from:"Redghost"

I am trying to figure out if the rims look like death from living in the trunk 
while the car rotted away around them, or if the departed rubber on them is 
because the tire failed and was forced to languish in the trunk while the spare 
was put to road use. 

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[MBZ] PnP disappointments

I saw that there were a pair of 450/ m117 cars new to the yard. There must be 
some really cool parts, huh? 

Turns out that neither car was in any condition to bother with. Maybe they were 
owned by the same fool. The SLC what just rotted out. Mostly rust and junk that 
had been stripped prior to making it to the yard. The w116 was a '78, so 
nothing worth gathering from under the hood. The floors were rotted out. Both 
had nonviable spares, but bundts. I decided not to waste cash trying to bring 
the wheels home. 

I did score the all metal C107 wipers. The idiot had painted them white all 
over. Strip the paint, and I have something really rare. Maybe it would pay for 
the yard trip. 

There was a 420SEL that donated its headlight doors, corner lights, and 
cluster. If the speedo works, I will be able to swap it into Polei while her 
speedo is rebuilt. 

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Re: [MBZ] pix of my cars

I doubt the V8 diesel in that w220 would fit very well in a w140. There is no 
way it would fit a 201. Not even a 202. If you gutted a w124, it might squeeze 
in. 

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[MBZ] pix of my cars

To bypass the need for moderation and approval, I just put the stuff on BW. 

Show and shine had a visitor from the great white north who brought a w220 400 
diesel. Almost got a stirring in the loin, but being a w220 was enough cold 
water to temper the desire. 

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w126-s-se-sec-sel-sd/2695441-polei-sdl-14.html 

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w126-s-se-sec-sel-sd/2800562-hey-allen-allen-allen-3.html
 
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[MBZ] Rolling, Rolling, Rolling.....

2017-08-14 Thread redghost--- via Mercedes

The OM617 had been sitting on the hoist, blocking my garage door for the past 
week. I had tried to use a garbage harbour fright dolly, but it just shattered 
when the engine was lowered on to it. 

I made my own out of a few scrap 2x14 and some 2x6. HF got the trashed dolly 
and I got some spare cash out of it. I purchased their 5.25" casters for my 
wheels. Once all bolted up, I rolled the thing under the now raised motor and 
learned it would slide just over the legs! Dropped it down and pulled the dolly 
away. That was totally cool. I pulled the SL out of the garage and grunted 
enough to get the dolly, with motor, tucked against the wall with enough room 
to pull a car in alongside. 

I am happy. 

The local show and shine was yesterday. I took Polei, but garnered no awards. 
The fellow I sold a Hirschmann to a few weeks back did win the B class 
(1980-1999) second place. I got him to sign up when I helped him install the 
antenna, which gave him two weeks to make his 560SEL into a very lovely example 
of the Marque. 

Photos of Polei will be posted to BW. 

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[MBZ] SDL adventures

2017-08-09 Thread redghost--- via Mercedes

I have been making Polei pretty for her debut at the Show and Shine this 
weekend. Instead of Griots products I used Maguires for compounding and wax. It 
looks ok. 

I had done the door cards in green to make it more Germanic. There was a white 
seat I scored from PnP months ago that just sat in the parts room awaiting my 
idiocy. The front seats that came with Polei had massive tears at the crease in 
the lower leather fronts. They work just fine, but  I am too poor to 
re-skin. Replacement only has damage to side bolster, same as original. I would 
need to paint both, so I decided to just paint the replacement and see how I 
liked it. 

I pulled the rear bench after I had a few good coats on the driver seat. I have 
some dish soap diluted and the grey 3M pad to make them really clean. With the 
nice warm weather, I got good coats and allowed them to bake a few days. That 
seems to have taken care of the tacky nature. Maybe the smoke in the air and 
dust helped. 

This morning I pulled the driver seat out and did the swap. The seat looks 
really good. Only issue is that the headrest does not work. There are also a 
pair of two prong hook ups that do not have anything to hook too. These must do 
a great deal of magic. The back seats look pretty good as well. 

With the rear seat out I pulled a fresh antenna cable to the center console. 
There is a lovely Becker in the dash, but with the damage to the rear fender, I 
have not put a Hirschmann out back. I needed to remove the thresholds to access 
under the carpet. They were pretty filthy, so I cleaned them up and gave them a 
coat of green as well. They will live outside for a few days until the show. 

I did get the siren working. 

The hole in the receiver/drier got bits ordered, which showed up over the past 
week. I just got the unit today. The pressure sensor and temp sensors came 
earlier. I have no idea why all three boxes had to be HUGE and mostly packed 
with air and this giant stuffing snake. I got two boxes the size of a pair of 
match boxes in these 18x18x12 cardboard monsters. Same as the drier. At least I 
will have something to put the 525 viscosity oil in. One day. 

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[MBZ] Scavenged the W126 doors

2017-08-06 Thread redghost--- via Mercedes

With the motor and trans I picked up the other day, I got a set of doors he had 
as spares for a car no longer there. 

I have been pulling the seats out of Polei and making them police car green, 
then letting them bake in the sun. Between paint and cleaning sessions, I tore 
down the doors for what might be useful. It was good to learn what all went 
into putting them together. I think I can find uses for the four latches and 
door handles. It was a split at finding working window motors. At least I got a 
working passenger side door window to replace the nonfunctioning window in 
Allen. Now I can put the door carcasses on CL for some scrap guy to take away. 

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Re: [MBZ] Wiped up the OM617

2017-08-06 Thread redghost--- via Mercedes

I like all the ideas. I would sort of keep the engine on the hoist, but I am 
limited in space available, so putting it on a smaller dolly would allow me to 
store it in the garage. The hoist would then be able to be torn down for 
storage. I borrowed the load leveler, and have to return it. My garage is 
single car with maybe three feet to spare on the side. Just enough to stick the 
motor and allow a car to park. 

I needed an enclosed hauler, as I was also using the truck to move some 
furniture for my mother. The small moving truck would have been fine, with its 
lower deck and ramp, but all the guys had on short notice were the cargo vans. 
My drive is single width and steepish. I have chinese boys living across the 
street who have an excess of cars (pot, kettle, black) who park right across 
from my drive. If the dolly had been beefy enough, I could have rolled it down 
the ramp to the garage. 

clay 

- Original Message -

From: "G Mann via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 

Next time, buy some 4x4 lumber and cut pieces that will go across the 
engine lift. 
Rotate the engine / trans so you can let the lift down and rest the 
engine/trans on the legs of the lift while just enough "tension" on the 
lifting chain [or nylon rope, if you use that instead] to keep the engine 
upright and centered on the 4x4 cross pieces. 

If you need more stability for this "load" tie some rope to the top of the 
engine [what ever you can find that is solid, and to the legs of the hoist 
using truckers knots to pull it up tight. 

The whole load will then travel where ever you want to take it using the 
engine hoist as the "engine dolly".. 

Tip... sweep the drive to remove any rocks or chips that will cause the 
wheels to stop rolling... before you start to move the load. 

If you need to do it "alone" use something to chock the wheels on the 
engine hoist while you reset the come along for each "pull". 

I have done this more times than I can count.. suggest, next time.. rent a 
pickup truck, and back it up to the garage to unload as close as possible. 

This is why I now own a 12,000 lb fork lift.. ;)) BTDT 

On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 10:19 PM, redghost--- via Mercedes < 
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: 

> Yesterday I picked up a Uhaul van and picked up the rest of the past that 
> came with Allen. Getting the spare engine/trans into the van was a huge 
> PITA due to them not being separated. The very warm weather did not make it 
> any better, and trying to drive an unknown vehicle loaded up with near max 
> weight was entertaining. 
> 
> I was able to lasso a neighbor into assisting in getting the package out 
> of the van and drug across the road and up the driveway. I had to purchase 
> the cheapo harbour fright one ton hoist and a pair of el cheapo appliance 
> moving critter things. I chose the super deluxe steel enforced over the 
> wood. 
> 
> Getting the motor into the van was a chore, as the arm was higher than the 
> door opening. We had to mess about lowering and shifting the thing to get 
> it in, then unhook and hook back with the arm inside. Coming out was less 
> extreme. The motor had tipped over and getting upright was interesting. I 
> was able to get the arm just under the door and tipped the engine over so 
> it would sort of spill out. 
> 
> I then had to make a magic rope hooked to my deck which overhangs the 
> garage door. Two of the cheep chinee ratchet straps and a come along did 
> the trick. Sadly the come along was only 36" worth of cable, so much 
> adjustments were made to get the thing across the street and up the drive 
> to flat ground. All the while the motor is swinging and swaying on the 
> hoist as it gets hung up on every dang pebble and bump. 
> 
> Once on flat land, I slid this 1000# moving dolly under the motor and 
> lower it. First drop was not good, so pump it up and try again. Second drop 
> looked great. Lowered it just right so that the oil pan and the trans pan 
> are both on the dolly. Drop the arm a bit more so the motor settles, and 
> the crap dolly explodes. Cheeppy recycled plastic shatters and the "steel" 
> box support twists and contorts. Wasted $20 on these things. At least I can 
> salvage the casters. 
> 
> At this point we give up and just let it hang on the hoist. Job is "done" 
> so time for beers to cool off. When the sun went lower and temps dropped I 
> grabbed a bottle of Dollar Store LA Amazzzing cleaner and begin scrubbing 
> the accumulated filth off the engine. It took the whole bottle, but on the 
> whole, it looks quite nice. Missing injectors, some throttle rods, hoses 
> and small things. Probably good enough for the guy who wants to toss it 
> into his mudder truck. I had been thinking maybe and SLC. 
>

[MBZ] What Idiot...

2017-08-05 Thread redghost--- via Mercedes

... decided that the w201 need to have the high side port hidden under all 
manner of inaccessible hoses and hot things? 

Neighbor has recently been having me look at his benz cars. I was able to help 
with the W210 issues that were rather simple. He has a '90 201 that has not had 
AC for a while and the radio (Becker ) is not making nice sounds out of the 
speakers. Radio works fine from what I was able to see. It finds stations, 
switches to WB and plays tapes. Just has crap for sound. Fader was replaced, as 
was the radio at one time. Never played well since. I removed the fader and 
gave it some needed contact cleaner. That did not make it notably better 
sounding. It was too hot to remove the speakers, but that would have required 
pulling the cluster. 

As for the AC, I was trying to at least pull a vacuum and see if it would hold. 
My paws are just too huge to get access to the high side port under all the 
hoses and hot engine. There was no way to screw on the manifold hose. I had low 
side, but an hour of poking around just could not line up the hose. Are the 
cars just meant to have a single charge? I could have tried a vacuum on the low 
side, and then just charge without knowing if the high would hold. 

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[MBZ] Wiped up the OM617

2017-08-05 Thread redghost--- via Mercedes

Yesterday I picked up a Uhaul van and picked up the rest of the past that came 
with Allen. Getting the spare engine/trans into the van was a huge PITA due to 
them not being separated. The very warm weather did not make it any better, and 
trying to drive an unknown vehicle loaded up with near max weight was 
entertaining. 

I was able to lasso a neighbor into assisting in getting the package out of the 
van and drug across the road and up the driveway. I had to purchase the cheapo 
harbour fright one ton hoist and a pair of el cheapo appliance moving critter 
things. I chose the super deluxe steel enforced over the wood. 

Getting the motor into the van was a chore, as the arm was higher than the door 
opening. We had to mess about lowering and shifting the thing to get it in, 
then unhook and hook back with the arm inside. Coming out was less extreme. The 
motor had tipped over and getting upright was interesting. I was able to get 
the arm just under the door and tipped the engine over so it would sort of 
spill out. 

I then had to make a magic rope hooked to my deck which overhangs the garage 
door. Two of the cheep chinee ratchet straps and a come along did the trick. 
Sadly the come along was only 36" worth of cable, so much adjustments were made 
to get the thing across the street and up the drive to flat ground. All the 
while the motor is swinging and swaying on the hoist as it gets hung up on 
every dang pebble and bump. 

Once on flat land, I slid this 1000# moving dolly under the motor and lower it. 
First drop was not good, so pump it up and try again. Second drop looked great. 
Lowered it just right so that the oil pan and the trans pan are both on the 
dolly. Drop the arm a bit more so the motor settles, and the crap dolly 
explodes. Cheeppy recycled plastic shatters and the "steel" box support twists 
and contorts. Wasted $20 on these things. At least I can salvage the casters. 

At this point we give up and just let it hang on the hoist. Job is "done" so 
time for beers to cool off. When the sun went lower and temps dropped I grabbed 
a bottle of Dollar Store LA Amazzzing cleaner and begin scrubbing the 
accumulated filth off the engine. It took the whole bottle, but on the whole, 
it looks quite nice. Missing injectors, some throttle rods, hoses and small 
things. Probably good enough for the guy who wants to toss it into his mudder 
truck. I had been thinking maybe and SLC. 

clay 
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[MBZ] WOGER!!!

2017-08-04 Thread redghost--- via Mercedes

I was scanning tubeyou for some videos of the local club show and shine for a 
new member and came across the last time I saw Woger and his C300. The list is 
just not the same with him gone. Not as desolate as when Dr. Booth passed. 

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Re: [MBZ] OT - LA in the '70's

2017-08-04 Thread redghost--- via Mercedes

I will give them the blame for the haze, but the traffic is something that has 
just become worse with each passing day since 1980. I blame the Kalifornikators 
for this. 


clay 

- Original Message -

From: "Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes"  
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"  
Cc: "Greg Fiorentino"  
Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 10:32:12 PM 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - LA in the '70's 

I understand that we can thank our Canadian neighbors for the haze. Apparently 
BC wildfires are going strong recently, with their smoke drifting down to us. 

