[LU] forest

[Mark Pilling]

Only the second game I've seen us deserve to lose.  Preston were better
than us, I'm afraid we deserved it ourselves today, though credit to forest
for holding their form and taking their chance.

The big problem as we all know is our poor ability to score.  Today, as
often, we are so unthreatening in their box.  I accept that breakaways will
mean opposition have a much better liklihood to score which is countered by
the number of chances we create by being on the front foot and creating so
many more chances. And that's OK with me. I'd rather watch Leeds than
Forest - or anyone.  (OK I'd always rather watch Leeds but you get my
meaning).  It's why I love Bielsa and dream that he stayswhat/who could
ever be better?

Buton corners against us, we are so under pressure, but while we pummel
their crowded box, corners, crosses, through balls, cut backs...it almost
never looks like we're going to score.  Today for prime example, we had
Cooper's header and what?  a couple that fizzed past everyone.

Anyway, hopefully we can calm down and find our belief, we have still been
good enough to be 2nd.  We play the best football of the League, we create
enough to compensate for our poor xG.  We can still do it.

For me today

4. Casilla.  I'd probably drop him.  Teach him to be muscular in his box
without a Sergio Ramos to protect him. I do rate him as a shot stopper and
superb distributer. BUT

4 Alioski.  Love him. But today it wasn't happening and then he lost his
head.

6. Ayling been disappointed with him lately but today, he looked better as
CB than he has at RBand at end of game, when everyone else was frantic
he at least kept cool and tried to play the game they know and trust.
dragged him up from a 5.

6. Cooper.  One I think didn't do much wrong, and so nearly scored. But no
real reason to go beyond 6.

6. White. Same. Not much wrong, not much to rave about.

5. Dallas. Generous? I'd have subbed him at HT for Shacks. We were offering
nothing in MF.

5. Sad to give this to Pablo. Tried. But it didn't work.

6. Klich. Probably my motm. even though he didn't really do much.

5. Costa. Still doesn't offer anything substantial.  Passenger.

6. Harrison. Worked hard. tried. only other motm opition. good touch and
presence. no final ball.

- Bamford. Hard to judge. No service. no contribution.

5 Roberts. Didn't provide anything.

- Kev no idea.

- Shack disappointed with his few touches, but too late to expect anything.

7 Ref. Thought he had a decent game.

Nowhere near the end.  If we play like we can (and score) we can still run
away with the league - whatever the result against Brentford even.  Just
hope the players continue to believe.
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[LU] What a Man!!

[Mark Pilling]

Quotes (?)  Marcelois amazing,  Plus, Ne=aeffy has my support fo r
consistent 'list pleasing' and general engagement of decades with the list
.x

"What we have to do is describe how things are and accept supporters and
the press judge us how they think we have to be judged. Every time the team
doesn’t win there is something around the club, some feeling of doubt, lack
of confidence and we understand this, but we have to know if we deserve
this or not. Also it’s useful to analyse the argument supporters and press
say what they claim on the team. Fair things I am forced to analyse, to
analyse you need arguments. So when we listen or read the demanding about
claims for what we are doing, we try to confirm if what people in general
say is true or not. This is very important to say this clearly. To the
supporters we are forced to give them, not to demand something. We have to
listen to them and not answer them. We are grateful with the supporters, we
listen and consider them. We respect what they say and after it’s the same
with the press on another level. We analyse if what you say is real or not.
If what you say is real, right, of course it’s a contribution for us. If
it’s not right or true it’s a mistake, we consider it.

Worship you MB
Love you RN

unf xx
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[LU] Dodged a Bullet!

[Mark Pilling]

Can you think of a manager that not only understands the 'Barca Way' but
could 100% make ALL their players better (inc LM)?

Phew!!

Hope to be shot down in flames for this (Marcelo is my Beautiful God).
...Fair enough that MB talks up PB to the media, but, does he seem to have
a blind spot re actually the ability to score goals?  Last season it was
lamentations that ununstandably we need a ridiculous amount of chances and
that goals scoring cannot be trained/taught.  This week he complained that
the problem rather than not scoring, is that we're conceding.
Isn't our profligacy a serious problem? Can't it be taught/trained (or
bought in)?

KOT. In my mind, I'd have swapped Ayling to get Pablo on, and put Dallas at
RB.  Then probably Alioski for Costa switching the ever improving JH
across, and possibly Shack for Klick.

For once fingers crossed for the window.

Luv xx
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[LU] Strikers

[Mark Pilling]

Thoughts?  Whilst I wish Bamford had the sniffing instincts of not even
Sniffer, but Becchio or Chapman, and as much as I wish Neketiah had not got
his bollock twisted and proved he was key to our appalling chances to goals
ratio, I reckon this is a spot on article.

https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/latest-leeds-united-news/why-arsenals-eddie-nketiah-has-failed-make-inroads-leeds-united-under-marcelo-bielsa-and-what-whites-need-now-1352543?fbclid=IwAR1iIXmkW4j-WRVwnWfWTvqX1pBzeaOL1-eYEMvkgN5erkDcXz3CgnfgKRI

Cheers

PS. For Christmas I asked Santa for a renewed contract for Marcelo. Please
Santa.
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[LU] Ah memories. 4-5 Liverpool

[Mark Pilling]

Yes, it took me back to that day - my last regular game at ER as I came to
live in the desert the next day - and some kind of retribution.  John
Barnes gave an absolute masterclass, believe we were waving our hankies at
him by 4-0 to them at half time. Only remember us doing that before for
Bowles and maybe Beagrie? and Marsh?? But then we came back, and, why
retribution? We certainly felt that it should have been 6-5 as Chapman had
what seemed two perfectly good goals disallowed for alleged fouls on the
keeper (don't think it was Grobbelar?).  Maybe in today's game they might
indeed be classed fouls on the keeper, but reviewing it then on TV I felt
certain they were just honest 50 50s .

thanks for the memories (and the 3 points and the fighting spirit) today.

xx
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[LU] It took till the second half of the season for us to get played off the park.

