Re: upgrade fund

2001-03-26 Thread Robert Shiels


i'd like to do it via dabs.com, because their interface is useable and
i've not personally had any problems with them.  i'll pick only in-stock
stuff because i understand that they can be slacker than they advertise
when it comes to re-stocking.  jo would hopefully oversee the process so i
don't end up ordering bananas by mistake.


I ordered a HD from dabs.com last Thursday, the interface said they had 76
in stock. After registering, paying and completing the order, suddenly all
the stock had vanished. It's now Monday and they are still awaiting stock.
This could be an isolated case I suppose...but I've bought one from a
computer fair now and have cancelled the order.

Yes - RAM is sooo cheap at the moment - get loads!

/Robert




Re: April Meetings

2001-03-26 Thread David Cantrell

On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 07:25:39AM +0100, Dave Cross wrote:

 Thanks for the offer Simon, but I've already postponed this meeting once 
 and am loathe to do it again.

Shame :-(  I was hoping to be able to make it to my first non-Damian tech
meet, but my sister's visiting that evening.

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Re: April Meetings

2001-03-26 Thread Dave Cross

At Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:20:41 +0100, David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 07:25:39AM +0100, Dave Cross wrote:
 
  Thanks for the offer Simon, but I've already postponed this meeting 
  once and am loathe to do it again.
 
 Shame :-(  I was hoping to be able to make it to my first non-Damian 
 tech meet, but my sister's visiting that evening.

And you don't think she'd like to come along?

Dave...



Re: April Meetings

2001-03-26 Thread Marty Pauley

On Sun Mar 25 19:05:36 2001, Tony Bowden wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 06:44:43PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote:
  The April meetings are approaching and we have no firm plans for them yet.
  The social meeting will be on April 5th. Last plan I remember was that 
  mstevens was going to investigate booking the cellar bar at the Cittie of 
  Yorke. Did that happen?
 
 Hmmm  or, you could have your social meeting in Belfast, while Schwern
 is still here ...

It might be cheaper to fly Schwern and you to London.

You could get your Grand Visir to arrange a belfast.pm thingie as well.

-- 
Marty

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Re: ISO8601 [was] Re: Pointless, Badly-Written Module.

2001-03-26 Thread pmh

On Fri, 23 Mar 2001 19:07:16 +, Dave Cross wrote:
 At 17:48 23/03/2001, you wrote:
 On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, you wrote:
 
   Well, I can make a guess at what the first number represents. Those 
  expansion plans really are short-term.
 
 Peter Haworth   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   "Put down those Windows disks Dave  Dave?  DAVE!!"
 -- HAL 9000
 
 and for a bonus half point (cos its easy) .. why was HAL called HAL?
 
 Well, Arthur C Clarke claims it's a pure coincidence, but if you take the 
 letters after each of H, A and L - you get IBM.

I vaguely recall it standing for something like "Heuristic Algorithmic Logic," but 
that doesn't really set it apart from anything.

-- 
Peter Haworth   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mary had a little key - she kept it in escrow.
And every thing that mary said, the feds were sure to know.
-- Sam Simpson



Re: ISO8601 [was] Re: Pointless, Badly-Written Module.

2001-03-26 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick

On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I vaguely recall it standing for something like "Heuristic Algorithmic
 Logic," but that doesn't really set it apart from anything.

how does that explain SAL9000?

MBM

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Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-26 Thread Leo Lapworth

Just to let you all know I'm on the market again.

Looking for Senior Developer, permanent position in London.

CV at:
http://www.cuckoo.org/people/leo/

Please feel free to forward to anyone looking.

Thanks

Leo



Re: upgrade fund

2001-03-26 Thread Robin Szemeti

On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, you wrote:

  [buying a hard disk]

 Anyone know of any good sources of cheap, BIG hard disks atm?  Like in the
 70 to 100Gb range, IDE?  Speed not an issue, reliability is as these are
 for my server.  I need^Wwant six, and would rather not pay the 250-odd quid

for reliability you want scsi .. ever wondered why scsi costs more? .. 
the drives are generally built to a better spec.

