Re: [LegacyUG] Photos

[Michael Slater]

Many thanks,
Regards

El dom., 21 de noviembre de 2021 20:52, Margaret Gagliardi <
megsge...@gmail.com> escribió:

> Under Tools - click on Media Relinker - click on Relink My Media.  This
> will look for your photo location and link them back.
> Good luck.
>
> On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 2:58 PM Michael Slater 
> wrote:
>
>> Folks, I had photos linked to most of the names in my Legacy Family Tree
>> then in one unfortunate situation my computer crashed and I had to re
>> install Legacy again.
>> I now have names without photos and would like some advice how to re join
>> those photos with the names without having to do it manually again.
>> Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated
>>
>> Regards
>> Michael
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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos

[Margaret Gagliardi]

Under Tools - click on Media Relinker - click on Relink My Media.  This
will look for your photo location and link them back.
Good luck.

On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 2:58 PM Michael Slater  wrote:

> Folks, I had photos linked to most of the names in my Legacy Family Tree
> then in one unfortunate situation my computer crashed and I had to re
> install Legacy again.
> I now have names without photos and would like some advice how to re join
> those photos with the names without having to do it manually again.
> Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated
>
> Regards
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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos

[Brian Kelly]

Only one picture can be printed for an individual or any other place a 
picture can be attached. To print those other three photos you will need 
to create three events for the person and then attach one picture to 
each event. The pictures can then be included with the events which you 
will have to include in your book.


Brian Kelly

On 03-Nov.-19 2:15 p.m., Trevor Good wrote:

Hi All.
My situation again relates to printing books. I have four photos in an 
individuals file with one chosen as preferred, and when I print a book 
where I've chosen to include photos, my book therefore prints the 
preferred photo.
My question is:- is there a way I can include the other three photos as 
well as the preferred photo in my printing of that book?

Trevor



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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos

[Ian Macaulay]

That is what I use.  I would not call it simple though.  But I guess it
might be.
I love the program,  especially the batch editor. but that is not a Legacy
issue  :-)

Ian

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 7:10 PM Peter Matthews 
wrote:

> If you use the free Irfanview, there is a menu option for lossless
> rotation (with one of its plugins - just download them all):
>
> Options > JPG Lossless Rotation
>
> Peter
>
> At 12:14 28-10-19 -0400, Ian Macaulay wrote:
>
> Yep, that is indeed true,  Can you provide a better simple method?
>
> Ian
>
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 11:45 AM David Paine  wrote:
>
>
> Regarding Ian Macaulay’s suggestion about rotating an image in a photo
> editor…
>
>  p;
>
> When rotating a jpeg image in many photo editors, the rotation is lossy
> which can cause minor image quality loss.
>
>   DavidP
> From: Ian Macaulay 
> Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 10:50 PM
> To: Legacy User Group 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photos
>
>
>
> Take it out and fix it in a photo editor and the plunck it back into the
> legacy.
>
>
>
> Ian
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 4:41 PM Trevor Good 
> wrote:
>
> Hi all you lovely people out there.
> My current problem is, I save a photo to my photo album, then when I
> want to load it into Legacy it saves on it's side, I rotate it to
> vertical, save as or carry out instructions as required but there is no
> way I can save as vertical, any help please.
> Regards
> Trevor
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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos

[Peter Matthews]

If you use the free Irfanview, there is a menu option for lossless rotation 
(with one of its plugins - just download them all):

Options > JPG Lossless Rotation

Peter

At 12:14 28-10-19 -0400, Ian Macaulay wrote:
Yep, that is indeed true,  Can you provide a better simple method?

Ian

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 11:45 AM David Paine 
mailto:dlp0...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Regarding Ian Macaulay’s suggestion about rotating an image in a photo editor…

 p;

When rotating a jpeg image in many photo editors, the rotation is lossy which 
can cause minor image quality loss.


DavidP
From: Ian Macaulay<mailto:macau...@icmac.ca>
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 10:50 PM
To: Legacy User Group<mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photos



Take it out and fix it in a photo editor and the plunck it back into the legacy.



Ian



On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 4:41 PM Trevor Good 
mailto:trevorgoo...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi all you lovely people out there.
My current problem is, I save a photo to my photo album, then when I
want to load it into Legacy it saves on it's side, I rotate it to
vertical, save as or carry out instructions as required but there is no
way I can save as vertical, any help please.
Regards
Trevor

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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos

[Chris Hill]

The problem with loss of quality saving JPG images is inherently 
built into the design of the JPG structure. That said, there are a 
couple of options.


1. If saving as JPG, the usual is to always ensure that you keep the 
quality level to Maximum. I have just looked a marriage record, 
downloaded from Ancestry, with Photoshop CS5 and used Save As to JPG. 
The Quality is defaulting to 8 (High) but can be raised to 12 (Maximum). 
The original file was sized as being 363KB; High suggests a size of 602K 
and Maximum suggests a size of 1300KB. The implication of that is that 
the original image was only at Quality size 3 (Low). I just created a 
Quality 12 version and did a Difference match against the original. Also 
saved it as Quality 3 and did compared that against the Quality 12 and 
the original versions. In all of the tests it did not show any 
differences that were visible. I rather suspect that it would be 
different if it was a full colour photograph.


2.The general rule with editing JPG images is to first convert it to 
a non-compressed image, such as .TIFF or .PSD. Then do all of the work 
on that and finally save it again to a .JPG.


I rather suspect that the quality of JPG editing is better now than 
it used to be. Certainly I can recall hearing about a photo being saved 
in JPG which removed the Red lights on the top of masts. Problems like 
this will generally happen if you make a number of edits to JPGs with 
multiple save and reopen steps between them, and more so if you use Low 
Quality.


Regards

Chris

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To: "Legacy User Group" 
Sent: 28/10/2019 16:14:32
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photos


Yep, that is indeed true,  Can you provide a better simple method?

Ian

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 11:45 AM David Paine  wrote:
Regarding Ian Macaulay’s suggestion about rotating an image in a photo 
editor…




When rotating a jpeg image in many photo editors, the rotation is 
lossy which can cause minor image quality loss.




DavidP
From: Ian Macaulay <mailto:macau...@icmac.ca>
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 10:50 PM
To: Legacy User Group <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photos



Take it out and fix it in a photo editor and the plunck it back into 
the legacy.




Ian



On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 4:41 PM Trevor Good  
wrote:



Hi all you lovely people out there.
My current problem is, I save a photo to my photo album, then when I
want to load it into Legacy it saves on it's side, I rotate it to
vertical, save as or carry out instructions as required but there is 
no

way I can save as vertical, any help please.
Regards
Trevor

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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos

[Sherry H]

I rotate pictures simply by right-clicking on the picture in Explore
and selecting to rotate right or rotate left.  No need to save it
either.

Sherry

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 9:15 AM Ian Macaulay  wrote:
>
> Yep, that is indeed true,  Can you provide a better simple method?
>
> Ian
>
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 11:45 AM David Paine  wrote:
>>
>> Regarding Ian Macaulay’s suggestion about rotating an image in a photo 
>> editor…
>>
>>
>>
>> When rotating a jpeg image in many photo editors, the rotation is lossy 
>> which can cause minor image quality loss.
>>
>>
>>
>> DavidP
>>
>> From: Ian Macaulay
>> Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 10:50 PM
>> To: Legacy User Group
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photos
>>
>>
>>
>> Take it out and fix it in a photo editor and the plunck it back into the 
>> legacy.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ian
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 4:41 PM Trevor Good  wrote:
>>
>> Hi all you lovely people out there.
>> My current problem is, I save a photo to my photo album, then when I
>> want to load it into Legacy it saves on it's side, I rotate it to
>> vertical, save as or carry out instructions as required but there is no
>> way I can save as vertical, any help please.
>> Regards
>> Trevor
>>

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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos

[Ian Macaulay]

Yep, that is indeed true,  Can you provide a better simple method?

Ian

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 11:45 AM David Paine  wrote:

> Regarding Ian Macaulay’s suggestion about rotating an image in a photo
> editor…
>
>
>
> When rotating a jpeg image in many photo editors, the rotation is lossy
> which can cause minor image quality loss.
>
>
>
>- DavidP
>
> *From: *Ian Macaulay 
> *Sent: *Sunday, October 27, 2019 10:50 PM
> *To: *Legacy User Group 
> *Subject: *Re: [LegacyUG] Photos
>
>
>
> Take it out and fix it in a photo editor and the plunck it back into the
> legacy.
>
>
>
> Ian
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 4:41 PM Trevor Good 
> wrote:
>
> Hi all you lovely people out there.
> My current problem is, I save a photo to my photo album, then when I
> want to load it into Legacy it saves on it's side, I rotate it to
> vertical, save as or carry out instructions as required but there is no
> way I can save as vertical, any help please.
> Regards
> Trevor
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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos

[David Paine]

Regarding Ian Macaulay’s suggestion about rotating an image in a photo editor…

When rotating a jpeg image in many photo editors, the rotation is lossy which 
can cause minor image quality loss.

- DavidP
From: Ian Macaulay
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 10:50 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photos

Take it out and fix it in a photo editor and the plunck it back into the legacy.

Ian

On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 4:41 PM Trevor Good  wrote:
Hi all you lovely people out there.
My current problem is, I save a photo to my photo album, then when I 
want to load it into Legacy it saves on it's side, I rotate it to 
vertical, save as or carry out instructions as required but there is no 
way I can save as vertical, any help please.
Regards
Trevor

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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos

[Cathy Pinner]

Trevor

You may need to check whether the photo editor you are using is using 
the EXIF data to orientate the photo. Legacy doesn't as far as I know. 
So you may need to turn that off in your photo editor settings and then 
rotate and save it.


Cathy


Trevor Good 
Monday, 28 October 2019 4:40 AM
Hi all you lovely people out there.
My current problem is, I save a photo to my photo album, then when I 
want to load it into Legacy it saves on it's side, I rotate it to 
vertical, save as or carry out instructions as required but there is 
no way I can save as vertical, any help please.

Regards
Trevor




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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos

[Ian Macaulay]

Take it out and fix it in a photo editor and the plunck it back into the
legacy.

Ian

On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 4:41 PM Trevor Good  wrote:

> Hi all you lovely people out there.
> My current problem is, I save a photo to my photo album, then when I
> want to load it into Legacy it saves on it's side, I rotate it to
> vertical, save as or carry out instructions as required but there is no
> way I can save as vertical, any help please.
> Regards
> Trevor
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos in Legacy

[Jenny M Benson]

On 5/21/2016 7:28 PM, Cathryn McDonald wrote:

Heritage Pro is inexpensive, works well with Legacy for photos.


Did you mean Heritage Collector Suite?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos in Legacy

[Walter V. Munza]

What is Heritage Pro? Couldn't find it on the net. Is it some kind of photo
software for genealogy?

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On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 5:24 PM, June <mai_l...@aapt.net.au> wrote:

> I currently use Picassa although would like to try another programme. Does
> Heritage Pro handle all photos on my computer or is it just a programme to
> handle those photos that I want to connect to my family history and Legacy?
>
>
>
> Thank you - June
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Cathryn McDonald
> *Sent:* Sunday, 22 May 2016 4:28 AM
> *To:* Legacy User Group
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Photos in Legacy
>
>
>
> Heritage Pro is inexpensive, works well with Legacy for photos.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 10:55 PM, Norris Taylor <silverfox...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Are you talking about jpgs of documents, like census records and the like?
> Or, photos of people in your family?
>
> If the latter, I'd suggest a genealogy program probably isn't the best
> solution for you. I'd try a program that allows you to tag photos into
> different groupings. Windows Photo Gallery actually doesn't do a bad job,
> and Google Photos works as well. I tried Picatta awhile back and didn't
> like it, but I don't remember why.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos in Legacy

[June]

I currently use Picassa although would like to try another programme. Does 
Heritage Pro handle all photos on my computer or is it just a programme to 
handle those photos that I want to connect to my family history and Legacy?

 

Thank you - June  

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cathryn McDonald
Sent: Sunday, 22 May 2016 4:28 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photos in Legacy

 

Heritage Pro is inexpensive, works well with Legacy for photos.

 

 

 

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 10:55 PM, Norris Taylor <silverfox...@gmail.com> wrote:

Are you talking about jpgs of documents, like census records and the like? Or, 
photos of people in your family?

If the latter, I'd suggest a genealogy program probably isn't the best solution 
for you. I'd try a program that allows you to tag photos into different 
groupings. Windows Photo Gallery actually doesn't do a bad job, and Google 
Photos works as well. I tried Picatta awhile back and didn't like it, but I 
don't remember why.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos in Legacy

[Cathryn McDonald]

Heritage Pro is inexpensive, works well with Legacy for photos.



