[MBZ] Nokia screwed

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Some of y'all may remember I put nokia Entyre 2.0 on the dogde last 
oct.   Over the weekend, one of them went flat.   Seems if got a screw 
in it too close to the sidewall to be repaired.  So, I am out $100 plus 
mounting for a new tar.   Other than that, the first 5k miles or so has 
been ok.


Meanwhile, I put some green slime in it and it is holding.  I may just 
move it to the rear, and put the new one on the front when it comes in.  
It will be interesting to see if it makes 60-80k miles or not




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Re: [MBZ] Steering column boot Wuz: 240D window seals.

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 17 May 2018 18:46:29 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> yeah, my 240D needs a new boot on the steering column.   That must be 
> where the water came in while driving through torrential rain.
> 
> I am guessing the easiest way it to unbolt the steering gear from the 
> frame, then unhook the flexible coupling to the steering column, then 
> change the boot.
> 
> Anyone done that before?  Is there a better way?

Sorry, I can't help you; Kaleb has all my paper W123 manuals.


Craig

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[MBZ] Steering column boot Wuz: 240D window seals.

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

yeah, my 240D needs a new boot on the steering column.   That must be 
where the water came in while driving through torrential rain.


I am guessing the easiest way it to unbolt the steering gear from the 
frame, then unhook the flexible coupling to the steering column, then 
change the boot.


Anyone done that before?  Is there a better way?



Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

CHECK YOUR FIREWALL GROMMETS!





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[MBZ] Nuke up anyone? Nuke sale

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

They say this auction is for stuff from a Wisconsin Nuke plant, but the 
text says the stuff in in Ohio  WTF?   Geographically challenges hucksters?


Anyhow, some of you may want some of this stuff:

(usual disclaimers)

We are emailing to inform you that NRI Industrial Sales, LLC. is hosting a two day 
auction to liquidate the spare parts inventory of a nuclear plant. This online 
auction willend on May 29  &  30 at 10:00 AM  EST onwww.aucto.com. All material 
will be available for pick up in Delta, OH.

The auction will feature roughly 700 lots including bearings, controls, 
electrical, valves, motors, pumps, tool cabinets and much more. This is a great 
opportunity to purchase equipment at liquidation pricing.

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[MBZ] This is Pretty Cool

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

For you data geeks:

https://cargraph.com/usa/mercedes-benz/s500/1999

-D

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Re: [MBZ] ML350 alternator

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 17 May 2018 14:59:27 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I'm ordering it, but I'll still be surprised if it says Bosch - Made in
> United Kingdom on it when it gets here. 

I guess you (we) will see when it arrives.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Activating wireless service on CentOS 7 / MATE

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Craig wrote:

> So I finally put CentOS 7 on our laptop and then added MATE for a
> graphical user interface.
> 
> I have been using it with a hardwired Internet connection, but I
> now need to get it working with a wireless connection.
> 
> Any suggestions on how I do that?

I am not familiar with RedHat ways...

Try "ip link show", or "ifconfig -a"

That should show all the interfaces that the system knows about.
On Debian, the Wi-Fi will be listed as "wlan0", "wlan1" and the
wired "eth0", "eth1", etc.

If it's not listed, then it is probably missing the needed kernel
module.

If it is listed, then the tools I'm familiar with are iwlist,
iwconfig, wpa_supplicant, ifconfig (been replaced by "ip" in
systemd).

ifconfig wlan0 up

iwlist wlan0 scan

iwconfig wlan0 essid "My WiFi" mode managed 

ifconfig wlan0 192.168.1.1
   or
dhclient -v wlan0


There are GUI tools, but I can't give advise on any of them...

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[MBZ] SLK

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I looked at this SLK and it’s pretty nice and probably realistically priced. If 
I was excited for a summer toy I’d buy it. Looks well maintained though no 
records, belonged to the guy’s FIL who gave it to him when he left the area a 
few months ago. Guy has no real interest in it and with the stick his wife 
can’t drive it. It would be a pretty fun ride though, strong runner. 

If anyone wants another toy let me know. He has a coupla other lookers coming. 

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Re: [MBZ] ML350 alternator

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Lucas has reinvented itself!

On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 2:59 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I'm ordering it, but I'll still be surprised if it says Bosch - Made in
> United Kingdom on it when it gets here.
>
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] 1981 Mercedes 240 D sedan 4speed " RARE " - $3300 (LEXINGTON SC)

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

As I thought was standard.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On May 17, 2018 2:41 PM, "archer75--- via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> My '83 240D came with matching painted caps.
> Gerry
>
> > Bundts became stock between model years 82-83 on W123s, I believe.
> >
> > -D
> >
> > > On May 17, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Bundts were an extra cost option until the early 1980s, then became
> stock
> > > IIRC.
> > >
> > > On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Dwight Giles  >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> I am asking about stock wheels.
> > >>
> > >> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> > >> Wickford RI
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 11:07 AM, Andrew Strasfogel <
> astrasfo...@gmail.com
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Either works for me.
> > >>>
> > >>> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 5:18 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> >  Should a 240 have steelies & matching caps not bundts?
> > 
> >  Dwight Giles Jr.
> >  Wickford RI
> > 
> >  On May 16, 2018 4:23 PM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" <
> >  mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > > seems a little sketchy
> > >
> > > https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1981-mercedes-240-se
> > > dan/6580754272.html
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Re: [MBZ] ML350 alternator

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

I'm ordering it, but I'll still be surprised if it says Bosch - Made in United 
Kingdom on it when it gets here. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] ML350 alternator

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 17 May 2018 13:20:45 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
 wrote:

> The immediate cause of the failure seems to be a brush coming loose
> from its copper pigtail, but I don't think this thing is worth the cost
> of a new regulator. 
>
> So, it's $195-$40 rebate for a Bosch rebuild, $50 plus a couple hours'
> drive for a used one off a 15 year old C-class, or $125 for a brand new
> "Remy", for which Rock Auto gives this picture:

Hidden in the picture you attached is Rock Auto's description:


Bringing OE Experience to the Aftermarket

New Remy light duty alternators are made for the aftermarket with the
same precision as the best original equipment components. Designed to
fit perfectly and perform flawlessly, Remy rotating electrics are as
good - or better - than the parts they replace. Remy stakes their
experience with over 30 global OEM's on it.

Featuring Remy's patented winding technology, Remy's alternators boast
the lowest mass in the industry. By using patented technology, Remy has
decreased the footprint, refined the design and improved efficiency. And,
since weight drives fuel economy, these alternators are fuel-efficient as
well.

Features and Benefits Include:

  * The lowest noise on the market, making for a more peaceful ride.
  * Decreased fuel consumption and good environmental practices.
  * 100% new premium components - quality and performance you can count on
  * Manufactured to meet or exceed OE specifications - improved
reliability and increased durability in all conditions

Amperage120 Amps
Fan TypeInternal
New Or Remanufactured   New
One Wire CapableNo
Plug Clock Position 1:00
Pulley Belt TypeSerpentine
Pulley Groove Quantity  6
Pulley Included Yes
Regulator Type  Internal
Rotation Direction  Clockwise
Voltage 12.0 Volts
Alternate/OEM Part Number(s): 0111546402, 0111549102, 0124515056, 13884,
2542319B, 5097756AA, SG12B023

REMY Warranty Information:
Limited lifetime for noncommercial use.
12 months for commercial, industrial or off-road use
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Given that and the Bosch labeling in the picture you attached, it sounds
like a good part. And it will be delivered right to your door!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 1981 Mercedes 240 D sedan 4speed " RARE " - $3300 (LEXINGTON SC)

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

My '83 240D came with matching painted caps.
Gerry

> Bundts became stock between model years 82-83 on W123s, I believe.
> 
> -D
> 
> > On May 17, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Bundts were an extra cost option until the early 1980s, then became stock
> > IIRC.
> > 
> > On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Dwight Giles 
> > wrote:
> > 
> >> I am asking about stock wheels.
> >> 
> >> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> >> Wickford RI
> >> 
> >> On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 11:07 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  >>> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Either works for me.
> >>> 
> >>> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 5:18 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>> 
>  Should a 240 have steelies & matching caps not bundts?
>  
>  Dwight Giles Jr.
>  Wickford RI
>  
>  On May 16, 2018 4:23 PM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>  wrote:
>  
> > seems a little sketchy
> > 
> > https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1981-mercedes-240-se
> > dan/6580754272.html
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Re: [MBZ] Here's a good solution to excess disposable income

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Yep. Archer Road and 39th were two lane country roads. The landing strip at 
Stengel Field extended from near the intersection on back into woods, and the 
hanger was near Archer Road, further to the west, and bordered by a trailer 
park. 

