RE: Accessible Pandora App?
Hi! There's a wonderful little app called pianopub that works great as a accessible pandora interface. I don't have an exact link handy, but if you do a google search for something like download pianopub, you should be able to find it easily enough. Good luck! Missy _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christina C. Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 1:10 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Accessible Pandora App? Hello and happy New year, Is there an Pandora app that would be accessible on my mac. I would also love it if I could use airPlay with this app. I cannot figure out how to use Pandora through the web/Safari and I was hoping there was an alternative. :) Thanks, Christina Sent from Christina's iMac :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: change reaction?
it's the learning modes and the information at the beginning that doesn't work with the acapella voices when I have one of those set as the system voice. As long as I use Alex or 1 of the nuance voices, it's fine. I've never turned VO off; haven't noticed a need to do that, but I suppose I could give it a try to see if it makes any real difference. _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Maria Joe Chapman Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 7:26 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: change reaction? HI. the tutorials reccommend you turn voice over of. Or is it the intro stuff at the start that tells you how much you have on the board etc that doesn't work with the accappella voices? Maria Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong. - Mahatma Gandhi On 13/12/2012, at 10:27 AM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: I had never heard of it for windows, but I just got it for my mac today, and it's very interesting. I'm still not sure I understand it completely, but I see potential for it to become a very adictive game. Not quite as fun for me as Super Egg hunt, but then again, I've only had it for a few hours. It seems to work very well on my mac, provided that I use Alex or one of the Nuance voices as my system voice. It doesn't seem to work at all with my acapella voices, but I don't blaim the game for that; the acapella voices have been behaving very oddly since the last update. If I didn't have so much money invested in them, I'd just uninstall them altogether as I tend to use Alex most of the time anyway. My point is, the game is very interesting, and if you can afford it, I'd say it's definitely worth checking out. Missy _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Maria Joe Chapman Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 6:01 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: change reaction? Hi. has anyone tried or checked out change reaction for the mac? I used to love playng that game under windows. Here's a link in case you guys aren't sure what I'm talking about. http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=9423Maria Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong. - Mahatma Gandhi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Changereaction: A new game from Draconess intertainment for blind in the Mac app store
I'm glad I didn't go with my first impulse to buy this game right away. I was going to buy it, but when I saw my bank balance, I decided to wait. If people are having trouble getting the game to work, then I'm glad I didn't waste money. I hope you're able to either get your issues resolved by contacting the game developer, or that apple issues you a refund. I'll be following this thread with great interest, as the game sounded like it would be fun. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Baxter Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 12:18 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Changereaction: A new game from Draconess intertainment for blind in the Mac app store I cannot get it to open either. I just spent $10 on it too. *Unimpressed. . Mark BurningHawk Baxter . AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 . MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com . My home page: . http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: change reaction?
I had never heard of it for windows, but I just got it for my mac today, and it's very interesting. I'm still not sure I understand it completely, but I see potential for it to become a very adictive game. Not quite as fun for me as Super Egg hunt, but then again, I've only had it for a few hours. It seems to work very well on my mac, provided that I use Alex or one of the Nuance voices as my system voice. It doesn't seem to work at all with my acapella voices, but I don't blaim the game for that; the acapella voices have been behaving very oddly since the last update. If I didn't have so much money invested in them, I'd just uninstall them altogether as I tend to use Alex most of the time anyway. My point is, the game is very interesting, and if you can afford it, I'd say it's definitely worth checking out. Missy _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Maria Joe Chapman Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 6:01 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: change reaction? Hi. has anyone tried or checked out change reaction for the mac? I used to love playng that game under windows. Here's a link in case you guys aren't sure what I'm talking about. http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=9423Maria Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong. - Mahatma Gandhi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Bootcamp
Holdingdown the function key and then f1 and f2 should control brightness, just like they do on the mac side of things. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris H Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 12:16 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Bootcamp Hello all Well I managed to do it, get Windows 7 installed and working properly via Bootcamp. My thoughts are very good so far! But lol! No where can I adjust the brightness, even though I have the latest Bootcamp Support software as of yesterday, the 8th of December! Lol! So goodness knows how bright my screen is now. Reason I'm saying this is the lower the brightness the longer the battery life. But yes, Bootcamp is very good and think I actually prefer it over Fusion, just so I can avoid the key remapping issues. The guide I posted worked a treat at my end, from start to finish. Anyway, may e-mail you from my Bootcap partition at some point. Haven't set up the internet yet as just seeing what I can and can't do. Brightness appears to be the only issue so far, along with a limited set of Power Management features. Keep you posted. Chris. -- Christopher Hallsworth -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Bootcamp
No, there is no audio feedback, butI have light perception, and I promise that the fn key and f1 and f2 do the job. I think you can also change it in control panel under display or power settings, just like you would on a normal windows machine, but the keys definitely work, and unlike in mac mode, your settings are retained; I turn the screen on my macbook off most of the time, and have to brighten it if a sighted friend or family member is using the mac. Good luck, and I hope this helps. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris H Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 1:12 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Bootcamp Well I can't tell if it is doing that as my screen reader Nvda isn't saying anything. The help says I can adjust it through either the Bootcamp Control Panel and or Power Options. They are in neither. Christopher Hallsworth On 09/12/2012 17:57, Missy Hoppe wrote: Holdingdown the function key and then f1 and f2 should control brightness, just like they do on the mac side of things. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris H Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 12:16 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Bootcamp Hello all Well I managed to do it, get Windows 7 installed and working properly via Bootcamp. My thoughts are very good so far! But lol! No where can I adjust the brightness, even though I have the latest Bootcamp Support software as of yesterday, the 8th of December! Lol! So goodness knows how bright my screen is now. Reason I'm saying this is the lower the brightness the longer the battery life. But yes, Bootcamp is very good and think I actually prefer it over Fusion, just so I can avoid the key remapping issues. The guide I posted worked a treat at my end, from start to finish. Anyway, may e-mail you from my Bootcap partition at some point. Haven't set up the internet yet as just seeing what I can and can't do. Brightness appears to be the only issue so far, along with a limited set of Power Management features. Keep you posted. Chris. -- Christopher Hallsworth -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Redeem iTunes gift cards with built in Mac camera
Oh wow! This is very cool. Can they be redeemeed on the IDevices too, or just the mac? Either way, this is an amazing new feature. Thanks for sharing! Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike M Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 10:48 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; viph...@googlegroups.com Subject: Redeem iTunes gift cards with built in Mac camera The title says it all. I am posting this to both the Mac and iPhone lists since parties in both may find this helpful. There is a feature in iTunes 11 that gives you the ability to redeem gift cards using the camera on the Mac. Sorry to any PC users out there, this is only supported on the Mac Check out a little more here. http://htb2.com/2012/11/29/redeem-itunes-giftcards-with-built-in-mac-camera/ Cheers! Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Redeem iTunes gift cards with built in Mac camera
Thanks for checking. I'm just happy that they can be redeemed on the mac. I have never even gotten a giftcard, but if I ever do, I will be able to use it, and you're probably right that the feature will become available on Idevices in a future software update. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 8:02 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Redeem iTunes gift cards with built in Mac camera Unfortunately, iOS devices can't do that yet. I'm guessing it's coming in a future version of the software, though. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Missy Hoppe Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 6:52 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Redeem iTunes gift cards with built in Mac camera Oh wow! This is very cool. Can they be redeemeed on the IDevices too, or just the mac? Either way, this is an amazing new feature. Thanks for sharing! Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike M Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 10:48 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; viph...@googlegroups.com Subject: Redeem iTunes gift cards with built in Mac camera The title says it all. I am posting this to both the Mac and iPhone lists since parties in both may find this helpful. There is a feature in iTunes 11 that gives you the ability to redeem gift cards using the camera on the Mac. Sorry to any PC users out there, this is only supported on the Mac Check out a little more here. http://htb2.com/2012/11/29/redeem-itunes-giftcards-with-built-in-mac-camera/ Cheers! Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
IPhone cases and keyboards
Good morning, all. For a variety of reasons, I've just about decided to take the plunge and get an IPhone for Christmas. After a lot of thinking with regards to how to make this endeavor as budget-friendly as possible, my plan at this point is to get an unlocked 4S so that I can use it with Cincinnati Bell. From what I've heard, the only drawback will be that the fastest data rate I will be able to use is edge, but my thinking is that I'll use wifi whereever possible, so the slow data rate is worth it to keep my bill manageable. Anyway, I'm writing because I'm trying to plan ahead. I already know I'm going to want the tactile overlay from speeddots, but what I can't figure out is what case I should get. I understand that if I get the defender case, that means buying a different version of the speeddots overlay. The other case I'm considering is the one recommended on the speeddots site: the one with the built-in slide out keyboard. This is really appealing to me since 1 of my biggest fears in getting an IPhone has been the touch screen. I know that with Siri, I probably won't have to deal with it as much, so I'm torne between the really good defender case and the 1 with the keyboard. Naturally, I'm open to any suggestions anyone may have. Bulkiness is not an issue for me; I don't want the iphone for it's tiny form factor, so if anyone out there recommends a different case and/or keyboard, I'd be interested in hearing about it. Thank you all very much for your time, and I look forward to whatever advice you can offer. Missy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: IPhone cases and keyboards
Thank you very much for your response. Getting the defender case does make sense, as I can always get a bluetooth keyboard later on if I absolutely need it. I just found the idea of the keyboard built into a case appealing because it would mean that there would be 1 less thing for me to carry around. I'm pretty sure I'm going to need the tactile overlay, though. I've played with IDevices in the past, and it's never worked well. Thanks again, and I hope that you're having a great day! Missy _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 9:26 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IPhone cases and keyboards Hi, You might try just getting the iphone and the defender case first without the overlay and see whether you can use it or it you like it before spending money on the overlay. You might find you can use the iphone well enough by itself. I would recommend the defender case over the one with the slide out keyboard because it will provide more protection for your phone. hth Tammy From: Missy Hoppe mailto:mitmee@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 7:58 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: IPhone cases and keyboards Good morning, all. For a variety of reasons, I've just about decided to take the plunge and get an IPhone for Christmas. After a lot of thinking with regards to how to make this endeavor as budget-friendly as possible, my plan at this point is to get an unlocked 4S so that I can use it with Cincinnati Bell. From what I've heard, the only drawback will be that the fastest data rate I will be able to use is edge, but my thinking is that I'll use wifi whereever possible, so the slow data rate is worth it to keep my bill manageable. Anyway, I'm writing because I'm trying to plan ahead. I already know I'm going to want the tactile overlay from speeddots, but what I can't figure out is what case I should get. I understand that if I get the defender case, that means buying a different version of the speeddots overlay. The other case I'm considering is the one recommended on the speeddots site: the one with the built-in slide out keyboard. This is really appealing to me since 1 of my biggest fears in getting an IPhone has been the touch screen. I know that with Siri, I probably won't have to deal with it as much, so I'm torne between the really good defender case and the 1 with the keyboard. Naturally, I'm open to any suggestions anyone may have. Bulkiness is not an issue for me; I don't want the iphone for it's tiny form factor, so if anyone out there recommends a different case and/or keyboard, I'd be interested in hearing about it. Thank you all very much for your time, and I look forward to whatever advice you can offer. Missy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: [Maccessibility] Infovox iVox adds genuine children's voices to OS X
I'd like to know this information as well! I just recently checked for an infovox update, and there weren't any new voices listed. _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 9:59 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Maccessibility] Infovox iVox adds genuine children's voices to OS X Where do I get these, and how much are they? Chris. Thank you kindly, Christopher-Mark Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions Blog: http://www.clgproductions.org Podcast: http://clgproductions.podhoster.com E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com IMessage/Facetime: theblindmusic...@att.net Windows Live Messenger: ch...@blindperspectives.net Twitter: @gilland_chris Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/christopher.gilland Skype: twinklesfriend2007 Send me a fax from any standard fax machine: 704-697-2069 Google Voice: (Please use sparingly): 980-272-8570 - Original Message - From: Maccessibility mailto:nore...@maccessibility.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 9:49 AM Subject: [Maccessibility] Infovox iVox adds genuine children's voices to OS X Maccessibility has posted a new item, 'Infovox http://maccessibility.net/2012/11/05/infovox-ivox-adds-genuine-childrens-voices-to-os-x/ iVox adds genuine children's voices to OS X' Amsterdam, November 5, 2012 - Today AssistiveWareR and Acapela Group announced the release of Infovox iVox 3.1, which brings the first four genuine, natural-sounding children's voices to Mac OS X. In addition, the update adds three new male voices. These voices work with any Mac application, including Apple's VoiceOver, TextEdit, Preview, Safari, Adobe's [...] You may view the latest post at http://maccessibility.net/2012/11/05/infovox-ivox-adds-genuine-childrens-voices-to-os-x/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: boot camp
That sounds overly complicated to me. You can go into system preferences and set which os you want to boot into by default. If you want a different one, hold down the option key while powering on your machine. Then, hold down the option key for about 10-15 seconds. You will be in a list of things you can boot from. All you need to do, assuming your set-up is fairly basic, is arrow to the 1 you want. For example, if you boot into windows by default, you'd left arrow once to boot from your main mac OSX drive. Right arrow once would take you to the recovery partician. If you boot by default into OSX, pressing right arrow once will let you boot into windows, and pressing right arrow twice will take you to the recovery partician. One final note: after making your selection, you need to press enter. This method should work great, but to set whichever mode you want to be your default, system preferences and then startup disc would be your best bet. Good luck, and I hope this helps! Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 4:28 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: boot camp You might want to look at the Refit boot manager. Using this, I am able to simply press the power button without holding down anything, then press m for mac or w for windows a second after I hear the startup chime. I had sighted help installing this, and it was over a year ago so I don't remember the exact procedure, but google should be able to tell you more than you need to know. On Nov 5, 2012, at 3:17 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote: the only way i know how to do it is either virtualize it or reboot with bootcamp. You could do the startup option under system preferences. Hope that helps. Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com On Nov 5, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Wayne Coles wayne...@gmail.com wrote: hello chris i meant when i was in the mac os is there a way to boot into windows thanks in advance Wayne Coles wayne...@gmail.com On 5 Nov 2012, at 12:04, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote: You can. Just go to the system trey in bootcamp and select the bootcamp as the startup disk. Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com On Nov 5, 2012, at 11:49 AM, Wayne Coles wayne...@gmail.com wrote: helo list i am running boot camp on a mbp 2012 and would like to know if it os possible to boot into windows without shutting down and then holding down the option key and then arrowing to the boot camp option so any help in this would be most appreciated Wayne Coles wayne...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: a little stuck updating Infovox
That is very, very strange. I just went into apps, ran the infovox manager thing, did check for updates, and it worked like a dream. It was fully updated within 5 minutes. Granted, I can't afford any of the new voices at the moment, but they're there if I want them. _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 5:27 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: a little stuck updating Infovox Okay, Like, I don't get it. I opened the Infovox Ivoice manager figuring I could update from there. No such luck. All the items in the menus seemed to be grayed out. I guess maybe I needed to log in first, but, forgot my password. So, when I went on the site to request a new password, the page came back and told me that my e-mail address was not recognized. I'm honestly about to remove all this because it seems to me like updating this here is more trouble than it's worth. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: power fan screaming since mountain lion update
No issues here either. My fan has always been a bit hyper, but if anything, it may have simmered down a bit under ML. _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Bruinenberg Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 5:00 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: power fan screaming since mountain lion update I'm lucky. I haven't had any of these issues! Is there an easy way to downgrade to lion? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 23, 2012, at 1:56 PM, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: Wow guys, What is going on. I just updated to mountain lion on my new macbook which I bought in January 2012. Ever since I updated my power fan has been screaming and performance has been sluggish. I've done the 10.8.2 update. I've removed all the startup items I feel like I can do without. All that's in there now is dropbox, growl and bay station. I've got an I5 processor, 8 gig ram, and an SSD. Is there anything I can tweak to get my macbook back, or is it time to revert? Thanks, Erik Burggraaf Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service, starting at $0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards. Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: When might we expect a Voiceover Improvement in 10.8
Yes, this is the thing I've noticed: no automatic interraction. The other bugs discussed, I'm not enough of a user to be aware of, but this one is very noticeable, and I'm surprised it exists. It's almost like it's a feature that's been turned off or something. I thought about going through the VO utility to make sure that wasn't the case: something like automatically interract with web content, but I don't think there is suchan option. I think that when time permits, I, too, will write to apple accessibility about that bug because it's the only one I understand enough to write about. Over all, though, I still think ML is way better than lion ever was, at least on my system. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:52 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: When might we expect a Voiceover Improvement in 10.8 The thing that disappoints me is that VoiceOver still doesn't automatically interact with html content when loading a web page like it did in Lion. It just doesn't feel as nice and seamless as it used to feel. I'll keep writing to apple but man, it would seem like the simplest of tries with VoiceOver by the development staff would show this. Bummer! Veronica Watch and hear Veronica Elsea's Prayer for a Soldier at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFoIhWrBHFI Then find more music from Veronica Elsea and The Guide Dog Glee Club at: http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs Santa Cruz, California Phone: 831-429-6407 On 9/20/2012 8:44 PM, Phil Halton wrote: It came off pretty darn sarcastic to my ears as well Ray. - Original Message - *From:* Ray Foret Jr mailto:rfore...@att.net *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, September 20, 2012 5:56 PM *Subject:* Re: When might we expect a Voiceover Improvement in 10.8 Brian, now look, I do understand your frustrations; but, frankly, your personal attack upon me is entirely unwarranted. I was truly only trying to help. Perhaps you're just having a sucky day; I don't know. We're all subject to those days now and again; but, if you are going to bite a hand that's only trying to give helpful advice, then, my friend, perhaps it's high time you stepped away from your computer for a bit and did something else to cool off. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray On Sep 20, 2012, at 4:43 PM, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com mailto:blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Typical of this list, some guy like this Ray offering a useless response to my constructive criticism. Anytime you say anything negative even like I did in a professional way, you get a guy like this Ray not adding to the conversation. I don't think I am out of line expecting improvements to Voiceover, I just voiced my opinion, and here comes this Ray right off the bat. I guess you are only allowed to praise Apple on this board. Ray, I would love to be a developer and help Apple in anyway that I can, unfortunately, I have a very limited knowledge when it comes to programming and what I am sure is some very advanced design work. On Sep 20, 4:46 pm, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com http://gmail.com wrote: I know that we are not Apple's main focus group, but two updates to 10.8 and still not one improvement to Voiceover? There are some pretty basic fixable things, that I am very disappointed that Apple has not addressed in either update. And before I get blasted for posting anything negative on this board about Apple, yes, I have emailed Apple Accessibility, and yes, I have used a Mac for a long time. The one primary thing that seems like a quick fix would be getting Web spots to work properly in safari. I am still stunned that you have to now click VO command right bracket to go left or up a page, and VO command left bracket to go right or down a page. Anyone with the slightest bit of logic would have realized that this is reversed. Numbers is still very difficult to use if you have a big spreadsheet as there is no way to search for a certain cell in a large document. While the command to do this in Lion was bizarre at least it worked most of the time. Calling Apple Accessibility, I find it hilarious that the people at the specialized Voiceover department know nothing about numbers, and the numbers department know nothing about Voiceover. Pretty hilarious. QuickNav is still unbelievably buggy. Several times a day QuickNav just stops working, and I have to toggle VO off and on to get
RE: VoiceOver Sluggish after Upgrading to 10.8.2
I haven't noticed any VO sluggishness on my system. Boot time was slow right after the update, but I think that's normal. I'll start up the mac again at some point and let the group know if I notice any weirdness. Does anyone know what was fixed or changed in this update? I haven't heard much about it. _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Austin Seraphin Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 4:03 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: VoiceOver Sluggish after Upgrading to 10.8.2 I just upgraded my iMac to Mac OS 10.8.2. Now I have a serious VoiceOver lag. It stops speaking and words get broken up. I sort of hope it just resolves itself, but I thought I'd post here to see if anyone else has experienced it. I rebooted once after the upgrade but that didn't help. Any suggestions? - Austin Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain! http://behindthecurtain.us -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Is anyone getting anything from the accessibility live feed for the Apple press conference right now?
