Re: [JAWS-Users] can't authorize jaws

[Lenny McHugh]

George, I have never had a pro version.

-Original Message- 
From: TheHangMan

Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2015 11:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't authorize jaws

Lenny,
If you had a J16 Pro, Then J17 will be pro too
Are you using the J16 pro key number???

I have not open my Jaws 17 disc yet and don't plan, until I pay for the SMA 
bundle

Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Lenny McHugh

Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2015 10:09 PM
To: JFW List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't authorize jaws

Interesting, the laptop is windows 10 home. My install disk is also for
home. After I installed it it keeps saying jaws professional. We uninstalled
it and re-installed with the same message. I went to enter my jaws serial
number and am informed that it is not a valid number. My serial number is
within the first 50 ever issued. Go figure! I have always stated that I
think pcs should be used as door stops,now I think laptops should be the
door mats...


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Re: [JAWS-Users] can someone post how to repair jaws please?

[Tom]

why would jaws need to be repaired? asked out of curiosity

-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 9:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can someone post how to repair jaws please?

or you can just get the executable jaws version from FS which is correct for
your jaws version
just run it and if jaws detects the version is already installed it'll give
you choices: modify, repair or remove

-Original Message- 
From: TheHangMan

Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 7:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can someone post how to repair jaws please?

Hi,
You can run the jaws disc and select to run a repair.

HTH,

Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of joanne
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 9:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] can someone post how to repair jaws please?

Awhile back someone posted 3 ways to repair Jaws. The most helpful way for
me was the third way which was similar to the way I repaired it in older
versions where you go to a place that asked if you wanted to modify or
repair.  Can someone repost the directions?  I was going to open the EXE
file and start the install and try to repair it from there, but as this
option isn't an option anymore I thought I would inquire about a possible
similar way to do this.

joanne
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Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

[K. Washington]

I'm sorry but I cannot afford to have 2 laptops.

I'm glad you have the finances to own multiple laptops affording you 
the ability of upgrading to Windows 10, but for someone like myself 
it just isn't feasible.


I'm using Windows 7 Home (64 Bit) with latest build of JAWS 17 and a 
TripleTalk USB hardware synth, and I'm experiencing zero issues. My 
All-in-1 Epson printer/scanner/copier works. My WD 2 TB USB hard 
drive work. My duel layer DVD burner works... in other words nothing 
is broke, so I'm not in a rush to change anything.


I'm not a computer/software programmer so I have no idea what a 
"Faster OS" mean. All I know is when I open an application or visit a 
page on the web,, my PC does the job and does it well.


So please don't look at people hesitant about upgrading to Windows 10 
as "Cavemen living in the stone age" for in this instance there is 
absolutely nothing wrong with that.


Continued fortune with your experience with Windows 10. When I feel 
the time is right and feel comfortable enough to take my flawlessly 
working Windows 7 PC down the road of uncertainty, I'll upgrade. That 
won't be anytime soon though. LOL!


At 11:39 AM 12/6/2015, you wrote:

Hi,
My Dell twine 3 in 1 and my canoscan with Openbook has had no problem with
drivers.
There is nothing wrong in using 2 laptops one running Wind 10 and the other
Wind 7, because jaws is jaws.

And I know that someone is going to have a problem on their hardwear
compatibility.
But, are we suppose to stay living in the caveman era?

Jorge




-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 10:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of
windows update

I personally believe that upgrading to Windows10 needs to be an individual
decision.  No one should be criticized for choosing to upgrade or not to
upgrade.  I am annoyed that Microsoft has taken this approach to force it on
us, but that is not my reason for not upgrading.  My primary reason is that
my employer will not be upgrading to Windows10 anytime soon.  As I grow
older and wiser, I've decided that it is not worth my time and effort to be
running different computer setups at work and home.  There was a time in my
life when I was simultaneously proficient in using Apple IIe, Apple GS,
Apple Mac, and Windows 3.5, as well as able to write computer code in 4
different programming languages.  I now leave the multi-platform use to
others of you on this list.  I monitor the information shared on this list
and tuck it away (or search the archives) when I do need the knowledge.  In
addition, I'm pretty sure that when I do make the decision to upgrade at
home, I will be faced with looking for a new printer and scanner.  As best
as I can tell neither will be supported in Windows10, but since I've been
using them since WindowsXP I am well due for replacements of these devices.


So my holiday which for this list is to continue to see useful information
being shared on this list and no more criticism of people's personal
decisions.  We get enough stuff pushed on us from technology manufacturers.


Happy Holidays to All!!
Annette





-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Pursley
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 8:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of
windows update

Here's a thought.  We have until 2020 to use a fully supported Win7 which
works with few problems.  I prefer to use the computer as a productivity
tool and will leave upgrade headaches to others.  When I find that Win10 has
enhancements which will materially help me in my work, then I'll consider
upgrading.  Meanwhile the status quo serves me fine.  My job gives me
challenges enough.

On 12/6/2015 11:15 AM, K. Washington wrote:
> You are so right with this point.
>
> Even things like CD/DVD burners and Blu-ray players stop working due
> to driver issues with Windows 10. In addition the incompatibility
> issues JAWS has with the new Microsoft Edge browser makes this a
> no-brainer for me at least.
>
> I'm still using Windows 7 and will continue to do so as long as possible.
>
> I believe in the saying "If it ain't broke don't fix it."
>
> At 06:33 AM 12/6/2015, you wrote:
>
>> And suppose list members take your advice and rush to upgrade to
>> Windows 10 only to discover that their printers and scanners no
>> longer work because Windows 10 drivers are not available for them.
>> What then?
>>
>> Gerald
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message- From: David Moore
>> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 2:16 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware
>> of windows update
>>
>> Hi,
>> When I upgraded to win10, I did 

Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

[Dialup]

Well, there's never an iron-clad guarantee that something may not go 
wrong in any update process.
In fact, the most common advise you see is to back up your important 
data before undertaking any major update.

And most people regularly update their important data, don't they!
Glen

***

On Sun-06-Dec-15 6:08 pm, Singing Sparrow wrote:

So all my files, and programs will not be deleted or ereased?

On 12/6/2015 12:26 AM, Dialup@56k wrote:

Yes, the 'strong' rumour is that the update to Win 10 will happen
automatically, IF you have Windows updates set to auto.
No, the update is painless.  In fact, I upgraded a very sick Win 7 PC
last week which had multiple software driver issues.
It is not running smoothly on Win 10.
'Caveat Emptor', roughly translates from the Latin as 'Let the buyer
Beware'.
Glen

***

On Sun-06-Dec-15 3:13 pm, Singing Sparrow wrote:

Let me get this straight, Microsoft is going to automattically update
people to windows 10 who have windows 7, 8, or 8.1 even if they have not
reserved a copy of windows 10 is this correct?
If so are your files deleted when  this update/upgrade is complete or
are all your files/programs still on the computer intact?

On 12/4/2015 8:28 PM, Hans Pauli Sundstein (Jawslist) wrote:

Hi.

You have to goto the Windows Update, Installed updates, and remove the
kb2952664, kb3035583, and kb3112343.
Don't restart the computer between each removal, but remove all 3
updates before restart.
When the computer is Restarted, goto the Windows Update, and search
for updates, but don't install the updates, but goto the Recommended
updates link, and see, that the just removed updates again is ready
for install.
Uncheck the checkbox by each of these updates, and use the contextmenu
button to get acces to the "Hide update".
When these 3 updates are unchecked and hided, Win10 should no longer
be able to install automatically.

I Can't garanty, that Microsoft not later comes with a new update,
that will try to get all Windows Users to upgrade to Win10, but let's
see.

Merry Christmas to all!
Hans Pauli

-Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Mario
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2015 2:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware
of windows update

Anna, I'm no expert, but your question made me rethink my response I
was
going to offer. kb3035583 does not provide any security patch to a
vulnerability, it is merely an update that reminds and facilitates
users
of 7 or 8.1 to reserve the free offer of upgrading to 10. so, I think
not having kb3035583 won't necessarily prevent the computer from being
upgraded to windows 10. as for the upgrade being done automatically,
I'm
not sure. but heed Gerald's post about changing the settings from
automatic to manual, and uncheck to get recommended updates. after
7/29/16, all worries of automatically being upgraded to windows 10
should be over, and if you're still on 7 or 8.1, it should be safe to
return windows updates to automatic.



On 12/4/2015 1:26 PM, anna vimini wrote:

sorry Gerald I meant Mario,
Yes I remember you saying to uninstall KB 3,35,583 and I did but I
left
automatic updates on.
so my question is now with that update missing will windows 10
still be
able to install without me knowing or my permission ?
Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows
update
Anna, In the past, I've suggested to uninstall KB3035583, and then
hide
it upon checking for updates, but I think what Gerald is implying is
that if you
leave the settings on windows updates to be performed
automatically, you
won't have any control as to what gets updated.

On 12/4/2015 12:17 PM, Jim Pursley wrote:
block quote
Updates are divided (in Win7 at least) between important and
recommended.  I never download recommended because I chinstruct
Windows
to check for updates and let me decide whether to download and
install.
If the Win 10 install is an important upgrade, then you'd have to go
into the details of each upgrade that is connected to the operating
system, not to your other apps like Word, Defender, etc. There is a
link to more information.  The process can be enlightening if you care
for that kind of detail.

This said, the Win 10 income in the systems tray came as an important
update..I did not scrutinize the important updates.  And so I warily
proceed.

On 12/4/2015 2:38 PM, anna vimini wrote:
block quote
Gerald if I do that I am clue less of which windows updates I should
or shouldm't download.
this is why I was asking which windows update causes the dialogue to
that was mentioned below to appear?
Re: [JAWS-Users] if your not ready for windows 10 beware of windows
update

To prevent Windows 10 from being installed surreptitiously on your PC
without your knowledge, go to Change Settings in the Windows Update
dialog, and in
the combo box choose the option labeled "check for updates but let me
choose whether to download and install them."  Also, uncheck the box
labeled "get

Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

[TheHangMan]

Hi,
Please STOP complaining about windows 10 Jerald,
And the person who posted upgrading a really sick computer to windows 10,
Are you kidding, you should hit that PC with a bat first.

