Re: Technical Meeting - 21st June
On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 07:15:32PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: Oh... er... it's only three days to the technical meeting and so far I don't seem to have any talks for it. Thursday.. what, this thursday where does the time go. Assuming I can make it (have to check something), I'll give a little update on the new web site. If you are really desperate I can talk through my XML - DB schema and docs thingy, but it's not ready for release so only if people are interested. - Both short talks. Leo
Re: Technical Meeting - 21st June
Leo Lapworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 07:15:32PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: Oh... er... it's only three days to the technical meeting and so far I don't seem to have any talks for it. Thursday.. what, this thursday where does the time go. Assuming I can make it (have to check something), I'll give a little update on the new web site. Bugger. I definitely can't make it. -- Piers Cawley www.iterative-software.com
Re: Technical Meeting - 21st June
Oh... er... it's only three days to the technical meeting and so far I don't seem to have any talks for it. Err, I have to produce 3 hours of material so I don't think that the technical meeting would be the right place for it. Apart from that it isn't finished yet. If there is another technical meeting before YAPC::Europe I will do 30 mins worth of material or 3 hours abridged (sort of like campbels condensed soup). Its been a few years since I did this kinda thing so I will be in need of constructive critisism. Red
Technical Meeting - 21st June
Oh... er... it's only three days to the technical meeting and so far I don't seem to have any talks for it. I'll write my Perl for the People talk tonight and give that, and I think that Robin wanted to do something. There must be others out there who want to practice talks that they'll be giving at TPC or YAPC::E. Please let me know. Dave... -- Don't dream it... be it
Re: Upcoming technical meeting
On Fri, 8 Jun 2001 19:14:41 +0100, Dave Cross wrote: On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 03:34:28PM +0100, Peter Haworth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Can someone please remind me about the technical meeting on the 21st? Now that it looks like I might be in London at the time, I find I've deleted all the relevant messages and can't remember if there's an archive. Well, er..., there will be a meeting on the 21st. I spoke to Alex last night and he said we could hold it at State 51. Sadly, I can't make it to the meeting after all, even though I'll be in London the next day. -- Peter Haworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just looked at the HTTP 1.1 spec (RFC 2616). It's too fscking big. It's a Request For Comments, goddamnit, not a Request For An Epic Of Homeric Proportions! -- David Cantrell
Re: Upcoming technical meeting
David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If this is because you don't have somewhere to stay on the Thursday night, I'm sure we can collectively find a way around that. If you bring your passport, we'll even let you south of the river and my sofa is very comfortable and has a well-stocked booze cabinet next to it. It's a TRAP! -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Upcoming technical meeting
On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 04:28:14PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If this is because you don't have somewhere to stay on the Thursday night, I'm sure we can collectively find a way around that. If you bring your passport, we'll even let you south of the river and my sofa is very comfortable and has a well-stocked booze cabinet next to it. It's a TRAP! You been playing wy too much nethack recently. -Dom -- | Semantico: creators of major online resources | | URL: http://www.semantico.com/ | | Tel: +44 (1273) 72 | | Address: 33 Bond St., Brighton, Sussex, BN1 1RD, UK. |
Re: Upcoming technical meeting
On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 04:28:14PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If this is because you don't have somewhere to stay on the Thursday night, I'm sure we can collectively find a way around that. If you bring your passport, we'll even let you south of the river and my sofa is very comfortable and has a well-stocked booze cabinet next to it. It's a TRAP! Curses! That was my cunning plan to acquire more victims for the Sun god, why'd you have to go and spoil it? I need a sacrifice to get this VT320 working. -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ Good advice is always certain to be ignored, but that's no reason not to give it-- Agatha Christie
Re: Upcoming technical meeting
On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 04:40:44PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 04:28:14PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If this is because you don't have somewhere to stay on the Thursday night, I'm sure we can collectively find a way around that. If you bring your passport, we'll even let you south of the river and my sofa is very comfortable and has a well-stocked booze cabinet next to it. It's a TRAP! Curses! That was my cunning plan to acquire more victims for the Sun god, why'd you have to go and spoil it? I need a sacrifice to get this VT320 working. I think I can see where you're going wrong. It's the DEC god you should be making your sacrifices to. The Sun god will only help for Sparc 1s, 4/110s etc Nicholas Clark
Re: Upcoming technical meeting
Dominic Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 04:28:14PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: It's a TRAP! You been playing wy too much nethack recently. That was a tough level with comfy sofa and the drinks cabinet. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Upcoming technical meeting
On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:26:08 +0100, David Cantrell wrote: On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 04:10:01PM +0100, Peter Haworth wrote: On Fri, 8 Jun 2001 19:14:41 +0100, Dave Cross wrote: Well, er..., there will be a meeting on the 21st. I spoke to Alex last night and he said we could hold it at State 51. Sadly, I can't make it to the meeting after all, even though I'll be in London the next day. If this is because you don't have somewhere to stay on the Thursday night, I'm sure we can collectively find a way around that. If you bring your passport, we'll even let you south of the river and my sofa is very comfortable and has a well-stocked booze cabinet next to it. Well, it was partly due to having nowhere to stay, but I've requested the train ticket now, so it's too late to change my mind. Thanks for the offer, though. -- Peter Haworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just looked at the HTTP 1.1 spec (RFC 2616). It's too fscking big. It's a Request For Comments, goddamnit, not a Request For An Epic Of Homeric Proportions! -- David Cantrell /me feels weird Most of the regular posters on this list (and the others I frequent) are in my sig file somewhere. Look, here's another one: -- Peter Haworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'Are you *really* willing to deal with hundreds of newbies who don't understand why $a . $b isn't the same as $a .$b and isn't the same as $a. $b and isn't the same as $a.$b? And do you realise what the only good answer we can possibly give them is? Because Ed said so.' -- Simon Cozens
Re: Upcoming technical meeting
On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 05:18:43PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: Dominic Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 04:28:14PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: It's a TRAP! You been playing wy too much nethack recently. That was a tough level with comfy sofa and the drinks cabinet. Even tougher - there's ethernet to the sofa too. -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ Good advice is always certain to be ignored, but that's no reason not to give it-- Agatha Christie
Re: Upcoming technical meeting
Leon Brocard wrote: Registration might happen pretty soon too. Ooh, goody. People at work (who fortunately will be paying for me to go to yapc::Europe again this year) have said they'll want to start to get down details. Probably better to book hotel, travel, etc. *after* I register for the conference, or I might end up travelling to AMS for nothing. Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] All opinions are my own, not my employer's. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
