Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 reading blank in Word and excel files!

[Mailing Lists]

Thank you, I will try this when I get into work.

Paul.
 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday 8 February 2018 17:13
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 reading blank in Word and excel files!

Try maximizing the window by pressing alt-spacebar, releasing, then pressing
x. If that solves the problem, you can make the setting permanent in the
properties/shortcut dialog.

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Behalf Of Mailing Lists
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 10:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 reading blank in Word and excel files!

Hi All,

Just loaded JAWS 17 onto a new windows 10 computer. Now when I load up MS
Word 16 documents or an Excel file JAWS is saying blank even though there is
text contained within the Word document or numerical data in the Excel
documents. I am not sure if this is a compatibility issue or not. JAWS 17
will read the title bar and other extraneous material of the documents
window but will not read the general text typed up inside the document or
spreadsheets themselves. I have also downloaded a current JAWS 2018 and ran
it in demo mode but still the same result.
Just wondered if anyone else had an issue like this.

Many thanks for feedback.

Paul.




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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 reading blank in Word and excel files!

[Adrian Spratt]

Try maximizing the window by pressing alt-spacebar, releasing, then pressing x. 
If that solves the problem, you can make the setting permanent in the 
properties/shortcut dialog.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mailing Lists
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 10:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 reading blank in Word and excel files!

Hi All,

Just loaded JAWS 17 onto a new windows 10 computer. Now when I load up MS Word 
16 documents or an Excel file JAWS is saying blank even though there is text 
contained within the Word document or numerical data in the Excel documents. I 
am not sure if this is a compatibility issue or not. JAWS 17 will read the 
title bar and other extraneous material of the documents window but will not 
read the general text typed up inside the document or spreadsheets themselves. 
I have also downloaded a current JAWS 2018 and ran it in demo mode but still 
the same result.
Just wondered if anyone else had an issue like this.

Many thanks for feedback.

Paul.




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[JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 reading blank in Word and excel files!

[Mailing Lists]

Hi All,

Just loaded JAWS 17 onto a new windows 10 computer. Now when I load up MS
Word 16 documents or an Excel file JAWS is saying blank even though there is
text contained within the Word document or numerical data in the Excel
documents. I am not sure if this is a compatibility issue or not. JAWS 17
will read the title bar and other extraneous material of the documents
window but will not read the general text typed up inside the document or
spreadsheets themselves. I have also downloaded a current JAWS 2018 and ran
it in demo mode but still the same result.
Just wondered if anyone else had an issue like this.

Many thanks for feedback.

Paul.




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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 Window not displaying properly!

[Adrian Spratt]

Yes, but what about the left and right arrow keys?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Paul J. Traynor
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 4:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 Window not displaying properly!

Hi Rick, and Adrien

Thanks for coming back to me. JAWS is set to run from the system tray and while 
I have my own JAWS 18 set to work this way  and it works fine for me the JAWS 
17 on another computer is not behaving in the same way. I mean that pulling 
jaws up on my own machine  using JAWS key + J I can then down arrow through the 
various sub menus of the jaws settings but pulling up JAWS 17 on the other 
computer using keys, "JAWS key + J and down arrowing does not produce the same 
results in that all I get is the options and inside the options sub menu are 
the usual choices ending with exit.


Paul.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Rick Justice
Sent: Thursday 8 June 2017 13:13
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 Window not displaying properly!

Hi Paul,
Are you running Jaws from the system tray?

Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message -
From: "Paul J. Traynor" <pauls_li...@eircom.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 2:52 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 Window not displaying properly!


Hi All,

Got a Dell laptop with windows 7 installed. Whenever I try and bring up the
JAWS 17 window to access something like the Utilities menu all I get is the
Options menu and a system menu. Most of the items in the system are greyed
out such as restore, minimised and maximised so nothing to access of any use
there. I did a repair of JAWS and even downloaded an available update but
still no joy. I also checked the resolution and it was at a value somewhere
in the middle of a range of different values indicating that this was the
recommended one. Just wondered if anyone has any thoughts on this.

Many thanks for help.

Paul.





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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 Window not displaying properly!

[Paul J. Traynor]

Hi Rick, and Adrien

Thanks for coming back to me. JAWS is set to run from the system tray and
while I have my own JAWS 18 set to work this way  and it works fine for me
the JAWS 17 on another computer is not behaving in the same way. I mean that
pulling jaws up on my own machine  using JAWS key + J I can then down arrow
through the various sub menus of the jaws settings but pulling up JAWS 17 on
the other computer using keys, "JAWS key + J and down arrowing does not
produce the same results in that all I get is the options and inside the
options sub menu are the usual choices ending with exit.


Paul.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Thursday 8 June 2017 13:13
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 Window not displaying properly!

Hi Paul,
Are you running Jaws from the system tray?

Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message - 
From: "Paul J. Traynor" <pauls_li...@eircom.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 2:52 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 Window not displaying properly!


Hi All,

Got a Dell laptop with windows 7 installed. Whenever I try and bring up the
JAWS 17 window to access something like the Utilities menu all I get is the
Options menu and a system menu. Most of the items in the system are greyed
out such as restore, minimised and maximised so nothing to access of any use
there. I did a repair of JAWS and even downloaded an available update but
still no joy. I also checked the resolution and it was at a value somewhere
in the middle of a range of different values indicating that this was the
recommended one. Just wondered if anyone has any thoughts on this.

Many thanks for help.

Paul.





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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 Window not displaying properly!

[Adrian Spratt]

Paul,

Just to be clear, do you realize that "Options" is only one of the choices in 
the JAWS menu? I'm not sure how you're opening the JAWS window. From Options, 
depending on the window, you either arrow right and left or arrow up and down 
to find Utilities. Maybe in another window you tab, but I doubt it.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Paul J. Traynor
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 2:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 Window not displaying properly!

Hi All,

Got a Dell laptop with windows 7 installed. Whenever I try and bring up the 
JAWS 17 window to access something like the Utilities menu all I get is the 
Options menu and a system menu. Most of the items in the system are greyed out 
such as restore, minimised and maximised so nothing to access of any use there. 
I did a repair of JAWS and even downloaded an available update but still no 
joy. I also checked the resolution and it was at a value somewhere in the 
middle of a range of different values indicating that this was the recommended 
one. Just wondered if anyone has any thoughts on this.

Many thanks for help.

Paul.





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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 Window not displaying properly!

[Rick Justice]

Hi Paul,
Are you running Jaws from the system tray?

Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message - 
From: "Paul J. Traynor" <pauls_li...@eircom.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 2:52 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 Window not displaying properly!


Hi All,

Got a Dell laptop with windows 7 installed. Whenever I try and bring up the
JAWS 17 window to access something like the Utilities menu all I get is the
Options menu and a system menu. Most of the items in the system are greyed
out such as restore, minimised and maximised so nothing to access of any use
there. I did a repair of JAWS and even downloaded an available update but
still no joy. I also checked the resolution and it was at a value somewhere
in the middle of a range of different values indicating that this was the
recommended one. Just wondered if anyone has any thoughts on this.

Many thanks for help.

Paul.





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[JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 Window not displaying properly!

[Paul J. Traynor]

Hi All,

Got a Dell laptop with windows 7 installed. Whenever I try and bring up the
JAWS 17 window to access something like the Utilities menu all I get is the
Options menu and a system menu. Most of the items in the system are greyed
out such as restore, minimised and maximised so nothing to access of any use
there. I did a repair of JAWS and even downloaded an available update but
still no joy. I also checked the resolution and it was at a value somewhere
in the middle of a range of different values indicating that this was the
recommended one. Just wondered if anyone has any thoughts on this.

Many thanks for help.

Paul.





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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

[Dennis Long]

Yes please.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 2:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Sorry, a bit behind on my emails, do you still need this?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: 30 May 2017 08:14
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Could you please post the link?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 2:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Just google search it, let me know if you can't find it and I will send you
a link.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: 29 May 2017 19:47
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Thank you for the help where do I get the most update to date MS security
essentials?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 1:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

I imagine mSE will continue to be updated until Microsoft no longer supports
it, at which time you'll probably suddenly find you have Windows Defender
instead, or will be told you need to upgrade to it. mS is good at this;
you'll always be notified so long as you don't mess around with your
autoupdate settings too much.

This article may help you:
https://www.howtogeek.com/225385/what%e2%80%99s-the-best-antivirus-for-windo
ws-10-is-windows-defender-good-enough/

The info there pertains to Windows Defender specifically but probably
applies to MSE just as well at this time. And I'd say a 94% success rate (or
so) is more than sufficient for most people.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 10:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Where do you get ms security is it still being updated?  How does it rank
today for stopping viruses?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 1:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Interesting, I'll have to check the help files about how to switch to the
JAWS cursor and check it out.

Later...



On 5/28/2017 6:16 AM, Gerald Levy  wrote:
>
> It is not absolutely necessary to use the JAWS cursor to access the 
> major components of MSE.  But you can obtain additional information by 
> using it. For instance, on the Home tab, switching to the JAWS cursor 
> will provide details about your most recent scan and whether your 
> database definitions are up to date.  Using the JAWS cursor on the 
> History tab will provide details on any detected malware threats. But 
> if you prefer not to use the JAWS cursor, MSE will still work just 
> fine with JAWS.
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Scorpio
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 8:09 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials
>
> Gerald, where do you have to use the Jaws Cursor on MS Security
Essentials?
>
> I don't think I've ever had to use the Jaws cursor for any part of the 
> program.
>
> Could you please explain?
>
> Scorpio
>
> -Original Message- From: Gerald Levy
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:55 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials
>
>
> Yes, MSE is totally accessible with JAWS as long as you use  the JAWS 
> cursor.  This is probably the most accessible anti-virus program 
> available, although it may not necessarily be the highest-rated in 
> terms of anti-virus protection.  But given the fact that both AVG and 
> Avast are now both no longer accessible, MSE is probably the best
alternative for JAWS users.
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Tom Clary
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:40 AM
> To: jaws-users-list
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials
>
> if anyone out there that uses ms security  essentials could please let 
> me know if it's easy to navigate with jaws
>

Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

[HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)]

Sorry, a bit behind on my emails, do you still need this?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Dennis Long
Sent: 30 May 2017 08:14
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Could you please post the link?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 2:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Just google search it, let me know if you can't find it and I will send you a 
link.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Dennis Long
Sent: 29 May 2017 19:47
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Thank you for the help where do I get the most update to date MS security 
essentials?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of JM Casey
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 1:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

I imagine mSE will continue to be updated until Microsoft no longer supports 
it, at which time you'll probably suddenly find you have Windows Defender 
instead, or will be told you need to upgrade to it. mS is good at this; you'll 
always be notified so long as you don't mess around with your autoupdate 
settings too much.

This article may help you:
https://www.howtogeek.com/225385/what%e2%80%99s-the-best-antivirus-for-windo
ws-10-is-windows-defender-good-enough/

The info there pertains to Windows Defender specifically but probably applies 
to MSE just as well at this time. And I'd say a 94% success rate (or
so) is more than sufficient for most people.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Dennis Long
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 10:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Where do you get ms security is it still being updated?  How does it rank today 
for stopping viruses?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 1:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Interesting, I'll have to check the help files about how to switch to the JAWS 
cursor and check it out.

Later...



On 5/28/2017 6:16 AM, Gerald Levy  wrote:
>
> It is not absolutely necessary to use the JAWS cursor to access the
> major components of MSE.  But you can obtain additional information by
> using it. For instance, on the Home tab, switching to the JAWS cursor
> will provide details about your most recent scan and whether your
> database definitions are up to date.  Using the JAWS cursor on the
> History tab will provide details on any detected malware threats. But
> if you prefer not to use the JAWS cursor, MSE will still work just
> fine with JAWS.
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Scorpio
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 8:09 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials
>
> Gerald, where do you have to use the Jaws Cursor on MS Security
Essentials?
>
> I don't think I've ever had to use the Jaws cursor for any part of the
> program.
>
> Could you please explain?
>
> Scorpio
>
> -Original Message- From: Gerald Levy
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:55 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials
>
>
> Yes, MSE is totally accessible with JAWS as long as you use  the JAWS
> cursor.  This is probably the most accessible anti-virus program
> available, although it may not necessarily be the highest-rated in
> terms of anti-virus protection.  But given the fact that both AVG and
> Avast are now both no longer accessible, MSE is probably the best
alternative for JAWS users.
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Tom Clary
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:40 AM
> To: jaws-users-list
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials
>
> if anyone out there that uses ms security  essentials could please let
> me know if it's easy to navigate with jaws
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
&g

Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

[Dennis Long]

Could you please post the link?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 2:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Just google search it, let me know if you can't find it and I will send you
a link.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: 29 May 2017 19:47
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Thank you for the help where do I get the most update to date MS security
essentials?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 1:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

I imagine mSE will continue to be updated until Microsoft no longer supports
it, at which time you'll probably suddenly find you have Windows Defender
instead, or will be told you need to upgrade to it. mS is good at this;
you'll always be notified so long as you don't mess around with your
autoupdate settings too much.

This article may help you:
https://www.howtogeek.com/225385/what%e2%80%99s-the-best-antivirus-for-windo
ws-10-is-windows-defender-good-enough/

The info there pertains to Windows Defender specifically but probably
applies to MSE just as well at this time. And I'd say a 94% success rate (or
so) is more than sufficient for most people.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 10:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Where do you get ms security is it still being updated?  How does it rank
today for stopping viruses?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 1:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Interesting, I'll have to check the help files about how to switch to the
JAWS cursor and check it out.

Later...



On 5/28/2017 6:16 AM, Gerald Levy  wrote:
>
> It is not absolutely necessary to use the JAWS cursor to access the 
> major components of MSE.  But you can obtain additional information by 
> using it. For instance, on the Home tab, switching to the JAWS cursor 
> will provide details about your most recent scan and whether your 
> database definitions are up to date.  Using the JAWS cursor on the 
> History tab will provide details on any detected malware threats. But 
> if you prefer not to use the JAWS cursor, MSE will still work just 
> fine with JAWS.
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Scorpio
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 8:09 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials
>
> Gerald, where do you have to use the Jaws Cursor on MS Security
Essentials?
>
> I don't think I've ever had to use the Jaws cursor for any part of the 
> program.
>
> Could you please explain?
>
> Scorpio
>
> -Original Message- From: Gerald Levy
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:55 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials
>
>
> Yes, MSE is totally accessible with JAWS as long as you use  the JAWS 
> cursor.  This is probably the most accessible anti-virus program 
> available, although it may not necessarily be the highest-rated in 
> terms of anti-virus protection.  But given the fact that both AVG and 
> Avast are now both no longer accessible, MSE is probably the best
alternative for JAWS users.
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Tom Clary
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:40 AM
> To: jaws-users-list
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials
>
> if anyone out there that uses ms security  essentials could please let 
> me know if it's easy to navigate with jaws
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about th

Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

[HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)]

Just google search it, let me know if you can't find it and I will send you a 
link.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Dennis Long
Sent: 29 May 2017 19:47
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Thank you for the help where do I get the most update to date MS security 
essentials?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of JM Casey
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 1:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

I imagine mSE will continue to be updated until Microsoft no longer supports 
it, at which time you'll probably suddenly find you have Windows Defender 
instead, or will be told you need to upgrade to it. mS is good at this; you'll 
always be notified so long as you don't mess around with your autoupdate 
settings too much.

This article may help you:
https://www.howtogeek.com/225385/what%e2%80%99s-the-best-antivirus-for-windo
ws-10-is-windows-defender-good-enough/

The info there pertains to Windows Defender specifically but probably applies 
to MSE just as well at this time. And I'd say a 94% success rate (or
so) is more than sufficient for most people.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Dennis Long
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 10:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Where do you get ms security is it still being updated?  How does it rank today 
for stopping viruses?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 1:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Interesting, I'll have to check the help files about how to switch to the JAWS 
cursor and check it out.

Later...



On 5/28/2017 6:16 AM, Gerald Levy  wrote:
>
> It is not absolutely necessary to use the JAWS cursor to access the
> major components of MSE.  But you can obtain additional information by
> using it. For instance, on the Home tab, switching to the JAWS cursor
> will provide details about your most recent scan and whether your
> database definitions are up to date.  Using the JAWS cursor on the
> History tab will provide details on any detected malware threats. But
> if you prefer not to use the JAWS cursor, MSE will still work just
> fine with JAWS.
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Scorpio
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 8:09 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials
>
> Gerald, where do you have to use the Jaws Cursor on MS Security
Essentials?
>
> I don't think I've ever had to use the Jaws cursor for any part of the
> program.
>
> Could you please explain?
>
> Scorpio
>
> -Original Message- From: Gerald Levy
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:55 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials
>
>
> Yes, MSE is totally accessible with JAWS as long as you use  the JAWS
> cursor.  This is probably the most accessible anti-virus program
> available, although it may not necessarily be the highest-rated in
> terms of anti-virus protection.  But given the fact that both AVG and
> Avast are now both no longer accessible, MSE is probably the best
alternative for JAWS users.
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Tom Clary
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:40 AM
> To: jaws-users-list
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials
>
> if anyone out there that uses ms security  essentials could please let
> me know if it's easy to navigate with jaws
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

[Dennis Long]

Thank you for the help where do I get the most update to date MS security
essentials?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 1:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

I imagine mSE will continue to be updated until Microsoft no longer supports
it, at which time you'll probably suddenly find you have Windows Defender
instead, or will be told you need to upgrade to it. mS is good at this;
you'll always be notified so long as you don't mess around with your
autoupdate settings too much.

