Re: DFHSM Abend

2008-05-21 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Thanks Scott. Sorry I missed that. 
 
 E37   | A SORTOUT or OUTFIL data set was allocated on a
   | primary volume that had either insufficient storage or 
   | excessive fragmentation, and no secondary volume was   
   | specified. Specify more than one volume in the VOLSER  
   | parameter for the SORTOUT or OUTFIL data set or
   | compress the volume to allow it to contain the full 16 
   | extents.   
 
That would seem to be self explanatory. 



From: Scott Rowe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue 5/20/2008 5:15 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: DFHSM Abend



That's not going to do much good, he said it was a PDS.

 O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/20/2008 4:13 PM 
Gary,

Issue a hsend q setsys   and see if you get the following:

MAXRECALLTASKS=05, RECALL=ANYSTORAGEVOLUME(LIKE), MAXEXTENTS=06,
(CONT.) CONVERSION=NO, VOLCOUNT=ANY, TAPERECALLLIMITS(TASK=00015
(CONT.) TAPE=00020)

Volcount=any is what you are looking for. Now does the file being recalled have 
a Dataclass which allows multiple volumes? You may have to alter the catalog 
entry to a dataclass with a volcount greater than 1.



From: Gary Green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue 5/20/2008 3:55 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: DFHSM Abend



Wouild someone be able to help me save a bunch of research time with this 
problem.

We have a user that is attempting to recall a migrated dataset (standard JCL 
PDS).  However, DFHSM is getting an abend E37-04 during the recall process.  If 
this were a  recover I would allocate a new dataset, with appropriate 
attributes, and then ask HSM to replace the existing one.  However, the only 
options with a recall are volume, unit, wait, etc...  I tried it myself, even 
sendig the recalled ds to other volumes, all to no avail.

I do not recall getting anything like this for more than 10 years and I forgot 
the work-around.

Thanks for anything anyone can contribute.



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DASD or TAPE attached via TCP/IP

2008-05-21 Thread Michael Knigge

All,

I wonder how it is possible to attach DASD- or TAPE-Devives via TCP/IP. 
There is a product called mfnetdisk (see mknetdisk.com) that is able to 
emulate a 3390 that resides on a PC and is accessed via TCP/IP.


So... I ask myself how this is possible. And (for me) even more 
interesting, would it also be possible to do the same for a Tape?



Thank you,
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Re: Electronic order of PTF

2008-05-21 Thread Staller, Allan
This is common if you are far backleveled on your maint. The online
order process only seems to go back one level when you request pre-reqs.
Those pre-reqs may have additional pre-reqs so you will need to order
those separately.

If you have the time, you can do the research yourself with the aid of
IBMLINK (when available) and only place one order. I have found it
faster to order what I want to install, run an applycheck, and place
another order for any missing pre-reqs. I have *never* had to go past a
total of three orders to get all necessary maint.

HTH,


snip
Several times I have ordered PTF's (for example for DB2), over Internet 
with all the PREREQ's  and got several 100 Mbytes.
After I was unable to install, as some PREREQ were missing etc etc , I 
asked the IBM to help, and they provided a list
with some tool , which contained only the really necessary PREREQ's
Somebody knows about his tool ?
Can we get this somehow  ?
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Re: TCPIP CONVERT GATEWAY STMT and ADD OSA

2008-05-21 Thread Melissa Perry
Can someone see why this won't work.  I have added the OSA info and when I 
activate configuration, I cannot get to the mainframe through either device.  I 
can't seem to see what I have done wrong..The TNCP device is existing 
and works until I add the OSA 'stuff' in.Although, I do use a gateway NOT 
beginroutes with the original IP stack with just the TNCP STUFF...
Original gateway statement:

GATEWAY
192.168.4=TNCPA01   4096  0
DEFAULTNET 192.168.4.1TNCPA01   4096  0)

***NEWIP STACK INFO*
DEVICE TNCPA01R CLAW A00 MVS WTNCPA01 NONE
LINK TNCPA01 IP 0 TNCPA01R
DEVICE OSA2100 MPCIPA PRIROUTER
LINK OSA21LNK IPAQENET OSA2100

HOME
  192.168.4.2   TNCPA01
  192.168.18.3   OSA21LNK

BEGINROUTES
 Route 192.168.4.0/24   = TNCPA01  MTU 4096
 Route 192.168.18.0/24  = OSA21LNK MTU 1500
ROUTE DEFAULT 192.168.18.3  OSA21LNK MTU 1500
ENDROUTES

START TNCPA01R
START OSA2100

**VTAM TRL**
OSA2100 VBUILD TYPE=TRL
OSA2100P TRLE  LNCTL=MPC,   
   READ=2100,   
   WRITE=2101,  
   DATAPATH=(2102), 
   MPCLEVEL=QDIO,   
   PORTNAME=OSA2100

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Re: USSTAB color question

2008-05-21 Thread yingyan
Hi all,
Thanks for all your help.I will try what your said.
Tom,
if the macros are free,I'd like to try them. 
Thanks again.
BS
YY Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 12:37:40 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 
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control the color of the TEXT in USSTAB.Anybody  know where IBM explain how 
to control that?Thanks a lot.  BR  YY  [SNIP] Yan Ying, If you think 
the following macros would help, I suppose I could send  them to you. Laying 
out the USSTAB screen using colors is easy with a set of 5  macros, which I 
will call the TCPHEAD package, that my shop has. I am  not sure where they 
came from, but I suspect McGill University because  the TCPHEAD macro itself 
says:   WRITTEN BY: JOSETTE MUYAL  PROPERTY OF MCGILL UNIVERSITY COMPUTING 
CENTER   Many changes made by Leonard D. Woren  of the University of 
Southern California and we used to run McGill's TN3270 before they sold it to 
Hummingbird.  Here are a few lines of our assembler code that lay out the 
USSTAB using  the F3270 macro of the TCPHEAD package to specify positions and 
colors:  * Put the following in green at line 1, column 62  F3270 
POS=(1,61),ATTR=(SFE,GREEN) DC C'ENGINEERING LPAR' * Continue in green at 
line 2, column 3 F3270 POS=(2,2) DC C'For assistance call the UIS Help Desk 
at (202)687-4949.' * The following in red at line 3, column 63 F3270 
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Re: Electronic order of PTF

2008-05-21 Thread Michael Wickman
Maybe EPSPT.  It is available as a download.

Mike

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Hi

If we are here:

Several times I have ordered PTF's (for example for DB2), over Internet 
with all the PREREQ's  and got several 100 Mbytes.
After I was unable to install, as some PREREQ were missing etc etc , I 
asked the IBM to help, and they provided a list
with some tool , which contained only the really necessary PREREQ's
Somebody knows about his tool ?
Can we get this somehow  ?

Dean Montevago wrote:

If it's marked shipped in SRD, click on it and there will be FTP
instructions to download it to your workstation. Do you have the rest
of
the steps to upload and unwind it ? 

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My co-worker just ordered electronically a PTF. The order status shows
it 
is ready.

OK. Now how do I get it?

Jerry

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Re: Free z/OS webserver

2008-05-21 Thread Rob Schramm
Lester,

There really isn't.  The HTTP Server that comes with z/OS is a HTTP 
Server.  All the servers that I mentioned were Application Servers. 
Typical configurations would put the HTTP Server in front of the 
Application Server... not that you have to but each server has it's 
strengths and weaknesses.

The IBM HTTP Server (based on Apache HTTP Server) can also run on z/OS.  I 
am also aware of people running Apache HTTP Server.  I mentioned the 
others since the original post left room for interpretation.

As far as Jzos is concerned, it is just a really easy way to run any JAVA 
class as a STC.  The wrapper that Steve and Kirk came up with can be 
written as evidenced by the only other z/Wiki advocate Harry Metske.  But 
Jzos works so well as to preclude the effort unless there is some 
overriding technical explorative need. 

Rob Schramm
Sirius Computer Solutions

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Re: DASD or TAPE attached via TCP/IP

2008-05-21 Thread R.S.

Michael Knigge wrote:

All,

I wonder how it is possible to attach DASD- or TAPE-Devives via TCP/IP. 
There is a product called mfnetdisk (see mknetdisk.com) that is able to 
emulate a 3390 that resides on a PC and is accessed via TCP/IP.


So... I ask myself how this is possible. And (for me) even more 
interesting, would it also be possible to do the same for a Tape?


Yes, it is possible, it works. Residence of emulated 3390 on PC is 
irrelevant.

It is also possible for tape ...on other systems. See iSCSI.

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Re: Free z/OS webserver

2008-05-21 Thread Steve Comstock

Bob wrote:

Hi Folks

Is there a free z/OS based weberserver that anyone is aware of?  I think the 
IBM HTTP server is Linus / AIX etc... not z/Os. 
Just want to use it to learn some stuff 

- Bob 


As others have noted, the IBM HTTP server that comes free
with z/OS works fine.

What a surprise to mention that we have training in how to
use this feature...

Introduction to z/OS UNIX - 3 days

   in just 3 days, the students can get around in
   the z/OS UNIX world comfortably, including each
   student creating their own [small] website hosted
   on the z/OS system; optional section on telnet



Shell Script Programming in z/OS UNIX - 3 days

   this course extends the above course with more
   UNIX commands, how to create and run scripts,
   and other useful UNIX skills such as the sed
   editor; optional sections on vi



You and z/OS and the World Wide Web - 5 days

   this course is an intensive, standards-based
   (open source) coverage of skills to create
   and maintain sophisticated websites hosted on
   you mainframe, without the need to license
   WebSphere; lightweight (does not drag down the
   system performance) and inexpensive (the HTTP
   server comes included with z/OS for no extra
   charge)



Devloping Applications on z/OS UNIX - 3 days **

   this course integrates coding programs in the
   classic languages, compiling under z/OS UNIX,
   and running under a UNIX shell; multi-lingual
   (Assembler, COBOL, PL/I, C)


Related: a series of courses on how to code and use
CGI (Common Gateway Interface) programs to complement
your z/OS-hosted website; multi-lingual; considering
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Services, Ajax, Wikis, and more, as demand / interest
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Re: DFHSM Abend

2008-05-21 Thread Traylor, Terry
I believe I've see this sometimes where an SMS managed dataset that has
a storclass with the guaranteed attribute is being recalled.  Therefore,
HSM will only attempt to recall it to the same volume from which it was
migrated.


Terry Traylor 
charlesSCHWAB 
TIS Mainframe Storage Management 
Remedy Queue: tis-hs-mstg
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Subject: DFHSM Abend

Wouild someone be able to help me save a bunch of research time with
this problem.

We have a user that is attempting to recall a migrated dataset (standard
JCL PDS).  However, DFHSM is getting an abend E37-04 during the recall
process.  If this were a  recover I would allocate a new dataset, with
appropriate attributes, and then ask HSM to replace the existing one.
However, the only options with a recall are volume, unit, wait, etc...
I tried it myself, even sendig the recalled ds to other volumes, all to
no avail.

I do not recall getting anything like this for more than 10 years and I
forgot the work-around.

Thanks for anything anyone can contribute.

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Re: DFHSM Abend - resend

2008-05-21 Thread Traylor, Terry
I believe I've see this sometimes where an SMS managed dataset that has
a storclass with the guaranteed attribute is being recalled.  Therefore,
HSM will only attempt to recall it to the same volume from which it was
migrated.  Alter the storclass on the dataset to one that does not have
the guaranteed attribute before recalling it.