We are not talking about anything that has to do with jaws or learning jaws.
Jorge



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy 
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 9:43 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of
windows update


Your advice is right-on.  If you visit the manufacturer's web site to search

for drivers for your peripheral devices, the site will usually detect which 
OS you currently have installed and search for drivers for that particular 
OS.  So if, for instance, you visit the Samsung web site to search for 
Windows 10 drivers for your Samsung laser printer before you upgrade to 
Windows 10, the site will detect your current OS, which will probably be 
either Windows 7 or 8.  So you would first have to upgrade to Windows 10 to 
determine whether Windows 10 drivers were actually available for your 
printer.  Of course, you could search for third-party Windows 10 drivers for

your printer before you upgrade to Windows 10, but this is generally not 
recommended, as the reliability of such drivers is often suspect.  And 
before you think that you can just rush out and buy a new printer if you are

unable to find Windows 10 drivers for your old one, keep in mind that many, 
if not most, new printers, no longer come with tactile, rocker power 
switches, and often require sighted assistance to set up and operate because

they have LCD display screens whose menu options are often totally 
inaccessible.  The same is true for scanners and all-in-one units.  So 
again, proceed with caution.  There is no hurry to upgrade to Windows 10, 
since Windows 7 will be supported until early 2020.  Even Eric Damery has 
recommended that JAWS users wait awhile before upgrading.

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: K. Washington
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 8:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of 
windows update

That's the point those who are imploring everyone to upgrade do not tell 
you.

You will encounter driver issues with printers, scanners, DVD
players, USB drives and the list goes on.

If you don't mind loosing the ability to use hardware devices you now
rely on, then go ahead and upgrade to Windows 10.

A smart person would first do research to make sure their PC and all
peripheral devices connected is 100% compatible with an OS before
attempting to use it. If you are one who likes living on the
"Microsoft" edge, then I guess taking such precautions means nothing.

At 01:26 AM 12/6/2015, you wrote:
>Yes, the 'strong' rumour is that the update to Win 10 will happen 
>automatically, IF you have Windows updates set to auto.
>No, the update is painless.  In fact, I upgraded a very sick Win 7 PC last 
>week which had multiple software driver issues.
>It is not running smoothly on Win 10.
>'Caveat Emptor', roughly translates from the Latin as 'Let the buyer 
>Beware'.
>Glen
>
>***
>
>On Sun-06-Dec-15 3:13 pm, Singing Sparrow wrote:
>>Let me get this straight, Microsoft is going to automattically update
>>people to windows 10 who have windows 7, 8, or 8.1 even if they have not
>>reserved a copy of windows 10 is this correct?
>>If so are your files deleted when  this update/upgrade is complete or
>>are all your files/programs still on the computer intact?
>>
>>On 12/4/2015 8:28 PM, Hans Pauli Sundstein (Jawslist) wrote:
>>>Hi.
>>>
>>>You have to goto the Windows Update, Installed updates, and remove the
>>>kb2952664, kb3035583, and kb3112343.
>>>Don't restart the computer between each removal, but remove all 3
>>>updates before restart.
>>>When the computer is Restarted, goto the Windows Update, and search
>>>for updates, but don't install the updates, but goto the Recommended
>>>updates link, and see, that the just removed updates again is ready
>>>for install.
>>>Uncheck the checkbox by each of these updates, and use the contextmenu
>>>button to get acces to the "Hide update".
>>>When these 3 updates are unchecked and hided, Win10 should no longer
>>>be able to install automatically.
>>>
>>>I Can't garanty, that Microsoft not later comes with a new update,
>>>that will try to get all Windows Users to upgrade to Win10, but let's
>>>see.
>>>
>>>Merry Christmas to all!
>>>Hans Pauli
>>>
>>>-Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Mario
>>>Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2015 2:24 AM
>>>To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware
>>>of windows update
>>>
>>>Anna, I'm no expert, but your question made me rethink my response I was
>>>going to offer. kb3035583 does not provide any security patch to a

Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

[Gerald Levy]

Excuse me, but exactly how was I complaining about Windows 10?  I merely 
pointed out that there are driver issues to consider before upgrading.  My 
post was most certainly on topic for this list, but if you believe 
otherwise, then take it up with the moderators. And if you are happy with 
Windows 10, then more power to you.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: TheHangMan

Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 10:06 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of 
windows update


Hi,
Please STOP complaining about windows 10 Jerald,
And the person who posted upgrading a really sick computer to windows 10,
Are you kidding, you should hit that PC with a bat first.

We are not talking about anything that has to do with jaws or learning jaws.
Jorge



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 9:43 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of
windows update


Your advice is right-on.  If you visit the manufacturer's web site to search

for drivers for your peripheral devices, the site will usually detect which
OS you currently have installed and search for drivers for that particular
OS.  So if, for instance, you visit the Samsung web site to search for
Windows 10 drivers for your Samsung laser printer before you upgrade to
Windows 10, the site will detect your current OS, which will probably be
either Windows 7 or 8.  So you would first have to upgrade to Windows 10 to
determine whether Windows 10 drivers were actually available for your
printer.  Of course, you could search for third-party Windows 10 drivers for

your printer before you upgrade to Windows 10, but this is generally not
recommended, as the reliability of such drivers is often suspect.  And
before you think that you can just rush out and buy a new printer if you are

unable to find Windows 10 drivers for your old one, keep in mind that many,
if not most, new printers, no longer come with tactile, rocker power
switches, and often require sighted assistance to set up and operate because

they have LCD display screens whose menu options are often totally
inaccessible.  The same is true for scanners and all-in-one units.  So
again, proceed with caution.  There is no hurry to upgrade to Windows 10,
since Windows 7 will be supported until early 2020.  Even Eric Damery has
recommended that JAWS users wait awhile before upgrading.

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: K. Washington

Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 8:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of
windows update

That's the point those who are imploring everyone to upgrade do not tell
you.

You will encounter driver issues with printers, scanners, DVD
players, USB drives and the list goes on.

If you don't mind loosing the ability to use hardware devices you now
rely on, then go ahead and upgrade to Windows 10.

A smart person would first do research to make sure their PC and all
peripheral devices connected is 100% compatible with an OS before
attempting to use it. If you are one who likes living on the
"Microsoft" edge, then I guess taking such precautions means nothing.

At 01:26 AM 12/6/2015, you wrote:

Yes, the 'strong' rumour is that the update to Win 10 will happen
automatically, IF you have Windows updates set to auto.
No, the update is painless.  In fact, I upgraded a very sick Win 7 PC last
week which had multiple software driver issues.
It is not running smoothly on Win 10.
'Caveat Emptor', roughly translates from the Latin as 'Let the buyer
Beware'.
Glen

***

On Sun-06-Dec-15 3:13 pm, Singing Sparrow wrote:

Let me get this straight, Microsoft is going to automattically update
people to windows 10 who have windows 7, 8, or 8.1 even if they have not
reserved a copy of windows 10 is this correct?
If so are your files deleted when  this update/upgrade is complete or
are all your files/programs still on the computer intact?

On 12/4/2015 8:28 PM, Hans Pauli Sundstein (Jawslist) wrote:

Hi.

You have to goto the Windows Update, Installed updates, and remove the
kb2952664, kb3035583, and kb3112343.
Don't restart the computer between each removal, but remove all 3
updates before restart.
When the computer is Restarted, goto the Windows Update, and search
for updates, but don't install the updates, but goto the Recommended
updates link, and see, that the just removed updates again is ready
for install.
Uncheck the checkbox by each of these updates, and use the contextmenu
button to get acces to the "Hide update".
When these 3 updates are unchecked and hided, Win10 should no longer
be able to install automatically.

I Can't garanty, that Microsoft not later comes with a new update,
that will try to get all Windows Users to upgrade to Win10, but let's
see.

Merry 

Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

[Gerald Levy]

Not necessarily.  When I first connected my Samsung laser printer to my 
current Windows 7 PC, the OS could not find compatible drivers for it.  This 
printer worked fine with my XP PC.  So I had to visit the Samsung downloads 
site to find Wimdows 7 drivers for my printer.  You cannot assume that the 
OS will always detect compatible drivers for your peripheral devices.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 10:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of 
windows update


the windows 10 OS is capable of detecting the drivers needed as with windows
7 and 8

-Original Message- 
From: Gerald Levy

Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 3:33 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of
windows update


And suppose list members take your advice and rush to upgrade to Windows 10
only to discover that their printers and scanners no longer work because
Windows 10 drivers are not available for them.  What then?

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: David Moore

Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 2:16 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of
windows update

Hi,
When I upgraded to win10, I did not lose one file, non of my settings were
changed, and everything worked on my computer just like it did before I
upgraded. All I got were many many benefits. Please do not listen to all of
the negative stuff going around out there. Jim Flusche helped a lot of us
learn how to use win10 after many of us installed it. Non of us have had any
trouble and the up date went exactly like it was supposed to. Go win10,
upgrade, and enjoy a great reward.


-Original Message- 
From: Singing Sparrow

Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 2:08 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of
windows update

So all my files, and programs will not be deleted or ereased?

On 12/6/2015 12:26 AM, Dialup@56k wrote:
Yes, the 'strong' rumour is that the update to Win 10 will happen 
automatically, IF you have Windows updates set to auto.
No, the update is painless.  In fact, I upgraded a very sick Win 7 PC last 
week which had multiple software driver issues.

It is not running smoothly on Win 10.
'Caveat Emptor', roughly translates from the Latin as 'Let the buyer 
Beware'.

Glen

***

On Sun-06-Dec-15 3:13 pm, Singing Sparrow wrote:

Let me get this straight, Microsoft is going to automattically update
people to windows 10 who have windows 7, 8, or 8.1 even if they have not
reserved a copy of windows 10 is this correct?
If so are your files deleted when  this update/upgrade is complete or
are all your files/programs still on the computer intact?

On 12/4/2015 8:28 PM, Hans Pauli Sundstein (Jawslist) wrote:

Hi.

You have to goto the Windows Update, Installed updates, and remove the
kb2952664, kb3035583, and kb3112343.
Don't restart the computer between each removal, but remove all 3
updates before restart.
When the computer is Restarted, goto the Windows Update, and search
for updates, but don't install the updates, but goto the Recommended
updates link, and see, that the just removed updates again is ready
for install.
Uncheck the checkbox by each of these updates, and use the contextmenu
button to get acces to the "Hide update".
When these 3 updates are unchecked and hided, Win10 should no longer
be able to install automatically.

I Can't garanty, that Microsoft not later comes with a new update,
that will try to get all Windows Users to upgrade to Win10, but let's
see.

Merry Christmas to all!
Hans Pauli

-Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Mario
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2015 2:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware
of windows update

Anna, I'm no expert, but your question made me rethink my response I was
going to offer. kb3035583 does not provide any security patch to a
vulnerability, it is merely an update that reminds and facilitates users
of 7 or 8.1 to reserve the free offer of upgrading to 10. so, I think
not having kb3035583 won't necessarily prevent the computer from being
upgraded to windows 10. as for the upgrade being done automatically, I'm
not sure. but heed Gerald's post about changing the settings from
automatic to manual, and uncheck to get recommended updates. after
7/29/16, all worries of automatically being upgraded to windows 10
should be over, and if you're still on 7 or 8.1, it should be safe to
return windows updates to automatic.



