Re: [Goanet]INSULT TO GOANS
An opinion should not differ because he/she/it/they are white,neither an opinion can change because of the colour, and where is it laid down that if one is white you are a superior race and above the law?if you say an x black person is a thief or y brown person did something wrong , would you charge them because of their colour being black and brown etc. and lay off your hands if it was a white colour having committed this act? Even though the writer questioned of a white woman and did not specify clear whether it is a white woman (foreigner) or a white woman (goan) my explanation goes to white woman (foreigner)--- Tariq Siddiqui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Tim de Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just jumping in . . . re: that a pic was published of a rajasthani/kashmiri with the background picture of one of the GOAN beach, . . . seems to have outraged some on this forum. Would the same sense of outrage be expressed if there was a white woman shown on the beach? Depends on what she is wearing. -Tariq __ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Yahoo! India Mobile: Download the latest polyphonic ringtones. Go to http://in.mobile.yahoo.com ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]INSULT TO GOANS and Cartier also shares the cake
Wanting to be Goans is a dream of many. Especially those from the sub continent. We have sikhs, kashmiris, mallus, andras, bengalis, biharis, bangla deshis, pakistanis, kannadigas, all wanting to be Goans. This effect has now taken toll on some design and jewellery companies such as Cartier the makers of famous time pieces. Their latest diamond and gem stone necklace is called Delices de Goa. Download Yahoo! Messenger now for a chance to win Live At Knebworth DVDs http://www.yahoo.co.uk/robbiewilliams ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]INSULT TO GOANS
Hi Tim, You are way off the mark! Rajastanis and Kasmiris are different from Goan dress culture, in the first place.As for the foreign women and or men of European origin; they visit Rajastan, Goa and Kasmir too, except for now it is a 'terrorist area'. So your hypothetical question makes no sense. You are just trying to find fault and argue without thinking! I think this line of talk should stop; and instead all our energies be directed to Lonely Planet tourist guide. which is showing so much 'Ignorance; Thaks Gabe for the enlightenment, in this affair. Nasci Caldeira. From: Tim de Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet]INSULT TO GOANS Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:07:02 -0500 Just jumping in . . . re: that a pic was published of a rajasthani/kashmiri with the background picture of one of the GOAN beach, . . . seems to have outraged some on this forum. Would the same sense of outrage be expressed if there was a white woman shown on the beach? Just curious. Tim de Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED] CANADA _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/viruspgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## _ E-mail just got a whole lot better. New ninemsn Premium. Click here http://ninemsn.com.au/premium/landing.asp ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet-news]04 DEC 2003: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS 04 Dec 2003 ARCHBISHOP EXHORTS FAITHFUL TO LEAD SIMPLE LIFE: Archbishop Raul Gonsalves said that a simple life in any sphere of activity we are engaged in, can serve as an example for others in the society. Delivering the homily at the Pontifical high mass on the occasion of the feast of St Francis Xavier at Old Goa yesterday, he recalled that the Diocesan Synod last year had decided to focus more on the society while also strengthening the Church. St Francis Xavier and our own son-of-the-soil Blessed Joseph Vaz had dedicated themselves to God and propagated his word but we can also contribute through an exemplary life of simplicity, he said. (GT) SPAIN KEEN ON CHARTERS: Tour operators from Spain have shown keen interest in starting charter flights to Goa. Confirming this, Secretary, Tourism, Mr R Raghuraman, said that at the World Travel Mart held in London last month where Goa had put up a separate pavilion, tour operators from Spain held preliminary discussions with the Goa delegation officials over the possibility of starting charter flights to Goa. A couple of them also made a mention that some tourists from Spain might come especially to pay homage to the 16th century Spaniard-St Francis Xavier-to whose missionary zeal Goa came to be called Rome of the East. (H) POLICE NEED TO USE INTELLIGENCE: The Chief Minister, Mr Manohar Parrikar, said that the state police would have to put the 'intelligence factor' into use besides their regular modus operandi, not only to put the dacoits involved in the dacoity cases witnessed by the State, behind bars, but also to prevent any such further incidents. (NT) MINERAL WATER PLANT DRAINS CRORES FROM GSCB: The Goa State Co-operative Bank Ltd, Panaji, has lodged a criminal complaint against the directors of M/s Spring Mineral Water Trading Pvt Ltd and four sureties for cheating the bank by not repaying the dues amounting to crores of rupees. (GT) WORLD COMPUTER DAY OBSERVED: Every one of us must be computer literate to face the challenges of the modern world, said the Information and Technology Minister, Fr Francisco D'Souza, while speaking at a function organised by the NIIT Computer Education Institute at Caritas Hall, St Inez, on the occasion of the World Computer Day on December 2. (NT) 'DISABILITY ACT' A DAMP SQUIB: A seminar on disability was of the opinion that the Persons with Disability Act 1995 meant to provide some relief to the handicapped was not doing justice to the afflicted apart from hardly being implemented. Advocate Shubhalaxmi Naik, trustee of Disha, said that not only does the Act have a number of lacunae, but it has also been legislated in a superficial manner, and is not being implemented. (GT) ARRESTED FOR MOLESTING A MINOR: Gaususab Bilaji, a native of Karnataka and residing at Corlim, was arrested at Corlim, near Old Goa, on charges of molesting a 7-year-old girl. (GT) TEENAGER COMMITS SUICIDE IN MARGAO: Nagesh Ramnath Shanker, a 19-year-old youth from old market, Margao, committed suicide by hanging himself from a rafter of his house on December 2. Nagesh had answered his Std X examination in October last and was gainfully employed. (GT) AYURVEDA TO BE TRIED IN ANTARCTICA: For the first time, Ayurveda, the traditional Indian medicine therapy, will be tested in the cold climate of Antarctica, on the expedition members. The expedition team, comprising of 55 members representing various institutes throughout the country, will leave Goa on December 9, under the leadership of Director, Geological Survey of India, Bangalore, S Jayaram. (GT) WOMAN SUSTAINS BURN INJURIES: Firoza Kadri (45), a resident of Sada in Vasco, sustained 50 per cent injuries when she got burnt in the kitchen while preparing meals. The cause of the mishap is not yet known. A 13-year-old girl got burn she had gone to answer nature's call at an open ground. The dry grass around the compound wall caught fire and engulfed the girl. (GT) GOAN PLANS GOLF ACADEMY: A Goan pro-turned coach is to start a gold academy in New Delhi to boost the game in India. Brandon de Souza, who represented India in tournaments abroad 17 times before a slipped disc made him leave the professional circuits and start his own golf management company, will be inaugurating his golf academy on the highway to Jaipur in February 2004. Souza is a Goan who grew up in Kanpur and Delhi and set his business base in Kolkata. (H) PATHWAY TO QUERIM BEACH BLOCKED: The scenic Querim beach below the famous Tiracol fort in Pernem is out of bounds for tourists and locals as one of the pathways leading to it has been sealed with a barbed wire. Sources in the area told GT that unidentified persons installed a barbed wire fence across the beach early Tuesday (December 2) morning causing inconvenience to both locals and tourists. (GT) KONKANI SANGEET MEET: The Konkani Sangeet and Natak Akademi will be holding a meeting at the conference hall of the Corporation of the City of Panjim, on
