Re: [HanoiLUG] OpenStreetMap Mapping Party in Hanoi on July

2009-06-19 Hội thoại Truong Anh. Tuan

- Ivan Garcia capisc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 the first OpenStreetMap mapping party in Vietnam will be celebrated in
 Hanoin on Saturday 11 July 2009

What a pity.
All my company will travel to Hoi An that time.

Please do not forget to post pictures.

Kind regards, 
Tuan 
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[HanoiLUG] Hello everyone

2007-01-08 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Hello everyone,

I am Tuan, 33 years old. I live in Hanoi too.
I have just joined with HanoiLUG (following David Tremblay's introduction).

I have used Linux for over 7 years. My favorite distro is Fedora.
Hope I can learn much more and share my experience about Linux and FOSS.
 
Kind regards,
Tuan TRUONG
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From jean-christophe.an...@auf.org  Mon Jan  8 14:33:21 2007
From: jean-christophe.an...@auf.org 
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Date: Mon Jan  8 14:36:36 2007
Subject: [HanoiLUG] Hello everyone
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Truong Anh Tuan a ?crit :
 I am Tuan, 33 years old. I live in Hanoi too.
 I have just joined with HanoiLUG (following David Tremblay's
 introduction).
 I have used Linux for over 7 years. My favorite distro is Fedora.
 Hope I can learn much more and share my experience about Linux and FOSS.
Living in Hanoi and using Linux for 7 years...
So in fact you are already member of HanoiLUG! ;-)

Welcome on board!

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[HanoiLUG] SpamAssassin issue

2007-01-17 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Hello everyone,

Anyone here used SpamAssassin?

I am a newbie in SpamAssassin.
I configured it to mark a mail as spam whenever the score is more than 5.0. 
Now, I would like to configure it to remove all mails with the score is more 
than a higher value (e.g. 10.0).

Please help me (a solution, an article, or anything else). 
Thank you!
 
Kind regards,
Tuan TRUONG
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From da...@roy-tremblay.net  Wed Jan 17 17:06:42 2007
From: da...@roy-tremblay.net (David Tremblay)
Date: Wed Jan 17 17:10:56 2007
Subject: [HanoiLUG] Beer party -- Bia Party before Tet february 9th 2007
Message-ID: 45adf532.5080...@roy-tremblay.net

Dear friends and HanoiLugers

Tet is coming and we would like to have a big party with a lot of food
and beer

It would be february the 9th (friday). We're not sure yet for the place
but please show your interest.

The more people we are the better it is 


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[HanoiLUG] Beer!

2007-01-19 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Hi David,

What a pity!
I will have to prepare for traveling to Asia Source 2 (with David Tremblay) on 
this Sunday.

See you on HanoiLugers' Tet party.
 
Kind regards,
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- Original Message 
From: David Favro hanoi...@meta-dynamic.com
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug@lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:16:46 PM
Subject: [HanoiLUG] Beer!

I know it's the last moment, and I don't mean to take away from the
pre-Tet party, but since I am in Ha Noi, I wonder is anyone interested
in getting together for beers this weekend?  Just for fun and discuss
whatever technical things people like.  I am flexible for time  place.

-- David F.
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From viethangu...@gmail.com  Wed Jan 24 14:27:33 2007
From: viethangu...@gmail.com (Nguyen Viet Ha)
Date: Wed Jan 24 14:32:20 2007
Subject: [HanoiLUG] Need driver for graphic card ATI RADEON M7500!
Message-ID: f2e19b120701232327p3f0d242bq635050c2c47c7...@mail.gmail.com

Dear all!
I'm using Ubuntu 6.10 and I nead driver for my graphic card -ATI RADEON
M7500-. :( I've tried to find but I couldn't find anything.
Pls! Some body help me :)!
Thank a lot!
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From hieu.d.ho...@gmail.com  Thu Jan 25 17:19:10 2007
From: hieu.d.ho...@gmail.com (Hieu Hoang)
Date: Thu Jan 25 17:30:21 2007
Subject: [HanoiLUG] Re: HanoiLUG Digest, Vol 21, Issue 20
In-Reply-To: 20070125050004.49de49...@mail.hanoilug.org
References: 20070125050004.49de49...@mail.hanoilug.org
Message-ID: 4f12b0dd0701250219n60e8bcb6m550dc68b70615...@mail.gmail.com

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Nguyen Viet Ha viethangu...@gmail.com
 To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug@lists.hanoilug.org
 Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:27:33 +0700
 Subject: [HanoiLUG] Need driver for graphic card ATI RADEON M7500!
 Dear all!
 I'm using Ubuntu 6.10 and I nead driver for my graphic card -ATI RADEON
 M7500-. :( I've tried to find but I couldn't find anything.

http://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/3d-desktop-beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-edgy.html
The repository on this page has the driver, xorg-driver-fglrx. The
drver from that repo works with my 1600XT. The guy who wrote that has
an M300, so it should works with yours.

I think this repo has the driver alone, without beryl and stuffs:
deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
It has the same key as the one above.

Hope this helps,
Hieu
From m_cug...@yahoo.fr  Thu Jan 25 21:41:55 2007
From: m_cug...@yahoo.fr (Maximilien Cugnet)
Date: Thu Jan 25 21:46:51 2007
Subject: [HanoiLUG] Re: Need driver for graphic card ATI RADEON M7500!
In-Reply-To: 20070125050004.592679...@mail.hanoilug.org
References: 20070125050004.592679...@mail.hanoilug.org
Message-ID: 45b8c1b3.7050...@yahoo.fr

I think you'll find all the information you need on this page:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver?highlight=%287500%29%7C%28radeon%29

That might help you too:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI

Just one think, I went on the ATI website and didn't find any M7500 
Radeon product. I wonder that  it is just a common 7500 Radeon chipset 
adapted for a laptop. It might be hard to configure. Good luck! ;-)

The documentation from the community is really well done don't hesitate 
to search inside it (text and/or titles): https://help.ubuntu.com/community/

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 Sujet:
 [HanoiLUG] Need driver for graphic card ATI RADEON M7500!
 Expéditeur:
 Nguyen Viet Ha viethangu...@gmail.com
 Date:
 Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:27:33 +0700
 Destinataire:
 Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug@lists.hanoilug.org

 Destinataire:
 Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug@lists.hanoilug.org


 Dear all!
 I'm using Ubuntu 6.10 and I nead driver for my graphic card -ATI RADEON
 M7500-. :( I've tried to find but I couldn't find anything.
 Pls! Some body help me :)!
 Thank a lot!





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From hanoi...@meta-dynamic.com  Fri Jan 26 18:47:31 2007
From: hanoi...@meta-dynamic.com (David Favro)
Date: Fri Jan 26 18:52:41 2007
Subject: [HanoiLUG] Web design gig
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[HanoiLUG] Linux in schools

2007-02-15 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Hi Trung,

I hope we will have chance to discuss more too.
 
Kind regards,
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- Original Message 
From: trung gik trung...@hotmail.com
To: hanoilug@lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 11:32:18 PM
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] Linux in schools

Hi Anh Tuan,

I mean if you do it with real workstation (like IBM, Dell...) these hardware 
is ok. But with our PC, in Vietnam, ex: in my lab we have 6 workstation with 
3 style of hardware. I don't think the Xwindow on these ws can appear as you 
config follow the generic mode. and I think you are in using PXE as 
environment when ws boot, with ol PC we usually use RPL. You know it?

By the way, I don't have ridiculed you, I wonder if you live in Hanoi, If it 
is possible I hope to come your lab for more communication in the near 
future.

Best regards

Giang Trung.


From: Truong Anh Tuan dt...@yahoo.com
Reply-To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug@lists.hanoilug.org
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug@lists.hanoilug.org
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] Linux in schools
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 17:42:11 -0800 (PST)

Hi Trung,

Honestly, I can deploy a K12LTSP system just in 2 hours.
It is surely easy. I believe David Tremblay could also do that.

Please do not laugh. Just look into the fact.

Kind regards,
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- Original Message 
From: trung gik trung...@hotmail.com
To: hanoilug@lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 11:31:02 PM
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] Linux in schools

Hi Anh Tuan,

At the first I also have the same opinion about: easy to manage, cost
effective solution, especially in a school. You can reuse almost your old
PCs. but are you sure about anything you talk in this email? I have an
system which running base on K12 LTSP. But I never can install, config
server and client in two hours as you talk, :D. May be, I'm a lateman...

best regards.

Giang Trung.

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From vu.do.qu...@auf.org  Mon Feb 19 14:12:57 2007
From: vu.do.qu...@auf.org (Vu Do Quynh)
Date: Mon Feb 19 14:13:03 2007
Subject: [HanoiLUG] Linux in schools
In-Reply-To: 45cfd128.9090...@roy-tremblay.net
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hI,

hAPPY nEW yEAR OF THE pIG !

Selon David Tremblay da...@roy-tremblay.net:

 Lois I recommend you to do the following :


 - Make a list of all you hardware (printer, server, switch modem,
 workstation, use a spreadsheet and put brands, models, memory, hard
 drive capacity, network card operating systems etc.

Yes, this is what you need to do and what any consultant shall start to do (or
ask you to do) before getting further.

If you are using Windows workstations, there are softwares (freewares) that may
analyze your system and make reports of it. You could also use the Knoppix or
the Ubuntu live CD to boot each station and get information about the system.


 - Explicit your goals more clearly as well and the reason you need a
 consultant

You need to describe the functions of your actual network and what you wish to
change/modify/improve/add

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From vu.do.qu...@auf.org  Fri Feb 23 09:35:17 2007
From: vu.do.qu...@auf.org (Vu Do Quynh)
Date: Fri Feb 23 09:34:26 2007
Subject: [HanoiLUG] Next Linux course for beginners (in Vietnamese) : 10th
March 2007
Message-ID: 45de52e5.5010...@auf.org

Ch?c m?ng n?m m?i cho c?c b?n HanoiLug !

?? b?t ??u t?t ??p n?m ?inh H?i, Trung t?m CNF-AUF c?ng t?nh nguy?n vi?n 
HanoiLug s? t? ch?c l?p h?c (th? ba) v? Linux d?nh cho nh?ng ng??i ch?a 
bi?t g? v? linux (g?i t?t l? Linux 101), ng?y th? b?y 10/03/2007 (c? 
ng?y) v? s?ng ch? nh?t 11/03/2007.

Th?ng tin chi ti?t ???c c?ng b? tr?n trang sau:

http://hanoi.centre-linux.org/article.php3?id_article=66

V?y nh? c?c b?n ph? bi?n r?ng r?i th?ng tin n?i tr?n chi b?n b? va qua 
c?c di?n ??n gi?p.

C?m ?n

Hi everyone,

I hope you had nice and Happy New (lunar) Year holidays.

We are starting the Year of the Pig with a third offering of the Linux 
course for beginners in Vietnamese on Saturday 10th march 2007. The 
course will spread over one day and half, like the last one. So, if you 
know of Vietnamese persons that might be interested in learning

[HanoiLUG] Next Linux install-party ?

2007-04-17 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Hi all,

The new CentOS-5 has been released on time: 
http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2007-April/013660.html
So I will do installing it in the party.

However, at this time, I am not sure what exact place and time for that party 
(too much discussion :).
Anyone can tell me that. Thanks!

P.S. hope it is a Sunday since it is my only non-working day.
 
Kind regards,
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- Original Message 
From: Truong Anh Tuan dt...@yahoo.com
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug@lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2007 9:09:56 PM
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] Next Linux install-party ?

Dear Mr. Quynh and David,

Sure! I am another volunteer.
I will install either Fedora Core 6 or CentOS 5 (if it is released on time).

Please let me know the time range and place of party. I hope it will be taken 
out of regular working time.
 
Kind regards,
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- Original Message 
From: David Tremblay da...@roy-tremblay.net
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug@lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2007 4:48:00
 PM
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] Next Linux install-party ?

Sir, I'm volunteer Sir,

As for other distros, everyone should offer where they feel the better
at. For example, Tuan TRUONG can install Fedora Core. Also we can try to
adapt to our client. If someone arrives with a P3 64mb, we have to
recommend something light

Well we can do it either on the 21 or the 28 april to keep it on
saturday but I can be available anytime

Eh someone can you make the same call but in vietnamese ?








Vu Do Quynh a ?crit :
 Hi,
 
 Ubuntu 7.04 is due by April 19th, 2007. So, what about organizing a Linux
 install-party ?
 
 For installing/upgrading Ubuntu, of course, but for other Linux distros as 
 well.
 
 Any volunteers for their preferred Linux distros ? please step forward.
 
 And when would we do it ? Suggestions ?
 
 

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From da...@roy-tremblay.net  Tue Apr 17 10:54:56 2007
From: da...@roy-tremblay.net (David Tremblay)
Date: Tue Apr 17 10:55:29 2007
Subject: [HanoiLUG] we should craft our plans on the wiki !
Message-ID: 1176782096.6073.33.ca...@david-laptop

As all of you knows already, we should craft our plans on the wiki. 

For the organization of the Install Party we have :

http://www.hanoilug.org/dokuwiki/soft:installparty

and 

http://www.hanoilug.org/dokuwiki/soft:todoinstallparty

In english sorry

Apparently the name space will change but we will update the information
if it change. 

It is also a good time to collaborate of various documentation 
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[HanoiLUG] confusion between shareware and open source in Vietnamnews

2007-05-15 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Hi David,

Yes, a big confusion :(

We should write a comment to the Editor in Chief: Tran Mai Huong following 
addresses provided in the site footer. The comment should have explanation as 
clear as possible and/or good references.

Any volunteer now?
 
Kind regards,
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From: David Tremblay da...@roy-tremblay.net
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:44:34 AM
Subject: [HanoiLUG] confusion between shareware and open source in Vietnamnews

http://vietnamnews.vnagency.com.vn/showarticle.php?num=02BUS140507


can someone explain to whoever wrote the article that he/she knows
nothing about software especially FOSS ?


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[HanoiLUG] Intel Open Source Center and Software solution wants to meet Hanoi LUG : what are your expectations ?

2007-05-31 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Thanks David :)
 
Kind regards,
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- Original Message 
From: David Tremblay da...@roy-tremblay.net
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 12:28:07 PM
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] Intel Open Source Center and Software solution wants to 
meet Hanoi LUG : what are your expectations ?

Sorry for the name change,

Was thinking about a Tuan person while writing back

About Intel, I will put this as suggestion to discuss, but in fact I
think you should say it to them directly, because I expect the an
HanoiLUG/Intel OTC meeting of some sort. By asking this I want to set up
an agenda of topics
 

Le jeudi 31 mai 2007 ? 13:51 +0900, Nguyen Anh Quynh a ?crit :
 On 5/31/07, David Tremblay david at roy-tremblay.net wrote:
  Hi Tuan
 
 
 hi, but my name has never been changed in my life ...
 
  Because I've been in contact with them to improve the coordination of
  Free And Open Source Activities in Vietnam
 
  Since I arrived in Viet Nam I tried to raise the FOSS profile of
  Vietnam, so far Intel have been the one who have been the most willing
  to get some work done.
 
  So what do you expect from them ?
 
 
 tell them to open an Open Source Technology Center in Vietnam, and
 help our developers to improve their research abilities. i would love
 to see more contribution from Vietnam to the open source world, and
 see Vietnamese names credited in important open source projects.
 
 but probably an OTC in VN is only a wild dream, as far as i can see.
 
 cheers,
 Q
 
  Le mercredi 30 mai 2007 ? 17:29 +0900, Nguyen Anh Quynh a ?crit :
   hi David,
  
   out of curiosity, how did you get this news?
  
At a larger level they want to explain that Intel is part of the Linux
and open source community, that Open source software and Linux are
growing in importance to Intel. That Linux and other free software are
valuable to Intel. Apparently Intel is 3rd or 4th largest contributor to
kernel.org and have add millions of line of code into Xen , the
Virtualisation project.
   
  
   million LOC? that number is way too exaggerate ;-) the whole code of
   Xen is far less than that, let alone the contribution from Intel.
  
   but of course Intel is a great contributor to Linux. but i just dont
   understand what Intel expect from the Vietnamese community. any idea?
  
   cheers,
   Quynh
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[HanoiLUG] [Fwd: [vnit] IT: Vietnam faces isolation following theft of undersea cable, Thanhnien News (2 stories)]

2007-05-31 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Unfortunately: Oh, YES 
 
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Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 3:44:03 PM
Subject: [HanoiLUG] [Fwd: [vnit] IT: Vietnam faces isolation following theft of 
undersea cable, Thanhnien News (2 stories)]

Oh no

 Message transf?r? 
De: Vern Weitzel vern at coombs.anu.edu.au
R?pondre ?: vern at coombs.anu.edu.au
?: [ksd-vn discussion group] ksd-vn at cairo.anu.edu.au, [vnit-l
discussion group] vnit-l at cairo.anu.edu.au
Sujet: [vnit] IT: Vietnam faces isolation following theft of undersea
cable, Thanhnien News (2 stories)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 13:56:10 +0700


Subject: [vnnews-l] IT: Vietnam faces isolation following theft of undersea 
cable, Thanhnien News (fwd)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 23:42:38 -0700 (PDT)
sent to vnnews-l by Stephen Denney sdenney at OCF.Berkeley.EDU

Vietnam faces isolation following
theft of undersea cable
[logo_tnnews.gif]
Vietnam faces isolation following theft of undersea cable

With an undersea communications cable severed several months ago and
part of it stolen, Vietnam faces the threat of isolation if anything
happens to another cable that now carries most of its traffic.

A 98-kilometer segment of the TVH fiber-optic cable responsible for
transmitting large volumes of data for landline systems and the
Internet was stolen off the Ca Mau coast. Bui Thien Minh, deputy
director of state-run Vietnam Posts and Telecommunications Group
(VNPT), one of the owners, said repairs were estimated to cost US$2.6
million.

Together with SMW3, the other undersea fiber-optic cable, the damaged
network accounted for 82 percent of all data transmitted from and to
Vietnam. The rest is transmitted by three land cables and a satellite
system.

Minh said if part of SMW3 too was stolen Vietnam would be cut off from
the outside world. The Internet would collapse first.

Even more pessimistic was Lam Quoc Cuong, deputy director of VTI, a
VNPT subsidiary responsible for operating the two sea cables, who said
there is no effort to ensure that that the remaining sea cable is not
stolen.

It could be stolen at any time, he warned.

Nguyen Xuan Tru, deputy head of the Ministry of Posts and Telematics
telecommunication department, said the situation was extremely
serious.

CAT, a Thai company that invested 45 percent of the cost of the TVH
cable, said its experts estimated it would cost $2.6 million to repair
the cable.

Asean Explorer, a Singaporean ship specializing in cable repair hired
by VNPT to survey the problem, said the repairs would take 88 days.

Minh said this could take much longer due to paperwork, especially for
permission for the vessel to operate in Vietnamese waters.

Cuong said there were only three ships capable of repairing
fiber-optic cables in the entire Indian and Pacific Oceans.

In related news, firms from 10 countries including Vietnam, the US,
India, the Philippines, Indonesia, Thailand, and Singapore, are
teaming up to lay a 20,000 km, $500 million AAG cable to connect
Southeast Asia, including Vietnam, with the US.

It is expected to be finished by October 2008.

Source: Tien Phong - Translated by A.N.O.N


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Government error to blame for undersea
cable theft
[logo_tnnews.gif]

Government error to blame for undersea cable theft

The theft of 98 km of undersea fiber-optic cable, which threatens to
leave Vietnam isolated, was partly caused by authorities who permitted
the collection of unused cable, Thanh Nien has discovered.

In August last year the government of Ba Ria Vung Tau province issued
a note permitting coast guards to cooperate with civilians in
salvaging unused undersea cables laid before 1975.

Such cables are no longer in use and are lucrative as scrap.

This spawned a rush by fishermen to haul up cables along the southern
coast and many reportedly failed to distinguish between unused cables
and those in use.

Some severed the TVH cable, one of the only two operational undersea
cables connecting Vietnam with the outside world.

Last month the Ba Ria Vung Tau government withdrew the permission and
banned all kinds of cable salvage.

A reader wrote to Thanh Nien expressing his indignation at the
decision which allowed people to recover cables laid before 1975 at
predetermined coordinates.

He said the fishermen and soldiers involved were mostly ignorant of
coordinates and could not know which cables were laid before 1975 and
which after since they lay deep under the sea.

Experts estimate it will cost around US$2.6 million and take at least
three months to repair 

[HanoiLUG] [Fwd: cơ hội dùng phần mề m nguồn mở]

2007-06-12 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Hi all,

The network speed will be huge better when we have local mirrors in Vietnam 
(managed by a community like HanoiLUG or an organization such as corporates 
doing business in FOSS or universities, institutes, etc.). However, high 
Internet cost at home is still one of barriers to prevent someones do 
installing GNU/Linux over the Internet.

In this situation, I think distributing CDs is the best way.
Ubuntu-vi could be one of good ideas. However, users still have chances to use 
the standard Ubuntu (I prefer this idea). It will be better when we (HanoiLUG) 
can have a local (Ubuntu and others) mirror.
 
Kind regards,
Tuan TRUONG
---
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- Original Message 
From: Vu Do Quynh vu.do.qu...@auf.org
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 11:47:55 AM
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] [Fwd: c? h?i d?ng ph?n m?m ngu?n m?]

Hi,

The summary of the email by M. Nguyen huu Thanh is :

To propagate the use of e.g. Ubuntu (which now looks as a very easy
GNU/Linux distribution to use), we need to solve the problem of internet
access : not everyone has ADSL and then, how to download and install ?
So there is a need from the FOSS providers to take this into account and
to give a remedy.

This is actually what has been intended by the production of a Vietnam
customized Ubuntu (Ubuntu-vi) made by JC : people using that CD can get
a ready Vietnamese based system which will address most of their needs
in terms of essential common tasks (office work and internet).

It is also possible to produce CDs with system updates for distribution
at cost.

What is needed is to advertize for places where people could get CDs
sent by post etc. This is already done (for the South) by Vietlug :

http://www.vnlinux.org/sitemoi/?q=node/183

That would be even better if institutions and journals like Tin hoc va
doi song, etc., could also act as repository for distribution (gratis
or payable) of these CDs. Also the different sections of the Informatics
association of Vietnam could act locally if they wish so (i.e. if there
are any people whishing to act so) !

Regards


Nguyen Hong Quang a ?crit :
 Hello HanoiLUG members,
 
 I've received the demand bellow from Mr Thanh, journalist of
 Informatics  Life (Tin hoc va doi song) magazine. I think that it's
 an interesting subject to discuss and to give quickly a practical
 solution. Sorry if some HanoiLUG member can't understand the vietnamese
 text.
 
 Bests,
 Quang
 
 
 
 Sujet:
 c? h?i d?ng ph?n m?m ngu?n m?
 Exp?diteur:
 Nguy?n H?u Th?nh huuthanh.ng at gmail.com
 Date:
 Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:01:40 +0700
 Destinataire:
 NguyenHongQuang nguyen.hong.quang at auf.org
 
 Destinataire:
 NguyenHongQuang nguyen.hong.quang at auf.org
 
 
 Ch?o anh Nguy?n H?ng Quang,
 
 T?i l? Nguy?n H?u Th?nh ? T?p ch? Tin h?c v? ??i s?ng, m?i g?p anh trong
 bu?i h?i th?o PMNM Intel h?m th? Hai.
 T?i mu?n trao ??i ti?p t?c v?i anh vi?c l?m sao cho ng??i d?ng c? c? h?i
 t?t
 h?n v?i ph?n m?m ngu?n m?. B?n th?n t?i l? m?t ng??i d?ng c? ch?t ki?n th?c
 v? c?i ??t v? s? d?ng ph?n m?m. T?i c?ng ?? t?ng kinh doanh tin h?c trong
 kh? nhi?u n?m v? v?n ?? b?n quy?n v?i t?i l? r? r?ng. V? th? t?i ?? th?
 d?ng
 Fedora t? khi n? l? v.1, v.2, v? c? OOo v.1.
 B?y gi? t?i th?y Linux m? c? th? l? Ubuntu ?? d? d?ng h?n r?t nhi?u. Nh?ng
 vi?c tri?n khai ??i tr? c? nh?ng v?n ?? ph?i gi?i quy?t t? ph?a ng??i cung
 c?p d?ch v?.
 Nghi?m tr?ng nh?t l? v?n ?? m?ng Internet. Ng??i cung c?p d?ch v? kh?ng th?
 ??i h?i ng??i d?ng lu?n c? m?ng internet t?c ?? cao ?? ph?c v? cho vi?c c?i
 ??t. C? nhi?u c? quan, doanh nghi?p v? ng??i d?ng gia ??nh ? t?nh tr?ng nh?
 v?y.
 N?u nh? d?ch v? (g?i t?t nh? cung c?p d?ch v? cho n? g?n) m? c? th? load
 t?t
 c? c?c g?i c?n thi?t v? th?nh m?t b? ??a ho?n ch?nh ?? khi c?i ??t ch? c?n
 d?ng b? ??a ?? nh? c?c h? ?i?u h?nh v? ph?n m?m ?ng d?ng ??ng g?i th?
 m?i c?
 th? cung c?p d?ch v? m?t c?ch thuy?t ph?c. M? t?i th?y vi?c ?? ??u c? kh?
 nh?. Ho?c l? t?i ch?a hi?u ??ng v? m?i tr??ng Ubuntu?
 T?i cho l? vi?c n?y r?t quan tr?ng, mong anh chia s? kinh nghi?m v? ki?n
 th?c.
 