I still can't get it to open in winamp. What am I doing wrong? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hank Smith Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 12:42 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Is anyone getting anything from the accessibility live feed for the Apple press conference right now? its working now. there live On 9/12/2012 9:36 AM, Chris Moore wrote: same here, link does not appear to go anywhere. On 12 Sep 2012, at 17:34, Hank Smith hanksm...@hanksmith.net wrote: nope On 9/12/2012 9:31 AM, Christine Grassman wrote: I clicked, and I'm getting absolutely nothing. -- websites: http://www.xpango.com/?ref=92757322 http://prelaunchx.com/x/hanksmith5 http://www.virtapay.com/r/hanksmith5 http://www.reality-networkers.com/index.php?refid=3950951 personal email: hanksm...@hanksmith.net twitter: @hanksmith2011 facebook: http://www.facebook.com/hanksmith5 zello: hanksmith5 Klango: hanksmith Skype: hank.smith966 Amateur radio call sign: ke7ief check out my Youtube video of a song I recorded in Nashville Tennessee! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqut5Bi3e7A also you can find my youtube channel at: http://www.youtube.com/hanksmith2011 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- websites: http://www.xpango.com/?ref=92757322 http://prelaunchx.com/x/hanksmith5 http://www.virtapay.com/r/hanksmith5 http://www.reality-networkers.com/index.php?refid=3950951 personal email: hanksm...@hanksmith.net twitter: @hanksmith2011 facebook: http://www.facebook.com/hanksmith5 zello: hanksmith5 Klango: hanksmith Skype: hank.smith966 Amateur radio call sign: ke7ief check out my Youtube video of a song I recorded in Nashville Tennessee! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqut5Bi3e7A also you can find my youtube channel at: http://www.youtube.com/hanksmith2011 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Piano Pub Questions
Yes, I have 1.5.5. I've been fighting with it for a couple of months now. It just stopped working very suddenly. I deleted it, reinstalled, redownloaded and anything else I can think of, but as soon as I run it, problem reporter pops up. I'm baffled for sure! I even check periodically and redownload 1.5.5, but so far, nothing has worked. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 8:29 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Piano Pub Questions Rose recommended an app called Pandora Jam, which I found with google very easily. I haven't yet figured out how to log in using this app, though. Are you sure you have the latest version of Piano Pub? I updated and it works now. On Aug 30, 2012, at 11:37 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: What app have you found for the mac that is more accessible? Since pianopub seems to be broken under mountain lion, at least on my system, I'd be open to the idea of trying something different. Any information you could provide would be extremely appreciated. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rose Waagan Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:53 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Piano Pub Questions Thank you for letting me know that, Alex. I use a different pandora app on the Mac now, which I find to be more accessible. But I do try to keep up with piano pub. I'll try and see what the problem could be when I get home. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2012, at 9:02 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe an dupdate happened since you wrote that guide, but it doesn't seem to work quite right. First, I can't switch stations at all. Second, I clicked the button that was supposed to be skip, and nothing happened. I labeled the thumbs up/down buttons, and they suddenly appeared in reverse order. I really with Q would port Hope over to mac... On Aug 30, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Rose Waagan r...@chicksdigmacs.net wrote: Hi Dan, Perhaps this page on my web site will help you. http://chicksdigmacs.net/node/7 Here I explain the order of buttons in pandora as well as how to play music. Simply refer to additional notes.. Hope this helps. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2012, at 5:30 AM, Dan Roy droy1...@gmail.com wrote: First, Piano Pub ver 1.5 is working ok in Mountain Lion. However, this is the first time I am using this software. 1. Does anyone know if there is a way to pause the music, I can't find anything in the menus or by tabbing around. there doesn't seem to be a help file or hotkeys either. I did figure out how to move from station to station, but, it's a little strange. Apparently, you have to hit the left mouse button twice to change the selected station, that's a little odd. I need to hit VO-shift-spacebar twice which, as I understand it, is the same as a left mouse click, I find it weird that you have to have 2 of them. Also, there are several unlabeled buttons, I can probably figure it out by trial and error, but, if someone knows the order of those buttons, I would appreciate some help, thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
RE: converting text to MP3
I use the same hot key, and as I said, it works great under snow leopard, but I've never gotten satisfactory results under lion or mountain lion. I like that the new way gives you a chance to name the file and stuff, but after that is when everything seems to stop working as expected. Oh well, I'm just grateful that I still have the option to boot into SL. Doing that gets around the problem just fine. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 2:28 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: converting text to MP3 Hello Donna, For this command to become available, you need to highlight the text to be converted, then get a contextual menu with VO-Shift-m. The command should then show up under Services. I have a shortcut for it which is Cmd-Control-i. Cheers, Anne On 30 Aug 2012, at 00:40, Donna Goodin wrote: Hello Anne: thanks for this suggestion, I thought there was something like this. But how does one activate that command? It is checked in Service Prefs, but I don't see any option to implement it either in iTunes, or in Text Edit. What am I missing? Thanks, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Piano Pub Questions
What app have you found for the mac that is more accessible? Since pianopub seems to be broken under mountain lion, at least on my system, I'd be open to the idea of trying something different. Any information you could provide would be extremely appreciated. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rose Waagan Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:53 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Piano Pub Questions Thank you for letting me know that, Alex. I use a different pandora app on the Mac now, which I find to be more accessible. But I do try to keep up with piano pub. I'll try and see what the problem could be when I get home. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2012, at 9:02 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe an dupdate happened since you wrote that guide, but it doesn't seem to work quite right. First, I can't switch stations at all. Second, I clicked the button that was supposed to be skip, and nothing happened. I labeled the thumbs up/down buttons, and they suddenly appeared in reverse order. I really with Q would port Hope over to mac... On Aug 30, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Rose Waagan r...@chicksdigmacs.net wrote: Hi Dan, Perhaps this page on my web site will help you. http://chicksdigmacs.net/node/7 Here I explain the order of buttons in pandora as well as how to play music. Simply refer to additional notes.. Hope this helps. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2012, at 5:30 AM, Dan Roy droy1...@gmail.com wrote: First, Piano Pub ver 1.5 is working ok in Mountain Lion. However, this is the first time I am using this software. 1. Does anyone know if there is a way to pause the music, I can't find anything in the menus or by tabbing around. there doesn't seem to be a help file or hotkeys either. I did figure out how to move from station to station, but, it's a little strange. Apparently, you have to hit the left mouse button twice to change the selected station, that's a little odd. I need to hit VO-shift-spacebar twice which, as I understand it, is the same as a left mouse click, I find it weird that you have to have 2 of them. Also, there are several unlabeled buttons, I can probably figure it out by trial and error, but, if someone knows the order of those buttons, I would appreciate some help, thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: pandora solutions?
Pianopub works for me if I boot using my external drive that runs snow leopard, but it doesn't work under mountain lion at all. It just brings up the problem reporter. This started happening before Mountain Lion was even released, so I'm baffled with regards to what caused it. Hopefully, there will be a pianopub update at some point. I keep checking, but haven't seen anything in a long time, and there doesn't seem to be anyone reporting the crashes under mountain lion either. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of brianna Snyder Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 1:14 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: pandora solutions? Hi, Pandora still works for me. Brianna On Aug 29, 2012, at 12:55 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I have Piano Pub for pandora, but it doesn't seem to work on ML. So, what else do people use for Pandora? I heard there are keyboard shortcuts on the website, but what are they and do they work iwth vo on Safari? Thanks. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: converting text to MP3
Hi! This service command worked very well for me under snow leopard, but under lion and mountain lion, something has changed, and it no longer works as expected. It reads the text file aloud as the conversion is going on, and if I mute that, the file is no longer created. Also, even though my punctuation is set to none, it reads the section separaters in my file. So, I still need to boot into snow leopard if I want a useable mp3 of a text file. If someone could please tell me what I'm doing wrong in mountain lion, I'd appreciate it. So far as I know, I have the service set up exactly the same way it was under Snow Leopard. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 3:04 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: converting text to MP3 Hello Donna, The easiest way to convert text to MP3 audio is to enable the service command Add to iTunes as a spoken track. You have to select the text first, and you'll be in a dialogue box where you can choose the voice. To increase the speech rate, put the command mentioned by Jane at the beginning of the text to be converted. Cheers, Anne On 29 Aug 2012, at 17:34, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi all, I know this has been around before, but it isn't something I've ever needed to do. What's the best way to convert a txt or PDF document to MP3? TIA, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: pandora solutions?
If redownloading helps, please let me know. I've redownloaded, uninstalled, reinstalled, copied the functional version from my external drive, and nothing works. I'm guessing that pianopub needs to be updated, but it seems that it's still working just fine for a lot of people. I've tried contacting the developer of pianopub, but never got any kind of response. Good luck! I sure hope you get it working. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:48 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: pandora solutions? Well, I'll try downloading it again and see if it works any better. Sorry for the misinformation and any disasters (choking, spilled drinks, etc) my news may have caused Piano Pub users who recently upgraded. On Aug 29, 2012, at 7:36 PM, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote: I am also using Piano Pub on ML with no problems. -Greg On Aug 29, 2012, at 5:22 PM, brianna Snyder briannasnyde...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I should have clarified. I use PianoPub, and I run Mountain Lion. It works as good as it ever did. Make sure you've got the latest version. Brianna On Aug 29, 2012, at 4:23 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: ok, but with Piano Pub? Chris. - Original Message - From: brianna Snyder briannasnyde...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 1:14 PM Subject: Re: pandora solutions? Hi, Pandora still works for me. Brianna On Aug 29, 2012, at 12:55 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I have Piano Pub for pandora, but it doesn't seem to work on ML. So, what else do people use for Pandora? I heard there are keyboard shortcuts on the website, but what are they and do they work iwth vo on Safari? Thanks. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Should I Upgrade to Mountain Lion 10.8.1?
I didn't notice a change in boot time, although Maybe I haven't been paying attention. The update seems to be just fine here. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 8:16 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Should I Upgrade to Mountain Lion 10.8.1? I was away for the last 4 days and as a result, away from my Mac. I saw messages on the new release of Mt. Lion. Isa there any advantage to upgrading now? I was concerned as a list member indicated re-boot times were much longer. If that's the case, I do not wish to upgrade. Thanks. Les -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: voices for the mack?
Unfortunately, the premium quality nuance voices don't allow pitch to be adjusted. I really wish they did. The compact versions allow for pitch adjustment, but the quality is horrible, at least in my opinion. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 7:11 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: voices for the mack? You do have to choose Customize. One thing that frustrates me about Lee is that unlike Alex, I cannot change pitch or intonation for some reason: just rate and volume. Anyone know why this is? Christine On Aug 23, 2012, at 9:25 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Yes there's Karen and Lee, and they are free. Go into VO utility and choose the voice row of the table there. Look around in there. YOu may need to choose customise to find all the possible options. Karen premium is what I use. You need to download her but she is worth the megabytes. No charge though. Lisette On 24/08/2012, at 1:19 PM, Chenelle Hancock filmchenelle1...@gmail.com wrote: hi all, i wanted to know if there were any australian voices for the mack that one could purchase? thanks for your help. sincerely, chenelle Sent from my iPhone On 23/08/2012, at 18:28, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Today's Topic Summary Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics • dumb mail question [2 Updates] • a new little thing about Mountain Lion [8 Updates] • Speaking rate in Voiceover [4 Updates] • Is Facebook Now Completely Broken [1 Update] • Best GPS app for iPhone [2 Updates] • 1password accessibility [1 Update] • Anyone has a link to a working version of Stanza? [1 Update] • there's an update to Mountain Lion available [1 Update] • TextEdit question [5 Updates] dumb mail question Bill Holton bill32...@gmail.com Aug 23 03:52PM -0400 Hi. What is the best voiceover command to use that will get mail to consistently open a web URL insight email? Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Aug 23 06:10PM -0400 Hi, I would navigate by character to the url itself then press VO space. If that fails you, do the same but instead of pressing VO space, press VO shift M to bring up the context menu and select to open link or something like that. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info a new little thing about Mountain Lion Joseph Norton joseph.nor...@gmail.com Aug 23 04:15PM -0400 Well, they finally did it! Now, when downloading the BootCamp Windows Support software, they finally give you a progress report. Not a big thing, but, it's a tiny improvement. Now to try VMWare Fusion 5 and see what it can do. Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net Aug 23 03:18PM -0500 So, does this make it possible for a blind person to install windows using bootcamp independantly; or, need we wait for yet more work to be done? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Christopher-Mark gilland clgillan...@gmail.com Aug 23 04:30PM -0400 You know, that doesn't sound like that half bad of an idea. I too have vm ware 5, but have been really hesitant to install it and set a vm of Windows 7 up on it as I was a little scared from the horror stories I heard... but then again, I guess that was from Boot Camp, not from Fusion, huh. Anyways... Chris. - Original Message - From: Joseph Norton joseph.nor...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 4:15 PM Subject: a new little thing about Mountain Lion christopher hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com Aug 23 10:09PM +0100 Let us know please as I want to try Bootcamp at some stage. Thanks!On 23 Aug 2012, at 21:18, Ray Foret Jr wrote: christopher hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com Aug 23 10:10PM +0100 Wow only downloaded Fusion 4 I think last night or the night before. On 23 Aug 2012, at 21:15, Joseph Norton wrote: Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com Aug 23 05:19PM -0400 Then you should be eligible for a free upgrade. CB On 8/23/12 5:10 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Aug 23 06:04PM -0400 I would doubt it. Installing windows really has nothing to do with the bootcamp set up at that point. It would be up to MS to make the installation of windows accessible. Of course, as a parson who uses bootcamp, I hope I'm wrong. lol. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com Aug 23 05:08PM -0500 You're right. It'd be up to Microsoft to make windows installs accessible, since that progress bar is only for installing the mac side of bootcamp. Unfortunately, Windows 8 will be the only version of windows for the first time
RE: Awe, how coot! Look at the perty little Apple. Not?