[Goanet]04 DEC 2003: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS 04 Dec 2003 ARCHBISHOP EXHORTS FAITHFUL TO LEAD SIMPLE LIFE: Archbishop Raul Gonsalves said that a simple life in any sphere of activity we are engaged in, can serve as an example for others in the society. Delivering the homily at the Pontifical high mass on the occasion of the feast of St Francis Xavier at Old Goa yesterday, he recalled that the Diocesan Synod last year had decided to focus more on the society while also strengthening the Church. St Francis Xavier and our own son-of-the-soil Blessed Joseph Vaz had dedicated themselves to God and propagated his word but we can also contribute through an exemplary life of simplicity, he said. (GT) SPAIN KEEN ON CHARTERS: Tour operators from Spain have shown keen interest in starting charter flights to Goa. Confirming this, Secretary, Tourism, Mr R Raghuraman, said that at the World Travel Mart held in London last month where Goa had put up a separate pavilion, tour operators from Spain held preliminary discussions with the Goa delegation officials over the possibility of starting charter flights to Goa. A couple of them also made a mention that some tourists from Spain might come especially to pay homage to the 16th century Spaniard-St Francis Xavier-to whose missionary zeal Goa came to be called Rome of the East. (H) POLICE NEED TO USE INTELLIGENCE: The Chief Minister, Mr Manohar Parrikar, said that the state police would have to put the 'intelligence factor' into use besides their regular modus operandi, not only to put the dacoits involved in the dacoity cases witnessed by the State, behind bars, but also to prevent any such further incidents. (NT) MINERAL WATER PLANT DRAINS CRORES FROM GSCB: The Goa State Co-operative Bank Ltd, Panaji, has lodged a criminal complaint against the directors of M/s Spring Mineral Water Trading Pvt Ltd and four sureties for cheating the bank by not repaying the dues amounting to crores of rupees. (GT) WORLD COMPUTER DAY OBSERVED: Every one of us must be computer literate to face the challenges of the modern world, said the Information and Technology Minister, Fr Francisco D'Souza, while speaking at a function organised by the NIIT Computer Education Institute at Caritas Hall, St Inez, on the occasion of the World Computer Day on December 2. (NT) 'DISABILITY ACT' A DAMP SQUIB: A seminar on disability was of the opinion that the Persons with Disability Act 1995 meant to provide some relief to the handicapped was not doing justice to the afflicted apart from hardly being implemented. Advocate Shubhalaxmi Naik, trustee of Disha, said that not only does the Act have a number of lacunae, but it has also been legislated in a superficial manner, and is not being implemented. (GT) ARRESTED FOR MOLESTING A MINOR: Gaususab Bilaji, a native of Karnataka and residing at Corlim, was arrested at Corlim, near Old Goa, on charges of molesting a 7-year-old girl. (GT) TEENAGER COMMITS SUICIDE IN MARGAO: Nagesh Ramnath Shanker, a 19-year-old youth from old market, Margao, committed suicide by hanging himself from a rafter of his house on December 2. Nagesh had answered his Std X examination in October last and was gainfully employed. (GT) AYURVEDA TO BE TRIED IN ANTARCTICA: For the first time, Ayurveda, the traditional Indian medicine therapy, will be tested in the cold climate of Antarctica, on the expedition members. The expedition team, comprising of 55 members representing various institutes throughout the country, will leave Goa on December 9, under the leadership of Director, Geological Survey of India, Bangalore, S Jayaram. (GT) WOMAN SUSTAINS BURN INJURIES: Firoza Kadri (45), a resident of Sada in Vasco, sustained 50 per cent injuries when she got burnt in the kitchen while preparing meals. The cause of the mishap is not yet known. A 13-year-old girl got burn she had gone to answer nature's call at an open ground. The dry grass around the compound wall caught fire and engulfed the girl. (GT) GOAN PLANS GOLF ACADEMY: A Goan pro-turned coach is to start a gold academy in New Delhi to boost the game in India. Brandon de Souza, who represented India in tournaments abroad 17 times before a slipped disc made him leave the professional circuits and start his own golf management company, will be inaugurating his golf academy on the highway to Jaipur in February 2004. Souza is a Goan who grew up in Kanpur and Delhi and set his business base in Kolkata. (H) PATHWAY TO QUERIM BEACH BLOCKED: The scenic Querim beach below the famous Tiracol fort in Pernem is out of bounds for tourists and locals as one of the pathways leading to it has been sealed with a barbed wire. Sources in the area told GT that unidentified persons installed a barbed wire fence across the beach early Tuesday (December 2) morning causing inconvenience to both locals and tourists. (GT) KONKANI SANGEET MEET: The Konkani Sangeet and Natak Akademi will be holding a meeting at the conference hall of the Corporation of the City of Panjim, on
[Goanet]St. Xavier Feast marked with polyglot religious ceremony in Macau
This year's St. Francis Xavier feast was celebrated with the mass in three languages, Concani, Portugues and English. Besides the celebrants had a multi cultural dimension being priests from Timor, Malta, Spain and Goa. A cross section of the Macau populace were present at the mass and later at the get together in a culturally rich, diversified and peaceful manner. Once again Padre Urbano Fernandes from the Diocese of Goa was at the helm of this years events. Download Yahoo! Messenger now for a chance to win Live At Knebworth DVDs http://www.yahoo.co.uk/robbiewilliams ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet] (no subject)
Sanjay, Are you checking this mail. Kris --- Sanjay Alberto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Friends! Greetings from Goa! Here's wishing you all VIVA CARNAVAL!!! guess its the right start to the mood of celebrations with India's huge victory against Pakistan... Just uploaded some pictures of the Carnival Floats held in panjim this afternoon..to have a view at them please log on to my picture website http://photos.yahoo.com/sanjay_alberto and select the album VIVA CARNIVAL have a great weekend cheers sanjay == The more you learn, the more you know, The more you know, the more you forget, The more you forget, the less you know, So.why learn = Regards Kris 1 941 755 4596 (H) ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Ayurveda
