Re: [MBZ] Ratchet lube

2006-02-26 Thread Hendrik Riessen

ATF would be the go.

Hendrik

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Subject: [MBZ] Ratchet lube



John Berryman wrote:

Unusual for one to fail, may just have gummed up inside. I regularly  
soak all my ratchets in oil, including all my Snap-On ratcheting  
torque wrenches.


This brings up a question I've been meaning to ask for a while now. 
I've got a 1/2 Craftsman ratchet which is older than I am and has an 
oil port on the end.  I'm sure it has never been serviced.  Is there any 
particular oil I should use?


Thanks,
Tom

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Re: [MBZ] Hyundai vs MB

2006-02-26 Thread l02turner

Curt Raymond wrote:
I think that because of the reliability of the Toyotas and Hondas people 
will tend to skimp on maintenance. A friend of mine has a '93 Camry he 
bought from [SNIP]


It's not just the Toyotas and Hondas, - when I owned a MB parts  
accessories mail order business I heard all kinds of things -- people would 
say, It's an $80,000 automobile - I should *never* have to check or add 
oil!!  Unfortunately he was serious.  Didn't bother to ask him about the 
brake fluid of ATF changes - all he wanted was Chrome wheels. ;-\


And I would *hate* to buy a car owned by a jerk like that!

Luckily, the 91 300D I just bought looks more  more like it was maintained 
by a MB dealer - the hoses in the engine compartment and their hose clamps 
all look like OEM.  And they all look fresh - maybe they were changed as 
part of PM or maybe they've just survived well. ;-)  I smile every time I 
look at her.


Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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I just had another incident of  japanese *quality*.
A guy who works with my wife  has a 2003 Honda Civic Hybrid. The thing
only has 134,000 miles on it, all easy highway miles and has been
properly maintained. 2 weeks ago without warning it threw a rod through
the side of the block, no low oil light or anything, just boom. They
brag about an 8 year warranty on the batteries, but only about 30k miles
on the engine. So the guy has a dead honda with two years left on the
note. It's going to cost him well over $3000 to have a USED engine put






[MBZ] Eurovan

2006-02-26 Thread Dan Weeks
I have a diesel Vanagon, the earlier style VW van made from 80-92. 
Mine's an 82, retrofitted with a 1.6 VW TD. It's a Westfalia Camper. 
Stone axe simple, underpowered unless you're used to a 4-cyl MBZ 
diesel, and probably the best-built, most efficient small 
self-contained camper ever made. A handfull in the wind, otherwise 
drives very nicely and is cavernous inside, rides well and will haul 
a ton and ride level while doing it. I love it.


Unfortunately, the Eurovan doesn't get such high marks, from what I 
hear. They're complicated and have a rep for being unreliable. The 
diesel is not made here. Too bad, as I spent a couple weeks touring 
the UK in one with the 2.5l NA 5-cyl diesel. With six people in it, 
it was difficult to keep under the ton line (100 mph) on the 
motorways, was spacious, and handled quite well. Unfortunately, the 
throwout bearing went out toward the end of that trip. The V6 is 
supposed to be a nice engine, but for the considerably money, you can 
probably do better with a honda or toyota.


Dan

Anyone have/had one of these?  How are they?  Is the TDI an option?

Think of replacing a Dodge Caravan.

Allan
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[MBZ] Thermostat Replacement

2006-02-26 Thread l02turner

Howdy -
Rec'd my new T'stat from Rusty yesterday and opened the hood thinking the 
t'stat housing would be on top like most other cars (and my 240D) - to my 
surprise it looks like it's *under* the exhaust manifold!  Doesn't look all 
that hard to get to - 2 nuts and a hose to remove - but the coolant will 
need to be removed and replaced (I know, it probably needs to be replaced 
anyway) but catching it as it flows out might be tricky - and I'll be 
learning how to remove the forward sound panel.  ;-)


Fun, fun, fun!

It's looking like I need to schedule a day where I can change the oil, 
t'stat and motor mounts at one time.   May as well wait and do the ATF  
filter change then too.  Might be a long day --

;-)

Sincerely,
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Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon

2006-02-26 Thread Jim Cathey

Did you not have a cousin who was in dire need of a Benz?


He certainly needs something.  My vote is for a swift kick
in the ass.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] RPM Redline

2006-02-26 Thread David Brodbeck
John Berryman wrote:
 On Feb 24, 2006, at 9:13 PM, David Brodbeck wrote:
 
 Actually, I don't smoke, so I used a chunk of a styrofoam cup.   
 Probably
 the styrofoam has just collapsed.  I need to try again, but I can't  
 get
 the @#$*$#! thing apart...must have tightened it too hard last time.
 
 
   That styrofoam'll kill you.

Heh heh.

Just re-did it.  I used a piece of solder, curled into a circle,
figuring that would compress a little but hold its shape better than the
styrofoam.  It's working so far.



Re: [MBZ] Thermostat Replacement

2006-02-26 Thread Marshall Booth

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Howdy -
Rec'd my new T'stat from Rusty yesterday and opened the hood thinking the 
t'stat housing would be on top like most other cars (and my 240D) - to my 
surprise it looks like it's *under* the exhaust manifold!  Doesn't look all 
that hard to get to - 2 nuts and a hose to remove - but the coolant will 
need to be removed and replaced (I know, it probably needs to be replaced 
anyway) but catching it as it flows out might be tricky - and I'll be 
learning how to remove the forward sound panel.  ;-)


All covered in the cooling system section (20) here: 
http://mb.braingears.com/124_DISC1/Program/engine_602_mech.htm


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Lighter?

2006-02-26 Thread Brian Chase

Ha! That's choice.

It seems the PO tore out the lighter. I saw in the owner's manual a drawing 
of it. It's gone. The PO apparently had a fetish with tearing out things and 
playing with the wires.


Brian
83 240D


From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Lighter?
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 13:21:50 -0500

Given how much Germans smoke, they should have them on the dash, and the 
sun
visor, and the steering wheel, and on the seat between your legs, and in 
all

the headrests, and probably a few outside the car as a courtesy to
pedestrians.

-Dave Walton
94S350, 99E300

On 2/25/06, Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Okay, why didn't anyone tell me there's no cigarette lighter in these
 things? this means no cel phone plug.

 Brian
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Re: [MBZ] Hello from North Platte

2006-02-26 Thread Brian Chase
Shoot. I was so determined to get home tonight that I didn't think of that. 
But I only knew of LT Don in Iowa. Who else is down there?


Don't be surprised if I ask some questions about cold weather starting in 
the near future.


We had a successful trip - the 240 ran great. No noticeable problems with 
those CV joints. No smoking, hardly any oil usage.


Brian
83 240D


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hello from North Platte
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 09:53:37 -0600

Are you taking I-80 thru Iowa?  Several of us live around it.

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 Went beyond Denver to North Platte Nebraska. Sick of driving. 240 still
 functioning great, although while stuck in nasty Colorodo Springs 
traffic,

 I
 noticed a faint scraping sound when I'd let out the clutch to start off 
in

 first. Any ideas?

 Brian
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Re: [MBZ] Hello from North Platte

2006-02-26 Thread LT Don
There are a couple in the Ames / Des Moines area (about an hour east /
southeast) of me.

On 2/25/06, Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Shoot. I was so determined to get home tonight that I didn't think of
 that.
 But I only knew of LT Don in Iowa. Who else is down there?




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Re: [MBZ] Hello from North Platte

2006-02-26 Thread OK Don
That's what http://www.frappr.com/benzbunch is for --  Is everyone registered?

On 2/25/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 There are a couple in the Ames / Des Moines area (about an hour east /
 southeast) of me.

 On 2/25/06, Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Shoot. I was so determined to get home tonight that I didn't think of
  that.
  But I only knew of LT Don in Iowa. Who else is down there?
 

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Re: [MBZ] Morning sluggishness

2006-02-26 Thread Brian Chase

Thanks.

You know what though, this morning was a different story. Nice pep at the 
same time and temp as yesterday's sluggishness.


In fact, that's not the only inconsistency: The mileage suffered, falling 
from the high of 32.6 to around 25 on the next two tanks. I am baffled as to 
why. Does outside temperature affect mileage? We got the higher mileage in 
warmer weather. I mean the engine temp was running the same, but the outside 
temp was colder. Could it be elevation?


Searching for solution, and hoping to get MPGs above 30 again - to make up 
for the price of diesel vs. gas. What's up?


Brian
83 240d


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Morning sluggishness
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 14:43:47 -0800

Old Cold cars are not very happy until they have had a cup of coffee or
two.  Gump takes a few glows on colder mornings.   I live a few miles
from the freeway, so she has ample time to get up to temp. City driving
in the AM she wants some time to wake up.  consider it foreplay.
Fluids are more viscous and the iron just takes a little longer to get
hot enough for full combustion temps to be reached.

Just my vista from a cheap old Benz

On Friday, February 24, 2006, at 11:11 PM, Brian Chase wrote:

 Here's a topic you old timers can relate to:

 Is it common for these diesels to be sluggish when cold? This morning
 it seemed the thing was less peppy than the night before (insert your
 quips here). Was almost scarry trying to take off in traffic - I think
 it was almost floor-boarded and I barely got rolling. Things returned
 to somewhat normal after warming up to normal temp. And after tearing
 down the freeway for numerous miles, peppiness galore. There is no
 smoking, no signs of ill health otherwise.

