Re: [lace-chat] domain name change
I just now discovered that I never changed Lace Chat from my g-mail address to my real address. That strongly suggests that it's been *years* since there was any traffic on this list. It's pretty much unanimous that we don't need Chat any more, so it doesn't matter that I've forgotten how to change my address. -- Joy Beeson http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where the temperature is well above freezing. On 12/5/2022 8:48 AM, Elizabeth Reynolds wrote: Greetings to all of you! I’m dropping by to let you know that I’ve accepted an offer for the arachne.com domain. Although I’ve been inactive myself for quite a few years now, I’m still happy and honored to host the lace list, so I have obtained a new domain for it - arachnelace.com <http://arachnelace.com/> I’ll be setting up the list software and copying over all the settings so nothing should change for you except the domain name. If you are whitelisting lace mail you’ll want to update your filter. I see that the lace-chat list is fairly inactive, shall I just remove it now or would you still like to have the option? I will send this same message to lace-chat so nobody misses it, and keep an eye out for responses. Thank you all for being a part of lacemaking and making lovely things. -Liz To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ -- Joy Beeson http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace-chat] domain name change
I just now discovered that I never changed Lace Chat from my g-mail address to my real address. That strongly suggests that it's been *years* since there was any traffic on this list. It's pretty much unanimous that we don't need Chat any more, so it doesn't matter that I've forgotten how to change my address. -- Joy Beeson http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where the temperature is well above freezing. On 12/5/2022 8:48 AM, Elizabeth Reynolds wrote: Greetings to all of you! I’m dropping by to let you know that I’ve accepted an offer for the arachne.com domain. Although I’ve been inactive myself for quite a few years now, I’m still happy and honored to host the lace list, so I have obtained a new domain for it - arachnelace.com <http://arachnelace.com/> I’ll be setting up the list software and copying over all the settings so nothing should change for you except the domain name. If you are whitelisting lace mail you’ll want to update your filter. I see that the lace-chat list is fairly inactive, shall I just remove it now or would you still like to have the option? I will send this same message to lace-chat so nobody misses it, and keep an eye out for responses. Thank you all for being a part of lacemaking and making lovely things. -Liz To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Lacemaker Assistance in Massachusetts, USA
On 10/11/2022 10:00 PM, Vickie McKinney wrote: Also, as a note for tatting, she is left-handed. I once tried tatting "left-handed". My left hand was delighted to do the right hand's work, but my right hand couldn't do the left hand's work at all. -- Joy Beeson http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Re: Goddess of Lace?
On 12/5/2020 6:30 PM, H M Clarke wrote: You might as well choose someone associated with lacemaking and call them a god(dess). Knitters have three goodesses: Mary Thomas, Elizabeth Zimmerman, and Barbara Walker. Barbara Walker introduced her "The Spider" design Drat. Another good post ruined by a little research. I thought that she'd called Arachne a goddess of knitting, but when I looked up the exact quote, it was "the great-grandmother of all the world's spinners and weavers". I made two splendid aran sweaters featuring that design. One could work it up in fingering yarn and put knitted lace around the bottom to make a list- appropriate sweater. -- Joy Beeson http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where it's still late fall. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Re: [Lace] Return to class
On 8/15/2020 7:31 AM, Jane wrote: But I wonder if it maybe better for the teacher to use close fitting disposable gloves. Would it be okay to go from pillow to pillow with these? (I'm wondering out loud). That ever-popular citation "I read somewhere" that for disease prevention gloves are worse than useless, and lead to spreading germs around. On the other hand, a woman who mans a vendor's booth said that she wears gloves so that she can wash her hands after each customer without washing her skin off. I do know (i.e. I've read a *lot* of somewheres) that hand sanitizer is a stopgap for when you can't wash properly. (But it's better than just wetting your hands and wiping them on a dirty towel.) -- Joy Beeson http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace-chat] Change of Address
This is actually a test message -- since there is zero traffic on this list, there is no use waiting for a natural message to show that I've subscribed. We've been unhappy with Comcast for some years; the final straw was a new "security" "upgrade" that locked us out of our own website and couldn't be turned off, disabled, or uninstalled. After many hours on the phone, Comcast did defang the trojan, but by then we had an appointment with Century Link for next Monday. We are upgrading to dial-up! We plan to get e-mail from Proton; in the meanwhile, I'm using my emergency back-up address, joyalbee...@gmail.com. (joybeeson was taken, so I stuck "al" in.) -- Joy Beeson http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Identifying Rosaline- or something else?
On 4/2/2020 5:46 PM, Devon Thein wrote: This has been very advantageous, since other softwares may not be so accommodating to hi res photos. One high-resolution photograph can fill up an entire mailbox; one shouldn't e-mail one without asking first. So it's better to keep e-mail for text and post illustrations on the Web. Of course, I have my own website and don't have to fiddle with figuring out how to use a public website, so I'm a bit biased. The Web site costs eight dollars a month. DH started it for his Lake Cam, but I've pretty much taken it over. Each of his pictures erases the previous picture; the illustrations for Rough Sewing accumulate. -- Joy Beeson http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. Where I'm clearing forgotten messages out of my drafts folder. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Our mail list software
On 4/2/2020 10:38 AM, Dagmar Beckel Machyckova wrote: Pierre, I do agree with you. I wouldn’t know how to start a post. Send your post by e-mail to lace@arachne.com Major Domo will re-send it to everyone on the list. In Thunderbird, one can save typing by right-clicking on lace@arachne.com in the "to" line of someone's post, then choosing "compose message to" from the drop-down list. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ -- Joy Beeson http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Sarah Dazeley hanging bobbin
On 1/26/2020 7:38 PM, Adele Shaak wrote: Cindy - it’s a bobbin that commemorates a public hanging. Yes, that was a thing. Been there, done that, bought the bobbin. -- Joy Beeson http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] I'm still here after all these years...
On 4/28/2019 6:17 PM, Jane Partridge wrote: I wonder if it's worth still having two separate lists? If it's more trouble to maintain it than to kill it, of course an un-used list should go. If it's more trouble to kill it than to maintain it, eh, it isn't hurting anything, why bother? If it's a toss-up, we should remember that simply having an alternate list, without ever using it, helps prevent flame wars. A flame war transplanted to an alternate venue always turns into a civil discussion. I think that having the alternate available also triggers the "I don't want to be the reason this discussion had to be moved" reaction. -- Joy Beeson http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Re: Bedfordshire lace
On 1/27/2019 3:23 PM, Susan wrote: In the meantime, now that I realize that I have a two- or three-lifetime supply of Cordonnet, I will find a solution. I use Cordonnet as sewing thread -- #100/6 for general work, #80/6 for heavy duty. None of the three-ply cotton sewing threads are strong enough. But I haven't tried King Tut yet. -- Joy Beeson http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Re: Teachers or no Teachers
On 11/25/2018 1:27 AM, Kim Davis wrote: Whether this is a tendency of bobbin lace makers or women in general is a whole other debate. No debate. It's a property of people in general. -- Joy Beeson http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Re: The whys & wherefores of using temporary pins in Binche
On 9/6/18 3:02 PM, Marianne Gallant wrote: we are no longer in a big hurry to make as much lace as fast as possible. And pins are cheap! I was baffled by descriptions, in old stories, of mottos marked out in pins, on cushions that were intended for practical use. It finally dawned on me that arranging your pins in a pattern made it easy to be sure that you hadn't lost one. Nowadays we dump them in a dish, and my only fear when I realize that one is missing is that one of us might step on it. -- Joy Beeson http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] questions for you lace makers living in California in the 1980s
On 5/14/18 9:09 PM, Kim Davis wrote: It is known as Lacis now, but was first called The Lace Place. For a time, there was a mail-order business called "Some Place". I had a really terrible time telling people where I got the things I bought from them. I don't know *when* the name was changed to "Lacis", but I sure know *why*. -- Joy Beeson http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where we went straight from winter to summer. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] reporting lace news
On 5/10/18 6:16 PM, Lorelei Halley wrote: 2. Arachne can't handle long urls, and nowadays nearly all photos on the web have very long urls. Absurdly-long URLs can be managed just by hitting to break them into one-line pieces. The reader can open a browser and a mailer in separate windows, and copy-paste in installments. I frequently do this with URLs that have broken somewhere along the way; URLs that are broken deliberately, in logical places, are much easier. (Note: filenames that include the entire file are a fine example of "Just because you *can* doesn't mean that you *should*". About half the time, I don't need to click a link, just read the URL.) -- Joy Beeson http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Single space between sentences; avoid quotations/apostrophes
On 5/9/18 4:11 PM, Adele Shaak wrote: However, when digital printers became available people could use good-looking fonts that had proportional spacing, and the double space was no longer necessary. The double space is no longer necessary when fed to a proper typesetting program that knows how to make an end-of-sentence. But the double space became more necessary than ever when we began writing text that would be displayed in a different font and type size for every reader -- and a *proper* typesetting program can deal with extra spaces. Heck, PC-Write, one of the very first word processors, had a "remove extra spaces" button. And if you want to feed the text to a typesetting program that isn't that advanced, nothing is quicker and easier than |find ". "| |replace". "| |all|. HTML looks like a way out when you are writing it, but HTML fonts are only suggestions -- and in addition to readers who say "Ugh! Serif/sans serif type! Click, ah, that's better.", some browsers won't have the suggested font on hand and will substitute whatever is available. -- Joy Beeson http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Re: Magnifying glasses
Don't overlook places such as Grainger and Harbor Freight. I just checked the Harbor Freight catalog and found a clip-on loupe that leaves me determined to *finally* get around to checking out their new store at 250 E. So far, I've been getting along well with 3.5 reading glasses from the dollar store, which I wear over my prescription glasses. Two of them are in tubes like those made for carrying a toothbrush; I carry one in my jersey pocket and the other in my Little Bag of Stuff. I also have a weaker folding pair from a supermarket; I carry it in my jeans pocket for reading the fine print on labels. -- Joy Beeson http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace-chat] Plait and braid: was: [lace] Re: question
