Re: utf-8 display problem index vs. pager
Hi! On Mon, Dez 17, 2001 at 08:37:24 +0100, Cristian wrote Accepts UTF-8 only if you set $LC_ALL correctly. My point was that all the programs I listed worked fine after I just set $LANG. vim works fine here. If I set LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 the other variables get the same value as well. Normaly I set LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 and LC_CTYPE=ja_JP.UTF-8 to get a working XIM. Hm, two problems exist until now: German gpg messages aren't display correctly, Is this problem generally known? If not, please provide details. Your mail (like others): [-- PGP-Ausgabe folgt (aktuelle Zeit: Die 18 Dez 2001 09:39:19 CET) --] gpg: Unterschrift vom Mon 17 Dez 2001 20:37:24 CET, RSA Schl\374ssel ID A1938DAD gpg: Schl\374ssel A1938DAD von wwwkeys.de.pgp.net wird angefordert ... gpg: Schl\374ssel ist beim Schl\374sselserver nicht erh\344ltlich: eof gpg: Unterschrift kann nicht gepr\374ft werden: \326ffentlicher Schl\374ssel nicht gefunden [-- Ende der PGP-Ausgabe --] I think, it is gnupg's fault for not being utf8-usable. But .gnupg/options contains the line charset utf-8. Shade and sweet water! Stephan PS: How do you call w3m to display html mails? -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | WWW: http://fsing.fs.uni-sb.de/~stse/| | PGP Public Keys: http://fsing.fs.uni-sb.de/~stse/pgp.html | msg21704/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: save all outgoing messages to a common folder - implemented
According to Rob 'Feztaa' Park on Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 05:29:52PM -0700: On Tue, Dec 18, 2001 at 12:28:42AM +0100, Eric Smith (dis)graced my inbox with: so that I may look in one place to check all the outgoing mail regardless of where is is fcc'ed? a simple (mutt) solution? my_hdr Bcc: Your Name Here [EMAIL PROTECTED] For those wishing to implement this - I did it this way .muttrc: my_hdr Bcc: .outgoing [EMAIL PROTECTED] my_hdr X-outgoing: save # see header to this email ;) .procmailrc: :0 c * ^X-outgoing: save .outgoing saves copy of all mail sent _with mutt_ to the.outgoing folder. Better (for me), than procmail matching on any From header. -- Eric Smith
Re: how to display messages on the last line
Hi René, hi mutt users, * René Clerc [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Son 16 Dez 2001 23:49:44 GMT]: * Gregor Zattler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [16-12-2001 22:30]: | Hi mutt users, | | is there a way to display a message on the last line (below the status | bar if status_on_top=no)? | | I would like to display a message when a special hook gets triggered. Please give some more information what it is exactly what you want. I, for instance, have no idea whatsoever. Sorry for my english... I use different personalities or profiles: different email adresses, pgp-keys, attributions and the like. To switch these i source different (pro)files. I switch using macros, message hooks folder hooks and send hooks. Either way when sourcing a profile i would like to display a message which informs me which omne is the current personality. I. e.: Beeing John User or: formal attribution I would like to see this on the last line of the screen where mutt displays its messages. Another subcriber of this list sent me a mutt-echo-lm.patch written by Lorenzo Martignoni. I didn't try it, but soon i will. Ciao, Gregor
process substitution (was: Re: Searching big gobs of e-mail)
Hi Peter, hi mutt users, * Peter Poeml [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mon 10 Dez 2001 20:04:17 GMT]: [...] As mentioned before, grepmail can jump in because mutt works on single mail boxes. Now I was curious and figured out the command for your real example: mutt -f (grepmail -huqd between 2001-09-01 and 2001-10-01 \ ^From.*frob@(foo|bar).net mbox1 mbox2 mbox3) This seems cool but when i gave it a (much more simppler) try: mutt -f (grepmail -h cco@ *) i see mutt reading messages from /dev/fd/63, a few messages from grepmaiol and then: the mutt index which first looks fine but when I hit enter to read a message the pager was empty... also ae (ls) emacs (ls) jed (ls) did not work. Any hints? Ciao, Gregor P.S.: The problem the thread was involved with (searching on multiple mailboxes) can be easily solved with a shell script called grepm. It simply redirects grepmails output in a temorary file, starts mutt with this and deletes the temorary file when mutt is exited.