Terry Traylor 
charlesSCHWAB 
TIS Mainframe Storage Management 
Remedy Queue: tis-hs-mstg
(602) 977-5154 

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To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: DFHSM Abend

Wouild someone be able to help me save a bunch of research time with
this problem.

We have a user that is attempting to recall a migrated dataset (standard
JCL PDS).  However, DFHSM is getting an abend E37-04 during the recall
process.  If this were a  recover I would allocate a new dataset, with
appropriate attributes, and then ask HSM to replace the existing one.
However, the only options with a recall are volume, unit, wait, etc...
I tried it myself, even sendig the recalled ds to other volumes, all to
no avail.

I do not recall getting anything like this for more than 10 years and I
forgot the work-around.

Thanks for anything anyone can contribute.

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Re: Large Page Datasets APAR OA20749

2008-05-21 Thread Knutson, Sam
PTFs are available. 

Interesting note about PAGEDEL and use of ESQA. 

Best Regards, 

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Think big, act bold, start simple, grow fast... 

APAR Identifier .. OA20749  Last Changed  08/05/02
  PAGE DATASET SIZE LIMIT IS 16M SLOTS AT Z/OS R1.8
 
 
  Symptom .. IN INCORROUT Status ... CLOSED  PER
  Severity ... 3  Date Closed . 08/04/18
  Component .. 5752SC1CW  Duplicate of 
  Reported Release . 730  Fixed Release  999
  Component Name 5752 AUX STOR M  Special Notice   ATTENTION
  Current Target Date ..08/05/02  Flags
  SCP ...
  Platform    PERVASIVE
 
 
  Status Detail: SHIPMENT - Packaged solution is available for
shipment.
 
  PE PTF List:
 
  PTF List:
  Release 730   : UA40555 available 08/04/30 (F804 )
  Release 740   : UA40556 available 08/04/30 (F804 )
 
 
  Parent APAR:
  Child APAR list:
 
 
  ERROR DESCRIPTION:
  The MVS Initialization and Tuning Guide (SA22-71591-04) in
  section 2.2 Page Data Set Sizes indicates page datasets can be
  no more than 1M (1,048,576) slots (4GB) in size.  As of z/OS
  R1.8, this is no longer true, page datasets can now be allocated
  as large as 16M (16,777,216) slots (64GB) in size.
  HOWEVER, ASM still supports only up to 4G page datasets.
 
 
  LOCAL FIX:
  IDCAMS DEFINE PAGESPACE supports 4G page datasets at z/OS R1.8.
  HOWEVER, ASM still only supports page datasets up to 4G in size.
 
 
  PROBLEM SUMMARY:
  
  * USERS AFFECTED: Users of HBB7730 and HBB7740. The fix*
  * is included in HBB7750.  *
  
  * PROBLEM DESCRIPTION: ASM does not fully support page data*
  *  sets larger than 4GB.   *
  
  * RECOMMENDATION:  *
  
  Page data sets larger than 4GB can be defined as of z/OS1.8,
  however various problems can occur when a page data set is
  defined to be larger than 32,767 cylinders. Signed halfword
  fields that represent the number of cylinders are treated
  as negative values if the size of the data set exceeds 32,767
  cylinders. This can result in incorrect comparisons or
  operations on these fields.
 
  Possible symptoms include:
  - Increased aux slot usage due to slots not being freed
properly by module ILRFRSLT
  - Incorrect page of data being paged-in from aux storage
 
 
  PROBLEM CONCLUSION:
  ASM is updated to support page data sets larger than 4GB.
  PATCYLNO (ILRPAT) and other internal fields are redefined to
  be unsigned in order to accommodate a maximum of 65,520
  cylinders.
 
   Documentation Updates
  
 
  Title - MVS Initialization and Tuning Guide
  SRLs - SA22-7591-04 SA22-7591-06
 
  |--- LOCATION IN PUBLICATION -|
  | |
  | Chapter 2. Auxiliary Storage Management Initialization  |
  |  Section: Page Data Set Sizes   |
  | |
  |-|
 
  Current text:
 
   Page data set sizes can affect system performance. The maximum
   number of slots for a page data set is 1,048,576 slots
   per data set. Note the following recommendations:
 
  Updated text:
 
   | Page data set sizes can affect system performance. The
   | maximum number of slots for a page data set is 16,777,215.
   | However, the size of a page data set will be limited
   | by the amount of available space on the volume on which
   | a data set is to be allocated. A 3390 device with 65,520
   | cylinders contains 11,793,600 slots.
 Note the following recommendations:
 
  |--- LOCATION IN PUBLICATION -|
  | |
  | Chapter 2. Auxiliary Storage Management Initialization  |
  |  Section: Page Data Set Sizes   |
  | |
  |-|
 
  Add a new section to describe the virtual storage usage
  associated with each page data set.
 
   | Storage Requirements for Page Data Sets
 
   |  ASM allocates storage in ESQA for every in-use page
   |  data set. This storage is obtained at IPL time for the
   |  data sets defined during IPL, and during processing of the
   |  

Re: Free z/OS webserver

2008-05-21 Thread Michael Poil
And if you get Jzos (which comes with the JAVA 1.5 and above) then you 
can ...

JZOS also comes with Java 1.4.2 31-bit (but not  with the 1.4.2 64-bit).

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Re: FDRABR ARCHIVE

2008-05-21 Thread Stephen Mednick
Dave,

I would definitely recommend you pick up the phone and call the Innovation
folks to discuss any misunderstandings you might have with the operation of
FDR/ABR. They'll only be too happy to talk with you and review what it is you
are doing.

As for your comment on a useful equivalet to HSM recycle, you need to review
the documentation on FDRTSEL.

Stephen Mednick
Computer Supervisory Services
Sydney, Australia 

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No, or I've misunderstood the FDR doc. If you specify 
 catalog retention against the two TAPE DD's, FDR doesn't 
 assign an expire date to the archive dataset. The archive 
 will exist until it is uncataloged.
 That's why I need two archive steps. One does the NOLIMITs 
 (that FDRABR flat interprets different than HSM) and the 
 other does all the other MGMTCLAS's.
The whole backup/archive job has around 40 or 50 steps. A 
 combination of FDRREPORT, REXX, SORT, DCOLLECT, and FDRABR 
 steps. I can't decide if it's kludgy or elegant :)
If I'm wrong, I'd like to here about it soon.
What I don't have as yet is a useful equivalent to HSM 
 recycle. But I'm using virtual tape with 99,999 available volumes.
 

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Re: DASD or TAPE attached via TCP/IP

2008-05-21 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Knigge) writes:
 I wonder how it is possible to attach DASD- or TAPE-Devives via
 TCP/IP. There is a product called mfnetdisk (see mknetdisk.com) that
 is able to emulate a 3390 that resides on a PC and is accessed via
 TCP/IP.

 So... I ask myself how this is possible. And (for me) even more
 interesting, would it also be possible to do the same for a Tape?

for historical reference ... the internal csc/vm vm370 release
... mentioned in this old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#email731212
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750102
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750430

was somehow leaked to att longlines circa 1975. they took this highly
modified csc/vm vm370 release and made numerous local modifications
... including remote device support ... that would run over various
kinds of communication links. basically virtual machine channel program
simulation would forward the stuff to remote site for actual execution
on the real locally attached device. this system manage to propogate to
a number of att longline machines. Nearly a decade later, the att
national account manager managed to track me down ... longlines had
continued to migrate the vm370 system thru various generations of
mainframes ... but it came to an end with move to 370/XA ... and he was
looking for assistance in helping move longlines off that vm370 system.

this isn't all that much difference with standard i/o virtualization,
aka a copy of the virtual channel programs are replicated with real
address substituted for virtual addresses. in the case of remote device,
the replicated real channel programs are run on remote system ...
with appropriate fiddling of virtual pages on the application machine
and the real pages on the machine where the device was attached.

some amount of the fiddling was handled by services running in a
separate virtual machine. note this isn't all that different from what
is done by various virtual machine mainframe simulators that run on
various other kinds of platforms ... and include simulation of various
kinds of mainframe i/o devices on completely different kinds of devices.

the specific communication mechanism used is the least of the issues.

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2008-05-21 Thread Leonard Sasso
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Hardware Alerts

2008-05-21 Thread Hal Merritt
Our auditors are asking us if there is any way we can receive automatic
email alerts when the gear phones home. I am aware of some email
features on devices such as the DS8100, but we don't currently allow any
external exposure to those devices. 

 

Does anyone know if  there some way IBM could generate an email upon a
phone home event?

 

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Re: Display or view the Crypto Current domain index or Usage domain index

2008-05-21 Thread Greg Boyd
I think you’re trying to determine which domain ICSF should use 
programmatically, so that ICSF start-up can be automatic, even if multiple 
domains are available.  Keep in mind that if ICSF won't start, because it 
doesn't know which domain to use, then you can't query ICSF to find out 
which domain its using :-(  So, your solution has to determine which domain to 
use, completely outside of ICSF.

If there was a control block with the list of domains available to that LPAR, 
how would you determine which one it should use?  The goal is to have ICSF 
start pointing to a domain that contains the master keys (loaded in the secure 
hardware) which match the master keys used to create the CKDS and PKDS 
that ICSF is using.  But since ICSF isn’t started, you can’t access the secure 
hardware, so you couldn’t query the MKVP of the SYM-MK nor the hash of the 
ASYM-MK (to compare it to the MKVP/Hash patterns stored in the 
CKDS/PKDS).  I can’t think of any other way to programmatically determine 
that you’re using the ‘right’ domain.

As Rob Schramm and Mark Zelden have pointed out domain assignments are 
something best handled by planning and coordination with the DR provider.  If 
your DR provider gives you a system with access to only a single domain, then 
ICSF will start just fine without the domain parm in the options data set.  
(And 
if that’s how your system is configured, no changes will be required for the DR 
site.)  If your DR provider gives you a system with multiple domains assigned, 
then I think you would want to manually verify the domain assignment.  What 
is the likelihood that another customer is executing a DR exercise and happens 
to use the same domain assignment that you use?  If you start ICSF pointing 
to someone else’s domain, or they start ICSF pointing to your domain, no data 
will be compromised, but the master keys will be out of sync and you’re going 
to have to stop ICSF and correct the problem before continuing.

Unless the DR site is a hot site, you’re also going to have to load your master 
keys, so manual intervention is required after IPLing the system.  Before 
starting ICSF and the master key ceremony you should check the domain 
parms.  The domain would have to have been assigned before the IPL, and 
hopefully communicated to you.

Greg


On Tue, 20 May 2008 09:31:12 -0500, Roberto Ibarra Magdaleno 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Greg,

That's exactly what I'm looking for a way to determine the Domain number
it must be out there since the ICSF STC when started takes it, determines
it? if it's not coded in CSFPRMxx.

Any ideas?

Regards.

Roberto.

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Greg Boyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 sniped text


 I am not aware of a way to determine the Domain number, but its an
 interesting requirement.  I would think that selecting/assigning a domain
 at
 the DR site would be covered in the planning phase. In most cases, they 
can
 probably assign the domain that you want.  In the rare cases where they
 can't (another customer who uses the same domain is performing a DR at 
the
 same time on the same machine) then the DR provider should tell you that
 today you're using Domain 10, and you'll have to change the Options data
 set.  Whether the DR provider tells you, or you query the environment,
 either
 way, you have to update the options data set.  It might save you a false
 start on starting ICSF, but you wouldn't need to reIPL, simply update the
 options and start ICSF again.

