[MBZ] Should I pull the trigger?
Was offered an 85 126 300sd in need of a rear window swap, AC fix, and some brake work (it eats master cylinders?). It's at a very lucrative sub-Kaleb price, and has rust at the front jack points, 250K on the engine, 300K-ish on the chassis. Engine is strong, swapped in from an 84 123 iirc. I could make room in my collection by removing a much disused Plymouth Horizon, but I'm not sure... Should I pull the trigger? Walt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
I thought about that, but we get a lot of rain and a bit of cold [I know, Floridians are wimps in cold]. When I had my company car broken into [passenger window smashed] in Miami one January day several years ago, the home office in Indiana was ready to send a mobile repair to the spot so I didn't have to drive home [50 miles] in the January cold. Then I told them it was in the high 60's and I could manage. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 9:37 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ... Just drive with the windows down and don't worry about it. --R On 3/13/2011 9:33 PM, Bill Ringgold wrote: ... which Manfred tells me is due to a 3/4 -1' hole in the muffler of my 1981 300SD. He is helping me with the car, and a muffler [without the holes] is needed. Manfred can weld it in place, so just 5-6 of pipe is needed on the muffler. Anyone got one at a reasonable price that will fit on the 300SD? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
I hope Manfred is catching all these good suggestions. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 10:30 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ... Or fix the hole in the floor that is letting the fumes in --- On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 8:37 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Just drive with the windows down and don't worry about it. --R On 3/13/2011 9:33 PM, Bill Ringgold wrote: ... which Manfred tells me is due to a 3/4 -1' hole in the muffler of my 1981 300SD. He is helping me with the car, and a muffler [without the holes] is needed. Manfred can weld it in place, so just 5-6 of pipe is needed on the muffler. Anyone got one at a reasonable price that will fit on the 300SD? -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
I'll suggest that to him. We are working out a trade whereby he does a lot of time consuming small stuff that I can't do and can't afford to pay $70/hour to have repaired, and when I get a new car this year he will adopt my baby into his home. I'm not sure either of our wives would actually appreciate learning what a turbine sounds like, though I could end up with a new car sooner than expected. I'm looking seriously at a Prius, which would save me about $1,300/year in fuel costs. My cousin just hit 100K on his with no problems, and loves it. @50 mpg at $3.30/gal beats 22 mpg at $3.85/gal by a long shot. I'll be down to one MB in the family then and no diesel, but it seems that a 30 YO car is not the best choice for me, though it is still a wonderful road machine with a strong engine and good tranny and doesn't look too bad. Maybe if my cardiac stem cell infusion perks my heart up a bit I can think about another diesel someday. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 10:36 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ... OK Don wrote: Or fix the hole in the floor that is letting the fumes in --- Instead of another rusty old muffler with 5-6 of pipe on it, why don't you weld in 5-6' of brand new pipe? Show the people behind you what a turbine sounds like. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
If you want high mileage in a small car, why spend so much on the car? I think Hyundai offers a model for about $7k that gets over 40 mpg; those economics make more sense to me. Max Diesel, the new Premium From: Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 7:41:24 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ... I'll suggest that to him. We are working out a trade whereby he does a lot of time consuming small stuff that I can't do and can't afford to pay $70/hour to have repaired, and when I get a new car this year he will adopt my baby into his home. I'm not sure either of our wives would actually appreciate learning what a turbine sounds like, though I could end up with a new car sooner than expected. I'm looking seriously at a Prius, which would save me about $1,300/year in fuel costs. My cousin just hit 100K on his with no problems, and loves it. @50 mpg at $3.30/gal beats 22 mpg at $3.85/gal by a long shot. I'll be down to one MB in the family then and no diesel, but it seems that a 30 YO car is not the best choice for me, though it is still a wonderful road machine with a strong engine and good tranny and doesn't look too bad. Maybe if my cardiac stem cell infusion perks my heart up a bit I can think about another diesel someday. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 10:36 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ... OK Don wrote: Or fix the hole in the floor that is letting the fumes in --- Instead of another rusty old muffler with 5-6 of pipe on it, why don't you weld in 5-6' of brand new pipe? Show the people behind you what a turbine sounds like. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should I pull the trigger?
Hmmm, Plymouth vs. Benz, Plymouth vs. Benz Benz! Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles '95 E300 280k miles '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 2:28:55 AM Subject: [MBZ] Should I pull the trigger? Was offered an 85 126 300sd in need of a rear window swap, AC fix, and some brake work (it eats master cylinders?). It's at a very lucrative sub-Kaleb price, and has rust at the front jack points, 250K on the engine, 300K-ish on the chassis. Engine is strong, swapped in from an 84 123 iirc. I could make room in my collection by removing a much disused Plymouth Horizon, but I'm not sure... Should I pull the trigger? Walt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
I'm thinking a 2008 hybrid Prius with the comforts this old body wants will run about $18K. I have wondered about some of the new Hyundai models, but do not want a stripped down model, even though we have the S320 for road trips. Worth looking at, but and extra 10 mpg is not a small thing either, and these days I do mostly around town errands [50+ mpg with the Prius]. Driving @12K miles a year I don't suppose a small mpg difference will matter too much. I'm looking seriously at the Prius, but could be persuaded to look elsewhere. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max Dillon Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 7:57 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ... If you want high mileage in a small car, why spend so much on the car? I think Hyundai offers a model for about $7k that gets over 40 mpg; those economics make more sense to me. Max Diesel, the new Premium From: Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 7:41:24 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ... I'll suggest that to him. We are working out a trade whereby he does a lot of time consuming small stuff that I can't do and can't afford to pay $70/hour to have repaired, and when I get a new car this year he will adopt my baby into his home. I'm not sure either of our wives would actually appreciate learning what a turbine sounds like, though I could end up with a new car sooner than expected. I'm looking seriously at a Prius, which would save me about $1,300/year in fuel costs. My cousin just hit 100K on his with no problems, and loves it. @50 mpg at $3.30/gal beats 22 mpg at $3.85/gal by a long shot. I'll be down to one MB in the family then and no diesel, but it seems that a 30 YO car is not the best choice for me, though it is still a wonderful road machine with a strong engine and good tranny and doesn't look too bad. Maybe if my cardiac stem cell infusion perks my heart up a bit I can think about another diesel someday. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 10:36 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ... OK Don wrote: Or fix the hole in the floor that is letting the fumes in --- Instead of another rusty old muffler with 5-6 of pipe on it, why don't you weld in 5-6' of brand new pipe? Show the people behind you what a turbine sounds like. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
Oh god not a Prius! How about a Jetta diesel? Around 20K new, gives around 45 mpg and is a real car, not some cheesoid entomomorphic wannabe spaceship. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 14, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.net wrote: I'm thinking a 2008 hybrid Prius with the comforts this old body wants will run about $18K. I have wondered about some of the new Hyundai models, but do not want a stripped down model, even though we have the S320 for road trips. Worth looking at, but and extra 10 mpg is not a small thing either, and these days I do mostly around town errands [50+ mpg with the Prius]. Driving @12K miles a year I don't suppose a small mpg difference will matter too much. I'm looking seriously at the Prius, but could be persuaded to look elsewhere. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max Dillon Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 7:57 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ... If you want high mileage in a small car, why spend so much on the car? I think Hyundai offers a model for about $7k that gets over 40 mpg; those economics make more sense to me. Max Diesel, the new Premium From: Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 7:41:24 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ... I'll suggest that to him. We are working out a trade whereby he does a lot of time consuming small stuff that I can't do and can't afford to pay $70/hour to have repaired, and when I get a new car this year he will adopt my baby into his home. I'm not sure either of our wives would actually appreciate learning what a turbine sounds like, though I could end up with a new car sooner than expected. I'm looking seriously at a Prius, which would save me about $1,300/year in fuel costs. My cousin just hit 100K on his with no problems, and loves it. @50 mpg at $3.30/gal beats 22 mpg at $3.85/gal by a long shot. I'll be down to one MB in the family then and no diesel, but it seems that a 30 YO car is not the best choice for me, though it is still a wonderful road machine with a strong engine and good tranny and doesn't look too bad. Maybe if my cardiac stem cell infusion perks my heart up a bit I can think about another diesel someday. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 10:36 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ... OK Don wrote: Or fix the hole in the floor that is letting the fumes in --- Instead of another rusty old muffler with 5-6 of pipe on it, why don't you weld in 5-6' of brand new pipe? Show the people behind you what a turbine sounds like. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
