Re: [JAWS-Users] Daisy Books?
The jaws Basic Training does come in audio. I think much better than explaining on here is you trying it out. Install the FS Reader program that comes with your jaws cd and use it to play the training material. It is quite hard to explain and understandsomething that you are not familiar with. Also, you may want to look at http://www.daisy.org/ which is the home of the DAISY Project. It will probably explain what Daisy is all about far better than my feeble attempts at doing so. hth Doris At 09:27 PM 8/11/2012 -0400, you wrote: I really appreciate your help, even though I am not the Richard you are thinking of. Now that you mention it, I am aware of the NLS using Daisy format and that is why I got confused seeing it listed in JAWS. I assumed that any help topic would be read by JAWS and still don't understand why JAWS would use Daisy format. Unless, the help topic is an audio item? Thanks for your patience and help. Rich - Original Message - From: Doris and Chris chipmu...@gmx.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 10:36 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Daisy Books? Hi, Richard, Are you not the Richard I know from first for-the-people and more recently from anohter chat site? NLS is short for National Library Service and it traditionally had audio books on 4-track tapes that required special hardware players to play the cassette tapes. more recently they have gone to digital audio books that either come on cartridges for their hproprietary players or such players like the Victor Stream. you cannot play the nls books with windows media player but they are talking books. the jaws tutorials can be had in either daisy or mp3 format. If you are more comfortable using Winamp or windows media player, you can get them in mp3 format and use them that way. And sorry if I got you mixed up with another Richard. hth Doris At 10:11 PM 8/10/2012 -0400, you wrote: Thank you so much for this info. I am sloly beginning to understand. Is Daisy books kind of like media player? What is, NLS? Rich - Original Message - From: Doris and Chris chipmu...@gmx.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Daisy Books? Dear Sir Richard, The jaws tutoirals and help files FS puts out come in daisy format. Daisy is an accessible audio and/or text that provides for easy navigation by the reader. If you get nls contnet from the BARD download site, this is in daisy format also. While nls content requires a hardware player, many daisy books can be read on the computer. the FS reader program that comes budnled with jaws is such a daisy player program. Once you get the hang of it, you'll appreciate it I am sure. hth Doris At 07:25 PM 8/10/2012 -0400, you wrote: Hi all; I apologize if this question is too basic. I've noticed on the updates list in 13.0, many topics to update had Daisy book at the end. For example, Convenient OCR daisy book. Could someone explain what that means? Is that update only to be used when using daisy book? What is Daisy books? Thank you for the enlightenment! Rich For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Daisy Books?
Dear Sir Richard, The jaws tutoirals and help files FS puts out come in daisy format. Daisy is an accessible audio and/or text that provides for easy navigation by the reader. If you get nls contnet from the BARD download site, this is in daisy format also. While nls content requires a hardware player, many daisy books can be read on the computer. the FS reader program that comes budnled with jaws is such a daisy player program. Once you get the hang of it, you'll appreciate it I am sure. hth Doris At 07:25 PM 8/10/2012 -0400, you wrote: Hi all; I apologize if this question is too basic. I've noticed on the updates list in 13.0, many topics to update had Daisy book at the end. For example, Convenient OCR daisy book. Could someone explain what that means? Is that update only to be used when using daisy book? What is Daisy books? Thank you for the enlightenment! Rich For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Daisy Books?
Hi, Richard, Are you not the Richard I know from first for-the-people and more recently from anohter chat site? NLS is short for National Library Service and it traditionally had audio books on 4-track tapes that required special hardware players to play the cassette tapes. more recently they have gone to digital audio books that either come on cartridges for their hproprietary players or such players like the Victor Stream. you cannot play the nls books with windows media player but they are talking books. the jaws tutorials can be had in either daisy or mp3 format. If you are more comfortable using Winamp or windows media player, you can get them in mp3 format and use them that way. And sorry if I got you mixed up with another Richard. hth Doris At 10:11 PM 8/10/2012 -0400, you wrote: Thank you so much for this info. I am sloly beginning to understand. Is Daisy books kind of like media player? What is, NLS? Rich - Original Message - From: Doris and Chris chipmu...@gmx.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Daisy Books? Dear Sir Richard, The jaws tutoirals and help files FS puts out come in daisy format. Daisy is an accessible audio and/or text that provides for easy navigation by the reader. If you get nls contnet from the BARD download site, this is in daisy format also. While nls content requires a hardware player, many daisy books can be read on the computer. the FS reader program that comes budnled with jaws is such a daisy player program. Once you get the hang of it, you'll appreciate it I am sure. hth Doris At 07:25 PM 8/10/2012 -0400, you wrote: Hi all; I apologize if this question is too basic. I've noticed on the updates list in 13.0, many topics to update had Daisy book at the end. For example, Convenient OCR daisy book. Could someone explain what that means? Is that update only to be used when using daisy book? What is Daisy books? Thank you for the enlightenment! Rich For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Maximizing windows
Search for a program named autosizer. the latest version is supposed to work with win 7. No chance to check for myself, though, as I am still on xp. hth Doris At 03:23 AM 8/9/2012 -0400, you wrote: I am using W7, outlook 2010 and latest jaws and I would appreciate it if someone could refresh my memory on how to maximize windows while on the internet. I have checked out the jaws-users home site several times but can't find anything. I thought there was something on the programs page but I went over it several times and could locate nothing. I should know how to do this but I sure can't remember how. Thanks much, FRED ADAMS W4HC For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS stopped announcing online status for Skype
just reinstall the version of Mr. Lee's skype scripts you were using. jaws 13 update installed its own set of skype scripts that probably do not come with skypewatch or an equivalent. hth Doris At 07:37 PM 8/2/2012 +0800, you wrote: Hi When someone comes online to Skype, not only do I hear a tone, JAWS will also read the name of the person who has just came online. However, for the past few days, I only hear the tone but JAWS did not announce the names. Could it be because that I have updated to JAWS 13.0.1005? Or do you know what settings for JAWS I need to make? I'm using a Windows 7 64-BIT laptop running the latest version of Skype 5. Thank you for any help. Best Regards Siew Ling For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] question regarding wordweb
The latest version definitley is and accessible without the need for any scripts or configuration files. hth Doris At 06:22 PM 8/2/2012 +0530, you wrote: hi all kindly can any1 tell me is wordweb dictionary compatible with window 7? thanks in advance regards For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] nls bard and jaws 13
How about jaws latest update and firefox? Thanks much. Doris At 12:32 PM 7/31/2012 -0400, you wrote: From the well worn thread on this subject it looks like people with 32 bit Windows 7 and possibly XP are having the issue and not 64 bit computers. I also have had absolutely no issues on any web site since the update on my 64 bit windows 7 machine running Jaws 13 with the latest update. -Original Message- From: RJ Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 12:22 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] nls bard and jaws 13 The problem is with I E 8 and J13 update - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 7:31 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] nls bard and jaws 13 I just left that web site and my experience was trouble free for what it's worth. Windows 7 64 bit with IE 9. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Norman King Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 7:20 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] nls bard and jaws 13 Hi. I don't know what else it could be. You could try making another account but I don't have any idea if this would fix the problem -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 10:11 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] nls bard and jaws 13 This is most interesting. I just had my wife try it from her Macbook with the same results. -Original Message- From: RJ Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 7:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] nls bard and jaws 13 If you are using I E 9, there should be no problem. I E 8, you will have to update the screen manually. - Original Message - From: Norman King norbk...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] nls bard and jaws 13 Hi. It's not bard. I can log in just fine. I use internet explorer 8 and 9. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 7:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] nls bard and jaws 13 it is not jaws. My wife can not log in and jaws is not running. I later want her to try and log in on her macbook. If she can not the problem is at the barb site. -Original Message- From: Norman King Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 7:05 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] nls bard and jaws 13 Hi. Do you have another screen reader on your machine? If so you could try using that screen reader to enter the password and see if it works. That will tell you if the problem is jaws or not. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 4:37 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] nls bard and jaws 13 no, they have been working on it and they set up the temp password. It gets messed up from my computer to their server. They go into my account establish a new password and send it to me. Then it fails when I try to log in. -Original Message- From: Norman King Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 3:24 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] nls bard and jaws 13 Hi. It sounds like there is something wrong with your account. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 3:07 PM To: JFW List Subject: [JAWS-Users] nls bard and jaws 13 The problem is not at all with jaws 13 latest build. I have no idea where it is. I had several new ones sent and tried with jaws 12 and it failed. Another new temp was sent to me and tried it with jaws 11. I had them send me yet another. This time I unloaded jaws and had my wife enter the temp password and it failed. . --- Please visit my home page, it is motivational, educational, inspirational with a touch of humor. There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind. http://www.LennyMcHugh.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about
Re: [JAWS-Users] latest Jaws update
Dear Mr. Dave, I have followed only part of this thread as I do not have access to bard myself. However, is this a script issue or a problem with code in the latest jaws executable itself? I am wondreing if going back to the scripts from the previous build of jaws 13 would fix the issue or if an autorefresh command could be added to the current build's vsiion to automatically refresh the page. Thanks much. Doris At 10:13 AM 7/28/2012 -0400, you wrote: Speaking for myself although my systems are mission critical to me it is not the same as a work environment so I only answer to myself. Honestly it is not such a major issue as some folks are making it out to be, at least not for me. David Ferrin Compromise is never good if it means sacrificing a principle. - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi d...@andrew.cmu.edu To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] latest Jaws update I'm sure glad that my years in the I T field have jaded me against running out and installing stuff the day it is released. I want to thank all of you brave souls for testing out the updates for me. *GRIN* -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Senior Oracle Database Administrator Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] [JAWS-Users is ninite a free program?
ninite is not a program but a website at www.ninite.com It allows you to upgrade or install about 90 applications currently. You then download a small online instaler that downloads and installs the selected apps for you without toolbars adware etc. hth Doris At 11:36 AM 7/9/2012 -0400, you wrote: I've read so much about Ninite on this list and I'd like to try it. However, I don't seem to understand, is it free or not? If not, how can I decide if it works for me without paying for it first? It looks like a great program, but Windows7 hasn't been as friendly to me as previous versions of Windows. And speaking of programs, has anyone heard of one called Speedmax? I asked this a few weeks ago, but since I received no response I'm assuming no one has. Is that correct? I'm running Windows7 with latest version of JAWS 13. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Jo For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] making a CD
You have taken the plunge and gone Win 7 at last, Ms. Becky? *smile* My personal favorite among cd burners that are free and accessible is one called Infragrecorder This program is free and open source. It handles all kinds of cd and dvd formats, audio cd's among those. I do not know the homepage for Infrarecorder at the moment but it is probably hosted either on Source forge or Googlecode. However, the most painless method of getting it is probably from www.ninite.com hth Doris At 12:59 PM 7/2/2012 -0400, you wrote: Hi all. Using Windows 7 and JAWS 13, what is an accessible burner for audio files? Thanks. Becky For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] CDEX AGAIN
1.7 is beta 2 of cdex, 1.6 is beta1. A newer stable version was never released. hth Doris At 05:14 AM 6/18/2012 -0700, you wrote: I am using 1.7 is this an update? I did uninstall and reinstall what I had. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Alan Pollard Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 12:21 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] CDEX AGAIN Hi Brad, sorry to hear about your problem,I can send you the U R L for a link for a new install of cd ex version, 151, would that help? Alan - Original Message - From: brad daredevi...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 7:04 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] CDEX AGAIN I MESSED THINGS UP WHEN I REPARTITIONED MY MUSIC TO THE d drive and not sure how to fix everything in cdex. I don't even know where to begin. Is there anyone that would be willing to tandom with me with jaws 13 and fix this problem. I cannot extract music from the cd driver anymore and I am getting frustrated. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2433/5076 - Release Date: 06/17/12 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] CDEX AGAIN
I cannot tandem but just try going into cdex's settings by hitting the f4 function key and select the right drive and path to your music directory. hth Doris At 02:04 PM 6/17/2012 -0700, you wrote: I MESSED THINGS UP WHEN I REPARTITIONED MY MUSIC TO THE d drive and not sure how to fix everything in cdex. I don't even know where to begin. Is there anyone that would be willing to tandom with me with jaws 13 and fix this problem. I cannot extract music from the cd driver anymore and I am getting frustrated. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Firefox 13 Accessibility
I found I had been upgraded to Firefox 13.0.0 and ran into a rather bizarre problem: When opening a link in firefox, I found myself in Windows Explorer instead with jaws unable to read the folder content. ;-p Has anyone else experienced this and is there a solution? Thanks much. Doris For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Hotspot Clicker anyone or Taming a Talking Pony
Starting with version 1.63, the one-click host download manager Mipony that i use for sites such as rapidshare, sendspace and others has started talking to me delivering advertizing. since I often hitch up my little pony and let it do its job over night, having it talk and nicker at me constantly is more than a little annoying. The solution to this unwanted chatter is to close the embedded mini browser but this part of Mipony is inaccessible. There is a cross in the upper righthand corner of the embedded minibrowser tab to close the browser but jaws does not see this even with graphics set to all and jumps right over it. Is it possible to get hotspot clicker to click this cross shut, possibly getting this set up with one-time sighted assistance? Thanks bunches. Doris For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] num lock and off
this is a setting set either in cmos - not, in general, accessible to the blind - or, for jaws, determined as a jaws setting. the default in jaws is to start with the numlock disabled to use it as jaws's reading keypad. hth Doris At 09:12 PM 5/12/2012 -0700, you wrote: sugar, there is a setting in the first run dialog (and therefore in the settings tree/dialog) that turns the num lock off at startup of jaws by default, this may be what keeps switching it, although on an xp machine it does this initially but not at random if i turn num lock on, it stays on until i reboot or i turn it off. that initial setting could be at fault, or if your using a netbook, there is on some a overriding set of settings built into the f keys and sometimes other keys on them that could be at fault as well. a third thing is if your using a multi media keyboard that requires its own software, that could cause troubles. hope one of my musings helps you find your problem! inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises own the might and majesty of an alacorn www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com - Original Message - From: Sugar sugarsy...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 8:00 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] num lock and off nope, I am talking about all times of the day while I am on jaws I put lock on, and type away and the next time I go to the num pad, the num lock is off again, and I am always having to turn it on everytime I want to use it. it does not stay on lock mode sugar I would rather walk with God in the dark than go alone in the light. ~Blessed, Sugar - Original Message - From: Norman King norbk...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] num lock and off Are you talking about when you restart your jaws? -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sugar Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 12:57 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] num lock and off Hello all my mum lock does not stay on lock any suggestions? Sugar I would rather walk with God in the dark than go alone in the light. ~Blessed, Sugar For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 13 and windows 8
I have not had opportunity to work with win 8 nor with a non-demo copy of jaws but I hthink things should work within limitations. For one, in win 8, jawss video intercept is gone and jaws will need to make do with the tools win8 itself offers. Set jaws to use msaa for list views. you can enable this globally within default.cfg. The option was first introduced in jaws 4.0.x and win xp and has always been there since but only been used on demand. hth Doris At 05:51 PM 5/11/2012 +0800, you wrote: hi alll, anyone has a chance to use windows 8 beta with Jaws 13? does it working well in it. or we have to wait Jaws 14 later this year? Ming msn/window live messenger chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com skype: chungchiming9950 blog/ xanga http://www.xanga.com/chungchiming For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Is FS Really Giving Up On JAWS 13?