On 12/4/2015 1:26 PM, anna vimini wrote:

sorry Gerald I meant Mario,
Yes I remember you saying to uninstall KB 3,35,583 and I did but I left
automatic updates on.
so my question is now with that update missing will windows 10 still be
able to install without me knowing or my permission ?
Re: 

[JAWS-Users] jaws old disks

[Lenny McHugh]

I just went to get my authorization disk and what a pile of jfw disks were 
with it. I have versions from 4.5 through 16 that I tossed the cds. Now for 
the envelopes, I think that they are too thick for my shredder. Since my 
serial number is written on the folders I am not sure if I just want to put 
them in the cardboard recycle or trash.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] can someone post how to repair jaws please?

[TheHangMan]

Hi,
You can run the jaws disc and select to run a repair.

HTH,

Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of joanne
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 9:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] can someone post how to repair jaws please?

Awhile back someone posted 3 ways to repair Jaws. The most helpful way for
me was the third way which was similar to the way I repaired it in older
versions where you go to a place that asked if you wanted to modify or
repair.  Can someone repost the directions?  I was going to open the EXE
file and start the install and try to repair it from there, but as this
option isn't an option anymore I thought I would inquire about a possible
similar way to do this.

joanne
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Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

[Annette Carr]

I personally believe that upgrading to Windows10 needs to be an individual
decision.  No one should be criticized for choosing to upgrade or not to
upgrade.  I am annoyed that Microsoft has taken this approach to force it on
us, but that is not my reason for not upgrading.  My primary reason is that
my employer will not be upgrading to Windows10 anytime soon.  As I grow
older and wiser, I've decided that it is not worth my time and effort to be
running different computer setups at work and home.  There was a time in my
life when I was simultaneously proficient in using Apple IIe, Apple GS,
Apple Mac, and Windows 3.5, as well as able to write computer code in 4
different programming languages.  I now leave the multi-platform use to
others of you on this list.  I monitor the information shared on this list
and tuck it away (or search the archives) when I do need the knowledge.  In
addition, I'm pretty sure that when I do make the decision to upgrade at
home, I will be faced with looking for a new printer and scanner.  As best
as I can tell neither will be supported in Windows10, but since I've been
using them since WindowsXP I am well due for replacements of these devices.


So my holiday which for this list is to continue to see useful information
being shared on this list and no more criticism of people's personal
decisions.  We get enough stuff pushed on us from technology manufacturers.


Happy Holidays to All!!
Annette
 




-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Pursley
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 8:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of
windows update

Here's a thought.  We have until 2020 to use a fully supported Win7 which
works with few problems.  I prefer to use the computer as a productivity
tool and will leave upgrade headaches to others.  When I find that Win10 has
enhancements which will materially help me in my work, then I'll consider
upgrading.  Meanwhile the status quo serves me fine.  My job gives me
challenges enough.

On 12/6/2015 11:15 AM, K. Washington wrote:
> You are so right with this point.
>
> Even things like CD/DVD burners and Blu-ray players stop working due 
> to driver issues with Windows 10. In addition the incompatibility 
> issues JAWS has with the new Microsoft Edge browser makes this a 
> no-brainer for me at least.
>
> I'm still using Windows 7 and will continue to do so as long as possible.
>
> I believe in the saying "If it ain't broke don't fix it."
>
> At 06:33 AM 12/6/2015, you wrote:
>
>> And suppose list members take your advice and rush to upgrade to 
>> Windows 10 only to discover that their printers and scanners no 
>> longer work because Windows 10 drivers are not available for them.
>> What then?
>>
>> Gerald
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message- From: David Moore
>> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 2:16 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware 
>> of windows update
>>
>> Hi,
>> When I upgraded to win10, I did not lose one file, non of my settings 
>> were changed, and everything worked on my computer just like it did 
>> before I upgraded. All I got were many many benefits. Please do not 
>> listen to all of the negative stuff going around out there. Jim 
>> Flusche helped a lot of us learn how to use win10 after many of us 
>> installed it. Non of us have had any trouble and the up date went 
>> exactly like it was supposed to. Go win10, upgrade, and enjoy a great 
>> reward.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Singing Sparrow
>> Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 2:08 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware 
>> of windows update
>>
>> So all my files, and programs will not be deleted or ereased?
>>
>> On 12/6/2015 12:26 AM, Dialup@56k wrote:
>>> Yes, the 'strong' rumour is that the update to Win 10 will happen 
>>> automatically, IF you have Windows updates set to auto.
>>> No, the update is painless.  In fact, I upgraded a very sick Win 7 
>>> PC last week which had multiple software driver issues.
>>> It is not running smoothly on Win 10.
>>> 'Caveat Emptor', roughly translates from the Latin as 'Let the buyer 
>>> Beware'.
>>> Glen
>>>
>>> ***
>>>
>>> On Sun-06-Dec-15 3:13 pm, Singing Sparrow wrote:
 Let me get this straight, Microsoft is going to automattically 
 update people to windows 10 who have windows 7, 8, or 8.1 even if 
 they have not reserved a copy of windows 10 is this correct?
 If so are your files deleted when  this update/upgrade is complete 
 or are all your files/programs still on the computer intact?

 On 12/4/2015 8:28 PM, Hans Pauli Sundstein (Jawslist) wrote:
> Hi.
>
> You have to goto the Windows Update, Installed updates, and remove 
> the kb2952664, kb3035583, and kb3112343.
> Don't 

[JAWS-Users] can someone post how to repair jaws please?

[joanne]

Awhile back someone posted 3 ways to repair Jaws. The most helpful way for me 
was the third way which was similar to the way I repaired it in older versions 
where you go to a place that asked if you wanted to modify or repair.  Can 
someone repost the directions?  I was going to open the EXE file and start the 
install and try to repair it from there, but as this option isn't an option 
anymore I thought I would inquire about a possible similar way to do this.

joanne
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Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

[Gerald Levy]

Your advice is right-on.  If you visit the manufacturer's web site to search 
for drivers for your peripheral devices, the site will usually detect which 
OS you currently have installed and search for drivers for that particular 
OS.  So if, for instance, you visit the Samsung web site to search for 
Windows 10 drivers for your Samsung laser printer before you upgrade to 
Windows 10, the site will detect your current OS, which will probably be 
either Windows 7 or 8.  So you would first have to upgrade to Windows 10 to 
determine whether Windows 10 drivers were actually available for your 
printer.  Of course, you could search for third-party Windows 10 drivers for 
your printer before you upgrade to Windows 10, but this is generally not 
recommended, as the reliability of such drivers is often suspect.  And 
before you think that you can just rush out and buy a new printer if you are 
unable to find Windows 10 drivers for your old one, keep in mind that many, 
if not most, new printers, no longer come with tactile, rocker power 
switches, and often require sighted assistance to set up and operate because 
they have LCD display screens whose menu options are often totally 
inaccessible.  The same is true for scanners and all-in-one units.  So 
again, proceed with caution.  There is no hurry to upgrade to Windows 10, 
since Windows 7 will be supported until early 2020.  Even Eric Damery has 
recommended that JAWS users wait awhile before upgrading.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: K. Washington

Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 8:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of 
windows update


That's the point those who are imploring everyone to upgrade do not tell 
you.


You will encounter driver issues with printers, scanners, DVD
players, USB drives and the list goes on.

If you don't mind loosing the ability to use hardware devices you now
rely on, then go ahead and upgrade to Windows 10.

A smart person would first do research to make sure their PC and all
peripheral devices connected is 100% compatible with an OS before
attempting to use it. If you are one who likes living on the
"Microsoft" edge, then I guess taking such precautions means nothing.

At 01:26 AM 12/6/2015, you wrote:
Yes, the 'strong' rumour is that the update to Win 10 will happen 
automatically, IF you have Windows updates set to auto.
No, the update is painless.  In fact, I upgraded a very sick Win 7 PC last 
week which had multiple software driver issues.

It is not running smoothly on Win 10.
'Caveat Emptor', roughly translates from the Latin as 'Let the buyer 
Beware'.

Glen

***

On Sun-06-Dec-15 3:13 pm, Singing Sparrow wrote:

Let me get this straight, Microsoft is going to automattically update
people to windows 10 who have windows 7, 8, or 8.1 even if they have not
reserved a copy of windows 10 is this correct?
If so are your files deleted when  this update/upgrade is complete or
are all your files/programs still on the computer intact?

On 12/4/2015 8:28 PM, Hans Pauli Sundstein (Jawslist) wrote:

Hi.

You have to goto the Windows Update, Installed updates, and remove the
kb2952664, kb3035583, and kb3112343.
Don't restart the computer between each removal, but remove all 3
updates before restart.
When the computer is Restarted, goto the Windows Update, and search
for updates, but don't install the updates, but goto the Recommended
updates link, and see, that the just removed updates again is ready
for install.
Uncheck the checkbox by each of these updates, and use the contextmenu
button to get acces to the "Hide update".
When these 3 updates are unchecked and hided, Win10 should no longer
be able to install automatically.

I Can't garanty, that Microsoft not later comes with a new update,
that will try to get all Windows Users to upgrade to Win10, but let's
see.

Merry Christmas to all!
Hans Pauli

-Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Mario
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2015 2:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware
of windows update

Anna, I'm no expert, but your question made me rethink my response I was
going to offer. kb3035583 does not provide any security patch to a
vulnerability, it is merely an update that reminds and facilitates users
of 7 or 8.1 to reserve the free offer of upgrading to 10. so, I think
not having kb3035583 won't necessarily prevent the computer from being
upgraded to windows 10. as for the upgrade being done automatically, I'm
not sure. but heed Gerald's post about changing the settings from
automatic to manual, and uncheck to get recommended updates. after
7/29/16, all worries of automatically being upgraded to windows 10
should be over, and if you're still on 7 or 8.1, it should be safe to
return windows updates to automatic.



On 12/4/2015 1:26 PM, anna vimini wrote:

sorry Gerald I meant Mario,
Yes I remember you saying to uninstall KB 

Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

[Kevin]

the windows 10 OS is capable of detecting the drivers needed as with windows 
7 and 8


-Original Message- 
From: Gerald Levy

Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 3:33 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of 
windows update



And suppose list members take your advice and rush to upgrade to Windows 10
only to discover that their printers and scanners no longer work because
Windows 10 drivers are not available for them.  What then?

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: David Moore

Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 2:16 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of
windows update

Hi,
When I upgraded to win10, I did not lose one file, non of my settings were
changed, and everything worked on my computer just like it did before I
upgraded. All I got were many many benefits. Please do not listen to all of
the negative stuff going around out there. Jim Flusche helped a lot of us
learn how to use win10 after many of us installed it. Non of us have had any
trouble and the up date went exactly like it was supposed to. Go win10,
upgrade, and enjoy a great reward.


