Re: [Goanet] Talking Photos: Some Goa Pics

2009-08-26 Thread Naguesh Bhatcar


   August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary




On seeing these two photos, my 1st thought was, do these cops know how to swim?
What are these guys doing on this boat, in their uniform and without the life 
jackets?

Hope they can stop some defaulters by blowing their whistles!

How long before the families of top Goa cops get joyrides on the Mandovi?
We have to wait and see. Hopefully, Joe will be able to capture those pictures 
too!

New Goa Police Patrol Boat
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk21/3796068094/sizes/l/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk21/3788930195/sizes/l/

 
Naguesh Bhatcar
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> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:14:40 +
> From: joego...@yahoo.co.uk
> To: goa...@goanet.org
> Subject: [Goanet] Talking Photos: Some  Goa Pics

> 
> Talking Photos: Some Goa Pics
> 
>  
> Where is this?
> (Clue: Outside Panjim)
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk21/3779469279/sizes/l/
>  
> Madde Hube
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk21/3773500184/sizes/l/
>  
>


[Goanet] ST & OBCs reservations

2009-08-26 Thread Dr . Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão


   August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary






The recent Supreme Court’s ruling on reservation for Schedule Tribes and OBCs 
which appeared in the local dailies on 18th August, 2009, is a welcome 
decision. The ruling states that a migrant SC or ST cannot claim a reserved 
status in OBC quota in another State. Many migrants have usurped Goan jobs 
reserved for OBCs  in government and semi-government offices, etc.  So too have 
students from outside States occupied seats in our professional colleges. It is 
now for our Labour, Employee’s, Student’s Unions, etc., to take up this issue 
and be vigilant in future.


Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.

 


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[Goanet] Righteous Christians?

2009-08-26 Thread soter


   August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary



NT report reads,
"Campaigners for transparency and accountability in
> management of church properties are expected to meet the
> Archbishop soon. .
Present at this meet were at least 40 persons. Prominent
> among them being Ms Libby Lobo Sardessai, Mr Flaviano Dias,
> Fr Romaldo De Souza, Mr Bernardo De Souza, Dr
> Teotonio De Souza, Fr Mouzinho Athaide, Ms Devika Sequeira,
> Mr Fredrick Noronha, ex-MLA, Mr Victor Gonsalves,
> and ex-MLA, Mr Radharao."

Can someone throw some light on whether these elements have ever been concerned 
about the welfare of the church in the past. What is their sudden concern for 
church properties? If they were, some of them would not have given consent to 
the communal CD during the BJP rule. Names are no pointer to being christian or 
not. Shantaram Kamat may also be a christian in today's era. The MP behind it 
all is alleged to have been a chamcha of Indira Gandhi and incited her to raid 
Gandhian institutions during the emergency wherein several manuscripts of 
historical importance were destroyed in those police raids. This non-resident 
Goan from Delhi who cannot reside without some government posting is not like 
the son of Goa,  Planner Mr. Edgar Ribeiro who gave consultancy for a token fee 
of Re1/-. Before demanding transparency and accountability from the church, the 
NRI Commissioner and his band of self-proclaimed righteous campaigners need to 
give an account about themselves to the Goan pub
 lic. Some of them may be wanting to take away the church properties and give 
it alternate space in the cyber world. While there are so many pressing social 
issues confronting Goa that needs urgent attention, it is interesting that some 
people are distracting the public on church properties. 

-soter


[Goanet] Italian Reality TV Series

2009-08-26 Thread Eddie Fernandes


   August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary



Folks,

Next month a TV crew with a group of Italian celebrities, some of them
notorious, arrives in Goa:

La Nazione (26 Aug), Il Giornale (25 Aug) etc.  Italy's Channel 5 is to
broadcast a new series, The Tribe, which will be aired in prime time from 16
September for eight weeks. 

The 13 competitors will leave for Goa after a brief survival course in Rome.


They will have to eat, work, sleep and live like the local population and
survive!


http://quotidianonet.ilsole24ore.com/2009/08/26/222865-ecco_tutti_nomi.shtml

I do hope that none of them gets conned into buying property. Yes George?

The Italian media are giving the series much attention but my Italian is not
up to the mark.  Vivian, are you there?

Eddie Fernandes



Re: [Goanet] Goan associations

2009-08-26 Thread J. Colaco < jc>


   August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary



 Eugene Correia  wrote:

As regards Goan associations, even the Toronto-based Goan Overseas
Association (GOA) is facing membership problems. The number of members
has dwindled down to about 700 from at least more than a 1000 some
years ago.

So, what is the way forward? Is George's suggestions valid in the
context of what the GOA is facing?

The GOA has tried and keeps on trying to have all kinds of events and
initiatives to make the young Goans aware of Goan culture and
heritage. Is is having little or no effect.

I was told that the Viva Goa soccer tournament had two Punjabi teams

The prospect of GOA shutting down is staring in its face. The
membership now has mostly patrons and life members. The number of
these two groups is getting less with deaths.

It's sad but true that Goan associations everywhere face the same
problem of survival.

== == ==

My two cents worth and this relates only to Goan Associations Overseas.

In random order:

1: Every organisation depends upon the young folks participating, and
taking the lead.

2: It appears that whenever somebody tries to take the lead or
organise a function, someone comes and blows that function apart.  Let
us, if we can, take the example of last year's Goan function in
Toronto. Despite ALL the good work done by those who participated,
just look at the damage done by a set of scurrilous (IMHO) articles
plastered all over GoaNet about two of the main organisers of that
function + the totally unnecessary "introduction" (for want of a
better word) of the couple's daughter. Did the alleged journalist even
bother to speak to the couple involved?

3: What are the chances that this couple and their children (and other
Goans involved in the organisation of that event) will participate in
the organisation of any future Goan events.

4: What are the chances that ANY other self respecting and respected
Goan in Toronto will take such an undertaking after that absolutely
disgraceful attack on the couple?

5: If there was a problem with the organisation of that function,
could it NOT have been dealt with internally FIRST?

6: Is it too much to ask that the person who writes this 'tabloid'
stuff, asks all the key players before writing?

7: What was the idea? To build the Goan organisation ..or to break it down?

I will omit at this time the type of chicannery which went on when the
Lion hearted Rene Baretto tried to develop Goans International. We got
wind of this undercurrent ONLY through two misdirected emails (reached
us accidentaly instead of just circulating in the Goan
cyber-underground).  To his credit, Rene continues giving his 110% to
the cause.

8: Goans must accept that imposing 'Goan culture' and this 'S-Konkani'
will NOT work with the young Goans. If the parents speak in One
Konkani and the children are taught this different Konkani . it
will just be another subject to learn and forget like Sanskrit and
Latin.

9: In general, I believe that educated Goans have lost the personal
civility that educated  Goans displayed a few decades ago. It is
almost that - after a few drinks - we are gone hunting. I do not see
us impressing the youth with this type of Goan culture. They might as
well look elsewhere.

