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Rs.18 crore spent on Navelim roads: Faleiro
PANJIM, Sept 19: Minister for Education Luizinho Faleiro has said that
works to the tune of Rs.18 crore have been tendered for providing
facelift to roads in Navelim and its surrounding areas during the last
one year. [H]

Comment: I trust all those PWD contractors who felicitated Faleiro on
his recent birthday by taking out Newspaper adverts in the local
dailies were first in line?

The Roads were so bad, that the locals in Colmorod had taken to
protesting on the Main High Road. Having been the beneficiary of RS 18
Crore those responsible should undertake to make good their shoddy
work!

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Re: [Goanet] Are Goans homophobe


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On 19/09/06, domnic fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The Konkani word for gay is bonkmaro; homosexuality - bonkmarop.

 Moi-mogan,
 Domnic Fernandes
 Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA

RESPONSE: No beating about the bush! I love Konkani for its straight
frorwardness.
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Re: [Goanet] Are Goans Homophobe?/response to Mario

2006-09-20 Thread Bosco D'Mello


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On Tue Sep 19 21:01:23 PDT 2006, Carvalho carvalho_sel at yahoo.com wrote:

 Your post and that of Dominic Fernandes, to me reeks of homophobia.

RESPONSE: From Webster:

One entry found for homophobia.

Function: noun
: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or 
homosexuals

Kevin enquired if there was a Konkani word for Homosexual / Homosexuality. 
Domnic Fernandes provided a word that he believes fits the terminology. Now 
you state his post is homophobic ? What is your rationale ? Why condemn 
Domnic's post ? It would have been appropriate if you had provided a 
translated word(s) instead of thrusting an undesirable halo on Domnic's post.

It is true that some societies have become gay-friendly (for want of a better 
word) and we have assimilated homosexuality as part of our ideology. Canada is 
at the forefront of gay rights as Kevin earlier explained to the angst of the 
Holy See.

- Bosco
Toronto, CA
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On 19/09/06, Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mario responds:
 
 As with private religious beliefs I have no problems
 with what consenting adults of any gender or
 cdombination of genders do in private as long as they
 eschew stuffing it in my face.


RESPONSE: My, my...you do fancy yourself, really! Which homosexual
would even dream of suffing it in your face??

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[Goanet] Principal Edward J. Soares Memorial Fund

2006-09-20 Thread Rendeep Cybercafe

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Dear All

The Principal Edward J. Soares Memorial Fund Committee is extremely pleased to
inform you that the Statue ( Gun metal) 6ft tall was raised to its pedestal
today.It is a beautiful life like sculpture done by M/s Ajinkya Chaulker
Mumbai. It is indeed a proud moment for the Committee and the people of Aldona.
The innauguration will however be on 09-12-2006 about which I will give you
more details later.

This achievement was made possible by each and everyone of the donors. Many of
you have also sent notes or personally encouraged the Committee besides your
generous contribution for all of which the Committee the people of Aldona are
immensely obliged and grateful.

We have so far collected about 7.5 lacs against our target of Rs.10 lacs. We
need to collect the targetted amount in order to achieve all the aims
elucidated in our appeal especially the Annual Edward Soares Memorial Lecture
the scholarships for local schools . So those who have not sent in their
contributions may please send them in before 30th September 2006 so that we can
include your names in our souvenir .

Warm Regards

Savio
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[Goanet] An Inconvenient Truth

2006-09-20 Thread Roland Francis


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Sunith,

No rationality went into this statement of yours at all
The USA has allowed a Goan immigrant such as yourself (Mario Goveia)
to fulfil your
aspirations. Would it not be incredibly selfish if you were to deny that
opportunity to a fellow Indian who wishes to do the same in Goa.

To compare Mario to a slumdweller is to do him an injustice.
Mario went to another country after due process.
Mario did not put up some sheets of tin and occupy some land squatter style.
Mario did not defecate where he should not.

All this while 'fulfilling his aspirations'.
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[Goanet] Pope Benny XVI Should Resign and Elevate Amcho Cardinal Ivan Dias to Papacy !

2006-09-20 Thread CARMO DCRUZ


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Pope Benedict has said he is deeply sorry Muslims have been offended by his 
use of a medieval quotation on Islam and holy war but has stopped short of 
retracting his comments

Since Pope Benny XVI has proved that he is fallible (As  a devout Catholic I 
ask - whatever happened to papal infallibility, Ex Cathedra ?), he has 
apologized to Muslims who have been offended by his use of a medieval 
quotation on Islam and holy war but has stopped short of retracting his 
comments, and aroused worldwide violence that has already resulted in 
inciting hatred and violent clashes and the deaths of several faithful 
including the murder of a Italian Catholic nun in Somalia, he should repent 
and resign and atone for his mistake and elevate Amcho Cardinal Ivan Dias to 
the papacy -- since he has proved beyond reasonable doubt he is no longer a 
worthy successor to the saintly Pope John Paul II who was admired by 
Catholics and non-Catholics the world over.

Dr. Carmo D'Cruz,
Indian Harbour Beach, Florida

See news item below:

ANKARA, Turkey (Reuters) -- Employees of the state body that organizes 
Muslim worship in Turkey asked the authorities on Tuesday to open legal 
proceedings against Pope Benedict XVI and to arrest
him when he visits the country in November. Muslims worldwide have been 
angered by remarks the pope made in a lecture last week that they said 
portrayed Islam as a religion tainted by violence and irrationality.

Benedict has said he is deeply sorry Muslims have been offended by his use 
of a medieval quotation on Islam and holy war but has stopped short of 
retracting his comments.

Employees of Ankara's Directorate General for Religious Affairs, or Diyanet, 
presented a petition to the Justice Ministry asking it to launch a probe 
into the pope's remarks and to detain him when he
arrives, the Anatolian news agency said.

They said the pontiff had violated Turkish laws upholding freedom of belief 
and thought by  insulting Islam and the Prophet Mohammed.

The protesters held banners that read Either apologize or don't come.

It is not uncommon for individuals or organizations in Turkey to seek legal 
action against world leaders whose actions they disapprove of. They have 
never succeeded.

Benedict is due to pay an official visit to Turkey on November 28-30, his 
first to a Muslim country since he became pope.

Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan has described the pope's comments on 
Islam as ugly, but the government has said it still expects the visit to 
go ahead on schedule.

The Diyanet controls all imams in Turkey, writes their Friday sermons and 
sends prayer leaders to Turkish communities abroad.

Ali Bardakoglu, head of the Diyanet, has criticized the pope's remarks but 
has also welcomed his subsequent apology.


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[Goanet] An Announcement from Goan Overseas Association (Kuwait)

2006-09-20 Thread Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com


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An Announcement from Goan Overseas Association (Kuwait)
 
G.O.A.  NITE  2006
 
Goan Overseas Association would like to inform guests who are holding 
invitations for the GOA Nite 2006 that the function is being held in 
the Tent at the Ramada Hotel (formerly Safir Palace Hotel).  The tent is 
exactly opposite the entrance of the hotel at a distance of about 100 metres.  
Since there is some road construction going on near the hotel, you may face 
some difficulty in finding your way and it is advisable to leave home early.  
There is ample parking space near the tent (close to the Clinic).
 