Greg 

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[MBZ] OT - LA in the '70's

2017-08-03 Thread redghost--- via Mercedes

For some reason the normal heatwave of June is manifesting in August this year. 
Not that August was not also capable of some scorching days. 

I had to hit the Harbour Fright to score an engine lift and some moving tools 
today. My mother requires a few items I have, be returned to her. I will also 
need to haul my compressor and power washer back home. There is also a much 
needed run to the dump from both homes, and topping it off, is the pick up of a 
722.3xx transmission and an OM617 engine. The four doors and some seating for 
W126 are also on the bill. Anybody need a rear window for a 126? I do not, but 
the haul includes that. I have stacks of glass that will be headed to the 
transfer station. 

SO, I was driving on the incredibly packed freeway, having secured my loot at 
HF and felt I had been transported to LA county over forty years ago. Nobody 
was moving beyond a crawl, the sky was that funky orange tone, haze obscuring 
the tall buildings not a mile away, and that unbearable valley heat. Not a hot, 
just a brownish enveloping sticky, why is there not an ocean breeze? sort of 
too dang warm. 

Maybe this is the future for PNW. Not that SF heat, but the Anaheim in the 
summer, overly paved and radiant heat. 

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[MBZ] Happy Moose Day

2017-08-03 Thread redghost--- via Mercedes

Dog owner intervenes in moose trampling 
http://www.ktuu.com/content/news/Dog-owner-intervenes-in-moose-trampling--416895323.html
 

I once saw a moose eat a pumpkin 

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[MBZ] Klima relay for SDL

2017-08-02 Thread redghost--- via Mercedes

I am pretty sure I have not had access to outgoing mail since this took place. 

The SDL got some AC attention to the point that it got a minor fill of fake 
R12, but the compressor clutch would not kick in, so no more filling. The 
system held vacuum for two weeks. I jumped the pins on the Klima, and the 
clutch did kick in. So, I went on and filled it with more fake R12. Until the 
receiver drier began spewing goo from a hole in its side. 

I assume that the Klima relay is the same for all the inline six engines. Can 
the relay I have be made good? Maybe reflow something? This may be a task for 
next spring, as I do not expect to be driving Polei in the deathly heat. 

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[MBZ] OT - ConCast mail server sux

2017-08-02 Thread redghost--- via Mercedes

The evil idiots at ConCast have eaten my authority to send out mail. I have to 
now use their lame mail thing instead of being able to use the apple mail. One 
day this may resolve. 

Just letting you all know I have not died. yet 

Cars are good. Helping some owners with their benz cars to make the cars better 
suited to their needs. 

Found that whoever designed the engine bay for the W201 needs to be beaten with 
a length of cow tripe until they bleed at least a gallon of blood. Did you know 
the high side connector is buried where no human hand can fit? This is evil. 

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Re: [MBZ] SECRET MESSAGE TO ANDREW

2016-02-05 Thread redghost--- via Mercedes

Knock hard, the doorbell does not ring 

otherwise, leave the package in the milk box 

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From: "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes"  
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Cc: "Andrew Strasfogel"  
Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 12:57:40 PM 
Subject: [MBZ] SECRET MESSAGE TO ANDREW 

Take out the "trash" when you get home. 
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Re: [MBZ] Hillarycare. was: Barum Tires

2016-02-04 Thread redghost--- via Mercedes

The cost sounds pretty high. How old are the applicants? Kids tend to cost a 
bunch to service. Same as old folks. I pay $1800 per annum for 24/7 365 
service. 

Docs have a select number of clients so they can provide adequate care. The 
healthy do cover the sicker clients. But the fee also covers all in house 
testing in my case. My group has radiology, lab, cardiac, and all procedures 
are on the house. No nickel and dime crap with billing, its covered. I need a 
bone set and cast, on the house. I think they just purchased a MRI. 

My doc used to be standard practice, then moved in house because he could not 
afford the overhead of inso and paperwork employees. Now he can afford to 
continue being a doctor and provides great service. 

clay 

- Original Message -

From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes"  
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Cc: "Dan Penoff"  
Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 6:49:39 AM 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hillarycare. was: Barum Tires 

Wow. Looks sort of shady in a way. 

>From what I could glean, you're expected or commit to pay a monthly amount 
>into a bank account you give power of attorney to the group to. They can then 
>take the funds you deposit and use them to pay other member's medical bills. 

You are a recipient of said payments for your medical bills as well. 

If I'm relatively healthy, I get screwed because I'm covering all the sick 
people's bills. A family of three or more is expected to pay in nearly 
$900/month. Ouch. 

Dan 

Sent from my iPad 

On Feb 4, 2016, at 9:25 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes  
wrote: 

>> We are looking seriously at a "concierge" physician practice. 
>> 
>> The wife has multiple medical issues, none life threatening, thank goodness, 
>> but a number that are chronic and require her to see a doctor or doctors 
>> monthly if not more often. 
>> 
>> After looking at what we pay out in deductibles, it's approaching the annual 
>> fee of a concierge physician's service. In this case we would essentially 
>> pay out the lump sum annually and she could see them as many times as she 
>> needed, and also (hopefully) get a higher level or quality of care due to 
>> the doctor not having to run a conveyor belt practice to stay solvent. 
>> 
>> We'll see. We're still researching this. 
>> 
>> Dan 
>> 
>> Sent from my MBPad 
> 
> 
> There is also medishare. It seems like a good concept, but the materials are 
> confusing about costs and payments into the system. 
> 
> mychristiancare.org/medi-share/ 
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Re: [MBZ] Hillarycare. was: Barum Tires

2016-02-04 Thread redghost--- via Mercedes

+1 

Go for it. I have been using this service for a decade and it rocks. 

My group uses age based fee structure because old folks have more issues. You 
still need normal coverage to deal with outside providers and hospital work. 

The positive is that you get service really fast and there is no rush to 
process you out of the room. My doc takes lots of time to talk things over, 
discuss options fully, and knows my issues fully. Not getting passed around to 
the bullpen. I call and get seen in 24 hours. He has full records of his work, 
instead of having to interpret what some other medico performed. 

clay 

- Original Message -

From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes"  
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Cc: "Dan Penoff"  
Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 4:56:25 AM 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hillarycare. was: Barum Tires 

We are looking seriously at a "concierge" physician practice. 

The wife has multiple medical issues, none life threatening, thank goodness, 
but a number that are chronic and require her to see a doctor or doctors 
monthly if not more often. 

After looking at what we pay out in deductibles, it's approaching the annual 
fee of a concierge physician's service. In this case we would essentially pay 
out the lump sum annually and she could see them as many times as she needed, 
and also (hopefully) get a higher level or quality of care due to the doctor 
not having to run a conveyor belt practice to stay solvent. 

We'll see. We're still researching this. 

Dan 

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On Feb 3, 2016, at 9:27 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes  
wrote: 

>> Gerry sez: If Obamacare becomes Hillarycare, we're in trouble. 
>> ~~~ 
>> Meade Dillon wrote: 
>> .. Reminds me of the joke medical terminology list that went around in 
>> the 90's when Hillary! was trying to "fix" healthcare in secret: Definition 
>> of 
>>> Rectum: Darn near killed'em! 
>>> Max 
>> > Charleston SC 
>> > 
> 
> Uh, If obunglercare sticks around, we are in trouble. 
> 
> Fortunately, some docs are setting up private practice, no Ins. For those who 
> can afford it, this is the way to go. 
> 
> Anyone who would sign up for a larger and more corrupt form of VA healthcare 
> is insane. 
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Re: [MBZ] Advantages of a large shop

2016-02-02 Thread redghost--- via Mercedes

now you need to hire some mexicans to do the work while you gather more german 
iron to fill the place 

clay 

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Sent: Monday, February 1, 2016 3:29:01 PM 
Subject: [MBZ] Advantages of a large shop 

I currently have 6 cars in the shop. I still have enough room to pull the 
entire truck/trailer package inside the shop with the car still loaded to work 
on that trailer hub. I still have plenty of room to get another car in the 
other door with plenty of room to work on it. 

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Re: [MBZ] Diagnostics

2016-02-02 Thread redghost--- via Mercedes

Computers can not cover for incipient stupidity. Dealer idiots were not able to 
get over their own stupidity to see the issue with the aromatic. They got hung 
up on the computer telling them things that led to waste of time and cash to 
remedy. Installed a fresh pump, pair of sensors, and it boiled down to failure 
to properly seat the sensor. Basic wrenching oversight, but blinded by the 
screens. Controlled flight into terrain. 

clay 

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diagnostics 

People are scared of the computers but I don't know why. The computer helps you 
troubleshoot exactly the problem rather than just shotgunning parts. 
Which reminds me, the '05 Golf turbo seems to spool up late, I was hoping an 
Italian tune up would help but I've been driving the snot out of it and other 
than the fuel economy seems to be rising I don't see much difference. I need to 
put my laptop on it and watch the pressures and see whats going on. Its cool 
that you can watch it real time and very nice with the VW that all you need is 
the $250 cable and a Windows PC. Interestingly I'm running Windows in Virtual 
Box on a Mac and it works just fine... 

-Curt 


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Sent: Monday, February 1, 2016 6:06 PM 
Subject: [MBZ] Diagnostics 

A good example of how you don’t always need a fancy DAS system to work on later 
cars: 

S430 cranks but won’t start after a stop on the way home from work. Sat and let 
it cool off for maybe 15-20 minutes. Cranks right up. 

Crankshaft position sensor, I’m betting. Classic symptoms. 

Drive the car home, put it on the DAS. Fault code for the engine ECU - 
“Crankshaft position sensor”. 

Amazon has Bosch available for under $40 to my doorstep tomorrow. 

Nice. 

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

2016-01-29 Thread redghost--- via Mercedes

one of the velocity channel shows had a DMC get fixed. They had a devil of a 
time getting the thing to hit 88mph on a round track 

clay 

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition 

IIRC the "body" was fiberglass with stainless panels over it... 
I also seem to remember the engine was a GM v6 which considering the era meant 
something not terribly powerful. 
-Curt 


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My assessment exactly, with a few add ons. 

Gull wing doors with non functioning side windows from a practical standpoint. 
Stainless body not repairable by an ordinary body shop, except by 
replacement. [very high cost due to limited production] 
Nothing outstanding in either power or preformance. 
Not really an attractive car that says "drive me, I'm Aston Martin fast". 
Virtually impossible to access engine for routine maintenance. 
High cost [for it's era]. 
You have to take off your disco boots to drive it... [snarky comment]. 

I wish the "new production" every success, however, I won't be 
spending $40+K for a refurbished one.. or $100+K for a new one... 
ever.. 

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> Friend bought one not long after they came out, and I drove it. It wasn't 
> impressive. It had a stock American drive train and the handling was nothing 
> special. He kept it for years and finally sold it. IIRC the body was 
> unpainted stainless steel. Where do you find a bodyman who can do an 
> invisible fix on a dent in unpainted stainless steel? 
> Gerry 
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>> Anyone here ever driven one for an extended time? Really not that 
>> impressive. 
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Re: [MBZ] Jack

2016-01-29 Thread redghost--- via Mercedes

I am doing most of the honey do things. Oil change, minor repairs, male 
parenting, meals, electronic set up for all the stuff locals are too busy to 
take care of. I do get to dodge drunk natives wandering down the middle of 
streets 

clay 

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Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 12:39:37 PM 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jack 

Buy some Inuit carvings too. I bought a cute little soapstone bear for 
around $50 IIRC. 

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> ANC is a depressing place, I think. I liked Fairbanks better. 
> 
> Be sure to visit the Great Alaskan Bush Company while you're there! 
> 
> Dan 
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> > 
> > Baby boy needed watching over and transport to swim meets while SWMBA 
> was away on business. 
> > 
> > This place sucks for weather, driving, lack of light and a dearth of 
> tri-star cars 
> > 
> > clay 
> > 
> > - Original Message - 
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> > From: "Curly McLain via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
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> > Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 4:27:36 PM 
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jack 
> > 
> >> I have a jack and may have the lug, but that is long distance 
> >> shipping from SEA. 
> >> 
> >> I am stuck in ANC at the moment 
> >> 
> >> clay 
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Re: [MBZ] Jack

2016-01-29 Thread redghost--- via Mercedes

Baby boy needed watching over and transport to swim meets while SWMBA was away 
on business. 

This place sucks for weather, driving, lack of light and a dearth of tri-star 
cars 

clay 

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jack 

>I have a jack and may have the lug, but that is long distance 
>shipping from SEA. 
> 
>I am stuck in ANC at the moment 
> 
>clay 

Wow! the red ghost has been sighted again! Long time no see! 



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Re: [MBZ] Jack

2016-01-28 Thread redghost--- via Mercedes

I have a jack and may have the lug, but that is long distance shipping from 
SEA. 

I am stuck in ANC at the moment 

clay 

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Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 6:22:36 AM 
Subject: [MBZ] Jack 

Just discovered the 94 S420 has no jack or lug wrench in the spare tire well. 

Anyone got a spare jack and wrench they might be willing to part with? 

I'm checking with the seller, as I suspect they might be laying around in a 
corner at his place, but if not, I need to find one so the car has them. Darned 
if that's not something I left in the S500 when I parted it out, dang it! 