Re: Upcoming technical meeting
On Sun, 10 Jun 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Leon Brocard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Redvers Davies sent the following bits through the ether: I'll be there... btw, has anyone heard back from the YAPC::Europe peeps about which papers have been accepted?... or have any idea when the list will be published. [1] Speakers will be told Real Soon Now. Registration might happen pretty soon too. Speakers don't need to register. maybe you'd like to make the point that those who can spare 40 quid or whatever and are speakers can still register to help balance the books Wierdly I just heard this morning that my proposal has been accepted - voice style=Mr TCrazee Fools/voice :) /J\
Re: Upcoming technical meeting
We'll start at about 7pm and people will be practiving TPC and YAPC::E talks. I'll be there... btw, has anyone heard back from the YAPC::Europe peeps about which papers have been accepted?... or have any idea when the list will be published. [1] Red
Re: Upcoming technical meeting
On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 07:23:32AM +, Redvers Davies wrote: I'll be there... btw, has anyone heard back from the YAPC::Europe peeps about which papers have been accepted?... or have any idea when the list will be published. [1] I had an e-mail from Ann Barcomb yesterday saying that my lightning talk had been accepted. I don't know anything further Nicholas Clark
Re: Upcoming technical meeting
Redvers Davies sent the following bits through the ether: I'll be there... btw, has anyone heard back from the YAPC::Europe peeps about which papers have been accepted?... or have any idea when the list will be published. [1] Speakers will be told Real Soon Now. Registration might happen pretty soon too. Speakers don't need to register. Leon [1] no, I have no idea why you missed the footnote either -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Iterative Software...http://www.iterative-software.com/ ... Apple (c) 6024 b.c., Adam Eve
Upcoming technical meeting
Can someone please remind me about the technical meeting on the 21st? Now that it looks like I might be in London at the time, I find I've deleted all the relevant messages and can't remember if there's an archive. -- Peter Haworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... You're in a maze of twisty little Java VMs, all different
Re: Upcoming technical meeting
On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 03:34:28PM +0100, Peter Haworth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Can someone please remind me about the technical meeting on the 21st? Now that it looks like I might be in London at the time, I find I've deleted all the relevant messages and can't remember if there's an archive. Well, er..., there will be a meeting on the 21st. I spoke to Alex last night and he said we could hold it at State 51. We'll start at about 7pm and people will be practiving TPC and YAPC::E talks. Thanks about it for planning so far! Dave...
Re: NWS (was Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April)
On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Struan Donald wrote:
* at 17/04 14:00 +0200 Philip Newton said:
Mark Fowler wrote:
3) Write a set of scripts that are all basically the same but have
different #!/usr/bin/perl lines on the top and tell you the
with a bunch of different extensions such as .pl .plx .cgi for
combinations of "operating system" + web server that map scripts to
interpreters by extension and/or directory rather than by shebang line...
surely there should be a better way than this? after all the
combinations involved are quite numerous. is the notion of something
that does :
#!/bin/sh
if [ -e /usr/bin/perl ]; then
exec './bin_perl.pl'
fi
or equivalent too silly? although not sure this sort of thing is possible
on non unix type systems. OTOH would at least cut down the number of
files that the person installing needs to worry about.
I don't particularly see the number of scripts this person is installing
as a problem. The key concept is that these scripts are designed so that
someone who knows *nothing* about their system can basically upload them
all then see which one works. Once they've got this script working the
script should contain instructions on how to modify any of the
other scripts to work with their server.
I don't think what you're suggesting will work at all on windows. Or pure
mod_perl...
Feel free to disagree, I'm just suggesting ideas here. Honestly, I'm not
sure what's the best way...
Later.
Mark.
--
print "\n",map{my$a="\n"if(length$_6);' 'x(36-length($_)/2)."$_\n$a"} (
Name = 'Mark Fowler',Title = 'Technology Developer' ,
Firm = 'Profero Ltd',Web = 'http://www.profero.com/' ,
Email = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', Phone = '+44 (0) 20 7700 9960' )
Re: NWS (was Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April)
* at 17/04 14:09 +0100 Mark Fowler said: On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Struan Donald wrote: surely there should be a better way than this? after all the combinations involved are quite numerous. is the notion of something that does : #!/bin/sh if [ -e /usr/bin/perl ]; then exec './bin_perl.pl' fi or equivalent too silly? although not sure this sort of thing is possible on non unix type systems. OTOH would at least cut down the number of files that the person installing needs to worry about. I don't particularly see the number of scripts this person is installing as a problem. The key concept is that these scripts are designed so that someone who knows *nothing* about their system can basically upload them all then see which one works. Once they've got this script working the script should contain instructions on how to modify any of the other scripts to work with their server. it's not so much the number of scripts as the "try each of these scripts till one works" situation i think we should be trying to minimise. I don't think what you're suggesting will work at all on windows. Or pure mod_perl... true. although the number of people using mod_perl who'll be using these is debatable. windows is a problem though. Feel free to disagree, I'm just suggesting ideas here. Honestly, I'm not sure what's the best way... heck, anything that helps is better than the "your isp will know" school of help. struan
Technical Meeting Agenda
Here's the agenda(!) for the technical meeting on 19th April (a week today) at State 51. Committee Reports: T-Shirt Committee Server Committee Canel Visitation Committee Lightning Talks: Not Matt's Scripts/TT Views - Mark Why Perl Advocacy is Bad - Dave Talks: "101 fun things to do with Tangram" - Jo "parsing and semantic transformation of Perl code" - Robin Music - Alex Still room for one or two more lightning talks - it might be nice if someone who hasn't already spoken was to have a go. Lightning talks are a gentle way to get into speaking at meetings. Have you done something interesting in Perl that you'd like to tell us about? Let me know. Cheers, Dave... -- The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system.
Re: Technical Meeting Agenda
On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 10:15:13AM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: Committee Reports: Canel Visitation Committee ^ God we're going down market... ;) Dean -- Profanity is the one language all programmers understand --- Anon
RE: Technical Meeting Agenda
From: Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 10:20 AM On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 10:15:13AM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: Committee Reports: Canel Visitation Committee ^ God we're going down market... ;) You didn't think I'd actually have anything to report on the _camel_ visit did you :) Dave... The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system.
Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April
On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, dcross - David Cross wrote:
As usual I'll aim at having four or five lightning talks and two or three
longer talks.
I could do a lightening talk on playing around with skinning stuff with
Template Toolkit's brand spanking new VIEW directive. This would be very
quick as we've seen Andy do this kind of thing before in the pre-release
version. I'd be skinning XML again in my example, but this time I'd be
using XML::XPath...
