Re: .il domain names with IPv6 support
I think like Uri, I don't see any reason to use registrar name server, use any DNS service you like. You just need the DNS URL to register with the registrar. I use DigitalOcean, I have few virtual machines there and use their free DNS service. -- Ori Idan CEO Helicon Books http://www.heliconbooks.com On Wed, Aug 2, 2023 at 8:53 AM אורי wrote: > Hi Gabor, > > I also use https://www.box.co.il/ and you can put any name servers you > want, I usually don't use the same company as a registrar and for name > servers - I use different companies. I would recommend either AWS route 53 > (not expensive) or also DigitalOcean - if you have an account then name > servers are free, I think you don't have to have droplets with them > (although I do) and also you can try Linode or Vultr (I never tried these > two companies' name servers). Or use the name servers of your hosting > provider. > > Thanks, > Uri. > אורי > u...@speedy.net > > > On Wed, Aug 2, 2023 at 8:34 AM Gabor Szabo wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I have been using BOX ( https://box.co.il/ ) for my .il domains and for >> DNS. Apparently their DNS server still does not support IPv6. So far it >> did not bother me too much, but now that I am trying to move a domain to >> use GitHub pages it seems that they require that configuration as well. >> >> So my question what do you suggest as a domain registrar for .il domains >> that has a reasonable DNS interface that also supports IPv6. Alternatively, >> what DNS provider do you use? >> >> (for my com/org names I use https://iwantmyname.com/ and I am quite >> satisfied) >> >> regards >> Gabor >> >> -- >> Gabor Szabohttps://szabgab.com/ <http://szabgab.com/> >> >> ___ >> Linux-il mailing list >> Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il >> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il >> > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Weird 'free' output
Sorry, I am not a convicted criminal. If you believe what is written in Yediot, that is your problem. -- Ori Idan CEO Helicon Books http://www.heliconbooks.com On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 9:21 PM Diego Iastrubni wrote: > Ori, > > You are not welcome here. Please unsubscribe. > > Admins - please remove this convicted criminal from this list. This man is > a stain on our community. > > > > On Tue, May 4, 2021, 7:53 PM Ori Idan wrote: > >> Note that Linux tries to use available memory for cache, that is why free >> memory seems small. >> >> -- >> Ori Idan CEO Helicon Books >> http://www.heliconbooks.com >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 2:48 PM linux.il wrote: >> >>> Omer, thank you! >>> Is it related to the "Inactive" count from /proc/meminfo? >>> I used to think that available=free+cache+buffers... >>> >>> On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 1:19 PM Omer Zak wrote: >>> >>>> From man free: >>>> >>>> available >>>> Estimation of how much memory is available for starting >>>> new applications, without swapping. Unlike the data provided by >>>> the cache or free fields, this field takes into account >>>> page cache and also that not all reclaimable memory slabs will >>>> be reclaimed due to items being in use (MemAvailable in >>>> /proc/meminfo, available on kernels 3.14, emulated on kernels >>>> 2.6.27+, otherwise the same as free) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, 2021-05-04 at 13:07 +0300, linux.il wrote: >>>> > "Available" output seems weird, or I'm missing something? >>>> > Any ideas? >>>> > >>>> > TIA, Vitaly >>>> > >>>> > free -m >>>> > totalusedfree shared buff/cache >>>> > available >>>> > Mem: 31654 29883 937 1 832 >>>> > 27675 >>>> > Swap: 0 0 0 >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> "Prior to capitalism, the way people amassed great wealth was by >>>> looting, plundering and enslaving their fellow man. Capitalism made it >>>> possible to become wealthy by serving your fellow man." - Walter E. >>>> Williams >>>> My own blog is at https://tddpirate.zak.co.il/ >>>> >>>> My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. >>>> They do not represent the official policy of any organization with >>>> which I may be affiliated in any way. >>>> WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at https://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Linux-il mailing list >>>> Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il >>>> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il >>>> >>> ___ >>> Linux-il mailing list >>> Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il >>> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il >>> >> ___ >> Linux-il mailing list >> Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il >> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il >> > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Weird 'free' output
Note that Linux tries to use available memory for cache, that is why free memory seems small. -- Ori Idan CEO Helicon Books http://www.heliconbooks.com On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 2:48 PM linux.il wrote: > Omer, thank you! > Is it related to the "Inactive" count from /proc/meminfo? > I used to think that available=free+cache+buffers... > > On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 1:19 PM Omer Zak wrote: > >> From man free: >> >> available >> Estimation of how much memory is available for starting >> new applications, without swapping. Unlike the data provided by >> the cache or free fields, this field takes into account >> page cache and also that not all reclaimable memory slabs will >> be reclaimed due to items being in use (MemAvailable in >> /proc/meminfo, available on kernels 3.14, emulated on kernels >> 2.6.27+, otherwise the same as free) >> >> >> >> On Tue, 2021-05-04 at 13:07 +0300, linux.il wrote: >> > "Available" output seems weird, or I'm missing something? >> > Any ideas? >> > >> > TIA, Vitaly >> > >> > free -m >> > totalusedfree shared buff/cache >> > available >> > Mem: 31654 29883 937 1 832 >> > 27675 >> > Swap: 0 0 0 >> >> >> -- >> "Prior to capitalism, the way people amassed great wealth was by >> looting, plundering and enslaving their fellow man. Capitalism made it >> possible to become wealthy by serving your fellow man." - Walter E. >> Williams >> My own blog is at https://tddpirate.zak.co.il/ >> >> My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. >> They do not represent the official policy of any organization with >> which I may be affiliated in any way. >> WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at https://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Linux-il mailing list >> Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il >> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il >> > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: קול קורא - מפגש אמנים / קוד פתוח בחיפה
2015-11-05 18:30 GMT+02:00 Amichai Rotman <amic...@iglu.org.il>: > Will you consider participating in such a meet, as I suggested? > Of course, I'd be happy to participate. > Amichai > On Nov 5, 2015 6:13 PM, "Ori Idan" <o...@helicontech.co.il> wrote: > >> >> 2015-11-05 14:50 GMT+02:00 Amichai Rotman <amic...@iglu.org.il>: >> >>> שלום לכולם, >>> >>> חבר שלי סיים לימודי עיצוב גרפי במכללת תלתן בחיפה. כמובן שבמכללה לימדו >>> אותם לעבוד עם מוצרי Adobe בלבד... >>> >>> לפני כמה ימים הוא הציב לי אתגר: >>> >>> נמאס לו ממערכת ההפעלה של מיקרוסופט והוא ביקש ממני למצוא דרך להעביר אותו >>> ללינוקס אבל לוודא שהוא יכול להמשיך להשתמש במוצרי Adobe ולשחק במשחקים שלו >>> במחשב. >>> >>> כיום יש לו מחשב נייד של Asus עם מעבד אינטל i7 ו-8 גיגה זיכרון - עם >>> Windows 8.1. >>> >>> חשבתי להפוך להתקין לו לינוקס לשימושים היום יומיים ואת ה-Windows כמכונה >>> וירטואלית עבור המשחקים וה-Adobe. >>> >>> בנוסף חשבתי אולי לקיים מפגש של אמנים שמשתמשים בהצלחה (או שלא) בתוכנות >>> קוד פתוח עבור עיצוב גרפי וכד' (GIMP, Blender, InkSkape וכו') - כדי לקיים >>> דיון פתוח על היתרונות והחסרונות בשימוש בקוד פתוח, דרכים להתקנה ושימוש >>> בתוכנות קנייניות בלינוקס (VM, WINE). >>> >>> דעתכם? >>> >>> עמיחי רוטמן >>> >> >> I will answer in English as there where many debates on language used in >> linux-il mailing list... >> >> I think this is a great idea, add to it SCRIBUS, desktop publishing that >> can act as a replacement to inDesign (although currently does not read >> inDesign files). >> >> ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: קול קורא - מפגש אמנים / קוד פתוח בחיפה
2015-11-05 14:50 GMT+02:00 Amichai Rotman: > שלום לכולם, > > חבר שלי סיים לימודי עיצוב גרפי במכללת תלתן בחיפה. כמובן שבמכללה לימדו אותם > לעבוד עם מוצרי Adobe בלבד... > > לפני כמה ימים הוא הציב לי אתגר: > > נמאס לו ממערכת ההפעלה של מיקרוסופט והוא ביקש ממני למצוא דרך להעביר אותו > ללינוקס אבל לוודא שהוא יכול להמשיך להשתמש במוצרי Adobe ולשחק במשחקים שלו > במחשב. > > כיום יש לו מחשב נייד של Asus עם מעבד אינטל i7 ו-8 גיגה זיכרון - עם Windows > 8.1. > > חשבתי להפוך להתקין לו לינוקס לשימושים היום יומיים ואת ה-Windows כמכונה > וירטואלית עבור המשחקים וה-Adobe. > > בנוסף חשבתי אולי לקיים מפגש של אמנים שמשתמשים בהצלחה (או שלא) בתוכנות קוד > פתוח עבור עיצוב גרפי וכד' (GIMP, Blender, InkSkape וכו') - כדי לקיים דיון > פתוח על היתרונות והחסרונות בשימוש בקוד פתוח, דרכים להתקנה ושימוש בתוכנות > קנייניות בלינוקס (VM, WINE). > > דעתכם? > > עמיחי רוטמן > I will answer in English as there where many debates on language used in linux-il mailing list... I think this is a great idea, add to it SCRIBUS, desktop publishing that can act as a replacement to inDesign (although currently does not read inDesign files). ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: OT: Biometric ID
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Amos Shapira amos.shap...@gmail.com wrote: BTW this anecdote might interest Yonathan Klinger and other anti-bio-id activists since it could be pointing a fatal flaw in the system. I guess you are right, it does point on a fatal flaw in the system. I guess that no one wanted to risk getting into this so no one encountered it yet. I am surprised the Gabor that is probably aware of all the risks decided to try it :-) -- Ori Idan On 15 Mar 2015 9:26 pm, Gabor Szabo ga...@szabgab.com wrote: A few weeks ago I asked to get a biometric ID. They took my finger prints and asked all kinds of funny questions to make sure its me. Today I went to pick up my new ID and their system could not recognize my finger prints. I got a bit nervous, but they calmed me down that I have nothing to worry because the finger prints are only for the Interior Ministry and they are sure the one in the system matches the one on my finger and that I will only need it when dealing with Interior Ministry and they will mark in the system that the fingerprints did not match when I received the ID. So apparently they have a field in the database for this information. They offered to order a new biometric card - claiming that the problem is only in the card, but they can only do that if first they give the broken one to me. So I'd have a card that can identify me without any doubt, except that the fingerprint in it cannot be matched to mine. I asked if I could get a new non-biometric ID, but I was told I cannot any more. Once I signed up for biometric ID, I cannot go back. Madness. Gabor ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [OFFTOPIC] Time varying FSMs
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Shachar Shemesh shac...@shemesh.biz wrote: On 28/01/15 20:04, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Omer Zak w...@zak.co.il w...@zak.co.il writes: After a brief Google search: Does anyone know about any research, theory or practice of time-varying finite state machines? Short answer: I don't. ;-) I'll offer a couple of thoughts, anyway. I mean FSMs which might grow a new state, remove a state, add/subtract transitions by means of meta-rules. I suppose it may be possible to write a FSM in such a way that adding/removing the allowed states and transitions dynamically would be possible. This would not be enough, though: any interesting FSM would not just formally move from one state to another but do custom stuff as a part of a transition, and one would want to create and load such custom code dynamically. Didn't you just describe a Turing machine? Turing machine is finite and has certain number of states with defined transitions. I think what Omer meant here was more of a dynamic Turing machine. -- Ori Idan Shachar ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Adding external HDD to Raspberry Pi
The signal is supposed to be differential, however there are some devices that take each line with the ground as reference and only then subtract it. On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Alex Shnitman alext...@gmail.com wrote: Isn't the USB signal differential? I understand that this means that the signal is encoded by the difference between the two data pins (which are connected by a twisted cable pair) rather than by referencing to ground. If that's the case, the ground shouldn't matter for the signal transmission. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Ori Idan o...@helicontech.co.il wrote: On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Alex Shnitman alext...@gmail.com wrote: Power on the Raspberry Pi is a tricky business. I think on the B+ they've made it easier to deal with but it still cannot pass through a lot of current. So a powered hub is necessary, as previous posters mentioned. It does indeed backfeed into the Pi. I used thin stripes of electrical tape to cover the outer two contacts within the USB connector of the cable that connects the Pi to the hub, and that took care of that problem. Also, I found out that my hub (a cheap piece bought from DX), even when externally powered, would draw some current from the Pi during load. So the electrical tape took care of that too. I find it strange that it actually work since if you isolated both the power and the ground pins, the data pins are left floated. That might work but cause noise problems. So if you do want to isolate, isolate only the power pin. If you have a good power supply for the hub you can power your Pi from the hub itself with an additional cable (i.e. the hub will be connected to the Pi twice, once with a USB A-B cable like any hub, and once with a USB A - MicroUSB B, from one of the hub's ports into the Pi's power supply port). This removes the need for a second power supply. One problem that I faced, though, was that a wifi dongle connected to the hub was being disconnected and reconnected every few minutes. I plugged it directly into the Pi itself and it works flawlessly. I still don't know why that problem happened; after all, they both are on the same power supply (the hub's). Other devices on this hub (the Pi itself as well as other stuff) seem to work fine. Maybe the hub's power supply is noisy and the Pi filters it when it passes it through. No idea. Alex Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Adding external HDD to Raspberry Pi
On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Alex Shnitman alext...@gmail.com wrote: Power on the Raspberry Pi is a tricky business. I think on the B+ they've made it easier to deal with but it still cannot pass through a lot of current. So a powered hub is necessary, as previous posters mentioned. It does indeed backfeed into the Pi. I used thin stripes of electrical tape to cover the outer two contacts within the USB connector of the cable that connects the Pi to the hub, and that took care of that problem. Also, I found out that my hub (a cheap piece bought from DX), even when externally powered, would draw some current from the Pi during load. So the electrical tape took care of that too. I find it strange that it actually work since if you isolated both the power and the ground pins, the data pins are left floated. That might work but cause noise problems. So if you do want to isolate, isolate only the power pin. If you have a good power supply for the hub you can power your Pi from the hub itself with an additional cable (i.e. the hub will be connected to the Pi twice, once with a USB A-B cable like any hub, and once with a USB A - MicroUSB B, from one of the hub's ports into the Pi's power supply port). This removes the need for a second power supply. One problem that I faced, though, was that a wifi dongle connected to the hub was being disconnected and reconnected every few minutes. I plugged it directly into the Pi itself and it works flawlessly. I still don't know why that problem happened; after all, they both are on the same power supply (the hub's). Other devices on this hub (the Pi itself as well as other stuff) seem to work fine. Maybe the hub's power supply is noisy and the Pi filters it when it passes it through. No idea. Alex Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Running a script for email received
I am trying to run a script when an email is received on my server. I tried what described here: http://blog.thecodingmachine.com/content/triggering-php-script-when-your-postfix-server-receives-mail But it invoked the script for all mails not mail to a specific user I tried the simplest thing of /etc/alias But got error: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual alias table Does anyone have any idea how to run a script for mail sent to a specific user? -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Which company or individual can sponsor me on a summer trip to Europe?