Bill Ringgold wrote: I'm thinking a 2008 hybrid Prius with the comforts this old body wants will run about $18K. I have wondered about some of the new Hyundai models, but do not want a stripped down model, even though we have the S320 for road trips. Worth looking at, but and extra 10 mpg is not a small thing either, and these days I do mostly around town errands [50+ mpg with the Prius]. Driving @12K miles a year I don't suppose a small mpg difference will matter too much. I'm looking seriously at the Prius, but could be persuaded to look elsewhere. A good economy hybrid might get 45hwy/50 city, now that the little Honda Insight is long gone. A good economy car without the battery might get 30 city and 40 hwy, so I would only pay more for the Hybrid if I were planning on doing a lot of local driving. For my driving, I'd take a good look at a Chevy Cruze before buying a Prius. (having seriously shopped neither, I have no idea which I'd buy) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
If I do end up with a Prius I want to paint that name on the side of it ... cheesoid entomomorphic wannabe spaceship. I'll check the Jetta diesel. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dimitri Seretakis Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 9:32 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ... Oh god not a Prius! How about a Jetta diesel? Around 20K new, gives around 45 mpg and is a real car, not some cheesoid entomomorphic wannabe spaceship. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 14, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.net wrote: I'm thinking a 2008 hybrid Prius with the comforts this old body wants will run about $18K. I have wondered about some of the new Hyundai models, but do not want a stripped down model, even though we have the S320 for road trips. Worth looking at, but and extra 10 mpg is not a small thing either, and these days I do mostly around town errands [50+ mpg with the Prius]. Driving @12K miles a year I don't suppose a small mpg difference will matter too much. I'm looking seriously at the Prius, but could be persuaded to look elsewhere. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max Dillon Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 7:57 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ... If you want high mileage in a small car, why spend so much on the car? I think Hyundai offers a model for about $7k that gets over 40 mpg; those economics make more sense to me. Max Diesel, the new Premium From: Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 7:41:24 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ... I'll suggest that to him. We are working out a trade whereby he does a lot of time consuming small stuff that I can't do and can't afford to pay $70/hour to have repaired, and when I get a new car this year he will adopt my baby into his home. I'm not sure either of our wives would actually appreciate learning what a turbine sounds like, though I could end up with a new car sooner than expected. I'm looking seriously at a Prius, which would save me about $1,300/year in fuel costs. My cousin just hit 100K on his with no problems, and loves it. @50 mpg at $3.30/gal beats 22 mpg at $3.85/gal by a long shot. I'll be down to one MB in the family then and no diesel, but it seems that a 30 YO car is not the best choice for me, though it is still a wonderful road machine with a strong engine and good tranny and doesn't look too bad. Maybe if my cardiac stem cell infusion perks my heart up a bit I can think about another diesel someday. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 10:36 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ... OK Don wrote: Or fix the hole in the floor that is letting the fumes in --- Instead of another rusty old muffler with 5-6 of pipe on it, why don't you weld in 5-6' of brand new pipe? Show the people behind you what a turbine sounds like. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Safety First
Waterford man died doing what he loved most Followup front page article in today's paper. Changing the oil in his BMW. Jack failure. So sad. Tom SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and all those BMWs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
Oh god not a Prius! How about a Jetta diesel? Around 20K new, gives around 45 mpg and is a real car, not some cheesoid entomomorphic wannabe spaceship. Them smugmobiles is ugly! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 6:47 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: A good economy car without the battery might get 30 city and 40 hwy, so I would only pay more for the Hybrid if I were planning on doing a lot of local driving. For my driving, I'd take a good look at a Chevy Cruze before buying a Prius. IMHO the best deal in an economy car right now would be a two- or three-year-old Honda Fit, which with a 5-speed is pretty close to those mileage numbers. Great visibility, fun to drive, pretty smooth ride for such a small car, terrific use of interior space to maximize cargo capacity. The new five-door Ford Fiesta looks to have similar assets, but I'd wait a few years until the bugs are worked out. (Speaking of bugs, both are a bit entomomorphic, as Dimitri has it, if that bothers you---but not as much so as a Prius.) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
B Wrong! The base assumption here is that carbon monoxide (CO) from the exhaust is making you sleepy. The car is a 300SD. That means it is a Diesel. Diesel exhaust will not kill you or your canary. Diesel exhaust has negligible CO content. Diesel exhaust WILL NOT make you sleepy. Lack of CO is one of the inherent advantages of Diesel engines. While a hole in the muffler might make annoying noise, it won't hurt you or your family. x Check your assumptions Check your sources Check your ammunition ... which Manfred tells me is due to a 3/4 -1' hole in the muffler of my 1981 300SD. He is helping me with the car, and a muffler [without the holes] is needed. Manfred can weld it in place, so just 5-6 of pipe is needed on the muffler. Anyone got one at a reasonable price that will fit on the 300SD? Update on the computer: matching 2GB chips from Crucial seem to help a bit; any additional memory tests as bad. I still have some delay problems, and turning off some of the functions of the dictation program has also helped. More user friendly at this point, but I think a newer computer will be needed at least by next year. Bill R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
I notice no one is suggesting a Smart. I have pretty well ruled that one out because on occasion I haul three grandkids around, and I don't think that a Smart would be able to do that. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 10:48 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ... On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 6:47 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: A good economy car without the battery might get 30 city and 40 hwy, so I would only pay more for the Hybrid if I were planning on doing a lot of local driving. For my driving, I'd take a good look at a Chevy Cruze before buying a Prius. IMHO the best deal in an economy car right now would be a two- or three-year-old Honda Fit, which with a 5-speed is pretty close to those mileage numbers. Great visibility, fun to drive, pretty smooth ride for such a small car, terrific use of interior space to maximize cargo capacity. The new five-door Ford Fiesta looks to have similar assets, but I'd wait a few years until the bugs are worked out. (Speaking of bugs, both are a bit entomomorphic, as Dimitri has it, if that bothers you---but not as much so as a Prius.) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
Good to know. Thanks. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 11:27 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ... B Wrong! The base assumption here is that carbon monoxide (CO) from the exhaust is making you sleepy. The car is a 300SD. That means it is a Diesel. Diesel exhaust will not kill you or your canary. Diesel exhaust has negligible CO content. Diesel exhaust WILL NOT make you sleepy. Lack of CO is one of the inherent advantages of Diesel engines. While a hole in the muffler might make annoying noise, it won't hurt you or your family. x Check your assumptions Check your sources Check your ammunition ... which Manfred tells me is due to a 3/4 -1' hole in the muffler of my 1981 300SD. He is helping me with the car, and a muffler [without the holes] is needed. Manfred can weld it in place, so just 5-6 of pipe is needed on the muffler. Anyone got one at a reasonable price that will fit on the 300SD? Update on the computer: matching 2GB chips from Crucial seem to help a bit; any additional memory tests as bad. I still have some delay problems, and turning off some of the functions of the dictation program has also helped. More user friendly at this point, but I think a newer computer will be needed at least by next year. Bill R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] FW: WATERFORD MAN KILLED WHEN CAR FALLS ON HIM (The Day, Sat, 12 Mar 2011, Page C2)
Especially with Mercedes. The darned things are heavy. Randy On 12/03/2011 8:40 AM, toms cat1 wrote: I hate to be that guy, but here it happened again. Item from today's local paper. Stay safe, fellas. Redundant safety systems whenever you are under a car. Tom Waterford — A 21-year-old man was killed Friday afternoon after the car he was working on in a home garage fell on top of him, according to police and emergency responders. The injured person was extricated from under the car by firefighters from the... Sent from my iPad http://theday.newspaperdirect.com/epaper/showlink.aspx?bookmarkid=JV0RQIJQUHW1issue=199520110312001001article=e295a1c6-9afc-44bc-bee9-d053389c46ce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] FW: WATERFORD MAN KILLED WHEN CAR FALLS ON HIM (The Day, Sat, 12 Mar 2011, Page C2)
Me too. And then I put some chunks of big square timber under it too just in case, so that I have a bit of wiggle room if it all goes bad. Randy On 13/03/2011 7:04 AM, Max Dillon wrote: I had a car fall once, I was not under it; after that scare I do the following. Once I think I've got the car safely on the jackstands, I push and pull on the car hard to make sure it can't shift and fall. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Walt Zarnoch Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 11:09 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] FW: WATERFORD MAN KILLED WHEN CAR FALLS ON HIM (The Day, Sat, 12 Mar 2011, Page C2) Tis why I use a 2 post lift with safety stands now. I get queasy even going under the cars at the yards that are up on 4 stands under the frame... Walt On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: That's awful. That's why I'm so hesitant to get under a jacked up car even when supported by jack stands. Sent from dmy iPhone On Mar 12, 2011, at 9:40 AM, toms cat1tomsc...@hotmail.com wrote: I hate to be that guy, but here it happened again. Item from today's local paper. Stay safe, fellas. Redundant safety systems whenever you are under a car. Tom Waterford — A 21-year-old man was killed Friday afternoon after the car he was working on in a home garage fell on top of him, according to police and emergency responders. The injured person was extricated from under the car by firefighters from the... Sent from my iPad http://theday.newspaperdirect.com/epaper/showlink.aspx?bookmarkid=JV0RQIJQUH W1issue=199520110312001001article=e295a1c6-9afc-44bc-bee9-d053389c 46ce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
