Re: [MBZ] OT: Browser that's a close approximation of IE page displays?

2006-01-20 Thread dave walton
My experience has been that the 10% who refuse to run the Microsoft
browser will account for 90% of your customer service problems.

-Dave Walton
94S350, 99E300

On 1/15/06, Lee Einer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am suprised that you lost IE on a Windoze system. I mean, I am
 surprised you were able to. It used to be that deletion of IE would
 completely disable the Windows operating system.

 If you have high speed internet access, you can download the Mepis ISO
 from www.mepis.com and burn it to a CD. The CD is live, meaning that you
 can then boot to the CD and it will run Linux straight off the CD
 without installing anything on your hard drive. If you have a high speed
 internet connection, Mepis should detect this also and give you internet
 connectivity straightaway. You can try the Konqueror browser on Mepis- I
 have found that it often does a better job of rendering MicroSoft
 created pages than does Mozilla and others.

 When I am in this position, I also like to take a few minutes to e-mail
 the webmaster, let him know that IE Explorer currently holds less than
 90% of the browser market, and suggest that unless he wants to lose 10%
 or more of his business he needs to make the site browser-agnostic.

 Zeitgeist wrote:

 Win XP
 
 Had to give up on Opera, cuz it wasn't operating correctly within the
 system.  Damn, this is maddening!
 
 On 1/15/06, Lee Einer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 I have had luck with Konqueror.
 
 What OS are you running?
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Premium Gas or Not?

2006-01-20 Thread Hendrik Riessen

Look in the owners manual and all will be revealed.
The problem is that low octane fuel will make the engine run like poo 
because the thing will retard itself to compensate and therefore you will 
have less power and higher fuel consumption.
I run my 230E on 95 octane (over here 91 is standard and 98 is ultra 
premium) which it seems happy with. I have tried 91 but it sounds like a 
diesel (no self retardation in the K-jetronic setup) and with 98 there seems 
to be no difference when compared to 95.


Hendrik

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Subject: [MBZ] Premium Gas or Not?



I have not had a gas Mercedes since 1998 and it was a 1971 (that
originally ran on regular i.e. leaded gas), so I am not clear on the
premium gas requirement on newer gasser MB's.   Do I really need to run
premium in my 1990 300SEL?   I am pretty sure the simple answer will be
yes. Just wondering if anyone had thoughts on this issue.



Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL 122K arriving soon.

1992 Olds 98 Regency 121K FOR SALE CHEAP

1998 Ford Explorer 97K  (Wife's car)

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Re: [MBZ] mistakes ... now OR gas rant

2006-01-20 Thread Jim Cathey
fit in right for the cutoff to work (however it works) - I've observed 
some

motorcyclists holding the nozzle at odd angles etc  I also seem to
remember something about the law being amended on safety grounds with


Bikes are too hard for the usual MPJ to be able to figure out the
nuances of each one.  So they, in a fit of sensibility, let the
owners do it as they _are_ better trained on that particular bike!
It has everything to do with spilling gas all over, whether on
shiny paint or not.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Premium Gas or Not?

2006-01-20 Thread Hendrik Riessen

Not only power but mileage as well.
87 is cat wee not fit for Benz consumption.
It has to be remembered that Merc engines are build well and need good food 
to do well. If you want to cheap out buy a cheap brand car.
By the way, the later engines are self adjusting as far as timing goes so 
there is no need to get the timing light out.


Hendrik

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On Jan 19, 2006, at 4:02 PM, Tom Hargrave wrote:


I wonder if the 420SEL or 560SEL will run on less than premium and
if so,
what is the minimum octane rating that these engines will run? I
run a lot
of miles  /year and I've started to see some deals with both cars.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave


You could probably screw around with ignition timing and get away
with 87 octane. You'll lose a little power but that's the way the
cookie crumbles.

Johnny B
iMac therefore I am



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Browser that's a close approximation of IE page displays?

2006-01-20 Thread Peter Frederick
Not to start an argument, but the reason non-IE users have trouble is 
IE/Microsoft -- they are almost as bad as Apple for strange 
implementations of standards.  This is not an accident, but 
deliberate attempts to prevent anyone else developing a usable product.


I don't use IE for several reasons (mostly lousy support for my Macs, 
but also  ActiveX virus susecptibilty) -- I strongly resent web pages 
and so forth that won't run properly on other people's browsers, most 
of which outperform IE when incompatible code is removed.


If I'm forced to quite using Macs, I will switch to Linux -- the hassle 
of making Unix operate is more than worth the effort to get free of 
Microsoft.


'nough said.

Peter




[MBZ] MBCA Route 66

2006-01-20 Thread Howard Fulford
Anyone need a navigator for the MBCA Route 66 drive ?


Howard Fulford
Bath
England

190E '89, 137658 miles



Re: [MBZ] R/E list disappearances

2006-01-20 Thread Hendrik Riessen

Correction, was the Ritter/Easley list.
Is now the Ritter/van Cleef list.
Also I was not booted but left voluntarily (in protest) just in case anyone 
cares.


Hendrik

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It's the Ritter/Easley list.

Started by Stu Ritter  Richard Easley and based at some University id
TX, I think.

Jeff Zedic
Toronto

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Re: [MBZ] Premium Gas or Not?

2006-01-20 Thread Peter Frederick

My rule of thumb on the octane issue is thus:

If you have KE-Jetronic and no knock sensor, do NOT use anything but 
premium on the highway.  Midgrade is OK around town, but you really 
need the knock protection on the interstate as the engine cannot retard 
the ignition timing if it knocks.  Burnt valves is the usual result.


On later models with LH-Jetronic and knock sensors, remember that 
retarding the timing will reduce both power and milage -- you will have 
to run both, keep accurate records, and decide whether the lower price 
is actually a savings for you own particular circumstances.  I know 
that on several of my older cars, including my Mom's old Fairmont 
station wagon and the work van (with 300,000 miles on it!), the 
accumulation of crud on the piston crowns raised the compression ratio 
enough that regular rattled pretty badly.  Premium cured the spark 
knock, and the increase in power and milage more than paid the 
difference.


It is entirely possible to have the milage drop so badly from retarded 
timing that it's more expensive to run regular than premium.  You also 
risk damage to the catalytic convertor/oxygen sensor running late 
timing on acceleration all the time.


Peter




Re: [MBZ] Sprinter Registration...

2006-01-20 Thread Christopher McCann
i plan to buy one in the future - 3-4 years.
  
  You can buy the kit for the do-dads.
  
  I mentioned this to a friend and he asked me how it would be titled and  I 
didn't know, so I asked. I imagine it would be Dodge if Dodge and  Fliner if 
fliner, but that might be funny if you get pulled over and  the cop pulls up a 
Dodge sprinter on the MULES system and you are  clearly driving a Mercedes.
  
  Chris

Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Chris,

Is this a hypothetical discussion  or have you placed your order for  
a Sprinter and want the MB do-dads factory installed???

Just an inquiring mind...

Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix, AZ
1980 300SD

On Jan 19, 2006, at 3:43 PM, Christopher McCann wrote:

 except there is a difference - there's NOTHING on a Dodge sprinter  
 that is not MB EXCEPT the do-dads

   Chris

 Kevin J. Slater  wrote:  My bet would be it  
 would be registered as it was sold originally, Dodge,
 Freightliner or Mercedes; but Mercedes isn't selling them in the US,
 right?

 The do-dads are just that, external emblems. You don't think all those
 boy-racers that put a big R in their Civic's back window get to  
 register
 them as Acura's, do you?  ;-)

 ...Kevin

 Christopher McCann said:
 So does a Sprinter get registered as a Dodge,  Freightliner or  
 Merc? What
 if all the Dodge do-dads are gone and  replaced with stars?  
 (kit's about
 $250, grille, badges, wheel caps,  steering wheel emblem, everything)




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Re: [MBZ] Bimota?? (was: Wheel Upgrade?)

2006-01-20 Thread BimotaBiker

Dave,

My 1997 Bimota YB-11 that just turned over 4000 miles last fall will be up for 
auction on Ebay in tyhe next month or so.  When my wife and I ride, we take my 
Bimota Mantra because it is more comfortable for her.  If your interested, or 
know someone who is, let me know.

Sincerely,

-Scott 

 



Re: [MBZ] OT: Genset

2006-01-20 Thread David Brodbeck

Jim Cathey wrote:

generator.  It was incredibly big and loud, appealing.  I never
understood the 400Hz aspect of aircraft power but there you go.



I think it has to do with smaller, lighter magnetics.
  


Yes, exactly.  The amount of core steel you need in things like 
transformers is inversely related to the frequency.  It has to do with 
the core saturating more easily at lower frequencies.  The tradeoff is 
the losses due to hysteresis in the core and skin effect in the 
conductors become higher, so you're trading off weight for efficiency.