I'll also be able to give a quick status update on the website for NMS
(probably at the same time as I'll be using it as my example)
Later.
Mark.
(Who thinks this is almost a show 'n' tell situation)
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Name = 'Mark Fowler',Title = 'Technology Developer' ,
Firm = 'Profero Ltd',Web = 'http://www.profero.com/' ,
Email = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', Phone = '+44 (0) 20 7700 9960' )
NWS (was Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April)
* at 11/04 08:28 +0100 Mark Fowler said: On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, dcross - David Cross wrote: snip I'll also be able to give a quick status update on the website for NMS (probably at the same time as I'll be using it as my example) what is the status of the NMS thing. i'm liable to have some spare time over the weekend so if there's anything that needs doing on this i could have a bash. struan
Re: NWS (was Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April)
4) Install Apache::Template, Bundle-XML, Template Toolkit 2.02 on penderel I think this has already been mostly done, but I could be wrong. after much grappling with CPAN shell trying to upgrade us to 5.6.1, this is all done now, though a couple of newer versions of XML modules - not the crucial ones - failed tests, i didn't want to force. let me know if there's anything you want or need missing, jo
Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April
On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 04:56:28PM +0100, Struan Donald wrote: nowhere we might be tempted to sit by the thames till the wee small hours generating tremendous hangovers :) "sit"? IIRC, you tried to lean against a bench but unfortunately were standing between two benches, landing on the ground face-down. Marcel -- We are Perl. Your table will be assimilated. Your waiter will adapt to service us. Surrender your beer. Resistance is futile. -- London.pm strategy aka "embrace and extend" aka "mark and sweep"
Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April
Dave Cross wrote: I understood that you had delegated the actual work to someone else. Can you ensure that your vice-chair is able to speak in your place. Umm. Ok. Somebody give me the designs and I'll get them printed. Talk over. Or am I missing something?
RE: Technical Meeting - 19th April
From: Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 9:17 AM Dave Cross wrote: I understood that you had delegated the actual work to someone else. Can you ensure that your vice-chair is able to speak in your place. Umm. Ok. Somebody give me the designs and I'll get them printed. Mr Cantrell has them I believe. Talk over. Or am I missing something? You're missing the fact that by the meeting you'll have 9 more days of progress to report :) Dave... -- The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system.
Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April
* at 10/04 09:15 +0100 Greg McCarroll said: * Marcel Grunauer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 04:56:28PM +0100, Struan Donald wrote: nowhere we might be tempted to sit by the thames till the wee small hours generating tremendous hangovers :) "sit"? IIRC, you tried to lean against a bench but unfortunately were standing between two benches, landing on the ground face-down. its a good job he had lots of `anasthetic' that night, or that would of really hurt not at the time no :( struan
RE: Technical Meeting - 19th April
From: Robert Shiels [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 10:19 AM might be nice to have status reports from: * The t-shirt committee What is the design that you have agreed on? I will probably want one. There are five. So you'll probably want somewhere between one and five of them :) Are the designs on the web anywhere? Paul? Dave? Anyone? http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/things/321a.html is a fairly new addition I think. Been there for a few months. It's a top piece of code tho'. Dave... -- The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system.
Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April
jo walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Last Thursday I bullied^Wasked some people to consider doing talks for us, but I can't remember who they were. This is your opportunity to step forward. i recall promising to do 20 minutes on '101 fun things to do with Tangram', or something like that. Swear at the maintainer who *still* hasn't put some stuff to allow for schema changes during development without losing data. -- Piers
Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April
Neil Ford wrote: Do we need to dig up the original meeting notes regarding .pm/colour combinations or is Simon to 'wing it'? Got em, cheers.
Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April
dcross - David Cross sent the following bits through the ether: Last Thursday I bullied^Wasked some people to consider doing talks for us, Righto, I'd like to do talks on the following subjects: o Creating an optimising compiler and interpreter for a toy language o More Graphing Perl (crazy stuff Marcel and I have done) o Testing (Test, Test::Simple, Test::More, Test::Unit, Devel::Coverage) o Benchmarking (Benchmark, Devel::DProf, Devel::OpProf, Devel::SmallProf) Of course, I'll actually be in the alps snowboarding[1], so this may have to wait until the next technical meet[2] ;-) [1] read this as "hurting" [2] although you're welcome to steal the bottom two and do them without me, sniff -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Iterative Software..http://yapc.org/Europe/ ... A flashlight is a case for holding dead batteries
Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 11:04:07AM +0100, Neil Ford wrote: Do we need to dig up the original meeting notes regarding .pm/colour combinations or is Simon to 'wing it'? I forwarded it to him, along with the designs that Paul did. -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ This is a signature. There are many like it but this one is mine. ** I read encrypted mail first, so encrypt if your message is important **
Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April
On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Matthew Byng-Maddick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Simon Wistow wrote: I shall proceed from here whence forth unto smack Mr Cantrell until he doth giveth over the designs. Hither-unto. And heretowards. Can we all join in? yes the hitch in the t-shirt plan seems to be Mr Cantrell, so i think we all need to smack our hitch up ;-) That was kind of what I meant. MBM (any excuse :) -- Matthew Byng-Maddick Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] +44 20 8980 5714 (Home) http://colondot.net/ Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] +44 7956 613942 (Mobile) standards n.: The principles upon which we reject other people's code.
Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April
On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 04:09:14PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: As usual I'll aim at having four or five lightning talks and two or three longer talks. I'd like to give a (preferably "longer") talk about parsing and semantic transformation of Perl code. I promise to think of a less scary title, and try not to say "semantic transformation". Should take about 20 minutes. .robin. -- select replace(a, CHR(88), replace(a,,'')) from ( select 'select replace(a, CHR(88), replace(a,,)) from ( select ''X'' a from dual)' a from dual)
Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April
On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 10:31:11PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: At 22:10 09/04/2001, Neil Ford wrote: On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 04:09:14PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: If anyone doesn't know (or has forgotten), there will be a technical meeting on Thursday 19th April. It will be at State 51[1] and we'll start at about 7pm. Details on how to get to State 51 will appear on the web site... er... soon. Ummm forewarned is forearmed Nat and I might not be able to make this which means getting hold of the projector might be a problem :-( If someone wants to pop down to West Sussex to collect it they are more than welcome, unfortunately I'm not travelling into London as much as I was. Neil, Thanks for warning me. Does anyone want to take on the task of being projector monitor and picking it up from Sussex? Sure, I'll polish up the terrorist-mobile[1]. Someone mail me off-list with some instructions. [1] Which contrary to what Micheal J Fox thinks, will do 90, eventually. -- Richard Clamp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April
* at 09/04 16:09 +0100 dcross - David Cross said: snip/ p.s Next social meeting is on Thur 3rd May. Suggestions for venues would be most welcome. nowhere we might be tempted to sit by the thames till the wee small hours generating tremendous hangovers :) struan
Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April
On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, dcross - David Cross wrote: Last Thursday I bullied^Wasked some people to consider doing talks for us, but I can't remember who they were. This is your opportunity to step forward. i'll do some more music for a bit. alex -- here they come lalalalala la lalalalala la the part time punks
Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April
Last Thursday I bullied^Wasked some people to consider doing talks for us, but I can't remember who they were. This is your opportunity to step forward. i recall promising to do 20 minutes on '101 fun things to do with Tangram', or something like that. am still happy to do this, but also happy to do less time if more people want to do longer talks. jo
Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April
On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 04:09:14PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: might be nice to have status reports from: * The t-shirt committee There has been movement on this! I, however, will not be able to attend cos I have a visitor from the darker regions of the galaxy. -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ This is a signature. There are many like it but this one is mine. ** I read encrypted mail first, so encrypt if your message is important **
Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April
At 19:16 09/04/2001, David Cantrell wrote: On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 04:09:14PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: might be nice to have status reports from: * The t-shirt committee There has been movement on this! I, however, will not be able to attend cos I have a visitor from the darker regions of the galaxy. I understood that you had delegated the actual work to someone else. Can you ensure that your vice-chair is able to speak in your place. Dave... -- http://www.dave.org.uk SMS: [EMAIL PROTECTED] plugData Munging with Perl http://www.manning.com/cross//plug
Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April
On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 04:09:14PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: If anyone doesn't know (or has forgotten), there will be a technical meeting on Thursday 19th April. It will be at State 51[1] and we'll start at about 7pm. Details on how to get to State 51 will appear on the web site... er... soon. Ummm forewarned is forearmed Nat and I might not be able to make this which means getting hold of the projector might be a problem :-( If someone wants to pop down to West Sussex to collect it they are more than welcome, unfortunately I'm not travelling into London as much as I was. Neil. -- Neil C. Ford Managing Director, Yet Another Computer Solutions Company Limited [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.yacsc.com
Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April
At 22:10 09/04/2001, Neil Ford wrote: On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 04:09:14PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: If anyone doesn't know (or has forgotten), there will be a technical meeting on Thursday 19th April. It will be at State 51[1] and we'll start at about 7pm. Details on how to get to State 51 will appear on the web site... er... soon. Ummm forewarned is forearmed Nat and I might not be able to make this which means getting hold of the projector might be a problem :-( If someone wants to pop down to West Sussex to collect it they are more than welcome, unfortunately I'm not travelling into London as much as I was. Neil, Thanks for warning me. Does anyone want to take on the task of being projector monitor and picking it up from Sussex? Dave... -- http://www.dave.org.uk SMS: [EMAIL PROTECTED] plugData Munging with Perl http://www.manning.com/cross//plug
Technical Meeting - 19th April
If anyone doesn't know (or has forgotten), there will be a technical meeting on Thursday 19th April. It will be at State 51[1] and we'll start at about 7pm. Details on how to get to State 51 will appear on the web site... er... soon. Last Thursday I bullied^Wasked some people to consider doing talks for us, but I can't remember who they were. This is your opportunity to step forward. might be nice to have status reports from: * The t-shirt committee * The server committee * The camel visitation committee[2] As usual I'll aim at having four or five lightning talks and two or three longer talks. Any questions? Dave... p.s Next social meeting is on Thur 3rd May. Suggestions for venues would be most welcome. [1] I know that some people raised objections to State 51 as a venue, but as I didn't get any other suggestions I didn't really have much choice :( [2] Bugger! That's me. -- The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system.
Re: Technical Meeting
* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: The next meeting is on Thursday 5th April and the next technical meeting is Thursday 19th April. Suggestions for venues for both are welcomed. i think some little birdie told me dean was booking the cittie of yorke (or however you spell it), Greg -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net perl hacker | book collector | the very model of a modern mailing list kook London.pm - meetings held on the day after the first wednesday of the month
Technical Meeting
Just a quick reminder that there will be _no_ technical meeting next Thursday. We've seen far too much of each other and it wouldn't be healthy :) The next meeting is on Thursday 5th April and the next technical meeting is Thursday 19th April. Suggestions for venues for both are welcomed. The web site is, as usual, wrong. I'll correct it over the weekend. Dave...
Re: Technical Meeting 22nd Feb
[ Editors note I have changed the attachment its contents can be found at http://www.gellyfi.sh/stuff/torridirections.pdf /J\ ] Here you go, directions to Torrington. The address is: Torrington Interactive 2 Printing House Yard London E2 7PR Printing House Yard is on the junction of Old Street, Shoreditch High St, Hackney Road and Kingsland Road. We are about 10-15 minutes walk from Old St and Liverpool St tubes. I have attached the official 'Directions to Torrington' PDF file. However, after 6:30 pm the gate on Hackney Road is closed and the only entrance is through the back gates which are on Waterson St (the first road on the left as you walk up Hackney Rd). Matt At 10:56 12/02/01 -0500, you wrote: At Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:49:04 +, Matthew Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How many people can we get in the room at Torrington? I guess we'll be expecting ~30. Maybe a bit more. 30 people should be no problem, over 40 and it will probably start getting a little personal. That sounds OK. I suspect that unfortunately the attendance at this meeting will be adversely affected by Damian being in town only a few days later. And will there be net connectivity in the room? We can probably get by without, but it would be nice to have. We have a 2meg line and we can make sure that there are a few ports patched through from the boardroom. We are also running DHCP so people can get an IP if required. Excellent. Let's call that a plan then. Can you post directions to Torrington, and then I'll post an official announcement. Cheers, Dave... I Have removed the PDF map attachment and placed it at: http://www.gellyfi.sh/stuff/torridirections.pdf Because it was bounced by majordomo :) /J\
Re: Technical Meeting 22nd Feb
I'm assuming that Matt won't want to talk for the _whole_ evening :) So anyone got a short talk they want to give as a support act? Cheers, Dave... Related question: What kit are we going to need for this? (projector, etc.). Also what kit are we going to need for Damian's talk? (projector, PA, wireless microphones?) Neil. -- Neil C. Ford Yet Another Computer Solutions Company [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Technical Meeting 22nd Feb
At Mon, 12 Feb 2001 10:59:55 +, Neil Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm assuming that Matt won't want to talk for the _whole_ evening :) So anyone got a short talk they want to give as a support act? Cheers, Dave... Related question: What kit are we going to need for this? (projector, etc.). I assume we'll need the usual. Projecter, Screen (or white wall!), net connectivity. Can someone at Torrington please confirm which of that list they can supply. Thanks. Also what kit are we going to need for Damian's talk? (projector, PA, wireless microphones?) I'll be able to answer that better after I've visited tomorrow. I strongly suspect that we'll be asking to borrow you prjector again tho' Neil. Cheers, Dave...