This article may help you:
https://www.howtogeek.com/225385/what%e2%80%99s-the-best-antivirus-for-windo
ws-10-is-windows-defender-good-enough/

The info there pertains to Windows Defender specifically but probably
applies to MSE just as well at this time. And I'd say a 94% success rate (or
so) is more than sufficient for most people.

 
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 10:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Where do you get ms security is it still being updated?  How does it rank
today for stopping viruses?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 1:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Interesting, I'll have to check the help files about how to switch to the
JAWS cursor and check it out.

Later...



On 5/28/2017 6:16 AM, Gerald Levy  wrote:
>
> It is not absolutely necessary to use the JAWS cursor to access the 
> major components of MSE.  But you can obtain additional information by 
> using it. For instance, on the Home tab, switching to the JAWS cursor 
> will provide details about your most recent scan and whether your 
> database definitions are up to date.  Using the JAWS cursor on the 
> History tab will provide details on any detected malware threats. But 
> if you prefer not to use the JAWS cursor, MSE will still work just 
> fine with JAWS.
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Scorpio
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 8:09 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials
>
> Gerald, where do you have to use the Jaws Cursor on MS Security
Essentials?
>
> I don't think I've ever had to use the Jaws cursor for any part of the 
> program.
>
> Could you please explain?
>
> Scorpio
>
> -Original Message- From: Gerald Levy
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:55 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials
>
>
> Yes, MSE is totally accessible with JAWS as long as you use  the JAWS 
> cursor.  This is probably the most accessible anti-virus program 
> available, although it may not necessarily be the highest-rated in 
> terms of anti-virus protection.  But given the fact that both AVG and 
> Avast are now both no longer accessible, MSE is probably the best
alternative for JAWS users.
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Tom Clary
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:40 AM
> To: jaws-users-list
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials
>
> if anyone out there that uses ms security  essentials could please let 
> me know if it's easy to navigate with jaws
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

[JM Casey]

Ah. Slightly confusing on MS's part but that makes sense. Cheers.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 4:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

You are right, but that name change from Security Essentials to Defender
only applies to Windows 10.

In earlier versions of Windows, XP, 7 and 8,Defender was just an anti
malware program that protected you from email borne attacks, you had to
update Defender to Security Essentials if you also want general anti virus
protection as well.

Later...



On 5/28/2017 3:36 PM, JM Casey wrote:
> Hi folks.
> Just want to clarify something. Unless I'm wrong (and someone feel 
> free to correct me if I am), MSE has been replaced by Windows 
> Defender. I guess the two programmes are probably very similar. I've 
> never used MSE but since getting this Windows 10 machine I've been 
> running Windows Defender and it is indeed quite accessible, but if you 
> want to read some of the information it provides the JAWS cursor does 
> seem like the way to do it. It isn't strictly speaking necessary 
> though. The thing about Windows Defender is that, unlike other AV 
> programmes, it is designed to be as unobtrusive and unnoticeable as 
> possible. And it's also built into the oS, which kind of gives it an 
> advantage. However it isn't rated as highly as Kasperski or Bit 
> Defender in its ability to detect and halt viruses. I'd say though 
> that a 94% success rate is good enough for most home users and will 
> cover much of the stuff that's out there "in the wild", so to speak. 
> My old work used Scan from network Associates, and I imagine they paid 
> an exorbitant amount of money for the license to do so, and that 
> programme was terrible. I'd rely on Windows Defender, a programme bundled
"free" with your oS, before that crap anyday.
>
> But you should also get MalwareBytes to scan for malware and exploits, 
> because they are not the same as viruses and the two types of 
> programmes do not do the same thing.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 10:04 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials
>
> I've been using MS Security Essentials ever since I started using JAWS 
> because it was the only free anti virus that didn't require me to jump 
> through all kinds of hoops just to access it. It may not be the best 
> anti virus available, but it does work and it's better than fighting 
> with a program that isn't really accessible.
>
> Later...
>
>
> On 5/27/2017 7:40 AM, Tom Clary wrote:
>>   if anyone out there that uses ms security  essentials could please 
>> let me know if it's easy to navigate with jaws
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

[JM Casey]

I imagine mSE will continue to be updated until Microsoft no longer supports
it, at which time you'll probably suddenly find you have Windows Defender
instead, or will be told you need to upgrade to it. mS is good at this;
you'll always be notified so long as you don't mess around with your
autoupdate settings too much.

This article may help you:
https://www.howtogeek.com/225385/what%e2%80%99s-the-best-antivirus-for-windo
ws-10-is-windows-defender-good-enough/

The info there pertains to Windows Defender specifically but probably
applies to MSE just as well at this time. And I'd say a 94% success rate (or
so) is more than sufficient for most people.

 
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 10:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Where do you get ms security is it still being updated?  How does it rank
today for stopping viruses?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 1:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Interesting, I'll have to check the help files about how to switch to the
JAWS cursor and check it out.

Later...



On 5/28/2017 6:16 AM, Gerald Levy  wrote:
>
> It is not absolutely necessary to use the JAWS cursor to access the 
> major components of MSE.  But you can obtain additional information by 
> using it. For instance, on the Home tab, switching to the JAWS cursor 
> will provide details about your most recent scan and whether your 
> database definitions are up to date.  Using the JAWS cursor on the 
> History tab will provide details on any detected malware threats. But 
> if you prefer not to use the JAWS cursor, MSE will still work just 
> fine with JAWS.
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Scorpio
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 8:09 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials
>
> Gerald, where do you have to use the Jaws Cursor on MS Security
Essentials?
>
> I don't think I've ever had to use the Jaws cursor for any part of the 
> program.
>
> Could you please explain?
>
> Scorpio
>
> -Original Message- From: Gerald Levy
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:55 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials
>
>
> Yes, MSE is totally accessible with JAWS as long as you use  the JAWS 
> cursor.  This is probably the most accessible anti-virus program 
> available, although it may not necessarily be the highest-rated in 
> terms of anti-virus protection.  But given the fact that both AVG and 
> Avast are now both no longer accessible, MSE is probably the best
alternative for JAWS users.
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Tom Clary
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:40 AM
> To: jaws-users-list
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials
>
> if anyone out there that uses ms security  essentials could please let 
> me know if it's easy to navigate with jaws
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

[Dennis Long]

Where do you get ms security is it still being updated?  How does it rank
today for stopping viruses?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 1:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Interesting, I'll have to check the help files about how to switch to the
JAWS cursor and check it out.

Later...



On 5/28/2017 6:16 AM, Gerald Levy  wrote:
>
> It is not absolutely necessary to use the JAWS cursor to access the 
> major components of MSE.  But you can obtain additional information by 
> using it. For instance, on the Home tab, switching to the JAWS cursor 
> will provide details about your most recent scan and whether your 
> database definitions are up to date.  Using the JAWS cursor on the 
> History tab will provide details on any detected malware threats. But 
> if you prefer not to use the JAWS cursor, MSE will still work just 
> fine with JAWS.
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Scorpio
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 8:09 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials
>
> Gerald, where do you have to use the Jaws Cursor on MS Security
Essentials?
>
> I don't think I've ever had to use the Jaws cursor for any part of the 
> program.
>
> Could you please explain?
>
> Scorpio
>
> -Original Message- From: Gerald Levy
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:55 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials
>
>
> Yes, MSE is totally accessible with JAWS as long as you use  the JAWS 
> cursor.  This is probably the most accessible anti-virus program 
> available, although it may not necessarily be the highest-rated in 
> terms of anti-virus protection.  But given the fact that both AVG and 
> Avast are now both no longer accessible, MSE is probably the best
alternative for JAWS users.
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Tom Clary
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:40 AM
> To: jaws-users-list
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials
>
> if anyone out there that uses ms security  essentials could please let 
> me know if it's easy to navigate with jaws
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

[Gene Warner]

You are right, but that name change from Security Essentials to Defender 
only applies to Windows 10.


In earlier versions of Windows, XP, 7 and 8,Defender was just an anti 
malware program that protected you from email borne attacks, you had to 
update Defender to Security Essentials if you also want general anti 
virus protection as well.


Later...



On 5/28/2017 3:36 PM, JM Casey wrote:

Hi folks.
Just want to clarify something. Unless I'm wrong (and someone feel free to
correct me if I am), MSE has been replaced by Windows Defender. I guess the
two programmes are probably very similar. I've never used MSE but since
getting this Windows 10 machine I've been running Windows Defender and it is
indeed quite accessible, but if you want to read some of the information it
provides the JAWS cursor does seem like the way to do it. It isn't strictly
speaking necessary though. The thing about Windows Defender is that, unlike
other AV programmes, it is designed to be as unobtrusive and unnoticeable as
possible. And it's also built into the oS, which kind of gives it an
advantage. However it isn't rated as highly as Kasperski or Bit Defender in
its ability to detect and halt viruses. I'd say though that a 94% success
rate is good enough for most home users and will cover much of the stuff
that's out there "in the wild", so to speak. My old work used Scan from
network Associates, and I imagine they paid an exorbitant amount of money
for the license to do so, and that programme was terrible. I'd rely on
Windows Defender, a programme bundled "free" with your oS, before that crap
anyday.

But you should also get MalwareBytes to scan for malware and exploits,
because they are not the same as viruses and the two types of programmes do
not do the same thing.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 10:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

I've been using MS Security Essentials ever since I started using JAWS
because it was the only free anti virus that didn't require me to jump
through all kinds of hoops just to access it. It may not be the best anti
virus available, but it does work and it's better than fighting with a
program that isn't really accessible.

Later...


On 5/27/2017 7:40 AM, Tom Clary wrote:

  if anyone out there that uses ms security  essentials could please
let me know if it's easy to navigate with jaws

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

[JM Casey]

Hi folks.
Just want to clarify something. Unless I'm wrong (and someone feel free to
correct me if I am), MSE has been replaced by Windows Defender. I guess the
two programmes are probably very similar. I've never used MSE but since
getting this Windows 10 machine I've been running Windows Defender and it is
indeed quite accessible, but if you want to read some of the information it
provides the JAWS cursor does seem like the way to do it. It isn't strictly
speaking necessary though. The thing about Windows Defender is that, unlike
other AV programmes, it is designed to be as unobtrusive and unnoticeable as
possible. And it's also built into the oS, which kind of gives it an
advantage. However it isn't rated as highly as Kasperski or Bit Defender in
its ability to detect and halt viruses. I'd say though that a 94% success
rate is good enough for most home users and will cover much of the stuff
that's out there "in the wild", so to speak. My old work used Scan from
network Associates, and I imagine they paid an exorbitant amount of money
for the license to do so, and that programme was terrible. I'd rely on
Windows Defender, a programme bundled "free" with your oS, before that crap
anyday.

But you should also get MalwareBytes to scan for malware and exploits,
because they are not the same as viruses and the two types of programmes do
not do the same thing. 



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 10:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

I've been using MS Security Essentials ever since I started using JAWS
because it was the only free anti virus that didn't require me to jump
through all kinds of hoops just to access it. It may not be the best anti
virus available, but it does work and it's better than fighting with a
program that isn't really accessible.

Later...


On 5/27/2017 7:40 AM, Tom Clary wrote:
>  if anyone out there that uses ms security  essentials could please 
> let me know if it's easy to navigate with jaws
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

[Adrian Spratt]

Gene, fortunately, invoking the JAWS cursor is easy. Just press the top-right 
key of the numpad, above the long +/PC cursor key. You can toggle between the 
JAWS and PC cursors by alternately pressing these two keys. Working with the 
JAWS cursor has two important functions. First, it enables you to move around 
the screen without accidentally pressing a control. Second, it often gives you 
more information than you can get with the PC cursor. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 1:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Interesting, I'll have to check the help files about how to switch to the JAWS 
cursor and check it out.

Later...



On 5/28/2017 6:16 AM, Gerald Levy  wrote:
>
> It is not absolutely necessary to use the JAWS cursor to access the 
> major components of MSE.  But you can obtain additional information by 
> using it. For instance, on the Home tab, switching to the JAWS cursor 
> will provide details about your most recent scan and whether your 
> database definitions are up to date.  Using the JAWS cursor on the 
> History tab will provide details on any detected malware threats. But 
> if you prefer not to use the JAWS cursor, MSE will still work just 
> fine with JAWS.
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Scorpio
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 8:09 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials
>
> Gerald, where do you have to use the Jaws Cursor on MS Security Essentials?
>
> I don't think I've ever had to use the Jaws cursor for any part of the 
> program.
>
> Could you please explain?
>
> Scorpio
>
> -Original Message- From: Gerald Levy
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:55 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials
>
>
> Yes, MSE is totally accessible with JAWS as long as you use  the JAWS 
> cursor.  This is probably the most accessible anti-virus program 
> available, although it may not necessarily be the highest-rated in 
> terms of anti-virus protection.  But given the fact that both AVG and 
> Avast are now both no longer accessible, MSE is probably the best alternative 
> for JAWS users.
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Tom Clary
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:40 AM
> To: jaws-users-list
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials
>
> if anyone out there that uses ms security  essentials could please let 
> me know if it's easy to navigate with jaws
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

[Gene Warner]

Interesting, I'll have to check the help files about how to switch to 
the JAWS cursor and check it out.


Later...



On 5/28/2017 6:16 AM, Gerald Levy  wrote:


It is not absolutely necessary to use the JAWS cursor to access the
major components of MSE.  But you can obtain additional information by
using it. For instance, on the Home tab, switching to the JAWS cursor
will provide details about your most recent scan and whether your
database definitions are up to date.  Using the JAWS cursor on the
History tab will provide details on any detected malware threats. But if
you prefer not to use the JAWS cursor, MSE will still work just fine
with JAWS.

Gerald



-Original Message- From: Scorpio
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 8:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Gerald, where do you have to use the Jaws Cursor on MS Security Essentials?

I don't think I've ever had to use the Jaws cursor for any part of the
program.

Could you please explain?

Scorpio

-Original Message- From: Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials


Yes, MSE is totally accessible with JAWS as long as you use  the JAWS
cursor.  This is probably the most accessible anti-virus program available,
although it may not necessarily be the highest-rated in terms of anti-virus
protection.  But given the fact that both AVG and Avast are now both no
longer accessible, MSE is probably the best alternative for JAWS users.

Gerald



-Original Message- From: Tom Clary
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

if anyone out there that uses ms security  essentials could please
let me know if it's easy to navigate with jaws

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

[Gerald Levy]

It is not absolutely necessary to use the JAWS cursor to access the major 
components of MSE.  But you can obtain additional information by using it. 
For instance, on the Home tab, switching to the JAWS cursor will provide 
details about your most recent scan and whether your database definitions 
are up to date.  Using the JAWS cursor on the History tab will provide 
details on any detected malware threats. But if you prefer not to use the 
JAWS cursor, MSE will still work just fine with JAWS.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Scorpio

Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 8:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Gerald, where do you have to use the Jaws Cursor on MS Security Essentials?

I don't think I've ever had to use the Jaws cursor for any part of the
program.

Could you please explain?

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Gerald Levy

Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials


Yes, MSE is totally accessible with JAWS as long as you use  the JAWS
cursor.  This is probably the most accessible anti-virus program available,
although it may not necessarily be the highest-rated in terms of anti-virus
protection.  But given the fact that both AVG and Avast are now both no
longer accessible, MSE is probably the best alternative for JAWS users.

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Tom Clary

Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

if anyone out there that uses ms security  essentials could please
let me know if it's easy to navigate with jaws

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and Eset Smart Security or Nod32

[Mike O'Brien]

Hi

I am using version 8 of Eset Smart Security.  I have also seen the warnings
that the next version was not accessible.  So I have not been back to see if
it was improved.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 03:52
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and Eset Smart Security or Nod32

which eset version are you useing?
i am still useing version 8 because version 10 use to say it was not
accessible to jaws. for a little while there web site did say it was
accessible with jaws. 
but i was useing w e then. now i don't find any mention about the
accessibility of eset or nod32 at all.


-Original Message-
From: Mike O'Brien
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 12:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and Eset Smart Security or Nod32

Hi

I use Eset Smart Security.  I find it to be somewhat accessable.I am
assuming that Nod32 works like Eset Smart Security for antivirus  However
some changes need to be made to use them with JAWS.

1. Open Eset Smart Security or Nod32.
2. Pres f5 to open the advanced setup screen.
3. Arrow  down or press the end key to User interface.
4. Press right arrow once and then down arrow to Graphics.
5 Tab to Graphical user interface 3 state button and press space bar to
uncheck the button.
6.  Tab to the OK button and press enter.

Now the Advanced setup screen will be accessable.  The main screen consists
of a menu on the left side which is accessable and the choices for each menu
item on the right side.  The items on the right side of the screen are
somewhat accessable.  But I find that to successfully navigate and choose
those items, I have to use the JAWS cursor.