Ok, I'll jump on this wagon, I also want sponsorship, I ask for half the amount that Shlomi is asking. I will use the money to buy a sailing yacht and sail around the world, Ok maybe not around the world but at least in the Mediterranean. In return to this generous sponsorship I will put the name of the company on the sails of the yacht. Note that sail areas is around 30 sqr. meters so there is a huge area for a big add. Any takers? N.B. regard this message a humor (although I would not resist to really get such donation) I already have my own company, however this company's earnings at this point allow me to sponsor a little more then Falafel dish at a Kiosk stand, it still does not allow me to sponsor neither my own yacht nor Shlomi's trip. -- Ori Idan On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 7:28 AM, Shlomi Fish shlo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Geoffrey, hope you had a great Shabbath by the time you're reading it. You're raising some interesting points which I'd like to address, and I apologise if I weren't clear and explicit before. On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 10:35 AM, geoffrey mendelson geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/4/2014 8:56 AM, Shlomi Fish wrote: Hi all, I wish to go on a Summer trip to Europe (flight to Istanbul and then taking trains) where I: ROTFL. Not only do I not think this belongs on this list, but it's ridiculous. Why do you feel it does not belong on this list? Many people here offer jobs or ask for jobs, and my offer can provide a lot of promotion and publicity to a company/individual/organisation who wishes to sponsor me. Regarding ridiculous there is http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/fortunes/show.cgi?id=same-ideas-as-everybody-else : « If you have the same ideas as everybody else, but have them one week earlier than everyone else - then you will be hailed as a visionary. But if you have them five years earlier, you will be named a lunatic. » Some of the things I predicted and/or projected are: * http://www.advogato.org/article/361.html - world-editable screenplays for films back in 2001 - I was told it will likely not going to work, but now there are many screenplay projects which use wiki-style interfaces, and there quite a many successful world-editable-or-almost-world-editable wikis out there (e.g: the Wikimedia project, the Wikias, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_Tropes ). * http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/human-hacking/ - in this story I describe FOSS (and to a lesser extent open content/culture) geeks, and especially female geeks, as chic, intelligent, attractive, socially capable, and sexually assertive, and not only are they mainstream, but they are the alphas - the constant object of attraction and often jealousy of their peers. Back after I finished writing it in 2004 and publicised it for scrutiny on the linux-elitists mailing list - http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/human-hacking/conclusions/#review--modus-operandi - I was criticised for making it look like being a FOSS/open-culture hacker was a gateway to popularity, but now it is quite common all around the world, as exemplified by the success of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Big_Bang_Theory , and not only are almost all attractive female attracted to geeks, but most of them are geeky[Geeky] themselves, *and* yet they are not socially awkward or sexually inept. [Geeky] - see http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=401 for what is a geek , as well as what Paul Graham wrote about amateurs and hackers. If I were in a position to sponsor anyone for more than a felafel at a stand up kiosk, I would consider this so unreasonable that it's just laughable. As I said, IF I were going to fund someone, I might consider a plan that includes 2 $1,000 airplane tickets, and about $1,000 a week for hotel, food, transportation within each country and train fare to the next country, for a week in a country to give 4-5 FOSS lectures, and then move on. You probably could start in the Irish Republic and bounce along to the Russian Republic which would take around 15-20 weeks. My lectures are not only about FOSS - they are also about free/open culture/content, and mix and match other topics such as love/romance/relationships, action, humour, history, science, amateur philosophy, etc. See: http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/fortunes/ Anyway, you are right that I probably overestimated the cost and can survive on much less. Regarding Ireland - Russia - I'm not interested only in software development hubs, but in general - every centre of commerce is game for me: Rome, Athens, Istanbul, Berlin, London, Madrid, Barcelona, Paris, Amsterdam, Copenhagen, Oslo, Stockholm, Vienna, Riga, Vilnius, Budapest, Bucharest, etc. etc. Or you could the same thing for about 1.5 times the money in the US, which would take an entire year, one week per state. I'm: 1. Not going to .us any time soon. 2. Not interested in being 100
Re: Upgrading Ubuntu from 12.04 to 14.04
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Uri Even-Chen u...@speedy.net wrote: Hi people, I work at my job with Ubuntu 12.04 and we run Django 1.4.12 locally with Python 2.7.3 and PostgreSQL. We want to upgrade Django from 1.4 to 1.6 and I also thought it would be a good idea to upgrade Python to 2.7.6 and maybe even 3, so I tried to upgrade Ubuntu to 14.04. But after I completed the upgrade, Django didn't work and I couldn't even run migrations (with South). I had to reinstall Ubuntu 12.04 and I lost all the files I had in my home directory (because I chose not to keep Ubuntu 14.04) except some files that I backed up. My questions are: 1. What do we need to do in order for Django to work with Ubuntu 14.04? 2. Why isn't it possible to reinstall Ubuntu 12.04 after upgrading to 14.04 and still keep all the files in my home directory, while not keeping all the other files (the operating system files)? Why do you think it is not possible? I do it all the time. I keep my home directory in a separate partition so when I upgrade (or downgrade) the OS the home directory stays the same. -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Printing UTF-8 in C
I need to print several Hebrew characters (UTF-8) to the terminal. My locale is set to he_IL.UTF-8 so it shows Hebrew on the terminal, however printing from C gives me Chinese characters. My question is how to print one character such as 'א' to the terminal. -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Printing UTF-8 in C
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Baruch Siach bar...@tkos.co.il wrote: Hi Dov, On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 08:53:38PM +0200, Dov Grobgeld wrote: Writing hebrew to the terminal is a bad idea because terminals do not support BiDi reordering. That said, doing cat small-hello.utf8[1] works for me in gnome-term (though it is reversed). No special environment variables were defined. But Ori has specifically asked about sending just one character to terminal. cat treats everything like binary data. baruch I don't care at this stage about bidi. I still could not find out how to print even once character, I tried printf and putwchar. -- Ori Idan On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 8:34 PM, Ori Idan o...@helicontech.co.il wrote: I need to print several Hebrew characters (UTF-8) to the terminal. My locale is set to he_IL.UTF-8 so it shows Hebrew on the terminal, however printing from C gives me Chinese characters. My question is how to print one character such as 'א' to the terminal. -- Ori Idan -- http://baruch.siach.name/blog/ ~. .~ Tk Open Systems =}ooO--U--Ooo{= - bar...@tkos.co.il - tel: +972.2.679.5364, http://www.tkos.co.il - ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Printing UTF-8 in C
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Dov Grobgeld dov.grobg...@gmail.comwrote: The most unixy way is to treat everything as binary UTF-8 and then forget about encodings. The following program works just fine: #include stdio.h int main() { printf(Hello שלום!\n); } Compile with: cc -o hello hello.c ./hello Hello שלום! (Though שלום is inversed in the terminal). That works, but I need one character such as 'א' to be printed and to be able to print 'ב' as 'א' + 1 Does someone have any idea how to do it? -- Ori Idan On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Baruch Siach bar...@tkos.co.il wrote: Hi Dov, On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 08:53:38PM +0200, Dov Grobgeld wrote: Writing hebrew to the terminal is a bad idea because terminals do not support BiDi reordering. That said, doing cat small-hello.utf8[1] works for me in gnome-term (though it is reversed). No special environment variables were defined. But Ori has specifically asked about sending just one character to terminal. cat treats everything like binary data. baruch On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 8:34 PM, Ori Idan o...@helicontech.co.il wrote: I need to print several Hebrew characters (UTF-8) to the terminal. My locale is set to he_IL.UTF-8 so it shows Hebrew on the terminal, however printing from C gives me Chinese characters. My question is how to print one character such as 'א' to the terminal. -- Ori Idan -- http://baruch.siach.name/blog/ ~. .~ Tk Open Systems =}ooO--U--Ooo{= - bar...@tkos.co.il - tel: +972.2.679.5364, http://www.tkos.co.il - ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: linux-friendly ebook with decent support in Israel?
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 4:24 PM, geoffrey mendelson geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote: On 1/9/2014 3:08 PM, Vassilii Khachaturov wrote: Thanks for your answer. When I posted a link to a matrix of all the current eink-based readers, I assumed it is obvious I want an e-ink based one. I'd think dedicated reader would be more energy/weight/price efficient than a general purpose tablet, but anything with e-ink will do! Also, as I had stated, I'm not interested in buying DRM books anyway... Not really. You can buy an active display android tablet for about the same money. E-ink displays are more energy efficient, but slow. You end up hitting the next button before you finish a page in the hope that it starts to refresh before you get to the last word in the page and finishes as you do. They also suck for displaying material that was originally color or scanned material. I have many books that were scanned and they are unreadable on an e-ink display, E-ink was an idea which came and went. Not true at all. e-Ink continues to be developed and now is much quicker then it used to be. Many vendors are developing new e-ink platforms. I can reveal that I am working with one company on a better version of their system that will be sold in Israel when it is done. It is based on Android, will be able to read mostly EPUB but also PDF. The same company is also developing a cellular phone with eInk touch display. -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Does anyone use MATE (Gnome 2 fork)?
I've just install mate and I must say it is great. It is great to see again the good old user interface. Much better then Unity, Gnome3 seems to be lighter then cinnamon I used before it. -- Ori Idan On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Amichai Rotman amic...@iglu.org.ilwrote: I am using Unity 5.14 on Ubuntu 12.04.3 and I am *very* pleased. Very rare crashes, easily solve with 'unity -- replace'. Most of them happen when I switch between displays (Monitor via DVI and TV via HDMI). It took me about a week to get used to it, but now I feel it will be hard for me to switch to another Desktop Manager... Amichai. 2013/11/15 Rami Rosen rosenr...@gmail.com Hi, I was also disappointed with Gnome 3 on recent Fedora releases. I tried using Gnome classic mode but still there were issues. Most disturbing was with the JEdit editor. I also tried using MATE, but I still had issues with the JEdit editor. So after years of using Gnome on various Fedora releases, I switched several months ago to KDE, after years of using Gnome 3. The issues with JEdit are solved with KDE. Note: 1) it seems to me that launching an application in KDE (from the application menu or from a desktop shortcut) is really slower than with Gnome. However I did not tried to delved into it - maybe there are some KDE plugins which can be disabled, or other tweaks. 2) The issues I had with JEdit might be due to that I am not using the latest release of JEdit (from my own/legacy reasons). I do not want to upgrade from my own reasons, which I can describe if anyone is interested to hear. Rami Rosen http://ramirose.wix.com/ramirosen On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Omer Zak w...@zak.co.il wrote: After reading Ilan Shavit's blog article about his disappointment from Gnome 3 (http://ilsh.info/archives/3084), I found about the Gnome 2 fork MATE (http://mate-desktop.org/). Before installing MATE on my Debian Wheezy system, I would like to know other people's experience with it. Thanks, --- Omer -- We will only have peace with the Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us. Golda Meir (Israeli Prime Minister between 1969-1974) My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: accounting software *free open source*
On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 8:16 AM, E.S. Rosenberg e...@g.jct.ac.il wrote: 2013/7/7 Ori Idan o...@helicontech.co.il: On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 1:53 AM, Geoffrey S. Mendelson geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/7/2013 1:20 AM, Micha Feigin wrote: On the other hand as memory serves, you can run your books using an open source software and then submit the printouts to a certified accounted to make a legal report. You may need to work with generic receipts in parallel though. As it was explained to me by my accountant, the tax authorities don't care how you keep YOUR books, they only care that the submissions to them are done properly. Properly means that an accepted (certified?) program is used and that the data was entered by a level 3 (starts at 1) certified bookkeeper or a certified public accountant (CPA). In real terms this means for small business the data is sent to your accountant and they (or their certified bookkeeper) enters it into their program on their computer and submits that to the tax authorities. At that point the responsibility for the data being entered properly and the program being a legal one is borne by your accountant and not you. IMHO this is preferable because my experience in being an independent consultant, the owner of a small consulting firm, and involved with startups over various times, is that any money spent paying a professional to keep your books and prepare your tax returns is well worth it. YMMV. Most accountants will accept data in XLS (Excel spreadsheet format), so you can enter the data in an Excel spreadsheet and send them the file. I assume that an Excel spreadsheet created and maintained by OpenOffice would be acceptable to them. Geoff. Tax authorities has nothing against OSS software and they already gave approval to OSS software twice (Drorit, my software and it's fork Linet, both GPL). The real truth is that they only ask to see several things: 1. Invoices can not be deleted and numbered sequentially without repeating. 2. No simple ability to delete transcations 3. Output of what they call Open Format files, these are files with all transactions in a special format they require. That is all, no question about OSS or not. There was a debate last time they registered Linet and they agreed to register it so they have nothing against OSS. GNUCASH can not be registered since it can not output Open Format files. Note that I have good experience and knowledge about the subject as I make a living out of Accounting software. I have written several software packages and also consult business about the same. Both drorit and linet run server side, gnucash runs on my computer and the tax authority has no way of knowing whether I doctored my version of gnucash. Even with drorit and linet, will the tax authority accept it if I install it on my server (and as a result have full control over all the demands you listed) or did they only approve the version running on company X's servers? Logically it seems only the second would be the case... Linet does not run on a server it is run locally. The request is that you can not change or delete transactions from the software itself or by a normal user. There is no request to not be able to change at all. They accept that knowledgeable user with root privileges on the system can delete transactions. -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: accounting software
On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Shachar Shemesh shac...@shemesh.biz wrote: On 06/07/13 08:45, Ori Idan wrote: Again you did not understand me. It is illegal to treat proforma as if it was an invoice and thus create double transactions. Since you will issue an invoice when you get the payment. Double accounting need be *either* cash based *or* commitment based. You cannot validly mix the two. That much is true. However: 1. The requirements by law to approve an invoicing system need not include accounting at all, much less make sure it conforms to any particular standard. It is true that that will not allow you to issue אישור ניהול ספרים if you are required to keep double bookkeeping, but most people who are required to do that pay someone to do it. As such, I don't think saying illegal does this justice. 2. Performa invoices transactions have three stages, instead of the more traditional two. There is the payment requirement stage (the performa invoice), the formal transaction stage (the tax invoice) and the actual payment. You are right that creating two transactions, one for the performa and one for the tax invoices, is wrong, whether it is illegal largely depends on the way the tax is calculated. If the VAT payment is calculated to the right amount at the right time, I don't see how that is a problem. Performa invoice have two stages (the third one is the receipt). The bug Linet had was that they would record transactions the same as invoice and thus when issuing the invoice you had two monitarry tansactions while you should have had only one. So it was never balanced since if you issued an invoice on 1000 ILS, received payment of 1000 ILS The balance is 0 which is Ok. If you had the Performa recorded as transactions you would have a balance of 1000. For simplification I did not include VAT here. -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: accounting software *free open source*
On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 1:53 AM, Geoffrey S. Mendelson geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/7/2013 1:20 AM, Micha Feigin wrote: On the other hand as memory serves, you can run your books using an open source software and then submit the printouts to a certified accounted to make a legal report. You may need to work with generic receipts in parallel though. As it was explained to me by my accountant, the tax authorities don't care how you keep YOUR books, they only care that the submissions to them are done properly. Properly means that an accepted (certified?) program is used and that the data was entered by a level 3 (starts at 1) certified bookkeeper or a certified public accountant (CPA). In real terms this means for small business the data is sent to your accountant and they (or their certified bookkeeper) enters it into their program on their computer and submits that to the tax authorities. At that point the responsibility for the data being entered properly and the program being a legal one is borne by your accountant and not you. IMHO this is preferable because my experience in being an independent consultant, the owner of a small consulting firm, and involved with startups over various times, is that any money spent paying a professional to keep your books and prepare your tax returns is well worth it. YMMV. Most accountants will accept data in XLS (Excel spreadsheet format), so you can enter the data in an Excel spreadsheet and send them the file. I assume that an Excel spreadsheet created and maintained by OpenOffice would be acceptable to them. Geoff. Tax authorities has nothing against OSS software and they already gave approval to OSS software twice (Drorit, my software and it's fork Linet, both GPL). The real truth is that they only ask to see several things: 1. Invoices can not be deleted and numbered sequentially without repeating. 2. No simple ability to delete transcations 3. Output of what they call Open Format files, these are files with all transactions in a special format they require. That is all, no question about OSS or not. There was a debate last time they registered Linet and they agreed to register it so they have nothing against OSS. GNUCASH can not be registered since it can not output Open Format files. Note that I have good experience and knowledge about the subject as I make a living out of Accounting software. I have written several software packages and also consult business about the same. -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: accounting software