when it comes to servers for speed you want scsi ...esp under linux ..
(ISTR that the 2.4 kernel will have ultra-ata 66 support ..  prior to
that you just get basic IDE AFAIK)

scsi multithreads, IDE doesn't.. this makes quite a difference on
multi-process applications .. esp. servers

when a scsi device goes down it often leaves the bus usable, when an IDE
goes down it usually kills the other drive its master/slave to. Its not
uncommon for the other port of the usually integrated IDE controller to
hang at this point. If you are going to use multiple IDE try and hang
them all as masters on as many controller cards as you can .. this can be
a problem with PC architecture .. ( whose bright idea was it that 16
interrupts would be enough then ?) but if reliabilty really is important
its the way to go. (after scsi, natch :)

-- 
Robin Szemeti

The box said "requires windows 95 or better"
So I installed Linux!



originality

2001-03-26 Thread Greg McCarroll


Tim Maher from SPUG just arranged a great ``damian activity'', a
river cruise with DC. It occurs to me when we have the ``gliteratti''
of the perl world in town we have to come up with something even
better. The problem of course with London (London.pm?) is that
every activity we can think of is drink related.

Greg

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Re: upgrade fund

2001-03-26 Thread Jonathan Stowe

On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Robin Szemeti wrote:
 
 scsi multithreads, IDE doesn't.. this makes quite a difference on
 multi-process applications .. esp. servers
 

I will vouch for this having just loaded a ~1Gb database on my laptop - it
takes about 2-3 times longer on IDE here than it would on an otherwise
similarly specified machine with SCSI disks - this is because IDE has a
greater need to serialize the multiple reads and writes required for this
operation 


/J\




white wine

2001-03-26 Thread Greg McCarroll


Just to get us back on topic 

I heartilly recommend Terrazaz Chardonnay, its very nice for
a chardonnay - which reminds me of one of the most pretentious
things i ever heard said ( i can't remember if it was on tv,
radio or in the flesh, but i have a horrible feeling it was
in the flesh )

When asked what wine someone wanted, they replied `ABC'. When
the recipient of this response said, quite naturally - `What?',
he first person replied - `Anything But Chardonnay'.

Now if this isn't justification to beat someone to death
with the arm you've just ripped out of their socket i don't
know what is.

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-03-05

2001-03-26 Thread Alasdair G Kergon

On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 11:47:47AM +, Leon Brocard wrote:
 realised that this
 makes three consecutive weeks with conferences this summer that I
 want to go to: O'Reilly's Open Source Convention, yapc::Europe, and
 HAL2001. 
I threw together a quick-reference page for conferences I'd *like* to 
get to (assuming Many Worlds):
  http://www.oxlug.org/majorevents.html

It doesn't fill 52 weeks of the year - yet:-)

Currently I'm trying to round up some international speakers - and
sponsorship - for:
  http://www.ukuug.org/events/linux2001/CFP.shtml
(Last year more than half the speakers came from abroad.)

Alasdair
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Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-03-05

2001-03-26 Thread Jonathan Stowe

On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, Alasdair G Kergon wrote:

Oops sorry about that - I approved this twice :(

Too long a break I would suggest ...

/J\




Re: white wine

2001-03-26 Thread Jonathan Stowe

On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:

 
 Just to get us back on topic 
 

I just had to buy a bottle of Pendulum Zinfandel at the weekend - its
Italian and comes in a shiny gold bottle ... and despite appearances its
actually a fairly good red wine.

/J\




Re: white wine

2001-03-26 Thread Simon Cozens

On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 10:34:38PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
 I just had to buy a bottle of Pendulum Zinfandel at the weekend - its
 Italian and comes in a shiny gold bottle ... and despite appearances its
 actually a fairly good red wine.

Ooh good. I got one of them for Christmas and still haven't gotten around to
drinking it. Not sure I'll like it though, because Italian reds tend to be
very thin, and I like chewy wines. We'll see.

-- 
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come to the City of Expiring Dreams (apologies to Matthew Arnold)?  
 -- Katherine Kaye, on Oxford.



Re: Not Matt's Scripts

2001-03-26 Thread Jonathan Stowe

On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Dave Cross wrote:

 At Sun, 25 Mar 2001 22:21:52 +0100 (BST), Jonathan Stowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Dave Cross wrote:
  
   I've had a bit of a go at some of these today and they're up at 
   http://www.dave.org.uk/scripts/notmatt/ if anyone's interested.
  