 Xin ch?o tr?n tr?ng,
 Nguy?n H?u Th?nh


-- 
M. Vu Do Quynh
Agence universitaire de la Francophonie, Bureau Asie Pacifique
Responsable, Campus num?rique francophone (CNF) de Hanoi
C?/ IFI (Rez de chauss?e, derri?re l'Amphi. Marcel Dassault)
B?timent D, Impasse (Ngo) 42, rue Ta Quang Buu (Q. Hai Ba Trung), Hanoi
T?l: +84-4-868.48.85 ; T?l?copie: +84-4-869.45.09
Sites de toile: http://www.vn.refer.org/
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[HanoiLUG] [Fwd: cơ hội dùng phần mề m nguồn mở]

2007-06-12 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Hi David,

Have no more ideas! Yours are over enough :)
 
Kind regards,
Tuan TRUONG
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- Original Message 
From: David Tremblay da...@roy-tremblay.net
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 12:34:32 PM
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] [Fwd: c? h?i d?ng ph?n m?m ngu?n m?]

Hi,

How to get GNU/linux CD when you don't have broadband internet in
Hanoi :

- It is already possible to find several GNU/linux distribution in place
where they sell CD's. In fact it is a good way to make money with Free
and Open Source Software
- Attend one or another Install party of the HANOILUG
- Attend one or another Linux for newbie training ...
- It is possible for computer magazine to give CD's 
- It is possible to order free CD directly from canonical
https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
- You can go to CNF (42 Ta Quang Buu) and ask for a CD
- You can ask on the hanoiLUG list if someone is willing to give one, in
fact 
- For the next Software freedom day september 15 


Other Ideas ?



Le mercredi 13 juin 2007 ? 11:47 +0700, Vu Do Quynh a ?crit :
 Hi,
 
 The summary of the email by M. Nguyen huu Thanh is :
 
 To propagate the use of e.g. Ubuntu (which now looks as a very easy
 GNU/Linux distribution to use), we need to solve the problem of internet
 access : not everyone has ADSL and then, how to download and install ?
 So there is a need from the FOSS providers to take this into account and
 to give a remedy.
 
 This is actually what has been intended by the production of a Vietnam
 customized Ubuntu (Ubuntu-vi) made by JC : people using that CD can get
 a ready Vietnamese based system which will address most of their needs
 in terms of essential common tasks (office work and internet).
 
 It is also possible to produce CDs with system updates for distribution
 at cost.
 
 What is needed is to advertize for places where people could get CDs
 sent by post etc. This is already done (for the South) by Vietlug :
 
 http://www.vnlinux.org/sitemoi/?q=node/183
 
 That would be even better if institutions and journals like Tin hoc va
 doi song, etc., could also act as repository for distribution (gratis
 or payable) of these CDs. Also the different sections of the Informatics
 association of Vietnam could act locally if they wish so (i.e. if there
 are any people whishing to act so) !
 
 Regards
 
 
 Nguyen Hong Quang a ?crit :
  Hello HanoiLUG members,
  
  I've received the demand bellow from Mr Thanh, journalist of
  Informatics  Life (Tin hoc va doi song) magazine. I think that it's
  an interesting subject to discuss and to give quickly a practical
  solution. Sorry if some HanoiLUG member can't understand the vietnamese
  text.
  
  Bests,
  Quang
  
  
  
  Sujet:
  c? h?i d?ng ph?n m?m ngu?n m?
  Exp?diteur:
  Nguy?n H?u Th?nh huuthanh.ng at gmail.com
  Date:
  Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:01:40 +0700
  Destinataire:
  NguyenHongQuang nguyen.hong.quang at auf.org
  
  Destinataire:
  NguyenHongQuang nguyen.hong.quang at auf.org
  
  
  Ch?o anh Nguy?n H?ng Quang,
  
  T?i l? Nguy?n H?u Th?nh ? T?p ch? Tin h?c v? ??i s?ng, m?i g?p anh trong
  bu?i h?i th?o PMNM Intel h?m th? Hai.
  T?i mu?n trao ??i ti?p t?c v?i anh vi?c l?m sao cho ng??i d?ng c? c? h?i
  t?t
  h?n v?i ph?n m?m ngu?n m?. B?n th?n t?i l? m?t ng??i d?ng c? ch?t ki?n th?c
  v? c?i ??t v? s? d?ng ph?n m?m. T?i c?ng ?? t?ng kinh doanh tin h?c trong
  kh? nhi?u n?m v? v?n ?? b?n quy?n v?i t?i l? r? r?ng. V? th? t?i ?? th?
  d?ng
  Fedora t? khi n? l? v.1, v.2, v? c? OOo v.1.
  B?y gi? t?i th?y Linux m? c? th? l? Ubuntu ?? d? d?ng h?n r?t nhi?u. Nh?ng
  vi?c tri?n khai ??i tr? c? nh?ng v?n ?? ph?i gi?i quy?t t? ph?a ng??i cung
  c?p d?ch v?.
  Nghi?m tr?ng nh?t l? v?n ?? m?ng Internet. Ng??i cung c?p d?ch v? kh?ng th?
  ??i h?i ng??i d?ng lu?n c? m?ng internet t?c ?? cao ?? ph?c v? cho vi?c c?i
  ??t. C? nhi?u c? quan, doanh nghi?p v? ng??i d?ng gia ??nh ? t?nh tr?ng nh?
  v?y.
  N?u nh? d?ch v? (g?i t?t nh? cung c?p d?ch v? cho n? g?n) m? c? th? load
  t?t
  c? c?c g?i c?n thi?t v? th?nh m?t b? ??a ho?n ch?nh ?? khi c?i ??t ch? c?n
  d?ng b? ??a ?? nh? c?c h? ?i?u h?nh v? ph?n m?m ?ng d?ng ??ng g?i th?
  m?i c?
  th? cung c?p d?ch v? m?t c?ch thuy?t ph?c. M? t?i th?y vi?c ?? ??u c? kh?
  nh?. Ho?c l? t?i ch?a hi?u ??ng v? m?i tr??ng Ubuntu?
  T?i cho l? vi?c n?y r?t quan tr?ng, mong anh chia s? kinh nghi?m v? ki?n
  th?c.
  
  Xin ch?o tr?n tr?ng,
  Nguy?n H?u Th?nh
 
 
 -- 
 M. Vu Do Quynh
 Agence universitaire de la Francophonie, Bureau Asie Pacifique
 Responsable, Campus num?rique francophone (CNF) de Hanoi
 C?/ IFI (Rez de chauss?e, derri?re l'Amphi. Marcel Dassault)
 B?timent D, Impasse (Ngo) 42, rue Ta Quang Buu (Q. Hai Ba Trung), Hanoi
 T?l: +84-4-868.48.85 ; T?l?copie: +84-4-869.45.09
 Sites de toile: http://www.vn.refer.org/
 ___

[HanoiLUG] Free Software: Do You Get What You Pay For?

2007-06-26 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
An interesting article.

Free Software: Do You Get What You Pay For?
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/how_to/4218163.html

Ph?n m?m c? b?n quy?n thua c? b?n mi?n ph?:

http://vnexpress.net/Vietnam/Vi-tinh/2007/06/3B9F766A/
 
Kind regards,
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[HanoiLUG] internet at 40gb/s ??????????????

2007-07-13 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Oh, how lucky you are!
My download speed is sometimes down to 4Kbps :)
 
Kind regards,
Tuan TRUONG
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- Original Message 
From: Tom Lancaster tom-h...@grubby.net
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 11:39:52 PM
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] internet at 40gb/s ??

David Tremblay wrote:
 you read correctly the old lady can download a DVD in few seconds...
 

wow. I'm salivating. I only get 40 kb/s over DSL.


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[HanoiLUG] Annoucement: Hanoi Linux Café !!!

2007-07-23 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Xin ch?o Th?o,

H?n g?p l?i s?m :)
 
Kind regards,
Tuan TRUONG
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- Original Message 
From: L? Xu?n Th?o tha...@gmail.com
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 10:52:25 AM
Subject: [HanoiLUG] Annoucement: Hanoi Linux Caf? !!!

[Vietnamese version, English version bellow]

C?c ??ng ch? HanoiLug th?n m?n

Tr?n tinh th?n t??ng tr? v? ph? bi?n ki?n th?c c?a HanoiLug, ch?ng ta
?ang c? g?ng cung c?p h? tr? v? GNU/Linux m?t c?ch th??ng xuy?n li?n
t?c h?n cho b?t c? ai c?n ??n. ? t??ng l? ?n ??nh m?t ??a ?i?m v? th?i
gian c? ??nh h?ng tu?n t?i m?t qu?n c? ph? wifi, ?t nh?t hai th?nh
vi?n c?a HanoiLug s? c? m?t ?? gi?i ??p th?c m?c, gi?p ?? ho?c t?n
ph?t v?i b?t c? ai gh? qua. Th?i gian ?? c?ng c? th? d?nh ?? l?m vi?c
ri?ng ho?c b?n th?o c?c ? t??ng li?n quan ??n HanoiLug v? c?c d? ?n
li?n quan.

Hi?n gi? ch?ng t?i ?ang d? ??nh th?i gian l? t? 18h ??n 20h th? s?u h?ng tu?n.

N?u ai c? l?i khuy?n v? th?i gian ??a ?i?m hay c?ch th?c t? ch?c ho?c
mu?n tham gia u?ng c? ph?, xin m?i l?n ti?ng. M?i ??ng g?p ??u ???c
hoan ngh?nh.

?i?m h?n cu?i tu?n n?y (th? 6, 27 th?ng 7) l? qu?n cafe L?m Anh s? 120
???ng V?n Ph?c (??i di?n s? qu?n Nh?t B?n). T?m b?n c? g?n c?
HanoiLug.


[English version, Vietnamese version above]

Dear HanoiLugers

We recently come through an Idea to help out people and provide more
permanent presence to whoever is in need. It is also a dedicated
time to work on hanoiLUG issues or project. So what we do is, we sit in
a caf? with wireless access every week at the same day/time and we wait
people walking in for help, advice or simply just talk and have a
coffee/drink. We will need at least two (2) hosts every week.

So far we are inclined to do it on friday from 18h00pm to 20h00pm.

This weekend (friday 27th july) place is L?m Anh Caf?, 120 street V?n
Ph?c (in front of Japanese Embassy). Look for the table with Hanoilug
flag. This week hosts will be David Tremblay and L? Xu?n Th?o.
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[HanoiLUG] One ubuntu Community Council member is in town NOW

2007-07-29 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Great!

David, we are highly appreciated with your idea.

Jerome, hope you have not forgot your AS2 room mate yet :)
I look forward to see you in FOSS Business Models forum on Monday. I also have 
a presenting session here.
 
Kind regards,
Tuan TRUONG
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- Original Message 
From: Vu Do Quynh vu.do.qu...@auf.org
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org; David Tremblay 
david at roy-tremblay.net
Cc: Jerome Gotangco jgotangco at gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 2:54:48 PM
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] One ubuntu Community Council member is in town NOW

Hi,

David Tremblay david at roy-tremblay.net a ?crit :

 Jerome Gotangco ubuntu community council member is in town
 http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/council

 He will be leaving on tuesday 31, so it is short notice but I'm sure we
 can hook up with him on monday evening with some other ubunteros. In
 fact he wants to see how the community council can help the LoCo teams
 as he stated in his blog post
 http://engage.wordpress.com/2007/07/06/vietnam-and-thailand-tour/

 Any interested ?

Yes, I am definitely interested.

-- 

Agence universitaire de la Francophonie - Bureau Asie-Pacifique

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[HanoiLUG] GNU/linux Café this week - men/women at work !!!

2007-08-10 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Hi David et all,

I will take 2 Linux Trainers from IOSN, Myra and Antono, to today meeting at 
HanoiLUG Cafe.
See you there.
 
Kind regards,
Tuan TRUONG
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- Original Message 
From: David Tremblay da...@roy-tremblay.net
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2007 11:33:32 AM
Subject: [HanoiLUG] GNU/linux Caf? this week - men/women at work !!!

(translation - next email)
This week at the Hanoi GNU/linux Caf?, there won't be much philosphy but
work. Software freedom day work, we are lagging behind for preparation
so here are the tasks.

Finish writing the program and translate it
Assigning the following task :

Poster design + print
CD-Burning (we need at least 500)
Sticker Design
Sticker printing (for CDs)
Writing / translating the  press release
Spreading the news
Writing the program of the day
Translation of the Leaflet


If you are willing to do a presentation then it is most appreciated


links : http://www.hanoilug.org/dokuwiki/softwarefreedomday:15sept2007
http://www.hanoilug.org/dokuwiki/art:hanoilugart 






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[HanoiLUG] Cool features in Fedora 7

2007-08-23 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Hi all,

Some cool features in Fedora 7 could help community build their own liveCD, 
installationCD and even, own distros :).
http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/05/31/remixing-fedora-7/?sc_cid=3361

It looks like APTonCD in Debian world mentioned by Mr. Quynh.

I have never tried it but I am willing to do that if there are someone also 
would like to make their own CDs like me.

Have a good day.
 
Cheers,
Tuan

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[HanoiLUG] Cool features in Fedora 7

2007-08-23 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Hi Mr. Quynh et all,

We can discuss this topic in this Friday coffee meeting.
See you there today!!
 
Kind regards,
TRUONG Anh Tuan

- Original Message 
From: Vu Do Quynh vu.do.qu...@auf.org
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 9:23:12 AM
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] Cool features in Fedora 7

Truong Anh Tuan a ?crit :

 Some cool features in Fedora 7 could help community build their own liveCD, 
 installationCD and even, own distros :).
 http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/05/31/remixing-fedora-7/?sc_cid=3361
 
 It looks like APTonCD in Debian world mentioned by Mr. Quynh.
 
 I have never tried it but I am willing to do that if there are someone also 
 would like to make their own CDs like me.

It's quite interesting. That could be a topic for one specific thematic
hanoilug's activity... building a specific Hanoilug's distros,
vietnamized and based on Fedora ? Why not ?

If other people are interested we could set up something at CNF ?

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Responsable, Campus num?rique francophone (CNF) de Hanoi
C?/ IFI (Rez de chauss?e, derri?re l'Amphi. Marcel Dassault)
B?timent D, Impasse (Ngo) 42, rue Ta Quang Buu (Q. Hai Ba Trung), Hanoi
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[HanoiLUG] SFD2007 : Gaming contest (proposal)

2007-08-24 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Hmmm, so many exciting activities in SFD :)
Poor am I since I have got a business trip at that time :(

Have a good day for everyone.
 
Kind regards,
Tuan
- Original Message 
From: David Tremblay da...@roy-tremblay.net
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 4:10:15 PM
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] SFD2007 : Gaming contest (proposal)


Le vendredi 24 ao?t 2007 ? 15:55 +0700, Vu Do Quynh a ?crit :
 Hi,
 
 An idea for the gaming contest is to use the game Neverball.
 
 http://icculus.org/neverball/
 

I love the idea, never played neverball though...

Thang is the one who was volunteered to take care of this part of the
SFD... Thang is very shy and is lurking on the list, he is relatively
new to linux, but he has a nice laptop...

Thang oi where are you, what do you think ?

Can you at least paste your proposal in
http://www.hanoilug.org/dokuwiki/softwarefreedomday:preparation


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[HanoiLUG] How to manage software on Ubuntu server with aptitude and apt-get

2007-08-29 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Good morning everyone,

This article may be useful for Ubuntu newbies (like me :)

Learn how to use the commands apt-get and aptitude to perform package 
management from the command line.
http://go.techtarget.com/r/2081308/82182
Contributed by Sander van Vugt.
 
Have a good day,
Tuan
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[HanoiLUG] Fw: [ooo-announce] IBM joins the OpenOffice.org Community

2007-09-10 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
A good news for OpenOffice community and fans (including me :).

Have a good week!
 
Kind regards,
Tuan

- Forwarded Message 
From: John McCreesh jp...@openoffice.org
To: announce at openoffice.org
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 4:34:47 PM
Subject: [ooo-announce] IBM joins the OpenOffice.org Community

A Press Release was issued this morning to announce that IBM are
joining the OOo community:

The OpenOffice.org community today announced that IBM will be joining the
community to collaborate on the development of OpenOffice.org
software. IBM will be making initial code contributions that it has been
developing as part of its Lotus Notes product, including accessibility
enhancements, and will be making ongoing contributions to the feature
richness and code quality of OpenOffice.org. Besides working with the
community on the free productivity suite's software, IBM will also
leverage OpenOffice.org technology in its products.

The text of the full Press Release is here:
http://www.openoffice.org/press/ibm_press_release.html
and an accompanying FAQ is here:
http://www.openoffice.org/press/ibm_press_faq.html

John
--
John McCreesh
Marketing Project Lead
OpenOffice.org

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[HanoiLUG] For ones who would like to take M$ away

2007-09-11 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
MASS-MIGRATING MICROSOFT WORD DOCUMENTS TO OPENOFFICE.ORG ON  LINUX | Serdar 
Yegulalp, contributor

If
you're migrating documents from Microsoft Word to OpenOffice.org on
Linux, don't make the leap without considering the options, pitfalls
and tools available.
http://go.techtarget.com/r/2165648/82182 

Have a good day!!!

Kind regards,

TUAN, Truong Anh
President and CTO,
iWay,
No 57, Lane 16, Hoang Cau street, Hanoi, Vietnam
Phone: 844-514-8140 Handphone: 8490-323-7001
Fax: 844-514-8138
Email: tuanta at iwayvietnam.com
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[HanoiLUG] Linux - one of 7 Wonders of IT World

2007-09-12 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
There were the Seven Wonders of the World.
And a great news for everyone before SFD2007, Linux kernel is voted as one of 
seven wonders of IT World.

Please visit: http://www.cio.com/article/135700/Seven_Wonders_of_the_IT_World/7
 
Good night!
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[HanoiLUG] ebook on asterik voip

2007-09-28 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
This maybe another good choice for reading/reference: 
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk

Have a good weekend, David et all.
 
Kind regards,

TUAN, Truong Anh
President and CTO,
iWay,
No 57, Lane 16, Hoang Cau street, Hanoi, Vietnam
Phone: 844-514-8140 Handphone: 8490-323-7001
Fax: 844-514-8138
Email: tuanta at iwayvietnam.com
Website: www.iwayvietnam.com

- Original Message 
From: David Tremblay da...@roy-tremblay.net
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 2:14:50 PM
Subject: [HanoiLUG] ebook on asterik voip

i remember some people are interested in voip .. 

Asterisk: The Future of Telephony, Second Edition ebook at
http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf

have a nice day

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[HanoiLUG] go tieng viet trong fedora 4

2007-10-03 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Ban da dung thu xvnkb chua?
T dang dung ban moi nhat 0.2.9a tren Fedora chay OK.

http://xvnkb.sourceforge.net/
 
Kind regards,
Tuan

- Original Message 
From: letme acmilan lookatme1...@gmail.com
To: hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2007 10:20:45 AM
Subject: [HanoiLUG] go tieng viet trong fedora 4

toi co tai bo go x-unikey ve de go tieng viet trong fedora 4 nhung ko hieu sao 
ko the go duoc tieng viet trong openoffice, nhugn toi go duoc trong chuong 
trinh gaim, nhap chuot phai trong phan text de go thi co menu so ra va cho che 
do go cua unikey, vay phai lam sao de go duoc tieng viet trong openoffice, co 
phai thieu font ji kong, kiem no o dau vay, toi co hoi mot so nguoi thi ho bao 
cai vao la go duoc luon nhugn toi da thu ma cha an thua ji ca, ko thay co dau 
ma ji ca, ma sao font trong openoffice thay khac voi font tren win dows the 
nhi, toan font la hoac





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[HanoiLUG] muon truy nhap internet phai active ket noi

2007-10-03 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Co le ban dang dat dia chi IP dong, tu gan boi ADSL Modem.
Khi khoi dong torng ting trang modem chua bat, khong lay duoc dia chi IP can 
thiet.

Giai quyet PAN nay kha de bang cach doi han sang dung dia chi tinh (lay dun 
gdia chi dang duoc gan dong hien tai).
 
Kind regards,
Tuan
- Original Message 
From: letme acmilan lookatme1...@gmail.com
To: hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2007 10:23:50 AM
Subject: [HanoiLUG] muon truy nhap internet phai active ket noi

trong fedora 4 tai sao moi khi toi muon truy cap internet toi phai active cai 
ket noi do, vi mac dinh no de deactive thi phai, vi toi thay bat modem roi ma 
van ko vao duoc, cu phai active no thi moi ket noi vao internet duoc co cach 
nao de active no mac dinh ko cho do mat thoi gian, va toi thay trogn window khi 
ket noi co bieu tuogn hai may tinh ket noi o khay he thong de nhan biet may 
minh dang ket noi trong linux fedora 4 toi ko thay cai do, lam sao de xuat hien 
bieu tuong kieu nhu the de toi nhin vao la biet may minh dang connect





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[HanoiLUG] vao linux kieu ji neu quen password cua root

2007-10-03 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Chi can boot vao Single User mode (khong bi hoi password root) roi dung lenh 
passwd doi root password nhu binh thuong.

Tham khao:
http://www.linuxforums.org/security/howto:_recover_root_password.html
 
Kind regards,
Tuan

- Original Message 
From: letme acmilan lookatme1...@gmail.com
To: hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2007 10:34:12 AM
Subject: [HanoiLUG] vao linux kieu ji neu quen password cua root

neu quen mat khau root trong linux thi lam cach nao de vao duoc, co cong cu ji 
ko, nho cac ban chi gium




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[HanoiLUG] cai driver cho cannon LBP-1120 trong fedora 4

2007-10-03 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Max, I completely agree with you too.

letme acmilan, If there are no special reasons, you should upgrade to the 
latest Fedora Core 7 before retrying.
 
Kind regards,

TUAN, Truong Anh
President and CTO,
iWay,
No 57, Lane 16, Hoang Cau street, Hanoi, Vietnam
Phone: 844-514-8140 Handphone: 8490-323-7001
Fax: 844-514-8138
Email: tuanta at iwayvietnam.com
Website: www.iwayvietnam.com

- Original Message 
From: Maximilien Cugnet m_cug...@yahoo.fr
To: hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2007 3:53:45 PM
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] cai driver cho cannon LBP-1120 trong fedora 4

Le mercredi 03 octobre 2007 ? 10:37 +0700,
hanoilug-request at lists.hanoilug.org a ?crit :
  Sujet: [HanoiLUG] cai driver cho cannon LBP-1120 trong fedora 4

  toi cai fedora 4 nhung toi ko the tim thay driver de cai cho may in
  cannon LBP-1120, trong win xp thi co driver cho may nay va chay van
  ok nay toi cai them fedora 4 nhugn tim trong danh sach driver ko
  thay driver cho may nay vay lam sao, toi da thu chon mot vai series
  gan nhu the nhung ko duoc vay lam sao bay h 
 

Ch?o b?n,

Theo t?i bi?t th? b?n Fedora hi?n t?i l? b?n 7. Fedora 4 c? l?m r?i.

??i v?i M?y in Canon LBP-1120, c? m?t ph??ng ph?p c?i cho b?n Ubuntu t?i
??a ch? n?y:
http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/materiel/imprimante_canon_lbp_1120?s=lbp%201120
V?n ?? l? b?ng ti?ng Ph?p. N?u ? ??y c? geek n?o c? th? d?ch n? th? t?t
r?i.
C?ng c? th?ng tin ? ??y: http://www.boichat.ch/nicolas/capt/

Ch?c m?y m?n,

Max

-- 
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Informaticien
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Suisse

T?l.: +41 (0)77 441 64 11
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Courriel: m_cugnet at yahoo.fr
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[HanoiLUG] không vào được linux fedora 4 làm sao đây

2007-10-04 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Nguyen nhan loi nay co the la do may bi mat dien dot ngot khi dang chay.

Ban fix theo huong dan hien tren man hinh:

1. Nhap root password
2. chay lenh fsck

Cho chuong trinh fsck fix xong thi chay lenh reboot de restart lai he thong 
la OK.
 
Kind regards,
Tuan
- Original Message 
From: letme acmilan lookatme1...@gmail.com
To: hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2007 10:48:53 AM
Subject: [HanoiLUG] kh?ng v?o ???c linux fedora 4 l?m sao ??y

t?i m?i b? t?nh tr?ng th? n?y, kh?ng hi?u l? do g? m? kh?ng th? v?o ???c linux 
fedora 4, n? ch? kh?i ??ng ??n ph?n startup l? c? th?ng b?o th? n?y, ai c? kinh 
nghi?m ch? gi?p ph?i l?m sao. Li?u c? ph?i c?i l?i kh?ng



checking file system
/: unexpected inconsistency; run fsck manually
(i.e, without -a or -p options)

An error occured during the file system check
drop you to a shell; the system will reboot
when you leave the shell

warning--Selinux is active
Disabling security enforcement for system recovery
Run 'Setenforce 1' ro reenable
Give root password for maintaince
(or type Ctrl-D to continue)



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[HanoiLUG] skype for linux 1.4

2007-10-05 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Skype is my favorite service. I also used v1.4 on my Linux desktop at home and 
office.
I use it for my daily work to communicate with our international 
partners/customers.

Have a nice weekend.
 
Kind regards,
Tuan

- Original Message 
From: David Tremblay da...@roy-tremblay.net
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2007 6:19:02 PM
Subject: [HanoiLUG] skype for linux 1.4

Hello

I know we have some virulent anti-skype proponent on the list, I also
but well for those who have to deal with a lot of call outside then this
release is a definite relief. And it may take a while before  I can
convert my MS-Windows friends to Ekiga,
http://ekiga.org/index.php?rub=5path=windows/windows

skype 1.4 for linux fix a lot of issue and although all the feature are
not there (compared to the MAC OSX or windows Port) it is WAAAY much
better (I've been using the better for quite some time now)

http://www.skype.com/intl/en/download/skype/linux/choose/

Have a nice week end!!!