ifreelance can export most of it's reports as CSV so I guess it may be enough to connect to other software. On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 3:54 PM, sara fink sara.f...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks. Now the question is, if freelance can connect to other software On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Ori Idan o...@helicontech.co.il wrote: There are several software packages I wrote that are all accepted. The best one I can recommend is: http://www.ifreelance.co.il Free of charge for most cases. Also has an API for use from ecommerece websites. Can send invoices by mail (not free, requires purchase of digital signature for 100 ILS a year) Linet is a fork of my Drorit software and unfortunately copied all the bugs I had and add more of their own. Although it is accepted by the Tax authorities it has few bugs that render it useless such as creating transactions for non tax invoice (Heshbonit Iska) I wonder How they got their tax certificate with this bug since it is illegal. However I heard that in recent version they fixed it. -- Ori Idan On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda ladyp...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.ucan2.co.il/ works with Linux. On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 4:45 PM, sara fink sara.f...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Everyone I would like to know which accounting software (besides linet) is accepted by Israeli tax authorities? ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda. http://ladypine.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: accounting software
You can use the API to issue the receipts from any other software. On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 1:25 AM, sara fink sara.f...@gmail.com wrote: The program has to connect to a hotel management program (hoteldroid) and has to provide receipts. On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 4:54 PM, Amichai Rotman amic...@iglu.org.ilwrote: Sara, You might also consider GeeeX CRM [1]. It's based on vTiger CRM but the Hebrew translation was redone and an Invoice module was written in, authorized by the Israeli Revenue Service. [1] http://free.geeex.net Amichai. On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Ori Idan o...@helicontech.co.il wrote: ifreelance can export most of it's reports as CSV so I guess it may be enough to connect to other software. On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 3:54 PM, sara fink sara.f...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks. Now the question is, if freelance can connect to other software On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Ori Idan o...@helicontech.co.il wrote: There are several software packages I wrote that are all accepted. The best one I can recommend is: http://www.ifreelance.co.il Free of charge for most cases. Also has an API for use from ecommerece websites. Can send invoices by mail (not free, requires purchase of digital signature for 100 ILS a year) Linet is a fork of my Drorit software and unfortunately copied all the bugs I had and add more of their own. Although it is accepted by the Tax authorities it has few bugs that render it useless such as creating transactions for non tax invoice (Heshbonit Iska) I wonder How they got their tax certificate with this bug since it is illegal. However I heard that in recent version they fixed it. -- Ori Idan On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda ladyp...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.ucan2.co.il/ works with Linux. On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 4:45 PM, sara fink sara.f...@gmail.comwrote: Hello Everyone I would like to know which accounting software (besides linet) is accepted by Israeli tax authorities? ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda. http://ladypine.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: accounting software
On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 7:06 AM, Shachar Shemesh shac...@shemesh.biz wrote: On 04/07/13 17:34, Ori Idan wrote: There are several software packages I wrote that are all accepted. The best one I can recommend is: http://www.ifreelance.co.il Free of charge for most cases. Also has an API for use from ecommerece websites. Can send invoices by mail (not free, requires purchase of digital signature for 100 ILS a year) Linet is a fork of my Drorit software and unfortunately copied all the bugs I had and add more of their own. Although it is accepted by the Tax authorities it has few bugs that render it useless such as creating transactions for non tax invoice (Heshbonit Iska) I wonder How they got their tax certificate with this bug since it is illegal. How do you figure that it is illegal? If it is illegal, why did the Knesset go to all this bother to pass a law that *requires* clients to accept a performa invoice from small businesses? Proforma invoice by itself is legal. What is illegal is creating transactions as it if was an invoice. -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: accounting software
On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Shachar Shemesh shac...@shemesh.biz wrote: On 06/07/13 08:33, Ori Idan wrote: On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 7:06 AM, Shachar Shemesh shac...@shemesh.bizwrote: On 04/07/13 17:34, Ori Idan wrote: There are several software packages I wrote that are all accepted. The best one I can recommend is: http://www.ifreelance.co.il Free of charge for most cases. Also has an API for use from ecommerece websites. Can send invoices by mail (not free, requires purchase of digital signature for 100 ILS a year) Linet is a fork of my Drorit software and unfortunately copied all the bugs I had and add more of their own. Although it is accepted by the Tax authorities it has few bugs that render it useless such as creating transactions for non tax invoice (Heshbonit Iska) I wonder How they got their tax certificate with this bug since it is illegal. How do you figure that it is illegal? If it is illegal, why did the Knesset go to all this bother to pass a law that *requires* clients to accept a performa invoice from small businesses? Proforma invoice by itself is legal. What is illegal is creating transactions as it if was an invoice. Are you saying it is illegal to create an accounting program that tracks payment done על בסיס מזומן? If so, how is a big company that receives a performa invoice supposed to track it? Again you did not understand me. It is illegal to treat proforma as if it was an invoice and thus create double transactions. Since you will issue an invoice when you get the payment. -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: accounting software
There are several software packages I wrote that are all accepted. The best one I can recommend is: http://www.ifreelance.co.il Free of charge for most cases. Also has an API for use from ecommerece websites. Can send invoices by mail (not free, requires purchase of digital signature for 100 ILS a year) Linet is a fork of my Drorit software and unfortunately copied all the bugs I had and add more of their own. Although it is accepted by the Tax authorities it has few bugs that render it useless such as creating transactions for non tax invoice (Heshbonit Iska) I wonder How they got their tax certificate with this bug since it is illegal. However I heard that in recent version they fixed it. -- Ori Idan On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda ladyp...@gmail.comwrote: http://www.ucan2.co.il/ works with Linux. On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 4:45 PM, sara fink sara.f...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Everyone I would like to know which accounting software (besides linet) is accepted by Israeli tax authorities? ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda. http://ladypine.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Help wanted
Hello, One of my customers is doing Automatic Test Equipment for Electronic boards. Currently most of the tests are written using Linux and perl. I need someone to help me and take over my position there. I need a freelance that is available for about 3 to 4 days a week. Work is in Kfar Saba. Please contact me directly -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Finding if a line contains Hebrew characters in perl
I have a script in perl where I read lines from a UTF-8 text file. I have to find out if a line contains at least 3 letters in Hebrew. How can this be done in perl? -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Announcing New Israeli Tech User Groups
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 7:24 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.comwrote: On Mon, 1 Apr 2013 11:21:42 +0300 Shlomi Fish shlo...@shlomifish.org wrote: Hi all, My series of books about mastering UNIX tools (see: http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/bits/Mastering-Cat/ ) has enjoyed tremendous success, and now I decided to take it to the next logical level. As a result, I have decided to start up several special interest groups (SIGs) or user groups for the tools that I covered in the series: * TelAviv.cm - the Tel Aviv cat(1) mongers. * Haifa.ec - the Haifa echo chamberists. * Jerusalem.tb - the Jerusalem true believers. * Eilat.fh - the Eilat false hoodies. We will soon announce the upcoming meetings of these user-groups on our calendar. Best regards, — Shlomi Fish I'm sorry Shlomi, but I already have trademarks on all four of those groups. Can you provide a proof? I think Shlomi is the best authority for cat and therefore it is only natural that Shlomi will lead the group of cat mongers As for the other groups I don't know. -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [ANN] My Transition from a Software Developer to a Writer/amateur-philosopher/entertainer/Internet celebrity
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Shlomi Fish shlo...@shlomifish.org wrote: Hi all, in case you missed my post on blogs.perl.org, see: * http://blogs.perl.org/users/shlomi_fish/2013/03/ann-my-transition-from-software-developer-to-writerentertaineramateur-philosopherinternet-celebrity.html (short URL - http://xrl.us/bonezw ). Reading from it: I'd like to make an announcement: after some serious thought, I decided that from now on, being a software developer (which I am not too bad at) will only be the means (but the absolutely necessary ones) to me being a writer / entertainer / philosopher / Internet celebrity (a little bit of all those and then some) whose main pride and passion is his personal web site, which is full of a lot of material, and various pages and material is constantly added to it. Nice move Shlomi, but as a writer (with 2 books published in print and 4 as EPUBS) I can say that I prefer to keep doing it as a hobby and not as my day job. If I had made writing my day job (which is something I wanted few years ago), I'd be forced to be commercial and write about what people really want to read or the way people like to read. These days I started to make my living connected to writing but not directly from writing. I now make my living from digital books consulting and services and still work as a software consultant. -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: IE standardization falling
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Mord Behar mord...@gmail.com wrote: Remember all the problems that we had (have) with sites built only for IE? Well, that apparently is no longer a problem! http://www.networkworld.com/news/2013/021313-internet-explorer-266698.html?hpg1=bn And since Israel is about 5 years behind the USA on most trends, then we should be OK by 2018. :D IE does not seem to take much market share today. In my website (http://www.heliconbooks.com) that a use get specific version of the website depending on where he comes from, I see that IE is less then 10 percent total. In other websites I manage which are geared towards Israeli readers, IE market share is up to 30% and falling. It used to be 40% about a year ago. -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hebrew (other languages) in Cinnamon?
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 7:06 PM, E.S. Rosenberg esr+linux...@g.jct.ac.ilwrote: Installing the localizations and setting language to hebrew like in gnome2/3 doesn't work? system-settings language support 2013/1/31 Dan Bar Dov bar...@gmail.com I started to use Cinnamon desktop on my Ubuntu 12.04LTS. Does anyone know how to add hebrew support? (hebrew keyboard input). Go to settings - Keyboard - Layout settings (looks like a link at the bottom of the window). From there, add Hebrew layout. -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: hacking the government, the British way
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Oleg Goldshmidt p...@goldshmidt.org wrote: Hi, We have elections on the horizon and a bunch of NGO members, from Hamakor down, up, and sideways, on this list. And we often see - and complained about - cluelessness in government IT, software, websites, etc. So, it looks like the UK government is trying to do something that sounds on the face of it, vaguely intelligent about IT projects, cf. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/02/cabinet_office_open_principles/ I am not trying to say this is going to be brilliant or workable or not prone to subversion by Sir Humphreys[*], but given how gov.il is always keen to look abroad to justify doing or not doing stuff, maybe someone should point it out to some politicians looking for votes in January? If ths generates any heated or prolonged discussions may I suggest conducting them on the appropriate NGO lists and forums? I am not a member of any, so it was easier for me to post here in the belief that it is on topic. How to best influence the politicians, however, probably isn't, unless someone hacks up a Linux-based AI to run the country. [*] Some of the younger list members may need, e.g., http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yes_Minister to understand who Sir Humphrey was. The rest of us may well be reminded that the fictional Minister whose efforts to reform things were so often thwarted by Sir Humphrey was called Jim Hacker. -- Oleg Goldshmidt | p...@goldshmidt.org The people behind gov.il think that .doc is an open standard since after all it can be opened by every computer they know of. -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Crossover give away
Have you noticed the following: http://www.codeweavers.com/about/general/press/20121029/ Did someone try it? -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [HAIFUX LECTURE] Israeli Digital Rights NPO -- Zvi Devir
The initial of the name is somewhat confusing. We usually see DRM in the sense if Digital Rights Management which is something that as I understand is something that this movement is against :-) -- Ori Idan On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Eli Billauer e...@billauer.co.il wrote: On Monday, October 29th at 18:30, Haifux will gather to hear a talk by Zvi Devir: Israeli Digital Rights NPO Abstract The Digital Rights Movement stands between advanced technology and people rights (in the broad sense). Technological advance provides us with new products and new means of interacting with our surrounding. It provides a customer more flexibility and new ways of using a given product. However, it can be used to control and limit the usability of the product. For example, a customer buys a product, a certain book. Does it matters if the product is a digital book or an old-fashioned printed book? The customer should have the same usability rights to read the book, the right to read in private, without anyone knowing when and where it was read, to quote a few lines from the book, to lend it to a friend, and to sell the book to someone else. However, technological measures can curb, if not to render useless, some of those rights. The Digital Rights Movement (DRM) was registered in 2010. It follows the steps of the Electrical Frontier Foundation (EFF), which was founded in 1993, and is the model of most digital rights organizations in the western world. The main goal of the DRM is to protect people rights when are endangered or threatened by technology measures. Consumer rights are only one front. Privacy is another. Freedom of expression is a third. And there are many more. Initial thought about establishing the DRM started during the struggle against the biometric database law in 2009. We came to a conclusion that there is no NPO in Israel which exclusively focuses on these areas. The Association for Civil Rights in Israel (ACRI) is addressing violations of citizen rights of all types. The Israel Consumer Council handles only direct violation of customers rights. Other organizations (Hamakor, ISOC, Wikimedia IL) address specific aspects of the digital world. The DRM has only recently started to operate. It sends official stand letters to the Knesset and different ministries, its members are participating in Knesset committees. Recently, the DRM (with ACRI) had a successful high court petition against the biometric database law, which forced the state to recheck the necessity of a national-wide biometric database for the issuance of smart identity cards. Further information on the DRM can be found in its website http://digitalrights.org.il. ==**==**= We meet in Taub building, room 6. For instructions see: http://www.haifux.org/where.**html http://www.haifux.org/where.html Attendance is free, and you are all invited! ==**==**== Future lectures: 12/11/12 What more can industry learn from open source? Yael Vaya-Talmor ==**==**== We are always interested in hearing your talks and ideas. If you wish to give a talk, hold a discussion, or just plan some event haifux might be interested in, please contact us at webmas...@haifux.org -- Web: http://www.billauer.co.il __**_ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/**mailman/listinfo/linux-ilhttp://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: printer
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Constantine Shulyupin co...@makelinux.co.il wrote: Which multifunctional printer for home (SOHO) would you recommend to purchase from available currently in Israel? Which store network? I have HP OfficeJet 4500 works great with Ubuntu, I don't remember any particular problems setting it. I bought is from office-depot -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: jobnet from linux
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Geoff Shang ge...@quitelikely.com wrote: On Thu, 31 May 2012, Aharon Schkolnik wrote: Well, I guess that could make sense - your browser (I am not familiar with Iceweasel is unbranded firefox. No problem here (Ubuntu 11.10 using chromium). -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: dog db search supported only by msie - the response
Ask why. Why did they choose to disregard international standards? What are their plans for obeying standards in the future? They should understand that this is not a matter of Microsoft vs. Firefox or chrome this is a matter of disregarding international standards. -- Ori Idan 2012/5/7 Erez D erez0...@gmail.com what should i do with the response below ? (read anat's reaction). -- Forwarded message -- From: ברוך הלוי [Baruch Levi] baru...@moag.gov.il Date: 2012/5/7 Subject: RE: חיפוש במאגר הכלבים To: ענת אלזרקי [Anat Alzraki] an...@moag.gov.il Cc: erez0...@gmail.com ** ** ** ** שלום בשלב הזה כפי ככתוב באתר אנחנו תומכים בסייר של מיקרוסופט בלבד ** ** בברכה ברוך הלוי מרכז ארצי לרישום כלבים משרד החקלאות ** ** -- *From:* ענת אלזרקי [Anat Alzraki] *Sent:* Sunday, May 06, 2012 10:51 AM *To:* ברוך הלוי [Baruch Levi]; **בוריס יעקובסון [**Boris Yakobson**]** *Subject:* FW: חיפוש במאגר הכלבים ** ** ** ** תשיבו למיילל למטה ** ** *בברכה*** *אלזרקי ענת* *המרכז הארצי לרישום כלבים* *טלפון: 03-9681610* *פקס: 03-9681753*** * * * * * * ** ** -- *From**:* Erez D [mailto:erez0...@gmail.com] *Sent**:* Thursday, May 03, 2012 6:12 PM *To**:* **Dog** **Center** *Subject**:* חיפוש במאגר הכלבים ** ** שלום רב אני מנסה לחפש במאגר הכלבים : http://www.vtr.moag.gov.il/vtr/DogCenter/search.asp אך איני מצליח- לא בפלאפון, לא בטאבלט ולא ב PC שמריץ לינוקס לא נראה לי סביר שאני צריך לשלם על רישיון של ווינדוז בכדי לחפש במאגר ממשלתי הייתי מצפה מאתר ממשלתי שיהיה לפי התקן (ואז יעבוד לא רק באקפלורר - גם בפלפון בטאבלט, בלינוקס, במאק וכו...) תודה ארז. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: doesn't a gov.il site supposed to support more than just MSIE ?