10: As a young person, I would love to go back home to Goa. It was
clean, quiet and peaceful. Sure the only lights we had in the
villages, were the odd Alladin lamps, several Petromaxes, the Oil
lamps and the fire flies. But it was Home without this destructive
concretization, corruption choas and filth. Why would any overseas
young person want to travel to Goa except to see the grand-parents and
remaining relatives?

11: When one goes to a Goan function, what kind of music does one
hear? A fake, disaffinado version of some old Portuguese tune or some
Bhangra music. Do tell me what it is in the music that will attract
overseas Goans .in terms of Classic and well conducted music in
the league of Maestro Antonio Figueiredo? (The good Victor
Rangel-Ribeiro's recent stint having been noted)

12: As young Goans travel and live abroad, they are likely to meet
young people in the communities they live. They are likely to develop
relationships there and marry there. That is beneficial mixing of the
gene pool. Imagine the gene pool if people from Carabolim (where we
hail from) married only others from Carambolim ...and so on. The
important thing to ask is the following: Are we displaying the
decency, class and civility in our inter-personal relationships
enough to attract the non-Goan spouses of our children towards
Goan culture? .

For now 

jc


[Goanet] Talking Photos: Basilica of Bom Jesus, Se Cathedral & Golden Bell

2009-08-26 Thread JoeGoaUk


   August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary



Talking Photos: Basilica of Bom Jesus, Se Cathedral & Golden Bell
 
Basilica of Bom Jesus
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukchurches/3853375449/sizes/l/
 
Se Cathedral
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukchurches/3854165538/sizes/l/
 
'Golden Bell' of Se Cathedral
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukchurches/3853376823/sizes/l/
 
 


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[Goanet] Daily Grook #495

2009-08-26 Thread Francis Rodrigues


   August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary






DAILY GROOK #495
___

ANNOY BOY
___
by Francis Rodrigues



the south korean
has a real seoul,
the northern one
doth hanoi us all!



http://www.KonkaniSongBook.com
Panjim: Pedro Fernandes: Tel.2226642
Furtados, opp. Monginis. Tel.2223278


The Konkani SongBook on Facebook!
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Join the group - free sheet-music, lyrics, updates!


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[Goanet] PAYOLA-FAYOLA.

2009-08-26 Thread Ruby Goes


   August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary



Goanetters,
Corruption-Forruption; not a good look.
If only they listen to the PM!

http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-08-26-voa14.cfm

Jaihind.
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[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (27Aug09)

2009-08-26 Thread alexyz fernandes


   August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary



***  LOANS  ***

"We took a Loan to celebrate Ganesh...Now we need Another for Diwali..."

"I love Festivals"


To enjoy the visual cartoon please visit:   www.alexyztoons.com
Site sponsored by  www.goasudharop.org






Re: [Goanet] Goanet Reader: Life, as it was then... in Karachi (by Lt Gen E.A.Vas, PVSM)

2009-08-26 Thread johncdrr


   August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary



Interesting bit of information.

john-carmo


 Goanet Reader wrote:
> LIFE, AS IT WAS THEN... IN KARACHI
>
> By Lt. Gen. EA Vas, PVSM
>
> I was born on May 15, 1923 in Karachi, a small port with a
> cosmopolitan population: a majority of Sindhi Muslims, many
> Sindhi Hindus, some Hindus from elsewhere in India, a few
> Christians and Parsis, and a sprinkling of Jews.



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[Goanet] Goa news for August 27, 2009

2009-08-26 Thread Goanet News Service


   August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary



Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** No need to invoke Epidemic Act in Goa... - Press Trust of
India
ess Trust of IndiaPanaji, Aug 25 (PTI) Goa Health Minister
Vishwajit Rane today said there was no need to invoke Epidemic
Act in the state in view of swine flu scare. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://www.ptinews.com/news/248335_No-need-to-invoke-Epidemic-Act-in-Goa--Health-Minister&usg=AFQjCNGxS6swIvg2JEKoYw0X9n0QWiGEUQ

*** Ujjwala Raut's estranged hubby can st... - Times of India
ndia-order-to-supermodels-british-hubby-halted_100237884.html&usg=AFQjCNH1IV0IjktHI3xjdZTSZ0u6fQtcdw">'Leave
India' order to supermodel's British hubby halted
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/4933923.cms&usg=AFQjCNFuSuKRs7tXo44obMDflC5T-u0Umg

*** Indian navy grounds Sea Harrier fight... - RIA Novosti
rounds-Sea-Harrier-fleet-after-crash/articleshow/4933870.cms&usg=AFQjCNHiR5d3Fxup_1au6Z_CHO5nU_xwvQ">Navy
grounds Sea Harrier fleet after crash
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20090826/155930716.html&usg=AFQjCNHDkG0cm8rXHStS6ld8tPHl0Z6_RA

*** Goan minister flayed for statements - Times of India
mes of IndiaKARWAR: Different Kannada organizations in Karwar
have condemned former Union minister from Goa, Ramakant Khalap,
for his reported statement that urged for ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/city/hubli/Goan-minister-flayed-for-statements-/articleshow/4929939.cms&usg=AFQjCNGgF8BkH7xoRPwl7E7tl6CzCQXHnw

*** From the 'Goa' front - IndiaGlitz
diaGlitzThe team of 'Goa' are just returned to Chennai. They
have been to Malaysia for the shoot and they are back after
completing 70% of the movie. ...http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/article/49324.html&usg=AFQjCNFHsaZEQ1mxT3I11zC4vNtlasG5fw

*** Gold and booty: Goa opens smuggling m... - AFP
ff point on the drug-fuelled hippie trail in the 1960s and
1970s. ...http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5j8sXpOrXnbJ9fi2v6am08HNL0JIw&usg=AFQjCNFFX2Am4pwr302gLmKdpCruCKRsNA

*** HSRP issue: Transport strike on Monday - Times of India
heeler pilots, will observe a one-day token strike on Monday,
...
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/city/goa/HSRP-issue-Transport-strike-on-Monday/articleshow/4938935.cms&usg=AFQjCNFnr27GI18Dt0BdCUDe9tUuol3ReQ

*** Mahindra Great Escape celebrates its ... - Wheels Unplugged
- Indis'a Automobile Magazine
Indis'a Automobile MagazineThe Mahindra Great Escape, one of
India's most loved off-roading adventures recently celebrated
its Golden Jubilee in Goa. A total of 72 Mahindra suvs ...http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://www.wheelsunplugged.com/ViewNews.aspx?newsid=4139&usg=AFQjCNEz0eZBNJDogaCXJaQortaPGnXY6g

*** Hariprasad's 'visit' churns rumour mills - Times of India
mes of IndiaPANAJI: AICC general secretary BK Hariprasad in
charge of Goa and AICC secretary Rajeev Shukla are likely to
arrive in Goa on Saturday to attend a ...http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/city/goa/Hariprasads-visit-churns-rumour-mills/articleshow/4938964.cms&usg=AFQjCNEYcjhOhjjf9ACZ_LHdpo2o5hKXtg

*** India Bonds Up As Traders Look Beyond... - Wall Street
Journal
ll Street Journal"The state loan cutoffs were pretty much in
line although Goa's cutoff yield was slightly higher than
expectations," said a dealer with a private bank. ...http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20090825-707477.html&usg=AFQjCNEgHLsFzgMF0ckkEcNBnbASU3-y3w


Compiled by Goanet News Service
http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php


[Goanet] Why we believe in lies?