I would not give anything to such statements unless they officialy come from FS themselves. It is fact that often fixes only come with new jaws releases but on the other hand, FS several times also backported important features to previous versions of jaws. Let's just wait if there is an official statement and not discuss or speculate on nonexistent problems. hth Doris At 06:54 AM 5/10/2012 -0400, you wrote: This interesting piece of news was posted on another JAWS-related list, so I can't vouch for its reliability: A tech from FS was reported to have told a seminar at the CSUN conference that FS does not plan on working on JAWS 13 any longer, it is too much of a mess. They advised customers to wait for JAWS 14, which is where the new fixes will be. I wonder whether there is any truth to this rumor? Gerald For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] switching sound cards
In jaws 10 and up, there is an option to change the default soundcard that jaws uses thru the utility menu. The above option has always been available but required manually editing the default.jfg file. you change the default sound device windows uses in the sound applet in control panel. Most audio related programs will also have an option that allows you to select the audio device the program uses independent of the default system sound device. This is nothing that can be done with a hotkey though either. hth Doris At 10:23 AM 5/7/2012 -0700, you wrote: Ok, I looked at changing sound card assignments, I think it was called but what you did is something I already knew and wasn't looking for but after speaking with others, I don't think a hotkey type of situation would do such a thing. Your pages are awesome, though. Great tips and tricks up there. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 6:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] switching sound cards All of that information is on the web site in various locations, just go to the different pages and search for the word sound to find out what you are after. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. - Original Message - From: Kimsan kimsans...@aol.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] switching sound cards How about both methods... Thanks -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 6:39 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] switching sound cards Do you mean for windows or just for JAWS? David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. - Original Message - From: Kimsan kimsans...@aol.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 8:46 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] switching sound cards Hi, What is the quickest way to switch between sound cards? Thanks. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] External sound cards was external sd cards
while I agree that many have the technical know-how to run a list like this one or do tech support on site as you do, many do not have the interst or patience to do the follow-up you do. this is what I appreciate most about you. so triple cheers to you as our list daddy! *smile* Cheers, Doris At 12:44 PM 5/7/2012 -0700, you wrote: You're welcome! Kimsan Song Online Access Technology Trainer www.BlindAccessTraining.com where we offer screen reader and web design training -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 12:36 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] External sound cards was external sd cards I sort of figured that, I just tried to point out that there quite a large number of people who could manage such a list if they put their mind to doing it. Never the less I do thank you for the compliment. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. - Original Message - From: Kimsan kimsans...@aol.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 3:30 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] External sound cards was external sd cards I was just trying to compliment you in a round-about-way David. No sarcasm, no none of that. Absolute 0 with you starting and running a list. Just giving props where it deserves. Peace! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] the latest jaws update
Dear Mr. Dave, Would you please care to post an explanation of this procedure? I am not sure I understand how a text file is supposed to help with copying over personal custom scripts. Thanks bunches. Doris At 01:36 PM 4/25/2012 -0400, you wrote: Fortunately for me I made a default text file some years ago so all I have to do is copy it in and assign a few key strokes. Not too many as a while back I figured out how to create interactive script files so a single key stroke simply brings up a menu. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dan Rossi Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 1:33 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] the latest jaws update YIKES! That's a God aweful work around. remove all of my default customizations and redo them? Certainly not impossible, but SHEESH! -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel:(412) 268-9081 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] the latest jaws update
I'll gladly wait. I mostly understood Mr. Eric's explanation but not that of your text file. If Mr. Eric is going to explain your text file, then by all means. Thanks much. Doris At 04:28 PM 4/25/2012 -0400, you wrote: Stand by until tomorrow as it is my understanding further instructions are on their way from FS. I'm a former programmer and we learned how to save source code in creative ways. The phrase was that we don't reinvent the wheel, if it's out there and working keep using it. Eric just wrote to me which is how I know things are coming in the pipeline. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. - Original Message - From: Doris and Chris chipmu...@gmx.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] the latest jaws update Dear Mr. Dave, Would you please care to post an explanation of this procedure? I am not sure I understand how a text file is supposed to help with copying over personal custom scripts. Thanks bunches. Doris At 01:36 PM 4/25/2012 -0400, you wrote: Fortunately for me I made a default text file some years ago so all I have to do is copy it in and assign a few key strokes. Not too many as a while back I figured out how to create interactive script files so a single key stroke simply brings up a menu. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dan Rossi Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 1:33 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] the latest jaws update YIKES! That's a God aweful work around. remove all of my default customizations and redo them? Certainly not impossible, but SHEESH! -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel:(412) 268-9081 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the jaws scripts for personal alarm plug in
Actually, since the scripts were written for jaws 4.5.1 originally, this is the location that jaws will look in by default. You need to manually give the path to your script directory. since jaws 4.5.1 did not differentiate between personal and all user settings at the time, I personally put my personal alarm scripts in my all user settings directory and this has worked well for me for several years and several versions. hth Doris At 07:02 AM 4/19/2012 -0400, you wrote: You must make certain that the script files are correctly located in your settings\enu folder first of all. I do not believe they will work if they are not in there as JAWS looks in that location for them and is not set to search the entire computer. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of korbamukesh Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 12:15 AM To: jaws-users-list Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding the jaws scripts for personal alarm plug in Hello, Did someone on the list used PersonalAlarm plug in for jaws? If so I would like to know about the steps followed by me to add the scripts for jaws. Since I have running multiple versions of Jaws 12 and 13 on the same computer, pressed Insert+0, then closed the script manager before continuing to the steps below. After using the installer, there was a subfolder in my start menu labeled Gutterstar. It contained another subfolder labeled PersonalAlarm. In the PersonalAlarm folder, I have notice a shortcut labeled 1 PersonalAlarm.jss Clicked on the shortcut labeled 1 PersonalAlarm.jss The file got opened in the Jaws script manager. Once opened, pressed Control+S. To complete compile scripts and here I should get the message that scripts are compiled and complete. But here I ggot the following error: Script Load Error The file C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\12.0\Settings\enu\PersonalAlarm.JSB could not be opened OK Then I pressed Control+Shift+D. doing this, opened Default.jss Pressed Control+End, then pressed enter key couple of times. At the bottom of the file, typed the following line, Use PersonalAlarm.jsb then press enter. Pressed Control+S once again, then close the file. After doing these steps, I should have got the confirmation of successfully adding the scripts for personal alarm plugin but again I got the same error. so please tell me where i have made the mistake? how to rectify the same? requesting your kind cooperation. thanks, mukesh. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the jaws scripts for xp and office2003
What scripts are these? I must have missed the original post. would you mind resending the link, or, not to clutter up the list, just send me the scripts privately to chipmu...@gmx.net Thanks bunches. Doris At 08:14 AM 4/19/2012 -0400, you wrote: FYI, about xp and office2003 users off another list. Hi, I got a response from FS and, as I expected, the official word is they no longer support Office XP or 2003. They know the supplied scripts don't work properly any more, but they are supplied for those people who want to use them. So I'm afraid anyone else out there having to use older versions of Office is out of luck with the later versions of JAWS. Perhaps FS could be persuaded to release the source code of the unsupported scripts to the user community, so that those who want to could fix them. David Lant For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the jaws scripts for xp and office2003
I am mainly concerned with winword. the later versions of jaws work wiht MS Word by directly accessing the Winword api. This does not work correctly anymore for readingin Winword 2k3. If I were to go back to a version of jaws that just used scripts with no api access to read Word, would this overwrite jaws's accessing the api or do later versions of jaws always access the api regardless of what scripts they come with? thanks much. Doris At 11:11 AM 4/19/2012 -0400, you wrote: They already come with the later versions of jaws. They are just not going to do any up grading to them At 09:35 AM 4/19/2012, you wrote: What scripts are these? I must have missed the original post. would you mind resending the link, or, not to clutter up the list, just send me the scripts privately to chipmu...@gmx.net Thanks bunches. Doris At 08:14 AM 4/19/2012 -0400, you wrote: FYI, about xp and office2003 users off another list. Hi, I got a response from FS and, as I expected, the official word is they no longer support Office XP or 2003. They know the supplied scripts don't work properly any more, but they are supplied for those people who want to use them. So I'm afraid anyone else out there having to use older versions of Office is out of luck with the later versions of JAWS. Perhaps FS could be persuaded to release the source code of the unsupported scripts to the user community, so that those who want to could fix them. David Lant For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the jaws scripts for personal alarm plug in
That's the beauty of these lists, Mr. Dave, that we share what we know. Take care ... Doris At 10:02 AM 4/19/2012 -0400, you wrote: I did not know that, thank you. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 7:34 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the jaws scripts for personal alarm plug in Actually, since the scripts were written for jaws 4.5.1 originally, this is the location that jaws will look in by default. You need to manually give the path to your script directory. since jaws 4.5.1 did not differentiate between personal and all user settings at the time, I personally put my personal alarm scripts in my all user settings directory and this has worked well for me for several years and several versions. hth Doris At 07:02 AM 4/19/2012 -0400, you wrote: You must make certain that the script files are correctly located in your settings\enu folder first of all. I do not believe they will work if they are not in there as JAWS looks in that location for them and is not set to search the entire computer. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of korbamukesh Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 12:15 AM To: jaws-users-list Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding the jaws scripts for personal alarm plug in Hello, Did someone on the list used PersonalAlarm plug in for jaws? If so I would like to know about the steps followed by me to add the scripts for jaws. Since I have running multiple versions of Jaws 12 and 13 on the same computer, pressed Insert+0, then closed the script manager before continuing to the steps below. After using the installer, there was a subfolder in my start menu labeled Gutterstar. It contained another subfolder labeled PersonalAlarm. In the PersonalAlarm folder, I have notice a shortcut labeled 1 PersonalAlarm.jss Clicked on the shortcut labeled 1 PersonalAlarm.jss The file got opened in the Jaws script manager. Once opened, pressed Control+S. To complete compile scripts and here I should get the message that scripts are compiled and complete. But here I ggot the following error: Script Load Error The file C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\12.0\Settings\enu\PersonalAlarm.JSB could not be opened OK Then I pressed Control+Shift+D. doing this, opened Default.jss Pressed Control+End, then pressed enter key couple of times. At the bottom of the file, typed the following line, Use PersonalAlarm.jsb then press enter. Pressed Control+S once again, then close the file. After doing these steps, I should have got the confirmation of successfully adding the scripts for personal alarm plugin but again I got the same error. so please tell me where i have made the mistake? how to rectify the same? requesting your kind cooperation. thanks, mukesh. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS And Windows 7 Registry Cleaners
Hi, For simple registry cleaning, use the Registry cleaner part of C-Cleaner. If you are looking for something more thorough that is also free, google for the free version of Abexo Registry Cleaner. The free version is fully accessible and very thorough and works with anything from win 95 up. I have no possibility to test on win 7 myself as I am still on xp but am quite sure that this will work. hth Doris At 08:42 AM 4/17/2012 +0100, you wrote: Hi friends, Has anyone found a registry cleaner that works with Microsoft Windows 7 and JAWS? Preferably a free one if there is such a thing. I have the very old Regclean but not sure if this is Microsoft Windows 7 compatible or not. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Ryan West Sent: 16 April 2012 15:02 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Packard-Bell Laptops Hello Steven sorry to hear that you have to go through the bios but once you make that change it makes life with jaws normal again. Sincerely, Ryan West -Original Message- From: Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 11:39 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Packard-Bell Laptops Thanks, it would seem that I don't have that option my laptop, possibly a driver installation modification. According to the manual, the option is in the BIOS. Thanks for your help. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of dgcnc Sent: 02 April 2012 19:31 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Packard-Bell Laptops No. No! This is easy in Windows 7. Open your menus with the Windows key and type mobility center without the quotes or enough to find it. Go through the settings and there is clearly a setting about function keys. Select the other option and it is all fixed. I cannot see the specific steps from where I am but if you need them, I'll be glad to write it out and e-mail again. Jaws will work perfect. I fought this for years till someone told me the same thing on this list and life is so much better. Greg -Original Message- From: Ryan West Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:55 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Packard-Bell Laptops Hello Steven, I had the same problem with my new hp lap top and what you have to do is have someone with sight go into the bios and change the function keys to perform the functions without depressing the F/n key. Many new laptops are now coming with media keys installed in the function keys.As far as I know JFW will not work in the BIOS so you will need sighted help. hth, Ryan West -Original Message- From: Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 11:59 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Packard-Bell Laptops Hi friends, Does anyone have a Packard-Bell laptop. For some reason, the function keys 1 through 10 don't seem to perform standard operations without holding down the FN key and I am wondering if there is a way to turn this feature off? Many thanks in anticipation for any help, Steve. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: 28 March 2012 19:07 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] English Dictionaries with jaws have you looked at the free www.dictionary.com - that works well, and cites good sources. CNIB members can have access to the oxford English Dictionary on-line. - Original Message - From: Muhammad Babar Shahzad babarant...@yahoo.ca To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 2:32 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] English Dictionaries with jaws Dear all Greetings, Please let me know about any professional dictionaries that can work well with jaws I know about wordweb but would like to try some others. Warm Regards, Muhammad Babar Shahzad The compassion we impart to those who can give us nothing is the true measure of who we are. - Rick Tringale Cell: +92-300--5631220 Skype: muhammadbabar Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/engrbabarshahzad#!/profile.php?id=11979960173 - For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ This message may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient please inform the sender that you have received the message in error before deleting it. Please do not disclose, copy or distribute information in this e-mail or take any action in reliance on its contents: to
Re: [JAWS-Users] Seperating JAWS from music output
Either a hardware synthesizer, something like a DECTalk, Doubletalk, etc. or a second dedicated soundcard. With the hardware synth, a used one with a serial to usb adapter will do nicely usually and with a soundcard, any cheap cardfor US$20 or less will do for speech output. hth Doris At 07:50 AM 4/10/2012 +0100, you wrote: I am a Wedding DJ and compare and at the moment I use conventional Pioneer DJ twin CD players and also a specialist Denon DJ HDC2500 hard drive controller. The Hard Drive Controller is just about manageable as I know most of my music and in many cases I just have to type a particular search string and I know it will find the track I need, I can then quickly check that I am on the right track by using headphones. Problem is I don't always know if I have the track and also if I do have it it could be a fair way down a specific folder.[you can only search the first path and then its manual using a viewing window] i.e. Walk of Life would be a fair way down the Dire Straits folder. I am able to search for the Dire Straits folder but then there is no facility to do a search string within that folder. This means that sometimes I have to rely on someone being there to tell me what is displayed in the viewing window. I want to try using a laptop to replay some tracks, at the moment I'm not that bothered about using any specialist mixing software although I understand that OTTS DJ is compatible with Jaws. For now I would be quite happy being able to use a standard folder such as My Music and playing directly out from there using Windows Media Player or alike. My mixer has multiple lines so I intend to keep my CD players and the HDC and just use a laptop for when I need to do a search. I need to know if it is possible to keep the JAWS output separate away from the actual music output in order that JAWS is not heard through the PA system.and if so how? I wondered about a multi channel sound card such as a Gigaport or even using the built-in sound card and also another basic sound card as well, one for the music and the other for JAWS, my other concern is could I get a high enough output from JAWS so it can be heard via headphones in a noisy environment. I haven't bought the laptop yet either so if there is a laptop out there that has the facility to do this without any additional sound cards that would be interesting too. Many thanks in advance for any help and advice Andy For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 8 Consumer Preview and JAWS 13?
