Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts

2015-06-06 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
I didn't know that about 110V machines. My welder is 110 and I make perfect 
butt welds on sheet metal but now I'm interested in trying a 220 machine.

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 On Jun 6, 2015, at 2:06 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I don't recall you saying. Is the welder you got 110 volt.. or 220 volt?
 
 You will find 110 volt wire feeds struggle to hold a stable arc thus have
 larger variation in the weld puddle temp and size.. With experience, the
 welder can adjust his handling of the weld to compensate.. some.. but he
 will always be behind the curve a little.
 
 On thicker material, it won't be so apparent.. as you go to thin sheet
 metal that lead / lag in arc stability and weld puddle temp becomes more
 critical..
 
 Yes, you can blame it on the machine in that instance. It will preform
 more acceptably using the spot weld tecnique than trying to run a continous
 bead because the shorter heat cycle will be more within it's capabilities.
 
 Adapt and Overcome...
 On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 9:53 AM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 If I can make welds that look and perform well enough with this garbage
 unit, I will move up to a real gas shielded product for future projects.
 If I can not keep from producing crap, I will give up on welding, having
 invested little in the attempt
 
 clay
 
 
 On Jun 5, 2015, at 3:28 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes wrote:
 
 Unless you use shielding gas you will be unhappy with your results. I
 promise!
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 5, 2015, at 4:33 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 The wire is garbage, but it came free with the welder. May as well burn
 through it.
 
 setting up feed speed is hit and miss for now.  It does not want to
 feed as slowly as the graph inside says I need it.  There are two amperage
 speeds.  Lots and not that much.  I could not get much speed or heat to get
 a good bead
 
 clay
 
 On Jun 5, 2015, at 1:12 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote:
 
 clay wrote:
 
 I could not get a decent bead using the PC carcasses and was
 getting a bunch of blow through.
 
 Thin sheet metal and gasless wirefeed is pretty tough.  Set
 the wire feed and amperage low.  And get some good wire.  The
 HF wire is junk.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Kaleb!! - a Match for your Euro W126!

2015-06-06 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes
Hmmm.  I just happen to be in Orlando on a layover…


 On Jun 6, 2015, at 1:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Well when a new one costs the same as a new one from 20-30 years ago that 
 should speak volumes 
 
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 On Jun 6, 2015, at 12:07 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I drove #1 boy's 300SE the other day.  I am truly impressed by the fit and 
 finish compared the the w220.  The w140 is just the apex of luxury and 
 comfort.  The driver seat feels like you are sitting you your granddad's 
 favorite chair when you were a kid.  Big, fully supportive and expensive.  
 The full Pullman experience.  The S430 is a korean car in contrast.  Plastic 
 that just cracks and fails if you look at it.  Leather is paper thin and of 
 lesser quality than what was used in the E300D.
 
 
 clay 
 
 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately  well tailored chap
 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
 POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Jun 5, 2015, at 5:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 
 I would rather jump on this:
 
 http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/5060315514.html
 
 This is the W140 I was going to look at but didn’t.  There’s got to be 
 something fishy going on here, as if the car was as described it should 
 have sold a long time ago.
 
 If he gets down to $2500 by the end of next week I’ll buy it.
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Jun 5, 2015, at 8:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 You should jump on that, key should be easy to get
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 5, 2015, at 7:35 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Just find the keys!
 
 http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/5060434994.html
 
 Dan
 
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Re: [MBZ] Transmission Toast?

2015-06-06 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I agree, but getting out the pedal set was a royal pain.  I am not 
sure I can contort enough to get the new pedal set in.  The rest of 
it is pretty straightforward.


One other thing I am considering is a 82-83 trans with the big box 
doohicky that sits on the side between the IP and the oelfilter. 
That box replaces the vacuum valve that sits on top of the valve 
cover.


If you want to come through and donate some kids' time to RR the 
pedal set and master cyl, id be happy!  We can all go to Hickory 
Park...




  Curly wrote:
 
  I guess it is about time to get out the 4 speed and do the
  manual conversion.

That's my idea of how to repair an automatic transmission!
I've never actually done it, though...


 If I remember correctly, the 240D flywheel is balanced
 separately from the shaft, so all I need to do is swap
 flywheels to get started. (and buy a pilot bearing)


That's what I recall.

I have also read of folks who used the 4 cyl flywheel for a 5
cyl car and it worked ok


Yeah, I put the OM621 flywheel on the OM616 in the 200D 2.4.  It had 
a big counterbalance on it.  I ground off the counterbalance and 
balanced the flywheel on a tire spin balance machine.  Its been 17 
years now and still ok, but not much use since 2007.  That was over a 
long weekend, and no access to machine shops.  I did have access to 
the tire balance machine.  A guy had agreed to sell me a flywheel but 
when I went to get it, he decided he didn't want to sell it.  He only 
had 20 some parts cars.  A miniature Kaleb.


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Re: [MBZ] Anyone heard anything from Rusty?

2015-06-06 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
‎Craig writes:

 I think he’s dead - like Jabba.

Really? Both of them died?

Or just dead to the virtual world?


Dead the virtual world of this list and Banned at least. Very much alive in the 
real world, I think. I have not heard from Rusty in a LONG Time. Jabba is alive 
in the virtual world of Facebook. 

Mao needs to join Facebook...

Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone heard anything from Rusty?

2015-06-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Both, I think.

Dan I’m not dead yet


 On Jun 6, 2015, at 3:30 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 13:48:14 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I think he’s dead - like Jabba.
 
 Really? Both of them died?
 
 Or just dead to the virtual world?
 
 
 Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone heard anything from Rusty?

