[lace] Expanding cloth stitch with weaving techniques

[Joseph Young]

Just wondering if any of you have contemplated using weaving techniques
inside our bobbin lace! Obviously it would add complications, but I am
sure it can be done.

One thing I have always wanted was a floor loom. 8 shaft. One day I will
get it!

I am thinking that any cloth stitch area could be manipulated to hold
pattern rather than just regular cloth stitch. Cloth stitch is
essentially just plain weave, so cant we add a pattern, like 3/1 twill
or even complex rose path ect by manipulating the way we cross and twist
our passive pairs. I think this could be a revelation to me.

Imagine a trail going around a mat that has an overshot pattern in it,
in multiple colours. Ohh la la this is intreguing!

regards Joseph


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Re: [lace] Working all 4 bobbins in your hands at once

[Joseph Young]

Hi Pam, this is usually known as working "palms up"


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[lace] "gridding" to mark place on net.

[Joseph Young]

Hi Everyone, thanks for all your wonderful responses to Filet Lacis 
(filet lace). If I haven't replied to everyone of you, its just that 
there is heaps of emails, and I am still filtering through them.

Is there a simple way to "grid" your net once it is on the frame? When i 
X-stitch I always grid my work with red fishing line so that I don't 
have to continually keep counting where I am at. Would this be OK to do 
with the gridded net? I guess its just a try and see thing, but i 
thought it might trigger someone else's brain into streamlining their lace.


Regards, Joseph

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Re: [lace] Walter Evans and Co.'s Mecklenburg thread No. 20

[Joseph Young]

The thread is used in a few old Filet Lacis books. I want to use it to 
make netting and then embroider on it to make "filet lace". I just 
bought a shuttle and gauge set, so now I need to find out what thread I 
need to use.


Joseph



> It depends what sort of lace you are planning to make.  If it’s Torchon then
> 12 wraps of the thread should fit between two foot-edge pinholes.  If it’s a
> point ground it’s 10 wraps.  The wraps should be close together but not
> overlapping.  For Bedfordshire or any braid lace then it’s a combination of
> experience and experiment.
>
> Brenda

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[lace] Re: Walter Evans and Co.'s Mecklenburg thread No. 20

[Joseph Young]

I have her books, but unfortunately I could not find this thread in there...


For thread comparison Brenda Paternoster’s books is invaluable. She compares
many threads in such a way that enables cross-referencing easily.

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[lace] Walter Evans and Co.'s Mecklenburg thread No. 20

[Joseph Young]

Hi all in the arachne web.

I am looking for an equivalent for this thread, Walter Evans and Co.'s 
Mecklenburg thread No. 20. It is mentioned in many old books I have read 
online. I would love a WPC equivalent if possible. I would love to know what 
type of thread it is too, like a mercerized or glazed cotton.

Regards,  Joseph

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Re: [lace] Threading needles

[Joseph Young]

This is the same way i was taught (not in the 50's though, but the 
person who taught me learned in that era).

I am going to invest in a Bohin threader (what my quilting guild use) 
and a clover "yarn needle threader" for size 24,26,28 tapestry needles. 
These seem to be the crowd favorites.

Joseph .


> To easily thread most needles, lay a length of thread over the shaft of the 
> needle & pull sharply, grasping both thread ends firmly between thumb & 
> forefinger.  Slide the crisply folded thread off the shaft & lay the eye of 
> the needle over the fold you are pinching.  If the thread doesn’t pop up thru 
> the eye, flip the needle over & try the other side.
>
> My mother taught us this and said it was the way a blind person could thread 
> a needle (that was back in the 50s)!!

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Re: [lace] Re: Block pillow question

[Joseph Young]

I only use the hot-wire outside, preferably on a windy day as it makes the foam 
cut straighter. The foam I use is called XPS, it does not bead and let off 
little pearls like most foam, and it can easily be cut with a stanley knife, 
but I use the hot wire purely because of my hand tremors. Much easier to push 
it through the wire straight rather than with a knife.  The foam is $12 for a 
huge piece, probably make 3 pillows from it.  I whip up cotton covers in 
unbleached calico, overlock the squares then dye them with RIT dye to a nice 
shade of mottled blue.  The hotwire is really simple, just an old machine 
knitting table with a hole drilled in the centre, and an L square attached to 
hold the wire. I power it with a dimmer, old PC power supply and a foot pedal.  
Grandad has also successfully cut the foam with the scroll saw (that i am not 
allowed to go near with a barge pole).

