Re: [OT] Vim
--mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Ken Weingold spake thus: On Mon, Aug 26, 2002, Kai Weber wrote: + Ken Weingold [EMAIL PROTECTED]: =20 Yeah, but with procmail I can send them to /dev/null. With Spamassassin they go to my spam folder for review. =20 You can use procmail to filter the spamassasin'ated mails to /dev/null, too. =20 I would never do that. Sometimes Spamassassin catches real mail as spam. blacklisting adds 100 to the score. All you really have to do is set your procmail rules so that mails with a score over 90 are sent to /dev/null, and mails with less are sent to your spam folder. Then you get pretty much the best of both worlds. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/ -- All I ask of life is a constant and exaggerated sense of my own importance. --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9azhwPTh2iSBKeccRAuXhAJ9EcIrhiFouSpuHdCZglHSrcwdQSwCfQ4yf MwDXfxdUEKUH22GsiZEKWZc= =dOmP -END PGP SIGNATURE- --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ--
Re: [OT] Vim
--cvVnyQ+4j833TQvp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Michael Leone spake thus: it's been my experience that the latest SA (v2.31) is much better at=20 distinguishing real mail from spam than earlier version. And v2.40 is due Really Really Soon Now, they say. I've been using v 2.31 for a couple weeks now and I've seen *NO* troubles with it. It has caught every spam, and allowed every real message that I've gotten so far. I only get 50 to 100 emails per day, unlike some people here, but a 0% failure rate is pretty good, no? --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/ -- Unix will self-destruct in five seconds... 4... 3... 2... 1... --cvVnyQ+4j833TQvp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9azjrPTh2iSBKeccRAmD5AJ9lyM+dDEvgfhDIK1GwqAoVQjwBTwCfVNw8 a7hYoxjAAtkFIMyYbzvkins= =jctu -END PGP SIGNATURE- --cvVnyQ+4j833TQvp--
Re: mutt/vim compose-new-mail macro
--EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Russell Hoover spake thus: How do I put vim's 'O' command into a this macro so that it does what I want? Just set your editor to be '/usr/bin/vi +O' and it will automatically do whatever the O key does when vim launches. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/ -- Your password is pitifully obvious. --EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9amD4PTh2iSBKeccRAq6NAJ94X63v9lPSjJJFAkQEHTELd7CumwCdF8gK Q1ZPi0bYDGwR41dV7fFxYRs= =CCwn -END PGP SIGNATURE- --EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU--
Re: Custom header as output of a script?
--Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Steve Wollkind spake thus: Is there any way to do this? Backticks. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/ -- Always there remain portions of our heart into which no one is able to ente= r, invite them as we may. --Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9abUQPTh2iSBKeccRAtb8AJ4u3G+eDFzCUgqepSkb7y40G0gSnwCeP2oO 2hYWw2buWPB17WhVq/pA/d0= =Bjzu -END PGP SIGNATURE- --Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE--
Re: Reducing duplication
--EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! David T-G spake thus: % So what I want to know is, is there a way to get mutt to save messages % to sent-mail only if it's not addressed to a mailing list that I'm % subscribed to? =20 I don't think you'll be able to do it except with long fcc-hook rules, which means you probably want to parse your muttrc file(s) to generate them. Something like =20 fcc-hook . =3D%O# store in original target fcc-hook mutt-users /dev/null fcc-hook lfs-general /dev/null fcc-hook yetanotherlist /dev/null ... =20 and so you'd be sure to write your subscribe line so that the list To: address matched so that you could parse it out. That ought to be easy. I'm already using a perl script to generate my muttrc, all I have to do is take my 'subscribe' array and use it in the fcc hooks ;) Personally I think it would be easier to just let mutt write the fcc as usual but make =3Dmutt-users a symlink to /dev/null for each target addre= ss whose mail you don't want to store. Then, again, I'm the kind that keeps his outgoing posts regardless of whether or not I keep the incoming version :-) Huh? You want me to make a file that's either a file or a symlink depending on what's accessing it? --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/ -- You've got to have a gimmick if your band sucks. -- Gary Giddens --EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9Y+x6PTh2iSBKeccRAuMWAJwI2Gm2YRXyKNkmUIxaLcBSmgXq5wCfRJae 6BqJjJ+17VAdC01yWAORz3Y= =SfJm -END PGP SIGNATURE- --EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm--
Re: Reducing duplication
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Alas! David T-G spake thus:
I don't think you'll be able to do it except with long fcc-hook rules,
which means you probably want to parse your muttrc file(s) to generate
them. Something like
=20
fcc-hook . =3D%O# store in original target
fcc-hook mutt-users /dev/null
fcc-hook lfs-general /dev/null
fcc-hook yetanotherlist /dev/null
...
=20
and so you'd be sure to write your subscribe line so that the list To:
address matched so that you could parse it out.
I managed to get it working like this:
foreach my $ml (subscribe)
{
print fcc-hook $ml /dev/null\n;
}
print fcc-hook . =3Darchives/$datestring-sent-mail\n;
Thanks ;)
--=20
Rob 'Feztaa' Park
http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/
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Reducing duplication
Hey all ;) I have a bit of a problem -- When I send a mailing list, one copy of the message is stored in my sent-mail mbox, and then another copy is stored in that ml's mbox when I get it off the list again. The problem is that I've written an mbox parsing utility (for the purposes of reporting statistics), and there is a huge amount of duplication in my own mails. So what I want to know is, is there a way to get mutt to save messages to sent-mail only if it's not addressed to a mailing list that I'm subscribed to? -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/ -- Darth Vader sleeps with a Teddywookie. msg30377/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Reducing duplication
--OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! darren chamberlain spake thus: * Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-08-20 16:22]: The problem is that I've written an mbox parsing utility (for the purposes of reporting statistics), and there is a huge amount of duplication in my own mails. =20 So what I want to know is, is there a way to get mutt to save messages to sent-mail only if it's not addressed to a mailing list that I'm subscribed to? =20 Why not do it in the script? The mailing list folders and sent-mail folders serve fundamentally different purposes; why intermix them? Keep a hash table of message ids in the script, and process the message the first time you see it only. I do, though. For every message id, I keep track of how many times the script encountered it. I also have 'total' and 'unique' counts for every person, mbox, date, and MUA. The problem is that the 'total' count of all of my messages is nearly 1,000 greater than the 'unique' count, which really bothers me (it looks ugly in the statistics, not to mention that the duplication is a waste of disk space). Maybe I'm crazy, but it just seems silly and inefficient to keep copies of my ml messages in two places. Or skip your sent-mail folder altogether. I wanted to avoid this for portability; if I just skip my own sent mail folder, then I'm limiting the script to my own machine. I want it to work for other people as well ;) --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/ -- Space tells matter how to move and matter tells space how to curve. -- Wheeler --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9YrUvPTh2iSBKeccRAhZHAJ95hgdHC3Qyj7xWhB3coMRm5V6xMgCeIDLO rPkgQV1jjnKI+dFdsGJeY5o= =d/t0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY--
Re: Mutt color limitations
--Pk6IbRAofICFmK5e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Lee J. Moore spake thus: I've got one ugly mutt here atm. ;( I seem to be able to get by with only 8 colors. Although, I did implement the hack that lets you have a 256 color xterm... and it worked, because the test programs were printing all wild color shizzit... but I can't for the life of me figure out how to make any of my applications *use* those extra colors, so the 256 colors are useless ;) --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/ -- Satire is what closes Saturday night. -- George Kaufman --Pk6IbRAofICFmK5e Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9YtyrPTh2iSBKeccRAlN3AJ4sXR/aWX3tko+qMCY/BAysTF8wJgCfSREJ zpmNmL5lk89d2LUVZA81yDM= =wm9s -END PGP SIGNATURE- --Pk6IbRAofICFmK5e--
Re: Colapse thread
--45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Derrick 'dman' Hudson spake thus: On Sat, Aug 10, 2002 at 06:25:30PM +0200, Martin Schweizer wrote: | Hello |=20 | If I colapse threats there is always a =C0=C4 at the begin of the su= bject=20 | line. Where is this character problem? | I use FreeBSD 4.6, Mutt 1.2.5i and LC_ALL=3Dde_DE.ISO_8859-1. What I'm = doing=20 | wrong? =20 It means your terminal doesn't support the extended drawing characters. The solution is to either switch terminals or to set 'ascii_chars' in your .muttrc. (the ascii_chars aren't as pretty, but are functional) In my experience, gnome-terminal (1.4) requires using 'ascii_chars', but the linux console and xterm support the extended drawing characters. I could also depend on the value of $TERM, even if you're using a good terminal it might not work. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/ -- A celebrity is a person who is known for his well-knownness. --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9VcYmPTh2iSBKeccRAntLAJ9Q31e6ChKzc9WDuPQ9KNOQBr6LUgCfXQGO A2KERh2xGPcj69dpeD6iv+g= =Yn1b -END PGP SIGNATURE- --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq--
Re: Automatic save-hooks? - procmail
--ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Chris Stork spake thus: (I use procmail already to filter my mail. But the emails I'm talking about arrive rarely and I could miss them if they were presorted.) Then what you need is a system in which it's impossible to miss presorted mail. Unless you want to put in a save-hook for every value of SENDERSPECIFIC, then procmail is *definitely* the way to go here. Personally, I use mbox hooks that are generated automatically for all of my mboxes (my muttrc is a perl script). Then I have my index format set to display the filesizes of each mbox. The result is that all my old mail is stored in ~/mail/archives/-MM-mboxname, all my new mail is stored in ~/mail/mboxname, and if I see any mboxes with a nonzero size, I know they contain new mail. Trust me, in a list of 0's, a 4 to 6 digit number really stands out. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/ -- Pilfering Treasury property is paticularly dangerous: big thieves are ruthless in punishing little thieves. -- Diogenes --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9TLciPTh2iSBKeccRAp3zAJ48HO6QejaoLj6oSeYa0EdboErpigCggvmV aRW/oDYw2IoC14m8Y2lv5hI= =AB5j -END PGP SIGNATURE- --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH--
Re: categorizing muttrc
--8P1HSweYDcXXzwPJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Russell L. Harris spake thus: I am a mutt newbie. It seems to me that configuration of mutt would be= =20 easier if: =20 * muttrc contains the entire set of mutt configuration variables (variabl= es=20 not applicable to the particular installation may be commented out, using= #) I disagree. Mutt has manuals for a reason. Plus there are scores of people who have their muttrc's online that you can read for examples. * the configuration variables are grouped in categories, such as the=20 following (this list is incomplete): =20 user interface message composition attachments file copy of messages message headers message display message transmission message printing mailboxes address qualification user personalities encryption ssl message piping message scoring message signatures searching sorting MIME mixmaster POP IMAP MH aliases =20 * each variable would be accompanied by a brief comment regarding=20 applicability and proper usage =20 Are there drawbacks to such a scheme? Would anyone be interested in=20 posting a copy of the commented configuration file? Would this project= =20 have the blessing of the author of mutt? Drawbacks: - the documentation would have to be rewritten - there wouldn't really be a benefit because if you're searching for something, you can just search for the keywords, no grouping necessary. - etc, I guess. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/ -- Warning: Listening to WXRT on April Fools' Day is not recommended for those who are slightly disoriented the first few hours after waking up. -- Chicago Reader 4/22/83 --8P1HSweYDcXXzwPJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9RjW2PTh2iSBKeccRAoCyAJ0TAnhttPrrTQBmUkM2fA/K6NZvUwCggKD4 HrCryKprablJFBPCjz7l/s8= =KaHP -END PGP SIGNATURE- --8P1HSweYDcXXzwPJ--
Re: Multiple accounts with mutt?
