Re: undelete
08-Apr-02 at 09:21, VB ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : Once I mark a message as deleted and exit mutt, where does it move the message? I.e., is the message recoverable/undeletable after exiting mutt? Depends on your config a little, but in general if you have deleted a message, and when you exit you synchronise your mailbox, then the message is deleted. To have a trash folder requires patching or a specific set of hooks and general .muttrc tomfoolery Simon -- [Simon White. vim/mutt. [EMAIL PROTECTED] GIMPS:62.35% see www.mersenne.org] All this talk about everyone being connected to the Internet by the year ignores the simple fact that a large number of people in the world are fighting for survival.
Re: imap behavior
On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 09:12:59PM -0800, VB wrote: I perused http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-6.html#commands and I did not see that mutt follows the MS Outlook conventions I described. I saw mh_purge is related to renaming deleted messages, but it's not clear if this is what I am referring to. 08-Apr-02 at 23:23, David Rock ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : In its simplest form: 6.3.32. delete Type: quadoption Default: ask-yes Controls whether or not messages are really deleted when closing or synchronizing a mailbox. If set to yes, messages marked for deleting will automatically be purged without prompting. If set to no, messages marked for deletion will be kept in the mailbox. The other question was related to purge. This is mapped by default to $ in mutt, otherwise use sync-mailbox mapped to whichever key you prefer. -- [Simon White. vim/mutt. [EMAIL PROTECTED] GIMPS:63.44% see www.mersenne.org] The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is because I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet. [Linux user #170823 http://counter.li.org. Home cooked signature rotator.]
Confusion on PGP parts
My first post! Jippie! So, my question: There seems to be quite some different ways to mark that a MIME part should be processed by pgp/gpg, multipart/(signed/encrypted), application/pgp, and some (e.g. kmail) relies on the body contents to find out. Which is the 'correct' way? -- Magnus Therning [EMAIL PROTECTED] (OpenPGP: 0xD3BC7468) The corporation as we know it, which is now 120 years old, is unlikely to survive the next 25 years. Legally and financially yes, but not stucturally and economically. -- Peter Drucker msg26906/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Confusion on PGP parts
begin Magnus Therning quotation: So, my question: There seems to be quite some different ways to mark that a MIME part should be processed by pgp/gpg, multipart/(signed/encrypted), application/pgp, and some (e.g. kmail) relies on the body contents to find out. Which is the 'correct' way? The short answer; the way you're doing it now. The long answer can be found here: ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc3156.txt -- Shawn McMahon| Information may want to be free, but fiber http://www.eiv.com | optic cable wants to be one million US AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | dollars per mile. msg26907/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Preferred muttrc syntax for set commands
Dear all, I have found all of the following set commands: set nomove set move=no unset move Do they all mean the same thing? Are some forms preferred? Do all set commands support such alternatives? Tom P.S. I'd be using mutt already but the native WIN32 mutt from http://www.geocities.com/win32mutt just exits on me at the prompt without doing anything; Cygwin mutt doesn't have URLVIEW; and my Linux machine hasn't arrived yet... -- Dr. Thomas Baker[EMAIL PROTECTED] Birlinghoven Library, Fraunhofer-Gesellschaft mobile +49-171-408-5784 Institutszentrum Schloss Birlinghovenwork +49-30-8109-9027 53754 Sankt Augustin, Germany fax +49-2241-14-2619
Re: imap behavior
Van -- ...and then VB said... % % In MS Outlook, actual deletion from the imap server is a two-step process. Right; that's IMAP in general. % Is mutt capable of simulating this behavior; does it retain the marked for % deletion and purged distinction? So far, mutt takes my messages off of % the imap server, and is so impolite that it does *not* leave a copy for % future reference. I.e., there is nothing left to purge. Yes and no. BTW, if mutt takes your messages off the server, then either you're telling it to wipe them or you're not connecting via IMAP; mutt pulls down headers for the index page and then bodies at read time but does not delete the server copy until you mark it deleted in your index and then sync. You're probably telling it to wipe them, from what I read in your message, but it's not being impolite about it. Unfortunately for IMAP users, mutt does not have the concept of separate write-status-back-to-mailbox and purge-away-deleted-messages commands; when one syncs, mutt will purge any messages marked for deletion. While mutt can open a mailbox with a message marked this way (say via a procmail rule), it can't write a message with the delete flag back to a mailbox. Some might argue that it should have this ability. During your reading you could have a limit that does not show deleted messages, and that would keep your inbox clean, but if you closed mutt with a sync the messages would be gone and if you closed mutt without syncing your 'D' flags would be gone. Your best bet is probably a trash folder implementation, where you throw away messages that you don't really want to throw away (I've never understood the Deleted Messages folder and why some people keep every darned thing in there... It's a real hell for SysAdmins trying to manage disk space!) into some other folder. You might see if Cedric Duval's trash_folder patch works with IMAP mailboxes, but I doubt it. Hmmm... In thinking a bit about this, I realized that you