 Brian
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Re: [MBZ] Morning sluggishness

2006-02-26 Thread LT Don
I can tell a difference depending on how patient (or impatient) I am during
the pre-glow. If I go with absolute minimum pre-glow time (in cold weather),
the car is much more sluggish than it is if I am patient.

On 2/25/06, Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks.

 You know what though, this morning was a different story. Nice pep at the
 same time and temp as yesterday's sluggishness.







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Re: [MBZ] Morning sluggishness

2006-02-26 Thread Marshall Booth

Brian Chase wrote:

Thanks.

You know what though, this morning was a different story. Nice pep at 
the same time and temp as yesterday's sluggishness.


In fact, that's not the only inconsistency: The mileage suffered, 
falling from the high of 32.6 to around 25 on the next two tanks. I am 
baffled as to why. Does outside temperature affect mileage? We got the 
higher mileage in warmer weather. I mean the engine temp was running the 
same, but the outside temp was colder. Could it be elevation?


Searching for solution, and hoping to get MPGs above 30 again - to make 
up for the price of diesel vs. gas. What's up?


Winterized fuel (depends on HOW it's winterized) often delivers 10-20% 
poorer fuel economy that summer fuel. When the engine temp is lower than 
85 deg C, fuel consumption WILL be higher. If the fuel filter is 
plugging up (either from debris, ice OR from clouded/waxed fuel), fuel 
consumption CAN be higher (I know - it doesn't sound logical). If you 
allow the engine to glow for 10-20 seconds AFTER the glow plug goes out, 
cold power will usually be a little less depressed when the engine is 
very cold.


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Hello from North Platte

2006-02-26 Thread Sunil Hari
I just registered, but don't have a photo of my car yet.

On 2/25/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That's what http://www.frappr.com/benzbunch is for --  Is everyone
 registered?

 On 2/25/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  There are a couple in the Ames / Des Moines area (about an hour east /
  southeast) of me.
 
  On 2/25/06, Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Shoot. I was so determined to get home tonight that I didn't think of
   that.
   But I only knew of LT Don in Iowa. Who else is down there?
  

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 '90 300D 243K, Rattled
 '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car
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 '78 450SLC 67K, brown car
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Re: [MBZ] name my car

2006-02-26 Thread OK Don
Zsa Zsa

On 2/25/06, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 1992 300D 2.5T, smoke silver, cream beige interior.  286Kmi.  Not mint by
 any means, but mechanically perfect.

 Name it.   Right now, can't think of anything befitting it, just because
 it's not that unique.  For reference, I named my 1974 240D (green on green)
 Lucille, and never really named my 1984 300Dt.

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Re: [MBZ] name my car

2006-02-26 Thread Werner Fehlauer

How about Heidi?
Werner

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Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 11:08 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] name my car



Zsa Zsa

On 2/25/06, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

1992 300D 2.5T, smoke silver, cream beige interior.  286Kmi.  Not mint by
any means, but mechanically perfect.

Name it.   Right now, can't think of anything befitting it, just because
it's not that unique.  For reference, I named my 1974 240D (green on 
green)

Lucille, and never really named my 1984 300Dt.

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Re: [MBZ] name my car

2006-02-26 Thread Rick Knoble

Gray Ghost
Silver Shadow
Silver you know? Hi Ho Silver?
Lady In Gray
Freud
Can't seem to think of anything that is really good.
Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT
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Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 9:31 PM
Subject: [MBZ] name my car



1992 300D 2.5T, smoke silver, cream beige interior.  286Kmi.  Not mint by
any means, but mechanically perfect.

Name it.   Right now, can't think of anything befitting it, just because
it's not that unique.  For reference, I named my 1974 240D (green on 
green)

Lucille, and never really named my 1984 300Dt.

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Re: [MBZ] Isolating small oil leak around radiator

2006-02-26 Thread Werner Fehlauer
John - just under the rear/bottom of the radiator, the transmission oil 
cooler lines transition from rubber the steel, which often rust as the area 
collects moisture, and is easy to overlook (especially if you use topsider 
oil changes).
I wirebrushed the steel lines and primed and painted them before they could 
perforate and leak.  An easy job to do with the sound panel removed, but 
worth checking.


Werner
'90 300D 2.5, 221k miles

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Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 9:44 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Isolating small oil leak around radiator



Friends, my 300D came out of winter hibernation for a day yesterday and I
noticed a small drip of oil (not trans fluid) from the bottom driver's 
side

of the Behr radiator.  It is very hard to see the origin of the drip- as
chasing oil that is falling by gravity and wind is never easy.  Here is my
question for the savants of this group.  What are likely places for this
leak on that side of the radiator or nearby so that I can clean things and
see where this is coming from?

As a side note, one month of sitting in 10-40 degree temps here in Rhode
Island and the MB fired after one glow and first compression turnover.  I
have had gas cars that won't start if left for 2 weeks.

John Peterson
Kingston RI
1991 300D 2.5 77k miles





Re: [MBZ] name my car

2006-02-26 Thread OK Don
Smoke Silver looks like champagne to me -- for what it's worth 
how about Brut?

On 2/25/06, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Gray Ghost
 Silver Shadow
 Silver you know? Hi Ho Silver?
 Lady In Gray
 Freud
 Can't seem to think of anything that is really good.
 Rick Knoble
 '85 300 CD
 '87 190 DT


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'78 450SLC 67K, brown car
'97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go



Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon

2006-02-26 Thread ms . 300SD
Of course, I could tell my hubby a little white lie and say, I'm keeping it
for a friend, who didn't want to bring it home to her house, just yet, just
like Dad used to say to Mom, when Mom would see another gun, Dad would say,
oh that's not mine, it's so and so's.  I'm just keeping it here for him for
a while...

Come on, somebody!  A coupla cans of Diesel purge, some good car wash,
carpet vacuum and shampoo, some of that nice Meguiar's #25 wax, and some
long cruises on the freeway, and I know she'd be a nice car.those two
tanks!

Anyone!



On 2/25/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Did you not have a cousin who was in dire need of a Benz?

 He certainly needs something.  My vote is for a swift kick
 in the ass.

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[MBZ] sagging rear 126

2006-02-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Will really worn out shocks cause the rear end of a 126 to sag and have 
the wheels slightly tilted toward the center at the top(like when car 
pushed down) or should I look for something else?  Shocks are REALLY bad 
on this car for starters.  Has 160k miles.

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Re: [MBZ] sagging rear 126

2006-02-26 Thread OK Don
Shocks dampen the re-bound of the springs, they don't hold anything
up. Must be the springs ?

On 2/25/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Will really worn out shocks cause the rear end of a 126 to sag and have
 the wheels slightly tilted toward the center at the top(like when car
 pushed down) or should I look for something else?  Shocks are REALLY bad
 on this car for starters.  Has 160k miles.
 --

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'87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car
'81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car
'78 450SLC 67K, brown car
'97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go



Re: [MBZ] sagging rear 126

2006-02-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

Im thinking subframe mounts.

OK Don wrote:


Shocks dampen the re-bound of the springs, they don't hold anything
up. Must be the springs ?

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Will really worn out shocks cause the rear end of a 126 to sag and have
the wheels slightly tilted toward the center at the top(like when car
pushed down) or should I look for something else?  Shocks are REALLY bad
on this car for starters.  Has 160k miles.
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Re: [MBZ] name my car

2006-02-26 Thread ms . 300SD
Brut...ah..now that smell takes me back, way
back.

I like that nameI like it alot
!
Lynn

On 2/25/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Smoke Silver looks like champagne to me -- for what it's worth 
 how about Brut?

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  Gray Ghost
  Silver Shadow
  Silver you know? Hi Ho Silver?
  Lady In Gray
  Freud
  Can't seem to think of anything that is really good.
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  '87 190 DT


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Re: [MBZ] sagging rear 126

2006-02-26 Thread M.Afzaal Khan
Recently I replaced all four  shocks on 300Se ; the car stands higher as 
compared to before 20mm or so  The ride is taut and firm now as compard to 
the softy  feel before,

Mak

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Subject: [MBZ] sagging rear 126



Will really worn out shocks cause the rear end of a 126 to sag and have
the wheels slightly tilted toward the center at the top(like when car
pushed down) or should I look for something else?  Shocks are REALLY bad
on this car for starters.  Has 160k miles.
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Re: [MBZ] sagging rear 126

2006-02-26 Thread Jim Cathey

Will really worn out shocks cause the rear end of a 126 to sag and have
the wheels slightly tilted toward the center at the top(like when car
pushed down) or should I look for something else?  Shocks are REALLY 
bad

on this car for starters.  Has 160k miles.


The MB shocks have very little spring action to them as compared
to some other cars, and so aren't responsible for very much of
the ride height.  But the subframe mounts and spring pads are
both rubber and can degrade and cause camber problems.  (So also
can wrecks, the cause of our SDL's original camber problem, though
it didn't sag noticeably.)

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Lighter?

2006-02-26 Thread Jim Cathey
It seems the PO tore out the lighter. I saw in the owner's manual a 
drawing
of it. It's gone. The PO apparently had a fetish with tearing out 
things and

playing with the wires.


Replace it with a good junkyard one then.  There ought to be
a lot of them floating around.  I've certainly left enough of
them in cars I've plundered.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Lighter?

2006-02-26 Thread Brian Chase
Yeah, I was figgerin on finding a yard around here to hunt. I also need the 
piece of wood trim on the far right side of dash (part that curves around). 
Also need glove box light (refer to PO's fetish). Also need manual shifter 
boot. For that matter, need antenna and radio, though considering a modern 
radio.


