date:20210609

Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread Itschak Mugzach

So delete member isrprof from the ispprof library and let iPad create a new
one from isptlib. Btw, try iPad opt 3 to see the isrprof values or just.
Browse the dataset member

בתאריך יום ה׳, 10 ביוני 2021 ב-2:06 מאת Joe Monk :

> Yes there is a relationship between ZSTART and ISPSTART.
>
> Have the user try ISPSTART PANEL(ISR@PRIM) NEWAPPL(ISR).
>
> The doc says about ZSTART:
>
> "ISPF attempts to retrieve and validate profile variable ZSTART. If this
> variable is valid (of the format ISPF|| command delimiter|| comand stack)
> ISPF executes the command stack contained in the variable as though entered
> from the primary panel. If ISPF cannot retrieve the variable or the
> variable does not start ISPF|| command delimiter then ISPF displays the
> primary panel."
>
> Joe
>
> On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 5:40 PM Billy Ashton 
> wrote:
>
> > That is correct. We tried the standard PDF and ISPF, and they only
> > produced the single session with the primary option menu. Only ISPSTART
> > caused the trouble. I haven't looked in the doc to see if there is some
> > sort of cozy relationship between ISPSTART and the ZSTART profile
> > variable, but it appears so.
> >
> > Billy
> > -- Original Message --
> > From: "Seymour J Metz" 
> > To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
> > Sent: 6/9/2021 4:18:18 PM
> > Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing
> >
> > >PDF and ISPF won't give you the same defaults as ISPSTART, so it
> > definitely matters whether the OP types ISPSTART or an alias of ISRPCP.
> > >
> > >
> > >--
> > >Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> > >http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
> > >
> > >
> > >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on
> behalf
> > of Itschak Mugzach [0305158ad67d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu]
> > >Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 3:11 PM
> > >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > >Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing
> > >
> > >Does this happen with all ispf aliases (PFG ISPF, etc.)? What happens if
> > he
> > >starts ispf with a different APPL name (aka NEWAPPL(xxx))?
> > >
> > >ITschak
> > >
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> > >
> > >On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 9:59 PM Seymour J Metz  wrote:
> > >
> > >>  ISRPCP calls ISPSTART under the covers; they are both commands and
> are
> > >>  either in the LPA or the link list.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>  --
> > >>  Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> > >>http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
> > >>
> > >>  
> > >>  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on
> > behalf
> > >>  of Billy Ashton [bill00ash...@gmail.com]
> > >>  Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 11:13 AM
> > >>  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > >>  Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing
> > >>
> > >>  The TSO logon script dumps the user to a READY prompt. Then the user
> > >>  selects either a specific application command for special processing
> or
> > >>  ISPSTART to get into ISPF. I don't see a special ISPSTART Clist/Rexx
> > >>  program in his Sysproc or Sysexec, so there must be something
> happening
> > >>  with ISPSTART.
> > >>
> > >>  Billy
> > >>
> > >>  -- Original Message --
> > >>  From: "Carmen Vitullo" 
> > >>  To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
> > >>  Sent: 6/9/2021 11:06:01 AM
> > >>  Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing
> > >>
> > >>  >Maybe the session manager - startup logon script?
> > >>  >
> > >>  >I recall when I started at my current job the systems folks that
> > manage
> > >>  TPX thought it was a great idea to start a script that puts your
> > session in
> > >>  split screen, one screen SDSF, one ISPF edit
> > >>  >
> > >>  >
> > >>  >Carmen
> > >>  >
> > >>  >
> > >>  >On 6/9/2021 9:58 AM, Billy Ashton wrote:
> > >>  >>Hello all...I don't know if there is an ISPF list, but hope you can
> > help
> > >>  me here.
> > >>  >>
> > >>  >>I have a user that is having some strange things happening when he
> > logs
> > >>  into TSO and goes into ISPF. For example, while everyone else starts
> > ISPF
> > >>  and has one window open, this user has 5 split screens defined and
> > named,
> > >>  but he has no idea how.
> > >>  >>
> > >>  >>Can someone tell me if there is a way to

Re: Format SMF record 99

2021-06-09 Thread kekronbekron

Hi again JCarlos,

Don't know if my private mail reached your inbox, so sending through the list.
Let me know if you're interested in processing this off-mainframe.
I can try to help w/ both the parser & any analysis script(s) you'll need once 
the data is parsed.

- KB
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐

On Wednesday, June 9th, 2021 at 2:08 AM, Juan Carlos Godinez Pando 
 wrote:

> Martin
>
> Now, i'm working with smf99 subtype 1 and 8
>
> Regards
>
> JCarlos
>
> De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU en nombre de 
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> Enviado: martes, 8 de junio de 2021 07:35
>
> Para: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>
> Asunto: Re: Format SMF record 99
>
> The OP didn't specify which subtype(s). For example, 99-14 is very
>
> different from 99-6. And, having worked with 99-14 a fair amount, it has
>
> quite a complicated layout.
>
> Cheers, Martin
>
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> From: kekronbekron 02dee3fcae33-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu
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> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
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> Date: 08/06/2021 07:18
>
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Format SMF record 99
>
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> Hi,
>
> I can put one together if you like.
>
> Which subtypes and which fields are you interested in?
>
> To get anything meaningful out of the records, if there's some madman-like
>
> calculations required on top of just parsing the records (like finding CPU
>
> use etc. in SMF 30)... then it's stil possible but it'll take longer.
>
> Just printing out the fields as is (or with some basic calculations) will
>
> be simple.
>
> -   KB
>
> Original Message
>
> On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 10:05 AM, Juan Carlos Godinez Pando
>
> jcarlosgodin...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone
> >
> > Somebody have a tool to help me to format smf record 99, i have z15 and
>
> z/Os 2.3
>
> > Juan Carlos Godinez Pando
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Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread Joe Monk

Yes there is a relationship between ZSTART and ISPSTART.