could write DELETE or whatever you want into the X-Label: field and then hide messages based on that and, later on, purge them away also based on that. You lose the ability to take any notes in there for those messages, but what do you care if you're going to delete them anyway? So something like macro index ,d edit-labelDELETEenterlimit! ~y DELETEenter macro pager ,d edit-labelDELETEenterlimit! ~y DELETEenter macro index ,D delete-pattern~y DELETEentersync would probably do you, though that's from the hip and untested. In particular I don't know about limiting from the pager view and about resolution; you might have to quit the pager and get to the index first, which would make this kinda klunky for one-key mailbox reading. % % I perused http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-6.html#commands and I did % not see that mutt follows the MS Outlook conventions I described. I saw % mh_purge is related to renaming deleted messages, but it's not clear if % this is what I am referring to. Nope; that won't do for you. % % Can someone please speak to this? Hello? Hello? Is this on? What are you doing today, this? ;-) % % Van HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26909/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Confusion on PGP parts
Magnus -- ...and then Magnus Therning said... % % My first post! Jippie! Welcome! % % So, my question: % There seems to be quite some different ways to mark that a MIME part % should be processed by pgp/gpg, multipart/(signed/encrypted), Well, some of that is based on the PGP method itself. You have to note whether or not it is signed and/or encrypted *somewhere*... % application/pgp, and some (e.g. kmail) relies on the body contents to % find out. Which is the 'correct' way? That's a very loaded question, and you may find yourself embroiled in a flamefest for having popped it. Check the mutt-users archives for PGP/MIME and traditional and outlook to review some of the past discussions and come up to speed. % % -- % Magnus Therning % [EMAIL PROTECTED] (OpenPGP: 0xD3BC7468) % % The corporation as we know it, which is now 120 years old, is unlikely to % survive the next 25 years. Legally and financially yes, but not stucturally % and economically. % -- Peter Drucker :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26910/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Preferred muttrc syntax for set commands
Thomas -- ...and then Thomas Baker said... % % Dear all, % % I have found all of the following set commands: % % set nomove % set move=no % unset move Yep. % % Do they all mean the same thing? Are some forms preferred? Yep. Nope. % Do all set commands support such alternatives? Yep. % % Tom % % P.S. I'd be using mutt already but the native WIN32 mutt from % http://www.geocities.com/win32mutt just exits on me at the prompt % without doing anything; Cygwin mutt doesn't have URLVIEW; and my So you'd rather be stuck in some other mail program just because you'd have to manually handle some links while waiting for urlview?? C'mon; you can do better than that! % Linux machine hasn't arrived yet... You obviously have a perfectly good machine on your desk. You mean your replacement windows machine hasn't arrived, don't you? ;-) % % -- % Dr. Thomas Baker[EMAIL PROTECTED] % Birlinghoven Library, Fraunhofer-Gesellschaft mobile +49-171-408-5784 % Institutszentrum Schloss Birlinghovenwork +49-30-8109-9027 % 53754 Sankt Augustin, Germany fax +49-2241-14-2619 % HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26911/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: un-alternates?
dgc -- ...and then David Champion said... % % * On 2002.04.06, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], % * Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: % Alas! David T-G spake thus: ... % % Use perl or python or egrep of emacs or some of the more modern vi ... % recall that egrep is *not* the same as mutt. % % But can we assume that perl is the same? I don't believe that we can. I don't know about that one; my recollection is that perl worked well enough, but it wasn't my test at the time. BTW, it seems that [^(lauratg)] does not work; group-replies to said family broadcast messages suddenly come from this David T-G guy that mutt doesn't recognize :-) % That's the essence of the question; unfortunately it needs someone who's % been paying attention to code evolution (or a C reader with way too much % free time) to answer it. Ouch. % % Hmm -- or a quick hack that uses perl's regex.c. I'll get on that. Why not a quick hack that uses mutt's, or whatever regex library mutt is using? I don't get the perl source bit... % % -- % -D. [EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago TIAagain HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26912/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: imap behavior
09-Apr-02 at 08:00, David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : Your best bet is probably a trash folder implementation, where you throw away messages that you don't really want to throw away (I've never understood the Deleted Messages folder and why some people keep every darned thing in there... It's a real hell for SysAdmins trying to manage disk space!) into some other folder. Set your server to automatically purge Deleted Messages. They won't ever use it to store mail again ;-) I use IMAP and am very happy with Mutt's implementation. Deleted mail is marked D and goes away only if I sync. Why should I flag to delete and not want to delete that session? I will move it to another folder if it's for reading later, and just delete and be done with it if it is read and there is no action for it. I press $ sync-mailbox a LOT. -- [Simon White. vim/mutt. [EMAIL PROTECTED] GIMPS:63.71% see www.mersenne.org] Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest. -- Diderot [Linux user #170823 http://counter.li.org. Home cooked signature rotator.]