If you want, let me know what you would get for the ash tray, and what it 
might cost to ship it here.


Brian
83 240D


From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Lighter?
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 23:26:49 -0600

you should probably buy a new ash tray then, I have plenty.

Brian Chase wrote:

 Ha! That's choice.

 It seems the PO tore out the lighter. I saw in the owner's manual a 
drawing
 of it. It's gone. The PO apparently had a fetish with tearing out things 
and

 playing with the wires.

 Brian
 83 240D


From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Lighter?
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 13:21:50 -0500

Given how much Germans smoke, they should have them on the dash, and the
sun
visor, and the steering wheel, and on the seat between your legs, and in
all
the headrests, and probably a few outside the car as a courtesy to
pedestrians.

-Dave Walton
94S350, 99E300

On 2/25/06, Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Okay, why didn't anyone tell me there's no cigarette lighter in these
things? this means no cel phone plug.

Brian
83 240D

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Re: [MBZ] Hello from North Platte

2006-02-26 Thread Brian Chase
Yeah, I saw that frappr some time ago and asked what it was about. Recently 
talked to Chuck and was reminded of it. I shall get about putting a picture 
on it.


Brian
83 240D


From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hello from North Platte
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 22:29:03 -0500

I just registered, but don't have a photo of my car yet.

On 2/25/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That's what http://www.frappr.com/benzbunch is for --  Is everyone
 registered?

 On 2/25/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  There are a couple in the Ames / Des Moines area (about an hour east /
  southeast) of me.
 
  On 2/25/06, Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Shoot. I was so determined to get home tonight that I didn't think 
of

   that.
   But I only knew of LT Don in Iowa. Who else is down there?
  

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Re: [MBZ] Morning sluggishness

2006-02-26 Thread Brian Chase
You know, that makes the most sense of anything I can think of. And that 
sucks, as it's cold most of the year around here. Although, we aren't really 
planning on driving the thing during the salty season.


For that matter, I was going to ask the cold-climate listers what they do 
about deciding whether to store their klattas in the winter, or drive them, 
and if they store them, do they start them like once a week, or do they pull 
out the battery and really mothball them.


Brian
83 240D


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Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 22:24:54 -0500


On Feb 25, 2006, at 10:01 PM, Brian Chase wrote:

 In fact, that's not the only inconsistency: The mileage suffered,
 falling from the high of 32.6 to around 25 on the next two tanks. I
 am baffled as to why. Does outside temperature affect mileage? We
 got the higher mileage in warmer weather. I mean the engine temp
 was running the same, but the outside temp was colder. Could it be
 elevation?

 Searching for solution, and hoping to get MPGs above 30 again - to
 make up for the price of diesel vs. gas. What's up?

 Brian
 83 240d


You may be getting winterized fuel, you can expect to get lower mpgs
with it.

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[MBZ] No starter response

2006-02-26 Thread Brian Chase

Another issue!

We took the 240 out to the pub tonight, and when I jumped in to start it I 
got zero response when I tried to engaged the starter.


I glowed like normal, then turned the key to start and nothing. This was 
repeated another time or two, then the next time - success - the starter ran 
like normal. Had to glow again to get a start. It is around 10 degrees out 
here tonight, and we were in the pub for some three hours.


Was just glad not to have to call a tow or try to figure out the problem in 
the cold while the wife waited. But dreading it happening again.


Sound like a bad connection somewhere? Or what?

Brian
83 240D

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Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon

2006-02-26 Thread kevin kraly
it sounds just PERFECT other than the fact that I don't have the $500 or so 
to plunk down on it right now!


Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
1973 220D project 





Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon

2006-02-26 Thread Ed Booher
I'm assuming the second tank is in the trunk? Do you know if someone
was trying to run it off straight veggie oil?

On 2/26/06, ms. 300SD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Of course, I could tell my hubby a little white lie and say, I'm keeping it
 for a friend, who didn't want to bring it home to her house, just yet, just
 like Dad used to say to Mom, when Mom would see another gun, Dad would say,
 oh that's not mine, it's so and so's.  I'm just keeping it here for him for
 a while...

 Come on, somebody!  A coupla cans of Diesel purge, some good car wash,
 carpet vacuum and shampoo, some of that nice Meguiar's #25 wax, and some
 long cruises on the freeway, and I know she'd be a nice car.those two
 tanks!

 Anyone!



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   Did you not have a cousin who was in dire need of a Benz?
 
  He certainly needs something.  My vote is for a swift kick
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[MBZ] Flea's w126

2006-02-26 Thread tom savage

http://hooptyrides.com/



Re: [MBZ] name my car

2006-02-26 Thread Bob Rentfro


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] name my car



Brut...ah..now that smell takes me back, way
back.

I like that nameI like it alot
!
Lynn

On 2/25/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Smoke Silver looks like champagne to me -- for what it's worth 
how about Brut?

On 2/25/06, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Gray Ghost
 Silver Shadow
 Silver you know? Hi Ho Silver?
 Lady In Gray
 Freud
 Can't seem to think of anything that is really good.
 Rick Knoble
 '85 300 CD
 '87 190 DT


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Re: [MBZ] name my car

2006-02-26 Thread Bob Rentfro
Brutand Brute...one smells more than the other but, in a pinch, I 
imagine you could drink either one.


Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 149K
'01 VW Beetle TDI 61K
Litchfield Park, AZ

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] name my car



Brut...ah..now that smell takes me back, way
back.

I like that nameI like it alot
!
Lynn

On 2/25/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Smoke Silver looks like champagne to me -- for what it's worth 
how about Brut?

On 2/25/06, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Gray Ghost
 Silver Shadow
 Silver you know? Hi Ho Silver?
 Lady In Gray
 Freud
 Can't seem to think of anything that is really good.
 Rick Knoble
 '85 300 CD
 '87 190 DT


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'78 450SLC 67K, brown car
'97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go

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Re: [MBZ] Hyundai vs MB

2006-02-26 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
Get a load of the luck that this poor sap has had with Honda *quality*  
http://cgi.ebay.ca/2001-Unsafe-Honda-Insight-Own-a-peice-of-History_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ31839QQitemZ4613284728QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
At least if the winning bidder actually pays for the thing, hell recoup 
his financial losses.


--Robert



Robert  Tara Ludwick wrote:

I just had another incident of  japanese *quality*.
A guy who works with my wife  has a 2003 Honda Civic Hybrid. The thing 
only has 134,000 miles on it, all easy highway miles and has been 
properly maintained. 2 weeks ago without warning it threw a rod through 
the side of the block, no low oil light or anything, just boom. They 
brag about an 8 year warranty on the batteries, but only about 30k miles 
on the engine. So the guy has a dead honda with two years left on the 
note. It's going to cost him well over $3000 to have a USED engine put 
in the thing ( gee, wonder if it'll last as long as the last one )


And to top it off, that hybrid NEVER got the kind of fuel milage that 
they bragged about, in fact it got about the same  or less than most of 
these MB diesels. To think he could have been commuting 140 miles a day 
in comfort instead of getting his bones rattled for the same fuel milage.


--Robert

Curt Raymond wrote:
  

I think that because of the reliability of the Toyotas and Hondas people will tend to skimp on 
maintenance. A friend of mine has a '93 Camry he bought from his inlaws. At one point I asked how 
often he changed the oil. Oh whenever I think of it... It wasn't long after that he put 
a new engine in because of citical bearing failure. Now with something like 200k on the ticker he 
wasn't too broken up about it. $3000 later had a new 100,000 mile engine in which he's 
still driving (4 years later) after something like another 100,000 miles but now he uses synthetic 
oil changed at 8k.
   
  Remember the Honda comercial where they welded the hood shut? I had a teacher in highschool that believed it. Never checked the oil, added any oil or anything. That engine lasted like 20kmi... So the engine was replaced, then she checked the oil and just kept adding as it went down. In something like 30k she was back at the shop for engine #3...
   
  -Curt
   
  Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 18:29:53 -0600

From: Robert  Tara Ludwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hyundai vs MB
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I'm beginning to think that all the hype on Toyotas and Hondas is just 
a 
byproduct of sheer numbers. I see the things with all kinds of problems 
all the time ( and I politely tell the owners who to take them to 
because I refuse to work on the things ) . I think the reason that we 
hear so much hype about them is because with so stinking many of the 
things being built all the time, the law of avarages is going to 
produce 
a seemingly high number of exceedingly positive stories, but from what 
I 
see, they are no better, and possibly worse than  many other makes. I 
honestly see more problems with toyotas than fords or GMs these days.
My mother bought a Toyota camery last year ( after passing on a 2 year 
old MB that was  previously owned by a friends son who was an MB 
mechanic and had all the bugs out of the thing for about the same money 
) and even with a supposed warrenty she's had to put out a bundle in 
uncovered repair expenses on the thing.
Toyota and honda owners generally get real defensive about their cars, 
but if you dig deep enough you find that most are spending as much or 
in 
many cases way more to keep the things on the road.


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Re: [MBZ] No starter response

2006-02-26 Thread John W. Reames III
Did you move the shifter at all?
If so, it might be the shift linkage bushings or the neutral safety 
switch.
 
-j.




