[MBZ] Cheap CLK

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Doesn't look half bad, needs top

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/192831978593986/

2003 391196981458827 1201158486719381 CLK 320 Cabriolet 2D
Jonesville, NC· 22 hours ago 
· 


$2,200

 * About This Vehicle

 *
 o

 o Driven 156,000 miles
 *
 o

 o Automatic transmission
 *
 o

 o Exterior color: White
 *
 o

 o Good condition
   


Seller's Description

Very nice car. New tires. Does need top.

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[MBZ] These 4.3l v8 Mercedes motors last - million miles.

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Looks like a turd

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/485361592101613/

Seller's Description

2000 M-B CLK430 AMG pkg. Great little daily driver. Clean title car 143k 
miles No check engine lights no leaks , everything works as it should. 
Only flaws are cosmetic. Great little dependable car for a solid price ! 
These 4.3l v8 Mercedes motors last - million miles. Cash only $1800 
Thanks in advance Don’t message me unless you are ready to buy. 
Tags:bmw,Mercedes,Porsche,ford,Honda,Kawasaki,Yamaha,Suzuki,Kia,Toyota,maxima,m,[hidden 
information],Chevrolet,dodge,diesel,turbo,trade,runs and drives,clean 
title,boost,lowered,stance,amg


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[MBZ] Pretty E320

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/129403891676750/

Seller's Description

I have a 2003 Mercedes Benz E320 that is excellent condition.It has 
heated seats sunroof everything works Drives excellent is clean inside 
and out very well maintained with 130k miles ,If interested contact me at


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[MBZ] Here's Andrew's ML

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/677428839731392/

Seller's Description

1 Owner! 2012 Mercedes ML350 DIESEL AMG Sport Package /// 
All-Wheel-Drive Fully Loaded: Lane Departure, Blind Spot Monitoring and 
Driver Assist, Heated Seats (Front and Rear), Heated Steering, 
Navigation, Harmon Kardon Sound! Don’t sacrifice reliability and gas 
mileage with a gas engine, this Diesel averages 27 MPG and has 455 
Lb-Feet Torque. Only 133K Miles Truly an excellent vehicle in like new 
condition. Fully Serviced with Continental Tires ready to go. $13,950.00 
Firm!



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[MBZ] Another cheap 210

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/607681713386591/

Seller's Description

2003 Mercedes-Benz E-Class · Small_car · Driven 200,000 miles I have a 
2003 Mercedes Benz for sell I have a title to it I’m not sure exactly 
what’s wrong with it I do know it needs a good battery and it will crank 
up and run 500$ obo need gone ASAP


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[MBZ] Fought like a girl

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/901343006935610/

1998 391196981458827 2099305863517292 E 320 Sedan 4D
Jacksonville, FL· 10 hours ago 
· 


$630

 * About This Vehicle

 *
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 o Driven 200,000 miles
 *
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 o Automatic transmission
 *
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 o Exterior color: Blue · Interior color: Grey
 *
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 o Poor condition
   

 * Typical Features
 *

 *
   Leather Seats
 *
   Moon Roof
 *
   Alloy Wheels
 *
   ABS
 *

Seller's Description

Sold As Is, needs power Steering, transmission and Spark plugs changed. 
Price includes new PSPump, spark plugs. Will start and run but need to 
tow away. Cold AC Clear Title in hand.


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[MBZ] Fwd: OT Virus

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

--R
Sent from iPhone

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Rich Thomas 
> Date: February 14, 2020 at 7:26:33 AM EST
> To: Mercedes List 
> Subject: OT Virus
> 
> 
> Morning updates.  
> 
> Hoodathunkit the Norks might be hiding something 
> 
> NYT
> 
> More than 1,700 medical workers infected in China
> 
> The Chinese authorities disclosed for the first time today that 1,716 medical 
> workers had contracted the coronavirus and that six had died. The number of 
> infected workers represents 3.8 percent of China’s overall confirmed 
> infections. Here are the latest updates and maps of where the virus has 
> spread.
> The news comes a day after China widened a mass roundup of potential 
> patients, as the government conducts what it has called a “wartime” campaign 
> to stamp out the epidemic.
> Related: The U.S. said it would approve humanitarian assistance to North 
> Korea to help fight the coronavirus. There are fears the country may be 
> hiding an outbreak.
> Go deeper: Psychologists say that differing responses to the virus and the 
> flu illustrate our shortcomings in evaluating danger. Our Interpreter 
> columnist Max Fisher explains.
> 
> WSJ:
> 
> Jump in virus cases fuels new worries. The sharp rise in the number of cases 
> after Chinese authorities changed the criteria for diagnosing the illness has 
> raised questions about how soon the outbreak will peak.
> 
> How many people might one person with the virus infect? Public-health experts 
> are trying to gauge the potential for an epidemic—or, worse, a pandemic—by 
> calculating the pathogen’s basic reproduction number.
> 
> --R
> Sent from iPhone
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[MBZ] Beater ML -- CPS?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/172124957418790/

Mercedes Benz Ml320
Beaufort, SC· 2 days ago 
· 


$500

Year: 2002 Make: Mercedes-Benz Model: Mercedes-Benz M-Class Body style: 
suv Exterior color: Tan Fuel type: Gasoline Vehicle condition: Fair 
Mileage: 184000 Cranks but won't start, has new tires,brakes,control 
arms,shocks etc. Great for parts or fixer upper. Price is firm. Has CT 
title


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[MBZ] need meth money asap

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2632062393508492/

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[MBZ] This has so much wants

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Lifted Morris Minor bogger with OM616

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/492335191452628/

Morris minor lifted
Resaca, GA· about a day ago 
· 


$1,500

CASH OR TRADE. Morris minor sitting on a jeep cj frame. 35 inch boggers. 
Racing fuel cell. Project. Will be awesome when finished. Asking $1500 
obo without motor and trans $2000 with mercedes om616 diesel motor and 4 
speed trans. Will trade for atv. Bikes. Project or complete vehicles. 
Big boat. Etc etc etc Yes its still available. No i wont hold it. Only 
message if your interested in coming to look at it. Don't waste my time


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Re: [MBZ] W124 300D alternator replacement?

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

I went to mail the alternator core back to Autohauz az today. Its value is $45, 
post office wants to charge me $50 to mail it. Is this for real? I told them 
that I’m throwing it right in the garbage. Would UPS be cheaper. I’m only going 
to try once more before it really goes in the trash. My time has some value 
here.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 12, 2020, at 9:17 PM, Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>  See, I am the opposite.   I don't do bodywork.   Since nothing on the 
> larrymobile was visible in normal use, I'm ok with hack and tack on that.
> 
> On each generation of MBs, what should be simple jobs like changing the 
> alternator gets more difficult.  I like 240Ds.  If I'd ever driven a 123 
> 300D, I'm sure I'd like them but I got spoiled with the OM603 and hyd. 
> lifters.
> 
>> Dimitri Seretakis February 12, 2020 at 6:21 PM
>> Thank you for all your advice and as always, I was cursing the whole time 
>> and telling myself how much I prefer bodywork!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT Virus

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Yeah. They dont call them computer "viruses" for nothing :-/



On Fri, Feb 14, 2020, 8:30 AM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> A simple but viable human model of transmission is available in the
> computer world.
> Look at how quickly a computer virus spreads from a single infection...
> sent unknown to everyone on your email short list... who then sends it to
> all their "special friends"... [ie personal contact]...
> Within a very short time, hundreds of thousands of computers are infected
> and servers are down...
>
> This weaponized virus has much the same transmission.
>
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 5:29 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > --R
> > Sent from iPhone
> >
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> > > From: Rich Thomas 
> > > Date: February 14, 2020 at 7:26:33 AM EST
> > > To: Mercedes List 
> > > Subject: OT Virus
> > >
> > > 
> > > Morning updates.
> > >
> > > Hoodathunkit the Norks might be hiding something
> > >
> > > NYT
> > >
> > > More than 1,700 medical workers infected in China
> > >
> > > The Chinese authorities disclosed for the first time today that 1,716
> > medical workers had contracted the coronavirus and that six had died. The
> > number of infected workers represents 3.8 percent of China’s overall
> > confirmed infections. Here are the latest updates and maps of where the
> > virus has spread.
> > > The news comes a day after China widened a mass roundup of potential
> > patients, as the government conducts what it has called a “wartime”
> > campaign to stamp out the epidemic.
> > > Related: The U.S. said it would approve humanitarian assistance to
> North
> > Korea to help fight the coronavirus. There are fears the country may be
> > hiding an outbreak.
> > > Go deeper: Psychologists say that differing responses to the virus and
> > the flu illustrate our shortcomings in evaluating danger. Our Interpreter
> > columnist Max Fisher explains.
> > >
> > > WSJ:
> > >
> > > Jump in virus cases fuels new worries. The sharp rise in the number of
> > cases after Chinese authorities changed the criteria for diagnosing the
> > illness has raised questions about how soon the outbreak will peak.
> > >
> > > How many people might one person with the virus infect? Public-health
> > experts are trying to gauge the potential for an epidemic—or, worse, a
> > pandemic—by calculating the pathogen’s basic reproduction number.
> > >
> > > --R
> > > Sent from iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Here's Andrew's ML

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

He won't like the colour.
I think that Andrew would likely be happier if he found an old Mercedes 
in good shape and bought it.