2012/5/3 Oleg Goldshmidt p...@goldshmidt.org On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Nadav Har'El n...@math.technion.ac.ilwrote: Forget that their database only works with Microsoft Internet Explorer - why does it only work with dogs? Shouldn't our government also support cats? As in cat(1) or netcat(1)? Do you seriously believe the web developers of gov.il know they exist? And if they do, will they allow you to script queries and netcat them around? ;-) I think they don't even have any web developers and non of those responsible to their web site even knows they need a programmer. They think that web sites should be done without investing neither time nor money. -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
TCP/IP using perl
I have a simple device that I need to send few lines of data in TCP protocol. The device should respond on each line sent. I am using the following code: #!/usr/bin/perl use IO::Socket::INET; my ($socket,$client_socket); $socket = new IO::Socket::INET ( PeerHost = '192.168.0.20', PeerPort = '5086', Proto = 'tcp', ) or die ERROR in Socket Creation : $!\n; $socket-send(a\n); $socket-recv($data, 128); print Data 1: $data\n; $socket-send(111000\n); $socket-recv($data, 128); It seems that the device gets the first line but not the second line. Does anyone have an idea what am I doing wrong? -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: TCP/IP using perl
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Diego Iastrubni elc...@kde.org wrote: On שבת 07 אפריל 2012 16:39:12 Shlomi Fish wrote: Otherwise, does Wireshark tell you anything suspicious? You may also use nc -l | hexdump -C to debug the data on the server. But I assume you already did that. Thank you Diego for your answer. I replaced the server with nc and it works great so it seems the problem is in the server and not the client. That is what I needed to know. I hope tomorrow I will be able to try in on the real server which is a hardware device that I did not write the software and unfortunately don't have the time to fix it (I did not write it's software anyway). -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Preparing to convince to shift to non-propriety documents formats
Another point to notice is that there is no such format as MS word format. Each version has a different format and sometimes one can not open the documents that was sent to him in this format. I have seen many cases where OpenOffice opened files that people who had a version of MS-word could not open. -- Ori Idan 2012/2/5 Boaz Rymland boaz.ryml...@gmail.com Hi all, I'm about to meet my daughter's school principal on the subject of the formats of documents the school spreads around routinely, like the weekly schedule. In short - they are using .DOC MS Word format and I don't like it as I cannot cleanly open those documents on my computer (which runs Ubuntu). Although I'm quite old in the Linux world and probably heard over the years most of them - still I prefer having a refreshment of all the arguments in favor of moving to more open or at least affordable (e.g. PDF) document formats. Any pointers/text will be appreciated. Thanks, Boaz. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Refund on preinstall Windows license in Israel [slightly OT]
I wrote about it in 2008: http://blog.oriidan.info/tag/%D7%AA%D7%A7%D7%93%D7%99%D7%9D-%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%A4%D7%98%D7%99/ Sorry for top posting, I send it from a mobile... -- Ori Idan On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Shlomi Fish shlo...@shlomifish.org wrote: On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 17:42:24 +0200 Michael Vasiliev mycr...@infoscav.net wrote: On 12/21/2011 03:26 PM, Elazar Leibovich wrote: Have anyone tried to get a refund on a Windows license on a preinstall machine he bought? Is it possible in Israel? How much money will they refund? How complicated is it? Zvi Devir has done it and ran a Haifux lecture. I believe the slides and walk-through are still available. You can find them here: http://www.haifux.org/lectures/204/ I can give you his email for further guidance if you E-mail me in private. Regards, Shlomi Fish (whose laptop came with Windows 7 pre-installed, and he kept it there because he believed it may prove of utility.). -- MV ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Understand what Open Source is - http://shlom.in/oss-fs When Chuck Norris uses git, he takes a coffee break after initiating every git commit. And then he waits for the commit to finish. Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply . ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Scheduling a Meeting in a Cafe or Restaurant
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.namewrote: On Thursday, November 03, 2011 6:16 PM, Shlomi Fish shlo...@shlomifish.org wrote: I don't see why a real-life meeting of people who share similar interests should be disallowed. That's the first time you even hinted at what the meeting would be about. You might want to clarify what it would be about and why it can't be held over phone or instant messaging or smoke signals. Why are you picking him. I understood from the first place that this is Shlomi's intention and thus don't see why people accused him of confusing jdate.co.il with linux-il. Also why talking about smoke signals etc. when I think everyone understand there are some advantages to face to face meetings. -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: FSF Campaign against Microsoft's Plan to Enforce Secure Boot
Unfortunately this is not FUD at all, it was reported by a Red-Hat employee and was not denied by Microsoft. See: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/21/secure_boot_firmware_linux_exclusion_fears/ -- Ori Idan On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 1:06 PM, geoffrey mendelson geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 23, 2011, at 12:28 PM, Shlomi Fish wrote: The Free Software Foundation started a campaign called “Stand up for your freedom to install free software!” about Microsoft's plan to enforce “Secure Boot” in the installations of Windows 8, which will prevent people from being able to boot into GNU/Linux, one of the BSD variants, or other operating systems. You can sign it here: http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/**secure-boot-vs-restricted-**boot/statementhttp://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot/statement It's pure FUD. we are concerned that Microsoft and hardware manufacturers will implement these boot restrictions in a way that will prevent users from booting anything other than Windows. Not that they are, or saying they will, or even hinted they will. The FSF is struggling to regain some semblance of public support after RMS's disastrous FSF boycott of Israel and his comments about Steve Jobs. Do the world a favor and let the FSF die with dignity, instead of being remembered as a bunch of racist FUDslinging lunatics. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM My high blood pressure medicine reduces my midichlorian count. :-( __**_ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/**mailman/listinfo/linux-ilhttp://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Test.
It seems that you can since this is the second mail I see from you. On Jul 22, 2011 9:12 PM, Shlomi Fish shlo...@gmail.com wrote: This is a test message, since I was unable to send E-mail to Linux-IL from home. Regards, -- Shlomi Fish -- -- Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Electrical Engineering studies. In the Technion. Been there. Done that. Forgot a lot. Remember too much. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: MS buys Skype - will it support Linux
3. regulation - if MS go after the Linux version, they will probably face regulatory investigations all around the world. As rich as MS is, a billion or two in fines in several countries, may change the purchase to a disaster (think of the stockholders! why nobody think of the stockholders?!? What problems do you see regarding regulations? -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [ Completely OT] Advice on Value Assessment
For stamp collection you can contact: http://www.bait-tov.com -- Ori Idan 2011/4/15 Amichai Rotman amic...@iglu.org.il Hello, I turn to you because I value your input and advice... I have a book collection and a stamp collection, and I'd like to get an assessment of their value. I just don't know who to turn to and who to trust. Can any one on this list recommend someone (preferably in Haifa)? Thanks! Amichai ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Android phones
2011/2/23 Elazar Leibovich elaz...@gmail.com On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:53 PM, David Suna da...@davidsconsultants.comwrote: 2. The Galaxy phone has a significantly lower SAR rating than the others. The information I have found online has been rather unclear whether this is something significant that would recommend this phone over the others. Can anyone point me to reliable definitive information about this? HaMachon LeMechkar Garini of Israel published a survey about mobile phone radiation effects on the human body. Apparently this is a very well studied topic, since years ago people where exposed to much higher sources of radiation, for example, telegraph operators. The bottom line if I read it correctly is, that there has been extensive research on this topic, and no health issues were found. With the exception of small children, for which there haven't been enough research to give an solid opinion. In a personal note, I've no idea if it's Placebo (it happened to me ever since I started using mobile phone, before I learned anything about the health problems), or is it because of some other effect. But I'm feeling an headache each and every time I'm speaking on a mobile phone for more than a few moments. It is perfectly reproducible, and never happens to me with home phones, or ear phones, or when pressing a small TRANSISTOR near my ear. You can send them a request and they'll mail it (as in snail mail) to you. If I'll try to find it and I'll send it to you, please contact me privately if you're interested. As much as I understand, When they say there are no health effects, they mean, no long term effects. Headache during conversation is a known problem with cellular phones, the question is does it means that you will suffer long term effects like continuous headache or even worth, some kind of cancer. -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Remote control on Linux machine
Is there any solution (preferably free as in free speech) for remote control on Linux machine, similar to logmein for Windows? Something that can work if the machine is behind NAT. -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Sending hebrew mails from PHP to Outlook
I am sending HTML mail in Hebrew from a server running Ubuntu 10.4 and PHP 5.3.2 When sending the mail as UTF-8 with the header set to Content-type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 the mails are read as gibrish. When converting to windows-1255 (and changing the Content-type header) the hebrew received Ok but it is received as plain text (seeing HTML tags) Does anyone have any idea how to solve it? (preferably without changing setup in outlook) Everything works fine when sending to gmail. -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Sending hebrew mails from PHP to Outlook
When sending with charset=windows-1255 it works. The problem was that the headers where terminated with \r\n instead of \n only. As for the UTF-8 problem, I am not going to solve it now. Windows-1255 is enough for the customer. Again spending hours of work because of Microsoft bugs. -- Ori Idan On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 3:48 PM, David Ronkin dron...@gmail.com wrote: Try to use charset=iso-8859-8 instead (it's more correct for hebrew i think). David 2011/1/17 shimi linux...@shimi.net 2011/1/17 Ori Idan o...@helicontech.co.il I am sending HTML mail in Hebrew from a server running Ubuntu 10.4 and PHP 5.3.2 When sending the mail as UTF-8 with the header set to Content-type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 the mails are read as gibrish. When converting to windows-1255 (and changing the Content-type header) the hebrew received Ok but it is received as plain text (seeing HTML tags) Does anyone have any idea how to solve it? (preferably without changing setup in outlook) Everything works fine when sending to gmail. In the HTML (between head and /head), try having also a: meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=utf-8 / tag. If that didn't help... try sending the message as a multipart MIME message, one part with text (text/plain) (strip_tags() to kill the HTML), and the other as proper HTML. I think It should do the trick... Of course, verify that what you're sending, is, indeed, utf-8. i.e. if it's hard coded in some file, that this file is saved encoded as utf-8. HTH, -- Shimi ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- בברכה, דוד רונקין ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Bezeq's Dropbox imitation
DropBox has client and a daemon. The client is open source but as much as I know the daemon is not. -- Ori Idan On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Shachar Shemesh shac...@shemesh.bizwrote: On 19/12/10 11:15, Justin wrote: Ubuntu has their own dropbox clone. If I'm going to support a company... I'd rather it's Canonical than Bezeq. ֹI'll just mention that the DropBox client for Linux is open source (as opposed to their client for Windows and Mac). Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting Ltd. http://www.lingnu.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Bezeq's Dropbox imitation
I think you can achieve the same functionality using rsync and cron, however what they offer is a daemon that looks for changes in a specific directory and synchronizes the directory to the remote server. I think they also offer the possibility of sharing a subdirectory (under that dropbox directory) with anyone else that has a dropbox account. I have used dropbox in the past, I am now using a similar service from Canonical named Ubuntu one that comes default with Ubuntu desktop. -- Ori Idan On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/12/19 Ori Idan o...@helicontech.co.il: DropBox has client and a daemon. The client is open source but as much as I know the daemon is not. Maybe this should be a new thread, but what does DropBox offer that a remote SSH account, Rsync and Cron don't? No troll, I'd really like to know. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Mail forwarding using postfix
Hello, I have a new postfix server running on a virtual host. I would like to forward mails sent to domains on this machine to other addresses. for example, if domain example.com resolves to my machine, I would like to forwared mail sent to o...@example.com to o...@helicontech.com I wrote in /etc/postfix/virtual: o...@example.com o...@helicontech.co.il I also wrote in /etc/postfix/transport example.com helicontech.co.il I restarted postfix, sent a test (from different address, not from o...@helicontech.co.il) I then looked at /var/log/mail.log I have seen connect message from google.com (I sent the mail using gmail) I then saw a message like to=o...@helicontech.co.il with status=sent However the mail never reached the destination. What have I done wrong? -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Mail forwarding using postfix [solved]
I thought I tried it but decided to try again. in main.cf I wrote: virtual_alias_domains = /etc/postfix/valiastable I created a simple text file with one line containing the domain I would like to receive mail to. I then reloaded postfix (sudo postfix reload) and tested it again. I worked. I added another domain in this text file and added another address in /etc/postfix/virtual and it worked to. -- Ori Idan On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Shimon Weinreich shi...@openu.ac.ilwrote: I’ll check. -- בברכה שמעון ויינרייך האוניברסיטה הפתוחה *From:* Ori Idan [mailto:o...@helicontech.co.il] *Sent:* Thursday, December 02, 2010 12:13 PM *To:* Shimon Weinreich *Subject:* Re: Mail forwarding using postfix It seems to be working if I specify the doman directly in virtual_alias_domains in main.cf How do I tell it to take the domains from a file and not from the line itself? -- Ori Idan On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Shimon Weinreich shi...@openu.ac.il wrote: Please send me /var/log/maillog -- בברכה שמעון ויינרייך האוניברסיטה הפתוחה *From:* Ori Idan [mailto:o...@helicontech.co.il] *Sent:* Thursday, December 02, 2010 11:46 AM *To:* Shimon Weinreich *Subject:* Re: Mail forwarding using postfix Yes I did 2010/12/2 Shimon Weinreich shi...@openu.ac.il Hi, Did you type postmap virtual postmap transport ? -- בברכה שמעון ויינרייך האוניברסיטה הפתוחה *From:* linux-il-boun...@cs.huji.ac.il [mailto: linux-il-boun...@cs.huji.ac.il] *On Behalf Of *Ori Idan *Sent:* Thursday, December 02, 2010 11:35 AM *To:* IGLU Mailing list *Subject:* Mail forwarding using postfix Hello, I have a new postfix server running on a virtual host. I would like to forward mails sent to domains on this machine to other addresses. for example, if domain example.com resolves to my machine, I would like to forwared mail sent to o...@example.com to o...@helicontech.com I wrote in /etc/postfix/virtual: o...@example.com o...@helicontech.co.il I also wrote in /etc/postfix/transport example.com helicontech.co.il I restarted postfix, sent a test (from different address, not from o...@helicontech.co.il) I then looked at /var/log/mail.log I have seen connect message from google.com (I sent the mail using gmail) I then saw a message like to=o...@helicontech.co.il with status=sent However the mail never reached the destination. What have I done wrong? -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
