Re: CF structure management - Understanding
"Cwi Jeret" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > Hello Forum, > > Yesteday, due to a failing receiver from MQ we got an overflow > of the MQ Structure holding the Queue of CAQMCSQMSTR1. > > We saw in RMF3 the following for Structure CAQMCSQMSTR1 : > > --- > > RMF V1R7 CF Activity - SYSPLEX1 Line 1 of 54 > Command ===> Scroll ===> CSR > > Samples: 100 Systems: 4Date: 07/09/08 Time: 07.30.00 Range: 100 > Sec > > CF: ALL Type ST System CF --- Sync --- - Async >Util Rate AvgRate Avg Chng Del > Structure Name %Serv Serv % % > > CSQMCSQ_ADMINLIST AP *ALL 4.00.8250 161.6340 0.0 0.0 > LIST AS *ALL 3.70.8199 144.5292 0.0 0.0 > CSQMCSQMSTR1 LIST AP *ALL 93.4 11.1344 2538443 0.0 > 0.0 <= !!! > LIST AS *ALL 88.5 10.9289 2504383 0.0 0.0 > <= !!! > DFHCFLS_SYSTCFD1 LIST AP *ALL 0.00.0 00.0 0 0.0 0.0 > LIST AS *ALL 0.00.0 00.0 0 0.0 0.0 > DFHCFLS_TESTCFD1 LIST AP *ALL 0.00.0 00.0 0 0.0 0.0 > LIST AS *ALL 0.00.0 00.0 0 0.0 0.0 > DFHNCLS_PRODNC1 LIST AP *ALL 0.00.0 00.0 0 0.0 0.0 > > -- > > As the setup of this structure is as follows : > > -- > > D XCF,STR,STRNM=CSQMCSQMSTR1 > IXC360I 10.17.45 DISPLAY XCF 868 > STRNAME: CSQMCSQMSTR1 > STATUS: REASON SPECIFIED WITH REBUILD START: > POLICY-INITIATED > DUPLEXING REBUILD > METHOD: SYSTEM-MANAGED > AUTO VERSION: C290641A A8810B03 > REBUILD PHASE: DUPLEX ESTABLISHED > TYPE: SERIALIZED LIST > POLICY INFORMATION: >POLICY SIZE: 524288 K >POLICY INITSIZE: 272144 K >POLICY MINSIZE : 0 K >FULLTHRESHOLD : 85<<< !!! >ALLOWAUTOALT : NO >REBUILD PERCENT: N/A >DUPLEX : ENABLED >ALLOWREALLOCATE: YES >PREFERENCE LIST: CF1 CF3 >ENFORCEORDER : NO >EXCLUSION LIST IS EMPTY > > DUPLEXING REBUILD NEW STRUCTURE > > > I cannot understand why we don't get any IXC585E message, > which should have been issued in order to warn us that we have > passed the 85% of Fullthreshold. (93.4% and 88.5% - See RMF3 report) > > Any Idea ? ... > > Cwi Jeret > One reason could be that Structure Full Monitoring is running at regular times (I believe minutes). So the structure could have gone from below 85% to 100% within one monitoring period. Kees. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM using more below the line storage.
"Ted MacNEIL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<715260175-1215667394-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-5043 [EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > Roland, I hate to say this, maybe I'm not clear, but what are you saying? > > > > >our private size on z/OS R9 below is > (MXI VMAP command, IPLINFO from Mark Zelden provide the same info) > > I think he tries to put your attention to the Private line: Private 6000 009F10216K < So, 10 MB. Kees. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CF structure management - Understanding
Cwi, what makes you think that the structure was filled 85% The number you point to (the report is completely unreadable to me, even after reformatting to a fixed-font) is the number right after *ALL in the CF activity report, right? That would be %CF Util. Take a look at the RMF help panel. This %CF UTIL shows you CF CPU utilization, NOT structure utilization. The only way to see the *actual* usage of the structure (which changes from moment to moment) that readily comes to my mind is the D XCF,STR,STRNM=structure_name command. This has these lines: ENTRIES: IN-USE: 1 TOTAL:320, 0% FULL ELEMENTS: IN-USE: 16 TOTAL:305, 5% FULL All of the above for z/OS 1.8 and a cf with CFCC level15. So to answer your question: You did not get ixc585e because the structure wasn't filled up to 85%. Regards, Barbara Nitz -- GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen Interessen! Jetzt dabei sein: http://www.shortview.de/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: User/Ref Manual for CSS
Thanks Greg! I am planning to list down the summary of all the abends captured in Abend- aid during a particular time period. Using the first JCL you have provided , I tried to list down the abends with PRINT PROGRAM=*. However this is listing the detailed report for each abend. Do you know the ABNLPARM to list down only the summary details..? Thanks, Shaja -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
CF structure management - Understanding
Hello Forum, Yesteday, due to a failing receiver from MQ we got an overflow of the MQ Structure holding the Queue of CAQMCSQMSTR1. We saw in RMF3 the following for Structure CAQMCSQMSTR1 : --- RMF V1R7 CF Activity - SYSPLEX1 Line 1 of 54 Command ===> Scroll ===> CSR Samples: 100 Systems: 4Date: 07/09/08 Time: 07.30.00 Range: 100 Sec CF: ALL Type ST System CF --- Sync --- - Async Util Rate AvgRate Avg Chng Del Structure Name %Serv Serv % % CSQMCSQ_ADMINLIST AP *ALL 4.00.8250 161.6340 0.0 0.0 LIST AS *ALL 3.70.8199 144.5292 0.0 0.0 CSQMCSQMSTR1 LIST AP *ALL 93.4 11.1344 2538443 0.0 0.0 <= !!! LIST AS *ALL 88.5 10.9289 2504383 0.0 0.0 <= !!! DFHCFLS_SYSTCFD1 LIST AP *ALL 0.00.0 00.0 0 0.0 0.0 LIST AS *ALL 0.00.0 00.0 0 0.0 0.0 DFHCFLS_TESTCFD1 LIST AP *ALL 0.00.0 00.0 0 0.0 0.0 LIST AS *ALL 0.00.0 00.0 0 0.0 0.0 DFHNCLS_PRODNC1 LIST AP *ALL 0.00.0 00.0 0 0.0 0.0 -- As the setup of this structure is as follows : -- D XCF,STR,STRNM=CSQMCSQMSTR1 IXC360I 10.17.45 DISPLAY XCF 868 STRNAME: CSQMCSQMSTR1 STATUS: REASON SPECIFIED WITH REBUILD START: POLICY-INITIATED DUPLEXING REBUILD METHOD: SYSTEM-MANAGED AUTO VERSION: C290641A A8810B03 REBUILD PHASE: DUPLEX ESTABLISHED TYPE: SERIALIZED LIST POLICY INFORMATION: POLICY SIZE: 524288 K POLICY INITSIZE: 272144 K POLICY MINSIZE : 0 K FULLTHRESHOLD : 85<<< !!! ALLOWAUTOALT : NO REBUILD PERCENT: N/A DUPLEX : ENABLED ALLOWREALLOCATE: YES PREFERENCE LIST: CF1 CF3 ENFORCEORDER : NO EXCLUSION LIST IS EMPTY DUPLEXING REBUILD NEW STRUCTURE I cannot understand why we don't get any IXC585E message, which should have been issued in order to warn us that we have passed the 85% of Fullthreshold. (93.4% and 88.5% - See RMF3 report) Any Idea ? ... Cwi Jeret Bank Poalim T.A. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM using more below the line storage.
Roland, I hate to say this, maybe I'm not clear, but what are you saying? >our private size on z/OS R9 below is (MXI VMAP command, IPLINFO from Mark Zelden provide the same info) - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Can STGINDEX have secondary allocations?
Hi listers , Can SYS1.STGINDEX (VIO journaling) have secondary allocations? Jan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM using more below the line storage.
John, our private size on z/OS R9 below is (MXI VMAP command, IPLINFO from Mark Zelden provide the same info) Area Start EndSize(K) Extended Private 2DF0 7FFF 1344512K Extended CSA 0C4F6000 2DEF 550952K Extended MLPA 0C1F8000 0C4F5FFF 3064K Extended FLPA 0K Extended PLPA 07576000 0C1F7FFF78344K Extended SQA 019BF000 07575FFF93916K Extended R/W Nuc 01946000 019BEFFF 484K Extended R/O Nuc 0100 0194568F 9493K R/O Nuc 00FE4000 00FF 112K R/W Nuc 00FD7000 00FE36B7 49K SQA 00E3D000 00FD6FFF 1640K PLPA 00C5E000 00E3CFFF 1916K FLPA 0K MLPA 00C3F000 00C5DFFF 124K CSA 00A0 00C3EFFF 2300K Private 6000 009F10216K< V=R 6000 00025FFF 128K System2000 5FFF 16K PSA 1FFF8K Unfortunally no more z/OS R7 Roland >IBM appears to be expanding use of storage below the 16M line, >rather than converting their own code to 31-bit addressability. Here is >the reply I received when I ETR asked CICS why I could no longer get a >certain DSALIM value in TS22 after going to zos 1.08. >"There is Common Storage shared by all address spaces, and not >considered >part of the private storage available for address space (task) use. >In OS/390 2.10 the amount of Common Storage needed by the system was >smaller than is required by z/os 1.8, which has much more function. >When Common Storage increases, the amount of private storage decreases. >My guess, based on my years of experience is that in your 2.10 system >the amount of private storage available was 10M or possibly 11M. It >must be on a meg boundry. In z/os 1.8 the amount of storage available >for CICS , or any other address space has shrunk to 9M based on the >increase in Common Storage." >It appears to me that IBM is assuming that the below the line >storage is now free and available for their use, and rather than going to >31-bit addressing themselves, they are expanding use of 24-bit. >Interesting. Looks like a bit of "do as I say, not as I do." -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM using more below the line storage
>The original poster said "In OS/390 2.10 the amount of Common Storage needed >by the system was smaller than is required by z/os 1.8", to me implying that there was a migration over 8 MVS releases!!! I really don't understand your response! Yes, so there was a migration -- so what? The below should not have increased. So, this part I do NOT understand. IBM should not be eating any more below the line. >In addition, a 10M private region is HUGE! Is it? - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM using more below the line storage
?? The original poster said "In OS/390 2.10 the amount of Common Storage needed by the system was smaller than is required by z/os 1.8", to me implying that there was a migration over 8 MVS releases!!! In addition, a 10M private region is HUGE! If my assumption on migrating from 2.10 to 1.8 is true, health checker won't do a thing for you, as that only works from 1.4 upwards (*if* you had it installed there, and the mentioned VSM check came with 1.6, I think). In this case, I am 100% with Sam: IBM really is attempting to do VSCR. And has been for a long time, keeping in mind that the 30-year-old application that had never yet heard of 24bit are not allowed to break! >It sounds like time for a requirement that all 24 bit modules be >converted to 31 bit for instructions and maybe start the conversion to >64 bit. Another guess of mine: This will never get accepted by IBM as a requirement, for obvious downward compatibility reasons. Regards, Barbara Nitz -- Pt! Schon das coole Video vom GMX MultiMessenger gesehen? Der Eine für Alle: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/messenger03 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Re: IBM using more below the line storage.
On 9 Jul 2008 14:49:57 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >IBM appears to be expanding use of storage below the 16M line, >rather than converting their own code to 31-bit addressability. Here is >the reply I received when I ETR asked CICS why I could no longer get a >certain DSALIM value in TS22 after going to zos 1.08. >"There is Common Storage shared by all address spaces, and not >considered >part of the private storage available for address space (task) use. >In OS/390 2.10 the amount of Common Storage needed by the system was >smaller than is required by z/os 1.8, which has much more function. >When Common Storage increases, the amount of private storage decreases. >My guess, based on my years of experience is that in your 2.10 system >the amount of private storage available was 10M or possibly 11M. It >must be on a meg boundry. In z/os 1.8 the amount of storage available >for CICS , or any other address space has shrunk to 9M based on the >increase in Common Storage." >It appears to me that IBM is assuming that the below the line >storage is now free and available for their use, and rather than going to >31-bit addressing themselves, they are expanding use of 24-bit. >Interesting. Looks like a bit of "do as I say, not as I do." It sounds like time for a requirement that all 24 bit modules be converted to 31 bit for instructions and maybe start the conversion to 64 bit. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SFTP GET COMMAND QUESTION
If the Linux FTP server is vsftpd, it may be running without the "ascii_download_enable=YES" configuration option. If that is true, the server will use binary transfer mode even when the client requests ASCII, and you will see a message like "150 Opening BINARY mode data connection" after your GET. Some ftp clients will handle it, and print warning messages like "bare linefeeds received in ASCII mode", and "File may not have transferred correctly" but I'm not sure how the z/OS client would react. Bill On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 17:11:22 -0500, Yukus, Mary J wrote: >No, it was binary from UNIX to LINUX by default during the SFTP process, but >then it is using FTP to get it from LINUX to z/OS which the default is ASCII. > >-Original Message- >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >Of Richard Peurifoy >Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 4:05 PM >To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU >Subject: Re: SFTP GET COMMAND QUESTION > >Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM wrote: >> I'm not sure about hex, but when you look at it in Octal (in Linux), on >FTP'd >> file there is a \r (or CR value) followed by a \n (or LF value). On the >> SFTP'd file, there is only a \n (LF value). That is where it gets lost. >The >> \n is supposed to be the LF but when it gets passed to z/OS, z/OS doesn't >> seem to recognize it and continues on with one long line. That is what I >was >> wondering is if somewhere in the z/OS GET command you have to tell it to >use >> LF and not CR. Is this where the TR command fits in or is there another >way? >> >> Right now the only other idea is to add the CR value back into the file, >but >> I don't like the idea of modifying a production file by adding in the >> character. >> >> Thanks, >> Mary > >Mary, > >Is the FTP GET from z/OS binary? > >If it is binary, the LF would not be used to break >the file into lines. > >-- >Richard > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM using more below the line storage.
