Re: Awe, how coot! Look at the perty little Apple. Not?

2012-08-24 Thread Garth Humphreys
Lol Chris 
I can't help with your problem but if you ever decide to upgrade to a MBA then 
you will still have a glowing white apple on the back of your screen. The good 
thing is though, on the MBA the same back light sir does both the screen and 
the glowing apple.. 


Sent from my iPhone

On 24/08/2012, at 13:12, Christopher-Mark gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
wrote:

OK, so you're probably looking at my subject line going, what the... heck? Hear 
me out.  Yes I was kind a kidding in the subject, but this actually is a true 
legitimate question, I swear.  LOL!

So, I can't speak for the macbook airs, nor for the macbook pros of any flavor, 
but I know at least that on the white polly-carbon standard macbooks, if you 
look on the back of the screen, pretty much about in the dead smack center, 
you're gonna feel ingraved cut into the plastic, a very tactal outline of an 
apple.  I know, you're probably going, yeah? so? Here's the catch.  I dono if 
yall knew this, but, I have a bit more vision than just light preception.  I 
can't read the screen, not even close, but I can see shape, color, light, and 
sometimes depending on the setting, even some very noticeable facial 
expressions, so I'd say my vision loss is pretty significant, yes, but nowhere 
near total, thank God.  With this said, I dono if yall knew this, but as long 
as the macbook's screen is up... opened rather, and as long as the system is 
on, who cares if you're booted or if you have a crashed paper weight, God 
forbid, bottom line is, as long as it's opened and the unit is powered on, that 
apple actually lights up.  No, I'm seriously not? kidding!  Ask a sighted 
person if ya don't believe me.  And believe me, it's pretty much as bright as 
the screen would be at 100%.

Even hitting fn+F1 (as my keys are set to software by default, not 
hardware...), to dim the screen, that doesn't decrease the brightness of the l 
e d in that apple.  So aside taking a drum set stick and going kurbango, 
Sm'm'mash! w'w'wack, on the thing... ok, I'm kidding, LOL!  Seriously though... 
is there a way less distructively, LOL! to somehow use a 3rd party app, or 
maybe something to modify the efi and allow me to have that stupid thing that 
does us blinks no good aside draining our batteries quicker, not light up at 
all?

Honestly, it's driving me crazy!

Chris. 
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Re: Best GPS app for iPhone

2012-08-24 Thread Anne Robertson
navigon does not require an internet connection except when downloading the 
maps.

Cheers,

Anne


On 24 Aug 2012, at 07:25, Kimsan wrote:

 Hi,
 So is there an actual gps that doesn't require internet. I don't have
 internet yet on my 3 gs.
 

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Re: there's an update to Mountain Lion available

2012-08-24 Thread Garth Humphreys
Are you tapping on the mountain lion installer or the mountain lion update? 

Sent from my iPhone

On 24/08/2012, at 4:18, Ioana Gandrabur igandra...@gmail.com wrote:

Well,

I checked my purchases list in the app store and ml appears in my list.
SO this is not the case I think.
Any other thoughts?

A baffled Ioana

Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online 
stores.

On Aug 23, 2012, at 1:33 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter markbaxte...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 No, you shouldn't see that unless you have signed into a different App Store 
 account, with a different ID, than the one from which you installed MOuntain 
 Lion in the place.  Make sure that you're logged in under the same ID as your 
 Mountain Lion install, and you then shouldn't see that error message.
 
 
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Re: Fusion 5.

2012-08-24 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
The upgrade was £75,61 but have not had a chance to try it yet. It supports 
windows 8.

Kawal.

On 24 Aug 2012, at 01:53 AM, Kliphton kliph...@gmail.com wrote:

 How much was the upgrade?  And how does it perform with your current copy of 
 windows?
 On Aug 23, 2012, at 7:51 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi All.
 
 Just to let you know that VMFusion 5 is out.
 
 If purchasing, please be careful as I purchased 10 licences by accident 
 without realising.  I couldn't believe the amount but customer services were 
 very helpful and I hope to get a refund soon after purchasing another 
 licence in order to get the refund.
 
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Re: Fusion 5.

2012-08-24 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
You can get a free trial but the limits have not changed as you get a 30 day 
trial.

On 24 Aug 2012, at 01:58 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is there a free trial of any kind? What are the limitations if so?
 
 On 8/23/12, Kliphton kliph...@gmail.com wrote:
 How much was the upgrade?  And how does it perform with your current copy of
 windows?
 On Aug 23, 2012, at 7:51 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi All.
 
 Just to let you know that VMFusion 5 is out.
 
 If purchasing, please be careful as I purchased 10 licences by accident
 without realising.  I couldn't believe the amount but customer services
 were very helpful and I hope to get a refund soon after purchasing another
 licence in order to get the refund.
 
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Re: there's an update to Mountain Lion available

2012-08-24 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi guys. 
I have noticed one improvement with this update. Just now, I used Numbers, and 
my fan didn't turn itself on and my Mac didn't get all warm. Before, it was 
getting pretty warm by the keyboard. I am hoping the next update will fix the 
severe delay I am having when editing cells in large files. I'll bet this is a 
VoiceOver thing. 

On Aug 24, 2012, at 2:39 AM, Garth Humphreys ghu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Are you tapping on the mountain lion installer or the mountain lion update? 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 24/08/2012, at 4:18, Ioana Gandrabur igandra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well,
 
 I checked my purchases list in the app store and ml appears in my list.
 SO this is not the case I think.
 Any other thoughts?
 
 A baffled Ioana
 
 Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online 
 stores.
 
 On Aug 23, 2012, at 1:33 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter markbaxte...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 No, you shouldn't see that unless you have signed into a different App Store 
 account, with a different ID, than the one from which you installed MOuntain 
 Lion in the place.  Make sure that you're logged in under the same ID as 
 your Mountain Lion install, and you then shouldn't see that error message.
 
 
 • Mark BurningHawk Baxter
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 • MSN:  burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
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 • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
 
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Re: Facebook on IOS update

2012-08-24 Thread Paul Hunt
Hello Wes. I don't see this update in the app store. Would you please give us 
the complete app name and version? Where did you find it? Thanks so much.

On Aug 23, 2012, at 11:44 PM, Wes Smith wessmith...@gmail.com wrote:

 WOW!
 It's completely accessible, at least from what I've seen so far…all buttons 
 are labeled, friend requests, ETC ETC….you can comment, like on all 
 posts…just tap (or in our case double tap), on the post you want to comment 
 on or like.
 The newsfeed starts below the status button….the status button is used to 
 update your status.
 Hope this helps you, it certainly looks to be very usable now….the only thing 
 is….IT NEEDS TO STAY THAT WAY
 WHS
 
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Re: ML .1 changed Mail again.

2012-08-24 Thread mário gabriel

hi verónica.
great song, Prayer for a Soldier
please if you create more songs, let me know.
If you make me this favor, send me your songs to my mail:
mario@gmail.com
I am the mário of Portugal.
girl let me tell you that you're beautiful, I love your voice, and you made 
me cry.

Oh girl I think I 'm in love!
Long Life to Veronica.
cheers.

-Mensagem Original- 
From: Veronica Elsea

Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 4:19 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ML .1 changed Mail again.

Okay everyone! Ummm, urr, uh, oops! Head down, tail between leggs, boy
do I feel stupid! grin
So, public appology oh Macbook air! I had been playing around in Safari
and forgot that I'd taken out my activity which I'd created. So, ahem,
guess who forgot to turn off Quick Nav? Umm, now I know what happens in
Mail when I make that silly mistake again. Sheesh! Guess it's time to
put that activity back, eh?
Sheesh! Can anyone think of a good reason not to have Quick Nav
automatically turn on when entering Safari? Thanks and please forgive
the stupid mistake.

Veronica


Watch and hear Veronica Elsea's Prayer for a Soldier at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFoIhWrBHFI
Then find more music from Veronica Elsea and The Guide Dog Glee Club at:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


On 8/23/2012 7:56 PM, Veronica Elsea wrote:

Okay, I'm going to go gray before this Macbook is done with me! shriek!
After playing with Safari, I just thought I'd restart and see what
happens. Then I thought I'd check my mail. Two things. Did anyone else
notice that the first time you go into Safari and the first time you
opened mail in 10.8.1, you heard that sound you get when sending mail or
opening up Mission control?
Anyway, after that, I went into Mail and boy does it look weird. I know
we've had zillions of discussions about preview panes and all of that
but I haven't see it look like this before. When mail opens, I'm usually
set to classic view, which I still am. I have preview pane gone. Usually
I come up in the messages table where I can up and down arrow through
messages. It comes in and says messages table, inbox, 135 of 136. Okay,
I'm sitting on message number 136. If I up arrow, I hear, horrizontal
splitter. If I down arrow, I hear horrizontal splitter. If I Vo-left
arrow to the mailboxes table, I can hear the current mailbox but none of
the rest of them. I can interact with the table, but then I can't easily
get to the list of messages where I used to be able to up and down arrow
without interacting, getting to hear all of the column information at
once. Does this mean that the preview pane is back? Guess I'm going to
have to keep those instructions set right by the computer if every time
the operating system gets a snack, preview is back. Sheesh!
Now let's see if I can hunt those instructions down. Good grief! Thanks
for any help.

Veronica



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Re: ML .1 changed Mail again.

2012-08-24 Thread mário gabriel

hi verónica.
sorry I had not seen the link:
Laurel Creek Music Designs
oh woman you are the star that shines most among the stars.
I heard the samples of your albums and I was delighted.
my god how I loved the songs of guide dogs.
they made me remember my dog.
never a woman before me had done so much crying like a child!
verónica you are simply a wonderful woman
one heartbreaker!
Now I will continue to read everything and hear everything that is on site.
God bless you woman star.
Long Life to Veronica.
cheers.

-Mensagem Original- 
From: Veronica Elsea

Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 4:19 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ML .1 changed Mail again.

Okay everyone! Ummm, urr, uh, oops! Head down, tail between leggs, boy
do I feel stupid! grin
So, public appology oh Macbook air! I had been playing around in Safari
and forgot that I'd taken out my activity which I'd created. So, ahem,
guess who forgot to turn off Quick Nav? Umm, now I know what happens in
Mail when I make that silly mistake again. Sheesh! Guess it's time to
put that activity back, eh?
Sheesh! Can anyone think of a good reason not to have Quick Nav
automatically turn on when entering Safari? Thanks and please forgive
the stupid mistake.

Veronica


Watch and hear Veronica Elsea's Prayer for a Soldier at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFoIhWrBHFI
Then find more music from Veronica Elsea and The Guide Dog Glee Club at:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


On 8/23/2012 7:56 PM, Veronica Elsea wrote:

Okay, I'm going to go gray before this Macbook is done with me! shriek!
After playing with Safari, I just thought I'd restart and see what
happens. Then I thought I'd check my mail. Two things. Did anyone else
notice that the first time you go into Safari and the first time you
opened mail in 10.8.1, you heard that sound you get when sending mail or
opening up Mission control?
Anyway, after that, I went into Mail and boy does it look weird. I know
we've had zillions of discussions about preview panes and all of that
but I haven't see it look like this before. When mail opens, I'm usually
set to classic view, which I still am. I have preview pane gone. Usually
I come up in the messages table where I can up and down arrow through
messages. It comes in and says messages table, inbox, 135 of 136. Okay,
I'm sitting on message number 136. If I up arrow, I hear, horrizontal
splitter. If I down arrow, I hear horrizontal splitter. If I Vo-left
arrow to the mailboxes table, I can hear the current mailbox but none of
the rest of them. I can interact with the table, but then I can't easily
get to the list of messages where I used to be able to up and down arrow
without interacting, getting to hear all of the column information at
once. Does this mean that the preview pane is back? Guess I'm going to
have to keep those instructions set right by the computer if every time
the operating system gets a snack, preview is back. Sheesh!
Now let's see if I can hunt those instructions down. Good grief! Thanks
for any help.

Veronica



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VMware Fusion

2012-08-24 Thread christopher hallsworth
Hello all.
Really getting on well with my Macbook Pro 13 Inch. I have installed VMware 
Fusion 5 last night and am giving it a test drive before considering to 
purchase it for times when I want to use Windows. Now my question is how on 
earth do I use the caps lock key in the virtual machine? Asking as I have 
installed NVDA and have set it to use the laptop keyboard layout. The caps lock 
is simply being ignored and is therefore sent to the host. Is it true that I 
need to remap some keys? If so how is this done?
All help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!

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Re: voices for the mack?

2012-08-24 Thread Christine Grassman
You do have to choose Customize. One thing that frustrates me about Lee is that 
unlike Alex, I cannot change pitch or intonation for some reason: just rate and 
volume. Anyone know why this is?
Christine
On Aug 23, 2012, at 9:25 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hi
 Yes there's Karen and Lee, and they are free.
 Go into VO utility and choose the voice row of the table there. Look around 
 in there. YOu may need to choose customise to find all the possible 
 options. Karen premium is what I use. You need to download her but she is 
 worth the megabytes. No charge though.
 
 Lisette
 
 On 24/08/2012, at 1:19 PM, Chenelle Hancock filmchenelle1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 hi all,
 i wanted to know if there were any australian  voices for the mack that one 
 could purchase?
 thanks for your help.
 sincerely, chenelle
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 23/08/2012, at 18:28, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
  Today's Topic Summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
 
 • dumb mail question [2 Updates]
 • a new little thing about Mountain Lion [8 Updates]
 • Speaking rate in Voiceover [4 Updates]
 • Is Facebook Now Completely Broken [1 Update]
 • Best GPS app for iPhone [2 Updates]
 • 1password accessibility [1 Update]
 • Anyone has a link to a working version of Stanza? [1 Update]
 • there's an update to Mountain Lion available [1 Update]
 • TextEdit question [5 Updates]
 dumb mail question
 Bill Holton bill32...@gmail.com Aug 23 03:52PM -0400  
 
 Hi.
 What is the best voiceover command to use that will get mail to 
 consistently open a web URL insight email?
 
 Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Aug 23 06:10PM -0400  
 
 Hi,
 
 I would navigate by character to the url itself then press VO space. If 
 that fails you, do the same but instead of pressing VO space, press VO 
 shift M to bring up the context menu and select to open link or something 
 like that.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 
 a new little thing about Mountain Lion
 Joseph Norton joseph.nor...@gmail.com Aug 23 04:15PM -0400  
 
 Well, they finally did it!
 
 Now, when downloading the BootCamp Windows Support software, they finally 
 give you a progress report.
 
 Not a big thing, but, it's a tiny improvement.
 
 Now to try VMWare Fusion 5 and see what it can do.
 
 Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net Aug 23 03:18PM -0500  
 
 So, does this make it possible for a blind person to install windows using 
 bootcamp independantly; or, need we wait for yet more work to be done?
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
 
 
 Christopher-Mark gilland clgillan...@gmail.com Aug 23 04:30PM -0400  
 
 You know, that doesn't sound like that half bad of an idea. I too have vm 
 ware 5, but have been really hesitant to install it and set a vm of Windows 
 7 up on it as I was a little scared from the horror stories I heard... but 
 then again, I guess that was from Boot Camp, not from Fusion, huh.
 
 Anyways...
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Joseph Norton joseph.nor...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 4:15 PM
 Subject: a new little thing about Mountain Lion
 
 
 
 christopher hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com Aug 23 10:09PM +0100  
 
 Let us know please as I want to try Bootcamp 
 at some stage. Thanks!On 23 Aug 2012, at 21:18, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 
 christopher hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com Aug 23 10:10PM +0100  
 
 Wow only downloaded Fusion 4 I think last night or the night before.
 On 23 Aug 2012, at 21:15, Joseph Norton wrote:
 
 
 Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com Aug 23 05:19PM -0400  
 
 Then you should be eligible for a free upgrade.
 
 CB
 
 On 8/23/12 5:10 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:
 
 Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Aug 23 06:04PM -0400  
 
 I would doubt it. Installing windows really has nothing to do with the 
 bootcamp set up at that point. It would be up to MS to make the 
 installation of windows accessible.
 
 Of course, as a parson who uses bootcamp, I hope I'm wrong. lol.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 
 Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com Aug 23 05:08PM -0500  
 
 You're right. It'd be up to Microsoft to make windows installs accessible,
 since that progress bar is only for installing the mac side of bootcamp.
 Unfortunately, Windows 8 will be the only version of windows for the first
 time ever that's accessible during install.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
 Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 5:05 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: a new little thing about Mountain Lion
 
 I would doubt it. Installing windows really has nothing to do with the
 

RE: voices for the mack?

2012-08-24 Thread Missy Hoppe
Unfortunately, the premium quality nuance voices don't allow pitch to be 
adjusted. I really wish they did. The compact
versions allow for pitch adjustment, but the quality is horrible, at least in 
my opinion.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Christine Grassman
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 7:11 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: voices for the mack?

You do have to choose Customize. One thing that frustrates me about Lee is that 
unlike Alex, I cannot change pitch or
intonation for some reason: just rate and volume. Anyone know why this is?
Christine
On Aug 23, 2012, at 9:25 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hi
 Yes there's Karen and Lee, and they are free.
 Go into VO utility and choose the voice row of the table there. Look around 
 in there. YOu may need to choose customise
to find all the possible options. Karen premium is what I use. You need to 
download her but she is worth the megabytes. No
charge though.

 Lisette

 On 24/08/2012, at 1:19 PM, Chenelle Hancock filmchenelle1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 hi all,
 i wanted to know if there were any australian  voices for the mack that one 
 could purchase?
 thanks for your help.
 sincerely, chenelle

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 23/08/2012, at 18:28, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

  Today's Topic Summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics

 • dumb mail question [2 Updates]
 • a new little thing about Mountain Lion [8 Updates]
 • Speaking rate in Voiceover [4 Updates]
 • Is Facebook Now Completely Broken [1 Update]
 • Best GPS app for iPhone [2 Updates]
 • 1password accessibility [1 Update]
 • Anyone has a link to a working version of Stanza? [1 Update]
 • there's an update to Mountain Lion available [1 Update]
 • TextEdit question [5 Updates]
 dumb mail question
 Bill Holton bill32...@gmail.com Aug 23 03:52PM -0400

 Hi.
 What is the best voiceover command to use that will get mail to 
 consistently open a web URL insight email?

 Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Aug 23 06:10PM -0400

 Hi,

 I would navigate by character to the url itself then press VO space. If 
 that fails you, do the same but instead of
pressing VO space, press VO shift M to bring up the context menu and select to 
open link or something like that.

 hth

 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info


 a new little thing about Mountain Lion Joseph Norton
 joseph.nor...@gmail.com Aug 23 04:15PM -0400

 Well, they finally did it!

 Now, when downloading the BootCamp Windows Support software, they finally 
 give you a progress report.

 Not a big thing, but, it's a tiny improvement.

 Now to try VMWare Fusion 5 and see what it can do.

 Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net Aug 23 03:18PM -0500

 So, does this make it possible for a blind person to install windows using 
 bootcamp independantly; or, need we wait for
yet more work to be done?


 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

 Skype name:
 barefootedray


 Christopher-Mark gilland clgillan...@gmail.com Aug 23 04:30PM
 -0400

 You know, that doesn't sound like that half bad of an idea. I too
 have vm ware 5, but have been really hesitant to install it and set
 a vm of Windows
 7 up on it as I was a little scared from the horror stories I
 heard... but then again, I guess that was from Boot Camp, not from Fusion, 
 huh.

 Anyways...

 Chris.

 - Original Message -
 From: Joseph Norton joseph.nor...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 4:15 PM
 Subject: a new little thing about Mountain Lion



 christopher hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com Aug 23 10:09PM
 +0100

 Let us know please as I want to try Bootcamp at some stage.
 Thanks!On 23 Aug 2012, at 21:18, Ray Foret Jr wrote:


 christopher hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com Aug 23 10:10PM
 +0100

 Wow only downloaded Fusion 4 I think last night or the night before.
 On 23 Aug 2012, at 21:15, Joseph Norton wrote:


 Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com Aug 23 05:19PM -0400

 Then you should be eligible for a free upgrade.

 CB

 On 8/23/12 5:10 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:

 Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Aug 23 06:04PM -0400

 I would doubt it. Installing windows really has nothing to do with the 
 bootcamp set up at that point. It would be up to
MS to make the installation of windows accessible.

 Of course, as a parson who uses bootcamp, I hope I'm wrong. lol.

 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info


 Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com Aug 23 05:08PM -0500

 You're right. It'd be up to Microsoft to make windows installs
 accessible, since that progress bar is only for installing the mac side of 
 bootcamp.
 Unfortunately, Windows 8 will be the only version of windows for the
 first time 

Re: voices for the mack?

2012-08-24 Thread Christine Grassman
Ah. Another mystery solved, albeit with an unsatisfactory solution. :) 
On Aug 24, 2012, at 7:16 AM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote:

 Unfortunately, the premium quality nuance voices don't allow pitch to be 
 adjusted. I really wish they did. The compact
 versions allow for pitch adjustment, but the quality is horrible, at least in 
 my opinion.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman
 Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 7:11 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: voices for the mack?
 
 You do have to choose Customize. One thing that frustrates me about Lee is 
 that unlike Alex, I cannot change pitch or
 intonation for some reason: just rate and volume. Anyone know why this is?
 Christine
 On Aug 23, 2012, at 9:25 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi
 Yes there's Karen and Lee, and they are free.
 Go into VO utility and choose the voice row of the table there. Look 
 around in there. YOu may need to choose customise
 to find all the possible options. Karen premium is what I use. You need to 
 download her but she is worth the megabytes. No
 charge though.
 