2009-08-26 Thread Mario Goveia


   August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary



Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 18:25:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gilbert Lawrence 

Goanet sees some endless discussion about some event in history or belief. Here 
is an article by a medical writer in Newsweek that may provide answers / 
explanation why some people believe in lies.  A short relevant paragraph is 
posted below. Readers are encouraged to read the entire article, the link to 
which is provided.

Regards, GL

=
http://www.newsweek.com/id/213625?from=rss

Excerpt:

Some people form and cling to false beliefs about health-care reform (or 
Obama's citizenship) despite overwhelming evidence thanks to a mental 
phenomenon called motivated reasoning, says sociologist Steven Hoffman, 
visiting assistant professor at the University at Buffalo. "Rather than search 
rationally for information that either confirms or disconfirms a particular 
belief," he says, "people actually seek out information that confirms what they 
already believe." And God knows, in the Internet age there is no dearth of 
sources to confirm even the most ludicrous claims (my favorite being that the 
moon landings were faked). "For the most part," says Hoffman, "people 
completely ignore contrary information" and are able to "develop elaborate 
rationalizations based on faulty information."
[end of excerpt]

Mario observes:

The "relevant paragraph" is hardly a promising insight to the rest of the 
article.  Nor is the peculiar suggestion by Gilbert that "some people believe 
in lies".  Does anyone consciously "believe in lies"?  Or is what some people 
believe construed by people like Gilbert as "lies"?

My response simply picks key attitudinal clues from Gilbert's post.  If I find 
other aspects in the article worthy of comment I will do so separately.

Writing an article in NEWSWEEK - which openly supports President Hussein and 
his government-run health care system in its editorials - citing "Some people 
form and cling to false beliefs about health-care reform (or Obama's 
citizenship) despite overwhelming evidence..." is a false premise and a 
reflection of an elitist attitude by the author of the article who implies that 
HE knows the "overwhelming evidence" and others do not.  

Poppycock.  Here's why.

1. The vast majority of Americans do not cling to false insinuations about 
Obama's citizenship.  Obama has contributed to those who do by keeping his 
official birth certificate sealed.

2. The vast majority of Americans do not believe the moon landings or the sneak 
attack on 9/11 were faked.

3. The "false beliefs about health care reform" were directly caused by a 
barrage of bald faced falsehoods by President Hussein about the legislation, 
which he was DEMANDING in mid-July be passed in TWO WEEKS before anyone had 
even had a chance to read the legislation.  Then, after people read the bill, 
we found that the details in the drafts of the bill were not what he had been 
telling us.

This is why his popularity is plummeting as people lose trust in his words and 
realize to their horror that he did not have a single legislative or executive 
achievement to his name before he ran for President.

4. The belief in "Death Panels", even though no legislation will call it that, 
was derived from reports from other countries with socialized medicine and how 
they ration care and from the actual Death Panel in the State of Oregon's 
socialized system which refused to pay for a not-so-old woman's chemotherapy 
but offered to pay for her euthanasia.

So, which is the lie, the fact that there is no "Death Panel" mentioned in the 
drafts, or the fact that socialized systems have panels of bureaucrats that can 
sentence hapless patients to death?

http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/2009/08/18/its-all-a-death-panel-the-truth-about-obamacare/

5. The belief that Catholic hospitals and physicians will be forced to provide 
abortion and contraceptive services comes from the fact that there is no 
mention of these services in the bill and no exemption for conscientious 
objectors written into the current drafts.  Courts have previously ruled that 
such exemptions must be specifically written into a health care plan.

So, some will truthfully say that abortion is not mentioned in the drafts, 
while others will just as truthfully point to previous legal precedents.

4. The belief that a government run health care system will be an unmitigated 
disaster is based on the overwhelming evidence of every other government run 
system in the country, from the Post Office to Amtrak to the Ponzi scheme 
called Social Security to Medicare to Medicaid to the VA, none of which are 
self sustaining without increasing amounts of taxpayer funding.  Contributing 
evidence comes to us from the horror stories from  Canada and Britain several 
of which have bee

Re: [Goanet] The Pope's moral blunders on outsourcing S A Aiyar(Times of India)

2009-08-26 Thread Mario Goveia


   August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary



Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:35:49 -0700
From: "isouza" 

There is no need to be a professional economist or politician to know 
what it is dishonest behaviour in economic or political fields. The Holy 
Father will never speak on economics or politics without consulting experts in 
economics and politics...

Mario responds:

Poppycock.  Whether after consultation or not, it is dishonest to pretend to 
address "human development" while harming working people by preaching against 
outsourcing.

Fr. Ivo wrote:

You can see how well the Goan politicians are doing without even S.S.C... They 
would have been successful and really responsible to the Goan people if they 
had followed the principles laid by the Church in her Social Encyclicals...

Mario responds:

Anyone who finds outsourcing beneficial in their business but is not doing so 
because of the Pope is harming his or her business, by definition.

Fr. Ivo wrote:

That is what John Paul II did throughout his life, and the married 
couples are grateful to him. The Youth still remember him.

Mario responds:

This must have been like the blind leading the blind.  I remember John Paul II 
well, because he did not confront the pedophile priest issue until it was too 
little, too late, and was more concerned about the pedophiles than the innocent 
victims who were scarred for life.

Fr. Ivo wrote:

The Holy Father is right, whereas Mario is wrong. Benedict XVI did not 
"end" outsourcing ("if outsourcing were to end"), but "guided" it. Read the 
text before you criticise.

Mario responds:

You have told me what the text said.  If anyone followed his "guidance" at 
their cost, he did not do them any favors, and harmed those who would have 
received the outsourced jobs as well..

Fr. Ivo wrote:

Excerpt:

"...Moreover, the so-called outsourcing of production can weaken the company's 
sense of responsibility towards the stakeholders - namely the workers, the 
suppliers, the consumers, the natural environment and broader society - in 
favour of the shareholders, who are not tied to a specific geographical area 
and who therefore enjoy extraordinary mobility".

Mario responds:

This makes no sense whatsoever.  The shareholders own the company and no other 
"stakeholders" would benefit if it were not for them.  So what if they have 
geographical mobility?  The fact is that they have invested in a particular 
business which has to maximize its resources so that all the "stakeholders" can 
benefit in the long run.