Hi John,
If your below the line private area decreased it I will step out on a
limb and say no one is monitoring and managing it. We have been able to
grow PVT from a standard 9M to 10M and EPVT as well in the last few
years. IBM is doing good work in the area of Virtual Storage Constraint
Relief (VSCR). The MVS/SCP Project at SHARE engages with IBM on this
topic. A very recent presentation from SHARE in Orlando on IBM's
current VSCR accomplishments and plans is here
http://ew.share.org/client_files/callpapers/attach/SHARE_in_Orlando/S281
8ET101935.pdf
2818 - Common Storage Virtual Storage Constraint Relief (VSCR)
Program: MVS
Project: MVS SCP
Speakers: Elpida Tzortzatos (IBM Corporation)
In this session, the speaker will describe IBM's edict for brand-wide
virtual storage constraint relief (VSCR), offering insights into IBM's
strategies for evolving virtual storage management for improved handling
of current and future workloads. She will discuss the trade offs you may
have to make, between selecting the sizes of the 31-bit common areas and
extended private, while configuring and tuning your z/OS system for
optimal performance and reliability. The speaker will then cover your
options for moving control blocks out of the 31-bit common area. With
this common storage VSCR support, you can maintain more of the premium
storage below the bar for private address space utilization. This is a
new session for Orlando.
--
z/OS 1.9 Rocks! I got back 17M of ESQA from the CDT enhancement
described in Elpida's presentation. I got back a nice little chunk of
SQA relocating the LCCA/PCCA > 16M also discussed in the presentation.
A common cause of what you describe is that someone installed a
ServerPac and dropped in a large library into your LPALSTxx that does
not need to be LPA. ISP.SISPLPA for instance can be in link list and
has some big modules that are still RM 24.
Health Checker for z/OS can both monitor to insure that you know
immediately if your PVT/EPVT area changes more than you expect or falls
below some size threshold you specify. The check you want to look at
first is CHECK(IBMVSM,VSM_PVT). This gives you some useful data like a
virtual storage map and shows you how it compares to the previous IPL.
CHECK(IBMVSM,VSM_PVT_LIMIT)
START TIME: 07/09/2008 05:36:01.470981
CHECK DATE: 20040405 CHECK SEVERITY: LOW
CHECK PARM: PVT(9M),EPVT(1200M)
The current size of PVT is 10M, and satisfies the installation
specified minimum of 9M for this area.
The current size of EPVT is 1485M, and satisfies the
installation specified minimum of 1200M for this area.
VSM_PVT_LIMIT
Virtual Storage Configuration Report
Current IPL TOD: Compare IPL TOD:
07/09/2008 05:23:10.7588 07/02/2008 05:33:11.8391
DATE 07/09/200807/02/2008
TIME 05:23:10 05:33:11
LOADxxEBEB
IEANUC0x 1 1
CSA() 8B (3M,400M) 8B (3M,400M)
SQA() 00 (512K,64M) 00 (512K,64M)
FIX() n/a n/a
LPA() 00 8B 00 8B
MLPA()n/a n/a
MLPA()n/a n/a
Storage CurrentCompare
LocationChange Size size Start End
PVT00 A0 A0 00 A0
(10M) (10M)
CSA00 3C4000 3C4000 A0 DC4000
(3856K)(3856K)
MLPA n/a 00n/a 00 00
(0)
Re: PCOMM file xfer question (and rant)
Hmm. I remember that problem too, but I haven't seen it happen in years. I don't remember changing anything myself to make it go away, but I might have forgotten. Of course both the z/OS systems and my own workstation have been upgraded several times since the last time I saw it so who knows what changed? One problem I did have with IND$FILE was trying to invoke it from oddly sized custom sessions I had made, like 62 by 160, and using ISPF option 6 for the commands. It would blow up. The cure for that was to nuke the old *.ws files I had carried over from my old systems and create fresh ones using PCOMM 5.8. Roger Bolan IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 07/09/2008 01:39:28 PM: > The biggest problem that I have with IND$FILE is that it can be > interrupted by a SEND command coming from the operator or another TSO > user (or NOTIFY= from a job completing). > > -- > John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SFTP GET COMMAND QUESTION
Thanks, these look like good possibilities. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hal Merritt Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 3:15 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SFTP GET COMMAND QUESTION The 2 of 3 consensus here is: yes. But we don't recall how we did it. Look at z/os client parameters TRAILINGBLANKS, TRUNCATE, and WRAPRECORD. This will work if the data is FB. FTP will break the records into LRECL lengths. Look at z/os server parameters TRAILINGBLANKS, TRUNCATE, WRAPRECORD, MBSENDEOL, and SBSENDEOL. If you are issuing a GET or PUT then you are the client. But I think it is really a UNIX server parameter equivalent to SBSENDEOL that is the root issue. Otherwise, the *nix is not in compliance with RFC 959. We are not joking when it is said that z/os is more Unix than most other flavors out there. HTH. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 2:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: SFTP GET COMMAND QUESTION I have a question regarding the GET command for FTP. We have a file that comes from UNIX (AIX) to zLINUX through an SFTP. We need to get it to z/OS via FTP (not SFTP). The SFTP file contains the new line character, but not the end of line character. When the GET command is issued (via JCL on z/OS), we only get the first line of the file since it can't find the carriage return character (CR). Is there a command that can be added to the GET command to use the new line character (LF) to force the file to a new line rather than the carriage return character? Thanks, Mary NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM using more below the line storage.
Re: Rejected posting to IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU I sent this only once; I never saw the posting, so I'm re-sending. >It appears to me that IBM is assuming that the below the line > storage is now free and available for their use, and rather than going to > 31-bit addressing themselves, they are expanding use of 24-bit. > Interesting. Looks like a bit of "do as I say, not as I do." When IBM first came out with support for 3390's, they put the modules below the 16M line. Our SYSPROG management was not impressed. This was about the time everybody was using the Virtual Storage Tuning Cookbook and unplugging everything they could from the LPA -- the early days of 31-bit addressing, where IBM still listed what the next release contributed to VSCR. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM using more below the line storage.
>It appears to me that IBM is assuming that the below the line > storage is now free and available for their use, and rather than going to > 31-bit addressing themselves, they are expanding use of 24-bit. > Interesting. Looks like a bit of "do as I say, not as I do." When IBM first came out with support for 3390's, they put the modules below the 16M line. Our SYSPROG management was not impressed. This was about the time everybody was using the Virtual Storage Tuning Cookbook and unplugging everything they could from the LPA -- the early days of 31-bit addressing, where IBM still listed what the next release contributed to VSCR. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM using more below the line storage.
John Mattson wrote: IBM appears to be expanding use of storage below the 16M line, rather than converting their own code to 31-bit addressability. Here is the reply I received when I ETR asked CICS why I could no longer get a certain DSALIM value in TS22 after going to zos 1.08. "There is Common Storage shared by all address spaces, and not considered part of the private storage available for address space (task) use. In OS/390 2.10 the amount of Common Storage needed by the system was smaller than is required by z/os 1.8, which has much more function. When Common Storage increases, the amount of private storage decreases. My guess, based on my years of experience is that in your 2.10 system the amount of private storage available was 10M or possibly 11M. It must be on a meg boundry. In z/os 1.8 the amount of storage available for CICS , or any other address space has shrunk to 9M based on the increase in Common Storage." It appears to me that IBM is assuming that the below the line storage is now free and available for their use, and rather than going to 31-bit addressing themselves, they are expanding use of 24-bit. Interesting. Looks like a bit of "do as I say, not as I do." Interesting indeed. This entry in COMMND00 COM='S REGCHECK,REG=9M,SUB=MSTR CHECK PRIVATE AREA AVAILABLILITY' driving this PROC //REGCHECK PROC REG=##M //* //* THIS PROC IS TO BE STARTED VERY EARLY DURING IPL WITH SUB=MSTR. //* //* SUB=MSTR IMPLIES THIS PROC MUST BE IN SYS1.PROCLIB. //* //* THIS PROC IS INTENDED TO SAVE OUR TAILS IN THE EVENT WE DO //* MAINTENANCE OR OTHER CHANGES THAT PUSH BELOW-THE-LINE COMMON //* STORAGE DOWN INTO OUR REQUIRED BELOW-THE-LINE PRIVATE AREA, //* THUS REDUCING AVAILABLE BELOW-THE-LINE REGION BY ONE MEGABYTE. //* //* 1. THE "M" MUST BE INCLUDED IN REG=, E.G. 8M. //* //* 2. THE VALUE PART OF REG= MUST BE THE DESIRED SIZE OF THE //* PRIVATE BELOW-THE-LINE *REGION* SIZE NEEDED FOR THE SYSTEM. //* THIS VALUE WILL ALWAYS BE ONE MEGABYTE LESS THAN THE BELOW- //* THE-LINE *PRIVATE AREA* SIZE FOR THE SYSTEM. //* //* RLR, 4/1998 //* //CHECK EXEC PGM=IEFBR14,TIME=1,REGION=® // IF (CHECK.ABENDCC=S822) THEN //EXEC PGM=XSYWTO1,TIME=1, // PARM='SWR001E WARNING: REGION=® IS UNAVAILABLE.' //EXEC PGM=XSYWTO1,TIME=1, // PARM='SWR002E NOTIFY THE HOST SUPPORT PERSON IMMEDIATELY.' // ENDIF has been running at each IPL on all our LPARs since long before I had either OS/390 2.10 or z/OS 1.9. At the moment, it works on 1.7 and 1.9. (Yes, I realize that part of the comment isn't quite true, but it's real close.) I suggest analysis to determine which of CSA, SQA, LPA grew sufficiently to lower your below-the-line private area size. Remember that a minor change to any of those three areas has the potential to reduce the private area by 1M. Before and after snapshots are called for. Health Checker can tell you about CSA and SQA and whether or not you can shrink them, CSA= and SQA= in IEASYS00 can give you a hint--look to see if CSA on your system is grossly larger than you requested. If so, an LPAMAP should show you that LPA grew by some amount. Bob -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: wildcard utilities
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of SUBSCRIBE IBM-MAIN Jim > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 3:44 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: wildcard utilities > > I have to move on to some other things for now, but want to try > Barry's idea. Do you need something as simple as this? //LISTDS EXEC PGM=IKJEFT1B //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSTSIN DD * EXEC 'SYS1.SAMPLIB(IGGCSIRX)' EXEC SYS*.*SAMP* //* That will print the names of all the datasets beginning with SYS* and containing SAMP in the second qualifier to the SYSTSPRT DD. You can also use the .** suffix to get other datasets with longer names, like this: //LISTDS EXEC PGM=IKJEFT1B //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSTSIN DD * EXEC 'SYS1.SAMPLIB(IGGCSIRX)' EXEC SYS2.** //* HTH Peter This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SFTP GET COMMAND QUESTION
No, it was binary from UNIX to LINUX by default during the SFTP process, but then it is using FTP to get it from LINUX to z/OS which the default is ASCII. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Peurifoy Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 4:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SFTP GET COMMAND QUESTION Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM wrote: > I'm not sure about hex, but when you look at it in Octal (in Linux), on FTP'd > file there is a \r (or CR value) followed by a \n (or LF value). On the > SFTP'd file, there is only a \n (LF value). That is where it gets lost. The > \n is supposed to be the LF but when it gets passed to z/OS, z/OS doesn't > seem to recognize it and continues on with one long line. That is what I was > wondering is if somewhere in the z/OS GET command you have to tell it to use > LF and not CR. Is this where the TR command fits in or is there another way? > > Right now the only other idea is to add the CR value back into the file, but > I don't like the idea of modifying a production file by adding in the > character. > > Thanks, > Mary Mary, Is the FTP GET from z/OS binary? If it is binary, the LF would not be used to break the file into lines. -- Richard -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: wildcard utilities
You say you tried FDR and that you have quite a few other products, do you happen to have ABR as well that incorporates FDREPORT? Stephen Mednick Computer Supervisory Services Sydney, Australia > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of SUBSCRIBE IBM-MAIN Jim > Sent: Thursday, 10 July 2008 4:47 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: wildcard utilities > > I have had great suggestions so far, but I have tried DFDSS > and FDR and not gotten results I was looking for. Might not > be using the parameters correctly. > I think I will detail this more on my wishes and the > collective group can offer more ideas. We have an automated > scheduler software on our mainframe called Control-M that > will copy a jcl sysout to a file on whichever jobs we choose. > Those are the datasets in the format shown below that I wish > to create a single report from. > Organization . . . : PS > Record format . . . : FB > Record length . . . : 133 > Block size . . . . : 5985 > When I use DFDSS or FDR the dataset I try and create for > printing comes up in either a VBA or U format. And I am not > strong enough with sort or some other method to create the > report. I really don't care about creating a dataset at all, > if I can simply print the incoming datasets from the wildcard list. > Below is an example of one of the datasets sysouts and I > would like to keep that intact. This is not a completed > sysout example, but wanted to save lines. > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IBM using more below the line storage.
