Re: Airport Extreme replacement recommendations?

[Slau Halatyn]

Thanks for the information, Jeff. I'll look into it. Cheers,
Slau


> On Jan 28, 2020, at 11:32 PM, Jeff Greene  wrote:
> 
> Hi Slau,
> I currently have a Grifin Unhackable Mesh wifi router and like it a lot. It 
> uses an iphone app to set it up and manage the network. The app is totally 
> accessible. And, the router is fast!
> Before this I had a Synology RT2600AC router which is very nice and fast too. 
> It uses a web interface to set it up. I had it for like two years though and 
> started getting really slow downloads and zip files that couldn't be unzipped.
> Hope this helps! Jeff
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Re: Airport Extreme replacement recommendations?

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Hi Donna,
Fantastic, thanks for the info. Cheers,
Slau


> On Jan 28, 2020, at 3:15 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi Slau,
> 
> We just replaced our Extreme with a Netgear Orby, and so far have been quite 
> happy with it. You'll want some sighted help using the app during the setup, 
> but otherwise it works well.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
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>> On Jan 28, 2020, at 12:48 AM, Slau Halatyn > <mailto:slauhala...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> I've been happily using my Airport extreme for many years now and it finally 
>> went belly up. So… Since I haven't been up on the accessibility of newer 
>> routers, any recommendations for any that play nice with VoiceOver? Cheers,
>> Slau
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Airport Extreme replacement recommendations?

[Slau Halatyn]

I've been happily using my Airport extreme for many years now and it finally 
went belly up. So… Since I haven't been up on the accessibility of newer 
routers, any recommendations for any that play nice with VoiceOver? Cheers,
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Re: Backblaze with voiceover?

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Navigate to the table and turn tracking off. Use the VoiceOver cursor to read 
the list. You won't get any alerts. If you VO Space on anything, that'll select 
it.
HTH


> On Feb 28, 2019, at 10:14 AM, Matt Turner  wrote:
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> Hi, tried that as well.
> Still get the same result.
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2019, at 9:57 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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>>  Try arrow keys alone.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>> On 2/27/2019 6:54 PM, Matt Turner wrote:
>>> Hi, its a table.
>>> When you interact with it, and start vo down arrowing, that’s when it 
>>> throws you in a folder, with a message saying you can’t elect this folder 
>>> for something.
 On Feb 27, 2019, at 9:49 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
  If its a table or scroll area,  then interact with it. See if that does 
 it.
 
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 Many believe that we have been visited
 in the past. What if it were true?
 
 On 2/27/2019 6:46 PM, Matt Turner wrote:
> Hi, Its and app on the Mac, used for uploading to the Backblaze servers.
> Its pretty much accessible except for the excluding folders from backing 
> up.
> That’s the only weird vo problem.
>> On Feb 27, 2019, at 9:28 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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>>  Is this an app on the Mac or is it all done online? I won't trial this 
>> just yet.
>> 
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>> 
>> On 2/27/2019 5:55 PM, Matt Turner wrote:
>>> You can also excludes folders from backing up.
>>> In the Backblaze settings, there’s a table off all the excluded folder, 
>>> but when trying to see the folders, it must think your trying to select 
>>> the folder, instead of just reading the folders in the table.
 On Feb 27, 2019, at 8:21 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
  True. I just bookmarked the site and will look at it later. I think 
 the best strategy would include both local and off site backups.
 
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> Hi, on the web sight you can pick from your files to restore.
> That part doesn’t seem accessible.
> Yess I no about time machine, but wanted something off site in case 
> we ever had  a house fire.
> Dropbox limits you at 1TB
>> On Feb 27, 2019, at 6:54 PM, jeff `greene  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi I’ve used backblaze for the past year. It works perfectly from 
>> mac os. I haven’t tried downloading anything I’ve uploaded but I get 
>> constant emails about once a week with my backup status. I mostly 
>> use the app through the extras menu where I check my backup status 
>> and hit the backup now button once in a while.
>> I’ve heard its the only on line backup service that’s accessible.
>> Jeff
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2019, at 6:46 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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>>> Never heard of it. Do you know about Time Machine which is part of 
>>> macOS? I use that and Carbon Copy Cloner. Both are quite accessible.
>>> 
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 Hi, just wondering if anyone uses this for backing up there stuff?
 I use to use it on windows, but then started using dropbox for 
 backing up things.
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Re: where have people encountered the phrase "has alternate items" with VoiceOver

[Slau Halatyn]

Thanks. I actually found just such a custom menu in the Apple Photos app. Got 
what I needed. Cheers, Slau.


> On Feb 23, 2019, at 8:38 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> I have seen this on i think the full screen buttons in some applications.
> I think they use to be in the toolbar.
> /A
> 
>> 23 feb. 2019 kl. 02:14 skrev Slau Halatyn :
>> 
>> The accessibility API has an option for custom menus where voiceOver would 
>> announce "has alternate items." I know I've seen this before but I cannot 
>> remember where. I'm looking for an example of such a custom menu for 
>> purposes of pointing a developer at it to see how it is implemented. Does 
>> anybody recall where they might have also seen this?
>> Cheers,
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where have people encountered the phrase "has alternate items" with VoiceOver

[Slau Halatyn]

The accessibility API has an option for custom menus where voiceOver would 
announce "has alternate items." I know I've seen this before but I cannot 
remember where. I'm looking for an example of such a custom menu for purposes 
of pointing a developer at it to see how it is implemented. Does anybody recall 
where they might have also seen this?
Cheers,
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Re: Pro Tools with VO? is it any good?

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The basic version of Pro Tools is $99 per year as a subscription after an 
initial cost of $199 for the first year which includes support. While the 
subscription is active, all updates are free. It's actually not expensive in in 
general. For those who put the time in to learn it, it's the most accessible 
audio platform but it's perhaps overkill for some folks.
> On Feb 26, 2018, at 8:47 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> Problem with protools is that it is so expensive that a Home Studio or 
> someone like me who is intrested can’t even afford it.
> /A
> 
>> 23 feb. 2018 kl. 16:49 skrev CHUCK REICHEL :
>> 
>> Hi Oriol,
>> Don't want to get into a Mines better than yours discussion!
>> But in a nut shell Pro Tools is very straight forward in achieving tasks & 
>> Logic is very convoluted to do the same task!
>> And we all know time is money! :)
>> Its a shame Apple has owned Logic Audio for such a long period of time and 
>> are still not up to there own Accessibility standards yet! :(
>> I do 1 on 1 tutoring with Avid's Pro tools if anybody wants to contact me 
>> off list!
>> Talk soon
>> Chuck
 "God does not play dice with the universe"
 "Albert Einstein’
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 23, 2018, at 8:29 AM, Oriol Gómez wrote:
>> 
>>> What are some differences between protools and logic?
>>> 
>>> Anything you can tell us?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> On 2/23/18, CHUCK REICHEL  wrote:
 Hi Michael,
 Yes Avid Pro tools is VoiceOver accessible!
 Also you don't need flowtools at all Pro tools works right out of the box
 just fine.
 Its the best option for Audio recording out there!
 Yes I have logic audio and there is absolutely no comparison when it comes
 time to work in realtime along side of clients.
 Talk soon
 Chuck
 "God does not play dice with the universe"
 "Albert Einstein’
 
 
 
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> hey all,
> Apologies if this has been asked before but i'm wondering if
> 
> Pro Tools works at all with voiceover.
> I was reading something about an open source set of scripts called flow
> tools which uses a third party program called keyboard maestro but i'm
> still not sure.
> Has anyone on here ever managed to successfully use
> 
> Pro Tools?
> 
> thanks
> 
> Michael
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Re: Pro Tools with VO? is it any good?

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You'd have to either renew your license with support or go for the monthly 
rental. Here's what a Google search of "Avid Pro Tools Peripherals" turned up:
http://avid.force.com/pkb/articles/en_US/Compatibility/Pro-Tools-Approved-Audio-Interfaces-and-Peripherals
 
<http://avid.force.com/pkb/articles/en_US/Compatibility/Pro-Tools-Approved-Audio-Interfaces-and-Peripherals>

> On Feb 24, 2018, at 4:07 AM, Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hey,
> I thought i would try PT 2018 out but i can only see a free trial of PT 11 
> which is quite useless since i already have tested it. Is there a free trial 
> or do i have to renew my license which i haven’t done since v11 came out?
> Also is there a list of compatible control surfaces both third party and 
> Avids own?
> /Krister
> 
> 
>> 23 feb. 2018 kl. 23:18 skrev Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:slauhala...@gmail.com>>:
>> 
>> Hi Michael,
>> 
>> Pro Tools is quite accessible and has been improving over the years. Flo 
>> Tools is a set of macros that make using Pro Tools far more efficient. 
>> FloTools.org <http://flotools.org/> has a bunch of information along with 
>> tutorials, etc. One thing to consider is that there is currently nothing out 
>> there in the way of Pro Tools-specific tutorials from a blindness 
>> perspective. There was something called ProToolsWithSpeech.com 
>> <http://protoolswithspeech.com/> but that's quite out-of-date at this point. 
>> That said, it can be learned pretty much by reading the pdf manuals, 
>> although it's daunting given the sheer amount of info. It's absolutely not 
>> for the faint of heart but, it's worth it if you're serious about audio. 
>> Essentially, you'll get out of it what you put into it. There's an email 
>> list and a WhatsApp group. Feel free to contact me off-list if you'd like 
>> more info.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Slau
>> 
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>>> <mailto:mightymaggie...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> hey all,
>>> Apologies if this has been asked before but i'm wondering if 
>>> 
>>> Pro Tools works at all with voiceover.
>>> I was reading something about an open source set of scripts called flow 
>>> tools which uses a third party program called keyboard maestro but i'm 
>>> still not sure.
>>> Has anyone on here ever managed to successfully use 
>>> 
>>> Pro Tools?
>>> 
>>> thanks
>>> 
>>> Michael
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Re: Pro Tools with VO? is it any good?

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Hi Michael,

Pro Tools is quite accessible and has been improving over the years. Flo Tools 
is a set of macros that make using Pro Tools far more efficient. FloTools.org 
<http://flotools.org/> has a bunch of information along with tutorials, etc. 
One thing to consider is that there is currently nothing out there in the way 
of Pro Tools-specific tutorials from a blindness perspective. There was 
something called ProToolsWithSpeech.com <http://protoolswithspeech.com/> but 
that's quite out-of-date at this point. That said, it can be learned pretty 
much by reading the pdf manuals, although it's daunting given the sheer amount 
of info. It's absolutely not for the faint of heart but, it's worth it if 
you're serious about audio. Essentially, you'll get out of it what you put into 
it. There's an email list and a WhatsApp group. Feel free to contact me 
off-list if you'd like more info.

Cheers,
Slau

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> hey all,
> Apologies if this has been asked before but i'm wondering if 
> 
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> I was reading something about an open source set of scripts called flow tools 
> which uses a third party program called keyboard maestro but i'm still not 
> sure.
> Has anyone on here ever managed to successfully use 
> 
> Pro Tools?
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> thanks
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Re: Accessible hard drive recovery software

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I found Data Rescue versions 2 through 4 to be very accessible and I was able 
to recover files quite easily. I'm not sure what version they're up to but 
they've historically been good with accessibility.
HTH,
Slau

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> Hi all
> Anyone used hard drive recovery software before and can recommend something 
> which is accessible with voiceover?
> A friend recommended Disk Drill Media Recovery but I’m not sure if it’s 
> accessible and I’m not really willing to just buy and try, since it’s not 
> cheap.
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Keyboard Maestro version 8 slated for accessibility fix

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For those of you who might be using Keyboard Maestro, version 8 has a bit of an 
issue where the trigger is no longer visible in the Macros scroll area. 
Triggers are still visible in the edit detail of each macro. The developer is 
aware of the issue and it's been fixed for the next release. There was an 
update yesterday so the next update won't be for a little while but at least we 
know it's been addressed. Just an FYI.
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Re: FileMaker, or other database?

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FileMaker is accessible for the most part. I haven’t tried creating new 
templates but I’m using a database I created back around 1992 with FileMaker 4 
and it’s working just fine. Dialogs and such are fully accessible. I found it 
just a tad confusing when trying to create a brand new database within 
FileMaker 12 but I’m sure with a little sighted assistance, I could get around 
that initial hurdle. I simply haven’t had the need since I have that template I 
created back in the day.
HTH,
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> Wow, I'm a bit surprised. Nobody here has any experience with any database 
> program on the Mac? I'd really like to know about FileMaker, but any database 
> you might be using with success.
> 
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>> Hello all, does anybody have any experience using FileMaker, or another 
>> database on the Mac? Are you still use FileMaker a lot. But not for the last 
>> several years and not at all with voiceover. Curious to know if it plays 
>> well with voiceover.
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El Capitan and multiple voices

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I used to be a big fan of using multiple voices for various categories  within 
the Speech pane of VoiceOver preferences. At a certain  point, things got kind 
of screwy and I stopped using that option and just kept everything set to Alex. 
I recently, perhaps hastily, upgraded to El Capitan right before going on 
vacation, which was probably not a brilliant move. Anyway, I figured I’d 
revisit the multiple voice thing. I noticed a day or two later that VoiceOver 
would stop, or at least, I heard no voice. It happened a few times and all I 
could do was force shut down the computer. I finally realized that the voice 
would cut out right when either an attribute changed or a link was encountered 
which meant that a different voice was a bout to be triggered. I was using at 
least one third-party voice from Cepstral among the voices. I have a feeling it 
could be a potential conflict. I’ve switched off additional voice options for 
the time-being and, so far, so good. Just thought I’d mention it for the sake 
of others.
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Re: here's an application that'll move the mouse in fixed increments

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Sure. This is just one example and there are others. In Pro Tools, there's a 
plug-in window in which parameters can be edited to affect selected audio. In 
the case of the Normalize plug-in, the gain parameter (which appears to be 
labelled and one would assume is accessible) is not accessible even though 
other parameters like it are editable when you interact with the parameter. In 
actuality, the edit field is nine-tenths of an inch to the right. Routing the 
mouse pointer to the focused control requires you to move the mouse exactly 
9/10 of an inch. You can't do that with Mouse Keys reliably. You could possibly 
examine the mouse pointer coordinates, use the track pad, constantly query the 
coordinates until you've moved the required distance to the right, making sure 
you haven't moved down in the mean time. With Move Mouse, it's possible to move 
left with a few strokes of the keyboard shortcut in a matter of a second or two 
and you're done.