I bought the protective shell separately. You can get virtually any color you want from Amazon. They're around $20, and I think the quality is outstanding. The shell doesn't interfere with any ports at allk, and it makes it look as though I have a pretty blue macbook. I also like that the shell was simple as pie to put on. I had it installed in less than a minute. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark gilland Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 12:47 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Awe, how coot! Look at the perty little Apple. Not? A blue shell? I thought that the pros were a light aluminum silver, and the polly carbon ones like I have were all solid snow white. I didn't think they made the systems in multi colors. How did you manage to make your's be blue? Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Is Facebook Now Completely Broken
I was never a huge facebook fan to begin with. The mobile site is/was useable enough; I managed to delete my account from there, but I always found the main site to be entirely too cluttered. The more I hear about facebook's growing inaccessibility, the happier I am that I deleted my account. I had nothing but problems from day one, and if I ever do try to use facebook again, I'm going to have sighted assistance so that I know my privacy options are set the way I want them. I'll be monitoring this thread with interest, but as I said, the more I hear, the happier I am with my decision to eliminate facebook from my life. Twitter is all the social networking Ineed. Just my $0.2 worth. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 3:48 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Is Facebook Now Completely Broken I use the mobile site, and I am not having this issue. Facebook stinks regardless, and gets worse with each iteration IMHO. Christine On Aug 22, 2012, at 3:42 PM, Christopher-Mark gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Even on the mobile site, you have this issue? Chris. - Original Message - From: Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com To: MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 2:36 PM Subject: Re: Is Facebook Now Completely Broken Ok, there is no way this can just be happening to me. If I go to Facebook through Safari, Menu Tab, or Facebook Mobile through Safari on my desktop using Mountain Lion, as soon as I go to What's On Your Mind, the text field where I have been posting my comments for years, VO says, What's On Your Mind Combo Box. It says that through anything I am trying to access FB with. I try to type and nothing, I interact with the combo and nothing. There is no way to update your status. I have restarted my computer thinking maybe it was an error, but am still getting this combo box thing. Any suggestions, as I find it hard to believe it is just me. I have not played around with any settings, it just started happening this morning. On Aug 22, 12:45 pm, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: I have had it with Facebook, and if I didn't need it for work would get rid of it. I went to update a status this morning, and went to the website, was so happy as everything in Mountain Lion had been working great, as I had set the sweet spot to go straight to update status field, and then today, I go there and there is now a combo box that is in the update status text field. I VO shift Down in to the Combo Box tried typing and nothing, tried moving around and nothing. I said ok let me go to Menu Tab and just update my status there, and guess what same thing, the update status text field now has a combo box there. Has anyone else had this happen today? If so, any work around? The people who run the mobile site on their desktop are you having the same problem? I am a non-violent person, but if I ever meet anyone who works for Facebook, I am going to punch them in the face. They could be the worst company out there along with ESPN who have made no effort to make their site better compatabile with screen readers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Cool discovery about Notification Center in Mountain Lion
That is pretty neat, but it's way more complicated than it needs to be. I set up a notification center hot key: command, control N. When I press that hot key, the first thing that pops up is the ability to disable banners and alerts for 24 hours. I've never actually wanted to do that, but it's neat to know its there. I'm glad that there are so many alternative methods of accomplishing the same task, though. It sometimes seems that people jump through a bunch of extra hoops to accomplish something relatively simple, when basic keyboard navigation can often achieve similar, if not exactly the same results. Thanks for sharing, though. I'm sure it will be beneficial to a lot of folks on this list. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark gilland Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 7:43 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Cool discovery about Notification Center in Mountain Lion If you didn't know about this, and did like I did and accidentally enabled it, it could become really annoying, but I googled and figured out what I'd done, and how, and now, it's actually quite nice, now that I know what I'm doing. So, here's what I found out. If you go up into your extras menu bar area where your icons are like the notification center, if you go over to the notifications area, then make sure your actual mouse pointer is on the icon with vo+command+F5, if you then click your literal mouse/track pad, sorry, vo+command+space isn't gonna do the trick here, you literally! have to vo+command+click the actual mouse, but anyway, if you click the physical mouse, now here's the trick though... while! holding down your option key, you're not gonna think anything happened from a Voiceover standpoint, however, lookat what you just did! Vo away and then back to the notificatino center icon! Cool! Huh! You just toggled on Do not Disturb for one whole day, 24 hours! Now, if you wanna toggle dnd back off, just do the same thing... option+literally click the icon again. Notice, this was not a typo on option+my part. I am perfectly aware that control clicking is your context shortcut menu. That isn't! what I'm talking about. I do literally mean the option key, not? the control key. I just thought that was a cool little tip that I accidentally stumbled on, totally by accident and would let you all know about. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Cool discovery about Notification Center in Mountain Lion
It shows up right at the top of the window. I did keyboard shortcuts, and then I think it's under launchpad or something. All I know is that when I do the notifications center hotkey, the disabling thing is right at the top of the menu. If it would help, I could try to do a brief audio demo later on today. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark gilland Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 9:16 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Cool discovery about Notification Center in Mountain Lion Where are you seeing an option to set a hot key for this? I looked everywhere in the keyboard shortcuts preferences paine with no luck under the notifications category. I see a way to bring up and close the notification center but not a way to get at the option to disable for 24 hours. Do tell. Chris. - Original Message - From: Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 8:32 AM Subject: RE: Cool discovery about Notification Center in Mountain Lion That is pretty neat, but it's way more complicated than it needs to be. I set up a notification center hot key: command, control N. When I press that hot key, the first thing that pops up is the ability to disable banners and alerts for 24 hours. I've never actually wanted to do that, but it's neat to know its there. I'm glad that there are so many alternative methods of accomplishing the same task, though. It sometimes seems that people jump through a bunch of extra hoops to accomplish something relatively simple, when basic keyboard navigation can often achieve similar, if not exactly the same results. Thanks for sharing, though. I'm sure it will be beneficial to a lot of folks on this list. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark gilland Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 7:43 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Cool discovery about Notification Center in Mountain Lion If you didn't know about this, and did like I did and accidentally enabled it, it could become really annoying, but I googled and figured out what I'd done, and how, and now, it's actually quite nice, now that I know what I'm doing. So, here's what I found out. If you go up into your extras menu bar area where your icons are like the notification center, if you go over to the notifications area, then make sure your actual mouse pointer is on the icon with vo+command+F5, if you then click your literal mouse/track pad, sorry, vo+command+space isn't gonna do the trick here, you literally! have to vo+command+click the actual mouse, but anyway, if you click the physical mouse, now here's the trick though... while! holding down your option key, you're not gonna think anything happened from a Voiceover standpoint, however, lookat what you just did! Vo away and then back to the notificatino center icon! Cool! Huh! You just toggled on Do not Disturb for one whole day, 24 hours! Now, if you wanna toggle dnd back off, just do the same thing... option+literally click the icon again. Notice, this was not a typo on option+my part. I am perfectly aware that control clicking is your context shortcut menu. That isn't! what I'm talking about. I do literally mean the option key, not? the control key. I just thought that was a cool little tip that I accidentally stumbled on, totally by accident and would let you all know about. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group
RE: Cool discovery about Notification Center in Mountain Lion
I'm glad you found it. It's weird, though, that I don't think I've ever needed to interract to get to it. Ah well. At least the mystery has been solved. (smile) -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark gilland Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 9:50 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Cool discovery about Notification Center in Mountain Lion OK, I feel totally stupid! Missy, I just found the checkbox you're talking about. I had to actually interact first with the notifications table, then vo+left arrow to scroll up the screen, as apparently it doesn't take you vo+to the top of that table by default. Once I did this, I found it. Sorry for the confusion. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Sudden weirdness with Finder
Hi, all! I just rebooted my mac after having been in bootcamp mode for a while, and it's acting very, very strange. When I do command shift h, I'm used to seeing my home folder in the list view. When I did that same command a few minutes ago, all that came up is the users folder. If I did command O on my own account, nothing happened. It only works if I use the left and right arrows to navigate. So far as I know, absolutely nothing has changed on my system, so I'm baffled with regards to the cause of this strange behavior. If anyone has any ideas on how I might be able to get things acting normal again, I would greatly appreciate it. If it matters, I'm using mountain lion, but as I said, everything was perfectly normal yesterday. Thanks in advance for any help you may be able to provide. Missy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Finder Preference?
Command comma should do the trick. Good luck! -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jesus Garcia Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 3:38 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Finder Preference? Afternoon folks can someone tell me how to get to the finder preference within Mountain lion? I would like to place my Mac HD back on the desk top. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Sudden weirdness with Finder
I tried changing it back to list view multiple, multiple times, but it wasn't working. I rebooted, though, and then it seemed to fix itself. I'll keep a watch on it for future orneriness, though. That was very odd, and I was afraid it was broken somehow. _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 4:34 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Sudden weirdness with Finder Are you in a different view than what you're used to? Cmd with 1 through 4 will switch views, or find the toolbar or the view menu for the same thing. On Aug 17, 2012, at 3:18 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hi, all! I just rebooted my mac after having been in bootcamp mode for a while, and it's acting very, very strange. When I do command shift h, I'm used to seeing my home folder in the list view. When I did that same command a few minutes ago, all that came up is the users folder. If I did command O on my own account, nothing happened. It only works if I use the left and right arrows to navigate. So far as I know, absolutely nothing has changed on my system, so I'm baffled with regards to the cause of this strange behavior. If anyone has any ideas on how I might be able to get things acting normal again, I would greatly appreciate it. If it matters, I'm using mountain lion, but as I said, everything was perfectly normal yesterday. Thanks in advance for any help you may be able to provide. Missy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Growl in Mountain Lion
I love growl for dropbox notifications. I don't use it for much else at this point since Pianopub seems to be broken, but it can be used for all kinds of neat things. I'm sure others can be of more assistance, but once you get it set up the way you want, Growl is awesome. I was having trouble getting the paid version to work under mountain lion, so I just went back to the last free version. It might not be as fancy, but it does what I need it to do. Good luck, and I hope this helps a little. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Fischler Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 2:35 PM To: MacVisionaries Subject: Growl in Mountain Lion Hey all, I have never used Growl before and have been reading through all the threads on it to get a better understanding, but still am not sure what the whole point of it is. I was surprised to learn that Growl is installed on my system, as I don't recall ever installing as saw that you had to buy it in the app store. Is the paid version more advanced? What do people use Growl for? I do not need to be notified of incoming mail messages as I am constantly checking my mail, but would love to get notified of when certain friends tweet or post to Facebook. Does Growl work with Menu Tab or Night Owl? I did see Night Owl in the applications for Growl in my system preferences, but again am not sure what it does. I was also surprised to learn that all of my applications were enabled, but I never get any kind of notifications. I did read something about turning speech on, so maybe this whole time I have had little Growl messages popping up but never saying anything. Thanks for any help. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Using Boot Camp
Oh, absolutely! I hate that I wasted money on fusion. I tried using it, but it just wasn't useable in my opinion. I love my bootcamp installation. It works like a dream, and in some ways, the mac out performs my main pc. It's quite cool! I think it depends on your individual needs, but for me, I'd much rather reboot when I need windows and when I want to use the mac as a mac, I've never needed windows at the same time. I hope this makes sense and that it helps a little. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mika Pyyhkala Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 11:55 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Using Boot Camp I'm also curious for those of you who have used both Fusion and bootcamp if you have found bootcamp based Windows installations to be a lot more responsive, etc. Best, Mika On 8/10/12, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: 1. You can read, but not write, the mac partition in windows. It works the same in mac os: you can read the windows partition, but not write to it. 2. I use Carbonite, but my understanding is that you can't back up both as they are different partitions. You could pay $99 per year to back up your primary drive and a backup drive (your other partition) but the basic, $59/year package allows only one drive to be backed up. You can call carbonite (1-877-2225488) and check with them. As to accessibility, the site works, and the client works well enough on Windows (you may need the jaws cursor though). I don't know about the mac client as I have not yet tried it. On Aug 10, 2012, at 1:51 PM, Paul Hunt prhu...@att.net wrote: Hello everyone. I have been running Windows with VM Fusion for the past two years. Although it works pretty well there are problems. 1. Freedom Scientific doesn't support its applications when they are running in a Virtual Machine. If I make any changes to the VM I lose an activation. Freedom Scientific gets quite irritated when they have to reset keys too often. 2. Although Windows and MS office work pretty well in the VM, Open Book does not. 3. FS Braille Display drivers do not load in the VM. 4. I got a chance to compare performance with the VM and with Boot Camp. There is no comparison, Boot Camp performs much much better. Here are my questions. 1. Will I have any problems reading from or writing to files on the MAC partition? 2. Do any of you use Carbonite to back up both your boot camp and Mac partitions? Is the web site for Carbonite accessible? I will continue to use the MAC for ITunes. I also want to keep up with accessibility improvements in the IWork suite. Thanks so much. Paul -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: system voice?
You should be able to go to where you set up the system voice. In lion or earlier, it's under system preferences and then speech, and in Mountain lion, it's system preferences and then dictation and speech. Anyway, you can ajust the rate there. I bumped mine up to about 70 percent, and it's pretty good most of the time. Good luck, and if you need more detailed instructions, let me know and I'll try to get more specific. _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Maria Chapman Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 7:27 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: system voice? HI guys. Just wondering about something. it's not a big deal. Use a few apps that uses the system voice, like growl, rs games and mudder. I think it's called the system voice, You know if growl is set to speech and a notification comes in etc there is a separate voice apart from the normal voice over that announces things? Was wondering if there was any way to speed that voice up? I can speed it up in rs games because there seems to be a setting in the app for that, but is there a way to speed it up generally? It's just a touch too slow. thanks guys,. hope this email makes sense. Maria Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong. - Mahatma Gandhi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Infovox ivox mananger/voices
These voices are fantastic! I still use Alex in Vo, but I use Infovox Tracy for my system voice/growl notifications. I have all of the English speaking infovox voices, and really like them. Some of them have some weird pronunciation issues, but then again, what tts voice doesn't have that problem? I'd take the Infovox voices over the Nuance/realSpeak voices any ttime. I hope this helps! _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krysti .Power Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 12:13 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Infovox ivox mananger/voices Has anyone ever tried/bought a voice if so how's the quality -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Mountain Lion Question
I'd love an answer to this too. It's a minor annoyance, but if its something that can be fixed, it would make Mountain Lion virtually perfect for me. Like you, I've unchecked the kind column with no effect. I liked the way finder was read in previous versions of OSX, and for me, list view is vastly preferable to the other options, but changing to another view doesn't solve the problem and just makes things even weirder, at least for me. So, if you find an answer to this, please let me know. (smile) _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gavin Grundlingh Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 4:24 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Mountain Lion Question Hi all, Is there any way to stop VoiceOver from anouncing the kind of item you are focused on in finder? I've disabled the Kind column in the view options, but I still hear things like, application, folder, wave audio file, unix executable file, etc. Regards, Gavin Grundlingh Phone: +27 (0) 83 713-6191 Secondary Phone: +27 (0) 79 157-2466 Fax: +27 (0) 86 617-5792 Email: g.batw...@gmail.com Secondary Email: customtra...@live.co.za Skype: Batworx Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/batworx Twitter: http://twitter.com/baworx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Infovox ivox mananger/voices
If they ever make it possible to use acapella voices with vo on Ios devices, I'd start saving up for an IPhone right away. As it is, my one of the things I'm dreading the most, apart from having to learn the touch screen, is dealing with Samantha on a constant basis. I can't explain why, but that voice just irritates me beyond all reason. It's why I bought a booksense instead of a victor reader. I'm sure it would be possible to make infovox voices for IOS, and I understand that they'd have to be purchased separately, but I sure wish they'd make it allowable to use voices from other venders. Nuance is seriously over-rated in my opinion . Infovox voices are great, and if there's no way to make Alex for IOS, I think we should be able to use infovox if we want to. I have Acapella Rachel on my antique htc s743 windows 6.1 cell phone, and she works great! _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of erik burggraaf Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 7:02 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Infovox ivox mananger/voices I agree, The tone and inflection of the IVox voices is much nicer than that vocalizer stuff that ships by default. They've come down considerably in price too since I bought my first mac. Best, Erik Burggraaf Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service, starting at $0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards. Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2012-08-08, at 6:54 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: These voices are fantastic! I still use Alex in Vo, but I use Infovox Tracy for my system voice/growl notifications. I have all of the English speaking infovox voices, and really like them. Some of them have some weird pronunciation issues, but then again, what tts voice doesn't have that problem? I'd take the Infovox voices over the Nuance/realSpeak voices any ttime. I hope this helps! _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krysti .Power Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 12:13 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Infovox ivox mananger/voices Has anyone ever tried/bought a voice if so how's the quality -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: New App that sends Growl notifications to Notification Center
Hi there! I actually tried Hiss, but it didn't work for me. it just popped up an empty window at startup, and then didn't do much of anything. I ended up going back to growl 1.22F, or whatever that last version was that ran in system preferences. It does exactly what I need it to do, so my thinking is that if it ain't broke, I shouldn't try to fix it. I'm curious to hear more of your thoughts on Hiss, though. It sounded like a neat program, but at least on my system, it didn't seem to do anything. As for preventing the newer version of growl for running at start-up, you should be able to go into your apps folder, open Growl, and that will cause its preferences window to be displayed. Part of the reason I chose to go back to the old growl is that under Mountain Lion, this wasn't happening. The new, app store growl just wasn't working at all as expected. Good luck, and I hope you get it working! Missy _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 11:10 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: New App that sends Growl notifications to Notification Center Hey all. I just found an app that integrates Growl notifications to Notification Center. The app is called Hiss. It's in beta at this moment that I'm writing this but I'm quite impressed with it. This is something that I've wanted so I downloaded it. You can download the app at http://collect3.com.au/hiss/ Like I said, it is in beta so there's bound to be bugs, but it's pretty accessible with Voiceover. The only condition is that Growl needs to be closed for this app to work. I've set Hiss to start up at log in so for people that have the new Growl installed, since there appears to be no checkbox where there should be for start Growl at log in, how do you set it so that it doesn't start at log in? Shawn Sent from my white Mac Book -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion
Hi! I was trying to refrain from jumpint in on this topic, but I'm genuinely baffled by the original post and those who supported it. The original post may have reflected my feelings about lion, and I remember being tempted to sell my mac last year because I found lion to be so hateful, but I just made the best of it, knowing that updates would come along and fix the problems sooner or later. Sure enough, patience paid off. If I'm ever going to enjoy using my mac on a more regular basis, Mountain Lion will be the OS that makes that happen. So far as I can tell, almost everything I hated about lion has been fixed, and for the 1 or 2 very minor issues that still exist, I have my external drive that runs snow leopard. Mountain lion is significantly faster than Lion was, I haven't had any busies that I can recall, and best of all, VO always comes on at start-up, something which almost never happened under lion for me. Folks are definitely entitled to their opinions, but this almost seems like deliberate bashing just to cause drama. Maybe I'm the exception to the rule, but I simply can't imagine anyone thinking that Lion was better than ML. OK. I'm done now. I don't want to contribute too much to the drama, but I just had to speak up since for me, Mountain Lion is like a night and day improvement over Lion, and I'm genuinely excited about using my mac now. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Tanner Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:17 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion I would definately agree, but if you remember, last year when Lion came out we went through this same complaint cycle. People want all the new stuff, but they want it to all work the same and don't want to take the time and energy to learn the new stuff. Some how it should just jump into their minds how to do everything. Perhaps, people should get the two new books from Bookshare about Mountain Lion and study those and learn before complaining. - Original Message - From: Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 3:42 AM Subject: Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion Hello All. Now what I might say may be something that people may not like but I am one for plain speaking and will not mince my words. However, this is my opinion. People say that they may be disappointed with one thing or another and it is their right to do so of course. But when anything new is released, there is going to be bugs etc as I have been a beta tester and know how hard people work to get a product into shape. So rather than people complaining as people seem to do, why not just send your concerns to Apple Accessibility and rather than bashing a product work with them to improve a producct? It would be so positivve to do that and sit and be passive about things as everyone would make a difference. If everything was plain sailing, life would be dull. So chill and think to do something positive. Kawal. On 31 Jul 2012, at 04:41 AM, James Mannion mannion...@gmail.com wrote: And when the accessible web browsing experience on the mac at least matches windows, I'll buy it. busy busy busy, can't handel large amounts of text, ignores this and that on the page, the entire web thing was why I gave up on the mac thing and sold my mac mini. To do the web on the mac you have to put on those rose colored glasses that view everything from a pro Apple perspective and you can't require that it gets the job done. Jim On 7/30/12, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Been reading all these posts the last few days about how amazed everyone is with Mountain Lion, and not sure what all the amazement iss about. It only took three days as I just had to use the Force Quit for Safari, and all it took was actually trying to login to my Yahoo Fantasy Baseball Page. I pulled it up and first the first time ever got a cookie message that said my safari cookie had expired, after I got out of that window safari did nothing but Busy Busy Busy for the better part of ten minutes before I went to force quit. I already had been very unimpressed with Mountain Lion between the VO space bar not properly selecting items I clicked on to the features being very blah Seriously dictation is useless for anyone who knows how to type. The notification center is useless especially if you keep Night Owl open like I do to Tweet, and Imessage, I'm sorry but I fail to see the point as most of us have our Iphone sitting right next to us. I hate to be so negative, but considering how many people were bashing Lion which didn't have that many problems, I fail to see where the significant upgrade is. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to
RE: notification center
Yes, I'm curious about this as well. After a bit of experimentation and a few visits to activity monitor, I've noticed that Growl is no longer running at start-up, even if I manually add it. Growl Saphari and Growl Tunes are listed in start-up, but not growl itself. I had to disable hardware growler for the time being, because if I let it run at startup, I get stuck in this window that says hardware growler has no windows. Since I love it that Mountain Lion starts me off on the desktop like Snowy Kitty did, I'm trying not to run anything at startup that might interfere with that. Anyway, I'm guessing that all of these issues might be part of a bug that is fixed when new growl is released, but at the moment, it seems that growl and notification center don't want to coexist, at least not by default. If I open my apps folder and run growl manually, then it seems to work, but it refuses to run at startup even when I tell it to, and a lot of its general options are either greyed out or missing entirely. Again, I suspect a lot will be fixed when Growl 2.0 is released. So, it's just a matter of waiting and seeing what happens. I set up growl from within notification center, but that doesn't help either. In fact, I'm wondering if that might be part of the problem that's preventing growl from running at start-up. It's a puzzler for sure! Missy _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 4:18 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: notification center Chris, in the last postings of this thread, you said that you remembered there being a way to set Growl up to work with Notification Center. I looked in system prefs under Notifications and saw no such setting. Also, in my list of applications in Growl preferences, Notification Center isn't there. How did you configure Growl to work with Notification Center? Shawn Sent from my white Mac Book -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: notification center
Hmm. That makes this even more puzzling. I'm running the new version of growl from the app store because somewhere along the line, I thought I had to switch to that. I think I have the old version on a USB drive, though, and if it actually works with ML, maybe I'll just go back to it. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 5:43 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: notification center Interesting, I'm using the old version of growl and, it runs side by side with notification center and, its button is in system preferences still. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jul 28, 2012, at 5:34 AM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I'm curious about this as well. After a bit of experimentation and a few visits to activity monitor, I've noticed that Growl is no longer running at start-up, even if I manually add it. Growl Saphari and Growl Tunes are listed in start-up, but not growl itself. I had to disable hardware growler for the time being, because if I let it run at startup, I get stuck in this window that says hardware growler has no windows. Since I love it that Mountain Lion starts me off on the desktop like Snowy Kitty did, I'm trying not to run anything at startup that might interfere with that. Anyway, I'm guessing that all of these issues might be part of a bug that is fixed when new growl is released, but at the moment, it seems that growl and notification center don't want to coexist, at least not by default. If I open my apps folder and run growl manually, then it seems to work, but it refuses to run at startup even when I tell it to, and a lot of its general options are either greyed out or missing entirely. Again, I suspect a lot will be fixed when Growl 2.0 is released. So, it's just a matter of waiting and seeing what happens. I set up growl from within notification center, but that doesn't help either. In fact, I'm wondering if that might be part of the problem that's preventing growl from running at start-up. It's a puzzler for sure! Missy _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 4:18 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: notification center Chris, in the last postings of this thread, you said that you remembered there being a way to set Growl up to work with Notification Center. I looked in system prefs under Notifications and saw no such setting. Also, in my list of applications in Growl preferences, Notification Center isn't there. How did you configure Growl to work with Notification Center? Shawn Sent from my white Mac Book -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Dropbox menu gone from the context menu in files in the publick dropbox folder?