--XMCwj5IQnwKtuyBG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Brad Knowles spake thus: Folks, =20 I've gone through the FAQ and searched for answers to this question, but still haven't been able to find anything that was able to help. =20 What I'd like to do is use mutt at one place to allow me to access my mail for various accounts (at the moment, one personal account via POP3, one work account via IMAP-over-SSL, and one local customer account). It's not hard to figure out how to get mutt to handle any one of these accounts, but how can I get it to handle all three? First, install fetchmail so that it downloads all your mail from all your accounts, and install procmail so that your mail from different accounts is stored in different folders. After that, set up folder-hooks so that entering each folder changes the whatever is necessary for that account (from address, signature, whatever).=20 The end result will be that each folder becomes a new account for you to use.=20 It is possible to achieve a much more flexible result than this, but it's just something to get you started. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/ -- Youth is when you blame all your troubles on your parents; maturity is when you learn that everything is the fault of the younger generation. --XMCwj5IQnwKtuyBG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9RzmZPTh2iSBKeccRArq5AJ9Dsya4kfDtGSzT2Tp0BgnnQ7beCwCdHNGS q/alPhqgzdxc0FG3S2C708Y= =q2hR -END PGP SIGNATURE- --XMCwj5IQnwKtuyBG--
Re: spam filter
--gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Andre Berger spake thus: By the way, what would an exmaple procmail rule to add a sender to the spamassassin blacklist look like? Probably something along the lines of this (but I'm a little rusty; the flags are probably wrong): :0 Wh: * some spam heuristic, like all caps subject lines |grep ^From: |some sed to extract info from the header killfile :0 a: spamfolder --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/ -- No manual is ever necessary. May I politely interject here: BULLSHIT. That's the biggest Apple lie of a= ll! (Discussion in comp.os.linux.misc on the intuitiveness of interfaces.) --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9RapcPTh2iSBKeccRAjxvAJ9QcUrn01wo6OmLHjRGLBTlAmc9ygCePIBA +Z6GPH9E8xtn4bumHalWuhQ= =Gvhc -END PGP SIGNATURE- --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy--
Re: magic crystals (was: PGP getkeys)
--LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Patrick spake thus: Although english is not his native language Really? Could have fooled me. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/ -- If you want to see useful Perl examples, we can certainly arrange to have comp.lang.misc flooded with them, but I don't think that would help the advance of civilization. :-) -- Larry Wall in [EMAIL PROTECTED] --LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9RKTBPTh2iSBKeccRAkNiAJ9BLCYkxSydQSt+RVK1KmzdC/5JtQCePAke mW3U9OHiBrEcBQ3Nt+o0btU= =9wy0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp--
Re: spam filter
Alas! Iain Truskett spake thus: * Patrick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [29 Jul 2002 12:02]: * Andre Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [07-28-02 20:46]: [...] This would be better accomplished by procmail, since this is one of it's intended uses. Use mutt to read/respond to email. If one is adding to a kill file, I personally would prefer it to be done in mutt (e.g. piped to another program while reading) just in case of false positives. If you're worried about false positives, have it add the names to a 'dormant' killfile, ie one that is not in use. Then, periodically, you can check the 'dormant' killfile for innocents, and if there aren't any, you can merge it into the real killfile that is actually in use on your system. But this is not mutt's job, either way. -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/ -- Democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time. -- Winston Churchill msg29933/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Header color - color header fg bg regexp
--VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Thomas Dickey spake thus: On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 02:35:34PM -0700, John Iverson wrote: I think he means that this command is only coloring to the end of the last word in the header and not all the way to the end of the line on his screen. I noticed this behavior before, too, and when I switched from ncurses to s-lang, it started doing the whole line. =20 It may depend on terminal settings or something else, too? =20 either that (not choosing a terminal type that tells whether it can clear using the background color), or one of the cases where mutt doesn't setup the curses calls properly This has come up before; I could be wrong, but I thought the general consensus was that ncurses won't do the whole line, while slang does. Maybe I'm imagining things, though ;) --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/ -- A university is what a college becomes when the faculty loses interest in students. -- John Ciardi --VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9QH8SPTh2iSBKeccRAj/bAJsHnbaH35du2pstfax2mlXbf42MYwCdHQE+ xyjP2PB/jGgeR9E1vQdu4dE= =xUmd -END PGP SIGNATURE- --VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb--
Re: bouncing w/ mutt-1.3.28i
--Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Derrick 'dman' Hudson spake thus: On Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 05:58:01AM -0500, David T-G wrote: It's a crude, but effective, loop detection mechanism (mentioned in RFC 821 as well). When the MTA sees what it thinks is an excessive number of Received: headers it figures a mail loop has occured and bounces the message instead. Wouldn't it be more effective to check the Received headers to see if it's gone through the same server twice, and /then/ bounce the mail? It's not a mail loop if it just has a lot of servers to go through. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/ -- Today is the last day of your life so far. --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9M3RtPTh2iSBKeccRAlo6AJ4uxO4NQ6okJb2xKULPkOspAgsEkwCeOCXD 7yp0u8W1hcOFrgqtyXxxA9A= =qtH2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q--
Re: Mutt users ml downloadable archives
--+QahgC5+KEYLbs62 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! David Champion spake thus: * On 2002.07.09, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], * Nicolas Rachinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: =20 But the compressed file is about 12MB and the uncompressed about 85MB. =20 Well, I compressed it as much as I could -- oh, maybe you meant to point out my typo... yes, it's megabytes, not gigabytes. I get confused these latter days. I mean, a 200 MB disk is huuuge, right? :) Whew, thank god that was only a typo. I have a nearly-complete archive of everything since November 2001, and it's only 4.8 MBs (roughly). What could you guys /possibly/ have sent to the list before I got here? ;) --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/ -- Snow White has become a camera buff. She spends hours and hours shooting pictures of the seven dwarfs and their antics. Then she mails the exposed film to a cut rate photo service. It takes weeks for the developed film to arrive in the mail, but that is all right with Snow White. She clears the table, washes the dishes and sweeps the floor, all the while singing Someday my prints will come. --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9K5vcPTh2iSBKeccRAuCXAJ9d+DmfKMINPp28I9t8WFHEiLTluwCgg8yV tjcQhMJ+KR2dS+kZ1RMcg18= =/grh -END PGP SIGNATURE- --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62--
Re: Signature
--5vNYLRcllDrimb99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Nelson D. Guerrero spake thus: [08/07/2002] - Rob Reid - [mutt-users]:=20 One way would be to install post mode for emacs: =20 http://astro.utoronto.ca/~reid/mutt/ =20 --=20 Half the lies the opponents tell about us are not true. - Sir Boyle Roc= he Robert I. Reid | PGP/GPG Keys: http://astro.utoronto.ca/~reid/pgp.html =20 I'm currentlly using VIM as my editor. Then do some RTFMing and find out how to make vim automatically delete it whenever you start vim on an email. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/ -- The longer the title, the less important the job. --5vNYLRcllDrimb99 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9Kj5BPTh2iSBKeccRAt8iAJ9H70Eu62JkecXNGIdF4DpK1KDlHQCaAgSM qxTLg8rLFAamP4ZarIHW05o= =55+6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --5vNYLRcllDrimb99--
Re: Deleting portions of large mail folders
Alas! Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. spake thus: On Fri, 05 Jul 2002, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: Alas! Wayne Chapeskie spake thus: snip You see, I don't have a .muttrc. I have a perl script that generates my .muttrc for me, every time mutt is run. It automatically detects all my mboxes, and writes mbox hooks for them ;) mind sharing it ? you can send it to me offlist if you want. I'd rather not. It's highly specific to my system and my tastes. It would be totally worthless to you in anything but concept. You're probably better off making your own. You don't have to use perl ;) -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/ -- When a woman becomes a scholar, there is usually something wrong with her sexual organs. -- Friedrich Nietzsche msg29417/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Deleting portions of large mail folders
--FCuugMFkClbJLl1L Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Wayne Chapeskie spake thus: On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 01:20:01PM -0600, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: * because of the wonderful mbox-hooks, every time I leave a folder, all the mails I read are moved into the appropriate archive folder. =20 Do you have an example of how you set up the mbox-hooks automatically? I'm assuming a bunch of lines of the form mutt-hook =3Dmutt-dev =3Darchives/2002-07-mutt-dev but I'm not quite sure how to get get the year and date in there automatically, since I doubt you update your .muttrc every month. You could try this: mbox-hook =3Dinbox =3Darchives/`date +%Y-%m`-inbox But it gets better! Lets say I unsubscribe from one list and subscribe to another... I don't even have to make a new mbox-hook, or delete the old one! ;) You see, I don't have a .muttrc. I have a perl script that generates my =2Emuttrc for me, every time mutt is run. It automatically detects all my mboxes, and writes mbox hooks for them ;) --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/ -- Bureau Termination, Law of: When a government bureau is scheduled to be phased out, the number of employees in that bureau will double within 12 months after the decision is made. --FCuugMFkClbJLl1L Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9JeyxPTh2iSBKeccRAoDcAJ9EwGlZajocjJB9KRrAN0/BRmvTlQCfeQBb kdG198Doc6b4HOO031Mv4ww= =ZMbu -END PGP SIGNATURE- --FCuugMFkClbJLl1L--