-Original Message- 
From: Singing Sparrow

Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 2:08 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of
windows update

So all my files, and programs will not be deleted or ereased?

On 12/6/2015 12:26 AM, Dialup@56k wrote:
Yes, the 'strong' rumour is that the update to Win 10 will happen 
automatically, IF you have Windows updates set to auto.
No, the update is painless.  In fact, I upgraded a very sick Win 7 PC last 
week which had multiple software driver issues.

It is not running smoothly on Win 10.
'Caveat Emptor', roughly translates from the Latin as 'Let the buyer 
Beware'.

Glen

***

On Sun-06-Dec-15 3:13 pm, Singing Sparrow wrote:

Let me get this straight, Microsoft is going to automattically update
people to windows 10 who have windows 7, 8, or 8.1 even if they have not
reserved a copy of windows 10 is this correct?
If so are your files deleted when  this update/upgrade is complete or
are all your files/programs still on the computer intact?

On 12/4/2015 8:28 PM, Hans Pauli Sundstein (Jawslist) wrote:

Hi.

You have to goto the Windows Update, Installed updates, and remove the
kb2952664, kb3035583, and kb3112343.
Don't restart the computer between each removal, but remove all 3
updates before restart.
When the computer is Restarted, goto the Windows Update, and search
for updates, but don't install the updates, but goto the Recommended
updates link, and see, that the just removed updates again is ready
for install.
Uncheck the checkbox by each of these updates, and use the contextmenu
button to get acces to the "Hide update".
When these 3 updates are unchecked and hided, Win10 should no longer
be able to install automatically.

I Can't garanty, that Microsoft not later comes with a new update,
that will try to get all Windows Users to upgrade to Win10, but let's
see.

Merry Christmas to all!
Hans Pauli

-Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Mario
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2015 2:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware
of windows update

Anna, I'm no expert, but your question made me rethink my response I was
going to offer. kb3035583 does not provide any security patch to a
vulnerability, it is merely an update that reminds and facilitates users
of 7 or 8.1 to reserve the free offer of upgrading to 10. so, I think
not having kb3035583 won't necessarily prevent the computer from being
upgraded to windows 10. as for the upgrade being done automatically, I'm
not sure. but heed Gerald's post about changing the settings from
automatic to manual, and uncheck to get recommended updates. after
7/29/16, all worries of automatically being upgraded to windows 10
should be over, and if you're still on 7 or 8.1, it should be safe to
return windows updates to automatic.



On 12/4/2015 1:26 PM, anna vimini wrote:

sorry Gerald I meant Mario,
Yes I remember you saying to uninstall KB 3,35,583 and I did but I left
automatic updates on.
so my question is now with that update missing will windows 10 still be
able to install without me knowing or my permission ?
Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows
update
Anna, In the past, I've suggested to uninstall KB3035583, and then hide
it upon checking for updates, but I think what Gerald is implying is
that if you
leave the settings on windows updates to be performed automatically, 
you

won't have any control as to what gets updated.

On 12/4/2015 12:17 PM, Jim Pursley wrote:
block quote
Updates are divided (in Win7 at least) between important and
recommended.  I never download recommended because I chinstruct Windows
to check for updates and let me decide whether to download and 

Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

[David Ferrin]

Enough of all this bickering, I'm sick of reading all of these messages
going around about do it, don't do it, ETC. 

If a person wants to upgrade or not it is their choice. The list is for
supporting them in whatever decision they decide to make not to criticize
them for going one way or another. 

I mean it boys and girls knock it off already, if I have to shutdown the
list for a few days again to get my point across I'll do it. 
David Ferrin
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a simpler system that worked perfectly.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

[Kurt Miller]

I agree. 2 of the Win 10 computers in the house we had to go and find the
drivers for the printer.
I have upgraded 1 of my computers and the other 1 I am not for various
reasons, it's my choose to do so or not.
This thread is going on forever. It's simple Microsoft wants everyone on 10
and is going to push it on you unless you change your settings and get rid
of it. Some use it and it is fine and some don't want to use it. I hope we
can end this argument about it soon. We all know what's going to or could
happen if we don't change update settings. Microsoft shouldn't be pushing it
but they are and we can't do anything about that.
There are many reasons that one may not want to upgrade and so let them make
their own decision.

After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient
as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy 
Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 11:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of
windows update


Not necessarily.  When I first connected my Samsung laser printer to my
current Windows 7 PC, the OS could not find compatible drivers for it.  This
printer worked fine with my XP PC.  So I had to visit the Samsung downloads
site to find Wimdows 7 drivers for my printer.  You cannot assume that the
OS will always detect compatible drivers for your peripheral devices.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: Kevin
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 10:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of
windows update

the windows 10 OS is capable of detecting the drivers needed as with windows
7 and 8

-Original Message-
From: Gerald Levy
Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 3:33 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of
windows update


And suppose list members take your advice and rush to upgrade to Windows 10
only to discover that their printers and scanners no longer work because
Windows 10 drivers are not available for them.  What then?

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: David Moore
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 2:16 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of
windows update

Hi,
When I upgraded to win10, I did not lose one file, non of my settings were
changed, and everything worked on my computer just like it did before I
upgraded. All I got were many many benefits. Please do not listen to all of
the negative stuff going around out there. Jim Flusche helped a lot of us
learn how to use win10 after many of us installed it. Non of us have had any
trouble and the up date went exactly like it was supposed to. Go win10,
upgrade, and enjoy a great reward.


-Original Message- 
From: Singing Sparrow
Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 2:08 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of
windows update

So all my files, and programs will not be deleted or ereased?

On 12/6/2015 12:26 AM, Dialup@56k wrote:
> Yes, the 'strong' rumour is that the update to Win 10 will happen 
> automatically, IF you have Windows updates set to auto.
> No, the update is painless.  In fact, I upgraded a very sick Win 7 PC last

> week which had multiple software driver issues.
> It is not running smoothly on Win 10.
> 'Caveat Emptor', roughly translates from the Latin as 'Let the buyer 
> Beware'.
> Glen
>
> ***
>
> On Sun-06-Dec-15 3:13 pm, Singing Sparrow wrote:
>> Let me get this straight, Microsoft is going to automattically update
>> people to windows 10 who have windows 7, 8, or 8.1 even if they have not
>> reserved a copy of windows 10 is this correct?
>> If so are your files deleted when  this update/upgrade is complete or
>> are all your files/programs still on the computer intact?
>>
>> On 12/4/2015 8:28 PM, Hans Pauli Sundstein (Jawslist) wrote:
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>> You have to goto the Windows Update, Installed updates, and remove the
>>> kb2952664, kb3035583, and kb3112343.
>>> Don't restart the computer between each removal, but remove all 3
>>> updates before restart.
>>> When the computer is Restarted, goto the Windows Update, and search
>>> for updates, but don't install the updates, but goto the Recommended
>>> updates link, and see, that the just removed updates again is ready
>>> for install.
>>> Uncheck the checkbox by each of these updates, and use the contextmenu
>>> button to get acces to the "Hide update".
>>> When these 3 updates are unchecked and hided, Win10 should no longer
>>> be able to install automatically.
>>>
>>> I Can't garanty, that Microsoft not later comes with a new update,
>>> that will try to get all Windows Users to upgrade to Win10, but let's
>>> see.
>>>
>>> Merry Christmas 

Re: [JAWS-Users] can someone post how to repair jaws please?

[Kevin]

or you can just get the executable jaws version from FS which is correct for 
your jaws version
just run it and if jaws detects the version is already installed it'll give 
you choices: modify, repair or remove


-Original Message- 
From: TheHangMan

Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 7:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can someone post how to repair jaws please?

Hi,
You can run the jaws disc and select to run a repair.

HTH,

Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of joanne
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 9:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] can someone post how to repair jaws please?

Awhile back someone posted 3 ways to repair Jaws. The most helpful way for
me was the third way which was similar to the way I repaired it in older
versions where you go to a place that asked if you wanted to modify or
repair.  Can someone repost the directions?  I was going to open the EXE
file and start the install and try to repair it from there, but as this
option isn't an option anymore I thought I would inquire about a possible
similar way to do this.

joanne
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Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

[TheHangMan]

Hi,
My Dell twine 3 in 1 and my canoscan with Openbook has had no problem with
drivers.
There is nothing wrong in using 2 laptops one running Wind 10 and the other
Wind 7, because jaws is jaws.

And I know that someone is going to have a problem on their hardwear
compatibility.
But, are we suppose to stay living in the caveman era?

Jorge




-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 10:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of
windows update

I personally believe that upgrading to Windows10 needs to be an individual
decision.  No one should be criticized for choosing to upgrade or not to
upgrade.  I am annoyed that Microsoft has taken this approach to force it on
us, but that is not my reason for not upgrading.  My primary reason is that
my employer will not be upgrading to Windows10 anytime soon.  As I grow
older and wiser, I've decided that it is not worth my time and effort to be
running different computer setups at work and home.  There was a time in my
life when I was simultaneously proficient in using Apple IIe, Apple GS,
Apple Mac, and Windows 3.5, as well as able to write computer code in 4
different programming languages.  I now leave the multi-platform use to
others of you on this list.  I monitor the information shared on this list
and tuck it away (or search the archives) when I do need the knowledge.  In
addition, I'm pretty sure that when I do make the decision to upgrade at
home, I will be faced with looking for a new printer and scanner.  As best
as I can tell neither will be supported in Windows10, but since I've been
using them since WindowsXP I am well due for replacements of these devices.


So my holiday which for this list is to continue to see useful information
being shared on this list and no more criticism of people's personal
decisions.  We get enough stuff pushed on us from technology manufacturers.


Happy Holidays to All!!
Annette
 




-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Pursley
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 8:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of
windows update

Here's a thought.  We have until 2020 to use a fully supported Win7 which
works with few problems.  I prefer to use the computer as a productivity
tool and will leave upgrade headaches to others.  When I find that Win10 has
enhancements which will materially help me in my work, then I'll consider
upgrading.  Meanwhile the status quo serves me fine.  My job gives me
challenges enough.

