Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts
Didn't someone (Curt?) say tht HF wire was no good and we must buy good wire from a regular welding supply dealer? Also, he should be sure pants legs go down over shoe or boot tops. A drop of liquid steel down in the shoe is a common event that can cause wild dancing and serious burns. Don't ask me how I know. Gerry Randy Bennell wrote: Nomex underwear is required for the racetrack anyway so you may as well get it now! RB On 05/06/2015 1:28 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: I hit the HF tool sale and got myself a low end gasless MIG welder to learn on. Wire feed and the cheapo auto darkening mask. I read the instructions to see what this thing can do. Those instructions are big on safety, but not on actually how to run the rig. I went to the hardware store to get a hardi panel so I could have a welding table. There were too many metal or wooden tables for me to use, but the manual was pretty adamant that I have concrete to set things on. So far it works fairly well. I have a few old computer cases that donated their covers for the day I am versed in welding enough to repair the floors in the 300D. Today, I learned that I need a hat to keep the slag from jumping onto the back of my head. I could not get a decent bead using the PC carcasses and was getting a bunch of blow through. I moved up to old brake rotors and was able to get a decent enough bead, but it still looks like crap. Sun was out and after 40 minutes or getting a hang for the machine, I had to head inside. I will be looking for a better set of welding wear so I can keep from setting myself on fire. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Microsoft Mysteries
Tried to sign into Microsoft. It rejected my address because it contained the symbol @ . How an address can written without using @ (at) is a mystery. It's enough to drive a person to Linux. (end of rant) Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Microsoft Mysteries
Interesting. I'll try that with Microsoft. Gerry Curly McLain wrote: Tried to sign into Microsoft. It rejected my address because it contained the symbol @ . How an address can written without using @ (at) is a mystery. It's enough to drive a person to Linux. (end of rant) Gerry I had a linux VM webserver/email server that insisted you replace @ with a dash. It was weird. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - bees
Mountain Man wrote: My neighbor mentioned a documentary about bees recently. I ride my bike 2.5 miles to his house to purchase eggs. As I walked out the door, he stopped and wrote the name for me. He said he always forgets, and I had already forgotten the name of the documentary. Thedocumentary is about bees leaving hives - Vanishing of the Bees: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQwesnNVyn8 It was interesting to hear commentary about society in bees - we might learn something from them if we could spend some time thinking in introspection. I liked some of what the guy at Spikenard Farm Honeybee Sanctuary said. Trucking bees makes about 70% of their annual income as they market their pollination services to our monoculture industrial farming. Monoculture farming seems to be a bad industrial farming fundamental. Diversity seems to be sustainable in all ways. Enjoy. mao Bees are interesting critters. A man from a small town who had contracted leukemia was sent home to die after all treatments failed at the Med School Hospital. He had a few hives, accidentally knocked one over, and was taken back to the Med School Hospital with multiple life threatening bites. He survived, and to the doctors amazement, all signs of the leukemia were gone. He was sent home in total remission and resumed his normal life. I've often wondered if the leukemia ever returned, but as far as I know he was never again admitted to the hospital. Gerry --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dan P.'s Next Benz
NEWS FLASH: Walmart now carries Shoe Goo, and its in the automotive department. With duct tape and Shoe Goo there isn't much that can't be fixed. BTW, can someone tell me where the transmission linkage kill switch for the starter solenoid is on an '83 300D? Thanks, Gerry ... Fred Moir wrote: Duct tape roll almost empty??? Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 07:18:48 -0500 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Dan P.'s Next Benz From: mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: rickkno...@hotmail.com http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/5035672155.html Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Dumb trick.
When I found it took a very long shop jack to reach the front lift point on the Prius, I bought a pair of ramps instead, centered them on the front wheels, drove up on the ramps, put on the emergency brake, and then decided to move the car further back in the shop. When I had backed half way down the ramps with the emergency brake dragging, both ramps shot out from under the wheels, knocking the woodworking bench down, and kicking out one leg on the general purpose bench. I sat there for a minute trying to figure out why the ramps kicked out with such force, and then it dawned on me: Front wheel drive car after 40+ years of working on rear wheel drive cars! Fortunately there was was no significant damage. Gerry...who has a long history of dumb tricks. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dumb trick.
On Sun, 24 May 2015 08:32:45 -0500 Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: When I found it took a very long shop jack to reach the front lift point on the Prius, I bought a pair of ramps instead, centered them on the front wheels, drove up on the ramps, put on the emergency brake, and then decided to move the car further back in the shop. When I had backed half way down the ramps with the emergency brake dragging, both ramps shot out from under the wheels, knocking the woodworking bench down, and kicking out one leg on the general purpose bench. I sat there for a minute trying to figure out why the ramps kicked out with such force, and then it dawned on me: Front wheel drive car after 40+ years of working on rear wheel drive cars! Fortunately there was was no significant damage. Gerry...who has a long history of dumb tricks. That is a good story. It is also why I don't set the emerg brake, but use blocks. Emerg brakes have a history of sticking on. So if you don't use it, it can't stick on. G: Thanks for the suggestion. I'll use blocks in the future. Of course, this time I just forgot to release the emergency brake. Duuh! Gerry --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '68 250S
That's what happens when you don't use rattle cans. Son was constantly fussing at me about paint on the Beetle he drove to school. He came home from school one day while I was spraying it with rattle cans. At age 56 he still reminds me of it. Gerry Dan Penoff wrote: That’s called “patina”, man. It just adds to the value. Dan who has some patina of his own On May 24, 2015, at 8:15 AM, Jon Agne via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I was going to have it painted this year as there has been body work done to the front of the car. It was a horrible re-spray (water in lines), and it doesn’t quite match the rest of the car. The original paint is badly checked, so to do a complete strip and re paint is about $6500. I think I’ll live with it the way it is. Jon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dumb trick.
On Sun, 24 May 2015 09:29:20 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On May 24, 2015 at 9:13 AM Gerry Archer via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: When I had backed half way down the ramps with the emergency brake dragging, both ramps shot out from under the wheels, knocking the woodworking bench down, and kicking out one leg on the general purpose bench. In my family we call that 'a senior moment'. Is it wrong of me to admit to laughing out loud while reading this? Mitch G: Not sure it's a senior moment what with a long history of doing even dumber things before I was a senior. No problem with laughing out loud. After a string of my own choice words and setting back up the tables I knocked down, I had a good laugh myself. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dumb trick.
Yup. That's what kicked out the ramps since the engine didn't start. Gerry rawillms wrote: Don't forget the electric motor that puts out100% torque at 1 RPM. Sent from my Android-Powered Device - Reply message - From: Gerry Archer via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com Subject: [MBZ] Dumb trick. Date: Sun, May 24, 2015 08:13 When I found it took a very long shop jack to reach the front lift point on the Prius, I bought a pair of ramps instead, centered them on the front wheels, drove up on the ramps, put on the emergency brake, and then decided to move the car further back in the shop. When I had backed half way down the ramps with the emergency brake dragging, both ramps shot out from under the wheels, knocking the woodworking bench down, and kicking out one leg on the general purpose bench. I sat there for a minute trying to figure out why the ramps kicked out with such force, and then it dawned on me: Front wheel drive car after 40+ years of working on rear wheel drive cars! Fortunately there was was no significant damage. Gerry...who has a long history of dumb tricks. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Having a very bad day leads to a product recall
I just checked the telephone book for this relatively small county and found that there are 32 pages of lawyers and only 21 pages of physicians and surgeons. The U.S. still has a free market for small businesses, so public demand dictates the number and type of lawyers who go in business for themselves. If the public was not willing to pay for the services of these local lawyers whom they obviously consider a necessity, there would not be 32 pages of them listed in the phone book. When Joseph Stalin took over the USSR, one of the first things he did was send the Russian lawyers to Siberia, and we all know what happened to the USSR. Lawyers are a huge contributor to domestic peace in Western nations. In the past we might have shot our neighbor during a dispute, but now we hire a lawyer and sue him. Lawyers are obviously a very necessary component of Western civilization. Gerry . Randy Bennell wrote: Well, my good wife likes to hear that lawyer's families are housed and fed. RB On 20/05/2015 5:08 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Yes... For a fee... Just saying... and since I carry concealed, I have my criminal lawyer on retainer, and his 24 hr. number written on my ankle, so I will always have it handy while I'm having the full body cavity search in jail intake. Not guilty your Honor ;)) Boots, to Snakes, to Congress, to lawyers.. amazing how the human mind associates, isn't it.. On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Hey, just remember that when you are in really deep sh*t, we are the ones you call for help. Even if you dispatched your poor old mother, we are the ones who will stand with you in court and try to point out all of your good qualities to the Judge. RB On 20/05/2015 1:42 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: The only way I know is to get a law degree and pass the bar, or didn't you know that neither snakes nor sharks will ever bite a lawyer? Professional courtesy... With apologies to Randy, Donald, and the rest... - Max Charleston SC On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: How do you avoid snakebite in DC? Lotsa snakes on the loose there. 535 come to mind, but when you add in the lobbyists, lawyers and other slithering creatures, there are a whole bunch! Maybe they don't bite their own kind... ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [PhilosophicalM] FW: Gates vs Ford Motors
Windows vs. Ford Motor Co. For all of us who feel only the deepest love and affection for the way computers have enhanced our lives, read on. At a recent computer expo (COMDEX), Bill Gates reportedly compared the computer industry with the auto industry and stated, If Ford had kept up with technology like the computer industry has, we would all be driving $25 cars that got 1,000 miles to the gallon. In response to Bill's comments, Ford issued a press release stating: If Ford had developed technology like Microsoft, we would all be driving cars with the following characteristics: 1. For no reason whatsoever, your car would crash.twice a day. 2. Every time they repainted the lines in the road, you would have to buy a new car. 3. Occasionally your car would die on the freeway for noreason. You would have to pull to the side of the road,close all of the windows, shut off the car, restart it, andreopen the windows before you could continue. For some reason you would simply accept this. 4. Occasionally, executing a maneuver such as a left turnwould cause your car to shut down and refuse to restart, in which case you would have to reinstall the engine. 5. Macintosh would make a car that was powered by the sun, was reliable, five times as fast and twice as easy to drive - but would run on only five percent of the roads. 6. The oil, water temperature, and alternator, warning lights would all be replaced by a single This Car Has Performed An Illegal Operation warning light. 7. The airbag system would ask, Are you sure? “before deploying. 8. Occasionally, for no reason whatsoever, your car would lock you out and refuse to let you in until you simultaneously lifted the door handle, turned the key and grabbed hold of the radio antenna. 9. Every time a new car was introduced car buyers would have to learn how to drive all over again because none of the controls would operate in the same manner as the old car. 10. You'd have to press the Start button to turn the engine off. When all else fails, you could call customer service in some foreign country and be instructed in some foreign language how to fix your car yourself! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Happy Thanksgiving!
Good luck. That would be a lot more fun than working on my ratty old '83 300D. Gerry From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com That's OK. Im not going anywhere. I'm still working a couple of potential deals on an R129, so if one of them comes through I'll have my project for the holidays. I've got one deal about to pop - the seller has called me back after a week and is trying to get me to counter. He has cut his price twice, dropping $1300 so far. We're $300 apart, but I'm going to wear him down, as I know the wife wants the car gone and he needs the money. his last response was, If I can't get $ for it, I'll just keep it. Right. If he doesn't come down, no problem. There are plenty others on the market. Dan On Nov 30, 2013, at 12:49 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: Looks like I can't get a ride until well after the holidays, so it doesn't look possible anytime soon. Maybe someone else on the list is close. Thanks, anyway, Dan. Gerry From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com It will have to be a weekend until the holidays. I'm off work from December 21st to January 5th. During that time frame would be best. Dan On Nov 28, 2013, at 9:19 PM, Gerry Archer wrote: Okay, I'll talk to my daughter when she gets back and try to arrange for a day that suits you and that she can fit into her schedule. Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3629/6879 - Release Date: 11/29/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3629/6880 - Release Date: 11/30/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Happy Thanksgiving!
If you're still interested after resurrecting the one you're dealing on, let me know. Gerry Not necessarily. I like resurrecting ratty cars. It's amazing how well the older finishes recover. Dan On Nov 30, 2013, at 10:18 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: Good luck. That would be a lot more fun than working on my ratty old '83 300D. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3629/6880 - Release Date: 11/30/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] e6umehyt OT: Highest (and most dangerous) outhouse in the world
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02749/POTD_extreme_toile_2749699k.jpg This lonely lavatory has been dubbed the most extreme toilet in the worldperched on a cliff 8,500 feet above sea level in Siberia. The precariousprivy in the Altai Mountains, Russia serves the remote weather station atKara-Tyurek - literally Black Heart in the local South Altayan language -which began working in 1939. Five staff man the station at this outpost andthis is their only toilet. They are visited once a month by a postman tocollect the weather data, and a helicopter delivers supplies of food andwater each autumn. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Happy Thanksgiving!