Moved to chat because my reply is off-topic and out of date: On 6/21/17 7:39 AM, AGlez wrote: I also ask myself the same question. Can somebody confirm if "plait" is more often used in the UK, and "braid" is more used in the States? At least this is what I always thought... In Hoosier dialect, it's a matter of time. The old folks said "plat" (and never wrote it down because it was backwoodsy and oldtimey, so I was full grown before I learned that it's spelled "plait"). Educated people said "braid". As far as a little girl knew, the only thing ever braided/plaited was my hair and Jenny Von's. Nowadays it's the other way around: "braid" is everyday and "plait" is high toned. But I don't know how "plait" is pronounced. When I see "plait", my mind's ear says "plate". I think that in at least one time and place, it was "pleet". Joy Beeson in northern Indiana where we're getting spring thunderstorms. -- Joy Beeson http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace-chat] OT: moved to chat: was: Arachne Convention Get Together
On 6/11/17 10:01 PM, Janice Blair wrote: Being a typist in my past, I automatically enter two spaces at the end of each sentence. Find it hard to break that habit. Don't try to break the habit. Clear divisions between sentences are more important now that you have no clue as to how your message will be displayed. -- Joy Beeson http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace-chat] News reports
Over on Lace, there was shock and glee over a newspaper story about lace getting it right. My very first experience of reading a report about an event I had witnessed cured me of taking news stories seriously even though all the paper did was to caption an obviously-posed portrait as if the three of us had just happened to meet on purely-decorative steps, and the photographer had just happened to be there. The most irritating story I remember was about a group ride sponsored by my bicycle club. An astounding number of people can't distinguish a group ride from a race, so the publicity chairman gave the reporter a long song-and-dance about the distinction. The reporter began his story by repeating the "this in not a race" explanation verbatim. And the very next line after that paragraph began "The race begins at . . ." -- Joy Beeson http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Re: Color Theory and Thread Conservation
Top posting because I didn't snip: When I mentioned old machine needles in my pincushion post, I left out a few details. I store old machine needles in the cone, not the thread. A paper-mache' cone of cheap, weak thread hangs point-down in the window, and the base of it is beat-up enough to be soft and a good place to stick coarse needles. And yes, I know what the sun is doing to the thread. All my good threads are in dark drawers or the boxes that they came in. -- Joy Beeson http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. On 1/12/17 1:46 PM, jeria...@aol.com wrote: Someone, please share this from another ISP, since we've been told AOL and Comcast do not play well together! 1. Color theory taught by embroidery and photography experts includes an explanation of what happens when a black and white photo is made of something that relies on color for impact. Colors of the same value will not show details that may be important to a design. This effect is apparent if you just put red and green of the same value next to each other (as Joy mentions), walk across the room, and squint at them. An understanding of this is of importance to anyone who is making colored lace. If your lace work is going to be photographed, you should understand colors, and visually test them side-by-side before you even begin a project. Americans who belong to IOLI can better understand this by propping up the newest bulletin (Fall 2016, Vol. 37, Number 1), with Janet Blair's lace peacock, and stepping back to view it. She has used 3 blues for the body, and used one of those blues as spots on the green tail. You can see how important the yellow outlining blue spots is. Imagine if this lovely lace was meant to be photographed in black and white! 2. Conservation warning to anyone who is using a spool of thread as a make-shift pin cushion. A long time ago, I wrote to Arachne about sticking needles in a spool of thread, in response to a magazine photograph many lacemakers might have seen. This damages thread throughout a spool or cone enough that thread may break or be weakened throughout layers wherever it has been pierced. This is a habit that can get away from you - perhaps putting needles or pins in thread that will be used at some future time to make lace or sew a seam. The weak spots will be the first to "self destruct", and none of us like to repair lace or re-sew seams. (You may use this cautionary tip in your guild newsletters.) Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center - In a message dated 1/11/2017 6:31:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, joybee...@comcast.net writes: ...Even on a green curtain, red isn't as conspicuous a color as people thinkone has to know it's there to see it at all, and then it's only a vague smudge. This has a single sewing machine needle stuck in it, so I think it was intended to store spent machine needles, butI stick those into my cone of basting thread. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Re: Pincushion
All my experience with pincushions is for sewing. For that, I switched to a magnetic pin dish decades ago, but magnets wouldn't do at all for lace: you can't pin a dish to a pillow, the delicate pins would be damaged when the magnet grabbed them and jammed them in with the others, brass pins need not apply, I was forced to switch to big-headed pins in order to use the dish, and despite the large heads I fumble a bit at getting the pins out. Getting two or three when I wanted one is no problem with sewing pins, but would be intolerable when making lace -- and lacemakers are not at all impressed with being able to set the dish on the floor and drop pins onto it from a height. I have three pincushions made by rolling wool scraps tightly and overcasting the end down, and one made by simply folding a scrap of wool and pinning it to the curtain. That last holds two doll needles and -- so that is where my hatpin got to! It also holds other oddball needles and pins. Two of the rolled pincushions are nailed to the wall so that I can hang pressing cloths by stabbing T-pins through them. The third, I didn't notice until I walked to the window to inspect the folded pincushion. Even on a green curtain, red isn't as conspicuous a color as people think; from here, one has to know it's there to see it at all, and then it's only a vague smudge. This has a single sewing machine needle stuck in it, so I think it was intended to store spent machine needles, but I stick those into my cone of basting thread now. (I use spent machine needles whenever I need an extra-thin nail and brads aren't long enough.) There is also a stray hand-sewing needle in it -- I store hand-sewing needles by pinning the packet to the curtain, pinning a scrap of wool to the packet, and sticking used needles into the wool. And there's a T-pin, but that is securing it to the curtain. I have a couple of pin cushions made by stuffing a scrap of wool cloth into the hole of a spool of hand-sewing thread; I wish I knew how I got the middle of the scrap to stick out as a neat, hard dome. And when I use a scrap to shim a bobbin-holder onto a spool of machine-sewing thread, I sometimes use wool or silk and leave a corner big enough to stick a hand needle into sticking out. I have a fifty-year-old pincushion stuffed with my own hair. I think I made it by overcasting two pieces of embroidered real felt together with darning wool, but it might be H2O flannel; it has since been slipcovered with black wool, so I can't look. When first made, it was nearly spherical and the cat loved to bat it around; one morning she left it beside the bed upside down, and I stepped on it with a bare foot. That really wakes one up! One day after squeezing and squeezing to find a needle that had slipped completely inside, I flattened it by stitching through it, probably with darning wool. I don't know whether to call it quilting or soft sculpture. This also made it firmer. Today it is pinned to the curtain to keep my pearl-head pins (something like divider pins) handy. Since the pins occupy only the upper edge of the cushion, a packet of tidy pins and some other special pins have accumulated on the lower half of the cushion. -- Joy Beeson http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Arachne Flickr page
On 1/2/17 11:20 AM, Sue Babbs wrote:
I am surprised that you have to change to plain text only
as I can post HTML messages without a problem.
It could be that his HTML converter is changing his commands
to something that Majordomo doesn't recognize.
When I viewed the source of your message, the only editing
your mailer had done was to replace two of your punctuation
marks with groups of non-ASCII characters ("’" and "–"),
but machine-generated HTML code often looks like dog vomit.
Oops! I also didn't find any HTML codes. That particular
message is in plain text.
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[lace-chat] Switchel: was: Weather: was: help
On 8/4/16 11:34 AM, Joy Beeson wrote: Switchel is an eighteenth-century hayhand's drink consisting of ginger, molasses, vinegar, and optional oatmeal. I substitute honey and freshly-squeezed lemon juice for the molasses and vinegar. I looked up "switchel" in the O.E.D. (I once forgot the name of the Oxford English Dictionary, and the librarian directed me straight to it when I held my hands as far apart as I could. My copy is a single huge volume, but I need three magnifiers to read it.) It appears that molasses is the defining ingredient: O.E. D. says it's water with molasses in it, and sometimes ginger or vinegar. But I think I'm justified in continuing to use the word for my molasses-free version. In the first place, it also said that switchel was weak tea served to sailors between meals. One of the quotes called it "wretched" and says that the same leaves were boiled over and over, with a little fresh tea added on rare occasions. I deduce (from almost no evidence) that the sailors were being served boiled water with just enough tea to color it so that you wouldn't drink unboiled water by mistake. After reading that, I think the defining characteristic is that switchel is a beverage served to people who sweat a lot. In the second place, that entry is a couple of centuries out of date, and doesn't include any American usage. In some American dialects, "switchel" contains oatmeal, and in some it doesn't. -- Joy Beeson http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace-chat] Re: Switchel
On 8/5/16 5:38 PM, Liz Roberts wrote: I think I will mix and match your "recipe" with some of my own ideas and see what I can come up with. Thanks! If all you want is to cover up the taste of the water, anything goes. (Well, lead acetate is a bad idea even though I'm told that it tastes good.) I haven't tried lemon balm, but mint makes better tea if you dry it first. On the other hand, the boiled-leaf flavor of fresh mint has its own charms. One thing I like to do is to put basil prunings into the pitcher of water I keep in the fridge. One year I acquired a "cinnamon basil" plant, and that was particularly good. With the extreme heat forcing me to spend a lot of attention on switchel, I'm way behind on pruning the basil and it's gone to seed. On the other hand, the flowering heads are good in ice water. I've also put it in bottles taken to long events; after re-filling the bottle, I give it a vigorous shake to bruise the basil and release more flavor. Basil flowers in a clear bottle sometimes attract admiring comment. -- Joy Beeson http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace-chat] Re: Quote Source