Having moved to Gainesville when it was a small cracker town with nearly all 
the stores clustered around the courthouse, it seems unbelievable that it has 
become what it is today. America changes so fast, I guess you can't go back; at 
least in Florida. 

Gerry

MG wrote:

> That would probably have been on Archer road where Butler Plaza 
> shopping center is now. The whole area is all built up with 6 
> lanes of traffic. Looks ugly.
> 
> archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
> > There was once a flying club near the University of Florida at a small 
> > field.
> > The members would crack the throttle on an old 40 hp J-3 Cub, prop it, and 
> > then run around and get in before it started moving.
> > One day a ministerial student cracked the throttle from wide open instead 
> > of idle, the plane started rolling, and he grabbed the end of a wing as it 
> > went by and hung on. The plane made a full circle and ran into the side of 
> > the hangar.
> > The plane wasn't heavily damaged, and the student wasn't hurt, but the 
> > members bought out his share of the flying club and suggested he take up 
> > another pastime.
> > 
> > The 40 hp J-3 was an interesting plane. In a strong headwind you could 
> > almost take off straight up. If you were flying to another town, you had 
> > better not go if you had a strong headwind. You could run out of fuel or 
> > daylight before you got there. That might have been because the engine 
> > wasn't in the best condition.
> > An auto mechanic down the road did the maintainence and rebuilds and the A 
> > and E at the city airport signed off on them. That was back around 1960.
> > Gerry
> > 
> > OK Donwrote:
> >> I used to, but would have to look it up now - too many years ago.
> >>
> >> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 2:55 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> >> 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> OK, tech test time.
> >>> Who here knows the special knot you use to tie the tail wheel, that runs 
> >>> to
> >>> the rope you run to the cockpit, that will let you hand prop an airplane,
> >>> safely, then climb in, strap in, pull the tail wheel rope release, take in
> >>> the rope, and let you taxi away to fly?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 12:40 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
>  "Hand propped to start"
>  Contact!
> 
>  -Curt
> 
> 
>  On Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 12:33:16 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes <
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> 
>   Even more fun - -
> 
>  https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1946-aeronca-7ac-champ/
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>  On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 9:40 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> > 62 Rolls temptress on BAT.
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Re: [MBZ] 240 D manny $1200

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

It’s posted at PP, too, I believe.

Either that or I saw it in a National CL search I run.

-D

> On May 17, 2018, at 2:13 PM, Ed Booher via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> "A joy to restore"
>- Man who has obviously never worked on Mercedes-Benz before.
> 
> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 7:11 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> 
>> In the Mercedes W123 (North America) FB group by a guy called Anton
>> Koncaba Lincoln NE
>> 
>> Selling my 82 240D, manual everything. New looking seats out of the same
>> year 300D. 272,000 miles, shows no sign of powertrain problems. Some rust
>> but mostly cosmetic, exhaust rattles and the muffler is in the trunk with
>> most of an exhaust to replace the current. Needs rear shocks but planning
>> on putting some on in a week or 2 unless a buyer is ok as is. I've been
>> using as a daily for 9 months, block heater works great. New battery in
>> Dec. Vacuum system needs all new lines. Asking $1200, shittier Pontiac's go
>> for that much. Honestly would be a great project car, just enough is wrong
>> that it'd be a joy to restore and probably wouldn't cost much. Except the
>> windshield would cost a bit, you don't notice it while driving but it's
>> delaminated in a couple spots you can see in the picture.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 240 D manny $1200

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Sure contraire! I've always loved restoring my Mercedes.

On May 17, 2018 2:13 PM, "Ed Booher via Mercedes" 
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> "A joy to restore"
> - Man who has obviously never worked on Mercedes-Benz before.
>
> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 7:11 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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>
> > In the Mercedes W123 (North America) FB group by a guy called Anton
> > Koncaba Lincoln NE
> >
> > Selling my 82 240D, manual everything. New looking seats out of the same
> > year 300D. 272,000 miles, shows no sign of powertrain problems. Some rust
> > but mostly cosmetic, exhaust rattles and the muffler is in the trunk with
> > most of an exhaust to replace the current. Needs rear shocks but planning
> > on putting some on in a week or 2 unless a buyer is ok as is. I've been
> > using as a daily for 9 months, block heater works great. New battery in
> > Dec. Vacuum system needs all new lines. Asking $1200, shittier Pontiac's
> go
> > for that much. Honestly would be a great project car, just enough is
> wrong
> > that it'd be a joy to restore and probably wouldn't cost much. Except the
> > windshield would cost a bit, you don't notice it while driving but it's
> > delaminated in a couple spots you can see in the picture.
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Re: [MBZ] 240 D manny $1200

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

"A joy to restore"
- Man who has obviously never worked on Mercedes-Benz before.

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 7:11 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> In the Mercedes W123 (North America) FB group by a guy called Anton
> Koncaba Lincoln NE
>
> Selling my 82 240D, manual everything. New looking seats out of the same
> year 300D. 272,000 miles, shows no sign of powertrain problems. Some rust
> but mostly cosmetic, exhaust rattles and the muffler is in the trunk with
> most of an exhaust to replace the current. Needs rear shocks but planning
> on putting some on in a week or 2 unless a buyer is ok as is. I've been
> using as a daily for 9 months, block heater works great. New battery in
> Dec. Vacuum system needs all new lines. Asking $1200, shittier Pontiac's go
> for that much. Honestly would be a great project car, just enough is wrong
> that it'd be a joy to restore and probably wouldn't cost much. Except the
> windshield would cost a bit, you don't notice it while driving but it's
> delaminated in a couple spots you can see in the picture.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Activating wireless service on CentOS 7 / MATE

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Though, I gotta ask, why CEntOS? Are you running it in an Enterprise /
Production environment? I mean, if you are that's great. Red Hat work pays
for my bacon. But otherwise, the stability comes at the cost of newer
technologies that most home / laptop users would want. Fedora / Ubuntu
would be a better choice from that perspective.

Also - RHEL7 Network Guide:

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Activating wireless service on CentOS 7 / MATE

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7 (RHEL7 / CEntOS7) has a very good WiFi
interface. As long as you installed the appropriate packages, it should
recognize the wireless nic and ask you to walk through setup.

On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 11:05 AM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> So I finally put CentOS 7 on our laptop and then added MATE for a
> graphical user interface.
>
> I have been using it with a hardwired Internet connection, but I now need
> to get it working with a wireless connection.
>
> Any suggestions on how I do that?
>
> Thanks,
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Activating wireless service on CentOS 7 / MATE

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

There are several choices, I've never used CentOS but have used frisbee on 
several distros, it's pretty easy and understandable.

Curt

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  On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 11:06 AM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:   So I finally put CentOS 7 on our laptop and then added MATE for a
graphical user interface.

I have been using it with a hardwired Internet connection, but I now need
to get it working with a wireless connection.