Re: [MBZ] Sprinter Registration...

2006-01-20 Thread David Brodbeck

Luther Gulseth wrote:

if a male dresses in female clothes, applys makeup, and looks female, is he 
really female?
  


That's actually a pretty complicated question, if you delve into it far 
enough.




[MBZ] 190DT Head Gasket

2006-01-20 Thread frederick w moir

Hi, All.
	I'm planning on doing the head gasket (to music wearing funny blue 
clothes) on my '87 190DT this weekend and I've a few question to ask about 
what i may find:-
1.  Turbo oil supply, is it just remove and replace? 'o' rings? No suitable 
o-rings in gasket set or midget gaskets either.
2.  Assuming that the head has not been grossly overheated, may the head be 
just cleaned, checked for cracks and flatness and re-installed?

3.  Anyone with pearls of wisdom please respond. (I know I'm asking for it.)
TIA
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
84 190D Ugly engine
85 300TD Nice
87 190DT Oil in the Water
85 190E Organ Donor





Re: [MBZ] tinting question

2006-01-20 Thread David Brodbeck

Christopher McCann wrote:

35% is the max for front two windows in Missouri - other windows can be as dark 
as you want.
  
  1. will it interfere with the rear defrost? (good shop is doing the work)
  


It shouldn't.  I even have a piece of that static-cling type tint film 
in my rear window and the defogger works just fine under it.  (Well, the 
three remaining working wires do.  But the other ones were bad before I 
put the film on. ;) )

  2. I'm thinking 35% in front and ...not sure the rest. I want it dark, but I 
want to be able to see out too...50%, 60%?...
  


I used to have a Ford van with a very deep factory tint in the rear.  
I'm not sure how dark it was, but probably over 50% -- you couldn't see 
in from the outside.  During daylight it was fine.  At night I felt like 
I needed brighter reverse lights.





Re: [MBZ] R/E list disappearances

2006-01-20 Thread Hans Neureiter
Baylor, extremely babtist.

On 1/19/06, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It's the Ritter/Easley list.

 Started by Stu Ritter  Richard Easley and based at some University id
 TX, I think.

 Jeff Zedic
 Toronto

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Browser that's a close approximation of IE page displays?

2006-01-20 Thread David Brodbeck

Peter Frederick wrote:
Not to start an argument, but the reason non-IE users have trouble is 
IE/Microsoft -- they are almost as bad as Apple for strange 
implementations of standards.  This is not an accident, but 
deliberate attempts to prevent anyone else developing a usable product.
  


There are also a few people I know who run Firefox out of necessity.  If 
IE happens to break, fixing it can be very difficult.  Because it's part 
of the OS, you can't just remove it and then reinstall it.  Using 
Firefox is sometimes a more expedient option than reinstalling Windows 
to get IE working again.





Re: [MBZ] Premium Gas or Not?

2006-01-20 Thread mykd1
Hey Peter, I've always found that a good rule to follow regarding octane is the 
higher the engine compression the higher the octane. High octane fuel burns 
slower which allows for a more complete combustion. Most engines with a 10-1 or 
higher compression require higher octane fuel because it burns slower and 
because higher compression engines will knock severely if the fuel burns to fast
just my 2 cents 
 
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From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:18:15 -0600
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Premium Gas or Not?


My rule of thumb on the octane issue is thus:

If you have KE-Jetronic and no knock sensor, do NOT use anything but 
premium on the highway.  Midgrade is OK around town, but you really 
need the knock protection on the interstate as the engine cannot retard 
the ignition timing if it knocks.  Burnt valves is the usual result.

On later models with LH-Jetronic and knock sensors, remember that 
retarding the timing will reduce both power and milage -- you will have 
to run both, keep accurate records, and decide whether the lower price 
is actually a savings for you own particular circumstances.  I know 
that on several of my older cars, including my Mom's old Fairmont 
station wagon and the work van (with 300,000 miles on it!), the 
accumulation of crud on the piston crowns raised the compression ratio 
enough that regular rattled pretty badly.  Premium cured the spark 
knock, and the increase in power and milage more than paid the 
difference.

It is entirely possible to have the milage drop so badly from retarded 
timing that it's more expensive to run regular than premium.  You also 
risk damage to the catalytic convertor/oxygen sensor running late 
timing on acceleration all the time.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] tinting question

2006-01-20 Thread BillR
 Some personal experience - Moderate tint on the wife's car made it near
impossible to back up at night.  A decent tint job is very helpful down here
in the sun belt, but can be a danger also.
BillR
Jacksonville FL
1981 300SD  EM  270k
2001 I30  Hers  72K
1996 Sentra  262k

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Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 5:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] tinting question

35% is the max for front two windows in Missouri - other windows can be as
dark as you want.
  
  1. will it interfere with the rear defrost? (good shop is doing the work)
  2. I'm thinking 35% in front and ...not sure the rest. I want it dark, but
I want to be able to see out too...50%, 60%?...
  
  any suggestions  greatly appreciated! 
  


Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri
-2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose
-1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook
-1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen
-1985 300SD, 211K, Wulf 
-1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen)
-1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent
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Re: [MBZ] R/E list disappearances

2006-01-20 Thread LT Don
I might try, but my income level is WAY below the norm there and my only
Benz is a '77 240D. I do however have a B.A. from God's Military Academy so
I might be shown the secret handshake.

On 1/19/06, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 For those who want to try, or try again, as the case may be:

 http://www.mercedeslist.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes

 Take care,

 Chuck
 On Jan 19, 2006, at 8:00 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:

  Loren Faeth wrote:
 
  I may be one of the few people who never got booted off the R/E list.
 
  I applied in 2002 and got absolutely no response. I don't know if
  that means I set a record for the speediest boot or was never booted.
 
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Re: [MBZ] R/E list disappearances

2006-01-20 Thread LT Don
I see their Baylor and raise them four years at www.bju.edu!

On 1/20/06, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Baylor, extremely babtist.

 On 1/19/06, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  It's the Ritter/Easley list.
 
  Started by Stu Ritter  Richard Easley and based at some University id
  TX, I think.
 
  Jeff Zedic
  Toronto
 
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Re: [MBZ] tinting question

2006-01-20 Thread Bob Rentfro
Gotta make sure whatever you do it's within the law. Here in AZ you can have 
limo tint on everything except the drivers and passengers window (I think)


Bob Rentfro
'77 200D 148K
'01 VW Beetle TDI 61K
Litchfield Park, AZ


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] tinting question


Some personal experience - Moderate tint on the wife's car made it near
impossible to back up at night.  A decent tint job is very helpful down here
in the sun belt, but can be a danger also.
BillR
Jacksonville FL
1981 300SD  EM  270k
2001 I30  Hers  72K
1996 Sentra  262k

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On Behalf Of Christopher McCann
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 5:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] tinting question

35% is the max for front two windows in Missouri - other windows can be as
dark as you want.

 1. will it interfere with the rear defrost? (good shop is doing the work)
 2. I'm thinking 35% in front and ...not sure the rest. I want it dark, but
I want to be able to see out too...50%, 60%?...

 any suggestions  greatly appreciated!



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Re: [MBZ] R/E list disappearances

2006-01-20 Thread Chuck Landenberger

It's Baptist... I'm not one, but SO WHAT?

On Jan 19, 2006, at 6:06 PM, Hans Neureiter wrote:


Baylor, extremely babtist.

On 1/19/06, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


It's the Ritter/Easley list.

Started by Stu Ritter  Richard Easley and based at some  
University id

TX, I think.

Jeff Zedic
Toronto

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[MBZ] someone knows this

2006-01-20 Thread Hans Neureiter
I need to trouble shoot my fuel gauge/sender on the 126. Reads full at full
tank and a little below 1/2 when the reserve light comes on.
What are the specified resistance values at the full/empty positions of the
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Re: [MBZ] ribs

2006-01-20 Thread OK Don
Did you collect the grease from their fryers while you were there?

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 m, barbeque ribs make for a damn good lunch!

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Re: [MBZ] tinting question

2006-01-20 Thread Christopher McCann
Bob, right. that was the first sentence, but maybe  not clear. I checked up on 
that. 35% in front (obviously not the front  WINDSHIELD) and no regulation on 
the rest of the windows.
  
  Chris

Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Gotta make sure whatever you do it's 
within the law. Here in AZ you can have 
limo tint on everything except the drivers and passengers window (I think)

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To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' 
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] tinting question


Some personal experience - Moderate tint on the wife's car made it near
impossible to back up at night.  A decent tint job is very helpful down here
in the sun belt, but can be a danger also.
BillR
Jacksonville FL
1981 300SD  EM  270k
2001 I30  Hers  72K
1996 Sentra  262k

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Subject: [MBZ] tinting question

35% is the max for front two windows in Missouri - other windows can be as
dark as you want.