On 8/5/16 3:42 PM, Adele Shaak wrote: "I'm sorry this letter is so long; I didn't have time to make it short." (Now I'll spend the rest of the day wondering who I'm quoting.) — The Internet tells me the source was a letter by Blaise Pascal in 1657. Huh. I could have sworn it was Churchill. I'm sure Churchill said it too. I didn't think it went back that far. But the farther back you go, the more sense it makes: writing materials are more expensive, and re-writing takes more work. David Friedman often says that even though he had more than one book in print at the time, his first experience of writing with a word processor convinced him that it was impossible to write a book without one. (I also took to word processing as a duck takes to water.) When I was reading "The Wealth of Nations", I heartily wished several times that Smith had had a typewriter; I hadn't heard of word processors at the time. -- Joy Beeson http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace-chat] Switchel
On 8/4/16 4:31 PM, Liz Roberts wrote: What is your recipe? It's ad hoc. The first batch, I used water in which I'd boiled "a field blend of black and mahogany" rice to make an orzo salad. (I thought rice would be better than orzo.) This was dark enough to make you think I'd put in a *lot* of molasses. I used three tablespoons of dried ginger to a quart, and put the juice of two lemons into a twenty-ounce bottle. (I've no idea why the American bicycle bottle standardized on a British pint.) That was way too much, and the juice of half a lemon was too little, so I use one lemon per bottle now. These are small lemons; I cut off and threw away the label when opening the bag last July, so I don't know what variety. (I needed one lemon for the fireworks party, and had to buy a whole bag to get it -- which I didn't mind because I made some wonderful lemon marmalade last year, but it turns out that these lemons -- all but one -- keep forever.) Then I scored a piece of fresh ginger root at Marsh, and figured I'd make candied ginger and use the boiling-out-the-bite water for switchel. I sliced up the ginger for candied ginger and poured honey over it in the hope that that would preserve it until I got around to using it. So far that's worked quite well; I take honey off the ginger to sweeten the switchel (and my breakfast cereal) and pour more honey in. I boiled one of the slices with my oatmeal one morning, and changed my mind about candying it: boiled ginger has a delightful tender, crisp texture for eating straight -- but it needs to have more of the bite boiled out. Then I ground up the trimmings and peels in a pint of water with a stick blender. Nicely zingy, and I seasoned the switchel with that until it was gone, then I added a heaping tablespoon of oatmeal and boiled the ground ginger peels. This was nearly as zingy as the raw extract, so I strained it into a quart jar and boiled a second quart of water. This wasn't quite strong enough, so I booped it up with first-boiling water: I poured an undetermined amount of first-boiling into a bottle, added enough second-boiling to make the bottle about a quarter full, squeezed a lemon into it and dropped the peel into my bottle of ice water (the most flavor seems to stay in the pulp), added a teaspoon or two of ginger honey (which is thin enough to dissolve in a beverage) and froze it overnight. Just before leaving, I'd fill the bottle with second-boiling water. When the second-boiling water was gone, I boiled my breakfast oatmeal with an extra quart of water, and continued much the same drill with more first-boiling water, except that last time I put the spent peel into the oatmeal water. And when the first boiling is finally gone, I'll try the original plan. Since the idea is to get lots of it inside, judge your quantities by what tastes good. But go easy on the sweet; when you are hot and dry, sweet drinks are disgusting; put in just enough to make it not sour. When my route allows, I'll fill up the bottle with water-cooler water when it's about half gone. Well, that's partly because a basic rule of survival on a bike is "never carry an empty bottle away from a source of drinking water". -- Hey! There's my next Aunt Granny column! Short and to the point. (So I hared off to write it. Needs a decent subject line, but it will probably hang around in the buffer for weeks.) I also carry switchel concentrate in my insulated pannier: a four-ounce container in which I have frozen ginger water, the juice of one lemon, and a couple of teaspoons of ginger honey. I was concerned at first because the containers are bigger around than the necks of my bottles, but by the time I've drunk up the first bottle and the bottle of tea, the ice is soft and easy to break up with my pocket knife. On yesterday's trip to Mentone, I saved the concentrate for the trip back, and it had melted entirely. (I should have carried *two* zipper sandwich bags of ice cubes. (Small plastic bags pack more efficiently, and the melted ice is easy to pour out of the corner of the bag into a bottle.)) This is somewhat incoherent, but it's time to weed the garden. "I'm sorry this letter is so long; I didn't have time to make it short." (Now I'll spend the rest of the day wondering who I'm quoting.) -- Joy Beeson http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where we *might* get a little rain this afternoon. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace-chat] Re: Weather: was: help
On 8/3/16 12:53 PM, Malvary Cole wrote: Malvary in Ottawa where it is very hot again today (very hot being relative - others probably have it much hotter) and I'm dripping perspiration having just got home from playing a 12-end lawn bowls game. I'm just now drying out from having been outside long enough to carry a plate of garbage to the compost heap. Harrumph! The weather station says it's only 78.4 F out there. But *its* thermometer is in the shade. Shade temperatures were in the nineties a week or two back, which is unusual for northern Indiana. Whenever I checked the weather, I got a "dangerously hot" warning and had to page down for the details. My brother-in-law told me that he'd stopped playing tennis, but I kept on cycling. However hot it is, it's not too bad with a ten-mile-an-hour wind. (But when I stop, sproing!) When you ride a bike, the universal farewell from strangers is "be careful!"; that week it changed to "drink water!". I was mostly drinking tea and switchel; I have discovered that I can freeze switchel concentrate in half-cup containers and boop up water I've picked up along the way. Switchel is an eighteenth-century hayhand's drink consisting of ginger, molasses, vinegar, and optional oatmeal. I substitute honey and freshly-squeezed lemon juice for the molasses and vinegar. A little starch in a drink helps it get from the bowels into the blood stream, and ginger keeps the cold water from upsetting the stomach. I think the sweet and the sour are just to make it taste better, but I *have* found that lemon water -- after squeezing a lemon, I put the spent peel into ice water -- goes down faster than plain water. -- Joy Beeson http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where it's sunny and clear, the corn is stressed, and the beans are starting to feel it. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace-chat] Re: [lace] email problems.
On 3/15/16 9:39 PM, Elizabeth Ligeti wrote: . . . . I am one of the strange people Not on Facebook, so I am glad of Arachne to keep me in touch with everyone. I am on Facebook, and find it useless for keeping in touch even though several people I know refuse to communicate in any other way. Crossposted to Chat because this post is off-topic for Lace. -- Joy Beeson http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] email problems.
On 3/15/16 9:39 PM, Elizabeth Ligeti wrote: . . . . I am one of the strange people Not on Facebook, so I am glad of Arachne to keep me in touch with everyone. I am on Facebook, and find it useless for keeping in touch even though several people I know refuse to communicate in any other way. Crossposted to Chat because this post is off-topic for Lace. -- Joy Beeson http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace-chat] Lacemakers and Tatters in Severe Weather Areas
On 12/30/15 6:51 AM, Sue Duckles wrote: I hope that all our lacy friends in the severe weather areas both in the UK and worldwide are not badly affected by the floods, tornadoes, winds etc. The Nipsco power-outage map of Northern Indiana had measles Monday, but all we had here was flickering and nasty driving. -- Joy Beeson http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where it's gloomy but dry and I'm going for a long walk. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] pillow infestation
When exploring our newest big-box store, I was astounded to discover that the ice displays near the exit included one that dispensed dry ice! I was so impressed that one could get dry ice from a vending machine that I didn't notice how much it cost. I'd wager that putting an infested item into an air-tight container, dropping in a piece of dry ice, and leaving it closed for a few days would do the trick. Until the eggs hatch and the mites hiding in other places hop over to take advantage of the vacant habitat. -- Joy Beeson http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Skein swift
On 11/5/15 11:19 PM, Elizabeth Ligeti wrote: When, on the rare occasions I have to wind a skein, I just put 2 chairs - kitchen chair types, - back to back, and then place the skein around the back of the chairs, and separate them, until the skein is firm around them. Then - wind, and wind, and wind...!! It is a cheap way out if you only have an occasional skein to wind. It also gets you some weight-bearing exercise on days when the weather is too nasty to go outside. (I unwind the skeins by walking around the chairs.) Once I needed to wind a skein of knitting yarn in a hotel room that was bereft of suitable chairs. I hung the skein on a doorknob, lifted off a few coils and laid them out zig-zag across the room, then wound my way back to the skein and lifted off a few more coils. -- Joy Beeson http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace-chat] maths question from a non mathematician
I missed the original post: Subject: [lace-chat] maths question from a non mathematician This has nothing to do with lace but I've seen this question answered before - when I didn't need the info. I have a magazine with patterns printed at 50% and 75% of full size. What size do I need to set a photocopier to get 100% of pattern size? It's ninth-grade algebra: (If the word "algebra" gives you brain-freeze, just read the part between dashed lines.) Let P be the percent by which the pattern in the publication has been enlarged or reduced. Let C be the percent at which you need to set your copier. Then P times C equals 100%: PC = 1 Divide both sides of the equation by P: C = 1/P - That is, you need to set the copier for the inverse of the change that you want to undo. - You can punch "1 divide P equals" on your calculator, but if the percentage happens to be a common fraction, you can just turn it upside down. 50% is 1/2, so to undo it, you use 2, which is 200%. (Remember that "per cent" means "divide by one hundred".) 75% is 3/4, so you would use 4/3, which is one and a third: 133.33% -- Joy Beeson http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace-chat] Trimming
The rule for trimming messages is the same everywhere: If you don't need it, don't quote it. Some contexts need more quoting than others. For example, business letters quote *everything*, because some of them are legal documents. (In the paper days, each business letter contained an identifier that would allow the reader to find his carbon copy of the letter that was being answered.) In social media, read the message you are about to send and ask yourself whether it would make sense to someone who hasn't just read the message you are answering. If it makes sense, send it. If it says me too!, rewrite it. If you can't tell which part of the quote your comment is responding to, trim the parts that you are not responding to. -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where it's sunny and warm and the rain that was supposed to spoil the festival didn't show. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace-chat] Challis! was Re: [lace] Wool for a bolster pillow?
On 5/20/15 2:52 PM, Susan wrote: . . . While wandering about the internet today, I found wool flannel wool challis. Where? For several years, I've been wanting to make five matching scarves as Christmas gifts, but searches for challis turn up nothing but rayon. Cross-posted to Chat, since this is very off-topic. -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Challis! was Re: [lace] Wool for a bolster pillow?