[Mark Pilling]

3 our two fair weather leaders Ayling Cooper. Shocking football and nil
positive influence. At least we know they're both regularly better
4 costa complete powder puff
5 Phillips Kilich Harrison Casilla  poor  Phillips maybe 3.5 for that late
corner gift.
6 Dallas Allisoki Bamford tried, showed some attitude
7 White Nketiah maybe not really 7s but generally decent.

Looking forward to this game with such relishand thinking how important
to enjoy these wonderful days under Marcelo as we'll be unlikely to get it
this good again...and for the first time, it seemed like MB didn't have any
real answer other than keep going and in the end they'll get tired.  No
plan B.  Bit I can't complain.
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[LU] post 3. no one better

[Mark Pilling]

(from Khalifa international stadium amongst the flamengos watching pretenders 
to our claim of the greatest team the world has ever seen)

didn't see our 2nd half but haven't we now played all teams in the league?  and 
not a single one bettered us (scorelines aside).  Wow!  first half was just 
left thinking...if only bamford was a goalscorer..thinking the likes of Chapman 
and becchio.

 these Brazilian fans are locos, crazy, brilliant.


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[LU] omg

[Mark Pilling]

dallas hits the post...but what's going on.  minute 22, Harrison onto
his right and plays a sublime ball in.

Has he been saving it for the defenders studying his utter lack of a right
just for this game???
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[LU] Wow Le Rouge et le Noir

[Mark Pilling]

Minute one.  Harrison, with confidence, cuts onto his right, and plays a
quality cross  As our magician pulls up with a hammy string :-(

COME ON LEDS
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[LU] what do i know?

[Mark Pilling]

spent a lot of the second half thinking "Bamford's contribution in this
game is not so significant that I hope we throw Eddie on early as I feel
he's the sniffer who'd be on the end of those cut backs, on the right side
of the defender when the crosses come in, who would bury those shots that
Paddy doesn't" when, on cue of Kiko's absolute worldie...I ate my
words.


& was just thinking while I'm loving he football we're playing, and loving
Marcelo as our leader more and more every day, I'm missing his beautiful
humanitarian philosophies now the pundits are talking just talking the game
with himso, this, rather mild, snippet pleased me

 "In my humble opinion, the most important is to try to make the supporters
value play and not just the result. To why the result happens, the
supporters have to be patient. This patience you need to wait for a result,
it’s stronger if the supporters love the play more than the result"

looking too far ahead, next season, it would be a lamentable disaster if we
weren't to be promoted and he were to walk.  If we do finally return, would
he stay, would he value the play if we didn't get results, would the owners
be patient if he valued the play and didn't get results, would we value the
play for long without the results.
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[LU] Pablo Hernandez

[Mark Pilling]

Sorry Rich.my glass is half full

10/10  what a display of passing!! (and yes, I saw the crap ones too).

Magician!
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[LU] How to attend one league match this season

[Mark Pilling]

Hi gang

popped into England for my Dad's funeral, thinking of going to the
Brentford &/or Stoke Cup games.
looks like I have to buy a Gold membership though to be able to get tickets
(and it'll cost me 50).

Is that true?


They used to have overseas members, silver members etc.  Do any of those
still exist?

Cheers

ps.  today's game.  shame we scarcely used Pablo out on the right.
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[LU] 5 9

[Mark Pilling]

Hm.
not one for demanding signing after signing, I was hoping, in this order, this 
summer to see:

bielsa signed for another year.

(big gap)


a goals scoring striker
a central defender.

We have acquired 2 of the above (including the most important).  but also lost 
2 of the above.
yikes.

I had hoped that bielsa would/must be a pull for aspirational players/loanees, 
but we don't seem to have taken advantage.

tell me not to worry



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[LU] Article on Pontus

[Mark Pilling]

Thought this was an interesting piece summarising what Pontus brought to
Leeds and why it has ended in tears.

https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/leeds-united-pontus-jansson-transfer-16548242
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[LU] Pontus

[Mark Pilling]

Trust Marcelo more, but sad if true that Pontus is off.

Great character. Made a massive improvement to our defending corners, and
seemed more able than ten bob for'ead Cooper when attacking them.  However,
last few games of the season, I felt he and Kiko were becoming a bit of a
liability, and, granted he turned up after Marcelo's last pre-season
started, he seemed vulnerable to being pressured on the break (quite common
under MB), and the least 'ball playing' of the defence.
I do fear that we'd be likely to severely miss his robust set piece
defending and what a shame if he's leaving under a cloud.  We love(d) him
and he surely love(d) Leeds.

cheers unnnf
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[LU] non lu var. Fwd: Rules taking over the game

[Mark Pilling]

totally agreedas I wrote to f365 last month:



Sad.

I fear we are becoming rule chasers, forgetting the game we used to love.
Really, did the 'handball' that gave Liverpool the Champions League deserve
to be punished with a goal? It was a maybe cross that touched his arm. Give
them a free kick if you have to give something.
And then, Lingard's boot was a centimetre ahead of the Dutch back line.
Gaining an advantage? Was he ahead of the defence? A few years ago, to get
a bit of the spirit of the game back, they talked about daylight between
the attacker and the defenders.  Where was the spirit in calling tonight's
'goal' offside?

