Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts
I didn't know that about 110V machines. My welder is 110 and I make perfect butt welds on sheet metal but now I'm interested in trying a 220 machine. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 6, 2015, at 2:06 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I don't recall you saying. Is the welder you got 110 volt.. or 220 volt? You will find 110 volt wire feeds struggle to hold a stable arc thus have larger variation in the weld puddle temp and size.. With experience, the welder can adjust his handling of the weld to compensate.. some.. but he will always be behind the curve a little. On thicker material, it won't be so apparent.. as you go to thin sheet metal that lead / lag in arc stability and weld puddle temp becomes more critical.. Yes, you can blame it on the machine in that instance. It will preform more acceptably using the spot weld tecnique than trying to run a continous bead because the shorter heat cycle will be more within it's capabilities. Adapt and Overcome... On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 9:53 AM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If I can make welds that look and perform well enough with this garbage unit, I will move up to a real gas shielded product for future projects. If I can not keep from producing crap, I will give up on welding, having invested little in the attempt clay On Jun 5, 2015, at 3:28 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes wrote: Unless you use shielding gas you will be unhappy with your results. I promise! Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2015, at 4:33 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The wire is garbage, but it came free with the welder. May as well burn through it. setting up feed speed is hit and miss for now. It does not want to feed as slowly as the graph inside says I need it. There are two amperage speeds. Lots and not that much. I could not get much speed or heat to get a good bead clay On Jun 5, 2015, at 1:12 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: clay wrote: I could not get a decent bead using the PC carcasses and was getting a bunch of blow through. Thin sheet metal and gasless wirefeed is pretty tough. Set the wire feed and amperage low. And get some good wire. The HF wire is junk. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb!! - a Match for your Euro W126!
Hmmm. I just happen to be in Orlando on a layover… On Jun 6, 2015, at 1:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Well when a new one costs the same as a new one from 20-30 years ago that should speak volumes Sent from my iPhone On Jun 6, 2015, at 12:07 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I drove #1 boy's 300SE the other day. I am truly impressed by the fit and finish compared the the w220. The w140 is just the apex of luxury and comfort. The driver seat feels like you are sitting you your granddad's favorite chair when you were a kid. Big, fully supportive and expensive. The full Pullman experience. The S430 is a korean car in contrast. Plastic that just cracks and fails if you look at it. Leather is paper thin and of lesser quality than what was used in the E300D. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jun 5, 2015, at 5:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I would rather jump on this: http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/5060315514.html This is the W140 I was going to look at but didn’t. There’s got to be something fishy going on here, as if the car was as described it should have sold a long time ago. If he gets down to $2500 by the end of next week I’ll buy it. Dan On Jun 5, 2015, at 8:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You should jump on that, key should be easy to get Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2015, at 7:35 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Just find the keys! http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/5060434994.html Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Transmission Toast?
I agree, but getting out the pedal set was a royal pain. I am not sure I can contort enough to get the new pedal set in. The rest of it is pretty straightforward. One other thing I am considering is a 82-83 trans with the big box doohicky that sits on the side between the IP and the oelfilter. That box replaces the vacuum valve that sits on top of the valve cover. If you want to come through and donate some kids' time to RR the pedal set and master cyl, id be happy! We can all go to Hickory Park... Curly wrote: I guess it is about time to get out the 4 speed and do the manual conversion. That's my idea of how to repair an automatic transmission! I've never actually done it, though... If I remember correctly, the 240D flywheel is balanced separately from the shaft, so all I need to do is swap flywheels to get started. (and buy a pilot bearing) That's what I recall. I have also read of folks who used the 4 cyl flywheel for a 5 cyl car and it worked ok Yeah, I put the OM621 flywheel on the OM616 in the 200D 2.4. It had a big counterbalance on it. I ground off the counterbalance and balanced the flywheel on a tire spin balance machine. Its been 17 years now and still ok, but not much use since 2007. That was over a long weekend, and no access to machine shops. I did have access to the tire balance machine. A guy had agreed to sell me a flywheel but when I went to get it, he decided he didn't want to sell it. He only had 20 some parts cars. A miniature Kaleb. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone heard anything from Rusty?
Craig writes: I think he’s dead - like Jabba. Really? Both of them died? Or just dead to the virtual world? Dead the virtual world of this list and Banned at least. Very much alive in the real world, I think. I have not heard from Rusty in a LONG Time. Jabba is alive in the virtual world of Facebook. Mao needs to join Facebook... Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone heard anything from Rusty?
Both, I think. Dan I’m not dead yet On Jun 6, 2015, at 3:30 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 13:48:14 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I think he’s dead - like Jabba. Really? Both of them died? Or just dead to the virtual world? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone heard anything from Rusty?