While we have this discussion about Ayurveda and whether it has been scientifically proven to be effective, I believe in the old saying The proof of the pudding is in the eating. I can personally vouch for the efficacy of Ayurveda, as the doctor who treats my family, was trained in the Ayurvedic medical discipline. Whatever the ailment, her treatment has been very effective. I am very impressed that in Ayurveda the doctor not only treats the symptoms but seeks and attempts to treat the root cause of the ailment. I am glad that in Goa, we have the choice of Allopathic (Western), Ayurvedic, or Homeopathic medical treatment. Vivian A. D'Souza ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Re: Sukhest Natalam
On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:50:48 + (GMT), Teotonio R. de Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some days back Filomena Giese wanted to know how one would wish happy Christmas in Konkani. I have not been able to accompany the replies, and if one / many related to her wish had appeared. All languages have loan words, and Goans would do well to retain some words that many generations have utilized in Goa. *Natal / Natalam* is a household word for Goans, both Christians and non-Christians. Why not say * tumkam sukhest natalam anvddetam*, or simply *sukhest natalam*, the same way we hear Goans sharing *natalancho kunsvar*?sharing *natalancho kunsvar*? December 3, 2003 - Happy Feast of St. Francis Xavier !! ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Re: Ayurveda and Science
On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:06:27 + (GMT), Teotonio R. de Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wish to know what Santosh has to say about some recent western thinkers about the limits of scientific logic and validation. Harvard-based Portuguese neuro-scientist has come out in recent times with questionings of Descartes' foundations of scientific knowledge! Curiously, his first book that made waves was entitled the Error of Descartes. His contention is that scientific approach is only one way of understanding nature adequately. Damasio gives equal importance to neural functionings and emotions in the acquisition of all knowledge. To what extent personal / group interest is not the starting point of scientific process? And what about the ethical implications and damning consequences of such interest based science? To what extent the science-based modernity and rationality have fulfilled or made a mockery of their promises of a better world for the great majority of the humankind after five centuries of its promises of boon? I wish some of these issues could be discussed against the background of the interesting interview with the Harvard brain and a review of his first book which may be read at the following links: http://hcs.harvard.edu/~husn/BRAIN/vol8-spring2001/damasio.htm or http://www.thymos.com/mind/damasio2.html Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 18:43:41 - From: Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Filomena: As usual, I am merely trying to state what I understand to be the modern scientific view about research and reliability of treatments. As I may have mentioned to you before, I am not interested in the contest between the east and the west. When I talk about research in relation to determining the efficacy and reliability of a December 3, 2003 - Happy Feast of St. Francis Xavier !! ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]RE: St. Francis Xavier Goa Inquisition
On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 05:26:04 +, mario rodrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cheers Floriano To all Goans Happy Feast December 3, 2003 - Happy Feast of St. Francis Xavier !! ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Fernando (Ferdy) Mendes R.I.P.
On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 00:58:07 -0500, Brendan Abreu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Attached is a thank you from the family of late Fernando (Ferdy) Mendes. Donations/contributions can be made in his memory at: The Heart And Stroke Foundation Of Ontario 1450 Midland Avenue, Suite 202 Scarborough, Ontario M1P 4Z8, CANADA Telephone (416) 285-7333 Fax (416) 285-8574 December 3, 2003 - Happy Feast of St. Francis Xavier !! ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]ADIM ani ATAM - MANDO!
Adim mog kornaram Vhoddlea Goeam voitalint Sam Francis Saibachea novenank, festak, tachi kudd umaum-ak ugoddta tednam ani tachea mukar eka-mekacho pattlau korunk jurar zatalint, ani to jurament sareporim palltalint. Atamchim mog kornaram, choltam-boumtannam jurament ditat ani kainch num korun te moddtat! Angasor maka ugddas eta eka Manddeacho zantun mog kornaram Vhoddlea Goeam jurar zalelim Saibacho umaum guetanam. To manddo zaun assa osso: BHAR NIDECHO Gupit ami podleaum mhun mogantu Sogott zannant boball amchea ganvantu Gupit ami podleaum mhun mogantu Sogott zannant boball amchea ganvantu Atam bodolxi mhun mojer aila akantu Kallzan rigon khontu Atam bodolxi mhun mojer aila akantu Kallzan rigon khontu Moga he modianimcho Papacho bhar nidecho Johny tum sodanch guttacho Ani surngar fuddaracho Moga he modianimcho Papacho bhar nidecho Johny tum sodanch guttacho Ani surngar fuddaracho Bangarachi mudi ghatleai botaku Mottem kankonn korunk lailaim xetiku Bangarachi mudi ghatleai botaku Mottem kankonn korunk lailaim xetiku Pain tujea chitti bond keleot sangon padriku Khonti heo kallzaku Pain tujea chitti bond keleot sangon padriku Khonti heo kallzaku Moga he modianimcho Papacho bhar nidecho Johny tum sodanch guttacho Ani surngar fuddaracho Moga he modianimcho Papacho bhar nidecho Johny tum sodanch guttacho Ani surngar fuddaracho Vhoddlea Goeam saibak ugoddtannam Sangatan boumlim pursaum choltannam Vhoddlea Goeam saibak ugoddtannam Sangatan boumlim pursaum choltannam Roddon jurar zalelim umaum guetannam Hem ekloch Goemcho Saib zannam Roddon jurar zalelim umaum guetannam Hem ekloch Goemcho Saib zannam Moga he modianimcho Papacho bhar nidecho Johny tum sodanch guttacho Ani surngar fuddaracho Moga he modianimcho Papacho bhar nidecho Johny tum sodanch guttacho Ani surngar fuddaracho Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Dhahran, KSA _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
RE: [Goanet]03 DEC 2003: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
I think Montigne is a charter yacht. For more details on that Yacht, please go to http://www.luxuryachts.net/yacht.asp?y=montigne or www.mymontigne.com or http://powerandmotoryacht.about.com/megayachts/1103top100/index1.html Nagesh Bhatcar [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Joel D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] MYSTERIOUS AMERICAN BILLIONAIRE: He owns a 152-foot Feadship M/Y Montigne, built 18 years ago at a cost of approximately $16 million, presently carries a price tag of $90 million. The yearly maintenance costs tune to $1 million. And it has the foolswing amenities to boot: Five luxury cabins, Jacuzzi, Baccarat lead crystal, Two Harley Davidsons, Waters skis, gymnasium Scuba, snorkel gear Montigne boasts to having hosted the likes of Hollywood's top actors-Mel Gibson and his wife Robbin as well as Priscilla Presley. Not a single soul barring the sole exception of the captain of the Feadship is aware of this mysterious personality. The unknown billionaire is presently on a honeymoon and was slated to fly to Mumbai via Karachi yesterday. The yacht, currently docked at Mumbai, will be on a visit to Goa for a day. (GT) _ Dont worry if your Inbox will max out while you are enjoying the holidays. Get MSN Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Christmas in Goa...........
