Re: slow cursor speed

[Stephan Witt]

Am 15.11.2023 um 11:45 schrieb Isaac Oscar Gariano :
> 
> Sorry for randomly chiming in,
> But I noticed your version of LyX is using Qt5, I wonder if a QT6 version 
> would behave differently?

There is an unsolved issue with Qt6 on macOS.
https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/12641

Stephan

> 
> (Unfortunately, I'm not a Mac person, so I don't know how to compile such a 
> lyx)
> 
> — Isaac Oscar Gariano
> From: lyx-users  on behalf of Tim Garrett 
> 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2023 5:00:31 AM
> To: Scott Kostyshak 
> Cc: LyX-Users 
> Subject: Re: slow cursor speed
>  
> Hi Scott,
> 
> Saving and reopening doesn’t change anything in behavior.
> 
> Version 2.4.0~beta5 (August 31, 2023)
> Qt Version (run-time): 5.15.10 on platform cocoa
> Qt Version (compile-time): 5.15.10
> OS Version (run-time): macOS 12.4
> Python detected: python3 -tt
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Tim
> 
> On 14 Nov 2023, at 8:47, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 08:38:54AM -0700, Tim Garrett wrote:
> >> Hi Scott,
> >>
> >> Here’s a video showing how it slows down
> >> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/jtfm92l11orb9254xsz5z/Screen-Recording-2023-11-14-at-7.50.08-AM.mov?rlkey=fzk7aaycqabgul55ipun4ste5=0
> >>
> >> I don’t experience this issue on any other application, including Word or 
> >> Overleaf.
> >>
> >> Thanks again
> >>
> >> Tim
> >
> > Thanks, that screencast is very helpful.
> >
> > Another follow-up question. If you save the document and reopen it, then
> > are things faster (at the beginning before the problem is triggered
> > again)? I'm trying to figure out whether the problem is due to the
> > number of characters you've typed versus the number of characters
> > present in the document.
> >
> > Also, can you copy/paste the information in LyX > About ?
> >
> > Scott
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Re: Python (was Shortcuts under MacOs Sonoma)

[Stephan Witt]

Am 09.11.2023 um 11:24 schrieb Isaac Oscar Gariano :
> 
> Interestingly I've never had this problem on windows as LyX comes with a 
> python in it's installation directory.

Hi Isaac,

Python was an integral component of macOS for ages. Therefore no need to bundle 
it with LyX. In general is the distribution of 3rd party software inside the 
bundle debatable.

> Perhaps the MacOS version should do the same, or at the very least give a 
> very clear error message.

The new LyX version 2.4 has implemented this „feature“.

BR, Stephan

> It might be worth opening a bug report for this. (I've also had LyX tell me 
> it can't find the a LaTeX class, when I definitely had LaTeX installed 
> properly; I can't remember what the cause of it was though, probably my fault 
> for not building LyX properly).
> — Isaac Oscar Gariano​
> From: lyx-users  on behalf of Daniel CLEMENT 
> via lyx-users 
> Sent: Thursday, 9 November 2023 11:13 PM
> To: Dr Eberhard W Lisse 
> Cc: LyX 
> Subject: Re: Python (was Shortcuts under MacOs Sonoma)
>  
> Yes, I had seen this thread and I had reviewed it.
> 
> What I didn’t expect, was that the upgrade would suppress something!
> 
> I don’t know how Python was present before the upgrade (builtin?) However, I 
> have installed the Python3 pkg from the official Python website before I 
> could read your advice.
> 
> Let’s see if that persists across the next upgrades!
> 
> BR - Daniel
> 
> > Le 8 nov. 2023 à 19:16, Dr Eberhard W Lisse  a écrit :
> > 
> > This has been discussed here a number of times in the not so
> > distant past.
> > 
> > I think you need to install the X-Code command line tools to
> > get /usr/bin/python3 again but I use Homebrew's python and
> > that survives OS Upgrades.
> > 
> > greetings, el
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 07/11/2023 15:12, Daniel CLEMENT via lyx-users wrote:
> >> Thanks for your reply Isaac.
> >> 
> >> The user directory is: ~/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.3/ 
> >> 
> >> That sounded correct. 
> >> 
> >> So I investigated a bit more on the Python side.  It was
> >> definitely a Python issue.
> >> 
> >> I still can hardly believe it, but it seems that the upgrade
> >> had completely stripped my system of any Python.  I
> >> (re)installed it from the official site, and all the LyX
> >> shortcuts got working again.  And the reconfigure function,
> >> too.
> >> 
> >> So, problem solved for now. BR, Daniel
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Re: Laggy cursor

[Stephan Witt]

Am 11.08.2023 um 17:09 schrieb Tim Garrett :
> 
> Stephan,
> 
> Unfortunately I spoke too soon. There was improvement, then it slowed to a 
> crawl again. Worse than before if anything. The speed of the cursor is still 
> inversely related to the length of the paragraph.

Frankly, I’m not surprised. I wanted to help to get a working python setup. The 
speed issue isn’t related to python at all, IMHO. 

Interestingly you didn’t have the problem for a short time. The question is: 
what was changed in that moment.

To get the speed issue solved perhaps you verify the load of your system and 
watch the running processes with Activity Monitor. Another option is to 
diagnose your system with e.g. Etrecheck.

Stephan

> 
> Here’s what I have:
> (base) tgarrett@tims-mbp ~ % python3 -V
> Python 3.11.4
> (base) tgarrett@tims-mbp ~ % which python3
> /usr/local/bin/python3
> 
> For the PATH prefix in preferences:
> 
> /Library/TeX/texbin:/usr/texbin:/sw/bin:/sw/sbin:/opt/local/teTeX/bin:/opt/local/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin
> 
> 
> Tim
> 
> On 10 Aug 2023, at 5:27, Stephan Witt wrote:
> 
>> Am 10.08.2023 um 07:11 schrieb Tim Garrett :
>>> 
>>> Thanks. Not sure I did it right, but this is what I did. Added that string 
>>> to the PATH as follows
>>> 
>>> /Library/TeX/texbin:/usr/texbin:/sw/bin:/sw/sbin:/opt/local/teTeX/bin:/opt/local/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/Users/tgarrett/opt/anaconda3/bin
>> 
>> What about adding /Users/tgarrett/opt/anaconda3/condabin ?
>> 
>> You didn’t answer my question. What source and installation type did you 
>> choose to get? I presume you didn’t use the python from python.org but from 
>> anaconda.com. And I presume you’ve selected the option to install it for 
>> your user only. This setup I wont test for you and I recommend to switch to 
>> an installation for all users (aka on a specific disk). I don’t know if it 
>> work for you.
>> 
>> Stephan
>> 
>>> quit, restarted, reconfigured. Still get the same error message:
>>> 
>>> The layout file:
>>> article could not be found. A default textclass with default layouts will 
>>> be used. LyX will not be able to produce
>>> correct output.
>>> 
>>> On 9 Aug 2023, at 23:02, Stephan Witt wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Am 10.08.2023 um 01:56 schrieb Tim Garrett :
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sorry for the confusion but thanks for the help. I have Python 3.8.5 as 
>>>>> output from python -V
>>>>> 
>>>>> Also:
>>>>> 
>>>>> (base) tgarrett@tims-mbp ~ % which python3
>>>>> /Users/tgarrett/opt/anaconda3/bin/python3
>>>>> (base) tgarrett@tims-mbp ~ % python3
>>>>> Python 3.8.5 (default, Sep  4 2020, 02:22:02)
>>>>> [Clang 10.0.0 ] :: Anaconda, Inc. on darwin
>>>>> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>> (base) tgarrett@tims-mbp ~ % echo $PATH
>>>>> /Users/tgarrett/opt/anaconda3/bin:/Users/tgarrett/opt/anaconda3/condabin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/Library/TeX/texbin
>>>> 
>>>> Every program started by the launch service will not have this PATH 
>>>> setting. That’s the case when you start LyX from the Dock or Finder. You 
>>>> have to add /Users/tgarrett/opt/anaconda3/bin to the PATH prefix in LyX. 
>>>> (Perhaps /Users/tgarrett/opt/anaconda3/condabin is required too.)
>>>> 
>>>> Did you install the python package from python.org? Last time I’ve tested 
>>>> it this addition wasn’t needed.
>>>> 
>>>> Stephan
>>>> 
>>>>> On 9 Aug 2023, at 17:09, Stephan Witt wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am 10.08.2023 um 00:15 schrieb Tim Garrett :
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sorry, it’s what I sent earlier:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sorry, but no, it isn’t.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That’s the output of the command w/o -V … but anyway. Where is your 
>>>>>> python3 installed? Perhaps LyX cannot find it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Stephan
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Python 3.8.5 (default, Sep  4 2020, 02:22:02)
>>>>>>> [Clang 10.0.0 ] :: Anaconda, Inc. on darwin
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 9 Aug 2023, at 15:49, Stephan Witt wrote:
>

Re: Laggy cursor

[Stephan Witt]

Am 10.08.2023 um 07:11 schrieb Tim Garrett :
> 
> Thanks. Not sure I did it right, but this is what I did. Added that string to 
> the PATH as follows
> 
> /Library/TeX/texbin:/usr/texbin:/sw/bin:/sw/sbin:/opt/local/teTeX/bin:/opt/local/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/Users/tgarrett/opt/anaconda3/bin

What about adding /Users/tgarrett/opt/anaconda3/condabin ?

You didn’t answer my question. What source and installation type did you choose 
to get? I presume you didn’t use the python from python.org but from 
anaconda.com. And I presume you’ve selected the option to install it for your 
user only. This setup I wont test for you and I recommend to switch to an 
installation for all users (aka on a specific disk). I don’t know if it work 
for you.

Stephan

> quit, restarted, reconfigured. Still get the same error message:
> 
> The layout file:
> article could not be found. A default textclass with default layouts will be 
> used. LyX will not be able to produce
> correct output.
> 
> On 9 Aug 2023, at 23:02, Stephan Witt wrote:
> 
>> Am 10.08.2023 um 01:56 schrieb Tim Garrett :
>>> 
>>> Sorry for the confusion but thanks for the help. I have Python 3.8.5 as 
>>> output from python -V
>>> 
>>> Also:
>>> 
>>> (base) tgarrett@tims-mbp ~ % which python3
>>> /Users/tgarrett/opt/anaconda3/bin/python3
>>> (base) tgarrett@tims-mbp ~ % python3
>>> Python 3.8.5 (default, Sep  4 2020, 02:22:02)
>>> [Clang 10.0.0 ] :: Anaconda, Inc. on darwin
>>> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>>>>> 
>>> (base) tgarrett@tims-mbp ~ % echo $PATH
>>> /Users/tgarrett/opt/anaconda3/bin:/Users/tgarrett/opt/anaconda3/condabin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/Library/TeX/texbin
>> 
>> Every program started by the launch service will not have this PATH setting. 
>> That’s the case when you start LyX from the Dock or Finder. You have to add 
>> /Users/tgarrett/opt/anaconda3/bin to the PATH prefix in LyX. (Perhaps 
>> /Users/tgarrett/opt/anaconda3/condabin is required too.)
>> 
>> Did you install the python package from python.org? Last time I’ve tested it 
>> this addition wasn’t needed.
>> 
>> Stephan
>> 
>>> On 9 Aug 2023, at 17:09, Stephan Witt wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Am 10.08.2023 um 00:15 schrieb Tim Garrett :
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sorry, it’s what I sent earlier:
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry, but no, it isn’t.
>>>> 
>>>> That’s the output of the command w/o -V … but anyway. Where is your 
>>>> python3 installed? Perhaps LyX cannot find it.
>>>> 
>>>> Stephan
>>>> 
>>>>> Python 3.8.5 (default, Sep  4 2020, 02:22:02)
>>>>> [Clang 10.0.0 ] :: Anaconda, Inc. on darwin
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 9 Aug 2023, at 15:49, Stephan Witt wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am 09.08.2023 um 23:47 schrieb Stephan Witt :
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Am 09.08.2023 um 21:41 schrieb Tim Garrett :
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 13:40:10.630: Reloading configuration...LyX: reconfiguring user 
>>>>>>>> directory
>>>>>>>> support/Systemcall.cpp (261): Systemcall: 'python -tt 
>>>>>>>> "/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/configure.py" 
>>>>>>>> --with-version-suffix=-2.3 
>>>>>>>> --binary-dir="/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/MacOS/"' did not start!
>>>>>>>> support/Systemcall.cpp (262): error The process failed to start. 
>>>>>>>> Either the invoked program is missing, or you may have insufficient 
>>>>>>>> permissions to invoke the program.
>>>>>>>> LyX: Done!
>>>>>>>> 13:40:14.373: (reconfigure)Warning: Cite Engine not available
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Please, what happens on invoke of
>>>>>>> $ python -V
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ???
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> … and
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> $ which python3
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 9 Aug 2023, at 13:13, Stephan Witt wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Am 09.08.2023 um 20:20 schrieb Tim Garrett :
>>>>>>>

Re: Laggy cursor

[Stephan Witt]

Am 10.08.2023 um 01:56 schrieb Tim Garrett :
> 
> Sorry for the confusion but thanks for the help. I have Python 3.8.5 as 
> output from python -V
> 
> Also:
> 
> (base) tgarrett@tims-mbp ~ % which python3
> /Users/tgarrett/opt/anaconda3/bin/python3
> (base) tgarrett@tims-mbp ~ % python3
> Python 3.8.5 (default, Sep  4 2020, 02:22:02)
> [Clang 10.0.0 ] :: Anaconda, Inc. on darwin
> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>>> 
> (base) tgarrett@tims-mbp ~ % echo $PATH
> /Users/tgarrett/opt/anaconda3/bin:/Users/tgarrett/opt/anaconda3/condabin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/Library/TeX/texbin

Every program started by the launch service will not have this PATH setting. 
That’s the case when you start LyX from the Dock or Finder. You have to add 
/Users/tgarrett/opt/anaconda3/bin to the PATH prefix in LyX. (Perhaps 
/Users/tgarrett/opt/anaconda3/condabin is required too.)

Did you install the python package from python.org? Last time I’ve tested it 
this addition wasn’t needed.

Stephan

> On 9 Aug 2023, at 17:09, Stephan Witt wrote:
> 
>> Am 10.08.2023 um 00:15 schrieb Tim Garrett :
>>> 
>>> Sorry, it’s what I sent earlier:
>> 
>> Sorry, but no, it isn’t.
>> 
>> That’s the output of the command w/o -V … but anyway. Where is your python3 
>> installed? Perhaps LyX cannot find it.
>> 
>> Stephan
>> 
>>> Python 3.8.5 (default, Sep  4 2020, 02:22:02)
>>> [Clang 10.0.0 ] :: Anaconda, Inc. on darwin
>>> 
>>> On 9 Aug 2023, at 15:49, Stephan Witt wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Am 09.08.2023 um 23:47 schrieb Stephan Witt :
>>>>> 
>>>>> Am 09.08.2023 um 21:41 schrieb Tim Garrett :
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 13:40:10.630: Reloading configuration...LyX: reconfiguring user directory
>>>>>> support/Systemcall.cpp (261): Systemcall: 'python -tt 
>>>>>> "/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/configure.py" 
>>>>>> --with-version-suffix=-2.3 
>>>>>> --binary-dir="/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/MacOS/"' did not start!
>>>>>> support/Systemcall.cpp (262): error The process failed to start. Either 
>>>>>> the invoked program is missing, or you may have insufficient permissions 
>>>>>> to invoke the program.
>>>>>> LyX: Done!
>>>>>> 13:40:14.373: (reconfigure)Warning: Cite Engine not available
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please, what happens on invoke of
>>>>> $ python -V
>>>>> 
>>>>> ???
>>>> 
>>>> … and
>>>> 
>>>> $ which python3
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 9 Aug 2023, at 13:13, Stephan Witt wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Am 09.08.2023 um 20:20 schrieb Tim Garrett :
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks for the response!
>>>>>>>> I have this so perhaps something else?:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yes, maybe something else.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Please, enable file and info messages in messages pane. Rerun 
>>>>>>> reconfigure and present the output here.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Stephan
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 9 Aug 2023, at 12:01, Stephan Witt wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Am 09.08.2023 um 18:50 schrieb Tim Garrett :
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> This may have worked!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> But in a reconfigure request problem. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sorry, should know what to do next but it’s been a while. Multiple 
>>>>>>>> reconfigures doesn’t fix the problem.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Perhaps you’re on macOS w/o python utility. What’s your OS version?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> LyX 2.3.6.2 expects a working python installation which was gone since 
>>>>>>>> macOS 12.3.1. Newer versions of LyX will give a proper hint.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You may install python3 from here: 
>>>>>>>> https://www.python.org/downloads/macos/
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>

Re: Laggy cursor

[Stephan Witt]

Am 10.08.2023 um 00:15 schrieb Tim Garrett :
> 
> Sorry, it’s what I sent earlier:

Sorry, but no, it isn’t.

That’s the output of the command w/o -V … but anyway. Where is your python3 
installed? Perhaps LyX cannot find it.

Stephan

> Python 3.8.5 (default, Sep  4 2020, 02:22:02)
> [Clang 10.0.0 ] :: Anaconda, Inc. on darwin
> 
> On 9 Aug 2023, at 15:49, Stephan Witt wrote:
> 
>> Am 09.08.2023 um 23:47 schrieb Stephan Witt :
>>> 
>>> Am 09.08.2023 um 21:41 schrieb Tim Garrett :
>>>> 
>>>> 13:40:10.630: Reloading configuration...LyX: reconfiguring user directory
>>>> support/Systemcall.cpp (261): Systemcall: 'python -tt 
>>>> "/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/configure.py" 
>>>> --with-version-suffix=-2.3 
>>>> --binary-dir="/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/MacOS/"' did not start!
>>>> support/Systemcall.cpp (262): error The process failed to start. Either 
>>>> the invoked program is missing, or you may have insufficient permissions 
>>>> to invoke the program.
>>>> LyX: Done!
>>>> 13:40:14.373: (reconfigure)Warning: Cite Engine not available
>>> 
>>> Please, what happens on invoke of
>>> $ python -V
>>> 
>>> ???
>> 
>> … and
>> 
>> $ which python3
>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 9 Aug 2023, at 13:13, Stephan Witt wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Am 09.08.2023 um 20:20 schrieb Tim Garrett :
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for the response!
>>>>>> I have this so perhaps something else?:
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, maybe something else.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please, enable file and info messages in messages pane. Rerun reconfigure 
>>>>> and present the output here.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Stephan
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 9 Aug 2023, at 12:01, Stephan Witt wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am 09.08.2023 um 18:50 schrieb Tim Garrett :
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This may have worked!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> But in a reconfigure request problem. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sorry, should know what to do next but it’s been a while. Multiple 
>>>>>> reconfigures doesn’t fix the problem.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Perhaps you’re on macOS w/o python utility. What’s your OS version?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> LyX 2.3.6.2 expects a working python installation which was gone since 
>>>>>> macOS 12.3.1. Newer versions of LyX will give a proper hint.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You may install python3 from here: 
>>>>>> https://www.python.org/downloads/macos/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Stephan
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 9 Aug 2023, at 10:09, Stephan Witt wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am 09.08.2023 um 18:02 schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck 
>>>>>> :
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 8/9/23 11:23, Tim Garrett wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’m wondering if there’s something like a factory reset I can do on the 
>>>>>> settings that is worth trying. Perhaps over the years I’ve adjusted the 
>>>>>> look and feel to something that is causing problems.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Move your user directory somewhere else, so a new one is generated.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On mac that would be:
>>>>>> - terminate LyX if actually running
>>>>>> - use in Finder „Go to Folder“ with the term „Library“ starting at your 
>>>>>> home directory
>>>>>> - open Application Support
>>>>>> - rename the folder LyX-2.3 to e.g. LyX-2.3-2023-08-09
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Stephan
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Or else launch LyX from the command line with something like:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> lyx -userdir /tmp/newuserdir/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> But I'd be surprised if anything there caused problems.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Riki
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 9 Aug 2023, at 4:31, Sco

Re: Laggy cursor

[Stephan Witt]

Am 09.08.2023 um 23:47 schrieb Stephan Witt :
> 
> Am 09.08.2023 um 21:41 schrieb Tim Garrett :
>> 
>> 13:40:10.630: Reloading configuration...LyX: reconfiguring user directory
>> support/Systemcall.cpp (261): Systemcall: 'python -tt 
>> "/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/configure.py" 
>> --with-version-suffix=-2.3 
>> --binary-dir="/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/MacOS/"' did not start!
>> support/Systemcall.cpp (262): error The process failed to start. Either the 
>> invoked program is missing, or you may have insufficient permissions to 
>> invoke the program.
>> LyX: Done!
>> 13:40:14.373: (reconfigure)Warning: Cite Engine not available
> 
> Please, what happens on invoke of
> $ python -V
> 
> ???

… and

$ which python3

> 
>> 
>> On 9 Aug 2023, at 13:13, Stephan Witt wrote:
>> 
>>> Am 09.08.2023 um 20:20 schrieb Tim Garrett :
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for the response!
>>>> I have this so perhaps something else?:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yes, maybe something else.
>>> 
>>> Please, enable file and info messages in messages pane. Rerun reconfigure 
>>> and present the output here.
>>> 
>>> Stephan
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 9 Aug 2023, at 12:01, Stephan Witt wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Am 09.08.2023 um 18:50 schrieb Tim Garrett :
>>>> 
>>>> This may have worked!
>>>> 
>>>> But in a reconfigure request problem. 
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry, should know what to do next but it’s been a while. Multiple 
>>>> reconfigures doesn’t fix the problem.
>>>> 
>>>> Perhaps you’re on macOS w/o python utility. What’s your OS version?
>>>> 
>>>> LyX 2.3.6.2 expects a working python installation which was gone since 
>>>> macOS 12.3.1. Newer versions of LyX will give a proper hint.
>>>> 
>>>> You may install python3 from here: https://www.python.org/downloads/macos/
>>>> 
>>>> Stephan
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> 
>>>> Tim
>>>> 
>>>> On 9 Aug 2023, at 10:09, Stephan Witt wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Am 09.08.2023 um 18:02 schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck :
>>>> 
>>>> On 8/9/23 11:23, Tim Garrett wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>> 
>>>> I’m wondering if there’s something like a factory reset I can do on the 
>>>> settings that is worth trying. Perhaps over the years I’ve adjusted the 
>>>> look and feel to something that is causing problems.
>>>> 
>>>> Move your user directory somewhere else, so a new one is generated.
>>>> 
>>>> On mac that would be:
>>>> - terminate LyX if actually running
>>>> - use in Finder „Go to Folder“ with the term „Library“ starting at your 
>>>> home directory
>>>> - open Application Support
>>>> - rename the folder LyX-2.3 to e.g. LyX-2.3-2023-08-09
>>>> 
>>>> Stephan
>>>> 
>>>> Or else launch LyX from the command line with something like:
>>>> 
>>>> lyx -userdir /tmp/newuserdir/
>>>> 
>>>> But I'd be surprised if anything there caused problems.
>>>> 
>>>> Riki
>>>> 
>>>> On 9 Aug 2023, at 4:31, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Aug 08, 2023 at 03:23:03PM -0600, Tim Garrett wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks again Scott for your response and thoughtful help. I attach the 
>>>> file. I updated LyX to 2.3.7. This has indeed only been a problem in the 
>>>> past couple of years. I’ve sort of tolerated it because I mostly 
>>>> collaborate now rather than writing myself — getting old and rusty. For 
>>>> collaborations I use Overleaf though I still prefer LyX.
>>>> 
>>>> In 2001, KLyX changed my life, but because of the top search result! E
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks, Tim. I can't reproduce with the file you sent so that at least 
>>>> rules out that theory that I had.
>>>> 
>>>> Unfortunately I'm not sure how to proceed.
>>>> 
>>>> Scott
>>>> 
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Re: Laggy cursor

[Stephan Witt]

Am 09.08.2023 um 21:41 schrieb Tim Garrett :
> 
> 13:40:10.630: Reloading configuration...LyX: reconfiguring user directory
> support/Systemcall.cpp (261): Systemcall: 'python -tt 
> "/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/configure.py" 
> --with-version-suffix=-2.3 
> --binary-dir="/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/MacOS/"' did not start!
> support/Systemcall.cpp (262): error The process failed to start. Either the 
> invoked program is missing, or you may have insufficient permissions to 
> invoke the program.
> LyX: Done!
> 13:40:14.373: (reconfigure)Warning: Cite Engine not available

Please, what happens on invoke of
$ python -V

???

> 
> On 9 Aug 2023, at 13:13, Stephan Witt wrote:
> 
>> Am 09.08.2023 um 20:20 schrieb Tim Garrett :
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the response!
>>> I have this so perhaps something else?:
>>> 
>> 
>> Yes, maybe something else.
>> 
>> Please, enable file and info messages in messages pane. Rerun reconfigure 
>> and present the output here.
>> 
>> Stephan
>> 
>>> 
>>> On 9 Aug 2023, at 12:01, Stephan Witt wrote:
>>> 
>>> Am 09.08.2023 um 18:50 schrieb Tim Garrett :
>>> 
>>> This may have worked!
>>> 
>>> But in a reconfigure request problem. 
>>> 
>>> Sorry, should know what to do next but it’s been a while. Multiple 
>>> reconfigures doesn’t fix the problem.
>>> 
>>> Perhaps you’re on macOS w/o python utility. What’s your OS version?
>>> 
>>> LyX 2.3.6.2 expects a working python installation which was gone since 
>>> macOS 12.3.1. Newer versions of LyX will give a proper hint.
>>> 
>>> You may install python3 from here: https://www.python.org/downloads/macos/
>>> 
>>> Stephan
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> 
>>> On 9 Aug 2023, at 10:09, Stephan Witt wrote:
>>> 
>>> Am 09.08.2023 um 18:02 schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck :
>>> 
>>> On 8/9/23 11:23, Tim Garrett wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Scott,
>>> 
>>> I’m wondering if there’s something like a factory reset I can do on the 
>>> settings that is worth trying. Perhaps over the years I’ve adjusted the 
>>> look and feel to something that is causing problems.
>>> 
>>> Move your user directory somewhere else, so a new one is generated.
>>> 
>>> On mac that would be:
>>> - terminate LyX if actually running
>>> - use in Finder „Go to Folder“ with the term „Library“ starting at your 
>>> home directory
>>> - open Application Support
>>> - rename the folder LyX-2.3 to e.g. LyX-2.3-2023-08-09
>>> 
>>> Stephan
>>> 
>>> Or else launch LyX from the command line with something like:
>>> 
>>> lyx -userdir /tmp/newuserdir/
>>> 
>>> But I'd be surprised if anything there caused problems.
>>> 
>>> Riki
>>> 
>>> On 9 Aug 2023, at 4:31, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Aug 08, 2023 at 03:23:03PM -0600, Tim Garrett wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks again Scott for your response and thoughtful help. I attach the 
>>> file. I updated LyX to 2.3.7. This has indeed only been a problem in the 
>>> past couple of years. I’ve sort of tolerated it because I mostly 
>>> collaborate now rather than writing myself — getting old and rusty. For 
>>> collaborations I use Overleaf though I still prefer LyX.
>>> 
>>> In 2001, KLyX changed my life, but because of the top search result! E
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Tim. I can't reproduce with the file you sent so that at least 
>>> rules out that theory that I had.
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately I'm not sure how to proceed.
>>> 
>>> Scott
>>> 
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>>> Professor of Philosophy
>>> Brown University
>>> 
>>> Pronouns: they/them/their
>>> 
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Re: Laggy cursor

[Stephan Witt]

Am 09.08.2023 um 20:20 schrieb Tim Garrett :
> 
> Thanks for the response!
> I have this so perhaps something else?:
> 

Yes, maybe something else.