Any suggestions on how I do that?

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Re: [MBZ] 1981 Mercedes 240 D sedan 4speed " RARE " - $3300 (LEXINGTON SC)

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Hey were stock on the 300’s in 81 or 82. 240 was hub caps standard 

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> On May 17, 2018, at 11:41 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Bundts became stock between model years 82-83 on W123s, I believe.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On May 17, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Bundts were an extra cost option until the early 1980s, then became stock
>> IIRC.
>> 
>> On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Dwight Giles 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I am asking about stock wheels.
>>> 
>>> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
>>> Wickford RI
>>> 
>>> On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 11:07 AM, Andrew Strasfogel >>> wrote:
>>> 
 Either works for me.
 
 On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 5:18 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> Should a 240 have steelies & matching caps not bundts?
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> On May 16, 2018 4:23 PM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> seems a little sketchy
>> 
>> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1981-mercedes-240-se
>> dan/6580754272.html
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Re: [MBZ] 1981 Mercedes 240 D sedan 4speed " RARE " - $3300 (LEXINGTON SC)

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

OK will research some day

Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 12:52 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes  wrote:

> I guess it’s possible the 240Ds didn’t get them, I don’t know as I never
> paid attention.  I just found that to be the cutoff when I had my 82 300D.
>
> -D
>
> > On May 17, 2018, at 12:51 PM, Dwight Giles 
> wrote:
> >
> > OK_I thought that was  just  non 240D's. I thought 240D's had steel
> wheels all  the way through.
> > I have an extra set of Bundts in my cellar, Guess I will bring them to
> the Q.
> >
> > Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> >> On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 12:41 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> Bundts became stock between model years 82-83 on W123s, I believe.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >> > On May 17, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Bundts were an extra cost option until the early 1980s, then became
> stock
> >> > IIRC.
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Dwight Giles <
> dwight.gi...@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I am asking about stock wheels.
> >> >>
> >> >> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> >> >> Wickford RI
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 11:07 AM, Andrew Strasfogel <
> astrasfo...@gmail.com
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Either works for me.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 5:18 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> >> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >>  Should a 240 have steelies & matching caps not bundts?
> >> 
> >>  Dwight Giles Jr.
> >>  Wickford RI
> >> 
> >>  On May 16, 2018 4:23 PM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" <
> >>  mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >>  wrote:
> >> 
> >> > seems a little sketchy
> >> >
> >> > https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1981-mercedes-240-se
> >> > dan/6580754272.html
> >> >
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Re: [MBZ] the cabin interior headliner has been removed and a dolphin painted in its place

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Just buy a new or used headliner and install it.  Then you’ll be dolphin free, 
just like the tuna!

-D

> On May 17, 2018, at 1:01 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> How much will it cost to get a quality paint job? 
> Gerry
> 
> Dan wrote:
> 
>> Don’t buy this as a flip, you’ll never recover your costs.
>> 
>> The resale values on these is right about where it’s priced. Certainly many 
>> folks price them higher, but with the miles this one has the price is pretty 
>> much in the ballpark.
>> 
>> If you can get it for $3k it’s not a bad deal.  Even at that price you would 
>> be hard pressed to flip and make a profit.
>> 
>> If it had mileage more common for these, typically below 125k, it would 
>> probably command between $4k-$5k because it’s a stick.
>> 
>> Otherwise, these are pretty simple and fairly reliable cars for the vintage. 
>>  Interior plastics are their Achilles heel, as they break down and peel 
>> rather badly.  Not tough to fix, but cosmetically sucky.  The sticks are 
>> pretty fun to drive.  I’ve been looking for one to try and entice the wife 
>> out of her SL500 for economics.  It’s a great car and I’m not parting with 
>> it, but the way she drives it the overhead is a killer.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On May 17, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Got a reply back from the guy, he is a professor at the Citadel so I'm 
>>> guessing he is not a CL deadbeat.  Says he's around after 2 so I'm going to 
>>> look at it.
>>> 
>>> Guy wants $3500, I'm guessing he hasn't gotten many bites.  I don't want to 
>>> insult him but if it is an inheritance and he doesn't have space for it, 
>>> and probably has no particular interest in it, what would not be insulting 
>>> to offer?  I'm thinking $2800 maybe go to $3k with a plan to flip it before 
>>> long.  If it is indeed a 6spd (and Dan has a sharp eye as that does look 
>>> like a shifter) these have a bit more attractiveness, right?
>>> 
>>> I know nothing about these cars but it looks half nice, don't need it, 
>>> never really liked them much, etc but maybe it would be a quick buck or 
>>> two to flip?
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
>>> 
 On 5/16/18 4:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 That is not a bad deal especially since it’s a crashbox.  They’re not easy 
 to find in this model.
 
 -D
 
 
> On May 16, 2018, at 4:20 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Might be worth dickering down some for a fun ride
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Re: [MBZ] the cabin interior headliner has been removed and a dolphin painted in its place

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How much will it cost to get a quality paint job? 
Gerry

Dan wrote:

> Don’t buy this as a flip, you’ll never recover your costs.
> 
> The resale values on these is right about where it’s priced. Certainly many 
> folks price them higher, but with the miles this one has the price is pretty 
> much in the ballpark.
> 
> If you can get it for $3k it’s not a bad deal.  Even at that price you would 
> be hard pressed to flip and make a profit.
> 
> If it had mileage more common for these, typically below 125k, it would 
> probably command between $4k-$5k because it’s a stick.
> 
> Otherwise, these are pretty simple and fairly reliable cars for the vintage.  
> Interior plastics are their Achilles heel, as they break down and peel rather 
> badly.  Not tough to fix, but cosmetically sucky.  The sticks are pretty fun 
> to drive.  I’ve been looking for one to try and entice the wife out of her 
> SL500 for economics.  It’s a great car and I’m not parting with it, but the 
> way she drives it the overhead is a killer.
> 
> -D
> 
> > On May 17, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Got a reply back from the guy, he is a professor at the Citadel so I'm 
> > guessing he is not a CL deadbeat.  Says he's around after 2 so I'm going to 
> > look at it.
> > 
> > Guy wants $3500, I'm guessing he hasn't gotten many bites.  I don't want to 
> > insult him but if it is an inheritance and he doesn't have space for it, 
> > and probably has no particular interest in it, what would not be insulting 
> > to offer?  I'm thinking $2800 maybe go to $3k with a plan to flip it before 
> > long.  If it is indeed a 6spd (and Dan has a sharp eye as that does look 
> > like a shifter) these have a bit more attractiveness, right?
> > 
> > I know nothing about these cars but it looks half nice, don't need it, 
> > never really liked them much, etc but maybe it would be a quick buck or 
> > two to flip?
> > 
> > --FT
> > 
> > 
> >> On 5/16/18 4:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >> That is not a bad deal especially since it’s a crashbox.  They’re not easy 
> >> to find in this model.
> >> 
> >> -D
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On May 16, 2018, at 4:20 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> >>>  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Might be worth dickering down some for a fun ride
> >>> 
> >>> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/mercedes-benz-convertible/6589847638.html
> >>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1981 Mercedes 240 D sedan 4speed " RARE " - $3300 (LEXINGTON SC)

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

I guess it’s possible the 240Ds didn’t get them, I don’t know as I never paid 
attention.  I just found that to be the cutoff when I had my 82 300D.

