Lion Zombie Document Mystery Solved - TidBITS
Hello, While this article is several years old, I am fairly confident that these behaviors of zombie windows being around behaves the same in Mohave. So if you are frustrated with windows that never die then read on for all the details. Jonathan > > https://tidbits.com/2012/05/23/lion-zombie-document-mystery-solved/ > <https://tidbits.com/2012/05/23/lion-zombie-document-mystery-solved/> > > Lion Zombie Document Mystery Solved > > 23 May 2012 > <https://tidbits.com/>Thoughtful, detailed coverage of everything Apple for > 28 years > and the TidBITS Content Network <https://tcn.tidbits.com/apple-pros/> for > Apple professionals > Although I’m the author of “Take Control of Using Lion > <http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/lion-using?pt=TB1128>,” I don’t actually > like Mac OS X 10.7 Lion very much; the book doesn’t express my biases > explicitly, but you can sense them clearly enough if you read attentively. > And one of the Lion features I dislike the most is Resume, which I privately > think of as “Zombies.” Resume comes in two parts: > > When you start up the computer, Lion wants to launch all the applications > that were running just before you previously shut it down. The same applies, > obviously, to restarting, or logging out and logging back in. > When you launch an application, Lion wants to open all the same documents and > windows that were open in that application when you previously terminated it. > I don’t like these behaviors because, to me, they fly directly in the face of > precisely what restarting the computer or quitting an application is for. I > like to quit an application exactly as a way of making that application close > all its windows and forget about all its open documents. I like to restart > the computer (very frequently) as a way of blowing out all the cobwebs, > clearing memory, and putting the computer into a fresh state, with no > applications running. I don’t want applications launching themselves > automatically (aside from the few utilities that I’ve designated as Login > Items in the Users & Groups preference pane), and I certainly don’t want > applications that are launched to reopen a bunch of stale windows and > documents from the past. > > In my book, I also explain how to take control of these features — which in > my case means turning them off. When I restart the computer or launch an > application, I want a clean slate, every time. Here’s how I get it: > > To prevent applications from relaunching at system startup time, you have to > take preventative measures at shutdown time: in the dialog that appears when > you shut down or restart or log out, uncheck the checkbox that says “Reopen > windows when logging back in.” Of course, this means you have to avoid > situations where that dialog doesn’t appear — especially because, until the > recently released 10.7.4 update, Lion would check that checkbox by default > even if you had previously unchecked it. But, thanks to that update, the > checkbox is now staying unchecked; I suppose I should be grateful to Apple > for small favors. > <https://tidbits.com/uploads/2012/05/Restart-dialog.png> > To prevent windows from bringing their documents and windows back from the > dead at launch time, uncheck “Restore windows when quitting and re-opening > apps” in the General preference pane. (That hyphen is Apple’s mistake, not > mine: Apple really does write “reopen” in one place and “re-opening” in > another.) It’s possible, instead, to use a third-party utility such as > TinkerTool to turn off this behavior for individual applications, as I > explained in “Lion Frustrations? Don’t Forget TinkerTool > <http://tidbits.com/article/12601>” (29 October 2011), but I prefer to turn > off this feature globally. > > <https://tidbits.com/uploads/2012/05/General-preference-pane.png> > However, there’s a mystery. Even though I’ve unchecked “Restore windows when > quitting and re-opening apps”, some applications still sometimes bring their > zombie windows back from the dead when I launch them. Until recently, I > hadn’t paid much attention to this mystery; I tended to shrug it off as more > of Lion’s inscrutable annoyance. After all, coming back from the dead is what > zombies do, so it didn’t surprise me that a few of them wouldn’t stay dead. I > just sighed and closed the spontaneous windows by hand. > > At the same time, though, it irked me that, while I was supposed to be > telling readers how to take control of Lion, I still couldn’t seem to get > full control of Lion myself. I mean, Lion has been around for a year, and I > still don’t have these issues straightened out? Shameful. > > A few days
RE: I need help getting from Lion to Sierra after reformatting my hard drive
Hi Jerry, Easy enough to do if you have the sierra installer! If you don’t then it’s trouble. Either way it’s going to involve wiping your entire machine back to out of the box state. Do you by any chance have the sierra installer app available and are able to create a USB Flash Drive installer. From: 'Jerry Mader' via MacVisionaries Sent: Sunday, 30 December 2018 2:12 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: I need help getting from Lion to Sierra after reformatting my hard drive Hello folks. I'm having some difficulty getting from the lion operating system to Sierra. I need to upgrade my Mac back to Sierra because I don't like High Sierra. It hasn't changed and they haven't fixed the dra and drop issue with voiceover. And it worked better for me with Sierra. So I'm wondering if there's a way to get Sierra again? Thank you. Jerry Mader -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
I need help getting from Lion to Sierra after reformatting my hard drive
Hello folks. I'm having some difficulty getting from the lion operating system to Sierra. I need to upgrade my Mac back to Sierra because I don't like High Sierra. It hasn't changed and they haven't fixed the dra and drop issue with voiceover. And it worked better for me with Sierra. So I'm wondering if there's a way to get Sierra again? Thank you. Jerry Mader -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Chrome Support Ended for Mountain Lion and Earlier
Good. Maybe now Google can make Chromevox use the Mac's menu bars and such controls that are native to the Mac, because as of right now it can't access menus in Chrome. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 7, 2016, at 3:17 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu <listse...@me.com> wrote: > > Remember, as of 1 April, Chrome is unsupported on Mountain Lion or Earlier, > or Windows Vista or earlier. > > End of an era. Even if it’s all Google’s fault. And Apple’s. And > Microsoft’s … > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Clean install of Mountain Lion and the possible effect n Bootcamp
Hi, I am selling my old MBP which has the OS Mountain Lion installed. If i do a clean install of the OS, will this damage the Windows7 Bootcamp partition? Many thanks in advance for any advice given. Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Clean install of Mountain Lion and the possible effect n Bootcamp
doing a clean install has never affected myBoot Camp Partition. David GriffithOn 07/03/2015 14:00, Graham wrote: Hi, I am selling my old MBP which has the OS Mountain Lion installed. If i do a clean install of the OS, will this damage the Windows7 Bootcamp partition? Many thanks in advance for any advice given. Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Mactubes with Lion
Hi, How do I use mactubes running lion on my white macbook? Have a blessed day. Stacey and GEB dog Kirk mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Mactubes with Lion
The first thing I did was label the unlabelled buttons. Press shift Vo H on each button to hear the help tag for each button, most will have one, then Copy what is said to the clipboard with shift VO C and then bring up the Voiceover Labeller by pressing VO / and then pasting in the contents of the help tag. You can label the vast majority of buttons with this method. This may help you get started. You also need to go to the menu bar and select quicktime as your output codec. David Griffith On 23/10/2014 17:41, Stacey Robinson wrote: Hi, How do I use mactubes running lion on my white macbook? Have a blessed day. Stacey and GEB dog Kirk mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Mactubes with Lion
David, Thanks. I'll start working on this tomorrow. Have a blessed day. Stacey and GEB dog Kirk mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net On Oct 23, 2014, at 4:30 PM, David Griffith wrote: The first thing I did was label the unlabelled buttons. Press shift Vo H on each button to hear the help tag for each button, most will have one, then Copy what is said to the clipboard with shift VO C and then bring up the Voiceover Labeller by pressing VO / and then pasting in the contents of the help tag. You can label the vast majority of buttons with this method. This may help you get started. You also need to go to the menu bar and select quicktime as your output codec. David Griffith On 23/10/2014 17:41, Stacey Robinson wrote: Hi, How do I use mactubes running lion on my white macbook? Have a blessed day. Stacey and GEB dog Kirk mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Tweaking Mountain Lion
Now for some smaller questions. In Mail (Mountain Lion) is it possible to simplify things and get rid of Smart Folders? Or at least have a setup like that used in Thunderbird where I only see my mail accounts in the left pane, open one and only see the associated mailboxes. I am not using a unified mailboxes there. Also in Thunderbird it has Local Folders to which emails can be moved to be stored on the local drive. If Mail uses that concept, does it have a similar name? Is Preview the archiving utility? Is it all one needs or is a 3rd party app like The Unarchiver needed? I have Voiceover set to my liking but when system related information is spoken, its I think using default settings. Can this be changed? Currently I use iTunes in Windows to backup my iPhone. How should I transfer this task over to the Mac? This is it for now, I hope. Thanks. From The Believer. . . . . . what if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: The end of all OS X Lion support, patches included, is likely just weeks away
At the moment, Apple supports Lion, which is two versions back. But Lion is the last version of OS X for many Macs, just as Snow Leopard was previously. In other words, it seems to have shifted from supporting one version prior to two versions. Perhaps that's intentional, perhaps not. Perhaps Apple will go back to supporting one version back, in which case it will support only Mavericks, or perhaps it will support two versions back, in which case it will be supporting Mountain Lion as well, but it will no longer support Lion. Or, perhaps it will give Lion users a bit more time, as it did with Snow Leopard, in which case it would be supporting three versions behind. Who knows? There's really no way to read Apple's support policy. Apple doesn't take appeasing security people very seriously, sadly. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: The end of all OS X Lion support, patches included, is likely just weeks away
Q: when they stop working on additional support, do they leave patches available as far as they last fixed them? Pulling the plug entirely wouldn't be very kind! Me. - Original Message - From: Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 10:53 AM Subject: Re: The end of all OS X Lion support, patches included, is likely just weeks away At the moment, Apple supports Lion, which is two versions back. But Lion is the last version of OS X for many Macs, just as Snow Leopard was previously. In other words, it seems to have shifted from supporting one version prior to two versions. Perhaps that's intentional, perhaps not. Perhaps Apple will go back to supporting one version back, in which case it will support only Mavericks, or perhaps it will support two versions back, in which case it will be supporting Mountain Lion as well, but it will no longer support Lion. Or, perhaps it will give Lion users a bit more time, as it did with Snow Leopard, in which case it would be supporting three versions behind. Who knows? There's really no way to read Apple's support policy. Apple doesn't take appeasing security people very seriously, sadly. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: The end of all OS X Lion support, patches included, is likely just weeks away
Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com wrote: At the moment, Apple supports Lion, which is two versions back. But Lion is the last version of OS X for many Macs, just as Snow Leopard was previously. In other words, it seems to have shifted from supporting one version prior to two versions. Perhaps that's intentional, perhaps not. Perhaps Apple will go back to supporting one version back, in which case it will support only Mavericks, or perhaps it will support two versions back, in which case it will be supporting Mountain Lion as well, but it will no longer support Lion. Or, perhaps it will give Lion users a bit more time, as it did with Snow Leopard, in which case it would be supporting three versions behind. Who knows? There's really no way to read Apple's support policy. Apple doesn't take appeasing security people very seriously, sadly. The best strategy is to run the latest version compatible with your hardware. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: The end of all OS X Lion support, patches included, is likely just weeks away
Hi! Do you think i have to buy a new mac when Yosemite comes out? I have a mac from mid 2011 but i am not sure if it will work well when the new os comes out. Maybe i just have to wait and see. /A 22 aug 2014 kl. 12:09 skrev Jason White ja...@jasonjgw.net: Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com wrote: At the moment, Apple supports Lion, which is two versions back. But Lion is the last version of OS X for many Macs, just as Snow Leopard was previously. In other words, it seems to have shifted from supporting one version prior to two versions. Perhaps that's intentional, perhaps not. Perhaps Apple will go back to supporting one version back, in which case it will support only Mavericks, or perhaps it will support two versions back, in which case it will be supporting Mountain Lion as well, but it will no longer support Lion. Or, perhaps it will give Lion users a bit more time, as it did with Snow Leopard, in which case it would be supporting three versions behind. Who knows? There's really no way to read Apple's support policy. Apple doesn't take appeasing security people very seriously, sadly. The best strategy is to run the latest version compatible with your hardware. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: The end of all OS X Lion support, patches included, is likely just weeks away
If your Mac was made in 2007 or later and has a discrete GPU, you ought to be alright. It's the poor sods with Intel GMA950 who are in real trouble, because 64-bit drivers were never made for it; that means that Lion, which although it was a 64-bit OS could still start a 32-bit kernel, was the last practical release of OS X that could run on that hardware. As to running Lion on older hardware, unfortunately the performance is horrible with limited amounts of RAM, which means that using Windows or Linux may very well be the only way to recover the hardware. That is, of course, if Lion is maintained at all; otherwise it's obviously going to be a requirement. It's nice to see Apple trying harder to upgrade older hardware, but ultimately they're a hardware company and they really don't care how old your OS is as long as you keep buying new stuff from them every five minutes. Also, as I've said before, I'm not very enthusiastic about Apple's current focus with OS X, which effectively appears to be to attract as much of the iOS-using population as possible. Yes, I know it's good business, but I'm not interested in making Apple more money, I'm interested in being a happy customer. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: The end of all OS X Lion support, patches included, is likely just weeks away
Should work just fine. At 08:26 AM 8/22/2014, you wrote: Hi! Do you think i have to buy a new mac when Yosemite comes out? I have a mac from mid 2011 but i am not sure if it will work well when the new os comes out. Maybe i just have to wait and see. /A 22 aug 2014 kl. 12:09 skrev Jason White ja...@jasonjgw.net: Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com wrote: At the moment, Apple supports Lion, which is two versions back. But Lion is the last version of OS X for many Macs, just as Snow Leopard was previously. In other words, it seems to have shifted from supporting one version prior to two versions. Perhaps that's intentional, perhaps not. Perhaps Apple will go back to supporting one version back, in which case it will support only Mavericks, or perhaps it will support two versions back, in which case it will be supporting Mountain Lion as well, but it will no longer support Lion. Or, perhaps it will give Lion users a bit more time, as it did with Snow Leopard, in which case it would be supporting three versions behind. Who knows? There's really no way to read Apple's support policy. Apple doesn't take appeasing security people very seriously, sadly. The best strategy is to run the latest version compatible with your hardware. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: The end of all OS X Lion support, patches included, is likely just weeks away
Ah, yes. Gregg Keizer writing for Computerworld and the disgraceful end of Apple as we know it. If it bleeds, it reads, eh? But I'll believe it when I see it. FWIW, my first plastic Mac will likely fall due to Apple's obsolescence, in which case it should run either Snow Leopard or Windows 7. I suppose that, if security is a concern, it will be Windows 7. Then the circle will be complete; that machine is where I started on Windows Vista, with the intention of moving to OS X for more than just development work. Gosh. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: The end of all OS X Lion support, patches included, is likely just weeks away
Apple's standard policy is to support the current OS and one version back. All else before is cut off with some very rare exceptions. At 08:22 PM 8/21/2014, you wrote: Ah, yes. Gregg Keizer writing for Computerworld and the disgraceful end of Apple as we know it. If it bleeds, it reads, eh? But I'll believe it when I see it. FWIW, my first plastic Mac will likely fall due to Apple's obsolescence, in which case it should run either Snow Leopard or Windows 7. I suppose that, if security is a concern, it will be Windows 7. Then the circle will be complete; that machine is where I started on Windows Vista, with the intention of moving to OS X for more than just development work. Gosh. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
The end of all OS X Lion support, patches included, is likely just weeks away
The end of all OS X Lion support, patches included, is likely just weeks away by MacDailyNews [cfsp key=adsense_336x280]Apple is working its way toward releasing OS X Mountain Lion [sic Mavericks] 10.9.5, very likely the last non-security update for the 10-month old operating system, Gregg Keizer reports for Computerworld. While Apple hasn't said -- it never does -- when it will release Mavericks 10.9.5, it's almost certain to be the last update that includes non-security bug fixes, the kind of performance and reliability improvements that Mac owners hunger for, or changes to existing features in the OS, Keizer reports. Both Lion (OS X 10.7) and Mountain Lion (10.8) reached x.x.5 and no further, for instance... [It's] likely that Apple will deliver Mavericks 10.9.5 some time in September. More important than the delivery date for the last non-security Mavericks refresh is the fact that the same day will also mark the end of security patches for 2011's Lion, or OS X 10.7, Keizer reports. Halting patches for OS X Lion customers would, of course, be painful -- and potentially risky -- for them, but Apple probably won't blink an eye. As of July, Lion accounted for just 10% of all versions of OS X in use, according to metrics company Net Applications. By the end of September, Lion's user share will be about 8%, assuming it continues to drop at the rate it has over the last six months. That will be less than half of Snow Leopard's share when Apple pulled its plug last year. -- Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: how to create a Mavericks installer USB drive using a mountain lion machine?