Looks like I can't get a ride until well after the holidays, so it doesn't look possible anytime soon. Maybe someone else on the list is close. Thanks, anyway, Dan. Gerry From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com It will have to be a weekend until the holidays. I'm off work from December 21st to January 5th. During that time frame would be best. Dan On Nov 28, 2013, at 9:19 PM, Gerry Archer wrote: Okay, I'll talk to my daughter when she gets back and try to arrange for a day that suits you and that she can fit into her schedule. Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3629/6879 - Release Date: 11/29/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Happy Thanksgiving!
I can bring my blue '83 300D down but I don't think anybody can do anything with the finish. Body is in good shape; no dents; no rust, and the finish is pretty much intact. It's just a very deep shade of dull. Do you charge by the job or by the hour? Gerry I do. someone needs to bring their car by for a good Martha'ing. Dan On Nov 28, 2013, at 4:56 PM, Frederick Moir wrote: Dan, et al. One small thing that I am thankful for is that I can still fix things, just a bit slower than before. SL500? Sounds like you need a challenge. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3629/6876 - Release Date: 11/28/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Happy Thanksgiving!
Okay, I'll talk to my daughter when she gets back and try to arrange for a day that suits you and that she can fit into her schedule. Thanks, Gerry From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Bring it down and let me have it for a day, and I'll make it shine... Sent from my iPad On Nov 28, 2013, at 8:33 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: I can bring my blue '83 300D down but I don't think anybody can do anything with the finish. Body is in good shape; no dents; no rust, and the finish is pretty much intact. It's just a very deep shade of dull. Do you charge by the job or by the hour? Gerry I do. someone needs to bring their car by for a good Martha'ing. Dan On Nov 28, 2013, at 4:56 PM, Frederick Moir wrote: Dan, et al. One small thing that I am thankful for is that I can still fix things, just a bit slower than before. SL500? Sounds like you need a challenge. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3629/6876 - Release Date: 11/28/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3629/6876 - Release Date: 11/28/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] dan gordon lifestyle week continues
Don Marquis, a popular journalist / author of many years ago, wouldn't use capitalization / punctuation either. One of his editors insisted he use them, so Marquis sent him a half dozen pages of single spaced punctuation and capitalized letters and told him to insert them wherever he saw fit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archy_and_mehitabel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Marquis Personally I like stream-of-conciousness submissions. The writer is usually writing exactly what he thinks / feels as opposed to the often edited submissions. Free spirits such as Gary are interesting. Gerry From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com it's not haphazard so much as i don't believe in it so much so i stopped using it On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 10:45 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes I get it. You've been criticized for your haphazard use of capitalization and punctuation. I attribute it to your stream of consciousness approach to writing! Sent from my iPhone On Nov 26, 2013, at 8:51 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i had no appreciation of allen ginsberg back in my youth, when i had associates who were in the same sort of circle as he. i could have been buddies with ginsberg, but instead just found him a funny old man (although not much older than i am now) saying stupid things i had contempt for. such opportunities squandered for the sake of arrogance and ignorance, while today i talk mostly to people online and the only real live ones i talk to who are not immediate family are the superintendent and janitor of my building . then in the mid eightees on the band's tour bus, i am snorting cocaine with a large man, a musician in bonnie raitt's band it seems, when bonnie comes on the bus, visibly upset over some stalker, i believe his name was jeff. now given this situation, the best answer would be along the lines of well, you just sit down here, miss raitt, i'll make sure you have no more trouble with this 'jeff' fellow tonight i had to, in the best tradition of pull my finger, utter something along the lines of geez, man, your mom is really freaky deaky, wow as i knew it would get a laugh from this fellow and who can resist such a thing? i imagine most of you will find this post mad or at least unclear, but i kinda think dmitri will get it, so here it is On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 6:36 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: So you think you're a regular Allen Ginsberg;) Sent from my iPhone On Nov 26, 2013, at 4:58 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i road my rusty cruiser bike (lives outside on the intercoastal, chained to a post) around in the rain wearing my akubra hat . stopped at the local bike shop to see if he felt all the rust was a structural danger. got rained on heavily. stopped at the russian market for real russian rye bread. got rained on some more. chained it back up to the post. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3629/6870 - Release Date: 11/26/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Hendrick's shed
The true test is whether or not women will stay out. I've had a man cave for 16 years that my wife seldom entered unless it was absolutely essential. Gerry From: Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com Number 2 but not that tidy. Hendrik who needs to give the man cave a clean up, so I can make room for my home brew On 27/11/13 13:36, OK Don wrote: Which one of these is (or most closely resembles) Hendrick's shead??? http://www.slate.com/blogs/behold/2013/11/26/jasper_white_photographs_man_caves_in_rural_australia.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3629/6870 - Release Date: 11/26/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hood Stars and Ice
Especially after you've had a few. Gerry From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com An askew or missing star makes for erratic, frustrating and unsafe driving - 'hard to concentrate on real driving, situational awareness, speed control, lane integrity, spacing, traffic conditions, etc. 'Could be worse than texting or talking on phone. 'Better park it 'til ya get that replaced. Wilton - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 12:12 AM Subject: [MBZ] Hood Stars and Ice While driving to church Sunday morning, I noticed that the hood star on our 1982 240D/3.0 was crooked. When we got to church, I got out and tried to straighten it. Eventhough it had snowed and was in the mid-20s, I did not think of ice. When I tried to move it, the star broke off in my hand. So, Kaleb, do you have a W123 hood star? If so, how much? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3629/6870 - Release Date: 11/26/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] iPad Air catches fire; fire department called.
Apple fanbois around the world are on red alert after one of the latest fruity fondleslabs caught fire and exploded in an Australian Vodafone shop. A demonstration model of the new iPad Air caused a fire so intense that the fire brigade were called. Although no-one was hurt in the fire, fanbois around the world will be sleeping a little less easily tonight. A photograph obtained by the Daily Mail shows Apple's hottest (sorry) fondleslab looking like it had been baked in a dirty oven. The newspaper quoted a Vodafone spokesman who saw a burst of flames shoot out of the iPad's charging port. An Apple iApparatchik was straight on the scene to work out why the Air had caught fire. There have been several examples of iPhones and dodgy Chinese chargers going pop, but this is believed to be the first time an iPad has ignited. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/11/08/ipad_air_explodes_into_fireball_as_terrified_fanbois_flee_apple_store/ Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] The joys of the self-employed
The New Zealand Taxation Office suspected a fishing boat owner wasn't paying proper wages to his help and sent an agent to investigate him. NZ TAX AGENT TO BOAT OWNER: I need a list of your employees and how much you pay them. Boat Owner: Well, there's Clarence, my hired hand, he's been with me for 3 years. I pay him $1,000 a week plus free room and board. Then there's the mentally challenged guy. He works about 18 hours every day and does about 90% of the work around here. He makes about $10 per week, pays his own room and board, and I buy him a bottle of Coruba rum and a dozen Lagers every Saturday night so he can cope with life. He also gets to sleep with my wife occasionally. NZ TO AUDITOR: That's the guy I want to talk to - the mentally challenged one. Boat Owner: That'll be me. What'd you want to know? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tar
I've had no problems with either Kumho or Yokohama tires. The ones I had tended to be noisy and didn't handle like X-1 Michelins, but for around $75 shipping prepaid it's not surprising. Kumho Tire Co., Inc. LSE: KHTC, formerly known as Samyang Tire, is a South Korean tire company. Headquartered in Gwangju, South Korea, it is a subsidiary of the Kumho Asiana Group, along with Asiana Airlines, South Korea's second largest airline. Was Asiana airlines the one that crashed in Frisco? Gerry From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net I just saw where they are building a plant in the US, SC was trying to get it but I think it went somewhere else, Alabama maybe? --R On 11/23/13 12:51 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: kumho have a certain following . i don't know where they are from. i'd guess korea, like all good things of recent past, but it sounds kinda finnish as well ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] iPad Air catches fire; fire department called.
Burning computers, burning cars. Welcome to the battery age. Gerry.who would like to buy an old Honda Insight to play with. From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com Reminds me of the cartoon I used to have on my office door - two boy scouts are standing by their fires. the first one says I strated my fire with two sticks. The second one proudly says I used a Dell. On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 12:28 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel marme...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Apple fanbois around the world are on red alert after one of the latest fruity fondleslabs caught fire and exploded in an Australian Vodafone shop. A demonstration model of the new iPad Air caused a fire so intense that the fire brigade were called. Well, Apple DID promise an entirely new mobile computing experience. Shoulda just thrown a couple shrimp on it. ;) -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3629/6859 - Release Date: 11/22/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Long shot missed
FWIW: If I were in Craigs position I would vounteer as a physics, chemistry, or science teachers aid at a local high school; without pay if necessary. Then I would be sure and include that prominently on my CV in further applications; and if the schools Craig has already applied to again need a physicist, I would send in an updated application with the current work at the high school prominently displayed and the application titled: UPDATED APPLICATION. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I assume that Craig has had no recent experience teaching high school students physics, and that applicants who have are the ones who got the jobs for which Craig applied. At a small college Craig would very likely be teaching students who are less than one year out of high school, so the teachers aid experience could be very valuable to him after he finds such a job. Gerry 'Sounds like a goodun. ;) 'Hope all goes well, and perseverance wins again. Wilton On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 21:42:29 -0700 Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: I haven't been sitting on my heels, though. I still have not heard back from Berry College in Rome, Georgia, Lynntech, Inc., in College Station, Texas, Western Carolina University in Cullowhee, North Carolina, or, John Brown University in Siloam Springs, Arkansas (they now have a physics position open) And I forgot to mention, Kimball Physics in Wilton, New Hampshire. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3629/6859 - Release Date: 11/22/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] R107 rockets
There is a 500SL at the local indy who sells foreign cars for his customers. The price seemed low when I saw it about a week ago, and there was a make an offer tag as well. Looked good from the outside. Gerry From: Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com In regards to which SL is the best, obviously condition is the number one thing, better a good 380 than a thrashed and neglected 560. The pick of the litter is the 500SL, no enviro crap and faster than the strangled 560. However they are rare as rocking horse poo, as they where only sold in Euro land. Same with the US 380 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_R107_and_C107 made ugly with dodgem car bumpers and de-powered. We also got the 300SL, with the M103 engine, not a bad car as the 103 with the 722.3 is a reliable unit and if wikilies is to believed, more powerful than the US 380. Hendrik who just got the TE AC re-gassed with flammable gas, no more smoking in the car now ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3629/6854 - Release Date: 11/21/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tar
Sears started selling the substandard Michelins years ago, it soon became obvious, so I moved to Tire Kingdom and bought Michelins (X-1?) that Marshall recommended and they were fine. When X-1s were no longer available I bought different Michelin tires from Tire Kingdom and they were awful; less than 20K miles. Since I've been buying tires off the internet, no more problems with tire quality. Around here it's expensive to get them mounted and balanced; which comes out to about the same price as buying them locally; but the tires seem to be exactly what you order. Gerry From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com jono tells me costco tires, like walmart ones, are crappy spec tires made to a price and not like real michelins, so instead i got sumitomos at tire kingdom, which he didn't approve of either On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: So how are y'all's tar mountings going? --R On 11/22/13 1:16 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: i never thought much of rusty either so maybe we have more common ground than i'm thinking On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Nov 22, 2013 9:31 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: im sorry your hero left you and his hand picked successor disappointed. You have me confused with somebody else. I never thought much of Rusty. I have given up on old M-Bs entirely now that Peachparts Phil is gone. There 's nobody competent selling parts as far as I'm concerned. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3629/6856 - Release Date: 11/21/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] a9e4ura8 Re: Mail Delivery Failure
Please have my mail white listed, Gerry - Original Message - From: Mail Delivery System postmas...@embarqmail.com To: arche...@embarqmail.com Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 2:31 PM Subject: Mail Delivery Failure This message was created automatically by the mail system (ecelerity). A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: mercedes@okiebenz.com (reading confirmation): 554 5.7.1 Mail (id-38514-10141) appears to be unsolicited - Scoring(60) surpassed limit(45) - resend with the code a9e4ura8 appended to subject and ask to have your email whitelisted (the code a9e4ura8 changes each 24 hours). 221 closing transmission ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] mete8y4u Pilot Error
Russian crash investigators find voice recorder The last word the pilot of the Boeing 737 uttered was circle. Moments later the jetliner slammed into the ground, investigators said Wednesday, killing all 50 people on board. The Moscow-based Interstate Aviation Committee, which investigates plane crashes across the former Soviet Union, concluded a day earlier that the crew failed to land at first attempt, began to stall in a steep climb, then overcompensated -- plunging the plane into a near-vertical dive. The report was based on the data retrieved from the plane's flight parameters recorder, which also showed that its engines and other systems were working fine until the plane hit the ground. On Wednesday, search teams found a tape of cockpit conversations -- a crucial piece of evidence that was missing when its container was found the day before. The recording is expected to shed light upon the motives behind the series of faulty maneuvers that led to the crash. Vladimir Markin, a spokesman for the Investigative Committee, Russia's main criminal investigative agency conducting its own probe into the crash, said that recordings of the crew's conversations with the control tower sounded routine. The pilot reported that the plane was in a wrong position for the landing and confirmed getting a traffic controller's command to circle the airport prior to making a second run. The final word the pilot said before the crash was 'circle,' Markin said in a statement. The Tatarstan Airlines plane was flying from Moscow to the central city of Kazan, 720 kilometers (450 miles) to the east. Moscow's Interstate Aviation Committee's report concluded that to prepare the jet for a second try, the crew switched off autopilot and put the plane's engines on maximum power, raising the plane's nose to an angle of about 25 degrees. The abrupt move apparently caused the jetliner to lose speed. The normal procedure during an aborted landing is to apply near-maximum power and assume about a 5-to-7 degree nose-up attitude, said Kevin Hiatt, a former Delta Air Lines chief pilot and president of the Flight Safety Foundation, a U.S.-based nonprofit. Twenty-five degrees nose-up is excessive. There's no question about that whatsoever, Hiatt said. Why they determined they needed to go to that high an angle will be part of the investigation. At an altitude of about 700 meters (2,200 feet), the crew then tried to gain speed in order to avert a stall by putting the nose of the plane down. The report said the plane then went into a dive of about 75 degrees and hit the tarmac. Airplanes can sometimes recover from steep dives but they must be at a sufficiently high altitude. The committee said it took only 45 seconds from the moment the crew put the engines at maximum throttle until the moment the Boeing smashed into the ground. Such loss of control accidents are responsible for more deaths than any other type of plane crash because they are rarely survivable, according to the Flight Safety Foundation, an industry-supported global aviation safety nonprofit based in Alexandria, Virginia. The head of Tartarstan Airlines, Aksan Giniyatullin, said Tuesday that the plane's two pilots had sufficient experience, ranging from 1,900 to 2,500 hours, but admitted that they apparently had no experience with attempting a second landing. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Banned_misfits] My, but I'm one boring driver.
