[Mac-Access]: Iphone list

2015-06-07 Thread Mark Furness
What is the correct address for the Iphone list?
The one I have keeps on bouncing back to me.

Thank you for your help!

lMark


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Re: [Mac-Access]: Skype for Web (Beta) is now available to everyone in the US and UK

2015-06-06 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I'll give it a try, but first I'm gonna have to find someone who's willing 
to let me call 'em.  LOL!


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com

To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 12:42 PM
Subject: [Mac-Access]: Skype for Web (Beta) is now available to everyone in 
the US and UK



Link is below. I'm not going to be testing this as I'm going to be busy, but 
hopefuly someone can and will test for accessibility under the mac platform 
and see if it is accessible. This would be good if I were on antohr machine 
with out skype, or what not. Enjoy.



http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SkypeGarage/~3/Jac1eThzwLk/

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Re: [Mac-Access]: message from the list owner, please read

2015-06-06 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Huge sigh...

Don't remove me for now.  We'll see how things go, but I do expect going 
forward for things to hopefully run more smoothely.  Thank you for finally 
looking into this.  It's a shame that so many people had to get on you about 
this, before anything was done, but as long as you're at this point willing to 
step up and really truely try getting things back together, I'm willing to give 
things one, and one? only! final chance.

I'm sorry for being so hard on ya, but as a system server administrator myself, 
you can hopefully to some degree understand why I was so.  In your defense, 
Voiceover not reading those edit boxes could certainly be an issue, and if 
indeed it can add people multiple times, therefore sending out multiple e-mail 
copies, then boy oh boy!  That's a bug that really! needs to be addressed, 
like, yesterday!

As I said, I'll stay for now, but I genuinely trust this isn't going to 
hopefully happen again in the foreseeable future.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Gordon Smith 
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 10:36 AM
  Subject: [Mac-Access]: message from the list owner, please read


  Hello everybody


  I’d just like to give you an explanation as to why some of you have had 
difficulty unsubscribing from the group.  Firstly, please understand that this 
was in no way a deliberate act on my part.


  When I was configuring the list, VoiceOver did not reveal the refreshed edit 
boxes when I added your addresses.  Therefore, I thought that they hadn’t 
actually been added, so I added them again.  This happened twice before the 
boxes’ contents were displayed to me, and I thought that the job was done.


  However, unbeknown to me, the addresses were added three times over.  This is 
why you’ve had difficulty and in some cases have received multiple copies of 
the messages.


  Please accept my most sincere apologies for the inconvenience.  I am 
modifying the list as I speak, so that each member is only subscribed once.  I 
am also taking out those addresses whose owners have requested that I do so.


  Those who have written to me threatening reprisals, (and there have been 3 of 
those), please know that I am removing you as you requested.


  I acknowledge though that this shouldn’t have happened.  There should be 
error-trapping within the software to prevent it.  I am taking this up with the 
developers.  But I am also working urgently to address the issue.


  Those of you who do wish to remain on the list, please don’t worry if you get 
repeated welcome messages.  If you get a message asking whether you want to 
join or not, then that is at your discretion.


  I am also taking steps to restore the support address so that these issues 
can be separated once again from my own inbox.


  


  My compliments and kindest regards
  Gordon Smith:
  gor...@mac-access.net


  Accessibility  Information Technology Support Specialist.


  








Re: [Mac-Access]: Is anyone still around this list?

2015-06-06 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
You know, I never actually thought of that, but the first one of those is 
probably where it came from.  Who knows.  That isn't the point though.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com

To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Is anyone still around this list?


Just curious, what does the H stand for in Jesus H Christ?
Holy?
Hector?
Hubba hubba?

Sent from my IPhone


On Jun 4, 2015, at 10:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


O, Kay! o, kayy! O? Kayy!  I, get, the, point! 
You're here!  You're on the list!  Must everyone clutter my damn inbox 
just to write a two worded sentence, I'm here!  Hurray!  You're here!  Can 
you not take some courticy and write the individual off list who asked 
rather than clutterring up people's inboxes?  Jesus H Christ!  No offense 
whatsoever intended, but this is becoming incredibly irritating!


Chris.

- Original Message - From: wui chin Leong 
adrianleon...@icloud.com

To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Is anyone still around this list?



so am i too


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Re: [Mac-Access]: Is anyone still around this list?

2015-06-04 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
O, Kay! o, kayy! O? Kayy!  I, get, the, point! 
You're here!  You're on the list!  Must everyone clutter my damn inbox just 
to write a two worded sentence, I'm here!  Hurray!  You're here!  Can you 
not take some courticy and write the individual off list who asked rather 
than clutterring up people's inboxes?  Jesus H Christ!  No offense 
whatsoever intended, but this is becoming incredibly irritating!


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: wui chin Leong adrianleon...@icloud.com

To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Is anyone still around this list?



so am i too


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Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies Gentlemen, We Are Back!

2015-06-04 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
How do you have your e-mails set up on each, pop, or IMap?

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Juanita Martin 
  To: OS X  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 12:32 PM
  Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!


  I have just one email address.  The interesting thing is though, on my 
iPhone, I get three copies of each message from this list but on my Mac Air, I 
just get one copy.  Wonder why that is;


On Jun 3, 2015, at 11:48 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


I got to thinking about that whole thing with people getting multiple 
messages.  I'm definitely not, and it seems  there are some others who are not 
either.  Could it be that you are getting multiple because you're subscribed 
unknowingly under two different e-mail addresses or more?  Just a thought.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: matthew.dy...@icloud.com
  To: mac-access@mac-access.net
  Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 11:26 AM
  Subject: RE: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!


  Hi,

  Also, just a report that I am getting more than 1 copy of each  message.  
 Is there amnyone else here getting this.

  Matthew



  From: barbara jones [mailto:jone...@comcast.net] 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 7:13 AM
  To: mac-access@mac-access.net
  Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!

  This does not work. I did not receive any authentication message.
  Barbara

  On Jun 2, 2015, at 11:14 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:



hello

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Thank you.



My compliments and kindest regards
Gordon Smith:
gor...@mac-access.net

Accessibility  Information Technology Support Specialist.






On 24 May 2015, at 12:43, sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@icloud.com wrote:

Hi Gordon, 

I am writing this email to ask you to remove me from this list. 

If you could remove me as soon as possible it would be greatly 
appreciated. 

Best wishes, 

Sadam Ahmed 

Email: 

sadamahmed1...@icloud.com 

Sent from my iPhone. 

-- 



On 24 May 2015, at 7:38 pm, Jackie Brown 
thebrownspl...@btinternet.com wrote:

  Hello Gordon

  Could I ask you to remove me from your groups please as I have enough 
Email traffic to be getting on with.  Since your server recovery, I am now 
receiving messages from you that I don't want to be subscribed to.

  Many thanks, and good luck.


  Kind Regards,

  Jackie Brown
  Emails: thebrownspl...@btinternet.com
  jackieannbrow...@gmail.com
  jac...@thebrownsplace.info
  Check out my website: www.thebrownsplace.info
  Read my EyeWrite blog: www.thebrownsplace.info/?page_id=136
  Follow me on Twitter: @thebrownsplace
  Skype: thejackmate

  -Original Message-
  From: Gordon Smith [mailto:gor...@mac-access.net] 
  Sent: 24 May 2015 10:27
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
  Subject: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!

  Good Sunday to all

  We should now be back in business as a group, although I have some 
tweaking still to do.  But I hope you’re all well, and receive our call.

  Please don’t send “I am here’, or “I see you” to the group.  We just 
want life to resume from where it left off.

  Let’s just say we’ve had a spectacular server crash from which we 
couldn’t recover.  So we were forced to make a transition, ready or not!

  Kindest regards

  Gordon










Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies Gentlemen, We Are Back!

2015-06-03 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Doesn't surprise me.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Marianne Robbins 
  To: mac-access@mac-access.net 
  Cc: Hewitt Robbins Marianne 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 1:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!


  I used this link, but it bounced as undeliverable




On Jun 3, 2015, at 10:38 AM, barbara jones jone...@comcast.net wrote:


Thanks christ. I am trying that link.
Barbara


On Jun 3, 2015, at 7:20 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


  Nor did I.

  Gordon did say though, if it doesn't work, let him know, so let's all 
bombard him and lettem know.  I'm normally not that much of an ass, but this is 
ridiculous.

  gor...@mac-access.net

  Chris.

- Original Message -
From: barbara jones
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 7:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!


This does not work. I did not receive any authentication message.
Barbara


On Jun 2, 2015, at 11:14 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:


  hello


  Please just take a moment to modify or cancel your subscription; we 
added you all in bulk as you expressed a wish to remain part of the groups, or 
at the very least, you did not express a wish not to be part of the group.


  To cancel your membership, please write to:
  mac-access-le...@mac-access.net
  that will cause an authentication message to be sent to you.  Please 
just respond to is as indicated in the message and you’re done.


  Thank you.


  


  My compliments and kindest regards
  Gordon Smith:
  gor...@mac-access.net


  Accessibility  Information Technology Support Specialist.


  







  On 24 May 2015, at 12:43, sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@icloud.com 
wrote:


  Hi Gordon, 


  I am writing this email to ask you to remove me from this list. 


  If you could remove me as soon as possible it would be greatly 
appreciated. 


  Best wishes, 


  Sadam Ahmed 


  Email: 


  sadamahmed1...@icloud.com 


  Sent from my iPhone. 


  -- 





  On 24 May 2015, at 7:38 pm, Jackie Brown 
thebrownspl...@btinternet.com wrote:


Hello Gordon

Could I ask you to remove me from your groups please as I have 
enough Email traffic to be getting on with.  Since your server recovery, I am 
now receiving messages from you that I don't want to be subscribed to.

Many thanks, and good luck.


Kind Regards,

Jackie Brown
Emails: thebrownspl...@btinternet.com
jackieannbrow...@gmail.com
jac...@thebrownsplace.info
Check out my website: www.thebrownsplace.info
Read my EyeWrite blog: www.thebrownsplace.info/?page_id=136
Follow me on Twitter: @thebrownsplace
Skype: thejackmate

-Original Message-
From: Gordon Smith [mailto:gor...@mac-access.net] 
Sent: 24 May 2015 10:27
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!

Good Sunday to all

We should now be back in business as a group, although I have some 
tweaking still to do.  But I hope you’re all well, and receive our call.

Please don’t send “I am here’, or “I see you” to the group.  We 
just want life to resume from where it left off.

Let’s just say we’ve had a spectacular server crash from which we 
couldn’t recover.  So we were forced to make a transition, ready or not!

Kindest regards

Gordon
















Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies Gentlemen, We Are Back!

2015-06-03 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Nor did I.

Gordon did say though, if it doesn't work, let him know, so let's all bombard 
him and lettem know.  I'm normally not that much of an ass, but this is 
ridiculous.

gor...@mac-access.net

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: barbara jones 
  To: mac-access@mac-access.net 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 7:12 AM
  Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!


  This does not work. I did not receive any authentication message.
  Barbara


  On Jun 2, 2015, at 11:14 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:


hello


Please just take a moment to modify or cancel your subscription; we added 
you all in bulk as you expressed a wish to remain part of the groups, or at the 
very least, you did not express a wish not to be part of the group.


To cancel your membership, please write to:
mac-access-le...@mac-access.net
that will cause an authentication message to be sent to you.  Please just 
respond to is as indicated in the message and you’re done.


Thank you.





My compliments and kindest regards
Gordon Smith:
gor...@mac-access.net


Accessibility  Information Technology Support Specialist.










On 24 May 2015, at 12:43, sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@icloud.com wrote:


Hi Gordon, 


I am writing this email to ask you to remove me from this list. 


If you could remove me as soon as possible it would be greatly appreciated. 


Best wishes, 


Sadam Ahmed 


Email: 


sadamahmed1...@icloud.com 


Sent from my iPhone. 


-- 





On 24 May 2015, at 7:38 pm, Jackie Brown thebrownspl...@btinternet.com 
wrote:


  Hello Gordon

  Could I ask you to remove me from your groups please as I have enough 
Email traffic to be getting on with.  Since your server recovery, I am now 
receiving messages from you that I don't want to be subscribed to.

  Many thanks, and good luck.


  Kind Regards,

  Jackie Brown
  Emails: thebrownspl...@btinternet.com
  jackieannbrow...@gmail.com
  jac...@thebrownsplace.info
  Check out my website: www.thebrownsplace.info
  Read my EyeWrite blog: www.thebrownsplace.info/?page_id=136
  Follow me on Twitter: @thebrownsplace
  Skype: thejackmate

  -Original Message-
  From: Gordon Smith [mailto:gor...@mac-access.net] 
  Sent: 24 May 2015 10:27
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
  Subject: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!

  Good Sunday to all

  We should now be back in business as a group, although I have some 
tweaking still to do.  But I hope you’re all well, and receive our call.

  Please don’t send “I am here’, or “I see you” to the group.  We just want 
life to resume from where it left off.

  Let’s just say we’ve had a spectacular server crash from which we 
couldn’t recover.  So we were forced to make a transition, ready or not!

  Kindest regards

  Gordon










Re: [Mac-Access]: Is anyone still around this list?

2015-06-03 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Gordon finally came back, but he basically just did his usual, it's not my 
problem, here's how to unsubscribe, don't lookat me though if you want off 
the list dance.


I'd say the list is probably actually about the same membership, 
considerring most people were unsuccessful at getting removed.  Even the 
instructions Gordon gave the other day didn't seem to work for me.  I'd 
seriously considerred leaving, which then I changed my mind, however, that 
being said, like many, I tried to send an unsubscribe request to the address 
Gordon provided about a day ago, and even it! bounced.  Anyway, frankly, if 
it's not mac related, then I'm done with the unsubscribe me bullshit. 
Gordon and Lynn aren't gonna listen, so there's really not much point in me 
continuing to try to convince them.  It's unfortunate, but what the heck am 
I gonna do!  I can't stick a gun to their heads and say run this list more 
smoothely.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Robert Hill molliesda...@comcast.net

To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 5:44 AM
Subject: [Mac-Access]: Is anyone still around this list?



Hi all,

With all the furor of the past while, I temporarily unsubscribed from the 
list.


I thought I'd subscribe again, and see what's happening here.

Just wondering who's still left here.

Bob Hill


Sent from Bob's Braille Sense U2


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Re: [Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-Access)': Is anyone still around this list?

2015-06-03 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Please guys, for the sake of my sanity and others, reply to Robert off list, 
if you're still on the list wishing to respond.  If everyone writes and says 
I'm still on the list, it's gonna be a disaster!


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Robert Hill molliesda...@comcast.net

To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 6:21 AM
Subject: [Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-Access)': Is anyone still around this list?



Hi Margaret,

Thanks for the reply.
At least I know I'm not typing to myself.

Bob


- Original Message -
From: Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com
To:  mac-access@mac-access.net
CC:
Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 5:57 am
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access)': Is anyone still around this list?




I'm still on the list.

Margaret


Sent from my iPhone

On 3 Jun 2015, at 7:44 pm, Robert Hill molliesda...@comcast.net wrote:

Hi all,

With all the furor of the past while, I temporarily unsubscribed from the 
list.


I thought I'd subscribe again, and see what's happening here.

Just wondering who's still left here.

Bob Hill


Sent from Bob's Braille Sense U2


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responsible should things go amiss when, for example, you change E-Mail 
addresses.





Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies Gentlemen, We Are Back!

2015-06-03 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I got to thinking about that whole thing with people getting multiple messages. 
 I'm definitely not, and it seems  there are some others who are not either.  
Could it be that you are getting multiple because you're subscribed unknowingly 
under two different e-mail addresses or more?  Just a thought.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: matthew.dy...@icloud.com 
  To: mac-access@mac-access.net 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 11:26 AM
  Subject: RE: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!


  Hi,

   

  Also, just a report that I am getting more than 1 copy of each  message.   Is 
there amnyone else here getting this.

   

  Matthew

   

   

   

  From: barbara jones [mailto:jone...@comcast.net] 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 7:13 AM
  To: mac-access@mac-access.net
  Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!

   

  This does not work. I did not receive any authentication message.

  Barbara

   

  On Jun 2, 2015, at 11:14 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:





hello

 

Please just take a moment to modify or cancel your subscription; we added 
you all in bulk as you expressed a wish to remain part of the groups, or at the 
very least, you did not express a wish not to be part of the group.

 

To cancel your membership, please write to:

mac-access-le...@mac-access.net

that will cause an authentication message to be sent to you.  Please just 
respond to is as indicated in the message and you're done.

 

Thank you.

 



 

My compliments and kindest regards

Gordon Smith:

gor...@mac-access.net

 

Accessibility  Information Technology Support Specialist.

 



 

 

 

On 24 May 2015, at 12:43, sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@icloud.com wrote:

 

Hi Gordon, 

 

I am writing this email to ask you to remove me from this list. 

 

If you could remove me as soon as possible it would be greatly appreciated. 

 

Best wishes, 

 

Sadam Ahmed 

 

Email: 

 

sadamahmed1...@icloud.com 

 

Sent from my iPhone. 

 

-- 

 

 


On 24 May 2015, at 7:38 pm, Jackie Brown thebrownspl...@btinternet.com 
wrote:

  Hello Gordon

  Could I ask you to remove me from your groups please as I have enough 
Email traffic to be getting on with.  Since your server recovery, I am now 
receiving messages from you that I don't want to be subscribed to.

  Many thanks, and good luck.


  Kind Regards,

  Jackie Brown
  Emails: thebrownspl...@btinternet.com
  jackieannbrow...@gmail.com
  jac...@thebrownsplace.info
  Check out my website: www.thebrownsplace.info
  Read my EyeWrite blog: www.thebrownsplace.info/?page_id=136
  Follow me on Twitter: @thebrownsplace
  Skype: thejackmate

  -Original Message-
  From: Gordon Smith [mailto:gor...@mac-access.net] 
  Sent: 24 May 2015 10:27
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
  Subject: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!

  Good Sunday to all

  We should now be back in business as a group, although I have some 
tweaking still to do.  But I hope you're all well, and receive our call.

  Please don't send I am here', or I see you to the group.  We just want 
life to resume from where it left off.

  Let's just say we've had a spectacular server crash from which we 
couldn't recover.  So we were forced to make a transition, ready or not!

  Kindest regards

  Gordon





 

   


Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies Gentlemen, We Are Back!

2015-06-02 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
That would be awesome, if that method worked, but over here at least, it 
doesn't seem to be.  I wasn't going to leave, but I wanted to at least see if I 
got the confirmation message, which then I was simply going to ignore.  That 
message never came.  In fact, the result was, my initial e-mail requesting to 
leave bounced, as usual.  What else is new.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Gordon Smith 
  To: mac-access@mac-access.net 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 11:14 AM
  Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!


  hello


  Please just take a moment to modify or cancel your subscription; we added you 
all in bulk as you expressed a wish to remain part of the groups, or at the 
very least, you did not express a wish not to be part of the group.


  To cancel your membership, please write to:
  mac-access-le...@mac-access.net
  that will cause an authentication message to be sent to you.  Please just 
respond to is as indicated in the message and you’re done.


  Thank you.


  


  My compliments and kindest regards
  Gordon Smith:
  gor...@mac-access.net


  Accessibility  Information Technology Support Specialist.


  







  On 24 May 2015, at 12:43, sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@icloud.com wrote:


  Hi Gordon, 


  I am writing this email to ask you to remove me from this list. 


  If you could remove me as soon as possible it would be greatly appreciated. 


  Best wishes, 


  Sadam Ahmed 


  Email: 


  sadamahmed1...@icloud.com 


  Sent from my iPhone. 


  -- 





  On 24 May 2015, at 7:38 pm, Jackie Brown thebrownspl...@btinternet.com 
wrote:


Hello Gordon

Could I ask you to remove me from your groups please as I have enough Email 
traffic to be getting on with.  Since your server recovery, I am now receiving 
messages from you that I don't want to be subscribed to.

Many thanks, and good luck.


Kind Regards,

Jackie Brown
Emails: thebrownspl...@btinternet.com
jackieannbrow...@gmail.com
jac...@thebrownsplace.info
Check out my website: www.thebrownsplace.info
Read my EyeWrite blog: www.thebrownsplace.info/?page_id=136
Follow me on Twitter: @thebrownsplace
Skype: thejackmate

-Original Message-
From: Gordon Smith [mailto:gor...@mac-access.net] 
Sent: 24 May 2015 10:27
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!

Good Sunday to all

We should now be back in business as a group, although I have some tweaking 
still to do.  But I hope you’re all well, and receive our call.

Please don’t send “I am here’, or “I see you” to the group.  We just want 
life to resume from where it left off.

Let’s just say we’ve had a spectacular server crash from which we couldn’t 
recover.  So we were forced to make a transition, ready or not!

Kindest regards

Gordon








Re: [Mac-Access]: FW: DLIST: Welcome to the mac-access@mac-access.net list.

2015-06-02 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
What about www.mac-access.net going to your mail server page and not the 
maihn home page?


And, what ever happened to supp...@mac-access.net

Finally, why earlier when you initially sey said a week or so ago that you 
all were back, why didn't you provide the unsubscribe info then right up 
front?  Mostly, why didn't you add that address to the footers of all 
messages like you all had done before?


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net

To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: FW: DLIST: Welcome to the 
mac-access@mac-access.net list.