Please, enable file and info messages in messages pane. Rerun reconfigure and 
present the output here.

Stephan

> 
> On 9 Aug 2023, at 12:01, Stephan Witt wrote:
> 
> Am 09.08.2023 um 18:50 schrieb Tim Garrett :
> 
> This may have worked!
> 
> But in a reconfigure request problem. 
> 
> Sorry, should know what to do next but it’s been a while. Multiple 
> reconfigures doesn’t fix the problem.
> 
> Perhaps you’re on macOS w/o python utility. What’s your OS version?
> 
> LyX 2.3.6.2 expects a working python installation which was gone since macOS 
> 12.3.1. Newer versions of LyX will give a proper hint.
> 
> You may install python3 from here: https://www.python.org/downloads/macos/
> 
> Stephan
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Tim
> 
> On 9 Aug 2023, at 10:09, Stephan Witt wrote:
> 
> Am 09.08.2023 um 18:02 schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck :
> 
> On 8/9/23 11:23, Tim Garrett wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> I’m wondering if there’s something like a factory reset I can do on the 
> settings that is worth trying. Perhaps over the years I’ve adjusted the look 
> and feel to something that is causing problems.
> 
> Move your user directory somewhere else, so a new one is generated.
> 
> On mac that would be: 
> - terminate LyX if actually running 
> - use in Finder „Go to Folder“ with the term „Library“ starting at your home 
> directory 
> - open Application Support 
> - rename the folder LyX-2.3 to e.g. LyX-2.3-2023-08-09
> 
> Stephan
> 
> Or else launch LyX from the command line with something like:
> 
> lyx -userdir /tmp/newuserdir/
> 
> But I'd be surprised if anything there caused problems.
> 
> Riki
> 
> On 9 Aug 2023, at 4:31, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Aug 08, 2023 at 03:23:03PM -0600, Tim Garrett wrote:
> 
> Thanks again Scott for your response and thoughtful help. I attach the file. 
> I updated LyX to 2.3.7. This has indeed only been a problem in the past 
> couple of years. I’ve sort of tolerated it because I mostly collaborate now 
> rather than writing myself — getting old and rusty. For collaborations I use 
> Overleaf though I still prefer LyX.
> 
> In 2001, KLyX changed my life, but because of the top search result! E
> 
> Thanks, Tim. I can't reproduce with the file you sent so that at least rules 
> out that theory that I had.
> 
> Unfortunately I'm not sure how to proceed.
> 
> Scott
> 
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> Brown University
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> Google Scholar: https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=QUKBG6EJ 
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Re: Laggy cursor

[Stephan Witt]

Am 09.08.2023 um 18:50 schrieb Tim Garrett :
> 
> This may have worked!
> 
> But in a reconfigure request problem. 
> 
> Sorry, should know what to do next but it’s been a while. Multiple 
> reconfigures doesn’t fix the problem.

Perhaps you’re on macOS w/o python utility. What’s your OS version?

LyX 2.3.6.2 expects a working python installation which was gone since macOS 
12.3.1. Newer versions of LyX will give a proper hint.

You may install python3 from here: https://www.python.org/downloads/macos/

Stephan

> 
> Thanks
> 
> Tim
> 
> On 9 Aug 2023, at 10:09, Stephan Witt wrote:
> 
> Am 09.08.2023 um 18:02 schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck :
> 
> On 8/9/23 11:23, Tim Garrett wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> I’m wondering if there’s something like a factory reset I can do on the 
> settings that is worth trying. Perhaps over the years I’ve adjusted the look 
> and feel to something that is causing problems.
> 
> Move your user directory somewhere else, so a new one is generated.
> 
> On mac that would be: 
> - terminate LyX if actually running 
> - use in Finder „Go to Folder“ with the term „Library“ starting at your home 
> directory 
> - open Application Support 
> - rename the folder LyX-2.3 to e.g. LyX-2.3-2023-08-09
> 
> Stephan
> 
> Or else launch LyX from the command line with something like:
> 
> lyx -userdir /tmp/newuserdir/
> 
> But I'd be surprised if anything there caused problems.
> 
> Riki
> 
> On 9 Aug 2023, at 4:31, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Aug 08, 2023 at 03:23:03PM -0600, Tim Garrett wrote:
> 
> Thanks again Scott for your response and thoughtful help. I attach the file. 
> I updated LyX to 2.3.7. This has indeed only been a problem in the past 
> couple of years. I’ve sort of tolerated it because I mostly collaborate now 
> rather than writing myself — getting old and rusty. For collaborations I use 
> Overleaf though I still prefer LyX.
> 
> In 2001, KLyX changed my life, but because of the top search result! E
> 
> Thanks, Tim. I can't reproduce with the file you sent so that at least rules 
> out that theory that I had.
> 
> Unfortunately I'm not sure how to proceed.
> 
> Scott
> 
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> Brown University
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> Amazon: http://amazon.com/author/richardgheckjr 
> Google Scholar: https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=QUKBG6EJ 
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Re: Laggy cursor

[Stephan Witt]

Am 09.08.2023 um 18:02 schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck :
> 
> On 8/9/23 11:23, Tim Garrett wrote:
>> Hi Scott,
>> 
>> I’m wondering if there’s something like a factory reset I can do on the 
>> settings that is worth trying. Perhaps over the years I’ve adjusted the look 
>> and feel to something that is causing problems.
> 
> Move your user directory somewhere else, so a new one is generated.

On mac that would be:
- terminate LyX if actually running
- use in Finder „Go to Folder“ with the term „Library“ starting at your home 
directory
- open Application Support
- rename the folder LyX-2.3 to e.g. LyX-2.3-2023-08-09

Stephan

> Or else launch LyX from the command line with something like:
> > lyx -userdir /tmp/newuserdir/
> 
> But I'd be surprised if anything there caused problems.
> 
> Riki
> 
> 
>> On 9 Aug 2023, at 4:31, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
>> 
>>> On Tue, Aug 08, 2023 at 03:23:03PM -0600, Tim Garrett wrote:
 Thanks again Scott for your response and thoughtful help. I attach the 
 file. I updated LyX to 2.3.7. This has indeed only been a problem in the 
 past couple of years. I’ve sort of tolerated it because I mostly 
 collaborate now rather than writing myself — getting old and rusty. For 
 collaborations I use Overleaf though I still prefer LyX.
 
 In 2001, KLyX changed my life, but because of the top search result! E
>>> Thanks, Tim. I can't reproduce with the file you sent so that at least 
>>> rules out that theory that I had.
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately I'm not sure how to proceed.
>>> 
>>> Scott
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
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> Brown University
> 
> Pronouns: they/them/their
> 
> Website: http://rkheck.frege.org/
> Blog:http://rikiheck.blogspot.com/
> Amazon:  http://amazon.com/author/richardgheckjr
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Re: Problems with insert Graphics on MacOS

[Stephan Witt]

Am 19.07.2023 um 10:05 schrieb markhsalmon :
> 
> This was an error I encountered nearly a year ago and reported about 9 months 
> ago I think- why couldn’t it be fixed in latest release??

The fix is 4 weeks old. There was no release since then.
 
> What can I do to help fix it??  Please!!

The next release will be with the fix for it.

Stephan

> The more you know, the more you realise how little you know
> 
>> On 18 Jul 2023, at 20:22, Pavel Sanda  wrote:
>> 
>> On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 09:37:23AM -0400, Stephen Buonopane wrote:
>>> I am not sure if the developers have a fix in the works. 
>> 
>> Hopefully will be fixed soon:
>> https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/12576
>> 
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Re: Backups are not written nearly as often as they should be

[Stephan Witt]

Am 21.06.2023 um 18:42 schrieb R. H. van der Gaag :
> 
> Hi all,
> I have LyX set up to make backups when saving and also make backups (the term 
> seems wrong for the automatic snapshots that these are) every two minutes. 
> But when I look at the directory those files are supposed to be written to, 
> there is a file there, but it not up to date, neither as an auto-saved 
> snapshot nor as duplicate (a backup proper) - it is older than it should be, 
> up to over an hour older sometimes. Am I overlooking something? I checked the 
> path, and went from using a Dropbox directory to using one on my SSD, but 
> results are the same. Before reporting this as a bug, I thought I should 
> mention this here. I am on LyX 2.3.7, on macOS 13.4, Apple Silicon chip. 

Hi,

I can confirm that LyX-2.3.x attempts to make backups every 5 minutes - even if 
I set the interval to one minute in preferences.

With LyX 2.4.x this is fixed.

In case nothing is changed there is no new backup written though.

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Re: Time stamp is off

[Stephan Witt]

Am 19.06.2023 um 21:30 schrieb R. H. van der Gaag :
> 
> On 19 Jun 2023, at 18:46, Richard Kimberly Heck  wrote:
>> 
>> On 6/19/23 09:36, R. H. van der Gaag wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for checking. Insert date gives the correct (Dutch) time here, too. 
>>> But the time stamps added to the LaTeX preview are always exactly two hours 
>>> behind. A riddle.
>> 
>> Two hours behind sounds like UCT (GMT). European time is one hour ahead but 
>> then another hour for daylight savings. I suspect that your system clock is 
>> set for UCT, which is what LaTeX is picking up.
>> 
>> I've had similar problems on a Windows system.
> 
> My macOS preferences say "Central European Summer Time" and in the terminal I 
> get
> 
> rh@iMac ~ % date
> Mon Jun 19 21:27:10 CEST 2023
> 
> It remains a mystery, then, where LyX or LaTeX gets its UCT/GMT time from. 
> Should I worry about this possibly messing up sync?

Which sync you’re referring to?

I’ve read the code for change tracking in LyX and IMO its as follows:
1. LyX saves the timestamp to the document file as Unix timestamp. No timezone 
involved. (*)
2. LyX converts this timestamp to string presentation via gmtime(3) and 
asctime(3). No timezone involved again.

IMO there is no sync problem in LyX documents. The saved timestamp is always 
w/o timezone. The timestamps in LaTeX export file should be interpreted as UTC.

(*) Others problems are implied:
1. Unix time_t doesn’t consider leap seconds.
2. On 32-bit systems the time ends on January 19, 2038.

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Re: Broken document

[Stephan Witt]

Am 15.03.2023 um 14:34 schrieb Daniel :
> 
> On 15/03/2023 14:28, Eckhard Höffner wrote:
>> That's another possible LyX specific cause:
>> \makeatletter
>> %% LyX specific LaTeX commands.
>> \AtBeginDocument{\providecommand\figref[1]{\ref{fig:#1}}}
>> \RS@ifundefined{subsecref}
>>   {\newref{subsec}{name = \RSsectxt}}
>>   {}
>> \RS@ifundefined{thmref}
>>   {\def\RSthmtxt{theorem~}\newref{thm}{name = \RSthmtxt}}
>>   {}
>> \RS@ifundefined{lemref}
>>   {\def\RSlemtxt{lemma~}\newref{lem}{name = \RSlemtxt}}
>>   {}
>> \makeatother
> 
> But then the error should be reproducible, right? Axel could not. Could you?

Just for the record: I cannot reproduce the error either.

I’m using TeX Live 2020 here.

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Re: [EXTERNAL] ImageMagick

[Stephan Witt]

> Am 09.03.2023 um 08:47 schrieb markhsalmon :
> 
> Surely this applies for Mac versions as well? Hasn’t Ventura dropped 
> ImageMagick? I thought I read this here some time ago and might be the 
> problem with inserting graphics into Documents on Mac system?

Hi Mark,

IMO this isn’t related. ImageMagick isn’t bundled with LyX for macOS. I’ve 
checked the status of ImageMagick for macports. Ventura seems to be supported.

BR,
Stephan

> The more you know, the more you realise how little you know
> 
>> On 7 Mar 2023, at 21:00, Yu Jin  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Am Mi., 1. März 2023 um 23:21 Uhr schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck:
>> On 3/1/23 16:27, Salazar, Derek Gonzalo wrote:
>>> Yes, for Windows. 
>> CCing Eugene, then, our Windows package manager.
>> 
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Re: input child document doesn't work

[Stephan Witt]

Am 15.02.2023 um 14:01 schrieb Alwin van Steensel :
> 
> Dear people in the LyX users group,
> 
> I hope this is the right place to ask this question, if not I apologize. I've 
> tried to find an answer by Googling and in the archive of this mailing list 
> but couldn't find an answer. 
> 
> My question is regarding the function to insert a child document into a LyX 
> document using the input type insertion. When I insert another LyX file into 
> my current LyX file
> 
> insert > file > child document
> 
> and in the pop-up windows choose browse and select a file and choose the 
> include type to be
> 
> input
> 
> nothing happens. Nothing is added into the document. (If the document was 
> saved before trying this and I close the file afterwards, it doesn't ask me 
> if I want to save the document of discard the changes. So the attempt to 
> insert a document didn't make any changes in the document.)

Dear Alwin,

there is a problem report in LyX ticket system:

https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/10047

I think you’re suffering from the same effect. The LyX dialog popup with the 
file chooser button is not the top-most window after you made your choice. You 
may move the LyX main window slightly to the left/right or up/down and probably 
will see the dialog popup sitting behind the main window.

This is an unsolved bug.

Best regards,
Stephan

> 
> Some system details:
> 
> LyX 2.3.7
> MacOS version 13.1 Ventura
> Tex Live 2017 (on path)
> 
> Additional info:
> 
>   • It used to work half a year ago:
> The function did work before. I've not been using LyX for about 5 months but 
> last time I did, it did work. According to the last date the files were 
> edited it still worked 10th of October 2022. I was using an older version of 
> LyX at the time and updated it only yesterday to see if it would solve the 
> problem. The older LyX version is not a very old version though, I believe it 
> was a 2.3.x version.
>   • The only thing changed on my system (I believe) is the MacOS version:
> Therefore at first glance it seems to me that it has something to do with 
> updating my MacOS operating system to Monterey earlier and Ventura now. From 
> the LyX download page I understand these newer versions of MacOS no longer 
> include a Python interpreter which LyX needs to work. It refers to this page 
> which shows how to install Python. However, python is already installed on my 
> system and on my path, i.e. the command 'python3' starts a python session in 
> my terminal. The command 'python' (no 3 at the end) gives an error (perhaps 
> LyX wants to use this command?). The page also describes a message popping up 
> when first opening LyX after a fresh install and Python is not found on the 
> system, I don't remember such a message popping up when I first started LyX 
> after the new installation. I just reinstalled LyX again to see if it would 
> pop up now but it didn't. It seems Python is there and LyX can find it (I 
> didn't get a pop up message) but I am not certain. I wouldn't know what else 
> could be the problem.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated. If any more information is needed I 
> will provide it as best as I can. Thank you in advance.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Alwin
> 
> 
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Re: Ventura graphics Mac

[Stephan Witt]

Hi all,

another report with a similar problem is here: 
https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/10047

Now I could reproduce the problem on Ventura 13.2. It is the LyX:Graphics 
dialog not being on anymore after click on Open.

I’ve placed a series of images to demonstrate the issue here:
https://my.hidrive.com/share/cgcp53ay2p

To workaround the issue please place the LyX:Graphics popup slightly above or 
below the lyx main window to have the opportunity to get it frontmost again.

I’ll have a look for a fix to this problem. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Best regards,
Stephan

> Am 21.01.2023 um 22:16 schrieb markhsalmon :
> 
> This works for me- I think - I have to physically put the file location  in 
> the graphic insert box and not use browse and it gets the graphics file now. 
> On screen looks fuzzy but formats perfectly in pdf. I upgraded to Ventura at 
> the same time as upgrading to 2.3.7 which was dumb but this looks more like a 
> file location recognition issue now to me. Thanks so much for your help - 
> it’s not solved but a work around exists which is an enormous relief- Thanks! 
> This surely must be a Lyx issue … with Ventura. I had to upgrade to Ventura 
> for other reasons related to Dropbox. 
> Thanks again 
> Mark 
> 
> 
> The more you know, the more you realise how little you know
> 
>> On 21 Jan 2023, at 21:02, Christopher Menzel  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Udi wrote:
>>> I think this bug is already reported here, it seems that you can enter the 
>>> Unix file path into the "File:" field manually. 
>>> 
>>> It's not a perfect solution, but it might solve your problem in the 
>>> meantime.
>> 
>> Can confirm.
>> 
>> This definitely appears to be a Ventura thing. I can’t insert graphics on my 
>> 2021 MacBook Pro using either 2.3.6.2 or 2.3.7 but both versions work just 
>> fine on my old iMac under Big Sur. You can mitigate the pain of the kludgy 
>> workaround a little bit by locating your desired graphic in the Finder, 
>> right clicking and selecting “Get Info”. This will bring up an info window 
>> that contains the full Unix path to the containing directory that you can 
>> copy and paste into the “file:” field in the LyX pop-up for inserting 
>> graphics. You’ll still have to type in the file name, but the process is 
>> still easier than typing in the whole path, especially if you use cloud 
>> storage, which buries your files pretty deeply under your home directory.
>> 
>> Alternatively, run LyX under Linux in a Parallels VM — it’s quite a bit 
>> faster than the MacOS universal binary and doesn’t suffer from this bug.
>> 
>> -chris
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Re: Problems with LyX on Mac computers

[Stephan Witt]

Hi all,

unfortunately there is some problem with the LyX binaries on macOS Ventura. I 
built these binaries including the Qt frameworks. At the moment I don’t have 
the option to investigate the problem because I didn’t upgrade the build system 
(yet).

The Universal binary was build on Big Sur and requires at least macOS 10.14. 
For those unable to update to Mojave (10.14) I made an Intel binary for macOS 
10.12 or newer.

I have no idea what the cause of the Ventura file open dialog is. My plan is to 
update the build system to macOS 13.x - so it should be possible to solve the 
problem then.

Best regards,
Stephan

> Am 22.01.2023 um 21:09 schrieb Edwin Burmeister :
> 
> Sorry, I did not realize that the current binary for LyX 2.3.7 is a Universal 
> application. That is what I have been using.
> 
> So apparently the problems encountered by Mac users are NOT due to Rosetta as 
> I had wrongly guessed.
> 
> ***
> Edwin Burmeister
> Research Professor of Economics Emeritus
> Duke University
> Commonwealth Professor of Economics Emeritus
> University of Virginia
> e...@econ.duke.edu
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 22, 2023, at 2:10 PM, Christopher Menzel  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> On Jan 22, 2023, at 10:48 AM, mark salmon  wrote:
>>> Marcus in your reply to Ed Burmeister you said there are 2 installers for 
>>> Lyx 2.3.7- for macs- one for old and one for new versions of MacOS .I 
>>> don't think I saw this when installing 2.3.7 I just chose the one option I 
>>> saw in front of me-
>> 
>> The two installers are not for older and newer versions of MacOS, they are 
>> for older and newer Macs — older machines have Intel chips while newer 
>> machines have Apple Silicon (M1 and M2 chips). The installer for the 
>> universal LyX binary, which will run on either platform, includes the string 
>> “x86_64-arm64”; the installer for the Intel-only binary only includes the 
>> substring “x86_64”. In fact, both installers and both binaries will run on 
>> both older and newer machines (although, of course, the Intel binary 
>> requires the mediation of Rosetta on Apple Silicon machines). I suppose the 
>> Intel-only binary is a bit smaller and perhaps runs a bit faster on an Intel 
>> Mac, but would think the differences would be negligible (but I could be 
>> wrong).
>> 
>>> could this be the source of the graphics problem?
>> 
>> No. The problem arises under Ventura no matter which LyX binary you use.
>> 
>> Chris Menzel
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Re: How to make LyX work with Mac OS 13.1:solved

[Stephan Witt]

Am 15.12.2022 um 16:22 schrieb Scott Kostyshak :
> 
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 04:05:27PM +0100, Stephan Witt wrote:
>> Am 14.12.2022 um 17:02 schrieb Scott Kostyshak :
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Dec 14, 2022 at 05:55:17PM +0200, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
>>>> Hal,
>>>> 
>>>> the command is
>>>> 
>>>> sudo xcode-select --install
>>>> 
>>>> you will then be asked for your password.
>>>> 
>>>> It is a system wide installation of the command line tools (of XCode)
>>>> and hence must be done as administrator (technically root).
>>>> 
>>>> The complete XCode will of course also install python3 but is a few GB
>>>> too much.
>>>> 
>>>> el
>>> 
>>> Is there a way from the command line to install only Python on macOS?
>> 
>> AFAIK you can choose either so called „Xcode Command Line Tools“ or „Xcode 
>> Developer Package“.
>> 
>> The command line tools include e.g. clang, git and python3 and SDKs. 
>> The disk image of version 12.2 has 431M and 14.2 has 672M. 
>> The unpacked files require approximately 2GB..3GB.
>> 
>> Without the command line tools installed there is a small python3 utility 
>> only.
>> The execution of this python3 triggers a popup asking the user for 
>> installation of the command line tools.
>> 
>> https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/12523
>> 
>> Unfortunately this popup is raised on first python presence check by LyX. 
>> Shortly after this LyX raises its own popup to tell the user the 
>> configuration has failed.
>> This 2nd popup hides the first one partially and distracts users from the 
>> first.
>> 
>> The easiest solution for users would be to allow download and install of the 
>> command line
>> tools by confirmation of the first question, wait until it is finished (it 
>> really takes a while)
>> and restart LyX's configuration.
> 
> Thanks for that detailed explanation, Stephan. Do I understand then that
> this issue is a long-term issue on macOS that we should expect for
> future versions as well? That is, it is not just an issue that appears
> when upgrading to Ventura. As is, even a new Apple computer that comes
> with Ventura pre-installed will not have Python by default and thus will
> have the issue.

Yes, that’s true.

> It's good to know that LyX's own python check triggers the popup. Would
> it make sense to have a lighter python check that does not raise the
> popup, and conditional on that check LyX can give a user-friendly
> message like "macOS will prompt you to install python, which is
> necessary for LyX. We suggest you click on yes/accept/install“ ?

Something like that I had in mind too. Probably it’s enough to check for the 
platform and version (now we know how to do so :) ) and to modify the LyX
message prompt on configuration failure. The hard thing would be to debug
the solution. But I’ll try to come up with a solution for it.

Stephan


> Of course, this will not cover all of the cases. For example, if a
> different program triggered the prompt and they said "no", then I
> imagine they will not see the popup again.
> 
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Re: How to make LyX work with Mac OS 13.1:solved

[Stephan Witt]

Am 14.12.2022 um 17:02 schrieb Scott Kostyshak :
> 
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2022 at 05:55:17PM +0200, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
>> Hal,
>> 
>> the command is
>> 
>>   sudo xcode-select --install
>> 
>> you will then be asked for your password.
>> 
>> It is a system wide installation of the command line tools (of XCode)
>> and hence must be done as administrator (technically root).
>> 
>> The complete XCode will of course also install python3 but is a few GB
>> too much.
>> 
>> el
> 
> Is there a way from the command line to install only Python on macOS?

AFAIK you can choose either so called „Xcode Command Line Tools“ or „Xcode 
Developer Package“.

The command line tools include e.g. clang, git and python3 and SDKs. 
The disk image of version 12.2 has 431M and 14.2 has 672M. 
The unpacked files require approximately 2GB..3GB.

Without the command line tools installed there is a small python3 utility only.
The execution of this python3 triggers a popup asking the user for installation 
of the command line tools.

https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/12523

Unfortunately this popup is raised on first python presence check by LyX. 
Shortly after this LyX raises its own popup to tell the user the configuration 
has failed.
This 2nd popup hides the first one partially and distracts users from the first.

The easiest solution for users would be to allow download and install of the 
command line
tools by confirmation of the first question, wait until it is finished (it 
really takes a while)
and restart LyX's configuration.

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Re: About upgrading to MacOS 13

[Stephan Witt]

Am 07.12.2022 um 16:21 schrieb Daniel CLEMENT via lyx-users 
:
> 
> Dear list members,
> 
> I have monitored last month’s threads about LyX woes under macOS 13. There 
> wasn’t a definite conclusion it seems.
> 
> Would you say it’s safe to upgrade to MacOS13 now (with LyX 2.3.6.2)?
> 
> When I installed it, it complained about Python missing, but I somehow 
> managed to get Python installed too. 
> 
> I’m rather new to Mac, and in no hurry at all to do the upgrade. Perhaps it 
> would be best to wait for LyX 2.4?
> 
> I’ll take your advice - best regards,

Hi Daniel,

I’m on Mojave for production as primary macOS (because I’m using Aperture from 
Apple - a 32bit application w/o 64bit upgrade option!).

I have access to a M1 system with Big Sur for development builds of LyX. I 
don’t want to upgrade because I’ll loose the option to test LyX on Big Sur.

I’ve tested LyX 2.3.6.2 on different VMs with macOS 12.x and didn’t have time 
and resources to try macOS 13 yet.

My experience is: starting with Monterey 12.3 Apple dropped the support for 
Python 2.x and the upgrade from earlier versions removes it. There is a 
replacement Python 3 installed as a stub and if this gets called it asks the 
user to download and install the real thing from Apple.

There is one report of having a problem after upgrade from Monterey to Ventura 
(macOS 13) with Python again. I couldn’t get the information how this happened. 
Probably the upgrade to Ventura breaks the installed Python 3 from Apple. One 
has to reinstall it manually.

All this is a consequence of Apples decision to pass the responsibility for a 
working Python software to app developers and/or end users. So they cannot be 
blamed for security problems with it, IMO. It makes no sense to include a 
Python package with LyX and therefore it is ok to install either Apples or the 
„official“ open-source Python for Apple on the system. It’s an open task to 
detect the current situation on the users system and give more prominent and 
useful advice how to proceed.

There is another issue I’m aware of. On some systems the gatekeeper keeps 
nagging and says the LyX binary is a suspicious one. Probably it’s because of 
the bundle permissions, the certificate used for signing or the security 
settings of users system.

My advice would be to try the upgrade if you’re able to go back with time 
machine w/o hassle. I’ll be there to answer questions and help to solve 
problems. If you don’t want to risk anything I can understand it and you may 
wait for the results of my experiments in a virtual machine. Another option is 
to create a virtual machine yourself and try it there and contact me if 
something is broken.

Hope that helps and regards,
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Re: older lyx file will not open

[Stephan Witt]

Am 04.12.2022 um 23:56 schrieb Ivan Werning :
> 
> Hi
> 
> Help! I'm having trouble with an important older LyX file not opening in LyX.
> 
> I'm a long time LyX user here. I am having trouble with an old file from 2014 
> that was created by LyX 2.1. I'm on a 2017 intel mac running OS 13.0.1 
> (Ventura).

Hi Ivan,

did you upgrade macOS and what was your previous version?

Most of the time users did an upgrade from macOS 12.3 or earlier. The upgrade 
process removes one crucial utility (python) from the system and replaces it by 
a new one which asks the users for download and install of the newer version. 
One has to notice it, interpret is and agree with.

See the ticket in LyX’s bug tracker: https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/12523

To check for this you may open a Terminal session and type the command
python3 -V

Either you get a version info or you’ll be asked to download and install the 
real software. This is required to keep LyX working.