Mails are always tagged as old but unread
Hello everybody, I start mutt with the -y option to see which mailboxes contain new mails. If I enter a mailbox which was marked with a N , all mails in this mailbox are marked with an O instead of an N. Any hints ?? Greetings Christoph -- gpg fingerprint: 88DA B106 D973 B2AF 7CCB 725A F76C 803C 758F 71C0
Re: Preferred muttrc syntax for set commands
On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, David T-G wrote: % P.S. I'd be using mutt already but the native WIN32 mutt from % http://www.geocities.com/win32mutt just exits on me at the prompt % without doing anything; Cygwin mutt doesn't have URLVIEW; and my So you'd rather be stuck in some other mail program just because you'd have to manually handle some links while waiting for urlview?? C'mon; you can do better than that! Not quite as easy as that... -- the Solaris machine that I telnet to doesn't have mutt either. % Linux machine hasn't arrived yet... You obviously have a perfectly good machine on your desk. You mean your replacement windows machine hasn't arrived, don't you? ;-) See above...;-) Tom -- Dr. Thomas Baker[EMAIL PROTECTED] Birlinghoven Library, Fraunhofer-Gesellschaft mobile +49-171-408-5784 Institutszentrum Schloss Birlinghovenwork +49-30-8109-9027 53754 Sankt Augustin, Germany fax +49-2241-14-2619
Re: imap behavior
On 04-09-2002 at 08:56 EDT, Simon White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Set your server to automatically purge Deleted Messages. They won't ever use it to store mail again ;-) [...] How are you accomplishing this? Is that a special IMAP server? I use IMAP from Washington University and I don't have such option... Cheers, -- David Collantes - http://www.bus.ucf.edu/david/ College of Business Administration, University of Central Florida I never think of the future. It comes soon enough. smime.p7s Description: application/pkcs7-signature
Re: imap behavior
Simon -- ...and then Simon White said... % % 09-Apr-02 at 08:00, David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : ... % understood the Deleted Messages folder and why some people keep every % darned thing in there... It's a real hell for SysAdmins trying to manage % disk space!) into some other folder. % % Set your server to automatically purge Deleted Messages. They won't ever % use it to store mail again ;-) Heh :-) While I'd love to, I'm usually just the scummy contractor brought in to help clean up the mess, and somehow that never involves properly trashing (replace it with Linux! oh, shut up) or even properly configuring all of the Win stuff. No matter; there's always enough work to do on the *NIX side, anyway. But I love the idea :-) % % I use IMAP and am very happy with Mutt's implementation. Deleted mail is % marked D and goes away only if I sync. Why should I flag to delete and not % want to delete that session? I will move it to another folder if it's for Yeah, exactly! % reading later, and just delete and be done with it if it is read and there % is no action for it. I press $ sync-mailbox a LOT. Same here, and I'm only on mbox :-) I'd probably use IMAP more except for the bit where I can't go back and mark a message 'N'ew again :-( % % -- % [Simon White. vim/mutt. [EMAIL PROTECTED] GIMPS:63.71% see www.mersenne.org] % Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails % of the last priest. -- Diderot % [Linux user #170823 http://counter.li.org. Home cooked signature rotator.] HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26917/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: imap behavior
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 09:10:17AM -0500, David T-G wrote: Same here, and I'm only on mbox :-) I'd probably use IMAP more except for the bit where I can't go back and mark a message 'N'ew again :-( why not? works for me... The only time I wished for a trash box was when I notied a lot of times I delete a message without reading it (from one of the lists), and notice that I actually did want to read it (while it was syncing)... but for that, I just created a mail.today box, and a mail.yesterday - that keeps all the mail I get in the past two days... :) -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg26918/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: imap behavior
Dan, et al -- ...and then Dan Boger said... % % On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 09:10:17AM -0500, David T-G wrote: % Same here, and I'm only on mbox :-) I'd probably use IMAP more except % for the bit where I can't go back and mark a message 'N'ew again :-( % % why not? works for me... The only time I wished for a trash box was Why not live without the 'N'ew flag? Because I want it, of course. Or am I missing your point? % when I notied a lot of times I delete a message without reading it (from % one of the lists), and notice that I actually did want to read it (while % it was syncing)... but for that, I just created a mail.today box, and a % mail.yesterday - that keeps all the mail I get in the past two days... % :) Not a bad idea. I use procmail's backup method and I keep the last 3k messages, or almost 5 days' worth at the current rate. % % -- % Dan Boger % [EMAIL PROTECTED] TIA HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26919/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: imap behavior
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 09:27:10AM -0500, David T-G wrote: % On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 09:10:17AM -0500, David T-G wrote: % Same here, and I'm only on mbox :-) I'd probably use IMAP more except % for the bit where I can't go back and mark a message 'N'ew again :-( % % why not? works for me... The only time I wished for a trash box was Why not live without the 'N'ew flag? Because I want it, of course. Or am I missing your point? yes, you are :) why can't you go back and mark a message 'N' again? -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg26920/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Preferred muttrc syntax for set commands
Hi, * Michael Tatge [04/09/02 15:42:25 CEST] wrote: Who needs urlview? I like using it because I hate copy'n'paste. I also don't like to idea to use a mouse as frequently as urlview. ;-) Cheers, Rocco. msg26921/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: imap behavior
Dan, et al -- ...and then Dan Boger said... % % On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 09:27:10AM -0500, David T-G wrote: ... % Or am I missing your point? % % yes, you are :) why can't you go back and mark a message 'N' again? It's my understanding that the IMAP design does not allow the client to write back the N flag. There was a time when I *could* write it, and all was well, but then we upgraded to a current, secure, modern IMAP server and that went away. When I wailed and moaned, thinking it was mutt's fault, I was told that that's How It Should be. Ugh. I telnetted to my imap port and simply got [zero] [9:39am] ~ telnet localhost 143 Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. * OK localhost IMAP4rev1 v12.264 server ready ^] telnet qui Connection closed. so I don't know for sure what IMAP server we're running. It's not worth further checking unless my understanding is out of date or otherwise incorrect, though. You can write the 'N'ew flag back to your mailbox? % % -- % Dan Boger % [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26922/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Preferred muttrc syntax for set commands
Rocco -- ...and then Rocco Rutte said... % % Hi, % % * Michael Tatge [04/09/02 15:42:25 CEST] wrote: % Who needs urlview? % % I like using it because I hate copy'n'paste. I also don't like to idea % to use a mouse as frequently as urlview. ;-) Perhaps he should have phrased it as who would prefer urlview over anything other than mutt? :-) % % Cheers, Rocco. HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26923/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: imap behavior
09-Apr-02 at 09:31, David Collantes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : On 04-09-2002 at 08:56 EDT, Simon White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Set your server to automatically purge Deleted Messages. They won't ever use it to store mail again ;-) [...] How are you accomplishing this? Is that a special IMAP server? I use IMAP from Washington University and I don't have such option... I don't actually do it here, because IMAP is only for internal staff, others all use POP. However, it would be reasonably easy, if everyone's deleted messages folder was called Deleted Messages to run a cron job to purge messages every once in a while by going to each $HOME/mail or wherever else, and then deleting the file. You could even parse messages older than 1 week old, or something. Exchange has built in settings for this kind of stuff, and with 5.5 at least you must do some scheduled stuff to keep the mailboxes from corrupting - one big file with all the data cannot be left just growing and growing without pruning and watering. Sadly Microsoft products, supposedly to make your life easier, have such a sorry set of defaults that you have to hack (or click Advanced everywhere, at the very least) things to get them to work as well as out-of-the-box solutions on Linux, Solaris, Unix and even Mac OSX. -- [Simon White. vim/mutt. [EMAIL PROTECTED] GIMPS:63.82% see www.mersenne.org] Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction. -- Blaise Pascal [Linux user #170823 http://counter.li.org. Home cooked signature rotator.]