  1. will it interfere with the rear defrost? (good shop is doing the work)
  2. I'm thinking 35% in front and ...not sure the rest. I want it dark, but
I want to be able to see out too...50%, 60%?...

  any suggestions  greatly appreciated!



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Don - I have never met anyone who could make 4 years of BJU.  My hat 

Re: [MBZ] Oregon gas

2006-01-20 Thread RELNGSON
Since I never buy Oregon gas because of the we-pump-it rule, I was 
apprehensive when I decided to tank up in Ashland, coming from Sacramento in MY 
944 (pic 
on Frappr) about three years ago. The attendant came out, took one look at 
the car, and said You can fill it yourself.

RLE


Re: [MBZ] tinting question

2006-01-20 Thread Christopher McCann
it's a trade off between keeping the car cooler/lesss work for AC, etc and 
safety. Kinda tough call.
  
  Chris

BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Some personal experience - Moderate tint on 
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35% is the max for front two windows in Missouri - other windows can be as
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  1. will it interfere with the rear defrost? (good shop is doing the work)
  2. I'm thinking 35% in front and ...not sure the rest. I want it dark, but
I want to be able to see out too...50%, 60%?...
  
  any suggestions  greatly appreciated! 
  


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If you have any more daughters, you will require a Sprinter just to take
them to mass!

You can paint a name on the front: Chris's Short Bus.

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Re: [MBZ] R/E list disappearances

2006-01-20 Thread Jeff Zedic

Umm, sorry I'm not familiar with these religious universities.
What is BJU?

Is that the religious/philisophical school?? (Brigham Jung University?)

Jeff Zedic
Unedumacated in Toronto



Re: [MBZ] R/E list disappearances

2006-01-20 Thread Bob Rentfro

Chuck added:

It's Baptist... I'm not one, but SO WHAT?

And, on Jan 19, 2006, at 6:06 PM, Hans Neureiter wrote:

 Baylor, extremely babtist.[sic]


There certainly more hardcore Baptist schools out there...

Eventhough Baptists don't do it, I think those guys require you genuflect 
before you sign on...


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Re: [MBZ] R/E list disappearances

2006-01-20 Thread Hans Neureiter
Chuck; you not get to go to Baylor, THAT'S WHAT.
On the upside, you can still say 'Hi' to me when we run in to each other at
the liquor store (Baylor boys don't recognize each other there).

On 1/19/06, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It's Baptist... I'm not one, but SO WHAT?

 On Jan 19, 2006, at 6:06 PM, Hans Neureiter wrote:

  Baylor, extremely babtist.
 
  On 1/19/06, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  It's the Ritter/Easley list.
 
  Started by Stu Ritter  Richard Easley and based at some
  University id
  TX, I think.
 
  Jeff Zedic
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Re: [MBZ] R/E list doings

2006-01-20 Thread RELNGSON
Boy-howdy they were uptight..always felt like I was in church...

I remember the time Easley got all swole up and red when someone made a crack 
about Oral Roberts.

A fine gentleman.

RLE


Re: [MBZ] OT: Cat Stories

2006-01-20 Thread OK Don
OK guys - enough with the cats already.
This is the MERCEDES list, not the CATerpillar list   when WE get
off topic, and onto animals, WE talk about MOOSE! Get back on board!
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cat Stories

2006-01-20 Thread mykd1
I'm jumping in on this too being a long term ASPCA member and the belief that 
killing pets is about as cowardly as anyone could get. some people are just 
sick 
 
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I'm with you John.  Such commetns are beyond the pale.

On 1/19/06, Desert Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Note to Brian Chase:

 You need help. No really, I am serious. It's one thing to act in a
 less civilized manner as you stated but nothing has really changed
 if you think it is OK to tell a group of MB enthusiasts about your
 cowardly acts towards killing pets.

 Kaleb, if you consider this a flame, so be it. Yesterday folks wrote
 this topic off as a jokewell, it ain't funny anymore.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cat Stories

2006-01-20 Thread Hans Neureiter
Do mooses like antifreeze?

On 1/19/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 OK guys - enough with the cats already.
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Re: [MBZ] 190DT Head Gasket

2006-01-20 Thread Kevin
On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 07:59:58PM -0500, frederick w moir wrote:
 Hi, All.
   I'm planning on doing the head gasket (to music wearing funny blue 
 clothes) on my '87 190DT this weekend and I've a few question to ask about 
 what i may find:-
 1.  Turbo oil supply, is it just remove and replace? 'o' rings? No suitable 
 o-rings in gasket set or midget gaskets either.
 2.  Assuming that the head has not been grossly overheated, may the head be 
 just cleaned, checked for cracks and flatness and re-installed?
 3.  Anyone with pearls of wisdom please respond. (I know I'm asking for it.)

Assuming a 602 is like a 603, whatever seal was on the turbo oil supply I
was able to reuse. The head on a 602 is more durable, so the likelihood of 
fatal cracks is pretty low. There might be some cracks, but the head will 
probably still pass a pressure test. Examine the head gasket upon removal,
and see if it was a gasket failure that caused the problem. 

Also assuming a 602 is like a 603, you'll need a pin puller to pull the 
pins that hold the timing chain rail to the head. I made one with a M6-1.0
bolt about two inches long, a handful of flat washers (four to six, I think),
a 3/4 long nipple (from the plumbing section), and a nut that threaded onto
the bolt. This was obviously cheaper than buying the correct tool.

Speaking of tools, you're going to need an XZN (triple square) driver to get 
the head bolts off. If you reuse the head bolts, you'll need a dial gauge/
verneer calipers to measure the maximum allowable stretch. 

Again assuming the 602 is like a 603, the head will come off with the header
and turbo attached. While the head is aluminum, it isn't exactly light with
the exhaust manifold and turbo attached. 

Above all, do NOT do this without the procedure for removing the cam. The
cam is hollow, and will snap if you remove the bolts holding the cam down
in the wrong order.

If Brian Toscano is still lurking around, he did this about a year and a 
half ago on a friend's 190Dt.

Good luck.

K



Re: [MBZ] Diesels are uncool?

2006-01-20 Thread OK Don
Yes - that's the same guy. And he's the one who drove a new Audi V8
Diesel 800 miles on one tank of fuel, getting right at 40 mpg, to
prove that the big powerful car is also efficient.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6784354703472305949q=audi+v8+diesel

On 1/19/06, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Isn't he the same clown who was bashing the 911 into stuff?

 Bob Rentfro

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  So THAT'S what I've been doing wrong! And all this time I thought I
  just had BO, or a bad haircut or something. No more diesels for me...
  also sounds like I'll need to be less of a tightwad too. (Darn.)
 
  http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=807885889802449309q=top+gear
 
  (it's a short video clip, about 90 seconds.)
 
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Re: [MBZ] ribs

2006-01-20 Thread LT Don
He didn't say that the ribs were NOT cat ribs, did he?

On 1/20/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Did you collect the grease from their fryers while you were there?

 On 1/19/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  m, barbeque ribs make for a damn good lunch!
 
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D w/stick and today the brake pedal pressure got really stiff

2006-01-20 Thread Loren Faeth

Yes

The easiest way to determine which is to unscrew the line going to the 
brake booster and start the engine and see if you have 
vacuum.  Alternately, you can separate the tube at the first junction and 
plug in a vacuum gauge.  If you have vacuum, than the booster or something 
else in the line is suspect.


At 05:51 PM 1/19/2006, you wrote:

I have a 1983 240 D w/stick and today the brake pedal  pressure got really
stiff. Is that the power brake booster gone bad or is  it a vacuum problem?

Steve
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Re: [MBZ] OT:email hosting

2006-01-20 Thread LT Don
Yea ... Apache running on Linux maybe?  It is a no-brainer (as demonstrated
by my putting up pages).

On 1/19/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm open to suggestions for an email hosting website.  I need 5-15
 individual email accounts and don't have to have more than 100MB inbox
 size.  I would like web and pop access.  Most other features are just added
 bonuses.  We use mostly Linux at home, so virus problems are slim to nil.
 I already have the domain registered.  Do any of you have some
 suggestions?  I have looked at these so far:
 http://www.everyone.net/personal-email-addresses.html
 http://www.entergroup.com/family/overview.fegml
 http://hostmysite.com/hosting/linux/

 Anyone have experience/suggestions for other sites to look at? TIA all,

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Re: [MBZ] R/E list disappearances

2006-01-20 Thread Bob Rentfro

Bob Jones U in one of the Carolinas

Bob R

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Umm, sorry I'm not familiar with these religious universities.
What is BJU?