BR,
Stephan

> When I try to open it in 2.3.6.2 I get filename.lyx  is from an older version 
> of LyX and the lyx2lyx script failed to convert it.
> 
> #LyX 2.1 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/
> \lyxformat 474
> \begin_document
> \begin_header
> \textclass article
> 
> 
> I tried downloading earlier versions of Lyx to no avail. I completely failed 
> with 2.1.5.  Here when I run LyX I am asked to reconfigure. I do, but I'm not 
> sure it works.
> 
> The error messages I get are different: 
> 
> The module basic has been requested by
> this document but has not been found in the list of
> available modules. If you recently installed it, you
> probably need to reconfigure LyX.
> 
> Hit OK then...
> 
> The module theorems-ams has been requested by
> this document but has not been found in the list of
> available modules. If you recently installed it, you
> probably need to reconfigure LyX.
> 
> The module natbib has been requested by
> this document but has not been found in the list of
> available modules. If you recently installed it, you
> probably need to reconfigure LyX.
> 
> And it finally opens the file with a Parse error box complaining "Layout 
> `Proposition' was not found."
> 
> At this point I have the file fully open, but it will not compile. Nor do I 
> know what to do with it to take it to a newer version. I get no Export 
> options and I tried copy pasting into the newer LyX and that did not work (I 
> get again "[filname] is from an older version of LyX and the lyx2lyx script 
> failed to convert it.")
> 
> Any help would be much appreciated! Thanks.
> 
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Re: Problem converting older files with lyx2lyx

[Stephan Witt]

Am 25.11.2022 um 18:50 schrieb José Matos :
> 
> On Wed, 2022-11-23 at 11:36 +1100, Gordon Watson via lyx-users wrote:
>> gordonwatson@iMac ~ % python3
>> xcrun: error: invalid active developer path
>> (/Library/Developer/CommandLineTools), missing xcrun at:
>> /Library/Developer/CommandLineTools/usr/bin/xcrun
> 
> This line shows that there is a problem with python3 installation.

Yes, this is what I „googled“ and wrote him in private mail communication:

> Am 21.11.2022 um 07:04 schrieb Stephan Witt :
> 
> Hi Gordon,
> 
> I don’t know why you have this problem yet - but I hope the helpful procedure 
> is described here:
> 
> https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/254380/why-am-i-getting-an-invalid-active-developer-path-when-attempting-to-use-git-a
> 
> If it doesn’t work… send me the excerpt what you did and what happened. We’ll 
> see what to try next.
> 
> BR,
> Stephan


> Am 21.11.2022 um 17:44 schrieb Stephan Witt :
> 
> Hi Gordon,
> 
> I think you have the following situation on your system:
> - You installed some version of python3 in the past
> - You upgraded from some version of Monterey to some other
> - This step broke your python3 installation
> - Now you neither have python nor python3
> - LyX is almost useless w/o python or python3
> 
> This situation I cannot simulate on my site - I don’t have the resources. 
> Neither hardware nor time.
> 
> To solve your problem you should reinstall python3 on your system somehow.
> 
> This should be possible with the given command in terminal.
> 
> 1. Open Terminal
> 2. Run the following command: xcode-select --install
> 
> This will download and install the Command Line Tools package and should fix 
> the problem. (No heart or lungs involved - no battery replacement )
> 
> BR,
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Re: Cannot Create New Frame

[Stephan Witt]

Am 17.11.2022 um 10:52 schrieb typ...@mac.com:
> 
>> On 17 Nov 2022, at 8:29 pm, Stephan Witt  wrote:
>> 
>> Am 17.11.2022 um 09:07 schrieb typ...@mac.com:
>>> 
>>> On 17 Nov 2022, at 6:47 pm, Gordon Watson  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 17 Nov 2022, at 5:40 pm, Stephan Witt  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Am 16.11.2022 um 21:54 schrieb Scott Kostyshak :
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 07:43:50AM +1100, Gordon Watson wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On the subject of LyX and Mac! LyX — LyX Version 2.3.6.2 (7 January 
>>>>>>> 2021) — is more important to me than my Monterey v12.6 Mac. (Ventura is 
>>>>>>> on hold.) I am currently locked out of hundreds of essays with a 
>>>>>>> lyx2lyx problem. SO: Is it time for me to buy a PC?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> NB: I am a heavy user of LyX, often 14 hours per day. BUT: it is a 
>>>>>>> black box to me, and that’s how I want it to stay: for I do not expect 
>>>>>>> to fiddle with the engine when I buy a car! And, yes, to escape my 
>>>>>>> current dilemma, I’d be happy to BUY LyX or hire a consultant.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In particular: I have no familiarity with the jargon — python, Koma, 
>>>>>>> Linux/Unix — and I hope to remain that way
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If a PC is the BEST solution, then recommendations for a suitable PC — 
>>>>>>> or ones to avoid — will be happily received!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks; Gordon
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Gordon,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’m on a Mac and able to run LyX 2.3.6.2 on Monterey 12.6 - would you 
>>>>> mind to describe your problems with lyx2lyx in some detail?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Perhaps I’m able to help with fixing the problem on Mac.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Stephan
>>>> 
>>> Thanks, Stephan,
>>> 1. I search for my file BTR19.lyx. 2. I find it. 3. I double-click. 4. 
>>> Error message:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi Gordon,
>> 
>> I tried what you described: open a LyX 2.2 file in Finder with double click. 
>> Here it works.
>> 
>> To get more diagnostic information please do the following:
>> 1. Open the message pane (View -> Messages Pane) and enable the output of 
>> files and latex.
>> 2. Repeat the double click file open operation
>> 3. Copy the contents of the message pane and send it to me
>> 
>> BR,
>> Stephan
> 
> I enabled the output of files and latex BUT am wondering if this enabling was 
> recognised and held.
> 
> Here’s the content:
> 
> 20:43:30.843: (buffer-new: ⌘N)
> 20:44:30.809: Opening document ~/Desktop/LyX files/BTR19.lyx...Error: 
> Conversion script failed
> 
> /Users/gordonwatson/Desktop/LyX files/BTR19.lyx is from an older version of 
> LyX and the lyx2lyx script failed to convert it.
> 20:44:49.218: Document not loaded.
> 20:44:49.218: Could not open document ~/Desktop/LyX files/BTR19.lyx

Hi Gordon,

sorry, that’s not enough info. Please try it agin and enable files, info and 
latex (plus info) before.

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Re: Cannot Create New Frame

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Am 17.11.2022 um 09:07 schrieb typ...@mac.com:
> 
> On 17 Nov 2022, at 6:47 pm, Gordon Watson  wrote:
>> 
>>> On 17 Nov 2022, at 5:40 pm, Stephan Witt  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Am 16.11.2022 um 21:54 schrieb Scott Kostyshak :
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 07:43:50AM +1100, Gordon Watson wrote:
>>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>>> 
>>>>> On the subject of LyX and Mac! LyX — LyX Version 2.3.6.2 (7 January 2021) 
>>>>> — is more important to me than my Monterey v12.6 Mac. (Ventura is on 
>>>>> hold.) I am currently locked out of hundreds of essays with a lyx2lyx 
>>>>> problem. SO: Is it time for me to buy a PC?
>>>>> 
>>>>> NB: I am a heavy user of LyX, often 14 hours per day. BUT: it is a black 
>>>>> box to me, and that’s how I want it to stay: for I do not expect to 
>>>>> fiddle with the engine when I buy a car! And, yes, to escape my current 
>>>>> dilemma, I’d be happy to BUY LyX or hire a consultant.
>>>>> 
>>>>> In particular: I have no familiarity with the jargon — python, Koma, 
>>>>> Linux/Unix — and I hope to remain that way
>>>>> 
>>>>> If a PC is the BEST solution, then recommendations for a suitable PC — or 
>>>>> ones to avoid — will be happily received!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks; Gordon
>>> 
>>> Hi Gordon,
>>> 
>>> I’m on a Mac and able to run LyX 2.3.6.2 on Monterey 12.6 - would you mind 
>>> to describe your problems with lyx2lyx in some detail?
>>> 
>>> Perhaps I’m able to help with fixing the problem on Mac.
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Stephan
>> 
> Thanks, Stephan,
> 1. I search for my file BTR19.lyx. 2. I find it. 3. I double-click. 4. Error 
> message:
> 
> 
> 

Hi Gordon,

I tried what you described: open a LyX 2.2 file in Finder with double click. 
Here it works.

To get more diagnostic information please do the following:
1. Open the message pane (View -> Messages Pane) and enable the output of files 
and latex.
2. Repeat the double click file open operation
3. Copy the contents of the message pane and send it to me

BR,
Stephan

>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Gordon,
>>>> 
>>>> Ouch! That sounds really frustrating! I do not think you should buy a new 
>>>> computer just because of this. We are working on releasing 2.4.0, and I 
>>>> wonder if this will somehow work for you since it has a lot of 
>>>> improvements compared to the version you're using.
>>>> 
>>>> Wow, 14 hours a day! I wonder if there is an entry in the Guiness Book of 
>>>> World Records for LyX usage?
>>>> 
>>>> It is our goal that you should not have to know anything about Python, 
>>>> Unix, Qt, C++, etc., to use LyX. Unfortunately, in practice it's hard to 
>>>> achieve that since LyX has a lot of things it needs to work well and 
>>>> sometimes the parts don't line up.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> Scott
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 17 Nov 2022, at 3:22 am, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 11:10:14AM -0800, Michela Giorcelli via 
>>>>>> lyx-users wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I recently upgraded my Mac to Ventura and in Lyx the create new 
>>>>>>> environment option has disappeared and I’m not able to create a new 
>>>>>>> frame, not even using the key board option. Could anyone help with this?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Michela,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Unfortunately, we've seen a lot of strange issues reported by LyX users 
>>>>>> upgrading to Ventura. Further, we have only one LyX developer whose main 
>>>>>> operating system is macOS and I'm not even sure if they are on Ventura 
>>>>>> so I don't know if there will be a fix anytime soon since it's hard to 
>>>>>> figure out what the problem is and how to fix it. I'm really sorry for 
>>>>>> the inconvenience!
>>>>>> 
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Re: Cannot Create New Frame

[Stephan Witt]

Am 16.11.2022 um 21:54 schrieb Scott Kostyshak :
> 
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 07:43:50AM +1100, Gordon Watson wrote:
>> Hi Scott,
>> 
>> On the subject of LyX and Mac! LyX — LyX Version 2.3.6.2 (7 January 2021) — 
>> is more important to me than my Monterey v12.6 Mac. (Ventura is on hold.) I 
>> am currently locked out of hundreds of essays with a lyx2lyx problem. SO: Is 
>> it time for me to buy a PC?
>> 
>> NB: I am a heavy user of LyX, often 14 hours per day. BUT: it is a black box 
>> to me, and that’s how I want it to stay: for I do not expect to fiddle with 
>> the engine when I buy a car! And, yes, to escape my current dilemma, I’d be 
>> happy to BUY LyX or hire a consultant.
>> 
>> In particular: I have no familiarity with the jargon — python, Koma, 
>> Linux/Unix — and I hope to remain that way
>> 
>> If a PC is the BEST solution, then recommendations for a suitable PC — or 
>> ones to avoid — will be happily received!
>> 
>> Thanks; Gordon

Hi Gordon,

I’m on a Mac and able to run LyX 2.3.6.2 on Monterey 12.6 - would you mind to 
describe your problems with lyx2lyx in some detail?

Perhaps I’m able to help with fixing the problem on Mac.

Best regards,
Stephan

> 
> Hi Gordon,
> 
> Ouch! That sounds really frustrating! I do not think you should buy a new 
> computer just because of this. We are working on releasing 2.4.0, and I 
> wonder if this will somehow work for you since it has a lot of improvements 
> compared to the version you're using.
> 
> Wow, 14 hours a day! I wonder if there is an entry in the Guiness Book of 
> World Records for LyX usage?
> 
> It is our goal that you should not have to know anything about Python, Unix, 
> Qt, C++, etc., to use LyX. Unfortunately, in practice it's hard to achieve 
> that since LyX has a lot of things it needs to work well and sometimes the 
> parts don't line up.
> 
> Best,
> Scott
> 
>> 
>>> On 17 Nov 2022, at 3:22 am, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 11:10:14AM -0800, Michela Giorcelli via lyx-users 
>>> wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I recently upgraded my Mac to Ventura and in Lyx the create new 
 environment option has disappeared and I’m not able to create a new frame, 
 not even using the key board option. Could anyone help with this?
>>> 
>>> Hi Michela,
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately, we've seen a lot of strange issues reported by LyX users 
>>> upgrading to Ventura. Further, we have only one LyX developer whose main 
>>> operating system is macOS and I'm not even sure if they are on Ventura so I 
>>> don't know if there will be a fix anytime soon since it's hard to figure 
>>> out what the problem is and how to fix it. I'm really sorry for the 
>>> inconvenience!
>>> 
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Re: Re MacOS Ventura trouble

[Stephan Witt]

Am 27.10.2022 um 21:34 schrieb Marcus Kriele via lyx-users 
:
> 
> Thanks for both your answers
> 
> @JMarc: I simply upgraded to the newer Mac OS. Prior to the update, LyX was 
> running smoothly, so  I would assume that I had Python 3.0 as well. An 
> OS-update shouldn’t delete existing programs. In the meanwhile I have 
> downgraded OS again and cannot verify anymore whether I did have Python 3.0

Sorry to say that, but the upgrade from Mac OS 12.2 to 12.3 did exactly that - 
delete the Python 2.7 and install a Python 3.x stub instead. So the question is 
indeed: did you upgrade from 12.2 or less and did you try to install the Python 
3 on Venture or not?

BR, Stephan

> 
> @el:  I I have an ARM MacBook Pro. So if you could post whether it worked for 
> your M1 MacBook would be helpful to anyone who might have read about my 
> troubles.
> 
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Re: LyX 2.3.6.3 fatal problems on a Mac

[Stephan Witt]

Am 20.09.2022 um 16:04 schrieb Edwin Burmeister :
> 
> Hi, Stephen—
> 
> Ich verstehen.

Hi Edwin,

:)

> 
> I always installed all upgrades to Mac OS. So my order was 12.4, 12.5, I 
> believe 12.5.1, and finally 12.6.
> 
> LyX was not installed on any of these OS’s until I finally tried 
> unsuccessfully to do so on 12.6.

That’s the point. I’ve installed it on 12.1 and upgraded to 12.3 and 12.6. 

After upgrade to 12.3 LyX started to trigger the request to install Python. See 
https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/12523. This happened because of Apples decision 
to remove Python 2.7 from the system on upgrade to 12.3 and provide an Python 3 
stub instead.

There was no problem to upgrade to 12.6 afterwards. But this I didn’t know 
until trying it.

> I do not know if some versions of Python was installed on any of these OS’s.

I’ll try that next to see what’s the situation on these OS’s is.

> But again the bottom line is that a fresh install of Python3 on OS 12.6 
> completely solved my LyX problems.
> 
> Hope this additional info helps.

Yes, thank you.

BR,
Stephan

> 
> Ed
> 
> ***
> Edwin Burmeister
> Research Professor of Economics Emeritus
> Duke University
> Commonwealth Professor of Economics Emeritus
> University of Virginia
> e...@econ.duke.edu
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 20, 2022, at 9:48 AM, Stephan Witt  wrote:
>> 
>> Am 20.09.2022 um 14:53 schrieb Edwin Burmeister :
>>> 
>>> Hi, Stephan--
>>> 
>>> There is some misunderstanding here.
>> 
>> Probably.
>> 
>>> What I wrote was:
>>> 
>>> “I have been unsuccessful in getting LyX 2.3.6.2 to work on my MacBookPro 
>>> running OS 12.6.”
>>> 
>>> Have not been using OS 12.4 for quite awhile.
>> 
>> My question was: did you upgrade the system (with OS 12.4 + LyX + Python) to 
>> 12.6 or did you install LyX on a new system with 12.6?
>> 
>>> There was “a critical OS 12.5 upgrade” [or maybe it was OS 12..5.1] in 
>>> between that I also had installed.
>>> 
>>> In any event, my problems with LyX 2.3.6.2 have all gone away since I 
>>> installed Python3.
>> 
>> I’d guess you installed LyX w/o Python on a new system.
>> 
>>> Hope this info is helpful to you.
>> 
>> My question is important to know how to help other users or to improve the 
>> LyX install process and to avoid your problems - if possible.
>> 
>> BR,
>> Stephan
>> 
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Ed
>>> 
>>> ***
>>> Edwin Burmeister
>>> Research Professor of Economics Emeritus
>>> Duke University
>>> Commonwealth Professor of Economics Emeritus
>>> University of Virginia
>>> e...@econ.duke.edu
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 20, 2022, at 1:46 AM, Stephan Witt  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Am 19.09.2022 um 23:15 schrieb Edwin Burmeister :
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi—
>>>>> 
>>>>> I do not know how to use LyX “bug reporting” and hope you can help me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have been unsuccessful in getting LyX 2.3.6.2 to work on my MacBookPro 
>>>>> running OS 12.6.
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Edwin,
>>>> 
>>>> that’s bad, sorry to hear that.
>>>> 
>>>> I remember you’ve made a trac ticket in LyX bug tracker. There you’ve 
>>>> mentioned using LyX-2.3.6.2 on Monterey 12.4.
>>>> 
>>>> Does it mean you’ve upgraded your OS from 12.4 to 12.6? Or is it a new 
>>>> system?
>>>> 
>>>> JMarc is right (see the other answer), there is a possible problem with 
>>>> Python on Mac since OS 12.3… but it might be not your problem if you’ve 
>>>> installed it yet.
>>>> 
>>>>> I downloaded your DMG file many time thinking that perhaps there was a 
>>>>> transmission error. But nothing works. Even tried a mirror.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here is a partial list of problem that I have encountered:
>>>>> 
>>>>> (1) When opening LyX, the word LyX appears briefly on the Menu Bar and 
>>>>> then disappears completely. The main LyX window never opens.
>>>>> 
>>>>> (2) Sometimes I get a message about needing to Reconfigure LyX. When I 
>>>>> try to do so, I get a message that it failed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> (3) Sometimes I get a message that the cite engine is missing.
>>>>> 
>

Re: LyX 2.3.6.3 fatal problems on a Mac

[Stephan Witt]

Am 20.09.2022 um 14:53 schrieb Edwin Burmeister :
> 
> Hi, Stephan--
> 
> There is some misunderstanding here.

Probably.

> What I wrote was:
> 
> “I have been unsuccessful in getting LyX 2.3.6.2 to work on my MacBookPro 
> running OS 12.6.”
> 
> Have not been using OS 12.4 for quite awhile.

My question was: did you upgrade the system (with OS 12.4 + LyX + Python) to 
12.6 or did you install LyX on a new system with 12.6?

> There was “a critical OS 12.5 upgrade” [or maybe it was OS 12..5.1] in 
> between that I also had installed.
> 
> In any event, my problems with LyX 2.3.6.2 have all gone away since I 
> installed Python3.

I’d guess you installed LyX w/o Python on a new system.

> Hope this info is helpful to you.

My question is important to know how to help other users or to improve the LyX 
install process and to avoid your problems - if possible.

BR,
Stephan

> 
> Best,
> 
> Ed
> 
> ***
> Edwin Burmeister
> Research Professor of Economics Emeritus
> Duke University
> Commonwealth Professor of Economics Emeritus
> University of Virginia
> e...@econ.duke.edu
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 20, 2022, at 1:46 AM, Stephan Witt  wrote:
>> 
>> Am 19.09.2022 um 23:15 schrieb Edwin Burmeister :
>>> 
>>> Hi—
>>> 
>>> I do not know how to use LyX “bug reporting” and hope you can help me.
>>> 
>>> I have been unsuccessful in getting LyX 2.3.6.2 to work on my MacBookPro 
>>> running OS 12.6.
>> 
>> Hi Edwin,
>> 
>> that’s bad, sorry to hear that.
>> 
>> I remember you’ve made a trac ticket in LyX bug tracker. There you’ve 
>> mentioned using LyX-2.3.6.2 on Monterey 12.4.
>> 
>> Does it mean you’ve upgraded your OS from 12.4 to 12.6? Or is it a new 
>> system?
>> 
>> JMarc is right (see the other answer), there is a possible problem with 
>> Python on Mac since OS 12.3… but it might be not your problem if you’ve 
>> installed it yet.
>> 
>>> I downloaded your DMG file many time thinking that perhaps there was a 
>>> transmission error. But nothing works. Even tried a mirror.
>>> 
>>> Here is a partial list of problem that I have encountered:
>>> 
>>> (1) When opening LyX, the word LyX appears briefly on the Menu Bar and then 
>>> disappears completely. The main LyX window never opens.
>>> 
>>> (2) Sometimes I get a message about needing to Reconfigure LyX. When I try 
>>> to do so, I get a message that it failed.
>>> 
>>> (3) Sometimes I get a message that the cite engine is missing.
>>> 
>>> (4) The file LyX-2.3 located in /Library/Application Support/ contains ONLY 
>>> an empty cache file.
>>> 
>>> (5) Once-- do not recall exactly what I was doing at the time-- I got a 
>>> message that said something like, “You have encountered a bug in LyX.”
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have spent at least 4 or 5 hours trying various alternatives in hopes of 
>>> getting LyX to work. None have been successful.
>>> 
>>> Will you please let me know by Reply email what I should do now?
>> 
>> You may try to start the LyX binary inside a terminal window. E.g. type
>> 
>> /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/MacOS/lyx
>> 
>> and hit enter and wait for any error message and post it here.
>> 
>> BR, 
>> Stephan
>> 
>>> 
>>> Your help would be greatly appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Ed
>>> 
>>> ***
>>> Edwin Burmeister
>>> Research Professor of Economics Emeritus
>>> Duke University
>>> Commonwealth Professor of Economics Emeritus
>>> University of Virginia
>>> e...@econ.duke.edu
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: LyX 2.3.6.3 fatal problems on a Mac

[Stephan Witt]

Am 19.09.2022 um 23:15 schrieb Edwin Burmeister :
> 
> Hi—
> 
> I do not know how to use LyX “bug reporting” and hope you can help me.
> 
> I have been unsuccessful in getting LyX 2.3.6.2 to work on my MacBookPro 
> running OS 12.6.

Hi Edwin,

that’s bad, sorry to hear that.

I remember you’ve made a trac ticket in LyX bug tracker. There you’ve mentioned 
using LyX-2.3.6.2 on Monterey 12.4.

Does it mean you’ve upgraded your OS from 12.4 to 12.6? Or is it a new system?

JMarc is right (see the other answer), there is a possible problem with Python 
on Mac since OS 12.3… but it might be not your problem if you’ve installed it 
yet.

> I downloaded your DMG file many time thinking that perhaps there was a 
> transmission error. But nothing works. Even tried a mirror.
> 
> Here is a partial list of problem that I have encountered:
> 
> (1) When opening LyX, the word LyX appears briefly on the Menu Bar and then 
> disappears completely. The main LyX window never opens.
> 
> (2) Sometimes I get a message about needing to Reconfigure LyX. When I try to 
> do so, I get a message that it failed.
> 
> (3) Sometimes I get a message that the cite engine is missing.
> 
> (4) The file LyX-2.3 located in /Library/Application Support/ contains ONLY 
> an empty cache file.
> 
> (5) Once-- do not recall exactly what I was doing at the time-- I got a 
> message that said something like, “You have encountered a bug in LyX.”
> 
> 
> I have spent at least 4 or 5 hours trying various alternatives in hopes of 
> getting LyX to work. None have been successful.
> 
> Will you please let me know by Reply email what I should do now?

You may try to start the LyX binary inside a terminal window. E.g. type

/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/MacOS/lyx

and hit enter and wait for any error message and post it here.

BR, 
Stephan

> 
> Your help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Ed
> 
> ***
> Edwin Burmeister
> Research Professor of Economics Emeritus
> Duke University
> Commonwealth Professor of Economics Emeritus
> University of Virginia
> e...@econ.duke.edu
> 
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Re: Document Setting "Synchronize with output" doesn't work

[Stephan Witt]

Am 04.09.2022 um 19:11 schrieb tush via lyx-users :
> 
> I tick the check-mark for "Synchronize with output" in Document 
> Settings->Formats for my document, but no synctex.gz file is generated.
> 
> The problem is on LyX 2.3.6.2, on macOS 12.1, and the line of code 
> \synctex=-1 disappears from the preamble in code preview pane only when I 
> tick a check mark on "Use Non Tex Fonts" setting. When I uncheck the check 
> mark this line of code re appears.
> 
> Why is it?

IMO it’s a bug in LyX 2.3.x - I’ve fixed it in upcoming 2.4.0 LyX.

Stephan

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Re: Compile fail

[Stephan Witt]

Am 01.09.2022 um 19:40 schrieb Christopher Menzel :
> 
> LyX folk:
> 
> I’ve successfully compiled LyX from sources under Linux but my attempts to do 
> so under MacOS for my M1 Macs (since I don’t want to use Rosetta 2). I 
> installed QT5 using homebrew and I’m using what seem to me to be the right 
> flags for the configure script, viz.,

Hi Chris,

I’d recommend to build in a dedicated sibling directory of your LyX sources. 
But this is not your problem, IMO.

>   % ./configure --enable-qt5 --with-version-suffix=-2.3 --with-x=no 
> --with-qt-dir=/opt/homebrew/opt/qt5/
> 
> but I keep getting the following error:
> 
>> checking for Qt library name... failed
>> configure: error: cannot compile a simple Qt executable. Check you have the 
>> right $QTDIR.
> 
> I’ve tried adding both “bin” and “lib” to the QT5 path but to no avail. I 
> can’t afford to spend a ton of time on this but if there is something easy 
> and obvious I’m missing that might solve the problem I’d appreciate hearing 
> about it!

I see no obvious problem. But I may see it if you send me the configure.log (in 
PM as it may big).

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Re: lyx2lyx fails to convert

[Stephan Witt]

Am 21.08.2022 um 10:33 schrieb Stephan Witt :
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
> you have to change your command - lyx2lyx is a folder in Resources:

Sorry, this one sends the standard output to trash… this is useful in case of 
lyx2lyx is logging errors separately (I’m not sure it works that way).

> $ 
> /System/Volumes/Data/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/lyx2lyx/lyx2lyx 
> -v Contrast\ paper.lyx > /dev/null

To verify the output in terminal you should use it w/o redirect to trash

$ /System/Volumes/Data/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/lyx2lyx/lyx2lyx 
-v Contrast\ paper.lyx

or

$ /System/Volumes/Data/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/lyx2lyx/lyx2lyx 
-v Contrast\ paper.lyx | less

to view the result page by page.

