Re: Newsgroups restructure
JTK wrote: So what's the ETA on getting the netscape. out of the names of these groups, seeing as everyone keeps telling me that Netscape and Mozilla are entirely unrelated? Whoever said they're TOTALLY unrelated is a pinhead, much like yourself. -- jesus X [ Booze-fueled paragon of pointless cruelty and wanton sadism. ] email [ jesusx @ who.net ] web [ http://burntelectrons.com ] [ Updated April 29, 2001 ] tag [ The Universe: It's everywhere you want to be. ] warning [ All your base are belong to us. ]
Re: Netscape has pulled secnews.netscape.com service
Hi! It seems secnews is back on its feet, even on the secure port. Christian
Re: Netscape 6.1 instead of 6.5?
JTK wrote: But... then why did NETSCAPE 6.01, which as I keep getting told is TOTALLY UNRELATED TO MOZILLA, leave behind something with MOZ in the name?!?!??! That seems contrary to reason, doesn't it? Excuse me? Netscape 6.01 is based on the same Mozilla branch as Mozilla 0.6 - Netscape 6.01 is a Netscape customized version of Mozilla 0.6. Holger -- Leela: Just relax, Bender. Tomorrow we'll pry you down, have a nice breakfast, and then go hunt down and slaughter that ancient evil. Fry: It'll be a rich full day. Netscape 6 FAQ deutsch: http://www.hmetzger.de
Another suggestion: part II
Well, here I am again, with another suggestion I have: This time is related mail responsing, again inside a mailing list. Suppose that I want to answer a mail that I've received from a mailing list. How can I do it if I just want to answer to the mailing list?, not to the person that has written it. Well I have two options: 1) Reply All: With this option the message is adressed to (for instance inside this mailing list): the person who has written it, the mailing list's address, and the newsgroup. Well, this is ok, but I just wanna answer to the mailing list. If I want to do it I have to delete two of the adresses it indicates. 2) Reply: With this option, the message is adressed to the person who has written it. Well, this is another choice. But as I said before, I want to write only to the mailing list, but not to the one who has written it. - Here is where I find the BUG, when you change the address to write, i.e. you change the person who has written it to the address of the mailing list, everything seems ok, but the message is adressed ONLY to the person who has written it. Well that's all. Thanks
Re: Netscape 6.1 instead of 6.5?
jesus X wrote JTK wrote: Carlfish wrote: HTH, HAND, *plonk* Anyway, didn't you *plonk* me already Charlie? When people reply to you, that's a good sign you haven't been plonked yet. This particular troll has changed his (faked) e-mail address more than once, presumably _because_ he noticed that no-one was replying. I *plonked* with as much prejudice as this crappy MS news client would allow me, but I suspect that many others just blocked the moving target. The didn't you plonk me already was presumably a childish nose-thumbing. -- gav Playing: TFC1.5; Tachyon: The Fringe; Now reading: Fairyland, Paul J McAuley; Just read: Cosmonaut Keep, Ken MacLeod; Just Read: To Hold Infinity, John Meaney; Thief Of Time, Terry Pratchett;
Re: Mozilla Mail/Newsgroup and Proxy+
Hi, Fulvio Perini schrieb: Henno Buschmann wrote: i just downloaded Mozilla 0.91 on my Workstation, which has no direct Internetconnection. The Computer connects through a Proxy on my Server to the internet. For HTTP it works fine. But not for Mail and Newsgroups. I configured the Proxy for Socks 5 and HTTP Proxy, so i did in Mozilla, but Mail doesn't work. Which protocol is to use? I have been successful with Direct connection to Internet,although,I always get the Alert:Connection refused to server. But,then comes the Password box,and I am ok. I get: Connection refused to the server. Than i press ok and nothing happen :( bye, -- Henno Buschmann * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows API Programmierung (Tutorials/Referenz): http://www.win-api.de/
[Offtopic] Re: Netscape 6.1 instead of 6.5?
On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:19:17 +0100, Gavin Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] somehow managed to type: I *plonked* with as much prejudice as this crappy MS news client would allow me, but I suspect that many others just blocked the moving target. When someone finds me a GUI client that does even half the things slrn does, I'll be amazed, but probably still won't use it. (because I wouldn't be able to detach it in screen[1] and take it to work.) Things like being able to gradually reduce the priority of messages based on how many newsgroups they're cross-posted to, or whether they've got all-caps subject lines become invaluable very quickly. And being able to automagically highlight anything that's a follow-up to your own post is nice for busy groups. (or when you just need an ego-boost) Charles Miller [1] The author of screen should be sainted.