Since the video intercept won't work under windows 8 if I understand things correctly, you might be better off using nvda. hth Doris At 03:51 PM 3/28/2012 -0700, you wrote: Hello all, What would happen if I were to attempt to use JAWS 13.0.718 with the Windows 8 Consumer Preview? Would JAWS simply fail to install, run, and work properly? Or, is there some functionality that an experienced JAWS user might be able to tame and work through? All the best, Grant For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Audio Device Confusion
Plese. there was no problem with the soundcards or the driver. It was total Recorder that set itself as the widnows default sound device and since it did not close properly, did not undo this change. therefore the sound devices got jumbled up. This should not have been a problem, however, as jaws was set to use my external hardware synthesizer. You may not go back long enough to remember hardware synthesizers. This is not just an external soundcard but is a hardwaredevice on its own that does not show up under windows's sound devices and under the NT track of windows, no driver is actually loaded under windows but the screenreader that is to be used with the hardware synthesizer needs to come wiht a driver for it. Jaws does have this driver; nvda does not. Since jaws was set to use the hardware synthesizer, any confusion or driver issues with windows sound devices should not have impacted jaws's starting properly using the hardware synth. Hardware synthesizers are legacy hardware devices. Other, and maybe more familiar hardware synthesizers, are the DECTAlk synths (not to be confused with Access 32 or the recent DECTAlk reader software), Doubletalk, Tripletalk, etc. hth Doris At 07:24 AM 3/17/2012 -0700, you wrote: I guess maybe either Your soundcard or Your sound driver is having problem. You can do one thing. uninstall Your sound driver and install latest sound driver. if doesn't solve Your problem then maybe there is a problem in Your soundcard. On 3/17/12, Doris and Chris chipmu...@gmx.net wrote: I ran into a jaws error here that surprised me. I had been recording an audio stream with Total Recorder when I got a blue screen with a dcm error and had to do a hard reset to restart my box. When the machine came up, the audio devices were all jumbled up. This came as no surprise as this will happen when Total Recorder crashes and does not close down properly but stays set as the default audio device. jaws did not load completely when the computer came back up and this did surprise me as I had had jaws running with my 14-year-old Keynote External Hardware synth. I would have expected possible problems had jaws been set to use software speech when I had the Blue Screen but since it was set to use my hardware synth, I had not expected any problem by the mixed up sound devices as the Keynote external does not show up among the windows audio devices at all. I could not restart jaws properly at all until I had had the audio devices sorted out using my sighted husband's sighted assistence to properly reset the windows default sound device to my pci soundcard and then fixed up the rest using nvda and rebooted the box. Why did jaws not load properly when it was set to use my hardware synth as the default profile? any help with this would be much appreciated. Thanks bunches. Doris For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ -- Broken Trust is like a melted Chocolate,No matter how u tried to freeze it,it will never return to its original Shape..! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Audio Device Confusion
There was no error report. Jaws just did not load completely. Thanks much. Doris At 07:58 PM 3/17/2012 +, you wrote: Two possible explanations occur to me. Even though JAWS may be set to load with a hardware speech synthesizer as default (No. 1 synth), JAWS seems to require as a condition for working that its Eloquence driver be able to load and work properly. That may be the reason. Also, after some hard crashes, although I have an Apollo 2 external synthesizer set as default JAWS will somehow start with eloquence or 'factory' settings. I then can reset it. It would be nice if you could get up the eror report. - Original Message - From: Doris and Chris chipmu...@gmx.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Audio Device Confusion Plese. there was no problem with the soundcards or the driver. It was total Recorder that set itself as the widnows default sound device and since it did not close properly, did not undo this change. therefore the sound devices got jumbled up. This should not have been a problem, however, as jaws was set to use my external hardware synthesizer. You may not go back long enough to remember hardware synthesizers. This is not just an external soundcard but is a hardwaredevice on its own that does not show up under windows's sound devices and under the NT track of windows, no driver is actually loaded under windows but the screenreader that is to be used with the hardware synthesizer needs to come wiht a driver for it. Jaws does have this driver; nvda does not. Since jaws was set to use the hardware synthesizer, any confusion or driver issues with windows sound devices should not have impacted jaws's starting properly using the hardware synth. Hardware synthesizers are legacy hardware devices. Other, and maybe more familiar hardware synthesizers, are the DECTAlk synths (not to be confused with Access 32 or the recent DECTAlk reader software), Doubletalk, Tripletalk, etc. hth Doris At 07:24 AM 3/17/2012 -0700, you wrote: I guess maybe either Your soundcard or Your sound driver is having problem. You can do one thing. uninstall Your sound driver and install latest sound driver. if doesn't solve Your problem then maybe there is a problem in Your soundcard. On 3/17/12, Doris and Chris chipmu...@gmx.net wrote: I ran into a jaws error here that surprised me. I had been recording an audio stream with Total Recorder when I got a blue screen with a dcm error and had to do a hard reset to restart my box. When the machine came up, the audio devices were all jumbled up. This came as no surprise as this will happen when Total Recorder crashes and does not close down properly but stays set as the default audio device. jaws did not load completely when the computer came back up and this did surprise me as I had had jaws running with my 14-year-old Keynote External Hardware synth. I would have expected possible problems had jaws been set to use software speech when I had the Blue Screen but since it was set to use my hardware synth, I had not expected any problem by the mixed up sound devices as the Keynote external does not show up among the windows audio devices at all. I could not restart jaws properly at all until I had had the audio devices sorted out using my sighted husband's sighted assistence to properly reset the windows default sound device to my pci soundcard and then fixed up the rest using nvda and rebooted the box. Why did jaws not load properly when it was set to use my hardware synth as the default profile? any help with this would be much appreciated. Thanks bunches. Doris For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ -- Broken Trust is like a melted Chocolate,No matter how u tried to freeze it,it will never return to its original Shape..! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] David Ferrin web page link
I would not go quite as far. *smile* However, Mr. Tekkie Dave's website is on the very top of my computer and certainly jaws resource lists and one I do direct people to for both a neatly organized archive of accessible programs as well as information on jaws itself. I have had the pleasure of also interacting with and observing Mr. Dave on a voice chat site that we both frequent. Mr. Dave is on the Tech Team on that site and I have always been impressed with the care and commitment he puts into helping people and also in keeping up with them and making sure that the help he gave them really solved their problem. I do not always do things the same way Mr. Dave does but I am very very confident in him and his abilities and even more so in the way he deals with people. this is both in real time on the chat site as well as on this list or the time and commitment he puts in maintaining the resource site. Thank you bunches, for all you do for us and the blind community at large, Mr. Dave! Doris At 11:54 AM 3/8/2012 -0600, you wrote: you bet, it's my other bible.. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] David Ferrin web page link If I ever had a reason to give up and go off to play electronic golf this might just be it. Thank you Trish for reminding people to read the footer message. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. - Original Message - From: Trish pzoell...@tx.rr.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] David Ferrin web page link check the bottom of the email - Original Message - From: Patrick xplore...@q.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 6:14 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] David Ferrin web page link Hi, If someone can send me the link to David Ferrin's web page, I would appreciate it. Thank you. Patrick In a touch I find a world with you I never knew. There are so many things I find i never found before. In my heart I gaze into your eyes and it touches me in ways I now come to realize. -An Fear as Kilshanny She Brings me Good Things. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6948 (20120307) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JART to create and save documents in MS Word format
Have you had a look at Jarte actually? Jarte can handle embedded images as well as tables, footnotes and such. It may not have all the power and features of Microsoft Word but probably can handle many if not most of the features the average word processor user needs and maybe even more. hth Doris At 02:21 AM 3/6/2012 -0500, you wrote: It will provide a way to share and be somewhat free from Word. Keep in mind that Jart probably handles a small subset of the features and media types / content supported by word. My quick guess at such features would be footnotes, endnotes, multiple columns, pictures, and embedded spreadsheets, and possibly tables. As long as you do not need to have access to these features , they probably will not be modified as you modify the surrounding text. Obviously, you will not be able to add such content. *Don Marang* Vinux Package Development Coordinator - vinuxproject.org http://www.vinuxproject.org/ On 3/5/2012 5:10 PM, Dujari, Prateek wrote: Hello. I am playing with JART and to my surprise I find that I can open, edit and view any MS word 2010, 2007 or 2003 document in it. Further I find I can save any of these MS Word files opened in JART after editing them in the Word 2003 .doc format. this seems incredible. Is this really true and does this give us freedom from MS Word and more importantly be able to share .doc files with others who have Office loaded on their computers while I don't? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] email programs for win7?
Don't forget good old classic Eudora 7.1.0 9 from www.eudora.com (stay away from Eudora-OS, which is Thunderbird on steroids). Several friends of mine are using Eudora 7.1.09 on win 7 and it works well even under 64bit. hth Doris At 08:04 PM 3/3/2012 -0800, you wrote: yes friend thunderbird is the only email cliant Which works well with jaws. On 3/3/12, Steve k...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Besides Office's Outlook and Windows LiveMail, I think the only other option is Thunderbird. - Original Message - From: Adam Morris li...@damorris.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 10:37 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] email programs for win7? Hi all, wondering what programs people are using with jaws apart from office for email on win7 and windows live mail? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ -- Broken Trust is like a melted Chocolate,No matter how u tried to freeze it,it will never return to its original Shape..! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] ADD Shield?
Adshield is indeed still available from jfwlite and can be used. since I switched to firefox for my default browser, i have not used Adshield with Ie in a while. However, when i last installed and used it, it did still help reduce popups as it always had. Adshield can be used parallel to ie's popup blocker. I am wondering, though, if your sister might not be better off trying out nvda for a screenreader parallel to her jaws 7. And remember that if she has jaws 7.0, she can download and install the update to jaws 7.1 from fs's website for free. I would very muchrecommend doing at least that and I am also recommending trying out nvda. nvda has really been coming off age of late and the beta of the upcoming nvda 2012.1 release has more capability and functionality than nvda ever did. the learning curve for nvda should be manageable for a jaws user as many of the keystrokes are similar. I am not necessarily suggesting your sister should abandon jaws altogether but with such an old jaws version, I think it would be good if she could run nvda alongside it. It would allow her, for example, to use Firefox as a browser and also, if she wanted to, upgrade to ie 8 as nvda works well and reliable with both browsers. since it lacks a video intercept, nvda is fully portable on the one hand but also does not work with some programs that jaws does work with. Also nvda's mouse emulation is not as good as that of jaws's for the same reason. nvda does have ways to get around the screen that jaws does not but its object navigation concept takes some getting used to and I am still not very competent at it even though I am generally quite computer savvy. For many computer users, though, who do their regular bit of chatting, surfing, email, playing music and a great many more things on the computer, nvda is quite sufficient. I just think if your sister learned to use it next to her version of jaws, she could only gain and be moreflexible. nvda can be gotten from www.nvda-project.org and is completely free though they always appreciate donations. hth Doris At 10:22 AM 2/25/2012 -0600, you wrote: shshshs let's not tell my sister ok? - Original Message - From: Bharat bharat...@yahoo.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ADD Shield? adshield is still available from jfwlite.com however, I don't really think, it would be of much of a use because this software, seems to have been abandoned. -- From: Trish pzoell...@tx.rr.com Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 6:27 PM To: users jaws list JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] ADD Shield? This might be a long shot asking if this is still available, but my sister is still running XP with IE/7 and I think she's only using Jaws 7. So, she calls me last night, and is frustrated with the pop-ups, I got her to turn off the pop-up blocker and she was wanting that program she had before her computer crashed this, ADD Shield. I told her I don't think it's available any longer, but just thought I would ask here. I remember it was once on the old Jaws lite site, is that still around? I told her she better get inside window's update and hide that IE update thingy, or one of these times it's gonna install without her knowing, and I guess Jaws 7 wouldn't work for IE 8. This would be a big and I mean big tragedy if she couldn't use her beloved Google,lol Appreciate any light shed on this subject.. Thanks, Trish For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] CCleaner Slim Version
try the downloads section at www.whitestick.co.uk hth Doris At 11:25 AM 2/25/2012 -0800, you wrote: Hi All, Does anyone have the link for downloading the latest Slim Build / Version of C Cleaner? This is the Build / Version that doesn't have any ToolBars for Google Chrome snuck into it. All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much, take care. Mike For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] need accessible irc client
I hear Mozilla's Chatzilla works well or Miranda should also work. Both of these are for chatting primarily and I do not know how they would do if your priority is downloading files or playing songs over irc. I personally use an older version of mIRC with jaws scripts for it. nOt sure if the scripts still work with the latest and greatest. hth Doris At 11:06 AM 2/1/2012 -0800, you wrote: Hello, I am running jaws 13 on windows7 64-bit, and I need a good accessible irc client for some work I am doing. Any tips would be greatly appreciated. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] MAKING JAWS WORK BETTER WITH IE9
Does Meta Products Download Express still work with IE9? I am on xp still and thus no ie9 joys or troubles but was just wondering as Meta Download Express would give an alternative and more conventional download dialogue window. Meta DE is free and works well with jaws. Doris At 03:35 PM 2/1/2012 -0500, you wrote: Hi Elf, John Justice here. I am very interested in anything that can help me get the best out of IE9, using Jaws. I haven't had nearly the trouble some people seem to have but if you have developed files or instructions that would make things even better, I'd be grateful for that information. Thanks in advance for your assistance. JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE WITH GUIDE DOGS JAKE AND ZACHARY PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of inthane Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 12:59 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws with IE 9. which I have files that will stop that if you want them! contact me off list if you do and please! make the subject line pertinent, I deal with about 100 Emails a day and don't have time to guess if I should read something or not, if I have to guess it gets flushed! elf . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises own the might and majesty of an alacorn www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com - Original Message - From: leonard morris lmorris1...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws with IE 9. I have not upgraded either. However, according to an article I read it is suppose to have better security features. Also, according to this email newsletter Microsoft forces xp users to upgrade to IE 8 starting this year when you have windows automatic upgrade enabled. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jim rawls Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 6:46 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws with IE 9. Hi All, I am running jaws 13 on my windows home premium 64 bit machine. I just installed IE 9 on my computer, and really I don't see the advantage of it. Frankly, I like the way downloads worked better in IE 8. So, what is the big deal about IE 9? What am I missing? Jim For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Accessing Add-on Bar in Firefox 10.0
While still using firefox 3.6 as my default browser, I am currently trying out the portable version of firefox 10.0 as I am attempting to learn how to work with a Firefox Add-on that requires access thru the Firefox add-on bar, an equivalent to which I have not found in Firefox 3.6. the hotkey to access the add-on bar in FF10 supposedly is ctrl+/ (control+forward-slash) but this did not produce any result regardless of whether or not I entered the PassKey command in jaws. am I missing something? Does jaws have its own set of commands to access toolbars in firefox? The classic f8 command to access the toolbar did not produce any result I could detect. Thanks much. Doris For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Scan to text?
I have not used Textcloner personally but from what I have read about it, it is just an accessible ocr package that is not self-voicing like the $$$ packages but allows you to use your screenreader for speech. Check the file menu if it has an Open entry or just try a ctrl+o I am pretty sure it will allow you to open some image formats at least and then run ocr on them. When an ocr program works with the scanner, the scanner takes a picture of the print material you put on it and then saves the picture as an image file that your text recognition program - Text Cloner in your case - works its magic on, i.e. performs the optical character recognition. When you feed it an image file, you just eliminate the step of the scanner's taking the picture and sending the saved image to Text Cloner. I hope you can get it to work. Whatw format is your image file in? Take care and good luck reading your letter! Doris At 09:47 PM 1/25/2012 -0500, you wrote: I have Text Cloner, Could I somehow use it to read an e mail that is an image? I wouldn't know how to get Text cloner to view the image since it works from the printer/scanner. Rich - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi d...@andrew.cmu.edu To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Scan to text? They can scan the document and send the image file to you. If you have an older version of Microsoft Office you can do the OCR from within Word. If you have a newer version of Microsoft Office you can use Microsoft OneNote to do the OCR. If you have neither, but have JAWS 13, you can try the Convenient OCR package for JAWS. If you have none of the above, you can try submitting the image to one of the free on-line OCR engines. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Scan to text?