I have started using a piece of yoga mat on top of my blocks now, as the pins 
grab in it better than felt, and it kind of becomes self healing. Half blocks 
and quarter blocks seem to be on the agenda now. I cannot stand a cookie pillow 
as I HATE to move up my work. That is a sure fire way for me to stuff it up!


Joseph – be careful to use the hot wire in a well-ventilated space as the 
gases that come off from the cutting are not good for you

Sue




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[lace] Re: Block pillow question

[Joseph Young]

Thanks Nancy, I think I might make mine 30" octagonal with half blocks 
and an optional pit to make spheres. I will certainly use some half 
blocks as working on the hankie at the moment is awkward because its too 
little to move the block, and too much to not move it, so the bobbins 
only have a short working thread, and they are hanging off the pillow 
which is not ideal.

I made myself a hot wire (with help from grandad), so I cut my own 
blocks, cover them and then make trays out of coreflute. I just wasn't 
sure about others preference or whether I was just being a tad fussy. I 
also want to make a fan pillow that has triangular blocks that can be 
swapped and replaced to make the curved fan.

Joseph.
> Joseph,
>
> There's a 23" pillow out there with 6 3/4" blocks, triangular blocks 
> at the 'corners' so it's octagonal, and two half-blocks--and you're 
> right, the half-blocks are incredibly useful.
>
> I

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Re: [lace] Spulfix bobbin winder for counter-clockwise winding

[Joseph Young]

I have one of these (I think). There is a little switch on the battery 
box that allows you to change the direction of the way you wind the bobbin.

I wind my midlands this way, I might be doing it in the reverse of what 
I am supposed to. maybe that's why I have some slipping with my 
hitch, even though its not on the head of the bobbin, but rather over 
the wound thread.

Joseph
> Do you have experience using the battery-powered Spulfix bobbin winder from
> Germany?  I want to wind Idrija bobbins for Idrija lace to be worked a
> bolster pillow and the bobbins need to be wound *counter-clockwise,* i.e.
> with the thread coming from *behind* and *underneath* the bobbin.  Is this
> possible with the Spulfix winder?
>

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Re: [lace] Please Share Lace Experiences and Questions

[Joseph Young]

Arachne is a wonderful resource that I admit I do not use often enough. 
I really need to start posting questions here as I always put it off 
because I am not so timely writing responses.

I love the philosophy of sharing everything you learn, its important 
that it is passed down. I originally found the lace community very 
secretive, and talking to some people in my local guild was no help, 
they fixed my mistakes for me, without explaining how to do it. So many 
questions and answers on Arachne are wonderful! I need to stop lurking 
and do more talking.

Facebook makes it easier to send photo's with your questions, that is 
why some people flock to it. It would be amazing if Arachne opened a 
closed Facebook group for members. Getting younger lacemakers is harder, 
and I am currently working on a Youtube learning series where I am going 
to teach what I learn as I learn it. Doing samples was all well and 
good, but I spent a year making samples when I should have dived in and 
made some actual lace. I am working on my first actual piece now, and i 
have 3 pricking in the line up afterwards. I am truly addicted!

One question I have been meaning to ask is... when you use a block 
pillow, how big is the total pillow. I am working on one that is 18"x18" 
with 6" blocks. I need to make another that is larger, that includes 
some smaller blocks. Its hard for me to manage the bobbins on this 
pillow, as I really need to move the blocks up half a block at a time 
rather than a full block.

Joseph.

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Re: [lace] E reader version of "Practical Skills... by B. Cook

[Joseph Young]

Hi Ruth, Have you tried Better World Books? I got my copy a couple of 
weeks ago for $12au including postage. ($1aud is approx $1cad.  I just 
watch my cart, and they often reduce in price drastically.


Regards, Joseph

> Alternatively, you could opt to pay $165.45 Canadian dollars for a printed
> and likely used copy.
>
>

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[lace] Dangerous Email

[Joseph Young]

Hey Arachnids, I recieved an email from the list today that triggered my 
security systems. I urge you to not follow the link in the email. The 
subject line of the message is ❣yahoo new work.

Please consider your internet safety. I hope that this email is ok, and 
I have not breached any rules.


Regards, Joseph

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Re: [lace] Lace samples

[Joseph Young]

I was gifted some lace odds and sods. I plan to make paperweights out of 
resin with them.

Regards, Joseph

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[lace] Dyeing cotton threads

[Joseph Young]

Hi There, I thought this would be the place to ask.