The Senate passed a bill, MAP21, Wednesday that requires all new cars to be equipped with data recording devices starting in 2015. Lots of cars already have these so-called event data recorders. Forbes' Kashmir Hill says: They've been around since 1996, are found in at least 60 million vehicles, and are a feature in 85% of new cars every year. Some insurance companies, like State Farm and Progressive, offer customers a reduced rate if they install the recorders. But MAP-21 is the first attempt to make the technology mandatory. The bill specifies that only the owner of the vehicle would have access to the information collected, unless 1) the owner consents otherwise; 2) a court authorizes another party to view the data; 3) certain specified types of investigations require the information; or 4) a medical team needs the information to give proper treatment. Venture Beat's Sarah Mitroff argues that since so many cars already have this little black box, the bill is not a big deal-and actually be a good thing for drivers. She writes, Despite privacy concerns over the bill, it may end up reducing privacy problems in the long run. It explicitly states that the owner of the car owns the EDR data, an issue that has been debated in the past. http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2012/04/20/event_data_recorders_mandatory_devices_and_driver_privacy_.html Gerry From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com They have to have an ODBII port to plug the dongle in so they can capture the vehicle data. Anything prior to 1995 isn't eligible, I suspect, since it would be pre-ODBII. Dan who has a transitional ODBII car On Nov 19, 2013, at 9:41 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Do you both cars insured with the same company? They let you monitor one car and not the other? How is that SLC doing, by the way? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3629/6847 - Release Date: 11/18/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WAS OT--Watch Snobs Opine NOW needing a car
As a child during the 1930s I would marvel at the very high seat backs in the interurban cars that ran from Jeffersonville, In to Louisville, Ky and return. In a childish way I assumed the seatbacks were high because people would sleep on that long (25?) mile trip. They were luxurious compared to the minimal seats in the trolley cars. The trolley car barn in Louisville was an interesting place for a child; streetcars constantly coming and going, people transferring to other trolleys, and occasionally a knife fight in front of the seedy bar across the street. I never saw the police come to a fight. BIL, who worked downtown, told me that as soon as one of the knife fighters drew blood; usually a small wound with a pocket knife; the contestants would go back inside and start drinking again. Gerry On 15/11/2013 5:58 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: the interurbans were great. harry truman used to work on the farm and then walk down the road to the interurban. in an hour he was in kansas city, which was on the tour for all cultural happenings. it opened the world up to people today you need a car. that willl cost you a couple of hundred a month any way you slice it. you need gas at 3 or 4 dollars a gallon. another thousand a year for car insurance. it's a trap and it makes you a slave i'd likve happily with a bicycle and the interurban. and for hte 4 times a year or so i really needed a private car, enterprise will come pick you up Let me suggest that if you only need to drive 4 times a year, that you call a cab. If you do not drive all of the time, you will be a menace to yourself and others on the road. If you drive all of the time, you develop a 6th sense for trouble and the finesse that does not come with occasional use of a car. My mother is a good example. She only drives a bit in the summer and I fear she may kill herself of someone else. She is in her early 80's and not the best of drivers to begin with. She did not learn until later in life after my father died and now she drives very little. A bad combination at the best of times. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3629/6844 - Release Date: 11/17/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tire fixing
I know the one you mean, Manfred. I used it working at a service station as a teenager. The one I saw at HF was not nearly as heavy or sturdy as the commercial models, so I was think perhaps someone on the list had bought one and had an opinion on it. I agree that it would need to be fastened down considering the force that must be applied. Gerry From: MG trainpain2...@aol.com I have had one of those portable tire changers for years and it works just fine. That's what used to be used to change tires for eons. Still works as long as you don't mind the work. Not too sure about the portable part as it does need to be fastened down to a concrete slab otherwise you aren't ever going to get anywhere. The portable tire balancer is also very nice as long as you remember to put the tire/wheel on there very gently. If you drop it too hard the pin that the balance cone rides on will break. That could just be a guess but... Manfred Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 07:44:07 -0500 From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com Back in the 40'-'50s-'60s I mounted and balanced my own tires when it was possible to do by hand. Since then I've been looking for a DIY rig that can change/balance modern tires. Harbor Frt has one which looks like it might work. Has anyone tried it? http://www.harborfreight.com/automotive-motorcycle/tire-wheel.html Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3629/6841 - Release Date: 11/16/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tire fixing
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 6:44 AM, Gerry Archer Back in the 40'-'50s-'60s I mounted and balanced my own tires when it was possible to do by hand. Since then I've been looking for a DIY rig that can change/balance modern tires. Harbor Frt has one which looks like it might work. Has anyone tried it? http://www.harborfreight.com/automotive-motorcycle/tire-wheel.html Dunno about the tire changers, but their wheel weights work great in Lionel locomotives! http://www.furaffinity.net/view/10581441/ -MMM- That's cool! vehicle in the foreground looks like an old time streetcar like I rode many times during the 30s. Lionel trains seem to have gotten much bigger. As a kid, my Lionel train set was much smaller. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tire fixing
Beetle tires were easy to change with two tire irons. Breaking the bead loose could be difficult, though. Breaking the bead on the newer, wider rims without a professional tire changer was nearly impossible. Gerry I changed a tire on my old VW bug once, about 1972. Taught me that while you CAN do it, the proper tools are really very very nice and save lots of work. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT--Cookware Snob Opines
Back in the '60s there were a number of research studies concerning the toxicity of aluminum. Aluminum cookware was eventually shown to be safe but aluminum containing antacids, when taken in large quantities, were not: Snip..aluminum is not as toxic as heavy metals, but there is evidence of some toxicity if it is consumed in excessive amounts. Although the use of aluminium cookware has not been shown to lead to aluminium toxicity in general, excessive consumption of antacids containing aluminium compounds and excessive use of aluminium-containing antiperspirants provide more significant exposure levels.snip http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium_poisoning#Health_concerns Gerry On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 7:07 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I regularly buy and use Guardian aluminum cookware. I have a bunch of it in the kitchen and it gets used nearly every day. It used to be sold like Tupperware, where you would have a party and invite a bunch of friends over and the salesperson would come and demo it. Also known as aluminum waterless cookware. Heavy, heavy duty stuff. Sucks to have to wash it by hand, but I love using it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tire fixing
Thank you, Jim. I might buy one since they have it at a low price in the local store. Gerry I have the HF manual tire changer. POS, of course, but you can actually change a tire with it. Absolutely needs to be nailed down, a pallet is a half-decent choice. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3629/6841 - Release Date: 11/16/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tire fixing
Back in the 40'-'50s-'60s I mounted and balanced my own tires when it was possible to do by hand. Since then I've been looking for a DIY rig that can change/balance modern tires. Harbor Frt has one which looks like it might work. Has anyone tried it? http://www.harborfreight.com/automotive-motorcycle/tire-wheel.html Thanks, Gerry .. From: Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.com Ran into something similiar here, only stricter.. the shop would not mount my tire no matter the age. Safety concerns. I've dealt with the shop for years, had a poor puppy dog look I guess... they told me to tip the mechanic, he'd be on break in 5 minutes. So I got it mounted, and it only cost me 10 instead of 12 (c: Everybody left happy. On Friday, November 15, 2013 6:48 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I had a slow leak on a tire on my truck, and a take-off from one of the SDs I wanted to put on a rim I bought, to use as a spare. I go to this tire place, they have a small corner lot, and the parking spaces in front are numbered with 2 floor jacks at each one. They have 5 or 6 in front, a few along the side that are covered, and some space out back for parking. You pull into a spot, the guy jacks the car and does the tire changing there, with a coupla bays for mounting, spinning, etc. Very efficient. I got the leak fixed (small nail) but he would not mount the old tire (which still had a fair amount of tread) since it was a 2002 vintage and he couldn't do anything over 10 years. I guess that makes sense at some level, but for a spare... Anyway, interesting shop but the spare deal kinda annoyed me. The intersection of trial lawyers and the nanny state... --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3629/6838 - Release Date: 11/15/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Plane crash
From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net A Mu2 crashed the other day in the woods near the airport here killing one our senators son. Have not heard about one crashing in a while. I have flown a lot on one of them back in the early 90s. ___ Concerns have been raised about safety; there have been 330 fatalities from MU-2 crashes. As of October 2005, the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) has begun a safety evaluation of the aircraft and decided that the aircraft has met its certification requirements - it is safe when operated by properly trained pilots who operate properly maintained aircraft. The FAA is in the process of mandating training specific to the MU-2 as it has in the past for other aircraft. When such mandated training was required outside of the U.S. the MU-2 accident record was vastly improved. Because the MU-2 offers very high performance at a relatively low cost, some of its operators lack sufficient training and experience for such an advanced aircraft. A design feature of the MU-2 is its high cruise speed while having a low landing speed. This is accomplished by using full-span, double-slotted flaps on the trailing edge of the wing. These flaps give the MU-2 a wing area comparable to a Beech King Air in landing configuration while having a wing area comparable to a light jet while in cruise mode. The full-span flaps meant that over-wing spoilers were employed instead of conventional ailerons. These spoilers are highly effective, even when the MU-2 wing is stalled. Some fatal accidents have occurred because normal engine-out procedures for light twin aircraft are not effective when flying the MU-2. The commonly taught procedure of reducing flap following an engine failure on take off leads to a critical reduction in lift in the MU-2 due to the highly effective double-slotted flaps. When pilots were taught to retain take-off flap and to reduce climb rate in the event of an engine failure, MU-2 accident rates reduced to almost nil. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_MU-2#Operational_history ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - a mess
- Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Old friend in Tallahassee built and flew electric model planes equipped with cameras after he gave up his PPL and 183R due to age. PPL? Private pilots licence. 183R? Should be 182R. Single engine Cessna with retractable landing gear. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - a mess
I'll bet that no one had a little boat with a candle in the middle that turned water into steam, put-putted like a V-1 reaction motor, and sailed around the bathtub. Sometimes wondered if a people-sized boat like that would work. Gerry From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Wow, what a trip back in time! I seem to recall mine being yellow with green trim. Strange, as over the years that's one toy I explicitly recall as a Christmas gift. Dan On Nov 10, 2013, at 9:05 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Dan Penoff wrote: I had a wind up tractor with rubber treads. It had one of those wheels that spun against a flint and made sparks out the exhaust. Never get that past the regulators today. I had one of those, and my sister did too. Think they were made by Marx. Also had a little wind up model railroad set with the spark feature. Some visiting twerp thought my tractor was too slow and shoved it so hard he stripped out the speed regulating gears. Turned it from a crawler/tractor that would run minutes on a winding into a dragster that went the same distance in a couple of seconds. Sis had a green one like this: http://search.ebay.com/390694976595 Mine was silver: http://search.ebay.com/231092315598 Both of the ebay ones are missing the tracks and the exhaust stack. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3629/6824 - Release Date: 11/10/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Silly problem
