Re: Install freefont and sharefont: How is it done?

2000-03-02 Thread Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero

>I have not tried the gimp-extra- fonts rpm as I have trouble downloading
>it at home and can do so tomorrow when I'm at achool.

IIRC that package is just freefonts + sharefont in one file.

>Food for thought  -- I can live with it like it is but for the future I'd
>like to have an rpm to install it.  How do I change that one little  thing
>in the script.  of Maybe make rpms for other fonts???

http://www.rpm.org/ for RPM, or /usr/doc/HOWTO for font things. In general,
put all new fonts in a dir, run the tools to creat fonts.dir (and the other
file I can not remember, I am away from Unix machines now), then change font
server or X server config. The important point is to not mix, so package
systems never find a dir with data that it did not put there.

>Second, I have been doing some reading on RedHat and they no longer use
>xset.  They use chkfontpath to add true type fonts to the font server

xset is a tool to change some X server things. You can use it too, I did.

>(it's no longer part of XF86).  That seemed to work fine, but freefont and
>sharefont are not tt are they  These true type fonts are then stored

Freefont and sharefont are Type 1, IIRC.

>in /usr/share/fonts/truetype and you use ttmkfdir after you've added more
>fonts.

TT is what MS Windows uses, for example. You can get loads of free TT fonts
from the net, and buy some quality CDs. Most of apps come with extra fonts,
for example maybe your printer CD includes some fonts, or a program that
includes more TT fonts. Type1 are harder to find.

GSR
 



Re: Install freefont and sharefont: How is it done?

2000-03-02 Thread Charles R. Tersteeg

Okay...

I found two rpms freefont and sharefont.  They install to
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 directory but the script it funs after
install is "type1inst -nogs -quiet".  On rh6.x and using the latest
type1inst, I had to use "type1inst -nogs -silent" to get it to work.  I
also had to hand modify /etc/X11/XF86Config, add tha above font path, and
xset fp rehash, for it to work.

I have not tried the gimp-extra- fonts rpm as I have trouble downloading
it at home and can do so tomorrow when I'm at achool.

Food for thought  -- I can live with it like it is but for the future I'd
like to have an rpm to install it.  How do I change that one little  thing
in the script.  of Maybe make rpms for other fonts???

Second, I have been doing some reading on RedHat and they no longer use
xset.  They use chkfontpath to add true type fonts to the font server
(it's no longer part of XF86).  That seemed to work fine, but freefont and
sharefont are not tt are they  These true type fonts are then stored
in /usr/share/fonts/truetype and you use ttmkfdir after you've added more
fonts.

http://www.redhat.com/knowledgebase/newfontsystem/solutions.html

Thanks for the help,
Chuck


"Charles R. Tersteeg" wrote:

> I've tried to install these without success.  I have to reinstall my 75
> dpi just to get my desktop back to normal..
>
> What would I have to as I have a rh6.2 system and the font rpms have an
> error in the script (which probably do no get them installed).
>
> Chuck



Re: Install freefont and sharefont: How is it done?

2000-03-02 Thread Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero

>> > that looks something like :\ (I can't remember what it actually looks
>> yes it does look that way and if I remember right it has :\unix ?
>yeah, that'd be the line i got rid of. anyone out there know what this
>actually does? or how?

It is a line that tells your X server to load the font from a X font server
in the local machine. RH includes a font server that allows to serve more
than one session at the same time (maybe no adventages for single user like
you, but I know it can be useful in some cases, multi or single user in a
single monitor, and really useful in machines that serve X displays to other
stations).


IMHO you are doing all the wrong way. If you do not know what a thing does,
you should read docs and ask docs first, then change it (at your own risk,
if you break it, you pay the new one and keep the pieces). What you have to
change for new fonts are the X font server config files. I can not remember
the name now, look under /etc/X11 (sorry, away from Linux machines).

BTW, I have read something about RH 6.2. IIRC that version is beta, not
final, so it can fail (and will, for sure). Now I understand why RH does not
announce the beta testing program any more, users want to test things even
if they can not handle basic problems. Do a favour to yourself (who ever is
using 6.2) and use final versions, not betas.