Kindly also note the dress code is strictly formal and right of admission is 
reserved and invitations are not transferable.  All invitations have been 
exhausted and none will be issued at the entrance.  Please feel free to call 
any committee member for clarifications.
 
Managing Committee
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Visit http://www.goa-maroons-kwt.org/GOANite.html
 
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[Goanet] letter from herald - Is it planned?

2006-09-20 Thread Joel Moraes


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Is it planned?
Joel Morais
Cuncolim

During the tenure of the strong man of Varca and the brother of former UGDP 
Supremo,Mr. Joaquim Alemao ,the dream of Cuncollekars of having a stadium got 
fulfilled.The work on the bus stand and joggers park is in full swing as the 
inaugration of these projects is scheduled on the occasion of Varca Strong 
man's Birthday somewhere in November as normally our politicians like to 
inaugrate such projects on such occasions.

The work on market complex is at the initial stage.Have they made a thorough 
study on the project? Thanks to the agitators of Cuncolim for forcing to shut 
down three polluting industries at Cuncolim.These industries were brought in 
Cuncolim without making a proper study and also sacs of rupees were involved 
as sanctioning such projects is a good source of illegal income to our 
politicians in Power.Anyway Saude and Mamaim saibinn saved us from a disaster 
although our ground water got affected.

The recents rains resulted in the flooding of a place called Dandora and 
Uskini arik at Cuncolim.Although these two places don't have any link with the 
site for market complex,has a proper study been made on the filling of these 
fields could result?Where the rain water will go?I hope Cuncollekars will 
definately don't like to be the victims of floods for no fault of theirs.Can't 
they have project without filling the fields?The past and the present 40 
thieves must have made a lot on money on such projects which I call as 
unplanned development.It is the common people who are facing the worst 
consequences as a result of such unplanned developments works.

Hope the market complex at Cuncolim will not turn out to be part of unplanned 
development which will lead us to another disaster? Only time will tell us.
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[Goanet] Bishops, Muslims Build Bridges of Pea ce Following Pope’s Remark

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Bishops, Muslims Build Bridges of Peace Following Pope's Remark

By Michael Gonsalves, SAR NEWS

MUMBAI, Maharashtra (SAR NEWS) -- Even as Pope Benedict XVI's apology
over offensive remarks on Islam has not fully quelled Muslim rage
the world over, Catholic bishops, theologians and peace activists have
called for more inter-faith dialogue to bridge the growing gulf
between the two world religions.

Catholic Bishops' Conference of India (CBCI) president Cardinal
Telesphore P. Toppo, Archbishop of Ranchi, took the lead last weekend
when he met a group of top Muslim leaders following widespread
criticism of the Pope's reference to Prophet Mohammed and issued a
joint statement.

The Muslim leaders met me and gave me a memorandum, asking an apology
from the Pope. But I explained to them that the media had reported a
few lines of the Pope's lecture out of context but the Pope has the
highest regard for Islam, Cardinal Toppo told SAR News over the phone
September 20.

The Muslim leaders, who were satisfied with the Cardinal's
explanation, issued a joint press statement, which was carried by the
local media. The Muslim leaders also advised their community to
maintain peace and religious harmony in Jharkhand State.

It is crucial to hold inter-faith dialogues and frequent meetings
with Muslims at the diocesan and local level over common issues
affecting the communities from time to time, to promote deeper
understanding and appreciation of each faith, Cardinal Toppo said.
This is the effective way to build bridges of peace between
communities, he added.

The German-born Pope's remarks which were considered offensive
during a lecture in Germany September 12 had sparked outrage and
provoked protests from Muslim political and religious leaders of many
countries – from Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Morocco, Saudi Arabia and
Turkey to Indonesia, Malaysia and Pakistan. A Catholic nun was shot
dead in Somalia.

The Pope had tendered an apology for the adverse reaction in some countries.

Bishop Thomas Dabre of Vasai, who held a meeting with over 100 Muslim
leaders September 17 at the Bishop's House, said tension,
misunderstanding arise when there is increasing gulf between various
communities. We are all daughters and sons of one God and the holy
will of the Almighty is not to fear any one. Once we stop fearing
another faith, misunderstanding will vanish, said Bishop Dabre,
chairman of CBCI Commission for Christian Doctrine.

I grew up among Muslims. They were my classmates in school and
college and my Muslim neighbours treated me as their own, he said
adding, When I decided to join the seminary to become a priest, the
neighbouring Muslim family was the first one to honour me on 21 June,
1962.

The prelate said when he was ordained a priest in 1971 and on his
Episcopal ordination in 1990, the Muslim community honoured him. I
have told my Hindu friends to try to know the Muslim families before
stereotyping them with any label, Bishop Dabre said, adding India is
a unique country where all major religions of the world exist
peacefully and this should maintained.

Even as the Catholics throughout India prayed for peace during Sunday
Masses, September 17, Muslim clerics too stepped up efforts to contain
the controversy from getting overtly communalised.

At an emergency meeting at a Madrassa at Bhendi Bazaar in Mumbai
September 16, over 200 Ulemas and Imams advised Muslims to maintain
restraint in their criticism of the Pope, as any irresponsible
criticism could increase tension between two communities.

It is the ignorance of the people over certain issues which often
leads to misunderstanding and riots, said Maulana Zaheer Abbas Rizvi,
general secretary of the All India Ulema Council and national
secretary of the All India Shia Muslim Personal Law Board.

Naseem Siddiqui and Abraham Mathai, chairman and vice chairman of
Maharashtra State Minority Commission, respectively, said the issue
should not be blown out of proportion. Both were worried when RSS
praised the Pope's remarks, which they thought could provoke clashes
between the Hindu and Muslim communities. With the Pope's apology I
have been
appealing to my Muslim brothers to forget and forgive, Siddiqui said.

I have explained to Muslim leaders that the Pope has high regard for
Muslims and that he was quoted out of context by the media, Mathai
said.

The Pope in no way intended to hurt the religious sentiments of our
Muslim brothers

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Dear netters, 

Received this from a friend. Don't know how true it is but you can always
chek.

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with a rare strain of salmonella. And of course what better place to dump
these wasted products than the third world. The chocolates will be sold in
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[Goanet] Proceeds of Bandra Feast Ball held on 7th Sept in Dubai (Charity Show)

2006-09-20 Thread epitacio fernandes


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Hi,

This is Epitacio Fernandes, organizer of subject event- draft of Rs. 
2,20,000.00 sent to Rev.Fr. Augustine Valloooran at the Divine Retreat 
center-Potta, Kerala.

The above is for your info only as requested.