Hello David

If, as it seems there may be, there is a problem with the server, can I 
request that people please use gor...@mac-access.net, and let me know that 
they wish to be removed.  If the command isn’t working, (and I shall test it 
out), then clearly something is set wrong.  However, I’d appreciate it if 
people would please keep a civil tongue in their head.  I’d also appreciate 
people keeping in mind that they expressed a wish to be ported over and, as 
a result, they were ported over.


If people have now changed their minds, that’s fine.  But don’t start 
yelling and screaming at me.  I’m much more likely to try and help somebody 
who is civl and polite, than somebody who goes off the deep end.  I’ve had a 
few like that today and, if I get any more, somebody’s going to get both 
barrels!


As for you, David, if you now wish to be unsubscribed, if you tried to 
remove yourself and it didn’t work, please do me the courtesy of contacting 
me off list.  Same goes for anybody else.  And I will do what I can to help.


However, finally, keep in mind that the command set has changed with the 
introduction of a ew server.  So, if you wish to leave, please send a blank 
message to:


mac-access-le...@mac-access.net
that should, and I use the word guardedly, should, do the trick.  I shall 
test it now.




My compliments and kindest regards
Gordon Smith:
gor...@mac-access.net

Accessibility  Information Technology Support Specialist.






On 27 May 2015, at 11:42, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote:

I have again followed these instruction completely as laid out,   and I am
getting no response from the server telling me that I am unsubscribed.
If this message appears it has again not worked.

David Griffith

-Original Message-
From: Robert Hill [mailto:molliesda...@comcast.net]
Sent: 27 May 2015 10:40
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: [Mac-Access]: FW: DLIST: Welcome to the mac-access@mac-access.net
list.

Hi all,

I'm forwarding the help commands list I received yesterday after poking
around.

I don't know if it will be helpful or not, but here it is.


Bob


- Forwarded Message -
From:  mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net
To:  molliesda...@comcast.net
CC:
Date: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 11:59 am
Subject: DLIST: Welcome to the mac-access@mac-access.net list.




This email message gives you important information about using
this list - please save it for future reference.

There are two parts to this file the first short part is on how
to SEND MAIL to the list, the second is on how to send COMMANDS
to the list.  If you lose this file then you can get the same
information again by sending a HELP command to the list manager
as is shown below.


SENDING MAIL TO THE LIST


To send a message to all mac-access@mac-access.net list members, use a

message

with the following form:

--
  From: Peter Rabbit pe...@netwin.co.nz
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
   Subject: PROBLEM WITH LOADING PRODUCT

   Can anybody help me unzip my file?
--


===
===

SENDING COMMANDS TO THE LIST



All of the following sections deal with how to send a command to
the list.  You have already done this if you subscribed to the
list yourself.

Commands are written in the BODY of a normal email message. The
email message is then sent to the list manager's special email
address:
  mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net

The list manager controls who belongs to the list and what options
you as a subscriber have set.  The list manager has no ego so
please feel free to send messages whenever you l... :com)



Leaving the list (unsubscribing)


To stop receiving messages from the mac-access@mac-access.net list you

will

need to send a message to the list manager.  For example:

--
  From: Peter Rabbit pe...@netwin.co.nz
To: mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net
   Subject: not needed

   unsubscribe

Re: [Mac-Access]: Re: Stop The Tests, Please

2015-06-01 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Lynn, if the method has changed, then for God sake, can you please tell us 
how to do it?  I'm sorry for Gordon's situation, and I very genuinely hope 
he's OK, but this has been going on before Friday.  Actually since last 
Tuesday or so.  Have you not been seeing all the people who want to leave? 
I'm not asking you to remove me nor them, as you got too much on your plate 
for that now, but mercy gracious! is it that much work to just tell us how 
to do it ourselves since it's obviously changed?  It's not even at the 
bottom of the footers.


Lynne, I have lots of respect for you and Gordon, and I've taken my concerns 
off list with you all before, but now I'm going public, as frankly, this is 
becoming ridiculous!  You're gonna hate me for saying this, and embarrassing 
you on list, but frankly at this point, much as I hate doing this, and this 
isn't my normal nature of personality, I must be blunt to say, if you can't 
manage a list, and keep people in the loop, then don't!  Bottom line!  I'm 
sorry to be so blunt, but I'm getting absolutely sick of this!  I don't hate 
you, nor Gordon, don't even? go there! but, come on, who're you kidding. 
You work all day, Gordon is in the hospital, plus, there are other things 
you told me about off list confidentially that I won't go into on list, but 
lookit.  The point is, I know this list is you all's baby.  Especially 
Gordon's, but really.  Do you all have the time to keep running this list on 
your own?  I've said time after time again I'd help you all with admin tasks 
if you needed me to.  Others too have agreed to help take some the load off 
you all, and frankly, the offer still stands as far as I'm concerned, but 
look.  Family comes before e-mail lists.  You gotta set your priorities.  I 
know you don't like to hear this, but you honestly need to!  Again, I'm not 
dismissing that Gordon is hurt, and again, for that, I'm so so sorry.  I 
wish there was something on that front I physically could do, so don't think 
I'm putting that concern aside.  I'm not.  But there is no shame in cutting 
back, asking for help, or saying you know, this just isn't working.


Lynn whether I'm right or not.  Whether I'm out of line sending this or not, 
put that aside just for one second.  Let's look at the facts.  This last few 
weeks, how many have written the list, uptight in your word or not, leaving 
out opinions here from you, Gordon, or others for that mind, just on a 
technical level, how many have asked to leave the list.  Damn! I can think 
of at least! minimum! 50 or 60.  Compared to all the members you all have, 
that might seem insignificant, but trust me, that's a ton! for one and a 
half weeks nearly.  I know one thing, if the list I ran started having 
members doing that, I'd be slamming on the breaks so hard, you'd not know 
what hitcha!  I'd be deathly! concerned to find out what in the sam hill! 
was causing everyone to leave.  Then, if I couldn't deal with it,  dammit, 
I'd find someone who could.  Just know, you all don't have to do this alone. 
I'm still offerring for you all to get ahold of me off list, if you want me 
to help you all in any way with the list until things get back to normal 
around there, but A, you gotta be willing to speak up, as I can't read your 
mind.  And B, being I've offered before, this is my final offerring.  Past 
this point, if turned down, I won't be offerring again.  Case closed.


You knwo where to find me.

clgillan...@gmail.com

Again, none of this is meant in any! bad malice, but really Lynn, seriously! 
Think about it.  OK, I mean really? really, think about it!


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net

To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 2:23 PM
Subject: [Mac-Access]: Re: Stop The Tests, Please


Hello Angela, Christopher and all

This is Lynne, using the only address we currently have active which just 
happens to be Gordon’s.


Please don’t get uptight about this, all. The method of joining/leaving the 
group has changed anyway. When he’s up and about again, Gordon will update 
the mailing list section on our website. He’s currently hospitalised due to 
a road accident on Friday.


Meanwhile, if you have headers visible,  I suggest you examine the contents 
of messages posted to the group. Just a little self-help here would go a 
long way. :)


If you don’t, unfortunately I can’t help you. When he comes home I will make 
sure that Gordon does the update quickly as he can.


Warmest regards

Lynne





Re: [Mac-Access]: test

2015-05-27 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Nope?

Sorry to be the barer of bad news.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 4:18 AM
Subject: [Mac-Access]: test


checking to see if I have unsubscribed. checking to see if I have a ride 
perhaps somebody could respond please.







Re: [Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-Access)': I would like to un subscribed from this list

2015-05-27 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Gotcha.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com

To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 3:52 AM
Subject: RE: [Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-Access)': I would like to un subscribed 
from this list




It has not worked.

I have tried this method and the other address posted twice but I am still
here.

David Griffith

-Original Message-
From: Christopher-Mark Gilland [mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com]
Sent: 27 May 2015 01:22
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-Access)': I would like to un 
subscribed

from this list

That's exactly what I suggested people do all along!

Did it not work, or did people just simply not listen to me when I tried
helping!

Makes ya wonder.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Robert Hill molliesda...@comcast.net

To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 12:13 PM
Subject: [Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-Access)': I would like to un subscribed 
from


this list



Hello everyone,

Well, maybe things are getting more toward normal or something, but I was
able to use the following procedure to unsubscribe, and resubscribe this
morning.

Send an email message as follows:

mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net

Leave the subject blank.

In the message body put the word unsubscribe (without the quotation
marks)

That should get you unsubscribed.

If you want a list of commands that you can use send an email to the 
above



address, and in the body of the message put help without the quotes.

Bob Hill

which
- Original Message -
From: jazzyjennifer jwens2...@gmail.com
To:  mac-access@mac-access.net
CC:
Date: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 11:59 am
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access)': I would like to un subscribed from this list




yeah usely there is links with the list, at the end of the email like it
will say how to un subscribe, then there will be an email for un
subscribeing. and all them email links are missing at the end of each
messege of tis group.

On 5/26/2015 11:09 AM, David Griffith wrote:
Unfortunately it appears, fairly bizarrely, that nobody is listening or
watching the list.
Perhaps somebody who knows Gordon personally can get in touch with him,
or at least Lynne to try and get the list pulled until it can be
resurrected in proper form with only those who want to be on the list
participating.
in the meantime there is clearly no point in people adding to list
traffic with unsubscribe request.

David Griffith

-Original Message-
From: Danny Mathis [mailto:danny.mat...@gmail.com]
Sent: 26 May 2015 15:09
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access)': i would like to un subscribed from this list

I to want unsubscribed from this list.  Both of my macs are sold.  I
do not nor want an IPCbi'hone ever.  So please remove me from this list.
yes, I am an android user team android all the way.

On 5/26/15, jazzyjennifer jwens2...@gmail.com wrote:

can someone please un subscribe me from this list. i would do it. but
there is no links at the bottom of emails of links on this email list.

-
my skype is jwens1000 and when adding me to skype, please mention where
you
found me at, other wize you will not be added.

twidder is jwens1000

and for those of you dice world players out there my dice world is
jazzyjen.
i play everything except ballot.








-
my skype is jwens1000 and when adding me to skype, please mention where
you found me at, other wize you will not be added.

twidder is jwens1000

and for those of you dice world players out there my dice world is
jazzyjen.
i play everything except ballot.





Sent from Bob's Braille Sense U2











Re: [Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-Access)': [Mac-Access)': test

2015-05-27 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I am not receiving duplicate messages, however that being said, I'm 
undecided at this point if I want to leave.  I will however say though 
undecided, I'm definitely giving unsubscription a serious consideration.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Robert Hill molliesda...@comcast.net

To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 5:11 AM
Subject: [Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-Access)': [Mac-Access)': test



That sure is a puzzle, about why it doesn't work for everyone.
It seems like it's easier to subscribe than unsubscribe for some reason.

Bob


- Original Message -
From: Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com
To:  mac-access@mac-access.net
CC:
Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 4:40 am
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access)': Re: [Mac-Access)': test




Thanks Bob I do agree ininsmile*.  I had tested your unsubscribe 
suggestion
though the reality is that I wish to retain my membership.  Like others 
it
did not work for me. Thankfully I do not have the problems others are 
having

of multiple copies of each mail, just the one.

Eleanor
- Original Message - 
From: Robert Hill molliesda...@comcast.net

To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 9:30 AM
Subject: [Mac-Access)': Re: [Mac-Access)': test


Hi Eleanor,

Your email arrived just fine here.
Seems like we've gone from deluge to drought regarding messages.

Bob Hill


- Original Message -
From: Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com
To:  mac-access@mac-access.net
CC:
Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 4:18 am
Subject: [Mac-Access)': test




checking to see if I have unsubscribed. checking to see if I have a ride
perhaps somebody could respond please.






Sent from Bob's Braille Sense U2








Sent from Bob's Braille Sense U2






Re: [Mac-Access]: test

2015-05-27 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Angela,

I've written you time and time and time again with some information, 
however, you've not responded, and each time I try reaching out to help you, 
you seem to be ignoring my posts.  I want to help, but I can't, if you're 
not going to let me.


Same goes to Debby who I see from my read request receipt deleted my message 
apparently without even reading it.  I wasn't writing you guys to complain. 
I was writing you to offer some help.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Angela Delicata angeladelic...@email.it

To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 5:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: test



still this list, I'm so tired!


Il 27/05/2015 10:18, Eleanor Martha Burke ha scritto:
checking to see if I have unsubscribed. checking to see if I have a ride 
perhaps somebody could respond please.








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Re: [Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-Access)': I would like to un subscribed from this list

2015-05-27 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

You're on the Eyes-Free list?  Oh, poor you!  I'm sorry!

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Danny Mathis danny.mat...@gmail.com

To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-Access)': I would like to un subscribed 
from this list




I have sent an unsubscribe email to the other email address at the
bottom of this list's email.  I am still here and this list fills my
Gmail inbox still.  Not that I mind mac related stuff but I also
belong to the eyes-free list which hammers my inbox enough.

On 5/27/15, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote:

It has not worked.

I have tried this method and the other address posted twice but I am 
still

here.

David Griffith

-Original Message-
From: Christopher-Mark Gilland [mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com]
Sent: 27 May 2015 01:22
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-Access)': I would like to un 
subscribed

from this list

That's exactly what I suggested people do all along!

Did it not work, or did people just simply not listen to me when I tried
helping!

Makes ya wonder.

Chris.

- Original Message -
From: Robert Hill molliesda...@comcast.net
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 12:13 PM
Subject: [Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-Access)': I would like to un subscribed
from

this list



Hello everyone,

Well, maybe things are getting more toward normal or something, but I 
was


able to use the following procedure to unsubscribe, and resubscribe this
morning.

Send an email message as follows:

mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net

Leave the subject blank.

In the message body put the word unsubscribe (without the quotation
marks)

That should get you unsubscribed.

If you want a list of commands that you can use send an email to the
above



address, and in the body of the message put help without the quotes.

Bob Hill

which
- Original Message -
From: jazzyjennifer jwens2...@gmail.com
To:  mac-access@mac-access.net
CC:
Date: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 11:59 am
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access)': I would like to un subscribed from this list




yeah usely there is links with the list, at the end of the email like 
it

will say how to un subscribe, then there will be an email for un
subscribeing. and all them email links are missing at the end of each
messege of tis group.

On 5/26/2015 11:09 AM, David Griffith wrote:
Unfortunately it appears, fairly bizarrely, that nobody is listening or
watching the list.
Perhaps somebody who knows Gordon personally can get in touch with him,
or at least Lynne to try and get the list pulled until it can be
resurrected in proper form with only those who want to be on the list
participating.
in the meantime there is clearly no point in people adding to list
traffic with unsubscribe request.

David Griffith

-Original Message-
From: Danny Mathis [mailto:danny.mat...@gmail.com]
Sent: 26 May 2015 15:09
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access)': i would like to un subscribed from this 
list


I to want unsubscribed from this list.  Both of my macs are sold.  I
do not nor want an IPCbi'hone ever.  So please remove me from this 
list.

yes, I am an android user team android all the way.

On 5/26/15, jazzyjennifer jwens2...@gmail.com wrote:

can someone please un subscribe me from this list. i would do it. but
there is no links at the bottom of emails of links on this email list.

-
my skype is jwens1000 and when adding me to skype, please mention 
where


you
found me at, other wize you will not be added.

twidder is jwens1000

and for those of you dice world players out there my dice world is
jazzyjen.
i play everything except ballot.








-
my skype is jwens1000 and when adding me to skype, please mention where
you found me at, other wize you will not be added.

twidder is jwens1000

and for those of you dice world players out there my dice world is
jazzyjen.
i play everything except ballot.





Sent from Bob's Braille Sense U2













Re: [Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-Access)': I would like to un subscribed from this list

2015-05-26 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

That's exactly what I suggested people do all along!

Did it not work, or did people just simply not listen to me when I tried 
helping!


Makes ya wonder.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Robert Hill molliesda...@comcast.net

To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 12:13 PM
Subject: [Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-Access)': I would like to un subscribed from 
this list




Hello everyone,

Well, maybe things are getting more toward normal or something, but I was 
able to use the following procedure to unsubscribe, and resubscribe this 
morning.


Send an email message as follows:

mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net

Leave the subject blank.

In the message body put the word unsubscribe (without the quotation 
marks)


That should get you unsubscribed.

If you want a list of commands that you can use send an email to the above 
address, and in the body of the message put help without the quotes.


Bob Hill

which
- Original Message -
From: jazzyjennifer jwens2...@gmail.com
To:  mac-access@mac-access.net
CC:
Date: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 11:59 am
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access)': I would like to un subscribed from this list




yeah usely there is links with the list, at the end of the email like it
will say how to un subscribe, then there will be an email for un
subscribeing. and all them email links are missing at the end of each
messege of tis group.

On 5/26/2015 11:09 AM, David Griffith wrote:
Unfortunately it appears, fairly bizarrely, that nobody is listening or 
watching the list.
Perhaps somebody who knows Gordon personally can get in touch with him, 
or at least Lynne to try and get the list pulled until it can be 
resurrected in proper form with only those who want to be on the list 
participating.
in the meantime there is clearly no point in people adding to list 
traffic with unsubscribe request.


David Griffith

-Original Message-
From: Danny Mathis [mailto:danny.mat...@gmail.com]
Sent: 26 May 2015 15:09
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access)': i would like to un subscribed from this list

I to want unsubscribed from this list.  Both of my macs are sold.  I
do not nor want an IPCbi'hone ever.  So please remove me from this list.
yes, I am an android user team android all the way.

On 5/26/15, jazzyjennifer jwens2...@gmail.com wrote:

can someone please un subscribe me from this list. i would do it. but
there is no links at the bottom of emails of links on this email list.

-
my skype is jwens1000 and when adding me to skype, please mention where 
you

found me at, other wize you will not be added.

twidder is jwens1000

and for those of you dice world players out there my dice world is
jazzyjen.
i play everything except ballot.








-
my skype is jwens1000 and when adding me to skype, please mention where 
you found me at, other wize you will not be added.


twidder is jwens1000

and for those of you dice world players out there my dice world is 
jazzyjen.

i play everything except ballot.





Sent from Bob's Braille Sense U2






Re: [Mac-Access]: i would like to un subscribed from this list

2015-05-26 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Wut?  What're you using then, if not an IPhone?  An Android device?  If so, 
way! cool!


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Danny Mathis danny.mat...@gmail.com

To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: i would like to un subscribed from this list



I to want unsubscribed from this list.  Both of my macs are sold.  I
do not nor want an IPhone ever.  So please remove me from this list.
yes, I am an android user team android all the way.

On 5/26/15, jazzyjennifer jwens2...@gmail.com wrote:

can someone please un subscribe me from this list. i would do it. but
there is no links at the bottom of emails of links on this email list.

--
my skype is jwens1000 and when adding me to skype, please mention where 
you

found me at, other wize you will not be added.

twidder is jwens1000

and for those of you dice world players out there my dice world is
jazzyjen.
i play everything except ballot.










Re: [Mac-Access]: enough!

2015-05-25 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I saw them on Skype but as soon as I called, the call was immediately 
rejected.  Weird, too, considerring that their status wasn't set to away nor 
busy.  It said flat out, online.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Roger Firman roger.fir...@btinternet.com

To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 10:32 AM
Subject: RE: [Mac-Access]: enough!


Dear David and List members,

I've tried to make contact with those responsible for this list but any 
email addresses I have are being rejected.


I can't explain what is going on, however, if anyone knows how to make 
contact then that would be very helpful as it is possible they are unaware 
of what is happening.


Best wishes,

Roger.

-Original Message-
From: David Griffith [mailto:d.griff...@btinternet.com]
Sent: 25 May 2015 15:21
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: RE: [Mac-Access]: enough!

I can understand the frustration.

I have been trying also to unsubscribe using the recommended email address 
without success.


I would suggest that the administrator of this list needs to take it down 
completely until things work properly.


David Griffith
David Griffith

-Original Message-
From: Eileen [mailto:eileen.misr...@gmail.com]
Sent: 25 May 2015 15:14
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: enough!

Okay!!! Now, does foul language have to come into play? There's no room for 
that. I'm just going through all the numerous email traffic in my email 
account and Ann Roberts gave a corrected email address that will take you 
off list. And another thing, you try running a list serve when working 
full-time. I don't see you volunteering. Maybe I'm one of the lucky ones 
that only to receive these list postings once. Maybe it's you that didn't 
follow the monitors instructions from the get go when he needed to migrate 
to a new server and start from stratch. It's folks like you that puts a bad 
taste in someone elses mouth that values this list serve.


Good day and good riddens to you.


Sent from my iPhone

On May 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@icloud.com wrote:



Well said.

Even when the list was active I personally did not find it very helpful at 
all.



But this is getting fucking ridiculous.

I have tried everything and I can't seem to unsubscribe.

Receiving. Multiple. Emails. Is no fun at all!

Frankly you should be ashamed of yourself Mr Gordon.

Blatantly spamming people's email addresses with this nonsense.

Not respecting or listening to people's requests to be removed from this 
stupid list.


Messages bouncing when I ask to be removed.

A horrendous web interface.

To be honest there are far better alternatives available to Mac-access.

For the last time please remove me from this sorry excuse for a list.


Sadam Ahmed


Sent from my iPhone

--



On 25 May 2015, at 3:22 pm, Jay Rufo jayr...@verizon.net wrote:



Administrator,
just because you decided to start this list again is no excuse to take all
the email addresses you had and suddenly start to send email's/start the
list again. Sending people an email stating the list was available would
have been sufficient. Should this have happened then folks that were willing
could have signed up again. Secondarily, you obviously have no idea how to
conduct a list hence the multiple repeated emails. Shouldn't you have tested
this? Are you insane? Good god.