It is just my imagination, or nobody reads the HOWTOs, FAQs and other docs?
Well, at least, Linux (and other Unix) allow the typical solution in these
cases, reinstall. Also, reboot a pair of times every time you change a
setting. Maybe that way it will work as you expected, instead as you read in
the docs.



Leave the damn line as it was and change the RH font server config (that,
btw, allows True Type fonts). Then restart the font server. Maybe even give
a command to X server to rescan fonts (away from machine, can not test this,
but is a option, a must if you are using font dirs instead of server).

GSR
 



Re: Install freefont and sharefont: How is it done?

2000-03-02 Thread Erunantion

On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, happygirl wrote:

> On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, Erunantion wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, Charles R. Tersteeg wrote:
> > 
> > > I've tried to install these without success.  I have to reinstall my 75
> > > dpi just to get my desktop back to normal..
> > > 
> > > What would I have to as I have a rh6.2 system and the font rpms have an
> > > error in the script (which probably do no get them installed).
> > > 
> > > Chuck
> > 
> > Well, I would suggest messing around with XF86Setup of XF86Config. I know,
> > after RH6.1 the fonts directories are screwed up somehow, and I always
> > wanted the extra fonts (dragonwick especially). So here's what I did:
> > 
> > Hand-edit XF86Config & get rid of the line that has that wierd line in it
> > that looks something like :\ (I can't remember what it actually looks
> 
> yes it does look that way and if I remember right it has :\unix ?

yeah, that'd be the line i got rid of. anyone out there know what this
actually does? or how?

> Scarlett
> > Jonathan Erbe   aka Erunantion

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Re: Install freefont and sharefont: How is it done?

2000-03-02 Thread happygirl

On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, Erunantion wrote:

> On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, Charles R. Tersteeg wrote:
> 
> > I've tried to install these without success.  I have to reinstall my 75
> > dpi just to get my desktop back to normal..
> > 
> > What would I have to as I have a rh6.2 system and the font rpms have an
> > error in the script (which probably do no get them installed).
> > 
> > Chuck
> 
> Well, I would suggest messing around with XF86Setup of XF86Config. I know,
> after RH6.1 the fonts directories are screwed up somehow, and I always
> wanted the extra fonts (dragonwick especially). So here's what I did:
> 
> Hand-edit XF86Config & get rid of the line that has that wierd line in it
> that looks something like :\ (I can't remember what it actually looks

yes it does look that way and if I remember right it has :\unix ?

> like, but it's the odd line under FontPath that RH now uses to find
> fonts).
> 
> Again Hand-edit XF86Config & put in new FontPath lines for each directory
> where fonts you want to include hide. 
> (e.g. FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/freefont/"
>   FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/sharefont/")
> 
> If you can't get the new fonts to show up in gimp, try running XF86Setup
> to try to get it to create a new XF86Config file. After it does that,
> check the FontPath lines again, redoing the part above if necessary.
> 
> I know, this is a hard and round-about way of doing this. I had to do this
> a few times before it worked out. (And now I've lost a few fonts, namely
> zapf chancery, which I used for my webpage images.)
> 

I have lost quite a few myself mainly  new century schoolbook which does
work but it's not what came with rh6.1 

> If anyone out there knows a better way of doing this, please inform me of
> it. I'd love to get all my fonts back, as I need to add more images to my
> webpage, but I don't want to have to use another font.
> 

Scarlett


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Re: Install freefont and sharefont: How is it done?

2000-03-02 Thread Erunantion

On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, Charles R. Tersteeg wrote:

> I've tried to install these without success.  I have to reinstall my 75
> dpi just to get my desktop back to normal..
> 
> What would I have to as I have a rh6.2 system and the font rpms have an
> error in the script (which probably do no get them installed).
> 
> Chuck

Well, I would suggest messing around with XF86Setup of XF86Config. I know,
after RH6.1 the fonts directories are screwed up somehow, and I always
wanted the extra fonts (dragonwick especially). So here's what I did:

Hand-edit XF86Config & get rid of the line that has that wierd line in it
that looks something like :\ (I can't remember what it actually looks
like, but it's the odd line under FontPath that RH now uses to find
fonts).