[OT] Running webinar
This is not exactly on topic but I guess people on this list might have some ideas. My customer would like to orgenize a webinar on a web application I wrote for him. Does anyone know how to do it? preferably something that can be done with Linux. -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Using ComSign smart card
VAT authorities will soon ask all reports to be signed using comsign digital signature and identification should be done using their smartcard. How can this smartcard be used under Linux? -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Using ComSign smart card
Currently only 4 millions annually but from next year all companies and from 2011 everyone including small businesses. So we have to be ready for this. -- Ori Idan 2010/11/14 Hetz Ben Hamo het...@gmail.com As much as I heard, for now it's only companies who make 4 millions annually. Hetz 2010/11/14 Ori Idan o...@helicontech.co.il VAT authorities will soon ask all reports to be signed using comsign digital signature and identification should be done using their smartcard. How can this smartcard be used under Linux? -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- *חץ בן חמו חץ-ביז (הוסטינג) *השכרה ואירוח של שרתים פיזיים השכרת שרתים וירטואליים מקצועיים וגדולים במחירים *קטנים* בקרו באתרנו בכתובת hetz.biz http://www.hetz.biz/ ובבלוג שלנו: blog.hetz.biz טלפוןן: 078113/4/5, אימייל: sa...@hetz.biz מסנג'ר: sa...@hetz.biz - סקייפ: heunique ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Using ComSign smart card
Yes I did and did not get any answer yet. -- Ori Idan On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/11/14 Ori Idan o...@helicontech.co.il: Currently only 4 millions annually but from next year all companies and from 2011 everyone including small businesses. So we have to be ready for this. Have you directed the question to the VAT authorities? -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Using ComSign smart card
I talked with Comsign they refered me to TEHILA. I wrote Email to TEHILA but did not get any answer yet. From searching google it seems that the companies who manufacture the smartcard reader have drivers to Linux, it seems however that these are proprietary drivers. I think that many of us have to be worried about this, I guess many people here are freelancers or have small companies. Currently it seems we got a delay, they wanted that from 1-1-2011 everyone will start reporting using the new system and now they said that only businesses earning more then 1.6 million NIS per year will be obligated. They still say that from 1--1-2012 Every one will have to report this way. Look at: http://ozar.mof.gov.il/taxes/heshbonotMekuvan.htm (hebrew) -- Ori Idan On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Ariel Biener ar...@post.tau.ac.il wrote: On 11/14/2010 11:46 AM, Ori Idan wrote: Currently only 4 millions annually but from next year all companies and from 2011 everyone including small businesses. So we have to be ready for this. Call Comsign (the Certificates arm of Comda). They are most helpful with regards to their CA operation. -- Ariel -- Ariel Biener e-mail: ar...@post.tau.ac.il PGP: http://www.tau.ac.il/~ariel/pgp.html ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Using ComSign smart card
No, I do not think the people from Tehila will help me. I did this only to let them know that people use other operating systems. I hope that other people will do that too. I did search the net and found that they use card readers by some know manufacturers see for example: http://www.scmmicro.com/security/view_product_en.php?PID=4 -- Ori Idan On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Hetz Ben Hamo het...@gmail.com wrote: Ori, You really think the people from Tehila will help you? They know well how to manage servers, but Linux support for smart cards? ha! How much does it cost to register/buy the card etc? I'll register, get the stuff and see if I can assist. Since I'm not an expert in smart cards, and assuming I'll find a way to use some drivers with the card, which apps should I test to mark the thing as passed or not? This will be fun :) Hetz 2010/11/14 Ori Idan o...@helicontech.co.il I talked with Comsign they refered me to TEHILA. I wrote Email to TEHILA but did not get any answer yet. From searching google it seems that the companies who manufacture the smartcard reader have drivers to Linux, it seems however that these are proprietary drivers. I think that many of us have to be worried about this, I guess many people here are freelancers or have small companies. Currently it seems we got a delay, they wanted that from 1-1-2011 everyone will start reporting using the new system and now they said that only businesses earning more then 1.6 million NIS per year will be obligated. They still say that from 1--1-2012 Every one will have to report this way. Look at: http://ozar.mof.gov.il/taxes/heshbonotMekuvan.htm (hebrew) -- Ori Idan On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Ariel Biener ar...@post.tau.ac.ilwrote: On 11/14/2010 11:46 AM, Ori Idan wrote: Currently only 4 millions annually but from next year all companies and from 2011 everyone including small businesses. So we have to be ready for this. Call Comsign (the Certificates arm of Comda). They are most helpful with regards to their CA operation. -- Ariel -- Ariel Biener e-mail: ar...@post.tau.ac.il PGP: http://www.tau.ac.il/~ariel/pgp.html -- *חץ בן חמו חץ-ביז (הוסטינג) *השכרה ואירוח של שרתים פיזיים השכרת שרתים וירטואליים מקצועיים וגדולים במחירים *קטנים* בקרו באתרנו בכתובת hetz.biz http://www.hetz.biz/ ובבלוג שלנו: blog.hetz.biz טלפוןן: 078113/4/5, אימייל: sa...@hetz.biz מסנג'ר: sa...@hetz.biz - סקייפ: heunique ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Using ComSign smart card
Which means the drivers are free? Good to know that Fedora already has the drivers, which means that it might be very easy to use it, even easier then in windows :-) -- Ori Idan On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Hetz Ben Hamo het...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the link, this card reader uses the pc/sc interface which drivers, daemon etc are already inside standard linux distributions, my Fedora 13 has it already. I'll call comsign tommorow. Hetz 2010/11/14 Ori Idan o...@helicontech.co.il No, I do not think the people from Tehila will help me. I did this only to let them know that people use other operating systems. I hope that other people will do that too. I did search the net and found that they use card readers by some know manufacturers see for example: http://www.scmmicro.com/security/view_product_en.php?PID=4 -- Ori Idan On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Hetz Ben Hamo het...@gmail.com wrote: Ori, You really think the people from Tehila will help you? They know well how to manage servers, but Linux support for smart cards? ha! How much does it cost to register/buy the card etc? I'll register, get the stuff and see if I can assist. Since I'm not an expert in smart cards, and assuming I'll find a way to use some drivers with the card, which apps should I test to mark the thing as passed or not? This will be fun :) Hetz 2010/11/14 Ori Idan o...@helicontech.co.il I talked with Comsign they refered me to TEHILA. I wrote Email to TEHILA but did not get any answer yet. From searching google it seems that the companies who manufacture the smartcard reader have drivers to Linux, it seems however that these are proprietary drivers. I think that many of us have to be worried about this, I guess many people here are freelancers or have small companies. Currently it seems we got a delay, they wanted that from 1-1-2011 everyone will start reporting using the new system and now they said that only businesses earning more then 1.6 million NIS per year will be obligated. They still say that from 1--1-2012 Every one will have to report this way. Look at: http://ozar.mof.gov.il/taxes/heshbonotMekuvan.htm (hebrew) -- Ori Idan On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Ariel Biener ar...@post.tau.ac.ilwrote: On 11/14/2010 11:46 AM, Ori Idan wrote: Currently only 4 millions annually but from next year all companies and from 2011 everyone including small businesses. So we have to be ready for this. Call Comsign (the Certificates arm of Comda). They are most helpful with regards to their CA operation. -- Ariel -- Ariel Biener e-mail: ar...@post.tau.ac.il PGP: http://www.tau.ac.il/~ariel/pgp.html -- *חץ בן חמו חץ-ביז (הוסטינג) *השכרה ואירוח של שרתים פיזיים השכרת שרתים וירטואליים מקצועיים וגדולים במחירים *קטנים* בקרו באתרנו בכתובת hetz.biz http://www.hetz.biz/ ובבלוג שלנו: blog.hetz.biz טלפוןן: 078113/4/5, אימייל: sa...@hetz.biz מסנג'ר: sa...@hetz.biz - סקייפ: heunique -- *חץ בן חמו חץ-ביז (הוסטינג) *השכרה ואירוח של שרתים פיזיים השכרת שרתים וירטואליים מקצועיים וגדולים במחירים *קטנים* בקרו באתרנו בכתובת hetz.biz http://www.hetz.biz/ ובבלוג שלנו: blog.hetz.biz טלפוןן: 078113/4/5, אימייל: sa...@hetz.biz מסנג'ר: sa...@hetz.biz - סקייפ: heunique ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Using ComSign smart card
From the conversation I had today with Comsign representative it seems that it is not Comsign who is responsible for it. It is Tehila which means it is even worse since we know Tehila can not even manage their own servers. Comsign seems to be only the CA the issues the digital signatures. I think this is also a problem that we must use only one CA. -- Ori Idan On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Hetz Ben Hamo het...@gmail.com wrote: The framework is there, daemon is there, I don't know if what Comsign sells is supported or not and how many variants of cards + readers they sell (let me guess: the cheapest ones, and they make tons of money from them). I'll talk to them tomorrow. Hetz 2010/11/14 Ori Idan o...@helicontech.co.il Which means the drivers are free? Good to know that Fedora already has the drivers, which means that it might be very easy to use it, even easier then in windows :-) -- Ori Idan On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Hetz Ben Hamo het...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the link, this card reader uses the pc/sc interface which drivers, daemon etc are already inside standard linux distributions, my Fedora 13 has it already. I'll call comsign tommorow. Hetz 2010/11/14 Ori Idan o...@helicontech.co.il No, I do not think the people from Tehila will help me. I did this only to let them know that people use other operating systems. I hope that other people will do that too. I did search the net and found that they use card readers by some know manufacturers see for example: http://www.scmmicro.com/security/view_product_en.php?PID=4 -- Ori Idan On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Hetz Ben Hamo het...@gmail.comwrote: Ori, You really think the people from Tehila will help you? They know well how to manage servers, but Linux support for smart cards? ha! How much does it cost to register/buy the card etc? I'll register, get the stuff and see if I can assist. Since I'm not an expert in smart cards, and assuming I'll find a way to use some drivers with the card, which apps should I test to mark the thing as passed or not? This will be fun :) Hetz 2010/11/14 Ori Idan o...@helicontech.co.il I talked with Comsign they refered me to TEHILA. I wrote Email to TEHILA but did not get any answer yet. From searching google it seems that the companies who manufacture the smartcard reader have drivers to Linux, it seems however that these are proprietary drivers. I think that many of us have to be worried about this, I guess many people here are freelancers or have small companies. Currently it seems we got a delay, they wanted that from 1-1-2011 everyone will start reporting using the new system and now they said that only businesses earning more then 1.6 million NIS per year will be obligated. They still say that from 1--1-2012 Every one will have to report this way. Look at: http://ozar.mof.gov.il/taxes/heshbonotMekuvan.htm (hebrew) -- Ori Idan On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Ariel Biener ar...@post.tau.ac.ilwrote: On 11/14/2010 11:46 AM, Ori Idan wrote: Currently only 4 millions annually but from next year all companies and from 2011 everyone including small businesses. So we have to be ready for this. Call Comsign (the Certificates arm of Comda). They are most helpful with regards to their CA operation. -- Ariel -- Ariel Biener e-mail: ar...@post.tau.ac.il PGP: http://www.tau.ac.il/~ariel/pgp.html -- *חץ בן חמו חץ-ביז (הוסטינג) *השכרה ואירוח של שרתים פיזיים השכרת שרתים וירטואליים מקצועיים וגדולים במחירים *קטנים* בקרו באתרנו בכתובת hetz.biz http://www.hetz.biz/ ובבלוג שלנו: blog.hetz.biz טלפוןן: 078113/4/5, אימייל: sa...@hetz.biz מסנג'ר: sa...@hetz.biz - סקייפ: heunique -- *חץ בן חמו חץ-ביז (הוסטינג) *השכרה ואירוח של שרתים פיזיים השכרת שרתים וירטואליים מקצועיים וגדולים במחירים *קטנים* בקרו באתרנו בכתובת hetz.biz http://www.hetz.biz/ ובבלוג שלנו: blog.hetz.biz טלפוןן: 078113/4/5, אימייל: sa...@hetz.biz מסנג'ר: sa...@hetz.biz - סקייפ: heunique -- *חץ בן חמו חץ-ביז (הוסטינג) *השכרה ואירוח של שרתים פיזיים השכרת שרתים וירטואליים מקצועיים וגדולים במחירים *קטנים* בקרו באתרנו בכתובת hetz.biz http://www.hetz.biz/ ובבלוג שלנו: blog.hetz.biz טלפוןן: 078113/4/5, אימייל: sa...@hetz.biz מסנג'ר: sa...@hetz.biz - סקייפ: heunique ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Using ComSign smart card
From looking at Tehila web site it seems they do support Mac OS/X but do not support linux (yet, they say). However from looking into some of the card readers they offer, it seems that most card readers have Linux drivers. For example: http://www.athena-scs.com/product.asp?pid=1 http://www.athena-scs.com/product.asp?pid=1More drivers can be found at: http://www.linuxnet.com/sourcedrivers.html http://www.linuxnet.com/sourcedrivers.htmlSo it seems there is no problem using the card readers under Linux. I hope there aren't any other problems such as Explorer only websites etc. We have about a year to solve these problems as all of us who report VAT will need to report their VAT report using these methods from 1-1-2012 -- Ori Idan On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 10:29 PM, Amos Shapira amos.shap...@gmail.comwrote: How is the market share of Apple in Israel these days? Their distrobutors should be interested in this issue as well. On 15/11/2010 7:14 AM, Ori Idan o...@helicontech.co.il wrote: No, I do not think the people from Tehila will help me. I did this only to let them know that people use other operating systems. I hope that other people will do that too. I did search the net and found that they use card readers by some know manufacturers see for example: http://www.scmmicro.com/security/view_product_en.php?PID=4 -- Ori Idan On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Hetz Ben Hamo het...@gmail.com wrote: Ori, You really... ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Using ComSign smart card
Thank you Hetz. From what you wrote and what I looked it really seems we should not have any problems with the hardware. Tehila says something regarding using Firefox in this document: http://www.gov.il/NR/rdonlyres/864BC531-DA34-4007-8EA9-39FAEA9607CE/0/Firefox.doc From reading this document it seems we can use it under Linux although they say Linux not yet supported. Can someone read it and maybe point out some other problems I have overlooked? -- Ori Idan On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Hetz Ben Hamo het...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, finished! (at least in terms of hardware research) The Tehila project suggest 5 card readers which are supported by them (well, someone will support, maybe, Tehila doesn't know how to support people), you can see the list here: http://www.gov.il/FirstGov/smartCard/business/businessStart/ http://www.gov.il/FirstGov/smartCard/business/businessStart/I won't look at the serial and PCMCIA solutions cause everyone got USB these days, so we're left with 3 cards: 1. Athena ASE llle USB - this card is fully supported under Linux. You can download it's driver (fully open source), run configure, make, make install and thats it. I think it's already included on some recent distribution, but even if it's not, it takes 1 minute to compile install. 2. SCM SCR3310 - This card uses a *binary only* library (scmccid) which it has some hard-coded library path inside it (some developers should be shot!). Avoid this card if you prefer not to mess with binary only stuff. Please note: it's not binary only kernel driver, only user level shared library. 3. GemPlus GemPC Twin - This one is the nicest. You don't need any special drivers. If you're distribution is pretty modern, it should have the driver for it inside the kernel and it would be auto recognize it when you connect it to your machine. Amos - I assume that OS X has PC/SC support inside, so you should have out of the box support on your Mac on 1 and 3. Funny thing: Number 2 driver got this on it's Info.plist file: !DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC -//Apple Computer//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd; Thats - for the kernel stuff. User level stuff - that I need to research a bit... Thanks, Hetz 2010/11/14 Amos Shapira amos.shap...@gmail.com How is the market share of Apple in Israel these days? Their distrobutors should be interested in this issue as well. On 15/11/2010 7:14 AM, Ori Idan o...@helicontech.co.il wrote: No, I do not think the people from Tehila will help me. I did this only to let them know that people use other operating systems. I hope that other people will do that too. I did search the net and found that they use card readers by some know manufacturers see for example: http://www.scmmicro.com/security/view_product_en.php?PID=4 -- Ori Idan On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Hetz Ben Hamo het...@gmail.com wrote: Ori, You really... ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- *חץ בן חמו חץ-ביז (הוסטינג) *השכרה ואירוח של שרתים פיזיים השכרת שרתים וירטואליים מקצועיים וגדולים במחירים *קטנים* בקרו באתרנו בכתובת hetz.biz http://www.hetz.biz/ ובבלוג שלנו: blog.hetz.biz טלפוןן: 078113/4/5, אימייל: sa...@hetz.biz מסנג'ר: sa...@hetz.biz - סקייפ: heunique ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