If I were looking for true mileage, I'd get a 1960 Ford Falcon with the 144 cu in straight 6. My Dad's got 30-32 mpg with 6 people in the car. Or you could get a 4 cyc Renault Daphne. My brother in law had a 1960 that got 40 mpg consistently. Yes, I know these are old cars, but they point out how little we've improved in mpg over the past 50 years. Could big oil and big Detroit have something to do with that? Keep feeling sleepy...maybe we'll get synthetic diesel and a European Ford diesel that gets 65 mpg here in the states. But I'm not holding my breath. Best Wishes, Roger Hale Monroe, Ga. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
Well, not totally true. Diesel exhaust might kill you but it will take some time. Those particles are not so good for the lungs over the long haul. Randy B Wrong! The base assumption here is that carbon monoxide (CO) from the exhaust is making you sleepy. The car is a 300SD. That means it is a Diesel. Diesel exhaust will not kill you or your canary. Diesel exhaust has negligible CO content. Diesel exhaust WILL NOT make you sleepy. Lack of CO is one of the inherent advantages of Diesel engines. While a hole in the muffler might make annoying noise, it won't hurt you or your family. x Check your assumptions Check your sources Check your ammunition ... which Manfred tells me is due to a 3/4 -1' hole in the muffler of my 1981 300SD. He is helping me with the car, and a muffler [without the holes] is needed. Manfred can weld it in place, so just 5-6 of pipe is needed on the muffler. Anyone got one at a reasonable price that will fit on the 300SD? Update on the computer: matching 2GB chips from Crucial seem to help a bit; any additional memory tests as bad. I still have some delay problems, and turning off some of the functions of the dictation program has also helped. More user friendly at this point, but I think a newer computer will be needed at least by next year. Bill R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
Or, if you want to be bit classier, get one of the early Mustangs with the small inline 6 and a manual transmission. I had a 65 with the 170 cid engine. No hot rod but really good mileage on it too. Wish I still had it (doesn't everyone say that?). Randy On 14/03/2011 11:26 AM, roger...@comcast.net wrote: If I were looking for true mileage, I'd get a 1960 Ford Falcon with the 144 cu in straight 6. My Dad's got 30-32 mpg with 6 people in the car. Or you could get a 4 cyc Renault Daphne. My brother in law had a 1960 that got 40 mpg consistently. Yes, I know these are old cars, but they point out how little we've improved in mpg over the past 50 years. Could big oil and big Detroit have something to do with that? Keep feeling sleepy...maybe we'll get synthetic diesel and a European Ford diesel that gets 65 mpg here in the states. But I'm not holding my breath. Best Wishes, Roger Hale Monroe, Ga. ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] fallout map?
Dan wrote: Just packed my Civil Defense Geiger counters in preparation for my move. I wonder if their value has suddenly gone up, Old tech, no doubt? Maybe historical and useful value, but nobody wants an old geiger counter... or do they? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] GM vs Mopar diesel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUQ2rtm7axQfeature=fvsr mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
On 14/03/2011 9:48 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 6:47 AM, Mitch Haleym...@voyager.net wrote: A good economy car without the battery might get 30 city and 40 hwy, so I would only pay more for the Hybrid if I were planning on doing a lot of local driving. For my driving, I'd take a good look at a Chevy Cruze before buying a Prius. IMHO the best deal in an economy car right now would be a two- or three-year-old Honda Fit, which with a 5-speed is pretty close to those mileage numbers. Great visibility, fun to drive, pretty smooth ride for such a small car, terrific use of interior space to maximize cargo capacity. The new five-door Ford Fiesta looks to have similar assets, but I'd wait a few years until the bugs are worked out. (Speaking of bugs, both are a bit entomomorphic, as Dimitri has it, if that bothers you---but not as much so as a Prius.) Alex ___ When it comes right down to it, it will be almost impossible to do better than a late model Honda Civic for all round use. Randy who does not have one but thinks about it for commuter car etc. (Mother has one, sister has one, niece and nephew each have them, wife has 4 cylinder Accord.) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Japan before vs after
Interesting. Move the bar at the middle of each photo to see the direct compare - before/after. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/03/13/world/asia/satellite-photos-japan-before-and-after-tsunami.html mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
Roger wrote: Yes, I know these are old cars, but they point out how little we've improved in mpg over the past 50 years. You are getting too cynical. I am too cynical also. Where is tech getting us - especially in transportation? Bluetooth, CD changers, computers on wheels, computer ABS, computer-you-name-it, comfort as we drive - but nothing about getting there on fewer gallons of fuel. I don't need that junque in a car - the car is a * vehicle to get me between point A and point B - not a lazyboy on wheels. Okay, now for my always unchallenged final line This kulture is going backwards in wy too many ways. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] FW: WATERFORD MAN KILLED WHEN CAR FALLS ON HIM (The Day, Sat, 12 Mar 2011, Page C2)
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 9:17 AM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote: And then I put some chunks of big square timber under it too just in case, so that I have a bit of wiggle room if it all goes bad. I've cultivated the habit, every time I jack up a car and take a wheel off to do brake work or whatever, of sliding/rolling it under the frame rail on that side just behind the jackstand. It's convenient, and a wheel is of course plenty strong to hold up the car if it falls. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] fo-matic
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: How does torque get to the other set of wheels without a transfer case? Or perhaps its a transfer case by a different name? It may be splitting hairs, but I'd agree with Roger that the whatchamacallit on the back of the transmission on the 4Matic cars (not the trucks) doesn't count as a transfer case, since it contains no reduction gears. It's an open differential between the front and rear driveshafts, or front and rear halves of what is in effect the same driveshaft under most driving conditions (since both turn at the same speed absent wheel slip) if you prefer. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] FW: WATERFORD MAN KILLED WHEN CAR FALLS ON HIM (The Day, Sat, 12 Mar 2011, Page C2)
Yes, another good habit to develop. Especially when one uses $25 HF floor jacks... -Max (HF junkee) From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 12:54:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] FW: WATERFORD MAN KILLED WHEN CAR FALLS ON HIM (The Day, Sat, 12 Mar 2011, Page C2) On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 9:17 AM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote: And then I put some chunks of big square timber under it too just in case, so that I have a bit of wiggle room if it all goes bad. I've cultivated the habit, every time I jack up a car and take a wheel off to do brake work or whatever, of sliding/rolling it under the frame rail on that side just behind the jackstand. It's convenient, and a wheel is of course plenty strong to hold up the car if it falls. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Japanukes
This site appears to be from some pro-nukers, but it has some very clear and concise explanations of what is going on with the Japanukes. http://bravenewclimate.com/ --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
I had a 1970 Alfa GTV 5 speed that got 45 mpg at 75 mph [about the slowest you could engage 5th gear]. Too bad it cost more to keep it on the road than payments on the new car I replace it with. Much of the drive for this comes from my wife who is tired of me having a 30 YO car I can't work on any more, and she is right. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of roger...@comcast.net Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 12:27 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ... If I were looking for true mileage, I'd get a 1960 Ford Falcon with the 144 cu in straight 6. My Dad's got 30-32 mpg with 6 people in the car. Or you could get a 4 cyc Renault Daphne. My brother in law had a 1960 that got 40 mpg consistently. Yes, I know these are old cars, but they point out how little we've improved in mpg over the past 50 years. Could big oil and big Detroit have something to do with that? Keep feeling sleepy...maybe we'll get synthetic diesel and a European Ford diesel that gets 65 mpg here in the states. But I'm not holding my breath. Best Wishes, Roger Hale Monroe, Ga. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
Bill Ringgold wrote: I notice no one is suggesting a Smart. I have pretty well ruled that one out because on occasion I haul three grandkids around, and I don't think that a Smart would be able to do that. The Smart, and the New Mini, along with gas versions of the New Beetle, use too much fuel for their size. When they came out, I took one look at the EPA ratings and then forgot about them. Same for the Dodge Neon replacement, I think it's the Caliber. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