Since our rolling stock seems to be rolling and the list is slow; here is a problem I'm almost ashamed to put before the experts on the List: The Becker Grand Prix Automatic model 612 in my '83 300D was removed, and on re-installation the main, four prong plug could not be found anywhere inside the center compartment that hold the radio, climate control, and ashtray which had all been removed. The only explanation seems to be that the plug and cable have slipped down inside the center console out of sight. If anyone on the group has had this happen, I would appreciate knowing where they found it; right, left, front, back, etc. A flexible grabber might pull it up if its likely location is known. The following shows the back of the radio. The plug inserts in 1, 2, 3, and 4. http://www.beckerautosound.com/612/harness.html Next time I'll snap small jumper cables on the wires / cables as they are disconnected. Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - a mess
We were sort of rich during the 1930s Depression since father had a secure job. The result was that my parents and three older working sisters spoiled their sickly little brother with Christmas and birthday gifts. I had a Lionel train set, an Erector set, a crystal radio, and a single cylinder steam engine with a brass boiler that was heated by a 110v coil. The safety valve was a tapered (lead?) plug on a lever which had a moveable weight that could vary the pressure in the boiler and the speed of the piston / flywheel. Occasionally the safety valve would stick, the piston-flywheel would build up enough speed to make the steam engine walk around the floor, and when it came unstuck; hot water and steam would come blasting out of the safety valve. It's a wonder the brass boiler didn't blow up and/or me and my friends didn't get burnt by the steam / hot water. My son now has that little steam engine, but I don't think he has ever ran it. Tried to build one plane, a Winnie Mae, but never finished it. put together a Cox control line plane for son, which his sister promptly dove into the ground. then built a balsa wood boat designed for the little motor off the wrecked Cox. We would fire it up and head it out into the lake by a friends house. The little boat had a mind of its own. It would go one way for while and then, for no visible reason, decide to go in another direction. One day it made a great circle and headed back for the dock pilings. We thought it was a goner but it sailed through the narrow space between two pilings and ran out of fuel. I think my son still has that boat as well as the steam engine and the Lionel train set. Built a pushmobile out of crate wood and the axles off a rusted out red wagon that was very popular with the neighborhoods little girls since they could drive it with their skirts down, but that's another story. Gerry On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 08:32:17 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I do recall the little stationary steam engines that ran off an alcohol burner. Always wanted one of them. I had one. I think we used fuel pellets in it, too. I'll bet a lot of people here built models. I built a lot of planes... Yup, and missiles and tanks, too. I also built balsa/plywood/fabric model airplanes and flew them, both control-line and R/C types. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3629/6826 - Release Date: 11/11/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - a mess
Gerry Archer wrote: I'll bet that no one had a little boat with a candle in the middle that turned water into steam, put-putted like a V-1 reaction motor, and sailed around the bathtub. Sometimes wondered if a people-sized boat like that would work. I thought our tractors were cool (they had serious motive power and could climb virtually anything, very impressive for a wind up toy) but a steamjet boat would really be something. I suppose CPSC would go berserk if you gave a kid a candle and a book of matches. Mitch. They probably would. Parents were usually careful about dangerous toys but they probably thought matches and a candle in a bathtub full of water was safe enough. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3629/6826 - Release Date: 11/11/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - a mess
Our cars were Lifebuoy bar soap boxes with the passenger compartment cut out and tiny seats and dashboards made of cardboard installed. Don't remember what we used for wheels. Gerry On Nov 11, 2013, at 9:57 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: What? Y'all had store-bought toys? My tractor was made from a wood sewing thread spool, a piece of crayon, a stick and a rubber band cut from a discarded inner tube or a rarely found store-bought rubber band. My car or truck was a block of wood, complemented by perfect vocal sound effects. My boat was a piece of pine bark. My horse was a tobacco stick - that's a stick on which green leaves of tobacco are strung with tobacco twine to facilitate hanging the leaves in the drying/curing barn. My six shooter was my right hand with index finger extended to form the barrel and thumb up to form the hammer, also complemented by perfect vocal sound effects. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 8:06 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - a mess Wow, what a trip back in time! I seem to recall mine being yellow with green trim. Strange, as over the years that's one toy I explicitly recall as a Christmas gift. Dan On Nov 10, 2013, at 9:05 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Dan Penoff wrote: I had a wind up tractor with rubber treads. It had one of those wheels that spun against a flint and made sparks out the exhaust. Never get that past the regulators today. I had one of those, and my sister did too. Think they were made by Marx. Also had a little wind up model railroad set with the spark feature. Some visiting twerp thought my tractor was too slow and shoved it so hard he stripped out the speed regulating gears. Turned it from a crawler/tractor that would run minutes on a winding into a dragster that went the same distance in a couple of seconds. Sis had a green one like this: http://search.ebay.com/390694976595 Mine was silver: http://search.ebay.com/231092315598 Both of the ebay ones are missing the tracks and the exhaust stack. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3629/6826 - Release Date: 11/11/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - a mess
Electric engine model planes seem to be the currently most popular. This big subdivision where I live has a model plane airport which I think is exclusively for electric planes since fuel engine planes could cause fires if they crashed in this wooded area. Old friend in Tallahassee built and flew electric model planes equipped with cameras after he gave up his PPL and 183R due to age. Some of the videos he took from the plane are remarkable. Gerry From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com My sister had a boyfriend who gave my brother and I his old Cox two cycle airplanes. I took the PT-19 with the rubber bands that held it together. My brother got a Stuka dive bomber. I flew the PT-19 all the time. Fly it into the ground? Boom! Parts separate and you just put them back together, maybe break a rubber band at worst. My brother was afraid to fly the Stuka, fearing that he might crash and destroy it. After he had watched me fly (and crash) the PT-19 for several months I finally convinced him to let me try and fly the Stuka. We set it up, get it running, and off it goes into the air with me on the controls. About a minute into the flight, one of the control lines breaks and it lives up to it's namesake and dives directly into the ground. The results were not pretty. Fortunately, my flying skills were not at fault, since there was nothing I could do to recover with no controls. And just to clarify, these were the Cox brand planes that you flew in a circle with the control lines. Made you dizzy as heck until you got used to them... Dan On Nov 11, 2013, at 10:33 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 08:32:17 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I do recall the little stationary steam engines that ran off an alcohol burner. Always wanted one of them. I had one. I think we used fuel pellets in it, too. I'll bet a lot of people here built models. I built a lot of planes... Yup, and missiles and tanks, too. I also built balsa/plywood/fabric model airplanes and flew them, both control-line and R/C types. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3629/6826 - Release Date: 11/11/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Silly problem
I tried that but the connector is probably down, back, and under where it can't be seen. I even tried a Milwaukee Digital Inspection Camera received as a present several years ago, but the four foot shaft is a flexible steel tube that isn't very flexible and wouldn't make the turn inside the compartment. Looks like I'll have to take out the console. One consolation is that the bulbs for everything in the console can be replaced while it's off. Thanks to both y'all for the suggestions, Gerry From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Shine a flashlight into the opening. It's there somewhere. Rich Thomas wrote: It's not that hard to get the console out, or to remove the surround for the shifter, if you need to fish around a bit. That said, it has been awhile since I did it, and don't remember exactly how, but I think there are a coupla screws on either side of the console sorta low to the front, then it can slide straight back and out. After you remove the shifter surround and maybe unscrew the shifter. --R On 11/11/13 1:56 PM, Gerry Archer wrote: Since our rolling stock seems to be rolling and the list is slow; here is a problem I'm almost ashamed to put before the experts on the List: The Becker Grand Prix Automatic model 612 in my '83 300D was removed, and on re-installation the main, four prong plug could not be found anywhere inside the center compartment that hold the radio, climate control, and ashtray which had all been removed. The only explanation seems to be that the plug and cable have slipped down inside the center console out of sight. If anyone on the group has had this happen, I would appreciate knowing where they found it; right, left, front, back, etc. A flexible grabber might pull it up if its likely location is known. The following shows the back of the radio. The plug inserts in 1, 2, 3, and 4. http://www.beckerautosound.com/612/harness.html Next time I'll snap small jumper cables on the wires / cables as they are disconnected. Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3629/6826 - Release Date: 11/11/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Silly problem
You and Rich are refreshing my memory since I haven't had it out in about 10 years. Thanks, Gerry MEANT to say, Isn't there also a SCREW in bottom of the console tray near rear of console and above the drive shaft tunnel? Wilt - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Silly problem Yes that just pops out (I think) or there might be a screw to hold it in? --R On 11/11/13 6:02 PM, WILTON wrote: Isn't there also in bottom console tray near rear of the console? Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Silly problem It's not that hard to get the console out, or to remove the surround for the shifter, if you need to fish around a bit. That said, it has been awhile since I did it, and don't remember exactly how, but I think there are a coupla screws on either side of the console sorta low to the front, then it can slide straight back and out. After you remove the shifter surround and maybe unscrew the shifter. --R On 11/11/13 1:56 PM, Gerry Archer wrote: Since our rolling stock seems to be rolling and the list is slow; here is a problem I'm almost ashamed to put before the experts on the List: The Becker Grand Prix Automatic model 612 in my '83 300D was removed, and on re-installation the main, four prong plug could not be found anywhere inside the center compartment that hold the radio, climate control, and ashtray which had all been removed. The only explanation seems to be that the plug and cable have slipped down inside the center console out of sight. If anyone on the group has had this happen, I would appreciate knowing where they found it; right, left, front, back, etc. A flexible grabber might pull it up if its likely location is known. The following shows the back of the radio. The plug inserts in 1, 2, 3, and 4. http://www.beckerautosound.com/612/harness.html Next time I'll snap small jumper cables on the wires / cables as they are disconnected. Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3629/6826 - Release Date: 11/11/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints
Okay, if Scott has a very heavy duty vice, a breakover handle, a cheater pipe that fits the breakover handle, and a local Autozone, he can try the cheapest way to remove it. Autozone loans the tool free. You pay new price and they refund when you bring it back. Don't know if 126s are similar to 123s, but I found that Autozones biggest ball joint remover would fit over the king pin balljoint(s?) in my 123. I chucked it in a big, heavy duty vice and used a piece of pipe over a breakover handle for more leverage. It took a good bit of strength , but suddenly there was a loud pop and it was out. Don't remember how new one was installed, but I didn't take it to a shop. Been about 100K miles with the car and everything is still tight. That was ten years ago, so description may not be exact. Gerry P.S. I let it soak in Rust Eater (Autozone), WD-40, Blaster, and 3 or 4 other potions over night before removing it, but I don't think that had much effect. P.S. #2 Might pay to call A-zone first to be sure they still loan tools. . From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net You want to have a Benz shop press in the new ones. Getting the old ones out involves a BFH and the knuckle on a vise or something that can take the pounding. A little PB might help, and the hot wrench, but mostly just the BFH. --R On 11/9/13 5:32 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: What started out as a brake job has grown to include replacing the lower ball joints as well (torn boots). I'm doing one side at a time and I've removed the knuckle from the left side so far. I tried some modest pounding with a 3 lb hammer to remove the old ball joint but so far it appears not to have moved. The main problem (I think) is holding the knuckle still while I try to drive the old BJ out. Does anyone have any advice here? My backup plan is to take the knuckle and the new ball joint to a local shop that has a press and see if they can do the job. I welcome the voice of experience from anyone who has done this job (or seen it done). Thanks, Scott ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3629/6822 - Release Date: 11/09/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Heated Windshield Washer Hose? Oh, Pru-NELLA!