On 12/6/2015 11:15 AM, K. Washington wrote:
> You are so right with this point.
>
> Even things like CD/DVD burners and Blu-ray players stop working due 
> to driver issues with Windows 10. In addition the incompatibility 
> issues JAWS has with the new Microsoft Edge browser makes this a 
> no-brainer for me at least.
>
> I'm still using Windows 7 and will continue to do so as long as possible.
>
> I believe in the saying "If it ain't broke don't fix it."
>
> At 06:33 AM 12/6/2015, you wrote:
>
>> And suppose list members take your advice and rush to upgrade to 
>> Windows 10 only to discover that their printers and scanners no 
>> longer work because Windows 10 drivers are not available for them.
>> What then?
>>
>> Gerald
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message- From: David Moore
>> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 2:16 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware 
>> of windows update
>>
>> Hi,
>> When I upgraded to win10, I did not lose one file, non of my settings 
>> were changed, and everything worked on my computer just like it did 
>> before I upgraded. All I got were many many benefits. Please do not 
>> listen to all of the negative stuff going around out there. Jim 
>> Flusche helped a lot of us learn how to use win10 after many of us 
>> installed it. Non of us have had any trouble and the up date went 
>> exactly like it was supposed to. Go win10, upgrade, and enjoy a great 
>> reward.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Singing Sparrow
>> Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 2:08 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware 
>> of windows update
>>
>> So all my files, and programs will not be deleted or ereased?
>>
>> On 12/6/2015 12:26 AM, Dialup@56k wrote:
>>> Yes, the 'strong' rumour is that the update to Win 10 will happen 
>>> automatically, IF you have Windows updates set to auto.
>>> No, the update is painless.  In fact, I upgraded a very sick Win 7 
>>> PC last week which had multiple software driver issues.
>>> It is not running smoothly on Win 10.
>>> 'Caveat Emptor', roughly translates from the Latin as 

[JAWS-Users] Jaws start up options

[T. Civitello]

Win 10 and Jaws 17.

I am having difficulty with the Jaws start up. Jaws does not start 
automatically nor do I get the Windows chimes at start up. I have followed the 
steps in the Jaws help dialogue:
  a.. Select the Start JAWS at the Log On Screen check box. 
  b.. Clear the Start JAWS after Log On for all Users check box. 
  c.. Select Always in the Start JAWS after Log On for this User combo box. 
  d.. click OK to save settings.
Each time I do the above I get chimes when I click OK and Jaws goes silent and 
I have to hit escape to get it talking again.
When I go back to the dialogue the first two check marks are reversed. 
The same settings are set in the start up wizard. What am I doing wrong?  
Thanks, Tom
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Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

[Kurt Miller]

Thank you David. That is just what I was writing about, ending this thread.
Have a great day.

After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient
as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 12:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of
windows update

Enough of all this bickering, I'm sick of reading all of these messages
going around about do it, don't do it, ETC. 

If a person wants to upgrade or not it is their choice. The list is for
supporting them in whatever decision they decide to make not to criticize
them for going one way or another. 

I mean it boys and girls knock it off already, if I have to shutdown the
list for a few days again to get my point across I'll do it. 
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] setting up laptop

[Rick Justice]

I have used a log-in password since Windows 98.
This is a measure of security for your computer wherever it is located to 
prevent others from accessing it
and making changes without your permission, such as turning off Jaws if they 
don't need it.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message - 
From: "David Moore" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 12:14 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] setting up laptop


Hi,
I also use win10 on my laptop without using a password to log in. I do not
know why so many people think that you should have a password to log in when
it wasn't necessary with Windows 7. It has only been since Windows 8 and
now, 10 that people think that they need a password. I have never had one
and all is great. Have a great one.


-Original Message- 
From: Neil Towery
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2015 3:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] setting up laptop

Yes. I am using a laptop, without a password. Most people don't advise this.
They worry me.
Neil


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Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 3:20 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] setting up laptop

I should have my first laptop in a few hours. To start setting it up can it
be set that no login password is required?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

[Gerald Levy]

And suppose list members take your advice and rush to upgrade to Windows 10 
only to discover that their printers and scanners no longer work because 
Windows 10 drivers are not available for them.  What then?


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: David Moore

Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 2:16 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of 
windows update


Hi,
When I upgraded to win10, I did not lose one file, non of my settings were
changed, and everything worked on my computer just like it did before I
upgraded. All I got were many many benefits. Please do not listen to all of
the negative stuff going around out there. Jim Flusche helped a lot of us
learn how to use win10 after many of us installed it. Non of us have had any
trouble and the up date went exactly like it was supposed to. Go win10,
upgrade, and enjoy a great reward.


-Original Message- 
From: Singing Sparrow

Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 2:08 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of
windows update

So all my files, and programs will not be deleted or ereased?

On 12/6/2015 12:26 AM, Dialup@56k wrote:
Yes, the 'strong' rumour is that the update to Win 10 will happen 
automatically, IF you have Windows updates set to auto.
No, the update is painless.  In fact, I upgraded a very sick Win 7 PC last 
week which had multiple software driver issues.

It is not running smoothly on Win 10.
'Caveat Emptor', roughly translates from the Latin as 'Let the buyer 
Beware'.

Glen

***

On Sun-06-Dec-15 3:13 pm, Singing Sparrow wrote:

Let me get this straight, Microsoft is going to automattically update
people to windows 10 who have windows 7, 8, or 8.1 even if they have not
reserved a copy of windows 10 is this correct?
If so are your files deleted when  this update/upgrade is complete or
are all your files/programs still on the computer intact?

On 12/4/2015 8:28 PM, Hans Pauli Sundstein (Jawslist) wrote:

Hi.

You have to goto the Windows Update, Installed updates, and remove the
kb2952664, kb3035583, and kb3112343.
Don't restart the computer between each removal, but remove all 3
updates before restart.
When the computer is Restarted, goto the Windows Update, and search
for updates, but don't install the updates, but goto the Recommended
updates link, and see, that the just removed updates again is ready
for install.
Uncheck the checkbox by each of these updates, and use the contextmenu
button to get acces to the "Hide update".
When these 3 updates are unchecked and hided, Win10 should no longer
be able to install automatically.

I Can't garanty, that Microsoft not later comes with a new update,
that will try to get all Windows Users to upgrade to Win10, but let's
see.

Merry Christmas to all!
Hans Pauli

-Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Mario
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2015 2:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware
of windows update

Anna, I'm no expert, but your question made me rethink my response I was
going to offer. kb3035583 does not provide any security patch to a
vulnerability, it is merely an update that reminds and facilitates users
of 7 or 8.1 to reserve the free offer of upgrading to 10. so, I think
not having kb3035583 won't necessarily prevent the computer from being
upgraded to windows 10. as for the upgrade being done automatically, I'm
not sure. but heed Gerald's post about changing the settings from
automatic to manual, and uncheck to get recommended updates. after
7/29/16, all worries of automatically being upgraded to windows 10
should be over, and if you're still on 7 or 8.1, it should be safe to
return windows updates to automatic.



On 12/4/2015 1:26 PM, anna vimini wrote:

sorry Gerald I meant Mario,
Yes I remember you saying to uninstall KB 3,35,583 and I did but I left
automatic updates on.
so my question is now with that update missing will windows 10 still be
able to install without me knowing or my permission ?
Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows
update
Anna, In the past, I've suggested to uninstall KB3035583, and then hide
it upon checking for updates, but I think what Gerald is implying is
that if you
leave the settings on windows updates to be performed automatically, 
you

won't have any control as to what gets updated.

On 12/4/2015 12:17 PM, Jim Pursley wrote:
block quote
Updates are divided (in Win7 at least) between important and
recommended.  I never download recommended because I chinstruct Windows
to check for updates and let me decide whether to download and install.
If the Win 10 install is an important upgrade, then you'd have to go
into the details of each upgrade that is connected to the operating
system, not to your other apps like Word, Defender, etc. There is a
link to more information.  The process can be enlightening if you care
for that 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Activating windows defender

[Fred Adams]

Tom, thanks for the info, just what I am looking for.

-Original Message- 
From: T. Civitello

Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 1:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Activating windows defender

I uninstalled MacAfee and Defender activated automatically and switched to
the select scan type of routine, . If you want to put a shortcut for MacAfee
on the desk top locate it in the apps by pressing the windows key and
arrowing up to all apps and pressing the all apps button. Locate Windows
Defender in the list and highlight it, press alt, F10 to bring up the
context menu and arrow to open file location and press enter. This will
bring up the shortcut for Defender. bring up the context menu again, shift,
F10 and arrow down to the send to menu, press alt to open the menu and arrow
down to desktop and press enter.  Tom

-Original Message- 
From: Fred Adams

Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2015 2:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Activating windows defender

Tom, you are exactly right.  I purchased a dell computer and didn't know it
had a 30 day free trial of Mccaffey but I found out today by going to
programs and features. I would like to put an icon for Mccaffey on the
desktop but I have not been able to find out how to do it.

-Original Message- 
From: T. Civitello

Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2015 9:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Activating windows defender

You most likely have another virus program on your computer, as long as it
is there Windows Defender can't be activated. I have the same situation with
the Dell I recently purchased, it has a trial version of MacAfee installed
and the link to Windows Defender won't work.  Tom

-Original Message- 
From: Fred Adams

Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Activating windows defender

I am using W10, WLM and jaws 17 and just purchased a new computer and need
to know how to turn on windows defender.  I want to use W defender for
several weeks until I decide what virus protection I wish to use.  I have
tried several times to turn it on but to no avail.  I will appreciate any
help.

Best wishes,

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Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

[K. Washington]

That's the point those who are imploring everyone to upgrade do not tell you.

You will encounter driver issues with printers, scanners, DVD 
players, USB drives and the list goes on.


If you don't mind loosing the ability to use hardware devices you now 
rely on, then go ahead and upgrade to Windows 10.


A smart person would first do research to make sure their PC and all 
peripheral devices connected is 100% compatible with an OS before 
attempting to use it. If you are one who likes living on the 
"Microsoft" edge, then I guess taking such precautions means nothing.


At 01:26 AM 12/6/2015, you wrote:
Yes, the 'strong' rumour is that the update to Win 10 will happen 
automatically, IF you have Windows updates set to auto.
No, the update is painless.  In fact, I upgraded a very sick Win 7 
PC last week which had multiple software driver issues.

It is not running smoothly on Win 10.
'Caveat Emptor', roughly translates from the Latin as 'Let the buyer Beware'.
Glen

***

On Sun-06-Dec-15 3:13 pm, Singing Sparrow wrote:

Let me get this straight, Microsoft is going to automattically update
people to windows 10 who have windows 7, 8, or 8.1 even if they have not
reserved a copy of windows 10 is this correct?
If so are your files deleted when  this update/upgrade is complete or
are all your files/programs still on the computer intact?

On 12/4/2015 8:28 PM, Hans Pauli Sundstein (Jawslist) wrote:

Hi.

You have to goto the Windows Update, Installed updates, and remove the
kb2952664, kb3035583, and kb3112343.
Don't restart the computer between each removal, but remove all 3
updates before restart.
When the computer is Restarted, goto the Windows Update, and search
for updates, but don't install the updates, but goto the Recommended
updates link, and see, that the just removed updates again is ready
for install.
Uncheck the checkbox by each of these updates, and use the contextmenu
button to get acces to the "Hide update".
When these 3 updates are unchecked and hided, Win10 should no longer
be able to install automatically.