2015-06-06 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
‎Dan I’m not dead yet

http://youtu.be/mb2frZOA1Fw

Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] tractor

2015-06-06 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Mine is a DK45s, 2006 model.  It's the model before the current DKxxSE
models.  Dealer access is important, especially with a new (i.e in warranty)
machine.  Recommend you scan posts on the Kioti owner/operator section of
Tractor By Net (http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kioti-owning-operating/),
maybe even solicit advice from other CK owners.  WRT size, many owners
traded up to a bigger tractor after using a smaller one.  The main advantage
of smaller machines is maneuvering in tight quarters (like in the woods).
In the final analysis, the right size depends on what you need to do with
the tractor.  About that backhoe, you may get a better deal if you but it at
the same time as the tractor.

 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt
 Raymond via Mercedes
 Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2015 12:45 AM
 To: Diesel List
 Cc: Curt Raymond
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] tractor
 
 Which Kioti do you have? I'm leaning toward the CK27. I'm taking the
advice to
 go oversized and not get the 20. I don't think we'll do a backhoe but you
never
 know.
 
 I like that there's a dealer near camp and one near my house. I'm kind of
 thinking I'd keep it at my place for the summer. Probably won't get more
than
 150 hours a year either way...
 
 
 Curt
 
 
 
 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
 
 From:Scott Ritchey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Date:Fri, Jun
 5, 2015 at 11:34 PM
 Subject:Re: [MBZ] tractor
 
 If you use it frequently, you won't regret getting a real pallet fork with
a quick-
 attach interface.  My loader has the skid-steer quick attach interface but
I
 think John Deere has their own version of something similar.  The
quick-attach
 makes changing buckets, forks, etc. very fast and easy.
 
 By the way, there is an aftermarket grease gun coupler called LocknLube,
 which I highly recommend (available from Amazon and others).  It's
overpriced
 ($30) but worth it.  All the grease goes into the fitting.  On my Kioti,
the loader
 gets greased every 10 hours, the mower every 20, and everything else every
50
 hours; so a good coupler saves a little grease and a lot of mess.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
  Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 10:47 PM
 
  I'm thinking I'm going to get that more expensive style I sent that
 replaces the
  bucket. I noticed they have a bunch of different versions of that
 depending on
  what you want doz
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
   On Jun 5, 2015, at 9:44 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
  
   The clamp-on forks are useful but with two drawbacks:  (1) you can't
   see what you are doing when the bucket blocks your view and (2) you
   will bend the bucket if you overload them (the loader is stronger
   than the lip of the bucket).
  
   Still they are quite useful for the money.  I got a set just to
   unload palletized deliveries to my farm.  The driver just pulls off
   the road, moves the pallet to the back of the truck with his pallet
   jack, and I slip the forks under he pallet to unload.  You may want
   back ballast (like a mower or box blade) to lift heavier stuff with
the loader.
   For several reasons, you don't want the back wheels to leave the
ground.
  
   While visiting my brother-in-law's farm in Virginia, he introduced
   me to a new term:  tractor envy.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
   Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
   Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 9:47 PM
   To: Mercedes Discussion List
   Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin
   Subject: [MBZ] tractor
  
   I think this tractor is one of the best things since sliced bread.
   Today
   at old okie
   acres I used it to load up a HUGE tree that blew down that I cut up.
   Later at
   home I used it to move 124 around. While the FEL wont lift the
   front of a
   124
   off the ground, it will lift it up enough then I can push it to
   where I
   want.  I
   managed to screw up the already broken front bumper air dam a
   little more with the front bucket.  So I am now thinking about
   buying some bucket
   forks
   which I could use to load engines that I am fixing to start moving,
   and
   when
   moving cars can get the forks up under front of the car and lift.
  
   I am looking at these clamp on type like this which are cheap:
  
   http://www.amazon.com/Pallet-bucket-loaders-tractors-
   steers/dp/B002ITHNWY/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8qid=1433555093sr=8-
   4keywords=bucket+forks
  
   But thinking I should pony up more money and get this setup, which
   the bucket detaches from the FEL and you attach this, looks like it
   would work
   a
   lot better
  
   http://www.amazon.com/Titan-Pallet-Attachment-Deere-
   Loaders/dp/B00A1D103W/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8qid=1433555181sr=8-
   13keywords=bucket+forks
  
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Re: [MBZ] OT another sort of metal working question

2015-06-06 Thread LarryT via Mercedes
Ya'll probably know this but when working with lead - melting it, etc - 
be very careful of the fumes - they are toxic and can cause liver and 
other damage...


LarryT
91 300D

On 6/5/2015 11:32 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

JB Weld was my thought as well - but use it instead of the lead, not to
seal the end before pouring lead.

On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 5:43 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:


Jb weld?






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[MBZ] Transmission Toast?

2015-06-06 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
the 81 240D (auto) will slip some in high gear if you try to 
accelerate hard.  I am thinking the auto transmission is toast. 
Anyone had this experience before.  It is the same as a worn out 
clutch in a manual trans car when it slips in  the highest gear in 
acceleration.


Unfortunately it is the one year only transmission.  no cable.

I guess it is about time to get out the 4 speed and do the manual conversion.

If I remember correctly, the 240D flywheel is balanced separately 
from the shaft, so all I need to do is swap flywheels to get started. 
(and buy a pilot bearing)


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Re: [MBZ] Kaleb!! - a Match for your Euro W126!

2015-06-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Yeah, I’m not sure about that.  Looks like he painted the wheels a couple of 
weeks ago, as it used to have the stock silver color on them.  Not sure what 
the seller was thinking, but it doesn’t add to the look of the car in my 
opinion.