I enjoy the fact you want to have a list and share knowledge. We all need
that. I don't clap my hands in terms of how you went about it. You strike me
as someone who just got his Nintendo back!

That said, I wish you well with this list but please take me off it
promptly. Since this list has been on hiatus, I've figured out the apple
operating system to my satisfaction.


Best,

Jay












Re: [Mac-Access]: enough!

2015-05-25 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I definitely agree 150% that the language is uncalled for!  That said however, 
I feel his frustration.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Eileen 
  To: mac-access@mac-access.net 
  Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 10:14 AM
  Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: enough!


  Okay!!! Now, does foul language have to come into play? There's no room for 
that. I'm just going through all the numerous email traffic in my email account 
and Ann Roberts gave a corrected email address that will take you off list. And 
another thing, you try running a list serve when working full-time. I don't see 
you volunteering. Maybe I'm one of the lucky ones that only to receive these 
list postings once. Maybe it's you that didn't follow the monitors instructions 
from the get go when he needed to migrate to a new server and start from 
stratch. It's folks like you that puts a bad taste in someone elses mouth that 
values this list serve.


  Good day and good riddens to you.


  Sent from my iPhone

  On May 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@icloud.com wrote:


Well said. 


Even when the list was active I personally did not find it very helpful at 
all. 


But this is getting fucking ridiculous. 


I have tried everything and I can't seem to unsubscribe. 


Receiving. Multiple. Emails. Is no fun at all! 


Frankly you should be ashamed of yourself Mr Gordon. 


Blatantly spamming people's email addresses with this nonsense.  


Not respecting or listening to people's requests to be removed from this 
stupid list.  


Messages bouncing when I ask to be removed. 


A horrendous web interface. 


To be honest there are far better alternatives available to Mac-access. 


For the last time please remove me from this sorry excuse for a list. 


Sadam Ahmed 


Sent from my iPhone 


-- 





On 25 May 2015, at 3:22 pm, Jay Rufo jayr...@verizon.net wrote:


  Administrator,
   just because you decided to start this list again is no excuse to take 
all
  the email addresses you had and suddenly start to send email's/start the
  list again. Sending people an email stating the list was available would
  have been sufficient. Should this have happened then folks that were 
willing
  could have signed up again. Secondarily, you obviously have no idea how to
  conduct a list hence the multiple repeated emails. Shouldn't you have 
tested
  this? Are you insane? Good god.

   I enjoy the fact you want to have a list and share knowledge. We all need
  that. I don't clap my hands in terms of how you went about it. You strike 
me
  as someone who just got his Nintendo back!

   That said, I wish you well with this list but please take me off it
  promptly. Since this list has been on hiatus, I've figured out the apple
  operating system to my satisfaction.


  Best,

  Jay





Re: [Mac-Access]: Please remove my email

2015-05-24 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sabam,

I  wrote you off list.  Please contact me back privately.

clgillan...@gmail.com

Chris.
  - Original Message - 
  From: sadam ahmed 
  To: mac-access@mac-access.net 
  Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 9:42 AM
  Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Please remove my email


  Hi Gordon, 


  Please remove my email from this list. 


  This is getting rather annoying. 

  Best wishes, 



  Sadam Ahmed 


  Email: 


  sadamahmed1...@icloud.com 


  Sent from my iPhone. 


  -- 





  On 24 May 2015, at 10:37 pm, Joseph Hudson jhud7...@outlook.com wrote:


Hi, another thing that should need to be fixed is everybody is receiving 
double emails. At least I am on the sand.




Do you have a problem navigating social media? Do you find that email is 
the best way to communicate, are you interested in meeting new people and 
making new friends? Then we have created a group for you.this group, is where 
blind and deaf individuals can get together and socialize in communicate. If 
you were interested please subscribe here.
http://list.ntxability.org/mailman/listinfo/chat_list.ntxability.org or 
send a blank message to


chat-requ...@list.ntxability.org
Sent from my iPhone

On May 24, 2015, at 7:30 AM, April Brown aprilbrownsh...@gmail.com wrote:


  Please remove my email


  April Brown






On May 24, 2015, at 5:27 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:


Good Sunday to all

We should now be back in business as a group, although I have some 
tweaking still to do.  But I hope you’re all well, and receive our call.

Please don’t send “I am here’, or “I see you” to the group.  We just 
want life to resume from where it left off.

Let’s just say we’ve had a spectacular server crash from which we 
couldn’t recover.  So we were forced to make a transition, ready or not!

Kindest regards

Gordon







Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies Gentlemen, We Are Back!

2015-05-24 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Firstly,

This list is not being ran by Googlegroups.  So, I'm not sure that reporting 
it there would do any good.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Jimmy Podsim jp.kd5...@att.net

To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!


We should not have to route the message too drunk to get off of the list. 
All that does is fill up your junk folder. I have tried several times to 
remove myself using the proper steps. However, it does not work. I do not 
know who or where the moderators are, but they should be removing peoples 
addresses from the list sent several people have said that the steps to 
remove themselves are not working. I have not received email from this list 
in over six months. I thought the list had been deleted. Of course, if I 
wanted to be a pain in the ass, I could report this group to Google groups. 
Whomever the moderators are, simply remove me from this list and I will 
forget this ever happened.


And just a note, if you report these messages as junk, and a Knouff people 
do it, then they will start going into everybody's junk folder.


Jimmy Podsim.
FB  http://www.facebook.com/jimmy.podsim  ...
Sent from my iPhone

On May 24, 2015, at 1:28 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:


I am not having this problem of multiple emails. A possible suggestion to 
you guys is you route your unwonted mail to junk or you make up some 
message rules to stop it coming into your inbox.




On 24 May 2015, at 19:25, Maireadomahony maireadomah...@gmail.com 
wrote:


Please remove my email from this list. I am getting far to many emails 
from it and most of them i am receiving multible times.


Regards
Mairead O Mahony

On 24 May 2015, at 18:00, Angela Delicata angeladelic...@email.it 
wrote:


Please, remove me as well.
Thanks in advance.
Angela from Italy


Il 24/05/2015 13:43, sadam ahmed ha scritto:

Hi Gordon,

I am writing this email to ask you to remove me from this list.

If you could remove me as soon as possible it would be greatly 
appreciated.


Best wishes,

Sadam Ahmed

Email:

sadamahmed1...@icloud.com

Sent from my iPhone.

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Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies Gentlemen, We Are Back!

2015-05-24 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Aao!  Shit!  It won't even let you send Gordon a private e-mail?

Does

supp...@mac-access.net work?

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk

To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 2:52 PM
Subject: RE: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!




Hello list

I have been trying to contact the moderator of this list to unsubscribe 
via:


mac-access-ow...@mac-access.net
and
gor...@mac-access.net

only to have my emails returned as undelivered.

Obviously, there is a major problem within the system somewhere so what do
we do next?


Regards

Henry









Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies Gentlemen, We Are Back!

2015-05-24 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sabam,

Write me off list.

clgillan...@gmail.com

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: sadam ahmed 
  To: mac-access@mac-access.net 
  Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 10:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!


  I don't wish to be on this list. 


  It has been quiet for many months. 


  This is turning into spam almost. 


  Best wishes, 


  Sadam Ahmed 


  Email: 


  sadamahmed1...@icloud.com 


  Sent from my iPhone. 


  -- 





  On 25 May 2015, at 12:36 am, Martin Corr mcorr...@aol.com wrote:




Sent from my iPhone


  On 24 May 2015, at 15:24, Jimmy Podsim jp.kd5...@att.net wrote:



  Firstly, I had forgotten I was even on this list. I haven't seen nothing 
from it for months. At this time, I do not need the information from this list. 
It just clutters up my inbox.





  Jimmy Podsim.  

  FB  http://www.facebook.com/jimmy.podsim  ...

  Sent from my iPhone



On May 24, 2015, at 9:21 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:



why are you guys also unhappy with the list and wishing to unsubscribe?







  On 24 May 2015, at 15:13, Nancy Feldman 
nancy.feld...@centurylink.net wrote:



  Please remove me as well. I tried to unsubscribe, but I didn't see 
any results.



  Thanks.





  -Original Message-

  From: Gordon Smith [mailto:gor...@mac-access.net] 

  Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 3:27 AM

  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility

  Subject: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!



  Good Sunday to all



  We should now be back in business as a group, although I have some 
tweaking still to do.  But I hope you’re all well, and receive our call.



  Please don’t send “I am here’, or “I see you” to the group.  We just 
want life to resume from where it left off.



  Let’s just say we’ve had a spectacular server crash from which we 
couldn’t recover.  So we were forced to make a transition, ready or not!



  Kindest regards



  Gordon

  Please unsubscribe me from these emails 




Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies Gentlemen, We Are Back!

2015-05-24 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Angela,

Write me off list as well please.

clgillan...@gmail.com

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Angela Delicata angeladelic...@email.it

To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!


Cannot find any link to do so.


Il 24/05/2015 18:17, Eleanor Martha Burke ha scritto:

furthermore I think they should remove themselves.




On 24 May 2015, at 15:26, Judy Pryor judith.pr...@btinternet.com wrote:

I was thinking just the same as you Eleanor.
Judy
On 24 May 2015, at 15:21, Eleanor Martha Burke 
eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:


why are you guys also unhappy with the list and wishing to unsubscribe?



On 24 May 2015, at 15:13, Nancy Feldman nancy.feld...@centurylink.net 
wrote:


Please remove me as well. I tried to unsubscribe, but I didn't see any 
results.


Thanks.


-Original Message-
From: Gordon Smith [mailto:gor...@mac-access.net]
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 3:27 AM
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!

Good Sunday to all

We should now be back in business as a group, although I have some 
tweaking still to do.  But I hope you’re all well, and receive our 
call.


Please don’t send “I am here’, or “I see you” to the group.  We just 
want life to resume from where it left off.


Let’s just say we’ve had a spectacular server crash from which we 
couldn’t recover.  So we were forced to make a transition, ready or 
not!


Kindest regards

Gordon















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Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies Gentlemen, We Are Back!

2015-05-24 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Goodness, gracious!

OK?  How about this!

Try to unsubscribe by doing:

mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net

In the subject, and the body both, type the word
unsubscribe

I can't promise that'll work, but it's worth a shot.

If that doesn't work, try:

mac-access-unsubscr...@mac-access.net

Unfortunately, that's all I got.

Chris.




Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies Gentlemen, We Are Back!

2015-05-24 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

You know what is stranger about all this?

Try just going in a browser to

http://www.mac-access.net

and look at what comes up.

Unless I typed it wrong, but I don't think I did, I get this weird webmail 
configuration server page.  Now, how bizarre is that!


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Jimmy Podsim jp.kd5...@att.net

To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!


I have tried both of those I have also tried it with the word leave. None of 
them seem to work. I do not even get a response from the server.


Jimmy Podsim.
FB  http://www.facebook.com/jimmy.podsim  ...
Sent from my iPhone

On May 24, 2015, at 6:50 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


Goodness, gracious!

OK?  How about this!

Try to unsubscribe by doing:

mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net

In the subject, and the body both, type the word
unsubscribe

I can't promise that'll work, but it's worth a shot.

If that doesn't work, try:

mac-access-unsubscr...@mac-access.net

Unfortunately, that's all I got.

Chris.







Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies Gentlemen, We Are Back!

2015-05-24 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Aside from sending an e-mail to:

mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net

then put in the subject and the body both, the word

unsubscribe

That's the only way I know to do it.  That method used to work.  - Not sure 
about now.


Chris.




Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies Gentlemen, We Are Back!

2015-05-24 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Well, I know one thing, wasn't that the site where they were selling their 
Take Control books?  Need I say more?


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Matthew Carello mcarell...@comcast.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!


I was wondering that myself. The page is rather odd. I guess Gordon has a 
lot more then a few bugs to work out.
On May 24, 2015, at 7:41 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


You know what is stranger about all this?

Try just going in a browser to

http://www.mac-access.net

and look at what comes up.

Unless I typed it wrong, but I don't think I did, I get this weird webmail 
configuration server page.  Now, how bizarre is that!


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Jimmy Podsim jp.kd5...@att.net
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!


I have tried both of those I have also tried it with the word leave. None 
of them seem to work. I do not even get a response from the server.


Jimmy Podsim.
FB  http://www.facebook.com/jimmy.podsim  ...
Sent from my iPhone

On May 24, 2015, at 6:50 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


Goodness, gracious!

OK?  How about this!

Try to unsubscribe by doing:

mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net

In the subject, and the body both, type the word
unsubscribe

I can't promise that'll work, but it's worth a shot.

If that doesn't work, try:

mac-access-unsubscr...@mac-access.net

Unfortunately, that's all I got.

Chris.











Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies Gentlemen, We Are Back!

2015-05-24 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I should add that I have asked both Lynn and Gordon off list countless upon 
countless! times, if they'd like me to help them with server/list 
administration, and every time I did, they blew me off.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Matthew Carello mcarell...@comcast.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!


I was wondering that myself. The page is rather odd. I guess Gordon has a 
lot more then a few bugs to work out.
On May 24, 2015, at 7:41 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


You know what is stranger about all this?

Try just going in a browser to

http://www.mac-access.net

and look at what comes up.

Unless I typed it wrong, but I don't think I did, I get this weird webmail 
configuration server page.  Now, how bizarre is that!


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Jimmy Podsim jp.kd5...@att.net
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!


I have tried both of those I have also tried it with the word leave. None 
of them seem to work. I do not even get a response from the server.


Jimmy Podsim.
FB  http://www.facebook.com/jimmy.podsim  ...
Sent from my iPhone

On May 24, 2015, at 6:50 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


Goodness, gracious!

OK?  How about this!

Try to unsubscribe by doing:

mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net

In the subject, and the body both, type the word
unsubscribe

I can't promise that'll work, but it's worth a shot.

If that doesn't work, try:

mac-access-unsubscr...@mac-access.net

Unfortunately, that's all I got.

Chris.











Re: [Mac-Access]: Please remove my email

2015-05-24 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
LOL LOL LOL!  That's hillarious!

Seriously though, yeah...

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Ben J. Bloomgren 
  To: mac-access@mac-access.net 
  Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 10:21 PM
  Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Please remove my email


  Unfortunately, I'm gonna add myself to this list of exiters from Exeter. Lol 
:)

  Ben
- Original Message - 
From: Eleanor Martha Burke 
To: mac-access@mac-access.net 
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 15:19
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Please remove my email


we shall be sorry to see all of you go.




On 24 May 2015, at 22:54, barbara jones jone...@comcast.net wrote:


  Please remove me as well. Thank you. 
  Barbara Jones
  jone...@comcast.net


  On May 24, 2015, at 4:25 PM, Juanita Martin jordmar...@suddenlink.net 
wrote:


So am I.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 24, 2015, at 7:37 AM, Joseph Hudson jhud7...@outlook.com wrote:


  Hi, another thing that should need to be fixed is everybody is 
receiving double emails. At least I am on the sand.




  Do you have a problem navigating social media? Do you find that email 
is the best way to communicate, are you interested in meeting new people and 
making new friends? Then we have created a group for you.this group, is where 
blind and deaf individuals can get together and socialize in communicate. If 
you were interested please subscribe here. 
  http://list.ntxability.org/mailman/listinfo/chat_list.ntxability.org 
or send a blank message to


  chat-requ...@list.ntxability.org
  Sent from my iPhone

  On May 24, 2015, at 7:30 AM, April Brown aprilbrownsh...@gmail.com 
wrote:


Please remove my email 


April Brown 






  On May 24, 2015, at 5:27 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net 
wrote:


  Good Sunday to all

  We should now be back in business as a group, although I have 
some tweaking still to do.  But I hope you’re all well, and receive our call.

  Please don’t send “I am here’, or “I see you” to the group.  We 
just want life to resume from where it left off.

  Let’s just say we’ve had a spectacular server crash from which we 
couldn’t recover.  So we were forced to make a transition, ready or not!

  Kindest regards

  Gordon











--
  This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus 
protection is active. 
   



Re: [Mac-access]: mac update desktop

2015-05-02 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Wow!  Where does one obtain this nice little gem?

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com

To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2015 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: mac update desktop


I do it this way. It installs it for you and then you can update *all* apps 
that are on mac update and on your system. It's way too cool! and very 
convenient
On May 2, 2015, at 5:18 AM, Judy Pryor judith.pr...@btinternet.com 
wrote:


I was just  looking at installing Vienna when I was presented with Mac 
update desktop 6 which sounds easier to download apps.  Are there any 
pros or cons to downloading apps using  desktop 6.

Many thanks  Judy
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Re: [Mac-access]: mac update desktop

2015-05-02 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

That's what I suspected, but just wasn't totally sure.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com

To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2015 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: mac update desktop



It's your email address, that's  yoru user name.

Take care and be blessed.

Oh and I've been having bank issues with several services like that  for 
days now. wonder of somethingn is up.
On May 2, 2015, at 3:31 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


That's exactly what I did Sarah.  This looks really really cool.  The 
only thing is, I tried upgrading to the $20 anual plan, but when I 
submitted my card info, it pops back up and says Application Error.  My 
bank told me, when I called them that it did indeed charge me.  So, I'm 
not terribly concerned, but I did open a ticket with Mac Access Support, 
as I need to be sure that my account did indeed get upgraded.  It's kind 
of hard looking from the web site itself for me to determine if it did. 
Is there a surefire way I could look once logged in to know?


Also, I never got an e-mail with my user name.  I know the e-mail address 
I registered with, but that's all.  Yes, I did check spam/junkmail, and 
nothing's there either.  When I opened the ticket, they asked for my user 
name, as well as asking for my E-mail address.  I'm hoping that my user 
name is! my e-mail address.  That's what I typed into the form.  I just 
typed the same for both fields.  I hope that will be sufficient for them 
to look me up.  LOL!


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com 
mailto:marri...@gmail.com
To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net 
mailto:mac-access@mac-access.net

Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2015 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: mac update desktop


go to www.macupdate.com http://www.macupdate.com/ 
http://www.macupdate.com/ http://www.macupdate.com/ a 
http://www.macupdate.coma/ http://www.macupdate.coma/nd download 
macupdate desktop6. I've been using the service since 2012 and love it.
On May 2, 2015, at 2:31 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


Wow!  Where does one obtain this nice little gem?

Chris.

- Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami 
marri...@gmail.com

To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2015 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: mac update desktop


I do it this way. It installs it for you and then you can update *all* 
apps that are on mac update and on your system. It's way too cool! and 
very convenient
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wrote:


I was just  looking at installing Vienna when I was presented with 
Mac update desktop 6 which sounds easier to download apps.  Are there 
any pros or cons to downloading apps using  desktop 6.

Many thanks  Judy
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Re: [Mac-access]: DVD Copier for the Mac

2015-05-02 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
OK, but will this duplicate it to another DVD, keeping all the chapter marks 
intact, all the root menus, all the sub menus, all the sub titles, all the 
extras/hidden scenes, all the different aspect ratio settings if any, etc? 
I'm literally wanting an exact! 1, hundred! percent duplication of the DVD. 
I  want the copy to be as if I'd gone out to Amazon or wherever and have 
gotten a second copy.


I want the checksum of the DVD iso to be exact.

Chris.

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From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com

To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2015 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: DVD Copier for the Mac


hand brake can do it, but it's very verys low, takes about an hour or so 
to do a 3 hour long dvd.


Take care.

On May 2, 2015, at 10:38 AM, Matthew Chao mattc...@verizon.net wrote:

Hi, Folks.  Anyone know of a good DVD copier for the Mac?  Thanks.

Matthew Chao

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Re: [Mac-access]: DVD Copier for the Mac

2015-05-02 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Exactly.  And that's what I am looking for.  I know Any DVD will do it on 
Windows, and so will DVD Shrink, but they're not available on the mac 
platform, so, there went that idea.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com

To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2015 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: DVD Copier for the Mac


Nope.  Handbreak rips to mp4. I dont' knwo of a 100 percent sector by 
sector  dvd coppier for mac.


Be blessed.
On May 2, 2015, at 2:40 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


OK, but will this duplicate it to another DVD, keeping all the chapter 
marks intact, all the root menus, all the sub menus, all the sub titles, 
all the extras/hidden scenes, all the different aspect ratio settings if 
any, etc? I'm literally wanting an exact! 1, hundred! percent duplication 
of the DVD. I  want the copy to be as if I'd gone out to Amazon or 
wherever and have gotten a second copy.


I want the checksum of the DVD iso to be exact.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2015 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: DVD Copier for the Mac


hand brake can do it, but it's very verys low, takes about an hour or so 
to do a 3 hour long dvd.


Take care.

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Hi, Folks.  Anyone know of a good DVD copier for the Mac?  Thanks.

Matthew Chao

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Re: [Mac-access]: DVD Copier for the Mac

2015-05-02 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Actually, Handbrake encodes the video, plus, if it is a copy protected DVD 
not only does it have to encode, but it also has to decode the incription as 
well.  One hour for a 3 hour long movie is actually not bad when you 
consider.  This means it's basically encoding at 3X.  Even on my newer 
system, when you say old, I'm not sure how old you mean of a system, but on 
my mac mini mid 2012 running OSX 10.9.5 Mavericks, so not even Yosemite, and 
16GB ram, with the Apple® USB aluminum Superdrive, it takes me about that 
long for a 2 hour long DVD, but again, that's only encoding the DVD to 
things like an AVI, or M4V, or  .MPEG, etc.  That's not what I, at least, am 
wanting.  I'm! literally wanting to make a 100 percent duplication.