IBM appears to be expanding use of storage below the 16M line, rather than converting their own code to 31-bit addressability. Here is the reply I received when I ETR asked CICS why I could no longer get a certain DSALIM value in TS22 after going to zos 1.08. "There is Common Storage shared by all address spaces, and not considered part of the private storage available for address space (task) use. In OS/390 2.10 the amount of Common Storage needed by the system was smaller than is required by z/os 1.8, which has much more function. When Common Storage increases, the amount of private storage decreases. My guess, based on my years of experience is that in your 2.10 system the amount of private storage available was 10M or possibly 11M. It must be on a meg boundry. In z/os 1.8 the amount of storage available for CICS , or any other address space has shrunk to 9M based on the increase in Common Storage." It appears to me that IBM is assuming that the below the line storage is now free and available for their use, and rather than going to 31-bit addressing themselves, they are expanding use of 24-bit. Interesting. Looks like a bit of "do as I say, not as I do." -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SFTP GET COMMAND QUESTION
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 3:46 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: SFTP GET COMMAND QUESTION > > I'm not sure about hex, but when you look at it in Octal (in > Linux), on FTP'd > file there is a \r (or CR value) followed by a \n (or LF > value). On the > SFTP'd file, there is only a \n (LF value). That is where it > gets lost. The > \n is supposed to be the LF but when it gets passed to z/OS, > z/OS doesn't > seem to recognize it and continues on with one long line. > That is what I was > wondering is if somewhere in the z/OS GET command you have to > tell it to use > LF and not CR. Is this where the TR command fits in or is > there another way? > > Right now the only other idea is to add the CR value back > into the file, but > I don't like the idea of modifying a production file by adding in the > character. > > Thanks, > Mary OK, I just did a test with my Linux/Intel system. In my z/OS ftp job, I did a GET command to get a file from Linux to z/OS. I used the "vsftpd" ftp server and the "proftpd" ftp server for my tests. The results are below: vsftpd server - lines end with CRLF - file on z/OS is good vsftpd server - lines end with LF only - file on z/OS is bad - a single line proftpd server - lines end with CRLF - file on z/OS is good proftpd server - lines end with LF only - file on z/OS is good It appears that the vsftpd server is not responding correctly. While "in transit", lines being ftp'ed in ASCII mode are supposed to end with CRLF. An ASCII based UNIX server should convert the LF to a CRLF. vsftpd is apparently not doing this. My suggestion: use the proftpd server on z/Linux instead of the vsftpd server. If this is not possible, then the file on z/Linux needs to be converted to have CRLF at the end of the line. This can be done with the "unix2dos" utility on z/Linux. This cannot be fixed on the z/OS side as best as I can tell. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SFTP GET COMMAND QUESTION
Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM wrote: I'm not sure about hex, but when you look at it in Octal (in Linux), on FTP'd file there is a \r (or CR value) followed by a \n (or LF value). On the SFTP'd file, there is only a \n (LF value). That is where it gets lost. The \n is supposed to be the LF but when it gets passed to z/OS, z/OS doesn't seem to recognize it and continues on with one long line. That is what I was wondering is if somewhere in the z/OS GET command you have to tell it to use LF and not CR. Is this where the TR command fits in or is there another way? Right now the only other idea is to add the CR value back into the file, but I don't like the idea of modifying a production file by adding in the character. Thanks, Mary Mary, Is the FTP GET from z/OS binary? If it is binary, the LF would not be used to break the file into lines. -- Richard -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SFTP GET COMMAND QUESTION
I'm not sure about hex, but when you look at it in Octal (in Linux), on FTP'd file there is a \r (or CR value) followed by a \n (or LF value). On the SFTP'd file, there is only a \n (LF value). That is where it gets lost. The \n is supposed to be the LF but when it gets passed to z/OS, z/OS doesn't seem to recognize it and continues on with one long line. That is what I was wondering is if somewhere in the z/OS GET command you have to tell it to use LF and not CR. Is this where the TR command fits in or is there another way? Right now the only other idea is to add the CR value back into the file, but I don't like the idea of modifying a production file by adding in the character. Thanks, Mary -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 2:27 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SFTP GET COMMAND QUESTION > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 2:16 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: SFTP GET COMMAND QUESTION > > I have a question regarding the GET command for FTP. We have > a file that > comes from UNIX (AIX) to zLINUX through an SFTP. We need to > get it to z/OS > via FTP (not SFTP). The SFTP file contains the new line > character, but not > the end of line character. When the GET command is issued > (via JCL on z/OS), > we only get the first line of the file since it can't find > the carriage > return character (CR). > > Is there a command that can be added to the GET command to > use the new line > character (LF) to force the file to a new line rather than > the carriage > return character? > Thanks, > Mary >From what little that I know of the sftp command, as implemented on UNIX and Windows, is that it does the equivalent of a BINARY transfer. What is the "new line" character you mentioned, in hex? I hope that is it 0x0A. If so, then doing an ASCII ftp from z/Linux to z/OS should result in a normal file. I ftp'ed from my Linux/Intel box to both a z/OS sequential dataset and a z/OS UNIX (HFS) file. Both were OK. If it ends in something else, then I'd determine what character it is on your z/Linux box and translate it to 0x0a (using the tr command) before ftp'ing it to z/OS. AIX should end its lines in LF (0x0a), not CR (0x0d). Windows ends lines with CRLF (0x0d0a) -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Listing of current ROOT with Mount Points
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> Subject: Re: Listing of current ROOT with Mount Points
>
> Absolutely correct.
>
> Lizette
Unless I really screwed up, the following REXX program should do what
you want:
/* rexx */
call bpxwunix "df | awk '{ print $1;}' | grep '/' |
sort",,stdout.,stderr.
lrm=stdout.2
llrm=length(lrm)
do i=3 to stdout.0
if lrm=left(stdout.i,llrm) then iterate
lrm = stdout.i
llrm=length(lrm)
say lrm
end
This program will run as a TSO REXX or UNIX REXX command.
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Re: Going unsupported - time to fold?
On 9 Jul 2008 11:32:56 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >To all: >Thank you for the various inputs for my thought process - that is one >of the benefits and enjoyments of this discussion list. > >Just to share what is going on here: > >We are currently moving to a PeopleSoft environment (40 servers, which >includes a DR site) to replace CGI-AMS financials/HR packages on the >mainframe. Financials is already *mostly* running on the distributed >platform and HR is scheduled for golive the beginning of August. Beyond >these two applications, there will remain about a dozen assorted CICS >applications, which is what they believe they should move off the >mainframe as soon as possible, for the "cost savings" (known as budget >cuts). > >Of interest in this story is: 1) these remaining applications are used >primarily as our revenue applications; 2) a project manager's progress >tracking tool where 10 of these are listed as being in a *planning* >stage - although our applications team has not seen individual project >plans for each application; 3) this means no design or procurement of >replacement applications has begun; 4) a statement has been made to >management that the *majority* of these applications will be off of the >mainframe by the end of the year. > >So, I have been involved and cross trained for the Linux environment >installed for Peoplesoft, and my supervisor wants to know if I have time >to do a z/OS upgrade for something that's *going away*. > >Again, thanks for all of the posts. > >Peggy > Since the only online access that I see in your posting is TSO and CICS, the vulnerability to web related exposures should be low. If my analysis is incorrect and there is a lot of web access, then I would not want to be unsupported. In short if you aren't changing the applications and there is little or no Internet access, the chances of major problems in the time frame envisioned are low. Getting rid of the mainframe makes sense if you are stuck with the 40 servers and can't consolidate their work onto the mainframe. What scares me is the replacement of the remaining applications being only in the planning stage. It also implies that nobody really knows what these applications do. I might note that a conversion to SAP at a major utility took 6 months to a year longer than anticipated. The whole situation seems to be one requiring extreme discretion and tact on your part. Bank takeovers where systems are ruthlessly and quickly consolidated may be a good model but someone who has experience in doing this sort of thing is needed. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Related to: DB2 V8 and Unicode
>> I forgot to add... >> >> Even if you think 40M (or however big the pre-built image is now) is "huge", >> remember that by default under z/OS 1.8 and above all tables are loaded >> in non-page fixed storage by default (you can page fix them if desired). >> This doesn't apply to z/OS 1.7 though AFAIK. > >Does any other component or product use Unicode on demand? > >For example, Java uses Unicode; C, COBOL, and PL/I all have >Unicode support. Do any of these use the Unicode tables loaded >by Unicode on demand? I think any user of Unicode Services will get the dynamic loading. COBOL does, and it happened when Unicode Services changed in 1.7, not because we (in COBOL) did anything differently. Cheers, TomR >> COBOL is the Language of the Future! << -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Going unsupported - time to fold?