On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 10:55 PM, Norris Taylor 
wrote:

> Are you talking about jpgs of documents, like census records and the like?
> Or, photos of people in your family?
>
> If the latter, I'd suggest a genealogy program probably isn't the best
> solution for you. I'd try a program that allows you to tag photos into
> different groupings. Windows Photo Gallery actually doesn't do a bad job,
> and Google Photos works as well. I tried Picatta awhile back and didn't
> like it, but I don't remember why.
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 9:13 PM, Poppke Genealogy <
> nodakgeneal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have not linked any photos to my tree yet.
>> Have about 16,000 names.
>>
>> I have several thousand digital images.
>> Is Legacy efficient at handling this number?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ted
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos in Legacy

[Henry T. Peterson Jr.]

The photos print nicely in various reports…They are not my photo collection 
(all have been reduced to a size that is practical for website publication.)

 

Henry

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Norris Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 10:56 PM
To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photos in Legacy

 

Are you talking about jpgs of documents, like census records and the like? Or, 
photos of people in your family?

If the latter, I'd suggest a genealogy program probably isn't the best solution 
for you. I'd try a program that allows you to tag photos into different 
groupings. Windows Photo Gallery actually doesn't do a bad job, and Google 
Photos works as well. I tried Picatta awhile back and didn't like it, but I 
don't remember why.



 

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 9:13 PM, Poppke Genealogy <nodakgeneal...@gmail.com 
<mailto:nodakgeneal...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hello, 

 

I have not linked any photos to my tree yet.

Have about 16,000 names.

 

I have several thousand digital images.

Is Legacy efficient at handling this number?

 

Thanks, 

 

Ted

 


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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos in Legacy

[Henry T. Peterson Jr.]

I have people, tombs, entrances to gravesites and cemeteries, couples, 
hospitals, etc;

Henry

 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 10:56 PM
To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photos in Legacy

 

Are you talking about jpgs of documents, like census records and the like? Or, 
photos of people in your family?

If the latter, I'd suggest a genealogy program probably isn't the best solution 
for you. I'd try a program that allows you to tag photos into different 
groupings. Windows Photo Gallery actually doesn't do a bad job, and Google 
Photos works as well. I tried Picatta awhile back and didn't like it, but I 
don't remember why.



 

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 9:13 PM, Poppke Genealogy <nodakgeneal...@gmail.com 
<mailto:nodakgeneal...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hello, 

 

I have not linked any photos to my tree yet.

Have about 16,000 names.

 

I have several thousand digital images.

Is Legacy efficient at handling this number?

 

Thanks, 

 

Ted

 


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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos in Legacy

[Leon Chapman]

That should work as long as drive G exits on both computers and you have the 
pictures in the same file structure. 

 I link my pictures and DB in a folders in DropBox and can access them using 
different computers.

Chap
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> On May 18, 2016, at 7:28 PM, Poppke Genealogy  
> wrote:
> 
> I also plan on screwing the system up by keeping the photos on a 1 TB 
> removable USB drive, and keeping the path the same on the two computers I use 
> - probably a G:\ drive.
> 
>> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 9:22 PM, Leon Chapman  wrote:
>> Ted
>> 
>> Legacy just links to your pictures on your hard drive.
>> I have several thousands of pictures linked to people and events in my 
>> 40,000 person database.  I have not encountered any problems linking 
>> pictures.
>> 
>> Chap
>> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> Leon Chapman
>> chap...@gmail.com
>> ⛳
>> 
>> 
>> > On May 18, 2016, at 7:13 PM, Poppke Genealogy  
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I have not linked any photos to my tree yet.
>> > Have about 16,000 names.
>> >
>> > I have several thousand digital images.
>> > Is Legacy efficient at handling this number?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Ted
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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos in Legacy

[Henry T. Peterson Jr.]

Ted

I have over 480,000 and over 14,000 photos

Yes

Legacy can easily handle your file.

 

Henry

 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 9:13 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Photos in Legacy

 

Hello, 

 

I have not linked any photos to my tree yet.

Have about 16,000 names.

 

I have several thousand digital images.

Is Legacy efficient at handling this number?

 

Thanks, 

 

Ted

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos in Legacy

[Poppke Genealogy]

I also plan on screwing the system up by keeping the photos on a 1 TB
removable USB drive, and keeping the path the same on the two computers I
use - probably a G:\ drive.

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 9:22 PM, Leon Chapman  wrote:

> Ted
>
> Legacy just links to your pictures on your hard drive.
> I have several thousands of pictures linked to people and events in my
> 40,000 person database.  I have not encountered any problems linking
> pictures.
>
> Chap
> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
> Leon Chapman
> chap...@gmail.com
> ⛳
>
>
> > On May 18, 2016, at 7:13 PM, Poppke Genealogy 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have not linked any photos to my tree yet.
> > Have about 16,000 names.
> >
> > I have several thousand digital images.
> > Is Legacy efficient at handling this number?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Ted
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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos in Legacy

[Leon Chapman]

Ted

Legacy just links to your pictures on your hard drive.
I have several thousands of pictures linked to people and events in my 40,000 
person database.  I have not encountered any problems linking pictures.

Chap
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> On May 18, 2016, at 7:13 PM, Poppke Genealogy  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello, 
> 
> I have not linked any photos to my tree yet.
> Have about 16,000 names.
> 
> I have several thousand digital images.
> Is Legacy efficient at handling this number?
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Ted
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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos not appearing in Legacy Charting

[Cathy Pinner]

Hi Ian,
Take a look in Legacy at View  Master Lists - Media Paths
If any of the paths begin [Default Media Folder] that's where the
problem is.
This is a problem that was supposed to be fixed in a recent update but
it was only fixed if the [Default Media Folder] is Documents\Legacy
Family Tree\Media - that is, the Legacy default rather than your default
listed at Option 6.2 - however, although that is working in the current
Beta, it's not working in the the 427 release of Legacy.

The work around is to do a Search and Replace on the Media Folder path
and replace [Default Media Folder]\ with the actual path.

Cathy

 Ian Beach mailto:ianbe...@hotmail.com
 Thursday, 22 May 2014 9:27 AM
 I have a problem with Legacy Charting where some photos don’t appear
 in the
 charts. It only happens with photos that I’ve added recently and I’ve
 only
 noticed it with the last couple of builds of Legacy (currently running
 v8.0.0.427)

 The photos appear correctly on the Family View and also in Reports,
 it’s only
 when I try Legacy Charting that the problem happens.

 I’ve been using the same photo editing program for quite a while (JPG
 format) so
 I’m 99% sure it’s not that that is causing the problem.

 Any ideas?

 Thanks

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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos not appearing in Legacy Charting

[Ian Beach]

Hello Cathy

You're an angel :)

Thanks for the help.

Ian

On 22/05/2014 11:14 AM, Cathy Pinner wrote:
 Hi Ian,
 Take a look in Legacy at View  Master Lists - Media Paths
 If any of the paths begin [Default Media Folder] that's where the
 problem is.
 This is a problem that was supposed to be fixed in a recent update but
 it was only fixed if the [Default Media Folder] is Documents\Legacy
 Family Tree\Media - that is, the Legacy default rather than your default
 listed at Option 6.2 - however, although that is working in the current
 Beta, it's not working in the the 427 release of Legacy.

 The work around is to do a Search and Replace on the Media Folder path
 and replace [Default Media Folder]\ with the actual path.

 Cathy

 Ian Beach mailto:ianbe...@hotmail.com
 Thursday, 22 May 2014 9:27 AM
 I have a problem with Legacy Charting where some photos don’t appear
 in the
 charts. It only happens with photos that I’ve added recently and I’ve
 only
 noticed it with the last couple of builds of Legacy (currently running
 v8.0.0.427)

 The photos appear correctly on the Family View and also in Reports,
 it’s only
 when I try Legacy Charting that the problem happens.

 I’ve been using the same photo editing program for quite a while (JPG
 format) so
 I’m 99% sure it’s not that that is causing the problem.

 Any ideas?

 Thanks

 Ian




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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos, book and Legacy

[Paula Ryburn]

Paulette,
This plan sounds wonderful!!  I hope it all goes well with you.
I need to keep this idea in mind when I next get together with my mom and my 
aunt.
 
--Paula in Texas
Researching:  Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman 
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field 
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle 
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche 
Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams



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Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photos, book and Legacy



Shirley, I got the idea from Cheryl Singhals.  She suggested in her message to 
hold each picture facing the camera/recorder and to talk about it.  I have 
since learned that the Family History Library has a oral history room 
available to members and non-members of the Church.  It would be the ideal 
situation because the conditions (sound, etc..) would be perfect but I feel 
that a home camcorder and a tripod would do a decent job.  The Hospices 
(non-profit, volunteers organization) of my hometown have also a oral history 
program.
 
I love the idea.  In a few minutes old memories can be brought back and 
recorded when the same information would take me for ever to put in a book form 
(grammar, spelling, formatting). My children have also offered to come and 
interview me.  It would take several sessions and would create even more 
memories!
 
Paulette

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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos, book and Legacy

[Paulette Martinez]

 file is and what it contains
 down to the last jot and tittle.

 ** **

 Hope this provides a different perspective for you.

 ** **

 Greg

 ** **

 *From:* Syble Glasscock [mailto:syble_...@yahoo.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:56 PM
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Photos, book and Legacy

 ** **

 I applaud you for trying to preserve the family photos and history, it
 sounds like you have a good start in the right directions.

 Syble

   *From:* Paulette Martinez rivo...@gmail.com
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, August 22, 2013 12:36 PM
 *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Photos, book and Legacy

 ** **

 I have inherited from my sister a box of old unmarked family pictures
 going back to 1900.  I am the elder of the family and the only one
 left with the undocumented memories.  I know I should scan the pictures,
 but right now I am looking for a fast and easy way to organize the
 pictures, labels them with name, years, place, and to write what I knew and
 remember about my ancestors and their families while using Legacy.  I need
 to do it right the first time.  I cannot spend a lot of time learning
 software because, I can learn...but I can forget very fast also.  I am 80,
 on palliative care for cancer, so time is an issue.  Is there a miracle way
 to do it?

 Right now I have sorted the pictures by year/grand-parents lines and am
 writing in the back of each picture (in pencil 02).  I will then put them
 in archival photo albums with intercalary typed  pages of my
 memories/knowledge, researches finds, in addition to the habitual facts
 (birth, marriage, etc...).  I am thinking of typing the insert in the notes
 of each marriage/individuals of Legacy and then print only the notes.  Am I
 going in the right direction or is there a better way.

  

 If there is time left I will scan the pictures and make a CD to share my
 genealogy with my children, grand-children, nephews and nieces.  Right now
 I want to preserve the pictures and the memories.

  

 I am hoping I am not hors-subject.  I know you are all so knowledgeable.
 Thank you for sharing.

  

 Paulette

  

 One more question :).  What do you do with facts such they divorced and
 witnesses testified having seen her with other men (divorce judgment in
 1907).  Hide the fact in consideration of the descendants feelings?




 



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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos, book and Legacy

[Shirley Richardson]

Having followed your thread Paulette, I am now wondering how to create an oral 
document.

Kind Regards
Shirley
NZ
  - Original Message -
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  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 9:01 PM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photos, book and Legacy


  I want to thank everyone who replied to my question.  I like the idea of 
using oral history to document my pictures and I am looking into it.  I am so 
glad I asked!  Thank you all.
  Paulette



  On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:16 PM, gregory.wint...@pc-bs.com 
gregory.wint...@pc-bs.com wrote:

Paulette:



You’ve touched upon another aspect of genealogy software that I was going 
to bring up in a separate thread, but you’ve beaten me to the punch!  J  As far 
as I know, there isn’t a single genealogy product on the market that will 
manage an artifacts database alongside the data contained in records of 
individuals.  Those products which do include some sort of direct connection 
are extremely lightweight when it comes to the specifics of documentation 
management.  I don’t fault the makers of these products – it really would be 
quite an undertaking to include such functionality in a genealogy product.  
However, having to maintain your own separate repository of documentation then 
link it to your database can be tricky if you haven’t thought it all the way 
through.



For my part, I use ACDSee Pro as my repository, because anything and 
everything that I’ve ever used to support the entries in my family tree 
database (it’s been FTM so far, but I’m considering Legacy now) has been 
digitally scanned, including ‘3D’ physical objects, such as my father’s army 
dogtags and war ribbons, my grandmother’s reading glasses, etc.  ACDSee is a 
first-rate product for photo management, so the ability to enter metadata into 
the header of the digital file and have the interface assist with an organized 
display is wonderful.  Gone is the need to rely upon clumsy operating systems 
subject to the whims of Cupertino and Redmond:  photo metadata has been 
standardized for a long time and there are countless imaging management 
applications which adhere to the system.