 Greg Boyd
 IBM WSC, System z Crypto




 On Fri, 16 May 2008 13:07:01 -0500, Roberto Ibarra Magdaleno
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Good question David, is there any shop out there where they use multiple
 domains per LPAR and how they use them if there is any?
 Anyway, and maybe now is just a matter of curiosity, does anybody 
knows a
 place or a method to extract such data from the system before starting
 ICSF?
 
 On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 5:01 AM, Jousma, David [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  I consider it a pretty unlikely situation where there are multiple
  domains per lpar in most shops.  It is only a gut feeling on my part,
  however.
 
 
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  Mainframe Services
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  -Original Message-
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On
  Behalf Of Roberto Ibarra Magdaleno
  Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 2:33 PM
  To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
  Subject: Re: Display or view the Crypto Current domain index or Usage
  domain index
 
  Still the same question David, how to know if there is always only one
  domain without asking anyone, but the system?
 
 
  On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Jousma, David 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
   If there is ever only one domain assigned to a particular lpar, then
   don't code anything, period.  My understanding is that domain only
   needs to be coded if you assign more than one to the same 

Re: DFHSM Abend

2008-05-21 Thread Martinez, Frank J
Forget about HRECALL.  Do H


From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Rowe 
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Subject: Re: DFHSM Abend

That's not going to do much good, he said it was a PDS.

 O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/20/2008 4:13 PM 
Gary,

Issue a hsend q setsys   and see if you get the following:

MAXRECALLTASKS=05, RECALL=ANYSTORAGEVOLUME(LIKE), MAXEXTENTS=06,
(CONT.) CONVERSION=NO, VOLCOUNT=ANY, TAPERECALLLIMITS(TASK=00015
(CONT.) TAPE=00020)

Volcount=any is what you are looking for. Now does the file being recalled have 
a Dataclass which allows multiple volumes? You may have to alter the catalog 
entry to a dataclass with a volcount greater than 1.



From: Gary Green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue 5/20/2008 3:55 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: DFHSM Abend



Wouild someone be able to help me save a bunch of research time with this 
problem.

We have a user that is attempting to recall a migrated dataset (standard JCL 
PDS).  However, DFHSM is getting an abend E37-04 during the recall process.  If 
this were a  recover I would allocate a new dataset, with appropriate 
attributes, and then ask HSM to replace the existing one.  However, the only 
options with a recall are volume, unit, wait, etc...  I tried it myself, even 
sendig the recalled ds to other volumes, all to no avail.

I do not recall getting anything like this for more than 10 years and I forgot 
the work-around.

Thanks for anything anyone can contribute.



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Re: DFHSM Abend

2008-05-21 Thread Martinez, Frank J
f


From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Rowe 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: DFHSM Abend

That's not going to do much good, he said it was a PDS.

 O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/20/2008 4:13 PM 
Gary,

Issue a hsend q setsys   and see if you get the following:

MAXRECALLTASKS=05, RECALL=ANYSTORAGEVOLUME(LIKE), MAXEXTENTS=06,
(CONT.) CONVERSION=NO, VOLCOUNT=ANY, TAPERECALLLIMITS(TASK=00015
(CONT.) TAPE=00020)

Volcount=any is what you are looking for. Now does the file being recalled have 
a Dataclass which allows multiple volumes? You may have to alter the catalog 
entry to a dataclass with a volcount greater than 1.



From: Gary Green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue 5/20/2008 3:55 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: DFHSM Abend



Wouild someone be able to help me save a bunch of research time with this 
problem.

We have a user that is attempting to recall a migrated dataset (standard JCL 
PDS).  However, DFHSM is getting an abend E37-04 during the recall process.  If 
this were a  recover I would allocate a new dataset, with appropriate 
attributes, and then ask HSM to replace the existing one.  However, the only 
options with a recall are volume, unit, wait, etc...  I tried it myself, even 
sendig the recalled ds to other volumes, all to no avail.

I do not recall getting anything like this for more than 10 years and I forgot 
the work-around.

Thanks for anything anyone can contribute.



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Re: DFHSM Abend

2008-05-21 Thread Martinez, Frank J
Forget about HRECALL.  Use HRECOVER, that way you get the backup.  You can even 
go back a couple of generations in case the last one was corrupted.


From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Rowe 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: DFHSM Abend

That's not going to do much good, he said it was a PDS.

 O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/20/2008 4:13 PM 
Gary,

Issue a hsend q setsys   and see if you get the following:

MAXRECALLTASKS=05, RECALL=ANYSTORAGEVOLUME(LIKE), MAXEXTENTS=06,
(CONT.) CONVERSION=NO, VOLCOUNT=ANY, TAPERECALLLIMITS(TASK=00015
(CONT.) TAPE=00020)

Volcount=any is what you are looking for. Now does the file being recalled have 
a Dataclass which allows multiple volumes? You may have to alter the catalog 
entry to a dataclass with a volcount greater than 1.



From: Gary Green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue 5/20/2008 3:55 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: DFHSM Abend



Wouild someone be able to help me save a bunch of research time with this 
problem.

We have a user that is attempting to recall a migrated dataset (standard JCL 
PDS).  However, DFHSM is getting an abend E37-04 during the recall process.  If 
this were a  recover I would allocate a new dataset, with appropriate 
attributes, and then ask HSM to replace the existing one.  However, the only 
options with a recall are volume, unit, wait, etc...  I tried it myself, even 
sendig the recalled ds to other volumes, all to no avail.

I do not recall getting anything like this for more than 10 years and I forgot 
the work-around.

Thanks for anything anyone can contribute.



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Another Generalized Resource question

2008-05-21 Thread David Day
I would like to be able to add profiles to the Facility class within racf such 
that the profile will be made up of three qualifiers.  The 1st two qualifiers 
will always be the same, and the 3rd will change.  I have created a profile 
that contained 3 qualifiers, with the last as DAD*.  DAD is my userid on the 
mvs system I am working on.  After defining the profile, and then executing the 
permit, and the setropts refresh, I still get non-zero return from the racroute 
request=fastauth for the entity when the 3rd qualifier in the entity is DADIVP. 
 Shouldn't DADIVP match against DAD* ?

--Dave Day

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Re: Hardware Alerts

2008-05-21 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
Of what value is that to an auditor?

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Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage

2008-05-21 Thread Dave Barry
Not to mention that your NDM has multiple channels (subtasks) sending and 
receiving at a given time, but the velocity applies to the address space as a 
whole.  That is the fundamental condundrum when using velocity goals.

We had the same problem of being occasionally overwhelmed by NDM on one system. 
 However, our first shot at using a resource group involved setting a maximum 
so low, our file transfer people couldn't get their work done even when spare 
capacity was available.

The way we solved it was:

Create a service class NDM with importance 5, velocity 1
Associate the NDM service class to a resource group by the same name 
with a relatively low minimum capacity
Assign the NDM task to the NDM service class.

It works by ensuring an acceptable NDM workflow during peak hours, but allowing 
it to increase as much as possible during off hours without impacting 
production work.  We haven't heard a peep out of either application or support 
staff since.  The technique worked so well, we went on to use it for another 
hard-to-manage started task, the NFS z/OS client.

db

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 Hello... VOL=50 basically means half an engine! (I have no idea how
many
 engines you have).

Half an engine? No. It means basically that if you sample the work over a 
period of time, that 50% of the time that the work was eligible to be 
dispatched it actually was dispatched.

Arguably this is an extremely crude and ill-conceived way of defining a 
performance goal, but it's the one we were given :-(

 But  my point is VEL=50 is very high for an IMP=4 workload (IMO).

Often true, but not necessarily. (playing devil's advocate :-)

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Re: Hardware Alerts

2008-05-21 Thread McKown, John
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 Our auditors are asking us if there is any way we can receive 
 automatic
 email alerts when the gear phones home. I am aware of some email
 features on devices such as the DS8100, but we don't 
 currently allow any
 external exposure to those devices. 
 
 Does anyone know if  there some way IBM could generate an email upon a
 phone home event?
 
 Thanks!!

This is just an ignorant thought. But we have a central problem system,
called CA-Unicenter. It can do SMS paging, via email, to our phones. It
can also receive SNMP traps to generate those. Can your hardware be
connected to your LAN and set up to issue SNMP traps to something like
CA-Unicenter?

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plpa pages and pgser

2008-05-21 Thread Paul Schuster
Hello: xPLPA pages are eligible for page out (right?)  So if a PGSER FREE is
issued (preceded by a PGSER FIX) against a xPLPA page, would it make it any
more easier for it to be paged out?

Trying to determine the reason for a problem which may be caused by such a
PGSER FREE invocation.

Thank you.

Paul 

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APPC no longer support on zos/1.9

2008-05-21 Thread Tommy Tsui
hi,

any shop have migration plan on APPC application ? or use FTP instead of
APPC?


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Re: DASD or TAPE attached via TCP/IP

2008-05-21 Thread Michael Knigge
Yes, it is possible, it works. Residence of emulated 3390 on PC is 
irrelevant.

It is also possible for tape ...on other systems. See iSCSI.


And how to configure on z/OS? Any hint for a manual?

Bye,
Michael

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Re: FDRABR ARCHIVE

2008-05-21 Thread Joseph Butz

Hi Dave,

Regarding this:

|What I don't have as yet is a useful equivalent to HSM recycle. But
| I'm using virtual tape with 99,999 available volumes.

FDRABR provides a utility call FDRTSEL to recycle archive tapes.

FDRTSEL (FDR Tape Selection Utility) can identify older tapes and copy, 
re-stack, and consolidate tapes to new volumes.
The FDRTSEL process will automatically update the Archive Control File 
and related catalog entries.
FDRTSEL will retain the original dump characteristics, archive date,  
backup data set names, and expiration date.  FDRTSEL has options to 
select archive backups primarily by age, or expiration date, but it can 
also select files by disk volume or backup volume.  Also with FDRTSEL 
you can put the output tapes under catalog control and maintain a fixed 
expiration date in the Archive Control File.


For more information, please contact Innovation Support.
Joe Butz

Gibney, Dave wrote:

   No, or I've misunderstood the FDR doc. If you specify catalog
retention against the two TAPE DD's, FDR doesn't assign an expire date
to the archive dataset. The archive will exist until it is uncataloged.
That's why I need two archive steps. One does the NOLIMITs (that FDRABR
flat interprets different than HSM) and the other does all the other
MGMTCLAS's.
   The whole backup/archive job has around 40 or 50 steps. A combination
of FDRREPORT, REXX, SORT, DCOLLECT, and FDRABR steps. I can't decide if
it's kludgy or elegant :)
   If I'm wrong, I'd like to here about it soon.
   What I don't have as yet is a useful equivalent to HSM recycle. But
I'm using virtual tape with 99,999 available volumes.

  

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Dave,

  In my shop we routinely recall datasets that were migrated 4 to 10


years
  

ago. From your post below you are arbitrarily changing your retpd from
NOLIMIT (or don't delete) to 1 year.

Have you checked with your users? How about legal?  One would think if


the
  

original retention was set to Nolimit then the data owner did not want
his/her data automatically deleted.