Re: imap behavior
09-Apr-02 at 09:10, David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : Heh :-) While I'd love to, I'm usually just the scummy contractor brought in to help clean up the mess, and somehow that never involves properly trashing (replace it with Linux! oh, shut up) or even properly configuring all of the Win stuff. No matter; there's always enough work to do on the *NIX side, anyway. I get my own way as a contractor, as much as possible. But then I do not have the same calibre of client as you do, I imagine, since I'm in Morocco. Guru status can be rapidly acheived in a place where real Gurus all left and went to the US years ago ;-) -- [Simon White. vim/mutt. [EMAIL PROTECTED] GIMPS:63.83% see www.mersenne.org] Not only does Jesus save, but he makes nightly off-site backups. [Linux user #170823 http://counter.li.org. Home cooked signature rotator.]
Re: imap behavior
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 09:42:02AM -0500, David T-G wrote: I telnetted to my imap port and simply got [zero] [9:39am] ~ telnet localhost 143 Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. * OK localhost IMAP4rev1 v12.264 server ready ^] telnet qui Connection closed. so I don't know for sure what IMAP server we're running. It's not worth further checking unless my understanding is out of date or otherwise incorrect, though. You can write the 'N'ew flag back to your mailbox? I think that's the WU IMAP implementation... I think that, because that's what I run, and my header is * OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4REV1 LOGIN-REFERRALS STARTTLS LOGINDISABLED] localhost.localdomain IMAP4rev1 2001.315 at Tue, 9 Apr 2002 10:45:50 -0400 (EDT) (LOGINDISABLED because it's not a secure channle) maybe you're running an old version? -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg26926/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: imap behavior
Simon -- ...and then Simon White said... % % 09-Apr-02 at 09:10, David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : % Heh :-) While I'd love to, I'm usually just the scummy contractor ... % enough work to do on the *NIX side, anyway. % % I get my own way as a contractor, as much as possible. But then I do not Oh, don't get me wrong; I get my way a lot, too, especially here where I can even sell it as you don't want to treat me like the rest of your employees because the IRS might then consider me one. But I don't pretend to be an MS expert and so I'm never contracted in that capacity. It doesn't matter that I have valuable input anyway :-) % have the same calibre of client as you do, I imagine, since I'm in % Morocco. Guru status can be rapidly acheived in a place where real Gurus % all left and went to the US years ago ;-) Hmmm... Good point. Any room for more fish in that pond? :-) % % -- % [Simon White. vim/mutt. [EMAIL PROTECTED] GIMPS:63.83% see www.mersenne.org] % Not only does Jesus save, but he makes nightly off-site backups. % [Linux user #170823 http://counter.li.org. Home cooked signature rotator.] HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26927/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: imap behavior
On Tue, 09 Apr 2002, David T-G wrote: so I don't know for sure what IMAP server we're running. It's not worth further checking unless my understanding is out of date or otherwise incorrect, though. You can write the 'N'ew flag back to your mailbox? Hi, David. I just tested, and I can indeed write back the new flag to my mailbox. Both on a Cyrus IMAP server, and on an Exchange server. With my keybindings, Shift-N will reset the new flag, and it persists across sessions, and changes are visible in other clients if I refresh their view. Cheers, -Tim
Re: imap behavior
Dan -- ...and then Dan Boger said... % % On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 09:42:02AM -0500, David T-G wrote: % I telnetted to my imap port and simply got ... %* OK localhost IMAP4rev1 v12.264 server ready ... % incorrect, though. You can write the 'N'ew flag back to your mailbox? % % I think that's the WU IMAP implementation... I think that, because % that's what I run, and my header is Hmmm... % % * OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4REV1 LOGIN-REFERRALS STARTTLS LOGINDISABLED] % localhost.localdomain IMAP4rev1 2001.315 at Tue, 9 Apr 2002 10:45:50 % -0400 (EDT) % % (LOGINDISABLED because it's not a secure channle) % % maybe you're running an old version? Possibly so. Meanwhile, if you *can* write a 'N'ew flag back to any mailbox, I'll start bugging root! % % -- % Dan Boger % [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26929/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: imap behavior
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 10:55:33AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 09:42:02AM -0500, David T-G wrote: I telnetted to my imap port and simply got [snip] * OK localhost IMAP4rev1 v12.264 server ready I think that's the WU IMAP implementation... It looks identical to the response that we used to get from our WU imapd. -- David SmithWork Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] STMicroelectronics Home Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bristol, England
Re: imap behavior
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 09:59:25AM -0500, David T-G wrote: Possibly so. Meanwhile, if you *can* write a 'N'ew flag back to any mailbox, I'll start bugging root! yup, works, no problems :) bug away! -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg26931/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: imap behavior
Tim -- ...and then Tim Kennedy said... % % On Tue, 09 Apr 2002, David T-G wrote: % % incorrect, though. You can write the 'N'ew flag back to your mailbox? % % Hi, David. Hello! % % I just tested, and I can indeed write back the new flag to my mailbox. Hey, cool! % Both on a Cyrus IMAP server, and on an Exchange server. The latter doesn't matter, since I certainly won't go near MS, but the former is certainly a possibility. I don't know for sure what we're using now. % With my keybindings, Shift-N will reset the new flag, and it persists % across sessions, and changes are visible in other clients if I refresh % their view. Excellent! Thanks so much. [Dan, if you can tell me what you're running and that it works for you I can give root a choice, so please do follow up.] % % Cheers, % % -Tim Thanks HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26932/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: imap behavior
Dave -- ...and then Dave Smith said... % % On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 10:55:33AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: % On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 09:42:02AM -0500, David T-G wrote: % I telnetted to my imap port and simply got % [snip] % * OK localhost IMAP4rev1 v12.264 server ready % I think that's the WU IMAP implementation... % % It looks identical to the response that we used to get from our WU % imapd. Ahhh... used to says perhaps we are old here. Good; I even have a non-personal excuse to beat up root :-) % % -- % David SmithWork Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] % STMicroelectronics Home Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] % Bristol, England :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26933/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: imap behavior
09-Apr-02 at 09:57, David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : % have the same calibre of client as you do, I imagine, since I'm in % Morocco. Guru status can be rapidly acheived in a place where real Gurus % all left and went to the US years ago ;-) Hmmm... Good point. Any room for more fish in that pond? :-) Plenty room in this pond. More dollars per capita in the US pond though ;-) my salary here makes work seem more like a hobby than anything else... but I'm learning fast and enjoying the ride so far. Until someone makes me an offer of course. -- [Simon White. vim/mutt. [EMAIL PROTECTED] GIMPS:63.86% see www.mersenne.org] Tis better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. -- Abraham Lincoln [Linux user #170823 http://counter.li.org. Home cooked signature rotator.]