On 5/20/15 2:52 PM, Susan wrote: . . . While wandering about the internet today, I found wool flannel wool challis. Where? For several years, I've been wanting to make five matching scarves as Christmas gifts, but searches for challis turn up nothing but rayon. Cross-posted to Chat, since this is very off-topic. -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace-chat] Cycling: was: Re: [lace] Learning Bobbin Lace
Cleaning the out box: Hoo, boy, is *this* an old one! On 10/21/13 12:45 PM, Lyn Bailey wrote: There are two skills I have which I couldn't learn on my own from a book. Riding a bicycle and hand spinning on a spinning wheel. I did learn bicycling from a book -- _Effective Cycling_ by John Forester. Though he's the son of C.S. Forester, John Forester is not a good writer, and most people offer later works to beginners. (If you want to advance, you do need to plow through the compendium.) _Street Smarts_ is a condensed booklet that's very good for an introduction, and _Cyclecraft_ is the British equivalent of _Effective Cycling_. There is a _Cyclecraft North American Edition_, but I've yet to get my hands on a copy. (And, alas, it's still true that I haven't seen the North American edition.) -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace-chat] Re: [lace] weather
Moved from Lace On 1/8/15 3:49 PM, Lorelei Halley wrote: Just for fun -- it is 6 degrees F or -14 centigrade here in Chicago today. It is also snowing. Usually, around here, it only snows when the temperature is above 20 F. Tomorrow it will be only 2 F. I don't mind temps above 20F, but this kind of cold is scary. Minneapolis is much worse. Lorelei I hates to hear folks in Chicago say things like that, because weather comes right down US 30 to Warsaw. Current conditions Temp 9.0 F, Hum 88%, Baro: 30.02 in. Falling, Wind WSW 11 mph, Rain 0.00 in Peak Gust 14 mph at 1:50 am, SR 8:07 am , SS 5:30 pm, inside temperature 77.5 F, H 30%. And everything but the time at the bottom stayed the same while I typed all that. So I see that things aren't much worse in Chicago. I haven't set foot outside all day, not even to balance myself while I emptied the cat's dry-food bowl onto the patio. (I dump the cat-food crumbs in front of a low window so the cat can watch critters come to eat them.) On reading the fine print, I see that our low today was -8.1F. Wind is now SE 3 mph. When I could last see out, snow was coming down, so I can't see why rain registers zero. Just asked DH -- he said snow can't get into the rain gauge. We used to have an official rain gauge that you took the funnel out of, then brought in, thawed, and poured into a graduated cylinder. -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Darning: was: Simple needlelace question
On 11/22/14 12:50 PM, lacel...@frontier.com wrote: . . . . That might be one reason the stitch was developed that works across the row, then returns with a straight line back to the start, then the next row of stitches overlaps the straight row. It makes a more solid fill stitch and all the stitches are alike. This would soothe the soul of the person who has to have everything lined up neatly. However, by the time an area is worked over and back until filled, then threads all blend together and the very slight difference between the two directional stitches is not noticed. When I'm working needle lace on the heel of a stocking, stranding back makes the work go faster because stitches with yarn inside take up more space, and because I'm always working in my favored direction. It makes the darn less elastic, so I don't use it except for plumping up thin middles etc. I do work over any stabilizing yarns I've thrown across the hole. Sometimes I'll weave guide threads that are unsecured on both ends, so that they can pull back inside the stitches when the stocking is stretched, across a weak place. These are usually silk to promote slippage, so they make little difference to the size of the stitches, but they make it a lot easier to keep the rows straight and avoid puckering. -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where the lake-effect snow didn't stick. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Salamander group
On 8/28/14 2:55 PM, AGlez wrote: [snip] What do you think of this? I'm not interested in making the salamander, but I've been greatly interested in the discussion of it. I agree that attempting to keep all salamander postings in one thread will make the discussion easier to read -- and easier to avoid for those not interested. -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace-chat] Re: Old Testament computing
On 8/15/14 9:57 PM, Martha Krieg wrote: Just last Friday, returned from 10 days in the Middle Ages at the Pennsic Wars with my daughter and her family and about 10,350 other people... Oh, that sounds like fun. Did Cariadoc conduct a bardic circle? -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Beginner's Bruges Duchesse or Bruges Flower lace
Another approach is to make worm bandages out of very coarse thread that quickly adds up to something. My Compact Oxford English Dictionary has a bookmark that is a long strip of cloth stitch made of three colors of Knit-Cro-Sheen, with white bedspread cotton for the passives. The footsides are very untidy because Knit-Cro-Sheen is twisted the wrong way. The units of measurement in The Handbook of Chemistry and Physics are marked by a fringe which, when pulled, reveals a bedspread-cotton bookmark like the one in the OED, but nicely made and only six inches long. I once braided strings for a pair of crocheted booties, which, with the aid of four bobbins, was less tedious than crocheting them. -- Joy reflexes of a plant Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Ethics and the internet
Legally, Heaven only knows. There's probably a law against crossing the street. Morally, if you give as much provenance as you've got, and state that it's incomplete and open to correction, that's all any reasonable person could expect. -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Re: Long Live Lace!
On 1/24/14 7:16 PM, Noelene Lafferty wrote: Sorry about the line spacing on my poem, I typed it in in text mode and it looked OK my end, but the internet machinery has got rid of some but not all line breaks. If anyone wants a properly spaced out version, please email me direct. It appeared properly spaced on Thunderbird 1.5.0.14, which is running on Windows 98. Cross-posted to Chat. -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where I'm icy-streeted in. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Test response to Re: Long Live Lace!
This is the second time I've cross-posted to Lace and Chat and the post appeared in only one group. If my theory as to why the post below my sig appeared only in Chat is correct, this one will return to me and not appear on either group On 1/25/14 9:57 AM, Joy Beeson wrote: On 1/24/14 7:16 PM, Noelene Lafferty wrote: Sorry about the line spacing on my poem, I typed it in in text mode and it looked OK my end, but the internet machinery has got rid of some but not all line breaks. If anyone wants a properly spaced out version, please email me direct. It appeared properly spaced on Thunderbird 1.5.0.14, which is running on Windows 98. Cross-posted to Chat. -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace-chat] Re: Long Live Lace!
On 1/24/14 7:16 PM, Noelene Lafferty wrote: Sorry about the line spacing on my poem, I typed it in in text mode and it looked OK my end, but the internet machinery has got rid of some but not all line breaks. If anyone wants a properly spaced out version, please email me direct. It appeared properly spaced on Thunderbird 1.5.0.14, which is running on Windows 98. Cross-posted to Chat. -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where I'm icy-streeted in. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace-chat] Test response to Re: Long Live Lace!
This is the second time I've cross-posted to Lace and Chat and the post appeared in only one group. If my theory as to why the post below my sig appeared only in Chat is correct, this one will return to me and not appear on either group On 1/25/14 9:57 AM, Joy Beeson wrote: On 1/24/14 7:16 PM, Noelene Lafferty wrote: Sorry about the line spacing on my poem, I typed it in in text mode and it looked OK my end, but the internet machinery has got rid of some but not all line breaks. If anyone wants a properly spaced out version, please email me direct. It appeared properly spaced on Thunderbird 1.5.0.14, which is running on Windows 98. Cross-posted to Chat. -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] some comments about the list
cross-posted to Chat for lack of lace content. On 1/1/14 12:14 AM, Marianne Gallant wrote: I do realize that 'reply to all' would reply to both the poster as well as the list, but.that is not an automatic reaction, when you are used to just hitting reply. Not only that, some email programs are not set up to reply to all. I have yet to find that option in Thunderbird, though it is obvious in Outlook. Thunderbird has just reply, forward or archiveuh, I guess I just found it in Thunderbird, it is in the drop down list of the message menu, not very obvious In Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (20071210), I hit R while holding down control to reply to all. . . . I don't want to get into the habit of hitting 'reply to all', too many serious problems have been caused by habits like that I have gotten into the habit of hitting reply all *and then cleaning up the address list* because it changes you wrote to Joe Blow wrote. Identifying the person to whom I am replying is often useful --many messages sent to me are sent from shared addresses-- and never a problem. -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. Where snow is falling and it's a good day to catch up on e-mail. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Needlelace Designs Techniques - PRINT ON DEMAND!
Cross-posted to Chat, where replies should be sent. On 10/16/13 7:38 AM, Catherine Barley wrote: However, I have no wish to be left with a pile of books in my dining room that are surplus to requirements, What print on demand means is that they print, bind, and ship one copy of the book each time someone orders one. This makes the book more expensive than books printed in large numbers, but not as expensive as a book would have to be to cover the risk of being stuck with a thousand copies. If all goes well, once the final proof has been approved, you need do nothing other than let people know where the book can be purchased, and maybe deposit the occasional small check. But there are a lot of incompetents and scammers in the field, and even the competent can be very difficult to deal with: for example, the PDF has to be prepared with exactly the correct PDF-making program, and which program that is constantly changes. There are people who make a career of learning the ins and outs of dealing with POD printers so that they can help people who want to publish only one book, but scammers and incompetents are even more prevalent in this field. I used to belong to a Yahoo mailing list for self-publishers and small-press publishers who would guide each other through the tangles, but the traffic was so high that I was obliged to drop out. -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace-chat] Re: [lace] Needlelace Designs Techniques - PRINT ON DEMAND!
Cross-posted to Chat, where replies should be sent. On 10/16/13 7:38 AM, Catherine Barley wrote: However, I have no wish to be left with a pile of books in my dining room that are surplus to requirements, What print on demand means is that they print, bind, and ship one copy of the book each time someone orders one. This makes the book more expensive than books printed in large numbers, but not as expensive as a book would have to be to cover the risk of being stuck with a thousand copies. If all goes well, once the final proof has been approved, you need do nothing other than let people know where the book can be purchased, and maybe deposit the occasional small check. But there are a lot of incompetents and scammers in the field, and even the competent can be very difficult to deal with: for example, the PDF has to be prepared with exactly the correct PDF-making program, and which program that is constantly changes. There are people who make a career of learning the ins and outs of dealing with POD printers so that they can help people who want to publish only one book, but scammers and incompetents are even more prevalent in this field. I used to belong to a Yahoo mailing list for self-publishers and small-press publishers who would guide each other through the tangles, but the traffic was so high that I was obliged to drop out. -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Tatting update
On 9/17/13 12:27 PM, C Johnson wrote: I taught my left handed friend to use the tatting shuttle. My theory is, tatting is a two handed operation anyway. So just do it like I am, and Cheryl learned without any trouble ... One day I decided to test that theory by tatting left-handed. It didn't work -- my left hand got on just fine holding the shuttle, but I couldn't persuade my right hand to manage the thread. I think all us right-handers are doing it backward. -- Joy Beeson http://www.debeeson.net/joy http://www.debeeson.net/LakeCam/LakeCam.html west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Lace story
