Re: Footnotes, Authors and Symbols.

[Guillaume Munch]

Le 16/03/2016 09:24, Pedro Ramos a écrit :

Hello. I've been writing an article-class document using Lyx 2.1.4 and
I've had trouble with the symbols which precede  the footnotes I've used
for displaying each author's e-mail. Before generating the .pdf
document, Lyx does display all the different symbols I'd like (asterisk,
dagger, ddagger,,,), but once the pdf is generated, they all turn into
asterisks (one, two or more, depending on the order).

How colud I fix it?


Hi

This is a feature of the spanish babel package you are using. If babel 
does this then I assume that daggers are not in use in spanish 
typography, so I would leave it that way. Or you could copy the original 
definition of @fnsymbol (see e.g. 
https://tex.stackexchange.com/a/78223/87201) into your preamble (maybe 
inside an \AtBeginDocument command).

Re: Footnotes, Authors and Symbols.

[Pedro Ramos]

Hello. I've been writing an article-class document using Lyx 2.1.4 and I've
had trouble with the symbols which precede  the footnotes I've used for
displaying each author's e-mail. Before generating the .pdf document, Lyx
does display all the different symbols I'd like (asterisk, dagger,
ddagger,,,), but once the pdf is generated, they all turn into asterisks
(one, two or more, depending on the order).

How colud I fix it?

2016-03-15 22:36 GMT+01:00 Scott Kostyshak :

> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 12:46:27PM +0100, Pedro Ramos wrote:
> > Hello. I've been writing an article-class document using Lyx 2.1.4 and
> I've
> > had trouble with the symbols which precede  the footnotes I've used for
> > displaying each author's e-mail. Before generating de .pdf document, Lyx
> > does display all the different symbols I'd like (asterisk, dagger,
> > ddagger,,,), but once the pdf is generated, they all turn into asterisks
> > (one, two or more, depending on the order).
> >
> > How colud I fix it?
>
> Hi Pedro,
>
> Can you please send a minimal example
> (https://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/MinimalExample)
> to the list (and not to me personally) so that we can take a look and
> see if we can reproduce the issue?
>
> Best,
>
> Scott
>


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Re: Footnotes, Authors and Symbols.

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 12:46:27PM +0100, Pedro Ramos wrote:
> Hello. I've been writing an article-class document using Lyx 2.1.4 and I've
> had trouble with the symbols which precede  the footnotes I've used for
> displaying each author's e-mail. Before generating de .pdf document, Lyx
> does display all the different symbols I'd like (asterisk, dagger,
> ddagger,,,), but once the pdf is generated, they all turn into asterisks
> (one, two or more, depending on the order).
> 
> How colud I fix it?

Hi Pedro,

Can you please send a minimal example
(https://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/MinimalExample)
to the list (and not to me personally) so that we can take a look and
see if we can reproduce the issue?

Best,

Scott


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Re: footnotes in glosses

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2015-05-19 6:19 GMT+02:00 Michael Berger id...@online.de:

  Is there a way to use footnotes in glosses?


\footnote itself does not seem to work, but you can put \footnotemark in
the glosse, and then, below the glosse \footnotetext{Actual footnote text}.

Jürgen



 Michael Berger

Re: footnotes in glosses

[Michael Berger]

On 05/19/2015 09:27 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
2015-05-19 6:19 GMT+02:00 Michael Berger id...@online.de 
mailto:id...@online.de:


Is there a way to use footnotes in glosses?


\footnote itself does not seem to work, but you can put \footnotemark 
in the glosse, and then, below the glosse \footnotetext{Actual 
footnote text}.


Jürgen


Michael Berger


Great Jürgen, it works. I found that same method in another forum before 
but the explanation was just too impractical to be followed.

Yet another (last?) question: How to write the hash # in a gloss? :-D

Thanks and regards,
Michael

Jürgen,
very sorry for my stupid question re the hash - I just found it out: \#

Michael

Re: footnotes in glosses

[Michael Berger]

On 05/19/2015 09:27 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
2015-05-19 6:19 GMT+02:00 Michael Berger id...@online.de 
mailto:id...@online.de:


Is there a way to use footnotes in glosses?


\footnote itself does not seem to work, but you can put \footnotemark 
in the glosse, and then, below the glosse \footnotetext{Actual 
footnote text}.


Jürgen


Michael Berger


Great Jürgen, it works. I found that same method in another forum before 
but the explanation was just too impractical to be followed.

Yet another (last?) question: How to write the hash # in a gloss? :-D

Thanks and regards,
Michael

Re: footnotes in glosses

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2015-05-19 6:19 GMT+02:00 Michael Berger id...@online.de:

  Is there a way to use footnotes in glosses?


\footnote itself does not seem to work, but you can put \footnotemark in
the glosse, and then, below the glosse \footnotetext{Actual footnote text}.

Jürgen



 Michael Berger

Re: footnotes in glosses

[Michael Berger]

On 05/19/2015 09:27 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
2015-05-19 6:19 GMT+02:00 Michael Berger id...@online.de 
mailto:id...@online.de:


Is there a way to use footnotes in glosses?


\footnote itself does not seem to work, but you can put \footnotemark 
in the glosse, and then, below the glosse \footnotetext{Actual 
footnote text}.


Jürgen


Michael Berger


Great Jürgen, it works. I found that same method in another forum before 
but the explanation was just too impractical to be followed.

Yet another (last?) question: How to write the hash # in a gloss? :-D

Thanks and regards,
Michael

Re: footnotes in glosses

[Michael Berger]

On 05/19/2015 09:27 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
2015-05-19 6:19 GMT+02:00 Michael Berger id...@online.de 
mailto:id...@online.de:


Is there a way to use footnotes in glosses?


\footnote itself does not seem to work, but you can put \footnotemark 
in the glosse, and then, below the glosse \footnotetext{Actual 
footnote text}.


Jürgen


Michael Berger


Great Jürgen, it works. I found that same method in another forum before 
but the explanation was just too impractical to be followed.

Yet another (last?) question: How to write the hash # in a gloss? :-D

Thanks and regards,
Michael

Jürgen,
very sorry for my stupid question re the hash - I just found it out: \#

Michael

Re: footnotes in glosses

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2015-05-19 6:19 GMT+02:00 Michael Berger :

>  Is there a way to use footnotes in glosses?
>

\footnote itself does not seem to work, but you can put \footnotemark in
the glosse, and then, below the glosse \footnotetext{Actual footnote text}.

Jürgen


>
> Michael Berger
>
>

Re: footnotes in glosses

[Michael Berger]

On 05/19/2015 09:27 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
2015-05-19 6:19 GMT+02:00 Michael Berger >:


Is there a way to use footnotes in glosses?


\footnote itself does not seem to work, but you can put \footnotemark 
in the glosse, and then, below the glosse \footnotetext{Actual 
footnote text}.


Jürgen


Michael Berger


Great Jürgen, it works. I found that same method in another forum before 
but the explanation was just too impractical to be followed.

Yet another (last?) question: How to write the hash # in a gloss? :-D

Thanks and regards,
Michael

Re: footnotes in glosses

[Michael Berger]

On 05/19/2015 09:27 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
2015-05-19 6:19 GMT+02:00 Michael Berger >:


Is there a way to use footnotes in glosses?


\footnote itself does not seem to work, but you can put \footnotemark 
in the glosse, and then, below the glosse \footnotetext{Actual 
footnote text}.


Jürgen


Michael Berger


Great Jürgen, it works. I found that same method in another forum before 
but the explanation was just too impractical to be followed.

Yet another (last?) question: How to write the hash # in a gloss? :-D

Thanks and regards,
Michael

Jürgen,
very sorry for my stupid question re the hash - I just found it out: \#

Michael

Re: Footnotes in titles

[Sebastien]

Enrico Forestieri forenr at lyx.org writes:

 
 Try the following line in the preamble:
 
 \def\ at makefnmark{\hbox{\ at textsuperscript{\small\ at thefnmark}}}
 

Thanks for the suggestion, but when I put that command in the
preamble all of the footnote marks become much bigger
than they should be.
Sebastien.

Re: Footnotes in titles

[Sebastien]

Enrico Forestieri forenr at lyx.org writes:

 
 Try the following line in the preamble:
 
 \def\ at makefnmark{\hbox{\ at textsuperscript{\small\ at thefnmark}}}
 

Thanks for the suggestion, but when I put that command in the
preamble all of the footnote marks become much bigger
than they should be.
Sebastien.

Re: Footnotes in titles

[Sebastien]

Enrico Forestieri  lyx.org> writes:

> 
> Try the following line in the preamble:
> 
> \def\  makefnmark{\hbox{\  textsuperscript{\small\  thefnmark}}}
> 

Thanks for the suggestion, but when I put that command in the
preamble all of the footnote marks become much bigger
than they should be.
Sebastien.

Re: Footnotes in titles

[Enrico Forestieri]

Sebastien writes:

 Thanks for your remarks. I'll look into the latex commands to tweak
 this and see if there is anything possible. The solution
 suggested by Stefano provides a good starting point. The documentation
 on this seems slim, though, despite it being what would appear
 to be a fairly common occurrence (footnotes in titles).

Try the following line in the preamble:

\def\@makefnmark{\hbox{\@textsuperscript{\small\@thefnmark}}}

-- 
Enrico

Re: Footnotes in titles

[Enrico Forestieri]

Sebastien writes:

 Thanks for your remarks. I'll look into the latex commands to tweak
 this and see if there is anything possible. The solution
 suggested by Stefano provides a good starting point. The documentation
 on this seems slim, though, despite it being what would appear
 to be a fairly common occurrence (footnotes in titles).

Try the following line in the preamble:

\def\@makefnmark{\hbox{\@textsuperscript{\small\@thefnmark}}}

-- 
Enrico

Re: Footnotes in titles

[Enrico Forestieri]

Sebastien writes:

> Thanks for your remarks. I'll look into the latex commands to tweak
> this and see if there is anything possible. The solution
> suggested by Stefano provides a good starting point. The documentation
> on this seems slim, though, despite it being what would appear
> to be a fairly common occurrence (footnotes in titles).

Try the following line in the preamble:

\def\@makefnmark{\hbox{\@textsuperscript{\small\@thefnmark}}}

-- 
Enrico

Re: Footnotes in titles

[Guenter Milde]

On 2013-10-29, Sebastien wrote:
 This is a rather uncommon (but not unreasonable) request. I am quite sure
 there is a way, at least with ERT.