Very interesting. I think I hear an undertone: no planning, so how could anyone possibly know how much and how long? Translation: there is no real intention to do that. Just a bunch of folks playing word games to please a high individual making promises he/she can't keep. I think I also hear a vibration of some management carefully hedging bets by keeping his z/os crew on the payroll. Keep a positive attitude. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peggy Andrews Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 1:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Going unsupported - time to fold? To all: Thank you for the various inputs for my thought process - that is one of the benefits and enjoyments of this discussion list. Just to share what is going on here: We are currently moving to a PeopleSoft environment (40 servers, which includes a DR site) to replace CGI-AMS financials/HR packages on the mainframe. Financials is already *mostly* running on the distributed platform and HR is scheduled for golive the beginning of August. Beyond these two applications, there will remain about a dozen assorted CICS applications, which is what they believe they should move off the mainframe as soon as possible, for the "cost savings" (known as budget cuts). Of interest in this story is: 1) these remaining applications are used primarily as our revenue applications; 2) a project manager's progress tracking tool where 10 of these are listed as being in a *planning* stage - although our applications team has not seen individual project plans for each application; 3) this means no design or procurement of replacement applications has begun; 4) a statement has been made to management that the *majority* of these applications will be off of the mainframe by the end of the year. So, I have been involved and cross trained for the Linux environment installed for Peoplesoft, and my supervisor wants to know if I have time to do a z/OS upgrade for something that's *going away*. Again, thanks for all of the posts. Peggy NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Listing of current ROOT with Mount Points
This is from a few years ago; I haven't run it in a while so I'm not sure if it still works. Basic process is to mount your new root on a new mount point, use UNIX ls command on the actual root and the new root with output to unix files, copy those files to MVS data sets, then use SUPERC to compare those data sets. /* rexx HFSDIRC */ parse arg dir1 dir2 junk dir1 = strip(dir1) dir2 = strip(dir2) if dir1 = "" or dir2 = "" then do say "Two directories must be specified" exit 4 end "oshell ls -Fln "dir1" > /tmp/lsdir1" "oshell ls -Fln "dir2" > /tmp/lsdir2" "oget '/tmp/lsdir1' 'my.DIR1'" "oget '/tmp/lsdir2' 'my.DIR2'" //LISTDIR EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01, // PARM='HFSDIRC / /SERVICE' //SYSPROC DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.SBPXEXEC // DD DISP=SHR,DSN=my.execlib //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSTSIN DD DUMMY //COMPARE EXEC PGM=ISRSUPC,COND=(4,LE,LISTDIR), //PARM=(LONGL,LINECMP, //'', //'') //NEWDD DD DISP=SHR,DSN=my.DIR2 //OLDDD DD DISP=SHR,DSN=my.DIR1 //OUTDD DD SYSOUT=* //SYSIN DD * cmpcolm 1:10 16:32 55:80 /* Don Imbriale -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 3:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Listing of current ROOT with Mount Points I was wondering if any cleaver sysprog out there wrote a process that would extract the current ROOT and its mount points. Then compare those mountpoint to the new ROOT that would go in with the IPL and flag any differences? I am still to new at USS to see how to do this with REXX on z/OS. This would need to work against HFS and zFS files. Yes - I know that UNIX is UNIX, however, I want to make sure I am specific enough. I am currently working on my z/OS V1.7 to V1.9 upgrade. And it seems we sometimes have others add mount points and not update our documentation. I am just looking for an easy way to see what is changing between the two. For example. I am adding SIGYROOT to my new ROOT. It currently does not exist in my z/OS V1.7 Root. *** Bear Stearns is not responsible for any recommendation, solicitation, offer or agreement or any information about any transaction, customer account or account activity contained in this communication. *** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: South Dakota migrates off mainframe; chaos ensues
On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 13:02:16 -0500, Pommier, Rex R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >...They switched from the plates going with the vehicle >to the plates staying with the seller. ... Way off topic, but I've had some cars with the bolts so rusted I'd never get the plates off. I guess I'd have to keep the car forever if I were from South Dakota. >... decided to use this law change as the reason to migrate the >application off the mainframe. So, they had no fall-back ability in >case of problems - >... To be fair, this problem had less to do with "off the mainframe" than "onto a new application" and "no fallback". If the same project managers were involved, the migration would probably have gone no better if it had been to another application on the mainframe. Pat O'Keefe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Listing of current ROOT with Mount Points
Absolutely correct. Lizette >> I was wondering if any cleaver sysprog out there wrote a >> process that would extract the current ROOT and its mount >> points. Then compare those mountpoint to the new ROOT that >> would go in with the IPL and flag any differences? >> >> I am still to new at USS to see how to do this with REXX on z/OS. >> >> This would need to work against HFS and zFS files. Yes - I >> know that UNIX is UNIX, however, I want to make sure I am >> specific enough. >> >> I am currently working on my z/OS V1.7 to V1.9 upgrade. And >> it seems we sometimes have others add mount points and not >> update our documentation. >> >> I am just looking for an easy way to see what is changing >> between the two. >> >> For example. I am adding SIGYROOT to my new ROOT. It >> currently does not exist in my z/OS V1.7 Root. >> >> Thanks for any thoughts. >> >> Lizette > >I'm not sure what you want, so I'll try to rephrase. You want a listing >of filesystems mounted, but only if they are mounted in the ROOT >filesystem. If they are mounted on a filesystem which is not ROOT, then >you don't want it listed. > >As an example, suppose I have the following output from a "df" command: > >/ >/SYSTEM/dev >/SYSTEM/etc >/SYSTEM/tmp >/SYSTEM/var >/usr/local >/usr/local/products/opentech >/usr/local/src > >You would want only the mountpoints: > >/ >/SYSTEM/dev >/SYSTEM/etc >/SYSTEM/tmp >/SYSTEM/var >/usr/local > >and not the mount points: > >/usr/local/products/opentech >/usr/local/src > >Correct? > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Listing of current ROOT with Mount Points
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 2:51 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Listing of current ROOT with Mount Points > > I was wondering if any cleaver sysprog out there wrote a > process that would extract the current ROOT and its mount > points. Then compare those mountpoint to the new ROOT that > would go in with the IPL and flag any differences? > > I am still to new at USS to see how to do this with REXX on z/OS. > > This would need to work against HFS and zFS files. Yes - I > know that UNIX is UNIX, however, I want to make sure I am > specific enough. > > I am currently working on my z/OS V1.7 to V1.9 upgrade. And > it seems we sometimes have others add mount points and not > update our documentation. > > I am just looking for an easy way to see what is changing > between the two. > > For example. I am adding SIGYROOT to my new ROOT. It > currently does not exist in my z/OS V1.7 Root. > > Thanks for any thoughts. > > Lizette I'm not sure what you want, so I'll try to rephrase. You want a listing of filesystems mounted, but only if they are mounted in the ROOT filesystem. If they are mounted on a filesystem which is not ROOT, then you don't want it listed. As an example, suppose I have the following output from a "df" command: / /SYSTEM/dev /SYSTEM/etc /SYSTEM/tmp /SYSTEM/var /usr/local /usr/local/products/opentech /usr/local/src You would want only the mountpoints: / /SYSTEM/dev /SYSTEM/etc /SYSTEM/tmp /SYSTEM/var /usr/local and not the mount points: /usr/local/products/opentech /usr/local/src Correct? -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SFTP GET COMMAND QUESTION
The 2 of 3 consensus here is: yes. But we don't recall how we did it. Look at z/os client parameters TRAILINGBLANKS, TRUNCATE, and WRAPRECORD. This will work if the data is FB. FTP will break the records into LRECL lengths. Look at z/os server parameters TRAILINGBLANKS, TRUNCATE, WRAPRECORD, MBSENDEOL, and SBSENDEOL. If you are issuing a GET or PUT then you are the client. But I think it is really a UNIX server parameter equivalent to SBSENDEOL that is the root issue. Otherwise, the *nix is not in compliance with RFC 959. We are not joking when it is said that z/os is more Unix than most other flavors out there. HTH. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 2:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: SFTP GET COMMAND QUESTION I have a question regarding the GET command for FTP. We have a file that comes from UNIX (AIX) to zLINUX through an SFTP. We need to get it to z/OS via FTP (not SFTP). The SFTP file contains the new line character, but not the end of line character. When the GET command is issued (via JCL on z/OS), we only get the first line of the file since it can't find the carriage return character (CR). Is there a command that can be added to the GET command to use the new line character (LF) to force the file to a new line rather than the carriage return character? Thanks, Mary NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Listing of current ROOT with Mount Points
On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 16:01:39 -0400, George Allen Bly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Try command "D OMVS,F". > >George > > >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 3:50 PM >To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU >Subject: Listing of current ROOT with Mount Points > >I was wondering if any cleaver sysprog out there wrote a process that would extract the current ROOT and its mount points. Then compare those mountpoint to the new ROOT that would go in with the IPL and flag any differences? > >I am still to new at USS to see how to do this with REXX on z/OS. > >This would need to work against HFS and zFS files. Yes - I know that UNIX is UNIX, however, I want to make sure I am specific enough. > >I am currently working on my z/OS V1.7 to V1.9 upgrade. And it seems we sometimes have others add mount points and not update our documentation. > >I am just looking for an easy way to see what is changing between the two. > >For example. I am adding SIGYROOT to my new ROOT. It currently does not exist in my z/OS V1.7 Root. > >Thanks for any thoughts. > >Lizette > >-- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO >Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > >-- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO >Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html In batch, here's an option that works: //RUNOSH EXEC PGM=IKJEFT1B,REGION=2M //SYSEXEC DD DSN=SYS1.SBPXEXEC,DISP=SHR //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSTSIN DD * OSHELL df /* Scott Barry SBBWorks, Inc. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Listing of current ROOT with Mount Points
Try command "D OMVS,F". George From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 3:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Listing of current ROOT with Mount Points I was wondering if any cleaver sysprog out there wrote a process that would extract the current ROOT and its mount points. Then compare those mountpoint to the new ROOT that would go in with the IPL and flag any differences? I am still to new at USS to see how to do this with REXX on z/OS. This would need to work against HFS and zFS files. Yes - I know that UNIX is UNIX, however, I want to make sure I am specific enough. I am currently working on my z/OS V1.7 to V1.9 upgrade. And it seems we sometimes have others add mount points and not update our documentation. I am just looking for an easy way to see what is changing between the two. For example. I am adding SIGYROOT to my new ROOT. It currently does not exist in my z/OS V1.7 Root. Thanks for any thoughts. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: LOOKAT ICH408I
On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 09:32:54 -0400, Jerry Fuchs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >If the HLQ is not defined the data set will be cataloged in the master >catalog. > >Your ID is not authorized to update the master catalog. >... I could possibly be way off base, but I really don't think he needs an explanation of ICH408I ... especially since he went out of his way to get it. Pat O'Keefe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Listing of current ROOT with Mount Points
I was wondering if any cleaver sysprog out there wrote a process that would extract the current ROOT and its mount points. Then compare those mountpoint to the new ROOT that would go in with the IPL and flag any differences? I am still to new at USS to see how to do this with REXX on z/OS. This would need to work against HFS and zFS files. Yes - I know that UNIX is UNIX, however, I want to make sure I am specific enough. I am currently working on my z/OS V1.7 to V1.9 upgrade. And it seems we sometimes have others add mount points and not update our documentation. I am just looking for an easy way to see what is changing between the two. For example. I am adding SIGYROOT to my new ROOT. It currently does not exist in my z/OS V1.7 Root. Thanks for any thoughts. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: wildcard utilities
I have to move on to some other things for now, but want to try Barry's idea. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PCOMM file xfer question (and rant)
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 2:38 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: PCOMM file xfer question (and rant) > > David Alcock wrote: > > I prefer my data transfer in TCP/IP packets instead of > > IND$FILE's ancient screen scraper kludge. > > > > For modern 3270 emulators, IND$FILE does not use a "screen scraper" > kludge. Rather, the transfer is done using structured fields. > > -- > Edward E Jaffe The biggest problem that I have with IND$FILE is that it can be interrupted by a SEND command coming from the operator or another TSO user (or NOTIFY= from a job completing). -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PCOMM file xfer question (and rant)
David Alcock wrote: I prefer my data transfer in TCP/IP packets instead of IND$FILE's ancient screen scraper kludge. For modern 3270 emulators, IND$FILE does not use a "screen scraper" kludge. Rather, the transfer is done using structured fields. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: wildcard utilities
Even though you called it a print file, the dataset you create is actually a dump file. That is the reason the DCB is not what you expect. It is also the reason your sort did not provide anything expected. Unless I misunderstand, for this effort you do not want the actual data in the new print files created by Control-M. You merely want a list of the DSNs created on a certain date. If this is correct: Your TAPE DD statement should be named SYSPRINT. Delete the existing SYSPRINT. The space parameter seems excessive for a list of DSNs. Add a TAPE DD statement with DUMMY or DSN=NULLFILE. Add PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN' to your EXEC statement. Add "BY(CREDT,EQ,ddd) -" after the DUMP line to specify the date of interest. You mentioned usually wanting "yesterday's datasets". In this case, you can replace the ddd with "*,-1". Your list of datasets will be in the SYSPRINT output along with other DSS messages. Check the DFSMS Storage Administration Reference manual for the details and other options. -Original Message- From: SUBSCRIBE IBM-MAIN Jim [mailto:snip] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 12:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: wildcard utilities The scheduler software is generating the dataset. It basically invokes JES and makes a copy of whatever sysouts you choose(leaving original sysout in queue). Not sure if you saw my latest post, but please let me know if additional information is needed. If your talking about the DFDSS jcl I have attempted to use to create a working print dataset, see below : //DRTSTRPT JOB ,'DRPRT',CLASS=X, // MSGLEVEL=(1,1),MSGCLASS=X,REGION=4096K //* *** //STEP010 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //TAPE DD DSN=UN.DRPRINT.FILE, // DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE), // UNIT=3390, // DCB=(BLKSIZE=5985,LRECL=133,RECFM=FB), // SPACE=(CYL,(5,2),RLSE,,ROUND) //SYSINDD* DUMP DATASET(INCLUDE(UN.DRRPT.**)) - OUTDDNAME(TAPE) /* // The UN.DRPRINT.FILE file created by the utility actually becomes : Organization . . . : PS Record format . . . : U Record length . . . : 133 Block size . . . . : 23408 I attempted to sort certain records from that dataset and came up with an ugly mess. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SFTP GET COMMAND QUESTION
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 2:16 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: SFTP GET COMMAND QUESTION > > I have a question regarding the GET command for FTP. We have > a file that > comes from UNIX (AIX) to zLINUX through an SFTP. We need to > get it to z/OS > via FTP (not SFTP). The SFTP file contains the new line > character, but not > the end of line character. When the GET command is issued > (via JCL on z/OS), > we only get the first line of the file since it can't find > the carriage > return character (CR). > > Is there a command that can be added to the GET command to > use the new line > character (LF) to force the file to a new line rather than > the carriage > return character? > Thanks, > Mary >From what little that I know of the sftp command, as implemented on UNIX and Windows, is that it does the equivalent of a BINARY transfer. What is the "new line" character you mentioned, in hex? I hope that is it 0x0A. If so, then doing an ASCII ftp from z/Linux to z/OS should result in a normal file. I ftp'ed from my Linux/Intel box to both a z/OS sequential dataset and a z/OS UNIX (HFS) file. Both were OK. If it ends in something else, then I'd determine what character it is on your z/Linux box and translate it to 0x0a (using the tr command) before ftp'ing it to z/OS. AIX should end its lines in LF (0x0a), not CR (0x0d). Windows ends lines with CRLF (0x0d0a) -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: wildcard utilities
Yes, Control-M can create the dataset with any name up to 44 characters. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SFTP GET COMMAND QUESTION
I have a question regarding the GET command for FTP. We have a file that comes from UNIX (AIX) to zLINUX through an SFTP. We need to get it to z/OS via FTP (not SFTP). The SFTP file contains the new line character, but not the end of line character. When the GET command is issued (via JCL on z/OS), we only get the first line of the file since it can't find the carriage return character (CR). Is there a command that can be added to the GET command to use the new line character (LF) to force the file to a new line rather than the carriage return character? Thanks, Mary -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: wildcard utilities
Can you customize Control-M to create datasets with a certain naming convention? For example the output files would be called: SPECHLQ.CONTROLM.COPIED.SYSOUT.whatever-the-job-name-is -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of SUBSCRIBE IBM-MAIN Jim Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 1:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: wildcard utilities I have had great suggestions so far, but I have tried DFDSS and FDR and not gotten results I was looking for. Might not be using the parameters correctly. I think I will detail this more on my wishes and the collective group can offer more ideas. We have an automated scheduler software on our mainframe called Control-M that will copy a jcl sysout to a file on whichever jobs we choose. Those are the datasets in the format shown below that I wish to create a single report from. Organization . . . : PS Record format . . . : FB Record length . . . : 133 Block size . . . . : 5985 When I use DFDSS or FDR the dataset I try and create for printing comes up in either a VBA or U format. And I am not strong enough with sort or some other method to create the report. I really don't care about creating a dataset at all, if I can simply print the incoming datasets from the wildcard list. Below is an example of one of the datasets sysouts and I would like to keep that intact. This is not a completed sysout example, but wanted to save lines. 13.27.16 JOB01736 MONDAY,30 JUN 2008 13.27.16 JOB01736 IRR010I USERID OMVSKERN IS ASSIGNED TO THIS JOB. 13.27.27 JOB01736 ICH70001I OMVSKERN LAST ACCESS AT 13:26:33 ON MONDAY, JUNE 3 13.27.27 JOB01736 $HASP373 SYUT105 STARTED - INIT 17 - CLASS X - SYS TECH 13.27.27 JOB01736 IEF403I SYUT105 - STARTED - TIME=13.27.27 13.27.31 JOB01736 - --TIMINGS ( 13.27.31 JOB01736 -JOBNAME STEPNAME PROCSTEPRC EXCP CONN TCBSR 13.27.31 JOB01736 -SYUT105 STEP01 00 83 69.00 .0 13.27.31 JOB01736 IEF404I SYUT105 - ENDED - TIME=13.27.31 13.27.31 JOB01736 -SYUT105 ENDED. NAME-OPERATIONTOTAL TCB CPU TI 13.27.32 JOB01736 $HASP395 SYUT105 ENDED -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: wildcard utilities
The scheduler software is generating the dataset. It basically invokes JES and makes a copy of whatever sysouts you choose(leaving original sysout in queue). Not sure if you saw my latest post, but please let me know if additional information is needed. If your talking about the DFDSS jcl I have attempted to use to create a working print dataset, see below : //DRTSTRPT JOB ,'DRPRT',CLASS=X, // MSGLEVEL=(1,1),MSGCLASS=X,REGION=4096K //* *** //STEP010 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //TAPE DD DSN=UN.DRPRINT.FILE, // DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE), // UNIT=3390, // DCB=(BLKSIZE=5985,LRECL=133,RECFM=FB), // SPACE=(CYL,(5,2),RLSE,,ROUND) //SYSINDD* DUMP DATASET(INCLUDE(UN.DRRPT.**)) - OUTDDNAME(TAPE) /* // The UN.DRPRINT.FILE file created by the utility actually becomes : Organization . . . : PS Record format . . . : U Record length . . . : 133 Block size . . . . : 23408 I attempted to sort certain records from that dataset and came up with an ugly mess. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: wildcard utilities
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of SUBSCRIBE IBM-MAIN Jim
> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 8:03 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: wildcard utilities
>
> I have been struggling with a way to use wildcards as a means
> of not having
> to know all dataset names that may be created within a day's
> time. I know
> you can use wildcards within a IDCAMS using the LISTCAT ENTRIES
> statement, but what I would really like is to be able to copy
> all the wildcard
> datasets to another single dataset for reporting type
> purposes. We have
> quite a few products on our mainframe, but I really don't
> know the best
> approach or software. Below is a brief example of what I
> want to accomplish.