Slau

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 Hi,
 
 Thanks, can you please post some real life examples or scenarios where
 you have put this to use?
 
 Best,
 Mika
 
 On 10/15/14, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 Folks,
 
 For the longest time, I've been looking for some app or script that would
 allow me to move the mouse pointer in fixed increments in any direction.
 Mouse Keys does support this but it's unreliable and results can't be
 duplicated precisely. I called upon a few Mac geeks to help solve the
 problem and here's the result:
 http://www.podfeet.com/blog/2014/10/movemouse/
 
 There are certainly macro programs like Keyboard Maestro that'll do the same
 thing but, this app does just this one type of function and it does it well
 and it's free. Hope you find it helpful.
 
 :)
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here's an application that'll move the mouse in fixed increments

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Folks,

For the longest time, I've been looking for some app or script that would allow 
me to move the mouse pointer in fixed increments in any direction. Mouse Keys 
does support this but it's unreliable and results can't be duplicated 
precisely. I called upon a few Mac geeks to help solve the problem and here's 
the result:
http://www.podfeet.com/blog/2014/10/movemouse/

There are certainly macro programs like Keyboard Maestro that'll do the same 
thing but, this app does just this one type of function and it does it well and 
it's free. Hope you find it helpful.

:)
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asking for confirmation of web site fail

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Folks,

I've used the sweetwater web site for years and never had issues until a few 
weeks ago. Whenever I go there now and try to do a search then bring up the web 
rotor, it puts Safari into that infamous busy state. If I quit VoiceOver, 
exit the rotor, I can technically navigate the site item by item or by using 
header commands, etc., but rotor is completely unusable. Can someone confirm 
this behavior on their machine? bTW, When first landing on 
http://www.sweetwater.com the rotor works somewhat if it's not on form 
controls. As soon as I get to form controls, it locks up.

Much appreciated,

Slau

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Re: asking for confirmation of web site fail

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Ah, thanks for the confirmation. I'll experiment with turning off styles and 
see if anything is broken.

Cheers,

Slau

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 Howdy.
 
 I can confirm this problem.  It seems to be caused by the email signup form 
 further down the page.  It happens if with vo-j as soon as vo hits that area. 
  Also, if I move vo from the bottom of the page with vo-left, it will happen 
 as soon as it hits the signup button.  It works fine if I disable styles from 
 the develop menu, but I haven't tested it enough to know if doing that breaks 
 any functionality.
 
 
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 Folks,
 
 I've used the sweetwater web site for years and never had issues until a few 
 weeks ago. Whenever I go there now and try to do a search then bring up the 
 web rotor, it puts Safari into that infamous busy state. If I quit 
 VoiceOver, exit the rotor, I can technically navigate the site item by item 
 or by using header commands, etc., but rotor is completely unusable. Can 
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 http://www.sweetwater.com the rotor works somewhat if it's not on form 
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Re: downloading files from sendspace

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Hi Andrew,

My guess would be that the download never actually completed and thus is still 
considered a Safari download and will be reported as such by the OS. Check your 
Downloads window in Safari and see if the download has been paused or stopped 
and try to resume it.

Hope that helps,

Slau

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 Hi all,
 I downloaded an audio file someone had shared on sendspace. It’s an mp3 file, 
 but when it was downloaded, the mac saw it as a safari file and not as an mp3 
 file. I tried opening it, but when I extracted the mp3 file, it was only 15 
 kb instead of 129 mb. In the future, how do I get files from sendspace to 
 show up as their proper mp3 format or what ever format they are in? 
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Re: learning how to encode files to DAISY format

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Hi Katie,

I think some folks over at the MacVisionaries email list would probably have 
more useful information on the subject. Unless somebody here can chime in, I 
think that'll be your best bet.

Cheers,

Slau

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 Hi, everyone. I hope this isn't to off topic. I'm planning on working at a 
 recording studio in Northridge California soon. They produce video 
 descriptions for TV networks, documentaries, online music videos and have 
 worked on adding description to educational videos for classrooms. They will 
 also be working on a proposal to get a contract for recording books and 
 putting them in DAISY format for the NLS which should start this fall if 
 everything goes well. I'm trying to figure out what the best software is for 
 converting and encoding audio files to DAISY format. I went on wikipedia last 
 night to learn what DAISY is and also browsed www.daisy.org. When I looked at 
 the links for production and conversion tools, there's plenty of different 
 software that you can download. I wasn't sure which software to look at that 
 works well for encoding audio books for navigation and converting them in 
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Re: Protools Primers or Other Tutorials?

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Hi Des,

First thing you should do is subscribe to the PTAccess list at Google Groups. 
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Kevin Reeves did some basic audio tutorials that'll get you started.

Best,

Slau

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 Hi everyone:
 First time writing into the list, though I've taken quite a few gems from the 
 discussions on here, so thank you for that.
 I'm wondering if anyone knows of a comprehensive tutorial, be it in podcast 
 or written form, on using Protools with Voiceover. I'll need to start using 
 it soon for a class and I'd like to at least have an idea of how the basic 
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Re: itunes 11 is out

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Here's what you need to do to get the behavior you used to see in the previous 
version of iTunes:
1. Select the Songs radio button.
2. Make sure the Column Browser is visible, then under the Column Browser 
submenu uncheck the Genres option and check the Artist and Album options.

Now you can just use first letter navigation and arrow keys to select artist 
and album and the music table will be in a list view rather than grid. The one 
behavior I can't replicate is the ability to simply press space bar on a 
different album to play that new album. iTunes 11 will continue to play the 
previously selected album until you bring up a contextual menu and hit the Play 
option. I think it might work by pressing the Play button as well but I'm not 
sure.

HTH,

Slau

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 Hi,
 One thing i can't get my head around is, if i have the view set to albums, 
 how can i see the list of tracks on an album i have chosen? This no longer 
 does seem to work. In previous versions there was a table with the tracks of 
 a chosen album but this is gone now. No, i do not want the old interface 
 back, i want to learn the new one, but i want to know this.
 /Krister
 
 30 nov 2012 kl. 16:27 skrev Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net:
 
 Yes, after looking closer at the window, I found the set of radio buttons. 
 Over all I like the new interface, much more stream lined.
 Original message:
 You can switch to list view.
 There are three radio buttons.
 One thing i do like is the ability to see shows in the cloud.
 
 On Nov 29, 2012, at 5:11 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote:
 
 One thing I don't like about the new version, and perhaps there is a way 
 to change this, it groups your tv shows by season now, there's no way that 
 I can find to just get a list of all shows in a nice long list.
 On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:14 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If you don’t want to use the library, then you’re out of luck. I 
 personally like the library.
 
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
 Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:06 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
 
 Ah, of course.  But, suppose you don't want to use the ITunes library?  
 that's always been my beaf with ITunes anyhow.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac user!
 
 On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Matthew Campbell wrestling.ch...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 
 Hi.
 iTunes 11 does have a new feature called up next. This only allows you to 
 cue up songs in the library though.
 
 On 2012-11-29, at 2:56 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote:
 
 
 Well, what I mean is that I wanted to be able to locate a file using 
 finder and cue it up in ITunes to play after the current file.  I know 
 that, ITunes has never allowed files to be play in that way.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac user!
 
 On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 What do you mean directly from the finder? I never knew you could even do 
 that.
 Also, for windows users, the menu bar is hidden by default, and refuses 
 to read with jaws when you show it.
 
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
 Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:40 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
 
 Well, you see, I had a problem.  Every single time I tried to add files 
 to my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally fresh OS 
 reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it was not permitted 
 to add the files themselves to the Library.
 
 What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11?  Is 
 this possible?
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac user!
 
 On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes to 
 navigating around the UI. On Windows, there’s even more tabbing around 
 than there used to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, however, I use it 
 primarily on the Mac.
 As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I’m not quite sure 
 why you’d need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to not place 
 the files in the media folder itself when you copy them to the library, 
 therefore freeing up that drive space you say you lose.
 
 From: 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
 On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
 Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
 
 What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 from what 
 you've seen so far?
 
 I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes is still as 
 library dependant as the other versions have been.  IF so

Re: What's the difference between Artist and Album Artist?

[Slau]

I know you resolved this issue but, for the sake of others who might not have 
figured it out, here's an example where artist and album artist can help:
On the most recent Tony Bennett album, Duets 2, each song's artist label 
includes Tony Bennett and his guest's name. So, in itunes, you get twenty 
different artists pertaining to that one album. In order to play the album, you 
couldn't just arrow down to tony Bennett and select the album. You'd have to 
view things differently or search or whatever.

In a case like this, selecting all of the songs in the table and getting info 
will bring up a dialog to simultaneously edit the ID3 tags. By putting in Tony 
Bennett as album artist, the album now shows up under a single artist's name. 
Each individual song still has tony and the guest listed as artist but the 
album shows up under the general artist folder for Tony Bennett.

Hope that helps someone,

Slau

On Dec 1, 2012, at 10:15 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

 Sorry if this seems like a dumb question, but it seems to me like these would 
 be the same thing.
 Best,
 Donna
 
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trying to identify a bug with VoiceOver in Mountain Lion

[Slau Halatyn]

There seems to be a bug with VoiceOver under Mountain Lion that didn't exist 
under Lion or Snow Leopard. Within Pro Tools, there are a bunch of counter 
displays and buttons that don't read correctly. This is expecially puzzling 
since the programmer followed Apple's guidelines to make the application 
accessible. Emails have been sent to Apple regarding the problem but it was 
also suggested that, if we find another instance of text fields or multi-state 
buttons not reading correctly under Mountain Lion but correctly under Snow 
Leopard or Lion, it might lend a bit of urgency as this situation is, well, 
urgent. Anybody aware of any such scenarios with other programs?

Cheers,

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Re: 128kb aac or 256kb mp3, which is higher quality?

[Slau]

AAC and mp3 are essentially the same format. 256 is a larger file size, 
contains more information and is better.

HTH

On Nov 12, 2012, at 5:46 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

 I have a subscription to sky.fm  premium and decided to import some of their 
 stations into itunes. They offer 128kb aac and 256kb mp3 as the highest 
 quality feeds. I'm not familiar with 128kb aac. Does anybody have a thought 
 on which of these formats is highest quality?
 
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Re: Walter Isaacson's book for Steve Jobs in mp3 audio format.

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Umm, excuse me, but you're posting mp3s of a book that is for sale? really?

On Oct 29, 2011, at 7:34 PM, Nektarios Mallas wrote:

 Hi. 
 As I promised, here are the links to download the book in audio.
 Sorry for the delay.
 If you need anything else, let me know.
 
 links to download Steve Jobs book.
 part 1.
 http://www.sendspace.com/file/t5eb21
 part 2.
 http://www.sendspace.com/file/1tk08y
 part 3.
 http://www.sendspace.com/file/sfno57
 
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Re: Steve Jobs Biography Reveals He Told Obama, 'You're Headed For A One-Term Presidency'

[Slau]

Chuck,

Please keep your religion and politics off the list for goodness' sake. You 
should know better than that.

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Re: iWork for iOS - Inaccessible/Unuseable with VoiceOver

[Slau]

You're submitting this to accessibil...@apple.com, obviously, right?

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Re: Part 1 of Pro Tools Tutorial Now available.

[Slau Halatyn]

Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way in Pro Tools. One can move to the name 
fields within the Mix or Edit windows and Shift-click on the track name but it 
doesn't always work with voiceOver. It certainly works for sighted users but 
there's something about the way the mouse sometimes follows the cursor and 
other times, no matter what you do, it stays up at the Apple menu.

Slau

On Apr 15, 2011, at 2:57 PM, Colin M wrote:

 Hi Kevin!
 Good podcast!
 Now I do not know if this will work in protools but the way people can pick 
 nonconsuwncial items is!
 Go to the first track in the list!
 Then turn off cursor tracking [ vo+shift+f3 ]
 Then I lock the vo keys [ vo+semicolon ]
 From there I can scroll down  with just the down arrow and when I get to a 
 track I want [this is in Itunes by the way]
 I just press the command+space bar to select the track and so on until I've 
 selected all the ones I want!
 You can see what you've selected by just pressing f6!
 When you are done remember to turn on cursor tracking again!
 I'm not sure if you can use it or it might be to much flaffing around! :]
 But if you got a spare few min's have a play!
 Colin!
 Qapla!
 
 I'm far too bad for Heaven!
 The Devil is afraid I'll take his place!
 
 On 14 Apr 2011, at 05:13, Kevin Reeves wrote:
 
 Hey folks. I'm proud to announce that Part 1 of the Pro Tools Tutorial is 
 available for your consumption. Read all about it and grab it here at 
 http://www.kevinreeves.net/PT1. Thanks to Jason Dasent for his editing work. 
 Enjoy.
 
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Re: using voice over to read music notation

[Slau]

Hi Joanne,

There's nothing currently available that we know of that is accessible for 
notation on the Mac. I do know that Dancing Dots is working on getting the 
makers of a particular braille music program to work with VoiceOver. I'm sure 
the news will be posted on this list when it's ready.