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  Sounds like Joseph is correct. I am finishing a conversion from HSM


to
  

FDR and I found I needed two archive runs. One for MGMTCLAS with all
NOLIMIT (which HSM keeps forever and FDRABR keeps a year) where I use
catalog control of the FDRABR tape and another step for the rest of my
MGMTCLAS's where FDRABR pays attention to SMS rules.




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Re: DFHSM Abend

2008-05-21 Thread Rick Fochtman

-snip


Issue a hsend q setsys   and see if you get the following:

MAXRECALLTASKS=05, RECALL=ANYSTORAGEVOLUME(LIKE), MAXEXTENTS=06,
(CONT.) CONVERSION=NO, VOLCOUNT=ANY, TAPERECALLLIMITS(TASK=00015
(CONT.) TAPE=00020) 


Volcount=any is what you are looking for. Now does the file being recalled have 
a Dataclass which allows multiple volumes? You may have to alter the catalog 
entry to a dataclass with a volcount greater than 1.
 


-unsnip-
Since the dataset being recalled is a PDS, increasing the VOLCOUNT will 
have no effect; PDS's can't be multiple-volume datasets.


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Re: Hardware Alerts

2008-05-21 Thread McKown, John
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 Of what value is that to an auditor?
 
 Daniel McLaughlin

Who knows? It is likely on some check list somewhere. Many auditors, the
poor kind, love those don't-have-to-think-about-it check lists!

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possible exists in all software for which you are responsible and what
they could be used for. I pointed him to about 30 different manuals and
said something like: You really should use a primary source and not
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Re: OA21346 for JES2 Dynamic Exit support - status??

2008-05-21 Thread Knutson, Sam
Thanks JES2 team!  OA21346 is CLOSED and PTFs are now available.

Best Regards, 

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 APAR Identifier .. OA21346  Last Changed  08/05/21
  NEW FUNCTION- DYNAMIC EXIT SUPPORT
 
 
  Symptom .. IN INCORROUT Status ... CLOSED  UR1
  Severity ... 3  Date Closed . 08/05/07
  Component .. 5752SC1BH  Duplicate of 
  Reported Release . 730  Fixed Release  999
  Component Name JES2 Special Notice   ATTENTION
  Current Target Date ..08/05/23  Flags
  SCP ...NEW FUNCTION
  Platform 
 
 
  Status Detail: SHIPMENT - Packaged solution is available for
shipment.
 
  PE PTF List:
 
  PTF List:
  Release 730   : UA40927 available 08/05/21 (1000 )
  Release 740   : UA40929 available 08/05/21 (1000 )
 
 
  Parent APAR:
  Child APAR list:
 
 
  ERROR DESCRIPTION:
  New Function
 
 
  LOCAL FIX:
 
 
  PROBLEM SUMMARY:
  
  * USERS AFFECTED: All users of HJE7730 and HJE7740 *
  
  * PROBLEM DESCRIPTION: This APAR implements dynamic loading,   *
  *  refreshing, and deleting installation   *
  *  load modules.  It also implements   *
  *  dynamic changing of the routines*
  *  associated with an exit.*
  
  * RECOMMENDATION:  *
  
  This adds the following 2 functions to JES2:
  - The ability to load, refresh, and delete installation load
modules (those not part of the IBM base JES2 code) after JES2
initialization processing.  Included is support to update
dynamic table pairs and exit routine address as needed.  In
addition, modules can provide load and delete routines to
perform any processing that may be needed to adjust data
pointers JES2 does not process.
Note that since this support does not support base JES2
modules, it can NOT be used to apply IBM service.
  - The ability to alter the list of routines associated with an
exit point via operator command.
 
  Additionally the following functions are provided:
  - An indicator that a load module cannot be dynamically altered
(loaded, deleted, or refreshed) post initialization.  This
indicator can be set via the $MODULE statement in the load
module (DYNAMIC keyword), or by setting the LMT2NDYN bit in
the load routine associated with the module.
  - Since loading modules can take an extended period of time if
the data set being loaded from is unavailable due to an ENQ or
a hardware reserve, a secondary command processor has been
added to process load (and other) requests.  Which command
processor handled a command is indicated by a new keyword on
the highest level $SCANTAB (COMPCE=) macro for the command.
All EXIT and LOADMOD commands are processed under the
secondary command processor.
  - PCE services have been updated to support the attaching and
detaching of PCEs at any time.  This allows the load and
delete routines to manage the PCEs it needs for processing.  A
new keyword DYNAMIC= was added to the $PCETAB macro to
indicate a PCE is eligible for dynamic processing.  The
existing DYNDETACH= keyword has been deprecated.

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On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 12:16:01 -0600, Tom Schmidt
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Does anyone have any idea when the APAR for JES2 Dynamic Exit reload 
support (OA21346) is likely to close?  Today's status display (from 
IBMLink) is quite anemic (no projected close date at all; which seems
odd to me).

I was under the impression that it was supposed to be released into the

wild before now.

I've been waiting for this too!  I just heard from my IBM contact that:
The APAR will be closing 'any day now', definitely before the end of
the year.

Apparently, it was slowed down getting all of the documentation
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Re: Free z/OS webserver

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Others have mentioned the z/OS HTTP Server that comes with 
z/OS. Be aware that this web server is *not* Apache based.
AFAIK, the IBM HTTP server for the other platforms *are*
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Re: DASD or TAPE attached via TCP/IP

2008-05-21 Thread Edward Jaffe

Michael Knigge wrote:
So... I ask myself how this is possible. And (for me) even more 
interesting, would it also be possible to do the same for a Tape?


How possible???! How is *anything* possible? Software!

Tape emulation is even easier than DASD.

FWIW, z/VSE has had this capability integrated into the operating system 
for a long time. They call it VTAPE. Either a local VSAM file or any 
file on a remote Java server (via TCP/IP) is used.


http://www.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zvse/products/vtape.html

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Re: Another Generalized Resource question(problem solved)

2008-05-21 Thread David Day

No need to respond to this, I have my problems solved.

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I would like to be able to add profiles to the Facility class within racf 
such that the profile will be made up of three qualifiers.  The 1st two 
qualifiers will always be the same, and the 3rd will change.  I have created 
a profile that contained 3 qualifiers, with the last as DAD*.  DAD is my 
userid on the mvs system I am working on.  After defining the profile, and 
then executing the permit, and the setropts refresh, I still get non-zero 
return from the racroute request=fastauth for the entity when the 3rd 
qualifier in the entity is DADIVP.  Shouldn't DADIVP match against DAD* ?


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Re: OA21346 for JES2 Dynamic Exit support - status??

2008-05-21 Thread Bob Shannon
Thanks JES2 team!  OA21346 is CLOSED and PTFs are now available.

About six months late  :-(

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Re: Hardware Alerts

2008-05-21 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
One of my favorite requests was for a vendor doing a conversion. He wanted 
all the passwords for user accounts in RACF. After being told three times 
that it was encrypted and not obtainable he went away muttering.



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Huh?? (Was: APPC no longer support on zos/1.9)

2008-05-21 Thread Edward Jaffe

Tommy Tsui wrote:

any shop have migration plan on APPC application ? or use FTP instead of
APPC?
  


The subject of this thread is like a misleading headline in a partisan 
newspaper.


APPC (LU 6.2) and all other SNA protocols are fully supported by z/OS 1.9.

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Re: OA21346 for JES2 Dynamic Exit support - status??

2008-05-21 Thread Pinnacle
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Thanks JES2 team!  OA21346 is CLOSED and PTFs are now available.

About six months late  :-(



More like 30 years late ;-)

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Re: APPC no longer support on zos/1.9

2008-05-21 Thread John Eells

Tommy Tsui wrote:

hi,

any shop have migration plan on APPC application ? or use FTP instead of
APPC?
snip


The subject line of your post leads me to believe that you think we 
withdrew support for APPC in z/OS R9.  This is NOT the case, and if you 
saw something from IBM that appears to say it is, please let me know so 
I can get it corrected.


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Re: Huh?? (Was: APPC no longer support on zos/1.9)

2008-05-21 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
I immediately pulled the migration guide and polled the group here. 

Whew!

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Re: Huh?? (Was: APPC no longer support on zos/1.9)

2008-05-21 Thread pilgrimpez
Phew! 

That's a relief..!

I'll stop frantically searching through the release notes and migration guides 
now then. I think I just had a minor heart attack.. :-)

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Re: DASD or TAPE attached via TCP/IP

2008-05-21 Thread Rich Smrcina

Yes, and it's very cool!

Edward Jaffe wrote:

Michael Knigge wrote:
So... I ask myself how this is possible. And (for me) even more 
interesting, would it also be possible to do the same for a Tape?


How possible???! How is *anything* possible? Software!

Tape emulation is even easier than DASD.

FWIW, z/VSE has had this capability integrated into the operating system 
for a long time. They call it VTAPE. Either a local VSAM file or any 
file on a remote Java server (via TCP/IP) is used.


http://www.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zvse/products/vtape.html



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Re: Display or view the Crypto Current domain index or Usage domain index

2008-05-21 Thread Hal Merritt
A very tiny nit; I believe the correct term for this context is 'master
key' (singular), not 'master keys' (plural). As I understand things so
far: Each domain has only one master key. A given LPAR can use only one
domain at a time. LPARs in a sysplex can share key clusters by having
the same master key loaded in each LPAR's respective domain. 

As I recall the relevant screens on the HMC, there were two entries. I
can't remember the names but they were not intuitive. But it looks like
one established the candidate domains and one established the designated
(I avoid the word 'default') domain. I think you could select multiple
domains from each list. I do recall IPL'ing an LPAR with the wrong
domain specified the ICSF parms and I seem to recall that is failed on a
master key issue as opposed to a domain access issue. But memory fails
all too often these days :-)  

I suppose you could have multiple key clusters (each using a different
master key) that would be used at different times by switching domains,
but one would wonder why. 

To some it may not be too big of a deal, but we are following
recommendations that we (the sysprogs) don't enter the master key, and
the master key never flows in the open. Designated security officers
enter key parts so even they do not know the whole key. And that goes
for DR as well as BAU (business as usual). Most of that is in place and
somewhat working.

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I think you're trying to determine which domain ICSF should use 
programmatically, so that ICSF start-up can be automatic, even if
multiple 
domains are available.  Keep in mind that if ICSF won't start, because
it 
doesn't know which domain to use, then you can't query ICSF to find out 
which domain its using :-(  So, your solution has to determine which
domain to 
use, completely outside of ICSF.

If there was a control block with the list of domains available to that
LPAR, 
how would you determine which one it should use?  The goal is to have
ICSF 
start pointing to a domain that contains the master keys (loaded in the
secure 
hardware) which match the master keys used to create the CKDS and PKDS 
that ICSF is using.  But since ICSF isn't started, you can't access the
secure 
hardware, so you couldn't query the MKVP of the SYM-MK nor the hash of
the 
ASYM-MK (to compare it to the MKVP/Hash patterns stored in the 
CKDS/PKDS).  I can't think of any other way to programmatically
determine 
that you're using the 'right' domain.