Dan I’m not dead yet http://youtu.be/mb2frZOA1Fw Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tractor
Mine is a DK45s, 2006 model. It's the model before the current DKxxSE models. Dealer access is important, especially with a new (i.e in warranty) machine. Recommend you scan posts on the Kioti owner/operator section of Tractor By Net (http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kioti-owning-operating/), maybe even solicit advice from other CK owners. WRT size, many owners traded up to a bigger tractor after using a smaller one. The main advantage of smaller machines is maneuvering in tight quarters (like in the woods). In the final analysis, the right size depends on what you need to do with the tractor. About that backhoe, you may get a better deal if you but it at the same time as the tractor. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond via Mercedes Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2015 12:45 AM To: Diesel List Cc: Curt Raymond Subject: Re: [MBZ] tractor Which Kioti do you have? I'm leaning toward the CK27. I'm taking the advice to go oversized and not get the 20. I don't think we'll do a backhoe but you never know. I like that there's a dealer near camp and one near my house. I'm kind of thinking I'd keep it at my place for the summer. Probably won't get more than 150 hours a year either way... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android From:Scott Ritchey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Date:Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 11:34 PM Subject:Re: [MBZ] tractor If you use it frequently, you won't regret getting a real pallet fork with a quick- attach interface. My loader has the skid-steer quick attach interface but I think John Deere has their own version of something similar. The quick-attach makes changing buckets, forks, etc. very fast and easy. By the way, there is an aftermarket grease gun coupler called LocknLube, which I highly recommend (available from Amazon and others). It's overpriced ($30) but worth it. All the grease goes into the fitting. On my Kioti, the loader gets greased every 10 hours, the mower every 20, and everything else every 50 hours; so a good coupler saves a little grease and a lot of mess. -Original Message- From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 10:47 PM I'm thinking I'm going to get that more expensive style I sent that replaces the bucket. I noticed they have a bunch of different versions of that depending on what you want doz Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2015, at 9:44 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The clamp-on forks are useful but with two drawbacks: (1) you can't see what you are doing when the bucket blocks your view and (2) you will bend the bucket if you overload them (the loader is stronger than the lip of the bucket). Still they are quite useful for the money. I got a set just to unload palletized deliveries to my farm. The driver just pulls off the road, moves the pallet to the back of the truck with his pallet jack, and I slip the forks under he pallet to unload. You may want back ballast (like a mower or box blade) to lift heavier stuff with the loader. For several reasons, you don't want the back wheels to leave the ground. While visiting my brother-in-law's farm in Virginia, he introduced me to a new term: tractor envy. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 9:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin Subject: [MBZ] tractor I think this tractor is one of the best things since sliced bread. Today at old okie acres I used it to load up a HUGE tree that blew down that I cut up. Later at home I used it to move 124 around. While the FEL wont lift the front of a 124 off the ground, it will lift it up enough then I can push it to where I want. I managed to screw up the already broken front bumper air dam a little more with the front bucket. So I am now thinking about buying some bucket forks which I could use to load engines that I am fixing to start moving, and when moving cars can get the forks up under front of the car and lift. I am looking at these clamp on type like this which are cheap: http://www.amazon.com/Pallet-bucket-loaders-tractors- steers/dp/B002ITHNWY/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8qid=1433555093sr=8- 4keywords=bucket+forks But thinking I should pony up more money and get this setup, which the bucket detaches from the FEL and you attach this, looks like it would work a lot better http://www.amazon.com/Titan-Pallet-Attachment-Deere- Loaders/dp/B00A1D103W/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8qid=1433555181sr=8- 13keywords=bucket+forks ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change
Re: [MBZ] OT another sort of metal working question
Ya'll probably know this but when working with lead - melting it, etc - be very careful of the fumes - they are toxic and can cause liver and other damage... LarryT 91 300D On 6/5/2015 11:32 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: JB Weld was my thought as well - but use it instead of the lead, not to seal the end before pouring lead. On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 5:43 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Jb weld? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Transmission Toast?
the 81 240D (auto) will slip some in high gear if you try to accelerate hard. I am thinking the auto transmission is toast. Anyone had this experience before. It is the same as a worn out clutch in a manual trans car when it slips in the highest gear in acceleration. Unfortunately it is the one year only transmission. no cable. I guess it is about time to get out the 4 speed and do the manual conversion. If I remember correctly, the 240D flywheel is balanced separately from the shaft, so all I need to do is swap flywheels to get started. (and buy a pilot bearing) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb!! - a Match for your Euro W126!