Re: Technical Meeting 22nd Feb
At Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:17:14 +, Neil Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [kit for Damian's talk] I'll be able to answer that better after I've visited tomorrow. I strongly suspect that we'll be asking to borrow you prjector again tho' Neil. Shall I come along tomorrow? If you have the time, that would be great. Meet me outside the Conway Hall at 12:30pm. Dave...
Re: Technical Meeting 22nd Feb
At Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:25:34 +, Matthew Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What kit are we going to need for this? (projector, etc.). I assume we'll need the usual. Projecter, Screen (or white wall!), net connectivity. Can someone at Torrington please confirm which of that list they can supply. Thanks. Sorry, been busy all morning. We can supply either a screen or a white wall, not sure which yet but we will supply one or the other. So if somebody else can supply the projector that would be good. Thanks Matt. I guess we'll impose on Neil for his projector again, if that's ok :) No probs projector booked. Neil. -- Neil C. Ford Yet Another Computer Solutions Company [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Technical Meeting 22nd Feb
At 10:31 12/02/01 -0500, you wrote: At Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:25:34 +, Matthew Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What kit are we going to need for this? (projector, etc.). I assume we'll need the usual. Projecter, Screen (or white wall!), net connectivity. Can someone at Torrington please confirm which of that list they can supply. Thanks. Sorry, been busy all morning. We can supply either a screen or a white wall, not sure which yet but we will supply one or the other. So if somebody else can supply the projector that would be good. Thanks Matt. I guess we'll impose on Neil for his projector again, if that's ok :) How many people can we get in the room at Torrington? I guess we'll be expecting ~30. Maybe a bit more. 30 people should be no problem, over 40 and it will probably start getting a little personal. And will there be net connectivity in the room? We can probably get by without, but it would be nice to have. We have a 2meg line and we can make sure that there are a few ports patched through from the boardroom. We are also running DHCP so people can get an IP if required. Matt
Re: Technical Meeting 22nd Feb
On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 10:59:55AM +, Neil Ford wrote: Also what kit are we going to need for Damian's talk? (projector, PA, wireless microphones?) FWIW, damian has (IIRC) requested a vga connection for ny. (will try to remember to confirm this at some point...) Your best bet is to ask him. That's what we did. :-) dha -- David H. Adler - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ The Teletubbies are coming to America. They must be stopped!
Re: Technical Meeting 22nd Feb
At 21:04 12/02/2001, Neil Ford wrote: On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 10:59:55AM +, Neil Ford wrote: Also what kit are we going to need for Damian's talk? (projector, PA, wireless microphones?) FWIW, damian has (IIRC) requested a vga connection for ny. (will try to remember to confirm this at some point...) Your best bet is to ask him. That's what we did. :-) I'll get Mr Cross to check then. Some of teh requirements are going to depend on the size of room we get. Something the size of the cinemas at the ICA and a PA and mics will almost be a necessity. The room we're looking at holds 80-100 people, so that's borderline PA territory in my book. And isn't the VGA connection a requirement for the projector? Or the laptop? Or something other than the room itself? Confused? Dave... -- http://www.dave.org.uk SMS: [EMAIL PROTECTED] plugData Munging with Perl http://www.manning.com/cross//plug
Re: Technical Meeting 22nd Feb
On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 09:17:54PM +, Dave Cross wrote: And isn't the VGA connection a requirement for the projector? Or the laptop? Or something other than the room itself? My assumption is that that describes what is needed to connect the projector and laptop. I just had him talk to the tech people himself. :-) delagatin' dha -- David H. Adler - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ Please do not throw hands at me.- D84, Robots Of Death
Re: Technical Meeting 22nd Feb
At 21:04 12/02/2001, Neil Ford wrote: On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 10:59:55AM +, Neil Ford wrote: Also what kit are we going to need for Damian's talk? (projector, PA, wireless microphones?) FWIW, damian has (IIRC) requested a vga connection for ny. (will try to remember to confirm this at some point...) Your best bet is to ask him. That's what we did. :-) I'll get Mr Cross to check then. Some of teh requirements are going to depend on the size of room we get. Something the size of the cinemas at the ICA and a PA and mics will almost be a necessity. The room we're looking at holds 80-100 people, so that's borderline PA territory in my book. Something to check tomorrow. I'll stand at the back and you can do the Sub::Approx lightning talk :-) And isn't the VGA connection a requirement for the projector? Or the laptop? Or something other than the room itself? I'll admit my message wasn't well written. What I meant was that if the room was titchy we wouldn't need a PA, etc. Might need a VGA extension cable regardless as the one on the projector isn't extremely long. Neil. -- Neil C. Ford Yet Another Computer Solutions Company [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Technical Meeting Sponsorship
Quoting Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): It would be spectacularly appropriate :) I agree :-) I can't remember exactly what the email I got from them said, but they were _far_ cheaper than the Commonwealth Institute (which I also investigated). There was a larger room for ~500 and a smaller one for ~70. I think the smaller one costs 155 for the evening. So that is looking pretty good to me right now. If I don't get any other volunteers I may consider making it a Magnum Solutions sponsored event (if it only costs 150!) You can jot me down for a personal sponsorship of 50. No way I can get a corporate sponsorship in time. Cheers, -- Merijn Broeren | Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavour of life, Software Geek | take big bites. Moderation is for monks. |
Re: Technical Meeting Sponsorship
At Wed, 7 Feb 2001 17:49:17 +0100, Merijn Broeren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can jot me down for a personal sponsorship of £50. No way I can get a corporate sponsorship in time. Most kind. Thank you. Once again we see the awesome power of the Perl communities bottomless pockets :) I've had pledges of £120 and a promise of unlimited wealth from Jonathan Stowe, so I'm going to press ahead with the Conway Hall option. Cheers, Dave...