.  Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 12:42
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Is eset accessible with jaws if so what version?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 12:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Wayne, everything seems to happen automatically. Esset is in my system tray,
but I'm unable to do anything with it manually. I'm guessing that it could
have been set up so that I could work with it manually, but I can't swear to
it. Perhaps someone with some tech knowledge can post a more thorough
description.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 11:05 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

I was going to switch to Eset suite.  My question is related to what happens
if the scan finds something?  Can you find the choices such as quarantine,
delete and restore?  At Best Buy a guy said he was using Webroot and that it
is independent of the user and even updates automatically.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

I use Esset's NOD32, which has recently returned to favor as an effective
antivirus program. However, I let it run in the background and so can't
vouch for its accessibility. A tech guy set it up for me. but if you feel
comfortable letting a program run by itself, with all conditions pre-set,
accessibility isn't really an issue. Also, unlike my experience with some
other antivirus programs running in the background, it doesn't interfere
with JAWS' performance.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials


Yes, MSE is totally accessible with JAWS as long as you use  the JAWS
cursor.  This is probably the most accessible anti-virus program available,
although it may not necessarily be the highest-rated in terms of anti-virus
protection.  But given the fact that both AVG and Avast are now both no
longer accessible, MSE is probably the best alternative for JAWS users.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: Tom Clary
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

if anyone out there that uses ms security  essentials could please let me
know if it's easy to navigate with jaws

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked

Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

[Gene Warner]

I'd like to hear this too as I've never had to change JAWS cursors in MSE.

Later...



On 5/27/2017 8:09 PM, Scorpio wrote:

Gerald, where do you have to use the Jaws Cursor on MS Security Essentials?

I don't think I've ever had to use the Jaws cursor for any part of the
program.

Could you please explain?

Scorpio

-Original Message- From: Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials


Yes, MSE is totally accessible with JAWS as long as you use  the JAWS
cursor.  This is probably the most accessible anti-virus program available,
although it may not necessarily be the highest-rated in terms of anti-virus
protection.  But given the fact that both AVG and Avast are now both no
longer accessible, MSE is probably the best alternative for JAWS users.

Gerald



-Original Message- From: Tom Clary
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

if anyone out there that uses ms security  essentials could please
let me know if it's easy to navigate with jaws

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

[Scorpio]

Gerald, where do you have to use the Jaws Cursor on MS Security Essentials?

I don't think I've ever had to use the Jaws cursor for any part of the 
program.


Could you please explain?

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Gerald Levy

Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials


Yes, MSE is totally accessible with JAWS as long as you use  the JAWS
cursor.  This is probably the most accessible anti-virus program available,
although it may not necessarily be the highest-rated in terms of anti-virus
protection.  But given the fact that both AVG and Avast are now both no
longer accessible, MSE is probably the best alternative for JAWS users.

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Tom Clary

Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

if anyone out there that uses ms security  essentials could please
let me know if it's easy to navigate with jaws

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and Eset Smart Security or Nod32

[net bat66]

which eset version are you useing?
i am still useing version 8 because version 10 use to say it was not accessible 
to jaws. for a little while there web site did say it was accessible with jaws. 
but i was useing w e then. now i don't find any mention about the accessibility 
of eset or nod32 at all.



-Original Message- 
From: Mike O'Brien

Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 12:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and Eset Smart Security or Nod32

Hi

I use Eset Smart Security.  I find it to be somewhat accessable.I am
assuming that Nod32 works like Eset Smart Security for antivirus  However
some changes need to be made to use them with JAWS.

1. Open Eset Smart Security or Nod32.
2. Pres f5 to open the advanced setup screen.
3. Arrow  down or press the end key to User interface.
4. Press right arrow once and then down arrow to Graphics.
5 Tab to Graphical user interface 3 state button and press space bar to
uncheck the button.
6.  Tab to the OK button and press enter.

Now the Advanced setup screen will be accessable.  The main screen consists
of a menu on the left side which is accessable and the choices for each menu
item on the right side.  The items on the right side of the screen are
somewhat accessable.  But I find that to successfully navigate and choose
those items, I have to use the JAWS cursor.


.  Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 12:42
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Is eset accessible with jaws if so what version?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 12:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Wayne, everything seems to happen automatically. Esset is in my system tray,
but I'm unable to do anything with it manually. I'm guessing that it could
have been set up so that I could work with it manually, but I can't swear to
it. Perhaps someone with some tech knowledge can post a more thorough
description.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 11:05 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

I was going to switch to Eset suite.  My question is related to what happens
if the scan finds something?  Can you find the choices such as quarantine,
delete and restore?  At Best Buy a guy said he was using Webroot and that it
is independent of the user and even updates automatically.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

I use Esset's NOD32, which has recently returned to favor as an effective
antivirus program. However, I let it run in the background and so can't
vouch for its accessibility. A tech guy set it up for me. but if you feel
comfortable letting a program run by itself, with all conditions pre-set,
accessibility isn't really an issue. Also, unlike my experience with some
other antivirus programs running in the background, it doesn't interfere
with JAWS' performance.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials


Yes, MSE is totally accessible with JAWS as long as you use  the JAWS
cursor.  This is probably the most accessible anti-virus program available,
although it may not necessarily be the highest-rated in terms of anti-virus
protection.  But given the fact that both AVG and Avast are now both no
longer accessible, MSE is probably the best alternative for JAWS users.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: Tom Clary
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

if anyone out there that uses ms security  essentials could please let me
know if it's easy to navigate with jaws

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit

Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

[Gene Warner]

I've been using MS Security Essentials ever since I started using JAWS 
because it was the only free anti virus that didn't require me to jump 
through all kinds of hoops just to access it. It may not be the best 
anti virus available, but it does work and it's better than fighting 
with a program that isn't really accessible.


Later...


On 5/27/2017 7:40 AM, Tom Clary wrote:

 if anyone out there that uses ms security  essentials could please
let me know if it's easy to navigate with jaws

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and Eset Smart Security or Nod32

[Mike O'Brien]

Hi

I use Eset Smart Security.  I find it to be somewhat accessable.I am
assuming that Nod32 works like Eset Smart Security for antivirus  However
some changes need to be made to use them with JAWS.  

1. Open Eset Smart Security or Nod32.
2. Pres f5 to open the advanced setup screen.  
3. Arrow  down or press the end key to User interface.
4. Press right arrow once and then down arrow to Graphics.
5 Tab to Graphical user interface 3 state button and press space bar to
uncheck the button.
6.  Tab to the OK button and press enter.

Now the Advanced setup screen will be accessable.  The main screen consists
of a menu on the left side which is accessable and the choices for each menu
item on the right side.  The items on the right side of the screen are
somewhat accessable.  But I find that to successfully navigate and choose
those items, I have to use the JAWS cursor.


.  Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 12:42
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Is eset accessible with jaws if so what version?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 12:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Wayne, everything seems to happen automatically. Esset is in my system tray,
but I'm unable to do anything with it manually. I'm guessing that it could
have been set up so that I could work with it manually, but I can't swear to
it. Perhaps someone with some tech knowledge can post a more thorough
description.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 11:05 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

I was going to switch to Eset suite.  My question is related to what happens
if the scan finds something?  Can you find the choices such as quarantine,
delete and restore?  At Best Buy a guy said he was using Webroot and that it
is independent of the user and even updates automatically.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

I use Esset's NOD32, which has recently returned to favor as an effective
antivirus program. However, I let it run in the background and so can't
vouch for its accessibility. A tech guy set it up for me. but if you feel
comfortable letting a program run by itself, with all conditions pre-set,
accessibility isn't really an issue. Also, unlike my experience with some
other antivirus programs running in the background, it doesn't interfere
with JAWS' performance.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials


Yes, MSE is totally accessible with JAWS as long as you use  the JAWS
cursor.  This is probably the most accessible anti-virus program available,
although it may not necessarily be the highest-rated in terms of anti-virus
protection.  But given the fact that both AVG and Avast are now both no
longer accessible, MSE is probably the best alternative for JAWS users.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: Tom Clary
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

if anyone out there that uses ms security  essentials could please let me
know if it's easy to navigate with jaws

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

[Dennis Long]

Is eset accessible with jaws if so what version?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 12:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Wayne, everything seems to happen automatically. Esset is in my system tray,
but I'm unable to do anything with it manually. I'm guessing that it could
have been set up so that I could work with it manually, but I can't swear to
it. Perhaps someone with some tech knowledge can post a more thorough
description.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 11:05 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

I was going to switch to Eset suite.  My question is related to what happens
if the scan finds something?  Can you find the choices such as quarantine,
delete and restore?  At Best Buy a guy said he was using Webroot and that it
is independent of the user and even updates automatically.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

I use Esset's NOD32, which has recently returned to favor as an effective
antivirus program. However, I let it run in the background and so can't
vouch for its accessibility. A tech guy set it up for me. but if you feel
comfortable letting a program run by itself, with all conditions pre-set,
accessibility isn't really an issue. Also, unlike my experience with some
other antivirus programs running in the background, it doesn't interfere
with JAWS' performance.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials


Yes, MSE is totally accessible with JAWS as long as you use  the JAWS
cursor.  This is probably the most accessible anti-virus program available,
although it may not necessarily be the highest-rated in terms of anti-virus
protection.  But given the fact that both AVG and Avast are now both no
longer accessible, MSE is probably the best alternative for JAWS users.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: Tom Clary
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

if anyone out there that uses ms security  essentials could please let me
know if it's easy to navigate with jaws

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

[Adrian Spratt]

Wayne, everything seems to happen automatically. Esset is in my system tray, 
but I'm unable to do anything with it manually. I'm guessing that it could have 
been set up so that I could work with it manually, but I can't swear to it. 
Perhaps someone with some tech knowledge can post a more thorough description.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of wayne smith
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 11:05 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

I was going to switch to Eset suite.  My question is related to what happens if 
the scan finds something?  Can you find the choices such as quarantine, delete 
and restore?  At Best Buy a guy said he was using Webroot and that it is 
independent of the user and even updates automatically.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

I use Esset's NOD32, which has recently returned to favor as an effective 
antivirus program. However, I let it run in the background and so can't vouch 
for its accessibility. A tech guy set it up for me. but if you feel comfortable 
letting a program run by itself, with all conditions pre-set, accessibility 
isn't really an issue. Also, unlike my experience with some other antivirus 
programs running in the background, it doesn't interfere with JAWS' performance.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials


Yes, MSE is totally accessible with JAWS as long as you use  the JAWS
cursor.  This is probably the most accessible anti-virus program available,
although it may not necessarily be the highest-rated in terms of anti-virus
protection.  But given the fact that both AVG and Avast are now both no
longer accessible, MSE is probably the best alternative for JAWS users.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: Tom Clary
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

if anyone out there that uses ms security  essentials could please let me
know if it's easy to navigate with jaws

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

[wayne smith]

I was going to switch to Eset suite.  My question is related to what happens
if the scan finds something?  Can you find the choices such as quarantine,
delete and restore?  At Best Buy a guy said he was using Webroot and that it
is independent of the user and even updates automatically.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

I use Esset's NOD32, which has recently returned to favor as an effective
antivirus program. However, I let it run in the background and so can't
vouch for its accessibility. A tech guy set it up for me. but if you feel
comfortable letting a program run by itself, with all conditions pre-set,
accessibility isn't really an issue. Also, unlike my experience with some
other antivirus programs running in the background, it doesn't interfere
with JAWS' performance.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy 
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials


Yes, MSE is totally accessible with JAWS as long as you use  the JAWS
cursor.  This is probably the most accessible anti-virus program available,
although it may not necessarily be the highest-rated in terms of anti-virus
protection.  But given the fact that both AVG and Avast are now both no
longer accessible, MSE is probably the best alternative for JAWS users.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: Tom Clary
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

if anyone out there that uses ms security  essentials could please let me
know if it's easy to navigate with jaws

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

[Subash]

Also, there is Clamwin
http://www.clamwin.com/content/view/18/46/

The thing about it, it doesn't have a realtime, you have to run it manually.
It's a good back up to MSE, and it is totally accessible.

-Original Message- 
From: Gerald Levy

Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials


Yes, MSE is totally accessible with JAWS as long as you use  the JAWS
cursor.  This is probably the most accessible anti-virus program available,
although it may not necessarily be the highest-rated in terms of anti-virus
protection.  But given the fact that both AVG and Avast are now both no
longer accessible, MSE is probably the best alternative for JAWS users.

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Tom Clary

Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

if anyone out there that uses ms security  essentials could please
let me know if it's easy to navigate with jaws

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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

[Tom]

thanks

-Original Message- 
From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:01 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

I use Esset's NOD32, which has recently returned to favor as an effective 
antivirus program. However, I let it run in the background and so can't 
vouch for its accessibility. A tech guy set it up for me. but if you feel 
comfortable letting a program run by itself, with all conditions pre-set, 
accessibility isn't really an issue. Also, unlike my experience with some 
other antivirus programs running in the background, it doesn't interfere 
with JAWS' performance.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Gerald Levy

Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials


Yes, MSE is totally accessible with JAWS as long as you use  the JAWS 
cursor.  This is probably the most accessible anti-virus program available, 
although it may not necessarily be the highest-rated in terms of anti-virus 
protection.  But given the fact that both AVG and Avast are now both no 
longer accessible, MSE is probably the best alternative for JAWS users.


Gerald



-Original Message-
From: Tom Clary
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

if anyone out there that uses ms security  essentials could please let me 
know if it's easy to navigate with jaws


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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

[Adrian Spratt]

I use Esset's NOD32, which has recently returned to favor as an effective 
antivirus program. However, I let it run in the background and so can't vouch 
for its accessibility. A tech guy set it up for me. but if you feel comfortable 
letting a program run by itself, with all conditions pre-set, accessibility 
isn't really an issue. Also, unlike my experience with some other antivirus 
programs running in the background, it doesn't interfere with JAWS' performance.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Gerald Levy 
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials


Yes, MSE is totally accessible with JAWS as long as you use  the JAWS cursor.  
This is probably the most accessible anti-virus program available, although it 
may not necessarily be the highest-rated in terms of anti-virus protection.  
But given the fact that both AVG and Avast are now both no longer accessible, 
MSE is probably the best alternative for JAWS users.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: Tom Clary
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

if anyone out there that uses ms security  essentials could please let me know 
if it's easy to navigate with jaws

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

[Tom]

thank you

-Original Message- 
From: Gerald Levy

Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 6:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials


Yes, MSE is totally accessible with JAWS as long as you use  the JAWS
cursor.  This is probably the most accessible anti-virus program available,
although it may not necessarily be the highest-rated in terms of anti-virus
protection.  But given the fact that both AVG and Avast are now both no
longer accessible, MSE is probably the best alternative for JAWS users.

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Tom Clary

Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

if anyone out there that uses ms security  essentials could please
let me know if it's easy to navigate with jaws

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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

[Gerald Levy]

Yes, MSE is totally accessible with JAWS as long as you use  the JAWS 
cursor.  This is probably the most accessible anti-virus program available, 
although it may not necessarily be the highest-rated in terms of anti-virus 
protection.  But given the fact that both AVG and Avast are now both no 
longer accessible, MSE is probably the best alternative for JAWS users.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Tom Clary

Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

if anyone out there that uses ms security  essentials could please
let me know if it's easy to navigate with jaws

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[JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

[Tom Clary]

 if anyone out there that uses ms security  essentials could please
let me know if it's easy to navigate with jaws

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[JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and Thunderbird

[anna vimini]

Yes if you change the list view to a tree view this will work for 
earlier versions of jaws.


To do this just go to the view menu and arrow down to sort bye and press 
enter and then arrow down to threaded and press enter to check this will 
change the list view to a tree view and then earlier virsions of jaws 
will read the messages in your in box.


hope this helps

I believe that if you set your folder views in thunderbird to threaded 
the older versions of JAWS will read them. I have seen this mentioned on 
several

different email lists I am on.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

block quote
On Apr 29, 2017, at 8:35 PM, Jim Pursley

 wrote:
J18 is the only version of JAWS currently capable of reading 
Thunderbird's mailboxes, if I'm right.  I'm uncomfortable not having a 
JAWS backup to work
my entire system.  Anyone know if J17 can be configured with the latest 
J18 build which lifted the awesome silence when opening my Thunderbird 
in box?

 Eric?
--
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 and Thunderbird

[Greg Wocher]

Hello,
I believe that if you set your folder views in thunderbird to threaded the 
older versions of JAWS will read them. I have seen this mentioned on several 
different email lists I am on.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

> On Apr 29, 2017, at 8:35 PM, Jim Pursley  wrote:
> 
> J18 is the only version of JAWS currently capable of reading Thunderbird's 
> mailboxes, if I'm right.  I'm uncomfortable not having a JAWS backup to work 
> my entire system.  Anyone know if J17 can be configured with the latest J18 
> build which lifted the awesome silence when opening my Thunderbird in box?  
> Eric?
> 
> -- 
> 
> James C. Pursley
> Chief Investment Officer
> Gaia Capital Management
> Underpinned by sustainably growing cash dividends from quality
> companies, we seek long term client account growth
> 
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[JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 and Thunderbird

[Jim Pursley]

J18 is the only version of JAWS currently capable of reading 
Thunderbird's mailboxes, if I'm right.  I'm uncomfortable not having a 
JAWS backup to work my entire system.  Anyone know if J17 can be 
configured with the latest J18 build which lifted the awesome silence 
when opening my Thunderbird in box?  Eric?


--

James C. Pursley
Chief Investment Officer
Gaia Capital Management
Underpinned by sustainably growing cash dividends from quality
 companies, we seek long term client account growth

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[JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 spelling attack

[wayne smith]

Hello all-

 

I just updated my JAWS 17 to its latest version.  I am taking a Spanish
class and when I go to the website and type in answers to questions in
Spanish it yells at me, "misspelled word for every word.  What do I need to
change?

Thanks for any help in advance.

 

Wayne

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[JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 Update Available + What's New, Attention Windows 10 Users

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

A new Jaws 17 update is out, J17.0.2729.  Below are the download links +
what's knew for this update.  It's mainly for Windows 10 users, read the
Enhancement below the download links before doing anything else!