On 9/2/13 8:14 AM, Nathalie wrote: I know there is a story about Blonde lace. A Princess was captured in a castle and made lace from her very long Blonde hair to escape. Does anyone has an image, drawing, photo of this story? I have been looking on the internet. But to no avail. Is someone able to direct me to a drawing/pic or image? It sounds like a comparatively-recent literary work to me. If you have Usenet access, try rec.arts.sf.written. They play a game called Yet Another Story Identification. r.a.sf.w. has lost its scorekeeper, but still enjoys an occasional round of YASID. To start a round, re-post the above message with the subject line YASID: blonde princess escapes by making lace from hair. Then people compete to see who can first identify the story. YASID announces what sort of post it is; the rest of the line attracts the attention of people who might have a chance to win. If Google Groups is the only way you can post on Usenet, YASID also makes people fish the post out of the wastebasket. (GG does nothing to discourage spam, so many people filter out Google Groups posts.) But access through GG is intermittent at best, and posts sent from there are often mangled, so use another gate if you have one. If you like, I'm willing to post to r.a.sf.c., copy the responses to Chat, and copy Chat responses to the Usenet thread. -- Joy Beeson http://www.debeeson.net/joy http://www.debeeson.net/LakeCam/LakeCam.html west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace-chat] Prawn Puzzle
On 8/8/13 3:56 AM, Jean Nathan wrote: Well Joy's message came through complete so I don't know why none of the three I sent included the punch line. Very strange. I had to edit out a lot of stray paragraph breaks. Perhaps there was also a comment code in the original file? It can't have been a nanny-bot; they are so simple-minded that Yahoo keeps marking How to Design Your Own Sewing Patterns as porn. (Oddly, the bra-design Yahoo list hasn't had any problems.) Another joke: one day I was ego-scanning with DuckDuckGo and found _Rough Sewing_'s file on women's underwear listed in an index to porn sites. The folks who use the index must be terribly disappointed that it's a text file. -- Joy Beeson http://www.debeeson.net/joy http://www.debeeson.net/LakeCam/LakeCam.html west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where good ash firewood is a drug on the market. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace-chat] Testing:
TWO PRAWNS Far away in the tropical waters of the Caribbean , two prawns were swimming around in the sea, one called Justin and the other called Christian. The prawns were constantly being harassed and threatened by sharks that inhabited the area. One day Justin said to Christian, 'I'm fed up with being a prawn; I wish I was a shark, and then I wouldn't have any worries about being eaten.' A large mysterious cod appeared and said, 'Your wish is granted' Lo and behold, Justin turned into a shark. Horrified, Christian immediately swam away, afraid of being eaten by his old mate. Time passed (as it does) and Justin found life as a shark boring and lonely. All his old mates swam away whenever he came close to them. Justin didn't realize that his new menacing appearance was the cause of his sad plight. While swimming alone one day he saw the mysterious cod again. He approached the cod and begged to be changed back, and, lo and behold, He found himself turned back into a prawn. With tears of joy in his tiny little eyes Justin swam back to his friends and bought them all a cocktail. (The punch line does not involve a prawn cocktail - it's much worse). Looking around the gathering at the reef he realized that he couldn't see his old pal. 'Where's Christian?' he asked. 'He's at home, still distraught that his best friend changed sides to the enemy became a shark', came the reply. Eager to put things right again and end the mutual pain and torture, he set off to Christian's abode. As he opened the coral gate, memories came flooding back. He banged on the door and shouted, 'It's me, Justin, your old friend, come out and see me again.' Christian replied, 'No way man, you'll eat me. You're now a shark, the enemy, and I'll not be tricked into being your dinner.' Justin cried back 'No, I'm not. That was the old me. I've changed.'. (You're going to love this . or not) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . I've found Cod and I'm a prawn again, Christian...!!! -- Joy Beeson To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Tatting
On 8/2/13 8:23 AM, Sue wrote: If I choose to work a tatting pattern which has beans in without, do I replace each bead with a double stitch? (this particular one I am looking at is a string of beads in place of the chain loop between rings. Depends on the pattern, and on how the bead is attached. Some, just ignore the instructions to add beads, some replace the bead with a picot. Here, where you are replacing a string of beads with a chain, compare the size of a double stitch with the size of the bead you're not putting in, and calculate how many ds you need. In most of my patterns, the chain loops have the same number of ds as the chains. Statement made without checking; Could be half the number -- it's been years since I burrowed down to the simple edging in my go-bag. Chain loops can vary quite a lot without forcing the edge to curl. I'm wondering how the second thread is carried to the other end of the string of beads -- or, alternatively, where you are getting the second thread to make a chain loop. If only one thread is available, you can work small rings nose-to-tail with the thread carried behind. http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/~joybeeson/TAT/TATEX03.HTM Another expedient used in pre-chain patterns is to pick up a hook and crochet a chain. -- Joy Beeson http://www.debeeson.net/joy http://www.debeeson.net/LakeCam/LakeCam.html west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace-chat] Re: Caring for needles
On 7/21/13 1:48 PM, Sue wrote: . . . they look rusty at the point where they stick through the cloth so not something I would use to sew with, particularly not lace. I used to have some steel fur -- a very fine steel wool used for smoothing between coats of varnish on fine fishing rods. This did a good job of cleaning needles: just pinch a bit of it and push the needle back and forth through it. (It was inadvertently thrown out during a move.) . . . . But of course I want to keep them in good condition so I can use them when I want to and wonder how best to do that. Any advice would be welcome. My mother was sewing in the kitchen one day and stuck a needle into a linen curtain. When she remembered it, it had rusted so badly that she couldn't get it out of the curtain. The needles in my grandmother's housewife http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/~roughsewing/HOUSEWF.HTM are also so rusty that I've never made any attempt to remove them, but those may have had a century to rust in place. Cotton and linen are very good at pulling moisture out of the air. This makes them cool to wear in the summer, but an absolute menace to needles. Linen is particularly good/bad. Back when craft felt was made of real wool, I made a needlebook in the shape of a book, which I thought frightfully clever. The largest needles are slipped under rows of mending-wool embroidery arranged to look like writing. Some needles have been stuck in the book ever since; the book didn't turn out to be as useful as I thought it would be, and whenever I want a needle I go to the curtain in the sewing room. No needle has rusted in the all-wool book. I made my pincushion of wool stuffed with my own hair, and make it a habit, when I want to store a single needle, to stick it into a snippet of red wool flannel. (Red so I can find it -- and because that's what I've got otherwise- useless snippets of.) I've also stuck needles in snippets of silk, and haven't yet gotten into trouble that way, but have less experience to go on. I wanted to keep a large needle with a spool of coarse thread, and stuffed a scrap of wool flannel into the hole, somehow creating a neat little dome to stick the needle into. For an emergency kit, a tiny glass test-tube with an air-tight cork might be a good idea if you can find one. -- Joy Beeson http://www.debeeson.net/joy http://www.debeeson.net/LakeCam/LakeCam.html west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace-chat] Lace and vision
One of my eyes was blind entirely after a flaw in my retina filled it up with blood. I had emergency appointments with three different doctors(come prepared to go on); the third welded it, and now I don't even have to have it inspected twice a year; my current ophthalmologist regards it as an old scar of not much interest. It took a long time for the floaters to go away, but they went. It was interesting because I'd been *very* right-eyed and couldn't break the habit of putting telescopes and magnifying glasses to the blind eye! Experiment with different kinds of light; some find that bright light that constricts the pupils helps, some find that dim light to open up the pupils helps you see around the floaters. Different temperatures of light matter. (Sometimes light is measured by the temperature of the black body that would emit light of that color.) I see best in natural light, but bright incandescent will do. I find CFL light impossible; for some reason, no matter how bright it is, it just won't focus and I can't even read a newspaper that I can read easily in the dim light of sunset. I once heard of someone who can see sharply only in monochromic green light. I presume that his eyes have chromatic aberration, and green is the color to which human eyes are most sensitive. Sometimes I prefer red light, but filtered incandescent will do -- lucky, because LEDs in colors other than blue-white and mock-white are impossible to find. I get a lot of use out of plain old dollar-store reading glasses, strength 3.5, which I wear over my prescription glasses -- Joy Beeson http://www.debeeson.net/joy http://www.debeeson.net/LakeCam/LakeCam.html west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where the lake is almost down to normal, but the asparagus bed is still soggy. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Calling all lace authors
On 5/25/13 7:38 AM, Jane Partridge wrote: Would a pdf saved on a read-only cd format work? There must be protective software available otherwise the coupon sites that restrict you to one or two printouts wouldn't work. That's called DRM, Digital Rights Management, and it has been proven to annoy legitimate users of the works while providing hardly any inconvenience to pirates, who can easily break the lock and make as many copies as they please. People who own legitimate copies of DRMed work have been known to buy pirated editions too, to get a DRM-free version. -- Joy Beeson http://www.debeeson.net/joy http://www.debeeson.net/LakeCam/LakeCam.html west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace-chat] E-books
E-books sound like a great idea, and I wish they had been available when my mother's sight was fading, but if a reader can't read a plain-ASCII file with no fuss or feathers or conversion or special app, I consider it Still Not Available. -- Joy Beeson http://www.debeeson.net/joy http://www.debeeson.net/LakeCam/LakeCam.html west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where it's sunny and cool. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace-chat] Re-assurance Please .....
Gratuitous advice: when you get out of rehab and the prescribed exercises have gotten too easy, sign up at a weight-lifting place. Pick one where athletes work out -- the staff will be accustomed to helping people who are working at the edge of their ability, and will know how to work out without getting hurt. Avoid like the plague any studio with decorative mirror tile instead of plain full-length mirrors for checking your form. (Good form is *very* important.) Also avoid any place where the guy who shows you around gets confused and has to start over if you interrupt his spiel. Nautilus was best when I did it twenty or thirty years ago: the machines are designed so that you can push right to the edge without going over. Of course, you can hurt yourself if you don't engage brain -- when the coach tells you to do only one repeat with an absurdly-low weight the first time you use the calf machine, believe him! -- Joy Beeson http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace-chat] Peeps
On 5/1/13 9:10 AM, Sue Duckles wrote: Ok I give in what are S'mores??? A rather silly thing to do with a toasted marshmallow. When I go to that much trouble, I want to eat the marshmallow *plain*. (Not that I've toasted a marshmallow since before s'mores changed from cutesy to de rigueur. Sugar is bad for me when I'm not in the middle of a fifty-mile bike ride, and I consider twenty-five a major accomplishment these days.) Nowadays they actually eat the things inside the house! Made in a microwave yet. (Note: I did not write this until after seeing a serious answer posted.) -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://www.debeeson.net/LakeCam/LakeCam.html west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace-chat] Peeps
On 5/1/13 11:18 AM, Lesley Blackshaw wrote: and again . graham crackers? A graham cracker is a cookie passing itself off as health food. Dr. Graham promoted the idea of faking whole-grain flour by adding wheat germ and wheat bran to unbleached flour, and invented a cracker that became very popular after sugar was added to the recipe and the bran and wheat germ were reduced or eliminated. I have heard that digestive biscuits are somewhat similar. -- Joy Beeson west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where wild violets are in bloom. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace-chat] Twinkees
On 5/1/13 2:19 PM, Jean Nathan wrote: Now you can laugh at us. I wouldn't dare -- you might dig up one of *our* bomb-shelter designs. I don't recall any details, but I do recall my parents' derision -- fall-out shelter designs claimed to be good for two weeks of nuclear war, but none were any use for five minutes of tornado. Dad did suggest that a shelter that doubled as a root cellar would be a good idea, but I never heard of anybody building any shelter at all. For tornadoes, we went into the basement. On Palm Sunday (Wikipedia says it was 1965), one of my cousins was hit, and the family probably would have been killed if the storm hadn't dropped an old boxcar they had been using for storage into the cellar first, and that caught the other debris. Sometimes it bothers me that we can't have cellars in this neighborhood. (The water table is close to the surface. Last week swaths of my lawn were lower than the water table.) The daughter of a building contractor lives down the street in a house built by her father; it used a new-fangled construction method in which forms made of insulation are filled with re-inforced concrete, and he said it was tornado shelter all over. A summer cottage owned by my brother-in-law has a concrete storage shed built into the side of a hill, which he presumes was built as a storm cellar. -- Joy Beeson west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace-chat] Re: corned beef