I Can't garanty, that Microsoft not later comes with a new update,
that will try to get all Windows Users to upgrade to Win10, but let's
see.

Merry Christmas to all!
Hans Pauli

-Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Mario
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2015 2:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware
of windows update

Anna, I'm no expert, but your question made me rethink my response I was
going to offer. kb3035583 does not provide any security patch to a
vulnerability, it is merely an update that reminds and facilitates users
of 7 or 8.1 to reserve the free offer of upgrading to 10. so, I think
not having kb3035583 won't necessarily prevent the computer from being
upgraded to windows 10. as for the upgrade being done automatically, I'm
not sure. but heed Gerald's post about changing the settings from
automatic to manual, and uncheck to get recommended updates. after
7/29/16, all worries of automatically being upgraded to windows 10
should be over, and if you're still on 7 or 8.1, it should be safe to
return windows updates to automatic.



On 12/4/2015 1:26 PM, anna vimini wrote:

sorry Gerald I meant Mario,
Yes I remember you saying to uninstall KB 3,35,583 and I did but I left
automatic updates on.
so my question is now with that update missing will windows 10 still be
able to install without me knowing or my permission ?
Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows
update
Anna, In the past, I've suggested to uninstall KB3035583, and then hide
it upon checking for updates, but I think what Gerald is implying is
that if you
leave the settings on windows updates to be performed automatically, you
won't have any control as to what gets updated.

On 12/4/2015 12:17 PM, Jim Pursley wrote:
block quote
Updates are divided (in Win7 at least) between important and
recommended.  I never download recommended because I chinstruct Windows
to check for updates and let me decide whether to download and install.
If the Win 10 install is an important upgrade, then you'd have to go
into the details of each upgrade that is connected to the operating
system, not to your other apps like Word, Defender, etc.  There is a
link to more information.  The process can be enlightening if you care
for that kind of detail.

This said, the Win 10 income in the systems tray came as an important
update..I did not scrutinize the important updates.  And so I warily
proceed.

On 12/4/2015 2:38 PM, anna vimini wrote:
block quote
Gerald if I do that I am clue less of which windows updates I should
or shouldm't download.
this is why I was asking which windows update causes the dialogue to
that was mentioned below to appear?
Re: [JAWS-Users] if your not ready for windows 10 beware of windows
update

To prevent Windows 10 from being installed surreptitiously on your PC
without your knowledge, go to Change Settings in the Windows 

Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

[Jim Pursley]

Here's a thought.  We have until 2020 to use a fully supported Win7 
which works with few problems.  I prefer to use the computer as a 
productivity tool and will leave upgrade headaches to others.  When I 
find that Win10 has enhancements which will materially help me in my 
work, then I'll consider upgrading.  Meanwhile the status quo serves me 
fine.  My job gives me challenges enough.


On 12/6/2015 11:15 AM, K. Washington wrote:

You are so right with this point.

Even things like CD/DVD burners and Blu-ray players stop working due 
to driver issues with Windows 10. In addition the incompatibility 
issues JAWS has with the new Microsoft Edge browser makes this a 
no-brainer for me at least.


I'm still using Windows 7 and will continue to do so as long as possible.

I believe in the saying "If it ain't broke don't fix it."

At 06:33 AM 12/6/2015, you wrote:

And suppose list members take your advice and rush to upgrade to 
Windows 10 only to discover that their printers and scanners no 
longer work because Windows 10 drivers are not available for them.  
What then?


Gerald



-Original Message- From: David Moore
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 2:16 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware 
of windows update


Hi,
When I upgraded to win10, I did not lose one file, non of my settings 
were

changed, and everything worked on my computer just like it did before I
upgraded. All I got were many many benefits. Please do not listen to 
all of
the negative stuff going around out there. Jim Flusche helped a lot 
of us
learn how to use win10 after many of us installed it. Non of us have 
had any

trouble and the up date went exactly like it was supposed to. Go win10,
upgrade, and enjoy a great reward.


-Original Message- From: Singing Sparrow
Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 2:08 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of
windows update

So all my files, and programs will not be deleted or ereased?

On 12/6/2015 12:26 AM, Dialup@56k wrote:
Yes, the 'strong' rumour is that the update to Win 10 will happen 
automatically, IF you have Windows updates set to auto.
No, the update is painless.  In fact, I upgraded a very sick Win 7 
PC last week which had multiple software driver issues.

It is not running smoothly on Win 10.
'Caveat Emptor', roughly translates from the Latin as 'Let the buyer 
Beware'.

Glen

***

On Sun-06-Dec-15 3:13 pm, Singing Sparrow wrote:

Let me get this straight, Microsoft is going to automattically update
people to windows 10 who have windows 7, 8, or 8.1 even if they 
have not

reserved a copy of windows 10 is this correct?
If so are your files deleted when  this update/upgrade is complete or
are all your files/programs still on the computer intact?

On 12/4/2015 8:28 PM, Hans Pauli Sundstein (Jawslist) wrote:

Hi.

You have to goto the Windows Update, Installed updates, and remove 
the

kb2952664, kb3035583, and kb3112343.
Don't restart the computer between each removal, but remove all 3
updates before restart.
When the computer is Restarted, goto the Windows Update, and search
for updates, but don't install the updates, but goto the Recommended
updates link, and see, that the just removed updates again is ready
for install.
Uncheck the checkbox by each of these updates, and use the 
contextmenu

button to get acces to the "Hide update".
When these 3 updates are unchecked and hided, Win10 should no longer
be able to install automatically.

I Can't garanty, that Microsoft not later comes with a new update,
that will try to get all Windows Users to upgrade to Win10, but let's
see.

Merry Christmas to all!
Hans Pauli

-Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Mario
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2015 2:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware
of windows update

Anna, I'm no expert, but your question made me rethink my response 
I was

going to offer. kb3035583 does not provide any security patch to a
vulnerability, it is merely an update that reminds and facilitates 
users

of 7 or 8.1 to reserve the free offer of upgrading to 10. so, I think
not having kb3035583 won't necessarily prevent the computer from 
being
upgraded to windows 10. as for the upgrade being done 
automatically, I'm

not sure. but heed Gerald's post about changing the settings from
automatic to manual, and uncheck to get recommended updates. after
7/29/16, all worries of automatically being upgraded to windows 10
should be over, and if you're still on 7 or 8.1, it should be safe to
return windows updates to automatic.



On 12/4/2015 1:26 PM, anna vimini wrote:

sorry Gerald I meant Mario,
Yes I remember you saying to uninstall KB 3,35,583 and I did but 
I left

automatic updates on.
so my question is now with that update missing will windows 10 
still be

able to install without me knowing or my permission ?
Re: 

Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

[K. Washington]

You are so right with this point.

Even things like CD/DVD burners and Blu-ray players stop working due 
to driver issues with Windows 10. In addition the incompatibility 
issues JAWS has with the new Microsoft Edge browser makes this a 
no-brainer for me at least.


I'm still using Windows 7 and will continue to do so as long as possible.

I believe in the saying "If it ain't broke don't fix it."

At 06:33 AM 12/6/2015, you wrote:

And suppose list members take your advice and rush to upgrade to 
Windows 10 only to discover that their printers and scanners no 
longer work because Windows 10 drivers are not available for them.  What then?


Gerald



-Original Message- From: David Moore
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 2:16 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware 
of windows update


Hi,
When I upgraded to win10, I did not lose one file, non of my settings were
changed, and everything worked on my computer just like it did before I
upgraded. All I got were many many benefits. Please do not listen to all of
the negative stuff going around out there. Jim Flusche helped a lot of us
learn how to use win10 after many of us installed it. Non of us have had any
trouble and the up date went exactly like it was supposed to. Go win10,
upgrade, and enjoy a great reward.


-Original Message- From: Singing Sparrow
Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 2:08 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of
windows update

So all my files, and programs will not be deleted or ereased?

On 12/6/2015 12:26 AM, Dialup@56k wrote:
Yes, the 'strong' rumour is that the update to Win 10 will happen 
automatically, IF you have Windows updates set to auto.
No, the update is painless.  In fact, I upgraded a very sick Win 7 
PC last week which had multiple software driver issues.

It is not running smoothly on Win 10.
'Caveat Emptor', roughly translates from the Latin as 'Let the buyer Beware'.
Glen

***

On Sun-06-Dec-15 3:13 pm, Singing Sparrow wrote:

Let me get this straight, Microsoft is going to automattically update
people to windows 10 who have windows 7, 8, or 8.1 even if they have not
reserved a copy of windows 10 is this correct?
If so are your files deleted when  this update/upgrade is complete or
are all your files/programs still on the computer intact?

On 12/4/2015 8:28 PM, Hans Pauli Sundstein (Jawslist) wrote:

Hi.

You have to goto the Windows Update, Installed updates, and remove the
kb2952664, kb3035583, and kb3112343.
Don't restart the computer between each removal, but remove all 3
updates before restart.
When the computer is Restarted, goto the Windows Update, and search
for updates, but don't install the updates, but goto the Recommended
updates link, and see, that the just removed updates again is ready
for install.
Uncheck the checkbox by each of these updates, and use the contextmenu
button to get acces to the "Hide update".
When these 3 updates are unchecked and hided, Win10 should no longer
be able to install automatically.

I Can't garanty, that Microsoft not later comes with a new update,
that will try to get all Windows Users to upgrade to Win10, but let's
see.

Merry Christmas to all!
Hans Pauli

-Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Mario
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2015 2:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware
of windows update

Anna, I'm no expert, but your question made me rethink my response I was
going to offer. kb3035583 does not provide any security patch to a
vulnerability, it is merely an update that reminds and facilitates users
of 7 or 8.1 to reserve the free offer of upgrading to 10. so, I think
not having kb3035583 won't necessarily prevent the computer from being
upgraded to windows 10. as for the upgrade being done automatically, I'm
not sure. but heed Gerald's post about changing the settings from
automatic to manual, and uncheck to get recommended updates. after
7/29/16, all worries of automatically being upgraded to windows 10
should be over, and if you're still on 7 or 8.1, it should be safe to
return windows updates to automatic.



On 12/4/2015 1:26 PM, anna vimini wrote:

sorry Gerald I meant Mario,
Yes I remember you saying to uninstall KB 3,35,583 and I did but I left
automatic updates on.
so my question is now with that update missing will windows 10 still be
able to install without me knowing or my permission ?
Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows
update
Anna, In the past, I've suggested to uninstall KB3035583, and then hide
it upon checking for updates, but I think what Gerald is implying is
that if you
leave the settings on windows updates to be performed automatically, you
won't have any control as to what gets updated.