32 Bit:

http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/172729PRC798/J17.0.2729enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/172729PRC798/J17.0.2729enu-x64.exe

Enhancements in JAWS 17.0.2729 (March 2017:

This release contains changes necessary to support internal changes related
to Microsoft UI Automation (UIA) coming in the next update of Windows 10
scheduled
for April 2017. It is recommended that users update JAWS 17 at this time.

Take care.
Mike
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[JAWS-Users] Jaws 17 Update Available + What's New, Attention Windows 10 Users

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

A new Jaws 17 update is out, J17.0.2729.  Below are the download links + 
what's knew for this update.  It's mainly for Windows 10 users, read the 
Enhancement below the download links before doing anything else!

32 Bit:

ftp://ftp.freedomscientific.com/users/hj/private/WebFiles/JAWS/172729PRC798/J17.0.2729enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

ftp://ftp.freedomscientific.com/users/hj/private/WebFiles/JAWS/172729PRC798/J17.0.2729enu-x64.exe

Enhancements in JAWS 17.0.2729 (March 2017:

This release contains changes necessary to support internal changes related 
to Microsoft UI Automation (UIA) coming in the next update of Windows 10 
scheduled
for April 2017. It is recommended that users update JAWS 17 at this time.

Take care.
Mike
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[JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 and Outlook 2010: Reading calendar appointments in shared calendars

[Daniel Gartmann]

 

Hi,

 

I am trying to figure out what the best way is to get at another calendar
apart from your own in Outlook 2010.

 

Anybody out there with experience in using JAWS 17 or JAWS 18 in Outlook
2010 and reading other people's calendars?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Daniel

 

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[JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Windows 10 and XFinity

[jyandt.martin]

To All:

Can anyone tell me if it is possible for me, using JAWS 17, Windows 10 and 
XFinity, to see who is using my internet at home? And if so, what are the steps 
for doing so? I know that the first step is going into my Control Panel ... 
after that, I am lost. Thanks.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

[Jason White]

The "link to previous" button that unlinks sections is in the Navigation group
of the Design tab when you're in the footer field. It's straight after
"previous" and "next" in the tab sequence. JAWS reads it correctly and
indicates whether it is checked.

I think you probably have corrupt files somewhere on your system, or an
outdated version of Microsoft Word 2016. If you don't have any luck in
tracking down the issue, try contacting whoever can provide you with either
Microsoft  technical support or JAWS technical support.

Jean Menzies <jemenz...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> Hi Jason,
> 
> I have now upgraded to Jaws 18, but I am not getting the results you get. I
> can get to the footer area in both ways as you describe. Once in the footer
> edit area, text is not spoken as I type, and nothing is readable in the
> field.
> 
> Then if I exit the footer dialogue and use insert-F1, I know that footer
> text was entered. Going back in to edit, I again cannot hear anything in
> terms of what the footer text is.
> 
> I also can't seem to find ribbon controls for adding date, time, etc.
> 
> On this same topic, can you go under Layout and insert a section break and
> see if you can unlink it from other document sections? I can't identify the
> button to do that either.
> 
> The good thing is that you can do this. I just have to figure out why I
> can't.
> 
> I'm using Office 365, if that might be different.
> 
> Jean
> 
> -Original Message- From: Jason White
> Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 9:13 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers
> 
> I'm trying to test this with JAWS 18, Windows 10 and Word 2016.
> 
> I can edit a footer by typing Alt+N, O, E. Alternatively, I can work my way
> through the Insert tab of the ribbon to find this command (Insert -> Footer
> ->
> Edit Footer).
> 
> At this point (having invoked the above command), I'm in a footer field into
> which I can type text or edit existing text. While editing the footer, there
> are commands in the ribbon to insert the time and date, document
> information,
> etc.
> 
> JAWS is reading everything as expected.
> 
> Are your steps different from mine? If not, this might have been fixed in
> JAWS
> 18 or in a Microsoft Word update. I'm running Word 2016 Pro Plus as
> downloaded
> from Office365, so it's always kept up to date.
> 
> Jean Menzies <jemenz...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> > I’m using Word 2016 and Jaws 17.0.2619.
> > 
> > I want to create documents with page footers. Each page needs its own
> > unique footer. I know how to get to the footer dialogue, but Jaws
> > doesn’t read any of the text in the dialogue as I type or as it appears.
> > Outside of the dialogue, I can use insert F1 to hear document info, but
> > this is a tedious way to check footers, and doesn’t allow for editing,
> > etc.
> > 
> > Is there a solution for this? It used to work in previous versions of
> > Word and Jaws.
> > 
> > Jean
> > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 
> 
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

[Jean Menzies]

Hi Brian,

Yes, I renamed the normal.dotm template, and also did a repair on Office 
365. I tried changing the footer style, but it wouldn't accept a change that 
way from within the edit field of the style. I was able to change its font 
size, so changes can be made, though.


You guys have given me excellent advice, but so far I haven't been able to 
resolve this. The good thing is that it works for you, so hopefully I can 
fix this. I will get a sighted person to look at the screen as well, just in 
case. Possibly, it might be an Office Word 365 thing as well.


I'll keep trying things.

Thanks.

Jean

-Original Message- 
From: Brian Lee

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 8:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hello again Jean,

Another thought is that if some of the styles are messed up, they are based 
on the normal template.  You could rename the normal.dotm file and restart 
Word.  The normal.dotm template should be created by Word and this might 
cause the styles to work correctly.  However, you have Office 365 and I am 
not sure if you have the ability to work with those files in that version of 
Word or not but you probably know whether or not you do.  In Word 2013 you 
go under the user folder, open App Data, open Roaming, open Microsoft, and 
open templates to find the normal.dotm file.This would at least let you 
know if the problem was with the styles.  Again, though, I don't know if 
this should be done in an Office 365 installation.


Take care.

Brian Lee
brianl...@charter.net

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Jean Menzies

Sent: November 24, 2016 4:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hi all,

Some small progress. I have found that if the Jaws virtual ribbon is 
enabled, I can't access any of the Footer ribbons. So, with it off, I can at 
least tab through the design choices, finding the areas for unlinking, etc.


But I still can't read any of the entered text until I exit the Footer style 
and go back to the document. Any ideas?


Jean

-Original Message-
From: Jean Menzies
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 4:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hi Brian,

Excellent description, and I know that's how it should work. But no matter 
what I do, I can't read any of the text I'm entering, have entered, or am 
wanting to edit. Insert-F tells me the footer style text is black on black.

That shouldn't matter, I don't think.

I didn't import any old Jaws settings when I upgraded to version 18. I just 
can't find why this isn't working. I also don't see the choices to unlink 
from previous sections with section breaks, etc.


Very strange.

Jean

-Original Message-
From: Brian Lee
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 10:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hello,

Here is some additional information on creating footers.  I am using Word
2013 but I don't think the steps vary much from 2016.

Instead of using the dialog box you might want to use the options in the 
header and footer group of the insert menu and under the design tab which is 
added as a tab to the right end of the ribbon after a footer is chosen.  To 
enter a built-in footer you can use CTRL with right arrow key across the 
lower part of the ribbon under the insert tab until you get to the header 
and footer group.  Using Word 2013, this is done seven times.  Tab to the 
footer menu item and press enter.  Alternatively, use Alt followed by N 
followed by O.  The first item is a blank footer and the second built-in 
footer type is a footer with three areas.  If you pick the second one you 
can enter the footer text in the first area and the page number in the third 
and use different alignment for the text and page number if you want.  If 
you choose the first built-in footer type you can type the text using 
nonbreaking spaces between all the words (CTRL+Shift+Spacebar) and then 
leave a space before entering the page number.  Immediately after inserting 
the page number use CTRL with J followed by shift key and enter.  This will 
cause the text to be left aligned and the page number to be right aligned.
If you want to insert a page number using a page field use Alt with Shift 
and P.  Otherwise, you can insert it from the page numbers item under the 
design tab of the ribbon.  You will find the “Link to previous”, “different 
first page” and other often used options under the design tab.  It is a good 
idea to use section breaks and then insert the blank footer for the new 
section, uncheck the “link to previous” checkbox under the design tab of the 
header and footer tools which is added to the right end of the ribbon as a 
contextual tab, and then type the footer information

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

[Brian Lee]

Hello again Jean,

Another thought is that if some of the styles are messed up, they are based on 
the normal template.  You could rename the normal.dotm file and restart Word.  
The normal.dotm template should be created by Word and this might cause the 
styles to work correctly.  However, you have Office 365 and I am not sure if 
you have the ability to work with those files in that version of Word or not 
but you probably know whether or not you do.  In Word 2013 you go under the 
user folder, open App Data, open Roaming, open Microsoft, and open templates to 
find the normal.dotm file.This would at least let you know if the problem 
was with the styles.  Again, though, I don't know if this should be done in an 
Office 365 installation.  

Take care.  

Brian Lee
brianl...@charter.net

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jean Menzies
Sent: November 24, 2016 4:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hi all,

Some small progress. I have found that if the Jaws virtual ribbon is enabled, I 
can't access any of the Footer ribbons. So, with it off, I can at least tab 
through the design choices, finding the areas for unlinking, etc.

But I still can't read any of the entered text until I exit the Footer style 
and go back to the document. Any ideas?

Jean

-Original Message-
From: Jean Menzies
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 4:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hi Brian,

Excellent description, and I know that's how it should work. But no matter what 
I do, I can't read any of the text I'm entering, have entered, or am wanting to 
edit. Insert-F tells me the footer style text is black on black.
That shouldn't matter, I don't think.

I didn't import any old Jaws settings when I upgraded to version 18. I just 
can't find why this isn't working. I also don't see the choices to unlink from 
previous sections with section breaks, etc.

Very strange.

Jean

-Original Message-
From: Brian Lee
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 10:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hello,

Here is some additional information on creating footers.  I am using Word
2013 but I don't think the steps vary much from 2016.

Instead of using the dialog box you might want to use the options in the header 
and footer group of the insert menu and under the design tab which is added as 
a tab to the right end of the ribbon after a footer is chosen.  To enter a 
built-in footer you can use CTRL with right arrow key across the lower part of 
the ribbon under the insert tab until you get to the header and footer group.  
Using Word 2013, this is done seven times.  Tab to the footer menu item and 
press enter.  Alternatively, use Alt followed by N followed by O.  The first 
item is a blank footer and the second built-in footer type is a footer with 
three areas.  If you pick the second one you can enter the footer text in the 
first area and the page number in the third and use different alignment for the 
text and page number if you want.  If you choose the first built-in footer type 
you can type the text using nonbreaking spaces between all the words 
(CTRL+Shift+Spacebar) and then leave a space before entering the page number.  
Immediately after inserting the page number use CTRL with J followed by shift 
key and enter.  This will cause the text to be left aligned and the page number 
to be right aligned.
If you want to insert a page number using a page field use Alt with Shift and 
P.  Otherwise, you can insert it from the page numbers item under the design 
tab of the ribbon.  You will find the “Link to previous”, “different first 
page” and other often used options under the design tab.  It is a good idea to 
use section breaks and then insert the blank footer for the new section, 
uncheck the “link to previous” checkbox under the design tab of the header and 
footer tools which is added to the right end of the ribbon as a contextual tab, 
and then type the footer information.  To insert a Next page section break 
press Alt followed by P followed by B followed by N.  Go To Footer is a command 
that can be added to the quick access toolbar or to a customized ribbon group, 
which might be helpful if you are frequently working with footers.  Remember 
that using Alt with delete will let you know the vertical position of the 
cursor so you can verify you are working in a footer area.  The escape key 
should move focus from the footer area back into the main document pane.

Take care.

Brian Lee
brianl...@charter.net

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jason White
Sent: November 24, 2016 9:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

[Brian Lee]

Hi Jean,

JAWS should be letting you know that the colors are black on white and not 
black on black for the footer style.  At least with my installation of word the 
footer style is pretty much the same as the normal style.  Being that this has 
happened when you use JAWS 17 and JAWS 18, it would appear that something might 
be corrupt with the Word installation.  What you might try for a workaround is 
to select the footer area and apply the normal style by using CTRL+Shift+N.  
See if you can read the text when the normal style is used in the footer.  In 
either case, JAWS should be reporting the foreground and background colors as 
black on white when using JAWS key F or when using JAWS key 5.  You might also 
create your own style and then when you move to the footer area and unlink the 
footer from the previous one, you can select from the beginning to the end of 
the line and apply your created style.  The new style could be called something 
like "MyFooter."  I think you said in another message that JAWS wouldn't read 
the text when using JAWS 17 and 18 and that you didn't merge any of the 
settings.  Try refreshing the screen using JAWS key with escape key and 
maximizing the window before typing or reading the text.  Sure hope you get it 
working!

Take care.

Brian Lee
brianl...@charter.net

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jean Menzies
Sent: November 24, 2016 4:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hi all,

Some small progress. I have found that if the Jaws virtual ribbon is enabled, I 
can't access any of the Footer ribbons. So, with it off, I can at least tab 
through the design choices, finding the areas for unlinking, etc.

But I still can't read any of the entered text until I exit the Footer style 
and go back to the document. Any ideas?

Jean

-Original Message-
From: Jean Menzies
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 4:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hi Brian,

Excellent description, and I know that's how it should work. But no matter what 
I do, I can't read any of the text I'm entering, have entered, or am wanting to 
edit. Insert-F tells me the footer style text is black on black.
That shouldn't matter, I don't think.

I didn't import any old Jaws settings when I upgraded to version 18. I just 
can't find why this isn't working. I also don't see the choices to unlink from 
previous sections with section breaks, etc.

Very strange.

Jean

-Original Message-
From: Brian Lee
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 10:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hello,

Here is some additional information on creating footers.  I am using Word
2013 but I don't think the steps vary much from 2016.

Instead of using the dialog box you might want to use the options in the header 
and footer group of the insert menu and under the design tab which is added as 
a tab to the right end of the ribbon after a footer is chosen.  To enter a 
built-in footer you can use CTRL with right arrow key across the lower part of 
the ribbon under the insert tab until you get to the header and footer group.  
Using Word 2013, this is done seven times.  Tab to the footer menu item and 
press enter.  Alternatively, use Alt followed by N followed by O.  The first 
item is a blank footer and the second built-in footer type is a footer with 
three areas.  If you pick the second one you can enter the footer text in the 
first area and the page number in the third and use different alignment for the 
text and page number if you want.  If you choose the first built-in footer type 
you can type the text using nonbreaking spaces between all the words 
(CTRL+Shift+Spacebar) and then leave a space before entering the page number.  
Immediately after inserting the page number use CTRL with J followed by shift 
key and enter.  This will cause the text to be left aligned and the page number 
to be right aligned.
If you want to insert a page number using a page field use Alt with Shift and 
P.  Otherwise, you can insert it from the page numbers item under the design 
tab of the ribbon.  You will find the “Link to previous”, “different first 
page” and other often used options under the design tab.  It is a good idea to 
use section breaks and then insert the blank footer for the new section, 
uncheck the “link to previous” checkbox under the design tab of the header and 
footer tools which is added to the right end of the ribbon as a contextual tab, 
and then type the footer information.  To insert a Next page section break 
press Alt followed by P followed by B followed by N.  Go To Footer is a command 
that can be added to the quick access toolbar or to a customized ribbon group, 
which might be helpful if you are frequently working with footers.

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

[Jean Menzies]

Thanks, Mike. The ribbons appear to be maximized. I hear the option to 
collapse them, so they must be okay. Good thought, though. Thanks.


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 5:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hi Jean,

Make sure the ribbons are maximized.
To navigate ribbons more efficiently the ribbons need to be maximized.  The
keystroke is, control + F1.  This keystroke is a toggle so, this keystroke
will maximize & minimize.  To check if the ribbons are minimized / maximized
do the following:
1. Press the, Alt key, to open the ribbons.
2. Open the context menu with either the application key or, shift + F10.
3. Arrow up or down to the, Minimize, option.  If, Minimize, is checked, the
ribbons are minimized  Pressing, enter, on this checkbox, will uncheck it &
close the context menu & your menues will now be maximized.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message - 
From: Jean Menzies

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers


Hi all,

Some small progress. I have found that if the Jaws virtual ribbon is
enabled, I can't access any of the Footer ribbons. So, with it off, I can at
least tab through the design choices, finding the areas for unlinking, etc.

But I still can't read any of the entered text until I exit the Footer style
and go back to the document. Any ideas?

Jean

-Original Message- 
From: Jean Menzies

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 4:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hi Brian,

Excellent description, and I know that's how it should work. But no matter
what I do, I can't read any of the text I'm entering, have entered, or am
wanting to edit. Insert-F tells me the footer style text is black on black.
That shouldn't matter, I don't think.

I didn't import any old Jaws settings when I upgraded to version 18. I just
can't find why this isn't working. I also don't see the choices to unlink
from previous sections with section breaks, etc.

Very strange.

Jean

-Original Message- 
From: Brian Lee

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 10:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hello,

Here is some additional information on creating footers.  I am using Word
2013 but I don't think the steps vary much from 2016.