Fr. Ivo wrote:

In short, as I said earlier, "Benedict XVI is not against outsourcing, but 
is appealing to responsibility towards all the stakeholders over mere 
profitability of shareholders"...

Mario responds:

There would be no successful "stakeholders" without successful "shareholders" 
making "mere" profits.

Memo to Goanetters:  Please note that Fr. Ivo and Pope's JP II and Benny have 
never had to make anything so crass as "mere" profits.  So they can BS to their 
hearts content and pretend as if they know something about economics.  This 
whole encyclical proves otherwise.

Fr. Ivo wrote:

The Vatican is not hampering business, but helping it to go the right 
way...

Mario responds:

As a businessman myself, the Vatican can PLEASE keep it's "guidance" to itself 
and use it in any businesses it owns.  Listening to their non-expert advice 
would hamper my business.

Fr. Ivo wrote:

Unfortunately the Church cannot do it. Let her do what she is doing at 
present...

Mario responds:

Poppycock.  If they can provide "guidance" to businesses they can do the same 
to governments.  If they followed my advice more people and more "stakeholders" 
would benefit, which would also mean more donations for you and them:-))  
Remember this.  The more profits businessmen make the better for all you 
Padres.  Where do you think your donations come from?

Fr. Ivo wrote:

Service is the key-word for every business company. Let them do it 
correctly and help those who are in need. The Church refuses to accept 
"black money" from the "dishonest stewards"...

Mario responds:

We don't need the Vatican to tell us that service is the key to our businesses. 
 That's like telling us that the sun rises in the East.  Very interesting but 
we knew that already.

How does someone who has never run a business know what is "correct"?

If you think the Church does not accept money from "dishonest stewards" you 
know even less than I thought.  The biggest individual donors to the Church in 
Italy as well as the USA are Mafia Dons.  They think they are buying advance 
tickets to good seats in the next world:-))



























[Goanet] Talking Photo: The Mayor, MP & MLA

2009-08-26 Thread JoeGoaUk


   August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary



Talking Photo: The Mayor, MP & MLA
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk21/3857209605/sizes/l/
 
Po, Naik & Ex.CM


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[Goanet] Konkani cantar sung by Yallapa bassapa

2009-08-26 Thread JoeGoaUk


   August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary



Come on Yallapa,

Vans-mor, aniko yo, Fiu, fiu-fiu

FN, kitem re? That's a Cantar for god's sake.
When was the last time you watched Tiatr?

Quote:
Hi Albert, Nice but very patronising!

Do other regions of India or countries have songs which portray Goans (who 
migrated there) in rather negative stereotypes? Is this free speech, or hate 
speech? FN

Quote:
[Goanet] Konkani cantar sung by Yallapa bassapa

Albert Desouza alizadesouza at hotmail.com 
Sun Aug 23 10:52:15 PDT 2009 

Albert de Souza has composed this song:-
Hanv Yallapa Bassapa Goyeam Konkan railwayin fukott ailam,
Montrean maka ghor ravpak bandun dilam,
Bizli petta, udok borpur, chodd ienam maka billam
Tea bhair amcam ration kard korun dilam, mellonk zai mhonn apleak votam

2
Goyemkarachea ghorant bizli ieta veta, 
Amchea ghorant ti sodanch assa
Goyekarank chodd udok mellona, 
Amcam udok borpur sodanch

3. Goyemkar khup xiktat, punn sirveso mellonk khontin
   Amche bhurge matric keli mhonntoch bitor getat amchem montri
   Vochot tea departmentan assa amcho kaka ou kaki
   Ami yallapa sodanch sukhi 
4. 
Fuddlea elisanvank astolo amcho sarpanch ou montri
Amche bhurge atam xhiktat tumchi konkani
Tumi sodanch tastat ti firgim baxhi
Punn ami konkani xhikon voir kaddtam avoi tumchi


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[Goanet] Ted Kennedy Dead

2009-08-26 Thread Mario Goveia


   August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary



Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 04:00:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gilbert Lawrence 

Likely?most goanetters may know the sad news on the passing away of Senator 
Edward Kennedy from his Brain tumor.

This death and that of many others, destroys the myth commonly heard, "In 
America today, death is an option"

Mario responds:

If death in America was an option wouldn't the life span be much higher?  
Besides, isn't a "commonly heard myth" an oxymoron?

I have lived in America for 38 years with and among physicians and have never 
heard anyone say, "In America today, death is an option".

Any American who says anything like this would need their head examined or be 
in a straitjacket already.

However, there are some advantages to living in America:

http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba649

As far as Ted Kennedy was concerned, the American expertise he received by all 
accounts is why he lived far longer than his initial diagnosis and prognosis 
indicated.

May his tortured soul rest in peace.






[Goanet] Funeral Arrangements- Oliver Abranches

2009-08-26 Thread Dr.Joyce D'Souza-(wananchi.com)


   August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary




It is with deep regret and sorrow that we announce the death of OLIVER 
ABRANCHES of Mombasa, Kenya, 
that occurred at the Mombasa hospital at 5am this morning ,Tuesday 25th August 
2009.

He was the loving husband to Brenda Abranches

Loving father to Ashley & Beverly.

Bother to Pufi, Clarence(Nairobi), Lashu, Bernadette , Demetrius, Pricilla & 
Gabriel (Canada)

FUNERAL ARRANGEMENTS:

Date: Saturday 29th August 2009

Time:  2.30 pm viewing of the body 
3.00 pm Holy Mass

Venue: Holy Ghost Cathedral, Mombasa

Burial: After mass at the Mbaraki cemetery

Condolence messages can be sent to :
  
brenabranc...@hotmail.com

For and on behalf of the Brenda Abranches & Family

Joyce


Re: [Goanet] RadioGoa Application on Facebook

2009-08-26 Thread rene barreto


   August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary



Goemkars - Please share this post : 

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From: Benedict Lobo 
To: Benedict Lobo 
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 5:35:18 PM
Subject: RadioGoa Application on Facebook


Ladies & Gentlemen, Boys & Girls
 
The Beta release which was launched on 20th Aug being an auspicious day for 
Konkani, 
which is also celebrated as World Goa Day is now ready for public 
release.Facebook  has 
become the next big thing on the internet today.Those of you who are on it can 
install the 
app at http://apps.facebook.com/radiogoa
 
Listen to the live Konkani stream (to my knowledge this is the only live radio 
stream from 
India so far on facebook)  while you browse FB.Send dedications to friends of 
the now playing 
song,  dedicate special songs,send goan gifts and much much more.
 