Again Hand-edit XF86Config & put in new FontPath lines for each directory
where fonts you want to include hide. 
(e.g. FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/freefont/"
  FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/sharefont/")

If you can't get the new fonts to show up in gimp, try running XF86Setup
to try to get it to create a new XF86Config file. After it does that,
check the FontPath lines again, redoing the part above if necessary.

I know, this is a hard and round-about way of doing this. I had to do this
a few times before it worked out. (And now I've lost a few fonts, namely
zapf chancery, which I used for my webpage images.)

If anyone out there knows a better way of doing this, please inform me of
it. I'd love to get all my fonts back, as I need to add more images to my
webpage, but I don't want to have to use another font.

==
Jonathan Erbe   aka Erunantion
 The Annals of Middle-earth 
<"http://rush.baked.net/~jerbel/">
 E-mail me at <"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">
==



Re: Install freefont and sharefont: How is it done?

2000-03-02 Thread Wandered Inn

Jon Winters wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, Wandered Inn wrote:
> 
> > Jon Winters wrote:
> >
> > > I don't think there are any RPMs to install Xfstt but there are easy
> > > instructions to help you compile it:
> >
> > Actually there are, I got xfstt off of http://www.rpmfind.net/
> 
> How are those workin' for you?  I seem to remember I couldn't get them to
> work or something.  If they do indeed work then that is the way to go for
> a system that uses rpms.

They are working just fine.  FYI: RH 5.2, substantially upgraded,
running 2.2.14 kernel, GIMP 1.0.4.  GIMP was installed via rpm as well.

> 
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Re: Install freefont and sharefont: How is it done?

2000-03-02 Thread Jon Winters

On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, Wandered Inn wrote:

> Jon Winters wrote:
> 
> > I don't think there are any RPMs to install Xfstt but there are easy
> > instructions to help you compile it:
> 
> Actually there are, I got xfstt off of http://www.rpmfind.net/

How are those workin' for you?  I seem to remember I couldn't get them to
work or something.  If they do indeed work then that is the way to go for
a system that uses rpms.

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error in guash on Gimp 1.1.14

2000-03-02 Thread Jim Lane

i've just installed the latest level og the guash plug-in on GIMP 1.1.14. when i try 
to start up the plug-in i get the following message:

GLib-CRITICAL **: file ghash.c: line 99: assertion `hash_table != NULL' failed.

has anybody seen this before? or can anybody tell me what to do to fix this? the 
install ran without any apparent problems.

Jim Lane
Toronto Hydro



Re: GIF license policy

2000-03-02 Thread Hubert Froehlich

Kelly Lynn Martin wrote:

> On Thu, 02 Mar 2000 09:12:07 +0100, Hubert Froehlich
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> >We want to use gimp to transform cartographic vector data into GIF
> >images for use in the internet.  However, the rights on the GIF
> >format are owned by Compuserve.
>
> >AFAIK, any software *producing* GIF images (such as Photoshop and all

> >that stuff) has to pay license fees to Compuserve. The software user,

> >then , has got the right to produce ANY amount of images.
>
> I would strongly urge you to use some other format if you're concerned

> about the legal BS that surrounds the LZW patent.  PNG should will
work
> nicely for your purposes.
>
> Kelly

We jhave already considered about PNG, but:

We want to use Java Applets (Java 1.1.X, for use in standard browsers,
no Java 2)
accessing
GIF images and displaying them in a canvas - which is a standard Java
1.1
functionality.

Unfortunately, we have not managed so far to do the same for PNG. Our
Java
knowledge is not so
deep, but there seems to be no *simple* way in standard Java 1.1.
Developing tools
and classes
will exceed our abilites.

Or does anybody know about Java classes helping us with this problem?
(if
possible, not too complicated as our Java knowledge is not too deep...)

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Hubert

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Re: Install freefont and sharefont: How is it done?