Another option is to use the message pane in LyX:

1. Start LyX
2. Activate Message Pane (menu item of the View menu)
3. Switch to the Settings tab
4. Choose „Selected“ at left and „info“ at right.
5. Open the file „Contrast paper.lyx“
6. Check the Output contents of the Message Pane

Stephan

> …
> 
> In case it’s a python problem the following command and it’s output is of 
> interest:
> 
> $ /usr/bin/env python --version
> Python 3.8.13
> 
> Stephan
> 
>> Am 21.08.2022 um 06:06 schrieb Tim Garrett :
>> 
>> Sorry, probably being dense here but this is what I get after finding the 
>> function
>> 
>> /System/Volumes/Data/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/lyx2lyx -v 
>> Contrast\ paper.lyx
>> zsh: permission denied: 
>> /System/Volumes/Data/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/lyx2lyx
>> 
>> Thanks for helping out here. Been a LyX user since 2001 when it was KLyX and 
>> this is the first time I’ve seen this.
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>> On 20 Aug 2022, at 3:57, Stephan Witt wrote:
>> 
>> Am 18.08.2022 um 18:07 schrieb Paul A. Rubin :
>> 
>> On 8/18/22 11:15, Tim J Garrett wrote:
>> 
>> Running MacOS Monterrey and getting this error message trying to open old 
>> lyx files as recent as 2016:
>> 
>> “file.lyx is from an older version of LyX and the lyx2lyx script failed to 
>> convert it.”
>> 
>> Unclear what to do from online forums. Any advice? I’m not a developer, so 
>> step-by-step would be appreciated. I have tried installing old versions of 
>> lyx but without success. Below is the lyx preamble
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>> #LyX 2.1 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/ 
>> \lyxformat 474 
>> \begin_document 
>> \begin_header 
>> \textclass article 
>> \begin_preamble
>> 
>> \usepackage[left,modulo]{lineno} 
>> \end_preamble 
>> \options agums 
>> \use_default_options false 
>> \maintain_unincluded_children false 
>> \language english 
>> \language_package default 
>> \inputencoding auto 
>> \fontencoding global 
>> \font_roman times 
>> \font_sans default 
>> \font_typewriter default 
>> \font_math auto 
>> \font_default_family default 
>> \use_non_tex_fonts false 
>> \font_sc false 
>> \font_osf false 
>> \font_sf_scale 100 
>> \font_tt_scale 100 
>> \graphics default 
>> \default_output_format default 
>> \output_sync 0 
>> \bibtex_command default 
>> \index_command default 
>> \float_placement h 
>> \paperfontsize 12 
>> \spacing double 
>> \use_hyperref false 
>> \papersize letterpaper 
>> \use_geometry true 
>> \use_package amsmath 1 
>> \use_package amssymb 1 
>> \use_package cancel 1 
>> \use_package esint 0 
>> \use_package mathdots 1 
>> \use_package mathtools 1 
>> \use_package mhchem 1 
>> \use_package stackrel 1 
>> \use_package stmaryrd 1 
>> \use_package undertilde 1 
>> \cite_engine natbib 
>> \cite_engine_type authoryear 
>> \biblio_style plainnat 
>> \use_bibtopic false 
>> \use_indices false 
>> \paperorientation portrait 
>> \suppress_date false 
>> \justification true 
>> \use_refstyle 0 
>> \index Index 
>> \shortcut idx 
>> \color #008000 
>> \end_index 
>> \leftmargin 1in 
>> \topmargin 1in 
>> \rightmargin 1in 
>> \bottommargin 1in 
>> \secnumdepth 3 
>> \tocdepth 3 
>> \paragraph_separation indent 
>> \paragraph_indentation default 
>> \quotes_language english 
>> \papercolumns 1 
>> \papersides 1 
>> \paperpagestyle default 
>> \tracking_changes false 
>> \output_changes false 
>> \html_math_output 0 
>> \html_css_as_file 0 
>> \html_be_strict false 
>> \end_header
>> 
>> There does not seem to be an

Re: lyx2lyx fails to convert

[Stephan Witt]

Hi Tim,

you have to change your command - lyx2lyx is a folder in Resources:

$ /System/Volumes/Data/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/lyx2lyx/lyx2lyx 
-v Contrast\ paper.lyx > /dev/null
…

In case it’s a python problem the following command and it’s output is of 
interest:

$ /usr/bin/env python --version
Python 3.8.13

Stephan

> Am 21.08.2022 um 06:06 schrieb Tim Garrett :
> 
> Sorry, probably being dense here but this is what I get after finding the 
> function
> 
> /System/Volumes/Data/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/lyx2lyx -v 
> Contrast\ paper.lyx
> zsh: permission denied: 
> /System/Volumes/Data/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/lyx2lyx
> 
> Thanks for helping out here. Been a LyX user since 2001 when it was KLyX and 
> this is the first time I’ve seen this.
> 
> Tim
> 
> On 20 Aug 2022, at 3:57, Stephan Witt wrote:
> 
> Am 18.08.2022 um 18:07 schrieb Paul A. Rubin :
> 
> On 8/18/22 11:15, Tim J Garrett wrote:
> 
> Running MacOS Monterrey and getting this error message trying to open old lyx 
> files as recent as 2016:
> 
> “file.lyx is from an older version of LyX and the lyx2lyx script failed to 
> convert it.”
> 
> Unclear what to do from online forums. Any advice? I’m not a developer, so 
> step-by-step would be appreciated. I have tried installing old versions of 
> lyx but without success. Below is the lyx preamble
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Tim
> 
> #LyX 2.1 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/ 
> \lyxformat 474 
> \begin_document 
> \begin_header 
> \textclass article 
> \begin_preamble
> 
> \usepackage[left,modulo]{lineno} 
> \end_preamble 
> \options agums 
> \use_default_options false 
> \maintain_unincluded_children false 
> \language english 
> \language_package default 
> \inputencoding auto 
> \fontencoding global 
> \font_roman times 
> \font_sans default 
> \font_typewriter default 
> \font_math auto 
> \font_default_family default 
> \use_non_tex_fonts false 
> \font_sc false 
> \font_osf false 
> \font_sf_scale 100 
> \font_tt_scale 100 
> \graphics default 
> \default_output_format default 
> \output_sync 0 
> \bibtex_command default 
> \index_command default 
> \float_placement h 
> \paperfontsize 12 
> \spacing double 
> \use_hyperref false 
> \papersize letterpaper 
> \use_geometry true 
> \use_package amsmath 1 
> \use_package amssymb 1 
> \use_package cancel 1 
> \use_package esint 0 
> \use_package mathdots 1 
> \use_package mathtools 1 
> \use_package mhchem 1 
> \use_package stackrel 1 
> \use_package stmaryrd 1 
> \use_package undertilde 1 
> \cite_engine natbib 
> \cite_engine_type authoryear 
> \biblio_style plainnat 
> \use_bibtopic false 
> \use_indices false 
> \paperorientation portrait 
> \suppress_date false 
> \justification true 
> \use_refstyle 0 
> \index Index 
> \shortcut idx 
> \color #008000 
> \end_index 
> \leftmargin 1in 
> \topmargin 1in 
> \rightmargin 1in 
> \bottommargin 1in 
> \secnumdepth 3 
> \tocdepth 3 
> \paragraph_separation indent 
> \paragraph_indentation default 
> \quotes_language english 
> \papercolumns 1 
> \papersides 1 
> \paperpagestyle default 
> \tracking_changes false 
> \output_changes false 
> \html_math_output 0 
> \html_css_as_file 0 
> \html_be_strict false 
> \end_header
> 
> There does not seem to be any problem with the header. I created an empty LyX 
> document with it, and the lyx2lyx script had no issues processing it. So the 
> problem must be in the document body.
> 
> You can try the following. Find the lyx2lyx executable on your system. On 
> Debian based Linux systems, it defaults to /usr/share/lyx/lyx2lyx/lyx2lyx. I 
> have no idea where it is on a Mac, so I'll just refer to the equivalent 
> string as "". In a terminal window, run
> 
>  -v 
> 
> which should print the converted document line by line in the terminal 
> window. If it gorks, hopefully you will be able to see what it choked on and 
> possibly an error message, which you can bring back to the list.
> 
> Paul
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
> do you have any progress with your issue?
> 
> Did you update Monterey recently? Do you have a working Python installation?
> 
> 
> Stephan
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Re: lyx2lyx fails to convert

[Stephan Witt]

Am 18.08.2022 um 18:07 schrieb Paul A. Rubin :
> 
> On 8/18/22 11:15, Tim J Garrett wrote:
>> Running MacOS Monterrey and getting this error message trying to open old 
>> lyx files as recent as 2016:
>> 
>> “file.lyx is from an older version of LyX and the lyx2lyx script failed to 
>> convert it.”
>> 
>> Unclear what to do from online forums. Any advice? I’m not a developer, so 
>> step-by-step would be appreciated. I have tried installing old versions of 
>> lyx but without success. Below is the lyx preamble
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>> #LyX 2.1 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/
>> \lyxformat 474
>> \begin_document
>> \begin_header
>> \textclass article
>> \begin_preamble
>> 
>> \usepackage[left,modulo]{lineno}
>> \end_preamble
>> \options agums
>> \use_default_options false
>> \maintain_unincluded_children false
>> \language english
>> \language_package default
>> \inputencoding auto
>> \fontencoding global
>> \font_roman times
>> \font_sans default
>> \font_typewriter default
>> \font_math auto
>> \font_default_family default
>> \use_non_tex_fonts false
>> \font_sc false
>> \font_osf false
>> \font_sf_scale 100
>> \font_tt_scale 100
>> \graphics default
>> \default_output_format default
>> \output_sync 0
>> \bibtex_command default
>> \index_command default
>> \float_placement h
>> \paperfontsize 12
>> \spacing double
>> \use_hyperref false
>> \papersize letterpaper
>> \use_geometry true
>> \use_package amsmath 1
>> \use_package amssymb 1
>> \use_package cancel 1
>> \use_package esint 0
>> \use_package mathdots 1
>> \use_package mathtools 1
>> \use_package mhchem 1
>> \use_package stackrel 1
>> \use_package stmaryrd 1
>> \use_package undertilde 1
>> \cite_engine natbib
>> \cite_engine_type authoryear
>> \biblio_style plainnat
>> \use_bibtopic false
>> \use_indices false
>> \paperorientation portrait
>> \suppress_date false
>> \justification true
>> \use_refstyle 0
>> \index Index
>> \shortcut idx
>> \color #008000
>> \end_index
>> \leftmargin 1in
>> \topmargin 1in
>> \rightmargin 1in
>> \bottommargin 1in
>> \secnumdepth 3
>> \tocdepth 3
>> \paragraph_separation indent
>> \paragraph_indentation default
>> \quotes_language english
>> \papercolumns 1
>> \papersides 1
>> \paperpagestyle default
>> \tracking_changes false
>> \output_changes false
>> \html_math_output 0
>> \html_css_as_file 0
>> \html_be_strict false
>> \end_header
>> 
>> 
> 
> There does not seem to be any problem with the header. I created an empty LyX 
> document with it, and the lyx2lyx script had no issues processing it. So the 
> problem must be in the document body.
> 
> You can try the following. Find the lyx2lyx executable on your system. On 
> Debian based Linux systems, it defaults to /usr/share/lyx/lyx2lyx/lyx2lyx. I 
> have no idea where it is on a Mac, so I'll just refer to the equivalent 
> string as "". In a terminal window, run
> 
>  -v 
> 
> which should print the converted document line by line in the terminal 
> window. If it gorks, hopefully you will be able to see what it choked on and 
> possibly an error message, which you can bring back to the list.
> 
> Paul

Hi Tim,

do you have any progress with your issue?

Did you update Monterey recently? Do you have a working Python installation?

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Re: Sumatra and LyX, Foreword search is not active

[Stephan Witt]

Am 09.08.2022 um 00:30 schrieb tush via lyx-users :
> 
> I am trying to see if LyX foreword search (through synctex) works on my 
> windows 10.
> I have LyX 2.3.6 installed on windows 10.
> 
> I have set up LyX so that Sumatra opens when compiling pdfs.
> 
> I ticked a V in Document Settings->Formats->synchronize with output" and I 
> have a synctex.gz file in the 
> "C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Local\Temp\lyx_tmpdir.PgobcSaWjUZo\lyx_tmpbuf0" 
> folder.
> 
> But when I try to do "Navigate->Foreword search", the button is gray and 
> inactive.
> 
> Does anyone have an idea why? Have I forgotten something?

Did you configure the PDF Command for forward-search in LyX output preferences?

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Re: Syncing skim with LyX

[Stephan Witt]

Am 27.07.2022 um 00:45 schrieb ehud.be...@protonmail.com:
> 
> Wonderful
> 
> Synctex indeed was not activated. I inserted \synctex=-1 to the document 
> preamble and a synctex.gz file was generated and back and forth jumps work 
> fine now.
> 
> Actually, after a few checks, I prefer to not write this command in the 
> document preamble, but rather to insert it in Doc Settings->Formats->Custom 
> Macro \synctex=-1

Ok, but why is it needed?

Either you’re not using pdflatex or you didn’t do the first step of my recipe 
(enable the „synchronize with output“ option in preferences). 

Stephan

> 
> Your help is very much appreciated.
> 
> Thanks a lot!
> 
> 
> 
> --- Original Message ---
> On Tuesday, July 26th, 2022 at 8:50 PM, Stephan Witt  wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Am 25.07.2022 um 22:35 schrieb ehud.be...@protonmail.com:
>> 
>>> Stephan Witt,
>>> 
>>> Thank you very much for your detailed reply.
>>> 
>>> Only now did I try it.
>>> 
>>> Alas, it doesn't work.
>>> 
>>> I wrote a simple 2 pages document in LyX. A few words and then 
>>> \cleardoublepage and the a few words.
>>> 
>>> I select a word in LyX and go click Navigate->Foreword search
>>> 
>>> and Skim is indeed raised but I can't see any red dot as the one seen in 
>>> your screenshot.
>>> 
>>> Any idea what is else is there to fix?
>> 
>> 
>> Ok, it should work. Let’s see how to find the problem with your setup.
>> 
>> First, it’s not needed to make some selection in LyX to get forward-search 
>> working.
>> 
>> After doing the pdflatex run (you’re using pdflatex too, are you?) you can 
>> check the LaTeX log file and there is a button „Open Containing Directory“. 
>> Please open it and check the generated TeX file for the line with 
>> "\synctex=-1“ and a file named like your document plus .synctex.gz
>> 
>> I made the experiment and it looks like that:
>> 
>> $ ls -l 
>> /private/var/folders/y8/l_k5f2ms4rngwbwvt9jp53hwgt/T/lyx_tmpdir.TRMAcnQibDFe/lyx_tmpbuf2
>> total 72
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 stephan staff 88 26 Jul 10:08 newfile1.aux
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 stephan staff 4177 26 Jul 10:08 newfile1.log
>> -rw-r--r--@ 1 stephan staff 11735 26 Jul 10:08 newfile1.pdf
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 stephan staff 627 26 Jul 10:08 newfile1.synctex.gz
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 stephan staff 285 26 Jul 10:08 newfile1.tex
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 stephan staff 1094 26 Jul 10:08 newfile1.tex.dep-pdf
>> 
>> The difference between synctex active and not ist that line only:
>> 
>> $ diff -u *synctex.tex
>> --- nosynctex.tex 2022-07-26 10:08:23.0 +0200
>> +++ synctex.tex 2022-07-26 10:09:34.0 +0200
>> @@ -5,6 +5,7 @@
>> \documentclass[english]{article}
>> \usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
>> \usepackage[latin9]{inputenc}
>> +\synctex=-1
>> \usepackage{babel}
>> \begin{document}
>> Zeile 1
>> 
>> This line has to be present to get forward-search (and backward-search) 
>> working.
>> 
>> BR, Stephan
>> 
>>> --- Original Message ---
>>> On Friday, July 22nd, 2022 at 8:11 PM, Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Sorry, I don’t have the time for that. Instead I made some screen shots to 
>>>> help you to activate forward search first. This is the prerequisite for 
>>>> backward search.
>>>> 
>>>> 1. You have to enable the „synchronize with output“ option in preferences.
>>>> 
>>>> 2. Compile the document and wait for Skim to open.
>>>> 
>>>> 3. Use the LyX menu item for Forward search.
>>>> 
>>>> 4. Skim should raise and highlight the current LyX cursor position
>>>> 
>>>> Beware: the is one question by Mac OS (only once!) you have to agree:
>>>> 
>>>> If this works backward search is probably working too.
>>>> 
>>>> BR, Stephan

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Re: Syncing skim with LyX

[Stephan Witt]

Am 25.07.2022 um 22:35 schrieb ehud.be...@protonmail.com:
> 
> Stephan Witt,
> 
> Thank you very much for your detailed reply.
> 
> Only now did I try it.
> 
> Alas, it doesn't work.
> 
> I wrote a simple 2 pages document in LyX. A few words and then 
> \cleardoublepage and the a few words.
> 
> I select a word in LyX and go click Navigate->Foreword search
> 
> and Skim is indeed raised but I can't see any red dot as the one seen in your 
> screenshot.
> 
> Any idea what is else is there to fix?

Ok, it should work. Let’s see how to find the problem with your setup.

First, it’s not needed to make some selection in LyX to get forward-search 
working.

After doing the pdflatex run (you’re using pdflatex too, are you?) you can 
check the LaTeX log file and there is a button „Open Containing Directory“. 
Please open it and check the generated TeX file for the line with "\synctex=-1“ 
and a file named like your document plus .synctex.gz

I made the experiment and it looks like that:

$ ls -l 
/private/var/folders/y8/l_k5f2ms4rngwbwvt9jp53hwgt/T/lyx_tmpdir.TRMAcnQibDFe/lyx_tmpbuf2
total 72
-rw-r--r--  1 stephan  staff 88 26 Jul 10:08 newfile1.aux
-rw-r--r--  1 stephan  staff   4177 26 Jul 10:08 newfile1.log
-rw-r--r--@ 1 stephan  staff  11735 26 Jul 10:08 newfile1.pdf
-rw-r--r--  1 stephan  staff627 26 Jul 10:08 newfile1.synctex.gz
-rw-r--r--  1 stephan  staff285 26 Jul 10:08 newfile1.tex
-rw-r--r--  1 stephan  staff   1094 26 Jul 10:08 newfile1.tex.dep-pdf

The difference between synctex active and not ist that line only:

$ diff -u *synctex.tex
--- nosynctex.tex   2022-07-26 10:08:23.0 +0200
+++ synctex.tex 2022-07-26 10:09:34.0 +0200
@@ -5,6 +5,7 @@
 \documentclass[english]{article}
 \usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
 \usepackage[latin9]{inputenc}
+\synctex=-1
 \usepackage{babel}
 \begin{document}
 Zeile 1

This line has to be present to get forward-search (and backward-search) working.

BR, Stephan

> --- Original Message ---
> On Friday, July 22nd, 2022 at 8:11 PM, Stephan Witt  wrote:
> 
>> Sorry, I don’t have the time for that. Instead I made some screen shots to 
>> help you to activate forward search first. This is the prerequisite for 
>> backward search.
>> 
>> 1. You have to enable the „synchronize with output“ option in preferences.
>> 
>> 
>> 2. Compile the document and wait for Skim to open.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 3. Use the LyX menu item for Forward search.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 4. Skim should raise and highlight the current LyX cursor position
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Beware: the is one question by Mac OS (only once!) you have to agree:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> If this works backward search is probably working too.
>> 
>> BR, Stephan
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Re: Syncing skim with LyX

[Stephan Witt]

Am 20.07.2022 um 21:38 schrieb ehud.be...@protonmail.com:
> 
>> Use Cmd-Shift-Click to mark the text fragment around the clicked word in LyX.
> 
> You mean, select some word in LyX and click it while pressing on the Cmd AND 
> Shift keyboard buttons? Well, it doesn't work.

I mean you should use Command-Shift-Click (mouse click with Command and Shift 
key pressed) in Skim.

With synctex enabled the PDF-output has special markers to identify the TeX 
source code line of the TeX source files matching the PDF-text. The position of 
the mouse click in Skim is used by Skim to lookup the current TeX source code 
line of the TeX source file. This information is passed to LyX with the help of 
the lyxeditor script.

In case of a match in LyX with a document in any window of LyX the match is 
selected. On a Mac the LyX application is not raised top-most by itself. The 
osascript is used to raise the LyX application window. 

BR, Stephan

> I am attaching a screenshot of skim prefs. Maybe I have set up something 
> incorrectly.
> 
> Thanks very much!
> 
> 
> --- Original Message ---
> On Wednesday, July 20th, 2022 at 6:01 AM, Stephan Witt  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 20.07.2022 um 00:57 schrieb tush via lyx-users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org:
>> 
>>> With the help of Stephan Witt and Udicoudco, I am now using Skim to open 
>>> the pdf files produced by LyX. But I want to add SyncTeX to that.
>>> 
>>> I configured LyX and Skim according to what is written in the wiki page 
>>> (https://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/SyncTeX) but I am not sure if everything is set 
>>> up correctly or no, since I don't know how to initiate SyncTeX to work. I 
>>> double clicked a word of text in Skim and nothing happened (no change of 
>>> active window to LyX).
>>> 
>>> How does one uses SyncTeX with skim?
>> 
>> 
>> Use Cmd-Shift-Click to mark the text fragment around the clicked word in 
>> LyX. The LyX wiki mentions the arguments for the Skim part with osascript. 
>> This is required with LyX 2.3 to get the LyX window frontmost at the same 
>> time. The lyxeditor script is part of the application bundle LyX on mac.
>> 
>> BR, Stephan
>> 
>> PS: the readers on this list prefer the use of inline citation or bottom 
>> post in mails.
>> 
>>> Thanks very much for your help!
>>> --- Original Message ---
>>> On Saturday, July 16th, 2022 at 11:22 PM, Ehud Behar 
>>> ehud.be...@protonmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I am using macOS and until now, after compiling the lyx file (to tex and 
>>>> then) to a pdf file, the output was opened by the default pdf viewer 
>>>> (macOS Preview, on my computer).
>>>> 
>>>> I want to use the pdf viewer "Skim" to open the compiled pdf, with mainly 
>>>> the advantage that there are no page jumps after making changes to the 
>>>> document.
>>>> 
>>>> What are the steps needed to change this in LyX in order to implement skim 
>>>> as the pdf viewer?
>>>> 
>>>> The closest thing I came across until now is appendix C in the User 
>>>> manual, section File Handling, and section 3 in the customization manual, 
>>>> "The Preferences dialog".
>>>> 
>>>> It was a first reading and I haven't grasped everything, but at the moment 
>>>> I am not sure if my answer is covered there at all.
>>>> 
>>>> Therefore my question is if those are the places to look at all, and if 
>>>> someone can maybe redirect me to a short guide for that?
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Re: Syncing skim with LyX

[Stephan Witt]

Am 20.07.2022 um 14:46 schrieb Dr Eberhard Lisse :
> 
> Not all do.

Yes, I know at least one. :-)-O

But it’s part the LyX-Mailing list netiquette to do so.

https://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/ListNetiquette

> 
> On 20/07/2022 07:01, Stephan Witt wrote:
> [...]
>> PS: the readers on this list prefer the use of inline citation or
>> bottom post in mails.[...]
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Re: Syncing skim with LyX

[Stephan Witt]

> Am 20.07.2022 um 00:57 schrieb tush via lyx-users :
> 
> 
> With the help of Stephan Witt and Udicoudco, I am now using Skim to open the 
> pdf files produced by LyX. But I want to add SyncTeX to that.
> 
> I configured LyX and Skim according to what is written in the wiki page 
> (https://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/SyncTeX) but I am not sure if everything is set up 
> correctly or no, since I don't know how to initiate SyncTeX to work. I double 
> clicked a word of text in Skim and nothing happened (no change of active 
> window to LyX).
> 
> How does one uses SyncTeX with skim?

Use Cmd-Shift-Click to mark the text fragment around the clicked word in LyX. 
The LyX wiki mentions the arguments for the Skim part with osascript. This is 
required with LyX 2.3 to get the LyX window frontmost at the same time. The 
lyxeditor script is part of the application bundle LyX on mac.

BR, Stephan

PS: the readers on this list prefer the use of inline citation or bottom post 
in mails.

> 
> Thanks very much for your help!
> --- Original Message ---
> On Saturday, July 16th, 2022 at 11:22 PM, Ehud Behar 
>  wrote:
> 
>> I am using macOS and until now, after compiling the lyx file (to tex and 
>> then) to a pdf file, the output was opened by the default pdf viewer (macOS 
>> Preview, on my computer).
>> 
>> I want to use the pdf viewer "Skim" to open the compiled pdf, with mainly 
>> the advantage that there are no page jumps after making changes to the 
>> document.
>> 
>> What are the steps needed to change this in LyX in order to implement skim 
>> as the pdf viewer?
>> 
>> The closest thing I came across until now is appendix C in the User manual, 
>> section File Handling, and section 3 in the customization manual, "The 
>> Preferences dialog".
>> 
>> It was a first reading and I haven't grasped everything, but at the moment I 
>> am not sure if my answer is covered there at all.
>> 
>> Therefore my question is if those are the places to look at all, and if 
>> someone can maybe redirect me to a short guide for that?
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Re: MacOS 12.3.1 (Monterey) lyx2lyx script fails to convert

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Am 19.04.2022 um 11:12 schrieb Pavel Sanda via lyx-users 
:
> 
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 08:10:30AM +0200, Stephan Witt wrote:
>>>> Now you have to install Python yourself. You may download it from 
>>>> python.org (https://www.python.org/downloads/macos/). Alternatively you 
>>>> may run python in a terminal window and choose to install it from Apple. I 
>>>> recommend the first option.
>>> 
>>> Not sure if I understand it correctly - any up to date mac system won't run 
>>> lyx 2.3.6.2 (or rather its pythonic parts) anymore?
>>> If this is the case we should add some info directly to 
>>> https://www.lyx.org/Download ?
>> 
>> Yes, that would be appropriate. 
> 
> We should probably do that, I don't understand the details to write it on my 
> own though.

The only hard fact is the removal of /usr/bin/python (and all the libraries and 
eggs). So there is no out-of-the-box python anymore.

LyX is trying to use python3 while looking for python. This one 
(/usr/bin/python3) is present for a long time and a stub to ask for install of 
it. The real python3 is part of the developer tools and can be download from 
Apple freely. Of course other alternatives are available. The „official“ one 
from python.org or the python from homebrew or macports.

What the best choice for the user is depends on its background, IMO.

>> At the time macOS 12 (Monterey) came out I verified the presence of python. 
>> It was there and had version 2.7.18. While the installation of macOS update 
>> to 12.3 the python installation will be removed.
>> 
>> Apple provides python3 but it is not preinstalled anymore. There is only a 
>> stub executable asking for download and installation of it:
>> 
>> On reconfigure LyX checks for a usable python and triggers the popup window 
>> with the opportunity to install python3. If the user responds with 
>> ???Install??? and the download and install succeeds LyX has to be restarted 
>> and is usable after reconfigure.
>> 
>> I didn???t try yet how it goes if an existing LyX installation looses the 
>> python executable. I want to try that next. But all these experiments are 
>> time consuming as I have to do them in virtual machines.
> 
> I have mac with 12.1 on my desk, which I avoid touching. It has some older 
> version of LyX with both python 2 & 3 installed as I just checked.
> Is there something I can do for you?

Thank you, but I think the time consuming option with virtual machines is the 
better one.

Currently I have Monterey 12.1 with MacTeX and LyX 2.3.6.2 up and running. Next 
step is the update to 12.3.1 …

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Re: MacOS 12.3.1 (Monterey) lyx2lyx script fails to convert

[Stephan Witt]

Am 16.04.2022 um 01:52 schrieb gelfand :
> 
> Just upgraded (from Mohave!) and when attempt to open any LyX 2.2 and earlier 
> get lyx2lyx script failed to convert. Also when attempt to reconfigure get 
> system reconfiguration failed.
> 
> Did see the warning message when first launching LyX that in future OS 
> versions the application will no longer run and should be updated.
> 
> Running LyX 2.3.6.2 on Intel Mac with OS 12.3.1

Apple finally removed Python 2 in macOS 12.3 - sorry for LyX not being 
prepared. At the time LyX 2.3.6.2 was built it was announced already but not 
sure when it happens.