Re: save all outgoing messages to Fcc _and_ =sent
On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 08:17:11PM -0500, David T-G wrote: Eric -- ...and then Eric Smith said... % % so that I may look in one place to check all the outgoing mail % regardless of where is is fcc'ed? % % a simple (mutt) solution? Why not just set sent=+sentmail or such? Don't use the fcc function (or hook it to the same place) since you want it all there. If you want it together but yet separate, perhaps you could use something like fcc-hook . =D.sent/%_%O to save it in the original file name but under the D.sent directory under your $MAIL dir... (Oh, yeah -- the %_ ensures that the filename will be lower case.) Is it possible to fcc-hook to a pipe as well? Playing around and I don't want to resort to bcc and maildrop/procmail. /magnus
Re: save all outgoing messages to a common folder - implemented
Eric -- ...and then Eric Smith said... % % According to Rob 'Feztaa' Park on Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 05:29:52PM -0700: % On Tue, Dec 18, 2001 at 12:28:42AM +0100, Eric Smith (dis)graced my inbox with: % so that I may look in one place to check all the outgoing mail % regardless of where is is fcc'ed? ... I must apologize for spacing out there; I apparently didn't pay any attention to the Subject: line and failed to note that you wanted to save two copies of the outgoing email. % % For those wishing to implement this - % I did it this way % % .muttrc: % my_hdr Bcc: .outgoing [EMAIL PROTECTED] % my_hdr X-outgoing: save # see header to this email ;) % % .procmailrc: % :0 c % * ^X-outgoing: save % .outgoing % % saves copy of all mail sent _with mutt_ to the.outgoing % folder. Better (for me), than procmail matching on any From % header. That seems pretty elegant, actually; not a bad idea. FWIW, this has come up on the list a few times before and the closest we got (with existing functionality) was to wrap sendmail and save the copy there in order to trap the bcc: headers in both (or as many as you want!) copies. % % -- % Eric Smith Maybe I should just be quiet now :-) :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg21709/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: save all outgoing messages to Fcc _and_ =sent
Magnus -- ...and then Magnus Bodin said... % % Is it possible to fcc-hook to a pipe as well? Not at the moment, though that was one of the possible solutions the last time this came up on the list. We've seen it a few times. Now, to a *named* pipe might be possible, since that just looks like a file, but that has its own problems... % % Playing around and I don't want to resort to bcc and maildrop/procmail. You could always try writing a patch; I imagine some folks might find that easier and more desirable than working with procmail ;-) % % /magnus :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg21710/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: save all outgoing messages to Fcc _and_ =sent
Thorsten -- ...and then Thorsten Haude said... % % Hi, Hello! % % * David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-12-18 02:17]: % (Oh, yeah -- the %_ ensures that the filename will be lower case.) % Huh? It's a patch: ... Feature patch: %_ 0.94.12 by O'Shaughnessy Evans ... Quite nice, actually, and for some reason very necessary when working with %O. Go figure. % % Thorsten % -- % Das Briefgeheimnis sowie das Post- und Fernmeldegeheimnis sind unverletzlich. % - Grundgesetz, Artikel 10, Abs. 1 :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg21711/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
sending mails problem
hi i am trying to configure my mutt...i am able to receive my mails but when i send mails, i dont get the mails. do i hacve to configure my sendmail? if yes what shud i do? Sanjay
Re: process substitution (was: Re: Searching big gobs of e-mail)
Hello searchers in Mutt,
On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 07:12:32PM +0100, Gregor Zattler wrote:
mutt -f (grepmail -h cco@ *)
i see mutt reading messages from /dev/fd/63, a few messages from
grepmaiol and then:
the mutt index which first looks fine but when I hit enter to read a
message the pager was empty...
Oops. I get the same result. Thinking about it, this is not
surprising. The process substitution construct creates a pipe to
avoid temporary files. If you want to access a message listed in the
index, you need random access to the mail box, which is something a
pipe does not give you.