I've got dropbox 1.5.10 running. I haven't checked the context menu, but I'd be willing to bet it's working. I've also heard that the install is now accessible, but since I was just upgrading, I didn't get to experience this for myself. _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 1:16 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Dropbox menu gone from the context menu in files in the publick dropbox folder? Are you sure you have the latest dropbox? The latest version of dropbox is version 4.12. Get the latest version of dropbox, and your problem will entirely go away. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray On Jul 28, 2012, at 11:13 AM, trahern culver tecks-...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: hey all i went to share some files with some one from my publick drop box folder i right clicked the context menue as you do but the drop box sub menu has vanished does any one know what the problem is? your help with this question would be most welcome kind regards trahern. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: notification center
Hi there! Thanks to Chris's suggestion on this list, I simply went back to Growl version 1.22F or whatever it was called. It's the last version that put growl in system preferences. Anyway, I only stopped using that because I somehow got the impression that it didn't work with lion. Well, to make a long story a bit shorter, it seems to be working beautifully under Mountain Lion, so unless there's a very compelling reason to update it at a later date, I'm planning to just keep that version; it does what I need it to do, and as long as it works, that's good enough for me. Thanks! Missy _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 1:30 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: notification center Missy, you are right in assuming that Growl not starting up at login is a bug. With me, it depends on how its mood is. Lol. But I read that they do plan on addressing this bug in a future update. HTH. Shawn Sent from my white Mac Book -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Dropbox menu gone from the context menu in files in the publick dropbox folder?
It seems to be perfectly stable to me. I would suggest trying to do a google search for dropbox beta. If it doesn't show up that way, let me know, and we'll try something else. _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 1:54 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Dropbox menu gone from the context menu in files in the publick dropbox folder? Missy, Can you point me to a link where I can grab that version? I know it's an unstable one, but I need to grab the dmg to put in my folder where I keep all my disc images of stuff whenever I need to reinstall the OS. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Missy Hoppe Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 12:49 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Dropbox menu gone from the context menu in files in the publick dropbox folder? I've got dropbox 1.5.10 running. I haven't checked the context menu, but I'd be willing to bet it's working. I've also heard that the install is now accessible, but since I was just upgrading, I didn't get to experience this for myself. _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 1:16 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Dropbox menu gone from the context menu in files in the publick dropbox folder? Are you sure you have the latest dropbox? The latest version of dropbox is version 4.12. Get the latest version of dropbox, and your problem will entirely go away. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray On Jul 28, 2012, at 11:13 AM, trahern culver tecks-...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: hey all i went to share some files with some one from my publick drop box folder i right clicked the context menue as you do but the drop box sub menu has vanished does any one know what the problem is? your help with this question would be most welcome kind regards trahern. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Mountain Lion repeating information in finder
Thanks! I actually did some playing around and found that last night. I should have written in to say it was fixed. It doesn't seem to have fixed it globally, but now I know how to fix it if I need to. I also unchecked date added, and that made it behave almost exactly the way it used to. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shen Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 1:59 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mountain Lion repeating information in finder Hi, I had to try it myself to see what you were talking about. Here is how to get rid of it. Open any folder where this is happening, my guess is the home folder. Open view preferences by pressing Command-J. Uncheck the check box for Kind. It's interesting that if you are looking at a folder, VoiceOver will say folder. But if kind is checked, it will show you visually that it is a folder, which VoiceOver will then say folder a second time. Probably not a bug, but does seem a little odd. On Jul 26, 2012, at 9:13 AM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hi, all. I couldn't think of a more concise way to sum up the problem for the subject of this message. Actually, this isn't a problem as much as an annoyance. If I'm in a finder window, it seems to be telling me information twice. For example, if I'm scrolling down, it might say something like documents folder followed by the date and whatever else, and then it says folder again. Same for actual files. It says the file name, then what type of document it is, then the date info, and then what type of file it is again. I've looked through verbosity settings, and can't seem to find anything to fix this problem. It could be that my short term memory is even more pitiful than usual, and this is the way it's always read, but I don't think so. I thought the file type info was only read after the date and stuff. For example: documents July 26 12:10 PM folder I don't know if I'm explaining this right, but the bottom line is that file type information is being read twice, and I'd really appreciate it if someone had an idea how that could be fixed. Over all, I'm still loving mountain lion, though. The new features and improved start-up definitely cancel out any minor quirks I've encountered. Missy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: notification center
The problem is, though, at least in my experience so far, that is VO is already reading something, the notifications are never spoken. They need to make it more similar to Growl, where the system voice is used. I think notification center has a ton of potential, but as it is at the moment, it's not particularly helpful. Just my opinion, of course, and we all know what opinions are worth. (smile) Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark BurningHawk Baxter Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 2:56 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: notification center Okay, I grant you, hearing what messages you have rather than going to the window and browsing through them might be useful, and a Messages notification will actually speak the message it just notified you about. I agree it cuts down on the need to stop what you're doing or break the rhythm. . Mark BurningHawk Baxter . AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 . MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com . My home page: . http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: notification center
I set growl up to use speech ages ago. I'll double check notification center; still not clear what settings are ideal for that. I disabled badges because I figured they're all just graphics. I also set it to use banners, thinking they'd just fade away and not cause any discontent; thought that would be ideal for use with growl. Things still aren't 100 percent, though, so either it will be fixed when a new version of growl is released, or there's still something I don't have set quite right. Last night, growl was working as expected, but this afternoon, its back to being silent, so I'm slightly puzzled. Anyway, if someone could please explain the whole badges, banners, alerts thing, I'd really appreciate it. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 3:36 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: notification center But that's just it, Missie, I think if you install Growl, then you set NC to! growl, then, it'll work, provided you have Growl set up to speech and not to a graffical based scheme, like say, smoke, or what not. Chris. - Original Message - From: Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 3:00 PM Subject: RE: notification center The problem is, though, at least in my experience so far, that is VO is already reading something, the notifications are never spoken. They need to make it more similar to Growl, where the system voice is used. I think notification center has a ton of potential, but as it is at the moment, it's not particularly helpful. Just my opinion, of course, and we all know what opinions are worth. (smile) Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark BurningHawk Baxter Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 2:56 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: notification center Okay, I grant you, hearing what messages you have rather than going to the window and browsing through them might be useful, and a Messages notification will actually speak the message it just notified you about. I agree it cuts down on the need to stop what you're doing or break the rhythm. . Mark BurningHawk Baxter . AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 . MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com . My home page: . http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Busy, busy everywhere
Same here. I don't think I've had any busys at all, and startup is a lot faster. I'm very, very glad I got Mountain Lion! -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lisette Wesseling Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 5:38 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Busy, busy everywhere Hi Alex I would actually say the opposite. There is less busy busy on my 2011 MacBook pro with 4 gb ram than in Lion. Start up is definitely faster and I think VO is a bit snappier. Lisette On 28/07/2012, at 4:17 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone else noticed this? I went through enough of that constant busy stuff before I got a working monitor. If 10.8 causes those problems, I don't think I'll be upgrading until they're fixed. On 7/27/12, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I suggest repairing permissions in disk utilities. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jul 27, 2012, at 8:10 AM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote: Since installing ML, I am noticing a huge increase in busy messages in Mail, Safari, Finder -- everywhere. Exceedingly annoying. Sometimes, toggling VO off and on helps, but often not. Also, I've noticed that whenever I have to use VO space for anything, it almost always requires a second or third press. Thoughts? Experiences? Work-arounds? TIA. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: clean install?
I agree with this completely. I remember when I got lion and had a few weird issues. I tried a clean install after backing up my upgraded install first. Long story short: things were a lot worse with the clean install, so I restored my updated install and just muddled through until Wednesday when ML came on the seen. More importantly, Apple seems to recommend just updating to the new OS, so it only makes sense to do what apple recommends. For me, the Mountain Lion update couldn't have gone more smoothly, and as Tim has just said, unless you have other circumstances involved, a clean install seems like a tremendous waste of time and energy. But, to each his/her own. _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 7:01 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: clean install? Hi, Just my opinion of course but I'll pipe in here with a further comment. I do hear a lot of folks on this list speaking of using Clean Installs. I'm guessing that they may be coming from a Windows background where clean installs seem to be needed more often due to corrupt files. For the most part though, in the MacOS, this is unnecessary unless you are experiencing very erratic behaviour. 99 times out of 100 I've been able to fix the issue by repairing disk permissions or removing and reinstalling an offending app. People should do what they are most comfortable doing although I'm one who doesn't care spending a huge amount of time fiddling with things when I could be enjoying them instead. Have a good one all. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On 2012-07-27, at 3:41 PM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with you for the most part, Tim. However, after having my Mac Mini for two years without doing a clean install, VO began muting itself spontaneously, and a sys diagnose file began appearing without warning in a finder window. I decided to use a clean install to clear these things up. Believe me, I do think the upgrades are much, much easier, and I will use them as long as my machine isn't acting up. Teresa On Jul 27, 2012, at 2:20 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, In my opinion, the clean install would be totally unnecessary. I've done 100s or even 1000s of upgrade installs in my career and have only experienced one problem. The upgrade process is tested quite rigorously and, really, for the most part, is no different than a clean install and migration. As long as you have either a Time Machine backup or some other backup of your important data, I'd just go with the upgrade install. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On 2012-07-27, at 2:47 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I'm finally home, and plan to do the upgrade later today (here's hoping I don't run into the installation or semper busy problems reported). So, before I do: should I do a clean install or an upgrade over Lion (My mini came with Lion)? If clean, I know I'd have to put ML on a thumb drive, but aside from that, what do I do? Is the whole process accessible? Thanks. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For
RE: Mountain Lion Is Awesome!
Ah. Thanks for this. I didn't look under mission control. This should be simple now. One final question, and then I think I'll be all set, at least for the time being. How do I need to configure things so that VO will read notifications automatically. I set up the twitter integration without any trouble, but mostly, I want dropbox notifications to be read again. _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 12:29 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mountain Lion Is Awesome! OK, here's what you do. So, you said you got to keyboard, so I'll just start yoou at that point. So, once you're in here, go to the shortcuts tab. OK, in here you're gonna see two tables. The first one is a category table. So what you need to do in this example is to interact with that table, and then go down to mission control. OK, once there, you can quit interacting with the table. Now move over to the right, and you'll see the second table. Interact with this table, then vo+down arrow until you get to the one for notification center. It's probably gonna say none. OK, so now interact again a second time with that row in the table. This way, we can vo+left and right arrow collumn by collumn on that item. Now, go all the way to the left, and you should see a cfheck box which isn't checked. Vo+space on it to check it, and as soon as it does, notice that you land in an edit text field. Now, be really careful here! Simply push the keystroke you globally want to use. For me, I did command+option+shift+N. You do what you wanna do, just be sure in no apps that you know of, it's gonna conflict. Once pressed, hit vo+right arrow once to move away from the field, then vo+left arrow to read and confirm. NOw vo+right arrow again to be sure you're off the field and that the next keystroke won't be taken as the command you want to use. Then hit command+W to close the prefs window. Either that or hit command+L, to return to your prefs screen if you need to change other preferences aside from within the keyboard. HTH. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Making notification short cut
I've made the shortcut now, and it works great. You have to go to keyboard in system settings. Then go to shortcuts and mission control. Then, look for notifications center. Actually, Chris explained this way, way better than I'm managing to, so if you can find his post, you won't have any trouble with this at all. Good luck! Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lisette Wesseling Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 5:41 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Making notification short cut Hi, How are people making the notification short cut? I tried to do this using the voice over keyboard commander but notifications wasn't one of the apps you can choose there. Please can someone describe how they made a short cut to take you straight to the notification centre? Thanks. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Notification center/growl questions
Hi! I was just wondering if there's any way to configure notification center to use the system voice? Sometimes, if I'm reading something else, notifications aren't read, so if it's possible to configure it to use the system voice, that would be helpful. Also, has anyone tried this little program called Hiss? It supposedly bridges the gap between growl and notification center, but so far, I haven't been impressed with its performance, especially since it doesn't honor growl settings with regard to system voice being used. Is there going to be a growl update soon that will resolve all of these minor issues? Also, I've noticed, especially if notification center is telling me about a dm or mention I received on twitter, that it doesn't read the whole thing. Is that fixible, or would I have to go to notification center to see the whole thing? What notification center settings are ideal for using with VO? I don't have an I Device, so all of this is extremely new to me. There's so much to learn, but on the whole, I'd have to say that I'm about 95 percent happy with Mountain Lion. Thanks in advance for any suggestions you may have, and I hope that everyone is having a great day! Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lisette Wesseling Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 5:41 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Making notification short cut Hi, How are people making the notification short cut? I tried to do this using the voice over keyboard commander but notifications wasn't one of the apps you can choose there. Please can someone describe how they made a short cut to take you straight to the notification centre? Thanks. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Making notification short cut
Great minds think alike! I use ctrl, command N too. It works very well. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rachel Feinberg Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 7:40 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Making notification short cut Go to system preferences, keyboard, and the keyboard shortcuts tab. In the shortcuts categories table, choose mission control. Then vo right arrow to the applications table and choose show notification center. Make sure the box is checked, and you have an edit box to type in whatever shortcut you want. I personally use control+command+N. Rachel On Jul 26, 2012, at 2:41 AM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, How are people making the notification short cut? I tried to do this using the voice over keyboard commander but notifications wasn't one of the apps you can choose there. Please can someone describe how they made a short cut to take you straight to the notification centre? Thanks. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Mountain Lyon and VM users please report in
Wow! What a mess. I'm feeling very lucky now. Boot camp seems to have survived without any issues. I'll double check that windows is still validated, but apart from it claiming I wasn't connected to the internet when everything was working perfectly, there didn't seem to be any issues. Thanks for sharing, though. _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of erik burggraaf Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 9:45 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mountain Lyon and VM users please report in Essentially what happened in the upgrade from SL to Lion was that the bootcamp utility, along with all windows drivers and software were upgraded. According to windows 7, the upgraded machine became a brand new machine which was not authorized to run that instillation of windows. Now, the obvious answer to this is, revalidate. Do this and all is well. If you are self-motivated and organized and you take 5 minutes to do this right away, and microsoft counts your keys properly, you are golden. None of this applied to my client. Close now if you don't want shock value. Read on if you enjoy being appalled and horrified. The client called me out 25 days post upgrade and then hunted for his windows cd for an hour while my metre ran. unfortunately it seems he threw it out by mistake. He then called me out 35 days post upgrade and I was able to retrieve his key from the pooched up windows partition. Of course it was too late to activate. I called microsoft to see if I could get activated. They miscounted his keys and refused to activate, saying he had the instalation on too many machines. Nonsense, it was only ever installed once. So after numerous support calls, several mysterious disconnects, 4 or 5 non-english speaking and completely careless support staff, I finally convinced some one to reset his key. I was then able to activate his windows. I then created him a terabyte image backup of his windows installation to replace the disk he threw out. The cash register rang often that week, but what a pain in the arse. Best, Erik Burggraaf Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service, starting at $0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards. Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2012-07-25, at 4:46 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: OK. Now I'm really confused. You're saying that installing ML is going to mess up bootcamp? I might just copy the ML install file to a USB drive for now until I can get a bit more clerification. What kinds of problems were caused by the upgrade? Missy _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of erik burggraaf Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 4:26 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mountain Lyon and VM users please report in No, that's ligit. Bootcamp is still a product of and intergrated with mac OS. Upgrading from snow leopard to lion wrecked bootcamp and windows, to my client's detriment. I got to bill a bunch of hours out of it, which I would'a ratherred leave on the table. It was a mess. Best, Erik Burggraaf Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service, starting at $0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards. Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/ On 2012-07-25, at 3:05 PM, Chris Gilland wrote: Bootcamp is on a whole seperet partition, so I really doubt it. Chris. On Jul 25, 2012, at 2:42 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Does this affect Bootcamp as well? I don't use VM, but am slightly nervous that something might happen to bootcamp. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Caron Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:28 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Mountain Lyon and VM users please report in Hi listers, Anyone who has upgraded to Mountain Lyon and who had a VM Fusion installation, please let us know if the machine is still working nicely under Mountain Lyon. I'm especially interested in those with a JAWS VM as I had authorization problems in the past. Thanks for any reports. Eric Caron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries
RE: Is Twitter Down?