2000-03-02 Thread Wandered Inn

Jon Winters wrote:

> I don't think there are any RPMs to install Xfstt but there are easy
> instructions to help you compile it:

Actually there are, I got xfstt off of http://www.rpmfind.net/

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Re: Install freefont and sharefont: How is it done?

2000-03-02 Thread Jon Winters


Hello,

Everything you ever wanted to know about adding fonts to a redhat system
can be found at the type euphoria site:

http://fonts.linuxpower.org/

They also have more than 1300 free fonts for you to download and install.

I don't think there are any RPMs to install Xfstt but there are easy
instructions to help you compile it:

http://fonts.linuxpower.org/help.php3?title=Help

Another alternative would be to switch to Corel LInux.  It comes with 250
fonts pre-installed.
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gDynText problem

2000-03-02 Thread Jakub Steiner

I am experiencing strange behaviour of the gDyntext plugin in the latest CVS
version of GIMP. It renders an empty layer, very small, but enlarges on the
amount of text. 

What made me not to report it a bug is that it works well on my other system
which has rather same setup. 

Has anyone experienced this behaviour and knows where the problem is?
I can't live without gDyntext one more day =) 

I used version 1.4.3 that ships with GIMP CVS and 1.4.4 from author's site. I
have a linux 2.2.12 kernel, xfree 3.3.5 running on an i686.

Jakub Steiner
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Install freefont and sharefont: How is it done?

2000-03-02 Thread Charles R. Tersteeg

I've tried to install these without success.  I have to reinstall my 75
dpi just to get my desktop back to normal..

What would I have to as I have a rh6.2 system and the font rpms have an
error in the script (which probably do no get them installed).

Chuck



Re: GIF license policy

2000-03-02 Thread Michael Schumacher

Am Thu, 2 Mar 2000 schrieb Hubert Froehlich:

> AFAIK, any software *producing* GIF images (such as  Photoshop and all
> that stuff) has to pay license fees to Compuserve. The software user,
> then , has got the right to produce ANY amount of images.
> 
> My question now:
> 
> a) Is this information correct?
> 
> b) what about GIMP? How is the license policy concerning GIMP? To be
> concrete: We want to produce really HUGE AMOUNTS of GIF ( GIF 89a , to
> be precise, NOT the OLD GIF87a ) pictures NOT AT ALL FOR PRIVATE USE and
> don't want ot get any license trouble ...
>
> c) If we need any extra license: where to get it and what does it cost?

a) and c) : Take a look at http://burnallgifs.org/

b) You can't use gimp to produce gifs if you don't live in a country where
   the LZW patent doesn't matter.

Michael



Re: GIF license policy

2000-03-02 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin

On Thu, 02 Mar 2000 09:12:07 +0100, Hubert Froehlich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
said:

>We want to use gimp to transform cartographic vector data into GIF
>images for use in the internet.  However, the rights on the GIF
>format are owned by Compuserve.

>AFAIK, any software *producing* GIF images (such as Photoshop and all
>that stuff) has to pay license fees to Compuserve. The software user,
>then , has got the right to produce ANY amount of images.

I would strongly urge you to use some other format if you're concerned 
about the legal BS that surrounds the LZW patent.  PNG should will work
nicely for your purposes.

Kelly



GIF license policy

2000-03-02 Thread Hubert Froehlich

We want to use gimp to transform cartographic vector data into GIF
images for use in the internet.
However, the rights on the GIF format  are owned by Compuserve.

AFAIK, any software *producing* GIF images (such as  Photoshop and all
that stuff) has to pay license fees to Compuserve. The software user,
then , has got the right to produce ANY amount of images.

My question now:

a) Is this information correct?

b) what about GIMP? How is the license policy concerning GIMP? To be
concrete: We want to produce really HUGE AMOUNTS of GIF ( GIF 89a , to
be precise, NOT the OLD GIF87a ) pictures NOT AT ALL FOR PRIVATE USE and
don't want ot get any license trouble ...

c) If we need any extra license: where to get it and what does it cost?

Thanks.

Hubert Fröhlich

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