Disconnect the hose to the nozzles and force water through them from the ouside. Doesn't take much crud to clog them up, and the best cure is to back-flush. Some cars have heated nozzles, too! I put a small filter in the line near the hood hinge several years ago. Haven't had a nozzle plug up since then in my '83 300D. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale
Myrick is a not uncommon name; many here in Florida. It has an interesting history: This ancient surname recorded in the spellings of Meyric, Meyrick, Merrick and the American Myrick, is of Anglo-Welsh origins. The first of which is Welsh, and derives from Meyric, the Prince of Cardigan, and head of the North Wales tribe based upon Bodorgan, in the Isle of Anglesey. It is claimed that the Welsh origin is of Norman descent, being a form of Maurice, and dating back to King John of England in 1199. The second origin is Norman, and may be the same source as the first. It derives from the Old French personal name Maurice introduced into England after the Conquest of 1066. This name is composed of the Germanic elements meri or mari, meaning fame, and ric, meaning power. The third possible origin is Scottish, and as such a locational surname from the place called Merrick situated near Minigaff in Dumfries and Galloway. This placename is derived from the Gaelic word meurach meaning a branch or fork of a road or river. Early examples of the surname recordings include Henrye Merriche in the Poll Tax rolls of Yorkshire in 1379, David Meyrick of Bodorgan, North wales in the year 1415 and Richard Merrick, who married Martha Tither in London in 1610. One of the earliest settlers in the New world was, John Merrick Esq., who in 1678 was recorded in the parish of St. Andrew's in the Isle of Barbados, as having 266 acres of land and six servants. The first recorded spelling of the family name is shown to be that of Meuric de Hope, which was dated 1272, in the charter rolls known as 'Testa de Neville', during the reign of King Edward 1st, known as 'The hammer of the Scots', 1272 - 1307. Surnames became necessary when governments introduced personal taxation. In England this was known as Poll Tax. Throughout the centuries, surnames in every country have continued to develop often leading to astonishing variants of the original spelling. http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Myrick#ixzz2kADAjUvK http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Myrick Gerry .. I think that family in my home town of Nashville, NC, is the only Myrick family (man, wife, adopted daughter) I've known. Wilton - Original Message - From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 11:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale No real connection to your story (that I know of), but Myrick is not a common name in these parts, yet I live on Myrick Airport, here in OK (33OK). On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 6:43 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: What's her name? Anne Myrick, he answered. I exclaimed, She's the pretty, sweet little 3 or 4-year-old daughter of the Stedman's Grocery Store manager in Nashville -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3629/6821 - Release Date: 11/08/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BP and Shell 'rigged Brent oil price for a decade',
Gerry wrote: BP and Shell 'rigged Brent oil price for a decade', traders claim No mention in media here? What's up? mao In the U.S., transnational corporations have great influence. News media that prints this story on the front page might see their advertising revenue from big oil reduced. The story will likely be printed in major U.S.media, if it hasn't been already, but it will likely be a short story on one of the back pages. Left wing U.S. journals and blogs are probably reporting it, but I don't read left wing journals and blogs. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] BP and Shell 'rigged Brent oil price for a decade',
BP and Shell 'rigged Brent oil price for a decade', traders claim Oil giants BP and Royal Dutch Shell are accused by traders of manipulating the Brent crude oil price for more than a decade. European investigators have said the alleged price-rigging could have had a 'huge impact' on the cost of oil Photo: ALAMY By Emily Gosden 11:15AM GMT 06 Nov 2013 BP and Royal Dutch Shell have been accused of manipulating the Brent crude oil price for more than a decade, in allegations filed in a lawsuit in New York. The North Sea oil benchmark is used as the basis for trades across the global commodity markets, affecting the price of thousands of consumer products from petrol to food. The class action claim, brought by four traders, was lodged last month in the wake of the European Commission in May launching an investigation into alleged price rigging by the companies. The court filing alleges that the companies - along with Norway's Statoil, Morgan Stanley, Trafigura, Vitol and others - monopolized the Brent Crude Oil market and entered into an unlawful combination, agreement, and conspiracy to fix and restrain trade in, and intentionally manipulate Brent Crude Oil prices and the prices of Brent Crude oil futures contracts. It alleges the rigging took place through the companies deliberately reporting inaccurate, misleading, and false information regarding Brent Crude Oil prices and transactions to Platts, one of the key price-reporting agencies. By providing false or inaccurate information and engaging in false or sham trading, defendants undermined the entire pricing structure for the Brent Crude Oil physical and futures markets, it alleges. The lawsuit does not name Platts as a defendant but alleges that the method by which Platts collects data to set the price can be easily gamed by market participants that make false, inaccurate or misleading trades. It warns: Crude oil is one of the most vital commodities in the world, serving as the essential product for modern end-use applications varying from household plastics to transportation.Brent Crude Oil is in high demand and serves as a benchmark for two-thirds of the world's internationally-traded crude oil supplies. In May the EC raided the offices of companies including BP, Shell and Statoil. It warned that even small distortions of assessed prices may have a huge impact on the prices of crude oil, refined oil products and biofuels purchases and sales, potentially harming final consumers. The US Federal Trade Commission in June launched its own investigation into the allegations. It is understood the US regulators asked Shell to provide them with the same information it had provided to European authorities, but that the Anglo-Dutch giant referred them back to Brussels. BP and Shell both declined to comment. Shell's chief executive, Peter Voser, has previously declared that the company has nothing to hide. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/10429918/BP-and-Shell-rigged-Brent-oil-price-for-a-decade-traders-claim.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] All alone again.
From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca Do you mean 1 and 2 of rain? .1 and .2 does not sound like it would make things very soggy. And, yes, we are not anxious to have snow either. It has been all around us I think but not here yet. Had a good Sunday doing yard work. Ran the mower around without the bagger and mulched a bunch of the leaves. Got the leaf blower out and sucked up a bunch of the leaves that were in the areas under shrubs etc that could not be mowed. Drained the rain barrel which had about a 2 inch thick plug of ice on the top. Etc. Was tired at the end of the day. Still have things I want to do outside so hope that the weather holds for a bit more. Want to change the oil and grease the snow blower etc. Most winters it is used very little but I like to keep it in good shape and ready to go in case we get a blizzard that buries us. Most of the time I just shovel the walks and we don't have a big driveway - garage opens onto the back lane so not a whole lot to clear most of the time. Would also like to fire up the generator and make sure it runs etc. Always things to do and some get put off to the next year if it snows too soon. Randy On 05/11/2013 8:59 AM, Craig wrote: I'm also in the process of applying to Gordon College for their physics professor opening, but wouldn't have posted about that except for your forlorn missive, Wilton. I wish you success with your work on the rental house. Craig - Gordon College sounds like a good fit for you, Craig. I admire your persistence. Gordon College is a liberal arts college located on the former Princemere estate in Wenham, Massachusetts, United States, northeast of Beverly. Founded by Baptist minister A. J. Gordon as a missionary training institute, Address: 255 Grapevine Road, Wenham, Massachusetts, United States of America, 01984 Undergraduates: 1,514 (2010) Ranking: #144 National Liberal Arts College (2012) Acceptance rate: 40% (2010) Tuition: $30,626 USD (2011) Date founded: 1889 http://www.gordon.edu/ Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT but important
I have the butt doctors calling me up cold. I should put the notes on the wall and toss a dart at it to see who I go with. clay On Nov 2, 2013, at 10:46 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Well for some reason my dr sent me to get scoped about 5 years ago. That was fun I tell you. I got a letter in the mail saying it was about time to get another scope. I have not had that done. As I am a long way away from 50 I figure they are just trying to rack up a bill or something. On Nov 2, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I think the recommended thing is to get scoped around 50, then future scopings are based on how things look the first time out. From there I believe they say every 10 years if things look good. My GP has been bugging me about it for 2-3 years. I finally gave in when the wife hassled me about it and I used it to push her into getting her hip replaced, as in I'll get a colonoscopy after you get your hip replaced. I lost that bet, but it was for a good cause. Now it's time for the payoff. Dan On Nov 2, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: For whatever it is worth my resident expert suggests those of a certain age should get scoped every so many years (and I can't remember how many but it is probably such that I need to get scoped again soon myself). --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3615/6806 - Release Date: 11/03/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fuel Cell Toyota
Toyota has developed a new long-range electric vehicle powered entirely by a cutting-edge fuel cell. The project represents a dramatic departure from the goal of developing a mass-produced, effective, battery-driven electric car. But what does it mean for our future?.snip At this year's Tokyo Motor Show in late November, Toyota is planning to unveil a sedan that will be the world's first series-produced fuel-cell car to be sold on the market. According to Toyota, it will be available for purchase in 2015.snip No one can predict whether the fuel cell car will ultimately be the key to our automotive future. But the competition is certainly impressed by Toyota's dedication. I have great respect for Toyota, because they think on a long-term basis and they don't engage in technology hopping, says Herbert Kohler, head of RD at Daimler. Daimler has since invested more than ?1 billion ($1.37 billion) in fuel cell drives, has entered into an RD alliance with Ford and Nissan to bring down costs and is preparing for possible series production of the technology..snip http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/toyota-develops-new-fuel-cell-car-a-930834.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Sexiest aircraft. was: One for Milt
BIL was a Studebaker fan. Had a '46 Studebaker pickup that got 26 mpg with big tires on the back. Then he bought a sedan with a little propeller on its pointy grill. Finally a little four door V-8 hotrod. Dealership closed and he was never happy with his Fords or Chevys until the GM Saturn. He was still bragging about his Saturn the year he died. Gerry Studebakers weren't so bad. The little Superhawk was a nice car. I knew a fellow who drove one for a very long time. Black with a white stripe on the side. V8 and a manual transmission with overdrive. Quite the little hotrod for its time in the early 60's. And how about the Avanti? I had an uncle who drove a really ugly one. 4 door sedan that was somewhat rounded and sort of a pinky tan colour. But he put a lot of miles on the silly looking thing. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3615/6799 - Release Date: 11/01/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT but important
This must be the season for colonoscopies. I'll be seeing a gastro on Tuesday and will probably be scheduled then. About ten years ago he found a polyp and removed it. Had I not had the colonoscopy then, I most likely wouldn't be here today; having died a protracted and painful death. I'm overdue for this one due to having had kidney surgery, but since I haven't had anymore polyps since the first one was removed, there is reason to be optimistic. Gerry From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com I have to prep starting on Sunday. He said I could wait until Monday morning, but I am off all that week so I figure I'll start a little bit ahead so I'm nice and clean inside. I was asking about his ADR percentage, which he said was in the high teens. He prefaced it by stating that this measurement can be skewed by patients who don't prep properly or with enough time, so it's not an absolute when you come to comparing doctors. In fact, he said that it's not beyond him to start and see that someone hasn't prepped well and stop the procedure, something he said that other doctors might not do. He said that he's had more than one patient who he has told to reschedule the procedure if they're not clean because they cheated when it came to the prep. I picked this guy carefully. I wanted someone who had privileges at Tampa General, the leading teaching hospital in the area. In the part of town I live in, all the local practitioners go to a smaller suburban hospital that has a less than stellar reputation. He only schedules two patients an hour, so I had a good 20 minutes (or more if I wanted it) to speak with him. Dan On Nov 1, 2013, at 3:44 PM, Craig wrote: On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 13:00:25 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: That works. I set it up for the Tuesday before Thanksgiving. I figure that will give me lots of room for Thanksgiving gluttony. I've been through it and found it not too bad. Some people have problems with the prep. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3615/6799 - Release Date: 11/01/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RIP Woger
From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Just saw on the Hitler lis that Roger passed due to complications from prostate cancer on September 16. I'm sure he's driving a nice Porsche now...Rest in peace, Roger. Amen! Rest in Peace, Roger. Prostate cancer is a hard way to die. It's usually controllable or preventable if caught early. A simple yearly exam by a family doctor is good insurance against a painful death. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Sexiest aircraft. was: One for Milt
Those of us who go back that far remember that it was often called an Ethel and why. All the jokes and it's infamous grill were often credited with its failure in the marketplace. Gerry From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com Brings to mind, a very old joke which circulated in that era of automobiles. What is the definition of bad decisions: A pregnant prostitute, driving an Edsel, with a Nixon - Lodge bumper sticker on the back bumper. If you were alive during that time... it will resonate... if you are from another time... not so much. Hans, et al. Is that the fabulous 190 edsel? Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 5:27 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Sexiest aircraft. was: One for Milt Are we not forgetting the Edsel? On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 12:07 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm - good list. It's hard to narrow down to a few graet cars. On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 12:05 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Original raced at Le-mans GT40 with full documents Bill Thomas Cheeta Original aluminum body AC Cobra with 289 Ford engine [Owned one, sold it upon enlistment in military, glove box was completely full of speeding tickets] 1934 Packard V12, 3 window coupe On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: OK Don wrote: XKE coupe original 300SL +1 mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3615/6794 - Release Date: 10/30/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Bilateral Knee Replacement