Hi Georgina and Sabahattin, Thanks so much. The problem is solved. Mavericks now runs freshly on my macbook. With ml and earlier, it was easy to simply unpack the big dmg file for the operating system, found in the downloaded app bundle. to a USB drive. This new way of doing it was unknown to me. This time I did not have to go through these hoops, but I'm definitely saving your messages for future use. I found out about an interesting change in disk utility in Mavericks, when compared to the older mountain lion version, just for those interested. In ml and earlier, if you booted from the recovery mac partition, command r after the chime while turning the computer on, then we could not delete the macintosh hd partition with disk utility, as long as it was still encrypted. The process was tedious. I used to have to boot up normally, turn of filevault, then let it do its decryption process which takes hours, and only then can you reboot into the recovery partition, and delete the macintosh partition from there. Now with Mavericks, this is different. Whether or not macintosh hd is encrypted, you can now wipe it using disk utility, before doing a reinstall from the recovery partition. Paul. On Aug 16, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Georgina Joyce g...@gena-j.me.uk wrote: Hello Paul, Yes you can. What you need to do. Go to your app store on the ML machine. Download Mavericks and when the installer starts, press cancel. Then you can provide a command line to write it to a USB stick greater than 7.9 Gb. Many of us did this when Mavericks first came out and discussed it here. So you can look through this list archives. Or just use your favourite search engine. I think there are a few utilities to automate the procedure, if that is what you want. In reading Mac World's guide. They suggest you should boot up your machine in recovery mode and use disk utility to attempt to repair the disk firstly to ensure it is functional. Article link below. However, you should be able to sort it out yourself, I suspect. The machine doesn't know your wireless access details. Either open up your wireless or use a ethernet cable to link the Pro to the router. http://www.macworld.com/article/2056543/installing-mavericks-our-complete-guide.html Good luck. Gena On 16 Aug 2014, at 20:06, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote: Dear listers, I have 2 machines, a mini and a macbook, where the macbook won't boot any longer. I'm now writing on my mac mini, which has Mountain Lion. I'd rather not yet update this machine to Mavericks, because I'm waiting for Yosemite. My macbook is indeed running Mavericks already. This afternoon, the Mavericks macbook somehow died. It won't boot. My wife tells me there's an infinite beach ball, and the system has been used so intensively, that I wanted to reinstall Mavericks anyway, and start anew. That is because my macbook had lion, mountain lion, and then I updated that to Mavericks, and the macbook deserves a fresh install. Unfortunately, the macbook won't boot anymore. I thought I would first restore my latest macbook time machine backup. This went, but failed before getting to 1 %. If I start up the macbook from its recovery partition and I then try to reinstall OS 10, it asks for my Apple ID, and it won't get passed that, even though there is a wifi connection according to my sighted wife. It keeps saying: signing in to the app store, for 15 minutes. Then I gave up on that. So now, I would like to create a Mavericks USB stick, and reinstall Mavericks from there. My macbook running Mavericks, won't boot, nor recover, so that machine is not an option to create the USB recovery drive with. I'll have to create a Mavericks USB recovery stick using my mac mini, which runs Mountain lion. From what I discovered, I can indeed create a recovery USB drive, using my mountain lion machine. I downloaded the Mavericks installer app, I downloaded the diskmaker program, but when I run disk maker, it tells me that it can only create a mountain lion USB recovery disk, and not one for Mavericks. This is because disk maker detected mountain lion running on the system. So, is there any way you can think of, that I can use to create a Mavericks USB bootable installer drive for Mavericks, using my mountain lion machine? I could update this mountain lion machine and be out of trouble right away. However, I bumped into numerous Mavericks issues that don't occur on my current mountain lion installation. So, if possible, I'd like to keep using ML for a few more months, until we have Yosemite. I'm very interested to hear your solution if there is one. Regards, Paul. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr
Re: how to create a Mavericks installer USB drive using a mountain lion machine?
I noticed that also and thought that's great. Kawal. On 18 Aug 2014, at 11:07 am, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Georgina and Sabahattin, Thanks so much. The problem is solved. Mavericks now runs freshly on my macbook. With ml and earlier, it was easy to simply unpack the big dmg file for the operating system, found in the downloaded app bundle. to a USB drive. This new way of doing it was unknown to me. This time I did not have to go through these hoops, but I'm definitely saving your messages for future use. I found out about an interesting change in disk utility in Mavericks, when compared to the older mountain lion version, just for those interested. In ml and earlier, if you booted from the recovery mac partition, command r after the chime while turning the computer on, then we could not delete the macintosh hd partition with disk utility, as long as it was still encrypted. The process was tedious. I used to have to boot up normally, turn of filevault, then let it do its decryption process which takes hours, and only then can you reboot into the recovery partition, and delete the macintosh partition from there. Now with Mavericks, this is different. Whether or not macintosh hd is encrypted, you can now wipe it using disk utility, before doing a reinstall from the recovery partition. Paul. On Aug 16, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Georgina Joyce g...@gena-j.me.uk wrote: Hello Paul, Yes you can. What you need to do. Go to your app store on the ML machine. Download Mavericks and when the installer starts, press cancel. Then you can provide a command line to write it to a USB stick greater than 7.9 Gb. Many of us did this when Mavericks first came out and discussed it here. So you can look through this list archives. Or just use your favourite search engine. I think there are a few utilities to automate the procedure, if that is what you want. In reading Mac World's guide. They suggest you should boot up your machine in recovery mode and use disk utility to attempt to repair the disk firstly to ensure it is functional. Article link below. However, you should be able to sort it out yourself, I suspect. The machine doesn't know your wireless access details. Either open up your wireless or use a ethernet cable to link the Pro to the router. http://www.macworld.com/article/2056543/installing-mavericks-our-complete-guide.html Good luck. Gena On 16 Aug 2014, at 20:06, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote: Dear listers, I have 2 machines, a mini and a macbook, where the macbook won't boot any longer. I'm now writing on my mac mini, which has Mountain Lion. I'd rather not yet update this machine to Mavericks, because I'm waiting for Yosemite. My macbook is indeed running Mavericks already. This afternoon, the Mavericks macbook somehow died. It won't boot. My wife tells me there's an infinite beach ball, and the system has been used so intensively, that I wanted to reinstall Mavericks anyway, and start anew. That is because my macbook had lion, mountain lion, and then I updated that to Mavericks, and the macbook deserves a fresh install. Unfortunately, the macbook won't boot anymore. I thought I would first restore my latest macbook time machine backup. This went, but failed before getting to 1 %. If I start up the macbook from its recovery partition and I then try to reinstall OS 10, it asks for my Apple ID, and it won't get passed that, even though there is a wifi connection according to my sighted wife. It keeps saying: signing in to the app store, for 15 minutes. Then I gave up on that. So now, I would like to create a Mavericks USB stick, and reinstall Mavericks from there. My macbook running Mavericks, won't boot, nor recover, so that machine is not an option to create the USB recovery drive with. I'll have to create a Mavericks USB recovery stick using my mac mini, which runs Mountain lion. From what I discovered, I can indeed create a recovery USB drive, using my mountain lion machine. I downloaded the Mavericks installer app, I downloaded the diskmaker program, but when I run disk maker, it tells me that it can only create a mountain lion USB recovery disk, and not one for Mavericks. This is because disk maker detected mountain lion running on the system. So, is there any way you can think of, that I can use to create a Mavericks USB bootable installer drive for Mavericks, using my mountain lion machine? I could update this mountain lion machine and be out of trouble right away. However, I bumped into numerous Mavericks issues that don't occur on my current mountain lion installation. So, if possible, I'd like to keep using ML for a few more months, until we have Yosemite. I'm very interested to hear your solution if there is one. Regards, Paul. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Re: how to create a Mavericks installer USB drive using a mountain lion machine?
there is also lion disk maker it also works for mavericks as well as mountain lion and lion disks didn't have to go threw all those extra steps it is also free ware hth Hank On 8/18/2014 3:38 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: I noticed that also and thought that's great. Kawal. On 18 Aug 2014, at 11:07 am, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Georgina and Sabahattin, Thanks so much. The problem is solved. Mavericks now runs freshly on my macbook. With ml and earlier, it was easy to simply unpack the big dmg file for the operating system, found in the downloaded app bundle. to a USB drive. This new way of doing it was unknown to me. This time I did not have to go through these hoops, but I'm definitely saving your messages for future use. I found out about an interesting change in disk utility in Mavericks, when compared to the older mountain lion version, just for those interested. In ml and earlier, if you booted from the recovery mac partition, command r after the chime while turning the computer on, then we could not delete the macintosh hd partition with disk utility, as long as it was still encrypted. The process was tedious. I used to have to boot up normally, turn of filevault, then let it do its decryption process which takes hours, and only then can you reboot into the recovery partition, and delete the macintosh partition from there. Now with Mavericks, this is different. Whether or not macintosh hd is encrypted, you can now wipe it using disk utility, before doing a reinstall from the recovery partition. Paul. On Aug 16, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Georgina Joyce g...@gena-j.me.uk wrote: Hello Paul, Yes you can. What you need to do. Go to your app store on the ML machine. Download Mavericks and when the installer starts, press cancel. Then you can provide a command line to write it to a USB stick greater than 7.9 Gb. Many of us did this when Mavericks first came out and discussed it here. So you can look through this list archives. Or just use your favourite search engine. I think there are a few utilities to automate the procedure, if that is what you want. In reading Mac World's guide. They suggest you should boot up your machine in recovery mode and use disk utility to attempt to repair the disk firstly to ensure it is functional. Article link below. However, you should be able to sort it out yourself, I suspect. The machine doesn't know your wireless access details. Either open up your wireless or use a ethernet cable to link the Pro to the router. http://www.macworld.com/article/2056543/installing-mavericks-our-complete-guide.html Good luck. Gena On 16 Aug 2014, at 20:06, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote: Dear listers, I have 2 machines, a mini and a macbook, where the macbook won't boot any longer. I'm now writing on my mac mini, which has Mountain Lion. I'd rather not yet update this machine to Mavericks, because I'm waiting for Yosemite. My macbook is indeed running Mavericks already. This afternoon, the Mavericks macbook somehow died. It won't boot. My wife tells me there's an infinite beach ball, and the system has been used so intensively, that I wanted to reinstall Mavericks anyway, and start anew. That is because my macbook had lion, mountain lion, and then I updated that to Mavericks, and the macbook deserves a fresh install. Unfortunately, the macbook won't boot anymore. I thought I would first restore my latest macbook time machine backup. This went, but failed before getting to 1 %. If I start up the macbook from its recovery partition and I then try to reinstall OS 10, it asks for my Apple ID, and it won't get passed that, even though there is a wifi connection according to my sighted wife. It keeps saying: signing in to the app store, for 15 minutes. Then I gave up on that. So now, I would like to create a Mavericks USB stick, and reinstall Mavericks from there. My macbook running Mavericks, won't boot, nor recover, so that machine is not an option to create the USB recovery drive with. I'll have to create a Mavericks USB recovery stick using my mac mini, which runs Mountain lion. From what I discovered, I can indeed create a recovery USB drive, using my mountain lion machine. I downloaded the Mavericks installer app, I downloaded the diskmaker program, but when I run disk maker, it tells me that it can only create a mountain lion USB recovery disk, and not one for Mavericks. This is because disk maker detected mountain lion running on the system. So, is there any way you can think of, that I can use to create a Mavericks USB bootable installer drive for Mavericks, using my mountain lion machine? I could update this mountain lion machine and be out of trouble right away. However, I bumped into numerous Mavericks issues that don't occur on my current mountain lion installation. So, if possible, I'd like to keep using ML for a few more months, until we have Yosemite. I'm very interested to hear your
Re: how to create a Mavericks installer USB drive using a mountain lion machine?