Re: Another suggestion: part II
And it came to pass that Alex Usero wrote: Well, here I am again, with another suggestion I have: This time is related mail responsing, again inside a mailing list. Suppose that I want to answer a mail that I've received from a mailing list. How can I do it if I just want to answer to the mailing list?, not to the person that has written it. Well I have two options: 1) Reply All: With this option the message is adressed to (for instance inside this mailing list): the person who has written it, the mailing list's address, and the newsgroup. Well, this is ok, but I just wanna answer to the mailing list. If I want to do it I have to delete two of the adresses it indicates. 2) Reply: With this option, the message is adressed to the person who has written it. Well, this is another choice. But as I said before, I want to write only to the mailing list, but not to the one who has written it. - Here is where I find the BUG, when you change the address to write, i.e. you change the person who has written it to the address of the mailing list, everything seems ok, but the message is adressed ONLY to the person who has written it. Well that's all. Thanks I filed a bug on this last year, presumably it's in the works somewhere. -- }:-) Christopher Jahn {:-( Dionysian Reveler He was so narrow-minded he could see through a keyhole with both eyes. To reply: xjahnATyahooDOTcom
Re: Java Flash dont work!!
Andrew Bevitt wrote: Im new to mozilla, and im entirely confused to why it wont wrok properly. I am running mozilla 0.9.1 on debian (woody), now I installed the program to /usr/local/mozilla and then made a symlink to my java runtimes ln -s /usr/local/java/jre /usr/local/mozilla/plugins/java2 and then another link to libjavaplugin_oji.so in the same directory I then downloaded the Flash files extracted them and placed them in the directory aswell This didnt work niether java or flash were detect (java jdk 1.3.1) so I proceeded under a friends advise to install mozilla in my home dir I have done that now and done all the links again lo and behold it dont work Someone help please Thankz!! Yeah that worked thankz!!
How to move the profile folder to another drive???
time! The mail and LDAP is now really usable. However, under WinNT it migrates my Netscape Navigator profile over to Mozilla, but puts it under my WinNT profile on my hard drive (i.e. C:\WINNT\PROFILES\username\APPLICATION DATA\MOZILLA). It cannot be put there, because we use NT roaming profiles and it increases the size of my profile beyond what the limits imposed upon us are. And when doing the import/conversion of the Netscape profile, it never asks you where you would like to store it. We have a network folder where these things need to go... So, what does one do to MOVE the Mozilla profile folder over to another drive and still retain all your settings? Or is there a way I can reinstall it (or re-run the Netscape converter) and have Mozilla ask me where I want to put the folder? Thanks in advance. Tom -- |||/ (@@) ooO_(_)_Ooo |___||_|__ |_|_|_|___
Re: Netscape has pulled secnews.netscape.com service
Christian Mattar wrote: Hi! It seems secnews is back on its feet, even on the secure port. Christian And not only that, we're still in the Browser business .. fancy that !! :o) -- Jay Garcia - Netscape Champion Novell MCNE-5/CNI UFAQ - http://www.UFAQ.org Post To Group ONLY, No Email Please!!