As Rob Schramm and Mark Zelden have pointed out domain assignments are 
something best handled by planning and coordination with the DR
provider.  If 
your DR provider gives you a system with access to only a single domain,
then 
ICSF will start just fine without the domain parm in the options data
set.  (And 
if that's how your system is configured, no changes will be required for
the DR 
site.)  If your DR provider gives you a system with multiple domains
assigned, 
then I think you would want to manually verify the domain assignment.
What 
is the likelihood that another customer is executing a DR exercise and
happens 
to use the same domain assignment that you use?  If you start ICSF
pointing 
to someone else's domain, or they start ICSF pointing to your domain, no
data 
will be compromised, but the master keys will be out of sync and you're
going 
to have to stop ICSF and correct the problem before continuing.

Unless the DR site is a hot site, you're also going to have to load your
master 
keys, so manual intervention is required after IPLing the system.
Before 
starting ICSF and the master key ceremony you should check the domain 
parms.  The domain would have to have been assigned before the IPL, and 
hopefully communicated to you.

Greg


On Tue, 20 May 2008 09:31:12 -0500, Roberto Ibarra Magdaleno 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Greg,

That's exactly what I'm looking for a way to determine the Domain
number
it must be out there since the ICSF STC when started takes it,
determines
it? if it's not coded in CSFPRMxx.

Any ideas?

Regards.

Roberto.

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Greg Boyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 sniped text


 I am not aware of a way to determine the Domain number, but its an
 interesting requirement.  I would think that selecting/assigning a
domain
 at
 the DR site would be covered in the planning phase. In most cases,
they 
can
 probably assign the domain that you want.  In the rare cases where
they
 can't (another customer who uses the same domain is performing a DR
at 
the
 same time on the same machine) then the DR provider should tell you
that
 today you're using Domain 10, and you'll have to change the Options
data
 set.  Whether the DR provider tells you, or you query the
environment,
 either
 way, you have 

Re: DASD or TAPE attached via TCP/IP

2008-05-21 Thread R.S.

Michael Knigge wrote:
Yes, it is possible, it works. Residence of emulated 3390 on PC is 
irrelevant.

It is also possible for tape ...on other systems. See iSCSI.


And how to configure on z/OS? Any hint for a manual?


The key is on other systems. iSCSI is not supported on z/OS.
So, on z/OS it is still impossible. However - in general - it is possible.

It remains me a dialog with DB2 admin:
- DB2 uses VSAM datasets, how would you imagine a database without VSAM?
- I don't know, but others imagine *and do it*. On other platforms.


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Re: DASD or TAPE attached via TCP/IP

2008-05-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 21 May 2008 15:07:23 +0200, Michael Knigge wrote:

I wonder how it is possible to attach DASD- or TAPE-Devives via TCP/IP.

Consider NFS.

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Re: plpa pages and pgser

2008-05-21 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Paul,

PLPA pages are never paged out.  If the system pages something in over a PLPA 
page, the system just marks the PLPA page as invalid, and when it is needed 
again, it is paged back in.  

Eric

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 more easier for it to be paged out?
 
 Trying to determine the reason for a problem which may be caused by such a
 PGSER FREE invocation.
 
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Re: Electronic order of PTF

2008-05-21 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Staller, Allan
 
 This is common if you are far backleveled on your maint. The 
 online order process only seems to go back one level when you 
 request pre-reqs.

When I queried their helpdesk about that, the tech said that if no
maintenance level is specified on the order, the default is to search
back 90 days.

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Re: APPC no longer support on zos/1.9

2008-05-21 Thread Chris Mason
Tommy

I suspect what the title of your post should really be is:

The APPC Application Suite is no longer supported on z/OS 1.9

You'll notice that APPC has been converted to APPC Application Suite - the 
important change, that I have improved the grammar slightly and that I have 
represented the z/OS level description a little more usually.

This is now a true statement of the support for the APPC Application Suite in 
z/OS 1.9.

Quoting from the first hit with APPC in the Communications Server SNA 
Network Implementation Guide:

quote

Deleted information

- The APPC Application Suite is removed from the z/OS V1R9 Communications 
Server product and therefore documentation describing APPC Application Suite 
support has been deleted.

/quote

Incidentally, I have every confidence that all of the programs in the APPC 
Application Suite will continue to work flawlessly as long as APPC/MVS 
continues to be supported and APPC/MVS *does* continue to be supported in 
z/OS 1.9.[1]

Thus, again with an enhancement to the grammar, perhaps your first question 
should be:

Are there any shops with a migration plan for the APPC Application Suite 
applications?

with the implied further statement:

If so, I would like to hear about such migration plans.

Perhaps - although I may be making a guess too far here - your second 
question should really be:

Are there any shops using FTP instead of AFTP, the file transfer program from 
the APPC Application Suite?

This presupposes that, since - tragically - the AnyNet Sockets over SNA 
component was withdrawn a couple of releases ago, the transport available 
between the AFTP client and AFTP server simultaneously needs to be 
converted from SNA to IP, a rather more challenging conversion I should 
imagine. Of course, the possibility exists that AFTP is already being supported 
over an IP network using Enterprise Extender.

One migration plan which suggests itself is to make sure that you make a 
copy of the libraries containing the APPC Application Suite from z/OS 1.8 - or 
whatever level of z/OS you are using currently - before overwriting with the 
upgrade to z/OS 1.9.

Chris Mason

[1] I checked. There does not appear to have been any update to the 
APPC/MVS manuals but the manuals do feature on the z/OS 1.9 bookshelves.

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Re: Hardware Alerts

2008-05-21 Thread Hal Merritt
This is an internal auditor and high availability is a high priority to
our management. 

Actually, I'm lead to believe that such email alerts are becoming a de
facto standard. Many monitors across many platforms are offering that
feature. 

We have had more than one occasion where a phone home occurred and IBM's
attempt to contact someone to coordinate repairs failed. 

More, we manage our production environment by sending emails about
exception events. We feel like it works well for us. Extending that to
hardware management is a small step. 

Right now, we feel that the known risks associated with interconnecting
these machines to the company LAN outweigh the potential benefit. But
this is all a living process and ya just gotta keep up to remain
competitive.  

My task is to explore the issue and present management with options.  

And thanks for all the replies so far!! Keep 'em coming. 

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Re: Electronic order of PTF

2008-05-21 Thread Dean Montevago
Isn't a prereq a prereq and required not matter what ?

To order a few fixes I like the SRD approach, I haven't had any problems
with it. Yes, I did have to go back and order additional fixes that were
missing but it really doesn't bother me. We upload our CSI's
preiodically so when we order maintenance to do an upgrade IBM has our
latest CSI.

When we were planning for a zIIP the PSP tool was very useful.

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Hi

If we are here:

Several times I have ordered PTF's (for example for DB2), over Internet 
with all the PREREQ's  and got several 100 Mbytes.
After I was unable to install, as some PREREQ were missing etc etc , I 
asked the IBM to help, and they provided a list
with some tool , which contained only the really necessary PREREQ's
Somebody knows about his tool ? Can we get this somehow  ?

Dean Montevago wrote:

If it's marked shipped in SRD, click on it and there will be FTP 
instructions to download it to your workstation. Do you have the rest 
of the steps to upload and unwind it ?

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My co-worker just ordered electronically a PTF. The order status shows 
it is ready.

OK. Now how do I get it?

Jerry

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SMP/E question on merging DDDEF entries.

2008-05-21 Thread Richbourg, Claude
Good morning all,

The system is z/OS 1.9 and my old nemesis SMP/E.
I am trying to build a new TARGET zone. What I want to do is copy ALL
the DDDEF information from one TARGET zone to another new TARGET zone.
At this point all I want is the DDDEF information, including the volser.

I have tried this command:
  SET BDY(MVST200) . 
  ZMRG (MVST100) 
   INTO(MVST200) 
   DEFINITION .  

And it copies everything BUT the volume information. Confused here.
I ran a list command from the old TARGET zone and have that output
including the volume information. Does someone have a REXX or utility to
take that and form it up into UCLIN statements?

Or is there a better way to copy the volume information from one zone to
another. Please let me know your ideas.

Regards,
Claude

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Re: TCPIP CONVERT GATEWAY STMT and ADD OSA

2008-05-21 Thread Melissa Perry
thanks, I'm going crazy..this should not be this hard

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Re: SMP/E question on merging DDDEF entries.

2008-05-21 Thread McKown, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richbourg, Claude
 Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 10:27 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: SMP/E question on merging DDDEF entries.
 
 Good morning all,
 
 The system is z/OS 1.9 and my old nemesis SMP/E.
 I am trying to build a new TARGET zone. What I want to do is copy ALL
 the DDDEF information from one TARGET zone to another new TARGET zone.
 At this point all I want is the DDDEF information, including 
 the volser.
 
 I have tried this command:
   SET BDY(MVST200) . 
   ZMRG (MVST100) 
INTO(MVST200) 
DEFINITION .  
 
 And it copies everything BUT the volume information. Confused here.
 I ran a list command from the old TARGET zone and have that output
 including the volume information. Does someone have a REXX or 
 utility to
 take that and form it up into UCLIN statements?
 
 Or is there a better way to copy the volume information from 
 one zone to
 another. Please let me know your ideas.
 
 Regards,
 Claude

Do an UNLOAD DDDEF.

//S1   EXEC PGM=GIMSMP,
// PARM='PROCESS=WAIT',
// DYNAMNBR=120
//*
//SMPCSI   DD DISP=SHR,DSN='SMPE18.GLOBAL.CSI'
//SMPPUNCH DD DSN=TSH009.SMPE.DDDEF.SMPE18.,
// DISP=(NEW,CATLG),SPACE=(TRK,(100,10),RLSE),
// RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=0,DSORG=PS
//*
//SMPCNTL  DD *
  SETBOUNDARY (oldtarg)
  .
  UNLOAD
 DDDEF
.
/*
//

Replace oldtarg with your source zone name. Change other DSNs as
needed. Edit output DSN if necessary. Run the step:

//S2   EXEC  PGM=GIMSMP,
// PARM='PROCESS=WAIT',
// DYNAMNBR=120
//SMPCSI   DD  DSN=SMPE18.GLOBAL.CSI,
// DISP=SHR
//*
//*
//SMPPTFIN DD  DUMMY,
// DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=32720)
//SMPHOLD  DD  DUMMY,
// DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=32720)
//SMPCNTL  DD  *
 SETBOUNDARY ( newtarg)   .
// DD DISP=SHR,DSN=TSH009.SMPE.DDDEF.SMPE18.

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Re: APPC no longer support on zos/1.9

2008-05-21 Thread Chris Mason
John

I imagine the OP must have the Communications Server SNA component (aka 
VTAM) APPC Application Suite in mind. Sometimes the list habit of condensing 
thoughts into one or two words can go too far!

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Re: APPC no longer support on zos/1.9

2008-05-21 Thread Dean Montevago
Please clarify:

This presupposes that, since - tragically - the AnyNet Sockets over SNA

component was withdrawn a couple of releases ago, the transport
available 
between the AFTP client and AFTP server simultaneously needs to be 
converted from SNA to IP, a rather more challenging conversion I should 
imagine. Of course, the possibility exists that AFTP is already being
supported 
over an IP network using Enterprise Extender.

Is this just for AFTP ? We use VTAM Anynet w/ Va-Gen now on z/OS 1.7. We
are starting a migration to 1.9 and also a migration to Rational
Business Developer 7.1. We were told that the infrastructure setup for
the Anynet that is used for Va-Gen could be used with RBD but is now
branded Enterprise Extender.