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[Goanet] What's wrong with Goa's panchayats and their gram sabhas?


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What's wrong with Goa's panchayats and their gram sabhas?

---
The Functioning of Gram Sabhas in Goa
Ms Seema Fernandes
Goa Institute of Rural Development  Administration
Ela, Old Goa
No date mentioned. 107pp.
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There's so much being written on Goa, but because it's not
widely catalogued or uploaded to cyberspace, it's difficult
to keep track of what all is being said. Here's a book one
came across because of a chance visit to the Goa Institute of
Rural Development  Administration at Ela, Old Goa, in a
wholly different context.

Seema Fernandes' conclusions: Goa's overall panchayati raj
(rural governance) system needs improvement. Most people are
ignorant about the entire working of local self government
in Goa. Some didn't know that ordinary meetings and special
'gram sabha' (village council) meetings are convened in the
panchayat.

Most women said their husbands attended meetings, but very
rarely discussed matters at home. Others were ignorant about
the quorum needed to conduct gram sabhas. Most had never
attended a gram sabha meeting in their life -- they don't
feel the need to attend, or see it as a male dominated meeting.

And check this out: The people did not attend meetings
because they feel that the Panchayat (village council) is not
working for the village. They have selfish motives and due to
(their) affiliation with political bodies, only promises are
made but hardly fulfilled.

Other issues raised include:

* Elected women representatives do not address women's issues
at the gram sabha meetings.

* At meetings, people appear least bothered to hear the
minutes of the earlier meeting, and are not bothered on
other crucial issues like the expenditure of the outlay of
previous years.

* Some issues dominate the meets: issues pertaining to the
grant of NOCs for constructions, water connections, which
gutter or road or culvert has to be built or re-constructed,
why a particular person was given a construction license, or
illegal houses.

* Meetings tend to lack decorum in conduct, aggravated by the
fact that no time is given for the discussion of agenda
items. This leads to a lack of interest in meetings, boredom,
and walk-outs. Many a times, discussions get heated and
uncontrollable by the presiding officer; people would gherao
the elected representatives over issues affecting them, says
the study.

Ms Fernandes stresses the role of gram sabhas in rural
socio-economic development. But she says it can be a
meaninfgul institution only when a majority of the people are
involved. In reality, attendance is very thin. Average
attendance is around 30-50 people, except in rare cases. So,
the majority is absent when decisions are taken.

In the first place, the majority of the people are quite
ignorant of the role and importance of the gram sabha, says
the study.

It adds: People have expectations from the panchayat and
this hampers the participation at gram sabhas... Lack of
sound financial resources, adequate staff, instability of the
sarpanchas, interference at all levels are some of the
reasons hampering the success of the panchayat.

Ironically, though decisions are binding on the panchayat,
it remains only on paper. Participation in Goa's gram
sabhas is selective and therefore it can be called as a
group of people who have vested interests in attending the
meeting, and as such it can be called an autocracy.

This 94-page report (plus annexures) comes with seven
chapters. An introduction, another on the efforts towards
strengthening gram sabhas, a brief overview of literature on
gram sabhas in India, the Goa panchayati raj act, people's
participation, an analysis and conclusions.

Interesting issues for those wanting to understand this issue
of vital relevance to today's rural Goa. But it's not printed
as a book (yet) or available for sale. Such work needs to be
widely disseminated and discussed, if Goa's panchayats are to
have a future beyond window-dressing.

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Re: [Goanet] Fwd: Pesticides in (Indian) Bottled Water and Soft Drinks

2006-09-20 Thread Fausto Dias


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Dear Dr. Gomes
Please note that your well water could also contain pesticides! It isn't
that the beverage makers add pesticides or whatever. It just happens that
the ground water is contaminated, more in some areas, less in others. I am
certain that the Coke manufactured in Goa (Verna) will contain much lower
levels than the national average, if at all!!

The statement that the conclusions seem to be non biased and scientifically
sound is debatable!

Fausto Dias



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  I received this from a chemist (ex NIO) who now works on
 environmental issues at Environment Canada and has worked with
 pesticides for a long time. Guess I  sticking to my well water and
 its cute frogs!
 Helga

  This is what he had to say:
 It would be advisable  to be informed on the high levels of pesticides
 found in bottled water and soft drinks manufactured in India.  read
 the original CSE Report (Aug 2006). The analytical methodology and
 conclusions seem to be non biased and scientifically sound-although
 the Coke and Pepsi multinationals will like you to believe otherwise.


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 http://www.cseindia.org/misc/cola-indepth/poison.pdf


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Re: [Goanet] Valmiki's article

2006-09-20 Thread Floriano


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 I am yet to witness the ANY good work done by all those who insulted
Sanjith
Sunith

Agreed, that Sanjith works more intelligently than most.
But will Sunith tell me is  he paid at the end of the day to do that work
from the tax I pay to the government?
Is he not a part of the government that Sunith  blames,  for not doing the
work?

If Sanjith is so great,  then let him resign like Pilarnkar, the dy.
collector of Margao, over Matka. Only then we shall know the true colours of
your dear Sanjith.

All Sanjith knows is to cover his tracks by blaming people for all ills. If
people have to solve the garbage problems by themseleves then they do not
need expensive Sanjiths to prey on them for their salaries. We will send
them all home and do the jobs ourselves and also keep our money.

One must know how to govern. And a whip is the weapon which is the integral
part of governance. Sanjiths of this world do not know the meaning of a
whip. They only know to use their tongues, as I have said earlier. If Sunith
feels offended, he is welcome to put Sanjith in front of me any day and he
can be the moderator. Let us see if Sanjith will agree to it. He will, if he
is not a whimp.

There is a limit to using the school kids to do the work  in the name of
awareness, which paid-for Sanjiths have to do on a full time basis.

Only 'Chakas'  will cover for the likes of Sanjiths. (I believe Chaka - Chak
was derived from the word 'CHAKA' meaning Enuch, Izdo)

floriano
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From: Sunith Velho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Cc: goanet@lists.goanet.org
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Valmiki's article


 Dear Clinton,

 Don't worry, most residents of Panjim are well aware of the benefits of
the
 chak-a-chak campaign. The best part of it was the super participation of
 school students in the campaign made possible entirely by the hard work of
 youngsters such as yourself. We all know the reason why Panjim is stinking
 again and it does not involve Sanjith nor the campaign.

 I am yet to witness the ANY good work done by all those who insulted
Sanjith
 and the campaign on this forum, unless of course lengthy mails, petty
abuse
 and completely un-feasible ideas can be counted as work. Also please stop
 providing statistics and figures as they will be refuted by illogical
random
 observations and a few personal insults :))

 Keep up the brilliant environmental awareness work you are doing and
ignore
 the ramblings of a few individuals frustrated by the sudden lack of
special
 attention and molly coddling they face.