Best,

Slau

On Mar 19, 2011, at 7:01 PM, Joanne Chua wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I'm a new Mac user. lots of the time still finding my way around the
 VO keys and other thing. it is definitely a new experience for me
 switching from PC to Mac. however, i have an enquiry, which i hope
 some of you might able to answer me.
 
 is there a way for voice over to read music notation on the mac? or,
 is there any 3rd party program that can compramise such?
 
 thanks alot for your help
 
 cheers
 
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Re: about to take the pro tools plunge

[Slau Halatyn]

Hi Yuma,

#1 recommendation is to join the P T Access list by sending a blank message to
ptaccess+subscr...@googlegroups.com

Slau

On Mar 15, 2011, at 7:51 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote:

 Hi list,
 
 Anyone got some extensive use of pro tools? I'm considering software only 
 exploration of the interface now, and add a control surface later on, but 
 right now my main interst would be sequencing. Has anyone gotten a usable 
 setup for this, and does midi customization work well in pro tools?
 
 
 Any insight greatly appreciated 
 
 Yuma 
 
 
 
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Re: Is the disappearance of Voice Over a unique problem, or do others have it, too?

[Slau]

For the first time ever, today I lost VoiceOver completely, for no apparent 
reason, but couldn't get it back no matter what I tried. I managed to quit Mail 
and reboot the MacBook Pro without VoiceOver and haven't seen anything unusual 
for the past few hours. Very strange. Console log reported a 111 KCG error for 
VoiceOver.

Slau

On Mar 14, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:

 Hi everyone,
 
 I am using Snow Leopard V 10.6.6 on a Mac Book with 4 GB/RAM. For reasons I 
 do not understand, I occasionally lose Voice Over, especially when I am using 
 Mail.
 
 Though the problem is not limited to Mail, Voice Over just seems to unload 
 itself, and the only thing I can do is repeatedly hit Command F5 until VO 
 decides to make an appearance.  Its disappearance is apparently random, i.e. 
 I can't make it disappear at will.
 
 Has anyone else encountered this problem?  If not, what might be causing it?  
 Any and all suggestions would be appreciated.
 
 My best to all of you,
 
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Re: unlabeled checkbox in Carbon Copy Cloner

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Even though VoiceOver sees this as being a checkbox, it doesn't appear as a 
checkbox to sighted users. It's an icon that is sort of a help icon. When one 
clicks on this help icon, it simply explains that the volume will be bootable. 
It does seem kind of redundant since CCC already indicates that the volume will 
be bootable in the text area that follows the supposed checkbox.

HTH,

Slau

On Mar 12, 2011, at 11:02 PM, Joseph Norton wrote:

 Hi list:
 
 In using Carbon Copy Cloner, I notice a check box which I cannot account for.
 
 After I select source and target, there is a check box which seems to have 
 the text, this volume will be bootable. When I check it, I get an alert 
 dialog saying the same thing.  However, I have done a backup with the box 
 unchecked and it booted anyway.
 
 Anyone know what this checkbox is for?
 
 Thanks!
 
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Re: FileMaker

[Slau]

I used to use FileMaker back in the early nineties and it was fully accessible. 
I'm sorry to say that, as of my most recent check of the demo version, 
FileMaker isn't accessible with voiceOver. Their Bento product is quite 
accessible and is considerably less expensive. It takes some experimentation to 
wrap one's head around how it works but I would imagine that reading the manual 
goes a long way toward explaining the program and how it organizes data.

Slau

On Mar 2, 2011, at 12:44 AM, Kevin Chao wrote:

 FileMaker seems to be well reviewed and respected as a database/server  app 
 on Mac OS X. 
 
 I'm getting it. I'm wondering if anyone has  experience with FileMaker  and 
 could provide pointers with  
 VoiceOver
 
 Thanks,
 
 Kevin
 
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astonished to see menu extra that is visible out of the box

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A few weeks ago, I was quite pleased to learn that the Apogee Maestro software 
that works with Apogee analog to digital converters is almost entirely 
accessible. Pretty much anything one would ever need to do with the interfaces 
can be done right from within the software.

Today, I received the Apogee Symphony Mobile card which is an Express 34 card 
that allows one to connect an Apogee Symphony interface directly to a MacBook 
Pro. In the documentation, there was some mention of a menu bar item and I paid 
no attention because I figured, as usual, it'll be a pain to navigate to it and 
it's not necessarily essential.

well, at some point, I meant to check my Airport status and pressed VO-m twice 
and was stunned to hear the words, PC card, menu. Can you believe it? A menu 
extra item that from a third party that actually shows up as a menu extra right 
out of the box?! Well, I do get the sense that Apogee and Apple have a close 
relationship and their software products are, after all, Mac only. Nice. Very 
cool.

Slau

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Re: astonished to see menu extra that is visible out of the box

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It is interesting. I have to say, there's something interesting going on 
between Apple and Apogee—some type of symbiosis.

Slau

On Feb 11, 2011, at 11:19 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

 Interesting. The operating system hasa bug where nonapple menus were not 
 accessible from the keyboard, wonder how this program got around that.
 On Feb 11, 2011, at 10:01 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 
 A few weeks ago, I was quite pleased to learn that the Apogee Maestro 
 software that works with Apogee analog to digital converters is almost 
 entirely accessible. Pretty much anything one would ever need to do with the 
 interfaces can be done right from within the software.
 
 Today, I received the Apogee Symphony Mobile card which is an Express 34 
 card that allows one to connect an Apogee Symphony interface directly to a 
 MacBook Pro. In the documentation, there was some mention of a menu bar item 
 and I paid no attention because I figured, as usual, it'll be a pain to 
 navigate to it and it's not necessarily essential.
 
 well, at some point, I meant to check my Airport status and pressed VO-m 
 twice and was stunned to hear the words, PC card, menu. Can you believe 
 it? A menu extra item that from a third party that actually shows up as a 
 menu extra right out of the box?! Well, I do get the sense that Apogee and 
 Apple have a close relationship and their software products are, after all, 
 Mac only. Nice. Very cool.
 
 Slau
 
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Re: very accessible translation software

[Slau Halatyn]

Well, not in real time like a chat thing or such. It is capable of multiple 
translation windows but it's not automated or anything. It's still a matter of 
typing into one pane while the other pane translates on the fly.

slau

On Feb 7, 2011, at 12:29 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

 lol. I am eating my words. I might try adn app at some point when I get 
 impatient. I use translation on google to hold conversations with people in 
 other languages. Can this app do something similar, that is translate what 
 they write in to english and translate what I write in to what ever language?
 On Feb 6, 2011, at 8:41 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 
 This actually uses the Google translation engine but it's pretty much 
 instantaneous. Very, very cool.
 
 On Feb 6, 2011, at 9:39 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 Cool. I use the google auto translate and have it bookmarked on my desktop  
 but that is slow and sometmes not acurate.
 On Feb 6, 2011, at 5:57 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 
 I've recently had a need to communicate with some folks overseas who don't 
 speak english and use the Cyrillic alphabet in their email messages. 
 Reading their emails with VoiceOver is impossible. Even if I did have the 
 Infovox Russian voice, I don't speak Russian.
 
 So I went out looking for a Translation application. I found one for 
 something like $29 and bought it after having communicated with the 
 developer to get them to make it accessible. Nothing came of it yet and I 
 suppose they'll do something at some point, we'll see.
 
 Anyway, it only just occurred to me to check out the app Store and lo and 
 behold, there's an app called Translate for $2.99 that is 100% 
 accessible. One tenth the price. Go figure. Oh well…
 
 At any rate, whoever needs a translation app, it's fabulous.
 
 Slau
 
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Re: Finding iTunes library

[Slau]

Unless you've created multiple libraries, it should always reside in your 
User/Music/iTunes Music folder.

HTH,

Slau

On Feb 5, 2011, at 9:31 PM, Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr. wrote:

 Hello all,
 
 My 
 iTunes library is reset every time there is an update to the software. I find 
 it hard to see and select my existing library with all of my past app and 
 iPhone backups.
 
 How can I find and use my old library?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Antonio
 
 
 
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very accessible translation software

[Slau Halatyn]

I've recently had a need to communicate with some folks overseas who don't 
speak english and use the Cyrillic alphabet in their email messages. Reading 
their emails with VoiceOver is impossible. Even if I did have the Infovox 
Russian voice, I don't speak Russian.

So I went out looking for a Translation application. I found one for something 
like $29 and bought it after having communicated with the developer to get them 
to make it accessible. Nothing came of it yet and I suppose they'll do 
something at some point, we'll see.

Anyway, it only just occurred to me to check out the app Store and lo and 
behold, there's an app called Translate for $2.99 that is 100% accessible. 
One tenth the price. Go figure. Oh well…

At any rate, whoever needs a translation app, it's fabulous.

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Re: very accessible translation software

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This actually uses the Google translation engine but it's pretty much 
instantaneous. Very, very cool.

On Feb 6, 2011, at 9:39 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

 Cool. I use the google auto translate and have it bookmarked on my desktop  
 but that is slow and sometmes not acurate.
 On Feb 6, 2011, at 5:57 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 
 I've recently had a need to communicate with some folks overseas who don't 
 speak english and use the Cyrillic alphabet in their email messages. Reading 
 their emails with VoiceOver is impossible. Even if I did have the Infovox 
 Russian voice, I don't speak Russian.
 
 So I went out looking for a Translation application. I found one for 
 something like $29 and bought it after having communicated with the 
 developer to get them to make it accessible. Nothing came of it yet and I 
 suppose they'll do something at some point, we'll see.
 
 Anyway, it only just occurred to me to check out the app Store and lo and 
 behold, there's an app called Translate for $2.99 that is 100% accessible. 
 One tenth the price. Go figure. Oh well…
 
 At any rate, whoever needs a translation app, it's fabulous.
 
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Re: a bit of help partitioning again

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I couldn't figure out how to do this even with sighted assistance. I cloned my 
drive and reformatted.

Slau

On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

 Ok I shrunk the bootcamp partition in windows but now there is a partition 
 that appears to be hidden called free space. I want that to go die and I want 
 to allocate that to my mac. How in the heck do I do this? I can't even remove 
 it no matter what I do.
 
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resizing partition with VoiceOver

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Has anyone successfully resized a partition on a drive with voiceOver? I've 
deleted a partition and now there's free space but I can't figure out a way to 
devote that free space to the existing and only partition on the drive. Hmm…

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Re: resizing partition with VoiceOver

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Hi Courtney,

Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to work for me. I had somebody take a look at 
the display and it appears that there isn't even a divider to visibly drag. I 
think I might just erase the disk. It'll be faster.

Cheers,

Slau

On Jan 27, 2011, at 8:14 PM, Courtney Curran wrote:

 Hi,
 I'll try my best to explain this, since I recently resized a partition.  In 
 disc utility under the partition tab, there should be a scroll area with some 
 unknowns. Those represent the partitions, just interact with that scroll 
 area, and select the unknown, then just press tab, and there should be edit 
 fields where the partition can be edited, (titled and resized).
 HTH,
 Courtney
 On Jan 27, 2011, at 8:10 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 
 Has anyone successfully resized a partition on a drive with voiceOver? I've 
 deleted a partition and now there's free space but I can't figure out a way 
 to devote that free space to the existing and only partition on the drive. 
 Hmm…
 
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Re: Is Voiceover supposed to automatically save graphic labels?

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I've noticed that labeling is inconsistent. I've certainly labeled graphics 
(and VoiceOver is supposed to save them automatically) and, upon reopening the 
program (say, after a reboot), the labels are often gone.

Slau

On Jan 22, 2011, at 9:58 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

 Haven't used this much, but yes, once you label something, it should 
 automatically save.
 On Jan 22, 2011, at 4:23 PM, Victor Tsaran wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 I was just playing with graphics labeler with Voiceover in XCode and
 noticed that after I reopened the program, all the labels were gone.
 Is that how this feature of Voiceover supposed to work? Is there a
 shortcut key I am missing to save those labels or is XCode perhaps
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Fetch, Transmit CyberDuck

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I've been using Transmit for a while now and, for the first time, I've 
encountered a server that didn't play too well with it. So I downloaded 
Cyberduck. I find it to be fairly good although the upload/download status 
isn't visible. I also downloaded a trial of Fetch which I find to be somewhat 
less accessible although probably useable. Is there any other client that 
anyone knows of that seems to work well with VoiceOver?

Cheers,

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Re: pro tools

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Send a message to ptaccess+subscr...@googlegroups.com


HTH,

Slau

On Jan 10, 2011, at 9:22 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote:

 Hi listers:
 There was once talk of a group being formed for blind pro tools users.  
 Anyone know if there is such a group, and where it might be found?  TIA for 
 any info.
 
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Re: How to add apps to the doc

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Hey Kevin,
In addition to what Ann mentioned, when an application is running, go to the 
Dock and navigate to the active application, bring up the contextual menu with 
Control-Option-m and choose Keep in Dock.

Cheers,

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Re: Using a Macbook/MacBook Pro as Primary Computer?

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Hi Brianna,

Mac Geek Gab did a poll of Mac users regarding battery life. It appears that 
the more you abuse the battery, the better it does. Draining the battery 
completely once in a while is certainly recommended but randomness in charging 
habits yields better battery life according to the numbers reported from a 
substantial user base.

Slau

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Re: Is there a go to a specific coordinate command in VoiceOver (fwd)

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Hey Jude,

Man, I can't help but comment that I never thought I'd quote a Beatles lyric 
like that… Anyway…

This is great, of course. I've emailed her already because a particular 
important aspect of being able to position a mouse pointer is to be able to do 
it relative to window rather than screen. If one person's window is in a 
different position than another's, the coordinates will be different. Anyway, 
I'm not sure if this utility has that functionality or how difficult it would 
be to implement. We'll see what she says.