Yeah, I’m not sure about that. Looks like he painted the wheels a couple of weeks ago, as it used to have the stock silver color on them. Not sure what the seller was thinking, but it doesn’t add to the look of the car in my opinion. Dan On Jun 5, 2015, at 10:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Looks nice but what's the deal with the wheels? I thought something was fishy with that 600 which is why I did not jump on it but As it turned out it may have been a good deal after all. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2015, at 7:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I would rather jump on this: http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/5060315514.html This is the W140 I was going to look at but didn’t. There’s got to be something fishy going on here, as if the car was as described it should have sold a long time ago. If he gets down to $2500 by the end of next week I’ll buy it. Dan On Jun 5, 2015, at 8:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You should jump on that, key should be easy to get Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2015, at 7:35 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Just find the keys! http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/5060434994.html Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tractor
That fits with other advice I've gotten. I've also read to go up on power with a hydro tractor which is why I'm thinking the 27 instead of the 20. Smaller size is important to us for mowing around trees. I'm thinking maybe loader backhoe and bush hog but I could probably give up the backhoe. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 front end knock/click
Yes, I had the top bolt for a new strut (no more double nuts) loosen on a 124. It may be time for struts and bearings also. Can the top strut mounts be a source of play, and produce a knock/click? If I back up and brake, then go forward and brake (while parking, for instance), I get a distinct single knock. I also have play when pulling/pushing on the top of each front wheel, but no play at the 9 3 o'clock position. New: inner bushings, sway bar bushings, drag link and right tie rod assembly, ball joints. I think the struts and mounts haven't been replaced since I bought the car. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 front end knock/click
I think the struts and strut mounts have at least 100k miles if not more, I just reviewed my log for the car ('95 sedan) and I haven't replaced either of those. Front bearings were serviced a couple years ago. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On June 6, 2015 8:41:27 AM EDT, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yes, I had the top bolt for a new strut (no more double nuts) loosen on a 124. It may be time for struts and bearings also. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 124 front end knock/click
Can the top strut mounts be a source of play, and produce a knock/click? If I back up and brake, then go forward and brake (while parking, for instance), I get a distinct single knock. I also have play when pulling/pushing on the top of each front wheel, but no play at the 9 3 o'clock position. New: inner bushings, sway bar bushings, drag link and right tie rod assembly, ball joints. I think the struts and mounts haven't been replaced since I bought the car. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Transmission Toast?
I've never heard that. I would have a machine shop match-balance the old driven plate to the new flywheel, be sure to mark clock orientation on crank, old plate and new flywheel. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On June 6, 2015 8:38:23 AM EDT, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If I remember correctly, the 240D flywheel is balanced separately from the shaft, so all I need to do is swap flywheels to get started. (and buy a pilot bearing) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Should Mao Buy It...
Then CHANGE YOUR FUSES? http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/5035276031.html Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT another sort of metal working question
These last few days I drove up to DC from SC, collected the boy and his impedimenta, and hauled it all up to Providence RI then drove back. It has been some time since I have been up that way, most everything from DC north, hell, Richmond (the capital of the Confederacy) north is pretty much intolerable, even VA has become a total nanny state (and my wife's liberal cousin is gubna now). Traffic is horrible, the roads are beat to hell, expensive tolls every 3 miles, people are rude and inconsiderate and discourteous, weather was not pleasant... I got my fill. I tell you what, when I crossed back into SC at SOTB, even though the roads here are beat to hell too, I was Very Happy. And a gallon of gas was $0.30 cheaper (which is why the roads here are beat to hell, but whatever...). Time to go throw some ribs on the smoke... --R On 6/6/15 11:19 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Hahahahahha you think? Ok, OK.. so I have both OCD and ADD ... Everything has to be EXACTLY perfect... but only for a little while... I've actually come to accept that Andrew and I will never agree. It's OK, I can respect that. It is just environmental damage from having to live in the DC climate. On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 8:12 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew would disagree --R On 6/6/15 11:04 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: I've been melting and recasting wheel weight lead for the last 35 years and making lead shot for skeet shooting reloads, and lead bullets. Likely have handled several tons over the years. No ill effects to date. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S430/W220 Fleece Filter - ???