There are many variables: Skill of surgeon (less trauma), age of patient, weight of patient (some surgeons will not do knee/hip replacements on overweight patients.) pain threshold of patient, general condition of patient, etc.,etc. BIL, age 65, in Quarryville, Pa was up and walking the next day after surgery. He was an active farmer whose bones and muscles were probably in excellent condition. He was very thin. Gerry .. From: Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net That is hard for me to imagine. Just the level of pain meds I have been on precludes driving, but even without I don't feel like I have the muscular capability yet for driving. Perhaps he had some bilateral orthoscopic instead of total replacement??? My old D.O. had his done together. Don't know what brand of replacements he got, but he drove to my office a couple of days after the surgery to pick up his grandsons (my boss was his son). He'd closed his office for the whole week and got bored after two days of recuperation. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Sexiest aircraft. was: One for Milt
OK Don wrote: I agree with the SR-71 being the most sexy aircraft, and thing the F104 is the second (not to fly, jsut to look at). P51 would be third, and P38 fourth. What's the sexiest car of all time? Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: the irony of it (watch related)
From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com people wear rolexes to shout ot to the world look at me! i'm a used car salesman with a 4th grade reading level and an IQ of 83, yet i have 10 times the money you have! On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: It's all personal taste. Why do people wear big, bulky Rolex Oysters? The most logical and practical wrist watches ever sold are the solid state, battery operated, such as Casio's $20 up models. Waterproof, almost indestructible, and with batteries that last for years. As soon as Samsungs Smartwatch comes out it will be the latest thing in wristwatches. [:o) http://computerwristwatches.**com/ http://computerwristwatches.com/ Gerry . From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com maybe if i wore it on the side of my wrist but the top part is pretty flat. it's more a novelty thing, a sales gimmick. if it really made sense, why are none made today and why were so few made back when they were being made? On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com** wrote: How so? Curved to fit the wrist. Perfectly logical. Gerry From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com i always found the curvex's goofy On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: Should have saved my Gruen Curvex. Gerry From: ernest breakfield ernestb@BackYardEngineering.**ORG heck, when i asked how water-resistant (not water-proof!) an old Elgin of mine was, the response from the watchmaker was: heck, that ain't even FOG proof! it's still beautiful, and like most of my old watches, it still works wonderfully. cheers! e A 1938 Elgin has a snap-back case, no they are NOT sealed, cannot be worn near water, nor in fact if you sweat a lot. A pain, but they are lovely watches. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/** archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_** okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/**mailman/**listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.* *comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_** okiebenz.comhttp://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3615/6779 - Release Date: 10/24/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3615/6779 - Release Date: 10/24/13 __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery
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Re: [MBZ] [Banned] the irony of it (watch related)
Should have saved my Gruen Curvex. Gerry From: ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org heck, when i asked how water-resistant (not water-proof!) an old Elgin of mine was, the response from the watchmaker was: heck, that ain't even FOG proof! it's still beautiful, and like most of my old watches, it still works wonderfully. cheers! e A 1938 Elgin has a snap-back case, no they are NOT sealed, cannot be worn near water, nor in fact if you sweat a lot. A pain, but they are lovely watches. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] the irony of it (watch related)
How so? Curved to fit the wrist. Perfectly logical. Gerry From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com i always found the curvex's goofy On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: Should have saved my Gruen Curvex. Gerry From: ernest breakfield ernestb@BackYardEngineering.**ORG heck, when i asked how water-resistant (not water-proof!) an old Elgin of mine was, the response from the watchmaker was: heck, that ain't even FOG proof! it's still beautiful, and like most of my old watches, it still works wonderfully. cheers! e A 1938 Elgin has a snap-back case, no they are NOT sealed, cannot be worn near water, nor in fact if you sweat a lot. A pain, but they are lovely watches. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3615/6779 - Release Date: 10/24/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: the irony of it (watch related)
It's all personal taste. Why do people wear big, bulky Rolex Oysters? The most logical and practical wrist watches ever sold are the solid state, battery operated, such as Casio's $20 up models. Waterproof, almost indestructible, and with batteries that last for years. As soon as Samsungs Smartwatch comes out it will be the latest thing in wristwatches. [:o) http://computerwristwatches.com/ Gerry . From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com maybe if i wore it on the side of my wrist but the top part is pretty flat. it's more a novelty thing, a sales gimmick. if it really made sense, why are none made today and why were so few made back when they were being made? On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: How so? Curved to fit the wrist. Perfectly logical. Gerry From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com i always found the curvex's goofy On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com**wrote: Should have saved my Gruen Curvex. Gerry From: ernest breakfield ernestb@BackYardEngineering.ORG heck, when i asked how water-resistant (not water-proof!) an old Elgin of mine was, the response from the watchmaker was: heck, that ain't even FOG proof! it's still beautiful, and like most of my old watches, it still works wonderfully. cheers! e A 1938 Elgin has a snap-back case, no they are NOT sealed, cannot be worn near water, nor in fact if you sweat a lot. A pain, but they are lovely watches. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3615/6779 - Release Date: 10/24/13 __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3615/6779 - Release Date: 10/24/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Solar races in OZ
Solar Team Eindhoven's Stella, one of Hollands entries in this years solar challenge, will be the shape of the futures family cars IMO: Gerry http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/05/wacky_racers_ithe_regis_guide_to_2013s_solar_challengers/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Compressor seized
Thanks, Alex. Might as well resign myself to removing the pump in order to flush it next time. Gerry Gerry Archer wrote: Also, when cleaning the system that way, do you flush the pump as well, It's always been my impression that that was a critical step. and if so, how do you get all the solvent out of the pump without removing it from the car? I don't know how you would, unless the hose arrangement in the particular car you're working on was such that you could remove all attachments in situ from the compressor and attach a flushing system in a fluid-tight way. Certainly in a 124, for example, there's no way that's going to work. When I replaced a leaky manifold in the '87 and refilled it two summers ago, I took the compressor off the car and repeatedly filled it with mineral spirits, operated the pulley manually, and turned it over several times to make sure the solvent was distributed well. Then gave it a final flush with acetone the same way. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3614/6755 - Release Date: 10/16/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Front mats for '83 240D
Just received what appears to be genuine Mercedes mats for my '83 240D; perfect color match; $182 incl frt. makes a big difference in appearance when the drivers side doors are opened. Gerry On Oct 6, 2013 4:14 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Looks like the palomino in my 91 350SDL; 2 sets of 'em went with it to Chapel Hill with Tim. Yep, not sure the 126 mats fit in the 123 though. I thought you could read interior color off the VIN panel. I have non-original but OE mats (I think from an 83) in the 77 that are slightly lighter than the old ones. I would have described both interiors as Palomino, but the difference is obvious close up. I tracked in a bunch of leaves so now I don't notice it anymore. ;) Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3614/6753 - Release Date: 10/15/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Front mats for '83 240D
It is, but the car is in such good condition inside and out, I figured it would only add to its value. I've had some significant offers for it, possibly because it's stick-shift, manual climate control, crank-up windows, and it's general condition. Thought about it, but what could I buy to replace it that would be as safe, reliable, and easy to drive? At 27 mpg road and city the fuel-saving numbers don't add up if I sold it and bought a late model or new car. Gerry From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Man that seems expensive Just received what appears to be genuine Mercedes mats for my '83 240D; perfect color match; $182 incl frt. makes a big difference in appearance when the drivers side doors are opened. Gerry On Oct 6, 2013 4:14 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Looks like the palomino in my 91 350SDL; 2 sets of 'em went with it to Chapel Hill with Tim. Yep, not sure the 126 mats fit in the 123 though. I thought you could read interior color off the VIN panel. I have non-original but OE mats (I think from an 83) in the 77 that are slightly lighter than the old ones. I would have described both interiors as Palomino, but the difference is obvious close up. I tracked in a bunch of leaves so now I don't notice it anymore. ;) Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3614/6753 - Release Date: 10/15/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3614/6753 - Release Date: 10/15/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Compressor seized
I bought a Texas compressor from Rusty about a year and a half ago and it's still doing well. Apparently we only have a choice of the Texas or the Chinese compressors although I did see a listing for a Japanese compressor somewhere? Gerry From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com it's basically a delco R4 radial compressor with metric fittings. i sell the texas ones from the group who i'm told bought the tooling from GM. most go for the cheap behr chinese knockoff in any case, 7 years plus is still a while On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I'm not sure it could be classified as premature as we have had the car 4 or 5 years, and it was converted over at least a coupla years prior to that. I have the full service receipt package for the car, I could look through there and find out if the compressor was ever swapped, or if it was done when the conversion was done. In any case, the compressor is say 7+ yr old, which I suppose is not really indicative of age-related failure, but would not be unexpected. I don't even know what kind it is, where is the name plate on it? It gets fairly nasty down there, I will have to clean it off at some point and see what it is. Wasn't there an assertion that some domestic compressor would fit if turned upside down or something? --R On 10/16/13 1:07 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: how old is the compressor? there are two lines of discussions i've heard on this lately with premature compressor failure, neither having to do with 134 1. there is still crap in the system from the last compressor that blew up. some are advocating adding an additional filter in the line 2 these cheap crappy chinese behr compressors people buy from unscrupulous vendors just blow up as they are super cheap and crappy o dpm t don't have a good feeling on an answer but i wouldn't be thinking 134 did this to you. also, if the compressor is decades old, that might have something to do with it On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@**constructivity.netrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: The 84 SD was getting a bit of TLC and I noticed the compressor belt was sorta wrapped around the fan. h not good. I put it back on, started the engine, hit the AC button and WHAM engine stops. I figured the compressor was seized, daughter said it was not cooling, that confirmed it. Car had 134 conversion, was working quite well. Wondering if that had something to do with the failure, or just age and use and such. I guess it is new compressor time, maybe in a coupla months. I know there has been lots of discussion of compressor replacement, system cleaning and such, but any thoughts would be useful in my hour of grief. In particular continuing with the 134. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3614/6753 - Release Date: 10/15/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Compressor seized
Back in the R-12 days a buck stepped in front of my Dodge on a foggy night and broke several A/C lines among other things. At the A/C shop the mechanic shot something through the condenser that smelled like mineral spirits and he verified that it was mineral spirits. I buy quart cans of A/C flushing solvent and pump the contents repeatedly through all components after installing a new pump; which seems to work okay, but I've always wondered if much cheaper mineral spirits could be used in larger quantities when converting from R-134 back to R-12 or one of the propane-butane mixes. Also, when cleaning the system that way, do you flush the pump as well, and if so, how do you get all the solvent out of the pump without removing it from the car? Thanks, Gerry You really need to get all the old oil out, and do a very good job of leak repair and vacuum -- R134a produces hydrofluoric acid in the presence of heat and water, very corrosive. Absolutely dry is a must, unlike R12 which breaks down less (but not that much less). The ester or polyol oils used for 134a do not mix with the old mineral oil at all, with the result that there is a mist of mineral oil suspended in the gas stream instead of dissolved in it, and that can cause trouble too. In a clean system with the correct oil, 134A systems will run as long as R12 systems. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Front mats for '83 240D
I paid about $170 incl. shipping for a full set of what are supposed to be genuine Mercedes. If the color doesn't match the upholstery, I'll send them back and buy yours. Gerry From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Mine are fairly worn but not too bad. Some oil had spilled on one but I got it mostly out and a shot with our carpet shampoo'er might fix 'em even more. I was thinking in the range of $50 for the front pair (or all 4 if I can find the rears which are mostly perfect. I think they were around $200 new for all 4. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: PC Computer hardware questiion