 If I were you, I would try to get this working in LaTeX first, asking at the
 comp.text.tex usenet list. Then I would try to get LyX to generate the
 required LaTeX code.

 Thanks for that. I did try fiddling with commands in ERT, but none
 of them worked. I'll try at the site you mention.

 Also, it might be interesting to note that, in his 'footmisc' package
 documentation, Robin Fairbanks repeats that it's best to avoid
 footnotes in titles — but in the very same document he has
 not one, but *two* footnotes before he even gets to the first
 paragraph!

Of course, the documentation is there to show what is possible with
footmisc, even if it is not recommended. There are other footnote
packages on CTAN, you could try whether any of them supports the style
you want to achieve. With a *minimal* LaTeX example that gives the
desired output, the LyX gurus on this list will certainly help you
implementing this in LyX.

Günter

Re: Footnotes in titles

[Sebastien]

Stefano,
Thanks a lot for your help. That's great. It's not perfect, but it does work,
and is good enough to get by for the moment.
Sebastien

Re: Footnotes in titles

[Sebastien]

 Of course, the documentation is there to show what is possible with
 footmisc, even if it is not recommended. There are other footnote
 packages on CTAN, you could try whether any of them supports the style
 you want to achieve. With a *minimal* LaTeX example that gives the
 desired output, the LyX gurus on this list will certainly help you
 implementing this in LyX.
 
 Günter
 

Thanks for your remarks. I'll look into the latex commands to tweak
this and see if there is anything possible. The solution
suggested by Stefano provides a good starting point. The documentation
on this seems slim, though, despite it being what would appear
to be a fairly common occurrence (footnotes in titles).
Sebastien

Re: Footnotes in titles

[Guenter Milde]

On 2013-10-29, Sebastien wrote:
 This is a rather uncommon (but not unreasonable) request. I am quite sure
 there is a way, at least with ERT.

 If I were you, I would try to get this working in LaTeX first, asking at the
 comp.text.tex usenet list. Then I would try to get LyX to generate the
 required LaTeX code.

 Thanks for that. I did try fiddling with commands in ERT, but none
 of them worked. I'll try at the site you mention.

 Also, it might be interesting to note that, in his 'footmisc' package
 documentation, Robin Fairbanks repeats that it's best to avoid
 footnotes in titles — but in the very same document he has
 not one, but *two* footnotes before he even gets to the first
 paragraph!

Of course, the documentation is there to show what is possible with
footmisc, even if it is not recommended. There are other footnote
packages on CTAN, you could try whether any of them supports the style
you want to achieve. With a *minimal* LaTeX example that gives the
desired output, the LyX gurus on this list will certainly help you
implementing this in LyX.

Günter

Re: Footnotes in titles

[Sebastien]

Stefano,
Thanks a lot for your help. That's great. It's not perfect, but it does work,
and is good enough to get by for the moment.
Sebastien

Re: Footnotes in titles

[Sebastien]

 Of course, the documentation is there to show what is possible with
 footmisc, even if it is not recommended. There are other footnote
 packages on CTAN, you could try whether any of them supports the style
 you want to achieve. With a *minimal* LaTeX example that gives the
 desired output, the LyX gurus on this list will certainly help you
 implementing this in LyX.
 
 Günter
 

Thanks for your remarks. I'll look into the latex commands to tweak
this and see if there is anything possible. The solution
suggested by Stefano provides a good starting point. The documentation
on this seems slim, though, despite it being what would appear
to be a fairly common occurrence (footnotes in titles).
Sebastien

Re: Footnotes in titles

[Guenter Milde]

On 2013-10-29, Sebastien wrote:
>> This is a rather uncommon (but not unreasonable) request. I am quite sure
>> there is a way, at least with ERT.

>> If I were you, I would try to get this working in LaTeX first, asking at the
>> comp.text.tex usenet list. Then I would try to get LyX to generate the
>> required LaTeX code.

> Thanks for that. I did try fiddling with commands in ERT, but none
> of them worked. I'll try at the site you mention.

> Also, it might be interesting to note that, in his 'footmisc' package
> documentation, Robin Fairbanks repeats that it's best to avoid
> footnotes in titles — but in the very same document he has
> not one, but *two* footnotes before he even gets to the first
> paragraph!

Of course, the documentation is there to show what is possible with
footmisc, even if it is not recommended. There are other footnote
packages on CTAN, you could try whether any of them supports the style
you want to achieve. With a *minimal* LaTeX example that gives the
desired output, the LyX gurus on this list will certainly help you
implementing this in LyX.

Günter

Re: Footnotes in titles

[Sebastien]

Stefano,
Thanks a lot for your help. That's great. It's not perfect, but it does work,
and is good enough to get by for the moment.
Sebastien

Re: Footnotes in titles

[Sebastien]

> Of course, the documentation is there to show what is possible with
> footmisc, even if it is not recommended. There are other footnote
> packages on CTAN, you could try whether any of them supports the style
> you want to achieve. With a *minimal* LaTeX example that gives the
> desired output, the LyX gurus on this list will certainly help you
> implementing this in LyX.
> 
> Günter
> 

Thanks for your remarks. I'll look into the latex commands to tweak
this and see if there is anything possible. The solution
suggested by Stefano provides a good starting point. The documentation
on this seems slim, though, despite it being what would appear
to be a fairly common occurrence (footnotes in titles).
Sebastien

Re: Footnotes in titles

[Guenter Milde]

On 2013-10-28, Sebastien wrote:
 Wolfgang Engelmann engelmann at uni-tuebingen.de writes:

 Is there a
  way to change the formatting of the footnote mark within a title, in
  order to make the footnote mark less obtrusive at this particular
  place? I've tried a number of things but none of them work.

This is a rather uncommon (but not unreasonable) request. I am quite sure
there is a way, at least with ERT.

If I were you, I would try to get this working in LaTeX first, asking at the
comp.text.tex usenet list. Then I would try to get LyX to generate the
required LaTeX code.

Günter

Re: Footnotes in titles

[Sebastien]

 This is a rather uncommon (but not unreasonable) request. I am quite sure
 there is a way, at least with ERT.
 
 If I were you, I would try to get this working in LaTeX first, asking at the
 comp.text.tex usenet list. Then I would try to get LyX to generate the
 required LaTeX code.
 
 Günter
 
 


Thanks for that. I did try fiddling with commands in ERT, but none
of them worked. I'll try at the site you mention.

Also, it might be interesting to note that, in his 'footmisc' package
documentation, Robin Fairbanks repeats that it's best to avoid
footnotes in titles — but in the very same document he has
not one, but *two* footnotes before he even gets to the first
paragraph!

Sebastien

Re: Footnotes in titles

[stefano franchi]

On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Sebastien s.no...@free.fr wrote:

  This is a rather uncommon (but not unreasonable) request. I am quite sure
  there is a way, at least with ERT.
 
  If I were you, I would try to get this working in LaTeX first, asking at
 the
  comp.text.tex usenet list. Then I would try to get LyX to generate the
  required LaTeX code.
 
  Günter
 
 


 Thanks for that. I did try fiddling with commands in ERT, but none
 of them worked. I'll try at the site you mention.

 Also, it might be interesting to note that, in his 'footmisc' package
 documentation, Robin Fairbanks repeats that it's best to avoid
 footnotes in titles — but in the very same document he has
 not one, but *two* footnotes before he even gets to the first
 paragraph!


Sebastien, you may have tried this already, it kinds of does what you want
but not quite. It may be a starting point though:

try inserting this ERT command just before your footnote: \footnotesize{
(ending with an open brace, no closing brace)
then, just after your footnote, insert, in ERT: } (just the closing brace)
(see enclosed lyx file for details)

This kludge should bring  the size of the footnote mark down to
footnotesize (the usual size for footnote marks, actual size depends on
the base point size of your doc). The problem is that it will put the
footnote mark where a normal superscript would go. If you have a big font
(such as, for instance, in book titles), the footnote mark will be in the
middle of the line. It is not too bad for section and chapter titles
(depending on your class and chapterstyle, of course).
Still, it may be a starting point. You may have to add other ad hoc latex
commands to elevate the footnote mark)

Hope it helps,

Stefano

-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic StudiesPh:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas AM University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org


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Description: application/lyx

Re: Footnotes in titles

[Guenter Milde]

On 2013-10-28, Sebastien wrote:
 Wolfgang Engelmann engelmann at uni-tuebingen.de writes:

 Is there a
  way to change the formatting of the footnote mark within a title, in
  order to make the footnote mark less obtrusive at this particular
  place? I've tried a number of things but none of them work.

This is a rather uncommon (but not unreasonable) request. I am quite sure
there is a way, at least with ERT.

If I were you, I would try to get this working in LaTeX first, asking at the
comp.text.tex usenet list. Then I would try to get LyX to generate the
required LaTeX code.

Günter

Re: Footnotes in titles

[Sebastien]

 This is a rather uncommon (but not unreasonable) request. I am quite sure
 there is a way, at least with ERT.
 
 If I were you, I would try to get this working in LaTeX first, asking at the
 comp.text.tex usenet list. Then I would try to get LyX to generate the
 required LaTeX code.
 
 Günter
 
 


Thanks for that. I did try fiddling with commands in ERT, but none
of them worked. I'll try at the site you mention.

Also, it might be interesting to note that, in his 'footmisc' package
documentation, Robin Fairbanks repeats that it's best to avoid
footnotes in titles — but in the very same document he has
not one, but *two* footnotes before he even gets to the first
paragraph!

Sebastien

Re: Footnotes in titles

[stefano franchi]

On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Sebastien s.no...@free.fr wrote:

  This is a rather uncommon (but not unreasonable) request. I am quite sure
  there is a way, at least with ERT.
 
  If I were you, I would try to get this working in LaTeX first, asking at
 the
  comp.text.tex usenet list. Then I would try to get LyX to generate the
  required LaTeX code.
 
  Günter
 
 


 Thanks for that. I did try fiddling with commands in ERT, but none
 of them worked. I'll try at the site you mention.

 Also, it might be interesting to note that, in his 'footmisc' package
 documentation, Robin Fairbanks repeats that it's best to avoid
 footnotes in titles — but in the very same document he has
 not one, but *two* footnotes before he even gets to the first
 paragraph!