RB


On 14/02/2020 9:26 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/677428839731392/

Seller's Description

1 Owner! 2012 Mercedes ML350 DIESEL AMG Sport Package /// 
All-Wheel-Drive Fully Loaded: Lane Departure, Blind Spot Monitoring 
and Driver Assist, Heated Seats (Front and Rear), Heated Steering, 
Navigation, Harmon Kardon Sound! Don’t sacrifice reliability and gas 
mileage with a gas engine, this Diesel averages 27 MPG and has 455 
Lb-Feet Torque. Only 133K Miles Truly an excellent vehicle in like new 
condition. Fully Serviced with Continental Tires ready to go. 
$13,950.00 Firm!






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Re: [MBZ] Stuck calipers

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I like Craig's idea of the grease gun best, if you can't stomach buying new
ones ...

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 12:33 PM OK Don  wrote:

> I forgot - c-clamps to keep the pistons from coming all the way out, or
> even a loose fitting block of wood.
>
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 12:25 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> that might get one side out, but how do you get the other side out.
>> I've tried 100+psi air.
>>
>> > OK Don via Mercedes 
>> > February 14, 2020 at 12:20 PM
>> > Hook one onto a brake line, stomp on the brake pedal, the puck will
>> shoot
>> > out.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 12:08 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
>> >
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> --
> OK Don
>
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
> who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric
> fence for themselves."
>
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
>


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"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
pause and reflect." Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] W124 300D alternator replacement?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 You've got a two pronged problem, its relatively heavy for its size and you 
need to ship it pretty far. This is one of the reasons you're usually better of 
buying something like an alternator locally. If its a reman you get the same 
alternator, you don't pay shipping and you don't have to pay to return the 
core...
-Curt

On Friday, February 14, 2020, 1:50:37 PM EST, Dimitri Seretakis via 
Mercedes  wrote:  
 
 I went to mail the alternator core back to Autohauz az today. Its value is 
$45, post office wants to charge me $50 to mail it. Is this for real? I told 
them that I’m throwing it right in the garbage. Would UPS be cheaper. I’m only 
going to try once more before it really goes in the trash. My time has some 
value here.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 12, 2020, at 9:17 PM, Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>  See, I am the opposite.  I don't do bodywork.  Since nothing on the 
> larrymobile was visible in normal use, I'm ok with hack and tack on that.
> 
> On each generation of MBs, what should be simple jobs like changing the 
> alternator gets more difficult.  I like 240Ds.  If I'd ever driven a 123 
> 300D, I'm sure I'd like them but I got spoiled with the OM603 and hyd. 
> lifters.
> 
>> Dimitri Seretakis February 12, 2020 at 6:21 PM
>> Thank you for all your advice and as always, I was cursing the whole time 
>> and telling myself how much I prefer bodywork!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] W124 300D alternator replacement?

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 18:57:20 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

>  You've got a two pronged problem, its relatively heavy for its size
> and you need to ship it pretty far. This is one of the reasons you're
> usually better of buying something like an alternator locally. If its a
> reman you get the same alternator, you don't pay shipping and you don't
> have to pay to return the core... -Curt

I have had alternator problems on our '89 Chevy Beauville (the BRV). The
first time, because I could not figure out how to remove the serpentine
belt, I had a shop about 20 miles away replace the bad one with a rebuilt
from NAPA. It failed with a bad rear bearing. I took the BRV back and they
replaced it with another rebuilt from NAPA. After a while, it failed (I
don't remember the cause).

In the interim, I discovered how to remove the BRV's serpentine belt, so
I replaced the second bad one with a rebuilt from O'Reilly. So far, it
has held up.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Stuck calipers

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Hook one onto a brake line, stomp on the brake pedal, the puck will shoot
out.

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 12:08 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Has anyone come up with a way to free up stuck calipers so they can be
> rebuilt?   I have 3 of them  that need to be freed up.I've tried
> soaking in solvent and mechanical.  I can get the pucks to turn a
> little, but not to come out. They are all 124 rears.
>
> Vinegar soak?
> coca cola soak?
> sulferic acid soak?
>
> Anyone BTDT?
>
> A could throw them out, but if I can fix em, I can use em some  day.
>
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pause and reflect." Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Stuck calipers

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 The great thing about a grease gun is the control you've got...
-Curt

On Friday, February 14, 2020, 1:26:20 PM EST, Craig via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 12:07:53 -0600 Curley McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Has anyone come up with a way to free up stuck calipers so they can be 
> rebuilt?   I have 3 of them  that need to be freed up.    I've tried 
> soaking in solvent and mechanical.  I can get the pucks to turn a 
> little, but not to come out. They are all 124 rears.
> 
> Vinegar soak?
> coca cola soak?
> sulferic acid soak?
> 
> Anyone BTDT?
> 
> A could throw them out, but if I can fix em, I can use em some  day.

When I came upon this situation at the end of my conversion of our
'82 240D to a 240D/3.0, I opted to buy new calipers and, since we were
going to be moving, threw the old ones away.

I did not know at that time about Kroil. Have you tried Kroil and
compressed air?

Better would be Kroil and brake fluid by connecting them to the car's
hydraulic line or to a pressure pack (which might be a grease gun -- fill
the caliper with brake fluid, put a zerk on the supply hole, and pump
grease into the caliper, which can get up to 10,000 psi.).


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] W124 300D alternator replacement?

[dan--- via Mercedes]

Won’t it fit in a Priority Mail flat rate box? At best that would set you back 
$20.

-D

> On Feb 14, 2020, at 1:57 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You've got a two pronged problem, its relatively heavy for its size and you 
> need to ship it pretty far. This is one of the reasons you're usually better 
> of buying something like an alternator locally. If its a reman you get the 
> same alternator, you don't pay shipping and you don't have to pay to return 
> the core...
> -Curt
> 
>On Friday, February 14, 2020, 1:50:37 PM EST, Dimitri Seretakis via 
> Mercedes  wrote:  
> 
> I went to mail the alternator core back to Autohauz az today. Its value is 
> $45, post office wants to charge me $50 to mail it. Is this for real? I told 
> them that I’m throwing it right in the garbage. Would UPS be cheaper. I’m 
> only going to try once more before it really goes in the trash. My time has 
> some value here.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 12, 2020, at 9:17 PM, Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  See, I am the opposite.  I don't do bodywork.  Since nothing on the 
>> larrymobile was visible in normal use, I'm ok with hack and tack on that.
>> 
>> On each generation of MBs, what should be simple jobs like changing the 
>> alternator gets more difficult.  I like 240Ds.  If I'd ever driven a 123 
>> 300D, I'm sure I'd like them but I got spoiled with the OM603 and hyd. 
>> lifters.
>> 
>>> Dimitri Seretakis February 12, 2020 at 6:21 PM
>>> Thank you for all your advice and as always, I was cursing the whole time 
>>> and telling myself how much I prefer bodywork!
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT Virus

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

One of the articles I read said that so far, each person has infected 3 other 
people, on average.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Feb 14, 2020 11:52:28 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes :

> Yeah. They dont call them computer "viruses" for nothing :-/
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020, 8:30 AM G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> > A simple but viable human model of transmission is available in the
> > computer world.
> > Look at how quickly a computer virus spreads from a single infection...
> > sent unknown to everyone on your email short list... who then sends it to
> > all their "special friends"... [ie personal contact]...
> > Within a very short time, hundreds of thousands of computers are infected
> > and servers are down...
> > 
> > This weaponized virus has much the same transmission.
> > 
> > On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 5:29 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --R
> > > Sent from iPhone
> > > 
> > > Begin forwarded message:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > From: Rich Thomas 
> > > > Date: February 14, 2020 at 7:26:33 AM EST
> > > > To: Mercedes List 
> > > > Subject: OT Virus
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Morning updates.
> > > > 
> > > > Hoodathunkit the Norks might be hiding something
> > > > 
> > > > NYT
> > > > 
> > > > More than 1,700 medical workers infected in China
> > > > 
> > > > The Chinese authorities disclosed for the first time today that 1,716
> > > > 
> > > medical workers had contracted the coronavirus and that six had died. The
> > > number of infected workers represents 3.8 percent of China’s overall
> > > confirmed infections. Here are the latest updates and maps of where the
> > > virus has spread.
> > > 
> > > > The news comes a day after China widened a mass roundup of potential
> > > > 
> > > patients, as the government conducts what it has called a “wartime”
> > > campaign to stamp out the epidemic.
> > > 
> > > > Related: The U.S. said it would approve humanitarian assistance to
> > > > 
> > > 
> > North
> > 
> > > Korea to help fight the coronavirus. There are fears the country may be
> > > hiding an outbreak.
> > > 
> > > > Go deeper: Psychologists say that differing responses to the virus and
> > > > 
> > > the flu illustrate our shortcomings in evaluating danger. Our Interpreter
> > > columnist Max Fisher explains.
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > WSJ:
> > > > 
> > > > Jump in virus cases fuels new worries. The sharp rise in the number of
> > > > 
> > > cases after Chinese authorities changed the criteria for diagnosing the
> > > illness has raised questions about how soon the outbreak will peak.
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > How many people might one person with the virus infect? Public-health
> > > > 
> > > experts are trying to gauge the potential for an epidemic—or, worse, a
> > > pandemic—by calculating the pathogen’s basic reproduction number.
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --R
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Re: [MBZ] Stuck calipers

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

that might get one side out, but how do you get the other side out.   
I've tried 100+psi air.



OK Don via Mercedes 
February 14, 2020 at 12:20 PM
Hook one onto a brake line, stomp on the brake pedal, the puck will shoot
out.

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 12:08 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <



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Re: [MBZ] Stuck calipers

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 12:07:53 -0600 Curley McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Has anyone come up with a way to free up stuck calipers so they can be 
> rebuilt?   I have 3 of them  that need to be freed up.    I've tried 
> soaking in solvent and mechanical.  I can get the pucks to turn a 
> little, but not to come out. They are all 124 rears.
> 
> Vinegar soak?
> coca cola soak?
> sulferic acid soak?
> 
> Anyone BTDT?
> 
> A could throw them out, but if I can fix em, I can use em some  day.

When I came upon this situation at the end of my conversion of our
'82 240D to a 240D/3.0, I opted to buy new calipers and, since we were
going to be moving, threw the old ones away.

I did not know at that time about Kroil. Have you tried Kroil and
compressed air?

Better would be Kroil and brake fluid by connecting them to the car's
hydraulic line or to a pressure pack (which might be a grease gun -- fill
the caliper with brake fluid, put a zerk on the supply hole, and pump
grease into the caliper, which can get up to 10,000 psi.).


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Stuck calipers

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Yes, grease gun and a C clamp, works fairly well.
Do one side, put puck back in, then do other side.
You can't have any air in the system, it's too compressible.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Stuck calipers

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I already bought new ones and put them on the car.   I'm trying to see 
if these can be salvaged to put on the shelf as spares.   Probably not, 
but I was able to save 1 of the 4.   It is already on the shelf, ready 
to go.



OK Don via Mercedes 
February 14, 2020 at 12:34 PM
I like Craig's idea of the grease gun best, if you can't stomach 
buying new

ones ...





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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT Virus

[G Mann via Mercedes]

A simple but viable human model of transmission is available in the
computer world.
Look at how quickly a computer virus spreads from a single infection...
sent unknown to everyone on your email short list... who then sends it to
all their "special friends"... [ie personal contact]...
Within a very short time, hundreds of thousands of computers are infected
and servers are down...

This weaponized virus has much the same transmission.

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 5:29 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
>
> --R
> Sent from iPhone
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> > From: Rich Thomas 
> > Date: February 14, 2020 at 7:26:33 AM EST
> > To: Mercedes List 
> > Subject: OT Virus
> >
> > 
> > Morning updates.
> >
> > Hoodathunkit the Norks might be hiding something
> >
> > NYT
> >
> > More than 1,700 medical workers infected in China
> >
> > The Chinese authorities disclosed for the first time today that 1,716
> medical workers had contracted the coronavirus and that six had died. The
> number of infected workers represents 3.8 percent of China’s overall
> confirmed infections. Here are the latest updates and maps of where the
> virus has spread.
> > The news comes a day after China widened a mass roundup of potential
> patients, as the government conducts what it has called a “wartime”
> campaign to stamp out the epidemic.
> > Related: The U.S. said it would approve humanitarian assistance to North
> Korea to help fight the coronavirus. There are fears the country may be
> hiding an outbreak.
> > Go deeper: Psychologists say that differing responses to the virus and
> the flu illustrate our shortcomings in evaluating danger. Our Interpreter
> columnist Max Fisher explains.
> >
> > WSJ:
> >
> > Jump in virus cases fuels new worries. The sharp rise in the number of
> cases after Chinese authorities changed the criteria for diagnosing the
> illness has raised questions about how soon the outbreak will peak.
> >
> > How many people might one person with the virus infect? Public-health
> experts are trying to gauge the potential for an epidemic—or, worse, a
> pandemic—by calculating the pathogen’s basic reproduction number.
> >
> > --R
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[MBZ] Stuck calipers

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Has anyone come up with a way to free up stuck calipers so they can be 
rebuilt?   I have 3 of them  that need to be freed up.    I've tried 
soaking in solvent and mechanical.  I can get the pucks to turn a 
little, but not to come out. They are all 124 rears.


Vinegar soak?
coca cola soak?
sulferic acid soak?

Anyone BTDT?

A could throw them out, but if I can fix em, I can use em some  day.

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Re: [MBZ] Stuck calipers

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I forgot - c-clamps to keep the pistons from coming all the way out, or
even a loose fitting block of wood.

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 12:25 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> that might get one side out, but how do you get the other side out.
> I've tried 100+psi air.
>
> > OK Don via Mercedes 
> > February 14, 2020 at 12:20 PM
> > Hook one onto a brake line, stomp on the brake pedal, the puck will shoot
> > out.
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 12:08 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> >
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pause and reflect." Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
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Re: [MBZ] Stuck calipers

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Got a diesel injector pop tester?
As much as I dislike this guy sometimes, this is a pretty decent idea. Hope I 
don't get a bill for sharing the video. 

https://youtu.be/qc4zlGaJgoA

Rick


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Re: [MBZ] Desperately need a W123 driver's door or door shell

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I did and as mentioned yesterday, found one already.  Thanks for the
helpful links, but  you all need to move on and troll someone else.

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 12:29 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> I already gave him the car-part.com info.  Must be a hundred there.  But
> he has to call them. All cheaper than RIW.
>
> > Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> > February 13, 2020 at 6:38 PM
> > Reading the fine print, I see that shipping is free west of the
> > Rockies and east of the Rockies they add a fuel surcharge, but it’s
> > less than $250.
> >
> > Got any better options?
> >
> > I think not. So quit your carping and being cheap and just call them
> > and buy one. It will be easy for a competent body shop to prep and
> > make it nice off the car.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >
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[MBZ] Attractive China blue W123 300D on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I would have preferred a parchment interior, but otherwise very appealing.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1982-mercedes-benz-300d-turbodiesel-8/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2020-02-14
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Re: [MBZ] Here's Andrew's ML

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Would you like to be my spokesperson? Lousy pay but great recognition.

Yes, black/black is a complete deal breaker..