Yep, the reason for that you can't use Disk Utility to repartition is that it doesn't yet support manipulating CoreStorage groups, which is what FileVault-encrypted volumes and Fusion Drives are made from. So if you have one of these, you have to drop to the command line to delete the CoreStorage group before you can go back to partitioning with Disk Utility. In your case though, erasing the volume was perfectly sufficient to get you reinstalled, so you should be fine. Cheers, Sabahattin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: how to create a Mavericks installer USB drive using a mountain lion machine?
This can be done, yes, but it's a bit tougher because the tool that Mavericks supplies for creating media only itself runs on Mavericks, rather unhelpfully. In summary, what you must do is restore the base system disk image, BaseSystem.dmg, onto your freshly-formatted USB stick, and then copy over the packages in the installer. The BaseSystem.dmg file is inside the InstallESD.dmg file, itself inside the app bundle. Restore that image to your USB stick. Finally, delete the Packages alias from /System/Installation on your stick, and replace it with the Packages folder from your outer InstallESD.dmg image. If you like, when I've got more time, I could set up an environment with which to test and get you step-by-step directions. In the meantime, hopefully someone else can help you, but that's the face of it. Cheers, Sabahattin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: how to create a Mavericks installer USB drive using a mountain lion machine?
How accessible to VoiceOver is the Gmail App on Mavrix and IOS? Angus MacKinnon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
how to create a Mavericks installer USB drive using a mountain lion machine?
Dear listers, I have 2 machines, a mini and a macbook, where the macbook won't boot any longer. I'm now writing on my mac mini, which has Mountain Lion. I'd rather not yet update this machine to Mavericks, because I'm waiting for Yosemite. My macbook is indeed running Mavericks already. This afternoon, the Mavericks macbook somehow died. It won't boot. My wife tells me there's an infinite beach ball, and the system has been used so intensively, that I wanted to reinstall Mavericks anyway, and start anew. That is because my macbook had lion, mountain lion, and then I updated that to Mavericks, and the macbook deserves a fresh install. Unfortunately, the macbook won't boot anymore. I thought I would first restore my latest macbook time machine backup. This went, but failed before getting to 1 %. If I start up the macbook from its recovery partition and I then try to reinstall OS 10, it asks for my Apple ID, and it won't get passed that, even though there is a wifi connection according to my sighted wife. It keeps saying: signing in to the app store, for 15 minutes. Then I gave up on that. So now, I would like to create a Mavericks USB stick, and reinstall Mavericks from there. My macbook running Mavericks, won't boot, nor recover, so that machine is not an option to create the USB recovery drive with. I'll have to create a Mavericks USB recovery stick using my mac mini, which runs Mountain lion. From what I discovered, I can indeed create a recovery USB drive, using my mountain lion machine. I downloaded the Mavericks installer app, I downloaded the diskmaker program, but when I run disk maker, it tells me that it can only create a mountain lion USB recovery disk, and not one for Mavericks. This is because disk maker detected mountain lion running on the system. So, is there any way you can think of, that I can use to create a Mavericks USB bootable installer drive for Mavericks, using my mountain lion machine? I could update this mountain lion machine and be out of trouble right away. However, I bumped into numerous Mavericks issues that don't occur on my current mountain lion installation. So, if possible, I'd like to keep using ML for a few more months, until we have Yosemite. I'm very interested to hear your solution if there is one. Regards, Paul. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: how to create a Mavericks installer USB drive using a mountain lion machine?
Hello Paul, Yes you can. What you need to do. Go to your app store on the ML machine. Download Mavericks and when the installer starts, press cancel. Then you can provide a command line to write it to a USB stick greater than 7.9 Gb. Many of us did this when Mavericks first came out and discussed it here. So you can look through this list archives. Or just use your favourite search engine. I think there are a few utilities to automate the procedure, if that is what you want. In reading Mac World's guide. They suggest you should boot up your machine in recovery mode and use disk utility to attempt to repair the disk firstly to ensure it is functional. Article link below. However, you should be able to sort it out yourself, I suspect. The machine doesn't know your wireless access details. Either open up your wireless or use a ethernet cable to link the Pro to the router. http://www.macworld.com/article/2056543/installing-mavericks-our-complete-guide.html Good luck. Gena On 16 Aug 2014, at 20:06, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote: Dear listers, I have 2 machines, a mini and a macbook, where the macbook won't boot any longer. I'm now writing on my mac mini, which has Mountain Lion. I'd rather not yet update this machine to Mavericks, because I'm waiting for Yosemite. My macbook is indeed running Mavericks already. This afternoon, the Mavericks macbook somehow died. It won't boot. My wife tells me there's an infinite beach ball, and the system has been used so intensively, that I wanted to reinstall Mavericks anyway, and start anew. That is because my macbook had lion, mountain lion, and then I updated that to Mavericks, and the macbook deserves a fresh install. Unfortunately, the macbook won't boot anymore. I thought I would first restore my latest macbook time machine backup. This went, but failed before getting to 1 %. If I start up the macbook from its recovery partition and I then try to reinstall OS 10, it asks for my Apple ID, and it won't get passed that, even though there is a wifi connection according to my sighted wife. It keeps saying: signing in to the app store, for 15 minutes. Then I gave up on that. So now, I would like to create a Mavericks USB stick, and reinstall Mavericks from there. My macbook running Mavericks, won't boot, nor recover, so that machine is not an option to create the USB recovery drive with. I'll have to create a Mavericks USB recovery stick using my mac mini, which runs Mountain lion. From what I discovered, I can indeed create a recovery USB drive, using my mountain lion machine. I downloaded the Mavericks installer app, I downloaded the diskmaker program, but when I run disk maker, it tells me that it can only create a mountain lion USB recovery disk, and not one for Mavericks. This is because disk maker detected mountain lion running on the system. So, is there any way you can think of, that I can use to create a Mavericks USB bootable installer drive for Mavericks, using my mountain lion machine? I could update this mountain lion machine and be out of trouble right away. However, I bumped into numerous Mavericks issues that don't occur on my current mountain lion installation. So, if possible, I'd like to keep using ML for a few more months, until we have Yosemite. I'm very interested to hear your solution if there is one. Regards, Paul. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. Gena Why pay someone to mess about with my food? When I can quite adequately mess about with it myself! Georgina Joyce Applied Psychologist Training and Coaching. Because individuals of groups matter! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
deleting Facebok or Twitter accounts using Safari 6.1.5, Mountain Lion and Voiceover?
What is the most VO friendly way to delete a FB or Twitter account using Safari 6.1.5, Mountain Lion and Voiceover? Alternatively, can this be done from the IOS app? I find it impossible to navigate the friends or followers lists with my iPad 2, and the website is very VO unfriendly. Thanks. * Mark BurningHawk Baxter http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: deleting Facebok or Twitter accounts using Safari 6.1.5, Mountain Lion and Voiceover?
You can go to system preferences internet accounts and then go to the internet accounts table and interact with it. Next vo right arrow to the account you want to delete and stop interacting with the internet accounts table. Next vo right arrow to delete the selected account and then press vo space bar to delete the account. On Jul 21, 2014, at 6:20 AM, Mark Baxter markbaxte...@gmail.com wrote: What is the most VO friendly way to delete a FB or Twitter account using Safari 6.1.5, Mountain Lion and Voiceover? Alternatively, can this be done from the IOS app? I find it impossible to navigate the friends or followers lists with my iPad 2, and the website is very VO unfriendly. Thanks. * Mark BurningHawk Baxter http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: deleting Facebok or Twitter accounts using Safari 6.1.5, Mountain Lion and Voiceover?
That will delete the account from my computer, but not from the web itself. Thanks. * Mark BurningHawk Baxter http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: deleting Facebok or Twitter accounts using Safari 6.1.5, Mountain Lion and Voiceover?
TO delete the Facebook account you can go to settings general and then go to deactivate. If you are going to delete you're twitter account go to me settings and help and then go to account and then go to deactivate my account. On Jul 21, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Mark Baxter markbaxte...@gmail.com wrote: That will delete the account from my computer, but not from the web itself. Thanks. * Mark BurningHawk Baxter http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: deleting Facebok or Twitter accounts using Safari 6.1.5, Mountain Lion and Voiceover?
Both these settings panes are found on the websites themselves? If so, I just cannot make VO and Safari play well with those sections of the sites, but thanks. * Mark BurningHawk Baxter http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: deleting Facebok or Twitter accounts using Safari 6.1.5, Mountain Lion and Voiceover?
The twitter settings are on the website and you can deactivate you're account on Facebook with the app or website. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: deleting Facebok or Twitter accounts using Safari 6.1.5, Mountain Lion and Voiceover?
Okay, thanks. * Mark BurningHawk Baxter http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Going back to mountain lion
Hi, I'll state this mantra. Always backup your hard drive before a major OS update. Repeat it daily. At least in the US, the access to Mountain Lion in the app store is not available Apple wants you to run Mavericks. SO, unless you have a version of the ML installer saved, or you have a backup of your old drive, let me welcome you to the world of Mavericks. So, where is your backup of Mountain Lion? Because the answer is different depending on your answer. Best, --k Faith doesn't give you the answers, it merely stops you from asking the questions. On Apr 29, 2014, at 8:59 PM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote: I recently installed Mavericks on my computer, but it will not work with my older hardware properly. I now need to put Mountain lion on it. I want step-by-step instructions, if possible, I'm how to do this. Kristeen Hughes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: problems with trying to reinstall lion
Good Day: Did you try looking in the window chooser. Generally, this is how I have found the dialog for signing into the App store. Note that if you do find the dialog with the window chooser, you may have to use the VO commands to move the mouse on to the field for the Apple ID and click before you can actually enter the required information. Hopefully, that make some form of sense. HTH: Henry Education never ends. It is a series of lessons with the greatest for the last. Sherlock Holmes Le 2 mai 2014 à 03:37, Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com a écrit : Unfortunately, that didn't work. There was no password dialog of any kind on there and using the cmd+tab or CMD+~ yielded no results. I even had a sighted room mate come in here and take a look. There was no visible password dialog at all. It just sat there displaying the dialog verifying illegibility with the Appstore Mind you, this was in recovery mode. I have made sure the internet lan port was connected and functioning properly (it was). I might have to get a complete installation disk and just install fresh from that. -eric Topic: problems with trying to reinstall lion Url: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/t/786fc9bedb7e9457 = -- 1 of 1 -- From: Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com Date: Apr 29 11:54PM -0600 Url: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/msg/5b769dfe74781423 Hi, I wonder if it's asking for your password? Try a Window Chooser to see if any options come available. You could also try clicking the physical mouse or Trackpad to see if something is sitting waiting for you but VO is not gaining focus. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: problems with trying to reinstall lion
Unfortunately, that didn't work. There was no password dialog of any kind on there and using the cmd+tab or CMD+~ yielded no results. I even had a sighted room mate come in here and take a look. There was no visible password dialog at all. It just sat there displaying the dialog verifying illegibility with the Appstore Mind you, this was in recovery mode. I have made sure the internet lan port was connected and functioning properly (it was). I might have to get a complete installation disk and just install fresh from that. -eric Topic: problems with trying to reinstall lion Url: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/t/786fc9bedb7e9457 = -- 1 of 1 -- From: Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com Date: Apr 29 11:54PM -0600 Url: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/msg/5b769dfe74781423 Hi, I wonder if it's asking for your password? Try a Window Chooser to see if any options come available. You could also try clicking the physical mouse or Trackpad to see if something is sitting waiting for you but VO is not gaining focus. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Safari in Mountain Lion
Last night I took a stab at using Safari in Mountain Lion. It got ocnfusing so hope I can get some pointers. First a basic question. When I load a page VO reads it all non stop. In a nutshell,, what is a typcal way to navigate in Safari? I know I will get used to it eventually. Now specifically, I had bought an app and need to go find it and see where it went. I went to the Purchases tab and there were 4 apps that need attention (not siftware yupdates but something about Apple needing to verify eligibility). I think there was an accept button to act on the 4 apps but could not land on it. Then the app I paid for last night. I got lost while verifying my Apple ID since it was the first time used on the Mac. Straightened that out. Now I need to know how this process is handled, when one buys an app on the Mac. Need to buy another one later so would like to learn what to expect so its smooth sailing. Part of this learning curve is knowing how to navigate a web page. Thanks for any assistance in this regard. Quote of the nanosecond . . . A gentleman is a man who can play the accordion but doesn't. --Author Unknown Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
problems with trying to reinstall lion
hello everyone. I tried to do a clean install of Lion yesterday and got only as far as the dialog verifying computer eligibility with the appstore. It sat there and did nothing. I even waited an hour and still it did nothing. I restarted and retried and still got stuck at that point. I checked my internet (working and machine connected) and checked anything else that may have contributed to this. I even used wireshark on a linux box to monitor the connection. What I got from that was that the machine tried to communicate with the app store but there didn't appear to be a return response. Anyone have any clues here? The reason I am going for a clean install is that my old installation (which I am using from a time machine backup) has some problems. THese problems include: excessive CPU usage on some apps, random crashes and voiceover lockups. anyone have suggestions? -eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Going back to mountain lion
I recently installed Mavericks on my computer, but it will not work with my older hardware properly. I now need to put Mountain lion on it. I want step-by-step instructions, if possible, I'm how to do this. Kristeen Hughes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: problems with trying to reinstall lion
Hi, I wonder if it's asking for your password? Try a Window Chooser to see if any options come available. You could also try clicking the physical mouse or Trackpad to see if something is sitting waiting for you but VO is not gaining focus. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Apr 29, 2014, at 4:57 PM, Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote: hello everyone. I tried to do a clean install of Lion yesterday and got only as far as the dialog verifying computer eligibility with the appstore. It sat there and did nothing. I even waited an hour and still it did nothing. I restarted and retried and still got stuck at that point. I checked my internet (working and machine connected) and checked anything else that may have contributed to this. I even used wireshark on a linux box to monitor the connection. What I got from that was that the machine tried to communicate with the app store but there didn't appear to be a return response. Anyone have any clues here? The reason I am going for a clean install is that my old installation (which I am using from a time machine backup) has some problems. THese problems include: excessive CPU usage on some apps, random crashes and voiceover lockups. anyone have suggestions? -eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Messages in Mountain Lion