Re: [MBZ] Hyundai vs MB

2006-02-26 Thread John W. Reames III
On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Curt Raymond wrote:
 It's not just the Toyotas and Hondas, - when I owned a MB parts  
 accessories mail order business I heard all kinds of things -- people would 
 say, It's an $80,000 automobile - I should *never* have to check or add 
 oil!!  Unfortunately he was serious.  Didn't bother to ask him about the 
 brake fluid of ATF changes - all he wanted was Chrome wheels. ;-\

Speaking of that, I check my oil regularly, and finally had to add a quart 
to the '99 E300TD, 10.5K mi into my stewardship. (It is a FSS car, bought 
from a stealership, and the FSS counter was at 9100 when I bought it. The 
counter now sits at 2100, 3.5 mos and 10.5K mi later) I don't know if its 
because the 606 is a tighter engine or if it is because it is highway 
mileage, but I'm impressed :)
-j.






Re: [MBZ] OT: SnapOn warranty

2006-02-26 Thread John W. Reames III
On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ratchet decided to let go.  I smashed  the nail on my pinky-finger, and
 will probably lose it in time--yes, it  hurts.

If you catch it while the blood is still pooling underneath (before it 
coagulates), take a small (3/32) sharp (brand new!) drill bit and 
carefully (using your fingers as the method of turning and applying 
pressure) drill a hole right over the crush spot. It will save you a LOT 
of pain and the nail may not even peel.

-j.





Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon

2006-02-26 Thread John Berryman


On Feb 26, 2006, at 12:11 AM, ms.300SD wrote:


Come on, somebody!  A coupla cans of Diesel purge, some good car wash,
carpet vacuum and shampoo, some of that nice Meguiar's #25 wax, and  
some
long cruises on the freeway, and I know she'd be a nice  
car.those two

tanks!

Anyone!


	I'll take it if someone will drive it out to NY. will pay traveling  
expenses and return flight to Oregon, deluxe accommodations while  
here in a beautiful log home overlooking The Queen of American Lakes.
	I'd fly out and do it myself, just for the adventure but I have  
already spent more than 4 months away from home. My wife might be  
game for such an adventure if she can use some accrued vacation time.
	Here's another option; someone drive it to LaHonda Ca for me and  
I'll drive it back East after a visit with my sister. This is  
actually a very feasible idea for me.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] sagging rear 126

2006-02-26 Thread John Berryman


On Feb 26, 2006, at 12:21 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

Will really worn out shocks cause the rear end of a 126 to sag and  
have

the wheels slightly tilted toward the center at the top(like when car
pushed down) or should I look for something else?  Shocks are  
REALLY bad

on this car for starters.  Has 160k miles.
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK



	Have you checked the trunk for dead bodies yet? Water in the spare  
well or lower 1/4 panels? Could be sub-frame mounts or spring  
rubbers.  Springs rarely go bad but it is possible. Does it have SLS?


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] name my car

2006-02-26 Thread John Berryman


On Feb 26, 2006, at 12:34 AM, ms.300SD wrote:


Brut...ah..now that smell takes me back, way
back.

I like that nameI like it alot
!
Lynn



OK Lynn,
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comes to mind.



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Re: [MBZ] Morning sluggishness

2006-02-26 Thread John Berryman


On Feb 26, 2006, at 2:30 AM, Brian Chase wrote:

For that matter, I was going to ask the cold-climate listers what  
they do
about deciding whether to store their klattas in the winter, or  
drive them,
and if they store them, do they start them like once a week, or do  
they pull

out the battery and really mothball them.

Brian
83 240D



	I have so many MB diesels that every year some get driven daily or  
close to it, some get started periodically and some just sit there  
and I fire them up when the need arises. Nothing bad has ever  
happened to the cars left sitting. Last Summer, I fired up a car that  
sat three years with a half tank of fuel. The car was immediately put  
back in service after fully charging the battery and has not even  
hiccuped since.
	Road salt is terrible so I make my best effort to keep the most rust- 
free bodies away from salt, especially the solution found on wet  
roads around here. My least favorite sound is that of salt/sand  
impregnated slush being power-fed to my undercarriage.
	Do whatever you want to with it. Its doubtful any harm will come. A  
full tank of fuel may keep some condensation out which could be  
beneficial in that algae needs H2O to live and prosper.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon

2006-02-26 Thread Ed Booher
At this point, I'm about 3 cars away from renting an 18 wheeled hauler
and heading West for a weekend *laughs*

Oh ... right ... money, can't afford that.

*sighs*

On 2/26/06, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Feb 26, 2006, at 12:11 AM, ms.300SD wrote:

  Come on, somebody!  A coupla cans of Diesel purge, some good car wash,
  carpet vacuum and shampoo, some of that nice Meguiar's #25 wax, and
  some
  long cruises on the freeway, and I know she'd be a nice
  car.those two
  tanks!
 
  Anyone!

I'll take it if someone will drive it out to NY. will pay traveling
 expenses and return flight to Oregon, deluxe accommodations while
 here in a beautiful log home overlooking The Queen of American Lakes.
I'd fly out and do it myself, just for the adventure but I have
 already spent more than 4 months away from home. My wife might be
 game for such an adventure if she can use some accrued vacation time.
Here's another option; someone drive it to LaHonda Ca for me and
 I'll drive it back East after a visit with my sister. This is
 actually a very feasible idea for me.

 Johnny B.
 I Mac Therefore I am

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Re: [MBZ] No starter response

2006-02-26 Thread John Berryman


On Feb 26, 2006, at 2:37 AM, Brian Chase wrote:


Sound like a bad connection somewhere? Or what?

Brian
83 240D



	Try it in neutral (if its automatic), your shift linkage or neutral  
safety switch may be out of adjustment. In most cases this is an  
indicator that the starter solenoid is about to completely fail.  
Sometimes when this starts to happen you can jump directly to the  
solenoid from the battery, shortening the circuit and providing more  
current to the solenoid. Start thinking about installing a reman  
Bosch starter because 9 times out of 10 that is the only cure. Unless  
of course you're cheap and want to go for a solenoid only. The down  
side to this is the rest of the starter is just as tired.


Johnny B.
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Re: [MBZ] sagging rear 126

2006-02-26 Thread Bob DuPuy
My experience with several W126s has been that you can replace the
shocks sub frame and diff monuts all you want and you'll only add a
few mm to the ride height. If she is really ridin low in the rear look
to springs pads or the spings themselves. A quicker cheaper but not so
elegant way of dealing with it is to go to the local speed shop and
get a mrgasket spring rubber for about $12.00. Cut it in half  jack up
the back and slap them in. Some times a little dish liquid helps. As a
side note If you get the ride height right but the wheels still lean
in, it could be a damaged lower control arm. I've had two that defied
detection by inspection but were definitely out of shape yeilding bad
rear camber.

Bob DuPuy

On 2/26/06, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Feb 26, 2006, at 12:49 AM, M.Afzaal Khan wrote:

  Recently I replaced all four  shocks on 300Se ; the car stands
  higher as
  compared to before 20mm or so  The ride is taut and firm now as
  compard to
  the softy  feel before,
  Mak


The shocks would be gas charged, although I have not had this
 experience I suppose the gas pressure might hold it up a bit. Did you
 measure it after lowering and before rolling the car? This could
 yield false results.

 Johnny B.
 I Mac Therefore I am

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[MBZ] Loosing oil

2006-02-26 Thread Bruce Lulfs
I am a new MB owner and could not buy a nice car. I got a 85 300 SD With the
help of a new friend got it to run nice. I took it out for a short drive and
made a fast stop ( Did not shut it off ) Walking back to the car I saw oil
coming out fast. I got it back home ok looked under it and I could see on
the passenger side on top of the oil pan a big tube that looks like it goes
up to the turbo. Right where it comes out of the oil pan seems to be where
the oil is coming from. I got a mess all under the car. 

Can anyone tell me how to go about trying to fix this?

Thank you
Bruce
Toledo Ohio
 
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Re: [MBZ] sagging rear 126

2006-02-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
no bodies etc.  Its a 420 so no SLS.  It has always been my thought that 
if its sagging its usually the subframe mounts etc but wondered if 
REALLY REALLY worn out shocks could also cause a sag.


John Berryman wrote:


On Feb 26, 2006, at 12:21 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


Will really worn out shocks cause the rear end of a 126 to sag and  
have

the wheels slightly tilted toward the center at the top(like when car
pushed down) or should I look for something else?  Shocks are  
REALLY bad

on this car for starters.  Has 160k miles.
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK




	Have you checked the trunk for dead bodies yet? Water in the spare  
well or lower 1/4 panels? Could be sub-frame mounts or spring  
rubbers.  Springs rarely go bad but it is possible. Does it have SLS?


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Re: [MBZ] sagging rear 126

2006-02-26 Thread Trampas
Kaleb,

You mean worn springs don't you?

Trampas

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] sagging rear 126

no bodies etc.  Its a 420 so no SLS.  It has always been my thought that 
if its sagging its usually the subframe mounts etc but wondered if 
REALLY REALLY worn out shocks could also cause a sag.

John Berryman wrote:

 On Feb 26, 2006, at 12:21 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 
 
Will really worn out shocks cause the rear end of a 126 to sag and  
have
the wheels slightly tilted toward the center at the top(like when car
pushed down) or should I look for something else?  Shocks are  
REALLY bad
on this car for starters.  Has 160k miles.
-- 
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 
 
 
   Have you checked the trunk for dead bodies yet? Water in the spare  
 well or lower 1/4 panels? Could be sub-frame mounts or spring  
 rubbers.  Springs rarely go bad but it is possible. Does it have SLS?
 