Sebastien, you may have tried this already, it kinds of does what you want
but not quite. It may be a starting point though:

try inserting this ERT command just before your footnote: \footnotesize{
(ending with an open brace, no closing brace)
then, just after your footnote, insert, in ERT: } (just the closing brace)
(see enclosed lyx file for details)

This kludge should bring  the size of the footnote mark down to
footnotesize (the usual size for footnote marks, actual size depends on
the base point size of your doc). The problem is that it will put the
footnote mark where a normal superscript would go. If you have a big font
(such as, for instance, in book titles), the footnote mark will be in the
middle of the line. It is not too bad for section and chapter titles
(depending on your class and chapterstyle, of course).
Still, it may be a starting point. You may have to add other ad hoc latex
commands to elevate the footnote mark)

Hope it helps,

Stefano

-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic StudiesPh:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas AM University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org


titles-with-footnotes.lyx
Description: application/lyx

Re: Footnotes in titles

[Guenter Milde]

On 2013-10-28, Sebastien wrote:
> Wolfgang Engelmann  uni-tuebingen.de> writes:

>> >Is there a
>> > way to change the formatting of the footnote mark within a title, in
>> > order to make the footnote mark less obtrusive at this particular
>> > place? I've tried a number of things but none of them work.

This is a rather uncommon (but not unreasonable) request. I am quite sure
there is a way, at least with ERT.

If I were you, I would try to get this working in LaTeX first, asking at the
comp.text.tex usenet list. Then I would try to get LyX to generate the
required LaTeX code.

Günter

Re: Footnotes in titles

[Sebastien]

> This is a rather uncommon (but not unreasonable) request. I am quite sure
> there is a way, at least with ERT.
> 
> If I were you, I would try to get this working in LaTeX first, asking at the
> comp.text.tex usenet list. Then I would try to get LyX to generate the
> required LaTeX code.
> 
> Günter
> 
> 


Thanks for that. I did try fiddling with commands in ERT, but none
of them worked. I'll try at the site you mention.

Also, it might be interesting to note that, in his 'footmisc' package
documentation, Robin Fairbanks repeats that it's best to avoid
footnotes in titles — but in the very same document he has
not one, but *two* footnotes before he even gets to the first
paragraph!

Sebastien

Re: Footnotes in titles

[stefano franchi]

On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Sebastien  wrote:

> > This is a rather uncommon (but not unreasonable) request. I am quite sure
> > there is a way, at least with ERT.
> >
> > If I were you, I would try to get this working in LaTeX first, asking at
> the
> > comp.text.tex usenet list. Then I would try to get LyX to generate the
> > required LaTeX code.
> >
> > Günter
> >
> >
>
>
> Thanks for that. I did try fiddling with commands in ERT, but none
> of them worked. I'll try at the site you mention.
>
> Also, it might be interesting to note that, in his 'footmisc' package
> documentation, Robin Fairbanks repeats that it's best to avoid
> footnotes in titles — but in the very same document he has
> not one, but *two* footnotes before he even gets to the first
> paragraph!
>

Sebastien, you may have tried this already, it kinds of does what you want
but not quite. It may be a starting point though:

try inserting this ERT command just before your footnote: \footnotesize{
(ending with an open brace, no closing brace)
then, just after your footnote, insert, in ERT: } (just the closing brace)
(see enclosed lyx file for details)

This kludge should bring  the size of the footnote mark down to
"footnotesize" (the usual size for footnote marks, actual size depends on
the base point size of your doc). The problem is that it will put the
footnote mark where a normal superscript would go. If you have a big font
(such as, for instance, in book titles), the footnote mark will be in the
middle of the line. It is not too bad for section and chapter titles
(depending on your class and chapterstyle, of course).
Still, it may be a starting point. You may have to add other ad hoc latex
commands to elevate the footnote mark)

Hope it helps,

Stefano

-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
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titles-with-footnotes.lyx
Description: application/lyx

Re: Footnotes in titles

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

On Sunday 27 October 2013 18:25:20 s.no...@free.fr wrote:
 Hello list members,
 
 This one may be easy but I can't figure it out.
 
 If you put a footnote at the end of a title (sometimes it has to be
 done), the footnote mark obviously takes on the default font of the
 title: usually something big and bold. This makes the footnote mark
 stick out in a way you might not want. Hence the question: is there a
 way to change the formatting of the footnote mark within a title, in
 order to make the footnote mark less obtrusive at this particular
 place? I've tried a number of things but none of them work.
 

Did you try a protected return (ctr return) in the footnote to brake the 
line?
Wolfgang
 Thanks for any help anyone might be able to give.
 
 Sebastien

Re: Footnotes in titles

[Sebastien]

Wolfgang Engelmann engelmann at uni-tuebingen.de writes:

 
 
 Is there a
  way to change the formatting of the footnote mark within a title, in
  order to make the footnote mark less obtrusive at this particular
  place? I've tried a number of things but none of them work.
  
  
 Did you try a protected return (ctr return) in the footnote to brake the line?
 Wolfgang

Thanks for your quick reply. I tried what you suggested--inserting a protected
return within the footnote itself. Upon output to PDF, there is now an error
message, although the document does compile. The result is that the footnote
mark and the corresponding footnote now disappear completely from the output.

But perhaps I wasn't clear enough in my question: the problem is the format of
the footnote reference mark itself at the end of (or even within) the text of a
section or chapter title. I'm wondering if it's possible to change the format of
the reference mark, so that it doesn't get set in large bold type and stick
out awkwardly.

Sebastien

Re: Footnotes in titles

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

On Sunday 27 October 2013 18:25:20 s.no...@free.fr wrote:
 Hello list members,
 
 This one may be easy but I can't figure it out.
 
 If you put a footnote at the end of a title (sometimes it has to be
 done), the footnote mark obviously takes on the default font of the
 title: usually something big and bold. This makes the footnote mark
 stick out in a way you might not want. Hence the question: is there a
 way to change the formatting of the footnote mark within a title, in
 order to make the footnote mark less obtrusive at this particular
 place? I've tried a number of things but none of them work.
 

Did you try a protected return (ctr return) in the footnote to brake the 
line?
Wolfgang
 Thanks for any help anyone might be able to give.
 
 Sebastien

Re: Footnotes in titles

[Sebastien]

Wolfgang Engelmann engelmann at uni-tuebingen.de writes:

 
 
 Is there a
  way to change the formatting of the footnote mark within a title, in
  order to make the footnote mark less obtrusive at this particular
  place? I've tried a number of things but none of them work.
  
  
 Did you try a protected return (ctr return) in the footnote to brake the line?
 Wolfgang

Thanks for your quick reply. I tried what you suggested--inserting a protected
return within the footnote itself. Upon output to PDF, there is now an error
message, although the document does compile. The result is that the footnote
mark and the corresponding footnote now disappear completely from the output.

But perhaps I wasn't clear enough in my question: the problem is the format of
the footnote reference mark itself at the end of (or even within) the text of a
section or chapter title. I'm wondering if it's possible to change the format of
the reference mark, so that it doesn't get set in large bold type and stick
out awkwardly.

Sebastien

Re: Footnotes in titles

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

On Sunday 27 October 2013 18:25:20 s.no...@free.fr wrote:
> Hello list members,
> 
> This one may be easy but I can't figure it out.
> 
> If you put a footnote at the end of a title (sometimes it has to be
> done), the footnote mark obviously takes on the default font of the
> title: usually something big and bold. This makes the footnote mark
> stick out in a way you might not want. Hence the question: is there a
> way to change the formatting of the footnote mark within a title, in
> order to make the footnote mark less obtrusive at this particular
> place? I've tried a number of things but none of them work.
> 

Did you try a protected return (ctr return) in the footnote to brake the 
line?
Wolfgang
> Thanks for any help anyone might be able to give.
> 
> Sebastien

Re: Footnotes in titles

[Sebastien]

Wolfgang Engelmann  uni-tuebingen.de> writes:

> 
> 
> >Is there a
> > way to change the formatting of the footnote mark within a title, in
> > order to make the footnote mark less obtrusive at this particular
> > place? I've tried a number of things but none of them work.
> > 
>  
> Did you try a protected return (ctr return) in the footnote to brake the line?
> Wolfgang

Thanks for your quick reply. I tried what you suggested--inserting a protected
return within the footnote itself. Upon output to PDF, there is now an error
message, although the document does compile. The result is that the footnote
mark and the corresponding footnote now disappear completely from the output.

But perhaps I wasn't clear enough in my question: the problem is the format of
the footnote reference mark itself at the end of (or even within) the text of a
section or chapter title. I'm wondering if it's possible to change the format of
the reference mark, so that it doesn't get set in large bold type and stick
out awkwardly.

Sebastien

Re: Footnotes not numbering

[Scott Kostyshak]

Hi Gordon,

This is a question for lyx-users list, not lyx-docs. I'm CC'ing
lyx-users. For questions like this, it's always helpful if you send a
LyX minimal example: http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/MinimalExample.

Best,

Scott

On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Gordon Watson gordon.wat...@me.com wrote:
 Unlike the LyX Tutorial, my footnotes are not numbering.

 My first footnote from Author-footnote comes with an asterisk. The remainder 
 are not numbered.

 Do I need to change footnote style somewhere?

 Thanks; Gordon

Re: Footnotes not numbering

[Scott Kostyshak]

Hi Gordon,

This is a question for lyx-users list, not lyx-docs. I'm CC'ing
lyx-users. For questions like this, it's always helpful if you send a
LyX minimal example: http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/MinimalExample.

Best,

Scott

On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Gordon Watson gordon.wat...@me.com wrote:
 Unlike the LyX Tutorial, my footnotes are not numbering.

 My first footnote from Author-footnote comes with an asterisk. The remainder 
 are not numbered.

 Do I need to change footnote style somewhere?

 Thanks; Gordon

Re: Footnotes not numbering

[Scott Kostyshak]

Hi Gordon,

This is a question for lyx-users list, not lyx-docs. I'm CC'ing
lyx-users. For questions like this, it's always helpful if you send a
LyX minimal example: http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/MinimalExample.

Best,

Scott

On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Gordon Watson  wrote:
> Unlike the LyX Tutorial, my footnotes are not numbering.
>
> My first footnote from Author-footnote comes with an asterisk. The remainder 
> are not numbered.
>
> Do I need to change "footnote style" somewhere?
>
> Thanks; Gordon

Re: Footnotes question...