All for VAR and getting decisions right, but we should beware of letting
the rules overtake the game.

Cheers
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Re: [LU] into Extra time in the other semi

[Mark Pilling]

exactly my thoughts, watching Smith constantly being upset, appealing, moaning 
and acting hard done by, and the players behaving similarly, including moaning 
away at each other, I was thinking it must be a pretty toxic environment around 
the club and no fun to play for (excepting of course the ridiculous salary and 
ubiquitous hero worship).

Anyway, lucky stuff (*) on for tonight.
Come on Leeeds

M


From: Robert Heath 
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 11:43 am
To: Mark Pilling
Cc: leedslist
Subject: Re: [LU] into Extra time in the other semi

A lot of it has to be down to Smith. He is my new #1 hate figure. If you 
remember the Brentford match at ER they were all about diving and moaning, and 
a very weak ref fell for it alland of course Smith was their 
manager then.


On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 10:57 PM Mark Pilling 
mailto:markpill...@gmail.com>> wrote:
wow!

hope villa don't get past baggies.  what an annoying set of constantly
moaning diving complaining, ref pressuring cheating brats. super horrid.
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[LU] into Extra time in the other semi

[Mark Pilling]

wow!

hope villa don't get past baggies.  what an annoying set of constantly
moaning diving complaining, ref pressuring cheating brats. super horrid.
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[LU] HT

[Mark Pilling]

My first half:

Dominant, superior...except for the lack of shots

Phillips and Beradi rocks
we've seen the best and worst of Luke
if Viduka was half a yard short of pace, Klich is half a something short -
almost but not quite.  Enjoyed his effort at Saiz passing in their box.
Pablo as engaged as ever, should we try swapping him and Shackleton? hope
we can get him a bit more space.
Scapegoats Dallas and Harrison doing decent.
Roofe's clever runs starting to be a nuisance - hope it's his shots next
half.

Ref - well, if i were Frank Fair Play Media Darling, my half time talk
would be, gently lower yourself to the floor if Leeds hit the back of the
net, or we're in dangerous free kick territory - and game's ours.

btw.  Was it the same player that pulled Pablo back in front of the ref,
and then flew in two footed studs up on Luke...and got a gentle word??

COME ON LEEEDS
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[LU] English Managers Are the Fairest Players

[Mark Pilling]

Watching Villa West Brom and lovely to see Their teams are such sporting
rule following goody goodies.

Today Hourihane (not guilty of  2.48.1.4   "at least two matches for
assaulting (elbowing, punching, kicking etc.) an opponent or a person other
than a match official" sportingly plays and scores for Villa.

Grealish gets flattened in the box (despite no contact), Villa sportingly
accept the penaltyscored by

Abrahams who charmingly piles into a Baggie knocking him over in their area
and denying a chance to shoot, so sportingly feigns a head injury and avoid
punishment and penalty.

They then sportingly pressure the ref into sending Gayle off for
legitimately challenging for a 50/50 ball as the keeper sportingly writhes
in the phantom agony of his sock getting close to Gayle's boot.  Man's
game, eh?

But truly sporting of DG to get a red card and 2 game ban in recognition of
his Bamford like rolling theatrics and fake head injury when his neck had
been stroked earlier in the game.

What a shame those dirty Argies/Leeds Scum sully our fair and beautiful
game.

Bitter, moi?

COME ON YOU WHI-ITES!!
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[LU] Fair Play

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Dear Mr Smith

Understanding your expectation of fair play and leveling the playing field,
we appreciate that you will be excluding Mr Hourihane from your next two
games.

Thank you
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[LU] Question

[Mark Pilling]

What a season so far!

Adore Bielsa, what he's done with our mediocre bunch! The football we've
played. His philosophies, behaviour and manner.

Love the attitude of the players, willing to learn, to work, to will and
believe.

Love that I've been able to watch every game on my TV.

My question.why are we so 'inefficient' and how can we become more
efficient?

Is it the quality of the front men?
Or the service they are getting?
Are we too good? (so many teams just parking the bus)
Are we too predictable?
Don't we know how to unpick a packed defence?
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[LU] you heard it here first

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Leeds 6-0 WBA

Been waiting to happentonight's the night.

Rob, any sight of those Macaws?  And where's OzPete with the beer trolley?
My vodka's empty already.

Cheers
Nif
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[LU] Training with Bielsa

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Haven't seen this posted/mentioned. thought it might interest:

https://www.socceriqeducation.com/bielsa-observations.html



Leeds were set to face QPR on Sunday at 2pm in the FA Cup, so in all
honestly I came into the visit not exactly too sure of what I was about to
experience. I naturally expected something resembling a generic pre-game
preparatory session, fine-tuning a few details before tomorrows game. But
as we reached the fields, I already knew this was going to be something a
little out of the ordinary. This is a Bielsa team after all.

Once we got down to the fields, 5 fields were prepped and ready to be put
to use, each one sprinkled with mannequins, and each one created for a
different purpose and area of the pitch. As the players headed out to the
field, the make-up of the squad consisted of around 13 first-team players,
8 u23 players, and 5 u18 players, with some players coming back from injury
on another small field for a total of around 29 players training that day.

Goalkeeper Coach Marcos Abad had a small area set up behind us to begin
work with Bailey-Peacock Farrell and Will Huffer, and his themes for the
session focused around tipping high balls, near-post angles from cut-back
crosses, and reacting to make double saves inside 10-12 yards.

On what seemed to be the main field, there were 6 mannequins set up in the
attacking third. Midfielders Lewis Baker, Adam Forshaw, and Tyler Roberts
left the core group (who went to warm-up on another empty field) and
immediately began working with Assistant Coach Diego Flores on some
triangulating movement patterns & combination play. This was fairly intense
and included lots of repetition and sharp movement over 15 yard spaces.