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Re: [MBZ] sagging rear 126

2006-02-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

no, I mean shocks.

Trampas wrote:


Kaleb,

You mean worn springs don't you?

Trampas

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] sagging rear 126

no bodies etc.  Its a 420 so no SLS.  It has always been my thought that 
if its sagging its usually the subframe mounts etc but wondered if 
REALLY REALLY worn out shocks could also cause a sag.


John Berryman wrote:



On Feb 26, 2006, at 12:21 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:



Will really worn out shocks cause the rear end of a 126 to sag and  
have

the wheels slightly tilted toward the center at the top(like when car
pushed down) or should I look for something else?  Shocks are  
REALLY bad

on this car for starters.  Has 160k miles.
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK




	Have you checked the trunk for dead bodies yet? Water in the spare  
well or lower 1/4 panels? Could be sub-frame mounts or spring  
rubbers.  Springs rarely go bad but it is possible. Does it have SLS?


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Re: [MBZ] Loosing oil

2006-02-26 Thread James Zavesky
easy do it yourself fix just make sure you don't drop any of the grommet in
the oil pan else you'll be removing the oil pan and will need an oil pan
gasket

that return oil area is made up of a flange and two telescoping tubes

there is a gasket to the flange that connects to the turbo
there is a large Grommet ontop of the oil pan that dries out
and if I remember right there is a 'O' ring between the two tubes

Call Rusty at 1 800 741 5252 he's familiar with those parts

James Zavesky


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Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 9:04 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Loosing oil


 I am a new MB owner and could not buy a nice car. I got a 85 300 SD With
the
 help of a new friend got it to run nice. I took it out for a short drive
and
 made a fast stop ( Did not shut it off ) Walking back to the car I saw oil
 coming out fast. I got it back home ok looked under it and I could see on
 the passenger side on top of the oil pan a big tube that looks like it
goes
 up to the turbo. Right where it comes out of the oil pan seems to be where
 the oil is coming from. I got a mess all under the car.

 Can anyone tell me how to go about trying to fix this?

 Thank you
 Bruce
 Toledo Ohio

 Starting to make Biodiesel
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Re: [MBZ] Loosing oil

2006-02-26 Thread John Berryman


On Feb 26, 2006, at 9:04 AM, Bruce Lulfs wrote:

I am a new MB owner and could not buy a nice car. I got a 85 300 SD  
With the
help of a new friend got it to run nice. I took it out for a short  
drive and
made a fast stop ( Did not shut it off ) Walking back to the car I  
saw oil
coming out fast. I got it back home ok looked under it and I could  
see on
the passenger side on top of the oil pan a big tube that looks like  
it goes
up to the turbo. Right where it comes out of the oil pan seems to  
be where

the oil is coming from. I got a mess all under the car.

Can anyone tell me how to go about trying to fix this?

Thank you
Bruce



OK everybody PAY ATTENTION to this free and handy advice:

	Unbolt the upper telescoping tube from the turbo and pull it down  
some. Put a HD gear type hose clamp around the bottom of the lower  
tube with the mechanism above a sturdy and easy to reach portion of  
the upper pan casting. Pry up with suitable pry bar, lower the clamp  
and do it again and maybe even again 1 or 2 more times until the tube  
clears the hole. Remove as a unit. You will find that the old seal  
has turned to stone. It will be cracked. Try to not drop too many  
chunks into the pan when you carefully break it out.
	Purchase a turbo oil return seal kit and new gasket for the upper  
tube. After cleaning the old gasket off glue the new one to the upper  
flange. Re-insert the tube(assembled with new seal) into the new  
lubricated lower seal, extend the upper tube and bolt in place. Done.
	Coincidentally, I just found a few photos of this method being  
employed last night. This is a trick that I came up with quite a few  
years ago and shared with many on the old mbz.org mailing lists.




Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] sagging rear 126

2006-02-26 Thread Jim Cathey

if its sagging its usually the subframe mounts etc but wondered if
REALLY REALLY worn out shocks could also cause a sag.


Well, I once removed the rear shocks entirely from the Chicken
Wagon when chasing a mysterious rattle, and I don't recall that
it sat any lower than normal.  (Yes, it was the Kyb shocks that
were rattling.)

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Flea's w126

2006-02-26 Thread Jim Cathey

http://hooptyrides.com/


Cool!  I wonder if that kind of paint (or decal) job would
enhance the Frankenheap or not.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Morning sluggishness

2006-02-26 Thread Jim Cathey
For that matter, I was going to ask the cold-climate listers what they 
do
about deciding whether to store their klattas in the winter, or drive 
them,
and if they store them, do they start them like once a week, or do 
they pull

out the battery and really mothball them.


I just park 'em, often with a battery tender on.  Lacking a tender
I'd just unhook the battery.

-- Jim




[MBZ] what is going on with Mobil 1

2006-02-26 Thread Allan Streib
I know -- not another oil thread.  I admit I don't normally read them
myself, so I probably have missed discussion of this.  So I do
apologize if this is old news, but... I was at Wal Mart yesterday
looking for Mobil 1 Truck and SUV  and I noticed that it is now 5W-30
weight and no longer diesel rated.

Looking around, they had nothing else they had in stock as far as
Mobil 1 seemed suitable.  I am overdue for an oil change, so I picked
up 2 gallons of Chevron Delo -- inexpensive, and good oil (though not
Mobil 1).

It's a bit frustrating that they keep reformulating and relabeling
these oils.  Hopefully they are at least improving them in the
process.

So, for reference next time, what is the recommended M1 oil for an MB
diesel?  Do I need to hunt down some Devlac 1?

Allan
--
1966 230
1983 300D




Re: [MBZ] Flea's w126

2006-02-26 Thread John Berryman


On Feb 26, 2006, at 10:13 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:


Cool!  I wonder if that kind of paint (or decal) job would
enhance the Frankenheap or not.

-- Jim



	Of course it would. Dumping a gallon of interior flat latex (any  
color) on it would be an enhancement.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] what is going on with Mobil 1

2006-02-26 Thread John Berryman


On Feb 26, 2006, at 10:25 AM, Allan Streib wrote:


It's a bit frustrating that they keep reformulating and relabeling
these oils.  Hopefully they are at least improving them in the
process.

So, for reference next time, what is the recommended M1 oil for an MB
diesel?  Do I need to hunt down some Devlac 1?

Allan



	This has a lot to do with why I became an Amsoil Dealer.  
Availability has more to do with it.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] Hello from Santa Fe

2006-02-26 Thread Curt Raymond
Hi Brian,
   
  I think you'll find that to be a pretty terrific number for a 240D. The best 
I've done in 50kmi with mine is 31.6mpg. I expect if I lived somewhere with no 
traffic so I could merge gently onto the highway or if I could force myself to 
drive 400 miles at 65mph I could do better but it would really take some work.
   
  The best tank out of my 190D 2.2l so far is around 34mpg but its improved 
with every tank. I think the car hadn't been driven much before I bought it.
   
  -Curt
  '85 190D Dory 234kmi
  '83 240D Hammie 253kmi
   
  Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 23:23:28 -0700
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AAaak. I found out it was 32.6 MPG. I'm still pretty happy - especially 
considering the terrain and the luggage/tools/supplies.

Brian




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  Look in the ashtray... The one in my '83 never worked but rather than 
troubleshooting it I wired one up in the panel above the passenger's feet, 
works slick and is sufficiently out of the way.
   
  -Curt
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  '83 240D Hammie 253kmi
   
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Okay, why didn't anyone tell me there's no cigarette lighter in these 
things? this means no cel phone plug.

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Re: [MBZ] name my car

2006-02-26 Thread Tom Scordato
I am not into naming my cars, but see it as fun and sentimental for those 
who do.


Always thought if I did I would call it Janis for the great late singer 
Janis Joplin who said oh Lord wouldn't you buy me a Mercedes Benz, my 
friend all drive Porches, I must make immense...






















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Subject: [MBZ] name my car



1992 300D 2.5T, smoke silver, cream beige interior.  286Kmi.  Not mint by
any means, but mechanically perfect.

Name it.   Right now, can't think of anything befitting it, just because
it's not that unique.  For reference, I named my 1974 240D (green on 
green)

Lucille, and never really named my 1984 300Dt.

--
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Re: [MBZ] name my car

2006-02-26 Thread Jim Cathey

Always thought if I did I would call it Janis for the great late singer
Janis Joplin who said oh Lord wouldn't you buy me a Mercedes Benz, my
friend all drive Porches, I must make immense...


That would be amends, and that would be a 450 SL, or so I've heard.

Own your own 'Janis':  http://cathey.dogear.com/JSLsale.html
We now return you to your regular program.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Hello from Santa Fe

2006-02-26 Thread Jim Cathey

  The best tank out of my 190D 2.2l so far is around 34mpg but its

My wife's X 190D 2.2 5spd once returned 41mpg and regularly got
35mpg and up.


So why am I hoping for better out of our to-be 2.5 5spd?  Call me
a dreamer, I guess!

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Hello from Santa Fe

2006-02-26 Thread John Berryman


On Feb 26, 2006, at 11:12 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:


So why am I hoping for better out of our to-be 2.5 5spd?  Call me
a dreamer, I guess!

-- Jim


	Because you're unemployed at present. I Hope you win the lottery and  
never need another job.