Thanks, 

Dan 

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Re: [MBZ] Need MacBook

2016-01-28 Thread redghost--- via Mercedes

I snagged a few models from them. OWC does a very good job of identifying 
condition honestly. Pricing is higher than I would want to pay, but I never had 
issue with their laptops. 

clay 

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Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 5:19:16 AM 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Need MacBook 

Nowhere that know of. You're not going to find a 27" iMac for that kind of 
money unless it's a C2D model, which I would not recommend. 

There are some reputable resellers like OWC (mac sales.com) and PowerMax who 
sell their own refurbs, but I can't vouch for them other than to say that I 
have been a 20+ year customer of OWC and everything I have bought from them has 
been great - but I have never bought a complete computer from them. 

I would stick with an iMac with an Intel "I" series processor, as the days of 
support for the C2D processors as far as operating systems is coming to an end. 

Dan 

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> Hey Dan or anyone else into Macs: 
> 
> For around $800, what's the best place to pick up a refurb or used 27" IMac 
> with wireless keyboard and mouse that has the most bells and whistles? I was 
> looking at this one on ebay but my son says it's too old and overpriced: 
> 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/111886828932?euid=eb15ad4b32ca434aaca810fd794f849c=1
>  
> 
> It has Adobe, Safari, wireless printer capability, and the Microsoft bundle 
> of word, excel, power point. 
> 
> For that much $ he says I could get a current model from the IBM apple refurb 
> store. I am skeptical... 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote: 
>> Gerry, 
>> 
>> Apple refurbs come equipped no differently than a brand new device. The only 
>> difference might be the lack of retail packaging, otherwise, you can’t tell 
>> the difference between new and refurb. 
>> 
>> In over 20+ years of Apple ownership, I have never bought one of their 
>> computers new. Always refurbs. If it’s a laptop I us the extra $$$ to buy 
>> AppleCare for it off of a retailer’s site, like eBay, where it’s cheaper. 
>> 
>> MacDan 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> > On Jan 27, 2016, at 4:56 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote: 
>> > 
>> > Does anyone on the list have a MacBook in good working order they would 
>> > like to sell? 
>> > 
>> > Also, do all Apple refurbished MacBooks come with operating systems. 
>> > Apples website didn't say that they did. 
>> > 
>> > Thanks, 
>> > Gerry 
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[MBZ] Jury jerk off

2014-03-19 Thread Redghost

I am pulling jury duty this week.  Quite the travesty

Drug my behind down to the courthouse bright and early.  They kept me out in 
the rain instead of opening up for the prompt crowd.  So, I got to see all the 
peons of justice arrive for work.  Security for them was negligible.  Many 
bypassed it altogether.  Mostly they employ one WASP to eight persons of color.

Once I got to the jury area, the trend changed.  Lily white and middle aged or 
AARP.  WE sat around for an hour until they figured out too many folks showed 
up, and made a random cull of the herd.  It was more an ethnic cleansing.  
The few non- whites we're dismissed.  Justice is not color blind

Clay

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Re: [MBZ] Cruising the hood in Londonstan

2011-09-03 Thread Redghost

I vote it be israel.  They could use some thugs there 

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 England simply needs to find a new penal colony to send these unpleasant 
 thugs away! Load up the prison ship and send them off, that solution worked 
 well for centuries
 
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 G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm lead to understand that packing heat in the Queens dominion is very much
 against the law and will cause you all manner of trouble. Isn't this why
 the good citizens were forced to defend themselves with bats and brooms in
 the recent troubles in London?
 I think such foolishness is why we had that little dustup back in 1776 what?
 
 On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 4:29 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
 
 Mitch Haley wrote:!
 
 
 
 Funny think is,
 
 
 Think? That'll teach me to email at 7 in the morning.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer reliability

2011-09-02 Thread Redghost

OSx is unix

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 Of course computers made by apple are personal computers.  However the MS/DOS 
 (later wintel) crowd claimed Personal computer to mean a MS/DOS machine 
 upon the release of the IBM PC almost 30 years ago.
 
 Even Apple acquiesced to the terminology in their Mac vs PC ads a few years 
 ago.
 
 unfortunate, but that is the way it is.  PC means M$ or M$ or *nix   
 Mac means any PC running the Mac os.
 
 If you are running *nix on a mac platform, then you are left out of the 
 industry terminology, so you have to say *nix running on a mac to describe 
 yourself.
 
 Kind of like is a tomato a fruit or a vegetable?
 
  LWB250 wrote:
 
 If you are going to go PC,
 
 Isn't an Apple a PC?  Personal Computer?  Some of the first ones
 were made by Apple. And Atari, and Commodore, etc.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Looking for 2000 newer E class

2011-09-02 Thread Redghost

Explain.  I am out here and can assist

Clay

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer reliability

2011-08-31 Thread Redghost

Docking station makes hooking it up for desktop use simple

Clay

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 Why would plugging and unplugging it be a pain?  I've used my MacBook Pro
 for almost 4 years for software development and movies, music, etc.  They
 are thinner than many Windows laptop making it easy to carry.  The power
 supplies are small with long cords or you can change the cord to a 2-blade
 connector and the power connection on the laptop side is magnetic so if you
 trip over the cord your laptop doesn't go flying.  Apple also sells an
 Airport Express WiFi adapter that is the same size as the power supply.  I
 usually carry one of these with me too.  That way if I'm at someone's house
 and they can't remember the password or whatever I'll ask if I can connect
 my wifi to their router.  All of this is vastly more comfortable to carry
 than my last work issued Dell or Compaq machines.  The newer Mac's have
 Thunderbolt which is basically puts PCI bus on an external cable and one
 cable can connect the monitor, any keyboards, mice, hard drives, etc.
 
 Brian
 
 
 On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote:
 
 Speaking of computer reliability, my Compaq laptop, which has been used as
 a desktop for five
 years, is showing signs of age with the occasional BSOD. (The very good
 Acronis program always
 restores it).  While replacing the HD is an option, I'd rather get one of
 the bullet proof models that
 have been discussed on this list.
 The new MacBook works great (seven hours of battery time) but I use it off
 the desk, plugging and unplugging would be a pain, and I'm still learning my
 way around it with resultant loss of speed.
 
 Was it the Lenovo (Thinkpad) that was judged to be the best PC laptop?
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer reliability

2011-08-30 Thread Redghost

Win blows partition on the Dell mackintosh kacked, taking the OSx setup data 
with it.  Not sure how.  Decided to just get a Mac pro that will do lion out of 
the box.  No sinking around with unix drivers for non standard hardware to get 
minimal functionality

Clay

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 I was just checking my records, and this 233 MHz Mac G3
 has been rebooted 7 times in the two years that it has
 resided in my new computer room.  It normally runs 24/7,
 is my sole e-mail device and wherefrom I master the web
 site, do all Photoshop/Illustrator work, etc.
 
 Four power failures where the UPS was inadequate to
 the task, two deliberate power-downs during longer
 vacations, and once due to a CD-R image getting logically
 stuck and un-dismountable during a Toast burning session.
 (A vulnerability it has long had, but which is rarely
 a problem.)  Only once in two years due to software failure.
 Take that, Microsoft!  (The PC I am forced to use at work,
 though now largely an xterm and Outhouse machine only,
 can often make it about 2 weeks between reboots.  Unless
 it can't.)
 
 Not bad for free!  I believe I've been running it since
 2005, that's when the HD was formatted anyway.
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer reliability

2011-08-30 Thread Redghost

Expect $150. You could do better with used on cl or a cinese exploding one on
flea bay. I get good life per $$ spent off eBay

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I just bought a used MacBook Pro 15 on ebay. It's very cool but the battery
only takes a 30 minute charge so I need a replacement. My son says to
purchase a new genuine Apple battery. What's the best place to get a good
deal on one of these? How much should I expect to pay?

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I was just checking my records, and this 233 MHz Mac G3
has been rebooted 7 times in the two years that it has
resided in my new computer room. It normally runs 24/7,
is my sole e-mail device and wherefrom I master the web
site, do all Photoshop/Illustrator work, etc.

Four power failures where the UPS was inadequate to
the task, two deliberate power-downs during longer
vacations, and once due to a CD-R image getting logically
stuck and un-dismountable during a Toast burning session.
(A vulnerability it has long had, but which is rarely
a problem.) Only once in two years due to software failure.
Take that, Microsoft! (The PC I am forced to use at work,
though now largely an xterm and Outhouse machine only,
can often make it about 2 weeks between reboots. Unless
it can't.)

Not bad for free! I believe I've been running it since
2005, that's when the HD was formatted anyway.

-- Jim

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer reliability

2011-08-30 Thread Redghost

Ages ago I sourced a nupower for my newton 2100. That thing is still going
strong and holds 98% of new charge ability

Clay

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The OWC NuPower is $99 vs. 129 for an Apple battery (same specs.), which is
more than I want to spend. What about this for about half the price from
Batteryedge?

http://www.batteryedge.com/Apple_MacBook_Pro_15_Inch_Battery_A1175_p/apa1175.htm?gclid=CKSK4tW296oCFUJrKgod4Q06DA

On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.eduwrote:

If you want a genuine Apple battery you will probably need to buy it at
the Apple store. Anything on eBay claiming to be genuine but much
cheaper I would be suspicious of.

Like Dan, I've had very good results with the OWC batteries and would
not hesitate to recommend that approach.

Allan

Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com writes:

OWC (Other World Computing).

Their house brand replacements (Nupower) are very good.

Before you toss the battery or buy a new one, go to Apple's support site
and read up on how to condition a battery. You may be able to resurrect it
somewhat.

More info if you need it - just ask.

Dan

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wrote:

I just bought a used MacBook Pro 15 on ebay. It's very cool but the
battery
only takes a 30 minute charge so I need a replacement. My son says to
purchase a new genuine Apple battery. What's the best place to get a
good
deal on one of these? How much should I expect to pay?

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wrote:

Not bad for free! I believe I've been running it since
2005, that's when the HD was formatted anyway.

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Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-25 Thread Redghost

Well served.  That is why I am able to reluctantly let her go.  My PnP stash is 
another $250 investment that should translate into good cash on sale.  All I 
need are buyers.  I kaleb would come this way, he could have a containers worth 
of parts to peddle.  

Clay

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 Wow, I didn't know that Gump was a $120 car!  60K miles out of a $2K total 
 investment = double wow!  That's way less than the average car payment for 
 average transportation, and a W115 is far from that, IMO.  He served you well 
 indeed!
 
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Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-25 Thread Redghost

SWMBA paid $3k cash to the body shop to pound out dents idiot son put in the 
rear of the e300d.  Did not do full job by replacing bumpers.  She thinks Gump 
is a poor investment and expects me to replace it with some plastic car.

Now I drive the e d with duct tape instead.  Paid cash for both Benz, but I 
have yet to spend as much in shop cost on Gump than on her car.  Same period of 
ownership.  Now she has car payments, massive depreciation, and higher 
insurance fees.

Clay

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On Aug 25, 2011, at 9:47, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

 On 24/08/2011 10:14 PM, Redghost wrote:
 Gump was $120.  I got 60k miles on her, spent $2k, drove 6 years.  He'll of 
 a lot better investment than some cars.  Will get at least that much as 
 scrap, and have sold enough parts off her to cover a few tanks of fuel.
 
 
 Compare that with a nice little 1998 F150 regular cab shortbox 4X4 with a 4.3 
 V6 and a 5 speed manual transmission.
 
 I bought it for about $12K with about 100K miles on it.
 
 Over the next about 3 or 4 years, we spent about $10K on it and ended up 
 selling it for about $3,500.
 
 Not a good deal in my opinion.
 
 Some of the cost was labour as I had to have a major (clutch replacement) 
 repair in the dead of winter and paid to have it done at a shop. ($3600 or 
 thereabouts).
 It also had a nice expensive set of tires on it when we sold it so we cannot 
 hold that against it. Tires wear out and we sold the ones that we took off it 
 as they were not worn out. My younger son was driving it and he insisted he 
 had to have bigger better tires on it. He paid for them.
 
 Most of the other stuff was fairly routine like - starter, alternator, ball 
 joints, shocks, brakes, plugs, wires etc. but it still seems like a lot over 
 a short period of time and we only drove it about 45K miles before we sold it.
 Would have been a lot more if my son had not done much of the later stuff 
 himself. (He was an apprentice then and is now a licenced mechanic.)  We had 
 some little plastic clips break on the back of the intake manifold that cause 
 butterfly valves to open and close in the intake manifold. $2 in parts (for 
 the clips) plus whatever it cost for the manifold gaskets BUT 2 days of work 
 to take it apart and put it back together.
 
 Taking a chance here in that I might invite the gods of vehicle breakdowns 
 here but my 2002 F150 Supercrew has been much better.
 I have had it 5 years or thereabouts. Had about 90K miles when I bought it in 
 2006 and now has about 150K miles.
 Have not spent as much on it.
 Brakes, tires, ball joints, plugs, etc.
 3 ignition coils but two were might fault for not seeing what caused the 
 first to go out.
 Axle seals on the rear end more than once but the big cost on that is the 
 synthetic gear lube and it should be changed once in a while anyway.
 One power door lock actuator that gave up.
 That is about it.
 
 Randy crossing his fingers
 
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Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-24 Thread Redghost

Gump was $120.  I got 60k miles on her, spent $2k, drove 6 years.  He'll of a 
lot better investment than some cars.  Will get at least that much as scrap, 
and have sold enough parts off her to cover a few tanks of fuel.