Hi! I'm having the same problem. I'm thinking it's probably safe to assume it's an issue on twitter's end. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Holmes Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 12:00 PM To: macvisionaries Subject: Is Twitter Down? Sorry for off topic post, but I can't seem to connect to twitter from my iPod nor a windows browser here at work. either they are blocking access to twitter at my office or twitter is down. any ideas? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Mountain Lion repeating information in finder
Hi, all. I couldn't think of a more concise way to sum up the problem for the subject of this message. Actually, this isn't a problem as much as an annoyance. If I'm in a finder window, it seems to be telling me information twice. For example, if I'm scrolling down, it might say something like documents folder followed by the date and whatever else, and then it says folder again. Same for actual files. It says the file name, then what type of document it is, then the date info, and then what type of file it is again. I've looked through verbosity settings, and can't seem to find anything to fix this problem. It could be that my short term memory is even more pitiful than usual, and this is the way it's always read, but I don't think so. I thought the file type info was only read after the date and stuff. For example: documents July 26 12:10 PM folder I don't know if I'm explaining this right, but the bottom line is that file type information is being read twice, and I'd really appreciate it if someone had an idea how that could be fixed. Over all, I'm still loving mountain lion, though. The new features and improved start-up definitely cancel out any minor quirks I've encountered. Missy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Is Twitter Down?
Hmm. Still seems broken here. I'll give it some more time before I try starting the qube again. Glad it's back for you, though. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark BurningHawk Baxter Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 12:26 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Is Twitter Down? Pardon me for the useless one-line mail message, but it's back up her enow. . Mark BurningHawk Baxter . AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 . MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com . My home page: . http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Mountain Lion repeating information in finder
Thanks! I'll try that. I always used list view before, at least I thought I did, but I'll see if switching to column view makes any difference. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 12:49 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mountain Lion repeating information in finder Hi, try changing your view from list to column by pressing command 3. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jul 26, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hi, all. I couldn't think of a more concise way to sum up the problem for the subject of this message. Actually, this isn't a problem as much as an annoyance. If I'm in a finder window, it seems to be telling me information twice. For example, if I'm scrolling down, it might say something like documents folder followed by the date and whatever else, and then it says folder again. Same for actual files. It says the file name, then what type of document it is, then the date info, and then what type of file it is again. I've looked through verbosity settings, and can't seem to find anything to fix this problem. It could be that my short term memory is even more pitiful than usual, and this is the way it's always read, but I don't think so. I thought the file type info was only read after the date and stuff. For example: documents July 26 12:10 PM folder I don't know if I'm explaining this right, but the bottom line is that file type information is being read twice, and I'd really appreciate it if someone had an idea how that could be fixed. Over all, I'm still loving mountain lion, though. The new features and improved start-up definitely cancel out any minor quirks I've encountered. Missy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Mountain Lion repeating information in finder
Hi there! I just tried switching to column view, and that didn't work at all. All it says is a name and then selected. I like list view, and the way it used to read was great. If I have to get used to this new way of it reading things, I will, but unfortunately, column view is not a viable sollution to the problem. Thanks for the suggestion, though. I really appreciate it. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 12:53 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mountain Lion repeating information in finder Ok. Let me know how that works out for you. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jul 26, 2012, at 12:51 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Thanks! I'll try that. I always used list view before, at least I thought I did, but I'll see if switching to column view makes any difference. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 12:49 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mountain Lion repeating information in finder Hi, try changing your view from list to column by pressing command 3. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jul 26, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hi, all. I couldn't think of a more concise way to sum up the problem for the subject of this message. Actually, this isn't a problem as much as an annoyance. If I'm in a finder window, it seems to be telling me information twice. For example, if I'm scrolling down, it might say something like documents folder followed by the date and whatever else, and then it says folder again. Same for actual files. It says the file name, then what type of document it is, then the date info, and then what type of file it is again. I've looked through verbosity settings, and can't seem to find anything to fix this problem. It could be that my short term memory is even more pitiful than usual, and this is the way it's always read, but I don't think so. I thought the file type info was only read after the date and stuff. For example: documents July 26 12:10 PM folder I don't know if I'm explaining this right, but the bottom line is that file type information is being read twice, and I'd really appreciate it if someone had an idea how that could be fixed. Over all, I'm still loving mountain lion, though. The new features and improved start-up definitely cancel out any minor quirks I've encountered. Missy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Mountain Lion is going to be released today, the 25th
I've been counting down to this. Can't decide if I am going to buy it right away or not. My biggest concern is whether or not Mountain Lion would affect my Bootcamp partitian. If it isn't going to break anything on that end, I'm ready to take the plunge and get it right away. I still have my little 80 GB external drive that runs SL; can't afford another drive to back up my current Lion install, and am hesitant to get rid of my SL drive to back up my current settings. There are still a few things I use SL for, most noteably add text to spoken track; I was never able to get that working as expected under Lion. Anyway, if anyone knows whether updating will have any effect on bootcamp, I would really appreciate it. I'm actually quite excited about this update, so I hope I can get it. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Søren Jensen Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:30 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Mountain Lion is going to be released today, the 25th Hi all. This is not a rumour. Just saw this on Twitter from Macrumours. So, get ready for a big big mail storm. :) Have an awesome day. Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Mountain Lyon and VM users please report in
Does this affect Bootcamp as well? I don't use VM, but am slightly nervous that something might happen to bootcamp. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Caron Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:28 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Mountain Lyon and VM users please report in Hi listers, Anyone who has upgraded to Mountain Lyon and who had a VM Fusion installation, please let us know if the machine is still working nicely under Mountain Lyon. I'm especially interested in those with a JAWS VM as I had authorization problems in the past. Thanks for any reports. Eric Caron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Mountain Lyon and VM users please report in
OK. Now I'm really confused. You're saying that installing ML is going to mess up bootcamp? I might just copy the ML install file to a USB drive for now until I can get a bit more clerification. What kinds of problems were caused by the upgrade? Missy _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of erik burggraaf Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 4:26 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mountain Lyon and VM users please report in No, that's ligit. Bootcamp is still a product of and intergrated with mac OS. Upgrading from snow leopard to lion wrecked bootcamp and windows, to my client's detriment. I got to bill a bunch of hours out of it, which I would'a ratherred leave on the table. It was a mess. Best, Erik Burggraaf Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service, starting at $0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards. Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2012-07-25, at 3:05 PM, Chris Gilland wrote: Bootcamp is on a whole seperet partition, so I really doubt it. Chris. On Jul 25, 2012, at 2:42 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Does this affect Bootcamp as well? I don't use VM, but am slightly nervous that something might happen to bootcamp. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Caron Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:28 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Mountain Lyon and VM users please report in Hi listers, Anyone who has upgraded to Mountain Lyon and who had a VM Fusion installation, please let us know if the machine is still working nicely under Mountain Lyon. I'm especially interested in those with a JAWS VM as I had authorization problems in the past. Thanks for any reports. Eric Caron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: possible to download, but not install, 10.8?
Yes, I'm really hoping for more clerification to this. When I first brought up the topic of bootcamp, most responses indicated that there wasn't anything to worry about, and now I'm hearing the opposite. Has anyone out there actually tried running bootcamp after updating to ML, and if so, what happened? Thanks! Missy _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 5:00 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: possible to download, but not install, 10.8? Well, after some other discussion on this list, my main concern is now my bootcamp. I use windows a lot, mostly for gaming and web browsing, and I'd hate to lose that. My data is backed up with Carbonite, but I still would not like to lose access to windows. On 25 Jul 2012, at 16:18, Daniel Miller wrote: Things should go smoothly, so I don't see any reason why you should or would want to wait. Your machine will restart once, wait a few seconds to turn VO back on to monitor progress, and it'll restart when it's finished, and you're good to go. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 3:17 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: possible to download, but not install, 10.8? Cool, no copying required then. Thanks, I'll switch into mac and do this right now! I just hope I can overcome the temptation to go ahead with the rest of the upgrade process... knowing my luck, though, it would be the one time I'd have a serious error, then I'd have to get a whole new computer... but maybe that wouldn't be a bad thing - I'd love a Macbook! On 7/25/12, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, as long as you don't actually install ML, it will remain there until you actually decide to install. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 3:13 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: possible to download, but not install, 10.8? Okay, one final question then. Can I simply quit the installer, and leave it in my applications folder? I'll want to install right from my hard drive, just not for a couple days. Will it be removed or something if I leave it there? On 7/25/12, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Download it like normal, but when the installer opens, you'll need to close it. After you close it, find it in your applications folder and copy it to an external source. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 3:08 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: possible to download, but not install, 10.8? So, would I use the app store for this? If so, how? Could I not simply tell it not to install? Sorry, I'm just a bit confused as to how this would work; I've never tried to not install an app from the app store before. On 7/25/12, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: You can, yes. All you need to do is copy the installer app from your applications folder to another source, such as an external drive or USB key. Be sure that said destination is larger than 4GB, though. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 3:03 PM To: macvisionaries Subject: possible to download, but not install, 10.8? Hi all, I am still here at Perkins School for the Blind as a volunteer, but only until Friday. The internet here is really good, and the internet at home can sometimes be slow or drop out for no reason. So, is there any way I could download the 10.8 file here, but not install it? I'm holding off because I have a mini with no monitor, and I don't want something to go wrong and have no way for anyone to read any error messages that might come up. So, I'd rather download 10.8 here with good internet but no screen, then install it at home with a screen but possibly bad internet. I hope that made sense! -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this
RE: 2 things still not fixed in Mountain Lion.
Also, and I freely admit that compared to your issues this one is petty, but midi playback is still awful under Mountain Lion. I can play midis in VLC, or boot into snow leopard from my external drive to get good playback, but sometimes, I just want to use quick preview, and it's still as poor of quality as it was under lion. I know it's not an important feature, but I'm still slightly bummed out that it was never addressed. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Campbell Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 8:25 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: 2 things still not fixed in Mountain Lion. Hi all. I've found 2 things so far that haven't been fixed in Mountain Lion. 1. Tables in documents. These still appear to not work properly with VoiceOver. VO still announces new line new line when I tried this just now. 2. Web page selection. This still doesn't work. I know that the web page scrolls when I move with the arrow keys, but VoiceOver is still not reporting that the page is scrolling. I think I'll be sending these findings to Apple Accessibility to see what they have to say about these really old issues. Sorry to spoil the good mood of the new OS launch, Matthew Campbell. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: 2 things still not fixed in Mountain Lion.
Over all crappy quality. Basicly, the sound is really compressed and the volume is very, very low. It's 1 of the reasons I keep an install of Snow Leopard on my external drive. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hank Smith Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 8:49 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: 2 things still not fixed in Mountain Lion. how is it different? I don't have lion so don't know what u are talking about is it instruments that are different or over all crappy quality? On 7/25/2012 5:31 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Also, and I freely admit that compared to your issues this one is petty, but midi playback is still awful under Mountain Lion. I can play midis in VLC, or boot into snow leopard from my external drive to get good playback, but sometimes, I just want to use quick preview, and it's still as poor of quality as it was under lion. I know it's not an important feature, but I'm still slightly bummed out that it was never addressed. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Campbell Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 8:25 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: 2 things still not fixed in Mountain Lion. Hi all. I've found 2 things so far that haven't been fixed in Mountain Lion. 1. Tables in documents. These still appear to not work properly with VoiceOver. VO still announces new line new line when I tried this just now. 2. Web page selection. This still doesn't work. I know that the web page scrolls when I move with the arrow keys, but VoiceOver is still not reporting that the page is scrolling. I think I'll be sending these findings to Apple Accessibility to see what they have to say about these really old issues. Sorry to spoil the good mood of the new OS launch, Matthew Campbell. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Mountain Lion Is Awesome!
Hi! Over all, I agree with this post. The only problem I've run into so far is that growl notifications aren't spoken as they were. I'm not sure if there will be a growl update released to fix this, or what the deal is. The notifications I'm mostly interested in getting back are when files are added, deleted or changed in dropbox. Granted, I do most things on my PC, but if I happened to have the mac on as well, it was handy to hear acapella Tracy informing me of dropbox changes. I'm very happy that the Acapella voices are still working. I use Alex for Voiceover stuff, but Tracy is my system voice, and I'm happy that didn't have to change. If anyone could shed some light on the situation with growl, that would be great. Otherwise, I'm pretty satisfied with the update, especially the dictation. Missy _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 9:57 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Mountain Lion Is Awesome! Hey guys. I was thinking of using the Siri dictation feature to write this message, but after trying to send a message to Kimsan and seeing that it entered something that I didn't say, I figured I'd write this myself. So with that being said, I must say that Apple did a freaking awesome job with Mountain Lion. My favorite features so far have been the Siri dictation, even though it hears what it wants to hear sometimes, the ability to update more than one App in the App store, and yes, the ability to use some third party Apps that weren't accessible to us in the past. Now I can use Menuweather, the app that I complained that wasn't accessible a few months ago, and change whatever settings I need. Also, for Infovox Ivox 3 users, your voices will continue to work. You don't need to download any patches or anything. I did notice a couple of bugs though. The first one is something that this list has talked about when Lion first launched, and that is the booting up time. For me, when I came home from work and booted up my machine, I pretty much had to wait for about 2-3 minutes before Voiceover started talking. Also, in both Lion and Snow Leopard, both Adium and Skype launched right away after startup. In Mountain Lion, It takes a minute for both apps to launch. These aren't deal breakers though, just minor hinderances. As for the Nuance voices, I'm not gonna even bother using them with Voiceover if they're still making those stupid pitch changes. Why would I if I have Tracy from Acapela? Anyway, all in all, this is a fantastic upgrade, better than Lion in my opinion. I hope you all have fun with Mountain Lion, as I sure am. Shawn Sent from my white Mac Book -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: 2 things still not fixed in Mountain Lion.
Wow! You certainly made a lot more progress researching this than I ever did. For now, booting into snowy kitty or using VLC works OK. It's just the whole principle of why did they have to go and break it in the first place. Anyway, if you can find whatever it is that needs downloading to fix it, please let me know. For now, though, I'm not going to worry about it too much. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:40 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: 2 things still not fixed in Mountain Lion. You know what, just to see if it works on my end, I'm gonna fire up a midi, not in ProTools, but in just the standard Quicklook and see how it sounds over here, as you now got me intreigued. Huhho! Wow! I see what you mean. It's very good as far as the sound, but, the volume is atrocious! It is quite quiet. Let me see if I can figure out a way to turn it up. OK, well, after googling I found the problem. I don't know how to fix it though, but it's at least a start for us. Apparently, something in 10.7 and above with the midi Synfire gm midi synth broke. This means all instrument patches are way quieter than normal. The web site I went to suggested that you update to HN2 2.5.0 or higher to fix the problem, but I have yet been able to find a donwload link anywhere to do this. Don't ask me what HN2 2.5.0 is/does? I have no clue aside fixing the problem. You now basically know what I know. Chris. - Original Message - From: Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 8:31 PM Subject: RE: 2 things still not fixed in Mountain Lion. Also, and I freely admit that compared to your issues this one is petty, but midi playback is still awful under Mountain Lion. I can play midis in VLC, or boot into snow leopard from my external drive to get good playback, but sometimes, I just want to use quick preview, and it's still as poor of quality as it was under lion. I know it's not an important feature, but I'm still slightly bummed out that it was never addressed. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Campbell Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 8:25 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: 2 things still not fixed in Mountain Lion. Hi all. I've found 2 things so far that haven't been fixed in Mountain Lion. 1. Tables in documents. These still appear to not work properly with VoiceOver. VO still announces new line new line when I tried this just now. 2. Web page selection. This still doesn't work. I know that the web page scrolls when I move with the arrow keys, but VoiceOver is still not reporting that the page is scrolling. I think I'll be sending these findings to Apple Accessibility to see what they have to say about these really old issues. Sorry to spoil the good mood of the new OS launch, Matthew Campbell. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: start up times with ML?
I have to agree. Startup time under ML is a bit on the slow side, especially when compared to snow leopard, but, on the plus side, Voiceover starts as expected. At least on my system, that couldn't be said for lion. So, it's worth the slower startup to have VO behave as expected. I'd be interested to find if there are any apps I could remove from startup, but I can't remember how to access that area, and on the whole, I'd rather leave it alone if its working. _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 11:01 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: start up times with ML? SL definitely bootted quite faster than Lion, let alone Mountain Lion. I think this question's quite subjective, as it really depends on a lot of things, as you said, hd rpm speed, solid state or not, how the startup disk is connected, SATA, vs. ATA, USB, Firewire, Thunderbolt, etc. You're processor also can play a factor, as an I5 is gonna be logically faster than say, an I4. Also how full is the drive, and what login items do you have running at startup and what daemons/services are running at startup. So, it's really difficult as you see to give an exact average boot up time, but I'd say, for me at least, it's around a minute and a half, maybe 2 minutes pushing it, soaken wet. Chris. - Original Message - From: Ray Foret Jr mailto:rfore...@att.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 9:16 PM Subject: start up times with ML? Okay. Here's the thing. When I was running SL, my Mac was fully started in just about 30 seconds. Now, under Lion, it isn't fully started up until about a minute and 30 seconds. Given this, what kinds of start up times can I expect with ML on my Mac? My unit is a 15 inch Mac book pro dating back to November 2009, 4Gb RAM, 500 GB 72000 RPM 500 drive. Thanks. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Mountain Lion Is Awesome!