Nothing wrong wishful thinking though.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] Hyundai vs MB

2006-02-26 Thread Desert Rat
John,
not to alarm you but there has been some real problems with MB and the
early FSS (started in 98) system and not using Mobil 1. Sludging and
engine damage resulted from these extended oil change intervals.

MB lost a lawsuit and now have extended the warranties and picked up
engine repairs for these models.

If it were my MB, I would be sure it has Mobil 1 in the crankcase and
change it out right now.

Now, what were we saying about Honda and Toyota's?

On 2/26/06, John W. Reames III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Curt Raymond wrote:
  It's not just the Toyotas and Hondas, - when I owned a MB parts 
  accessories mail order business I heard all kinds of things -- people would
  say, It's an $80,000 automobile - I should *never* have to check or add
  oil!!  Unfortunately he was serious.  Didn't bother to ask him about the
  brake fluid of ATF changes - all he wanted was Chrome wheels. ;-\

 Speaking of that, I check my oil regularly, and finally had to add a quart
 to the '99 E300TD, 10.5K mi into my stewardship. (It is a FSS car, bought
 from a stealership, and the FSS counter was at 9100 when I bought it. The
 counter now sits at 2100, 3.5 mos and 10.5K mi later) I don't know if its
 because the 606 is a tighter engine or if it is because it is highway
 mileage, but I'm impressed :)
 -j.




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Re: [MBZ] Hyundai vs MB

2006-02-26 Thread John W. Reames III
On Sun, 26 Feb 2006, Desert Rat wrote:
 If it were my MB, I would be sure it has Mobil 1 in the crankcase and
 change it out right now.
It does have M1 in the crankcase
-j.





Re: [MBZ] what is going on with Mobil 1

2006-02-26 Thread l02turner
I guess each Wallymart is different - when I bought oil for my 300D they had 
M1 15-50 (in extended when I wanted regular), along with several other 
weights  Delvac and a good selection of other oils - including Castrol 
Syntec and lots of dino oils.


Don;t know ahout your location, but we have more Walmarts around here than 
you can shake a stick at.  Let's see - within a 20 miles radius there's - 6 
including a couple of Superstores and 24/7 stores.  Sounds like too many to 
me.  We live close to Richmond, Va (too close).
WOW! Did a Locate a store on the Walmart site - there's 13 stores! 
Admittedly some are not very close - but that still leaves 10 W'marts!.


Geez - no wonder some communitees complain when they want to build *another* 
one.

Anyway -
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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- Original Message - 
From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 10:25 AM
Subject: [MBZ] what is going on with Mobil 1



I know -- not another oil thread.  I admit I don't normally read them
myself, so I probably have missed discussion of this.  So I do
apologize if this is old news, but... I was at Wal Mart yesterday
looking for Mobil 1 Truck and SUV  and I noticed that it is now 5W-30
weight and no longer diesel rated.

Looking around, they had nothing else they had in stock as far as
Mobil 1 seemed suitable.  I am overdue for an oil change, so I picked
up 2 gallons of Chevron Delo -- inexpensive, and good oil (though not
Mobil 1).

It's a bit frustrating that they keep reformulating and relabeling
these oils.  Hopefully they are at least improving them in the
process.

So, for reference next time, what is the recommended M1 oil for an MB
diesel?  Do I need to hunt down some Devlac 1?

Allan
--
1966 230
1983 300D


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[MBZ] TV tuner for Mac

2006-02-26 Thread John Berryman
	Does anyone have any info on watching TV on a Mac? I know its done  
but that's all I know. I'd pay if need be but would prefer some free  
software. I'm hoping that hardware won't be necessary.

I did a Google search and as usual was inundated with info.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] Hyundai vs MB

2006-02-26 Thread l02turner
Desert Rat copied: Curt Raymond wrote: It's not just the Toyotas and 
Hondas, - when I owned a MB parts  accessories mail order business I heard 
all kinds of things -- people would

 say, It's an $80,000 automobile 



Not a big deal, but it wasn't Curt that wrote that - it was me -- I don;t 
really care - but Mr. Raymond might not like being tagged with something I 
said. ;-)


You;re absolutley right about the MB FSS - many were wary of it when was 
introduced and some early owners reported FSS telling them the *1st* oil 
change could take place at 14,368 miles (that's from memory) and personally, 
if I had bought a new car I'd change the oil at 5000 or less.  Oil Analysis 
has shown contamination in new vehicles - I believe from the assembly and 
fabrication of the engines.  We've tested MBs, Ferrari's  Porsches and they 
all showed higher than normal levels when tested at 2000-5500 miles.


Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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- Original Message - 
From: Desert Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hyundai vs MB



John,
not to alarm you but there has been some real problems with MB and the
early FSS (started in 98) system and not using Mobil 1. Sludging and
engine damage resulted from these extended oil change intervals.

MB lost a lawsuit and now have extended the warranties and picked up
engine repairs for these models.

If it were my MB, I would be sure it has Mobil 1 in the crankcase and
change it out right now.

Now, what were we saying about Honda and Toyota's?

On 2/26/06, John W. Reames III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Curt Raymond wrote:
 It's not just the Toyotas and Hondas, - when I owned a MB parts 
 accessories mail order business I heard all kinds of things -- people 
 would
 say, It's an $80,000 automobile - I should *never* have to check or 
 add
 oil!!  Unfortunately he was serious.  Didn't bother to ask him about 
 the

 brake fluid of ATF changes - all he wanted was Chrome wheels. ;-\

Speaking of that, I check my oil regularly, and finally had to add a 
quart

to the '99 E300TD, 10.5K mi into my stewardship. (It is a FSS car, bought
from a stealership, and the FSS counter was at 9100 when I bought it. The
counter now sits at 2100, 3.5 mos and 10.5K mi later) I don't know if its
because the 606 is a tighter engine or if it is because it is highway
mileage, but I'm impressed :)
-j.




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Re: [MBZ] Hyundai vs MB

2006-02-26 Thread l02turner

Sunil asked:what's an FSS car, and what's an FSS counter

FSS stands for Flexible Service System and the FSS counter is the time  
mileage counter that keeps tracks of when a service is due.


The most controversial use of FSS was in predicting when an oil change was 
needed - I believe by using sensors in the engine to measure *something* and 
predict when a oil change would be needed.  FSS first appeared in 1995 IIRC 
and raised a lot of eyebrows when it predicted initial oil changes in the 
1-17000 miles range - depending on what the owners were reporting.


At least that's my memory of the discussions we had on a list similar to 
this one 10 years ago.  Marshall was there and probably remembers better 
than I.


HTH's

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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- Original Message - 
From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hyundai vs MB



First, what's an FSS car, and what's an FSS counter?

Second, my parents bought a 1997 Civic brand-new, and now with 115Kmi the
only thing I've paid to replace is an idler pulley ($105).  Everything 
else
has been maintenance items or under warranty.  My parents also bought a 
2000

Accord brand-new and have not had to repair/replace anything (other than
wear items).  They're built down the road from me and my experiences have
been 2 for 2.  I wouldn't hesitate to buy another one, except that they're
underpowered and uninspiring.

On 2/26/06, John W. Reames III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Curt Raymond wrote:
 It's not just the Toyotas and Hondas, - when I owned a MB parts 
 accessories mail order business I heard all kinds of things -- people
would
 say, It's an $80,000 automobile - I should *never* have to check or 
 add

 oil!!  Unfortunately he was serious.  Didn't bother to ask him about
the
 brake fluid of ATF changes - all he wanted was Chrome wheels. ;-\

Speaking of that, I check my oil regularly, and finally had to add a 
quart

to the '99 E300TD, 10.5K mi into my stewardship. (It is a FSS car, bought
from a stealership, and the FSS counter was at 9100 when I bought it. The
counter now sits at 2100, 3.5 mos and 10.5K mi later) I don't know if its
because the 606 is a tighter engine or if it is because it is highway
mileage, but I'm impressed :)
-j.




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[MBZ] Idle noise

2006-02-26 Thread Stuart Saxonberg
Hi, everybody! Long time, no post.

Lately, now that diesel prices have died down a bit, I fixed an electrical
problem, and so on, I've been driving my 300D again, and I've noticed
something making a big rattling noise at idle, from the engine compartment.

That's not really new, of course - what is, is that the noise goes away if I
turn the steering wheel either direction enough to feel the wheels turn.

Any idea what might be making it quiet down when I do that, and how I can
make it be quiet all the time instead of just when I turn the wheels?

Thanks,
Stuart S.
1976 300D w115





Re: [MBZ] TV tuner for Mac

2006-02-26 Thread l02turner
One more thing about that link for TV I provided -make sure you read the 
Terms carefully - they have a strict no refund policy which always makes 
me nervous.  Also, check out the channel list - while they advertise 750 
channels some are in Albania, Argentina, Germany, etc.


Anyway - just a warning -

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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- Original Message - 
From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Mercedes Dicussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 12:15 PM
Subject: [MBZ] TV tuner for Mac



Does anyone have any info on watching TV on a Mac? I know its done
but that's all I know. I'd pay if need be but would prefer some free
software. I'm hoping that hardware won't be necessary.
I did a Google search and as usual was inundated with info.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

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Re: [MBZ] Idle noise

2006-02-26 Thread John Berryman


On Feb 26, 2006, at 12:29 PM, Stuart Saxonberg wrote:


Hi, everybody! Long time, no post.

Lately, now that diesel prices have died down a bit, I fixed an  
electrical

problem, and so on, I've been driving my 300D again, and I've noticed
something making a big rattling noise at idle, from the engine  
compartment.