So see you on facebook
 
 
 Sodanch Mog Asundi (Ekamekacho ani Konknicho)
Benedict
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VIVA GOA - Crystal Palace :  29.8.2009 : 
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together we have made it happen 

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Re: [Goanet] Goan associations

2009-08-26 Thread Eugene Correia


   August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary



As regards Goan associations, even the Toronto-based Goan Overseas Association 
(GOA) is facing membership problems. The number of members has dwindled down to 
about 700 from at least more than a 1000 some years ago. I was told that at the 
boat cruise event for youth, most of the youth were non-members. When a 
committee member asked them why they are not becoming members the person was 
told that they would rather prefer to attend the events than become full-time 
members.
The events hosted and organized by the GOA are either losing money or just 
breaking even. The association is facing financial constraints but continues to 
put on a bold face. The future does not look bright. 
Besides the second- or third-generation Goans not becoming members, they are 
only bringing about an early death of GOA. It is sad scenario but there is 
little the committee can do.
I was told that the Viva Goa soccer tournament had two Punjabi teams. The 
six-a-side inter-village tournament, which was part of the Viva Goa 
celebrations, was supposed to promote Goan talent. Why the tournament was 
opened to outside teams is beyond me. It is my understanding that the sports 
committee was making its own rules. It was also found that the committee was 
discrimanatory. It permitted outside teams but would not allow one team to have 
non-GOam members play for it.
I think a couple of years ago, non-Goans were made "instant" GOA members on 
payment of 25 dollars. Most of them never renewed their memberships after the 
tournament. I can understand if the tournament is "invitational" and non-Goan 
teams are allowed to participate. 
The executive committee is finding it hard to find ways to solve the membership 
issue. Most of the Goans who migrated from the Middle East have kept away from 
the association. They have found their own group or groups and seem quite 
content with it.
So, what is the way forward? Is George's suggestions valid in the context of 
what the GOA is facing? The GOA has tried and keeps on trying to have all kinds 
of events and initiatives to make the young Goans aware of Goan culture and 
heritage. Is is having little or no effect. The prospect of GOA shutting down 
is staring in its face. The membership now has mostly patrons and life members. 
The number of these two groups is getting less with deaths.
It's sad but true that Goan associations everywhere face the same problem of 
survival.

Eugene Correia



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Re: [Goanet] Ted Kennedy Dead

2009-08-26 Thread Carvalho


   August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary



One of the true great liberals of Western democracy has passed away.

Best,
selma


--- On Wed, 8/26/09, Gilbert Lawrence  wrote:
> 
> Likely most goanetters may know the sad news on the
> passing away of Senator Edward Kennedy from his Brain
> tumor.
> 
> This death and that of many others, destroys the myth
> commonly heard, "In America today, death is an option"
> 
> Regards, GL
> 
> 
>       
> 

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[Goanet] Talking Photos: Some Goa Pics

2009-08-26 Thread JoeGoaUk


   August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary



Talking Photos: Some Goa Pics

 
Where is this?
(Clue: Outside Panjim)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk21/3779469279/sizes/l/
 
Madde Hube
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk21/3773500184/sizes/l/
 
Bhaiya’s Pau-Bhaji at Panjim
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk21/3792273369/sizes/l/
 
New Goa Police Patrol Boat
(earlier they used ordinary motorized canoe)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk21/3796068094/sizes/l/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk21/3788930195/sizes/l/
 
Boats and boatmen
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk21/3789995720/sizes/o/
 
Casino Pride’s permanent Station or dock?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk21/3793091832/sizes/l/  Aug 2009
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3498934394/sizes/l/  May 2009
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk5/2536657045/sizes/l/    May 2008
 
Bannauleche rashiche nal
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk21/3795249587/sizes/l/
Agxichim addsoram
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk20/3727695780/sizes/l/
 
A dog in the bush (Green and White)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk21/3796070526/sizes/l/
 
Pick up any one for Rs50-150
(offer nowarranty)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk21/3812851880/sizes/l/
 
Crows –Air Show
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk21/3812039813/sizes/l/
 
Railways tracks in front of an old house
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk21/3816781457/sizes/l/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk21/3817592852/sizes/l/

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[Goanet] Craft... from the coconut

2009-08-26 Thread Frederick Noronha


   August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary



Check some photos depicting the amazing work done in coconut craft by
Vijaydatt Lotlikar (who works at a school in Moira and resides in Parra):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/sets/72157622150617124/
If you know of any useful online links related to coconut craft, kindly pass
them on via Goanet. Thanks! FN
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[Goanet] Greetings !!

2009-08-26 Thread percy ferrao


   August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary



Happy 15th anniversary Goanet
 
Percy Ferrao
Harrow Road, London


  


Re: [Goanet] Abdul Kalam's Letter to every Indian

2009-08-26 Thread Mario Goveia


   August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary



Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:55:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Anthony M Barreto 

Abdul Kalam: "I was in Tel Aviv once and I was reading the Israeli newspaper. 
It was the day after a lot of attacks and bombardments and deaths had taken 
place. The Hamas had struck. But the front page of the newspaper had the 
picture of a Jewish gentleman who in five years had transformed his desert into 
an orchid and a granary."

Tony: Not a bad achievement to match the Hamas. But I think the Tel Aviv sub 
lacked in news sense. If that happens in India the sub and the chief sub on the 
night shift will get the kick and rightly so because a newspaper is supposed to 
be objective in its job.

Mario observes:

I agree with Tony here.  Perhaps the Israelis are just too numb after 62 years 
of relentless attacks.

Abdul Kalam: "In India we only read about death, sickness, terrorism, crime."

Tony: In India we read about death, sickness, terrorism, crime because that is 
the primary concern here. In health care, where is the system? And it is not 
just about international terrorism. In fact it is more about internal warfare.

Mario observes:

Kalam is wrong based on my observations.  Newspapers everywhere lead with 
articles about "death, sickness, terrorism, crime..."  American journalists 
have a well known saying about what gets reported first, "If it bleeds, it 
leads."

Abdul Kalam: "Take a person on his way to Singapore. Give him a name - ?YOURS?. 
Give him a face - ?YOURS?."

Tony: Singapore and Dubai have rulers and administrators who are serious about 
the rules of their countries. If I know I cannot bribe an RTA Officer I will 
dare not try. But if I know I will never get the licence without a bit of 
compromise on my beloved Dubai and Singapore ideals I will be compelled to 
chose the Indian way to spare myself the harrassment and agony of going against 
a treasured tradition of the country.

Mario responds:

Tony is correct about Singapore and Dubai, which are also tiny city states and 
dictatorships with little tolerance for bad civic behavior. However, Tony left 
out the rest of what Kalam said in this segment, which included London and 
Washington, Australia and NZ. The civic behavior Kalam mentioned was the focus 
of my post:
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/182239.html

The kind of civic behavior mentioned is also commonplace in the western 
democracies and in Taiwan and Thailand.  This is what India and Indians need to 
work on in my opinion: a sense of personal civic responsibility, which is 
largely lacking in India.  Just take the lack of consideration on the roads and 
it is the same attitude everywhere.