Just as we blind folks do: by using a scanner and ocr software and then either paste the text into an email or sending you the accessible document as attachment. Most scanners come with some kind of ocr tthat is not necessarily accessible but would get the job done for a sighted person. Office 2k3 and earlier came with Document Imaging', which was actually a fairly decent and accessible ocr solution hth Doris At 09:10 PM 1/24/2012 -0500, you wrote: How can a sighted person scan a text document, on their pc, and send it to me via e mail so that JAWS can read iton my pc? Thanks so much. Rich For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] in the market for a new laptop
There are indeed different versions of jaws for 32bit and 64bit windows but the price is the same. Different prices make a difference not with 32bit or 64bit but with which version of the operating system is being used, i.e. whehter jaws standard (for home) or professional systems is required. These exist in both 32bit and 64bit flavors. I am still on xp myself but I think I heard that the highest version of win 7 that will work wiht the standard license of jaws is Home premium. this is to be taken into account when buying the computer with an operating system preinstalled. For most users, the Home Premium version of windows should be all they ever need. As for a hardware suggestion for a laptop, Chris and I both bought Asus laptops that were affordable and which are very rugged and come with a full-sized keyboard including numpad. We bought ours without operating system and are running xp on them each but they came with 2 gigs of RAM (expandable to 4 gigs) and are capable of running win 7 in both 32bit or 64bit. hth Doris At 02:25 PM 1/14/2012 +, you wrote: Hi Kathy. I certainly would not go with 64bit. The amount of complaints we've had about it! a friend of mine runs a PC repair business and people find it a lot more convenient to downgrade to 32bit. the reality is that if your pc only has 4GB or less of memory, 32bit windows is fine. if it has 4GB or more, then they recommend 64bit but in reality 32bit can work on windows with up to 16GB of ram using PAE or physical address extention technology. this probably isn't the place to discuss 32bit verses 64bit, but i've a feeling that you're paying extra for jaws 64bit, i haven't checked out the latest prices but i do know that there are separate versions of jaws for 32bit systems and 64bit systems. I hope that helps, feel free to write me off list if you need more clarification at: mobeeniq...@gmail.com Mo. On 14/01/2012 14:12, Kathy Pingstock wrote: Good morning, I am using the latest Jjaws. Different are telling me to go with the 64 bit laptops, that 32 are fading out. Will the standard jaws work with the 64 bit laptops. What is the difference between 32 or 64 bit units. Kathy For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS gets confused
I have no way of verifying this but check in yourinstallation folder of windows LIve Mail 2011 for the name of the program executable. Is it msimn.exe this has been the name of the Microsoft Email client from since before outlookk Express which was introduced origianly with Internet Explorer 4.0, hwhich came as part of windows 95 OSR2 or was available as an upgrade to I.e. 3.0. the above name of the program executable originally was short for Microsoft Internet Mail and News but was kept the same for Outlook Express over several versions and, I am guessing, may still be the name for the current Microsoft Mail client. This would explain your jaws's getting confused as jaws looks at the name of the program executable that currently has focus and loads settings/scripts accordinglyly. the script files that are loaded then internatally have a way of determining which version of a program, i.e. Microsoft Word 2003 or 2010, is being used. This allows jaws to know the differences and interact with the program as needed by the different versions. If the name of the program program executable is the same as with Microsoft Internet Mail and News and outlook Express, and, my guess is, also with windows mail and windows LIve Mail, this to jaws is the same program but with a different version number. So if jaws announced outlook Express rather than Windows LIve Mail it got confused on the version of the program you are using. Do a jawskey+escape to refresh the settings being loaded and you should be good to go. Now this is hoping I have not produced a lot of baloney and that my guess is right and makes sense even though I am still in the prediluvian and we actually still possess a working machine running win 95 A ... g hth Doris At 08:24 AM 1/12/2012 -0500, you wrote: Several times a week when I open Windows Live Mail 2011, JAWS 13 will say Outlook Express rather than Windows Live Mail. Why does this happen?: Joni For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] setting up Dectalk Access 32 in Windows 7
wow. This justifies furhter investigation. Thanks much. i love the knowledge and expertise combined in these lists. Of course, FS's dectalk access 32 is no longer being sold is it? Thanks much. Doris At 07:17 AM 1/12/2012 -0500, you wrote: Hi The Dectalk Access 32 from Freedom Scientific still works fine today with JAWS 13 under Windows XP. It was the non-Freedom Scientific version, that I think came from GW Micro that stopped working in JAWS 11. There is an article in the JAWS support knowledge base about JAWS freezing under Windows Vista when Dectalk Access 32 is used. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 03:24 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] setting up Dectalk Access 32 in Windows 7 As far as I know, DECTAlk Access not working with jaws is not a vista and win 7 problem but the driver for it broken in jaws 11 and higher. If I remember correctly, access 32 no longer worked after jaws 11 beta 1 or 2. and, yes, FS no longer support Access 32. somebody on here mentioned a sapi 5 version of DECTAlk that she was using but which was not an official release. Once this is released, it should be an option or you can, of course, invest $$$ for a DECTAlk usb. hth Doris At 02:36 PM 1/11/2012 -0500, you wrote: Hi As far as I know, Dectalk Access 32 does not work in Windows Vista or Windows 7. You could contact Freedom Scientific support to see if they have any suggestions. But I think they are going to tell you that that product is not supported any more. But if you do find a way to make it work, please let me know. I miss Dectalk Access 32. Mike O'Brien -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Blackwell, Clifford Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 01:26 To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com' Subject: [JAWS-Users] setting up Dectalk Access 32 in Windows 7 Hello list, I've just been set up with a Windows 7 64 bit computer at work. I'm using Jaws 13 and I'd like to get it working with my old Dectalk Acess 32 that is authorized for Jaws. So far, I've had no luck. Any suggestions of how/what I need to do to make this work? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] setting up Dectalk Access 32 in Windows 7
As far as I know, DECTAlk Access not working with jaws is not a vista and win 7 problem but the driver for it broken in jaws 11 and higher. If I remember correctly, access 32 no longer worked after jaws 11 beta 1 or 2. and, yes, FS no longer support Access 32. somebody on here mentioned a sapi 5 version of DECTAlk that she was using but which was not an official release. Once this is released, it should be an option or you can, of course, invest $$$ for a DECTAlk usb. hth Doris At 02:36 PM 1/11/2012 -0500, you wrote: Hi As far as I know, Dectalk Access 32 does not work in Windows Vista or Windows 7. You could contact Freedom Scientific support to see if they have any suggestions. But I think they are going to tell you that that product is not supported any more. But if you do find a way to make it work, please let me know. I miss Dectalk Access 32. Mike O'Brien -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Blackwell, Clifford Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 01:26 To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com' Subject: [JAWS-Users] setting up Dectalk Access 32 in Windows 7 Hello list, I've just been set up with a Windows 7 64 bit computer at work. I'm using Jaws 13 and I'd like to get it working with my old Dectalk Acess 32 that is authorized for Jaws. So far, I've had no luck. Any suggestions of how/what I need to do to make this work? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] running a computer with out the screen
I think there is an adapter plug for laptops that plugs into the video out and simulates a screen so that you can use the laptop without thedisplay but this is more than a plug and simulates a monitor attached. Whehter or not a computer boots without monitor depends on the computer and the setup. Have someone sighted go into the cmos (bios) and check if the computer can be set to boot without screen attached. This is often a bios setting - but not always. hth Doris At 09:40 AM 1/10/2012 -0500, you wrote: I am getting a new computer and my old one is 9 years old what I was thinking of doing is to turn the old one into a Jukebox for music. but I have very little room and don't want to buy another screen since my screen is only 6 months old. how can I run it with out a screen I have tried this a while a go and the computer does not work correctly with out a screen hooked up could I find a old screen and cut the end off the plug that goes into the computer and just plug that in. will that full the computer that there is a screen attached? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Revisited - Re: running a computer with out the screen
you can also get a keyboard monitor switch and share the monitor and - if desired - a keyboard between both computers. hth Doris origianl message: I think there is an adapter plug for laptops that plugs into the video out and simulates a screen so that you can use the laptop without thedisplay but this is more than a plug and simulates a monitor attached. Whehter or not a computer boots without monitor depends on the computer and the setup. Have someone sighted go into the cmos (bios) and check if the computer can be set to boot without screen attached. This is often a bios setting - but not always. hth Doris At 09:40 AM 1/10/2012 -0500, you wrote: I am getting a new computer and my old one is 9 years old what I was thinking of doing is to turn the old one into a Jukebox for music. but I have very little room and don't want to buy another screen since my screen is only 6 months old. how can I run it with out a screen I have tried this a while a go and the computer does not work correctly with out a screen hooked up could I find a old screen and cut the end off the plug that goes into the computer and just plug that in. will that full the computer that there is a screen attached? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws losing focus
Try refreshing the screen with jawskey+esc hth Doris At 07:35 AM 1/6/2012 -0500, you wrote: I have jaws 13 and windows xp and when I bring up my drive selections for example c d e when I enter on the c drive the main drive jaws says lost focus and it won't read the list as it did in early jaws any suggestions. I did alt tab for it to try to gain focus but it still says lost focus. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws losing focus
You are welcome. That one is an important one to remember as some focus issues have been a part of life with jaws pretty much as long as i remember. *smile* Must be part of the shark personality. *g* Here is hoping your shark stays focused! g Cheers, Doris At 08:58 AM 1/6/2012 -0500, you wrote: thanks for that for got about that thanks again. - Original Message - From: Doris and Chris chipmu...@gmx.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws losing focus Try refreshing the screen with jawskey+esc hth Doris At 07:35 AM 1/6/2012 -0500, you wrote: I have jaws 13 and windows xp and when I bring up my drive selections for example c d e when I enter on the c drive the main drive jaws says lost focus and it won't read the list as it did in early jaws any suggestions. I did alt tab for it to try to gain focus but it still says lost focus. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] sound cards with jaws
I think it has been a long while since there were any issues with jaws and software speech causing trouble on a particular sound card. This used to be the case on some 1st generation Creative Soundblaster Live cards that caused eloquence to crackle but this was more a hardware and driver issue than a problem of jaws and eloquence itself. I had the dubious pleasure of using one of these legacy sb live cards in one of our systems recently and I was not too sad to send the card back into retirement after replacing it with another card - a US$20 pci card with a cheapie CM chip. Any onboard audio or cheapie usb sound device should be good enough to run your speech thru. hth Doris At 07:14 AM 1/3/2012 -0500, you wrote: will any sound card work with jaws? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] can not install jaws updates
Try getting the full installer from fs's website instead. hth Doris At 06:20 PM 1/1/2012 -0800, you wrote: Hello everyone, I am unable to install the jaws 13 updates on my desktop. I updated my lap top just fine, but when I go to update my desk top, it tells me that the patch can not be installed. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Skype Question.
This is related to her jaws version. It is either caused by running a jaws script version not matching the jaws version being used or by scripts not appropriate for the skype version used. With focus on the main skype window, try recompiling the scripts. (ctrl+shift+c - if things haven't changed too much)or jawskey+NumRow0 and then ctrl+s to recompile while focused on the skype window. also while focused on the skype window, do a jawskey+q to find out the script version she is running. for skype 3.8, it should be revision 653b. If she is running jaws 13, the installer for the skype scripts might not work correctly from what i heard some people say. Get the zip archive of the appropriate scripts and install and recompile them manually. hth Doris At 02:19 PM 12/25/2011 -0600, you wrote: Hello, I have a friend who uses skype 3.8. She says that when she arrow down through her contacts list, she is receiving the following message: And unknown call to function. What does that means? And how do you get rid of it? Thanks for any help. Regards, Thomas. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] new way to access Skype
Yes, very much so. you can have text chat output to your screenrader or sapi or can just review it in the message history with the arrow keys or the last 10 chat lines with the reading keys for this. Since msaa support was added for text chat in skype 3.5, the text chat was actually quite doable with original skype also. hth Doris At 09:10 AM 12/21/2011 +, you wrote: This looks absolutely brilliant, does anyone know if you are able to use the text chat side of things which is where I always found things tricky before. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Alan Robbins Sent: 21 December 2011 00:25 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new way to access Skype Here you go The GWSkype app can be downloaded at http://www.gwmicro.com/apps/gwskype. You can download the GWSkype live webinar and product demonstration at www.gwmicro.com/podcast. Al -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Patti Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 2:35 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new way to access skype So where do you get this, and the key commands? Patti I have it too. Just haven't gotten to installing it yet. They also had a webinar about it which you can download. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 11:16 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new way to access skype I have it although not tried it as of yet. What are folks finding as to it's usability? David Ferrin http://www.jaws-users.com -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 8:52 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] new way to access skype Hey everyone, i learned of a new program called gw Skype from gw micro the makers of window-eyes. It works with jaws 13 as well as older versions of jaws. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ This message may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient please inform the sender that you have received the message in error before deleting it. Please do not disclose, copy or distribute information in this e-mail or take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Thank you for your co-operation. NHSmail is the secure email and directory service available for all NHS staff in England and Scotland NHSmail is approved for exchanging patient data and other sensitive information with NHSmail and GSi recipients NHSmail provides an email address for your career in the NHS and can be accessed anywhere For more information and to find out how you can switch, visit www.connectingforhealth.nhs.uk/nhsmail For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Sapi DECTalk? - Was: Re: DecTalk USB not working in Vista
Where can the below-mentioned sapi DECTalk be gotten from? Thanks much. Doris At 12:05 AM 12/15/2011 -0500, you wrote: yeah try to use eloquence as default and just change it to DECtalk usb after starting jaws. less issues that way. works great that way. On Dec 14, 2011, at 6:29 PM, Arianna wrote: I had a very weird experience with the DecTalk USB as the default profile. All of a sudden, out of the blue, the voice came from my speakers as high pitched and as fast as possible. No matter what I tried, I could not get the DecTalk to function, so I uninstalled JAWS 11 totally and then reinstalled it. I had DecTalk working beautifully and guess what? The voice did the same thing, coming through my speakers as rapidly and as high pitched as possible. Now I have removed the DecTalk and am using SAPI DecTalk, so I'll see how things go from here. I like the external synthesizer because I do not like JAWS coming from the same speakers music or movies come from. Has anyone experienced anything like this? If so, were you able to get DecTalk USB to function without this nonsense happening? Arianna - Original Message - From: Brandon Misch bmisch2...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] DecTalk USB not working in Vista it does. i don't have pro but if it works in home, it should work in pro. On Dec 14, 2011, at 9:01 AM, Jerry Hogan wrote: Does Jaws13 and window7 Pro also work with Desk talk USB? -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 5:49 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] DecTalk USB not working in Vista glad it's working for you. better than trying to get access 32 to work wich so far won't work not even on xp unless you have it from them and not a third party. On Dec 13, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Arianna wrote: thank you, Brandon. I finally got it working. Arianna - Original Message - From: Brandon Misch bmisch2...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] DecTalk USB not working in Vista did you install the driver that came with your ductal usb? it's on a cd or can be downloaded from www.axsol.com hope this helps. am running 7 here but it's the same for vista. On Dec 13, 2011, at 7:51 AM, Arianna wrote: I can't seem to get my DecTalk USB to work on my Lenovo with vista laptop. If I remember correctly, wasn't there something one has to put into the .ini file to make this happen? Please, someone, give me some help here. Arianna For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Sapi DECTalk? - Was: Re: DecTalk USB not working in Vista