Before anyone asks, why can't you just use a program that makes an exact CD 
or DVD to CD or DVD copy?  It's not that easy.  If the movie's incrypted, 
then, that isn't gonna work.


Chris.

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From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com

To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2015 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: DVD Copier for the Mac


It will still work. Just add the files to the queue and go. then go have a 
coffee while you wait. I thinkt he reason it took so long was I was 
running on an older system.


Good luck.

On May 2, 2015, at 1:45 PM, Matthew Chao mattc...@verizon.net wrote:

Hi, Sarah.  Thanks.  That's terrible performance.  I have a 20-minute DVD 
I need copied.--Matthew Chao


At 01:05 PM 5/2/2015 -0700, you wrote:
hand brake can do it, but it's very verys low, takes about an hour or so 
to do a 3 hour long dvd.


Take care.
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 wrote:


 Hi, Folks.  Anyone know of a good DVD copier for the Mac?  Thanks.

 Matthew Chao

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Re: [Mac-access]: mac update desktop

2015-05-02 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
That's exactly what I did Sarah.  This looks really really cool.  The only 
thing is, I tried upgrading to the $20 anual plan, but when I submitted my 
card info, it pops back up and says Application Error.  My bank told me, 
when I called them that it did indeed charge me.  So, I'm not terribly 
concerned, but I did open a ticket with Mac Access Support, as I need to be 
sure that my account did indeed get upgraded.  It's kind of hard looking 
from the web site itself for me to determine if it did.  Is there a surefire 
way I could look once logged in to know?


Also, I never got an e-mail with my user name.  I know the e-mail address I 
registered with, but that's all.  Yes, I did check spam/junkmail, and 
nothing's there either.  When I opened the ticket, they asked for my user 
name, as well as asking for my E-mail address.  I'm hoping that my user name 
is! my e-mail address.  That's what I typed into the form.  I just typed the 
same for both fields.  I hope that will be sufficient for them to look me 
up.  LOL!


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com

To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2015 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: mac update desktop


go to www.macupdate.com http://www.macupdate.com/ a 
http://www.macupdate.coma/nd download macupdate desktop6. I've been 
using the service since 2012 and love it.
On May 2, 2015, at 2:31 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


Wow!  Where does one obtain this nice little gem?

Chris.

- Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2015 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: mac update desktop


I do it this way. It installs it for you and then you can update *all* 
apps that are on mac update and on your system. It's way too cool! and 
very convenient
On May 2, 2015, at 5:18 AM, Judy Pryor judith.pr...@btinternet.com 
wrote:


I was just  looking at installing Vienna when I was presented with Mac 
update desktop 6 which sounds easier to download apps.  Are there any 
pros or cons to downloading apps using  desktop 6.

Many thanks  Judy
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Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion

2015-04-27 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Yeah, William, if people have spent the $99 to buy it.  Plus, KNFB reader 
doesn't really do that great, in my personal experience, with reading 
computer monitors.  Plus, the buttons like Next, and Cancel, etc have 
underlined letters so you know what key to hit with your alt key.  KNFB 
isn't gonna tell you what those underlined hotkey letters are.  Plus, If you 
wanted to use the mouse to get through the installer, KNFB isn't going to be 
able to direct your mouse pointer to where you need to click.


I see where you're going with this, but it would probably be more headache 
than it's worth.  You'd probably do better with Be My Eyes, although, 
lately, I'm not so convinced of that after the problem that every one of my 
I O S devices seem to be having according to the sighted vollenteers.  But, 
that's for another post.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: william lomas w.lo...@icloud.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 6:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion



can’t you use eh KNFB reader to read your monitor as you go?

On Apr 27, 2015, at 7:51 AM, Eleanor burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com 
wrote:


I know that my Apple store would not assist you in installing windows.




On 27 Apr 2015, at 06:55, Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi



I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I
think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it.



However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp 
or

with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec
machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some 
questions.




I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different
operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of
running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a
Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would 
there

be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader?



My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and 
there
does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to 
how
to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange 
question,
but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted 
help,
is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to 
install

Windows?

I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which 
I

could take along there.



Thank you for any help.



Brian Hartgen

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Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion

2015-04-27 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
OK, if you're doing audio work, then yes, I'd strongly suggest Bootcamp, but 
again, that's just me.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com

To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion



Hi Chris

What you say makes complete sense. I do a lot of audio work, so Bootcamp 
may

be the way to go.

Thank you.


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
Gilland
Sent: 27 April 2015 15:12
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion

Brian,

I'm unsure if they would help you installing Windows.  It's really hard to
say.  I think it would be up to their disgression.  Most likely though,
they'd probably not.  They'd probaby help you get the Bootcamp partition 
set

up, but that would be about the end of it.  Again though.  I'd call them.
It doesn't hurt to try.  The least they'd do is say no, so I don't wanna
discourage you from giving it a shot.

As for the advantages and disadvantages, it really just depends on what
you're doing.  The biggest thing is, with Bootcamp, you're booted directly
into Windows on its own partition.  With VMWare Fusion or the like, the
issue you're going to face is, for one thing, it'll take a little more 
work,

as certain keys on the keyboard will have to be remapped to work correctly
within Windows, it's not a big deal, just a little tedious.  Plus, realize
that then, you'll be using system resources both for OSX and for Windows 
at

the same time.  Again, it depends on how processor intense and how memory
intense the stuff in Windows can be that you need to accomplish.

Me personally?  I use Bootcamp, but yeah... that's just me personally.
Plus, with me being an audio engineer, I don't want any of my Windows 
stuff

touching my mac partition.  But again, I'm weird that way.

Chris.

- Original Message -
From: Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com
To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 1:55 AM
Subject: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion



Hi



I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I
think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it.



However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp 
or

with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec
machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions.



I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different
operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of
running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a
Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would
there
be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader?



My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and
there
does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to 
how

to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question,
but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted 
help,

is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to
install
Windows?

I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which 
I

could take along there.



Thank you for any help.



Brian Hartgen

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Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion

2015-04-27 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Brian,

I'm unsure if they would help you installing Windows.  It's really hard to 
say.  I think it would be up to their disgression.  Most likely though, 
they'd probably not.  They'd probaby help you get the Bootcamp partition set 
up, but that would be about the end of it.  Again though.  I'd call them. 
It doesn't hurt to try.  The least they'd do is say no, so I don't wanna 
discourage you from giving it a shot.


As for the advantages and disadvantages, it really just depends on what 
you're doing.  The biggest thing is, with Bootcamp, you're booted directly 
into Windows on its own partition.  With VMWare Fusion or the like, the 
issue you're going to face is, for one thing, it'll take a little more work, 
as certain keys on the keyboard will have to be remapped to work correctly 
within Windows, it's not a big deal, just a little tedious.  Plus, realize 
that then, you'll be using system resources both for OSX and for Windows at 
the same time.  Again, it depends on how processor intense and how memory 
intense the stuff in Windows can be that you need to accomplish.


Me personally?  I use Bootcamp, but yeah... that's just me personally. 
Plus, with me being an audio engineer, I don't want any of my Windows stuff 
touching my mac partition.  But again, I'm weird that way.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com

To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 1:55 AM
Subject: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion



Hi



I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I
think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it.



However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or
with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec
machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions.



I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different
operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of
running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a
Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would 
there

be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader?



My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and 
there

does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how
to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question,
but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help,
is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to 
install

Windows?

I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I
could take along there.



Thank you for any help.



Brian Hartgen

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Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion

2015-04-27 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Brian wrote:

I could do that, but I wasn't sure it would be good enough to read the Mac 
screen.

If you think it would get me through it I could give it a shot.

It's worth a try, don't get me wrong, but I'm just not totally convinced how 
great the result yielded would be.  I'd be interested in knowing if you get 
through it.  Just know however, YMMV.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com

To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 6:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion



Hi William

I could do that, but I wasn't sure it would be good enough to read the Mac 
screen.

If you think it would get me through it I could give it a shot.

Thanks.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas

Sent: 27 April 2015 11:08
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion

can’t you use eh KNFB reader to read your monitor as you go?

On Apr 27, 2015, at 7:51 AM, Eleanor burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com 
wrote:


I know that my Apple store would not assist you in installing windows.




On 27 Apr 2015, at 06:55, Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi



I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying
and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it.



However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with
Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This
is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have 
some questions.




I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different
operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages
of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran
it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For
example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows 
screen-reader?




My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and
there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete
accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem
like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple
store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they
likely to say no because I need to install Windows?

I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive
which I could take along there.



Thank you for any help.



Brian Hartgen

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[Mac-access]: Severe problem with Internet: Warning! not for the basic mac user!

2015-04-26 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
As I said in my subject, I don't want to turn anyone off from reading this 
e-mail.  If you genuinely think you can help, just know, no suggestion is 
stupid.  Especially considerring that I've tried everything under the son.  At 
this point, I'm willing to try literally just about anything including throwing 
the mac across the room, then screaming!  LOL!

So, a little bit of very brief background.  I have a Dell computer which 
apparently has just bitten the dust.  It's about 10 years old.  This really 
isn't rellavent more so than to say  I just put it in storage until I figure 
out what to do with it.  I also have a Yamaha hifi dolby/prologic surround 
sound 5.1 receiver.  This receiver has an ethernet port on the back of it which 
allows you to connect it to an internet wired connection for things like 
Pandora, Spottify, etc.  Get to the point, Chris, you say.  I am, I am, I 
promise.  Stick with me on this.  Just hear me out for a sec as this is 
actually incredibly rellavant to my problem.

So, here's the issue.  The receiver doesn't have wifi capability.  It's stricly 
only able to connect to a network via a hardwired ethernet connection.  Well, 
this would be all fine and dandy except for one thing.

I don't have room on my desk with my router to set the receiver up.  Therefore, 
I had to set the receiver up across the room beside that old busted Dell 
machine.  Due to home regulations set by my landlord, I cannot tack anything to 
the walls, nor use double sided tape, or anything of the sort, nor can I tack 
anything across my ceiling.  Therefore, there went using a token ringed 
topology, let alone a PTP host/client configuration.  Therefore, what I was 
doing was connecting via wifi to my home network's router across the room.  
This supplied internet connectivity to me on the Dell machine.  Then what I did 
was, I ran an ethernet cable from the on board ethernet port on the back of the 
Dell tower to the ethernet port on my Yamaha receiver.  Then, finally, in 
Windows XP, I was able to go under Control Panel, Networks, select both my wifi 
connection as well as my ethernet connection, hit the application's key, or 
rather, right click, same thing, and then select bridge connectio
 n from the context menu.  Once done, it made my wifi connection carry down to 
my ethernet port.  So, in other words, as long as I have an internet connection 
on my wifi end, then whatever got plugged into the ethernet port hardwired used 
that exact same connection.

So, now that the Dell system has gone to its grave, and is there rotting, LOL!  
just kidding, seriously  though, I'm trying to achieve this same exact thing 
with Yosemite 10.10.3.  No matter what the heck I do though, try as I may, I 
just can! not! seem to get this to work.

So far, I went into System Preferences, Sharing.  Under here, I first selected 
the internet sharing service in the table.  Then, making sure the box in the 
first column of that table row was unchecked, I moved down and set the share 
from popup button to wifi.  Then, in the share to table, I made sure that the 
only thing checked was ethernet.  Then, I went back to the services table, 
checked the box beside the Internet sharing service, and started up the service.

I should add that all the above things were done while the ethernet cable was 
plugged in both to the mac, and to the receiver.

I then tried getting the receiver to go out online via internet, but it 
wouldn't.  I wondered if something got turned off in the receiver's menus, so I 
tested with an old laptop I have which doesn't even have wifi ability, only 
ethernet.  It didn't work there either, so trust me.  It's not the receiver 
here that's at fault.

I went back to System Prefernces, then to network.  I noticed that the first 
service in the table was eithernet, not wifi, even though wifi is my primary 
means to connect.  Therefore, I went to the actions popup button, and to 
service order, I think it's called... something to that effect.  Using the 
Voiceover's drag and drop abilities, I dragged the connections around and got 
them so wifi was first, then Ethernet was second.  This way, wifi takes higher 
priority.  This didn't fix the issue.

Next, still in network settings, on the ethernet connection, I noticed though 
connected, it said that it had a self assigned IP address, and will not be able 
to connect to the internet.  The IP address it's showing is:  169.254.105.163.  
Obviously, from another machine on my network than the mac, if I try pinging 
this address, it times out instantly.  I can't even do a tracert query.  It 
doesn't even complete the first hop if I do.  Under Network Settings on the 
mac, on the Ethernet connection in the table, the IPV4 settings are set to 
DHCP, however, I tried DHCP with manual address, and entered that in by hand.  
I've even tried going to manual in the popup button, and entering everything 
totally! by hand such as the IPV4 address, the router address, the dns 

Re: [Mac-access]: Some Apple news

2015-04-16 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Wait a minute!  If that is the case, then why on earth was David, who is in 
Austrailia able to get it to work on that Applevis review that he did 
yesterday?


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 1:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Some Apple news


A simple Google search verifies the statement regarding Netflix though it 
would appear that Audio Description is restricted to the U.S. and Canada at 
this point.

http://blog.netflix.com/2015/04/netflix-begins-audio-description-for.html


On 16/04/2015 7:55 AM, Sean Murphy wrote:

Apple TV has been accessible for ages.

How do you verify if Netflix has audio describe on it?

Sean
On 16 Apr 2015, at 7:49 am, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


I've not heard the podcast.  What exactly did he demonstrate?

Chris.

- Original Message - From: Leo Bissonnette 
leo.bissonne...@videotron.ca

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Some Apple news



Hi,

As a follow up on the Apple TV and NetFlicks, can anyone confirm its 
availability in Canada….


David Woodbridge did a great tutorial on AppleVis today and I followed 
it through. Sadly—unless I missed a step in his instructions, I have 
the feeling that Canada is not making audio descriptions available…. 
Would, as I say, really want to confirm this.


Leo


On Apr 15, 2015, at 3:00 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com 
wrote:


Actually the apple tv now cost $69 us. That might be cheaper in 
england. Just letting you know.


Take care.
On Apr 15, 2015, at 9:11 AM, Christopher Hallsworth 
challswor...@icloud.com wrote:


Hi all,
some Apple news. Some products will be purchased in the future which 
dad has allowed me to consider. The first is an Apple TV which is a 
small media streaming box that is connected to your TV and allows you 
to stream anything from media stored in iTunes either for PC or Mac 
to TV shows and movies either purchased from the iTunes Store or 
streamed from a service like Netflix which as of yesterday is now 
providing audio description. The device costs £99.00 UK but extra 
charges may apply especially if you subscribe to services like 
Netflix which is £6.00/month UK. The second product to be considered 
is the Apple Watch. Dad is hinting I can do allsorts from my writs 
without getting my phone out of my pocket. But like I told him it is 
only compatible with the iPhone 5 and later so this will definitely 
be a future purchase whereas the Apple TV is a near future purchase. 
He sounds really excited that they both talk. If anyone has an Apple 
TV please tell me what you think of it. Thank you in advance! Both 
products were discussed during our pints this afternoon.

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Re: [Mac-access]: Some Apple news

2015-04-16 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Mind you that it only works on certain shows/movies.  You can't expect 
everything to have audio description.  Further, if you were using the same 
TV show on Netflix that David used, be warned.  The first eppisode of that 
series doesn't have description for some reason.  The second episode I think 
called Cut Man does though.  I'm not in Canada, I'm in the states, so it 
could! be a licensing patton thing, but I doubt it.


So yeah, try it with the second episode of that series, and see if it works.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Leo Bissonnette leo.bissonne...@videotron.ca

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Some Apple news



Hi,

I am not finding that NetFlix is working here in Canada. I have heard 
David Woodbridge’s two podcasts and read a few other ways to get the set 
up going. Have done all the suggested things and I am not getting 
descriptive audio here in Canada. NetFlix have not responded to my e-mail…


So, for now, I have to believe that this feature is only available in the 
U.S…..


Would be interested to find out what others get in the next day or so….

Leo


On Apr 16, 2015, at 4:15 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


Wait a minute!  If that is the case, then why on earth was David, who is 
in Austrailia able to get it to work on that Applevis review that he did 
yesterday?


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan 
grtd...@internode.on.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 1:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Some Apple news


A simple Google search verifies the statement regarding Netflix though 
it would appear that Audio Description is restricted to the U.S. and 
Canada at this point.

http://blog.netflix.com/2015/04/netflix-begins-audio-description-for.html


On 16/04/2015 7:55 AM, Sean Murphy wrote:

Apple TV has been accessible for ages.

How do you verify if Netflix has audio describe on it?

Sean
On 16 Apr 2015, at 7:49 am, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


I've not heard the podcast.  What exactly did he demonstrate?

Chris.

- Original Message - From: Leo Bissonnette 
leo.bissonne...@videotron.ca

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Some Apple news



Hi,

As a follow up on the Apple TV and NetFlicks, can anyone confirm its 
availability in Canada….


David Woodbridge did a great tutorial on AppleVis today and I 
followed it through. Sadly—unless I missed a step in his 
instructions, I have the feeling that Canada is not making audio 
descriptions available…. Would, as I say, really want to confirm 
this.


Leo


On Apr 15, 2015, at 3:00 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com 
wrote:


Actually the apple tv now cost $69 us. That might be cheaper in 
england. Just letting you know.


Take care.
On Apr 15, 2015, at 9:11 AM, Christopher Hallsworth 
challswor...@icloud.com wrote:


Hi all,
some Apple news. Some products will be purchased in the future 
which dad has allowed me to consider. The first is an Apple TV 
which is a small media streaming box that is connected to your TV 
and allows you to stream anything from media stored in iTunes 
either for PC or Mac to TV shows and movies either purchased from 
the iTunes Store or streamed from a service like Netflix which as 
of yesterday is now providing audio description. The device costs 
£99.00 UK but extra charges may apply especially if you subscribe 
to services like Netflix which is £6.00/month UK. The second 
product to be considered is the Apple Watch. Dad is hinting I can 
do allsorts from my writs without getting my phone out of my 
pocket. But like I told him it is only compatible with the iPhone 5 
and later so this will definitely be a future purchase whereas the 
Apple TV is a near future purchase. He sounds really excited that 
they both talk. If anyone has an Apple TV please tell me what you 
think of it. Thank you in advance! Both products were discussed 
during our pints this afternoon.

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Re: [Mac-access]: Copying/ripping DVD'S

2015-04-16 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Ripping, I'd suggest Handbrake.  For copying, you let me know if you find 
out  anything, as I've been wonderring the same for quite some time, and no 
one seems to know.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 12:29 PM
Subject: [Mac-access]: Copying/ripping DVD'S



Hi!

I've not visited this subject for quite some time.

I know that years ago, DVD Remaster could copy DVD'S that were encrypted 
DVD'S is this still the case? Okay so that's copying now what about 
ripping, what are people using for that these days?



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Re: [Mac-access]: Some Apple news

2015-04-16 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Wow!  Weird!  Then, apparently it must be a licensing thing from country 
jurisdiction to country.  that sucks!


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: william lomas w.lo...@icloud.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Some Apple news



The first episode works  here in the United Kingdom.

Sent from my iPhone

On 16 Apr 2015, at 16:47, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


Mind you that it only works on certain shows/movies.  You can't expect 
everything to have audio description.  Further, if you were using the 
same TV show on Netflix that David used, be warned.  The first eppisode 
of that series doesn't have description for some reason.  The second 
episode I think called Cut Man does though.  I'm not in Canada, I'm in 
the states, so it could! be a licensing patton thing, but I doubt it.


So yeah, try it with the second episode of that series, and see if it 
works.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Leo Bissonnette 
leo.bissonne...@videotron.ca

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Some Apple news



Hi,

I am not finding that NetFlix is working here in Canada. I have heard 
David Woodbridge’s two podcasts and read a few other ways to get the set 
up going. Have done all the suggested things and I am not getting 
descriptive audio here in Canada. NetFlix have not responded to my 
e-mail…


So, for now, I have to believe that this feature is only available in 
the U.S…..


Would be interested to find out what others get in the next day or so….

Leo


On Apr 16, 2015, at 4:15 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


Wait a minute!  If that is the case, then why on earth was David, who 
is in Austrailia able to get it to work on that Applevis review that he 
did yesterday?


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan 
grtd...@internode.on.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 1:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Some Apple news


A simple Google search verifies the statement regarding Netflix though 
it would appear that Audio Description is restricted to the U.S. and 
Canada at this point.

http://blog.netflix.com/2015/04/netflix-begins-audio-description-for.html



On 16/04/2015 7:55 AM, Sean Murphy wrote:
Apple TV has been accessible for ages.

How do you verify if Netflix has audio describe on it?

Sean
On 16 Apr 2015, at 7:49 am, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


I've not heard the podcast.  What exactly did he demonstrate?

Chris.

- Original Message - From: Leo Bissonnette 
leo.bissonne...@videotron.ca

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Some Apple news



Hi,

As a follow up on the Apple TV and NetFlicks, can anyone confirm 
its availability in Canada….


David Woodbridge did a great tutorial on AppleVis today and I 
followed it through. Sadly—unless I missed a step in his 
instructions, I have the feeling that Canada is not making audio 
descriptions available…. Would, as I say, really want to confirm 
this.