That's not really new, of course - what is, is that the noise goes  
away if I
turn the steering wheel either direction enough to feel the  
wheels turn.


Any idea what might be making it quiet down when I do that, and how  
I can

make it be quiet all the time instead of just when I turn the wheels?

Thanks,
Stuart S.
1976 300D w115




Could your PS pump be falling off? Loose Belt?

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] TV tuner for Mac

2006-02-26 Thread John Berryman


On Feb 26, 2006, at 12:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


One more thing about that link for TV I provided -make sure you  
read the
Terms carefully - they have a strict no refund policy which  
always makes
me nervous.  Also, check out the channel list - while they  
advertise 750

channels some are in Albania, Argentina, Germany, etc.

Anyway - just a warning -

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)



	I think I might have ended up at that website last night. Only a  
couple of the channels worked. BTW I have not yet received your post  
with the link.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] No starter response

2006-02-26 Thread OK Don
What he just said -- BTDT.

On 2/26/06, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Try it in neutral (if its automatic), your shift linkage or neutral
 safety switch may be out of adjustment. In most cases this is an
 indicator that the starter solenoid is about to completely fail.
 Sometimes when this starts to happen you can jump directly to the
 solenoid from the battery, shortening the circuit and providing more
 current to the solenoid. Start thinking about installing a reman
 Bosch starter because 9 times out of 10 that is the only cure. Unless
 of course you're cheap and want to go for a solenoid only. The down
 side to this is the rest of the starter is just as tired.

 Johnny B.
 I Mac Therefore I am

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Re: [MBZ] Loosing oil

2006-02-26 Thread OK Don
Do the 603 and 602 turbo engines share this potential problem?



 OK everybody PAY ATTENTION to this free and handy advice:

 Unbolt the upper telescoping tube from the turbo and pull it down
 some. Put a HD gear type hose clamp around the bottom of the lower
 tube with the mechanism above a sturdy and easy to reach portion of
 the upper pan casting. Pry up with suitable pry bar, lower the clamp
 and do it again and maybe even again 1 or 2 more times until the tube
 clears the hole. Remove as a unit. You will find that the old seal
 has turned to stone. It will be cracked. Try to not drop too many
 chunks into the pan when you carefully break it out.
 Purchase a turbo oil return seal kit and new gasket for the upper
 tube. After cleaning the old gasket off glue the new one to the upper
 flange. Re-insert the tube(assembled with new seal) into the new
 lubricated lower seal, extend the upper tube and bolt in place. Done.
 Coincidentally, I just found a few photos of this method being
 employed last night. This is a trick that I came up with quite a few
 years ago and shared with many on the old mbz.org mailing lists.



 Johnny B.
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Re: [MBZ] TV tuner for Mac

2006-02-26 Thread Chuck Landenberger

Johnny B,

Here's one that I found  via MacWorld site  $125...  Didn't  
read the fine print...


http://www.macworld.com/news/2003/07/11/televio/

Take care,

Chuck
I Mac Too
Phoenix AZ
 



Re: [MBZ] sagging rear 126

2006-02-26 Thread OK Don
No. take them out and see if there's a difference. Do the same on a
car with good shocks. See if there's any difference.
I don't think there will be.

On 2/26/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 no, I mean shocks.

 Trampas wrote:

  Kaleb,
 
  You mean worn springs don't you?
 
  Trampas

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Re: [MBZ] OT! TV tuner for Mac

2006-02-26 Thread Chuck Landenberger

Hey Johnny,

You might try this site.  It's a Forum Format.  Hope it helps.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=27482

Take care,

Chuck
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Re: [MBZ] sagging rear 126

2006-02-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
actually I looked at it again and its really not sagging that much.  Im 
going to replace the shocks and see what it does then go from there.


OK Don wrote:


No. take them out and see if there's a difference. Do the same on a
car with good shocks. See if there's any difference.
I don't think there will be.

On 2/26/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


no, I mean shocks.

Trampas wrote:



Kaleb,

You mean worn springs don't you?

Trampas



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Re: [MBZ] TV tuner for Mac

2006-02-26 Thread jjayj
even on my PC's, i need a card with a tuner built in...ATI, etc

-- Original message -- 
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 Does anyone have any info on watching TV on a Mac? I know its done 
 but that's all I know. I'd pay if need be but would prefer some free 
 software. I'm hoping that hardware won't be necessary. 
 I did a Google search and as usual was inundated with info. 
 
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 even on my PC's, i need a card with a tuner built in...ATI, etc


I'm seeing tuners both with and without hardware. As always way too  
many choices and opportunities to help lighten my wallet. I'm sure  
I'll find something that will suffice.

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Re: [MBZ] name my car

2006-02-26 Thread Christopher McCann
Sieglinde (zeeg-linda) = soft victory (a real German name). It's  appropriate 
if its a car youve wanted for a while and it is sort of  plane...like my 
personal little understated victory
  
  Chris

Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  1992 300D 2.5T, smoke silver, cream 
beige interior.  286Kmi.  Not mint by
any means, but mechanically perfect.

Name it.   Right now, can't think of anything befitting it, just because
it's not that unique.  For reference, I named my 1974 240D (green on green)
Lucille, and never really named my 1984 300Dt.

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what car do you have?
  
  I bet if you look to the right of your radiator, you will see a small  
upright raditator with a hose in the top and a hose in the bottom -  THAT's 
your oil cooler.
  And if the hoses are leaking, change them IMMEDIATELY.
  
  Chris

M.Afzaal Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I wonder what is the efficacy of 
the oil filter coolers , the type that 
slips on the oil cooler,  seems like a  very small finned heat sink
Any one using it?
mak 


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Re: [MBZ] No starter response

2006-02-26 Thread LT Don
What he said -- sometimes still there.

On 2/26/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What he just said -- BTDT.





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Re: [MBZ] name my car

2006-02-26 Thread Tom Scordato
amends I tried to spell check it but it did not work  I am from the age 
johnny can not read or write  sorry/Tom
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] name my car




On Feb 26, 2006, at 10:48 AM, Tom Scordato wrote:


 I must make immense...



That's amends. You need to go here http://www.kissthisguy.com/

Enjoy!

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

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Re: [MBZ] sagging rear 126

2006-02-26 Thread Marshall Booth

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Will really worn out shocks cause the rear end of a 126 to sag and have 
the wheels slightly tilted toward the center at the top(like when car 
pushed down) or should I look for something else?  Shocks are REALLY bad 
on this car for starters.  Has 160k miles.


That's usually caused by collapsed subframe and differential mounts and 
spring pads. The shocks have a very minor influence (maybe they will 
raise the rear 1/4-1/2).


Marshall
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turbo 237kmi




Re: [MBZ] sagging rear 126

2006-02-26 Thread Marshall Booth

OK Don wrote:

Shocks dampen the re-bound of the springs, they don't hold anything
up. Must be the springs ?


Not actually true. Take a new shock and release the restraint. It will 
expand and it will require considerable force to compress it. New shocks 
exert maybe 30-50 lb of upward force when in the neutral position. 
Unlike most American iron, Mercedes springs ALMOST never fatigue (they 
occasionally break). Talk with the really educated and experienced 
Mercedes pros and they will tell you that they have rarely needed to 
replace a Mercedes spring because of fatigue.


Marshall
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turbo 237kmi




Re: [MBZ] TV tuner for Mac

2006-02-26 Thread Ed Booher
On 2/26/06, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm seeing tuners both with and without hardware. As always way too

John, You *will* need a hardware solution. Period. You must get the TV
data into the Mac in someway, whether it is a USB/Firewire dongle, or
a full PCI card for a PowerMac Tower. You could use a VCR to do the
tuning, and get a RCA/Analog to DV convertor. Those are pretty cheap,
but then the Mac can't do scheduling and such to record when you
aren't home. But you might turn the system off when you leave it
anyway, so I don't know. One way or another the signal must get in the
Mac.

Anything that is software only is either an upgrade (Elgato EyeTV2 is
their newest DVR package for their hardware) or expects you to have
another piece of hardware it is compatible with . also, to further
blow your mind and give you too many choices, check this out:

http://www.slingmedia.com/

The SlingBox ... super cool device. It has the tuner and PVR software
built into itself, then transmit shows across Ethernet to any
networked computer. They do not *yet* have a Mac client, but they were
at the conference in January so they are almost there. You can do
something similar to this with a Linux/BSD/UNIX box with a TV Tuner
card and VLC though . but both of these may be too much
involvement for you if all you want is a few shows here and there to
watch while you are surfing and emailing Banned.

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Re: [MBZ] TV tuner for Mac

2006-02-26 Thread Ed Booher
On 2/26/06, Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 2/26/06, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The SlingBox ... super cool device. It has the tuner and PVR software
 built into itself, then transmit shows across Ethernet to any

On second review - The SlingBox takes live TV and transmits it across
Net  to get recorded programs, need to come from external VCR/DVR
... sorry about confusion.


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Re: [MBZ] TV for Mac

2006-02-26 Thread RDeafBoy
Johnny,

 Get Plextor ConvertxPX-TV402U-NA/MAC.  I did my 
homework...It's more expensive than the Windows version...About 
$202-224 but shop Ebay 
or Buy .com. { I'm going to do my Africa films/pics with mine}


Bob

'83  240D


Re: [MBZ] TV tuner for Mac

2006-02-26 Thread John Berryman


On Feb 26, 2006, at 2:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Hi John,
Don't understand it - I sent the email with the link twice and  
neither have

come thru.  Strange -
Sorry - it was a place called NetspanTV
once more - http://www.netspantv.com/

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)



There it is. Thanks.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] name my car

2006-02-26 Thread John Berryman


On Feb 26, 2006, at 2:38 PM, Tom Scordato wrote:

amends I tried to spell check it but it did not work  I am from the  
age

johnny can not read or write  sorry/Tom



Did you check out the website?