Dear MIss Ariana, I am sure more than I are intested in a sapi version of DECTAlk. I know that a Miss Margret on here especially would love it as she has mentioned her frustration of DECTalk Access32 not working with anything higher than jaws 10. IN fact, this is of interst beyond this jaws list as a sapi version of DECTAlk would work not only with jaws but anything that supported sapi. I know nvda users would love to have another light-weight but better sounding synth to use with nvda. I had heard about a sapi version being worked on but not of it having been released. so why not just post the homepage of the program or is it being sold by GW Micro as DECTalk Access used to be? Also the price tag would be intersting to know. Anyway, I think we all would benefit from the information and not just me. Maybe this shiny new DECTalk was released just in time for Christmas? Thanks for any Information! Eagerly and curiously awaiting your reply! Doris At 09:23 AM 12/15/2011 -0500, you wrote: Doris, send me your email address and I'll send DecTalk SAPI as an attachment My email address is: acale...@frontiernet.net Arianna - Original Message - From: Doris and Chris chipmu...@gmx.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 12:42 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Sapi DECTalk? - Was: Re: DecTalk USB not working in Vista Where can the below-mentioned sapi DECTalk be gotten from? Thanks much. Doris At 12:05 AM 12/15/2011 -0500, you wrote: yeah try to use eloquence as default and just change it to DECtalk usb after starting jaws. less issues that way. works great that way. On Dec 14, 2011, at 6:29 PM, Arianna wrote: I had a very weird experience with the DecTalk USB as the default profile. All of a sudden, out of the blue, the voice came from my speakers as high pitched and as fast as possible. No matter what I tried, I could not get the DecTalk to function, so I uninstalled JAWS 11 totally and then reinstalled it. I had DecTalk working beautifully and guess what? The voice did the same thing, coming through my speakers as rapidly and as high pitched as possible. Now I have removed the DecTalk and am using SAPI DecTalk, so I'll see how things go from here. I like the external synthesizer because I do not like JAWS coming from the same speakers music or movies come from. Has anyone experienced anything like this? If so, were you able to get DecTalk USB to function without this nonsense happening? Arianna - Original Message - From: Brandon Misch bmisch2...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] DecTalk USB not working in Vista it does. i don't have pro but if it works in home, it should work in pro. On Dec 14, 2011, at 9:01 AM, Jerry Hogan wrote: Does Jaws13 and window7 Pro also work with Desk talk USB? -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 5:49 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] DecTalk USB not working in Vista glad it's working for you. better than trying to get access 32 to work wich so far won't work not even on xp unless you have it from them and not a third party. On Dec 13, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Arianna wrote: thank you, Brandon. I finally got it working. Arianna - Original Message - From: Brandon Misch bmisch2...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] DecTalk USB not working in Vista did you install the driver that came with your ductal usb? it's on a cd or can be downloaded from www.axsol.com hope this helps. am running 7 here but it's the same for vista. On Dec 13, 2011, at 7:51 AM, Arianna wrote: I can't seem to get my DecTalk USB to work on my Lenovo with vista laptop. If I remember correctly, wasn't there something one has to put into the .ini file to make this happen? Please, someone, give me some help here. Arianna For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers
Re: [JAWS-Users] Sapi DECTalk? - Was: Re: DecTalk USB not working in Vista
HI? DECTalk was or is commercial software and someone has to have the copyright on the sapi dectalk unless it is a homecooked program, in which case this should not be on list. List Daddy Dave might spank us both. *grin* If I remember correctly, one version of DECTAlk is actulaly supposed to be open source but I did not look into this. I will contact you off list where we can continue this intersting conversation and research project and if we find an official source or homepage, we can still share with the group. Sorry everyone for my curiosity getting the better of me and asking about sapi dectalk. Since it was a question of it working with jaws, I hope it was not too off topic. If this is something that is not an official product or not just yet, Ms. Arianna and I will take this off list. Thanks bunches Doris is there no official homepage for the program? First, I have to send the program as an attachment and the email lists do not allow attachments. This is why I said I'd send it to you directly if I have your email address. There is no charge for this and I don't think it's brand new. I don't even remember where I got it; I think it was from one of the lists. so, send me your email address and I'll get it off to you. You can then send it to anyone you wish to. Arianna - Original Message - From: Doris and Chris chipmu...@gmx.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Sapi DECTalk? - Was: Re: DecTalk USB not working in Vista Dear MIss Ariana, I am sure more than I are intested in a sapi version of DECTAlk. I know that a Miss Margret on here especially would love it as she has mentioned her frustration of DECTalk Access32 not working with anything higher than jaws 10. IN fact, this is of interst beyond this jaws list as a sapi version of DECTAlk would work not only with jaws but anything that supported sapi. I know nvda users would love to have another light-weight but better sounding synth to use with nvda. I had heard about a sapi version being worked on but not of it having been released. so why not just post the homepage of the program or is it being sold by GW Micro as DECTalk Access used to be? Also the price tag would be intersting to know. Anyway, I think we all would benefit from the information and not just me. Maybe this shiny new DECTalk was released just in time for Christmas? Thanks for any Information! Eagerly and curiously awaiting your reply! Doris At 09:23 AM 12/15/2011 -0500, you wrote: Doris, send me your email address and I'll send DecTalk SAPI as an attachment My email address is: acale...@frontiernet.net Arianna - Original Message - From: Doris and Chris chipmu...@gmx.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 12:42 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Sapi DECTalk? - Was: Re: DecTalk USB not working in Vista Where can the below-mentioned sapi DECTalk be gotten from? Thanks much. Doris At 12:05 AM 12/15/2011 -0500, you wrote: yeah try to use eloquence as default and just change it to DECtalk usb after starting jaws. less issues that way. works great that way. On Dec 14, 2011, at 6:29 PM, Arianna wrote: I had a very weird experience with the DecTalk USB as the default profile. All of a sudden, out of the blue, the voice came from my speakers as high pitched and as fast as possible. No matter what I tried, I could not get the DecTalk to function, so I uninstalled JAWS 11 totally and then reinstalled it. I had DecTalk working beautifully and guess what? The voice did the same thing, coming through my speakers as rapidly and as high pitched as possible. Now I have removed the DecTalk and am using SAPI DecTalk, so I'll see how things go from here. I like the external synthesizer because I do not like JAWS coming from the same speakers music or movies come from. Has anyone experienced anything like this? If so, were you able to get DecTalk USB to function without this nonsense happening? Arianna - Original Message - From: Brandon Misch bmisch2...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] DecTalk USB not working in Vista it does. i don't have pro but if it works in home, it should work in pro. On Dec 14, 2011, at 9:01 AM, Jerry Hogan wrote: Does Jaws13 and window7 Pro also work with Desk talk USB? -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 5:49 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] DecTalk USB not working in Vista glad it's working for you. better than trying to get access 32 to work wich so far won't work not even on xp unless you have it from them and not a third party. On Dec 13, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Arianna wrote
Re: [JAWS-Users] Sapi DECTalk? - Was: Re: DecTalk USB not working in Vista
Dear MIss Arianna, I never thought you meant any harm. I was just intersted in the resource and hoped there was an official public version of a sapi dectalk, commercial, freeware, oropen source, that could be enjoyed and used by everyone. If you could verify the source, maybe this could be something mr. Tekkie Dave could indeed host on his website. thanks much. Doris At 04:14 PM 12/15/2011 -0500, you wrote: Well, doris and all, I do not know where I got this nor do I know it's origin and I would never do anything that David would not approve of on this list. If I did, I'm sorry. It was done in error. Arianna - Original Message - From: Doris and Chris chipmu...@gmx.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Sapi DECTalk? - Was: Re: DecTalk USB not working in Vista HI? DECTalk was or is commercial software and someone has to have the copyright on the sapi dectalk unless it is a homecooked program, in which case this should not be on list. List Daddy Dave might spank us both. *grin* If I remember correctly, one version of DECTAlk is actulaly supposed to be open source but I did not look into this. I will contact you off list where we can continue this intersting conversation and research project and if we find an official source or homepage, we can still share with the group. Sorry everyone for my curiosity getting the better of me and asking about sapi dectalk. Since it was a question of it working with jaws, I hope it was not too off topic. If this is something that is not an official product or not just yet, Ms. Arianna and I will take this off list. Thanks bunches Doris is there no official homepage for the program? First, I have to send the program as an attachment and the email lists do not allow attachments. This is why I said I'd send it to you directly if I have your email address. There is no charge for this and I don't think it's brand new. I don't even remember where I got it; I think it was from one of the lists. so, send me your email address and I'll get it off to you. You can then send it to anyone you wish to. Arianna - Original Message - From: Doris and Chris chipmu...@gmx.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Sapi DECTalk? - Was: Re: DecTalk USB not working in Vista Dear MIss Ariana, I am sure more than I are intested in a sapi version of DECTAlk. I know that a Miss Margret on here especially would love it as she has mentioned her frustration of DECTalk Access32 not working with anything higher than jaws 10. IN fact, this is of interst beyond this jaws list as a sapi version of DECTAlk would work not only with jaws but anything that supported sapi. I know nvda users would love to have another light-weight but better sounding synth to use with nvda. I had heard about a sapi version being worked on but not of it having been released. so why not just post the homepage of the program or is it being sold by GW Micro as DECTalk Access used to be? Also the price tag would be intersting to know. Anyway, I think we all would benefit from the information and not just me. Maybe this shiny new DECTalk was released just in time for Christmas? Thanks for any Information! Eagerly and curiously awaiting your reply! Doris At 09:23 AM 12/15/2011 -0500, you wrote: Doris, send me your email address and I'll send DecTalk SAPI as an attachment My email address is: acale...@frontiernet.net Arianna - Original Message - From: Doris and Chris chipmu...@gmx.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 12:42 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Sapi DECTalk? - Was: Re: DecTalk USB not working in Vista Where can the below-mentioned sapi DECTalk be gotten from? Thanks much. Doris At 12:05 AM 12/15/2011 -0500, you wrote: yeah try to use eloquence as default and just change it to DECtalk usb after starting jaws. less issues that way. works great that way. On Dec 14, 2011, at 6:29 PM, Arianna wrote: I had a very weird experience with the DecTalk USB as the default profile. All of a sudden, out of the blue, the voice came from my speakers as high pitched and as fast as possible. No matter what I tried, I could not get the DecTalk to function, so I uninstalled JAWS 11 totally and then reinstalled it. I had DecTalk working beautifully and guess what? The voice did the same thing, coming through my speakers as rapidly and as high pitched as possible. Now I have removed the DecTalk and am using SAPI DecTalk, so I'll see how things go from here. I like the external synthesizer because I do not like JAWS coming from the same speakers music or movies come from. Has anyone experienced anything like this? If so, were you able to get DecTalk USB to function without this nonsense happening? Arianna - Original Message
Re: [JAWS-Users] DecTalk USB not working in Vista
Dear Mr. Jerry, I do not know if that particular configuration does work but jaws for several years and versions has come with a driver for the dectalk usb. hth Doris At 08:01 AM 12/14/2011 -0600, you wrote: Does Jaws13 and window7 Pro also work with Desk talk USB? -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 5:49 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] DecTalk USB not working in Vista glad it's working for you. better than trying to get access 32 to work wich so far won't work not even on xp unless you have it from them and not a third party. On Dec 13, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Arianna wrote: thank you, Brandon. I finally got it working. Arianna - Original Message - From: Brandon Misch bmisch2...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] DecTalk USB not working in Vista did you install the driver that came with your ductal usb? it's on a cd or can be downloaded from www.axsol.com hope this helps. am running 7 here but it's the same for vista. On Dec 13, 2011, at 7:51 AM, Arianna wrote: I can't seem to get my DecTalk USB to work on my Lenovo with vista laptop. If I remember correctly, wasn't there something one has to put into the .ini file to make this happen? Please, someone, give me some help here. Arianna For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 13 and latest skype
Dear Miss Kathy, The tutorial for skype 4.x at http://marrie.org/skype_tutorials_draft/ may be somewhat useful. However, skype is now at version 5.7 for the latest beta and, while the really major change in its interface was from version 3.8 to 4.0, skype is underconstant development and has been and is changing from version to version. Hosting a skype conference was much easier under skype 3.x IMO. I am personally still running skype 3.8 on my xp box. you also may want to try skypetalking from http://code.google.com/p/skypetalking/downloads/list this is a 3rd-party plugin or add-on for skype that has been developed specifically to increase accessibility to skype for the blind. since it was originally developed for users of nvda, it duplicates some of the functionality of the jaws scripts for skype. However, it has come a long way since its original inception and has functions and keystrokes different from the skype scripts. Among other things, it offers an alternative user interface to skype itself and does have some keystrokes especialy for handling conference calls. I personally find skypetalking somewhat verbose, especially when used in combination with jaws and the scripts for skype and therefore rarely use it. When both the skype scripts for jaws and skypetalking are configured to compliment each other and to avoid duplication of announcements, the combination can be quiteuseful. One thing to remember about skypetalking is that it is an plugin for skype that uses the skype api to get the information it reads and handle its many function. This is the way the scripts for window eyes read and work with skype. Skypetalking, like any applet or plugin that accesses the skype api, needs to be authorized for use with skype. You will need to do this the first time you launch skypetalking. depending on the version of skype you are using, you either get a dialog box from skype asking permission for skypetalking to be used with skype or you need to allow it directly in the advanced section of skype's options. There is, unfortunately, no extensive tutorial for skypetalking. LIke with any new program you are learning, explore the help dokumentation and its many options. I especially recommend looking at the keyboard section that is found in skypetalking's system tray options. Here is a list of all of skypetalking's keyboard hotkeys and their purpose and you can also change hotkeys here if needed. hth Doris At 11:59 AM 12/6/2011 -0500, you wrote: Is there editorials for using jaws with skype. I want to learn skype to be able to host, I have no idea how to set skype up and use skype out . any suggestions would be great. Kathy For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] A video intercept problem and sluggishness with thunderbird
Having no experience with 64bit systems, these suggestions will be general. 1. Turn off automatically start jaws in the basic options. 2.use nvda at the logon screen if you need speech at this point. This will also speak the task manager etc. 3. Manually put a shortcut to jaws into your startup folder so that jaws is started as an application rather than a service. No idea on how to fix the underlying video intercept problem as you seem to have gone thru all the suggested motions for this already. Finally, if the problem only started with the november update, uninstall jaws including all shared components and try reinstalling the previous build of jaws 13. hth Doris At 09:05 AM 12/7/2011 +0200, you wrote: Hello listers, On my hp Win 7 32bit ultimate machine, the latest November hotfix of Jaws for Windows is very slow to respond on thunderbird when the virtual cursor is active, it gets much faster when Ä° off the V Cursor. More severely, Under the automatic start preferences of Basics, Ä° do not see the start up options for Win 7. When Ä° tick the check box of start automatically, no other suboptions come as before, and two voices of Jaws are herd at the logon screen with a mirror display error messsage, when pressed ok, Ä° enter my pass by alt+CTRL+Del normally and hit enter, yet when the Windows session is on to use, Jaws does not start automatically as expected. Then, when Ä° turn off automatic start, at the logon screen, Jaws comes again, yet not with two-double voices and with no mirror display error, Ä° enter my pass normally, and the session gets opened, and Jaws does not start as expected. When Ä° manually start Jaws on desktop, it runs with no issue in both cases, never the less, in both of which Ä° tried to describe above, video intercept under utilities does not seem to be installed. Repairment, uninstallation, execution of the video intercept registry entry published by Freedom in 2009; they are all performed with no good result. Ä°f you have another suggestion, Ä° am ready to know. Thanks in advance. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray
As an xp dino, I am not sure of this but does win 7 have a setting to hide inactive icons in the system tray? I do not know what this would be called under win7 or if it even exists but under xp, vanishing icons might be caused by that setting, which under xp is found in the taskbar properties. Just a guess! Good luck! Doris At 08:40 PM 12/5/2011 -0600, you wrote: Well, it seems as if jaws is playing hide and seek in the systems tray. Sometimes it's there and other times not. I have all the necessary box's checked for it to show there, have checked it twice,lol. I installed drop box today and now it's in the tray, but jaws is not, so I guess it's one of them lil' mysteries no rhyme or reason puzzles? It's just my sys-tray just seems not right without jaws in it. I do not like to alt tab and bump into jaws in case someone suggest this.. I'm running the very latest of Jaws 13 on win/7 64 bit ASUS laptop. Thanks for listening and for any help Trish, Remember that while money talks, CHOCOLATE ICE CREAM SINGS! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Spyware blaster version?
Dear Sir Richard, Your post reminded me that I had not updated Spyware Blaster in some time. I downlnoaded version 4.5 from Major Geeks and just installed it here. The basic version with manual updating is still free for personal and educationaluse and according to the program always wil be. You'll need to use your jaws cursor a bit during installation but otherwise the program is fine. If you still have Miss Debbie's old scripts for the program, they still help if you recompile them. hth Doris At 07:45 AM 12/3/2011 -0500, you wrote: Hi all; Does anyone know if the new version of Spyware blaster is pay only? Or, is there a free version. Spyware blaster version 4.4 has an update to 4.5. I could not tell if this new version is pay only. Before un-installing 4.4 I would like to know if the new version is pay only. Thanks. Rich For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Tandum
Now that is a new one on me! We Europeans usually speak more than one language but Chinese is not among those! g I know that jaws comes up in the system language on the box it is installed onbut it must have confused your Taxan accents for Chinese. *giggle* Being a nonnative speaker of English, A Southern - and a Texan accent in particular - took some getting used to when we first encountered it many years ago but it didn't sound quite like Chinese. But then a friend from Texas during an English teaching campaign put on by my husband's church mistook a French exchange student who had enrolled in the English classes for a Chinese at first ... *g* glad you got your problem fixed and thanks for sharing the story. I'll keep this. *g* Smiles across the Miles! Doris At 10:29 AM 12/3/2011 -0600, you wrote: I don't need to know where it is, how to use it, why it works... I just want to say, it's a marvelous function of jaws and without it,things would progress much slower while getting help. Now I bet none of y'all had this happen upon getting a new computer, but only me... It came up speaking Chinese. I had my bro in law and we all heard it speaking this as wellas he was trying to assist me, but unfortunately, we are just plain Texans with our own unique language I might add, but this one had us in a pickle. I have no idea what he did nor does he, but some how it got on English. I think I must have done something by pressing keys for narrator and getting it on Chinese, it was a challenge I do not want to repeat. The windows narrator works very well in win/7 the voice Anna is very clear as well, in case y'all need or want to know, sure beats chinese,lol. Trish For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Spyware blaster version?