-D

> On May 17, 2018, at 12:51 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> 
> OK_I thought that was  just  non 240D's. I thought 240D's had steel wheels 
> all  the way through.
> I have an extra set of Bundts in my cellar, Guess I will bring them to the Q.
> 
> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
>> On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 12:41 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> Bundts became stock between model years 82-83 on W123s, I believe.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> > On May 17, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> > 
>> > Bundts were an extra cost option until the early 1980s, then became stock
>> > IIRC.
>> > 
>> > On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Dwight Giles 
>> > wrote:
>> > 
>> >> I am asking about stock wheels.
>> >> 
>> >> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
>> >> Wickford RI
>> >> 
>> >> On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 11:07 AM, Andrew Strasfogel > >>> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >>> Either works for me.
>> >>> 
>> >>> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 5:18 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
>> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >>> 
>>  Should a 240 have steelies & matching caps not bundts?
>>  
>>  Dwight Giles Jr.
>>  Wickford RI
>>  
>>  On May 16, 2018 4:23 PM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" <
>>  mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>  wrote:
>>  
>> > seems a little sketchy
>> > 
>> > https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1981-mercedes-240-se
>> > dan/6580754272.html
>> > 
>> > --
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Re: [MBZ] 1981 Mercedes 240 D sedan 4speed " RARE " - $3300 (LEXINGTON SC)

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

OK_I thought that was  just  non 240D's. I thought 240D's had steel wheels
all  the way through.
I have an extra set of Bundts in my cellar, Guess I will bring them to the
Q.

Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 12:41 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes  wrote:

> Bundts became stock between model years 82-83 on W123s, I believe.
>
> -D
>
> > On May 17, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Bundts were an extra cost option until the early 1980s, then became stock
> > IIRC.
> >
> > On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Dwight Giles 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I am asking about stock wheels.
> >>
> >> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> >> Wickford RI
> >>
> >> On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 11:07 AM, Andrew Strasfogel <
> astrasfo...@gmail.com
> >>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Either works for me.
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 5:18 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
>  Should a 240 have steelies & matching caps not bundts?
> 
>  Dwight Giles Jr.
>  Wickford RI
> 
>  On May 16, 2018 4:23 PM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>  wrote:
> 
> > seems a little sketchy
> >
> > https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1981-mercedes-240-se
> > dan/6580754272.html
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Are '65 Riviera's really worth over $50k?

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That is a cool car. I never looked at the auction as I knew it would go for 
stupid money.

-D

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Re: [MBZ] 1981 Mercedes 240 D sedan 4speed " RARE " - $3300 (LEXINGTON SC)

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Bundts became stock between model years 82-83 on W123s, I believe.

-D

> On May 17, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Bundts were an extra cost option until the early 1980s, then became stock
> IIRC.
> 
> On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Dwight Giles 
> wrote:
> 
>> I am asking about stock wheels.
>> 
>> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
>> Wickford RI
>> 
>> On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 11:07 AM, Andrew Strasfogel >> wrote:
>> 
>>> Either works for me.
>>> 
>>> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 5:18 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Should a 240 have steelies & matching caps not bundts?
 
 Dwight Giles Jr.
 Wickford RI
 
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 mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 wrote:
 
> seems a little sketchy
> 
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1981-mercedes-240-se
> dan/6580754272.html
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[MBZ] OT: Are '65 Riviera's really worth over $50k?

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Re: [MBZ] W111 rare 1966 300SE coupe on BAT heading to the stratosphere

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"May have been owned by John Wayne" ... surely has influenced the
bidding... it does show well.

Very classic...

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> What's really stupid is that it's a stripped down model (no PW or s/r).
>
> $62k and climbing.  When will the insanity end?
>
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Re: [MBZ] the cabin interior headliner has been removed and a dolphin painted in its place

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Inattention to detail

Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 11:14 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> OK good points.  I absolutely don't need another car, but if it would be
> worth something as a flip I could do that, but it probably doesn't have
> much upside at even $3k.  I guess it would be fun but fun is not in my
> future at the moment car-wise so I guess I will take a look at it and see
> what is going on with it, just be a tire-kicker.
>
> Speaking of tires, I took the old set of wheels/tires off the E300 to the
> shop to get the new Kumhos mounted, I bought a new wheel at the junkyard
> that had a good Michelin on it, told the kid I wanted the tire for a spare,
> he says sure.  Some $ in it.  Go to pick up the new mounted tires, no old
> tire to be found.  Guy said they would look for it, get back to me.  No
> call since Saturday so I called and whatever guy I talked to was quite
> evasive about it.So now I have to argue with them if they don't find
> it. Why do simple things have to be so hard?
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 5/17/18 10:51 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Don’t buy this as a flip, you’ll never recover your costs.
>>
>> The resale values on these is right about where it’s priced. Certainly
>> many folks price them higher, but with the miles this one has the price is
>> pretty much in the ballpark.
>>
>> If you can get it for $3k it’s not a bad deal.  Even at that price you
>> would be hard pressed to flip and make a profit.
>>
>> If it had mileage more common for these, typically below 125k, it would
>> probably command between $4k-$5k because it’s a stick.
>>
>> Otherwise, these are pretty simple and fairly reliable cars for the
>> vintage.  Interior plastics are their Achilles heel, as they break down and
>> peel rather badly.  Not tough to fix, but cosmetically sucky.  The sticks
>> are pretty fun to drive.  I’ve been looking for one to try and entice the
>> wife out of her SL500 for economics.  It’s a great car and I’m not parting
>> with it, but the way she drives it the overhead is a killer.
>>
>> -D
>>
>> On May 17, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Got a reply back from the guy, he is a professor at the Citadel so I'm
>>> guessing he is not a CL deadbeat.  Says he's around after 2 so I'm going to
>>> look at it.
>>>
>>> Guy wants $3500, I'm guessing he hasn't gotten many bites.  I don't want
>>> to insult him but if it is an inheritance and he doesn't have space for it,
>>> and probably has no particular interest in it, what would not be insulting
>>> to offer?  I'm thinking $2800 maybe go to $3k with a plan to flip it before
>>> long.  If it is indeed a 6spd (and Dan has a sharp eye as that does look
>>> like a shifter) these have a bit more attractiveness, right?
>>>
>>> I know nothing about these cars but it looks half nice, don't need it,
>>> never really liked them much, etc but maybe it would be a quick buck or
>>> two to flip?
>>>
>>> --FT
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/16/18 4:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 That is not a bad deal especially since it’s a crashbox.  They’re not
 easy to find in this model.

 -D


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>
> Might be worth dickering down some for a fun ride
>
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/mercedes-benz-conver
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Re: [MBZ] 1981 Mercedes 240 D sedan 4speed " RARE " - $3300 (LEXINGTON SC)

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Bundts were an extra cost option until the early 1980s, then became stock
IIRC.

On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Dwight Giles 
wrote:

> I am asking about stock wheels.
>
> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 11:07 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  > wrote:
>
>> Either works for me.
>>
>> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 5:18 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Should a 240 have steelies & matching caps not bundts?
>>>
>>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>>> Wickford RI
>>>
>>> On May 16, 2018 4:23 PM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > seems a little sketchy
>>> >
>>> > https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1981-mercedes-240-se
>>> > dan/6580754272.html
>>> >
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Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

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IIRC poor Rich can't get the darn car to run, so all this debate about the
type of oil is kinda off point.  He needs to get it up and running FIRST
before worrying about M1 vs. Delvac.  My recommendation would be to check
the fuel tank filter (screen) if he has not already done so.