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On Aug 24, 2011, at 14:39, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 And because you can work on your own car and know how to judge a $1,000 car.
 For value my $400 240D has been hard to beat. I figured when it finally died 
 I had about $2500 in it and I'd driven it 25,000 miles. I'm slowly getting 
 some of that investment back (didn't have to buy a new exhaust for the '78 
 for instance and the scrap weight when it finally leaves) so it was quite 
 economical to have around. Looked like hell and required work every week but 
 quite economical.
 
 -Curt
 
 Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 13:11:11 -0500
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 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] $1000 car
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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
 
 Rolf wrote:
 
 Ripped from benzworld :
 
 1000 Dollar Car Lyrics
 The Bottle Rockets
 
 Thousand dollar car it ain't worth nothin'
 Thousand dollar car it ain't worth shit.
 Might as well take your $1000,
 and set fire to it.
 
 I find that $1000 cars can be a real bargain - but only because
 I don't mind driving a beater.
 
 --Philip
 
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Re: [MBZ] 300D to replace Gump?

2011-08-20 Thread redghost

maybe not.  I am not fond of either the w123 or 124. Not really fond  
of that model line, but for Gump.


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On Aug 19, 2011, at 6:38 PM, Mountain Man wrote:


http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/2553195462.html

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[MBZ] cl idiot of the day

2011-08-20 Thread redghost


http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/2550239923.html

no interest, not mine, at least post the right picture




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Re: [MBZ] OT computer still shuts down

2011-08-15 Thread redghost


Buy a Mac

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On Aug 15, 2011, at 6:41 AM, Rich Thomas wrote:

It is probably the mobo going flaky.  You can get a new mobo/ 
processor cheap, with some memory, maybe a new id card, and just use  
the old box and drives.  Take about 30 min to change it out.   
Microcenter and Newegg have some package deals usually.  Then you'll  
have a new machine that should work OK.


--R

On 8/15/11 9:31 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
I thought yesterday the problem was with the XP drive, with it  
unplugged the vista drive fired up normally.  I did have it do the  
shut down in the middle of booting once after that.  This morning  
it started doing it again.  It would not boot at all, would just  
shut off.  Tried starting in in safe mode with networking, same  
thing, tried just plain safe mode, same thing.  Tried booting with  
last known good configuration, it started normally.  WTF?  I am not  
sure if I mentioned it or not but part of my testing was to try it  
with only 1 stick of memory, then the other.  It did the same thing  
with either so if its go something to do with that, both memory  
sticks are bad.  I also am running it with no power to that 2nd xp  
hard drive and also have the cd drive unplugged in case it was a  
power supply problem (which I dont think it is).  This is just a  
cheapie emachine computer I bought about 4 years ago.  Im leaning  
toward just buying a new one.




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Re: [MBZ] 14 hubcap

2011-08-14 Thread redghost

Same steel wheels as the 114, I have a bunch of hub caps that I was  
saving up for Gump.  One is unpainted, so you could do your own  
matching.



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On Aug 14, 2011, at 8:59 AM, Dieselhead wrote:


You buy it and I'll buy a couple of hubcaps from you.




Dieselhead wrote:
Anybody got a spare 14 hubcap for 123 etc.?  I'd really like to  
find one that is Midnight blue.  Thanks.


I think two of these might be that color:
http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/2537783505.html

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Re: [MBZ] ot computer shuting down update

2011-08-13 Thread redghost

Hit fleabay and snag a cheap chinese case.  I hate wasting cash and  
have had great success with these things.  Pay maybe $5 and get it  
shipped in a week or so.  I have a dozen housing all sorts of old  
drives I keep my pr0n on.  Nothing like 40 gig of various hackintosh  
distros or linux.


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On Aug 13, 2011, at 8:08 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:

You need an external drive box, check Newegg, you can find them  
pretty cheap.  I have a bunch for IDE drives, just bought 2 for SATA  
drives and stuck a dying drive in there and it works find now.   
hmmm. the fan in the drive box probably has something to do with it,  
I think when the drive was in the computer case it was getting too  
hot and crashing.



--R

On 8/14/11 12:06 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
So it appears the shutting down problem was the XP hard drive  
itself.  If I have power plugged into it, vista drive starts up and  
shuts down the computer off.  Sometimes it will try to run a scan  
disk on the 2nd drive and it starts it but gets part way thru and  
shuts down.  If I leave power off the drive it runs fine, its  
running fine now. Never seen a drive shut off a computer like  
that.  I still have many files on it I would like to move over to  
the main hard drive.  Is there some sort of cable adaptor you can  
buy to hook an internal drive externally to a USB port and maybe I  
can try it that way?




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Re: [MBZ] 72 280SE steering wheel, new in bag, what's it worth?

2011-08-12 Thread redghost


Bakelite or the massive thing with the oblong pad in the middle?

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On Aug 12, 2011, at 9:17 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:


Walt Zarnoch wrote:

Title says it all.
Grey/black color.


1972, would that be a W108?
I'd love to have a new W116 wheel, a raccoon gnawed on mine.

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Re: [MBZ] 72 280SE steering wheel, new in bag, what's it worth?

2011-08-12 Thread redghost

NLA?  Dang, I have Gump's wheel.  Pretty good shape for being that  
old.  I would part with it for $50.  I have two more in less nice  
condition.  Got a white on at PnP that sold on eBay years ago for $100


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On Aug 12, 2011, at 11:59 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

Black or white?  They used to be $225 new but I think the black  
wheel has
been discontinued and is NLA.  Check with Tom Hanson at the Classic  
Center.
If the white wheel is still available, I'm guesing that the MB Club  
discount

price is probably in the $350 range.

On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Walt Zarnoch  
zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote:



Yep, W108.

Was bought new from the dealer, the car it was going to go in was 90%
finished with a restoration when it was caught in a shop fire.
The wheel escaped being cooked due to the fire not getting to the
storage areas/parts room.

Walt



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Walt Zarnoch wrote:


Title says it all.

Grey/black color.


1972, would that be a W108?
I'd love to have a new W116 wheel, a raccoon gnawed on mine.

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Re: [MBZ] 306d

2011-08-08 Thread redghost

previa was a great vehicle.  Issue was the cost to keep her road  
worthy v. value in the eyes of SWMBA.  Not worth the trouble of  
hearing her go on about wasted money.  Her hyndai is a rolling turd in  
my eyes, but it is new, so she is happy.  I do not drive her turd



clay

1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs
1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers





On Aug 8, 2011, at 9:53 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:


On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 2:50 PM, redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote:


I had an alltrac previa for a bit and when it died we got rid of it.


Should've held on to the Previa. They seem to be becoming real cult
items, at least in the PNW. There's nothing built right now that's
quite like it, least of all the current crop of Japanese minivans
(have you seen a new Nissan Quest?  It's as big as a Sprinter!).

Alex

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[MBZ] 306d


http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/2533097759.html

I am going to look at this as my replacement for Gump.  Need something  
that I can haul stuff around and having a bus might come in handy.  I  
had an alltrac previa for a bit and when it died we got rid of it.  I  
have far too many parts in storage and now no way to transport them  
for putting on CL.


What should I be on the look out for with this little beauty?

Wonder if Rusty has parts, or will I have to fleabay for parts?



clay

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1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers






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Re: [MBZ] 306d

Been doing web search and I find that much of the parts I have as  
spare for Gump will fit this engine as well.  So I will have  
injectors, glow, filters, gaskets and more in stock


clay

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On Aug 7, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:


Too cool for words.

The only trouble you're going to have if you get it is all the  
listers showing up on your doorstep wanting to take it for a ride...


-Curt

Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 14:50:27 -0700
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Subject: [MBZ] 306d
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http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/2533097759.html

I am going to look at this as my replacement for Gump.  Need something
that I can haul stuff around and having a bus might come in handy.  I
had an alltrac previa for a bit and when it died we got rid of it.  I
have far too many parts in storage and now no way to transport them
for putting on CL.

What should I be on the look out for with this little beauty?

Wonder if Rusty has parts, or will I have to fleabay for parts?



clay

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1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers


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Re: [MBZ] 306d

Yeah.  I would want to arrange for it to get a rebuild to the breaks  
so I do not poosh the petal all the weigh threw the flower.  That will  
allow me to break and not loose control of the truck


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On Aug 7, 2011, at 3:15 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:


Be careful it loosed it's breaks, the petal goes to the flower.

--R

On 8/7/11 5:50 PM, redghost wrote:

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/2533097759.html

I am going to look at this as my replacement for Gump.  Need  
something that I can haul stuff around and having a bus might come  
in handy.  I had an alltrac previa for a bit and when it died we  
got rid of it.  I have far too many parts in storage and now no way  
to transport them for putting on CL.


What should I be on the look out for with this little beauty?

Wonder if Rusty has parts, or will I have to fleabay for parts?



clay

1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs
1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers






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Re: [MBZ] 306d

Poked around the interwebs and MBCA site.  Classic center is snobbish  
and told one guy with a van/bus, he has to source stuff out of  
Freightliner.  It is a old version of the sprinter, so why not?



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1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
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On Aug 7, 2011, at 4:41 PM, Allan Streib wrote:


redghost redgh...@comcast.net writes:


Wonder if Rusty has parts, or will I have to fleabay for parts?


Some of the engine parts maybe, I think it's an OM615.  Many others  
may

be unobtanium.

Allan
--
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] 306d

Tom Hansen thinks they are Freightliners, so I will bow to the  
knowledge, or lack thereof from classic center.



clay

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1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers





On Aug 7, 2011, at 6:23 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:


Poked around the interwebs and MBCA site.  Classic center is
snobbish
and told one guy with a van/bus, he has to source stuff out of
Freightliner.  It is a old version of the sprinter, so why not?..

Doesn't have anything to do with the Sprinter which came decades  
later.


RLE





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Re: [MBZ] 306d


Top speed with a clapped out engine is 85kph

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On Aug 7, 2011, at 6:38 PM, Fmiser wrote:


redghost wrote:



http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/2533097759.html

I am going to look at this as my replacement for Gump.  Need
something that I can haul stuff around and having a bus might
come in handy.  I had an alltrac previa for a bit and when it
died we got rid of it.  I have far too many parts in storage
and now no way to transport them for putting on CL.


I'll bet it'll be slow.  Probably make a 220 with at automatic
transmission seem fast.

But if you are not in a hurry...

--Philip

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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-28 Thread redghost


I have a spare head

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On Jul 27, 2011, at 7:40 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:


If you have a 240 piston, I need one!


There are four, but attached to a crankshaft
in a headless block that's still in the car!

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-27 Thread redghost

Went and drove the thing today.  Closer to Fred Flintstone car than a  
benz.  Totally clapped out and would have required parts enough for  
Rusty to buy a nice bass boat


Clay



On Jul 27, 2011, at 12:14 AM, Fmiser wrote:


redghost wrote:



This TD is a euro with no magic stuff to go wrong.  Manual
everywhere, much as Gump was.


Oooh.  My dream is a TD turbo, manual transmission, manual
heater controls, power windows.

I think I'll probably have to build it to actually get one.

Meanwhile, the family doesn't really fit in a 123 anymore.  I
may have to look for something a bit bigger. *sigh*

--  Philip

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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-27 Thread redghost


YES

All the spare parts will keep you in good stead for ages


Clay


On Jul 27, 2011, at 6:09 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:


Kevin get yer ass over there pronto, this car has your NAME on it.

Pull the engine, do the body work, get Kaleb's replacement engine  
and make this into the beauty you've been dreaming of.



-Curt

Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 20:53:46 -0700
From: redghost redgh...@comcast.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD
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$3500.  I have yet to inspect it, but will be doing that in the
morning.  Need to sell ALL the Gump stuff so that I have cash to
negotiate with.  Buy my stuff!

clay

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1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
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On Jul 26, 2011, at 8:32 PM, kevin kraly wrote:


So what's the asking price for this Euro gem?

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR


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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

Young enough to know she will be caring for me in my dotage, while I  
will be rotting in the ground during hers.


clay

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On Jul 25, 2011, at 9:08 PM, G Mann wrote:

SWMBO must be a young woman an older woman would view your  
efforts to
keep the old girl cared for as long as possible in an entirely  
different
light.  Mark this date in your mind,,, there will come a time when  
wrinkles

and bad knees, flabby arms and sagging [well let's just say,,, gravity
always wins shall we] anyway, the idea of being loved and preserved  
just
because you have been faithful and are worth the effort regardless  
of the

mileage will have a lot more meaning to her.

Grant...

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 6:08 PM, redghost redgh...@comcast.net  
wrote:



I was commenting more upon the obamacare fiasco when granny becomes
economically unfit for further medical care.  Death panels will  
decide she
had a good life, much as SWMBA has decided that Gump should have  
died years
ago.  She hated that car from the moment it arrived.  Must have  
made her

benz look bad?

clay


1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs
1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
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On Jul 25, 2011, at 3:13 PM, WILTON wrote:

Careful, careful.   ;)))


Wilton

- Original Message - From: redghost redgh...@comcast.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD


I have actively given up on Gump.  The laundry list of needs on  
this  car
really are excessive. I love her, but she is the equivalent of  
the  aged
grandma who you can continue pouring cash into the healthcare   
system and

you only prolong her death.
I have to let go and just remember the sweet times we had.  Also  
found  a
nice euro TD with manual trans that fits my present needs  
better.   Gump was

wonderfully idiosyncratic, but she really needed a full body  off
restoration to continue living for the long term.  Doing nickel   
and dime

upgrades was not doing her the justice she deserved.
The newer car is more cash, but SWMBA sees only the logic of  
newer  being
less wrong than money  pit.  Newer money pit, but I can get her   
buy off on
the TD than putting that cash into Gump.  She only sees  Gump as  
always
needing something and not of value for being old.  I  will remind  
her of her
outlook when she reaches that advanced age  where she is wearing  
out and
needs things done.  I will then point out  that she has ceased to  
have value
and I should be getting a newer  model.  One without the sags and  
wrinkles.