Do any of you hank and dye thread? I have dyed a lot of regular yarn, 
but I am not sure If i can do the same thing with thread. Obviously the 
thread will take up the dye differently depending on how the thread was 
spun and treated.

My main question is, can I hank the thread on a small diy niddy noddy, 
tie it with figure 8 ties like yarn, and the thread will be ok and wind 
off neatly like yarn?


I hope this is an OK question.

Regards, Joseph

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Re: [lace] Bobbin holder

[Joseph Young]

Hi Jeri, Grace Adler Designs is infact from the US sitcom Will And 
Grace. I needed a new email after my old one got corrupted, and because 
I am a big big fan of the show, I chose to use that.

Sorry that it isn't about lace, and I am glad to finally being able to 
write to you all. It took me a while to get it working, but now that I 
have message filters and such its much easier.

Regards, Joseph
In Australia.

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Re: [lace] Bobbin holder

[Joseph Young]

I don't know if any of you are machine knitters, but you can use a 
ribber cast on comb, and remove the wire, hang the bobbins over the pegs 
and replace the wire. This really works well when using a lot of 
bobbins. I twiched a wire on each end of one of mine,and then hung it 
like a coat hanger on the back of my door when I first traveled with pre 
wound bobbins. It also hangs well on the suit hook in my car, I draped a 
cover cloth over the lot to keep the bobbins clean.

I have only just been able to send messages to the Arachne list, All my 
messages were returned to me.


Regards, Joseph

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[lace] Idrija brand lace thread WPC

[Joseph Young]

Hi Everyone, long time lurking without posts, I had trouble with the 
server and then gave up, but I have worked it out now.

I have acquired some patterns for Idrija lace that I want to learn, but 
I am stumped on the thread sizing.  Alot of my patterns mention "idrija 
brand" thread in various sizes. I have looked in my threads for lace 
book, but I cannot find a reference to it. nr.40 is the most common 
size, but I have seen it mentioned in 30

Does anyone have this thread? Would you be willing to share the wpc please?

Thankyou all


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Re: [lace] Re: Arachne Handbook etc

[Joseph Young]

Sorry Jane, I'm not too sure what photo you are referring to. I wasn't aware
that i was sending a Hyperlink.

I always strip my posts entirely before sending to Arachne, I have checked all
settings and my signature only contains text and no URL's.

I can get into flickr for Arachne without being logged in on Google Chrome,
but Microsoft Edge doesn't allow me to get in and i get sent into a redirect
loop.


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Re: [lace] Arachne Flickr page

[Joseph Young]

I struggled to Join Arachne, that may be an off putter. Once i got In I have 
found it wonderful.

I tried to download the "handbook" from Majordomo server, but i got an error 
message telling me that there was no such file.

I didn't want to breach any of your rules when posting, so i have been mainly 
posting replies.


Outlook and Hotmail's servers wouldn't let me join unless I set my mail server 
to plain text only (even though i didn't use any fancy formatting.)

I had to change the email type to "plain text only" to get the server to accept 
my commands, and to also accept any new/reply emails to the server. I have to 
re-set it to this format before every email I send to Arachne.

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Re: [lace] Pincushion

[Joseph Young]

Before I started lace making, all of my pin cushions were stuffed with 
fine steel wool and a tiny cube of soap in the very centre to keep the 
pins lubricated. This is how my granny always did them, but now that I 
am using nickel plated stainless pins, i cant use that for fear of 
damaging the pins.

In home Ec we were taught to use walnut hulls that you get from the 
fodder store.

Now i stuff my cushions half unwashed wool and half polyfill from the 
craft store. If your cushion is too soft once its stuffed, you can up 
the ratio of wool in the stuffing and felt it in the washer and dryer so 
that it can "grab" the pins a bit better.



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Re: [lace] Linen Thread Storage

[Joseph Young]

I live in South Australia.
We dont live in the desert, we have an average humidity of 35-55%. I wouldnt 
know how to rate that as dry or mildly damp.

I have a small cabinet that has a mesh front, and a couple of shelves. It will 
fit in the bathroom. I will make some trays to put the thread in.

How should i mark the outer of the tissue? Use 3m acid free tape and acid free 
marker?

Thanks Brenda, I feel very special being able to talk to you.


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Regards,
Joseph


"The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain." 
-Dolly Parton

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On 14 Nov 2016, at 8:15 PM, Brenda Paternoster 
> wrote:

We live in a single story house, with no attic or basement.

What is the best way to keep moisture in the thread? Is there a device that i
can keep with the thread when it has been property prepared for storage?