Re: Deleting portions of large mail folders
--YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Wayne Chapeskie spake thus: How do the rest of you handle cleaning out really big mail folders? Don't let them get that big in the first place! :P Really. My mail setup looks like this: feztaa@feztron:/home/feztaa/mail$ ls -R =2E: alfs-discuss cron lfs-dev mutt-users wftl-lug archives fetchmail-friends lfs-security netmd-dev blfs-dev inbox lfs-support spam blfs-support lfs-chat mutt-dev wftl-announce =2E/archives: 2001-11-bugtraq.bz22002-04-lfs-security.bz2 2001-11-inbox.bz2 2002-04-lfs-support.bz2 2001-11-marcel-gagne.bz2 2002-04-marcel-gagne.bz2 2001-11-mutt.bz2 2002-04-mutt.bz2 2001-11-rewt.bz2 2002-04-sent-mail.bz2 2001-11-sent-mail.bz2 2002-04-spam.bz2 2001-11-spam.bz2 2002-04-wftl-announce.bz2 2001-12-bugtraq.bz22002-04-wftl-lug.bz2 2001-12-important.bz2 2002-05-alfs-discuss.bz2 2001-12-inbox.bz2 2002-05-blfs-dev.bz2 2001-12-marcel-gagne.bz2 2002-05-blfs-support.bz2 2001-12-mplayer.bz22002-05-cron.bz2 2001-12-mutt.bz2 2002-05-fetchmail-friends.bz2 2001-12-sent-mail.bz2 2002-05-inbox.bz2 2001-12-spam.bz2 2002-05-lfs-chat.bz2 2002-01-blfs-support.bz2 2002-05-lfs-dev.bz2 2002-01-bugtraq.bz22002-05-lfs-security.bz2 2002-01-fetchmail.bz2 2002-05-lfs-support.bz2 2002-01-inbox.bz2 2002-05-mutt.bz2 2002-01-lfs-support.bz22002-05-mutt-users.bz2 2002-01-marcel-gagne.bz2 2002-05-sent-mail.bz2 2002-01-mutt.bz2 2002-05-spam.bz2 2002-01-sent-mail.bz2 2002-05-wftl-announce.bz2 2002-01-spam.bz2 2002-05-wftl-lug.bz2 2002-02-blfs-support.bz2 2002-06-alfs-discuss.bz2 2002-02-fetchmail.bz2 2002-06-blfs-dev.bz2 2002-02-important.bz2 2002-06-blfs-support.bz2 2002-02-inbox.bz2 2002-06-cron.bz2 2002-02-lfs-support.bz22002-06-fetchmail-friends.bz2 2002-02-marcel-gagne.bz2 2002-06-inbox.bz2 2002-02-mutt.bz2 2002-06-lfs-chat.bz2 2002-02-sent-mail.bz2 2002-06-lfs-dev.bz2 2002-02-spam.bz2 2002-06-lfs-security.bz2 2002-03-blfs-support.bz2 2002-06-lfs-support.bz2 2002-03-duplicates.bz2 2002-06-mutt-dev.bz2 2002-03-fetchmail.bz2 2002-06-mutt-users.bz2 2002-03-inbox.bz2 2002-06-netmd-dev.bz2 2002-03-lfs-chat.bz2 2002-06-sent-mail.bz2 2002-03-lfs-support.bz22002-06-spam.bz2 2002-03-marcel-gagne.bz2 2002-06-wftl-announce.bz2 2002-03-mutt.bz2 2002-06-wftl-lug.bz2 2002-03-sent-mail.bz2 2002-07-blfs-dev 2002-03-spam.bz2 2002-07-blfs-support 2002-04-alfs-discuss.bz2 2002-07-cron 2002-04-blfs-dev.bz2 2002-07-inbox 2002-04-blfs-support.bz2 2002-07-lfs-chat 2002-04-cron.bz2 2002-07-lfs-dev 2002-04-fetchmail-friends.bz2 2002-07-lfs-support 2002-04-important.bz2 2002-07-mutt-users 2002-04-inbox.bz2 2002-07-netmd-dev 2002-04-lfs-chat.bz2 2002-07-sent-mail 2002-04-lfs-dev.bz22002-07-spam So as you can see, I have a bunch of mailboxes, and a monthly archive of each mailbox. My system may look cumbersome and hard to work with, but really it's not because of these things: * procmail automatically detects mailing lists and sorts them into appropriate folders. I don't have a single procmail rule that is specific to any one mailing list. * mutt automatically detects mboxes and sets up the mbox-hooks accordingly.=20 * because of the wonderful mbox-hooks, every time I leave a folder, all the mails I read are moved into the appropriate archive folder. * a script that I run from cron every month automatically compresses the old mboxes that are archived. So basically all I have to do is read my email everyday (not even -- I just have to mark it as read if I don't want to read it), and my computer does the rest of the work for me ;) Each archived mbox contains a month's mail from that particular list; obviously the amount of mail in each mbox depends on list traffic for that month, but generally no mbox ever exceeds 1000 mails (though there are at least a couple that have 1500 ;) Oh yeah, and one really great part of this system: Since any read mail in an mbox is automatically moved out, and mail that exists in an mbox is by definition, unread. So when I'm looking at my index, the size of the mbox becomes the new mail indicator: zero for no mail, nonzero for new mail. It works really well for me. YMMV. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/ -- Lost: gray and white female cat. Answers to electric can opener. --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline
Re: Passing muttrc format strings to bash
Alas! Lee J. Moore spake thus: Is this possible or impossible? I switched to Maildir a couple of months ago after years of using mbox and I finally got around to completely rewriting my muttrc to try to take advantage of Maildirs different little quirks. In the index_format (muttrc) variable, I'd like to pass each of my sub-Maildir's to a bash script so that I can calculate the new, deleted and total number of messages - for each sub-Maildir - and put it in the message index. However, when I call my bash script, the %f (of course) isn't being expanded. If, in my index_format, I have this: `~/bin/maildir-count ~/Maildir/%f` ...it's actually, ~/Maildir/%f and *not* ~/Maildir/submaildir that's being passed to the bash script. Well, yeah. The backticks are being evaluated when mutt starts, not when viewing a folder. So of course, %f cannot be expanded because mutt can't possibly know what it is. -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/ -- It's simply unbelievable how much energy and creativity people have invested into creating contradictory, bogus and stupid licenses... --- Sven Rudolph about licences in debian/non-free. msg29319/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: unread flag in folder view
--wac7ysb48OaltWcw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Aragon Gouveia spake thus: Does anyone know how to have Mutt display a 'U' flag in the folder view i= f a mail folder has unread messages? There's no folder_format format string f= or it, so I was hoping someone could help me add it to the source. I really = suck at C :/ but I'm guessing it needs to be added in browser.c. This isn't going to happen, but you can do this instead: set up mbox hooks for all of your folders, possibly like this: mbox-hook =3Dinbox =3Darchives/inbox That way, when you look in the index, any folder with a nonzero size contains mail. It works really well for me. Also, if you're clever you could set up the mbox-hook to embed the date into the name of the archive folder, and you would automagically be organizing all your mail by date (usually you'd only want to use the month and year for this...). And if you're even more clever (like me), you could set up your muttrc to automatically search for and setup the mbox hooks, so that if you make a new folder, you don't have to edit your muttrc file ;) --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/ -- With Congress, every time they make a joke it's a law; and every time they make a law it's a joke. -- Will Rogers --wac7ysb48OaltWcw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9H78HPTh2iSBKeccRApsBAJ9O2SAeFr3FqQBz8FuH4fv8fozYDgCfXsVG AgAo9TEEnU47p7zgEH1ScHA= =68y7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --wac7ysb48OaltWcw--
Re: random header script?
--r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Ken Weingold spake thus: Okay, so here's a purely aesthetic question. Using send-hook works just fine, but it puts the header after all my my_hdr's. Anyway to get it before them? Possibly, use send hooks for all your other my_hdr's too (put them after this one). Would be inefficient, but it would get your X-message-flag before them instead of after, afaict. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/ -- The lawgiver, of all beings, most owes the law allegiance. He of all men should behave as though the law compelled him. But it is the universal weakness of mankind that what we are given to administer we presently imagi= ne we own. -- H.G. Wells --r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9EzfVPTh2iSBKeccRAk05AJ9WMu4MxUGYZ0vZrA+6sn1nne0L1gCeLVU7 PvZypPL1nlJfzrPuvDv/1b8= =Um4e -END PGP SIGNATURE- --r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3--
Re: random header script?
Alas! Ken Weingold spake thus:
I think I remember a while back someone haveing a script to take lines
randomly from a text file to put into a custom header. Does anyone
have this? Basically I want to insert into that Outhouse header
random lines from a text file I made from the Surrealist Compliment
Generator. :)
This is trivial to do in perl:
open FILE, file.txt;
while (FILE)
{
push lines, $_;
}
print $lines[int(rand(lines))];
(it's untested, but it probably works). Of course, you'll have to modify
it to output the appropriate email header and whatnot.
--
Rob 'Feztaa' Park
http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/
--
Kiss me twice. I'm schizophrenic.
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Alas! Dan Boger spake thus:
On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 02:49:37PM -0600, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:
This is trivial to do in perl:
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open FILE, file.txt;
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while (FILE)
{
push lines, $_;
}
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print $lines[int(rand(lines))];
=20
or, the more efficient way:
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open FILE, file.txt or die $!;
rand($.) 1 ($line =3D $_) while FILE;
close FILE;
print $line;
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from perldoc -q random
Sure, that works; but you can't repeat it without rewinding to the
beginning of the file. With mine, you can call that print statement as
many times as you want ;)
--=20
Rob 'Feztaa' Park
http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/
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Q: What's the difference between a Mac and an Etch-a-Sketch?
A: You don't have to shake the Mac to clear the screen.
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Re: Dealing with top-posters in Mutt/Vim?
--Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! David T-G spake thus: Rob, et al -- =20 [Even if Sean sent to gbnet.net that doesn't mean you should, young man.] Nah, I let mutt figure out where to send the reply. I have better things to do ;) % algorithms, there is *no*way* that you can correct TOFU. Your best bet % is to just make a vim macro that copies all the text from before the % quote to after the quote. =20 And how is that not a good start, and a programmatic one at that? It doesn't really acomplish much; just changes TOFU into TUFO. Unfortunately, it doesn't *really* solve the problem, since now you have a huge bottom-post (not necessarily a huge-bottom post, though coincidence isn't ruled out ;-) and still have to clean it up. And you thought TOFU tasted bad ;) My answer to top-posters is to go to the first of their quoted lines and delete from there to my sig and then reply in context. Too bad if they don't like it :-) The entire TOFU mentality can, I believe, be summed up as 1) throw away all but the most recent message (assuming you keep any in the first place) in the thread, since the entire thread is self-contained, and 2) if anyone is new s/he will easily be able to read the whole thread and catch up. I don't subscribe to either of those viewpoints. I'm #1. Keep the TO, nuke the FU. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/ -- Delay not, Caesar. Read it instantly. -- Shakespeare, Julius Caesar 3,1 =20 Here is a letter, read it at your leisure. -- Shakespeare, Merchant of Venice 5,1 =20 [Quoted in VMS Internals and Data Structures, V4.4, when referring to I/O system services.] --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9Bn8UPTh2iSBKeccRAt9rAJ48pFdSMl/BoPYypN+Q9LXcY8QOEwCfcUGT TuHF5cXGwOpQY84svAyNIDM= =S770 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi--
Re: TOFU
--1UWUbFP1cBYEclgG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Rocco Rutte spake thus: Hi, =20 * Rob 'Feztaa' Park [2002-06-06 08:15:32 CEST] wrote: =20 What's wrong with TOFU? =20 Text Over Fullquote Underneath. =20 Well, I don't know if ``TOFU'' refers to the same terrible tasting kind of plastic over at your location, too. So, here (in .de) it has at least 2 different meanings which need not to be true for other locations. =20 To make it short: ``Text Above the Fullquote Underneath'' sounds a lot better, but since a few lusers won't understand it either, I chose TOFU (as a term, not as prefered practise and not as a replacement for whatever TOFU tries to replace) ... Well, when I asked what's wrong with TOFU, I was asking why TAFU was suggested for english instead of the original TOFU. I've never eaten tofu, and I don't intend to soon. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/ -- Applause, n: The echo of a platitude from the mouth of a fool. -- Ambrose Bierce --1UWUbFP1cBYEclgG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8/wJ5PTh2iSBKeccRAinrAKCFFe+hYuLv6zfvN5SEyb4Q88QtfACeLJsf kIe5q/4B4QhqUqRLJp8cd/8= =QqO5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --1UWUbFP1cBYEclgG--
Re: TOFU
--PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Michael Tatge spake thus: Rocco Rutte ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: So, there's no real equivalent term outside .de, I guess? =20 None that I know of. What about TAFU? Text Above Fullquote Underneath. ;) What's wrong with TOFU? Text Over Fullquote Underneath. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/ -- I worked in a health food store once. A guy came in and asked me, If I melt dry ice, can I take a bath without getting wet? -- Steven Wright --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8/v4DPTh2iSBKeccRAsQsAJ0bwMLYRCShD/g/jB71sgi5TIMQpACdEXfG j2bozMudCTQnNi25DVZ0f8E= =G7Js -END PGP SIGNATURE- --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr--
Re: TOFU and the ELQ
--+g7M9IMkV8truYOl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! David T-G spake thus: That's great, because I've thought for a long that something like =20 % here is some text % and a comment % and some more % you said it what? =20 is much more difficult to read than the original expanded version. That's why I started putting blank lines between the original body=20 and my reply after only a few months of replying the scrunched-up way. FWIW, I don't use color and so retorts like but it's green and then blue and then green again; it's obvious! are fairly unproductive. But it's yellow then red then yellow then green then white! it's obvious! ;) Actually, even with different colors I find it hard to read. I think that the way I quote is perfect; you should all follow my example ;) --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/ -- Ignorance is never out of style. It was in fashion yesterday, it is the rage today, and it will set the pace tomorrow. -- Franklin K. Dane --+g7M9IMkV8truYOl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8/TeYPTh2iSBKeccRApilAJ9vxBfY3iUPivcklpBcPrPP5OILAQCfesPP L5RqURw8Xi/LLCS5OSIIWNs= =vZLg -END PGP SIGNATURE- --+g7M9IMkV8truYOl--
Re: TOFU and the ELQ
--FCuugMFkClbJLl1L Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! David T-G spake thus: Rob -- =20 ...and then Feztaa said... =20 Alas! David T-G spake thus: That's great, because I've thought for a long that something like =20 This part is kind of a pain; you should skip a line like I do. Other than that... You mean like this?: Blah No, that wouldn't be kosher. But it's yellow then red then yellow then green then white! it's obvious! ;) =20 Oh, well, *that* makes a difference. But of course ;) Actually, even with different colors I find it hard to read. I think that the way I quote is perfect; you should all follow my example ;) =20 It seems that we are of fairly like mind. If you'd only leave a line below your 'Alas!' at the top and switch to the One True Indent Char then you'd have it all wrapped up! No, a space after the attribution looks weird. And I already use the OTIC ;) =20 --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/ quoting a sig? For shame, sir, for shame... ;) --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/ -- What good is a ticket to the good life, if you can't find the entrance? --FCuugMFkClbJLl1L Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8/UGpPTh2iSBKeccRAiffAJ0birQVz9dLthQ7HCvJkVyzmOFQdQCcC69W A4Ni5jOEZIuUbdm9DkRMREY= =75mH -END PGP SIGNATURE- --FCuugMFkClbJLl1L--
Re: Putting finishing touches on mutt
--ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Andy Saxena spake thus: Hmmm... I have seen this said a few times, however I don't see an =3D sign in front of the mail folders. I use the mbox format; and $folder is set to ~/Mail. =3D is just shorthand for $folder; without =3D, your mboxes could be put anywhere; using =3D makes all your mboxes stay in the $folder. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/ -- Time as he grows old teaches all things. -- Aeschylus --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE87k3SPTh2iSBKeccRAsRCAJ0XyY1OY5+/T6B5KieYfEzMhSmc7ACfe2bJ rs8rmwTGW67xesJzPBOI/Wo= =yF90 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH--
Re: gpg return mangling display
--1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Aaron Goldblatt spake thus: However, when it does so, the display gets mangled and is difficult to=20 read until some times has passed where most parts of the screen have been= =20 redrawn. =20 There is a two-message thread describing this problem at the Marc archive= s=20 of mutt-users, but no solution was ever posted, and I can't find another= =20 thread. Hold down the Control key, then press the L key. You might want to rebind all of the keys which might invoke gpg to also press CTRL-L for you, for convenience (use macros). --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/ -- God is love, but get it in writing. -- Gypsy Rose Lee --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE86YttPTh2iSBKeccRAmByAKCBNsTaU1L7Z1KAwEu29DzE3GnPtgCeJCpP Eubnn62/zEEgcFnbbcTIk6o= =On5r -END PGP SIGNATURE- --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7--
Re: Strange multi-color quoting behavior
--GRPZ8SYKNexpdSJ7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! John Iverson spake thus: why do the following lines show up in different colors? Well, first of all, the colors don't match what you said (at least for me). But I believe that coloring them differently is correct behavior. Since the quote character is different, it's a different quote. It's not part of the same quote. Thus mut uses a different color on it. Shouldn't they all use the quoted (first level) color, since they are all first-level quotes? They may all be first level, but they're all different; thus they deserve different colors. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/ -- I have a dog; I named him Stay. So when I'd go to call him, I'd say, Here, Stay, here... but he got wise to that. Now when I call him he ignores me and just keeps on typing. -- Steven Wright --GRPZ8SYKNexpdSJ7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE84yDXPTh2iSBKeccRAjBxAKCIpYers7I5gUZHvYbj9p5QmIyKyACfdvNW KApM7XsRlx7PLH/lAb+ri8k= =9UfC -END PGP SIGNATURE- --GRPZ8SYKNexpdSJ7--
Re: bind ^H to backward-char in editor
--tsOsTdHNUZQcU9Ye Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Jim Osborn spake thus: On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 07:24:57PM -0700, I wrote: I want to use Control-H to move the cursor to the left in Mutt's=20 line editor, as I have it in all my other tools. =20 The sole response I've had to this question was from someone who thought I was referring to the editor used to write the content of a piece of mail, in his case vi. =20 I'm sorry if I wasn't clear: I'm referring to the editor that manipulates the single line at the bottom of the screen, when, say, you want to edit an address, or the text of a command. As I understand it from the manual, 2.2 Editing Input Fields this line editor is called the editor for purposes of binding functions to it. =20 So, that's what I'm trying to remap Control-H in, THAT editor. What exactly are you referring to when you say ^H? The backspace key? Or the actual ^H character? Because I have no idea how to rebind a character to something, if that's even possible, but you can rebind the backspace key like this: bind editor backspace left Though I'm not sure if that'll work... (untested). --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/ -- Fred noticed his roommate had a black eye upon returning from a dance. What happened? I was struck by the beauty of the place. --tsOsTdHNUZQcU9Ye Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE84ICwPTh2iSBKeccRAjcWAJwJQkjQX8kHO+c0Me8LaGbotaoMxQCfUp9V QGuUyPOmeuxELWJ9glNxIns= =d77r -END PGP SIGNATURE- --tsOsTdHNUZQcU9Ye--
Re: (wish) urlview w/ context?
Alas! Jussi Ekholm spake thus: display-hook ~A'set pager=builtin' display-hook '~s \\[Slashdot\\] Daily Headlines' 'set pager=w3m' display-hook '~s YOUR LINUX TODAY NEWSLETTER''set pager=w3m' Any ideas why Mutt is telling me, that display-hook is an unknown command (or something to that sort)? I'm using 1.5.0.CVS, and your way to handle URL's seemed very nice and I'd really like to take advantage of this in case of Freshmeat's newsletters... I've never heard of a display hook, and it's not in the manual. I think he meant message-hook. -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- question = ( to ) ? be : ! be; -- Wm. Shakespeare msg27816/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Regexes in search?
Alas! Rob Reid spake thus: This is really weird. I'm generating these with a perl script, and if I tell it to print ^$mbox, I'll get something like ^inbox printed, but mutt will interpret that as ^Inbox (a tab and then nbox). But if I tell it to print ^ ^H$mbox, it'll print the same thing but mutt will behave properly. I discovered this recently. The right (easiest) way to quote a ^ in mutt regexps is ^^, because mutt uses ^x for Control-x so it provides ^^ for a simple caret. ^I means control-I, a tab. I know you have a working veresion already, but you shouldn't! ;-) I thought ^ ^H meant control-spacebackspace. It works for me with just ^^blah. Well, since there really is no such thing as control-space, mutt is probably interpreting the ^ as a caret and then a space. And then the backspace deletes the space, which gives me the ^blah that I want, and works properly. I'll try your ^^ suggestion, though. -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Alexander Hamilton started the U.S. Treasury with nothing - and that was the closest our country has ever been to being even. -- The Best of Will Rogers msg27695/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OT: procmail, \/, and mailing lists.
Alas! Ricardo SIGNES spake thus: I do something like this, and use sed. Try something like this (untested): MLIST=`echo $MATCH | sed -e 's/\(foo\|bar\|baz)@qux\.com*/\1/i'` ~/mail/$MLIST This is what I currently have set up, and it catches most lists: :0: * ^List-Id:.*\/[^\.]+ $MAILDIR/$MATCH :0: * ^X-List: \/[-a-zA-Z0-9\.]+ $MAILDIR/$MATCH (for most of the mailing lists I'm on, List-Id is in the form of Foo Bar LUG foobar.server.com, and X-List is in the form of [EMAIL PROTECTED]. So in the case of List-Id, I want to grab everything after the and before the ., and with X-List, I want as much as I can get so long as it's only alphanumeric, periods, or hyphens. Seems to work pretty well for me. -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To get back on your feet, miss two car payments. msg27696/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Regexes in search?
--7ZAtKRhVyVSsbBD2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is it possible to specify some kind of regex in mutt's search feature? The reason I ask is that I've got some mboxes, and a few of them are substrings of some others (ie, foobar is one mbox, and foobarbaz is another), and when I search for foobar, I get foobarbaz, which isn't what I want. I've tried searching for ^foobar$, but it didn't work. Any suggestions? Thanks. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sometimes a man who deserves to be looked down upon because he is a fool is despised only because he is a lawyer. -- Montesquieu --7ZAtKRhVyVSsbBD2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8yKryPTh2iSBKeccRAskTAJ95bIFtys2tvNiV3E475hNv/5bHRwCeN/r8 5qk18hM7zVCowvfg1kp/rjI= =9Q5v -END PGP SIGNATURE- --7ZAtKRhVyVSsbBD2--
Re: Regexes in search?
--AhhlLboLdkugWU4S Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Sven Guckes spake thus: The reason I ask is that I've got some mboxes, and a few of them are substrings of some others (ie, foobar is one mbox, and foobarbaz is another), and when I search for foobar, I get foobarbaz, which isn't what I want. I've tried searching for ^foobar$, but it didn't work. =20 which command do you use for your search? I'm doing it in a folder hook. The line looks like this: folder-hook =3Dfoobar macro index Left change-folderTabsearchfooba= rEnter If I change foobar to ^foobar, it doesn't work, but that line as it is works fine. Is there a different search command that does have regexes? --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- What's this script do? unzip ; touch ; finger ; mount ; gasp ; yes ; umount ; sleep Hint for the answer: not everything is computer-oriented. Sometimes you're in a sleeping bag, camping out. (Contributed by Frans van der Zande.) --AhhlLboLdkugWU4S Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8yLagPTh2iSBKeccRAk6rAJ0ba9J5HW9lYJR3KO8QzXvHicZJEgCeMSo5 Jh2EmesTl9LGhC6a7exO4AE= =/n6Y -END PGP SIGNATURE- --AhhlLboLdkugWU4S--
Re: Regexes in search?