Brandon, Thanks. I have not gotten back to this yet but will. I have been texting on the iPhone and when I have opened the conversation, I only need to get to the edit field and type in it. It does not work like that in Messages? When you say I interact with the table and select the one I want (which I have done), then activate the compose button, I still need to select the recipient? I can understand doing this if there are no conversations. I sure will also try to chat using the steps you outlined. Thanks. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Whatever happened to preparations A through G? Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 4/25/2014 9:17 PM, Brandon Olivares wrote: Once you're in conversations, you interact with the table. Then you can navigate to find the conversation you want to reply to. If you want to text someone via iMessage, you have to hit the compose button, then enter either their phone number, or if they are in your contacts you can enter part of their name. It will autocomplete if you hit down arrow. Your buddies are listed in a separate window. Press command-1 to get into the buddy list. Press enter on a buddy you want to talk to, and it will open a conversation with them. Hope this helps, Brandon Facebook: Brandon.Olivares Twitter: @devbanana blindadventures.com: Tips, techniques, and personal experiences living as a blind person. On Apr 25, 2014, at 11:39 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy, After setting up Messages, I tried to figure out how to reply to a text. I got into Conversations but that was as far as I got. Also, after adding my google talk account, I could not see how to start that. Appreciate some tips on this, thanks. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Who are you going to believe, me or your own eyes? --Groucho Marx Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Messages in Mountain Lion
Howdy, After setting up Messages, I tried to figure out how to reply to a text. I got into Conversations but that was as far as I got. Also, after adding my google talk account, I could not see how to start that. Appreciate some tips on this, thanks. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Who are you going to believe, me or your own eyes? --Groucho Marx Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Messages in Mountain Lion
Once you're in conversations, you interact with the table. Then you can navigate to find the conversation you want to reply to. If you want to text someone via iMessage, you have to hit the compose button, then enter either their phone number, or if they are in your contacts you can enter part of their name. It will autocomplete if you hit down arrow. Your buddies are listed in a separate window. Press command-1 to get into the buddy list. Press enter on a buddy you want to talk to, and it will open a conversation with them. Hope this helps, Brandon Facebook: Brandon.Olivares Twitter: @devbanana blindadventures.com: Tips, techniques, and personal experiences living as a blind person. On Apr 25, 2014, at 11:39 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy, After setting up Messages, I tried to figure out how to reply to a text. I got into Conversations but that was as far as I got. Also, after adding my google talk account, I could not see how to start that. Appreciate some tips on this, thanks. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Who are you going to believe, me or your own eyes? --Groucho Marx Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Upgrading to Mavericks from Mountain lion
Hi all, I am going to upgrade my Mac Mini from Mountain lion to Mavericks. I would like to know, once the computer restarts, should I expect voice over to start running automatically if it was running when the installation began with the shutdown? Or do I have to wait for sometime and guess when to turn voiceover back on? Mary Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Upgrading to Mavericks from Mountain lion
If VoiceOver was running prior to the update, it will come on automatically. There will probably be a time of silence as the setup assistant completes the installation, but you should end up with speech in the end. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 Mountain Lion AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Mar 17, 2014, at 7:29 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I am going to upgrade my Mac Mini from Mountain lion to Mavericks. I would like to know, once the computer restarts, should I expect voice over to start running automatically if it was running when the installation began with the shutdown? Or do I have to wait for sometime and guess when to turn voiceover back on? Mary Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Resolved the calendar problems in Mountain Lion
Hello Jim all, I finally figured out what I was doing wrong. I was using VO-spacebar to open up the Event Details, which was not the correct command to use with this item. I needed to interact with it, which resolved my problem of not being able to access the event details area. Although I have been able to figure this out for the Mac, I am still having some difficulties in finding the list button in the calendar app on my iPhone4 using iOS 7.0.6. May be others on this list can give me some pointers on how to access the list view on the phone. When I perform the CMD-N in calendar, it brings me to a quick view in the inspector. I have never use this function, so are there any tips tricks inputting the right buzz words to have the info placed in the right edit fields? I look forward to any suggestions to utilize this function more efficiently. thanks in advance. Best, Eileen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Calendar Problems Worsen With Latest Security update For Moutain Lion?
Hi Eileen! How do you add your appointments? I just did a test run. I did command-n for new event and then typed in event at 7 pM tomorrow night. That put me into the inspector and from there the date and time showed up as a link and I could enter on that and change the date and time with vo up and down arrow keys. and when I closed the calendar the event was automatically saved. Are you getting anything like this? Let me know and I'll try again to help. Jim On Mar 10, 2014, at 12:21 AM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Folks, I am not sure if if I need to report this to accessibility at Apple. I use to be able to input my appointments in the native calendar app in Mountain Lion. I am able to select the date and open the inspector to begin the process of adding an appointment. Here is where I begin to have problems. I tab over to the event details and try to VO-spacebar on it, which use to open the pop down list. Now, I have to tab into the area and once there even using the right arrow will not perform the same behavior before the security update. This was using the right arrow key to move from the heading to the edit field like in the first choice of location. I am also having difficulty setting the from' and to time parameters, with alerts and having problems getting back to the done button to add the appointment to the calendar. Have others had this problem also? What kind of steps can one suggest that may straighten this out, so I can use the calendar again? Please advise, as I have also seen some changes on my iPhone 4 with the new iOS 7.0.6 update. On the phone, I can't seem to find the list tab to view my appointments. Thanks in advance. Best, Eileen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Calendar Problems Worsen With Latest Security update For Moutain Lion?
Hello Folks, I am not sure if if I need to report this to accessibility at Apple. I use to be able to input my appointments in the native calendar app in Mountain Lion. I am able to select the date and open the inspector to begin the process of adding an appointment. Here is where I begin to have problems. I tab over to the event details and try to VO-spacebar on it, which use to open the pop down list. Now, I have to tab into the area and once there even using the right arrow will not perform the same behavior before the security update. This was using the right arrow key to move from the heading to the edit field like in the first choice of location. I am also having difficulty setting the from' and to time parameters, with alerts and having problems getting back to the done button to add the appointment to the calendar. Have others had this problem also? What kind of steps can one suggest that may straighten this out, so I can use the calendar again? Please advise, as I have also seen some changes on my iPhone 4 with the new iOS 7.0.6 update. On the phone, I can't seem to find the list tab to view my appointments. Thanks in advance. Best, Eileen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Navigating in Mountain Lion with VO
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Re: Navigating in Mountain Lion with VO
It's been a while, Robert. Sorry about that if it was the wrong info. I don't even have a Mountain Lion recovery disk I can look at either at this point to check out. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 15, 2014, at 12:46 AM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Had done that earlier nbuit went back again. I did not see a 2nd Utilities menu but when I opened the OS X Utilities and clicked the Shoiw All option, I saw a 2nd one. And there it is! But braim fried so will give it a rest for a day. Will let you know when I get that darn password reset. Quote of the nanosecond . . . If the professor on Gilligan's Island can make a radio out of a coconut, why can't he fix a hole in a boat? Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/14/2014 9:31 PM, John Panarese wrote: Try doing a VO-m when the recovery HD comes up. There should be a Utilities menu. If you go down it, you'll find, Terminal, there. Let me know if I misunderstood you though. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 14, 2014, at 9:46 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John, Its not my day. When I boot into recovery, the OS X Utility menu comes up. I see no Terminzl option there. Am I in the right menu? Quote of the nanosecond . . . You only live once, but if you work it right, once is enough. Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/14/2014 11:03 AM, John Panarese wrote: Yes, it's accessible. You have to boot into your Recovery HD by holding down command-r during startup. Then, start VoiceOver after about 30 seconds with command-F5. From the Utility menu, you will find an option for, Terminal. VO-space on that and type, resetpassword and hit enter. This will put you into an interface that will allow you to reset your account password. It's important to note that once you do this and restart the computer, you will be asked if you want to sync your keychain password to your account password. Be sure to do this. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 14, 2014, at 1:59 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John, I know I am going to have to do this before I can really move forward. Is the reset process accessible with Voiceover? I found some info on how to do this but not when using Voiceover. Quote of the nanosecond . . . A mistake is to commit a misunderstanding. --Bob Dylan Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/14/2014 6:44 AM, John Panarese wrote: No, but you won't be able to unlock preferences or install apps without knowing the password for your account. You can reset it, but it's a pain in the backside to do. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:10 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Good grief. I am given a hint that I probably entered but its too vague. Heh. Will I get locked out after so many failed attemtps? Quote of the nanosecond . . . A smile is the same in any language. Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/13/2014 8:04 PM, John Panarese wrote: Yes, it's your system or account password. You should only be asked this the first time. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 13, 2014, at 10:57 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: I will remember that one once I get past an issue that stumps me. I put Dropbox on the Mac. Now when I want to access it, I am asked for the computer password. Is that the same as the login password? I never entered that as far as I can recall. I am
Re: Navigating in Mountain Lion with VO
Well I am now sitting at the login screen, with my user account and I do not know how to click on it. Quote of the nanosecond . . . They're g-r-r-r-eat! --Kellog's Frosted Flakes Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/15/2014 8:25 AM, John Panarese wrote: It's been a while, Robert. Sorry about that if it was the wrong info. I don't even have a Mountain Lion recovery disk I can look at either at this point to check out. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 15, 2014, at 12:46 AM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Had done that earlier nbuit went back again. I did not see a 2nd Utilities menu but when I opened the OS X Utilities and clicked the Shoiw All option, I saw a 2nd one. And there it is! But braim fried so will give it a rest for a day. Will let you know when I get that darn password reset. Quote of the nanosecond . . . If the professor on Gilligan's Island can make a radio out of a coconut, why can't he fix a hole in a boat? Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/14/2014 9:31 PM, John Panarese wrote: Try doing a VO-m when the recovery HD comes up. There should be a Utilities menu. If you go down it, you'll find, Terminal, there. Let me know if I misunderstood you though. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 14, 2014, at 9:46 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John, Its not my day. When I boot into recovery, the OS X Utility menu comes up. I see no Terminzl option there. Am I in the right menu? Quote of the nanosecond . . . You only live once, but if you work it right, once is enough. Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/14/2014 11:03 AM, John Panarese wrote: Yes, it's accessible. You have to boot into your Recovery HD by holding down command-r during startup. Then, start VoiceOver after about 30 seconds with command-F5. From the Utility menu, you will find an option for, Terminal. VO-space on that and type, resetpassword and hit enter. This will put you into an interface that will allow you to reset your account password. It's important to note that once you do this and restart the computer, you will be asked if you want to sync your keychain password to your account password. Be sure to do this. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 14, 2014, at 1:59 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John, I know I am going to have to do this before I can really move forward. Is the reset process accessible with Voiceover? I found some info on how to do this but not when using Voiceover. Quote of the nanosecond . . . A mistake is to commit a misunderstanding. --Bob Dylan Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/14/2014 6:44 AM, John Panarese wrote: No, but you won't be able to unlock preferences or install apps without knowing the password for your account. You can reset it, but it's a pain in the backside to do. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:10 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Good grief. I am given a hint that I probably entered but its too vague. Heh. Will I get locked out after so many failed attemtps? Quote of the nanosecond . . . A smile is the same in any language. Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/13/2014 8:04 PM, John Panarese wrote: Yes, it's your system or account password. You should only be asked this the first time. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 13, 2014, at 10:57 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: I will remember that one once I get past an issue that stumps me. I put Dropbox on the Mac. Now
Re: Navigating in Mountain Lion with VO
I don't think you have to click on it. I think it's chosen by default if you are the only user. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 15, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Well I am now sitting at the login screen, with my user account and I do not know how to click on it. Quote of the nanosecond . . . They're g-r-r-r-eat! --Kellog's Frosted Flakes Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/15/2014 8:25 AM, John Panarese wrote: It's been a while, Robert. Sorry about that if it was the wrong info. I don't even have a Mountain Lion recovery disk I can look at either at this point to check out. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 15, 2014, at 12:46 AM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Had done that earlier nbuit went back again. I did not see a 2nd Utilities menu but when I opened the OS X Utilities and clicked the Shoiw All option, I saw a 2nd one. And there it is! But braim fried so will give it a rest for a day. Will let you know when I get that darn password reset. Quote of the nanosecond . . . If the professor on Gilligan's Island can make a radio out of a coconut, why can't he fix a hole in a boat? Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/14/2014 9:31 PM, John Panarese wrote: Try doing a VO-m when the recovery HD comes up. There should be a Utilities menu. If you go down it, you'll find, Terminal, there. Let me know if I misunderstood you though. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 14, 2014, at 9:46 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John, Its not my day. When I boot into recovery, the OS X Utility menu comes up. I see no Terminzl option there. Am I in the right menu? Quote of the nanosecond . . . You only live once, but if you work it right, once is enough. Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/14/2014 11:03 AM, John Panarese wrote: Yes, it's accessible. You have to boot into your Recovery HD by holding down command-r during startup. Then, start VoiceOver after about 30 seconds with command-F5. From the Utility menu, you will find an option for, Terminal. VO-space on that and type, resetpassword and hit enter. This will put you into an interface that will allow you to reset your account password. It's important to note that once you do this and restart the computer, you will be asked if you want to sync your keychain password to your account password. Be sure to do this. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 14, 2014, at 1:59 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John, I know I am going to have to do this before I can really move forward. Is the reset process accessible with Voiceover? I found some info on how to do this but not when using Voiceover. Quote of the nanosecond . . . A mistake is to commit a misunderstanding. --Bob Dylan Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/14/2014 6:44 AM, John Panarese wrote: No, but you won't be able to unlock preferences or install apps without knowing the password for your account. You can reset it, but it's a pain in the backside to do. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:10 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Good grief. I am given a hint that I probably entered but its too vague. Heh. Will I get locked out after so many failed attemtps? Quote of the nanosecond . . . A smile is the same in any language. Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com
Re: Navigating in Mountain Lion with VO