On 4/29/13 3:56 AM, Jean Nathan wrote: If you try to make corned beef hash with our corned beef, you end up with a mush. I tried it before we realised that US corned beef isn't the stuff that comes in tins here, but is totally different. When using an American recipe we have to look up the internet to see what some of the ingredients are known to us as. I've never seen corned-beef hash that didn't come in tins. Canned corned-beef hash consists mostly of little half-centimeter cubes of potato stuck together with a puree of meat and tallow. Lately we've been buying reduced fat corned-beef hash, which is better. It's nicest if one cuts a slice and fries it crisp on both sides, but it's almost impossible to turn the slice without breaking it into crumbles. DH fries it to crunchy crumbles, scrapes them together into a flat pile a little bigger than a fried egg, breaks an egg on top, adds a teaspoon of water, and quickly covers it with the domed lid of one of my saucepans and steams it to the consistency of a poached egg. I generally fry it in crumbles until crisp, add chopped onion, and stir until translucent. Last time I didn't have the skillet hot enough to brown it, so I put in minced celery, steamed it until the celery was soft (the celery made its own steam), then stirred in onion and a couple of the little sweet peppers that have recently appeared in all the groceries. It's the first time I've been able to buy peppers that tasted like old-time pimentos in a supermarket; even the farmer's market has begun to sell the huge flavorless peppers we used to call mangos. I sure hope sweet mini peppers don't go away as mysteriously as they appeared. -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ http://www.debeeson.net/LakeCam/LakeCam.html west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where it's August out there! (When I said that to the clerk at the bread outlet, she said Last week it was December Then we both said that's Indiana!) To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Where Have All the Tatters Gone? (digitally)
On 4/17/13 11:36 AM, Karen Bovard wrote: 'Where have all the tatters gone!?' I've been wondering myself. I used to belong to a couple of tatters' mailing lists --e-tatters was one-- but I lost track of one, and the other outgrew the mailing list. It wasn't as bad as the big Knitlist, which had so many messages per day that I had to drop out because I didn't have time to delete them unread. (And I wonder where Knitlist went? Google turns up a few entities called Knitlist, but none match -- one is only ten years old!) But the tatting list was crowded enough that it had to move to a web forum, and I still don't know how to read a web forum. Not to mention that at the time nobody knew how to scale pictures, so posts didn't scroll, and when you clicked on view image, all you could see was one ring or maybe a clover. So gradually I stopped dropping in, and eventually forgot where it was. So the only tatters' group I still know of is TechTat http://groups.yahoo.com/group/technicaltatting/, a deliberately low-volume group that sometimes goes months without any of the members remembering that they belong. But there was a flurry of posts yesterday, about getting started in designing patterns. -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/~joybeeson/TAT/TATEX09.HTM http://www.debeeson.net/LakeCam/LakeCam.html west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] De not lurking
Cross-posted to Chat: pick one or the other if you reply. --- I have just rejoined after finally noticing that there hadn't been any traffic for a long time --and eventually getting around to looking into it-- so I'm probably a little off the wall. --- The first few messages that arrived appeared to be castigating lurkers for lurking -- I've always thought lurking a virtue (and find it a virtue that is very difficult to cultivate). Imagine a list where all thousand of us said Me too to every post! Every performance needs an audience; it's a pity there is no on-line way to sit quiet and look attentive. The situation was clarified when I read more messages, but I still want to say that Arachne should be a place where those who have something to say feel free to say it, and those who have nothing to say feel free to say *that*. We are all of us one or the other at times. --- Nearly everybody has a use for a square of lint-free cotton cloth. Big R and other box stores sell a large assortment of them, and I've made a lot of furoshikis -- 22 square if I make them from 45 fabric, but 24 square when that can be cut economically. Burrito-wrapping a sock-in-progress with its yarn and needles keeps things from getting dirty and tangled in my bag, and keeping a furoshiki or bandanna on my lap while waiting for something makes putting the work away when called a quick grab-and-stuff. I intend to iron one of the plain black furoshikis today. The dress I want to wear on Palm Sunday is very low in the neck -- not only is this neckline drafty, it looks ridiculous. A black neck scarf takes care of both problems. In a pinch, a 24 bandanna can be tied over my ears to keep them warm. (My head scarves are at least a yard square.) (Both bandanna sizes can be thought of as about a third of a meter, and a yard is almost a meter.) --- Long before 9/11, I ran a round robin (a letter forwarded from one reader to the next, with each recipient removing his old contribution and adding a new one: it was how we managed before e-mail made mailing lists possible.) The package nearly always failed to return if sent across a national border. --- I looked up piccalille and peccadillo in the Compact Oxford English Dictionary. All quotes spelling possibly inaccurate -- I needed both my sewing glasses and the magnifier that came with the O.E.D. to read the entry, so I'm not checking anything. Piccalille started out meaning a cutwork edging, then transferred to the collars and ruffs so edged, and ended up as a stiff support for a ruff! Peccadillo is a diminutive of the latin word for sin, and completely unrelated to piccalille. Me speculating: it seems obvious that pick and pike and piccador share an ancestor, since a piccador is one who pokes with a pike. --- On 3/20/13 1:04 PM, Bev Walker wrote: Just a thought about the fast pace of technology these days - it is possible that flash drives will be replaced by something else within two years? I just took a look at my Drive E, and there is a nice flat spot on the back where one could put a decal. And (as was later pointed out) decals can be put on anything with a patch of smooth surface. --- I will be left out of anything that requires Pay Pal. --- I scanned my Arachne pin and posted the file at http://www.joy.debeeson.net/HAT.JPG It isn't very clear, but I don't think my scanner can do much better. -- Joy Beeson http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ http://www.debeeson.net/LakeCam/LakeCam.html west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace-chat] De not lurking
Cross-posted to Chat: pick one or the other if you reply. --- I have just rejoined after finally noticing that there hadn't been any traffic for a long time --and eventually getting around to looking into it-- so I'm probably a little off the wall. --- The first few messages that arrived appeared to be castigating lurkers for lurking -- I've always thought lurking a virtue (and find it a virtue that is very difficult to cultivate). Imagine a list where all thousand of us said Me too to every post! Every performance needs an audience; it's a pity there is no on-line way to sit quiet and look attentive. The situation was clarified when I read more messages, but I still want to say that Arachne should be a place where those who have something to say feel free to say it, and those who have nothing to say feel free to say *that*. We are all of us one or the other at times. --- Nearly everybody has a use for a square of lint-free cotton cloth. Big R and other box stores sell a large assortment of them, and I've made a lot of furoshikis -- 22 square if I make them from 45 fabric, but 24 square when that can be cut economically. Burrito-wrapping a sock-in-progress with its yarn and needles keeps things from getting dirty and tangled in my bag, and keeping a furoshiki or bandanna on my lap while waiting for something makes putting the work away when called a quick grab-and-stuff. I intend to iron one of the plain black furoshikis today. The dress I want to wear on Palm Sunday is very low in the neck -- not only is this neckline drafty, it looks ridiculous. A black neck scarf takes care of both problems. In a pinch, a 24 bandanna can be tied over my ears to keep them warm. (My head scarves are at least a yard square.) (Both bandanna sizes can be thought of as about a third of a meter, and a yard is almost a meter.) --- Long before 9/11, I ran a round robin (a letter forwarded from one reader to the next, with each recipient removing his old contribution and adding a new one: it was how we managed before e-mail made mailing lists possible.) The package nearly always failed to return if sent across a national border. --- I looked up piccalille and peccadillo in the Compact Oxford English Dictionary. All quotes spelling possibly inaccurate -- I needed both my sewing glasses and the magnifier that came with the O.E.D. to read the entry, so I'm not checking anything. Piccalille started out meaning a cutwork edging, then transferred to the collars and ruffs so edged, and ended up as a stiff support for a ruff! Peccadillo is a diminutive of the latin word for sin, and completely unrelated to piccalille. Me speculating: it seems obvious that pick and pike and piccador share an ancestor, since a piccador is one who pokes with a pike. --- On 3/20/13 1:04 PM, Bev Walker wrote: Just a thought about the fast pace of technology these days - it is possible that flash drives will be replaced by something else within two years? I just took a look at my Drive E, and there is a nice flat spot on the back where one could put a decal. And (as was later pointed out) decals can be put on anything with a patch of smooth surface. --- I will be left out of anything that requires Pay Pal. --- I scanned my Arachne pin and posted the file at http://www.joy.debeeson.net/HAT.JPG It isn't very clear, but I don't think my scanner can do much better. -- Joy Beeson http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ http://www.debeeson.net/LakeCam/LakeCam.html west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] There's never enough room
On 5/29/12 12:27 PM, Diane Z wrote: . . . Why not encase a piece of plastic in cloth. And for plastic that you can pin through: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plastic_canvas -- Joy Beeson http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ http://www.debeeson.net/LakeCam/LakeCam.html west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where summer has begun. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] There's never enough room
On 5/28/12 12:11 AM, L.Snyder wrote: A ferrous metal bobbin will discolor your thread. Probably any metal bobbin will! Some kinds of stainless steel will stick to magnets. -- Joy Beeson http://www.debeeson.net/LakeCam/LakeCam.html west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where it's hot and we could use a little rain. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace-chat] Weird Characters: was: Fw: Handkerchief fabric (moved from Lace)
On 4/19/12 6:39 PM, Lyn Bailey wrote: Sorry, all, evidently the filters take all apostrophes and quotation marks and do weird things to them. Here it is without such marks. Please let me know if there is also a problem with question marks. I will try to do better. Weird characters are usually the result of reading text written with one standard with a reader set for a different standard. (Happens most often when something is pasted into a document that tells readers it's a different standard from the pasted-in stuff, but lots of writing programs default to a standard that very few reading programs can handle. Some use a proprietary standard that only that particular program can read.) Most standards in current use include plain old seven-bit ASCII -- which doesn't even have all the characters you need to write the American English it was created for, but there are work-arounds: ue for u-umlaut, co-operate for cooperate, and so forth. (The latter work-around took over when nineteenth-century typists got tired of hand-drawing the two little dots, and is now standard even in media where the old spelling would be easier.) But it can be hard to persuade a reads mail, reads news, browses, and cleans the kitchen sink program to write in ASCII, and even plain text is apt to be written in some private code. -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ http://n3f.home.comcast.net/ -- Writers' Exchange http://www.debeeson.net/LakeCam/LakeCam.html west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace] Re: Book Raffle -- Rosemary
Cool! After discovering that my filters had mis-filed some of the entries and moving the misplaced entries to the proper folder, I find that exactly fifty-two people want the book. Now where is that deck of cards? I'd have never found it if DH, who is a couple of inches taller hadn't spotted it on the top shelf of the hall closet. So I shuffled, asked him to pick one, he took the four of spades, which means the fourth entry that I received, and that is: Rosemary Darrah. Send me your address. -- Joy Beeson http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ http://www.debeeson.net/LakeCam/LakeCam.html west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where the redbud trees are still in blossom. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace-chat] Re: Book Raffle -- Rosemary