Instead of using the dialog box you might want to use the options in the
header and footer group of the insert menu and under the design tab which is
added as a tab to the right end of the ribbon after a footer is chosen.  To
enter a built-in footer you can use CTRL with right arrow key across the
lower part of the ribbon under the insert tab until you get to the header
and footer group.  Using Word 2013, this is done seven times.  Tab to the
footer menu item and press enter.  Alternatively, use Alt followed by N
followed by O.  The first item is a blank footer and the second built-in
footer type is a footer with three areas.  If you pick the second one you
can enter the footer text in the first area and the page number in the third
and use different alignment for the text and page number if you want.  If
you choose the first built-in footer type you can type the text using
nonbreaking spaces between all the words (CTRL+Shift+Spacebar) and then
leave a space before entering the page number.  Immediately after inserting
the page number use CTRL with J followed by shift key and enter.  This will
cause the text to be left aligned and the page number to be right aligned.
If you want to insert a page number using a page field use Alt with Shift
and P.  Otherwise, you can insert it from the page numbers item under the
design tab of the ribbon.  You will find the “Link to previous”, “different
first page” and other often used options under the design tab.  It is a good
idea to use section breaks and then insert the blank footer for the new
section, uncheck the “link to previous” checkbox under the design tab of the
header and footer tools which is added to the right end of the ribbon as a
contextual tab, and then type the footer information.  To insert a Next page
section break press Alt followed by P followed by B followed by N.  Go To
Footer is a command that can be added to the quick access toolbar or to a
customized ribbon group, which might be helpful if you are frequently
working with footers.  Remember that using Alt with delete will let you know
the vertical position of the cursor so you can verify you are working in a
footer area.  The escape key should move focus from the footer area back
into the main document pane.

Take care.

   Brian Lee
brianl...@charter.net

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jason White
Sent: November 24, 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

[Mike B.]

Hi Jean,

Make sure the ribbons are maximized.
To navigate ribbons more efficiently the ribbons need to be maximized.  The
keystroke is, control + F1.  This keystroke is a toggle so, this keystroke
will maximize & minimize.  To check if the ribbons are minimized / maximized
do the following:
1. Press the, Alt key, to open the ribbons.
2. Open the context menu with either the application key or, shift + F10.
3. Arrow up or down to the, Minimize, option.  If, Minimize, is checked, the
ribbons are minimized  Pressing, enter, on this checkbox, will uncheck it &
close the context menu & your menues will now be maximized.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message - 
From: Jean Menzies
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers


Hi all,

Some small progress. I have found that if the Jaws virtual ribbon is
enabled, I can't access any of the Footer ribbons. So, with it off, I can at
least tab through the design choices, finding the areas for unlinking, etc.

But I still can't read any of the entered text until I exit the Footer style
and go back to the document. Any ideas?

Jean

-Original Message- 
From: Jean Menzies
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 4:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hi Brian,

Excellent description, and I know that's how it should work. But no matter
what I do, I can't read any of the text I'm entering, have entered, or am
wanting to edit. Insert-F tells me the footer style text is black on black.
That shouldn't matter, I don't think.

I didn't import any old Jaws settings when I upgraded to version 18. I just
can't find why this isn't working. I also don't see the choices to unlink
from previous sections with section breaks, etc.

Very strange.

Jean

-Original Message- 
From: Brian Lee
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 10:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hello,

Here is some additional information on creating footers.  I am using Word
2013 but I don't think the steps vary much from 2016.

Instead of using the dialog box you might want to use the options in the
header and footer group of the insert menu and under the design tab which is
added as a tab to the right end of the ribbon after a footer is chosen.  To
enter a built-in footer you can use CTRL with right arrow key across the
lower part of the ribbon under the insert tab until you get to the header
and footer group.  Using Word 2013, this is done seven times.  Tab to the
footer menu item and press enter.  Alternatively, use Alt followed by N
followed by O.  The first item is a blank footer and the second built-in
footer type is a footer with three areas.  If you pick the second one you
can enter the footer text in the first area and the page number in the third
and use different alignment for the text and page number if you want.  If
you choose the first built-in footer type you can type the text using
nonbreaking spaces between all the words (CTRL+Shift+Spacebar) and then
leave a space before entering the page number.  Immediately after inserting
the page number use CTRL with J followed by shift key and enter.  This will
cause the text to be left aligned and the page number to be right aligned.
If you want to insert a page number using a page field use Alt with Shift
and P.  Otherwise, you can insert it from the page numbers item under the
design tab of the ribbon.  You will find the “Link to previous”, “different
first page” and other often used options under the design tab.  It is a good
idea to use section breaks and then insert the blank footer for the new
section, uncheck the “link to previous” checkbox under the design tab of the
header and footer tools which is added to the right end of the ribbon as a
contextual tab, and then type the footer information.  To insert a Next page
section break press Alt followed by P followed by B followed by N.  Go To
Footer is a command that can be added to the quick access toolbar or to a
customized ribbon group, which might be helpful if you are frequently
working with footers.  Remember that using Alt with delete will let you know
the vertical position of the cursor so you can verify you are working in a
footer area.  The escape key should move focus from the footer area back
into the main document pane.

Take care.

Brian Lee
brianl...@charter.net

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jason White
Sent: November 24, 2016 9:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

I'm trying to test this with JAWS 18, Windows 10 and Word 2016.

I can edit a footer by typing Alt+N, O, E. Alternatively, I can work my way
through the Insert tab of the ribbon to find this command (Insert ->
Footer

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

[Jean Menzies]

Hi all,

Some small progress. I have found that if the Jaws virtual ribbon is 
enabled, I can't access any of the Footer ribbons. So, with it off, I can at 
least tab through the design choices, finding the areas for unlinking, etc.


But I still can't read any of the entered text until I exit the Footer style 
and go back to the document. Any ideas?


Jean

-Original Message- 
From: Jean Menzies

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 4:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hi Brian,

Excellent description, and I know that's how it should work. But no matter
what I do, I can't read any of the text I'm entering, have entered, or am
wanting to edit. Insert-F tells me the footer style text is black on black.
That shouldn't matter, I don't think.

I didn't import any old Jaws settings when I upgraded to version 18. I just
can't find why this isn't working. I also don't see the choices to unlink
from previous sections with section breaks, etc.

Very strange.

Jean

-Original Message- 
From: Brian Lee

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 10:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hello,

Here is some additional information on creating footers.  I am using Word
2013 but I don't think the steps vary much from 2016.

Instead of using the dialog box you might want to use the options in the
header and footer group of the insert menu and under the design tab which is
added as a tab to the right end of the ribbon after a footer is chosen.  To
enter a built-in footer you can use CTRL with right arrow key across the
lower part of the ribbon under the insert tab until you get to the header
and footer group.  Using Word 2013, this is done seven times.  Tab to the
footer menu item and press enter.  Alternatively, use Alt followed by N
followed by O.  The first item is a blank footer and the second built-in
footer type is a footer with three areas.  If you pick the second one you
can enter the footer text in the first area and the page number in the third
and use different alignment for the text and page number if you want.  If
you choose the first built-in footer type you can type the text using
nonbreaking spaces between all the words (CTRL+Shift+Spacebar) and then
leave a space before entering the page number.  Immediately after inserting
the page number use CTRL with J followed by shift key and enter.  This will
cause the text to be left aligned and the page number to be right aligned.
If you want to insert a page number using a page field use Alt with Shift
and P.  Otherwise, you can insert it from the page numbers item under the
design tab of the ribbon.  You will find the “Link to previous”, “different
first page” and other often used options under the design tab.  It is a good
idea to use section breaks and then insert the blank footer for the new
section, uncheck the “link to previous” checkbox under the design tab of the
header and footer tools which is added to the right end of the ribbon as a
contextual tab, and then type the footer information.  To insert a Next page
section break press Alt followed by P followed by B followed by N.  Go To
Footer is a command that can be added to the quick access toolbar or to a
customized ribbon group, which might be helpful if you are frequently
working with footers.  Remember that using Alt with delete will let you know
the vertical position of the cursor so you can verify you are working in a
footer area.  The escape key should move focus from the footer area back
into the main document pane.

Take care.

   Brian Lee
brianl...@charter.net

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jason White
Sent: November 24, 2016 9:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

I'm trying to test this with JAWS 18, Windows 10 and Word 2016.

I can edit a footer by typing Alt+N, O, E. Alternatively, I can work my way
through the Insert tab of the ribbon to find this command (Insert ->
Footer -> Edit Footer).

At this point (having invoked the above command), I'm in a footer field into
which I can type text or edit existing text. While editing the footer, there
are commands in the ribbon to insert the time and date, document
information, etc.

JAWS is reading everything as expected.

Are your steps different from mine? If not, this might have been fixed in
JAWS
18 or in a Microsoft Word update. I'm running Word 2016 Pro Plus as
downloaded from Office365, so it's always kept up to date.

Jean Menzies <jemenz...@shaw.ca> wrote:

I’m using Word 2016 and Jaws 17.0.2619.

I want to create documents with page footers. Each page needs its own 
unique footer. I know how to get to the footer dialogue, but Jaws doesn’t 
read any of the text in the dialogue as I type or as it appears. Outside 
of the dialogue, I can use inser

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

[Jean Menzies]

Hi Brian,

Excellent description, and I know that's how it should work. But no matter 
what I do, I can't read any of the text I'm entering, have entered, or am 
wanting to edit. Insert-F tells me the footer style text is black on black. 
That shouldn't matter, I don't think.


I didn't import any old Jaws settings when I upgraded to version 18. I just 
can't find why this isn't working. I also don't see the choices to unlink 
from previous sections with section breaks, etc.


Very strange.

Jean

-Original Message- 
From: Brian Lee

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 10:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hello,

Here is some additional information on creating footers.  I am using Word 
2013 but I don't think the steps vary much from 2016.


Instead of using the dialog box you might want to use the options in the 
header and footer group of the insert menu and under the design tab which is 
added as a tab to the right end of the ribbon after a footer is chosen.  To 
enter a built-in footer you can use CTRL with right arrow key across the 
lower part of the ribbon under the insert tab until you get to the header 
and footer group.  Using Word 2013, this is done seven times.  Tab to the 
footer menu item and press enter.  Alternatively, use Alt followed by N 
followed by O.  The first item is a blank footer and the second built-in 
footer type is a footer with three areas.  If you pick the second one you 
can enter the footer text in the first area and the page number in the third 
and use different alignment for the text and page number if you want.  If 
you choose the first built-in footer type you can type the text using 
nonbreaking spaces between all the words (CTRL+Shift+Spacebar) and then 
leave a space before entering the page number.  Immediately after inserting 
the page number use CTRL with J followed by shift key and enter.  This will 
cause the text to be left aligned and the page number to be right aligned. 
If you want to insert a page number using a page field use Alt with Shift 
and P.  Otherwise, you can insert it from the page numbers item under the 
design tab of the ribbon.  You will find the “Link to previous”, “different 
first page” and other often used options under the design tab.  It is a good 
idea to use section breaks and then insert the blank footer for the new 
section, uncheck the “link to previous” checkbox under the design tab of the 
header and footer tools which is added to the right end of the ribbon as a 
contextual tab, and then type the footer information.  To insert a Next page 
section break press Alt followed by P followed by B followed by N.  Go To 
Footer is a command that can be added to the quick access toolbar or to a 
customized ribbon group, which might be helpful if you are frequently 
working with footers.  Remember that using Alt with delete will let you know 
the vertical position of the cursor so you can verify you are working in a 
footer area.  The escape key should move focus from the footer area back 
into the main document pane.


Take care.

   Brian Lee
brianl...@charter.net

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Jason White

Sent: November 24, 2016 9:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

I'm trying to test this with JAWS 18, Windows 10 and Word 2016.

I can edit a footer by typing Alt+N, O, E. Alternatively, I can work my way 
through the Insert tab of the ribbon to find this command (Insert -> 
Footer -> Edit Footer).


At this point (having invoked the above command), I'm in a footer field into 
which I can type text or edit existing text. While editing the footer, there 
are commands in the ribbon to insert the time and date, document 
information, etc.


JAWS is reading everything as expected.

Are your steps different from mine? If not, this might have been fixed in 
JAWS
18 or in a Microsoft Word update. I'm running Word 2016 Pro Plus as 
downloaded from Office365, so it's always kept up to date.


Jean Menzies <jemenz...@shaw.ca> wrote:

I’m using Word 2016 and Jaws 17.0.2619.

I want to create documents with page footers. Each page needs its own 
unique footer. I know how to get to the footer dialogue, but Jaws doesn’t 
read any of the text in the dialogue as I type or as it appears. Outside 
of the dialogue, I can use insert F1 to hear document info, but this is a 
tedious way to check footers, and doesn’t allow for editing, etc.


Is there a solution for this? It used to work in previous versions of Word 
and Jaws.


Jean
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

[Jean Menzies]

Hi Jason,

I have now upgraded to Jaws 18, but I am not getting the results you get. I 
can get to the footer area in both ways as you describe. Once in the footer 
edit area, text is not spoken as I type, and nothing is readable in the 
field.


Then if I exit the footer dialogue and use insert-F1, I know that footer 
text was entered. Going back in to edit, I again cannot hear anything in 
terms of what the footer text is.


I also can't seem to find ribbon controls for adding date, time, etc.

On this same topic, can you go under Layout and insert a section break and 
see if you can unlink it from other document sections? I can't identify the 
button to do that either.


The good thing is that you can do this. I just have to figure out why I 
can't.


I'm using Office 365, if that might be different.

Jean

-Original Message- 
From: Jason White

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 9:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

I'm trying to test this with JAWS 18, Windows 10 and Word 2016.

I can edit a footer by typing Alt+N, O, E. Alternatively, I can work my way
through the Insert tab of the ribbon to find this command (Insert -> 
Footer ->

Edit Footer).

At this point (having invoked the above command), I'm in a footer field into
which I can type text or edit existing text. While editing the footer, there
are commands in the ribbon to insert the time and date, document 
information,

etc.

JAWS is reading everything as expected.

Are your steps different from mine? If not, this might have been fixed in 
JAWS
18 or in a Microsoft Word update. I'm running Word 2016 Pro Plus as 
downloaded

from Office365, so it's always kept up to date.

Jean Menzies <jemenz...@shaw.ca> wrote:

I’m using Word 2016 and Jaws 17.0.2619.

I want to create documents with page footers. Each page needs its own 
unique footer. I know how to get to the footer dialogue, but Jaws doesn’t 
read any of the text in the dialogue as I type or as it appears. Outside 
of the dialogue, I can use insert F1 to hear document info, but this is a 
tedious way to check footers, and doesn’t allow for editing, etc.


Is there a solution for this? It used to work in previous versions of Word 
and Jaws.


Jean
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

[Brian Lee]

Hello,

Here is some additional information on creating footers.  I am using Word 2013 
but I don't think the steps vary much from 2016.  

Instead of using the dialog box you might want to use the options in the header 
and footer group of the insert menu and under the design tab which is added as 
a tab to the right end of the ribbon after a footer is chosen.  To enter a 
built-in footer you can use CTRL with right arrow key across the lower part of 
the ribbon under the insert tab until you get to the header and footer group.  
Using Word 2013, this is done seven times.  Tab to the footer menu item and 
press enter.  Alternatively, use Alt followed by N followed by O.  The first 
item is a blank footer and the second built-in footer type is a footer with 
three areas.  If you pick the second one you can enter the footer text in the 
first area and the page number in the third and use different alignment for the 
text and page number if you want.  If you choose the first built-in footer type 
you can type the text using nonbreaking spaces between all the words 
(CTRL+Shift+Spacebar) and then leave a space before entering the page number.  
Immediately after inserting the page number use CTRL with J followed by shift 
key and enter.  This will cause the text to be left aligned and the page number 
to be right aligned.  If you want to insert a page number using a page field 
use Alt with Shift and P.  Otherwise, you can insert it from the page numbers 
item under the design tab of the ribbon.  You will find the “Link to previous”, 
“different first page” and other often used options under the design tab.  It 
is a good idea to use section breaks and then insert the blank footer for the 
new section, uncheck the “link to previous” checkbox under the design tab of 
the header and footer tools which is added to the right end of the ribbon as a 
contextual tab, and then type the footer information.  To insert a Next page 
section break press Alt followed by P followed by B followed by N.  Go To 
Footer is a command that can be added to the quick access toolbar or to a 
customized ribbon group, which might be helpful if you are frequently working 
with footers.  Remember that using Alt with delete will let you know the 
vertical position of the cursor so you can verify you are working in a footer 
area.  The escape key should move focus from the footer area back into the main 
document pane.

Take care.

Brian Lee
brianl...@charter.net

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jason White
Sent: November 24, 2016 9:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

I'm trying to test this with JAWS 18, Windows 10 and Word 2016.

I can edit a footer by typing Alt+N, O, E. Alternatively, I can work my way 
through the Insert tab of the ribbon to find this command (Insert -> Footer -> 
Edit Footer).

At this point (having invoked the above command), I'm in a footer field into 
which I can type text or edit existing text. While editing the footer, there 
are commands in the ribbon to insert the time and date, document information, 
etc.

JAWS is reading everything as expected.

Are your steps different from mine? If not, this might have been fixed in JAWS
18 or in a Microsoft Word update. I'm running Word 2016 Pro Plus as downloaded 
from Office365, so it's always kept up to date.

Jean Menzies <jemenz...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> I’m using Word 2016 and Jaws 17.0.2619. 
> 
> I want to create documents with page footers. Each page needs its own unique 
> footer. I know how to get to the footer dialogue, but Jaws doesn’t read any 
> of the text in the dialogue as I type or as it appears. Outside of the 
> dialogue, I can use insert F1 to hear document info, but this is a tedious 
> way to check footers, and doesn’t allow for editing, etc. 
> 
> Is there a solution for this? It used to work in previous versions of Word 
> and Jaws. 
> 
> Jean
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

[Jason White]

I'm trying to test this with JAWS 18, Windows 10 and Word 2016.