 Regards
 Sunith Velho







  I take the below the belt punch at the chaka chak campaign personally as
I
 was
 one of the few that was involved in that campaign. We spend a number of
days
 and nights, often skipping lunches to get the programme underway. 25
schools
 were invited, 300 students actively participated in a door to door
awareness
 campaign, mass awareness material like educational videos and information
 sheets was generated, a 4 day exhibition on alternates to plastics was
 organized, and the outcome of all this was increased awareness, and
improved
 segregation at source. Quality of segregation was 60% before the campaign,
 and
 after, it was 80 -90%. The reason Panjim stinks is because of an
unconcerned
 government and uncaring citizens. Don?t just blame Sanjit because of a
 personal matter between you and him. Acknowledge the fact that he worked
 towards the solution instead of just sitting quiet.


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This doesn't add to the debate. Where labels are needed, logic is in
short supply! FN
PS: I'm not debating pro or anti-Sanjit, just the way this debate is
unfolding...

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On 20/09/06, Jarirbookstore Al - Ahsa Showroom English Books
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Dear netters,

Received this from a friend. Don't know how true it is but you can always
chek.

Cadbury chocolates have been withdrawn from Europe because of contamination
with a rare strain of salmonella. And of course what better place to dump
these wasted products than the third world. The chocolates will be sold in
these markets for cheaper prices. Tell any body who has kids or likes to eat
Cadbury!

To verify, check these links:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/5112470.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/5112470.stm

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/healthnews.php?newsid=45887

Jerry Fernandes

REPLY: The sites you showed do not inform us that the products were
dumped onto third World countries. The products were withdrawn in June
2006 and Cadbury sustained a loss of £20 million, which was intimated
to the London Stock Exchange.

Pushing out this kind of email could land one in Court, please be
careful. The onus is on the publsiher to check out first!!

URL:
http://www.which.co.uk/reports_and_campaigns/food_and_drink/reports/diet_nutrition_and_safety/Cadbury_salmonella_cost_news_article_557_90835.jsp
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EXCERPT: -

Proposing the motion yesterday, Simon Hughes, the party president,
warned: When we choose the top target seats in future, they cannot
all be seats where we have white male candidates.

Real and lasting diversity does not happen by accident. We either go
forward or stand still - and if we stand still we will be overtaken.

Despite a marked improvement in the number of women elected at the
last election, only 9 out of 63 MPs are female.

The party has no black or ethnic minority MPs at all, while Labour
have 11 and the Tories two.

Rabi Martins, a councillor from Watford, added: There is no equal
playing field at the moment. Good intentions do not get us anywhere.

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[Goanet] Comments invited -DRAFT - NATIONAL RURAL HOUSING AND HABITAT POLICY 2006

2006-09-20 Thread President(sgpiag)


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We, at South Goa Public Interest Action Group 
(SGPIAG) a registered NGO based in Margao,Salcete,
South Goa District ,with jurisdiction, at present,
over the entire South Goa District, wish to invite the
kind attention of all NGO's and well meaning citizens
of Goa India to a Draft National Rural Housing and
Habitat Policy 2006  a proposal to be put up to the
Government of India Facilitated by South Asia Regional
Knowledge Platform. 

The draft was  earlier developed at the workshop held
at New Delhi on 23rd February 2006

ABOUT THIS DOCUMENT
A house with basic amenities of water, sanitation and
domestic energy, offering a sense of privacy, safety
and dignity is the right of every individual in
society. 

Facilities of education, health and child care, and
special opportunities for income generation are
essential to the growth and well being of a productive
society, and form a part of human habitat.

It is the responsibility of a society to ensure that
basic human rights and equity of opportunities for
growth are available to all citizens. 

As a nation, we give our selves policies to create
conditions that cause the realisation of rights and
equitable access to
opportunities for all.

The National Habitat Policy over the decades, has
sought to achieve the aim of adequate habitat
(shelter) for all. It has undergone many revisions to
suit national priorities and changing macro - social
and economic conditions. 

The last National Habitat Policy of 1998, although
comprehensive, could not provide adequate direction
especially to rural areas in the absence of a focus on
the distinct concerns and needs of these areas. 

The new Draft National Urban Housing and Habitat
Policy attempts to tackle urban habitat issues. The
country now needs a Rural Housing and Habitat Policy
based on the special character, priorities and
potential of rural India in order that Rural Habitat
concerns are adequately and realistically addressed.
Considering its backward  forward linkages to the
overall economy, it is essential that rural habitat
development be seen in the context of rural poverty
alleviation. 

The Bharat Nirman Program and the National Rural
Employment Guarantee Act (NREGA) are steps in this
direction. 

In order that positive movements are reinforced and
peoples investments are harnessed towards an
integrated rural development process, it is essential
that we give ourselves a National Rural Habitat Policy
that will promote conditions to facilitate the
creation of sustainable habitat and livelihood in
rural areas. 

basin-South Asia Regional Knowledge Platform
(basin-SA) has undertaken a small initiative to bring
together ideas, opinions and successful methodologies
of different stakeholders to inform the development of
the National Rural Housing and Habitat Policy. The
dialogue was triggered by research and documentation
supported by the Building and Social Housing
Foundation, UK and Swiss Agency for Development and
Cooperation. 

In this process, intensive research and consultations
with practitioners and policy makers across the
country
were carried out to form an understanding of rural
conditions, strengths, needs and potential for large
scale development of habitat and livelihoods in rural
areas. 

The process resulted in the development of a
Framework for a Rural Habitat Policy for
India and has further motivated basin-SA to initiate
a country wide process of engaging different
stakeholders for developing a ---draft of the Rural
Habitat Policy  as it should be and proposing it to
the Government of India. 

As a first step, a consultation was organised on 23rd
February 2006 in New Delhi by Akhil Bhartiya Samaj
Sewa Sansthan, facilitated by basin-SA and supported
by
DFIDs Poorest Areas Civil Society Program. 

The consultation brought together NGOs, bankers and
government functionaries to discuss, debate and
propose clauses for the policy document   This
document is the first draft of the policy developed
through this process to serve as a trigger for
discussion on policy clauses and provisions with a
wider audience. 

It draws heavily from the Draft National Urban
Housing and Habitat Policy (2005) and attempts to
connect the policy on urban areas with rural areas. 

The process of policy development is now being taken
to all the States in the country for consultation.
Inputs from each State Level Consultation will be
incorporated at each step as the

Re: [Goanet] Are Goans Homophobe?/response to Mario

2006-09-20 Thread Carvalho


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Dear Darling Bosco,

It could be that I jumped the gun on Dominic (no puns
here) but in all my years as a Goan, I've never heard
this word used. If indeed this is a Goan word to
describe homosexuality, then how would one describe
heterosexuality? Potmarob? Because all you can see
protruding from Goan men, are their ample pots. :))

Selma


--- Bosco D'Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  Your post and that of Dominic Fernandes, to me
 reeks of homophobia.
 
 RESPONSE: From Webster:
 
 One entry found for homophobia.
 