Re: Mails are always tagged as old but unread
replied to Michael insted of mutt-users, sorry: - Forwarded message from chris - Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 16:33:21 +0200 To: Michael Tatge [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mails are always tagged as old but unread * Am Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 03:45:02PM +0200 , schrieb Michael Tatge: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: Hello everybody, I start mutt with the -y option to see which mailboxes contain new mails. If I enter a mailbox which was marked with a N , all mails in this mailbox are marked with an O instead of an N. set mark_old=no if you don't like this behaviour. I did. :) But that is not what i wanted. When mark_old=no, the old unread messages seem to be new too. But there are Messages in my mailbox which weren't there when I ran mutt the last time. And these are marked with an O instead of an N. Understand ? Or are the mailboxes opened when starting mutt with -y ? That would explain why mutt thinks the mailbox was opened before. Christoph HTH, Michael -- PGP-Key: http://www-stud.ims.uni-stuttgart.de/~tatgeml/public.key -- gpg fingerprint: 88DA B106 D973 B2AF 7CCB 725A F76C 803C 758F 71C0 - End forwarded message - -- gpg fingerprint: 88DA B106 D973 B2AF 7CCB 725A F76C 803C 758F 71C0
Re: Mails are always tagged as old but unread
Chris -- ...and then [EMAIL PROTECTED] said... % % replied to Michael insted of mutt-users, sorry: BTW, you can bounce your saved copy to mutt-users (perhaps after tweaking your address, if you use a specific one as I do) to avoid the extra layer of quoting and resultant confusion. Forwarding, and particularly inline forwarding instead of MIME forwarding, gets ugly fast. % - Forwarded message from chris - % % * Am Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 03:45:02PM +0200 , schrieb Michael Tatge: % [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: ... %I start mutt with the -y option to see which mailboxes contain new mails. %If I enter a mailbox which was marked with a N , all mails in this So you do see an 'N' in the browser view, then. %mailbox are marked with an O instead of an N. Hokay; you must have been here before and then exited with $mark_old set. % % set mark_old=no if you don't like this behaviour. I did. :) % % But that is not what i wanted. When mark_old=no, the old unread messages % seem to be new too. But there are Messages in my mailbox which weren't % there when I ran mutt the last time. And these are marked with an O % instead of an N. Understand ? So you had, say, messages one through four in your mailbox. When you return, they as well as a new message five are all marked old, even though you've never before laid eyes on message five. Correct? If so, that is quite interesting. Do you ever see 'N'ew mails in any folder? Are you using procmail or any other filtering software which might be writing a Status: or X-Status: header? What type of mailfolder are you using? For a folder =mybox, what do you see when you run ls -lF $MAIL/mybox? What if, assuming it's an mbox folder, you (after first copying the mailbox to a temp mailbox to avoid corruption!) edit the file and remove any Status: and X-Status: fields you find and then run mutt on that folder? Are the messages still old, or are they finally new? % Or are the mailboxes opened when starting mutt with -y ? That would % explain why mutt thinks the mailbox was opened before. No, they aren't; see the oft-recurring why doesn't mutt tell me I have new mail? and can mutt tell me how many new mails I have? discussions for more on this. HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26936/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mails are always tagged as old but unread
* Am Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 11:47:18AM -0500 , schrieb David T-G: % * Am Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 03:45:02PM +0200 , schrieb Michael Tatge: % [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: ... %I start mutt with the -y option to see which mailboxes contain new mails. %If I enter a mailbox which was marked with a N , all mails in this So you do see an 'N' in the browser view, then. %mailbox are marked with an O instead of an N. Hokay; you must have been here before and then exited with $mark_old set. % % set mark_old=no if you don't like this behaviour. I did. :) % % But that is not what i wanted. When mark_old=no, the old unread messages % seem to be new too. But there are Messages in my mailbox which weren't % there when I ran mutt the last time. And these are marked with an O % instead of an N. Understand ? So you had, say, messages one through four in your mailbox. When you return, they as well as a new message five are all marked old, even though you've never before laid eyes on message five. Correct? Correct. Message one through four are morked O when I haven't read them and marked not if I have read them. This is how i want it. But message five is marked O although I never laid eyes on it. If so, that is quite interesting. Do you ever see 'N'ew mails in any folder? Are you using procmail or any other filtering software which might be writing a Status: or X-Status: header? I see New mails in my spool but not in the mutt-user mbox. And i am using procmail, but it doesn't write Status or X-Status headers And I see New mails in the folder-list. What type of mailfolder are you using? For a folder =mybox, what do you see when you run ls -lF $MAIL/mybox? I use mbox folders. chris@trillian:~$ ls -lF Mail/mutt-users -rw-rw1 chrisusers 425032 9. Apr 18:58 Mail/mutt-users chris@trillian:~$ ls -lF /var/spool/mail/chris -rw-rw1 chrismail15628 9. Apr 19:07 /var/spool/mail/chris What if, assuming it's an mbox folder, you (after first copying the mailbox to a temp mailbox to avoid corruption!) edit the file and remove any Status: and X-Status: fields you find and then run mutt on that folder? Are the messages still old, or are they finally new? They are all new. % Or are the mailboxes opened when starting mutt with -y ? That would % explain why mutt thinks the mailbox was opened before. No, they aren't; see the oft-recurring why doesn't mutt tell me I have new mail? and can mutt tell me how many new mails I have? discussions for more on this. Greetings Christoph HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! -- gpg fingerprint: 88DA B106 D973 B2AF 7CCB 725A F76C 803C 758F 71C0