--zhXaljGHf11kAtnf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Rob 'Feztaa' Park spake thus: which command do you use for your search? =20 I'm doing it in a folder hook. The line looks like this: =20 folder-hook =3Dfoobar macro index Left change-folderTabsearchfoo= barEnter =20 If I change foobar to ^foobar, it doesn't work, but that line as it is works fine. Is there a different search command that does have regexes? This is really weird. I'm generating these with a perl script, and if I tell it to print ^$mbox, I'll get something like ^inbox printed, but mutt will interpret that as ^Inbox (a tab and then nbox). But if I tell it to print ^ ^H$mbox, it'll print the same thing but mutt will behave properly. Thanks anyway, it's working now... ;) --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I think a relationship is like a shark. It has to constantly move forward or it dies. Well, what we have on our hands here is a dead shark. -- Woody Allen --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8yL3APTh2iSBKeccRAs3ZAJ9QHyxv3NF+pqk49/VmXBDX2FP/mgCfdTHa jleOZdxUCDMY0Q9TLNDtNHg= =flCh -END PGP SIGNATURE- --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf--
Re: X-Header
Alas! Shawn McMahon spake thus: begin Mike Schiraldi quotation: giving me the following result: X-Uptime: 18:09:29 up 32 days, 5:40, 5 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.08 Of course, it's a very silly flag to use, since it's so easy to fake. Who ever heard of such a thing! ;) -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Even a blind pig stumbles upon a few acorns. msg27542/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: running mutt behind a firewall
Alas! Russell Hoover spake thus: Hey mutt users, I'm putting this question to the list for a friend. Suuure ;) How can I configure mutt to communicate directly with a POP server and SMTP server outside of my local network. Use sSMTP (dunno about pop, though). sSMTP is monkeywork to configure (three line config file), and it sends mails just fine. Basically, it's a replacement for the sendmail binary: it takes an address as an argument, and then takes a mail from STDIN. Then it takes that and passes it off to the mailhub that you've configured in the config file. If you're wondering how well it works, I used it to send this... -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- heavy, adj.: Seduced by the chocolate side of the force.
OT: procmail, \/, and mailing lists.
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Ok, I've spent the better part of this evening searching google, the
procmail website, and mutt archives, but I just can't find how to do
this. I'm sure I've seen somebody post it here once, but I can't find
it.
Anyway, what I want to do is automatically have procmail sort out
mailing lists.
For example, I am subscribed to mailing lists [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
and [EMAIL PROTECTED] I want procmail to sort mail from these lists to the
folders foo, bar, and baz, without having to write three separate rules.
I know I could do something like this (untested):
:0:
* ^TO_\/.*@qux\.com
~/mail/$MATCH
But, the problem being that the foldernames would be the actual address
of the list ('[EMAIL PROTECTED]' instead of 'foo', which is what I really
want).
Any ideas? Thanks.
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Rob 'Feztaa' Park
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: ugly thread tree display
--mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Sven Guckes spake thus: telnet.exe sucks. use putty.exe. nuff said. I disagree. /usr/bin/ssh beats both of them ;) --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Beam me up, Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here! --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8wjXZPTh2iSBKeccRAlTcAJ9N4FOWRHcjs0DMvRYVhGDOTAFEdACdFee5 cRmdTbt96YKfOz8W3DACvkg= =1t/C -END PGP SIGNATURE- --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+--
Re: procmail script for deleting duplicates
--Q0rSlbzrZN6k9QnT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! David T-G spake thus: % A better solution is simply to have duplicates sent to ~/mail/duplicates % instead of /dev/null, so that way you know what's being filtered. =20 ... but you'd still have the same problem even though you could manually get the messages back. It's better than losing them forever, and not knowing what procmail is hiding from you. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- It wasn't that she had a rose in her teeth, exactly. It was more like the rose and the teeth were in the same glass. --Q0rSlbzrZN6k9QnT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8wFdBPTh2iSBKeccRAr0UAJ9Fdh79GVqsCG3nxfoPV+2PWaRZYACdFn9Q 531pom3qSnd0RFfKDmLGo64= =w5wx -END PGP SIGNATURE- --Q0rSlbzrZN6k9QnT--
Re: quotes - set attribution=`script`
Alas! Bernard Massot spake thus: Easy fix. In your muttrc do this: set attribution=`script %d`, and then in the script, $* will have the date of the mail in it. that's exactly what I've done but the script sees the litteral string %d instead of the date ! my script is called like that: «/home/bernard/.mutt/deiziat.sh %d» and not «/home/bernard/.mutt/deiziat.sh some_date» Ok, I've got it ;) The set attribution thing is expanded when mutt starts, not when the message is sent. That's why %d is being passed to the script: mutt doesn't know what date, because mutt doesn't know what message. As far as I know, it's not actually possible to pass the date to the script because the script is run when mutt starts, not for every message. I forgot why you want to pass the date to the script, though. What's so special about your attribution that it can't be a simple %n wrote:? -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The way to a man's stomach is through his esophagus. msg27435/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: quotes - set attribution=`script`
Alas! Simon White spake thus: It was along these lines, IIRC: If (date written=today) then quote normal attribution Else quote some other attribution... In that case, why not just use message-hooks with ~d or ~r in the pattern? Something like this: message-hook . set attribution='On %d, %n said:' message-hook ~d `date +%m` set attribution='Today, %n said:' (untested) -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- When I say the magic word to all these people, they will vanish forever. I will then say the magic words to you, and you, too, will vanish -- never to be seen again. -- Kurt Vonnegut Jr., Between Time and Timbuktu msg27443/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: quotes - set attribution=`script`
--qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Bernard Massot spake thus: On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 02:13:31PM -0600, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: Then use the message-hooks idea that I posted, but replace the=20 `date +%m` bit with something that gives you the day-of-month of last monday. =20 I can't be sure the mail was written the previous monday. I may answer an old mail. Then I guess you'll just have to settle on speaking broken brezhoneg then, won't you? --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Boy! Eucalyptus! --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8wKHhPTh2iSBKeccRAu9+AJ9WJmdckPOUD4vV//IRUcP+35LF6wCfXmKv AtYTDXvPfzSrLfpvE/0LY8o= =JHFD -END PGP SIGNATURE- --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS--
Re: quotes - set attribution=`script`
Alas! Bernard Massot spake thus: try this:set attribution=`script` im mutt, of course. good idea but I need a way to give the script the date of the mail if I launch it with %d, the script doesn't see the date but the string %d Easy fix. In your muttrc do this: set attribution=`script %d`, and then in the script, $* will have the date of the mail in it. -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- BOFH excuse #108: The air conditioning water supply pipe ruptured over the machine room msg27400/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [OT] procmail rule
--c3bfwLpm8qysLVxt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Mads Martin J=F8rgensen spake thus: sorry for the off-topic but I would like to add a rules to my procmailrc to create archive by month; ie mutt-users.april.2002 =20 Any Idea ? =20 man 8 cron man 5 crontab man crontab That would be The Wrong Way (tm) of doing it. What you need to do is get them organized in the first place, not after-the-fact. That procmail rule suggested in the other email will work fine, but I do it differently here: I let procmail put everything into ~/mail/mbox, and then I use mbox hooks to move old mail from ~/mail/mbox to ~/mail/archives/.MM.mbox ;) --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I'm sorry, our software is perfect. The problem must be you. -- Dogbert --c3bfwLpm8qysLVxt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8v0pvPTh2iSBKeccRAvRcAJ4pdU22MXP6JOg4xclnF9H95Ktn0wCfS7rg p4CQT2eD3LYpfh/MAJVK73s= =8wNx -END PGP SIGNATURE- --c3bfwLpm8qysLVxt--
Re: Quoted-Printable header coding correct?
--bajzpZikUji1w+G9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Alexander Skwar spake thus: All the time I get (well, sorta, of course): =20 Subject: =3D?iso-8859-1?Q?=3DDCberpr=3DFCfun?=3D =3D?iso-8859-1?Q?g?=3D von MailAdressen =20 So, mutt always seperates the g from fun. That's what you get for using wonky foreign characters like 'g' ;) --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- We are Pentium of Borg. Division is futile. You will be approximated. (seen in someone's .signature) --bajzpZikUji1w+G9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8v0rZPTh2iSBKeccRAmMUAJ0UQ7AaEGf90se8LgjisLFazveuoACcDe2Q OnG6nyl4yGfJSSVcyfLw2dk= =9gak -END PGP SIGNATURE- --bajzpZikUji1w+G9--
Re: procmail script for deleting duplicates
--OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS spake thus: Pointless paranoia really, but imagine this: someone could subscribe to the same mailing list as you, with an address starting with 'a', so they get the messages before you, then send you messages with the same Message-ID as each message on the list. If their messages reach you first, the real messages could be deleted by your formail script. A better solution is simply to have duplicates sent to ~/mail/duplicates instead of /dev/null, so that way you know what's being filtered. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Basically my wife was immature. I'd be at home in the bath and she'd come in and sink my boats. -- Woody Allen --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8v0R/PTh2iSBKeccRAnkTAJ9ALcNihtNK4OAgCCHSGjJS/s1NQQCcDPz9 h3DdJFktVWgAxrhX2nOMgoY= =U/id -END PGP SIGNATURE- --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY--
Re: List-Reply
--ZfOjI3PrQbgiZnxM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Dan Lowe spake thus: Once you're on enough lists, sorting them into proper contains (folders) becomes important. I, like many, use Procmail for that. I don't use the Message-ID trick to delete duplicates; I used to, but I had to stop becau= se it kept deleting the wrong copy, as described in this thread (the mail would end up in my inbox instead of the list folder). There's a very simple fix, here. In your procmail rules, stop using ^To: and start using ^TO_ (sans quotes of course). ^TO_ is special procmail shorthand for some regex that basically matches To:, Cc:, and Bcc: (I think). That way, when you get both copies of the email, even the one that is Cc'd to you, will be filtered into the mutt folder. THEN you can be like me and not give two flips about whether you're reading the list copy or the Cc'ed copy, because they both end up in the correct folder. And you can turn duplicate filtering back on, too ;) --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- There is nothing more silly than a silly laugh. -- Gaius Valerius Catullus --ZfOjI3PrQbgiZnxM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8vgTHPTh2iSBKeccRAm3KAJ9RoenOKbv6G24tSUtktkpEeBuf/ACfdE9/ zpObxcjxisAeGNt6YB0PbDw= =NkyC -END PGP SIGNATURE- --ZfOjI3PrQbgiZnxM--
Re: List-Reply
--R+My9LyyhiUvIEro Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Mike Schiraldi spake thus: That should not happen. What does, say, your mutt-users procmail recipe l= ook like? =20 Mine's: =20 :0 H * ^TO.*@mutt.org mutt/ Like I said in my other message: :0: * ^TO_mutt-user $MAILDIR/mutt And it all gets sorted out The Right Way. ;) If you were to send a message to both me and mutt-users, i would of course get both copies. This recipe would put both copies in my mutt folder. If i were using formmail, regardless of which one got deleted, the other would end up in the mutt folder. This is because the rule is based on a To header containing @mutt.org, and both copies of the message will have that. Exactly ;) --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The difference between dogs and cats is that dogs come when they're called. Cats take a message and get back to you. --R+My9LyyhiUvIEro Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8vgV3PTh2iSBKeccRAgotAJ0eeOV9w1EVA1yj+PzhhRShE4zdiACfa0hH mqHweqe26np9g0lZqcw3pZo= =eJzq -END PGP SIGNATURE- --R+My9LyyhiUvIEro--