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 12:20 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> He won't like the colour.
> I think that Andrew would likely be happier if he found an old Mercedes
> in good shape and bought it.
>
> RB
>
>
> On 14/02/2020 9:26 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/677428839731392/
> >
> > Seller's Description
> >
> > 1 Owner! 2012 Mercedes ML350 DIESEL AMG Sport Package ///
> > All-Wheel-Drive Fully Loaded: Lane Departure, Blind Spot Monitoring
> > and Driver Assist, Heated Seats (Front and Rear), Heated Steering,
> > Navigation, Harmon Kardon Sound! Don’t sacrifice reliability and gas
> > mileage with a gas engine, this Diesel averages 27 MPG and has 455
> > Lb-Feet Torque. Only 133K Miles Truly an excellent vehicle in like new
> > condition. Fully Serviced with Continental Tires ready to go.
> > $13,950.00 Firm!
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT Virus

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

>But what is the mechanism? 

Indications are intimate contact and feces. In third world countries where 
proper bathroom hygiene doesn't exist (you know, like toilet paper and running 
water) this will be a disaster. It will probably be a disaster in cities with 
massive homeless populations (Seattle, San Francisco, etc.) 

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Re: [MBZ] W124 300D alternator replacement?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I'll bet if you took it into pieces, it would fit in the box! Getting the 
pulley off might be a challenge though...

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Feb 14, 2020 2:12:43 PM dan--- via Mercedes :

> Won’t it fit in a Priority Mail flat rate box? At best that would set you 
> back $20.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> > On Feb 14, 2020, at 1:57 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > You've got a two pronged problem, its relatively heavy for its size and you 
> > need to ship it pretty far. This is one of the reasons you're usually 
> > better of buying something like an alternator locally. If its a reman you 
> > get the same alternator, you don't pay shipping and you don't have to pay 
> > to return the core...
> > -Curt
> > 
> > On Friday, February 14, 2020, 1:50:37 PM EST, Dimitri Seretakis via 
> > Mercedes  wrote:
> > 
> > I went to mail the alternator core back to Autohauz az today. Its value is 
> > $45, post office wants to charge me $50 to mail it. Is this for real? I 
> > told them that I’m throwing it right in the garbage. Would UPS be cheaper. 
> > I’m only going to try once more before it really goes in the trash. My time 
> > has some value here.
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> > 
> > > On Feb 12, 2020, at 9:17 PM, Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > >  See, I am the opposite. I don't do bodywork. Since nothing on the 
> > > larrymobile was visible in normal use, I'm ok with hack and tack on that.
> > > 
> > > On each generation of MBs, what should be simple jobs like changing the 
> > > alternator gets more difficult. I like 240Ds. If I'd ever driven a 123 
> > > 300D, I'm sure I'd like them but I got spoiled with the OM603 and hyd. 
> > > lifters.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Dimitri Seretakis February 12, 2020 at 6:21 PM
> > > > Thank you for all your advice and as always, I was cursing the whole 
> > > > time and telling myself how much I prefer bodywork!
> > > > 
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Re: [MBZ] W124 300D alternator replacement?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

So what did you pay then?

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 3:09 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I called autohausaz and they told me to collapse the original
> manufacturer’s box (which is required to be returned) and try to stuff both
> the collapsed box and alternator into a priority mail flat rate which is
> what I did and it all just barely fit! The alternator in the manufacturer’s
> box would not fit into the flat rate box as is.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 14, 2020, at 2:12 PM, dan--- via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Won’t it fit in a Priority Mail flat rate box? At best that would set
> you back $20.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Feb 14, 2020, at 1:57 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> You've got a two pronged problem, its relatively heavy for its size and
> you need to ship it pretty far. This is one of the reasons you're usually
> better of buying something like an alternator locally. If its a reman you
> get the same alternator, you don't pay shipping and you don't have to pay
> to return the core...
> >> -Curt
> >>
> >>   On Friday, February 14, 2020, 1:50:37 PM EST, Dimitri Seretakis via
> Mercedes  wrote:
> >>
> >> I went to mail the alternator core back to Autohauz az today. Its value
> is $45, post office wants to charge me $50 to mail it. Is this for real? I
> told them that I’m throwing it right in the garbage. Would UPS be cheaper.
> I’m only going to try once more before it really goes in the trash. My time
> has some value here.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
>  On Feb 12, 2020, at 9:17 PM, Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  See, I am the opposite.  I don't do bodywork.  Since nothing on the
> larrymobile was visible in normal use, I'm ok with hack and tack on that.
> >>>
> >>> On each generation of MBs, what should be simple jobs like changing
> the alternator gets more difficult.  I like 240Ds.  If I'd ever driven a
> 123 300D, I'm sure I'd like them but I got spoiled with the OM603 and hyd.
> lifters.
> >>>
>  Dimitri Seretakis February 12, 2020 at 6:21 PM
>  Thank you for all your advice and as always, I was cursing the whole
> time and telling myself how much I prefer bodywork!
> 
>  Sent from my iPhone
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[MBZ] W124 606 valve spring replacement

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Anyone ever replace valve springs? I am putting some stiffer ones on due to
high egp with the compound turbos. What is the preferred tool? I assume I
just rotate the piston to the top to prevent the valves from falling in.
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Re: [MBZ] W124 300D alternator replacement?

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Go to Staples or a shipping place & see what different shippers can do. Or
sell it fir parts.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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> I went to mail the alternator core back to Autohauz az today. Its value is
> $45, post office wants to charge me $50 to mail it. Is this for real? I
> told them that I’m throwing it right in the garbage. Would UPS be cheaper.
> I’m only going to try once more before it really goes in the trash. My time
> has some value here.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 12, 2020, at 9:17 PM, Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >  See, I am the opposite.   I don't do bodywork.   Since nothing on the
> larrymobile was visible in normal use, I'm ok with hack and tack on that.
> >
> > On each generation of MBs, what should be simple jobs like changing the
> alternator gets more difficult.  I like 240Ds.  If I'd ever driven a 123
> 300D, I'm sure I'd like them but I got spoiled with the OM603 and hyd.
> lifters.
> >
> >> Dimitri Seretakis February 12, 2020 at 6:21 PM
> >> Thank you for all your advice and as always, I was cursing the whole
> time and telling myself how much I prefer bodywork!
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] W124 300D alternator replacement?

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

OR, do like Curley and keep it on the shelf after repair for a spare.

RB who knows that you already managed to stuff it in a box.


On 14/02/2020 3:16 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:

Just have it rebuilt locally and sell it.

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020, 10:50 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I went to mail the alternator core back to Autohauz az today. Its value is
$45, post office wants to charge me $50 to mail it. Is this for real? I
told them that I’m throwing it right in the garbage. Would UPS be cheaper.
I’m only going to try once more before it really goes in the trash. My time
has some value here.




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Re: [MBZ] Stuck calipers

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Heat?

RB


On 14/02/2020 12:07 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Has anyone come up with a way to free up stuck calipers so they can be 
rebuilt?   I have 3 of them  that need to be freed up.    I've tried 
soaking in solvent and mechanical.  I can get the pucks to turn a 
little, but not to come out. They are all 124 rears.


Vinegar soak?
coca cola soak?
sulferic acid soak?

Anyone BTDT?

A could throw them out, but if I can fix em, I can use em some day.

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Re: [MBZ] W124 606 valve spring replacement

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I borrowed a valve spring compressor from someone on this list years ago,
probably for the M117, but it might have been for the OM617. It was a
generic tool, and I had to "beef it up" a bit, but it worked. I returned it
. you know who you are :)

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 5:24 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 13:19:50 -0800 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > Anyone ever replace valve springs? I am putting some stiffer ones on
> > due to high egp with the compound turbos. What is the preferred tool? I
> > assume I just rotate the piston to the top to prevent the valves from
> > falling in.
>
> When they suggested it, I had a racing shop replace the valve springs on
> my '59 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Spyder Veloce with Jaguar springs. That
> enabled the valves to close more quickly and thus the engine could be run
> to higher RPM.
>
> I sold it to a friend who later told me the stronger springs had
> stretched the valve stems and the valves started leaking. He had
> the head redone with new valves and standard springs.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] W124 606 valve spring replacement

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 14/02/2020 5:23 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 13:19:50 -0800 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
 wrote:


Anyone ever replace valve springs? I am putting some stiffer ones on
due to high egp with the compound turbos. What is the preferred tool? I
assume I just rotate the piston to the top to prevent the valves from
falling in.