Vivian, Thanks for the beautiful e-mail about Christmas in Goa. My grand-niece, Simone Britto, lives in Seattle. She has to tell the class about Christmas in Goa. Your e-mail is the perfect answer. Yes! do kindly send me digital pictures of stars and grottoes and other Christmas decor in Goa. Her class would love it! Meanwhile, Have a wonderful Christmas season in Goa, lucky you. Filomena --- Vivian D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Filomena Geise asked on behalf of her grandniece, how Christmas is celebrated in Goa. Having lived in the USA for over 3 decades, and now living in Goa, I find Christmas quite and refreshingly different in Goa. Christmas in Goa is more Christ-centered. Children love to make christmas grottos in their house. It is delightful to see how creative the little children are in decorating their grottoes. There is a great reverence for the Christ child. One does not see Christmas trees in Goa, except at places like 5-star hotels which put up synthetic trees all decorated and lighted up. Instead of Christmas trees lighted stars are hung on balconies, signifying the star that led the Magi to Bethlehem and Christ's birth place in the manger. In our younger days we made stars(some still do) with strips of bamboo, and stretched white paper over the star, and put a light in the star and hung it from our balconies. Nowadays one can buy all kinds of readymade stars that provide a colorful display, when a light bulb is placed inside and it is hung out on the balcony. Many homes put up strings of colored lights, but not as extensively as I used to see in the USA. The Christmas spirit comes late to Goa. Unlike the US and England where the stores and Malls are decorated with Christmas decorations as early as October, here one does not see many decorations until mid-December. One does not feel the pressure to give everyone a gift at Christmas, except perhaps a little toy to the young ones in one's own family. Instead, we bake and fry and stir all kinds of goodies, like Neuris, Kalkals, Bebinca, Dodol, etc. We send plates of goodies to our Hindu neighbors who unfailingly had sent us goodies for Ganesh and Diwali which precedes Christmas by a couple of months. Thank God we do not have the January blues that often result from over-spending for Gifts at Christmas ! People visit each other at Christmas. Of course it is quite warm during the day, but when one attends the Midnight mass, it is cool, as nights and early mornings are quite cool in December. On Christmas day itself, at our church in Socorro, the Catholic Youth Group organizes a party/sports day in the afternoon, with all kinds of party games, usually followed by Bingo. An enjoyable time is had by all. Sometimes Father Christmas (as Santa Claus is called here), makes his appearance. Filomena, I am so glad that your grand niece is thinking of Goa and how Christmas is celebrated here. If you need any more information or digital pictures, feel free to send me a private E-Mail. Vivian A. D'Souza ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]True colours ?
Navhind Times on the Web: GoaThe Congress spokesman seems to be showing the true colours of the 'suit case' political set up in Goa...and the colours definitely do not include 'green'. Is it not cheeky for Jitendra[ who operated the Sky Pak farm in Pernem] to be asking the Goa Govt. to rehabilitate those who have raped virgin forests for personal wealth? Should the abettors who pimped for these rapists and provided transport be rehabilitated at Govt cost? In my opinion, they deserved to be hanged! Hats off to the present regime for issuing notices for stoppage of mining in the sanctuary area. Jitendra does not want an educational estate in Pernem. Rape of forests in Sanguem and Sattari is okay...continuity with the colonial rule. Wah! Chota sarkar of the Visconde de Pernem. Salazar would be proud of your loyalty to his double standards. Quote. Wednesday, December 3, 2003 Take measures to revert decision to close mines in notified areas: Congress Party. NT Staff Reporter Panaji Dec 2: Expressing distress at the observations and subsequent decisions of the high-powered committee appointed by the Supreme Court to close down all mines in the notified areas of Mhadei and Netravali regions, the Congress party today demanded that the state government take all measures to revert the decision to close the mines. The Congress spokesman, Mr Jeetendra Deshprabhu told a press conference that closure of the mines would cause immense hardships - both social and economic - to over 2,000 persons and many families who are dependent on the continuous operations of the mines. Many families have invested huge amounts by taking loans from financial institutions to buy trucks and other earth-moving equipment. The closure of the mines will be financially debilating to these people, Mr Deshprabhu said. Mr Deshprabhu said the Congress position, vis-a-vis the mines-closure issue, was arrived at today afternoon at a meeting of the Congress Legislature party (CLP) presided by the Leader of the Opposition, Mr Pratapsingh Rane. The government should take all steps to revert the decision by approaching the Supreme Court in the matter of the public interest litigation, which ironically has gone against the interest of the public, Mr Deshprabhu said. In the meantime, the government must pay the affected persons a subsistence allowance and to those who have taken loans, the government must waive the interest component till such time the decision to close the mines is reversed, he said. Mr Deshprabhu said the government must advise all the concerned banks to stop recovery proceedings till the matter is legally resolved and that it should examine the possibility of rehabilitating the affected persons in other areas to minimise their hardships caused by the mines-closure. The government must note with concern that these mines have been in operation since pre-liberation and their abrupt closure will adversely affect the revenue of the state as well as its export earnings, Mr Deshprabhu said. Navhind Times on the Web. Unquote. Viva Goa. Miguel ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]INSULT TO GOANS
--- Tim de Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just jumping in . . . re: that a pic was published of a rajasthani/kashmiri with the background picture of one of the GOAN beach, . . . seems to have outraged some on this forum. Would the same sense of outrage be expressed if there was a white woman shown on the beach? Depends on what she is wearing. -Tariq __ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]CONGRATULATIONS
OO CONGRATULATIONS to Mario Alvares as Goenkar.com celebrates its second anniversary ( 3rd Dec - Feast of SFX) Do visit the revamped , Goenkar website at http://goa.goenkar.com, I am sure it has plenty to excite a POSITIVE Goan mind . I am also pleased to have been associated with Goenkar.com for the past two years , thankful for the support Mario extended to us ,thankful for his designing the WORLD GOA DAY site too. The website has made a BIG difference to us in our efforts in spreading the idea of WORLD GOA DAY. Thank you Mario for your support and for your involvement. rene barreto www.goaday.com . OO ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]INSULT TO GOANS
Just jumping in . . . re: that a pic was published of a rajasthani/kashmiri with the background picture of one of the GOAN beach, . . . seems to have outraged some on this forum. Would the same sense of outrage be expressed if there was a white woman shown on the beach? Just curious. Tim de Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED] CANADA _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/viruspgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]INSULT TO GOANS
From: vivek araujo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks eddie for your interest in my letter, look forward for some more questions. Dear Vivek, You have me well truly beaten! It is not fruitful to pursue discussion with someone with such obviously ingrained prejudices and hypocrisy. Cheers Eddie ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Re: [Goanet-news]03 DEC 2003: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
Hi Joel, Mario here from Goenkar.com We have just revamped and relaunched our site. Do take a look! -Mario -- Mario Alvares - Managing Director Alvares Infotec Pvt. Ltd. - http://www.alvares.info 711/23, Porvorim, Goa - 403501, India Tel: 8322.414817, 9822.143887 ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Re: Ayurveda
In a message dated 12/3/2003 7:50:22 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I do not intend to challenge the knowledge and scholarship of Santosh but can't help mentioning that he sounds profoundly naive. Please feel free to challenge both. I agree with you that I am profoundly naive. But it would be a great help if you demonstrate my naivete by giving us evidence in support of a most researched and reliable ayurvedic treatment against a specific disease. What he apparently means by scientific validation and critical analysis are US FDA certification. No. That is not what I mean. Please read my last two posts to find out what I mean. None of the points raised by Filomena makes any sense to him because he apparently shares the tunnel vision of his bosses in the US, for whom accomplishments from outside the Western world are just voodoo, or at best pseudo-science. I work in an institution and a field of activity in which we practice freedom of thought. I have no bosses. My thoughts are my own. I am not interested in petty politics of East versus the West. does it occur to Santosh that there are many things in this whole wide world -- in the realm of science, health and medicine -- to which the Western critical analysts have no clue at all? I would love to find out what these things are, and if they have passed muster with all the Eastern critical analysts, of whom there are many, and thankfully for genuine Science. Cheers, Santosh ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Boa Fest!!!