[Marcelo Acuña]

The problem in the footnotes is produced by defining flushleft paragraph that 
is assigned to the content of the footnote.
You can see it making click on a footnote and with View  View Source.

If you put it like normal the problem disappears.
You can control the format of the footnote with other commands that do not 
cause this problem.
I use koma-script and I know nothing of memoir, so I can not say exactly how to 
do it
Luck!


 
Marcelo Acuña
    visitá mi sitio web http://www.aleph-uno.com.ar
==

Re: Footnotes question...

[Marcelo Acuña]

The problem in the footnotes is produced by defining flushleft paragraph that 
is assigned to the content of the footnote.
You can see it making click on a footnote and with View  View Source.

If you put it like normal the problem disappears.
You can control the format of the footnote with other commands that do not 
cause this problem.
I use koma-script and I know nothing of memoir, so I can not say exactly how to 
do it
Luck!


 
Marcelo Acuña
    visitá mi sitio web http://www.aleph-uno.com.ar
==

Re: Footnotes question...

[Marcelo Acuña]

The problem in the footnotes is produced by defining flushleft paragraph that 
is assigned to the content of the footnote.
You can see it making click on a footnote and with View > View Source.

If you put it like normal the problem disappears.
You can control the format of the footnote with other commands that do not 
cause this problem.
I use koma-script and I know nothing of memoir, so I can not say exactly how to 
do it
Luck!


 
Marcelo Acuña
    visitá mi sitio web http://www.aleph-uno.com.ar
==

Re: Footnotes question...

[Marcelo Acuña]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/8000701085/in/photostream
Dear all: The URL above shows a couple of footnotes which have a lot
of unnecessary white space between them. Can you please help me with a
hint on how this could be sorted out? Many thanks, FN

Do all footnotes are displayed in this way?
Anyway, it would be necessary to review the source code to see if was 
accidentally introduced some strange command.
Use view source can help.

Marcelo

Re: Footnotes question...

[Marcelo Acuña]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/8000701085/in/photostream
Dear all: The URL above shows a couple of footnotes which have a lot
of unnecessary white space between them. Can you please help me with a
hint on how this could be sorted out? Many thanks, FN

Do all footnotes are displayed in this way?
Anyway, it would be necessary to review the source code to see if was 
accidentally introduced some strange command.
Use view source can help.

Marcelo

Re: Footnotes question...

[Marcelo Acuña]

>http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/8000701085/in/photostream
>Dear all: The URL above shows a couple of footnotes which have a lot
>of unnecessary white space between them. Can you please help me with a
>hint on how this could be sorted out? Many thanks, FN

Do all footnotes are displayed in this way?
Anyway, it would be necessary to review the source code to see if was 
accidentally introduced some strange command.
Use "view source" can help.

Marcelo

Re: Footnotes in longtables

[Rainer M Krug]

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Julien Rioux jri...@physics.utoronto.cawrote:

 On 10/10/2011 11:02 AM, Lastalda Felina wrote:

 Hello!

 I'm trying to insert a footnote in a longtable.

 The embedded objects manual as well as several sources on the web tell
 me this should not be a problem, or that's how I read them.
 But when I do it, the little number shows up but the footnote text
 doesn't. (Footnotes outside the table work fine, though!)

 Can anyone help me, please?

 I can supply a minimal file with the problem, but as I've sent out
 this question a week ago with the minimal file attached and got no
 replies, I'm afraid that the list didn't like me attaching a file. But
 I'm happy to send it upon request.

 Thank you!
 Lastalda


 The email came through and the attachment as well. Unfortunately it seems
 that the set of people that read your message and the set of people that
 know the answer to your question do not overlap. Sorry, hopefully someone
 knows the answer!


If you can't find the answer here, try one of the LaTeX mailing lists.

Also, start small: normal document class, one longtable with footnote - does
it work? Change the document class - does it still work? And continue until
you have your sample document.

If you report back where it fails, you are more likely to find an answer.

Cheers,

Rainer


 --
 Julien




-- 
Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation Biology,
UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany)

Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology
Stellenbosch University
South Africa

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Skype:  RMkrug

Re: Footnotes in longtables

[Rainer M Krug]

OK - here is a small table, everything default, with that behavior.

You can check from here, so the problem is not your document.

Check http://www.latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=558p=1903

Cheers,

Rainer

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Rainer M Krug r.m.k...@gmail.com wrote:



 On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Julien Rioux 
 jri...@physics.utoronto.cawrote:

 On 10/10/2011 11:02 AM, Lastalda Felina wrote:

 Hello!

 I'm trying to insert a footnote in a longtable.

 The embedded objects manual as well as several sources on the web tell
 me this should not be a problem, or that's how I read them.
 But when I do it, the little number shows up but the footnote text
 doesn't. (Footnotes outside the table work fine, though!)

 Can anyone help me, please?

 I can supply a minimal file with the problem, but as I've sent out
 this question a week ago with the minimal file attached and got no
 replies, I'm afraid that the list didn't like me attaching a file. But
 I'm happy to send it upon request.

 Thank you!
 Lastalda


 The email came through and the attachment as well. Unfortunately it seems
 that the set of people that read your message and the set of people that
 know the answer to your question do not overlap. Sorry, hopefully someone
 knows the answer!


 If you can't find the answer here, try one of the LaTeX mailing lists.

 Also, start small: normal document class, one longtable with footnote -
 does it work? Change the document class - does it still work? And continue
 until you have your sample document.

 If you report back where it fails, you are more likely to find an answer.

 Cheers,

 Rainer


 --
 Julien




 --
 Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation Biology,
 UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany)

 Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology
 Stellenbosch University
 South Africa

 Tel :   +33 - (0)9 53 10 27 44
 Cell:   +33 - (0)6 85 62 59 98
 Fax (F):   +33 - (0)9 58 10 27 44

 Fax (D):+49 - (0)3 21 21 25 22 44

 email:  rai...@krugs.de

 Skype:  RMkrug




-- 
Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation Biology,
UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany)

Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology
Stellenbosch University
South Africa

Tel :   +33 - (0)9 53 10 27 44
Cell:   +33 - (0)6 85 62 59 98
Fax (F):   +33 - (0)9 58 10 27 44

Fax (D):+49 - (0)3 21 21 25 22 44

email:  rai...@krugs.de

Skype:  RMkrug


longtableFootnote.lyx
Description: application/lyx

Re: Footnotes in longtables

[Rainer M Krug]

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Julien Rioux jri...@physics.utoronto.cawrote:

 On 10/10/2011 11:02 AM, Lastalda Felina wrote:

 Hello!

 I'm trying to insert a footnote in a longtable.

 The embedded objects manual as well as several sources on the web tell
 me this should not be a problem, or that's how I read them.
 But when I do it, the little number shows up but the footnote text
 doesn't. (Footnotes outside the table work fine, though!)

 Can anyone help me, please?

 I can supply a minimal file with the problem, but as I've sent out
 this question a week ago with the minimal file attached and got no
 replies, I'm afraid that the list didn't like me attaching a file. But
 I'm happy to send it upon request.

 Thank you!
 Lastalda


 The email came through and the attachment as well. Unfortunately it seems
 that the set of people that read your message and the set of people that
 know the answer to your question do not overlap. Sorry, hopefully someone
 knows the answer!


If you can't find the answer here, try one of the LaTeX mailing lists.

Also, start small: normal document class, one longtable with footnote - does
it work? Change the document class - does it still work? And continue until
you have your sample document.

If you report back where it fails, you are more likely to find an answer.

Cheers,

Rainer


 --
 Julien




-- 
Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation Biology,
UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany)

Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology
Stellenbosch University
South Africa

Tel :   +33 - (0)9 53 10 27 44
Cell:   +33 - (0)6 85 62 59 98
Fax (F):   +33 - (0)9 58 10 27 44

Fax (D):+49 - (0)3 21 21 25 22 44

email:  rai...@krugs.de

Skype:  RMkrug

Re: Footnotes in longtables

[Rainer M Krug]

OK - here is a small table, everything default, with that behavior.

You can check from here, so the problem is not your document.

Check http://www.latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=558p=1903

Cheers,

Rainer

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Rainer M Krug r.m.k...@gmail.com wrote:



 On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Julien Rioux 
 jri...@physics.utoronto.cawrote:

 On 10/10/2011 11:02 AM, Lastalda Felina wrote:

 Hello!

 I'm trying to insert a footnote in a longtable.

 The embedded objects manual as well as several sources on the web tell
 me this should not be a problem, or that's how I read them.
 But when I do it, the little number shows up but the footnote text
 doesn't. (Footnotes outside the table work fine, though!)

 Can anyone help me, please?

 I can supply a minimal file with the problem, but as I've sent out
 this question a week ago with the minimal file attached and got no
 replies, I'm afraid that the list didn't like me attaching a file. But
 I'm happy to send it upon request.

 Thank you!
 Lastalda


 The email came through and the attachment as well. Unfortunately it seems
 that the set of people that read your message and the set of people that
 know the answer to your question do not overlap. Sorry, hopefully someone
 knows the answer!


 If you can't find the answer here, try one of the LaTeX mailing lists.

 Also, start small: normal document class, one longtable with footnote -
 does it work? Change the document class - does it still work? And continue
 until you have your sample document.

 If you report back where it fails, you are more likely to find an answer.

 Cheers,

 Rainer


 --
 Julien




 --
 Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation Biology,
 UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany)

 Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology
 Stellenbosch University
 South Africa

 Tel :   +33 - (0)9 53 10 27 44
 Cell:   +33 - (0)6 85 62 59 98
 Fax (F):   +33 - (0)9 58 10 27 44

 Fax (D):+49 - (0)3 21 21 25 22 44

 email:  rai...@krugs.de

 Skype:  RMkrug




-- 
Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation Biology,
UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany)

Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology
Stellenbosch University
South Africa

Tel :   +33 - (0)9 53 10 27 44
Cell:   +33 - (0)6 85 62 59 98
Fax (F):   +33 - (0)9 58 10 27 44

Fax (D):+49 - (0)3 21 21 25 22 44

email:  rai...@krugs.de

Skype:  RMkrug


longtableFootnote.lyx
Description: application/lyx

Re: Footnotes in longtables

[Rainer M Krug]

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Julien Rioux wrote:

> On 10/10/2011 11:02 AM, Lastalda Felina wrote:
>
>> Hello!
>>
>> I'm trying to insert a footnote in a longtable.
>>
>> The embedded objects manual as well as several sources on the web tell
>> me this should not be a problem, or that's how I read them.
>> But when I do it, the little number shows up but the footnote text
>> doesn't. (Footnotes outside the table work fine, though!)
>>
>> Can anyone help me, please?
>>
>> I can supply a minimal file with the problem, but as I've sent out
>> this question a week ago with the minimal file attached and got no
>> replies, I'm afraid that the list didn't like me attaching a file. But
>> I'm happy to send it upon request.
>>
>> Thank you!
>> Lastalda
>>
>>
> The email came through and the attachment as well. Unfortunately it seems
> that the set of people that read your message and the set of people that
> know the answer to your question do not overlap. Sorry, hopefully someone
> knows the answer!
>

If you can't find the answer here, try one of the LaTeX mailing lists.