Here is where I am now. I found Terminal and did the password reset. There was something else about ACLs I probably should have left alone. Now when the Mac boots, my user account name is on the screen and sits there.I cannot go any further. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, champagne in one hand, strawberries in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - what a ride! Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/15/2014 8:45 AM, John Panarese wrote: I don't think you have to click on it. I think it's chosen by default if you are the only user. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 15, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Well I am now sitting at the login screen, with my user account and I do not know how to click on it. Quote of the nanosecond . . . They're g-r-r-r-eat! --Kellog's Frosted Flakes Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/15/2014 8:25 AM, John Panarese wrote: It's been a while, Robert. Sorry about that if it was the wrong info. I don't even have a Mountain Lion recovery disk I can look at either at this point to check out. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 15, 2014, at 12:46 AM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Had done that earlier nbuit went back again. I did not see a 2nd Utilities menu but when I opened the OS X Utilities and clicked the Shoiw All option, I saw a 2nd one. And there it is! But braim fried so will give it a rest for a day. Will let you know when I get that darn password reset. Quote of the nanosecond . . . If the professor on Gilligan's Island can make a radio out of a coconut, why can't he fix a hole in a boat? Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/14/2014 9:31 PM, John Panarese wrote: Try doing a VO-m when the recovery HD comes up. There should be a Utilities menu. If you go down it, you'll find, Terminal, there. Let me know if I misunderstood you though. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 14, 2014, at 9:46 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John, Its not my day. When I boot into recovery, the OS X Utility menu comes up. I see no Terminzl option there. Am I in the right menu? Quote of the nanosecond . . . You only live once, but if you work it right, once is enough. Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/14/2014 11:03 AM, John Panarese wrote: Yes, it's accessible. You have to boot into your Recovery HD by holding down command-r during startup. Then, start VoiceOver after about 30 seconds with command-F5. From the Utility menu, you will find an option for, Terminal. VO-space on that and type, resetpassword and hit enter. This will put you into an interface that will allow you to reset your account password. It's important to note that once you do this and restart the computer, you will be asked if you want to sync your keychain password to your account password. Be sure to do this. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 14, 2014, at 1:59 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John, I know I am going to have to do this before I can really move forward. Is the reset process accessible with Voiceover? I found some info on how to do this but not when using Voiceover. Quote of the nanosecond . . . A mistake is to commit a misunderstanding. --Bob Dylan Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/14/2014 6:44 AM, John Panarese wrote: No, but you won't be able to unlock preferences or install apps without knowing the password for your account. You can reset it, but it's a pain in the backside to do. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j
Re: Navigating in Mountain Lion with VO
Is it the login window? You might have to enter your password or there might be a dialog telling you about your keychain password needing to reset. Do you have VoiceOver speech? Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 15, 2014, at 11:50 AM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Here is where I am now. I found Terminal and did the password reset. There was something else about ACLs I probably should have left alone. Now when the Mac boots, my user account name is on the screen and sits there.I cannot go any further. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, champagne in one hand, strawberries in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - what a ride! Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/15/2014 8:45 AM, John Panarese wrote: I don't think you have to click on it. I think it's chosen by default if you are the only user. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 15, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Well I am now sitting at the login screen, with my user account and I do not know how to click on it. Quote of the nanosecond . . . They're g-r-r-r-eat! --Kellog's Frosted Flakes Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/15/2014 8:25 AM, John Panarese wrote: It's been a while, Robert. Sorry about that if it was the wrong info. I don't even have a Mountain Lion recovery disk I can look at either at this point to check out. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 15, 2014, at 12:46 AM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Had done that earlier nbuit went back again. I did not see a 2nd Utilities menu but when I opened the OS X Utilities and clicked the Shoiw All option, I saw a 2nd one. And there it is! But braim fried so will give it a rest for a day. Will let you know when I get that darn password reset. Quote of the nanosecond . . . If the professor on Gilligan's Island can make a radio out of a coconut, why can't he fix a hole in a boat? Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/14/2014 9:31 PM, John Panarese wrote: Try doing a VO-m when the recovery HD comes up. There should be a Utilities menu. If you go down it, you'll find, Terminal, there. Let me know if I misunderstood you though. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 14, 2014, at 9:46 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John, Its not my day. When I boot into recovery, the OS X Utility menu comes up. I see no Terminzl option there. Am I in the right menu? Quote of the nanosecond . . . You only live once, but if you work it right, once is enough. Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/14/2014 11:03 AM, John Panarese wrote: Yes, it's accessible. You have to boot into your Recovery HD by holding down command-r during startup. Then, start VoiceOver after about 30 seconds with command-F5. From the Utility menu, you will find an option for, Terminal. VO-space on that and type, resetpassword and hit enter. This will put you into an interface that will allow you to reset your account password. It's important to note that once you do this and restart the computer, you will be asked if you want to sync your keychain password to your account password. Be sure to do this. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 14, 2014, at 1:59 PM, Robert C gone.to.da
Re: Navigating in Mountain Lion with VO
Yes that is where I am now. Entered new password, now it wants a new keychain password. Will have to put this on hold for a while. Need coffee. :) Quote of the nanosecond . . . Wouldn't you know itBrain cells come and brain cells go, but FAT cells live forever. Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/15/2014 9:07 AM, John Panarese wrote: Is it the login window? You might have to enter your password or there might be a dialog telling you about your keychain password needing to reset. Do you have VoiceOver speech? Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 15, 2014, at 11:50 AM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Here is where I am now. I found Terminal and did the password reset. There was something else about ACLs I probably should have left alone. Now when the Mac boots, my user account name is on the screen and sits there.I cannot go any further. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, champagne in one hand, strawberries in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - what a ride! Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/15/2014 8:45 AM, John Panarese wrote: I don't think you have to click on it. I think it's chosen by default if you are the only user. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 15, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Well I am now sitting at the login screen, with my user account and I do not know how to click on it. Quote of the nanosecond . . . They're g-r-r-r-eat! --Kellog's Frosted Flakes Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/15/2014 8:25 AM, John Panarese wrote: It's been a while, Robert. Sorry about that if it was the wrong info. I don't even have a Mountain Lion recovery disk I can look at either at this point to check out. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 15, 2014, at 12:46 AM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Had done that earlier nbuit went back again. I did not see a 2nd Utilities menu but when I opened the OS X Utilities and clicked the Shoiw All option, I saw a 2nd one. And there it is! But braim fried so will give it a rest for a day. Will let you know when I get that darn password reset. Quote of the nanosecond . . . If the professor on Gilligan's Island can make a radio out of a coconut, why can't he fix a hole in a boat? Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/14/2014 9:31 PM, John Panarese wrote: Try doing a VO-m when the recovery HD comes up. There should be a Utilities menu. If you go down it, you'll find, Terminal, there. Let me know if I misunderstood you though. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 14, 2014, at 9:46 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John, Its not my day. When I boot into recovery, the OS X Utility menu comes up. I see no Terminzl option there. Am I in the right menu? Quote of the nanosecond . . . You only live once, but if you work it right, once is enough. Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/14/2014 11:03 AM, John Panarese wrote: Yes, it's accessible. You have to boot into your Recovery HD by holding down command-r during startup. Then, start VoiceOver after about 30 seconds with command-F5. From the Utility menu, you will find an option for, Terminal. VO-space on that and type, resetpassword and hit enter. This will put you into an interface that will allow you to reset your account password. It's important to note that once you do this and restart the computer, you will be asked if you want to sync your keychain password to your account password. Be sure to do this. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j
Re: Navigating in Mountain Lion with VO
You should have gotten a dialog to sync your new password to your keychain. This is so you never have to think about unlocking your keychain. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 15, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Yes that is where I am now. Entered new password, now it wants a new keychain password. Will have to put this on hold for a while. Need coffee. :) Quote of the nanosecond . . . Wouldn't you know itBrain cells come and brain cells go, but FAT cells live forever. Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/15/2014 9:07 AM, John Panarese wrote: Is it the login window? You might have to enter your password or there might be a dialog telling you about your keychain password needing to reset. Do you have VoiceOver speech? Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 15, 2014, at 11:50 AM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Here is where I am now. I found Terminal and did the password reset. There was something else about ACLs I probably should have left alone. Now when the Mac boots, my user account name is on the screen and sits there.I cannot go any further. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, champagne in one hand, strawberries in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - what a ride! Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/15/2014 8:45 AM, John Panarese wrote: I don't think you have to click on it. I think it's chosen by default if you are the only user. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 15, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Well I am now sitting at the login screen, with my user account and I do not know how to click on it. Quote of the nanosecond . . . They're g-r-r-r-eat! --Kellog's Frosted Flakes Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/15/2014 8:25 AM, John Panarese wrote: It's been a while, Robert. Sorry about that if it was the wrong info. I don't even have a Mountain Lion recovery disk I can look at either at this point to check out. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 15, 2014, at 12:46 AM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Had done that earlier nbuit went back again. I did not see a 2nd Utilities menu but when I opened the OS X Utilities and clicked the Shoiw All option, I saw a 2nd one. And there it is! But braim fried so will give it a rest for a day. Will let you know when I get that darn password reset. Quote of the nanosecond . . . If the professor on Gilligan's Island can make a radio out of a coconut, why can't he fix a hole in a boat? Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/14/2014 9:31 PM, John Panarese wrote: Try doing a VO-m when the recovery HD comes up. There should be a Utilities menu. If you go down it, you'll find, Terminal, there. Let me know if I misunderstood you though. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 14, 2014, at 9:46 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John, Its not my day. When I boot into recovery, the OS X Utility menu comes up. I see no Terminzl option there. Am I in the right menu? Quote of the nanosecond . . . You only live once, but if you work it right, once is enough. Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/14/2014 11:03 AM, John Panarese wrote: Yes, it's
Re: Navigating in Mountain Lion with VO
Hi, Interact with the scroll area and do a vo space and then you should be able to type your password and you should be good to go. Matthew On Feb 15, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Well I am now sitting at the login screen, with my user account and I do not know how to click on it. Quote of the nanosecond . . . They're g-r-r-r-eat! --Kellog's Frosted Flakes Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/15/2014 8:25 AM, John Panarese wrote: It's been a while, Robert. Sorry about that if it was the wrong info. I don't even have a Mountain Lion recovery disk I can look at either at this point to check out. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 15, 2014, at 12:46 AM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Had done that earlier nbuit went back again. I did not see a 2nd Utilities menu but when I opened the OS X Utilities and clicked the Shoiw All option, I saw a 2nd one. And there it is! But braim fried so will give it a rest for a day. Will let you know when I get that darn password reset. Quote of the nanosecond . . . If the professor on Gilligan's Island can make a radio out of a coconut, why can't he fix a hole in a boat? Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/14/2014 9:31 PM, John Panarese wrote: Try doing a VO-m when the recovery HD comes up. There should be a Utilities menu. If you go down it, you'll find, Terminal, there. Let me know if I misunderstood you though. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 14, 2014, at 9:46 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John, Its not my day. When I boot into recovery, the OS X Utility menu comes up. I see no Terminzl option there. Am I in the right menu? Quote of the nanosecond . . . You only live once, but if you work it right, once is enough. Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/14/2014 11:03 AM, John Panarese wrote: Yes, it's accessible. You have to boot into your Recovery HD by holding down command-r during startup. Then, start VoiceOver after about 30 seconds with command-F5. From the Utility menu, you will find an option for, Terminal. VO-space on that and type, resetpassword and hit enter. This will put you into an interface that will allow you to reset your account password. It's important to note that once you do this and restart the computer, you will be asked if you want to sync your keychain password to your account password. Be sure to do this. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 14, 2014, at 1:59 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John, I know I am going to have to do this before I can really move forward. Is the reset process accessible with Voiceover? I found some info on how to do this but not when using Voiceover. Quote of the nanosecond . . . A mistake is to commit a misunderstanding. --Bob Dylan Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/14/2014 6:44 AM, John Panarese wrote: No, but you won't be able to unlock preferences or install apps without knowing the password for your account. You can reset it, but it's a pain in the backside to do. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:10 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Good grief. I am given a hint that I probably entered but its too vague. Heh. Will I get locked out after so many failed attemtps? Quote of the nanosecond . . . A smile is the same in any language. Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/13/2014 8:04 PM, John Panarese wrote: Yes, it's your system or account password. You should only be asked this the first time. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j
Re: Navigating in Mountain Lion with VO
Ok now that I am back home, I am going to tackle this again. I dont recall setting a keychain password so this part confused me today and I should not have rushed into resetting the login password. So I need to understand this. What is the keychain for, and is it the same thing as the iCloud keychain on the iPhone? One of the options I saw earlier was to create a new keychain. I take it that is what I want since I dont remember setting one before. And hopefully, once I am done with this,, I can get to work. :) Quote of the nanosecond . . . Good girls go to heaven, bad girls go everywhere. --Mae West Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/15/2014 9:23 AM, John Panarese wrote: You should have gotten a dialog to sync your new password to your keychain. This is so you never have to think about unlocking your keychain. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 15, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Yes that is where I am now. Entered new password, now it wants a new keychain password. Will have to put this on hold for a while. Need coffee. :) Quote of the nanosecond . . . Wouldn't you know itBrain cells come and brain cells go, but FAT cells live forever. Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/15/2014 9:07 AM, John Panarese wrote: Is it the login window? You might have to enter your password or there might be a dialog telling you about your keychain password needing to reset. Do you have VoiceOver speech? Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 15, 2014, at 11:50 AM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Here is where I am now. I found Terminal and did the password reset. There was something else about ACLs I probably should have left alone. Now when the Mac boots, my user account name is on the screen and sits there.I cannot go any further. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, champagne in one hand, strawberries in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - what a ride! Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/15/2014 8:45 AM, John Panarese wrote: I don't think you have to click on it. I think it's chosen by default if you are the only user. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 15, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Well I am now sitting at the login screen, with my user account and I do not know how to click on it. Quote of the nanosecond . . . They're g-r-r-r-eat! --Kellog's Frosted Flakes Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/15/2014 8:25 AM, John Panarese wrote: It's been a while, Robert. Sorry about that if it was the wrong info. I don't even have a Mountain Lion recovery disk I can look at either at this point to check out. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 15, 2014, at 12:46 AM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Had done that earlier nbuit went back again. I did not see a 2nd Utilities menu but when I opened the OS X Utilities and clicked the Shoiw All option, I saw a 2nd one. And there it is! But braim fried so will give it a rest for a day. Will let you know when I get that darn password reset. Quote of the nanosecond . . . If the professor on Gilligan's Island can make a radio out of a coconut, why can't he fix a hole in a boat? Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/14/2014 9:31 PM, John Panarese wrote: Try doing a VO-m when the recovery HD comes up. There should be a Utilities menu. If you go down it, you'll find, Terminal, there. Let me know if I misunderstood you though. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http