 Lisette
 
 On 24/08/2012, at 1:19 PM, Chenelle Hancock filmchenelle1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 hi all,
 i wanted to know if there were any australian  voices for the mack that one 
 could purchase?
 thanks for your help.
 sincerely, chenelle
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 23/08/2012, at 18:28, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 Today's Topic Summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
 
• dumb mail question [2 Updates]
• a new little thing about Mountain Lion [8 Updates]
• Speaking rate in Voiceover [4 Updates]
• Is Facebook Now Completely Broken [1 Update]
• Best GPS app for iPhone [2 Updates]
• 1password accessibility [1 Update]
• Anyone has a link to a working version of Stanza? [1 Update]
• there's an update to Mountain Lion available [1 Update]
• TextEdit question [5 Updates]
 dumb mail question
 Bill Holton bill32...@gmail.com Aug 23 03:52PM -0400
 
 Hi.
 What is the best voiceover command to use that will get mail to 
 consistently open a web URL insight email?
 
 Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Aug 23 06:10PM -0400
 
 Hi,
 
 I would navigate by character to the url itself then press VO space. If 
 that fails you, do the same but instead of
 pressing VO space, press VO shift M to bring up the context menu and select 
 to open link or something like that.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 
 a new little thing about Mountain Lion Joseph Norton
 joseph.nor...@gmail.com Aug 23 04:15PM -0400
 
 Well, they finally did it!
 
 Now, when downloading the BootCamp Windows Support software, they finally 
 give you a progress report.
 
 Not a big thing, but, it's a tiny improvement.
 
 Now to try VMWare Fusion 5 and see what it can do.
 
 Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net Aug 23 03:18PM -0500
 
 So, does this make it possible for a blind person to install windows using 
 bootcamp independantly; or, need we wait for
 yet more work to be done?
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
 
 
 Christopher-Mark gilland clgillan...@gmail.com Aug 23 04:30PM
 -0400
 
 You know, that doesn't sound like that half bad of an idea. I too
 have vm ware 5, but have been really hesitant to install it and set
 a vm of Windows
 7 up on it as I was a little scared from the horror stories I
 heard... but then again, I guess that was from Boot Camp, not from Fusion, 
 huh.
 
 Anyways...
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Joseph Norton joseph.nor...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 4:15 PM
 Subject: a new little thing about Mountain Lion
 
 
 
 christopher hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com Aug 23 10:09PM
 +0100
 
 Let us know please as I want to try Bootcamp at some stage.
 Thanks!On 23 Aug 2012, at 21:18, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 
 christopher hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com Aug 23 10:10PM
 +0100
 
 Wow only downloaded Fusion 4 I think last night or the night before.
 On 23 Aug 2012, at 21:15, Joseph Norton wrote:
 
 
 Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com Aug 23 05:19PM -0400
 
 Then you should be eligible for a free upgrade.
 
 CB
 
 On 8/23/12 5:10 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:
 
 Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Aug 23 06:04PM -0400
 
 I would doubt it. Installing windows really has nothing to do with the 
 bootcamp set up at that point. It would be up to
 MS to make the installation of windows accessible.
 
 Of course, as a parson who uses bootcamp, I hope I'm wrong. lol.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 
 Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com Aug 23 05:08PM -0500
 
 You're right. It'd be up 

Re: Fusion 5.

2012-08-24 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Is that the Vmware fusion professional you get then? I couldn't get to the 
standard version and the page is a nightmare. Then when i finally had given up 
and decided to purchase the fusion pro guess what? After logging in, the thing 
said that the registration key i entered was either invalid or already 
registered so i growled and gave up.
/Krister

24 aug 2012 kl. 09:48 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com:

 The upgrade was £75,61 but have not had a chance to try it yet. It supports 
 windows 8.
 
 Kawal.
 
 On 24 Aug 2012, at 01:53 AM, Kliphton kliph...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 How much was the upgrade?  And how does it perform with your current copy of 
 windows?
 On Aug 23, 2012, at 7:51 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi All.
 
 Just to let you know that VMFusion 5 is out.
 
 If purchasing, please be careful as I purchased 10 licences by accident 
 without realising.  I couldn't believe the amount but customer services 
 were very helpful and I hope to get a refund soon after purchasing another 
 licence in order to get the refund.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: Facebook on IOS update

2012-08-24 Thread christopher hallsworth
Hello all I got it when I checked for updates in the app store.
On 24 Aug 2012, at 10:07, Paul Hunt wrote:

 Hello Wes. I don't see this update in the app store. Would you please give us 
 the complete app name and version? Where did you find it? Thanks so much.
 
 On Aug 23, 2012, at 11:44 PM, Wes Smith wessmith...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 WOW!
 It's completely accessible, at least from what I've seen so far…all buttons 
 are labeled, friend requests, ETC ETC….you can comment, like on all 
 posts…just tap (or in our case double tap), on the post you want to comment 
 on or like.
 The newsfeed starts below the status button….the status button is used to 
 update your status.
 Hope this helps you, it certainly looks to be very usable now….the only 
 thing is….IT NEEDS TO STAY THAT WAY
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Re: Really frustrated with Mail! For real this time!

2012-08-24 Thread christopher hallsworth
I can't say I am. I use Gmail via Pop. I also use my ISp's own e-mail service 
via Pop3. All are working great so far. This is under Lion.
On 24 Aug 2012, at 05:11, Veronica Elsea wrote:

 Hi everyone!
 I can't believe this issue is back. I'm so not happy right now. When I first 
 got this Macbook air, I was using pop mail. I had a ton of trouble sending 
 mail. It would come up and tell me it couldn't use the current sender. 
 Everything pointed to a bug in apple mail that they said they couldn't 
 duplicate consistantly enough to fix. The fix was to change to imap. So I put 
 the macbook awy till I learned about imap and made the switch. It worked 
 great for awhile. And now tonight, it's back to not being able to send again. 
 I actually had to save my last message in drafts and go to my windows 
 computer in order to send it. I know it's not a problem with my provider or 
 my settings because I went through this way too many times. How can I count 
 on this thing for email use when I'm traveling if this old buggaboo is back? 
 It makes me very sad in a way. Is anyone else here having this experience. 
 Thanks a bunch.
 Veronica
 
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Re: Facebook on IOS update

2012-08-24 Thread Rose Waagan
The app showed up just fine in my updates. You know, sometimes app updates just 
don't show up for a bit. I had the same thing happen to me once. People were 
telling me that some apps on the phone had updates, but the updates weren't 
showing up. If I were you, I'd type Facebook into the app store search field, 
find the standard Facebook app, and update from that screen. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 24, 2012, at 4:38 AM, christopher hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hello all I got it when I checked for updates in the app store.
 On 24 Aug 2012, at 10:07, Paul Hunt wrote:
 
 Hello Wes. I don't see this update in the app store. Would you please give 
 us the complete app name and version? Where did you find it? Thanks so much.
 
 On Aug 23, 2012, at 11:44 PM, Wes Smith wessmith...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 WOW!
 It's completely accessible, at least from what I've seen so far…all buttons 
 are labeled, friend requests, ETC ETC….you can comment, like on all 
 posts…just tap (or in our case double tap), on the post you want to comment 
 on or like.
 The newsfeed starts below the status button….the status button is used to 
 update your status.
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 thing is….IT NEEDS TO STAY THAT WAY
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install of iWork's09 on new macbook and new clean os

2012-08-24 Thread William Windels
Hello,
in 2009, before the mac-app store was there, I bought iWork's 09.
No, since I have a new clean install of the os 10.8 and a new macbook, it seems 
I have lost the copy of the install-files.

I can just copy the installed program from time-machine but it should be better 
to re-install the program?

Where can I find it or how can I get it?
Kind regards,
William Windels

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Re: install of iWork's09 on new macbook and new clean os

2012-08-24 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

Just copy it from time machine.  I doubt it will make any difference.

hth

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On Aug 24, 2012, at 8:28 AM, William Windels william.wind...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
 in 2009, before the mac-app store was there, I bought iWork's 09.
 No, since I have a new clean install of the os 10.8 and a new macbook, it 
 seems I have lost the copy of the install-files.
 
 I can just copy the installed program from time-machine but it should be 
 better to re-install the program?
 
 Where can I find it or how can I get it?
 Kind regards,
 William Windels
 
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Re: 1password accessibility

2012-08-24 Thread Paul Erkens
Hi Robert,

Thanks a lot for your answer. This will be useful later on. I would like to 
understand one more thing for now. I seem to have succeeded in storing one of 
my passwords inside 1password. 
While filling in a password on a site that 1password was not aware of, a 
1password dialog came up, asking me if I wanted to save this login for later. 
That was the first time I saw the 1password safari extension do something at 
all, that VoiceOver caught and spoke, so that is good news to begin with.

After having answered save, I was in, of course, because I myself gave the 
right password. But here's the problem.

As I understand it, there's a list of saved logins somewhere in 1password, 
where you can click a site, and be logged in right away.
1. Where is this thing located? In the extension, or in the 1password app? 
Clicking on a login inside the app lets me rename it, but not carry it out. In 
the extension, I don't find such a list.
2. Is this the way you go about logging in to sites, using the 1password logins 
list?

3. Alternatively, You wrote that if you go to a site where you want to be 
logged in, and you are on the page where the site asks your credentials, then 
you hit command backslash to be logged in. Is this correct at all? If I try 
this, nothing happens, and I still need to fill in the password myself. Am I 
overlooking something? I verified through the 1password app, that this very 
password for this very site is indeed stored, and it was captured automatically 
as described above. Is hitting command backslash on a login page enough to have 
1password do its thing? Seems, not on my machine.

Very interested to hear back on this, if you have any tips at all.
Thanks in advance for the time you have been taking to help me out with this. 
It is very much appreciated.
Paul.
On Aug 23, 2012, at 10:41 PM, Robert Carter nc5rn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Paul,
 
 I don't know for sure but am going to assume that you currently have the weak 
 password stored in 1password. Making that assumption, here is how I would 
 proceed.
 
 1. Open 1password go to file menu, down arrow to new item and press right 
 arrow to expand it.
 2. Down arrow to new password and press enter to open the dialogue.
 3. Use VO right arrow and you will see that 1password has generated a strong 
 password in this dialogue.
 4. VO right arrow past the password and use VO space on the copy button to 
 put the password on the clipboard.
 5. Open TextEdit and paste the password in to a blank document. I do this 
 because 1password only keeps the generated password on the clipboard for 90 
 seconds or whatever you have it set to.
 6. Highlight the password that is now in text edit and copy it to the 
 clipboard. This way you don't have to worry about it disappearing from the 
 clipboard.
 7. Open safari and go to the site where you want to change the password. Get 
 to the point on the site where you are being asked for the new password and 
 paste it in from the clipboard.
 8. Go back to 1password, to your logins and locate the login information for 
 the site that you just changed the password for.
 9. Interact with the scroll area in 1password and use VO right arrow to 
 navigate to the password field. Assuming that you have show passwords checked 
 in the view menu, you will see your old password for the site. Press command 
 e to allow you to edit this entry. Delete it and paste in the new password 
 that is still on the clipboard.
 10. Press command e again to tell 1password that you are finished editing.
 
 You now have the password changed on the site and also updated in 1password. 
 You can trash the text edit document and all is now right with the world.
 
 Robert Carter
 
 
 On Aug 23, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Robert,
 
 How do you go about the following with 1password. It's something I've been 
 struggling with the past few days but I can't get my head around it.
 
 Say I have a site where I have a weak login password, and I want to change 
 that into a strong one, generated by 1password, and also stored for later 
 use. I safari over to the page where I can fill in a new password. Then, 
 while on the field to enter my new password, I need 1password to generate a 
 password for me and store that. How do you do this? Very interested to know, 
 because it's driving me crazy, knowing that it is possible with VoiceOver 
 and I would love to use this feature.
 
 Paul.
 
 On Aug 21, 2012, at 11:32 PM, Robert Carter nc5rn...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I use 1password on both the Mac and on windows.
 
 After getting the safari extension installed, I simply press 
 command+backslash when I am on the login page for a site. 1password asks me 
 to enter my master password and it fills in the login information 
 automatically.
 
 This has worked well for me in both Lion and now Mountain Lion. I have 
 heard of others having difficulty with using the extension with VoiceOver.
 
 Robert 

Re: Awe, how coot! Look at the perty little Apple. Not?

2012-08-24 Thread Chris Blouch
And for just a bit of history, prior to the G4 powerbook all the logos 
were upside down. Apparently Steve J. wanted the Apple facing upright 
when you were first ready to open the laptop (best user experience) 
which meant that once it was open the Apple was standing on its head. 
That was fixed with the titanium powerbook G4 in 2001.


http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/22/tech/gaming-gadgets/apple-upside-down-logo/index.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerBook_G4

CB

On 8/24/12 6:44 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote:

Hi! On my 2011 macbook pro the brightness of the apple is dependent on the 
brightness of the screen. I don't have quite as
much vision as you do: only light and color perception out of my right eye, but 
a friend told me that as I dimmed the screen,
the apple was also dimming, so maybe it's a change they made in newer hardware? 
Personally, I wish I could see the apple; my
macbook has a blue shell, so the apple would light up blue, but my macbook 
almost always lives on a desk, so the apple only
shines on a wall and is never seen. I've only seen it once the first week I got 
the mac, and being the light junky that I am,
I loved it. You should see my PC tower; it would probably drive you nuts! 
Anyhoo, I know that what you want to do seems
possible with newer hardware, but am not sure how it could be done on the 
system you have. Good luck, and sorry for the
aimless rambling. I just woke up. LOL!
Missy

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On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark gilland
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 11:12 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Awe, how coot! Look at the perty little Apple. Not?

OK, so you're probably looking at my subject line going, what the... heck?
Hear me out.  Yes I was kind a kidding in the subject, but this actually is a 
true legitimate question, I swear.  LOL!

So, I can't speak for the macbook airs, nor for the macbook pros of any flavor, 
but I know at least that on the white
polly-carbon standard macbooks, if you look on the back of the screen, pretty 
much about in the dead smack center, you're
gonna feel ingraved cut into the plastic, a very tactal outline of an apple.  I 
know, you're probably going, yeah? so?
Here's the catch.  I dono if yall knew this, but, I have a bit more vision than 
just light preception.  I can't read the
screen, not even close, but I can see shape, color, light, and sometimes 
depending on the setting, even some very noticeable
facial expressions, so I'd say my vision loss is pretty significant, yes, but 
nowhere near total, thank God.  With this said,
I dono if yall knew this, but as long as the macbook's screen is up... opened 
rather, and as long as the system is on, who
cares if you're booted or if you have a crashed paper weight, God forbid, 
bottom line is, as long as it's opened and the unit
is powered on, that apple actually lights up.  No, I'm seriously not? kidding!  
Ask a sighted person if ya don't believe me.
And believe me, it's pretty much as bright as the screen would be at 100%.

Even hitting fn+F1 (as my keys are set to software by default, not 
hardware...), to dim the screen, that doesn't decrease the
brightness of the l e d in that apple.  So aside taking a drum set stick and 
going kurbango, Sm'm'mash! w'w'wack, on the
thing... ok, I'm kidding, LOL!  Seriously though... is there a way less 
distructively, LOL! to somehow use a 3rd party app,
or maybe something to modify the efi and allow me to have that stupid thing 
that does us blinks no good aside draining our
batteries quicker, not light up at all?

Honestly, it's driving me crazy!

Chris.

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Re: Facebook on IOS update

2012-08-24 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

It is not an iOS update, it is an update to the FaceBook app within the iOS 
platform.  If the badge is not appearing on your App Store icon, open the App 
Store on the iDevice and select the Updates tab in the bottom right.  If it is 
still not showing up, it may be related to the Store you're related with, that 
is, it may be out in the US Store, the Canada Store, but not yet in the UK or 
Australian Store.  The FaceBook update should appear soon everywhere.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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 Hi, what IOS update is this?
 
 On 24/08/2012, Wes Smith wessmith...@gmail.com wrote:
 WOW!
 It's completely accessible, at least from what I've seen so far…all buttons
 are labeled, friend requests, ETC ETC….you can comment, like on all
 posts…just tap (or in our case double tap), on the post you want to comment
 on or like.
 The newsfeed starts below the status button….the status button is used to
 update your status.
 Hope this helps you, it certainly looks to be very usable now….the only
 thing is….IT NEEDS TO STAY THAT WAY
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Re: Really frustrated with Mail! For real this time!

2012-08-24 Thread Alex Hall
Are you certain of your settings? Sometimes, an isp will change port
numbers or security settings and you may miss the memo, which can
cause previous settings to stop working. I know this isn't quite the
problem you are having, but it's all I can think of. Tripple check
your pop and smtp ports, security, authentication, and even username
settings (that is, does the username need to be just the first part of
your address or the whole thing). Hope this helps somewhat. For what
it's worth, I use gmail via imap and have no trouble at all.

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 I can't say I am. I use Gmail via Pop. I also use my ISp's own e-mail
 service via Pop3. All are working great so far. This is under Lion.
 On 24 Aug 2012, at 05:11, Veronica Elsea wrote:

 Hi everyone!
 I can't believe this issue is back. I'm so not happy right now. When I
 first got this Macbook air, I was using pop mail. I had a ton of trouble
 sending mail. It would come up and tell me it couldn't use the current
 sender. Everything pointed to a bug in apple mail that they said they
 couldn't duplicate consistantly enough to fix. The fix was to change to
 imap. So I put the macbook awy till I learned about imap and made the
 switch. It worked great for awhile. And now tonight, it's back to not
 being able to send again. I actually had to save my last message in drafts
 and go to my windows computer in order to send it. I know it's not a
 problem with my provider or my settings because I went through this way
 too many times. How can I count on this thing for email use when I'm
 traveling if this old buggaboo is back? It makes me very sad in a way. Is
 anyone else here having this experience. Thanks a bunch.
 Veronica

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Re: voices for the mack?

2012-08-24 Thread Alex Hall
Yes, the quality of the pitch change is really bad, making Serena
sound either like a female voice through a tape player with low
batteries or one set on high speed (though the speed remains constant,
it's just the pitch that goes crazy). My fondest wish for the mac is
still eSpeak, but I suppose it'd be impossible to make a voice for the
mac... or would it? Hmm, research to keep me busy this weekend...

On 8/24/12, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ah. Another mystery solved, albeit with an unsatisfactory solution. :)
 On Aug 24, 2012, at 7:16 AM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote:

 Unfortunately, the premium quality nuance voices don't allow pitch to be
 adjusted. I really wish they did. The compact
 versions allow for pitch adjustment, but the quality is horrible, at least
 in my opinion.

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 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman
 Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 7:11 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: voices for the mack?

 You do have to choose Customize. One thing that frustrates me about Lee is
 that unlike Alex, I cannot change pitch or
 intonation for some reason: just rate and volume. Anyone know why this
 is?
 Christine
 On Aug 23, 2012, at 9:25 PM, Lisette Wesseling
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi
 Yes there's Karen and Lee, and they are free.
 Go into VO utility and choose the voice row of the table there. Look
 around in there. YOu may need to choose customise
 to find all the possible options. Karen premium is what I use. You need to
 download her but she is worth the megabytes. No
 charge though.

 Lisette

 On 24/08/2012, at 1:19 PM, Chenelle Hancock filmchenelle1...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 hi all,
 i wanted to know if there were any australian  voices for the mack that
 one could purchase?
 thanks for your help.
 sincerely, chenelle

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 23/08/2012, at 18:28, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Today's Topic Summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics

   • dumb mail question [2 Updates]
   • a new little thing about Mountain Lion [8 Updates]
   • Speaking rate in Voiceover [4 Updates]
   • Is Facebook Now Completely Broken [1 Update]
   • Best GPS app for iPhone [2 Updates]
   • 1password accessibility [1 Update]
   • Anyone has a link to a working version of Stanza? [1 Update]
   • there's an update to Mountain Lion available [1 Update]
   • TextEdit question [5 Updates]
 dumb mail question
 Bill Holton bill32...@gmail.com Aug 23 03:52PM -0400

 Hi.
 What is the best voiceover command to use that will get mail to
 consistently open a web URL insight email?

 Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Aug 23 06:10PM -0400

 Hi,

 I would navigate by character to the url itself then press VO space. If
 that fails you, do the same but instead of
 pressing VO space, press VO shift M to bring up the context menu and
 select to open link or something like that.

 hth

 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info


 a new little thing about Mountain Lion Joseph Norton
 joseph.nor...@gmail.com Aug 23 04:15PM -0400

 Well, they finally did it!

 Now, when downloading the BootCamp Windows Support software, they
 finally give you a progress report.

 Not a big thing, but, it's a tiny improvement.

 Now to try VMWare Fusion 5 and see what it can do.

 Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net Aug 23 03:18PM -0500

 So, does this make it possible for a blind person to install windows
 using bootcamp independantly; or, need we wait for
 yet more work to be done?


 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

 Skype name:
 barefootedray


 Christopher-Mark gilland clgillan...@gmail.com Aug 23 04:30PM
 -0400

 You know, that doesn't sound like that half bad of an idea. I too
 have vm ware 5, but have been really hesitant to install it and set
 a vm of Windows
 7 up on it as I was a little scared from the horror stories I
 heard... but then again, I guess that was from Boot Camp, not from
 Fusion, huh.

 Anyways...

 Chris.

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 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 4:15 PM
 Subject: a new little thing about Mountain Lion



 christopher hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com Aug 23 10:09PM
 +0100

 Let us know please as I want to try Bootcamp at some stage.
 Thanks!On 23 Aug 2012, at 21:18, Ray Foret Jr wrote:


 christopher hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com Aug 23 10:10PM
 +0100

 Wow only downloaded Fusion 4 I think last night or the night before.
 On 23 Aug 2012, at 21:15, Joseph Norton wrote:


 Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com Aug 23 05:19PM -0400

 Then you should be eligible for a free upgrade.

 CB

 On 8/23/12 5:10 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:

 Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Aug 23 06:04PM -0400

 I would doubt it. 