Also, start small: normal document class, one longtable with footnote - does
it work? Change the document class - does it still work? And continue until
you have your sample document.

If you report back where it fails, you are more likely to find an answer.

Cheers,

Rainer

>
> --
> Julien
>
>


-- 
Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation Biology,
UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany)

Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology
Stellenbosch University
South Africa

Tel :   +33 - (0)9 53 10 27 44
Cell:   +33 - (0)6 85 62 59 98
Fax (F):   +33 - (0)9 58 10 27 44

Fax (D):+49 - (0)3 21 21 25 22 44

email:  rai...@krugs.de

Skype:  RMkrug

Re: Footnotes in longtables

[Rainer M Krug]

OK - here is a small table, everything default, with that behavior.

You can check from here, so the problem is not your document.

Check http://www.latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5=558=1903

Cheers,

Rainer

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Rainer M Krug  wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Julien Rioux 
> wrote:
>
>> On 10/10/2011 11:02 AM, Lastalda Felina wrote:
>>
>>> Hello!
>>>
>>> I'm trying to insert a footnote in a longtable.
>>>
>>> The embedded objects manual as well as several sources on the web tell
>>> me this should not be a problem, or that's how I read them.
>>> But when I do it, the little number shows up but the footnote text
>>> doesn't. (Footnotes outside the table work fine, though!)
>>>
>>> Can anyone help me, please?
>>>
>>> I can supply a minimal file with the problem, but as I've sent out
>>> this question a week ago with the minimal file attached and got no
>>> replies, I'm afraid that the list didn't like me attaching a file. But
>>> I'm happy to send it upon request.
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>> Lastalda
>>>
>>>
>> The email came through and the attachment as well. Unfortunately it seems
>> that the set of people that read your message and the set of people that
>> know the answer to your question do not overlap. Sorry, hopefully someone
>> knows the answer!
>>
>
> If you can't find the answer here, try one of the LaTeX mailing lists.
>
> Also, start small: normal document class, one longtable with footnote -
> does it work? Change the document class - does it still work? And continue
> until you have your sample document.
>
> If you report back where it fails, you are more likely to find an answer.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rainer
>
>>
>> --
>> Julien
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation Biology,
> UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany)
>
> Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology
> Stellenbosch University
> South Africa
>
> Tel :   +33 - (0)9 53 10 27 44
> Cell:   +33 - (0)6 85 62 59 98
> Fax (F):   +33 - (0)9 58 10 27 44
>
> Fax (D):+49 - (0)3 21 21 25 22 44
>
> email:  rai...@krugs.de
>
> Skype:  RMkrug
>
>


-- 
Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation Biology,
UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany)

Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology
Stellenbosch University
South Africa

Tel :   +33 - (0)9 53 10 27 44
Cell:   +33 - (0)6 85 62 59 98
Fax (F):   +33 - (0)9 58 10 27 44

Fax (D):+49 - (0)3 21 21 25 22 44

email:  rai...@krugs.de

Skype:  RMkrug


longtableFootnote.lyx
Description: application/lyx

Re: Footnotes in longtables

[Julien Rioux]

On 10/10/2011 11:02 AM, Lastalda Felina wrote:

Hello!

I'm trying to insert a footnote in a longtable.

The embedded objects manual as well as several sources on the web tell
me this should not be a problem, or that's how I read them.
But when I do it, the little number shows up but the footnote text
doesn't. (Footnotes outside the table work fine, though!)

Can anyone help me, please?

I can supply a minimal file with the problem, but as I've sent out
this question a week ago with the minimal file attached and got no
replies, I'm afraid that the list didn't like me attaching a file. But
I'm happy to send it upon request.

Thank you!
Lastalda



The email came through and the attachment as well. Unfortunately it 
seems that the set of people that read your message and the set of 
people that know the answer to your question do not overlap. Sorry, 
hopefully someone knows the answer!


--
Julien

Re: Footnotes in longtables

[Julien Rioux]

On 10/10/2011 11:02 AM, Lastalda Felina wrote:

Hello!

I'm trying to insert a footnote in a longtable.

The embedded objects manual as well as several sources on the web tell
me this should not be a problem, or that's how I read them.
But when I do it, the little number shows up but the footnote text
doesn't. (Footnotes outside the table work fine, though!)

Can anyone help me, please?

I can supply a minimal file with the problem, but as I've sent out
this question a week ago with the minimal file attached and got no
replies, I'm afraid that the list didn't like me attaching a file. But
I'm happy to send it upon request.

Thank you!
Lastalda



The email came through and the attachment as well. Unfortunately it 
seems that the set of people that read your message and the set of 
people that know the answer to your question do not overlap. Sorry, 
hopefully someone knows the answer!


--
Julien

Re: Footnotes in longtables

[Julien Rioux]

On 10/10/2011 11:02 AM, Lastalda Felina wrote:

Hello!

I'm trying to insert a footnote in a longtable.

The embedded objects manual as well as several sources on the web tell
me this should not be a problem, or that's how I read them.
But when I do it, the little number shows up but the footnote text
doesn't. (Footnotes outside the table work fine, though!)

Can anyone help me, please?

I can supply a minimal file with the problem, but as I've sent out
this question a week ago with the minimal file attached and got no
replies, I'm afraid that the list didn't like me attaching a file. But
I'm happy to send it upon request.

Thank you!
Lastalda



The email came through and the attachment as well. Unfortunately it 
seems that the set of people that read your message and the set of 
people that know the answer to your question do not overlap. Sorry, 
hopefully someone knows the answer!


--
Julien

Re: Footnotes, new numbers from each chapter...

[Kulkarni Shantanu]

*  Frederick FN Noronha   
*?? ??  fredericknoro...@gmail.com [110814 23:53]:
 Dear all: Is there some way I could start the footnote number new with each
 chapter -- that is, it should start from 1, 2, 3 etc at the start of every
 chapter? Many thanks in advance. FN

Please try the footmisc package. Something like,
\usepackage[perpage]{footmisc}

Remember, it needs at least two passes to do this correctly.

Cheers,
Shantanu
www.shantanukulkarni.org
-- 

Re: Footnotes, new numbers from each chapter...

[Richard Heck]

On 08/14/2011 02:35 PM, Kulkarni Shantanu wrote:
 *  Frederick FN Noronha   
 *?? ??  fredericknoro...@gmail.com [110814 23:53]:
 Dear all: Is there some way I could start the footnote number new with each
 chapter -- that is, it should start from 1, 2, 3 etc at the start of every
 chapter? Many thanks in advance. FN
 Please try the footmisc package. Something like,
 \usepackage[perpage]{footmisc}

No, he wanted them to start anew with each chapter, not on every page.

Frederick, the default behavior in most classes that have chapters
(article, e.g., does not) is for the footnote counter to be reset at the
start of each chapter. What class are you using?

Richard

Re: Footnotes, new numbers from each chapter...

[Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا]

Thanks, Richard. Am using book (Memoire). Rgds, FN

Re: Footnotes, new numbers from each chapter...

Richard Heck
Sun, 14 Aug 2011 11:59:44 -0700

On 08/14/2011 02:35 PM, Kulkarni Shantanu wrote:
 *  Frederick FN Noronha  
 *?? ??  fredericknoro...@gmail.com [110814 23:53]:
 Dear all: Is there some way I could start the footnote number new with each
 chapter -- that is, it should start from 1, 2, 3 etc at the start of every
 chapter? Many thanks in advance. FN
 Please try the footmisc package. Something like,
 \usepackage[perpage]{footmisc}

No, he wanted them to start anew with each chapter, not on every page.

Frederick, the default behavior in most classes that have chapters
(article, e.g., does not) is for the footnote counter to be reset at the
start of each chapter. What class are you using?

Richard

FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 (after 2pm)
#784 Nr Lourdes Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India
http://fn.goa-india.org http://goa1556.goa-india.org


2011/8/14 Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
fredericknoro...@gmail.com

 Dear all: Is there some way I could start the footnote number new with each 
 chapter -- that is, it should start from 1, 2, 3 etc at the start of every 
 chapter? Many thanks in advance. FN

 FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 (after 2pm)
 #784 Nr Lourdes Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India
 http://fn.goa-india.org http://goa1556.goa-india.org

Re: Footnotes, new numbers from each chapter...

[Kulkarni Shantanu]

*  Frederick FN Noronha   
*?? ??  fredericknoro...@gmail.com [110814 23:53]:
 Dear all: Is there some way I could start the footnote number new with each
 chapter -- that is, it should start from 1, 2, 3 etc at the start of every
 chapter? Many thanks in advance. FN

Please try the footmisc package. Something like,
\usepackage[perpage]{footmisc}

Remember, it needs at least two passes to do this correctly.

Cheers,
Shantanu
www.shantanukulkarni.org
-- 

Re: Footnotes, new numbers from each chapter...

[Richard Heck]

On 08/14/2011 02:35 PM, Kulkarni Shantanu wrote:
 *  Frederick FN Noronha   
 *?? ??  fredericknoro...@gmail.com [110814 23:53]:
 Dear all: Is there some way I could start the footnote number new with each
 chapter -- that is, it should start from 1, 2, 3 etc at the start of every
 chapter? Many thanks in advance. FN
 Please try the footmisc package. Something like,
 \usepackage[perpage]{footmisc}

No, he wanted them to start anew with each chapter, not on every page.

Frederick, the default behavior in most classes that have chapters
(article, e.g., does not) is for the footnote counter to be reset at the
start of each chapter. What class are you using?

Richard

Re: Footnotes, new numbers from each chapter...

[Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا]

Thanks, Richard. Am using book (Memoire). Rgds, FN

Re: Footnotes, new numbers from each chapter...