wrap text
Hi all. How can I set up mutt, to wrap the text of incomming messages to a specified number of columns? TIA -- Eduardo Gargiulo ejg(at)ar.homelinux.org
Mailbox was corrupted
Hi there. I'm using the compressed folders patch/feature, and running this list in such a folder, with fcc-hook, so if I post a message here, it should (and it does) stay here, but when I hit 'send' at the compose menu, I got a mail-sent hint, followed witch a Mailbox was corrupted one, which seems false, I can't see the msg just posted, but when I change to another folder and back to this one, I can see it appended right. I'm using the default open-append-close hooks, and the only thing I don't understand is that error message. I did a backup of the full mail tree. Just in case ;) -- Rafael C. Gawenda, rgawenda/at/pobox/dot/com 2:348/610@fidonet; GnuPG key: 0x5C4839A5; Registered LiNUX User #93375 There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home (Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment Corp., 1977) msg26939/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mails are always tagged as old but unread
Christoph -- ...and then [EMAIL PROTECTED] said... % % * Am Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 11:47:18AM -0500 , schrieb David T-G: ... % % So you had, say, messages one through four in your mailbox. When you % return, they as well as a new message five are all marked old, even % though you've never before laid eyes on message five. Correct? % % Correct. Message one through four are morked O when I haven't read Hokay. % them and marked not if I have read them. This is how i want it. But % message five is marked O although I never laid eyes on it. That's interesting. You say you've never seen the message before, and I'll believe that, but forgive me if I dig on a bit more. How does this message get into the mailbox in question? Does procmail deliver it directly? Does all mail land in $spoolfile and then get moved elsewhere? % % If so, that is quite interesting. Do you ever see 'N'ew mails in any % folder? Are you using procmail or any other filtering software which % might be writing a Status: or X-Status: header? % % I see New mails in my spool but not in the mutt-user mbox. And i am How do mails get into the mutt-user mailbox? Is that for incoming or outgoing? And do you always see new mail in $spoolfile as you expect to, or does the problem sometimes come up there, too? % using procmail, but it doesn't write Status or X-Status headers % And I see New mails in the folder-list. The folder-list doesn't count; don't worry about that. And I didn't really expect that procmail would write such headers, but it's worth checking. % % What type of mailfolder are you using? For a folder =mybox, what do you % see when you run ls -lF $MAIL/mybox? % % I use mbox folders. Hokay; all I've told you, then, is valid. Maildir, for instance, marks its messages as old and read differently. % ... % remove any Status: and X-Status: fields you find and then run mutt on % that folder? Are the messages still old, or are they finally new? % % They are all new. Good; that part works. HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26941/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: wrap text
Eduardo -- ...and then Eduardo Gargiulo said... % % Hi all. Hello! % % How can I set up mutt, to wrap the text of incomming messages to a % specified number of columns? Search the manual for wrap and see for yourself. Pay particular attention to $markers as well as $smart_wrap and $wrapmargin. % % TIA HTH HAND % % -- % Eduardo Gargiulo % ejg(at)ar.homelinux.org :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26942/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: un-alternates?
* On 2002.04.09, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], * David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not a quick hack that uses mutt's, or whatever regex library mutt is using? I don't get the perl source bit... Oops. I did mean mutt's regex.c -- just a typo. -- -D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago
Re: Mailbox was corrupted
Rafael -- ...and then Rafael C. Gawenda said... % % Hi there. Hello! % % I'm using the compressed folders patch/feature, and running this list in % such a folder, with fcc-hook, so if I post a message here, it should (and it You should never have mail delivered to a compressed folder. Just don't do it; there are too many locking and corruption issues. In case you're not actually delivering there, though, we'll continue on... % does) stay here, but when I hit 'send' at the compose menu, I got a % mail-sent hint, followed witch a Mailbox was corrupted one, which seems % false, I can't see the msg just posted, but when I change to another folder The problem is that mutt, as directed, writes to the actual compressed folder, but you are working in a temporary copy; mutt doesn't actually speak compressed folders like it speaks mbox files. When the source folder is modified, as far as mutt is concerned it is corrupted, and so it tells you so. % and back to this one, I can see it appended right. I'm using the default % open-append-close hooks, and the only thing I don't understand is that error % message. If you *really* want to send a message to mutt-users and have it happily appear in your compressed folder, have your fcc-save-hook write to '^' after applying Byrial's current_shortcut patch; the message will end up in the temp file, and upon exit mutt will see that and use the close-hook to put the temp file back in place as the real file. [BTW, I bet that even though your message to mutt-users shows up the message to which you're replying never shows up with an 'r', right?] % % I did a backup of the full mail tree. Just in case ;) That's a good idea if you're delivering into that compressed folder. Stop that immediately! % % -- % Rafael C. Gawenda, rgawenda/at/pobox/dot/com % 2:348/610@fidonet; GnuPG key: 0x5C4839A5; Registered LiNUX User #93375 % There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home (Ken Olson, % president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment Corp., 1977) HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26944/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: un-alternates?