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[HanoiLUG] muon truy nhap internet phai active ket noi

2007-10-05 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Toi thay ban co rat nhieu cau hoi can su huong dan rat chi tiet.
Tot nhat la ban gap chung toi theo cac cach sau:
Ra Linux Cafe chieu thu 6 hang tuan (dia chi co thong bao nhieu lan)Den van 
phong AUF-CNF phia sau IFI (so do chi tiet xem tren hanoilug.org)Den VP lam 
viec cua toi tai dia chi so 57, ngo 16, Hoang Cau - dien thoai cho toi truoc 
theo so 0903237001.Hy vong co the giup ban tiep can voi Linux tot hon.
 
Kind regards,
Tuan
- Original Message 
From: letme acmilan lookatme1...@gmail.com
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2007 7:17:17 PM
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] muon truy nhap internet phai active ket noi



On 10/3/07, Truong Anh Tuan dtanh at yahoo.com wrote:
Co le ban dang dat dia chi IP dong, tu gan boi ADSL Modem.
Khi khoi dong torng ting trang modem chua bat, khong lay duoc dia chi IP can 
thiet.


Giai quyet PAN nay kha de bang cach doi han sang dung dia chi tinh (lay dun 
gdia chi dang duoc gan dong hien tai).
 
Kind regards,

Tuan

- Original Message 
From: letme acmilan lookatme1...@gmail.com
To: 
hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2007 10:23:50 AM
Subject: [HanoiLUG] muon truy nhap internet phai active ket noi

trong
fedora 4 tai sao moi khi toi muon truy cap internet toi phai active cai
ket noi do, vi mac dinh no de deactive thi phai, vi toi thay bat modem
roi ma van ko vao duoc, cu phai active no thi moi ket noi vao internet
duoc co cach nao de active no mac dinh ko cho do mat thoi gian, va toi
thay trogn window khi ket noi co bieu tuogn hai may tinh ket noi o khay
he thong de nhan biet may minh dang ket noi trong linux fedora 4 toi ko
thay cai do, lam sao de xuat hien bieu tuong kieu nhu the de toi nhin
vao la biet may minh dang connect









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anh co the chi giup doi sang dia chi tinh the nao khong vi em moi dung nen chua 
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[HanoiLUG] A technical question about Spam filter

2007-10-11 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Dear friends,

I am using SpamAssassin 3.1.x on Linux.
Now, all mails with spam score over five (5) are marked as spams (so simple 
configuration).

Further more, I would like to remove permanently all mails with score over ten 
(10).
All helps me to configure SpamAssassin to do that are highly appreciated.

Also, if SpamAssassin can not or so difficult to do that, could you tell me 
other open source alternatives, you know, can do that well (marked as spam at 5 
and remove permanently at 10).
 
Thanks,
Tuan
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[HanoiLUG] A technical question about Spam filter

2007-10-11 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Hi Tom, Francis et all,

Thank you for your support.

It's great. I solved the problem. Here is my procmailrc content (some small 
changes, but your article is very very helpful):

DROPPRIVS=yes
MAX_SCORE=10.00
MIN_SCORE=5.00
:0fw
| /usr/bin/spamc
:0
* ^X-Spam-Status:.*score=\/[0-9\.]+
{
## if spam score is  MAX_SCORE, trash it
:0
* $ -${MAX_SCORE}^0
* $ ${MATCH}^0
/dev/null

## else if spam score is  MIN_SCORE, send it to spam folder
:0E:
* $ -${MIN_SCORE}^0
* $ ${MATCH}^0
$DEFAULT
}


SpamAssassin is great! FOSS is too great!!! :)

 
Kind regards,

TUAN, Truong Anh
President and CTO,
iWay,
No 57, Lane 16, Hoang Cau street, Hanoi, Vietnam
Phone: 844-514-8140 Handphone: 8490-323-7001
Fax: 844-514-8138
Email: tuanta at iwayvietnam.com
Website: www.iwayvietnam.com

- Original Message 
From: Truong Anh Tuan dt...@yahoo.com
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:00:54 PM
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] A technical question about Spam filter

Thanks Tom,

It's so helpful for me in the first look.
I will follow its idea to try to reconfigure my Spam filter (SpamAssassin + 
Procmail)
 
Kind regards,
Tuan
- Original Message 
From: Tom Lancaster t...@grubbyconsulting.com
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 9:08:02 PM
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] A technical question about Spam filter

On 10/11/07, Truong Anh Tuan dtanh at yahoo.com wrote:

 Dear friends,

 I am using
 SpamAssassin 3.1.x on Linux.
 Now, all mails with spam score over five (5) are marked as spams (so simple
 configuration).

 Further more, I would like to remove permanently all mails with score over
 ten (10).
 All helps me to configure SpamAssassin to do that are highly appreciated.


http://www.perlcode.org/tutorials/procmail/procmail_cookbook.txt

- seems to indicate it's possible using procmail to grab the score and
act on it conditionally (in your case the action would be to send
message with a score  10 to /dev/null.

HTH,

Tom


 Also, if SpamAssassin can not or so difficult to do that, could you tell me
 other open source alternatives, you know, can do that well (marked as spam
 at 5 and remove permanently at
 10).
  Thanks,
 Tuan
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[HanoiLUG] Fw: [ooo-announce] OpenOffice.org is Seven Today

2007-10-13 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Happy birthday to... OO :)

Have a nice day!
 
Kind regards,
Tuan

- Forwarded Message 
From: Louis Suarez-Potts louis.suarez-po...@sun.com
To: announce at openoffice.org
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 8:02:57 PM
Subject: [ooo-announce] OpenOffice.org is Seven Today

OpenOffice.org community celebrates its 7th anniversary
104 million downloads of the open source productivity suite


Today, the open source project OpenOffice.org celebrates its 7th  
birthday. Founded by Sun Microsystems on October 13th, 2000,  
continues to experience tremendous growth. The project recently  
counted 104 million downloads from its website, and downloads have  
been increasing since the release of OpenOffice.org 2.3 last month.  
It is widely considered the most important open source productivity  
suite and one of the largest open source projects.

OpenOffice.org is available in more than 80 languages and runs  
natively on every major platform; it uses the ISO standard, the  
OpenDocument Format, for its files. Thousands from around the world  
contribute to its ongoing success, helping with the development,  
localisation, documentation, user support and marketing of the  
program. OpenOffice.org is being developed around the world, and it  
is being used around the world by governments, businesses and  
individuals, said Florian Effenberger, Marketing Project Co-Lead of  
OpenOffice.org. The community has achieved what few predicted seven  
years ago, and we have just begun!

In addition to its founder and main contributor Sun Microsystems,  
OpenOffice.org is also recognizes the contributions of RedFlag  
Software, IBM, Red Hat, and Novell, among others. OpenOffice.org  
welcomes the contributions of all organizations and individuals.

OpenOffice.org 2.3 can be found at http://download.openoffice.org/2.3.0/
Links to community and professional support, templates, books, etc.,  
can be obtained from http://support.openoffice.org


Press Contacts

John McCreesh (UTC +01h00)
OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead
jpmcc at openoffice.org
+44 (0)7 810 278 540

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OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Co-Lead
floeff at openoffice.org
+49 8341 9966 0880

Louis Su?rez-Potts (UTC -04h00)
OpenOffice.org Community Manager
louis at openoffice.org
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[HanoiLUG] TRANSLATION NEEDED ASAP !!!

2007-10-15 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Hi David,

It's great. I love it.
I will arrange for it.
 
Kind regards,
Tuan

- Original Message 
From: David Tremblay da...@roy-tremblay.net
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 10:45:45 AM
Subject: [HanoiLUG] TRANSLATION NEEDED ASAP !!!

UBUNTU Gutsy Gibbon Hanoi Release Party 

This month again, the formidable community of the GNU/linux distribution
UBUNTU will unleash the Gutsy Gibbon otherwise known as ubuntu
7.10. Yet another step in breaking the monopoly and give more freedom
to all computer users. All around the world people will celebrate and
feast for this new and and ever improving version of Ubuntu Linux. Hanoi
will be at the party as well at L?m Anh Caf?, 120 street V?n Ph?c
october 19th at 19h30

  * Door prizes
  * Buffet at popular price
  * Music
  * Videos
  * Beer and soft drinks
  * surprises
  * ... and a lot of fun!!





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[HanoiLUG] Hoi ve go tieng Viet trong OpenOffice tren Ubuntu

2007-10-30 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Thanks.

C?ch n?y t?i th? tr??c khi post h?i r?i (v?a r?i l?i l?m l?i :). Nh?ng v?i 
gedit th? k?t qu? OK, c?n v?i OO th? v?n l?i nh? m? t?.
Th? n?y c?ng ?ang ???c g? t? m?y l?i ??y! v?i phi?n b?n unikey 1.0.4-5 m?i t?i 
t? HanoiLUG nh? ch? d?n c?a Jean. (tr?n th? Yahoo c?ng ?ang OK).

Rgds,
Tuan 
- Original Message 
From: Nguyen Vu Hung vuhung16p...@gmail.com
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 5:25:50 PM
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] Hoi ve go tieng Viet trong OpenOffice tren Ubuntu


2007/10/30, Truong Anh Tuan dtanh at yahoo.com:

 Ch?o m?i ng??i,

 M?t ng??i b?n h?i t?i v? c?ch th?c g? ti?ng Vi?t
 trong OpenOffice tr?n
 Ubuntu. Kh?ng ph?i l? 1 chuy?n gia Ubuntu (th?c t? T c?ng
 ch?a d?ng distro
 n?y bao gi? :), n?n t?i post l?n ??y, hy v?ng nh?n
 ???c s? tr? gi?p nhanh.

 B?n t?i ?? c?i Ubuntu b?n 7.04 (t? CD) + Unikey 1.0.4 (g?i
 .deb download t?
 site unikey.org) + locale =  en_US.UTF-8 + c? c?i msttcorefonts.

 Check theo topic n?y th?y c? v? OK h?t:

 
http://www.unikey.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=937sid=9690b91ad59706bf27d4e0b41f0cf46e

Sau khi b?n start unikey t? ternimal th? start lu?n OpenOffice
 t?
ch?nh terminal ??.


-- 
Best Regards,
Nguyen Hung Vu
vuhung16plus{remo...@gmail.dot.com
An inquisitive look at Harajuku
http://www.flickr.com/photos/vuhung/sets/72157600109218238/
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[HanoiLUG] Hoi ve go tieng Viet trong OpenOffice tren Ubuntu

2007-10-30 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Hi Jean,

Thank you for your so fast response.

I tried to follow up this instruction 
(http://www.hanoilug.org/dokuwiki/soft:apt:hanoilug) and then installed unikey 
from HanoiLUG repository.
However, my problem has not been solved.

Have you got any other ideas?
Should I reinstall/update the latest OO downloaded from OO.org?

Rgds,
Tuan 


- Original Message 
From: Jean Christophe Andr? jean-christophe.an...@auf.org
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 5:39:00 PM
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] Hoi ve go tieng Viet trong OpenOffice tren Ubuntu


Truong Anh Tuan a ?crit :
 B?n t?i ?? c?i Ubuntu b?n 7.04 (t? CD) + Unikey 1.0.4 (g?i
 .deb
 download t? site unikey.org) + locale =  en_US.UTF-8 + c? c?i
 msttcorefonts.
T?t h?n l? t?i xu?ng v? c?i g?i x-unikey c?a HanoiLUG.

Nh?m HanoiLUG ?? l?m m?y g?i cho ti?ng Vi?t trong Ubuntu.

M?i B?n xem t?i ??y :

  http://apt.hanoilug.org/ubuntu/dists/feisty/contrib/binary-i386/Packages

?? d?ng c?c g?i n?y th? l?m theo th?ng tin n?y :
  http://www.hanoilug.org/dokuwiki/soft:apt:hanoilug

B?n ?y c?ng c? th? d?ng th? SCIM v? M17N :
  http://www.hanoilug.org/dokuwiki/soft:linux:scimtelex

-- 
Jean Christophe  ANDR? ?
 http://asie-pacifique.auf.org/
Responsable technique r?gional
Agence universitaire de la Francophonie (AuF) ? Bureau Asie-Pacifique
 (BAP)
Adresse postale : AUF, 21 L? Th?nh T?ng, T.T. Ho?n Ki?m, H?
 N?i, Vi?t Nam
T?l. : +84 4 9331108   Fax : +84 4 8247383   Mobile : +84 91 3248747
? Note personnelle : merci d'?viter de m'envoyer des fichiers
 PowerPoint  ?
? ou Word, voir
 http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.fr.html ?

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[HanoiLUG] Fwd: MySQL Co-founder David Axmark is coming to Manila, Bangkok, Hanoi and Singapore

2007-11-07 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
This may interest.

Kind regards,
Tuan

-- Forwarded message --
From: info.mysql.com news-al...@mysql.com
Date: Nov 6, 2007 3:42 PM
Subject: MySQL Co-founder David Axmark is coming to Manila, Bangkok,
Hanoi and Singapore
To: 


MySQL AB is pleased to announce that Co-founder and Vice President of
MySQL David Axmark is meeting MySQL user groups, new customers, and
partner candidates during Nov 12-17 in Manila, Bangkok, Hanoi, and
Singapore. User groups, customers, and resellers interested in MySQL
products are encouraged to meet him in the following cities:

Location: Manilla, the Philippines
 Date: Monday, November 12, 2007

Location: Bangkok, Thailand
 Date: Tuesday, November 13 and Wednesday, November 14, 2007

Location: Hanoi, Vietnam
 Date: Thursday, November 15 and Friday, November 16, 2007

Location: Singapore
 Date: Saturday, November 17, 2007
 Meeting place: GeekTerminal, http://www.geekterminal.com

Example of topics:
 * MySQL Product Roadmap
 * MySQL HA solutions
 * State of community
 * Technical QA
 * Networking with MySQL users  customers

Don't miss this opportunity to meet with MySQL Co-founder David
Axmark. To request a meeting, please send an email to Kazumi Mihashi
at kmihashi at mysql.com with:

- Your name, email address, organization, contact number
 - List of meeting participants including their names, email
addresses, organizations, contact numbers
 - Date and time convenient for you
 - Particular topics you are interested in discussing with David Axmark

You will be contacted by Mihashi Kazumi about meeting arrangement shortly.

We look forward to meeting you!

MySQL AB
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[HanoiLUG] Fwd: MySQL Co-founder David Axmark is coming to Manila, Bangkok, Hanoi and Singapore

2007-11-07 Hội thoại Truong Anh. Tuan
This may interest.

-- Forwarded message --
From: info.mysql.com news-al...@mysql.com
Date: Nov 6, 2007 3:42 PM
Subject: MySQL Co-founder David Axmark is coming to Manila, Bangkok,
Hanoi and Singapore
To: 


MySQL AB is pleased to announce that Co-founder and Vice President of
MySQL David Axmark is meeting MySQL user groups, new customers, and
partner candidates during Nov 12-17 in Manila, Bangkok, Hanoi, and
Singapore. User groups, customers, and resellers interested in MySQL
products are encouraged to meet him in the following cities:

Location: Manilla, the Philippines
 Date: Monday, November 12, 2007

Location: Bangkok, Thailand
 Date: Tuesday, November 13 and Wednesday, November 14, 2007

Location: Hanoi, Vietnam
 Date: Thursday, November 15 and Friday, November 16, 2007

Location: Singapore
 Date: Saturday, November 17, 2007
 Meeting place: GeekTerminal, http://www.geekterminal.com

Example of topics:
 * MySQL Product Roadmap
 * MySQL HA solutions
 * State of community
 * Technical QA
 * Networking with MySQL users  customers

Don't miss this opportunity to meet with MySQL Co-founder David
Axmark. To request a meeting, please send an email to Kazumi Mihashi
at kmihashi at mysql.com with:

- Your name, email address, organization, contact number
 - List of meeting participants including their names, email
addresses, organizations, contact numbers
 - Date and time convenient for you
 - Particular topics you are interested in discussing with David Axmark

You will be contacted by Mihashi Kazumi about meeting arrangement shortly.

We look forward to meeting you!

MySQL AB




[HanoiLUG] come to the café tonight at 18h00

2007-11-09 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Hi David et all,

Sorry, I am so busy to prepare for next week FOSS-bridge workshop.
See you at another time.
 
Kind regards,
Tuan

- Original Message 
From: Vu Do Quynh vu.do.qu...@auf.org
To: david at roy-tremblay.net; Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at 
lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2007 4:47:36 PM
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] come to the caf? tonight at 18h00


David Tremblay a ?crit :
 Linux caf? tonight
 
 If you want to discuss about the website, how to make it better,
 content
 or else, please come the Linux Caf? tonight 18h00 120 Van Phuc
 street.
 
 I'm also aware of some people who need help with their Vietnamese
 Input
 we will be glad to help if we can
 
 I can't be there before 19h00 so if you are willing to be host
 please
 be there at 18h00

I'll be there around 18h30 only
-- 
M. Vu Do Quynh
Agence universitaire de la Francophonie, Bureau Asie Pacifique
Responsable, Campus num?rique francophone (CNF) de Hanoi
C?/ IFI (Rez de chauss?e, derri?re l'Amphi. Marcel Dassault)
B?timent D, Impasse (Ngo) 42, rue Ta Quang Buu (Q. Hai Ba Trung),
 Hanoi
T?l: +84-4-868.48.85 ; T?l?copie: +84-4-869.45.09
Sites de toile: http://www.vn.refer.org/
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[HanoiLUG] Edubuntu server LTSP tests

2007-11-12 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
For anyone who prefer RPM-based distros: http://www.k12ltsp.org/ (based on 
Fedora)
 
Kind regards,
Tuan
- Original Message 
From: Vu Do Quynh vu.do.qu...@auf.org
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 4:28:36 PM
Subject: [HanoiLUG] Edubuntu server LTSP tests


Hi,

I have reported the tests that David and I have been doing on setting  
up an Edubuntu LTSP server on the wiki at :

http://www.hanoilug.org/dokuwiki/edubuntu:ltsp

You may read details and see two pictures.

Ch?o c?c b?n

T?i ?? l?p m?t trang m?i trong wiki (hi?n nay ch? c?
 ti?ng Anh, xem  
link tr?n ??y) ?? b?o c?o v? ti?n ?? th? nghi?m
 vi?c c?i ??t m?t m?y  
ch? Edubuntu k?m theo m?y ch? LTSP (Linux Terminal Server
 Project)  
ph?c v? cho c?c m?y tr?m kh?ch, g?i l? thin-client, v?
 nguy?n l? l?  
c?c m?y c? c?u h?nh th?p nh? CPU 400 Mhz, RAM 128 MB v?
 kh?ng c? ?  
c?ng (diskless).

Th? b?y v?a r?i vi?c c?i Edubuntu server (c? s?n ch?c
 n?ng LTSP) ho?n  
to?n th?nh c?ng (d? nh? c?i Ubuntu live-cd Desktop). Ch?ng t?i
 ?? n?i  
2 m?y tr?m c?ng kh?ng c? v?n ?? g? h?t. Th?t ng?c
 nghi?n l? qu? tr?nh  
setup m?t m?ng LTSP l?i qu? d? nh? th? ! Tuy nhi?n v?n
 c?n m?t v?i v?n  
?? ch?a ch?y t?t nh? mong mu?n do thi?u th?i gian
 nghi?n c?u h?m th?  
b?y v?a r?i, cho n?n s? nghi?n c?u ti?p th? b?y t?i
 ! C?c b?n mu?n ghe  
qu? xem h? th?ng th? nghi?m (LTSP Edubuntu server) c? th?
 qua trong  
gi? m? c?a c?a trung t?m CNF.

Ch?c m?nh kh?e.

-- 

Agence universitaire de la Francophonie - Bureau Asie-Pacifique

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[HanoiLUG] Problem with SATA HDD on linux kernel 2.6.18

2007-11-20 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
My friends,

I have got an serious problem with SATA HDD running on CentOS Linux 5 (latest 
patched kernel 2.6.18).

My server often stops working. Although It can respond ping packets, I can not 
connect to any services.
I review the server console, and see some error messages like:
Nov 1 01:15:22 galgao kernel: SCSI device sda: 390719855 512-byte hdwr sectors 
(200049 MB)
Nov 1 01:15:22 galgao kernel: sda: Write Protect is off
Nov 1 01:15:22 galgao kernel: SCSI device sda: drive cache: write back

Nov 1 01:15:22 galgao kernel: ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 
action 0x0
Nov 1 01:15:22 galgao kernel: ata1.00: tag 0 cmd 0xb0 Emask 0x1 stat 0x51 err 
0x4 (device error)
Nov 1 01:15:22 galgao kernel: ata1: EH complete

In normal conditions, I see these messages in dmesg results:
ata1: EH complete
ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x0
ata1.00: tag 0 cmd 0xb0 Emask 0x1 stat 0x51 err 0x4 (device error)

I googled the phrase ata1.00: tag 0 cmd 0xb0 Emask 0x1 stat 0x51 err 0x4 
(device error) and tried some instructions. However, the problem has not been 
solved. My server often still gets dump.

Have you got any problem or something like this? And can you tell me a good 
solution?

Thank you in advance.
 
Kind regards,
Tuan
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[HanoiLUG] Anti Spam solution ?

2007-11-23 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Ch?o b?n H?,

Trong m?t th? tr??c ??y, t?i c?ng t?m ki?m gi?i ph?p ?? configure procmail 
(ch?nh l? ph?n m?m b?n ?ang h?i - ho?t ??ng c?nh SpamAssassin ?? th?c hi?n c?c 
action sau khi nh?n k?t qu? ph?n lo?i c?a SA).

??y l? ?o?n t?ng k?t thread ??, n?u gi?i ph?p th?c hi?n kh? h?u hi?u:

I am using SpamAssassin 3.1.x on Linux.

Now, all mails with spam score over five (5) are marked as spams (so
simple configuration). Further more, I would like to remove permanently
all mails with score over ten (10).



Here is content of /etc/procmailrc to do that:



DROPPRIVS=yes

MAX_SCORE=10.00

MIN_SCORE=5.00

:0fw

| /usr/bin/spamc

:0

* ^X-Spam-Status:.*score=\/[0-9\.]+

{

## if spam score is  MAX_SCORE, trash it

:0

* $ -${MAX_SCORE}^0

* $ ${MATCH}^0

/dev/null

## else if spam score is  MIN_SCORE, send it to spam folder

:0E:

* $ -${MIN_SCORE}^0

* $ ${MATCH}^0

$DEFAULT

}



N?u c?n th?m h? tr? g?, b?n c? th? ti?p t?c post l?n list.

Ch?c b?n th?nh c?ng.
 
Kind regards,

TUAN, Truong Anh
President and CTO,
iWay,
No 57, Lane 16, Hoang Cau street, Hanoi, Vietnam
Phone: 844-514-8140 Handphone: 8490-323-7001
Fax: 844-514-8138
Email: tuanta at iwayvietnam.com
Website: www.iwayvietnam.com
- Original Message 
From: Nguyen Viet Ha viethangu...@gmail.com
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 9:27:09 AM
Subject: [HanoiLUG] Anti Spam solution ?


Ch?o c? nh?!

 

M?nh ?ang c?n t?m m?t gi?i ph?p cho vi?c anti-spam t?i mail gateway :) v? c?i 
t?n ??u ti?n m?nh ngh? ??n l? Apache Assassin. Tuy nhi?n khi m?nh ??c k? l?i 
t?i li?u ?i k?m t?i ??a ch? 

http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/spamassassin/branches/3.2/README

th? h? n?i r?ng: SpamAssassin kh?ng ph?i l? m?t ch??ng tr?nh ?? x?a th? r?c. 
Spam Assassin l? ch??ng tr?nh l?c v? ph?n lo?i mail. N? s? ki?m tra c?c th?ng 
?i?p ?i qua n? v? cho ?i?m v?i c?c mail n?y ?? x?c nh?n th? n?o l? th? r?c. M?t 
ch??ng tr?nh kh?c c?n ph?i x? l? c?c ?i?m n?y v? th?c hi?n c?c c?ng vi?c t??ng 
?ng d?a tr?n c?c ?i?m ??


 

V?y c? nh? cho m?nh h?i c? ph?n m?m n?o ph? h?p cho m?c ??ch anti spam (mail 
filter) ? mail gateway kh?ng?

 

C?m ?n c? nh?!

 

 

To other members using English:

Hi all!

 

Now I need to find one solution for anti-spam at mail gateway and the first 
name I got is Apache Assassin. However when I read Apache Assassin 
documentation at 


http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/spamassassin/branches/3.2/README

they said that SpamAssassin is not a program to delete spam, route spam and 
ham to separate mailboxes or folders, or send bounces when you receive spam. 
Those are mail routing functions, and SpamAssassin is not a mail router.  
SpamAssassin is a mail filter or classifier.  It will examine each message 
presented to it, and assign a score indicating the

likelihood that the mail is spam.  An external program must then examine this 
score and do any routing the user wants done.

 

So somebody could provide me other solution for anti-spam at mail gateway 
(based on open source software).

 

Thankx all :)!


 




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[HanoiLUG] Fwd: VietPhu gui giay moi tham du toa dam

2007-11-27 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Hi friends,

I will be there too.

See you!
 