Richard Heck
Sun, 14 Aug 2011 11:59:44 -0700

On 08/14/2011 02:35 PM, Kulkarni Shantanu wrote:
 *  Frederick FN Noronha  
 *?? ??  fredericknoro...@gmail.com [110814 23:53]:
 Dear all: Is there some way I could start the footnote number new with each
 chapter -- that is, it should start from 1, 2, 3 etc at the start of every
 chapter? Many thanks in advance. FN
 Please try the footmisc package. Something like,
 \usepackage[perpage]{footmisc}

No, he wanted them to start anew with each chapter, not on every page.

Frederick, the default behavior in most classes that have chapters
(article, e.g., does not) is for the footnote counter to be reset at the
start of each chapter. What class are you using?

Richard

FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 (after 2pm)
#784 Nr Lourdes Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India
http://fn.goa-india.org http://goa1556.goa-india.org


2011/8/14 Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
fredericknoro...@gmail.com

 Dear all: Is there some way I could start the footnote number new with each 
 chapter -- that is, it should start from 1, 2, 3 etc at the start of every 
 chapter? Many thanks in advance. FN

 FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 (after 2pm)
 #784 Nr Lourdes Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India
 http://fn.goa-india.org http://goa1556.goa-india.org

Re: Footnotes, new numbers from each chapter...

[Kulkarni Shantanu]

*  Frederick FN Noronha   
*?? ??   [110814 23:53]:
> Dear all: Is there some way I could start the footnote number new with each
> chapter -- that is, it should start from 1, 2, 3 etc at the start of every
> chapter? Many thanks in advance. FN

Please try the footmisc package. Something like,
\usepackage[perpage]{footmisc}

Remember, it needs at least two passes to do this correctly.

Cheers,
Shantanu
www.shantanukulkarni.org
-- 

Re: Footnotes, new numbers from each chapter...

[Richard Heck]

On 08/14/2011 02:35 PM, Kulkarni Shantanu wrote:
> *  Frederick FN Noronha   
> *?? ??   [110814 23:53]:
>> Dear all: Is there some way I could start the footnote number new with each
>> chapter -- that is, it should start from 1, 2, 3 etc at the start of every
>> chapter? Many thanks in advance. FN
> Please try the footmisc package. Something like,
> \usepackage[perpage]{footmisc}
>
No, he wanted them to start anew with each chapter, not on every page.

Frederick, the default behavior in most classes that have chapters
(article, e.g., does not) is for the footnote counter to be reset at the
start of each chapter. What class are you using?

Richard

Re: Footnotes, new numbers from each chapter...

[Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا]

Thanks, Richard. Am using book (Memoire). Rgds, FN

Re: Footnotes, new numbers from each chapter...

Richard Heck
Sun, 14 Aug 2011 11:59:44 -0700

On 08/14/2011 02:35 PM, Kulkarni Shantanu wrote:
> *  Frederick FN Noronha  
> *?? ??  <fredericknoro...@gmail.com> [110814 23:53]:
>> Dear all: Is there some way I could start the footnote number new with each
>> chapter -- that is, it should start from 1, 2, 3 etc at the start of every
>> chapter? Many thanks in advance. FN
> Please try the footmisc package. Something like,
> \usepackage[perpage]{footmisc}
>
No, he wanted them to start anew with each chapter, not on every page.

Frederick, the default behavior in most classes that have chapters
(article, e.g., does not) is for the footnote counter to be reset at the
start of each chapter. What class are you using?

Richard

FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 (after 2pm)
#784 Nr Lourdes Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India
http://fn.goa-india.org http://goa1556.goa-india.org


2011/8/14 Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
<fredericknoro...@gmail.com>
>
> Dear all: Is there some way I could start the footnote number new with each 
> chapter -- that is, it should start from 1, 2, 3 etc at the start of every 
> chapter? Many thanks in advance. FN
>
> FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 (after 2pm)
> #784 Nr Lourdes Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India
> http://fn.goa-india.org http://goa1556.goa-india.org

Re: Footnotes... across the chapters

[Richard Heck]

On 06/26/2011 07:43 AM,  Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك
نورونيا  wrote:
 Is it possible for Lyx to offer footnote numbering across the
 chapters? I mean, if there are 17 footnotes in Chapter 1, the first
 footnote in Chapter 2 should be #18, and not #1. 

There is a LaTeX package called remreset that allows you to do this kind
of thing. Once you have it installed, you can put this in your preamble:

\@removefromreset{footnote}{chapter}

rh

Re: Footnotes... across the chapters

[Richard Heck]

On 06/26/2011 07:43 AM,  Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك
نورونيا  wrote:
 Is it possible for Lyx to offer footnote numbering across the
 chapters? I mean, if there are 17 footnotes in Chapter 1, the first
 footnote in Chapter 2 should be #18, and not #1. 

There is a LaTeX package called remreset that allows you to do this kind
of thing. Once you have it installed, you can put this in your preamble:

\@removefromreset{footnote}{chapter}

rh

Re: Footnotes... across the chapters

[Richard Heck]

On 06/26/2011 07:43 AM,  Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك
نورونيا  wrote:
> Is it possible for Lyx to offer footnote numbering across the
> chapters? I mean, if there are 17 footnotes in Chapter 1, the first
> footnote in Chapter 2 should be #18, and not #1. 
>
There is a LaTeX package called remreset that allows you to do this kind
of thing. Once you have it installed, you can put this in your preamble:

\@removefromreset{footnote}{chapter}

rh

Re: Footnotes

[ehud.kap...@gmail.com]

test submission.

On 1/8/2011 7:04 AM, Richard Heck wrote:

On 01/08/2011 01:02 AM, Charles wrote:


I'm having a hard time finding how to install footnotes in the User 
Guides, could you give me a little guidance here...I'm new with this.



InsertFootnote?

rh



--
Ehud Kaplan,

Re: Footnotes

[ehud.kap...@gmail.com]

test submission.

On 1/8/2011 7:04 AM, Richard Heck wrote:

On 01/08/2011 01:02 AM, Charles wrote:


I'm having a hard time finding how to install footnotes in the User 
Guides, could you give me a little guidance here...I'm new with this.



InsertFootnote?

rh



--
Ehud Kaplan,

Re: Footnotes

[ehud.kap...@gmail.com]

test submission.

On 1/8/2011 7:04 AM, Richard Heck wrote:

On 01/08/2011 01:02 AM, Charles wrote:


I'm having a hard time finding how to install footnotes in the User 
Guides, could you give me a little guidance here...I'm new with this.



Insert>Footnote?

rh



--
Ehud Kaplan,

Re: Footnotes

[Richard Heck]

On 01/08/2011 01:02 AM, Charles wrote:


I'm having a hard time finding how to install footnotes in the User 
Guides, could you give me a little guidance here...I'm new with this.



InsertFootnote?

rh

Re: Footnotes

[Richard Heck]

On 01/08/2011 01:02 AM, Charles wrote:


I'm having a hard time finding how to install footnotes in the User 
Guides, could you give me a little guidance here...I'm new with this.



InsertFootnote?

rh

Re: Footnotes

[Richard Heck]

On 01/08/2011 01:02 AM, Charles wrote:


I'm having a hard time finding how to install footnotes in the User 
Guides, could you give me a little guidance here...I'm new with this.



Insert>Footnote?

rh

Re: Footnotes Formatting: Font Size and Double-Spacing

[Charles de Miramon]

M. C. Sunny Wong wrote:

 Dear LyX Users:
 
 Would you please let me know if there is anyway to make the footnotes to
 be 12-font-size and double-spaced?
 

If you use KomaScript, look the documentation. Basically, you must add 
something like \setkomafont{footnotes}{@)for changing the font of the 
footnotes text

For double-space, look the package setspace

Charles

-- 
http://www.kde-france.org

Re: Footnotes Formatting: Font Size and Double-Spacing

[M. C. Sunny Wong]

Dear Charles,

I was trying to reply your message, but it didn't work, so I generate this
new thread.

Thank you for your message. Your suggestion is very helpful.  Since I am a
beginner of LyX (I have been using LyX for about 6 months only), I am still
learning all of the great features about the program.

Here is how I solved my problem, and hope that other users will find it
useful.

1. I went to Document  Settings..., then on Document Class, I chose
article (KOMA-Script)
2. In the same box, I went to LaTeX Preamble, then I add the following
scripts in the end:

\linespread{1.5}

\setkomafont{footnote}{\normalsize}

\let\myFoot\footnote \renewcommand{\footnote}[1]{\myFoot{#1\vspace{5mm}}}

The first line is to make the whole document double-spaced (regardless the
text or footnotes);
The second line is to make the font size of the footnotes to be normal text
size;
The third line is to make the vertical space between footnotes a little bit
wider.

I am not sure my scripts are efficient. But at least they give the format I
need.  Hope they are helpful for other new users.

Sincerely,

Sunny

Re: Footnotes Formatting: Font Size and Double-Spacing

[Charles de Miramon]

M. C. Sunny Wong wrote:

 Dear LyX Users:
 
 Would you please let me know if there is anyway to make the footnotes to
 be 12-font-size and double-spaced?
 

If you use KomaScript, look the documentation. Basically, you must add 
something like \setkomafont{footnotes}{@)for changing the font of the 
footnotes text

For double-space, look the package setspace

Charles

-- 
http://www.kde-france.org

Re: Footnotes Formatting: Font Size and Double-Spacing

[M. C. Sunny Wong]

Dear Charles,

I was trying to reply your message, but it didn't work, so I generate this
new thread.

Thank you for your message. Your suggestion is very helpful.  Since I am a
beginner of LyX (I have been using LyX for about 6 months only), I am still
learning all of the great features about the program.

Here is how I solved my problem, and hope that other users will find it
useful.

1. I went to Document  Settings..., then on Document Class, I chose
article (KOMA-Script)
2. In the same box, I went to LaTeX Preamble, then I add the following
scripts in the end:

\linespread{1.5}

\setkomafont{footnote}{\normalsize}

\let\myFoot\footnote \renewcommand{\footnote}[1]{\myFoot{#1\vspace{5mm}}}

The first line is to make the whole document double-spaced (regardless the
text or footnotes);
The second line is to make the font size of the footnotes to be normal text
size;
The third line is to make the vertical space between footnotes a little bit
wider.

I am not sure my scripts are efficient. But at least they give the format I
need.  Hope they are helpful for other new users.