This means that I no longer have to deal with that awful directory/file 
system that has never been revised since the days of DOS.  Instead, all I have 
to do is create volumes (labeled simply 001, 002, 003, etc.) and can use 
generic filenames (10001.tif, etc.).  All of the information about the file – 
including extensive captions – in included in the header (meaning it goes 
wherever the file goes) and is displayed in ACDSee.  In short, I have built a 
complete digital library that currently contains nearly 10K digital files.  In 
my genealogy software, I simply refer to the members of the archive by the 
labels I’ve used for the files:  there is no need to know anything else.  Then, 
where the physical items are stored, I have a simple labeling system that 
corresponds to that of ACDSee.  Thus, I can place a dogtag next to a photo next 
to a high school diploma next to a marriage license – it doesn’t matter.  I 
retrieve by search engine and filename, not by ‘type.’



Once you really get down to it, if you attempt to organize the images by 
concept, you’re going to run into a lot of trouble.  So many artifacts have 
multiple uses that it’s basically impossible to come up with a system that you 
can be consistent in without a lot of interaction and micro-management.  For 
example, you would normally believe that an obituary is simply a death notice, 
so you might create some sort of ‘Obituaries’ folder.  Fine.  However, the type 
of physical artifact that an item is pales in comparison to the way that it is 
utilized in your database.  As you know, obits can contain a great deal of 
information – beyond the death of the subject.  I have used obits as sources 
for births, marriages, locations, and a host of other data elements. Yet, if I 
were to file the item away as an obit, I would have to make sure that the item 
type (at least) were a part of my citation information stream.  By being able 
to cite the item directly, however, the type of citation becomes simply a way 
of understanding how the information was originally derived:  no document has 
an intrinsic confidence level.



I’ve heard it said that the reason that the software developers don’t go 
full out and create functionality in their products that manages digital files 
is because there still seems to be a lot of controversy in regard to the 
‘authenticity’ of a digital source.  Many genealogists still believe that a 
digital image does not comprise a ‘true’ source, so there is no reason to 
expand the role of the genealogy software into management of these items.  I 
can respect this viewpoint, but that hasn’t stopped me from creating my own 
database.  In the old days, there was a lot of verbiage associated with records 
because without it, locating

Re: [LegacyUG] Photos, book and Legacy

[Paulette Martinez]

Shirley, I got the idea from Cheryl Singhals.  She suggested in her message
to hold each picture facing the camera/recorder and to talk about it.  I
have since learned that the Family History Library has a oral history
room available to members and non-members of the Church.  It would be the
ideal situation because the conditions (sound, etc..) would be perfect but
I feel that a home camcorder and a tripod would do a decent job.  The
Hospices (non-profit, volunteers organization) of my hometown have also a
oral history program.

I love the idea.  In a few minutes old memories can be brought back and
recorded when the same information would take me for ever to put in a book
form (grammar, spelling, formatting). My children have also offered to come
and interview me.  It would take several sessions and would create even
more memories!

Paulette


On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Shirley Richardson 
shirleyr...@clear.net.nz wrote:

 **
 Having followed your thread Paulette, I am now wondering how to create an
 oral document.

 Kind Regards
 Shirley
 NZ

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Paulette Martinez rivo...@gmail.com
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Sent:* Wednesday, August 28, 2013 9:01 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Photos, book and Legacy

  I want to thank everyone who replied to my question.  I like the idea of
 using oral history to document my pictures and I am looking into it.  I am
 so glad I asked!  Thank you all.
 Paulette


 On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:16 PM, gregory.wint...@pc-bs.com 
 gregory.wint...@pc-bs.com wrote:

  Paulette:

 

 You’ve touched upon another aspect of genealogy software that I was going
 to bring up in a separate thread, but you’ve beaten me to the punch!  J As 
 far as I know, there isn’t a single genealogy product on the market
 that will manage an artifacts database alongside the data contained in
 records of individuals.  Those products which do include some sort of
 direct connection are extremely lightweight when it comes to the specifics
 of documentation management.  I don’t fault the makers of these products –
 it really would be quite an undertaking to include such functionality in a
 genealogy product.  However, having to maintain your own separate
 repository of documentation then link it to your database can be tricky if
 you haven’t thought it all the way through.

 

 For my part, I use ACDSee Pro as my repository, because anything and
 everything that I’ve ever used to support the entries in my family tree
 database (it’s been FTM so far, but I’m considering Legacy now) has been
 digitally scanned, including ‘3D’ physical objects, such as my father’s
 army dogtags and war ribbons, my grandmother’s reading glasses, etc.
 ACDSee is a first-rate product for photo management, so the ability to
 enter metadata into the header of the digital file and have the interface
 assist with an organized display is wonderful.  Gone is the need to rely
 upon clumsy operating systems subject to the whims of Cupertino and
 Redmond:  photo metadata has been standardized for a long time and there
 are countless imaging management applications which adhere to the system.
 

 

 This means that I no longer have to deal with that awful directory/file
 system that has never been revised since the days of DOS.  Instead, all I
 have to do is create volumes (labeled simply 001, 002, 003, etc.) and can
 use generic filenames (10001.tif, etc.).  All of the information about the
 file – including extensive captions – in included in the header (meaning it
 goes wherever the file goes) and is displayed in ACDSee.  In short, I have
 built a complete digital library that currently contains nearly 10K digital
 files.  In my genealogy software, I simply refer to the members of the
 archive by the labels I’ve used for the files:  there is no need to know
 anything else.  Then, where the physical items are stored, I have a simple
 labeling system that corresponds to that of ACDSee.  Thus, I can place a
 dogtag next to a photo next to a high school diploma next to a marriage
 license – it doesn’t matter.  I retrieve by search engine and filename, not
 by ‘type.’

 

 Once you really get down to it, if you attempt to organize the images by
 concept, you’re going to run into a lot of trouble.  So many artifacts have
 multiple uses that it’s basically impossible to come up with a system that
 you can be consistent in without a lot of interaction and
 micro-management.  For example, you would normally believe that an obituary
 is simply a death notice, so you might create some sort of ‘Obituaries’
 folder.  Fine.  However, the type of physical artifact that an item is
 pales in comparison to the way that it is utilized in your database.  As
 you know, obits can contain a great deal of information – beyond the death
 of the subject.  I have used obits as sources for births, marriages,
 locations, and a host of other data elements. Yet, if I were to file

Re: [LegacyUG] Photos, book and Legacy

[singhals]

I'm sorry to hear of your medical status. We barely avoided
that bullet recently on a relative's 4th bout with the
Big-C.  I know exactly how tired you are.

So, believe me when I suggest you're trying to bite off more
than you can chew alone.  If you belong to a religious group
of any flavor, ask your youth counselor for help, or get
some Boy Scouts or Girl Scouts involved!  NOW!

You need one to scan or photograph the pictures.  Any old
order, and probably a number is better at this stage
(Photo_0001.jpg  for instance) because it allows clarity.
Carefully print that number on the back of each photo as
it's taken.

You need one to run a cam-corder of some variety, even
his/her smartphone, while you talk about each photo after it
has been copied.  Be sure you turn the photo toward the
camera at least once while you're talking about it.

Meanwhile, perhaps an adult can work with you to get the
data into Legacy and attach the images and media.

If you're still up to it, now you can or someone can for you
transcribe those oral memories to be printed with each
photo.  Actually, if they've used their smartphone, you
could simply burn the talks and the images onto a DVD to be
given your heirs and one to the local Historical Society.
(Who might, BTW, be willing to transcribe the talks?).

As for the details of the divorce hearings?  I would simply
say they divorced and say when and where.  The fact that you
gave the when and where should be clue enough to the
interested to pursue it (g) without being in-yer-face to
their children's descendants.

IMO.

Remember to rest lots and EAT! Especially if you're not hungry.

Cheryl

Paulette Martinez wrote:
 I have inherited from my sister a box of old unmarked family
 pictures going back to 1900.  I am the elder of the family
 and the only one left with the undocumented memories.  I
 know I should scan the pictures, but right now I am looking
 for a fast and easy way to organize the pictures, labels
 them with name, years, place, and to write what I knew and
 remember about my ancestors and their families while using
 Legacy.  I need to do it right the first time.  I cannot
 spend a lot of time learning software because, I can
 learn...but I can forget very fast also.  I am 80, on
 palliative care for cancer, so time is an issue.  Is there a
 miracle way to do it?
 Right now I have sorted the pictures by year/grand-parents
 lines and am writing in the back of each picture (in pencil
 02).  I will then put them in archival photo albums with
 intercalary typed  pages of my memories/knowledge,
 researches finds, in addition to the habitual facts (birth,
 marriage, etc...).  I am thinking of typing the insert in
 the notes of each marriage/individuals of Legacy and then
 print only the notes.  Am I going in the right direction or
 is there a better way.
 If there is time left I will scan the pictures and make a CD
 to share my genealogy with my children, grand-children,
 nephews and nieces.  Right now I want to preserve the
 pictures and the memories.
 I am hoping I am not hors-subject.  I know you are all so
 knowledgeable.  Thank you for sharing.
 Paulette
 One more question :).  What do you do with facts such they
 divorced and  witnesses testified having seen her with other
 men (divorce judgment in 1907).  Hide the fact in
 consideration of the descendants feelings?




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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos, book and Legacy

[Michael Slater]

Paulette, may I suggest that you contact your nearest Family History Center
and ask them to get some Family History Consultants involved with helping
you.
I know they will do it with pleasure.
Take care


On 22 August 2013 13:36, Paulette Martinez rivo...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have inherited from my sister a box of old unmarked family pictures
 going back to 1900.  I am the elder of the family and the only one
 left with the undocumented memories.  I know I should scan the pictures,
 but right now I am looking for a fast and easy way to organize the
 pictures, labels them with name, years, place, and to write what I knew and
 remember about my ancestors and their families while using Legacy.  I need
 to do it right the first time.  I cannot spend a lot of time learning
 software because, I can learn...but I can forget very fast also.  I am 80,
 on palliative care for cancer, so time is an issue.  Is there a miracle way
 to do it?
 Right now I have sorted the pictures by year/grand-parents lines and am
 writing in the back of each picture (in pencil 02).  I will then put them
 in archival photo albums with intercalary typed  pages of my
 memories/knowledge, researches finds, in addition to the habitual facts
 (birth, marriage, etc...).  I am thinking of typing the insert in the notes
 of each marriage/individuals of Legacy and then print only the notes.  Am I
 going in the right direction or is there a better way.

 If there is time left I will scan the pictures and make a CD to share my
 genealogy with my children, grand-children, nephews and nieces.  Right now
 I want to preserve the pictures and the memories.

 I am hoping I am not hors-subject.  I know you are all so knowledgeable.
 Thank you for sharing.

 Paulette

 One more question :).  What do you do with facts such they divorced and
 witnesses testified having seen her with other men (divorce judgment in
 1907).  Hide the fact in consideration of the descendants feelings?


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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos, book and Legacy

[Syble Glasscock]

I applaud you for trying to preserve the family photos and history, it sounds 
like you have a good start in the right directions.
Syble



 From: Paulette Martinez rivo...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 12:36 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Photos, book and Legacy



I have inherited from my sister a box of old unmarked family pictures going 
back to 1900.  I am the elder of the family and the only one left with the 
undocumented memories.  I know I should scan the pictures, but right now I am 
looking for a fast and easy way to organize the pictures, labels them with 
name, years, place, and to write what I knew and remember about my ancestors 
and their families while using Legacy.  I need to do it right the first time.  
I cannot spend a lot of time learning software because, I can learn...but I 
can forget very fast also.  I am 80, on palliative care for cancer, so time is 
an issue.  Is there a miracle way to do it?
Right now I have sorted the pictures by year/grand-parents lines and am 
writing in the back of each picture (in pencil 02).  I will then put them in 
archival photo albums with intercalary typed  pages of my memories/knowledge, 
researches finds, in addition to the habitual facts (birth, marriage, etc...). 
 I am thinking of typing the insert in the notes of each marriage/individuals 
of Legacy and then print only the notes.  Am I going in the right direction or 
is there a better way.

If there is time left I will scan the pictures and make a CD to share my 
genealogy with my children, grand-children, nephews and nieces.  Right now I 
want to preserve the pictures and the memories.
 