On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 10:34 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  wrote:

> That’s a function of the detergents, I believe.  Using that logic,
> wouldn’t it make sense to have fresher oil in the engine to get the most
> benefit from the additives?
>
> I’ve only had one car in my life that showed a noticeable difference from
> running synthetic oil in it, and I’m not totally convinced it was the
> reason why the lifters quieted down, as part of the problem was a few bad
> oil tubes.  In fact, running synthetic in my 400E has caused the thing to
> leak like a sieve.  I’m going to change it back to high mileage Dino juice
> to (hopefully) get the seals to swell up.
>
> Again, I’m no maniac about oil types. I use both.  In some cars I do it
> based on manufacturer’s recommendations, in others, fiscal concerns.
>
> -D
>
> > On May 17, 2018, at 10:06 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > So what about the supposed benefit of cleaning out the engine and
> keeping it clean, and supposedly quieting down lifters?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On May 17, 2018, at 7:35 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Mobil1 averages about $26/5 quarts. I can buy 2-1/2 gallons of Delo 400
> LE for $26.00, which makes it about $2.60/quart, or half the price of
> Mobil1.  I’m not sure where you’re buying filters for $8.00, I’m paying
> around $10.00 for Mann or Hengst.
> >>
> >> So a five quart oil change is actually under $25.00.
> >>
> >> If you’re doing oil analysis properly, and as someone who did oil
> analysis on literally thousands of diesel industrial engines from maybe 50
> to 2500 HP for many years, you’re sampling on a regular basis, let’s say
> twice a year.  That’s what, $40-$50?
> >>
> >> So if you sample and use M1, you’re spending roughly $75/year with a
> single oil change based on 10k/miles/year.  If I change twice a year based
> on time or interval (5k intervals) with no sampling, I’m spending $50.
> >>
> >> So I’m running fresher oil for $25 less a year.  As I stated
> previously, if Mobil1 wasn’t a group 3 base stock I would go that route.
> However, since they downgraded the product I don’t see a lot of value in
> using it over more frequent changes using Dino oil.
> >>
> >> To each his/her own, of course. That’s just my take on it.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On May 17, 2018, at 8:01 AM, Curt Raymond 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Can I see the breakdown of costs please? I don't believe I pay $70 for
> a change with M1. $30/gallon on sale, $8 for a filter...
> >>>
> >>> Curt
> >>>
> >>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 6:00 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> >>>  wrote:
> >>> Good quality diesel oil like Delo 400 LE is cheap.  I can do a
> complete change with Delo 400 LE on the 95 E300D for under $35 every 5000
> miles and not have concerns.  If I used Mobil1 it would be near twice the
> cost.  Since Mobil1 is a group 3 base stock it’s not that much better than
> conventional dino juice in my opinion.
> >>>
> >>> Oh yeah, if I drop another $20 on oil analysis I’ve driven my costs up
> even more.
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>>
> >>>
>  On May 16, 2018, at 8:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>> So what about the supposed benefit of cleaning out the engine and
> keeping it clean, and supposedly quieting down lifters?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On May 17, 2018, at 7:35 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Mobil1 averages about $26/5 quarts. I can buy 2-1/2 gallons of Delo 400
> LE for $26.00, which makes it about $2.60/quart, or half the price of
> Mobil1.  I’m not sure where you’re buying filters for $8.00, I’m paying
> around $10.00 for Mann or Hengst.
> >>
> >> So a five quart oil change is actually under $25.00.
> >>
> >> If you’re doing oil analysis properly, and as someone who did oil
> analysis on literally thousands of diesel industrial engines from maybe 50
> to 2500 HP for many years, you’re sampling on a regular basis, let’s say
> twice a year.  That’s what, $40-$50?
> >>
> >> So if you sample and use M1, you’re spending roughly $75/year with a
> single oil change based on 10k/miles/year.  If I change twice a year based
> on time or interval (5k intervals) with no sampling, I’m spending $50.
> >>
> >> So I’m running fresher oil for $25 less a year.  As I stated
> previously, if Mobil1 wasn’t a group 3 base stock I would go that route.
> However, since they downgraded the product I don’t see a lot of value in
> using it over more frequent changes using Dino oil.
> >>
> >> To each his/her own, of course. That’s just my take on it.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On May 17, 2018, at 8:01 AM, Curt Raymond 

[MBZ] 1972 600 on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

This is some hunk o' car.  Surprisingly affordable so far...

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-mercedes-benz-600/?utm_source=dailymail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2018-05-17
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[MBZ] W111 rare 1966 300SE coupe on BAT heading to the stratosphere

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

What's really stupid is that it's a stripped down model (no PW or s/r).

$62k and climbing.  When will the insanity end?

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Re: [MBZ] the cabin interior headliner has been removed and a dolphin painted in its place

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OK good points.  I absolutely don't need another car, but if it would be 
worth something as a flip I could do that, but it probably doesn't have 
much upside at even $3k.  I guess it would be fun but fun is not in my 
future at the moment car-wise so I guess I will take a look at it and 
see what is going on with it, just be a tire-kicker.


Speaking of tires, I took the old set of wheels/tires off the E300 to 
the shop to get the new Kumhos mounted, I bought a new wheel at the 
junkyard that had a good Michelin on it, told the kid I wanted the tire 
for a spare, he says sure.  Some $ in it.  Go to pick up the new mounted 
tires, no old tire to be found.  Guy said they would look for it, get 
back to me.  No call since Saturday so I called and whatever guy I 
talked to was quite evasive about it.    So now I have to argue with 
them if they don't find it. Why do simple things have to be so hard?


--FT


On 5/17/18 10:51 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

Don’t buy this as a flip, you’ll never recover your costs.

The resale values on these is right about where it’s priced. Certainly many 
folks price them higher, but with the miles this one has the price is pretty 
much in the ballpark.

If you can get it for $3k it’s not a bad deal.  Even at that price you would be 
hard pressed to flip and make a profit.

If it had mileage more common for these, typically below 125k, it would 
probably command between $4k-$5k because it’s a stick.

Otherwise, these are pretty simple and fairly reliable cars for the vintage.  
Interior plastics are their Achilles heel, as they break down and peel rather 
badly.  Not tough to fix, but cosmetically sucky.  The sticks are pretty fun to 
drive.  I’ve been looking for one to try and entice the wife out of her SL500 
for economics.  It’s a great car and I’m not parting with it, but the way she 
drives it the overhead is a killer.

-D


On May 17, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Got a reply back from the guy, he is a professor at the Citadel so I'm guessing 
he is not a CL deadbeat.  Says he's around after 2 so I'm going to look at it.

Guy wants $3500, I'm guessing he hasn't gotten many bites.  I don't want to 
insult him but if it is an inheritance and he doesn't have space for it, and 
probably has no particular interest in it, what would not be insulting to 
offer?  I'm thinking $2800 maybe go to $3k with a plan to flip it before long.  
If it is indeed a 6spd (and Dan has a sharp eye as that does look like a 
shifter) these have a bit more attractiveness, right?

I know nothing about these cars but it looks half nice, don't need it, never 
really liked them much, etc but maybe it would be a quick buck or two to 
flip?

--FT



On 5/16/18 4:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
That is not a bad deal especially since it’s a crashbox.  They’re not easy to 
find in this model.

-D



On May 16, 2018, at 4:20 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

Might be worth dickering down some for a fun ride

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/mercedes-benz-convertible/6589847638.html

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Re: [MBZ] 1981 Mercedes 240 D sedan 4speed " RARE " - $3300 (LEXINGTON SC)

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

I am asking about stock wheels.

Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 11:07 AM, Andrew Strasfogel 
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> Either works for me.
>
> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 5:18 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Should a 240 have steelies & matching caps not bundts?
>>
>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>> Wickford RI
>>
>> On May 16, 2018 4:23 PM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > seems a little sketchy
>> >
>> > https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1981-mercedes-240-se
>> > dan/6580754272.html
>> >
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Re: [MBZ] 1981 Mercedes 240 D sedan 4speed " RARE " - $3300 (LEXINGTON SC)

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Either works for me.

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 5:18 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Should a 240 have steelies & matching caps not bundts?
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On May 16, 2018 4:23 PM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
>
> > seems a little sketchy
> >
> > https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1981-mercedes-240-se
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> >
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[MBZ] OT: Activating wireless service on CentOS 7 / MATE

[Craig via Mercedes]

So I finally put CentOS 7 on our laptop and then added MATE for a
graphical user interface.