Leo


On Apr 15, 2015, at 3:00 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com 
wrote:


Actually the apple tv now cost $69 us. That might be cheaper in 
england. Just letting you know.


Take care.
On Apr 15, 2015, at 9:11 AM, Christopher Hallsworth 
challswor...@icloud.com wrote:


Hi all,
some Apple news. Some products will be purchased in the future 
which dad has allowed me to consider. The first is an Apple TV 
which is a small media streaming box that is connected to your TV 
and allows you to stream anything from media stored in iTunes 
either for PC or Mac to TV shows and movies either purchased from 
the iTunes Store or streamed from a service like Netflix which as 
of yesterday is now providing audio description. The device costs 
£99.00 UK but extra charges may apply especially if you subscribe 
to services like Netflix which is £6.00/month UK. The second 
product to be considered is the Apple Watch. Dad is hinting I can 
do allsorts from my writs without getting my phone out of my 
pocket. But like I told him it is only compatible with the iPhone 
5 and later so this will definitely be a future purchase whereas 
the Apple TV is a near future purchase. He sounds really excited 
that they both talk. If anyone has an Apple TV please tell me 
what you think of it. Thank you in advance! Both products were 
discussed during our pints this afternoon.

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Re: [Mac-access]: Some Apple news

2015-04-16 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Were you only able to get it with that one series though, or have you found 
it as well with other shows/movies?  You mind sharing what content up there 
you've found it in?  I'm always interested in  knowing.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Leo Bissonnette leo.bissonne...@videotron.ca

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Some Apple news



Hi,

Good news from the Canadian perspective. Just tried NetFlix again and I 
got the descriptive audio. It’s working now on both my iPhone and Apple 
TV.


So, something good to have….

Leo


On Apr 16, 2015, at 12:54 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


Wow!  Weird!  Then, apparently it must be a licensing thing from country 
jurisdiction to country.  that sucks!


Chris.

- Original Message - From: william lomas w.lo...@icloud.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Some Apple news



The first episode works  here in the United Kingdom.

Sent from my iPhone

On 16 Apr 2015, at 16:47, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


Mind you that it only works on certain shows/movies.  You can't expect 
everything to have audio description.  Further, if you were using the 
same TV show on Netflix that David used, be warned.  The first eppisode 
of that series doesn't have description for some reason.  The second 
episode I think called Cut Man does though.  I'm not in Canada, I'm in 
the states, so it could! be a licensing patton thing, but I doubt it.


So yeah, try it with the second episode of that series, and see if it 
works.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Leo Bissonnette 
leo.bissonne...@videotron.ca

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Some Apple news



Hi,

I am not finding that NetFlix is working here in Canada. I have heard 
David Woodbridge’s two podcasts and read a few other ways to get the 
set up going. Have done all the suggested things and I am not getting 
descriptive audio here in Canada. NetFlix have not responded to my 
e-mail…


So, for now, I have to believe that this feature is only available in 
the U.S…..


Would be interested to find out what others get in the next day or 
so….


Leo


On Apr 16, 2015, at 4:15 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


Wait a minute!  If that is the case, then why on earth was David, who 
is in Austrailia able to get it to work on that Applevis review that 
he did yesterday?


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan 
grtd...@internode.on.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 1:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Some Apple news


A simple Google search verifies the statement regarding Netflix 
though it would appear that Audio Description is restricted to the 
U.S. and Canada at this point.

http://blog.netflix.com/2015/04/netflix-begins-audio-description-for.html



On 16/04/2015 7:55 AM, Sean Murphy wrote:
Apple TV has been accessible for ages.

How do you verify if Netflix has audio describe on it?

Sean
On 16 Apr 2015, at 7:49 am, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


I've not heard the podcast.  What exactly did he demonstrate?

Chris.

- Original Message - From: Leo Bissonnette 
leo.bissonne...@videotron.ca

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Some Apple news



Hi,

As a follow up on the Apple TV and NetFlicks, can anyone confirm 
its availability in Canada….


David Woodbridge did a great tutorial on AppleVis today and I 
followed it through. Sadly—unless I missed a step in his 
instructions, I have the feeling that Canada is not making audio 
descriptions available…. Would, as I say, really want to confirm 
this.


Leo


On Apr 15, 2015, at 3:00 PM, Sarah k Alawami 
marri...@gmail.com wrote:


Actually the apple tv now cost $69 us. That might be cheaper in 
england. Just letting you know.


Take care.
On Apr 15, 2015, at 9:11 AM, Christopher Hallsworth 
challswor...@icloud.com wrote:


Hi all,
some Apple news. Some products will be purchased in the future 
which dad has allowed me to consider. The first is an Apple TV 
which is a small media streaming box that is connected to your 
TV and allows you to stream anything from media stored in 
iTunes either for PC or Mac to TV shows and movies either 
purchased from the iTunes Store or streamed from a service like 
Netflix which as of yesterday is now providing audio 
description. The device costs £99.00 UK but extra charges may 
apply especially if you subscribe to services like Netflix 
which is £6.00/month UK. The second product to be considered is 
the Apple Watch. Dad is hinting I can do allsorts from my writs 
without getting my phone

Re: [Mac-access]: Some Apple news

2015-04-16 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Totally agree with you there!  Smile.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Leo Bissonnette leo.bissonne...@videotron.ca

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Some Apple news



Hi,

So far it was with the Marvel Series. Didn’t get it with House of Cards.

For now, I guess, it will be a matter of trying titles we select. 
Hopefully the number of descriptive titles will grow…


Leo


On Apr 16, 2015, at 3:21 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


Were you only able to get it with that one series though, or have you 
found it as well with other shows/movies?  You mind sharing what content 
up there you've found it in?  I'm always interested in  knowing.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Leo Bissonnette 
leo.bissonne...@videotron.ca

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Some Apple news



Hi,

Good news from the Canadian perspective. Just tried NetFlix again and I 
got the descriptive audio. It’s working now on both my iPhone and Apple 
TV.


So, something good to have….

Leo


On Apr 16, 2015, at 12:54 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


Wow!  Weird!  Then, apparently it must be a licensing thing from 
country jurisdiction to country.  that sucks!


Chris.

- Original Message - From: william lomas w.lo...@icloud.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Some Apple news



The first episode works  here in the United Kingdom.

Sent from my iPhone

On 16 Apr 2015, at 16:47, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


Mind you that it only works on certain shows/movies.  You can't 
expect everything to have audio description.  Further, if you were 
using the same TV show on Netflix that David used, be warned.  The 
first eppisode of that series doesn't have description for some 
reason.  The second episode I think called Cut Man does though.  I'm 
not in Canada, I'm in the states, so it could! be a licensing patton 
thing, but I doubt it.


So yeah, try it with the second episode of that series, and see if it 
works.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Leo Bissonnette 
leo.bissonne...@videotron.ca

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Some Apple news



Hi,

I am not finding that NetFlix is working here in Canada. I have 
heard David Woodbridge’s two podcasts and read a few other ways to 
get the set up going. Have done all the suggested things and I am 
not getting descriptive audio here in Canada. NetFlix have not 
responded to my e-mail…


So, for now, I have to believe that this feature is only available 
in the U.S…..


Would be interested to find out what others get in the next day or 
so….


Leo


On Apr 16, 2015, at 4:15 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


Wait a minute!  If that is the case, then why on earth was David, 
who is in Austrailia able to get it to work on that Applevis review 
that he did yesterday?


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan 
grtd...@internode.on.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 1:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Some Apple news


A simple Google search verifies the statement regarding Netflix 
though it would appear that Audio Description is restricted to the 
U.S. and Canada at this point.

http://blog.netflix.com/2015/04/netflix-begins-audio-description-for.html



On 16/04/2015 7:55 AM, Sean Murphy wrote:
Apple TV has been accessible for ages.

How do you verify if Netflix has audio describe on it?

Sean
On 16 Apr 2015, at 7:49 am, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


I've not heard the podcast.  What exactly did he demonstrate?

Chris.

- Original Message - From: Leo Bissonnette 
leo.bissonne...@videotron.ca

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Some Apple news



Hi,

As a follow up on the Apple TV and NetFlicks, can anyone 
confirm its availability in Canada….


David Woodbridge did a great tutorial on AppleVis today and I 
followed it through. Sadly—unless I missed a step in his 
instructions, I have the feeling that Canada is not making 
audio descriptions available…. Would, as I say, really want to 
confirm this.


Leo


On Apr 15, 2015, at 3:00 PM, Sarah k Alawami 
marri...@gmail.com wrote:


Actually the apple tv now cost $69 us. That might be cheaper 
in england. Just letting you know.


Take care.
On Apr 15, 2015, at 9:11 AM, Christopher Hallsworth 
challswor...@icloud.com wrote:


Hi all,
some Apple news. Some products will be purchased in the 
future which dad has allowed me to consider. The first is an 
Apple TV which is a small

Re: [Mac-access]: Problems with touchID on iPhone 5S

2015-04-15 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Heck, if you have young  kids who'd need it, don't even waist your time 
buying the  electronic wipes... even just a standard baby wipe will do the 
trick.  Just, if you use one, make sure you only do it on your finger. 
Don't do it on the home button itself.  Especially not if the type you're 
using has lotion or aloe etc. in it, as that most likely will make it worse.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Stores, Mary A. msto...@indiana.edu

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Problems with touchID on iPhone 5S



Hello,

My touch ID is kind of finicky, and I have a 5S running on iOS 8.3 as 
well. However, it was finicky before I upgraded. Sometimes I have to try 
three or four times before it registers. I have these electronic wipes, 
though. The packets come with one wet cloth and one dry cloth. And ever 
since I got those, I don't have as much trouble unless my fingers are cold 
or I've only recently washed and dried them. You can see an example of 
these cloths are 
http://www.amazon.com/Advantus-Kleen-Screen-Cleaner-REARR1205/dp/B0017D3O20/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1429033646sr=8-1keywords=electronic+wet+and+dry+wipes .


Mary


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Paul Hopewell

Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 1:29 PM
To: mac-access
Subject: [Mac-access]: Problems with touchID on iPhone 5S

Hello,
I have an iPhone 5S which is about 6 months old and which is currently 
running IOS 8.3.


TouchID worked well for the first 4 months or so, but alas is now 
unreliable. If I register a new fingerprint it works fine for about 2 days 
and then the finger print is no longer recognised.


Do any listers have tips on the best way to position fingers or thumbs 
during the initial fingerprint registration or any other tips on how to 
make touchID reliable. I have tried cleaning the home button with a dry 
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were all different fingers. Would it help to clean the home button in some 
other way?


Many thanks for any tips. TouchID is great while it works!

Do any other listers have problems with TouchID on iPhone 5S? Is TouchID 
on iPhone 6 reliable?


Best regards….

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Re: [Mac-access]: Problems with touchID on iPhone 5S

2015-04-15 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
You've missed the one obvious thing, LOL!  Clean your actual finger.  Make 
sure it has no opened cuts, etc.  I know that sounds really obvious, but 
trust me.  It can make a difference.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Paul Hopewell hopew...@hopewell.org.uk

To: mac-access mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 1:29 PM
Subject: [Mac-access]: Problems with touchID on iPhone 5S



Hello,
I have an iPhone 5S which is about 6 months old and which is currently 
running IOS 8.3.


TouchID worked well for the first 4 months or so, but alas is now 
unreliable. If I register a new fingerprint it works fine for about 2 days 
and then the finger print is no longer recognised.


Do any listers have tips on the best way to position fingers or thumbs 
during the initial fingerprint registration or any other tips on how to 
make touchID reliable. I have tried cleaning the home button with a dry 
cloth and also tried registering the same finger several times as if they 
were all different fingers. Would it help to clean the home button in some 
other way?


Many thanks for any tips. TouchID is great while it works!

Do any other listers have problems with TouchID on iPhone 5S? Is TouchID 
on iPhone 6 reliable?


Best regards….

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Re: [Mac-access]: Problems with touchID on iPhone 5S

2015-04-15 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
That is so weird, I'm not having this issue on either my personal IPhone 6 
Plus, or my work IPhone 5S.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com

To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Problems with touchID on iPhone 5S


Actually I'm having this issuew with the latest of ios 8.3. It will work 
for like 2 days then stop and i have to re-add my finger. I did not have 
this issue with ios 8.2.


Take care.
On Apr 14, 2015, at 10:29 AM, Paul Hopewell hopew...@hopewell.org.uk 
wrote:


Hello,
I have an iPhone 5S which is about 6 months old and which is currently 
running IOS 8.3.


TouchID worked well for the first 4 months or so, but alas is now 
unreliable. If I register a new fingerprint it works fine for about 2 
days and then the finger print is no longer recognised.


Do any listers have tips on the best way to position fingers or thumbs 
during the initial fingerprint registration or any other tips on how to 
make touchID reliable. I have tried cleaning the home button with a dry 
cloth and also tried registering the same finger several times as if they 
were all different fingers. Would it help to clean the home button in 
some other way?


Many thanks for any tips. TouchID is great while it works!

Do any other listers have problems with TouchID on iPhone 5S? Is TouchID 
on iPhone 6 reliable?


Best regards….

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Re: [Mac-access]: Problems with touchID on iPhone 5S

2015-04-15 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
That shouldn't most likely be the case.  It doesn't take much to scan it. 
Are you using the pad of your finger or your finger tip?  If your finger 
tip, then there's you're problem right there.  It needs to be the entire 
soft pad of the finger.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Juanita Martin jordmar...@suddenlink.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Problems with touchID on iPhone 5S


I have never gotten the touch ID to work. I have come to the conclusion 
that my fingers are just too small to cover the entire area that it needs 
to scan.


Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 15, 2015, at 8:49 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


You've missed the one obvious thing, LOL!  Clean your actual finger. 
Make sure it has no opened cuts, etc.  I know that sounds really obvious, 
but trust me.  It can make a difference.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Paul Hopewell 
hopew...@hopewell.org.uk

To: mac-access mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 1:29 PM
Subject: [Mac-access]: Problems with touchID on iPhone 5S



Hello,
I have an iPhone 5S which is about 6 months old and which is currently 
running IOS 8.3.


TouchID worked well for the first 4 months or so, but alas is now 
unreliable. If I register a new fingerprint it works fine for about 2 
days and then the finger print is no longer recognised.


Do any listers have tips on the best way to position fingers or thumbs 
during the initial fingerprint registration or any other tips on how to 
make touchID reliable. I have tried cleaning the home button with a dry 
cloth and also tried registering the same finger several times as if 
they were all different fingers. Would it help to clean the home button 
in some other way?


Many thanks for any tips. TouchID is great while it works!

Do any other listers have problems with TouchID on iPhone 5S? Is TouchID 
on iPhone 6 reliable?


Best regards….

Paul Hopewell
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Re: [Mac-access]: Problems with touchID on iPhone 5S

2015-04-15 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Mary, there is no need to get defensive.  I didn't say that they wouldn't 
work.  I just said there is no reason to buy them if you already have other 
resources.  I wasn't dismissing your suggestion, and if you took it that 
way, then you definitely read between the lines.  That was so! not what I 
was trying to say.  I'm sorry that you took it that way.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Stores, Mary A. msto...@indiana.edu

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Problems with touchID on iPhone 5S


Well, I personally recommend the wipes because after I use them on the 
iPhone, they make my iPhone feel like it just came out of the Apple 
packaging. Believe me, Christopher, I do have my reasons for recommending 
it. It sucks to read messages like how it's weird we are having problems 
with our iPhones when you don’t have any. And hey, don't waste your time 
on those wipes, either.


Mary


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark 
Gilland

Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 9:54 AM
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Problems with touchID on iPhone 5S

Heck, if you have young  kids who'd need it, don't even waist your time 
buying the  electronic wipes... even just a standard baby wipe will do the 
trick.  Just, if you use one, make sure you only do it on your finger.
Don't do it on the home button itself.  Especially not if the type you're 
using has lotion or aloe etc. in it, as that most likely will make it 
worse.


Chris.

- Original Message -
From: Stores, Mary A. msto...@indiana.edu
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Problems with touchID on iPhone 5S



Hello,

My touch ID is kind of finicky, and I have a 5S running on iOS 8.3 as
well. However, it was finicky before I upgraded. Sometimes I have to try
three or four times before it registers. I have these electronic wipes,
though. The packets come with one wet cloth and one dry cloth. And ever
since I got those, I don't have as much trouble unless my fingers are 
cold

or I've only recently washed and dried them. You can see an example of
these cloths are
http://www.amazon.com/Advantus-Kleen-Screen-Cleaner-REARR1205/dp/B0017D3O20/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1429033646sr=8-1keywords=electronic+wet+and+dry+wipes
 .

Mary


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Paul Hopewell
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 1:29 PM
To: mac-access
Subject: [Mac-access]: Problems with touchID on iPhone 5S

Hello,
I have an iPhone 5S which is about 6 months old and which is currently
running IOS 8.3.

TouchID worked well for the first 4 months or so, but alas is now
unreliable. If I register a new fingerprint it works fine for about 2 
days

and then the finger print is no longer recognised.

Do any listers have tips on the best way to position fingers or thumbs
during the initial fingerprint registration or any other tips on how to
make touchID reliable. I have tried cleaning the home button with a dry
cloth and also tried registering the same finger several times as if they
were all different fingers. Would it help to clean the home button in 
some

other way?

Many thanks for any tips. TouchID is great while it works!

Do any other listers have problems with TouchID on iPhone 5S? Is TouchID
on iPhone 6 reliable?

Best regards….

Paul Hopewell
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Re: [Mac-access]: Some Apple news

2015-04-15 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I would hurt! anyone who touches my Apple TV.  LOL!  Just kidding. 
Seriously though, I have mine going through my high def Yamaha 5.1 surround 
sound receiver, and God do I love it!  Probably one of the best investments 
I've ever made!  I can't wait! to hear what Apple does with the new Apple 
TV.  Do we even have rumor speculations of some of the improvements, even if 
they are not really official?


Chris.

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From: Diane Bomare bomon...@earthlink.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Some Apple news




The current AppleTV model has been out for a few years, and a new one is 
expected to be released in late June or early July. No doubt, it will be 
more expensive, but it may have features that you can't live without, or 
make the current model drop even more.


I love my AppleTV, and have it connected via an optical cable to my stereo 
system. It is easy to use it with its remote or via the iPhone. There is 
no reason to have it connected to a television, if you cannot see the 
screen. VoiceOver is on by default, but, is difficult to turn on, if it is 
turned off at the beginning. At least, without sight, it is difficult to 
get it back, if it is bypassed at the beginning.  Diane Bomar

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 15, 2015, at 13:00, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

Actually the apple tv now cost $69 us. That might be cheaper in england. 
Just letting you know.


Take care.
On Apr 15, 2015, at 9:11 AM, Christopher Hallsworth 
challswor...@icloud.com wrote:


Hi all,
some Apple news. Some products will be purchased in the future which dad 
has allowed me to consider. The first is an Apple TV which is a small 
media streaming box that is connected to your TV and allows you to stream 
anything from media stored in iTunes either for PC or Mac to TV shows and 
movies either purchased from the iTunes Store or streamed from a service 
like Netflix which as of yesterday is now providing audio description. 
The device costs £99.00 UK but extra charges may apply especially if you 
subscribe to services like Netflix which is £6.00/month UK. The second 
product to be considered is the Apple Watch. Dad is hinting I can do 
allsorts from my writs without getting my phone out of my pocket. But 
like I told him it is only compatible with the iPhone 5 and later so this 
will definitely be a future purchase whereas the Apple TV is a near 
future purchase. He sounds really excited that they both talk. If anyone 
has an Apple TV please tell me what you think of it. Thank you in 
advance! Both products were discussed during our pints this afternoon.

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Re: [Mac-access]: Some Apple news

2015-04-15 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

I've not heard the podcast.  What exactly did he demonstrate?

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Leo Bissonnette leo.bissonne...@videotron.ca

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Some Apple news



Hi,

As a follow up on the Apple TV and NetFlicks, can anyone confirm its 
availability in Canada….


David Woodbridge did a great tutorial on AppleVis today and I followed it 
through. Sadly—unless I missed a step in his instructions, I have the 
feeling that Canada is not making audio descriptions available…. Would, as 
I say, really want to confirm this.


Leo



On Apr 15, 2015, at 3:00 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

Actually the apple tv now cost $69 us. That might be cheaper in england. 
Just letting you know.


Take care.
On Apr 15, 2015, at 9:11 AM, Christopher Hallsworth 
challswor...@icloud.com wrote:


Hi all,
some Apple news. Some products will be purchased in the future which dad 
has allowed me to consider. The first is an Apple TV which is a small 
media streaming box that is connected to your TV and allows you to 
stream anything from media stored in iTunes either for PC or Mac to TV 
shows and movies either purchased from the iTunes Store or streamed from 
a service like Netflix which as of yesterday is now providing audio 
description. The device costs £99.00 UK but extra charges may apply 
especially if you subscribe to services like Netflix which is 
£6.00/month UK. The second product to be considered is the Apple Watch. 
Dad is hinting I can do allsorts from my writs without getting my phone 
out of my pocket. But like I told him it is only compatible with the 
iPhone 5 and later so this will definitely be a future purchase whereas 
the Apple TV is a near future purchase. He sounds really excited that 
they both talk. If anyone has an Apple TV please tell me what you think 
of it. Thank you in advance! Both products were discussed during our 
pints this afternoon.