Re: List-Reply
Alas! Mike Schiraldi spake thus: I'm not sure what kind of procmail voodoo you would need to grab this information from Delivered-To and fulfill the user's request, but it would be weird and scary. You're so simple-minded. All you have to do is set up a temporal anomaly in which procmail runs /backwards/ through time, such that it is able to recognize the second email before the first arrives, and delete the first one instead of the second ;) -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Knowledge, sir, should be free to all! -- Harry Mudd, I, Mudd, stardate 4513.3 msg27324/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: limit to subjects with only CAPITALS
--IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Sven Guckes spake thus: * Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-18 02:20]: Have you tried this pattern? [^a-z] =20 no - because the limit command would then match all subject lines which contain at least one non-letter, such as =20 Subject: can you spot the non-letter? So then how about ^[^a-z]+$ ? That would match anything that contained only non-lowercase-letters, wouldn't it? --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Art is either plagiarism or revolution. -- Paul Gauguin --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8vj0sPTh2iSBKeccRAjFNAJ406npzne+ZaQFdcuoj09eTBxdOzwCfcfQo Jen5LfAgZ0FDX5+kjM10aGs= =LDBN -END PGP SIGNATURE- --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o--
Re: List-Reply
--gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Michael Elkins spake thus: Volker Kuhlmann wrote: How does this delete the personal copy, but not the list copy? =20 Both messages will have the same Message-ID field in the header. Actually, I think Volker was asking Is it possible to make this delete the personal copy but not the list copy? -- and the answer, as far as I know, is no. procmail/formail will delete the second one that it sees, which is almost always going to be the list copy. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Now there's three things you can do in a baseball game: you can win or you can lose or it can rain. -- Casey Stengel --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8vNE/PTh2iSBKeccRAt2sAJwL+JK86hBVZ0bEYI2AmWU67w1CywCcCAnW uObL3nL55U3rm1aII52sUn8= =0Q5J -END PGP SIGNATURE- --gKMricLos+KVdGMg--
Re: ugly thread tree display
Alas! Katie Bechtold spake thus: Just goes to show, no matter how long I look for an answer, I'm bound to find it the minute after sending my query to a mailing list. :) You too??! Lol, I do that all the time ;) Apologies to all. Don't sweat it. -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- When I say the magic word to all these people, they will vanish forever. I will then say the magic words to you, and you, too, will vanish -- never to be seen again. -- Kurt Vonnegut Jr., Between Time and Timbuktu msg27098/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: HTML Mail
--KsGdsel6WgEHnImy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Patrick spake thus: I use a small footprint limited feature web browser called dillo for this final action to spamcop. Works great and is very small and quick. It is available at: sourceforge.netprojects/dillo/ I love dillo, it's so freaking fast. All it needs is just a few more features (like ftp support and bookmark heirarchies), and it'll replace Mozilla on my computer ;) --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- We all declare for liberty, but in using the same word we do not all mean the same thing. -- A. Lincoln --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8t6YGPTh2iSBKeccRAmrxAJ9j2z6a1qwnk4cLWj8KvzsL7aKhWACdHJ+U FHyg6ZlSc7Vuy1lTT9gVd5k= =4E7c -END PGP SIGNATURE- --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy--
Re: HTML Mail
--CdrF4e02JqNVZeln Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Patrick spake thus: I love dillo, it's so freaking fast. All it needs is just a few more features (like ftp support and bookmark heirarchies), and it'll replace Mozilla on my computer ;) =20 You would probably also like skipstone (and it moving away from sourceforge). Small and fast with more features than dillo. Skipstone uses the GtkMozEmbed mozilla engine. I use dillo for small browses that require few features and skipstone for more normal views. Looks interesting, I'm going to try it. It has tabbing, which is cool. How is it for loading time? You say it's fast -- faster or slower than dillo? Thanks. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Rainy days and automatic weapons always get me down. --CdrF4e02JqNVZeln Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8t8J+PTh2iSBKeccRAvBSAJ9FwCFXL8ofhdZ1BKykVaRE7F39vgCfeber 9dOkLZRxkkHGCLMggrvmkeM= =607E -END PGP SIGNATURE- --CdrF4e02JqNVZeln--
Re: un-alternates?
--WChQLJJJfbwij+9x Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! David T-G spake thus: % Here you go: =20 [snip] =20 You call that a one-liner? Good grief; who taught you how to count?? Why settle for a one liner when you can have something that gets the job done? ;) Thanks for the free code, though :-) Np, but you might want to substitue m/$ARGV[0]/ into the if statement, so that way you can specify your regex on the commandline, and then just type in a bunch of stuff into STDIN to test it ;) --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The nice thing about Windows is - It does not just crash, it displays a dialog box and lets you press 'OK' first. (Arno Schaefer's .sig) --WChQLJJJfbwij+9x Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8sJjZPTh2iSBKeccRApkaAJsHzqHfAEiuTxypMXw0Fhg7zozYYACfTdJz tSgKxg9Q629MhC169reAiAI= =HDyH -END PGP SIGNATURE- --WChQLJJJfbwij+9x--
Re: un-alternates?
--y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! David T-G spake thus: % Well, there's only one way to find out if that works ;) =20 No, there's AT LEAST one way. A much easier way is to ask around :-) Bah, the way you're doing it takes forever, though :P % If it doesn't, though, you might try this: %=20 % alternates=3D^[^l][^a][^u][^r][^a][^t][^g].*@justpick %=20 % Of course, that's kind of a bubble sort... ;) =20 Yeah. Worse yet, it's not just Laura (I have the daughters, too, you know), so that would get *really* ugly really fast. Well obviously the only solution here is to register a second domain and tell your wife and kids that their new email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] (and whatever else for your kids), then the 'justpick' thing will only match your address again :) --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- If a thing's worth doing, it is worth doing badly. -- G.K. Chesterton --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8r21GPTh2iSBKeccRAhX6AJ9FUJIuj0OIMhNLRFOCvjAasZqsKwCfe31f 9DK6BudTHVyxoqltf6XgfSE= =+dyj -END PGP SIGNATURE- --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6--
Re: un-alternates?
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Alas! David T-G spake thus:
% Use perl or python or egrep of emacs or some of the more modern vi
% clones etc.
=20
Agreed; a little perl one-liner was what I had in mind, since I vaguely
recall that egrep is *not* the same as mutt.
Here you go:
while (STDIN)
{
if (m/the regex you are testing/)
{
print It matches!\n;
}
else
{
print It doesn't match!\n;
}
}
Then just run that script, and type a bunch of stuff into it's STDIN
(email addresses in this case), and it will tell you if they match or
not.
Was that so hard? ;)
--=20
Rob 'Feztaa' Park
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Delta: We're Amtrak with wings.-- David Letterman
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Re: display proces id - format string %$
--1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Sven Guckes spake thus: * Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-03 16:33:45 +0200]: can mutt display its own process id? =20 * Dave Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-03 15:43]: set status_format=3DHello, I am mutt and my PID is `echo $PPID` and variations on that theme? =20 have you tried that? i dont think so. ;-) It works. I've tried it. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Nothing is so firmly believed as that which we least know. -- Michel de Montaigne --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8q4f2PTh2iSBKeccRAmCfAJ40khR4/rcrsC7wawhrFLgJsyoW2QCcDjaB /24mdcNp16xMOhkLuzIuWY4= =TAIN -END PGP SIGNATURE- --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7--
Re: X-Uptime: DSWs
Alas! Sven Guckes spake thus: my_hdr X-Uptime: since 1970 ok, maybe make it not *that* obvious... ;-) I think I need to go back to the old script I was using that would generate nice, random uptime headers for me ;) -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Is there life before breakfast? msg26629/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: change $record based on mailboxes - copy+save_name
--ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Jun Sun spake thus: Don't you think it is a common sense to save a copy of outgoing message to the *same* folder as you are reading from? Not really, too much clutter. I prefer to have a special sent messages folder. If that is so, I think we should make it easier to do this. It's already pretty easy. Make a script something like this: #!/bin/bash for i in ~/mail/* do=20 i=3D$(basename $i) echo folder-hook =3D$i \set record=3D\'=3D$i\'\ done then simply source the output of this script. It might even be simpler than that, though ;) --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- He who knows, does not speak. He who speaks, does not know. -- Lao Tsu --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8q81wPTh2iSBKeccRAi2zAJ0Qfj3JaChfiJcvl8Xok+UYVD0k+ACfY48K q88SOosOTImXirJFaDqFtTM= =jFLG -END PGP SIGNATURE- --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH--
Re: gpg-key probs
--uh9ZiVrAOUUm9fzH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Rocco Rutte spake thus: On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 04:18:29:PM -0500 Shawn McMahon wrote: begin quoting what Rocco Rutte said on Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 11:02:23PM +0200: On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 03:07:58:PM -0500 ShRen McMahon wrote: ^ Is that a stylistic choice, or is your config broken? Config broken... I'll try to figure out what exactly is going wrong since it's working now without any change... Well, isn't Aw the German equivalent of Re? Looks like something is going through and making all your Aw's are actually Re's, but only on that one message... --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For certain people, after fifty, litigation takes the place of sex. -- Gore Vidal --uh9ZiVrAOUUm9fzH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8qOlOPTh2iSBKeccRAr+8AJ9WH9PKxTKT/5a8nR/ir1Mh6QfL1QCfRbSD ZIhhrdozZMBwLNDy5ox8mDQ= =Nlx4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --uh9ZiVrAOUUm9fzH--
Re: Irony getting in the way (Was: Re: ignore...)
--WhfpMioaduB5tiZL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Rocco Rutte spake thus: he has to reboot every 3 hours to put on a kewl new linux kernel. =20 It may sound funny, but I really saw some Linux guys talking about what would be necessary to replace a kernel 'on the fly'. Didn't that happen on this mailing list? If not, I must be thinking about that web forum I hang around on.=20 --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Software is like sex: It's better when it's free. -- Linus Torvalds --WhfpMioaduB5tiZL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8qOh1PTh2iSBKeccRAstzAJ9coy7LmK4NL5UPJK8Hc3BfAU/tGgCeMRXJ UeivZnTLqwJHaoT5sr6cPU4= =4L0F -END PGP SIGNATURE- --WhfpMioaduB5tiZL--
Re: X-Mailer header
Alas! John Buttery spake thus: So, while I'm definitely interested in following the standards, there doesn't seem to be one. It's not a formal standard in any sense of the word standard; it's more like a deeply rooted tradition that goes all the way back to the early days of USENET (maybe even earlier). -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Then you admit confirming not denying you ever said that? NO! ... I mean Yes! WHAT? I'll put `maybe.' -- Bloom County msg26458/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Why is http address attachet to header?
--mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Jerome De Greef spake thus: So, that is correct behavior from the mailer, and incorrect behavior from the user. :-) =20 I don't know if it's only here but using mutt with vim if I type a line right after the headers, without any blank line inbetween vim (or mutt) is adding the blank line automatically... So you're saying that when you go to type a message, vim automatically inserts the blank line for you? By any chance, are you pressing the o key to enter insert mode when you are on that first blank line after the headers? ;) --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- G. B. Shaw to William Douglas Home: Go on writing plays, my boy. One of these days a London producer will go into his office and say to his secretary, `Is there a play from Shaw this morning?' and when she says `No,' he will say, `Well, then we'll have to start on the rubbish.' And that's your chance, my boy. --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8pMSDPTh2iSBKeccRAhM8AJ9euShpqKFwI/Il0zWe6LMpzYF97wCfalQ4 YeZhurFES1FX0JjF24SS9wM= =ueTg -END PGP SIGNATURE- --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ--
Re: OT: OS / distro / kernel
--cvVnyQ+4j833TQvp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Kai Blin spake thus: You mean like emacs? That nice OS with the bad editor? Hey, did you know that you can actually run Vim from inside Emacs? Now Emacs finally has a decent editor ;) --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for they become soggy and hard to light. Do not throw cigarette butts in the urinal, for they are subtle and quick to anger. --cvVnyQ+4j833TQvp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8pMTzPTh2iSBKeccRAv5bAJ9Cra2f5kM9lQ19ll+i/1WuyXZMiwCfd3JJ N7jH/CP5okf84Lyd11sVINM= =nsvu -END PGP SIGNATURE- --cvVnyQ+4j833TQvp--
Re: OT: OS definition thread
--1LKvkjL3sHcu1TtY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Rocco Rutte spake thus: In Germany there's a campaign running to connect every school to the internet. IIRC, Microsoft and Compaq are involved by contributing hardware and software for free/for low price. So what to expect? Yuck. It's bad enough that MS practically owns all the schools in NA. In Computer Science I spent two terms on creating a website on something dealing with new media (okay, surfing all the time and hacking it together in 1/2 day before deadline). Others students have to write web pages with Word and do some 'office' with Works. Again: what to expect? Computer Science? You mean, university level computer science? They teach you to use MSWord at university? Get your money back, you were cheated! Any idiot can use Word with no training. To spend money on learning this is nothing more than a waste. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- byob, v: Believing Your Own Bull --1LKvkjL3sHcu1TtY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8pUodPTh2iSBKeccRAi8iAJwMLDE/0+I82FKggLLh6TqSCy5aswCfTFQm LStKsMdSH5z7g9HCKt0i+Eo= =A4Zv -END PGP SIGNATURE- --1LKvkjL3sHcu1TtY--
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
--zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Rocco Rutte spake thus: As your X-Uptime header which could be - at least - at bit more specific? ;-) =20 What are you getting at? ;) =20 Sorry, I don't get this one. Either it's too late or I'm too stupid. You want to say what? I believe that's what I just said to you. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- When you're not looking at it, this fortune is written in FORTRAN. --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8og81PTh2iSBKeccRAk1KAJ91ERAErbixhV9luo830EruYCxI1wCeMlBz 6wsGv8ibizi89VHnVivucIs= =YZO5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx--
Re: Irony getting in the way (Was: Re: ignore...)
--6sX45UoQRIJXqkqR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Martin Karlsson spake thus: Rob, your X-Uptime header shows even the no. of hundreds odf seconds; I think Rocco ironically suggests that it perhaps could be more specific - meaning that he thinks it is _very_ specific. I see... ;) --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- It is undignified for a woman to play servant to a man who is not hers. -- Spock, Amok Time, stardate 3372.7 --6sX45UoQRIJXqkqR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8oiZqPTh2iSBKeccRAvFhAJ407FFOCRRDv1UmZcqOXReAR2Y6IgCeIJRV skUOUPj1kon9102Wyh6H3jM= =RN6v -END PGP SIGNATURE- --6sX45UoQRIJXqkqR--
Re: hiding the pgp sig completely from view?
--VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Shawn McMahon spake thus: If not, you could strip them with procmail. Oh, so it's ok to strip sigs with procmail, but not headers? :P --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- An honest tale speeds best being plainly told. -- William Shakespeare, Henry VI --VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8opyvPTh2iSBKeccRAgucAJ9IGUcJ9ZNQQ2J3dLBuiafs9QNrngCdG0Gq YLWCyQ9kRtZtol/71a5zv3k= =fi/o -END PGP SIGNATURE- --VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb--
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
Alas! Rocco Rutte spake thus: A lot of people on this list and others have creative X- headers that I enjoy reading. It's just as much a part of the email as the body of the message is. As your X-Uptime header which could be - at least - at bit more specific? ;-) What are you getting at? ;) -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- UNIX is basically a simple operating system, but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity. -- Dennis Ritchie msg26189/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
--vJguvTgX93MxBIIe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David, it's wakie-wakie time! Alas! David T-G spake thus: % That brings us back to the first problem though: How do I ignore X-Nuke % without ignoring the other X- headers? (without using the huge mess % david posted). =20 Just ignore x-nuke, of course. Did you miss the first half of this thread? the ignore command will not work after an unignore command. IOW, this: unignore x- ignore x-nuke _does_not_hide_x-nuke_headers_ % I know I'd be breaking some RFC, but if I prepended just 'Nuke' then it % would get hidden, and the real X- headers that I want would be % displayed. =20 Ah... So don't prepend x-nuke to *all* x- headers. Piece of cake. The problem is that x-nuke _IS_ an x- header. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sometimes when I get up in the morning, I feel very peculiar. I feel like I've just got to bite a cat! I feel like if I don't bite a cat before sundown, I'll go crazy! But then I just take a deep breath and forget about it. That's what is known as real maturity. -- Snoopy --vJguvTgX93MxBIIe Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8oNOZPTh2iSBKeccRAkL6AJ4h9VzzBp6T8KoE5RoR018xYbyzaACfbodP j8s7yYjNHOLNwV54IlgxkRY= =8hvW -END PGP SIGNATURE- --vJguvTgX93MxBIIe--
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
--xHbokkKX1kTiQeDC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! David T-G spake thus: Just working isn't enough. It has to be elegant and clever with a dash of magic. *mutter* Kids these days... How is my solution not elegant? It's a simple 3 lines that trashes a bunch of headers that I don't want to see. Lets see you work out an x-nuke solution and we'll see how many lines it is... :P --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Kansas state law requires pedestrians crossing the highways at night to wear tail lights. --xHbokkKX1kTiQeDC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8oNQePTh2iSBKeccRAkQWAKCEHlrMHYPIgA1RqqoO1R6LRjBohACfR11v LqmM/kLlSVLdXCDVRyVI/us= =6o5S -END PGP SIGNATURE- --xHbokkKX1kTiQeDC--
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
Alas! David T-G spake thus: % Lets see you work out an x-nuke solution and we'll see how many lines it % is... :P No, that's left as an exercise for the student. Really :-) This student is not interested in wasting time on procmail/formail silliness. I've just recompiled my kernel with reiserfs support, and I've _finally_ wiped my old windows partition[0], in preparation for my second Linux From Scratch installation. I don't have any time for anything else today. [0] This officially means that every single binary on my entire system is GPL'd ;) -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Cold, adj.: When the politicians walk around with their hands in their own pockets. msg26218/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
--bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Shawn McMahon spake thus: begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 02:59:= 37PM -0700: [0] This officially means that every single binary on my entire system is GPL'd ;) =20 You don't have ps? What are you using instead? I don't use ps. Or any replacements. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- When in panic, fear and doubt, Drink in barrels, eat, and shout. --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8oS50PTh2iSBKeccRAkSWAJ95vW0Uy5KDdvcuXp2HVqc0H/rC5ACfQYlI RJKN4ZgLfUWQzzGxYk+meMM= =DLWY -END PGP SIGNATURE- --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5--
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
--gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Will Yardley spake thus: Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: I don't use ps. Or any replacements. =20 why ever not? Because I don't really know what it is, what it does, or why I'd ever want to use it. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- While your friend holds you affectionately by both your hands you are safe, for you can watch both of his. -- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8oTwYPTh2iSBKeccRAlPYAJ9ml4W6xOwlGP9Oyzy4ZEniIa74jgCdHpmR GixveMdxpyp65iQ96S99lWY= =8O7K -END PGP SIGNATURE- --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy--
Re: PGP signing (newbie)
--DiL7RhKs8rK9YGuF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Simon White spake thus: 24-Mar-02 at 22:37, Rob 'Feztaa' Park ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : Your name just sounds so feminine. We seem to get a lot of that here, don't we? ;) =20 I don't know that I can let you get away with that. Said in the correct a= ccent - in fact, one of German, Switzerdutch, and most Scandinavian accents, Ju= ssi sounds reasonably masculine to me. Well, it sounds an awful lot like Jessy to me, which is a decidedly female name in Canada. I've never heard of a man named Jessy ;) (that we get a lot of it here comment was a reference to the time I assumed Rene Clerc was female, too. D'oh! ;) --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Myxie I know. Unless htere is a cookie monster somewhere between us tat m= uches the amil. Myxie amil/mail Myxie muches/munches tat/that htere/there HippieGuy heheh HippieGuy problems? :) * Myxie needs an ircii addon that pipes teh command line through ispell :) -- Seen on #Debian --DiL7RhKs8rK9YGuF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8n3sYPTh2iSBKeccRAqECAJ9Q2EobXLbgJu/bJBtG4wGpZc1VZQCfXry+ AaMnURJpXhWYw5njvzRhzQw= =jTjk -END PGP SIGNATURE- --DiL7RhKs8rK9YGuF--
Re: PGP signing (newbie)
--SNIs70sCzqvszXB4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! John Buttery spake thus: Oh, and of course I also sign just to keep Rob from forging my email. :) Rats! Foiled again! :) --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- First love is only a little foolishness and a lot of curiosity, no really self-respecting woman would take advantage of it. -- George Bernard Shaw, John Bull's Other Island --SNIs70sCzqvszXB4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8n3xjPTh2iSBKeccRAkSrAJ0VSLf35CbGh3XWcgKxqZn6L98RYgCeNooW /JdpMYa8gF/bJYH92islQv4= =vPXG -END PGP SIGNATURE- --SNIs70sCzqvszXB4--
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
--2FkSFaIQeDFoAt0B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! David T-G spake thus: Rather than using procmail, which will *gasp* change the mail as it comes in, just have mutt ignore those headers that you don't want to see and update your list as you see new ones. To wit: =20 ignore from received content- mime-version status x-status message-id ignore sender references return-path lines ignore x-priority x-ms list-id precedence x-mailman x-mime x-beenthere ignore x-exp x-wm x-webmail errors-to ignore x-authentication mail-followup-to in-reply-to organization ignore mailing-list x-originating x-egroups list-unsubscribe# egroups = buffalos ignore x-no-archive list-help list-subscribe list-post # SHLOL ignore x-ml-name x-mlserver x-mail-count x-ml-info # tlinux-users ignore x-antiabuse # good grief... ignore x-legal-notice x-disclaimer x-no-spam# ken wahl loves these... unignore from: subject to cc date x-mailer x-url delivered-to Oh yuck! You don't honestly believe that that mess is a better solution than a 3-line procmail recepie, do you? Besides, those ignore commands you posted don't include the 30 or so obnoxious incredimail headers. Besides, I'm only doing it to Incredimail users. I mean, if they want to accost me with tons of useless X- headers, I shouldn't have to put up with them (the headers, not the people) :P --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- BOFH excuse #133: It's not plugged in. --2FkSFaIQeDFoAt0B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8n34aPTh2iSBKeccRAr12AJ0RR0Mb6uP1qHhtDLoSLGU9rJPRHQCfapGB UHypQJXQtw0fLTbrlmlucc0= =gs5Z -END PGP SIGNATURE- --2FkSFaIQeDFoAt0B--