When they suggested it, I had a racing shop replace the valve springs on
my '59 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Spyder Veloce with Jaguar springs. That
enabled the valves to close more quickly and thus the engine could be run
to higher RPM.

I sold it to a friend who later told me the stronger springs had
stretched the valve stems and the valves started leaking. He had
the head redone with new valves and standard springs.


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change the chip to make the big Ford F250 and F350 diesel trucks make 
more boost to get more power, will stretch the head bolts after a while 
and cause the headgaskets to leak. It is an expensive fix. They don't 
want to give up the extra power, so they use expensive head stud kits to 
retain the heads. I am not sure what breaks next but it will be 
something. Probably main and rod bearings.


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Re: [MBZ] W124 300D alternator replacement?

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

I think UPS has a flat rate deal now. Also, look into Surepost, or perhaps USPS 
Parcel Post. The Parcel Post stuff gets stuck in a corner for a couple months, 
then when the dust accumulation gets just right, it gets shipped. But, it is 
cheaper. 

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Re: [MBZ] A Heart Transplant for Hildegard

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Brilliant.  I did the same for an engine and transmission in my 300TD and
both have worked perfectly since day one.  Well on my way to 1 mm miles,
blowing ice cold all the way there.

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> Waytago!   Be sure to get stated value insurance.
>
> > Kevin Kraly via Mercedes 
> > February 13, 2020 at 9:48 PM
> > I’ve decided to take the leap and have a 111K mile engine installed
> > into Hildegard. My indy shop found it in Cali, and it should be
> > arriving by the middle of next week. The old engine was leaking from
> > the front and rear seals, and blowing it out the oil separator. Rather
> > than throwing easily half the money at this old engine with new
> > gaskets and seals, and half way to a complete R job, this engine
> > will be refreshed with all new gaskets and seals before it goes in.
> > They are going to rebuild the front suspension components that are bad
> > and fix the AC system. It’s going to cost about $6K, but it should run
> > literally forever or until Coronavirus kills everyone off. I know that
> > Pierre Hedary would be proud and happy that another W123 240D will be
> > saved!
> > Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
> > 2019 Sprinter 337 miles, Low Mileage Lutgard AKA Der DoodleWagen
> > 1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard soon to be under the wrenches and
> > upgraded from critical condition
> >
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Re: [MBZ] These 4.3l v8 Mercedes motors last - million miles.

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Find me a documented million mile CLK 430 and I will buy your POS car for
$500.

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> Looks like a turd
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/485361592101613/
>
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> 2000 M-B CLK430 AMG pkg. Great little daily driver. Clean title car 143k
> miles No check engine lights no leaks , everything works as it should.
> Only flaws are cosmetic. Great little dependable car for a solid price !
> These 4.3l v8 Mercedes motors last - million miles. Cash only $1800
> Thanks in advance Don’t message me unless you are ready to buy.
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Re: [MBZ] W124 300D alternator replacement?

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

I had the flat rate box at home so I didn’t mail it yet but I think for that 
larger flat rate box it’ll cost around $20.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 14, 2020, at 3:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> 
> So what did you pay then?
> 
>> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 3:09 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> I called autohausaz and they told me to collapse the original manufacturer’s 
>> box (which is required to be returned) and try to stuff both the collapsed 
>> box and alternator into a priority mail flat rate which is what I did and it 
>> all just barely fit! The alternator in the manufacturer’s box would not fit 
>> into the flat rate box as is.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Feb 14, 2020, at 2:12 PM, dan--- via Mercedes  
>> > wrote:
>> > 
>> > Won’t it fit in a Priority Mail flat rate box? At best that would set you 
>> > back $20.
>> > 
>> > -D
>> > 
>> >> On Feb 14, 2020, at 1:57 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> You've got a two pronged problem, its relatively heavy for its size and 
>> >> you need to ship it pretty far. This is one of the reasons you're usually 
>> >> better of buying something like an alternator locally. If its a reman you 
>> >> get the same alternator, you don't pay shipping and you don't have to pay 
>> >> to return the core...
>> >> -Curt
>> >> 
>> >>   On Friday, February 14, 2020, 1:50:37 PM EST, Dimitri Seretakis via 
>> >> Mercedes  wrote:  
>> >> 
>> >> I went to mail the alternator core back to Autohauz az today. Its value 
>> >> is $45, post office wants to charge me $50 to mail it. Is this for real? 
>> >> I told them that I’m throwing it right in the garbage. Would UPS be 
>> >> cheaper. I’m only going to try once more before it really goes in the 
>> >> trash. My time has some value here.
>> >> 
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >> 
>>  On Feb 12, 2020, at 9:17 PM, Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> 
>> >>>  See, I am the opposite.  I don't do bodywork.  Since nothing on the 
>> >>> larrymobile was visible in normal use, I'm ok with hack and tack on that.
>> >>> 
>> >>> On each generation of MBs, what should be simple jobs like changing the 
>> >>> alternator gets more difficult.  I like 240Ds.  If I'd ever driven a 123 
>> >>> 300D, I'm sure I'd like them but I got spoiled with the OM603 and hyd. 
>> >>> lifters.
>> >>> 
>>  Dimitri Seretakis February 12, 2020 at 6:21 PM
>>  Thank you for all your advice and as always, I was cursing the whole 
>>  time and telling myself how much I prefer bodywork!
>>  
>>  Sent from my iPhone
>>  
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Re: [MBZ] W124 300D alternator replacement?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Ok, sounds good. I'm always amazed at how pricey shipping is to CA, where
my son lives now.

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 3:27 PM Dimitri Seretakis 
wrote:

> I had the flat rate box at home so I didn’t mail it yet but I think for
> that larger flat rate box it’ll cost around $20.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 14, 2020, at 3:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
>
> 
> So what did you pay then?
>
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 3:09 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> I called autohausaz and they told me to collapse the original
>> manufacturer’s box (which is required to be returned) and try to stuff both
>> the collapsed box and alternator into a priority mail flat rate which is
>> what I did and it all just barely fit! The alternator in the manufacturer’s
>> box would not fit into the flat rate box as is.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Feb 14, 2020, at 2:12 PM, dan--- via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Won’t it fit in a Priority Mail flat rate box? At best that would set
>> you back $20.
>> >
>> > -D
>> >
>> >> On Feb 14, 2020, at 1:57 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> You've got a two pronged problem, its relatively heavy for its size
>> and you need to ship it pretty far. This is one of the reasons you're
>> usually better of buying something like an alternator locally. If its a
>> reman you get the same alternator, you don't pay shipping and you don't
>> have to pay to return the core...
>> >> -Curt
>> >>
>> >>   On Friday, February 14, 2020, 1:50:37 PM EST, Dimitri Seretakis via
>> Mercedes  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I went to mail the alternator core back to Autohauz az today. Its
>> value is $45, post office wants to charge me $50 to mail it. Is this for
>> real? I told them that I’m throwing it right in the garbage. Would UPS be
>> cheaper. I’m only going to try once more before it really goes in the
>> trash. My time has some value here.
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>>  On Feb 12, 2020, at 9:17 PM, Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>  See, I am the opposite.  I don't do bodywork.  Since nothing on the
>> larrymobile was visible in normal use, I'm ok with hack and tack on that.
>> >>>
>> >>> On each generation of MBs, what should be simple jobs like changing
>> the alternator gets more difficult.  I like 240Ds.  If I'd ever driven a
>> 123 300D, I'm sure I'd like them but I got spoiled with the OM603 and hyd.
>> lifters.
>> >>>
>>  Dimitri Seretakis February 12, 2020 at 6:21 PM
>>  Thank you for all your advice and as always, I was cursing the whole
>> time and telling myself how much I prefer bodywork!
>> 
>>  Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT Virus

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Some guy stopped over in Singapore, Vienna and other cities on the way back
from Wuhan and apparently was a supercarrier, infecting casual contacts as
he went.

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 3:31 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
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> >But what is the mechanism?
>
> Indications are intimate contact and feces. In third world countries where
> proper bathroom hygiene doesn't exist (you know, like toilet paper and
> running water) this will be a disaster. It will probably be a disaster in
> cities with massive homeless populations (Seattle, San Francisco, etc.)
>
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Re: [MBZ] W124 300D alternator replacement?