Soglea Goemkaranc aiz [03/12] Boa Fest Goenchea saiban amchear sodanch aple besaum galchem ani amchea Goa shararc samballun dovorche mhunn magtam. Amcho mog ani ekvot Goa-nettacher osot porzolltolo mhunn ast ballgita ani borvanxean rauta. Mog sodans ascho. Viva M Pinto, Kingdom of Bahrain. _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]ayurveda
--- Radhakrishnan Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What he apparently means by scientific validation and critical analysis are US FDA certification. None of the points raised by Filomena makes any sense to him because he apparently shares the tunnel vision of his bosses in the US, for whom accomplishments from outside the Western world are just voodoo, or at best pseudo-science. There is a very simple solution to all this. Indian Universities or the CSIR can undertake a study where a single Ayurvedic treatment is administered to a study group and the results are published in a scientific journal. The problems as usual is, it is the Ayurvedic doctors who do not prefer such recognition. PBS did attempt to do explore the value of these treatments, and their website contains parts of that show: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/altmed/ While lapping up the unpalatable (and potentially dangerous) concoctions dished out as food supplements by some US companies, who market them to Third World countries including India at exorbitant prices, does it occur to Santosh that there are many things in this whole wide world -- in the realm of science, health and medicine -- to which the Western critical analysts have no clue at all? I would agree with that. However, such claims are such claims. Backed not by facts, but by intuition. -Tariq __ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Christmas in Goa...........
Filomena Geise asked on behalf of her grandniece, how Christmas is celebrated in Goa. Having lived in the USA for over 3 decades, and now living in Goa, I find Christmas quite and refreshingly different in Goa. Christmas in Goa is more Christ-centered. Children love to make christmas grottos in their house. It is delightful to see how creative the little children are in decorating their grottoes. There is a great reverence for the Christ child. One does not see Christmas trees in Goa, except at places like 5-star hotels which put up synthetic trees all decorated and lighted up. Instead of Christmas trees lighted stars are hung on balconies, signifying the star that led the Magi to Bethlehem and Christ's birth place in the manger. In our younger days we made stars(some still do) with strips of bamboo, and stretched white paper over the star, and put a light in the star and hung it from our balconies. Nowadays one can buy all kinds of readymade stars that provide a colorful display, when a light bulb is placed inside and it is hung out on the balcony. Many homes put up strings of colored lights, but not as extensively as I used to see in the USA. The Christmas spirit comes late to Goa. Unlike the US and England where the stores and Malls are decorated with Christmas decorations as early as October, here one does not see many decorations until mid-December. One does not feel the pressure to give everyone a gift at Christmas, except perhaps a little toy to the young ones in one's own family. Instead, we bake and fry and stir all kinds of goodies, like Neuris, Kalkals, Bebinca, Dodol, etc. We send plates of goodies to our Hindu neighbors who unfailingly had sent us goodies for Ganesh and Diwali which precedes Christmas by a couple of months. Thank God we do not have the January blues that often result from over-spending for Gifts at Christmas ! People visit each other at Christmas. Of course it is quite warm during the day, but when one attends the Midnight mass, it is cool, as nights and early mornings are quite cool in December. On Christmas day itself, at our church in Socorro, the Catholic Youth Group organizes a party/sports day in the afternoon, with all kinds of party games, usually followed by Bingo. An enjoyable time is had by all. Sometimes Father Christmas (as Santa Claus is called here), makes his appearance. Filomena, I am so glad that your grand niece is thinking of Goa and how Christmas is celebrated here. If you need any more information or digital pictures, feel free to send me a private E-Mail. Vivian A. D'Souza ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Believe It or Not!
Did you know that Anjuna shot to world fame in the late sixties because of Full Moon Night beach parties and Flea Market at Danddo? These activities were hosted by locals in coordination with foreigners/hippies. While Full Moon Night beach parties are quire rare these days, Flea Market continues to take place at Danddo on Wednesdays. People start arriving in Anjuna for the market as early as 06:00 a.m. and leave the place by late evening. The traffic on Anjuna roads on Wednesdays is simply unimaginable; we now need better/broader roads to accommodate such type of heavy traffic. Getting back to the market, there is a big difference between previously held Flea Market and the one today. Previously, the departing foreigners disposed of their foreign made belongings; nowadays, the market is filled with LOMANNIS and one mostly finds stuff from Rajasthan, Kashmir, Nepal, etc., instead of foreign made. To make matters worse, these Lomanni vendors are now photographed and presented on magazines as locals (Anjunians?! Anjuna Flea Market was so famous in those days that once when my brother and I visited the Opera House area (famous for car spare parts) in Bombay in 1976, we were stunned to find second hand, foreign made goods from Anjuna Flea Market on sale at two shops. When asked how they managed to get them, the owner told us that he often attended the Flea Market. He further told us that their staff in New Delhi branches also visited the market from time to time. P.S. Per public suggestion, I have changed the subject from Did you know that . to Believe it or not! Moi-mogan Domnic Fernandes Dhahran, KSA _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]How Goans say.....the darndest things!