>
> All the datasets are - ORG of PS, RECFM = FB, LRECL = 133,
> BLKSIZE = 5985
>
>
> DISK.TEST.DATASETA
> DISK.TEST.DATASETB
> DISK.TEST.DATASETC
>
> Hopefully use wildcard of DISK.TEST.** to pick up ALL
> datasets and then
> copy to any other name I choose - DISK.BACKUP.DATASETS. Then
> using that
> dataset to print out a single report in a viewable format.
>
> Thanks in advance for any and all suggestions.
ISPF's LMDLIST can do that. I don't know really what you want to do, but
below is an example in REXX.
/* REXX */
PARSE ARG PATTERN
ADDRESS ISPEXEC
"LMDINIT LISTID(LISTID) LEVEL("PATTERN")"
IF RC <> 0 THEN DO
SAY "LMDINIT RC="RC
EXIT RC
END
DSN=" "
DO FOREVER
"LMDLIST LISTID("LISTID") OPTION(LIST) DATASET(DSN) STATS(YES)"
IF RC <> 0 THEN LEAVE
SAY "PROCESSING DSN="DSN
/* DO WHATEVER YOU WANT WITH THIS DSN HERE */
/* COPY CONTENTS OF DSN */
ADDRESS TSO "ALLOC DDN(SYSUT1) DSN('"DSN"') SHR REUSE"
ADDRESS TSO "CALL *(IEBGENER)"
ADDRESS TSO "FREE DDN(SYSUT1)"
END
"LMDLIST LISTID("LISTID") OPTION(FREE)"
JCL to execute the above example would look like:
//STEP010 EXEC PGM=IKJEFT1B,
// REGION=4096K,TIME=NOLIMIT,
// PARM=''
//SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=*
//ISPPROF DD SPACE=(TRK,(10,10,100)),
// DCB=(SYS1.MACLIB)
//ISPLOG DD SYSOUT=*,
// LRECL=121,RECFM=FBA,
// BLKSIZE=121,BUFNO=1
//ISPLIST DD SYSOUT=*,
// LRECL=121,RECFM=FBA,
// BLKSIZE=121,BUFNO=1
//ISPPLIB DD DSN=ISP.SISPPENU,
// DISP=SHR
//ISPTLIB DD DSN=ISP.SISPTENU,
// DISP=SHR
//ISPMLIB DD DSN=ISP.SISPMENU,
// DISP=SHR
//ISPSLIB DD DSN=ISP.SISPSLIB,
// DISP=SHR
//SYSPROC DD DSN=ISP.SISPCLIB,
// DISP=SHR
//SYSEXEC DD DSN=TSH009.REXX.EXEC,
// DISP=SHR
// DD DSN=ISP.SISPEXEC,
// DISP=SHR
//SYSTSIN DD *
EXECUTIL SEARCHDD(YES)
PROFILE PREFIX(myid)
ISPSTART CMD(%LMDLIST TSH009.**)
/*
//SYSUT2 DD DSN=MY.OUTPUT.DSN,
// DISP=(MOD,CATLG,CATLG),
// UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(CYL,(200,100),RLSE),
// DCB=(...)
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSIN DD DUMMY
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Re: PCOMM file xfer question (and rant)
I don't know how you guys can stand FTP when WSA is available. :-) On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 2:58 PM, David Alcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I don't know how you guys that have to >> use PCOMM and Extra can stand it. Thank >> God for Vista. > > I don't know how you guys that have to use IND$FILE can stand > it. Thank God for TCP/IP FTP. > > I prefer my data transfer in TCP/IP packets instead of > IND$FILE's ancient screen scraper kludge. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PCOMM file xfer question (and rant)
> I don't know how you guys that have to > use PCOMM and Extra can stand it. Thank > God for Vista. I don't know how you guys that have to use IND$FILE can stand it. Thank God for TCP/IP FTP. I prefer my data transfer in TCP/IP packets instead of IND$FILE's ancient screen scraper kludge. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: wildcard utilities
We need the JCL and a 3.4 print of the dataset you are creating. Put in the JCL you are using. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: wildcard utilities
I have had great suggestions so far, but I have tried DFDSS and FDR and not gotten results I was looking for. Might not be using the parameters correctly. I think I will detail this more on my wishes and the collective group can offer more ideas. We have an automated scheduler software on our mainframe called Control-M that will copy a jcl sysout to a file on whichever jobs we choose. Those are the datasets in the format shown below that I wish to create a single report from. Organization . . . : PS Record format . . . : FB Record length . . . : 133 Block size . . . . : 5985 When I use DFDSS or FDR the dataset I try and create for printing comes up in either a VBA or U format. And I am not strong enough with sort or some other method to create the report. I really don't care about creating a dataset at all, if I can simply print the incoming datasets from the wildcard list. Below is an example of one of the datasets sysouts and I would like to keep that intact. This is not a completed sysout example, but wanted to save lines. 13.27.16 JOB01736 MONDAY,30 JUN 2008 13.27.16 JOB01736 IRR010I USERID OMVSKERN IS ASSIGNED TO THIS JOB. 13.27.27 JOB01736 ICH70001I OMVSKERN LAST ACCESS AT 13:26:33 ON MONDAY, JUNE 3 13.27.27 JOB01736 $HASP373 SYUT105 STARTED - INIT 17 - CLASS X - SYS TECH 13.27.27 JOB01736 IEF403I SYUT105 - STARTED - TIME=13.27.27 13.27.31 JOB01736 ---TIMINGS ( 13.27.31 JOB01736 -JOBNAME STEPNAME PROCSTEPRC EXCP CONN TCBSR 13.27.31 JOB01736 -SYUT105 STEP01 00 83 69.00.0 13.27.31 JOB01736 IEF404I SYUT105 - ENDED - TIME=13.27.31 13.27.31 JOB01736 -SYUT105 ENDED. NAME-OPERATIONTOTAL TCB CPU TI 13.27.32 JOB01736 $HASP395 SYUT105 ENDED -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: User/Ref Manual for CSS
Shaja, I couldn't locate a CSS user manual in our documentation. However, I have some JCL to print and export programs from CSS DDIO data sets, if that's what you're looking for. I believe the JCL was supplied by CSS support when we had a problem. //STEP1EXEC PGM=TMDDSUTL //STEPLIB DD DISP=SHR,DSN=your.SLCXLOAD //ABNLDFIL DD DISP=SHR,DSN=ddio.dataset //ABNLREPT DD SYSOUT=* //ABNLPARM DD * PRINT PROGRAM=pgmid //STEP1EXEC PGM=CWDDSUTL //STEPLIB DD DISP=SHR,DSN=your.SLCXLOAD //CWUT0001 DD DISP=SHR,DSN=ddio.dataset //CWUT0002 DD DSN=export.dataset,DISP=(NEW,CATLG), //UNIT=SYSDA,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=8000,RECFM=FB, //SPACE=(8000,(0007,1)) //SYSUDUMP DD SYSOUT=* //ABNLPARM DD * EXPORT FROMDD=CWUT0001, PROGRAM=pgmid, EXEC=SUMMARY, TODD=CWUT0002 /* HTH, Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Co. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Shaja Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 8:28 AM Currently I am working on a batch service to extract Abend-aid DDIO Files. However I could not find any documentation on this...Does any one have the User/Ref Manual for Compuware Shared Services ( CSS ) ..? Appreciate if someone could share it... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: User/Ref Manual for CSS
Have you tried their website (frontline.compuware.com)? The manuals are there for downloading. -Original Message- From: Shaja [mailto:snip] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 6:28 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: User/Ref Manual for CSS Hello all, Currently I am working on a batch service to extract Abend-aid DDIO Files. However I could not find any documentation on this...Does any one have the User/Ref Manual for Compuware Shared Services ( CSS ) ..? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Going unsupported - time to fold?
To all: Thank you for the various inputs for my thought process - that is one of the benefits and enjoyments of this discussion list. Just to share what is going on here: We are currently moving to a PeopleSoft environment (40 servers, which includes a DR site) to replace CGI-AMS financials/HR packages on the mainframe. Financials is already *mostly* running on the distributed platform and HR is scheduled for golive the beginning of August. Beyond these two applications, there will remain about a dozen assorted CICS applications, which is what they believe they should move off the mainframe as soon as possible, for the "cost savings" (known as budget cuts). Of interest in this story is: 1) these remaining applications are used primarily as our revenue applications; 2) a project manager's progress tracking tool where 10 of these are listed as being in a *planning* stage - although our applications team has not seen individual project plans for each application; 3) this means no design or procurement of replacement applications has begun; 4) a statement has been made to management that the *majority* of these applications will be off of the mainframe by the end of the year. So, I have been involved and cross trained for the Linux environment installed for Peoplesoft, and my supervisor wants to know if I have time to do a z/OS upgrade for something that's *going away*. Again, thanks for all of the posts. Peggy -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: South Dakota migrates off mainframe; chaos ensues
Hi John, Interesting way for my home state to get in the media!! Unfortunately the state made a "slight" mistake in this implementation. The legislature decided to change the way license plates are handled when a vehicle gets sold. They switched from the plates going with the vehicle to the plates staying with the seller. There was a hard implementation date to get this change made. Unfortunately they apparently decided to use this law change as the reason to migrate the application off the mainframe. So, they had no fall-back ability in case of problems - which apparently are myriad. One of my co-workers said he heard the application needs to be cycled multiple times a day - either to keep it from crashing or because of crashes. Rex > Subject: South Dakota migrates off mainframe; chaos ensues > > From this week's TechTarget magazine(watch for line wrap here) > > > http://www.mail2web.com/cgi-bin/redir.asp?lid=0&newsite=http:/ > /go.techtarget > .com/r/3997279/567145 > > DJ Tinyurl to that site. http://preview.tinyurl.com/6o4oqe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Sort Trivia - or What Were You Thinking?