Abdul Kalam: "What does a system consist of? Very conveniently for us it 
consists of our neighbours, other households, other cities, other communities 
and the government. But definitely not me and YOU."

Tony: Well I would recommend Dr Kalam something as simple as trying to get a 
birth certificate from Panjim as a resident of Canacona to get a taste of how 
impossible the system can be for somebody who is too stupid to stubbornly stick 
to his avowed principles.

Mario observes:

Tony is correct about how it works in India - people feel they have no choice 
but to go along and do whatever is necessary just to get done what would be 
routine in most developed countries where civic sense and consideration for 
others is the norm and small time corruption is minimal or even non-existent.

Tony concludes:

Dr Kalam or for that matter anyone else with a gift for words could use his pen 
to make an equally compelling case with as much rhetoric to suggest that the 
Indian political system has gone to the dogs beyond a point of salvation. And 
that it is certainly sensible to shut up and endure it as best as and as long 
as one can.

Mario responds:

I hope Tony is wrong when he says "the Indian political system has gone to the 
dogs beyond a point of salvation." though I can see why he thinks so, and it 
obviously seems that way to anyone who has to deal with the system in India on 
a day-to-day basis.

I have been disappointed that other Indian leaders have not made an issue of 
civic behavior, so I was surprised to see that Kalam had done so, but without 
any follow up or interest shown by other leaders, Tony's sad conclusion may 
well be the correct one.

The opinion leaders on Goanet have been concentrating on other issues which may 
be more important in the scheme of things.












[Goanet] Muslim ‘Terrorists’ Manufactured by the Media | TwoCircles.net

2009-08-26 Thread Herald Editor



  August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary



Food for thought?

http://twocircles.net/2009aug26/muslim_terrorists_manufactured_media.html

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Editor, Herald
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Panjim, Goa - 403001
Tel: (0832) 2224202, 2224460, 2228083
Direct Line: 2433373, Fax: 475
Email: edi...@herald-goa.com
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[Goanet] Hans Papia Hans

2009-08-26 Thread Goa World


   August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary



HANSKUTLEO



Dotor: Anink don voramni tum mortolo. Morchea adim tuka konnakui mellonk zai?

Piddest: Vhoi dotor.

Dotor: Konnank?

Piddest: Eka borea dotorak.



Poilo Cheddo: Tea cheddvak borem aikunk iena dista.

Dusro cheddo: Kiteak mhonnttai tum?

Poilo Cheddo: Hanvem taka I Love you mhollem ani tem mhaka aplea zoteancho 
number
zanna kai mhonn vicharta.



Juiz: Tuka loz disona re? Tisre pavtt tuka hanv korttan polletam.

Chor: Juiz saiba, tuka loz dista? Tum tor sodanch korttan ieta.



July 2009 JIVIT masikachea upkaran



Lapitt






[Goanet] New 3 bhk flat available for rent at Margao

2009-08-26 Thread borg costa


   August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary



3 bhk flat available for rent at Borda -Margao. Rent Rs. 12,000/-
 
If interested pls write me.
 
Thks,
 
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Re: [Goanet] Abdul Kalam's Letter to every Indian

2009-08-26 Thread Bosco D'Mello


   August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary



-Original Message-
From: Mario Goveia

> Now I find a speech by the brilliant but tonsorially-challenged ex-President
> Abdul Kalam that did just that back in January, 2009, which somehow none of
> our Indian Goanetters found of enough interest to post here:
>
> http://randomthougts101.blogspot.com/2009/01/letter-to-every-indian-apj-abdul-kalam.html
>
> Excerpt:

> Take a person on his way to Singapore. Give him a name - 'YOURS'. Give him a 
> face - 'YOURS'.
>
> YOU walk out of the airport and you are at your International best. In 
> Singapore 
> you don't
> throw cigarette butts on the roads or eat in the stores.


RESPONSE: This is another hoax article unless the date and location of the 
original 
publication of this piece is provided or if this was a speech, the date and 
place 
where it was made.

Another bout of hollow jingoism!! I doubt the thorough gentleman, Abdul Kalam 
would 
address his fellow citizens as above.

- B 




Re: [Goanet] Who is REALLY running India?

2009-08-26 Thread Bosco D'Mello


   August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary



-Original Message-
From: Mario Goveia

> 10. Kerala is the only 100% Literate State in India .

RESPONSE: The Govt of Kerala website states as per the 2001 Indian Census, 
literacy 
was at 90.92% [1]


> 12. The last Indian representative to the Miss Universe contest was also a 
> Keralite

RESPONSE: #1 - Ekta Chowdhry is from Kerala
#2 - Who watches beauty pageants in the 21st century???


> Hats Off to Kerala

RESPONSE: Down with plagiarism!!!

- B



[1]  http://www.kerala.gov.in/education/status.htm





[Goanet] Goanet's 15 years of existence.

2009-08-26 Thread Tony de Sa


   August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary



As Maurice D'Mello suggests, let us for a change carry out a worthwhile
project on Goanet to celebrate its 15 years rather than use this wonderful
medum for non productive purposes. My suggestion : Let us create a 'Hall of
Fame' for eminent Goans. Let Goanetters decide on the criteria for including
a name to this list. Suggestions for inclusion of names should also include
reasons for inclusion. Let there be a panel to finalize the list. This could
be put up on the goanet.org website.
Am I expecting too much from the respected members of this forum or can we
for once rise to the occasion and show that we can carry out a worthwhile
and useful project - a sort  of Goanet Wiki.
Could some netters volunteer to form the panel? I would be very willing to
collate the names which are suggested.
Netters are free to modify or outright reject this proposal. If you in your
wisdom decide to reject it, then please suggest an alternative. Let us be
positive.
Cheers
-- 
Tony de Sa
Ph: +91 832 2470 148
M: +91 9975162897
E:  tonyd...@gmail.com

In a world without fences, who needs Gates?


[Goanet] Alfred and Rolly.

2009-08-26 Thread eric pinto


   August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary



    Thank you, Alfred, for allowing us into the inner sanctums, making us privy 
to those tender old memories : one is filled with envy. Those were the days, 
then, and it is nice to relive the moments, I am glad I played my part in 
evoking some of the mellowness of the times.
  Good old Roland, what would we do without him !   We were proud of our 
'hockey' field, but he did not splice my shins. So he gets my Piedmont rye, in 
all its proof, even as our old friend Kevin is tempted to suggest propofol.   
Best, to you all.  Eric.


From: Alfred de Tavares 

[Goanet] Child Art competition results and pictures

2009-08-26 Thread Sandeep Heble


   August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary



Dear all,

Following are the results of the Child Art competition held on 26th
August at Shree Mahalaxmi Temple Hall, Panaji-Goa during the "Panaji
Ganeshotsav 2009" festival programme.