Re: Facebook on IOS update

2012-08-24 Thread andre carioca
Hello all!

The new fersion of facebook app fron IOS is more accessible but
Voiceover do not read the friends list.

Best regards

Andre.



2012/8/24, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com:
 Hi,

 It is not an iOS update, it is an update to the FaceBook app within the iOS
 platform.  If the badge is not appearing on your App Store icon, open the
 App Store on the iDevice and select the Updates tab in the bottom right.  If
 it is still not showing up, it may be related to the Store you're related
 with, that is, it may be out in the US Store, the Canada Store, but not yet
 in the UK or Australian Store.  The FaceBook update should appear soon
 everywhere.

 Later...

 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada

 On 2012-08-24, at 2:35 AM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi, what IOS update is this?

 On 24/08/2012, Wes Smith wessmith...@gmail.com wrote:
 WOW!
 It's completely accessible, at least from what I've seen so far…all
 buttons
 are labeled, friend requests, ETC ETC….you can comment, like on all
 posts…just tap (or in our case double tap), on the post you want to
 comment
 on or like.
 The newsfeed starts below the status button….the status button is used
 to
 update your status.
 Hope this helps you, it certainly looks to be very usable now….the only
 thing is….IT NEEDS TO STAY THAT WAY
 WHS

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Re: Fleksy

2012-08-24 Thread Mike Busboom
Hello everyone,

Donna sort of brings up a point that would interest me.  How do you actually 
enter a word within Fleksy that isn't in its dictionary?  Is there a way to 
force the App to let you enter a word in the usual way?  Although I write 
lots of stuff on my iPhone in English, I sometimes need to enter names of 
restaurants, etc., whose names are German.

Thanks and happy fleksing!

Mike

On 19,Aug,2012, at 11:03 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:

 You know, it's hard to completely separate them.  I find that I have to 
 retype things a lot, often the word I'm aiming for isn't in the suggestions 
 list.  Which of course, makes the whole thing slower.  And when I go back and 
 read the text, there often seem to be a lot of junk characters mixed in.  It 
 may well be just that I need to put some time into getting used to it, but 
 unfortunately, time is one thing I don't have a lot of right now, what with a 
 recent move and a new job.  I do appreciate the list comments, though, since 
 you all seem to be getting good results, that speaks to the fact that it must 
 be possible. :)
 Take care,
 Donna
 On Aug 19, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Taylor Scott taylor9...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Is it the  accuracy of the words, or the speed that is giving you problems?
 
 I know for me it took some getting used to, to be fast with it.
 You spend a few years listening for a key, and with this app, the key
 is to quickly tap in the general direction of the key, and continue
 on.
 I still hesitate some when tiping, it's just habit.
 To get the best results is to try to tap the keys as fast as you can,
 and let Fleksy do it's work and guess the word. Of corse it's first
 guess may not be right, but once you get the speed down and flicking
 through the suggested words, I think you'll start to notice the apps
 potintial.
 Hope this helps.
 
 On 8/19/12, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 Hey Brandon,
 
 thanks for the tip - I did find the suggestions.  though personally I'm
 finding the app slow and not very accurate, I do assume there's a learning
 curve, and am intrigued by the results that others are reporting.  I think
 I'll keep playing with it for a while, and see if I notice improvement
 before making a final decision.
 thanks again,
 Donna
 On Aug 18, 2012, at 4:27 PM, Brandon Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Just want to point out one more thing, in case you didn't know.
 
 The great thing is that even if it doesn't guess the right word, you can
 flick down to get other suggestions. Unless the word isn't in its built-in
 dictionary, the word you want will most definitely be there.
 
 That is why you can just wildly guess, touching somewhere in the general
 vicinity of the letter but not really carrying how close it is, because
 that's enough to get the word to come up. Now I'm able to text just as
 fast, I think, as a sighted user.
 
 Did you read the full instructions? That may be useful.
 On Aug 18, 2012, at 3:10 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Wow, I'm not seeing anywhere near that level of accuracy.
 Cheers,
 Sauna
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 18, 2012, at 1:06 PM, Brandon Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 In the paid version, you can use the text for texting, emails, tweets,
 or anything else in any other app.
 
 It does save a lot of time once you get used to it. My wife and I are
 both now using it, and already our efficiency is probably a good 7-10
 times faster.
 
 I don't even try to get the right letter, just wild guesses, and it gets
 it right 90% of the time.
 
 Brandon
 On Aug 18, 2012, at 12:55 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hmm, interesting.  What's the difference between the free and paid
 versions?  I realize that there may be a learning curve, bus so far it
 doesn't seem to me that this app saves any time at all.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Aug 18, 2012, at 10:08 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 you download the free version and the sale price is an in app
 purchase.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Aug 18, 2012, at 10:52 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Interesting, I didn't see an option other than the free version.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Aug 18, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Brandon Olivares
 programmer2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No, the free version is only for testing. It's $4.99 for the full
 version.
 
 I just got it, and love it. I just wish there were an easier way to
 reply to text messages or emails with it.
 
 Brandon
 On Aug 18, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com
 wrote:
 
 I hate to say this, but today it's free!  Run, do not walk!
 Donna
 On Aug 17, 2012, at 9:52 PM, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 I just purchased it for $4.99.  Yay!  At least, that' what I
 think.  When I went through the in app purchase process it asked
 me if I was sure I wanted to buy it for $4.99.  I was passing this
 along in case 

Re: Editing software for the mac

2012-08-24 Thread Chris Blouch
You should be able to do that in Garage Band. If you're good with the 
Terminal you can try installing the MacPorts version of the Sox package 
which lets you do all kinds of audio manipulation from the command line.


CB

On 8/23/12 7:35 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote:

I mean take two mp3 files that are voice only and join the two together so you 
have one big file.
Is that a little clearer?

On Aug 23, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:


Hi,

merge mp3 files?  you mean for example, taking a vocal recording of say an 
interview, and merging it with a music track?

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Aug 23, 2012, at 6:54 PM, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote:


Hi all,
Can someone recommend some free software for the mac that will allow me to merge
mp3 files.
I need something that's really simple.
Thanks,
Stacey and Chesley

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Re: Editing software for the mac

2012-08-24 Thread Paul Erkens
Hi CB,

Wow this sounds very cool. how can one manipulate audio from the command line? 
Can you play audio, set markers interactively, nodge markers, cut copy and 
paste, mix tracks etc? The idea is interesting. How is this done? If you want 
to perform whatever function on a file, like mp3ing, normalizing, or applying 
whatever preset effect, that is rather straight forward as far as I understand, 
because all graphical tools are a shell around that type of core activity. But 
can you also delete a bit of audio from a file, if you don't know the start and 
end times yet, i.e. it being interactive?
Paul.
On Aug 24, 2012, at 4:59 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:

 You should be able to do that in Garage Band. If you're good with the 
 Terminal you can try installing the MacPorts version of the Sox package which 
 lets you do all kinds of audio manipulation from the command line.
 
 CB
 
 On 8/23/12 7:35 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
 I mean take two mp3 files that are voice only and join the two together so 
 you have one big file.
 Is that a little clearer?
 
 On Aug 23, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 merge mp3 files?  you mean for example, taking a vocal recording of say an 
 interview, and merging it with a music track?
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Aug 23, 2012, at 6:54 PM, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Can someone recommend some free software for the mac that will allow me to 
 merge
 mp3 files.
 I need something that's really simple.
 Thanks,
 Stacey and Chesley
 
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Re: Editing software for the mac

2012-08-24 Thread Stacey Robinson
Can someone give me step by step instructions on how to do this with garage 
band?

On Aug 24, 2012, at 9:59 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

 You should be able to do that in Garage Band. If you're good with the 
 Terminal you can try installing the MacPorts version of the Sox package which 
 lets you do all kinds of audio manipulation from the command line.
 
 CB
 
 On 8/23/12 7:35 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
 I mean take two mp3 files that are voice only and join the two together so 
 you have one big file.
 Is that a little clearer?
 
 On Aug 23, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 merge mp3 files?  you mean for example, taking a vocal recording of say an 
 interview, and merging it with a music track?
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Aug 23, 2012, at 6:54 PM, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Can someone recommend some free software for the mac that will allow me to 
 merge
 mp3 files.
 I need something that's really simple.
 Thanks,
 Stacey and Chesley
 
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Re: a new little thing about Mountain Lion

2012-08-24 Thread Mike Arrigo
With boot camp, you still run the windows install which can be a 
problem. The best way to install windows without sighted help is to use 
vmware fusion.

Original message:
So, does this make it possible for a blind person to install windows 
using bootcamp independantly; or, need we wait for yet more work to be done?




Sincerely,
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Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!



Skype name:
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On Aug 23, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Joseph Norton joseph.nor...@gmail.com 
mailto:joseph.nor...@gmail.com wrote:




Well, they finally did it!


Now, when downloading the BootCamp Windows Support software, they 
finally give you a progress report.



Not a big thing, but, it's a tiny improvement.



Now to try VMWare Fusion 5 and see what it can do.



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Re: Editing software for the mac

2012-08-24 Thread Chris

Please pass on editing instructions as well. Thanks!


Sent from my Windows laptop.

On 24/08/2012 16:05, Stacey Robinson wrote:

Can someone give me step by step instructions on how to do this with garage 
band?

On Aug 24, 2012, at 9:59 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:


You should be able to do that in Garage Band. If you're good with the Terminal 
you can try installing the MacPorts version of the Sox package which lets you 
do all kinds of audio manipulation from the command line.

CB

On 8/23/12 7:35 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote:

I mean take two mp3 files that are voice only and join the two together so you 
have one big file.
Is that a little clearer?

On Aug 23, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:


Hi,

merge mp3 files?  you mean for example, taking a vocal recording of say an 
interview, and merging it with a music track?

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Aug 23, 2012, at 6:54 PM, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote:


Hi all,
Can someone recommend some free software for the mac that will allow me to merge
mp3 files.
I need something that's really simple.
Thanks,
Stacey and Chesley

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Re: install of iWork's09 on new macbook and new clean os

2012-08-24 Thread William Windels
Hello,
it can't start because of a problem but no more specifications.

Op 24-aug.-2012, om 14:31 heeft Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com het 
volgende geschreven:

 Hi,
 
 Just copy it from time machine.  I doubt it will make any difference.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Aug 24, 2012, at 8:28 AM, William Windels william.wind...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello,
 in 2009, before the mac-app store was there, I bought iWork's 09.
 No, since I have a new clean install of the os 10.8 and a new macbook, it 
 seems I have lost the copy of the install-files.
 
 I can just copy the installed program from time-machine but it should be 
 better to re-install the program?
 
 Where can I find it or how can I get it?
 Kind regards,
 William Windels
 
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installing Windows in Fusion (was: a new little thing about Mountain Lion)

2012-08-24 Thread Alex Hall
Speaking of which, do you need the windows iso, or does vmware handle
that somehow? I know you'd need a key to stop windows from complaining
that it isn't genuine, but how does the actual install process work?

On 8/24/12, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote:
 With boot camp, you still run the windows install which can be a
 problem. The best way to install windows without sighted help is to use
 vmware fusion.
 Original message:
 So, does this make it possible for a blind person to install windows
 using bootcamp independantly; or, need we wait for yet more work to be
 done?


 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

 Skype name:
 barefootedray

 On Aug 23, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Joseph Norton joseph.nor...@gmail.com
 mailto:joseph.nor...@gmail.com wrote:


 Well, they finally did it!

 Now, when downloading the BootCamp Windows Support software, they
 finally give you a progress report.

 Not a big thing, but, it's a tiny improvement.

 Now to try VMWare Fusion 5 and see what it can do.

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RE: installing Windows in Fusion (was: a new little thing about Mountain Lion)

2012-08-24 Thread Daniel Miller
You need either the ISO, or a physical disc.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:21 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: installing Windows in Fusion (was: a new little thing about
Mountain Lion)

Speaking of which, do you need the windows iso, or does vmware handle that
somehow? I know you'd need a key to stop windows from complaining that it
isn't genuine, but how does the actual install process work?

On 8/24/12, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote:
 With boot camp, you still run the windows install which can be a 
 problem. The best way to install windows without sighted help is to 
 use vmware fusion.
 Original message:
 So, does this make it possible for a blind person to install windows 
 using bootcamp independantly; or, need we wait for yet more work to 
 be done?


 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

 Skype name:
 barefootedray

 On Aug 23, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Joseph Norton joseph.nor...@gmail.com 
 mailto:joseph.nor...@gmail.com wrote:


 Well, they finally did it!

 Now, when downloading the BootCamp Windows Support software, they 
 finally give you a progress report.

 Not a big thing, but, it's a tiny improvement.

 Now to try VMWare Fusion 5 and see what it can do.

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Re: voices for the mack?

2012-08-24 Thread Chris
Well Espeak is free and open source so why not port the code to the mac? 
Perhaps lack of interest is one reason.



Sent from my Windows laptop.

On 24/08/2012 15:49, Alex Hall wrote:

Yes, the quality of the pitch change is really bad, making Serena
sound either like a female voice through a tape player with low
batteries or one set on high speed (though the speed remains constant,
it's just the pitch that goes crazy). My fondest wish for the mac is
still eSpeak, but I suppose it'd be impossible to make a voice for the
mac... or would it? Hmm, research to keep me busy this weekend...

On 8/24/12, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote:

Ah. Another mystery solved, albeit with an unsatisfactory solution. :)
On Aug 24, 2012, at 7:16 AM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote:


Unfortunately, the premium quality nuance voices don't allow pitch to be
adjusted. I really wish they did. The compact
versions allow for pitch adjustment, but the quality is horrible, at least
in my opinion.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 7:11 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: voices for the mack?

You do have to choose Customize. One thing that frustrates me about Lee is
that unlike Alex, I cannot change pitch or
intonation for some reason: just rate and volume. Anyone know why this
is?
Christine
On Aug 23, 2012, at 9:25 PM, Lisette Wesseling
lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi
Yes there's Karen and Lee, and they are free.
Go into VO utility and choose the voice row of the table there. Look
around in there. YOu may need to choose customise

to find all the possible options. Karen premium is what I use. You need to
download her but she is worth the megabytes. No
charge though.


Lisette

On 24/08/2012, at 1:19 PM, Chenelle Hancock filmchenelle1...@gmail.com
wrote:


hi all,
i wanted to know if there were any australian  voices for the mack that
one could purchase?
thanks for your help.
sincerely, chenelle

Sent from my iPhone

On 23/08/2012, at 18:28, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:


Today's Topic Summary
Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics

• dumb mail question [2 Updates]
• a new little thing about Mountain Lion [8 Updates]
• Speaking rate in Voiceover [4 Updates]
• Is Facebook Now Completely Broken [1 Update]
• Best GPS app for iPhone [2 Updates]
• 1password accessibility [1 Update]
• Anyone has a link to a working version of Stanza? [1 Update]
• there's an update to Mountain Lion available [1 Update]
• TextEdit question [5 Updates]
dumb mail question
Bill Holton bill32...@gmail.com Aug 23 03:52PM -0400

Hi.
What is the best voiceover command to use that will get mail to
consistently open a web URL insight email?

Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Aug 23 06:10PM -0400

Hi,

I would navigate by character to the url itself then press VO space. If
that fails you, do the same but instead of

pressing VO space, press VO shift M to bring up the context menu and
select to open link or something like that.


hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info


a new little thing about Mountain Lion Joseph Norton
joseph.nor...@gmail.com Aug 23 04:15PM -0400

Well, they finally did it!

Now, when downloading the BootCamp Windows Support software, they
finally give you a progress report.

Not a big thing, but, it's a tiny improvement.

Now to try VMWare Fusion 5 and see what it can do.

Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net Aug 23 03:18PM -0500

So, does this make it possible for a blind person to install windows
using bootcamp independantly; or, need we wait for

yet more work to be done?



Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
barefootedray


Christopher-Mark gilland clgillan...@gmail.com Aug 23 04:30PM
-0400

You know, that doesn't sound like that half bad of an idea. I too
have vm ware 5, but have been really hesitant to install it and set
a vm of Windows
7 up on it as I was a little scared from the horror stories I
heard... but then again, I guess that was from Boot Camp, not from
Fusion, huh.

Anyways...

Chris.

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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 4:15 PM
Subject: a new little thing about Mountain Lion



christopher hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com Aug 23 10:09PM
+0100

Let us know please as I want to try Bootcamp at some stage.
Thanks!On 23 Aug 2012, at 21:18, Ray Foret Jr wrote:


christopher hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com Aug 23 10:10PM
+0100

Wow only downloaded Fusion 4 I think last night or the night before.
On 23 Aug 2012, at 21:15, Joseph Norton wrote:


Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com Aug 23 05:19PM -0400

Then you should be eligible for a free 

RE: install of iWork's09 on new macbook and new clean os

2012-08-24 Thread Daniel Miller
Hi,

How did you originally purchase iWork? If you somehow lost your dvd, you'll
need to rebuy each app from the mac app store, or possibly call apple and
see what, if anything, they can do for you to send you a replacement.


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of William Windels
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:21 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: install of iWork's09 on new macbook and new clean os

Hello,
it can't start because of a problem but no more specifications.

Op 24-aug.-2012, om 14:31 heeft Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com het
volgende geschreven:

 Hi,
 
 Just copy it from time machine.  I doubt it will make any difference.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Aug 24, 2012, at 8:28 AM, William Windels william.wind...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
 Hello,
 in 2009, before the mac-app store was there, I bought iWork's 09.
 No, since I have a new clean install of the os 10.8 and a new macbook, it
seems I have lost the copy of the install-files.
 
 I can just copy the installed program from time-machine but it should be
better to re-install the program?
 
 Where can I find it or how can I get it?
 Kind regards,
 William Windels
 
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Re: Fleksy

2012-08-24 Thread Tammy

Hi,

You can enter it manually, just hold your finger on the keyboard and after a 
second you'll hear the letter your finger's on.  Then just move your finger 
around and touch type as you normally would.  When you're done flick right 
to add the space and your word will be spoken, and you can then flick up to 
add it to the dictionary if you want to or just keep typing.


hth

Tammy

-Original Message- 
From: Mike Busboom

Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:58 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fleksy

Hello everyone,

Donna sort of brings up a point that would interest me.  How do you actually 
enter a word within Fleksy that isn't in its dictionary?  Is there a way to 
force the App to let you enter a word in the usual way?  Although I write 
lots of stuff on my iPhone in English, I sometimes need to enter names of 
restaurants, etc., whose names are German.


Thanks and happy fleksing!

Mike

On 19,Aug,2012, at 11:03 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:

You know, it's hard to completely separate them.  I find that I have to 
retype things a lot, often the word I'm aiming for isn't in the 
suggestions list.  Which of course, makes the whole thing slower.  And 
when I go back and read the text, there often seem to be a lot of junk 
characters mixed in.  It may well be just that I need to put some time 
into getting used to it, but unfortunately, time is one thing I don't have 
a lot of right now, what with a recent move and a new job.  I do 
appreciate the list comments, though, since you all seem to be getting 
good results, that speaks to the fact that it must be possible. :)

Take care,
Donna
On Aug 19, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Taylor Scott taylor9...@gmail.com wrote:

Is it the  accuracy of the words, or the speed that is giving you 
problems?


I know for me it took some getting used to, to be fast with it.
You spend a few years listening for a key, and with this app, the key
is to quickly tap in the general direction of the key, and continue
on.
I still hesitate some when tiping, it's just habit.
To get the best results is to try to tap the keys as fast as you can,
and let Fleksy do it's work and guess the word. Of corse it's first
guess may not be right, but once you get the speed down and flicking
through the suggested words, I think you'll start to notice the apps
potintial.
Hope this helps.

On 8/19/12, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:

Hey Brandon,

thanks for the tip - I did find the suggestions.  though personally I'm
finding the app slow and not very accurate, I do assume there's a 
learning
curve, and am intrigued by the results that others are reporting.  I 
think

I'll keep playing with it for a while, and see if I notice improvement
before making a final decision.
thanks again,
Donna
On Aug 18, 2012, at 4:27 PM, Brandon Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com
wrote:


Just want to point out one more thing, in case you didn't know.

The great thing is that even if it doesn't guess the right word, you 
can
flick down to get other suggestions. Unless the word isn't in its 
built-in

dictionary, the word you want will most definitely be there.

That is why you can just wildly guess, touching somewhere in the 
general

vicinity of the letter but not really carrying how close it is, because
that's enough to get the word to come up. Now I'm able to text just as
fast, I think, as a sighted user.

Did you read the full instructions? That may be useful.
On Aug 18, 2012, at 3:10 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:


Wow, I'm not seeing anywhere near that level of accuracy.
Cheers,
Sauna

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 18, 2012, at 1:06 PM, Brandon Olivares 
programmer2...@gmail.com

wrote:

In the paid version, you can use the text for texting, emails, 
tweets,

or anything else in any other app.

It does save a lot of time once you get used to it. My wife and I are
both now using it, and already our efficiency is probably a good 7-10
times faster.

I don't even try to get the right letter, just wild guesses, and it 
gets

it right 90% of the time.

Brandon
On Aug 18, 2012, at 12:55 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:


Hmm, interesting.  What's the difference between the free and paid
versions?  I realize that there may be a learning curve, bus so far 
it

doesn't seem to me that this app saves any time at all.
Cheers,
Donna
On Aug 18, 2012, at 10:08 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com
wrote:


Hi,

you download the free version and the sale price is an in app
purchase.

hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Aug 18, 2012, at 10:52 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com 
wrote:



Interesting, I didn't see an option other than the free version.
Cheers,
Donna
On Aug 18, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Brandon Olivares
programmer2...@gmail.com wrote:


No, the free version is only for testing. It's $4.99 for the full
version.