Is that the religious/philisophical school?? (Brigham Jung University?)

Jeff Zedic
Unedumacated in Toronto

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[MBZ] 190DT Redux

2006-01-20 Thread frederick w moir

Kevin.
	Thanks for the info, I have all necessary tools. The hollow cam was a 
surprise, will be extra careful.

Fingers and toes crossed. ( to match my eyes!)
TTFN
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
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Re: [MBZ] OT:email hosting

2006-01-20 Thread Rich Thomas
My son's friend has a business doing IT and hosting, can make you a good 
deal -- he resells some big outfit's services, so it is not flybynight 
(though it does work at night).  I use a $96/yr hoster, good service, 
was recommended by a lister a year or two ago.  iPowerWeb is the name.  
My son's friend said he could beat their deal.


--R

Luther Gulseth wrote:

I'm open to suggestions for an email hosting website.  I need 5-15 individual email accounts and don't have to have more than 100MB inbox size.  I would like web and pop access.  Most other features are just added bonuses.  We use mostly Linux at home, so virus problems are slim to nil.  
I already have the domain registered.  Do any of you have some suggestions?  I have looked at these so far:

http://www.everyone.net/personal-email-addresses.html
http://www.entergroup.com/family/overview.fegml
http://hostmysite.com/hosting/linux/

Anyone have experience/suggestions for other sites to look at? TIA all,

Luther

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Re: [MBZ] #17 head and the death of a wayward #14

2006-01-20 Thread Kevin
On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 07:53:10AM -0800, Zeitgeist wrote:
 Finished pulling the #14 last night.  Big time fissure in #5 cyl,
 between the prechamber and exhaust valve--no residual soot buildup,
 unlike the other cyls and coolant beads on cyl walls.  I caught it
 just in time.  The head had major corrosion pitting near the front
 coolant jacket and signs of deck hammering between #2 and #3 cyls as
 well.  This head is beyond junk.

For what it's worth, prechamber to exhaust valve cracks usually aren't as
big of a deal. The cracks between the valves, otoh, are.

My puddle was in #4 and #6. The corrosion pitting and deck hammering make your
head worse sounding than mine.

I'm probably going to spring for a new #22 when I do the wagon.

K



Re: [MBZ] Sprinter Registration...

2006-01-20 Thread Loren Faeth

I like McCann's McVann better

At 07:33 PM 1/19/2006, you wrote:

If you have any more daughters, you will require a Sprinter just to take
them to mass!

You can paint a name on the front: Chris's Short Bus.

On 1/20/06, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i plan to buy one in the future - 3-4 years.






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Re: [MBZ] Transportation

2006-01-20 Thread RELNGSON
1992 Olds 98 Regency 121K FOR SALE CHEAP

One thing to be said for cars like this one is that no matter what happens to 
it, it doesn't matter one damned bit. Absolutely no social status due to it's 
invisibilty. And if it gets smacked, fix the damage and life goes on. No 
worrying about o, are they going to use genuine GM paint? Is it worth less 
now?


Re: [MBZ] OT: Cat Stories

2006-01-20 Thread OK Don
They are anti-freeze -- notice where they live?

On 1/19/06, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Do mooses like antifreeze?


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Re: [MBZ] Sprinter Registration...

2006-01-20 Thread LT Don
You STILL at work?  I think I can safely say that you're not away from home
doing God's work at the moment.  (?)

Go home, my son. We have had this conversation before.

By the way, bring your TD on up to me, ok?

On 1/20/06, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 EXACTLY why I will need a Sprinter. We can pack em  in the TD pretty good
 for now, with room leftover...helps that church  is only 6 blocks away...but
 for trips and stuff, gonna eventually need  something bigger and I will
 NEVER get a 16 passenger van - EVER. Way  too uncool.

   Chris

 LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  If you have any more daughters, you
 will require a Sprinter just to take
 them to mass!

 You can paint a name on the front: Chris's Short Bus.

 On 1/20/06, Christopher McCann  wrote:
 
  i plan to buy one in the future - 3-4 years.
 
 
 



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Re: [MBZ] tinting question

2006-01-20 Thread Kevin
On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 08:14:16PM -0500, BillR wrote:
  Some personal experience - Moderate tint on the wife's car made it near
 impossible to back up at night.  A decent tint job is very helpful down here
 in the sun belt, but can be a danger also.

The black truck (87 or 88 K30 crew cab dually) has a set of extra backup
lights mounted under the bumper that are wired to come on when in reverse.

The truck doesn't have much of a tint, but the dinky chevy reverse lights
were nowhere near adequate for a truck that big and tall.

K



Re: [MBZ] ribs

2006-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
no, leftover meatloaf sandwich does.  I had bbq today for lunch though, 
right after I went to a funeral.


Luther Gulseth wrote:


m, barbeque ribs make for a damn good lunch!
 
Luther

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Re: [MBZ] Coupes and Wood Type

2006-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
wierd.  Seems like all the ones I have seen and in sales lit all had 
burl wood.


andrew strasfogel wrote:


I misspoke about the pre-turbo 300CDs all having burlwood dash veneer.  I
saw one this AM parked on a D.C. downtown street.  It was a white 300CD
nontuebo with type II ACC (vertical button array) and plain zebrano wood.
Je mange le corbeau.


On 1/19/06, Bill Aston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


FWIW I had a 1979 280C--gasoline--that had Burl wood trim. Very
attractive.
My 1983-380SEC likewise has the burl wood trim.
Cap'n Bill
Fort Lauderdale
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Re: [MBZ] R/E list disappearances

2006-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
The funny thing about that list is that all the sudden everyone starts 
piping up about how worthless so and so is for saying such and such, 
like their crap dont stink or something.  No offence to those that are 
still there but yes, that list is very uptight.


Jeff Zedic wrote:

I got booted from R/E for using the word damn and perhaps the word 
piss...mnot sure but it was pretty innocuous language.


Boy-howdy they were uptight..always felt like I was in church...

Jeff Zedic
Toronto

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Re: [MBZ] Premium Gas or Not?

2006-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

the 560 will run fine on 87, but yes, I think the 6's need something higher.

Kevin wrote:

On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 01:31:37PM -0600, Donald Snook wrote:


I have not had a gas Mercedes since 1998 and it was a 1971 (that
originally ran on regular i.e. leaded gas), so I am not clear on the
premium gas requirement on newer gasser MB's.   Do I really need to run
premium in my 1990 300SEL?   I am pretty sure the simple answer will be
yes. Just wondering if anyone had thoughts on this issue. 



I've heard Kaleb mention that his 560 was satisfied with less than 
premium, but am not so sure about the sixes. I'd probably try it with a partial

tank - if it's unhappy with it, it'll let you know.

K

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Re: [MBZ] R/E list disappearances

2006-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
For the okieq before last, I invited a couple of locals that are on the 
RE list to come, one showed up that I remember.  I thought I would be 
able to sign them up over here but it didnt work.  Decided the next year 
not to mess with it, just stick to it being a deal for our list only. 
If they want to come, they need to sign up for the list.  And the sad 
part is there are several local OK folks over on the RE list.


Bob Rentfro wrote:

Having a '77 (gasp!), I always felt like a subhuman/sublister on that list. 
It was the computer equivelent feeling like you get when you walk into a 
Mercedes showroom in short, flipflops, a Morrissey tee shirt and a bucket 
hat and get leered at by the salesdudes. (Don't worry, I'm just heading to 
parts, man)


Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 148K
'01 VW Beetle TDI 61K
Litchfield Park, AZ

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Well, you know how it goes.

You can say I pricked my finger, but you can't say I fingered my 
..


Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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I got booted from R/E for using the word damn and perhaps the word
piss...mnot sure but it was pretty innocuous language.

Boy-howdy they were uptight..always felt like I was in church...

Jeff Zedic
Toronto

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Re: [MBZ] R/E list disappearances

2006-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

I have a 81 manny 240

Tom Hargrave wrote:


Bob,

I owned a 77 300D and looked for a nice 77 240D with a manual transmission
for years. Great car!

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Having a '77 (gasp!), I always felt like a subhuman/sublister on that list.
It was the computer equivelent feeling like you get when you walk into a
Mercedes showroom in short, flipflops, a Morrissey tee shirt and a bucket
hat and get leered at by the salesdudes. (Don't worry, I'm just heading to
parts, man)

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 148K
'01 VW Beetle TDI 61K
Litchfield Park, AZ

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Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 2:12 PM
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Well, you know how it goes.

You can say I pricked my finger, but you can't say I fingered my
..

Thanks,
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256-656-1924
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I got booted from R/E for using the word damn and perhaps the word
piss...mnot sure but it was pretty innocuous language.

Boy-howdy they were uptight..always felt like I was in church...