Have the user try ISPSTART PANEL(ISR@PRIM) NEWAPPL(ISR).

The doc says about ZSTART:

"ISPF attempts to retrieve and validate profile variable ZSTART. If this
variable is valid (of the format ISPF|| command delimiter|| comand stack)
ISPF executes the command stack contained in the variable as though entered
from the primary panel. If ISPF cannot retrieve the variable or the
variable does not start ISPF|| command delimiter then ISPF displays the
primary panel."

Joe

On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 5:40 PM Billy Ashton  wrote:

> That is correct. We tried the standard PDF and ISPF, and they only
> produced the single session with the primary option menu. Only ISPSTART
> caused the trouble. I haven't looked in the doc to see if there is some
> sort of cozy relationship between ISPSTART and the ZSTART profile
> variable, but it appears so.
>
> Billy
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Seymour J Metz" 
> To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
> Sent: 6/9/2021 4:18:18 PM
> Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing
>
> >PDF and ISPF won't give you the same defaults as ISPSTART, so it
> definitely matters whether the OP types ISPSTART or an alias of ISRPCP.
> >
> >
> >--
> >Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> >http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
> >
> >
> >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf
> of Itschak Mugzach [0305158ad67d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu]
> >Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 3:11 PM
> >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> >Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing
> >
> >Does this happen with all ispf aliases (PFG ISPF, etc.)? What happens if
> he
> >starts ispf with a different APPL name (aka NEWAPPL(xxx))?
> >
> >ITschak
> >
> >*| **Itschak Mugzach | Director | SecuriTeam Software **|** IronSphere
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 9:59 PM Seymour J Metz  wrote:
> >
> >>  ISRPCP calls ISPSTART under the covers; they are both commands and are
> >>  either in the LPA or the link list.
> >>
> >>
> >>  --
> >>  Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> >>http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
> >>
> >>  
> >>  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on
> behalf
> >>  of Billy Ashton [bill00ash...@gmail.com]
> >>  Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 11:13 AM
> >>  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> >>  Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing
> >>
> >>  The TSO logon script dumps the user to a READY prompt. Then the user
> >>  selects either a specific application command for special processing or
> >>  ISPSTART to get into ISPF. I don't see a special ISPSTART Clist/Rexx
> >>  program in his Sysproc or Sysexec, so there must be something happening
> >>  with ISPSTART.
> >>
> >>  Billy
> >>
> >>  -- Original Message --
> >>  From: "Carmen Vitullo" 
> >>  To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
> >>  Sent: 6/9/2021 11:06:01 AM
> >>  Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing
> >>
> >>  >Maybe the session manager - startup logon script?
> >>  >
> >>  >I recall when I started at my current job the systems folks that
> manage
> >>  TPX thought it was a great idea to start a script that puts your
> session in
> >>  split screen, one screen SDSF, one ISPF edit
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >Carmen
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >On 6/9/2021 9:58 AM, Billy Ashton wrote:
> >>  >>Hello all...I don't know if there is an ISPF list, but hope you can
> help
> >>  me here.
> >>  >>
> >>  >>I have a user that is having some strange things happening when he
> logs
> >>  into TSO and goes into ISPF. For example, while everyone else starts
> ISPF
> >>  and has one window open, this user has 5 split screens defined and
> named,
> >>  but he has no idea how.
> >>  >>
> >>  >>Can someone tell me if there is a way to trace all the commands that
> get
> >>  processed when he enters ISPSTART, or is there some magic way to have
> >>  commands like multiple split screens issued automatically?
> >>  >>
> >>  >>Thank you for your kind thoughts!
> >>  >>
> >>  >>Billy
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>
> >>--
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Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread Billy Ashton

That is correct. We tried the standard PDF and ISPF, and they only 
produced the single session with the primary option menu. Only ISPSTART 
caused the trouble. I haven't looked in the doc to see if there is some 
sort of cozy relationship between ISPSTART and the ZSTART profile 
variable, but it appears so.


Billy
-- Original Message --
From: "Seymour J Metz" 
To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
Sent: 6/9/2021 4:18:18 PM
Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing


PDF and ISPF won't give you the same defaults as ISPSTART, so it definitely 
matters whether the OP types ISPSTART or an alias of ISRPCP.


--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3


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Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 3:11 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing

Does this happen with all ispf aliases (PFG ISPF, etc.)? What happens if he
starts ispf with a different APPL name (aka NEWAPPL(xxx))?

ITschak

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On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 9:59 PM Seymour J Metz  wrote:


 ISRPCP calls ISPSTART under the covers; they are both commands and are
 either in the LPA or the link list.


 --
 Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

 
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf
 of Billy Ashton [bill00ash...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 11:13 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing

 The TSO logon script dumps the user to a READY prompt. Then the user
 selects either a specific application command for special processing or
 ISPSTART to get into ISPF. I don't see a special ISPSTART Clist/Rexx
 program in his Sysproc or Sysexec, so there must be something happening
 with ISPSTART.

 Billy

 -- Original Message --
 From: "Carmen Vitullo" 
 To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
 Sent: 6/9/2021 11:06:01 AM
 Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing

 >Maybe the session manager - startup logon script?
 >
 >I recall when I started at my current job the systems folks that manage
 TPX thought it was a great idea to start a script that puts your session in
 split screen, one screen SDSF, one ISPF edit
 >
 >
 >Carmen
 >
 >
 >On 6/9/2021 9:58 AM, Billy Ashton wrote:
 >>Hello all...I don't know if there is an ISPF list, but hope you can help
 me here.
 >>
 >>I have a user that is having some strange things happening when he logs
 into TSO and goes into ISPF. For example, while everyone else starts ISPF
 and has one window open, this user has 5 split screens defined and named,
 but he has no idea how.
 >>
 >>Can someone tell me if there is a way to trace all the commands that get
 processed when he enters ISPSTART, or is there some magic way to have
 commands like multiple split screens issued automatically?
 >>
 >>Thank you for your kind thoughts!
 >>
 >>Billy
 >>
 >>
 >>--
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Re: [External] Back in the Dark ages

2021-06-09 Thread Allan Staller

Classification: Confidential

JSF, SAR (CA/VIEW),  INFOPAC, $AVRS (Previously mentioned,
CA/SPOOL,  JES2 Spool OFFLOAD, JHS,  .