dgc -- ...and then David Champion said... % % * On 2002.04.09, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], % * David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: % % Why not a quick hack that uses mutt's, or whatever regex library mutt is % using? I don't get the perl source bit... % % Oops. I did mean mutt's regex.c -- just a typo. Ah. That makes more sense :-) I eagerly await your contrib! % % -- % -D. [EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26945/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: wrap text
David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Search the manual for wrap and see for yourself. Pay particular attention to $markers as well as $smart_wrap and $wrapmargin. I did it. I set smart_wrap and markers, but the manual don't say nothing about wrapmargin. I'm using mutt 1.2.5i. Could wrapmargin be a feature of newest mutt versions? -- Eduardo Gargiulo ejg(at)ar.homelinux.org msg26946/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: wrap text
09-Apr-02 at 15:55, Eduardo Gargiulo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Search the manual for wrap and see for yourself. Pay particular attention to $markers as well as $smart_wrap and $wrapmargin. I did it. I set smart_wrap and markers, but the manual don't say nothing about wrapmargin. I'm using mutt 1.2.5i. Could wrapmargin be a feature of newest mutt versions? 6.3.233. wrapmargin Type: number Default: 0 Controls the margin left at the right side of the terminal when mutt's pager does smart wrapping. My manual don't say nothing (i.e. it says something) about it. 1--1=2 -- [Simon White. vim/mutt. [EMAIL PROTECTED] GIMPS:64.09% see www.mersenne.org] IDIOT, n - A member of a large and powerful tribe whose influence in human affairs has always been dominant and controlling. -- Ambrose Bierce [Linux user #170823 http://counter.li.org. Home cooked signature rotator.]
Re: wrap text
Eduardo -- ...and then Eduardo Gargiulo said... % % David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: % Search the manual for wrap and see for yourself. Pay particular % attention to $markers as well as $smart_wrap and $wrapmargin. % % I did it. I set smart_wrap and markers, but the manual don't say Good! % nothing about wrapmargin. I'm using mutt 1.2.5i. Could wrapmargin be a % feature of newest mutt versions? It certainly could. You should upgrade anyway; a security hole was found that affects 1.2.5 and before. % % -- % Eduardo Gargiulo % ejg(at)ar.homelinux.org :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26948/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mails are always tagged as old but unread
Hello again, I tried a little and i think this Problem is NOT mutts problem. I tried some biffs and they all had the same problem. (except mailcheck). So i think it either procmail or fetchmail do something strange to the mails. I will just have to wait a little until there are enough new mails in my mailfolders, make a backup and then check what makes the difference. I will tell you what I found out tomorrow (hopefully) And thank you Christoph * Am Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 12:57:53PM -0500 , schrieb David T-G: Christoph -- ...and then [EMAIL PROTECTED] said... % % * Am Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 11:47:18AM -0500 , schrieb David T-G: ... % % So you had, say, messages one through four in your mailbox. When you % return, they as well as a new message five are all marked old, even % though you've never before laid eyes on message five. Correct? % % Correct. Message one through four are morked O when I haven't read Hokay. % them and marked not if I have read them. This is how i want it. But % message five is marked O although I never laid eyes on it. That's interesting. You say you've never seen the message before, and I'll believe that, but forgive me if I dig on a bit more. How does this message get into the mailbox in question? Does procmail deliver it directly? Does all mail land in $spoolfile and then get moved elsewhere? % % If so, that is quite interesting. Do you ever see 'N'ew mails in any % folder? Are you using procmail or any other filtering software which % might be writing a Status: or X-Status: header? % % I see New mails in my spool but not in the mutt-user mbox. And i am How do mails get into the mutt-user mailbox? Is that for incoming or outgoing? And do you always see new mail in $spoolfile as you expect to, or does the problem sometimes come up there, too? % using procmail, but it doesn't write Status or X-Status headers % And I see New mails in the folder-list. The folder-list doesn't count; don't worry about that. And I didn't really expect that procmail would write such headers, but it's worth checking. % % What type of mailfolder are you using? For a folder =mybox, what do you % see when you run ls -lF $MAIL/mybox? % % I use mbox folders. Hokay; all I've told you, then, is valid. Maildir, for instance, marks its messages as old and read differently. % ... % remove any Status: and X-Status: fields you find and then run mutt on % that folder? Are the messages still old, or are they finally new? % % They are all new. Good; that part works. HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! -- gpg fingerprint: 88DA B106 D973 B2AF 7CCB 725A F76C 803C 758F 71C0
Re: Mails are always tagged as old but unread
Christoph -- ...and then [EMAIL PROTECTED] said... % % Hello again, Hi! % % I tried a little and i think this Problem is NOT mutts problem. Of course it isn't ;-) % I tried some biffs and they all had the same problem. % (except mailcheck). So i think it either procmail or % fetchmail do something strange to the mails. Ahhh... Interesting. I don't know if fetchmail can do it, but you might try having it write into a mailbox as well as (or instead of) handing to procmail. If you're delivering to procmail via a .forward file then it's easy to add another line for the copy mailbox. % % I will just have to wait a little until there are enough new mails in my Heh -- that's easy: # while true ; do echo testing | mailx -s `date` chris ; sleep 60 ; done That should help you see if it's a procmail issue; if you need to involve fetchmail, then just send out to your ISP address and pull the mail down. % mailfolders, make a backup and then check what makes the difference. % I will tell you what I found out tomorrow (hopefully) Great! % % And thank you HTH HAND % % Christoph :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26950/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
How to convert Outlook *.pst files to mbox format?