Martin Kline wrote: | //BUILD EXEC PGM=IEBGENER | //SYSUT1 DD * | RECORD 1 PLUS SOME EXTRANEOUS CHARACTERS > 40 | RECORD 2 PLUS SOME EXTRANEOUS CHARACTERS > 40 | RECORD 3 PLUS SOME EXTRANEOUS CHARACTERS > 40 | RECORD 10 PLUS SOME EXTRANEOUS CHARACTERS > 40 | RECORD 11 PLUS SOME EXTRANEOUS CHARACTERS > 40 | RECORD 12 PLUS SOME EXTRANEOUS CHARACTERS > 40 | //SYSUT2 DD DISP=(,PASS),SPACE=(TRK,1), | // DSN=&ORIG, | // RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=8000 | //SYSINDD DUMMY | //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* | //*-- | //* COPY THE FIRST 40 BYTES OF EACH INPUT RECORD | //*-- | //SORT1 EXEC PGM=SORT | //SORTIN DD DISP=(OLD,PASS),DSN=&ORIG | //SORTOUT DD DISP=(,PASS),UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(TRK,1), | // DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=24,BLKSIZE=2400), | // DSN=&TEMP1 | //SORTMSG DD DUMMY | //SYSINDD * | SORT FIELDS=(1,8,CH,A) | OUTREC FIELDS=(1,40) | //*--- | //* EXPAND THE RECORDS FROM THE COPY | //*--- | //SORT2 EXEC PGM=SORT | //SORTIN DD DISP=(OLD,PASS),DSN=&TEMP1 | //SORTOUT DD DISP=(,PASS),UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(TRK,1), | // DCB=*.SORT1.SORTIN,DSN=&TEMP2 | //SORTMSG DD DUMMY | //SYSINDD * | SORT FIELDS=(3,7,CH,A) | //* > how many bytes will be in the output TEMP2 file? The answer centers around the answers to two questions: (1) What DCB characteristics will the SORTOUT data set in step SORT2 actually end up having? (2) How does the SORT utility behave with that DCB? The answers are as follows: (1) DCB=*.SORT1.SORTIN on the SORTOUT DD statement in step SORT2 is useless, because there is no DCB in the JFCB to copy (because there was no DCB on the referenced DD statement). And there will still be none after the step executes, because that DDNAME will have been OPENed for INPUT. Consequently, data set &TEMP2 will be allocated with undefined DCB characteristics (of interest). It is possible that SMS or installation controls or OEM products could cause this to be different, so not all sites will necessarily experience the same results. (2) In step SORT2, ICEMAN will discover that the output data set has "missing" DCB characteristics and will copy the DCB characteristics from the &TEMP1 data set referenced by DDNAME SORTIN. I don't know what SYNCSORT will do but it should probably do exactly the same thing (at least it used to do so, in my memory). Thus, the DCB of &TEMP2 will, I predict, end up being LRECL=24. Hence, with 6 input records, there will be 6 * 24 = 144 bytes in the &TEMP2 data set. Ulrich Krueger wrote: > I suspect that your TEMP2 dataset ended up with a LRECL=80 > (as requested by the DCB=*.SORT1.SORTIN referback), Nope. It will end up being LRCEL=24 as discussed above. > but you only had 24 bytes of data in each record (as > truncated by the DCB of SORT1.SORTOUT). That is true, but only because the SORT utility normally ensures that the SORTOUT data set will have an LRECL that is consistent with the SORTIN data set (and NOT because of the DCB=*.SORT1.SORTIN referback). The key to understanding all of this is the fact that the DCB=*.SORT1.SORTIN parameter on the SORTOUT DD statement in step SORT2 accomplishes exactly nothing. -- WB -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SV: PCOMM file xfer question (and rant)
FWIW, I got tired of struggling with emulator settings years ago. I use ISPF Work Station Agent (WSA) for moving files between my workstation and the mainframe. It's free, it's fast (way faster than IND$FILE, maybe faster than FTP), it's secure and it's easy to use. You can easily automate it using TSO Rexx, and you can run it in batch so that it doesn't tie up your TSO session. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SV: PCOMM file xfer question (and rant)
No. The PCOMM help panel and examples is all I know about. Just get some sample file names and experiment. The "Test Templates" box on the bottom of the window for defining templates is your friend. It can show you which template is going to handle your file, and what the resulting host name will be. Roger Bolan infoprint.com Boulder, Colorado, USA P Think before you print IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 07/09/2008 07:35:37 AM: > Do You where I can get the syntax rules for > the templates ? > The help in PCOMM have examples but not the > exact syntax. > > > TIA > Thomas Berg -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SV: SV: PCOMM file xfer question (and rant)
Yes, I know the help but there is only examples. And although it's enough (together with the delivered templates) to get it running, I had some req's in the past that didn't worked as expected. I'm just baffled that there doesn't seems to exist any syntax descriptions. Regards, Thomas __ Thomas Berg Specialist IT-U SWEDBANK -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Lizette Koehler Skickat: den 9 juli 2008 19:10 Till: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Ämne: Re: SV: PCOMM file xfer question (and rant) I typically use the HELP function for the templates. It is not a great write up, but sufficient. Go to HELP, then INDEX then locate TEMPLATE. Select MVS/TSO. Lizette >Is it really no one that knows where the syntax rules for the templates >like in "p*=1.*=4.*=5.trs" is described ? > > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SV: PCOMM file xfer question (and rant)
I typically use the HELP function for the templates. It is not a great write up, but sufficient. Go to HELP, then INDEX then locate TEMPLATE. Select MVS/TSO. Lizette >Is it really no one that knows where the syntax rules >for the templates like in "p*=1.*=4.*=5.trs" is described ? > > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SV: PCOMM file xfer question (and rant)
Is it really no one that knows where the syntax rules for the templates like in "p*=1.*=4.*=5.trs" is described ? TIA Thomas Berg __ Thomas Berg Specialist IT-U SWEDBANK -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Thomas Berg Skickat: den 9 juli 2008 15:36 Till: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Ämne: SV: PCOMM file xfer question (and rant) Do You where I can get the syntax rules for the templates ? The help in PCOMM have examples but not the exact syntax. TIA Thomas Berg __ Thomas Berg Specialist IT-U SWEDBANK -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Roger Bolan Skickat: den 8 juli 2008 22:26 Till: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Ämne: Re: PCOMM file xfer question (and rant) ... You can predefine your needs for renaming the files automatically as you upload them. For example, I have a template for PC files with names like *=1.*=2.*=3.*=4.*=5.trs that automatically get renamed to p*=1.*=4.*=5.trs and use the tersed transfer type. ... Roger Bolan infoprint.com Boulder, Colorado, USA P Think before you print -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: South Dakota migrates off mainframe; chaos ensues
> -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:17 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: South Dakota migrates off mainframe; chaos ensues > > From this week's TechTarget magazine(watch for line wrap here) > > > http://www.mail2web.com/cgi-bin/redir.asp?lid=0&newsite=http:/ > /go.techtarget > .com/r/3997279/567145 > > DJ Tinyurl to that site. http://preview.tinyurl.com/6o4oqe -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PCOMM file xfer question (and rant)
I learned a good trick only a few years ago that made PCOMM much faster for me. Apparently it goes to the DNS for name resolution often (like every "packet" of some kind). Changing the definitions of my links for my sessions from using names to the actual numeric IP addresses allows PCOMM to bypass those DNS name resolutions and everything uploaded much faster. You can also go into the General tab in the File Transfer Settings and optimize the Packet Size and File Transfer Timeout for your needs. Roger Bolan infoprint.com Boulder, Colorado, USA P Think before you print IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 07/09/2008 06:36:47 AM: > I used PCOMM for many years, but never really liked it. > Its settings are non-intuitive and it usually chooses the > wrong ones for you. > It can be very, very slow. > It has a tendency to break in the middle of large transfers. > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PCOMM file xfer question (and rant)
Hmm. Maybe it's not age. Maybe they just need better names. :-) Roger Bolan IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 07/08/2008 11:04:38 PM: > Glad I am not the only one who uses PCOMM for ftp I had set up > the templates with the different dcb and space stuff ages ago, and I > am quite happy using it.My problem is that I keep forgetting > what name is what setup and have to go take a look every time. But > that's older age for you :-( > > Regards, Barbara Nitz -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Going unsupported - time to fold?
Right on. The OP asked how to evaluate and quantify the risks of being unsupported. The consensus seems to be that the risks are minimal. The OP can now give some unemotional, technical answers. Let's keep in mind that going 'unsupported' in tinkertoy land is a high risk option because of the frequency of security related updates. He he he. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gerhard Adam Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Going unsupported - time to fold? All this may be true The problem is not whether it is true or not, but whether it is really your responsibility to raise these questions. It's one thing if your input is being solicited, but it becomes problematic when management is being questioned about expenditures and costs by subordinates. As I said, these questions need to be answered, and ultimately they will be. However, all too often, the people raising concerns don't have the complete story (and are not involved in the decisions), so when they begin to push the issue they are perceived as stepping way over the line regarding both their authority and responsibility. >From the general tone of this discussion, we need to take a step back and stop assuming that we're the only people that care what happens in an organization. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Sort Trivia - or What Were You Thinking?
I'll bite ... I suspect that your TEMP2 dataset ended up with a LRECL=80 (as requested by the DCB=*.SORT1.SORTIN referback), but you only had 24 bytes of data in each record (as truncated by the DCB of SORT1.SORTOUT). Regards, Ulrich Krueger -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Kline Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 08:46 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Sort Trivia - or What Were You Thinking? I had to laugh when I received a similar set of JCL from a production job. The input was actually a file, but I've simulated it inline for demonstration purposes. Without running the JCL, can anyone tell how many bytes will be in the output TEMP2 file? Hint: We had DFSORT running with the default option for the TRUNC parameter, and all steps ran with cond code 0. Additional hint: your initial guess will probably be wrong. //BUILD EXEC PGM=IEBGENER //SYSUT1 DD * RECORD 1 PLUS SOME EXTRANEOUS CHARACTERS > 40 RECORD 2 PLUS SOME EXTRANEOUS CHARACTERS > 40 RECORD 3 PLUS SOME EXTRANEOUS CHARACTERS > 40 RECORD 10 PLUS SOME EXTRANEOUS CHARACTERS > 40 RECORD 11 PLUS SOME EXTRANEOUS CHARACTERS > 40 RECORD 12 PLUS SOME EXTRANEOUS CHARACTERS > 40 //SYSUT2 DD DISP=(,PASS),SPACE=(TRK,1), // DSN=&&ORIG, // RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=8000 //SYSINDD DUMMY //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //*-- //* COPY THE FIRST 40 BYTES OF EACH INPUT RECORD //*-- //SORT1 EXEC PGM=SORT //SORTIN DD DISP=(OLD,PASS),DSN=&&ORIG //SORTOUT DD DISP=(,PASS),UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(TRK,1), // DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=24,BLKSIZE=2400), // DSN=&&TEMP1 //SORTMSG DD DUMMY //SYSINDD * SORT FIELDS=(1,8,CH,A) OUTREC FIELDS=(1,40) //*--- //* EXPAND THE RECORDS FROM THE COPY //*--- //SORT2 EXEC PGM=SORT //SORTIN DD DISP=(OLD,PASS),DSN=&&TEMP1 //SORTOUT DD DISP=(,PASS),UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(TRK,1), // DCB=*.SORT1.SORTIN,DSN=&&TEMP2 //SORTMSG DD DUMMY //SYSINDD * SORT FIELDS=(3,7,CH,A) //* -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Going unsupported - time to fold?