Hi Richard and Alex, Got the laptop apart and found that it doesn't have a filter. I'm guessing that the fan assembly is a heat pipe system with the fan pulling air in through various places in the case and blowing it out through two radiators that cool the two heat pipes. The radiators are perfectly clean and the fan has a minimal amont of dust, but there is dust under the fan. A website on cleaning the fan in this Lenovo T-60 series laptop says to simply blow out the dust wherever it is. It also says to replace the heat sink paste with the highest quality paste. The only heat sink paste I have is from Radio Shack which has worked well with desktops. Don't know whether I should set the Lenovo aside and order top quality paste or just go ahead and use Radio Shack paste? Gerry From: Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.com Check/clean the fan filter. If the case has unusual heating situations, it will do funny things with a touchpad or pencil eraser mouse. Alex Chamberlain wrote: Seconded. I've BTDT with Thinkpads before. Luckily they're very easy to take apart, as laptops go. Alex arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Grandson gave me his Lenovo Thinkpad the school provided after he graduated. It worked fine for several months, but then developed a crawling pointer fault. The pointer very slowly crawls toward the hinge after the computer warms up. I'd very much appreciate your opinions on the likeliest cause. I've fixed other boards by replacing the electrolytic capacitors but never tried it on a laptop board. Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: PC Computer hardware questiion
How about that! mayonnaise does as well as many commercial pastes! That list has let me make a decision. Since there doesn't seem to be much difference between the commercial brands with only a few exceptions, I went ahead and used Radio Shack paste. It's been running about an hour and the pointer has moved, so maybe that was the problem. Thanks, Gerry From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net Ever wonder how well Mustard or Chocolate work as thermal paste on a CPU? http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Thermal-Compound-Roundup-February-2012/1490/5 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Front mats for '83 240D
Aw, shoot! Ordered a set about a week ago and they're on the way or might even be here by now. What's your price? I might like your set better than the others. Gerry From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com What color? I have a decent set of tan MB ones I'd sell for a fraction of the original price... -Curt Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2013 18:02:51 -0400 From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Front mats for '83 240D Message-ID: 33A6E34479B6411CAC66648F74CCD67B@PC466116028214 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Who sells well fitting, long lasting front mats for '83 140D? Gary? Anyone? Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3609/6740 - Release Date: 10/10/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: PC Computer hardware questiion
Got the laptop back together after cleaning the fan/radiators, cleaning the dried heat paste off the cpu, etc., and rebedding with RS heat sink paste. Ran it for an hour on battery, and it's been running about three hours on 110v. THE POINTER HASN'T MOVED ONE MILLIMETER!!! You were obviously correct about the cause, Richard and Alex. Many thanks. Also, many thanks to John, Mitch, and anyone I missed. I agree, Alex, it's a nice computer to work on; much easier than the only other laptop I've repaired; a (Taiwanese?) no name. Gerry From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com Got the laptop apart and found that it doesn't have a filter. I'm guessing that the fan assembly is a heat pipe system with the fan pulling air in through various places in the case and blowing it out through two radiators that cool the two heat pipes. The radiators are perfectly clean and the fan has a minimal amont of dust, but there is dust under the fan. A website on cleaning the fan in this Lenovo T-60 series laptop says to simply blow out the dust wherever it is. It also says to replace the heat sink paste with the highest quality paste. The only heat sink paste I have is from Radio Shack which has worked well with desktops. Don't know whether I should set the Lenovo aside and order top quality paste or just go ahead and use Radio Shack paste? Gerry From: Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.com Check/clean the fan filter. If the case has unusual heating situations, it will do funny things with a touchpad or pencil eraser mouse. Alex Chamberlain wrote: Seconded. I've BTDT with Thinkpads before. Luckily they're very easy to take apart, as laptops go. Alex arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Grandson gave me his Lenovo Thinkpad the school provided after he graduated. It worked fine for several months, but then developed a crawling pointer fault. The pointer very slowly crawls toward the hinge after the computer warms up. I'd very much appreciate your opinions on the likeliest cause. I've fixed other boards by replacing the electrolytic capacitors but never tried it on a laptop board. Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3609/6740 - Release Date: 10/10/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: PC Computer hardware questiion
Grandson gave me his Lenovo Thinkpad the school provided after he graduated. It worked fine for several months, but then developed a crawling pointer fault. The pointer very slowly crawls toward the hinge after the computer warms up. I'd very much appreciate your opinions on the likeliest cause. I've fixed other boards by replacing the electrolytic capacitors but never tried it on a laptop board. Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Electric motorcycles
Los Angeles Police Chief Charlie Beck made a surprising entrance at the Los Angeles Police Museum last month when he stealthily zipped into the parking lot on a souped-up, racing-style, all-electric motorcycle. An avid motocross racer, Beck parked the bike just yards away from where retired police cars from the 1930s to 1950s now rest. It was a striking study in contrasts and a visual of the LAPD's continuing efforts to upgrade its technology. The department, under Beck's direction, is now testing two types of electric motorcycles as part of an effort to increase efficiency, decrease its carbon footprint and ultimately cut costs. Such electric bikes are already used by a growing number of police departments across the country, from New York to Oregon, and around the world, including in Bogota, Colombia and Hong Kong... http://seattletimes.com/text/2021994294.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] UPDATE! Front mats for '83 240D
Hi Dwight, I went ahead and ordered what are supposed to be official Mercedes mats from AutoParts.com via Ebay. If they aren't, Paypal gaurantees I can return them. Thanks, Gerry From: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com Gerry I got them from Rusty. About 120 IIRC. I got them for my coupe so sold back ones to a lister. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Who wanted a car cam?
Did you buy one? Try it out? Gerry From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net This one has a very interesting featured use H.264 720P Wide Angle 6-LED Night Viewing Digital Car DVR Camcorder w/ Mini USB/SD/HDMI (2.5 LCD) Car DVR can help you to prove what happened in the event of a road traffic incident. Also help you to record happy moments in the car. $52.20 http://edm.tradeglobals.com/Tracking/ClickLink?ID=7e0552da-c599-4388-841c-6c7e5b76f598url=http://e.dx.com/collection/201310/car-accessories/default.html?utm_source=dx%26utm_medium=edm%26utm_campaign=20131007caraccessories --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4142 / Virus Database: 3604/6730 - Release Date: 10/07/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Adventure of the day
There was a used, propane fired steam cleaner about the size of a handtruck on Ebay for $400 and I was really tempted to order it. Nearly every town used to have a number of places that did auto steam cleaning. I had it done several times and never had anything damaged. If you get a pressure washer nozzle set just strong enough to clean an engine, and then get it just a little too close to wiring, tubing, and belts; it will eat the rubber right out and leave the fabric if there is any. Gerry From: clay redgh...@comcast.net About steam hot - 100c. Much less than flame hot of 400+. I did not find damage being done to the rubber or plastic parts the steam contacted. I used it on the vinyl flooring which also did not melt, but it did blast filth from the crevices. I held the nozzle to the offending area for extended periods until the crud left. Around 30-45 seconds in one spot. On the engine area, there was a bunch of metal that took time to heat up to the point the goobers could slip off. I hit a few wire bits as well. Steam is less calorie heavy than the engine. clay On Oct 7, 2013, at 11:46 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: Any idea how hot the steam is? Is there any danger of causing damage to a vehicle? To wiring harness or plastic parts etc? Randy On 05/10/2013 7:26 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: From: m...@voyager.net Thanks. Didn't know they were made that small. I'll check Ebay and the 'net. Gerry A friend of mine has one of the bigger ones, uses it to sanitize foreclosed houses and strip wallpaper. Mitch. I used one of the big ones when I worked a research contract at a Vet Science Research Center. It was used to sterilize the area where they did autopsies on large animals. It did a great job cleaning auto engines but too much danger of getting burned when cleaning the underside with the car sitting on the ground. I looked all over the county for a place that would clean the engine and underside of the MBs to no avail. Some of the dealers do it but they only clean the cars they repair. IMO it does the best possible job on autos. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4142 / Virus Database: 3604/6730 - Release Date: 10/07/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Just ain't got time to fit a proper filter!
Why not one of those big middle-of-the-hood ram air scoops that you have to crane your neck to see over? That would look real sporty on your Mercedes. Gerry Might have to look at snagging one of the toyota super chargers. Or a window fan clay On Oct 7, 2013, at 7:44 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: Which is why my brother and I fall down laughing every time we see a 950 cfm carburetor on a Chevy 350. They usually throw a rod above 4500 rpm and can barely manage 450 cfm, if you have mechanical secondaries they won't run worth a hoot. Very few production V8s will spin as fast as a Benz M116 (6200 rev limit) or an M117 (5800 rpm rev limit). American iron is 4200 to 4500 and the DON'T like going faster -- not enough skirt on the piston, they won't live long. Newer DOHC with variable timing may get up that fast, but typically not, the valve train gets hard to manage and the inherent vibration does bad things to the crankshaft. In-line sixes go scary fast with a good valve train, so do V12s. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4142 / Virus Database: 3604/6730 - Release Date: 10/07/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Front mats for '83 240D
Couldn't find a website for true Mercedes mats. All sorts of websites claiming to be at all sorts of prices, but were probably copies. Gerry From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Does Mercedes still sell the really nice carpeted mats like they used to? They weren't that expensive considering the quality. On Oct 5, 2013, at 7:44 PM, Gerry Archer wrote: - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com i had original cocomats. they were fairly useless. the new ones are better? i'm just so not a trim guy mentally but, obviously, i'll look into whether anyone i deal with has anything to say about floor mats *Thanks, Gary. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4142 / Virus Database: 3604/6724 - Release Date: 10/04/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] question for scooter guy (or anyone else)
This is the one I'd buy were I younger. Claims to be able to keep up with freeway traffic; liquid cooled, fuel injected, 100 mpg. With training wheels I could probably ride one now. http://powersports.honda.com/2013/pcx.aspx Gerry From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com ok, but if you are going from place to place in a flat area? say like a 10 mile ride? you'd average what? at least 20, no? On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 11:20 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: 30-34mph if I'm in 100% sprint mode. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (171,xxx mi) On 10/5/2013 5:38 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: not really. zippy probably does about 20 to 25 on his bike which is probably about what this scooter might do with me on it ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Adventure of the day
It looks that way but it seems to be intended for inside the car instead of engines and chassis. Prices seem to start about $500 for the heavy duty models. Guess I'll just suffer along with the pressure washer in the midst of grease, dirt, parts cleaner, and water. Thanks, Gerry Griot's Garage has one that is really nice. Loaded out with all sorts of goodness clay On Oct 4, 2013, at 2:26 PM, m...@voyager.net wrote: Thanks. Didn't know they were made that small. I'll check Ebay and the 'net. Gerry A friend of mine has one of the bigger ones, uses it to sanitize foreclosed houses and strip wallpaper. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4142 / Virus Database: 3604/6724 - Release Date: 10/04/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Four-legged, DARPA-funded, running war robot unveiled (VIDEO)
Developers at Boston Dynamics, an engineering company specializing in robotics, have released video of an untethered robot capable of standing and mobilizing on its own. WildCat is a four-legged outdoor runner capable of rising, turning, and reaching running speeds up to 16 mph on flat ground. WildCat is a close cousin to Boston Dynamics' Cheetah, another quadrupedal robot that was unveiled a year ago, running at speeds over 28 mph on a treadmill - quicker than world's fastest man Usain Bolt's top speed of 27.78 mph. However, unlike WildCat, Cheetah was connected to a power source. The runner carries a large - and very loud - motor to operate its four limbs, though the weight hampers its speed and agility. Boston Dynamics has not detailed what is next for WildCat, but it is known to have been developed for military use, as the project is part of the Maximum Mobility and Manipulation Program funded by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, or DARPA. http://rt.com/usa/running-war-robot-darpa-754/ Gerry wrote: IMO this thing is seriously funny when it's galloping, running, etc. If they ever build one with a saddle, riding it around would be a blast. For military use, the army could revive the cavalry and even go back to King Arthurs era with jousting knights. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunday OT -- tunes for all you old prog-rock guys