[OT] Buying a new computer
I would like to buy a new desktop computer. Can someone recommend on what display board and sound board? I don't need heavy graphics, it has to work fine with compiz and be able to play video clips. I do not use it for actually watching movies. Does anyone know of any good computer store in Herzelia or the neighbourhood that preferably knows the answers to my questions or at least will not ask what is Linux or why use Linux... -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Amazon EC2 hosting,
2010/10/10 Tom Rosenfeld trosenf...@gmail.com Hi, I just came across this thread from back in Aug about Amazon's cloud. I'd like to add that I have been a satisfied customer of Amazon for over a year, using their services for both consulting at at my current job where we use it to run our SaaS offering. The capabilities keep improving and the prices keep coming down. Their lowest end server is now just 2 cents an hour! There are some issues with the IO, but it is certainly adequate for all but high performance needs. We use 8 way stripped disks and get about 100 MBp/s sequential reads. If anyone wants more details, I'll be happy to share with you. -tom I am considering using EC2 for a web application. I am not sure how to calculate the payment per month. Do I pay only for the time someone makes a request? For example, I have a user who requests a certain report and it takes 1 second to load the report request form, then 20 seconds to produce the report and print it. I understand that I pay for 21 seconds? So if I have 100 customers doing the same thing each day, I pay for 35 minutes (2100 seconds)? It seems to be very cheap. -- Ori Idan On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Gadi Cohen dra...@wastelands.net wrote: On 12/08/2010 00:00, Maxim Veksler wrote: Are you familiar with EC2 cc1.4xlarge instance type ? http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/instance-types/ Not really... I did have a look around there a while back, but it just seemed overly complicated. I like paying a flat rate and knowing exactly what I get, especially since it's more than enough power for me for the next little while. Also with 16 cores can I quite easily divide my work into nice little VMs (xen-based), which I believe (but am not sure) that I could migrate to the cloud at a later stage. It says bandwidth is free until November... then what? Or more importantly... assuming you are in fact a proud owner of an xlarge instance, please share your use case and experiences with us :) Gadi -- Gadi Cohen aka Kinslayer dra...@wastelands.net www.wastelands.net Freelance admin/coding/design HABONIM DROR linux/fantasy enthusiast KeyID 0x93F26EF5: 256A 1FC7 AA2B 6A8F 1D9B 6A5A 4403 F34B 93F2 6EF5 / / ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Children's Books about Linux?
2010/10/8 Amichai Rotman amic...@iglu.org.il Hi, Any of you aware of the existence of Linux children's books? I mean - those books with simple text and pretty pictures telling the story of Linux for 4-5 year old kids. I'd like to teach my children the values of the community from an early stage. I realize this thread will generate a lot of flaming - so I'll say why I am asking: I'd like to write such a book but I have no idea where to start, not even a story line Any of you want to team up and make it happen? Great idea, a children book about Linux and free software. Well, I am writing books, but I have never written a children book. I hope other people here have more experience then me in children books, I don't have children myself :-) Thanks! .::. Amichai Rotman -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: CPU RAM in a storage box
I think dropbox.com can be used as a backup system to Linux. It has a daemon for Linux, however the daemon itself is propriatry, the GNOME Nautilus extension is not. -- Ori Idan On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Nadav Har'El n...@math.technion.ac.ilwrote: On Mon, Sep 27, 2010, Michael Tewner wrote about Re: CPU RAM in a storage box: Have you seen this? ... At Backblaze, we provide unlimited storage to our customers for only $5 per month, so we had to figure out how to store hundreds of petabytes of ... Looking at their site, it appears that while their systems run on Linux, they don't give service to Linux machines. Is that true? Is there a similar online backup service which does support Linux? I'd love to use such a service for my home Linux computer. Nadav. -- Nadav Har'El| Tuesday, Sep 28 2010, 20 Tishri 5771 n...@math.technion.ac.il |- Phone +972-523-790466, ICQ 13349191 |This box was intentionally left blank. http://nadav.harel.org.il | ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: USB speakers
I don't know about these speakers but I guess the USB is only for power and therefore you don't see any message. Did you check lsusb? -- Ori Idan On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Shlomo Solomon shlomo.solo...@gmail.comwrote: I don't really know if this is a Linux problem, so I apologize if this turns out to be OT. I bought a pair of cheap USB speakers - Muller M128 USB multimedia speakers. There are 2 wires - 1 with a USB connection and 1 with a regular 3.5mm plug. When I plug in the USB connector, the speakers get power, but I see nothing in the logs (tail -f /var/log/messages) and get no sound. When I also connect the 3.5mm to my sound card, the speakers work. Is it possible that the USB plug is only for power, or do I have a Linux problem (missing driver or something)? -- Shlomo Solomon http://the-solomons.net Sent by KMail 1.13.3 (KDE 4.4.3) on LINUX Mandriva 2010.1 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: WINE and Hebrew
and while we are on this topic of Lupa, does anyone knows of a Linux alternative that produces the same format? -- Ori Idan 2010/9/11 Amichai Rotman amic...@iglu.org.il Hey There, I am trying to install a Hebrew Win32 app (Lupa) using Wine - but the Hebrew letters show up as Gibberish... How do I add Hebrew support? .::. Amichai Rotman Registered Linux User#: 201192 [http://counter.li.org/] Registered Ubuntu User #12851 [http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net] .::. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: gcc q
avr-gcc linker, links a file named crts.o before main, this file calls the main function in your program. You need the sources for avr-libc to get the sources for these files. The actual file depends on the target used (determined by the option -mmcu=) These files are written in AVR assembly which I assume you know. -- Ori Idan 2010/8/23 Shachar Shemesh shac...@shemesh.biz Erez D wrote: Okay. I'm going to assume that you are writing code that is meant to run directly on the hardware, no external OS. Also, I'm assuming you have a means to actually load that code into the CPU's address space (nor flash, loader, etc.) correct If those assumptions are true, and you are working with a GNU toolchain (or derivative), then you, most likely, have a linker control file (also known as a linker script). If you are not sure, search for an invocation of the linker phase with the -T or --script options. nope i compile with: avr32-g++ -O0 -g3 -Wall -c -fmessage-length=0 -mpart=uc3l064 -ffunction-sections -masm-addr-pseudos -oDebug\main.o main.cpp avr32-g++ -O0 -g3 -Wall -c -fmessage-length=0 -mpart=uc3l064 -ffunction-sections -masm-addr-pseudos -oDebug\uart.o uart.cpp avr32-g++ -mpart=uc3l064 -Wl,--gc-sections -Wl,--direct-data --rodata-writable -Wl,-Map,Debug\main.map -oDebug\proj3.elf Debug\main.o Debug\uart.o I saw on the internet that i should modify the crt0.S file to call my initialization function however i can not find the crt0.S file it uses. probably already compiled. s/probably/definitely/ You have two options. The more correct way is to, indeed, change the C RunTime file. The file is probably available in object form, and you can detect which one by checking what is the command line that avr-g++ passes to avr-ld when it calls it. I am almost positive that there is a command line to see that, but I usually find it easier to use 'strace -f -e execve'. Then again, if, for whatever reason, you do not wish to tear apart the internal libraries used, you can also go by my original proposed route. The implicit linker script can be extracted by running avr-ld --verbose. You can copy it out into a file, and modify it from there. Personally, which way I'd go depends on how frequent this change you need to do is. If you are working on a custom hw platform, where you are expected to compile many programs for that platform, and that platform alone, I might prefer getting the sources to crt and making the change there. If you have several AVR platforms using the same toolchain, but only some of them need these registers, then I'd go the linker script path, as they do not require you to change the toolchain's files. Might I ask why you cannot init these hardware registers as the first thing that your actual program does? Does the startup code not run without this init? Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting Ltd.http://www.lingnu.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Exporting CSV file with hebrew
I have tested google docs with the same file translated using iconv to UTF-8 and it works great. I still have a problem with excel, my customer claims he can not see the hebrew in the file. Does someone on this list has access to Excel and can tell me how to tell excel the right encoding so it can import the hebrew? I myself don't have access to Exccel and thus can not test it. I can send a sample file. -- Ori Idan On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Omer Zak w...@zak.co.il wrote: On Sat, 2010-07-31 at 00:20 +0300, Ori Idan wrote: On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 12:17 AM, Omer Zak w...@zak.co.il wrote: My experience is limited to whatever my CPA is using (I think he uses Excel). By experimenting with utf-8, cp862, iso_8859-8 and windows-1255 encodings, we found that windows-1255 worked for him. If you find that Google Docs and Excel have contradictory expectations, then I suggest that you allow people to export the CSV file in either Google Docs compatible encoding or Excel compatible encoding. What is google docs compatible format? By trial, I found that utf-8 is the Google Docs compatible encoding: 1. Create in Google Docs a spreadsheet with Hebrew text. 2. Export it in CSV format to a file in your PC. 3. Open the file in gedit and modify some cells. 4. Import the file into Google Docs and demonstrate that it displays correctly the modified values. 5. By means of xxd -g 1 (or other means), confirm that the file is in utf-8 encoding. By the way, I expect Excel to be configurable to accept also other encodings - but you'll have to find how to do it, and to write clear instructions for the users. --- Omer -- Bottom posters are filthy heretics and infidels and ought to be burned on the stake after having been tarred, feathered and having rotten eggs thrown at their faces! My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Exporting CSV file with hebrew
I will ask him to do it, however my guess is that he was not aware of the encoding and tried to use the default encoding which was probably windows-1251 (Latin-1) and thus got the gibrish. In open office it also happened. Open office recognized UTF-8 by itself but could not recognize windwos-1255 and gave by default windows-1251. -- Ori Idan On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Omer Zak w...@zak.co.il wrote: Hello Ori, I suggest that you ask your client for a screenshot of the Excel window displaying the sample imported *.csv file. How can this benefit: 1. Clear up any miscommunication - maybe the client is viewing a view not containing the cells having the Hebrew text; or another equally ridiculous misunderstanding. 2. From the gibberish which the client does see (and captured by the screenshot) you can guess which encoding did his Excel use to import the file. --- Omer On Sat, 2010-07-31 at 23:04 +0300, Ori Idan wrote: I have tested google docs with the same file translated using iconv to UTF-8 and it works great. I still have a problem with excel, my customer claims he can not see the hebrew in the file. Does someone on this list has access to Excel and can tell me how to tell excel the right encoding so it can import the hebrew? I myself don't have access to Exccel and thus can not test it. I can send a sample file. -- Ori Idan On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Omer Zak w...@zak.co.il wrote: On Sat, 2010-07-31 at 00:20 +0300, Ori Idan wrote: On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 12:17 AM, Omer Zak w...@zak.co.il wrote: My experience is limited to whatever my CPA is using (I think he uses Excel). By experimenting with utf-8, cp862, iso_8859-8 and windows-1255 encodings, we found that windows-1255 worked for him. If you find that Google Docs and Excel have contradictory expectations, then I suggest that you allow people to export the CSV file in either Google Docs compatible encoding or Excel compatible encoding. What is google docs compatible format? By trial, I found that utf-8 is the Google Docs compatible encoding: 1. Create in Google Docs a spreadsheet with Hebrew text. 2. Export it in CSV format to a file in your PC. 3. Open the file in gedit and modify some cells. 4. Import the file into Google Docs and demonstrate that it displays correctly the modified values. 5. By means of xxd -g 1 (or other means), confirm that the file is in utf-8 encoding. By the way, I expect Excel to be configurable to accept also other encodings - but you'll have to find how to do it, and to write clear instructions for the users. -- Every good master plan involves building a time machine. Moshe Zadka My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Exporting CSV file with hebrew
I am trying to export a file in CSV format that some of it's columns are hebrew. I would like people to be able to import it to excel, open-office and google docs. In open-office I had no problem importing the file in any encoding I used, however I could not import it to google docs. Other people with excel reported they can not see the hebrew also. Does someone have any idea how to export the file so that the hebrew will be readable? -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Exporting CSV file with hebrew
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 12:17 AM, Omer Zak w...@zak.co.il wrote: My experience is limited to whatever my CPA is using (I think he uses Excel). By experimenting with utf-8, cp862, iso_8859-8 and windows-1255 encodings, we found that windows-1255 worked for him. If you find that Google Docs and Excel have contradictory expectations, then I suggest that you allow people to export the CSV file in either Google Docs compatible encoding or Excel compatible encoding. What is google docs compatible format? -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: TAU lectures, BG Airport departures/arrivals, Kupat Holim lab results -- Linux
These are 3 different organizations and all of them I think is not subject to the state comptroller. TAU lectures is one problem that I have no idea how to solve. BG Airport departures is the only thing that might be of interest to the state comptroller. When we approach him, we should talk about standards and accessibility and not about Linux. Kupat Holim, as much as I heard lately works fine with FireFox. I myself tested Macabi web site, Omer Zak if I am not mistaken reported lately that Clalit also works fine. I don't know about the other health organizations in Israel. -- Ori Idan On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Stan Goodman stan.good...@hashkedim.comwrote: There was some discussion here not long ago about the tendency of Israeli website owners to ignore issues of access by users of non-Microsoft browsers, and there seemed then to be a feeling that something ought to be done about it. That feeling seems to have dissipated, although the problem remains (and promises to get worse). To challenge the indifference of web designers to the problem seems a lost cause, as many of them have learned (I use the term loosely) to code in inexpensive Microsoft-sponsored courses which exist largely for the purpose of indoctrinating their students in the belief that MS enhancements are the best or only way to code web pages; they are not knowledgeable enough to understand arguments to the contrary. Owners of websites are also not a productive target for persuasion, e.g. because they feel that if they are reaching 90% of their clients, they have done as well as they ever can do, which really is not an illogical business decision. On the other hand, all the organizations listed in the Subject line above are quasi-governmental agencies, and therefore have a responsibility to serve any member of the public who is equipped with standard apparatus, without regard to specific proprietary gear. They are all subject to the oversight of the State Comptroller, and I submit that the State Comptroller is the office that should be approached with the complaint and argument that these agencies are delinquent in their responsibility, given that e.g. Firefox is compliant with standards, whereas Internet Explorer (although universally favored by the ignoramuses who code the websites in question) is not. If this makes sense to others, and if there is still interest in rectifying this long-time problem, I propose that a proper complaint be lodged with the Comptroller, who is bound to respond within a length of time set by law (I think it is three months). I think that this letter should be be drafted by a committee representing IGLU and signed by the largest possible number of members. The problem is not going to go away by itself. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: linux beivrit