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Re: FDRABR ARCHIVE

2008-05-21 Thread Gibney, Dave
I read about FDRSEL and expect to use it. The main shortcoming
compared with HSM is not direct interface with tape management. Looks
like I'll need to parse the output and generate TMSUPDTE statements.

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 Subject: Re: FDRABR ARCHIVE
 
 Hi Dave,
 
 Regarding this:
 
 |What I don't have as yet is a useful equivalent to HSM recycle.
But
 | I'm using virtual tape with 99,999 available volumes.
 
 FDRABR provides a utility call FDRTSEL to recycle archive tapes.
 
 FDRTSEL (FDR Tape Selection Utility) can identify older tapes and
copy,
 re-stack, and consolidate tapes to new volumes.
 The FDRTSEL process will automatically update the Archive Control File
 and related catalog entries.
 FDRTSEL will retain the original dump characteristics, archive date,
 backup data set names, and expiration date.  FDRTSEL has options to
 select archive backups primarily by age, or expiration date, but it
can
 also select files by disk volume or backup volume.  Also with FDRTSEL
 you can put the output tapes under catalog control and maintain a
fixed
 expiration date in the Archive Control File.
 
 For more information, please contact Innovation Support.
 Joe Butz
 
 Gibney, Dave wrote:
 No, or I've misunderstood the FDR doc. If you specify catalog
  retention against the two TAPE DD's, FDR doesn't assign an expire
date
  to the archive dataset. The archive will exist until it is
uncataloged.
  That's why I need two archive steps. One does the NOLIMITs (that
FDRABR
  flat interprets different than HSM) and the other does all the other
  MGMTCLAS's.
 The whole backup/archive job has around 40 or 50 steps. A
combination
  of FDRREPORT, REXX, SORT, DCOLLECT, and FDRABR steps. I can't decide
if
  it's kludgy or elegant :)
 If I'm wrong, I'd like to here about it soon.
 What I don't have as yet is a useful equivalent to HSM recycle.
But
  I'm using virtual tape with 99,999 available volumes.
 
 
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On
  Behalf Of O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
  Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 9:40 PM
  To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
  Subject: Re: FDRABR ARCHIVE
 
  Dave,
 
In my shop we routinely recall datasets that were migrated 4 to
10
 
  years
 
  ago. From your post below you are arbitrarily changing your retpd
from
  NOLIMIT (or don't delete) to 1 year.
 
  Have you checked with your users? How about legal?  One would think
if
 
  the
 
  original retention was set to Nolimit then the data owner did not
want
  his/her data automatically deleted.
 
  
 
  From: Gibney, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Mon 5/19/2008 6:36 PM
  To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
  Subject: Re: FDRABR ARCHIVE
 
 
 
Sounds like Joseph is correct. I am finishing a conversion from
HSM
 
  to
 
  FDR and I found I needed two archive runs. One for MGMTCLAS with
all
  NOLIMIT (which HSM keeps forever and FDRABR keeps a year) where I
use
  catalog control of the FDRABR tape and another step for the rest of
my
  MGMTCLAS's where FDRABR pays attention to SMS rules.
 
 
 
 
 
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Bad Auditor Requests (Was Re: Hardware Alerts)

2008-05-21 Thread Thomas Kern
My favorite was an auditor that wanted a printout of our /etc/passwd. This
was a VM/SP system. When we stopped laughing at him and told him we didn't
have such security holes, he went away. 

/Tom Kern


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all the passwords for user accounts in RACF. After being told three times
that it was encrypted and not obtainable he went away muttering.

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Re: Bad Auditor Requests (Was Re: Hardware Alerts)

2008-05-21 Thread McKown, John
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 Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 10:52 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Bad Auditor Requests (Was Re: Hardware Alerts)
 
 My favorite was an auditor that wanted a printout of our 
 /etc/passwd. This
 was a VM/SP system. When we stopped laughing at him and told 
 him we didn't
 have such security holes, he went away. 
 
 /Tom Kern

What? You didn't give him your USER DIRECT?

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Re: Another Generalized Resource question

2008-05-21 Thread Rick Fochtman

snip---


I would like to be able to add profiles to the Facility class within racf such 
that the profile will be made up of three qualifiers.  The 1st two qualifiers 
will always be the same, and the 3rd will change.  I have created a profile 
that contained 3 qualifiers, with the last as DAD*.  DAD is my userid on the 
mvs system I am working on.  After defining the profile, and then executing the 
permit, and the setropts refresh, I still get non-zero return from the racroute 
request=fastauth for the entity when the 3rd qualifier in the entity is DADIVP. 
 Shouldn't DADIVP match against DAD* ?
 


-unsnip---
Tell us the entire profile name and the name you're checking it against. 
Do you have Enhanced Generics turned on? Why are you requesting 
FASTAUTH? More detail is necessary. Also, have you checked this with the 
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Re: Bad Auditor Requests (Was Re: Hardware Alerts)

2008-05-21 Thread Thomas Kern
Our instructions were to give them EXACTLY what they ask for or nothing. If
he had asked in a more general way for a listing of user definitions, I
would have prepared a sanitized USER DIRECT, but he was explicit and
insistent on getting /etc/passwd. That was what was on his unix checklist.

/Tom Kern


On Wed, 21 May 2008 10:54:49 -0500, McKown, John
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 -Original Message-

 My favorite was an auditor that wanted a printout of our
 /etc/passwd. This
 was a VM/SP system. When we stopped laughing at him and told
 him we didn't
 have such security holes, he went away.

 /Tom Kern

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Re: DASD or TAPE attached via TCP/IP

2008-05-21 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (R.S.) writes:
 The key is on other systems. iSCSI is not supported on z/OS.
 So, on z/OS it is still impossible. However - in general - it is possible.

 It remains me a dialog with DB2 admin:
 - DB2 uses VSAM datasets, how would you imagine a database without VSAM?
 - I don't know, but others imagine *and do it*. On other platforms.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#14 DASD or TAPE attached via TCP/IP

for some topic drift ... posts in a recent thread in
comp.databases.theory:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#8 pro- foreign key propaganda?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#12 pro- foreign key propaganda?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#13 pro- foreign key propaganda?

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Re: Hardware Alerts

2008-05-21 Thread Rick Fochtman

---snip---
One of my favorite requests was for a vendor doing a conversion. He 
wanted all the passwords for user accounts in RACF. After being told 
three times that it was encrypted and not obtainable he went away muttering.

---unsnip---
I would have sent his bleeding body back to the vendor in a garbage bag, 
with a demand for someone who knew what he was doing. Asking for 
passwords is ludicrous and he should have learned that early in his 
training (if he had any!) And if the vendor can't make the cut-over 
without breaching security, then it's time to find a new vendor!


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Stupid requests (was:RE: Hardware Alerts)

2008-05-21 Thread McKown, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman
 Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 11:11 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: Hardware Alerts
 
 ---snip---
 One of my favorite requests was for a vendor doing a conversion. He 
 wanted all the passwords for user accounts in RACF. After being told 
 three times that it was encrypted and not obtainable he went 
 away muttering.
 ---unsnip---
 I would have sent his bleeding body back to the vendor in a 
 garbage bag, 
 with a demand for someone who knew what he was doing. Asking for 
 passwords is ludicrous and he should have learned that early in his 
 training (if he had any!) And if the vendor can't make the cut-over 
 without breaching security, then it's time to find a new vendor!

Right up there with vendors whose products must have RACF OPERATIONS or
UNIX root authorities in order to work correctly. Of course, I don't
even like giving out APF authorization. 

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Re: plpa pages and pgser

2008-05-21 Thread Rick Fochtman

---snip-
Hello: xPLPA pages are eligible for page out (right?) So if a PGSER FREE 
is issued (preceded by a PGSER FIX) against a xPLPA page, would it make 
it any more easier for it to be paged out?


Trying to determine the reason for a problem which may be caused by such 
a PGSER FREE invocation.

---unsnip
Take the simple approach: let z/OS manage his own resources, including 
PLPA/EPLPA. z/OS will never page out PLPA/EPLPA pages; he'll just mark 
them invalid and page them in again if he needs them.


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Re: Hardware Alerts

2008-05-21 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
I do like the idea of the alert when there is a failure. Our carbon based 
life form interactive units tend to miss these things and call when it's 
too late. Case in point - POR and IPL this past weekend. Operator IPL'd 
three times, and who knows why, before calling for help at 4:30 AM.

I also understand the original poster's need at this time.

I really am not very fond of those notes that start out the auditor 
needs... when it's some BizSchool grad who don't know MOSFET from core.

But I digress.

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Re: Electronic order of PTF

2008-05-21 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 5/21/2008 10:13:15 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

followup mentions RECEIVE ORDER / RECEIVE FROMNETWORK.   Wouldn't
that be the technique with the fewest steps to receive  maintenance
electronically from IBM?



Probably, but that wasn't the  question.
 
Via the electronic profile on Service link you  can request
how, how often and level of PTFs sent. It can  be monthly PUT,
ESO, RSU or  'Tested'. 
 
I logged in after that late news last night  and IBM-main was down-sent 
Darren a note and went to bed. Don't know how long  it lasted other than it was 
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FW: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Howard Brazee
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SearchDataCenter.com: Enterprise Systems Update
May 21, 2008


 
PRACTICAL JOKES FOR MAINFRAME SYSTEMS PROGRAMMERS
http://go.techtarget.com/r/3694490/765893
Robert Crawford, Contributor

Work has gotten too serious. Between the demand for 100% availability
and the need to do more with fewer people, there is little room for
those water-cooler moments we used to enjoy. It's time to revive joy
in the workplace and build team spirit. This column suggests some
practical jokes that will engender mirth and leave everyone in
stitches.

READ THE FULL STORY
http://go.techtarget.com/r/3694491/765893

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Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Richards, Robert B.
As someone already commented on Tech Target website, these practical
jokes are neither practical nor a joke.

Bob 

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SearchDataCenter.com: Enterprise Systems Update
May 21, 2008


 
PRACTICAL JOKES FOR MAINFRAME SYSTEMS PROGRAMMERS
http://go.techtarget.com/r/3694490/765893
Robert Crawford, Contributor

Work has gotten too serious. Between the demand for 100% availability
and the need to do more with fewer people, there is little room for
those water-cooler moments we used to enjoy. It's time to revive joy
in the workplace and build team spirit. This column suggests some
practical jokes that will engender mirth and leave everyone in
stitches.

READ THE FULL STORY
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Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 21 May 2008 12:50:42 -0400, Richards, Robert B.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

As someone already commented on Tech Target website, these practical
jokes are neither practical nor a joke.


What, you don't see the humor in trying to delete SYS1.LINKLIB (don't worry,
the ENQ will protect you on this one)?   :-)

I sort of like the idea of re-mapping the keyboard for the guy in the cube
that sits next to me.

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Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Ask the person that was the object of the joke if they thought it was
funny. Hey, I like a good joke as much as the next person, but these did
not hit my funny bone for some reason.

Bob

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On Wed, 21 May 2008 12:50:42 -0400, Richards, Robert B.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

As someone already commented on Tech Target website, these practical
jokes are neither practical nor a joke.


What, you don't see the humor in trying to delete SYS1.LINKLIB (don't
worry,
the ENQ will protect you on this one)?   :-)

I sort of like the idea of re-mapping the keyboard for the guy in the
cube
that sits next to me.