Several others that don't immediately come to mind

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There are many of them. Some of my clients use products from mackinney.

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On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 9:35 PM Pommier, Rex  wrote:

> $AVRS by Macro4?
>
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> Back in the dark ages when I worked for JPMChase in Houston, we had a
> product that would SPOOL all execute JCL into its SPOOL Volumes and
> then archive that data.
>
> Anyone remember a product like that?
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Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread ITschak Mugzach

Shmuel, this is exactly the purpose of my question. Finding the root cause,
whether is is the command, the APPL or something else.

ITschak

בתאריך יום ד׳, 9 ביוני 2021 ב-23:19 מאת Seymour J Metz :

> PDF and ISPF won't give you the same defaults as ISPSTART, so it
> definitely matters whether the OP types ISPSTART or an alias of ISRPCP.
>
>
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> Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 3:11 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing
>
> Does this happen with all ispf aliases (PFG ISPF, etc.)? What happens if he
> starts ispf with a different APPL name (aka NEWAPPL(xxx))?
>
> ITschak
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> On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 9:59 PM Seymour J Metz  wrote:
>
> > ISRPCP calls ISPSTART under the covers; they are both commands and are
> > either in the LPA or the link list.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
> >
> > 
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf
> > of Billy Ashton [bill00ash...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 11:13 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing
> >
> > The TSO logon script dumps the user to a READY prompt. Then the user
> > selects either a specific application command for special processing or
> > ISPSTART to get into ISPF. I don't see a special ISPSTART Clist/Rexx
> > program in his Sysproc or Sysexec, so there must be something happening
> > with ISPSTART.
> >
> > Billy
> >
> > -- Original Message --
> > From: "Carmen Vitullo" 
> > To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
> > Sent: 6/9/2021 11:06:01 AM
> > Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing
> >
> > >Maybe the session manager - startup logon script?
> > >
> > >I recall when I started at my current job the systems folks that manage
> > TPX thought it was a great idea to start a script that puts your session
> in
> > split screen, one screen SDSF, one ISPF edit
> > >
> > >
> > >Carmen
> > >
> > >
> > >On 6/9/2021 9:58 AM, Billy Ashton wrote:
> > >>Hello all...I don't know if there is an ISPF list, but hope you can
> help
> > me here.
> > >>
> > >>I have a user that is having some strange things happening when he logs
> > into TSO and goes into ISPF. For example, while everyone else starts ISPF
> > and has one window open, this user has 5 split screens defined and named,
> > but he has no idea how.
> > >>
> > >>Can someone tell me if there is a way to trace all the commands that
> get
> > processed when he enters ISPSTART, or is there some magic way to have
> > commands like multiple split screens issued automatically?
> > >>
> > >>Thank you for your kind thoughts!
> > >>
> > >>Billy
> > >>
> > >>
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Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread Seymour J Metz

PDF and ISPF won't give you the same defaults as ISPSTART, so it definitely 
matters whether the OP types ISPSTART or an alias of ISRPCP.


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To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing

Does this happen with all ispf aliases (PFG ISPF, etc.)? What happens if he
starts ispf with a different APPL name (aka NEWAPPL(xxx))?

ITschak

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On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 9:59 PM Seymour J Metz  wrote:

> ISRPCP calls ISPSTART under the covers; they are both commands and are
> either in the LPA or the link list.
>
>
> --
> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
>
> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf
> of Billy Ashton [bill00ash...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 11:13 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing
>
> The TSO logon script dumps the user to a READY prompt. Then the user
> selects either a specific application command for special processing or
> ISPSTART to get into ISPF. I don't see a special ISPSTART Clist/Rexx
> program in his Sysproc or Sysexec, so there must be something happening
> with ISPSTART.
>
> Billy
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Carmen Vitullo" 
> To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
> Sent: 6/9/2021 11:06:01 AM
> Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing
>
> >Maybe the session manager - startup logon script?
> >
> >I recall when I started at my current job the systems folks that manage
> TPX thought it was a great idea to start a script that puts your session in
> split screen, one screen SDSF, one ISPF edit
> >
> >
> >Carmen
> >
> >
> >On 6/9/2021 9:58 AM, Billy Ashton wrote:
> >>Hello all...I don't know if there is an ISPF list, but hope you can help
> me here.
> >>
> >>I have a user that is having some strange things happening when he logs
> into TSO and goes into ISPF. For example, while everyone else starts ISPF
> and has one window open, this user has 5 split screens defined and named,
> but he has no idea how.
> >>
> >>Can someone tell me if there is a way to trace all the commands that get
> processed when he enters ISPSTART, or is there some magic way to have
> commands like multiple split screens issued automatically?
> >>
> >>Thank you for your kind thoughts!
> >>
> >>Billy
> >>
> >>
> >>--
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> >>send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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> >
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> succeed, but I am bound to live up to what light I have.” ― Abraham Lincoln/
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Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread Itschak Mugzach

Does this happen with all ispf aliases (PFG ISPF, etc.)? What happens if he
starts ispf with a different APPL name (aka NEWAPPL(xxx))?