Able to produce vigorously.
clay
1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs
1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
On Jul 25, 2011, at 11:41 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:


Dang it, I can remain silent no longer.

You could just stand up and say Darling I love you but I'll drive
whatever I dammed well please, call Kaleb and get that engine!  
I've  seen
you give up on Gump before, I didn't believe it then and I   
don't believe it

now. Pull those eBay ads and get to work.


BTW: Walt I've got a 616 pump, $50 if you pull, central MA, 1  
hour  from

I90...

-Curt

Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 10:27:23 -0500
From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD
Message-ID: 4e2d8b5b.6080...@bennell.ca
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OR, even less controversial - how about taking up golf and  
playing at
every opportunity and dropping $50 to $150 each time plus  
constantly

buying new clubs etc. Not uncommon.

Your good wife should learn to appreciate the fact that Gump is  
a  hobby

as much as a means of transport.

Randy

On 23/07/2011 9:28 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


Women are just stupid that's all their is to it. These women that
gripe at their men because they like cars yet they have  
everything  they
need should try a man with a cocaine habit or who likes to   
beat on women,

then maybe they will have something to complain about

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 23, 2011, at 7:25 AM, Michael  
Canfieldslozuk...@gmail.com

wrote:

Clay,
Ask SWMBA this...Would she prefer that you spend your time  
at

home
wrenching on Gump where you are at her service if she needs  
you or

hanging
out at the bar with the guys tying one on?  Seems your hobby  
could  be

much,
much worse.  Some ladies just need to come to realize that.

Mike
On Jul 23, 2011 2:20 AM, redghostredghost@comcast.**netredgh...@comcast.net 


wrote:

Tear down and full rebuild, since there are leaks in seals  
and  have

to
redo the cylinder walls. Did not look much more at the short  
block
for cracks there. Threw in the towel since I just do not want

Re: [MBZ] PnP adventures

But those with access to PnP could maybe go parts diving for those who  
lack the ammenities of pre-owned parts.


AS for weather.  GIVE ME SOME OF YOUR DANG summer!

clay

1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs
1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers





On Jul 25, 2011, at 9:29 PM, Fmiser wrote:


andrew strasfogel wrote:



PEOPLE!  Not everyone know where you live, which makes your
otherwise trenchant weather observations quite useless unless
you clue us in.


Does it really matter where I live?

We can't trade weather.  We can't trade auto salvage yards.   So
it really is meaningless whether I live in Arkansas, Alaska,
Alabama, or Azerbaijan.


--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD


1984 TD that I am going to look at today

Clay



On Jul 25, 2011, at 10:16 PM, kevin kraly wrote:

Go for the TD!  What year is it?  I would think that it would still  
outrun Gump with the manny and NA engine.


Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon

-Original Message- From: redghost
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 2:13 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

I have actively given up on Gump.  The laundry list of needs on this
car really are excessive. I love her, but she is the equivalent of the
aged grandma who you can continue pouring cash into the healthcare
system and you only prolong her death.

I have to let go and just remember the sweet times we had.  Also found
a nice euro TD with manual trans that fits my present needs better.
Gump was wonderfully idiosyncratic, but she really needed a full body
off restoration to continue living for the long term.  Doing nickel
and dime upgrades was not doing her the justice she deserved.

The newer car is more cash, but SWMBA sees only the logic of newer
being less wrong than money  pit.  Newer money pit, but I can get her
buy off on the TD than putting that cash into Gump.  She only sees
Gump as always needing something and not of value for being old.  I
will remind her of her outlook when she reaches that advanced age
where she is wearing out and needs things done.  I will then point out
that she has ceased to have value and I should be getting a newer
model.  One without the sags and wrinkles.  Able to produce  
vigorously.


clay

1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs
1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers





On Jul 25, 2011, at 11:41 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:


Dang it, I can remain silent no longer.

You could just stand up and say Darling I love you but I'll drive  
whatever I dammed well please, call Kaleb and get that engine!  
I've  seen you give up on Gump before, I didn't believe it then and  
I  don't believe it now. Pull those eBay ads and get to work.



BTW: Walt I've got a 616 pump, $50 if you pull, central MA, 1 hour   
from I90...


-Curt

Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 10:27:23 -0500
From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed


OR, even less controversial - how about taking up golf and playing at
every opportunity and dropping $50 to $150 each time plus constantly
buying new clubs etc. Not uncommon.

Your good wife should learn to appreciate the fact that Gump is a   
hobby

as much as a means of transport.

Randy

On 23/07/2011 9:28 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Women are just stupid that's all their is to it. These women that   
gripe at their men because they like cars yet they have  
everything  they need should try a man with a cocaine habit or who  
likes to  beat on women, then maybe they will have something to  
complain about


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 23, 2011, at 7:25 AM, Michael Canfieldslozuk...@gmail.com  
wrote:



Clay,
Ask SWMBA this...Would she prefer that you spend your time  
at  home
wrenching on Gump where you are at her service if she needs you  
or hanging
out at the bar with the guys tying one on?  Seems your hobby  
could  be much,

much worse.  Some ladies just need to come to realize that.

Mike
On Jul 23, 2011 2:20 AM, redghostredgh...@comcast.net  wrote:
Tear down and full rebuild, since there are leaks in seals and   
have to

redo the cylinder walls. Did not look much more at the short block
for cracks there. Threw in the towel since I just do not want  
to  have

the fight with SWMBA over my overly emotional attachment to Gump.
Best to let her go I can always find another wife anyway.

Clay


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Re: [MBZ] PnP adventures


come back

Wife and I went to the other side of the mountains last weekend.  
(Washington has distinct climates depending on if you are being  
inundated by Pacific moisture or being blocked from that moisture by a  
mountain range.  The eastern half of the state is much drier and  
blessed with heat.)  We brought the wet with us and spent a few days  
with storms and temps 20f lower than average for the area.


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On Jul 25, 2011, at 10:25 PM, Walt Zarnoch wrote:

2 years ago I brought a July heat-wave with me to the seattle area  
when I

visited a friend...

Walt
On Jul 26, 2011 1:22 AM, kevin kraly kr...@comcast.net wrote:
Perpetual autumn is about it. Here in Northern Oregon, we've gotten  
a few
days of Summer, and then it's gone. I want warmer water for  
boating and

water-skiing!

Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon

-Original Message-
From: redghost
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 8:38 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] PnP adventures

Seattle is not having summer. It is having perpetual autumn. Wet and
cold



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On Jul 25, 2011, at 8:27 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:


PEOPLE! Not everyone know where you live, which makes your otherwise
trenchant weather observations quite useless unless you clue us in.

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:


redghost wrote:



Summer has deserted us. Once more we are seeing October
weather with temps around 11c.


Trade you some weather?

Today it reached about 38c (102f). It might get down to 30c
(85f) tonight.


Succulent weather for a fish.
Not good for hitting the PnP, but I had to see if I could
source steel wheels for Gump to roll into greener pastures. I
want the bundts I refinished with the new tires.

So, I head over to the PnP.


Be glad you have a yard to pick from. Around here, there are
none. There is one yard, about 80 miles (130 km) away that
sometimes has a car or two. Otherwise it's just my personal
collection of parts cars.

-- Philip

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Re: [MBZ] PnP adventures


Al Gore was wrong.  There is no

Oh, wait

This is climate change.  Seattle should be in the midst of a prolonged  
dry period from July to September.  I think we have surpassed our  
total average summer precip already.



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On Jul 26, 2011, at 8:10 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote:


Makes it more meaningful for me, since I am a weather nerd..

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:29 AM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:


andrew strasfogel wrote:



PEOPLE!  Not everyone know where you live, which makes your
otherwise trenchant weather observations quite useless unless
you clue us in.


Does it really matter where I live?

We can't trade weather.  We can't trade auto salvage yards.   So
it really is meaningless whether I live in Arkansas, Alaska,
Alabama, or Azerbaijan.


--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] PnP adventures

I stopped because I ran out of storage space. I was stocking up on  
parts for Gump in case oldest boy was not careful in driving her.  He  
was less interested in having to do cold morning starts, and Gump blew  
her gasket around that time ... so he wrecked the wife's car instead.


Now I have all kinds of 114/115 parts and body bits the need new  
homes.  At least I know they are top quality, since I picked them  
myself.



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On Jul 26, 2011, at 8:59 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 8:42 AM, redghost redgh...@comcast.net  
wrote:
But those with access to PnP could maybe go parts diving for those  
who lack

the ammenities of pre-owned parts.



Sounds good to me.  It's been 10 years at least since I was in a PnP
so things may have changed around here (Portland, OR), but the last
time I pretty much decided to give up on it.  There were few European
cars except for VWs, and the prices were outrageous---might as well
buy from Potomac German Auto or some other used-parts dealer and not
have to bother with pulling stuff yourself.

Alex





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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

Older women appreciate things more than the young.  My mistake for  
trading in and thinking I was trading up.


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On Jul 26, 2011, at 9:42 AM, G Mann wrote:

My sympathies to you then, since the early pattern indicates a  
shortfall of
loyalty to old things expect to be sent to the scrap heap as a  
dotage and

replaced with a new pretty model

Cars are so much easier than women,  if you drive another one and  
enjoy it
they never complain, you can kick the tire if it displeases you, and  
even

leave it unattended for months without ever a disparaging word. It's
suspension may sag, but you can get replacement parts, and in 50  
years I've

never heard a car ask does this make my ass look fat?.  :))

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 8:40 AM, redghost redgh...@comcast.net  
wrote:


Young enough to know she will be caring for me in my dotage, while  
I will

be rotting in the ground during hers.

clay


On Jul 25, 2011, at 9:08 PM, G Mann wrote:

SWMBO must be a young woman an older woman would view your  
efforts to
keep the old girl cared for as long as possible in an entirely  
different

light.  Mark this date in your mind,,, there will come a time when
wrinkles
and bad knees, flabby arms and sagging [well let's just say,,,  
gravity
always wins shall we] anyway, the idea of being loved and  
preserved just
because you have been faithful and are worth the effort regardless  
of the

mileage will have a lot more meaning to her.

Grant...

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 6:08 PM, redghost redgh...@comcast.net  
wrote:


I was commenting more upon the obamacare fiasco when granny becomes
economically unfit for further medical care.  Death panels will  
decide

she
had a good life, much as SWMBA has decided that Gump should have  
died

years
ago.  She hated that car from the moment it arrived.  Must have  
made her

benz look bad?

clay


On Jul 25, 2011, at 3:13 PM, WILTON wrote:

Careful, careful.   ;)))



Wilton



I have actively given up on Gump.  The laundry list of needs on  
this

car

really are excessive. I love her, but she is the equivalent of  
the

aged
grandma who you can continue pouring cash into the healthcare   
system

and
you only prolong her death.
I have to let go and just remember the sweet times we had.   
Also found

a
nice euro TD with manual trans that fits my present needs better.
Gump was
wonderfully idiosyncratic, but she really needed a full body  off
restoration to continue living for the long term.  Doing  
nickel  and

dime
upgrades was not doing her the justice she deserved.
The newer car is more cash, but SWMBA sees only the logic of  
newer

being
less wrong than money  pit.  Newer money pit, but I can get  
her  buy

off on
the TD than putting that cash into Gump.  She only sees  Gump  
as always
needing something and not of value for being old.  I  will  
remind her

of her
outlook when she reaches that advanced age  where she is  
wearing out

and
needs things done.  I will then point out  that she has ceased  
to have

value
and I should be getting a newer  model.  One without the sags and
wrinkles.
Able to produce vigorously.
clay

On Jul 25, 2011, at 11:41 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:

Dang it, I can remain silent no longer.


You could just stand up and say Darling I love you but I'll  
drive
whatever I dammed well please, call Kaleb and get that  
engine! I've

seen
you give up on Gump before, I didn't believe it then and I   
don't

believe it
now. Pull those eBay ads and get to work.


BTW: Walt I've got a 616 pump, $50 if you pull, central MA, 1  
hour

from
I90...

-Curt


OR, even less controversial - how about taking up golf and  
playing at
every opportunity and dropping $50 to $150 each time plus  
constantly

buying new clubs etc. Not uncommon.

Your good wife should learn to appreciate the fact that Gump  
is a

hobby
as much as a means of transport.

Randy

On 23/07/2011 9:28 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

Women are just stupid that's all their is to it. These women  
that
gripe at their men because they like cars yet they have  
everything

they
need should try a man with a cocaine habit or who likes to   
beat on

women,
then maybe they will have something to complain about

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 23, 2011, at 7:25 AM, Michael Canfieldslozuk...@gmail.com 


wrote:

Clay,

Ask SWMBA this...Would she prefer that you spend your  
time at

home
wrenching on Gump where you are at her service if she needs  
you or

hanging
out at the bar with the guys tying one on?  Seems your hobby  
could

be
much,
much worse.  Some ladies just need to come to realize that.