On 12/4/2015 12:17 PM, Jim Pursley wrote:
block quote
Updates are divided (in Win7 at least) between important and

Re: [JAWS-Users] Can i get step by step instructions for converting M4A to MP3 files?

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Ron,

Here's a tutorial I wrote on how to use the batch converter, a feature that 
GoldWave has.


This will allow you to do more than one file at a time, and you don't have 
to sit there and wait for the file to decompress in the main window.


If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

***Begin Tutorial***

If you are in the Gold Wave main window, once it opens up, if you press the 
alt+F to get to the file menu, then press the letter B for batch 
conversions, it will open up another dialog box that you can do batch 
conversions with, or you can choose to do just one file, it's up to you.


Once in that dialog box, tab to the button that says add, and press the 
space bar.


Another dialog box will pop up, similar to the save as dialog box, so if you 
know exactly where the file is, go ahead and type it in.  If you don't know 
the exact file location, just do a shift+tab to the window just above the 
one you're in, and backspace four or five times, or until your screen reader 
reads out my documents.


Once it says that, just go ahead and find the folder where the files are 
that you want to convert.


Once you find the files, go ahead and select them, either, contiguously, or 
non-contiguously, and tab to the open button and press the spacebar.


Once you press the open button, you'll land back on the add button.  If you 
have more files you want to convert, just press the add button and go 
through what I just outlined above.


If you don't have anymore files to convert, you can tab to the check box 
that says, convert files to this format.  Make sure this box is checked, so 
you can tell it what to convert the files to.


Once you check that box, tab down to the combo box that asks you what file 
type to convert the files to.  You must want to select the exact file type 
for all the files you want to convert.  You can't do one file type for some 
of the files and another file type for another bunch of files you selected. 
That's why this function is called the batch conversion feature of Gold 
Wave.  You can only convert the files to the same file type.


Once you select the file format you want to convert the files to, tab down 
to the bitrate and frequency selection.
I'm going to assume, for time's sake, that you already know all about 
bitrate and frequency rates, and just continue on from here to the next 
step.


Once you set the bitrate and frequency rates, do a control+tab over to the 
file locations tab to set where you would like Gold Wave to save the 
converted files once their done.


You have two choices here.

You can either choose to save the converted files in their original folders, 
or save them in a different folder.  This I leave up to you, and I can tell 
you that this tab is pretty much self-explanatory, so go ahead and make your 
settings as you see fit.


Once you've made your selection, just tab over to the button that says 
begin, and press the spacebar.


Once a dialog box pops up, with an ok button, you're files are done 
converting, and you can just press the ok button.


You'll land back on the begin button, so just tab over to the cancel button, 
then you'll land on the Gold Wave main window.  You can just alt+F4 out of 
that, and you can go delete the pre-converted files.


Just make sure you clear your recycle bin, as those files will use up a lot 
of space on your computer.


I would also recommend you check the files for length and bitrate choice, as 
you can always go back into your recycle bin and restore the files you 
deleted, so I suggest you check the files before you empty the recycle bin.


If you have any other questions, feel free to ask, and I'll endeavour to 
answer them as quickly as possible.


Victor


-Original Message- 
From: Ron Kolesar

Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 8:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can i get step by step instructions 
forconvertingm4afiles to mp3 files?


   Thanks Keven.
I'm now going to have toinstall goldwave.
I currently have VLC installed though.
So I deeply appreciate this letter.

-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 6:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can i get step by step instructions for
convertingm4afiles to mp3 files?

well with GoldWave all that is needed to do is load your file into GoldWave
after jaws announces file decompression just press alt key, arrow right to
effects then arrow up to convert (sometimes I hear jaws announce invert but
there is no invert so go ahead and select it)
then just alt key select file menu arrow down to save as after typing the
file name if you want to name the file any different  press tab select the
file type you want then tab to save.  your file should save where the
original is  if it's the same name there will be two one in the original
file format and the other in the file format you selected.
I don't know if you can convert file formats in VLC

-Original 

Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] can't authorize jaws

[Lenny McHugh]

yes, I remembered that. I think my install count is used up.

-Original Message- 
From: Don & Cher

Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 8:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] can't authorize jaws

Your serial number is not the same as your auth number- or am I misreading 
your post?


Cher


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Lenny McHugh

Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2015 10:09 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [Bulk] [JAWS-Users] can't authorize jaws

Interesting, the laptop is windows 10 home. My install disk is also for
home. After I installed it it keeps saying jaws professional. We uninstalled
it and re-installed with the same message. I went to enter my jaws serial
number and am informed that it is not a valid number. My serial number is
within the first 50 ever issued. Go figure! I have always stated that I
think pcs should be used as door stops,now I think laptops should be the
door mats...


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Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] can't authorize jaws

[Don & Cher]

Your serial number is not the same as your auth number- or am I misreading your 
post?

Cher


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2015 10:09 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [Bulk] [JAWS-Users] can't authorize jaws

Interesting, the laptop is windows 10 home. My install disk is also for 
home. After I installed it it keeps saying jaws professional. We uninstalled 
it and re-installed with the same message. I went to enter my jaws serial 
number and am informed that it is not a valid number. My serial number is 
within the first 50 ever issued. Go figure! I have always stated that I 
think pcs should be used as door stops,now I think laptops should be the 
door mats...


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Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: can someone post how to repair jaws please?

[Don & Cher]

Had to do this last week, and FS just had me type jfw17/type repair

Cher

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 2:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] can someone post how to repair jaws please?

Hi Joanne,

Here you go:
The steps below are the best, most in depth, and most thorough way of
repairing Jaws according to Freedom Scientific Tech Support.

Note; jaws11 is the example, however, this will work for 12, 13, 14, & 15 as
well.

1. Place a copy of the Jaws executible version that you want to repair into
the main root of the " C " drive.  For example; If you are running Jaws11
most recent you would paste a copy of " J11.0.1430-32bit.exe " into the main
root of the " C " drive.  To open the main  root of the " C " drive, go to
the desktop, press enter on My Computer, press enter on Local disk C, and
now you have the main root of the " C " drive open.
2. With the Jaws " .exe " pasted into the "C" drive, highlight the " .exe ",
and press F2 as if you were going to edit this line of text.  now press
control + C to copy this Jaws executible, press escape to close the edit
field, and press Alt + F4 to close the C drive.
What you want to do is place just the title of the Jaws version into the
Windows Run Dialogue box and not the file.  If you were to place the Jaws
executible into the Run box without copying as you did as per the
instructions above you would have pasted the whole file into the Run Box
instead of just the title.
3. Now that you have just the title copied to the clipboard, press Windows
key + R to open the Run Dialogue Box.  Type, remember to type a capitalC ,"
C:\ " without the quotes or
spaces and press control + V to paste the Jaws title, press your end key to
take the cursor to the end of the title and type in the following " /type
repair" without the quotes but, with the spaces .  Below is what your line
of text should look / read like.

C:\J11.0.1447-32bit.exe /type repair

Read character by character to make sure you have put in the proper spaces,
Forward & back slashes and text.  press the home key to go to the front of
the title and press enter to start the repair.

A 2nd way to do the same thing.
From: Brian Lee

You might have already resolved the problem, but if not here is a link that
you can use to download the newest update for your 64-bit installation of
JAWS.  Information about performing the repair is shown below after the
download link.



ftp://ftp.freedomscientific.com/users/hj/private/WebFiles/JAWS/J11.0.1430-64
bit.exe



After downloading the file you can do the following steps to repair the
installation:



1.  Use Windows key with R to bring up the run dialog box.

2.  Use tab key to the browse button and press spacebar.

3.  Browse to the downloaded JAWS setup file and press enter key.

4.  Use tab key to move to where JAWS says "open colon edit combo", press
the end key and then press spacebar.

5.  Type in /Type repair, (that is first type a slash followed immediately
by the word type then a space and then the word repair.

6.  Use tab key to the OK button and press enter key.

7.  Follow the prompts.

Take care.
Brian Lee

3rd way:
From: Joseph FreeTech
If you want a step-by-step try this...

To run a repair locate the installer for the version of JAWS you are
currently using. Be absolutely certain the version of jaws you are running
and it's installer are identical. JAWS 16.x.y.z must match with JAWS
16.x.y.z.

Press Shift+F10 or Windows applications key then down arrow to the following
entry and press enter:
run as administrator.
Note: you may have to enter your admin password, and you may have to press 
Alt+Y to bypass UAC.

The installation will begin.
Note: JAWS will probably revert back to it's default speed and language as 
if you were installing JAWS for the first time.

After a few clicks during the initial loading process, you will be asked 
what type of installation you would like to complete. Tab through this 
dialogue and choose the following:
repair
Note: this dialogue might show a combo box, which means you should use your 
up or down arrows to choose the repair option.

Tab to "next" and press enter.

The repair will begin and you will hear clicks implying JAWS is doing it's 
thing.

If you need to repeat what was spoken, press Insert+B to read the entire 
screen once again.

Please let me know if this helps, or if you need more info.

Joseph the free tech guy!
All are welcome to write me off list if absolutely any help is needed

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

Take care.
Mike

- Original Message - 
From: joanne
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 6:36 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] can someone post how to repair jaws please?


Awhile back someone posted 3 ways to repair Jaws. The most helpful way for 
me was the third way which was 

[JAWS-Users] airplane mode on laptop

[Lenny McHugh]

Is there any way to  turn airplane mode off and keep it off?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Can i get step by step instructions for convertingm4afiles to mp3 files?

[Ron Kolesar]

   Thanks Keven.
I'm now going to have toinstall goldwave.
I currently have VLC installed though.
So I deeply appreciate this letter.

-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 6:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can i get step by step instructions for
convertingm4afiles to mp3 files?

well with GoldWave all that is needed to do is load your file into GoldWave
after jaws announces file decompression just press alt key, arrow right to
effects then arrow up to convert (sometimes I hear jaws announce invert but
there is no invert so go ahead and select it)
then just alt key select file menu arrow down to save as after typing the
file name if you want to name the file any different  press tab select the
file type you want then tab to save.  your file should save where the
original is  if it's the same name there will be two one in the original
file format and the other in the file format you selected.
I don't know if you can convert file formats in VLC

-Original Message- 
From: Ron Kolesar

Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 2:55 PM
To: JAWS Mailing List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Can i get step by step instructions for converting
m4afiles to mp3 files?