Now you have to install Python yourself. You may download it from python.org 
(https://www.python.org/downloads/macos/). Alternatively you may run python in 
a terminal window and choose to install it from Apple. I recommend the first 
option.

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Re: Setting up LyX on a new computer

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Am 16.03.2022 um 21:27 schrieb Hal Kierstead via lyx-users 
:
> 
> All -
> 
> I have many preference settings that I would like to transfer to a new 
> MacBook Pro. What is the approved way to do this?

The way to go is to restore your complete user from a time machine backup, IMO. 
In the past I restored the whole system from TM backup and did a system update 
afterwards.

I have much more settings (e.g. the private key rings etc.) to copy. LyX is the 
smallest problem.

In case you want a fresh OS start you have to be more careful. I’m not sure 
anymore how I did it once - but it’s really not an easy task. Google is your 
friend. Another option is to use the Apple support you have for the initial 
time period of your new device.

> Can I just copy the preference file and bind file in Application 
> Support/LyX-2.3 from one computer to the other or what? Maybe I could copy 
> the whole LyX-2.3 folder? Along the same lines, what is the best way to keep 
> my LyX setup consistent across several computers. I use dropbox to sync files.

I don’t know. I never did that.

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Re: LyX for Mac

[Stephan Witt via lyx-users]

Am 19.02.2022 um 12:34 schrieb Hal Kierstead via lyx-users 
:
> 
>> On Feb 18, 2022, at 8:11 PM, Tom Goldring via lyx-users 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I don't know how to adjust the cursor blink rate in Apple Mail, Thunderbird, 
>> Safari, etc. (if anyone does, please tell me!) but since I'm not spending a 
>> lot of time typing text into a window when I use a web browser, it isn't 
>> that much of an issue. When composing email, I usually type my text into an 
>> emacs buffer (which does allow me to turn off the blink) and then paste it 
>> into the mail client. In Windows you can turn off the blink via Control 
>> Panel -> Keyboard Properties.
>> 
>> On 2/18/22 8:38 PM, Stephan Witt wrote:
>>> Am 18.02.2022 um 20:46 schrieb Tom Goldring via lyx-users 
>>> :
>>>> I have version 2.3.6.2 on my MacBook Pro. I consider it a poor substitute 
>>>> for the Windows version. I can't turn off the blinking cursor (extremely 
>>>> annoying!), I can't change the background color (white background gives me 
>>>> a headache), hotkeys don't work, etc. Is there an alternative binary that 
>>>> I could download?
>>> Regarding the blinking cursor… it is quite common to have a blinking 
>>> cursor. I agree it might be desirable to adjust the frequency or turn it 
>>> off - but at a system wide level. I don’t know of a setting to read this 
>>> parameter from. How do you adjust the cursor in Apple Mail or Safari? How 
>>> do you adjust it with the Windows version?
>>> 
>>> BR,
>>> Stephan
>>> 
> Does 
> https://www.macissues.com/2014/12/08/how-to-change-your-macs-text-cursor-blink-rate/
>  help?

No, not really. I knew this tipp and it doesn’t help with LyX on Mac.

It has an effect for Safari and e.g. SourceTree but not with Apple Mail or LyX. 
Qt doesn’t care for it.

=== 8< Qt documentation >8 ===
cursorFlashTime : int
This property holds the text cursor's flash (blink) time in milliseconds
The flash time is the time required to display, invert and restore the caret 
display. Usually the text cursor is displayed for half the cursor flash time, 
then hidden for the same amount of time, but this may vary.
The default value on X11 is 1000 milliseconds. On Windows, the Control Panel 
value is used and setting this property sets the cursor flash time for all 
applications.
=== 8< Qt documentation >8 ===

IMO it is an Qt bug. One may work around it. But I’m not sure how to do it 
right.

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Re: LyX for Mac

[Stephan Witt via lyx-users]

Am 19.02.2022 um 04:11 schrieb Tom Goldring via lyx-users 
:
> 
> I don't know how to adjust the cursor blink rate in Apple Mail, Thunderbird, 
> Safari, etc. (if anyone does, please tell me!) but since I'm not spending a 
> lot of time typing text into a window when I use a web browser, it isn't that 
> much of an issue. When composing email, I usually type my text into an emacs 
> buffer (which does allow me to turn off the blink) and then paste it into the 
> mail client.

That seems to be weary.

> In Windows you can turn off the blink via Control Panel -> Keyboard 
> Properties.

So on windows Qt respects the OS settings and on Mac this is not the case 
(because of missing configuration options). The LyX code isn’t different on 
Windows and Mac here, AFAIK.

But there is a ticket with your issue and no solution yet:
https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/9287

> On 2/18/22 8:38 PM, Stephan Witt wrote:
>> Am 18.02.2022 um 20:46 schrieb Tom Goldring via lyx-users 
>> :
>>> I have version 2.3.6.2 on my MacBook Pro. I consider it a poor substitute 
>>> for the Windows version. I can't turn off the blinking cursor (extremely 
>>> annoying!), I can't change the background color (white background gives me 
>>> a headache), hotkeys don't work, etc. Is there an alternative binary that I 
>>> could download?
>> Regarding the blinking cursor… it is quite common to have a blinking cursor. 
>> I agree it might be desirable to adjust the frequency or turn it off - but 
>> at a system wide level. I don’t know of a setting to read this parameter 
>> from. How do you adjust the cursor in Apple Mail or Safari? How do you 
>> adjust it with the Windows version?
>> 
>> BR,
>> Stephan
>> 
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Re: LyX for Mac

[Stephan Witt via lyx-users]

Am 18.02.2022 um 20:46 schrieb Tom Goldring via lyx-users 
:
> 
> I have version 2.3.6.2 on my MacBook Pro. I consider it a poor substitute for 
> the Windows version. I can't turn off the blinking cursor (extremely 
> annoying!), I can't change the background color (white background gives me a 
> headache), hotkeys don't work, etc. Is there an alternative binary that I 
> could download?

Regarding the blinking cursor… it is quite common to have a blinking cursor. I 
agree it might be desirable to adjust the frequency or turn it off - but at a 
system wide level. I don’t know of a setting to read this parameter from. How 
do you adjust the cursor in Apple Mail or Safari? How do you adjust it with the 
Windows version?

BR, 
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Re: dictionary

[Stephan Witt via lyx-users]

Am 28.01.2022 um 15:27 schrieb Patrick Dupre via lyx-users 
:
> 
> OK,
>  
> then it is enchant.
>  
> It has been changed. In the past, I used to use ispell.

Please, don’t top post!

IMO, you have two options:

1. encrypt the mysteries of enchant and find it yourself, as LyX is not 
responsible for this operation.
Read the doc here: https://abiword.github.io/enchant/

2. Switch to a less intransparent beast and use e.g. Hunspell.

BR, Stephan
 
> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 at 3:15 PM
> From: "Stephan Witt" 
> To: "Patrick Dupre" 
> Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
> Subject: Re: dictionary
> Am 28.01.2022 um 15:00 schrieb Patrick Dupre via lyx-users 
> :
> 
> It is really msyterious:
> 
> These what is installed:
> 
> hunspell-en-GB-0.20140811.1-18.fc34.noarch
> aspell-fr-0.50-33.fc34.x86_64
> hunspell-1.7.0-9.fc34.x86_64
> gtkspell3-3.0.10-7.fc34.x86_64
> gspell-1.9.1-1.fc34.x86_64
> hunspell-fr-6.2-7.fc34.noarch
> aspell-en-2020.12.07-2.fc34.x86_64
> hunspell-filesystem-1.7.0-9.fc34.x86_64
> hunspell-en-0.20140811.1-18.fc34.noarch
> hunspell-en-US-0.20140811.1-18.fc34.noarch
> gtkspell-2.0.16-23.fc34.x86_64
> aspell-0.60.8-7.fc34.x86_64
> texlive-numspell-svn45441-39.fc34.noarch
> 
> 
> but lyx does not seem to detect any of them
> 
> I am attaching the configure.lyx file
>  
> Please check your LyX settings and tell me your configuration. E.g., I’m 
> using the Apple speller (native) on Mac. This is a system service and the 
> local dictionary is hidden.
>  
> 
>  
> What’s your setting?
>  
> Stephan
> 
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Re: dictionary

[Stephan Witt via lyx-users]

Am 28.01.2022 um 10:34 schrieb Patrick Dupre via lyx-users 
:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Where his my own dictionary (that one that I use when I make "add") ?

Hello Patrick,

the answer depends on the spell checker engine you’re using.

The options are aspell, hunspell, enchant and the Apple speller. Not all are 
available on all platforms. Please check your settings and tell which one 
you’re using.

BR, Stephan

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Re: Graphics clipping in LyX 2.3.6

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Am 12.01.2022 um 21:23 schrieb Stephen Buonopane via lyx-users 
:
> 
> Ever since I upgraded to LyX 2.3.6.2 (on Mac OS X 10.15.7) I have been having 
> issues when I use “clip to coordinates” in the LyX: Graphics window. 
> The bounding box of the on-screen LyX preview is different than the pdf 
> output (using pdflatex). This worked fine when I was in LyX 2.3.5.2
> 
> I am using an external pdf file which gets converted to on-screen PNG with 
> the following command in the converters for PDF (graphics) -> PNG
> sips --resampleWidth 600 --setProperty format png $$i --out $$o
> 
> Below are two snippets from the Code Preview Pane for the exact same LyX file 
> opened in each version.The same clipping coordinates are being converted to 
> different values of the viewport parameter by the two different versions of 
> LyX
> 
> LyX 2.3.6.2 Does NOT output correct pdf file 
> \begin{enumerate*}
> \item \textbf{Shear and Moment Diagrams}\\
> For the simply-supported beam shown below: \\
> \includegraphics[viewport=0bp 340bp 200bp 440bp,clip]{images/hw1_2022}
> \end{enumerate*}
> 
> LyX 2.3.5.2 DOES output correct pdf file 
> \begin{enumerate*}
> \item \textbf{Shear and Moment Diagrams}\\
> For the simply-supported beam shown below: \\
> \includegraphics[viewport=0bp 316.965bp 186.bp 
> 410.19bp,clip]{images/hw1_2022}
> \end{enumerate*}
> 
> I looked at the release notes for 2.3.6 and the only possibly related item I 
> could find was 
> "- Fix clipping of vector images and when exporting from command line  
> (follow-up to bug 11180).”
> but I could not find bug 11180 in the bug tracker, so not sure if this is 
> related.
> 
> Any ideas? 

No idea ATM. But a link to the bug:
https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/11180

BR,
Stephan

> For now I will revert to LyX 2.3.5.2.
> 
> Thanks,
> Steve

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Re: "Lyx must be updated"

[Stephan Witt via lyx-users]

Am 17.12.2021 um 06:57 schrieb Daniel :
> 
> On 2021-12-16 22:16, Stephan Witt wrote:
>> Am 16.12.2021 um 09:56 schrieb Murat Yildizoglu via lyx-users 
>> :
>>> 
>>> I have tried to send this to lyx-devel but I am not a member.
>>> 
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>> 
>>>> From: lyx-devel-ow...@lists.lyx.org
>>>> Subject: "Lyx must be updated"
>>>> Date: 16 December 2021 at 15:55:19 GMT+7
>>>> To: myi...@gmail.com
>>>> 
>>>> Due to the massive amount of spam that this list receives, non-members
>>>> are not permitted to post to this list. Please subscribe if you would
>>>> like to post. (If you are trying to file a bug report, you can instead
>>>> do that at https://www.lyx.org/trac/newticket.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: Murat Yildizoglu 
>>>> Subject: "Lyx must be updated"
>>>> Date: 16 December 2021 at 15:55:13 GMT+7
>>>> To: LyX Developers 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> This is what OSX 12.1 tells me now with Lyx  LyX-2.3.6.2.
>>>> 
>>>> ""LyX" needs to be updated
>>>> This app will not work with future versions of
>>>> macOS and needs to be updated to improve
>>>> compatibility. Contact the developer for more
>>>> information.”
>>>> 
>>>> I imagine that the next version will be good with future versions of OSX.
>>>> 
>>>> I have just wanted to inform.
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Murat
>> Hi Murat,
>> that’s probably because of the LyX-2.3.6.2 package is pure Intel code and 
>> the friendly OS wants to warn you about the fact the Apple company is on the 
>> way to drop the support for the Intel CPUs.
> 
> Searching on the wen for the warning, I've only found evidence for the 
> warning being triggered by the python version. What makes you think that this 
> is not the case?

Hi Daniel,

I didn’t say it’s not the case. I said it’s probably because of the CPU 
architecture. Maybe I’m wrong.

I remember to see the very same warning with macOS High Sierra 10.13.4 for 
programs using 32bit Intel CPU code.

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Re: "Lyx must be updated"

[Stephan Witt via lyx-users]

Am 16.12.2021 um 09:56 schrieb Murat Yildizoglu via lyx-users 
:
> 
> I have tried to send this to lyx-devel but I am not a member.
> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>> From: lyx-devel-ow...@lists.lyx.org
>> Subject: "Lyx must be updated"
>> Date: 16 December 2021 at 15:55:19 GMT+7
>> To: myi...@gmail.com
>> 
>> Due to the massive amount of spam that this list receives, non-members
>> are not permitted to post to this list. Please subscribe if you would
>> like to post. (If you are trying to file a bug report, you can instead
>> do that at https://www.lyx.org/trac/newticket.
>> 
>> 
>> From: Murat Yildizoglu 
>> Subject: "Lyx must be updated"
>> Date: 16 December 2021 at 15:55:13 GMT+7
>> To: LyX Developers 
>> 
>> 
>> This is what OSX 12.1 tells me now with Lyx  LyX-2.3.6.2.
>> 
>> ""LyX" needs to be updated
>> This app will not work with future versions of
>> macOS and needs to be updated to improve
>> compatibility. Contact the developer for more
>> information.”
>> 
>> I imagine that the next version will be good with future versions of OSX.
>> 
>> I have just wanted to inform.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Murat

Hi Murat,

that’s probably because of the LyX-2.3.6.2 package is pure Intel code and the 
friendly OS wants to warn you about the fact the Apple company is on the way to 
drop the support for the Intel CPUs.

The upcoming LyX-2.4 and the next LyX-2.3 release will be build for both CPU 
architectures - the Intel and the Apple M1 chips.

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Re: How to find LyX' compile strategy?

[Stephan Witt]

Am 08.12.2021 um 18:16 schrieb Steve Litt :
> 
> Dr Eberhard Lisse said on Wed, 8 Dec 2021 17:22:34 +0200
> 
>> What's wrong with
>> 
>>  lyx -f -e pdf5 lawnmower.lyx
>> 
>> or if you must, with
>> 
>>  lyx -f -e luatex lawnmower.lyx && latexmk lawnmower.tex
>> 
>> el
> 
> Thanks el!
> 
> Aside from the fact that latexmk needed a -lualatex arg, nothing was
> wrong with them. And they gave me additional evidence that the root
> cause might not be about the difference in compile method between
> internal LyX and external shellscripts or commands.

Hi Steve,

I’m not sure - but IMO the production of the index files should mention
in the logs the fact of inconsistent page numbers. As long as this happens
one has to redo the latex compilation process including the index creation.

AFAIK LyX scans the logs and is doing exactly that.

Please read the log files of your tools after the first run. 
Probably you’ll find some recommendation about this there.

Sorry, if you are knowing this please ignore this message.

Stephan

> 
> It turns out that, whether with eyeballs, my shellscript, or either of
> your commands, one index item is spectacularly out of bounds,
> supposedly covering pages 21-132, which is patently false. I'm now
> going to use this one reproducible index error to create an MWE, either
> for myself, or for review on the list after suitable Latin has been
> substituted for the proprietary verbiage.
> 
> So thanks very much, because you helped get me over a serious stumbling
> block.
> 
> SteveT
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Re: How to paste into LyX-Code ?

[Stephan Witt]

Am 17.11.2021 um 10:01 schrieb Steve Litt :
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have a C program I want to show in a book. So I use the LyX-Code
> environment, but when I copy the C file to the clipboard and paste it
> into the LyX-Code environment, all the newlines are removed. What's the
> right way to show a C program file within LyX?

Hi Steve,

you may insert a Listings inset and configure it to point to your C file.

After that you can define the lines you want to show and many more things.

See here for the options:
https://mirror.dogado.de/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/listings/listings.pdf

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Re: Permanence of strange .tex file

[Stephan Witt]

Am 28.08.2021 um 14:36 schrieb Rich Shepard :
> 
> On Sat, 28 Aug 2021, Stephan Witt wrote:
> 
>> on quit LyX removes it’s temporary files and directories. This doesn’t
>> happen on sudden death of LyX. The question now is: is /tmp the location
>> for temporary files and directories?
>> 
>> On MacOS it’s not /tmp if you don’t set the path explicitly to /tmp.
> 
> Stephan,
> 
> Yes, LyX has always stored temporary files in /tmp (appropriately enough)
> which is a default directory in linux. And I've not had LyX crash in
> decades; it's closed properly.

Ok, I mentioned it because you said you’ve killed LyX. If you’ve quit LyX
regularly then the temporary files are removed and you cannot find them anymore.
The running process has this open and therefore you can see it. It’s on disk
present until you kill the background process and then the disk space is freed.

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Re: Permanence of strange .tex file

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Am 27.08.2021 um 22:51 schrieb Rich Shepard :
> 
> On Fri, 27 Aug 2021, Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> 
>> Do you by any chance have instant preview turned on in Tools > Preferences > 
>> Look & Feel > Display.
> 
> Paul,
> 
> Huh! It was turned on, but I've no recollection of ever doing this. And, as
> I wrote, it's never before been an issue. So I turned it off.
> 
>> The presence of "preview" in the file name suggests to me that LyX might
>> have been compiling something for instant preview.
> 
> Could be. I opened LyX, looked in preferences (but not Display), exited,
> then found Display and turned off instant preview. There were to *.tex files
> using the CPUs after I exited the second time. Killed both processes.
> 
>> As far as the undead process, if LyX spawns a latex / pdflatex / whatever
>> process to compile something and then you kill LyX, the child process does
>> not get killed automatically (at least in my experience). You have to nuke
>> it manually. I would expect the lyxpreviewN17596.tex file to be stashed in
>> the LyX temporary directory for the parent document.
> 
> If yesterday's files were in /tmp find should have found them. It didn’t.

Hi Rich,

on quit LyX removes it’s temporary files and directories. This doesn’t happen 
on sudden death of LyX. The question now is: is /tmp the location for temporary 
files and directories?

On MacOS it’s not /tmp if you don’t set the path explicitly to /tmp.

Stephan

> 
> Anyway, however the instant preview became active it's now off. Must be
> pandemic related, eh? :-)
> 
> Stay well,
> 
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Re: Lyx/TeX/Skim all working under Monterey beta

[Stephan Witt]

Am 07.08.2021 um 22:36 schrieb Chris Menzel :
> 
> LyX folk,
> 
> An anecdotal data point for the Mac users: I installed the latest Monterey 
> beta (4) on my MacBook Pro (Intel) and, after a couple hours of use, LyX, 
> MacTeX, and Skim are all working just fine. Indeed, all of my software seems 
> to be running with no problem at all, including, importantly, my 
> cloud/networking apps (Dropbox, Google Drive, Sync, and ExpanDrive).

Hi Chris,

thank you for sharing your experience. These are good news.

Stephan

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Re: LyX for M1 Mac on Silicon under Rosetta 2

[Stephan Witt]

Am 30.03.2021 um 20:00 schrieb David Bickel :
> 
> Has anyone tried LyX in Rosetta 2 on a Silicon (M1) Mac?

Yes.

> If so, what issues did you encounter?

I’ve tried LyX-2.3.6.2 with Qt-5.12.9. I cannot see any problem until now. It 
works. 

But there is at least one report for a problem with the presentation of file 
names in tabs.
I cannot reproduce it myself.

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Re: Losing session settings on Mac (was: Using Lyx with git (instead of RCS))

[Stephan Witt]

Am 03.03.2021 um 22:25 schrieb Pavel Sanda :
> 
> On Wed, Mar 03, 2021 at 10:00:46PM +0100, Robert Neumann wrote:
>>> Am 03.03.2021 um 17:44 schrieb Pavel Sanda :
>>> On Wed, Mar 03, 2021 at 05:27:39PM +0100, Robert Neumann wrote:
>> (-is there a way to have the version-control-menue showed permanently, I 
>> have to activate it manually everytime
> I do not understand this question. You mean toolbar?
 yes of course, sorry for the incorrect description???
>>> 
>>> I do not experience your problem. The toolbars might get reset once upon a 
>>> time
>>> (for example if you are upgrading to a newer version of lyx) but generally
>>> stay set consistently across sessions (linux here). 
>>> 
>>> If you
>>> 1) close all your lyx sessions
>>> 2) open new one and set toolbars acccording to your needs
>>> 3) close session 
>>> 4) open new session again the toolbar is lost?
>> 
>> not, not really: It works on 10.13 and 10.15 if I open Lyx directly, 
>> If I double-click on a file in the finder it is gone...
>> both LyX 2.3.6.3
> 
> I see, then this is bug specific to mac only.
> There must be something different when lyx is launched via its icon and
> when clicking just on the file.
> 
> CC-ing lyx-devel, Stephan might have a clue what's going on.

I cannot reproduce on Mac either. 

But there are reports sometimes about LyX’s settings not being persistent.

There are user errors:

https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/11558

or these are either Qt problems or LyX - I cannot say.

https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/10364

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Re: find next?

[Stephan Witt]

Am 21.02.2021 um 07:12 schrieb Daniel :
> 
> On 2021-02-21 02:12, David Pesetsky wrote:
>> Perhaps there is a font size problem?  This is what I see.  Notice that not 
>> only are the "<" and ">" indicators missing, but "Case sensitive" overlaps 
>> the next checkbox.  (Hoping this listserv doesn't strip out graphics 
>> attachments.)
> 
> I see the attached with current master and macOS 10.15.7 (Catalina). There 
> are the arrows but the checkboxes overlap.
> 

Yes, the presentation of the arrows is work made after alpha3 was out.

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Re: Need a little help with version control

[Stephan Witt]

Am 12.02.2021 um 10:52 schrieb list_em...@icloud.com:
> 
>> 
>> On Feb 10, 2021, at 6:06 AM, Stephan Witt  wrote:
>> 
>> Am 10.02.2021 um 11:34 schrieb list_em...@icloud.com:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 9, 2021, at 5:16 AM, Stephan Witt  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Am 09.02.2021 um 13:01 schrieb list_em...@icloud.com:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’m trying to learn version control (SVN) with LyX on macOS. I have a 
>>>>> little past experience with SVn in another context and I’m in Chapter 2 
>>>>> of the book at svnbook.red-bean.com as a refresher. I am the only person 
>>>>> who will access the repository which is on my own computer.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have set up new repository and imported three files, a LyX document and 
>>>>> two graphics files. (I am using a nice GUI app on the Mac). I can check 
>>>>> out the LyX document, edit it, and commit. But what I can’t figure out is 
>>>>> what is the LyX File -> Version Control -> Register item for? I think it 
>>>>> wants to add the current LyX file, which is assumed to be not under 
>>>>> version control, to the repository. But _what_ repository? I made a 
>>>>> second LyX file named Registering.lyx and typed “Registering a document” 
>>>>> into the dialog box. Then I get this message:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Some problem occurred while running the command:
>>>>> 'ci -q -u -i -t-"Registering a document" "Registering.lyx"'.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think I am somehow am missing “Step 0” in setting things up.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks as always for any hints.
>>>> 
>>>> The problem with the "Register Item“ menu item is its missing cleverness. 
>>>> It assumes the RCS version control system. That’s why it is unusable with 
>>>> all other systems like SVN and GIT.
>>>> 
>>>> You have to register (add) it to your repository manually or with the help 
>>>> of your GUI. Later you’re able to work with the LyX version control 
>>>> features.
>>>> 
>>>> Stephan
>>> 
>>> Thanks, but still not working.
>>> 
>>> I create a new repository on my computer, then import or add a LyX 
>>> document. The new doc appears as expected in the repository. I checkout the 
>>> file into a working copy and edit with LyX, then commit the changes, make 
>>> comparisons, etc. with my SVN client. In other words, I believe that I can 
>>> manage things with my SVN client as expected. 
>>> 
>>> However, I cannot get the built-in LyX functionality to work. When the 
>>> working copy of the LyX file is open, none of the expected File -> Version 
>>> Control -> menu items appear, only Register…. Also, most of the icons in 
>>> the Version Control Toolbar become active—only Register and Insert Version 
>>> Info do anything, the latter inserting “No version control.”
>>> 
>>> The working copy that I checked out is apparently known as related to SVN 
>>> because it has the .svn directory. Also (this is an update from my original 
>>> post) when attempting the Regiser… action, I get a message
>>> 
>>> Some problem occurred while running the command:
>>> 'svn add -q "Learning SVN in LyX.lyx”'.
>>> 
>>> So LyX recognizes somehow the presence of SVN but is trying to perform an 
>>> add operation on a file that is already in the repository.
>>> 
>>> Clearly I am missing a basic step.
>>> 
>>> Jerry
>> 
>> Ok, it would be better if I verify my statements sometimes.
>> 
>> I’ve checked it myself now and it works for me. See the log below:
>> 
>> 13:59:54.564: Öffne Dokument ~/tmp/playground/Shortcuts-test2.lyx...
>> 13:59:54.679: svn info "Shortcuts-test2.lyx"
>> 13:59:54.693: svn: warning: W155010: The node 
>> '/Users/stephan/tmp/playground/Shortcuts-test2.lyx' was not found.
>> 13:59:54.693: 
>> 13:59:54.694: svn: E29: Could not display info for all targets because 
>> some targets don't exist
>> 13:59:54.705: Dokument ~/tmp/playground/Shortcuts-test2.lyx ist geöffnet.
>> 13:59:54.706: (file-open: ⌃O)support/Systemcall.cpp (276): Systemcall: 'svn 
>> info "Shortcuts-test2.lyx"' finished with exit code 1
>> 14:00:07.860: svn proplist "Shortcuts-test2.lyx"
>> 14:00:07.877: svn: warning: W25: 
>> '/Users/stephan/tmp/p

Re: Need a little help with version control

[Stephan Witt]

Am 10.02.2021 um 11:34 schrieb list_em...@icloud.com:
> 
>> 
>> On Feb 9, 2021, at 5:16 AM, Stephan Witt  wrote:
>> 
>> Am 09.02.2021 um 13:01 schrieb list_em...@icloud.com:
>>> 
>>> I’m trying to learn version control (SVN) with LyX on macOS. I have a 
>>> little past experience with SVn in another context and I’m in Chapter 2 of 
>>> the book at svnbook.red-bean.com as a refresher. I am the only person who 
>>> will access the repository which is on my own computer.
>>> 
>>> I have set up new repository and imported three files, a LyX document and 
>>> two graphics files. (I am using a nice GUI app on the Mac). I can check out 
>>> the LyX document, edit it, and commit. But what I can’t figure out is what 
>>> is the LyX File -> Version Control -> Register item for? I think it wants 
>>> to add the current LyX file, which is assumed to be not under version 
>>> control, to the repository. But _what_ repository? I made a second LyX file 
>>> named Registering.lyx and typed “Registering a document” into the dialog 
>>> box. Then I get this message:
>>> 
>>> Some problem occurred while running the command:
>>> 'ci -q -u -i -t-"Registering a document" "Registering.lyx"'.
>>> 
>>> I think I am somehow am missing “Step 0” in setting things up.
>>> 
>>> Thanks as always for any hints.
>> 
>> The problem with the "Register Item“ menu item is its missing cleverness. It 
>> assumes the RCS version control system. That’s why it is unusable with all 
>> other systems like SVN and GIT.
>> 
>> You have to register (add) it to your repository manually or with the help 
>> of your GUI. Later you’re able to work with the LyX version control features.
>> 
>> Stephan
> 
> Thanks, but still not working.
> 
> I create a new repository on my computer, then import or add a LyX document. 
> The new doc appears as expected in the repository. I checkout the file into a 
> working copy and edit with LyX, then commit the changes, make comparisons, 
> etc. with my SVN client. In other words, I believe that I can manage things 
> with my SVN client as expected. 
> 
> However, I cannot get the built-in LyX functionality to work. When the 
> working copy of the LyX file is open, none of the expected File -> Version 
> Control -> menu items appear, only Register…. Also, most of the icons in the 
> Version Control Toolbar become active—only Register and Insert Version Info 
> do anything, the latter inserting “No version control.”
> 
> The working copy that I checked out is apparently known as related to SVN 
> because it has the .svn directory. Also (this is an update from my original 
> post) when attempting the Regiser… action, I get a message
> 
> Some problem occurred while running the command:
> 'svn add -q "Learning SVN in LyX.lyx”'.
> 
> So LyX recognizes somehow the presence of SVN but is trying to perform an add 
> operation on a file that is already in the repository.
> 
> Clearly I am missing a basic step.
> 
> Jerry

Ok, it would be better if I verify my statements sometimes.