 Function: noun
 : irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination
 against homosexuality or 
 homosexuals
 
 Kevin enquired if there was a Konkani word for
 Homosexual / Homosexuality. 
 Domnic Fernandes provided a word that he believes
 fits the terminology. Now 
 you state his post is homophobic ? What is your
 rationale ? Why condemn 
 Domnic's post ? It would have been appropriate if
 you had provided a 
 translated word(s) instead of thrusting an
 undesirable halo on Domnic's post.
 


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Re: [Goanet] More info on the Cancer Myth

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Santosh,

The only thing that some of us have demonstrated concerning you is
that we don't take everything you say (or quote) at face value.

I'm sorry, I can't offer you any help in your newfound effort to stop
embarrassing yourself, but here's something that may help: You know
how you're surrounded by a small group who never ever disagree with
you, some who often rush to your defense? Well, every time that you
feel that knee-jerk urge to vehemently disagree with and embarrass one
of the conservatives on this forum, ask yourself what you'd do if it
were one of your coterie instead.

Peter
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 Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 00:18:17 -0700 (PDT)
 From: Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Peter,

 I think you have already demonstrated many times that
 you, Gilbert and others who share your views are much
 smarter than me at everything. I would therefore
 humbly ask you to stop embarrassing me any further on
 Goanet. Can you be so kind as to honor this humble
 request of mine?

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[Goanet] Bonkmaro

2006-09-20 Thread JoeGoaUk


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Thanks, 
Another new Konkani word I learnt today.
(although, like many other words, it is not there in my Konk-Eng dictionary)

My analysis:
- It appears that 'bonk-maro' is derived partly from Hindi e.g Usko maro (beat 
him)
- As it comes from Dominic's Antique shelf, it is evident that 'bonkmarop' is 
not a new or
recent thing like in 1980s or 90s.
- I can well understand how and why the word 'Bonkmaro'
- I also understand that all Gays are not Bonkmaro/e
- Its Ok when it comes to M-to-M bonkmarop but what about M-to-F which is also 
very common now
a day ? (perhaps, I am watching too many videos)
- Fianlly, Listen to this song first

Oh-oh-oh-oh
Oh-oh-oh-oh
Oh-oh-oh-oh
Oh-oh-oh-oh

Everybody was kung-fu fighting 
Those cats were fast as lightning 
In fact it was a little bit frightening 
For they fought with expert timing 
===
1980s, this was very popular dance in Goa (this song may be of 1970s)
I too enjoyed it very much (I Really miss those days)

This dance involves in touching each other waists  bum (and elbows i think)
Where both  (Male and female i mean) hit each other waists (Bendd) first 
right(quickly
jump/QJ) then left (QJ)then Bum (Bonk).
When we were hitting each others bum (Bonk), and if you asked me what this was 
called ? With
my little knowledge of konkani, I would say it is 'Bonkmarop'

Hoemwork:
Can any one suggest another (new) konkani word for 'Gay' ?
Please avoid using these words: Inzllo, Bail, bai-zuan, bailancher contr, 
Cheddiam-poder etc.


The Konkani word for gay is bonkmaro; homosexuality - bonkmarop.

That's interesting, Domnic bab. But what about lesbianism?

Cheers,
RKN




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Re: [Goanet] An Inconvenient Truth


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--- Roland Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 To compare Mario to a slumdweller is to do him an
 injustice.
 Mario went to another country after due process.
 Mario did not put up some sheets of tin and occupy
 some land squatter style.
 Mario did not defecate where he should not.
 
 All this while 'fulfilling his aspirations'.
 
Mario observes:

Roland,
I had no idea you had me under such close
surveillance:-))  I must remember to continue
defecating exactly where I should:-))

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Re: [Goanet] Valmikis article

2006-09-20 Thread Sunith Velho


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Floriano writes:
Only 'Chakas'  will cover for the likes of Sanjiths. (I believe Chaka - Chak
was derived from the word 'CHAKA' meaning Enuch, Izdo)

Sunith responds:
That is really mature of you  Mr. Floriano! (Moderators please note the use 
of foul language to back an illogical argument)

Now lets return to my orginal point.
I am yet to witness the ANY good work done by all those who insulted 
Sanjith and the campaign on this forum, unless of course lengthy mails, 
petty
abuse and completely un-feasible ideas can be counted as work.

Regards
Sunith Velho



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Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Valmiki's article


 Dear Clinton,

 Don't worry, most residents of Panjim are well aware of the benefits of
the
 chak-a-chak campaign. The best part of it was the super participation of
 school students in the campaign made possible entirely by the hard work of
 youngsters such as yourself. We all know the reason why Panjim is stinking
 again and it does not involve Sanjith nor the campaign.

 I am yet to witness the ANY good work done by all those who insulted
Sanjith
 and the campaign on this forum, unless of course lengthy mails, petty
abuse
 and completely un-feasible ideas can be counted as work. Also please stop
 providing statistics and figures as they will be refuted by illogical
random
 observations and a few personal insults :))

 Keep up the brilliant environmental awareness work you are doing and
ignore
 the ramblings of a few individuals frustrated by the sudden lack of
special
 attention and molly coddling they face.

 Regards
 Sunith Velho







  I take the below the belt punch at the chaka chak campaign personally as
I
 was
 one of the few that was involved in that campaign. We spend a number of
days
 and nights, often skipping lunches to get the programme underway. 25
schools
 were invited, 300 students actively participated in a door to door
awareness
 campaign, mass awareness material like educational videos and information
 sheets was generated, a 4 day exhibition on alternates to plastics was
 organized, and the outcome of all this was increased awareness, and
improved
 segregation at source. Quality of segregation was 60% before the campaign,
 and
 after, it was 80 -90%. The reason Panjim stinks is because of an
unconcerned
 government and uncaring citizens. Don?t just blame Sanjit because of a
 personal matter between you and him. Acknowledge the fact that he worked
 towards the solution instead of just sitting quiet.


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[Goanet] Gulf War

2006-09-20 Thread joseph pereira


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Dear Sir, 

Ref. (Goanet-news) Goas NRI Commissionerate to expand
list for next convention, I wish to register myself,
working for Saudi Oberoi Company in Jeddah, Saudi
Arabia. 
(Indian Embassy registration No.Jed/Reg/2147) since
16.2.1993 

I would also like to bring to your notice that I
worked in Iraq during Gulf War and my remittance
amount of ID 2718.003 deposited by my employer
NINEVAH OBEROI, Mosul in AL RASHEED BANK, Iraq is
pending. 

I had received letter from Embassy of India, Baghdad
dated 5.6.93 contents mentioned below: 
Further to our letter of even number dated 23.2.93
regarding remittance of an amount I.D 2718.003
deposited by your employer with Al-Rasheed Bank. 