RE: Technical Meeting Sponsorship
At 14:24 06/02/2001, Clyne, Richard wrote: If it was at Conway Hall could PC Bookshop be persuaded to sponsor it - after all they are very local. That's a very interesting idea, but I think we have plenty of private sponsors to raise the money for the Conway Hall. Cheers, Dave... -- http://www.dave.org.uk SMS: [EMAIL PROTECTED] plugData Munging with Perl http://www.manning.com/cross//plug
Technical Meeting Sponsorship
I've been investigating places to hold Damian's meeting and I've already got some interesting leads (the Conway Hall looks like it might well work out!) The problem with moving from a room in someone's office to a 'real' meeting room is that we'll probably have to pay for it. I'm therefore touting for someone whose company might be interested in sponsoring the event. Costs of the rooms vary, but it might be a little as £150 or as much as £500. Any offers? I want to get this sorted out this week. Cheers, Dave...
Re: Technical Meeting Sponsorship
On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 07:29:53AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: I've been investigating places to hold Damian's meeting and I've already got some interesting leads (the Conway Hall looks like it might well work out!) Conway Hall would be a great venue, for the name alone! It can't be too expensive, because it's used by any number of fringe anarcho groups, who presumably don't have too much cash spilling around. .robin.
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At Tue, 6 Feb 2001 13:12:24 +, Robin Houston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 07:29:53AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: I've been investigating places to hold Damian's meeting and I've already got some interesting leads (the Conway Hall looks like it might well work out!) Conway Hall would be a great venue, for the name alone! It would be spectacularly appropriate :) It can't be too expensive, because it's used by any number of fringe anarcho groups, who presumably don't have too much cash spilling around. I can't remember exactly what the email I got from them said, but they were _far_ cheaper than the Commonwealth Institute (which I also investigated). There was a larger room for ~500 and a smaller one for ~70. I think the smaller one costs £155 for the evening. So that is looking pretty good to me right now. If I don't get any other volunteers I may consider making it a Magnum Solutions sponsored event (if it only costs £150!) Dave...
Re: Technical Meeting Sponsorship
Robin Houston [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 07:29:53AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: I've been investigating places to hold Damian's meeting and I've already got some interesting leads (the Conway Hall looks like it might well work out!) Conway Hall would be a great venue, for the name alone! It can't be too expensive, because it's used by any number of fringe anarcho groups, who presumably don't have too much cash spilling around. It would also be quite an interesting venue with a lot of character and Holborn is easy to get to (central and north of the river). -- 1024/D9C69DF9 steve mynott [EMAIL PROTECTED] same thing day after day - tube - work - diner - work - ...tube - armchair - tub
Re: Technical Meeting Sponsorship
On Tue, 6 Feb 2001, Robin Houston wrote: On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 07:29:53AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: I've been investigating places to hold Damian's meeting and I've already got some interesting leads (the Conway Hall looks like it might well work out!) Conway Hall would be a great venue, for the name alone! It can't be too expensive, because it's used by any number of fringe anarcho groups, who presumably don't have too much cash spilling around. Yeah, in the late seventies - early eighties you used to get bands the like of Crass and Crisis playing there (use Google you yoofs) I think it is (the hall that is ) thinged up with some religious group with strong socialist (in the general rather than party sense) political views ... /J\ -- Jonathan Stowe | http://www.gellyfish.com | I'm with Grep on this one http://www.tackleway.co.uk |
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On 6 Feb 2001, Piers Cawley wrote: It was Piers that started posting to the wrong list guv honest ... /J\ -- Jonathan Stowe | http://www.gellyfish.com | I'm with Grep on this one http://www.tackleway.co.uk |
Re: Technical Meeting Sponsorship
At 22:26 06/02/2001, Jonathan Stowe wrote: Oi! Davorg! stop posting to the wrong list and confusing everyone :) You're the third person to point this out to me - and it wasn't me who started it. The culprit has been identified and told off :) Dave... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ICQ: 34465585] London Perl M[ou]ngers: http://london.pm.org Sybase Contractors Resource Page: http://www.mag-sol.com/Sybase/ Agency Rating System: http://www.mag-sol.com/ARS/
Re: Technical Meeting Sponsorship
Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 22:26 06/02/2001, Jonathan Stowe wrote: Oi! Davorg! stop posting to the wrong list and confusing everyone :) You're the third person to point this out to me - and it wasn't me who started it. The culprit has been identified and told off :) I'm very, very sorry. -- Piers
Re: Technical Meeting Venues
Matthew Jones wrote: So how do That.pm feel about some northern tyke scuttling down to join you for the odd beer and tech meeting on a sort of semi-regular basis? For the love of God NO! Every time you're down in This I end up the next morning feeling fragile wearing nothing but a traffic cone and a policwoman's helmet ;)
Re: Technical Meeting Venues
Mark Fowler wrote: [2] Bath.pm roots showing. We used to discuss a fair amount of technical (but not necessary perl related) stuff. From this, I quickly progressed into the well rounded perl programmer I am today Is that "well rounded perl programmer" in the sense that "grep is well rounded"? g,drvvf Cheers, Philip
RE: Technical Meeting Venues
Speaking from a personal standpoint, I really enjoy the technical meetings and think more of them would be really beneficial[2]. I think they represent a lot of what we are us to and show that we're all not just talk 'n booze. Hence I'm anxious to see them succeed. I'd like to be able to attend your technical meetings, since compared to the majority of you lot I'm pretty green, having only been using perl for just over eighteen months. And this: Bath.pm roots showing. We used to discuss a fair amount of technical (but not necessary perl related) stuff. From this, I quickly progressed into the well rounded perl programmer I am today[3] Works for me as a testimonial to *.pm tech meetings. Tech meetings good. Learning things from sharp people good. So how do That.pm feel about some northern tyke scuttling down to join you for the odd beer and tech meeting on a sort of semi-regular basis? -- matt
RE: Technical Meeting Venues
At Mon, 29 Jan 2001 14:27:41 -, Matthew Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So how do That.pm feel about some northern tyke scuttling down to join you for the odd beer and tech meeting on a sort of semi-regular basis? We'd be very happy for you to come along whenever you wanted to. Dave...