Turned to dust and tossed into the wind clay On Jun 5, 2015, at 3:24 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: OK, so this is the first one of these fleece filters I've ever used. I see the little graphic with the filter about how it's supposed to be positioned on the long plastic tube, but what in the heck are all the O rings for that come with it?? I'm sure t will make sense when I pull the old one out, but I want to be sureŠ. Dan W'ere's Woger w'en we need im? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts
The attempt yesterday was on uncleaned metal. The disk brake was much better, as it was only rusty, which I brushed off. I will use a grinder or wire wheel to clean up future training attempts. clay On Jun 5, 2015, at 3:42 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: PC boxes are most likely clad with galvanize material. Galvanizing requires the base metal be coated with Zinc compounds which can and WILL contaminate your weld, thus welds that look like bird droppings. The job of rod flux is to carry away the contaminates in the weld puddle, but the flux core wire from China doesn't have enough volume of flux to combat zinc contamination of the weld puddle.. in fact.. if you were using gas, you would have to crank up the flow rate to over come it. The fact that you are having splatter and slag issues should have keyed me to tell you the zinc boiling off is likely the cause. I overlooked that.. my apology. Try a welding a piece of the same material you have dressed with a grinding wheel to clean steel.. see if it doesn't give you a much better weld. I will lay bets it does. Go to your local steel supplier and pick up some end cut scraps for practice, in MILD STEEL only.. then run a few passes.. look at the difference.. you should see immediate good results.. even with crappy Chinese flux wire from Harbor Fright. A good part of welding is knowing the metalurgy of the metal you are joining.. and how it affects the weld. On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Unless you use shielding gas you will be unhappy with your results. I promise! Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2015, at 4:33 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The wire is garbage, but it came free with the welder. May as well burn through it. setting up feed speed is hit and miss for now. It does not want to feed as slowly as the graph inside says I need it. There are two amperage speeds. Lots and not that much. I could not get much speed or heat to get a good bead clay On Jun 5, 2015, at 1:12 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: clay wrote: I could not get a decent bead using the PC carcasses and was getting a bunch of blow through. Thin sheet metal and gasless wirefeed is pretty tough. Set the wire feed and amperage low. And get some good wire. The HF wire is junk. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts
I got a really nice Carhart jacket for $2 at goodwill. Heavy denim that the gloves fit well over. There was also a nice heavy cotton child's blanket from back in the day. I will be stitching two layers of fiberglass to it so I have a welding blanket. Maybe use it as a bib if I am welding at waist level. clay On Jun 5, 2015, at 6:25 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I would imagine the HF unit is basically a Chinese copy of my Lincoln HandyMig. Mine has provision for shielding gas but I've never set it up, the bottle would be decidedly un-handy, I'd need a cart for the thing, blah blah.I think I paid $250 or so for mine and its been worth the money. I burn through about 5# of wire a year. I've also been lucky to have some time on multi-thousand dollar Miller machines with shielding gas and while those are fantastic I'm not dissatisfied with my machine.The trick is that I tend to end up using much more wire speed than I think I need and counter-intuitively sheet metal usually requires more wire speed. When welding heavier stuff I end up using the same wire speed or a little less, I turn the heat up and just move slower which gives the penetration needed. This was hard for me to learn after I'd taught myself how to do sheet metal. Theres definitely an art to it and since I haven't welded in 3 or 4 months I know the next time I try it'll take me an hour or so to get the feel back. I find for me moving the torch in little circles is the key to preventing burn through. I generally push the puddle although I've had some success dragging it, mostly when welding upside down like on a car floor. Remember that the coating on the wire will absorb water. A new spool of wire is so nice which is why I only buy 5# at a time. My machine will handle a 20# spool but it'd be gross by the time I got to the end. I *think* you could dry it back out if you put it in a box with an incandescent bulb for a couple hours but I've yet to try it... After I burned (and scarred) the inside of my elbow last fall Angie bought me a welding shirt that has leather arms. Its not the height of fashion buts nice to have that safety. -Curt From: Dimitri via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dimitri dsereta...@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts Unless you use shielding gas you will be unhappy with your results. I promise! Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2015, at 4:33 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The wire is garbage, but it came free with the welder. May as well burn through it. setting up feed speed is hit and miss for now. It does not want to feed as slowly as the graph inside says I need it. There are two amperage speeds. Lots and not that much. I could not get much speed or heat to get a good bead clay On Jun 5, 2015, at 1:12 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: clay wrote: I could not get a decent bead using the PC carcasses and was getting a bunch of blow through. Thin sheet metal and gasless wirefeed is pretty tough. Set the wire feed and amperage low. And get some good wire. The HF wire is junk. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Transmission Toast?
On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 08:57:52 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I've never heard that. I would have a machine shop match-balance the old driven plate to the new flywheel, be sure to mark clock orientation on crank, old plate and new flywheel. Max is correct. The shop manual shows a procedure for transferring the balance of an old flywheel to a new flywheel. I did not do that in my conversion for various reasons and was fortunate things worked out. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb!! - a Match for your Euro W126!
Well when a new one costs the same as a new one from 20-30 years ago that should speak volumes Sent from my iPhone On Jun 6, 2015, at 12:07 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I drove #1 boy's 300SE the other day. I am truly impressed by the fit and finish compared the the w220. The w140 is just the apex of luxury and comfort. The driver seat feels like you are sitting you your granddad's favorite chair when you were a kid. Big, fully supportive and expensive. The full Pullman experience. The S430 is a korean car in contrast. Plastic that just cracks and fails if you look at it. Leather is paper thin and of lesser quality than what was used in the E300D. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jun 5, 2015, at 5:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I would rather jump on this: http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/5060315514.html This is the W140 I was going to look at but didn’t. There’s got to be something fishy going on here, as if the car was as described it should have sold a long time ago. If he gets down to $2500 by the end of next week I’ll buy it. Dan On Jun 5, 2015, at 8:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You should jump on that, key should be easy to get Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2015, at 7:35 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Just find the keys! http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/5060434994.html Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT another sort of metal working question
Hahahahahha you think? Ok, OK.. so I have both OCD and ADD ... Everything has to be EXACTLY perfect... but only for a little while... I've actually come to accept that Andrew and I will never agree. It's OK, I can respect that. It is just environmental damage from having to live in the DC climate. On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 8:12 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew would disagree --R On 6/6/15 11:04 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: I've been melting and recasting wheel weight lead for the last 35 years and making lead shot for skeet shooting reloads, and lead bullets. Likely have handled several tons over the years. No ill effects to date. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Transmission Toast?