Carlos Corberan (Leeds United’s First team Coach and Head Coach of the
u23’s) took 5-6 players over to one field, where he worked them through a
very specified passing pattern to replicate playing out of pressure and
manipulating the opponents shape to exploit spaces in wide areas. This went
on for roughly 15 minutes, and the pattern was obsessively replicated, with
extremely fine details touched on by Corberan in terms of angles of
reception to the ball, and disguises in body shape when looking to play
into the next zone.

On another field adjacent, a few other Assistant Coaches worked with a
small group of 5 u18 / u23 players. Again, there were mannequins set up in
a specific shape, and this group were focusing on building out from the
Goalkeeper into the middle third in high intensity bursts. The phase of
play itself lasted no more than 10 seconds, but the pattern was repetitive
and diligent. Players had cues of exactly when to move into targeted
pockets of space either in front of, or behind certain colored mannequins.
Everyone knew their part within the pattern, and the detail was intriguing
to watch.

After the 15 minute warm-up via some passing patterns and agility, the core
group of players headed onto the main field to begin the main chunk of the
session. By this point, The equipment staff and Assistant Coaching staff
had set up an opposition formation (via mannequins) in the attacking half
of the field. I had an idea this was going to be some focus on team shape
in transitions, and sure enough it was. This was probably my most
intriguing part of the day, as the attention to detail was astounding.
iPads with numerous members of the coaching staff, filled with specific
visual movements for each player to observe and then produce when it was
time to execute certain shifts in shape.

The shifts in shape were short bursts, yet quick and inventive. I’d like to
say I fully understood the tactical transitions completely but I didn’t, as
they happened so quick and there were 4 or 5 varied patterns in which each
player knew their exact next move. You’d hear a number called out loud by a
staff member, and out of nowhere the #2 was suddenly on a full sprint into
the #8 position, while the #9 would turn into the #11 and the #11 would
become the #10 as the #10 became the #9 (for example). All this happening
within about 5 seconds.

It is also worth noting how fascinating it was to see the staff to player
ratio in the ongoing sessions. As I looked around the numerous fields in
use, there must have been a 1-to-3 ratio in every capacity at any moment.
The players had plenty of observant eyes on them, but also plenty of
willing coaches ready to help and tweak any glitches in preparation that
may arise during the session. No stones were left unturned, and it was also
quite surprising to me how often the staff would stop exercises and bring
the group in to watch more iPad footage or to to get some tactical points
across. For many of us, a very contrasting notion in comparison to the new
way we are taught to coach in terms of “let the players play”.

Nevertheless, as much as I would love to share the actual session diagrams
with everyone, and the meticulous approach to pattern play in which Bielsa
is renowned for, I unfortunately 

[LU] Question re New Fair Play RUles

[Mark Pilling]

Ian Holloway on Bielsa:

“I think he singled out Leeds because of the new fair play rules, you’re
only going to be able to spend a certain amount of money very soon and
Leeds will be a big, big club again very, very soon.”

I missed this change - is it going to be the end of parachute advantage?
what new rules is he referring to?
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[LU] Sent by the Don

[Mark Pilling]

omg

each week I'm more and more in love!

simply drooled watching the Derby game.

and now...our modern day Revie's filessensational dossiers...wow wow
and wow

MOT!!!
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[LU] Stamp Us Out

[Mark Pilling]

Stuart Pearce: b*stard who denied Tony Dorigo his deserved century of caps
on Sky Sport:
Yeah, old mates call each other to find out if they're in the opposition
team or not. "Goes on all the time. Fair game"
But our Bielsa "crossed the line, That's not how we do things. Needs
punishing. Make the punishment fit the crime.  Would be perfect to [give
Frank-the-lad the points] reverse the result of the game." (admitting that
in absolutely no way did the spying make any difference whatsoever to the
result.)

Trust the Leeds fans will show MB the love and he sticks it in the face of
all those luddite xenophobic 'proper English football' vulgarians.

We are Leeds
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[LU] 2-0 and checking out the opposition

[Mark Pilling]

wonderful performance all round.

am i too leeds? or is all this outcry about spying a bit ott?
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[LU] How good is BPF?

[Mark Pilling]

Somewhat tongue in cheek subject there, but.

Was it Naeffy or irc Beerman Castlehouse who mentioned:

"top of the league, playing with a makeshift defence and still 2nd
lowest goals conceded."

I've been increasingly impressed watching Baily. Especially, when he
has the ball, the intelligent confident use he is making of it,
fitting our current style and build up. He also has a presence in the
box that many previous have lacked only very occasionally getting
caught out, only real criticism is letting in one or two distance
shots/free kicks that all the commentators cliche "He will be
disappointed/should have got that". (I'm no keeper, but know the goals
are big when you stand in them - and he has made some great saves
too).

He seems to have grown in stature/maturity. And, I was not sure what
they meant by the importance of keepers ability to use the ball, but
watching BPF, i think I get what they're on about.

Certainly impresses me more that Carson ever did.

My tuppennies.


xx
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[LU] No transfers in. (A Love Story)

[Mark Pilling]

O Marcelo exudes class, experience, confidence & wisdom.  Every time I
hear/read his words, I fall more in love.  Top top top football man.

"When a new player comes he doesn’t have the same advantage as the ones who
are present. He has to adapt to the team, the style of work, the city, the
club.

For the second part of the season, . Apart from the situation where the
team needs someone, the possibility of having a player is clear, we won’t
buy anyone.