Mike
On Jul 23, 2011 2:20 AM, redghostredghost@comcast.net
redgh...@comcast.net
wrote:

Tear down and full rebuild, since there are leaks in seals and

have
to
redo the cylinder walls. Did not look much more at the  
short block
for cracks

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

This TD is a euro with no magic stuff to go wrong.  Manual everywhere,  
much as Gump was.


clay

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On Jul 26, 2011, at 11:54 AM, Fmiser wrote:


andrew strasfogel wrote:



I have an old 83 and new 85.  The 83 has a 1985
transmission and more zip than the 1985, which probably needs
a valve adjustment.


The '85 has a taller differential ratio, so it will be slower to
accelerate if all else is equal.

The '85 got a bunch more (mysterious) vacuum things.  There are
at least three things I don't know what they do.  And one of
them hums after I turn off the engine.

The transmission is different, but I'm not sure how.

--   Philip

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I have everything but a short block at this point.

If you want to arrange for Gump to go to you, I can through EVERYTHING  
I have back in her and prepare her for shipping.


I  have spare mouldings, the seal around door windows, spare doors and  
trunk, door check straps, bundt rims, headlights, tail lights,  
headlight doors, dash speakers, wiper motor, signal stalks, relays,  
instrument clusters, clocks, tail light lenses, ...


what do you need?

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On Jul 26, 2011, at 12:39 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:


Hi Clay

So, what do you have for a 115 that I might want?

Randy - 1976 115 300D

On 26/07/2011 12:44 PM, redghost wrote:
I stopped because I ran out of storage space. I was stocking up on  
parts for Gump in case oldest boy was not careful in driving her.   
He was less interested in having to do cold morning starts, and  
Gump blew her gasket around that time ... so he wrecked the wife's  
car instead.


Now I have all kinds of 114/115 parts and body bits the need new  
homes.  At least I know they are top quality, since I picked them  
myself.



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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

The trap was one of the evil things that led to the POS SDL being  
killed at okie acres



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On Jul 26, 2011, at 7:40 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:


On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't like the extra stuff on the
'85.  Andrew seems to prefer it - but I would rather have the
less refined but simpler.



Andrew likes the fact that the TO on the '85 keeps his trunklid clean.
He doesn't seem to care that sooner or later it will self-destruct
and dump chunks of catalyst into his turbo.

Alex

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Please?!?

She comes with all the spare stuff that will increase your inventory  
in that model.  Bring a large enclosed trailer.  I have crap in two  
garages.  The plan was to get her as close to #2 condition as possible  
with original parts.  Had the head gasket job been a success, I was  
then moving on to the stripping of extraneous bits in preparation for  
painting.  Would have had fresh glass, new glass seals, and upgraded  
silver trim parts all around.


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On Jul 26, 2011, at 8:04 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


I'm half tempted to go up there and get gump from you

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 26, 2011, at 12:44 PM, redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote:

I stopped because I ran out of storage space. I was stocking up on  
parts for Gump in case oldest boy was not careful in driving her.   
He was less interested in having to do cold morning starts, and  
Gump blew her gasket around that time ... so he wrecked the wife's  
car instead.


Now I have all kinds of 114/115 parts and body bits the need new  
homes.  At least I know they are top quality, since I picked them  
myself.



clay

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1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers





On Jul 26, 2011, at 8:59 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 8:42 AM, redghost redgh...@comcast.net  
wrote:
But those with access to PnP could maybe go parts diving for  
those who lack

the ammenities of pre-owned parts.



Sounds good to me.  It's been 10 years at least since I was in a PnP
so things may have changed around here (Portland, OR), but the last
time I pretty much decided to give up on it.  There were few  
European

cars except for VWs, and the prices were outrageous---might as well
buy from Potomac German Auto or some other used-parts dealer and not
have to bother with pulling stuff yourself.

Alex





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Did I mention I have the complete Brake set with rotors and pads?

Also have just from Rusty exhaust system, head gasket set, and some  
more never been used parts.


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On Jul 26, 2011, at 8:32 PM, Benz Hogs wrote:


What's Regina think of that? :)

Luther   KB5QHUOak Park, IL
'87 300SDL (312,xxx mi)
'91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi)

On 7/26/2011 10:04 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

I'm half tempted to go up there and get gump from you

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 26, 2011, at 12:44 PM, redghostredgh...@comcast.net  wrote:

I stopped because I ran out of storage space. I was stocking up on  
parts for Gump in case oldest boy was not careful in driving her.   
He was less interested in having to do cold morning starts, and  
Gump blew her gasket around that time ... so he wrecked the wife's  
car instead.


Now I have all kinds of 114/115 parts and body bits the need new  
homes.  At least I know they are top quality, since I picked them  
myself.



clay

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1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers





On Jul 26, 2011, at 8:59 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 8:42 AM, redghostredgh...@comcast.net   
wrote:
But those with access to PnP could maybe go parts diving for  
those who lack

the ammenities of pre-owned parts.



Sounds good to me.  It's been 10 years at least since I was in a  
PnP

so things may have changed around here (Portland, OR), but the last
time I pretty much decided to give up on it.  There were few  
European

cars except for VWs, and the prices were outrageous---might as well
buy from Potomac German Auto or some other used-parts dealer and  
not

have to bother with pulling stuff yourself.

Alex





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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

$3500.  I have yet to inspect it, but will be doing that in the  
morning.  Need to sell ALL the Gump stuff so that I have cash to  
negotiate with.  Buy my stuff!


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On Jul 26, 2011, at 8:32 PM, kevin kraly wrote:


So what's the asking price for this Euro gem?

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR

-Original Message- From: redghost Sent: Tuesday, July 26,  
2011 8:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is  
DEAD
This TD is a euro with no magic stuff to go wrong.  Manual  
everywhere,  much as Gump was.


clay

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On Jul 26, 2011, at 11:54 AM, Fmiser wrote:


andrew strasfogel wrote:



I have an old 83 and new 85.  The 83 has a 1985
transmission and more zip than the 1985, which probably needs
a valve adjustment.


The '85 has a taller differential ratio, so it will be slower to
accelerate if all else is equal.

The '85 got a bunch more (mysterious) vacuum things.  There are
at least three things I don't know what they do.  And one of
them hums after I turn off the engine.

The transmission is different, but I'm not sure how.

--   Philip

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You go on banned with that language!


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On Jul 26, 2011, at 8:34 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


I don't give a fuck.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:32 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net  
wrote:



What's Regina think of that? :)

Luther   KB5QHUOak Park, IL
'87 300SDL (312,xxx mi)
'91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi)

On 7/26/2011 10:04 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

I'm half tempted to go up there and get gump from you

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On Jul 26, 2011, at 12:44 PM, redghostredgh...@comcast.net  wrote:

I stopped because I ran out of storage space. I was stocking up  
on parts for Gump in case oldest boy was not careful in driving  
her.  He was less interested in having to do cold morning starts,  
and Gump blew her gasket around that time ... so he wrecked the  
wife's car instead.


Now I have all kinds of 114/115 parts and body bits the need new  
homes.  At least I know they are top quality, since I picked them  
myself.



clay

1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs
1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers





On Jul 26, 2011, at 8:59 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 8:42 AM, redghostredgh...@comcast.net   
wrote:
But those with access to PnP could maybe go parts diving for  
those who lack

the ammenities of pre-owned parts.



Sounds good to me.  It's been 10 years at least since I was in a  
PnP
so things may have changed around here (Portland, OR), but the  
last
time I pretty much decided to give up on it.  There were few  
European
cars except for VWs, and the prices were outrageous---might as  
well
buy from Potomac German Auto or some other used-parts dealer and  
not

have to bother with pulling stuff yourself.

Alex





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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

Her hobby is to torment the boys and men in her life with her pious  
manner and lack of vices.  I am can not think of anything she does  
that could be called a hobby other than making jam or sweet  
goodies.  Not going to knock her for that.   I like the rare sweet  
treat or well slathered toast.



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Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs
Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
POS SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers




On Jul 25, 2011, at 8:44 AM, Walt Zarnoch wrote:


Get on her butt about a perfectly acceptable hobby of hers? But that
could get nasty...

Walt

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Randy Bennell  
rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:


OR, even less controversial - how about taking up golf and playing  
at every
opportunity and dropping $50 to $150 each time plus constantly  
buying new

clubs etc. Not uncommon.

Your good wife should learn to appreciate the fact that Gump is a  
hobby as

much as a means of transport.

Randy

On 23/07/2011 9:28 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


Women are just stupid that's all their is to it. These women that  
gripe at
their men because they like cars yet they have everything they  
need should
try a man with a cocaine habit or who likes to beat on women, then  
maybe

they will have something to complain about

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 23, 2011, at 7:25 AM, Michael  
Canfieldslozuk...@gmail.com  wrote:



Clay,
 Ask SWMBA this...Would she prefer that you spend your time  
at home

wrenching on Gump where you are at her service if she needs you or
hanging
out at the bar with the guys tying one on?  Seems your hobby  
could be

much,
much worse.  Some ladies just need to come to realize that.

Mike
On Jul 23, 2011 2:20 AM, redghostredgh...@comcast.net  wrote:


Tear down and full rebuild, since there are leaks in seals and  
have to

redo the cylinder walls. Did not look much more at the short block
for cracks there. Threw in the towel since I just do not want to  
have

the fight with SWMBA over my overly emotional attachment to Gump.
Best to let her go I can always find another wife anyway.

Clay




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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

I have actively given up on Gump.  The laundry list of needs on this  
car really are excessive. I love her, but she is the equivalent of the  
aged grandma who you can continue pouring cash into the healthcare  
system and you only prolong her death.


I have to let go and just remember the sweet times we had.  Also found  
a nice euro TD with manual trans that fits my present needs better.   
Gump was wonderfully idiosyncratic, but she really needed a full body  
off restoration to continue living for the long term.  Doing nickel  
and dime upgrades was not doing her the justice she deserved.


The newer car is more cash, but SWMBA sees only the logic of newer  
being less wrong than money  pit.  Newer money pit, but I can get her  
buy off on the TD than putting that cash into Gump.  She only sees  
Gump as always needing something and not of value for being old.  I  
will remind her of her outlook when she reaches that advanced age  
where she is wearing out and needs things done.  I will then point out  
that she has ceased to have value and I should be getting a newer  
model.  One without the sags and wrinkles.  Able to produce vigorously.


clay

1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs
1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers





On Jul 25, 2011, at 11:41 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:


Dang it, I can remain silent no longer.

You could just stand up and say Darling I love you but I'll drive  
whatever I dammed well please, call Kaleb and get that engine! I've  
seen you give up on Gump before, I didn't believe it then and I  
don't believe it now. Pull those eBay ads and get to work.



BTW: Walt I've got a 616 pump, $50 if you pull, central MA, 1 hour  
from I90...


-Curt

Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 10:27:23 -0500
From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD
Message-ID: 4e2d8b5b.6080...@bennell.ca
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed


OR, even less controversial - how about taking up golf and playing at
every opportunity and dropping $50 to $150 each time plus constantly
buying new clubs etc. Not uncommon.

Your good wife should learn to appreciate the fact that Gump is a  
hobby

as much as a means of transport.

Randy

On 23/07/2011 9:28 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Women are just stupid that's all their is to it. These women that  
gripe at their men because they like cars yet they have everything  
they need should try a man with a cocaine habit or who likes to  
beat on women, then maybe they will have something to complain about


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 23, 2011, at 7:25 AM, Michael Canfieldslozuk...@gmail.com   
wrote:



Clay,
 Ask SWMBA this...Would she prefer that you spend your time at  
home
wrenching on Gump where you are at her service if she needs you or  
hanging
out at the bar with the guys tying one on?  Seems your hobby could  
be much,

much worse.  Some ladies just need to come to realize that.

Mike
On Jul 23, 2011 2:20 AM, redghostredgh...@comcast.net  wrote:
Tear down and full rebuild, since there are leaks in seals and  
have to

redo the cylinder walls. Did not look much more at the short block
for cracks there. Threw in the towel since I just do not want to  
have

the fight with SWMBA over my overly emotional attachment to Gump.
Best to let her go I can always find another wife anyway.

Clay


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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD


She Who Must Be Annoyed

On Jul 25, 2011, at 11:48 AM, Peter Hertzing wrote:

Okay in over 3 years I have not figured it out what does SWMBA stand  
for?


Stupidly yours

Peter

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com  
wrote:



Dang it, I can remain silent no longer.

You could just stand up and say Darling I love you but I'll drive  
whatever
I dammed well please, call Kaleb and get that engine! I've seen  
you give up
on Gump before, I didn't believe it then and I don't believe it  
now. Pull

those eBay ads and get to work.


BTW: Walt I've got a 616 pump, $50 if you pull, central MA, 1 hour  
from

I90...

-Curt

Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 10:27:23 -0500
From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD
Message-ID: 4e2d8b5b.6080...@bennell.ca
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed


OR, even less controversial - how about taking up golf and playing at
every opportunity and dropping $50 to $150 each time plus constantly
buying new clubs etc. Not uncommon.

Your good wife should learn to appreciate the fact that Gump is a  
hobby

as much as a means of transport.

Randy

On 23/07/2011 9:28 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Women are just stupid that's all their is to it. These women that  
gripe
at their men because they like cars yet they have everything they  
need
should try a man with a cocaine habit or who likes to beat on  
women, then

maybe they will have something to complain about


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 23, 2011, at 7:25 AM, Michael Canfieldslozuk...@gmail.com

wrote:



Clay,
 Ask SWMBA this...Would she prefer that you spend your time  
at home

wrenching on Gump where you are at her service if she needs you or

hanging
out at the bar with the guys tying one on?  Seems your hobby  
could be

much,

much worse.  Some ladies just need to come to realize that.