Curly wrote: I guess it is about time to get out the 4 speed and do the manual conversion. That's my idea of how to repair an automatic transmission! I've never actually done it, though... If I remember correctly, the 240D flywheel is balanced separately from the shaft, so all I need to do is swap flywheels to get started. (and buy a pilot bearing) That's what I recall. I have also read of folks who used the 4 cyl flywheel for a 5 cyl car and it worked ok ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts
If I can make welds that look and perform well enough with this garbage unit, I will move up to a real gas shielded product for future projects. If I can not keep from producing crap, I will give up on welding, having invested little in the attempt clay On Jun 5, 2015, at 3:28 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes wrote: Unless you use shielding gas you will be unhappy with your results. I promise! Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2015, at 4:33 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The wire is garbage, but it came free with the welder. May as well burn through it. setting up feed speed is hit and miss for now. It does not want to feed as slowly as the graph inside says I need it. There are two amperage speeds. Lots and not that much. I could not get much speed or heat to get a good bead clay On Jun 5, 2015, at 1:12 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: clay wrote: I could not get a decent bead using the PC carcasses and was getting a bunch of blow through. Thin sheet metal and gasless wirefeed is pretty tough. Set the wire feed and amperage low. And get some good wire. The HF wire is junk. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should Mao Buy It...
On Sat, 6 Jun 2015 09:25:08 -0500 Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Then CHANGE YOUR FUSES? http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/5035276031.html YES! What a deal! It's worth more than $500 as scrap. If we were now in Indiana, I jump all over it! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should Mao Buy It...
Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Then CHANGE YOUR FUSES? http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/5035276031.html Dan should be expert in S500 cranks then dies by now. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should Mao Buy It...
Crystal Lake is light years from Northern Indiana. it’s northwest of Chicago almost to the WI border. Closer to the Doobie Brothers. Dan On Jun 6, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Sat, 6 Jun 2015 09:25:08 -0500 Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Then CHANGE YOUR FUSES? http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/5035276031.html YES! What a deal! It's worth more than $500 as scrap. If we were now in Indiana, I jump all over it! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT another sort of metal working question
Yes, however, it's a slow death and you go insane first. Since you drive and work on antique [by modern standards] Mercedes, no one will notice. ;)) Work in a ventilated area, use a clay dam to keep the lead from pouring through, and only heat the lead pot to the liquid lead pour point, preheat the joint to get better contact adheasion. You should be good to go. I've been melting and recasting wheel weight lead for the last 35 years and making lead shot for skeet shooting reloads, and lead bullets. Likely have handled several tons over the years. No ill effects to date. I do however resist the urge to ever lick lead bars or breath the fumes. To date, I can report I've been healthy. I doubt you can ingest enough lead in a single use event to cause a medical issue.. unless, of course, you live in California, where every substance touched by man has some ill effect. On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 4:49 AM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ya'll probably know this but when working with lead - melting it, etc - be very careful of the fumes - they are toxic and can cause liver and other damage... LarryT 91 300D On 6/5/2015 11:32 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: JB Weld was my thought as well - but use it instead of the lead, not to seal the end before pouring lead. On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 5:43 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Jb weld? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT another sort of metal working question
Andrew would disagree --R On 6/6/15 11:04 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: I've been melting and recasting wheel weight lead for the last 35 years and making lead shot for skeet shooting reloads, and lead bullets. Likely have handled several tons over the years. No ill effects to date. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Transmission Toast?
I have 1 more complete 4 speed manny parts car Sent from my iPhone On Jun 6, 2015, at 10:43 AM, fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Curly wrote: I guess it is about time to get out the 4 speed and do the manual conversion. That's my idea of how to repair an automatic transmission! I've never actually done it, though... If I remember correctly, the 240D flywheel is balanced separately from the shaft, so all I need to do is swap flywheels to get started. (and buy a pilot bearing) That's what I recall. I have also read of folks who used the 4 cyl flywheel for a 5 cyl car and it worked ok ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts
I am outside and will set up a fan to assist in moving toxins clay On Jun 5, 2015, at 3:53 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Not just sick.. but dead. .. welding galvanized metal in an enclosed space will kill you. The antidote, however is to drink milk... being lactose intollerent isn't going to help you there.. ha.. Remove the victim to fresh air quickly and vent the area of toxic gases. Of course. On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'm not a welder, but I understand that welding galvanised steel produces fumes that can make you sick? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb!! - a Match for your Euro W126!