I am hoping I am not hors-subject.  I know you are all so knowledgeable.  
Thank you for sharing.

Paulette

One more question :).  What do you do with facts such they divorced and  
witnesses testified having seen her with other men (divorce judgment in 
1907).  Hide the fact in consideration of the descendants feelings?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos, book and Legacy

[Carl Cox]

BYU has a scanner that will scan all the pictures at one scan per second or 
faster to a thumb drive. You could identify the back, then keep them in the 
same order so that you can display front and back together while you add the 
details in whatever way works. The BYU scanning is free, and probably someone 
at your local Family History Center would know of a way to get them done. Or 
you might find such a scanner at your location, knowing such machines are 
available.
Carl

I have inherited from my sister a box of old unmarked family pictures going 
back to 1900.  I am the elder of the family and the only one left with the 
undocumented memories.  I know I should scan the pictures, 


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RE: [LegacyUG] Photos, book and Legacy

[gregory.wint...@pc-bs.com]

Paulette:

You’ve touched upon another aspect of genealogy software that I was going to 
bring up in a separate thread, but you’ve beaten me to the punch!  ☺  As far as 
I know, there isn’t a single genealogy product on the market that will manage 
an artifacts database alongside the data contained in records of individuals.  
Those products which do include some sort of direct connection are extremely 
lightweight when it comes to the specifics of documentation management.  I 
don’t fault the makers of these products – it really would be quite an 
undertaking to include such functionality in a genealogy product.  However, 
having to maintain your own separate repository of documentation then link it 
to your database can be tricky if you haven’t thought it all the way through.

For my part, I use ACDSee Pro as my repository, because anything and everything 
that I’ve ever used to support the entries in my family tree database (it’s 
been FTM so far, but I’m considering Legacy now) has been digitally scanned, 
including ‘3D’ physical objects, such as my father’s army dogtags and war 
ribbons, my grandmother’s reading glasses, etc.  ACDSee is a first-rate product 
for photo management, so the ability to enter metadata into the header of the 
digital file and have the interface assist with an organized display is 
wonderful.  Gone is the need to rely upon clumsy operating systems subject to 
the whims of Cupertino and Redmond:  photo metadata has been standardized for a 
long time and there are countless imaging management applications which adhere 
to the system.

This means that I no longer have to deal with that awful directory/file system 
that has never been revised since the days of DOS.  Instead, all I have to do 
is create volumes (labeled simply 001, 002, 003, etc.) and can use generic 
filenames (10001.tif, etc.).  All of the information about the file – including 
extensive captions – in included in the header (meaning it goes wherever the 
file goes) and is displayed in ACDSee.  In short, I have built a complete 
digital library that currently contains nearly 10K digital files.  In my 
genealogy software, I simply refer to the members of the archive by the labels 
I’ve used for the files:  there is no need to know anything else.  Then, where 
the physical items are stored, I have a simple labeling system that corresponds 
to that of ACDSee.  Thus, I can place a dogtag next to a photo next to a high 
school diploma next to a marriage license – it doesn’t matter.  I retrieve by 
search engine and filename, not by ‘type.’

Once you really get down to it, if you attempt to organize the images by 
concept, you’re going to run into a lot of trouble.  So many artifacts have 
multiple uses that it’s basically impossible to come up with a system that you 
can be consistent in without a lot of interaction and micro-management.  For 
example, you would normally believe that an obituary is simply a death notice, 
so you might create some sort of ‘Obituaries’ folder.  Fine.  However, the type 
of physical artifact that an item is pales in comparison to the way that it is 
utilized in your database.  As you know, obits can contain a great deal of 
information – beyond the death of the subject.  I have used obits as sources 
for births, marriages, locations, and a host of other data elements. Yet, if I 
were to file the item away as an obit, I would have to make sure that the item 
type (at least) were a part of my citation information stream.  By being able 
to cite the item directly, however, the type of citation becomes simply a way 
of understanding how the information was originally derived:  no document has 
an intrinsic confidence level.

I’ve heard it said that the reason that the software developers don’t go full 
out and create functionality in their products that manages digital files is 
because there still seems to be a lot of controversy in regard to the 
‘authenticity’ of a digital source.  Many genealogists still believe that a 
digital image does not comprise a ‘true’ source, so there is no reason to 
expand the role of the genealogy software into management of these items.  I 
can respect this viewpoint, but that hasn’t stopped me from creating my own 
database.  In the old days, there was a lot of verbiage associated with records 
because without it, locating, retrieving, and placing the artifact in question 
would be very difficult.  With the miracle of modern technology, however, a 
good database product with a solid search engine is all you need.  Your 
repository software becomes a sort of ‘secretary’ who knows where each and 
every file is and what it contains down to the last jot and tittle.

Hope this provides a different perspective for you.

Greg

From: Syble Glasscock [mailto:syble_...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:56 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photos, book and Legacy

I applaud you for trying to preserve the family photos

Re: [LegacyUG] Photos of Living individuals

[Sherry/Support]

That's not possible. Picture are considered details.

You can send in a suggestion using the form on our website
www.LegacyFamilyTree.com  Help Center  Make a Suggestion.

A link to that site is also the Support section of the Legacy Home tab.
Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Leslie Jackson l...@provide.net wrote:

 **
 I'm putting together a folder of Family Group Records (FGR) and I need to
 suppress the details of those still alive(Easily Done). My situation
 is that I want to override the privacy settings to include the photos I
 have of the living people. Anybody have any ideas?
 Is there a data file I could edit so that the photos of the living will
 print? Presently, when I generate my FGR the photos will not print.
 Any help would be appreciated.
 Les





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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos not embedded in the reports

[Ellen]

Cheryl, the User IDs are working fine.  We just didn't want to have to delete 
MRINs that we pre-selected not to print.  Our main issue is getting the photos 
and scans to show up in computers other than the one that the .rtf or .doc was 
produced on.  The publisher will need to be able to see and print those photos. 
 We hate the thought of having to embed each one manually.

God bless,
Ellen

On May 25, 2013, at 8:13 PM, singhals wrote:

 Ellen wrote:
 We are nearing the end of preparation of a book series on the family.  It 
 will be over 2500 pages and cover 23 different immigrant lines. However, we 
 are noticing that photos only show up in the RTFs in the computer where we 
 are initiating the reports.  We cannot see photos in RTFs or DOCs that we 
 load and bring back from Dropbox or from documents loaded onto a thumbdrive. 
  It doesn't matter if we are doing this on the same or a different computer. 
  We have check marked the option to embed photos, but it isn't working.  We 
 have hundreds of photos, have made zillions of modifications in the reports 
 and cannot go back and rerun reports anymore.  What other options can we do 
 now?  What other options can we do in the future?

 We found that we cannot use Word 2010 to do the reports because the files 
 are way too large and Word stops responding and saving.  We have to use Word 
 2003 or 2007.  It would be nice for Legacy 8 to come out and upgrade to the 
 newer Word.  It doesn't matter if we are going between Word versions or 
 using the same one.

 Would someone either respond publicly or privately to me.  We are supposed 
 to send the 23 lines and introduction to the publisher by the end of this 
 week.

 Also we noticed that despite the fact that we checked to only include User 
 ID numbers, the MRINS are showing up in the reports anyway.  We have spent 
 TONS of hours just removing the MRINs alone.  Any idea how to get them not 
 to show up in the reports?

 IME: if you want User IDs you'll have dele the MRINs
 manually.  Better also look at the index entries, because,
 again IME, they'll have the RIN attached no matter what
 you've checked.  My personal logic would suggest that if the
 user wants User IDs, perhaps he'd like them in the index as
 well, but apparently programmers don't see it that way.

 And, IME, Word2003 didn't distinguish itself by its
 behaviour trying to edit a document about half the size of
 yours.  If you can make it behave for your doc, please send
 me off-list instructions, because I'm going to have to do it
 again soon. :(

 Cheryl



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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos not embedded in the reports

[Margaret Turner]

I think the maximum file size of a Word 2010 file is 32 Mb.
This is a Word limitation not a Legacy problem as Legacy is generating
it as a generic RTF file.

Maybe the original RTF files needs to split into separate documents.
Then have one master document to read theses sub documents
http://www.howtogeek.com/73960/create-a-master-document-in-word-2010-from-multiple-documents/

:)

Margaret

On 26 May 2013 09:53, Ellen kramer...@comcast.net wrote:
 We are nearing the end of preparation of a book series on the family.  It 
 will be over 2500 pages and cover 23 different immigrant lines. However, we 
 are noticing that photos only show up in the RTFs in the computer where we 
 are initiating the reports.  We cannot see photos in RTFs or DOCs that we 
 load and bring back from Dropbox or from documents loaded onto a thumbdrive.  
 It doesn't matter if we are doing this on the same or a different computer.  
 We have check marked the option to embed photos, but it isn't working.  We 
 have hundreds of photos, have made zillions of modifications in the reports 
 and cannot go back and rerun reports anymore.  What other options can we do 
 now?  What other options can we do in the future?

 We found that we cannot use Word 2010 to do the reports because the files are 
 way too large and Word stops responding and saving.  We have to use Word 2003 
 or 2007.  It would be nice for Legacy 8 to come out and upgrade to the newer 
 Word.  It doesn't matter if we are going between Word versions or using the 
 same one.

 Would someone either respond publicly or privately to me.  We are supposed to 
 send the 23 lines and introduction to the publisher by the end of this week.

 Also we noticed that despite the fact that we checked to only include User ID 
 numbers, the MRINS are showing up in the reports anyway.  We have spent TONS 
 of hours just removing the MRINs alone.  Any idea how to get them not to show 
 up in the reports?

 God bless,
 Ellen


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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos not embedded in the reports

[Ron Ferguson]

Ellen,

What exactly do you mean by User IDs, do you actually mean RINs? If the
latter then I think that the MRINs will be printed but, if you set User IDs
they should not. If you require further information please come back to us,
giving the names of the applicable reports.

Regarding your image problem, I use OpenOffice.org and have always had to
embed the images in their word processor - sorry.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


-Original Message-
From: Ellen
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 12:53 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Photos not embedded in the reports

We are nearing the end of preparation of a book series on the family.  It
will be over 2500 pages and cover 23 different immigrant lines. However, we
are noticing that photos only show up in the RTFs in the computer where we
are initiating the reports.  We cannot see photos in RTFs or DOCs that we
load and bring back from Dropbox or from documents loaded onto a thumbdrive.
It doesn't matter if we are doing this on the same or a different computer.
We have check marked the option to embed photos, but it isn't working.  We
have hundreds of photos, have made zillions of modifications in the reports
and cannot go back and rerun reports anymore.  What other options can we do
now?  What other options can we do in the future?

We found that we cannot use Word 2010 to do the reports because the files
are way too large and Word stops responding and saving.  We have to use Word
2003 or 2007.  It would be nice for Legacy 8 to come out and upgrade to the
newer Word.  It doesn't matter if we are going between Word versions or
using the same one.

Would someone either respond publicly or privately to me.  We are supposed
to send the 23 lines and introduction to the publisher by the end of this
week.

Also we noticed that despite the fact that we checked to only include User
ID numbers, the MRINS are showing up in the reports anyway.  We have spent
TONS of hours just removing the MRINs alone.  Any idea how to get them not
to show up in the reports?

God bless,
Ellen




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RE: [LegacyUG] Photos not embedded in the reports

[Brian L. Lightfoot]

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/211489

The maximum file size is limited to 32 MB for the total document text only and 
does not include graphics, regardless of how the graphics image is inserted 
(Link to file, Save with document, or Wrapping style) into the document. 
Therefore, if the file contains graphics, the maximum file size can be larger 
than 32 MB.


Brian in California



-Original Message-
From: Margaret Turner [mailto:mgroga...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 5:40 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photos not embedded in the reports

I think the maximum file size of a Word 2010 file is 32 Mb.
This is a Word limitation not a Legacy problem as Legacy is generating it as a 
generic RTF file.

Maybe the original RTF files needs to split into separate documents.
Then have one master document to read theses sub documents 
http://www.howtogeek.com/73960/create-a-master-document-in-word-2010-from-multiple-documents/

:)

Margaret

On 26 May 2013 09:53, Ellen kramer...@comcast.net wrote:
 We are nearing the end of preparation of a book series on the family.  It 
 will be over 2500 pages and cover 23 different immigrant lines. However, we 
 are noticing that photos only show up in the RTFs in the computer where we 
 are initiating the reports.  We cannot see photos in RTFs or DOCs that we 
 load and bring back from Dropbox or from documents loaded onto a thumbdrive.  
 It doesn't matter if we are doing this on the same or a different computer.  
 We have check marked the option to embed photos, but it isn't working.  We 
 have hundreds of photos, have made zillions of modifications in the reports 
 and cannot go back and rerun reports anymore.  What other options can we do 
 now?  What other options can we do in the future?