So it's better to say something like eg,
grepmail -hm cco@ * /tmp/grpfldr ; mutt -f /tmp/grpfldr ; rm /tmp/grpfldr
And this is just what grepm does. People not using mbox format will
have to use mboxgrep (mentioned earlier in this thread).
ae (ls)
emacs (ls)
jed (ls)
Emacs cannot read from a pipe (at least not from the command line).
By the way: The pro searcher will create an index (in the sense of a
hash table) for his mail -- like real search engines and databases do.
Now I remember a tool called ``Managing Gigabytes'' which is often
used for searching in really big gobs of mail. You can find it there:
http://www.cs.mu.oz.au/mg/
Cheers,
Cristian
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Re: Quoting when replying
Rob, et al -- ...and then Rob 'Feztaa' Park said... % % On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 09:39:29AM -0500, David T-G (dis)graced my inbox with: % % Hi, % % Hello! % % 'sup? Still not much. Am I still making sense? :-) % % % As others have noticed, uniqueness is a Bad Thing in today's email % % environment. % % Admitted -- but I also see room for flexibility and configuration % choices. I mean, c'mon, LookOut! will even handle %_ gracefully (well, % as gracefully as it can handle anything)! % % The only thing LookOut! handles gracefully is virus propagation :) Heh. Yeah, there's graceful and then there's graceful. It's a shame that the more graceful of the two is the one that causes more problems! Hmmm... That sounds a little ambiguous... I meant the one that spews more garbage onto the 'net... No, wait; that could be taken two ways, too... Oh, never mind :-) % % % quoting level. (It was also made easier by compulsory clear names.) % % This was very useful, since you could see with one look who wrote the % % quote (not who quoted it). It was color-coded of course. Nobody had % % Sure. That sounds like Rob's argument, though. % % Just you wait! Soon, we'll all be using our unique quoting characters! % Everybody will have a different one!! MWAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!! Hey, it's a good thing I'm using an MUA with such a powerful quote recognition system, eh? % % ;D *grin* % % % any problems, because everyone either used Crosspoint or started using % % it very soon, so it was accepted standard. % % Great! I predict the same thing with %_ and mutt. I look forward to the % time when 80% of everyone else will use mutt right along with us -- and % perhaps find the world a better place as well. % % I don't see that happening. Given most people's utter dependence on GUIs % (just look at Macs), I don't think mutt will ever get 80% of the MUA Heh. % market share. It may get to be 80% of _*nix_ users MUA of choice, but % unless *nix (Linux, BSD, whatever) gets really mainstream, it won't % happen. Hey, he said it happenned with Crosspoint, and I'd never heard of it until we traded some email recently. If something of which I've never heard can do that, surely something of which I have might have the same shot! % % % Your mails are as ineffective as outlooked mails with the answer % % following the questions. % % Oooh, that was way harsh. % % I didn't like that comment, either. It's a quote string! Get over it! I refuse to ;-) % % Fair enough. There are probably a lot of variables that you don't % need, then. Maybe I should petition to get % added to the default list % so that you will be able to read my mail. % % I'd sign that petition ;) Fine by me... % % -- % Rob 'Feztaa' Park % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % -- % The Windows NT workstations locked up every 2.58 minutes... The Linux % workstations [which replaced them] haven't had a problem. % -- Randy Kessell, SBC Communications Inc. :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg21714/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Quoting when replying
Thomas, et al -- ...and then Thomas Hurst said... % % * Rob 'Feztaa' Park ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: % % On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 09:39:29AM -0500, David T-G (dis)graced my % inbox with: % % Great! I predict the same thing with %_ and mutt. I look forward % to the time when 80% of everyone else will use mutt right along with % us -- and perhaps find the world a better place as well. % % I don't see that happening. Given most people's utter dependence on % GUIs (just look at Macs), I don't think mutt will ever get 80% of the % MUA market share. It may get to be 80% of _*nix_ users MUA of choice, % but unless *nix (Linux, BSD, whatever) gets really mainstream, it % won't happen. % % With Evolution? No way. The best we can hope (and push) for is to have % some good standards set out and implimented. Yeah, I need to look