Dan


 On Jun 5, 2015, at 10:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Looks nice but what's the deal with the wheels? I thought something was fishy 
 with that 600 which is why I did not jump on it but As it turned out it may 
 have been a good deal after all.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 5, 2015, at 7:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 I would rather jump on this:
 
 http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/5060315514.html
 
 This is the W140 I was going to look at but didn’t.  There’s got to be 
 something fishy going on here, as if the car was as described it should have 
 sold a long time ago.
 
 If he gets down to $2500 by the end of next week I’ll buy it.
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Jun 5, 2015, at 8:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 You should jump on that, key should be easy to get
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 5, 2015, at 7:35 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Just find the keys!
 
 http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/5060434994.html
 
 Dan
 
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Re: [MBZ] tractor

2015-06-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
That fits with other advice I've gotten. I've also read to go up on power with 
a hydro tractor which is why I'm thinking the 27 instead of the 20. Smaller 
size is important to us for mowing around trees.

I'm thinking maybe loader backhoe and bush hog but I could probably give up the 
backhoe.

Curt

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Re: [MBZ] 124 front end knock/click

2015-06-06 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

Yes,  I had the top bolt for a new strut (no more double nuts) loosen on a 124.

It may be time for struts and bearings also.


Can the top strut mounts be a source of play, and produce a 
knock/click?  If I back up and brake, then go forward and brake 
(while parking, for instance), I get a distinct single knock.


I also have play when pulling/pushing on the top of each front 
wheel, but no play at the 9  3 o'clock position.


New: inner bushings, sway bar bushings, drag link and right tie rod 
assembly, ball joints.


I think the struts and mounts haven't been replaced since I bought the car.
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300


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Re: [MBZ] 124 front end knock/click

2015-06-06 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
I think the struts and strut mounts have at least 100k miles if not more, I 
just reviewed my log for the car ('95 sedan) and I haven't replaced either of 
those.

Front bearings were serviced a couple years ago.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On June 6, 2015 8:41:27 AM EDT, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
Yes,  I had the top bolt for a new strut (no more double nuts) loosen
on a 124.

It may be time for struts and bearings also.



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[MBZ] 124 front end knock/click

2015-06-06 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Can the top strut mounts be a source of play, and produce a knock/click?  If I 
back up and brake, then go forward and brake (while parking, for instance), I 
get a distinct single knock.

I also have play when pulling/pushing on the top of each front wheel, but no 
play at the 9  3 o'clock position.

New: inner bushings, sway bar bushings, drag link and right tie rod assembly, 
ball joints.

I think the struts and mounts haven't been replaced since I bought the car.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Transmission Toast?

2015-06-06 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
I've never heard that.  I would have a machine shop match-balance the old 
driven plate to the new flywheel, be sure to mark clock orientation on crank, 
old plate and new flywheel.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On June 6, 2015 8:38:23 AM EDT, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

If I remember correctly, the 240D flywheel is balanced separately 
from the shaft, so all I need to do is swap flywheels to get started. 
(and buy a pilot bearing)



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[MBZ] Should Mao Buy It...

2015-06-06 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Then CHANGE YOUR FUSES?‎

http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/5035276031.html

Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] OT another sort of metal working question

2015-06-06 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
These last few days I drove up to DC from SC, collected the boy and his 
impedimenta, and hauled it all up to Providence RI then drove back.  It 
has been some time since I have been up that way, most everything from 
DC north, hell, Richmond (the capital of the Confederacy) north is 
pretty much intolerable, even VA has become a total nanny state (and my 
wife's liberal cousin is gubna now). Traffic is horrible, the roads are 
beat to hell, expensive tolls every 3 miles, people are rude and 
inconsiderate and discourteous, weather was not pleasant...  I got my 
fill.  I tell you what, when I crossed back into SC at SOTB, even though 
the roads here are beat to hell too, I was Very Happy.  And a gallon of 
gas was $0.30 cheaper (which is why the roads here are beat to hell, but 
whatever...).


Time to go throw some ribs on the smoke...

--R


On 6/6/15 11:19 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Hahahahahha you think?

Ok, OK.. so I have both OCD and ADD ... Everything has to be EXACTLY
perfect... but only for a little while...

I've actually come to accept that Andrew and I will never agree.  It's OK,
I can respect that. It is just environmental damage from having to live in
the DC climate.

On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 8:12 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


Andrew would disagree

--R



On 6/6/15 11:04 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:


I've been melting and recasting wheel weight lead for the last 35 years
and
making lead shot for skeet shooting reloads, and lead bullets. Likely have
handled several tons over the years. No ill effects to date.



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Re: [MBZ] S430/W220 Fleece Filter - ???

2015-06-06 Thread clay via Mercedes
Turned to dust and tossed into the wind

clay

On Jun 5, 2015, at 3:24 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

 OK, so this is the first one of these fleece filters I've ever used.  I see 
 the little graphic with the filter about how it's supposed to be positioned 
 on the long plastic tube, but what in the heck are all the O rings for 
 that come with it??
 
 I'm sure t will make sense when I pull the old one out, but I want to be 
 sureŠ.
 
 Dan
 
 W'ere's Woger w'en we need im?
 
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Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts

2015-06-06 Thread clay via Mercedes
The attempt yesterday was on uncleaned metal.  The disk brake was much better, 
as it was only rusty, which I brushed off.  I will use a grinder or wire wheel 
to clean up future training attempts.

clay

On Jun 5, 2015, at 3:42 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

 PC boxes are most likely clad with galvanize material. Galvanizing requires
 the base metal be coated with Zinc compounds which can and WILL contaminate
 your weld, thus welds that look like bird droppings. The job of rod flux is
 to carry away the contaminates in the weld puddle, but the flux core wire
 from China doesn't have enough volume of flux to combat zinc contamination
 of the weld puddle.. in fact.. if you were using gas, you would have to
 crank up the flow rate to over come it.
 