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] Loosing oil

2006-02-26 Thread Marshall Booth

OK Don wrote:

Do the 603 and 602 turbo engines share this potential problem?



If they do, it's VERY rare (unlike the OM617.95 engine that ALL leak 
there usually by 100kmi). I've never had to repair either of mine (with 
just under and over 200kmi on them) and don't recall anyone ever 
discussing a problem or fix.


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Re: [MBZ] TV tuner for Mac

2006-02-26 Thread John Berryman


On Feb 26, 2006, at 3:05 PM, Ed Booher wrote:


John, You *will* need a hardware solution. Period. You must get the TV
data into the Mac in someway



	Maybe Time Warner Cable already has something available. I have a  
17Flat Panel G4 iMac, so anything has to be external. FireWire  
probably the best/fastest choice.


Thanks for the info overload I'll spend some QT with it after the race.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] TV for Mac

2006-02-26 Thread John Berryman


On Feb 26, 2006, at 3:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Johnny,

 Get Plextor ConvertxPX-TV402U-NA/MAC.  I did my
homework...It's more expensive than the Windows  
version...About $202-224 but shop Ebay

or Buy .com. { I'm going to do my Africa films/pics with mine}


Bob




	That's what I'm talking about, you must have spent some time making  
that decision. I will find their website and read-up on it . Thanks.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] Thermostat Replacement (OM602)

2006-02-26 Thread Dave M.
Hi Larry,

I've never worked on a 602, and my 603's are similar, but not
identical to yours. Anyway, here's a couple of possible tips:

1) I can RR this from up top - I pull the rubber intake snorkel
(loosen the one clamp on each end), and that provides lots of room.
There's also access from below if you're having a hard time from up
top.

2) If there is a round electrical widget directly in front of the
housing, remove this first... it makes the job about 10x easier. I'm
not sure if the 602 has this sensor or not (may depend on model year).
On my car this is a 50C switch for the tranny vacuum circuit, with one
wire attached. The seal is re-useable.

3) There's a block drain under the turbo, near the motor mount
bracket, just above the oil pan. Loosen this 19mm fitting to drain the
block.

4) The front sound panel is attached with 4 screws - pretty simple. If
any of the nuts are stripped, you may be able to fix them with
pliers and a vise... I keep a bunch on hand though and replace the bad
ones periodically. They're pretty cheap from Rusty,

:-)

-Dave M.

 --
 Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 19:57:27 -0500
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [MBZ] Thermostat Replacement


 Howdy -
 Rec'd my new T'stat from Rusty yesterday and opened the hood thinking the
 t'stat housing would be on top like most other cars (and my 240D) - to my
 surprise it looks like it's *under* the exhaust manifold!  Doesn't look all
 that hard to get to - 2 nuts and a hose to remove - but the coolant will
 need to be removed and replaced (I know, it probably needs to be replaced
 anyway) but catching it as it flows out might be tricky - and I'll be
 learning how to remove the forward sound panel.  ;-)

 Fun, fun, fun!

 It's looking like I need to schedule a day where I can change the oil,
 t'stat and motor mounts at one time.   May as well wait and do the ATF 
 filter change then too.  Might be a long day --
 ;-)

 Sincerely,
 Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)



Re: [MBZ] what is going on with Mobil 1

2006-02-26 Thread Dave M.
I posted about this exact topic a week or two ago. Short version is,
Mobil is screwing with their formulas AGAIN. The Mobil-1 5W-40 is now
re-named Turbo Diesel Truck formula. But I have yet to see this at
any store, let alone in 5qt jugs at Wal-Mart. There's also a new
10W-40 'Extended Performance' version which looks tempting in place of
the thicker 15W-50 'Extended Performance'. Neither of these is on the
shelf at the 2 Wal-Marts near me.

For Delvac-1, World Impex has it on sale for $25/gallon at the moment,
but who knows what SH will be (I didn't check):

http://www.worldimpex.com/item_detail.html?sku=238657


:-)

-Dave M.

 --
 Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 10:25:17 -0500
 From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [MBZ] what is going on with Mobil 1


 I know -- not another oil thread.  I admit I don't normally read them
 myself, so I probably have missed discussion of this.  So I do
 apologize if this is old news, but... I was at Wal Mart yesterday
 looking for Mobil 1 Truck and SUV  and I noticed that it is now 5W-30
 weight and no longer diesel rated.

 Looking around, they had nothing else they had in stock as far as
 Mobil 1 seemed suitable.  I am overdue for an oil change, so I picked
 up 2 gallons of Chevron Delo -- inexpensive, and good oil (though not
 Mobil 1).

 It's a bit frustrating that they keep reformulating and relabeling
 these oils.  Hopefully they are at least improving them in the
 process.

 So, for reference next time, what is the recommended M1 oil for an MB
 diesel?  Do I need to hunt down some Devlac 1?

 Allan



Re: [MBZ] sagging rear 126

2006-02-26 Thread Gary Hurst
it's almost never springs.  springs is one of the lowest customer
satisfaction items we sell as they almost never fix the problem they are
bought to fix.  I dread every time we sell springs as I know that more
likely than not i will have an unhappy customer on my hands.  doesn't matter
whether they are original or aftermarket.

On 2/26/06, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 OK Don wrote:
  Shocks dampen the re-bound of the springs, they don't hold anything
  up. Must be the springs ?

 Not actually true. Take a new shock and release the restraint. It will
 expand and it will require considerable force to compress it. New shocks
 exert maybe 30-50 lb of upward force when in the neutral position.
 Unlike most American iron, Mercedes springs ALMOST never fatigue (they
 occasionally break). Talk with the really educated and experienced
 Mercedes pros and they will tell you that they have rarely needed to
 replace a Mercedes spring because of fatigue.

 Marshall
 --
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 '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5
 turbo 237kmi

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Re: [MBZ] sagging rear 126

2006-02-26 Thread Kevin
On Sun, Feb 26, 2006 at 08:22:03AM -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 no bodies etc.  Its a 420 so no SLS.  It has always been my thought that 
 if its sagging its usually the subframe mounts etc but wondered if 
 REALLY REALLY worn out shocks could also cause a sag.

Is this regina's car that she thinks is a stellar example of what a
car should be?

K



Re: [MBZ] What is the most addictive thing about a Mercedes Diesel?

2006-02-26 Thread John Berryman


On Feb 26, 2006, at 3:30 PM, ms.300SD wrote:


Hi Friends,

I was sitting here taking a break from the Anterior Pituitary  
hormones, the
gonadotropins, the adrenocorticotropid hormones and the  
Thyrotropins to
check the GMAIL to see if anyone wants to collect that car from  
Mosier.


You know I wasn't joking don't you?



I'd actually be game for driving to upstate NY in it, but hubby  
puts the
kibosh on that one.  What if it had a problem on the way there,  
HUH!?  he
asks.  Oh well.  I would have had a great time cruising from here  
to there,
listening to tunes and talk radio all along the way, while  
appreciating the
contrasting views of our vast country.  Darn.  Getting a free trip  
cross

country in a Benz is my idea of a good time.


	Bring hubby along. He can do the roadside repairs. Let me send a few  
tantalizing photos to your private e-mail. It'll make it harder to  
not do it.




But I got thinking (anything to avoid those *(*(%  hormones)  
about how
addicted to Mercedes diesels some people are.  Why is it that we  
love our
cars so much?  Why do we try to recruit others to our addiction?   
Why do we
(or I, rather) see lonesome, unloved and underappreciated old  
diesels as

individuals needing (and worthy, I might add) of rescue?


	I've been a mechanic for a long, long time and I know of no other  
vehicle more durable than a 123 Series diesel powered Mercedes Benz.  
They're all real good and perhaps the newer cars will go the distance  
as well. For me it is the most logical choice. I do not drive MBs to  
impress anyone other than myself. I'm impressed by what can't be  
seen. I find something good and I share the wealth. Many of my  
friends and relatives drive MBs and most do all their own repairs.




WHAT IS IT about these cars, other than their overall  
wonderfulness?  I

don't know, but when I've had a hard day at school, I come out to the
parking lot, and get in my car, and a wonderful feeling washes away  
the
brain strain of the class and studies, at least temporarily, as I  
motor
towards my home.  As I am driving home, I often get the feeling,  
gee, why
not cruise up to Mount Vernon for some locally grown organic  
produce, or I
think I need to pick up a roast at this butcher shop in Silvana.   
The theme
is usually I need to drive (some far away place) to pick up some  
(item that

would be nice, but is not totally required today).


	I'll drive anywhere for anything. I buy old iMacs in Boston just so  
I can drive there to pick them up. Driving soothes me and clears my  
head. I'd almost prefer to be driving than anything else.




Am I crazy?


Definitely


(Doctors on the list, please do not feel compelled to diagnose;
I suspect I am crazy for these cars oh well.)

wistfully wishing I was driving instead of studying my day away  
today..


So when should I expect you to be rolling up?

The California deal is still open too.



Lynn in WA


Johnny B.
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