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[Mac-access]: I'm very agrevated! Trying to edit conf files. This is getting old, real fast!

2015-04-09 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Guys,
 
I've got a Linux server which I need to be able to edit a few configuration
files on via SSH.  Yeah, I probably could try to look up a way to download
the files to my mac locally, open them in Text Edit, edit them, then
reupload them to the server as the modified versions, but then you stand a
chance of ownerships getting kurfunctified, and worse, permissions going
screw on me, thus making me have to chmod everything back to normal.  What a
pain in the behaunkis, especially if I don't know the permissions and owner
to start with.  Yeah yeah, I know, I know, ls is my friend.  
 
The problem I'm having is, everything works fine.  I can  use Voiceover all
day long to read the terminal window in detail, but as soon as I go into
nano, or pico, or God forbid, vi/vim, things start getting kind a weird.  As
I arrow in all four directions around the conf file, I find that what is
being read isn't quite normally where my actual cursor is located.  Usually
the insertion point will be either a line above or below, or a character
before or after.  It's quite inconsistent what it does, so I can't exactly
give you a definite pattern.  I've been kind of learning to deal with it,
but it's at the point now, where it is becoming incredibly annoying, and I
do mean, incredibly!  I'm seeing this both on Mavericks, and! on Yosemite.
I definitely do have Voiceover set to read the character that the cursor is
under, not the one it passes.  Obviously, because of this behavior, this
means, if I'm not extra extra careful, I'll wind up either deleting
something I don't mean to, uncommenting things I don't need/want to,
inserting things where they don't belong, or worst case scenareo, totally
booger bucking up the file to the point where I run whatever is attached to
the configuration, and garbage in, garbage out, bad data in, puke comes out.
So, is there really an easy way to consistently via SSH use a text editer to
edit conf files?  If not, then I'm really screwed, I guess, mainly because I
don't have the hardware resources right now to run a full fledged Linux
system, and I'm neither at a position, unfortunately, where I can reliably
run a virtual machine either.  Even if I could, the server I need to access
isn't on my localhost, so I'd have to SSH in anyway, one way or another.
 
Any help is profusely! appreciated.
 
Chris.
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Re: [Mac-access]: is it ok to have many apps running at once?

2015-04-05 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Depends on how much ram you've got.  Unless you start seeing things 
lag/crawl, you should be fine.


Chris.

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Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac

2015-04-04 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Yeah.  Neh.  You'll be fine.  I'm not saying you won't! have to enable the 
midi capability, but most likely you won't.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac


Ah okay, I thought a menu option had to be set on the synth itself to 
enable the MIDI interface.


As for the sound from the Synth? The MX49 is not equipped with internal 
speakers so no problem there smile.




On 5/04/2015 11:55 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Not really, Dane.  The only thing really that you may have to really do 
in the keyboard menus would be to turn off local mode.  and even that's 
technically optional.  In the meantime, if you dont' want to hear things 
out of sync coming out the keyboard's audio output, just turn the volume 
of the keyboard all the way down with it's master volume control.  I 
mean, ok, you might have to go in to the thing and enable the USB midi 
portion of it, although I've never ever in all keyboard/digital 
piano/controllers ever seen the need to do this, so you should be just 
fine.


When I referred to setting your input and output, I was talking about 
setting that on the midi track within Garageband or whatever itself on 
the software side.  You shouldn't need sighted help for that.  That's 
something Voiceover should deal with no problems.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan 
grtd...@internode.on.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac


Yep, I gathered I had to set something and I'm going to have to get some 
sighted assistance to go through the menu system to find that but again, 
all detailed in the manual if details are required, thanks again.




On 5/04/2015 11:09 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Dane, as I said in my e-mail, that's perfect.  That will work 
flawlessly. Just plug the cord from the keyboard to your USB port, and 
boom.  You're done. Obviously, you'll have to go into GB or whatever 
and set your midi in and out device to your keyboard/controller, but 
that's easy enough to do.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan 
grtd...@internode.on.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac


What you said wasn't too detailed, its exactly how MIDI works, even 
the manual of my Yamaha MX49 says nearly as much as you've said, 
enough for the user to know - if they could be bothered reading the 
Introduction to the user manual - that output of sound from the 
keyboard and MIDI I/O are 2 different things, as you say MIDI is a 
controlling interface.


Now this brings me to a question regarding my MX49 which I've been 
meaning to get going for the last 3 months, you know how it is, gets 
put on the list of 50,000 other things that have to be done in the 
next 10 years smile, is the USB port for MIDI access the same as the 
MIDI I/O 5 Pin Din ports on the machine, can I use the supplied USB 
cable that came with the synth for all MIDI controls or do I need to 
purchase an adapter.


Just to simplify things, I plan to be using this keyboard on the Mac 
with garage Band.




On 5/04/2015 9:42 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Sorry for being so detailed.  I just wanted to be sure that you 
understood. You said you wanted to use the built in sounds.  A lot of 
people don't understand that midi in and of itself won't produce 
sounds out the keyboard.


I have a real bad habbit of doing this and giving far more detail 
than necessary, guilty as charged, but I would have hated for you to 
have gotten an answer, then wonderred why just simply plugging a midi 
cable or whatever in wasn't working.


Pardon the novel-writing.  Did you get anything helpful though out of 
my message?  I hope so?


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac


Well, goodness. I didn’t mean anything that detailed. I simply want 
a program that uses pure midi, can export and import midi, and could 
optionally save the midi as mp3. I’ve heard that GarageBand on OS X 
10.10 is inaccessible in some ways, so I simply want a simple, 
easily learned and accessible editor that’ll work with midi so that 
I can just play using the keyboard. I have now, like in the last 
hour, gone through the keyboard’s array of sounds and found them a 
little low quality, the keyboard is an older model, so I may just 
play using the keyboard then export to mp3 or something then all the 
tracks are good and all, so that’s what I want to do.
On Apr 4, 2015, at 5:20 PM, Christopher-Mark

Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac

2015-04-04 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Dane, as I said in my e-mail, that's perfect.  That will work flawlessly. 
Just plug the cord from the keyboard to your USB port, and boom.  You're 
done.  Obviously, you'll have to go into GB or whatever and set your midi in 
and out device to your keyboard/controller, but that's easy enough to do.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac


What you said wasn't too detailed, its exactly how MIDI works, even the 
manual of my Yamaha MX49 says nearly as much as you've said, enough for 
the user to know - if they could be bothered reading the Introduction to 
the user manual - that output of sound from the keyboard and MIDI I/O are 
2 different things, as you say MIDI is a controlling interface.


Now this brings me to a question regarding my MX49 which I've been meaning 
to get going for the last 3 months, you know how it is, gets put on the 
list of 50,000 other things that have to be done in the next 10 years 
smile, is the USB port for MIDI access the same as the MIDI I/O 5 Pin 
Din ports on the machine, can I use the supplied USB cable that came with 
the synth for all MIDI controls or do I need to purchase an adapter.


Just to simplify things, I plan to be using this keyboard on the Mac with 
garage Band.




On 5/04/2015 9:42 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Sorry for being so detailed.  I just wanted to be sure that you 
understood. You said you wanted to use the built in sounds.  A lot of 
people don't understand that midi in and of itself won't produce sounds 
out the keyboard.


I have a real bad habbit of doing this and giving far more detail than 
necessary, guilty as charged, but I would have hated for you to have 
gotten an answer, then wonderred why just simply plugging a midi cable or 
whatever in wasn't working.


Pardon the novel-writing.  Did you get anything helpful though out of my 
message?  I hope so?


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac


Well, goodness. I didn’t mean anything that detailed. I simply want a 
program that uses pure midi, can export and import midi, and could 
optionally save the midi as mp3. I’ve heard that GarageBand on OS X 
10.10 is inaccessible in some ways, so I simply want a simple, easily 
learned and accessible editor that’ll work with midi so that I can just 
play using the keyboard. I have now, like in the last hour, gone through 
the keyboard’s array of sounds and found them a little low quality, the 
keyboard is an older model, so I may just play using the keyboard then 
export to mp3 or something then all the tracks are good and all, so that’s 
what I want to do.
On Apr 4, 2015, at 5:20 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


You're talking two totally different things here.

Let's get one thing totally straight.  Midi isn't audio.  All that midi 
basically is are different numerical values for certain triggered 
events, with 1's and 0's attached to it. Basically 0 means the event is 
off, while 1 means it is on. Every single thing you do with the 
keyboard is associated with a midi event, as they are called.  I 
understand this isn't what you're asking, but to answer your question, 
I have to define this, so you'll understand in a second where I am 
going with this.  So what happens with midi is, these events are sent 
to your midi hardware or software controller either on the input, or on 
the output side.  Trust me with this, I am an audio engineer, so I know 
what I'm  talking about, believe me.  I've done this stuff for years. 
Not saying I'm God, and know everything, cause I definitely don't, but 
this much, I do! know.


OK, so with all of that said, let's address your question at hand... 
The short answer is, Garageband will definitely do midi.  If you don't 
plan to record, but just want to play, then Audacity or even Main Stage 
might be your best bet.  The thing however is, just know that if you 
want to get the sounds from your keyboard, it may take a little more 
work.  First of all, does your keyboard have built in speakers?  If 
not, you'll need to somehow get the keyboard going to a line source 
like the line in of your mac, or to a mixer etc.  I don't know your 
setup, so it's kind of hard for me to really determine e everything 
right up front without more info.


You're going to most likely need a midi to USB converter, because 
obviously, the mac doesn't have built in round midi in and out and 
through ports. There is a nice device called the midi Uno that would 
work with this. Basically, it's a Y cable.  One end has 3 of the male 
round plugs.  One for in, one for out, and one for through.  So, you'd 
connect that end

Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac

2015-04-04 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Not really, Dane.  The only thing really that you may have to really do in 
the keyboard menus would be to turn off local mode.  and even that's 
technically optional.  In the meantime, if you dont' want to hear things out 
of sync coming out the keyboard's audio output, just turn the volume of the 
keyboard all the way down with it's master volume control.  I mean, ok, you 
might have to go in to the thing and enable the USB midi portion of it, 
although I've never ever in all keyboard/digital piano/controllers ever seen 
the need to do this, so you should be just fine.


When I referred to setting your input and output, I was talking about 
setting that on the midi track within Garageband or whatever itself on the 
software side.  You shouldn't need sighted help for that.  That's something 
Voiceover should deal with no problems.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac


Yep, I gathered I had to set something and I'm going to have to get some 
sighted assistance to go through the menu system to find that but again, 
all detailed in the manual if details are required, thanks again.




On 5/04/2015 11:09 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Dane, as I said in my e-mail, that's perfect.  That will work flawlessly. 
Just plug the cord from the keyboard to your USB port, and boom.  You're 
done.  Obviously, you'll have to go into GB or whatever and set your midi 
in and out device to your keyboard/controller, but that's easy enough to 
do.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan 
grtd...@internode.on.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac


What you said wasn't too detailed, its exactly how MIDI works, even the 
manual of my Yamaha MX49 says nearly as much as you've said, enough for 
the user to know - if they could be bothered reading the Introduction to 
the user manual - that output of sound from the keyboard and MIDI I/O 
are 2 different things, as you say MIDI is a controlling interface.


Now this brings me to a question regarding my MX49 which I've been 
meaning to get going for the last 3 months, you know how it is, gets put 
on the list of 50,000 other things that have to be done in the next 10 
years smile, is the USB port for MIDI access the same as the MIDI I/O 
5 Pin Din ports on the machine, can I use the supplied USB cable that 
came with the synth for all MIDI controls or do I need to purchase an 
adapter.


Just to simplify things, I plan to be using this keyboard on the Mac 
with garage Band.




On 5/04/2015 9:42 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Sorry for being so detailed.  I just wanted to be sure that you 
understood. You said you wanted to use the built in sounds.  A lot of 
people don't understand that midi in and of itself won't produce sounds 
out the keyboard.


I have a real bad habbit of doing this and giving far more detail than 
necessary, guilty as charged, but I would have hated for you to have 
gotten an answer, then wonderred why just simply plugging a midi cable 
or whatever in wasn't working.


Pardon the novel-writing.  Did you get anything helpful though out of 
my message?  I hope so?


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac


Well, goodness. I didn’t mean anything that detailed. I simply want a 
program that uses pure midi, can export and import midi, and could 
optionally save the midi as mp3. I’ve heard that GarageBand on OS X 
10.10 is inaccessible in some ways, so I simply want a simple, easily 
learned and accessible editor that’ll work with midi so that I can 
just play using the keyboard. I have now, like in the last hour, gone 
through the keyboard’s array of sounds and found them a little low 
quality, the keyboard is an older model, so I may just play using the 
keyboard then export to mp3 or something then all the tracks are good 
and all, so that’s what I want to do.
On Apr 4, 2015, at 5:20 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


You're talking two totally different things here.

Let's get one thing totally straight.  Midi isn't audio. All that 
midi basically is are different numerical values for certain 
triggered events, with 1's and 0's attached to it. Basically 0 means 
the event is off, while 1 means it is on. Every single thing you do 
with the keyboard is associated with a midi event, as they are 
called.  I understand this isn't what you're asking, but to answer 
your question, I have to define this, so you'll understand in a 
second where I am going with this.  So what happens with midi

Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac

2015-04-04 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Yeah, aside from Garageband, I really don't know of anything that is just 
midi that could do only basic midi functions as what I use obviously, with 
ProTools is a full fledged DAW.  Plus, for what it sounds like you need, it 
would not only ouch your wallet, but would be way! and I mean escrutiatingly 
way! overkill!


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac


Yes, I just need to know of a program that is like Quick Windows Sequencer 
for the mac, if you’re familiar with QWS.
On Apr 4, 2015, at 6:42 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


Sorry for being so detailed.  I just wanted to be sure that you 
understood. You said you wanted to use the built in sounds.  A lot of 
people don't understand that midi in and of itself won't produce sounds 
out the keyboard.


I have a real bad habbit of doing this and giving far more detail than 
necessary, guilty as charged, but I would have hated for you to have 
gotten an answer, then wonderred why just simply plugging a midi cable or 
whatever in wasn't working.


Pardon the novel-writing.  Did you get anything helpful though out of my 
message?  I hope so?


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac


Well, goodness. I didn’t mean anything that detailed. I simply want a 
program that uses pure midi, can export and import midi, and could 
optionally save the midi as mp3. I’ve heard that GarageBand on OS X 
10.10 is inaccessible in some ways, so I simply want a simple, easily 
learned and accessible editor that’ll work with midi so that I can just 
play using the keyboard. I have now, like in the last hour, gone through 
the keyboard’s array of sounds and found them a little low quality, the 
keyboard is an older model, so I may just play using the keyboard then 
export to mp3 or something then all the tracks are good and all, so that’s 
what I want to do.
On Apr 4, 2015, at 5:20 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


You're talking two totally different things here.

Let's get one thing totally straight.  Midi isn't audio.  All that midi 
basically is are different numerical values for certain triggered 
events, with 1's and 0's attached to it.  Basically 0 means the event 
is off, while 1 means it is on.  Every single thing you do with the 
keyboard is associated with a midi event, as they are called.  I 
understand this isn't what you're asking, but to answer your question, 
I have to define this, so you'll understand in a second where I am 
going with this.  So what happens with midi is, these events are sent 
to your midi hardware or software controller either on the input, or on 
the output side.  Trust me with this, I am an audio engineer, so I know 
what I'm  talking about, believe me.  I've done this stuff for years. 
Not saying I'm God, and know everything, cause I definitely don't, but 
this much, I do! know.


OK, so with all of that said, let's address your question at hand... 
The short answer is, Garageband will definitely do midi.  If you don't 
plan to record, but just want to play, then Audacity or even Main Stage 
might be your best bet.  The thing however is, just know that if you 
want to get the sounds from your keyboard, it may take a little more 
work.  First of all, does your keyboard have built in speakers?  If 
not, you'll need to somehow get the keyboard going to a line source 
like the line in of your mac, or to a mixer etc.  I don't know your 
setup, so it's kind of hard for me to really determine e everything 
right up front without more info.


You're going to most likely need a midi to USB converter, because 
obviously, the mac doesn't have built in round midi in and out and 
through ports. There is a nice device called the midi Uno that would 
work with this. Basically, it's a Y cable.  One end has 3 of the male 
round plugs.  One for in, one for out, and one for through.  So, you'd 
connect that end to your keyboard, and leave the through cable dangling 
if you don't have a through port on the keyboard... it won't hurt 
anything.  The other end is a standard USB plug.  That would go into 
the USB port on your mac.  I think they're somewhere like around $50 or 
so.  Amazong should have them.  I've had mine for about 5 years now, so 
I can't tell ya if they still exist, but, I'd definitely look.


If your keyboard actually connects via USB, not the round midi plugs, 
then just use a standard plug and play USB cable, and you'll be good to 
go.


If you want to then play midi with the built in instruments, then 
you'll open up your DAW, (Digital Audio workstation,) of choice, be it 
Garageband, Audacity, whatever

Re: [Mac-access]: does any one know of a way of un zipping things onthe mac?

2015-04-04 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
So, try this then.  Find the zip file in your finder, and hit command+O on 
it.  Then explore the same directory with the zip file.  Does it not on your 
end create a folder right there along with the zip file of the extracted 
content?  It definitely should.  If it doesn't, then tell us what it's doing 
instead, so we can further help you out.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: wui chin Leong adrianleon...@icloud.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: does any one know of a way of un zipping things 
onthe mac?




yep it is a unzip file with Skype sounds in it
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Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac

2015-04-04 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Oh my God!  it's so funny you'd mention that about Reaper.  I just! 
literally! just! like not even 3 minutes, literally! ago wrote the Reapers 
Without Peapers e-mail list to let them know that I tried Reaper just now on 
the Mac, and oh?... my... God!  Ab, suh, lootly? beautiful!  I honestly on 
the mac side didn't have very high hopes, however, it is simply put in one 
word:  Gorgeous!  I don't think even one single element wasn't correctly 
labeled.  Even the track strips themselves and all of the settings within 
them are totally! accessibly adjustable.  Needless to say, though I still 
intend to use ProTools primarily, and not Reaper for now, I have bought 
Reaper and now have it both on my mac, and my Windows machine and am 
incredibly impressed on both sides of the fence.  I'd highly highly 
recommend you all try it out!  There is a 60 day trial, so it's not like you 
have to buy it right now today.  Then, after that, it's only $60! 
Considerring it's a full fledged DAW, and yes, it does do midi, though I 
haven't yet worked out exactly how, in comparison to Logic X, or ProTools, 
this is an absolutely brilliant! solution.  No ILok or anything stupid like 
that either.  Just a simple key that gets e-mail to you.  You either can 
copy and paste it, or, they even attach a file to an e-mail for you which 
you can browse for, and import which automatically will unlock it for you.


I'm simply over here now salivating!

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac



I wonder if Reaper would be any help? I'm not up with MIDI stuff.



On 5/04/2015 10:12 AM, Devin Prater wrote:
Yes, I just need to know of a program that is like Quick Windows 
Sequencer for the mac, if you’re familiar with QWS.
On Apr 4, 2015, at 6:42 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


Sorry for being so detailed.  I just wanted to be sure that you 
understood. You said you wanted to use the built in sounds.  A lot of 
people don't understand that midi in and of itself won't produce sounds 
out the keyboard.


I have a real bad habbit of doing this and giving far more detail than 
necessary, guilty as charged, but I would have hated for you to have 
gotten an answer, then wonderred why just simply plugging a midi cable 
or whatever in wasn't working.


Pardon the novel-writing.  Did you get anything helpful though out of my 
message?  I hope so?


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac


Well, goodness. I didn’t mean anything that detailed. I simply want a 
program that uses pure midi, can export and import midi, and could 
optionally save the midi as mp3. I’ve heard that GarageBand on OS X 
10.10 is inaccessible in some ways, so I simply want a simple, easily 
learned and accessible editor that’ll work with midi so that I can just 
play using the keyboard. I have now, like in the last hour, gone 
through the keyboard’s array of sounds and found them a little low 
quality, the keyboard is an older model, so I may just play using the 
keyboard then export to mp3 or something then all the tracks are good 
and all, so that’s what I want to do.
On Apr 4, 2015, at 5:20 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


You're talking two totally different things here.

Let's get one thing totally straight.  Midi isn't audio.  All that 
midi basically is are different numerical values for certain triggered 
events, with 1's and 0's attached to it.  Basically 0 means the event 
is off, while 1 means it is on.  Every single thing you do with the 
keyboard is associated with a midi event, as they are called.  I 
understand this isn't what you're asking, but to answer your question, 
I have to define this, so you'll understand in a second where I am 
going with this.  So what happens with midi is, these events are sent 
to your midi hardware or software controller either on the input, or 
on the output side.  Trust me with this, I am an audio engineer, so I 
know what I'm  talking about, believe me.  I've done this stuff for 
years.  Not saying I'm God, and know everything, cause I definitely 
don't, but this much, I do! know.


OK, so with all of that said, let's address your question at hand... 
The short answer is, Garageband will definitely do midi.  If you don't 
plan to record, but just want to play, then Audacity or even Main 
Stage might be your best bet.  The thing however is, just know that if 
you want to get the sounds from your keyboard, it may take a little 
more work.  First of all, does your keyboard have built in speakers? 
If not, you'll need to somehow get the keyboard going to a line source 
like the line in of your

Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac

2015-04-04 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

You're talking two totally different things here.