into Evolution; some folks don't like text and keyboards, and I keep hearing good things about that. % % Personally I'm looking to get Mail-Followup-To supported in Microdot-II, % and probably Yam (both Amiga clients). Oh :-) % % I didn't like that comment, either. It's a quote string! Get over it! % % I just hit F2 and they magically turn into ' ' :) Hey, if it works for you, ... :-) % % Fair enough. There are probably a lot of variables that you don't % need, then. Maybe I should petition to get % added to the default % list so that you will be able to read my mail. % % I'd sign that petition ;) % % Let's just get it set to a constant so evil users can't change it. Oh, % and close source the part of the code containing it, and add anti-pirate % code to it. Anti-pirate code never works. We should make everyone buy a dongle to ensure compliance. % % -- % Thomas 'Freaky' Hurst - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.aagh.net/ :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg21715/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: save all outgoing messages to a common folder - implemented
I must apologize for spacing out there; I apparently didn't pay any attention to the Subject: line and failed to note that you wanted to save two copies of the outgoing email. Don't worry I figured ... % % For those wishing to implement this - % I did it this way % % .muttrc: % my_hdr Bcc: .outgoing [EMAIL PROTECTED] % my_hdr X-outgoing: save # see header to this email ;) % % .procmailrc: % :0 c % * ^X-outgoing: save % .outgoing % % saves copy of all mail sent _with mutt_ to the.outgoing % folder. Better (for me), than procmail matching on any From % header. That seems pretty elegant, actually; not a bad idea. FWIW, this has come up on the list a few times before and the closest we got (with existing functionality) was to wrap sendmail and save the copy there in order to trap the bcc: headers in both (or as many as you want!) copies. Yeah I brought up a previous thread re Fcc-ing to all recipients of a mail -another thing on my wishlist and very important in userland. I do not touch sendmail.cf and am in no mood to start really. Yeah the solution that is put together above works but its wasteful: You have to send the mail (with Bcc) and fire sendmail and procmail or whatever. When you (I anyway) edit the outgoing, you have two extra - annoying - headers to stare at. - much better to do all this type of functionality without firing anything but your current mutt instance which just has to write to your local folders. I really believe that this type of functionality could easily - I aint a C programmer :( - be implemented in mutt itself BTW, people can drop the 'c' in the ':0 c' above (I had it in there cause I was testing from myself to myself. Maybe I should just be quiet now :-) Not at all. -- Eric
Re: sending mails problem
Sanjay -- ...and then Sanjay Acharya said... % % hi i am trying to configure my mutt...i am able to receive my mails but Welcome! % when i send mails, i dont get the mails. do i hacve to configure my % sendmail? if yes what shud i do? Yep; mutt does not talk directly to remote mail systems, since that is the job of your local MTA (Mail Transport Agent -- mutt is an MUA, or Mail User Agent). There are a number of simple MTAs out there, as well as some HOWTO guides. You might check the mutt-users archives for mutt-newbie mutt mail howto ssmtp to get started. % % Sanjay :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg21717/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
hi
hi i am trying to configure my mutt...i am able to receive my mails but when i send mails, i dont get the mails. do i hacve to configure my sendmail? if yes what shud i do? Sanjay __ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com
Re: save all outgoing messages to a common folder - implemented
Eric, et al -- ...and then Eric Smith said... % % I must apologize for spacing out there; I apparently didn't pay any % attention to the Subject: line and failed to note that you wanted to save % two copies of the outgoing email. % Don't worry I figured ... *grin* % % For those wishing to implement this - % % I did it this way ... % % saves copy of all mail sent _with mutt_ to the.outgoing % % folder. Better (for me), than procmail matching on any From % % header. % % That seems pretty elegant, actually; not a bad idea. FWIW, this has come % up on the list a few times before and the closest we got (with existing % functionality) was to wrap sendmail and save the copy there in order to % trap the bcc: headers in both (or as many as you want!) copies. % % Yeah I brought up a previous thread re Fcc-ing to all recipients % of a mail -another thing on my wishlist and