Jeff Zedic
Toronto

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Re: [MBZ] 190DT Head Gasket

2006-01-20 Thread OK Don
I'd take it to a machine shop and get the head checked, valve guides
checked and replaced if worn, new valve seals, etc. while you have it
off.

On 1/19/06, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 07:59:58PM -0500, frederick w moir wrote:
  Hi, All.
I'm planning on doing the head gasket (to music wearing funny blue
  clothes) on my '87 190DT this weekend and I've a few question to ask about
  what i may find:-
  1.  Turbo oil supply, is it just remove and replace? 'o' rings? No suitable
  o-rings in gasket set or midget gaskets either.
  2.  Assuming that the head has not been grossly overheated, may the head be
  just cleaned, checked for cracks and flatness and re-installed?
  3.  Anyone with pearls of wisdom please respond. (I know I'm asking for it.)

 Assuming a 602 is like a 603, whatever seal was on the turbo oil supply I
 was able to reuse. The head on a 602 is more durable, so the likelihood of
 fatal cracks is pretty low. There might be some cracks, but the head will
 probably still pass a pressure test. Examine the head gasket upon removal,
 and see if it was a gasket failure that caused the problem.

 Also assuming a 602 is like a 603, you'll need a pin puller to pull the
 pins that hold the timing chain rail to the head. I made one with a M6-1.0
 bolt about two inches long, a handful of flat washers (four to six, I think),
 a 3/4 long nipple (from the plumbing section), and a nut that threaded onto
 the bolt. This was obviously cheaper than buying the correct tool.

 Speaking of tools, you're going to need an XZN (triple square) driver to get
 the head bolts off. If you reuse the head bolts, you'll need a dial gauge/
 verneer calipers to measure the maximum allowable stretch.

 Again assuming the 602 is like a 603, the head will come off with the header
 and turbo attached. While the head is aluminum, it isn't exactly light with
 the exhaust manifold and turbo attached.

 Above all, do NOT do this without the procedure for removing the cam. The
 cam is hollow, and will snap if you remove the bolts holding the cam down
 in the wrong order.

 If Brian Toscano is still lurking around, he did this about a year and a
 half ago on a friend's 190Dt.

 Good luck.

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Re: [MBZ] Sprinter Registration...

2006-01-20 Thread Tom Hargrave
Actually, there's nothing on a Dodge sprinter that's not Freightliner but
the do-dads.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Christopher McCann
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 4:44 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sprinter Registration...


except there is a difference - there's NOTHING on a Dodge sprinter that is
not MB EXCEPT the do-dads

  Chris

Kevin J. Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  My bet would be it would be
registered as it was sold originally, Dodge,
Freightliner or Mercedes; but Mercedes isn't selling them in the US,
right?

The do-dads are just that, external emblems. You don't think all those
boy-racers that put a big R in their Civic's back window get to register
them as Acura's, do you?  ;-)

...Kevin

Christopher McCann said:
 So does a Sprinter get registered as a Dodge,  Freightliner or Merc? What
 if all the Dodge do-dads are gone and  replaced with stars? (kit's about
 $250, grille, badges, wheel caps,  steering wheel emblem, everything)




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Re: [MBZ] Premium Gas or Not?

2006-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
sorry to pipe in here, but 2k seems way too high to me for one of those. 
 IT should have already had new tires for that kind of money unless its 
just showroom nice


Donald Snook wrote:

Rick Knoble wrote: 


1992 Olds 98 Regency 121K FOR SALE CHEAP

How much for the geezer-mobile? 

 


$2000.  The dealership selling it wanted $3995 (which I admit is
insane). I bought it for $2K.  I also put brand new tires on it (less
than 3K miles on them now) replaced front brakes (pads AND new rotors),
changed tranny fluid, and replaced the outside temperature sensor. It is
good car. It is NOT sexy to look at (if you are under 70). VERY nice
interior.  I can email pics later if anyone is really interested. 

 

Selling it for $2k means I am losing money, but no sense in keeping it. 

 


Donald H. Snook

McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn  Herrington, P.A. 


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Re: [MBZ] mistakes ... now OR gas rant

2006-01-20 Thread redghost
My understanding from having ridden in OR and having a bunch of us 
descend upon a station, as well as having a pal as DM for BP.  The pump 
monkey is able to service a number of cars simultaneously while he can 
only do one bike at a time.  More anal bike riders get peeved when the 
monkey scratched the paint of his pretty bike, and spilled fuel really 
got them going.  If there are six pumps, the bikes will take all the 
hoses and be gone in five gallons.  More time is spend processing 
payment.  With six cars, the pumps are doing 10-20 gallons and there is 
time to deal with each individual client.


Also found that with a diesel, the monkey will ignore you and allow you 
to pump, since he is not interested in smelling like fuel, and more 
able to service the petro cars


On Thursday, January 19, 2006, at 12:21 PM, Levi Smith wrote:

Personally I think self-serve bikes in a full-serve station makes no 
sense.

Basically because:
-I can't possibly fathom having someone else pour gas into your lap 
making

any sense.
AND
-I can't possibly fathom how the government could be smart enough to
agree...  (:

And, you do kind of hold the handle at an angle (I'm sure it depends 
on the
bike), in my case, with the nozzle all the way in the shutoff shuts it 
off
long before I reach the top.  So then you have to kind of pull it out 
some
to get more in, but at the same time trying not to spill it all over 
your

bike and/or yourself...  (:

Levi

On 1/19/06, Tim C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Huh - never had a bike, so don't know.  I was just making a guess as 
to

why
motorcyclists might get to do their own.  Thought maybe the nozzle 
didn't

fit in right for the cutoff to work (however it works) - I've observed
some
motorcyclists holding the nozzle at odd angles etc  I also seem to
remember something about the law being amended on safety grounds with
motorcycles for some reason - but I'm really grasping at straws of 
vague

memories now.

So, yeah, who knows - laws and reasons for them are often simply
maddening.

T


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Hmm, cutoff always works for me on my bike

Levi (:


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Re: [MBZ] Diesels are uncool?

2006-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

yea, I think, so there you go

Bob Rentfro wrote:


Isn't he the same clown who was bashing the 911 into stuff?

Bob Rentfro

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So THAT'S what I've been doing wrong! And all this time I thought I
just had BO, or a bad haircut or something. No more diesels for me...
also sounds like I'll need to be less of a tightwad too. (Darn.)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=807885889802449309q=top+gear

(it's a short video clip, about 90 seconds.)

=)

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Re: [MBZ] Premium Gas or Not?

2006-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

my 560 gets the same mileage and has the same amount of power with 87

John Berryman wrote:

On Jan 19, 2006, at 4:02 PM, Tom Hargrave wrote:


I wonder if the 420SEL or 560SEL will run on less than premium and  
if so,
what is the minimum octane rating that these engines will run? I  
run a lot

of miles  /year and I've started to see some deals with both cars.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave



	You could probably screw around with ignition timing and get away  
with 87 octane. You'll lose a little power but that's the way the  
cookie crumbles.


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Re: [MBZ] Diesels are uncool?

2006-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

learn something new everyday.

Tim C wrote:


Heh, I'm new to the diesel fold and so far am finding it very cool.  I find
it especially interesting that I was warned how slow the car would be, even
with turbo, etc - ok, it's not that fast (and neither is my 944, so I'm not
really used to blinding acceleration) - but it's certainly better at moving
than I thought.  In other words, anyone that says diesel is not cool just
doesn't know how good reasonable amounts of torque feel.  I've already
surprised a few people with El Barge.  It also amuses me that, due to the
aforementioned 2-3 shift flare, I've been taking it easier - waiting till
3rd to really get rolling - with just a little patience, it gets to the
torque band and isn't really all that slower than if you thrash it in 2nd.
Yeah, diesel IS cool!

Also - it is not correct (or, actually, is nothing special) to say the guy
urinated in the back of the car.  Urination is the process by which the
kidneys secrete urine to the bladder, and this is a constant process.
Micturation is the actual operation of voiding the bladder.  The regular
dictionary doesn't quite get this right...anyone that tells you otherwise is
simply stercoraceous.

T


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Re: [MBZ] R/E list disappearances

2006-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I have several alias accounts signed up, but nothing really interesting. 
 I just monitor it sometimes to see if anything interesting turns up 
for sale or what not.


Zeitgeist wrote:

I tried to sign up twice--no reply.  I assume my reputation preceded me.

On 1/19/06, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I applied in 2002 and got absolutely no response. I don't know if
that means I set a record for the speediest boot or was never booted.