Kind regards,
Tuan

- Original Message 
From: L? Xu?n Th?o tha...@gmail.com
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 1:42:53 PM
Subject: [HanoiLUG] Fwd: VietPhu gui giay moi tham du toa dam


English brief:

There will be a talk show (not sure who will be doing the talk though)
at the S1 studio VTV about FOSS. Hanoilug members are invited. Time
and place: 14h30 Wednesday 2007/11/28; S1 Studio VTV, 43 Nguy?n Ch?
Thanh ? Ba ??nh ? H? N?i.

GI?Y  M?I

Hi?n nay Ph?n m?m ngu?n m? ?ang l? v?n ?? ???c d?
 lu?n quan t?m v? s?
d?ng  ph?n m?m ngu?n m? ???c coi l? gi?i ph?p h?u
 hi?u trong vi?c gi?i
quy?t t?nh tr?ng vi ph?m b?n quy?n ph?n m?m, s? h?u
 tr? tu?.

?? g?p ph?n n?ng cao nh?n th?c, ph? bi?n ki?n th?c
 c? b?n v? ph?n m?m
ngu?n m? cho c?ng ??ng v? t?ng b??c ??a c?c ph?n
 m?m ngu?n m? v?o ?ng
d?ng trong th?c ti?n, Ban Khoa Gi?o ? ??i Truy?n h?nh
 Vi?t Nam tr?n
tr?ng k?nh m?i :

Nh?m HanoiLug ? Nh?ng ng??i s? d?ng ngu?n m? t?i H?
 N?i

Tham d? cu?c t?a ??m : ??y m?nh ?ng d?ng ph?n m?m
 ngu?n m?

(Ch??ng tr?nh s? ???c ghi h?nh v? ph?t s?ng tr?n K?nh
 VTV2 ? THVN)

Th?i gian : 14h430 Ng?y Th? T? 28/11/2007

??a ?i?m: Tr??ng quay S1 ? ??i truy?n h?nh Vi?t Nam,
 43 Nguy?n Ch?
Thanh ? Ba ??nh ? H? N?i

R?t mong s? tham gia c?a ?ng ?? ch??ng tr?nh ??t k?t
 qu? t?t.

Xin tr?n tr?ng c?m ?n.

Ban Khoa Gi?o


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From: Nguyen Viet Phu nguyenviet...@vtv.org.vn
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 13:45:10 + 0700
Subject: VietPhu gui giay moi tham du toa dam
To: thaolx at gmail.com





VietPhu gui giay moi tham du toa dam
Nguy?n Vi?t Ph?
Ph? Tr??ng ph?ng C?ng ngh? - VTV2
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Mobile: 0913218325
EMail:nguyenvietphu at vtv.org.vn
IM : vietphu at yahoo.com
Phone: 04.7714809
Ph?ng 208-Nh? A
??i Truy?n h?nh Vi?t Nam
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[HanoiLUG] Fwd: VietPhu gui giay moi tham du toa dam

2007-11-27 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
My friends,

Did I miss something? :)

We will have lunch together before go to the studio, right?
When and where?
 
Kind regards,
Tuan

- Original Message 
From: L? Xu?n Th?o tha...@gmail.com
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 8:21:11 PM
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] Fwd: VietPhu gui giay moi tham du toa dam


On 11/27/07, Jean Christophe Andr? jean-christophe.andre at auf.org
 wrote:
 David Tremblay a ?crit :
  Le mardi 27 novembre 2007 ? 14:47 +0700, Vu The Binh a ?crit :
  Let's organize something prior, if you want ... lunch tomorrow?
  Good idea, lunch is also a good idea...
 
 I'm coming too. So, when and where?

Yeah, I'd to be there (at the lunch) too.
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[HanoiLUG] Fwd: VietPhu gui giay moi tham du toa dam

2007-11-27 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
It's a good idea. I will be there in time.
 
Kind regards,
Tuan
- Original Message 
From: Jean Christophe Andr? jean-christophe.an...@auf.org
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:55:19 PM
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] Fwd: VietPhu gui giay moi tham du toa dam


Truong Anh Tuan a ?crit :
 Did I miss something? :)
 We will have lunch together before go to the studio, right?
 When and where?
No you did not: nobody has proposed some time or place yet, AFAIK.

What about having lunch near the AUF/CNF place in B?ch Khoa?

There is a goat meat (th?t d?) restaurant (cheap but reasonably
 good)
near the fuel station. I don't remember the exact address, but we could
meet at the AUF/CNF and go there together at say 12h30 ?

-- 
Jean Christophe  ANDR? ?
 http://asie-pacifique.auf.org/
Responsable technique r?gional
Agence universitaire de la Francophonie (AuF) ? Bureau Asie-Pacifique
 (BAP)
Adresse postale : AUF, 21 L? Th?nh T?ng, T.T. Ho?n Ki?m, H?
 N?i, Vi?t Nam
T?l. : +84 4 9331108   Fax : +84 4 8247383   Mobile : +84 91 3248747
? Note personnelle : merci d'?viter de m'envoyer des fichiers
 PowerPoint  ?
? ou Word, voir
 http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.fr.html ?

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[HanoiLUG] Fwd: VietPhu gui giay moi tham du toa dam

2007-11-27 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
My friends,

If just I and Jean are available for join lunch, we should delay that event to 
next times.

See all of you at VTV gate on 2:00PM.
 
Kind regards,
Tuan
- Original Message 
From: Vu Do Quynh vu.do.qu...@auf.org
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 8:52:39 AM
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] Fwd: VietPhu gui giay moi tham du toa dam


Jean Christophe Andr? a ?crit :
 Truong Anh Tuan a ?crit :
 Did I miss something? :)
 We will have lunch together before go to the studio, right?
 When and where?
 No you did not: nobody has proposed some time or place yet, AFAIK.
 
 What about having lunch near the AUF/CNF place in B?ch Khoa?
 
 There is a goat meat (th?t d?) restaurant (cheap but reasonably
 good)
 near the fuel station. I don't remember the exact address, but we
 could
 meet at the AUF/CNF and go there together at say 12h30 ?
 

I will not be at CNF at that time. I have to leave to go to the main
office at around 11h45 and I have an other RV for lunch today. If the
CNF is closed, you can just wait outside as a RV point.

So I'll go directly to 43 Ng Chi Thanh at 14h00 and see you there.

-- 
M. Vu Do Quynh
Agence universitaire de la Francophonie, Bureau Asie Pacifique
Responsable, Campus num?rique francophone (CNF) de Hanoi
C?/ IFI (Rez de chauss?e, derri?re l'Amphi. Marcel Dassault)
B?timent D, Impasse (Ngo) 42, rue Ta Quang Buu (Q. Hai Ba Trung),
 Hanoi
T?l: +84-4-868.48.85 ; T?l?copie: +84-4-869.45.09
Sites de toile: http://www.vn.refer.org/
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[HanoiLUG] Fwd: VietPhu gui giay moi tham du toa dam

2007-11-27 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
My friends,

Idea from Thai and Binh is good.
Please have a short meeting at Cafe before go to the studio.

I will also come to that Cafe at about 1:15PM (will call to Thai at that moment)
 
Kind regards,
Tuan

- Original Message 
From: Le Quoc Thai lqt...@gmail.com
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 9:58:12 AM
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] Fwd: VietPhu gui giay moi tham du toa dam


Hi,

2007/11/28, Truong Anh Tuan dtanh at yahoo.com:
My friends,

If just I and Jean are available for join lunch, we should delay that event to 
next times.

See all of you at VTV gate on 2:00PM.

 
Kind regards,
Tuan



Well, I would recommend to have cafe at 13:00 near Ngoc Khanh lake (a few 
hundred meters from VTV gate). I'd love to talk to you. Just don't wanna miss 
such a chance.


If you agree, I'll wait outside VTV (Nguyen Chi Thanh's gate) at 13:00 and then 
we will move. Here is my mobile: 095-330-7791.

See you,
Q.Thai




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[HanoiLUG] Squid question

2007-11-28 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Thanks Jean et al.

I will try the multi-instances solution and report back to you.
 
Kind regards,
Tuan
- Original Message 
From: Jean Christophe Andr? jean-christophe.an...@auf.org
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 1:02:57 AM
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] Squid question


Truong Anh Tuan a ?crit :
 My box is running directly on the Internet (not in our LAN) and has
 just public IP addresses.
I'll try to explain it again to make things more clear about his goal,
since we had some occasion to discuss about it just after the VTV
talk... ;-)

This is about one box offering public proxy service. This box should
have 3 public IP addresses to allow its users to visit websites and
apear on them as one of these 3 IP. Which IP to use should be the
 choice
of the user and that's what is difficult here...

I'm not sure squid is able to manage such a thing so I gave some bulk
hint: try to run 3 instances of squid, each with its own configuration
file using its own public IP address. :-P

If anybody knows a better way, something like allowing this with only
one instance of squid, please let us know! :-D

-- 
Jean Christophe  ANDR? ?
 http://asie-pacifique.auf.org/
Responsable technique r?gional
Agence universitaire de la Francophonie (AuF) ? Bureau Asie-Pacifique
 (BAP)
Adresse postale : AUF, 21 L? Th?nh T?ng, T.T. Ho?n Ki?m, H?
 N?i, Vi?t Nam
T?l. : +84 4 9331108   Fax : +84 4 8247383   Mobile : +84 91 3248747
? Note personnelle : merci d'?viter de m'envoyer des fichiers
 PowerPoint  ?
? ou Word, voir
 http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.fr.html ?

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[HanoiLUG] Squid question

2007-11-29 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Hi Jean et al,

I have got this done.
I also used this article when configuring: 
http://wiki.squid-cache.org/MultipleInstances
 
Kind regards,
Tuan

- Original Message 
From: Truong Anh Tuan dt...@yahoo.com
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 10:10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] Squid question


Thanks Jean et al.

I will try the multi-instances solution and report back to you.
 
Kind regards,
Tuan
- Original Message 
From: Jean Christophe Andr? jean-christophe.an...@auf.org
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 1:02:57 AM
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] Squid question


Truong Anh Tuan a ?crit :
 My box is running directly on the Internet (not in our LAN) and has
 just public IP addresses.
I'll try to explain it again to make things more clear about his goal,
since we had some occasion to discuss about it just after the VTV
talk... ;-)

This is about one box offering public proxy service. This box should
have 3 public IP addresses to allow its users to visit websites and
apear on them as one of these 3 IP. Which IP to use should be the
 choice
of the user and that's what is difficult here...

I'm not sure squid is able to manage such a thing so I gave some bulk
hint: try to run 3 instances of squid, each with its own configuration
file using its own public IP address. :-P

If anybody knows a better way, something like allowing this with only
one instance of squid, please let us know! :-D

-- 
Jean Christophe  ANDR? ?
 http://asie-pacifique.auf.org/
Responsable technique r?gional
Agence universitaire de la Francophonie (AuF) ? Bureau Asie-Pacifique
 (BAP)
Adresse postale : AUF, 21 L? Th?nh T?ng, T.T. Ho?n Ki?m, H?
 N?i, Vi?t Nam
T?l. : +84 4 9331108   Fax : +84 4 8247383   Mobile : +84 91 3248747
? Note personnelle : merci d'?viter de m'envoyer des fichiers
 PowerPoint  ?
? ou Word, voir
 http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.fr.html ?

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[HanoiLUG] Fw: NOOOXML: Your action is required: Contact TCVN now!

2007-12-06 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
My friends,

Anyone already know the answers for these questions?
 
Kind regards,
Tuan
- Forwarded Message 
From: Benjamin Henrion bhenr...@ffii.org
To: dtanh at yahoo.com
Sent: Friday, December 7, 2007 3:10:23 AM
Subject: NOOOXML: Your action is required: Contact TCVN now!



Dear Anh Tuan Truong,

You signed the NOOOXML petition, a movement backed now by more than
70.000 supporters worldwide. Our effort to influence the OOXML (Office
Open XML) standardization process has been an astonishing success so
far. We aim for at least 100.000 signatures in February when the Geneva
Ballot Resolution Meeting (BRM) will convene with the aim to resolve
comments.

Microsoft is trying by all means to get its standard adopted without
substantial changes despite of its thousands of officially reported
technical flaws and the pre-existence of ISO 26300:2006 (OpenDocument,
ODF) as the most appropriate international standard for the
representation of office documents.

By next Tuesday Dec 11 2007 delegates from your National Standards Body
TCVN who will participate in the BRM have to be announced to
ISO. At least Portugal and Ireland will be represented by Microsoft. In
many other countries, we know that Microsoft gold partners are
 proposing
themselves as heads of national delegations. Many of them will prevail
if we do not take action.

Will you let Microsoft represent your country at Geneva and decide the
future of OOXML?

You can make a difference and call now TCVN at +84-4-7911633 and help
us to find out:

  a. Who will represent TCVN on DIS 29500 at the Ballot
 Resolution Meeting in Geneva?
  b. When will the decision on delegates be made and if TCVN is
 aware of the Dec 11 deadline?
  c. Does your national delegates for the BRM are independent enough
 from Microsoft?
  d. Does the responsible Committee of TCVN for DIS 29500 work
 on resolution proposals for all the 3500 comments tabled or - if
 at
 all - only for the national comments that they submitted?

Please report your findings by replying to this email, we will update
this page with the members of each national delegation:

http://www.noooxml.org/brm

More things that you can do to help our effort against this broken
standard proposal:

  1. Join our mailing list and get in touch with many other
 activists:
 http://lists.ffii.org/mailman/listinfo/noooxml-club
  2. Become a member of FFII, the worldwide association leading the
 NOOOXML campaign:
 http://action.ffii.org/member_application
  3. Become a member of DIGISTAN, the organization for the promotion
 of true digital open standards worldwide; please indicate your
 interests to: members at digistan.org
  4. Blog about OOXML which shapes the public debate; blogging has been
 instrumental to our success in Sweden for example;
  5. support our campaign work with financial means:
 http://www.noooxml.org/donations

Best regards,

--
Benjamin Henrion bhenrion at ffii.org
NOOOXML Campaign leader



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[HanoiLUG] More troubles in Vietnamese keyboard

2007-12-19 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Hi friends,

T l?i g?p v?n ?? v?i b? g? ti?ng Vi?t.
L?n n?y l? tr?n m?y Laptop m?i c?a t?i, ch?y Fedora Core 8 x86_64.

T ?? th? c? xvnkb (b?n latest 0.2.9a) v? x-unikey.
Unikey th? t?i ch?a bao gi? th? ch?y ???c tr?n b?t c? platform n?o :).

xvnkb th? ch?y t?t tr?n c?c h? Fedora i386 l?c tr??c, nh?ng b?y gi? T d?ch th? 
v?i x86_64 b? l?i. C?i b?n cho i386 b?nh th??ng th? khi c?i xong, ch?y nh?n 
???c th?ng b?o l?i kh?ng preload ???c /lib/xvnkb-0.2.9a.

C? ai c? c?ch g? hay gi?i quy?t ???c b? g? tr?n h? n?y m?ch cho T v?i.
 
C?m ?n nhi?u,
Tuan
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[HanoiLUG] More troubles in Vietnamese keyboard

2007-12-19 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
It's a good idea, sir :)
I will be there.
 
Kind regards,
Tuan
- Original Message 
From: David Tremblay da...@roy-tremblay.net
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Cc: Tuan TRUONG dtanh at yahoo.com
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 2:21:33 PM
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] More troubles in Vietnamese keyboard


Le mercredi 19 d?cembre 2007 ? 20:38 -0800, Truong Anh Tuan a ?crit
 :
 Hi friends,
 
 T l?i g?p v?n ?? v?i b? g? ti?ng Vi?t.
 L?n n?y l? tr?n m?y Laptop m?i c?a t?i, ch?y Fedora Core
 8 x86_64.
 
 T ?? th? c? xvnkb (b?n latest 0.2.9a) v? x-unikey.
 Unikey th? t?i ch?a bao gi? th? ch?y ???c tr?n b?t
 c? platform n?o :).
 
 xvnkb th? ch?y t?t tr?n c?c h? Fedora i386 l?c tr??c,
 nh?ng b?y gi? T
 d?ch th? v?i x86_64 b? l?i. C?i b?n cho i386 b?nh
 th??ng th? khi c?i
 xong, ch?y nh?n ???c th?ng b?o l?i kh?ng preload
 ???c /lib/xvnkb-0.2.9a.
 
 C? ai c? c?ch g? hay gi?i quy?t ???c b? g? tr?n h?
 n?y m?ch cho T v?i.
  
 C?m ?n nhi?u,
 Tuan

We all love trouble my friend

why don't you come tomorrow at the party and have fun with us so you
will forget your troubles

Next year please join the vi-input team and kill all those troubles
 with
us...



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[HanoiLUG] I've got an idea!

2007-12-23 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Ch?o b?n Trung,

? t??ng c?a b?n r?t hay.
T s? follow up xem c? c?ch g? bi?n ? t??ng tr?n g?n v?i hi?n th?c h?n. Hy v?ng 
s? c? ph?n h?i t?ch c?c trong tu?n n?y.
 
Kind regards,
Tuan
- Original Message 
From: Nguyen Dinh Trung nguyendinhtrung...@gmail.com
To: hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 2:43:12 PM
Subject: [HanoiLUG] I've got an idea!


Ch?o m?i ngu?i,

Hi?n nay ph?n giao di?n c?a OpenOffice.org ?? d?ch xong, nh?ng c?c g?i tr? gi?p 
th? v?n c?n r?t nhi?u c?u ch?a d?ch. L?c l??ng t?nh nguy?n vi?n d?ch thu?t c?a 
ch?ng ta hi?n y?u qu?!
Em c? ? t??ng nh? th? n?y, m?i ng??i th? nghe qua v? g?p ? nh?.

Th? nh?t l? trong tr??ng BKHN c? khoa ngo?i ng? ??o t?o Ti?ng Anh k? thu?t ??  
chuy?n d?ch t?i li?u k? thu?t. Li?u ta c? th? li?n h? v?i m?t s? gi?o vi?n 
trong khoa, ?? th? khuy?n kh?ch h? d?ng c?c t?p tin .po c?a b? tr? gi?p 
OpenOffice l?m ?? t?i cho sinh vi?n th?c h?nh kh?ng? V? c?i n?y r?t ??ng chuy?n 
m?n c?a khoa, v? c?ng c?c k? c? ?ch n?a.

Th? hai l? hi?n gi? c?ng c? nhi?u c?ng ty d?ng OpenOffice.org nh? Tr?n Anh, 
Seabank... ta c? th? xin h? t?i tr? cho d? ?n d?ch thu?t n?y.
Em ngh?, n?u OpenOffice.org c? giao di?n v? tr? gi?p ti?ng Vi?t ho?n ch?nh th? 
vi?c s? d?ng c?c c?ng c? v?n ph?ng ??i v?i ng??i m?i h?c s?  d? d?ng h?n. (?t 
ra n? c?ng kh?ng l?m newbie ch?ng m?t nh? MS Office 2007!)

R?t mong m?i ng??i cho ? ki?n ???c kh?ng?




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[HanoiLUG] Chuc mung nam moi

2008-02-08 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Chuc anh David cung toan the dai gia dinh HanoiLUG mot nam moi an khang, thing 
vuong nhe!
 
Tuan

- Original Message 
From: David Tremblay da...@roy-tremblay.net
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2008 3:32:51 PM
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] Chuc mung nam moi





On 
Thu, 
2008-02-07 
at 
13:38 
+0700, 
nm 
wrote:
 
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mng 
n??m 
mi 
c 
l??ng, 
ch?? 
c??c 
b??ng 
ng??y 
c??ng 
contrib 
cho 
cng 
??ng 
 
nhiu 
hn 
^.^
 
 
Nguyen 
Vu 
Hung 
wrote:
 
  
Cho 
em 
x?? 
pam 
mt 
t??,
 

 
  
Ch?? 
c??c 
b??c 
mt 
n??m 
mi 
sc 
khe 
v?? 
th??nh 
??t 
:D
 

 
  
Do 
n??y 
email 
t 
HNLug 
??t 
qu??, 
gi 
ph??t 
email 
cho 
vui, 
c??c 
b??c 
reply
 
  
??im 
danh 
ph??t 
??i 

I 
can 
only 
wish 
everyone 
will 
have 
an 
happy, 
prosperous, 
full 
of 
success
and 
a 
lot 
of 
open 
source 
victories 
for 
the 
lunar 
new  
year



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[HanoiLUG] Saturday lunch post New Year

2008-02-15 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Hi David et al,

It is a great idea. I think anything will be OK. The most important is for 
warming us up in the new potentially coming year.
However, sorry since I can not join with you. I need to stay at home as much as 
possible during this time to ho de (h? ?? :). My family will welcome a new 
baby in next couple days.

Have a good time.
See you in the next times.

Regards,
Tuan

- Original Message 
From: Le Quoc Thai lqt...@gmail.com
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 5:35:03 PM
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] Saturday lunch post New Year


Hi there,

I absolutely agree with David's suggestion that HanoiLUGers should have lunch 
out. And Thao's idea seems to be the best choice, in my opinion. I had enjoy it 
once with my family at reasonable price: around 100K/per head. Mushroom is good 
for your health, and the price is affordable right?


2008/2/15, David Tremblay david at ngowiki.net:

 Le jeudi 14 f?vrier 2008 ? 16:35 +0700, L? Xu?n Th?o a ?crit :
 
 
   Any suggestion ? Who's interested ?
  
 
  I'll be there wherever it is. I suggest L?u N?m (mushroom) though.

 
 
o ?au ?
 
 We're talking about lunch not dinner ?
 


There are several places for such kind of restaurant in Hanoi. Please find out 
more information here. Well, there's one point I would like to emphasize that 
it's very crowded these days there, then once the venue got fixed, we'd better 
make a reservation. 


Ok! Now it's time to register if you can join us.

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Engineer
Expert System  Softcomputing
Institute of Information Technology (VAST)
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[HanoiLUG] Measuring VNPT's ADSL bandwidth quality

2008-03-18 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
David, I agree with you. FPT ADSL is currently the best choice for speed and 
stability. Highly recommend.
We also used it before. Unfortunately, it is not available at our new office. 
However, we will have to stand on two ways again.
The best choice for me now is use both VNPT and Viettel lines. I will also 
install a Linux box for load balancing and fail over between them. I think It 
maybe good for you too, Thai.
 
Kind regards,
Tuan

- Original Message 
From: David Tremblay da...@ngowiki.net
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 4:59:45 PM
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] Measuring VNPT's ADSL bandwidth quality

Le mardi 18 mars 2008 ? 16:38 +0700, Le Quoc Thai a ?crit :
 Dear friends,
 
 Last year, due to our increased number of employees, our ADSL
 connection was upgraded from 512/256Kbps (download/upload) to
 2048/640Kbps. As a result, since November 2007, the new MegaVNN
 package has been applied in which we're charged 700.000VND/per month
 instead of 250.000VND/month. At first, our Internet connection did get
 increased. But gradually, no one can keep our calm with its slow and
 unstable speed, and we are no exception.
 
 To secure our investment, a simple decision was made to 
 
 1) downgrade the service to the normal one after March,
 2) consider to stop MegaVNN, and switch to another ISP.
 
 
 FYI, here is the statistics data on Internet usage at our office after
 nearly five months using new package. (See files attached herewith:
 First screenshot was taken on Feb, the second was on Mar. Smoothwall
 is used as our firewall). As you can see, the highest speed did reach
 152kbytes on Nov. But that's all. The average speed is just 15kbytes.
 
 What do you think? Are you in the same situation? Have you any
 suggestion/advice? What is your choice?

At my office we have two ISP, Viettel and VNPT. Until T?t, Viettel was
faster and more reliable and now Viettel is still faster but many
website are now unaccessible on a random basis. Basically : unusable.

At home I use FPT the smallest package at 250k, it just work I have a
constant upload speed at 64.5kb and download speed is very often much
over 70kb



 
 
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 Engineer
 Expert System  Softcomputing
 Institute of Information Technology (VAST)
 Tel.: (84)-04-961
 Mobile: 095-330-7791 
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[HanoiLUG] Configure sendmail to enable spamfriend test

2008-03-18 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Hi all,

I am trying to configure sendmail to enable spamfriend test like this: 
http://www.sendmail.org/m4/anti_spam.html#delay_check
but it's still throws Relay denied error message to me.

Anyone did this before? Can you help me?
 
Thanks,
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[HanoiLUG] Configure sendmail to enable spamfriend test

2008-03-19 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
This article is exactly what I tried: http://www.technoids.org/spamlovers.html
Anyone has experience with this?
 
Kind regards,
Tuan

- Original Message 
From: Truong Anh Tuan dt...@yahoo.com
To: HanoiLUG hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:24:03 AM
Subject: [HanoiLUG] Configure sendmail to enable spamfriend test

Hi all,

I am trying to configure sendmail to enable spamfriend test like this: 
http://www.sendmail.org/m4/anti_spam.html#delay_check
but it's still throws Relay denied error message to me.

Anyone did this before? Can you help me?
 
Thanks,
Tuan




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[HanoiLUG] Configure sendmail to enable spamfriend test

2008-03-19 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Thanks for your recommendation :)
I will seriously think about it.
 
Kind regards,
Tuan

- Original Message 
From: Jean Christophe Andr? jean-christophe.an...@auf.org
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 9:01:37 PM
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] Configure sendmail to enable spamfriend test

Truong Anh Tuan a ?crit :
 I am trying to configure sendmail to enable spamfriend test like this:
 http://www.sendmail.org/m4/anti_spam.html#delay_check
 but it's still throws Relay denied error message to me.
 Anyone did this before? Can you help me?
Sendmail?! Yurgl!!
So there still is people using that kind of craps?? :-(

Do you have to stick with it or may you consider some
other-than-sendmail-but-still-doing-the-same-just-better software ? ;-)

I very-very-strongly recommend Postfix.
I don't want to start a MTA war here...
Some people may recommend you to use Qmail or many others.
But I don't know anybody still recommending Sendmail now!