We have received a reply from Iraqi Foreign Office
stating that the said amount is in Rasheed Bank but
due to the freezing of Iraqi assets abroad, they are
not in a position to remit it and that they will
consider the remittance of the same after UN economic
sanctions are lifted. 
Yours faithfully, 
(S.K.Bahl) 
S.S.(Con) 
Copy forwarded to: (1)Ministry of External Affairs,
Gulf Division, New Delhi, w.e.t. letter No.G-415/8/93
dtd. 5.2.93 
(2) Sh.I.B.Sharma, Section Officer Prime Ministers
office w.r.t letter no. 19/03/93-PMP-II/865069
dt.27.1.93 

I request you to take my case for necessary action. 
Thanking you in anticipation, 

Yours faithfully, 
Caetano J.Pereira 
Hotel Jeddah Trident 
P.O.Box:17466 
Jeddah: 21494 
K.S.A 
Mobile No. 966 567934835 

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[Goanet] Abade Faria Foundation

2006-09-20 Thread richard


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It gives me a certain thrill to announce that finally some well-meaning and
patriotic citizens of Candolim got together to honour a famous son of the
soil, Pe. Jose Custodio Faria who was born in Candolim, once-upon-a-time a
nondecrepit, sleepy little hamlet which did not even nhave an identity of
its won being part of the world-famous Calangute village.
The foundation ws launched at the hands of Shri Eduardo Faleiro who much
appreciated the efforts of the Foundation led by the indefatigable Shri
Tomazinho Cardozo and the local MLa Shri Agnelo Fernandes. He also assured
that he would take up the matter of honouring this great Goan at the
national level.
The keynote address was delivered by Dr.Nandakumar Kamat in his inimitable
style. Though he did not bring any new insight into the matter already known
he did intersperse his speech with his brand of humour which kept the
300 -strong audience attentive.
Earlier the gathering was welcomed by the Hon. MLA of Calangute
Constituency, Shri Agnelo Fernandes and the the introductions were made by
Shri Dominic Rodrigues. Shri Tomazinho Cardozo gave some glimpse of the man
and the future work of the Foundation.
The vote of thanks was proposed by Shri Rodrigues.
The foundation had also invited Prof. Santa Rita Vas whole documentary was
screened therafter.
As was the common refrain a beginning has been made in the right direction.
It's time we honoured our own with the honour due to them.
Kator re bhaji!
Richard Cabral
Candolim


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[Goanet] Goa news for September 21, 2006

2006-09-20 Thread Goanet News Service


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Goa News from Yahoo! News and Goanet.org

Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.


*** New flights (The Hindu)

NEW DELHI: Air Deccan, a low-cost carrier, has announced new
flights from Delhi to Ahmedabad, Goa and Bhubaneswar. The
Delhi-Bhubaneswar service will begin on October 30 and the
Delhi-Ahmedabad, Delhi-Raipur and Delhi-Goa flights on November
20. ...

http://www.thehindu.com/2006/09/21/stories/2006092117651500.htm


*** Lalu Yadav's delayed arrival irks railway passengers in Goa
(New Kerala)

By Devraj, Madgaon, Sept 19: Although delayed and cancelled
trains may be a standing feature of the Indian Railways, the
manner in which trains were detained at Madgaon to give passage
to a special train carrying Railway Minister Lalu Prasad Yadav,
left thousands of passengers fuming with anger on Tuesday.

http://www.newkerala.com/news4.php?action=fullnewsid=24002


*** Lalu Yadav to inspect anti-collision device of Konkan
Railway (New Kerala)

Panaji, Sept 20: Railway Minister Lalu Yadav is scheduled to
inspect the anti-collision device designed by Konkan Railway
Corporation (KRC), on Margao-Verna sector in south Goa,
officials said.

http://www.newkerala.com/news4.php?action=fullnewsid=24463


*** Lalu revives Goa's sky bus project (The Times of India)

The tourist state of Goa would reap huge benefits from the new
age mode of public transport that promises an aerial view of
the surroundings to commuters.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/2011863.cms


*** Trisha bags national award (Navhind Times)

Panaji, Sept 20: Trisha Sabir of Goa Yachting Association was
awarded the prestigious #152;most promising yachtsperson of
the year by the national body for yachting, Yachting
Association of India (YAI), in Mumbai recently. The award was
presented by YAI president, Adm Arun Prakash.

http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=092225


*** EU procedures delaying issuance of passports, says
Portuguese MP (Navhind Times)

Panaji, Sept 20: The general secretary of Portuguese Communist
Party (PCP) and the member of Portuguese Parliament, Mr
Jeronimo de Souza today said that the European Union has
virtually turned Europe into a fortress and this was the main
reason for the delay in issuing Portuguese passports by the
Consulate of Portugal in Goa.

http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=092115


*** Navy war room leak: assets in Goa seized (Navhind Times)

Panaji, Sept 19: A team of Central Bureau of Investigation
today attached the factory of Ravi Shankaran, the main accused
in the navy war room leak case, at Verna Industrial Estate and
has frozen his bank accounts in State Bank of India, Vasco.

http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=092016


*** Karen Goa in the library (Scoop.co.nz)

In this months Glengarry Writers in the Library series, you are
invited to hear travel and food writer Karen Goa at the Central
City Library on 27 September.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/AK0609/S00180.htm


*** Goa church pays tribute to Mozart (Yahoo! India News)

On the 250th year of the Mozart's birth, a church in Goa found
a unique way to pay its tribute to the composer.

http://in.news.yahoo.com/060917/211/67o7j.html


*** Goa should improve intellectual capital: Infosys director
(Yahoo! India News)

Panaji, Sep 17 (IANS) Goa needs to address its 'limited
educational capabilities' if it is to come anywhere near its
dream of luring IT players to this region, said Infosys
Director (resources) T.V. Mohandas Pai.

http://in.news.yahoo.com/060917/43/67o3h.html


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[Goanet] SAVE GOA FRONT REITERATES DECISION TO STOP IFFI 2006

2006-09-20 Thread airesrod


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A well attended public meeting of the Save Goa Front
held at Margao last evening (September 20) reiterated
and vowed not to allow the 37th IFFI, scheduled to be
held between 23 November and 3 December 2006 in Goa.

The Front has stated that it is left with no
alternative but to stall IFFI 2006 in protest against
the failure of the government to initiate any action
on the 7- point demands of the front. 

By stopping IFFI 2006 the Save Goa Front would
highlight the plight of Goans and the ground realities
in Goa to the whole world.

Save Goa Fronts 7-point demands includes Scrapping of
Corporation of City of Panaji's plan to have a garbage
disposal site at Bainguinim it being a religious and
heritage site, the immediate recall of Goas Governor
S.C. Jamir for his cosmetic and partisan role and
moreover as his annual security costs of 2 crores was
an undue and highly exorbitant burden to the state and
national exchequers, a scrutiny and review of all
ration and voter cards issued, the immediate closure
of all polluting companies in Goa and a stop to any
more casinos,  a ceiling on the quantum of land that a
person not of Goan origin may buy in Goa,  a halt to
the rampant corruption and an immediate enquiry by the
CBI and Income tax authorities into all the
disproportionate assets of all current and former
Ministers,  and a government policy to tackle
unemployment and a demand to immediately stop all
unnecessary extensions in service beyond retirement
and contract appointments.  