Dear Ariosto, Whether you say it one way or the other, as long as you say it in Konkani ...you will have objections from some right honourable persons on goanet who are either not 'Goans' or not Konkani speaking or[ as often is the case] both. May be they need to learn Aramaic or Greek or Latin.for Jesus was not born when English was a common language of the imperialists/colonialists. Viva Konkani. Aiz Goemchea saibachea porbeche disamchim porbim tumkam soggleank jenkam konkani somzota. Je somzona tenkam kitem monnea. Happy SFX feast. What is sauce for the gander,is not... ;-) .Eat sanna-vodde, if in Goa. From: Ariosto J. Coelho, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'Filomena Giese' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Goanet]How Goans say Merry Christmas Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:55:52 -0800 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Filomena and all Netters, Often times, I've used Kuxalbhorit Krist Joyontichim Porbim instead of Kuxalbhorit Natalamchim Porbim when I was in Sulcorna(1978-87). Ariosto http://www.spiritualdirection.org/Glo03Winter.htm Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:24:09 -0800 (PST) From: Filomena Giese [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Goanet]How Goans say Merry Christmas To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Ariosto. This is for a first-grader. Please translate for her. Filomena --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.543 / Virus Database: 337 - Release Date: 11/21/2003 ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]03 DEC 2003: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS 03 Dec 2003 WE GREET all Goanetters on the occasion of the Feast of ST FRANCIS XAVIER. GOA CELEBRATES FEAST OF GOEMCHO SAIB: Since very early in the morning today all the traffic in Goa seemed to be moving towards Old Goa where the feast of St Francis Xavier was celebrated with traditional fervour. Archbishop Patriarch Raul Gonsalves presided over the High Mass which began at 10.30 am. In his homily Archbishop Gonsalves said that we have to change life for the better, modeled on the life of St Francis Xavier, who shunned worldly pleasures to serve God and society. Blasco Colaco, Apostolic Nuncio in South Africa, and Archbishop Stanislaus Fernandes of Gandhinagar, also officiated at the High Mass, concelebrated by several priests. There were masses since 4 am in the morning at the vast pandal erected in the compound of the Basilica of Bom Jesus. The pandal was packed for every mass. All along the way to Old Goa, people were seen coming on foot, singing and praising the Lord. Others came for the last few novenas and were housed in the corridor of the Basilica. Around 700 pilgrims arrived yesterday afternoon from Kolhapur and Belgaum, on foot, led by Santaji Guru, who has been making the pilgrimage on foot since the lat 23 years. KOLHAPUR PILGRIMS AT OLD GOA: A devout follower of St Francis Xavier, the middle-aged Samtaji Guru of Kolhapur has been a regular pilgrim to Old Goa for the past 23 years, along with 700-odd pilgrims, who come on foot from Belgaum and Kolhapur. They left Kolhapur on November 28 and reached Old Goa exactly at 12 noon on December 2, praying and singing in praise of the Lord and St Francis Xavier. As soon as the pilgrims reached Old Goa, they were led for an Eucharistic celebration in the pandal by the 10 priests, who accompanied them during their pilgrimage. (H) MORE ABOUT ST FRANCIS XAVIER at http://www.goacom.com/culture/religion/stfrancis/index.html KHALAP APPLIES FOR ANTICIPATORY BAIL: Former chairman of Mapusa Urban Co-operative Bank, Adv Ramakant Khalap, yesterday applied for anticipatory bail fearing his arrest in connection with two new bank scam cases filed against him recently. MUCB recovery officers had filed cases against the former law minister, and MUCB director and defaulters of the bank for swindling Rs.85 lakh. In all, seven cases have been recorded against the above accused by the crime branch of the Goa Police. (GT) NEED FOR INTENSIVE PATROLLING: The Porvorim Residents Welfare Association condemned the alarming and daring dacoity at the residence of orthopaedic surgeon Dr Deep Bhandare in Krantinagar near the vicinity of the Porvorim Police Station, have demand that the culprits be brought to task. Their press note said that there is an urgent need of intensive night foot and mobile patrolling. (H) COPS SUSPECT KOCHAR TRIBESMEN: After analyzing the modus operandi adopted by the dacoits, the Goa Police now suspect the involvement of 'Stuart Puram' or 'Kochar' tribesmen from Andhra Pradesh in the dacoity reported at Kranti Nagar, Porvorim, in the wee hours of Monday. (NT) FOREST OFFICIALS SUSPENDED: The Forest department yesterday suspended four of its personnel-Pundalik Virnodker, Ducklo Dhargalkaer, Laximan Kasker and Ayub H Khan--from the Valpoi Forest range for dereliction of duties and inefficiency. (H) MARGAO YOUTH COMMITS SUICIDE: A 19-year-old student, Nagesh Shanke, residing at Old Market, Margao, committed suicide yesterday by himself with a rope. He was working as a part-time cashier in a saloon. (NT) CM RELEASES GTM REPORT: Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar released the report of the Goa Tourism Meet held in Goa at a city hotel recently. (GT) SECURITY RETHINK FOR RAJ BHAVAN? Despite official claims to the contrary, last weekend's impersonation incident has indeed exposed a chink in Raj Bhavan's protocol and security armour. The fact remains that two complete strangers, Pradeep K Rai and his accomplice Vijay Sharma, spent the whole of Saturday (Nov 29) evening and night at the Raj Bhavan as honoured guests claiming to be relatives of the Chief Justice of India, BN Khare. (H) THREE HURT: Three students-Glenda Fernandes of Mahalwada, Glen Coutinho and Jovella Coutinho, from Chiplem, and their teacher Efresinha Barreto of Catebaga, were injured when a mini-bus carrying them went of the road at Catebaga-Galgibaba on December 1. The driver lost control of the vehicle and it fell on one side of the road. (GT) NRI GOA CENTRE TEAM FOR GULF: A delegation of representatives of the NRI Goa Facilitation Centre are to visit Gulf countries in the first week of December, to establish direct contact with the Goan Diaspora living in the Gulf countries and to acquaint them with activities of the centre. The delegation will consist of Chandrakant Keni, Swapnil Naik, Pramod Shetye and Antonio Correia Afonso. (H) TO HONOUR 'FORGOTTEN' FREEDOM FIGHTERS: For the first time, Goa is to honour freedom fighters from neighbouring States who
[Goanet]Boas Festas from Kuwait-Goa Tiatristanchi Sonvstha (KGTS)
Kuwait-Goa Tiatristanchi Sonvstha (KGTS) tumcam soggleank Boas Festas ani Sorginchea Devachem bhesanvam ontreaktat. Kuwait-Goa Tiatristanchi Sonvstha (KGTS) proudly presents their maiden mega venture, a novel musical bonanza entitled TIATR ANI TIATRIST on February 20, 2004 at Hawally Hall, Kuwait. Be a witness the biggest show in Kuwait. Watch out for further details . _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]INSULT TO GOANS
Dear Eddie, I do have a reason to believe that a pic was published of a rajasthani/kashmiri with the background picture of one of the GOAN beach, for a promotional cause as it would just not appear the sake of it, there must be a reason for it, it with that implication I still stand by what I say, never sat on a judgment chair only expressed my opinion which i am still expressing. No reason to duck your questions as they are quiet transparent to answer . Answers:= 1. Never seen a goan picture in Uganda on the same context as that of Abu Dhabi hence, premature to reply when time comes it can be replied. 2. Since these letter is addressed to me personally, replying to your personally, the issue right from inception was of the dress and not of person/s so please clarify when you say foreign tourist's dress or the Foreign tourist's as a group.As you rightly stressed on the dress in your third and fourth question. 3.The goan attire, which one if you ask me, shall be much obliged if you can mention to me which are the goan attires and I shall express my opinion of them and not a judgement. 4. The kashmiris and rajasthanis women and their attire are features of the so called markets and subject to popular photographs as mentioned by you , but cannot be features of Goan Tourism at large neither popular photographs for goa's billboards nor advertisements, they just happen to be shopping items since their attire are on sale in shops on those beaches. As when did i last go to goa, i happen to go there everyyear and even if i do not fly down through various sources of information I do get toknow. 