It might succeed, if management throws enough manpower and servers into it. But at what expense? Who's going to coordinate the implementation? Who's going to determine and map out all the interactions between datasets and processes? How will data be moved from one process to the next, perhaps on a different server? How many "administrators" will be required to maintain that whole enterprise (polite word for mess?) Are programs to be translated from COBOL to another language? Who's going to train staff? At what expense? I believe that these are all valid questions that need to be answered before any prognosis of success or failure can be made. In my admittedly limited experience, that server farm is going to take a significant increase in manpower just to maintain the status quo; finding and/or making a developer staff is also going to be a major headache. You might find people that know the languages, but they still need to learn about the business. And as others have already noted, security and legal issues will further muddy the waters. All this may be true The problem is not whether it is true or not, but whether it is really your responsibility to raise these questions. It's one thing if your input is being solicited, but it becomes problematic when management is being questioned about expenditures and costs by subordinates. As I said, these questions need to be answered, and ultimately they will be. However, all too often, the people raising concerns don't have the complete story (and are not involved in the decisions), so when they begin to push the issue they are perceived as stepping way over the line regarding both their authority and responsibility. From the general tone of this discussion, we need to take a step back and stop assuming that we're the only people that care what happens in an organization. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: wildcard utilities
Jim, Have you thought about using the Catalog Search Interface within a REXX Exec to retrieve the dataset information you need? Then process the results to create the necessary JCL or allocation statements. Please search the IBM-Main Archives for references to "IGGCSI" or "Catalog Search Interface". Also look at your SYS1.SAMPLIB for IGGCSI.. members. Regards, Ulrich Krueger -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of SUBSCRIBE IBM-MAIN Jim Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 06:03 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: wildcard utilities I have been struggling with a way to use wildcards as a means of not having to know all dataset names that may be created within a day's time. I know you can use wildcards within a IDCAMS using the LISTCAT ENTRIES statement, but what I would really like is to be able to copy all the wildcard datasets to another single dataset for reporting type purposes. We have quite a few products on our mainframe, but I really don't know the best approach or software. Below is a brief example of what I want to accomplish. All the datasets are - ORG of PS, RECFM = FB, LRECL = 133, BLKSIZE = 5985 DISK.TEST.DATASETA DISK.TEST.DATASETB DISK.TEST.DATASETC Hopefully use wildcard of DISK.TEST.** to pick up ALL datasets and then copy to any other name I choose - DISK.BACKUP.DATASETS. Then using that dataset to print out a single report in a viewable format. Thanks in advance for any and all suggestions. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: STARTIO macro doc
I want to do like Flex and Hercules do where the tape is really a file on DASD. -- Go out to the CBTTAPE site and look for AWSTAPE info/programs. Sam Golob can help with information there as well. You don't really need STARTIO, or even EXCP, to emulate that format. AFAIK, Sam uses QSAM for the actual I/O; the devil is in the format details. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Sort Trivia - or What Were You Thinking?
I had to laugh when I received a similar set of JCL from a production job. The input was actually a file, but I've simulated it inline for demonstration purposes. Without running the JCL, can anyone tell how many bytes will be in the output TEMP2 file? Hint: We had DFSORT running with the default option for the TRUNC parameter, and all steps ran with cond code 0. Additional hint: your initial guess will probably be wrong. //BUILD EXEC PGM=IEBGENER //SYSUT1 DD * RECORD 1 PLUS SOME EXTRANEOUS CHARACTERS > 40 RECORD 2 PLUS SOME EXTRANEOUS CHARACTERS > 40 RECORD 3 PLUS SOME EXTRANEOUS CHARACTERS > 40 RECORD 10 PLUS SOME EXTRANEOUS CHARACTERS > 40 RECORD 11 PLUS SOME EXTRANEOUS CHARACTERS > 40 RECORD 12 PLUS SOME EXTRANEOUS CHARACTERS > 40 //SYSUT2 DD DISP=(,PASS),SPACE=(TRK,1), // DSN=&&ORIG, // RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=8000 //SYSINDD DUMMY //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //*-- //* COPY THE FIRST 40 BYTES OF EACH INPUT RECORD //*-- //SORT1 EXEC PGM=SORT //SORTIN DD DISP=(OLD,PASS),DSN=&&ORIG //SORTOUT DD DISP=(,PASS),UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(TRK,1), // DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=24,BLKSIZE=2400), // DSN=&&TEMP1 //SORTMSG DD DUMMY //SYSINDD * SORT FIELDS=(1,8,CH,A) OUTREC FIELDS=(1,40) //*--- //* EXPAND THE RECORDS FROM THE COPY //*--- //SORT2 EXEC PGM=SORT //SORTIN DD DISP=(OLD,PASS),DSN=&&TEMP1 //SORTOUT DD DISP=(,PASS),UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(TRK,1), // DCB=*.SORT1.SORTIN,DSN=&&TEMP2 //SORTMSG DD DUMMY //SYSINDD * SORT FIELDS=(3,7,CH,A) //* -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA-View
On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 16:12:41 +0100, Gerry Anstey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >As already said we WANT to be able to mount but would like the choice of >whether to mount. Is there a way? eg in our previous product, in this >situation it would pause and give you the chance to Not do it. > I think your only choice is to disable it or educate users to not use "S" when they see the location is on tape.I think forcing a batch job for all tape recalls (virtual or not) is such not a bad thing, but I guess it would be a nice enhancement to be prompted. Create a DAR with CA. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Going unsupported - time to fold?
- FWIW, I pretty much agree with you. I'm not terribly comfortable with the "Let it fail" philosophy, though; I would feel obligated to try to save the company/agency some pain if I could do it simply by pointing out some potential red flags I think that it would be a grave disservice not to wave those red flags and at least make my concerns known, in writing whereever possible. If the management team fails to address them, I can at least have the satisfaction of knowing that I tried to prevent, or at least minimize, the scale of the disaster. It can be a very career-limiting move to thumb your nose and shout "I told you so", but you can always think it. :-) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA-View
You can't do anything with the product as it is, but you may be able to do something by adding functionality to Lionel Dyck's CAVXTRT http://www.lbdsoftware.com/ispftools.html Paul -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gerry Anstey Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: CA-View As already said we WANT to be able to mount but would like the choice of whether to mount. Is there a way? eg in our previous product, in this situation it would pause and give you the chance to Not do it. Mark did you not read what I wrote? I ask because you are normally very attentive. ___ Atos Origin and Atos Consulting are trading names used by the Atos Origin group. The following trading entities are registered in England and Wales: Atos Origin IT Services UK Limited (registered number 01245534) and Atos Consulting Limited (registered number 04312380). The registered office for each is at 4 Triton Square, Regents Place, London, NW1 3HG. This e-mail and the documents attached are confidential and intended solely for the addressee, and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you receive this e-mail in error, you are not authorised to copy, disclose, use or retain it. Please notify the sender immediately and delete this email from your systems. As emails may be intercepted, amended or lost, they are not secure. Atos Origin therefore can accept no liability for any errors or their content. Although Atos Origin endeavours to maintain a virus-free network, we do not warrant that this transmission is virus-free and can accept no liability for any damages resulting from any virus transmitted. The risks are deemed to be accepted by everyone who communicates with Atos Origin by email. ___ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: STARTIO macro doc
Hal, you're absolutely correct in what you say. It's quite easy to convert JCL that reads tapes to reading files off of DASD. But for testing and developing things that actually read from tapes it is better if nothing changes. And I like the way Flex and Hercules does it. Of course I've given up on this idea because I'm not ready for something this difficult (yet). And other companies already have such products. I'll have to wait and dream up another idea. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hal Merritt Sent: 9. heinäkuuta 2008 18:06 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: STARTIO macro doc Still a little confused. What are you trying to do? If all you want to do is read a file, then just do it. Under z/os, the device type is of no particular interest to the application program. Z/os tracks the device type for you and uses appropriate I/O routines automatically. That is, a given file can exist on any flavor of tape, virtual tape, DASD, or whatever. The application program need only specify the file (dataset) name in the JCL or in the dynamic allocation interface. Assuming the file layout is the same, then the application program can read from all of those devices and remain completely unaware and uncaring. If you want to create a file, then just specify the device type you want to use for this specific instance in your JCL. Again, z/os handles all the details for you. Consider that 'tape' actually covers a very large number of possible device types, each with peculiar requirements. Some 'tape' units may actually be DASD under the covers. But, again, typically this is of no concern. HTH -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Going unsupported - time to fold?
I hate to rain on anyone's parade, but all the posts notwithstanding, the problem here isn't failure, but the fear that it might actually succeed. If the project is as doomed to failure as many have been saying, then so what! Let it fail. It might be a difficult time and a humbling experience for some, but in the end the original system will be vindicated. However, I suspect that the real concern is that it might actually work. Maybe not as well ... maybe without all the bells and whistles, but in the end if it does tha job, then management will have been vindicated in the decision. Doom and gloom is not a way to convince management of the proper course. If the project can succeed, then you'd better get on board now, because the train is leaving the station. If the project is doomed to fail, then that will also be apparent soon enough. -- It might succeed, if management throws enough manpower and servers into it. But at what expense? Who's going to coordinate the implementation? Who's going to determine and map out all the interactions between datasets and processes? How will data be moved from one process to the next, perhaps on a different server? How many "administrators" will be required to maintain that whole enterprise (polite word for mess?) Are programs to be translated from COBOL to another language? Who's going to train staff? At what expense? I believe that these are all valid questions that need to be answered before any prognosis of success or failure can be made. In my admittedly limited experience, that server farm is going to take a significant increase in manpower just to maintain the status quo; finding and/or making a developer staff is also going to be a major headache. You might find people that know the languages, but they still need to learn about the business. And as others have already noted, security and legal issues will further muddy the waters. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Going unsupported - time to fold?
I would argue that the better attitude is "make it work". You are going to be under the gun no matter which way you choose. If you are making an honest effort to 'make it so', then it is far more difficult to be a target if/when the blood starts flowing. My $0.02 (before taxes) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gerhard Adam Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 8:28 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Going unsupported - time to fold? > FWIW, I pretty much agree with you. I'm not terribly comfortable with > the "Let it fail" philosophy, though; I would feel obligated to try to > save the company/agency some pain if I could do it simply by pointing > out some potential red flags. > "Let it fail" is not a philosphy, but rather it is an attempt to let decision-makers be responsible for the decisions they make. In the scenario described there is apparently a management decision and a project manager that believe that the z/series processor can be migrated in the next 6 months. It would appear that the onus is on them to deliver. >From their perspective, there is no "pain" from which to save them. Any attempt to convince them otherwise will only reflect negatively on the "advice-giver". Besides ... what makes everyone so sure that they're wrong? Adam NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA-MIM/Integrity abend.
I have always been advised against giving information to users, operators, programmers, etc. on the grounds that they were all dummies. It was said that they could not be trained, especially if it was perceived that they should already know. Further, it was contended, giving the user-dummies information would only make them dangerous. I have never followed that advice. I've worked with hundreds of people who were alleged to be too stupid to learn to do things right. Every one of them was better off for having things explained to them. In my experience, the user-dummy always benefits from whatever education you can give him. The organization always benefits as well. I always encouraged people to talk with their co-workers or immediate supervisors first, keeping myself as a last resort. And I was very tight-lipped about anything concerning security. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA-View
The only option that I am aware of to do what you ask is to disallow online mounts, and make the user submit a batch job from the CA-VIEW interface to run the job to reload the output to disk. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gerry Anstey Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: CA-View As already said we WANT to be able to mount but would like the choice of whether to mount. Is there a way? eg in our previous product, in this situation it would pause and give you the chance to Not do it. Mark did you not read what I wrote? I ask because you are normally very attentive. This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How long to install a ServerPac
I usually did them alone, in about 6 weeks. Neal Eckhardt wrote: I've done several of these with little or no help. I was wondering what most companies estimate it takes from the receipt of tapes, to the first production IPL. Please answer with number of people on the project, and approximate number of weeks to complete the project. I know what I tell people a project like this should take, but I would be interested in knowing how far off I am. Neal -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA-View
As already said we WANT to be able to mount but would like the choice of whether to mount. Is there a way? eg in our previous product, in this situation it would pause and give you the chance to Not do it. Mark did you not read what I wrote? I ask because you are normally very attentive. GA Mark Zelden <[EMAIL PROTECTED] CHNA.COM> To Sent by: IBM IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Mainframe cc Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject .EDU> Re: CA-View 09/07/2008 14:14 Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU> As already said... Turn mount off then if a person selects an archived report they get a "no mount authority" error message. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 11:27:38 +0100, Gerry Anstey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Paul, thanks, we do want to allow tape mounts but would like somehow to be >given some sort of choice of offline processing when someone selects a job >that is on Virtual tape. Our users use S or ? to select the job and by then >it is too late to avoid the terminal lock for it seems like 10mins or more. >Before CA-view we had AVRS, in a similar situation it would just come back >and say the job was archived and you could choose retrieve or not. Quite >often when selecting a job a user has no idea that it is in fact archived. > >any ideas anyone? > >Gerry > > > > "Beesley, Paul" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > SORIGIN.COM> To > Sent by: IBM IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Mainframe cc > Discussion List > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject > .EDU> Re: CA-View > > > 09/07/2008 10:45 > > > Please respond to > IBM Mainframe > Discussion List > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > .EDU> > > > > > > >Gerry > >We don't allow tape mounts from CA-View due to the length of time taken >to do a mount ( although in these days of virtual tape it's a lot >quicker ). >Instead, users use the J line command to generate a batch job to print >the output ( or L to reload it to disk ). > >From the CA-View user manual : >For all TSO users (both native TSO and ISPF/SPF), whether you are >authorized for online tape mounts is determined by how your system >administrator configured your account with the TSO ACCOUNT command. >Alternatively, your site may choose to disable all online tape mounts >for >Unicenter CA-View with the MOUNT=NO option. > >hth. >Regards > >Paul > >-Original Message- >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >Behalf Of Gerry Anstey >Sent: 09 July 2008 10:21 >To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU >Subject: CA-View > >All, > >We have CA-View, when you select a job that has been archived to tape it >has this annoying habit of going off and getting it leaving the terminal >locked for a long time. Anyone know of a way of getting it to give you >the choice? Some sort of option somewhere? I have RTFM'd but if it's >there it's well hidden. > >thank >Gerry Anstey > > >Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > > > >Generally, this communication is for informational purposes only >and it is not intended as an offer or solici
Re: STARTIO macro doc
Still a little confused. What are you trying to do? If all you want to do is read a file, then just do it. Under z/os, the device type is of no particular interest to the application program. Z/os tracks the device type for you and uses appropriate I/O routines automatically. That is, a given file can exist on any flavor of tape, virtual tape, DASD, or whatever. The application program need only specify the file (dataset) name in the JCL or in the dynamic allocation interface. Assuming the file layout is the same, then the application program can read from all of those devices and remain completely unaware and uncaring. If you want to create a file, then just specify the device type you want to use for this specific instance in your JCL. Again, z/os handles all the details for you. Consider that 'tape' actually covers a very large number of possible device types, each with peculiar requirements. Some 'tape' units may actually be DASD under the covers. But, again, typically this is of no concern. HTH -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lindy Mayfield Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 5:31 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: STARTIO macro doc I want to do like Flex and Hercules do where the tape is really a file on DASD. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hal Merritt Sent: 9. heinäkuuta 2008 1:21 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: STARTIO macro doc Consider device redirection using SMS. That is, when an application calls for tape it is transparently redirected to DASD. AFAIK, 'virtual tape' is still physical tape. It is just a way to put many logical tape volumes on one physical tape volume in a way that is transparent to the application. Or am I not understanding what you want to do? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lindy Mayfield Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 5:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: STARTIO macro doc Does anyone have (or know a link to) any documentation on STARTIO? Google gave up a hint that there was a SHARE presentation on it, but no links that I could find. I'm still thinking how one might create a virtual tape on DASD device on z/OS. Maybe STARTIO is the way to do it. Thanks, Lindy NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: wildcard utilities
You can do something like this:
HLQ = 'DISK.TEST'
X = OUTTRAP("CATLINE.",9,"NOCONCAT")
"LISTC LEVEL("HLQ")"
X = OUTTRAP("OFF")
DO LOGLINE = 1 TO CATLINE.0
DSN = WORD(CATLINE.LOGLINE,3)
SAY DSN
END
Note the limit on the number of entries returned (100k-1).