My pleasure, sir. Going back to bed here. g Doris At 09:13 PM 12/3/2011 -0500, you wrote: Thanks! - Original Message - From: Doris and Chris chipmu...@gmx.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Spyware blaster version? Dear Sir Richard, Your post reminded me that I had not updated Spyware Blaster in some time. I downlnoaded version 4.5 from Major Geeks and just installed it here. The basic version with manual updating is still free for personal and educationaluse and according to the program always wil be. You'll need to use your jaws cursor a bit during installation but otherwise the program is fine. If you still have Miss Debbie's old scripts for the program, they still help if you recompile them. hth Doris At 07:45 AM 12/3/2011 -0500, you wrote: Hi all; Does anyone know if the new version of Spyware blaster is pay only? Or, is there a free version. Spyware blaster version 4.4 has an update to 4.5. I could not tell if this new version is pay only. Before un-installing 4.4 I would like to know if the new version is pay only. Thanks. Rich For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Latest Abbyy FineReader and jaws
I have been using Finereader since its version 3.0 at about the time I lost my sight. The interface has changed several times over the years. FR has always been accessible and usable by the blind, much more so than, say, Omnipgage. Over here in Europe, it is _the_ocr program used by the blind and, when the client is eligible, often included in a reading solution package financed by the health insurance or other organization. I have only had a go at a demo of FR 11 as we usually get FR at a much reduced price when the next version is released. however, FR 11 is certainly usable and its recognition is, as always, very very good. FR's interface underwent a major change between its version 8 and 9. It is still accessible and still usable but just quite different. Whether you will be comfortable with it or not, depends largely on how you use FR and what you do or do not consider accessible and what your needs are. FR's reconition has always been amazingly accurate and it has recongized just about anything I've slapped on my scanner including poor quality print paperbooks yellow with age, typewriter pages or even mimeographed publications of a few decades ago. FR never failed me and never took even a fraction of the time I spent with some ocr packages specifically for the blind that I worked with. When the fine engine of a particular FR version was used with OB or K1K, I always found without fail that recognition in FR itself with the same version of its fine engine was better and much more painless. The setup I have yere is that I scan my books and everyday correspondence, forms, or documents my husband and I need electronic copies of wiht FR 7, which I still prefer for its interface and ease of use (due to my being very very familiar with it and my preference for working in FR's internal editor.) If I need to recognize a pdf document, maybe even a bilingual one, or a poor quality document, i use FR 10 on it because its reconition accuracy has improved dramatically since its version 7 or 8. Even on some of the bilingual texts that I ran thru fr 10, the accuracy was amazing even though I had just hset it to automatic language reconition. If you are a longtime user of Finerader, you know that you can download a free demo copy of it from Abbyy's homepage. I would defiinitley advise you to do this. Also, you can keep your trusted old FR 8 on the same system as they install to different folders. You just need to keep the batches each saves separately as FR's batches are not backward compatible. Finally, depending on what country you live in, you might be able to get the previous version of FR at a much much reduced price. I do not quite remember the price of the latest version of FR at the time. I think it may be around 200 Euros, which is roughly about US$300. The previous version may be availablefor as little as 1/4 of the price of the current version or even a little less. Unless you specifically need a feature that comes with the latest version, you are probalby going to be just fine with the previous one, especially in light of the fact that the latest version of k1k or ob usually use the fine engine of the previous version of the current retail version of fr itself. I hope this was a little helpful and that you will find the version of FR that works best for you and is the right size for your wallet. And if FR 8 does all you need it to do - and it might well do that - just remember if it ain't broke ... *g* hth Doris At 10:30 AM 11/23/2011 +0200, you wrote: Hello List Does anyone know if the latest version of FineReader is as accessible with jaws13 and windows 7 as FineReader 8? Regards Fanus For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13
Yes, on most of the voices at Nextup you do. once installed together with Textaloud or some other of their offerings, you can use the Nextup voices with any program on your computer that uses sapi. hth Doris At 03:53 PM 11/21/2011 -0500, you wrote: I heard back and was referred to www.nextup.com I found the voice I want, but am confused. Does one have to purchase Text Aloud in addition to the A TT Natural Voice just to get the voice? Thanks, Margaret -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 12:30 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 I found an A TT Natural voice I like and a couple of Ivona ones. The Ivona ones seem straight forward to add to cart, but I followed the link to purchase the A TT one and got lost. The way I'm reading the page, Wizzard Software Corp. handles sales and I just sent them an e-mail. While I'm waiting to hear back can the Mike voice really be $295.00? Thanks, Margaret -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of inthane Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 7:42 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 a few others that are available and fairly popular are: the A T T Natural Voices: www2.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php and the ivona voices (very popular) www.ivona.com/ hope these help, inthaneelf • Moderator, Blind Access Help. • Owner:er: Alacorn Computer Enterprises own the might and majesty of an alacorn www.alacorncomputer.com • proprietor: IInthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com - Original Message - From: John Justice john_just...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 Hi Margaret, It is possible to download voices that will work with jaws 12 and 13 from Freedom Scientific, itself. There are several offered by a company called Real Speak Solo Direct. Once you have acquired some of those voices, you can configure Jaws 12 or 13 to operate, using that synthesizer rather than Eloquence. There are also several voices called SAPI 5 which offer quite a variety of different people to choose from. Some, like Samantha for example, have that sharp clear sound you might be looking for.JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE WITH GUIDE DOGS JAKE AND ZACHARY PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 10:25 AM To: ju Subject: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 Hi All, I’ve got a bit of a hearing problem and am having very bad problems with Eloquence on my new Windows 7 machine with JAWS 12 and 13 and really hope there’s some alternative that would suit my needs better. I vastly prefer the GW Micro version of DEC-Talk Access 32 that I purchased years ago and ran on my XP Home computer, but my understanding is that it isn’t compatible with the newer versions of JAWS. What alternatives are possible these days? I’ll happily pay for any voices that I like and work better for me. Thank you, Margaret For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 13 failing to load on start up!
Not really but have you tried loading jaws via the startup group rather than as a service? In the past, sometimes some antivirus software that also loaded early on in the boot process interfered with jaws. Loading jaws from the startup group is the same aas brining it up with your jaws hotkey and will launch jaws only after your desktop is completely loaded and after the login screen if you are displaying that. If you need speech at the login screen, you may want to consider installing nvda and having that come up at the login screen rather than jaws. hth Doris At 04:21 PM 11/21/2011 +, you wrote: Hi Flor, No nothing that I can tell here and even with the recent jaws 13 update it still hasn't made any difference. Paul. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: 17 November 2011 23:04 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 13 failing to load on start up! Paul, Any other updates waiting, such as for instance Adobe Flash? - Original Message - From: (Lists) Paul Traynor pauls_li...@eircom.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 3:03 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 13 failing to load on start up! Hi All, Jaws 13, windows XP home. After installing jaws 13 from the DVD and setting it to load up on start-up I rebooted the computer and it won't load up. Tried restarting a couple of times but it fails to start. However, if I then do the jaws unload keystrokes of alt + F4 followed by enter and use the keys, control + Alt + J it will load up. It acts like jaws is loaded but just not talking. I uninstalled then reinstalled from the download package on the FS web site but still the same behaviour. Anyone seen this before or have any ideas as to why it would act like this. Many thanks, Paul. -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 6372 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 6498 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 13 update
Download the full installer from fs's website if you have not done so already. Try to install this on top of your previous build of jaws 13. If this fails also, make sure you have nvda to fall back on - download from www.nvda-project.org then uninstall your previous jaws 13 including shared components and do a clean install of the latest jaws 13.0.527 that you downloaded from fs's website. If the above is daunting, get someone sighted and/or experienced to help. You may want to keep nvda as a backup screenreader on your system. It doesn't need a video intercept and has saved my own heiney more than once. also, if you give nvda a good workout, you may find it does a lot of what you need and want a screenreader to do and it comes with a very user-friendly price tag ... *smile* hth Doris At 09:29 PM 11/19/2011 -0800, you wrote: Hello everyone, I am unable to install the latest jaws 13 update. I click on install. It goes through the steps, and then tells me that the patch can not be installed. It then said for me to do a jaws repair. I did then, but then got the same message. Any suggestions? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Web Site
Mr. Dave is really good with this sort of thing and I love the site as a resource too and recommend it as a resource. Everyone has their different talents and Mr. Tekkie Dave is really good demonstrating procedures and breaking information down into digestible bites. Thanks much for all the resources and the knowledge everybody contributes and that some archive and make available as resources. Doris At 07:55 AM 11/17/2011 -0600, you wrote: David, Just love visiting your web site. I always find what I'm looking for and then some.. Your instructions are always very easy to follow. I just did a test to locate where my .WAB address book is stored and found it exactly as your steps said. Thanks so much for all the hours you have put into building and still developing this site, it's a wealth of valuable information! Trish For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] msconfig and the services tab
I am not sure who gave you that advice but you do not just go and turn off all services but you better know what those services are and what they do before messing with them. I am not sure what version of windows you are using but you want to get a list of the services running under your operating ssystem and what they do. You better make very sure you know what service does what and what you need or want on yoursystem. I am a pretty advanced computer user and probably a bit geeky too but I would never ever just turn something off without knowing what it does and without knowing how to reverse the changes I made. Some people are just irresponsible with the advice they give. Also, msconfig is _not_ repeat NOT the place to disable services. You do that in the services applet - and that that is not visible to the average user has good reasons. There is a bunch of stuff in windows that can be turned off or set to only launch manually - the latter is what you need the services applet for - but you better be prepared to do your homework and know what you are doing. So three lashes with a wet noodle for messing around with something you don't seem to be too knowledgeable on and something a bit more severe to whoever got you started on that. ;-p I don't want to discourage you at all but rather encourage you to know more whawt is going on on your computer and then take control. if you rather do not get that involved, putting more ram in your computer might be another choice. however, information is availble on those services and if done right, tweaking the system can really speed it up. But never ever turn off anything without knowing the consequences - and being able to reverse them. Getting sighted assistance is, of course, normal but a cop-out IMO if you do something as geeky and get yourself into trouble. If you do this sort of thing, knowing how to get out yourself should be part of the package. And also, if you play, turn off one app or one service at a time so you can keep track of what might give you problems. When I learned about services and what to turnoff, i had a list with a description of what did what and turned off quite a bunch. I only messed up once and therefore was able to reverse the problem quite easily. I hope you will enjoy learning more about your system and what goes on under the hood and end up knowing more and with a sleeker more responsibe system. Take care and have fun but stay safe! Doris At 01:24 PM 11/11/2011 -0500, you wrote: I was told that you could go to the services tab of msconfig and disable all and press ok to disable all the microsoft things from coming on at start up. Here is what I did: Windows key+r, for the run dialog box. Type in msconfig, press enter. Control+tab, to go to the services tab. Tab over to disable all and press enter. Tab to the ok button and press enter. When my computer came back on after the restart there was no windows sound or speech. My sited wife could see the desktop and use the mouse just fine. I tried to use my short cut key to turn Jaws on, control+Alt+J, but just got a option list instead of Jaws coming on. I then had her go and reverse what I did and I had her enable all in the services tab of msconfig, and after restart I have things working normally again. Here is my question. How do you disable all in this dialog of msconfig and still here the windows sounds and Jaws? Any information would be appreciated. JimÂ… For answwers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] re-msconfig and the services tab
Dear Mr. Jim, First of all, I meant no offense and did not intend to cany name calling. Geeky in my book is a compliment rather than a deragotory term but then my book is a bilingual one and I may not always get the terminology or register of language right. So again my apology as no offense was intended. I am absolutely self-taught on the computer also back from the dos days when I reformatted and reinstalled my first computer at least half a dozen times in one weekend before I had it up and running properly. I did learn how to install the os and programs that way for sure! (I was sighted then though.) I know what I can and cannot help with, though. i'm afraid I have never touched or even just seen a vista or win 7 system and would be foolish to give advice on it. I know about services a little bit but feel at home only with xp and 2k. I wish I had a box capable of handling 7 as I would love to learn the current os but we have father old hardware here that will not handle a newer os. I learned the hard way also to not necessarily trust tech support people. They may know some things but may not have any idea about some others and especially not when access technology comes into the picture. I may also be too critical of some people though. I do want to know what is being done to my system and would read up on any changes anyone proposes to make to it. I also would never want anyone just make some changes to my system that I do not understand and do not know how to reverse. I am probably some help desk persons' nightmare at times. To learn more about windows services and what to disable or leave, you might want to google for something like windows 7 and disabling windows services. This should turn up some results that give a list of services under win 7 with what they do and what can be turned off. I do have such listings for win xp and will be glad to share but could not guarantee that or how much of the information is relvant under win 7. Again my apologies. I have utmost respect for anyone learning computers - or anything for that matter - on their own. I respect anyone who is willing to learn something new and doesn't expect to be spoond-fed. I wish I could help more with your quest but I am not qualified. I am sure there are others on this list who are more up-to-date with their technology and who will be happy to help you out. I was just outraged at the idea of someone telling you to turn off all the services. It makes me wonder now if there was a misunderstanding. I wish you all the best of luck and success with your quest and hope you come out with a nicely tuned and obediently and happily running system and also with some new experience and the kind ofthrill I feel when having solved a problem or accomplished a task or goal. Sincerely Doris At 05:55 PM 11/11/2011 -0500, you wrote: Hi Doris: Thanks for calling me a geek and saying that I am irresponsible and that I am copping-out by asking my wife for assistance. A tech person told me to do that, I know next time not to listen to what they say until I read up and investigate the issue myself as I’ve always done. I am a self-taught computer user. I have always learned by trial and error. As far as these kinds of changes, I normally would not do them, but they assured me that it would be OK to do so. My problem started when I had the staples store install windows 7 on my vista computer and I also had them install more memory as well. Now, when I type a search into the search box on the start menu, I have to type just about the whole word and press down arrow to get the search results list to come up. This works, but it is annoying. I have called Freedom’s Scientifics’ tech. 2 team about this issue. They have no idea why the search edit field is not behaving correctly. Since you are an advanced user, do you have any suggestions? Also I want to thank you Steve for your reply. Jim For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 13 settings.