Re: Technical Meeting Venues
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 02:41:38PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: i assume odd beer is a typo and you mean't odd beers, i.e. an odd number of beers ( i've also decided that 1 is not an odd number ) seriously, i'm sure everyone would welcome you with open arms We are perl. you will be assimiliated. Michael
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On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 02:28:07PM +, David Cantrell wrote: On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 02:27:41PM -, Matthew Jones wrote: So how do That.pm feel about some northern tyke scuttling down to join you for the odd beer and tech meeting on a sort of semi-regular basis? You will, of course, be assimilated and ultimately move to That London. Just like that northern tyke Mr. Clamp did. Northern, why I oughta! I'm from Birmingham damnit[0], which though north of the M25, is nowhere near as grim as proper up north. [0] It's full name being 'Birmingham - damnit, now how do I get through this sodding one way system' -- Richard Clamp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 02:54:26PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: the minute i cross the river, i can feel grimness coming upon me And they all talk funny. North of the river they're all called Hamish and Angus, and they wear flat caps and have whippets. Greg (who was surfing for flats in balham this weekend and spotted one on dave's road ;-) ) You don't want to live there then. Slum landlords and all that. -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced
Re: Technical Meeting Venues
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And they all talk funny. North of the river they're all called Hamish and Angus, and they wear flat caps and have whippets. 'eyup! My uncle used to race greyhounds and whippets (and pigeons!) and I have a flat cap. But I don't talk funny, and I'm not called Hamish. -- rob partington % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://lynx.browser.org/
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the minute i cross the river, i can feel grimness coming upon me And they all talk funny. North of the river they're all called Hamish and Angus, and they wear flat caps and have whippets. Eeeh, lad, 'appen tha's f'gottent' pigeon-fancying[1] and breakfasts consisting entirely of clotted blood wrapped up in guts. Mind you, as I've said elsewhere, the beer's *dead* cheap, and properly-made. Which is why I tend to drink fizzy lager in That, because I've yet to find a rub-a-dub that serves a decent pint of Real Ale[0]. Like Old Eli or Enoch's Hammer from the Sair Inn[2]. -- matt [0]Of course there's no ulterior motive for me wanting to come to That.pm meetings ... [1] Well done, Rob. [2] http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/6006/sair.htm
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* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: At Mon, 29 Jan 2001 14:54:26 +, Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the minute i cross the river, i can feel grimness coming upon me AOL/ One of the big plus points for this jobs was that it was on the right (i.e. south) side of the river. Greg (who was surfing for flats in balham this weekend and spotted one on dave's road ;-) ) Do you know what number it was? it doesnt say on the main website and the links down to the fuller detail picture its being let my sheraton law if thats any help just think of the sitcom possibilities if i lived above you Dave? heh? heh? ;-) ;-) greg -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
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Matthew Jones wrote: Dave is sitting in his living room, leafing through his back issues of "Canned Food and Preserved Rations Monthly". Wrong Dave. More like "Dave is lounging casually in his Chippendale, stroking his gold plated cat and having his feet massaged by a minion. Another lackey is reading aloud from the latest issue of 'Being rich monthly' but Dave halts him with a flick of his bejewelled hand sends him scurrying away, tugging his forelock as he backs out of the room, hi-salamming as he goes. He is just musing whether or not to go riding in his Zeppelin throwing gold coins to the supplicating paupers below when Greg walks in ..."
Re: Technical Meeting Venues
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 02:28:07PM +, David Cantrell wrote: On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 02:27:41PM -, Matthew Jones wrote: So how do That.pm feel about some northern tyke scuttling down to join you for the odd beer and tech meeting on a sort of semi-regular basis? You will, of course, be assimilated and ultimately move to That London. Or California like some London.pm'ers. Great weather, AND you don't have to get up in at four in t'morning t'lick road clean. (They have illegally present Mexicans for that.) Paul
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On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 08:57:00PM +, Chris Benson wrote: On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 02:48:33PM +, Richard Clamp wrote: I'm from Birmingham damnit[0], which though north of the M25, is nowhere near as grim as proper up north. Oi! where you calling grim http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/maps/britain.gif So there. -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced
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On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, dcross - David Cross wrote: From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 January 2001 15:34 just think of the sitcom possibilities if i lived above you Dave? heh? heh? ;-) ;-) Bit tricky that. What with us living in a house and all that. We have seagulls on our roof, perhaps grep meant to be building a nest on your chimney ? /J\ -- Jonathan Stowe | http://www.gellyfish.com | I'm with Grep on this one http://www.tackleway.co.uk |
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* Jonathan Stowe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, dcross - David Cross wrote: From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 January 2001 15:34 just think of the sitcom possibilities if i lived above you Dave? heh? heh? ;-) ;-) Bit tricky that. What with us living in a house and all that. We have seagulls on our roof, perhaps grep meant to be building a nest on your chimney ? ok scratch that, the idea for the sitcom is i'm the lodger, dave had to rent out his flat because he needed the cash --- err no, thats a bit too far fetched even for a sitcom -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
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* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Doesn't bi-monthly mean every tw months? yes, and if there is any doubt, i recommend looking up ``bi'' on your favourite search engine ;-) -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: Technical Meeting Venues
At 23:11 26/01/01, you wrote: On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Dave Cross wrote: How do people feel about going back to State51? Does someone want to contact the ICA? Hmm. No one seems to have replied to this[1]. [1] ? I have replied to this, off list, because the preferences I expressed were personal and medical... ;-) Natalie
Technical Meeting Venues
I'm still looking for suggestions for venues for the next two technical meetings (Feb 22 26). How do people feel about going back to State51? Does someone want to contact the ICA? Any other suggestions? Dave...
Re: Technical Meeting Agenda
Venue: State 51 (full details - and a map? - to follow) State51 is in a disused foam factory at 8-10 rhoda street, bethnal green, near the junction of brick lane and bethnal green road. http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=533817Y=182479A=YZ=1 tube shoreditch (but closes early), bethnal green 10 mins, liverpool street 15 mins, old street 15 mins, number 8 bus (victoria-tcr-holborn-bank-here) right outside. there's a big iron gate with 'state51' painted on it. go in and at the far end is a metal staircase. we're at the top. we may be slightly short of chairs. it may be a little chilly. We'll start with four or five lightning talks. Currently I've only got Robin talking about Oulipo, but I'm sure we can come up with a couple more between us. i could do 5 mins on what fun it is to build a perl jobs database with tangram and template toolkit. (it's in testing atm) if you like. jo
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i could do 5 mins on what fun it is to build a perl jobs database with tangram and template toolkit. (it's in testing atm) if you like. That would be cool. Do you want to publicise the URL or is it a Big Secret? i will do that when it is not not quite finished. like what it is now :) jo
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dcross - David Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Jo Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 January 2001 12:18 Venue: State 51 (full details - and a map? - to follow) State51 is in a disused foam factory at 8-10 rhoda street, bethnal green,near the junction of brick lane and bethnal green road. http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=533817Y=182479A=YZ=1 tube shoreditch (but closes early), bethnal green 10 mins, liverpool street 15 mins, old street 15 mins, number 8 bus (victoria-tcr-holborn-bank-here) right outside. there's a big iron gate with 'state51' painted on it. go in and at the far end is a metal staircase. we're at the top. we may be slightly short of chairs. it may be a little chilly. Excellent. Thanks for that. We'll start with four or five lightning talks. Currently I've only got Robin talking about Oulipo, but I'm sure we can come up with a couple more between us. i could do 5 mins on what fun it is to build a perl jobs database with tangram and template toolkit. (it's in testing atm) if you like. That would be cool. Do you want to publicise the URL or is it a Big Secret? If I make it I can do 5 minutes on Class::Decorator and the art of monkeying with Perl's inheritance and OO dispatch mechanisms... -- Piers
Re: Technical Meeting Agenda
Dave Cross sent the following bits through the ether: We'll start with four or five lightning talks. Currently I've only got Robin talking about Oulipo, but I'm sure we can come up with a couple more between us. I'd like to do: "What my Perl Monger World Map Lightning Talk at yapc::Europe should have been". Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ yapc::Europehttp://yapc.org/Europe/ ... All new improved Brocard, now with Template Toolkit!