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Behalf Of SUBSCRIBE IBM-MAIN Jim
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Subject: wildcard utilities
I have been struggling with a way to use wildcards as a means of not
having
to know all dataset names that may be created within a day's time. I
know
you can use wildcards within a IDCAMS using the LISTCAT ENTRIES
statement, but what I would really like is to be able to copy all the
wildcard
datasets to another single dataset for reporting type purposes. We have
quite a few products on our mainframe, but I really don't know the best
approach or software. Below is a brief example of what I want to
accomplish.
All the datasets are - ORG of PS, RECFM = FB, LRECL = 133, BLKSIZE =
5985
DISK.TEST.DATASETA
DISK.TEST.DATASETB
DISK.TEST.DATASETC
Hopefully use wildcard of DISK.TEST.** to pick up ALL datasets and then
copy to any other name I choose - DISK.BACKUP.DATASETS. Then using that
dataset to print out a single report in a viewable format.
Thanks in advance for any and all suggestions.
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Re: How to change the ISPF code page?
Lindy Mayfield wrote: [snip] CHARACTER SETS 001B8185 8200070C 0700 02B90025 0100F103 C30136 A perusal of the 3270 Data Stream Reference shows that '0025' in the above string is the code page number. Your emulator is passing back code page 37 (decimal) on the RPQ response. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: wildcard utilities
use wildcards as a means of not having to know all dataset names that may be created within a day's time. You may want to look at DFDSS or FDR. You can do a TYPRUN=NORUN option (DSS) to simply get a list or do the copy/move. both products have wild cards as well as selection criteria. Jack Kelly 202-502-2390 (Office) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: LOOKAT ICH408I
Interesting - I used the web search for 1.7 and also received the cert message. When I backed up and looked at the book contents, the cert version was the last listed (Topic 1.4.59). I guess LOOKAT gets as confused by some of the messages as we do. Comforting to know we humans are still smarter than the average PC :-D -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 8:14 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: LOOKAT ICH408I On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 07:41:05 -0500, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Just for instructional purposes, I wrote a job step using an undefined >HLQ that failed with: > > ICH408I ... > INSUFFICIENT ACCESS AUTHORITY > FROM CATALOG.**.MASTER (G) > >... and tried LOOKAT ICH408I. > >I get: > >#1.4.48 "z/OS V1R7.0 Security Server RACF Messages and Codes" > ___ > >1.4.48 ICH408I > > > ICH408I NOT AUTHORIZED TO EXPORT DIGITAL CERTIFICATES > WAD. Look up the message in the RACF Messages and Codes manual. Is that lookat from the internet? I get a different result. There are 81 different flavors and I get the first one. I invoke a internet LOOKAT search with a Vista TN3270 macro and a keyboard sequence (ctl+left mouse). Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: wildcard utilities
Jim, > I have been struggling with a way to use wildcards as a means of not having > to know all dataset names that may be created within a day's time. I know I am not sure I understand what you are trying to do but I would use dcollect to gather information on dasd datasets and extract similar data from your tape management product if I wanted to generate a list of datasets created yesterday or whatever date. Regards, John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: WLM and skip clock
Hi Mark, thank you for your reply I read it in redbook as well but as you said there's no 'direct' reference to skip clock concept, only a generic delay (skip) as it was considered useless to help that workload due to unattainable goals. Best regards Max Scarpa -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: WLM and skip clock
In some past posts, while discussing about WLM, someone introduced 'skip clock' concept to describe behaviour of wlm when goals are not reached, for instance because they are quite high and there isn't enough to boost them. In this case wlm ignores them (or leaves them with reached velocity) until skip clock expires (so I was told). Is this skip clock concept described somewhere (manuals, papers ) ? From the WLM Services: "They are also skipped when a potential receiver's skip clock hasn't expired. If a receiver is assessed and all actions to help it are rejected, a skip clock (counter) is set and the service class period will not be selected as a receiver again until the skip clock expires." -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: WLM and skip clock
Hi Adam I've found it, thank you very much Max Scarpa -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: LOOKAT ICH408I
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 7:41 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: LOOKAT ICH408I > > Just for instructional purposes, I wrote a job step using an undefined > HLQ that failed with: > > ICH408I ... >INSUFFICIENT ACCESS AUTHORITY >FROM CATALOG.**.MASTER (G) > > ... and tried LOOKAT ICH408I. RACF's ICH408I is like unto IDCAMS' IDC3009 message. It covers a multitule of generic messages. WAD, I guess. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: WLM and skip clock
On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 08:12:39 -0500, Max Scarpa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >(Cross posted) > >Esteemed listers > >In some past posts, while discussing about WLM, someone introduced 'skip >clock' concept to describe behaviour of wlm when goals are not reached, for >instance because they are quite high and there isn't enough to boost them. >In this case wlm ignores them (or leaves them with reached velocity) until >skip clock expires (so I was told). > >Is this skip clock concept described somewhere (manuals, papers ) ? > Other than a mention of it in the SMF 99 description, I don't think so. Many of the WLM internals are not. I remember seeing something about this in the (now old) "OS/390 Workload Manager Implementation and Exploitation" Redbook (SG24-5326-00)... although it didn't say it was the skip clock. The same thing is in the current Redook "System Programmers Guide to: Workload Manager" (SG24-6472-03): "Periods for certain service classes are not candidates for being a receiver because in the past they were defined as receivers without much improvement in their PI. Those service class periods are skipped for a while to avoid wasting effort. This usually only happens when the installation sets a very difficult goal." Regards, Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SV: PCOMM file xfer question (and rant)
Do You where I can get the syntax rules for the templates ? The help in PCOMM have examples but not the exact syntax. TIA Thomas Berg __ Thomas Berg Specialist IT-U SWEDBANK -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Roger Bolan Skickat: den 8 juli 2008 22:26 Till: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Ämne: Re: PCOMM file xfer question (and rant) Like most things, it is easy once you know the trick. I use PCOMM all the time for uploading and downloading to z/VM and z/OS systems. I tried FTP and WSA but PCOMM is easier once you have it set up. First, I have my customized toolbar. I can't remember if the default one has icons on it for upload and download, but mine does. Click the upload icon, and then click Options at the bottom of the "Send files to Host" window. Then you can define named sets of transfer options for all your different systems. So, for MVS/TSO, I have predefined everything I commonly use. For example, I have a transfer type for MVS/TSO called "tersed" which automatically preallocates a file for me with recfm=fixed lrecl=1024 blksize=27648 and the right number of primary and secondary cylinders. Now, back out of Options and click the Templates button. I really like this. You can predefine your needs for renaming the files automatically as you upload them. For example, I have a template for PC files with names like *=1.*=2.*=3.*=4.*=5.trs that automatically get renamed to p*=1.*=4.*=5.trs and use the tersed transfer type. When I upload files from a customer that have names of the pattern nn,xxx,yyy.name1.name2.trs where nn, xxx, and yyy are all numeric only and therefore illegal on MVS, I get pnn.name1.name2.trs as a tersed file on the host. So now I can select whole bunches of these from a folder and upload them all at once with no manual renaming and no manual pre allocating of files and no additional SITE commands to issue. Once you define the transfer types and templates you use all the time, you can upload or download any number of files with just a few clicks and have all that renaming and DCB attribute stuff taken care of for you. Roger Bolan infoprint.com Boulder, Colorado, USA P Think before you print -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: LOOKAT ICH408I
If the HLQ is not defined the data set will be cataloged in the master catalog. Your ID is not authorized to update the master catalog. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 7:41 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: LOOKAT ICH408I Just for instructional purposes, I wrote a job step using an undefined HLQ that failed with: ICH408I ... INSUFFICIENT ACCESS AUTHORITY FROM CATALOG.**.MASTER (G) ... and tried LOOKAT ICH408I. I get: #1.4.48 "z/OS V1R7.0 Security Server RACF Messages and Codes" -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
User/Ref Manual for CSS
Hello all, Currently I am working on a batch service to extract Abend-aid DDIO Files. However I could not find any documentation on this...Does any one have the User/Ref Manual for Compuware Shared Services ( CSS ) ..? Appreciate if someone could share it... Thanks, Shaja -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Sharing catalog among systems,benefits or trouble?
On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 08:00:25 -0500, Arthur Gutowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Very similar level of sharing here. > >Bottom line: It can be done if you're careful, understanding and mitigating the >risks. RESERVE/RELEASE has been around for a very long time, and while not >the most efficient for throughput, it is iron-clad integrity. > I obviously agree (I think you were commenting on my post when you wrote "very similar sharing here"), but it is far from iron-clad. For example, RESERVE won't keep 2 people from updating the same PDS (or PDS member) from different sysplexes. But even though our entire group (7) install and maintain z/OS and ISV products, only one person will be working on a particular product or z/OS maintenance at a time so there has never been an issue with sharing the "maintenance environment" across the sysplexes. Regards, Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: want to read a dataset in use
On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 00:31:34 -0400, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: > >Thinking outside the box, what happens if I define an ALIAS for the >top level index (INDEX2 as an alias of INDEX1) or the full dataset >name (INDEX.FILE2 as an alias of INDEX.FILE1) and try to access via >the alias'ed name. Will it spot the duplicate usage or do the ENQ on >the Alias'ed name and thus allow me o get away with it? Also, if I am > Empirically, the initiator ENQs on the alias name at the beginning of the job, and attempts to allocate (thus ENQ) on the real name at the beginning of the step. If the latter does not succeed immediately, it does not wait for it to become available, but fails with a JCL error. >... Also, if I am >APF authorized, I can allocate the dataset bypassing the ENQ and thus >open it to use to write a duplicate/cloned copy which can then be >scanned in lieu of the original. > Sounds like it's not Shmuel's dog. OTOH, z/OS Unix files work great. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA-MIM/Integrity abend.
Well, just got off the phone with CA support. They were very helpful.
For now, I plan to run with GDIF=OFF. That will allow the "contention
management" (ECMF) that requeues jobs if a dataset is not available that
we want. It also leaves EDIF ("don't let the binder corrupt my source
pds") function running as well. We may change from using GRS to MIM, but
that is for another day.
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Re: WLM and skip clock
In some past posts, while discussing about WLM, someone introduced 'skip clock' concept to describe behaviour of wlm when goals are not reached, for instance because they are quite high and there isn't enough to boost them. In this case wlm ignores them (or leaves them with reached velocity) until skip clock expires (so I was told). Is this skip clock concept described somewhere (manuals, papers ) ? Check out the WLM Services manual in the Chapter "Using SMF Record Type 99". It's not discussed heavily, but it indicates its use. Adam -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