Best,

Slau

On Dec 16, 2010, at 10:38 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote:

 
 
 
 
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 Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 09:36:08
 From: Theresa Ford theresa.f...@gmail.com
 To: Jude DaShiell jdash...@shellworld.net
 Cc: louiem...@wavecable.com
 Subject: Re: Is there a go to a specific coordinate command in VoiceOver 
 (fwd)
 
 Jude,
 
 I did a simple utility for you that moves the mouse to a specific X Y
 coordinate on the screen.
 It is VoiceOver compatible.
 I also uploaded the source for the others working on applications in
 case they want
 to include the feature.
 
 http://www.cattail.nu/mac/move_mouse/
 
 You'll likely have to forward this back to your list to get to the right 
 people.
 
 - T
 
 On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 3:33 AM, Jude DaShiell jdash...@shellworld.net 
 wrote:
 
 
 
 
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 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 22:36:49
 From: louie louiem...@wavecable.com
 Reply-To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Is there a go to a specific coordinate command in
 VoiceOver
 
 Check out:
 URL=http://www.hamsoftengineering.com/codeSharing/MouseTools/MouseTools.html
 I have been working on a screen explore for voice over.
 I could use some help on this project.
 
 
 On Dec 15, 2010, at 7:04 PM, Slau wrote:
 
 Hey Chuck,
 
 No, there's currently no way to enter that coordinate information. The
 only thing that can be done is moving the mouse pointer and constantly
 querying VoiceOver. It's a feature I requested long ago. In fact, I had
 requested the feature that allowed one to query the position relative to
 window as opposed to position on screen. However, they didn't implement the
 second request which was to be able to manually enter coordinates.
 
 QuicKeys will absolutely work in any window. The trick is positioning the
 pointer first which is the key.
 
 Best,
 
 Slau
 
 On Dec 15, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Chuck Reichel wrote:
 
 Hi Listers,
 I am looking for a Go to a specific coordinate command in VoiceOver?
 ,
 Is there a specific command in VoiceOver to tell the cursors to go to say
 9 inches over and 5 inches down?
 I haven't found it in VoiceOver?
 I know VoiceOver will announce the position by hitting mouse location
 twice VO f5
 I need to get to a screen position in Avids ProTools plugin window that
 VO won't read!
 There is a Load button for waves tool bar that has to be accessed to
 get to the Presets to load them.
 I already tried mouse keys even after 96 clicks to the right and 96
 clicks down LOL several times the load button wont click!
 I am not sure Quickeys operates inside the PT Plugin window!
 any thoughts?
 Thanks
 
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Re: Is there a go to a specific coordinate command in VoiceOver

[Slau]

Hey Chuck,

No, there's currently no way to enter that coordinate information. The only 
thing that can be done is moving the mouse pointer and constantly querying 
VoiceOver. It's a feature I requested long ago. In fact, I had requested the 
feature that allowed one to query the position relative to window as opposed to 
position on screen. However, they didn't implement the second request which was 
to be able to manually enter coordinates.

QuicKeys will absolutely work in any window. The trick is positioning the 
pointer first which is the key.

Best,

Slau

On Dec 15, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Chuck Reichel wrote:

 Hi Listers,
 I am looking for a Go to a specific coordinate command in VoiceOver?
 ,
 Is there a specific command in VoiceOver to tell the cursors to go to say 9 
 inches over and 5 inches down?
 I haven't found it in VoiceOver?
 I know VoiceOver will announce the position by hitting mouse location twice 
 VO f5
 I need to get to a screen position in Avids ProTools plugin window that VO 
 won't read!
 There is a Load button for waves tool bar that has to be accessed to get to 
 the Presets to load them.
 I already tried mouse keys even after 96 clicks to the right and 96 clicks 
 down LOL several times the load button wont click!
 I am not sure Quickeys operates inside the PT Plugin window!
 any thoughts?
 Thanks
 
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Re: Navigation in Preview

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Hi Frank,

I didn't see this thread earlier but I thought I'd respond. Yeah, it's 
maddening how VoiceOver keeps reading from the top. One method that will work 
for setting a placeholder is to use a hot spot. If, for example, you 
Command-Tab over to Pro Tools or something, pressing the VO-hot spot number 
will take you directly back to the spot you left in Preview. It's not the best 
but it does work.

HTH,

Slau

On Dec 6, 2010, at 6:48 PM, Frank Carmickle wrote:

 Hi
 
 So I tried pages.  It does work much better..  I was able to switch away and 
 come back and still be in the same place.  That is until I asked it to read 
 all and it took me to the top of the document.  This is driving me mad.  
 Anyone know how to get around this one?
 
 Thanks
 --FC
 
 
 On Dec 6, 2010, at 1:10 PM, Frank Carmickle wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 On Dec 6, 2010, at 11:21 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote:
 
 Frank:
 Can you put it into pages?
 
 Sure.  Actually I had put it in to text edit and similar troubles were found 
 when switching away and back again.  I'll try pages.
 
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Re: how do i use the hot spots feature in voice over?

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Trahern,

1. Navigate to any field, object or control you wish to set as a hot spot.
2. Use VO-Shift-with 1 through 0 on the numbers row to set a hot spot.

Once you've set a hot spot, you can use VO plus the number to instantly move 
the focus to and speak the status of the hot spot. If you want VoiceOver to 
read the hot spot without navigating to it, use VO-Command and the number. If 
you want VoiceOver to automatically speak the contents of the hot spot whenever 
it changes, use VO-Command-Shift and the number.

HTH,

Slau

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 hey guys can any one tell me how to use the hot spots feature in voice
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 your help with this question would be most welcom!!
 
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Re: how do i use the hot spots feature in voice over?

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Hi Ezzy,

I'm not sure if I understand your question, exactly. Think of it as having 10 
points available to you, anywhere on your Mac, in any application. You can use 
any number hot spot in any application but you can't use number 1 twice, that 
is, in one application and also another application at the same time.

If you wish to change a hot spot, you needn't necessarily delete the old hot 
spot. You can simply set a new one with the same number and now that'll be the 
new hot spot for that particular number. If, however, you simply wish to get 
rid of a hot spot, pressing VO and the hot spot number a second time will 
unassign that hot spot.

HTH,

Slau

On Nov 30, 2010, at 11:36 AM, Ezzy Bueno wrote:

 Hello Slau,
 
 I can use the same number on different wccbsites, right? For example, I can 
 use the number 1 as a hot spot for Twitter and Facebook, right?
 How do I get rid of a hot spot if I no longer need it?
 
 Ezzy
 
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 Subject: Re: how do i use the hot spots feature in voice over?
 
 Trahern,
 
 1.  Navigate to any field, object or control you wish to set as a hot spot.
 2.  Use VO-Shift-with 1 through 0 on the numbers row to set a hot spot.
 
 Once you've set a hot spot, you can use VO plus the number to instantly move 
 the focus to and speak the status of the hot spot.  If you want VoiceOver to 
 read the hot spot without navigating to it, use VO-Command and the number.  
 If you want VoiceOver to automatically speak the contents of the hot spot 
 whenever it changes, use VO-Command-Shift and the number.
 
 HTH,
 
 Slau
 
 On Nov 29, 2010, at 11:12 PM, trahern culver wrote:
 
 hey guys can any one tell me how to use the hot spots feature in voice
 over?
 
 your help with this question would be most welcom!!
 
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Re: how do i use the hot spots feature in voice over?

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Hi Ester,

Just one thing, hot spots are actually persistent through reboots, FYI. Cheers!

Slau

On Nov 30, 2010, at 1:20 PM, Esther wrote:

 Hi Ezzy,
 
 Ezzy Bueno wrote:
 
 I can use the same number on different wccbsites, right? For example, I can 
 use the number 1 as a hot spot for Twitter and Facebook, right?
 How do I get rid of a hot spot if I no longer need it?
 
 
 I'll add a little more information to Slau's excellent response to explain 
 hot spots.  Hot spots are meant to be used for temporary purposes. They don't 
 persist if you log out of your account, or quit an app, or restart your 
 machine.  A good example of setting a hot spot would be if you're reading a 
 book or document in Preview, but need to switch to another application for a 
 while, but want to return to the same reading location.  Although Preview 
 lets you set bookmarks, and you can also return to the app by switching 
 through your currently active apps with Command-Tab, this only gets you back 
 to the same page that you were reading.  If you want to return to the same 
 point on the page, you would set a hot spot before you left the page, and 
 then use the command to return to that hot spot when you got back to the app.
 
 Hot spots can also only take you to places that VoiceOver can navigate to. 
 It's possible to use other accessibility features of the Mac, such as Mouse 
 Keys, to move your mouse cursor position independently of VoiceOver.  I've 
 used this to play sound samples on the Audible web site, by figuring out how 
 many pixels to move from a control that VoiceOver does recognize to get to 
 the player controls and click.  (This keeps changing, incidentally, as they 
 re-design their web pages).  You can't save this position as a hotspot, 
 because VoiceOver doesn't know how to get there independently.  The hot spot 
 is basically a temporary snapshot of your use configuration in an app.
 
 As far as easily getting to different web sites, such as the ones for Twitter 
 or Facebook with a single keystroke, Safari will already let you do that.  If 
 you bookmark a web page with Command+D, and use VO+Space to press the pop up 
 menu for the location to be saved, then select  Bookmarks Bar, you'll be 
 able to access the first 9 bookmark entries by pressing Command+the number of 
 the bookmark.  So in Safari, Command+1 takes you to the location of the first 
 bookmark on your Bookmarks Bar, Command+2 takes you to the location of the 
 second bookmark on the the Bookmarks Bar, etc.  The only thing to watch out 
 for is that when you add bookmarks to the Bookmarks Bar, your newest bookmark 
 becomes the first bookmark, and all the others get bumped up by one.
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Nov 30, 2010, at 07:07, Slau wrote:
 
 Hi Ezzy,
 
 I'm not sure if I understand your question, exactly. Think of it as having 
 10 points available to you, anywhere on your Mac, in any application. You 
 can use any number hot spot in any application but you can't use number 1 
 twice, that is, in one application and also another application at the same 
 time.
 
 If you wish to change a hot spot, you needn't necessarily delete the old hot 
 spot. You can simply set a new one with the same number and now that'll be 
 the new hot spot for that particular number. If, however, you simply wish to 
 get rid of a hot spot, pressing VO and the hot spot number a second time 
 will unassign that hot spot.
 
 HTH,
 
 Slau
 
 On Nov 30, 2010, at 11:36 AM,
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Slau s...@mindspring.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Date sent: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 09:09:09 -0500
 Subject: Re: how do i use the hot spots feature in voice over?
 
 Trahern,
 
 1.  Navigate to any field, object or control you wish to set as a hot spot.
 2.  Use VO-Shift-with 1 through 0 on the numbers row to set a hot spot.
 
 Once you've set a hot spot, you can use VO plus the number to instantly 
 move the focus to and speak the status of the hot spot.  If you want 
 VoiceOver to read the hot spot without navigating to it, use VO-Command and 
 the number.  If you want VoiceOver to automatically speak the contents of 
 the hot spot whenever it changes, use VO-Command-Shift and the number.
 
 HTH,
 
 Slau
 
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Re: how accsesabel iare the current versions of protools?

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Hi Trahern,

Please post your question on the Pro Tools Access list. There, you'll get very 
specific answers to your questions and the list is dedicated to all things 
related to Pro Tools accessibility with VoiceOver. Send a message to:
ptaccess+subscr...@googlegroups.com.

Thanks,

Slau

On Nov 25, 2010, at 9:43 PM, trahern culver wrote:

 hey guys i am looking to make electronic music with my mac.
 
 i want to use protools to do this but how accsesabel are the current
 versions of protools? which version is the most accsesabel? and which
 one would be best for what i want to do?
 
 your help with these questions would be most welcome!!
 
 kind regards trahern.Hi 
 
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accessibility of Adobe Audition

[Slau Halatyn]

As some of you might already know, Adobe recently released its public beta for 
Audition for Mac, a relatively popular digital audio workstation originally for 
Windows. It's most often used for basic multitrack recording, editing and audio 
restoration. Most people working in the post-production world who are on 
Windows use this program and, by all accounts, it's quite a mature program.

Well, it's no surprise, having come from Adobe, that the program is not at all 
accessible. Now, with Pro Tools being quite accessible, I have no interest in 
Audition but, of course, it's nice to have options and, frankly, all programs 
should be accessible. Anyway, my personal attention has always been and will 
continue to be focused on Pro Tools. If there's anyone on the list who would 
like to contact Adobe regarding the accessibility of Audition, I think it would 
be a good idea, if only to remind them of accessibility as a serious 
consideration. I suppose it wouldn't hurt to mention how Pro Tools and Logic 
have come along. Perhaps it won't amount to anything in the end, I don't know, 
but perhaps it might lead to an alternative. Again, having options is good.

Slau

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Re: PT accessibility was RE: accessibility of Adobe Audition

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Chris,

I'll gladly answer your questions and I'm sure others might have something to 
offer but, for a few good reasons, it would be much more beneficial for you to 
join the Pro Tools Access mailing list and let's have the conversation there. 
Please do me a favor and repost this message there. To subscribe, send a 
message to ptaccess+subscr...@googlegroups.com.