Let's get one thing totally straight.  Midi isn't audio.  All that midi 
basically is are different numerical values for certain triggered events, 
with 1's and 0's attached to it.  Basically 0 means the event is off, while 
1 means it is on.  Every single thing you do with the keyboard is associated 
with a midi event, as they are called.  I understand this isn't what you're 
asking, but to answer your question, I have to define this, so you'll 
understand in a second where I am going with this.  So what happens with 
midi is, these events are sent to your midi hardware or software controller 
either on the input, or on the output side.  Trust me with this, I am an 
audio engineer, so I know what I'm  talking about, believe me.  I've done 
this stuff for years.  Not saying I'm God, and know everything, cause I 
definitely don't, but this much, I do! know.


OK, so with all of that said, let's address your question at hand...  The 
short answer is, Garageband will definitely do midi.  If you don't plan to 
record, but just want to play, then Audacity or even Main Stage might be 
your best bet.  The thing however is, just know that if you want to get the 
sounds from your keyboard, it may take a little more work.  First of all, 
does your keyboard have built in speakers?  If not, you'll need to somehow 
get the keyboard going to a line source like the line in of your mac, or to 
a mixer etc.  I don't know your setup, so it's kind of hard for me to really 
determine e everything right up front without more info.


You're going to most likely need a midi to USB converter, because obviously, 
the mac doesn't have built in round midi in and out and through ports. 
There is a nice device called the midi Uno that would work with this. 
Basically, it's a Y cable.  One end has 3 of the male round plugs.  One for 
in, one for out, and one for through.  So, you'd connect that end to your 
keyboard, and leave the through cable dangling if you don't have a through 
port on the keyboard... it won't hurt anything.  The other end is a standard 
USB plug.  That would go into the USB port on your mac.  I think they're 
somewhere like around $50 or so.  Amazong should have them.  I've had mine 
for about 5 years now, so I can't tell ya if they still exist, but, I'd 
definitely look.


If your keyboard actually connects via USB, not the round midi plugs, then 
just use a standard plug and play USB cable, and you'll be good to go.


If you want to then play midi with the built in instruments, then you'll 
open up your DAW, (Digital Audio workstation,) of choice, be it Garageband, 
Audacity, whatever, and you'll want to set your midi output to your keyboard 
midi controller.  So, if you're using an Uno, or some sort of midi to USB 
converter, it should, provided you have the drivers properly installed, show 
up in your output list.  You'd just pick it, and boom, you're done.  Now 
you'll play the midi file just like you normally would and it then should 
come out your keyboard speakers, or if no speakers, it'll get routed to your 
keyboard's line out/headphone out which you then have fed back into a line 
in source of some type.


If you wanna record using the sounds in the keyboard, this gets a little 
more complecated.  Basically, keeping it general, and elementary, you'd 
need, even if there are! built in speakers, to connect a stereo patch cable 
to the line out, preferred, or if you don't have one, the headphone jack of 
the keyboard, and the other end into a channel on your interface/mixer, or 
if you don't have one, then directly to your line in on the mac.  Fire up 
your DAW of choice.  Open the midi file, or record it like normal, then in 
your project, create a stereo audio track for your final master mix, arm it 
for recording if needed, then making sure none of your midi tracks are 
armed, so you don't accidentally record over them, hit record in the 
software of your choice, and then basically allow the midi to play through 
your keyboard, and get routed out the keyboard to the line in of your 
mixer/interface/line in jack on the mac, therefore capturing that audio and 
recording it to the stereo audio track you just created.  Then, once done, 
delete all the midi tracks from the project, leaving only the one audio 
track, and then mix/bounce/render, however the DAW calls it, it down to 
either a wave file, or an mp3.  Preferably a wave file, so that it won't be 
compressed or with any artifacts.  You can later go back and encode that 
wave to an mp3 file, if it be needed.


I do offer tech support on this type thing, so if you need help, give me a 
call on Monday, and I can definitely help you with this.  My rates are $15 
an hour, or $25 flat rate for unlimited tech support during business hours 
for one whole month.  I take PayPal, and I also can over the phone process 
Visa and Mastercards if it be a last resort.  I prefer PayPal though as the 
other way can 

Re: [Mac-access]: does any one know of a way of un zipping things onthe mac?

2015-04-04 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
It should automatically do this.  Just hit command+O on the zip file, and it 
will extract to it's own folder within the same folder as the .zip file.


Now, this said, there are! yes, apps to do this that are really really good. 
I personally love The Unarchiver.  As far as I know, yes, it is indeed in 
the mac app store, and is free the last I looked.  What I love about this 
app is a few things.  Firstly, I love that you can actually configure it to 
ask you each time you command+O on a file, where you want it to extract. 
So, say you didn't want it going into the same directory as the actual zip 
file.  No problem!  OSX natively won't let you do this.  The other thing 
about it I love is it supports unzipping of password protected zip files, as 
well as other formats like tarballs, tar.gz's, tar.bz2's, RAR's, 7z's, etc.


Pardon my language, but it's a damn! nice utility!

Chris.

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Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 6:04 PM
Subject: [Mac-access]: does any one know of a way of un zipping things onthe 
mac?




does any one know of a app that will unzip tthings to the mac?
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Re: [Mac-access]: does any one know of a way of un zipping things onthe mac?

2015-04-04 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Awesome, let me know how you turn out.  Oh wait, we're not cooking you, that 
sounds like we are.  LOL!  Just kidding.  Sorry, I couldn't resist. 
Seriously though, Hahaha, let me know if you need any further assistance.


Chris.

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From: wui chin Leong adrianleon...@icloud.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: does any one know of a way of un zipping things 
onthe mac?




cool i will look for that.
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Re: [Mac-access]: does any one know how i can add custom sounds toSkype?

2015-04-04 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I'd need to check, as I know with the Windows version, you definitely can, 
but I can't recall if the option is also there on the Mac version.  I seem 
to remember that it was.  Basically, it's going to be in one of two places, 
if it's there.  Actually, no, excuse me.  One of three places.  Go into 
Skype preferences, obviously with Command+Comma.  In here, go up and 
interact with the toolbar to get to your tabs.  We want to look first at the 
sounds tab.  See in there if there is a way to select and browse to a wave 
file on your system of your choice for each event.  If not, then let's go 
back up to the toolbar, and have a gander in the notifications tab.  If not 
there either, then the only other place would be in the toolbar, go to the 
Advanced tab.  If it's not there, then I'm sorry to say, you're most likely 
then out of luck, short of *maybe!* manually editting a PList preference 
file... Oh!  Joy!... Not?


Chris.

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Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 7:00 PM
Subject: [Mac-access]: does any one know how i can add custom sounds 
toSkype?




does any one know of a way i can add custom sounds to skype
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Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac

2015-04-04 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sorry for being so detailed.  I just wanted to be sure that you understood. 
You said you wanted to use the built in sounds.  A lot of people don't 
understand that midi in and of itself won't produce sounds out the keyboard.


I have a real bad habbit of doing this and giving far more detail than 
necessary, guilty as charged, but I would have hated for you to have gotten 
an answer, then wonderred why just simply plugging a midi cable or whatever 
in wasn't working.


Pardon the novel-writing.  Did you get anything helpful though out of my 
message?  I hope so?


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac


Well, goodness. I didn’t mean anything that detailed. I simply want a 
program that uses pure midi, can export and import midi, and could 
optionally save the midi as mp3. I’ve heard that GarageBand on OS X 10.10 
is inaccessible in some ways, so I simply want a simple, easily learned 
and accessible editor that’ll work with midi so that I can just play using 
the keyboard. I have now, like in the last hour, gone through the keyboard’s 
array of sounds and found them a little low quality, the keyboard is an 
older model, so I may just play using the keyboard then export to mp3 or 
something then all the tracks are good and all, so that’s what I want to 
do.
On Apr 4, 2015, at 5:20 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


You're talking two totally different things here.

Let's get one thing totally straight.  Midi isn't audio.  All that midi 
basically is are different numerical values for certain triggered events, 
with 1's and 0's attached to it.  Basically 0 means the event is off, 
while 1 means it is on.  Every single thing you do with the keyboard is 
associated with a midi event, as they are called.  I understand this 
isn't what you're asking, but to answer your question, I have to define 
this, so you'll understand in a second where I am going with this.  So 
what happens with midi is, these events are sent to your midi hardware or 
software controller either on the input, or on the output side.  Trust me 
with this, I am an audio engineer, so I know what I'm  talking about, 
believe me.  I've done this stuff for years.  Not saying I'm God, and 
know everything, cause I definitely don't, but this much, I do! know.


OK, so with all of that said, let's address your question at hand...  The 
short answer is, Garageband will definitely do midi.  If you don't plan 
to record, but just want to play, then Audacity or even Main Stage might 
be your best bet.  The thing however is, just know that if you want to 
get the sounds from your keyboard, it may take a little more work.  First 
of all, does your keyboard have built in speakers?  If not, you'll need 
to somehow get the keyboard going to a line source like the line in of 
your mac, or to a mixer etc.  I don't know your setup, so it's kind of 
hard for me to really determine e everything right up front without more 
info.


You're going to most likely need a midi to USB converter, because 
obviously, the mac doesn't have built in round midi in and out and 
through ports. There is a nice device called the midi Uno that would work 
with this. Basically, it's a Y cable.  One end has 3 of the male round 
plugs.  One for in, one for out, and one for through.  So, you'd connect 
that end to your keyboard, and leave the through cable dangling if you 
don't have a through port on the keyboard... it won't hurt anything.  The 
other end is a standard USB plug.  That would go into the USB port on 
your mac.  I think they're somewhere like around $50 or so.  Amazong 
should have them.  I've had mine for about 5 years now, so I can't tell 
ya if they still exist, but, I'd definitely look.


If your keyboard actually connects via USB, not the round midi plugs, 
then just use a standard plug and play USB cable, and you'll be good to 
go.


If you want to then play midi with the built in instruments, then you'll 
open up your DAW, (Digital Audio workstation,) of choice, be it 
Garageband, Audacity, whatever, and you'll want to set your midi output 
to your keyboard midi controller.  So, if you're using an Uno, or some 
sort of midi to USB converter, it should, provided you have the drivers 
properly installed, show up in your output list.  You'd just pick it, and 
boom, you're done.  Now you'll play the midi file just like you normally 
would and it then should come out your keyboard speakers, or if no 
speakers, it'll get routed to your keyboard's line out/headphone out 
which you then have fed back into a line in source of some type.


If you wanna record using the sounds in the keyboard, this gets a little 
more complecated.  Basically, keeping it general, and elementary, you'd 
need, even if there are! built in speakers, to connect a stereo patch 
cable

Re: [Mac-access]: does any one know of a way of un zipping things onthe mac?

2015-04-04 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
What do you mean?  Is this basically like a zip file which has various 
sounds you need to unzip to use within Skype?  Sorry, I just don't totally 
get your dilimma.  Nevertheless, The Unarchiver should be able to do it no 
problem.  Realize though that if it's simply just a .zip file, OSX already 
can do this.


Chris.

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To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: does any one know of a way of un zipping things 
onthe mac?




i need help unzipping Skype sounds
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Re: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App

2015-03-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
You and I talked way way way back in the days via phone.  It's been quite a 
while, but I have a good memory.


Sorry, I was just making a point.  Didn't mean to stir up an awquard 
feeling.  You asked me if I knew, and I said no.  that seemed to be the 
logical thing to do was get him, or someone else to help you look.


If you're angry at my comment, I'm sorry, dono what to tell ya.
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From: Glenn / Lenny glenner...@cableone.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App



Chris,
How did you remember that my son's name is Alexander?
Glenn
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From: Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App


You know Glenn, I'm honestly not totally sure.  You'll have to get 
Alexander

or someone sighted to look.  I'm sorry.  I don't have anyone near me right
now who can, or else I'd find out.  sorry about that.

Chris.
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From: Glenn / Lenny glenner...@cableone.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App



Cool, thanks, that's simple enough.
When you hit the space, does it insert a space too?
That would not be good for eMail addresses.
Glenn
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To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App


OK, let me grab my IPhone so I can talk you through this correctly...

1.  Go to Settings.

2.  Double tap on General.

3.  Double tap on Keyboard.

4.  Double tap on Shorttcuts

5.  Double tap on add, which is in the top right corner, yes you can 
flick

to it if needed.

6.  Now you're in the phraise field, so simply type in your e-mail 
address

in completion.

7.  Next, double tap in the Shortcut optional field, then type in
something
like GPEM or whatever you want to type to expand to your address.

8.  Now, upper right corner, double tap on save.

There you go.

Now, to make this work and test it out, put yourself into a text field.
Doesn't matter where, just get focus moved inside one.  Now type your
shortcut text.  You'll need to then afterward hit the space bar.  It 
won't

expand until you do so.

Chris.
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From: Glenn / Lenny glenner...@cableone.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App



Hi Chris,
That sounds good, you could send me the steps, and I should be good to 
go

with that.
Thanks much.
Glenn
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To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App


Glenn,

You are! aware, are you not, that if you don't like typing your e-mail
address, you can set up a shortcut, so you would type for example, GPEM,
which stands for Glenn's personal E-mail.  Then, once you hit the 
space

bar, it would expand to your entire e-mail address.

Let me know if you'd like some help setting this up.

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From: Glenn / Lenny glenner...@cableone.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 12:55 PM
Subject: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App



Hi,
I was just wondering, from the users of the Be My Eyes app on IOS.
Should one have to put in their eMail and password each time we use it?
For those who have difficulty typing on their device, it makes it
useless,
and I'm not fond of typing in my eMail and password each time I use it.
I have worked with others to use it successfully, and they have had to
enter
their information each time.
I tried mine today, and it has been so long since I used it, I don't
even
remember which eMail account I used on it.
Thanks for any feedback.
Glenn

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Re: [Mac-access]: does any one know how i can uninstall a app fromthemac?

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Just... what?
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Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 6:19 PM
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just… And send it to trash.



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it would be easier if i had some help over skype
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Re: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App

2015-03-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Sarah,

Thanks for the clarification on this.

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Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App


I think it does. This is why I baught text expander when it was on sale. 
You can have it insert a delimiter or not when expanding.


Good luck.
On Mar 28, 2015, at 3:08 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


You know Glenn, I'm honestly not totally sure.  You'll have to get 
Alexander or someone sighted to look.  I'm sorry.  I don't have anyone 
near me right now who can, or else I'd find out.  sorry about that.


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- Original Message - From: Glenn / Lenny 
glenner...@cableone.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App



Cool, thanks, that's simple enough.
When you hit the space, does it insert a space too?
That would not be good for eMail addresses.
Glenn
- Original Message - From: Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App


OK, let me grab my IPhone so I can talk you through this correctly...

1.  Go to Settings.

2.  Double tap on General.

3.  Double tap on Keyboard.

4.  Double tap on Shorttcuts

5.  Double tap on add, which is in the top right corner, yes you can 
flick

to it if needed.

6.  Now you're in the phraise field, so simply type in your e-mail 
address

in completion.

7.  Next, double tap in the Shortcut optional field, then type in 
something

like GPEM or whatever you want to type to expand to your address.

8.  Now, upper right corner, double tap on save.

There you go.

Now, to make this work and test it out, put yourself into a text field.
Doesn't matter where, just get focus moved inside one.  Now type your
shortcut text.  You'll need to then afterward hit the space bar.  It 
won't

expand until you do so.

Chris.
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- Original Message - From: Glenn / Lenny 
glenner...@cableone.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App



Hi Chris,
That sounds good, you could send me the steps, and I should be good to 
go

with that.
Thanks much.
Glenn
- Original Message - From: Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App


Glenn,

You are! aware, are you not, that if you don't like typing your e-mail
address, you can set up a shortcut, so you would type for example, 
GPEM,
which stands for Glenn's personal E-mail.  Then, once you hit the 
space

bar, it would expand to your entire e-mail address.

Let me know if you'd like some help setting this up.

Chris.
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- Original Message - From: Glenn / Lenny 
glenner...@cableone.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 12:55 PM
Subject: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App



Hi,
I was just wondering, from the users of the Be My Eyes app on IOS.
Should one have to put in their eMail and password each time we use 
it?

For those who have difficulty typing on their device, it makes it
useless,
and I'm not fond of typing in my eMail and password each time I use 
it.

I have worked with others to use it successfully, and they have had to
enter
their information each time.
I tried mine today, and it has been so long since I used it, I don't 
even

remember which eMail account I used on it.
Thanks for any feedback.
Glenn

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Re: [Mac-access]: does any one know how i can uninstall a app from themac?

2015-03-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Adrian,

It really depends on the app.  Most 95% of the time, all that you need to do 
is find it in your applications directory through your finder, then press 
command+delete on it.  This should move it to the trash.


Beware that this may or may not totally remove it.  It depends on if there 
are preference files left behind.


I personally recommend that you go to google, and do a search for an app 
called App Trap.  I've found that it does the work of removing all those 
preferences files, if you want to do that as well.  Otherwise, it's kind of 
hit and miss.


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Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 5:28 PM
Subject: [Mac-access]: does any one know how i can uninstall a app from 
themac?




does any one know how i can unstable app from the mac
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Re: [Mac-access]: does any one know how i can uninstall a appfromthemac?

2015-03-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Oh, LOL!

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Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 6:23 PM
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sorry I was dictating and voice-over left out the word delete!



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Just... what?
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Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: does any one know how i can uninstall a app 
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just… And send it to trash.



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it would be easier if i had some help over skype
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Re: [Mac-access]: does any one know how i can uninstall aappfromthemac?

2015-03-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sarah, I've been using No Sleep since 2012, and never even once have had 
even the slightest issue with it.


In fact, it's one of the apps I personally most prefer having.

Can you be more specific on what you mean about the ventilation structure?

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Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: does any one know how i can uninstall 
aappfromthemac?



Ok, try this. from anyware in the finder type cmd shift G. Note that also 
works in the open dialogue as well.

afterwhich type in the following path. Copy and paste this line
~/library

It does to have to be upper case.

Now find preference pains, and find the no sleep one. I  do a cmd option f 
to search for no sleep.

After you do that hit cmd back space to move it to  the trash.

Btw I would not recommend no  sleep because of the way the ventilation 
system is designed. You will melt your mac in to scrap if not careful.


Take care.
On Mar 28, 2015, at 3:33 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
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I was dictating on my iPhone and using Alex and I often find that Alex 
does not get what I say correctly.




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Oh, LOL!

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sorry I was dictating and voice-over left out the word delete!



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Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: does any one know how i can uninstall a app 
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just… And send it to trash.



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Re: [Mac-access]: does any one know how i can uninstall a appfromthemac?

2015-03-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I was downstairs eating dinner, so if you tried Skyping me, my dearest 
apology.  I'm available now though, if you didn't get this figured out.


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Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 7:36 PM
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appfromthemac?




i tried that
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Re: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App

2015-03-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
You know Glenn, I'm honestly not totally sure.  You'll have to get Alexander 
or someone sighted to look.  I'm sorry.  I don't have anyone near me right 
now who can, or else I'd find out.  sorry about that.


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From: Glenn / Lenny glenner...@cableone.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App



Cool, thanks, that's simple enough.
When you hit the space, does it insert a space too?
That would not be good for eMail addresses.
Glenn
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Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App


OK, let me grab my IPhone so I can talk you through this correctly...

1.  Go to Settings.

2.  Double tap on General.

3.  Double tap on Keyboard.

4.  Double tap on Shorttcuts

5.  Double tap on add, which is in the top right corner, yes you can flick
to it if needed.

6.  Now you're in the phraise field, so simply type in your e-mail address
in completion.

7.  Next, double tap in the Shortcut optional field, then type in 
something

like GPEM or whatever you want to type to expand to your address.

8.  Now, upper right corner, double tap on save.

There you go.

Now, to make this work and test it out, put yourself into a text field.
Doesn't matter where, just get focus moved inside one.  Now type your
shortcut text.  You'll need to then afterward hit the space bar.  It won't
expand until you do so.

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Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App



Hi Chris,
That sounds good, you could send me the steps, and I should be good to go
with that.
Thanks much.
Glenn
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Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App


Glenn,

You are! aware, are you not, that if you don't like typing your e-mail
address, you can set up a shortcut, so you would type for example, GPEM,
which stands for Glenn's personal E-mail.  Then, once you hit the space
bar, it would expand to your entire e-mail address.

Let me know if you'd like some help setting this up.

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From: Glenn / Lenny glenner...@cableone.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 12:55 PM
Subject: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App



Hi,
I was just wondering, from the users of the Be My Eyes app on IOS.
Should one have to put in their eMail and password each time we use it?
For those who have difficulty typing on their device, it makes it
useless,
and I'm not fond of typing in my eMail and password each time I use it.
I have worked with others to use it successfully, and they have had to
enter
their information each time.
I tried mine today, and it has been so long since I used it, I don't 
even

remember which eMail account I used on it.
Thanks for any feedback.
Glenn

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Re: [Mac-access]: does any one know how i can uninstallaappfromthemac?

2015-03-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sarah, I'm not doubting you at all, but I don't seem to be able to feel any 
air coming out at all where you described.  Is it something you really do 
have to concentrate to feel?  I know it's not gonna feel like a leaf blower, 
LOL!  god forbid, but I literally feel nothing.  Could it just be that my 
sence of feel is not sensitive enough to notice it?  I do find that my hands 
are not always the most sensitive, so that could admittedly be the case.