I can edit a footer by typing Alt+N, O, E. Alternatively, I can work my way
through the Insert tab of the ribbon to find this command (Insert -> Footer ->
Edit Footer).

At this point (having invoked the above command), I'm in a footer field into
which I can type text or edit existing text. While editing the footer, there
are commands in the ribbon to insert the time and date, document information,
etc.

JAWS is reading everything as expected.

Are your steps different from mine? If not, this might have been fixed in JAWS
18 or in a Microsoft Word update. I'm running Word 2016 Pro Plus as downloaded
from Office365, so it's always kept up to date.

Jean Menzies  wrote:
> I’m using Word 2016 and Jaws 17.0.2619. 
> 
> I want to create documents with page footers. Each page needs its own unique 
> footer. I know how to get to the footer dialogue, but Jaws doesn’t read any 
> of the text in the dialogue as I type or as it appears. Outside of the 
> dialogue, I can use insert F1 to hear document info, but this is a tedious 
> way to check footers, and doesn’t allow for editing, etc. 
> 
> Is there a solution for this? It used to work in previous versions of Word 
> and Jaws. 
> 
> Jean
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

[Adrian Spratt]

Jean, for the record, I don't mean to suggest there's any fault involved in 
keeping up-to-date with applications. Your points are well taken. I'd pursue 
this philosophical quandary for people with disabilities further, but it 
wouldn't be helpful in solving JAWS problems.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jean Menzies
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 6:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hi Justin.

I already said which version of Jaws I have. Version 17. I can only go back to 
16 because of Windows 10. I don't know for sure which version last worked for 
this kind of project. I know I did do this before. It might have been back with 
Word 2003, as I went from Word 2003 to 2013, and am now on 2016.

I don't apologize for keeping up with technology. I just question why so much 
support gets lost along the way of supposedly sound Jaws releases. Some of us 
do try and work beyond the basic word processing level.

But, I won't continue with this rant, because I know it will go no where, and 
might be considered by some as my own fault for upgrading. Or, it might be seen 
as criticizing the goose that laid the golden egg.

I think I'm almost ready to switch to beef or something. lol.

Jean



-Original Message-
From: Justin Williams
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 2:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

What version of JAWS do you have?  And, what version were you last able to do 
everything you wanted to do?
Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 5:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Jean,

In fairness, didn't you say you used to be able to handle footers in previous 
versions of Word? So maybe it isn't so much that JAWS went backwards, but that 
it hasn't kept up with Office 2016. Also, you indicated you're using JAWS 17. 
Maybe 18 has caught up.

Of course, having to keep up-to-date with JAWS via SMA is an added biennial 
expense, but I find that FS makes improvements beyond those it publicizes, 
perhaps because as it fixes one way of interacting with applications and the 
Internet, other nagging problems go away.

Still, JAWS is far from perfect, and it's maddening when what worked in one 
version of JAWS or in a program it used to support suddenly doesn't. this is 
why those of us who keep up with JAWS but don't go out and buy the latest 
version of every other application can get annoyingly smug.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jean Menzies
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 4:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hi Adrian,

Thanks for the idea. However, I have changed my plan for this project because 
the workarounds I have are just too prone too error. I wanted to compile 
recipes with each section being a new recipe. Then, have a footer for each 
recipe, plus, if the recipe went to more than one page, a continuation footer 
for that recipe. Page numbers continuous. Plus a front section of Roman page 
numbers with a generated table of contents.

Honestly, I find so much that Jaws isn't reading in the various dialogues to do 
this. I am struggling with section breaks, page numbering, and especially the 
footers. So many steps backward in accessibility in my humble opinion.
And I'm supposed to pay for a Jaws upgrade SMA now. Just wondering why. How 
many more things can they screw up or not keep up with? It always seems that 
once past the basics, accessibility is somewhat lacking.

Sorry everyone for the vent, but I hate dumbing something down just to make it 
work. I used to be able to do all of this with no problem. Now, not so much.

Jean

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hi, Jean.

I notice that no MS Word 2016 user has responded. As a 2010 user, where I know 
footers worked fine for you, I can offer only the suggestion that you type the 
text you want to appear in the footer in a separate document and paste it into 
the footer field. Hardly elegant, but it might be a workaround.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jean Menzies
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 4:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

I’m using Word 2016 and Jaws 17.0.2619.

I want to create documents with page footers. Each page needs its own unique 
footer. I know how to get to the footer dialogue, but Jaws doesn’t read any

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

[Jean Menzies]

Hi Justin.

I already said which version of Jaws I have. Version 17. I can only go back 
to 16 because of Windows 10. I don't know for sure which version last worked 
for this kind of project. I know I did do this before. It might have been 
back with Word 2003, as I went from Word 2003 to 2013, and am now on 2016.


I don't apologize for keeping up with technology. I just question why so 
much support gets lost along the way of supposedly sound Jaws releases. Some 
of us do try and work beyond the basic word processing level.


But, I won't continue with this rant, because I know it will go no where, 
and might be considered by some as my own fault for upgrading. Or, it might 
be seen as criticizing the goose that laid the golden egg.


I think I'm almost ready to switch to beef or something. lol.

Jean



-Original Message- 
From: Justin Williams

Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 2:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

What version of JAWS do you have?  And, what version were you last able to 
do everything you wanted to do?

Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt

Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 5:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Jean,

In fairness, didn't you say you used to be able to handle footers in 
previous versions of Word? So maybe it isn't so much that JAWS went 
backwards, but that it hasn't kept up with Office 2016. Also, you indicated 
you're using JAWS 17. Maybe 18 has caught up.


Of course, having to keep up-to-date with JAWS via SMA is an added biennial 
expense, but I find that FS makes improvements beyond those it publicizes, 
perhaps because as it fixes one way of interacting with applications and the 
Internet, other nagging problems go away.


Still, JAWS is far from perfect, and it's maddening when what worked in one 
version of JAWS or in a program it used to support suddenly doesn't. this is 
why those of us who keep up with JAWS but don't go out and buy the latest 
version of every other application can get annoyingly smug.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Jean Menzies

Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 4:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hi Adrian,

Thanks for the idea. However, I have changed my plan for this project 
because the workarounds I have are just too prone too error. I wanted to 
compile recipes with each section being a new recipe. Then, have a footer 
for each recipe, plus, if the recipe went to more than one page, a 
continuation footer for that recipe. Page numbers continuous. Plus a front 
section of Roman page numbers with a generated table of contents.


Honestly, I find so much that Jaws isn't reading in the various dialogues to 
do this. I am struggling with section breaks, page numbering, and especially 
the footers. So many steps backward in accessibility in my humble opinion.
And I'm supposed to pay for a Jaws upgrade SMA now. Just wondering why. How 
many more things can they screw up or not keep up with? It always seems that 
once past the basics, accessibility is somewhat lacking.


Sorry everyone for the vent, but I hate dumbing something down just to make 
it work. I used to be able to do all of this with no problem. Now, not so 
much.


Jean

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hi, Jean.

I notice that no MS Word 2016 user has responded. As a 2010 user, where I 
know footers worked fine for you, I can offer only the suggestion that you 
type the text you want to appear in the footer in a separate document and 
paste it into the footer field. Hardly elegant, but it might be a 
workaround.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Jean Menzies

Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 4:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

I’m using Word 2016 and Jaws 17.0.2619.

I want to create documents with page footers. Each page needs its own unique 
footer. I know how to get to the footer dialogue, but Jaws doesn’t read any 
of the text in the dialogue as I type or as it appears. Outside of the 
dialogue, I can use insert F1 to hear document info, but this is a tedious 
way to check footers, and doesn’t allow for editing, etc.


Is there a solution for this? It used to work in previous versions of Word 
and Jaws.


Jean
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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

[Jean Menzies]

Ah,  but not keeping up is the same as going backwards. At least that's how 
I see it. Why should we be relegated to the end of the line for modern 
software that has been out for quite some time and that other piers are 
using just to say we have something accessible? It makes me wonder why they 
continually release product without ensuring it has at least the 
functionality as its predecessor. I still hold by my comment that as long as 
they account for that lowest common ddenominator, that it's often viewed as 
good enough to go out the door.


Thank goodness I'm not actually relying on this functionality for 
employment.



-Original Message- 
From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 1:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Jean,

In fairness, didn't you say you used to be able to handle footers in 
previous versions of Word? So maybe it isn't so much that JAWS went 
backwards, but that it hasn't kept up with Office 2016. Also, you indicated 
you're using JAWS 17. Maybe 18 has caught up.


Of course, having to keep up-to-date with JAWS via SMA is an added biennial 
expense, but I find that FS makes improvements beyond those it publicizes, 
perhaps because as it fixes one way of interacting with applications and the 
Internet, other nagging problems go away.


Still, JAWS is far from perfect, and it's maddening when what worked in one 
version of JAWS or in a program it used to support suddenly doesn't. this is 
why those of us who keep up with JAWS but don't go out and buy the latest 
version of every other application can get annoyingly smug.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Jean Menzies

Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 4:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hi Adrian,

Thanks for the idea. However, I have changed my plan for this project 
because the workarounds I have are just too prone too error. I wanted to 
compile recipes with each section being a new recipe. Then, have a footer 
for each recipe, plus, if the recipe went to more than one page, a 
continuation footer for that recipe. Page numbers continuous. Plus a front 
section of Roman page numbers with a generated table of contents.


Honestly, I find so much that Jaws isn't reading in the various dialogues to 
do this. I am struggling with section breaks, page numbering, and especially 
the footers. So many steps backward in accessibility in my humble opinion.
And I'm supposed to pay for a Jaws upgrade SMA now. Just wondering why. How 
many more things can they screw up or not keep up with? It always seems that 
once past the basics, accessibility is somewhat lacking.


Sorry everyone for the vent, but I hate dumbing something down just to make 
it work. I used to be able to do all of this with no problem. Now, not so 
much.


Jean

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hi, Jean.

I notice that no MS Word 2016 user has responded. As a 2010 user, where I 
know footers worked fine for you, I can offer only the suggestion that you 
type the text you want to appear in the footer in a separate document and 
paste it into the footer field. Hardly elegant, but it might be a 
workaround.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Jean Menzies

Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 4:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

I’m using Word 2016 and Jaws 17.0.2619.

I want to create documents with page footers. Each page needs its own unique 
footer. I know how to get to the footer dialogue, but Jaws doesn’t read any 
of the text in the dialogue as I type or as it appears. Outside of the 
dialogue, I can use insert F1 to hear document info, but this is a tedious 
way to check footers, and doesn’t allow for editing, etc.


Is there a solution for this? It used to work in previous versions of Word 
and Jaws.


Jean
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

[Justin Williams]

Okay, I found my answer; you are on 17.
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Kurt Miller
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 4:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Jean,
I understand you completely. I had to go back to 16 to use Excel correctly for 
my work. So much for job access,huh. Once you get a monopoly, you get what they 
want.
Kurt

After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient as 
rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jean Menzies
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 4:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hi Adrian,

Thanks for the idea. However, I have changed my plan for this project because 
the workarounds I have are just too prone too error. I wanted to compile 
recipes with each section being a new recipe. Then, have a footer for each 
recipe, plus, if the recipe went to more than one page, a continuation footer 
for that recipe. Page numbers continuous. Plus a front section of Roman page 
numbers with a generated table of contents.

Honestly, I find so much that Jaws isn't reading in the various dialogues to do 
this. I am struggling with section breaks, page numbering, and especially the 
footers. So many steps backward in accessibility in my humble opinion. 
And I'm supposed to pay for a Jaws upgrade SMA now. Just wondering why. How 
many more things can they screw up or not keep up with? It always seems that 
once past the basics, accessibility is somewhat lacking.

Sorry everyone for the vent, but I hate dumbing something down just to make it 
work. I used to be able to do all of this with no problem. Now, not so much.

Jean

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hi, Jean.

I notice that no MS Word 2016 user has responded. As a 2010 user, where I know 
footers worked fine for you, I can offer only the suggestion that you type the 
text you want to appear in the footer in a separate document and paste it into 
the footer field. Hardly elegant, but it might be a workaround.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jean Menzies
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 4:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

I’m using Word 2016 and Jaws 17.0.2619.

I want to create documents with page footers. Each page needs its own unique 
footer. I know how to get to the footer dialogue, but Jaws doesn’t read any of 
the text in the dialogue as I type or as it appears. Outside of the dialogue, I 
can use insert F1 to hear document info, but this is a tedious way to check 
footers, and doesn’t allow for editing, etc.

Is there a solution for this? It used to work in previous versions of Word and 
Jaws.

Jean
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

[Justin Williams]

What version of JAWS do you have?  And, what version were you last able to do 
everything you wanted to do?
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 5:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Jean,

In fairness, didn't you say you used to be able to handle footers in previous 
versions of Word? So maybe it isn't so much that JAWS went backwards, but that 
it hasn't kept up with Office 2016. Also, you indicated you're using JAWS 17. 
Maybe 18 has caught up. 

Of course, having to keep up-to-date with JAWS via SMA is an added biennial 
expense, but I find that FS makes improvements beyond those it publicizes, 
perhaps because as it fixes one way of interacting with applications and the 
Internet, other nagging problems go away. 

Still, JAWS is far from perfect, and it's maddening when what worked in one 
version of JAWS or in a program it used to support suddenly doesn't. this is 
why those of us who keep up with JAWS but don't go out and buy the latest 
version of every other application can get annoyingly smug.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jean Menzies
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 4:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hi Adrian,

Thanks for the idea. However, I have changed my plan for this project because 
the workarounds I have are just too prone too error. I wanted to compile 
recipes with each section being a new recipe. Then, have a footer for each 
recipe, plus, if the recipe went to more than one page, a continuation footer 
for that recipe. Page numbers continuous. Plus a front section of Roman page 
numbers with a generated table of contents.

Honestly, I find so much that Jaws isn't reading in the various dialogues to do 
this. I am struggling with section breaks, page numbering, and especially the 
footers. So many steps backward in accessibility in my humble opinion. 
And I'm supposed to pay for a Jaws upgrade SMA now. Just wondering why. How 
many more things can they screw up or not keep up with? It always seems that 
once past the basics, accessibility is somewhat lacking.

Sorry everyone for the vent, but I hate dumbing something down just to make it 
work. I used to be able to do all of this with no problem. Now, not so much.

Jean

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hi, Jean.

I notice that no MS Word 2016 user has responded. As a 2010 user, where I know 
footers worked fine for you, I can offer only the suggestion that you type the 
text you want to appear in the footer in a separate document and paste it into 
the footer field. Hardly elegant, but it might be a workaround.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jean Menzies
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 4:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

I’m using Word 2016 and Jaws 17.0.2619.

I want to create documents with page footers. Each page needs its own unique 
footer. I know how to get to the footer dialogue, but Jaws doesn’t read any of 
the text in the dialogue as I type or as it appears. Outside of the dialogue, I 
can use insert F1 to hear document info, but this is a tedious way to check 
footers, and doesn’t allow for editing, etc.

Is there a solution for this? It used to work in previous versions of Word and 
Jaws.

Jean
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

[Adrian Spratt]

Jean,

In fairness, didn't you say you used to be able to handle footers in previous 
versions of Word? So maybe it isn't so much that JAWS went backwards, but that 
it hasn't kept up with Office 2016. Also, you indicated you're using JAWS 17. 
Maybe 18 has caught up. 

Of course, having to keep up-to-date with JAWS via SMA is an added biennial 
expense, but I find that FS makes improvements beyond those it publicizes, 
perhaps because as it fixes one way of interacting with applications and the 
Internet, other nagging problems go away. 

Still, JAWS is far from perfect, and it's maddening when what worked in one 
version of JAWS or in a program it used to support suddenly doesn't. this is 
why those of us who keep up with JAWS but don't go out and buy the latest 
version of every other application can get annoyingly smug.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jean Menzies
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 4:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hi Adrian,

Thanks for the idea. However, I have changed my plan for this project because 
the workarounds I have are just too prone too error. I wanted to compile 
recipes with each section being a new recipe. Then, have a footer for each 
recipe, plus, if the recipe went to more than one page, a continuation footer 
for that recipe. Page numbers continuous. Plus a front section of Roman page 
numbers with a generated table of contents.

Honestly, I find so much that Jaws isn't reading in the various dialogues to do 
this. I am struggling with section breaks, page numbering, and especially the 
footers. So many steps backward in accessibility in my humble opinion. 
And I'm supposed to pay for a Jaws upgrade SMA now. Just wondering why. How 
many more things can they screw up or not keep up with? It always seems that 
once past the basics, accessibility is somewhat lacking.

Sorry everyone for the vent, but I hate dumbing something down just to make it 
work. I used to be able to do all of this with no problem. Now, not so much.

Jean

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hi, Jean.

I notice that no MS Word 2016 user has responded. As a 2010 user, where I know 
footers worked fine for you, I can offer only the suggestion that you type the 
text you want to appear in the footer in a separate document and paste it into 
the footer field. Hardly elegant, but it might be a workaround.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jean Menzies
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 4:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

I’m using Word 2016 and Jaws 17.0.2619.

I want to create documents with page footers. Each page needs its own unique 
footer. I know how to get to the footer dialogue, but Jaws doesn’t read any of 
the text in the dialogue as I type or as it appears. Outside of the dialogue, I 
can use insert F1 to hear document info, but this is a tedious way to check 
footers, and doesn’t allow for editing, etc.

Is there a solution for this? It used to work in previous versions of Word and 
Jaws.