This may be an FAQ, but I couldn't come up with it. I have substantial *.pst files from Microsoft Outlook from work which I want to convert to mbox format. Any pointers on this will be gratefully appreciated. -- John P. Verel Living Proof That Low Tech Beats High Tech!
Re: How to convert Outlook *.pst files to mbox format?
* John P Verel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-09 21:41 -0400]:
This may be an FAQ, but I couldn't come up with it.
I have substantial *.pst files from Microsoft Outlook from work which
I want to convert to mbox format. Any pointers on this will be
gratefully appreciated.
I've done that recently. I used Mozilla on Windows to import the PST
files. Then hunted down where Mozilla actually has his files.
c:/Documents and Settings//AppData/Mozilla or similar it was in my
case. Mozilla saves its mails in a mbox format. However, in a peculiar
one with Windows line endings, so you have to get rid of the CR for
example using tr. Voila the converted mbox files.
In my case it was even worse, because my final aim was not mbox, but
uploading the files on my imap server, then filtering them there using
my procmail setup. In theory, this would work with formail/procmail, but
in practise, I gave up after an hour or two. What I finally did was
opening the mbox file in mutt, tag all messages and bounce them to my
account on the imap machine. Bouncing 1700 messages to it and filtering
them thru procmail gave my server a major workout :-)
Gerhard
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Re: How to convert Outlook *.pst files to mbox format?
Gerhard Häring wrote: * John P Verel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-09 21:41 -0400]: This may be an FAQ, but I couldn't come up with it. I have substantial *.pst files from Microsoft Outlook from work which I want to convert to mbox format. Any pointers on this will be gratefully appreciated. I've done that recently. I used Mozilla on Windows to import the PST files. Then hunted down where Mozilla actually has his files. c:/Documents and Settings//AppData/Mozilla or similar it was in my case. Mozilla saves its mails in a mbox format. However, in a peculiar one with Windows line endings, so you have to get rid of the CR for example using tr. Voila the converted mbox files. if you have access to an IMAP server (or even if you can temporarily install one on the machine you're running mutt on), you could use outlook to copy the files to an IMAP server; then download the messages into mutt (or if you have access to the IMAP server, and it's running UW imapd, you can even just copy the mbox files wherever you want them). there are also some conversion tools out there, but seems to me it is easier to use IMAP if possible. -- Will Yardley input: william @ hq . newdream . net .
Re: How to convert Outlook *.pst files to mbox format?
On 04/10/02, 04:02:02AM +0200, Gerhard Häring wrote: I've done that recently. I used Mozilla on Windows to import the PST files. Then hunted down where Mozilla actually has his files. c:/Documents and Settings//AppData/Mozilla or similar it was in my case. Mozilla saves its mails in a mbox format. However, in a peculiar one with Windows line endings, so you have to get rid of the CR for example using tr. Voila the converted mbox files. This may do the trick. I have no particular need to filter the messages. Rather, if I can simply make them available to browse in mutt, this will be fine. A good weekend project ahead of me. Thanks! -- John P. Verel Living Proof That Low Tech Beats High Tech!
Re: How to convert Outlook *.pst files to mbox format?
* Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-09 19:18 -0700]:
Gerhard Häring wrote:
* John P Verel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-09 21:41 -0400]:
This may be an FAQ, but I couldn't come up with it.
I have substantial *.pst files from Microsoft Outlook from work
which I want to convert to mbox format. Any pointers on this will
be gratefully appreciated.
I've done that recently. I used Mozilla on Windows to import the PST
files. Then hunted down where Mozilla actually has his files.
c:/Documents and Settings//AppData/Mozilla or similar it was in my
case. Mozilla saves its mails in a mbox format. However, in a peculiar
one with Windows line endings, so you have to get rid of the CR for
example using tr. Voila the converted mbox files.
if you have access to an IMAP server (or even if you can temporarily
install one on the machine you're running mutt on), you could use
outlook to copy the files to an IMAP server;
The problem was that I was without an ISP at home for some time, so I
downloaded mails at work into Outlook/MS Exchange. When I got internet
again at home, I wanted to transfer the messages and import it into my
IMAP/procmail setup at home.
Unfortunately, I can't access the German MS Exchange server at work
reasonably with anything besides Outlook. All other IMAP clients choke
on the folder names that contain German umlauts or spaces. For some
reason, Exchange uses a weird encoding for these :-(
Gerhard
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Re: Sending mail to a recipient
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 12:50:49AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep, I have just looked into and sucessfully installed lbdb, it was just what I was looking for. However I have to pass a query string to lbdb, so I am just working out how to display all entries in the system. I have installed lbdb and don't see how it helps. Is it just for external queries or can it extract addresses from received e-mails as well? I can't seem to get it to do either. Is there a site that explains how to use this tool in depth. I'd especially like it to grab addresses from my Palm Pilot. I tried http://www.spinnaker.de/lbdb, but I didn't find it very helpful. Any suggestions? -R -- Robert S Conde PGP Key: 0xE94C96E3 msg26956/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