Photographs at:
http://tinyurl.com/l53p2j

or at

http://picasaweb.google.co.in/sandeepheble/PanajiGaneshotsav2009#

Sub Juniors(9 years and below)

1st Prize - Shriya Tarkar
2nd Prize - Raghav Kshirsagar
3rd Prize - Tanusha Paraz

Consolation Prizes:
Kenneth Rodrigues,
Jonathan Vaz,
Harsh Rataboli,
Gautami Rao and
Vaibhavi Kulkarni


Juniors(10 to 15 years)

1st Prize - Pranav Khadpe
2nd Prize - Pauras Narvekar
3rd Prize - Gaurav Chatribin
Special Prize: Eesha Tarcar

Consolation Prizes:
Sunand Saha,
Ankita Usgaokar,
Pallavi Malkarnekar,
Shikha Dessai and
Simran Sirsat
Mamta Prajapat

The Prize distribution shall be held on 30th August at 12 pm. Republic
Day Child Art Competition prizes shall also be distributed on this
day.

yours sincerely
Sandeep Heble
Programme coordinator


[Goanet] Fantasies of the past ?

2009-08-26 Thread Antonio Menezes


   August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary



A Goanet reader from Portugal writing to me privately states that i should
not
indulge unnecessarily in fantasies namely past misdeeds of casteist leaders
of our society.  Of course, whatever i write , and which he does not agree
with,
immediately becomes fantasies.  Further that we should forget our past and
move on.

I certainly agree with him that we  should look towards the future but at
the same
time we cannot ignore past misdeeds.  They have to be kept in proper
perspective..  After all, what is history ? Is it not remembrance of the
past,both
good and bad, deeds ?

Antonio


Re: [Goanet] Would anyone have Konkani words for the following?

2009-08-26 Thread Carvalho


   August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary





--- On Tue, 8/25/09, Frederick Noronha  wrote:

FN, to the best of my knowledge let me respond.

Engagement: mudi (forgive my spelling they are all phonetic)

Creativity: No particular word. In salcete we borrow from the Portuguese word, 
"part" and will say he/she has that "part" roughly translated to 
inclination/aptitude.

Interaction: Again no word in Salcete, borrowed from Portuguese - mixture.

Mobilisation: Again no word, borrowed from Portuguese, commese.

Connecting people: Will use the word "sogle munis"

Participatory: Again "sogle munis"

Accessible: No word. Closest would be "vat aha"

Inspired: kalzant sonne

Sharing: Sogle bitor

Cooperation: Sogle bitor

Action: Commece

Change: Mudance, mudar

In Salcete atleast I'm sure all of these are derivatives from another language. 
Also, we are very smart like the French. When we don't have a word, we make one 
up by putting together two or three older words.

Best,
selma


  


[Goanet] 5 Simple Ways to Increase Your Intelligence - PickTheBrain | Motivation and Self Improvement

2009-08-26 Thread Con Menezes


   August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary




Goanetters,

Five simple ways to make the most of your intelligence.

Con


http://www.pickthebrain.com/blog/5-simple-ways-to-make-the-most-of-your-intelligence/


Re: [Goanet] Written by a Pakistani journalist about India

2009-08-26 Thread Edward Verdes



  August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary



And heres the latest

India a step closer to making own carrier

KOCHI: The Navy's long-standing dream of operating two powerful carrier 
battle groups (CBGs),
to project power as well as act as a stabilizing influence in the entire 
Indian Ocean Region and beyond,
took a big step closer to reality on Saturday, with the keel of the first 
indigenous aircraft carrier

(IAC) being laid at the Cochin Shipyard here.


It's a crucial milestone, which will transform India into an aircraft 
carrier-building nation.
The IAC, to be delivered in 2014, will enhance the Navy's blue-water 
capabilities.
We hope to operate two-three carriers simultaneously in the not-to-distant 
future,'' said defence minister A K Antony.


Navy chief Admiral Sureesh Mehta, in turn, said, "With this programme, India 
has joined a select group of just four nations
(US, Russia, UK and France) capable of designing and building a 40,000-tonne 
aircraft carrier.''


Source: 
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/India-a-step-closer-to-making-own-carrier/articleshow/4205577.cms


Eddie Verdes



- Original Message - 
From: "Samir Kelekar" <>

Reposted from inter...@yahoogroups.com; this could be a good retort
to Abdul Kalam!

samir





Written by a Pakistani journalist about India [MUST READ]

Capital suggestion
By Dr Farrukh Saleem

Here's what is happening in India: 




Re: [Goanet] Toechee Economics.

2009-08-26 Thread Alfred de Tavares


   August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary




Eric, old chap...

Do you veridicously want us to believe that the genteel, well -mannered, spoken,
scholarly, Rolly, was such a goonish bully in his tender years?

You did, indeed, inform us earlier that a painful, as well as sartorially 
prejudical
kick, upon some spot of your anatomy, also continues to badger your memory...

Has he improved/mellowed with age or, do you still maintain cautious distance 
when 
you´ll meet? Perhaps you judicially avoid such a contigence...

Along with curiosity goes also an apprehensive trepidation because I wish to 
call on 
him in the course of my (last?) grand tour...

After all, we have grown up addressing his dear Mamma & uncles & aunts as 
"Prima...
Primo..."

I will take chances, as is usual with me, throwing caution to the Missisauga 
winds &
descend upon my sweet "Priminho...", amply padded around posterior & shins, as 
we
were wont to do when peremptorilly summoned to face a wrathfull Fr. Mário 
Meyrelles,
after some quetionable petty demeanour or other...

One I painfully remember is pretty severe physical admonishment receive with a 
thick
ruller, about which nothing was fair, after having, harmlessly, vaulted over 
the Fatima
convent wall, on a romantically moonlit eve, when the little angels used to 
romp during
their pre-slumber outing...with no other intent than holding a wee palm or 
two...

Their, none too soft giggles & thiters fetched a stern Sister who along with an 
sterner
accolyte, insisted on escorting me to Fr. M. M. even at that, relatively, 
advanced hour...

The ferocity of the ensuing ordeals that freely rained upon the tender spots of 
my
young body ... I leave to your conjecture...

Suffice it that the ordeals my adored one would merrit a great deal lessened my 
torture;
though, I never learnt the degree of its intensity because the little humbug 
refused to
speak even a word to me ad jeunésse infinituum...

Alfred


> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 18:37:18 -0700
> From: mervynal...@yahoo.ca
> To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Toechee Economics.
> 

> 
> eric pinto wrote:
> > Currency is a necessary inconveniece for most nations. It makes for an 
> > orderly 
> > distribution of goods and services, and allows for a little extra to those 
> > who are 
> > willing to work a little harder. Tax policy decides on the level of the 
> > little extra. 
> > Get greedy, and the misgotten send the likes of Mao, Obama and George 
> > Fernandes to Parliament.
> > ps. Higher economics - Roland owes me 11 cents for the wood spinrope tops 
> > he 
> > splintered, circa 1960.   