I think anything that displaces O2 in the air will cause light headedness... As far as economical, think how much it will be to replace that battery pack in the prius when it goes flat... I think a TDI Jetta would be the bees knees, torquey, fun, cheap enough. Walt On Mar 14, 2011 1:44 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Bill Ringgold wrote: I notice no one is suggesting a Smart. I have pretty well ruled that one out because on occasion I haul three grandkids around, and I don't think that a Smart would be able to do that. The Smart, and the New Mini, along with gas versions of the New Beetle, use too much fuel for their size. When they came out, I took one look at the EPA ratings and then forgot about them. Same for the Dodge Neon replacement, I think it's the Caliber. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: I think a TDI Jetta would be the bees knees, torquey, fun, cheap enough. My ex's 2000 New Beetle TDI consistently got 40 mpg highway, 35 mpg about 50-50 city/highway. That was with a slushbox, so I imagine it would have gotten 45+ highway with a stick. OTOH the current BMW 335d gets 35 mpg highway according to the EPA, and has 400 ft-lb of torque. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
Remember how much the TAX will be, and your payments and increased insurance and then tell me how much better the Prius is... Chevy Malibu and Ford Fusion are probably some of the best deals out there for boring day to day transportation. -Curt Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 07:41:24 -0400 From: Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ... Message-ID: 007b01cbe23c$c0bb8120$42328360$@net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'll suggest that to him. We are working out a trade whereby he does a lot of time consuming small stuff that I can't do and can't afford to pay $70/hour to have repaired, and when I get a new car this year he will adopt my baby into his home. I'm not sure either of our wives would actually appreciate learning what a turbine sounds like, though I could end up with a new car sooner than expected. I'm looking seriously at a Prius, which would save me about $1,300/year in fuel costs. My cousin just hit 100K on his with no problems, and loves it. @50 mpg at $3.30/gal beats 22 mpg at $3.85/gal by a long shot. I'll be down to one MB in the family then and no diesel, but it seems that a 30 YO car is not the best choice for me, though it is still a wonderful road machine with a strong engine and good tranny and doesn't look too bad. Maybe if my cardiac stem cell infusion perks my heart up a bit I can think about another diesel someday. Bill R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Remember how much the TAX will be, and your payments and increased insurance and then tell me how much better the Prius is... Chevy Malibu and Ford Fusion are probably some of the best deals out there for boring day to day transportation. Seconded on the Fusion---very comfortable, good mpg, and tops in Consumer Reports' reliability rankings, if you believe them. Dealers around here are still selling leftover 2010s at big discounts. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
The battery pack is rated [by Toyota] for 180,000 miles. My only family experience is my cousin's Prius, which hit 100K a few months ago, and absolutely no problems as yet. I did drive up to 60K miles a year when I was working, but being retired now it is down to between 10K and 12K annually. Should that be accurate it would give me 15 years prior to needing that, and a replacement from Toyota is currently about $3K, and they say they have only had to replace due to accidents, not NiMH battery failure. Not sure when they went to NiMH from NiCad. [if I got those designations correct]. I'll be checking out the Jetta, so I'm not firmly settled as yet. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Walt Zarnoch Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 2:00 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ... I think anything that displaces O2 in the air will cause light headedness... As far as economical, think how much it will be to replace that battery pack in the prius when it goes flat... I think a TDI Jetta would be the bees knees, torquey, fun, cheap enough. Walt On Mar 14, 2011 1:44 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Bill Ringgold wrote: I notice no one is suggesting a Smart. I have pretty well ruled that one out because on occasion I haul three grandkids around, and I don't think that a Smart would be able to do that. The Smart, and the New Mini, along with gas versions of the New Beetle, use too much fuel for their size. When they came out, I took one look at the EPA ratings and then forgot about them. Same for the Dodge Neon replacement, I think it's the Caliber. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
Also remember that I am used to a 30 YO diesel. It does have a lot of torque, but is also a tank. I think the performance of the Prius would be adequate for me - I never drive over 100 MPH anyway [you are thinking of my darling wife, who has a lead foot and a big-ass long wheelbase road car]. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 2:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ... On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: I think a TDI Jetta would be the bees knees, torquey, fun, cheap enough. My ex's 2000 New Beetle TDI consistently got 40 mpg highway, 35 mpg about 50-50 city/highway. That was with a slushbox, so I imagine it would have gotten 45+ highway with a stick. OTOH the current BMW 335d gets 35 mpg highway according to the EPA, and has 400 ft-lb of torque. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
I think my biggest fight over choosing an American car comes from having grown up in the 1960's and 70's. One of the very few new cars I have had was a 1973 Caprice Classic. I noticed that the trim around one side of the rear window was 3 too short to make it all the way down; it soon had a rust spot on top of the windshield; it got horrible mileage. The battery died three days after I bought it. My new company Focus was much better and I enjoyed driving it. I even got 54 trouble free miles before the first breakdown. 5 recalls for various issues. I switched back to MB's and love them - and one saved my life in a head-on with a drunk driver [she died on impact]. Hard to get over the mindset that American made cars are junk - though I understand they have improved quite a bit over the past decade. I will not be buying a new car [ever again unless one of my monthly lottery tickets pays off really well] so the question would be which of the 2007-8-9 models is the best buy for me. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 2:42 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ... On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Remember how much the TAX will be, and your payments and increased insurance and then tell me how much better the Prius is... Chevy Malibu and Ford Fusion are probably some of the best deals out there for boring day to day transportation. Seconded on the Fusion---very comfortable, good mpg, and tops in Consumer Reports' reliability rankings, if you believe them. Dealers around here are still selling leftover 2010s at big discounts. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: $700 MERCEDES 300 Turbo Diesel 1985 - $700 (Woodstock NY)
300TD. (Wagon) Running no less. Not mine Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred Original Message Subject:$700 MERCEDES 300 Turbo Diesel 1985 - $700 (Woodstock NY) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 13:03:10 -0700 (PDT) From: fred.s...@yahoo.com To: fred.s...@verizon.net fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Visit the posting at http://catskills.craigslist.org/cto/2261999381.html to contact the person who posted this. $700 MERCEDES 300 Turbo Diesel 1985 Date: 2011-03-12, 4:06PM This car is in working condithion. Interior is in good condition. 200k mi. Was running, has been parked for one year. Great car for restoration or parts. These cars are built like tanks and can run forever also convertible to bio diesel. working manual sunroof, windows work, lights all intact and working, roofrack. Needs ignition housing and switch also needs indicator housing and switch plus switch for one window and probably a new batt. spare tire included. $ 700 or best offer. the money is for a good cause. * Location: Woodstock NY * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://catskills.craigslist.org/cto/2261999381.html /this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: /http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/U2FsdGVkX18xODgyODE4ONhj0CIJ1yStVZXKgPJodXoGRtFlxmfr-n08Zw4RqPtXui4dwbnUsIZu8h50cUwFDw ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
Unless the waranty transfers, you might have issues. That goes for any new-ish car, sadly it's getting more expensive and tough to DIY... And it's hard to buy US when all the true inovation is overseas. Dodge's big inovation this year was putting the entire climate, radio, etc control panel on a minivan steering wheel... Walt On Mar 14, 2011 3:31 PM, Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.net wrote: I think my biggest fight over choosing an American car comes from having grown up in the 1960's and 70's. One of the very few new cars I have had was a 1973 Caprice Classic. I noticed that the trim around one side of the rear window was 3 too short to make it all the way down; it soon had a rust spot on top of the windshield; it got horrible mileage. The battery died three days after I bought it. My new company Focus was much better and I enjoyed driving it. I even got 54 trouble free miles before the first breakdown. 5 recalls for various issues. I switched back to MB's and love them - and one saved my life in a head-on with a drunk driver [she died on impact]. Hard to get over the mindset that American made cars are junk - though I understand they have improved quite a bit over the past decade. I will not be buying a new car [ever again unless one of my monthly lottery tickets pays off really well] so the question would be which of the 2007-8-9 models is the best buy for me. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 2:42 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ... On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Remember how much the TAX will be, and your payments and increased insurance and then tell me how much better the Prius is... Chevy Malibu and Ford Fusion are probably some of the best deals out there for boring day to day transportation. Seconded on the Fusion---very comfortable, good mpg, and tops in Consumer Reports' reliability rankings, if you believe them. Dealers around here are still selling leftover 2010s at big discounts. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Honda Seizure/oops Fit
..IMHO the best deal in an economy car right now would be a two- or three-year-old Honda Fit, which with a 5-speed is pretty close to those mileage numbers. Great visibility, fun to drive, pretty smooth ride for such a small car, terrific use of interior space to maximize cargo capacity... There is more to life than fuel economy... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaBuy1T69kQNR=1 RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Smart? Oh nooooo....