Re: Netscape has pulled secnews.netscape.com service
Hi! Jay Garcia wrote: Christian Mattar wrote: Hi! It seems secnews is back on its feet, even on the secure port. Christian And not only that, we're still in the Browser business .. fancy that !! :o) It gets better and better - Imagine: Netscape is != Mozilla, although they share some registry keys! Can things get even more implausible? :-P Christian
weird rendering
On pdabuzz the forums are rendered very weird with the latest nightly. See http://www2.pdabuzz.com/Forums/showthread.php?s=threadid=18715 Don't know if this is a bug in the design though. -- - Torgeir
DIV: Re: General Question
WOW We have a genious in our midst! Anyone that can understand Unix and Windows. Plus experince the joy of using Mac as well. Must be up there with Einstein!! What little I have fiddled with it (helping a Windows friend trouble shoot a problem. I do like the looks of 98 better than 95. Asa Dotzler wrote: JTK wrote: snip NOBODY uses Win9x because they like it! They use it only because they have no other realistic option, and nobody seems to be willing to give them one. I'm nobody. I like Windows 98 more than NT, 2K or XP. I have them all running, along with Mac OS 8.5, 9.1 and X, and RedHat 6.1 (I'll have 7.1 rsn). I like all of them. They all have strong points. They all have weak points. --Asa -- -- Phillip M. Jones, CET |MEMBER:VPEA (LIFE) ETA-I, NESDA,ISCET, Sterling 616 Liberty Street|Who's Who. PHONE:540-632-5045, FAX:540-632-0868 Martinsville Va 24112-1809|[EMAIL PROTECTED], ICQ11269732, AIM pjonescet -- If it's fixed, don't break it! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Netscape has pulled secnews.netscape.com service
Jay Garcia wrote: Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: DeMoN_LaG wrote: Holger Metzger wrote: On 6/10/01 6:20 PM, Chuck Simmons wrote: Holger Metzger wrote: On 6/10/01 4:19 PM, Mark wrote: After calling Netscape Communications on Friday evening when Netscape's secured news servers (secnews.netscape.com, port 563) when it become inaccessible, John from Netscape Communications informed me that Netscape is no longer interested in continuing the news server service and has pulled the service. He asked me if I read the recent news story about Netscape no longer being in the web browser business. I said Yes and he said that is probably why Netscape has ceased the secnews.netscape.com service. What are we supposed to do for good end user support for Netscape Communicator 4.x support? Contacting Netscape Communications http://home.netscape.com/company/contacts/index.html?cp=cmp The news server still works on port 119. They should make netscape.communicator and the netscape.netscape6.* groups available for that port as well. Holger They were specifically asked not to. The news admins, however, are not answering pages and fail to reply to email. I think one may be on sabatical but there should be coverage. I suspect either a DNS screwup or apathy. History says the latter is fairly likely but the former is possible. The latter sounds logical, yes. Most ISPs use the oldest machines they have to set up a news server, and then it stands in the corner. When I was asked to set up a news server for the company I work for they gave me a Pentium/133mhz with 64mb and a 2 gig hard drive. If it breaks, and I'm on vacation it won't be fixed until I'm back. Maybe same thing happened at Netscape. Let's hope :) Holger well it can't be completely down... I'm reading this via secnews.netscape.com You must have got it when they were preforming a test. because I tried just a few minutes ago and received messge that the server was not accepting messages as per a previous .jpg image I sent further back in this thread. secnews.netscape.com:119 is up and active/accessible .. :563 is down due to cert renewal difficulties. There, no more rumor milling now !! :-) -- Jay Garcia - Netscape Champion Novell MCNE-5/CNI UFAQ - http://www.UFAQ.org Post To Group ONLY, No Email Please!! This moring was able to receive secnews.netscape.com groups on on port 583. So eveidently they have got their certificate problems fixed. -- -- Phillip M. Jones, CET |MEMBER:VPEA (LIFE) ETA-I, NESDA,ISCET, Sterling 616 Liberty Street|Who's Who. PHONE:540-632-5045, FAX:540-632-0868 Martinsville Va 24112-1809|[EMAIL PROTECTED], ICQ11269732, AIM pjonescet -- If it's fixed, don't break it! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bugzilla
There is a note on bugzilla saying: Bugzilla will be unavailable on Tuesday, June 12 for up to two hours starting at 6pm for a system upgrade But there's no mention of what timezone this 6pm refers to. I'm assuming that this is in Pacific Time, but since Mozilla has contributors from all over the world, it would be polite to make this explicit. /mini-rant Stuart.
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Re: DIV: Re: General Question
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: WOW We have a genious in our midst! Anyone that can understand Unix and Windows. Plus experince the joy of using Mac as well. Must be up there with Einstein!! The only part I'm missing is the joy of the MacOS part. I can use it, and can understand some of it's advantages over most x86 operating systems, I just don't ENJOY using it. I feel too confined and protected in it. As I've said though, Mac OS X changes all that. I LIKE Mac OS X. -- jesus X [ Booze-fueled paragon of pointless cruelty and wanton sadism. ] email [ jesusx @ who.net ] web [ http://burntelectrons.com ] [ Updated April 29, 2001 ] tag [ The Universe: It's everywhere you want to be. ] warning [ All your base are belong to us. ]
Re: Another suggestion.