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On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 9:59 PM Seymour J Metz  wrote:

> ISRPCP calls ISPSTART under the covers; they are both commands and are
> either in the LPA or the link list.
>
>
> --
> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
>
> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf
> of Billy Ashton [bill00ash...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 11:13 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing
>
> The TSO logon script dumps the user to a READY prompt. Then the user
> selects either a specific application command for special processing or
> ISPSTART to get into ISPF. I don't see a special ISPSTART Clist/Rexx
> program in his Sysproc or Sysexec, so there must be something happening
> with ISPSTART.
>
> Billy
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Carmen Vitullo" 
> To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
> Sent: 6/9/2021 11:06:01 AM
> Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing
>
> >Maybe the session manager - startup logon script?
> >
> >I recall when I started at my current job the systems folks that manage
> TPX thought it was a great idea to start a script that puts your session in
> split screen, one screen SDSF, one ISPF edit
> >
> >
> >Carmen
> >
> >
> >On 6/9/2021 9:58 AM, Billy Ashton wrote:
> >>Hello all...I don't know if there is an ISPF list, but hope you can help
> me here.
> >>
> >>I have a user that is having some strange things happening when he logs
> into TSO and goes into ISPF. For example, while everyone else starts ISPF
> and has one window open, this user has 5 split screens defined and named,
> but he has no idea how.
> >>
> >>Can someone tell me if there is a way to trace all the commands that get
> processed when he enters ISPSTART, or is there some magic way to have
> commands like multiple split screens issued automatically?
> >>
> >>Thank you for your kind thoughts!
> >>
> >>Billy
> >>
> >>
> >>--
> >>For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
> >>send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
> >>
> >-- *Carmen Vitullo*
> >
> >/“I am not bound to win, but I am bound to be true. I am not bound to
> succeed, but I am bound to live up to what light I have.” ― Abraham Lincoln/
> >
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Re: [External] Back in the Dark ages

2021-06-09 Thread ITschak Mugzach

There are many of them. Some of my clients use products from mackinney.

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On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 9:35 PM Pommier, Rex  wrote:

> $AVRS by Macro4?
>
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: [External] Back in the Dark ages
>
> Back in the dark ages when I worked for JPMChase in Houston, we had a
> product that would SPOOL all execute JCL into its SPOOL Volumes and then
> archive that data.
>
> Anyone remember a product like that?
>
>
> TIA
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Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread Seymour J Metz

ISRPCP calls ISPSTART under the covers; they are both commands and are either 
in the LPA or the link list.


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of 
Billy Ashton [bill00ash...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 11:13 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing

The TSO logon script dumps the user to a READY prompt. Then the user
selects either a specific application command for special processing or
ISPSTART to get into ISPF. I don't see a special ISPSTART Clist/Rexx
program in his Sysproc or Sysexec, so there must be something happening
with ISPSTART.

Billy

-- Original Message --
From: "Carmen Vitullo" 
To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
Sent: 6/9/2021 11:06:01 AM
Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing

>Maybe the session manager - startup logon script?
>
>I recall when I started at my current job the systems folks that manage TPX 
>thought it was a great idea to start a script that puts your session in split 
>screen, one screen SDSF, one ISPF edit
>
>
>Carmen
>
>
>On 6/9/2021 9:58 AM, Billy Ashton wrote:
>>Hello all...I don't know if there is an ISPF list, but hope you can help me 
>>here.
>>
>>I have a user that is having some strange things happening when he logs into 
>>TSO and goes into ISPF. For example, while everyone else starts ISPF and has 
>>one window open, this user has 5 split screens defined and named, but he has 
>>no idea how.
>>
>>Can someone tell me if there is a way to trace all the commands that get 
>>processed when he enters ISPSTART, or is there some magic way to have 
>>commands like multiple split screens issued automatically?
>>
>>Thank you for your kind thoughts!
>>
>>Billy
>>
>>
>>--
>>For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
>>send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
>>
>-- *Carmen Vitullo*
>
>/“I am not bound to win, but I am bound to be true. I am not bound to succeed, 
>but I am bound to live up to what light I have.” ― Abraham Lincoln/
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Re: [External] Back in the Dark ages

2021-06-09 Thread Carmen Vitullo


I was thinking $AVRS also


Carmen


On 6/9/2021 1:34 PM, Pommier, Rex wrote:

$AVRS by Macro4?

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Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 1:06 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [External] Back in the Dark ages

Back in the dark ages when I worked for JPMChase in Houston, we had a product 
that would SPOOL all execute JCL into its SPOOL Volumes and then archive that 
data.

Anyone remember a product like that?


TIA

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Re: [External] Back in the Dark ages

2021-06-09 Thread Pommier, Rex

$AVRS by Macro4?

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Subject: [External] Back in the Dark ages

Back in the dark ages when I worked for JPMChase in Houston, we had a product 
that would SPOOL all execute JCL into its SPOOL Volumes and then archive that 
data.

Anyone remember a product like that?

TIA

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Back in the Dark ages

2021-06-09 Thread Steve Beaver

Back in the dark ages when I worked for JPMChase in Houston, we had a
product that would SPOOL all execute JCL into its SPOOL Volumes
and then archive that data.

Anyone remember a product like that?


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Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread Carmen Vitullo


Excellent, thanks for letting everyone know

Carmen

On 6/9/2021 11:24 AM, Billy Ashton wrote:

Well, Kolusu has hit on the edge of the bullseye!

I searched the ISPPROF file, and found the split and swap command 
string in the ISPPROF member. It took a little magic from an old Rexx 
I had from who knows when (called ProfRead) that showed there is a 
ZSTART variable in ISPPROF. Closer look at the 7.3 function shows that 
only deals with ISRPROF, which is why I could not find it earlier.


We were able to delete this variable from the table, and now we get 
the expected results.


Thank you to all who had some great input  - I now know lots of ways 
to get this result if I need them!


Billy

-- Original Message --
From: "Sri h Kolusu" 
To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
Sent: 6/9/2021 11:55:04 AM
Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing


did not see anything for ZSTART or any variable with a Split or Swap

command.


Billy,

I would then check if the user has any recorded macros that gets 
executed
at logon.  Does the same thing happen if that user logs on from a 
different

PC ?