Re: OT: canada sucks. [was Re: PGP signing (newbie)]
Alas! tim lupfer spake thus: Well, it sounds an awful lot like Jessy to me, which is a decidedly female name in Canada. I've never heard of a man named Jessy ;) but does canada _really_ count? nah. go play with an elk :P Oh, _that_'s mature... -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I'm glad I'm not bisexual. I couldn't stand being rejected by men as well as women. -- Bernard Manning msg26083/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
--cPi+lWm09sJ+d57q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! David T-G spake thus: % Oh yuck! You don't honestly believe that that mess is a better solution % than a 3-line procmail recepie, do you? =20 Sure I do... It doesn't change the original mail message and it reminds me of what I've tossed for when I later want to go back and look at it again. Dude, that mess is almost akin to a bubble sort :P I'd rather just rip off all the useless headers with an elegant 3-line procmail recipie than have to hide them all with 10 or 20 lines of ignore statements. % Besides, I'm only doing it to Incredimail users. I mean, if they want to % accost me with tons of useless X- headers, I shouldn't have to put up w= ith % them (the headers, not the people) :P =20 Oh, I think you shouldn't have to put up with the users, either! Lol, it's just my grandmother. I don't think she'll understand the finer points of using The One True Mail User Agent ;) --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Kissing don't last, cookery do. -- George Meredith --cPi+lWm09sJ+d57q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8n4ezPTh2iSBKeccRAn54AJ98xaA7zdOP5aVGLbkMHwUYodrzwwCgiHVy LjeCnKtT+fIWULk3lcSTaVE= =O2Bc -END PGP SIGNATURE- --cPi+lWm09sJ+d57q--
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
--CNfT9TXqV7nd4cfk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Shawn McMahon spake thus: I mean, who really cares about all that other crapola? A lot of people on this list and others have creative X- headers that I enjoy reading. It's just as much a part of the email as the body of the message is. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- If your mother knew what you're doing, she'd probably hang her head and cry. --CNfT9TXqV7nd4cfk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8n5BZPTh2iSBKeccRAsRfAJ4kp2S/pwnd7XCTl+m9v+grT4Rk3wCeM1Qt ni8ORqB7acSZKa8DzBwSEFw= =kI3O -END PGP SIGNATURE- --CNfT9TXqV7nd4cfk--
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
--MFZs98Tklfu0WsCO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Shawn McMahon spake thus: You can have it both ways; use Procmail to prepend X-Nuke at the beginning of all the bad lines, then ignore X-Nuke. That brings us back to the first problem though: How do I ignore X-Nuke without ignoring the other X- headers? (without using the huge mess david posted). I know I'd be breaking some RFC, but if I prepended just 'Nuke' then it would get hidden, and the real X- headers that I want would be displayed. It's still easier to just rip the headers right out. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This life is a test. It is only a test. Had this been an actual life, you would have received further instructions as to what to do and where to go. --MFZs98Tklfu0WsCO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8n5EpPTh2iSBKeccRAodpAJ9tRH7c79Gb4UtUS4nGGXSyCL+duwCdFcjk 728GRsClk+eqp2bE1x/l03Y= =wx9m -END PGP SIGNATURE- --MFZs98Tklfu0WsCO--
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
--yklP1rR72f9kjNtc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Shawn McMahon spake thus: That brings us back to the first problem though: How do I ignore X-Nuke without ignoring the other X- headers? (without using the huge mess david posted). =20 ignore received x-nuke There are other headers I want to hide though. The only headers that I _want_ to see are done with an unignore in my =2Emuttrc, immediately following an ignore *. x-nuke wouldn't work in that situation, and to prepend x-nuke to _everything_ that I want to hide is just out of the question. Too much work. What I have now with formail working against incredimail _works_, that's the point. It's exactly what I want. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You may have heard that a dean is to faculty as a hydrant is to a dog. -- Alfred Kahn --yklP1rR72f9kjNtc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8n5f4PTh2iSBKeccRAl4cAKCFNvr9YL7cnOCkefGWiml+ATqoDwCdHOb8 BrPTQadek79KRczAKIvyFIQ= =Go6Z -END PGP SIGNATURE- --yklP1rR72f9kjNtc--
Re: Incredimail CRLF encoding
Alas! Simon White spake thus:
Well just as an aside Incredimail marketing claims Email has evolved on
its website, or something equally high power marketing toss to go with the
eyecandy approach to email.
Yeah, as far as I can tell all those stupid X- headers are some kind of
preferences that tell Incredimail how to display the message (sort of
like OE stationary, except that it doesn't send (as much of) the
stationary as OE does).
I also hate that it encodes CRLF in email sent as HTML (albeit
multipart formatted) which shows up as CTRL-M in mutt, and I can't
force people to fix plain text sending if they are already someone who
is actually /pleased/ to show me this great new email client they have
just installed.
Interesting. I am in a similar situation - my ISP's mail server is some
broken legacy OS that is terminating _all_ the lines on _every_ email
that passes through with CRLF's.
Fortunately, I download my mail with fetchmail, and it can be configured
to strip the cr's for you, which is a godsend for me.
So, since I'm hopeless with encoding, can someone tell me if I can filter
these people's mail in the pager so I don't have to keep asking them to
plaintext?
Well, look into fetchmail. If you can't/won't use fetchmail, use a perl
script that searches through a file and strips out all the ^M's... ;)
It would be a pretty simple script. Here's a snippet:
while (STDIN)
{
s/^M//g;
print;
}
(of course, replace ^M with the actual character).
--
Rob 'Feztaa' Park
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
As the poet said, Only God can make a tree -- probably because it's
so hard to figure out how to get the bark on.
-- Woody Allen
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ignore command does not seem to work
This is really weird. I have the following lines in my muttrc: ignore * unignore date from: reply-to to cc subject x- list user-agent ignore x-status x-uid x-keywords x-accept-language x-imagebase x-fid ignore x-mailer x-priority x-fid x-fver x-fit x-fcol x-fcat x-fdis ignore x-extensions x-bg x-bgt x-bgc x-bgpx x-bgpy x-asn x-asnf x-ash ignore x-x-ashf an x-anf x-ap x-apf x-ad x-adf x-auto x-cnt The idea is that I want to ignore everything by default, display some stuff, and then hide a bunch of boring X- headers that are used in some broken proprietary mailers, which have no real importance to me. The problem is, all of the ignore commands after the unignore seem to do nothing (they certainly aren't ignoring those headers, anyway). Can anybody tell me what's up? The manual says nothing about ignore not working after an unignore. Thanks ;) -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- A young girl once committed suicide because her mother refused her a new bonnet. Coroner's verdict: Death from excessive spunk. -- Sacramento Daily Union, September 13, 1860
Re: PGP signing (newbie)
Alas! Jussi Ekholm spake thus: But yeah - what is so bad in PGP signed mails in mailing lists? There is nothing wrong -- the people who say it is wrong are simply heretics. Oh, you _didn't_ want to start a flamewar? Oops... ;) -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- BOFH excuse #178: Short leg on process table msg25977/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
--9amGYk9869ThD9tj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Martin Karlsson spake thus: * Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-24 11.15 -0700]: This is really weird. I have the following lines in my muttrc: =20 ignore * unignore date from: reply-to to cc subject x- list user-agent =20 Are you sure that the 'x-' actually works? Do you see any x-headers if you remove the following lines altogether? Yes, it works. I've just added those last four ignores today, the first ignore and unignore have been there since I first wrote my .muttrc, and I've always been able to see all the X- headers. Then one day my grandmother started using IncrediMail (I think) and now all her emails have 3 screenfuls of useless X- headers that I want to hide, without hiding the X- headers of *nix-using people who have creative and interesting ones :) Maybe I could set up a hook of some kind that hides X- headers for my grandmother and nobody else? --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- He who knows that enough is enough will always have enough. -- Lao Tsu --9amGYk9869ThD9tj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8njogPTh2iSBKeccRAisVAJ0Xro8YDnPSKdwXA01WxiQH0kN4+gCfSxaO CsQvQ6Qhsn0UiMlvb062PbA= =kmpS -END PGP SIGNATURE- --9amGYk9869ThD9tj--
Re: Derot and Enrot
--z6Eq5LdranGa6ru8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Rob Reid spake thus: You'd think they're the same but obviously derot is for reading and enrot= is for sending.=20 Uh? How are they different? rot13 is such that encryption and decryption is the same process. Or do you just mean the difference is that derot is in mutt and enrot is in your editor? I'd like to tell you to look for enrot in the one true editor...but I hardly ever *send* anything in rot13, so I can't tell you = if there's a prewritten function for it. Well, if the value of your local $ONE_TRUE_EDITOR happens to be /usr/bin/vim, then rejoice! There is a built in command for rot13 encoding/decoding in vim. Just type 'g?' and then a movement command. For example, 'g?aw' encodes a word, 'g?3l' encodes the next 3 letters, etc. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- If something has not yet gone wrong then it would ultimately have been beneficial for it to go wrong. --z6Eq5LdranGa6ru8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8nj58PTh2iSBKeccRAgMTAJ4k4nUpEUiIGiQRUKYBZhyRp1jTwwCfbcQD ukChLJpTJCPgw4z9RI+xGgA= =awvA -END PGP SIGNATURE- --z6Eq5LdranGa6ru8--
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
--L6iaP+gRLNZHKoI4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Shawn McMahon spake thus: begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 01:42:09PM -0700: Maybe I could set up a hook of some kind that hides X- headers for my grandmother and nobody else? Or list all of the obnoxious ones, and then set up procmail to strip them out; that will work as a general solution in case somebody else uses Incredimail. Hey, that's a good idea. But how do I strip headers in procmail? Sorry, I'm not very experienced with procmail. All I know how to do is sort based on what headers exist, nothing more :-\ --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- quit When the quit statement is read, the bc processor is terminated, regardless of where the quit state- ment is found. For example, if (0 =3D=3D 1) quit will cause bc to terminate. (Seen in the manpage for bc. Note the if statement's logic) --L6iaP+gRLNZHKoI4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8nj7/PTh2iSBKeccRApaDAJ420DupYMk5SRb7+J9xIfvYESDMAwCeNpOr FWRWe22CyIpE8t+1lLf+z3E= =HDM3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --L6iaP+gRLNZHKoI4--
Re: mailers with scripting/setup language
--KdquIMZPjGJQvRdI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Rob Reid spake thus: If mutt could pass variables like the current folder to the environment, = then this mutt needs a scripting language, but no, that's bloated, and which one would we use? thread would probably recur less frequently. I don't understand why mutt so desperately needs a scripting language. What's wrong with the backtick evaluation that the .muttrc already has? I can't think of anything that can be done with a scripting language built into the .muttrc that can't be done with a bash script being evaluated with backticks inside the regular .muttrc. (but then again, I haven't put _too_much_ thought into it). Care to give some examples? --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Microsoft is a cross between the Borg and the Ferengi. Unfortunately, they use Borg to do their marketing and Ferengi to do their programming. -- Simon Slavin --KdquIMZPjGJQvRdI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8nkCVPTh2iSBKeccRAkuAAJ45/CFP9giRPlEw5VO1BDTMGf7IbgCfaVMZ 5qIYuhrJ4qyu/1rQZxDtxDE= =My32 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --KdquIMZPjGJQvRdI--
Re: PGP signing (newbie)
Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED], I guess? Yeah. I didn't cover anything like my message id's up, I didn't want to get too elaborate. I was just making a point that mail can be spoofed and signing your messages prevents this :) -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sometimes I wonder if I'm in my right mind. Then it passes off and I'm as intelligent as ever. -- Samuel Beckett, Endgame msg26008/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