 The fact that you are having splatter and slag issues should have keyed me
 to tell you the zinc boiling off is likely the cause. I overlooked that..
 my apology.
 
 Try a welding a piece of the same material you have dressed with a grinding
 wheel to clean steel.. see if it doesn't give you a much better weld. I
 will lay bets it does.
 
 Go to your local steel supplier and pick up some end cut scraps for
 practice, in MILD STEEL only.. then run a few passes.. look at the
 difference.. you should see immediate good results.. even with crappy
 Chinese flux wire from Harbor Fright.
 
 A good part of welding is knowing the metalurgy of the metal you are
 joining.. and how it affects the weld.
 
 
 On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 Unless you use shielding gas you will be unhappy with your results. I
 promise!
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 5, 2015, at 4:33 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 The wire is garbage, but it came free with the welder. May as well burn
 through it.
 
 setting up feed speed is hit and miss for now.  It does not want to feed
 as slowly as the graph inside says I need it.  There are two amperage
 speeds.  Lots and not that much.  I could not get much speed or heat to get
 a good bead
 
 clay
 
 On Jun 5, 2015, at 1:12 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote:
 
 clay wrote:
 
 I could not get a decent bead using the PC carcasses and was
 getting a bunch of blow through.
 
 Thin sheet metal and gasless wirefeed is pretty tough.  Set
 the wire feed and amperage low.  And get some good wire.  The
 HF wire is junk.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts

2015-06-06 Thread clay via Mercedes
I got a really nice Carhart jacket for $2 at goodwill.  Heavy denim that the 
gloves fit well over.   There was also a nice heavy cotton child's blanket from 
back in the day.  I will be stitching two layers of fiberglass to it so I have 
a welding blanket.  Maybe use it as a bib if I am welding at waist level.

clay

On Jun 5, 2015, at 6:25 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

 I would imagine the HF unit is basically a Chinese copy of my Lincoln 
 HandyMig. Mine has provision for shielding gas but I've never set it up, the 
 bottle would be decidedly un-handy, I'd need a cart for the thing, blah 
 blah.I think I paid $250 or so for mine and its been worth the money. I burn 
 through about 5# of wire a year. I've also been lucky to have some time on 
 multi-thousand dollar Miller machines with shielding gas and while those are 
 fantastic I'm not dissatisfied with my machine.The trick is that I tend to 
 end up using much more wire speed than I think I need and counter-intuitively 
 sheet metal usually requires more wire speed. When welding heavier stuff I 
 end up using the same wire speed or a little less, I turn the heat up and 
 just move slower which gives the penetration needed. This was hard for me to 
 learn after I'd taught myself how to do sheet metal.
 Theres definitely an art to it and since I haven't welded in 3 or 4 months I 
 know the next time I try it'll take me an hour or so to get the feel back. I 
 find for me moving the torch in little circles is the key to preventing burn 
 through. I generally push the puddle although I've had some success dragging 
 it, mostly when welding upside down like on a car floor.
 Remember that the coating on the wire will absorb water. A new spool of wire 
 is so nice which is why I only buy 5# at a time. My machine will handle a 20# 
 spool but it'd be gross by the time I got to the end. I *think* you could dry 
 it back out if you put it in a box with an incandescent bulb for a couple 
 hours but I've yet to try it...
 After I burned (and scarred) the inside of my elbow last fall Angie bought me 
 a welding shirt that has leather arms. Its not the height of fashion buts 
 nice to have that safety.
 
 -Curt
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 Cc: Dimitri dsereta...@yahoo.com 
 Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 6:28 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts
 
 Unless you use shielding gas you will be unhappy with your results. I promise!
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 5, 2015, at 4:33 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 The wire is garbage, but it came free with the welder. May as well burn 
 through it.
 
 setting up feed speed is hit and miss for now.  It does not want to feed as 
 slowly as the graph inside says I need it.  There are two amperage speeds.  
 Lots and not that much.  I could not get much speed or heat to get a good 
 bead
 
 clay
 
 On Jun 5, 2015, at 1:12 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote:
 
 clay wrote:
 
 I could not get a decent bead using the PC carcasses and was
 getting a bunch of blow through.
 
 Thin sheet metal and gasless wirefeed is pretty tough.  Set
 the wire feed and amperage low.  And get some good wire.  The
 HF wire is junk.  
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Transmission Toast?

2015-06-06 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 08:57:52 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I've never heard that.  I would have a machine shop match-balance the
 old driven plate to the new flywheel, be sure to mark clock orientation
 on crank, old plate and new flywheel.

Max is correct. The shop manual shows a procedure for transferring the
balance of an old flywheel to a new flywheel. I did not do that in my
conversion for various reasons and was fortunate things worked out.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Kaleb!! - a Match for your Euro W126!

2015-06-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Well when a new one costs the same as a new one from 20-30 years ago that 
should speak volumes 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 6, 2015, at 12:07 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I drove #1 boy's 300SE the other day.  I am truly impressed by the fit and 
 finish compared the the w220.  The w140 is just the apex of luxury and 
 comfort.  The driver seat feels like you are sitting you your granddad's 
 favorite chair when you were a kid.  Big, fully supportive and expensive.  
 The full Pullman experience.  The S430 is a korean car in contrast.  Plastic 
 that just cracks and fails if you look at it.  Leather is paper thin and of 
 lesser quality than what was used in the E300D.
 
 
 clay 
 
 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately  well tailored chap
 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
 POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Jun 5, 2015, at 5:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 
 I would rather jump on this:
 
 http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/5060315514.html
 
 This is the W140 I was going to look at but didn’t.  There’s got to be 
 something fishy going on here, as if the car was as described it should have 
 sold a long time ago.
 