Yes I save copies of all correspondence on newsgroups and email That I have. I have an electronics newsgroup (that's sent in email format). I save everyone of those messages and then compress them in groups of two hundred in .sit format. Then when i get a group of 10 or more of the sit files I then move them to zip 250 cartridges for backup. Communicator picks up the titles of the messages automatically (at least the mac version does) Mozilla doesn't do that it forces you to remember the title and spell everything correctly. when I save such items I just scan read them and save them. If I save several hundred in a day that takes a long time. As for sending original response I thought I sent it to list (at least I read it in the list). If it was sent to you in error my appologies. I am sending a copy of this to you and the newsgroup this time. It's deliberate this time. Alex Usero wrote: Ok Phillip, I didn't understand your message, sorry. What you mean is when you want to save a message, but I don't understand what you say. You mean that you want to save it on disk? You sent me the message directly to me, if you want to add another suggestion, please adress it to the mailing list. Have a nice day! Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: I was not criticizing your suggestion. I was only adding another suggestion as well. Alex Usero wrote: Hello, I refer when you are in the browser, not in the mail programme. Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: What I would to see is when you do a save as for an email is that it uses the same action as in Communicator. automatically pickup the title of the email or news message from the header information. Mozilla, you have to type in the title. Alex Usero wrote: Hello, I have another suggestion to Mozilla ... when you select Save as or Save Image, it appears a Save File dialog box with the Look in: and the .. buttons. I consider that a Create a new Directory would be useful, and another button that points to your Home directory (now it remembers the last directory you used to save). This option could be set up in the Preferences dialog box or be the home directory from your user. I've detected a minor bug (while I'm writing this message :), when you select Save as and you don't press the ok or cancel button Mozilla waits for you (not only the browser, the mail too.. ) Bye -- -- Phillip M. Jones, CET |MEMBER:VPEA (LIFE) ETA-I, NESDA,ISCET, Sterling 616 Liberty Street|Who's Who. PHONE:540-632-5045, FAX:540-632-0868 Martinsville Va 24112-1809|[EMAIL PROTECTED], ICQ11269732, AIM pjonescet -- If it's fixed, don't break it! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DIV: Re: General Question
jesus X wrote: Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: WOW We have a genious in our midst! Anyone that can understand Unix and Windows. Plus experince the joy of using Mac as well. Must be up there with Einstein!! The only part I'm missing is the joy of the MacOS part. I can use it, and can understand some of it's advantages over most x86 operating systems, I just don't ENJOY using it. I feel too confined and protected in it. As I've said though, Mac OS X changes all that. I LIKE Mac OS X. -- jesus X [ Booze-fueled paragon of pointless cruelty and wanton sadism. ] email [ jesusx @ who.net ] web [ http://burntelectrons.com ] [ Updated April 29, 2001 ] tag [ The Universe: It's everywhere you want to be. ] warning [ All your base are belong to us. ] That's one of the things I've liked the Mac system up until OS-X is that you can't wipe out all the contents of the hard drive you are working on by accident. It has to be a deliberate act. You must boot either from system CD or another Hard Drive to do so. On windows use of the Init C: command and poof! all the contents is unceremoniously wiped off the face of the startup up drive. On Unix its my understanding you have to login is root first before you can do the same thing. Although I have 18 years experience on Computers PC's and Mac's. I am still human and could accidently do something wrong. So I like a system that attempts to save me from myself. When I first started out I was uncomfortable mucking around in programing in DOS even creating autoexec.bat and config.sys files. Despite my ablities in Electronics and Hardware repair. I always felt inadaquate trying frograming even in the mildest of Basic. I always felt that people that had those abilities were more of the MIT types. -- -- Phillip M. Jones, CET |MEMBER:VPEA (LIFE) ETA-I, NESDA,ISCET, Sterling 616 Liberty Street|Who's Who. PHONE:540-632-5045, FAX:540-632-0868 Martinsville Va 24112-1809|[EMAIL PROTECTED], ICQ11269732, AIM pjonescet -- If it's fixed, don't break it! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Netscape has pulled secnews.netscape.com service