I prefer instead of buying to improve the quality of the work because the
team usually reflects the quality of the players’ individualities, but it’s
also linked to the training they receive and you also can improve a team
when you improve the equipment."
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[LU] Just wondering

[Mark Pilling]

you know I love Marcelo.  And no O'Leary, Blackwell et al dodging
responsibility either, taking it full on the chin.  Not BPF, Not Dallas,
Not the players.  All my fault.  Nice.


He said the aim was not to concede the ball in our half, where it would
hurt us.  But that's what happened.


Is it just that our defenders are not up to passing it to each other when
under pressure?  Had Marcelo told them, instead of playing the high tempo
game, to take it nice and easy and careful and not lose possession.  Which
they tried, and failed?

And wasn't that what seemed to be happening when Mr
I-was-at-Barcelona-with-Johann-Cruyff-and-Total-football's team got found
out by Millwall and then everyone? Christensen seemed to want them to build
up patiently from the back, which i thought proved his undoing.

This time, though I'm sure Bielsa will have figured out ways to overcome
this.


I still think, we have a team of average championship players, but a coach
of real quality who is proving that just 'buying players' is not the
answer, better to improve what you've got individually and collectively.
And we have a chance.  fingers crossed. MOT
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[LU] Santa, for new year I'd like

[Mark Pilling]

Dear Fernando

Fancy joining your old mate on a loan spell at Leeds? When the forests come
and park their buses, it would be so nice to bring you into the box to get
on the end of all those balls pablo, samu, gianni and maybe jack will be
popping in there.

Wonder if anyone saw the same game
7 BFP (unless he should have organised his defence for the goal)
6 Luke
5 Pontus
6 Cooper
5 Stuart
6 Philips
6 Klick (starts really well though seems to fade?)
7 Pablo - wow, what desire
6 Alioski flawed but i like those crosses
6.5 Adam impressed
6 Roofe
6 Tom
6.5 Clarke more if there'd been a whole game of it
6 Samu

Come on Marcelo, teach and train them how to beat the bus.  and defend
crosses.  Still, I love what you've already done with these players and
want you to stay for years.
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[LU] brentford seen from the rose tinted desert

[Mark Pilling]

Hmm.  Not dismayed by today's game.  I thought Brentford were
impressive and it reminded me that Bielsa has inherited a bunch of regular
(mid-table) players, whom he is shaping into the proverbial silk purse*
through his brand of motivation, inspiration, hard work, confidence,
reputation, player-management and no excuses coaching.  We just about held
our own in the face of clever and skillful opposition.
since we seem to be slagging the players off, I'll try to be a bit more
generous.

BFP. 7. Confident and commanding if not always perfect. Nice.
Ayling 5 or less. Not a great day, though it can happen to all of us and
he's been great for us.  Interesting to see whether we improve during his
ban.
Pontus. 7 just.  Goal, passion, some quality defending but got mugged/made
obvious fouls once or twice too.
Cooper. 6. just. have been impressed this season but shades of
chiristenson-day panic trying to stroll out the back under pressure
Dallas. 6 just. not the worst replacement we could've had.
Alioski 7. 6 as a winger, but 8 at left back.
Harrison. 6.5. Has to find a bit more end product.
Saiz. almost 6. his presence has an effect, but his play didn't really
produce much.  Not sure how much blame can be laid at his door. They marked
him out and we failed either to release him, or use the freedom that
allowed us elsewhere.
Klich almost 7. looked imperial at the off, but dwindled all the way to
getting subbed off.
Phillips just a 6. couldn't stop their 3 on his own. didn't look like it
either really. Unlucky not to score.
Roberts. 7+ looking stronger - both mentally and physically, popped up in
useful positions, made somethings happen.
Forshaw. disappointingly didn't see anything to get excited about but no
eal issues either.
Clarke. Nice positive cameo from the youngster.
Baker. A couple of close things.
Ref. o dear. wanting to prove (to himself?) that he isn't going to be
swayed by the crowd shows he doesn't have the necessary confidence to ref
games at this level. yet.
Marcelo 10. A delight.




*maybe unfair, the lads weren't really a sow's ear.
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[LU] yes!

[Mark Pilling]

We might not’ve won tonight but I adore Marcelo Bielsa already. Every word 
that comes out of his mouth.  His affect on our players. The football we are 
playing. ‘Kin brilliant. I’m in love.

M
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[LU] what a difference Warnock didn't make

[Mark Pilling]

rubbing salt in the wound of the hope aroused at this season's start...reminded 
of the brief fleeting notion that Warnock was destined to get that record with 
us(and worse still an if only when flicking to bein 11 and seeing our Delph 
playing at one top table after our Milner recently played at another.).

what seduction will we inevitably buy momentarily into again for 18-19the 
massive potential of Heck (who is going to train our players to press) or of 
Coops ("our lads are sounds d..none of them would go out onto the pitch looking 
to lose")

Bring onMyanmar?

mot

M
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[LU] What a dumb move putting SS on for the last few minutes at Newport!!

[Mark Pilling]

enjoyed the game at Sunderland earlier in the season but a bit concerned
how easily our offensive boys were brushed aside and knocked off the ball.
Watching the season unfurl on tv, this is a remaining issue, with the newer
europeans keener to wave arms in the air and imaginery cards than chase
back - or even learn to stand up for themselves.  Good old English refs
don't like it and seem to allow good old english defenders the benefit of
the doubt.  Now I've also been watching our little magician, Sami, getting
a bit of the georgie best, diego maradona treatment from players he's
running rings round with his tricks and turns: endless tugs, pushes, nudges
and kicks and yet he prefers to hang on to the ball, he's about beating
them and looking for a pass (though too often there's no pass on) or making
space for the shot, only finally does he generally lose the ball and end up
in a frequent ball of frustration...frustration at losing the ball, at lack
of options from his team, from too many defenders and too little protection
from the refs. And this worries me. If I were he, maybe I would be pining
for a land where he'd get the fair share of free kicks he warrants. So,
dear Santa, for New Year I want SS to fall in love with us as much as PJ
and stay, I want the refs to be more understanding of him and for his
team-mates to rise their game for him.  (And I want Alioski teaching how to
stand strong to a challenge - would have wished the same for Pierre too,
but can't be bothered with him anymore.)