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TechTarget - Mainframe Specialty Processors (zIIP zAAP)

2008-05-21 Thread Lizette Koehler
Mainframe specialty processors: Do they really save money?

http://serverspecs.blogs.techtarget.com/2008/05/20/mainframe-specialty-processors-do-they-really-save-money/?track=NL-576ad=641476asrc=EM_NLN_3694452uid=1706837

or tinyurl
http://tinyurl.com/5epy38



was a little more interesting than the Practical Joke article.


Lizette

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Re: Another Generalized Resource question

2008-05-21 Thread Walt Farrell
On Wed, 21 May 2008 10:55:11 -0500, Rick Fochtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Tell us the entire profile name and the name you're checking it against.
Do you have Enhanced Generics turned on? Why are you requesting
FASTAUTH? More detail is necessary. Also, have you checked this with the
RACF-List folks?

One comment: Enhanced Generics are irrelevant here.  That option applies
only to DATASET profiles, and has no effect on the characters you can use in
general resource profiles.  For general resource you can always use either *
or **, depending on what you want to match.

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Re: SMP/E question on merging DDDEF entries.

2008-05-21 Thread Richbourg, Claude
John,

Thank you very much as it worked great. My nemesis grows weaker..

Regards,
Claude


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Subject: Re: SMP/E question on merging DDDEF entries.
-snip-
Do an UNLOAD DDDEF.

//S1   EXEC PGM=GIMSMP,
// PARM='PROCESS=WAIT',
// DYNAMNBR=120
//*
//SMPCSI   DD DISP=SHR,DSN='SMPE18.GLOBAL.CSI'
//SMPPUNCH DD DSN=TSH009.SMPE.DDDEF.SMPE18.,
// DISP=(NEW,CATLG),SPACE=(TRK,(100,10),RLSE),
// RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=0,DSORG=PS
//*
//SMPCNTL  DD *
  SETBOUNDARY (oldtarg)
  .
  UNLOAD
 DDDEF
.
/*
//

Replace oldtarg with your source zone name. Change other DSNs as
needed. Edit output DSN if necessary. Run the step:

//S2   EXEC  PGM=GIMSMP,
// PARM='PROCESS=WAIT',
// DYNAMNBR=120
//SMPCSI   DD  DSN=SMPE18.GLOBAL.CSI,
// DISP=SHR
//*
//*
//SMPPTFIN DD  DUMMY,
// DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=32720)
//SMPHOLD  DD  DUMMY,
// DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=32720)
//SMPCNTL  DD  *
 SETBOUNDARY ( newtarg)   .
// DD DISP=SHR,DSN=TSH009.SMPE.DDDEF.SMPE18.

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Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Rob Scott
I worked at a site once (many) years ago where some bright spark once wrote a 
program called IJKEFT01 whose sole purpose in life was to just ATTACH 
IKJEFT01 *unless* it was the target userid in which case it also ATTACHed an 
extra TCB that randomly generated strange abends at random intervals.

Cue frantic hunting through manuals and head scratching of the affected user.

Made me smile.


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Rocket Software, Inc
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Richards, Robert B. wrote:
 As someone already commented on Tech Target website, these practical
 jokes are neither practical nor a joke.


Jokes or not, I was ROTFLMAO! And, based on the first comment posted, I guess 
that means I should be locked up! :-D

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Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Richards, Robert B.
I smiled when I read them, but then the adult inside me kicked in his
two cents and decided that to actually do these jokes would not be
funny.  

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Richards, Robert B. wrote:
 As someone already commented on Tech Target website, these practical
 jokes are neither practical nor a joke.
   

Jokes or not, I was ROTFLMAO! And, based on the first comment posted, I 
guess that means I should be locked up! :-D

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Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread McKown, John
Well, other than the 3270 remapping, the rest can result in severe
problems and possible termination. The last, reinitializing a DBMS
volume actually happened to me. Well, it was a DB2 system (not data)
volume which somehow got the CA-1 TMC allocated on it. The DBA backed up
the volume, made some changes, and then restored it. This wiped out a
lot of TMC updates. Luckily, we detected this early and recovered from
the AUDIT.

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Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 21 May 2008 13:06:04 -0400 Richards, Robert B.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

:Ask the person that was the object of the joke if they thought it was
:funny. Hey, I like a good joke as much as the next person, but these did
:not hit my funny bone for some reason.

He should have password protected his session.

Very bad idea to walk away while remaining signed on.

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:Behalf Of Mark Zelden
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:To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
:Subject: Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

:On Wed, 21 May 2008 12:50:42 -0400, Richards, Robert B.
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

:As someone already commented on Tech Target website, these practical
:jokes are neither practical nor a joke.

:What, you don't see the humor in trying to delete SYS1.LINKLIB (don't
:worry,
:the ENQ will protect you on this one)?   :-)

:I sort of like the idea of re-mapping the keyboard for the guy in the
:cube
:that sits next to me.

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Re: Another Generalized Resource question

2008-05-21 Thread Rick Fochtman

---snip---


Tell us the entire profile name and the name you're checking it against.
Do you have Enhanced Generics turned on? Why are you requesting
FASTAUTH? More detail is necessary. Also, have you checked this with the
RACF-List folks?
   



One comment: Enhanced Generics are irrelevant here.  That option applies
only to DATASET profiles, and has no effect on the characters you can use in
general resource profiles.  For general resource you can always use either *
or **, depending on what you want to match.
 


--unsnip-
Correct me if I'm wrong. I understood that a single trailing * meant 
exactly one qualifier, whereas a trailing ** meant any number of 
qualifiers.



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Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
I had to ask myself it they were a potential CLM. (career limiting move) 



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Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B.
 
 As someone already commented on Tech Target website, these 
 practical jokes are neither practical nor a joke.

Indeed.  Remapping somebody's keyboard might be harmless enough, but
from there the jokes descend to real and serious crime.

-jc-

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Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Gary Green
Now THAT is funny...


 On Wed May 21 13:16 , Rob Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:

I worked at a site once (many) years ago where some bright spark once wrote a 
program called IJKEFT01 whose sole purpose in life was to just ATTACH 
IKJEFT01 *unless* it was the target userid in which case it also ATTACHed an 
extra TCB that randomly generated strange abends at random intervals.

Cue frantic hunting through manuals and head scratching of the affected user.

Made me smile.


Rob Scott
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Richards, Robert B. wrote:
 As someone already commented on Tech Target website, these practical
 jokes are neither practical nor a joke.


Jokes or not, I was ROTFLMAO! And, based on the first comment posted, I guess 
that means I should be locked up! :-D

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ADD library to Linklst

2008-05-21 Thread Lucy Arnold
Hello,

I am upgrading EZTRIEVE and am trying to add a PDSE to LNKLST00:

We went into TMON and added the new PDSE and removed the old PDS.  We
refreshed LLA.  If jobs use a STEPLIB/JCLLIB pointing to new library(PDSE)
all works well, if we let it find modules through LNKLST then jobs abend
with a S0C4 -

Does anybody know how to add a PDSE to LNKLST on the fly???  We did try
some of the SETPROG ZOS commands but never could seem to get the syntax
correct

Thanks!

Lucy Arnold
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Re: ADD library to Linklst

2008-05-21 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
In your PARMLIB create:

 BROWSESYS1.TEST.ZOS17.PARMLIB(PROGDM) - 01.01Line  Col 
001 080
 Command ===  Scroll === 
CSR 
* Top of Data 
*
LNKLST  DEFINE   NAME(LNKLSTAA) COPYFROM(CURRENT)  
LNKLST ADD NAME(LNKLSTAA) DSN(SYS4.FA.V8R8M2.LOAD)  
   VOLUME(O2A010)  
LNKLST  ACTIVATE NAME(LNKLSTAA)  

a member that looks like this. Then on the console SET PROG=DM (for my 
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 I am upgrading EZTRIEVE and am trying to add a PDSE to LNKLST00:
 
 We went into TMON and added the new PDSE and removed the old PDS.  We
 refreshed LLA.  If jobs use a STEPLIB/JCLLIB pointing to new 
library(PDSE)
 all works well, if we let it find modules through LNKLST then jobs abend
 with a S0C4 -
 
 Does anybody know how to add a PDSE to LNKLST on the fly???  We did try
 some of the SETPROG ZOS commands but never could seem to get the syntax
 correct
 
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 Storage Manager
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Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Edward Jaffe

Rob Scott wrote:

I worked at a site once (many) years ago where some bright spark once wrote a program called 
IJKEFT01 whose sole purpose in life was to just ATTACH IKJEFT01 *unless* it was the 
target userid in which case it also ATTACHed an extra TCB that randomly generated 
strange abends at random intervals.
  


In school, *someone* wrote a program called FUN that simulated the 
command prompt of the interactive system we used. FUN was a simple 
program that waited for some input from the user, wrote an exact replica 
of the message that would appear when an unrecognized command was issued 
(similar to IKJ56500I COMMAND x NOT FOUND in TSO/E), and then 
re-issued the prompt and looped back to wait for more input. Watching 
people's reactions, while FUN was running, was FUN! :-D


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FTP delete

2008-05-21 Thread Howard Brazee
 

I have the following commands in my FTP:

 

cd /ftp/SISR/RECREG  

delete person

put 'UMSDEV.CONV.QA04.NPRSMED' person

 

If person does not exist, the FTP aborts, but the new file is out
there anyway.

 

I'm running IKJEFT01 from within a standard proc.

 

Is there a cleaner way to replace the file?


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Re: Display or view the Crypto Current domain index or Usage domain index

2008-05-21 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 20 May 2008 16:45:07 -0400, Rob Schramm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I am guessing that it is in a control block done at IPL time at least for
z9 and below or one of the instructions that are ICSF/Crypto specific that
are not documented for the public domain.


My guess was a diagnose instruction.  

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Re: FTP delete

2008-05-21 Thread McKown, John
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 I have the following commands in my FTP:
 
 cd /ftp/SISR/RECREG  
 delete person
 put 'UMSDEV.CONV.QA04.NPRSMED' person
 
 If person does not exist, the FTP aborts, but the new file is out
 there anyway.
 
 I'm running IKJEFT01 from within a standard proc.
 
 Is there a cleaner way to replace the file?

Don't bother with the delete. The put will replace it if it exists
or create it if it does not already exist. 

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Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Gary Green
Ah..., someone, huh...? ;-)


 On Wed May 21 11:00 , Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:

Rob Scott wrote:
 I worked at a site once (many) years ago where some bright spark once wrote 
 a program called IJKEFT01 whose sole purpose in life was to just ATTACH 
 IKJEFT01 *unless* it was the target userid in which case it also ATTACHed 
 an extra TCB that randomly generated strange abends at random intervals.
   

In school, *someone* wrote a program called FUN that simulated the 
command prompt of the interactive system we used. FUN was a simple 
program that waited for some input from the user, wrote an exact replica 
of the message that would appear when an unrecognized command was issued 
(similar to IKJ56500I COMMAND x NOT FOUND in TSO/E), and then 
re-issued the prompt and looped back to wait for more input. Watching 
people's reactions, while FUN was running, was FUN! :-D

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Re: ADD library to Linklst

2008-05-21 Thread Lizette Koehler
Replacing a library in the LNKLSTxx is more complicated than just adding one.

TMON replaces the library at the bottom of the list which may explain your 0C4s.

To remove/add a library you do the following (IIRC)

1)  Create a new LNKLSTxx from the currently active one
2)  Using the z/OS Commands update the new list with the library,
3)  Activate the new library.