Vowing not to allow Mr. Joaquim Alemao to set up a
garbage disposal plant at Baingunim, the Front has 
demanded a vigilance inquiry into the recent tendering
of a garbage disposal facility at Sonsodo in South Goa
as the government will incur a heavy expenditure in
calling for an unproven, costly and non-workable
solution to the garbage issue, thereby wasting public
money. 

The Front has expressed happiness that with the mass
support the Save Goa Front was getting from Goans
across Goa the Front would strive to preserve the Goan
identity, root out corruption and to prevent the
further degeneration of Goas cultural and moral
fabric.

The meeting was addressed by Mr. Bhiku Pai Angle, Dr.
Francisco Colaco, Mr. Babal Desai, Mr. Bissut Temudo,
Dr. Jorson Fernandes, Prof  Harishchandra Nagvenkar,
Adv. Yogesh Gaitonde, Mr. Premanand Lotlikar, Mr. Joel
Morais, Adv. Jawahar Dias, Mr. Jose Maria Miranda and
the former Deputy collector of Margao Mr. Suresh
Pilarnekar.

Speakers expressed dismay at the state of Goa today
and appealed to every Goan to rise and play a positive
role in saving Goa.

Speaker after speaker lambasted the government over
various issues including the soaring levels of
corruption and crime in Goa, the pollution at Cuncolim
industrial estate, the high-handed decision to allot
free land to migrants at Moti Dongor, Margao and the
proposed mechanical ore handling plant at Xelvona. 
 
Aires Rodrigues
Convenor
Save Goa Front

Mobile: 9822684372






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Re: [Goanet] Gambling: Causing more harm than good/Ruth de Souza

2006-09-20 Thread Peter D'Souza


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Hi Ruth,

Thanks for posting your comments on the subject of gambling. It made
for very interesting reading. Your statement below was particularly
interesting:

 Increasingly high rates of gambling have been noted among
 Chinese communities, particularly new migrants and restaurant
 workers. It is thought that this is precipitated by
 loneliness, isolation, cultural and language barriers.

Would you happen to have any more research concerning the demographic
group you describe above in relation to gambling? I've often heard of
boredom leading to
drug addiction, petty crime, and depression; but gambling comes as a
surprise addition to the list. The common conception of Chinese
restaurant workers / new Chinese migrants is that they work so hard
that they have little time for anything else.

On a related note, there was an article in the _Wall Street Journal_
about a fortnight ago which talked about some of the bigger casinos in
China as being operated by wealthy Americans. They catered to domestic
and foreign businessmen, and not to the average Chinese person. So, I
was wondering, does the barrage of materialism that crashes upon
unsuspecting immigrants contribute to this (new?) love of gambling?

 So I conclude this diatribe with some questions: Can Goa
 afford to have ten new offshore casinos? Does it need to be a
 gambler's paradise? Will these casinos create wealth for
 Goans and Indians or will they cause more harm? Can industry
 operators provide a safe product? If not is it better to not
 have casinos at all? Will more casinos lead the way to the
 installation of electronic gaming machines?

Good questions all. Here is a partial answer from _New Scientist_:
  The American gambling meccas of Atlantic City, Las Vegas and
Reno all suffer significantly higher suicide rates than comparable
cities that outlaw gaming. A new study suggests that cities pay a
price in public mental health when they cash in on gambling profits.

Source: http://tinyurl.com/r3bpl

Peter D'Souza
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Re: [Goanet] Are Goans Homophobe?/response to Mario

2006-09-20 Thread Bosco D'Mello


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On Wed Sep 20 10:08:40 PDT 2006, Carvalho wrote:

 Dear Darling Bosco,

 It could be that I jumped the gun on Dominic (no puns here) but in 
 all my years as a Goan, I've never heard this word used. If indeed 
 this is a Goan word to describe homosexuality, then how would one 
 describe heterosexuality? Potmarob? Because all you can see protruding 
 from Goan men, are their ample pots. :))

Selma

RESPONSE: For starters shall we please follow Captain Morgan's filosawphee - 
What happens below the deck, STAYS below the deck!

You have more than jumped the gun on this one. Besides your gaffe in the 
earlier message, you have now acknowledged that you know all the Konkani words 
there are to know. Viva !! A slug of Captain Morgan's to that.

Secondly you are forcefully shoving Domnic into the company of your off-key 
but soloist brass player - who does the fingering and blowing without any 
help. Domnic's talent is writing, with sincerity I might add. He is no brass 
player.

Thirdly, I don't know which Goan men you were looking at when you saw 
those pots. Captain Morgan and his crew have labored to carry around a 
chiselled 6-pack.

Let Konkani education - words, grammar, script run perennially.

Best - Bosco

PS. In all my years as a Goan, I never knew there was a place called Kamanwada 
in Goa
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[Goanet] Power To Them

2006-09-20 Thread Roland Francis


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Gay marriages on the rise in Goa
Press Trust Of India

Panaji: The number of gays entering into wedlock in Goa is on the rise
and groups working for homosexual rights are demanding legal cover for
such marriages.

In the last couple of years in Goa, we got 25 such gay couples
married. They don't have social acceptance but the number of gay
marriages is rising, said Vishant Chodankar of the Humsafar trust in
Goa.

The NGO is the only one working for gay rights in Goa. Fearing social
stigma and discrimination, we had to conduct all these marriages in a
clandestine manner, he said.

A few years ago, a renowned male fashion designer based in Goa
solemnised his marriage to his male partner. It was recorded as the
first gay marriage in India.

Chodankar, who is himself married to a male partner, feels loyalty in
gay marriages is much more than in conventional marriages.

Without legality and social acceptance, many gay partners meet during
the day and live with their parents.

They are ready to come out in public with their relationship if there
is social acceptance, Chodankar said.

He says the NGO is worried about high susceptibility to
sexually-transmitted diseases among gays.

Every year, we meet around 1,000 to 1,500 new gay couples in Goa
itself. There will be many others. We have initiated an exercise to
educate them about the high risk they face, Chodankar said.

Referring to the demand for legalising gay marriages, he said, Gay
couples cut across the age group of 18 to 50 years. We need the
government's help to legalise such an institution, he added.
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Re: [Goanet] Are Goans Homophobe?/response to Selma


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--- Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear Mario,
 
 Why do I detect an undertone of sarcasm in your
 post? If not, why else would beacon of hope be in
 inverted commas in your message. Your post and that 
 of Dominic Fernandes, to me reeks of homophobia. 
 
 I don't pretend to understand homosexuality but
 having known so many homosexual men, some of whom I
 consider very good friends, I don't sit in judgment 
 of it.  What goes on between two consenting adults 
 is their own business.
 