I would also check USERID.ISPF.PROFILE dataset and do a SRCHFOR for
SWAP/SPLIT and see if you can find it loaded in the profile. The  Member
ISRPROF should shed some light on this

Thanks,
Kolusu

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Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread Billy Ashton


Well, Kolusu has hit on the edge of the bullseye!

I searched the ISPPROF file, and found the split and swap command string 
in the ISPPROF member. It took a little magic from an old Rexx I had 
from who knows when (called ProfRead) that showed there is a ZSTART 
variable in ISPPROF. Closer look at the 7.3 function shows that only 
deals with ISRPROF, which is why I could not find it earlier.


We were able to delete this variable from the table, and now we get the 
expected results.


Thank you to all who had some great input  - I now know lots of ways to 
get this result if I need them!


Billy

-- Original Message --
From: "Sri h Kolusu" 
To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
Sent: 6/9/2021 11:55:04 AM
Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing


did not see anything for ZSTART or any variable with a Split or Swap

command.


Billy,

I would then check if the user has any recorded macros that gets executed
at logon.  Does the same thing happen if that user logs on from a different
PC ?

I would also check USERID.ISPF.PROFILE dataset and do a SRCHFOR for
SWAP/SPLIT and see if you can find it loaded in the profile.  The  Member
ISRPROF should shed some light on this

Thanks,
Kolusu

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Re: EXTERNAL EMAIL: Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread Jerry Whitteridge

I noticed a reference to an ACL in the TPX profile. That ACL can issue commands 
- you should check he isn’t running a customized ACL there

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If the logon procedure "dump" the user to the TSO READY prompt what happens if 
he enters ISPSTART only?
Or ISPSTART BASIC

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Objet : Re: ISPF startup processing

The TSO logon script dumps the user to a READY prompt. Then the user selects 
either a specific application command for special processing or ISPSTART to get 
into ISPF. I don't see a special ISPSTART Clist/Rexx program in his Sysproc or 
Sysexec, so there must be something happening with ISPSTART.

Billy

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Sent: 6/9/2021 11:06:01 AM
Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing

>Maybe the session manager - startup logon script?
>
>I recall when I started at my current job the systems folks that manage
>TPX thought it was a great idea to start a script that puts your
>session in split screen, one screen SDSF, one ISPF edit
>
>
>Carmen
>
>
>On 6/9/2021 9:58 AM, Billy Ashton wrote:
>>Hello all...I don't know if there is an ISPF list, but hope you can help me 
>>here.
>>
>>I have a user that is having some strange things happening when he logs into 
>>TSO and goes into ISPF. For example, while everyone else starts ISPF and has 
>>one window open, this user has 5 split screens defined and named, but he has 
>>no idea how.
>>
>>Can someone tell me if there is a way to trace all the commands that get 
>>processed when he enters ISPSTART, or is there some magic way to have 
>>commands like multiple split screens issued automatically?
>>
>>Thank you for your kind thoughts!
>>
>>Billy
>>
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Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread DAL POS Raphael

If the logon procedure "dump" the user to the TSO READY prompt what happens if 
he enters ISPSTART only? 
Or ISPSTART BASIC

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Objet : Re: ISPF startup processing

The TSO logon script dumps the user to a READY prompt. Then the user selects 
either a specific application command for special processing or ISPSTART to get 
into ISPF. I don't see a special ISPSTART Clist/Rexx program in his Sysproc or 
Sysexec, so there must be something happening with ISPSTART.

Billy

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Sent: 6/9/2021 11:06:01 AM
Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing

>Maybe the session manager - startup logon script?
>
>I recall when I started at my current job the systems folks that manage 
>TPX thought it was a great idea to start a script that puts your 
>session in split screen, one screen SDSF, one ISPF edit
>
>
>Carmen
>
>
>On 6/9/2021 9:58 AM, Billy Ashton wrote:
>>Hello all...I don't know if there is an ISPF list, but hope you can help me 
>>here.
>>
>>I have a user that is having some strange things happening when he logs into 
>>TSO and goes into ISPF. For example, while everyone else starts ISPF and has 
>>one window open, this user has 5 split screens defined and named, but he has 
>>no idea how.
>>
>>Can someone tell me if there is a way to trace all the commands that get 
>>processed when he enters ISPSTART, or is there some magic way to have 
>>commands like multiple split screens issued automatically?
>>
>>Thank you for your kind thoughts!
>>
>>Billy
>>
>>
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Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread Sri h Kolusu

>>did not see anything for ZSTART or any variable with a Split or Swap
command.


Billy,

I would then check if the user has any recorded macros that gets executed
at logon.  Does the same thing happen if that user logs on from a different
PC ?

I would also check USERID.ISPF.PROFILE dataset and do a SRCHFOR for
SWAP/SPLIT and see if you can find it loaded in the profile.  The  Member
ISRPROF should shed some light on this

Thanks,
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Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread Carmen Vitullo

Hey Billy,  we use TPX also, for now - my TPX guru is OOTO currently, 
but I know for me it was hard to find myself.


let us know what you find if you can

thinking some more, maybe the emulator? an emulator macro ?

just thinking out loud here

Carmen

On 6/9/2021 10:46 AM, Billy Ashton wrote:
Hi Carmen, we use TPX here. I had a look at the user's setup, and for 
TSO they have only the APPLID, Modent, and ACL defined - all the rest 
are blank.


Billy

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Sent: 6/9/2021 11:37:11 AM
Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing

I still think there's a possibility its the session manager, most 
SM's can execute logon scripts, or macro's during signin, what SM do 
you use?


the macro's or scripts can be user or group specific


Carmen

On 6/9/2021 10:30 AM, Billy Ashton wrote:
Kolusu and Raphael, we checked 7.3, and issued L ZSTART, and in 
fact, scrolled through all 900 variables, and did not see anything 
for ZSTART or any variable with a Split or Swap command.