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Re: [MBZ] R/E list disappearances

2006-01-20 Thread redghost
I love hitting the dealer in Gump and looking really scruffy.  Pick up 
my part, and then hang out REALLY close to the showroom cars.  Get 
really close so that maybe the buttons on the 501s will scratch the 
finish.  Gets them on their toes and offering you coffee to walk away 
from the expensive cars.  Take a small child in with you and the 
protective shields really go up.


On Thursday, January 19, 2006, at 01:21 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote:

Having a '77 (gasp!), I always felt like a subhuman/sublister on that 
list.
It was the computer equivelent feeling like you get when you walk into 
a
Mercedes showroom in short, flipflops, a Morrissey tee shirt and a 
bucket
hat and get leered at by the salesdudes. (Don't worry, I'm just 
heading to

parts, man)

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 148K
'01 VW Beetle TDI 61K
Litchfield Park, AZ

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Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 2:12 PM
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Well, you know how it goes.

You can say I pricked my finger, but you can't say I fingered my
..

Thanks,
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I got booted from R/E for using the word damn and perhaps the word
piss...mnot sure but it was pretty innocuous language.

Boy-howdy they were uptight..always felt like I was in church...

Jeff Zedic
Toronto

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Re: [MBZ] BJU?

2006-01-20 Thread RELNGSON
I see their Baylor and raise them four years at www.bju.edu!

Does bju mean what I think it does? I have been wondering for some time now.

RLE


Re: [MBZ] R/E list disappearances

2006-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
and by the way, I think its insane to have to be approved to sign up for 
a list and be moderated at first.  Its stunts the growth of the list and 
puts everyone in a state of fear.  IF somebody signs up for this list 
and gets out of line they will be warned or booted, but never had to 
yet.  No reason to do it overthere either.  They act like their list is 
just some sort of holy grail or something.  The power play between stu 
and easley was a nice touch.


Zeitgeist wrote:


I tried to sign up twice--no reply.  I assume my reputation preceded me.

On 1/19/06, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I applied in 2002 and got absolutely no response. I don't know if
that means I set a record for the speediest boot or was never booted.



Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state
'87 300TD intercooler (211k)
'84 300D (207k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)

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Re: [MBZ] OT:email hosting

2006-01-20 Thread Loren Faeth
If you want to roll your own, Mandrake makes a nice dedicated email server, 
but you would have to have a real IP address from your ISP for it, and 
that would likely cost more than Nocster or some other virtual linux hosting.


At 07:52 PM 1/19/2006, you wrote:

Yea ... Apache running on Linux maybe?  It is a no-brainer (as demonstrated
by my putting up pages).





Re: [MBZ] R/E list disappearances

2006-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Yea, and its the reason MBZ.org started, which in turn is the reason for 
this list.  You see, Sexton, Hursty, myself, then a few other people 
were banned and sexton started mbz.org.  Banned was the first list 
followed closly thereafter by the rest.  That was back in 98 or 99.


Jeff Zedic wrote:


It's the Ritter/Easley list.

Started by Stu Ritter  Richard Easley and based at some University id 
TX, I think.


Jeff Zedic
Toronto

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Re: [MBZ] R/E list disappearances

2006-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
could be, the list ownner likes to make sure he knows everything and is 
always right, or so I hear.  In fact, I think that is why chip lamb got 
canned, soething some a certain list owner saying it was ok to nurse a 
bad master cylinder or soemthing and chip disagreed.  Rule number 1, 
dont disagree with the list owner.


Mitch Haley wrote:


Zeitgeist wrote:


I tried to sign up twice--no reply.  I assume my reputation preceded me.



I sometimes wondered if claiming mechanical competence on the application
got me reqected.

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Re: [MBZ] R/E list disappearances

2006-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

yea, thats funny

Hendrik Riessen wrote:

Correction, was the Ritter/Easley list.
Is now the Ritter/van Cleef list.
Also I was not booted but left voluntarily (in protest) just in case anyone 
cares.


Hendrik

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Re: [MBZ] R/E list disappearances

2006-01-20 Thread Bob Rentfro

Do tell...

AZBob

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I have a 81 manny 240

Tom Hargrave wrote:


Bob,

I owned a 77 300D and looked for a nice 77 240D with a manual 
transmission

for years. Great car!

Thanks,
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Having a '77 (gasp!), I always felt like a subhuman/sublister on that 
list.

It was the computer equivelent feeling like you get when you walk into a
Mercedes showroom in short, flipflops, a Morrissey tee shirt and a bucket
hat and get leered at by the salesdudes. (Don't worry, I'm just heading 
to

parts, man)

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 148K
'01 VW Beetle TDI 61K
Litchfield Park, AZ

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Well, you know how it goes.

You can say I pricked my finger, but you can't say I fingered my
..

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
256-656-1924
www.kegkits.com



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I got booted from R/E for using the word damn and perhaps the word
piss...mnot sure but it was pretty innocuous language.

Boy-howdy they were uptight..always felt like I was in church...

Jeff Zedic
Toronto

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Re: [MBZ] R/E list disappearances

2006-01-20 Thread OK Don
Sheesh - now you tell us!

On 1/19/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Rule number 1, dont disagree with the list owner.


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Re: [MBZ] R/E list doings

2006-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
HAHAHAHAHA, yea, oral is a local tulsan, I remember back when he said he 
needed 1mil or something like that or god was going to take him home


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Boy-howdy they were uptight..always felt like I was in church...

I remember the time Easley got all swole up and red when someone made a crack 
about Oral Roberts.


A fine gentleman.

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Re: [MBZ] R/E list disappearances

2006-01-20 Thread LT Don
Bill:

I have but one word to explain why I stayed at BJU four years:  V I E T N A
M .

The humor of this is that I am US Coast Guard (retired)!

D.

On 1/20/06, BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Don - I have never met anyone who could make 4 years of BJU.  My hat is
 off
 to you.  I went to a 'church affiliated' school also - Lynchburg College
 in
 VA - but most of the students didn't seem to know what church it was
 related
 to.  I think it just made some parents feel their kids were safer somehow.
 It was just down the road from Thomas Road Baptist - I used to drive the
 other way just to be safe.
 BillR
 Jacksonville FL
 1981 300SD

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 I see their Baylor and raise them four years at www.bju.edu!

 On 1/20/06, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Baylor, extremely babtist.
 
  On 1/19/06, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   It's the Ritter/Easley list.
  
   Started by Stu Ritter  Richard Easley and based at some University
   id TX, I think.
  
   Jeff Zedic
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Re: [MBZ] R/E list disappearances

2006-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

81 240D, stick, runs, drives, needs a throwout bearing

Bob Rentfro wrote:


Do tell...

AZBob

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I have a 81 manny 240

Tom Hargrave wrote:



Bob,

I owned a 77 300D and looked for a nice 77 240D with a manual 
transmission

for years. Great car!

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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-Original Message-
From: Bob Rentfro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 3:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List
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Having a '77 (gasp!), I always felt like a subhuman/sublister on that 
list.

It was the computer equivelent feeling like you get when you walk into a
Mercedes showroom in short, flipflops, a Morrissey tee shirt and a bucket
hat and get leered at by the salesdudes. (Don't worry, I'm just heading 
to

parts, man)

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 148K
'01 VW Beetle TDI 61K
Litchfield Park, AZ

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Well, you know how it goes.

You can say I pricked my finger, but you can't say I fingered my
..

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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I got booted from R/E for using the word damn and perhaps the word
piss...mnot sure but it was pretty innocuous language.

Boy-howdy they were uptight..always felt like I was in church...

Jeff Zedic
Toronto

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Re: [MBZ] R/E list disappearances

2006-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

oh you can disagree with me, but not on the other list

OK Don wrote:


Sheesh - now you tell us!

On 1/19/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Rule number 1, dont disagree with the list owner.


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Re: [MBZ] Diesels are uncool?

2006-01-20 Thread Rick R.
Did you wee wee in the back seat of your diesel? I think that might
be your problem.


 Original Message 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Diesels are uncool?
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:38:36 -0700

So THAT'S what I've been doing wrong! And all this time I thought I
just had BO, or a bad haircut or something. No more diesels for
me...
also sounds like I'll need to be less of a tightwad too. (Darn.)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=807885889802449309q=top+gea
r

(it's a short video clip, about 90 seconds.)

=)

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1987 300D - 261kmi (Sportline)


Thanks, 

Rick Russell




[MBZ] 450SLC engine rebuild pictures

2006-01-20 Thread OK Don
Those with a LONG memory might recall that I'm rebuilding an engine
for my SLC. It's been in progress for over 1 1/2 years now. I finally
got around to taking a few pictures, now that it's getting close to
finished (hate to pick up a camera with greasy hands).