Thanks so much,

Slau

On Nov 24, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Chris Harrington wrote:

 Hi,
 Was wanting to start a topic of PT Accessibility, but since we're already
 talking about it, I actually had some questions about it.
 How much can you do with protools? Can you do automation, audio, midi,
 different plugins, things like that? Also, I'm doing a career center program
 for audio production, and they're using PT8. I've been trying to get them to
 use 8.1, but my teacher doesn't seem to want to go through the process of
 updating. I feel that is unfair to me, because it feels like all I'm there
 for is to give people musical substance for their projects if that makes any
 sense... I play all the music, while they're doing everything in Protools.
 It's really aggravating and I'm considering dropping the course... I don't
 want to take it out on my teacher, he's tried working with me to make sure I
 get some of the substance, but it's just really pissing me off that all I
 can do is pretty much sit their when the music's done, and wait for them to
 edit. Then if they do something wrong, then I want to fix it but can't...
 lol.
 OK, I'm done ranting, any insights you all can give would be great!!!
 Chris Harrington
 
 http://www.c-harrington.com
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cameron
 Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 12:00 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: accessibility of Adobe Audition
 
 Hi Slau.  that is a shame, but, I'm not surprised.
 
 Along those same lines, I've investigated both reaper and studio 1 from
 Presonus and didn't have any luck with either.
 
 Also, cuebase and digital performer aren't accessible, but that is old news
 at this point.
 
 It's a shame.
 
 Cameron.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
 Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 9:48 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: accessibility of Adobe Audition
 
 As some of you might already know, Adobe recently released its public beta
 for Audition for Mac, a relatively popular digital audio workstation
 originally for Windows. It's most often used for basic multitrack recording,
 editing and audio restoration. Most people working in the post-production
 world who are on Windows use this program and, by all accounts, it's quite a
 mature program.
 
 Well, it's no surprise, having come from Adobe, that the program is not at
 all accessible. Now, with Pro Tools being quite accessible, I have no
 interest in Audition but, of course, it's nice to have options and, frankly,
 all programs should be accessible. Anyway, my personal attention has always
 been and will continue to be focused on Pro Tools. If there's anyone on the
 list who would like to contact Adobe regarding the accessibility of
 Audition, I think it would be a good idea, if only to remind them of
 accessibility as a serious consideration. I suppose it wouldn't hurt to
 mention how Pro Tools and Logic have come along. Perhaps it won't amount to
 anything in the end, I don't know, but perhaps it might lead to an
 alternative. Again, having options is good.
 
 Slau
 
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Re: Stickies?

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Stickies visually emulates what so many people sometimes do with sticky notes: 
they literally stick them right on the screen. If the program is running, the 
notes will be visible on screen. They do have an option for transparency so 
people can leave them up and not be too distracted. I don't know of any 
reminder functionality. I suppose it might be useful but I think it's really 
meant to emulate a real sticky note stuck to the screen. You can create 
multiple notes and save them. When you launch the program, all of the notes 
appear. You can cycle through them with Command-` (accent). I use Stickies all 
the time just to jot down quick bits of information for later transfer to 
whatever area is appropriate. For example, while it's possible to enter a 
contact into Address Book, it's often way too inefficient, especially if one 
needs to use some customized fields and change work/home settings, etc. Now, I 
haven't tried this but, if Stickies could detect data like address or date to 
be able to bring up a contextual menu to add to Address Book or create new 
ical event, that would rock.

Slau

On Nov 24, 2010, at 4:20 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I've just discovered Stickies, the app for sticky-notes. It seems that it's 
 simply a notepad for jotting down this or that. Am I missing something, or 
 does it not have a way to set up reminders with popup windows and that sort 
 of thing? Does one just leave the text window open till the task is done?
 
 TIA,
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Re: quick garage band question

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Into which area, exactly, does one paste a copied file?

On Nov 21, 2010, at 1:31 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

 Hi,
 
 In the new garageband, the media browser is no longer needed.  You can copy 
 the file from the finder and paste it directly into the project.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
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 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Nov 21, 2010, at 7:22 AM, f10r14n wrote:
 
 Hi, that should work yeah. I haven't messed with getting additional
 loops though, except for jam packs but those are autoimported.
 
 chad baker schreef:
 Hi does anyone know how to import loops in garage band i purchased samples 
 and it said drag and drop.
 can i just bring them in using the media browser?
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Re: quick garage band question

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Ah, and here I am, over-thinking things. I'll have to spend some time with it. 
Things have come a long way since I last had a look.

Cheers,

Slau

On Nov 22, 2010, at 9:46 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

 Good morning Slau,
 
 Literally anywhere.  Once you have copied the file to the clipboard from your 
 finder, go back to garageband.  use the arrow keys or option arrow to find 
 the position on the timeline you would like to place the audio file and 
 paste.  You can be anywhere in the garage band application.  The track info 
 area, media browser, loop browser, a transport control, etc.
 
 hth  
 
 Ricardo Walker
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 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Nov 22, 2010, at 9:29 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 
 Into which area, exactly, does one paste a copied file?
 
 On Nov 21, 2010, at 1:31 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 In the new garageband, the media browser is no longer needed.  You can copy 
 the file from the finder and paste it directly into the project.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
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 Hi, that should work yeah. I haven't messed with getting additional
 loops though, except for jam packs but those are autoimported.
 
 chad baker schreef:
 Hi does anyone know how to import loops in garage band i purchased 
 samples and it said drag and drop.
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Re: Music Notation software

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Even on the windows side of things, dancing Dots no longer develops the scripts 
for Sibelius which is now up to version 6. The last accessible version through 
scripts was for version 3.x. There was someone developing open source scripts 
for version 5 but I'm not sure where that currently stands. Notation is 
especially difficult to deal with from an accessibility standpoint. What made 
it a bit easier in sibelius was the fact that there was a sort of control panel 
that displayed all of the parameters for the current note position, that is, 
pitch, duration, position in measure, articulation,etc. What made it possible 
to have JaWS speak the various parameters was, of course, the scripting. 
Unfortunately, the whole success rested on having all the windows positioned 
just so and if anything was moved or out of place, there would be errors. Also, 
if a new version came out, many things were broken and people were chronically 
left behind in terms of versions.

I have to say, it's one of those things that's sorely missing for blind users 
in general but especially on the Mac side of things.

Slau

On Nov 14, 2010, at 5:16 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

 I've also asked the midi mag list and no one can come up with a solution. You 
 can't be telling me I have to go back to windows to write especially since I 
 lost my midi drives for my old oxygen keyboard.
 
 S
 On Nov 14, 2010, at 6:20 AM, David Hole wrote:
 
 Hi folks.
 I asked the same question a little month ago, but I didn't get any response.
 Maybe anyone have tried Sibelius 6 on the Mac?
 Btw, Sarah, which kind of choir music are you into? (You can mail me 
 off-list if ye wish :) )
 -David
 
 Den 14.11.2010 03:58, skrev Sarah Alawami:
 I would also like ot know that. I want to get writing choir music again. 
 I've got so much in my head I want to get out there.
 
 S
 On Nov 13, 2010, at 6:49 PM, Joshua Loya wrote:
 
 Hello my fellow Mac loving musicians,
 What options, if any, are there for music notation software on the Mac? I 
 know a lot of sighted people who use Finale, but I haven't messed with it, 
 and I haven't touched music notation since I lost my sight, with the 
 exception of a very basic primer in braille music. I know that Dancing 
 Dots has some solutions on the Windows side, but I would really prefer to 
 keep things Mac centric around here.
 
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Re: garage band 11 some simple step by steps?

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Keep in mind, also, that there's a hardware controller specifically made for 
GarageBand which, I think, is made by M-Audio but I don't recall for sure. At 
any rate, it used to be sold in the Apple Store so there would be a good place 
to look first. Its layout is modeled after the GarageBand interface and it's 
just a little quicker to reach for a hardware control sometimes rather than 
navigating the interface with a screen reader. It's not that expensive either—I 
seem to recall it being somewhere around $99 or even less.

HTH,

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Re: Recording Project

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Hey Kevin,

You should post this on the PTAccess list. Avid does keep an eye on that forum 
and I think it would be nice for them to see some of the fruits of their work.

Best,

Slau

On Nov 7, 2010, at 11:25 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote:

 Yes, ProTools is accessible for most things. Is it worth the buy? That 
 depends on your application. If you're looking to record professionally or 
 semi-professionally, it's the way to go. Take into account the fact that 
 ProTools is industry standard, and knowing the platform gives one an 
 advantage when they are looking for work.
 
 If all you are doing is putting podcasts together and experimenting at home 
 with creating music, there may be other accessible tools that can accomplish 
 the tasks required for less money. Garage Band and Logic are making strides 
 and there choice is beginning to emerge for the blind when it comes to audio 
 production.
 
 Hope this helps,
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Folks,

The Discuss mailing list at MacVisionaries.com has not been in use for a couple 
of years but, because of a strange quirk, I keep getting any email addressed to 
that address. If you have a moment, please delete it from your Address Book and 
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Re: audio recording on the mac

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Well, to further your research, check out the PTAccess list at Google Groups 
where there are people using the current version of Pro Tools which is, in 
fact, quite accessible.

Cheers

On Aug 31, 2010, at 11:22 AM, Robert Hooper wrote:

 I am a Windows user who recently decided to try switching to a Mac. I don’t 
 yet have the new Mac computer, but I thought I’d ask a few questions 
 regardless.
 On windows, there exists many audio recording solutions (many of them 
 inaccessible to JAWS). I have been using Cakewalk Sonar 8.5 Producer with the 
 CateTalking scripts from Dancing Dots. It is an amazing, if expensive, 
 solution and I have had few problems with it thus far. Is there currently any 
 accessible recording software that roughly paralleles the features found in 
 Sonar? I am aware that Mac can run the famous ProTools software, but my 
 research says that that is still inaccessible. I still have a PC around on 
 which I can continue recording projects, and I plan to use Bootcamp to 
 install and run Windows on the Mac, should I ever need it. Any thoughts or 
 suggestions would be appreciated.
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Re: audio recording on the mac

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Just a little correction: it's currently version 8.1 and the first version 
which featured accessibility improvements was 8.0.4.

On Aug 31, 2010, at 11:40 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

 Your research is in error.  Pto-Tools is now accessible on the Mac.  It's 
 version 8.4.  Is it perfect?  No, but, it certainly is possible to use it.  
 YOu need a control surface to use it.  Now, if you don't really need the top 
 of the line, amadeus Pro will do quite nicely.  
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!!
 
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 On Aug 31, 2010, at 10:22 AM, Robert Hooper wrote:
 
 I am a Windows user who recently decided to try switching to a Mac. I don’t 
 yet have the new Mac computer, but I thought I’d ask a few questions 
 regardless.
 On windows, there exists many audio recording solutions (many of them 
 inaccessible to JAWS). I have been using Cakewalk Sonar 8.5 Producer with the 
 CateTalking scripts from Dancing Dots. It is an amazing, if expensive, 
 solution and I have had few problems with it thus far. Is there currently any 
 accessible recording software that roughly paralleles the features found in 
 Sonar? I am aware that Mac can run the famous ProTools software, but my 
 research says that that is still inaccessible. I still have a PC around on 
 which I can continue recording projects, and I plan to use Bootcamp to 
 install and run Windows on the Mac, should I ever need it. Any thoughts or 
 suggestions would be appreciated.
 SmilesJ
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Re: please remove disc...@macvisionaries from your addresses

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Well, if you joined after it was moved to Google Groups, of course, you 
wouldn't have that in your Address Book. It's a vestige from a few years ago 
but surprisingly won't die.

On Aug 31, 2010, at 12:23 PM, Pete Nalda wrote:

 Hmm.  That's the first time I've ever seen that address.  This is the only 
 one I've ever posted to.
 
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 The Discuss mailing list at MacVisionaries.com has not been in use for a 
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Re: syrinx question

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Hey Amber,

Have you considered using Nambu?

Slau

On Aug 4, 2010, at 11:04 AM, Amber Pearcy wrote:

 Good morning everyone,
 
 I have recently started to use Syrinx for my Twitter activities on the Mac.  
 I like it overall, but there is one thing that confuses me.  After a certain 
 point on my timeline, I stop seeing tweets and start seeing direct messages 
 and mentions.  This is keeping me from seeing some of my older timeline 
 entries.  Is there any method of hiding the direct messages and mentions so 
 that I will just see a continuous timeline of tweets?  I've searched the 
 menus and toolbar but to no avail.  Hoping someone has already figured this 
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Re: Friendly Hello And Introduction

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Hey Kevin,

Have you joined the Pro Tools Access email list at googleGroups already? If you 
haven't, just wanted to make sure you knew about it.

Slau
 
On Jul 20, 2010, at 8:05 PM, Kevin Shaw wrote:

 Greetings fellow Mac users,
 
 My name is Kevin Shaw and I've just joined the MV list. I've got a Macbook 
 Pro, an iPhone and iMac and I'm really enjoying being back on the Mac 
 platform after swimming for years in shark-infested waters.
 
 I've just completed a Masters thesis on using Voiceover and ProTools to 
 record a five piece rock band. You can expect to hear more about this once I 
 defend my research in August. 
 
 I'm looking forward to getting to know you guys and learning about some 
 things on the Mac, such as AppleScript and possibly some more advanced 
 programming features.
 
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Re: alias

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Yes, aliases can be moved and they'll still work. Not sure, however, if that 
applies across different volumes though. Won't have a chance to test that until 
later.

Slau

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 if you move them, will they still open the files?
 
 GF
 
 
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 An alias is simply a small file that points to another file. Much like 
 shortcuts to files on a Windows desktop, they can be used to point to other 
 documents or applications. Opening an alias opens the file it points to 
 elsewhere in the file system.
 
 HTH,
 
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Re: alias

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And guess what? Aliases do work across volumes. So, providing that volume is 
mounted, an alias can point to a file on an external drive or drive mounted on 
a network volume. Cool.

Slau

On Jul 9, 2010, at 11:10 AM, clarence griffin wrote:

 oh, ok. so its just like a short cut in windows. cool. 
 thanks.
 