very important in % userland. Yeah. % % I do not touch sendmail.cf and am in no mood to start really. I don't blame you! :-) % % Yeah the solution that is put together above works but % its wasteful: % You have to send the mail (with Bcc) and fire sendmail and % procmail or whatever. Agreed. % When you (I anyway) edit the outgoing, you have two extra - % annoying - headers to stare at. Well, you can always ignore those away :-) % % - much better to do all this type of functionality without % firing anything but your current mutt instance which just has % to write to your local folders. % I really believe that this type of functionality could % easily - I aint a C programmer :( - be implemented % in mutt itself I agree, but the interesting part would be how to define it. Currently fcc-hooks are matched from top to bottom, with the last taking precedence. At the very least, I expect that would have to turn inside-out in order to allow for multiple fcc-hook definitions to allow you to point to multiple folders. I can imagine a setting that says save this message to the folders of all recipients, or perhaps to all To: recipients, as a stopgap, but what I'd really want is the ability to define arbitrary targets -- something like, say, only three of the ten recipients -- and that sounds like a trickier can of worms. I think filesystem-based mail is probably not the answer anyway (but see my other idea idea utilizing a single large Maildir and multiple user- and list-based Maildirs which really just symlink back into the master), because you end up with duplication in this sort of layout. In addition to the multiple folder formats it now supports, mutt should talk to an interface that will allow you to put a database behind it and store your mail in there; you then have full relational capabilities at your disposal and can SELECT across any slice you wish. I ain't a C programmer, either, though :-) % % BTW, people can drop the 'c' in the ':0 c' above % (I had it in there cause I was testing from myself to myself. % % Maybe I should just be quiet now :-) % % Not at all. Hey, thanks! % % -- % Eric :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg21719/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: hi
Hi, * Sanjay Acharya [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-12-18 13:22]: hi i am trying to configure my mutt...i am able to receive my mails but when i send mails, i dont get the mails. do i hacve to configure my sendmail? if yes what shud i do? Switch to something else, like Postfix. Thorsten -- Der Leser hat's gut: Er kann sich seine Schriftsteller aussuchen. - Kurt Tucholsky
Re: save all outgoing messages to a common folder - implemented
According to David T-G on Tue, Dec 18, 2001 at 07:52:37AM -0500: snip % When you (I anyway) edit the outgoing, you have two extra - % annoying - headers to stare at. Well, you can always ignore those away :-) yeah I use ignore and unignore but this is only for the pager - I was referring to when editing (for me in vim with edit_hdrs set). .. let me peep a few lines up in vim ... ah here ... From: Eric Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Mutt Users' List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bcc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: save all outgoing messages to a common folder - implemented Reply-To: In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, Dec 18 , 2001 at 07:52:37AM -0500 X-outgoing: save I agree, but the interesting part would be how to define it. Currently fcc-hooks are matched from top to bottom, with the last taking precedence. typical case of coders making it easy for themselves and hard on users - but when you are given so much for free and contribute so little it is hard to criticise :) anyway, when I send mail To: jack,john or even To: jack Cc: john I usually am sending the mail primarily to jack but it goes into john's folder - hey! Regarding your othe sentiments, I agree we have a _long_ way to go to make email really useful and practical - I agree re database functionality, filesystems are and will go that way, text already is with XML and mail will follow. ciao -- Eric Smith
mutt + spamassassin
Hi all!
I'm using procmail with spamassassin on my imap server with good
success. Most spam is filtered out.
But of course some false positives happen and I've configured
spamassassin to rewrite these messages.
What I'd like to have is a possibility to remove the spamassassin markup
and save the message from within mutt. Removing the markup with a filter
works with | spamassassin -d. But how do I then save the filtered
message? I'm using IMAP, if that matters.
Gerhard
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Internal archive viewer (MC-like)?