I just got it, and love it. I just wish there were an easier way 
to

reply to text messages or 

trying to update Flash player

2012-08-24 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi all,

I'm trying to update Adobe flash player, but am having trouble getting the 
mouse over to the Install button.  Does anyone know if there's a way to route 
the mouse to the item under keyboard focus?  Lacking that option, anyone have 
any other thoughts about how to accomplish this?  I've tried moving the mouse 
with the trackpad, but that hasn't worked well.
TIA,
Donna

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Re: trying to update Flash player

2012-08-24 Thread Rodney Haynie
Donna, did you try the Tab button yet. This works for me.

HTH.
Rodney

On Aug 24, 2012, at 11:31 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I'm trying to update Adobe flash player, but am having trouble getting the 
 mouse over to the Install button.  Does anyone know if there's a way to route 
 the mouse to the item under keyboard focus?  Lacking that option, anyone have 
 any other thoughts about how to accomplish this?  I've tried moving the mouse 
 with the trackpad, but that hasn't worked well.
 TIA,
 Donna
 
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Re: Fleksy

2012-08-24 Thread Jamie Tachiyama
It is true that you can enter things this way. One thing I have noticed though, 
it seems to slide over to the next letter vary easily. I generally find it to 
be slower to enter text this way due to the amount of corrections I have to 
make. 


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 24, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Tammy tcl...@rogers.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 You can enter it manually, just hold your finger on the keyboard and after a 
 second you'll hear the letter your finger's on.  Then just move your finger 
 around and touch type as you normally would.  When you're done flick right to 
 add the space and your word will be spoken, and you can then flick up to add 
 it to the dictionary if you want to or just keep typing.
 
 hth
 
 Tammy
 
 -Original Message- From: Mike Busboom
 Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:58 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Fleksy
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 Donna sort of brings up a point that would interest me.  How do you actually 
 enter a word within Fleksy that isn't in its dictionary?  Is there a way to 
 force the App to let you enter a word in the usual way?  Although I write 
 lots of stuff on my iPhone in English, I sometimes need to enter names of 
 restaurants, etc., whose names are German.
 
 Thanks and happy fleksing!
 
 Mike
 
 On 19,Aug,2012, at 11:03 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 You know, it's hard to completely separate them.  I find that I have to 
 retype things a lot, often the word I'm aiming for isn't in the suggestions 
 list.  Which of course, makes the whole thing slower.  And when I go back 
 and read the text, there often seem to be a lot of junk characters mixed in. 
  It may well be just that I need to put some time into getting used to it, 
 but unfortunately, time is one thing I don't have a lot of right now, what 
 with a recent move and a new job.  I do appreciate the list comments, 
 though, since you all seem to be getting good results, that speaks to the 
 fact that it must be possible. :)
 Take care,
 Donna
 On Aug 19, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Taylor Scott taylor9...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Is it the  accuracy of the words, or the speed that is giving you problems?
 
 I know for me it took some getting used to, to be fast with it.
 You spend a few years listening for a key, and with this app, the key
 is to quickly tap in the general direction of the key, and continue
 on.
 I still hesitate some when tiping, it's just habit.
 To get the best results is to try to tap the keys as fast as you can,
 and let Fleksy do it's work and guess the word. Of corse it's first
 guess may not be right, but once you get the speed down and flicking
 through the suggested words, I think you'll start to notice the apps
 potintial.
 Hope this helps.
 
 On 8/19/12, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 Hey Brandon,
 
 thanks for the tip - I did find the suggestions.  though personally I'm
 finding the app slow and not very accurate, I do assume there's a learning
 curve, and am intrigued by the results that others are reporting.  I think
 I'll keep playing with it for a while, and see if I notice improvement
 before making a final decision.
 thanks again,
 Donna
 On Aug 18, 2012, at 4:27 PM, Brandon Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Just want to point out one more thing, in case you didn't know.
 
 The great thing is that even if it doesn't guess the right word, you can
 flick down to get other suggestions. Unless the word isn't in its built-in
 dictionary, the word you want will most definitely be there.
 
 That is why you can just wildly guess, touching somewhere in the general
 vicinity of the letter but not really carrying how close it is, because
 that's enough to get the word to come up. Now I'm able to text just as
 fast, I think, as a sighted user.
 
 Did you read the full instructions? That may be useful.
 On Aug 18, 2012, at 3:10 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Wow, I'm not seeing anywhere near that level of accuracy.
 Cheers,
 Sauna
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 18, 2012, at 1:06 PM, Brandon Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 In the paid version, you can use the text for texting, emails, tweets,
 or anything else in any other app.
 
 It does save a lot of time once you get used to it. My wife and I are
 both now using it, and already our efficiency is probably a good 7-10
 times faster.
 
 I don't even try to get the right letter, just wild guesses, and it gets
 it right 90% of the time.
 
 Brandon
 On Aug 18, 2012, at 12:55 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hmm, interesting.  What's the difference between the free and paid
 versions?  I realize that there may be a learning curve, bus so far it
 doesn't seem to me that this app saves any time at all.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Aug 18, 2012, at 10:08 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 you download the free version and the sale price is an in app
 purchase.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 

Re: trying to update Flash player

2012-08-24 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi Rodney,

That was the first thing I tried, and it didn't work at all.  thanks for the 
suggestion, though.
Best,
Donna
On Aug 24, 2012, at 10:41 AM, Rodney Haynie rodney.hay...@gmail.com wrote:

 Donna, did you try the Tab button yet. This works for me.
 
 HTH.
 Rodney
 
 On Aug 24, 2012, at 11:31 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I'm trying to update Adobe flash player, but am having trouble getting the 
 mouse over to the Install button.  Does anyone know if there's a way to 
 route the mouse to the item under keyboard focus?  Lacking that option, 
 anyone have any other thoughts about how to accomplish this?  I've tried 
 moving the mouse with the trackpad, but that hasn't worked well.
 TIA,
 Donna
 
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Re: voices for the mack?

2012-08-24 Thread Alex Hall
It looks like it will run, but only as a stand-alone utility that you
can pass strings to to have them spoken. However, I'm looking at the
apple developer site, specifically at their speechSynthesizerManager
package. Maybe it's doable, I don't know. It must be possible if
Sepstral can do it, but I'll have to do more digging to see just what
work is required.

On 8/24/12, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well Espeak is free and open source so why not port the code to the mac?
 Perhaps lack of interest is one reason.


 Sent from my Windows laptop.

 On 24/08/2012 15:49, Alex Hall wrote:
 Yes, the quality of the pitch change is really bad, making Serena
 sound either like a female voice through a tape player with low
 batteries or one set on high speed (though the speed remains constant,
 it's just the pitch that goes crazy). My fondest wish for the mac is
 still eSpeak, but I suppose it'd be impossible to make a voice for the
 mac... or would it? Hmm, research to keep me busy this weekend...

 On 8/24/12, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ah. Another mystery solved, albeit with an unsatisfactory solution. :)
 On Aug 24, 2012, at 7:16 AM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote:

 Unfortunately, the premium quality nuance voices don't allow pitch to
 be
 adjusted. I really wish they did. The compact
 versions allow for pitch adjustment, but the quality is horrible, at
 least
 in my opinion.

 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine
 Grassman
 Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 7:11 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: voices for the mack?

 You do have to choose Customize. One thing that frustrates me about Lee
 is
 that unlike Alex, I cannot change pitch or
 intonation for some reason: just rate and volume. Anyone know why this
 is?
 Christine
 On Aug 23, 2012, at 9:25 PM, Lisette Wesseling
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi
 Yes there's Karen and Lee, and they are free.
 Go into VO utility and choose the voice row of the table there. Look
 around in there. YOu may need to choose customise
 to find all the possible options. Karen premium is what I use. You need
 to
 download her but she is worth the megabytes. No
 charge though.

 Lisette

 On 24/08/2012, at 1:19 PM, Chenelle Hancock
 filmchenelle1...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 hi all,
 i wanted to know if there were any australian  voices for the mack
 that
 one could purchase?
 thanks for your help.
 sincerely, chenelle

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 23/08/2012, at 18:28, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Today's Topic Summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics

 • dumb mail question [2 Updates]
 • a new little thing about Mountain Lion [8 Updates]
 • Speaking rate in Voiceover [4 Updates]
 • Is Facebook Now Completely Broken [1 Update]
 • Best GPS app for iPhone [2 Updates]
 • 1password accessibility [1 Update]
 • Anyone has a link to a working version of Stanza? [1 Update]
 • there's an update to Mountain Lion available [1 Update]
 • TextEdit question [5 Updates]
 dumb mail question
 Bill Holton bill32...@gmail.com Aug 23 03:52PM -0400

 Hi.
 What is the best voiceover command to use that will get mail to
 consistently open a web URL insight email?

 Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Aug 23 06:10PM -0400

 Hi,

 I would navigate by character to the url itself then press VO space.
 If
 that fails you, do the same but instead of
 pressing VO space, press VO shift M to bring up the context menu and
 select to open link or something like that.

 hth

 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info


 a new little thing about Mountain Lion Joseph Norton
 joseph.nor...@gmail.com Aug 23 04:15PM -0400

 Well, they finally did it!

 Now, when downloading the BootCamp Windows Support software, they
 finally give you a progress report.

 Not a big thing, but, it's a tiny improvement.

 Now to try VMWare Fusion 5 and see what it can do.

 Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net Aug 23 03:18PM -0500

 So, does this make it possible for a blind person to install windows
 using bootcamp independantly; or, need we wait for
 yet more work to be done?


 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

 Skype name:
 barefootedray


 Christopher-Mark gilland clgillan...@gmail.com Aug 23 04:30PM
 -0400

 You know, that doesn't sound like that half bad of an idea. I too
 have vm ware 5, but have been really hesitant to install it and set
 a vm of Windows
 7 up on it as I was a little scared from the horror stories I
 heard... but then again, I guess that was from Boot Camp, not from
 Fusion, huh.

 Anyways...

 Chris.

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Re: trying to update Flash player

2012-08-24 Thread Rodney Haynie
Hmmm... don't know then, except for asking if you have Tab automatically  
interact when you press it.


On Aug 24, 2012, at 11:44 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:

 Hi Rodney,
 
 That was the first thing I tried, and it didn't work at all.  thanks for the 
 suggestion, though.
 Best,
 Donna
 On Aug 24, 2012, at 10:41 AM, Rodney Haynie rodney.hay...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Donna, did you try the Tab button yet. This works for me.
 
 HTH.
 Rodney
 
 On Aug 24, 2012, at 11:31 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I'm trying to update Adobe flash player, but am having trouble getting the 
 mouse over to the Install button.  Does anyone know if there's a way to 
 route the mouse to the item under keyboard focus?  Lacking that option, 
 anyone have any other thoughts about how to accomplish this?  I've tried 
 moving the mouse with the trackpad, but that hasn't worked well.
 TIA,
 Donna
 
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Re: trying to update Flash player

2012-08-24 Thread Wes Smith
Tab works for me too

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 24, 2012, at 9:48 AM, Rodney Haynie rodney.hay...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hmmm... don't know then, except for asking if you have Tab automatically  
 interact when you press it.


 On Aug 24, 2012, at 11:44 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:

 Hi Rodney,

 That was the first thing I tried, and it didn't work at all.  thanks for the 
 suggestion, though.
 Best,
 Donna
 On Aug 24, 2012, at 10:41 AM, Rodney Haynie rodney.hay...@gmail.com wrote:

 Donna, did you try the Tab button yet. This works for me.

 HTH.
 Rodney

 On Aug 24, 2012, at 11:31 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 I'm trying to update Adobe flash player, but am having trouble getting the 
 mouse over to the Install button.  Does anyone know if there's a way to 
 route the mouse to the item under keyboard focus?  Lacking that option, 
 anyone have any other thoughts about how to accomplish this?  I've tried 
 moving the mouse with the trackpad, but that hasn't worked well.
 TIA,
 Donna

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Re: Fusion 5.

2012-08-24 Thread Rachel Feinberg
i've had the same exact results as you. I tried to purchase the professional 
since no standard version could be found on their site. then I put in my 
license key and it said it was already registered or invalid.
Any ideas on what can be done to fix this? 
Thanks!
Rachel
On Aug 24, 2012, at 4:36 AM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote:

 Is that the Vmware fusion professional you get then? I couldn't get to the 
 standard version and the page is a nightmare. Then when i finally had given 
 up and decided to purchase the fusion pro guess what? After logging in, the 
 thing said that the registration key i entered was either invalid or already 
 registered so i growled and gave up.
 /Krister
 
 24 aug 2012 kl. 09:48 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com:
 
 The upgrade was £75,61 but have not had a chance to try it yet. It supports 
 windows 8.
 
 Kawal.
 
 On 24 Aug 2012, at 01:53 AM, Kliphton kliph...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 How much was the upgrade?  And how does it perform with your current copy 
 of windows?
 On Aug 23, 2012, at 7:51 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi All.
 
 Just to let you know that VMFusion 5 is out.
 
 If purchasing, please be careful as I purchased 10 licences by accident 
 without realising.  I couldn't believe the amount but customer services 
 were very helpful and I hope to get a refund soon after purchasing another 
 licence in order to get the refund.
 
 Best regards,
 
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Re: trying to update Flash player

2012-08-24 Thread Donna Goodin
Yep, just checked to make sure, but yes, I have Tab set to interact 
automatically.
Cheers,
Donna
On Aug 24, 2012, at 10:48 AM, Rodney Haynie rodney.hay...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hmmm... don't know then, except for asking if you have Tab automatically  
 interact when you press it.
 
 
 On Aug 24, 2012, at 11:44 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Rodney,
 
 That was the first thing I tried, and it didn't work at all.  thanks for the 
 suggestion, though.
 Best,
 Donna
 On Aug 24, 2012, at 10:41 AM, Rodney Haynie rodney.hay...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Donna, did you try the Tab button yet. This works for me.
 
 HTH.
 Rodney
 
 On Aug 24, 2012, at 11:31 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I'm trying to update Adobe flash player, but am having trouble getting the 
 mouse over to the Install button.  Does anyone know if there's a way to 
 route the mouse to the item under keyboard focus?  Lacking that option, 
 anyone have any other thoughts about how to accomplish this?  I've tried 
 moving the mouse with the trackpad, but that hasn't worked well.
 TIA,
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Re: trying to update Flash player - problem solved

2012-08-24 Thread Donna Goodin
Well, tried again, and this time it worked.  Weird. 
Cheers,
Donna
On Aug 24, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:

 Hi Rodney,
 
 That was the first thing I tried, and it didn't work at all.  thanks for the 
 suggestion, though.
 Best,
 Donna
 On Aug 24, 2012, at 10:41 AM, Rodney Haynie rodney.hay...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Donna, did you try the Tab button yet. This works for me.
 
 HTH.
 Rodney
 
 On Aug 24, 2012, at 11:31 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I'm trying to update Adobe flash player, but am having trouble getting the 
 mouse over to the Install button.  Does anyone know if there's a way to 
 route the mouse to the item under keyboard focus?  Lacking that option, 
 anyone have any other thoughts about how to accomplish this?  I've tried 
 moving the mouse with the trackpad, but that hasn't worked well.
 TIA,
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Re: Awe, how coot! Look at the perty little Apple. Not?

2012-08-24 Thread Christopher-Mark gilland
Wow, you're right.  I wonder then why sometimes closing the screen doesn't 
make it stop lighting up for me.  This time, it worked, doing what you said, 
but there are those cases where it doesn't.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 11:55 PM
Subject: Re: Awe, how coot! Look at the perty little Apple. Not?


Hi,

it is just the backlight of your Macbook shining through a clear plastic 
apple on the lid.  Turn screen brightness to 0, and no more apple lighting 
up on your lid.


hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Aug 23, 2012, at 11:12 PM, Christopher-Mark gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


OK, so you're probably looking at my subject line going, what the... heck? 
Hear me out.  Yes I was kind a kidding in the subject, but this actually 
is a true legitimate question, I swear.  LOL!


So, I can't speak for the macbook airs, nor for the macbook pros of any 
flavor, but I know at least that on the white polly-carbon standard 
macbooks, if you look on the back of the screen, pretty much about in the 
dead smack center, you're gonna feel ingraved cut into the plastic, a very 
tactal outline of an apple.  I know, you're probably going, yeah? so? 
Here's the catch.  I dono if yall knew this, but, I have a bit more vision 
than just light preception.  I can't read the screen, not even close, but 
I can see shape, color, light, and sometimes depending on the setting, 
even some very noticeable facial expressions, so I'd say my vision loss is 
pretty significant, yes, but nowhere near total, thank God.  With this 
said, I dono if yall knew this, but as long as the macbook's screen is 
up... opened rather, and as long as the system is on, who cares if you're 
booted or if you have a crashed paper weight, God forbid, bottom line is, 
as long as it's opened and the unit is powered on, that apple actually 
lights up.  No, I'm seriously not? kidding!  Ask a sighted person if ya 
don't believe me.  And believe me, it's pretty much as bright as the 
screen would be at 100%.


Even hitting fn+F1 (as my keys are set to software by default, not 
hardware...), to dim the screen, that doesn't decrease the brightness of 
the l e d in that apple.  So aside taking a drum set stick and going 
kurbango, Sm'm'mash! w'w'wack, on the thing... ok, I'm kidding, LOL! 
Seriously though... is there a way less distructively, LOL! to somehow use 
a 3rd party app, or maybe something to modify the efi and allow me to have 
that stupid thing that does us blinks no good aside draining our batteries 
quicker, not light up at all?


Honestly, it's driving me crazy!

Chris.
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RE: Fusion 5.

2012-08-24 Thread Daniel Miller
There is a standard version on the website, for half the price.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rachel Feinberg
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 11:08 AM
To: Mac visionaries visionaries
Subject: Re: Fusion 5.

i've had the same exact results as you. I tried to purchase the professional
since no standard version could be found on their site. then I put in my
license key and it said it was already registered or invalid.
Any ideas on what can be done to fix this? 
Thanks!
Rachel
On Aug 24, 2012, at 4:36 AM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com
wrote:

 Is that the Vmware fusion professional you get then? I couldn't get to the
standard version and the page is a nightmare. Then when i finally had given
up and decided to purchase the fusion pro guess what? After logging in, the
thing said that the registration key i entered was either invalid or already
registered so i growled and gave up.
 /Krister
 
 24 aug 2012 kl. 09:48 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com:
 
 The upgrade was £75,61 but have not had a chance to try it yet. It
supports windows 8.
 
 Kawal.
 
 On 24 Aug 2012, at 01:53 AM, Kliphton kliph...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 How much was the upgrade?  And how does it perform with your current
copy of windows?
 On Aug 23, 2012, at 7:51 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi All.
 
 Just to let you know that VMFusion 5 is out.
 
 If purchasing, please be careful as I purchased 10 licences by accident
without realising.  I couldn't believe the amount but customer services were
very helpful and I hope to get a refund soon after purchasing another
licence in order to get the refund.
 
 Best regards,
 
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Re: trying to update Flash player - problem solved

2012-08-24 Thread Justin Ekis
Hi Donna,

Here's a tip for next time you update flash. After pressing tab to get to the 
correct button, using VO+space doesn't work as expected. You need to simply 
press only the space bar. It's weird, but for some reason that's how it works 
in this particular  installer. I got to this thread too late to help you this 
time, but this should explain what the problem was. I found this out by 
pressing everything I could think of until something worked. Took me a few 
updates to be sure what the answer was.

Justin

On Aug 24, 2012, at 9:24 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:

 Well, tried again, and this time it worked.  Weird. 
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Aug 24, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Rodney,
 
 That was the first thing I tried, and it didn't work at all.  thanks for the 
 suggestion, though.
 Best,
 Donna
 On Aug 24, 2012, at 10:41 AM, Rodney Haynie rodney.hay...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Donna, did you try the Tab button yet. This works for me.
 
 HTH.
 Rodney
 
 On Aug 24, 2012, at 11:31 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I'm trying to update Adobe flash player, but am having trouble getting the 
 mouse over to the Install button.  Does anyone know if there's a way to 
 route the mouse to the item under keyboard focus?  Lacking that option, 
 anyone have any other thoughts about how to accomplish this?  I've tried 
 moving the mouse with the trackpad, but that hasn't worked well.
 TIA,
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Re: Facebook on IOS update

2012-08-24 Thread Christopher-Mark gilland

It's not an I O S update.  It's an update to the Facebok app.

Chris;.

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Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 4:35 AM
Subject: Re: Facebook on IOS update


Hi, what IOS update is this?

On 24/08/2012, Wes Smith wessmith...@gmail.com wrote:

WOW!
It's completely accessible, at least from what I've seen so far…all 
buttons

are labeled, friend requests, ETC ETC….you can comment, like on all
posts…just tap (or in our case double tap), on the post you want to 
comment

on or like.
The newsfeed starts below the status button….the status button is used 
to

update your status.
Hope this helps you, it certainly looks to be very usable now….the only
thing is….IT NEEDS TO STAY THAT WAY
WHS

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Re: Awe, how coot! Look at the perty little Apple. Not?

2012-08-24 Thread Christopher-Mark gilland
A blue shell?  I thought that the pros were a light aluminum silver, and the 
polly carbon ones like I have were all solid snow white.  I didn't think 
they made the systems in multi colors.  How did you manage to make your's be 
blue?


Chris.

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Re: voices for the mack?

2012-08-24 Thread Christopher-Mark gilland

There's a reason for this.

The higher quality voices are actually sampled, like, from a real human, so 
obviusly being it's an actual sampled recording, you're not gonna be able to 
move the pitch.


I can't speak for the compact voices as I never use 'em.

Chris.

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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 7:16 AM
Subject: RE: voices for the mack?


Unfortunately, the premium quality nuance voices don't allow pitch to be 
adjusted. I really wish they did. The compact
versions allow for pitch adjustment, but the quality is horrible, at least 
in my opinion.