 GF
 
 
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 Yes, aliases can be moved and they'll still work. Not sure, however, if that 
 applies across different volumes though. Won't have a chance to test that 
 until later.
 
 Slau
 
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 if you move them, will they still open the files?
 
 GF
 
 
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 An alias is simply a small file that points to another file. Much like 
 shortcuts to files on a Windows desktop, they can be used to point to 
 other documents or applications. Opening an alias opens the file it points 
 to elsewhere in the file system.
 
 HTH,
 
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Re: Move addict now completely accessible

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Hi Jon,

I don't know that the developer would necessarily get into creating a System 
Preference pane now that he's completed the application in it's current form, 
although it's entirely possible he might consider it in the future. I suppose 
it would be a question for him if someone's interested in asking. Personally, I 
think this application, which runs in the background, does essentially one 
thing and does it seamlessly and transparently so I don't feel it's something 
that requires a preference pane in System Preferences. Once the couple of 
parameters are set, I doubt anyone would have a reason to change them.

That said, creating an alias would probably work just fine. It's not something 
that someone could create on a given system and share with others since it's 
specific to the paths of a given OS file system. Creating an alias, though, is 
a very simple thing and, now that it's an easy prospect to simply move the 
alias with MoveAddict, one can create the alias within the Resources folder, 
cut it and paste it to the Applications folder. I'll give it a test run and, if 
it doesn't work, I'll report back.

Slau

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 Perhaps the developer could add a system preferences panel to make it
 easier to control rather then the contorted opening of the package
 contents.  In the mean time, perhaps creating an alias of the
 preferences program and dropping that into the applications directory
 might work for some ease.  I don't remember enough about how HFS
 aliases work, but [perhaps somebody could create a alias and post it
 to the list to prevent contortions by  folks while attempting to find
 the preference applcation.
 
 Best,
 
 Jon
 
 
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 Since the menu bar portion is not accessible, it is possible to gain access
 to a few features by bringing up the contextual menu on the application
 itself and examining the package contents. There, if you go to the Resources
 folder and open the file named MoveAddict Preferences.app, the preferences
 window for MoveAddict will open.
 
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Re: Move addict now completely accessible

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Hi Ray,

MoveAddict is a utility application that, once installed, runs in the 
background and simply supports functionality that allows one to cut and paste 
files within the Finder. Normally, files are copied and pasted, then the 
original is deleted. A sighted user can simply drag a file to move it but, 
until drag  drop is implemented successfully, the only option for VoiceOver 
users is to copy and paste. Now, with MoveAddict, it's possible to simply cut 
and paste.

HTH,

Slau

On Jul 8, 2010, at 3:25 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

 What exactly is Moveaddict?
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
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 On Jul 8, 2010, at 12:56 PM, Slau wrote:
 
 Hi Jon,
 
 I don't know that the developer would necessarily get into creating a System 
 Preference pane now that he's completed the application in it's current 
 form, although it's entirely possible he might consider it in the future. I 
 suppose it would be a question for him if someone's interested in asking. 
 Personally, I think this application, which runs in the background, does 
 essentially one thing and does it seamlessly and transparently so I don't 
 feel it's something that requires a preference pane in System Preferences. 
 Once the couple of parameters are set, I doubt anyone would have a reason to 
 change them.
 
 That said, creating an alias would probably work just fine. It's not 
 something that someone could create on a given system and share with others 
 since it's specific to the paths of a given OS file system. Creating an 
 alias, though, is a very simple thing and, now that it's an easy prospect to 
 simply move the alias with MoveAddict, one can create the alias within the 
 Resources folder, cut it and paste it to the Applications folder. I'll give 
 it a test run and, if it doesn't work, I'll report back.
 
 Slau
 
 On Jul 8, 2010, at 8:46 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
 
 Perhaps the developer could add a system preferences panel to make it
 easier to control rather then the contorted opening of the package
 contents.  In the mean time, perhaps creating an alias of the
 preferences program and dropping that into the applications directory
 might work for some ease.  I don't remember enough about how HFS
 aliases work, but [perhaps somebody could create a alias and post it
 to the list to prevent contortions by  folks while attempting to find
 the preference applcation.
 
 Best,
 
 Jon
 
 
 On 06/07/2010, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 Since the menu bar portion is not accessible, it is possible to gain access
 to a few features by bringing up the contextual menu on the application
 itself and examining the package contents. There, if you go to the 
 Resources
 folder and open the file named MoveAddict Preferences.app, the 
 preferences
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Re: alias

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An alias is simply a small file that points to another file. Much like 
shortcuts to files on a Windows desktop, they can be used to point to other 
documents or applications. Opening an alias opens the file it points to 
elsewhere in the file system.

HTH,

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Re: Move addict now completely accessible

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Annie,

To activate it:
1. copy your license number.
2. Navigate to MoveAddict in your Applications folder.
3. Bring up the contextual menu with Control-Option-m and select View Package 
Contents.
4. In the Contents window, navigate to the Resources folder and find the 
application named MoveAddict Preferences and open it.
5. Navigate to theabout tab and you'll find the License button which will 
open a window with a field for your email address and a field for your license 
number.

Note that there seems to be a dialog box that sometimes appears. The last image 
in the window, I suppose, is an OK button of some type. route the mouse to the 
image and do a mouse click.

HTH,

Slau

On Jul 7, 2010, at 12:10 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:

 Hi.
 
 Try press the paypale button only with space, that worked for me, and
 you will be directed to the paypale page, and there you can pay.
 
 I have also bought this application, but I can not find out how to
 activate, I hope some of you can help.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 
 2010/7/7, annelie robledo acer2...@gmail.com:
 Help.
 
 I downloaded the application but I can't figure out how to pay for it. I
 click on pay pal but it won't tke me there. What am I missing?
 On Jul 5, 2010, at 11:14 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:
 
 Hi list,
 
 After a few back and forth mails, the developer of move addict has made
 his application completely accessible.
 
 Move addict allows the user to cut and paste system wide and in finder, as
 an add-on.
 
 Here is the link:
 http://www.macworld.com/reviews/product/563803/review/moveaddict.html
 
 
 The guy is pretty cool, and took this endeavor seriously So i suggest you
 guys help him continue to make software with a conscious approach to
 accessibility. And moveaddict rocks anyway :)
 
 Cheers
 
 
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Re: Move addict now completely accessible

[Slau]

Ah, yes, of course, in this case, a restart is required for MoveAddict to work 
in the first place.

Slau

On Jul 7, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:

 Hi again.
 
 I have godt it to work, but it requred a restart.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 
 2010/7/7, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com:
 Hi Slau.
 
 I can not open the prefferences application, I have also tried with
 VOiceOver turned of. I can not hear the tabs, so I can find the about
 tab. Is there a solution for that.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 
 2010/7/7, Slau s...@mindspring.com:
 Annie,
 
 To activate it:
 1. copy your license number.
 2. Navigate to MoveAddict in your Applications folder.
 3. Bring up the contextual menu with Control-Option-m and select View
 Package Contents.
 4. In the Contents window, navigate to the Resources folder and find the
 application named MoveAddict Preferences and open it.
 5. Navigate to theabout tab and you'll find the License button which
 will
 open a window with a field for your email address and a field for your
 license number.
 
 Note that there seems to be a dialog box that sometimes appears. The last
 image in the window, I suppose, is an OK button of some type. route the
 mouse to the image and do a mouse click.
 
 HTH,
 
 Slau
 
 On Jul 7, 2010, at 12:10 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
 
 Hi.
 
 Try press the paypale button only with space, that worked for me, and
 you will be directed to the paypale page, and there you can pay.
 
 I have also bought this application, but I can not find out how to
 activate, I hope some of you can help.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 
 2010/7/7, annelie robledo acer2...@gmail.com:
 Help.
 
 I downloaded the application but I can't figure out how to pay for it.
 I
 click on pay pal but it won't tke me there. What am I missing?
 On Jul 5, 2010, at 11:14 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:
 
 Hi list,
 
 After a few back and forth mails, the developer of move addict has
 made
 his application completely accessible.
 
 Move addict allows the user to cut and paste system wide and in
 finder,
 as
 an add-on.
 
 Here is the link:
 http://www.macworld.com/reviews/product/563803/review/moveaddict.html
 
 
 The guy is pretty cool, and took this endeavor seriously So i suggest
 you
 guys help him continue to make software with a conscious approach to
 accessibility. And moveaddict rocks anyway :)
 
 Cheers
 
 
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Re: Move addict now completely accessible

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I guess you'll have to contact the developer about that.

On Jul 7, 2010, at 6:17 PM, Courtney Curran wrote:

 Hi,
 I found how to buy it, and I bought it. But when I copy my license in, it 
 keeps saying invalid license, I'm sure I copied and pasted it right.
 Courtney
 On Jul 7, 2010, at 2:51 PM, Slau wrote:
 
 Ah, yes, of course, in this case, a restart is required for MoveAddict to 
 work in the first place.
 
 Slau
 
 On Jul 7, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
 
 Hi again.
 
 I have godt it to work, but it requred a restart.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 
 2010/7/7, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com:
 Hi Slau.
 
 I can not open the prefferences application, I have also tried with
 VOiceOver turned of. I can not hear the tabs, so I can find the about
 tab. Is there a solution for that.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 
 2010/7/7, Slau s...@mindspring.com:
 Annie,
 
 To activate it:
 1. copy your license number.
 2. Navigate to MoveAddict in your Applications folder.
 3. Bring up the contextual menu with Control-Option-m and select View
 Package Contents.
 4. In the Contents window, navigate to the Resources folder and find the
 application named MoveAddict Preferences and open it.
 5. Navigate to theabout tab and you'll find the License button which
 will
 open a window with a field for your email address and a field for your
 license number.
 
 Note that there seems to be a dialog box that sometimes appears. The last
 image in the window, I suppose, is an OK button of some type. route the
 mouse to the image and do a mouse click.
 
 HTH,
 
 Slau
 
 On Jul 7, 2010, at 12:10 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
 
 Hi.
 
 Try press the paypale button only with space, that worked for me, and
 you will be directed to the paypale page, and there you can pay.
 
 I have also bought this application, but I can not find out how to
 activate, I hope some of you can help.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 
 2010/7/7, annelie robledo acer2...@gmail.com:
 Help.
 
 I downloaded the application but I can't figure out how to pay for it.
 I
 click on pay pal but it won't tke me there. What am I missing?
 On Jul 5, 2010, at 11:14 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:
 
 Hi list,
 
 After a few back and forth mails, the developer of move addict has
 made
 his application completely accessible.
 
 Move addict allows the user to cut and paste system wide and in
 finder,
 as
 an add-on.
 
 Here is the link:
 http://www.macworld.com/reviews/product/563803/review/moveaddict.html
 
 
 The guy is pretty cool, and took this endeavor seriously So i suggest
 you
 guys help him continue to make software with a conscious approach to
 accessibility. And moveaddict rocks anyway :)
 
 Cheers
 
 
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Re: Move addict now completely accessible

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Since the menu bar portion is not accessible, it is possible to gain access to 
a few features by bringing up the contextual menu on the application itself and 
examining the package contents. There, if you go to the Resources folder and 
open the file named MoveAddict Preferences.app, the preferences window for 
MoveAddict will open.

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Re: ACB Convention

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Hey Chris,

I'll be presenting a workshop on Pro Tools at the convention on Monday 
afternoon. It'll be great to catch up again.

Slau

On Jun 27, 2010, at 6:43 AM, Chris Snyder wrote:

 Hi ladies and gentlemen,
 I am one of the people who is unfortunate enough to live in the hottest state 
 in the US which I lovingly refer to as Arid Zona. Anyway, I am wondering if 
 any of you fine visionaries are planning to attend the ACB convention in my 
 hot city. If so, it might be fun to take a break from our safari, gather 
 round the firewire, and have some toast. Since it's hot though, perhaps we 
 might want to meet up on the dock and iChat over java and cookies. I would 
 have tried to come up with more mac programs, but not many deal with food. lol
 
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Re: cubase accsessability?

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This is the only place you'll get information about the accessibility of Pro 
Tools. Again, I'll have more information on Monday.

Slau

On Jun 25, 2010, at 4:59 PM, Michael Huckabay wrote:

 Wow verry cool sounding.  It will be intersting to see how much of pro tools 
 is excessible.  You wouldn't know where I could atane information on the 
 excessibility of pro tools at all? Just kerius thanks.
 On 2010-06-25, at 3:53 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 
 One of my contacts at Avid told me today that LE  M-Powered versions are 
 currently delayed because of driver issues. There's no official word about 
 exactly when they'll be released. I'll have more information after the 
 weekend.
 
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Re: cubase accsessability?

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Oops, MacVisionaries mail and PTAccess mail coming into the same folder. I 
meant the PTAccess List is the place specifically for info about Pro Tools 
accessibility.

Slau

On Jun 26, 2010, at 2:49 AM, Bryan Smart wrote:

 Please join our Google Group/list and ask questions.
 
 http://www.googlegroups.com/group/ptaccess
 
 Bryan 
 
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 Wow verry cool sounding.  It will be intersting to see how much of pro tools 
 is excessible.  You wouldn't know where I could atane information on the 
 excessibility of pro tools at all? Just kerius thanks.
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 currently delayed because of driver issues. There's no official word about 
 exactly when they'll be released. I'll have more information after the 
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Re: cubase accsessability?

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One of my contacts at Avid told me today that LE  M-Powered versions are 
currently delayed because of driver issues. There's no official word about 
exactly when they'll be released. I'll have more information after the weekend.

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Re: Pro Tools 8.0.4 is finally out

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Hey Clarence,

It's just an update from the Avid site. Cheers,

Slau

On Jun 11, 2010, at 10:44 AM, clarence griffin wrote:

 how do I upgrade? I have everything I need, I just need to get the update.
 