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* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: XML::Schema - Andy can we finish this with some sort of SIG meeting on XML::Scheme seeing as its all just ideas in the fevoured mind of Mr Wardley so far, i'm sure there are the usual suspect who'd like to vent their own opinions Hopefully it'll all be over by 9:30 and we can all bugger off to the nearest hostelry. ack, if i'm going to speak i'll have to allow myself a one beer ration -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: Technical Meeting
On Jan 5, 1:35pm, Neil Ford wrote: Double dose of Andy Alex (abw get's to drink cold beer) More Andy Piers to close. That's OK by me, but I don't want to trample over anyone else who'd like to speak. How about I do a 20 minute session on Pod::POM and TT views, take a break while Alex talks, and then do another 20 minutes on XML::Schema? The first session gives a nice and gentle introduction to the concept of schemas, models and views within the pragmatic context of munging POD. It will contain some real code, real modules and real examples. The second session is likely to be more ethereal, looking deeper at the concept of schemas and the extremely cool things we'll be able to do just as soon as I/we get around to writing an XML::Schema module for Perl (which may, but more likely may not, have happened by then). There may not be much real code to show, but definately some jaw-dropping and/or head-scratching ideas. If you're not sick of the sight and sound of me by then, and iff there's space left with no-one who wants to fill it, then I can do a lighting talk (or longer) on Camelot. This is still very much an experiment with not a lot to show for it, but I'd like a chance to feed some of the ideas into peoples' heads to see what they make of it. In the mean time, interested parties can look at http://www.tt2.org/camelot/ . A -- Andy Wardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Signature regenerating. Please remain seated. [EMAIL PROTECTED] For a good time: http://www.kfs.org/~abw/
Re: Technical Meeting
On or about Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 12:07:01AM +, alex typed: [better instructions soon, but it takes up most of rhoda street, bethnal green, nearest tubes are old street, shoreditch, liverpool street and bethnal green, or closest of all, bus route number 8] Oh dear oh dear oh dear... that's about five minutes' walk from where I'm working... expect a large Torrington contingent if I can persuade them. Roger
Re: Technical Meeting
On Jan 4, 10:18pm, Dave Cross wrote: As always I'm looking for volunteers to speak at the meeting. If you've got anything really cool[1] to tell us about then please let me know. Take your pick: Template Toolkit Views A new and icy cold metaphor for the Template Toolkit which makes hard things easy and defrosted things frozen solid. Assumes (but probably doesn't rely on) some TT knowledge. Camelot An experimental Web Application Framework which makes (most) other so-called "Web Application Frameworks" look like a really silly idea. Br! That's chilly. Pod::POM The POD Object Model. This makes translation of POD to other formats so simple that even your grandmother could do it, and we all know how much trouble she has working the toaster. Yowser, it's cold in here! Did someone leave the freezer door open? XML::Schema XML::Schema will rule the world! This is still in the planning / development phase, but it promises to kick bottom really hard. Create a schema to describe your data and then sit back and let the camel take over. The XML::Schema module should allow you to build schema-specific parsers, (de-)marshalling code to convert XML schema instances to/from objects, XML/SQL interfaces, and other cool stuff like that. Hey, is that frost on the keyboard? Dear Santa How to write your christmas thank-you letters using the Template Toolkit. Silly, but chilly lighting talk. A -- Andy Wardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Signature regenerating. Please remain seated. [EMAIL PROTECTED] For a good time: http://www.kfs.org/~abw/
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* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: As always I'm looking for volunteers to speak at the meeting. If you've got anything really cool[1] to tell us about then please let me know. i can do 20 minutes on SOAP (not 20 mins squeezed into 5) ;-) -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: Technical Meeting
On Jan 4, 10:18pm, Dave Cross wrote: As always I'm looking for volunteers to speak at the meeting. If you've got anything really cool[1] to tell us about then please let me know. Take your pick: Template Toolkit Views A new and icy cold metaphor for the Template Toolkit which makes hard things easy and defrosted things frozen solid. Assumes (but probably doesn't rely on) some TT knowledge. Camelot An experimental Web Application Framework which makes (most) other so-called "Web Application Frameworks" look like a really silly idea. Br! That's chilly. Pod::POM The POD Object Model. This makes translation of POD to other formats so simple that even your grandmother could do it, and we all know how much trouble she has working the toaster. Yowser, it's cold in here! Did someone leave the freezer door open? XML::Schema XML::Schema will rule the world! This is still in the planning / development phase, but it promises to kick bottom really hard. Create a schema to describe your data and then sit back and let the camel take over. The XML::Schema module should allow you to build schema-specific parsers, (de-)marshalling code to convert XML schema instances to/from objects, XML/SQL interfaces, and other cool stuff like that. Hey, is that frost on the keyboard? Dear Santa How to write your christmas thank-you letters using the Template Toolkit. Silly, but chilly lighting talk. A Ummm. the lot :-) Save having to swap laptops with the projector and Dave wouldn't have to time the lightening talks. Top it off with another 12 steps session from Piers and were sorted. Neil. -- Neil C. Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.binky.ourshack.org
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On Jan 5, 11:46am, Neil Ford wrote: Save having to swap laptops with the projector and Dave wouldn't have to time the lightening talks. But then when would I get to drink cold beer? :-) A -- Andy Wardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Signature regenerating. Please remain seated. [EMAIL PROTECTED] For a good time: http://www.kfs.org/~abw/
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On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 12:21:14PM -, Dean S Wilson wrote: -Original Message- XML::Schema XML::Schema will rule the world XML::Schema gets my vote Mine too. -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david The voices said it's a good day to clean my weapons.