I wonder is it possible to add Midnight Commander-like view-inside archive functions to mutt? I have .mailcap lines for all archive types but it lets me view lists of files, not more. It could be achived by invoking mc with tar:archive name parameter, but I'd like to know if there are any specialized (read: not 'swiss army knife'-like but only capable of this job) console archive viewers suitable for this purpose? FYI, I need it to view zipped Excel tables using xls2html convertor - I receive lots of this stuff and wish to have a way to see zip contents on a here-and-now basis, without saving anything to disk - it gets full of huge evil-format files and I really hate it this way :( So I wish to have a setup like this: mutt - [interactive arc. viewer] - xls2html - lynx. -- Oleg Kourapov | Linux user #245698 http://counter.li.org Moscow, RU| LFS user #1212 http://www.linuxfromscratch.org -- Yesterday is a memory. Tomorrow is the unknown. Now is the knowing. -- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GTW d- s+: a-- C UL++ P+ L+++ E--- W+++ N++ o-- K++ w-- O M- V- PS+ PE+++ Y+ PGP++ t 5++ X++ R tv- b+++ DI+ D G e* h! r y? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- msg21723/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Internal archive viewer (MC-like)?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] said something to this effect on 12/18/2001: I wonder is it possible to add Midnight Commander-like view-inside archive functions to mutt? I have .mailcap lines for all archive types but it lets me view lists of files, not more. It could be achived by invoking mc with tar:archive name parameter, but I'd like to know if there are any specialized (read: not 'swiss army knife'-like but only capable of this job) console archive viewers suitable for this purpose? FYI, I need it to view zipped Excel tables using xls2html convertor - I receive lots of this stuff and wish to have a way to see zip contents on a here-and-now basis, without saving anything to disk - it gets full of huge evil-format files and I really hate it this way :( So I wish to have a setup like this: mutt - [interactive arc. viewer] - xls2html - lynx. Does gunzip -c %s | xls2html | lynx not work? (darren) -- Everybody wants to go to heaven, but nobody wants to die. -- Peter Tosh
Re: Internal archive viewer (MC-like)?
On Tue, Dec 18, 2001 at 03:52:58PM -0500, darren chamberlain wrote: Does gunzip -c %s | xls2html | lynx not work? (darren) -- Everybody wants to go to heaven, but nobody wants to die. -- Peter Tosh Well, the thing is that sometimes there are several XLS files in single archive and if I just dump all (g)unzip stdout to xlhtml I will get quite a mess... That's why I was asking for an arc browser, something that will let me choose what file to decompress and view. -- Oleg Kourapov | Linux user #245698 http://counter.li.org Moscow, RU| LFS user #1212 http://www.linuxfromscratch.org -- Yesterday is a memory. Tomorrow is the unknown. Now is the knowing. -- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GTW d- s+: a-- C UL++ P+ L+++ E--- W+++ N++ o-- K++ w-- O M- V- PS+ PE+++ Y+ PGP++ t 5++ X++ R tv- b+++ DI+ D G e* h! r y? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- msg21725/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: sending mails problem
Hi, On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 Sanjay Acharya spewed into the ether: hi i am trying to configure my mutt...i am able to receive my mails but when i send mails, i dont get the mails. do i hacve to configure my sendmail? if yes what shud i do? No, you can get postfix ;-) http://www.postfix.org pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg21726/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: utf-8 display problem index vs. pager
Hi, On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 Stephan Seitz spewed into the ether: [-- snip --] PS: How do you call w3m to display html mails? mailcap text/html; w3m -T text/html %s /mailcap You could also add a 'copiousoutput' at the end of that, and set auto_view text/html in your muttrc to put w3m's output into your pager. pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg21727/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: sending mails problem
On Dec 18 at 08:37PM Prahlad Vaidyanathan wrote: Hi, On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 Sanjay Acharya spewed into the ether: hi i am trying to configure my mutt...i am able to receive my mails but when i send mails, i dont get the mails. do i hacve to configure my sendmail? if yes what shud i do? No, you can get postfix ;-) or you can just use sendmail! trying adding set envelope_from in your .muttrc. I've never quite figured out why people loathe sendmail so.. especially when all it's being use for is injecting mail. -- tim lupfer [EMAIL PROTECTED] familiarity breeds contempt--and children. --mark twain
Re: sending mails problem
On Tue, Dec 18, 2001 at 10:14:54PM -0600, tim lupfer (dis)graced my inbox with: hi i am trying to configure my mutt...i am able to receive my mails but when i send mails, i dont get the mails. do i hacve to configure my sendmail? if yes what shud i do? No, you can get postfix ;-) or you can just use sendmail! trying adding set envelope_from in your .muttrc. I've never quite figured out why people loathe sendmail so.. especially when all it's being use for is injecting mail. Probably because it's config file looks like somebody was banging their head on the keyboard! -- and more importantly, dealing with the config file for any length of time will make you want to do the same! ;D -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- There are a number of mechanical devices that increase sexual arousal, particularly in women. Chief amongst these is the Mercedes-Benz 380L convertible. -- PJ O'Rourke msg21729/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: sending mails problem
Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: Probably because it's config file looks like somebody was banging their head on the keyboard! -- and more importantly, dealing with the config file for any length of time will make you want to do the same! i'm not anti-sendmail (although i prefer postfix) but sendmail is a bit of a PITA to deal with, is confusing for people without much experience, and is overkill for many applications. it's easier to mess up your own configuration with sendmail than with other MTAs. there have also been a number of security holes in sendmail; even older versions of postfix are free (AFAIK) of severe root exploits (local / remote); and the program doesn't run as root. sendmail runs as root by default. while i don't necessarily agree with all the things said about sendmail on the list (or the frequent shouts of 'use postfix'), i don't think that it's the best application for certain choices. -- Experience -- a great teacher, but the tutition fees...