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman

Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 7:11 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: voices for the mack?

You do have to choose Customize. One thing that frustrates me about Lee is 
that unlike Alex, I cannot change pitch or

intonation for some reason: just rate and volume. Anyone know why this is?
Christine
On Aug 23, 2012, at 9:25 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
wrote:



Hi
Yes there's Karen and Lee, and they are free.
Go into VO utility and choose the voice row of the table there. Look 
around in there. YOu may need to choose customise
to find all the possible options. Karen premium is what I use. You need to 
download her but she is worth the megabytes. No

charge though.


Lisette

On 24/08/2012, at 1:19 PM, Chenelle Hancock filmchenelle1...@gmail.com 
wrote:



hi all,
i wanted to know if there were any australian  voices for the mack that 
one could purchase?

thanks for your help.
sincerely, chenelle

Sent from my iPhone

On 23/08/2012, at 18:28, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:


 Today's Topic Summary
Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics

• dumb mail question [2 Updates]
• a new little thing about Mountain Lion [8 Updates]
• Speaking rate in Voiceover [4 Updates]
• Is Facebook Now Completely Broken [1 Update]
• Best GPS app for iPhone [2 Updates]
• 1password accessibility [1 Update]
• Anyone has a link to a working version of Stanza? [1 Update]
• there's an update to Mountain Lion available [1 Update]
• TextEdit question [5 Updates]
dumb mail question
Bill Holton bill32...@gmail.com Aug 23 03:52PM -0400

Hi.
What is the best voiceover command to use that will get mail to 
consistently open a web URL insight email?


Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Aug 23 06:10PM -0400

Hi,

I would navigate by character to the url itself then press VO space. If 
that fails you, do the same but instead of
pressing VO space, press VO shift M to bring up the context menu and select 
to open link or something like that.


hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info


a new little thing about Mountain Lion Joseph Norton
joseph.nor...@gmail.com Aug 23 04:15PM -0400

Well, they finally did it!

Now, when downloading the BootCamp Windows Support software, they 
finally give you a progress report.


Not a big thing, but, it's a tiny improvement.

Now to try VMWare Fusion 5 and see what it can do.

Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net Aug 23 03:18PM -0500

So, does this make it possible for a blind person to install windows 
using bootcamp independantly; or, need we wait for

yet more work to be done?



Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
barefootedray


Christopher-Mark gilland clgillan...@gmail.com Aug 23 04:30PM
-0400

You know, that doesn't sound like that half bad of an idea. I too
have vm ware 5, but have been really hesitant to install it and set
a vm of Windows
7 up on it as I was a little scared from the horror stories I
heard... but then again, I guess that was from Boot Camp, not from 
Fusion, huh.


Anyways...

Chris.

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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 4:15 PM
Subject: a new little thing about Mountain Lion



christopher hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com Aug 23 10:09PM
+0100

Let us know please as I want to try Bootcamp at some stage.
Thanks!On 23 Aug 2012, at 21:18, Ray Foret Jr wrote:


christopher hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com Aug 23 10:10PM
+0100

Wow only downloaded Fusion 4 I think last night or the night before.
On 23 Aug 2012, at 21:15, Joseph Norton wrote:


Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com Aug 23 05:19PM -0400

Then you should be eligible for a free upgrade.

CB

On 8/23/12 5:10 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:

Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Aug 23 06:04PM -0400

I would doubt it. Installing windows really has nothing to do with the 
bootcamp set up at that point. It would be up to

MS to make the installation of windows accessible.


Of course, as a parson who uses bootcamp, I hope I'm wrong. lol.

Ricardo Walker

Re: Editing software for the mac

2012-08-24 Thread Chris Blouch

Easiest thing is to check out their documentation:

http://sox.sourceforge.net/Docs/Documentation

You can ignore all the installation stuff since you'd probably just do 
it through macports. That said, it's all parameters you type on a 
command line. Sox adds three new commands - sox, play rec. Play and Rec 
are just aliases to Sox with parameters to set it to play or record so 
you really could do everything with just sox. So, for example, if I want 
to play two files one after another I would type


sox filename.mp3 filename2.mp3 -d

which is the same as

play filename.mp3 filename2.mp3

or to play everything in a folder

play mystuff/*.mp3

It's not interactive, it's all parameters. So to play the first 10 
seconds of a track you would do


play filename.mp3 trim 0 0:10

To concatenate two audio files

sox file1.mp3 file2.mp3 outputfile.mp3

To play them at the same time

play -m file1.mp3 file2.mp3

To play a file faster

play file1.mp3 speed 1.25

and on and on with infinite combinations.

CB

On 8/24/12 11:05 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:

Hi CB,

Wow this sounds very cool. how can one manipulate audio from the command line? 
Can you play audio, set markers interactively, nodge markers, cut copy and 
paste, mix tracks etc? The idea is interesting. How is this done? If you want 
to perform whatever function on a file, like mp3ing, normalizing, or applying 
whatever preset effect, that is rather straight forward as far as I understand, 
because all graphical tools are a shell around that type of core activity. But 
can you also delete a bit of audio from a file, if you don't know the start and 
end times yet, i.e. it being interactive?
Paul.
On Aug 24, 2012, at 4:59 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:


You should be able to do that in Garage Band. If you're good with the Terminal 
you can try installing the MacPorts version of the Sox package which lets you 
do all kinds of audio manipulation from the command line.

CB

On 8/23/12 7:35 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote:

I mean take two mp3 files that are voice only and join the two together so you 
have one big file.
Is that a little clearer?

On Aug 23, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:


Hi,

merge mp3 files?  you mean for example, taking a vocal recording of say an 
interview, and merging it with a music track?

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Aug 23, 2012, at 6:54 PM, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote:


Hi all,
Can someone recommend some free software for the mac that will allow me to merge
mp3 files.
I need something that's really simple.
Thanks,
Stacey and Chesley

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Re: voices for the mack?

2012-08-24 Thread Christopher-Mark gilland
They have actually ported ESpeak, but I don't think they got it where it 
works with Voiceover.  I think it only seems to work with it's own little 
utility that you run through Terminal.  Even with that though, I never 
seemed to b able to make it work.  Not even in Terminal, that suits me fine 
though as and ok, no one shoot me, here, K? This only is an opinion, take it 
or leave it, but don't slauder me!  I can't stand! ESpeak.  I listen to it 
for less than 2 minutes and walk away with a head ache.


Chris.

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From: Chris christopher...@gmail.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: voices for the mack?


Well Espeak is free and open source so why not port the code to the mac?
Perhaps lack of interest is one reason.


Sent from my Windows laptop.

On 24/08/2012 15:49, Alex Hall wrote:

Yes, the quality of the pitch change is really bad, making Serena
sound either like a female voice through a tape player with low
batteries or one set on high speed (though the speed remains constant,
it's just the pitch that goes crazy). My fondest wish for the mac is
still eSpeak, but I suppose it'd be impossible to make a voice for the
mac... or would it? Hmm, research to keep me busy this weekend...

On 8/24/12, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote:

Ah. Another mystery solved, albeit with an unsatisfactory solution. :)
On Aug 24, 2012, at 7:16 AM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote:


Unfortunately, the premium quality nuance voices don't allow pitch to be
adjusted. I really wish they did. The compact
versions allow for pitch adjustment, but the quality is horrible, at 
least

in my opinion.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 7:11 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: voices for the mack?

You do have to choose Customize. One thing that frustrates me about Lee 
is

that unlike Alex, I cannot change pitch or
intonation for some reason: just rate and volume. Anyone know why this
is?
Christine
On Aug 23, 2012, at 9:25 PM, Lisette Wesseling
lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi
Yes there's Karen and Lee, and they are free.
Go into VO utility and choose the voice row of the table there. Look
around in there. YOu may need to choose customise
to find all the possible options. Karen premium is what I use. You need 
to

download her but she is worth the megabytes. No
charge though.


Lisette

On 24/08/2012, at 1:19 PM, Chenelle Hancock 
filmchenelle1...@gmail.com

wrote:


hi all,
i wanted to know if there were any australian  voices for the mack 
that

one could purchase?
thanks for your help.
sincerely, chenelle

Sent from my iPhone

On 23/08/2012, at 18:28, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:


Today's Topic Summary
Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics

• dumb mail question [2 Updates]
• a new little thing about Mountain Lion [8 Updates]
• Speaking rate in Voiceover [4 Updates]
• Is Facebook Now Completely Broken [1 Update]
• Best GPS app for iPhone [2 Updates]
• 1password accessibility [1 Update]
• Anyone has a link to a working version of Stanza? [1 Update]
• there's an update to Mountain Lion available [1 Update]
• TextEdit question [5 Updates]
dumb mail question
Bill Holton bill32...@gmail.com Aug 23 03:52PM -0400

Hi.
What is the best voiceover command to use that will get mail to
consistently open a web URL insight email?

Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Aug 23 06:10PM -0400

Hi,

I would navigate by character to the url itself then press VO space. 
If

that fails you, do the same but instead of

pressing VO space, press VO shift M to bring up the context menu and
select to open link or something like that.


hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info


a new little thing about Mountain Lion Joseph Norton
joseph.nor...@gmail.com Aug 23 04:15PM -0400

Well, they finally did it!

Now, when downloading the BootCamp Windows Support software, they
finally give you a progress report.

Not a big thing, but, it's a tiny improvement.

Now to try VMWare Fusion 5 and see what it can do.

Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net Aug 23 03:18PM -0500

So, does this make it possible for a blind person to install windows
using bootcamp independantly; or, need we wait for

yet more work to be done?



Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
barefootedray


Christopher-Mark gilland clgillan...@gmail.com Aug 23 04:30PM
-0400

You know, that doesn't sound like that half bad of an idea. I too
have vm ware 5, but have been really hesitant to install it and set
a vm of Windows
7 up on it as I was a little scared from the horror stories I
heard... but then again, I guess that was from Boot Camp, not from
Fusion, huh.

Anyways...

Chris.

- Original Message -
From: 

Re: Really frustrated with Mail! For real this time!

2012-08-24 Thread Steve Holmes
Likewise, I have never had any issues sending messages from Mail in
Lion or Mountain Lion.  I use gmail with IMAP to receive and of course
SMTP to send.  The only thing I have ever experienced is I usually
hear a swush sound when messages are being sent and sometimes, I'll do
the send with Command-Shift-D and not hear the sound; makes me wonder
if the message didn't get sent but yet no errors popped up either.  I
just chock those up to flukes or something.

On 8/24/12, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Are you certain of your settings? Sometimes, an isp will change port
 numbers or security settings and you may miss the memo, which can
 cause previous settings to stop working. I know this isn't quite the
 problem you are having, but it's all I can think of. Tripple check
 your pop and smtp ports, security, authentication, and even username
 settings (that is, does the username need to be just the first part of
 your address or the whole thing). Hope this helps somewhat. For what
 it's worth, I use gmail via imap and have no trouble at all.

 On 8/24/12, christopher hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 I can't say I am. I use Gmail via Pop. I also use my ISp's own e-mail
 service via Pop3. All are working great so far. This is under Lion.
 On 24 Aug 2012, at 05:11, Veronica Elsea wrote:

 Hi everyone!
 I can't believe this issue is back. I'm so not happy right now. When I
 first got this Macbook air, I was using pop mail. I had a ton of trouble
 sending mail. It would come up and tell me it couldn't use the current
 sender. Everything pointed to a bug in apple mail that they said they
 couldn't duplicate consistantly enough to fix. The fix was to change to
 imap. So I put the macbook awy till I learned about imap and made the
 switch. It worked great for awhile. And now tonight, it's back to not
 being able to send again. I actually had to save my last message in
 drafts
 and go to my windows computer in order to send it. I know it's not a
 problem with my provider or my settings because I went through this way
 too many times. How can I count on this thing for email use when I'm
 traveling if this old buggaboo is back? It makes me very sad in a way.
 Is
 anyone else here having this experience. Thanks a bunch.
 Veronica

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Re: voices for the mack?

2012-08-24 Thread Alex Hall
I used to be that way. I had no choice but to use NVDA for a while,
though, and within 4 weeks I was a convert. I now prefer it above
almost any other synth, especially at high speeds; using NVDA with is,
I have my speech rate at 100% and have no trouble understanding it.
Try that with Alex...

On 8/24/12, Christopher-Mark gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 They have actually ported ESpeak, but I don't think they got it where it
 works with Voiceover.  I think it only seems to work with it's own little
 utility that you run through Terminal.  Even with that though, I never
 seemed to b able to make it work.  Not even in Terminal, that suits me fine

 though as and ok, no one shoot me, here, K? This only is an opinion, take it

 or leave it, but don't slauder me!  I can't stand! ESpeak.  I listen to it
 for less than 2 minutes and walk away with a head ache.

 Chris.

 - Original Message -
 From: Chris christopher...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 11:22 AM
 Subject: Re: voices for the mack?


 Well Espeak is free and open source so why not port the code to the mac?
 Perhaps lack of interest is one reason.


 Sent from my Windows laptop.

 On 24/08/2012 15:49, Alex Hall wrote:
 Yes, the quality of the pitch change is really bad, making Serena
 sound either like a female voice through a tape player with low
 batteries or one set on high speed (though the speed remains constant,
 it's just the pitch that goes crazy). My fondest wish for the mac is
 still eSpeak, but I suppose it'd be impossible to make a voice for the
 mac... or would it? Hmm, research to keep me busy this weekend...

 On 8/24/12, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ah. Another mystery solved, albeit with an unsatisfactory solution. :)
 On Aug 24, 2012, at 7:16 AM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote:

 Unfortunately, the premium quality nuance voices don't allow pitch to
 be
 adjusted. I really wish they did. The compact
 versions allow for pitch adjustment, but the quality is horrible, at
 least
 in my opinion.

 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine
 Grassman
 Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 7:11 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: voices for the mack?

 You do have to choose Customize. One thing that frustrates me about Lee

 is
 that unlike Alex, I cannot change pitch or
 intonation for some reason: just rate and volume. Anyone know why this
 is?
 Christine
 On Aug 23, 2012, at 9:25 PM, Lisette Wesseling
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi
 Yes there's Karen and Lee, and they are free.
 Go into VO utility and choose the voice row of the table there. Look
 around in there. YOu may need to choose customise
 to find all the possible options. Karen premium is what I use. You need

 to
 download her but she is worth the megabytes. No
 charge though.

 Lisette

 On 24/08/2012, at 1:19 PM, Chenelle Hancock
 filmchenelle1...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 hi all,
 i wanted to know if there were any australian  voices for the mack
 that
 one could purchase?
 thanks for your help.
 sincerely, chenelle

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 23/08/2012, at 18:28, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Today's Topic Summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics

 • dumb mail question [2 Updates]
 • a new little thing about Mountain Lion [8 Updates]
 • Speaking rate in Voiceover [4 Updates]
 • Is Facebook Now Completely Broken [1 Update]
 • Best GPS app for iPhone [2 Updates]
 • 1password accessibility [1 Update]
 • Anyone has a link to a working version of Stanza? [1 Update]
 • there's an update to Mountain Lion available [1 Update]
 • TextEdit question [5 Updates]
 dumb mail question
 Bill Holton bill32...@gmail.com Aug 23 03:52PM -0400

 Hi.
 What is the best voiceover command to use that will get mail to
 consistently open a web URL insight email?

 Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Aug 23 06:10PM -0400

 Hi,

 I would navigate by character to the url itself then press VO space.

 If
 that fails you, do the same but instead of
 pressing VO space, press VO shift M to bring up the context menu and
 select to open link or something like that.

 hth

 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info


 a new little thing about Mountain Lion Joseph Norton
 joseph.nor...@gmail.com Aug 23 04:15PM -0400

 Well, they finally did it!

 Now, when downloading the BootCamp Windows Support software, they
 finally give you a progress report.

 Not a big thing, but, it's a tiny improvement.

 Now to try VMWare Fusion 5 and see what it can do.

 Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net Aug 23 03:18PM -0500

 So, does this make it possible for a blind person to install windows
 using bootcamp independantly; or, need we wait for
 yet more work to be done?


 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

 

RE: Awe, how coot! Look at the perty little Apple. Not?

2012-08-24 Thread Missy Hoppe
I bought the protective shell separately. You can get virtually any color you 
want from Amazon. They're around $20, and I
think the quality is outstanding. The shell doesn't interfere with any ports at 
allk, and it makes it look as though I have a
pretty blue macbook. I also like that the shell was simple as pie to put on. I 
had it installed in less than a minute.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark gilland
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 12:47 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Awe, how coot! Look at the perty little Apple. Not?

A blue shell?  I thought that the pros were a light aluminum silver, and the 
polly carbon ones like I have were all solid
snow white.  I didn't think they made the systems in multi colors.  How did you 
manage to make your's be blue?

Chris.

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removing Carbon coppy Cloner

2012-08-24 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Hi,

I'm gonna switch over from Carbon copy cloner to Super Duper.  Am I correct in 
guessing that there is no uninstall app for Carbon Coppy Cloner and that all I 
need do is remove it from the apps folder?

Also, High time I put an anti virus app on here.  Which is more accessible 
between Clamax and Soho?

Thanks.


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Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
barefootedray

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Re: install of iWork's09 on new macbook and new clean os

2012-08-24 Thread John Panarese
   Just be aware that if you have the oritinal CD and try to install it, you 
will have problems.  What I had to do was copy the preference files for iWorks 
from my user library from a time machine backup and copy them onto the clean 
install.  Hopefully, you still have access to an install of Mountain Lion in 
which you were running iWorks.  This will enable you to use it.


Take Care

John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com

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On Aug 24, 2012, at 8:28 AM, William Windels william.wind...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
 in 2009, before the mac-app store was there, I bought iWork's 09.
 No, since I have a new clean install of the os 10.8 and a new macbook, it 
 seems I have lost the copy of the install-files.
 
 I can just copy the installed program from time-machine but it should be 
 better to re-install the program?
 
 Where can I find it or how can I get it?
 Kind regards,
 William Windels
 
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Re: voices for the mack?

2012-08-24 Thread Chris Blouch
Of course if all you get is a terminal command to say text then you 
might as well use the OSX voiceover one and just do


say abcdefg

CB

On 8/24/12 12:54 PM, Christopher-Mark gilland wrote:
They have actually ported ESpeak, but I don't think they got it where 
it works with Voiceover.  I think it only seems to work with it's own 
little utility that you run through Terminal.  Even with that though, 
I never seemed to b able to make it work.  Not even in Terminal, that 
suits me fine though as and ok, no one shoot me, here, K? This only is 
an opinion, take it or leave it, but don't slauder me!  I can't stand! 
ESpeak.  I listen to it for less than 2 minutes and walk away with a 
head ache.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Chris christopher...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: voices for the mack?


Well Espeak is free and open source so why not port the code to the mac?
Perhaps lack of interest is one reason.


Sent from my Windows laptop.

On 24/08/2012 15:49, Alex Hall wrote:

Yes, the quality of the pitch change is really bad, making Serena
sound either like a female voice through a tape player with low
batteries or one set on high speed (though the speed remains constant,
it's just the pitch that goes crazy). My fondest wish for the mac is
still eSpeak, but I suppose it'd be impossible to make a voice for the
mac... or would it? Hmm, research to keep me busy this weekend...

On 8/24/12, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote:

Ah. Another mystery solved, albeit with an unsatisfactory solution. :)
On Aug 24, 2012, at 7:16 AM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com 
wrote:


Unfortunately, the premium quality nuance voices don't allow pitch 
to be

adjusted. I really wish they did. The compact
versions allow for pitch adjustment, but the quality is horrible, 
at least

in my opinion.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine 
Grassman

Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 7:11 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: voices for the mack?

You do have to choose Customize. One thing that frustrates me about 
Lee is

that unlike Alex, I cannot change pitch or
intonation for some reason: just rate and volume. Anyone know why this
is?
Christine
On Aug 23, 2012, at 9:25 PM, Lisette Wesseling
lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi
Yes there's Karen and Lee, and they are free.
Go into VO utility and choose the voice row of the table there. 
Look

around in there. YOu may need to choose customise
to find all the possible options. Karen premium is what I use. You 
need to

download her but she is worth the megabytes. No
charge though.


Lisette

On 24/08/2012, at 1:19 PM, Chenelle Hancock 
filmchenelle1...@gmail.com

wrote:


hi all,
i wanted to know if there were any australian  voices for the 
mack that

one could purchase?
thanks for your help.
sincerely, chenelle

Sent from my iPhone

On 23/08/2012, at 18:28, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:


Today's Topic Summary
Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics

• dumb mail question [2 Updates]
• a new little thing about Mountain Lion [8 Updates]
• Speaking rate in Voiceover [4 Updates]
• Is Facebook Now Completely Broken [1 Update]
• Best GPS app for iPhone [2 Updates]
• 1password accessibility [1 Update]
• Anyone has a link to a working version of Stanza? [1 Update]
• there's an update to Mountain Lion available [1 Update]
• TextEdit question [5 Updates]
dumb mail question
Bill Holton bill32...@gmail.com Aug 23 03:52PM -0400

Hi.
What is the best voiceover command to use that will get mail to
consistently open a web URL insight email?

Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Aug 23 06:10PM -0400

Hi,

I would navigate by character to the url itself then press VO 
space. If

that fails you, do the same but instead of

pressing VO space, press VO shift M to bring up the context menu and
select to open link or something like that.


hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info


a new little thing about Mountain Lion Joseph Norton
joseph.nor...@gmail.com Aug 23 04:15PM -0400

Well, they finally did it!

Now, when downloading the BootCamp Windows Support software, they
finally give you a progress report.

Not a big thing, but, it's a tiny improvement.

Now to try VMWare Fusion 5 and see what it can do.

Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net Aug 23 03:18PM -0500

So, does this make it possible for a blind person to install 
windows

using bootcamp independantly; or, need we wait for

yet more work to be done?



Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
barefootedray


Christopher-Mark gilland clgillan...@gmail.com Aug 23 04:30PM
-0400

You know, that doesn't sound like that half bad of an idea. I too
have vm ware 5, but have been really hesitant to install it and set
a vm of 

Re: trying to update Flash player - problem solved

2012-08-24 Thread Veronica Elsea
Well, I'm sure striking out trying to update flash player myself. I go 
to adobesystems.com and find flash. It comes up to the point where I 
find the download page and it shows the correct operating system. But 
clicking the download link does nothing. I land on a page where I have 
tried tabbing as well as just reading the page with VO and arrow keys. 
It says that the download should have started automatically, but it 
doesn't. Clicking the link for those who have trouble seems to get me 
nothing but that stupid, did you get what you came for? I'd love to know 
how the rest of you are getting it done. Thanks.


Veronica


Watch and hear Veronica Elsea's Prayer for a Soldier at 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFoIhWrBHFI

Then find more music from Veronica Elsea and The Guide Dog Glee Club at:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


On 8/24/2012 9:24 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

Well, tried again, and this time it worked.  Weird.
Cheers,
Donna
On Aug 24, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:


Hi Rodney,

That was the first thing I tried, and it didn't work at all.  thanks for the 
suggestion, though.
Best,
Donna
On Aug 24, 2012, at 10:41 AM, Rodney Haynie rodney.hay...@gmail.com wrote:


Donna, did you try the Tab button yet. This works for me.

HTH.
Rodney

On Aug 24, 2012, at 11:31 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:


Hi all,

I'm trying to update Adobe flash player, but am having trouble getting the 
mouse over to the Install button.  Does anyone know if there's a way to route 
the mouse to the item under keyboard focus?  Lacking that option, anyone have 
any other thoughts about how to accomplish this?  I've tried moving the mouse 
with the trackpad, but that hasn't worked well.
TIA,
Donna

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Re: voices for the mack?

2012-08-24 Thread Alex Hall
Well, I'm going to look into what it would take to get osx to use it.
Even if I'm the only one that will actually use the voice, it'll be
worth it. Come here, SpeechSynthesis.h header file...

On 8/24/12, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:
 Of course if all you get is a terminal command to say text then you
 might as well use the OSX voiceover one and just do

 say abcdefg

 CB

 On 8/24/12 12:54 PM, Christopher-Mark gilland wrote:
 They have actually ported ESpeak, but I don't think they got it where
 it works with Voiceover.  I think it only seems to work with it's own
 little utility that you run through Terminal.  Even with that though,
 I never seemed to b able to make it work.  Not even in Terminal, that
 suits me fine though as and ok, no one shoot me, here, K? This only is
 an opinion, take it or leave it, but don't slauder me!  I can't stand!
 ESpeak.  I listen to it for less than 2 minutes and walk away with a
 head ache.

 Chris.

 - Original Message - From: Chris christopher...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 11:22 AM
 Subject: Re: voices for the mack?


 Well Espeak is free and open source so why not port the code to the mac?
 Perhaps lack of interest is one reason.


 Sent from my Windows laptop.

 On 24/08/2012 15:49, Alex Hall wrote:
 Yes, the quality of the pitch change is really bad, making Serena
 sound either like a female voice through a tape player with low
 batteries or one set on high speed (though the speed remains constant,
 it's just the pitch that goes crazy). My fondest wish for the mac is
 still eSpeak, but I suppose it'd be impossible to make a voice for the
 mac... or would it? Hmm, research to keep me busy this weekend...

 On 8/24/12, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ah. Another mystery solved, albeit with an unsatisfactory solution. :)
 On Aug 24, 2012, at 7:16 AM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Unfortunately, the premium quality nuance voices don't allow pitch
 to be
 adjusted. I really wish they did. The compact
 versions allow for pitch adjustment, but the quality is horrible,
 at least
 in my opinion.

 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine
 Grassman
 Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 7:11 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: voices for the mack?

 You do have to choose Customize. One thing that frustrates me about
 Lee is
 that unlike Alex, I cannot change pitch or
 intonation for some reason: just rate and volume. Anyone know why this
 is?
 Christine
 On Aug 23, 2012, at 9:25 PM, Lisette Wesseling
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi
 Yes there's Karen and Lee, and they are free.
 Go into VO utility and choose the voice row of the table there.
 Look
 around in there. YOu may need to choose customise
 to find all the possible options. Karen premium is what I use. You
 need to
 download her but she is worth the megabytes. No
 charge though.

 Lisette

 On 24/08/2012, at 1:19 PM, Chenelle Hancock
 filmchenelle1...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 hi all,
 i wanted to know if there were any australian  voices for the
 mack that
 one could purchase?
 thanks for your help.
 sincerely, chenelle

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 23/08/2012, at 18:28, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Today's Topic Summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics

 • dumb mail question [2 Updates]
 • a new little thing about Mountain Lion [8 Updates]
 • Speaking rate in Voiceover [4 Updates]
 • Is Facebook Now Completely Broken [1 Update]
 • Best GPS app for iPhone [2 Updates]
 • 1password accessibility [1 Update]
 • Anyone has a link to a working version of Stanza? [1 Update]
 • there's an update to Mountain Lion available [1 Update]
 • TextEdit question [5 Updates]
 dumb mail question
 Bill Holton bill32...@gmail.com Aug 23 03:52PM -0400

 Hi.
 What is the best voiceover command to use that will get mail to
 consistently open a web URL insight email?

 Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Aug 23 06:10PM -0400

 Hi,

 I would navigate by character to the url itself then press VO
 space. If
 that fails you, do the same but instead of
 pressing VO space, press VO shift M to bring up the context menu and
 select to open link or something like that.

 hth

 Ricardo Walker
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 a new little thing about Mountain Lion Joseph Norton
 joseph.nor...@gmail.com Aug 23 04:15PM -0400

 Well, they finally did it!

 Now, when downloading the BootCamp Windows Support software, they
 finally give you a progress report.

 Not a big thing, but, it's a tiny improvement.

 Now to try VMWare Fusion 5 and see what it can do.

 Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net Aug 23 03:18PM -0500

 So, does this make it possible for a blind person to install
 windows
 using bootcamp independantly; or, need we wait for
 yet more work to be done?


 Sincerely,
 

Re: Really frustrated with Mail! For real this time!

2012-08-24 Thread Veronica Elsea
Yes, yes, yes I am certain of my settings. I save the message to drafts 
and use a windows computer to send with the same settings. Sometimes I 
reboot the Mac and then it sends. The Mac is inconsistant and has been 
all along. I went to one apple store when I was visiting someone in 
Kansas City and was told that they were noticing everyone from their 
local cable company having trouble so they just set everyone up with a G 
mail account. It's an apple problem, not mine. I have redone this 
account way too many times and will not do that any more because it's 
pointless. There's a bug somewhere and it's just frustrating because I 
can't count on it. It's a pain to have to reboot right in the midst of 
just sending a quick message. Like I said, frustrating!


Veronica


Watch and hear Veronica Elsea's Prayer for a Soldier at 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFoIhWrBHFI

Then find more music from Veronica Elsea and The Guide Dog Glee Club at:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


On 8/24/2012 9:57 AM, Steve Holmes wrote:

Likewise, I have never had any issues sending messages from Mail in
Lion or Mountain Lion.  I use gmail with IMAP to receive and of course
SMTP to send.  The only thing I have ever experienced is I usually
hear a swush sound when messages are being sent and sometimes, I'll do
the send with Command-Shift-D and not hear the sound; makes me wonder
if the message didn't get sent but yet no errors popped up either.  I
just chock those up to flukes or something.

On 8/24/12, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

Are you certain of your settings? Sometimes, an isp will change port
numbers or security settings and you may miss the memo, which can
cause previous settings to stop working. I know this isn't quite the
problem you are having, but it's all I can think of. Tripple check
your pop and smtp ports, security, authentication, and even username
settings (that is, does the username need to be just the first part of
your address or the whole thing). Hope this helps somewhat. For what
it's worth, I use gmail via imap and have no trouble at all.

On 8/24/12, christopher hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

I can't say I am. I use Gmail via Pop. I also use my ISp's own e-mail
service via Pop3. All are working great so far. This is under Lion.
On 24 Aug 2012, at 05:11, Veronica Elsea wrote:


Hi everyone!
I can't believe this issue is back. I'm so not happy right now. When I
first got this Macbook air, I was using pop mail. I had a ton of trouble
sending mail. It would come up and tell me it couldn't use the current
sender. Everything pointed to a bug in apple mail that they said they
couldn't duplicate consistantly enough to fix. The fix was to change to
imap. So I put the macbook awy till I learned about imap and made the
switch. It worked great for awhile. And now tonight, it's back to not
being able to send again. I actually had to save my last message in
drafts
and go to my windows computer in order to send it. I know it's not a
problem with my provider or my settings because I went through this way
too many times. How can I count on this thing for email use when I'm
traveling if this old buggaboo is back? It makes me very sad in a way.
Is
anyone else here having this experience. Thanks a bunch.
Veronica

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Re: Really frustrated with Mail! For real this time!

2012-08-24 Thread Alex Hall
If it comes to it, you could always send from www.gmail.com in safari.
Make sure to find and click the basic html link or you'll not have
much luck with the page, but once you are on basic html it is easy to
use. I know it does not solve your problem, but at least there's no
rebooting.

On 8/24/12, Veronica Elsea veron...@laurelcreekmusic.com wrote:
 Yes, yes, yes I am certain of my settings. I save the message to drafts
 and use a windows computer to send with the same settings. Sometimes I
 reboot the Mac and then it sends. The Mac is inconsistant and has been
 all along. I went to one apple store when I was visiting someone in
 Kansas City and was told that they were noticing everyone from their
 local cable company having trouble so they just set everyone up with a G
 mail account. It's an apple problem, not mine. I have redone this
 account way too many times and will not do that any more because it's
 pointless. There's a bug somewhere and it's just frustrating because I
 can't count on it. It's a pain to have to reboot right in the midst of
 just sending a quick message. Like I said, frustrating!

 Veronica


 Watch and hear Veronica Elsea's Prayer for a Soldier at
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFoIhWrBHFI
 Then find more music from Veronica Elsea and The Guide Dog Glee Club at:
 http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
  Veronica Elsea, Owner
 Laurel Creek Music Designs
 Santa Cruz, California
 Phone: 831-429-6407


 On 8/24/2012 9:57 AM, Steve Holmes wrote:
 Likewise, I have never had any issues sending messages from Mail in
 Lion or Mountain Lion.  I use gmail with IMAP to receive and of course
 SMTP to send.  The only thing I have ever experienced is I usually
 hear a swush sound when messages are being sent and sometimes, I'll do
 the send with Command-Shift-D and not hear the sound; makes me wonder
 if the message didn't get sent but yet no errors popped up either.  I
 just chock those up to flukes or something.

 On 8/24/12, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Are you certain of your settings? Sometimes, an isp will change port
 numbers or security settings and you may miss the memo, which can
 cause previous settings to stop working. I know this isn't quite the
 problem you are having, but it's all I can think of. Tripple check
 your pop and smtp ports, security, authentication, and even username
 settings (that is, does the username need to be just the first part of
 your address or the whole thing). Hope this helps somewhat. For what
 it's worth, I use gmail via imap and have no trouble at all.

 On 8/24/12, christopher hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 I can't say I am. I use Gmail via Pop. I also use my ISp's own e-mail
 service via Pop3. All are working great so far. This is under Lion.
 On 24 Aug 2012, at 05:11, Veronica Elsea wrote:

 Hi everyone!
 I can't believe this issue is back. I'm so not happy right now. When I
 first got this Macbook air, I was using pop mail. I had a ton of
 trouble
 sending mail. It would come up and tell me it couldn't use the current
 sender. Everything pointed to a bug in apple mail that they said they
 couldn't duplicate consistantly enough to fix. The fix was to change
 to
 imap. So I put the macbook awy till I learned about imap and made the
 switch. It worked great for awhile. And now tonight, it's back to not
 being able to send again. I actually had to save my last message in
 drafts
 and go to my windows computer in order to send it. I know it's not a
 problem with my provider or my settings because I went through this
 way
 too many times. How can I count on this thing for email use when I'm
 traveling if this old buggaboo is back? It makes me very sad in a way.
 Is
 anyone else here having this experience. Thanks a bunch.
 Veronica

 --
 Watch and hear Veronica Elsea's Prayer for a Soldier at
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFoIhWrBHFI
 Then find more music from Veronica Elsea and The Guide Dog Glee Club
 at:
 http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
 Veronica Elsea, Owner
 Laurel Creek Music Designs
 Santa Cruz, California
 Phone: 831-429-6407

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LG HBS 700?

2012-08-24 Thread Kliphton
I can't remember who posted about this headset, but the recommendation was
right on the money!  I was a little hesitant when I first saw the design,
but once I tried it out, I was sold.  Only thing is, I read in the reviews
how you can have multiple profiles, like having it paired to more than one
device.  Does anyone who has this model no how to do this, how do I tell it
to become discoverable?  Thanks.

 

Kliphton Senior

(TwitterSkype) kliphton72

(iMessagefacetime) kliph...@me.com

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(Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com
http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com/ 

(Life Journal) kliphton.wordpress.com

(Marriage group) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/committed-married-christians

(face book) http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie

 

 

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Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 5 Topics

2012-08-24 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Another reason why ESpeak doesn't need to be ported on the Mac is that most 
people on here, not everyone, can't stand robotic voices. I for one hate both 
Eloquence and ESpeak because they're too robotic. DECTalk I can handle, but I 
would rather have a human sounding voice like Samantha from Nuance or Tracy 
from Acapela read stuff to me. Lagging isn't an issue for me, as long as the 
voice sounds good, that's all that matters. Robots don't belong on the Mac.

Shawn
Sent from my white Mac Book

On 2012-08-24, at 12:15 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:


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Mac observation

2012-08-24 Thread christopher hallsworth
Hello all.
Had the mac for 4 days now and absolutely love it. Oh why did I not switch 
earlier :)
My observation is I am no where near afraid of trying apps compared to being 
slightly so under the other OS. For example I know that a mac app is most 
likely to be accessible. With the other OS it is hit and miss.
What are your thoughts on this?
I also love the intuitiveness as well. Once I have learnt a keystroke, I know 
it is going to work across the board.
Again what are your thoughts on this?
Look forward to any comments on this.
Thanks!

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RE: Mac observation

2012-08-24 Thread Daniel Miller
Hi,

Laughs. I'd just like to say you're awesome for referring to Windows as 'the
other OS. It makes me smile. I agree, though, for the most part, mac apps
are going to be accessible, but you're still going to find the ones that
aren't. However, unlike that other OS, it's really easy to talk to a
developer about them possibly fixing issues.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of christopher hallsworth
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 1:35 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mac observation

Hello all.
Had the mac for 4 days now and absolutely love it. Oh why did I not switch
earlier :) My observation is I am no where near afraid of trying apps
compared to being slightly so under the other OS. For example I know that a
mac app is most likely to be accessible. With the other OS it is hit and
miss.
What are your thoughts on this?
I also love the intuitiveness as well. Once I have learnt a keystroke, I
know it is going to work across the board.
Again what are your thoughts on this?
Look forward to any comments on this.
Thanks!

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Re: Fusion 5.

2012-08-24 Thread christopher hallsworth
30 days from the day you requested the trial, all features available during the 
trial.
On 24 Aug 2012, at 01:58, Alex Hall wrote:

 Is there a free trial of any kind? What are the limitations if so?
 
 On 8/23/12, Kliphton kliph...@gmail.com wrote:
 How much was the upgrade?  And how does it perform with your current copy of
 windows?
 On Aug 23, 2012, at 7:51 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi All.
 
 Just to let you know that VMFusion 5 is out.
 
 If purchasing, please be careful as I purchased 10 licences by accident
 without realising.  I couldn't believe the amount but customer services
 were very helpful and I hope to get a refund soon after purchasing another
 licence in order to get the refund.
 
 Best regards,
 
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Re: dumb mail question

2012-08-24 Thread christopher hallsworth
I just cursor to the link and do a vo-space to activate it. This is assuming 
quick nav is off. If on press up and down together to activate.
On 23 Aug 2012, at 20:52, Bill Holton wrote:

 Hi.
 What is the best voiceover command to use that will get mail to consistently 
 open a web URL insight email?
 
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RE: removing Carbon coppy Cloner

2012-08-24 Thread Jeff Bishop
Why did you switch if you don't mind me asking?

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:20 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: removing Carbon coppy Cloner

 

Hi,

 

I'm gonna switch over from Carbon copy cloner to Super Duper.  Am I correct
in guessing that there is no uninstall app for Carbon Coppy Cloner and that
all I need do is remove it from the apps folder?

 

Also, High time I put an anti virus app on here.  Which is more accessible
between Clamax and Soho?

 

Thanks.

 

 

Sincerely,

The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

 

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

 

Skype name:

barefootedray

 

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Re: removing Carbon coppy Cloner

2012-08-24 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Oh, well, you see, I've had issues making bootable disks to a 1TB Buffalo Media 
56000RPm external USB drive; and so, I thought perhaps I'd see what Super Duper 
had to offer by way of comparison.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
barefootedray

On Aug 24, 2012, at 2:08 PM, Jeff Bishop j...@jeffbishop.com wrote:

 Why did you switch if you don’t mind me asking?
  
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
 On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
 Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:20 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: removing Carbon coppy Cloner
  
 Hi,
  
 I'm gonna switch over from Carbon copy cloner to Super Duper.  Am I correct 
 in guessing that there is no uninstall app for Carbon Coppy Cloner and that 
 all I need do is remove it from the apps folder?
  
 Also, High time I put an anti virus app on here.  Which is more accessible 
 between Clamax and Soho?
  
 Thanks.
  
  
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
  
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
  
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
  
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Re: removing Carbon coppy Cloner

2012-08-24 Thread Paul Erkens
Hi,

If I'm not sure whether or not an application is leaving files behind when 
simply deleting its dot app component from my applications folder, I use app 
zapper. It looks for related files and gets rid of those as well. It costs I 
think it was some 15 dollars but it works. Not everything on the screen is 
accessible, but enough to get the job done.
Hth,
Paul.
On Aug 24, 2012, at 9:20 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote:

 Oh, well, you see, I've had issues making bootable disks to a 1TB Buffalo 
 Media 56000RPm external USB drive; and so, I thought perhaps I'd see what 
 Super Duper had to offer by way of comparison.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
 
 On Aug 24, 2012, at 2:08 PM, Jeff Bishop j...@jeffbishop.com wrote:
 
 Why did you switch if you don’t mind me asking?
  
 From: 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
 Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:20 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: removing Carbon coppy Cloner
  
 Hi,
  
 I'm gonna switch over from Carbon copy cloner to Super Duper.  Am I correct 
 in guessing that there is no uninstall app for Carbon Coppy Cloner and that 
 all I need do is remove it from the apps folder?
  
 Also, High time I put an anti virus app on here.  Which is more accessible 
 between Clamax and Soho?
  
 Thanks.
  
  
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
  
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
  
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
  
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Re: removing Carbon coppy Cloner

2012-08-24 Thread christopher hallsworth
As for antivirus try the free Sophos Antivirus Home Edition. Interface is 
straightforward and accessible.
On 24 Aug 2012, at 18:20, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I'm gonna switch over from Carbon copy cloner to Super Duper.  Am I correct 
 in guessing that there is no uninstall app for Carbon Coppy Cloner and that 
 all I need do is remove it from the apps folder?
 
 Also, High time I put an anti virus app on here.  Which is more accessible 
 between Clamax and Soho?
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
 
 
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Re: installing Windows in Fusion (was: a new little thing about Mountain Lion)

2012-08-24 Thread Mike Arrigo
When creating the virtual machine, fusion will give you the option to 
use an ISO image as your install source. From there, it's the same as 
using a DVD, enter the product key when asked, it's actually faster 
using an ISO image than a disk.

Original message:

Speaking of which, do you need the windows iso, or does vmware handle
that somehow? I know you'd need a key to stop windows from complaining
that it isn't genuine, but how does the actual install process work?



On 8/24/12, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote:

With boot camp, you still run the windows install which can be a
problem. The best way to install windows without sighted help is to use
vmware fusion.
Original message:

So, does this make it possible for a blind person to install windows
using bootcamp independantly; or, need we wait for yet more work to be
done?




Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!



Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!



Skype name:
barefootedray



On Aug 23, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Joseph Norton joseph.nor...@gmail.com
mailto:joseph.nor...@gmail.com wrote:




Well, they finally did it!



Now, when downloading the BootCamp Windows Support software, they
finally give you a progress report.



Not a big thing, but, it's a tiny improvement.



Now to try VMWare Fusion 5 and see what it can do.



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Help No Way To Switch to Old Google Groups

2012-08-24 Thread Brian Fischler
Does anyone have the link to switch to the old Google Groups. It blows my mind 
how impossible it is to navigate this thread in the new google groups. I found 
the help page on Google and have clicked switch to the old google groups ten 
times, and it still will not switch. Additionally, under new google groups it 
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Re: Fusion 5.

2012-08-24 Thread Lindsay Yazzolino
Where can one find this version on the site? After much digging I was
able to find 5.0, but for some reason VMWare was still trying to
charge me $49.99, the same price it showed for upgrading to
Professional. Is there some trick to receiving the 50% cheaper price?
Is it cheaper to upgrade as opposed to buying a new version from
scratch? If so, perhaps I was on the wrong page, or needed to enter my
license code somewhere so that I'd receive the upgrade price. I'm
currently running version 4. I've found the site to be quite a
nightmare in terms of finding the information I need, and any tips
would be appreciated. Thanks! :)

Lindsay

On 8/24/12, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 There is a standard version on the website, for half the price.