 GF
 
 
 On Jun 11, 2010, at 1:56 AM, Michael Huckabay wrote:
 
 I have pro tools software I just need to find the hard ware. So ya.
 On 2010-06-11, at 12:53 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 Nice! I'll be saving up for a simple version of said software and hardware. 
 My board is on its way out and it sucks to record or try to and you hear a 
 120hz humb.
 
 lol!
 On Jun 10, 2010, at 8:56 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 
 For what it's worth, Pro Tools version 8.0.4 is finally out. Stay tuned 
 for an announcement about an email list focusing on Pro Tools 
 accessibility with VoiceOver.
 
 Slau
 
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Pro Tools 8.0.4 is finally out

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For what it's worth, Pro Tools version 8.0.4 is finally out. Stay tuned for an 
announcement about an email list focusing on Pro Tools accessibility with 
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Re: any news on pro tools?

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Actually, there's voice feedback that they've worked on over a couple of years, 
apparently. I was almost one of the testers and it literally came down to a 
choice between the RADAR and Pro Tools while a RADAR demo system was being 
loaded onto a truck to be delivered to the studio. Anyway, there's still always 
that option for the future. PT is, of course, a completely different animal and 
serves a different purpose and transferring sessions from RADAR to Pro Tools 
continues to be a tedious prospect. Anyway…
On May 30, 2010, at 1:49 PM, Bryan Smart wrote:

 In a lot of ways, the Radar should be just accessible out of the box. Not in 
 terms that it will speak to you, but just for the fact that it has a physical 
 control for just about every function. It isn't a full DAW, but is mainly 
 just a multitrack digital recorder. The really popular thing about the Radar 
 is that, because of all of the physical controls, it is also a magnificent 
 machine for editing. I don't mean a cut and paste here and there, but, if you 
 have a project where you must slice it up in to many tiny pieces, and 
 reassemble all of those pieces in a different way, or manually edit timing 
 mistakes, and you've memorized all of the shortcut commands, then you can 
 edit at a speed that someone working with a mouse would never be able to 
 match. Oh, if only there were a full DAW like that. However, the mind 
 boggling amount of keyboard-based editing support from Pro Tools isn't too 
 far away from that goal. Pro Tools keyboard support is way deeper than even 
 highly keyboard-focused DAWs like Sonar and Logic.
 
 Bryan
 
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 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
 Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 1:33 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: any news on pro tools?
 
 Hi Frank,
 
 Yes, from what I understand, IZ Technologies has worked with a few blind 
 individuals to make the RADAR accessible. For those who don't know, the RADAR 
 was conceived as a replacement for analog multitrack recorders. It is widely 
 regarded in the audio industry as being perhaps the best sounding digital 
 recorder in terms of it's analog to digital conversion. You can contact them 
 directly to get more information regarding accessibility.
 
 HTH
 
 Slau
 
 On May 28, 2010, at 12:35 PM, Frank Carmickle wrote:
 
 Hi Slau
 
 On May 28, 2010, at 11:21 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 
 Hey Frank,
 
 I had the same Otari remote. Physical switches are nice but not really 
 practical these days unless you're tracking to a RADAR which, by the way, 
 is accessible.
 
 I was going to respond to you off list about this but I thought maybe 
 someone else might want to know about this as well.  I am very interested in 
 accessibility of the radar.  I have looked around on the web on many 
 occasions and have found nothing.  Please let me know how I can find out 
 more.
 
 Anyway, when tracking live bands, one would simply arm all the tracks with 
 one keyboard command so it's not really an issue. Further, a control 
 surface would simplify things to a large degree, for what it's worth.
 
 One keyboard command works for me.
 
 Level metering is via a numeric value that can toggle between no peak hold, 
 3 second peak hold and infinite peak hold with a clip indicator that can be 
 persistent if desired.
 
 Very good.
 
 Thanks again
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Re: any news on pro tools?

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This is a perfect question for Avid to answer. It's best to contact them 
directly since they can answer further question that might come up after your 
first question is answered.

Best,

Slau

On May 29, 2010, at 8:35 AM, Justin Thornton wrote:

 hi
 I have an interesting question
 which version of protools is the largest and comes with the most software
 this includes pluggins and vst instruments and so on
 thanks
 
 On May 28, 2010, at 8:30 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 
 Hi Gary,
 
 There are a couple of ways to record enable, solo or mute tracks. One is by 
 selecting a given track and pressing keyboard shortcuts. Another is to 
 navigate through tracks and setting the individual controls as needed. For 
 the most part, plug-ins are accessible including third party plug-ins. One 
 of the testers did have a problem with G
 TR but Waves is apparently aware of the issue.
 
 Slau
 
 On May 28, 2010, at 7:51 AM, Gary Readfern-Gray wrote:
 
 Hi does anyone know if the accessibility includes selecting a given
 track and then changing settings on that track such as arming mute
 solo etc? I'm assuming that these basics are covered. I'm asking
 because in Sonar/Logic you first focus the track you want to adjust
 and then there are keys for adjusting panning etc. However, in
 protools, I can't find a way to say go to track 19 or go to the track
 called bass. I'm sure I heard that the plugins are also going to be
 accessible? wow, that would be awesome! Does anyone know if that
 includes 3rd-party plugins? I have Waves GTR and if I could get access
 to that properly, I'd be in guitar heaven!
 
 G
 
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 Hi,
 I think it's Protools M Powered, I'll have to check.
 
 On 27/05/2010, at 10:33 in the Afternoon, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 
 For what it's worth, I have no idea what Pro Tools Essentials is. I can
 tell you categorically that Pro Tools HD, LE and M-Powered will be
 accessible. Pro Tools Essentials may or may not fall under that category.
 I have no idea, just to be clear.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Slau
 
 On May 27, 2010, at 7:46 PM, Courtney Curran wrote:
 
 Oh, thank you so much, I'll tell my reader. So for now, I'll just have
 someone help me with it until a couple weeks from now.
 I bought the one on disk, the $99 one that came with a mic, am I still
 entitled to a free download.
 Thanks so much,
 Courtney
 On 27/05/2010, at 7:09 in the Afternoon, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 
 version 8.0.4 will be the version that is accessible. You'll be entitled
 to a free download. Should be another couple of weeks.
 
 Slau
 
 On May 27, 2010, at 7:01 PM, Courtney Curran wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I just got Protools Friday, should it work with Snow Leopard and be
 accessible? I need it for my audio production class.
 Thanks,
 Courtney
 
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Re: any news on pro tools?

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Hi Gary,

There are a couple of ways to record enable, solo or mute tracks. One is by 
selecting a given track and pressing keyboard shortcuts. Another is to navigate 
through tracks and setting the individual controls as needed. For the most 
part, plug-ins are accessible including third party plug-ins. One of the 
testers did have a problem with G
TR but Waves is apparently aware of the issue.

Slau

On May 28, 2010, at 7:51 AM, Gary Readfern-Gray wrote:

 Hi does anyone know if the accessibility includes selecting a given
 track and then changing settings on that track such as arming mute
 solo etc? I'm assuming that these basics are covered. I'm asking
 because in Sonar/Logic you first focus the track you want to adjust
 and then there are keys for adjusting panning etc. However, in
 protools, I can't find a way to say go to track 19 or go to the track
 called bass. I'm sure I heard that the plugins are also going to be
 accessible? wow, that would be awesome! Does anyone know if that
 includes 3rd-party plugins? I have Waves GTR and if I could get access
 to that properly, I'd be in guitar heaven!
 
 G
 
 On 5/28/10, Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 I think it's Protools M Powered, I'll have to check.
 
 On 27/05/2010, at 10:33 in the Afternoon, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 
 For what it's worth, I have no idea what Pro Tools Essentials is. I can
 tell you categorically that Pro Tools HD, LE and M-Powered will be
 accessible. Pro Tools Essentials may or may not fall under that category.
 I have no idea, just to be clear.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Slau
 
 On May 27, 2010, at 7:46 PM, Courtney Curran wrote:
 
 Oh, thank you so much, I'll tell my reader. So for now, I'll just have
 someone help me with it until a couple weeks from now.
 I bought the one on disk, the $99 one that came with a mic, am I still
 entitled to a free download.
 Thanks so much,
 Courtney
 On 27/05/2010, at 7:09 in the Afternoon, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 
 version 8.0.4 will be the version that is accessible. You'll be entitled
 to a free download. Should be another couple of weeks.
 
 Slau
 
 On May 27, 2010, at 7:01 PM, Courtney Curran wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I just got Protools Friday, should it work with Snow Leopard and be
 accessible? I need it for my audio production class.
 Thanks,
 Courtney
 
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Re: any news on pro tools?

[Slau Halatyn]

I don't use a braille display. Also, the only instance where I need to refer to 
the screen reader while monitoring audio is when taking levels. At that point, 
I'm not really monitoring for sound, per se, just for signal so I simply dim 
the monitors, read the levels as necessary and then turn up the monitors again.

HTH

On May 28, 2010, at 10:06 AM, Frank Carmickle wrote:

 Hello
 
 I grabbed a echo audiofire 12 when they were on sale at Christmas time.  I 
 haven't even plugged it in to the mac yet.  I was trying to explore 
 garageband a bit but I didn't get very far with importing some wav files.  I 
 have found the learning curve with the mac to be high.  I hope that now that 
 I understand it a bit more jumping in to protools won't be to difficult.  I 
 am very interested to try PT with a braille display.  I hate listening to 
 audio and speech at the same time.  Slau have you had a chance to try PT with 
 a braille display?  If so how easy is it to get a quick look at what tracks 
 are armed?
 
 Take care
 --FC
 
 On May 28, 2010, at 8:30 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 
 Hi Gary,
 
 There are a couple of ways to record enable, solo or mute tracks. One is by 
 selecting a given track and pressing keyboard shortcuts. Another is to 
 navigate through tracks and setting the individual controls as needed. For 
 the most part, plug-ins are accessible including third party plug-ins. One 
 of the testers did have a problem with G
 TR but Waves is apparently aware of the issue.
 
 Slau
 
 On May 28, 2010, at 7:51 AM, Gary Readfern-Gray wrote:
 
 Hi does anyone know if the accessibility includes selecting a given
 track and then changing settings on that track such as arming mute
 solo etc? I'm assuming that these basics are covered. I'm asking
 because in Sonar/Logic you first focus the track you want to adjust
 and then there are keys for adjusting panning etc. However, in
 protools, I can't find a way to say go to track 19 or go to the track
 called bass. I'm sure I heard that the plugins are also going to be
 accessible? wow, that would be awesome! Does anyone know if that
 includes 3rd-party plugins? I have Waves GTR and if I could get access
 to that properly, I'd be in guitar heaven!
 
 G
 
 On 5/28/10, Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 I think it's Protools M Powered, I'll have to check.
 
 On 27/05/2010, at 10:33 in the Afternoon, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 
 For what it's worth, I have no idea what Pro Tools Essentials is. I can
 tell you categorically that Pro Tools HD, LE and M-Powered will be
 accessible. Pro Tools Essentials may or may not fall under that category.
 I have no idea, just to be clear.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Slau
 
 On May 27, 2010, at 7:46 PM, Courtney Curran wrote:
 
 Oh, thank you so much, I'll tell my reader. So for now, I'll just have
 someone help me with it until a couple weeks from now.
 I bought the one on disk, the $99 one that came with a mic, am I still
 entitled to a free download.
 Thanks so much,
 Courtney
 On 27/05/2010, at 7:09 in the Afternoon, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 
 version 8.0.4 will be the version that is accessible. You'll be entitled
 to a free download. Should be another couple of weeks.
 
 Slau
 
 On May 27, 2010, at 7:01 PM, Courtney Curran wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I just got Protools Friday, should it work with Snow Leopard and be
 accessible? I need it for my audio production class.
 Thanks,
 Courtney
 
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[Slau Halatyn]

Hey Frank,

I had the same Otari remote. Physical switches are nice but not really 
practical these days unless you're tracking to a RADAR which, by the way, is 
accessible.

Anyway, when tracking live bands, one would simply arm all the tracks with one 
keyboard command so it's not really an issue. Further, a control surface would 
simplify things to a large degree, for what it's worth.

Level metering is via a numeric value that can toggle between no peak hold, 3 
second peak hold and infinite peak hold with a clip indicator that can be 
persistent if desired.

Slau

On May 28, 2010, at 11:04 AM, Frank Carmickle wrote:

 Hello Slau
 
 I am concerned about how efficient I can be when tracking.  I used to record 
 using the remote for the Otari mx80 which had actual mini toggle switches for 
 track arming and play/record/repro.  I have actually found someone who can 
 build me a remote with real switches for around $5,000.  If I can have the 
 braille display cursor routing keys toggle the armed state and display the 
 state then I can have the same functionality but also get a braille display 
 out of the deal.  I guess I'm going to have to learn how to do some Apple 
 scripting.
 
 I plan on doing lots of live tracking with full bands where I feel as though 
 I will need to have a speedy way of knowing the track armed state with out 
 having to listen to 24 or 32 status messages.  I am really looking forward to 
 trying out the level monitoring.  Do they have a tone generator following the 
 amplitude or just a numeric value with a peek hold setup?
 
 Thanks for keeping us all informed.
 --FC
 
 
 On May 28, 2010, at 10:27 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 
 I don't use a braille display. Also, the only instance where I need to refer 
 to the screen reader while monitoring audio is when taking levels. At that 
 point, I'm not really monitoring for sound, per se, just for signal so I 
 simply dim the monitors, read the levels as necessary and then turn up the 
 monitors again.
 