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: Jay Garcia wrote: Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: DeMoN_LaG wrote: Holger Metzger wrote: On 6/10/01 6:20 PM, Chuck Simmons wrote: Holger Metzger wrote: On 6/10/01 4:19 PM, Mark wrote: After calling Netscape Communications on Friday evening when Netscape's secured news servers (secnews.netscape.com, port 563) when it become inaccessible, John from Netscape Communications informed me that Netscape is no longer interested in continuing the news server service and has pulled the service. He asked me if I read the recent news story about Netscape no longer being in the web browser business. I said Yes and he said that is probably why Netscape has ceased the secnews.netscape.com service. What are we supposed to do for good end user support for Netscape Communicator 4.x support? Contacting Netscape Communications http://home.netscape.com/company/contacts/index.html?cp=cmp The news server still works on port 119. They should make netscape.communicator and the netscape.netscape6.* groups available for that port as well. Holger They were specifically asked not to. The news admins, however, are not answering pages and fail to reply to email. I think one may be on sabatical but there should be coverage. I suspect either a DNS screwup or apathy. History says the latter is fairly likely but the former is possible. The latter sounds logical, yes. Most ISPs use the oldest machines they have to set up a news server, and then it stands in the corner. When I was asked to set up a news server for the company I work for they gave me a Pentium/133mhz with 64mb and a 2 gig hard drive. If it breaks, and I'm on vacation it won't be fixed until I'm back. Maybe same thing happened at Netscape. Let's hope :) Holger well it can't be completely down... I'm reading this via secnews.netscape.com You must have got it when they were preforming a test. because I tried just a few minutes ago and received messge that the server was not accepting messages as per a previous .jpg image I sent further back in this thread. secnews.netscape.com:119 is up and active/accessible .. :563 is down due to cert renewal difficulties. There, no more rumor milling now !! :-) -- Jay Garcia - Netscape Champion Novell MCNE-5/CNI UFAQ - http://www.UFAQ.org Post To Group ONLY, No Email Please!! This moring was able to receive secnews.netscape.com groups on on port 583. So eveidently they have got their certificate problems fixed. Sorry about that the old arthritis is kicking up should be port 563 not 583. -- -- Phillip M. Jones, CET |MEMBER:VPEA (LIFE) ETA-I, NESDA,ISCET, Sterling 616 Liberty Street|Who's Who. PHONE:540-632-5045, FAX:540-632-0868 Martinsville Va 24112-1809|[EMAIL PROTECTED], ICQ11269732, AIM pjonescet -- If it's fixed, don't break it! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Netscape has pulled secnews.netscape.com service
Christian Mattar wrote: Hi! Jay Garcia wrote: Christian Mattar wrote: Hi! It seems secnews is back on its feet, even on the secure port. Christian And not only that, we're still in the Browser business .. fancy that !! :o) It gets better and better - Imagine: Netscape is != Mozilla, although they share some registry keys! Can things get even more implausible? :-P Christian I think folks are a tad confused. Communicator and Mozilla/6.x are totally unrelated. Mozilla is open source and 6.xx is a branded version of Mozilla -- Jay Garcia - Netscape Champion Novell MCNE-5/CNI UFAQ - http://www.UFAQ.org Post To Group ONLY, No Email Please!!
Re: Bugzilla
Stuart Ballard wrote: There is a note on bugzilla saying: Bugzilla will be unavailable on Tuesday, June 12 for up to two hours starting at 6pm for a system upgrade But there's no mention of what timezone this 6pm refers to. I'm assuming that this is in Pacific Time, but since Mozilla has contributors from all over the world, it would be polite to make this explicit. /mini-rant Stuart. The 6pm referred to is PST crosspost cancelled -- Jay Garcia - Netscape Champion Novell MCNE-5/CNI UFAQ - http://www.UFAQ.org Post To Group ONLY, No Email Please!!
Re: Netscape 6.1 instead of 6.5?
jesus X wrote: JTK wrote: Carlfish wrote: HTH, HAND, *plonk* Anyway, didn't you *plonk* me already Charlie? When people reply to you, that's a good sign you haven't been plonked yet. Well you'd think that, but many people seem to have a habit of saying they've *plonk*ed me, and yet still somehow manage to read and respond to my posts. -- jesus X [ Booze-fueled paragon of pointless cruelty and wanton sadism. ] email [ jesusx @ who.net ] web [ http://burntelectrons.com ] [ Updated April 29, 2001 ] tag [ The Universe: It's everywhere you want to be. ] warning [ All your base are belong to us. ]
Re: Netscape 6.1 instead of 6.5?