So you decided to write in docx format and you expect people to review your work? I did not even looked at it because of the format. If you write it in OpenOffice even if it does not look the best, people may help you. The issue of how it looks can be fixed later. You may even work with simple text file to begin and later on transfer it to a good word processor to do the formatting. -- Ori Idan On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Raz razi...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Nadav When i started i tried to work with open office in Hebrew, but i simply spent too much time trying to fix things, indentation, merging pictures and so on. also, how can ask for people to send me their comments ? I did not see track changes. On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Nadav Har'El n...@math.technion.ac.il wrote: On Mon, Jul 05, 2010, Raz wrote about Re: linux beivrit: Open office would have been a much better choice (or lyx, or latex or a few others) I tried open format. does not look good at all. Hi, A lot of things can be said against Open Office (although I personally disagree with most of them), but I don't see how you can say its output (I assume you don't mean its UI) doesn't look good. What didn't you like? The fonts? The default style or layout? Or what? In my experience, you can create beautiful documents in Open Office, and it's not harder to do so than with with Microsoft Office, so I wonder whater problems you are referring to. Anyway, it's probably too late now for this document (converting formats is a harder issue), but it's something to think about for your next document :-) -- Nadav Har'El| Monday, Jul 5 2010, 23 Tammuz 5770 n...@math.technion.ac.il |- Phone +972-523-790466, ICQ 13349191 |Boat: A hole in the water surrounded by http://nadav.harel.org.il |wood into which one pours money. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: linux beivrit
Thank you very much for converting it to an open format. I have read the first part and find it written very easy to read, I liked it and will continue to read the rest. However in the first paragraph you said that someone coming from Windows will have the filling of going back in time, I don't understand why? Any time I see a Windows machine, I have a filling of going back in time, the graphical user interface of all popular distributions today is much more advanced then Windows so I do not understand why this is going back in time? As for CLI, I think it should be rephrased (I will think how later) to show that this is a very advanced interface and people should not be afraid of it. -- Ori Idan On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Raz razi...@gmail.com wrote: anyone interested odt format are uploaded to site. odt ,pdf and doc. On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Elazar Leibovich elaz...@gmail.com wrote: And I totally forgot. It's kind of funny, but in the last OS course of the Open University (which is of course taught using Linux), the student were forced to use .doc format for their theoretical answers! On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Elazar Leibovich elaz...@gmail.com wrote: In fact I'm having difficulties to find reviewers for my .odt files! I'm not aware of any public service provider nor university in Israel which accepts open document format in principle. But I'll be glad to be proven wrong. (It might be that a specific grader at your university accepts documents at .odt format, but in general the university does not support this format, as opposed to .doc format which is officially supported). But OpenOffice is capable of saving documents in the propriety .doc format, which is the de facto standard in Israel. And you can have your work reviewed that way. Another option is to print it to PDF, but it's rather clumsy, because the reviewer cannot edit directly your document. 2010/7/5 Ori Idan o...@helicontech.co.il So you decided to write in docx format and you expect people to review your work? I did not even looked at it because of the format. If you write it in OpenOffice even if it does not look the best, people may help you. The issue of how it looks can be fixed later. You may even work with simple text file to begin and later on transfer it to a good word processor to do the formatting. -- Ori Idan On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Raz razi...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Nadav When i started i tried to work with open office in Hebrew, but i simply spent too much time trying to fix things, indentation, merging pictures and so on. also, how can ask for people to send me their comments ? I did not see track changes. On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Nadav Har'El n...@math.technion.ac.il wrote: On Mon, Jul 05, 2010, Raz wrote about Re: linux beivrit: Open office would have been a much better choice (or lyx, or latex or a few others) I tried open format. does not look good at all. Hi, A lot of things can be said against Open Office (although I personally disagree with most of them), but I don't see how you can say its output (I assume you don't mean its UI) doesn't look good. What didn't you like? The fonts? The default style or layout? Or what? In my experience, you can create beautiful documents in Open Office, and it's not harder to do so than with with Microsoft Office, so I wonder whater problems you are referring to. Anyway, it's probably too late now for this document (converting formats is a harder issue), but it's something to think about for your next document :-) -- Nadav Har'El| Monday, Jul 5 2010, 23 Tammuz 5770 n...@math.technion.ac.il |- Phone +972-523-790466, ICQ 13349191 |Boat: A hole in the water surrounded by http://nadav.harel.org.il |wood into which one pours money. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Using Sato label printers under Linux
Does anyone have any experience with using Sato label printers (specifically CL412) under Linux? -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
cat command with timeout
I have to read lines from serial port, I thought to read them using 'cat' however, since the other unit connected to the serial port, might malfunction and not send anything, I need a timeout to stop reading after few seconds. Does someone know of an alternative to cat with timeout? -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: How do you calculate?
I mostly use grpn which emulates a RPN calculator, I am used to the RPN system from old HP calculators. -- Ori Idan On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Baruch Siach bar...@tkos.co.il wrote: On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 02:55:23PM +0300, Nadav Har'El wrote: For years, I've been wondering: How do other Unix or Linux users do simple calculations? [snip] So I was wondering - how come there isn't more pressure on the Linux distributions to include a decent and convenient calculator language? Or do people consider what is available decent enough already? How about apcalc (http://www.isthe.com/chongo/tech/comp/calc/)? $ calc C-style arbitrary precision calculator (version 2.12.3.3) Calc is open software. For license details type: help copyright [Type exit to exit, or help for help.] ; 2/3 ~0.6667 ; baruch -- ~. .~ Tk Open Systems =}ooO--U--Ooo{= - bar...@tkos.co.il - tel: +972.2.679.5364, http://www.tkos.co.il - ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Common problems with Ubuntu
2010/5/12 Elazar Leibovich elaz...@gmail.com I think you have to make a distinction between older MS software (such as XP) and newer ones (such as 7). For example you defenitely don't run as administrator in Windows 7, and you've got a built-in sudo like system. I, like some people who replied, had bad experience managing Windows machines, and it was usually viruses. However in recent versions I noticed that even at the hands of the inexperienced users, and without any virus scanner, the system stays relatively clean. The point about Windows complexity and background compatability is true and taken. It is against security, and maybe it tips the balance against MS and Windows related products security-wise. The other remark which I highly disagree is that there's no need to convince me. I'm discussing here in order to be convinced, and I'm usually glad when someone enlightens me. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Micha Feigin mi...@post.tau.ac.ilwrote: On Tue, 11 May 2010 04:08:39 -0700 Elazar Leibovich elaz...@gmail.com wrote: I do not understand how a discussion about Ubuntu as a development station became into discussion about windows security and management. -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Fwd: Ben Gurion - arrivals in Firefox
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 12:12 AM, Stan Goodman stan.good...@hashkedim.comwrote: If that is not done, we stand an excellent change of finding that the new website again required Internet Explorer, and being fobbed off again (as in the case of the Maccabi website), that the IE requirement is unavoidable because if is the only really secure browser. What about Maccabi website? are you talking about Maccabi health services? last time I had used it (couple of weeks ago) it worked perfectly with firefox without changing the user agent name. -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: a good customers/ticketing solution?
I think Vtiger has such options though I haven't checked it myself. -- Ori Idan 2010/3/5 Hetz Ben Hamo het...@gmail.com Hi, I wrote a short post in my blog about limits with customers (you can read it here: http://benhamo.org/wp/?p=1924) I was wondering if anyone has any recommendation for a good customer managing solution program which has: * Web based * ticketing system (that customer can register/login and submit his problems) * hebrew support (at least in the customer's front end) * open source * if possible, supports shekels, VAT, and can create invoices Any recommendation for such an app? Thanks, Hetz -- my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org Skype: heunique MSN: hetz-b...@benhamo.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Supporting legacy parallel-port dependent HW via USB-to-parallel and virtualization
2010/1/18 Udi Finkelstein linux...@udif.com I have an old universal programmer (i.e. for programming Flash/PLD/Microcontroller chips) that is parallel port based. Since new computers with a parallel port are harder to come by (if at all), I'm looking for a solution that will let me use it with a USB connection. Is there a solution that involves a USB to parallel cable, and a virtualization software that traps HW parallel port accesses and emulate them through the USBparallel interface? The control program for the above programmer only runs under W2000 or DOS, but the virtualization solution can run under Linux. thanks, Udi I don't think such a thing will work since in DOS, those programmers accessed the hardware directly (no device driver) so I am not sure it such a thing can work. I would be happy to hear of a working solution. -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Small victories, but more work to be done
I think this is a great idea. That was something I wanted to do while begin W3C office manager in Israel. Unfortunately nothing of my ideas where done, because of ISOC-IL non cooperation. -- Ori Idan 2010/1/8 Amichai Rotman amic...@iglu.org.il Guys, wouldn't it be nice to have a web site that shows the state of compatibility of each of the Israeli sites to standards and, consequently, FOSS? Here is what should be on that site: 1) Top 5 or 10 Unfriendly sites right at the top of the first page - Companies would kill NOT to be on that list 2) Same as 1, but the opposite - the friendliest sites. 3) A way to report sites - good an bad ones. 4) Compatibility Progress report - so we can all know what needs to be done to force the specific company to make the required changes. 5. A contact list of all relevant departments of the commercial companies and the companies that provide the hosting and design (say we find out a specific web design company is resposable for the incompatibility by choice?) 6) Come up with a reward system, similar to the Eichut Ha Sherut seal. 7) the site should be endorsed and monitored by ISOC and the W3. 8) the site should be in Hebrew, very simple in design but with enough eye candy to be attractive, by today's standards. I wish I knew how to make this happen. I don't mind helping out - gather the information, contacting companies and such... .::. Amichai Rotman UIN#: 6401746 Registered Linux User#: 201192 [http://counter.li.org/] Registered Ubuntu User #12851 [http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net] PLEASE READ: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html .::. On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 08:28, Gilad Ben-Yossef gi...@codefidence.comwrote: Nadav Har'El wrote: On Wed, Aug 27, 2008, Dotan Cohen wrote about Small victories, but more work to be done: Today I got a letter from YNET that they are moving their videos to Flash from WMV to support Firefox and Linux users. Hi, I'm a bit curious - why do you consider changing from WMV to Flash important for Linux or Firefox users? Last time I checked, most Linux distributions could play neither WMV nor Flash movies out of the box, but software to do both is available for free. Software to play WMV is even available as free software (e.g., mplayer)? Or am I missing something? True, but... 1. Adobe has released a full spec for their flash format allowing a complete Free implementation. They also released the scripting engine as open source. 2. Adobe provides a proprietary flash player for Linux. 3. WMV (really the associated codecs, but the affect is the same ) is covered by numerous patents which are activly protected in the most brutal way, whereas the FLV format, as so much that it is patented (I don't know it is but I assume it is) is not, at the moment. Not a case of black and white by a long shot, but I would say flash is brighter then WMV. Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: gi...@codefidence.com Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 Q: How many NSA agents does it take to replace a lightbulb? A: dSva7DrYiY24yeTItKyyogFXD5gRuoRqPNQ9v6WCLLywZPINlu! ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: encoding hebrew text
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Shlomi Fish shlo...@iglu.org.il wrote: On Wednesday 16 Dec 2009 01:09:29 Uri Even-Chen wrote: OK, I found a solution. I opened the file with both notepad and notepad++, then I changed the encoding to windows-1255 in notepad++, then I copied all the contents to notepad and saved in utf-8. It works. I'm attaching the result. Thanks! Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ Just a note, one can use iconv or Perl's http://perldoc.perl.org/Encode.html module or something to convert an entire file from one encoding to the other: iconv -f windows-1255 -t utf-8 1.txt Seems to work here. Regards, Shlomi Fish I am using iconv on linux. I am not sure if iconv exists for windows. -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [TelFOSS] What is Free and Open Source Software? on Sunday, 22-November-2009
I asked Shlomi if he can arrange me a time machine that will take me back in time... :-) Unfortunately he just fixed his typo instead of taking me back in time. :-) -- Ori Idan On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Tomer Cohen to...@gmx.net wrote: I thought this is just another Chuck Norris fact. On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 14:16, Shlomi Fish shlo...@iglu.org.il wrote: On Wednesday 18 Nov 2009 13:22:38 Shlomi Fish wrote: Hi all! The Tel Aviv Linux club will meet this Sunday on 2-November-2009 on 18:00 Sorry, that was a copy-and-paste error. The correct date is 22-November-2009. - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ The Case for File Swapping - http://shlom.in/file-swap Chuck Norris read the entire English Wikipedia in 24 hours. Twice. -- Tomer Cohen http://tomercohen.com Sent from Ramat Gan, Israel ___ Telux mailing list te...@hamakor.org.il http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/telux ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: How to say in Hebrew intermittent?