I’ve checked it myself now and it works for me. See the log below:

13:59:54.564: Öffne Dokument ~/tmp/playground/Shortcuts-test2.lyx...
13:59:54.679: svn info "Shortcuts-test2.lyx"
13:59:54.693: svn: warning: W155010: The node 
'/Users/stephan/tmp/playground/Shortcuts-test2.lyx' was not found.
13:59:54.693: 
13:59:54.694: svn: E29: Could not display info for all targets because some 
targets don't exist
13:59:54.705: Dokument ~/tmp/playground/Shortcuts-test2.lyx ist geöffnet.
13:59:54.706: (file-open: ⌃O)support/Systemcall.cpp (276): Systemcall: 'svn 
info "Shortcuts-test2.lyx"' finished with exit code 1
14:00:07.860: svn proplist "Shortcuts-test2.lyx"
14:00:07.877: svn: warning: W25: 
'/Users/stephan/tmp/playground/Shortcuts-test2.lyx' is not under version control
14:00:07.877: svn: E29: Could not display properties of all targets because 
some targets are not versioned
14:00:07.878: svn: E29: Illegal target for the requested operation
support/Systemcall.cpp (276): Systemcall: 'svn proplist "Shortcuts-test2.lyx"' 
finished with exit code 1
14:00:16.886: svn add -q "Shortcuts-test2.lyx"
14:00:16.984: svn info "Shortcuts-test2.lyx"
14:00:17.007: svn proplist "Shortcuts-test2.lyx"
14:00:17.024: Dokument ~/tmp/playground/Shortcuts-test2.lyx neu geladen.

Conclusion:

1. The working environment is LyX-2.3.6.2 and svn binary in path (verify it in 
terminal).
2. You may check and possibly update your LyX app.
3. You may activate the status message pane and redo the register VC command.

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Re: Need a little help with version control

[Stephan Witt]

Am 09.02.2021 um 13:01 schrieb list_em...@icloud.com:
> 
> I’m trying to learn version control (SVN) with LyX on macOS. I have a little 
> past experience with SVn in another context and I’m in Chapter 2 of the book 
> at svnbook.red-bean.com as a refresher. I am the only person who will access 
> the repository which is on my own computer.
> 
> I have set up new repository and imported three files, a LyX document and two 
> graphics files. (I am using a nice GUI app on the Mac). I can check out the 
> LyX document, edit it, and commit. But what I can’t figure out is what is the 
> LyX File -> Version Control -> Register item for? I think it wants to add the 
> current LyX file, which is assumed to be not under version control, to the 
> repository. But _what_ repository? I made a second LyX file named 
> Registering.lyx and typed “Registering a document” into the dialog box. Then 
> I get this message:
> 
> Some problem occurred while running the command:
> 'ci -q -u -i -t-"Registering a document" "Registering.lyx"'.
> 
> I think I am somehow am missing “Step 0” in setting things up.
> 
> Thanks as always for any hints.

The problem with the "Register Item“ menu item is its missing cleverness. It 
assumes the RCS version control system. That’s why it is unusable with all 
other systems like SVN and GIT.

You have to register (add) it to your repository manually or with the help of 
your GUI. Later you’re able to work with the LyX version control features.

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Re: Mac Os X 10.10

[Stephan Witt]

Am 08.12.2020 um 20:58 schrieb schmieder.corinna 
:
> 
> The button for the preview is grey as well as the save button and this is the 
> error I get everytime. 
> 
> 

You need to install the engine to typeset LaTeX. The recommended package is 
MacTeX.

Please read the instructions for Mac OS X presented at LyX’s download page.

Stephan

> 
> 
> Von meinem/meiner Galaxy gesendet
> 
> 
>  Ursprüngliche Nachricht 
> Von: Stephan Witt 
> Datum: 08.12.20 20:39 (GMT+01:00)
> An: "schmieder.corinna" 
> Cc: lyx-users 
> Betreff: Re: Mac Os X 10.10
> 
> Am 08.12.2020 um 19:54 schrieb schmieder.corinna 
> :
> > 
> > Hi Stephan,
> > Thanks for your reply
> > I've been able to install the version, but it's not possible to save a file 
> > or see the preview. 
> > Any ideas? 
> 
> Hi Corinna,
> 
> is there any error message? What are you doing and what happens exactly?
> 
> Stephan
> 
> > Von meinem/meiner Galaxy gesendet
> > 
> > 
> >  Ursprüngliche Nachricht 
> > Von: Stephan Witt 
> > Datum: 07.12.20 21:16 (GMT+01:00)
> > An: Corinna Schmieder 
> > Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
> > Betreff: Re: Mac Os X 10.10
> > 
> > Am 07.12.2020 um 20:50 schrieb Corinna Schmieder 
> > :
> > > 
> > > Hello, 
> > > I’m a student from Germany. For my Seminar work I’ve to use LyX. But I 
> > > don’t know which Version I have to install on my old Mac Book with Os X 
> > > 10.10. Can you please help me?
> > > Thanks a lot!
> > 
> > Hi Corinna,
> > 
> > please install the latest stable version LyX-2.3.6 if possible.
> > 
> > If it doesn’t work for you I’ll try to help you.
> > 
> > Best regards, Stephan
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Re: Mac Os X 10.10

[Stephan Witt]

Am 08.12.2020 um 19:54 schrieb schmieder.corinna 
:
> 
> Hi Stephan,
> Thanks for your reply
> I've been able to install the version, but it's not possible to save a file 
> or see the preview. 
> Any ideas? 

Hi Corinna,

is there any error message? What are you doing and what happens exactly?

Stephan

> Von meinem/meiner Galaxy gesendet
> 
> 
>  Ursprüngliche Nachricht 
> Von: Stephan Witt 
> Datum: 07.12.20 21:16 (GMT+01:00)
> An: Corinna Schmieder 
> Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
> Betreff: Re: Mac Os X 10.10
> 
> Am 07.12.2020 um 20:50 schrieb Corinna Schmieder 
> :
> > 
> > Hello, 
> > I’m a student from Germany. For my Seminar work I’ve to use LyX. But I 
> > don’t know which Version I have to install on my old Mac Book with Os X 
> > 10.10. Can you please help me?
> > Thanks a lot!
> 
> Hi Corinna,
> 
> please install the latest stable version LyX-2.3.6 if possible.
> 
> If it doesn’t work for you I’ll try to help you.
> 
> Best regards, Stephan
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Re: Mac Os X 10.10

[Stephan Witt]

Am 07.12.2020 um 20:50 schrieb Corinna Schmieder 
:
> 
> Hello, 
> I’m a student from Germany. For my Seminar work I’ve to use LyX. But I don’t 
> know which Version I have to install on my old Mac Book with Os X 10.10. Can 
> you please help me?
> Thanks a lot!

Hi Corinna,

please install the latest stable version LyX-2.3.6 if possible.

If it doesn’t work for you I’ll try to help you.

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Re: Mac Binary with Qt 5.12.9

[Stephan Witt]

> Am 06.12.2020 um 16:33 schrieb Joel Kulesza :
> 
> On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 6:44 PM Richard Kimberly Heck  wrote:
> Hi, all,
> 
> Due to bug #12042 (https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/12042), Stephan Witt
> has produced an OSX package built with Qt 5.12.9. This is a more
> up-to-date version of Qt than we've been using. If the package works
> well, then we'll replace the binary for 2.3.6 with it. But first, we
> need to make sure it works well! We don't expect there to be any
> problems, but you never know. Could some brave souls test it out and let
> us know how it works?
> 
> It can be found here:
> 
> http://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/
> 
> Riki
> 
> I'm happy to test, and will report back when I've done so.  Is there any 
> (mis)behavior I should be on the lookout for?

No, I’m not aware of any specific problem. The difference between this one and 
the previous version is the Qt library version only. I simply had no chance to 
use this library version with LyX 2.3.x yet.

Problems may arise with document presentation and ui effects only. The LyX code 
ist the same.

The probability of show stoppers is very low. The library version 5.12.9 should 
be stable.

Thanks for testing.

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Re: LyX on Apple silicon?

[Stephan Witt]

Am 19.11.2020 um 04:41 schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck :
> 
> On 11/18/20 3:54 PM, Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
>> I seem to recall that during the previous processor switch there were
>> Apps in a combined mode, forgot what the name was, which would run on
>> both processors, so I assume XCode will eventually do that.
> 
> I'm sure that the ordinary LyX binaries will still run, under some
> compatibility mode. But I took the question to concern truly native M1
> binaries.
> 
> RKH
> 
>> On 2020-11-17 18:55 , Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
>>> On 11/17/20 10:55 AM, Chris Menzel wrote:
 2.  What are the plans for creating native LyX binaries for these new
 Macs?
>>> Stephan will know better than I, but presumably there are two options.
>>> (i) Someone who has one of these things is able to compile the source
>>> and produce the binaries.  It would take a bit to get the build
>>> environment set up properly, but once that's done, I don't think it's
>>> that hard.  (ii) It becomes possible to cross-compile for M1 on, say,
>>> Linux.  At the moment, that does not seem to be possible, and maybe
>>> there are reasons it will never be.  Apple does not seem terribly
>>> supportive of that kind of effort.

Sorry, I’m not responsive these days.

AFAICS the situation is similar to transition from PowerPC to Intel CPUS.

1. There is emulation software to run Intel code on M1 CPUs (like Rosetta was) 
in MacOSX 11 (Big Sur).
2. There is the so called universal binary format which allows to provide 
binaries for both CPU architectures.
3. There is Xcode12 which is able to produce code for both architectures in 
universal format on Intel or M1.
4. There is a developer program for eligible persons to support the transition 
(hardware+software).

All these points are available these days (Xcode12 is beta!).

For LyX I conclude: we are not in a hurry.
IMO, the way to go is using clang from Xcode12 to build LyX for Intel and M1 as 
universal binary.
But I’m unable to prove this claim now.

Best regards, Stephan

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacOS_Big_Sur
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developer_Transition_Kit_(2020)
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Re: OSX (Mojave) asks confirmation for opening Lyx

[Stephan Witt]

Am 07.08.2020 um 06:37 schrieb Murat Yildizoglu :
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Each time I open Lyx, OSX asks me to confirm that I want to open it really, 
> after having spent some time to show me a progress bar. This is not a real 
> problem, but a bit of a hassle. Is there an easy way to get rid of this 
> verification each time?
> 
> Thank you very much for your attention and help.
> 
> Murat

Hi Murat,

there is a ticket that sounds similar:
https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/11894

Do you have this problem or another one? What version of LyX you’re using?
What’s the setting of App-Download of gatekeeper in your security settings?

There is an extended attribute for files in newer OSX versions.
This can be used to mark applications downloaded from non-Apple sources.
LyX is not available via AppStore so there is chance it gets marked.

The workaround mentioned in the ticket is wrong. The correct one is IMO:

$ sudo xattr -c -r /Applications/Lyx.app

Use it if your problem matches the description in the ticket.

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Re: Lyx 2.3.5.1 and 2.3.5.2 won't open old files on Mac [Solved]

[Stephan Witt]

Am 06.07.2020 um 18:45 schrieb Kornel Benko :
> 
> Am Mon, 6 Jul 2020 11:58:03 -0400
> schrieb "Paul A. Rubin" :
> 
>> On 7/6/20 11:37 AM, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
>>> On 7/6/20 4:28 AM, Niklas Huldén wrote:  
 Den 01-07-2020 kl. 17:53, skrev Richard Kimberly Heck:  
> On 7/1/20 6:59 AM, Niklas Huldén wrote:  
>> Hello!
>> 
>> I installed LyX 2.3.5 in June on my MacBook Air 13 (Catalina) and
>> noticed that I could not open files from the "Recent files" list in
>> the File menu. The program opened an empty document with the name of
>> the recent file. I could open old documents using the "Open.." choise
>> from the menu.
>> 
>> When I installed version 2.3.5.1 I hoped this behaiviour would have
>> been corrected, but now I could't even use the "Open..." choise. It
>> allways opens up an empty file with the name om the file that should
>> have opened. Same with version 2.3.5.2 that I installed today. For
>> some reason I can open the default Splash.lyx that sits on the "Recent
>> files"
>> 
>> I have backupped my Preferenses file and started up an default version
>> of LyX but the same behaviour continues. What could be the reason for
>> this? Have anyone had similar problems?  
> If you can open LyX from a terminal, with argument "-dbg files", you
> might get more information. You can also  do this by opening the
> messages pane (View> Messages Pane) and activating "files" debug
> messages. (Go to Settings on the pane, click "Selected" then choose
> "files").
> 
> I would guess there is something wrong with the path that LyX is
> getting.
> 
> Riki
> 
> 
 Ok, thanks! I did that but the log shows nothing unusual. But the
 problem seems related only to files that reside in Dropbox folders.
 Lyx opens the files directly but does not download the contents from
 the Dropbox cloud. If i open a folder in the Dropbox app and
 doubleclick on a LyX-file it opens correctly in LyX. It used to work
 without hazzle from the LyX-menus before. Maybe it is a Dropbox problem.  
>>> It sounds like it. I assume there must be some notification to the
>>> Dropbox app that a file has been accessed. LyX wouldn't provide that,
>>> but the OS, or possibly Qt in this case, might.
>>> 
>>> Riki
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> It may be specific to the Mac OS. I just uploaded (via web browser) a 
>> .lyx file to a shared Dropbox folder owned by a coauthor, then opened it 
>> in LyX via the file menu with no problems. This was on Linux Mint.
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
> 
> What is the setting of \use_native_filedialog (possibly in preferences? : it 
> defaults to
> 'true' if not set)

On a Mac it’s shipped w/o any assignment. So it should be true.

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Re: "Open Recent". How to extend the limit from 50 to 100?

[Stephan Witt]

Am 20.06.2020 um 08:29 schrieb typ...@mac.com:
> 
> Thanks JMarc,
> 
> 1. Using LyX Version 2.3.5-1 (2 June 2020), I see that the “Maximum last 
> files” is 50. (Via Preferences -> Look @ Feel -> User Interface.)

Yes, that’s true. It was changed from 20 to 50 on 2016-01-13.

> 2. Where do I find that "there is a hardcoded bound at 100”?

The first hard coded bound is 50 indeed. It’s in the source code in header file 
src/LyXRC.h line 547 for LyX 2.3.5.

The 2nd upper limit of 100 is in source code file src/Session.cpp line 47 the 
assignment of absolute_max_last_files.

This is the limit JMarc had in mind, AFAICS.

> 3. Can I access that limit?

You can’t change it without recompile the complete application.

> 4. PS: I do not see why a file needs to be opened to populate the list that I 
> require??

In fact it’s the list of last accessed files. What do you expect? What is the 
list that you requires? In your first mail you wrote:

> I’d like to review the last 100 files that I’ve opened.

Indeed this list is stored in the file "~/Library/Application 
Support/LyX-2.3/session“

You may fill it yourself if you know how to do it. The first two lines of this 
file are:

## Automatically generated lyx session file 
## Editing this file manually may cause lyx to crash.

So, you’re warned …

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Re: catalina

[Stephan Witt]

Hello Gareth,

thank you for using LyX.

Were did you look for the 64-bit version of LyX on Mac already?

I can see it here: https://www.lyx.org/Download#toc4

Best regards,
Stephan

> Am 30.04.2020 um 12:14 schrieb Gareth Williams :
> 
> Hello, 
> 
> Apologies for quite probably using the wrong email address, maybe you can 
> help me.  I am wondering if there will be an upgrade (or is there already) 
> for catalina by making this lyx app for mac 64 bit please?  Bug fan of it and 
> would like to keep using it.
> 
> thanks,
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 2.3.4.2 'Emergency' Release

[Stephan Witt]

Am 12.02.2020 um 17:54 schrieb emile lunardon :
> 
> 
> I compiled the new version of LyX 2.3.4.2. The crash while trying to use the 
> Ø symbol has disappeared. However, there is still an anomaly: if after 
> writing this symbol, you try to write a second one next to it, nothing 
> happens (this also happens with the Å symbol which is to the left of Ø on the 
> presentation palette). It seems to me that the cursor stays inside the 
> character instead of being positioned ready to receive a new character as it 
> happens with most symbols.
> 
> I don't think it's an urgent bug to fix since by moving the cursor with the 
> mouse you get the ability to insert a new character.

Yes, I’ve seen this too. But this is already fixed in the 2.4.x series. So as 
it is no crash I didn't try to solve it.

> Bug hunting is a never ending exercise!

Very true.

Stephan

> Le mer. 12 févr. 2020 à 14:54, Rich Shepard  a 
> écrit :
> On Wed, 12 Feb 2020, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
> 
> > This is an emergency release that fixes four bugs in 2.3.4. Only the first
> > two really warrant an emergency release, but while we're at it...
> 
> Riki,
> 
> My thanks to you and all the development team for being so responsive and
> effective. All us uses greatly appreciate your time and efforts with our
> indespensible writing tool.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Rich
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Re: Bug in Lyx 1.3.4 ?

[Stephan Witt]

> Am 05.02.2020 um 23:33 schrieb emile lunardon :
> 
> I have installed LyX 2.3.4 on Windows10 and the same crash already seen on 
> LyX for Linux occurs when trying to enter the two Math Symbols : 
> $\textrm{Ø}\textrm{Å}$
> 
> Le mer. 5 févr. 2020 à 08:32, emile lunardon  a 
> écrit :
> When I try to enter, under LyX 1.3.4 (Linux), one of the two Math symbols 
> shown in the attached file (written with LyX 1.3.3), there is a crash of LyX 
> 1.3.4 with the attached messages.
> 
> Can someone confirm this strange phenomena ?

I can confirm your bug with Qt5 on macOS with LyX 2.3.4. I think this is the 
version you’re talking about all the time.

One has to use the math toolbar and there choose the symbol Å from the 
miscellaneous pane.

The backtrace is:

(lldb) bt
* thread #1, queue = 'com.apple.main-thread', stop reason = EXC_BAD_ACCESS 
(code=1, address=0x18)
frame #0: 0x0001000699dc 
LyX`lyx::Buffer::params(this=0x) at Buffer.cpp:719:9
frame #1: 0x00010079fa18 LyX`lyx::(anonymous 
namespace)::Parser::parse1(this=0x7ffeefbf5b20, grid=0x7ffeefbf23e0, 
flags=128, mode=TEXT_MODE, numbered=false) at MathParser.cpp:2080:20
  * frame #2: 0x000100790987 LyX`lyx::(anonymous 
namespace)::Parser::parse(this=0x7ffeefbf5b20, array=0x000113353690, 
flags=64, mode=TEXT_MODE) at MathParser.cpp:782:2
frame #3: 0x00010079f18c LyX`lyx::(anonymous 
namespace)::Parser::parse1(this=0x7ffeefbf5b20, grid=0x7ffeefbf5a30, 
flags=0, mode=MATH_MODE, numbered=false) at MathParser.cpp:2013:6
frame #4: 0x000100790987 LyX`lyx::(anonymous 
namespace)::Parser::parse(this=0x7ffeefbf5b20, array=0x7ffeefbf6530, 
flags=0, mode=MATH_MODE) at MathParser.cpp:782:2
frame #5: 0x000100790874 
LyX`lyx::mathed_parse_cell(ar=0x7ffeefbf6530, str=L"\\textrm \\AA", 
f=NORMAL) at MathParser.cpp:2156:37
frame #6: 0x0001007c28d2 LyX`lyx::asArray(str=L"\\textrm \\AA", 
ar=0x7ffeefbf6530, pf=NORMAL) at MathSupport.cpp:990:38
frame #7: 0x0001006deba4 
LyX`lyx::InsetMathNest::doDispatch(this=0x0001112cde10, 
cur=0x000106149098, cmd=0x7ffeefbf9068) at InsetMathNest.cpp:1237:4
frame #8: 0x00010065baa2 
LyX`lyx::InsetMathGrid::doDispatch(this=0x0001112cde10, 
cur=0x000106149098, cmd=0x7ffeefbf9068) at InsetMathGrid.cpp:1733:18
frame #9: 0x00010067e615 
LyX`lyx::InsetMathHull::doDispatch(this=0x0001112cde10, 
cur=0x000106149098, cmd=0x7ffeefbf9068) at InsetMathHull.cpp:2024:18
frame #10: 0x000100811520 
LyX`lyx::Inset::dispatch(this=0x0001112cde10, cur=0x000106149098, 
cmd=0x7ffeefbf9068) at Inset.cpp:325:2
frame #11: 0x0001001e018b 
LyX`lyx::Cursor::dispatch(this=0x000106149098, cmd0=0x00011123dd68) at 
Cursor.cpp:337:11
frame #12: 0x000100d876b4 
LyX`lyx::frontend::GuiView::dispatchToBufferView(this=0x00011159b6f0, 
cmd=0x00011123dd68, dr=0x7ffeefbfc7a0) at GuiView.cpp:3687:15
frame #13: 0x000100d80df6 
LyX`lyx::frontend::GuiView::dispatch(this=0x00011159b6f0, 
cmd=0x00011123dd68, dr=0x7ffeefbfc7a0) at GuiView.cpp:4343:4
frame #14: 0x000100a96008 
LyX`lyx::frontend::GuiApplication::dispatch(this=0x000105d0a1d0, 
cmd=0x00011123dd68, dr=0x7ffeefbfc7a0) at GuiApplication.cpp:2076:19
frame #15: 0x000100a8ff88 
LyX`lyx::frontend::GuiApplication::dispatch(this=0x000105d0a1d0, 
cmd=0x00011123dd68) at GuiApplication.cpp:1405:3
frame #16: 0x00010037a4ea LyX`lyx::dispatch(action=0x00011123dd68) 
at LyX.cpp:1462:19
frame #17: 0x000100a41c4b 
LyX`lyx::frontend::Action::action(this=0x00011334a560) at Action.cpp:87:2
frame #18: 0x000100a41d51 
LyX`lyx::frontend::Action::qt_static_metacall(_o=0x00011334a560, 
_c=InvokeMetaMethod, _id=1, _a=0x7ffeefbfc970) at moc_Action.cpp:81:21
frame #19: 0x00010554d63a QtCore`QMetaObject::activate(QObject*, int, 
int, void**) + 2298
frame #20: 0x00010474e185 
QtWidgets`QAction::activate(QAction::ActionEvent) + 309
frame #21: 0x000104841be3 QtWidgets`QAbstractButtonPrivate::click() + 
147
frame #22: 0x000104842d6c 
QtWidgets`QAbstractButton::mouseReleaseEvent(QMouseEvent*) + 268
frame #23: 0x000104939bbf 
QtWidgets`QToolButton::mouseReleaseEvent(QMouseEvent*) + 15
frame #24: 0x0001047931d2 QtWidgets`QWidget::event(QEvent*) + 450
frame #25: 0x00010493a14f QtWidgets`QToolButton::event(QEvent*) + 319
frame #26: 0x0001047576ff 
QtWidgets`QApplicationPrivate::notify_helper(QObject*, QEvent*) + 271
frame #27: 0x00010475a59d QtWidgets`QApplication::notify(QObject*, 
QEvent*) + 7373
frame #28: 0x000100a9d033 
LyX`lyx::frontend::GuiApplication::notify(this=0x000105d0a1d0, 
receiver=0x0001114debf0, event=0x7ffeefbfd060) at 
GuiApplication.cpp:2712:24
frame #29: 0x00010551c684 
QtCore`QCoreApplication::notifyInternal2(QObject*, QEvent*) + 

Re: Lyx v 2.3.X - severe Problems

[Stephan Witt]

Am 18.08.2019 um 14:23 schrieb Matthias Görlach :
> 
> Hi,

Hi Matthias, the people on this mailing list like to get the answers below the 
questions.
 
> command line didnt do it.
> 
> I sudo-ed your command - it ran through (logfile  attached); 
> lyx reacts the same as before.

The log file look indeed similar - but sudo isn’t appropriate here.
The configuration run checks the availability of system components
for ordinary users, i.e. for you.

ATM, I have no idea why the module detection stops at algorithm2e.module.
This is the problem, IMO.

Is your LyX installation complete? The directory 
/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/layouts should contain 231 files.
$ ls /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/layouts|wc
 231 2313964
$ ls -1R /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources|wc
42373917   76461
The complete tree has 4237 items.

To check another thing: there is an automatic upgrade in configure run.
Perhaps it copies some problematic contents from your 2.2 installation.
To circumvent this you may try these commands (no sudo please):
$ mkdir /tmp/LyX
$ cd /tmp/LyX
$ python -tt /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/configure.py 
--binary-dir=/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/MacOS/

After your configure operation in /tmp/LyX you’ll probably have the same
log file as before. I’d like to know where the contents of /tmp/LyX is
different to mine:
$ ls -ltr /tmp/LyX
total 744
drwxr-xr-x  2 stephan  wheel  64 18 Aug 20:47 bind
drwxr-xr-x  2 stephan  wheel  64 18 Aug 20:47 clipart
drwxr-xr-x  2 stephan  wheel  64 18 Aug 20:47 doc
drwxr-xr-x  2 stephan  wheel  64 18 Aug 20:47 examples
drwxr-xr-x  2 stephan  wheel  64 18 Aug 20:47 images
drwxr-xr-x  2 stephan  wheel  64 18 Aug 20:47 kbd
drwxr-xr-x  2 stephan  wheel  64 18 Aug 20:47 layouts
drwxr-xr-x  2 stephan  wheel  64 18 Aug 20:47 scripts
drwxr-xr-x  2 stephan  wheel  64 18 Aug 20:47 templates
drwxr-xr-x  2 stephan  wheel  64 18 Aug 20:47 ui
-rw-r--r--  1 stephan  wheel   12617 18 Aug 20:47 clsFiles.lst
-rw-r--r--  1 stephan  wheel  211862 18 Aug 20:47 styFiles.lst
-rw-r--r--  1 stephan  wheel4448 18 Aug 20:47 bstFiles.lst
-rw-r--r--  1 stephan  wheel1922 18 Aug 20:47 bibFiles.lst
-rw-r--r--  1 stephan  wheel 234 18 Aug 20:47 bbxFiles.lst
-rw-r--r--  1 stephan  wheel 175 18 Aug 20:47 cbxFiles.lst
-rw-r--r--  1 stephan  wheel   15640 18 Aug 20:47 lyxmodules.lst
-rw-r--r--  1 stephan  wheel1986 18 Aug 20:47 lyxciteengines.lst
-rw-r--r--  1 stephan  wheel 348 18 Aug 20:47 xtemplates.lst
-rw-r--r--  1 stephan  wheel   10480 18 Aug 20:47 textclass.lst
-rw-r--r--  1 stephan  wheel1444 18 Aug 20:47 packages.lst
-rw-r--r--  1 stephan  wheel   20254 18 Aug 20:47 lyxrc.defaults
-rw-r--r--  1 stephan  wheel   65778 18 Aug 20:47 configure.log

Sorry, I forgot to give you the advise to work in a temporary directory last 
time.
I’m afraid you have to cleanup the working directory you’ve used for your 
attempt
to run LyX configure script (your home directory?).