 We found that we cannot use Word 2010 to do the reports because the files are 
 way too large and Word stops responding and saving.  We have to use Word 2003 
 or 2007.  It would be nice for Legacy 8 to come out and upgrade to the newer 
 Word.  It doesn't matter if we are going between Word versions or using the 
 same one.

 Would someone either respond publicly or privately to me.  We are supposed to 
 send the 23 lines and introduction to the publisher by the end of this week.

 Also we noticed that despite the fact that we checked to only include User ID 
 numbers, the MRINS are showing up in the reports anyway.  We have spent TONS 
 of hours just removing the MRINs alone.  Any idea how to get them not to show 
 up in the reports?

 God bless,
 Ellen


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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos not embedded in the reports

[Ellen]

David, we do have separate documents.  Some are very small for the One-Guy 
lines.  However, some are hundreds of pages with hundreds of photos.  I'm not 
techie with this, but I know that the file size was 400,000+ and Word 2010 
would not respond unless we switched from an .rtf to a Word 97/2003 .doc.  That 
made the file size smaller.  We aren't sure how to put 25 different Legacy 
reports and our introduction together into a single document so that the 
pagination will work out.  I have been thinking of going the route of the 
Publisher in Legacy, but none of the webinars promote that.  There are 
multi-line reports, but that is within the same Legacy file.

We have each immigrant in a separate file because of genealogists for a century 
identifying each line by a letter.  It's been easier that way to be sure we are 
dealing with the proper lettered line to have them separated.  I don't know 
though if Legacy will let us do a book in the Publisher with saving from 
multiple family files.  So far my attempts have not worked with that.  I LOVE 
Legacy in every way except for this final stage of publication.

God bless,
Ellen

On May 26, 2013, at 10:53 AM, David Abernathy wrote:

 As far as the images go, if they are Linked to the location of where you 
 are saving them, then that same location will need to be available to 
 everyone that will be opening the rtf or doc files.

 The best thing to do is have a separate folder that you can copy and provide 
 to the other users.

 For an example, the Legacy file name is JonesFamily, I would have a subfolder 
 under the same folder that the JonesFamily file is located in, named 
 JoneFamilyImages.
 Now these reports can be made and using the same folder of images from the 
 same subfolder of images.

 This way the Legacy file, and/or the reports that have Links to this 
 subfolder can be copied to a CD, USB drive or other external devices and the 
 images would be available to all who opened the files from the external 
 device.

 This is one of the reasons I do not like that Legacy by default puts ALL of 
 the images in the subfolder under the Program folder.

 Thanks,
 David C Abernathy
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 -Original Message-
 From: Ellen [mailto:kramer...@comcast.net]
 Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 11:14 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photos not embedded in the reports

 Cheryl, the User IDs are working fine.  We just didn't want to have to delete 
 MRINs that we pre-selected not to print.  Our main issue is getting the 
 photos and scans to show up in computers other than the one that the .rtf or 
 .doc was produced on.  The publisher will need to be able to see and print 
 those photos.  We hate the thought of having to embed each one manually.

 God bless,
 Ellen

 On May 25, 2013, at 8:13 PM, singhals wrote:

 Ellen wrote:
 We are nearing the end of preparation of a book series on the family.  It 
 will be over 2500 pages and cover 23 different immigrant lines. However, we 
 are noticing that photos only show up in the RTFs in the computer where we 
 are initiating the reports.  We cannot see photos in RTFs or DOCs that we 
 load and bring back from Dropbox or from documents loaded onto a 
 thumbdrive.  It doesn't matter if we are doing this on the same or a 
 different computer.  We have check marked the option to embed photos, but 
 it isn't working.  We have hundreds of photos, have made zillions of 
 modifications in the reports and cannot go back and rerun reports anymore.  
 What other options can we do now?  What other options can we do in the 
 future?

 We found that we cannot use Word 2010 to do the reports because the files 
 are way too large and Word stops responding and saving.  We have to use 
 Word 2003 or 2007.  It would be nice for Legacy 8 to come out and upgrade 
 to the newer Word.  It doesn't matter if we are going between Word versions 
 or using the same one.

 Would someone either respond publicly or privately to me.  We are supposed 
 to send the 23 lines and introduction to the publisher by the end of this 
 week.

 Also we noticed that despite the fact that we checked to only include User 
 ID numbers, the MRINS are showing up in the reports anyway.  We have spent 
 TONS of hours just removing the MRINs alone.  Any idea how to get them not 
 to show up in the reports?

 IME: if you want User IDs you'll have dele the MRINs manually.  Better
 also look at the index entries, because, again IME, they'll have the
 RIN attached no matter what you've checked.  My personal logic would
 suggest that if the user wants User IDs, perhaps he'd like them in the
 index as well

Re: [LegacyUG] Photos not embedded in the reports

[singhals]

Ellen wrote:
 We are nearing the end of preparation of a book series on the family.  It 
 will be over 2500 pages and cover 23 different immigrant lines. However, we 
 are noticing that photos only show up in the RTFs in the computer where we 
 are initiating the reports.  We cannot see photos in RTFs or DOCs that we 
 load and bring back from Dropbox or from documents loaded onto a thumbdrive.  
 It doesn't matter if we are doing this on the same or a different computer.  
 We have check marked the option to embed photos, but it isn't working.  We 
 have hundreds of photos, have made zillions of modifications in the reports 
 and cannot go back and rerun reports anymore.  What other options can we do 
 now?  What other options can we do in the future?

 We found that we cannot use Word 2010 to do the reports because the files are 
 way too large and Word stops responding and saving.  We have to use Word 2003 
 or 2007.  It would be nice for Legacy 8 to come out and upgrade to the newer 
 Word.  It doesn't matter if we are going between Word versions or using the 
 same one.

 Would someone either respond publicly or privately to me.  We are supposed to 
 send the 23 lines and introduction to the publisher by the end of this week.

 Also we noticed that despite the fact that we checked to only include User ID 
 numbers, the MRINS are showing up in the reports anyway.  We have spent TONS 
 of hours just removing the MRINs alone.  Any idea how to get them not to show 
 up in the reports?

IME: if you want User IDs you'll have dele the MRINs
manually.  Better also look at the index entries, because,
again IME, they'll have the RIN attached no matter what
you've checked.  My personal logic would suggest that if the
user wants User IDs, perhaps he'd like them in the index as
well, but apparently programmers don't see it that way.

And, IME, Word2003 didn't distinguish itself by its
behaviour trying to edit a document about half the size of
yours.  If you can make it behave for your doc, please send
me off-list instructions, because I'm going to have to do it
again soon. :(

Cheryl



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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos - linking multiple ppl

[Ron Ferguson]

Teresa,

No you cannot block link, at least as far as I know, and yes it would print for 
each of the persons to which it is linked.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

From: wt...@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 7:52 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Photos - linking multiple ppl

Is it possible to link multiple people other than just husband/wife to a photo? 
 For example, said photo has 6 people, all 6 family members.  Is it possible to 
link them all together? Or would you have to manually go in and link it to each 
person individually (which is a pain and means it might print multiple times).

Teresa Rozich
Who's descendant photo chart is coming along quite nicely.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos - linking multiple ppl

[Paula Ryburn]

Yes, check the Picture Center and its associated Help.
 --Paula





From:wt...@aol.com wt...@aol.com
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Sent: Sun, April 29, 2012 1:53:32 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Photos - linking multiple ppl

Is it possible to link multiple people other than just husband/wife to a photo?
For example, said photo has 6 people, all 6 family members.  Is it possible to
link them all together? Or would you have to manually go in and link it to each
person individually (which is a pain and means it might print multiple times).

Teresa Rozich
Who's descendant photo chart is coming along quite nicely.   smiley
face from Paula 


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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos - linking multiple ppl

[Paula Ryburn]

I have heard here that some folks take a group photo like that and edit it to
create thumbnail shots of each individual.  You could then attach the
thumbnails to the appropriate people for printing next to their name.
 --Paula




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To:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sun, April 29, 2012 3:08:07 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photos - linking multiple ppl


Teresa,

No you cannot block link, at least as far as I know, and yes it would print for
each of the persons to which it is linked.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

From: wt...@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 7:52 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Photos - linking multiple ppl
  Is it possible to link multiple people other than just husband/wife to a
photo?  For example, said photo has 6 people, all 6 family members.  Is it
possible to link them all together? Or would you have to manually go in and link
it to each person individually (which is a pain and means it might print
multiple times).

Teresa Rozich
Who's descendant photo chart is coming along quite nicely.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Photos - linking multiple ppl

[Jan Roberts]

If I have a photo of several member of the same family I add it as a Marriage 
Event. I have created an event called Photograph  - [Desc] had a [-EventName] 
taken [atPlace] [OnDate].[Sources]  [Notes]  In the Notes I describe the 
occasion on which the photo was taken, and identify the people in it.  In 
[Desc] field I might put something like Fred and Jenny, or The family, or Bob 
etc.



Cheers

Jan

From: wt...@aol.com [mailto:wt...@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, 30 April 2012 04:52
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Photos - linking multiple ppl



Is it possible to link multiple people other than just husband/wife to a photo? 
 For example, said photo has 6 people, all 6 family members.  Is it possible to 
link them all together? Or would you have to manually go in and link it to each 
person individually (which is a pain and means it might print multiple times).



Teresa Rozich

Who's descendant photo chart is coming along quite nicely.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos - linking multiple ppl

[2marion wimps]

As Paula says - go t the Picture Centre. There you can enter all of
the details on the picture, attach it to a person, and subsequently
attach it to as many other people as you want. It takes a bit to get
the hang of it but I have done it numerous times and it saves a lot of
time, effort and energy.

Marion

On 30 April 2012 08:37, Jan Roberts poo...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
 If I have a photo of several member of the same family I add it as a
 Marriage Event. I have created an event called Photograph  - [Desc] had a
 [-EventName] taken [atPlace] [OnDate].[Sources]  [Notes]  In the Notes I
 describe the occasion on which the photo was taken, and identify the people
 in it.  In [Desc] field I might put something like Fred and Jenny, or The
 family, or Bob etc.



 Cheers

 Jan

 From: wt...@aol.com [mailto:wt...@aol.com]
 Sent: Monday, 30 April 2012 04:52
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Photos - linking multiple ppl



 Is it possible to link multiple people other than just husband/wife to a
 photo?  For example, said photo has 6 people, all 6 family members.  Is it
 possible to link them all together? Or would you have to manually go in and
 link it to each person individually (which is a pain and means it might
 print multiple times).



 Teresa Rozich





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RE: [LegacyUG] Photos - linking multiple ppl

[Jan Roberts]

Doesn't doing it this way via the picture centre mean that it would print 
multiple times?  Or does it just attach the photo to each person and not print 
anywhere?

Cheers
Jan
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From: 2marion wimps [mailto:2wi...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, 30 April 2012 10:54
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photos - linking multiple ppl

As Paula says - go t the Picture Centre. There you can enter all of the details 
on the picture, attach it to a person, and subsequently attach it to as many 
other people as you want. It takes a bit to get the hang of it but I have done 
it numerous times and it saves a lot of time, effort and energy.

Marion

On 30 April 2012 08:37, Jan Roberts poo...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
 If I have a photo of several member of the same family I add it as a
 Marriage Event. I have created an event called Photograph  - [Desc]
 had a [-EventName] taken [atPlace] [OnDate].[Sources]  [Notes]  In the
 Notes I describe the occasion on which the photo was taken, and
 identify the people in it.  In [Desc] field I might put something like
 Fred and Jenny, or The family, or Bob etc.



 Cheers

 Jan

 From: wt...@aol.com [mailto:wt...@aol.com]
 Sent: Monday, 30 April 2012 04:52
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Photos - linking multiple ppl



 Is it possible to link multiple people other than just husband/wife to
 a photo?  For example, said photo has 6 people, all 6 family members.
 Is it possible to link them all together? Or would you have to
 manually go in and link it to each person individually (which is a
 pain and means it might print multiple times).



 Teresa Rozich





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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos - linking multiple ppl

[2marion wimps]

It will print if you print from the person's Photo Album but when you
print reports the only photo that is printed is the selected
:Preferred Picture unless you have attached a picture to a Source.

Marion

On 30 April 2012 09:20, Jan Roberts poo...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
 Doesn't doing it this way via the picture centre mean that it would print 
 multiple times?  Or does it just attach the photo to each person and not 
 print anywhere?