Cool! After discovering that my filters had mis-filed some of the entries and moving the misplaced entries to the proper folder, I find that exactly fifty-two people want the book. Now where is that deck of cards? I'd have never found it if DH, who is a couple of inches taller hadn't spotted it on the top shelf of the hall closet. So I shuffled, asked him to pick one, he took the four of spades, which means the fourth entry that I received, and that is: Rosemary Darrah. Send me your address. -- Joy Beeson http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ http://www.debeeson.net/LakeCam/LakeCam.html west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where the redbud trees are still in blossom. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace-chat] Forty Entries in Book Raffle
And one of the things that *didn't* turn up in the parlor cleaning is the set of polyhedral dice I bought at Shipshewana about ten years ago. (I last saw them on the piano.) I thought it a mistake to choose Friday the Thirteenth for the drawing instead of Good Friday, but I got another entry yesterday and two today. And I've been exactly as busy this weekend as I thought I'd be! I baked rye bread yesterday, and today when I got back from beating fourteen dozen eggs for tomorrow's breakfast service, I baked a loaf of buckwheat bread. -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ http://n3f.home.comcast.net/ -- Writers' Exchange http://www.debeeson.net/LakeCam/LakeCam.html west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where it's tulip season. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace] Book Raffle
We're getting a new carpet in the parlor, which has meant considerable upheaval among the books stored there. One of the things that turned up was a thin, library-bound copy of Old World Lace or A Guide for the Lace Lover by Clara M. Blum E.P. Dutton Co., New York Copyright 1920 Contents Introduction Laces of Italy Laces of Flanders Laces of France Laces of Spain Laces of England Laces of Ireland Glossary Grounds Index They tore out the card pocket before stamping discard, then wrote a price on the corner of the page; otherwise in excellent condition for an ex-library book, and only a little yellow. Send entries to joybeeson at comcast.net with the word raffle in the subject line. I'll draw names on Friday the thirteenth; there's a library book sale that day, so that cuts down on the dates I have to remember. -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ http://n3f.home.comcast.net/ -- Writers' Exchange http://www.debeeson.net/LakeCam/LakeCam.html west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where crocus are gone, daffodils have faded, hyacinths are fading, and redbuds and violets are at peak. (And we have a *lot* of redbuds in this end of town!) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace-chat] Book Raffle
We're getting a new carpet in the parlor, which has meant considerable upheaval among the books stored there. One of the things that turned up was a thin, library-bound copy of Old World Lace or A Guide for the Lace Lover by Clara M. Blum E.P. Dutton Co., New York Copyright 1920 Contents Introduction Laces of Italy Laces of Flanders Laces of France Laces of Spain Laces of England Laces of Ireland Glossary Grounds Index They tore out the card pocket before stamping discard, then wrote a price on the corner of the page; otherwise in excellent condition for an ex-library book, and only a little yellow. Send entries to joybeeson at comcast.net with the word raffle in the subject line. I'll draw names on Friday the thirteenth; there's a library book sale that day, so that cuts down on the dates I have to remember. -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ http://n3f.home.comcast.net/ -- Writers' Exchange http://www.debeeson.net/LakeCam/LakeCam.html west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where crocus are gone, daffodils have faded, hyacinths are fading, and redbuds and violets are at peak. (And we have a *lot* of redbuds in this end of town!) To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace-chat] Re: tomatoes
I learned that it's quite a process, you have to ferment the seeds! It's only after the seeds are nice and mouldy that you rinse them off and then put them in your fridge (not the freezer). Mom spread tomato seeds on a piece of paper towel; when the gel on a seed dried up, it firmly glued the seed to the towel. Then she stored the towel in a cool dry place until time to plant. If some towel stuck to the seed when you peeled it off, no sweat -- it won't hurt anything. -- Joy Beeson http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ http://www.debeeson.net/LakeCam/LakeCam.html west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where crocus are gone, daffodils are fading, and redbuds and violets are at peak. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace-chat] A bird of a different feather!
On 3/24/12 10:42 PM, Vicki Bradford wrote: It was believed that if a bird made a nest using your hair, you would have headaches...! ((-: I have twice found nests made of my hair, and no headaches! Considerable chagrin that the white hairs in the second nest made it look dirty. The all-brown one was beautiful. I wish I had preserved it. -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://www.debeeson.net/LakeCam/LakeCam.html west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where the daffodils are starting to fade. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace-chat] I won!
I fell for one of these things once. Shortly after we moved from Kula to Indianapolis, I got a letter from a firm on Oahu offering a free trip to Maui. After snickering that they had sent an offer of a trip to Maui to Maui -- perhaps they didn't realize where the Kula was? -- I sent an enthusiastic letter saying they could send the airline tickets to my Indianapolis address, and I'd be delighted to buy their sewing machine or whatever it was. I never heard from them again. -- Joy Beeson http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ http://www.debeeson.net/LakeCam/LakeCam.html west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where the snow has all melted again. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace-chat] Shopping: was; Green thing
Message found forgotten in drafts folder; yesterday was a week ago. On 2/1/12 2:33 AM, scotl...@aol.com wrote: I'm with Agnes: all shopping is a bore but I would add bookshops to her list of non chore shopping/browsing. If you want something specific -- say lace-up shoes -- shopping is acutely painful and usually futile. Which is why I have only one pair of shoes, and I'm still dancing around about having found them -- in a shoe-discount store already, and it was the first pair of black oxfords I saw! I'm old enough to remember when you sat down, told the shoe-store clerk what you wanted, he measured your feet, went into the back of the store, and came out with three pairs, at least one of which fit perfectly.) (I got my previous pair from a store which did have a fitter, but they give me corns and have a lot of empty space at the toe.) I had a lovely day shopping for nothing yesterday. I rode my bike to the library to return a book, but as I was approaching the railroad that runs past the library I realized that I'd forgotten to bring the book, so I doubled back to a place where I could cross the other railroad and bought a spool of thread, inspecting lots of fabrics and notions first. One of these years I'm going to buy a growth set of those flexible plastic thimbles. Then I realized that I was crossing the street where the used-book store is, but before I'd gotten warmed up -- their entire basement is full of books -- I felt an urgent need to continue to a place with public facilities. Next stop was the Mexican supermarket, where I bought a bag of kitchen-style tortilla chips and three bags of tiny roasted-in-the-shell peanuts, and learned that they shelve lemon and lime juice with the sodas. Through the new roundabout to chili cheese fries, a tour of the gun shop (the teeny derringer takes 22 long-rifle ammunition; the little white dog that's afraid of bike helmets wasn't there), a rather boring lap around a dollar store I probably visit more often than those that are closer because I rarely go out that way, so I don't skip it. A long loop to a discount grocery that has oddball stuff I never see again, a lap through the pawn/musical-instrument shop, and home. The pearl-handled pistol is cute and surprisingly inexpensive, but if I had a gun in the house I'd need to take a firearms-safety course, and if I ever fired it, it would probably wreck my arthritic old hand. (22 ammunition doesn't have much kick, but that little thing has no mass to speak of, and a tiny little handle.) And I don't have a license to carry, so bringing it home on a bike would be a problem. Not to mention that I hear surprisingly well for my age, and I would like to keep it that way. -- Joy Beeson http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ http://www.debeeson.net/LakeCam/LakeCam.html west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] Lace Fence and other materials
On 1/30/12 8:18 AM, lynrbai...@desupernet.net wrote: some sort of cord could be used, but what kind? Needs to be able to withstand the elements and the sun, and be able to keep its shape. Does any cord! fill the bill? DH replaces his polypropylene boat-tying ropes every year, but if not required to keep a heavy boat fast in a high wind, rope would probably last much longer. I asked him, and he said he'd go with hemp or sisal if making a fence; the point of using polypropylene is that it floats. Sun rots things really, really fast. -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ http://n3f.home.comcast.net/ -- Writers' Exchange http://www.debeeson.net/LakeCam/LakeCam.html west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where we're freezing and thawing and freezing and thawing. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace-chat] Green thing
The packers at our supermarkets have been told that meat goes into a separate bag, but they haven't been told why, it's a rule to be blindly followed, like walking into the teeth of the traffic even when you have no chance at all of getting out of the way when you see a car coming -- so the lunch meat and the pork chops go into the same bag. Fortunately, all of them package everything in sealed containers -- not just shrink wrapped, but heat-sealed bags -- so it doesn't really matter. Still, I prefer Aldi, where I can pack my own bags, sorting into garage and kitchen as I do so. Or pack my trunk, as I did once when I forgot to take my bags. I'm not at all sure how that happened, since I store my bags in the trunk. DH was with me, which may have had something to do with it. Many is the time when I parked my cart outside the restroom (so it wouldn't be unpacked and put away) and ran back out to the car for my bags. -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ http://n3f.home.comcast.net/ -- Writers' Exchange http://www.debeeson.net/LakeCam/LakeCam.html west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace-chat] Re: Green thing
Counting Walmart, there are five supermarkets in town, but only three that I can get to without making a big hairy deal out of it. Aldi expects you to bring your own bags (bags, including insulated bags, available at reasonable cost) *and* expects you to do your own packing. I like their system best, partly because I have to rush-rush to put my stuff on the conveyor as fast as the clerk takes it off, and partly because I never find the canned goods in the same bag with the bagged salad. And when I go by bike, I don't have to take the stuff out of bags before I pack it into the panniers. Marsh and Kroger will throw stuff into the cart loose if you insist on it in just the right way. I think the baggers at Kroger are paid by the bag; they stop just short of putting empty bags into my bags. Marsh gives a five-cent credit for each bag brought and used, and fewer of the baggers are snowed by canvas bags. I bought the canvas bags from SuperValu (now Nichol's Market) in another state and another century. They are still going strong -- small holes in some, but I'm still not looking to see which bags the canned goods go into. -- Joy Beeson http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ http://n3f.home.comcast.net/ -- Writers' Exchange http://www.debeeson.net/LakeCam/LakeCam.html west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where it's a lovely warm day -- in January? To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace-chat] Re: Soup Stew enhancer
On 1/23/12 11:16 AM, David C COLLYER wrote: I'm not sure how many realize that whatever you put under oil cannot go off. When I lived in New York, decent colby wasn't to be had for love or money, not even in the specialty cheese shop. Here almost any colby is edible, but honestly-sharp cheddar for seasoning can be found only rarely. So when we came out for a visit once a year, I would take home a whole horn of County Line. (This was before Beatrice bought out County line and cheapened the product.) Now and again I would use a piece of dental floss and two pencils to cut a wheel off the horn (Score a line around the cheese with a paring knife, put the floss in the score, pull on the ends.) Then I would butter the newly-cut surface to keep the horn from spoiling. -- Joy Beeson http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ http://www.debeeson.net/LakeCam/LakeCam.html west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where the lake is half thawed from the rain. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] Lace classes
On 10/26/11 10:59 AM, Bob Ross wrote: There are two ladies in town with way more experience then me so I'm may just suggest the weavers contact them. You might be the better teacher, because you remember what's hard and what you did about it. We experienced workers tend to say things like All you have to do is to frammis the wilberstan. [flutters fingers randomly, perfectly- frammised wilberstan appears] And then you gorblach . . . -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ http://www.debeeson.net/LakeCam/LakeCam.shtml#content west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Re: lace at jury duty