My macs have gotten warm, yes, but never to the point of over heating.  The 
only time that happened with me was once when running a private seed beta of 
OSX, but being those seeds are governed by NDA, that's really all I can say 
regarding that.


Again, I don't doubt you.  I'm simply just saying I can't feel anything when 
I try, and was wonderring if it's normal that I may not.  Should it be quite 
easy to tell?


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To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: does any one know how i can 
uninstallaappfromthemac?



I read schematics on the ventilation system and it is located at the hinge 
where the monitor is . the place where the top panel ends and the monitor 
begins. You can feel the air coming out if you are  paying attention. I 
tried no sleep then to and just about panicked when my mac, and others got 
very very hot. there's no ware else for that hot air to leave, a flawed 
design in my opinion but there it is.


Take care and be blessed.
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clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


Sarah, I've been using No Sleep since 2012, and never even once have had 
even the slightest issue with it.


In fact, it's one of the apps I personally most prefer having.

Can you be more specific on what you mean about the ventilation 
structure?


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Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: does any one know how i can uninstall 
aappfromthemac?



Ok, try this. from anyware in the finder type cmd shift G. Note that 
also works in the open dialogue as well.

afterwhich type in the following path. Copy and paste this line
~/library

It does to have to be upper case.

Now find preference pains, and find the no sleep one. I  do a cmd option 
f to search for no sleep.

After you do that hit cmd back space to move it to  the trash.

Btw I would not recommend no  sleep because of the way the ventilation 
system is designed. You will melt your mac in to scrap if not careful.


Take care.
On Mar 28, 2015, at 3:33 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
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I was dictating on my iPhone and using Alex and I often find that Alex 
does not get what I say correctly.




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clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


Oh, LOL!

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Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: does any one know how i can uninstall a 
appfromthemac?




sorry I was dictating and voice-over left out the word delete!



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clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


Just... what?
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just… And send it to trash.



On 28 Mar 2015, at 22:08, wui chin Leong 
adrianleon...@icloud.com wrote:


it would be easier if i had some help over skype
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Re: [Mac-access]: does any one know howi canuninstall aappfromthemac?

2015-03-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

So guys,

He called me up on Skype, and I tried helping him.  I think we have a bigger 
issue going on though than just removing No Sleep.


It's not even letting us open up his Preference Paynes directory, whereby we 
could delete the No Sleep payne out of there.  I've suggested he run a disk 
permissions repair.


It's really bizarre, as He can get to the preference paynes directory just 
fine, but when he tries openning it up with right arrow, command+down arrow, 
or command+o, either of the three methods, it's just bonking at us.  Yes, he 
was interacting with the browser, and we tried both in column view, as well 
as list view.  Neither are working.


I tried on my macbook pro which has No Sleep installed, just to see if I 
could replicate the problem, and I can't seem to be able to duplicate it on 
either Mavericks, or on Yosemite.  I tried with two different mac systems.


I'm totally baffled at this point.  The only thing I can think to have him 
do is a disk permission repair.  Do you all agree, at this point, that might 
be in order?


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Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 7:58 PM
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aappfromthemac?




what i meant to say was i hope i can get no sleep un in stalled
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Re: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App

2015-03-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Glenn,

You are! aware, are you not, that if you don't like typing your e-mail 
address, you can set up a shortcut, so you would type for example, GPEM, 
which stands for Glenn's personal E-mail.  Then, once you hit the space 
bar, it would expand to your entire e-mail address.


Let me know if you'd like some help setting this up.

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- Original Message - 
From: Glenn / Lenny glenner...@cableone.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 12:55 PM
Subject: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App



Hi,
I was just wondering, from the users of the Be My Eyes app on IOS.
Should one have to put in their eMail and password each time we use it?
For those who have difficulty typing on their device, it makes it useless,
and I'm not fond of typing in my eMail and password each time I use it.
I have worked with others to use it successfully, and they have had to 
enter

their information each time.
I tried mine today, and it has been so long since I used it, I don't even
remember which eMail account I used on it.
Thanks for any feedback.
Glenn

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Re: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App

2015-03-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

I personally have not had the need to do this every single time.

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To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App


I would post a forum thread on applevis about this as you will have about 
maybe 2-300 people who used it. If you do need to enter in yoru info I 
guess contact the developers/ they watch apple vis.


Good luck.
On Mar 28, 2015, at 9:55 AM, Glenn / Lenny glenner...@cableone.net 
wrote:


Hi,
I was just wondering, from the users of the Be My Eyes app on IOS.
Should one have to put in their eMail and password each time we use it?
For those who have difficulty typing on their device, it makes it 
useless,

and I'm not fond of typing in my eMail and password each time I use it.
I have worked with others to use it successfully, and they have had to 
enter

their information each time.
I tried mine today, and it has been so long since I used it, I don't even
remember which eMail account I used on it.
Thanks for any feedback.
Glenn

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Re: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App

2015-03-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Nor have I.

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To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App



Hello,

After I did the last update, I needed to put in my credentials. I just 
opened the app and it asked if I wanted to the next available person. So, 
I haven't experience typing any info since.


Best,
Eileen

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 28, 2015, at 10:17 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

I would post a forum thread on applevis about this as you will have about 
maybe 2-300 people who used it. If you do need to enter in yoru info I 
guess contact the developers/ they watch apple vis.


Good luck.
On Mar 28, 2015, at 9:55 AM, Glenn / Lenny glenner...@cableone.net 
wrote:


Hi,
I was just wondering, from the users of the Be My Eyes app on IOS.
Should one have to put in their eMail and password each time we use it?
For those who have difficulty typing on their device, it makes it 
useless,

and I'm not fond of typing in my eMail and password each time I use it.
I have worked with others to use it successfully, and they have had to 
enter

their information each time.
I tried mine today, and it has been so long since I used it, I don't 
even

remember which eMail account I used on it.
Thanks for any feedback.
Glenn

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Re: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App

2015-03-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

OK, let me grab my IPhone so I can talk you through this correctly...

1.  Go to Settings.

2.  Double tap on General.

3.  Double tap on Keyboard.

4.  Double tap on Shorttcuts

5.  Double tap on add, which is in the top right corner, yes you can flick 
to it if needed.


6.  Now you're in the phraise field, so simply type in your e-mail address 
in completion.


7.  Next, double tap in the Shortcut optional field, then type in something 
like GPEM or whatever you want to type to expand to your address.


8.  Now, upper right corner, double tap on save.

There you go.

Now, to make this work and test it out, put yourself into a text field. 
Doesn't matter where, just get focus moved inside one.  Now type your 
shortcut text.  You'll need to then afterward hit the space bar.  It won't 
expand until you do so.


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- Original Message - 
From: Glenn / Lenny glenner...@cableone.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App



Hi Chris,
That sounds good, you could send me the steps, and I should be good to go
with that.
Thanks much.
Glenn
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To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App


Glenn,

You are! aware, are you not, that if you don't like typing your e-mail
address, you can set up a shortcut, so you would type for example, GPEM,
which stands for Glenn's personal E-mail.  Then, once you hit the space
bar, it would expand to your entire e-mail address.

Let me know if you'd like some help setting this up.

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- Original Message - 
From: Glenn / Lenny glenner...@cableone.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 12:55 PM
Subject: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App



Hi,
I was just wondering, from the users of the Be My Eyes app on IOS.
Should one have to put in their eMail and password each time we use it?
For those who have difficulty typing on their device, it makes it 
useless,

and I'm not fond of typing in my eMail and password each time I use it.
I have worked with others to use it successfully, and they have had to
enter
their information each time.
I tried mine today, and it has been so long since I used it, I don't even
remember which eMail account I used on it.
Thanks for any feedback.
Glenn

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Re: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App

2015-03-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Actually, her name was Kristin.  We got married, but then one year later, 
she filed for divorce.  It's a long story.  I'd rather not go into it. 
We'll just say that the marriage would have inevitably fallen apart 
eventually had it not when it did.  This is getting off topic bigtime, so 
I'll end it here, but we'll just leave it finally to say, it wasn't pretty. 
there is extremely bad  blood against me now with her family, which is 
unfortunate.


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Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App



I guess you do!
I remember our talks, but I don't remember names of your family, such as
your girl friend's name.

Glenn
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Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App


You and I talked way way way back in the days via phone.  It's been quite 
a

while, but I have a good memory.

Sorry, I was just making a point.  Didn't mean to stir up an awquard
feeling.  You asked me if I knew, and I said no.  that seemed to be the
logical thing to do was get him, or someone else to help you look.

If you're angry at my comment, I'm sorry, dono what to tell ya.
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Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App



Chris,
How did you remember that my son's name is Alexander?
Glenn
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You know Glenn, I'm honestly not totally sure.  You'll have to get
Alexander
or someone sighted to look.  I'm sorry.  I don't have anyone near me 
right

now who can, or else I'd find out.  sorry about that.

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Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App



Cool, thanks, that's simple enough.
When you hit the space, does it insert a space too?
That would not be good for eMail addresses.
Glenn
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Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App


OK, let me grab my IPhone so I can talk you through this correctly...

1.  Go to Settings.

2.  Double tap on General.

3.  Double tap on Keyboard.

4.  Double tap on Shorttcuts

5.  Double tap on add, which is in the top right corner, yes you can
flick
to it if needed.

6.  Now you're in the phraise field, so simply type in your e-mail
address
in completion.

7.  Next, double tap in the Shortcut optional field, then type in
something
like GPEM or whatever you want to type to expand to your address.

8.  Now, upper right corner, double tap on save.

There you go.

Now, to make this work and test it out, put yourself into a text field.
Doesn't matter where, just get focus moved inside one.  Now type your
shortcut text.  You'll need to then afterward hit the space bar.  It
won't
expand until you do so.

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Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App



Hi Chris,
That sounds good, you could send me the steps, and I should be good to
go
with that.
Thanks much.
Glenn
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Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App


Glenn,

You are! aware, are you not, that if you don't like typing your e-mail
address, you can set up a shortcut, so you would type for example, 
GPEM,

which stands for Glenn's personal E-mail.  Then, once you hit the
space
bar, it would expand to your entire e-mail address.

Let me know if you'd like some help setting this up.

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Subject: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App



Hi,
I was just wondering, from the users of the Be My Eyes app on IOS.
Should one have

Re: [Mac-access]: does any one know how i can uninstall a app from themac?

2015-03-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Oh, OK, OK.  you're using No Sleep.

OK, that is a preference payne, so that will actually be slightly different 
than what I told you initially.  I still would look into getting App Trap 
though.  I don't recall if it's free.  I don't think it is.  I think it was 
like... 99 cents.  Very very worth it though.


Go to:

~/Library

Notice, this is your user library... tilde slash Library, with a cap L.

If you're in your finder, just hit Command+Shift+G, then type in:

~/Library

then hit return.

In here, look for a folder called Preference Paynes

Be very very careful.  You're not wanting the folder simply called 
Preferences.


The folder again that you want is called Preference Paynes.

In this folder, locate No sleep.  Then hit command+delete, and move it to 
the trash.  Most likely, you'll have to enter your administrator password.


Also, be sure that the app isn't running in your menu extras prior to doing 
this.


vo+M M, or you can just hit ctrl+F8.  Either one works.

Then just vo+right arrow over through your menu extras and be sure it's not 
there, if it is! there, vo+space on it, then vo+down arrow to exit, quit, or 
whatever they call it, then hit vo+space on that option.


You probably won't need to then reboot, but if things start behaving weird, 
then just hit ctrl+command+eject, and reboot the machine.


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it is a app called no sleep when i close it i can’t get my mac to go to 
sleep. Does any one know if app trapper is free?

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Re: [Mac-access]: does any one know how i can uninstall a app from themac?

2015-03-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

OK, go ahead then and add me.

My Skype name is:

chris28210

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it would be easier if i had some help over skype
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Re: [Mac-access]: does any one know how i canuninstall aappfromthemac?

2015-03-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Why would you need to install ITunes?  That comes installed already with 
OSX, so no need to install anything.


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i hope i can get ituninstalled
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Re: [Mac-access]: DVD Ripping/Copying

2015-03-27 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
OK, but I'm wanting to literally burn a duplicate copy.  I don't want jsut 
the audio as an mp3.  I'm needing an exact DVD copy on another DVD media 
disc.


Chris.

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Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: DVD Ripping/Copying


hand brake will rip any dvd even those with drm protection, at least that 
has been my experience. if not thr's software to prpbably crack it, but 
since I have not used dvds in about 3 years I can't tell you much. I'd 
consult google on how to do this or mac update or iMore.


take care.
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What however if you have a DVD with video that you need to copy?  I don't 
mean doing this illegally either, so don't even? go there!  Yes, the DVD 
has copy protection, but I have indeed sought the copyright holder, and 
they made an agreement with me to copy once, and once only.


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Hand  brake then use easy music converter or cloud convert to convert 
the files to mp3. this has worked for me, until of corse I got my mac 
book air as it has no cd drive. Lol! but it works quite well.
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Hi!

What are people using to rip from DVD'S these days.


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Re: [Mac-access]: DVD Ripping/Copying

2015-03-27 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
What however if you have a DVD with video that you need to copy?  I don't 
mean doing this illegally either, so don't even? go there!  Yes, the DVD has 
copy protection, but I have indeed sought the copyright holder, and they 
made an agreement with me to copy once, and once only.


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Hand  brake then use easy music converter or cloud convert to convert the 
files to mp3. this has worked for me, until of corse I got my mac book air 
as it has no cd drive. Lol! but it works quite well.
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Hi!

What are people using to rip from DVD'S these days.


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Re: [Mac-access]: DVD Ripping/Copying

2015-03-27 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I honestly doubt it.  Before doing anything, I'd have to strip the copy 
protection.


Again, word of disclaimer:

I never! ever ever ever ever! did, nor will! condone the promoting of 
copying copy written material illegally.  Let's get that totally clear!  I, 
nor CLG Productions in a whole, nor *anyone!* on this list will be held 
lyable for any misuse of this task.


You as the list subscriber thereby agree to indemnify all above mentioned 
parties from any legal action which may occur as a result.


OK, that legal disclaimer now out of the way, again, I have saught the 
copyright holder's permission in this case, and they've authorized me to one 
duplicate copy.  I'm basically wanting to keep the top root title menu, all 
the chapter marks, etc.  Literally, I want 100% an exact duplication of the 
original DVD, audio, video, and all.


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Hmm. Would simply burns do the trick? It  worked when someone wanted a 
copy for my album to use in a tiny local press kit 4 years ago.


Take care.
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OK, but I'm wanting to literally burn a duplicate copy.  I don't want 
jsut the audio as an mp3.  I'm needing an exact DVD copy on another DVD 
media disc.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: DVD Ripping/Copying


hand brake will rip any dvd even those with drm protection, at least 
that has been my experience. if not thr's software to prpbably crack it, 
but since I have not used dvds in about 3 years I can't tell you much. 
I'd consult google on how to do this or mac update or iMore.


take care.
On Mar 27, 2015, at 11:52 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


What however if you have a DVD with video that you need to copy?  I 
don't mean doing this illegally either, so don't even? go there!  Yes, 
the DVD has copy protection, but I have indeed sought the copyright 
holder, and they made an agreement with me to copy once, and once only.


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Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: DVD Ripping/Copying


Hand  brake then use easy music converter or cloud convert to convert 
the files to mp3. this has worked for me, until of corse I got my mac 
book air as it has no cd drive. Lol! but it works quite well.
On Mar 26, 2015, at 11:44 PM, Dane Trethowan 
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Hi!

What are people using to rip from DVD'S these days.


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Re: [Mac-access]: Updating Tweetings for Mac | Powerful Twitter client for iPhone, iPad, Android, Mac and Kindle FIre

2015-03-25 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Oh!  I confess I really didn't read this entire thread, but someone wrote 
saying Tweetings was the most accessible they'd ever seen, even more than 
YoruFukurou/Night Owl, so I was therefore just under the impression they 
were speaking of OSX entirely, being they mentioned the ladder.


Sorry bout that.

Chris.
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Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Updating Tweetings for Mac | Powerful Twitter 
client for iPhone, iPad, Android, Mac and Kindle FIre



Course we don't know yet, I think the blog entry tells us that the new 
Tweetings For Mac is still a work in progress.



On 26/03/2015 11:18 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Does Tweetings on the mac use an html area you interact with, then, it's 
kind of web based?  I noticed this with things like Menu Tab for 
Facebook, and such.  I like Night Owl just because it doesn't take an 
html buffer, and embed part of the twitter web page interface into it. 
It literally has its own UI. Is Tweetings for OSX this same way?


Chris.
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Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Updating Tweetings for Mac | Powerful Twitter 
client for iPhone, iPad, Android, Mac and Kindle FIre



Tweetings is the most accessible Twitter client I've come across, the 
user has a good choice when it comes to Tweetings and Tweetlist.



On 26/03/2015 9:57 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Looks good. How is accessibility as far as ios and voice over? I love 
twitterrific on ios but am looking for an alternate twitter client for 
osx besides yorufukurou. Can tweetings support multiple twitter 
accounts and is navigation quite good, or am I just best sticking with 
yorufukurou?


Take care.
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http://www.tweetings.net/apps/2015/03/updating-tweetings-for-mac/

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Re: [Mac-access]: using another power chord for the mac mini?

2015-03-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Normally, you'd be 100% correct on this.  However, a mac mini cord isn't 
anything propriatary.  It's just a standard electrical cord, with the rubber 
insolated end on the oppisit side.  Kind of like what you'd see on an old 
school CD boombox.


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You were very luckey, I once plugged in a cable that I thought would charge
my Braille 'N Speak and it distroyed it and cost me £100 sterling to have it
repaired about 10 years ago!!!  That was a lot of money at the time.  It did
fit but it belonged to a 4 track tape recorder.  Personally I would be very
weary of using another cable unless I was absolutely confident.

Eleanor
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Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2015 7:23 PM
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Thanks. I found this chord that once went to a radio or CD player, and it 
worked. It was amazing that it worked!
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Do you have a power cord to an Apple TV second or 3rd generation?  If so, 
that cord will work flawlessly.  I do it all the time!


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Hi all. I left the power chord of the mac mini at school, and would like 
to know if anyone can tell me if I can use another type of chord that 
could still work with the mac.


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Re: [Mac-access]: using another power chord for the mac mini?

2015-03-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I should add my suggestion about checking to see if you have a Beats Music 
icon will only apply, provided that no one has gone in and hidden the icon 
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I would not know if I had a second or third generation apple TV, now how 
would I know?
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Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2015 6:57 PM
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Do you have a power cord to an Apple TV second or 3rd generation?  If so, 
that cord will work flawlessly.  I do it all the time!


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Subject: [Mac-access]: using another power chord for the mac mini?


Hi all. I left the power chord of the mac mini at school, and would like 
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could still work with the mac.


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Re: [Mac-access]: using another power chord for the mac mini?

2015-03-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Do you have a power cord to an Apple TV second or 3rd generation?  If so, 
that cord will work flawlessly.  I do it all the time!


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Re: [Mac-access]: using another power chord for the mac mini?

2015-03-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I agree.  Like, has anyone noticed that you also can use the same charger on 
either a polycarbon macbook, or a macbook pro?  They're both 
interchangeable.  Let me be very very very very clear though, don't, and I 
repeat, don't! attempt mix matching a macbook air cord with a regular 
macbook of any! type, or vice versa.  If it even fits at all, you'll be 
subject to a possible boom, followed by rizzle d tizzle.


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Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2015 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: using another power chord for the mac mini?


Luckily for me, Apple is actually smart.
On Mar 21, 2015, at 2:30 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:


You were very luckey, I once plugged in a cable that I thought would 
charge my Braille 'N Speak and it distroyed it and cost me £100 sterling 
to have it repaired about 10 years ago!!!  That was a lot of money at the 
time.  It did fit but it belonged to a 4 track tape recorder.  Personally 
I would be very weary of using another cable unless I was absolutely 
confident.


Eleanor
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To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2015 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: using another power chord for the mac mini?


Thanks. I found this chord that once went to a radio or CD player, and it 
worked. It was amazing that it worked!
On Mar 21, 2015, at 1:57 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


Do you have a power cord to an Apple TV second or 3rd generation?  If 
so, that cord will work flawlessly.  I do it all the time!


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Subject: [Mac-access]: using another power chord for the mac mini?


Hi all. I left the power chord of the mac mini at school, and would 
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that could still work with the mac.


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Re: [Mac-access]: Voiceover and braille tables question

2015-03-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
So how do we either modify them, or create them, provided we have a windows 
machine lying around, and that we have a copy of Duxberry?


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Hello,

Apple uses the Duxberry Braille tables.

Cheers,

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Re: [Mac-access]: using another power chord for the mac mini?

2015-03-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Look in the menu on the main screen.  Do you have a Beats Music button?  If 
you do, then you have a 3rd gen.  If not, it's a 2nd.


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Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2015 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: using another power chord for the mac mini?


I would not know if I had a second or third generation apple TV, now how 
would I know?
- Original Message - 
From: Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2015 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: using another power chord for the mac mini?


Do you have a power cord to an Apple TV second or 3rd generation?  If so, 
that cord will work flawlessly.  I do it all the time!


Chris.
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- Original Message - 
From: Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2015 12:19 PM
Subject: [Mac-access]: using another power chord for the mac mini?


Hi all. I left the power chord of the mac mini at school, and would like 
to know if anyone can tell me if I can use another type of chord that 
could still work with the mac.


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