  
  You might want to change the content-type on that directory as I get a
  funny error :)
 
 Hmm... What error are you getting? Works ok for me.
  

htmlbody bgcolor=#ff
h2Script execution error/h2
pUnable to execute script due to a configuration problem.
brPlease notify the webmaster of this error.
pexec() returned: b13: Permission denied/b
/body/html


  Anyhow what are we going to do about the 'C++' ones :)
 
 Ignore them. Pretend they aren't there :)
 

Oh go one, wipes paw on table sooty style 

/J\




Re: upgrade fund

2001-03-26 Thread David Cantrell

On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 07:02:59PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
 On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, David Cantrell:
 
  Anyone know of any good sources of cheap, BIG hard disks atm?  Like in the
  70 to 100Gb range, IDE?  Speed not an issue, reliability is as these are
  for my server.  I need^Wwant six, and would rather not pay the 250-odd quid
 
 for reliability you want scsi .. ever wondered why scsi costs more? .. 
 the drives are generally built to a better spec.

No, the drives are frequently exactly the same mechanics with a different
board.  Anyway, by reliable I mean "not sold by some dodgy bloke in a
computer fair who threw them down the stairs a few times" and.  AFAICT SCSI
costs more because you're paying for the 'brand'.

 when it comes to servers for speed you want scsi ...esp under linux ..

It is my impression that SCSI only becomes worthwhile if you're expecting
lots of reads and writes at the same time.

 (ISTR that the 2.4 kernel will have ultra-ata 66 support ..  prior to
 that you just get basic IDE AFAIK)

Naah, it's a personal server, which I should probably have pointed out.
It has one user - me - and is used mainly for backups and for burning CDs.

I believe you get ATA 33 in 2.2.something, but I don't particularly
give a shit.

 scsi multithreads, IDE doesn't.. this makes quite a difference on
 multi-process applications .. esp. servers

I don't need that.  It matters not to me if it takes a few seconds extra
to copy a file.  And in any case, I'll be spreading the load over at
least two - possibly three - IDE controllers which should mitigate this
to a certain extent.

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Re: white wine

2001-03-26 Thread David Cantrell

On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 12:07:30AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:

 I don't want to sound like a twat, but it may be too late already so here
 goes, one of the things i hate about going out to a italian restaurant
 is the wine. 

twat me too /twat but then I don't like the wine in many other
restaurants either.  Beer all the way for me.

Unfortunately, the lovely Italian wine I found in caffs throughout Naples
back in November does not seem to be available over here at all.  I keep
meaning to ring the vinyard to see if they can send me a case, or at least
point me at a merchant over here who can.

According to the critics, it is 'acceptable if not great' but fuck it,
*I* liked it.

Lachryma Christi del Vesuvio, in case anyone is interested.  The red is
an excellent accompaniment to spicy pizzas, and the white is fooking
great for quaffing during a day lazing in the sun chugging around
Sicily's offshore islands in a boat.  I bought a mixed case before we
headed south from Naples, brought a few bottles back with me but have
finished them all now.

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Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-26 Thread Roger Burton West

On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 05:19:12PM +0100, Leo Lapworth wrote:
Just to let you all know I'm on the market again.

Me too. Looking for senior developer/senior unix admin (ideally a blend
of the two), permanent, London, no Windows. CV on request.

Roger



Re: white wine

2001-03-26 Thread Simon Cozens

On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 11:22:34PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
 Unfortunately, the lovely Italian wine I found in caffs throughout Naples
 back in November does not seem to be available over here at all. 

Why ship the good stuff to the ignorant Brits when they can keep it for
themselves? Sounds like pretty good thinking to me.

-- 
teco  /dev/audio
- Ignatios Souvatzis

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Re: upgrade fund

2001-03-26 Thread Robin Szemeti

On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, you wrote:

 No, the drives are frequently exactly the same mechanics with a different
 board.  Anyway, by reliable I mean "not sold by some dodgy bloke in a
 computer fair who threw them down the stairs a few times" and.  AFAICT SCSI
 costs more because you're paying for the 'brand'.
 
 Naah, it's a personal server, which I should probably have pointed out.
 It has one user - me - and is used mainly for backups and for burning CDs.

right .. got it .. I thought you meant the 'must run for 10,000 hrs, hot
swap PSU's and a generator outside' type reliability .. you jsut mean
'don;t fall over every week' sort of reliability .. 

Usually when people talk about servers with 600 gigabytes of data its
fair to assume that their will be a considerable load on them, clearly
thats not the case here .. so I'm sure IDE will be just fine.

Pity, I know of some very nice rack mount RAID solutions with
fibrechannel  architecture  and up to a terrabyte in 3U ... sure you can;t
be tempted ? ;)

-- 
Robin Szemeti

The box said "requires windows 95 or better"
So I installed Linux!