I drove #1 boy's 300SE the other day. I am truly impressed by the fit and finish compared the the w220. The w140 is just the apex of luxury and comfort. The driver seat feels like you are sitting you your granddad's favorite chair when you were a kid. Big, fully supportive and expensive. The full Pullman experience. The S430 is a korean car in contrast. Plastic that just cracks and fails if you look at it. Leather is paper thin and of lesser quality than what was used in the E300D. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jun 5, 2015, at 5:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I would rather jump on this: http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/5060315514.html This is the W140 I was going to look at but didn’t. There’s got to be something fishy going on here, as if the car was as described it should have sold a long time ago. If he gets down to $2500 by the end of next week I’ll buy it. Dan On Jun 5, 2015, at 8:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You should jump on that, key should be easy to get Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2015, at 7:35 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Just find the keys! http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/5060434994.html Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts
On Sat, 6 Jun 2015 09:53:53 -0700 clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If I can make welds that look and perform well enough with this garbage unit, I will move up to a real gas shielded product for future projects. If I can not keep from producing crap, I will give up on welding, having invested little in the attempt But if the garbage unit and wire are what is causing you to make welds that do not look and perform well enough, you would have given up on welding needlessly. A spool of good wire is not that expensive ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Used 1982 Mercedes-Benz 300 for Sale in Raleigh, Durham, Cary NC 27511, 27513, 27519, 27502, 27601, 27605, 27608, 2 Madsen Motor Company Inc.
Weis nichts. Looks nice. No more green for me. On Jun 6, 2015 6:16 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 63 k? Vraiment? Wilton - Original Message - From: Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2015 5:54 PM Subject: [MBZ] Used 1982 Mercedes-Benz 300 for Sale in Raleigh, Durham, Cary NC 27511, 27513, 27519, 27502, 27601, 27605, 27608, 2 Madsen Motor Company Inc. http://www.madsenmotors.com/1982-MercedesBenz-300/Used-Car/Raleigh%2cDurham%2cCary-NC/4993948/Details.aspx ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Used 1982 Mercedes-Benz 300 for Sale in Raleigh, Durham, Cary NC 27511, 27513, 27519, 27502, 27601, 27605, 27608, 2 Madsen Motor Company Inc.
63 k? Vraiment? Wilton - Original Message - From: Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2015 5:54 PM Subject: [MBZ] Used 1982 Mercedes-Benz 300 for Sale in Raleigh, Durham, Cary NC 27511, 27513, 27519, 27502, 27601, 27605, 27608, 2 Madsen Motor Company Inc. http://www.madsenmotors.com/1982-MercedesBenz-300/Used-Car/Raleigh%2cDurham%2cCary-NC/4993948/Details.aspx ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Used 1982 Mercedes-Benz 300 for Sale in Raleigh, Durham, Cary NC 27511, 27513, 27519, 27502, 27601, 27605, 27608, 2 Madsen Motor Company Inc.
Shows well in the pictures, yet, it is a repaint, dealer owned and prepped.. Interior shows well also.. however, at that price, it should. I'm seeing a $4000 car with a $4000 dollar paint and dealer prep job.. Pass.. tyvm. On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://www.madsenmotors.com/1982-MercedesBenz-300/Used-Car/Raleigh%2cDurham%2cCary-NC/4993948/Details.aspx ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts
See, I am still on the upward curve clay On Jun 6, 2015, at 12:51 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes wrote: You mean tack welds. Spot welds are made by a dedicated spot welder. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 6, 2015, at 3:31 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It is the crap 90 amp 115v cheapo unit. I want to get comfortable with it making beads, but intend to mostly spot weld the panels for the floor. With enough spots, I figure I can then do mini beads to link them. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jun 6, 2015, at 11:06 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: I don't recall you saying. Is the welder you got 110 volt.. or 220 volt? You will find 110 volt wire feeds struggle to hold a stable arc thus have larger variation in the weld puddle temp and size.. With experience, the welder can adjust his handling of the weld to compensate.. some.. but he will always be behind the curve a little. On thicker material, it won't be so apparent.. as you go to thin sheet metal that lead / lag in arc stability and weld puddle temp becomes more critical.. Yes, you can blame it on the machine in that instance. It will preform more acceptably using the spot weld tecnique than trying to run a continous bead because the shorter heat cycle will be more within it's capabilities. Adapt and Overcome... On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 9:53 AM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If I can make welds that look and perform well enough with this garbage unit, I will move up to a real gas shielded product for future projects. If I can not keep from producing crap, I will give up on welding, having invested little in the attempt clay On Jun 5, 2015, at 3:28 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes wrote: Unless you use shielding gas you will be unhappy with your results. I promise! Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2015, at 4:33 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The wire is garbage, but it came free with the welder. May as well burn through it. setting up feed speed is hit and miss for now. It does not want to feed as slowly as the graph inside says I need it. There are two amperage speeds. Lots and not that much. I could not get much speed or heat to get a good bead clay On Jun 5, 2015, at 1:12 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: clay wrote: I could not get a decent bead using the PC carcasses and was getting a bunch of blow through. Thin sheet metal and gasless wirefeed is pretty tough. Set the wire feed and amperage low. And get some good wire. The HF wire is junk. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Used 1982 Mercedes-Benz 300 for Sale in Raleigh, Durham, Cary NC 27511, 27513, 27519, 27502, 27601, 27605, 27608, 2 Madsen Motor Company Inc.