Sincerely,

Sunny

Re: Footnotes Formatting: Font Size and Double-Spacing

[Charles de Miramon]

M. C. Sunny Wong wrote:

> Dear LyX Users:
> 
> Would you please let me know if there is anyway to make the footnotes to
> be 12-font-size and double-spaced?
> 

If you use KomaScript, look the documentation. Basically, you must add 
something like \setkomafont{footnotes}{@)for changing the font of the 
footnotes text

For double-space, look the package setspace

Charles

-- 
http://www.kde-france.org

Re: Footnotes Formatting: Font Size and Double-Spacing

[M. C. Sunny Wong]

Dear Charles,

I was trying to reply your message, but it didn't work, so I generate this
new thread.

Thank you for your message. Your suggestion is very helpful.  Since I am a
beginner of LyX (I have been using LyX for about 6 months only), I am still
learning all of the great features about the program.

Here is how I solved my problem, and hope that other users will find it
useful.

1. I went to "Document > Settings...", then on "Document Class", I chose
"article (KOMA-Script)"
2. In the same box, I went to "LaTeX Preamble", then I add the following
scripts in the end:

\linespread{1.5}

\setkomafont{footnote}{\normalsize}

\let\myFoot\footnote \renewcommand{\footnote}[1]{\myFoot{#1\vspace{5mm}}}

The first line is to make the whole document double-spaced (regardless the
text or footnotes);
The second line is to make the font size of the footnotes to be normal text
size;
The third line is to make the vertical space between footnotes a little bit
wider.

I am not sure my scripts are efficient. But at least they give the format I
need.  Hope they are helpful for other new users.

Sincerely,

Sunny

Re: footnotes problem, .rtf import, view source on 1.5.3

[G. Milde]

On 26.02.08, rgheck wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Quoting rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 You don't have Use Paragraph's Default Alignment? The point of this
 option is to undo customization. That's why I added it. ;-)

So it works similar to

 * the [default] option in the line-spacing drop down list just above,

 * the [Reset] option in the drop down lists in EditText StyleCustomized...

 Hmm. We had a really, really long discussion about what this button
 should say. And now it looks as if maybe we chose badly. Would
 Default by itself have been clearer? Or would removing the
 [Justified] part have been helpful? I'd like to get this right.

How about using two radiobutton lists in two columns for Line spacing and
Alignment?

Alignment   Line spacing

(*) Default (*) Default
( ) Justified   ( ) Single
( ) Left( ) 1.5
( ) Center  ( ) Double
( ) Right   ( ) [text field]

[x] Indent Paragraph


(With a tooltip for the custom line spacing text field saying: Custom line
spacing, e.g. 1.3ex.)


Günter

Re: footnotes problem, .rtf import, view source on 1.5.3

[G. Milde]

On 26.02.08, rgheck wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Quoting rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 You don't have Use Paragraph's Default Alignment? The point of this
 option is to undo customization. That's why I added it. ;-)

So it works similar to

 * the [default] option in the line-spacing drop down list just above,

 * the [Reset] option in the drop down lists in EditText StyleCustomized...

 Hmm. We had a really, really long discussion about what this button
 should say. And now it looks as if maybe we chose badly. Would
 Default by itself have been clearer? Or would removing the
 [Justified] part have been helpful? I'd like to get this right.

How about using two radiobutton lists in two columns for Line spacing and
Alignment?

Alignment   Line spacing

(*) Default (*) Default
( ) Justified   ( ) Single
( ) Left( ) 1.5
( ) Center  ( ) Double
( ) Right   ( ) [text field]

[x] Indent Paragraph


(With a tooltip for the custom line spacing text field saying: Custom line
spacing, e.g. 1.3ex.)


Günter

Re: footnotes problem, .rtf import, view source on 1.5.3

[G. Milde]

On 26.02.08, rgheck wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Quoting rgheck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> You don't have "Use Paragraph's Default Alignment"? The point of this
> option is to undo customization. That's why I added it. ;-)

So it works similar to

 * the [default] option in the line-spacing drop down list just above,

 * the [Reset] option in the drop down lists in Edit>Text Style>Customized...

>>> Hmm. We had a really, really long discussion about what this button
>>> should say. And now it looks as if maybe we chose badly. Would
>>> "Default" by itself have been clearer? Or would removing the
>>> "[Justified]" part have been helpful? I'd like to get this right.

How about using two radiobutton lists in two columns for Line spacing and
Alignment?

Alignment   Line spacing

(*) Default (*) Default
( ) Justified   ( ) Single
( ) Left( ) 1.5
( ) Center  ( ) Double
( ) Right   ( ) []

[x] Indent Paragraph


(With a tooltip for the custom line spacing text field saying: "Custom line
spacing, e.g. 1.3ex".)


Günter

Re: footnotes problem, .rtf import, view source on 1.5.3

[rgheck]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Quoting rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:




You don't have Use Paragraph's Default Alignment? The point of this
option is to undo customization. That's why I added it. ;-)


Ah! I didn't try it before because it says [justified] But this  
indeed fixes the formatting of the pasted footnote content. Thanks!



Hmm. We had a really, really long discussion about what this button
should say. And now it looks as if maybe we chose badly. Would
Default by itself have been clearer? Or would removing the
[Justified] part have been helpful? I'd like to get this right.

rh


My take is that if justified wasn't there I probably would have 
tried it. But if it actually removes paragraph formatting (even if it 
resorts to the default for the context) wouldn't it be clearer to say 
Remove Paragraph Formatting?  I'm surmising it's doing both. So I 
understand the problem in the wording. And I appreciate your interest 
in the detail here!


The short version of why it doesn't say that is that, if there's no 
special formatting, then that box will be checked to represent that 
there is no special formatting. But I suppose we could change the label 
depending upon which situation we're in.


rh

Re: footnotes problem, .rtf import, view source on 1.5.3

[jf7]

Quoting rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Quoting rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:




You don't have Use Paragraph's Default Alignment? The point of this
option is to undo customization. That's why I added it. ;-)


Ah! I didn't try it before because it says [justified] But this  
  indeed fixes the formatting of the pasted footnote content.   
Thanks!



Hmm. We had a really, really long discussion about what this button
should say. And now it looks as if maybe we chose badly. Would
Default by itself have been clearer? Or would removing the
[Justified] part have been helpful? I'd like to get this right.

rh


My take is that if justified wasn't there I probably would have   
tried it. But if it actually removes paragraph formatting (even if   
it resorts to the default for the context) wouldn't it be clearer   
to say Remove Paragraph Formatting?  I'm surmising it's doing   
both. So I understand the problem in the wording. And I appreciate   
your interest in the detail here!


The short version of why it doesn't say that is that, if there's no
special formatting, then that box will be checked to represent that
there is no special formatting. But I suppose we could change the label
depending upon which situation we're in.

rh


I just noticed that these imported docs have some rag-right (left)  
formatting in them which were left over from the import, and some  
randomly justified paragraphs. In this case the button as labeled  
makes perfect sense because that's what it does.


But where I ran into this was in trying to format a footnote to which  
I wouldn't think justified would apply except for the fact that the  
marker is in a justified paragraph.


From my view I was trying to format a footnote and get rid of an  
extra blank line in the footnote footer region. So it didn't occur to  
me that justified would apply to that. But maybe it does. (paragraph  
formatting is otherwise defined in the class?) I think that even if  
justified is correct,  it was a little mis-leading -- perhaps just  
due to my ignorance. However the original text Apply Paragraph's  
Default Alignment by itself is accurate because it would have implied  
to me that it might properly format a footnote -- which it does!


Now that I know that it does properly format what ever style, that it  
says justified isn't a problem. But then I don't know if it applies  
to every style to which it could be applied. If it does, I don't see a  
problem leaving it there since it would be accurate in that case. If  
it doesn't, then either leaving it out or having it change by context  
would keep it accurate.


I can see why this detail was a long discussion. I hope my  
user-feedback is of some help. You guys are doing an awesome job!


jamie faunt

Re: footnotes problem, .rtf import, view source on 1.5.3

[rgheck]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Quoting rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:




You don't have Use Paragraph's Default Alignment? The point of this
option is to undo customization. That's why I added it. ;-)


Ah! I didn't try it before because it says [justified] But this  
indeed fixes the formatting of the pasted footnote content. Thanks!



Hmm. We had a really, really long discussion about what this button
should say. And now it looks as if maybe we chose badly. Would
Default by itself have been clearer? Or would removing the
[Justified] part have been helpful? I'd like to get this right.

rh


My take is that if justified wasn't there I probably would have 
tried it. But if it actually removes paragraph formatting (even if it 
resorts to the default for the context) wouldn't it be clearer to say 
Remove Paragraph Formatting?  I'm surmising it's doing both. So I 
understand the problem in the wording. And I appreciate your interest 
in the detail here!

Re: footnotes problem, .rtf import, view source on 1.5.3

[rgheck]

My take is that if justified wasn't there I probably would have  
tried it. But if it actually removes paragraph formatting (even if  
it resorts to the default for the context) wouldn't it be clearer  
to say Remove Paragraph Formatting?  I'm surmising it's doing  
both. So I understand the problem in the wording. And I appreciate  
your interest in the detail here!


The short version of why it doesn't say that is that, if there's no
special formatting, then that box will be checked to represent that
there is no special formatting. But I suppose we could change the label
depending upon which situation we're in.
 


I just noticed that these imported docs have some rag-right (left) 
formatting in them which were left over from the import, and some 
randomly justified paragraphs. In this case the button as labeled 
makes perfect sense because that's what it does.


Right. And if you have a bunch of paragraphs that are differently 
formatted, Default will set them all to their default, whatever that 
might be.


But where I ran into this was in trying to format a footnote to which 
I wouldn't think justified would apply except for the fact that the 
marker is in a justified paragraph.


From my view I was trying to format a footnote and get rid of an extra 
blank line in the footnote footer region. So it didn't occur to me 
that justified would apply to that. But maybe it does. (paragraph 
formatting is otherwise defined in the class?) I think that even if 
justified is correct,  it was a little mis-leading -- perhaps just 
due to my ignorance. However the original text Apply Paragraph's 
Default Alignment by itself is accurate because it would have implied 
to me that it might properly format a footnote -- which it does!


In principle, a footnote could be formatted differently from the main 
text---though that would look quite silly. It may be that 1.6 won't 
allow such customization in footnotes. It probably shouldn't if it does.