There are the following directories:
bind clipart doc examples images kbd layouts scripts templates ui
and some list files.

Best
Stephan

> 
> Best
> 
> Matthias
> 
> On 18.08.19 13:59, Stephan Witt wrote:
>> Am 18.08.2019 um 09:03 schrieb Matthias Görlach 
>> 
>> :
>> 
>>> sorry, stephan,
>>> 
>>> not sure if i put you addressee yesterday (only see cc, no "to") - here the 
>>> mail meant for you and riki.
>>> 
>> Hi Matthias,
>> 
>> the start of the configure run looks normal. But the end is not ok.
>> 
>> Your configure log ends with:
>> ...
>> INFO: +Indexing TeX files... 
>> INFO: Indexing files of type cls
>> Indexing files of type sty
>> Indexing files of type bst
>> Indexing files of type bib
>> Indexing files of type bbx
>> Indexing files of type cbx
>> INFO:done
>> DEBUG: Removing file lyxmodules.lst
>> DEBUG: Removing file chkmodules.tex
>> INFO: +checking list of modules... 
>> INFO: /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/layouts/algorithm2e.module
>> ...
>> 
>> Mine has these contents:
>> ...
>> INFO: +Indexing TeX files... 
>> INFO: Indexing files of type cls
>> Indexing files of type sty
>> Indexing files of type bst
>> Indexing files of type bib
>> Indexing files of type bbx
>> Indexing files of type cbx
>> INFO:done
>> DEBUG: Removing file lyxmodules.lst
>> DEBUG: Failed to remove file chkmodules.tex
>> INFO: +checking list of modules...
>> INFO: /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/layouts/fixme.module
>> INFO: /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/layouts/pdfform.module
>> INFO: /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/layouts/sweave.module
>> IN

Re: Lyx v 2.3.X - severe Problems

[Stephan Witt]

ayout file:scrlttr2 could not be found.
> 
> Nothing of this happens after reinstall of 2.2.4
> 
> I attach here my letter template - just in case...
> 
> Also in the config log it says:
> 
> INFO: +checking for "libreoffice"...  no
> INFO: +checking for "gimp"...  no
> INFO: +checking for "firefox"...  no
> etc
> 
> but they are on board!
> 
> I reply here only to the two of you (not the UsersList) - as it might be only 
> a arcane situation (as I understand from your emails)
> 
> Many thanx & Best
> 
> Matthias
> 
> On 17.08.19 10:59, Stephan Witt wrote:
>> Am 16.08.2019 um 17:04 schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck 
>> :
>> 
>>> On 8/16/19 6:01 AM, Stephan Witt wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Am 15.08.2019 um 23:00 schrieb Matthias Görlach 
>>>> 
>>>> :
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> after running and using Lyx for maybe 10 years, I finally tried to 
>>>>> upgrade from v 2.2.4 to 2.3.2 and 2.3.3.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This resulted in unusability or continuously repeated error messages 
>>>>> relating to "missing document classes", something about "missing library" 
>>>>> and finally to "LyX will only have minimal functionality because no text 
>>>>> classes have been found. You can either try to configure LyX normally, 
>>>>> try to reconfigure without checking your LaTeX installation, or continue."
>>>>> 
>>>>> I tried a lot - to no avail - incl newsgroups, Wiki etc etc
>>>>> Reconfigure didnt do a thing - neither a complete new install of the 
>>>>> recent MacTEX suite, reinstall of Lyx etc etc. Other TEX distribs (e.g. 
>>>>> mac texmaker) worked flawlessly.
>>>>> My System MacOS X, 10.12.6 Sierra incl latest patches on a MacBook Pro 
>>>>> (MacBookPro9,2).
>>>>> 
>>>>> ONLY completely removing any traces of Lyx and reinstalling Lyx 2.2.4 
>>>>> solved the problem - its running fine.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Accd to the Lyx web site, the latest release of Lyx (2.3.3) should be 
>>>>> running fine on my system - so what is the issue???
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any hints/help available??
>>>>> 
>>>> Hi Matthias,
>>>> 
>>>> as others said already - it should work.
>>>> 
>>>> What can be done to diagnose the problem? I would need to know what the 
>>>> LyX configure run did.
>>>> 
>>>> There is a folder in your user directory named ~/Library/Application 
>>>> Support/LyX-2.3. This is the location to look for the file configure.log. 
>>>> Please send it to the users list or in a private mail to me.
>>>> 
>>> I could be wrong, of course, but it smells like a permissions problem.
>>> We've seen this kind of thing in other cases, where configure.py can't
>>> write to the relevant folder. If not, the log may not exist.
>>> 
>> That would surprise me. On a Unix system and a Mac one should be able
>> to write to the directories below the home directory. LyX runs with
>> user privileges on a Mac all the time - permission problems shouldn’t
>> exist.
>> 
>> Stephan 
>> 
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> 
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Re: Lyx v 2.3.X - severe Problems

[Stephan Witt]

Am 16.08.2019 um 17:04 schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck :
> 
> On 8/16/19 6:01 AM, Stephan Witt wrote:
>> Am 15.08.2019 um 23:00 schrieb Matthias Görlach 
>> :
>>> Hi,
>>> after running and using Lyx for maybe 10 years, I finally tried to upgrade 
>>> from v 2.2.4 to 2.3.2 and 2.3.3.
>>> 
>>> This resulted in unusability or continuously repeated error messages 
>>> relating to "missing document classes", something about "missing library" 
>>> and finally to "LyX will only have minimal functionality because no text 
>>> classes have been found. You can either try to configure LyX normally, try 
>>> to reconfigure without checking your LaTeX installation, or continue."
>>> 
>>> I tried a lot - to no avail - incl newsgroups, Wiki etc etc
>>> Reconfigure didnt do a thing - neither a complete new install of the recent 
>>> MacTEX suite, reinstall of Lyx etc etc. Other TEX distribs (e.g. mac 
>>> texmaker) worked flawlessly.
>>> My System MacOS X, 10.12.6 Sierra incl latest patches on a MacBook Pro 
>>> (MacBookPro9,2).
>>> 
>>> ONLY completely removing any traces of Lyx and reinstalling Lyx 2.2.4 
>>> solved the problem - its running fine.
>>> 
>>> Accd to the Lyx web site, the latest release of Lyx (2.3.3) should be 
>>> running fine on my system - so what is the issue???
>>> 
>>> Any hints/help available??
>> Hi Matthias,
>> 
>> as others said already - it should work.
>> 
>> What can be done to diagnose the problem? I would need to know what the LyX 
>> configure run did.
>> 
>> There is a folder in your user directory named ~/Library/Application 
>> Support/LyX-2.3. This is the location to look for the file configure.log. 
>> Please send it to the users list or in a private mail to me.
> 
> I could be wrong, of course, but it smells like a permissions problem.
> We've seen this kind of thing in other cases, where configure.py can't
> write to the relevant folder. If not, the log may not exist.

That would surprise me. On a Unix system and a Mac one should be able
to write to the directories below the home directory. LyX runs with
user privileges on a Mac all the time - permission problems shouldn’t
exist.

Stephan 

Re: Lyx v 2.3.X - severe Problems

[Stephan Witt]

Am 15.08.2019 um 23:00 schrieb Matthias Görlach :
> 
> Hi,
> after running and using Lyx for maybe 10 years, I finally tried to upgrade 
> from v 2.2.4 to 2.3.2 and 2.3.3.
> 
> This resulted in unusability or continuously repeated error messages relating 
> to "missing document classes", something about "missing library" and finally 
> to "LyX will only have minimal functionality because no text classes have 
> been found. You can either try to configure LyX normally, try to reconfigure 
> without checking your LaTeX installation, or continue."
> 
> I tried a lot - to no avail - incl newsgroups, Wiki etc etc
> Reconfigure didnt do a thing - neither a complete new install of the recent 
> MacTEX suite, reinstall of Lyx etc etc. Other TEX distribs (e.g. mac 
> texmaker) worked flawlessly.
> My System MacOS X, 10.12.6 Sierra incl latest patches on a MacBook Pro 
> (MacBookPro9,2).
> 
> ONLY completely removing any traces of Lyx and reinstalling Lyx 2.2.4 solved 
> the problem - its running fine.
> 
> Accd to the Lyx web site, the latest release of Lyx (2.3.3) should be running 
> fine on my system - so what is the issue???
> 
> Any hints/help available??

Hi Matthias,

as others said already - it should work.

What can be done to diagnose the problem? I would need to know what the LyX 
configure run did.

There is a folder in your user directory named ~/Library/Application 
Support/LyX-2.3. This is the location to look for the file configure.log. 
Please send it to the users list or in a private mail to me.

Stephan

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Re: hyphenation point in bib file

[Stephan Witt]

Am 02.05.2019 um 08:27 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann :
> 
> 
> 
> On 01.05.19 22:27, Paul A. Rubin wrote:
>> On 5/1/19 7:23 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: 
>>> Does somebody know how I can use a hyphenation point in a bib file? I use a 
>>> two column page layout in my lax document and a word is not broken, thus 
>>> running in the next column. 
>>> 
>>> Wolfgang 
>>> 
>> You can insert {\-} in the .bib file to indicate an optional hyphenation 
>> point. 
>> 
>> Paul 
>> 
> Thanks, Axel and Paul. Inserting just ~ did not work, {\~}worked in this case:
> 
> Trans{\-}lation-independent circadian control of the cell cycle in a 
> unicellular photosynthetic eukaryote
> 
>  Miyagishima, Shin-ya et al. (2014). “Trans-
>  lation-independent circadian control of
>  the cell cycle in a unicellular photosyn-
>  thetic eukaryote.” In: Nature communi-
>  cations 5, p. 3807.
> 
> but not here
> 
> A transcriptionally and functionally distinct PD-1, 
> {\-}javax.xml.bind.JAXBElement{\-}@7a062e7f, CD8,{\-} 
> javax.xml.bind.JAXBElement{\-}@2110cbd6, T cell pool with predictive 
> potential in non-small-cell lung cancer treated with PD-1 blockade.

I don't believe this title is correct. It looks like the (wrong) output of a 
text-processing utility.

Stephan

> 
>  Thommen, Daniela S. et al. (2018). “A tran-
>  scriptionally and functionally distinct
>  PD-1, javax.xml.bind.JAXBElement@7a062e7f,
>  CD8, javax.xml.bind.JAXBElement@2110cbd6,
>  T cell pool with predictive potential in
>  non-small-cell lung cancer treated with
>  PD-1 blockade.” In: Nature medicine 24,
>  pp. 994–1004.
> 
>  Wang, Yaping et al. (2017). “Upregula-
>  tion of circadian gene ’hClock’ contribu-
>  tion to metastasis of colorectal cancer.”
>  In: International journal of oncology 50,
>  pp. 2191–2199.
> 
> I can live with it, since this citation happens to be in the right column and 
> is still readable.
> 
> Wolfgang
> 
> 

Re: Exporting ePub / XML: always SIGSEV

[Stephan Witt]

8
> ( 20) 20 CoreFoundation 0x7fff30050dd1 __CFRunLoopDoSources0 : 20 
> CoreFoundation 0x7fff30050dd1 __CFRunLoopDoSources0 + 195
> ( 21) 21 CoreFoundation 0x7fff3005037a __CFRunLoopRun : 21 CoreFoundation 
> 0x7fff3005037a __CFRunLoopRun + 1219
> ( 22) 22 CoreFoundation 0x7fff3004fc64 CFRunLoopRunSpecific : 22 
> CoreFoundation 0x7fff3004fc64 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 463
> ( 23) 23 HIToolbox 0x7fff2f2e6ab5 RunCurrentEventLoopInMode : 23 
> HIToolbox 0x7fff2f2e6ab5 RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 293
> ( 24) 24 HIToolbox 0x7fff2f2e66f4 ReceiveNextEventCommon : 24 HIToolbox 
> 0x7fff2f2e66f4 ReceiveNextEventCommon + 371
> ( 25) 25 HIToolbox 0x7fff2f2e6568 
> _BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInModeWithFilter : 25 HIToolbox 
> 0x7fff2f2e6568 _BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInModeWithFilter + 64
> ( 26) 26 AppKit 0x7fff2d5a1363 _DPSNextEvent : 26 AppKit 
> 0x7fff2d5a1363 _DPSNextEvent + 997
> ( 27) 27 AppKit 0x7fff2d5a0102 -[NSApplication: 27 AppKit 
> 0x7fff2d5a0102 -[NSApplication(NSEvent) 
> _nextEventMatchingEventMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 1362
> ( 28) 28 AppKit 0x7fff2d59a165 -[NSApplication run] : 28 AppKit 
> 0x7fff2d59a165 -[NSApplication run] + 699
> ( 29) 29 libqcocoa.dylib 0x00010925f73d 
> _ZN21QCocoaEventDispatcher13processEventsE6QFlagsIN10QEventLoop17ProcessEventsFlagEE
>  : 29 libqcocoa.dylib 0x00010925f73d 
> _ZN21QCocoaEventDispatcher13processEventsE6QFlagsIN10QEventLoop17ProcessEventsFlagEE
>  + 2445
> ( 30) 30 QtCore 0x0001067536e1 
> _ZN10QEventLoop4execE6QFlagsINS_17ProcessEventsFlagEE : 30 QtCore 
> 0x0001067536e1 _ZN10QEventLoop4execE6QFlagsINS_17ProcessEventsFlagEE + 417
> ( 31) 31 QtCore 0x000106758288 _ZN16QCoreApplication4execEv : 31 QtCore 
> 0x000106758288 _ZN16QCoreApplication4execEv + 392
> ( 32) 32 lyx 0x0001053a2841 _ZN3lyx3LyX4execERiPPc : 32 lyx 
> 0x0001053a2841 _ZN3lyx3LyX4execERiPPc + 1009
> ( 33) 33 lyx 0x000105284d1f main : 33 lyx 0x000105284d1f main + 79
> ( 34) 34 libdyld.dylib 0x7fff5d29ded9 start : 34 libdyld.dylib 
> 0x7fff5d29ded9 start + 1
> 
> 
> 
> Am 25. Apr. 2019, 22:50 +0200 schrieb Stephan Witt :
>> Am 25.04.2019 um 22:14 schrieb jezZiFeR :
>>> 
>>> Dear Stephan,
>>> 
>>> with the tutorial it seems that I also do not get a SIGSEV in some cases, 
>>> but I also get it when I go via:
>>> file–export–export as…
>>> 
>>> When I tried this for.html I also got this message: »Kann keinen 
>>> LaTeX-Befehl für das Zeichen '⌃' (Code-Punkt 0x2303) finden.
>>> Einige Zeichen Ihres Dokuments sind mit der gewählten Kodierung 
>>> wahrscheinlich nicht darstellbar.
>>> Eine Änderung der Dokumentkodierung auf 'utf8' könnte helfen.«
>>> 
>>> This means something like the is no LaTeX-command for »^« and it is 
>>> suggested to change the document’s coding to utf 8, which is not possible 
>>> for the tutorial-file.
>> 
>> Yes, this is a problem with the tutorial in LyX 2.3.2 and will be fixed in 
>> 2.3.3.
>> 
>>> 
>>> Maybe it is interesting, that the dialogue of two different documents (mine 
>>> & German tutorial) produce different export-possibilities and the tutorial 
>>> has much more. I add two screenshots to make it clearer.
>> 
>> Hmmm, the export possibilities efficiently depend on the existing 
>> converters. The longer list doesn’t necessarily mean more possibilities… I 
>> don’t know off-hand how the lists are constructed and why they contain 
>> useless entries.
>> 
>>> 
>>> Excuse me, what is the »sack trace«? Should I send you the details of the 
>>> SIGSEV?
>> 
>> Yes, please.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Stephan
>> 
>>> I will continue trying some more documents tomorrow.
>>> 
>>> Thank you, all best
>>> Jess
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Am 25. Apr. 2019, 21:52 +0200 schrieb Stephan Witt :
>>>> Am 25.04.2019 um 18:56 schrieb jezZiFeR :
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I try to export ePubs for a while now and it never worked in different 
>>>>> configurations. LyX was always freezing. In the moment I use OS 10.14.3, 
>>>>> Intel and LyX 2.3.2 with TeXLive 2018.
>>>>> 
>>>>> When I do the following:
>>>>> + file – export as – DocBook (XML) and then try to save I get the 
>>>>> follwing error:
>>>>> »Keine Informationen vorhanden, um das Format DocBook (XML) zu 
>>>>> exportieren.«
>>>>> In English this means something like »There is no information to export 
>>>>> the format DocBook (XML).
>>>>> + Now I click »cancel« and get a SIGSEV-signal, like every time.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Does anybody have a hint what I could do? Would be very good to use XML, 
>>>>> maybe there is a workaround.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks, all best
>>>>> Jess
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Jess,
>>>> 
>>>> I’m on Mac OS 10.14.4 with LyX 2.3.2. I’m unable to export to DocBook too. 
>>>> But - at least with the Tutorial - I don’t get a crash on Cancel.
>>>> 
>>>> Can you send me the stack trace please and tell me if it happens with 
>>>> every LyX document or with some of your documents only?
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Stephan
>>> >> 22.04.20.png>
>> 

Re: Exporting ePub / XML: always SIGSEV

[Stephan Witt]

Am 25.04.2019 um 22:14 schrieb jezZiFeR :
> 
> Dear Stephan,
> 
> with the tutorial it seems that I also do not get a SIGSEV in some cases, but 
> I also get it when I go via:
> file–export–export as…
> 
> When I tried this for.html I also got this message: »Kann keinen LaTeX-Befehl 
> für das Zeichen '⌃' (Code-Punkt 0x2303) finden. 
> Einige Zeichen Ihres Dokuments sind mit der gewählten Kodierung 
> wahrscheinlich nicht darstellbar.
> Eine Änderung der Dokumentkodierung auf 'utf8' könnte helfen.«
> 
> This means something like the is no LaTeX-command for »^« and it is suggested 
> to change the document’s coding to utf 8, which is not possible for the 
> tutorial-file.

Yes, this is a problem with the tutorial in LyX 2.3.2 and will be fixed in 
2.3.3.

> 
> Maybe it is interesting, that the dialogue of two different documents (mine & 
> German tutorial) produce different export-possibilities and the tutorial has 
> much more. I add two screenshots to make it clearer.

Hmmm, the export possibilities efficiently depend on the existing converters. 
The longer list doesn’t necessarily mean more possibilities… I don’t know 
off-hand how the lists are constructed and why they contain useless entries.

> 
> Excuse me, what is the »sack trace«? Should I send you the details of the 
> SIGSEV?

Yes, please.

Best regards,
Stephan

> I will continue trying some more documents tomorrow.
> 
> Thank you, all best
> Jess
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Am 25. Apr. 2019, 21:52 +0200 schrieb Stephan Witt :
>> Am 25.04.2019 um 18:56 schrieb jezZiFeR :
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I try to export ePubs for a while now and it never worked in different 
>>> configurations. LyX was always freezing. In the moment I use OS 10.14.3, 
>>> Intel and LyX 2.3.2 with TeXLive 2018.
>>> 
>>> When I do the following:
>>> + file – export as – DocBook (XML) and then try to save I get the follwing 
>>> error:
>>> »Keine Informationen vorhanden, um das Format DocBook (XML) zu exportieren.«
>>> In English this means something like »There is no information to export the 
>>> format DocBook (XML).
>>> + Now I click »cancel« and get a SIGSEV-signal, like every time.
>>> 
>>> Does anybody have a hint what I could do? Would be very good to use XML, 
>>> maybe there is a workaround.
>>> 
>>> Thanks, all best
>>> Jess
>> 
>> Hello Jess,
>> 
>> I’m on Mac OS 10.14.4 with LyX 2.3.2. I’m unable to export to DocBook too. 
>> But - at least with the Tutorial - I don’t get a crash on Cancel.
>> 
>> Can you send me the stack trace please and tell me if it happens with every 
>> LyX document or with some of your documents only?
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Stephan
>  22.04.20.png>

Re: Exporting ePub / XML: always SIGSEV

[Stephan Witt]

Am 25.04.2019 um 18:56 schrieb jezZiFeR :
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I try to export ePubs for a while now and it never worked in different 
> configurations. LyX was always freezing. In the moment I use OS 10.14.3, 
> Intel and LyX 2.3.2 with TeXLive 2018.
> 
> When I do the following:
> + file – export as – DocBook (XML) and then try to save I get the follwing 
> error:
> »Keine Informationen vorhanden, um das Format DocBook (XML) zu exportieren.«
> In English this means something like »There is no information to export the 
> format DocBook (XML).
> + Now I click »cancel« and get a SIGSEV-signal, like every time.
> 
> Does anybody have a hint what I could do? Would be very good to use XML, 
> maybe there is a workaround.
> 
> Thanks, all best
> Jess

Hello Jess,

I’m on Mac OS 10.14.4 with LyX 2.3.2. I’m unable to export to DocBook too. But 
- at least with the Tutorial - I don’t get a crash on Cancel.

Can you send me the stack trace please and tell me if it happens with every LyX 
document or with some of your documents only?

Best regards,
Stephan

Re: BibLatex references with de, von etc

[Stephan Witt]

Am 07.03.2019 um 11:53 schrieb F M Salter :
> 
> I am using lyx 2.3.2 on debian stretch.
> 
> I am finding different outputs for two cases
> 
> author = ({de Boer), J)

Are you sure, the parentheses are as shown? I’d say the first closing one is 
wrong.

Regards,
Stephan

> 
> author = ({von Hayek}, Friedrich August )
> 
> The references are correct for both showinig the von and the de.  The 
> citations styles apparently  differ.  von Hayek is shown but the de is lost 
> leaving only Boer.
> 
> Does any one know how to resolve this issue.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Frank Salter
> 
> 

Re: jpg to eps within powerdot

[Stephan Witt]

Am 04.01.2019 um 18:51 schrieb Jacques Le Bourlot :
> 
> Dear Stephan,
> 
> Yes! It solved most of my issues. I did have to add converters for png and 
> gif files too (nothing automatic…), but the result is fine, and it works 
> without any further action required. And the final file is HUGELY smaller 
> which is great.
> 
> I still have some problems with inputting PDF files, but I will try to solve 
> it alone first before asking for help. It is probably something between 
> poppler and xpdf (to be checked).

You may consider using sips on Mac. It’s very useful for converting pdf files 
to raster images.

Stephan

> 
> Thanks a lot for the prompt — and to the point — answer.
> 
> Jacques

Re: jpg to eps within powerdot

[Stephan Witt]

Am 04.01.2019 um 17:20 schrieb Jacques Le Bourlot :
> 
> 
> 
>> Le 4 janv. 2019 à 16:08, Stephan Witt  a écrit :
>> 
>>> Am 03.01.2019 um 17:01 schrieb Jacques Le Bourlot 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Bonjour,
>>> 
>>> I’ve been using the powerdot class in LyX for years without a glitch, 
>>> including in my presentations pictures with a large diversity of format 
>>> (including jpg, png, pdf, …). Please note that powerdot can NOT be used 
>>> with pdflatex, and MUST go through ps2pdf (i.e., with a dvi step somewhere).
>>> 
>>> I’m running into difficulties after a recent update:
>>> 
>>> * Mac OSX 10.14.2 (Mojave)
>>> * LyX 2.3.2
>>> * TeXLive-2018
>>> * ImageMagick and many tools installed with MacPort.
>>> 
>>> I include some jpeg images into my presentation, and now get the message 
>>> (note: translated from French by myself): « no information to convert jpg 
>>> files to eps - define a converter in preferences » . After a second try, I 
>>> sometime do not get this message, but a LaTeX error: « LaTeX Error: Cannot 
>>> determine size of graphic in ... »
>>> 
>>> I did add a converter in preferences: « convert $$o $$i », without success. 
>>> 
>>> If I convert « by hand » in a shell (convert toto.jpg toto.eps), then use 
>>> the eps file in LyX everything is fine.
>>> 
>>> What am I missing? Thank you.
>>> 
>>> Jacques
>>> 
>> 
>> Bonjour Jaques,
>> 
>> there is a problem with converters (inkscape) on Mac OSX, ATM. To be sure 
>> you’re affected by the known problem it would be good to have an example 
>> document. See "How to create a minimal example" section in the following:
>> 
>>  https://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/MinimalExample
>> 
>> Stephan
> 
> 
> Dear Stephan,
> 
> Here is a (probably) minimal example.
> 
> * As is, I get an error about either conversion not found or size not found.
> * If I replace the « jpg » extension by « eps » (using the file created with 
> « convert »), then everything is fine.
> 
> Thank you for your help.
> 
> Jacques
> 
> PS: I selected the smallest file I could find, but most of the other eps 
> files are huge! Which is a reason why I do not want to do it « by hand », 
> …besides the inconvenience to lose a nicely working tool.
> 
> PPS: Sorry for the double post: I did not realise first that the mailing list 
> was not included.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

The good thing is - it works for me. I didn’t had to add the converter. The 
built-in converter script succeeds. Then I tried it with your converter 
definition and failed. Finally I noticed it would be good to call the convert 
utility with « convert $$i $$o » - i.e. in => out. Now I can preview it with 
ps2pdf and export a pdf of it.

Does this work for you?

Best regards,
Stephan

Re: jpg to eps within powerdot

[Stephan Witt]

> Am 03.01.2019 um 17:01 schrieb Jacques Le Bourlot 
> :
> 
> 
> Bonjour,
> 
> I’ve been using the powerdot class in LyX for years without a glitch, 
> including in my presentations pictures with a large diversity of format 
> (including jpg, png, pdf, …). Please note that powerdot can NOT be used with 
> pdflatex, and MUST go through ps2pdf (i.e., with a dvi step somewhere).
> 
> I’m running into difficulties after a recent update:
> 
> * Mac OSX 10.14.2 (Mojave)
> * LyX 2.3.2
> * TeXLive-2018
> * ImageMagick and many tools installed with MacPort.
> 
> I include some jpeg images into my presentation, and now get the message 
> (note: translated from French by myself): « no information to convert jpg 
> files to eps - define a converter in preferences » . After a second try, I 
> sometime do not get this message, but a LaTeX error: « LaTeX Error: Cannot 
> determine size of graphic in ... »
> 
> I did add a converter in preferences: « convert $$o $$i », without success. 
> 
> If I convert « by hand » in a shell (convert toto.jpg toto.eps), then use the 
> eps file in LyX everything is fine.
> 
> What am I missing? Thank you.
> 
> Jacques
> 

Bonjour Jaques,

there is a problem with converters (inkscape) on Mac OSX, ATM. To be sure 
you’re affected by the known problem it would be good to have an example 
document. See "How to create a minimal example" section in the following:

   https://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/MinimalExample

Stephan

Re: Lyx V2.3.2 - Issues with svgs snippets on Mac OS X

[Stephan Witt]

Am 22.12.2018 um 23:59 schrieb Robert Betz :
> 
> Daniel,
> 
> I have tired all sorts of things on Mac OS X Mojave but I cannot get either 
> SVG or SVGZ files to render in Lyx.  Just get error generating loadable 
> format.
> 
> I was wondering if any other users on Mac OS X Mojave are having problems 
> with rendering SVG and/or SVGZ?  An easy way to test this is to load up the 
> User Manual in Lyx and scroll down until you hit the small svgs snippets in 
> the text (used to store pictures of screen buttons in the file).