...I notice no one is suggesting a Smart. I have pretty well ruled that one out because on occasion I haul three grandkids around, and I don't think that a Smart would be able to do that... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPdEWLnAQr0playnext=1; list=PL21FAC048AF4C75C2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=he6TL15pJtwfeature=related RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: $700 MERCEDES 300 Turbo Diesel 1985 - $700 (Woodstock NY)
Great - thanks. Ya think I can drive it back to D.C. absent those few parts? I never heard of either of these housings. *Needs ignition housing and switch also needs indicator housing and switch plus switch for one window and probably a new batt.* On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Fred Moir fred.s...@verizon.net wrote: 300TD. (Wagon) Running no less. Not mine Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred Original Message Subject:$700 MERCEDES 300 Turbo Diesel 1985 - $700 (Woodstock NY) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 13:03:10 -0700 (PDT) From: fred.s...@yahoo.com To: fred.s...@verizon.net fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Visit the posting at http://catskills.craigslist.org/cto/2261999381.htmlto contact the person who posted this. $700 MERCEDES 300 Turbo Diesel 1985 Date: 2011-03-12, 4:06PM This car is in working condithion. Interior is in good condition. 200k mi. Was running, has been parked for one year. Great car for restoration or parts. These cars are built like tanks and can run forever also convertible to bio diesel. working manual sunroof, windows work, lights all intact and working, roofrack. Needs ignition housing and switch also needs indicator housing and switch plus switch for one window and probably a new batt. spare tire included. $ 700 or best offer. the money is for a good cause. * Location: Woodstock NY * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://catskills.craigslist.org/cto/2261999381.html /this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: / http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/U2FsdGVkX18xODgyODE4ONhj0CIJ1yStVZXKgPJodXoGRtFlxmfr-n08Zw4RqPtXui4dwbnUsIZu8h50cUwFDw ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Smart? Oh nooooo....
Her Smart is a fun little car with VERY little carrying capacity. Alas, it gets just 27 mpg in city driving, running high test only. On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 5:14 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...I notice no one is suggesting a Smart. I have pretty well ruled that one out because on occasion I haul three grandkids around, and I don't think that a Smart would be able to do that... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPdEWLnAQr0playnext=1; list=PL21FAC048AF4C75C2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=he6TL15pJtwfeature=related RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Falcon
...If I were looking for true mileage, I'd get a 1960 Ford Falcon with the 144 cu in straight 6. My Dad's got 30-32 mpg with 6 people in the car Decades ago, I had sold a car and ordered a new one which was to show up in 60 days or so. So, as an interim car I found a 1960 Falcon, one of those almost white ones. The new car didn't show up for five months so the Falcon was my go-everywhere car since I was yet to buy my first MB. The Falcon was an OK car except that it was missing one very important feature which was any sort of crash safety. One good thing about the Falcon was the dime store parts prices. I bought a couple of u-joint kits for about eight bucks each and installed them in about an hour with a box-end and a 6 inch crescent. No more clunking. Brake shoes all around was another cheap and easy job. Never checked the gas mileage. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] MPG was Re: I'm feeling sleepy ...
Same with the PT Cruiser. The one my parents had was only good for 16MPG around town and 20MPG highway. Believe it or not, the '05 Chrysler TC minivan will do better. Their '06 Chevy HHR will do low 20's around town and high 20's close to 30MPG on the highway. All of these are automatics. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: $700 MERCEDES 300 Turbo Diesel 1985 - $700(Woodstock NY)
ignition/master switch housing/mount/surround and switch? Did somebody have a switch that hung up/wouldn't turn, and they cut it up in effort to unlock it? Indicator housing - instrument cluster - I don't know - indicator for what? Wilton - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: $700 MERCEDES 300 Turbo Diesel 1985 - $700(Woodstock NY) Great - thanks. Ya think I can drive it back to D.C. absent those few parts? I never heard of either of these housings. *Needs ignition housing and switch also needs indicator housing and switch plus switch for one window and probably a new batt.* On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Fred Moir fred.s...@verizon.net wrote: 300TD. (Wagon) Running no less. Not mine Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred Original Message Subject:$700 MERCEDES 300 Turbo Diesel 1985 - $700 (Woodstock NY) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 13:03:10 -0700 (PDT) From: fred.s...@yahoo.com To: fred.s...@verizon.net fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Visit the posting at http://catskills.craigslist.org/cto/2261999381.htmlto contact the person who posted this. $700 MERCEDES 300 Turbo Diesel 1985 Date: 2011-03-12, 4:06PM This car is in working condithion. Interior is in good condition. 200k mi. Was running, has been parked for one year. Great car for restoration or parts. These cars are built like tanks and can run forever also convertible to bio diesel. working manual sunroof, windows work, lights all intact and working, roofrack. Needs ignition housing and switch also needs indicator housing and switch plus switch for one window and probably a new batt. spare tire included. $ 700 or best offer. the money is for a good cause. * Location: Woodstock NY * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://catskills.craigslist.org/cto/2261999381.html /this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: / http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/U2FsdGVkX18xODgyODE4ONhj0CIJ1yStVZXKgPJodXoGRtFlxmfr-n08Zw4RqPtXui4dwbnUsIZu8h50cUwFDw ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: $700 MERCEDES 300 Turbo Diesel 1985 - $700 (Woodstock NY)
Sounds like maybe someone tried to steal it and broke the steering column. Randy On 14/03/2011 4:27 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Great - thanks. Ya think I can drive it back to D.C. absent those few parts? I never heard of either of these housings. *Needs ignition housing and switch also needs indicator housing and switch plus switch for one window and probably a new batt.* On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Fred Moirfred.s...@verizon.net wrote: 300TD. (Wagon) Running no less. Not mine Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred Original Message Subject:$700 MERCEDES 300 Turbo Diesel 1985 - $700 (Woodstock NY) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 13:03:10 -0700 (PDT) From: fred.s...@yahoo.com To: fred.s...@verizon.net fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Visit the posting at http://catskills.craigslist.org/cto/2261999381.htmlto contact the person who posted this. $700 MERCEDES 300 Turbo Diesel 1985 Date: 2011-03-12, 4:06PM This car is in working condithion. Interior is in good condition. 200k mi. Was running, has been parked for one year. Great car for restoration or parts. These cars are built like tanks and can run forever also convertible to bio diesel. working manual sunroof, windows work, lights all intact and working, roofrack. Needs ignition housing and switch also needs indicator housing and switch plus switch for one window and probably a new batt. spare tire included. $ 700 or best offer. the money is for a good cause. * Location: Woodstock NY * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://catskills.craigslist.org/cto/2261999381.html /this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: / http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/U2FsdGVkX18xODgyODE4ONhj0CIJ1yStVZXKgPJodXoGRtFlxmfr-n08Zw4RqPtXui4dwbnUsIZu8h50cUwFDw ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
I think a TDI Jetta would be the bees knees, torquey, fun, cheap enough And it would still have that Clatta Clatta! I'm thinking of getting a daily driver vehicle that's less cumbersome and more economical than the big Ram pickup. It's good for hauling stuff and dragging the boat around. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: $700 MERCEDES 300 Turbo Diesel 1985 - $700 (Woodstock NY)
Andrew. Assuming that the truth is anything like what is stated, I don't see why not. The housings are the the locking parts for the column and the other is for the directional stalk (s) neither of which should be critical. If the switch is missing, then you would need one, or you would need to fathom which wires will start the car and run the necessary ignition controlled accessories. the vacuum shutoff hangs off the rear of the switch. I brought home a 300CD left out in the weather for two years, Big battery, brass hammer plus screwdriver for the brakes and a pump for the tyres. The starter needed a brass kiss to decide to work. And home we went, via the nearest diesel pump. Sold a year later to Johnny B for a dollar. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 3/14/2011 5:27 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Great - thanks. Ya think I can drive it back to D.C. absent those few parts? I never heard of either of these housings. *Needs ignition housing and switch also needs indicator housing and switch plus switch for one window and probably a new batt.* On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Fred Moirfred.s...@verizon.net wrote: 300TD. (Wagon) Running no less. Not mine Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred Original Message Subject:$700 MERCEDES 300 Turbo Diesel 1985 - $700 (Woodstock NY) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 13:03:10 -0700 (PDT) From: fred.s...@yahoo.com To: fred.s...@verizon.net fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Visit the posting at http://catskills.craigslist.org/cto/2261999381.htmlto contact the person who posted this. $700 MERCEDES 300 Turbo Diesel 1985 Date: 2011-03-12, 4:06PM This car is in working condithion. Interior is in good condition. 200k mi. Was running, has been parked for one year. Great car for restoration or parts. These cars are built like tanks and can run forever also convertible to bio diesel. working manual sunroof, windows work, lights all intact and working, roofrack. Needs ignition housing and switch also needs indicator housing and switch plus switch for one window and probably a new batt. spare tire included. $ 700 or best offer. the money is for a good cause. * Location: Woodstock NY * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://catskills.craigslist.org/cto/2261999381.html /this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: / http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/U2FsdGVkX18xODgyODE4ONhj0CIJ1yStVZXKgPJodXoGRtFlxmfr-n08Zw4RqPtXui4dwbnUsIZu8h50cUwFDw ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should I pull the trigger?