 If he gets down to $2500 by the end of next week I’ll buy it.
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Jun 5, 2015, at 8:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 You should jump on that, key should be easy to get
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 5, 2015, at 7:35 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Just find the keys!
 
 http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/5060434994.html
 
 Dan
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT another sort of metal working question

2015-06-06 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Hahahahahha you think?

Ok, OK.. so I have both OCD and ADD ... Everything has to be EXACTLY
perfect... but only for a little while...

I've actually come to accept that Andrew and I will never agree.  It's OK,
I can respect that. It is just environmental damage from having to live in
the DC climate.

On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 8:12 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Andrew would disagree

 --R



 On 6/6/15 11:04 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

 I've been melting and recasting wheel weight lead for the last 35 years
 and
 making lead shot for skeet shooting reloads, and lead bullets. Likely have
 handled several tons over the years. No ill effects to date.



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Re: [MBZ] Transmission Toast?

2015-06-06 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
 Curly wrote:
 
 I guess it is about time to get out the 4 speed and do the
 manual conversion.

That's my idea of how to repair an automatic transmission!
I've never actually done it, though...

 If I remember correctly, the 240D flywheel is balanced
 separately from the shaft, so all I need to do is swap
 flywheels to get started. (and buy a pilot bearing)

That's what I recall.

I have also read of folks who used the 4 cyl flywheel for a 5
cyl car and it worked ok

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Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts

2015-06-06 Thread clay via Mercedes
If I can make welds that look and perform well enough with this garbage unit, I 
will move up to a real gas shielded product for future projects.  If I can not 
keep from producing crap, I will give up on welding, having invested little in 
the attempt

clay


On Jun 5, 2015, at 3:28 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes wrote:

 Unless you use shielding gas you will be unhappy with your results. I promise!
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 5, 2015, at 4:33 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 The wire is garbage, but it came free with the welder. May as well burn 
 through it.
 
 setting up feed speed is hit and miss for now.  It does not want to feed as 
 slowly as the graph inside says I need it.  There are two amperage speeds.  
 Lots and not that much.  I could not get much speed or heat to get a good 
 bead
 
 clay
 
 On Jun 5, 2015, at 1:12 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote:
 
 clay wrote:
 
 I could not get a decent bead using the PC carcasses and was
 getting a bunch of blow through.
 
 Thin sheet metal and gasless wirefeed is pretty tough.  Set
 the wire feed and amperage low.  And get some good wire.  The
 HF wire is junk.  
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Should Mao Buy It...

2015-06-06 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 6 Jun 2015 09:25:08 -0500 Rick Knoble via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Then CHANGE YOUR FUSES?‎
 
 http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/5035276031.html

YES! What a deal! It's worth more than $500 as scrap. If we were now in
Indiana, I jump all over it!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Should Mao Buy It...

2015-06-06 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

Then CHANGE YOUR FUSES?‎

http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/5035276031.html


Dan should be expert in S500 cranks then dies by now.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Should Mao Buy It...

2015-06-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Crystal Lake is light years from Northern Indiana.  it’s northwest of Chicago 
almost to the WI border.  Closer to the Doobie Brothers.

Dan


 On Jun 6, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 On Sat, 6 Jun 2015 09:25:08 -0500 Rick Knoble via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Then CHANGE YOUR FUSES?‎
 
 http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/5035276031.html
 
 YES! What a deal! It's worth more than $500 as scrap. If we were now in
 Indiana, I jump all over it!
 
 
 Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT another sort of metal working question

2015-06-06 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Yes, however, it's a slow death and you go insane first. Since you drive
and work on antique [by modern standards] Mercedes, no one will notice. ;))

Work in a ventilated area, use a clay dam to keep the lead from pouring
through, and only heat the lead pot to the liquid lead pour point, preheat
the joint to get better contact adheasion. You should be good to go.

I've been melting and recasting wheel weight lead for the last 35 years and
making lead shot for skeet shooting reloads, and lead bullets. Likely have
handled several tons over the years. No ill effects to date. I do however
resist the urge to ever lick lead bars or breath the fumes. To date, I can
report I've been healthy.
I doubt you can ingest enough lead in a single use event to cause a medical
issue.. unless, of course, you live in California, where every substance
touched by man has some ill effect.

On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 4:49 AM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 Ya'll probably know this but when working with lead - melting it, etc - be
 very careful of the fumes - they are toxic and can cause liver and other
 damage...

 LarryT
 91 300D

 On 6/5/2015 11:32 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

 JB Weld was my thought as well - but use it instead of the lead, not to
 seal the end before pouring lead.

 On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 5:43 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
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  Jb weld?




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Re: [MBZ] OT another sort of metal working question

2015-06-06 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

Andrew would disagree

--R



On 6/6/15 11:04 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

I've been melting and recasting wheel weight lead for the last 35 years and
making lead shot for skeet shooting reloads, and lead bullets. Likely have
handled several tons over the years. No ill effects to date.



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Re: [MBZ] Transmission Toast?

2015-06-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I have 1 more complete 4 speed manny parts car

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 6, 2015, at 10:43 AM, fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Curly wrote:
 
 I guess it is about time to get out the 4 speed and do the
 manual conversion.
 
 That's my idea of how to repair an automatic transmission!
 I've never actually done it, though...
 