Next thoughts? This is really a strange puzzle...
Billy

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Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing


r example, while everyone else starts
 ISPF and has one window open, this user has 5 split screens 
defined and

 named, but he has no idea how.


Billy,

He probably has ZSTART coded. Check for the variable ZSTART from 
option 7.3

and it should show you how the 5 split screens are set up

Thanks,
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Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread Billy Ashton

Hi Carmen, we use TPX here. I had a look at the user's setup, and for 
TSO they have only the APPLID, Modent, and ACL defined - all the rest 
are blank.

Billy

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Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing

I still think there's a possibility its the session manager, most SM's can 
execute logon scripts, or macro's during signin, what SM do you use?

the macro's or scripts can be user or group specific

Carmen

On 6/9/2021 10:30 AM, Billy Ashton wrote:

Kolusu and Raphael, we checked 7.3, and issued L ZSTART, and in fact, scrolled 
through all 900 variables, and did not see anything for ZSTART or any variable 
with a Split or Swap command.

Next thoughts? This is really a strange puzzle...
Billy

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Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing

r example, while everyone else starts

 ISPF and has one window open, this user has 5 split screens defined and
 named, but he has no idea how.

Billy,

He probably has ZSTART coded. Check for the variable ZSTART from option 7.3
and it should show you how the 5 split screens are set up

Thanks,
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Re: ... FLOWASM and ASMA435I

2021-06-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin

On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 14:19:47 +, Rob Scott wrote:

>Response from HLASM Development (Thanks Jonathan Scott) :
>
>If an input exit supplies the record (which happens in this case, even if the 
>record is unchanged), the source record number information for error message 
>purposes (which may be different from the number of records provided by the 
>exit) needs to be filled in by the exit routine in field AXPRELREC.
>
"different ".  Jonathan understands clearly.

In the Programmer's Guide SC26-4941-08, I read:
   XCAXPRELREC,AXPRELREC  Set Relative Record No. to 0
(But it's updated a dozen lines later.)

>I will send info to Ed and see if FLOWASM can be enhanced.

Thanks,
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Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread Carmen Vitullo

I still think there's a possibility its the session manager, most SM's 
can execute logon scripts, or macro's during signin, what SM do you use?


the macro's or scripts can be user or group specific


Carmen

On 6/9/2021 10:30 AM, Billy Ashton wrote:
Kolusu and Raphael, we checked 7.3, and issued L ZSTART, and in fact, 
scrolled through all 900 variables, and did not see anything for 
ZSTART or any variable with a Split or Swap command.


Next thoughts? This is really a strange puzzle...
Billy

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Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing


r example, while everyone else starts
 ISPF and has one window open, this user has 5 split screens defined 
and

 named, but he has no idea how.


Billy,

He probably has ZSTART coded. Check for the variable ZSTART from 
option 7.3

and it should show you how the 5 split screens are set up

Thanks,
Kolusu

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Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread Richards, Robert B. (CTR)

Use 3.14 and search for the string in all your SYSEXEC and SYSPROC datasets. 
That may help in the troubleshooting.

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Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing

Kolusu and Raphael, we checked 7.3, and issued L ZSTART, and in fact, scrolled 
through all 900 variables, and did not see anything for ZSTART or any variable 
with a Split or Swap command.

Next thoughts? This is really a strange puzzle...
Billy

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Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing

>>>r example, while everyone else starts
>>  ISPF and has one window open, this user has 5 split screens defined 
>> and  named, but he has no idea how.
>
>Billy,
>
>He probably has ZSTART coded. Check for the variable ZSTART from option 
>7.3 and it should show you how the 5 split screens are set up
>
>Thanks,
>Kolusu
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Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread Billy Ashton

Kolusu and Raphael, we checked 7.3, and issued L ZSTART, and in fact, 
scrolled through all 900 variables, and did not see anything for ZSTART 
or any variable with a Split or Swap command.


Next thoughts? This is really a strange puzzle...
Billy

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Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing


r example, while everyone else starts

 ISPF and has one window open, this user has 5 split screens defined and
 named, but he has no idea how.


Billy,

He probably has ZSTART coded. Check for the variable ZSTART from option 7.3
and it should show you how the 5 split screens are set up

Thanks,
Kolusu

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Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread Billy Ashton

Shalom Itschak, as I would have thought, the Command field is empty, 
which is why it sits at the READY prompt.

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Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing

In the logon screen, what is written in the command field? This is part of
the racf Tao segment and loaded at logon time. Maybe it is
isotope;split;split;split

ITschak

בתאריך יום ד׳, 9 ביוני 2021 ב-17:59 מאת Billy Ashton 
:

 Hello all...I don't know if there is an ISPF list, but hope you can help
 me here.

 I have a user that is having some strange things happening when he logs
 into TSO and goes into ISPF. For example, while everyone else starts
 ISPF and has one window open, this user has 5 split screens defined and
 named, but he has no idea how.

 Can someone tell me if there is a way to trace all the commands that get
 processed when he enters ISPSTART, or is there some magic way to have
 commands like multiple split screens issued automatically?

 Thank you for your kind thoughts!

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Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread DAL POS Raphael

Hi Billy, 

Look at variable ZSTART under ISPF 7.3 for this user.  

I have it set up with something like this: 

ZSTART P ISPF;3.4;split new;3.4;split new;3.4;split new;8;swap 1  

It starts automagically a few ISPF windows. 

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Billy Ashton
Envoyé : mercredi 9 juin 2021 17:13
À : IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Objet : Re: ISPF startup processing

The TSO logon script dumps the user to a READY prompt. Then the user selects 
either a specific application command for special processing or ISPSTART to get 
into ISPF. I don't see a special ISPSTART Clist/Rexx program in his Sysproc or 
Sysexec, so there must be something happening with ISPSTART.