Are there perforations in the rust? Getting the txv out of a 126 is much harder than a 123. You will need metric crowfoot tubing wrenches. The evaporator is a gnarly little job too... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Mar 14, 2011, at 8:01, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hmmm, Plymouth vs. Benz, Plymouth vs. Benz Benz! Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles '95 E300 280k miles '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 2:28:55 AM Subject: [MBZ] Should I pull the trigger? Was offered an 85 126 300sd in need of a rear window swap, AC fix, and some brake work (it eats master cylinders?). It's at a very lucrative sub-Kaleb price, and has rust at the front jack points, 250K on the engine, 300K-ish on the chassis. Engine is strong, swapped in from an 84 123 iirc. I could make room in my collection by removing a much disused Plymouth Horizon, but I'm not sure... Should I pull the trigger? Walt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] fallout map?
Sure do. They have been calibrated and are as accurate now as they were when new. There are several companies who recalibrate these meters. One is a high range (0-500 R/hr) and the other a low range (50 mR/hr), so I should be covered. They were gifted to me on a job I did with the DoD. Whole frickin' warehouse of the things left over from the 50s. Dan --- On Mon, 3/14/11, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] fallout map? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 12:34 PM Dan wrote: Just packed my Civil Defense Geiger counters in preparation for my move. I wonder if their value has suddenly gone up, Old tech, no doubt? Maybe historical and useful value, but nobody wants an old geiger counter... or do they? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: $700 MERCEDES 300 Turbo Diesel 1985 - $700 (Woodstock NY)
For that money (I'd say $500) you could rent a UHaul pickup and a tow dolly for the weekend, drive up there and back with the thing. Take what you need off it, sell off the bits and get your money back. Or keep it and have lots of spare parts. --R On 3/14/2011 6:16 PM, Fred Moir wrote: Andrew. Assuming that the truth is anything like what is stated, I don't see why not. The housings are the the locking parts for the column and the other is for the directional stalk (s) neither of which should be critical. If the switch is missing, then you would need one, or you would need to fathom which wires will start the car and run the necessary ignition controlled accessories. the vacuum shutoff hangs off the rear of the switch. I brought home a 300CD left out in the weather for two years, Big battery, brass hammer plus screwdriver for the brakes and a pump for the tyres. The starter needed a brass kiss to decide to work. And home we went, via the nearest diesel pump. Sold a year later to Johnny B for a dollar. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 3/14/2011 5:27 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Great - thanks. Ya think I can drive it back to D.C. absent those few parts? I never heard of either of these housings. *Needs ignition housing and switch also needs indicator housing and switch plus switch for one window and probably a new batt.* On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Fred Moirfred.s...@verizon.net wrote: 300TD. (Wagon) Running no less. Not mine Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred Original Message Subject:$700 MERCEDES 300 Turbo Diesel 1985 - $700 (Woodstock NY) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 13:03:10 -0700 (PDT) From: fred.s...@yahoo.com To: fred.s...@verizon.net fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Visit the posting at http://catskills.craigslist.org/cto/2261999381.htmlto contact the person who posted this. $700 MERCEDES 300 Turbo Diesel 1985 Date: 2011-03-12, 4:06PM This car is in working condithion. Interior is in good condition. 200k mi. Was running, has been parked for one year. Great car for restoration or parts. These cars are built like tanks and can run forever also convertible to bio diesel. working manual sunroof, windows work, lights all intact and working, roofrack. Needs ignition housing and switch also needs indicator housing and switch plus switch for one window and probably a new batt. spare tire included. $ 700 or best offer. the money is for a good cause. * Location: Woodstock NY * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://catskills.craigslist.org/cto/2261999381.html /this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: / http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/U2FsdGVkX18xODgyODE4ONhj0CIJ1yStVZXKgPJodXoGRtFlxmfr-n08Zw4RqPtXui4dwbnUsIZu8h50cUwFDw ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] fallout map?
http://conelrad.com/index.php --R On 3/14/2011 6:41 PM, LWB250 wrote: Sure do. They have been calibrated and are as accurate now as they were when new. There are several companies who recalibrate these meters. One is a high range (0-500 R/hr) and the other a low range (50 mR/hr), so I should be covered. They were gifted to me on a job I did with the DoD. Whole frickin' warehouse of the things left over from the 50s. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
Scary but true, Ford and GM are tops of the pops in most reliability surveys and Toyota is being hammered. Ford's F150 4wd now tops fuel economy for its class, the Asian imports don't even come in the ballpark. -Curt Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 15:30:12 -0400 From: Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ... Message-ID: 001a01cbe27e$470c3490$d5249db0$@net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I think my biggest fight over choosing an American car comes from having grown up in the 1960's and 70's. One of the very few new cars I have had was a 1973 Caprice Classic. I noticed that the trim around one side of the rear window was 3 too short to make it all the way down; it soon had a rust spot on top of the windshield; it got horrible mileage. The battery died three days after I bought it. My new company Focus was much better and I enjoyed driving it. I even got 54 trouble free miles before the first breakdown. 5 recalls for various issues. I switched back to MB's and love them - and one saved my life in a head-on with a drunk driver [she died on impact]. Hard to get over the mindset that American made cars are junk - though I understand they have improved quite a bit over the past decade. I will not be buying a new car [ever again unless one of my monthly lottery tickets pays off really well] so the question would be which of the 2007-8-9 models is the best buy for me. Bill R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
I have a good friend who is married to a CPA that is a real penny pincher. They bought a Prius new with the intent of saving big bucks due to her 60+/day commute. As she tells the story, the car started out with great mileage, somewhere upwards of 50 mpg, but over time ended up being around 35 mpg as the batteries aged. She also mentioned that a lot of the consumables were very proprietary, forcing the owner to go to the $tealership for things as basic as oil changes. The Prius is now gone, replaced with a Hyundai that gets as good mileage as the Prous did and costs less to maintain. Another point she made was that Toyota is very clear that they have never had a battery fail under warranty, however, there are no guarantees as to the capacity of the battery over it's lifetime. As I interpreted this, as long as it holds a charge, no matter how slight, they are not going to replace it... Dan Sent from my iPod On Mar 14, 2011, at 9:47 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Bill Ringgold wrote: I'm thinking a 2008 hybrid Prius with the comforts this old body wants will run about $18K. I have wondered about some of the new Hyundai models, but do not want a stripped down model, even though we have the S320 for road trips. Worth looking at, but and extra 10 mpg is not a small thing either, and these days I do mostly around town errands [50+ mpg with the Prius]. Driving @12K miles a year I don't suppose a small mpg difference will matter too much. I'm looking seriously at the Prius, but could be persuaded to look elsewhere. A good economy hybrid might get 45hwy/50 city, now that the little Honda Insight is long gone. A good economy car without the battery might get 30 city and 40 hwy, so I would only pay more for the Hybrid if I were planning on doing a lot of local driving. For my driving, I'd take a good look at a Chevy Cruze before buying a Prius. (having seriously shopped neither, I have no idea which I'd buy) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
Sounds like it was an early model prior to the switch in batteries. As I said, my cousin's Prius has over 100k with no diminution of battery power or mileage. The issue with proprietary parts no doubt still holds, though. My S320's $318 mirror glass [heated, sun sensor, etc] wasn't exactly cheap, either, and also proprietary. I will need to do some more checking. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 12:27 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ... I have a good friend who is married to a CPA that is a real penny pincher. They bought a Prius new with the intent of saving big bucks due to her 60+/day commute. As she tells the story, the car started out with great mileage, somewhere upwards of 50 mpg, but over time ended up being around 35 mpg as the batteries aged. She also mentioned that a lot of the consumables were very proprietary, forcing the owner to go to the $tealership for things as basic as oil changes. The Prius is now gone, replaced with a Hyundai that gets as good mileage as the Prous did and costs less to maintain. Another point she made was that Toyota is very clear that they have never had a battery fail under warranty, however, there are no guarantees as to the capacity of the battery over it's lifetime. As I interpreted this, as long as it holds a charge, no matter how slight, they are not going to replace it... Dan Sent from my iPod On Mar 14, 2011, at 9:47 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Bill Ringgold wrote: I'm thinking a 2008 hybrid Prius with the comforts this old body wants will run about $18K. I have wondered about some of the new Hyundai models, but do not want a stripped down model, even though we have the S320 for road trips. Worth looking at, but and extra 10 mpg is not a small thing either, and these days I do mostly around town errands [50+ mpg with the Prius]. Driving @12K miles a year I don't suppose a small mpg difference will matter too much. I'm looking seriously at the Prius, but could be persuaded to look elsewhere. A good economy hybrid might get 45hwy/50 city, now that the little Honda Insight is long gone. A good economy car without the battery might get 30 city and 40 hwy, so I would only pay more for the Hybrid if I were planning on doing a lot of local driving. For my driving, I'd take a good look at a Chevy Cruze before buying a Prius. (having seriously shopped neither, I have no idea which I'd buy) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Safety First