They'er at a rudimentary web page if you're interested --  --

http://pages.sbcglobal.net/danorris/450slc.htm


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'90 300D 243K, Rattled
'87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car
'81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car
'78 450SLC 67K, brown car
'97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go



Re: [MBZ] OT:email hosting

2006-01-20 Thread LT Don
Naw, do as I do. Set up a Linux server and use a domain name from dyndns.org.
Works fine.

Such as:  http://don.homelinux.net/debdon/

On 1/20/06, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you want to roll your own, Mandrake makes a nice dedicated email
 server,
 but you would have to have a real IP address from your ISP for it, and
 that would likely cost more than Nocster or some other virtual linux
 hosting.

 At 07:52 PM 1/19/2006, you wrote:
 Yea ... Apache running on Linux maybe?  It is a no-brainer (as
 demonstrated
 by my putting up pages).


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Re: [MBZ] R/E list disappearances

2006-01-20 Thread Rick Knoble
IF somebody signs up for this list 
and gets out of line they will be warned or booted, but never had to 
yet.  

What about that Gabe fellow from The Republik of Kalifornia?
Rick Knoble 
'85 300 CD




Re: [MBZ] R/E list disappearances

2006-01-20 Thread Royce Engler

Bob said...

It was the computer equivelent feeling like you get when you walk into a
Mercedes showroom in short, flipflops, a Morrissey tee shirt and a bucket
hat and get leered at by the salesdudes. (Don't worry, I'm just heading to
parts, man)


LOL...been there, done that.  At Star Motorcars in Houston, you used to have
to walk through the showroom to get to the parts desk.  When they built the
new showroom, they put the parts desk entrance outside so us peons could get
in without anyone seeing us.  Mercedes Houston North even built a separate
building, although the parts desk is right next to the service waiting room.
Always feel a little self conscious when I go in wearing my shorts, sandals,
and tee shirt to get a filter or something, but I still go over and get a
free Diet Coke out of the fridge GRIN.  It's payback for the $300 they
charged me to install the sunroof gasket on my 300TD.  One thing I haven't
done yet is go down to Mercedes of Sugar Land on a Saturday to get the free
car wash (free for life, even if you didn't buy it there...)  One of these
days I'll do that just on principle.

Royce Engler
1985 300TD Turbo 265K







Re: [MBZ] R/E list disappearances

2006-01-20 Thread Loren Faeth
That makes 2 of us.  I didn't get booted, just left in disgust.  I had been 
forewarned by Kathy Kennel anyhow.


At 08:29 PM 1/19/2006, you wrote:

yea, thats funny

Hendrik Riessen wrote:
 Correction, was the Ritter/Easley list.
 Is now the Ritter/van Cleef list.
 Also I was not booted but left voluntarily (in protest) just in case 
anyone

 cares.

 Hendrik






Re: [MBZ] R/E list disappearances

2006-01-20 Thread Bob Rentfro

Ahh yes, Gabe. That feller wasn't hooked up right.
Did Chuck de-frapper mapper-ize him?

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 148K
'01 VW TDI 61K
Litchfield Park, AZ


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Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] R/E list disappearances


IF somebody signs up for this list 
and gets out of line they will be warned or booted, but never had to 
yet.  

What about that Gabe fellow from The Republik of Kalifornia?
Rick Knoble 
'85 300 CD


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Re: [MBZ] R/E list disappearances

2006-01-20 Thread LT Don
Last time we (wife and I) walked into a Benz dealership (Des Moines, to buy
a couple of $1 parts) they INSISTED that I sit in a 600-series SL. Sales
lady asked what I thought, and I was honest, telling her that my white ass
felt really good sitting there in a $140K car. Then I told her that my
salary was sub-$30K a year.  (Didn't mention the military retirement pay.)
Should have seen her face fall! 67  --- that was the cat's input,
hopping up to look out the window.

On 1/20/06, Royce Engler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Bob said...

 It was the computer equivelent feeling like you get when you walk into a
 Mercedes showroom in short, flipflops, a Morrissey tee shirt and a bucket
 hat and get leered at by the salesdudes. (Don't worry, I'm just heading
 to
 parts, man)


 LOL...been there, done that.  At Star Motorcars in Houston, you used to
 have
 to walk through the showroom to get to the parts desk.  When they built
 the
 new showroom, they put the parts desk entrance outside so us peons could
 get
 in without anyone seeing us.  Mercedes Houston North even built a separate
 building, although the parts desk is right next to the service waiting
 room.
 Always feel a little self conscious when I go in wearing my shorts,
 sandals,
 and tee shirt to get a filter or something, but I still go over and get a
 free Diet Coke out of the fridge GRIN.  It's payback for the $300 they
 charged me to install the sunroof gasket on my 300TD.  One thing I haven't
 done yet is go down to Mercedes of Sugar Land on a Saturday to get the
 free
 car wash (free for life, even if you didn't buy it there...)  One of these
 days I'll do that just on principle.

 Royce Engler
 1985 300TD Turbo 265K





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Re: [MBZ] R/E list disappearances

2006-01-20 Thread Bob Rentfro

I seeis it me drive it to the nuke plant material?

Bob


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81 240D, stick, runs, drives, needs a throwout bearing

Bob Rentfro wrote:


Do tell...

AZBob

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I have a 81 manny 240

Tom Hargrave wrote:



Bob,

I owned a 77 300D and looked for a nice 77 240D with a manual
transmission
for years. Great car!

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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-Original Message-
From: Bob Rentfro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 3:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] R/E list disappearances


Having a '77 (gasp!), I always felt like a subhuman/sublister on that
list.
It was the computer equivelent feeling like you get when you walk into a
Mercedes showroom in short, flipflops, a Morrissey tee shirt and a 
bucket

hat and get leered at by the salesdudes. (Don't worry, I'm just heading
to
parts, man)

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 148K
'01 VW Beetle TDI 61K
Litchfield Park, AZ

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Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] R/E list disappearances





Well, you know how it goes.

You can say I pricked my finger, but you can't say I fingered my
..

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
256-656-1924
www.kegkits.com



-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeff Zedic
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 2:37 PM
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I got booted from R/E for using the word damn and perhaps the word
piss...mnot sure but it was pretty innocuous language.

Boy-howdy they were uptight..always felt like I was in church...

Jeff Zedic
Toronto

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[MBZ] OT - Genset - MD-3

2006-01-20 Thread wilton strickland
In '58, on flightline at Lincoln AFB, NE, a flt crew was starting engines
(gas turbine, of course) on a B-47.  The engine starters were electric.
Normally, when starter switch was engaged, the sudden call for more amperage
by the starter would cause the aux. ground power unit (MD-3, driven by
reciprocating, gasoline engine in this case) to rock a bit as it suddenly
surged and groaned to produce the required power.  As this crew engaged
starter for one of the engines, the MD-3 did a couple of flips/rolls.  The
jet engine had seized, causing the starter to suddenly overload the MD-3.

Wilton




Re: [MBZ] [Mercedes] MBCA Route 66

2006-01-20 Thread George Hayos


  When are you doing route 66?

  George H.
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From:  Howard Fulford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:  ListStriplin [EMAIL PROTECTED],ListRitter/Easley
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Subject:  [Mercedes] MBCA Route 66
Date:  Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:19:27 -
Anyone need a navigator for the MBCA Route 66 drive ?


Howard Fulford
Bath
England

190E '89, 137658 miles
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[MBZ] 81 240D

2006-01-20 Thread Loren Faeth

Is the 240D for sale whole?  If so: 4 spd manual?  Kay Mucho dinero?




Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D w/stick and today the brake pedal pressure got really stiff

2006-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

probably a vacuum leak.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have a 1983 240 D w/stick and today the brake pedal  pressure got really 
stiff. Is that the power brake booster gone bad or is  it a vacuum problem?
 
Steve

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Re: [MBZ] R/E list disappearances

2006-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
well, he so far is the only one who got kicked off.  Had one dude who 
got moderated then got pissed off and left on his own but thats it.


Rick Knoble wrote:

IF somebody signs up for this list 
and gets out of line they will be warned or booted, but never had to 
yet.  


What about that Gabe fellow from The Republik of Kalifornia?
Rick Knoble 
'85 300 CD


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Re: [MBZ] 81 240D

2006-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

I havent even thought about it, I suppose it could be for sale.

Loren Faeth wrote:


Is the 240D for sale whole?  If so: 4 spd manual?  Kay Mucho dinero?


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Re: [MBZ] tinting question

2006-01-20 Thread Mitch Haley
Kevin wrote:
 
 The black truck (87 or 88 K30 crew cab dually) has a set of extra backup
 lights mounted under the bumper that are wired to come on when in reverse.