On 10/28/11 1:23 PM, lacel...@frontier.com wrote: Check with your officials at your court house And the first question you should ask is Will my very expensive and fragile lace equipment be safe? Leaving stuff in the jury room with a bailiff watching over it would be fine, leaving the waiting room for a potty break on the other hand . . . -- Joy Beeson west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Demise of suppliers
On 10/17/11 12:21 AM, robinl...@socal.rr.com wrote: There's also a kind of metal nail that's fairly thick/long (by nail standards) and has a second ridge below the flat head. That makes a decent neck unless you're using really long lengths of thick thread (the neck isn't all that big). Most beginners probably don't need more than a yard or two on each bobbin, so that should be fine. You just need to find out the name of the nail to get. http://www.brockwhite.com/0p14i4137c1016/scaffold-nails/ http://www.plumbersurplus.com/Prod/Prime-Source-16DUP-Bright-Duplex-Head-Scaffold-Nails/155814/Cat/1427 They are called scaffold nails -- the double head is to make them easy to pull out. The largest size at the local hardware store is a tad small, but one might be able to order a pound of a larger size. They make good bobbins for coarse thread, but could do with being chucked into a lathe to clean and neaten the neck. (Of course, that would leave raw steel that reaches out for oxygen and humidity, and stains thread even before it rusts -- but one might rub it with wax or paint before removing it from the lathe.) Skewer-and-bead bobbins would be good because one can have the children make their own; it's fun even if one has no intention of ever making lace. I once obtained a bag of seconds of bone beads, which were a lot of fun to play with. I still have two skewer-and-bead single-point bamboo knitting needles that I use as shawl pins. -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ http://n3f.home.comcast.net/ -- Writers' Exchange http://www.debeeson.net/LakeCam/LakeCam.shtml#content west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where it's raining again. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Sign of the times - call for action? (long)
On 10/14/11 7:53 AM, Jane Partridge wrote: (There is NO danger of our closing, but a strong danger of committee members being overworked if we don't gain some new blood!). Which leads to another vicious circle when one member can't take it any more and drops out, which increases the strain on the others . . . -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ http://n3f.home.comcast.net/ -- Writers' Exchange http://www.debeeson.net/LakeCam/LakeCam.shtml#content west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Wooden implement question
On 10/6/11 6:36 AM, Avital wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/spindexr/5546568576/ I thought it was one of those tapered sticks that you wind rings on in needle lace until I fired up Virtual Magnifying Glass and saw that the end in shadow matches the one we can see. Like the others, I can't think of anything but a needle case. So what's the hole for? To wear it on a lanyard? To put a knitting needle in to use as a wrench to unscrew the cap? -- Joy Beeson http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ http://www.debeeson.net/LakeCam/LakeCam.shtml#content west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Re: lace knitting + supplies + dying wool
On 10/1/11 5:41 AM, Sister Claire wrote: And finally - the merino lace-weight wool I bought is not the color I thought it would be. It is sort of a dark ecru or light tan with yellow undertones but I need something in the brown/tan/khaki/beige range. I've already started knitting, but can I die the finished product? How do I do that? Wool is the easiest fiber to dye, and brown is the easiest color to get -- but dying yarn is *much* easier than dying the finished product. If you goof up a teeny bit dying fabric, you get ugly blotches; the same goof in dying yarn gives a lovely variegation or a subtle liveliness to the color. Dharma's web site http://www.dharmatrading.com/ isn't as helpful as their paper catalog used to be, but there are still tutorials and helpful advice to be found if you poke around. When you want brown shades is a good time to experiment with natural dyes -- almost every weed dyes brown when simply put into the pot with the wool, gradually brought to a boil, and then allowed to cool in the bath. I've never had yarn felt when put into cold water and heated, then left in the water until cold or lukewarm. But once I was too impatient to boil water to dissolve soap, then cool and boil again, so I dropped some stained yarn into boiling soapy water. It turned yellow and felted thoroughly, but didn't stick together, and it did come out clean. I made high-definition ribbing for the gloves I wear while typing in the winter. (Soap must be followed by a vinegar rinse when used on wool, because soap is alkaline. Best to rinse in plain water, then wash again with vinegar as your soap.) -- Joy Beeson http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ http://home.comcast.net/~debeeson/DaveCam/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Books on demand
On 9/13/11 1:51 PM, Jean Nathan wrote: . . . the author could photocopy the book, . . . Provided, of course, that the publisher has released to him the copyright on the *typesetting*. Otherwise, one is stuck with starting with the material sent to the publisher -- if you kept a copy after the final book came out. (I threw away all the rep copies of the Bikeabout -- and the rubber cement would have turned into a stain and let go by now anyway.) -- Joy Beeson http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace-chat] EU bureaucracy
On 8/26/11 7:44 AM, Lesley Blackshaw wrote: Whilst not wishing to rain on anyone's parade, I'm afraid I have to show you this link http://www.snopes.com/language/document/cabbage.asp Which makes me want to count the words in each of the named documents, then find a federal order that contains *more* words than were attributed to the cabbage regulation. But I doubt that the desired regulation is available in downloadable format, and my mailbox is only 11 by 13 by 23(about a third of a meter high and wide by half a meter deep), so I couldn't order the print version. Not to mention that they'd probably charge at least ten cents a page to print it out. Once one gets one's hands on it, paper isn't a problem. One can get a pretty good estimate of the number of words in a document by counting the words in a typical line and multiplying by the number of lines on a typical page and the number of pages -- usually a better estimate than the precise but inaccurate count of a word processor. -- Joy Beeson http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ http://home.comcast.net/~debeeson/DaveCam/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where the weather has been pleasant for *days* -- what's up? To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace-chat] Christmas stores opening
What annoys me about dragging the seasons forward is that when I actually need stuff, it's all been remaindered. I did score a pair of sandals a few days ago, though. At a store that sells remainders. Since I make the rest of my clothing, the main problem is that I'm working on stuff for the year before last! (Note to self: finish the three curry bras today. I's too hot to get through the week on six, two of which can't be worn under light-colored clothing.) (Helps to get caught in a thunderstorm and do the wash half a week early.) As for Christmas gifts: everybody gets fruitcake. -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ http://n3f.home.comcast.net/ -- Writers' Exchange http://home.comcast.net/~debeeson/DaveCam/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace-chat] curry bras????
On 7/26/11 10:41 AM, Sue Babbs wrote: OK - I'll admit it. You have me baffled! What are curry bras??? Oops. I bought two pieces of linen a long time ago -- one curry, one lipstick. I refer to the bra I made from the lipstick linen as my scarlet bra; the three I'm making from the scraps of the jersey I made from the curry linen are my curry bras. It's a light yellow-brown. I bought that linen a *long* time ago -- I wore out and replaced the curry jersey. The current jersey is a color called taxicab, a tad yellower than International Orange. And rather sheer for my tastes, but I'd been hunting for yellow linen a long time when I found it. (I should check whether there's enough scrap from it to make a taxicab bra, and *really* snow innocent bystanders!) -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ http://n3f.home.comcast.net/ -- Writers' Exchange http://home.comcast.net/~debeeson/DaveCam/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] of lace bicycle baskets
I just noticed that the texture on my plastic wastebasket is an enlargement of needle-made lace, sufficiently detailed that I can tell that the needle in question was in an embroidery machine. They must have scanned a piece of chemical lace to create the design. The effect is similar to the bicycle basket (it's even the same color!), but I'm pretty sure we didn't pay $70 for it. I don't think thread lace would be a good trimming for a bicycle basket, as stuff on the outside of a vehicle doesn't take any time at all to get filthy. One might make really-coarse lace and soak it in spar varnish. Which brings up the idea of replacing my wire panniers with wire-lace panniers, but even if I had the requisite tools and skills, I don't think I'd like hooking my ugly old bungees into wire lace. Not to mention the question of working the reflectors into the design. -- Joy Beeson http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ http://home.comcast.net/~debeeson/DaveCam/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where the not-rainy interval is over. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace-chat] concentrated OJ
On 5/11/11 3:17 AM, Jean Nathan wrote: What's Tang? Not a name that I've ever seen on sale. I assume it's some sort of orange juice. It's an orange-flavored drink powder like pre-sweetened Kool-Aid, but with one or more nutrients added. Way back when, Tang scored an advertising triumph when some of the powder was taken on a space voyage. The ads never mentioned that on early flights the astronauts followed a food-free diet on account of there being no facilities in space suits. -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://home.comcast.net/~debeeson/DaveCam/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where we went from cold and wet to 80F overnight. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace-chat] concentrated OJ
On 5/11/11 10:36 AM, dmt11h...@aol.com wrote: It has always been my impression that sugar is sugar, whether it be added (sucrose) or whether it be contained within a fruit (fructose). Once upon a time, I handed out cookies at a Century ride. My grapes had just ripened, so I brought along a few bunches of those too. One of the riders was thrilled to see the grapes -- they would bring her blood sugar up faster than the cookies would. *Some* diabetics get a bye on fruit because the sugar is diluted with fiber and stuff. This doesn't apply to juice that has had the fiber and stuff filtered out. I have heard that orange juice is the best treatment for insulin shock in a person who can still swallow a liquid. Tangent: a long time ago, a paramedic who was teaching a first-aid course told us that the very expensive glucose paste for reviving diabetics in insulin shock came only in huge packages, so that you had to spoil a whole pound every time you gave a patient a teaspoonful. So he went to McDonald's and asked for a handful of their honey packets. Just the right size, no waste, works exactly the same, tastes better, and McDonald is happy to help out at no charge. -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://home.comcast.net/~debeeson/DaveCam/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where we went directly from furnace to air conditioner. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace-chat] Re: Concentrated orange juice
On 5/8/11 4:56 AM, Jean Nathan wrote: Any suggestions? Use fresh orange juice and boop it up with orange extract and a little honey. Replace any water called for with orange juice. One trick I use when baking for diabetics is to put in as much chopped nuts as the batter will stick together. Nuts dilute the sugar and make small servings more satisfying. The rec.food.cooking FAQ, which is posted on the Web at http://vsack.homepage.t-online.de/rfc_faq.html contains much useful information for people using foreign cookbooks. -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ http://home.comcast.net/~debeeson/DaveCam/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where it's stopped raining for a while. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Weavers knot
On 2/20/11 1:14 PM, Jane Partridge wrote: . . . what we were told was a sheet bend was in fact a clove hitch, GCK!! Confusing a bend with a hitch is like confusing a match with a pair of chopsticks! -- Joy Beeson, KC9TOX http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ http://home.comcast.net/~debeeson/DaveCam/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where six inches of snow are predicted for tonight. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace-chat] Valentine customs
On 2/1/11 9:31 AM, Jean Eke wrote: Do any of you know if this custom survived anywhere else? Often customs like this were taken to America and survived longer there. It might have been an influence on our Halloween customs. -- Joy Beeson http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where the Big Blizzard is finally getting here, maybe. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com.