LOL! I've heard a sample of that voice too. I don't have the cepstral voices because on the whole, I don't like them very much, but you can get the acapella voices from assistiveware.com. I'm sorry I can't help with Cepstral. I have a couple of their voices for windows, but they're not good enough to buy for the mac, if that makes sense. I'd love that southern voice for windows, though. I could have some fun with it. Good luck tracking down demos of the acapella voices, and I hope that you're having a great day! Missy _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 11:38 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mountain Lion Is Awesome! Missy, is there anywhere I can get a trial of the Accappella voices like Tracey, etc? What I really would like to get is the Cepstral Dalas voice for the mac. Gawod! is he hillarious! I bought 'em a while back, but even with the swift thing installed, I couldn't for the life a me figure out how to get it unlocked and working. I finally just stashed the thing on a rom, and said to hell with it, I'll figure it out later, corse stupid me, never did, ha ha ha. LOL! Seriously, if you want a real cowboy sounding southern draw voice, God almighty! is he funny! I so! wish I could show you all a sample. I busted! a gut! when I first heard it, and didn't stop cracking up with tears rolling down my cheaks for about 10 minutes straight. Chris. - Original Message - From: Missy mailto:mitmee@gmail.com Hoppe To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 11:03 PM Subject: RE: Mountain Lion Is Awesome! Hi! Over all, I agree with this post. The only problem I've run into so far is that growl notifications aren't spoken as they were. I'm not sure if there will be a growl update released to fix this, or what the deal is. The notifications I'm mostly interested in getting back are when files are added, deleted or changed in dropbox. Granted, I do most things on my PC, but if I happened to have the mac on as well, it was handy to hear acapella Tracy informing me of dropbox changes. I'm very happy that the Acapella voices are still working. I use Alex for Voiceover stuff, but Tracy is my system voice, and I'm happy that didn't have to change. If anyone could shed some light on the situation with growl, that would be great. Otherwise, I'm pretty satisfied with the update, especially the dictation. Missy _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 9:57 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Mountain Lion Is Awesome! Hey guys. I was thinking of using the Siri dictation feature to write this message, but after trying to send a message to Kimsan and seeing that it entered something that I didn't say, I figured I'd write this myself. So with that being said, I must say that Apple did a freaking awesome job with Mountain Lion. My favorite features so far have been the Siri dictation, even though it hears what it wants to hear sometimes, the ability to update more than one App in the App store, and yes, the ability to use some third party Apps that weren't accessible to us in the past. Now I can use Menuweather, the app that I complained that wasn't accessible a few months ago, and change whatever settings I need. Also, for Infovox Ivox 3 users, your voices will continue to work. You don't need to download any patches or anything. I did notice a couple of bugs though. The first one is something that this list has talked about when Lion first launched, and that is the booting up time. For me, when I came home from work and booted up my machine, I pretty much had to wait for about 2-3 minutes before Voiceover started talking. Also, in both Lion and Snow Leopard, both Adium and Skype launched right away after startup. In Mountain Lion, It takes a minute for both apps to launch. These aren't deal breakers though, just minor hinderances. As for the Nuance voices, I'm not gonna even bother using them with Voiceover if they're still making those stupid pitch changes. Why would I if I have Tracy from Acapela? Anyway, all in all, this is a fantastic upgrade, better than Lion in my opinion. I hope you all have fun with Mountain Lion, as I sure am. Shawn Sent from my white Mac Book -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to
RE: start up times with ML?
Honestly, I see no need to mess with the stuff that runs at startup. As the saying goes, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. This last time I started up, it was noticeably faster, so it could be that it's all settled in now and ready to work. I've still got a few things I need to figure out, mostly the notifications center, but I'll worry about that another day. For now, I'm just happy that everything is working as well as it is. _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 11:41 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: start up times with ML? Missie, Just go into system prefs, then go to user accounts, and then to the login items tab. Be careful though. Don't remove anything if you're in doubt what it is or does. Chris. - Original Message - From: Missy mailto:mitmee@gmail.com Hoppe To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 11:10 PM Subject: RE: start up times with ML? I have to agree. Startup time under ML is a bit on the slow side, especially when compared to snow leopard, but, on the plus side, Voiceover starts as expected. At least on my system, that couldn't be said for lion. So, it's worth the slower startup to have VO behave as expected. I'd be interested to find if there are any apps I could remove from startup, but I can't remember how to access that area, and on the whole, I'd rather leave it alone if its working. _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 11:01 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: start up times with ML? SL definitely bootted quite faster than Lion, let alone Mountain Lion. I think this question's quite subjective, as it really depends on a lot of things, as you said, hd rpm speed, solid state or not, how the startup disk is connected, SATA, vs. ATA, USB, Firewire, Thunderbolt, etc. You're processor also can play a factor, as an I5 is gonna be logically faster than say, an I4. Also how full is the drive, and what login items do you have running at startup and what daemons/services are running at startup. So, it's really difficult as you see to give an exact average boot up time, but I'd say, for me at least, it's around a minute and a half, maybe 2 minutes pushing it, soaken wet. Chris. - Original Message - From: Ray Foret Jr mailto:rfore...@att.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 9:16 PM Subject: start up times with ML? Okay. Here's the thing. When I was running SL, my Mac was fully started in just about 30 seconds. Now, under Lion, it isn't fully started up until about a minute and 30 seconds. Given this, what kinds of start up times can I expect with ML on my Mac? My unit is a 15 inch Mac book pro dating back to November 2009, 4Gb RAM, 500 GB 72000 RPM 500 drive. Thanks. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Mountain Lion is going to be released today, the 25th
Same here. Before I actually installed Mountain Lion, I called Apple, and they told me that there probably wouldn't be any issues. Sure enough, bootcamp started up just fine, and even my jaws authorization was still in tact. The only weirdness was that it claimed I had no internet connection, but when I ran my mud client and internet explorer, both seemed to work normally. So, I don't know why the system tray was lying to me, or if there really is some kind of problem, but whatever is happening, assuming anything is, it's so minor that I'm not inclined to worry about it. I'm just thrilled that windows started as expected and that jaws was still functional. Thanks for your response, though. It is extremely appreciated. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kristyn Leigh Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 11:55 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mountain Lion is going to be released today, the 25th I can still boot into Windows 7 on my Mac after installing Mountain Lion. Boot Camp updated from version 4 to 5. I have not run Windows programs to do a thorough check for problems, but no major disasters so far. Kristyn On Jul 25, 2012, at 3:33 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: I've been counting down to this. Can't decide if I am going to buy it right away or not. My biggest concern is whether or not Mountain Lion would affect my Bootcamp partitian. If it isn't going to break anything on that end, I'm ready to take the plunge and get it right away. I still have my little 80 GB external drive that runs SL; can't afford another drive to back up my current Lion install, and am hesitant to get rid of my SL drive to back up my current settings. There are still a few things I use SL for, most noteably add text to spoken track; I was never able to get that working as expected under Lion. Anyway, if anyone knows whether updating will have any effect on bootcamp, I would really appreciate it. I'm actually quite excited about this update, so I hope I can get it. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Søren Jensen Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:30 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Mountain Lion is going to be released today, the 25th Hi all. This is not a rumour. Just saw this on Twitter from Macrumours. So, get ready for a big big mail storm. :) Have an awesome day. Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kristyn Leigh Sent from my mini Mac krist...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Mountain Lion Is Awesome!
Hi! How does 1 create a keyboard shortcut for notification center. I went into keyboard, but didn't find it anywhere to add. Thanks in advance for any instructions you may be able to provide. _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 12:04 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mountain Lion Is Awesome! Hi Mike. I believe you have to create your own keystroke for notification center. And while we're on the subject of keystrokes, I've noticed while in a dialog, if you want to click on a button, you have to press VO+space twice for some reason before Voiceover clicks it. Has anyone else experienced this? Shawn Sent from my white Mac Book -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: what Voiceover bugs people want or are hoping will be fixed or squashed in Mountain Lion?
Ah yes! If the loquendo voices were available for the mac, that would be very cool. They're supposedly available for the pc, but are so expensive that acquiring them just isn't an option. I love how expressive those voices are, though. _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Maria Chapman Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 2:05 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: what Voiceover bugs people want or are hoping will be fixed or squashed in Mountain Lion? Hi. i kind of agree with you. lol Maria Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong. - Mahatma Gandhi On 04/07/2012, at 1:33 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Boo Eloquence! If I wanted to listen to that stupid robotic voice drone on and on, I'd switch back to PC and install Jaws or Window-Eyes. But I don't want to do that because I'm a Mac user, and I like listening to human-sounding voices. If I had to pick voices to be added to the Mac, I'd pick the Loquendo voices just because they do good inflections with exclamations. And sorry, but I don't think Ivona will ever come to Apple because I'm sure they don't want to follow Apple's speech API. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: what Voiceover bugs people want or are hoping will be fixed or squashed in Mountain Lion?
I just read that too! How awesome would that be if we can easly get our hands on loquendo voices! _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 11:12 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: what Voiceover bugs people want or are hoping will be fixed or squashed in Mountain Lion? The Loquendo voices last I heard were recently acquired by Nuance, so we should have a choice, either Realspeak or Loquendo. Shawn On 2012-07-06, at 7:10 AM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: what Voiceover bugs people want or are hoping will be fixed or squashed in Mountain Lion?
While I agree 100 percent that Eloquence is the only speech that is efficient enough to actually get things done with, I've never been particularly fond of it. Not sure that makes sense given that I've used Glen more or less exclusively for the past 12 years or so, but on the whole, I think Eloquence is seriously over-rated. True, it's the only thing I use on the PC side, but that's out of necessity, not because I find it pleasant or anything. I don't use the RealSpeak voices on the mac either, though. I even bought the acapella voices, but still find myself only using Alex as a general rule. So, while I can see both sides of the coin on the eloquence thing, it's nothing I'd get all excited about if Apple ever incorporated it. In most cases, Alex is responsive enough for my needs on the mac. I'd love to see a female equivelent of Alex, though. Alice, perhaps? It's just that when it comes to those higher quality voices, I find the female ones slightly easier to understand in most cases. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel McGee Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 9:39 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: what Voiceover bugs people want or are hoping will be fixed or squashed in Mountain Lion? eloquence 100% is for me. If I had this, then I wouldn't be using windows anymore there's something about the voice that I can listen to it and I don't get tired of it. I have a hearing impairment and find it is more clear understandable in words than these silly nuance voices. I don't want that to be offending to anyone who uses the nuance real speak voices but for me, I just don't understand them clearly, to slow no matter how much I speed them up I can't understand them when they are really fast anyway and lastly too slow even when I can follow them. Ohand caps lock gets my vote too. If the day comes where Apple have eloquence added to the list of VO voices, will be the day where I differently upgrade my OS! How do others feel about eloquence being added? You got me started on this one! LOL Daniel On 3 Jul 2012, at 12:47, Chris Moore wrote: I guess that makes sense. I suppose that is the charm of VO, it can be used in so many different ways. If I am using my iMac, then I tend to use the numeric keypad., and if I am using my iOS devices I use quick nav via a bluetooth keyboard, and when using my Macbook I use the track pad. Caps lock gets my vote too then if anyone at Apple is listening. HOw about built in OCR anyone? or would anyone like to see eloquence added to the voice list too? Chris On 3 Jul 2012, at 12:18, Garth Humphreys wrote: I prefer not to have to take my fingers off the home keys. It is not so much with the arrow keys that I would want to use the caps lock key but with the other vo commands. I can't help think that the caps lock key is a complete waste of prime keyboard real-estate, if you know what I mean. It is much more efficient to my way of thinking to just move your little finger to the caps lock key as compared to either removing your left or right hand from it's home keys to press the current VO modifiers. Garth iblindtech.com On 03/07/2012, at 8:39 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Well with any luck Apple may head in this direction, as they appear to have got the message with iOS 6 that zoom and voice over at the same time would be beneficial. If it was improved and there were better contrast colour schemes, I may consider using it myself. I sometimes fire up ZoomText on my work PC when using JAWS to sometimes find that button within a web page that JAWS can't see or a dialog window that JAWS refuses to read. So where would you see using the caps lock over using quick nav? Thanks Chris On 3 Jul 2012, at 10:31, Garth Humphreys wrote: There are a few bugs when zoomed to high levels, i.e., more than 14X or so. If you have VO running and zoom set to follow the keyboard focus you will find that the command tab to switch between apps becomes unreliable and navigating the menu bar with the arrow keys is also unreliable. Also I don't like the way it tracks and works with reading text. I'd like better colour options and keyboard commands to adjust them, or at least for the invert brightness keyboard command not to conflict with a Voice Over command. You would think that Apple would be able to sort out keyboard command conflicts between two of their own accessibility utilities. I am sure there are work arounds for some of these but a work around isn't the same as fixing the problem. For example the menu navigation issue I mentioned does not occur if you use swipes on the trackpad with trackpad commander to navigate the menu. It only happens with the arrow keys - strange but there you are. If I used it regularly I would probably come across more of the issues. It really doesn't seem to me that apple intended the two utilities to work
RE: what Voiceover bugs people want or are hoping will be fixed or squashed in Mountain Lion?
Same here. Both Vicky and Victoria sound too robotic for me; more like Fred than Alex. Vicky doesn't have nearly the realism as Alex, so I can't imagine that she's meant to be his female counterpart. Oh well. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Honestly, I don't understand all the fuss about the Nuance voices. Over all, I don't like any of them, with the possible exceptions of Karen and Lee, and I really wish that Apple would have just created their own voices or gone with a different tts provider. In all honesty, 1 of the many reasons I'm still not the proud owner of an I device is that I can't stand the Samantha voice. If there was a way to use almost any other kind of voice by default on an Iphone, I'd try to save up for 1 in a heartbeat. I understand that mobile Alex isn't an option, but honestly! Why couldn't Apple have used the Acapella voices instead, or the Ivona voices; they're very good too. OK. End of rant. LOL! -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 11:57 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: what Voiceover bugs people want or are hoping will be fixed or squashed in Mountain Lion? I thought Victoria was prior voice to Alex? Personally I quite like Alex, and can't stand Fred. He sounds rather creepy and too robotic. I guess it depends on what you are used to and how long you have been using TTS. On 3 Jul 2012, at 16:21, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello, Vicky is supposed to be the female equivalent of Alex. Personally, I can't stand either of them. I've been using Fred for years because he's clear and quite neutral. On 3 Jul 2012, at 16:05, Daniel Miller wrote: Hi, While I agree a female equivalent to Alex would be a necessary addition, I just don't see apple ever incorporating Eloquence or the Dectalk voices, for that matter. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: what Voiceover bugs people want or are hoping will be fixed or squashed in Mountain Lion?
Ah! That would be sweet: Alex reading the OSX install. I'd almost rather see Apple get rid of Fred, Vicky and Victoria altogether since there are so many better options out there. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 12:12 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: what Voiceover bugs people want or are hoping will be fixed or squashed in Mountain Lion? Ugh, I hate Vicky and Victoria. I hate Fred too. I wish they'd use Alex for the OS X installer. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 10:57 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: what Voiceover bugs people want or are hoping will be fixed or squashed in Mountain Lion? I thought Victoria was prior voice to Alex? Personally I quite like Alex, and can't stand Fred. He sounds rather creepy and too robotic. I guess it depends on what you are used to and how long you have been using TTS. On 3 Jul 2012, at 16:21, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello, Vicky is supposed to be the female equivalent of Alex. Personally, I can't stand either of them. I've been using Fred for years because he's clear and quite neutral. On 3 Jul 2012, at 16:05, Daniel Miller wrote: Hi, While I agree a female equivalent to Alex would be a necessary addition, I just don't see apple ever incorporating Eloquence or the Dectalk voices, for that matter. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: what Voiceover bugs people want or are hoping will be fixed or squashed in Mountain Lion?