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Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts
I didn't know that about 110V machines. My welder is 110 and I make perfect butt welds on sheet metal but now I'm interested in trying a 220 machine. Sent from my iPhone Nicest welder I have ever used was a huge old motor (electric) generator generating DC to weld with. I t weighed literally close to a ton. With 6010 rods, it was terrific welding. Some of the 70xx rods I was adequate with but I loved the 6010s with that motor gen. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts
Using a shit welder will make you give up on welding. Spend $600 on a real welder and make good welds from day one. Been there done that. Trust me. Sent from my iPhone The Master has spoken! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should Mao Buy It...
On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 10:49:27 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Crystal Lake is light years from Northern Indiana. it’s northwest of Chicago almost to the WI border. Closer to the Doobie Brothers. Certainly not compared to Santa Fe, New Mexico. And now that I'm driving 125 miles per day attending classes in Albuquerque ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts
Don't waste your time on anything but clean metal. Not 'til you have some experience, anyway. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts
It is the crap 90 amp 115v cheapo unit. I want to get comfortable with it making beads, but intend to mostly spot weld the panels for the floor. With enough spots, I figure I can then do mini beads to link them. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jun 6, 2015, at 11:06 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: I don't recall you saying. Is the welder you got 110 volt.. or 220 volt? You will find 110 volt wire feeds struggle to hold a stable arc thus have larger variation in the weld puddle temp and size.. With experience, the welder can adjust his handling of the weld to compensate.. some.. but he will always be behind the curve a little. On thicker material, it won't be so apparent.. as you go to thin sheet metal that lead / lag in arc stability and weld puddle temp becomes more critical.. Yes, you can blame it on the machine in that instance. It will preform more acceptably using the spot weld tecnique than trying to run a continous bead because the shorter heat cycle will be more within it's capabilities. Adapt and Overcome... On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 9:53 AM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If I can make welds that look and perform well enough with this garbage unit, I will move up to a real gas shielded product for future projects. If I can not keep from producing crap, I will give up on welding, having invested little in the attempt clay On Jun 5, 2015, at 3:28 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes wrote: Unless you use shielding gas you will be unhappy with your results. I promise! Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2015, at 4:33 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The wire is garbage, but it came free with the welder. May as well burn through it. setting up feed speed is hit and miss for now. It does not want to feed as slowly as the graph inside says I need it. There are two amperage speeds. Lots and not that much. I could not get much speed or heat to get a good bead clay On Jun 5, 2015, at 1:12 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: clay wrote: I could not get a decent bead using the PC carcasses and was getting a bunch of blow through. Thin sheet metal and gasless wirefeed is pretty tough. Set the wire feed and amperage low. And get some good wire. The HF wire is junk. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone heard anything from Rusty?
On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 13:48:14 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I think he’s dead - like Jabba. Really? Both of them died? Or just dead to the virtual world? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts
You mean tack welds. Spot welds are made by a dedicated spot welder. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 6, 2015, at 3:31 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It is the crap 90 amp 115v cheapo unit. I want to get comfortable with it making beads, but intend to mostly spot weld the panels for the floor. With enough spots, I figure I can then do mini beads to link them. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jun 6, 2015, at 11:06 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: I don't recall you saying. Is the welder you got 110 volt.. or 220 volt? You will find 110 volt wire feeds struggle to hold a stable arc thus have larger variation in the weld puddle temp and size.. With experience, the welder can adjust his handling of the weld to compensate.. some.. but he will always be behind the curve a little. On thicker material, it won't be so apparent.. as you go to thin sheet metal that lead / lag in arc stability and weld puddle temp becomes more critical.. Yes, you can blame it on the machine in that instance. It will preform more acceptably using the spot weld tecnique than trying to run a continous bead because the shorter heat cycle will be more within it's capabilities. Adapt and Overcome... On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 9:53 AM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If I can make welds that look and perform well enough with this garbage unit, I will move up to a real gas shielded product for future projects. If I can not keep from producing crap, I will give up on welding, having invested little in the attempt clay On Jun 5, 2015, at 3:28 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes wrote: Unless you use shielding gas you will be unhappy with your results. I promise! Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2015, at 4:33 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The wire is garbage, but it came free with the welder. May as well burn through it. setting up feed speed is hit and miss for now. It does not want to feed as slowly as the graph inside says I need it. There are two amperage speeds. Lots and not that much. I could not get much speed or heat to get a good bead clay On Jun 5, 2015, at 1:12 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: clay wrote: I could not get a decent bead using the PC carcasses and was getting a bunch of blow through. Thin sheet metal and gasless wirefeed is pretty tough. Set the wire feed and amperage low. And get some good wire. The HF wire is junk. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts
I have all of 40 minutes into the training as of this moment. I expect to have a few more hours and bits of metal under my belt by the end of next week. If I am still making welds that look like something you find in a diaper, I will re-evaluate my competence. clay On Jun 6, 2015, at 10:20 AM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Sat, 6 Jun 2015 09:53:53 -0700 clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If I can make welds that look and perform well enough with this garbage unit, I will move up to a real gas shielded product for future projects. If I can not keep from producing crap, I will give up on welding, having invested little in the attempt But if the garbage unit and wire are what is causing you to make welds that do not look and perform well enough, you would have given up on welding needlessly. A spool of good wire is not that expensive ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone heard anything from Rusty?