Re: Navigating in Mountain Lion with VO
It is usually something that the user has little interaction with as it unlocks with their login password. Basically, it encrypts and keeps all of your secure data in one place. Things like login passwords for your mail accounts or internet accounts, WiFi passwords, etc, are kept by your keychain. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 15, 2014, at 10:40 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Ok now that I am back home, I am going to tackle this again. I dont recall setting a keychain password so this part confused me today and I should not have rushed into resetting the login password. So I need to understand this. What is the keychain for, and is it the same thing as the iCloud keychain on the iPhone? One of the options I saw earlier was to create a new keychain. I take it that is what I want since I dont remember setting one before. And hopefully, once I am done with this,, I can get to work. :) Quote of the nanosecond . . . Good girls go to heaven, bad girls go everywhere. --Mae West Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/15/2014 9:23 AM, John Panarese wrote: You should have gotten a dialog to sync your new password to your keychain. This is so you never have to think about unlocking your keychain. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 15, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Yes that is where I am now. Entered new password, now it wants a new keychain password. Will have to put this on hold for a while. Need coffee. :) Quote of the nanosecond . . . Wouldn't you know itBrain cells come and brain cells go, but FAT cells live forever. Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/15/2014 9:07 AM, John Panarese wrote: Is it the login window? You might have to enter your password or there might be a dialog telling you about your keychain password needing to reset. Do you have VoiceOver speech? Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 15, 2014, at 11:50 AM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Here is where I am now. I found Terminal and did the password reset. There was something else about ACLs I probably should have left alone. Now when the Mac boots, my user account name is on the screen and sits there.I cannot go any further. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, champagne in one hand, strawberries in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - what a ride! Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/15/2014 8:45 AM, John Panarese wrote: I don't think you have to click on it. I think it's chosen by default if you are the only user. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 15, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Well I am now sitting at the login screen, with my user account and I do not know how to click on it. Quote of the nanosecond . . . They're g-r-r-r-eat! --Kellog's Frosted Flakes Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/15/2014 8:25 AM, John Panarese wrote: It's been a while, Robert. Sorry about that if it was the wrong info. I don't even have a Mountain Lion recovery disk I can look at either at this point to check out. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 15, 2014, at 12:46 AM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Had done that earlier nbuit went back again. I
Re: Navigating in Mountain Lion with VO
No, but you won't be able to unlock preferences or install apps without knowing the password for your account. You can reset it, but it's a pain in the backside to do. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:10 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Good grief. I am given a hint that I probably entered but its too vague. Heh. Will I get locked out after so many failed attemtps? Quote of the nanosecond . . . A smile is the same in any language. Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/13/2014 8:04 PM, John Panarese wrote: Yes, it's your system or account password. You should only be asked this the first time. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 13, 2014, at 10:57 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: I will remember that one once I get past an issue that stumps me. I put Dropbox on the Mac. Now when I want to access it, I am asked for the computer password. Is that the same as the login password? I never entered that as far as I can recall. I am really lost and am gonna take a break from it. LOL Quote of the nanosecond . . . Oxymoron: Original copy Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/13/2014 5:32 PM, John Panarese wrote: The easiest way to jump between the sidebar and the browser window in Finder is to use control-option-j. It automatically interacts for you and saves you steps. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 13, 2014, at 8:26 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Need a bit of help. Running Mountain Lion on Macbook. I cannot seem to grasp what VO commands to use to move between, say the sidebar and view browser in a Finder window. Been a Windows user for too many years. Thanks for any assistance here. Quote of the nanosecond . . . A backward poet writes inverse. Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Navigating in Mountain Lion with VO
Hi John, I know I am going to have to do this before I can really move forward. Is the reset process accessible with Voiceover? I found some info on how to do this but not when using Voiceover. Quote of the nanosecond . . . A mistake is to commit a misunderstanding. --Bob Dylan Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/14/2014 6:44 AM, John Panarese wrote: No, but you won't be able to unlock preferences or install apps without knowing the password for your account. You can reset it, but it's a pain in the backside to do. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:10 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Good grief. I am given a hint that I probably entered but its too vague. Heh. Will I get locked out after so many failed attemtps? Quote of the nanosecond . . . A smile is the same in any language. Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/13/2014 8:04 PM, John Panarese wrote: Yes, it's your system or account password. You should only be asked this the first time. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 13, 2014, at 10:57 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: I will remember that one once I get past an issue that stumps me. I put Dropbox on the Mac. Now when I want to access it, I am asked for the computer password. Is that the same as the login password? I never entered that as far as I can recall. I am really lost and am gonna take a break from it. LOL Quote of the nanosecond . . . Oxymoron: Original copy Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/13/2014 5:32 PM, John Panarese wrote: The easiest way to jump between the sidebar and the browser window in Finder is to use control-option-j. It automatically interacts for you and saves you steps. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 13, 2014, at 8:26 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Need a bit of help. Running Mountain Lion on Macbook. I cannot seem to grasp what VO commands to use to move between, say the sidebar and view browser in a Finder window. Been a Windows user for too many years. Thanks for any assistance here. Quote of the nanosecond . . . A backward poet writes inverse. Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Navigating in Mountain Lion with VO
Yes, it's accessible. You have to boot into your Recovery HD by holding down command-r during startup. Then, start VoiceOver after about 30 seconds with command-F5. From the Utility menu, you will find an option for, Terminal. VO-space on that and type, resetpassword and hit enter. This will put you into an interface that will allow you to reset your account password. It's important to note that once you do this and restart the computer, you will be asked if you want to sync your keychain password to your account password. Be sure to do this. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 14, 2014, at 1:59 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John, I know I am going to have to do this before I can really move forward. Is the reset process accessible with Voiceover? I found some info on how to do this but not when using Voiceover. Quote of the nanosecond . . . A mistake is to commit a misunderstanding. --Bob Dylan Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/14/2014 6:44 AM, John Panarese wrote: No, but you won't be able to unlock preferences or install apps without knowing the password for your account. You can reset it, but it's a pain in the backside to do. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:10 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Good grief. I am given a hint that I probably entered but its too vague. Heh. Will I get locked out after so many failed attemtps? Quote of the nanosecond . . . A smile is the same in any language. Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/13/2014 8:04 PM, John Panarese wrote: Yes, it's your system or account password. You should only be asked this the first time. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 13, 2014, at 10:57 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: I will remember that one once I get past an issue that stumps me. I put Dropbox on the Mac. Now when I want to access it, I am asked for the computer password. Is that the same as the login password? I never entered that as far as I can recall. I am really lost and am gonna take a break from it. LOL Quote of the nanosecond . . . Oxymoron: Original copy Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/13/2014 5:32 PM, John Panarese wrote: The easiest way to jump between the sidebar and the browser window in Finder is to use control-option-j. It automatically interacts for you and saves you steps. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 13, 2014, at 8:26 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Need a bit of help. Running Mountain Lion on Macbook. I cannot seem to grasp what VO commands to use to move between, say the sidebar and view browser in a Finder window. Been a Windows user for too many years. Thanks for any assistance here. Quote of the nanosecond . . . A backward poet writes inverse. Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out
Re: Navigating in Mountain Lion with VO
Hi John, Its not my day. When I boot into recovery, the OS X Utility menu comes up. I see no Terminzl option there. Am I in the right menu? Quote of the nanosecond . . . You only live once, but if you work it right, once is enough. Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/14/2014 11:03 AM, John Panarese wrote: Yes, it's accessible. You have to boot into your Recovery HD by holding down command-r during startup. Then, start VoiceOver after about 30 seconds with command-F5. From the Utility menu, you will find an option for, Terminal. VO-space on that and type, resetpassword and hit enter. This will put you into an interface that will allow you to reset your account password. It's important to note that once you do this and restart the computer, you will be asked if you want to sync your keychain password to your account password. Be sure to do this. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 14, 2014, at 1:59 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John, I know I am going to have to do this before I can really move forward. Is the reset process accessible with Voiceover? I found some info on how to do this but not when using Voiceover. Quote of the nanosecond . . . A mistake is to commit a misunderstanding. --Bob Dylan Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/14/2014 6:44 AM, John Panarese wrote: No, but you won't be able to unlock preferences or install apps without knowing the password for your account. You can reset it, but it's a pain in the backside to do. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:10 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Good grief. I am given a hint that I probably entered but its too vague. Heh. Will I get locked out after so many failed attemtps? Quote of the nanosecond . . . A smile is the same in any language. Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/13/2014 8:04 PM, John Panarese wrote: Yes, it's your system or account password. You should only be asked this the first time. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 13, 2014, at 10:57 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: I will remember that one once I get past an issue that stumps me. I put Dropbox on the Mac. Now when I want to access it, I am asked for the computer password. Is that the same as the login password? I never entered that as far as I can recall. I am really lost and am gonna take a break from it. LOL Quote of the nanosecond . . . Oxymoron: Original copy Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/13/2014 5:32 PM, John Panarese wrote: The easiest way to jump between the sidebar and the browser window in Finder is to use control-option-j. It automatically interacts for you and saves you steps. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 13, 2014, at 8:26 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Need a bit of help. Running Mountain Lion on Macbook. I cannot seem to grasp what VO commands to use to move between, say the sidebar and view browser in a Finder window. Been a Windows user for too many years. Thanks for any assistance here. Quote of the nanosecond . . . A backward poet writes inverse. Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr
Re: Navigating in Mountain Lion with VO
Try doing a VO-m when the recovery HD comes up. There should be a Utilities menu. If you go down it, you'll find, Terminal, there. Let me know if I misunderstood you though. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 14, 2014, at 9:46 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John, Its not my day. When I boot into recovery, the OS X Utility menu comes up. I see no Terminzl option there. Am I in the right menu? Quote of the nanosecond . . . You only live once, but if you work it right, once is enough. Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/14/2014 11:03 AM, John Panarese wrote: Yes, it's accessible. You have to boot into your Recovery HD by holding down command-r during startup. Then, start VoiceOver after about 30 seconds with command-F5. From the Utility menu, you will find an option for, Terminal. VO-space on that and type, resetpassword and hit enter. This will put you into an interface that will allow you to reset your account password. It's important to note that once you do this and restart the computer, you will be asked if you want to sync your keychain password to your account password. Be sure to do this. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 14, 2014, at 1:59 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John, I know I am going to have to do this before I can really move forward. Is the reset process accessible with Voiceover? I found some info on how to do this but not when using Voiceover. Quote of the nanosecond . . . A mistake is to commit a misunderstanding. --Bob Dylan Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/14/2014 6:44 AM, John Panarese wrote: No, but you won't be able to unlock preferences or install apps without knowing the password for your account. You can reset it, but it's a pain in the backside to do. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:10 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Good grief. I am given a hint that I probably entered but its too vague. Heh. Will I get locked out after so many failed attemtps? Quote of the nanosecond . . . A smile is the same in any language. Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/13/2014 8:04 PM, John Panarese wrote: Yes, it's your system or account password. You should only be asked this the first time. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 13, 2014, at 10:57 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: I will remember that one once I get past an issue that stumps me. I put Dropbox on the Mac. Now when I want to access it, I am asked for the computer password. Is that the same as the login password? I never entered that as far as I can recall. I am really lost and am gonna take a break from it. LOL Quote of the nanosecond . . . Oxymoron: Original copy Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/13/2014 5:32 PM, John Panarese wrote: The easiest way to jump between the sidebar and the browser window in Finder is to use control-option-j. It automatically interacts for you and saves you steps. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 13, 2014, at 8:26 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Need a bit of help. Running Mountain Lion on Macbook. I cannot seem to grasp what VO commands to use to move between, say the sidebar and view browser in a Finder window. Been a Windows user for too many years. Thanks for any assistance here. Quote of the nanosecond . . . A backward poet writes inverse. Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn
Re: Navigating in Mountain Lion with VO