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 19:48:27 + (UTC) Max Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> 
> I'll bet if you took it into pieces, it would fit in the box! Getting
> the pulley off might be a challenge though...

With an impact wrench getting the pulley off is not a problem -- at least
it was trivial for my last replacement of the BRV's alternator.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT Virus

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 16:58:23 + (UTC) Max Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> One of the articles I read said that so far, each person has infected 3
> other people, on average.

In nuclear devices, fission is accomplished by each split atom giving off
two neutrons.

A long time ago, I saw a movie where a fellow had a room with a window.
He filled the room with cocked/loaded mousetraps and ran two test cases:

- In the first, each mousetrap had one pingpong ball
resting on the bail.

- In the second, each mousetrap had two pingpong balls
resting on the bail.

Each time he held the door open and tossed in one pingpong ball.

In the first case, a single mousetrap would be sprung and throw its
pingpong ball up into the air. When that pingpong ball fell and hit
another trap, another pingpong ball would be thrown in the air. It
was a long time before all traps had been sprung or the ball fell
onto a trap which had already been sprung.

In the second case, the trap springing rate increased very quickly and
the room was filled with pingpong balls in the air. It took only a few
seconds before the action was done.

I wonder if it is now on youtube ...

Craig

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Re: [MBZ] W124 300D alternator replacement?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 My '83 240D once went through 5 reman alternators before I got one that 
lasted. I'm not 100% sure but it might have been a dodgy battery killing 
alternators or maybe a series of bad alternators ruined the battery. Anyway I 
replaced the battery with the 5th alternator and it lasted until the car 
finally gave up the ghost.
When buying reman alternators definitely buy from somewhere that gives a 
"lifetime" warranty.
-Curt

On Friday, February 14, 2020, 2:17:53 PM EST, Craig via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 18:57:20 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

>  You've got a two pronged problem, its relatively heavy for its size
> and you need to ship it pretty far. This is one of the reasons you're
> usually better of buying something like an alternator locally. If its a
> reman you get the same alternator, you don't pay shipping and you don't
> have to pay to return the core... -Curt

I have had alternator problems on our '89 Chevy Beauville (the BRV). The
first time, because I could not figure out how to remove the serpentine
belt, I had a shop about 20 miles away replace the bad one with a rebuilt
from NAPA. It failed with a bad rear bearing. I took the BRV back and they
replaced it with another rebuilt from NAPA. After a while, it failed (I
don't remember the cause).

In the interim, I discovered how to remove the BRV's serpentine belt, so
I replaced the second bad one with a rebuilt from O'Reilly. So far, it
has held up.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] W124 300D alternator replacement?

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

I called autohausaz and they told me to collapse the original manufacturer’s 
box (which is required to be returned) and try to stuff both the collapsed box 
and alternator into a priority mail flat rate which is what I did and it all 
just barely fit! The alternator in the manufacturer’s box would not fit into 
the flat rate box as is.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 14, 2020, at 2:12 PM, dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Won’t it fit in a Priority Mail flat rate box? At best that would set you 
> back $20.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Feb 14, 2020, at 1:57 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> You've got a two pronged problem, its relatively heavy for its size and you 
>> need to ship it pretty far. This is one of the reasons you're usually better 
>> of buying something like an alternator locally. If its a reman you get the 
>> same alternator, you don't pay shipping and you don't have to pay to return 
>> the core...
>> -Curt
>> 
>>   On Friday, February 14, 2020, 1:50:37 PM EST, Dimitri Seretakis via 
>> Mercedes  wrote:  
>> 
>> I went to mail the alternator core back to Autohauz az today. Its value is 
>> $45, post office wants to charge me $50 to mail it. Is this for real? I told 
>> them that I’m throwing it right in the garbage. Would UPS be cheaper. I’m 
>> only going to try once more before it really goes in the trash. My time has 
>> some value here.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Feb 12, 2020, at 9:17 PM, Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  See, I am the opposite.  I don't do bodywork.  Since nothing on the 
>>> larrymobile was visible in normal use, I'm ok with hack and tack on that.
>>> 
>>> On each generation of MBs, what should be simple jobs like changing the 
>>> alternator gets more difficult.  I like 240Ds.  If I'd ever driven a 123 
>>> 300D, I'm sure I'd like them but I got spoiled with the OM603 and hyd. 
>>> lifters.
>>> 
 Dimitri Seretakis February 12, 2020 at 6:21 PM
 Thank you for all your advice and as always, I was cursing the whole time 
 and telling myself how much I prefer bodywork!
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT Virus

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

It's a respiratory virus. The reason the cases went up was because they
included diagnoses established by CT scan, rather than just the antibody
test (could be DNA but ELISA is more common for screening). Anyway it is
causing pulmonary findings on CT scan, aka pneumonia often enough to bump
the numbers up significantly and is killing some of those people through
respiratory failure. There are hundreds of viruses with tropism for the
respiratory tract; this one is severe in an as-yet poorly defined subset of
people. It is far more contagious than SARS, which is why it will probably
be visiting an ER near each of us this year or next. The superspreader
refers to spread before the source is symptomatic; they might have had a
simple cold or no symptoms at all before falling ill later and being
diagnosed. There seems to be a prodromal mild phase followed by a more
serious later phase with pneumonia.

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020, 12:17 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> But what is the mechanism?  There is an ongoing measles outbreak that is
> far deadlier in Congo right now due to ease of contagion and poor
> vaccination penetration (57%).
>
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 11:59 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > One of the articles I read said that so far, each person has infected 3
> > other people, on average.
> >
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > Feb 14, 2020 11:52:28 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com>:
> >
> > > Yeah. They dont call them computer "viruses" for nothing :-/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Feb 14, 2020, 8:30 AM G Mann via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > A simple but viable human model of transmission is available in the
> > > > computer world.
> > > > Look at how quickly a computer virus spreads from a single
> infection...
> > > > sent unknown to everyone on your email short list... who then sends
> it
> > to
> > > > all their "special friends"... [ie personal contact]...
> > > > Within a very short time, hundreds of thousands of computers are
> > infected
> > > > and servers are down...
> > > >
> > > > This weaponized virus has much the same transmission.
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 5:29 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --R
> > > > > Sent from iPhone
> > > > >
> > > > > Begin forwarded message:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > From: Rich Thomas 
> > > > > > Date: February 14, 2020 at 7:26:33 AM EST
> > > > > > To: Mercedes List 
> > > > > > Subject: OT Virus
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Morning updates.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hoodathunkit the Norks might be hiding something
> > > > > >
> > > > > > NYT
> > > > > >
> > > > > > More than 1,700 medical workers infected in China
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Chinese authorities disclosed for the first time today that
> > 1,716
> > > > > >
> > > > > medical workers had contracted the coronavirus and that six had
> > died. The
> > > > > number of infected workers represents 3.8 percent of China’s
> overall
> > > > > confirmed infections. Here are the latest updates and maps of where
> > the
> > > > > virus has spread.
> > > > >
> > > > > > The news comes a day after China widened a mass roundup of
> > potential
> > > > > >
> > > > > patients, as the government conducts what it has called a “wartime”
> > > > > campaign to stamp out the epidemic.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Related: The U.S. said it would approve humanitarian assistance
> to
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > North
> > > >
> > > > > Korea to help fight the coronavirus. There are fears the country
> may
> > be
> > > > > hiding an outbreak.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Go deeper: Psychologists say that differing responses to the
> virus
> > and
> > > > > >
> > > > > the flu illustrate our shortcomings in evaluating danger. Our
> > Interpreter
> > > > > columnist Max Fisher explains.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > WSJ:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jump in virus cases fuels new worries. The sharp rise in the
> > number of
> > > > > >
> > > > > cases after Chinese authorities changed the criteria for diagnosing
> > the
> > > > > illness has raised questions about how soon the outbreak will peak.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How many people might one person with the virus infect?
> > Public-health
> > > > > >
> > > > > experts are trying to gauge the potential for an epidemic—or,
> worse,
> > a
> > > > > pandemic—by calculating the pathogen’s basic reproduction number.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --R
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT Virus

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 12:59:43 -0800 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
 wrote:

> The superspreader refers to spread before the source is symptomatic;
> they might have had a simple cold or no symptoms at all before falling
> ill later and being diagnosed. There seems to be a prodromal mild phase
> followed by a more serious later phase with pneumonia.