5. Lastly eddie again you have got it wrong, there has been a mention that because of xyz community presence in goa, goa has become cheap or it is an insult to goans so why mince words and cofuse further, stick to the subject matter. Thanks eddie for your interest in my letter, look forward for some more questions. Nice day. Vivek - -- Eddie Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Vivek, So you have no reason to believe that the photograph was an advertisement. You do not know the context of it but are prepared to sit in judgment. That is your right. Thanks for the offer to answer my questions so I repeat the ones you so ungraciously ducked: 1. Since you have no idea of UAE conditions, do published pictures of Goans in Uganda give a cheap image of the local population and insult them? 2. Pictures of foreign tourists in Goa are commonly published to promote Goa. Are such photos acceptable? 3. The question remains - what type of attire do you think should represent Goa? 4. When did you last visit Goa? Are you aware that the Rajastani and Kashmiri women are a feature of the Anjuna and Mapusa markets and are very popular subjects for photographs? 5. Does your presence in Uganda demean and insult the local people? Cheers, Eddie - Original Message - From: vivek araujo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 8:12 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet]INSULT TO GOANS Dear Mr. Eddie Fernandes, Mr. Ivor did fwd.a pic. of a rajasthani , there is no article attached to it (let me be frank with you)and who sponsored it is difficult for me to find out, neither did i mention about the article I still emphasise on the photograph, why a rajasthani why not a Goan, how about a Goan picture in Bihar/rajasthan ? Just a thought. About your responses. 1.Pictures of Goans in UAE would depend how the Goans in UAE accept it and adjust with it,I would not know if anytime in the middleast these countries did require pictures of Goans to promote themselves for various reasons.if someone can explain the said advert, then the problem can be sorted out in a simple way. 2. Hippies did cause a lot damage to goa and our beaches, how , is known to all but after a lot of resistance by the goans it was stopped as the word did go round that goan beaches those days due to influx of hippies in big numbers was a den of drugs and nudism.As for foreign tourists publishing their photos for promotion of tourism or promoting their attire are two different subjects. 3. I cannot speak for others, every occassion has a dress code, like in an african continent the africans would not want to promote their attire and tourism on a foreign face, as that attire suits them better, and their proud of it and so are the foreigneirs,who like keep a foreign face wearing the african costume and on the other side the african face with african costume and advertise, see which one sells fast. Mr. Eddie should you have any other query for me please let me know. = --- Eddie Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Goanet]Konkani stories
Dear Mr. Fernandes, Thank you for writing in Konkani/concani! I reside in the North of India where there are very few Goans - I read your articles aloud( as I have to hear what I read to understand it!) and my children also get exposed to Konkani/Concani as a result! Keep writing - our mai bhas must live on - there are things said in Konkani which cannot be translated into any other language! ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]ayurveda
Hi, I do not intend to challenge the knowledge and scholarship of Santosh but can't help mentioning that he sounds profoundly naive. How else does one interpret his statement none of these (ayurvedic) practices have been scientifically validated as an effective treatment against any disease? What he apparently means by scientific validation and critical analysis are US FDA certification. None of the points raised by Filomena makes any sense to him because he apparently shares the tunnel vision of his bosses in the US, for whom accomplishments from outside the Western world are just voodoo, or at best pseudo-science. While lapping up the unpalatable (and potentially dangerous) concoctions dished out as food supplements by some US companies, who market them to Third World countries including India at exorbitant prices, does it occur to Santosh that there are many things in this whole wide world -- in the realm of science, health and medicine -- to which the Western critical analysts have no clue at all? Cheers, RKN _ Marriage? http://www.bharatmatrimony.com/cgi-bin/bmclicks1.cgi?74 Join BharatMatrimony.com for free. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Rajasthani woman (with Picture) more
Seems like most readers missed out this posting that came out in November, hope this re posting helps. cheers, Gabe Menezes - Original Message - From: JoeGoaUk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 3:08 PM Subject: [Goanet]About GOA, its native people (with Picture) more This is something to think... Check out the link below, to see how modern Goan ladies dressed and shown to the world. In UK, many holiday brochures 'on GOA' show Goan Girls dressed same way as in the picture (below). On one, a similar dressed young non-goan lady pictured titled as ' Goan Rosy' ATAH Adim Goemchim Cheddvam/Bhailo vistid or salli nestalim. Antam kitem nestat tem polle (see picture, click link below ). GOA, whether its culture, language, people etc, the picture will explain it all. GOA's fate in next 50 years, I started seeing it now already. http://www.lonelyplanet.com/lpi_slides/htmshell/indian_subcontinent/goa/sl-3.htm Thanks, Joe ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet] Ayurveda not researched at all
Filomena wrote: I do not know what the parameters of scientific research using the objective scientific method is. So I can't counter your assertion that there are no such studies on ayurvedic treatments. Hi Filomena: I have posted a lot on the scientific method in this and other Goan forums. This time around let me just state what is meant by it in one short paragraph. The Scientific method involves the following steps: 1. Observing a phenomenon. 2. Formulating a hypothesis to explain the phenomenon, based on pre- existing scientific knowledge. 3. Deriving experimentally testable predictions from the hypothesis. 4. Testing these predictions by performing experiments to determine if they hold true or not. 5. If all the predictions are true, the hypothesis becomes a valid scientific explanation for the phenomenon. 6. If any of the predictions turn out to be false, then the hypothesis is falsified, and steps 2 through 6 have to be repeated. Modern interest in Ayurveda is relatively new. Long-term studies are probably only now under way. I would love to know who is performing these studies, and exactly what they are about. They can only be managed if that is what you mean by effective treatment. There are at least 100 diseases that can be prevented or cured by modern scientific medicine. Some of these used to be major killers in India when the only treatment available was Ayurveda and primitive medicine. I am talking about pneumonia, cholera, typhoid, dysentery, small pox, tuberculosis, malaria, plague, diphtheria, leprosy, syphilis, and so on. Ayurveda is a system of its own that says that disease is caused by toxins and imbalances in the doshas. This dictum is purely an imaginative generalization based on no objective evidence whatsoever. Over the entire 3000-year long history of Ayurveda, nobody ever tried to follow the scientific method to find out whether this hypothesis is right or wrong. What toxins are they talking about? Did they know what toxin caused tuberculosis? Could they cure it with good balanced nutrition? I agree entirely that modern research into ayurvedic treatments is necessary. It is being done by westerners who have a healthy respect for alternative systems of health practice. This is not a question of respect. It is a question of prudence and honesty in making claims about effectiveness and reliability. One cannot claim that some form of treatment is most researched and reliable when people are just beginning to do that research, if indeed that is true. In the U.S., the National Institutes of Health has set up a separate center to conduct research in alternative medicine called National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine. This move was initially motivated not by any respect from genuine scientists, but because of the personal experiences of two politicians. It has achieved no confirmation of the effectiveness of any kind alternative treatment despite the fact that this center and its predecessor have been operational for nearly a decade now. Only one ayurveda-related study has been funded through it so far. It is simply to set up an institute of Ayurveda in Coimbatore, India. But we can't simply discount them as totally unscientific or discount the evidence of a good measure of success in keeping our ancestors well and healthy. I would love to see the evidence of this success in keeping our ancestors well and healthy. What I know from my reading of history of medicine is that our ancestors were dying of infectious diseases in the halcyon days of Ayurveda. For example, the population of Goa was 400,000 at the beginning of the 16th century. It was reduced to 40,000 in 1570 from common diseases that are now 100% preventable or curable. Cheers, Santosh ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]AICHEA DISSAK CHINTOP!