 Cheers
 Jan
 -Original Message-
 From: 2marion wimps [mailto:2wi...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, 30 April 2012 10:54
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photos - linking multiple ppl

 As Paula says - go t the Picture Centre. There you can enter all of the 
 details on the picture, attach it to a person, and subsequently attach it to 
 as many other people as you want. It takes a bit to get the hang of it but I 
 have done it numerous times and it saves a lot of time, effort and energy.

 Marion

 On 30 April 2012 08:37, Jan Roberts poo...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
 If I have a photo of several member of the same family I add it as a
 Marriage Event. I have created an event called Photograph  - [Desc]
 had a [-EventName] taken [atPlace] [OnDate].[Sources]  [Notes]  In the
 Notes I describe the occasion on which the photo was taken, and
 identify the people in it.  In [Desc] field I might put something like
 Fred and Jenny, or The family, or Bob etc.






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RE: [LegacyUG] Photos - linking multiple ppl

[Jan Roberts]

Thank you.  I don't use the picture centre myself - because I find it easier 
just to attach a photo to an event as I go.

Cheers
Jan

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, 30 April 2012 11:30
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photos - linking multiple ppl

It will print if you print from the person's Photo Album but when you print 
reports the only photo that is printed is the selected :Preferred Picture 
unless you have attached a picture to a Source.

Marion

On 30 April 2012 09:20, Jan Roberts poo...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
 Doesn't doing it this way via the picture centre mean that it would print 
 multiple times?  Or does it just attach the photo to each person and not 
 print anywhere?






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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos

[Ron Ferguson]

Marli,

The possibility of printing pictures varies from report to report, as you have 
found. If the option is either greyed out, or not present then the picture will 
not print. This is true for all ie. Individual, Events etc.

Usually you can only print one picture for each option, and this is normally 
the one marked ‘preferred’.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


From: Marli Yoder
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 6:42 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Photos

I've played with where I enter my photos. Now I need to know where I can find 
help on where  what photo prints on what report. Is that somewhere in the 
archives, Didn't understand much of the help file.
I played with one Family Group Record. Found that I got photo's to print if I 
had attached them to Birth,Christen, Death, Burial area.  But the output in 
other reports was questionable. (Individual report, descendant chart  
narrative had no photos.) Include photos  all preferred boxes were checked.
I had originally attached DC  Headstone to separate events with information, 
but did not get both pictures to print in the Family Group Report. They did 
print in the other mentioned reports.
Is there a general place to attach pictures to get them to print in the most 
reports?
Maybe another Webinar?

Marli Yoder
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Eureka  Sturgeon Missouri


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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos

[Brian/Support]

The photos are available/can be included now on individual and FGS reports.

For the narrative style reports such as ancestor and descendants the
difficulty is that the birth, chr, death and burial details are all
written into one paragraph. The programmer has played around with
including the birth, chr, death and burial pictures in those reports but
has never been happy with the layouts he has tried.

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On 09/08/2011 1:45 AM, sue klein wrote:
 Hello,
 Over time I have added baptismal, marriage or burial records to the
 respective events
 ( i.e. after Christened there is the space for notes, address or
 photo -I did not create a Event).

 I have read in the past that these photos are not printed in reports.
 Does anyone know if there is a plan in the
 future somewhere to allow these to be printed when creating reports (
 or books such as Ancestors
 or Descendants)?

 With the number of people I have in my file, I can not imagine adding
 these manually ( many ancestors from
 Québec where these records are available).

 Thx
 Sue


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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 08:22:49 -0400, Brian/Support
br...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:

For the narrative style reports such as ancestor and descendants the
difficulty is that the birth, chr, death and burial details are all
written into one paragraph. The programmer has played around with
including the birth, chr, death and burial pictures in those reports but
has never been happy with the layouts he has tried.

Maybe the OP should create a sample using one person/family using RTF on
how they would do it. They could post a sample [not here] for others to
comment.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos as Sources-----Sources for Photos

[Paula Ryburn]

Gary,  I may be off your intended mark, too, but if you obtain a person's
marriage date based on the inscription on the back of a photograph in your Aunt
Sophie's album, would you not enter the marriage date, cite the photo as the
source, and indicate Sophie's album as the repository?  Probably does not cover
all cases, but I'm not meaning to address the tombstone aspect. 
Alternatively, if you add the photo on the marriage event, can't you cite
Sophie's album as source?  (Perhaps I should've tested this before posting...
just thinking out loud.)

Thanks for starting this excellent thread!
 --Paula in Texas
Researching: Adair Baker Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough
Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates
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- Original Message 
From: Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
family.na...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Fri, February 25, 2011 11:24:01 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photos as Sources-Sources for Photos

Thank you all for input.  Some kept more on the mark than others (my
intended mark anyway) but all very interesting perspectives all the
same.  I was indeed soliciting perspectives on directly linking a
source to a photograph in, say, the  Picture Center, thus assigning a
source citation to a photograph---to record from whom (or where) it
came (its origin---its source), and of its inscription, if any.  I
do not see this capability---workarounds possibly (and thank you for
the suggestoins), but not a direct sourcing capability.  In weighing
the pros/cons I remain convinced, at least for my purposes, an image
(and audio/video for that matter) should have the capability to be
directly sourced in the same fashion as other input (Notes for
instance).  I would like future generations to know the 'source' of
photographs/inscriptions attached to my genealogy in the same way they
will know the source of other information.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos as Sources-----Sources for Photos

[Mike Fry]

On 2011/02/25 06:22, Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
wrote:
 I have researched the archives and pondered this issue.  Should photos
 have sources-are photos themselves a source.  I believe the
 answer to both is yes,

Hmm! Isn't the source of a photograph just another term for a Repository?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos as Sources-----Sources for Photos

[Connie Sheets]

Current thinking, at least in the US, is that we need to distinguish between 
sources, information, and evidence.

Yes, a photograph can be a source if we derive information (e.g. the date of 
birth in your example of a tombstone photo) from the photograph.

I'm not convinced, however, that we need to assign formal source citations to 
each and every photograph we attach in Legacy.  The Caption and Description 
fields are adequate IMO.

Connie










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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos as Sources-----Sources for Photos

[atlantajm]

 Hmm! Isn't the source of a photograph just another term for a
Repository?

I was thinking the same thing. However, as to the OP's comment:

 As for photos themselves being a source. I believe the concenus is
 certainly. A photo of a tombstone for example serves as a source for
 dates and names.

Photos of tombstones that I take are not sources but merely my memorial
of the source. No different that the cemetery survey notes that I write
down while at the cemetery. It is the tombstone which is the source. On
the other hand, photographs of tombstones taken by others are the
source which I properly cite to the photographer using the Chicago
Manual's style.

-Original Message-
From: Mike Fry mike...@iafrica.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Fri, Feb 25, 2011 1:36 am
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photos as Sources-Sources for Photos


On 2011/02/25 06:22, Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson
Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
wrote:
 I have researched the archives and pondered this issue. Should photos
 have sources-are photos themselves a source. I believe the
 answer to both is yes,

Hmm! Isn't the source of a photograph just another term for a
Repository?

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg



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RE: [LegacyUG] Photos as Sources-----Sources for Photos

[William Boswell]

I've used photos as sources, but primarily they were leads to better sources.  
For example, I found a photograph of a child's casket in my great Uncle Joe's 
parlor with the dates on the back.  The infant only lived three days.  From the 
dates, I was able to find out through better sources his name and actual 
birth/death dates.

Photographs can be subjective depending on whoever wrote on them which is why I 
don't use them as concrete evidence to anything unless I have additional 
sources to go along with it.  I will use my own photographs though because I 
keep accurate records unlike my ancestors.

---
Bill Boswell


-Original Message-
From: Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara 
[mailto:family.na...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 11:22 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Photos as Sources-Sources for Photos

I have researched the archives and pondered this issue.  Should photos
have sources-are photos themselves a source.  I believe the
answer to both is yes,

It does not appear Legacy programmers think assigning a source to a
photo is approporateat least I've not found a means to assign a
source to a photo.  I have many of photos inscribed on the back with
names, places, dates---of course a practice we should all promote.  In
most instances I know where the photos originated, Aunt Irene's
collection, Uncle Joe's collection, etc.  In some instances the names
on identical photos differ as do dates.  It would be useful to source
this information so others too will know from where the photos came.
It bothers me I continued using Aunt Irene's inscriptions as fact only
to later learn she had the names reversed.   I suppose source-like
informaiton could appear in the photo description area---not nearly as
useful as an official source entry.   Opinions?  Why shouldn't photos
be sourced?

As for photos themselves being a source.  I believe the concenus is
certainly. A photo of a tombstone for example serves as a source for
dates and names.
Gary



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RE: [LegacyUG] Photos as Sources-----Sources for Photos

[William Boswell]

Occasionally I have found that tombstone dates are wrong, or conflict with 
other sources like obituaries which could also be wrong.  I use tombstone 
photos as sources, but if there's a discrepancy in dates I'll put a note to 
reflect that.

I've found that in rare cases a person was reinterred into another cemetery and 
the date of the burial was on the tombstone rather than the original death date 
which was ten years earlier.  A cemetery I used to work for had used the burial 
date for the death date for everyone before the year of 1898.  It just shows 
that there are flaws in many types of sources since everything is prone to 
human error.

---
Bill Boswell


-Original Message-
From: atlant...@aol.com [mailto:atlant...@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 8:50 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photos as Sources-Sources for Photos



 Hmm! Isn't the source of a photograph just another term for a
Repository?

I was thinking the same thing. However, as to the OP's comment:

 As for photos themselves being a source. I believe the concenus is
 certainly. A photo of a tombstone for example serves as a source for
 dates and names.

Photos of tombstones that I take are not sources but merely my memorial
of the source. No different that the cemetery survey notes that I write
down while at the cemetery. It is the tombstone which is the source. On
the other hand, photographs of tombstones taken by others are the
source which I properly cite to the photographer using the Chicago
Manual's style.





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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos as Sources-----Sources for Photos

[Larry McCumber]

What is the difference between a photo you took and a photo someone else took?

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 8:50 AM,  atlant...@aol.com wrote:

 Photos of tombstones that I take are not sources but merely my memorial
 of the source. No different that the cemetery survey notes that I write
 down while at the cemetery. It is the tombstone which is the source. On
 the other hand, photographs of tombstones taken by others are the
 source which I properly cite to the photographer using the Chicago
 Manual's style.




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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos as Sources-----Sources for Photos

[atlantajm]

If I took the photo then I have seen the tombstone so my information is
coming from the tombstone itself. I take a photograph to record for
myself what I saw. If you take a photograph than I am actually getting
the data from you through a photographic media. I would cite to you as
the source. Likewise, if you wrote down your observations and posted it
on the internet I would still cite to you.

-Original Message-
From: Larry McCumber lemccum...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:33 am
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photos as Sources-Sources for Photos


What is the difference between a photo you took and a photo someone
else took?

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 8:50 AM, atlant...@aol.com wrote:

 Photos of tombstones that I take are not sources but merely my
memorial
 of the source. No different that the cemetery survey notes that I
write
 down while at the cemetery. It is the tombstone which is the source.
On
 the other hand, photographs of tombstones taken by others are the
 source which I properly cite to the photographer using the Chicago
 Manual's style.




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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos as Sources-----Sources for Photos

[Perk Bingham]

My two cents worth probably isn't worth that amount these days but
isn't this all just a matter of semantics?

Although they have certainly been known to have errors, isn't tombstone
the source?   The photo, to me, is only a means of recording that
source, so that I have a record of what's actually shown there.

Perk (:)

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On 2/25/2011 9:11 AM, atlant...@aol.com wrote:
 If I took the photo then I have seen the tombstone so my information is
 coming from the tombstone itself. I take a photograph to record for
 myself what I saw. If you take a photograph than I am actually getting
 the data from you through a photographic media. I would cite to you as
 the source. Likewise, if you wrote down your observations and posted it
 on the internet I would still cite to you.

 -Original Message-
 From: Larry McCumberlemccum...@gmail.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:33 am
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photos as Sources-Sources for Photos


 What is the difference between a photo you took and a photo someone
 else took?

 On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 8:50 AM,atlant...@aol.com  wrote:

 Photos of tombstones that I take are not sources but merely my
 memorial
 of the source. No different that the cemetery survey notes that I
 write
 down while at the cemetery. It is the tombstone which is the source.
 On
 the other hand, photographs of tombstones taken by others are the
 source which I properly cite to the photographer using the Chicago
 Manual's style.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos as Sources-----Sources for Photos

[Genealogy mail]

I agree that the tombstone is the source and the cemetery is the repository, 
and the photo is a recorded image of the source. If the photo is from someone 
else then you just cite the photo with the creator/owner of the photo and date 
if known.
Russ

From: Perk Bingham
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 12:59 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photos as Sources-Sources for Photos

My two cents worth probably isn't worth that amount these days but isn't this 
all just a matter of semantics?