From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Saw this reference (and check out the linked vid of the telescopes shooting lasers http://gizmodo.com/whoa-these-sci-fi-laser-shooting-telescopes-are-actual-1441525798 Enjoy y'all old dudes! --R Around the late '70s...early '80s I visited the McDonald Observatory in Southwest Texas. It was tourist off-season and I was the only visitor. An astronomer gave me a private tour, put the huge telescope through it's paces (the whole dome rotates very precisely), and explained their current major project which involved shooting a high powered laser through the telescope at the moon. The moon astronauts had left highly reflective multisided spheres on the moon (I was shown one and allowed to hold it); the telescopes laser beam was bounced off the spheres, and the returning beam was intercepted at precise locations within its range. The purpose was in getting very accurate measurements of distance between the observatory and the places of interception; something that was probably impossible to do any other way back then. Since it was noontime and the nearest restaurant was a long drive, he invited me to lunch. The only restaurant I've ever been in that was comparable was a UF cafeteria full of noisy students. Each place setting had pencils, pens, and a pad. Half of the 20-30 people there were either writing furiously on their pads or loudly arguing with each other. One sitting next to me suddenly turned, stuck out his hand, and said, I'm doctor ___ and you are? A tourist., I replied. Oh, said the prof and immediately went back to his writing. Gerry http://www.as.utexas.edu/astronomy/astronomy.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Front mats for '83 240D
Thanks, Chris! I should be able to find some here. Got a question about the Mercedes floor mats on Ebay. I've heard my wife (who passed away) call the inside and outside of the '83 240D biege color. The Ebay mats below are palomino. Looked palomino up on the 'net and it seems the color can vary between light brown and golden or darker. The color of the mats shown on Ebay look pretty close to the color of the 240D. In your opinion, and/or anyone elses, is the color shown what Mercedes generally refers to as palomino. My color sense is close to zero. Gerry ... From: Chris James c_ja...@gmx.com World Upholstery has custom mats in the original Feintuft material: http://www.worlduph.com/others/plush_floor_mat/ What appear to be quality custom Coco mats: http://www.cocomats.com/ And Look what an eBay search pulled up! Original Mercedes-Benz New Floor Mats W123, 300D, 300TD, 1981-1985 (Available Colors: palomino, blue, and black) http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Mercedes-Benz-New-Floor-Mats-W123-300D-300TD-1981-1985-/370706714825?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessorieshash=item564fd790c9vxp=mtr I can't vouch for any of these sellers/products, hope it helps anyway.. From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com Date: 10/5/2013 6:02 PM Who sells well fitting, long lasting front mats for '83 240D? Gary? Anyone? Thanks, Gerry -- Chris J. MBCA Peachtree section Past MB Models: '85 190D 2.2, '94 E420, '87 260E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4142 / Virus Database: 3604/6727 - Release Date: 10/06/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] scooters
So did I, so being a DIYer even at that young age, I bought a half completed angle iron/wheelbarrow wheel motor scooter without a motor that a local mechanic had built and then couldn't find a motor for it. I had a gasoline motor out of an old washing machine, so I mounted it, added pedals and levers, cranked it up with a pull rope, and headed for the shopping district in our small town. Got almost to the student hangout and the motor froze. In a few minutes it cooled enough to start and I roared up to the drug store since there was no muffler. Some fellow students were intrigued but most thought it was a riot. The clutch was engaged by sliding the motor via a pedal which tightened the drive belt. There were no brakes, but stopping the motor with a kill switch stopped it pretty fast anyway. Why that motor didn't eventually permanently freeze, I'll never know. It would go about two miles and freeze, cool down, go another two miles, freeze, and so on. An external pushrod operated the exhaust valve, but the intake valve was simply spring loaded. Soon as I got my license and my sister loaned me her car since she couldn't find tire during war time, I sold the scooter to a younger kid for $25; much to the displeasure of his mother. Driving the '35 Chevy on tires without treads is another story. Gerry Yep, and I wanted a Whizzer mighty bad. Wilt Gary Hurst wrote: i really did that old school indian scooter :) My dad had a Whizzer motor-bicycle back in the 1940s. Maybe you need the modern equivalent, a bicycle with electric assist. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4142 / Virus Database: 3604/6727 - Release Date: 10/06/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunday OT -- tunes for all you old prog-rock guys
Interesting! Arthur D. Little sounds like the kind of creative company that developed various item on contract back then. Gerry From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net That retro-reflector was developed by a company called Arthur D. Little, Inc. in Cambridge, MA where I got my first real job (and met my wife!). I had the pleasure and privilege to work with some of the engineers who developed it and saw it launched and placed on the Moon. Last I heard it was still there and working quite nicely some 40+ years on! It consisted of a bunch of right-angle corner reflectors about 1.5 diameter placed in a stand that could be set up and aimed at the Earth more or less. It did provide very accurate measurements, sub-centimeter I think, and was used to measure perturbations in the orbit, seismic activity, and various other things the scientists could divine. There were a few of the reflectors in a case in the lobby, and I think someone had one of the prototypes in their office. Wonder what happened to that stuff, the company went out of business a few years back, and a friend and colleague who attended our wedding was the last president of the company, sadly. At one time there was a laser/telescope on the roof, they would go out there and shoot at it just because... There was also a silk purse in the display that had been made from sow's ears. They also developed the major contribution to western civilization, Cap'n Crunch cereal, and a bunch of other really cool stuff. --R On 10/6/13 3:17 PM, Gerry Archer wrote: An astronomer gave me a private tour, put the huge telescope through it's paces (the whole dome rotates very precisely), and explained their current major project which involved shooting a high powered laser through the telescope at the moon. The moon astronauts had left highly reflective multisided spheres on the moon (I was shown one and allowed to hold it); the telescopes laser beam was bounced off the spheres, and the returning beam was intercepted at precise locations within its range. The purpose was in getting very accurate measurements of distance between the observatory and the places of interception; something that was probably impossible to do any other way back then. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4142 / Virus Database: 3604/6727 - Release Date: 10/06/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] UPDATE! Front mats for '83 240D
UPDATE: The Ebay mats look pretty close to the color of the seats/upholstery so I went ahead and ordered them. Price was $181.xx including shipping in case anyone else wants a set. Many thanks to Chris who provided a lot of information, and to others who offered info and suggestions. Gerry Neither of those numbers on the build plate, Chris. No numbers besides 123 beginning with 1. This was a custom ordered 240D picked up in Germany. Would that have anything to do with the absence of the numbers? I would call the exterior sheet metal color light brown (probably beige). The seat and upholstery is a slightly darker shade of light brown; possibly with a very slight reddish tinge. But to repeat: I'm very poor with colors. If I can get my old Nikon working, I'll send pictures to the list. Gerry From: Chris James c_ja...@gmx.com Both beige palomino (MB-Tex/Leather/Velour) upholstery was available on the later W123's. Highly unlikely that you have leather or velour, so look for code 154 (palomino Tex) or 155 (beige Tex) on the radiator cross member build plate. Mercedes Benz 1983 MB-Tex, Leather Velour Upholsteries Upholstery Brochure http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-1983-MB-Tex-Leather-Velour-Upholsteries-Upholstery-Brochure-/380727355225 From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com Date: 10/6/2013 3:51 PM Thanks, Chris! I should be able to find some here. Got a question about the Mercedes floor mats on Ebay. I've heard my wife (who passed away) call the inside and outside of the '83 240D biege color. The Ebay mats below are palomino. Looked palomino up on the 'net and it seems the color can vary between light brown and golden or darker. The color of the mats shown on Ebay look pretty close to the color of the 240D. In your opinion, and/or anyone elses, is the color shown what Mercedes generally refers to as palomino. My color sense is close to zero. Gerry -- Chris J. MBCA Peachtree section Past MB Models: '85 190D 2.2, '94 E420, '87 260E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4142 / Virus Database: 3604/6727 - Release Date: 10/06/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Adventure of the day
Good ideas! Might just build me one. Gerry On Behalf Of WILTON How 'bout a pressure cooker? Wilton From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Those things are basically a tank you can fill with water and a propane burner to heat it -- a turkey fryer burner base, maybe using an old propane tank as the water tank (with a filler bung and a fitting for a heater hose 10 or 12ft long, and a nozzle on the end to spew the steam. Probably want to put a water heater-type pop off valve on there too, maybe at the base fitting of the hose. It could be the $2 steamer (well, maybe more like $20, but still...). I recall renting one of the wallpaper steamers once, the house got hot from the burner and the steam, maybe they have electric ones now. --R On 10/4/13 5:26 PM, m...@voyager.net wrote: Thanks. Didn't know they were made that small. I'll check Ebay and the 'net. Gerry A friend of mine has one of the bigger ones, uses it to sanitize foreclosed houses and strip wallpaper. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4142 / Virus Database: 3604/6724 - Release Date: 10/04/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Adventure of the day
From: m...@voyager.net Thanks. Didn't know they were made that small. I'll check Ebay and the 'net. Gerry A friend of mine has one of the bigger ones, uses it to sanitize foreclosed houses and strip wallpaper. Mitch. I used one of the big ones when I worked a research contract at a Vet Science Research Center. It was used to sterilize the area where they did autopsies on large animals. It did a great job cleaning auto engines but too much danger of getting burned when cleaning the underside with the car sitting on the ground. I looked all over the county for a place that would clean the engine and underside of the MBs to no avail. Some of the dealers do it but they only clean the cars they repair. IMO it does the best possible job on autos. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] slow day
Many years ago mutual insurance companies, which are owned by the insured, were formed in order to avoid gouging by stock insurance companies. Since some of the premiums being quoted currently by health insurance companies are obvious gouging, mutual health insurance companies may be a well established model that would bring premiums down. This is currently being discussed on the internet but there probably won't be much accurate information until more info comes out about Obamacare. Gerry WILTON wrote: Therefore, I've learned to take a lot of the stuff I read, see and hear in the news with a bag of salt, as Greg already said, and as I've been telling my friends at lunch for years. Which still leaves us without any ability to come close to the truth on matters of DC - not unlike (they say) elephant procreation - waaay far up and complex. Another approach is to hide head in sand - which is equally as effective. When they want to tell me something, they can get my attention by driving their black suburbans here to yank my head out from the sand. I can do everything the gov't sez they can do without the gov't. Why is it that ALL comments bemoan the gov't closure? Why is it such a bad thing that gov't is partially shut-down? What is it that we are not receiving or doing because of shut-down? Everything seems to be running fine, no? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4142 / Virus Database: 3604/6724 - Release Date: 10/04/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Front mats for '83 240D
Who sells well fitting, long lasting front mats for '83 140D? Gary? Anyone? Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Front mats for '83 240D
- Original Message - From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2013 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Front mats for '83 240D Gerry wrote: ...'83 140D?... We have an '83 240D. Otherwise, try the manufacturer. ?140D? - I like it. mao It's only a 140D when I hit the wrong key. A 140D would be slow but might get fantastic MPG. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Front mats for '83 240D
- Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com i had original cocomats. they were fairly useless. the new ones are better? i'm just so not a trim guy mentally but, obviously, i'll look into whether anyone i deal with has anything to say about floor mats *Thanks, Gary. Gerry On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 7:11 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Buy cocomats. *That may be what's in there now on the passengers side, Dimitri; coarse brown material. Drivers side probably wore out and was discarded. Gerry On Oct 5, 2013, at 6:02 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Who sells well fitting, long lasting front mats for '83 240D? Gary? Anyone? Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4142 / Virus Database: 3604/6724 - Release Date: 10/04/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Adventure of the day
Where did you get the steamer, Clay? My pressure washer is a PIA with all the water flying around, and it doesn't do a very good job anyway. Thanks, Gerry From: clay redgh...@comcast.net #1 boy finally decided that he would show some interest in his car. We had been working on making the car functional enough to pass state inspection so it could be registered. Got that out of the way and he slacked off. With the W140 on the road, he wants to put some shine to it. Anyway, he drags me out to see what is making the grease spots on the street where he parks. From the top it looks like nothing, but I get him to put it on ramps and take off the covers. It is a pit under there and the belly pans are loaded with asphalt and crud. Gave the pans a good scrubbing and they are ten pound lighter. We scraped the crap off the underside of the engine. Soaked it with citrus degreaser. No matter how much we dosed it, the stuff kept flowing off black and thick. Wire brush to the cruddy parts with thick coating and found aged cosmoline or some yellowed coating. Brake cleaner cut the mounds of gunk on top of the sub frames. Boy got it off ramps and drove it in the rain. When he got back there was lots of oily drips all over the place. Looks like there is a good leak going on. Door locks and other vac stuff is not working. I got tired of dealing with the kid whining about oil and gunk getting in his hair, so I told him to work on the vac lines. I have no idea if the pump actually works, but he got happy playing with my vac tester and making the door locks work. We will have to figure out the rest of that mystery when he has another day off. I spent the afternoon with the steam machine blasting away at the built up snot on the oil pan and the rest of the stuff under there. It was flowing and plopping all over, and the crust was disappearing to the point that what was once black was beginning to look about 150k miles newer. I finally got it clean enough that any new black drips will be very obvious and I will be able to see any real leaks. And the underside is all shiny and pretty. Even found that the suspension may have been replaced within the last 12k miles. All the bolts, once cleaned, were looking like new. I can see that this 300SE could be a sweet ride for show and shine. Now I am going to have to spend a number of hours with the steamer getting Frosch ready clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4142 / Virus Database: 3604/6718 - Release Date: 10/02/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