At my last resort, i can put a small cabinet in the bathroom too keep the
thread. I think that would be my best option at this stage.

What sort of climate do you live in.

Where I am in UK dryness, especially on days like today when it’s just 
drizzling rain all the time, looking after linen is no problem, but if you are 
in a desert …… Yes a cabinet in the bathroom would be a good option.  Wrap 
the spools loosely in acid free tissue, but allow the air to circulate, maybe 
open the drawer when the room is steamy, and don’t seal the linen into 
polythene bags.

Brenda in Allhallows
paternos...@appleshack.com
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Re: [lace] Linen Thread Storage

[Joseph Young]

Thanks for your reply.

I am looking at buying Freesia Linen and Bocken's Linen, I am open to any
recommendations for other linen threads.

We live in a single story house, with no attic or basement.

What is the best way to keep moisture in the thread? Is there a device that i
can keep with the thread when it has been property prepared for storage?

At my last resort, i can put a small cabinet in the bathroom too keep the
thread. I think that would be my best option at this stage.


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Re: [lace] Linen Thread Storage

[Joseph Young]

Thank you Brenda,

We don't live in a centrally heated house, so that's not a problem.

I can install a small ventilated cabinet in the bathroom if need be. I was more 
thinking about some sort of humidor.

I have some Acid-Free tissue on order at the moment.

Thanks again.

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Joseph


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[lace] Linen Thread Storage

[Joseph Young]

Hi Everyone,

I have been reading up on long term storage of linen. I like to collect 
supplies when i can get them, I call myself a collector, others call me a 
hoarder.

I would like to start buying some linen thread as i really like the texture and 
the while concept of a fiber that you can grow (other than cotton and the 
likes). I do know that linen threads store really well, but are difficult to 
store.

Where would i begin to start storing the linen thread for the long term. I 
would like to do it right the first time.

I would love to hear any factoids about linen, and how you like it.

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Regards,
Joseph


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Re: [lace] Hi, New Member here.

[Joseph Young]

I have heard of it Kim,

I am currently trialing a new therapy/drug regime, it seems to be helping. Only 
problem is the side effects.

I have found that doing bobbin lace is very therapeutic. The movements repeat 
themselves, which is wonderful for OCD.


On 16-Oct-16 10:43 AM, Kim Davis wrote:
Joseph,

 I am so glad you are able to reach out!  This is a fun hobby, regardless 
of whether or not you find it an art or a craft!

 Have you heard of EMDR therapy before?  it is an interesting thing, and I 
was once reading an article about how things such as bobbin lace can mimic it.  
I can
not recall where I read it, or I would share that with you.  If it comes to me 
I will be sure to post.  In any case, the idea is that because you are working 
with both your left and right hands, it engages both sides of the brain and is 
helpful in getting the emotional side to talk to the logical side.  Thankfully 
the anxiety I have experienced in my life has been mild, but I will say that I 
noticed long ago that both bobbin lace and braiding have a very meditative 
quality for me.  I think the symmetrical work is very soothing.

Have fun with your lace!

Kim




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Joseph

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Re: [lace] Hi, New Member here.

[Joseph Young]

Thanks everyone for your welcomes!


I don't actually have a "teacher". I have been learning from books, and 
advice from others on the Australian online group Gumlace. I have a 
wonderful mentor that helps me to understand things, I contact her via 
emails.

My local lace group is 3 hours drive away.

As for how my learning is going:


I have mastered CT,  CTC, CTCT, Torchon edge. I understand how to wind 
my bobbins.

I am tackling Torchon ground at the moment. My pillow is only 12" square 
at the moment. I am working on covering the blocks for a much larger 
block pillow. I have 25 blocks to cover.

-- 
Joseph

The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain.
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[lace] Hi, New Member here.

[Joseph Young]

Hi Everyone, My name is Joseph, and I am new here.

I'm a 21 year old veteran crafter, I love working with anything that can be 
transformed into a beautiful product.

I have been learning bobbin lace for several months, after wanting to try it 
for many years.

I live in a small town in South Australia. Population 1200.  Due to my severe 
anxiety, I don't get to socialize with many people. Online groups like this one 
are the way I communicate with the world, It took me a while to get up the 
courage to message you all.

I have about 320 midland bobbins, I'm still spangling them all. I am having a 
lot of fun though.

I'm still working on making my large block pillow 5x5 4" blocks,  I have a 
smaller one that is too small.


If you would like to ask any questions about me, please feel free.

Cheers


--
Joseph

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