And to answer your question, no, really sorry...
I haven't touch any Sendmail configuration for more than 11 years.

-- 
Jean Christophe  ANDR? ? Responsable technique r?gional
Bureau Asie-Pacifique (BAP) ? http://asie-pacifique.auf.org/
Agence universitaire de la Francophonie (AuF) ? http://www.auf.org/
Adresse postale : AUF, 21 L? Th?nh T?ng, T.T. Ho?n Ki?m, H? N?i, Vi?t Nam
T?l. : +84 4 9331108   Fax : +84 4 8247383   Mobile : +84 91 3248747
? Note personnelle : merci d'?viter de m'envoyer des fichiers PowerPoint  ?
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[HanoiLUG] Hỏi thông tin,

2008-04-02 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Hi chi nguyen lam va Jean,

Toi dong y hoan toan voi phan tich cua Jean ve the gioi FOSS noi chung cung nhu 
FOSS cho email noi rieng.
Va 1 goi FOSS co gan nhu day du nhung tinh nang nhu phan tich cua Jean, co the 
dap ung nhu cau cua ban la Zimbra (http://www.zimbra.com/)

Zimbra la 1 goi tich hop, duoc cau thanh tu rat nhieu FOSS nhu Jean neu:
SMTP/MTA dung Postfix.
Mail storage dung he thong files/folders va CSDL MySQL.
AntiVirus dung ClamAV.
Spam filtering dung SpamAssassin.
Ket noi tat ca dung Amavis.
Webmail rat dep va tien dung.

Highly recommend.

Cong ty toi cung dang cung cap services (deployment, training, support, etc.) 
cho cac he thong chay Zimbra. Ban than toi cung co it nhieu kinh nghiem ve san 
pham nay.
Ban can ho tro gi cu trao doi voi toi nhe.
 
Kind regards,
Tuan
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- Original Message 
From: Jean Christophe Andr? jean-christophe.an...@auf.org
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2008 5:18:00 PM
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] H?i th?ng tin,

chi nguyen lam a ?crit :
 Em l? th?nh vi?n m?i gia nh?p, hi?n em l?m vi?c t?i C?n Th?. Em c? m?t
 c?u h?i : hi?n nay c? g?i ch??ng tr?nh n?o m? khi c?i ??t th? c? ??y
 ?? c?c ch??ng tr?nh mail Server : SMTP server, pop3/imap Server,
 webmail ??
Trong tri?t l? c?a Unix th? kh?ng ph?i c? m?t ph?n m?m ?? h?t v? l?m t?t
c? kh?ng t?t l?m. Nh?ng m? ph?i c? m?y ph?n m?m nh?, c?c ph?n m?m l?m
m?t ph?n t?t nh?t.

Th? th? cho SMTP l? Postfix, cho POP3 v? IMAP l? dovecot, cho spam l?
postgrey, v?i SpamAssassin v?i razor v.v., cho virus l? ClamAV, v? ??
k?t n?i t?t c? d?ng amavis.

-- 
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Bureau Asie-Pacifique (BAP) ? http://asie-pacifique.auf.org/
Agence universitaire de la Francophonie (AuF) ? http://www.auf.org/
Adresse postale : AUF, 21 L? Th?nh T?ng, T.T. Ho?n Ki?m, H? N?i, Vi?t Nam
T?l. : +84 4 9331108   Fax : +84 4 8247383   Mobile : +84 91 3248747
? Note personnelle : merci d'?viter de m'envoyer des fichiers PowerPoint  ?
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[HanoiLUG] HanoiLUG Digest, Vol 36, Issue 4

2008-04-02 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Xin chao Lam,

Neu ban can nhac su dung Zimbra, co the xem tai lieu rat day du tai: 
http://www.zimbra.com/community/documentation.html
 
Kind regards,
Tuan-
Weblog: http://blog.iwayvietnam.com/tuanta/

- Original Message 
From: chi nguyen lam lcnguye...@gmail.com
To: hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2008 5:24:29 PM
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] HanoiLUG Digest, Vol 36, Issue 4

C?m ?n Christope,
Hi?n nay c? t?i li?u n?o h??ng d?n c?i ??t tr?n v?n m?t mail server kh?ng ?
th?n ?i

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than Re: Contents of HanoiLUG digest...

Today's Topics:

   1. Re: [Discuss] Hardy Heron Vietnamese CD/DVD cover HELP
  (Le Quoc Thai)
   2. Re: [Discuss] Hardy Heron Vietnamese CD/DVD cover HELP
  (David Tremblay)
   3. H?i th?ng tin, (chi nguyen lam)
   4. Re: H?i th?ng tin, (Hai V. Nguyen)
   5. Re: security comparison Mac OS X, Vista SP1,  Ubuntu 7.10 was
  Re: HanoiLUG Digest, Vol 35, Issue 32 (NAHieu)
   6. Re: H?i th?ng tin, (Jean Christophe Andr?)


-- Forwarded message --
From: Le Quoc Thai lqt...@gmail.com
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 15:35:02 +0700
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] [Discuss] Hardy Heron Vietnamese CD/DVD cover HELP
Hi Lars,

2008/3/31, Lars Adermalm lars.adermalm at gmail.com:  Hi Hai and Ivan,

- Finally a question rather than a suggestion.  I  read/interpret theslogan 
ubuntu - linux for human beings as ubuntu, contrary to otherversions of 
linux, does not require expert computer skills and can beused by anybody that 
can use a PC with other operating systems, i.e.any human being. Loai nguoi I 
interpret more like the humanity. Ifmy interpretation of the intentions of 
the Canonical is correct, thenperhaps linux cho moi nguoi or something the 
like would be a bettertranslation. :-\ 

Good luck / Lars



I share the same with you to translate Ubuntu - linux for human beings as 
Linux cho m?i ng??i.

Thai L.Q.


-- Forwarded message --
From: David Tremblay da...@ngowiki.net
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:36:31 +0700
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] [Discuss] Hardy Heron Vietnamese CD/DVD cover HELP
Le lundi 31 mars 2008 ? 22:27 +0700, Lars Adermalm a ?crit :
 Hi Hai and Ivan,

 Looks great. Just a few suggestions.

Looks great yes, I love the new artwork

 - But more importantly I feel that the bottom text carries the wrong
 message and needs a careful review. It is provided without any
 warranty, without even the implied warranty of merchantability or
 fitness for a particular purpose now reads something like This
 programme is provided without any guarantee and may not be used for
 commercial or other purposes :-\

Everybody should knows that Linux can be use for commercial purpose : I
suggest to say :

?It is provided without any warranty, without even the implied warranty
of merchantability or fitness for a particular purpose
This mean that you can use it for any purpose you want, including money
making, but don't expect any guarantee


 - Finally a question rather than a suggestion.  I  read/interpret the
 slogan ubuntu - linux for human beings as ubuntu, contrary to other
 versions of linux, does not require expert computer skills and can be
 used by anybody that can use a PC with other operating systems, i.e.
 any human being. Loai nguoi I interpret more like the humanity.
 If my interpretation of the intentions of the Canonical is correct,
 then perhaps linux cho moi nguoi or something the like would be a
 better translation. :-\

I think they really meant for humanity. Quite pretentious  I admit.

I also like Linux for everybody, it's up to you...



 Good luck / Lars

 Hai Nguyen Thanh wrote:
  Hi Ivan,
 
  I just updated Vietnamese text for the cover, attached
  is JPG file for preview.
 
  I read the translated text, mostly it's OK to me and
  understandable. However there are some words that I
  feel need to discuss, as translated IT English into
  Vietnamese is not easy. I modified the text a bit, not
  change the whole meaning, just made it understandable
  and sound Vietnamese :). If possible, please ask
  Onishidato about my changes and let me know his
  opinion. Also everybody in the loop please have a look
  at the text and let me know if I need to change any
  thing, all opinions are welcome :)
 
  Secondly, that PSD file used MyriadProWeb font which I
  don't have, then I use a similar Myriad Web font for
  

[HanoiLUG] Inquiry about Hanoilug (From BeijingLug for Zdnet Asia)

2008-04-25 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Hi all,

We see HanoiLUG has been more active for few years, especially, since last year.

I think David's answers are enough. However, anyone may amend to make them 
better.
After getting all amendment, Bac Quynh, please respond this on behalf of 
HanoiLUG.

 Kind regards,
Tuan
-
Weblog: http://blog.iwayvietnam.com/tuanta/



- Original Message 
From: David Tremblay da...@ngowiki.net
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 5:58:51 PM
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] Inquiry about Hanoilug (From BeijingLug for Zdnet Asia)

Le vendredi 25 avril 2008 ? 14:21 +0700, Vu Do Quynh a ?crit :
 Hi all,
 
 I received an inquiry from Frederic Muller, President of the Beijing  
 Linux user group (BLUG) as follows:
 
 ===Citation===
 
 On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Frederic Muller fred at beijinglug.org 
 wrote:
 
 Good morning everyone!
 
 I want to thank this group for being so responsive. To answer the questions
 I can see in this email exchange, yes I would love to be introduced to the
 HanoiLUG (and also the HoChiMinh LUG - but the HanoiLUG can probably do
 that) and I have been in contact with Soon-Son Kwon (Shawn) from kldp.org in
 Korea.
 
 The purpose of contacting all those LUGs is for Victoria Ho from ZDNet Asia
 to write a second article (she wrote a first one which you can find here:
 http://www.zdnetasia.com/news/software/0,39044164,62039551,00.htm ) about
 LUGs in Asia. I believe there are a lot more than just 3 LUGs to talk about
 and one problem Victoria had, is that people did not send any response to
 her emails.
 
 I therefore offered my help in order to give credits to all the people like
 us who need to be represented and show we are a strong and united community.
 
 Victoria has 4 questions to ask to LUGs and I am just trying to get in
 touch with as many as possible (already contacted about 25-30 LUGs in Asia)
 and get the answers by the end of this month if possible.
 
 The 4 questions are:
 
 * How was 2007 for your group?
 * What are some changes you foresee in your plans for 2008?
 * How has membership changed in the last few years? More vocal now?
 More
 members now?
 * Is the focus of your group discussion changing from a few years?

 Looking forward to hear from Japanese LUGs, and soon Vietnamese LUGs.
 
 Thanks a lot in advance.
 
 Kind regards,
 
 Frederic Muller
 Beijing LUG President
 Yonghe Plaza - Room C609
 28 Andingmen dong da jie - DongCheng District
 Beijing China 17
 m: (86) 139 1001 8393
 t: (86) 10-84195025-6
 w: www.beijinglug.org
 
 ==End of citation==
 
 So, Obviously we are going to write a draft and submit it to the list  
 before sending it to Fred Muller. So we can have some discussion under  
 this thread.

?I think the question should be translated to vietnamese so everyone can
speak freely


 * How was 2007 for your group?

Very good, more media exposure more members, more activities. More
active members too and new initiatives. We receive funding too. 


 * What are some changes you foresee in your plans for 2008?

We don't really have plan we're a self help group, but some people wish
we become more active at creating solution to help and to be more
involved in the overall linux community

We also receive donation from Intel in the form of a server and Netnam -
a local ISP, in term of bandwidth to create an official mirror for the
two most popular gnu/linux distro in Hanoi.


 * How has membership changed in the last few years? More vocal now?
  More members now?

More member and certain more members that use not to talk. The one who
talk keep talking, There's a majority of lurkers but it is accepted



 * Is the focus of your group discussion changing from a few years?

Not really different the main topic is to fix traditional issue
vietnamese have with computing under linux.
However with the involvement of certain members in the overall GNU/linux
community I think its changing to a more proactive role






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[HanoiLUG] [Fwd: [Asiasource-l] Is Linux Sysadmin on high demand in your country?]

2008-05-09 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Jean, you are definitely correct :).
It's also what I thought about.

 Kind regards,
Tuan



- Original Message 
From: Jean Christophe Andr? jean-christophe.an...@auf.org
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Friday, May 9, 2008 6:52:00 PM
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] [Fwd: [Asiasource-l] Is Linux Sysadmin on high demand 
in your country?]

Nguyen Dinh Nam a ?crit :
 On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 10:48 AM, NAHieu nahieu at gmail.com
 mailto:nahieu at gmail.com wrote:

 BTW, is it really *possible* to find a linux sysadmin job in Hanoi???
 Is it possible to have salary over $1000/month for a guy who knows
 a lot about network infrastructure, network services, database,
 web programming, can code a lot of programming languages including
 assembly at lowest level (16bit, firmware), have good
 understanding about computer security, have great understanding
 about Linux kernel, and can write kernel code, and can
 speak/read/write English very well?
 If so, my friend might be interested.

 If there is really someone with these skills willing to work long term
 in Hanoi, I'll definitely pay him at least $1000/month. Just tell him
 to send me an email.
And personally I would even say that $1000 is not that much for all
these skills at once...

That's why skilled technical people would usually try to find a job in a
foreign company (or even abroad) first. And because of that, the country
would lack skilled people and grow slower at technology...

Of course we all know that Vietnamese companies are not rich enough --
so they say -- to give a good salary, but real skilled people have a
real price too!

-- 
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Bureau Asie-Pacifique (BAP) ? http://asie-pacifique.auf.org/
Agence universitaire de la Francophonie (AuF) ? http://www.auf.org/
Adresse postale : AUF, 21 L? Th?nh T?ng, T.T. Ho?n Ki?m, H? N?i, Vi?t Nam
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[HanoiLUG] [Fwd: OpenOffice.org Việt 3.0 được dịch hoàn toàn !!!]

2008-05-22 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Congratulations to the team and personally to Nguyen Dinh Trung (iWay staff :); 
and also to HanoiLUG as well as FOSS communities in Vietnam.
It's so good win for you and all of us.

Hope we it will be better and better for all of us in the future.
Viva FOSS!!!

 Kind regards,
Tuan



- Original Message 
From: Vu Do Quynh vu.do.qu...@auf.org
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org; ubuntu-vi at 
lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 11:04:22 AM
Subject: [HanoiLUG] [Fwd: OpenOffice.org Vi?t 3.0 ???c d?ch ho?n to?n !!!]

For your information
-- 
M. VU DO Quynh
AUF (T? ch?c h?p t?c ?H Ph?p ng?)
Campus num?rique francophone (CNF) de Hanoi
Nh? D, ng? 42 T? Quang B?u
T?l.: (84-4) 868.48.85 ; Fax: (84-4) 869.45.07
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[HanoiLUG] Why was HOSE down for 3 days?

2008-06-04 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Ai n?i l? Linux kh?ng ready cho c?c h? th?ng l?n?!!! :)

VD n?y matching ??ng v?o ch?ng kho?n lu?n nh?: NYSE BUILDS GLOBAL TRADING 
PLATFORM ON RED HAT LINUX
http://go.techtarget.com/r/3769548/82182

 Kind regards,
Tuan



- Original Message 
From: Hung Nguyen Vu vuhung16plus+sh...@gmail.com
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2008 3:39:51 PM
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] Why was HOSE down for 3 days?

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Le Quoc Thai lqthai at gmail.com wrote:
 According to what was reported yesterday here, the main reason was the
 operating system's error (VMSOpen -an Unix OS).So it's software failure,
 not hardware one, confirmed by HP experts in Australia. They were convinced
 by the fact that the backup system at HOSE was unable to replace the main
 one in case of the sudden failure.
HP n?i ??y l? l?i software, ngh?a l? kh?ng ph?i l?i ph?n c?ng do h?
b?n server.
N?u ??c th?m m?t ch?t s? th?y ??y l? l?i c?a h? ?i?u h?nh ?? ph?n bi?t ???c v?i
software qu?n l? ch?ng kho?n ch?y tr?n h? ?i?u h?nh ??.

V? h? c?ng kh?ng n?i g? v? security.


 Surprisingly, as the explanation of a HOSE Vice general director here , the
 error is not related to OS's services. Moreover, beside public opinion
 around a HOSE trick to control the market -meaning no system error at all,
 just human fault, there's an open question: if the system was hacked or
 not?
C? ai n?i g? v? human error ??u nh?? M?nh kh?ng th?y b?o n?o n?i.
M?nh ch? ?o?n th?i, ??y l? l?i h? ?i?u h?nh do kh?ng update th??ng xuy?n.


 I myselft has some questions:

 How secure is VMSOpen? Why is it chosen to be use at HOSE?
C?c h? th?ng t?i ch?nh b?n n?y c?ng v?y, ch?y to?n mainframe hay nh?ng
server c?c m?nh
c?a nh?ng bigboy nh? Sun hay IBM, HP.
M?nh ngh? h? d?ng OpenVMS ch? v? nh?ng ph?n m?m c? s?n ?? ch?y tr?n h?
?i?u h?nh ??.

 Why did the HOSE's general director say that no real cause found
 Will this trouble occur again if VMSOpen is replaced with OpenSolaris or
 BSD? -this is the 2nd time HOSE system was down.
??ng thuy?t ph?c :D, Linux kh? c? ch? ? ??y ??u.
??i v?i nh?ng h? th?ng c?n t? l? uptime cao nh? nh?ng h? th?ng t?i ch?nh n?y,
Linux v? BSD ch?a bao gi? ??oc ki?m nghi?m ch?nh ??ng.

 BTW, it's interesting to see that HOSE website is now being hosted on
 Microsoft-IIS/6.0 server(s).
?? ch? l? website th?i m?, server ch?nh n?m ? ch? kh?c, 95% l? kh?ng
routed v?o Internet.

-- 
Best Regards,
Nguyen Hung Vu ( Nguy?n V? H?ng )
vuhung16plus{remo...@gmail.dot.com , YIM: vuhung16
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[HanoiLUG] Fwd: Tiếp: Thư gốc từ chí nh phủ

2008-06-10 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Hi OO localization team,

Why don't us to request funds from the government to put our localized version 
of OpenOffice alive?
I think giving funds to our OO localization team is better way for the 
government than starting from scratch.

 Kind regards,
Tuan


- Original Message 
From: Hung Nguyen Vu vuhung16plus+sh...@gmail.com
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 2:37:37 PM
Subject: [HanoiLUG] Fwd: Ti?p: Th? g?c t? ch?nh ph?

FYI


-- Forwarded message --
From: Clytie Siddall cly...@riverland.net.au
Date: Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 4:13 PM
Subject: Ti?p: Th? g?c t? ch?nh ph?
To: l10n at vi.openoffice.org


H?nh nh? ch?nh ph? ?? kh?ng bi?t ch?ng ta ?? Vi?t ho? OOo ... !!

Th? ?? chuy?n ti?p:


From: Nguyen Thuy Nhi nh...@most.gov.vn
Date: 04 Jun 2008 4:46:34  GMT-04:00
To: Louis.Suarez-Potts at Sun.COM
Cc: Nguyen Trung Quynh quynhnt at most.gov.vn
Subject: OOo localisation in Vietnam

Dear Mr. Suarez-potts,

Its was very nice to meet with you at the OOoCon 2007 in Barcelona.

We are from the Ministry of Science and Technology of Vietnam. We are assigned 
by the Prime Minister to be responsible of implementing the national OSS 
Project in Vietnam (attached is his Decision No. 235/QD-TTg approving the 
master plan on OSS application and development in Vietnam).

we are planing to localize the OOo ver 3.0 for the periode 2008 - 2009.

Could you please advise us on how we could do that ? How to develop new local 
features ? Which problems ocurred to solve and how to distribute to the 
community ?



etc..

Thank you very much and look to hearing from you,

Best regards,

Nguyen Thuy Nhi
Deputy Director
The National OSS Project

PM Decree_OSS_235.doc

Kh?ng th? g?i t?p tin ??nh k?m cho h?p th? chung, nh?ng m?nh ?? sao ch?p to?n 
b? v?n b?n b?n d??i:


THE GOVERNMENT  The Socialist Republic of Vietnam
 Number: 235/QD-TTgIndependence-Freedom-Happiness

Hanoi, 2 March 2004


DecISION by the Prime Minister
Approving the Master Plan Applying and Developing Open Source Software
in Vietnam for the 2004-2008 period

The Prime Minster

Based upon the Government Organization Law dated 25 December 2001;

Based upon the Government Resolution numbered 07/2000/NQ-CP dated 5 June 2000 
on the establishment and development of the software industry for 2000-2005;

Based upon the Prime Minister's Decision numbered  81/2001/QD-TTg dated 24 May 
2001 on approval of the Action Plan to implement the Polit Bureau's 58-CT/TW 
Directive of 17 October 2000 to promote application and development of 
information technology for the modernization and industrialization of period 
2001-2005;

In consideration of the proposal by the Minister of Science and Technology,

Decides:

Article 1. Approval of the Master Plan Applying and Developing open source 
software in Vietnam for the 2004-2008 period as follows:
Objective:
Accelerating the application and development of open source software (OSS), 
enhancing copyrights protection and cutting costs of software purchase, 
promoting the development of Vietnam's information technology in general and 
software industry in particular.
Forming a base of competent technical experts who master advanced technology 
and leverage their creativity in OSS application and development.
Creating some typical IT products that respond particularly to domestic 
conditions and practical needs of OSS development.

Project fundamentals.
Major tasks:
Establishing policies to promote application and development of open source 
software.
Establishing and enforcing mechanisms, policies to encourage OSS application 
and development in order to delegate the participation of training, education, 
and research organizations in OSS training and research; encourage overseas 
Vietnamese and foreign experts as well as international companies and 
institutions to invest in business development, technology transfer and 
training of OSS in Vietnam.
Stipulating the use of OSS in the state sector.
b)  Promoting the use OSS applications.
Organizing pilot application of OSS, first in some ministries, organizations 
and local areas, later proliferating those applications nation wide.
Utilizing OSS in some professional applications and national defense. 
Establishing and utilizing high productivity computer systems and OSS-based 
network calculating to find solutions to practical problems that require high 
calculation capacity of ministries, sectors, and localities throughout the 
country.
c)  Providing human resource training for OSS application and development.
Organizing the training of OSS teachers and professor for universities, 
colleges, vocational schools, as well as instructors for state officers and 
staff training.
Establishing a competent base of experts capable of developing and implementing 
OSS applications in the ministries, sectors, and localities.
Providing for the training of technical staffs to assist with the 

[HanoiLUG] Về việc Việt hoá OpenOffic e.org 3.0

2008-06-11 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
What is it? Is it wrong with my eyes?
It's extreme unbelievable to know that they still want to start localizing OOo 
from scratch after knowing that our team have started doing that.
Hope we can contact with Mr. Nguyen Trung Quynh to arrange some better things 
for Vietnamese.

I am looking forward some good news from you. Come on, HanoiLUG OOo 
localization team!!!

 Kind regards,
Tuan


- Original Message 
From: Phan Th?i Trung phanthaitr...@gmail.com
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org; nhint at 
most.gov.vn
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 12:57:26 PM
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] V? vi?c Vi?t ho? OpenOffice.org 3.0



V?o 08:29 Ng?y 11 th?ng 6 n?m 2008, chairuou chairuou at gmail.com ?? vi?t:



2008/6/10 Nguyen Dinh Trung nguyendinhtrung141 at gmail.com:

Qua h?m th? chung c?a HanoiLug, t?i ???c bi?t ch?nh ph? ?ang mong mu?n th?c 
hi?n vi?c d?ch OpenOffice.org 3.0 trong n?m 2008-2009.




V?o 08:58 Ng?y 11 th?ng 6 n?m 2008, Nguyen Thuy Nhi nhint at most.gov.vn ?? 
vi?t:

K/g c?c anh Th?i Trung v? ??nh Trung,
 
C?m ?n c?c anh ?? c? th?
trao ??i. Ch?ng t?i c?ng ??nh gi? cao s? tham gia v? ??ng g?p nhi?t
t?nh c?a c?c anh ??i v?i s? nghi?p PMNM t?i Vi?t Nam.
 
Ch?ng t?i c?ng th??ng xuy?n
???c c?p nh?t v? c?ng vi?c Vi?t h?a c?a c?c anh qua c?c ??ng nghi?p ?
AUF v? IFI v? c?ng hy v?ng s? g?p ph?n th?c ??y v? qu?ng b? nh?ng k?t
qu? c?a c?c anh trong th?i gian t?i.
 
Tuy nhi?n, khi li?n h? v?i SUN, b?n t?i c? 2 l? do :
- C?ng vi?c ch?ng t?i mong mu?n l?m trong 2009-2010 kh?ng ch? d?ng ? Vi?t h?a, 
m? l? localization (th?m m?t s? t?nh n?ng)
- Sun ?? h?p t?c v?i Trung Qu?c trong ph?t tri?n b? RedOffice n?n ch?ng t?i 
mu?n t?n d?ng kinh nghi?m v? chuy?n gia c?a h?.
 
Gi?m ??c D? ?n Qu?c gia l?
anh Nguy?n Trung qu?nh (?? c? th? trao ??i tr?c ti?p v?i c?c anh tr?n
di?n ??n), anh Qu?nh s? c? nh?ng trao ??i tr?c ti?p v?i c?c anh th?m v?
v?n ?? n?y, v? m? ra nh?ng s? h?p t?c trong t??ng lai.
 
M?t l?n n?a c?m ?n c?c anh v? ch?c c?c anh lu?n m?nh kho? v? th?nh c?ng.
 