You'd think axle stands these days are a no brainer, pretty cheap for a reasonable pair but then again I have seen professional mechanics go under cars that where just supported by hydraulic pressure. Cemetery is full of people who took a short cut or cheaped out on doing the job properly. Hendrik who has six axle stands and a pair of ramps toms cat1 wrote: Waterford man died doing what he loved most Followup front page article in today's paper. Changing the oil in his BMW. Jack failure. So sad. Tom SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and all those BMWs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] replacing valve stem seals in '85 300TD
For those of you who may have done this job before, the MB workshop engine manual indicates in step 1 of job 05-270 to Remove rocker arms with rocker arm brackets (05-235). Other than what I consider to be the nightmare scenario of disconnecting the cam, tying down the timing chain to the sprocket, etc., I don't see an easy way to remove the rocker arms and brackets. Any clues other than the nightmare scenario? Also, do the rocker arm brackets just sit on top of the block or are there studs on the bottom of the rocker arm brackets which extend/lock into the head? TIA. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: removing rocker arms brackets Q 031411.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1141291 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20110314/26de7a20/attachment.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fw: Fw: FW: Update on Japan Situation
An email my group leader at work forwarded. ANS = American Nuclear Society, the professional organization for people in the business. It mentions the website someone posted to the list over the weekend. Craig Begin forwarded message: FYI -- Forwarded Message From: Joe Colvin presid...@ans.org Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 19:15:30 -0600 Subject: Update on Japan Situation Dear ANS Members: I'm sure you are aware of the rapidly developing situation in Japan. The ANS is working on multiple fronts to collect credible information on the incident, and distribute that information through mainstream and social media outlets. We have communicated with our counterparts at the Atomic Energy Society of Japan to offer any technical or other assistance which may be of help. We have set up a special page on the ANS blog (http://ansnuclearcafe.org) to aggregate media reports and provide additional information when we consider it to be credible. We are also working to organize television appearances and other media availabilities for our members so that some of the misinformation that has been presented by anti-nuclear groups can be rebutted with facts. Our goal is not necessarily to be the first on the air, but to be the most credible. Attached you will find some talking points, along with our current analysis of the sequence of events at Fukushima I-1. I encourage you to talk to your social networks to ensure that people have the right facts and the proper perspective on this incident. Let me know what other actions our Society should be taking during this nuclear incident. My thoughts and prayers go out to the people of Japan. Respectfully, Joe Colvin -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: ANS Japan Backgrounder.pdf Type: application/octet-stream Size: 95417 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20110314/b1d86687/attachment.obj ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
Being the MB bigot that I am, I'd be looking for a nice 320 or 350 CDI -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] replacing valve stem seals in '85 300TD
There is a point in the rotation of the engine where ALL the followers are loose (on a 5 cylinder, one point for the front set and one for the rear). Unbolt and the carriers come off the shallow locator and slide out sideways. You do not need to remove the cam. Looks impossible, but it works. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MPG was Re: I'm feeling sleepy ...
The PT Cruiser was somehow classed as an SUV, its mileage is pathetic. I had one as a rental once and found it to have zero redeeming value. I find though that the people that like them LOVE them, the people that dislike them loathe them (like me). Very little middle ground. -Curt Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 15:00:58 -0700 From: Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] MPG was Re: I'm feeling sleepy ... Message-ID: 6ACA1B40F5A6413A84D8318A14C59CCF@kdogPC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Same with the PT Cruiser. The one my parents had was only good for 16MPG around town and 20MPG highway. Believe it or not, the '05 Chrysler TC minivan will do better. Their '06 Chevy HHR will do low 20's around town and high 20's close to 30MPG on the highway. All of these are automatics. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: Fw: FW: Update on Japan Situation
Craig wrote: An email my group leader at work forwarded. One thing another guy mentioned is that there is an abnormally high level of radon gas in the area. Big big area of radon gas. I guess it usually shows at a quake? Perhaps this is the radioactive stuff the USNavy is picking up in their rescue assistance operations, and not the nuke facility. Speak on, Dr. Craig - you are in the forefront of this type of knowledge, I presume, Sandia, etc... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] replacing valve stem seals in '85 300TD
I may be off base here, but my recollection of this job does not require removal of the cam, just the cam followers. You use a valve spring compressor for removal of the followers, after which you can easily remove the valve springs and keepers. Dan Sent from my iPod On Mar 14, 2011, at 2:45 PM, glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: For those of you who may have done this job before, the MB workshop engine manual indicates in step 1 of job 05-270 to Remove rocker arms with rocker arm brackets (05-235). Other than what I consider to be the nightmare scenario of disconnecting the cam, tying down the timing chain to the sprocket, etc., I don't see an easy way to remove the rocker arms and brackets. Any clues other than the nightmare scenario? Also, do the rocker arm brackets just sit on top of the block or are there studs on the bottom of the rocker arm brackets which extend/lock into the head? TIA. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: removing rocker arms brackets Q 031411.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1141291 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20110314/26de7a20/attachment.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: Fw: FW: Update on Japan Situation
Nope, I think they found radio iodine and cesium unit #2 exploded at 6;10 AM local time, damaged the containment (which wasn't perfect, had a significant flaw. One report had the explosion taking place INSIDE the containment. What I don't understand is why the hydrogen cannot be safely vented. Surely someone thought about the necessity some time during design. Then again, this WAS GE during the 50's and 60's, the epitome of industrial arrogance. Still cleaning up the massive PCB spills out east. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: Fw: FW: Update on Japan Situation
I noticed that my Geiger counter calibration guys in Texas have suspended shipments of iodine pills, as they are apparently overwhelmed by the demand Dan Sent from my iPod On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:11 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Nope, I think they found radio iodine and cesium unit #2 exploded at 6;10 AM local time, damaged the containment (which wasn't perfect, had a significant flaw. One report had the explosion taking place INSIDE the containment. What I don't understand is why the hydrogen cannot be safely vented. Surely someone thought about the necessity some time during design. Then again, this WAS GE during the 50's and 60's, the epitome of industrial arrogance. Still cleaning up the massive PCB spills out east. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: Fw: FW: Update on Japan Situation
However bad this gets, I don't think it will be like Chernobyl for two reasons: These are contained plants, Chernobyl was an uncontained one. Chernobyl was a graphite moderated reactor, so there was not only a completely out of control fission event, but a graphite fire that lasted several days to help spread stuff around. It was so bad video cameras worked very poorly and film was fogged inside cameras. No chance of a run-away fission reaction in Japan, the reactors were properly shut down when the quake hit. The danger here is overheated used fuel. Still bad enough, as the latest update on MSNBC said the fourth reactor at the plant is on fire and leaking radiation. The Japanese Prime Minister has ordered everyone within 12 miles of the plant to be evacuated, and I suspect it will get worse soon. The containment on #2 was defective (big surprise). Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should I pull the trigger?