Billy

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To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
Sent: 6/9/2021 11:06:01 AM
Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing

>Maybe the session manager - startup logon script?
>
>I recall when I started at my current job the systems folks that manage 
>TPX thought it was a great idea to start a script that puts your 
>session in split screen, one screen SDSF, one ISPF edit
>
>
>Carmen
>
>
>On 6/9/2021 9:58 AM, Billy Ashton wrote:
>>Hello all...I don't know if there is an ISPF list, but hope you can help me 
>>here.
>>
>>I have a user that is having some strange things happening when he logs into 
>>TSO and goes into ISPF. For example, while everyone else starts ISPF and has 
>>one window open, this user has 5 split screens defined and named, but he has 
>>no idea how.
>>
>>Can someone tell me if there is a way to trace all the commands that get 
>>processed when he enters ISPSTART, or is there some magic way to have 
>>commands like multiple split screens issued automatically?
>>
>>Thank you for your kind thoughts!
>>
>>Billy
>>
>>
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Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread Sri h Kolusu

>>r example, while everyone else starts
> ISPF and has one window open, this user has 5 split screens defined and
> named, but he has no idea how.

Billy,

He probably has ZSTART coded. Check for the variable ZSTART from option 7.3
and it should show you how the 5 split screens are set up

Thanks,
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Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread Billy Ashton

The TSO logon script dumps the user to a READY prompt. Then the user 
selects either a specific application command for special processing or 
ISPSTART to get into ISPF. I don't see a special ISPSTART Clist/Rexx 
program in his Sysproc or Sysexec, so there must be something happening 
with ISPSTART.


Billy

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Sent: 6/9/2021 11:06:01 AM
Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing


Maybe the session manager - startup logon script?

I recall when I started at my current job the systems folks that manage TPX 
thought it was a great idea to start a script that puts your session in split 
screen, one screen SDSF, one ISPF edit


Carmen


On 6/9/2021 9:58 AM, Billy Ashton wrote:

Hello all...I don't know if there is an ISPF list, but hope you can help me 
here.

I have a user that is having some strange things happening when he logs into 
TSO and goes into ISPF. For example, while everyone else starts ISPF and has 
one window open, this user has 5 split screens defined and named, but he has no 
idea how.

Can someone tell me if there is a way to trace all the commands that get 
processed when he enters ISPSTART, or is there some magic way to have commands 
like multiple split screens issued automatically?

Thank you for your kind thoughts!

Billy


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Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread ITschak Mugzach

In the logon screen, what is written in the command field? This is part of
the racf Tao segment and loaded at logon time. Maybe it is
isotope;split;split;split

ITschak

בתאריך יום ד׳, 9 ביוני 2021 ב-17:59 מאת Billy Ashton :

> Hello all...I don't know if there is an ISPF list, but hope you can help
> me here.
>
> I have a user that is having some strange things happening when he logs
> into TSO and goes into ISPF. For example, while everyone else starts
> ISPF and has one window open, this user has 5 split screens defined and
> named, but he has no idea how.
>
> Can someone tell me if there is a way to trace all the commands that get
> processed when he enters ISPSTART, or is there some magic way to have
> commands like multiple split screens issued automatically?
>
> Thank you for your kind thoughts!
>
> Billy
>
>
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Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread Carmen Vitullo


Maybe the session manager - startup logon script?

I recall when I started at my current job the systems folks that manage 
TPX thought it was a great idea to start a script that puts your session 
in split screen, one screen SDSF, one ISPF edit



Carmen


On 6/9/2021 9:58 AM, Billy Ashton wrote:
Hello all...I don't know if there is an ISPF list, but hope you can 
help me here.


I have a user that is having some strange things happening when he 
logs into TSO and goes into ISPF. For example, while everyone else 
starts ISPF and has one window open, this user has 5 split screens 
defined and named, but he has no idea how.


Can someone tell me if there is a way to trace all the commands that 
get processed when he enters ISPSTART, or is there some magic way to 
have commands like multiple split screens issued automatically?


Thank you for your kind thoughts!

Billy


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Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread Richards, Robert B. (CTR)

Look for a logon clist/rexx being executed just prior to getting to the IPSF 
primary menu.

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Subject: ISPF startup processing

Hello all...I don't know if there is an ISPF list, but hope you can help me 
here.

I have a user that is having some strange things happening when he logs into 
TSO and goes into ISPF. For example, while everyone else starts ISPF and has 
one window open, this user has 5 split screens defined and named, but he has no 
idea how.

Can someone tell me if there is a way to trace all the commands that get 
processed when he enters ISPSTART, or is there some magic way to have commands 
like multiple split screens issued automatically?

Thank you for your kind thoughts!

Billy

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ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread Billy Ashton

Hello all...I don't know if there is an ISPF list, but hope you can help 
me here.


I have a user that is having some strange things happening when he logs 
into TSO and goes into ISPF. For example, while everyone else starts 
ISPF and has one window open, this user has 5 split screens defined and 
named, but he has no idea how.


Can someone tell me if there is a way to trace all the commands that get 
processed when he enters ISPSTART, or is there some magic way to have 
commands like multiple split screens issued automatically?


Thank you for your kind thoughts!

Billy


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Re: ... FLOWASM and ASMA435I

2021-06-09 Thread Rob Scott

Response from HLASM Development (Thanks Jonathan Scott) :

If an input exit supplies the record (which happens in this case, even if the 
record is unchanged), the source record number information for error message 
purposes (which may be different from the number of records provided by the 
exit) needs to be filled in by the exit routine in field AXPRELREC.

I will send info to Ed and see if FLOWASM can be enhanced.

Rob

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On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 12:52:39 +, Rob Scott wrote:
>
>Just tried it without FLOWASM and t e source line record number is correct 
>(even if the code is in traditional format).
>
>Wondering if this is a bug with HLASM or a side-effect of having one or more 
>of INX, LIBX and PRX defined in ASMAOPT.
>
When I was working with the HLASM exits to support NFS, I rrecall stuffing (44 
bytes of) the pathname in the reply buffer.  I don't recall using record number.