 If I remember correctly, the 240D flywheel is balanced
 separately from the shaft, so all I need to do is swap
 flywheels to get started. (and buy a pilot bearing)
 
 That's what I recall.
 
 I have also read of folks who used the 4 cyl flywheel for a 5
 cyl car and it worked ok
 
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Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts

2015-06-06 Thread clay via Mercedes
I am outside and will set up a fan to assist in moving toxins

clay

On Jun 5, 2015, at 3:53 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

 Not just sick.. but dead. .. welding galvanized metal in an enclosed space
 will kill you.
 The antidote, however is to drink milk... being lactose intollerent isn't
 going to help you there.. ha..
 
 Remove the victim to fresh air quickly and vent the area of toxic gases. Of
 course.
 
 On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I'm not a welder, but I understand that welding galvanised steel produces
 fumes that can make you sick?
 --
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 Charleston SC
 '87 300TD
 '95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Kaleb!! - a Match for your Euro W126!

2015-06-06 Thread clay via Mercedes
I drove #1 boy's 300SE the other day.  I am truly impressed by the fit and 
finish compared the the w220.  The w140 is just the apex of luxury and comfort. 
 The driver seat feels like you are sitting you your granddad's favorite chair 
when you were a kid.  Big, fully supportive and expensive.  The full Pullman 
experience.  The S430 is a korean car in contrast.  Plastic that just cracks 
and fails if you look at it.  Leather is paper thin and of lesser quality than 
what was used in the E300D.


clay 

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately  well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








On Jun 5, 2015, at 5:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

 I would rather jump on this:
 
 http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/5060315514.html
 
 This is the W140 I was going to look at but didn’t.  There’s got to be 
 something fishy going on here, as if the car was as described it should have 
 sold a long time ago.
 
 If he gets down to $2500 by the end of next week I’ll buy it.
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Jun 5, 2015, at 8:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 You should jump on that, key should be easy to get
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 5, 2015, at 7:35 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 Just find the keys!
 
 http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/5060434994.html
 
 Dan
 
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Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts

2015-06-06 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 6 Jun 2015 09:53:53 -0700 clay via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 If I can make welds that look and perform well enough with this garbage
 unit, I will move up to a real gas shielded product for future
 projects.  If I can not keep from producing crap, I will give up on
 welding, having invested little in the attempt

But if the garbage unit and wire are what is causing you to make welds
that do not look and perform well enough, you would have given up on
welding needlessly.

A spool of good wire is not that expensive ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Used 1982 Mercedes-Benz 300 for Sale in Raleigh, Durham, Cary NC 27511, 27513, 27519, 27502, 27601, 27605, 27608, 2 Madsen Motor Company Inc.

2015-06-06 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Weis nichts. Looks nice.  No more green for me.
On Jun 6, 2015 6:16 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 63 k?  Vraiment?

 Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] Used 1982 Mercedes-Benz 300 for Sale in Raleigh, Durham, Cary NC 27511, 27513, 27519, 27502, 27601, 27605, 27608, 2 Madsen Motor Company Inc.

2015-06-06 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

63 k?  Vraiment?

Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] Used 1982 Mercedes-Benz 300 for Sale in Raleigh, Durham, Cary NC 27511, 27513, 27519, 27502, 27601, 27605, 27608, 2 Madsen Motor Company Inc.

2015-06-06 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Shows well in the pictures, yet, it is a repaint, dealer owned and
prepped..

Interior shows well also.. however, at that price, it should. I'm seeing a
$4000 car with a $4000 dollar paint and dealer prep job..

Pass.. tyvm.

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Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts

2015-06-06 Thread clay via Mercedes
See, I am still on the upward curve

clay

On Jun 6, 2015, at 12:51 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes wrote:

 You mean tack welds. Spot welds are made by a dedicated spot welder.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 6, 2015, at 3:31 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 It is the crap 90 amp 115v cheapo unit.  I want to get comfortable with it 
 making beads, but intend to mostly spot weld the panels for the floor.  With 
 enough spots, I figure I can then do mini beads to link them.
 
 
 clay 
 
 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately  well tailored chap
 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
 POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Jun 6, 2015, at 11:06 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
 
 I don't recall you saying. Is the welder you got 110 volt.. or 220 volt?
 
 You will find 110 volt wire feeds struggle to hold a stable arc thus have
 larger variation in the weld puddle temp and size.. With experience, the
 welder can adjust his handling of the weld to compensate.. some.. but he
 will always be behind the curve a little.
 
 On thicker material, it won't be so apparent.. as you go to thin sheet
 metal that lead / lag in arc stability and weld puddle temp becomes more
 critical..
 
 Yes, you can blame it on the machine in that instance. It will preform
 more acceptably using the spot weld tecnique than trying to run a continous
 bead because the shorter heat cycle will be more within it's capabilities.
 
 Adapt and Overcome...
 On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 9:53 AM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 If I can make welds that look and perform well enough with this garbage
 unit, I will move up to a real gas shielded product for future projects.
 If I can not keep from producing crap, I will give up on welding, having
 invested little in the attempt
 
 clay
 
 
 On Jun 5, 2015, at 3:28 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes wrote:
 
 Unless you use shielding gas you will be unhappy with your results. I
 promise!
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 5, 2015, at 4:33 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 The wire is garbage, but it came free with the welder. May as well burn
 through it.
 
 setting up feed speed is hit and miss for now.  It does not want to
 feed as slowly as the graph inside says I need it.  There are two amperage
 speeds.  Lots and not that much.  I could not get much speed or heat to get
 a good bead
 
 clay
 
 On Jun 5, 2015, at 1:12 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote:
 
 clay wrote:
 
 I could not get a decent bead using the PC carcasses and was
 getting a bunch of blow through.
 