Gavin Long wrote: jesus X wrote JTK wrote: Carlfish wrote: HTH, HAND, *plonk* Anyway, didn't you *plonk* me already Charlie? When people reply to you, that's a good sign you haven't been plonked yet. This particular troll has changed his (faked) e-mail address more than once, presumably _because_ he noticed that no-one was replying. Ah, no Gavin, I've posted from a grand total of two separate accounts. I will continue to do so, so your plonking will just have to take that into account. Sorry. I *plonked* with as much prejudice as this crappy MS news client would allow me, but I suspect that many others just blocked the moving target. Well no wonder! You're for some strange reason using a *Microsoft* news client! WHY ARE YOU NOT USING MOZILLA TO READ NEWS, GAVIN? I'M SURE IT HAS A *MUCH* BETTER PLONKING MECHANISM! The didn't you plonk me already was presumably a childish nose-thumbing. Kinda like your post here Gav? Or more like posting what games your playing and books your reading and assuming anyone cares? Come on. -- gav Playing: TFC1.5; Tachyon: The Fringe; Now reading: Fairyland, Paul J McAuley; Just read: Cosmonaut Keep, Ken MacLeod; Just Read: To Hold Infinity, John Meaney; Thief Of Time, Terry Pratchett;
Re: [Offtopic] Re: Netscape 6.1 instead of 6.5?
Carlfish wrote: On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:19:17 +0100, Gavin Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] somehow managed to type: I *plonked* with as much prejudice as this crappy MS news client would allow me, but I suspect that many others just blocked the moving target. When someone finds me a GUI client that does even half the things slrn does, I'll be amazed, So why don't we just take the slrn code and add it to Mozilla! Oh wait, then AOL couldn't use it, since it's GPLed.
Re: Netscape 6.1 instead of 6.5?
How pathetic. Get a life, Junior. It is evident you have nothing productive to contribute to the discussion, and have not for some time. Yeah, I'm plonking you too now, as you're dreadfully boring. (Yes, I use Agent for news, and Pegasus for mail. I use Mozilla only for browsing, because I prefer separate components for these functions.) On or about Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:49:13 -0500, JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] allegedly wrote: Gavin Long wrote: jesus X wrote JTK wrote: Carlfish wrote: HTH, HAND, *plonk* Anyway, didn't you *plonk* me already Charlie? When people reply to you, that's a good sign you haven't been plonked yet. This particular troll has changed his (faked) e-mail address more than once, presumably _because_ he noticed that no-one was replying. Ah, no Gavin, I've posted from a grand total of two separate accounts. I will continue to do so, so your plonking will just have to take that into account. Sorry. I *plonked* with as much prejudice as this crappy MS news client would allow me, but I suspect that many others just blocked the moving target. Well no wonder! You're for some strange reason using a *Microsoft* news client! WHY ARE YOU NOT USING MOZILLA TO READ NEWS, GAVIN? I'M SURE IT HAS A *MUCH* BETTER PLONKING MECHANISM! The didn't you plonk me already was presumably a childish nose-thumbing. Kinda like your post here Gav? Or more like posting what games your playing and books your reading and assuming anyone cares? Come on. -- gav Playing: TFC1.5; Tachyon: The Fringe; Now reading: Fairyland, Paul J McAuley; Just read: Cosmonaut Keep, Ken MacLeod; Just Read: To Hold Infinity, John Meaney; Thief Of Time, Terry Pratchett; -- Mike Koenecke to reply, change nowhere to home
Re: DIV: Re: General Question
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: jesus X wrote: Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: WOW We have a genious in our midst! Anyone that can understand Unix and Windows. Plus experince the joy of using Mac as well. Must be up there with Einstein!! The only part I'm missing is the joy of the MacOS part. I can use it, and can understand some of it's advantages over most x86 operating systems, I just don't ENJOY using it. I feel too confined and protected in it. As I've said though, Mac OS X changes all that. I LIKE Mac OS X. -- jesus X [ Booze-fueled paragon of pointless cruelty and wanton sadism. ] email [ jesusx @ who.net ] web [ http://burntelectrons.com ] [ Updated April 29, 2001 ] tag [ The Universe: It's everywhere you want to be. ] warning [ All your base are belong to us. ] That's one of the things I've liked the Mac system up until OS-X is that you can't wipe out all the contents of the hard