Richard

Re: footnotes problem, .rtf import, view source on 1.5.3

[jf7]

Quoting rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

From my view I was trying to format a footnote and get rid of an   
extra blank line in the footnote footer region. So it didn't occur   
to me that justified would apply to that. But maybe it does.   
(paragraph formatting is otherwise defined in the class?) I think   
that even if justified is correct,  it was a little mis-leading   
-- perhaps just due to my ignorance. However the original text   
Apply Paragraph's Default Alignment by itself is accurate because  
 it would have implied to me that it might properly format a   
footnote -- which it does!



In principle, a footnote could be formatted differently from the main
text---though that would look quite silly. It may be that 1.6 won't
allow such customization in footnotes. It probably shouldn't if it does.

Richard


I'm not quite sure why you're mentioning customizing them. I'm happy  
with how it fixed them. If it continues to standardize them, then  
that'll be great.


jf

Re: footnotes problem, .rtf import, view source on 1.5.3

[rgheck]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Quoting rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

From my view I was trying to format a footnote and get rid of an  
extra blank line in the footnote footer region. So it didn't occur  
to me that justified would apply to that. But maybe it does.  
(paragraph formatting is otherwise defined in the class?) I think  
that even if justified is correct,  it was a little mis-leading  
-- perhaps just due to my ignorance. However the original text  
Apply Paragraph's Default Alignment by itself is accurate because 
 it would have implied to me that it might properly format a  
footnote -- which it does!



In principle, a footnote could be formatted differently from the main
text---though that would look quite silly. It may be that 1.6 won't
allow such customization in footnotes. It probably shouldn't if it does.


I'm not quite sure why you're mentioning customizing them. I'm happy 
with how it fixed them. If it continues to standardize them, then 
that'll be great.


What I meant was: Maybe LyX shouldn't have permitted the problem in the 
first place.


rh

Re: footnotes problem, .rtf import, view source on 1.5.3

[jf7]

Quoting rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Quoting rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

From my view I was trying to format a footnote and get rid of an   
 extra blank line in the footnote footer region. So it didn't   
occur  to me that justified would apply to that. But maybe it   
does.  (paragraph formatting is otherwise defined in the class?)   
I think  that even if justified is correct,  it was a little   
mis-leading  -- perhaps just due to my ignorance. However the   
original text  Apply Paragraph's Default Alignment by itself is  
 accurate because  it would have implied to me that it might   
properly format a  footnote -- which it does!



In principle, a footnote could be formatted differently from the main
text---though that would look quite silly. It may be that 1.6 won't
allow such customization in footnotes. It probably shouldn't if it does.


I'm not quite sure why you're mentioning customizing them. I'm   
happy with how it fixed them. If it continues to standardize them,   
then that'll be great.



What I meant was: Maybe LyX shouldn't have permitted the problem in the
first place.


Ah -- I see. Yeah -- that would be good. Thanks!
jf

Re: footnotes problem, .rtf import, view source on 1.5.3

[rgheck]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Quoting rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:




You don't have Use Paragraph's Default Alignment? The point of this
option is to undo customization. That's why I added it. ;-)


Ah! I didn't try it before because it says [justified] But this  
indeed fixes the formatting of the pasted footnote content. Thanks!



Hmm. We had a really, really long discussion about what this button
should say. And now it looks as if maybe we chose badly. Would
Default by itself have been clearer? Or would removing the
[Justified] part have been helpful? I'd like to get this right.

rh


My take is that if justified wasn't there I probably would have 
tried it. But if it actually removes paragraph formatting (even if it 
resorts to the default for the context) wouldn't it be clearer to say 
Remove Paragraph Formatting?  I'm surmising it's doing both. So I 
understand the problem in the wording. And I appreciate your interest 
in the detail here!


The short version of why it doesn't say that is that, if there's no 
special formatting, then that box will be checked to represent that 
there is no special formatting. But I suppose we could change the label 
depending upon which situation we're in.


rh

Re: footnotes problem, .rtf import, view source on 1.5.3

[jf7]

Quoting rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Quoting rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:




You don't have Use Paragraph's Default Alignment? The point of this
option is to undo customization. That's why I added it. ;-)


Ah! I didn't try it before because it says [justified] But this  
  indeed fixes the formatting of the pasted footnote content.   
Thanks!



Hmm. We had a really, really long discussion about what this button
should say. And now it looks as if maybe we chose badly. Would
Default by itself have been clearer? Or would removing the
[Justified] part have been helpful? I'd like to get this right.

rh


My take is that if justified wasn't there I probably would have   
tried it. But if it actually removes paragraph formatting (even if   
it resorts to the default for the context) wouldn't it be clearer   
to say Remove Paragraph Formatting?  I'm surmising it's doing   
both. So I understand the problem in the wording. And I appreciate   
your interest in the detail here!


The short version of why it doesn't say that is that, if there's no
special formatting, then that box will be checked to represent that
there is no special formatting. But I suppose we could change the label
depending upon which situation we're in.

rh


I just noticed that these imported docs have some rag-right (left)  
formatting in them which were left over from the import, and some  
randomly justified paragraphs. In this case the button as labeled  
makes perfect sense because that's what it does.


But where I ran into this was in trying to format a footnote to which  
I wouldn't think justified would apply except for the fact that the  
marker is in a justified paragraph.


From my view I was trying to format a footnote and get rid of an  
extra blank line in the footnote footer region. So it didn't occur to  
me that justified would apply to that. But maybe it does. (paragraph  
formatting is otherwise defined in the class?) I think that even if  
justified is correct,  it was a little mis-leading -- perhaps just  
due to my ignorance. However the original text Apply Paragraph's  
Default Alignment by itself is accurate because it would have implied  
to me that it might properly format a footnote -- which it does!


Now that I know that it does properly format what ever style, that it  
says justified isn't a problem. But then I don't know if it applies  
to every style to which it could be applied. If it does, I don't see a  
problem leaving it there since it would be accurate in that case. If  
it doesn't, then either leaving it out or having it change by context  
would keep it accurate.


I can see why this detail was a long discussion. I hope my  
user-feedback is of some help. You guys are doing an awesome job!


jamie faunt

Re: footnotes problem, .rtf import, view source on 1.5.3

[rgheck]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Quoting rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:




You don't have Use Paragraph's Default Alignment? The point of this
option is to undo customization. That's why I added it. ;-)


Ah! I didn't try it before because it says [justified] But this  
indeed fixes the formatting of the pasted footnote content. Thanks!



Hmm. We had a really, really long discussion about what this button
should say. And now it looks as if maybe we chose badly. Would
Default by itself have been clearer? Or would removing the
[Justified] part have been helpful? I'd like to get this right.

rh


My take is that if justified wasn't there I probably would have 
tried it. But if it actually removes paragraph formatting (even if it 
resorts to the default for the context) wouldn't it be clearer to say 
Remove Paragraph Formatting?  I'm surmising it's doing both. So I 
understand the problem in the wording. And I appreciate your interest 
in the detail here!

Re: footnotes problem, .rtf import, view source on 1.5.3

[rgheck]

My take is that if justified wasn't there I probably would have  
tried it. But if it actually removes paragraph formatting (even if  
it resorts to the default for the context) wouldn't it be clearer  
to say Remove Paragraph Formatting?  I'm surmising it's doing  
both. So I understand the problem in the wording. And I appreciate  
your interest in the detail here!


The short version of why it doesn't say that is that, if there's no
special formatting, then that box will be checked to represent that
there is no special formatting. But I suppose we could change the label
depending upon which situation we're in.
 


I just noticed that these imported docs have some rag-right (left) 
formatting in them which were left over from the import, and some 
randomly justified paragraphs. In this case the button as labeled 
makes perfect sense because that's what it does.


Right. And if you have a bunch of paragraphs that are differently 
formatted, Default will set them all to their default, whatever that 
might be.


But where I ran into this was in trying to format a footnote to which 
I wouldn't think justified would apply except for the fact that the 
marker is in a justified paragraph.


From my view I was trying to format a footnote and get rid of an extra 
blank line in the footnote footer region. So it didn't occur to me 
that justified would apply to that. But maybe it does. (paragraph 
formatting is otherwise defined in the class?) I think that even if 
justified is correct,  it was a little mis-leading -- perhaps just 
due to my ignorance. However the original text Apply Paragraph's 
Default Alignment by itself is accurate because it would have implied 
to me that it might properly format a footnote -- which it does!


In principle, a footnote could be formatted differently from the main 
text---though that would look quite silly. It may be that 1.6 won't 
allow such customization in footnotes. It probably shouldn't if it does.


Richard

Re: footnotes problem, .rtf import, view source on 1.5.3

[jf7]

Quoting rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

From my view I was trying to format a footnote and get rid of an   
extra blank line in the footnote footer region. So it didn't occur   
to me that justified would apply to that. But maybe it does.   
(paragraph formatting is otherwise defined in the class?) I think   
that even if justified is correct,  it was a little mis-leading   
-- perhaps just due to my ignorance. However the original text   
Apply Paragraph's Default Alignment by itself is accurate because  
 it would have implied to me that it might properly format a   
footnote -- which it does!



In principle, a footnote could be formatted differently from the main
text---though that would look quite silly. It may be that 1.6 won't
allow such customization in footnotes. It probably shouldn't if it does.

Richard


I'm not quite sure why you're mentioning customizing them. I'm happy  
with how it fixed them. If it continues to standardize them, then  
that'll be great.


jf

Re: footnotes problem, .rtf import, view source on 1.5.3

[rgheck]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Quoting rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

From my view I was trying to format a footnote and get rid of an  
extra blank line in the footnote footer region. So it didn't occur  
to me that justified would apply to that. But maybe it does.  
(paragraph formatting is otherwise defined in the class?) I think  
that even if justified is correct,  it was a little mis-leading  
-- perhaps just due to my ignorance. However the original text  
Apply Paragraph's Default Alignment by itself is accurate because 
 it would have implied to me that it might properly format a  
footnote -- which it does!



In principle, a footnote could be formatted differently from the main
text---though that would look quite silly. It may be that 1.6 won't
allow such customization in footnotes. It probably shouldn't if it does.


I'm not quite sure why you're mentioning customizing them. I'm happy 
with how it fixed them. If it continues to standardize them, then 
that'll be great.


What I meant was: Maybe LyX shouldn't have permitted the problem in the 
first place.


rh