Mario responds:

Selma,
I have no idea why you detect an undertone of
sarcasm in my post.
  
However, your admission that you have a host of very
good male homosexual friends reeks of an undertone
of sexism and discrimination against female
homosexuals:-)) [Two can play the same game of
identifying absurd reeks and undertones in what
others have said:-))]

I have both kinds of friends, just as I have friends
of diverse colors, sizes, shapes and ethnicities.  The
reason we get along is because we have other things in
common and do not go around trumpeting our very
personal beliefs on religion and sexuality.

Your comical post reeks of presumptious indignation,
not to mention your remarkable ability to catch the
bull by the tail with amazing consistency.

First, in another recent post, you quote with absolute
certainty the opinions of atheists/agnostics on the
real reasons for the celibacy of Catholic priests. 
This is like quoting Karl Marx on the wisdom of free
market economies.

Now you presume to interpret my use of quotes around
beacon of hope in describing Wendell Rodricks for
his moral support for the gay lifestyle.

In the meantime, you totally ignore the essence of
everything else I have said on the subject, which you
force me to repeat below:

a) As with private religious beliefs I have no
problems with what consenting adults of any gender or
combination of genders do in private as long as
they eschew stuffing it in my face. [Note: No smiley
face used, even though I was sorely tempted:-))]

and
 
b) I, too, am glad for all of them, as it must be
difficult to be gay in straight-laced Goa.

BTW, I used quotes around beacon of hope because I
personally doubt that the avante garde Wendell was
providing much hope for the average homosexual Goan
living under the storm-clouds of disapproval of the
very straight-laced Goans in Goa, any more than say,
Sir Elton John might provide.  Look at Wendell, Ma!
is hardly likely to get much sympathy there.

Finally, I used quotes around moral simply to pull
your leg:-)).  Please don't interpret it as anything
to do with real morality:-))



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Re: [Goanet] Pope Benny XVI Should Resign - why?


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--- CARMO DCRUZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Since Pope Benny XVI has proved that he is fallible
 (As  a devout Catholic I ask - whatever happened to 
 papal infallibility, Ex Cathedra ?), he has 
 apologized to Muslims who have been offended by his
 use of a medieval quotation on Islam and holy war 
 but has stopped short of retracting his comments, 
 and aroused worldwide violence 

Mario observes:

Carmo,
Would you please read Pope Benny's entire speech at
the University of Regensburg in the URL below and let
us know what exactly he is supposed to apologize for?

http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=46474


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Re: [Goanet] More info on the Cancer Myth

2006-09-20 Thread Santosh Helekar


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Peter,

Have you ever considered the possibility that you
might be wrong? From my standpoint, if you have
revealed anything in this forum, it is that you have
developed an antipathy towards me. I also know from
earlier experience, that you are fighting your own
imaginary battles between liberals and conservatives
divided along some arbitrary lines, and thrusting me
in the midst of them. I submit to you that the type of
groupism that you are advancing in this forum is toxic
by its very nature. I hope some day you find within
yourself the charity to post something without
insulting another human being.

Cheers,

Santosh



--- Peter D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Santosh,
 
 The only thing that some of us have demonstrated
 concerning you is
 that we don't take everything you say (or quote) at
 face value.
 
 I'm sorry, I can't offer you any help in your
 newfound effort to stop
 embarrassing yourself, but here's something that may
 help: You know
 how you're surrounded by a small group who never
 ever disagree with
 you, some who often rush to your defense? Well,
 every time that you
 feel that knee-jerk urge to vehemently disagree with
 and embarrass one
 of the conservatives on this forum, ask yourself
 what you'd do if it
 were one of your coterie instead.
 
 Peter
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Re: [Goanet] Fwd: Pesticides in (Indian) Bottled Water and SoftDrinks

2006-09-20 Thread Helga do R. Gomes


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Fausto, I am aware of the fact that the Coke and Pepsi companies DO NOT ADD 
pesticides. Why would I think so? Large quantities of pesticides in ground 
water are a consequence of an over zealous green revolution. Another 
consequence of this green revolution is the high levels of nitrate and 
phosphate which have been added to coastal waters of the west coast of India 
and which have caused severe eutrophication at mid depth. There is evidence 
that an already existing O2 minimum zone may be increasing.


 The statement that the conclusions seem to be non biased and 
 scientifically
 sound is debatable!
What would you debate about this statement? I could pass on your comments to 
my friend and he will certainly address them.
Helga 

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Re: [Goanet] Heritage Homes


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--- Sunith Velho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear Helga,
 
 It was not the Peres ladies who preserved that house
 but an enterprising NRI-return Mr. Varun Sood. The 
 house in question was falling apart and abandoned 
 before he bought it. He also owns a wonderful 
 boutique hotel called Siolim House.
 
 Most of the boutique hotels in Goa, are old houses
 that were bought and refurbished by Indians not 
 from Goa. Some enterpreneurs like Sheela Dhody(Case 
 Britona, Casa Baga,etc) are rumoured to have at 
 least 20 similar properties. Non-goan Indians are 
 at the forefront of this great initiative that 
 preserves our architectural heritage and makes
 loads of money at the same time. Rest assured that 
 there are more old Goan houses serving as hotels 
 than there are havelis in Jaipur.
 
Mario observes:

Did someone on this forum recently opine that
non-Goans were ruining Goa?  Seems like they are at
the forefront of a) appreciating and b) preserving
what is best about Goa - the unique confluence of east
and west.

Saying that non-Goans are ruining Goa is like saying
that immigrants ruined America, Canada, Australia and
New Zealand:-))  




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Re: [Goanet] More info on the Cancer Myth


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  Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 00:18:17 -0700 (PDT)
  From: Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Peter,
 
  I think you have already demonstrated many times
  that you, Gilbert and others who share your views 
  are much smarter than me at everything. 

--- Peter D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 The only thing that some of us have demonstrated
 concerning you is that we don't take everything you 
 say (or quote) at face value.
 
Mario observes:

Once again, Santosh has it backwards.  It has nothing
to do with being smart, since Santosh probably has
the highest IQ of all Goanetters.  In my never humble
opinion the high IQ is part of the problem because it
has impressed several old and vociferous Goanetters,
and some new ones on the left wing, into humble
submission and acclaim and reticence, and, until
recently, has gotten away with the most outrageous
assertions interspersed among many valuable insights
and observations.

However, as we have seen over and over again, most
recently in the unprovoked and horrific attack on
Gilbert's professionalism and core ethics, based on a
totally false reading of what Gilbert had written and
a rush to judgement that was grossly uncalled for from
a medical professional, what we need is an attitude
adjustment and a respect for opposing views that is
totally lacking, no matter how many personal
testimonials are forthcoming from old friends on
Goanet.

His friends call him a decent human being.  It's
high time he reflected on what made them feel that
way.


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Re: [Goanet] vindaloo, the Goan mouth-watering dish