Hi to all.
I have both goldwave but not yet installed, but I do have VLC installed.
Would anyone have good step by step instructions for converting m4a files to
mp3 files?
For we Victor Reader Stream version 2 owners.
VRS will play m4a files in the music bookshelf.
But you can not fast forward or rewind the file.
Plus, it’s looking like when I go to try to play a different audio m4a
formatted tutorial, it plays only the one file.
So I’d like to listen to Jim’s tutorials on my small VRS unit to be easier
to follow along.
Until I pick up a couple of USB to nine pen adaptors so that I can have my
dec-talk express back.
Because everything coming out of the speakers will drive you nuts. SMILES.
So many many thanks.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

[Don & Cher]

I don't know about that... I started this thread when I chose download don't
upgrade from a window which popped up after an automatic windows update.

Cher


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Singing Sparrow
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2015 11:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware
of windows update

Let me get this straight, Microsoft is going to automattically update people
to windows 10 who have windows 7, 8, or 8.1 even if they have not reserved a
copy of windows 10 is this correct?
If so are your files deleted when  this update/upgrade is complete or are
all your files/programs still on the computer intact?

On 12/4/2015 8:28 PM, Hans Pauli Sundstein (Jawslist) wrote:
> Hi.
>
> You have to goto the Windows Update, Installed updates, and remove the 
> kb2952664, kb3035583, and kb3112343.
> Don't restart the computer between each removal, but remove all 3 
> updates before restart.
> When the computer is Restarted, goto the Windows Update, and search 
> for updates, but don't install the updates, but goto the Recommended 
> updates link, and see, that the just removed updates again is ready 
> for install.
> Uncheck the checkbox by each of these updates, and use the contextmenu 
> button to get acces to the "Hide update".
> When these 3 updates are unchecked and hided, Win10 should no longer 
> be able to install automatically.
>
> I Can't garanty, that Microsoft not later comes with a new update, 
> that will try to get all Windows Users to upgrade to Win10, but let's 
> see.
>
> Merry Christmas to all!
> Hans Pauli
>
> -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Mario
> Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2015 2:24 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware 
> of windows update
>
> Anna, I'm no expert, but your question made me rethink my response I 
> was going to offer. kb3035583 does not provide any security patch to a 
> vulnerability, it is merely an update that reminds and facilitates 
> users of 7 or 8.1 to reserve the free offer of upgrading to 10. so, I 
> think not having kb3035583 won't necessarily prevent the computer from 
> being upgraded to windows 10. as for the upgrade being done 
> automatically, I'm not sure. but heed Gerald's post about changing the 
> settings from automatic to manual, and uncheck to get recommended 
> updates. after 7/29/16, all worries of automatically being upgraded to 
> windows 10 should be over, and if you're still on 7 or 8.1, it should 
> be safe to return windows updates to automatic.
>
>
>
> On 12/4/2015 1:26 PM, anna vimini wrote:
>> sorry Gerald I meant Mario,
>> Yes I remember you saying to uninstall KB 3,35,583 and I did but I 
>> left automatic updates on.
>> so my question is now with that update missing will windows 10 still 
>> be able to install without me knowing or my permission ?
>> Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of 
>> windows update Anna, In the past, I've suggested to uninstall 
>> KB3035583, and then hide it upon checking for updates, but I think 
>> what Gerald is implying is that if you leave the settings on windows 
>> updates to be performed automatically, you won't have any control as 
>> to what gets updated.
>>
>> On 12/4/2015 12:17 PM, Jim Pursley wrote:
>> block quote
>> Updates are divided (in Win7 at least) between important and 
>> recommended.  I never download recommended because I chinstruct 
>> Windows to check for updates and let me decide whether to download and
install.
>> If the Win 10 install is an important upgrade, then you'd have to go 
>> into the details of each upgrade that is connected to the operating 
>> system, not to your other apps like Word, Defender, etc.  There is a 
>> link to more information.  The process can be enlightening if you 
>> care for that kind of detail.
>>
>> This said, the Win 10 income in the systems tray came as an important 
>> update..I did not scrutinize the important updates.  And so I warily 
>> proceed.
>>
>> On 12/4/2015 2:38 PM, anna vimini wrote:
>> block quote
>> Gerald if I do that I am clue less of which windows updates I should 
>> or shouldm't download.
>> this is why I was asking which windows update causes the dialogue to 
>> that was mentioned below to appear?
>> Re: [JAWS-Users] if your not ready for windows 10 beware of windows 
>> update
>>
>> To prevent Windows 10 from being installed surreptitiously on your PC 
>> without your knowledge, go to Change Settings in the Windows Update 
>> dialog, and in the combo box choose the option labeled "check for 
>> updates but let me choose whether to download and install them."  
>> Also, uncheck the box labeled "get recommended updates the same way I 
>> receive important updates."
>>
>> Gerald
>>
>> -Original Message- From: anna vimini
>> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 10:21 AM

Re: [JAWS-Users] airplane mode on laptop

[Dave Carlson]

Lenny,

Most laptops have a switch or a Fn key combination to turn on/off the 
airplane mode. This is actually a switch to turn Wi-fi on and off, and in 
some cases, also Bluetooth.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Lenny McHugh" 
To: "JFW List" 
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 06:55 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] airplane mode on laptop


Is there any way to  turn airplane mode off and keep it off?


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[JAWS-Users] No acrobat reader on new Toshiba Win 10 laptop

[Sharon Gosling]

Setting up my new Toshiba laptop and the frustration is almost overwhelming at 
times.  At least when people upgrade to Win 10 they already have all their apps 
still installed. Learning a new system, a new keyboard, and trying to install 
programs is a challenge.
Maybe the touch screen on the new laptop will come in handy for things like 
iTunes that cause super problems for me.
So my first question is where do I get Acrobat reader safely and which version 
do I need?  The users manual for the laptop is a pdf that insists on opening in 
Edge which sucks.
I do have Firefox installed and listed as the default. The IE that was on here 
has extreme problems working with Win 10. 
Thanks for advice about Acrobat for now.
Sherrie Gosling
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws old disks

[Dave Carlson]

Lenny,

I wouldn't worry about your JAWS serial number. What can possibly happen if 
a miscreant get hold of that? In any case, just burn those CD covers, if 
you're worried.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Lenny McHugh" 
To: "JFW List" 
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 06:28 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws old disks


I just went to get my authorization disk and what a pile of jfw disks were
with it. I have versions from 4.5 through 16 that I tossed the cds. Now for
the envelopes, I think that they are too thick for my shredder. Since my
serial number is written on the folders I am not sure if I just want to put
them in the cardboard recycle or trash.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] can someone post how to repair jaws please?

[Mike B]

Hi Joanne,

Here you go:
The steps below are the best, most in depth, and most thorough way of
repairing Jaws according to Freedom Scientific Tech Support.

Note; jaws11 is the example, however, this will work for 12, 13, 14, & 15 as 
well.

1. Place a copy of the Jaws executible version that you want to repair into
the main root of the " C " drive.  For example; If you are running Jaws11
most recent you would paste a copy of " J11.0.1430-32bit.exe " into the main
root of the " C " drive.  To open the main  root of the " C " drive, go to
the desktop, press enter on My Computer, press enter on Local disk C, and
now you have the main root of the " C " drive open.
2. With the Jaws " .exe " pasted into the "C" drive, highlight the " .exe
", and press F2 as if you were going to edit this line of text.  now press
control + C to copy this Jaws executible, press escape to close the edit
field, and press Alt + F4 to close the C drive.
What you want to do is place just the title of the Jaws version into the
Windows Run Dialogue box and not the file.  If you were to place the Jaws
executible into the Run box without copying as you did as per the
instructions above you would have pasted the whole file into the Run Box
instead of just the title.
3. Now that you have just the title copied to the clipboard, press Windows
key + R to open the Run Dialogue Box.  Type, remember to type a capitalC ,"
C:\ " without the quotes or
spaces and press control + V to paste the Jaws title, press your end key to
take the cursor to the end of the title and type in the following " /type
repair" without the quotes but, with the spaces .  Below is what your line
of text should look / read like.

C:\J11.0.1447-32bit.exe /type repair

Read character by character to make sure you have put in the proper spaces,
Forward & back slashes and text.  press the home key to go to the front of
the title and press enter to start the repair.

A 2nd way to do the same thing.
From: Brian Lee

You might have already resolved the problem, but if not here is a link that
you can use to download the newest update for your 64-bit installation of
JAWS.  Information about performing the repair is shown below after the
download link.



ftp://ftp.freedomscientific.com/users/hj/private/WebFiles/JAWS/J11.0.1430-64
bit.exe



After downloading the file you can do the following steps to repair the
installation:



1.  Use Windows key with R to bring up the run dialog box.

2.  Use tab key to the browse button and press spacebar.

3.  Browse to the downloaded JAWS setup file and press enter key.

4.  Use tab key to move to where JAWS says "open colon edit combo", press
the end key and then press spacebar.

5.  Type in /Type repair, (that is first type a slash followed immediately
by the word type then a space and then the word repair.

6.  Use tab key to the OK button and press enter key.

7.  Follow the prompts.

Take care.
Brian Lee

3rd way:
From: Joseph FreeTech
If you want a step-by-step try this...

To run a repair locate the installer for the version of JAWS you are 
currently using. Be absolutely certain the version of jaws you are running 
and it's installer are identical. JAWS 16.x.y.z must match with JAWS 
16.x.y.z.

Press Shift+F10 or Windows applications key then down arrow to the following 
entry and press enter:
run as administrator.
Note: you may have to enter your admin password, and you may have to press 
Alt+Y to bypass UAC.

The installation will begin.
Note: JAWS will probably revert back to it's default speed and language as 
if you were installing JAWS for the first time.

After a few clicks during the initial loading process, you will be asked 
what type of installation you would like to complete. Tab through this 
dialogue and choose the following:
repair
Note: this dialogue might show a combo box, which means you should use your 
up or down arrows to choose the repair option.

Tab to "next" and press enter.

The repair will begin and you will hear clicks implying JAWS is doing it's 
thing.

If you need to repeat what was spoken, press Insert+B to read the entire 
screen once again.

Please let me know if this helps, or if you need more info.

Joseph the free tech guy!
All are welcome to write me off list if absolutely any help is needed

Take care.
Mike
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Take care.
Mike

- Original Message - 
From: joanne
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 6:36 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] can someone post how to repair jaws please?


Awhile back someone posted 3 ways to repair Jaws. The most helpful way for 
me was the third way which was similar to the way I repaired it in older 
versions where you go to a place that asked if you wanted to modify or 
repair.  Can someone repost the directions?  I was going to open the EXE 
file and start the install and try to repair it from there, but as this 
option isn't an option anymore I thought I would inquire about a possible 

[JAWS-Users] After updating to seventeen

[LeDon Becker]

I updated from jaws sixteen to jaws seventeen.. Now for a question. Do I now 
have jaws sixteen and seventeen on my computer at the same time? How do I find 
out. And if I do still have jaws sixteen on my computer, how do I remove it? 
Thank you. 
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