Re: white wine

2001-03-26 Thread Robin Szemeti

On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, you wrote:
 * Robin Szemeti ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
   know what is.
  
  ughh ,,, chardonay .. toilet water :)
  
 
 it all depends, the one i recommeded has body

I am of cours always ready to be educated .. by practical demonstration ;)

  then we get on to the 'wine so sweet you could stand a spoon up in it'. I
 
 well here we go into the realms of hungarian desert wine, now i am going
 to try this one phonetically (i.e. i have no chance at getting the
 spelling right), anyway its called ... too-kai
 
 its measured with a number and thats the number of shovels of over ripe 
 grapes in each barrel, the higher the number the sweeter the wine
 
  Also (being half  Hungarian) am rather fond of  Tokai .. 5 Putonyos of
  course. Quite a different taste to most other things.
 
 ah, this is one of the cases where one should read then reply, rather
 than reply as one reads

ooh I dunno .. so much more fun this way :)
 
 his use of 5 is the shovels i believe

it is indeed .. My Father who has knowledge of such things tells me 5
'large wickerwork baskets' of over ripe grapes .. but baskets, shovels ..
the principles the same. Bigger the number, sweeter (and more honey
coloured) the wine. As far as I know it only gos up to 5 .. but if anyone
has a 6, I'll help them test it.

-- 
Robin Szemeti

The box said "requires windows 95 or better"
So I installed Linux!



Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-26 Thread Piers Cawley

Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 y* Simon Cozens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 11:41:33PM +0100, Aaron Trevena wrote:
   On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Roger Burton West wrote:
Just to let you all know I'm on the market again.
Me too.
   er.. and me. 
  
  Who was it that was saying that the contract market was great just now?
  
 
 i think it was me, i dont want to go into this too much, but i think
 that a general perl consultancy (you know who you are) can take these
 guys, be very clever at marketting yourselves and prosper

Possibly. But given that our first client has just gone titsup.com
before we actually did any work for them (thank heavens for small
mercies,) I want to be in the position of having work lined up before
I start recruiting again. Or were you talking about NetThink?

-- 
Piers




mmm ... toys ..

2001-03-26 Thread Robin Szemeti

mmm .. 

by some dint of fate I appear to be the proud owner of a rather nice new
Dell laptop.

Bit slow ( 850mhz P3 ) and 128 mb of ram is hardly enough to run Vi in is
it ..  a poxy 32Gb hard disc means I'll probably run out of space soon
too. (thinks .. this is considerably more powerful than my workstation ..
h..)

the best bit is the video card .. 32mb ATI Mobility  .. runs two monitors
in 1400 * 1050 high colour .. and you can move between one and the other
(just like you;ve been able to do on Macs since the years dot.) ..  the
15in 1400*1050 screen is good too and seems to allow a decent viewing
angle instead of the usual 5 degrees or so.

all I need to do now is partition magic it and install Linux ... does
anyone know if fips.exe can resize partitons without hoovering the lot ??
or shuold I get partition magic anyway ?

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Robin Szemeti

The box said "requires windows 95 or better"
So I installed Linux!



Re: white wine

2001-03-26 Thread Paul Makepeace

On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 11:22:34PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
 meaning to ring the vinyard to see if they can send me a case, or at least
 point me at a merchant over here who can.

Alternatively, if TPC5 is held in Monterey again you can partake of
the local plethora of vineyards in the area. They do very enjoyable
and cheap, often free, tastings all the way down the peninsula and
you could return to the UK with some excellent Syrahs and Merlots
(my personal faves) at wholesale prices. That is of course if you
don't pass out with a blissful expression in some field somewhere...

Paul, central coast local



Re: white wine

2001-03-26 Thread David H. Adler

On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 06:17:29PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 11:22:34PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
  meaning to ring the vinyard to see if they can send me a case, or at least
  point me at a merchant over here who can.
 
 Alternatively, if TPC5 is held in Monterey again you can partake of
 the local plethora of vineyards in the area.

On the other hand, since it's going to be in San Diego, maybe not...

dha

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"In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and
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Re: That book

2001-03-26 Thread David H. Adler

On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 05:04:03PM +, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
 
 MBM wrote:
 
 Not if we can't come up with a good name for not matt's script archive it
 won't be.
 