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[LU] weds

[Mark Pilling]

fwiw

I was impressed with the starta great response to the Cardiff game.  we 
were lively, first to the ball, saiz was making things happen and inspiring our 
lads to make runswe could/should have had 3 already before they scored.

but. wiedwald had already partied a shot he should ve saved and then some poor 
marking, uncommanding keeping 1-0 and the game changed.

seemed we d been full of thoughts of 2nd place, just 1 behind Cardiff, when 
suddenly, the unthinkable, we might lose we might have to fight for a point 
even and they went mad. lost all form and composure and it was game over.

our players lost the plot, weds seized on it, surrounded our only remaining 
weapon saiz, and went for it.

the defense were awry, the centre got worse and worse, the wings ceased to 
exist and the keeping was shocking.

to be fair, I thought Felix, who I have not yet rated as a keeper, did ok for 
most of the second half. but it was too late by then.

this team has shown it can playJust now needs to find how to do that when 
the going gets tough.  relatively optimistic.


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[LU] before penalities

[Mark Pilling]

well done leeds

interesting to see a few new and old players get a decent run out

Lonergn 7  good physical presence
Beradi 5.5 solid but no excuse for the penalty - cost us a normal time win
Ayling 7 captains performance
Shaugnassey 8 motm wow. out of position a couple of times, but great
reading, anticpation and decisions, a new Woodgate?
BC or CB.  3. yes. that bad.
Dallas 7.5 solid game, extra half for his attitude in defence
Klich 5.5 first 5 mins I thought we'd unearthed a real gem. but then he
disappeared.
Viera 5 bypassed or passed back until late in the game when he started to
come into it. but his one minute madness cost us the game
Roofe 6 busy but lightweight
Grot 6 busy but heavyweight
Cbicki 5 anonymous except for the end of the first half and in the second.
may have some class but well hidden tonight
Sako 7.5 wow game changer when he came on.
Hernadez 7.5 luxury like cbicki, but made things happen
awesome subs
lasogga 5 i wanted to give him more. didn't really do anything wrong but he
didnt really do anything
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[LU] Saturday 1 kin nil!

[Mark Pilling]

Phew...Just in from mascaraing the camels under louise bourgeoise' s
spider. in the shadow of the world Cup final 2022 stadium with a choice of
flashncrabbegingerale & Guinness in front of me..it's the home of bein
sports so Marching On Together

Cheers
unfff
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[LU] streams for overseas armchairs

[Mark Pilling]

these days so many stream opportunities and new fangled things mentioned,
but each week seems i plough through endless clickbaits to finally get
attached.
So, any overseas listers care to advise re a decent and reasonably reliable
streaming site?

I was suckered into a bet365 deposit though haven't seen a sniff, I have
roku and could get a pass to NOW if that's the best option.

I don't understand things like modbro that i keep seeing mentioned, but
willing to learn if that's where i should be

Help gratefully received.
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[LU] transfers and vitriol

[Mark Pilling]

just saying I don't care much for radizzio to go on any spending spree this
jan.  mr monk seems to have made a silk purse from the sow's ear that was.
that is that is with the players we have. seems a lot of that is a product
of team spirit and confidence. and probably good coaching and
tactics...working with and developing what we already have.
 the dressing room could be threatened with the addition of strong
characters. and would we want any weak characters?
Would any player good enough to go in the first team be ready to go in the
first team, and would everyone remain happy?Both questionable.
would any player come to happily be back up and so be worth buying?

jan transfer window buys always seem to be desperate. and unlikely to offer
the quick fix they are supposed to provide.

hate transfer windows, wish it was open all the time like it used to be.

ps. shuddered to see Poison Pete sitting chummily next to the England
manager at the MoanU game yesterday. that was a nasty shock.

pps Happy New Year. Thanks List for all you give me every year.

ppps. do hope we sign the loanees.
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[LU] stream

[Mark Pilling]

whelan rather than gray

https://www.facebook.com/leedsunitedaudio/?hc_location=ufi

you'll find eddie somewhere if you prefer
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[LU] Shutting the door

[Mark Pilling]

What PARTICULARLY impressed me was how well we managed the end of the game.
After years of trying desperately to hang onto a scoreline and conceding
too many late goals, I thought the team were wonderful against Villa.

cheers
e nuf
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[LU] Monk

[Mark Pilling]

Hi gang

1st, couldn't put my finger on it, he reminded me of someone, then the
penny dropped. He's a cock a too isn't he??

2nd, my expectations summed up by all I really hope for this season is that
he is still our manager by the end of it. If we manage that, we'll have
done at least as well as we have expected.

and apropos of noughtDanny Rose who I think never played for us the
only link left so I may need to transfer my interest to the hairy jocks.
&  Suspect this will be the first season in almost 50 years that, afaik, I
will not attend a Leeds game.


Thanks Dave especially, and Rich and the others for your reports and
contributions.