Jean
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

[Jean Menzies]

I tried Jaws 16 as well, but I had the same problems. I'm using Windows 10, 
so I can't go to anything less than 16 for Jaws. Feeling very frustrated, as 
I know how to make this a nice visual document, but I can't get it done with 
reliable accuracy. Makes me look like the one with less than par word 
processing skills. And, for the record, NVDA doesn't handle this well 
either. So much for job access.


Jean

-Original Message- 
From: Kurt Miller

Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 1:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Jean,
I understand you completely. I had to go back to 16 to use Excel correctly 
for my work. So much for job access,huh. Once you get a monopoly, you get 
what they want.

Kurt

After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient 
as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Jean Menzies

Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 4:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hi Adrian,

Thanks for the idea. However, I have changed my plan for this project 
because the workarounds I have are just too prone too error. I wanted to 
compile recipes with each section being a new recipe. Then, have a footer 
for each recipe, plus, if the recipe went to more than one page, a 
continuation footer for that recipe. Page numbers continuous. Plus a front 
section of Roman page numbers with a generated table of contents.


Honestly, I find so much that Jaws isn't reading in the various dialogues to 
do this. I am struggling with section breaks, page numbering, and especially 
the footers. So many steps backward in accessibility in my humble opinion.
And I'm supposed to pay for a Jaws upgrade SMA now. Just wondering why. How 
many more things can they screw up or not keep up with? It always seems that 
once past the basics, accessibility is somewhat lacking.


Sorry everyone for the vent, but I hate dumbing something down just to make 
it work. I used to be able to do all of this with no problem. Now, not so 
much.


Jean

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hi, Jean.

I notice that no MS Word 2016 user has responded. As a 2010 user, where I 
know footers worked fine for you, I can offer only the suggestion that you 
type the text you want to appear in the footer in a separate document and 
paste it into the footer field. Hardly elegant, but it might be a 
workaround.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Jean Menzies

Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 4:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

I’m using Word 2016 and Jaws 17.0.2619.

I want to create documents with page footers. Each page needs its own unique 
footer. I know how to get to the footer dialogue, but Jaws doesn’t read any 
of the text in the dialogue as I type or as it appears. Outside of the 
dialogue, I can use insert F1 to hear document info, but this is a tedious 
way to check footers, and doesn’t allow for editing, etc.


Is there a solution for this? It used to work in previous versions of Word 
and Jaws.


Jean
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

[Kurt Miller]

Jean,
I understand you completely. I had to go back to 16 to use Excel correctly for 
my work. So much for job access,huh. Once you get a monopoly, you get what they 
want.
Kurt

After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient as 
rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jean Menzies
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 4:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hi Adrian,

Thanks for the idea. However, I have changed my plan for this project because 
the workarounds I have are just too prone too error. I wanted to compile 
recipes with each section being a new recipe. Then, have a footer for each 
recipe, plus, if the recipe went to more than one page, a continuation footer 
for that recipe. Page numbers continuous. Plus a front section of Roman page 
numbers with a generated table of contents.

Honestly, I find so much that Jaws isn't reading in the various dialogues to do 
this. I am struggling with section breaks, page numbering, and especially the 
footers. So many steps backward in accessibility in my humble opinion. 
And I'm supposed to pay for a Jaws upgrade SMA now. Just wondering why. How 
many more things can they screw up or not keep up with? It always seems that 
once past the basics, accessibility is somewhat lacking.

Sorry everyone for the vent, but I hate dumbing something down just to make it 
work. I used to be able to do all of this with no problem. Now, not so much.

Jean

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hi, Jean.

I notice that no MS Word 2016 user has responded. As a 2010 user, where I know 
footers worked fine for you, I can offer only the suggestion that you type the 
text you want to appear in the footer in a separate document and paste it into 
the footer field. Hardly elegant, but it might be a workaround.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jean Menzies
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 4:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

I’m using Word 2016 and Jaws 17.0.2619.

I want to create documents with page footers. Each page needs its own unique 
footer. I know how to get to the footer dialogue, but Jaws doesn’t read any of 
the text in the dialogue as I type or as it appears. Outside of the dialogue, I 
can use insert F1 to hear document info, but this is a tedious way to check 
footers, and doesn’t allow for editing, etc.

Is there a solution for this? It used to work in previous versions of Word and 
Jaws.

Jean
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

[Jean Menzies]

Hi Adrian,

Thanks for the idea. However, I have changed my plan for this project 
because the workarounds I have are just too prone too error. I wanted to 
compile recipes with each section being a new recipe. Then, have a footer 
for each recipe, plus, if the recipe went to more than one page, a 
continuation footer for that recipe. Page numbers continuous. Plus a front 
section of Roman page numbers with a generated table of contents.


Honestly, I find so much that Jaws isn't reading in the various dialogues to 
do this. I am struggling with section breaks, page numbering, and especially 
the footers. So many steps backward in accessibility in my humble opinion. 
And I'm supposed to pay for a Jaws upgrade SMA now. Just wondering why. How 
many more things can they screw up or not keep up with? It always seems that 
once past the basics, accessibility is somewhat lacking.


Sorry everyone for the vent, but I hate dumbing something down just to make 
it work. I used to be able to do all of this with no problem. Now, not so 
much.


Jean

-Original Message- 
From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hi, Jean.

I notice that no MS Word 2016 user has responded. As a 2010 user, where I 
know footers worked fine for you, I can offer only the suggestion that you 
type the text you want to appear in the footer in a separate document and 
paste it into the footer field. Hardly elegant, but it might be a 
workaround.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Jean Menzies

Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 4:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

I’m using Word 2016 and Jaws 17.0.2619.

I want to create documents with page footers. Each page needs its own unique 
footer. I know how to get to the footer dialogue, but Jaws doesn’t read any 
of the text in the dialogue as I type or as it appears. Outside of the 
dialogue, I can use insert F1 to hear document info, but this is a tedious 
way to check footers, and doesn’t allow for editing, etc.


Is there a solution for this? It used to work in previous versions of Word 
and Jaws.


Jean
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

[Adrian Spratt]

Hi, Jean.

I notice that no MS Word 2016 user has responded. As a 2010 user, where I know 
footers worked fine for you, I can offer only the suggestion that you type the 
text you want to appear in the footer in a separate document and paste it into 
the footer field. Hardly elegant, but it might be a workaround. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jean Menzies
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 4:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

I’m using Word 2016 and Jaws 17.0.2619. 

I want to create documents with page footers. Each page needs its own unique 
footer. I know how to get to the footer dialogue, but Jaws doesn’t read any of 
the text in the dialogue as I type or as it appears. Outside of the dialogue, I 
can use insert F1 to hear document info, but this is a tedious way to check 
footers, and doesn’t allow for editing, etc. 

Is there a solution for this? It used to work in previous versions of Word and 
Jaws. 

Jean
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

[Joey Lamperis]

You may want to repair jaws I don't know

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 20, 2016, at 3:09 PM, Jean Menzies  wrote:
> 
> I’m using Word 2016 and Jaws 17.0.2619. 
> 
> I want to create documents with page footers. Each page needs its own unique 
> footer. I know how to get to the footer dialogue, but Jaws doesn’t read any 
> of the text in the dialogue as I type or as it appears. Outside of the 
> dialogue, I can use insert F1 to hear document info, but this is a tedious 
> way to check footers, and doesn’t allow for editing, etc. 
> 
> Is there a solution for this? It used to work in previous versions of Word 
> and Jaws. 
> 
> Jean
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[JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 Upload TechAssist

[dooie]

Hello,

I just got a new copy of JAWS 17 and got somewhat of a surprise, 
as the 20 character authorisation code, had No Number signs or 
spaces for Letters; so, I had to contact the local Veteran Blind 
Orientation Specialist, who issued that copy, to get that correct 
Authorisation code.


Once the Authorisation code was received; I had to Dymo label 
that code, on the JAWS 17 CD package, as what I had received from 
Freedom Scientific, was so poorly Braille labelled.


Now, the next predicament that was encountered.

I have a Gateway desktop CPU, with Windows7, with JAWS 14; and I 
inserted the JAWS 17 Program disc, yet I had forgot that a 
Comcast rep had changed the POP 3 setting to IMAP, without 
changing the advanced numeric settings; consequently, I can't 
access the Internet, to get Authorisation for the JAWS 17 
program.


Question 1; at the start menu; how do I gain access to where the 
POP 3 / IMAP Email/Internet setting are located on the Gateway 
CPU; so I can put the POP 3 setting back; so I can upload the new 
JAWS 17 version.


Question 2; Should I consider using the IMAP setting; and if so; 
what are the correct numeric settings?


The reason I had a Comcast rep come out; was that Emails I was 
receiving from Comcast, concerning their X-infinity new Talking 
TV Remote; and when I would download emails from them; to a 
Humanware Apex, I was receiving unreadable/unaudible Emails, as 
if it was in nothing but, characters and foreign lingo garbage.


Topic 2.

I am trying to locate a audio text format copy of David Pogue's 
book, titled; Windows10 The Missing Manual.  I got the NLS / 
Talking Books Library's, audio book; yet I am after a E-text 
format copy of this book.  I won't try listening to the audio 
book, and transcribing into a Braille format; nor will I get a 
text copy of the book to scan it, to get the wanted CPU text 
version, for easy access.


Any and All assistance, would be Valuably Appreciated.

Sincerely,

DJ Meyrick
100% Blind USN Vet
Portland, Oregon

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 telling me the exact position of a character in Word 2007

[Michele Thredgold]

Is this the same with Word 2010?

Thanks

Michele

- Original Message -
From: John R Vaughn  <jrvaugh...@comcast.net>
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date: Sunday, 11 September 2016 10:08 am
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 telling me the exact position of a character 
in Word 2007

>
>
> Bill, insert plus delete.
> John
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Bill Tipton (ML)
> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 8:26 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 telling me the exact position of a character
> in Word 2007
> 
> Hello,
> How can I get JAWS 17 to tell me the exact position of a character within a
> Word 2007document?
> Example I have a document somebody else created with many tabs, sometimes
> multiple tabs in a row.  When I edit the document I want to make sure the
> sentences/ words still align correctly. 
> Thank you.
> Bill
> 
> 
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 telling me the exact position of a character in Word 2007

[Adrian Spratt]

Two ways. If you want the answer in terms of inches, press alt+delete. For the 
answer in terms of line and column, JAWS key+delete. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Bill Tipton (ML)
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 8:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 telling me the exact position of a character in 
Word 2007

Hello,
How can I get JAWS 17 to tell me the exact position of a character within a 
Word 2007document?
Example I have a document somebody else created with many tabs, sometimes 
multiple tabs in a row.  When I edit the document I want to make sure the 
sentences/ words still align correctly. 
Thank you.
Bill


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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 telling me the exact position of a character in Word 2007

[John R Vaughn]

Bill, insert plus delete.
John

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Behalf Of Bill Tipton (ML)
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 8:26 PM
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 telling me the exact position of a character
in Word 2007

Hello,
How can I get JAWS 17 to tell me the exact position of a character within a
Word 2007document?
Example I have a document somebody else created with many tabs, sometimes
multiple tabs in a row.  When I edit the document I want to make sure the
sentences/ words still align correctly. 
Thank you.
Bill


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[JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 telling me the exact position of a character in Word 2007

[Bill Tipton (ML)]

Hello,
How can I get JAWS 17 to tell me the exact position of a character within a 
Word 2007document?
Example I have a document somebody else created with many tabs, sometimes 
multiple tabs in a row.  When I edit the document I want
to make sure the sentences/ words still align correctly. 
Thank you.
Bill


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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 And Microsoft Outlook 2010

[Tom Behler]

Steve:

Others certainly should correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe this problem
can be solved by turning off both the reading and preview panes.

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan


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Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 And Microsoft Outlook 2010

Hi friends,

Is there any way to stop JAWS from automatically reading a message when I
open it in Microsoft Outlook 2010, I would like it to just stop on the first
line if possible so that I can read the message with the arrow keys.






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[JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 And Microsoft Outlook 2010

[Hicks Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)]

Hi friends,

Is there any way to stop JAWS from automatically reading a message when I open 
it in Microsoft Outlook 2010, I would like it to just stop on the first line if 
possible so that I can read the message with the arrow keys.





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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and dropbox question

[David Ferrin]

Who the files are from is not announced by JAWS itself in windows 10.
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from 
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
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To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and dropbox question


Hi Michael,
I can't answer your question specifically, since I don't have Windows 10
running,
but I do know that on my systems if I am at the computer when files are
added to my Dropbox Jaws does announce it.
As far as who the files are from, I don't think that information is given.
At least now we have a question to work with. (smile)

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

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To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and dropbox question


does dropbox announce what is being downloaded as well as who is putting it
in?  With the latest anniversary windows 10 update

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> So, where's the question?
>
> Rick Justice
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and dropbox question

[Rick Justice]

Hi Michael,
I can't answer your question specifically, since I don't have Windows 10 
running,
but I do know that on my systems if I am at the computer when files are 
added to my Dropbox Jaws does announce it.
As far as who the files are from, I don't think that information is given.
At least now we have a question to work with. (smile)

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

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Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and dropbox question


does dropbox announce what is being downloaded as well as who is putting it
in?  With the latest anniversary windows 10 update

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Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 9:30 AM
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and dropbox question

> So, where's the question?
>
> Rick Justice
>
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> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 11:51 AM
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and dropbox question

[Michael Amaro]

does dropbox announce what is being downloaded as well as who is putting it 
in?  With the latest anniversary windows 10 update


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Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 9:30 AM
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and dropbox question


So, where's the question?

Rick Justice

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and dropbox question

[Rick Justice]

So, where's the question?

Rick Justice

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 And WEB Based Applications

[Bob]

Moving to items on web based applications quickly depends only on how the
said items have been created.
There are so many possibilities on how a set of tabs can be created that its
difficult to guess.

If you can navigate to the tabs with the arrow keys then listen to how they
are described. If they are links then use the links list, if list items use
L or I to jump between them.
If you are looking for a control + tab type keystroke then this is unlikely
to work as it would clash with the IE use of the same keystroke.

You may benefit from some custom scripts for the app if there are specific
features you would like adding.


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Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 And WEB Based Applications

Hi friends,

I Have a web based application which is called Service anywhere and is
written by HPE.
I Would like to use this with JAWS, it seems to read o.k. but JAWS seems to
re-form the screen content and it will be a task of getting training and
used to the screen layout I think.
Does anyone have any tips on how to make web based applications more useable
please?
Is there a way to jump around tabs on the screen for example?
The programme sems to display information on the screen with tabs at the top
of the screen but JAWS is reformatting this in to what appears to be one big
long list, can I jump to the different tabs easily with JAWS?

Many thanks in anticipation,






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[JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 And WEB Based Applications

[Hicks Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)]

Hi friends,

I Have a web based application which is called Service anywhere and is written 
by HPE.
I Would like to use this with JAWS, it seems to read o.k. but JAWS seems to 
re-form the screen content and it will be a task of getting training and used 
to the screen layout I think.
Does anyone have any tips on how to make web based applications more useable 
please?
Is there a way to jump around tabs on the screen for example?
The programme sems to display information on the screen with tabs at the top of 
the screen but JAWS is reformatting this in to what appears to be one big long 
list, can I jump to the different tabs easily with JAWS?

Many thanks in anticipation,





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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 CD

[Jason White]

I understand that Freedom Scientific will give you an authorization code by
e-mail, so you don't need a CD. This is especially relevant to people with
machines that do not have optical drives, which are clearly on the way out,
having been dispaced by flash memory devices.

Tom  wrote:
> I downloaded jaws 17 from the freedom scientific website, and using it in 40
> minute mode, while waiting on my CD to be delivered, and now that it has,
> should I uninstall the downloaded version, which is pro, or just run the
> authorization CD, and then authorize the version I downloaded? I bought the
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 CD

[Tom]

thank you

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From: Rick Justice

Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 9:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 CD

Hi Tom,
Just run your authorization disk, and activate Jaws.
Your authorization will determine professional or home use.

HTH,
Rick Justice

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and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

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Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 9:13 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 CD


I downloaded jaws 17 from the freedom scientific website, and using it in 40
minute mode, while waiting on my CD to be delivered, and now that it has,
should I uninstall the downloaded version, which is pro, or just run the
authorization CD, and then authorize the version I downloaded? I bought the
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 CD

[Rick Justice]

Hi Tom,
Just run your authorization disk, and activate Jaws.
Your authorization will determine professional or home use.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

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To: "jul" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 9:13 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 CD


I downloaded jaws 17 from the freedom scientific website, and using it in 40 
minute mode, while waiting on my CD to be delivered, and now that it has, 
should I uninstall the downloaded version, which is pro, or just run the 
authorization CD, and then authorize the version I downloaded? I bought the 
home version
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[JAWS-Users] jaws 17 CD

[Tom]

I downloaded jaws 17 from the freedom scientific website, and using it in 40 
minute mode, while waiting on my CD to be delivered, and now that it has, 
should I uninstall the downloaded version, which is pro, or just run the 
authorization CD, and then authorize the version I downloaded? I bought the 
home version
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 with adobe connect!

[Negoslav Sabev]

It is accessible.

Negoslav Sabev

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 24, 2016, at 4:38 PM, Mailing Lists  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I am trying to access a live interactive classroom using adobe connect with
> jaws V 17 for participation in an online course.
> 
> Is this possible to do using adobe connect or is there a better alternative
> for jaws users?
> Please, any help would be great.
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Paul.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ***
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 And Clipboard

[Pinky]

 If you want to copy something which was recently spoken like an error
message or something like that, just use the layered keystroke Jaws
Key+Spacebar followed by "H" for "history".
This will bring up the "Speech History" and all Jaws has recently spoken is
displayed in a virtual viewer 
You can use Control+End to go to the bottom of the virtual viewer as
whatever was said last will be listed at the bottom.
If you end up with a lot of stuff in the speech history you can use the
layered keystroke Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by Shift+H to clear the virtual
viewer containing this speech history.