Although they have certainly been known to have errors, isn't tombstone the 
source?   The photo, to me, is only a means of recording that source, so that 
I have a record of what's actually shown there.

Perk (:)

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On 2/25/2011 9:11 AM, atlant...@aol.com wrote:
If I took the photo then I have seen the tombstone so my information is
coming from the tombstone itself. I take a photograph to record for
myself what I saw. If you take a photograph than I am actually getting
the data from you through a photographic media. I would cite to you as
the source. Likewise, if you wrote down your observations and posted it
on the internet I would still cite to you.

-Original Message-
From: Larry McCumber mailto:lemccum...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:33 am
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photos as Sources-Sources for Photos


What is the difference between a photo you took and a photo someone
else took?

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 8:50 AM, mailto:atlant...@aol.com wrote:

Photos of tombstones that I take are not sources but merely my
memorial
of the source. No different that the cemetery survey notes that I
write
down while at the cemetery. It is the tombstone which is the source.
On
the other hand, photographs of tombstones taken by others are the
source which I properly cite to the photographer using the Chicago
Manual's style.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos as Sources-----Sources for Photos

[Connie Sheets]

No, it is not necessarily a matter of semantics.  It is a matter of writing a 
source citation that is specific enough that you (and hopefully others) know 
where you got the information AND can evaluate the quality of the evidence.

Technically, the tombstone itself is an original source; a photograph of the 
tombstone is a derivative source, but if the inscription is completely readable 
in the photograph (they often are not), the photograph can be considered 
equivalent to the original for the purpose of evidence evaluation.

I would cite a tombstone as the source only if I've been to the cemetery and 
seen the tombstone myself.  For example:

Anna A. Walton tombstone, Cedar Hill Cemetery, Harrison County, Missouri, 
viewed by Connie Sheets on 19 June 2004.

Otherwise, I most frequently cite someone else's transcription of the tombstone 
(e.g. a cemetery book or an entry at Find-A-Grave).  Particularly for sites 
like Find-A-Grave, I note in my citation whether a readable photograph of the 
tombstone is included. For example:

Find A Grave Memorial, database and image, Findagrave.com (www.findagrave.com 
: accessed 2 Apr 2010), for Frances Flowers (sic) Allen, Memorial 19217825; a 
photograph of what appears to be the top of a broken tombstone is provided.  
Only Frances F. wife of James Allen is visible; the source for the dates of 
birth and death is not recorded.

If someone sends me a photograph of a tombstone that I've never seen, my 
citation would look something like this:

Photograph of Anna A. Walton tombstone, Cedar Hill Cemetery, Harrison Co., 
Missouri, taken by John Doe 12 Dec 2009 and e-mailed to Connie Sheets on 1 Feb 
2011.

In all cases, my citation is attached to the event/fact or piece of information 
I can derive from the tombstone, e.g. location of burial, date of birth, or 
date of death.

Connie


--- On Fri, 2/25/11, Perk Bingham p...@wavecable.com wrote:

   
  My two cents worth probably isn't worth that amount these days but isn't 
this all just a matter of semantics?
   

    Although they have certainly been known to have errors, isn't
    tombstone the source? The photo, to me, is only a means of
    recording that source, so that I have a record of what's actually
    shown there.

    Perk (:)

   








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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos as Sources-----Sources for Photos

[John Carter]

If you have an old photo with the inscription Sue Smith in her wedding
gown, June 8, 1899, that photo plus its inscription might be your source
for wedding information if you can't find other records (courthouse,
family Bible, etc).  I would probably list the source as Inscription on
picture and the picture's name on disk.

If there are multiple photos from a photographer in Podunk, IL, then the
people in those photographs probably lived within a reasonable distance of
Podunk.  Lacking other proof of location, I might list the photos as
source for the location data.  The number of photgraphs from a
photographer's studio also might indicate the familiy's income level.

Since pictures of tombstones have been mentioned, be aware that tombstone
data is highly suspect.  If the stone appears to have been placed at the
person's time of death, the date of death on the stone is likely close to
the actual date (whoever buried him/her knew when he/she died) but the
date of birth still needs verification (children, grandchildren,
nieces/nephews may not know their elders' dates of birth).  If the stone
was placed long after the person's death, both dates are suspect.  If some
descendant becomes wealthy and wants to replace the simple rock markers in
the local cemetery, there may be no one alive who actually knew the
deceased (happened in my wife's family).  Tombstones are called markers
for good reason - they mark the place where we *think* someone is buried.

John


 I have researched the archives and pondered this issue.  Should photos
 have sources-are photos themselves a source.  I believe the
 answer to both is yes,

 It does not appear Legacy programmers think assigning a source to a
 photo is approporateat least I've not found a means to assign a
 source to a photo.





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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos as Sources-----Sources for Photos

[Genealogy mail]

Gary,
To answer your question, they did in fact program a means to source
Photographs, portraits  sketches using SourceWriter if you have the
Deluxe version. Add a new source and choose Photographs, portraits 
sketches from the list of source types and follow the prompts.
Russ

-Original Message-
From: Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 11:22 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Photos as Sources-Sources for Photos

...
It does not appear Legacy programmers think assigning a source to a
photo is approporateat least I've not found a means to assign a
source to a photo. ... Gary






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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos as Sources-----Sources for Photos

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 15:02:26 -0500, Genealogy mail
rgstrong-ge...@hughes.net wrote:

To answer your question, they did in fact program a means to source
Photographs, portraits  sketches using SourceWriter if you have the
Deluxe version. Add a new source and choose Photographs, portraits 
sketches from the list of source types and follow the prompts.

Thank you for posting in plain text.

What you've described is a method to make the photograph the source, so
it can be applied to some fact in your database. This has always been
possible, even with basic sources.

I think what Gary was looking for was a way to cite the source of the
actual photo. For example, I may find a photo of a ship in a book and
make a digital copy of it. I would like Legacy to remember that I
obtained this photo in book ABC at library XYZ on page nnn. There are
several ways to do this in Legacy, but not the usual method (create a
source for book ABC at repository XYZ, and then create a citation
linking the digital image on my PC to the source).

I have always wondered why Legacy doesn't have this feature ... other
than the ugly programming it might involve.

I'll have to take a look at the old GENTECH Genealogical Data Model to
see how they handled this.

--

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RE: [LegacyUG] Photos as Sources-----Sources for Photos

[William Boswell]

What happens when the tombstone is no longer there and you have a photograph 
taken prior to its disappearance (theft, vandalism, sunk in ground)?  I have 
been putting the cemetery as the source and the photograph is just to back up 
any transcriptions if they are readable.  I put myself as the transcriber and 
photographer.  The stone was available at the time I did the transcription and 
took the photo, but for future generations if the tombstone is gone there is no 
way for them to verify the information from it unless there are other photos of 
it floating around like my own additions to Find A Grave.

Would future generations take my word for it that the photograph is indeed from 
that cemetery?  While still maintaining that the photograph was taken at a 
specific cemetery, but the tombstone is no longer available, would the source 
become the photograph and the cemetery remain the repository.  Unless the 
cemetery or another person also a photograph of that grave, my photo could be 
the only one in existence if the stone is gone.

I've had this happen with a lot of disappearing tombstones after taking photos. 
 One very large stone placed on the ground in the late 1800's has information 
on it that indicates an ancestor of mine was from Tralee, County Kerry, 
Ireland.  The information was provided by the children because they are 
mentioned on the inscription.  This is the only real source I have of this.  
Now that it has disappeared, would I change my source from being the actual 
stone to the photograph since future generations can no longer access it, or 
just make note that the stone is gone which is what I now.  Other ones have 
just sunk into the ground, and some were stolen since probing proved no stone 
was below while cemetery records revealed a memorial had been there once.

When no stones were ever available, I just use cemetery records.  For missing 
stones I will take a photo where the grave should be especially for one 
cemetery where I have all their records and plot information.

---
Bill Boswell

-Original Message-
From: Connie Sheets [mailto:clshee...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 1:59 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photos as Sources-Sources for Photos

No, it is not necessarily a matter of semantics.� It is a matter of writing a 
source citation that is specific enough that you (and hopefully others) know 
where you got the information AND can evaluate the quality of the evidence.

Technically, the tombstone itself is an original source; a photograph of the 
tombstone is a derivative source, but if the inscription is completely readable 
in the photograph (they often are not), the photograph can be considered 
equivalent to the original for the purpose of evidence evaluation.

I would cite a tombstone as the source only if I've been to the cemetery and 
seen the tombstone myself.� For example:

Anna A. Walton tombstone, Cedar Hill Cemetery, Harrison County, Missouri, 
viewed by Connie Sheets on 19 June 2004.

Otherwise, I most frequently cite someone else's transcription of the tombstone 
(e.g. a cemetery book or an entry at Find-A-Grave).  Particularly for sites 
like Find-A-Grave, I note in my citation whether a readable photograph of the 
tombstone is included. For example:

Find A Grave Memorial, database and image, Findagrave.com�(www.findagrave.com 
: accessed 2 Apr 2010), for Frances Flowers (sic) Allen, Memorial 19217825; a 
photograph of what appears to be the top of a broken tombstone is provided.� 
Only Frances F. wife of James Allen is visible; the source for the dates of 
birth and death is not recorded.

If someone sends me a photograph of a tombstone that I've never seen, my 
citation would look something like this:

Photograph of Anna A. Walton tombstone, Cedar Hill Cemetery, Harrison Co., 
Missouri, taken by John Doe 12 Dec 2009 and e-mailed to Connie Sheets on 1 Feb 
2011.

In all cases, my citation is attached to the event/fact or piece of information 
I can derive from the tombstone, e.g. location of burial, date of birth, or 
date of death.

Connie





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RE: [LegacyUG] Photos as Sources-----Sources for Photos

[Kirsten Bowman]

Gary:

I see many responses to part of your post but haven't noticed any regarding 
sourcing your photos.  If you want to develop a source citation for a 
photograph, couldn't you use the Artifacts template in Legacy?

Kirsten

-Original Message-
From: Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
[mailto:family.na...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 8:22 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Photos as Sources-Sources for Photos


I have researched the archives and pondered this issue.  Should photos
have sources-are photos themselves a source.  I believe the
answer to both is yes,

It does not appear Legacy programmers think assigning a source to a
photo is approporateat least I've not found a means to assign a
source to a photo.  I have many of photos inscribed on the back with
names, places, dates---of course a practice we should all promote.  In
most instances I know where the photos originated, Aunt Irene's
collection, Uncle Joe's collection, etc.  In some instances the names
on identical photos differ as do dates.  It would be useful to source
this information so others too will know from where the photos came.
It bothers me I continued using Aunt Irene's inscriptions as fact only
to later learn she had the names reversed.   I suppose source-like
informaiton could appear in the photo description area---not nearly as
useful as an official source entry.   Opinions?  Why shouldn't photos
be sourced?

As for photos themselves being a source.  I believe the concenus is
certainly. A photo of a tombstone for example serves as a source for
dates and names.
Gary



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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos as Sources-----Sources for Photos

[atlantajm]

-Original Message-
From: William Boswell whbosw...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Fri, Feb 25, 2011 12:41 pm
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Photos as Sources-Sources for Photos


What happens when the tombstone is no longer there and you have a
photograph
taken prior to its disappearance (theft, vandalism, sunk in ground)?

Your source always is where you got your data. If I get my data from
you - whether by photograph, manuscript or even personal interview -
then you are my source. I would include in a parenthetical where you
got the information.

As a matter of general practice, I include a citation in the metadata
of my photographs with myself as the photographer.

would I change my source from being the actual stone to the
photograph since future generations can no longer access it, or just
make note
that the stone is gone which is what I now

I would do the latter because your source is the stone. Future
generations need to cite to your photograph. But include as much
information as possible in the citation. Disk space is cheap.

-Jack




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RE: [LegacyUG] Photos as Sources-----Sources for Photos

[Connie Sheets]

Kirsten,

Perhaps I misinterpreted Gary's post, but I thought he was making the point 
that there is no way to attach a source directly to a (linked) photograph in 
Legacy.

If he wishes to create a Photo Event, then yes, the Artifacts template would 
work.  (Although if it were a tombstone photo, that is probably not the 
template I would use).