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 18:28:48 -0400 John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: Are there perforations in the rust? Getting the txv out of a 126 is much harder than a 123. You will need metric crowfoot tubing wrenches. The evaporator is a gnarly little job too... txv? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: Fw: FW: Update on Japan Situation
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 20:59:44 -0500 Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Speak on, Dr. Craig - you are in the forefront of this type of knowledge, I presume, Sandia, etc... Actually, I don't have anything more to say. I certainly am not privy to exactly what is going on in Japan. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: Fw: FW: Update on Japan Situation
http://mitnse.com/ I think these guys probably know a bit about what is going on, or at least enough to interpret what is being reported. -R On 3/14/2011 11:27 PM, Craig wrote: On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 20:59:44 -0500 Mountain Manmaontin@gmail.com wrote: Speak on, Dr. Craig - you are in the forefront of this type of knowledge, I presume, Sandia, etc... Actually, I don't have anything more to say. I certainly am not privy to exactly what is going on in Japan. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: $700 MERCEDES 300 Turbo Diesel 1985 - $700 (Woodstock NY)
That sort of sucks all the profit out of the deal, since I have no room to part it out or keep. On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: For that money (I'd say $500) you could rent a UHaul pickup and a tow dolly for the weekend, drive up there and back with the thing. Take what you need off it, sell off the bits and get your money back. Or keep it and have lots of spare parts. --R On 3/14/2011 6:16 PM, Fred Moir wrote: Andrew. Assuming that the truth is anything like what is stated, I don't see why not. The housings are the the locking parts for the column and the other is for the directional stalk (s) neither of which should be critical. If the switch is missing, then you would need one, or you would need to fathom which wires will start the car and run the necessary ignition controlled accessories. the vacuum shutoff hangs off the rear of the switch. I brought home a 300CD left out in the weather for two years, Big battery, brass hammer plus screwdriver for the brakes and a pump for the tyres. The starter needed a brass kiss to decide to work. And home we went, via the nearest diesel pump. Sold a year later to Johnny B for a dollar. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 3/14/2011 5:27 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Great - thanks. Ya think I can drive it back to D.C. absent those few parts? I never heard of either of these housings. *Needs ignition housing and switch also needs indicator housing and switch plus switch for one window and probably a new batt.* On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Fred Moirfred.s...@verizon.net wrote: 300TD. (Wagon) Running no less. Not mine Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred Original Message Subject:$700 MERCEDES 300 Turbo Diesel 1985 - $700 (Woodstock NY) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 13:03:10 -0700 (PDT) From: fred.s...@yahoo.com To: fred.s...@verizon.net fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Visit the posting at http://catskills.craigslist.org/cto/2261999381.htmlto contact the person who posted this. $700 MERCEDES 300 Turbo Diesel 1985 Date: 2011-03-12, 4:06PM This car is in working condithion. Interior is in good condition. 200k mi. Was running, has been parked for one year. Great car for restoration or parts. These cars are built like tanks and can run forever also convertible to bio diesel. working manual sunroof, windows work, lights all intact and working, roofrack. Needs ignition housing and switch also needs indicator housing and switch plus switch for one window and probably a new batt. spare tire included. $ 700 or best offer. the money is for a good cause. * Location: Woodstock NY * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://catskills.craigslist.org/cto/2261999381.html /this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: / http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/U2FsdGVkX18xODgyODE4ONhj0CIJ1yStVZXKgPJodXoGRtFlxmfr-n08Zw4RqPtXui4dwbnUsIZu8h50cUwFDw ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: Fw: FW: Update on Japan Situation
Retired navy guy who was in the sub service had this to say about the current discussions on the Japan Situation. Anyone agree? Disagree? Gerry ... The word meltdown is being tossed around too carelessly If the heat in the core is not dissipated because cooling water is lost, the rods will melt into an amorphous mass The mass will no longer fission i.e. produce more heat It will be inert The melted mass becomes a clump of nuclear waste --- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net http://mitnse.com/ I think these guys probably know a bit about what is going on, or at least enough to interpret what is being reported. -R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MPG was Re: I'm feeling sleepy ...
Curt, et al. The PT Cruiser is classified as a truck to lower the required mpg average in their truck line. Buy a congress-critter anyone? Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 3/14/2011 9:57 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: The PT Cruiser was somehow classed as an SUV, its mileage is pathetic. I had one as a rental once and found it to have zero redeeming value. I find though that the people that like them LOVE them, the people that dislike them loathe them (like me). Very little middle ground. -Curt Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 15:00:58 -0700 From: Kevin Kralykr...@comcast.net Same with the PT Cruiser. The one my parents had was only good for 16MPG around town and 20MPG highway. Believe it or not, the '05 Chrysler TC minivan will do better. Their '06 Chevy HHR will do low 20's around town and high 20's close to 30MPG on the highway. All of these are automatics. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: Fw: FW: Update on Japan Situation
If the reactors were indeed fully shut down by inserting the control rods, they're battling decay heat, not heat from fision. So if everything melts in this case, the glob of goober will contain the control rods as well, and unless the geometry is just perfect, should be unable to fision. It'll still be a big PITA to clean up, but nowheres near as bad as if the core melted due to losing coolant at full output power with a sustained fision reaction. In that case, you would have, a nice glowing goober that would make three eyed fishies... I think if they were battling fision heat, we'd be hearing about a larger evac circle than 12 miles. Walt, who isn't a nuke engineer, but reads extensivly. On Mar 15, 2011 12:14 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Retired navy guy who was in the sub service had this to say about the current discussions on the Japan Situation. Anyone agree? Disagree? Gerry ... The word meltdown is being tossed around too carelessly If the heat in the core is not dissipated because cooling water is lost, the rods will melt into an amorphous mass The mass will no longer fission i.e. produce more heat It will be inert The melted mass becomes a clump of nuclear waste --- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net http://mitnse.com/ I think these guys probably know a bit about what is going on, or at least enough to interpret what is being reported. -R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MPG was Re: I'm feeling sleepy ...
Wait, required average? As in a Your average mpg must be no higher or lower than X? Walt On Mar 15, 2011 12:24 AM, Fred Moir fred.s...@verizon.net wrote: Curt, et al. The PT Cruiser is classified as a truck to lower the required mpg average in their truck line. Buy a congress-critter anyone? Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 3/14/2011 9:57 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: The PT Cruiser was somehow classed as an SUV, its mileage is pathetic. I had one as a rental once and found it to have zero redeeming value. I find though that the people that like them LOVE them, the people that dislike them loathe them (like me). Very little middle ground. -Curt Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 15:00:58 -0700 From: Kevin Kralykr...@comcast.net Same with the PT Cruiser. The one my parents had was only good for 16MPG around town and 20MPG highway. Believe it or not, the '05 Chrysler TC minivan will do better. Their '06 Chevy HHR will do low 20's around town and high 20's close to 30MPG on the highway. All of these are automatics. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Safety First
Hendrik Fay wrote: You'd think axle stands these days are a no brainer, pretty cheap for a reasonable pair This is one of those deals where I figure if one is good, two is better. And if two is better than three is sweet. And if three is sweet then four is just about right. I generally make sure there is at least two or three things keeping the car off of me. One of which can be the floor jack still in place but with no load. A couple jack stands, a few piles of wood blocks. (big ones - like 6x6 inch oak, hickory, etc). And like someone else mentioned, I like to shake it to be sure it feels like it will stay up before I go under. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: I'm feeling sleepy ...
Another point she made was that Toyota is very clear that they have never had a battery fail under warranty, however, there are no guarantees as to the capacity of the battery over it's lifetime. As I interpreted this, as long as it holds a charge, no matter how slight, they are not going to replace it... Last I heard, Lithium-ion batteries can lose up to 20% capacity per year, use them or not. Never heard of an update on that number, either. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MPG was Re: I'm feeling sleepy ...
There was one thing I liked about the Cruiser, the room. It had great cargo room and lots of room for passengers as well. However, it had lousy ride, horrible road noise, horrible MPG, and the seats were aweful! the HHR was a slight compromise on the room, but not on the other points. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: Fw: FW: Update on Japan Situation
On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 00:31:17 -0400 Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: If the reactors were indeed fully shut down by inserting the control rods, they're battling decay heat, not heat from fision. The PDF I sent from the ANS does indeed say the reactors were properly scrammed (fully shut down): Recognizing that information is still not complete due to the destruction of the communication infrastructure, producing reports that are conflicting, here is our best understanding of the sequence of events at the Fukushima I‐1 power station. * The plant was immediately shut down (scrammed) when the earthquake first hit. The automatic power system worked. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: Fw: FW: Update on Japan Situation
I did not have the ability to read the pdf when I fired the email off, my phone's been fritzing... Thank's for the excerpt, I'll be sure to read the full document in the morning. Good to know that it's just decay heat now, as long as they can keep it cool everything should sort out. Then again, the boron mixed with the seawater emergency coolant suggests a possible fision reaction, unless it's a purely preventative measure... Walt On Mar 15, 2011 1:39 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 00:31:17 -0400 Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: If the reactors were indeed fully shut down by inserting the control rods, they're battling decay heat, not heat from fision. The PDF I sent from the ANS does indeed say the reactors were properly scrammed (fully shut down): Recognizing that information is still not complete due to the destruction of the communication infrastructure, producing reports that are conflicting, here is our best understanding of the sequence of events at the Fukushima I‐1 power station. * The plant was immediately shut down (scrammed) when the earthquake first hit. The automatic power system worked. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