Ami ek kotha don pautt sangonk toear assaum punn nhoi don pautt aikonk Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Dhahran, KSA _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Khuxealborit fest!
Aumdetam sogleam Goemkarank khuxealborit Sam Francis Saibachea festachi porob! Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Dhahran, KSA _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet-news]03 DEC 2003: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS 03 Dec 2003 WE GREET all Goanetters on the occasion of the Feast of ST FRANCIS XAVIER. GOA CELEBRATES FEAST OF GOEMCHO SAIB: Since very early in the morning today all the traffic in Goa seemed to be moving towards Old Goa where the feast of St Francis Xavier was celebrated with traditional fervour. Archbishop Patriarch Raul Gonsalves presided over the High Mass which began at 10.30 am. In his homily Archbishop Gonsalves said that we have to change life for the better, modeled on the life of St Francis Xavier, who shunned worldly pleasures to serve God and society. Blasco Colaco, Apostolic Nuncio in South Africa, and Archbishop Stanislaus Fernandes of Gandhinagar, also officiated at the High Mass, concelebrated by several priests. There were masses since 4 am in the morning at the vast pandal erected in the compound of the Basilica of Bom Jesus. The pandal was packed for every mass. All along the way to Old Goa, people were seen coming on foot, singing and praising the Lord. Others came for the last few novenas and were housed in the corridor of the Basilica. Around 700 pilgrims arrived yesterday afternoon from Kolhapur and Belgaum, on foot, led by Santaji Guru, who has been making the pilgrimage on foot since the lat 23 years. KOLHAPUR PILGRIMS AT OLD GOA: A devout follower of St Francis Xavier, the middle-aged Samtaji Guru of Kolhapur has been a regular pilgrim to Old Goa for the past 23 years, along with 700-odd pilgrims, who come on foot from Belgaum and Kolhapur. They left Kolhapur on November 28 and reached Old Goa exactly at 12 noon on December 2, praying and singing in praise of the Lord and St Francis Xavier. As soon as the pilgrims reached Old Goa, they were led for an Eucharistic celebration in the pandal by the 10 priests, who accompanied them during their pilgrimage. (H) MORE ABOUT ST FRANCIS XAVIER at http://www.goacom.com/culture/religion/stfrancis/index.html KHALAP APPLIES FOR ANTICIPATORY BAIL: Former chairman of Mapusa Urban Co-operative Bank, Adv Ramakant Khalap, yesterday applied for anticipatory bail fearing his arrest in connection with two new bank scam cases filed against him recently. MUCB recovery officers had filed cases against the former law minister, and MUCB director and defaulters of the bank for swindling Rs.85 lakh. In all, seven cases have been recorded against the above accused by the crime branch of the Goa Police. (GT) NEED FOR INTENSIVE PATROLLING: The Porvorim Residents Welfare Association condemned the alarming and daring dacoity at the residence of orthopaedic surgeon Dr Deep Bhandare in Krantinagar near the vicinity of the Porvorim Police Station, have demand that the culprits be brought to task. Their press note said that there is an urgent need of intensive night foot and mobile patrolling. (H) COPS SUSPECT KOCHAR TRIBESMEN: After analyzing the modus operandi adopted by the dacoits, the Goa Police now suspect the involvement of 'Stuart Puram' or 'Kochar' tribesmen from Andhra Pradesh in the dacoity reported at Kranti Nagar, Porvorim, in the wee hours of Monday. (NT) FOREST OFFICIALS SUSPENDED: The Forest department yesterday suspended four of its personnel-Pundalik Virnodker, Ducklo Dhargalkaer, Laximan Kasker and Ayub H Khan--from the Valpoi Forest range for dereliction of duties and inefficiency. (H) MARGAO YOUTH COMMITS SUICIDE: A 19-year-old student, Nagesh Shanke, residing at Old Market, Margao, committed suicide yesterday by himself with a rope. He was working as a part-time cashier in a saloon. (NT) CM RELEASES GTM REPORT: Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar released the report of the Goa Tourism Meet held in Goa at a city hotel recently. (GT) SECURITY RETHINK FOR RAJ BHAVAN? Despite official claims to the contrary, last weekend's impersonation incident has indeed exposed a chink in Raj Bhavan's protocol and security armour. The fact remains that two complete strangers, Pradeep K Rai and his accomplice Vijay Sharma, spent the whole of Saturday (Nov 29) evening and night at the Raj Bhavan as honoured guests claiming to be relatives of the Chief Justice of India, BN Khare. (H) THREE HURT: Three students-Glenda Fernandes of Mahalwada, Glen Coutinho and Jovella Coutinho, from Chiplem, and their teacher Efresinha Barreto of Catebaga, were injured when a mini-bus carrying them went of the road at Catebaga-Galgibaba on December 1. The driver lost control of the vehicle and it fell on one side of the road. (GT) NRI GOA CENTRE TEAM FOR GULF: A delegation of representatives of the NRI Goa Facilitation Centre are to visit Gulf countries in the first week of December, to establish direct contact with the Goan Diaspora living in the Gulf countries and to acquaint them with activities of the centre. The delegation will consist of Chandrakant Keni, Swapnil Naik, Pramod Shetye and Antonio Correia Afonso. (H) TO HONOUR 'FORGOTTEN' FREEDOM FIGHTERS: For the first time, Goa is to honour freedom fighters from neighbouring States who
[Goanet]Greetings
Goa Su-Raj wishes the people of Goa, on the occasion of the Feast of Goa's Patron Saint St. Francis Xavier, a day of prayer, deep introspection and celebrations. President goasuraj. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