When you activate the new library, if anything still is using the old LNKLSTxx 
list, then it will still use that list.

My preference would be to steplib until you can IPL in a new version of 
LNKLSTxx.


Lizette
 

I am upgrading EZTRIEVE and am trying to add a PDSE to LNKLST00:

We went into TMON and added the new PDSE and removed the old PDS.  We
refreshed LLA.  If jobs use a STEPLIB/JCLLIB pointing to new library(PDSE)
all works well, if we let it find modules through LNKLST then jobs abend
with a S0C4 -

Does anybody know how to add a PDSE to LNKLST on the fly???  We did try
some of the SETPROG ZOS commands but never could seem to get the syntax
correct


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IPCS RUNARRAY/CBFORMAT question

2008-05-21 Thread Gord Tomlin
Apparently I'm a bit thick today, but I cannot seem to get the results I 
want from the IPCS RUNARRAY subcommand when combined with the CBFORMAT 
command.


I have an array of control blocks in a dump, and I want to use a format 
model to display each element of the array. In a simple example, each 
element is x'19' bytes long and there are four elements. I entered the 
following command:


runarray address(2a401b00.) length(25) entries(1:4) structure
exec((cbf x model(format-model-name)))

Instead of seeing each of the four elements formatted, I see all but the 
first element truncated with zeroes replacing the data that actually resides 
at the storage locations:


LIST 2A401B00. ASID(X'00BA') LENGTH(X'19') ENTRY(X'+01') STRUCTURE
:2A401B00
   +  ENTRYFLG. 00NAME.   # 0001 
CPUTOT...   Z#...   ZCPUTOT.. 


LIST 2A401B00. ASID(X'00BA') POSITION(X'+19') LENGTH(X'19') ENTRY(X'+02') 
STRUCTURE

:2A401B00
   +  ENTRYFLG. 00NAME.   #  
CPUTOT...   Z#...   ZCPUTOT.. 

Control block is truncated

LIST 2A401B00. ASID(X'00BA') POSITION(X'+32') LENGTH(X'19') ENTRY(X'+03') 
STRUCTURE

:2A401B00
   +  ENTRYFLG. 00NAME.   #  
CPUTOT...   Z#...   ZCPUTOT.. 

Control block is truncated

LIST 2A401B00. ASID(X'00BA') POSITION(X'+4B') LENGTH(X'19') ENTRY(X'+04') 
STRUCTURE

:2A401B00
   +  ENTRYFLG. 00NAME.   #  
CPUTOT...   Z#...   ZCPUTOT.. 

Control block is truncated

The actual storage is as follows:
2A401B00. 00404040 40404040 4000 0100     

2A401B20.  0001    005C E4D5D2D5 D6E6D500 

2A401B40.    D4E9F1C3  E2C3C8F7 0001 0102 


2A401B60. 0102

Any suggestions as to how to get CBFORMAT to use the intended length for 
each array element?


Thanks! 


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Re: FTP delete

2008-05-21 Thread McKown, John
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 I use  (replace  at the end of the put command to overwrite 
 the file.
 
When going to the open system servers (Windows, Linux, AIX), we never
do that. Actually in the IBM manual for ftp commands, it only lists
(replace for the GET, MGET, and REPLACE commands, not the PUT command.

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Re: ADD library to Linklst

2008-05-21 Thread Jerry Fuchs
I have used TMON to delete and add a library to the link list.

As we run PDSMAN must stop PDSMAN, refresh LLA, and start PDSMAN.

Jerry 



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In your PARMLIB create:

 BROWSESYS1.TEST.ZOS17.PARMLIB(PROGDM) - 01.01Line  Col 
001 080
 Command ===  Scroll === 

CSR 
* Top of Data 
*
LNKLST  DEFINE   NAME(LNKLSTAA) COPYFROM(CURRENT) 
LNKLST ADD NAME(LNKLSTAA) DSN(SYS4.FA.V8R8M2.LOAD) 
   VOLUME(O2A010) 
LNKLST  ACTIVATE NAME(LNKLSTAA) 

a member that looks like this. Then on the console SET PROG=DM (for my 
example).

Daniel McLaughlin 
Z-Series Systems Programmer
Information  Communications Technology
Crawford  Company
4680 N. Royal Atlanta
Tucker GA 30084 
phone: 770-621-3256 
fax: 770-621-3237
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 Hello,
 
 I am upgrading EZTRIEVE and am trying to add a PDSE to LNKLST00:
 
 We went into TMON and added the new PDSE and removed the old PDS.  We
 refreshed LLA.  If jobs use a STEPLIB/JCLLIB pointing to new 
library(PDSE)
 all works well, if we let it find modules through LNKLST then jobs abend
 with a S0C4 -
 
 Does anybody know how to add a PDSE to LNKLST on the fly???  We did try
 some of the SETPROG ZOS commands but never could seem to get the syntax
 correct
 
 Thanks!
 
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 Storage Manager
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 916-734-5498
 
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Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
  On Wed May 21 11:00 , Edward Jaffe sent:
 
 Rob Scott wrote:
  I worked at a site once (many) years ago where some bright 
 spark once wrote a program called IJKEFT01 whose sole 
 purpose in life was to just ATTACH IKJEFT01 *unless* it was 
 the target userid in which case it also ATTACHed an extra 
 TCB that randomly generated strange abends at random intervals.

 
 In school, *someone* wrote a program called FUN that simulated the 
 command prompt of the interactive system we used. FUN was a simple 
 program that waited for some input from the user, wrote an exact 
 replica of the message that would appear when an 
 unrecognized command 
 was issued (similar to IKJ56500I COMMAND x NOT FOUND in 
 TSO/E), and 
 then re-issued the prompt and looped back to wait for more input. 
 Watching people's reactions, while FUN was running, was FUN! :-D

Was someone's initials E. E. J. ?

-jc-

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Re: ADD library to Linklst

2008-05-21 Thread Lizette Koehler
my preference, is to do testing with steplib/joblib first.  If everything looks 
go, then I empty teh LNKLST'd data set, load it with the new code, then LLA 
Refresh or LLA UPDATE, depending.

I do not like adding libraries to the Lnklst.  It can add to confusion if 
someone else works on a problem and did not know I did that.

As for PDSMAN, it can automatically pick up a Lnklst change and do the LLA 
without Stopping PDSMAN.

Lizette


I have used TMON to delete and add a library to the link list.

As we run PDSMAN must stop PDSMAN, refresh LLA, and start PDSMAN.



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Re: TechTarget - Mainframe Specialty Processors (zIIP zAAP)

2008-05-21 Thread Edward Jaffe

Lizette Koehler wrote:

Mainframe specialty processors: Do they really save money?

http://serverspecs.blogs.techtarget.com/2008/05/20/mainframe-specialty-processors-do-they-really-save-money/?track=NL-576ad=641476asrc=EM_NLN_3694452uid=1706837
  


Very strange. From where I sit, it seems like specialty engines are 
going supernova. The tenor of the article seems to suggest otherwise.


For example, Mr Fontecchio says, Selling rhe zAAP for Java and the zIIP 
for data applications hasn't been easy. In fact, IBM says specialty 
engine sales are up 85% year-over-year. I honestly don't know how easy 
the sales effort was, but that's pretty impressive growth -- no matter 
what business you're in!


A quote from Trevor Eddolls seems to suggest that there isn't much 
software exploitation. It seems to me that zAAP exploitation by Java and 
XML, and zIIP exploitation by DB2 and IPSEC, is dependent on what 
applications the customer deploys on z. I'm certainly no expert on what 
other software companies are doing. But, I *do* know what my friend Tom 
Harper has been up to at Neon Enterprise Software. Rather than just ... 
looking to offer customers the opportunity of running their software on 
zIIP ..., as indicated by the article, they are actually doing it. 
SyncSort wasn't mentioned. But, I know it has been supporting zIIP since 
January, a number of CA utilities have been supporting zIIP since 
mid-2007, and all of the internally-developed products here at Phoenix 
Software -- including (E)JES -- have been redirecting *significant* 
portions of their work to zIIP since October 2007. (We're trying to do 
our part.)


There are likely numerous other ISVs doing this [I don't mean to 
purposely leave anyone out -- please post a follow-up to list additional 
examples] and, considering the zIIP-redirect interface was only made 
available to ISVs around year-end 2006, I would call this fairly 
significant exploitation -- with much more on the way...


The article is correct in its assertion that specialty engine savings 
take time to accumulate. No question about that. You need to first buy 
the zIIP or zAAP and then incrementally save over time on software 
charges. It's kinda' like buying a new, more fuel-efficient, car to save 
money on gas. It will take you quite a while to break even.


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Re: FTP delete

2008-05-21 Thread Matthew Stitt
I use  (replace  at the end of the put command to overwrite the file.

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Brazee
 Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 1:02 PM
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 Subject: FTP delete

 I have the following commands in my FTP:

 cd /ftp/SISR/RECREG
 delete person
 put 'UMSDEV.CONV.QA04.NPRSMED' person

 If person does not exist, the FTP aborts, but the new file is out
 there anyway.

 I'm running IKJEFT01 from within a standard proc.

 Is there a cleaner way to replace the file?

Don't bother with the delete. The put will replace it if it exists
or create it if it does not already exist.

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John McKown

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Re: USSTAB color question

2008-05-21 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 20 May 2008 12:40:24 -0700, Edward Jaffe 
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...
Modern (emulated) 3270 devices generally tell the PLU that they can
handle extended color orders via the response to Read-Partition 
Query.
That tells the PLU such orders will not be rejected by the SLU.

I do not believe the SLU will ever reject an attribute with extended
color prior to the query exchange. The device accepts what it accepts 
at
all times. The query response simply tells the host side that it's OK to
send such orders.
...

True, but at the time USS messages and commands are processed 
there IS no PLU; all this is taking place on the SSCP-LU session.   
(Ok.  You could be sending a LOGOFF cmd on the SSCP-LU session
to break an existing LU-LU session, but no message is involved.)

I'm pretty sure VTAM never issues a QUERY on the SSCP-LU session,
and it's even less likely that a Tn3270 server does that on its 
emulated SSCP-LU session.

I think that doesn't change anything you said, but I also think 
that you're outside of any standards if you use extended data
streams for USS datam

Pat O'Keefe

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Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Don Leahy

 Was someone's initials E. E. J. ?


Another 'someone' once wrote a clist that displayed an exact replica
of the TSO logon screen that was in use at the time.

The clist was named after a commonly used local function, so when the
poor victim used it, he would think that he'd been booted off the
system.   He'd scratch his head, and try to log on again, but the
logon screen would ignore his password.   It was programmed to
unlock itself after about 10 attempts.

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Re: APPC no longer support on zos/1.9

2008-05-21 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 21 May 2008 14:29:03 +0800, Tommy Tsui 
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hi,

any shop have migration plan on APPC application ? or use FTP 
instead of
APPC?
...

We are still on 1.8 so I can't validate what I'm about to say, but 
from the clarifications I've heard, IBM is NOT dropping support 
for APPC.  It is dropping support for the sample APPC Application 
Suite that used to be shipped with VTAM:  A3270, AFTP, etc.   As
far as I know, the APPC and ASCH address spaces, and the various
APPC and CPI-C tools and APIs are still going to be available.

If this is NOT the case I'd definitely like to be corrected because we
too will have to migrating to do.

Pat O'Keefe

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