I’m sure it worked for me in the past. So I gave it a try on Mojave and it 
works.

Then I tried to break it and this is easy. My converter configuration does the 
SVG to PNG conversion with rsvg-convert because I’ve installed it from 
MacPorts. But the idea was to have a reasonable fallback for those not having 
it. It looks like not working anymore. I changed my system to make rsvg-convert 
unavailable and now I cannot display SVG anymore too.

I’ll investigate the issue and report back.

Stephan

@Daniel: Does it work on Windows without inkscape?

> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> PROFESSOR ROBERT BETZ
> School of Electrical Engineering and Computing
> Faculty of Engineering and Built Environment
> 
> T: +61 2 4921 6091
> M: +61 (0)419 249 948
> E: robert.b...@newcastle.edu.au
> 
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> University Drive
> Callaghan NSW 2308
> Australia
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 20 Dec 2018, at 2:20 pm, Daniel  wrote:
>> 
>> On 20/12/2018 12:00, Robert Betz wrote:
>>> I don’t know whether anyone else is having trouble with the snippets in the 
>>> Lyx User Guide, but on my Machine (Mac OS X V10.14.2 Mojave) the svgz 
>>> snippets all get errors as below
>>> I anyone else having this problem.  The Inkscape converter seems to be 
>>> having problems with these.  Works fine in Ubuntu.
>>> Regards,
>>> Bob
>> 
>> Works fine under Win10.
>> 
>> Daniel
>> 
>> 
> 

Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 2.2.3 Released.

[Stephan Witt]

Hi Bob,

is it a problem with LyX 2.3.2 and with 2.3.1 forward search is fast?

My guess was: it’s a problem new with Mojave…

Regards,
Stephan

> Am 16.12.2018 um 15:34 schrieb Robert Betz :
> 
> I have noticed that Lyx V2.3.2 under Mac OSX 10.14.1 (Mojave) has a very slow 
> forward search.  Seems to take a couple of seconds.
> 
> This was reported by another user as well.  In addition he was having 
> problems with the reverse search working. Reverse search on my system is 
> working well, and does not suffer the delays of the forward search.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> PROFESSOR ROBERT BETZ
> School of Electrical Engineering and Computing
> Faculty of Engineering and Built Environment
> 
> T: +61 2 4921 6091
> M: +61 (0)419 249 948
> E: robert.b...@newcastle.edu.au
> 
> The University of Newcastle (UoN)
> University Drive
> Callaghan NSW 2308
> Australia
> 
> CRICOS Provider 00109J
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 14 Dec 2018, at 5:09 pm, Chris Menzel  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm always hesitant to complain about this brilliant piece of software but, 
>> for me (Mojave 10.14.2 Beta) with this version, forward search (LyX ⟶ Skim) 
>> is still very slow and reverse search (Skim ⟶ LyX) appears to be 
>> nonfunctional. I've of course checked all the usual settings.
>> 
>> -chris
>> 
>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 9:32 AM Richard Kimberly Heck  
>> wrote:
>> ...
>> 
>> Public release of LyX version 2.3.2
>> ===
>> 
>> We are proud to announce the release of LyX 2.3.2. This is the second
>> maintenance release in the 2.3.x series.
>> 
>> You can download LyX 2.3.2 from http://www.lyx.org/Download/.
> 

Re: PDF graphics is blurred in LyX when scaled

[Stephan Witt]

Am 12.11.2018 um 18:53 schrieb Baris Erkus :
> 
> On 11/12/2018 4:36 PM, Stephan Witt wrote:
>> Am 12.11.2018 um 14:03 schrieb Stephen Buonopane :
>>>> On Nov 12, 2018, at 7:52 AM, Baris Erkus  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On 12-Nov-18 3:38 PM, Kornel Benko wrote:
>>>>> Am Montag, 12. November 2018 13:21:58 CET schrieb Daniel 
>>>>> :
>>>>>> On 11/11/2018 19:14, Paul A. Rubin wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/10/18 9:45 PM, Baris Erkus wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> PDF graphics appears to be blurred in LyX when scaled from Graphics
>>>>>>>> Options --> LaTeX and LyX options --> Show in LyX --> Scale on Screen.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I am not sure if this is a feature to reduce CPU rendering workload or
>>>>>>>> smtg, but it would be really nice to have a clear view of the PDF
>>>>>>>> while working on the document rather than looking at it using a PDF
>>>>>>>> viewer.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> See MWE and the view from LyX below.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Baris
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The image in your PDF file is a bitmap (PNG), so I don't hold out much
>>>>>>> hope for being able to zoom it without loss of fidelity.
>>>>>> Why do you think the graphic in the PDF is a bitmap? I have zoomed in on
>>>>>> it and never got any pixels to see. At least it must be an extremely
>>>>>> high resolution bitmap then.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Because PNG format is bitmap?
>>>>>   PNG image data, 652 x 668, 8-bit/color RGB, non-interlaced
>>>>> 
>>>>>   Kornel
>>>>> 
>>>> The external graphics is in PDF, which is attached to the original
>>>> e-mail; it was generated in Tikz, so it is a vector graphics. No
>>>> question about it.  When inserted into LyX, maybe LyX creates a
>>>> temporary bitmap or PNG file to show to the user, I am not sure.
>>>> 
>>>> It should not be a big thing to show a higher resolution graphics or to
>>>> let the user decide for possible performance issues. One day I will be
>>>> doing all these small modification by myself, but when that I do not
>>>> know... :-)
>>>> 
>>>> Baris
>>> 
>>> Yes LyX creates a PNG file for the on-screen preview within LyX (It also 
>>> does this for the math preview)
>>> If you dig into the LyX temp directory you will find all of the PNG files.
>>> 
>>> I recall that an older version of LyX (on Mac) did not use PNG for 
>>> on-screen previews, in which case it may be possible to revert to the older 
>>> behavior even in 2.3.X?
>> There are fundamental differences between the handling of SVG and PDF files 
>> in LyX.
>> 
>> LyX is using Qt plugins to render the images on screen.
>> 
>> For PDF files one has to convert them to temporary bitmap files because 
>> there is no plugin to render them directly. (Perhaps this is not true 
>> anymore.) For SVG files there is a plugin. But this one is limited in 
>> functionality. There was a decision to not use it for on-screen display 
>> because of the complaints regarding missing details.
>> 
>> The problem with the temporary images is the fixed resolution of the 
>> generated images. The used cache is not invalidated in case of higher 
>> preview zoom levels. Furthermore you can have different resolutions at 
>> runtime too. In case of a machine with multiple monitors with different 
>> physical resolutions you get different values for moving the LyX window 
>> around.
>> 
>> Stephan
> 
> This makes sense. Do you think it is reasonable that I put this as a 
> wish to the tracker?

I think it’s already there… but couldn’t find it ATM.

Stephan

Re: PDF graphics is blurred in LyX when scaled

[Stephan Witt]

Am 12.11.2018 um 14:03 schrieb Stephen Buonopane :
> 
>> On Nov 12, 2018, at 7:52 AM, Baris Erkus  wrote:
>> 
>> On 12-Nov-18 3:38 PM, Kornel Benko wrote:
>>> Am Montag, 12. November 2018 13:21:58 CET schrieb Daniel :
 On 11/11/2018 19:14, Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> On 11/10/18 9:45 PM, Baris Erkus wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> PDF graphics appears to be blurred in LyX when scaled from Graphics
>> Options --> LaTeX and LyX options --> Show in LyX --> Scale on Screen.
>> 
>> I am not sure if this is a feature to reduce CPU rendering workload or
>> smtg, but it would be really nice to have a clear view of the PDF
>> while working on the document rather than looking at it using a PDF
>> viewer.
>> 
>> See MWE and the view from LyX below.
>> 
>> Baris
>> 
>> 
> The image in your PDF file is a bitmap (PNG), so I don't hold out much
> hope for being able to zoom it without loss of fidelity.
 Why do you think the graphic in the PDF is a bitmap? I have zoomed in on
 it and never got any pixels to see. At least it must be an extremely
 high resolution bitmap then.
 
 Daniel
 
>>> Because PNG format is bitmap?
>>> PNG image data, 652 x 668, 8-bit/color RGB, non-interlaced
>>> 
>>> Kornel
>>> 
>> The external graphics is in PDF, which is attached to the original 
>> e-mail; it was generated in Tikz, so it is a vector graphics. No 
>> question about it.  When inserted into LyX, maybe LyX creates a 
>> temporary bitmap or PNG file to show to the user, I am not sure.
>> 
>> It should not be a big thing to show a higher resolution graphics or to 
>> let the user decide for possible performance issues. One day I will be 
>> doing all these small modification by myself, but when that I do not 
>> know... :-)
>> 
>> Baris
> 
> 
> Yes LyX creates a PNG file for the on-screen preview within LyX (It also does 
> this for the math preview)
> If you dig into the LyX temp directory you will find all of the PNG files.
> 
> I recall that an older version of LyX (on Mac) did not use PNG for on-screen 
> previews, in which case it may be possible to revert to the older behavior 
> even in 2.3.X?

There are fundamental differences between the handling of SVG and PDF files in 
LyX.

LyX is using Qt plugins to render the images on screen.

For PDF files one has to convert them to temporary bitmap files because there 
is no plugin to render them directly. (Perhaps this is not true anymore.) For 
SVG files there is a plugin. But this one is limited in functionality. There 
was a decision to not use it for on-screen display because of the complaints 
regarding missing details.

The problem with the temporary images is the fixed resolution of the generated 
images. The used cache is not invalidated in case of higher preview zoom 
levels. Furthermore you can have different resolutions at runtime too. In case 
of a machine with multiple monitors with different physical resolutions you get 
different values for moving the LyX window around.

Stephan

Re: Adding local templates directory to dialog

[Stephan Witt]

Am 23.06.2018 um 20:44 schrieb Paul A. Rubin :
> 
> I should know the answer to this but apparently have forgotten. Is there any 
> way to modify the "New from Template" dialog so that local templates (in 
> ~/.lyx/templates on Linux) are one click away? Alternatively, is there a way 
> to add to the list of directory shortcuts on the left side of the dialog 
> (currently "Computer" and my home directory)?

My alternate solution is to change the template directory to the local 
templates in your home directory and place a symbolic link to the system 
template dir inside it. That way you can reach both places quickly. On a Mac 
this is done automatically on first configuration. Unfortunately there is no 
(known) API to modify the list of directory shortcuts on the left side of the 
dialog automatically.

Stephan

Re: Cannot get spell check to work on LyX 2.3.0 and Mac OS 10.13.4 (High Sierra)

[Stephan Witt]

Am 23.04.2018 um 18:47 schrieb Marshall Feldman :
> 
> I'm having a devil of a time trying to get spell check working with LyX 2.3.0 
> and Mac OS 10.13.4. I have similar configurations on two other computers, and 
> the spell check does seem to work there. But on this one, whenever I issue 
> Tools > Spellchecker..., LyX throws the error message, "Spell checker has no 
> dictionaries." This happens with all 3 available Spellchecker engines:  
> Native, Aspell, and Hunspell.
> 
> Here are some things I've tried:
> 
>   • Install the latest version of LibreOffice, which relies on Hunspell. 
> I thought reinstalling LO might fix issues with Hunspell, at least.
>   • Reinstall Hunspell. Hunspell is supposedly included with recent 
> versions of Mac OS, but I followed the OSX and macOS instructions on the 
> Hunspell GitHub page to (re)install Hunspell.
>   • Downloaded and reinstalled the en_US.aff/dic files as recommended 
> here. The original post is several years old, and one hopes any corruption in 
> the dictionary file would have been corrected by now, but one never knows.
>   • Test with each of the 3 spell checkers.
> FWIW, this testing was done with:
> 
>   • LyX > Preferences > Language Settings > Spellchecker always set to 
> activate "Spellcheck continuously" and "Spellcheck notes and comments."
>   • LyX > Preferences > Language Settings > Spellchecker does not allow 
> activation of "Accept compound words," as this option is grayed out.
>   • LyX > Preferences > Paths > Hunspell dictionaries set to 
> "~/Library/Spelling"
> A MWE is attached.
> 
> Please help me before I spell again!!!
> 
> Thanks.
> 

The spell checker function isn’t document specific, IMHO.

Hunspell dictionaries are bundled with LyX 2.3.0, you shouldn’t have to change 
anything to use it. Native spell checker (the default) is using the OS spell 
checker service. For Aspell you need the dictionaries that come with macports 
aspell.

Probably the best you can do is to enable file related debug messages to check 
hunspell file lookup and GUI debug messages for native spell checker operation.
Verify the messages and post them here for reference. You can enable messages 
at runtime from the View > Messages dialog.

Best regards,
Stephan

Re: LyX 2.3.0 and tables with footnotes

[Stephan Witt]

Am 04.04.2018 um 10:36 schrieb Andrew Parsloe :
> 
> On 4/04/2018 6:15 p.m., Niklas Huldén wrote:
>> On 03.04.2018 20:58, Paul A. Rubin wrote:
>>> On 04/03/2018 12:38 PM, Niklas Huldén wrote:
 Den 03-04-2018 kl. 18:51, skrev Paul A. Rubin:
> On 04/03/2018 10:55 AM, Niklas Huldén wrote:
>> Hello all!
>> 
>> I am testing LyX 2.3.0 on windows 10 with MikTex 2.9. I have some old 
>> tables with footnotes inside them which used to line up fine with the 
>> table using the "minipage trick" putting the table in a minipage 
>> (whitout the caption).
>> In LyX 2.3.0 this results in the footnote becoming an ordinary footnote, 
>> which makes it hard to keep tables and footnotes on the same page. But I 
>> understand this is a feature now. Is there any way to "emulate" the old 
>> behavior? I include a MWF and two screenshots.
>> 
>> Thanks and all the best!
>> Niklas
> You could add \renewcommand{\tablefootnote}{\footnote} to the document 
> preamble. (If you do this a lot, you might want to cobble together a 
> module for it.)
> 
> Paul
> 
 Thank you Paul! This works fine and takes me out of immediate danger zone. 
 I guess a module would be a good idea in the long run.
 
 A somewhat linked issue is that I get an error message if I use the rotate 
 package in a LyX file that uses tablefootnotes: "Package tablefootnote 
 Error: Package rotating loaded after tablefootnote."
 
 Hard to find a place to load rotate before the tablefootnote though.
 
 Many thanks again!
 
 Niklas
 
>>> Niklas,
>>> 
>>> I've attached a module. Try putting it in your local layouts folder 
>>> (~/.lyx/layouts on most Linux systems), then reconfigure LyX, add it to 
>>> your document (and do /not/ add the \renewcommand line in the preamble), 
>>> then see if you get the desired results (including using the rotate 
>>> package).
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Paul
>>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Thank you Paul! I placed the module in (windows 10) 
>> "c:\Users\myselfwhatever\AppData\Local\LyX 2.3\Resources\layouts\ and 
>> reconfigured but could not find any module in restarted LyX. This might have 
>> something to do with my Windows configuration.
>> 
>> I then placed it in "c:\Program Files (x86)\LyX 2.3\Resources\layouts\" as 
>> administrator, reconfigured and now it is available in document 
>> settings/modules. Everything works including getting rid of the rotating 
>> error message :)
>> 
>> I will try it in my Mac tonight.
>> 
>> All the best!
>> Niklas
>> 
> On Windows 7 the module should go to "C:\Users\ name>\AppData\Roaming\LyX2.3\layouts\".  I would expect this to be the same 
> on Windows 10. The "c:\Program Files (x86)\LyX 2.3\Resources\layouts\" 
> location should be left for layouts and modules of the official LyX 
> distribution. When LyX 2.3.1 comes out and you upgrade, this folder will be 
> overwritten and Paul's module will be lost (unless it gets incorporated into 
> the official LyX distro.).
> 
> Andrew

The correct path name for the user configuration directory is
shown in the About LyX dialog. Probably there is a missing or
an additional space in path name here.

On Mac the directory path name should contain LyX-2.3, BTW.

Stephan

Re: Lyx Preferences on the Mac

[Stephan Witt]

Am 14.03.2018 um 16:25 schrieb Dr Eberhard Lisse :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have started to use v 2.3.0 and am running into small issues with
> window sizes, background color and such.
> 
> I have added my email into the identity field and grep'ed for files
> cotaining the string and can't find it.
> 
> Where does LyX store its preference file, or rather the one where the
> changes remain persistent, so I can modify settings there?

"$HOME/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.3/preferences"

resp. LyX 2.2.x preferences are here:

"$HOME/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.2/preferences“

Regards,
Stephan

Re: Small poll - download speed of LyX installers

[Stephan Witt]

Am 16.02.2018 um 17:20 schrieb Pavel Sanda :
> 
> Hello lyx users,
> 
> it has been brought to our(=developers) attention that downloading speed of 
> lyx
> installers might become too slow on various places over the globe. The size of
> installers was steadily growing past years and 220 MB might indeed pose 
> problem
> in case users end up with connections speeds about ~10kbs...
> 
> That's why this small poll - we would be intersted to know how bad the 
> situation
> generally is -- especially outside of Europe.
> 
> If you have one minute of spare time could you download this file
> ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg
> and report:
> 
> 1. time to download (/ download speed)
> 2. country (and/or domain) where you download from
> 3. whether you download from home/academic network/large company...
> (you don't have to report more details than it feels comfortable...)
> 
> Both good and bad answers matter, we want to know whether this is sporadic
> or widespread problem.
> 
> In case your download of the link above is more than couple seconds, it would
> be useful if you also reported whether some of the mirror servers listed at
> http://www.lyx.org/Download#toc11 which are closer to your geographical
> location perform better.
> 
> Thanks for your time,
> Pavel

Hi Pavel,

this is the speed via Home-WLAN (ISP Vodafone-Berlin):

$ wget 
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg
Länge: 135668328 (129M) (unmaßgeblich)
LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg 129,38M   495KB/sin 3m 47s
2018-02-17 22:27:15 (584 KB/s) - »LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg« 
gespeichert [135668328]

$ wget 
ftp://ftp.ucsd.edu/LyX/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg
Länge: 135668328 (129M) (unmaßgeblich)
LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg 129,38M  3,01MB/sin 45s 
2018-02-17 22:28:45 (2,86 MB/s) - »LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg« 
gespeichert [135668328]

this is the speed at office (LAN) (ISP Vodafone-Berlin):

$ wget 
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg
Länge: 135668328 (129M) (unmaßgeblich)
135.668.328  776K/s   in 2m 23s  
2018-02-17 22:30:35 (929 KB/s) - »»LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg«« 
gespeichert [135668328]

$ wget 
ftp://ftp.ucsd.edu/LyX/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg
Länge: 135668328 (129M) (unmaßgeblich)
135.668.328 11,2M/s   in 20s 
2018-02-17 22:27:42 (6,40 MB/s) - »»LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg«« 
gespeichert [135668328]

Stephan

Re: lyx to lyx on the Mac command line

[Stephan Witt]

Am 08.08.2017 um 17:07 schrieb José Abílio Matos :
> 
> On Tuesday, 8 August 2017 15.50.28 WEST Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> is there a way of changing a lyx file from an older version to the
>> current one on the command line, like opening the file, making a
>> modification to trigger the saving allowed and saving it under the old
>> filename?
>> 
>>  find . -name '*lyx' -exec whatever {} \;
>> 
>> 
>> I wouldn't mind even a Apple Script :-)-O
>> 
>> greetings, el
> 
> I do not use macs, last time I did it was running linux as opposed to macos 
> 9. :-)
> 
> In any case the script responsible for converting the lyx files to a newer 
> format is called lyx2lyx.
> 
> If you get its path (e.g. here on linux it is /usr/share/lyx/lyx2lyx/lyx2lyx) 
> then you can call it directly. It has several options for command line call 
> and it even supports compressed lyx files directly.

On Mac you may have multiple LyX applications on your system.
The standard location is the folder /Applications and the name
is LyX.app. There it is located in Contents/Resources/lyx2lyx/.

So, the standard is 
/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/lyx2lyx/lyx2lyx

But the application bundle is completely relocatable. It is up
to the owner of the Mac to know where the „current“ LyX.app is
located.

Stephan

> 
> I can help further if you need.
> 
> Regards,
> -- 
> José Abílio

Re: Help improve LyX's defaults by sharing your preferences

[Stephan Witt]

Am 30.07.2017 um 19:45 schrieb Uwe Stöhr :
> 
> El 29.07.2017 a las 23:47, Scott Kostyshak escribió:
> 
>> Agreed. Hopefully we can get more in the future.
> 
> As on no OS people are using 100% and as 120% was the reported the minimal 
> used zoom level, I again vote to make the new 100% the current 120%.

How do you want to achieve this? I’m not so confident it’s good to change the 
current computation of screen zoom. Every preference saved to disk would be 
„invalid“ after a change.

I’m not against a decision what the best default zoom level is.

Stephan

> 
> I opened an enhancement accordingly:
> http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/10737
> 
> (For the records: on Manjaro Linux KDE I have set 150% zoom.)
> 
> regards Uwe

Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 2.2.3 Released

[Stephan Witt]

Am 16.05.2017 um 05:31 schrieb Edwin Burmeister :

Hi Edwin,

> 
> (1) The links below for “lists.lyx.org” do not work.

Which link exactly? lists.lyx.org itself isn’t a link.
The other links below work for me.

> (2) The introductory file “splash.lyz” cannot be viewed as a PDF without 
> error. This was also true in 2.2.2, but it works fine in 2.1.5. Some error 
> message about a convertor needing to be defined in Preferences, but I cannot 
> figure out  the solution. Need help here.

Anyone who wants to help you needs more information. The platform you’re 
working on
and the error message is missing.

Stephan

> 
> Thanks.
> 
> ***
> Edwin Burmeister
> Research Professor of Economics
> Duke University
> e...@econ.duke.edu
> 
>> On May 15, 2017, at 9:56 PM, Richard Heck  wrote:
>> 
>> Public release of LyX version 2.2.3
>> ===
>> 
>> We are proud to announce the release of LyX 2.2.3. This is the third
>> maintenance release in the 2.2.x series. 
>> 
>> You can download LyX 2.2.3 from http://www.lyx.org/Download/.
>> 
>> LyX is a document processor that encourages an approach to writing based 
>> on the structure of your documents and not simply their appearance. It is
>> released under a Free and Open Source Software license.
>> 
>> LyX 2.2.3 is the result of on-going efforts to make our stable version more 
>> reliable and more stable. We have fixed a number of bugs and made a number 
>> of improvements. Most of these are relatively minor in themselves, but the 
>> combined result of fixing them all has led to significant improvements. We 
>> encourage all users of 2.2.2 to upgrade to this version.
>> 
>> If you think you have found a bug in LyX 2.2.3, please open a bug report at
>> http://www.lyx.org/trac/wiki/BugTrackerHome. If you're not sure whether it
>> really is a bug, you can e-mail the LyX developers' mailing list (lyx-devel 
>>  lists.lyx.org) and ask. 
>> 
>> If you have trouble using LyX or have a question, consult the
>> documentation that comes with LyX and the LyX wiki, which lives at
>> http://wiki.lyx.org/. If you can't find the answer there, e-mail the LyX 
>> users' list (lyx-users  lists.lyx.org).
>> 
>> We hope you enjoy using LyX 2.2.3.
>> 
>> The LyX team.
>> http://www.lyx.org
>> 
>> 
>> What's new
>> ==
>> 
>> ** Updates:
>> ***
>> 
>> * DOCUMENT INPUT/OUTPUT
>> 
>> - Allow use of verbatim and quotation environments with IOP articles
>>   (bug 10505).
>> 
>> - Search for input files relative to local layout files, when those 
>>   are provided and relative paths are used.
>> 
>> 
>> * USER INTERFACE
>> 
>> - The title bar is now set according to platform UI. Read-only and
>>   version control are shown by indicators in the status bar.
>> 
>> - The toolbar context menu and the View>Toobars menus are now
>>   identical. Both allow to change icon size and to enable individual
>>   toolbars.
>> 
>> - The citation dialog has been redesigned, following user suggestions.
>> 
>> - Remember citation style settings both within and between sessions
>>   (bug 10256).
>> 
>> - Improve cross-references dialog design.
>> 
>> - Implement wrap-around in change tracking's next-change function (bug 
>> 10388).
>> 
>> - The Math Delimiters dialog now has a "Swap & Reverse" button (bug 10457).
>> 
>> - Document Settings > "Output" has been renamed to "Formats" now that it
>>   also contains the option "Save transient properties".
>> 
>> - The title of the source pane now reflects the format being previewed,
>>   e.g. "LaTeX (pdflatex) Preview".
>> 
>> - Improve information preview of bibliographic references (e.g. in the
>>   Citation dialog), particularly for bibtex databases that use biblatex
>>   features.
>> 
>> - When using Return in an empty paragraph and the depth is reduced,
>>   the layout of the paragraph is now changed accordingly.
>> 
>> - Issue an error message if incompatible languages (in terms of language
>>   package requirements) are used (bug 10456).
>> 
>> - Improve display speed, especially when compiled against Qt 4.x.
>> 
>> - Polish the BibTeX add dialog (bug 9795).
>> 
>> - Fix regression that was not allowing inserting more than three consecutive
>>   dashes without jumping through hoops.
>> 
>> 
>> * DOCUMENTATION AND LOCALIZATION
>> 
>> - New Arabic translation of the Intro and Tutorial manuals and the Shortcuts
>>   documentation file
>> 
>> - Updated translation of the French EmbeddedObjects and UserGuide manuals
>> 
>> - Updated Arabic, Brazilian, Chinese, German, Italian, Slovakian, Swedish,
>>   Ukrainian and French user interface localization.
>> 
>> 
>> * BUILD/INSTALLATION
>> 
>> - Correctly determine whether the X11 backend is used by Qt 5.8.
>> 
>> 
>> ** Bug fixes:
>> *
>> 
>> * DOCUMENT INPUT/OUTPUT
>> 
>> - Fix nested language handling with polyglossia (bug 9633).
>> 
>> - Fix usage of multiple varieties of the same polyglossia language.
>> 
>> 

Re: Lyx 2.2 errors w/ miktex 2.9.6 (on win10)

[Stephan Witt]

Am 13.04.2017 um 15:44 schrieb Mitch Gusat :
> 
> Seen the same issues on Mac and Linux, but it's particularly vexing on 
> Windows since the recent (April'17) Miktex 2.9 release: Lyx 2.0/1/2 used to 
> work flawlessly for years before the new miktex release.

Hi Mitch,

I’d like to get more detailed infos regarding the problems you’ve mentioned for 
LyX on Mac.

Thank you
Stephan