When the worthless little reverse lamps under the bumper of my '75 Civic
finally rusted and fell off, I thought about getting a pair of 55w clear
fog lamps to replace them. Now that fog lights are about $15 a set, it's
actually quite feasible if you want underbumber back-ups. I saw some 
little self-contained prefocused 55w 12v halogen lamps at Menard's last
week for about a buck apiece, I think they were replacement bulbs for
low voltage track lights, size MR16. They'd make strong back-up lamps
if you could get housings to mount them in.



Re: [MBZ] 450SLC engine rebuild pictures

2006-01-20 Thread Loren Faeth

THat is shore purdy!

It'd make a nice mate to #1 Daughter's 380SL in the same color!  (hint hint)

At 08:39 PM 1/19/2006, you wrote:

Those with a LONG memory might recall that I'm rebuilding an engine
for my SLC. It's been in progress for over 1 1/2 years now. I finally
got around to taking a few pictures, now that it's getting close to
finished (hate to pick up a camera with greasy hands).

They'er at a rudimentary web page if you're interested --  --

http://pages.sbcglobal.net/danorris/450slc.htm


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'87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car
'81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car
'78 450SLC 67K, brown car
'97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go

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Re: [MBZ] 81 240D

2006-01-20 Thread Bob Rentfro

Get in line, young-un..

AZ Bob...your elder

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Subject: [MBZ] 81 240D



Is the 240D for sale whole?  If so: 4 spd manual?  Kay Mucho dinero?


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Re: [MBZ] R/E list disappearances

2006-01-20 Thread redghost

IIRC, there was a dude

uh

Gabriel... yeah, he sort of self booted after some warning


On Thursday, January 19, 2006, at 06:20 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

and by the way, I think its insane to have to be approved to sign up 
for
a list and be moderated at first.  Its stunts the growth of the list 
and

puts everyone in a state of fear.  IF somebody signs up for this list
and gets out of line they will be warned or booted, but never had to
yet.  No reason to do it overthere either.  They act like their list is
just some sort of holy grail or something.  The power play between stu
and easley was a nice touch.

Zeitgeist wrote:

I tried to sign up twice--no reply.  I assume my reputation preceded 
me.


On 1/19/06, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I applied in 2002 and got absolutely no response. I don't know if
that means I set a record for the speediest boot or was never booted.



Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state
'87 300TD intercooler (211k)
'84 300D (207k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cat Stories

2006-01-20 Thread Tim C
Mind you, moose bites can be pretty nasty

T

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 Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 5:39 PM
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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cat Stories
 
 
 Do mooses like antifreeze?
 
 On 1/19/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  OK guys - enough with the cats already.
  This is the MERCEDES list, not the CATerpillar list   
 when WE get 
  off topic, and onto animals, WE talk about MOOSE! Get back 
 on board! 
  Tomorrow is Moose Friday -



Re: [MBZ] R/E list disappearances

2006-01-20 Thread BillR
I hear that.  As a graduating senior I was set for a physical and induction
into the USAF [avoiding ground duty in Nam] when a gal tried to force-feed a
Camero to me.  Sudden 4F about 5 different ways, but still not as hazardous
as Nam.  One son in USAF [diesel mechanic] and a Son-in-law is USCG in San
Diego with a welding shop on a Navy base.  Glad you made it out of both.
BillR
Jacksonville FL 
1981 300SD 270K 

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Bill:

I have but one word to explain why I stayed at BJU four years:  V I E T N A
M .

The humor of this is that I am US Coast Guard (retired)!

D.

On 1/20/06, BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Don - I have never met anyone who could make 4 years of BJU.  My hat 
 is off to you.  I went to a 'church affiliated' school also - 
 Lynchburg College in VA - but most of the students didn't seem to know 
 what church it was related to.  I think it just made some parents feel 
 their kids were safer somehow.
 It was just down the road from Thomas Road Baptist - I used to drive 
 the other way just to be safe.
 BillR
 Jacksonville FL
 1981 300SD

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 I see their Baylor and raise them four years at www.bju.edu!

 On 1/20/06, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Baylor, extremely babtist.
 
  On 1/19/06, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   It's the Ritter/Easley list.
  
   Started by Stu Ritter  Richard Easley and based at some 
   University id TX, I think.
  
   Jeff Zedic
   Toronto
  
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Re: [MBZ] 190DT Head Gasket

2006-01-20 Thread Dave M.
Hi Fred,

In addition to the excellent post by Kevin, I'd definitely change the
valve guide seals while you have easy access. Ask Rusty for the
Genuine Mercedes seal kit. Wouldn't hurt to have a machine shop
check it for flatness, etc... cracks should be visible to the naked
eye if there are any (probably won't be on a 602).

This is also a good time to change any noisy lifters... when you
squeeze the button on the underside of the lifters, it should be
quite firm, even solid. If it squishes in easily, it's probably a bad
lifter. I had 5 of 12 old ones fail this very rudimentary test. All
the new ones were rock solid, and quiet. About $25 each from Rusty.

Check chain stretch while it's apart, replace chain if stretched 4
degrees or more. Replace the upper chain guide rail (it's really
cheap), and you may need two new rail pins, if the old ones don't look
healthy upon removal, or were damaged when removing.

The OE/dealer XZN head bolt tool is quite reasonable, btw - under
$20 last time I checked. If you want/need to pull the prechambers for
any reason, I'm selling the tools for that and will be happy to make
you a deal!

:-)

+dm

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 Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:59:58 -0500
 From: frederick w moir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [MBZ] 190DT Head Gasket


 Hi, All.
I'm planning on doing the head gasket (to music wearing funny blue
 clothes) on my '87 190DT this weekend and I've a few question to ask about
 what i may find:-
 1.  Turbo oil supply, is it just remove and replace? 'o' rings? No suitable
 o-rings in gasket set or midget gaskets either.
 2.  Assuming that the head has not been grossly overheated, may the head be
 just cleaned, checked for cracks and flatness and re-installed?
 3.  Anyone with pearls of wisdom please respond. (I know I'm asking for it.)

 TIA

 Fred Moir
 Lynn MA
 84 190D Ugly engine
 85 300TD Nice
 87 190DT Oil in the Water
 85 190E Organ Donor



Re: [MBZ] Prechamber tools for sale

2006-01-20 Thread Dave M.
H probably stuff not many people on this list are interested
in! I've got:

...a 334mm Brembo brake upgrade for 124/129/201 chassis ($500),
Sportline steering wheel  airbag (very rare stuff - $500/pair), the
aforementioned prechamber tools, set of NEW Robinair manifold hoses
for R-134a, Thermo-Tec turbo blanket kit, tire chains for W123-size
tires, couple of 86-90 MB sales brochures, 150A alternator from a G55
AMG ($125), and probably a few other things I'm not thinking of at the
moment. Got a nice set of five Carat by Duchatalet wheels, 17x8, for a
W124... they're a German tuner like AMG or Brabus... used to have
those on my car, but they hide the big brake kit I plan to install
eventually! Couple of VW 1.6L solid-lifter heads, too. Oh yeah - the
EGT gauge ($100), and - soon - mint Polk F/X 300 surround speakers.

:)

-dm

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 Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:04:21 -0500
 From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Prechamber tools for sale


 On Jan 19, 2006, at 12:08 AM, Dave M. wrote:

  Email me directly with questions... I'd just like to clean out my
  garage!

 H, what else needs to be cleaned out?

 Johnny B
 iMac therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] 81 240D

2006-01-20 Thread LT Don
Speaking as a man who is Loren's elder ... you be really geezin' if you are
calling him a young man!

D.


On 1/20/06, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Get in line, young-un..

 AZ Bob...your elder

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  Is the 240D for sale whole?  If so: 4 spd manual?  Kay Mucho dinero?
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Source to buy cheap 30A relays?

2006-01-20 Thread Rory
Go here my man, and hurry!
http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/item/RLY-351/500/12V_SPDT_30_AMP_AUTOMOTIVE_RELAY_.html

On 1/19/06, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Anyone know a decent source for cube relays, you know, the generic
 little black boxes? Either the type with 87/87a outputs (NO  NC), or
 two 87 outputs (pair of common 87's)? Rallylights.com has nice Hella
 relays for $8 each, I was hoping to find something cheaper, and local.
 Anyone happen to know if AutoZone, Kragen/Shucks/Checker, or NAPA has
 something decent on the shelf? Thought I'd ask before I started
 wandering aimlessly around all the FLAPS...

 FYI, a while ago I bought a lare amount of electrical goodies from a
 wholesaler (connectors, etc) and picked up 10 Potter  Brumfield
 relays for about a buck each. But I used them all up, and another 10
 doesn't meet their min order quantity, I don't have enough other stuff
 to order from them, yadda yadda... just hate paying 800% more when
 they're being used for pedestrian loads like a Valentine-1 remote
 trigger!

 :)

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 1987 300D - 261kmi (Sportline)

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