drive you are working on by accident. It has to be a deliberate act. OS X lets you wipe out your root drive accidentally? Wowzers. You must boot either from system CD or another Hard Drive to do so. On windows use of the Init C: command and poof! all the contents is unceremoniously wiped off the face of the startup up drive. AFAIK, and IK quite a bit, there is no Init command on Windows. You're probably thinking of format or fdisk or something, both of which go to great pains to make sure you really want to do what you say you want to do. And on NT/2000, you'll get nowhere trying to do so from anything other than an admin acct. And for the record, I've never once accidentally wiped out the contents of any drive, root or otherwise, on any Windows system. I know of nobody who's done so. On Unix its my understanding you have to login is root first before you can do the same thing. Although I have 18 years experience on Computers PC's and Mac's. I am still human and could accidently do something wrong. So I like a system that attempts to save me from myself. So after you've accidentally brought up a command.com and accidentally typed format c:, you then accidentally answer yes to the question Do you really want to format your root partition?? I think you'd better stay away from computers altogether Phil. When I first started out I was uncomfortable mucking around in programing in DOS even creating autoexec.bat and config.sys files. Despite my ablities in Electronics and Hardware repair. I always felt inadaquate trying frograming even in the mildest of Basic. I always felt that people that had those abilities were more of the MIT types. Not sure what any of that has to do with an illogical love of the Mac. -- -- Phillip M. Jones, CET |MEMBER:VPEA (LIFE) ETA-I, NESDA,ISCET, Sterling 616 Liberty Street|Who's Who. PHONE:540-632-5045, FAX:540-632-0868 Martinsville Va 24112-1809|[EMAIL PROTECTED], ICQ11269732, AIM pjonescet -- If it's fixed, don't break it! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to move the profile folder to another drive???
by the Cache directory. Take a look at http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=78480 GTG Tom wrote We have a network folder where these things need to go... So, what does one do to MOVE the Mozilla profile folder over to another drive and still retain all your settings? Or is there a way I can reinstall it (or re-run the Netscape converter) and have Mozilla ask me where I want to put the folder? Thanks in advance. Tom
Re: General Question
JTK wrote: snip NOBODY uses Win9x because they like it! They use it only because they have no other realistic option, and nobody seems to be willing to give them one. I'm nobody. I like Windows 98 more than NT, 2K or XP. I have them all running, along with Mac OS 8.5, 9.1 and X, and RedHat 6.1 (I'll have 7.1 rsn). I like all of them. They all have strong points. They all have weak points. --Asa
loader.exe
as far as I know, there would be a loader.exe to preload mozilla on windows startup. This would increase startup-time dramatically. Is this only distributed in Mozilla 0.9.1 because I only dowloaden Nigthly's (latest is 2001060704) and I cana't find it. Can't find anything else on the release notes. Please inform me. Greetings, Jeroen Roeterd
Re: Netscape 6.1 instead of 6.5?
JTK wrote: jesus X wrote: When people reply to you, that's a good sign you haven't been plonked yet. Well you'd think that, but many people seem to have a habit of saying they've *plonk*ed me, and yet still somehow manage to read and respond to my posts. Like I said: When people reply to you, that's a good sign you haven't been plonked yet. -- jesus X [ Booze-fueled paragon of pointless cruelty and wanton sadism. ] email [ jesusx @ who.net ] web [ http://burntelectrons.com ] [ Updated April 29, 2001 ] tag [ The Universe: It's everywhere you want to be. ] warning [ All your base are belong to us. ]
Re: loader.exe
Jeroen Roeterd wrote: as far as I know, there would be a loader.exe to preload mozilla on windows startup. This would increase startup-time dramatically. Is this only distributed in Mozilla 0.9.1 because I only dowloaden Nigthly's (latest is 2001060704) and I cana't find it. Can't find anything else on the release notes. Please inform me. Run: mozilla.exe -turbo This will load mozilla into ram. Then when you run: mozilla.exe it will load instantanously as everything it needs is already in ram. All you need to do is add an icon for mozilla -turbo in your startup folder, and place an icon for mozilla on your desktop and you're set.