FYI:

In medicine, a prodrome is an early sign or symptom (or set of signs and
symptoms), which often indicate the onset of a disease before more
diagnostically specific signs and symptoms develop. It is derived from
the Greek word prodromos, meaning "running before". Prodromes may be
non-specific symptoms or, in a few instances, may clearly indicate a
particular disease, such as the prodromal migraine aura.

For example, fever, malaise, headache and lack of appetite frequently
occur in the prodrome of many infective disorders.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] W124 300D alternator replacement?

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 19:23:40 + (UTC) Curt Raymond
 wrote:

> When buying reman alternators definitely buy from somewhere that gives
> a "lifetime" warranty. -Curt

Good idea!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] W124 606 valve spring replacement

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I assume they are not too much different than a 603, only x2 and 
probably smaller.   Yes, observe firing order. check for tdc by pushing 
valve down to hit piston before you take the keepers off.  take cams 
off, wiring TC to sprockets.  Mind the keys


You can do 2 pistons at the same time (8 valves)  then rotate 120º repeat.

Big problem is a valve spring compressor.   THe MB special tool is 
stupid expensive. (At least for 603)   I never changed springs but did 
replace valve seals in situ.



Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
February 14, 2020 at 3:19 PM
Anyone ever replace valve springs? I am putting some stiffer ones on 
due to

high egp with the compound turbos. What is the preferred tool? I assume I
just rotate the piston to the top to prevent the valves from falling in.
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT Virus

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

And here we go

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/what-it-was-like-for-doctors-and-nurses-at-an-everett-hospital-to-treat-the-nations-first-novel-coronavirus-patient/#comments

--FT

On 2/14/20 3:30 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

It will probably be a disaster in cities with massive homeless populations 
(Seattle, San Francisco, etc.)


--
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Re: [MBZ] W124 606 valve spring replacement

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 13:19:50 -0800 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Anyone ever replace valve springs? I am putting some stiffer ones on
> due to high egp with the compound turbos. What is the preferred tool? I
> assume I just rotate the piston to the top to prevent the valves from
> falling in.

When they suggested it, I had a racing shop replace the valve springs on
my '59 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Spyder Veloce with Jaguar springs. That
enabled the valves to close more quickly and thus the engine could be run
to higher RPM.

I sold it to a friend who later told me the stronger springs had
stretched the valve stems and the valves started leaking. He had
the head redone with new valves and standard springs.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] W124 606 valve spring replacement

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> Hot rodding for more power usually has side effects... I am not sure what 
> breaks next but it will be something.

Duh, the bank!  :-)

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] W124 300D alternator replacement?

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Just have it rebuilt locally and sell it.

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020, 10:50 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I went to mail the alternator core back to Autohauz az today. Its value is
> $45, post office wants to charge me $50 to mail it. Is this for real? I
> told them that I’m throwing it right in the garbage. Would UPS be cheaper.
> I’m only going to try once more before it really goes in the trash. My time
> has some value here.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 12, 2020, at 9:17 PM, Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >  See, I am the opposite.   I don't do bodywork.   Since nothing on the
> larrymobile was visible in normal use, I'm ok with hack and tack on that.
> >
> > On each generation of MBs, what should be simple jobs like changing the
> alternator gets more difficult.  I like 240Ds.  If I'd ever driven a 123
> 300D, I'm sure I'd like them but I got spoiled with the OM603 and hyd.
> lifters.
> >
> >> Dimitri Seretakis February 12, 2020 at 6:21 PM
> >> Thank you for all your advice and as always, I was cursing the whole
> time and telling myself how much I prefer bodywork!
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
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> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT Virus

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Great stuff - better than any news source that I have come across.  Thanks!

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 4:11 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 12:59:43 -0800 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > The superspreader refers to spread before the source is symptomatic;
> > they might have had a simple cold or no symptoms at all before falling
> > ill later and being diagnosed. There seems to be a prodromal mild phase
> > followed by a more serious later phase with pneumonia.
>
> FYI:
>
> In medicine, a prodrome is an early sign or symptom (or set of signs and
> symptoms), which often indicate the onset of a disease before more
> diagnostically specific signs and symptoms develop. It is derived from
> the Greek word prodromos, meaning "running before". Prodromes may be
> non-specific symptoms or, in a few instances, may clearly indicate a
> particular disease, such as the prodromal migraine aura.
>
> For example, fever, malaise, headache and lack of appetite frequently
> occur in the prodrome of many infective disorders.
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Stuck calipers

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I wish I did!  no.  I should figger out how those guys built one from a 
bottle jack.



Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
February 14, 2020 at 12:59 PM
Got a diesel injector pop tester?
As much as I dislike this guy sometimes, this is a pretty decent idea. 
Hope I don't get a bill for sharing the video.


https://youtu.be/qc4zlGaJgoA

Rick



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Re: [MBZ] W124 300D alternator replacement?

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

https://www.ups.com/us/en/services/shipping/simple-rate.page

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Pretty E320

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Very desirable color.  Should sell easily.

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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/129403891676750/
>
> Seller's Description
>
> I have a 2003 Mercedes Benz E320 that is excellent condition.It has
> heated seats sunroof everything works Drives excellent is clean inside
> and out very well maintained with 130k miles ,If interested contact me at
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT Virus

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

But what is the mechanism?  There is an ongoing measles outbreak that is
far deadlier in Congo right now due to ease of contagion and poor
vaccination penetration (57%).

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 11:59 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> One of the articles I read said that so far, each person has infected 3
> other people, on average.
>
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
>
> Feb 14, 2020 11:52:28 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>:
>
> > Yeah. They dont call them computer "viruses" for nothing :-/
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 14, 2020, 8:30 AM G Mann via Mercedes  >
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > > A simple but viable human model of transmission is available in the
> > > computer world.
> > > Look at how quickly a computer virus spreads from a single infection...
> > > sent unknown to everyone on your email short list... who then sends it
> to
> > > all their "special friends"... [ie personal contact]...
> > > Within a very short time, hundreds of thousands of computers are
> infected
> > > and servers are down...
> > >
> > > This weaponized virus has much the same transmission.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 5:29 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --R
> > > > Sent from iPhone
> > > >
> > > > Begin forwarded message:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > From: Rich Thomas 
> > > > > Date: February 14, 2020 at 7:26:33 AM EST
> > > > > To: Mercedes List 
> > > > > Subject: OT Virus
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > Morning updates.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hoodathunkit the Norks might be hiding something
> > > > >
> > > > > NYT
> > > > >
> > > > > More than 1,700 medical workers infected in China
> > > > >
> > > > > The Chinese authorities disclosed for the first time today that
> 1,716
> > > > >
> > > > medical workers had contracted the coronavirus and that six had
> died. The
> > > > number of infected workers represents 3.8 percent of China’s overall
> > > > confirmed infections. Here are the latest updates and maps of where
> the
> > > > virus has spread.
> > > >
> > > > > The news comes a day after China widened a mass roundup of
> potential
> > > > >
> > > > patients, as the government conducts what it has called a “wartime”
> > > > campaign to stamp out the epidemic.
> > > >
> > > > > Related: The U.S. said it would approve humanitarian assistance to
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > North
> > >
> > > > Korea to help fight the coronavirus. There are fears the country may
> be
> > > > hiding an outbreak.
> > > >
> > > > > Go deeper: Psychologists say that differing responses to the virus
> and
> > > > >
> > > > the flu illustrate our shortcomings in evaluating danger. Our
> Interpreter
> > > > columnist Max Fisher explains.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > WSJ:
> > > > >
> > > > > Jump in virus cases fuels new worries. The sharp rise in the
> number of
> > > > >
> > > > cases after Chinese authorities changed the criteria for diagnosing
> the
> > > > illness has raised questions about how soon the outbreak will peak.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > How many people might one person with the virus infect?
> Public-health
> > > > >
> > > > experts are trying to gauge the potential for an epidemic—or, worse,
> a
> > > > pandemic—by calculating the pathogen’s basic reproduction number.
> > > >
> > > > >
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Re: [MBZ] Attractive China blue W123 300D on BAT

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Yes i wish my china blue didn't have black interior but- that's how i found
it.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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> I would have preferred a parchment interior, but otherwise very appealing.
>
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Re: [MBZ] W124 606 valve spring replacement

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

The preferred tool is basically a lever, one end can be anchored somehow. I'll 
bet it could be fabricated if needed.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Feb 14, 2020 4:20:48 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes :

> Anyone ever replace valve springs? I am putting some stiffer ones on due to
> high egp with the compound turbos. What is the preferred tool? I assume I
> just rotate the piston to the top to prevent the valves from falling in.
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Re: [MBZ] Stuck calipers

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Curley wrote:

> yes, that would help for sure.   Unfortunately I don't even have
> a propane torch here.  A real flame wrench would be better.