Hi there! All I'm hoping they fix is startup. For me, it's still hit or miss, and VO never starts up on the desktop as it did under Snow Leopard. In the beginning, this was that hateful com.doc.apple.extra thing, and now, it's TM launch agent and a virety of other things. True, pressing command tab isn't a huge deal, but it's the principle of the thing, and sometimes, I wait for 5 minutes or so, and VO still hasn't started. Usually, pressing command tab fixes that too, but it just seems like an unnecessary step, so I'm really hoping that they finally get that sorted out in mountain lion. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel McGee Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 2:16 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: what Voiceover bugs people want or are hoping will be fixed or squashed in Mountain Lion? Hi all, a while ago on this list I saw someone mention that they would like so and so bug to be fixed in Mountain Lion. I would just really like to start a discussion on if there are not many enhancements to Voiceover in the next OS, then what bugs would you like fixed and hope Apple has done there job with it. I'll go 1st. For me its safari. two things for me. 1. Now and then when I go back a page with CMD left bracket Voiceover doesn't announce my list of headings or links that I have set in VO utility. 2. continuing this previous page thing, because I don't always know when the page is fully loaded when going back, I get the lovely Voiceover Busy! Not! This is using Lion V7.4 and Safari 5.1.7 So what are yours? I hope this will become an interesting topic because I'm interested to see what people can come up with and I'm sure there will be some good ones! So everyone, the dance floor is yours! LOL Daniel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: good old good old question, MBP or MBA
Well, my personal opinion is to go for the Macbook Pro. To me, it's just a more solid machine. I've had 1 for just about a year now, and it's really growing on me. I looked at a macbook air at the Apple store, and just didn't like the feel of it. If you're worried about speed, I understand that you could put an SSD into a macbook pro, but so far, I haven't found a genuine need to do that. I guess it depends on what you're planning to do. Also, I think the macbook Pro has slightly better sound, just based on my memories of looking at the air at the store, I was not impressed by its sound quality. I also like my pro because it still has the CD/DVD drive as well as an sd card slot. I just think that for the money, the pro is the best machine out there, but I'm sure others will provide opinions as well. Good luck with your purchase, and I hope this helps you a little. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joanne Chua Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 8:05 PM To: macvisionaries; macvoiceover Subject: good old good old question, MBP or MBA Hi all, I guess by now some of you may have feel totally frustrated with me, as i bringing this out every so often... I'm about to get a mac laptop, in the next few days. But i'm torn between MBP 13inch and MBA. my question is, what Mac will be the best? Either the MBP13inch, MBA13inch with 128GB, or MBA11Inch 128GB? I know the spects for all these three are very similar, and i also know that MBA will operate somewhat faster in live time compare to MBP, more portable, etc. I also know that mbp is great for post processing, and heavy duty usage such as vedeo edditing etc etc. As this will be the very first Mac notebook that i own, and coming from the windows screen reader for laptop background, i'm interested to know, if voiceover will slow any of the mbp or mba down from the specs performance? As my windows brain kick in, sort of telling me that the greater processer, memory, will be better as far as screen reader is concern. i'll mainly using it for studying e.g. research, browsing, word processer etc purposes, however, i also uses it for audio edditing, and basic photo edditing as well. The size of the storage doesn't really effect me as much, however, who would say no to a bigger size harddrive? The optical drive also not the priority, as i have a 4 year old IMac sitting at home as my desttop. All of your advice is very much appreciated. Thanks Joanne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: very suspicious Skype call yesterday
Even better, if you don't recognize the caller, don't answer the call at all. I have things set up where only my contacts can call me anyway, and I only run skype very rarely; just started making use of it to call my grandparents because it's cheaper than using my landline, but if I ever got a call and didn't recognize who was calling, I'd just reject the call. I guess the warning is good, though, for folks who are serious skype users, but as with so many things, a bit of common sense would completely eliminate the problem. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:21 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: very suspicious Skype call yesterday Thanks Ray and all. I would treat the call like any cell phone. Just hang up the moment it is jubious. On 12/06/2012 12:55, Ray Foret Jr wrote: I just wanted to alert y'all all to a very suspicious Skype call I received yesterday while listening to the WWDC event. I got a Skype call from someone or something that had the following. 1. Upon ansewring the call, the US English Mike from ATT voice came on and said that my computer's performance and speed were now less than average. At the very beginning of the call, it gave some kind of ID number. The voice then switched over to the Neo speech Paul voice where it advised to go to: www.fixfg.com to scan and repair my computer. Folks, I suspect that something nasty tried to infect me by trying to pursuade me to go to a web sight that had something rather unsavery on it. I did not go there nor did I google it. I have never received such a call before and I think something very unpleasant may be floating around on Skype. Be ware. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: the apple video for yesterday
I'd like a direct link too, if one exists. I followed the link someone provided earlier, and it just took me in circles. _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of matthew Dyer Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 12:46 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: the apple video for yesterday What is the url for this vidio? Thanks. matthew Dyer Sent from my mac mini. e-mail/msn: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com Skype: graduater 2004 Follow me on twitter at mdyer1. Facebook: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com Find me on zello at graduater2004. On Jun 12, 2012, at 8:00 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: The above video will not play on my I phone from the Apple website. I just finished listening to the passport intergration re star bucks and movie and it stopped. Any one else have this problem? I am running the I phone 4S which is up-to-date. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: the apple video for yesterday
Ah! If an audio version is possible, that would be fantastic. If you are able to do that and could post a link for downloading it, I'd really appreciate it a lot! _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jane Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 1:09 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: the apple video for yesterday I can also quickly turn the video into audio, if you like. I just grabbed it. Jane On Jun 12, 2012, at 1:03 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: Hi. It's up on the Apple keynote podcast feed. You can grab it from iTunes. On 2012-06-12, at 12:49 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: I'd like a direct link too, if one exists. I followed the link someone provided earlier, and it just took me in circles. _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of matthew Dyer Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 12:46 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: the apple video for yesterday What is the url for this vidio? Thanks. matthew Dyer Sent from my mac mini. e-mail/msn: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com Skype: graduater 2004 Follow me on twitter at mdyer1. Facebook: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com Find me on zello at graduater2004. On Jun 12, 2012, at 8:00 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: The above video will not play on my I phone from the Apple website. I just finished listening to the passport intergration re star bucks and movie and it stopped. Any one else have this problem? I am running the I phone 4S which is up-to-date. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Today's Maccessibility Live Stream
Thanks for this! I really wanted to hear what was covered this year, especially sinc I think I'm almost ready to take the plunge and get an I device, but had no clue how I was going to find the audio to listen to. I'll definitely be tuned in, even if I don't participate much. I've told myself that finances permitting, I will be getting an Iphone when the next model comes out, especially if it will be possible to use it on my existing service provider. Thanks again, and I can't wait to hear what all is discussed! Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Darcy Burnard Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 11:31 AM To: ViPhone; Mac Visionaries Subject: Today's Maccessibility Live Stream Hi everyone. Just a reminder that we'll be doing a Live Stream this afternoon covering the Apple WWDC keynote. The keynote starts at 1 PM eastern, and we should be starting our stream at around 12:30 PM. If you would like to listen, you can point your media player to http://darcy.serverroom.us:8576/listen.pls?sid=1 If you'd like to interact with the show, there are two ways for you to do that. The best way is to use the #VoLive hash tag on twitter. However, if you don't use twitter, you can send an email to s...@screenlessswitchers.com. If you email, you'll need to put what you want to say in the subject line only. This is because I won't actually be opening the messages, I'll be using boxcar on my iPhone to get notifications of them, and all I see there are the subject lines. Darcy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: VMWare Fusion questions
That's 1 of the other reasons I got rid of VM ware; using it was going to require another jaws authorization, and to me, it just wasn't worth it. Also, and again, this could be something indicating that my VM wasn't set up properly, the jaws key I did try to use on the VM kept deactivating; have never had a second's trouble with my bootcamp setup. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brent Harding Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 10:47 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion questions Oh, cool! I have my mac already set up with boot camp. Would I likely have activation issues with JFW going back and forth between these 2 methods? Would I have to take up 2 keys, or is Fusion smart enough to deal with it? - Original Message - From: Matthew Campbell wrestling.ch...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 4:44 PM Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion questions Hi. A couple of things to keep in mind. 1. If you do go the boot cam route, you will need sighted assistance to get windows installed. Also, you'll be able to have Fusion treat the bootcamp partition as a virtual machine. This has some advantages such as being able to utilized all of the Mac's resources when you need to do something that needs a lot of them but still able to boot in to windows quickly through fusion when you don't need to do something system intensive. 2. The quick install option in fusion will have fusion install windows without sighted assistance. The only thing you need do after installation is install you're screen reader of choice. HTH, On 2012-06-03, at 5:26 PM, Allison Mervis wrote: Thanks Matt. Right now I'm still unsure as to whether or not I'll set up a virtual machine or do a bootcamp install, but this info was very helpful. Allison -- From: Matthew Campbell wrestling.ch...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 1:11 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion questions Hi. Once you shut down the VM, you're Mac will indeed have all of it's resources once again. HTH, On 2012-06-03, at 3:51 PM, Allison Mervis wrote: Hi everyone. I have a copy of Windows 7 floating around here, and I was thinking about playing with VMWare fusion. I have a few questions before I get started though. I understand that when you're setting up the virtual machine, you allocate a certain portion of your system resources in order to run it. Let's say, for example that I allocate four of my eight gigs of ram and 250 of my 750 gigs of hard drive space for the virtual machine. When I shut down the virtual machine, will those resources be returned to my mac? That is to say, will I once again have all 8 gigs of ram and 750 gigs of hard drive space available for use on my mac? I apologize if this sounds basic. Thanks. Allison -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
RE: VMWare Fusion questions
Hi! I'm by no means an expert, but thought I'd share my two cents worth on this topic. I had a friend set up bootcamp and vm fusion for me. VM fusion ended up being too sluggish to use, and I found that bootcamp meets my needs much better. I know a lot of people like the virtual machine, and I suppose there's a chance that my friend set it up incorrectly, but my humble opinion is that bootcamp is a much better option over all. Granted, it requires sighted assistance to set up, but since I wouldn't have known what I was doing setting up a VM, I would have required sighted assistance no matter which option I went with. Good luck, no matter what you choose, and I hope that this ends up helping a little. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Allison Mervis Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 5:26 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion questions Thanks Matt. Right now I'm still unsure as to whether or not I'll set up a virtual machine or do a bootcamp install, but this info was very helpful. Allison -- From: Matthew Campbell wrestling.ch...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 1:11 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion questions Hi. Once you shut down the VM, you're Mac will indeed have all of it's resources once again. HTH, On 2012-06-03, at 3:51 PM, Allison Mervis wrote: Hi everyone. I have a copy of Windows 7 floating around here, and I was thinking about playing with VMWare fusion. I have a few questions before I get started though. I understand that when you're setting up the virtual machine, you allocate a certain portion of your system resources in order to run it. Let's say, for example that I allocate four of my eight gigs of ram and 250 of my 750 gigs of hard drive space for the virtual machine. When I shut down the virtual machine, will those resources be returned to my mac? That is to say, will I once again have all 8 gigs of ram and 750 gigs of hard drive space available for use on my mac? I apologize if this sounds basic. Thanks. Allison -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: playing Malinche games?
Hi! I've never heard of this game. Does this mean there are text-based games that actually work with VoiceOver? Would love it if the old infocom games worked on the mac using VO, but understand that this is probably too much to hope for. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 11:26 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: playing Malinche games? Hi Ricardo, This is new info for me. Can you give me more information? Under the Shortcuts Tab, there are several subcategories, which one do I want? Also, I'm seeing options for shortcuts, but no assigned keys. How do I view the key(s) that are assigned to a given shortcut? Thanks, Donna On Jun 1, 2012, at 10:58 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, You might want to check system prefs/keyboard and under the shortcut tab, check to see if the shortcut command option 8 is enabled to toggle zoom. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jun 1, 2012, at 8:00 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi all, Since the upgrade to Lion, Zoom no longer seems to work. Does anyone know if there is a way to play Malinche--or other text-based games either on the Mac or on an IOS device? Thanks, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: playing Malinche games?
Where does one get this zoom thing. Would love to find out more! Playing text based games on the mac would be so awesome! Thanks! Also, how much does it cost? I'm not in good shape financially, but would definitely save up for something like this if it isn't free. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 12:05 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: playing Malinche games? Hey Holly, Got the new version of Zoom. Am now having trouble downloading the game file, but I'm working on it. Thanks! Donna On Jun 1, 2012, at 11:52 AM, Holly Anderson wrote: Hi, I believe there is a new version of zoom. Try going to their website and downloading the latest version. I don't know this for sure, but it's worth a try. Holly On Jun 1, 2012, at 10:32 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi Missy, They worked up until Lion. I'm grying to figure out if they still do. Will let you know. Best, Donna On Jun 1, 2012, at 11:28 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Hi! I've never heard of this game. Does this mean there are text-based games that actually work with VoiceOver? Would love it if the old infocom games worked on the mac using VO, but understand that this is probably too much to hope for. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 11:26 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: playing Malinche games? Hi Ricardo, This is new info for me. Can you give me more information? Under the Shortcuts Tab, there are several subcategories, which one do I want? Also, I'm seeing options for shortcuts, but no assigned keys. How do I view the key(s) that are assigned to a given shortcut? Thanks, Donna On Jun 1, 2012, at 10:58 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, You might want to check system prefs/keyboard and under the shortcut tab, check to see if the shortcut command option 8 is enabled to toggle zoom. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jun 1, 2012, at 8:00 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi all, Since the upgrade to Lion, Zoom no longer seems to work. Does anyone know if there is a way to play Malinche--or other text-based games either on the Mac or on an IOS device? Thanks, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en
RE: playing Malinche games?
Thank you very much! This is extremely cool! I don't have an IDevice yet, but I do have winfrotz. Never liked it much, so am hoping zoom will work better. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 12:30 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: playing Malinche games? Hi Missy, go to http://www.malinche.net. First you have to download Zoom--the interpreter--and then you can download the games. I think the full games are around $25, but there are several free demos you can try. Looks like you can also download Frotz, an interpreter for your iPhone or iPad, so you can play the games on iDevices, too. Cheers, Donna On Jun 1, 2012, at 12:20 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Where does one get this zoom thing. Would love to find out more! Playing text based games on the mac would be so awesome! Thanks! Also, how much does it cost? I'm not in good shape financially, but would definitely save up for something like this if it isn't free. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 12:05 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: playing Malinche games? Hey Holly, Got the new version of Zoom. Am now having trouble downloading the game file, but I'm working on it. Thanks! Donna On Jun 1, 2012, at 11:52 AM, Holly Anderson wrote: Hi, I believe there is a new version of zoom. Try going to their website and downloading the latest version. I don't know this for sure, but it's worth a try. Holly On Jun 1, 2012, at 10:32 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi Missy, They worked up until Lion. I'm grying to figure out if they still do. Will let you know. Best, Donna On Jun 1, 2012, at 11:28 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Hi! I've never heard of this game. Does this mean there are text-based games that actually work with VoiceOver? Would love it if the old infocom games worked on the mac using VO, but understand that this is probably too much to hope for. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 11:26 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: playing Malinche games? Hi Ricardo, This is new info for me. Can you give me more information? Under the Shortcuts Tab, there are several subcategories, which one do I want? Also, I'm seeing options for shortcuts, but no assigned keys. How do I view the key(s) that are assigned to a given shortcut? Thanks, Donna On Jun 1, 2012, at 10:58 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, You might want to check system prefs/keyboard and under the shortcut tab, check to see if the shortcut command option 8 is enabled to toggle zoom. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jun 1, 2012, at 8:00 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi all, Since the upgrade to Lion, Zoom no longer seems to work. Does anyone know if there is a way to play Malinche--or other text-based games either on the Mac or on an IOS device? Thanks, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr
RE: I'm loving this Airport Extreme Already!!!!
Hello, all! I have what is probably a very stupid question, but my understanding of these things is extremely limited. I've tried reading product reviews, but none of them answer my question. So, here it goes. Can this airport extreme thingy be used as a modem as well, or is it just a router? It sounds nice, but I'm over all satisfied with the dsl modem/router combo I have. I'm just interested in finding out more about this airport extreme because it sounds so reliable, and even better than that, accessible. If it can't be used as a modem, though, I'll probably just stick with what I have; you know what they say: if it ain't broke, don't fix it. LOL! Anyway, any information you guys could provide would be extremely appreciated. Missy _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Traci Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:49 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I'm loving this Airport Extreme Already :) sorry Frank, I don't know anything about that. I just tried to google port forwarding, what is it? Traci Sent by Macbook Air Mail On May 16, 2012, at 2:32 AM, Frank Ventura wrote: How difficult is it to do port forwarding with an Airport router? From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of Traci Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 4:44 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I'm loving this Airport Extreme Already I've had ours for 6 weeks or so, and I love it as well. Set up was easy. I wasn't sure about the connections on the rear of the unit, so I called an Apple store and asked if they'd look at one and tell me which was the ethernet port. We have a printer connected wirelessly. My plan is to connect an external hard drive to that USB port. I also like the airport utility. It is nice to be able to read the status of the unit. Traci Sent by Macbook Air Mail On May 14, 2012, at 8:24 AM, Kliphton wrote: That's the fifth gen right? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 5:00 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I'm loving this Airport Extreme Already It was $180. Setup was mostly easy, it was fully accessible, and I think our network is running faster than it did with the DLink, even when the DLink worked. It also has a USB port, so you can connect a printer to it and then access it on the network. I haven't set that up yet, so can't say much about how well that works. Cheers, Donna On May 13, 2012, at 11:35 PM, Kliphton wrote: How much did it cost you, and what are the features that stand out the most to you? On May 13, 2012, at 12:20 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi all, Thanks to all who posted on the router issue. I had a couple of glitches getting the Extreme up and running, but got it resolved with a call to tech support. And our network is not only stable once again, but seems noticeably faster. If anyone's contemplating an airport extreme, I give it a resounding thumbs up. Cheers, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email tomacvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed
RE: how to save audio from youtube
As long as clips are less than 10 minutes and you only need to do 1 file at a time, youtube-mp3.org is your best friend. The quality of the files provided is more than adequate, at least by my standards, and I use it both on the mac and the pc. Now, if you need to convert whole channels or much longer files, than I'm not aware of a good, fully accessible solution either on the mac or pc side. I used to use dvd videosoft's products on the PC side, but they just got too complicated, were less accessible, and wanted to install a bunch of stuff I didn't want on my machine. Good luck, and I hope this helps a little. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Erkens Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 8:42 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: how to save audio from youtube Hi listers, I have been googling about it, but it doesn't give me much useful voiceover friendly app information. On my macbook running Lion, what do you all use to save youtube content in mp3 on your hard drive? I could turn to windows and use total recorder there, but I guess there will be a far easier solution, for the mac. How does one save a youtube movie, or just its audio for that matter, on the hard disk? I found a lot about it, but either the ones I found appear to be mainly inaccessible, or they are to some degree, but more like a huge video program that can do lots of stuff, and some youtube saving as a bonus, making that hard to find, so I gave up on that. What I'd like to find is a simple, straight forward, and hopefully voiceover friendly solution. Does that exist to your knowledge? Any ideas? Paul. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Trying to reinstall operating system, not sure if I did it right
LOL! That is an understatement: VO start-up under lion being buggy. A few months ago, I did a clean install to see if it would help, but as far as I was concerned, the clean install had way more quirks than my upgrade install. Thank God for Carbon Copy Cloner; I just restored my original lion install, and have resigned myself to dealing with VO's quirks. Every time a lion update is released, I keep hoping they'll fix whatever they broke, but so far, no dice. I'm a bit nervous about Mountain Lion, but hopefully it will end up being better than Lion. I guess only time will tell. I guess the poit is that I agree with Daniel; reinstalling lion to fix that 1 little quirk was probably overkill, but at least Apple has made the OS installation accessible, so if nothing else, I suppose it was good mac practice. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 3:47 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Trying to reinstall operating system, not sure if I did it right Hi, I highly doubt you needed to reinstall for that. That's a known issue in Lion, where Voiceover will not speak at the login field, even though it's set to. In fact, there are bugs with VO starting on startup in lion in general. I've reported them to Apple for investigation, so perhaps they'll be addressed in Mountain Lion. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenny Keller Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 2:44 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Trying to reinstall operating system, not sure if I did it right I don't know yet, I only turned on my computer once since then and it went directly to the desk top, but that doesn't mean anything, it only means that it hasn't had time to act weird yet. We'll see the next time I shut down and turn it back on. Keep your fingers crossed. Jenny On May 5, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Scott Rumery wrote: The question you need to ask yourself is, did it fix my problem? I love how easy it is to get all back up and running on my Mac. Much easier than reinstalling Windows. Scott On May 5, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: I was having problems with my operating system, Lion, popping up with a log in field and no voice over even though it was set up to come on with the log in field, but it was also set to just log in without being loged in. Someone told me to reinstall Lion, using command R and holding it down until the computer booted up. Well, I did that, but I'm not sure I did it right. I told it to install Lion new, and it asked me to restart the machine so I did. what was the point of that, it seemed too easy. Did I do something wrong? Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Getting other voices for your mac.