Dear Sir Richard, The installation disk for jaws should be the same for both jaws standard and jaws pro as the installer is the same for both versions. Which you have on your system depends on the kind of authorization you have. If you purchased the authorization for jaws pro, you are good to go on any system. With a key for jaws pro, you can install on any supported version of windows whereas with an authorization for jaws standard, you can only install on the home flavors of windows. When downloading an installer from the web, you need to make sure you get the right one for either 32bit or 64bit - with your xp systems, 32bit is the only one that works, though - while when installing from the disk, the right installer is used automatically according to the system you are installing onto. Good luck and enjoy your new and shiny jaws 13! Doris At 06:11 PM 11/6/2011 -0500, you wrote: I have XP home and 13. I just installed the 13 disc. Can I get the original voice of JAWS? What speech is recommended? Sappy or eloquence? Does it matter? Where do I go to set punctuation? I want to hear when I type or read a capital letter by a higher pitch. My second PC has XP pro and I purchased the appropriate version of JAWS last I assume it is JAWS PRO. I did not see this on the disc I received. Is this disc the right one? Thank you for any help. Rich For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 13 and the ocr
Dear Miss Kathy, the ocr that comes with jaws is not for scanning hardcopy printed material that you would put on a scanner but it performs ocr (text recognition) on items on the computer screen. This is similar to you importing an image _picture)file of printed material into your favorite ocr and having it recognized. You do not need a scanner for the ocr that comes with jaws and therefore do not need to worry about compatibility. Rather you should check if there are any compability requirements with the ocr program you scan your books, mail, etc. with. hth Doris At 10:27 AM 10/19/2011 -0400, you wrote: I was wondering, I am in the new market for a new scanner, is there a certain one to buy for this newest jaws program. Kathy For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] J-Downloader with JAWS
since my one-click host favorite downloader Mipony no longer properly works with Sendspace, i have been looking for an alternative. Much to my surprise I discovered that j-downloader works with jaws - sort of anyway. As the name suggests, this is a java app. I have the java runtime and java access bridge installed on my xp sp3 box. I was able to add links to the donwload list by having jdownloader monitor the clipboard adn then start the download process with the continue with all button that has a shortcut. Navigating the program is very cumbersome at best though and I am wondering if there are any scripts for the app or if someone is actualy using the program with jaws and can help me get started with some memonics or advice on how to best configure both jaws and jdownloader. any help is much much appreciated. i like jdownloader because it is portable and fairly straightforward in its use apparently but this is the first time, really, that I am using a java app and I surely can use all the help I can get! If this is considered too exotic as a general list topic, you can reach me at chipmu...@gmx.net Thanks bunches. Doris For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Ctrl C JAWS 13
How would you want to include sarcasm in the guide lines, Mr. Dave? AS far as I know, this list has a fairly international membership. I consider myself a fairly proficient speaker of English but i am not sure I would always recognize irony and sarcasm for what they are and if you formulated rules and regulations in a sarcastic manner, I might take those literally. I hope that the list guidelines are kept as clear and easy to understand as possible. Thanks much. Doris At 08:51 AM 10/8/2011 -0400, you wrote: I wonder if the guidelines should be modified to include sarcasm. David Ferrin A person who has a closed mind is afraid of learning. - Original Message - From: Trouble troub...@columbus.rr.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 8:27 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Ctrl C JAWS 13 Also seen it do this in this manner. maybe instead of fixing it we will get a bell and whistle like weather radar to match useless research it! At 08:30 PM 10/7/2011, you wrote: I have had this going back for more than four versions. i find that this often happens after using an audio program that uses direct x like wmp, goldwave or the vip chat client. I do not understand why direct x should impact the speaking of certain keys in jaws but it does it reproduceably here on my machine. MOst of the time unloading and reloading jaws should clear this up too. I wonder if window eyes has this problem also or if it is just a jaws gimmick. Cheers, Doris At 07:51 PM 10/7/2011 -0400, you wrote: Have had that one for past 4 versions. After boot you get it and then it just stops saying it. At 07:41 PM 10/7/2011, you wrote: Anyone notice in the most recent beta release of JAWS 13 that when using Ctrl C (copy command) JAWS is silent and does not announce the command? I'm using XP Pro Al For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Ctrl C JAWS 13
I have had this going back for more than four versions. i find that this often happens after using an audio program that uses direct x like wmp, goldwave or the vip chat client. I do not understand why direct x should impact the speaking of certain keys in jaws but it does it reproduceably here on my machine. MOst of the time unloading and reloading jaws should clear this up too. I wonder if window eyes has this problem also or if it is just a jaws gimmick. Cheers, Doris At 07:51 PM 10/7/2011 -0400, you wrote: Have had that one for past 4 versions. After boot you get it and then it just stops saying it. At 07:41 PM 10/7/2011, you wrote: Anyone notice in the most recent beta release of JAWS 13 that when using Ctrl C (copy command) JAWS is silent and does not announce the command? I'm using XP Pro Al For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] memo about cross posting
While crossposting is considered bad nettiqutte on most lists, since this is not a secretive hush hush underground list, is using the bcc-field permissable when posting? Thanks much. Doris At 09:10 AM 10/6/2011 -0400, you wrote: Folks please stop trying to do this kind of thing. The fact is this list is so huge at the present time that we have adopted the policy of simply removing people who don't follow the guidelines. They are normally free to return if they wish hopefully a little wiser but some times they choose not to come back. Either way going up to the server takes less time than sitting here composing messages such as what you are reading right now. The fact is we don't need the extra work, it's enough to read what comes across the list making sure the information exchanged is correct and on topic. Some times we still even take a moment to try and help out on here, also yes those of us who run this monster need some answers once in a while as well. Thanks for reading this and in advance for your continued cooperation. David Ferrin http://www.jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] memo about cross posting
this is what I usually do. Even with lists that allow use of the bcc field, i just go to send again in my email program and manually enter the address for each list that I want to post to rather then try to use the bcc field or some othe rmeans to address the same message to multiple recipients. i have each list or addressee I write to on a regular basis in my address book and thus sending a message is just a matter of typing the alias for that recipient in the to field of each message to be posted. this doesn't really take longer than typing the recipient into a cc' bcc field of one message. hth Doris At 10:46 AM 10/6/2011 -0700, you wrote: Why don't we just keep it simple and not cross post. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of regilman Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 10:37 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] memo about cross posting Hi Doris, I believe that messages that have an address in the BCC field get kicked back also. Thanks, Bob -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 10:29 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] memo about cross posting While crossposting is considered bad nettiqutte on most lists, since this is not a secretive hush hush underground list, is using the bcc-field permissable when posting? Thanks much. Doris At 09:10 AM 10/6/2011 -0400, you wrote: Folks please stop trying to do this kind of thing. The fact is this list is so huge at the present time that we have adopted the policy of simply removing people who don't follow the guidelines. They are normally free to return if they wish hopefully a little wiser but some times they choose not to come back. Either way going up to the server takes less time than sitting here composing messages such as what you are reading right now. The fact is we don't need the extra work, it's enough to read what comes across the list making sure the information exchanged is correct and on topic. Some times we still even take a moment to try and help out on here, also yes those of us who run this monster need some answers once in a while as well. Thanks for reading this and in advance for your continued cooperation. David Ferrin http://www.jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Low on virtual memory
Do you have a second internal hd in your box? You can manually set the size of the swap file (virtual memory); the recommended size is 1.5 times the amount of hardware RAM in your system. however, this is a setting you should only takcle if you are comfotable doing so and also know what you are doing. *g* If you set this up wrong, your box might not boot anymore and that's something to be avoided. So maybe you have a computer geeky friend to walk you thru the steps the first time. Once you know your way aroudn the settings and get comfrotable with it, this is not difficult at all and i have manually been configuring my swap file for more than 10 years and going back to win 9x.. If you have a second physical hard drive in your box (an internal not an external drive) you can further speed up your system by putting most of your virtual memory on the second drive, preferably on a partition of its own so the page file does not become fragmented. Again, though, this is something you want to be sure you know what you are doing so that you don't accidentally render your box inoperational. If having the page file on a 2nd drive is not an option, there are utilities out there that will defrag system files - and the page file (virtual menory is such a system file) during bootup as they cannot be accessed and defragged during regular windows operation because they are in use then. There are several good defrag programs available that have the option of defragging system files at bootup. I like open source and free and am using ultradefrag for this . And to get this back on course *g*, Ultradefrag does work quite nicely with jaws. *smile* Before changing settings, though, make sure your computer is running at its best being properly maintained with regular spyware checks, not running unnecessary programs and services in the background, being defragged regularly, etc. and if you do decide to monkey around with your virtual menory settings, be really careful, create a restore point before you do, and preferably have someone walk you thru the steps in the beginning. This said, I monkeyed for myself but I have the luxury of having a fully sighted hubby who saves my butt every now and then when I get in trouble. *g* Good luck and safe computing! Doris At 07:47 PM 10/3/2011 -0400, you wrote: Hi Trouble, Here is what I have for my C drive: Type: Local Disk File system: NTFS Used space: 52,663,865,344 bytes 49.0 GB Free space: 67,301,842,944 bytes 62.6 GB Capacity: 119,965,708,288 bytes 111 GB With that many free space, do you think that I can increase the virtual memory and doing so would it prevent the message from appearing again? Here is what I found in performance under systen in the control panel: Virtual Memory Drive [Volume Label] Paging File Size (MB) C: 3072 - 3072 Paging file size for selected drive Drive: C: Space available: 67255 MB I am aware that I cannot use anymore ram on my XP computer. Thanks for any suggestions. It will be greatly be appreciated. Take care. Lennie At 08:15 PM 10/2/2011, you wrote: With 3 gig of ram you really can't add any more that xp will use. Besides of cleaning out some on the task tray. You can also make sure you have no programs in the background like virus, spyware, backup, or defragger running. Another thing you can look at is how much you have left on the c:drive. If you get low on space you can see those kinds of messages. At 05:32 PM 10/2/2011, you wrote: Hi, I am using windows XP with 3 GB ram with latest Jaws 12. I was listening live to a NFL football game today on my computer when I heard a sound, but it didn't sound like the sound you get with a fatal error. I lost Jaws and my wife told me that the screen stated a message low on virtual memory. She closed the screen and after that I got another message something to do with bector and Internet explorer 8 for which I have no idea what that means. I don't recall any other problems with IE8 and I had only the home page of the radio station and a second page for the audio opened. For what it is worth, here is the URL of the radio station. When I got the page, I pressed enter on listen live. http://www.espn980.com/ Does anyone have any idea what caused the error and what should I do? Even after my wife got me back to the desktop, Jaws was stilll not talking. So, I aborted Jaws (insert key+Windows key+F4) and use the shortcut key to bring back Jaws. Any help and suggestions will greatly be appreciated. Take care. Lennie For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Win Rar
You mean how does it interact with jaws? it is straight forward and as accessible as if not more so than Winrar. If you can operate winrar with jaws, you can do the same with 7-zip. jaws reads it out of the box without any scripts. hth Doriris At 11:10 PM 9/19/2011, you wrote: How does 7zip work? I downloaded it and don't know how it unpacks rar files. Kim McNatt-Kelly Email and facebook: kim...@cableone.net Have a wonderful day. - Original Message - From: Doris and Chris chipmu...@gmx.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Win Rar Dear Miss Jenny, Winrar is quite accessible but is commercial software. If you only need to unpack .rar archives, you might want to give 7-zip from http://www.7-zip.org/ a try. 7-zip is free open source software and, if anything, more accessible. It works with jaws, nvda, window eyes, etc. It can open .rar, zip and about a couple dozen other archive types. Additionally, unlike other decompression software packages, it will not take over any of your archive file associations unless you tell it to. hth Doris At 07:57 PM 9/19/2011, you wrote: Hi Listers Can someone tell me if Win rar is accessible? I've got a rar file I need to open. I'm running Win 7 32 bit with JAWS 12. thanks Jenny Jennifer dawson Phone: 08 94961024 Email: jjdaw...@iinet.net.au For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Arrow keys not reading pages in Firefox
www.oldapps.com hth Doris At 08:53 AM 9/14/2011, you wrote: The version of Firefox is 5 . something and my Jaws is the latest of 11. If I need to, where would I get that version 3 that you recommended? Arianna - Original Message - From: Doris and Chris chipmu...@gmx.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Arrow keys not reading pages in Firefox Which version of firefox are you using? Make sure that your version of jaws 11 is the very latest build available from fs's website . If your problems persist, you might want to go back or stick with Firefox 3.6 which is still actively maintained at the moment. hth Doris At 06:47 PM 9/13/2011, you wrote: I'm using a Dell laptop with XP and Jaws 11. I can't get the arrow keys to read anything on pages on the net. Links work fine. How can I correct this? Arianna For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Arrow keys not reading pages in Firefox
Which version of firefox are you using? Make sure that your version of jaws 11 is the very latest build available from fs's website . If your problems persist, you might want to go back or stick with Firefox 3.6 which is still actively maintained at the moment. hth Doris At 06:47 PM 9/13/2011, you wrote: I'm using a Dell laptop with XP and Jaws 11. I can't get the arrow keys to read anything on pages on the net. Links work fine. How can I correct this? Arianna For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 11 and IE 9
Have you tried using http://www.google.com/m this is the mobile page and much less cluttered. i switched to this after we lost the googlelabs accessibility page. Additionally, doing a control+insert+home puts focus on the first edit on a page, in this case the search edit. hth Doris That's right! As both of you have suggested, it worked fine in IE 8 but it is not working for me in IE 9. Is either of you using Jaws 11 with IE 9 on a Vista platform? Very Best Regards Waqas -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Janie Degenshein Sent: 04 September 2011 13:10 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 11 and IE 9 Yes the link is to turn off google instant something like for screen users turn off google instant Keep Smiling, Janie Degenshein Happiness isn't having what you want, but wanting what you already have Access Tech Consultant Facilitator of ECHO (Eyes Closed Hearts Open) Co-host of OTBS On The Bright Side www.thruoureyes.org/brightside.html jdege...@comcast.net -Original Message- From: Hans Pauli Sundstein Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 8:04 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 11 and IE 9 Hi. Google has made change's to their website, that makes the edit field more unaccessible for people using screenreader's. But a few line above the edit field, there is a link, If you are using a screenreader, than click here. I am not sure if the text is displayed just as i have described, because i am using Google in another language, but it is somewhat. After clicking on this link, the old way to use Google is back. Hans Pauli. -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Waqas Chauhdry Dato: 3. september 2011 22:04 Til: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Emne: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 11 and IE 9 Greetings Does Jaws 11 work well with IE 9? I can't seem to find the google search box on my home page. I have tried both www.google.co.uk as well as www.google.com. Without luck. Very Best Regards Waqas For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Google
You will still need to turn instant off and make sure your cookies don't get deleted but if you want less cclutter, check out http://www.google.com/m chris suggested this the other week and i have not looked back since. hth Doris At 04:36 PM 8/31/2011, you wrote: You should check your cookie setting, because mine don't change. At 02:16 PM 8/31/2011, you wrote: It is because Google is making this page too fancy. Yes the Instant Search screws things up. Unfortunately, the link to turn Instant Search off only applies to the current session. When you search again, it is turned back on! They were also hiding the edit box initially, which caused problems for screen readers. I think they did away with that. I have found that getting out of Forms Mode and refreshing the page usually solves the problem of the typed text not appearing in the edit box. This can be accomplished by hitting the Escape key twice. Now, you may need to press e to find the edit box again. If you do not have Forms Mode set to automatic, press the Space bar to enter Forms Mode. I would rather Google remember that I do not want Instant Search. They should also keep the interface simple! *Don Marang* Vinux Software Development Coordinator - vinuxproject.org http://www.vinuxproject.org/ There is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any real substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I am working on things that matter. -- Dean Kamen On 8/31/2011 9:41 AM, East, Robin wrote: I have noticed on my home and on my work computers using JAWS 12 and one PC on XP the other using Win 7 that when I go to do a google search and turns forms mode on I can type in the information or the search criteria and for some reason what I typed is not there. I can do this several times turning forms mode on and off going to top of page then jumping back to the edit field and still text seems not to be echoed or even written into the field. I cannot arrow back to see what is typed and if I turn JAWS Cursor on there is nothing to be found. Any one experiencing this and what could be the issue here? Robin East For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Issue with IE8 Jaws9 Windows XP