ֳN95? this is an old device that I don't think it is sold any more. I have it for almost 2 years and very staisfied including the voice recorder which I often use. I am thinking about upgrading this device to N86 now. -- Ori Idan On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe tell us more about the bug and then we could help you better. Nokia N95 that I bought four months ago has an intermittent file save issue with the voice recorder. I record voice many notes as I have a broken thumb and cannot write. Often, the voice notes play fine. But once in a while I try to play a particular voice note, I receive a message that the file is corrupted and cannot play. This is not on every file, only on some files. Tomorrow I send the device to repair for the sixth time. Each time, they repair it, test one note, then return it to me telling me that it is fine. I try to explain that it is an intermittent problem, testing one note is not sufficient. They argue with me that the bug is fixed and a week later I have corrupted files. This has been going on for four months. I pay 70₪ monthly for a device that I cannot use. When I bought the device I specified that the only feature important to me is the voice recorder, and they recommended N95. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: jffs2 q
The exact size depends on the actual device being used. Look at the device data sheet to see what is it's block size. -- Ori Idan 2009/10/13 Gilad Ben-Yossef gi...@codefidence.com Hi Erez, Erez D wrote: i am compiling a new jffs2 image for an embedded device, and i get an error saying my erase size is wrong. how do i determine what is my erase size ? (so i can compare to a jffs2 file that works) is there a utility that can give info on jffs2 images, like what is their erase size ? Not that I know of, but assuming you can boot that working jffs2 image you can ask the Linux kernel what is the erase block size. target$ cat /proc/mtd dev:size erasesize name mtd0: 0002 0001 bootloader mtd1: 0002 0001 params mtd2: 0040 0001 kernel mtd3: 00bc 0001 filesystem Note the erasesize column. Hope this helps, Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker CTO Codefidence Ltd. Web: http://codefidence.com Cell: +972-52-8260388 Skype: gilad_codefidence Tel: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax: +972-8-9316884 Email: gi...@codefidence.com Check out our Open Source technology and training blog - http://tuxology.net Sorry cannot parse this, its too long to be true :) -- Eric Dumazet on netdev mailing list ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Desktop effects stopped working on Ubuntu 9.04
I have an Ubuntu 9.04 laptop with Intel 945 graphics adapter. Desktop effects worked until this morning when I connected it to an external monitor. After disconnecting the external monitor and restarting the laptop, desktop effects stopped working. Does someone have an idea how to reenable them? -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Desktop effects stopped working on Ubuntu 9.04
I get the following output: Checking for Xgl: not present. xset q doesn't reveal the location of the log file. Using fallback /var/log/Xorg.0.log Detected PCI ID for VGA: Checking for texture_from_pixmap: not present. Trying again with indirect rendering: Checking for texture_from_pixmap: present. Checking for non power of two support: present. Checking for Composite extension: present. Checking screen 1Comparing resolution (1024x600) to maximum 3D texture size (2048): Passed. Checking for Software Rasterizer: present. Software rasterizer detected, abortingaborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity -- Ori Idan On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Shay Ohayon s...@shayohayon.net wrote: what happens if you run ' compiz --replace ' from the terminal? 2009/10/13 Ori Idan o...@helicontech.co.il: I have an Ubuntu 9.04 laptop with Intel 945 graphics adapter. Desktop effects worked until this morning when I connected it to an external monitor. After disconnecting the external monitor and restarting the laptop, desktop effects stopped working. Does someone have an idea how to reenable them? -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Desktop effects stopped working on Ubuntu 9.04
Thank you very much. I had to delete the display section and restart X -- Ori Idan On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Ori Berger linux...@orib.net wrote: Ori Idan wrote: I have an Ubuntu 9.04 laptop with Intel 945 graphics adapter. Desktop effects worked until this morning when I connected it to an external monitor. After disconnecting the external monitor and restarting the laptop, desktop effects stopped working. Does someone have an idea how to reenable them? It's a known bug in the Intel driver: You placed the external screen to the left/right of the laptop screen, causing the effective screen width to be one that the Intel Driver does not support 3D acceleration for, thereby causing compiz to turn off effects. If effects won't turn on, check /etc/X11.conf under section Screen subsection Display to see it doesn't still list a too-wide screen (your laptop is probably 1024 or 1280 pixels wide). When this happened to me, I deleted the Display altogether and let Ubuntu re-figure it out itself, but a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg might be helpful. And from now on, when you connect an external monitor, just be sure to place the screen above/below the laptop screen rather than to the left/right of it. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Digital Photo Keychains for Linux
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Tzafrir Cohen tzaf...@cohens.org.ilwrote: On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 08:51:28AM +0300, Eli Marmor wrote: Hi, Do you know all those trendy Digital Photo Keychains? These cute and tiny digital frames that are sold for 49-79 NIS and are charged and fed by photos from a PC through USB? Well, I've always was sure that they use the standard flash disk protocol with the computer, like all the other players (MP3, MP4, etc.) and that their disk looks as a drive for your OS and you can just manage the files there (copy/rename/remove/etc.) just like any other directory or folder. I was amazed to find out that these devices require a special software to manage them. It means that they don't work with Linux, most of them don't work with MAC too, and that even the thousands software packages which were developed for Windows (!) can't access them (because they are not like drives with normal files, but just a black box which only the user can access and only through the special software). Since there are hundreds of models, I can't believe that all of them use this crazy was of working and that none uses the standard flash disk protocol. I'll be glad to hear models that use the standard protocol (like all of the MP3, MP4, disk-on-key, etc.). Any idea what it would take to reflash one of those with a nicer firmware? To rewrite the firmware one must know the processor used there, it's memory map, amount of memory, peripheral addresses etc. I don't think it's easy to do. -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [W2l] Welcome-to-Linux/Welcome-to-FOSS Planning - what we'd like to have
As allways I volunteer to give the philosophy lecture. I can also give a rerun of the living in the community lecture. -- Ori Idan On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Shlomi Fish shlo...@iglu.org.il wrote: Hi all! Well, as you may have noticed, there wasn't a general consensus on whether Welcome-to-Linux (= W2L) or Welcome-to-FOSS (= W2FOSS) were better. However, looking at the schedule at: http://welcome.linux.org.il/2008/timetable.html it seems very old-fashioned and rehearsed. We can just keep the slides and refer people to them. As the Telux/TelFOSS benevolent dictator[1], I think we'll do something which is kind-of in between. What I think is that we need at first is a two part series. The first installment (not necessarily the first one to be given) will be a showcase of lots of FOSS (Linux, but also portable software) awesomeness-factor: graphics, features, usability, some free games[2], Amarok, kaffeine/totem, etc. We should remember that using a laptop (with Linux or otherwise) and having an Internet there are mutually exclusive, unless we can get Eddie to somehow give us the necessary Tel Aviv Uni INET privileges. The second installment will be about the FOSS philosophy, ideology and its practical implications. The summary of it that I have so far is: Welcome-to-Linux / Welcome-to-FOSS abstract --- * Introduction: - What is Free Software/Open Source: - source code - analogy to wikipedia. (?) - Edit/View source. - The FSF Free Software Definition - FOSS != Public Domain - copyleft. - some restrictions. - share-alike - permissive licences (BSDL, X11L, etc.) - do what you want with them? - mostly - * Examples of open source software: - Firefox. - OpenOffice.org - Linux. - what is an operating system. - A free kernel. - The GNU/Linux run-time. - lots of names - X11 (X.Org), KDE, GNOME, OpenSSH. - don't be alarmed. - Other similar OSes (FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD). - Many distributions. - all packaging the same FOSS components (with some modifications). - Different glue, behaviour and features. - Different bugs. - Our recommended distributions: - Fedora - Mandriva - Ubuntu - links to pages with information about them - material of previous presentations. - * Advantages of open-source: - May not cost money. - gratis/costless/free-as-in-free-beer. - freely distributable - Note: it's ok to sell it! - Story of Stallman selling tapes of GNU software to people who could not download them from the Internet. - Can be modified and enhanced: - study the source to learn how the program works. - for enlightenement. - to compensate for lacking documentation. - - fix bugs. - add new features. - refactoring. - fork - Use the Internet for collaboration - Bazaar model of development. - Refer to the Cathedral and the Bazaar series. - Not anti-commercial / anti-business. - Many valid business models. - Examples (?) - Lots of profitable companies. - As opposed to tangible goods (e.g: hammers, cars, food), software once developed, can be mass-produced at zero cost. - Many developers develop FOSS for fun - Many developers get paid to develop it. It could use some work, but I hope you get my drift, and suggestions will be welcome. After these two presentation (whose order I'm still not sure about but I'm leaning to make the first one the first.) we can have a presentation for developers covering the various options for FOSS development (not only C or even only Java) and maybe then have some Haifux-like Staying-in-FOSS presentations. These seems more hip, more modern and less resource consuming than having a 5-installments long series just about Linux. I also see that Haifux will have a Welcome-to-Linux series this year, and would like to commend them for it. Thoughts anyone? Regards, Shlomi Fish [1] - not for life, though. I welcome spin-offs of Telux, coups, etc. [2] - Yes, I know that they are not up-to-par with commercial offerings, (see the other thread) but many open-source games can still be impressive: PySolFC, Extreme Tux Racer, etc. These can provide a large glitz factor too. -- - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Parody on The Fountainhead - http://shlom.in/towtf Chuck Norris read the entire English Wikipedia in 24 hours. Twice
Re: [W2l] Welcome-to-Linux/Welcome-to-FOSS Planning - what we'd like to have
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Shlomi Fish shlo...@iglu.org.il wrote: On Sunday 20 Sep 2009 18:42:49 Ori Idan wrote: As allways I volunteer to give the philosophy lecture. That would be nice. I think we should also need a backup lecturer. Maybe Eddie or Lisha or someone. And if you have any comments on the summary that would be nice. I think Eddie is a good backup unless someone else volunteer. I can also give a rerun of the living in the community lecture. I don't think it will be necessary as part of the core 2-4 parts series. It can be and may be should be part of the extended lectures. -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Idea: Welcome to Open Source instead of Welcome to Linux this year
I think we should keep it welcome to Linux as people already know firefox and some of them know Open Office. We should introduce Linux. If we make it welcome to FOSS we actually encourage people to keep on using proprietary software (windows). -- Ori Idan On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 12:47 PM, geoffrey mendelson geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote: So what do you think? Am I crazy or am I on to something? Two people I talked with liked the idea, and a different one had some doubts. I think as long as you present it in a positive way, i.e. the benefits of FOSS and the FOSS philosophy, without getting into a FOSS/non FOSS debate, and the benefits of using FOSS without denigrating non FOSS software, etc. I think you will find that people are much more familar with FOSS than you think. For example, it seems that all the public schools in Jerusalem use FireFox and many use OO, without any fanfare, articles in Ynet, etc, it just happened. The State of Israel paid to localize the Windows version of OO, and a lot of people use it without even knowing that it is FOSS, and so on. I think that anything beyond that should be a talk on its own. There is no reason to get the average person confused with CLI's, VMS, etc. Geoff. -- geoffrey mendelson N3OWJ/4X1GM Jerusalem Israel geoffreymendel...@gmail.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: New Essay - FOSS Licences Wars
I do completely understand the attractiveness of the MIT license. It's simple and can't come back to bite you later. I'm just saying the GPL has plenty of benefits. I am not sure I understand. MIT license can't come back and bite me? Correct me if I am wrong but in MIT license someone can take my software and make it proprietary, add some features and sell it. If it was GPL he/she could still sell it but I had the same option since I can see his/her additions to the software. -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: New Essay - FOSS Licences Wars
I also like the article, it really shows most of the licenses and explains them. I would be happy if it contains more information about the clauses in BSD licenses. As for myself I prefer writing GPL applications as GPL license keeps the software free so it actually defends me from people that will take my software and make it propriatry. -- Ori Idan On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Shlomi Fish shlo...@iglu.org.il wrote: On Friday 21 August 2009 22:07:17 Steve Litt wrote: On Friday 21 August 2009 12:58:13 Shlomi Fish wrote: Hi all! I have published a new essay about free software licences: http://www.shlomifish.org/philosophy/computers/open-source/foss-licences- wa rs/ Any comments will be welcome. Excellent essay! Thanks! I like the way you immediately revealed your predjudice (pro- MIT) so as to get that out of the way. :-) I disagree with some of your conclusions, but obviously your facts are spot on. Thanks. I would be happy to hear any arguments you have against my conclusions. Maybe I'll change my opinions. I especially like this: 3. Write a GPLed server for solving Freecell that the graphical game would communicate with using TCP/IP or a different IPC mechanism. That's an excellent encapsulation method not only for variables, but for licenses too. Yes. It's not always feasible to do that. For example, you cannot do it with the strong-copyleft Berkeley DB or the formerly GPLed Qt, without really killing performance *and* going through a lot of trouble. But it is often an option, as is the case for a Freecell solver. BTW, I do actually have some aspirations of creating a web-service for fc- solve in order to provide hints for http://cards.wikia.com/wiki/World_of_Solitaire or a similar online Solitaire game. So it seems some of the hypothetical anti-GPL measures are actually otherwise useful technologically. Best regards, Shlomi Fish SteveT Steve Litt Recession Relief Package http://www.recession-relief.US Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/ways_to_do_it.html God gave us two eyes and ten fingers so we will type five times as much as we read. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il