Charcoal grill?  Especially with "natural lump" charcoal.

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Re: [MBZ] Stuck calipers

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

yeah, that might just work!   Especially with the shop vac reversed to 
make a "forge blower"    I have some water oak that should be dry.



fmiser via Mercedes 
February 14, 2020 at 9:27 PM
Charcoal grill?  Especially with "natural lump" charcoal.




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[MBZ] 1980 Mercedes 300sd Turbo Diesel - cars & trucks - by owner -...

[Kevin Kraly via Mercedes]

What do you think of this W116 300SD?  Should I add this one to the fleet?
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
2019 Sprinter 336 miles, Low Mileage Lutgard AKA Der DoodleWagen
1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard
https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/d/portland-1980-mercedes-300sd-turbo/7075623804.html


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Re: [MBZ] Stuck calipers

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

yes, that would help for sure.   Unfortunately I don't even have a 
propane torch here.  A real flame wrench would be better.



Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
February 14, 2020 at 4:38 PM
Heat?

RB



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Re: [MBZ] Beater ML -- CPS?

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Go for it. Sounds like,CPS. Ask me how i know about 320's.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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>
> Mercedes Benz Ml320
> Beaufort, SC· 2 days ago
> <
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/172124957418790/?ref=product_details>·
>
>
> $500
>
> Year: 2002 Make: Mercedes-Benz Model: Mercedes-Benz M-Class Body style:
> suv Exterior color: Tan Fuel type: Gasoline Vehicle condition: Fair
> Mileage: 184000 Cranks but won't start, has new tires,brakes,control
> arms,shocks etc. Great for parts or fixer upper. Price is firm. Has CT
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Re: [MBZ] W124 300D alternator replacement?

[Clay via Mercedes]

I liked supporting the local repair shop over FLAPS or online reman.  The list 
had been bashing Bosch alternators at the time and I had a qualified shop in 
town, so I took it to them for fixing.  Cost was a bit more than commercial 
reman, but having a local place I could return a messed up product to for 
warranty was comforting.  I think the difference in price was $15 and no need 
to ship or haul a core around.

The last four alternators I came across at the PnP were tested at FLAPS and 
some were viable.  The others turned out to need a cheap part to put back into 
service.  Probably should have been rebuilt, but for the money they were ok as 
spares.

clay

> On Feb 14, 2020, at 9:57 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You've got a two pronged problem, its relatively heavy for its size and you 
> need to ship it pretty far. This is one of the reasons you're usually better 
> of buying something like an alternator locally. If its a reman you get the 
> same alternator, you don't pay shipping and you don't have to pay to return 
> the core...
> -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] OT Virus

[Clay via Mercedes]

My understanding of contagion for this virus is that it is rather hardy and 
able to survive on surfaces for a while without a host.  The thing seems 
airborne as well, spreading through sneezes and coughing, as well as actual 
touch.  Food handlers, social workers, care providers, anybody with a runny 
nose in close proximity will gladly shed vectors.  I hate sitting in a room 
with the old folks edjumakation courses, as they hack and snortle for 75 
minutes.  Heaven forbid one should sneeze on the coffee urn or cookie tray!

Most recent news report had one of the early evacuees on the State Department 
747 cleared quarantine period of 14 days and then fell ill.  I think it is 
either on base in TX or CA.

clay

> On Feb 14, 2020, at 11:30 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>> But what is the mechanism? 
> 
> Indications are intimate contact and feces. In third world countries where 
> proper bathroom hygiene doesn't exist (you know, like toilet paper and 
> running water) this will be a disaster. It will probably be a disaster in 
> cities with massive homeless populations (Seattle, San Francisco, etc.) 
> 
> Rick

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Re: [MBZ] Attractive China blue W123 300D on BAT

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Stimulating final sale price, since I presently own 2 300D's. One is 1981
with 103,000 miles [I am second owner] and the other is 1985 with 126,000
miles. Both are without blemish,  body wise and interiors are easily 9.5.
 Perhaps, there is a BAT in my future.

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 5:32 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
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> Yes i wish my china blue didn't have black interior but- that's how i found
> it.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
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> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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> > I would have preferred a parchment interior, but otherwise very
> appealing.
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Stuck calipers

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

Put it in a pail of water and heat it on the bbq?Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
 Original message From: Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 Date: 2020-02-14  8:16 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Randy 
Bennell via Mercedes  Cc: Curley McLain 
<126die...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Stuck calipers yes, that would help 
for sure.   Unfortunately I don't even have a propane torch here.  A real flame 
wrench would be better.> Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
> February 14, 2020 at 4:38 PM> Heat?>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Stuck calipers

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Scott wrote:

> This (wood block) worked for me last time (stuck 126 rear
> caliper).  Compressed air didn't budge it.

Compressed air is typically less than 125 PSI.  Pretty wimpy
compared to common brake pressure of 400-500 PSI or hard braking
that can generate over 1000 PSI.  So if the piston was stuck
enough to not move with brake line pressure, it sure won't move
with typical shop compressed air.

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Re: [MBZ] W124 606 valve spring replacement

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Yeah. By the time you have a custom exhaust, intake, two turbos,
wastegates, a hot injection pump, an 87 wagon with a transplanted '99 606
and interior from a 95, with a fully rebuilt rear suspension with half
shafts, new sls, 500e/600sl brakes, a 500e master and a dual diaphragm
vacuum booster from an r129, rebuilt wavetrac diff, 16x8 15 hole wheels,
new dash and vacuum actuators, new wheel bearings, new front suspension,
facelift hood and fenders, new headlights from Latvia, matte black paint,
repaired rear quarter window sill rust, new factory door seals, new
headliner, new AC everything, 500e front seats with new leather covers and
transplanted non memory motors and seat bases, new heater core blah blah
blah, you are sort of over the economic arguments for and against the car.
If it needs new rod bearings at some point, it will likely get forged rods
and 16:1 pistons also. Doubling rated power output is always going to have
a price. So does driving a fully updated stock w124 of any type.

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020, 3:37 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
wrote:

> > Hot rodding for more power usually has side effects... I am not sure
> what breaks next but it will be something.
>
> Duh, the bank!  :-)
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Re: [MBZ] Pretty E320

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Listing says grey exterior color. Bait & switch?

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020, 3:04 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> Very desirable color.  Should sell easily.
>
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 10:17 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/129403891676750/
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> > Seller's Description
> >
> > I have a 2003 Mercedes Benz E320 that is excellent condition.It has
> > heated seats sunroof everything works Drives excellent is clean inside
> > and out very well maintained with 130k miles ,If interested contact me at
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Re: [MBZ] W124 606 valve spring replacement

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I tried that.   I got the job done, but I'd recommend a real tool.   
Preferably the official one or its clone.



Max Dillon via Mercedes 
February 14, 2020 at 6:34 PM

The preferred tool is basically a lever, one end can be anchored 
somehow. I'll bet it could be fabricated if needed.


Max Dillon
Charleston SC




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Re: [MBZ] Stuck calipers

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

This (wood block) worked for me last time (stuck 126 rear caliper).  Compressed 
air didn't budge it.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK
> Don via Mercedes
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Stuck calipers
> 
> I forgot - c-clamps to keep the pistons from coming all the way out, or even a
> loose fitting block of wood.
> 
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 12:25 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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> > that might get one side out, but how do you get the other side out.
> > I've tried 100+psi air.
> >
> > > OK Don via Mercedes  February 14,
> 2020
> > > at 12:20 PM Hook one onto a brake line, stomp on the brake pedal,
> > > the puck will shoot out.
> > >
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