 Thin sheet metal and gasless wirefeed is pretty tough.  Set
 the wire feed and amperage low.  And get some good wire.  The
 HF wire is junk.
 
 
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[MBZ] Used 1982 Mercedes-Benz 300 for Sale in Raleigh, Durham, Cary NC 27511, 27513, 27519, 27502, 27601, 27605, 27608, 2 Madsen Motor Company Inc.

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Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts

2015-06-06 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I didn't know that about 110V machines. My welder is 110 and I make 
perfect butt welds on sheet metal but now I'm interested in trying a 
220 machine.


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Nicest welder I have ever used  was a huge old motor  (electric) 
generator generating DC to weld with.  I t weighed literally close to 
a ton.  With 6010 rods, it was terrific welding.  Some of the 70xx 
rods I was adequate with but I loved the 6010s with that motor gen.




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Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts

2015-06-06 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Using a shit welder will make you give up on welding. Spend $600 on 
a real welder and make good welds from day one. Been there done 
that. Trust me.


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The Master has spoken!

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Re: [MBZ] Should Mao Buy It...

2015-06-06 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 10:49:27 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Crystal Lake is light years from Northern Indiana.  it’s northwest of
 Chicago almost to the WI border.  Closer to the Doobie Brothers.

Certainly not compared to Santa Fe, New Mexico.

And now that I'm driving 125 miles per day attending classes in
Albuquerque ...


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Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts

2015-06-06 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

Don't waste your time on anything but clean metal.
Not 'til you have some experience, anyway.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts

2015-06-06 Thread clay via Mercedes
It is the crap 90 amp 115v cheapo unit.  I want to get comfortable with it 
making beads, but intend to mostly spot weld the panels for the floor.  With 
enough spots, I figure I can then do mini beads to link them.


clay 

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately  well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








On Jun 6, 2015, at 11:06 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

 I don't recall you saying. Is the welder you got 110 volt.. or 220 volt?
 
 You will find 110 volt wire feeds struggle to hold a stable arc thus have
 larger variation in the weld puddle temp and size.. With experience, the
 welder can adjust his handling of the weld to compensate.. some.. but he
 will always be behind the curve a little.
 
 On thicker material, it won't be so apparent.. as you go to thin sheet
 metal that lead / lag in arc stability and weld puddle temp becomes more
 critical..
 
 Yes, you can blame it on the machine in that instance. It will preform
 more acceptably using the spot weld tecnique than trying to run a continous
 bead because the shorter heat cycle will be more within it's capabilities.
 
 Adapt and Overcome...
 On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 9:53 AM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 If I can make welds that look and perform well enough with this garbage
 unit, I will move up to a real gas shielded product for future projects.
 If I can not keep from producing crap, I will give up on welding, having
 invested little in the attempt
 
 clay
 
 
 On Jun 5, 2015, at 3:28 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes wrote:
 
 Unless you use shielding gas you will be unhappy with your results. I
 promise!
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 5, 2015, at 4:33 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 The wire is garbage, but it came free with the welder. May as well burn
 through it.
 
 setting up feed speed is hit and miss for now.  It does not want to
 feed as slowly as the graph inside says I need it.  There are two amperage
 speeds.  Lots and not that much.  I could not get much speed or heat to get
 a good bead
 
 clay
 
 On Jun 5, 2015, at 1:12 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote:
 
 clay wrote:
 
 I could not get a decent bead using the PC carcasses and was
 getting a bunch of blow through.
 
 Thin sheet metal and gasless wirefeed is pretty tough.  Set
 the wire feed and amperage low.  And get some good wire.  The
 HF wire is junk.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone heard anything from Rusty?

2015-06-06 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 13:48:14 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
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 I think he’s dead - like Jabba.

Really? Both of them died?

Or just dead to the virtual world?


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Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts

2015-06-06 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
You mean tack welds. Spot welds are made by a dedicated spot welder.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 6, 2015, at 3:31 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 It is the crap 90 amp 115v cheapo unit.  I want to get comfortable with it 
 making beads, but intend to mostly spot weld the panels for the floor.  With 
 enough spots, I figure I can then do mini beads to link them.
 
 
 clay 
 
 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately  well tailored chap
 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
 POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Jun 6, 2015, at 11:06 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
 
 I don't recall you saying. Is the welder you got 110 volt.. or 220 volt?
 
 You will find 110 volt wire feeds struggle to hold a stable arc thus have
 larger variation in the weld puddle temp and size.. With experience, the
 welder can adjust his handling of the weld to compensate.. some.. but he
 will always be behind the curve a little.
 
 On thicker material, it won't be so apparent.. as you go to thin sheet
 metal that lead / lag in arc stability and weld puddle temp becomes more
 critical..
 
 Yes, you can blame it on the machine in that instance. It will preform
 more acceptably using the spot weld tecnique than trying to run a continous
 bead because the shorter heat cycle will be more within it's capabilities.
 
 Adapt and Overcome...
 On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 9:53 AM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 If I can make welds that look and perform well enough with this garbage
 unit, I will move up to a real gas shielded product for future projects.
 If I can not keep from producing crap, I will give up on welding, having
 invested little in the attempt
 
 clay
 
 
 On Jun 5, 2015, at 3:28 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes wrote:
 
 Unless you use shielding gas you will be unhappy with your results. I
 promise!
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 5, 2015, at 4:33 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 The wire is garbage, but it came free with the welder. May as well burn
 through it.
 
 setting up feed speed is hit and miss for now.  It does not want to
 feed as slowly as the graph inside says I need it.  There are two amperage
 speeds.  Lots and not that much.  I could not get much speed or heat to get
 a good bead
 
 clay
 
 On Jun 5, 2015, at 1:12 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote:
 
 clay wrote:
 
 I could not get a decent bead using the PC carcasses and was
 getting a bunch of blow through.
 