 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rachel Feinberg
 Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 11:08 AM
 To: Mac visionaries visionaries
 Subject: Re: Fusion 5.

 i've had the same exact results as you. I tried to purchase the
 professional
 since no standard version could be found on their site. then I put in my
 license key and it said it was already registered or invalid.
 Any ideas on what can be done to fix this?
 Thanks!
 Rachel
 On Aug 24, 2012, at 4:36 AM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com
 wrote:

 Is that the Vmware fusion professional you get then? I couldn't get to
 the
 standard version and the page is a nightmare. Then when i finally had given
 up and decided to purchase the fusion pro guess what? After logging in, the
 thing said that the registration key i entered was either invalid or
 already
 registered so i growled and gave up.
 /Krister

 24 aug 2012 kl. 09:48 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com:

 The upgrade was £75,61 but have not had a chance to try it yet. It
 supports windows 8.

 Kawal.

 On 24 Aug 2012, at 01:53 AM, Kliphton kliph...@gmail.com wrote:

 How much was the upgrade?  And how does it perform with your current
 copy of windows?
 On Aug 23, 2012, at 7:51 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:

 Hi All.

 Just to let you know that VMFusion 5 is out.

 If purchasing, please be careful as I purchased 10 licences by
 accident
 without realising.  I couldn't believe the amount but customer services
 were
 very helpful and I hope to get a refund soon after purchasing another
 licence in order to get the refund.

 Best regards,

 Kawal.

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Re: Arranging Listbox

2012-08-24 Thread Jeff Berwick
This is on Mountain Lion on a brand new Mac Book Pro.  It came with Lion and I 
upgraded to Mountain Lion.

Jeff

On 2012-08-23, at 12:32 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:

 Odd. What version of OSX are you on?
 
 CB
 
 On 8/22/12 3:45 PM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
 Yes, I am using it in list view.  It will let me sort for any other view 
 option, but not list view.  This also happens in Safari when using the 
 Choose File button to select a file on a website.
 
 This is a strange one.
 
 Jeff
 
 On 2012-08-22, at 2:31 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:
 
 You need to be in list view for this to work. The file dialog has a couple 
 different ways to arrange the file list. They are changed by a row of radio 
 buttons. The second button reads list view. Select that and then your 
 file selector will use lists of files instead of icons or whatever. You 
 should have a couple columns when you interact with the list view table 
 such as name, date and size. Pressing VO-| will sort by whatever column you 
 currently have focus in. Pressing it again will sort the other direction.
 
 CB
 
 On 8/22/12 12:13 PM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
 Unfortunately, this did not work. I had my mother-in-law look at it and 
 apparently, the option to change the order is blanked out. I must have a 
 problem with my TextEdit application.
 Off to Google a solution.
 Jef
 On 2012-08-22, at 9:46 AM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Column sort on a table is VO-| or pipe. Is the shifted version of the \ 
 key right above the return key.
 
 http://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/_1133.html
 
 CB
 
 On 8/22/12 8:03 AM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 When I am in the open file dialogue box of Textedit the results 
 showing in the listbox are sorted in reverse alphabetic order.  I am 
 trying to change this to be alphabetic order by hitting [vo][backslash]. 
  This is not having any affect.  Can anybody offer any suggestions on 
 making this happen?
 
 Thx,
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RE: Fusion 5.

2012-08-24 Thread Daniel Miller
There are 2 versions of fusion. Pro, and standard. Pro is $99, and standard
is $49.
If you go to the store page, there's a link for Fusion 5, under the new
releases heading, for $49.


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lindsay Yazzolino
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 4:09 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fusion 5.

Where can one find this version on the site? After much digging I was able
to find 5.0, but for some reason VMWare was still trying to charge me
$49.99, the same price it showed for upgrading to Professional. Is there
some trick to receiving the 50% cheaper price?
Is it cheaper to upgrade as opposed to buying a new version from scratch? If
so, perhaps I was on the wrong page, or needed to enter my license code
somewhere so that I'd receive the upgrade price. I'm currently running
version 4. I've found the site to be quite a nightmare in terms of finding
the information I need, and any tips would be appreciated. Thanks! :)

Lindsay

On 8/24/12, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 There is a standard version on the website, for half the price.

 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rachel Feinberg
 Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 11:08 AM
 To: Mac visionaries visionaries
 Subject: Re: Fusion 5.

 i've had the same exact results as you. I tried to purchase the 
 professional since no standard version could be found on their site. 
 then I put in my license key and it said it was already registered or 
 invalid.
 Any ideas on what can be done to fix this?
 Thanks!
 Rachel
 On Aug 24, 2012, at 4:36 AM, Krister Ekstrom 
 kris...@kristersplace.com
 wrote:

 Is that the Vmware fusion professional you get then? I couldn't get 
 to the
 standard version and the page is a nightmare. Then when i finally had 
 given up and decided to purchase the fusion pro guess what? After 
 logging in, the thing said that the registration key i entered was 
 either invalid or already registered so i growled and gave up.
 /Krister

 24 aug 2012 kl. 09:48 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com:

 The upgrade was £75,61 but have not had a chance to try it yet. It
 supports windows 8.

 Kawal.

 On 24 Aug 2012, at 01:53 AM, Kliphton kliph...@gmail.com wrote:

 How much was the upgrade?  And how does it perform with your 
 current
 copy of windows?
 On Aug 23, 2012, at 7:51 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:

 Hi All.

 Just to let you know that VMFusion 5 is out.

 If purchasing, please be careful as I purchased 10 licences by 
 accident
 without realising.  I couldn't believe the amount but customer 
 services were very helpful and I hope to get a refund soon after 
 purchasing another licence in order to get the refund.

 Best regards,

 Kawal.

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Re: voices for the mack?

2012-08-24 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi
Yes I think so. I use the premium Karen for my Mac, and the compact one for my 
iPhone. But it's the same lady. She works well on the Mac for me. 
Lisette

On 25/08/2012, at 9:42 AM, agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote:

 Hi, is the kerin the same is the one on the iPhone?
 Thanks.
 Max. voice 
  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: voices for the mack?
 From: Christopher-Mark gilland clgillan...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 21:23:16 -0400
 I don't know about purchasing, but what about the Kerin or the Lee voices 
 that you can download sepretly through the Voiceover Utility?  Are those not 
 comfrible for you?
  
 Chris.
  
 - Original Message -
 From: Chenelle Hancock
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 9:19 PM
 Subject: voices for the mack?
 
 hi all,
 i wanted to know if there were any australian  voices for the mack that one 
 could purchase?
  thanks for your help.
 sincerely, chenelle
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 23/08/2012, at 18:28, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
   Today's Topic Summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
 
 • dumb mail question [2 Updates]
 • a new little thing about Mountain Lion [8 Updates]
 • Speaking rate in Voiceover [4 Updates]
 • Is Facebook Now Completely Broken [1 Update]
 • Best GPS app for iPhone [2 Updates]
 • 1password accessibility [1 Update]
 • Anyone has a link to a working version of Stanza? [1 Update]
 • there's an update to Mountain Lion available [1 Update]
 • TextEdit question [5 Updates]
  dumb mail question
 Bill Holton bill32...@gmail.com Aug 23 03:52PM -0400  
 
 Hi.
 What is the best voiceover command to use that will get mail to 
 consistently open a web URL insight email?
  
 Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Aug 23 06:10PM -0400  
 
 Hi,
  
 I would navigate by character to the url itself then press VO space. If 
 that fails you, do the same but instead of pressing VO space, press VO 
 shift M to bring up the context menu and select to open link or something 
 like that.
  
 hth
  
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
  
  
  a new little thing about Mountain Lion
 Joseph Norton joseph.nor...@gmail.com Aug 23 04:15PM -0400  
 
 Well, they finally did it!
  
 Now, when downloading the BootCamp Windows Support software, they finally 
 give you a progress report.
  
 Not a big thing, but, it's a tiny improvement.
  
 Now to try VMWare Fusion 5 and see what it can do.
  
 Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net Aug 23 03:18PM -0500  
 
 So, does this make it possible for a blind person to install windows using 
 bootcamp independantly; or, need we wait for yet more work to be done?
  
  
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
  
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
  
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
  
  
 Christopher-Mark gilland clgillan...@gmail.com Aug 23 04:30PM -0400  
 
 You know, that doesn't sound like that half bad of an idea. I too have vm 
 ware 5, but have been really hesitant to install it and set a vm of Windows 
 7 up on it as I was a little scared from the horror stories I heard... but 
 then again, I guess that was from Boot Camp, not from Fusion, huh.
  
 Anyways...
  
 Chris.
  
 - Original Message - 
 From: Joseph Norton joseph.nor...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 4:15 PM
 Subject: a new little thing about Mountain Lion
  
  
  
 christopher hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com Aug 23 10:09PM +0100  
 
 Let us know please as I want to try Bootcamp 
 at some stage. Thanks!On 23 Aug 2012, at 21:18, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
  
  
 christopher hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com Aug 23 10:10PM +0100  
 
 Wow only downloaded Fusion 4 I think last night or the night before.
 On 23 Aug 2012, at 21:15, Joseph Norton wrote:
  
  
 Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com Aug 23 05:19PM -0400  
 
 Then you should be eligible for a free upgrade.
  
 CB
  
 On 8/23/12 5:10 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:
  
 Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Aug 23 06:04PM -0400  
 
 I would doubt it. Installing windows really has nothing to do with the 
 bootcamp set up at that point. It would be up to MS to make the 
 installation of windows accessible.
  
 Of course, as a parson who uses bootcamp, I hope I'm wrong. lol.
  
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
  
  
 Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com Aug 23 05:08PM -0500  
 
 You're right. It'd be up to Microsoft to make windows installs accessible,
 since that progress bar is only for installing the mac side of bootcamp.
 Unfortunately, Windows 8 will be the only version of windows for the first
 time ever that's accessible during install.
  
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
 Sent: 

Re: trying to update Flash player - problem solved

2012-08-24 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi Veronica.

1.  go into System prefs.
2. Press Tab to get to the Tabs list.
3.  Right arrow over to Other.
4.  If Flash is installed, it should show up there.  Press Enter.
5.  In the Flash Tab, you'll see the option Check for Updates.  Press Enter.
6.  I think it's at this point that you'll see the Flash installation manager.  
Use Tab to navigate around, and activate the Install option with the Spacebar.
7.  You'll then need to accept the license agreement, and click install again.
HTH,
Donna
On Aug 24, 2012, at 12:45 PM, Veronica Elsea veron...@laurelcreekmusic.com 
wrote:

 Well, I'm sure striking out trying to update flash player myself. I go to 
 adobesystems.com and find flash. It comes up to the point where I find the 
 download page and it shows the correct operating system. But clicking the 
 download link does nothing. I land on a page where I have tried tabbing as 
 well as just reading the page with VO and arrow keys. It says that the 
 download should have started automatically, but it doesn't. Clicking the link 
 for those who have trouble seems to get me nothing but that stupid, did you 
 get what you came for? I'd love to know how the rest of you are getting it 
 done. Thanks.
 
 Veronica
 
 
 Watch and hear Veronica Elsea's Prayer for a Soldier at 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFoIhWrBHFI
 Then find more music from Veronica Elsea and The Guide Dog Glee Club at:
 http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
Veronica Elsea, Owner
 Laurel Creek Music Designs
 Santa Cruz, California
 Phone: 831-429-6407
 
 
 On 8/24/2012 9:24 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 Well, tried again, and this time it worked.  Weird.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Aug 24, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Rodney,
 
 That was the first thing I tried, and it didn't work at all.  thanks for 
 the suggestion, though.
 Best,
 Donna
 On Aug 24, 2012, at 10:41 AM, Rodney Haynie rodney.hay...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Donna, did you try the Tab button yet. This works for me.
 
 HTH.
 Rodney
 
 On Aug 24, 2012, at 11:31 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I'm trying to update Adobe flash player, but am having trouble getting 
 the mouse over to the Install button.  Does anyone know if there's a way 
 to route the mouse to the item under keyboard focus?  Lacking that 
 option, anyone have any other thoughts about how to accomplish this?  
 I've tried moving the mouse with the trackpad, but that hasn't worked 
 well.
 TIA,
 Donna
 
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Re: Help No Way To Switch to Old Google Groups

2012-08-24 Thread Brian Fischler
Ok, so amazingly after four hours I finally got MacVisionaries to some
how display in the old google groups. Not sure how it just changed
back all of the sudden. Does anyone know where this settings link is
to use the old google groups or where one can find a list of all these
keyboard shortcuts to use with the new google groups? Also, can you
use these keyboard shortcuts in safari or just chrome? I can't imagine
that I am the only having so much difficulty navigating this group

On Aug 24, 4:59 pm, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does anyone have the link to switch to the old Google Groups. It blows my 
 mind how impossible it is to navigate this thread in the new google groups. I 
 found the help page on Google and have clicked switch to the old google 
 groups ten times, and it still will not switch. Additionally, under new 
 google groups it says click question mark to learn the keyboard shortcuts, 
 and of course clicking question mark on the keyboard does nothing and I 
 cannot find any in page link of a question mark to click. I HATE GOOGLE, and 
 am getting to the point where I may quit using any google product and switch 
 to yahoo, as I have not spent three hours trying to fugure this out. In my 
 opinion, Google and Facebook are making zero effort to meet any kind of 
 accessibility standards.

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Re: ML .1, first look.

2012-08-24 Thread Brian Fischler
Veronica, I think I was having the same problem. When I would load a
new tab in safari it would first want me to interact with the html
content instead of going directly into interacting with the page. This
has happened to me several times, and I have spoken to Apple about it,
but I also figured out how to fix it, and you will not believe what
did it. Turn VO off with a Command F5 then toggle it back on with
Command F5, now go back to safari and see if when you load a new tab
if it will start interacting with the html content instead of you
having to first hit VO shift down arrow to interact. Hope this solves
it, let us know. This seems to happen to me a few times a week

On Aug 23, 7:46 pm, Veronica Elsea veron...@laurelcreekmusic.com
wrote:
 Hi everyone!
 Okay, I too was surprised by how my update went. I expected more of a 
 download event. grin. In any case, it was easy and I do in fact now have 
 10.8.1 on my system. The first thing I did was to try Safari. It seems the 
 same, unfortunately. It still comes up on the tool bar and doesn't seem to 
 automatically interact with html content like Lion did. Hmmm. If there isn't 
 some little thing I'm doing wrong, bummer! I so want Safari to be smooth and 
 sensible again. grin
 I look forward to hearing from the rest of you on this one. Thanks.

 Veronica

 Watch and hear The Guide Dog Glee Club sing the Star-spangled Banner 
 athttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNLclisGqQ
 Then find more music from The Guide Dog Glee Club and Veronica Elsea 
 athttp://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
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Re: trying to update Flash player - problem solved

2012-08-24 Thread Veronica Elsea
Thanks so much, Donna. I really appreciate this. I'm just having one of those 
days when I hate my Mac. Maybe now I can get past one bit of it. Thanks again.

Veronica

Watch and hear The Guide Dog Glee Club sing the Star-spangled Banner at 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNLclisGqQ
Then find more music from The Guide Dog Glee Club and Veronica Elsea at 
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407

On Aug 24, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:

 Hi Veronica.
 
 1.  go into System prefs.
   2. Press Tab to get to the Tabs list.
 3.  Right arrow over to Other.
 4.  If Flash is installed, it should show up there.  Press Enter.
 5.  In the Flash Tab, you'll see the option Check for Updates.  Press Enter.
 6.  I think it's at this point that you'll see the Flash installation 
 manager.  Use Tab to navigate around, and activate the Install option with 
 the Spacebar.
 7.  You'll then need to accept the license agreement, and click install again.
 HTH,
 Donna
 On Aug 24, 2012, at 12:45 PM, Veronica Elsea veron...@laurelcreekmusic.com 
 wrote:
 
 Well, I'm sure striking out trying to update flash player myself. I go to 
 adobesystems.com and find flash. It comes up to the point where I find the 
 download page and it shows the correct operating system. But clicking the 
 download link does nothing. I land on a page where I have tried tabbing as 
 well as just reading the page with VO and arrow keys. It says that the 
 download should have started automatically, but it doesn't. Clicking the 
 link for those who have trouble seems to get me nothing but that stupid, did 
 you get what you came for? I'd love to know how the rest of you are getting 
 it done. Thanks.
 
 Veronica
 
 
 Watch and hear Veronica Elsea's Prayer for a Soldier at 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFoIhWrBHFI
 Then find more music from Veronica Elsea and The Guide Dog Glee Club at:
 http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
   Veronica Elsea, Owner
 Laurel Creek Music Designs
 Santa Cruz, California
 Phone: 831-429-6407
 
 
 On 8/24/2012 9:24 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 Well, tried again, and this time it worked.  Weird.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Aug 24, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Rodney,
 
 That was the first thing I tried, and it didn't work at all.  thanks for 
 the suggestion, though.
 Best,
 Donna
 On Aug 24, 2012, at 10:41 AM, Rodney Haynie rodney.hay...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Donna, did you try the Tab button yet. This works for me.
 
 HTH.
 Rodney
 
 On Aug 24, 2012, at 11:31 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I'm trying to update Adobe flash player, but am having trouble getting 
 the mouse over to the Install button.  Does anyone know if there's a way 
 to route the mouse to the item under keyboard focus?  Lacking that 
 option, anyone have any other thoughts about how to accomplish this?  
 I've tried moving the mouse with the trackpad, but that hasn't worked 
 well.
 TIA,
 Donna
 
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Clamx verses Sophos

2012-08-24 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Okay,

I realize this is a very subjective thing; but, I wish to hav the opinions of 
the group in general.  Which is more accessible; Clamx or Sophos for Anti 
virus?  Also, which is less prone to crashing?  I realize, of course, that not 
everybody will have the same opinion; but, I felt it was prudent to obtain the 
general feeling of the group with regard to these two apps.  I'm not trying to 
ask the group to make my decition for me; that would, of course, be stupid and 
impossible anyhow.  Just wanted the general feeling you know.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
barefootedray

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Re: trying to update Flash player - problem solved

2012-08-24 Thread Donna Goodin
No problem, Veronica, good luck!  Not sure how new you are to the Mac, but I 
remember having a lot of days like that for a while after I got my Mac.  For 
me, those days became fewer and further between, and eventually disappeared 
altogether.  In fact, I just took a job where I have to work with Windows a 
lot.  I've spent a scary amount of time cursing Microsoft, and have reaffirmed 
my conviction that I will never, ever, ever, ever, *ever go back to Windows. :)
Take care,
Donna
On Aug 24, 2012, at 5:25 PM, Veronica Elsea veron...@laurelcreekmusic.com 
wrote:

 Thanks so much, Donna. I really appreciate this. I'm just having one of those 
 days when I hate my Mac. Maybe now I can get past one bit of it. Thanks again.
 
 Veronica
 
 Watch and hear The Guide Dog Glee Club sing the Star-spangled Banner at 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNLclisGqQ
 Then find more music from The Guide Dog Glee Club and Veronica Elsea at 
 http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
 Veronica Elsea, Owner
 Laurel Creek Music Designs
 Santa Cruz, California
 Phone: 831-429-6407
 
 On Aug 24, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Veronica.
 
 1.  go into System prefs.
  2. Press Tab to get to the Tabs list.
 3.  Right arrow over to Other.
 4.  If Flash is installed, it should show up there.  Press Enter.
 5.  In the Flash Tab, you'll see the option Check for Updates.  Press Enter.
 6.  I think it's at this point that you'll see the Flash installation 
 manager.  Use Tab to navigate around, and activate the Install option with 
 the Spacebar.
 7.  You'll then need to accept the license agreement, and click install 
 again.
 HTH,
 Donna
 On Aug 24, 2012, at 12:45 PM, Veronica Elsea veron...@laurelcreekmusic.com 
 wrote:
 
 Well, I'm sure striking out trying to update flash player myself. I go to 
 adobesystems.com and find flash. It comes up to the point where I find the 
 download page and it shows the correct operating system. But clicking the 
 download link does nothing. I land on a page where I have tried tabbing as 
 well as just reading the page with VO and arrow keys. It says that the 
 download should have started automatically, but it doesn't. Clicking the 
 link for those who have trouble seems to get me nothing but that stupid, 
 did you get what you came for? I'd love to know how the rest of you are 
 getting it done. Thanks.
 
 Veronica
 
 
 Watch and hear Veronica Elsea's Prayer for a Soldier at 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFoIhWrBHFI
 Then find more music from Veronica Elsea and The Guide Dog Glee Club at:
 http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
  Veronica Elsea, Owner
 Laurel Creek Music Designs
 Santa Cruz, California
 Phone: 831-429-6407
 
 
 On 8/24/2012 9:24 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 Well, tried again, and this time it worked.  Weird.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Aug 24, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Rodney,
 
 That was the first thing I tried, and it didn't work at all.  thanks for 
 the suggestion, though.
 Best,
 Donna
 On Aug 24, 2012, at 10:41 AM, Rodney Haynie rodney.hay...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Donna, did you try the Tab button yet. This works for me.
 
 HTH.
 Rodney
 
 On Aug 24, 2012, at 11:31 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I'm trying to update Adobe flash player, but am having trouble getting 
 the mouse over to the Install button.  Does anyone know if there's a 
 way to route the mouse to the item under keyboard focus?  Lacking that 
 option, anyone have any other thoughts about how to accomplish this?  
 I've tried moving the mouse with the trackpad, but that hasn't worked 
 well.
 TIA,
 Donna
 
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Re: 1password accessibility

2012-08-24 Thread Robert Carter
Hi Paul,

You are correct, if the 1password safari extension is working properly, when 
you are on a website that 1password has login information stored for, simply 
pressing command+backslash causes 1password to automatically fill in the 
username, password and automatically log you in to the site.