Re: auto_view problem
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:07:56 -0500 From: John P Verel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mutt-users [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: auto_view problem On 12/17/01, 07:32:36PM +0100, Roman Neuhauser wrote: Hi there, I started playing with auto_view, but stumbled upon a problem: roman@roman ~ grep tar-gz /usr/local/etc/mime.types application/x-tar-gztgz tar.gz roman@roman ~ grep tar-gz ~/.mailcap application/x-tar-gz; tar tzf -;copiousoutput [-- Attachment #2: mutt-manual.html.tar.gz --] [-- Type: application/x-tar-gz, Encoding: base64, Size: 96K --] [-- application/x-tar-gz is unsupported (use 'v' to view this part) --] application/x-tar-gz; gunzip -c %s|tar tf -;copiousoutput or application/x-tar-gz; tar tzf -;copiousoutput Missing dash in front of tar options, e.g. application/x-tar-gz; tar -tzf ;copiousoutput ?? No. All the variants I tried putting in my .mailcap work in the shell, and adding the dash to the .mailcap entry didn't help either. -- FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE 7:02AM up 1 day, 17:57, 8 users, load averages: 0.06, 0.08, 0.06
how best to use addressbook queries?
I'm using abook in mutt via query_command. Wishing to address a new message to dick and jane, neither of whose email addresses I remember, I first query for dick using Q, then append to that a query for jane using A. Now both addresses appear on the query output listing. Question: How do I insert both addresses into the To: line, without typing one out the long way? -- Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Internal archive viewer (MC-like)?
How about a script that'll dump the files to /tmp, ask you to choose which one you wanted to see, pipe that one to xls2html|lynx, and then clean after itself? This one sounds reasonable, gotta try smth like that. Thanks for your suggestions! -- Oleg Kourapov | Linux user #245698 http://counter.li.org Moscow, RU| LFS user #1212 http://www.linuxfromscratch.org -- Yesterday is a memory. Tomorrow is the unknown. Now is the knowing. -- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GTW d- s+: a-- C UL++ P+ L+++ E--- W+++ N++ o-- K++ w-- O M- V- PS+ PE+++ Y+ PGP++ t 5++ X++ R tv- b+++ DI+ D G e* h! r y? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- msg21733/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: how best to use addressbook queries?
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 23:37:31 -0700 From: Mark Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: how best to use addressbook queries? I'm using abook in mutt via query_command. Wishing to address a new message to dick and jane, neither of whose email addresses I remember, I first query for dick using Q, then append to that a query for jane using A. Now both addresses appear on the query output listing. Question: How do I insert both addresses into the To: line, without typing one out the long way? This is what I do: dickC-d, janeC-d HTH -- FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE 8:00AM up 1 day, 18:55, 8 users, load averages: 0.02, 0.06, 0.07
Re: how best to use addressbook queries?