 HTH
 
 On May 28, 2010, at 10:06 AM, Frank Carmickle wrote:
 
 Hello
 
 I grabbed a echo audiofire 12 when they were on sale at Christmas time.  I 
 haven't even plugged it in to the mac yet.  I was trying to explore 
 garageband a bit but I didn't get very far with importing some wav files.  
 I have found the learning curve with the mac to be high.  I hope that now 
 that I understand it a bit more jumping in to protools won't be to 
 difficult.  I am very interested to try PT with a braille display.  I hate 
 listening to audio and speech at the same time.  Slau have you had a chance 
 to try PT with a braille display?  If so how easy is it to get a quick look 
 at what tracks are armed?
 
 Take care
 --FC
 
 On May 28, 2010, at 8:30 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 
 Hi Gary,
 
 There are a couple of ways to record enable, solo or mute tracks. One is 
 by selecting a given track and pressing keyboard shortcuts. Another is to 
 navigate through tracks and setting the individual controls as needed. For 
 the most part, plug-ins are accessible including third party plug-ins. One 
 of the testers did have a problem with G
 TR but Waves is apparently aware of the issue.
 
 Slau
 
 On May 28, 2010, at 7:51 AM, Gary Readfern-Gray wrote:
 
 Hi does anyone know if the accessibility includes selecting a given
 track and then changing settings on that track such as arming mute
 solo etc? I'm assuming that these basics are covered. I'm asking
 because in Sonar/Logic you first focus the track you want to adjust
 and then there are keys for adjusting panning etc. However, in
 protools, I can't find a way to say go to track 19 or go to the track
 called bass. I'm sure I heard that the plugins are also going to be
 accessible? wow, that would be awesome! Does anyone know if that
 includes 3rd-party plugins? I have Waves GTR and if I could get access
 to that properly, I'd be in guitar heaven!
 
 G
 
 On 5/28/10, Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 I think it's Protools M Powered, I'll have to check.
 
 On 27/05/2010, at 10:33 in the Afternoon, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 
 For what it's worth, I have no idea what Pro Tools Essentials is. I 
 can
 tell you categorically that Pro Tools HD, LE and M-Powered will be
 accessible. Pro Tools Essentials may or may not fall under that 
 category.
 I have no idea, just to be clear.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Slau
 
 On May 27, 2010, at 7:46 PM, Courtney Curran wrote:
 
 Oh, thank you so much, I'll tell my reader. So for now, I'll just have
 someone help me with it until a couple weeks from now.
 I bought the one on disk, the $99 one that came with a mic, am I still
 entitled to a free download.
 Thanks so much,
 Courtney
 On 27/05/2010, at 7:09 in the Afternoon, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 
 version 8.0.4 will be the version that is accessible. You'll be 
 entitled
 to a free download. Should be another couple of weeks.
 
 Slau
 
 On May 27, 2010, at 7:01 PM, Courtney Curran wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I just got Protools Friday, should

Re: any news on pro tools?

[Slau Halatyn]

They're acessible in the sense that all automateable parameters are accessible. 
Some buttons, since they're not automateable, are not seen in the plug-ins 
window but can be accessed via a macro program like quicKeys (similar to Hot 
Spot Clicker).

HTH

Slau

On May 28, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Gary Readfern-Gray wrote:

 Brilliant, thanks Slau. So are you saying that the software
 instruments that ship with PT such as boom are accessible? I can't
 wait!
 
 G
 
 On 5/28/10, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey Frank,
 
 I had the same Otari remote. Physical switches are nice but not really
 practical these days unless you're tracking to a RADAR which, by the way, is
 accessible.
 
 Anyway, when tracking live bands, one would simply arm all the tracks with
 one keyboard command so it's not really an issue. Further, a control surface
 would simplify things to a large degree, for what it's worth.
 
 Level metering is via a numeric value that can toggle between no peak hold,
 3 second peak hold and infinite peak hold with a clip indicator that can be
 persistent if desired.
 
 Slau
 
 On May 28, 2010, at 11:04 AM, Frank Carmickle wrote:
 
 Hello Slau
 
 I am concerned about how efficient I can be when tracking.  I used to
 record using the remote for the Otari mx80 which had actual mini toggle
 switches for track arming and play/record/repro.  I have actually found
 someone who can build me a remote with real switches for around $5,000.
 If I can have the braille display cursor routing keys toggle the armed
 state and display the state then I can have the same functionality but
 also get a braille display out of the deal.  I guess I'm going to have to
 learn how to do some Apple scripting.
 
 I plan on doing lots of live tracking with full bands where I feel as
 though I will need to have a speedy way of knowing the track armed state
 with out having to listen to 24 or 32 status messages.  I am really
 looking forward to trying out the level monitoring.  Do they have a tone
 generator following the amplitude or just a numeric value with a peek hold
 setup?
 
 Thanks for keeping us all informed.
 --FC
 
 
 On May 28, 2010, at 10:27 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 
 I don't use a braille display. Also, the only instance where I need to
 refer to the screen reader while monitoring audio is when taking levels.
 At that point, I'm not really monitoring for sound, per se, just for
 signal so I simply dim the monitors, read the levels as necessary and
 then turn up the monitors again.
 
 HTH
 
 On May 28, 2010, at 10:06 AM, Frank Carmickle wrote:
 
 Hello
 
 I grabbed a echo audiofire 12 when they were on sale at Christmas time.
 I haven't even plugged it in to the mac yet.  I was trying to explore
 garageband a bit but I didn't get very far with importing some wav
 files.  I have found the learning curve with the mac to be high.  I hope
 that now that I understand it a bit more jumping in to protools won't be
 to difficult.  I am very interested to try PT with a braille display.  I
 hate listening to audio and speech at the same time.  Slau have you had
 a chance to try PT with a braille display?  If so how easy is it to get
 a quick look at what tracks are armed?
 
 Take care
 --FC
 
 On May 28, 2010, at 8:30 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 
 Hi Gary,
 
 There are a couple of ways to record enable, solo or mute tracks. One
 is by selecting a given track and pressing keyboard shortcuts. Another
 is to navigate through tracks and setting the individual controls as
 needed. For the most part, plug-ins are accessible including third
 party plug-ins. One of the testers did have a problem with G
 TR but Waves is apparently aware of the issue.
 
 Slau
 
 On May 28, 2010, at 7:51 AM, Gary Readfern-Gray wrote:
 
 Hi does anyone know if the accessibility includes selecting a given
 track and then changing settings on that track such as arming mute
 solo etc? I'm assuming that these basics are covered. I'm asking
 because in Sonar/Logic you first focus the track you want to adjust
 and then there are keys for adjusting panning etc. However, in
 protools, I can't find a way to say go to track 19 or go to the track
 called bass. I'm sure I heard that the plugins are also going to be
 accessible? wow, that would be awesome! Does anyone know if that
 includes 3rd-party plugins? I have Waves GTR and if I could get access
 to that properly, I'd be in guitar heaven!
 
 G
 
 On 5/28/10, Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 I think it's Protools M Powered, I'll have to check.
 
 On 27/05/2010, at 10:33 in the Afternoon, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 
 For what it's worth, I have no idea what Pro Tools Essentials is.
 I can
 tell you categorically that Pro Tools HD, LE and M-Powered will be
 accessible. Pro Tools Essentials may or may not fall under that
 category.
 I have no idea, just to be clear.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Slau
 
 On May 27, 2010, at 7:46 PM, Courtney Curran wrote:
 
 Oh, thank you so much, I'll tell my reader. So for now, I'll

Re: any news on pro tools?

[Slau Halatyn]

Hi Frank,

Yes, from what I understand, IZ Technologies has worked with a few blind 
individuals to make the RADAR accessible. For those who don't know, the RADAR 
was conceived as a replacement for analog multitrack recorders. It is widely 
regarded in the audio industry as being perhaps the best sounding digital 
recorder in terms of it's analog to digital conversion. You can contact them 
directly to get more information regarding accessibility.

HTH

Slau

On May 28, 2010, at 12:35 PM, Frank Carmickle wrote:

 Hi Slau
 
 On May 28, 2010, at 11:21 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 
 Hey Frank,
 
 I had the same Otari remote. Physical switches are nice but not really 
 practical these days unless you're tracking to a RADAR which, by the way, is 
 accessible.
 
 I was going to respond to you off list about this but I thought maybe someone 
 else might want to know about this as well.  I am very interested in 
 accessibility of the radar.  I have looked around on the web on many 
 occasions and have found nothing.  Please let me know how I can find out more.
 
 Anyway, when tracking live bands, one would simply arm all the tracks with 
 one keyboard command so it's not really an issue. Further, a control surface 
 would simplify things to a large degree, for what it's worth.
 
 One keyboard command works for me.
 
 Level metering is via a numeric value that can toggle between no peak hold, 
 3 second peak hold and infinite peak hold with a clip indicator that can be 
 persistent if desired.
 
 Very good.
 
 Thanks again
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[Slau Halatyn]

version 8.0.4 will be the version that is accessible. You'll be entitled to a 
free download. Should be another couple of weeks.

Slau

On May 27, 2010, at 7:01 PM, Courtney Curran wrote:

 Hi,
 I just got Protools Friday, should it work with Snow Leopard and be 
 accessible? I need it for my audio production class.
 Thanks,
 Courtney
 
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some accessible audio utilities

[Slau Halatyn]

Just thought I'd mention some very accessible audio utilities from Katsura 
Shareware. His Piano Tuner software is outstanding. Trials available.

http://www.katsurashareware.com/

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It's close man, it's close ;)

On May 27, 2010, at 7:10 PM, clarence griffin wrote:

 and I am drooling down my shirt waiting for it too. lol.
 
 GF
 
 
 On May 27, 2010, at 7:09 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 
 version 8.0.4 will be the version that is accessible. You'll be entitled to 
 a free download. Should be another couple of weeks.
 
 Slau
 
 On May 27, 2010, at 7:01 PM, Courtney Curran wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I just got Protools Friday, should it work with Snow Leopard and be 
 accessible? I need it for my audio production class.
 Thanks,
 Courtney
 
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Re: some accessible audio utilities

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If you think you have perfect pitch, this tuner will open your ears, I 
guarantee it. The Chromatic Tuner is also accessible and a lot cheaper—only $10.

Slau

On May 27, 2010, at 9:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

 Nice. will take a look. I don't tune pianos but maybr iy might help my almost 
 perfect pitch. lol. Hehahaha.
 On May 27, 2010, at 4:12 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 
 Just thought I'd mention some very accessible audio utilities from Katsura 
 Shareware. His Piano Tuner software is outstanding. Trials available.
 
 http://www.katsurashareware.com/
 
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Re: any news on pro tools?

[Slau Halatyn]

For what it's worth, I have no idea what Pro Tools Essentials is. I can tell 
you categorically that Pro Tools HD, LE and M-Powered will be accessible. Pro 
Tools Essentials may or may not fall under that category. I have no idea, just 
to be clear.

Cheers,

Slau

On May 27, 2010, at 7:46 PM, Courtney Curran wrote:

 Oh, thank you so much, I'll tell my reader. So for now, I'll just have 
 someone help me with it until a couple weeks from now.
 I bought the one on disk, the $99 one that came with a mic, am I still 
 entitled to a free download.
 Thanks so much,
 Courtney
 On 27/05/2010, at 7:09 in the Afternoon, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 
 version 8.0.4 will be the version that is accessible. You'll be entitled to 
 a free download. Should be another couple of weeks.
 
 Slau
 
 On May 27, 2010, at 7:01 PM, Courtney Curran wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I just got Protools Friday, should it work with Snow Leopard and be 
 accessible? I need it for my audio production class.
 Thanks,
 Courtney
 
 On 08/05/2010, at 9:01 in the morning, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:
 
 Thats great news. Perfect timing for me :)
 
 
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Re: an Imac and voiceover?

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Although Avid hasn't officially stated when 8.0.4 will be released, it's likely 
to be by the middle of June. Again, that's not official but probable.

Slau

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Re: contacts

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I believe David Pogue described the routine as:
Import into Thunderbird, export in Thunderbird then import into Mail. It worked 
for me but I did it a while ago so I don't remember other details. As I recall, 
it was extremely straight-forward.

HTH

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 I have found that my contacts have not ported over from Outlook express, even 
 when both the PC and Mac are on the network.  I'd really like to access them 
 from the Mac.  Is there a preferred way to import them to the Mac?
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Re: contacts

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Ah, perhaps with Outlook it is possible. I was using Outlook Express and it was 
probably not an option. You're probably right.

On May 22, 2010, at 7:39 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

 I think you can ejjxport as *.vcf in outlook can you not? I don't know as I 
 don't use that program anymore.
 
 Take care.
 
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 I believe David Pogue described the routine as:
 Import into Thunderbird, export in Thunderbird then import into Mail. It 
 worked for me but I did it a while ago so I don't remember other details. As 
 I recall, it was extremely straight-forward.
 
 HTH
 
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 Hi:
 I have found that my contacts have not ported over from Outlook express, 
 even when both the PC and Mac are on the network.  I'd really like to 
 access them from the Mac.  Is there a preferred way to import them to the 
 Mac?
 TIA
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Re: command to label stuff with vo? I forgot it

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Control-Option-/ (slash)
Keyboard Help is your friend: Control-Option-k

On May 19, 2010, at 6:41 PM, hank smith wrote:

 hello what is command to label stuff with vo?
 I forgot it
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Re: found VO scripts for logic

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brilliant. Can you post a link?

Cheers

On May 2, 2010, at 3:42 PM, Matthew Johnson wrote:

 hay all,
 
 Well about a year ago the RNIb comissioned a few programmers to write VO 
 scripts for logic. They then lost interest in the project, and the programmer 
 continued to get them to work. He's now basically giving them out to whoever 
 is interested and I'd be more than willing to pass them along to the group. 
 They apparently utilise quickkeys to get a lot of logic's functionality 
 working.
 
 Hope this is of use to someone
 MJ
 
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