Nhi 
 
 


 From: Nguyen Dinh Trung [mailto:nguyendinhtrung141 at gmail.com]
Sent: Tue 10/06/2008 8:33 PM
To: Nguyen Thuy Nhi
Cc: Hanoi Linux Users Group; Clytie Siddall; Nguyen Trung Quynh; 
Vi.OpenOffice.Grp at gmail.com
Subject: V? vi?c Vi?t ho? OpenOffice.org 3.0


Qua h?m th? chung c?a HanoiLug, t?i ???c bi?t ch?nh ph? ?ang mong
mu?n th?c hi?n vi?c d?ch OpenOffice.org 3.0 trong n?m 2008-2009.
C?
l? ch? kh?ng th??ng xuy?n tham gia v?o HanoiLug v? h?m th? l10n c?a
nh?ng ng??i b?n ??a ho? ph?n m?m ngu?n m? Vi?t Nam n?n ch?a r?, d? ?n
OpenOffice ?? ???c Vi?t ho? ho?n to?n trong phi?n b?n 3.0, nh? c?ng s?c
c?a c? Clytie Siddall clytie at riverland.net.au v? c?c th?nh vi?n trong nh?m 
d?ch OpenOffice (h?m th? Vi.OpenOffice.Grp at gmail.com. Hi?n b?n d?ch ?ang 
???c hi?u ??nh nh? c? s? gi?p ?? c?a nhi?u t?nh nguy?n vi?n t?ch c?c nh? anh 
Nguy?n V? H?ng vuhung16plus at gmail.com hay Minh Ngoc Le cumeo89 at 
gmail.com.

Theo
th? c?a ch?, t?i hi?u l? ch?nh ph? ?ang ??nh Vi?t ho? l?i t? ??u b?
ph?n m?m OpenOffice.org. L? m?t th?nh vi?n c?a nh?m d?ch OpenOffice t?i
Vi?t Nam, t?i r?t quan t?m t?i d? ?n d?ch n?y. Tuy b?n d?ch OpenOffice
3.0 hi?n nay v?n c?n nhi?u l?i, nh?ng vi?c th?c hi?n m?t b?n d?ch ho?n
to?n m?i theo t?i l? kh?ng c?n thi?t. Thi?t ngh?, n?u ch?ng ta c? th?
c?ng nhau ho?n thi?n l?i b?n d?ch hi?n nay, s?a l?i c?c l?i c? ph?p v?
ho?n ch?nh ph?n tr? gi?p ti?ng Vi?t th? c?ng vi?c s? hi?u qu? h?n l?
d?ch l?i to?n b? t? ??u.

R?t mong nh?n ???c th? h?i ?m c?a ch?.


V?o 19:36 Ng?y 10 th?ng 6 n?m 2008, Thai Trung Phan phanthaitrung at 
dhxd.edu.vn ?? vi?t:
Ch?o ch? Nhi,

T?i l? Trung th?nh vi?n c?a nh?m Linux/ngu?n m? H? N?i. 

T?i v?a ??c ???c b?n FWD email c?a ch? h?i h?ng Sun k?m Q? c?a Th?
t??ng Khi?m v? Vi?t ho? OOo. Th?c t? c?ng ??ng Linux/ngu?n m? Vi?t Nam
?? ?ang tham gia Vi?t ho? nhi?u b?n ph?n m?m trong ?? c? OOo. C?ng vi?c
n?y kh?ng ch? c? nhi?u ti?n m?i l?m ???c m? n? ??i h?i ph?i c? nhi?t
huy?t, c?ng s?c v? th?i gian g?n b? l?u d?i m?i l?m ???c. T?i c?ng tham
gia nh?m d?ch thu?t t?i li?u OOo v? ?? d?ch ???c nhi?u b?n trong m?t
th?i gian d?i. T?i c?ng thu?c c?ng ??ng Javavietnam, t? ch?c ?? t?c
??ng tr?c ti?p ??n h?ng Sun ?? ??a n?i ??a Vi?t Nam v?o Java.

Kh?ng bi?t trong nh?m HanoiLUG ?? c? li?n h? v?i ch? ch?a, nh?ng th?t
ti?c n?u nh? Ch?nh ph? ?ang t?m ???ng trong khi ch?ng t?i ?? l?m v? s?
d?ng Vi?t ho? OOo t? l?u. N?u c? th?, mong ch? v? d? ?n c? li?n h? v?i
ch?ng t?i  c?ng ??ng HanoiLUG, t?i mong s? l? c?u n?i ?? OOo ti?ng
Vi?t c? th? ??n v?i ng??i s? d?ng VN.

Th?n m?n, ch?c th?nh c?ng
Phan Th?i Trung
Khoa C?ng ngh? th?ng tin, Tr??ng ??i h?c X?y d?ng 
FYI, reply from Ms Nhi, quoted 2 mails from us to chi Nhi. 
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[HanoiLUG] V? vi?c Vi?t hoá OpenOffice.o rg 3.0

2008-06-12 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Ch?o ch? Nhi,

Xin ph?p ???c m?n ??m v?i t? c?ch l? m?t th?nh vi?n HanoiLUG v? c?ng ??ng m? 
m? n?i chung.

T?i kh?ng mu?n ph?i ?ao to, b?a l?n g? ? ??y. C? th? trong thread ?ang b?n 
c?ch th?c h?p l? nh?t ?? Localizing OOo, theo t?i (v? ch?c h?n l? c?ng c?a h?u 
h?t m?i ng??i trong c?ng ??ng PMNM Vi?t Nam), ch?nh ph? v? c? th? l? c? quan 
ch?, ??n v? ?ang ch?u tr?ch nhi?m ch?nh trong vi?c n?y, n?n c?n nh?c thay v? b? 
ngu?n l?c l?m t? ??u (r?t t?n k?m v? c?n kh?ng ?t kh? kh?n th?ch th?c), h?y 
chuy?n m?t ph?n funds ?? cho c?ng ??ng (d? nhi?n l? ph?i r?t c? t? ch?c, ?? ??m 
b?o ti?n ???c ??a v?o ??ng ch?, tr?nh th?t tho?t thi?t h?i cho b?n th?n nh? 
n??c v? c?ng ??ng PMNM Vi?t Nam) ?? h? tr? th?c hi?n d? ?n. Ph?a q?i c? quan 
c?ng v?n c? Project Leader ?? ?i?u ph?i, th?m ch? add-on th?m nh?ng resources 
c? th? kh?c nh? infrastructure,
 marketing... ?? v?n h?nh t?t nh?t d? ?n Vi?t Ho? n?y t?o ra s?n ph?m th?c s? 
t?i tay v? nh?n ???c s? ?ng h? r?ng r?i c?a c?ng ??ng ng??i d?ng.

V?i thi?n ? tr?n ch?c ch?n l? c?ng ch?a ??. T?i ch? mu?n nh?n m?nh v?o, l?m r? 
m? h?nh khung c?ch th?c t? ch?c, v?n h?nh d? ?n Vi?t Ho? n?y v? ??i ?i?u ?? ch? 
v? q?i c? quan hi?u r? h?n m?t ph?n suy ngh? c?a c?ng ??ng nh?ng ng??i l?m 
v?/ho?c s? d?ng PMNM.

P.S. ?? nh?c th?m, xin gi?i ngh?a: localizing d?ch ngang ch?c ch?n l? Vi?t 
Ho?. Ngh?a ??y ?? c?a c?m t? n?y d? l? ti?ng Anh hay ti?ng Vi?t v?n ch?nh l? ? 
m? ch? ?? n?i ra trong th? tr??c th?i: d?ch + ?i?u ch?nh, th?m b?t ch?c n?ng 
cho ph? h?p v?i ng??i Vi?t.

 Kind regards,
Tuan


- Original Message 
From: Nguyen Thuy Nhi nh...@most.gov.vn
To: Nguyen Dinh Trung nguyendinhtrung141 at gmail.com; Hanoi Linux Users 
Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Cc: Nguyen Trung Quynh quynhnt at most.gov.vn
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 10:55:50 AM
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] V? vi?c Vi?t ho? OpenOffice.org 3.0


Ch?o anh Trung,
 
Xin c?m ?n s? quan t?m c?a anh. Tr??c h?t ch?ng t?i c?ng xin n?i ?? c?c anh em 
hi?u r?ng : ch?ng t?i kh?ng ph?i chuy?n gia k? thu?t v? PMNM, nh?ng th?y nh?ng 
l?i ?ch c?a PMNM ?em l?i n?n ?? li?u l?nh th?c ??y s? nghi?p n?y. Ch?ng t?i 
?? g?p r?t nhi?u kh? kh?n n?n mong mu?n th? nhi?u nh?ng k?t qu? ??t ???c c?n 
nhi?u h?n ch?.
 
Tuy nhi?n m?y n?m qua, ch?ng t?i ?? n? l?c ??a PMNM, tr??c h?t v?o ???c trong 
c? ch? ch?nh s?ch (Quy?t ??nh 235 c?a Th? t??ng, Q? 169 c?a Th? t??ng ?u ti?n 
PMNM , Danh m?c PMNM khuy?n kh?ch d?ng trong c?c c? quan nh? n??c, Ch? th? c?a 
B? Gi?o d?c ??o t?o ??a PMNM v?o c?c tr??ng h?c, ...), v?o trong th?c ti?n ??i 
s?ng (h? th?ng th?ng tin c?a c?c c? quan ??ng trong c? n??c, ??a PMNM ?ng d?ng 
trong an ninh, qu?c ph?ng, th? ?i?m tri?n khai t?i m?t s? c? quan nh? n??c v? 
??a ph??ngm, ...), c?c ho?t ??ng n?ng cao nh?n th?c t?i ng??i d?ng (chuy?n ?? 
PMNM tr?n VTV, tr?n t?p ch? Tin h?c v? ??i s?ng, chu?n b? m?t lo?t b?i gi?ng v? 
Ooo tr?n VTV2,  ho?ng lo?t c?c chuy?n ?? PMNM trong c?c h?i th?o l?n h?ng n?m 
v? ICT : h?i th?o h?p t?c ph?t tri?n
 c?a B? TT-TT, Tu?n Tin h?c c?a VAIP, ??a ch? ?? PMNM v?o n?i dung thi Olympic 
tin h?c h?ng n?m c?a VN, nhi?u h?i th?o t?i c?c ??a ph??ng, ...
 
Ngo?i ra r?t nhi?u n? l?c kh?c : v?n ??ng Ch?nh ph? b? phi?u tr?ng trong cu?c 
b?nh ch?n c?a ISO th?ng qua OOXML, ...
 
Ch?ng t?i c?ng r?t mu?n l?m c?c c?ng vi?c ho?nh tr?ng h?n, nh?ng kinh ph? v? 
nh?n l?c r?t eo h?p. Ch?ng t?i m?i tho?ng ngh? ??n nh?ng vi?c thi?t th?c h?n 
cho n?m sau n?n m?i c? c?u chuy?n b?n ??a h?a OpenOffice v? b? sung th?m 
nh?ng t?nh n?ng m?i (anh David Tremblay n?i c? th? th?m ??n 500 t?nh n?ng).
 
R?t mong c?c anh ch? b?o th?m v? mong nh?n ???c s? h?p t?c v? ?ng h? c?a c?c 
anh trong t??ng lai.
 
Ch?c c?c anh s?c kho? v? th?nh c?ng.
 
NHI


 From: Nguyen Dinh Trung [mailto:nguyendinhtrung141 at gmail.com]
Sent: Thu 12/06/2008 8:04 PM
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group
Cc: Nguyen Thuy Nhi; Nguyen Trung Quynh
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] V? vi?c Vi?t ho? OpenOffice.org 3.0


M?t v?n ?? quan tr?ng kh?c ch?ng ta ch?a ??a ra th?o lu?n, l? l?m sao ?? truy?n 
b? OpenOffice r?ng r?i h?n, ?? d?n d?n thay th? cho MS Office. N?u ch?nh ph? ta 
ch? ?? ra c?c ngh? quy?t, c?c v?n b?n ph?p l? mang t?nh khuy?n kh?ch th? ch?a 
??. Li?u B? KH v? CN, sau khi quan t?m ??n OpenOffice, c? ??nh t? ch?c c?c h?at 
??ng qu?ng b? cho OpenOffice kh?ng? V? d?, khi Microsoft sang Vi?t Nam, t?i 
th?y tr?n c?c ???ng ph?, c?t ?i?n n?o c?ng c? b?ng r?n Nh?ng anh h?ng th?m 
l?ng. N?u OpenOffice n?i ri?ng v? Linux c?ng c?c ph?n m?m ngu?n m? kh?c c?ng 
c? c? h?i nh? v?y, th? c?ng ??ng ngu?n m? t?i n??c ta m?i ph?t tri?n nhanh 
ch?ng ???c.

Kh?ng bi?t ch? Nhi v? anh Trung Qu?nh c? k? ho?ch g? li?n quan ??n vi?c truy?n 
b? ph?n m?m ngu?n m? cho ng??i d?ng cu?i nh? v?y ch?a?
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2008-06-13 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Ch?o ch? Nhi,

C?m ?n ch? ?? tr? l?i s?m.
B?n th?n t?i coi ??y l? m?t s? kh?ng ??nh cho s? h? tr? c?a nh? n??c ta, c? th? 
l? t? q?i c? quan t?i c?c l? l?c c?a c?ng ??ng PMNM.

T?i bi?t, x?y d?ng ???c ??y ?? c?c hang m?c c?ng vi?c ?? ???c ph? duy?t, ti?n 
t?i c? funds cho c?c c?ng vi?c lo?i n?y l? kh?ng h? d?. Nh? th? tr??c, t?i ch? 
mu?n nh?n m?nh v?o vi?c trong khi th?c hi?n x?y d?ng c?c h?ng m?c c?ng vi?c ?? 
chuy?n ph? duy?t, q?i c? quan n?n tham kh?o c?ng ??ng ?? nh?n ???c s? h? tr? 
c?n thi?t, ??c bi?t l? trong c?c c?ng vi?c m? c?ng ??ng ?? v? ?ang th?c hi?n 
t?t nh? d?ch GUI, documentation.
B?n th?n t?i kh?ng thu?c team d?ch OOo Vi?t Nam, nh?ng c? quan h? kh? m?t thi?t 
v?i h?, ??c bi?t l? qua HanoiLUG. T?i ngh?, HanoiLUG ch?nh l? k?nh th?ng tin 
h?u hi?u ?? ch? v? q?i c? quan tham kh?o ? ki?n c?ng ??ng (th?c t?, c?c th?nh 
vi?n HanoiLUG ?? ch? nh?n ???c th?ng tin forward t? 1 th?nh vi?n kh?c t? v?i 
ng?y tr??c m?i bi?t m?t s? vi?c q?i c? quan ?ang trao ??i v?i Sun v? c? 1 
thread d?i ??n ng?y h?m nay).

V? vi?c l?m sao c? th? ??a ra list c?c h?ng m?c c?ng vi?c (ngo?i d?ch thu?t) 
chi ti?t, th?m ch? ??n nh?n c?ng th?c hi?n (manday/month), c? nh?n t?i t? th?y 
l? kh?ng ?? ngu?n l?c th?i gian ?? t? l?m ra, m? n?u t?i c? l?n m? l?m th? c?ng 
kh?ng ph?i l? c?ch t?t nh?t.
Theo ? ki?n ri?ng c?a t?i, q?i c? quan n?n x?y d?ng ra m?t b? khung c?ng vi?c 
chu?n bao g?m master plan, task list v? c? estimated resources c?ng t?t. ?? 
th?c hi?n vi?c n?y t?t, q?i c? quan th?m ch? c? th? m?i m?t s? chuy?n gia 
v?/ho?c th?nh vi?n t?ch c?c trong c?ng ??ng PMNM (t?i recommend lu?n anh Nguy?n 
??nh Trung) ?? c?ng t?c, h? tr? (d? nhi?n l? theo ngu?n kinh ph? d? ki?n cho d? 
?n - ri?ng m?n n?y t?i kh?ng r? c?ch th?c huy ??ng, v?n h?nh v? gi?i ng?n nh? 
th? n?o - v? th?c s? c?ng kh?ng mu?n ?i s?u v?o :).
Sau khi c? b?n draft ??u ti?n, q?i c? quan g?i t?i c?ng ??ng PMNM v? c?c chuy?n 
gia kh?c ?? xin th?m ? ki?n xem li?u n?n s? d?ng ngu?n l?c, c?c k?t qu? ?? ??t 
???c nh? th? n?o cho h?p l? ..vv.vv... ?? ho?n thi?n b?n k? ho?ch tr?nh ph? 
duy?t, chu?n b? cho vi?c start th?c s?.
C?ch n?y nghe c? v? d?i d?ng, tuy nhi?n l?m t?t, theo t?i, ho?n to?n c? th? c? 
1 b?n k? ho?ch ?? t?t trong kho?ng tr?n d??i 1 th?ng, ?? ?em ?i ph? duy?t. V? 
sau ?? theo b?n k? ho?ch ???c ph? duy?t, nh?n v? qu?n l? s? d?ng ngu?n kinh 
ph?, t?p h?p resources theo d? t?nh k? ho?ch v? b?t ??u c?ng vi?c theo ??ng 
h??ng.

??i ?i?u th?m th?t, c?ng ch?a h?n l? ??y ??, ch? l? thi?n ? c?a c? nh?n. Tuy 
nhi?n, hy v?ng c? th? ???c anh ch? tham kh?o ?? c? ???c c?ch th?c x?y d?ng k? 
ho?ch t?t nh?t thay v? ??t c?u h?i d?ng V?y tr??c h?t xin ? ki?n c?c anh, ngo?i
ph?n d?ch thu?t ...
nh?n l?c th? n?o (ng??i-ng?y / ng??i-th?ng, kinh ph? d? ki?n ?) ? nh? b?n 
d??i, r?t kh? nh?n ???c c?u tr? l?i ?? t?t t? m?t ng??i c? th? (v? nh? ch? 
bi?t, vi?c n?y ?ang ???c nh? n??c giao cho m?t c? quan kh? l?n nh? b?n ch? - 
ch? kh?ng ph?i l? 1 c? nh?n n?o ?? - l?n k? ho?ch ph? duy?t).

M?t l?n n?a c?m ?n ch? v? hy v?ng c?ng ??ng c?ng HanoiLUG (c? th? ? ??y l? OOo 
team) c? ???c c? h?i h?p t?c v?i ch?nh ph? (m? c? th? ??i di?n ?ang ???c nh?c 
??n ? ??y l? q?i c? quan) ?? g?p ph?n nh? b? th?c ??y vi?c s?n xu?t, cung ?ng 
d?ch v? v? s? d?ng PMNM t?i Vi?t Nam.

 Tr?n tr?ng,
Tuan



- Original Message 
From: Nguyen Thuy Nhi nh...@most.gov.vn
To: Truong Anh Tuan dtanh at yahoo.com; Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at 
lists.hanoilug.org; Nguyen Dinh Trung nguyendinhtrung141 at gmail.com
Cc: Nguyen Trung Quynh quynhnt at most.gov.vn
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 1:52:29 PM
Subject: RE: [HanoiLUG] V? vi?c Vi?t ho? OpenOffice.org 3.0


C?m ?n anh Tu?n. Nh?ng ?i?u m?n ??m c?a anh ch?nh l? ?i?u ch?ng t?i ?ang m?y 
m? c?n nh?c x?y d?ng ?? l?m sao h?ng m?c ???c ph? duy?t. Vi?c n?y, ch?c anh 
hi?u, r?t kh?ng ??n gi?n.
 
V?y tr??c h?t xin ? ki?n c?c anh, ngo?i ph?n d?ch thu?t (c? th? nh?ng kh?i 
l??ng c?ng vi?c ?? l?m v? c?n ph?i l?m ti?p ?),  ch?ng ta n?n th?m hay ?i?u 
ch?nh nh?ng t?nh n?ng g? cho ph? h?p nhu c?u v? v?n h?a Vi?t ? ?? l?m ???c 
nh?ng t?nh n?ng ?? c?n nh?n l?c th? n?o (ng??i-ng?y / ng??i-th?ng, kinh ph? d? 
ki?n ?) ?
 
Xin c?m ?n.
 
NHI


 From: Truong Anh Tuan [mailto:dtanh at yahoo.com]
Sent: Fri 13/06/2008 11:25 AM
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group; Nguyen Dinh Trung; Nguyen Thuy Nhi
Cc: Nguyen Trung Quynh
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] V? vi?c Vi?t ho? OpenOffice.org 3.0


Ch?o ch? Nhi,

Xin ph?p ???c m?n ??m v?i t? c?ch l? m?t th?nh vi?n HanoiLUG v? c?ng ??ng m? 
m? n?i chung.

T?i kh?ng mu?n ph?i ?ao to, b?a l?n g? ? ??y. C? th? trong thread ?ang b?n 
c?ch th?c h?p l? nh?t ?? Localizing OOo, theo t?i (v? ch?c h?n l? c?ng c?a h?u 
h?t m?i ng??i trong c?ng ??ng PMNM Vi?t Nam), ch?nh ph? v? c? th? l? c? quan 
ch?, ??n v? ?ang ch?u tr?ch nhi?m ch?nh trong vi?c n?y, n?n c?n nh?c thay v? b? 
ngu?n l?c l?m t? ??u (r?t t?n k?m v? c?n kh?ng ?t kh? kh?n th?ch th?c), h?y 
chuy?n m?t ph?n funds ?? cho c?ng ??ng (d? nhi?n l? ph?i r?t c? t? ch?c, ?? ??m 
b?o

[HanoiLUG] FIREFOX 3 start your download at 12:00 am tonight

2008-06-17 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
I will certainly join into this exciting event :)

 Kind regards,
Tuan



- Original Message 
From: David Tremblay da...@ngowiki.net
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org; discuss discuss 
at saigonlug.org; VNOSS mailing list vnoss at googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 11:19:06 AM
Subject: [HanoiLUG] FIREFOX 3 start your download at 12:00 am tonight

Sorry I was too  fast

Firefox 3 with hit the shelves in vietnam at 24h00 tonight

good to know anyway



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[HanoiLUG] Internet/Firefox in North Korea?

2008-06-19 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
HI Hung et all,

I think Internet, especially in high speed, is not available or at least not 
available for almost people there.

By the way, Vietnam symbol colour was finally changed to orange (over 50K 
downloads). It's good for us since there is only stronger one, the red, ahead 
:).
US is the winner with over 3.2 million downloads and then German and Japan. You 
see, it is almost also the technology map in the world.

Hope Vietnamese FOSS community will be grown up more and more.

 Kind regards,
Tuan



- Original Message 
From: Hung Nguyen Vu vuhung16plus+sh...@gmail.com
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 12:31:52 PM
Subject: [HanoiLUG] Internet/Firefox in North Korea?

I notice that FF 3 downloads from North Korea is ZERO!

What is happeing?
Is that noone in North Korea is using FF 3 or what?

http://www.spreadfirefox.com/en-US/worldrecord/

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[HanoiLUG] Problem with some web pages on Linux

2008-07-05 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Hi Jean, Hung, et all,

It seems my wireless router broken :). Now I even can not access some those web 
pages when plugging my laptop into the RJ45 port on the router.
I don't know why but it seems getting broken something first and then some 
others.

I sent it to the supplier for warranty.

Thanks for all.

 Kind regards,
Tuan



- Original Message 
From: Jean Christophe Andr? jean-christophe.an...@auf.org
To: dtanh at yahoo.com; Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Saturday, July 5, 2008 7:29:21 PM
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] Problem with some web pages on Linux

Truong Anh Tuan a ?crit :
 I tried Firefox 3, Firefox 2 (running on wine) and Opera. All the same
 problem.
 My problem occurs with both AJAX and Classic UI of Yahoo Mail! (in
 Classic UI, I even can not open the reply window).
 Note that this problem occurs only when I use wireless connection on
 Linux.
 Have you got any better advice?
It seems to be at a lower level, maybe the network one.
Try to reduce the MTU on your wireless interface.
Something like this: sudo ifconfig wlan0 mtu 500
If it works like this, then try to increase the value up to 1400.
And don't forget to tell us about success/failure with this. ;-)

-- 
Jean Christophe  ANDR?   ? ? ?   Responsable technique r?gional
Bureau Asie-Pacifique (BAP)? ? ?  http://www.asie-pacifique.auf.org/
Agence universitaire de la Francophonie (AuF)  ? ? ?  http://www.auf.org/
Adresse postale : AUF, 21 L? Th?nh T?ng, T.T. Ho?n Ki?m, H? N?i, Vi?t Nam
T?l. : +84 4 9331108  ?  Fax : +84 4 8247383  ?  Cellul. : +84 91 3248747
? Note personnelle: merci d'?viter de m'envoyer des fichiers PowerPoint ?
? ou Word, cf http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.fr.html ?
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[HanoiLUG] List of declared participants to the Dinner party 11/07, 19h

2008-07-10 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
L?n n?y ??ng ?? tuy?t qu?!
Th? m?i t?m g?i l? HanoiLUG ch?!!! :)

B?c David ? l?i Vi?t Nam v?i ch?ng t?i ?i th?i :)

 Kind regards,
Tuan



- Original Message 
From: Vu Do Quynh vu.do.qu...@auf.org
To: binh at netnam.vn
Cc: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 9:10:25 AM
Subject: [HanoiLUG] List of declared participants to the Dinner party 11/07, 19h

Ch?o anh B?nh,

K?m theo ??y l? danh s?ch nh?ng ng??i ?? khai s? ??n tham gia
Dinner-Party t?i nay, 19g t?i Qu?n 1946 (3 ng? Y?n Th?nh, Ph? C?a B?c).
T?ng c?ng l? 16 ng??i :


1V? ?? Qu?nh
2David Tremblay
3Nguy?n H?ng Quang
4V? Th? B?nh
5L? Qu?c Th?i
6Tr??ng Anh Tu?n
7Jean-Christophe Andr?
8Tr?n Tu?n S?n
9Ho?ng Qu?c Huy
10Nguy?n Ch??ng Tr?nh
11Nguy?n Ng?c L?i
12Nguy?n ??nh trung
13Nguy?n V?n Th?nh
14St?phane Masse
15Paul griffiths
16Chairuou


B?n hanoilug, ai ch?a c? khai t?n, n?n g?i email tr?c ti?p ??n anh B?nh
?? lo vi?c gi?nh ch? t?i qu?n t?i nay.