Mike
On Jul 23, 2011 2:20 AM, redghostredgh...@comcast.net  wrote:
Tear down and full rebuild, since there are leaks in seals and  
have to

redo the cylinder walls. Did not look much more at the short block
for cracks there. Threw in the towel since I just do not want to  
have

the fight with SWMBA over my overly emotional attachment to Gump.
Best to let her go I can always find another wife anyway.

Clay


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1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers





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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

I was commenting more upon the obamacare fiasco when granny becomes  
economically unfit for further medical care.  Death panels will decide  
she had a good life, much as SWMBA has decided that Gump should have  
died years ago.  She hated that car from the moment it arrived.  Must  
have made her benz look bad?


clay


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1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
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On Jul 25, 2011, at 3:13 PM, WILTON wrote:


Careful, careful.   ;)))

Wilton

- Original Message - From: redghost redgh...@comcast.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD


I have actively given up on Gump.  The laundry list of needs on  
this  car really are excessive. I love her, but she is the  
equivalent of the  aged grandma who you can continue pouring cash  
into the healthcare  system and you only prolong her death.
I have to let go and just remember the sweet times we had.  Also  
found  a nice euro TD with manual trans that fits my present needs  
better.   Gump was wonderfully idiosyncratic, but she really needed  
a full body  off restoration to continue living for the long term.   
Doing nickel  and dime upgrades was not doing her the justice she  
deserved.
The newer car is more cash, but SWMBA sees only the logic of newer   
being less wrong than money  pit.  Newer money pit, but I can get  
her  buy off on the TD than putting that cash into Gump.  She only  
sees  Gump as always needing something and not of value for being  
old.  I  will remind her of her outlook when she reaches that  
advanced age  where she is wearing out and needs things done.  I  
will then point out  that she has ceased to have value and I should  
be getting a newer  model.  One without the sags and wrinkles.   
Able to produce vigorously.

clay
1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs
1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
On Jul 25, 2011, at 11:41 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:

Dang it, I can remain silent no longer.

You could just stand up and say Darling I love you but I'll  
drive  whatever I dammed well please, call Kaleb and get that  
engine! I've  seen you give up on Gump before, I didn't believe it  
then and I  don't believe it now. Pull those eBay ads and get to  
work.



BTW: Walt I've got a 616 pump, $50 if you pull, central MA, 1  
hour  from I90...


-Curt

Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 10:27:23 -0500
From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD
Message-ID: 4e2d8b5b.6080...@bennell.ca
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed


OR, even less controversial - how about taking up golf and playing  
at

every opportunity and dropping $50 to $150 each time plus constantly
buying new clubs etc. Not uncommon.

Your good wife should learn to appreciate the fact that Gump is a   
hobby

as much as a means of transport.

Randy

On 23/07/2011 9:28 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Women are just stupid that's all their is to it. These women  
that  gripe at their men because they like cars yet they have  
everything  they need should try a man with a cocaine habit or  
who likes to  beat on women, then maybe they will have something  
to complain about


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 23, 2011, at 7:25 AM, Michael  
Canfieldslozuk...@gmail.com   wrote:



Clay,
Ask SWMBA this...Would she prefer that you spend your time  
at  home
wrenching on Gump where you are at her service if she needs you  
or  hanging
out at the bar with the guys tying one on?  Seems your hobby  
could  be much,

much worse.  Some ladies just need to come to realize that.

Mike
On Jul 23, 2011 2:20 AM, redghostredgh...@comcast.net  wrote:
Tear down and full rebuild, since there are leaks in seals and   
have to
redo the cylinder walls. Did not look much more at the short  
block
for cracks there. Threw in the towel since I just do not want  
to  have

the fight with SWMBA over my overly emotional attachment to Gump.
Best to let her go I can always find another wife anyway.

Clay


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[MBZ] PnP adventures

Summer has deserted us.  Once more we are seeing October weather with  
temps around 11c.  Succulent weather for a fish.  Not good for hitting  
the PnP, but I had to see if I could source steel wheels for Gump to  
roll into greener pastures. I want the bundts I refinished with the  
new tires.


So, I head over to the PnP.  They have spruced it up since last I  
shopped.  Only took a tire iron, since I only needed wheels.  Driving  
up there, the outside temp shows 56f.  FML.  Raining, not drizzle, but  
real rain.  Did not bring my wellies, since it was going to be only  
overcast.  At least the entry fee has dropped to $1.


Head out into the yard and  Where the heck are all the wheels?

Rack of tires all priced out expensive like.  The rims are stacked up  
in the processing year looking like they will be used to make more car  
stands.  Hmm.  Lot of the cars in the yard have an excess of stands  
under them, unlike the tripod configuration last time I was in  
attendance.  BUT WHERE ARE THE WHEELS?  not a car there with wheels on  
them.  They are being placed sans wheels now.


poop

Wander the yard anyway in hopes maybe a few spares survived the  
culling.  Found one.  A bundt.  In good condition, but not another  
benz wheel to be found. Many a high end car is seen in the rows.  Four  
jags, a 126, a 116, an SLC, 201, 124, high end audis, land rovers,  
spyders, and  mid level sedans, not the low end junkers.  Head  
scratcher this one.  Decided I did not need yet another bundt, as I  
have enough for three cars.


Better scrounge someplace else, this yard has become to deluxe for me.

clay

1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs
1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers






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Re: [MBZ] PnP adventures

Seattle is not having summer.  It is having perpetual autumn.  Wet and  
cold




clay

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1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers





On Jul 25, 2011, at 8:27 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:


PEOPLE!  Not everyone know where you live, which makes your otherwise
trenchant weather observations quite useless unless you clue us in.

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:


redghost wrote:



Summer has deserted us.  Once more we are seeing October
weather with temps around 11c.


Trade you some weather?

Today it reached about 38c (102f).  It might get down to 30c
(85f) tonight.


Succulent weather for a fish.
Not good for hitting the PnP, but I had to see if I could
source steel wheels for Gump to roll into greener pastures. I
want the bundts I refinished with the new tires.

So, I head over to the PnP.


Be glad you have a yard to pick from.  Around here, there are
none.  There is one yard, about 80 miles (130 km) away that
sometimes has a car or two.  Otherwise it's just my personal
collection of parts cars.

-- Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Show

2011-07-24 Thread redghost

Nile country club for MBCA section show and shine.  Tacoma is for  
honoring the late Gen. Shakashaka... whatever, who was against gays in  
combat.  Died once Obama said it was ok to be gay in the service.


Shooting of low riders was actually not in Tacoma, but north of there  
in the industrial valley suburb of Kent.


clay

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Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
POS SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers




On Jul 24, 2011, at 8:18 PM, Mountain Man wrote:


RLE wrote:

Only on the golf course, I'm thinking.

I never did post all the pictures fromthe 2010 show. What is the  
thinking

about which freebie site works best?


The link didn't say the golf course - Tacoma strip mall someplace.

Get yerself a free gmail addy and use picassa.
I like woger at gmail dot com - it fits... fer okie-kleb and is prolly
not taken as it seems unique and then you might have some need for web
based email, ya never know.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

Tear down and full rebuild, since there are leaks in seals and have to  
redo the cylinder walls.  Did not look much more at the short block  
for cracks there.  Threw in the towel since I just do not want to have  
the fight with SWMBA over my overly emotional attachment to Gump.   
Best to let her go I can always find another wife anyway.


Clay

On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:11 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:

some crazing on top of #1.  Crap!  That is a CRACK!  and there  
looks to be No way will I be able to swing a rebuild.


Just a piston, innit?  Got a clutch of them down in the woods...

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

he has no runners that I know of, and SWMBA is no longer in the mood  
to humor my attempts to make Gump run.  Figure I just bank this for  
another day when I have a stupid desire for a car and I can trot out  
how I finally gave up on Gump and she should now humor me once more.


Clay



On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:27 PM, Walt Zarnoch wrote:


Why not pay Kaleb $250 a ton for a new engine?

Walt

On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 2:20 AM, redghost redgh...@comcast.net  
wrote:
Tear down and full rebuild, since there are leaks in seals and have  
to redo
the cylinder walls.  Did not look much more at the short block for  
cracks
there.  Threw in the towel since I just do not want to have the  
fight with
SWMBA over my overly emotional attachment to Gump.  Best to let her  
go I

can always find another wife anyway.

Clay

On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:11 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:

some crazing on top of #1.  Crap!  That is a CRACK!  and there  
looks to

be No way will I be able to swing a rebuild.


Just a piston, innit?  Got a clutch of them down in the woods...

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD


what sort of pump gremlins?

DAMN!  you tempted me.   Ok, spill... what is up with it?


Clay

BTW, dumping all the good parts from Gump onto eBay at the moment

On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:50 PM, Walt Zarnoch wrote:


I've got a 2.4 with pump gremlins if that helps you any?

Walt

On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 2:36 AM, redghost redgh...@comcast.net  
wrote:
he has no runners that I know of, and SWMBA is no longer in the  
mood to
humor my attempts to make Gump run.  Figure I just bank this for  
another day
when I have a stupid desire for a car and I can trot out how I  
finally gave

up on Gump and she should now humor me once more.

Clay



On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:27 PM, Walt Zarnoch wrote:


Why not pay Kaleb $250 a ton for a new engine?

Walt

On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 2:20 AM, redghost redgh...@comcast.net  
wrote:


Tear down and full rebuild, since there are leaks in seals and  
have to

redo
the cylinder walls.  Did not look much more at the short block  
for cracks
there.  Threw in the towel since I just do not want to have the  
fight

with
SWMBA over my overly emotional attachment to Gump.  Best to let her
go I
can always find another wife anyway.

Clay

On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:11 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:

some crazing on top of #1.  Crap!  That is a CRACK!  and there  
looks to

be No way will I be able to swing a rebuild.


Just a piston, innit?  Got a clutch of them down in the woods...

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

I did point out that the bar bill and time at strip clubs had  
decreased to near nothing since Gump arrived.  She thinks I am still  
and idiot and should use my time in the garden or other girl type  
behaviour.  Not my idea of fun.  She is even making my beloved hens  
leave home, since the kids are worthless at having pets and my  
cholesterol is so bad my MD called her to complain.  Best damn fresh  
eggs in the world!


clay

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On Jul 23, 2011, at 5:25 AM, Michael Canfield wrote:


Clay,
 Ask SWMBA this...Would she prefer that you spend your time at  
home
wrenching on Gump where you are at her service if she needs you or  
hanging
out at the bar with the guys tying one on?  Seems your hobby could  
be much,

much worse.  Some ladies just need to come to realize that.

Mike
On Jul 23, 2011 2:20 AM, redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote:
Tear down and full rebuild, since there are leaks in seals and have  
to

redo the cylinder walls. Did not look much more at the short block
for cracks there. Threw in the towel since I just do not want to have
the fight with SWMBA over my overly emotional attachment to Gump.
Best to let her go I can always find another wife anyway.

Clay

On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:11 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:


some crazing on top of #1. Crap! That is a CRACK! and there
looks to be No way will I be able to swing a rebuild.


Just a piston, innit? Got a clutch of them down in the woods...

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

Dunkel Grun, black interior that I used dupli-color to make more cream  
than bamboo.


Shipping cost for engine... well, total for package?

you are aware Gump is your fault.  Had you not posted that thing six  
years ago, I would not have bid and won.   It must be your revenge for  
buying the POS SDL.


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On Jul 23, 2011, at 7:19 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

So you already started parting it out? Is it green with green? I  
have q great 220d engine


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 23, 2011, at 12:06 AM, redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote:

Finally got into her engine.  She had a good life.  While taking  
the head off, found that the front stanchion had cracked at the  
base and had been spewing a bit of oil around the valve springs.   
Ok, minor setback, but Rusty would have access to fresh. Was going  
to have to trade out the wrong head bolts Tom sent anyway.  Needed  
hex, he sent star.   While it was open, should replace the chain  
tensioners.  Would have ample time to arrive while machine shop had  
the head.


Lift head off and move it out into daylight to see what is what.
Wipe up and look for where the gasket had gone bad.  Yep, right  
between two and three, on three.  Wear and missing a bit around the  
edge.  Just enough for gases to flow into coolant.  Damn.  But no  
damage visible, so, ok, try to get gasket off and look around  
underneath.


Wiping up the stay coolant and oil schmutz.  Looks good so far.   
Minor rust on cylinder walls of three  and two.  Mental note for  
red scruffy pad to take care of that.  Get some light on the whole  
thing and start seeing other issues.  Cylinder walls are smooth, no  
cross hatch at all.  And WTF, there is some crazing on top of #1.   
Crap!  That is a CRACK!  and there looks to be some stress wear on  
all the cylinders around where the pre-chamber divot is.


POOP.

No way will I be able to swing a rebuild.  SWMBA is no at all  
please that I am even tinkering with Gump.  Spent the rest of the  
day stripping out all usable parts for posting on CL.  Maybe I can  
recoup some of the cost.


Anybody need a viable head?  I have the kit from Rusty to go with it.

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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

How far do I need to travel to avail myself of your pump inpaired  
engine?


clay monroe
5702 43rd ave NE
Seattle 98105

206 920-6292

On Jul 23, 2011, at 12:42 PM, Walt Zarnoch wrote:

Torn vac governor diaphragm from what I can tell. It SEVERLY  
overfuels, and

when you open the butterfly, it starts reving for the moon.