Cheers
gunuff
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[LU] Goal! As per the BBC

[Mark Pilling]

GOAL - Leeds 1-0 Blackburn

Chris Wood (85 mins)

A goal straight out of the footballing circus. A shot is saved, it's
miscued back across the six-yard box, Chris Wood has a header saved, a poor
header, straight at the keeper, but Wood is able to somehow scuff the loose
ball over the line!
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[LU] like listening to paint dry

[Mark Pilling]

quarter of the way in and a shot each. commentators haven't yet raised
their voices in even a hint of excitement.  (norwich liverpool was the same
first half though)

I hate the notion that what we need is a signing or few.
No.
(a) barring an inspired strachan type capture (what about enticing Xavi
back from our Qatari wilderness??), any players we buy will be of the same
quality.
 (b) what we need is training development tactics and motivation for the
current crew.

Shocked that they turn up and offer such "lack of quality" [E Gray] on the
tremendous salaries they collect.

i see bbc's live match photo is of wood, adeyemi and byram.

Happy Valentines Day 
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[LU] Goal!

[Mark Pilling]

http://www.thickaccent.com/2016/01/09/video-new-signing-mustapha-carayol-scores-an-absolute-banger-for-leeds-v-rotherham/
?
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[LU] evans sticking to a winning team

[Mark Pilling]

nice bench (for this level)

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/k-s-sports
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[LU] Rose tinted scores?

[Mark Pilling]

We were rubbish. I hear you all saying we're going down.  Evans saying we
need 5 new players.  And based on the few games i've seen, I wondered how
awful we are...


Not since Nigel (and Paul) have we had a keeper that didn't have some flaw.
I wouldn't say Silvestri is any worse than other guardians, nor than anyone
we're likely to bring in in his place.

Beradi, doing OK by all accounts.

Taylor, decent young player, as with all decent young players, will both be
overhyped and lose form/make mistakes at times. No problem.

Bamba, has been the best CB and seems to be vociferous on the pitch which
we need. Was very disappointed though with his ridiculous - and costly -
overreaction at referee decisions the last two games. I also looked for him
to intervene earlier last night when Anteucci was getting into a squabble
and needed to be restrained for the sake of the team, but no-one came over
to shut him up.  Bamba is probably OK.

Cooper. Has seemed to me a decent if a bit quiet a player, last night
looked like he didn't want to be there, no presence, poor positioning and
poor passing.  We've been through so many CBs and still continue to fail in
this area, maybe it's not the players but the coaching that's at issue.
Jury Out.

Bellusci. Successive managers have selected him, which suggests he is
better than he looks.  There's a bit of the Andy Hughes, Chris Kamara about
him - the attitude can make up for some rash/underskilled play.  Too much
of a liability for us at CB though imo.

Byram. That was shocking last night. I really did rate Byram, but it seems
we've destroyed whatever he had to offer. If things start going better, I
reckon we might see him back to some decent form, but that isn't going to
happen. I'd hate to sell him as he'll turn out to be a revelation at his
new club. Tant pis.

Cook, Mowatt. See Taylor. These are the players of this year and last year
respectively. Probably an old head - and/or Rudi style engine beside them
-and they'll be fine.  I like Cook better in the middle.

Murphy. As with Belusci, successive managers rate him, which tells me he's
got something.  I haven't really seen it, but nor have i been appalled at
his play.  Last night was bad, but he certainly can't be singled out.  Like
Cooper, I'm on the fence with him.

Adeyemi. Haven't really seen enough.  (4 games) Maybe flatters to deceive,
runs around ab bit, but I don't notice him making the tackles or the
passes. Perhaps we need him as things stand, but I wouldn't miss him.

Botaka, Dallas. Fine. Wide men who take on defenders and scare the
opposition. Whether or not there is the final ball. Keep.

The WBA guy.  Waste of time so far. has diminished the team whenever he has
come on.

Anteucci. I want to keep him. Has some quality, attitude and can score from
nothing. Not sure why it isn't really working but he's ok.

Wood. I called him a useless donkey on his debut, and now i think that
might have been harsh on donkeys. Off the pace, can't jump can't turn,
can't control the ball. Maybe he can shoot, but how often will he be given
the time and space and ball on a plate he appears to need.  Only trouble
is.who else do we have?

Nothing on the bench that i fancy.

So, I think we have a good enough team.  I'd say we lack a goalscorer, a
midfield general and a reinvigorated back 4 before we could mount a serious
challenge but we should be able to hold our own in this division.  As for
bringing in 4 or 5 players...does anyone think that any 4 or 5
championship level players that are available and willing to join would
improve us?  Just more of the same. we should Centre the team around the
youngsters. I just think we need more some consistent quality coaching and
confidence building motivation. .  Maybe Paul Hart for the former and Evans
for the latter might be able to do thatand just give them time.
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[LU] video - answer my own question

[Mark Pilling]

http://wiz1.net/channel64

after 20 tries, managing to evade all the ads and pop ups, and making it
mac compatible
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[LU] video live stream?

[Mark Pilling]

Any found one working (if necessary can you 'recommend' as bona fide one of
these sites that ask you to sign up with a credit card).

Cheers
iffy
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[LU] commentry/comments anyone?

[Mark Pilling]

Do we need to reive the mIRC Kop?

My LUTV subscription recently expired and I cannot get any ustream wiziwig
or any kind of stream.
Oddly too, no wonderful lister is giving any updates from the ground.

Whats going on?

Seems like a dull defensive game from bbc updates and stats
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[LU] Ridsdale!!!!! The Kronsortium, Bates!!*$!!*, GFH....WTF!