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[Goanet] Would anyone have Konkani words for the following?

2009-08-26 Thread JoeGoaUk


   August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary



[Goanet] Would anyone have Konkani words for the following?

engagement

creativity

interaction

mobilisation

connecting people

participatory

accessible

inspired

sharing

cooperation

action

change
==

Here are some from JoeGoaUk’s dictionary
(Any one can use it at their own risk).

Engagement = Soirik, Basaunni, utor
Munxeak utor Ghorvak dayem.

Creativity = Rochna
Ponnje Mala-chea tornatteamchi ‘Arxea kuddkiamcho Gonnpoti’, 
hi ek bhes bori rochna asli.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk21/3857924828/sizes/l/

Interaction = Bhasa-bhas
Aizkal, Goyant, chodd xim bilam bhasa-bhas zainastona pas zatat kai kitem?


Mobilization
(no entry yet)

connecting people = nokia  (Mellounni)
Goanet Goem toxech pordhesant aslelea Goemkarant melloita

participatory = bhag gheupa sarki
Tech tech monis Igorz nagoun khatat.
‘Igorjechim bhattam-bhensam’ ho vixoi sogleamni bhag gheupa sarko asa.

accessible = Porvangi
Ghor mhojem choi punn dar foddinaka (Here door is not accessible)

inspired = Suchounni
Kerkar’s cartoons were ‘Dev Suchounni’ (inspired by God)

sharing = Vanttni, vanttop
Aga Montrea, voch ani tuji nagounnechi gireskai goribank vantt 
(share your ill-gotton wealth with others/poor)

cooperation = Bank(Sohokar)
I say,
Mhaka tumcho sohokar zai
Don’t catch me if you can

action = kortub, korni
Rup tujem anjeachem kortub tujem deucharachem

change = mudasao
Come to Goa for ‘Mudacao’



joego...@yahoo.co.uk 

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http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ 

For Goan Video Clips 
http://youtube.com/joeukgoa 

In Goa, Dial  1 0 8 
For Hospital, Police, Fire etc


  



[Goanet] Happy Birthday Goanet and its founder Mr. Herman Carneiro!

2009-08-26 Thread Domnic Fernandes


   August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary



Congratulations Goanet on its 15th anniversary!

I am indebted to Goanet for providing the environment to post my articles, 
which 
ultimately turned into a book - 'Domnic's Goa - A nostalgic romp through a 
bygone 
era.'  I wish Goanet all the best and hope it continues, for a long time, to 
provide 
the Goan Community an environment that allows us to express ourselves.

My hearfelt congratulations and thanks to Mr. Herman Carneiro, the founder of 
Goanet 
for providing us the forum.  Special thanks go to Goanet Admin team without 
whom 
this forum would not run.  Guys, keep up the wonderful work.

Moi-mogan,

Domnic Fernandes
Anjuna, Goa
Mob: 09420979201




Re: [Goanet] Would anyone have Konkani words for the following?

2009-08-26 Thread Frederick Noronha


   August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary



Just to clarify that the terms I'm looking for are political concepts
-- not social ones. As in:

2009/8/26 Frederick Noronha :
> engagement
We need to engage in the battle for free speech agains the
legislatures in India.

> creativity
Campaigns need to be fought on a basis of creativity too.

> interaction
Interaction among different social forces could help build movements.

> mobilisation
The mobilisation in the Right to Information campaign has been impressive.

> connecting people
Mobiles do play a role in connecting people and building campaigns.

> participatory
The social web is known for its participatory approach towards content creation.

> accessible
Politicians in Goa like to believe they are accessible to the
commonman because of the small size of local constituencies.

> inspired
After hearing Archbishop Desmond Tutu's speech on truth and
reconciliation, the audience was indeed inspired.

> sharing
Sharing software is a key paradigm of the Free Software movement.

> cooperation
Citizens' cooperation is crucial in building social capital.

> action
Thought is the precursor to any action.

> change
We all work towards change, but is it positive change?

Best wishes, FN

-- 
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Re: [Goanet] Between Empires... Rochelle Pinto's book

2009-08-26 Thread PEDRO MASCARENHAS


   August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary



Dear Mr. Noronha,

Thank you very much for your em-mails. They very useful for us who live here in 
Portugal.
Regards
Pedro Mascarenhas



On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 8:46 PM, Frederick "FN" Noronha  
wrote:

  BETWEEN EMPIRES: Print and Politics in Goa.
  Rochelle Pinto
  Pp 299 hb Rs 645
  Oxford University Press
  ISBN 9780195690477

  Another aspect that might illuminate the question of Hindu
  Goan subjectivity is the difference in state policy towards
  the Hindus of the Old Conquest, and those of the New 




[Goanet] Ted Kennedy Dead

2009-08-26 Thread Gilbert Lawrence


   August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary



Likely most goanetters may know the sad news on the passing away of Senator 
Edward Kennedy from his Brain tumor.

This death and that of many others, destroys the myth commonly heard, "In 
America today, death is an option"

Regards, GL


  


Re: [Goanet] Would anyone have Konkani words for the following?

2009-08-26 Thread eric pinto


   August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary



   Purists believe that of all India idiom, we have diverged the least from the 
mother Sanskrit. Geography does not limit us, and we use it wherever we happen 
to live, across the length of the huge Indian peninsula. It was only in Goa 
that we shared the language with a local populace who do not share our distant 
origins.
  Science meets its needs for neologisms by turning, more often than not, to 
Greek. Now Greek is considered a perfect hybrid : one half Tamil, the other 
Sanskrit. Tamil arrived on Kriti from the Nile delta, Sanskrit fom the 
Kannan/Ugarit coast, where Jesus spoke a sister Amhara. For a look at early 
Crete, watch the m.ovie 'Zorba the Greek.'
  Todays English blends the French/Phoenician of the the invading Normans of 
Brittany, and the Germanic/Ugric of Anglia and the Frisian islands.
    We are all heavily borrowed/in debt !  eric ( arrik, in Egypt.)

--- On Tue, 8/25/09, Jason Keith Fernandes 

[Goanet] Congratulations to Goa Net on its Silver Jubilee

2009-08-26 Thread MD


   August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary



Subject: [Goanet] Congratulations to Goa Net on its Silver Jubilee

Hi Tony de Sa,

I feel your greetings are timely.  The way things are going on on this
forum, I see nothing worth its while.  We should devote our time to
use this forum to enhance our knowledge by discussing issues
rationally rather than getting personal.

Is there a rule here that a third person should not express his or
her(?) opinion on any thread? Just curious.

DEAR MODERATORS,

CONGRATULATIONS, GoaNet, ON YOUR SILVER JUBILEE

And thank you for putting up with us. How about a New Look GoaNet?

Maurice D'Mello