Had done that earlier nbuit went back again. I did not see a 2nd Utilities menu but when I opened the OS X Utilities and clicked the Shoiw All option, I saw a 2nd one. And there it is! But braim fried so will give it a rest for a day. Will let you know when I get that darn password reset. Quote of the nanosecond . . . If the professor on Gilligan's Island can make a radio out of a coconut, why can't he fix a hole in a boat? Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/14/2014 9:31 PM, John Panarese wrote: Try doing a VO-m when the recovery HD comes up. There should be a Utilities menu. If you go down it, you'll find, Terminal, there. Let me know if I misunderstood you though. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 14, 2014, at 9:46 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John, Its not my day. When I boot into recovery, the OS X Utility menu comes up. I see no Terminzl option there. Am I in the right menu? Quote of the nanosecond . . . You only live once, but if you work it right, once is enough. Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/14/2014 11:03 AM, John Panarese wrote: Yes, it's accessible. You have to boot into your Recovery HD by holding down command-r during startup. Then, start VoiceOver after about 30 seconds with command-F5. From the Utility menu, you will find an option for, Terminal. VO-space on that and type, resetpassword and hit enter. This will put you into an interface that will allow you to reset your account password. It's important to note that once you do this and restart the computer, you will be asked if you want to sync your keychain password to your account password. Be sure to do this. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 14, 2014, at 1:59 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John, I know I am going to have to do this before I can really move forward. Is the reset process accessible with Voiceover? I found some info on how to do this but not when using Voiceover. Quote of the nanosecond . . . A mistake is to commit a misunderstanding. --Bob Dylan Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/14/2014 6:44 AM, John Panarese wrote: No, but you won't be able to unlock preferences or install apps without knowing the password for your account. You can reset it, but it's a pain in the backside to do. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:10 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Good grief. I am given a hint that I probably entered but its too vague. Heh. Will I get locked out after so many failed attemtps? Quote of the nanosecond . . . A smile is the same in any language. Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/13/2014 8:04 PM, John Panarese wrote: Yes, it's your system or account password. You should only be asked this the first time. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 13, 2014, at 10:57 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: I will remember that one once I get past an issue that stumps me. I put Dropbox on the Mac. Now when I want to access it, I am asked for the computer password. Is that the same as the login password? I never entered that as far as I can recall. I am really lost and am gonna take a break from it. LOL Quote of the nanosecond . . . Oxymoron: Original copy Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/13/2014 5:32 PM, John Panarese wrote: The easiest way to jump between the sidebar and the browser window in Finder is to use control-option-j. It automatically interacts for you and saves you steps. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
Navigating in Mountain Lion with VO
Need a bit of help. Running Mountain Lion on Macbook. I cannot seem to grasp what VO commands to use to move between, say the sidebar and view browser in a Finder window. Been a Windows user for too many years. Thanks for any assistance here. Quote of the nanosecond . . . A backward poet writes inverse. Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Navigating in Mountain Lion with VO
The easiest way to jump between the sidebar and the browser window in Finder is to use control-option-j. It automatically interacts for you and saves you steps. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 13, 2014, at 8:26 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Need a bit of help. Running Mountain Lion on Macbook. I cannot seem to grasp what VO commands to use to move between, say the sidebar and view browser in a Finder window. Been a Windows user for too many years. Thanks for any assistance here. Quote of the nanosecond . . . A backward poet writes inverse. Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Navigating in Mountain Lion with VO
Hi Robert, Glad to see you here. I made the switch from windows a few months ago and haven't regretted it. Are you aware of the interactive tutorial for vo? To start the tutorial press command vof8. It's divided into several sections with a section to practice what's been discssed for that particular tutorial section. Since you're in the tutorial, you don't have to worry about accidently performing some action. Check it out if you haven't already. Don - Original Message - From: Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com To: MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, February 13, 2014 5:26 pm Subject: Navigating in Mountain Lion with VO Need a bit of help. Running Mountain Lion on Macbook. I cannot seem to grasp what VO commands to use to move between, say the sidebar and view browser in a Finder window. Been a Windows user for too many years. Thanks for any assistance here. Quote of the nanosecond . . . A backward poet writes inverse. Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Navigating in Mountain Lion with VO
I will remember that one once I get past an issue that stumps me. I put Dropbox on the Mac. Now when I want to access it, I am asked for the computer password. Is that the same as the login password? I never entered that as far as I can recall. I am really lost and am gonna take a break from it. LOL Quote of the nanosecond . . . Oxymoron: Original copy Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/13/2014 5:32 PM, John Panarese wrote: The easiest way to jump between the sidebar and the browser window in Finder is to use control-option-j. It automatically interacts for you and saves you steps. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 13, 2014, at 8:26 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Need a bit of help. Running Mountain Lion on Macbook. I cannot seem to grasp what VO commands to use to move between, say the sidebar and view browser in a Finder window. Been a Windows user for too many years. Thanks for any assistance here. Quote of the nanosecond . . . A backward poet writes inverse. Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Navigating in Mountain Lion with VO
Hi Don, We seem to both get around, dont we? Yes I have played with the tutorial a few times, but due to hearing, did not get a lot from it. I wont have any regrets either once I get past this roadblock. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Oxymoron: Rock garden Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/13/2014 5:41 PM, don bishop wrote: Hi Robert, Glad to see you here. I made the switch from windows a few months ago and haven't regretted it. Are you aware of the interactive tutorial for vo? To start the tutorial press command vof8. It's divided into several sections with a section to practice what's been discssed for that particular tutorial section. Since you're in the tutorial, you don't have to worry about accidently performing some action. Check it out if you haven't already. Don - Original Message - From: Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com To: MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, February 13, 2014 5:26 pm Subject: Navigating in Mountain Lion with VO Need a bit of help. Running Mountain Lion on Macbook. I cannot seem to grasp what VO commands to use to move between, say the sidebar and view browser in a Finder window. Been a Windows user for too many years. Thanks for any assistance here. Quote of the nanosecond . . . A backward poet writes inverse. Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Navigating in Mountain Lion with VO
Yes, it's your system or account password. You should only be asked this the first time. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 13, 2014, at 10:57 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: I will remember that one once I get past an issue that stumps me. I put Dropbox on the Mac. Now when I want to access it, I am asked for the computer password. Is that the same as the login password? I never entered that as far as I can recall. I am really lost and am gonna take a break from it. LOL Quote of the nanosecond . . . Oxymoron: Original copy Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/13/2014 5:32 PM, John Panarese wrote: The easiest way to jump between the sidebar and the browser window in Finder is to use control-option-j. It automatically interacts for you and saves you steps. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 13, 2014, at 8:26 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Need a bit of help. Running Mountain Lion on Macbook. I cannot seem to grasp what VO commands to use to move between, say the sidebar and view browser in a Finder window. Been a Windows user for too many years. Thanks for any assistance here. Quote of the nanosecond . . . A backward poet writes inverse. Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Navigating in Mountain Lion with VO
Good grief. I am given a hint that I probably entered but its too vague. Heh. Will I get locked out after so many failed attemtps? Quote of the nanosecond . . . A smile is the same in any language. Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/13/2014 8:04 PM, John Panarese wrote: Yes, it's your system or account password. You should only be asked this the first time. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 13, 2014, at 10:57 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: I will remember that one once I get past an issue that stumps me. I put Dropbox on the Mac. Now when I want to access it, I am asked for the computer password. Is that the same as the login password? I never entered that as far as I can recall. I am really lost and am gonna take a break from it. LOL Quote of the nanosecond . . . Oxymoron: Original copy Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/13/2014 5:32 PM, John Panarese wrote: The easiest way to jump between the sidebar and the browser window in Finder is to use control-option-j. It automatically interacts for you and saves you steps. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 13, 2014, at 8:26 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Need a bit of help. Running Mountain Lion on Macbook. I cannot seem to grasp what VO commands to use to move between, say the sidebar and view browser in a Finder window. Been a Windows user for too many years. Thanks for any assistance here. Quote of the nanosecond . . . A backward poet writes inverse. Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Navigating in Mountain Lion with VO
Robert, Do you happen to have a bluetooth neckloop. Mine works very well. Don't useit much now that I've lived with the speech for a while, but it was a real when getting started. Also I had to adjust some of the speech settings for better understandability, especially the intonation setting, but the settings really are personal. I do suggest playing around with them though. I haven't tried this myself, but you might also get a wired loop to work through theheadphone jack. Just some ideas. At first, I alsoslowed the speech rate down a bit, but I've gotten used to it, so havespeeded it back up. Don - Original Message - From: Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, February 13, 2014 8:02 pm Subject: Re: Navigating in Mountain Lion with VO Hi Don, We seem to both get around, dont we? Yes I have played with the tutorial a few times, but due to hearing, did not get a lot from it. I wont have any regrets either once I get past this roadblock. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Oxymoron: Rock garden Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/13/2014 5:41 PM, don bishop wrote: Hi Robert, Glad to see you here. I made the switch from windows a few months ago and haven't regretted it. Are you aware of the interactive tutorial for vo? To start the tutorial press command vof8. It's divided into several sections with a section to practice what's been discssed for that particular tutorial section. Since you're in the tutorial, you don't have to worry about accidently performing some action. Check it out if you haven't already. Don - Original Message - From: Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com To: MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, February 13, 2014 5:26 pm Subject: Navigating in Mountain Lion with VO Need a bit of help. Running Mountain Lion on Macbook. I cannot seem to grasp what VO commands to use to move between, say the sidebar and view browser in a Finder window. Been a Windows user for too many years. Thanks for any assistance here. Quote of the nanosecond . . . A backward poet writes inverse. Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Navigating in Mountain Lion with VO
Don, Yes, have done that and found Alex the perfect voice tho I usually prefer female. Could buy more voices but was told Mavericks has better ones already so will wait until I upgrade, which will be a while. When I know what I will hear, I get it pretty well. Also have been using the VO w-w command tho it goes faster than the speech rate I set. Oh and the neckloop, yes got those too. Right now using wired. Quote of the nanosecond . . . NyQuil - The stuffy, sneezy, coughing, why-oh-why-is-the-room- spinning medicine. Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/13/2014 8:46 PM, don bishop wrote: Robert, Do you happen to have a bluetooth neckloop. Mine works very well. Don't useit much now that I've lived with the speech for a while, but it was a real when getting started. Also I had to adjust some of the speech settings for better understandability, especially the intonation setting, but the settings really are personal. I do suggest playing around with them though. I haven't tried this myself, but you might also get a wired loop to work through theheadphone jack. Just some ideas. At first, I alsoslowed the speech rate down a bit, but I've gotten used to it, so havespeeded it back up. Don - Original Message - From: Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, February 13, 2014 8:02 pm Subject: Re: Navigating in Mountain Lion with VO Hi Don, We seem to both get around, dont we? Yes I have played with the tutorial a few times, but due to hearing, did not get a lot from it. I wont have any regrets either once I get past this roadblock. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Oxymoron: Rock garden Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/13/2014 5:41 PM, don bishop wrote: Hi Robert, Glad to see you here. I made the switch from windows a few months ago and haven't regretted it. Are you aware of the interactive tutorial for vo? To start the tutorial press command vof8. It's divided into several sections with a section to practice what's been discssed for that particular tutorial section. Since you're in the tutorial, you don't have to worry about accidently performing some action. Check it out if you haven't already. Don - Original Message - From: Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com To: MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, February 13, 2014 5:26 pm Subject: Navigating in Mountain Lion with VO Need a bit of help. Running Mountain Lion on Macbook. I cannot seem to grasp what VO commands to use to move between, say the sidebar and view browser in a Finder window. Been a Windows user for too many years. Thanks for any assistance here. Quote of the nanosecond . . . A backward poet writes inverse. Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
About to tear my hair out trying to search in iTunes Store on My old MacBook with Mountain Lion and iTunes
Hello all. Although Apple claims that one has access to purchased movies across devices through iCloud, this is apparently not true if you download originally on your iPhone. So, I got Apple to reestablish the ability to purchase the movie I originally downloaded to my iPHone via the iTunes store. Now, however, I cannot get to the movie. I cannot find a search box anywhere. I select movies, then action and adventure from the pop-up menu, but I cannot locate the search box. I have tried looking under browse, explore, and quick links. I have gone through headings, links, etc., with the rotor. I have typed in the word search using search, but am getting that annoying error sound. I can determine absolutely no way of finding this movie on my MacBook. I have done a Google search trying to locate workarounds. If someone can assist, I would appreciate it. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: About to tear my hair out trying to search in iTunes Store on My old MacBook with Mountain Lion and iTunes
Check your library. The key for entering the search is command+F. IF you are using the new standard view, you want to look just to the right of the search box. There is a pop up menu which, when you open it, will take you to different parts of your library. Also, you might want to make sure that show content for Icloud is turned on. This, I believe, is done from the store menu. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Jan 25, 2014, at 9:40 AM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all. Although Apple claims that one has access to purchased movies across devices through iCloud, this is apparently not true if you download originally on your iPhone. So, I got Apple to reestablish the ability to purchase the movie I originally downloaded to my iPHone via the iTunes store. Now, however, I cannot get to the movie. I cannot find a search box anywhere. I select movies, then action and adventure from the pop-up menu, but I cannot locate the search box. I have tried looking under browse, explore, and quick links. I have gone through headings, links, etc., with the rotor. I have typed in the word search using search, but am getting that annoying error sound. I can determine absolutely no way of finding this movie on my MacBook. I have done a Google search trying to locate workarounds. If someone can assist, I would appreciate it. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: About to tear my hair out trying to search in iTunes Store on My old MacBook with Mountain Lion and iTunes