I have been using it with a hardwired Internet connection, but I now need
to get it working with a wireless connection.

Any suggestions on how I do that?

Thanks,


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] the cabin interior headliner has been removed and a dolphin painted in its place

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Don’t buy this as a flip, you’ll never recover your costs.

The resale values on these is right about where it’s priced. Certainly many 
folks price them higher, but with the miles this one has the price is pretty 
much in the ballpark.

If you can get it for $3k it’s not a bad deal.  Even at that price you would be 
hard pressed to flip and make a profit.

If it had mileage more common for these, typically below 125k, it would 
probably command between $4k-$5k because it’s a stick.

Otherwise, these are pretty simple and fairly reliable cars for the vintage.  
Interior plastics are their Achilles heel, as they break down and peel rather 
badly.  Not tough to fix, but cosmetically sucky.  The sticks are pretty fun to 
drive.  I’ve been looking for one to try and entice the wife out of her SL500 
for economics.  It’s a great car and I’m not parting with it, but the way she 
drives it the overhead is a killer.

-D

> On May 17, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Got a reply back from the guy, he is a professor at the Citadel so I'm 
> guessing he is not a CL deadbeat.  Says he's around after 2 so I'm going to 
> look at it.
> 
> Guy wants $3500, I'm guessing he hasn't gotten many bites.  I don't want to 
> insult him but if it is an inheritance and he doesn't have space for it, and 
> probably has no particular interest in it, what would not be insulting to 
> offer?  I'm thinking $2800 maybe go to $3k with a plan to flip it before 
> long.  If it is indeed a 6spd (and Dan has a sharp eye as that does look like 
> a shifter) these have a bit more attractiveness, right?
> 
> I know nothing about these cars but it looks half nice, don't need it, never 
> really liked them much, etc but maybe it would be a quick buck or two to 
> flip?
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
>> On 5/16/18 4:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> That is not a bad deal especially since it’s a crashbox.  They’re not easy 
>> to find in this model.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 16, 2018, at 4:20 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Might be worth dickering down some for a fun ride
>>> 
>>> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/mercedes-benz-convertible/6589847638.html
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Here's a good solution to excess disposable income

[MG via Mercedes]

That would probably have been on Archer road where Butler Plaza 
shopping center is now. The whole area is all built up with 6 
lanes of traffic. Looks ugly.


archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

There was once a flying club near the University of Florida at a small field.
The members would crack the throttle on an old 40 hp J-3 Cub, prop it, and then 
run around and get in before it started moving.
One day a ministerial student cracked the throttle from wide open instead of 
idle, the plane started rolling, and he grabbed the end of a wing as it went by 
and hung on. The plane made a full circle and ran into the side of the hangar.
The plane wasn't heavily damaged, and the student wasn't hurt, but the members 
bought out his share of the flying club and suggested he take up another 
pastime.

The 40 hp J-3 was an interesting plane. In a strong headwind you could almost 
take off straight up. If you were flying to another town, you had better not go 
if you had a strong headwind. You could run out of fuel or daylight before you 
got there. That might have been because the engine wasn't in the best condition.
An auto mechanic down the road did the maintainence and rebuilds and the A and 
E at the city airport signed off on them. That was back around 1960.
Gerry

OK Donwrote:

I used to, but would have to look it up now - too many years ago.

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 2:55 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:


OK, tech test time.
Who here knows the special knot you use to tie the tail wheel, that runs to
the rope you run to the cockpit, that will let you hand prop an airplane,
safely, then climb in, strap in, pull the tail wheel rope release, take in
the rope, and let you taxi away to fly?


On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 12:40 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


"Hand propped to start"
Contact!

-Curt


On Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 12:33:16 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

 Even more fun - -

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1946-aeronca-7ac-champ/


On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 9:40 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


62 Rolls temptress on BAT.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1962-rolls-royce-
silver-cloud/?utm_source=dailymail&utm_medium=email&
utm_campaign=2018-05-16
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Re: [MBZ] the cabin interior headliner has been removed and a dolphin painted in its place

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Got a reply back from the guy, he is a professor at the Citadel so I'm 
guessing he is not a CL deadbeat.  Says he's around after 2 so I'm going 
to look at it.


Guy wants $3500, I'm guessing he hasn't gotten many bites.  I don't want 
to insult him but if it is an inheritance and he doesn't have space for 
it, and probably has no particular interest in it, what would not be 
insulting to offer?  I'm thinking $2800 maybe go to $3k with a plan to 
flip it before long.  If it is indeed a 6spd (and Dan has a sharp eye as 
that does look like a shifter) these have a bit more attractiveness, right?


I know nothing about these cars but it looks half nice, don't need it, 
never really liked them much, etc but maybe it would be a quick buck 
or two to flip?


--FT


On 5/16/18 4:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

That is not a bad deal especially since it’s a crashbox.  They’re not easy to 
find in this model.

-D



On May 16, 2018, at 4:20 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

Might be worth dickering down some for a fun ride

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/mercedes-benz-convertible/6589847638.html

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Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

That’s a function of the detergents, I believe.  Using that logic, wouldn’t it 
make sense to have fresher oil in the engine to get the most benefit from the 
additives?

I’ve only had one car in my life that showed a noticeable difference from 
running synthetic oil in it, and I’m not totally convinced it was the reason 
why the lifters quieted down, as part of the problem was a few bad oil tubes.  
In fact, running synthetic in my 400E has caused the thing to leak like a 
sieve.  I’m going to change it back to high mileage Dino juice to (hopefully) 
get the seals to swell up.

Again, I’m no maniac about oil types. I use both.  In some cars I do it based 
on manufacturer’s recommendations, in others, fiscal concerns.

-D

> On May 17, 2018, at 10:06 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So what about the supposed benefit of cleaning out the engine and keeping it 
> clean, and supposedly quieting down lifters?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 17, 2018, at 7:35 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Mobil1 averages about $26/5 quarts. I can buy 2-1/2 gallons of Delo 400 LE 
>> for $26.00, which makes it about $2.60/quart, or half the price of Mobil1.  
>> I’m not sure where you’re buying filters for $8.00, I’m paying around $10.00 
>> for Mann or Hengst.
>> 
>> So a five quart oil change is actually under $25.00.
>> 
>> If you’re doing oil analysis properly, and as someone who did oil analysis 
>> on literally thousands of diesel industrial engines from maybe 50 to 2500 HP 
>> for many years, you’re sampling on a regular basis, let’s say twice a year.  
>> That’s what, $40-$50?
>> 
>> So if you sample and use M1, you’re spending roughly $75/year with a single 
>> oil change based on 10k/miles/year.  If I change twice a year based on time 
>> or interval (5k intervals) with no sampling, I’m spending $50.
>> 
>> So I’m running fresher oil for $25 less a year.  As I stated previously, if 
>> Mobil1 wasn’t a group 3 base stock I would go that route.  However, since 
>> they downgraded the product I don’t see a lot of value in using it over more 
>> frequent changes using Dino oil.
>> 
>> To each his/her own, of course. That’s just my take on it.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 17, 2018, at 8:01 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Can I see the breakdown of costs please? I don't believe I pay $70 for a 
>>> change with M1. $30/gallon on sale, $8 for a filter...
>>> 
>>> Curt
>>> 
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>> 
>>> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 6:00 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>> Good quality diesel oil like Delo 400 LE is cheap.  I can do a complete 
>>> change with Delo 400 LE on the 95 E300D for under $35 every 5000 miles and 
>>> not have concerns.  If I used Mobil1 it would be near twice the cost.  
>>> Since Mobil1 is a group 3 base stock it’s not that much better than 
>>> conventional dino juice in my opinion.
>>> 
>>> Oh yeah, if I drop another $20 on oil analysis I’ve driven my costs up even 
>>> more.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 16, 2018, at 8:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> So what about the supposed benefit of cleaning out the engine and keeping 
>>> it clean, and supposedly quieting down lifters?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 17, 2018, at 7:35 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Mobil1 averages about $26/5 quarts. I can buy 2-1/2 gallons of Delo 400 LE 
>> for $26.00, which makes it about $2.60/quart, or half the price of Mobil1.  
>> I’m not sure where you’re buying filters for $8.00, I’m paying around $10.00 
>> for Mann or Hengst.
>> 
>> So a five quart oil change is actually under $25.00.
>> 
>> If you’re doing oil analysis properly, and as someone who did oil analysis 
>> on literally thousands of diesel industrial engines from maybe 50 to 2500 HP 
>> for many years, you’re sampling on a regular basis, let’s say twice a year.  
>> That’s what, $40-$50?
>> 
>> So if you sample and use M1, you’re spending roughly $75/year with a single 
>> oil change based on 10k/miles/year.  If I change twice a year based on time 
>> or interval (5k intervals) with no sampling, I’m spending $50.
>> 
>> So I’m running fresher oil for $25 less a year.  As I stated previously, if 
>> Mobil1 wasn’t a group 3 base stock I would go that route.  However, since 
>> they downgraded the product I don’t see a lot of value in using it over more 
>> frequent changes using Dino oil.
>> 
>> To each his/her own, of course. That’s just my take on it.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 17, 2018, at 8:01 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Can I see the breakdown of costs please? I don't believe I pay $70 for a 
>>> change with M1. $30/gallon on sale, $8 for a filter...
>>> 
>>> Curt
>>> 
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>> 
>>> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 6:00 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>> Good quality diesel oil like Delo 400 LE is cheap.  I can do a complete 
>>> change with Delo 400 LE on the 95 E300D for under $35 every 5000 miles and

Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

So what about the supposed benefit of cleaning out the engine and keeping it 
clean, and supposedly quieting down lifters?

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 17, 2018, at 7:35 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Mobil1 averages about $26/5 quarts. I can buy 2-1/2 gallons of Delo 400 LE 
> for $26.00, which makes it about $2.60/quart, or half the price of Mobil1.  
> I’m not sure where you’re buying filters for $8.00, I’m paying around $10.00 
> for Mann or Hengst.
> 
> So a five quart oil change is actually under $25.00.
> 
> If you’re doing oil analysis properly, and as someone who did oil analysis on 
> literally thousands of diesel industrial engines from maybe 50 to 2500 HP for 
> many years, you’re sampling on a regular basis, let’s say twice a year.  
> That’s what, $40-$50?
> 
> So if you sample and use M1, you’re spending roughly $75/year with a single 
> oil change based on 10k/miles/year.  If I change twice a year based on time 
> or interval (5k intervals) with no sampling, I’m spending $50.
> 
> So I’m running fresher oil for $25 less a year.  As I stated previously, if 
> Mobil1 wasn’t a group 3 base stock I would go that route.  However, since 
> they downgraded the product I don’t see a lot of value in using it over more 
> frequent changes using Dino oil.
> 
> To each his/her own, of course. That’s just my take on it.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 17, 2018, at 8:01 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>> 
>> Can I see the breakdown of costs please? I don't believe I pay $70 for a 
>> change with M1. $30/gallon on sale, $8 for a filter...
>> 
>> Curt
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> 
>> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 6:00 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> Good quality diesel oil like Delo 400 LE is cheap.  I can do a complete 
>> change with Delo 400 LE on the 95 E300D for under $35 every 5000 miles and 
>> not have concerns.  If I used Mobil1 it would be near twice the cost.  Since 
>> Mobil1 is a group 3 base stock it’s not that much better than conventional 
>> dino juice in my opinion.
>> 
>> Oh yeah, if I drop another $20 on oil analysis I’ve driven my costs up even 
>> more.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 16, 2018, at 8:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So here we go again. My line of thinking has been that if you go synthetic 
>>> over Dino, can you double the internal? For example earlier engines like 
>>> 617 and 603 have a factory 5k interval. Could you go 10k on those with 
>>> synthetic? Later engines such as 606 have a 7500 mile interval, so could 
>>> those go 14-15k? I am thinking so but others have said that is crazy don’t 
>>> go more than 5k on M1 since it’s a group 3. If you go amsoil or one of 
>>> those that’s group 4 you can probably go 10-15k on. If I can double the 
>>> interval it’s with it to me. I don’t really need the cold start benefit. I 
>>> am not sure if it’s a benefit on a 2-300k mile engine that has ran on Dino 
>>> it’s whole life. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On May 16, 2018, at 7:05 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
 
 You're not wasting it on a 60x engine. Oil analysis of the two 601s I had 
 suggested they could handily go 10,000miles on Mobil 1 between changes.I 
 mean I guess if you really like changing the oil...
 
 Curt
 
 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
 On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 2:52 PM, Dan Penoff via 
 Mercedesmailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:  
 You’re wasting your money putting Mobil1 in the diesel.  Delvac or Delo 
 400 at Dead Sam’s will be more than adequate and far less expensive.
 
 -D
 
> On May 16, 2018, at 5:48 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I got a filter yesterday and going to change the oel in this dizzel.  I'm 
> guessing cheepcheep Delvac will be fine?  Don't want to go M1 and pay for 
> that.
> 
> I also got the Kumhos mounted on it, have not taken it out yet as it is 
> running badly now, again, going out to change the fuel filter and see if 
> that helps.  The tires look pretty good, no telling how they will be but 
> if they last a while it's all good.
> 
> I heard the vac valve or whatever it is on the fender that is connected 
> to the EGR making some kind of gurgling noise so wonder if the EGR is not 
> working right now.  I pulled the hose and it hissed so there was vacuum 
> in the hoses, I guess those are OK.  I think I'll just do the rewiring 
> bypass on the EGR and be done with it but need to get organized to do 
> that.
> 
> -- 
> --FT
> 
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Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Mobil1 averages about $26/5 quarts. I can buy 2-1/2 gallons of Delo 400 LE for 
$26.00, which makes it about $2.60/quart, or half the price of Mobil1.  I’m not 
sure where you’re buying filters for $8.00, I’m paying around $10.00 for Mann 
or Hengst.

So a five quart oil change is actually under $25.00.

If you’re doing oil analysis properly, and as someone who did oil analysis on 
literally thousands of diesel industrial engines from maybe 50 to 2500 HP for 
many years, you’re sampling on a regular basis, let’s say twice a year.  That’s 
what, $40-$50?

So if you sample and use M1, you’re spending roughly $75/year with a single oil 
change based on 10k/miles/year.  If I change twice a year based on time or 
interval (5k intervals) with no sampling, I’m spending $50.

So I’m running fresher oil for $25 less a year.  As I stated previously, if 
Mobil1 wasn’t a group 3 base stock I would go that route.  However, since they 
downgraded the product I don’t see a lot of value in using it over more 
frequent changes using Dino oil.

To each his/her own, of course. That’s just my take on it.