Actually, it is possible to get additional voices for Snow Leopard, but unfortunately, they're not free. They're the acapella voices, and are very high quality. You can check them out at the following web site. http://www.assistiveware.com They're a bit pricy, but you can get 30 day trials for whatever voices you're interested in and then buy them after you've seen if they meet your needs. I ended up buying all of the English speaking acapella voices, and use Tracy as my system voice, although I still prefer Alex for Voceover. Good luck, and I hope this helps. _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Stacey Robinson Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 4:42 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Getting other voices for your mac. Oh, I see. Thanks. I'm really happy with Alex. I was just curious. On May 3, 2012, at 3:33 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: Hi, The extra voices are only for OS X Lion, unfortunately. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Stacey Robinson Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 3:31 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Getting other voices for your mac. Hi Daniel, Can you get extra voices for your mac? I have the white macbook running snowleopard. If you can get voices, where do you get them from? On May 3, 2012, at 5:11 AM, Daniel Miller wrote: Hi, Yes, there is a way you can remove the voices. I'm going to paste in instructions. Using Finders great Go to Folder feature of Command+Shift+G enter the following path: /System/Library/Speech/Voices/ You'll see a list of voices, but notice they come in two formats: Voice and VoiceCompact, you can keep VoiceCompact because those are just the short samples, it's the Voice.SpeechVoice you want to delete to remove the full voice. For a quick example we'll get rid of Samantha - sorry Samantha, you sound lovely but you take up too much space - so we will be deleting Samantha.SpeechVoice. Select that folder and either drag it to the Trash or hit Command+Delete to place it there automatically. Because the voice files are contained in /System/ you will need to authenticate with the http://osxdaily.com/2011/07/29/delete-voices-mac-os-x-lion/ administrator password in order to delete the file, so type that in, then you can empty the Trash. No more Samantha! I hope this helps! From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krysti .Power Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 5:08 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Deleting voices Id like to know this as well On 2012-05-03 7:05 AM, Lisette wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Is it possible to delete the many compact voices one doesn't use? Do these compact voices slow the Mac computers down at all? I have downloaded a few of the premium ones but really can't see a use for most of the pre installed voices. I suspect the answer will be no but thought it worth asking. Thanks to all for help on mailbox issues. All sorted now. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to
RE: Question about itunes store
Thanks. Unfortunately, I don't own an IOS device, just my macbook, and I don't think that having an IToy would solv these particular problems anyway. I called apple, and she helped me fill out forms for Itunes store. I think that in future, I'll ask for the email address I need to contact if I ever have these kinds of problems again. Still haven't heard back from Itunes, but it's only been a couple of hours, so I won't worry yet. In the mean time, I really need to quit buying music anyway, so this is a good reason to start behaving myself. LOL! -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Holmes Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 1:07 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Question about itunes store I understand all itunes issues have to be resolved online / email. When you call Apple support, they will most likely give you the URL or email address to follow through with. It's stuff like this I wish I could deal with in person on the phone; generally lots quicker that way. You might also try obtaining these tracks from an IOS device if you have one and sync over the cloud. Just a thought to try but if refunds and stuff like that are involved then you would have to contact Apple anyway. On 5/1/12, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Thanks! It's worth a try. I guess if it doesn't work, I can try calling Apple tomorrow. They might be able to point me in the right direction on how to get money back if need be. _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ezzie Bueno Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 9:40 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Question about itunes store Hello Missy, I had this problem myself and it seemed to fix itself once I restarted my computer. HTH, Ezzie Bueno Sent from my Macbook Pro ezziebu...@gmail.com (323) 448-0757 Check out daily jokes and more! www.SillyEz.com Facebook: http://facebook.com/SillyEz Twitter: http://twitter.com/SillyEz On May 1, 2012, at 6:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Good evening, all! I had a weird thing happen for the first time when buying music from the itunes store. One of the songs I bought refuses to download, claiming that the file is corrupt. I've tried checking for available downloads multiple times, but keep getting the same error. Also, in the same mini shopping spree, I got an album where some of the track titles were wrong, and were, in fact duplicates of other tracks on the same album. I've never had problems like this with the Itunes store, and am wondering how I might go about getting tech support or requesting a refund for the song I wasn't able to download and the ones which were listed on the album but really weren't there. Would I just call Apple, or is there an email address I should contact. I tried looking at help on the itunes store, but couldn't find anything that fit either of the situations I'm experiencing. Thank you all for your time, and any advice you may have would be extremely appreciated. Missy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Skype on the Mac made accessible?
I agree. Over all, using a real phone is much, much easier. I guess that's why I have skype, but don't use it regularly. The only thing I can figure is that maybe using skype as a replacement for a regular phone is cheaper, especially for long distance. I honestly don't know, but am tempted to experement with it a bit at some point. Also, I just saw the comment about the skype has new windo thing, and have to agree. That is very frustrating, especially if there's no easy way to see said new window. I do love, however, that I am able to set up growl notifications for nearly all skype events; that's a huge plus. _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 2:41 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? Gee, why not just use the telephone for goodness sake? I mean, why use other apps to make phone calls when a the Iphone does just fine of it's own accord? Sorry if I'm missing something here; but, think about it. Why use Skype to make phone calls when your own phone is just as good? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 http://m.facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1?refid=0 On May 2, 2012, at 1:34 PM, Austin Seraphin wrote: e SIP phone clients, both Telephone available from the Mac app store and Blink available from http://icanblink.com both work well. They sound better too. I just noticed this long thread so someone else has probably brought this up, but it drives me mad how the new Skype keeps saying Skype has new window. every single time some kind of change happens, like someone going online. Maddening! I don't keep Skype open for that reason. - Austin On Apr 30, 2012, at 6:03 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: In addition to Skype, are there any good SIP phone clients for the Mac which are accessible? I've used Linphone on Linux from the command line but would be interested in a Mac solution if there is one. Skype may be popular but the protocol is proprietary and SIP is more universal. SIP is probably one of the best VOIP protocols out there. On 4/30/12, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Ok. I have found that I can dial numbers again using the keyboard on my Mac but there is no edit field as there use to be when I first acquired the mac. Can this be brought back? Kawal. On 30 Apr 2012, at 10:16 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hi there! Thank you so much for starting this topic thread. Hopefully, this is the appropriate place to bring up my number 1 complaint with skype on the mac. When I first got my mac and installed Skype; I believe this was version 5.1 or so, the program always started in the contacts list. Ever sinve 5.3 or so, when I run the program, it starts me on something that Voiceover tells me is called Skype Home. It basicly looks like a facebook clone. Granted, it's not prohibatively difficult to navigate to a table, interract and find my contacts list and stop interracting, but I personally feel that this is something I shouldn't have to do, and it's just aggravating enough that I avoid using skype as often as possible, and only run it periodically to check for updates in hopes that this issue will some day be fixed. I've checked preferences time and again, and there simply isn't a way to configure how the program starts. To make this even more frustrating, when I ask people about id, they claim that they don't have this problem. I'd be more than happy to disconnect skype from facebook if it would fix the problem, but would rather not if I don't have to. I don't really understand the point of the favorites thing either, and miss the simplicity of the first mac version of skype I ever used. Sorry for the aimless rambling, but I hope it makes sense to someone. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 5:07 PM To: macvisionaries Subject: Skype on the Mac made accessible? This message is for Kevin Chow if he is working with Skype on the Mac with Skype Team. Hi Kevin. I have been using Skype on the Mac for a long time and when Google had the program, it worked beautifully with the Mac. However since Microsoft have bought it, it has not been very good on the Mac. The dial pad is inaccessible. Is there any way of getting Skype for Mac fixed? If there are other issues, feel free any one to say if Kevin is going to get this sorted. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email
RE: Skype on the Mac made accessible?
Wow! I wonder what those of us who can't get it to start up in the contacts list are doing wrong? Is yours connected to facebook? This is getting curiouser and curiouser. I'm still irritated by the idea that this is supposedly a premium feature, when it should just be a given option if desired. Not sure I'm articulating that right, but how can having the program start somewhere that's actually be considered a premium? That should count as basic functionality, and for those who are able to get it started in the contacts list, I'd love to know what they're doing differently, so I can try to fix mine. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 11:39 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? Hmm! I know I have the latest version of Skype, and mine always starts in the contact list. Chris. - Original Message - From: Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 5:30 AM Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? I don't honestly see the point of paying for a feature that was free in previous versions. video conferencing I can understand, but this? I DON'T THINK SO! It seems to me that Microsoft is trying to soak us for more money, especially considering that their flagship product (windows 7) had such a poor showing over the last 4 years (millions of corporate machines still running XP). -eric On Apr 30, 2012, at 3:23 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: This was a change made in Skype 5.X. It's possible that your friend is running an earlier version of Skype, e.g. V2.X. Please Skype.com for pricing details. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2012, at 6:11 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: That doesn't sound at all right or fair. How much is this skype premium. If it's cheap, and there isn't a monthly fee, I might consider it, but it never used to be that way, and if that's the case, how is it possible that at least 1 person I've talked to who is also using the free version is able to start in contacts like it used to do? I'm not trying to complain or be difficult; am just genuinely puzzled by this. Thanks! -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 6:08 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? I raised this issue wiht Skype beta team a while ago and I was toldwas that this is by design. If you wish to not have Skype not start at Home, rather your contacts, it's required to purchase Skype Premium. FYI: eBay (not Google owned Skype before) and now Microsoft has it Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2012, at 5:16 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hi there! Thank you so much for starting this topic thread. Hopefully, this is the appropriate place to bring up my number 1 complaint with skype on the mac. When I first got my mac and installed Skype; I believe this was version 5.1 or so, the program always started in the contacts list. Ever sinve 5.3 or so, when I run the program, it starts me on something that Voiceover tells me is called Skype Home. It basicly looks like a facebook clone. Granted, it's not prohibatively difficult to navigate to a table, interract and find my contacts list and stop interracting, but I personally feel that this is something I shouldn't have to do, and it's just aggravating enough that I avoid using skype as often as possible, and only run it periodically to check for updates in hopes that this issue will some day be fixed. I've checked preferences time and again, and there simply isn't a way to configure how the program starts. To make this even more frustrating, when I ask people about id, they claim that they don't have this problem. I'd be more than happy to disconnect skype from facebook if it would fix the problem, but would rather not if I don't have to. I don't really understand the point of the favorites thing either, and miss the simplicity of the first mac version of skype I ever used. Sorry for the aimless rambling, but I hope it makes sense to someone. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 5:07 PM To: macvisionaries Subject: Skype on the Mac made accessible? This message is for Kevin Chow if he is working with Skype on the Mac with Skype Team. Hi Kevin. I have been using Skype on the Mac for a long time and when Google had the program, it worked beautifully with the Mac. However since Microsoft have bought it, it has not been very good on the Mac. The dial pad is inaccessible. Is there any way of getting Skype for Mac fixed? If there are other issues, feel
RE: Skype on the Mac made accessible?)
Hmm. Very interesting. I have voice-mail enabled on mine too, but have never used it. I don't have any credits, though. I wonder if that's the key. I don't use skype enough to justfy spending money on it, though, so I wonder if there's anyone else willing/able to experiment with this theory. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lisette wesseling Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 2:29 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Skype on the Mac made accessible?) Hi folks My husband and I got our macs only recently and I have just joined this list. My skype starts in the home screen, but my husband's starts in the contacts table. The only difference between us is that he has skype credits and voicemail activated, and I don't. Could this be the reason? We have compared our mac settings and can't see why our skype would start in different places. Neither of us have it connected to facebook. I don't think he has premium though - just a skype number and voicemail. Unless that is what they call premium. It's not a problem getting to the contacts table though, and I actually find skype quite easy to use on the Mac, no more difficult than under windows. Just one question: how do you read messages people send you? I really can't figure out how to do this. Thanks. Lisette On 2/05/2012, at 3:41 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: I use Express Talk Pro. It is so ridiculously accessible I had it figured out in less than 5 minutes literally. Chris. - Original Message - From: Emrah li...@kavun.ch To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 9:05 AM Subject: Re: Sip Phone for Mac (was RE: Skype on the Mac made accessible?) Blink Pro is a more sophisticated alternative with fabulous support for conferencing and extremely accessible. On Apr 30, 2012, at 6:23 PM, Blake Sinnett wrote: Yep. It's simply called Telephone. Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:03:15 -0700 Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? From: steve.holme...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com In addition to Skype, are there any good SIP phone clients for the Mac which are accessible? I've used Linphone on Linux from the command line but would be interested in a Mac solution if there is one. Skype may be popular but the protocol is proprietary and SIP is more universal. SIP is probably one of the best VOIP protocols out there. On 4/30/12, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Ok. I have found that I can dial numbers again using the keyboard on my Mac but there is no edit field as there use to be when I first acquired the mac. Can this be brought back? Kawal. On 30 Apr 2012, at 10:16 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hi there! Thank you so much for starting this topic thread. Hopefully, this is the appropriate place to bring up my number 1 complaint with skype on the mac. When I first got my mac and installed Skype; I believe this was version 5.1 or so, the program always started in the contacts list. Ever sinve 5.3 or so, when I run the program, it starts me on something that Voiceover tells me is called Skype Home. It basicly looks like a facebook clone. Granted, it's not prohibatively difficult to navigate to a table, interract and find my contacts list and stop interracting, but I personally feel that this is something I shouldn't have to do, and it's just aggravating enough that I avoid using skype as often as possible, and only run it periodically to check for updates in hopes that this issue will some day be fixed. I've checked preferences time and again, and there simply isn't a way to configure how the program starts. To make this even more frustrating, when I ask people about id, they claim that they don't have this problem. I'd be more than happy to disconnect skype from facebook if it would fix the problem, but would rather not if I don't have to. I don't really understand the point of the favorites thing either, and miss the simplicity of the first mac version of skype I ever used. Sorry for the aimless rambling, but I hope it makes sense to someone. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 5:07 PM To: macvisionaries Subject: Skype on the Mac made accessible? This message is for Kevin Chow if he is working with Skype on the Mac with Skype Team. Hi Kevin. I have been using Skype on the Mac for a long time and when Google had the program, it worked beautifully with the Mac. However since Microsoft have bought it, it has not been very good on the Mac. The dial pad is inaccessible. Is there any way of getting Skype
RE: Skype on the Mac made accessible?
I've looked everywhere in preferences and can't find that. I wonder if finding it and unchecking it would help. If anyone knows where that is in preferences, I'd really appreciate finding out. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 3:10 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? I know when I got Skype I went in to the preferences and can't remember where but unchecked the box for Face book. Then my Skype was normal starting in the contact list. I did this so long ago. Kawal. On 1 May 2012, at 04:47 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Wow! I wonder what those of us who can't get it to start up in the contacts list are doing wrong? Is yours connected to facebook? This is getting curiouser and curiouser. I'm still irritated by the idea that this is supposedly a premium feature, when it should just be a given option if desired. Not sure I'm articulating that right, but how can having the program start somewhere that's actually be considered a premium? That should count as basic functionality, and for those who are able to get it started in the contacts list, I'd love to know what they're doing differently, so I can try to fix mine. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 11:39 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? Hmm! I know I have the latest version of Skype, and mine always starts in the contact list. Chris. - Original Message - From: Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 5:30 AM Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? I don't honestly see the point of paying for a feature that was free in previous versions. video conferencing I can understand, but this? I DON'T THINK SO! It seems to me that Microsoft is trying to soak us for more money, especially considering that their flagship product (windows 7) had such a poor showing over the last 4 years (millions of corporate machines still running XP). -eric On Apr 30, 2012, at 3:23 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: This was a change made in Skype 5.X. It's possible that your friend is running an earlier version of Skype, e.g. V2.X. Please Skype.com for pricing details. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2012, at 6:11 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: That doesn't sound at all right or fair. How much is this skype premium. If it's cheap, and there isn't a monthly fee, I might consider it, but it never used to be that way, and if that's the case, how is it possible that at least 1 person I've talked to who is also using the free version is able to start in contacts like it used to do? I'm not trying to complain or be difficult; am just genuinely puzzled by this. Thanks! -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 6:08 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? I raised this issue wiht Skype beta team a while ago and I was toldwas that this is by design. If you wish to not have Skype not start at Home, rather your contacts, it's required to purchase Skype Premium. FYI: eBay (not Google owned Skype before) and now Microsoft has it Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2012, at 5:16 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hi there! Thank you so much for starting this topic thread. Hopefully, this is the appropriate place to bring up my number 1 complaint with skype on the mac. When I first got my mac and installed Skype; I believe this was version 5.1 or so, the program always started in the contacts list. Ever sinve 5.3 or so, when I run the program, it starts me on something that Voiceover tells me is called Skype Home. It basicly looks like a facebook clone. Granted, it's not prohibatively difficult to navigate to a table, interract and find my contacts list and stop interracting, but I personally feel that this is something I shouldn't have to do, and it's just aggravating enough that I avoid using skype as often as possible, and only run it periodically to check for updates in hopes that this issue will some day be fixed. I've checked preferences time and again, and there simply isn't a way to configure how the program starts. To make this even more frustrating, when I ask people about id, they claim that they don't have this problem. I'd be more than happy to disconnect skype from facebook if it would fix the problem, but would rather not if I don't have to. I don't really understand the point of the favorites thing either, and miss the simplicity of the first mac version of skype I
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Well, the consensus seems to be that you do indeed have to pay for skype or have credit for it to start in the contacts list. I think this is the dumbest move ever on the programmers' part, and very shameful that we have to pay for such basic functionality, but I did confirm it. Skype was a lot more affordible than I thought, so I bought a year's subscription to the US for $30. Sure enough, skype now allows me to start in the contacts list. There's a part of me that is ashamed to have rewarded such a dispicable practice, but I'm hoping that over time, the subscription will pay for itself. So, over all, I have very mixed emotions right now. I'm happy that skype is behaving as it should, but angry that I had to pay money for this functionality to be achieved. I hope this helps someone; I guess that my investment will be worth it if it helps to improve accessibility for someone else. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 4:50 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? Yes, mine is connected to Facebook, and has been way before this most recent version. Even when it wasn't though, skype has always gone to my contacts at first. Chris. - Original Message - From: Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 11:47 AM Subject: RE: Skype on the Mac made accessible? Wow! I wonder what those of us who can't get it to start up in the contacts list are doing wrong? Is yours connected to facebook? This is getting curiouser and curiouser. I'm still irritated by the idea that this is supposedly a premium feature, when it should just be a given option if desired. Not sure I'm articulating that right, but how can having the program start somewhere that's actually be considered a premium? That should count as basic functionality, and for those who are able to get it started in the contacts list, I'd love to know what they're doing differently, so I can try to fix mine. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 11:39 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? Hmm! I know I have the latest version of Skype, and mine always starts in the contact list. Chris. - Original Message - From: Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 5:30 AM Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? I don't honestly see the point of paying for a feature that was free in previous versions. video conferencing I can understand, but this? I DON'T THINK SO! It seems to me that Microsoft is trying to soak us for more money, especially considering that their flagship product (windows 7) had such a poor showing over the last 4 years (millions of corporate machines still running XP). -eric On Apr 30, 2012, at 3:23 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: This was a change made in Skype 5.X. It's possible that your friend is running an earlier version of Skype, e.g. V2.X. Please Skype.com for pricing details. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2012, at 6:11 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: That doesn't sound at all right or fair. How much is this skype premium. If it's cheap, and there isn't a monthly fee, I might consider it, but it never used to be that way, and if that's the case, how is it possible that at least 1 person I've talked to who is also using the free version is able to start in contacts like it used to do? I'm not trying to complain or be difficult; am just genuinely puzzled by this. Thanks! -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 6:08 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? I raised this issue wiht Skype beta team a while ago and I was toldwas that this is by design. If you wish to not have Skype not start at Home, rather your contacts, it's required to purchase Skype Premium. FYI: eBay (not Google owned Skype before) and now Microsoft has it Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2012, at 5:16 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hi there! Thank you so much for starting this topic thread. Hopefully, this is the appropriate place to bring up my number 1 complaint with skype on the mac. When I first got my mac and installed Skype; I believe this was version 5.1 or so, the program always started in the contacts list. Ever sinve 5.3 or so, when I run the program, it starts me on something that Voiceover tells me is called Skype Home. It basicly looks like a facebook clone. Granted, it's not prohibatively difficult