 Thin sheet metal and gasless wirefeed is pretty tough.  Set
 the wire feed and amperage low.  And get some good wire.  The
 HF wire is junk.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts

2015-06-06 Thread clay via Mercedes
I have all of 40 minutes into the training as of this moment.  I expect to have 
a few more hours and bits of metal under my belt by the end of next week.  If I 
am still making welds that look like something you find in a diaper, I will 
re-evaluate my competence.

clay

On Jun 6, 2015, at 10:20 AM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

 On Sat, 6 Jun 2015 09:53:53 -0700 clay via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 If I can make welds that look and perform well enough with this garbage
 unit, I will move up to a real gas shielded product for future
 projects.  If I can not keep from producing crap, I will give up on
 welding, having invested little in the attempt
 
 But if the garbage unit and wire are what is causing you to make welds
 that do not look and perform well enough, you would have given up on
 welding needlessly.
 
 A spool of good wire is not that expensive ...
 
 
 Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone heard anything from Rusty?

2015-06-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
No

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 On Jun 6, 2015, at 12:24 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I sent an email to Rusty at rustycull...@gmail.com in early May and have
 heard nothing back.
 
 Has anyone heard anything from him lately?
 
 
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[MBZ] Anyone heard anything from Rusty?

2015-06-06 Thread Craig via Mercedes
I sent an email to Rusty at rustycull...@gmail.com in early May and have
heard nothing back.

Has anyone heard anything from him lately?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts

2015-06-06 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
Using a shit welder will make you give up on welding. Spend $600 on a real 
welder and make good welds from day one. Been there done that. Trust me. 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 6, 2015, at 12:53 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 If I can make welds that look and perform well enough with this garbage unit, 
 I will move up to a real gas shielded product for future projects.  If I can 
 not keep from producing crap, I will give up on welding, having invested 
 little in the attempt
 
 clay
 
 
 On Jun 5, 2015, at 3:28 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes wrote:
 
 Unless you use shielding gas you will be unhappy with your results. I 
 promise!
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 5, 2015, at 4:33 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 The wire is garbage, but it came free with the welder. May as well burn 
 through it.
 
 setting up feed speed is hit and miss for now.  It does not want to feed as 
 slowly as the graph inside says I need it.  There are two amperage speeds.  
 Lots and not that much.  I could not get much speed or heat to get a good 
 bead
 
 clay
 
 On Jun 5, 2015, at 1:12 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote:
 
 clay wrote:
 
 I could not get a decent bead using the PC carcasses and was
 getting a bunch of blow through.
 
 Thin sheet metal and gasless wirefeed is pretty tough.  Set
 the wire feed and amperage low.  And get some good wire.  The
 HF wire is junk.  
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone heard anything from Rusty?

2015-06-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I think he’s dead - like Jabba.

Dan


 On Jun 6, 2015, at 1:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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 No
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 6, 2015, at 12:24 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 I sent an email to Rusty at rustycull...@gmail.com in early May and have
 heard nothing back.
 
 Has anyone heard anything from him lately?
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Should Mao Buy It...

2015-06-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
True.  Still farther than 125 miles from Elkhart or South Bend.

Dan


 On Jun 6, 2015, at 1:22 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 10:49:27 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Crystal Lake is light years from Northern Indiana.  it’s northwest of
 Chicago almost to the WI border.  Closer to the Doobie Brothers.
 
 Certainly not compared to Santa Fe, New Mexico.
 
 And now that I'm driving 125 miles per day attending classes in
 Albuquerque ...
 
 
 Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts

2015-06-06 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
I don't recall you saying. Is the welder you got 110 volt.. or 220 volt?

You will find 110 volt wire feeds struggle to hold a stable arc thus have
larger variation in the weld puddle temp and size.. With experience, the
welder can adjust his handling of the weld to compensate.. some.. but he
will always be behind the curve a little.

On thicker material, it won't be so apparent.. as you go to thin sheet
metal that lead / lag in arc stability and weld puddle temp becomes more
critical..

Yes, you can blame it on the machine in that instance. It will preform
more acceptably using the spot weld tecnique than trying to run a continous
bead because the shorter heat cycle will be more within it's capabilities.

Adapt and Overcome...
On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 9:53 AM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 If I can make welds that look and perform well enough with this garbage
 unit, I will move up to a real gas shielded product for future projects.
 If I can not keep from producing crap, I will give up on welding, having
 invested little in the attempt

 clay


 On Jun 5, 2015, at 3:28 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes wrote:

  Unless you use shielding gas you will be unhappy with your results. I
 promise!
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Jun 5, 2015, at 4:33 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
  The wire is garbage, but it came free with the welder. May as well burn
 through it.
 
  setting up feed speed is hit and miss for now.  It does not want to
 feed as slowly as the graph inside says I need it.  There are two amperage
 speeds.  Lots and not that much.  I could not get much speed or heat to get
 a good bead
 
  clay
 
  On Jun 5, 2015, at 1:12 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote:
 
  clay wrote:
 
  I could not get a decent bead using the PC carcasses and was
  getting a bunch of blow through.
 
  Thin sheet metal and gasless wirefeed is pretty tough.  Set
  the wire feed and amperage low.  And get some good wire.  The
  HF wire is junk.
 
 
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