-D



> On May 17, 2018, at 8:01 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> Can I see the breakdown of costs please? I don't believe I pay $70 for a 
> change with M1. $30/gallon on sale, $8 for a filter...
> 
> Curt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 6:00 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> Good quality diesel oil like Delo 400 LE is cheap.  I can do a complete 
> change with Delo 400 LE on the 95 E300D for under $35 every 5000 miles and 
> not have concerns.  If I used Mobil1 it would be near twice the cost.  Since 
> Mobil1 is a group 3 base stock it’s not that much better than conventional 
> dino juice in my opinion.
> 
> Oh yeah, if I drop another $20 on oil analysis I’ve driven my costs up even 
> more.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> > On May 16, 2018, at 8:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > So here we go again. My line of thinking has been that if you go synthetic 
> > over Dino, can you double the internal? For example earlier engines like 
> > 617 and 603 have a factory 5k interval. Could you go 10k on those with 
> > synthetic? Later engines such as 606 have a 7500 mile interval, so could 
> > those go 14-15k? I am thinking so but others have said that is crazy don’t 
> > go more than 5k on M1 since it’s a group 3. If you go amsoil or one of 
> > those that’s group 4 you can probably go 10-15k on. If I can double the 
> > interval it’s with it to me. I don’t really need the cold start benefit. I 
> > am not sure if it’s a benefit on a 2-300k mile engine that has ran on Dino 
> > it’s whole life. 
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> >> On May 16, 2018, at 7:05 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> >> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> >> 
> >> You're not wasting it on a 60x engine. Oil analysis of the two 601s I had 
> >> suggested they could handily go 10,000miles on Mobil 1 between changes.I 
> >> mean I guess if you really like changing the oil...
> >> 
> >> Curt
> >> 
> >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
> >> 
> >> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 2:52 PM, Dan Penoff via 
> >> Mercedesmailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:  
> >> You’re wasting your money putting Mobil1 in the diesel.  Delvac or Delo 
> >> 400 at Dead Sam’s will be more than adequate and far less expensive.
> >> 
> >> -D
> >> 
> >>> On May 16, 2018, at 5:48 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> >>>  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> I got a filter yesterday and going to change the oel in this dizzel.  I'm 
> >>> guessing cheepcheep Delvac will be fine?  Don't want to go M1 and pay for 
> >>> that.
> >>> 
> >>> I also got the Kumhos mounted on it, have not taken it out yet as it is 
> >>> running badly now, again, going out to change the fuel filter and see if 
> >>> that helps.  The tires look pretty good, no telling how they will be but 
> >>> if they last a while it's all good.
> >>> 
> >>> I heard the vac valve or whatever it is on the fender that is connected 
> >>> to the EGR making some kind of gurgling noise so wonder if the EGR is not 
> >>> working right now.  I pulled the hose and it hissed so there was vacuum 
> >>> in the hoses, I guess those are OK.  I think I'll just do the rewiring 
> >>> bypass on the EGR and be done with it but need to get organized to do 
> >>> that.
> >>> 
> >>> -- 
> >>> --FT
> >>> 
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Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Can I see the breakdown of costs please? I don't believe I pay $70 for a change 
with M1. $30/gallon on sale, $8 for a filter...
Curt

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  On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 6:00 PM, Dan Penoff via 
Mercedes wrote:   Good quality diesel oil like Delo 400 
LE is cheap.  I can do a complete change with Delo 400 LE on the 95 E300D for 
under $35 every 5000 miles and not have concerns.  If I used Mobil1 it would be 
near twice the cost.  Since Mobil1 is a group 3 base stock it’s not that much 
better than conventional dino juice in my opinion.

Oh yeah, if I drop another $20 on oil analysis I’ve driven my costs up even 
more.

-D


> On May 16, 2018, at 8:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So here we go again. My line of thinking has been that if you go synthetic 
> over Dino, can you double the internal? For example earlier engines like 617 
> and 603 have a factory 5k interval. Could you go 10k on those with synthetic? 
> Later engines such as 606 have a 7500 mile interval, so could those go 
> 14-15k? I am thinking so but others have said that is crazy don’t go more 
> than 5k on M1 since it’s a group 3. If you go amsoil or one of those that’s 
> group 4 you can probably go 10-15k on. If I can double the interval it’s with 
> it to me. I don’t really need the cold start benefit. I am not sure if it’s a 
> benefit on a 2-300k mile engine that has ran on Dino it’s whole life. 
> 
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>> On May 16, 2018, at 7:05 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> You're not wasting it on a 60x engine. Oil analysis of the two 601s I had 
>> suggested they could handily go 10,000miles on Mobil 1 between changes.I 
>> mean I guess if you really like changing the oil...
>> 
>> Curt
>> 
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>> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 2:52 PM, Dan Penoff via 
>> Mercedesmailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:  
>> You’re wasting your money putting Mobil1 in the diesel.  Delvac or Delo 400 
>> at Dead Sam’s will be more than adequate and far less expensive.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On May 16, 2018, at 5:48 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I got a filter yesterday and going to change the oel in this dizzel.  I'm 
>>> guessing cheepcheep Delvac will be fine?  Don't want to go M1 and pay for 
>>> that.
>>> 
>>> I also got the Kumhos mounted on it, have not taken it out yet as it is 
>>> running badly now, again, going out to change the fuel filter and see if 
>>> that helps.  The tires look pretty good, no telling how they will be but if 
>>> they last a while it's all good.
>>> 
>>> I heard the vac valve or whatever it is on the fender that is connected to 
>>> the EGR making some kind of gurgling noise so wonder if the EGR is not 
>>> working right now.  I pulled the hose and it hissed so there was vacuum in 
>>> the hoses, I guess those are OK.  I think I'll just do the rewiring bypass 
>>> on the EGR and be done with it but need to get organized to do that.
>>> 
>>> -- 
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Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

You have to get the oil tested to be sure but I see no reason why not. I change 
at 10,000 on both the Golf and Jetta as analysis shows both happy in that and 
it's about one change a year. When I was driving a lot more it was twice a 
year. I took a 190D up to 12,000 with no problem from the analysis, as Don says 
15k is probably fine too but 10k fit my schedule better.

Curt

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  On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 5:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via 
Mercedes wrote:   So here we go again. My line of 
thinking has been that if you go synthetic over Dino, can you double the 
internal? For example earlier engines like 617 and 603 have a factory 5k 
interval. Could you go 10k on those with synthetic? Later engines such as 606 
have a 7500 mile interval, so could those go 14-15k? I am thinking so but 
others have said that is crazy don’t go more than 5k on M1 since it’s a group 
3. If you go amsoil or one of those that’s group 4 you can probably go 10-15k 
on. If I can double the interval it’s with it to me. I don’t really need the 
cold start benefit. I am not sure if it’s a benefit on a 2-300k mile engine 
that has ran on Dino it’s whole life. 

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> On May 16, 2018, at 7:05 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You're not wasting it on a 60x engine. Oil analysis of the two 601s I had 
> suggested they could handily go 10,000miles on Mobil 1 between changes.I mean 
> I guess if you really like changing the oil...
> 
> Curt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
> 
>  On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 2:52 PM, Dan Penoff via 
>Mercedes wrote:  You’re wasting your money putting 
>Mobil1 in the diesel.  Delvac or Delo 400 at Dead Sam’s will be more than 
>adequate and far less expensive.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On May 16, 2018, at 5:48 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I got a filter yesterday and going to change the oel in this dizzel.  I'm 
>> guessing cheepcheep Delvac will be fine?  Don't want to go M1 and pay for 
>> that.
>> 
>> I also got the Kumhos mounted on it, have not taken it out yet as it is 
>> running badly now, again, going out to change the fuel filter and see if 
>> that helps.  The tires look pretty good, no telling how they will be but if 
>> they last a while it's all good.
>> 
>> I heard the vac valve or whatever it is on the fender that is connected to 
>> the EGR making some kind of gurgling noise so wonder if the EGR is not 
>> working right now.  I pulled the hose and it hissed so there was vacuum in 
>> the hoses, I guess those are OK.  I think I'll just do the rewiring bypass 
>> on the EGR and be done with it but need to get organized to do that.
>> 
>> -- 
>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Very odd electrical issue in SDL

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It may be the ignition switch since it got worse after he exercised it several 
times.
Gerry

> Bad connection, could be anywhere really.  But people always forget the
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> Not that many places that unrelated circuits can interact.  Power upstream
> of the
> fuses, or ground.
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