Ch?c m?nh kh?e v? h?n g?p l?i t?i nay.
-- 
M. VU DO Quynh
AUF (T? ch?c h?p t?c ?H Ph?p ng?)
Campus num?rique francophone (CNF) de Hanoi
Nh? D, ng? 42 T? Quang B?u
T?l.: (84-4) 868.48.85 ; Fax: (84-4) 869.45.09
http://www.vn.refer.org/vietnam/

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[HanoiLUG] Problem with some web pages on Linux

2008-06-30 Hội thoại Truong Anh Tuan
Hi all,

I had a strange problem when surfing some specific web pages on a newly 
installed Fedora 9 box. One most used page is Yahoo mail, I can get login, read 
messages... but I can not send message.

It's OK when using wired connection both on Windows and Linux. It's also OK 
when using wireless connection on Windows (dual boot on that machine).
But it doesn't work when trying to connect with wireless connection on Linux.

Almost other pages are OK.

It seems something wrong with HTTP POST or SOAP. I don't know.

Anyone got the same problem? Can you help me!

P.S. I have to change to a wired connection to send this message :)

 Thanks,
Tuan
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[HanoiLUG] Anyone attend this event?

2008-10-18 Hội thoại Truong Anh. Tuan


My friends, 

Anyone attend this event: IOSN-InWEnt Training of Trainers on the FOSS Toolkit 
for SMEs? 
http://www.iosn.net/asean-3/call_for_applications/call-for-institutional-participation-iosn-inwent-training-of-trainers-on-the-foss-toolkit-for-smes
 

If any of you attend it, please tell me back and we can arrange together for a 
better trip. 

Kind regards, 
Tuan 
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[HanoiLUG] Fwd: Free Codeweavers products for 24 hours.

2008-10-28 Hội thoại Truong Anh. Tuan
It's great to hear that although I have been still happy with Wine.
I will try to get a copy for my own today (it's just free TODAY) and get a real 
experience to see how CodeWeaver comparative with Wine (I have heard that it is 
better with wider range of supported applications).

Hung, thank you very much for your on time announcement :)

Kind regards,
Tuan

- Original Message -
From: Nguyen Vu Hung vuhung16p...@gmail.com
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 10:56:55 AM GMT +07:00 Bangkok, Hanoi, Jakarta
Subject: [HanoiLUG] Fwd: Free Codeweavers products for 24 hours.

FYI, It is free NOW!

-- Forwarded message --
On Tuesday, Oct. 28, 2008, any one visiting the CodeWeavers' Web site
(www.codeweavers.com http://www.codeweavers.com/) will be given a deal
code that will entitle them to one free copy of CodeWeavers'
award-winning CrossOver software. Each copy comes complete with support.

http://www.codeweavers.com/about/general/press/20081027/

-- 
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Nguyen Hung Vu ( Nguy?n V? H?ng )
vuhung16plus{remo...@gmail.dot.com , YIM: vuhung16 , Skype: vuhung16dg
A brief profile: http://www.hn.is.uec.ac.jp/~vuhung/Nguyen.Vu.Hung.html
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[HanoiLUG] Fwd: [ict-vn] Fwd: Xin y kien cho Du thao QDTTg

2008-11-11 Hội thoại Truong Anh. Tuan
Nghe B?nh vi?t t??ng... l?m th? :)

H?n g?p l?i trong FOSS-Bridge nh?!

Kind regards,
Tuan

- Original Message -
From: Vu The Binh b...@netnam.vn
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 5:11:13 PM GMT +07:00 Bangkok, Hanoi, Jakarta
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] Fwd: [ict-vn] Fwd: Xin y kien cho Du thao QDTTg

Hi b?c Ngh?a,

G?p ? cho B? B?n T? th? xa qu? ... nh?ng em li?c qua th? th?y

C?c b?c v?n d?ng OSS m? kh?ng th?y ?? ??ng g? ??n FOSS hay FLOSS ...

C? l? ch? quan t?m ??n m? ...

C? l? ch? quan t?m ??n mi?n ph? ...

M? kh?ng quan t?m ??n FREEDOM nh? ...

C?ng c? th? c?i ?? kh?ng li?n quan ??n v?n b?n ch?nh th?c nh? n??c ...

C?ng c? th? c?i ?? d?ch ra th? d?i qu?, ??c m?o c? m?m ...

C? l? ??n gi? 112 cao qu? ...

Nh?ng c? l? c?c c?ng ty c?ng n?n quan t?m, v? c?c quy?t ??nh ki?u n?y 
li?n quan nhi?u ??n th?u trong c?c d? ?n b?o b? c?a Nh? n??c.

B?nh.
--
P/S. B?c c? c?i th? ph?n h?i tr?n ICT-VN v? th?ng b?o FOSS-Bridge, b?c 
forward ri?ng cho em c?i. Em kh?ng nh?n ???c mail t? list n?y. Nghe n?i 
c? ??i ca n?o ph?n n?n ;-) C?m ?n b?c.

Nghia Le Trung wrote:
 Xin g?i c?c anh em trong HanoiLUG ?? ch?ng ta g?p ? cho B? 
 L? Trung Ngh?a
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: ** quang at cadprovn.com mailto:quang at cadprovn.com
 Date: 2008/11/11
 Subject: [ict-vn] Fwd: Xin y kien cho Du thao QDTTg
 To: ICT-VN ict-vn at coltech.vnu.vn mailto:ict-vn at coltech.vnu.vn
 
 
 Chao cac anh chi,
 Chac nhieu anh chi da nhan duoc tai lieu va cong van nay, nhung toi 
 khong thay
 ai dua len dien dan. Toi xin man phep gui no len. Moi xem qua thi rat 
 nhieu noi
 dung lien quan den cac thao luan cua chung ta.
 Kinh thu
 --
 Dr. Pham Hong Quang
 Chairman and Software Architect
 CadPro JSC.
 11 Chau Long str. Hanoi, Vietnam
 Tel: 84-4-8469786
 Fax: 84-4-8469098
 website: www.cadprovn.com http://www.cadprovn.com
 email: quang at cadprovn.com mailto:quang at cadprovn.com
 
 
 
 
 
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 mailto:vinasa01 at hn.vnn.vn -
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:09:51 +0700
From: vinasa01 vinasa01 at hn.vnn.vn mailto:vinasa01 at hn.vnn.vn
 Reply-To: vinasa01 vinasa01 at hn.vnn.vn mailto:vinasa01 at hn.vnn.vn
  Subject: Xin y kien cho Du thao QDTTg
  To: quang at cadprovn.com mailto:quang at cadprovn.com, Oanh Cadprovn 
 oanhbk at cadprovn.com mailto:oanhbk at cadprovn.com,
 hoaithu at cadprovn.com mailto:hoaithu at cadprovn.com
 
 K?nh g?i c?c anh ch? h?i vi?n VINASA,
 
 D??i ??y l? c?ng v?n c?a B? -V? CNTT g?i t?i VINASA s?ng
 nay v? vi?c:
 G?p ? cho D? th?o quy?t ??nh c?a Th? t??ng Ch?nh ph? Ban
 h?nh m?t s? ch?nh
 s?ch v? c? ch? qu?n l?, th?c hi?n mua s?m, s? d?ng ph?n
 m?m d?ng v?n nh?
 n??c.
 
 VINASA xin k?nh g?i c?c anh ch? th?ng tin chi ti?t k?m theo c?ng v?n
 n?y
 trong file ??nh k?m. R?t mong c?c anh ch? b?t ch?t th?i gian xem
 v? g?i ?
 ki?n ??ng g?p v? cho VINASA s?m (ch?m nh?t l? ng?y 13/11/2008)
 ?? VINASA k?p
 th?i t?ng h?p v? g?i b?o c?o cho B? .
 
 ? ki?n ??ng g?p xin vui l?ng g?i v? ??a ch? email ho?c s?
 fax d??i ??y.
 
 Xin tr?n tr?ng c?m ?n c?c anh ch? v? ch?c c?c anh ch? s?c
 kh?e, h?nh ph?c!
 
 B?i Th? Thu Trang (Ms.)
 VP VINASA
 Tel: 04 3 577 2336/38
 Fax: 04 3 577 2337
 Mobi: 0906 272 575
 Email: trangbtt at vinasa.org.vn mailto:trangbtt at vinasa.org.vn
 
 - End forwarded message -
 
 
 -
 # Ghi chu: ICT-VN at coltech.vnu.vn mailto:ICT-VN at coltech.vnu.vn la 
 mailing-list gom cac nha
 nghien cuu, giang day, trien khai va quan ly CNTT-TT tu cac Truong,
 Vien, Cong ty va Co quan - To chuc Chinh phu va phi Chinh phu;
 # Xin chi gui nhung trao doi huu ich chung cho cong dong ICT-VN;
 # Website cac ICT-Events 2008 tai VN: www.coltech.vnu.vn/ict-vn 
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[HanoiLUG] Fwd: [asiasource2-participants:374] Re: Introduction to Free Software: The Book!

2008-11-12 Hội thoại Truong Anh. Tuan
It's so interesting from my friend in AS2 community.
Thanks for Patrice for sharing this for us.

Kind regards,
Tuan

- Forwarded Message -
From: Patrice Riemens patr...@xs4all.nl
To: asiasource2-participants at googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 3:08:50 AM GMT +07:00 Bangkok, Hanoi, Jakarta
Subject: [asiasource2-participants:374] Re: Introduction to Free Software: The 
Book!



Hi All,


The SELF project (*) and the Open University of Catalonia have jointly
produced the book Introduction to Free Software, a really wonderful
compendium of all you want to know, and to share, about Free Software
(formerly 'F/OSS' or 'FLOSS') (**).

It's 200p + 80 p appendixes. Free to download at:

http://tinyurl.com/6f8xuo

You must then go to (down the page, 'attachments'):

Introduction_to_FS--SELF.pdf 2.09 MB
for the book, and to:

Introduction_to_FS--SELF_errata.pdf 38.18 KB
for the errors (a few)


A print version is also available, but even at costprice, pricey: Euro 11
+ postage (add the same amount...). So what you could do is to print it on
locale and distribute it around. The whole thing is of course copyleft!

But for you my friends on this list, ferry spessial prayce! ;-)

I can send a limited number of copies (@) free of charge thru the
University mail (it's a bit of a smuggling operation). But really, really,
they must go somewhere where there will be far more than one reader! Mail
me pvt! (and allow some time)

(@) 5 or so, not more...

-

(*) Now formally terminated, and is being continued thru the Free
Knowledge Institute (http://www.freeknowledge.eu/)

(**) After that book I decided to do away with the cumbersome, confusing,
and ill-defined 'Open Source'. For me it's now Free Software all the way.
Never mind people who still think it's about beer... ;-)


Cheers to all, patrizio  Dnooos!



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[HanoiLUG] FOSS Document for Ministry of Education and Training

2008-11-21 Hội thoại Truong Anh. Tuan
Ch?o c?c b?c v? c?c b?n, 

M?i ng??i n?i nhi?u v? vi?c h? tr? m?c ng??i d?ng (chuy?n sang d?ng OOo v? 
FOSS) qu?! 

Em share l?i c?i Gentle migration trong quy?n SMEGuide n?y ?? kh?i b? qu?n 
m?t ph??ng ph?p em cho l? r?t h?p l?: 
http://smeguide.conecta.it/index.php/5._Best_practices_for_FLOSS_adoption 
H?y ngh? ??n vi?c chuy?n ??i c?c d?ch v? n?n sang FOSS, chuy?n ??i Desktops v? 
End-user apps ch? l? b??c cu?i c?ng. 

Kind regards, 
Tuan 

- Original Message - 
From: Ngh?a L? Trung letrungnghia.f...@gmail.com 
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org 
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 9:49:54 AM GMT +07:00 Bangkok, Hanoi, Jakarta 
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] FOSS Document for Ministry of Education and Training 




2008/11/21 Nguyen Vu Hung  vuhung16plus at gmail.com  



2008/11/21 Ngh?a L? Trung  letrungnghia.foss at gmail.com : 
 
 
 2008/11/21 Nguyen Vu Hung  vuhung16plus at gmail.com  

 1. D?ng s?ch( ?t ng??i ??c l?m, users ai ch? l??i) 
 2. Tutorial d?ng slides( t?o b?ng impress). D? ??c h?n. 
 3. Tutorial d?ng video( c? th? cho 1 ng??i t?o slide, thuy?t tr?nh 
 b?ng ti?ng Vi?t) 
 4. Demo, Tut ? d?ng video 
 
 2, 3, 4 d? h?c, d? l?m. 
 
 Nh?ng th? n?y l? r?t OK, ch? ti?c l? ch?ng c?ng ??u ? d?ng ti?ng n??c ngo?i, 
 m? ?? l?m m?t ch??ng tr?nh b?t ch??c nh? v?y b?ng ti?ng Vi?t th? c?n m?t 
 c?ng v? l?u h?n nhi?u. Anh V? ?? Qu?nh c?ng v?i t?i ?? ch?ng ki?n s? ch?m 
 ch?p t?i m?c n?o khi th? d?y OOo v2.4 tr?n k?nh VTV2 c?a truy?n h?nh Vi?t 
 Nam. 
Ch? ti?c l? em kh?ng ? HN n?n kh?ng n?m b?t ???c th?ng tin. 
Gi? nh? em ? HN nh?? Ch?c s? l?m ???c m?t c?i g? ??. 


 
 D?ch th? em kh?ng c? th?i gian. ??y l? vi?c c?a qu?c gia n?n em ngh? 
 n?n c? kinh ph? ri?ng. 
 Kinh ph? n?y kh?ng th? tr?nh khi khi ??a m?t ph?n m?m m?i v?o s? d?ng. 
 # ? em n?i l? n?u b?c mu?n gi?m kinh ph? n?y nh? v?o c?ng ??ng l? kh?ng 
 n?n. 
 
 C? l? v?y. T?i s? kh?ng ??t v?n ?? n?y ra n?a, tr? phi t?i c? th? t? l?m. 
Em xin n?i l?i 1 l?n( ?? n?i kh? nhi?u l?n): Ch? tr??ng c?a B? l? d?ng OOo 
nh? m?t free-rider. ?i?u n?y l? kh?ng n?n v? t? t?ch m?nh ra kh?i c?ng ??ng. 
C?ch l?m t?t h?n l? tham gia v?o d? ?n OOo, OOo vi. 
C? th? v? b?n ch?a quen v?i n?n h?nh ch?nh v? th?i quan li?u ? VN, ch? theo 
nh?ng g? t?i c? th? hi?u th?i vi?c tham gia d? ?n OOo, OOo vi l? n?m tr?n s?n 
c?a B? KHCN, ch?c ch?n kh?ng ph?i n?m ? b?t k? b? n?o kh?c. Nh?ng ?? quy?t ???c 
vi?c tham gia n?y t? m?t b? trong ch?nh ph? VN th? v? v?n kh? kh?n, m?c d? ai 
c?ng hi?u l? ph?i theo. Ch?nh v? th?, m? b?n th?n t?i ?? c?ng anh Trung Qu?nh 
?? k?t n?i ?? VN tham gia v?o Asianux t? th?ng 02/2007 nh?n Di?n ??n Ngu?n m? 
Ch?u ? l?n th? 7 ???c t? ch?c t?i Bali, Indonesia v? sau ?? c?ng ty 
VietSoftware ?? thay m?t VN ra nh?p li?n minh n?y cho t?i nay. V?i c?ng ty th? 
t? ch? ??ng ? t?i tri?n khai ch?c kh?ng th? l?u h?n 1 th?ng ???c. 


X?y d?ng doc/tut c?ng l? m?t ph?n c?a d? ?n OOo. 
B? ?? c? OOo free( mi?n ph? + t? do), v?y c?ng ph?i tr? l?i cho OOo 
proj. m?t c?i g? ?? ch?? 
L?i m?t l?n n?a, ??y l? vi?c c?a B? KHCN, ??n gi?n v? quy?t ??nh 235/QD-TTg 
ng?y 02/03/2004 v? ?ng d?ng v? ph?t tri?n PMNM t?i VN th? t??ng giao cho B? 
KHCN l?m ch? tr? ch? kh?ng ph?i b?t k? b? n?o kh?c. 
nghialt 



C? hai b?n c?ng c? l?i m?. 


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[HanoiLUG] Wireless card rtl8187 driver

2008-11-23 Hội thoại Truong Anh. Tuan
B?n c?n th?m th?ng tin g? ?? c? th? cho t?i m?t l?i khuy?n c? ?ch h?n?

Card wireless Realtek rtl8187b built-in, ch?y tr?n Fedora 9.
Hi?n gi? h? th?ng kh?ng nh?n th?y card; kh?ng c? message c? th? n?o.

Kind regards,
Tuan

- Original Message -
From: Phuong Vo clari...@gmail.com
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 11:01:03 PM GMT +07:00 Bangkok, Hanoi, Jakarta
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] Wireless card rtl8187 driver

2008/11/22 Truong Anh. Tuan tuanta at iwayvietnam.com:
 Hi J.C. et all,

 This way is not helpful for me.
 I even also tried to use its driver for WinXP from manufacturer.

 Anyone also has good ideas?
 Note that it's a built-in card.

 Kind regards,
 Tuan

It is really hard to find a solution without sufficient information,
for example, you can say what was the message when it say it doesn't
work etc... Or I think someone here could use ssh to fix your problem.

Remember that a lot of people on the internet got it working, so there
should be no reason for yours not to. I often got into trouble like
you too, just don't give up and everything will be alright.

Oh, and if anyone here have something to say about I have given up
with firefox then I have to said that it is impossible to fix the
problem, because it was caused by nvidia driver :)
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[HanoiLUG] Fwd: [saigonLug] Gnome.Asia Summit

2009-05-15 Hội thoại Truong Anh. Tuan

What do you think if HanoiLUG can organize this summit?

- Forwarded Message -
From: Frederic Muller f...@beijinglug.org
To: discuss at saigonlug.org
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 7:30:26 PM GMT +07:00 Bangkok, Hanoi, Jakarta
Subject: [saigonLug] Gnome.Asia Summit

Hi guys!

My name is Fred and I am ex-President of Beijing LUG and current Vice
President. I am also on the board of Gnome.Asia summit and involved in a
few other Open Source projects.

Last year we organized Gnome.Asia summit in Beijing, China and we're
looking for a team of motivated and passionate individuals to take
leadership this year and organize it in a different Asian country/city.
I was with mario Behling (LXDE) yesterday and he said the Saigon LUG
would be very interested in doing so.

We're actually sendint out a call for host on various Gnome mailing, to
which I do not know whether you are subscribed. Here is what it says:

Call for invitations to be the host of GNOME.Asia Summit 2009

We are soliciting proposals for hosting GNOME.Asia 2009. The
GNOME.Asia Summit is planned to be an annual GNOME event hosted in
Asia. We started the GNOME.Asia Summit in 2008 and we want to continue
this tradition and spread GNOME throughout the Asian region.

The GNOME.Asia Summit will focus primarily on the GNOME desktop
including both applications and the development platform in addition
to larger GNOME-related community in Asia. The Summit brings together
the GNOME community in Asia to provide a forum for users, developers,
foundation leaders, governments and businesses to discuss a varied
range of topics relating to GNOME and the GNOME community in Asia.
Learn more about GNOME.Asia Summit from our website at
http://www.gnome.asia/en/



The Summit has an active committee to assist the local coordinators,
but there is a definitive need for individuals actively involved and
committed to the planning and execution of the Summit. There are
challenges to work through but the process can be a very rewarding and
a lot of fun.
GNOME.Asia is much like a tiny seed we want to grow into a tree in
Asia. We are looking for local organizers in any Asian country with
the desire to take on and succeed in the challenges of organizing an
excellent GNOME event.

The following two links are must read items for GUADEC, the European
model for the Summit. It has also worked well for GNOME.Asia Summit
organizers :



How to:
http://live.gnome.org/GuadecPlanningHowTo?highlight=(guadec)|(howto)
http://live.gnome.org/GuadecPlanningHowTo?highlight=%28guadec%29%7C%28howto%29
Check list: http://live.gnome.org/GuadecPlanningHowTo/CheckList

You will also find the template of GNOME.Asia Summit 2008 Proposal is
very helpful: Download the proposal template from:

http://www.gnome.asia/static/upload/document/GNOME_Asia_Summit_proposal.pdf


Dear GNOME friends

For those of you who would like to host the next GNOME.Asia Summit in
2009 you are hereby invited to write a formal invitation to the
GNOME.Asia Committee list (asia-summit-list at gnome.org
mailto:asia-summit-list at gnome.org) regarding your
ideas for this years signature Asian GNOME event! The deadline for
submitting the proposal is 15th, June, 2009.

If you have any questions about the process or ideas you'd like to
discuss before submitting a proposal, you can reach us at
asia-summit-list at gnome.org mailto:asia-summit-list at gnome.org.

Thanks,
GNOME.Asia Summit Committee


So if you are interested please do contact us.

Thanks a lot.

Fred
Beijing LUG

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Re: [HanoiLUG] Config Bind Server

2009-06-24 Hội thoại Truong Anh. Tuan
Chào Sơn,

- Lê Anh Sơn anh...@qdnd.vn wrote:

 Em có một địa chỉ IP tĩnh nhưng nó lại trỏ vào cái model của em do đó
 em phải sử dụng cái Port Forward để bên ngoài sử dụng được dịch vụ của
 server của em
Việc này thì không liên quan gì đến Bind DNS server.

 Tuy nhiên, với Server thì cần phải cài cái Bind để cho nó nhận ra tên
 miền.
Anh chưa hiểu ý em lắm. Em có thể nói rõ hơn được không?

Kind regards, 
Tuan 
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Re: [HanoiLUG] Repo cua fedora 11 tren virror bi loi !

2009-06-26 Hội thoại Truong Anh. Tuan

- mad scientist124 mad.scientist...@gmail.com wrote:

 Chao moi nguoi!
 Em moi cai fedora 11. Em chuyen qua dung virror nhung yum thong bao la
 ko co repodata. Trong thu muc:
 http://virror.hanoilug.org/fedora/releases/11/Everything/x86_64/os/repodata/
 ko thay gi.
 Cac anh co the khac phuc loi nay duoc ko ah?

Hiện tốc độ mạng chậm, Virror cho Fedora 11 vẫn đang synchronize chưa xong (mới 
tạm xong phần i386).

Khi nào xong, nhóm quản trị Fedora/CentOS virror sẽ gửi thông báo cho mọi người 
(hiện chưa có thông báo mà bạn đã dùng rồi :)

Kind regards,
Tuan
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Re: [HanoiLUG] problems joining Yahoo Messenger's network

2009-06-26 Hội thoại Truong Anh. Tuan

- Minh Le cume...@gmail.com wrote:

 2009/6/26 Lars Adermalm  lars.h...@gmail.com 
 
 And it seems to me that the Pidgin is not updated over the Ubuntu
 repository but only with the next Ubuntu release 9.10 or did I get
 something wrong there
 
 The problem is explained here: http://www.pidgin.im/download/ubuntu/ .
 Try to setup PPA and Pidgin will be updated :-)
 

Until now, the new update of Pidgin 2.5.7 has been available in Fedora 12 
repository (rawhide) only.
You can enable rawhide repository and do update using YUM normally.

You can also download and update it manually from (my preferable way):
ftp://195.220.108.108/linux/fedora/updates/10/x86_64/libpurple-2.5.7-1.fc10.i386.rpm
ftp://195.220.108.108/linux/fedora/updates/10/i386/pidgin-2.5.7-1.fc10.i386.rpm

Kind regards, 
Tuan 
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Re: [HanoiLUG] problems joining Yahoo Messenger's network

2009-06-26 Hội thoại Truong Anh. Tuan

- Jean Christophe André jean-christophe.an...@auf.org wrote:

 Truong Anh. Tuan a écrit :
  Until now, the new update of Pidgin 2.5.7 has been available in
 Fedora 12 repository (rawhide) only. You can enable rawhide repository
 and do update using YUM normally.
 
 IIRC, rawhide is the Fedora equivalent for Debian unstable.
 
 So it would mean putting you in a risky situation, at least for the
 stability of your system...
 