On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 08:01:29AM +0100, Roman Neuhauser wrote: From: Mark Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm using abook in mutt via query_command. Wishing to address a new message to dick and jane, neither of whose email addresses I remember, I first query for dick using Q, then append to that a query for jane using A. Now both addresses appear on the query output listing. Question: How do I insert both addresses into the To: line, without typing one out the long way? This is what I do: dickC-d, janeC-d So do I, but isn't that: dickC-t, janeC-t ? Gary -- Gary Johnson | Agilent Technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Spokane, Washington, USA http://www.spocom.com/users/gjohnson/mutt/ |
Re: Quoting when replying
Moin, * David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-12-17 15:39]: While others may have said it, and some may even believe it, I don't get it. It's simple, once you think about it: You don't quote your own comments. Thus, you cannot set them apart. It makes sense to me to have a mixture of indent chars in a discussion, and it makes things clearer for me. To each his own. I have problems with your way of doing things because it spoils the way everyone else does it. You cannot break conventions and claim that nothing is broken. So it's not To each his own, because that would defeat the very purpose of the quote signs. Wenn ich auf einmal die Sprache wecheln würde, nur damit es für *mich* klarer ist was ich schreibe, hätten die meisten anderen ebenfalls nichts davon. If you want your special kind of clearness at the expense of everyone else, just go ahead and say so, that would clear matters up. Admitted -- but I also see room for flexibility and configuration choices. So do I, but not without considering everyone else. I mean, c'mon, LookOut! will even handle %_ gracefully (well, as gracefully as it can handle anything)! You want all of us to strive for higher levels of outlookishness? Other than the fact that I just plain like the character and have no great fondness for '', and the opinion that % is nicer anyway, I don't have any other reasons. These is the reason you disrupt everyone else's MUA/editor for? I like it? Even Outlookies have better reasons for writing the answer before the question. I promise I'm *not* just trying to be stubborn. Then you have some weird priorities. % This was very useful, since you could see with one look who wrote the % quote (not who quoted it). It was color-coded of course. Nobody had Sure. That sounds like Rob's argument, though. I don't think so. Initials are far more feasible, as you can see from the fact that they are/were in wide use. I look forward to the time when 80% of everyone else will use mutt right along with us -- and perhaps find the world a better place as well. This has nothing to do with Mutt except for the fact that it can do less than Crosspoint, which is one of its design goals anyway. There are a lot of things that I do purely out of personal tradition or belief, and I'm not about to change that. There are even things that I do to incorporate the traditions or beliefs of others -- and I mean in as simple a way as a writing style, without getting into the whole arena of what might more typically be considered belief tolerance or whatever politically correct name such things might have today. Don't make a minority thing out of this. I also do a lot of things out of personal tradition, but I don't claim that they don't affect others. In this particular case I firmly believe that the proper tool -- mutt -- exists and has the configuration capability to work *with* my particular style and further believe that anyone else (particularly those already using mutt) has the ability to choose whether or not to incorporate my practice. You are right of course, I only find it obnoxious that you *require* me to change my Mutt settings or suffer the consequences. In any one-to-many-communication, the /one/ should make the effort to put out a clear message. There's even an RFC about this, as you probably know. Oooh, that was way harsh. That was in fact a compliment. In about 99% of cases, it wouldn't be worthwhile to discuss unique changes of accepted standards, carried out for purely personal reasons. I understand ineffective to mean that any message I might have is utterly lost -- something that I wouldn't even say about the upside-down quoting of Outhouse -- and is just noise in the ether. I'm sorry that you feel that way. I obviously don't. Fair enough. There are probably a lot of variables that you don't need, then. Maybe I should petition to get % added to the default list so that you will be able to read my mail. If you do that, there will someone pop up who uses § or something else. In addition, you would break lots of programs expecting adherence to standards (you do already). One quote sign is enough. Thorsten -- Intolerant people should be shot.
Re: how best to use addressbook queries?
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 23:14:22 -0800 From: Gary Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: how best to use addressbook queries? On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 08:01:29AM +0100, Roman Neuhauser wrote: From: Mark Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm using abook in mutt via query_command. Wishing to address a new message to dick and jane, neither of whose email addresses I remember, I first query for dick using Q, then append to that a query for jane using A. Now both addresses appear on the query output listing. Question: How do I insert both addresses into the To: line, without typing one out the long way? This is what I do: dickC-d, janeC-d So do I, but isn't that: dickC-t, janeC-t Ahem, sorry: roman@roman ~ grep complete-query .mail/mutt/muttrc bind editor \Cd complete-query So it's prolly C-t by default. -- FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE 8:50AM up 1 day, 19:45, 9 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00