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Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 1:26 AM
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 And Clipboard

Does anyone know if there is a function in JAWS with a key stroke to copy
the last spoken text to the clipboard?
You can do this on the IPhone and it is really useful!



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[JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 And Clipboard

[Hicks Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)]

Does anyone know if there is a function in JAWS with a key stroke to copy the 
last spoken text to the clipboard?
You can do this on the IPhone and it is really useful!



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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 And Capital Letter Announcement

[Hicks Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)]

That is really helpful, thanks so much!
Adjusted a bit much at 40, Eloquence sounds in real pain when it hits a capital 
now :-)
At least it is obvious where there is one unlike before :-)


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Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: 20 June 2016 09:52
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 And Capital Letter Announcement

In the JAWS menus, go to options, arrow down to voices and press enter, then 
press enter on voice adjustment. Make sure you select the voice profile you 
want, then start tabbing. As I was reminded a couple of days ago, voice 
adjustment is an edit box. I changed from the default 25% to 50%, and it has 
made a difference.

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Of Hicks Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 2:23 AM
To: JAWS-Users-List@JAWS-Users.COM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 And Capital Letter Announcement

Hi friends,

Where can I find the settings so that JAWS will announce capital letters in a 
higher pitch or somethign to make it more obvious when reading with the arrow 
keys to check passwords etc?

Many thanks in anticipation,



Steven Hicks
Servicedesk 2 team Leader
Cornwall I.T. Services (CITS)
Office:  01209 318620
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 And Capital Letter Announcement

[Adrian Spratt]

In the JAWS menus, go to options, arrow down to voices and press enter, then 
press enter on voice adjustment. Make sure you select the voice profile you 
want, then start tabbing. As I was reminded a couple of days ago, voice 
adjustment is an edit box. I changed from the default 25% to 50%, and it has 
made a difference.

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Of Hicks Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 2:23 AM
To: JAWS-Users-List@JAWS-Users.COM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 And Capital Letter Announcement

Hi friends,

Where can I find the settings so that JAWS will announce capital letters in a 
higher pitch or somethign to make it more obvious when reading with the arrow 
keys to check passwords etc?

Many thanks in anticipation,



Steven Hicks
Servicedesk 2 team Leader
Cornwall I.T. Services (CITS)
Office:  01209 318620
Email:  steven.hi...@nhs.net<mailto:steven.hi...@nhs.net>




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[JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 And Capital Letter Announcement

[Hicks Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)]

Hi friends,

Where can I find the settings so that JAWS will announce capital letters in a 
higher pitch or somethign to make it more obvious when reading with the arrow 
keys to check passwords etc?

Many thanks in anticipation,



Steven Hicks
Servicedesk 2 team Leader
Cornwall I.T. Services (CITS)
Office:  01209 318620
Email:  steven.hi...@nhs.net




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[JAWS-Users] Jaws 17 and Windows Mail Issue

[John M.]

Hi all,
I use the Windows Mail client on my Windows 7 computer. This is not Windows 
Live Mail, but the Windows Mail client that is part of Win 7, but disabled by 
default. Ever since I upgraded to Jaws 17, when in a message (either composing 
or reading) and tab through the To, CC and BCC fields, jaws says Picture1, 
Picture2, etc, instead of announcing the names/email addresses. I can read the 
names/email addresses using the Jaws cursor, but I would love to have this 
working the way it did prior to Jaws 17. Has anyone come across this issue and 
is there a fix?

Thanks,
John
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17 latest up-date

[Cristóbal]

This update worked fine for me on both my machines, but I have experienced
this same issue every blue moon over the years. Indeed, updating the
authorization has always resolved it for me. 
It was stressful the first couple of times I encountered it, but after that,
it became just a random and slightly annoying glitch that's easily fixed. No
big deal really.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Eric Damery
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 7:33 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17 latest up-date

All,

I know that this is happening for many users who have older ILM keys on
their computers. Once you update the authorization this time, if you are
being asked to, I'm quite certain that authorization issues will not return
for you on that computer. And as always, we are happy to assist by resetting
keys for you if necessary.

Regards,
Eric Damery

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Geno9802
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 10:23 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17 latest up-date

I found the same with the 40 minute mode. Called FS TECH Support and found
that needed to install the long number or go to the internet of which while
up dating and FS Verified me and bingo.. In business.. Just had to be
careful with The steps in the up-dating.. Geno, Portland, ME.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 10:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] end it all scripts

and who sent Mike the scripts? might it have been me?
I just want to be recognized occasionally. no offense Mike.
 Original Message 
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, Apr 8, 2016 7:20:05 AM EST
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] end it all scripts

Thanks to Mike who sent me the scripts for end it all this morning I'll post
them shortly. I don't recall just how much they add to the experience but
they can't hurt I imagine.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17 latest up-date

[David Ferrin]

I guess that explains why my lap top is fine. Since I just did a clean
install of 10 on it the key I pulled down was only from last month. I see
now, from what I heard in the background the other day talking to John you
folks are quite busy.

If they weren't then they would probably be out playing in traffic which we
all should know is not safe. 
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Eric Damery
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 10:33 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17 latest up-date

All,

I know that this is happening for many users who have older ILM keys on
their computers. Once you update the authorization this time, if you are
being asked to, I'm quite certain that authorization issues will not return
for you on that computer. And as always, we are happy to assist by resetting
keys for you if necessary.

Regards,
Eric Damery

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Geno9802
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 10:23 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17 latest up-date

I found the same with the 40 minute mode. Called FS TECH Support and found
that needed to install the long number or go to the internet of which while
up dating and FS Verified me and bingo.. In business.. Just had to be
careful with The steps in the up-dating.. Geno, Portland, ME.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 10:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] end it all scripts

and who sent Mike the scripts? might it have been me?
I just want to be recognized occasionally. no offense Mike.
 Original Message 
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, Apr 8, 2016 7:20:05 AM EST
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] end it all scripts

Thanks to Mike who sent me the scripts for end it all this morning I'll post
them shortly. I don't recall just how much they add to the experience but
they can't hurt I imagine.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17 latest up-date

[Eric Damery]

All,

I know that this is happening for many users who have older ILM keys on their 
computers. Once you update the authorization this time, if you are being asked 
to, I'm quite certain that authorization issues will not return for you on that 
computer. And as always, we are happy to assist by resetting keys for you if 
necessary.

Regards,
Eric Damery

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Geno9802
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 10:23 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17 latest up-date

I found the same with the 40 minute mode. Called FS TECH Support and found that 
needed to install the long number or go to the internet of which while up 
dating and FS Verified me and bingo.. In business.. Just had to be careful with 
The steps in the up-dating.. Geno, Portland, ME.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mario
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 10:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] end it all scripts

and who sent Mike the scripts? might it have been me?
I just want to be recognized occasionally. no offense Mike.
 Original Message 
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, Apr 8, 2016 7:20:05 AM EST
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] end it all scripts

Thanks to Mike who sent me the scripts for end it all this morning I'll post 
them shortly. I don't recall just how much they add to the experience but they 
can't hurt I imagine.
David Ferrin
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[JAWS-Users] Jaws 17 latest up-date

[Geno9802]

I found the same with the 40 minute mode. Called FS TECH Support and found
that needed to install the long number or go to the internet of which while
up dating and FS Verified me and bingo.. In business.. Just had to be
careful with The steps in the up-dating.. Geno, Portland, ME.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 10:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] end it all scripts

and who sent Mike the scripts? might it have been me?
I just want to be recognized occasionally. no offense Mike.
 Original Message 
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, Apr 8, 2016 7:20:05 AM EST
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] end it all scripts

Thanks to Mike who sent me the scripts for end it all this morning I'll
post them shortly. I don't recall just how much they add to the
experience but they can't hurt I imagine.
David Ferrin
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[JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 And Tab Key

[Hicks Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)]

Hi friends,

Probably being a bit stupid but can anyone give me the steps to turn off the 
announcing of the tab key please?
I Have gone in to the keyboard manager and select the default configuration but 
I can't see how to turn off the tab key from there.

Many thanks in anticipation,



Steven Hicks
Servicedesk 2 team Leader
Cornwall I.T. Services (CITS)
Office:  01209 318620
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17 update is released

[Dave Carlson]

Rick,

Agree. "give a man a fish"...and all that.
Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Justice" <ricjust...@jaws-users.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 03:09 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17 update is released


Have you tried going to

www.freedomscientific.com

and looking for Jaws 17?

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Everything must be learned, but some things just can't be taught!"

- Original Message - 
From: "mr. Chikodinaka Nickkrandidm Oguledo" <happychi...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17 update is released


jaws17 is out I need the link

On 3/15/16, Marek Durila <marek_dur...@cz.ibm.com> wrote:
> And here is list of changes:
> Enhancements in JAWS 17.0.1539 (March 2016)
>
>
> The following is a list of improvements made between the JAWS 17 January
> 2016 release and the March 2016 update.
>
>
> To download the latest release, visit the Downloads web page.
>
>
> Receive Notifications from JAWS About New FSCast Episodes
>
>
> FSCast is Freedom Scientific's podcast featuring news, interviews, and
> product demonstrations relating to Freedom Scientific products. When a new
> episode is available, JAWS now displays a dialog box containing
> information
> about the episode. You can then choose whether to listen to the current
> episode, go to the FSCast web page to hear the current episode as well as
> prior episodes, or be reminded again later. Press ESC or choose Cancel to
> not be notified again until the next episode is available. This feature is
> especially helpful for users who do not regularly access podcasts through
> applications like iTunes, but still want to know when a new FSCast is
> available.
>
>
> Note: If you choose the Listen Now button, the current episode is played
> using Windows Media Player. If Windows Media Player is not installed, JAWS
> opens the FSCast web page and places focus on the latest episode so you
> can
> download and play it using your preferred media player.
>
>
> FSCast notifications are on by default in the English version of JAWS.
> Since FSCast content is only in English, this feature is off by default in
> non-English versions. However, it can be enabled in Settings Center.
> Search
> in the Default file for "FS" and you will find the option.
>
>
> Adobe Acrobat
>   A number of users reported issues with their systems becoming very
>   sluggish while using JAWS with Adobe Acrobat, including when using
>   ALT+TAB, or when scanning to a document. JAWS was attempting to
>   request information from Acrobat which it was not receiving and
>   eventually both products became unresponsive. We have made changes
> in
>   JAWS to prevent this situation from occurring and we believe this
>   issue is now resolved with this update.
> Braille
>   In response to customer feedback, if you have a line of dashes such
>   as a separator on a web page, JAWS no longer shortens the line to
> one
>   or two dashes on the braille display.
>   If you type "tri" without the quotes from the braille display, JAWS
>   no longer inserts a triangle bullet.
>   The Euro symbol (dot 4 followed by dots 1-5) and the British pounds
>   sterling symbol (dot 4 followed by dots 4-5-6) are now displayed
>   correctly in Contracted English Braille.
>   If JAWS is configured for Unified English Braille Grade 2 input and
>   you type dot 6 followed by a ch-sign (dots 1-6), the proper text is
>   now being inserted.
>   When braille output is set to Unified English Grade 2, resolved an
>   issue where a single space before and after a dash character was not
>   being shown on the braille display.
>   In response to customer feedback, Tibetan is now correctly displayed
>   in the list of braille languages located in the Translation group in
>   Settings Center.
> JAWS
>   Addressed an intermittent issue where searching for a JAWS keystroke
>   using the JAWS Command Search feature (INSERT+SPACEBAR, J) would
>   sometimes not return any results.
>   If JAWS and MAGic are running together, addressed a customer
> reported
>   issue where the CAPSLOCK+Mouse Wheel was not changing the
>   magnification level.
>   Addressed a customer reported issue with the Pitch slider in the
>   Voice Adjustment dialog box not working as expected for Vocalizer
>   Expressive voices.
>   You can now perform the layered command INSERT+SPACEBAR follow

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17 update is released

[Tom Behler]

Probably right, Dave.

Fortunately, my SMA is good up through Jaws 18, although I'll probably have my 
new Windows 10 laptop up and running long before that release.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 4:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17 update is released

Tom,
I would expect something like that with a major release, like JAWS 18.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Behler" <tombeh...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 09:23 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17 update is released


Does anyone know when FS plans to release a replacement for the merge 
utilities feature that was discontinued with Jaws 17?

I have heard that we are promised something, at least at some point.

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 10:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17 update is released

Good morning Jaws users group.
The update for Jaws 17 is ready.
Yes, they have fixed the button problem in the w-10 settings area.
Windows
• Resolved a customer reported issue where JAWS was not reading the correct 
status of buttons in various Windows 10 Settings dialog boxes.
Thank you F S, I am going to give it a test.


Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed 
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with 
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually 
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where 
God sits.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17 update is released

[Rick Justice]

Have you tried going to

www.freedomscientific.com

and looking for Jaws 17?

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Everything must be learned, but some things just can't be taught!"

- Original Message - 
From: "mr. Chikodinaka Nickkrandidm Oguledo" <happychi...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17 update is released


jaws17 is out I need the link

On 3/15/16, Marek Durila <marek_dur...@cz.ibm.com> wrote:
> And here is list of changes:
> Enhancements in JAWS 17.0.1539 (March 2016)
>
>
> The following is a list of improvements made between the JAWS 17 January
> 2016 release and the March 2016 update.
>
>
> To download the latest release, visit the Downloads web page.
>
>
> Receive Notifications from JAWS About New FSCast Episodes
>
>
> FSCast is Freedom Scientific's podcast featuring news, interviews, and
> product demonstrations relating to Freedom Scientific products. When a new
> episode is available, JAWS now displays a dialog box containing 
> information
> about the episode. You can then choose whether to listen to the current
> episode, go to the FSCast web page to hear the current episode as well as
> prior episodes, or be reminded again later. Press ESC or choose Cancel to
> not be notified again until the next episode is available. This feature is
> especially helpful for users who do not regularly access podcasts through
> applications like iTunes, but still want to know when a new FSCast is
> available.
>
>
> Note: If you choose the Listen Now button, the current episode is played
> using Windows Media Player. If Windows Media Player is not installed, JAWS
> opens the FSCast web page and places focus on the latest episode so you 
> can
> download and play it using your preferred media player.
>
>
> FSCast notifications are on by default in the English version of JAWS.
> Since FSCast content is only in English, this feature is off by default in
> non-English versions. However, it can be enabled in Settings Center. 
> Search
> in the Default file for "FS" and you will find the option.
>
>
> Adobe Acrobat
>   A number of users reported issues with their systems becoming very
>   sluggish while using JAWS with Adobe Acrobat, including when using
>   ALT+TAB, or when scanning to a document. JAWS was attempting to
>   request information from Acrobat which it was not receiving and
>   eventually both products became unresponsive. We have made changes 
> in
>   JAWS to prevent this situation from occurring and we believe this
>   issue is now resolved with this update.
> Braille
>   In response to customer feedback, if you have a line of dashes such
>   as a separator on a web page, JAWS no longer shortens the line to 
> one
>   or two dashes on the braille display.
>   If you type "tri" without the quotes from the braille display, JAWS
>   no longer inserts a triangle bullet.
>   The Euro symbol (dot 4 followed by dots 1-5) and the British pounds
>   sterling symbol (dot 4 followed by dots 4-5-6) are now displayed
>   correctly in Contracted English Braille.
>   If JAWS is configured for Unified English Braille Grade 2 input and
>   you type dot 6 followed by a ch-sign (dots 1-6), the proper text is
>   now being inserted.
>   When braille output is set to Unified English Grade 2, resolved an
>   issue where a single space before and after a dash character was not
>   being shown on the braille display.
>   In response to customer feedback, Tibetan is now correctly displayed
>   in the list of braille languages located in the Translation group in
>   Settings Center.
> JAWS
>   Addressed an intermittent issue where searching for a JAWS keystroke
>   using the JAWS Command Search feature (INSERT+SPACEBAR, J) would
>   sometimes not return any results.
>   If JAWS and MAGic are running together, addressed a customer 
> reported
>   issue where the CAPSLOCK+Mouse Wheel was not changing the
>   magnification level.
>   Addressed a customer reported issue with the Pitch slider in the
>   Voice Adjustment dialog box not working as expected for Vocalizer
>   Expressive voices.
>   You can now perform the layered command INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by 
> Z
>   to load the JAWS factory settings. This enables you to override your
>   current user settings and any customized scrips with the default
>   settings and scripts to help troubleshoot any issues you may be
>   experiencing. Perform this command again to switch back to your
>   current user settings.
>   If

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17 update is released

[Dave Carlson]

Tom,
I would expect something like that with a major release, like JAWS 18.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Behler" <tombeh...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 09:23 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17 update is released


Does anyone know when FS plans to release a replacement for the merge 
utilities feature that was discontinued with Jaws 17?

I have heard that we are promised something, at least at some point.

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 10:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17 update is released

Good morning Jaws users group.
The update for Jaws 17 is ready.
Yes, they have fixed the button problem in the w-10 settings area.
Windows
• Resolved a customer reported issue where JAWS was not reading the correct 
status of buttons in various Windows 10 Settings dialog boxes.
Thank you F S, I am going to give it a test.


Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed 
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with 
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually 
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where 
God sits.
Jim
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