>I will try and find out.
>
I glanced at the HLASM Users' Guide.  I see DSNAME in the reply buffer.
I don't notice record number.

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Re: access to 9-track reel tape drive

2021-06-09 Thread Bill Ogden

>Rule of thumb: you don't need old tapes, you may need old data.
>In my former life I had 20 years old data, but the tapes were approx. 
>2-3 years old (max.). And always replicated, always in two locations.
>For old media (tapes, optical, hdd's, whatever) the earlier you start 
>reading them the better chances you have.

The only problem with this rule is that generations of customer management
need to understand the rule and why it exists. This "understanding" is not 
always present.

The Overland drive I mentioned needed manual loading. A little slow, but 
the data problems were
usually not at the beginning of a tape.

Bill


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Re: ... FLOWASM and ASMA435I

2021-06-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin

On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 12:52:39 +, Rob Scott wrote:
>
>Just tried it without FLOWASM and t e source line record number is correct 
>(even if the code is in traditional format).
>
>Wondering if this is a bug with HLASM or a side-effect of having one or more 
>of INX, LIBX and PRX defined in ASMAOPT.
>
When I was working with the HLASM exits to support NFS, I rrecall stuffing (44 
bytes of)
the pathname in the reply buffer.  I don't recall using record number.

>I will try and find out.
>
I glanced at the HLASM Users' Guide.  I see DSNAME in the reply buffer.
I don't notice record number.

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Re: ... FLOWASM and ASMA435I

2021-06-09 Thread Rob Scott

Good point.

Just tried it without FLOWASM and the source line record number is correct 
(even if the code is in traditional format).

Wondering if this is a bug with HLASM or a side-effect of having one or more of 
INX, LIBX and PRX defined in ASMAOPT.

I will try and find out.

Rob.

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On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 08:50:08 +, Rob Scott wrote:
>...
>On my system, ASMA435I messages for errors in open code (rather than macro 
>processing) give a value of 0 for the record number, so I am not sure how 
>useful that is.
>
Is the behavior identical in the absence of FLOWASM?

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Re: ... FLOWASM and ASMA435I

2021-06-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin

On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 08:50:08 +, Rob Scott wrote:
>...
>On my system, ASMA435I messages for errors in open code (rather than macro 
>processing) give a value of 0 for the record number, so I am not sure how 
>useful that is.
> 
Is the behavior identical in the absence of FLOWASM?

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Re: Yet another cloud outage!

2021-06-09 Thread Bill Johnson

Fastly gave the explanation for the outage.
Fastly (FSLY) – Fastly issued an apology for Tuesday’s widespread internet 
outage, with the cloud computing company saying the incident was caused by a 
software bug that was triggered when a customer changed settings. Fastly rose 
2.4% in the premarket.
Imagine YOUR business being taken down when another user changes THEIR 
settings? 


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On Tuesday, June 8, 2021, 7:46 AM, Bill Johnson 
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Global glitch: swaths of internet go down after cloud outage

Numerous websites went offline briefly after an apparent widespread outage at 
the cloud service company Fastly, and there were still reports of sporadic 
disruptions after the company patched the problem an hour later.

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Re: ... FLOWASM ...

2021-06-09 Thread David Crayford


On 9/06/2021 11:36 am, Paul Gilmartin wrote:

On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 10:02:01 +0800, David Crayford  wrote:

...

Is 2009 good enough for you?: https://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ftp/demo/?C=M;O=D

Perfect. I have to say, that's a superbly documented piece of code.


Did you see a User's Manual?  (Rob was inferring the rules from
comments in the source.)


The code has documentation comments at the top of the source file which 
has a detailed specification and
example code. Ed's doc is top notch. That's what we (Rob) supplied to 
Slickedit as the spec.





Perhaps: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literate_programming

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Re: ... FLOWASM ...

2021-06-09 Thread Rob Scott

 But breaking lines in that fashion diminishes the usefulness of line 
 numbers reported in ASMA435I messages.

On my system, ASMA435I messages for errors in open code (rather than macro 
processing) give a value of 0 for the record number, so I am not sure how 
useful that is.

As Ed mentioned, ASMA90 (and programmers) deal in logical statement numbers for 
diagnostics (For example the “Diagnostic Cross Reference and Assembler Summary" 
report in the listing).

>> How do FLOWASM and HLASM interact in counting records?

They don’t.

>> Did you see a User's Manual?

I don’t think that is relevant or required for a piece of public domain source.

Rob

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On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 10:02:01 +0800, David Crayford wrote:
>>> ...
>> Is 2009 good enough for you?: 
>> https://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ftp/demo/?C=M;O=D
>
>Perfect. I have to say, that's a superbly documented piece of code.
>
Did you see a User's Manual? (Rob was inferring the rules from
comments in the source.)

Perhaps: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literate_programming

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Re: Call Home / CBU activation or deactivation

2021-06-09 Thread Attila Fogarasi

This is hardware specific -- it varies by your z model level (ie. z14 vs
z15, etc.).   Normally the CBU records are preconfigured in the SE and
activated by command.  IME the phone call is when you are outside the
bounds of the preconfigured CBU records ... so there is a financial cost
incurred.  I would image IBM would frown on turning that off :)  In any
case the charges would be incurred at true-up time.  Tailor fit pricing is
a great choice (but requires z15 hardware, it sounds like you don't have
that).

On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 11:12 PM Rob Jackson  wrote:

> I have a perplexing situation that has been assigned to me.  The CBU
> activation expire time generates a call.  An associate mentioned a way to
> turn it off at the HMC.  Is there IBM documentation that describes how to
> configure this?  The system may generate a ticket each day until it
> expires.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rob Jackson
> rwjackso...@msn.com
> rob.w.jack...@vumc.org
> z/OS Systems Programmer
> Vanderbilt University Medical Center IT
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