[Mark Pilling]

IMO the only football related, football club related , fit and proper to
own or run a football cub offence/incompetence you could levy against him
is his knee jerk firing (and hiring) of managers.  In terms of financial
support and means he clearly shines above those mentioned, in terms of
honesty..well, I ask you!!
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[LU] stream

[Mark Pilling]

http://wiz1.net/channel33
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[LU] why why why

[Mark Pilling]

first, enjoyed today's game. really impressed with doukara and antenucci,
also good to see the austin who originally arrived back again.  good shift
from the midfield.

why1 why take your shirt off after scoring and get a mandatory yellow?

why2 why is it even a yellow?

why3 Tonge and morison?


Never mind, can't criticise redfearn, title form. must be  Candidate for
Manager of the month maybe?
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[LU] unlive stream

[Mark Pilling]

Great to see the result. shame I did an early gym so i could watch the game
at 3.

All the live streams of course have dried up. Any idea where there's a
playback?

Of course I could resubscribe to LUTV.  I finally gave up on that during
the Bates era. Any users care to recommend or not? I'd only really be
interested in the highlights.  And only then if it looks like we've signed
some footballers and are going to play some football.

Look forward to all the reports and opinions

Cheers
from a cool Doha
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[LU] links

[Mark Pilling]

oNLINE: http://krbakken.mzzhost.com/
MOBILE: m.ustream.tv/channel/ustream-leeds
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[LU] Fixtures

[Mark Pilling]

Hi gang

Sorry I presumably missed this Anyone got a link to a csv or ical for
putting our fixtures in Google calendar or outlook?

Way I look at it (and I know,  I don't get to go and watch) is I wish
Hockaday well.   He will have to be really good to survive long.  His track
record means no leeway for him,  The fans,  press and players will all turn
on him the second things don't go well.  So,  hope it happens and he
survives!

Would be lovely to think that all these young Italians mean we will be
playing cultured classy football and mesmerising the opposition with
technically polished flair. I fear we're more likely to damage their games
and knock that out of them by forcing thwm into an alien kick rush and
hope.

Anyway,  best of luck everyone.
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[LU] Non LU Link

[Mark Pilling]

http://watchsportshd.blogspot.com/p/watch-star-sports-4-live-streaming-hd.html#.U4jdfijrxN9

http://watchsportshd.blogspot.com/p/watch-bein-sports-9-live-streaming-hd.html#.U4jaYSjryBp

work for me (Bein streams better but comms in Arabic)
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[LU] More Ipswich of bygone years

[Mark Pilling]

Have waxed lyrical on this hereant ...suffice to rechime that the 1-1 fa
cup draw in 1975 was the best atmosphere I have ever experienced at ER.

Love
nif
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[LU] Comms?

[Mark Pilling]

Hi gang

Commentary link anywhere?
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[LU] vote for norman

[Mark Pilling]

not normally my type of thing but

http://www1.skysports.com/pfa/28802/8549885/Norman-Hunter

looks like 3rd is best he can hope for but still
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[LU] comms

[Mark Pilling]

sorry dave

i used:
http://www.ustream.tv/new/search?q=leeds
and am listening to Leeds United Live streaming from Bergen in Norway

After years of subscriving to lutv...from the bad old days of dreadful
streams and buffers, i finally stopped last year because i didn't want to
give bates anything i think he didnt deserve...and the live streams are
better too.  Will reconsider though once the new owners prove they have the
clubs interests at heart
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[LU] Commentary?

[Mark Pilling]

Hi Gang

any ustream or the like for today?  (I'm not resubbing to LUTV till the
bearded one is gone)

saw warnock complaining about making all these phone calls to agents
representatives and clubs.  Wouldnt it just be a coupla dozen calls to ring
each prem manager and ask who's available?

Never mind

Come On You Whites (or are we blacks? Yellows? Blues? today?)

xxx
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[LU] 1-0

[Mark Pilling]

Lucciano Becchio FIRES it infrom one yard out!
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[LU] Anyone watching the game?

[Mark Pilling]

hi gang

whats going on?  from comms sounds like noone for leeds is doing anything
very inspiring so far.  Fair comment?
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[LU] whats the score

[Mark Pilling]

0-0 after 20mins
neither side really threatening
bromby damaged his knee badly
mcfrail looking class (?)
all courtesy of LUTV
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[LU] Fwd: commentary link

[Mark Pilling]

31 January 2012 23:47, Dr. Michael Benjamin. beden...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone want to give a summary of the first half?


From Eddie and Thom on LUTV

We murdered them for the first 10-15 mins and could have had 4 (becchio
missed two sitters and snods also could've had one).  After the goal we
maintained the pressure.  Bham gradually came into the game and it sounded
a real exciting, quality and even game.  Maybe we should be ahead.  Delph
doing well, Snods lively, Andros scaring them to death.
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Re: [LU] Revie

[Mark Pilling]

should've mentioned it was day before yesterday, Tuesday


link to don programme is bbc iplayer 5 live sport (i think the 9.30 pm
 edition) available till a week's up


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[LU] Max!

[Mark Pilling]

yes! 1-0  lets take this one
qpr lecicester good ding dong leicester/yokubu causing a threat
my question, can someone remind me of the modern day chat room, as irc has
been completely abandoned this season

cheers
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[LU] music q

[Mark Pilling]

dee-ell leeds, seems like a disease letting teams back into games!

What is music that supports the ringways ad?

cheers
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[LU] Do we finish strongly?

[Mark Pilling]

as tonight forest plucked a point out of the game in the 93rd minute, it
seemed like every week our rivals get points at the death.  So I checked.
For the league's top scorers, we clearly don't have that pushing on
confidence that the teams around us clearly do.


minute 40-45 85-90
leeds 14
norwich  412
cardiff 28
foest  45
qpr57
swnsea 48
leicster  66

cheers
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