  The other possibility, I guess, given that it's london.pm is to make it
  relate to buffy in some way :)
 
 Or beer.  Or both ;-)

The CaveSlayer Archive.  Or has that not gotten across the great wide
ocean yet?

dha
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Re: Debuggers (was Re: Perl Training Courses)

2001-03-26 Thread Paul Makepeace

On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 06:09:19AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
 Let me explain the set-up. I have a PC running Win95.

OK, so the contract market's gone to the dogs.

Paul



Re: Not Matt's Scripts

2001-03-26 Thread Dave Cross

At 22:46 26/03/2001, you wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Dave Cross wrote:

  At Sun, 25 Mar 2001 22:21:52 +0100 (BST), Jonathan Stowe 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Dave Cross wrote:
  
I've had a bit of a go at some of these today and they're up at
http://www.dave.org.uk/scripts/notmatt/ if anyone's interested.
   
  
   You might want to change the content-type on that directory as I get a
   funny error :)
 
  Hmm... What error are you getting? Works ok for me.


Script execution error



Unable to execute script due to a configuration problem.
Please notify the webmaster of this error.

exec() returned: 13: Permission denied

OK. When I said "works", I hadn't actually tried to _view_ on of the scripts.

I've renamed them to .pl.txt and it seems to work now. PowerHost seem to 
have that server configured in a really weird way - I'll get on to them later.

Thanks for pointing it out.

Now, do you know why [EMAIL PROTECTED] has suddenly be subscribed to this 
list? I keep getting everything twice?

Dave...



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Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-26 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Piers Cawley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 Possibly. But given that our first client has just gone titsup.com
 before we actually did any work for them (thank heavens for small
 mercies,) I want to be in the position of having work lined up before
 I start recruiting again. Or were you talking about NetThink?
 

i just meant a `perl consultancy', i.e. both/either/another/etc.


-- 
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Re: white wine

2001-03-26 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Robin Szemeti ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 it is indeed .. My Father who has knowledge of such things tells me 5
 'large wickerwork baskets' of over ripe grapes .. but baskets, shovels ..
 the principles the same. Bigger the number, sweeter (and more honey
 coloured) the wine. As far as I know it only gos up to 5 .. but if anyone
 has a 6, I'll help them test it.
 

there is a large agricultural show every year in edinburgh, called -
the royal highland show (IIRC), it was here that a rather nice wine promooter
took me on ... gusto the Tokai trail ! /gusto it was basically
going from 3 upwards to 6,7,+ (can't quite remember) and its quite a journey

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: white wine

2001-03-26 Thread Robin Szemeti

On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, you wrote:
 Just to get us back on topic 
 
 I heartilly recommend Terrazaz Chardonnay, its very nice for
 a chardonnay - which reminds me of one of the most pretentious
 things i ever heard said ( i can't remember if it was on tv,
 radio or in the flesh, but i have a horrible feeling it was
 in the flesh )
 
 When asked what wine someone wanted, they replied `ABC'. When
 the recipient of this response said, quite naturally - `What?',
 he first person replied - `Anything But Chardonnay'.
 
 Now if this isn't justification to beat someone to death
 with the arm you've just ripped out of their socket i don't
 know what is.

ughh ,,, chardonay .. toilet water :)

I my favourites 'light' wines at the moment are the Mosel Valley, (Trauben
Traubach and Erden in particular) ... much under rated and often lumped
together with some very poor wines, but actually quite good, if you like
that sort of thing.

then we get on to the 'wine so sweet you could stand a spoon up in it'. I
am a complete sucker for anything from Sauternes, Lupiac, Pauliac,
Graves, Monbazilac etc.  and had a very nice Trochenbeerenauslese a
month or so ago that I reckon was just s good (and it should have been
too at that price) Sadly you rarely see that at a price that doesn't make
you cringe...

Also (being half  Hungarian) am rather fond of  Tokai .. 5 Putonyos of
course. Quite a different taste to most other things.

-- 
Robin Szemeti

The box said requires windows 95 or better
So I installed Linux!



Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-26 Thread Greg McCarroll

y* Simon Cozens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 11:41:33PM +0100, Aaron Trevena wrote:
  On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Roger Burton West wrote:
   Just to let you all know I'm on the market again.
   Me too.
  er.. and me. 
 
 Who was it that was saying that the contract market was great just now?
 

i think it was me, i dont want to go into this too much, but i think
that a general perl consultancy (you know who you are) can take these
guys, be very clever at marketting yourselves and prosper

-- 
Greg McCarroll