Sorry. I should have been more clear; I can search in my library; I can't search the store itself. Christine On Jan 25, 2014, at 11:19 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Check your library. The key for entering the search is command+F. IF you are using the new standard view, you want to look just to the right of the search box. There is a pop up menu which, when you open it, will take you to different parts of your library. Also, you might want to make sure that show content for Icloud is turned on. This, I believe, is done from the store menu. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Jan 25, 2014, at 9:40 AM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all. Although Apple claims that one has access to purchased movies across devices through iCloud, this is apparently not true if you download originally on your iPhone. So, I got Apple to reestablish the ability to purchase the movie I originally downloaded to my iPHone via the iTunes store. Now, however, I cannot get to the movie. I cannot find a search box anywhere. I select movies, then action and adventure from the pop-up menu, but I cannot locate the search box. I have tried looking under browse, explore, and quick links. I have gone through headings, links, etc., with the rotor. I have typed in the word search using search, but am getting that annoying error sound. I can determine absolutely no way of finding this movie on my MacBook. I have done a Google search trying to locate workarounds. If someone can assist, I would appreciate it. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: About to tear my hair out trying to search in iTunes Store on My old MacBook with Mountain Lion and iTunes
Searching the store? Easy. First, you need to press the go to store button. The pages will open. Now, just press Cmd+F and it puts you right in the search box. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Jan 25, 2014, at 10:37 AM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry. I should have been more clear; I can search in my library; I can't search the store itself. Christine On Jan 25, 2014, at 11:19 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Check your library. The key for entering the search is command+F. IF you are using the new standard view, you want to look just to the right of the search box. There is a pop up menu which, when you open it, will take you to different parts of your library. Also, you might want to make sure that show content for Icloud is turned on. This, I believe, is done from the store menu. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Jan 25, 2014, at 9:40 AM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all. Although Apple claims that one has access to purchased movies across devices through iCloud, this is apparently not true if you download originally on your iPhone. So, I got Apple to reestablish the ability to purchase the movie I originally downloaded to my iPHone via the iTunes store. Now, however, I cannot get to the movie. I cannot find a search box anywhere. I select movies, then action and adventure from the pop-up menu, but I cannot locate the search box. I have tried looking under browse, explore, and quick links. I have gone through headings, links, etc., with the rotor. I have typed in the word search using search, but am getting that annoying error sound. I can determine absolutely no way of finding this movie on my MacBook. I have done a Google search trying to locate workarounds. If someone can assist, I would appreciate it. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: About to tear my hair out trying to search in iTunes Store on My old MacBook with Mountain Lion and iTunes
Hi here is a tip, when searching the library press option-enter instead to search the store, enter only searches the library. Regards Chris On 25/01/2014 16:37, Christine Grassman wrote: Sorry. I should have been more clear; I can search in my library; I can't search the store itself. Christine On Jan 25, 2014, at 11:19 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Check your library. The key for entering the search is command+F. IF you are using the new standard view, you want to look just to the right of the search box. There is a pop up menu which, when you open it, will take you to different parts of your library. Also, you might want to make sure that show content for Icloud is turned on. This, I believe, is done from the store menu. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Jan 25, 2014, at 9:40 AM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all. Although Apple claims that one has access to purchased movies across devices through iCloud, this is apparently not true if you download originally on your iPhone. So, I got Apple to reestablish the ability to purchase the movie I originally downloaded to my iPHone via the iTunes store. Now, however, I cannot get to the movie. I cannot find a search box anywhere. I select movies, then action and adventure from the pop-up menu, but I cannot locate the search box. I have tried looking under browse, explore, and quick links. I have gone through headings, links, etc., with the rotor. I have typed in the word search using search, but am getting that annoying error sound. I can determine absolutely no way of finding this movie on my MacBook. I have done a Google search trying to locate workarounds. If someone can assist, I would appreciate it. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: About to tear my hair out trying to search in iTunes Store on My old MacBook with Mountain Lion and iTunes
Didn't work for me last night or this morning, after updating iTunes. I'll try again. Christine On Jan 25, 2014, at 1:47 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Searching the store? Easy. First, you need to press the go to store button. The pages will open. Now, just press Cmd+F and it puts you right in the search box. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Jan 25, 2014, at 10:37 AM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry. I should have been more clear; I can search in my library; I can't search the store itself. Christine On Jan 25, 2014, at 11:19 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Check your library. The key for entering the search is command+F. IF you are using the new standard view, you want to look just to the right of the search box. There is a pop up menu which, when you open it, will take you to different parts of your library. Also, you might want to make sure that show content for Icloud is turned on. This, I believe, is done from the store menu. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Jan 25, 2014, at 9:40 AM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all. Although Apple claims that one has access to purchased movies across devices through iCloud, this is apparently not true if you download originally on your iPhone. So, I got Apple to reestablish the ability to purchase the movie I originally downloaded to my iPHone via the iTunes store. Now, however, I cannot get to the movie. I cannot find a search box anywhere. I select movies, then action and adventure from the pop-up menu, but I cannot locate the search box. I have tried looking under browse, explore, and quick links. I have gone through headings, links, etc., with the rotor. I have typed in the word search using search, but am getting that annoying error sound. I can determine absolutely no way of finding this movie on my MacBook. I have done a Google search trying to locate workarounds. If someone can assist, I would appreciate it. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: lion is pretty good
Hi, I have someupdates regarding the topic of operating systems on the mac. I since had to buy 2 chargers including the one i posted about because they broke. Ever since the last post, I've updated to Mavrics on my mac and has been great. the integration of iCloud with my mac and iPhone has been a lot easier since i can readily access my reminders mail and contacts on both computer and phone simultaneously. I also got a new bag to carry my laptop around when I go to my internships and it fits my braille display with its other components and papers pretty easily with room to spare which is necessary since I commuted from home to the city. It does get heavy because of the equipment I need to lug around which sometimes makes me sore, but it's worth the effort to be productive. Maybe I should lighten the load a bit, but I need most of the stuff to get me through the day. Best, Priscilla -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
CTIVO and Mountain Lion
Hi: This app works very well with transferring from a Tivo to a Macbook Pro running ML. The app will automatically convert to decripted Tivo shows, and separate series in to sub folders. I haven't played with editing advertisements. Just FYI. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Two New Weird Problems in Mountain Lion
All of the sudden the last few days I got two weird new issues. iTunes just opens in the background. I have no clue why this is happening. The other when I put my computer to sleep in Mountain Lion on an iMac 2010 with command option F12 or whatever the key is right after the F12 key my computer a minute or two awakes. I have been putting my computer to sleep like this for years. I now have to mute VO and just leave it on all night. Any clue to what could be happening here? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Two New Weird Problems in Mountain Lion
Hi Brian, The key beside the f12 is the Eject key. Check in the Energy Saver System Pref pane, in the Power Adaptor tab, make sure the “Wake for Network Access” is not checked. This normally isn’t supposed to affect your machine if it is not plugged in but it could be a bug. Alternatively, if you have one of the newer units that can “Power Nap”, it could be waking for some backing up or syncing process that can occur during it’s nap. Later… Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Dec 19, 2013, at 1:39 AM, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: All of the sudden the last few days I got two weird new issues. iTunes just opens in the background. I have no clue why this is happening. The other when I put my computer to sleep in Mountain Lion on an iMac 2010 with command option F12 or whatever the key is right after the F12 key my computer a minute or two awakes. I have been putting my computer to sleep like this for years. I now have to mute VO and just leave it on all night. Any clue to what could be happening here? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Two New Weird Problems in Mountain Lion
As for iTunes launching, my first thoughts are that you may have plugged in an iDevice, or have pressed an iTunes media key or a button on a remote for your bluetooth speakers. Cheers, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Saving attachments in Lion
Hi all. I'm running Lion on my macbook. I receive the today show as a podcast in my email. How can I save the mp3 file to listen to it on my victor reader stream? When I try to save attachments in the file menu it says that option is dimmed. Thanks for any help. Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: What is the name of Nuance's voices called in Mountain Lion?
Hi Brian, no problem. Completely understand what you mean about on the look out for new voices. I would be too. lol Have a good day. Daniel On 3 Dec 2013, at 02:13, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Sean, already doing that, just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing out on some new voices. Appreciate it. On Dec 2, 2013, at 2:00 PM, BBS bigbigshawn@gmail.com wrote: Hi Brian. Starting with OS X Lion, to download the Vocalizer Automotive voices in ML, open the Voiceover Utility. In the categories select speech and look for the popup button that has all your voices in it. Arrow down once in the pop up or press C U for customize. There you should see a table with voices you can download from Nuance Vocalizer Automotive in ML or Expressive in Mavericks. HTH. -- Shawn Sent From My White MacBook Using SamNet -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: What is the name of Nuance's voices called in Mountain Lion?
Hi Shawn, interesting. I wonder if Nuance have brought those extra voices then. I personally wouldn't use them myself but its good to know that there around for someone who may like those voices. I have another question if I may. Basically, in the other world of computers I was using Windows and have a purchase copy licence of Jaws 12. With this version of Jaws it was using the real speak solo direct version of Nuance. If you know, could you tell me say what version of this TTS engine this is in Nuance's terms and how many versions does it differ from Mountain Lion which I'm using on my Mac. Anyone for that matter if you know then feel free to inform me. Thank you Daniel On 2 Dec 2013, at 18:54, BBS bigbigshawn@gmail.com wrote: Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: What is the name of Nuance's voices called in Mountain Lion?
Hi Daniel. I can't remember but I think Jaws used version 4 of RealSpeak solo. As for those extra voices you talk about, they're available in Mavericks. -- Shawn Sent From My White MacBook Using SamNet -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: What is the name of Nuance's voices called in Mountain Lion?
Hi Shawn, thanks for the info you provided. I know you said you can't remember but I was just wondering how do you know which version they were before vocalizer expressive came along? If that makes sense. Thanks On 3 Dec 2013, at 22:56, BBS bigbigshawn@gmail.com wrote: Hi Daniel. I can't remember but I think Jaws used version 4 of RealSpeak solo. As for those extra voices you talk about, they're available in Mavericks. -- Shawn Sent From My White MacBook Using SamNet -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: What is the name of Nuance's voices called in Mountain Lion?
Hi Daniel. I think that it's version 4 because Nuance after that made Vocalizer Automotive which you can also download in Jaws. But if you have any other questions about voices for Jaws I'd suggest you write me off list as we're kinda straying off topic here. -- Shawn Sent From My White MacBook Using SamNet -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
What is the name of Nuance's voices called in Mountain Lion?
Hi all, a quick question. Its purpose being just simply curiosity. Using Mountain Lion what is the name of the Nuances voices actually called in this version of the OS? For instence, I understand it to be Vocalizer Expressive in Mavericks. I may have some follow-up questions down the line but this 1st will do for now. Thank you Daniel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: What is the name of Nuance's voices called in Mountain Lion?
Hi Daniel. In Mountain Lion it's Vocalizer Automotive version 5. -- Shawn Sent From My White MacBook Using SamNet -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: What is the name of Nuance's voices called in Mountain Lion?
How do you know if this is the voice that is installed, as I think I just have names of voices. Where can I go to get new voices on Mountain Lion? Thanks On Dec 2, 2013, at 1:25 PM, BBS bigbigshawn@gmail.com wrote: Hi Daniel. In Mountain Lion it's Vocalizer Automotive version 5. -- Shawn Sent From My White MacBook Using SamNet -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: What is the name of Nuance's voices called in Mountain Lion?
Hi Sean, thank you. If you are using Mavericks, in your experience how would you compare the difference between Vocalizer Automotive version 5 to the newer version vocaliser expressive? On 2 Dec 2013, at 18:25, BBS bigbigshawn@gmail.com wrote: Hi Daniel. In Mountain Lion it's Vocalizer Automotive version 5. -- Shawn Sent From My White MacBook Using SamNet -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: What is the name of Nuance's voices called in Mountain Lion?
Hi Daniel. Well, in Vocalizer expressive they've made more voices, including 4 voices that used to be in Loquendo, Alison, Susan, Kate and Vina. Also they improved the voice quality to some of the voices like the Australian Karen voice. -- Shawn Sent From My White MacBook Using SamNet -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: What is the name of Nuance's voices called in Mountain Lion?
Hi Brian, I was asking about the actual name/version of the TTS's that Nuance are using with Mountain Lion. So, my question was more about the name of the version that Nuance call them on Mountain Lion. Not the actual names of the individual voices you can get e.g. Karen, Samantha etc. I hope this makes sense. Sorry if I've comfused you. lol You can find out about your voices by going to VO utility, speech in the table VO right to the pop up button. open with VO space and arrow down to custom VO space again. A new dialog box should open. navigate to the search field and type in here the word english and after that you should have all the english voices you can use with Voiceover. hth Daniel On 2 Dec 2013, at 18:33, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: How do you know if this is the voice that is installed, as I think I just have names of voices. Where can I go to get new voices on Mountain Lion? Thanks On Dec 2, 2013, at 1:25 PM, BBS bigbigshawn@gmail.com wrote: Hi Daniel. In Mountain Lion it's Vocalizer Automotive version 5. -- Shawn Sent From My White MacBook Using SamNet -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: What is the name of Nuance's voices called in Mountain Lion?
Hi Brian. Starting with OS X Lion, to download the Vocalizer Automotive voices in ML, open the Voiceover Utility. In the categories select speech and look for the popup button that has all your voices in it. Arrow down once in the pop up or press C U for customize. There you should see a table with voices you can download from Nuance Vocalizer Automotive in ML or Expressive in Mavericks. HTH. -- Shawn Sent From My White MacBook Using SamNet -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: What is the name of Nuance's voices called in Mountain Lion?
Hey Daniel, No worries, just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing out on some better voices as I am constantly hearing about people buying voices, so was curious to where people have been getting them. I am still running Mountain Lion. I know where the voices are listed just wanted to make sure there wasn't something new I missed. Thanks. On Dec 2, 2013, at 1:54 PM, Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Brian, I was asking about the actual name/version of the TTS's that Nuance are using with Mountain Lion. So, my question was more about the name of the version that Nuance call them on Mountain Lion. Not the actual names of the individual voices you can get e.g. Karen, Samantha etc. I hope this makes sense. Sorry if I've comfused you. lol You can find out about your voices by going to VO utility, speech in the table VO right to the pop up button. open with VO space and arrow down to custom VO space again. A new dialog box should open. navigate to the search field and type in here the word english and after that you should have all the english voices you can use with Voiceover. hth Daniel On 2 Dec 2013, at 18:33, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: How do you know if this is the voice that is installed, as I think I just have names of voices. Where can I go to get new voices on Mountain Lion? Thanks On Dec 2, 2013, at 1:25 PM, BBS bigbigshawn@gmail.com wrote: Hi Daniel. In Mountain Lion it's Vocalizer Automotive version 5. -- Shawn Sent From My White MacBook Using SamNet -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