Re: DIV: Re: General Question
On 12 Jun 2001, Carlfish wrote: (And if you haven't then sat through the story of how they rescued the whole system without requiring a restore, through the use of only emacs, a pocket-knife and a roll of duct-tape, then you're a luckier man than I) only emacs ?! -- Ian Hickson )\ _. - ._.) fL Netscape, Standards Compliance QA /. `- ' ( `--' +1 650 937 6593`- , ) - ) \ irc.mozilla.org:Hixie _ (.' \) (.' -' __
Re: Identify browser as Internet Exploder
powerballz wrote: Is there any way to fake your browser version like you can in Opera? The problem with doing this though is that webmasters will be getting skewed demographics and continue to force non-standard MS-HTML on us. But on the other hand, if the company is deliberately denying non-MS browsers because of illegal contractual obligations either implied or expressed with M$FT, then there is little we can do by either complying or LYING about our browser. I'd rather lie than be assimlated with all the sheep, how about you? user_pref(general.useragent.override, Mozilla/9.0 (some OS of your choice)); Put that in your user.js file in your profile (create it if its not present) and edit the agent string as whatever you like, but it takes a restart of the browser for it to take affect. -- Alex:3)~~ http://www.gerbilbox.com/newzilla/
Re: DIV: Re: General Question
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: That's one of the things I've liked the Mac system up until OS-X is that you can't wipe out all the contents of the hard drive you are working on by accident. It has to be a deliberate act. Same in OS X. there's not way to do it by accident, unless you're a complete freaking idiot. GW Bush might be able to do it, but I've yet to see someone do it by accident. On windows use of the Init C: command and poof! all the contents is unceremoniously wiped off the face of the startup up drive. Nope. It's Format c: and even then it asks for confirmation. And even then you can quit without damage. Until it gets to 99%, nothing is actually written to the drive. Hit Ctrl-C, Ctrl-Break, Ctrl-Alt-Del, the reset or power buttons and you're safe. And that's only from a command prompt. Inside the GUI itself, right click on the drive, select format, and it'll tell you that it can't do that, and not let you continue. Even if it did, you'd STILL have to click another button confirming you're choice. So I like a system that attempts to save me from myself. The rest of us hate being treated like idiots. Despite my ablities in Electronics and Hardware repair. I always felt inadaquate trying frograming even in the mildest of Basic. I always felt that people that had those abilities were more of the MIT types. Phil, I know 6 years old who can edit an autoexec.bat file with the greatest of comforts. -- jesus X [ Booze-fueled paragon of pointless cruelty and wanton sadism. ] email [ jesusx @ who.net ] web [ http://burntelectrons.com ] [ Updated April 29, 2001 ] tag [ The Universe: It's everywhere you want to be. ] warning [ All your base are belong to us. ]
Re: Netscape 6.1 instead of 6.5?
Henrik Lynggaard wrote: So you need to sniff to allow for the bug ridden today, and the pleasent future since the customer wont pay you a second time 1/2 year after to recode the thing for ns 6.5. If they want to pay me for the extra work of coding poorly, fine. Otherwise I code it so that it looks good in the majority of browsers without butt-ugly code. I've never used LAYERs for a client site, because even in NS4 they were deprecated. I've never used document.all (even though it's handy) but found other more compatible means. Anything I've written will look great in NS6.5, and IE6, as well as NS4.5 and higher and IE4 and higher. No ugly hacks needed. -- jesus X [ Booze-fueled paragon of pointless cruelty and wanton sadism. ] email [ jesusx @ who.net ] web [ http://burntelectrons.com ] [ Updated April 29, 2001 ] tag [ The Universe: It's everywhere you want to be. ] warning [ All your base are belong to us. ]
Re: Mozilla 0.9.1 Cookies
Sören Kress wrote: Hi, I upgraded my mozilla to 0.9.1 (running on linux). Now I have problems on some pages with cookies. Specifically I have problems with a simple JSP page that displays all HTTP header fields. After reloading this page I used to see a cookie. This is not the case with mozilla 0.9.1. The servlet engine is Tomcat 3.2. Hi, I have also a problem with Tomcat 3.2, cookies and Mozilla 0.9.1, the mozilla browser is the only browser not working with the session cookie set by my application. It looks like timeout is reached immediatly ! I will investigate more and may be I encounter the same problem. Did you add a bug report in bugzilla for this problem ? David. Sören