I would encourage you to check the 1password login entry for the site that got 
automatically generated and make sure that both the username and password are 
filled in. With 1password in focus, pressing command+shift+l will put you in 
the window where the list of logins that you have created and stored in 
1password will be displayed.

Robert


On Aug 24, 2012, at 8:03 AM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Robert,
 
 Thanks a lot for your answer. This will be useful later on. I would like to 
 understand one more thing for now. I seem to have succeeded in storing one of 
 my passwords inside 1password. 
 While filling in a password on a site that 1password was not aware of, a 
 1password dialog came up, asking me if I wanted to save this login for later. 
 That was the first time I saw the 1password safari extension do something at 
 all, that VoiceOver caught and spoke, so that is good news to begin with.
 
 After having answered save, I was in, of course, because I myself gave the 
 right password. But here's the problem.
 
 As I understand it, there's a list of saved logins somewhere in 1password, 
 where you can click a site, and be logged in right away.
 1. Where is this thing located? In the extension, or in the 1password app? 
 Clicking on a login inside the app lets me rename it, but not carry it out. 
 In the extension, I don't find such a list.
 2. Is this the way you go about logging in to sites, using the 1password 
 logins list?
 
 3. Alternatively, You wrote that if you go to a site where you want to be 
 logged in, and you are on the page where the site asks your credentials, then 
 you hit command backslash to be logged in. Is this correct at all? If I try 
 this, nothing happens, and I still need to fill in the password myself. Am I 
 overlooking something? I verified through the 1password app, that this very 
 password for this very site is indeed stored, and it was captured 
 automatically as described above. Is hitting command backslash on a login 
 page enough to have 1password do its thing? Seems, not on my machine.
 
 Very interested to hear back on this, if you have any tips at all.
 Thanks in advance for the time you have been taking to help me out with this. 
 It is very much appreciated.
 Paul.
 On Aug 23, 2012, at 10:41 PM, Robert Carter nc5rn...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Paul,
 
 I don't know for sure but am going to assume that you currently have the 
 weak password stored in 1password. Making that assumption, here is how I 
 would proceed.
 
 1. Open 1password go to file menu, down arrow to new item and press right 
 arrow to expand it.
 2. Down arrow to new password and press enter to open the dialogue.
 3. Use VO right arrow and you will see that 1password has generated a strong 
 password in this dialogue.
 4. VO right arrow past the password and use VO space on the copy button to 
 put the password on the clipboard.
 5. Open TextEdit and paste the password in to a blank document. I do this 
 because 1password only keeps the generated password on the clipboard for 90 
 seconds or whatever you have it set to.
 6. Highlight the password that is now in text edit and copy it to the 
 clipboard. This way you don't have to worry about it disappearing from the 
 clipboard.
 7. Open safari and go to the site where you want to change the password. Get 
 to the point on the site where you are being asked for the new password and 
 paste it in from the clipboard.
 8. Go back to 1password, to your logins and locate the login information for 
 the site that you just changed the password for.
 9. Interact with the scroll area in 1password and use VO right arrow to 
 navigate to the password field. Assuming that you have show passwords 
 checked in the view menu, you will see your old password for the site. Press 
 command e to allow you to edit this entry. Delete it and paste in the new 
 password that is still on the clipboard.
 10. Press command e again to tell 1password that you are finished editing.
 
 You now have the password changed on the site and also updated in 1password. 
 You can trash the text edit document and all is now right with the world.
 
 Robert Carter
 
 
 On Aug 23, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Robert,
 
 How do you go about the following with 1password. It's something I've been 
 struggling with the past few days but I can't get my head around it.
 
 Say I have a site where I have a weak login password, and I want to change 
 that into a strong one, generated by 1password, and also stored for later 
 use. I safari over to the page where I can fill in a new password. Then, 
 while on the field to enter my new password, 

Re: ML .1, first look.

2012-08-24 Thread Veronica Elsea
Wow! Amazing! This sure worked. I could kick myself for not thinking of that 
one. Sheesh! Thanks for helping to save my sanity. grin

Veronica

Watch and hear The Guide Dog Glee Club sing the Star-spangled Banner at 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNLclisGqQ
Then find more music from The Guide Dog Glee Club and Veronica Elsea at 
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407

On Aug 24, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote:

 Veronica, I think I was having the same problem. When I would load a
 new tab in safari it would first want me to interact with the html
 content instead of going directly into interacting with the page. This
 has happened to me several times, and I have spoken to Apple about it,
 but I also figured out how to fix it, and you will not believe what
 did it. Turn VO off with a Command F5 then toggle it back on with
 Command F5, now go back to safari and see if when you load a new tab
 if it will start interacting with the html content instead of you
 having to first hit VO shift down arrow to interact. Hope this solves
 it, let us know. This seems to happen to me a few times a week
 
 On Aug 23, 7:46 pm, Veronica Elsea veron...@laurelcreekmusic.com
 wrote:
 Hi everyone!
 Okay, I too was surprised by how my update went. I expected more of a 
 download event. grin. In any case, it was easy and I do in fact now have 
 10.8.1 on my system. The first thing I did was to try Safari. It seems the 
 same, unfortunately. It still comes up on the tool bar and doesn't seem to 
 automatically interact with html content like Lion did. Hmmm. If there isn't 
 some little thing I'm doing wrong, bummer! I so want Safari to be smooth and 
 sensible again. grin
 I look forward to hearing from the rest of you on this one. Thanks.
 
 Veronica
 
 Watch and hear The Guide Dog Glee Club sing the Star-spangled Banner 
 athttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNLclisGqQ
 Then find more music from The Guide Dog Glee Club and Veronica Elsea 
 athttp://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
 Veronica Elsea, Owner
 Laurel Creek Music Designs
 Santa Cruz, California
 Phone: 831-429-6407
 
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Gmail Delete

2012-08-24 Thread Jesus Garcia
Okay folks sorry if this has been covered before, but I ask if there is a
way to globally mark all messages on the Google site from the web page for
deleting? I want to get rid of about 4300 messages and cannot seem to find
the command. 

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Mail not always announcing unread messages properly.

2012-08-24 Thread Veronica Elsea
Hi everyone!
Since the update, I've noticed that when arrowing through messages in any of my 
mailboxes, Vo says unread on some of them, but not all of them. This is a 
completely new issue for me. Until yesterday, that was one of the real nice 
things about checking email on my Macbook, having the columns accurately read, 
unread, from, etc. 
I'm using Mountain Lion, set to classic view, preview pane offf, not using 
conversation threading. Are any of you experiencing this? Any suggestions?
Thanks so much.

Veronica

Watch and hear The Guide Dog Glee Club sing the Star-spangled Banner at 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNLclisGqQ
Then find more music from The Guide Dog Glee Club and Veronica Elsea at 
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407

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Re: Arranging Listbox

2012-08-24 Thread rdhudson66

THere is a new command introduced in ML (VO-shift-\) which allows you to access 
the column header sort buttons.  Click on the name button to sort up/down.
On Aug 22, 2012, at 5:03 AM, Jeff Berwick mailingli...@berwick.name wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 When I am in the open file dialogue box of Textedit the results showing in 
 the listbox are sorted in reverse alphabetic order.  I am trying to change 
 this to be alphabetic order by hitting [vo][backslash].  This is not having 
 any affect.  Can anybody offer any suggestions on making this happen?
 
 Thx,
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RE: trying to update Flash player - problem solved

2012-08-24 Thread Jesus Garcia
Okay Madame excuse my lack of brains this evening. I just tried following
your instructions. Cannot locate the other tab or control in either system
prefs full system or in system prefs safari. Am I missing something?
Jesus Garcia

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Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 18:05
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: trying to update Flash player - problem solved

Hi Veronica.

1.  go into System prefs.
2. Press Tab to get to the Tabs list.
3.  Right arrow over to Other.
4.  If Flash is installed, it should show up there.  Press Enter.
5.  In the Flash Tab, you'll see the option Check for Updates.  Press Enter.
6.  I think it's at this point that you'll see the Flash installation
manager.  Use Tab to navigate around, and activate the Install option with
the Spacebar.
7.  You'll then need to accept the license agreement, and click install
again.
HTH,
Donna
On Aug 24, 2012, at 12:45 PM, Veronica Elsea veron...@laurelcreekmusic.com
wrote:

 Well, I'm sure striking out trying to update flash player myself. I go to
adobesystems.com and find flash. It comes up to the point where I find the
download page and it shows the correct operating system. But clicking the
download link does nothing. I land on a page where I have tried tabbing as
well as just reading the page with VO and arrow keys. It says that the
download should have started automatically, but it doesn't. Clicking the
link for those who have trouble seems to get me nothing but that stupid, did
you get what you came for? I'd love to know how the rest of you are getting
it done. Thanks.
 
 Veronica
 
 
 Watch and hear Veronica Elsea's Prayer for a Soldier at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFoIhWrBHFI
 Then find more music from Veronica Elsea and The Guide Dog Glee Club at:
 http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
Veronica Elsea, Owner
 Laurel Creek Music Designs
 Santa Cruz, California
 Phone: 831-429-6407
 
 
 On 8/24/2012 9:24 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 Well, tried again, and this time it worked.  Weird.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Aug 24, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Rodney,
 
 That was the first thing I tried, and it didn't work at all.  thanks for
the suggestion, though.
 Best,
 Donna
 On Aug 24, 2012, at 10:41 AM, Rodney Haynie rodney.hay...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
 Donna, did you try the Tab button yet. This works for me.
 
 HTH.
 Rodney
 
 On Aug 24, 2012, at 11:31 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I'm trying to update Adobe flash player, but am having trouble getting
the mouse over to the Install button.  Does anyone know if there's a way to
route the mouse to the item under keyboard focus?  Lacking that option,
anyone have any other thoughts about how to accomplish this?  I've tried
moving the mouse with the trackpad, but that hasn't worked well.
 TIA,
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Upgrading to Fusion 5

2012-08-24 Thread Robert Carter
Hi,

I am attempting to upgrade to fusion 5 from fusion 4. When I get logged in, my 
license key shows up and I am shown the upgrade but when I click on add to 
cart, nothing gets added to my cart. I have tried vo+space, routing the mouse 
to the button and clicking it and single and double clicking the mouse with 
vo+shift+space. Nothing seems to be activating the add to cart button. Have any 
of you who has purchased the fusion upgrade experienced this? Did you find a 
work around?

Thanks,

Robert Carter

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Re: ML .1, first look.

2012-08-24 Thread Brian Fischler
Glad I could help Veronica. It was driving me nuts to having to
interact with pages before getting to the content, couldn't believe
when I discovered toggling VO off and on fixed it. Talk about a Bug

On Aug 23, 8:59 pm, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Safari works fine for me, always interacting with the html content.
 That's very odd...

 On 8/23/12, Kliphton kliph...@gmail.com wrote:









  That's why the mac side of things that is the only thing I don't use.  I
  still use IE, especially when I am surching for something.  I will use
  safari when it is a quick look, or just needing to buy something from
  amazon, but when it's gonna be a long session, IE it is.  I would also like
  to get firmilure with numbers, but no one seems to have tutorials or
  podcasts for it.  So guess I am on my own.
  (Marriage Blog)http://christledmarriage.wordpress.com

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  On Aug 23, 2012, at 6:46 PM, Veronica Elsea veron...@laurelcreekmusic.com
  wrote:

  Hi everyone!
  Okay, I too was surprised by how my update went. I expected more of a
  download event. grin. In any case, it was easy and I do in fact now have
  10.8.1 on my system. The first thing I did was to try Safari. It seems the
  same, unfortunately. It still comes up on the tool bar and doesn't seem to
  automatically interact with html content like Lion did. Hmmm. If there
  isn't some little thing I'm doing wrong, bummer! I so want Safari to be
  smooth and sensible again. grin
  I look forward to hearing from the rest of you on this one. Thanks.

  Veronica

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 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNLclisGqQ
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Re: trying to update Flash player

2012-08-24 Thread Gerry Cook
hi donna 2 methods i used to update flash player 
1 when the installer comes up you tab to and spacebar on install and the tab 
before that one, is i agree if that happens to be not checked press space bar 
which will check it and you'll be asked for your password from your apple i.d.

method 2 go to system preferences and near the right hand end, there's a flash 
player button, you vo space bar on that and check for automatic updates. I hope 
this isn't too long winded and it helps you. All the best.
cheers gerry have a great day
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email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au

On 25/08/2012, at 1:44 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:

 Hi Rodney,
 
 That was the first thing I tried, and it didn't work at all.  thanks for the 
 suggestion, though.
 Best,
 Donna
 On Aug 24, 2012, at 10:41 AM, Rodney Haynie rodney.hay...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Donna, did you try the Tab button yet. This works for me.
 
 HTH.
 Rodney
 
 On Aug 24, 2012, at 11:31 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I'm trying to update Adobe flash player, but am having trouble getting the 
 mouse over to the Install button.  Does anyone know if there's a way to 
 route the mouse to the item under keyboard focus?  Lacking that option, 
 anyone have any other thoughts about how to accomplish this?  I've tried 
 moving the mouse with the trackpad, but that hasn't worked well.
 TIA,
 Donna
 
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Re: ML .1, first look.

2012-08-24 Thread Veronica Elsea
Oh man!
Well, just like last night's little trial, this one works once. If I want to 
use Safari without having to interact myself again, it's reboot time. So, 
reboot every internet session. Reboot every mail session. I tell you, I'm about 
ready to toss this Mackbook inAir  our neighborhood yard sale. I'm trying to 
believe that the rest of you do serious and interesting things with your Macs, 
but this one is just driving me crazy. I don't know how to completely wipe the 
system on a Macbook air and do a clean install, as I have no external disks 
yet. I'm sure there's something I could do with a USB something, but I wish I 
could believe that this would sort me out. Till then, I'll head into my studio 
and play with my old system 9 Mac and my Windows 7 computer. Sheesh! Maybe I'll 
see if there's really someone at one of the bay area apple stores who might 
know something about VO like they claim. Anyway, thanks for listening. I really 
want this thing to work out, I really do. But I'm not impressed at the moment.

Veronica

Watch and hear The Guide Dog Glee Club sing the Star-spangled Banner at 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNLclisGqQ
Then find more music from The Guide Dog Glee Club and Veronica Elsea at 
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407

On Aug 24, 2012, at 6:47 PM, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote:

 Glad I could help Veronica. It was driving me nuts to having to
 interact with pages before getting to the content, couldn't believe
 when I discovered toggling VO off and on fixed it. Talk about a Bug
 
 On Aug 23, 8:59 pm, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Safari works fine for me, always interacting with the html content.
 That's very odd...
 
 On 8/23/12, Kliphton kliph...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 That's why the mac side of things that is the only thing I don't use.  I
 still use IE, especially when I am surching for something.  I will use
 safari when it is a quick look, or just needing to buy something from
 amazon, but when it's gonna be a long session, IE it is.  I would also like
 to get firmilure with numbers, but no one seems to have tutorials or
 podcasts for it.  So guess I am on my own.
 (Marriage Blog)http://christledmarriage.wordpress.com
 
 (Marriage group)http://groups.yahoo.com/group/committed-married-christians
 
 http://facebook.com/CCMarriage
 
 http://twitter.com/MarrigeMinistry
 
 On Aug 23, 2012, at 6:46 PM, Veronica Elsea veron...@laurelcreekmusic.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi everyone!
 Okay, I too was surprised by how my update went. I expected more of a
 download event. grin. In any case, it was easy and I do in fact now have
 10.8.1 on my system. The first thing I did was to try Safari. It seems the
 same, unfortunately. It still comes up on the tool bar and doesn't seem to
 automatically interact with html content like Lion did. Hmmm. If there
 isn't some little thing I'm doing wrong, bummer! I so want Safari to be
 smooth and sensible again. grin
 I look forward to hearing from the rest of you on this one. Thanks.
 
 Veronica
 
 Watch and hear The Guide Dog Glee Club sing the Star-spangled Banner at
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNLclisGqQ
 Then find more music from The Guide Dog Glee Club and Veronica Elsea at
 http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
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 Laurel Creek Music Designs
 Santa Cruz, California
 Phone: 831-429-6407
 
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Re: Fleksy

2012-08-24 Thread Tammy

Hi,

yes I tend to touch very lightly when in this mode because the focus really 
does move around quite easily.  Thankfully I don't have to use it for much. 
A suggestion might be to add frequently used words to the dictionary before 
you use the program so that it will know and use them already.


hth

Tammy

-Original Message- 
From: Jamie Tachiyama

Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 11:41 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fleksy

It is true that you can enter things this way. One thing I have noticed 
though, it seems to slide over to the next letter vary easily. I generally 
find it to be slower to enter text this way due to the amount of corrections 
I have to make.



Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 24, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Tammy tcl...@rogers.com wrote:


Hi,

You can enter it manually, just hold your finger on the keyboard and after 
a second you'll hear the letter your finger's on.  Then just move your 
finger around and touch type as you normally would.  When you're done 
flick right to add the space and your word will be spoken, and you can 
then flick up to add it to the dictionary if you want to or just keep 
typing.


hth

Tammy

-Original Message- From: Mike Busboom
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:58 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fleksy

Hello everyone,

Donna sort of brings up a point that would interest me.  How do you 
actually enter a word within Fleksy that isn't in its dictionary?  Is 
there a way to force the App to let you enter a word in the usual way? 
Although I write lots of stuff on my iPhone in English, I sometimes need 
to enter names of restaurants, etc., whose names are German.


Thanks and happy fleksing!

Mike

On 19,Aug,2012, at 11:03 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:

You know, it's hard to completely separate them.  I find that I have to 
retype things a lot, often the word I'm aiming for isn't in the 
suggestions list.  Which of course, makes the whole thing slower.  And 
when I go back and read the text, there often seem to be a lot of junk 
characters mixed in.  It may well be just that I need to put some time 
into getting used to it, but unfortunately, time is one thing I don't 
have a lot of right now, what with a recent move and a new job.  I do 
appreciate the list comments, though, since you all seem to be getting 
good results, that speaks to the fact that it must be possible. :)

Take care,
Donna
On Aug 19, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Taylor Scott taylor9...@gmail.com wrote:

Is it the  accuracy of the words, or the speed that is giving you 
problems?


I know for me it took some getting used to, to be fast with it.
You spend a few years listening for a key, and with this app, the key
is to quickly tap in the general direction of the key, and continue
on.
I still hesitate some when tiping, it's just habit.
To get the best results is to try to tap the keys as fast as you can,
and let Fleksy do it's work and guess the word. Of corse it's first
guess may not be right, but once you get the speed down and flicking
through the suggested words, I think you'll start to notice the apps
potintial.
Hope this helps.

On 8/19/12, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:

Hey Brandon,

thanks for the tip - I did find the suggestions.  though personally I'm
finding the app slow and not very accurate, I do assume there's a 
learning
curve, and am intrigued by the results that others are reporting.  I 
think

I'll keep playing with it for a while, and see if I notice improvement
before making a final decision.
thanks again,
Donna
On Aug 18, 2012, at 4:27 PM, Brandon Olivares 
programmer2...@gmail.com

wrote:


Just want to point out one more thing, in case you didn't know.

The great thing is that even if it doesn't guess the right word, you 
can
flick down to get other suggestions. Unless the word isn't in its 
built-in

dictionary, the word you want will most definitely be there.

That is why you can just wildly guess, touching somewhere in the 
general
vicinity of the letter but not really carrying how close it is, 
because

that's enough to get the word to come up. Now I'm able to text just as
fast, I think, as a sighted user.

Did you read the full instructions? That may be useful.
On Aug 18, 2012, at 3:10 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:


Wow, I'm not seeing anywhere near that level of accuracy.
Cheers,
Sauna

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 18, 2012, at 1:06 PM, Brandon Olivares 
programmer2...@gmail.com

wrote:

In the paid version, you can use the text for texting, emails, 
tweets,

or anything else in any other app.

It does save a lot of time once you get used to it. My wife and I 
are
both now using it, and already our efficiency is probably a good 
7-10

times faster.

I don't even try to get the right letter, just wild guesses, and it 
gets

it right 90% of the time.

Brandon
On Aug 18, 2012, at 12:55 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com 
wrote:



Hmm, interesting.  What's the difference between the free and paid

RE: Best GPS app for iPhone

2012-08-24 Thread Kimsan
Hi,
So can you link me to a demonstration for navigon?
Thanks.

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Re: Facebook on IOS update

2012-08-24 Thread Paul Hunt
It came in this morning.

On Aug 24, 2012, at 7:12 AM, Rose Waagan r...@chicksdigmacs.net wrote:

 The app showed up just fine in my updates. You know, sometimes app updates 
 just don't show up for a bit. I had the same thing happen to me once. People 
 were telling me that some apps on the phone had updates, but the updates 
 weren't showing up. If I were you, I'd type Facebook into the app store 
 search field, find the standard Facebook app, and update from that screen. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 24, 2012, at 4:38 AM, christopher hallsworth 
 christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello all I got it when I checked for updates in the app store.
 On 24 Aug 2012, at 10:07, Paul Hunt wrote:
 
 Hello Wes. I don't see this update in the app store. Would you please give 
 us the complete app name and version? Where did you find it? Thanks so much.
 
 On Aug 23, 2012, at 11:44 PM, Wes Smith wessmith...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 WOW!
 It's completely accessible, at least from what I've seen so far…all 
 buttons are labeled, friend requests, ETC ETC….you can comment, like on 
 all posts…just tap (or in our case double tap), on the post you want to 
 comment on or like.
 The newsfeed starts below the status button….the status button is used 
 to update your status.
 Hope this helps you, it certainly looks to be very usable now….the only 
 thing is….IT NEEDS TO STAY THAT WAY
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