 If I'm correct on this one and if, like me, you want your main desktop
 system to keep being stable because it's what you use for your
 everyday
 work and you don't have time to play around everyday (or near so) to
 correct the effect of a bleeding edge update, then you'll probably
 don't
 want to use the rawhide repository.
Sorry everyone.
I assumed that you know the risky of rawhide (under development) packages :)

 
 If the only thing you want to risk now is the Pidgin update, then you
 may prefer to add the Pidgin dedicated repository instead, see:
   http://www.pidgin.im/download/fedora_core/
This contains packages for Fedora until core 7 (not 8 and higher) so you should 
use my preferable way, download and install manually (using rpm -Uvh...) from:
ftp://195.220.108.108/linux/fedora/updates/10/x86_64/libpurple-2.5.7-1.fc10.i386.rpm
ftp://195.220.108.108/linux/fedora/updates/10/i386/pidgin-2.5.7-1.fc10.i386.rpm

Kind regards,
Tuan
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Re: [HanoiLUG] problems joining Yahoo Messenger's network

2009-06-26 Hội thoại Truong Anh. Tuan

- Truong Anh. Tuan tua...@iwayvietnam.com wrote:
 I assumed that you know the risky of rawhide (under development)
 packages :)
If you prefer this way, just enable rawhide once by using this option in yum 
update command: --enablerepo=rawhide

Kind regards,
Tuan
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Re: [HanoiLUG] problems joining Yahoo Messenger's network (Thai)

2009-06-27 Hội thoại Truong Anh. Tuan

- Jean Christophe André jean-christophe.an...@auf.org wrote:

 Ta Quang Thai a écrit :
  Bellow link for the one who use Asianux Desktop 3 to fix Pidgin
 problem.
  http://www.asianuxvietnam.vn//Tin-hoat-dong%20action=viewNewsid=60
 
 http://www.asianuxvietnam.vn//Tin-hoat-dong%20action=viewNewsid=60
  It's can be use for who to do manual fix in Fedora version 8, 9, 10
  and 11.
 Thanks for Asianux's users!
 
 But, IMHO, you should exchange the order between “Cách 1” and “Cách
 2”,
 since the /etc/hosts method will not last long — it's only a matter
 of
 time before every Yahoo servers have been upgraded — and the Pidgin
 update is definitively what everybody should do now...
Exactly.
We should upgrade to Pidgin latest verion 2.5.7.

Kind regards, 
Tuan 
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[HanoiLUG] Fedora 11 on Virror

2009-07-06 Hội thoại Truong Anh. Tuan
My friends, 

Fedora 11 has been mirrored to our Virror server. 
The .repo files, as you see for Fedora 10, are not changed. 

@J.C. please update the page http://virror.hanoilug.org/#fedora 

Kind regards, 

TUAN, Truong Anh 
CEO, iWay, 
20A, lane 98, Thai Ha street, Hanoi, Vietnam 
Phone: 844-537-8684 Handphone: 8490-323-7001 
Fax: 844-537-8683 
Email: tua...@iwayvietnam.com 
Email2: tat...@gmail.com 
Website: http://www.iwayvietnam.com/ 
Weblog: http://blog.iwayvietnam.com/tuanta/ 
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Re: [HanoiLUG] Fedora 11 - Bộ gõ tiếng Vi ệt

2009-07-06 Hội thoại Truong Anh. Tuan

- trung gik trung...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Chào các bác,
 CHo em hỏi đã có bộ gõ tiếng Việt nào ổn chưa. Vì unikey dùng cho FC10
 trên thằng này ko cài được. Còn đồng chí ibus thì vẫn còn lỗi, không
 biết đã bác nào fix chưa. Hôm trước em có theo dõi một thread trên
 vnoss, nhưng thấy ko được active lắm...

Trung thử scim-unikey đi: http://code.google.com/p/scim-unikey/
Anh dùng thấy cũng ổn.

Kind regards,
Tuan
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Re: [HanoiLUG] Fedora 11 on Virror

2009-07-07 Hội thoại Truong Anh. Tuan

- Jean Christophe André jean-christophe.an...@auf.org wrote:

 Truong Anh. Tuan a écrit :
  Fedora 11 has been mirrored to our Virror server. 
  The .repo files, as you see for Fedora 10, are not changed. 
 
  @J.C. please update the page http://virror.hanoilug.org/#fedora

 I have added version 11 to the list.
Thanks!

 Do you confirm version 10 is still there?
Of course, it's still there.
I follow a FedoraProject rule, just maintaining two last versions.

Kind regards, 
Tuan 
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Re: [HanoiLUG] [Fwd: Tin buon - me dong chi Tuan iWay mat]

2009-07-18 Hội thoại Truong Anh. Tuan
Chào các anh, các chị, các bạn,

Tôi xin thay mặt gia đình gửi lời cảm ơn sâu sắc đến các anh các chị và các bạn 
đã động viên, chia buồn, đến viếng và tiễn đưa mẹ tôi về nơi an nghỉ cuối cùng.
Tang gia bối rối, có gì sơ suất, xin được lượng thứ.

Kind regards, 
Tuan 

- Original Message -
From: Nguyen Hong Quang (home) nguyen.hong.qu...@auf.org
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug@lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 3:44:35 PM GMT +07:00 Bangkok, Hanoi, Jakarta
Subject: [HanoiLUG] [Fwd: Tin buon - me dong chi Tuan iWay mat]

Chào các bạn HanoiLUG,

Chúng tôi vừa được tin mẹ của bạn Trương Anh Tuấn (Cty iWay), một thành
viên rất tích cực của HanoiLUG chúng ta, vừa qua đời. Vậy xin kính báo
để các bạn HanoiLUG có quen biết và/hoặc đã từng trao đổi trên diễn đàn
với bạn Tuấn có thể gửi thư chia buồn với bạn Tuấn qua email
tua...@iwayvietnam.com.
Các bạn ở Hà Nội có thể thu xếp để đến viếng mẹ bạn Tuấn váo sáng thứ
năm 16/7 tới, xin liên lạc với bạn Tạ Quang Thái (tha...@asianux.org.vn
- thư gửi kèm) để hẹn giờ cùng vào. Hôm đó, tôi đang đi công tác vắng
nên sẽ không đến được. Bạn Thái sẽ là coordinator cho việc này.

Kính báo,
Quang

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Re: [HanoiLUG] Microsoft đóng góp cho nhân L inux - Ngạc nhiên chưa?

2009-07-23 Hội thoại Truong Anh. Tuan
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/23/microsoft_hyperv_gpl_violation/ 


Kind regards, 
Tuan 

- Original Message - 
From: Nghĩa Lê Trung letrungnghia.f...@gmail.com 
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug@lists.hanoilug.org 
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:06:16 AM GMT +07:00 Bangkok, Hanoi, Jakarta 
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] Microsoft đóng góp cho nhân Linux - Ngạc nhiên chưa? 

Hi All, 
Tôi nghĩ gã khổng lồ hiện vẫn đang tham gia FLOSS ở những nơi mà gã này không 
phải hoặc không bị buộc phải lấy súng bắn vào chân mình. Dù sao thì vẫn cảm ơn 
MS vì cả làng mà có thêm các Driver để dùng cho nhân Linux thì tốt quá. Tình 
trạng của Linux Driver Project trong tháng 06/2009 có thể xem ở đây , hoặc bản 
dịch ở đây . 
nghialt 


2009/7/21 Nguyen Hong Quang  nguyen.hong.qu...@auf.org  


Gã khổng lồ dường như bắt đầu có động thái thực sự tham gia FLOSS. 
Mời cả nhà xem link dưới đây mà chúng tôi vừa nhận được từ một đồng nghiệp 
trong đội Techs của AUF. 

http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/microsoft-linux-hyper-v-drivers.html 

Đề nghị anh Lê Trung Nghĩa đưa ngay lên blog của anh nhá. 

Quang 

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Re: [HanoiLUG] Gặp lại Jon maddog Hall

2009-08-25 Hội thoại Truong Anh. Tuan
+1.

Kind regards,
Tuan

- Original Message -
From: Vu The Binh b...@netnam.vn
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug@lists.hanoilug.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 3:14:36 PM GMT +07:00 Bangkok, Hanoi, Jakarta
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] Gặp lại Jon maddog Hall

Hi Hanoi LUGers ;-)

I've communicated with Maddog and probably he could have some free time 
on Sunday evening. He can drink bia hoi with Hanoi LUG members 
somewhere in Hanoi for chatting.

Do you think that would be good for Hanoi LUG? Any idea?

Cheers, Binh.

Le Quoc Thai wrote:
 Thân gửi các thành viên HanoiLUG,
 
 Chiều Thứ Hai tuần sau, Jon maddog Hall 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Hall_%28programmer%29 sẽ có một buổi 
 nói chuyện với sinh viên tại ĐHBK Hà Nội 
 http://www.fit.hut.vn/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=251Itemid=59.
  
 Trước đó, JmH cũng sẽ có một bài thuyết trình tại WITFOR 2009 
 http://www.witfor.org/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=37Itemid=198
  
 cho các nhà hoạch định chính sách, và một buổi seminar 
 http://itb.vn/uni/home/index.php?lang=vndisp_id=67block_id=10news_index=126
  
 đặt trọng tâm vào kinh doanh bền vững.
 
 Tôi đã từng được tiếp xúc với Jon 3 lần năm 2005: tại COSGov 
 http://cosgov.ow2.org, ĐHBK và bia hơi Hải Xồm. Bản thân tôi thấy rất 
 ấn tượng với những ý kiến sáng suốt của ông. Nếu tò mò, bạn vẫn có thể 
 tìm đọc lại một số câu giải đáp của Jon hồi đó tại đây 
 http://cosgov.ow2.org/xwiki/bin/download/Main/Press/online_interviewmaddog_vn.pdf.
 
 Thật sự, những điều Jon chia sẻ đã thôi thúc tôi tìm hiểu sâu hơn về 
 phần mềm tự do và mã nguồn mở. Chắc chắn tôi sẽ tham dự lần này, và 
 chiêm nghiệm lại thế giới quan của tôi về phần mềm đã được rộng mở đến 
 đâu so với lúc tôi chưa biết gì về mã nguồn mở.
 
 Chúc ngủ ngon,
 -- 
 Le Quoc Thai
 Software Engineer
 Dept. of Expert System  Softcomputing
 Institute of Information Technology (VAST)
 Tel.: (+84)-04-37.91.50.63
 Mobile: (+84)-095.330.7791 or (+84)-01694.69.69.04
 
 
 
 
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Re: [HanoiLUG] Final announcement for a bia hơi party with Maddog

2009-08-30 Hội thoại Truong Anh. Tuan
Great event :) 
Hope to see you all there this evening! 

Kind regards, 

TUAN, Truong Anh 
CEO, iWay, 
20A, lane 98, Thai Ha street, Hanoi, Vietnam 
Phone: 844-537-8684 Handphone: 8490-323-7001 
Fax: 844-537-8683 
Email: tua...@iwayvietnam.com 
Email2: tat...@gmail.com 
Website: http://www.iwayvietnam.com/ 
Weblog: http://blog.iwayvietnam.com/tuanta/ 

- Original Message - 
From: Le Quoc Thai lqt...@gmail.com 
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group hanoilug@lists.hanoilug.org 
Cc: mad...@li.org, Trung Hiếu Bùi trunghieubu...@gmail.com, Pham Tuan 
Long longpt...@gmail.com, Dung Tran Viet sdsbird...@gmail.com 
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 12:17:42 PM GMT +07:00 Bangkok, Hanoi, Jakarta 
Subject: [HanoiLUG] Final announcement for a bia hơi party with Maddog 

My dear friends, 

Tuan Long -Maddog's student- has contacted me to confirm that they will join us 
at 19:00. So we will stick to our plan announced previously: 

• Time (tentative) : 19:00 - 20:30 
• Venue : Hanoi Brewery's restaurant (123 Hoang Hoa Tham road - HABECO ) - 
the one HanoiLUG had gathered together at the farewell party with David 
Tremblay last year. 
• Participants : anyone interested in drinking bia hơi. 

See you then, 

-- 
Le Quoc Thai 
Software Engineer 
Dept. of Expert System  Softcomputing 
Institute of Information Technology (VAST) 
Tel.: (+84)-04-37.91.50.63 
Mobile: (+84)-095.330.7791 

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Re: [HanoiLUG] Etoys presentation during SFD'09

2009-09-22 Hội thoại Truong Anh. Tuan

- Vu Do Quynh vu.do.qu...@auf.org wrote:

 Sorry,
 
 I didn't realize enough quickly that the email was to be sent to
 hanoilug. It was meant as a private message to Serge Stinckwich (so
 the
 French writing).
No problem, I understood you :)

Kind regards,
Tuan
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Re: [HanoiLUG] Mời gặp mặt trao đổi ki ến thức hàng tuần

2009-09-24 Hội thoại Truong Anh. Tuan

- Cá Vàng clari...@gmail.com wrote:

 Xin chào tất cả mọi người trong hộp thư chung công cộng của
 HanoiLUG, nhóm người dùng Linux tại Hà Nội.
 
   Em đã đọc một số bài viết của nước ngoài về tinh thần tự do, nguồn
 mở là bắt đầu từ một văn hóa có tên 'hacker culture' bắt nguồn tại MIT
 từ những năm 1960. Từ đó, em thấy rằng đối với cộng đồng nguồn mở Việt
 Nam hiện nay thì việc chia sẻ kiến thức cho nhau rất quan trọng, đặc
 biệt là thế hệ trẻ mới như em. Chính vì thế em có ý định tổ chức một
 buổi gặp mặt hàng tuần với mục đích là chia sẻ kiến thức, giúp đỡ lẫn
 nhau về các vấn đề khoa học kĩ thuật nói chung, và phần mềm tự do
 nguồn mở nói riêng.
 
   Đúng theo tính chất 'tự do', 'nguồn mở', bất kì ai quan tâm cũng sẽ
 có thể tham gia buổi họp mặt này, có thể là chia sẻ về bất kì kiến
 thức gì hữu ích, thế nhưng vì một lí do nên buổi họp mặt mà em tổ chức
 sẽ chỉ chú trọng về phần mềm tự do nguồn mở, GNU/Linux (lí do gì xin
 xem thêm ở dưới).
 
   Buổi gặp mặt này sẽ được tổ chức vào sáng thứ bảy, ngày 29 tháng 9
 năm 2009, tại Trung tâm Kĩ thuật số (CNF) của Tổ chức đại học Pháp ngữ
 (AUF) nhà D ngõ 42 Tạ Quang Bửu. Hình thức chia sẻ thông tin sẽ thông
 qua thuyết trình, trao đổi và bàn luận. Mỗi người sẽ gửi trước về
 những kiến thức mà: (1) thấy hữu ích và mong muốn được chia sẻ với
 người khác, (2) mong muốn được giúp đỡ về một vấn đề nào đó và (3) cần
 bàn luận, góp ý thêm về một ý tưởng. Như em trong tuần này sẽ có những
 ý tưởng như sau:
 
   - [Chia sẻ] Cài đặt hệ điều hành gentoo và những ưu điểm
 của bản phân phối này, ảo hóa với kvm, có thể giúp đỡ một
 số vấn đề liên quan tới GNU/Linux
   - [Cần giúp đỡ] Giải quyết vấn đề gõ cách chữ của GNOME
 terminal đối với tiếng Việt liên quan tới locale
   - [Cần góp ý] Hoàn thiện bộ Dejavu Sans Mono cho đủ các kí
 tự có dấu của tiếng Việt, cách sử dụng FontForge, typeface
 design.
   - Ngoài ra em có thể giúp đỡ việc tải xuống và ghi các đĩa CD,
 DVD của GNU/Linux, chỉ cần nói trước là cần gì và mang theo đĩa
 trắng đến, em sẽ ghi cho.
 
   Trong tuần, mọi người sẽ gửi những thông tin như vậy và sẽ tạo thành
 một danh sách các vấn đề được bàn luận, danh sách này có thể được đưa
 lên các trang như HanoiLUG blog, những người quan tâm đến một chủ đề
 nào đó có thể đến và tham gia, và dĩ nhiên bất kì ai cũng có thể gửi
 những thông tin như vậy.
 
   Xin lưu ý một điểm là mặc dù ý tưởng này có thể áp dụng cho mọi chủ
 đề, mọi kiến thức, nhưng vì địa điểm diễn ra là CNF nên sẽ chỉ giới
 hạn trong phần mềm tự do nguồn mở và GNU/Linux ;-) Cũng vì vậy nên
 việc sử dụng các tài nguyên ra sao phải theo quy định của CNF, về việc
 này có lẽ bác Vũ Đỗ Quỳnh có thể cung cấp thông tin chi tiết hơn.
 
   Cuối cùng xin nhắc lại rằng cuộc gặp mặt này hoàn toàn tự do, không
 ràng buộc, chừng nào còn có hơn một người muốn đến và chia sẻ thì nó
 sẽ vẫn được diễn ra, cũng chính vì vậy nên em vẫn chưa và không muốn
 đặt tên cho cuộc gặp mặt này là gì. Rất mong mọi người ủng hộ và tham
 gia chia sẻ kiến thức cho nhau!
 
Xin nhiệt liệt hưởng ứng ý tưởng này của Cá Vàng.
Với anh, chỉ còn là vấn đề case-by-case: sắp xếp được thời gian cụ thể từng 
buổi như thế nào? mang đến diễn đàn chủ đề gì, chờ đợi chủ đề gì từ đó?...

Anyway, buổi sáng thứ 7 tuần này thì anh không tham gia được rồi.

Kind regards, 
Tuan
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Re: [HanoiLUG] Mời gặp mặt trao đổi ki ến thức hàng tuần

2009-09-24 Hội thoại Truong Anh. Tuan

- Vu Do Quynh vu.do.qu...@auf.org wrote:

 Cá Vàng a écrit :
 
Buổi gặp mặt này sẽ được tổ chức vào sáng thứ bảy, ngày 29 tháng 9
  năm 2009, tại Trung tâm Kĩ thuật số (CNF) của Tổ chức đại học Pháp
 ngữ
  (AUF) nhà D ngõ 42 Tạ Quang Bửu. Hình thức chia sẻ thông tin sẽ
 thông
 
 Có lẽ Phương muốn viết là sáng thứ bảy, ngày 27 tháng 09 năm 2009...
 là thứ bảy tuần này !
Nếu vậy chính xác phải là 26/9 :)

Kind regards, 
Tuan
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Re: [HanoiLUG] Mời gặp mặt trao đổi ki ến thức hàng tuần

2009-09-24 Hội thoại Truong Anh. Tuan

- Phan Trong Khanh phantrongkhan...@gmail.com wrote:

 +1 cho 14h30 Thứ 7 tới :D
-1 :) vì T đã có lịch khác cố định vào chiều thứ 7 rồi.

Nếu mọi người thấy 1 buổi tối nào đó trong tuần hợp lý (VD: khoảng 6h chiều thứ 
6 hàng tuần) thì vote phát :)

Kind regards, 
Tuan 
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Re: [HanoiLUG] Attend to Japan Linux Symposium

2009-10-27 Hội thoại Truong Anh. Tuan
Chào bạn NAHieu,

Tôi không muốn kéo chuyện này vào 1 cuộc tranh luận vì phần nhiều vấn đề là rất 
khó tranh cãi, tùy thuộc vào quan điểm riêng của mỗi người.
Tuy nhiên do tôi là người post bài viết này lên, nên cũng xin có một vài 
comments trả lời.

- NAHieu nah...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Truong Anh. Tuan
 tua...@iwayvietnam.com wrote:
  My friends,
 
  I have been back from Japan Linux Symposium and certainly enjoyed my
 trip much.
  These are some lines about my feelings at the event:
 http://blog.iwayvietnam.com/tuanta/2009/10/27/japan-linux-symposium-a-point-of-view/
 
 
 Bạn có câu khá lý thú:
 
 Tại sao cộng đồng sử dụng và tham gia phát triển phần mềm tự do nguồn
 mở, đặc biệt là phát triển, đóng góp cho Linux Kernel tại Việt Nam
 chưa có mức độ phát triển tương xứng với tiềm năng thực sự của chúng
 ta?!?!
 
 Tiềm năng thực sự của ta thể hiện ở đâu vậy???
Câu hỏi này của bạn rất Việt Nam :). Tôi cũng đã từng nghĩ như bạn vậy.
Tuy nhiên, giờ dù tôi đã không tự hỏi như thế này nữa, nhưng cũng thực sự chưa 
đủ khả năng để giải thích ngọn ngành cho bạn hiểu.
Xin dành lời giải thích cho những người Việt trẻ tuổi (ít nhất là trẻ hơn tôi 
15-20 tuổi :) trả lời bằng hành động cụ thể.

Nói chính xác là tốt nhất ta không nên tranh luận vấn đề này xem ai sai ai đúng 
mà hãy để tương lai trả lời (thực tế, hiện tại người VN đã đóng góp công sức, 
dù còn rất ít, cùng cộng đồng phát triển nhân Linux - như tôi sẽ chỉ ra thêm 
bên dưới).
Bản thân mỗi chúng ta (tôi giả định là thành viên HanoiLUG toàn những người ủng 
hộ FOSS) nên có những hành động thiết thực để thúc đẩy tương lai đó đến nhanh 
hơn.

 
 Đóng góp ít đơn giản là vì muốn contribute cho Linux kernel ngày càng
 khó, phải đầu tư công sức nghiên cứu rất nghiêm túc trong thời gian
 dài, vì những việc lặt vặt người ta làm sạch rồi.
Cái này chưa hẳn đúng.
Và cho dù nếu đã đúng, cũng không phải lý do ngăn cản người Việt mình đóng góp 
cho Linux Kernel và FOSS.

 
 Làm việc càng ở mức dưới về mặt kỹ thuật càng khó, càng yêu cầu kiến
 thức sâu rộng hơn, nên không có mấy người làm được. VN trình độ phát
 triển thì lại quá thấp, chỉ chú trọng tới ứng dụng ở mức trên (như
 Web, CMS, Portal..., những chủ đề cuộc thi IT nào cũng thấp xuất hiện
 hố hố).
Hơi tự ti quá rồi. Rất Việt Nam.

 
 Tuy nhiên ngày càng có nhiều người VN đóng góp cho các project OSS
Cái này đúng, đã rõ!!

 lớn. Thử search Linux kernel mới nhất coi sao: có ít nhất 5 người VN
 có mặt, làm việc ở Intel, IBM và Gmail :-)
Chỉ có thể làm việc tại Google thôi chứ nhỉ!
Nếu tính email có đuôi @gmail.com là làm việc tại ...Gmail thì địa chỉ của tôi 
là tat...@gmail.com đấy! :)

 
 # grep -r Nguyen linux-2.6.34.5/
 
 linux-2.6.34.5/arch/x86/kernel/kprobes.c: * 2005-May  Hien Nguyen
 h...@us.ibm.com, Jim Keniston
 linux-2.6.34.5/drivers/infiniband/hw/ehca/hcp_phyp.h: *
 Hoang-Nam Nguyen hngu...@de.ibm.com
 linux-2.6.34.5/drivers/infiniband/hw/ehca/ehca_mrmw.c: *
 Hoang-Nam Nguyen hngu...@de.ibm.com
 linux-2.6.34.5/drivers/infiniband/hw/ehca/ehca_mcast.c: *
 Hoang-Nam Nguyen hngu...@de.ibm.com
 linux-2.6.34.5/drivers/infiniband/hw/ehca/ehca_uverbs.c: *
 Hoang-Nam Nguyen hngu...@de.ibm.com
 linux-2.6.34.5/drivers/infiniband/hw/ehca/hcp_if.h: *
 Hoang-Nam Nguyen hngu...@de.ibm.com
 linux-2.6.34.5/drivers/infiniband/hw/ehca/ehca_qp.c: *
 Hoang-Nam Nguyen hngu...@de.ibm.com
 linux-2.6.34.5/drivers/infiniband/hw/ehca/ehca_cq.c: *
 Hoang-Nam Nguyen hngu...@de.ibm.com
 linux-2.6.34.5/drivers/infiniband/hw/ehca/ehca_tools.h: *
 Hoang-Nam Nguyen hngu...@de.ibm.com
 linux-2.6.34.5/drivers/infiniband/hw/ehca/ehca_av.c: *  Authors:
 Hoang-Nam Nguyen hngu...@de.ibm.com
 linux-2.6.34.5/drivers/infiniband/hw/ehca/ehca_eq.c: *
 Hoang-Nam Nguyen hngu...@de.ibm.com
 linux-2.6.34.5/drivers/infiniband/hw/ehca/hipz_fns_core.h: *
 Hoang-Nam Nguyen hngu...@de.ibm.com
 linux-2.6.34.5/drivers/infiniband/hw/ehca/ehca_main.c: *
 Hoang-Nam Nguyen hngu...@de.ibm.com
 linux-2.6.34.5/drivers/infiniband/hw/ehca/ehca_reqs.c: *  Authors:
 Hoang-Nam Nguyen hngu...@de.ibm.com
 linux-2.6.34.5/drivers/infiniband/hw/ehca/hcp_if.c: *
 Hoang-Nam Nguyen hngu...@de.ibm.com
 linux-2.6.34.5/drivers/infiniband/hw/ehca/ehca_irq.c: *
 Hoang-Nam Nguyen hngu...@de.ibm.com
 linux-2.6.34.5/drivers/infiniband/hw/ehca/hcp_phyp.c: *
 Hoang-Nam Nguyen hngu...@de.ibm.com
 linux-2.6.34.5/drivers/block/umem.c: * 10/05/01: Phap Nguyen - Rebuilt
 the driver
 linux-2.6.34.5/drivers/block/umem.c: * 10/22/01: Phap Nguyen - v2.1
 Added disk partitioning
 linux-2.6.34.5/drivers/block/umem.c: * 07Nov2001:Phap Nguyen - Select
 pci read command: 06, 12, 15 (Decimal)
 linux-2.6.34.5/drivers/block/umem.c: * 07Jan2002: P. Nguyen  - Used
 PCI Memory Write  Invalidate for DMA
 linux-2.6.34.5/drivers/usb/storage/unusual_devs.h:/* Reported and
 patched by Nguyen Anh Quynh aqu...@gmail.com */
 linux-2.6.34.5/drivers/pci/pci-acpi.c: * Copyright (C) 2004 Tom Long
 Nguyen tom.l.ngu...@intel.com
 linux-2.6.34.5/drivers/pci/pcie/portdrv_pci.c

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