jaws 9.0 only marginally supports ie 8.0. Make sure you are using the very latest build of jaws 9.0 available for download from fs's website and not the initial relese you got on cd or a subsequent earlier update. If this menu problem only occurs in IE, you may also want to consider using Firefox as an alternative browser. If using jaws 9.0, use Firefox 3.6, which is currently still being maintained and updated. You may also want to download and install the latest jaws 12 build and run it in 40-minute demo mode to see if the problem with ie 8.0 persists when you run the latest version of jaws. jaws 12 should coexist peacefully with your earlier version and be available in demo mode when needed. Make sure you have all the latest updates and patches for Windows installed and that your video card drivers are up to date and that you have your windows color depth and screen resolution set up appropriately. the problem you describe with the menu bar sound a bit like what i have seen in some programs where I needed to define custom background colors to get the menu bar to read but this should not be an issue in Internet Explorer. also, you may want to give nvda a try it is very good for web browsing and a lot of other everyday tasks and a good alternative or backup screenreader especially when you cannot afford running the latest and greatest of the comercial offerings. hth Doris At 03:51 AM 8/28/2011, you wrote: Hello all thank you very much for taking your time to read this correspondence. Recently my computer crashed I had to go back get my old desktop computer out hook up. The issue I am currently having is when I use the alt key whilst using IE8 Jaws9 the menu bar is not read. It will read file, edit, view, etc when I use my left right arrow keys. However it does not read the menus when I use up down arrow keys. Anyone know of a fix for this issue? Thanks in advance for any help you are able to give me in resolving this issue. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] jaws 9.0 with Thunderbird and Firefox
I'm helping a friend with getting her computer set up. she has jaws 9.0 on her 2k box. Before anyone suggests upgrading, this is not an option.Her computer won't run anything newer than 2k and jaws 9.0 is the latest jaws version to run on win 2k anyway and she can't afford upgrading jaws either. She is trying to use Thunderbird 3.1 and Firefox 3.6 on her machine. I made sure that she is running the latest jaws 9.0 build available from Fs's website. Are there scripts for Thunderbird that wil work with jaws 9.0? Firefox is working fairly well with jaws 9.0. However, the Firefox scripts are not being called so that some of the Firefox specific keystrokes are not available when running firefox 3.x. I vaguely remember reading some time ago that there was a fix for this by which jaws could be made to load the firefox scripts properly when encoutering a firefox 3.x version. Could someone please refresh my memory on how to do this? Thanks much. Doris For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] free word processor for jaws
Jarte from http://www.jarte.com/?so=j this will probably do most of what your friend needs and probably more. i do have MS Office installed but use Jarte as my default word processor because it is so much sleeker. hth Doris At 05:22 AM 8/27/2011, you wrote: Hello Listers I have a friend who can not afford MSOffice. Is there a free word processor which works with jaws and wich is a bit more function rich than HJPad or wordpad? Regards Fanus For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Shared components
Dear Miss Maria, Shared components get updated to the ltatest version each time jaws is installed as these shared components (the jaws video intercept and some shared libraries etc.) are downward compatible. Thus if you have 5 versions of jaws installed on your system, you do not have 5 video intercepts installed but only one, the one that comes with the latest version of jaws that you have on your system, and all five versions of jaws that you have on your computer use that same video intercept of your newest shiniest version of jaws. Thus unless you have reason to remove the video intercept, you should indeed leave shared components when you uninstal your older version or your newer versions of jaws would not run until you reinstall the video intercept and other shared components. In fact, if you have need to uninstall the video intercept, you should do so from the video intercept manager of your latest version of jaws. I pray, though, that you never have reason to mess with your video intercept but just have it quietly doing its job. Warm regards and God Bless, Doris At 10:49 AM 8/19/2011, you wrote: Pretty soon I'll have about five different versions of JAWS installed in my computer at work. When uninstalling older versions, is it best to leave shared components? Thank you. Sunny Day Maria Campbell lucky1i...@sbcglobal.net When the power of love is stronger than the love of power, then the world will know peace. When at the edge of the unknown, faith provides the wings to fly. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS License
Yes, you can install jaws on more than one computer if you are the single user of those computers. You may have jaws on a desktop system and a laptop or on a computer in the den and one in your bedroom or whatever need you have. If you have a hardware dongle, you can take your authorization from computer to computer even and authorize the one you are working on each time you change computers. with an ILM license, I think you get three keys at a time if that hasn't changed and can thus install jaws and authorize it for use on three computers. If you have more than three, you need to talk to FS and explain the situation and see if they give you extra keysas needed or maybe suggest you use a dongle instead. If you just sometimes need to work on someone else's computer, I would suggest using a portable version of nvda or, if jaws is required, run jaws in 40-minute mode rather than putting a key on it that is hhardly ever used. nvda is quite good for computer mmaintenance and basic tasks such as websurfing or email. hth Doris At 11:34 PM 8/16/2011, you wrote: Hi All, Does anyone know if you can run JAWS on two different computers with a single user license? There would be only the one user. I looked all over the FS site and couldn't find anything. Thanks, Margaret For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and wireless keyboard
the numpad right mouse key will open whatever the jaws cursor is focused on. If you are not happy with shift+f10 for the context menu shortcut, you need to route your jaws to the p c cursor to get the focus where you need it to do a right click on the file or folder you want to get the context menu on.shift+f10 is easier and quicker imo as it substitutes for the applications key directly. hth Doris At 08:54 AM 8/15/2011, you wrote: Thank you. The only problem with this seems to be, that although the right click opens up a context menu, it's for folders, not files. I can right click on an mp3 file, but the menu that comes up is the one for folders that contains such options as arrange icons and so on. The shift f10 menu will bring up another context menu on the same file that gives me file options such as play in WinAmp. Do you know why the difference in opening a context menu would occur on the same file? Thanks. Vicki My heart is in his hands. His heart is in my soul. - Original Message - From: Janie Degenshein jdege...@comcast.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and wireless keyboard If you have a num pad on your keyboard. . . use the right mouse button on the num pad This is found on top of the number 9 on the num pad! Keep Smiling, Janie Degenshein Happiness isn't having what you want, but wanting what you already have Access Tech Consultant Facilitator of ECHO (Eyes Closed Hearts Open) Co-host of OTBS On The Bright Side www.thruoureyes.org/brightside.html jdege...@comcast.net -Original Message- From: Yankee Heart Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 2:47 PM To: Jaws Users Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and wireless keyboard I will be getting a Logitech Wireless keyboard, solar 750. This particular keyboard doesn't have an application key, so I will need to use the shift F10. I know in older versions of JAWS you could reroute certain key commands to other keys. For example, I moved my battery status indication so that it spoke whenever I pressed the grave accent key. I can't remember how to do this in JAWS and I'm wondering if it can even be done with the shift f10. I'm using JAWS 11 and want to make that shift f10 keystroke work by pressing a single key. Can it be done? If so, how. Thanks. Vicki My heart is in his hands. His heart is in my soul. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6377 (20110814) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6377 (20110814) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6378 (20110815) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS SCRIPTS WITH CURRENT SKYPE SOFTWARE
Hi,John, The Jonathan Mosan tutoiral was made when skype 2.5 was the current version and skype 2.6 was in beta. It is a good tutorial and some of the basic concepts certainly still apply. You did not tell us, however, which version of skype you are using. the skype interface underwent several major changes over the year. the most current tutorial I know of is for skype 4.x. It can be found at http://www.skype.com/ this is a free tutorial but quite good. it is probably the closest to the current 5.x skype version even though skype's interface has changed again some between the 4.x and 5.x cycle. Skype is usable without scripts as it has inbuilt accessibility. However, the skype scripts do make it easier to get around skype and provide such features as automatic reading of chat messages.. I personally would try skype without scripts first and get familiar with the program's layout, inbuilt keyboard shortcuts menus and such and then go and get the scripts appropriate for your version of skype. Happy skyping! Doris At 02:11 PM 8/14/2011, you wrote: Is it still necessary to download the scripts designed for making Skype more accessible? Or, are the current jaws versions already equipped with those scripts? I'm a real beginner with Skype. I'm just learning it but I'm using a tutorial which is a couple of years old. That's why I'm asking about downloading those scripts The tutorial recorded by Jonathan Mozen is quite extensive but I'm beginning to wonder how much of it applies to the current versions of Skype. I have Skype on my computer already. It comes with Windows 7. I'd certainly appreciate any help regarding this project, either on or off list. JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE WITH GUIDE DOGS JAKE AND ZACHARY PERSONAL E-MAIL: mailto:john_just...@verizon.net john_just...@verizon.net For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and wireless keyboard
Dear Miss Vicky, I am using a logitech wireless keyboard with jaws just now. Mine still has all the keys, however. You may want to look for a keyboard remapping utility. Mr. Scott aka Arizona Blue' back on 4tp talked about such a keyboard mapping utility. I think the one he used and recommended was called keytweak. I do not remember the home page for it but consulting your favorite search engine should turn this up. jaws has an inbuilt utility called keyboard manager with which you can reassign jaws specific keyboard shortcuts. I am not aware, however, of this being able to remap windows keys. the shift+f10 key combo still works for me to bring up the context menu. this is a windows keyboard shortcut and should work independent of your jaws version or, indeed, independent of what screenreader you use. enjoy that new keyboard and the freedom from being tied to a wire! Doris At 02:47 PM 8/14/2011, you wrote: I will be getting a Logitech Wireless keyboard, solar 750. This particular keyboard doesn't have an application key, so I will need to use the shift F10. I know in older versions of JAWS you could reroute certain key commands to other keys. For example, I moved my battery status indication so that it spoke whenever I pressed the grave accent key. I can't remember how to do this in JAWS and I'm wondering if it can even be done with the shift f10. I'm using JAWS 11 and want to make that shift f10 keystroke work by pressing a single key. Can it be done? If so, how. Thanks. Vicki My heart is in his hands. His heart is in my soul. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6377 (20110814) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS SCRIPTS WITH CURRENT SKYPE SOFTWARE
There is a link to Skypetalking on mr. Lee's skype script page that you gave. hth Doris At 02:20 PM 8/14/2011, you wrote: Hey John. If you are using skype 5.x, definitely download the scripts from: http://www.dlee.org/ Alternatively, you can download skype talking. I don't have the exact URL handy. thanks. mike - Original Message - From: John Justice john_just...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 1:11 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS SCRIPTS WITH CURRENT SKYPE SOFTWARE Is it still necessary to download the scripts designed for making Skype more accessible? Or, are the current jaws versions already equipped with those scripts? I'm a real beginner with Skype. I'm just learning it but I'm using a tutorial which is a couple of years old. That's why I'm asking about downloading those scripts The tutorial recorded by Jonathan Mozen is quite extensive but I'm beginning to wonder how much of it applies to the current versions of Skype. I have Skype on my computer already. It comes with Windows 7. I'd certainly appreciate any help regarding this project, either on or off list. JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE WITH GUIDE DOGS JAKE AND ZACHARY PERSONAL E-MAIL: mailto:john_just...@verizon.net john_just...@verizon.net For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] connecting aime to google talk
instructions on how to connect googletalk to Miranda IM can be found in the forums on the Miranda IM's homepage. as previously stated, the BlindGeek page has the jaws scripts for Miranda IM but not instructions on how to configure Miranda. the scripts are found in the programs and scripts section on that page and that has nothing to do on how Miranda and Googletalk can be llinked together. the above miranda scripts while put together for an older version of Miranda stil work with the current and the upcoming 10 release. Your favorite search engine will get you further information. hth Doris At 12:36 PM 8/13/2011, you wrote: Hi all what are the jaws key strokes to connect the key strokes for connecting aime to google talk. I was not able to find the instructions on getting miranda connected to google talk on blind geek zone. I mainly want to know if there is any windows 7 users using miranda. is there a new miranda messenger out there and where are the scripts for it things like that. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Scripts for chitChat for Facebook Client?
Are there any jaws scripts for the ChitChat for FAcebook client available? while fairly accessible out of the box and providing several native keyboard shortcuts, I'd appreciate scripts to enhance functionality. I would especialy like to have a way to read incoming chat messages automatically and have some hotkeys to review the chat history. Any help is much appreciated. Thanks bunches Doris For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and google talk with jaws 12
You can configure any jabba client to connect to Googletalk for text chat as Googgletalk uses the jabba protocol and servers for text chat. \hth Doris At 09:15 PM 8/12/2011, you wrote: Google talk is a chat service just like any other chat service but it is totally google, and you use your gmail username to log into it. It's totally free and you can download aim to chat with people on google talk. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and google talk with jaws 12
I use miranda IM for most of my text chatting. There are jaws scripts for miranda available from the blingeek website that will work with the current version of miranda I think. hth Doris At 10:33 PM 8/12/2011, you wrote: Any recommendations for an accessible Jabbar client? I too would be interested in switching away from the default Google client? I forget who was asking, but Googletalk (also know as g-chat in some circles) is another instant messaging program. It's been replacing MSN in terms of popularity and is the go-to program of choice for those who use Gmail addresses, though anyone else can obviously sign up too. Michelle -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris Sent: August 12, 2011 10:24 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and google talk with jaws 12 You can configure any jabba client to connect to Googletalk for text chat as Googgletalk uses the jabba protocol and servers for text chat. \hth Doris At 09:15 PM 8/12/2011, you wrote: Google talk is a chat service just like any other chat service but it is totally google, and you use your gmail username to log into it. It's totally free and you can download aim to chat with people on google talk. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and google talk with jaws 12
I have used Miranda IM to access the text chat of googletalk. There are instructions for setting up miranda with googletalk up on the miranda website somewhere. hth Doris At 11:39 PM 8/12/2011, you wrote: It is accessible if you use aim, but if you use something like mirranda im it isn't. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible repair utility
What do you want that repair utility to do? I am not sure I have heard of or would trust a global repair utility for widnows. If your windows is corrupted, it might be better to restore from a backup or to just reinstall. hth Doris At 06:00 AM 8/7/2011, you wrote: Hi Folks, I am looking for a Windows-XP repair utility that will play well with jaws. I know there is one on the windows installation disk however, it does not appear to be Jaws friendly and at this current time sighted assistance is not an option. TNX Larry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence?
Before you decide to invest, check out the realspeak solo voices up on fs's website. they are quite decent and are proprietary as in they work only with jaws. you might find some that you like. hth Doris At 05:52 PM 8/7/2011, you wrote: Hi all, I'm sure this question will seem really basic, so my apologies in advance, but I've finally decided to investigate adding a more natural sounding voice to my array of speech profiles. I'm not exactly dissatisfied with Eloquence, but variety is the spice of life. I'm not that impressed with the SAPI factory profile that's included with my Jaws 12 software, and I'm mwondering what exactly I need to do to procure other options. Am I right to assume that it's best to stick to voices that are SAPI5 compatible? Is there a prohibitive price to for such voices? Once I've settled on one, how do I go about installing it? Can I expect the same functionality as I experienced with Eloquence? Any help would be much appreciated. All the best, Michelle For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up
Dear Miss Margaret, You should not have to activate your jaws 9.0 in order to turn off the run jaws first option in it. when it comes up after bootup and asks to be activated, have it run in 40-minute mode instead. This is plenty of time to go into its basic options and to uncheck the run first jaws (or run jaws at windows startup or whatever it is called these days. when you have unchecked the option in jaws 9, tab to the OK tutton, enter on it. then close out jaws 9 and bring up jaws 10 or whatever version you want to have coming up when you start your computer. go into its options and and check the checkbox to have it start automatically. This should fix the problem. I can only guess to the reason why your jaws 9 wants to be activated when your 10 is working fine. Did you by any chance get a new jaws license in between so that the newer jaws maybe has a diferent serial number? You cold check the serial number - not the long activation code) when you bring up the different versions to fix the automatic startup. This is just a wild guess, though. good luck and keep us posted! Cheers, Doris At 06:19 AM 7/31/2011, you wrote: Raymond and All, Activating 9, which was the one that wanted to be activated failed. I got an error message: Client Activator Error Code: 52500 You have received this message due to one of the following possibilities: - You are not connected to the Internet. Check your connection and try again. - Your 20-digit Authorization number is typed incorrectly. Check for spaces or incorrect characters and try again. - The Freedom Scientific server may be experiencing temporary difficulties. Try again later. - You have canceled registration. If you continue to experience this problem, point your Internet browser to www.FSActivate.com and follow the instructions to retrieve an Activation License Code that will activate your product. I'm connected to the Internet. www.freedomscientific.com loads. The 20 digit number came up from the activation disk. I have not knowingly canceled registration. My remaining activation count just now from www.FSActivate.com is 1. When I requested more last weekend, the form wanted my e-mail address, but I never heard from FS that they've approved or rejected the request. I think I'll have to contact FS on Monday, but does anybody have any ideas in the mean time? I don't think I Can remember the last I ran JAWS 9. I can uninstall it, but I'm afraid JAWS 10 will decide it needs to be activated. Thanks, Margaret - Original Message - From: raymond lombardi ray...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 8:42 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up I would say run the version of jaws that wants to be activated and look to see if the automatically start jaws box is checked and if it is uncheck it. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