Walt
On Jul 23, 2011 3:09 PM, redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote:

what sort of pump gremlins?

DAMN! you tempted me. Ok, spill... what is up with it?


Clay

BTW, dumping all the good parts from Gump onto eBay at the moment

On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:50 PM, Walt Zarnoch wrote:


I've got a 2.4 with pump gremlins if that helps you any?

Walt

On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 2:36 AM, redghost redgh...@comcast.net
wrote:

he has no runners that I know of, and SWMBA is no longer in the
mood to
humor my attempts to make Gump run. Figure I just bank this for
another day
when I have a stupid desire for a car and I can trot out how I
finally gave
up on Gump and she should now humor me once more.

Clay



On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:27 PM, Walt Zarnoch wrote:


Why not pay Kaleb $250 a ton for a new engine?

Walt

On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 2:20 AM, redghost redgh...@comcast.net
wrote:


Tear down and full rebuild, since there are leaks in seals and
have to
redo
the cylinder walls. Did not look much more at the short block
for cracks
there. Threw in the towel since I just do not want to have the
fight
with
SWMBA over my overly emotional attachment to Gump. Best to let  
her

go I
can always find another wife anyway.

Clay

On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:11 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:


some crazing on top of #1. Crap! That is a CRACK! and there
looks to
be No way will I be able to swing a rebuild.


Just a piston, innit? Got a clutch of them down in the woods...

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

I am beginning to suspect SWMBA is in a tizzy about #1 boy going to  
college and is making a massive sweep of the property in an attempt to  
find meaning in her life.  Chix love the boy, whereas #2 boy is not  
favored of chix, because he does not lavish praise upon them or do his  
chores related to them.  Told him if I treated him the way he cares  
for the chickens, he would die of thirst, but would be well on his way  
to starvation as he died.



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Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
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On Jul 23, 2011, at 2:00 PM, Mountain Man wrote:


Dieselhead wrote:

Tell the MD to read up.  (S)He was indoctrinated 30 years ago with
incomplete (or false) information.  Eggs don't raise your  
cholesterol.


Listen to People's Pharmacy radio show July 23, 2011:
http://www.peoplespharmacy.com/2011/07/23/786-cholesterol-controversy/

I remember in 1974 begin of my life in the 'free market' slavery
market - I asked the food company biologist about the egg scare.  He
was an old dude and told me that eggs are balanced relative to
cholesterol.  Plus, you are raising those chix in a stress free
environs and much better food than they receive in the high stress,
high output environ/food at an egg farm.  I picked eggs at an egg
pharm for years one day per week.  Yuck!  Purely disgusting in early
'70's - probably much worse today.  Eggs are delicious when the chix
are treated decently like yours are.  Fuggedabout losing the chix -
keep'em.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

I would love to replace Gump with this. Could hit the PnP all week  
long, and never find a part for it


Clay



On Jul 23, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Michael Canfield wrote:


Clay,
 I suggest spending time at a friends house while telling the Warden  
you
are at the strip club.  I don't know your Mrs. but it sure sounds  
like she

needs a wakeup call from the way you say she owns you.

Mike
On Jul 23, 2011 3:12 PM, redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote:

I did point out that the bar bill and time at strip clubs had
decreased to near nothing since Gump arrived. She thinks I am still
and idiot and should use my time in the garden or other girl type
behaviour. Not my idea of fun. She is even making my beloved hens
leave home, since the kids are worthless at having pets and my
cholesterol is so bad my MD called her to complain. Best damn fresh
eggs in the world!

clay

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Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
POS SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers




On Jul 23, 2011, at 5:25 AM, Michael Canfield wrote:


Clay,
Ask SWMBA this...Would she prefer that you spend your time at
home
wrenching on Gump where you are at her service if she needs you or
hanging
out at the bar with the guys tying one on? Seems your hobby could
be much,
much worse. Some ladies just need to come to realize that.

Mike
On Jul 23, 2011 2:20 AM, redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote:

Tear down and full rebuild, since there are leaks in seals and have
to
redo the cylinder walls. Did not look much more at the short block
for cracks there. Threw in the towel since I just do not want to  
have

the fight with SWMBA over my overly emotional attachment to Gump.
Best to let her go I can always find another wife anyway.

Clay

On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:11 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:


some crazing on top of #1. Crap! That is a CRACK! and there
looks to be No way will I be able to swing a rebuild.


Just a piston, innit? Got a clutch of them down in the woods...

-- Jim




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2011-07-22 Thread redghost

Finally got into her engine.  She had a good life.  While taking the  
head off, found that the front stanchion had cracked at the base and  
had been spewing a bit of oil around the valve springs.  Ok, minor  
setback, but Rusty would have access to fresh. Was going to have to  
trade out the wrong head bolts Tom sent anyway.  Needed hex, he sent  
star.   While it was open, should replace the chain tensioners.  Would  
have ample time to arrive while machine shop had the head.


Lift head off and move it out into daylight to see what is what.
Wipe up and look for where the gasket had gone bad.  Yep, right  
between two and three, on three.  Wear and missing a bit around the  
edge.  Just enough for gases to flow into coolant.  Damn.  But no  
damage visible, so, ok, try to get gasket off and look around  
underneath.


Wiping up the stay coolant and oil schmutz.  Looks good so far.  Minor  
rust on cylinder walls of three  and two.  Mental note for red scruffy  
pad to take care of that.  Get some light on the whole thing and start  
seeing other issues.  Cylinder walls are smooth, no cross hatch at  
all.  And WTF, there is some crazing on top of #1.  Crap!  That is a  
CRACK!  and there looks to be some stress wear on all the cylinders  
around where the pre-chamber divot is.


POOP.

No way will I be able to swing a rebuild.  SWMBA is no at all please  
that I am even tinkering with Gump.  Spent the rest of the day  
stripping out all usable parts for posting on CL.  Maybe I can recoup  
some of the cost.


Anybody need a viable head?  I have the kit from Rusty to go with it.

clay

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Re: [MBZ] schwarz/rot/dummkopf

2011-07-21 Thread redghost

I may have Gump back on the road by then.  Should enter her for most  
cinderella like auto,



clay

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Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
POS SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers




On Jul 21, 2011, at 2:59 AM, Hendrik  Fay wrote:

What??  You're going to make the list more stupid? Can it get any  
more so?


Hendrik
who will not be preparing the 300TE for anything

relng...@aol.com wrote:



In fact, since the annual MBCA car show is next month at the Nile  
Country Club, I may just stupify the list with what I am about to  
do to prepare the C300 for the event.


I do agree with no more black cars, however.

RLE




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Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust continuing saga

2011-07-10 Thread redghost

I might could have done that with Gump, but there are three bolts with  
springs that sort of rust welded themselves together.  Had to sawzall  
the thing or your method would have resulted in a new manifold and  
possibly engine


clay

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On Jul 9, 2011, at 8:53 AM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:


Its too late for this advice, but in the past I was able to break and
exhaust system free from the manifold by dropping it down off of all  
the
rubber hangers and  swinging it side to side a bit from the end at  
the back

of the car.  The torque on that length of pipe is huge.

Just don't go too crazy or you might break the exhaust manifold.   
But this
is unlikely since the weakest point should still be the joint  
between the

manifold and exhaust pipe.

Of course, soaking it with lots of penetrating oil first is necessary.

Jaime


On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com  
wrote:


So unbolting the '83 exhaust at the flange worked well, the 2 bolts  
broke
nicely and it all came out. However I still couldn't get the front  
pipe
detached from the rest and I ended up cutting the first couple  
inches of the
front exhaust pipe. A quick trip to FLAPS got me a 2 exhaust pipe  
adapter
which this morning I welded into place. My welding is definitely  
getting
better, I got only a couple little divots in it, none of which  
appears to go
all the way through. A quick spritz of grill paint should keep the  
weld from
rusting. I only expect this exhaust to be good for a couple three  
years

anyway...

Next step, getting the old rotten exhaust out from under the '78  
while
preserving 2 rubber donuts, I have 2 in my spares pile... I'll  
order 2 (4
really so I have spares) more from Rusty next week so I don't have  
to trust

the used ones.

-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Gump swap job

2011-07-08 Thread redghost

Guess I have to push the radiator out and cut the firewall back to fit  
the engine in.  Gump is a 1972


clay

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Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
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On Jul 7, 2011, at 7:51 PM, OK Don wrote:

I don't remember what chassis gump is, but the '75-'76 W115 300D had  
an
extended nose compared to the '70 220D W115. The rear of the 617 was  
closer

to the firewall, and the front was closer to the radiator.

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net  
wrote:


http://seattle.craigslist.org/**tac/cto/2481215278.htmlhttp://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/2481215278.html 



Might be worth the effort to just swap over the engine to Gump.



I would worry about the engine length.  The 114 nose is longer (?)
than the 115, all 6-cylinder gassers were 114's.  Or so I recall.
So would a 5zyl fit in a 4zyl hole, or would you need the 6zyl hole
(which you ain't got.)

Yes, you would prolly have a driveshaft issue, and what about the  
major

difference in the oil filter housing?  Also, throttle linkage runs
throttle butterfly on air intake versus rack lever on IP, so there
would be some interesting differences there.

-- Jim
--



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Re: [MBZ] The latest Climate change lies

His realtor told him to use 100 watt to make the place more inviting  
and likely to sell.


I have terrible life with CF, but that is due to not having any  
upright lamps in which to stick them.  For the cost, I will go  
incandescent since those do last upside down.  The power company can  
have my money instead of paying less to light up a $7 bulb that goes  
dead in two months.  Also rather have the blind indians making my  
bulbs than the criminal chinese exporting their mercury over here.




clay

Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs
Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
POS SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers




On Jul 7, 2011, at 8:07 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:

Who says the compact florescents burn out quick? In fact I've never  
seen one fail that wasn't mounted upside down and the more recent  
ones seem to tolerate inverse mounting reasonably well.


When we moved into our house everything had 100w incandescents,  
apparently the old man who lived there liked it BRIGHT. I've been  
replacing them as they die, I think I've got 2 or 3 left. In their  
place I'm using 60w equivalent CF bulbs. I bought a bunch cheap  
under some govt program a couple years ago. The oldest ones have 5  
years on them now.


In fact the light next to my computer is an old Phillips CF that I  
paid around $20 for the year I got out of college. That'd be 11  
years ago now. The one in my bedroom lamp is one year newer. Both  
moved with us from our apartment into the house 5 years ago...


People always complain Oh you can't use them on a dimmer. Well  
I've never seen much use for dimmers, if I wanted less lights I'd  
turn on fewer lights, not run the lights I have less bright. Our  
ceiling fan lights all have dimmers and as they fail I'm replacing  
them with normal switches. I've also never encountered a dimmer that  
didn't make noise no matter what kind of bulbs, interestingly its  
just about the same tone as my tinnitus but louder, I'm surprised it  
doesn't drive people crazy... Anyway I don't consider the lack of  
dimmer use a problem since I hate dimmers.


Now the mercury thing, that is a problem but we've seen huge  
advances in LED tech so I figure its just a matter of time. I like  
the instant on aspect of LEDs and their cold tolerance will make  
them better for outside use, although I bought an outside CF a  
year or two ago that works real well...


-Curt

Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 06:25:31 -0700
From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The latest Climate change lies
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Mitch,

They are sealed units, so access to the circuits is not available to  
put a
meter on them.. They have 24 LED's and screw into normal light  
sockets.  The
light emitted is bright, clean, and softwhite.  When I went  
looking, I
found not all LED bulbs are soft white and in fact many / most are  
rather
harsh so you have to ask/look/demand the soft white feature.  You  
will be

glad you did if you want to use them for normal household lighting.

To me, they are so much better than the twisty little congressional  
mandated
bulbs, which burn out quickly, I've found.  Plus total current usage  
is

tiny. At $8 a bulb I can't call them cheap.

Grant.

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Re: [MBZ] The latest Climate change lies

could be my 80+ year old wiring, though most of it is actually less  
than 11 years old.  No real idea why I get crap CFL life.  Still not  
cost effective to use the stupid things.  I like the heat coming off a  
bulb in the winter.  Reduces heating costs.


clay

Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs
Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
POS SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers




On Jul 7, 2011, at 10:54 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:

Must be something about my house I guess. I don't think I've ever  
replaced a CFL...


The one next to my furnace is totally upside down, my back porch  
light (a CFL Spotlight which is a CFL with a reflector) is almost  
upside down and the one over the dryer is sideways as is the one in  
the range hood.


-Curt

Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 09:22:08 -0700
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] The latest Climate change lies
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His realtor told him to use 100 watt to make the place more inviting
and likely to sell.

I have terrible life with CF, but that is due to not having any
upright lamps in which to stick them.  For the cost, I will go
incandescent since those do last upside down.  The power company can
have my money instead of paying less to light up a $7 bulb that goes
dead in two months.  Also rather have the blind indians making my
bulbs than the criminal chinese exporting their mercury over here.



clay

Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs
Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
POS SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers





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[MBZ] Gump swap job


http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/2481215278.html

Might be worth the effort to just swap over the engine to Gump.  Not  
sure how much hacking I would need to do to the drive shaft.   
Manual transmission in Gump.  Then part out this heap to make back the  
purchase price



clay

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Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
POS SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers





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Re: [MBZ] Gump swap job