No Sent from my iPhone On Jun 6, 2015, at 12:24 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I sent an email to Rusty at rustycull...@gmail.com in early May and have heard nothing back. Has anyone heard anything from him lately? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Anyone heard anything from Rusty?
I sent an email to Rusty at rustycull...@gmail.com in early May and have heard nothing back. Has anyone heard anything from him lately? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts
Using a shit welder will make you give up on welding. Spend $600 on a real welder and make good welds from day one. Been there done that. Trust me. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 6, 2015, at 12:53 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If I can make welds that look and perform well enough with this garbage unit, I will move up to a real gas shielded product for future projects. If I can not keep from producing crap, I will give up on welding, having invested little in the attempt clay On Jun 5, 2015, at 3:28 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes wrote: Unless you use shielding gas you will be unhappy with your results. I promise! Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2015, at 4:33 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The wire is garbage, but it came free with the welder. May as well burn through it. setting up feed speed is hit and miss for now. It does not want to feed as slowly as the graph inside says I need it. There are two amperage speeds. Lots and not that much. I could not get much speed or heat to get a good bead clay On Jun 5, 2015, at 1:12 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: clay wrote: I could not get a decent bead using the PC carcasses and was getting a bunch of blow through. Thin sheet metal and gasless wirefeed is pretty tough. Set the wire feed and amperage low. And get some good wire. The HF wire is junk. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone heard anything from Rusty?
I think he’s dead - like Jabba. Dan On Jun 6, 2015, at 1:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: No Sent from my iPhone On Jun 6, 2015, at 12:24 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I sent an email to Rusty at rustycull...@gmail.com in early May and have heard nothing back. Has anyone heard anything from him lately? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should Mao Buy It...
True. Still farther than 125 miles from Elkhart or South Bend. Dan On Jun 6, 2015, at 1:22 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 10:49:27 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Crystal Lake is light years from Northern Indiana. it’s northwest of Chicago almost to the WI border. Closer to the Doobie Brothers. Certainly not compared to Santa Fe, New Mexico. And now that I'm driving 125 miles per day attending classes in Albuquerque ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts
I don't recall you saying. Is the welder you got 110 volt.. or 220 volt? You will find 110 volt wire feeds struggle to hold a stable arc thus have larger variation in the weld puddle temp and size.. With experience, the welder can adjust his handling of the weld to compensate.. some.. but he will always be behind the curve a little. On thicker material, it won't be so apparent.. as you go to thin sheet metal that lead / lag in arc stability and weld puddle temp becomes more critical.. Yes, you can blame it on the machine in that instance. It will preform more acceptably using the spot weld tecnique than trying to run a continous bead because the shorter heat cycle will be more within it's capabilities. Adapt and Overcome... On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 9:53 AM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If I can make welds that look and perform well enough with this garbage unit, I will move up to a real gas shielded product for future projects. If I can not keep from producing crap, I will give up on welding, having invested little in the attempt clay On Jun 5, 2015, at 3:28 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes wrote: Unless you use shielding gas you will be unhappy with your results. I promise! Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2015, at 4:33 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The wire is garbage, but it came free with the welder. May as well burn through it. setting up feed speed is hit and miss for now. It does not want to feed as slowly as the graph inside says I need it. There are two amperage speeds. Lots and not that much. I could not get much speed or heat to get a good bead clay On Jun 5, 2015, at 1:12 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: clay wrote: I could not get a decent bead using the PC carcasses and was getting a bunch of blow through. Thin sheet metal and gasless wirefeed is pretty tough. Set the wire feed and amperage low. And get some good wire. The HF wire is junk. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com