One could also use a template to develop the citation, then copy and paste it 
into the Caption and/or Description fields.

But he can't attach the citation (as a Master Source with Details) directly to 
the photograph itself.  Unless something has changed in the newest build of 
Legacy...

Connie

--- On Fri, 2/25/11, Kirsten Bowman vik...@rvi.net wrote:

 From: Kirsten Bowman vik...@rvi.net
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Photos as Sources-Sources for Photos
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Date: Friday, February 25, 2011, 9:43 PM
 Gary:

 I see many responses to part of your post but haven't
 noticed any regarding sourcing your photos.  If you
 want to develop a source citation for a photograph, couldn't
 you use the Artifacts template in Legacy?

 Kirsten









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RE: [LegacyUG] Photos as Sources-----Sources for Photos

[Kirsten Bowman]

Connie:

Gary seems to be dealing with a variety of circumstances but since he does have 
some photos with family data written on the backs, one way to handle the 
sourcing would be through the Artifacts template.  As you say, that wouldn't 
work if he's looking to add a source citation to a linked photo but it would be 
a solution if he's using information noted on a photo as evidence for some fact 
or event.

Kirsten

-Original Message-
From: Connie Sheets [mailto:clshee...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 3:28 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Photos as Sources-Sources for Photos


Kirsten,

Perhaps I misinterpreted Gary's post, but I thought he was making the point 
that there is no way to attach a source directly to a (linked) photograph in 
Legacy.

If he wishes to create a Photo Event, then yes, the Artifacts template would 
work.  (Although if it were a tombstone photo, that is probably not the 
template I would use).

One could also use a template to develop the citation, then copy and paste it 
into the Caption and/or Description fields.

But he can't attach the citation (as a Master Source with Details) directly to 
the photograph itself.  Unless something has changed in the newest build of 
Legacy...

Connie

--- On Fri, 2/25/11, Kirsten Bowman vik...@rvi.net wrote:

 From: Kirsten Bowman vik...@rvi.net
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Photos as Sources-Sources for Photos
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Date: Friday, February 25, 2011, 9:43 PM
 Gary:

 I see many responses to part of your post but haven't
 noticed any regarding sourcing your photos.  If you
 want to develop a source citation for a photograph, couldn't
 you use the Artifacts template in Legacy?

 Kirsten







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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos as Sources-----Sources for Photos

[Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara]

Thank you all for input.  Some kept more on the mark than others (my
intended mark anyway) but all very interesting perspectives all the
same.  I was indeed soliciting perspectives on directly linking a
source to a photograph in, say, the  Picture Center, thus assigning a
source citation to a photograph---to record from whom (or where) it
came (its origin---its source), and of its inscription, if any.  I
do not see this capability---workarounds possibly (and thank you for
the suggestoins), but not a direct sourcing capability.  In weighing
the pros/cons I remain convinced, at least for my purposes, an image
(and audio/video for that matter) should have the capability to be
directly sourced in the same fashion as other input (Notes for
instance).  I would like future generations to know the 'source' of
photographs/inscriptions attached to my genealogy in the same way they
will know the source of other information.

Just to touch on a couple points mentioned.  It was said a photo is
not a source, merely a representation of the source. That is a slope
with no end. The same could be said of a birth certificate.  It's a
representation, a record of a birth.  The true 'source' of a birth is,
well if taken to its ultimate end, certainly not a piece of paper.  I
think we'll all agree it's acceptable to stop at the birth certificate
as being 'a source'.  If all I have is a photograph of a headstone
(such as in---all I have is a birth certificate as evidence of a
birth), then the photograph is the 'source' of my information (and in
my case I would like also to 'source' where that photograph came
from).  With regard to accuracy, indeed some sources are more reliable
than others (thus the Surety Level option).  Except for seeing an
event with my own eyes I would trust no record completely on its own
merit (and sometimes even seeing can't always be believed).  For my
purposes these points were not directly relevant to my subjectbut
again, interesting perspectives.
Gary




On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com wrote:
 On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 15:02:26 -0500, Genealogy mail
 rgstrong-ge...@hughes.net wrote:

To answer your question, they did in fact program a means to source
Photographs, portraits  sketches using SourceWriter if you have the
Deluxe version. Add a new source and choose Photographs, portraits 
sketches from the list of source types and follow the prompts.

 Thank you for posting in plain text.

 What you've described is a method to make the photograph the source, so
 it can be applied to some fact in your database. This has always been
 possible, even with basic sources.

 I think what Gary was looking for was a way to cite the source of the
 actual photo. For example, I may find a photo of a ship in a book and
 make a digital copy of it. I would like Legacy to remember that I
 obtained this photo in book ABC at library XYZ on page nnn. There are
 several ways to do this in Legacy, but not the usual method (create a
 source for book ABC at repository XYZ, and then create a citation
 linking the digital image on my PC to the source).

 I have always wondered why Legacy doesn't have this feature ... other
 than the ugly programming it might involve.

 I'll have to take a look at the old GENTECH Genealogical Data Model to
 see how they handled this.

 --

 Dennis Kowallek (LTools)
 http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools

 P.S. Post in plain text if you want me to read it...



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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos added to source detail

[Rick Bowden]

Jennifer,
  You need the Picture Gallery Clipboard. It doesn't work
from the Picture Centre but is fine from any Picture Gallery.
Just right click on the thumbnail in your source gallery and you get a
dropdown with options to Copy , for just the selected item or Copy All
for all of the items in the gallery. Once selected go to the target
gallery and right click in a blank frame to get another option
dropdown with a Paste option , which also tells you how many items are
on the clipboard. All your Subject , date and description data is
included with the image.

Rick



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RE: [LegacyUG] Photos added to source detail

[Jennifer Crockett]

Amazing, Rick. Thank you very much. I have been using Legacy for years and 
didn't know about this feature.

Regards,

Jennifer
http://colston-wenck.com


-Original Message-
From: Rick Bowden [mailto:rixxem...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, 10 July 2010 7:39 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photos added to source detail

Jennifer,
  You need the Picture Gallery Clipboard. It doesn't work
from the Picture Centre but is fine from any Picture Gallery.
Just right click on the thumbnail in your source gallery and you get a
dropdown with options to Copy , for just the selected item or Copy All
for all of the items in the gallery. Once selected go to the target
gallery and right click in a blank frame to get another option
dropdown with a Paste option , which also tells you how many items are
on the clipboard. All your Subject , date and description data is
included with the image.

Rick





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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos added to source detail

[Jenny M Benson]

Rick Bowden wrote
You need the Picture Gallery Clipboard. It doesn't work from the
Picture Centre but is fine from any Picture Gallery. Just right click
on the thumbnail in your source gallery and you get a dropdown with
options to Copy , for just the selected item or Copy All for all of the
items in the gallery.

This same right-click menu includes Copy/Append and Copy/Append All.

Am I right in thinking that this is for use with split-screen view, to
copy a picture from the gallery on one side to the gallery on the other?
--
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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos added to source detail

[Rick Bowden]

Jenny,
   I don't think so. I think it is intended for use where you
want to add pictures from more than one source gallery or if you are
selecting more than one, but no all from a single gallery. You would
use Copy/Append to indicate that you were just adding to the pictures
already loaded onto the clipboard.

Rick



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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos added to source detail

[Jenny M Benson]

Rick Bowden wrote
   I don't think so. I think it is intended for use where you
want to add pictures from more than one source gallery or if you are
selecting more than one, but no all from a single gallery. You would
use Copy/Append to indicate that you were just adding to the pictures
already loaded onto the clipboard.

Ah yes, that makes sense.  Thank you.

I couldn't seem to find anything in Help on this topic, but there was
something on a slightly different topic where Append meant add to the
record in the other window.
--
Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos added to source detail

[JLB]

Boy, are you a workaholic! The only workaround I can think of is just
don't do what you're doing. If you add information to the pictures using
IPTC the info is there and you don't have to type it twice. Now, Legacy
is not too IPTC-friendly at the moment. It will automatically import the
IPTC caption into their Description field so that's something. When you
go to link a picture Legacy will ask you if you want to import the
attached info. I don't think there's a way to link Source Detail pics
through the Picture Center.
.
JL
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog

On 7/9/2010 9:09 PM, Jennifer Crockett wrote:
 I am currently saving headstone photos sent to me and attaching them to the
 individual's burial event using Picture Centre. Often I also use a
 transcription of the headstone as a source for the death date and like to
 attach the picture to the source detail. It would be really nice if I could
 attach the picture to the source detail from the Picture Centre to save
 re-typing the caption and description.

 Does anyone know of a work around that would save me time?

 Regards,

 Jennifer
 http://colston-wenck.com





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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos

[Ila East]

I do not keep my pictures in the Legacy folder, nor do I keep my data
there. I have pictures under My Pictures and date in my documents under
Genealogy. that way when I purchase a new computer and need to transfer
my data, all I have to do is copy the documents and pictures folders.
Saves a lot of time because I don't have to look in individual program's
folders to find what I need to transfer.

Ila

On 4/5/2010 10:23 PM, leo macdonald wrote:
 I would suggest that you go to your Iphotos directory, select the photo that 
 you want to attach to your Legacy program and copy the photo to your C 
 DriveLegacypictures folder. If you have more than 1 photo, copy all the 
 photo's that you are planning to attach in Legacy.







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RE: [LegacyUG] Photos

[leo macdonald]

You can keep your photos in any folder, sub-folder on your computer's C drive 
or any other internal hard drive as long as Legacy knows the pathway to locate 
them.

You can also save them on a disk, external hard drive or USB, the only drawback 
with this method might be that the device would have to be plugged into the 
computed for Legacy to locate the pictures.

I like to keep my Legacy attached photo's in a separate folder from my personal 
photos that are not attached to Legacy.

I used to have my pictures in different folders but decided that since Legacy 
already has a folder called Photos, (and I had nothing in it),that I would copy 
all my Legacy Photos there. I'm not saying that everyone should use this folder.

Leo



 From: rle...@centurytel.net
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photos
 Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 08:39:40 -0500

 I do not keep my pictures in the Legacy folder, nor do I keep my data
 there. I have pictures under My Pictures and date in my documents under
 Genealogy. that way when I purchase a new computer and need to transfer
 my data, all I have to do is copy the documents and pictures folders.
 Saves a lot of time because I don't have to look in individual program's
 folders to find what I need to transfer.

 Ila


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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos

[Herman L. Sanders]

Thanks Rita I tend to think you are correct but will hope someone elso can show a better way.  On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:50:33 -0700, Rita Lynn McKale cagr...@comporium.net wrote:



Hi
Herman,

I am
a new Mac user (coming from a PC) so I am still learning.  I am using my Legacy
on Bootcamp which is running Windows XP.  For me, I have installed the photos
in the my pictures file in Windows, so I'm thinking you would have to install
your photos in Vmfusion.  I really don't know anything about Vmfusion.



Wish
I knew more to tell you.

Rita
in South Carolina







From: Herman L. Sanders
[mailto:hsanders1...@att.net] 
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 5:50 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Photos









I
am using a Mac X 10.6.3 with Snow Leopard. Vmfusion 3 with Legacy 7.4.
I have not been able to locate the Iphotos directory so that I can put a
photo in Legacy. What are the steps to do this? Or do you have
to install photos in vmware first? This would mean they would be
installed twice: once in Iphoto and once in Vmware. 











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RE: [LegacyUG] Photos

[leo macdonald]

Hi Herman,

I'm assuming that that you have Legacy installed on the C Drive on your 
computer.

I would suggest that you go to your Iphotos directory, select the photo that 
you want to attach to your Legacy program and copy the photo to your C 
DriveLegacypictures folder. If you have more than 1 photo, copy all the 
photo's that you are planning to attach in Legacy.

Open your Legacy program, go the the person or event that you want to attach a 
photo to, click on the photo icon to open the picture gallery, click the 
picture icon, at the bottom of the next screen click the little down arrow 
button and select the C Drive, in the window above this select LegacyPictures, 
then select the photo that you want to attach, highlight it and click the OK 
button. The photo will now be attached.

If your are just starting to attach photo, I would suggust that you read up on 
the different photo types and sizes that will work best in legacy and also the 
best form of naming your photo's in case you intend on posting your work to the 
web.

I hope that this helps.

Leo



 I
 am using a Mac X 10.6.3 with Snow Leopard. Vmfusion 3 with Legacy 7.4.
 I have not been able to locate the Iphotos directory so that I can put a
 photo in Legacy. What are the steps to do this? Or do you have
 to install photos in vmware first? This would mean they would be
 installed twice: once in Iphoto and once in Vmware.


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