Re: r13362 'seriour error' bug
On 2 Jan 2012 Brian Bailey wrote: > 'serious error' at http://www.trustedreviews.com/images/ I'm still using r13355, as none of the builds since then seem to have affected the RISC OS version. This URL doesn't cause a crash for me, but gets a "page not found". With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: r13362 'seriour error' bug
On 2 Jan 2012 "Chris Young" wrote: > On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 08:33:20 GMT, Peter Young wrote: >> I'm still using r13355, as none of the builds since then seem to have >> affected the RISC OS version. > r13358 will affect the RISC OS version too (despite the log notes) Thanks, will go and download it. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: netsurf-users Digest, Vol 59, Issue 6
On 3 Apr 2012 wrote: > In article , Jim Nagel > wrote: >> evanal...@talktalk.net wrote on 29 Mar: How can one lng email with all the replies in all the threads which people haven't snipped repeated again and again possibly be less annoying than 40 emails? Just curious. >>> It is a matter of personal preference. For me I prefer the one long >>> digest rather than many emails. Obviously others prefer all the >>> single emails. >> Doesn't your email system have filters, Evan (and Allan and "m0n0")? >> A filter sends all those 40 Netsurf emails into a Netsurf folder. >> Then you just skim the subject lines and open only the ones that >> interest you. >> And with threading as well as a filter, you don't even see many >> subject lines. > As I said, its a matter of personal preference. Not everyone wants to > do as you do. > Why so evangelical? Because unformatted replies to digest messages are a fundamental pain, IMHO at any rate. :-( With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Hf \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Barclays internet banking has stopped working
On 17 Apr 2012 george greenfield wrote: > Hi > I'm using r13571 and since the last makeover of the Barclays internet > banking site, login fails just after the point where the pinsentry 2 x > 4-digit random number has been entered; hitting return used to gain > entry to the account home page, it now produces an 'Error 5. Internet > banking is not available' message. Logging in on a js-enabled > Firefox/WinPC is possible however, so the site does still work. > Has anyone managed to do internet banking with Barclays using NetSurf? There has been a lot about this on c.s.a.misc, and it seems that NetSurf can't access this site, as you say. Some people, not all, it seems, have got in using Fresco. It looks as if the days of doing internet banking with NetSurf are on the wane. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Hf \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Nervous tick
On 26 Apr 2012 Dave Higton wrote: > In message <86a88c8652.r...@user.minijem.plus.com> > Richard Porter wrote: >> On 26 Apr 2012 Tony Moore wrote: >> >>> On 26 Apr 2012, Richard Porter wrote: >> When Netsurf is displaying the following page and others on the same site the pointer starts flickering 2 or 3 times a second between a pointing hand and an hour glass. http://www.therailengineer.com/2012/04/26/bs11000-working-together-ach ieving-more/ >> >>> [snip] >> Currently using r13534. >> >>> No problem here with r13571 >> >> Still doing it for me now with r13571 > No such problem for me with r13571. If you look at at that page in Windows Firefox the top bit looks a bit different. I have neither the expertise, nor at the moment the time, to explore that any further, but perhaps an expert among you might find a clue that way? With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Hf \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Where's the bug tracker?
On 5 May 2012 Richard Porter wrote: > I'm currently getting "500 - Internal Server Error". > I have a problem with reloading a web page. Owing to an upload problem > there was an image file with zero length, so of course it didn't > display. I then uploaded the file correctly but I can't get the page > to reload the missing image. I have tried setting the cache to 0.0 MB. > I also tried Navigation > Reload this page ^F5 but to no avail. The > page now displays correctly in other browsers. http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?atid=464312&group_id=51719&func=browse working fine here. > Using r13571, RPC, RO6 Same release, RISC OS 5.19, ARMini. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Hf \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: can't get to ROOL site
On 25 Sep 2012 Jim Nagel wrote: > On the Netsurf 2.9 home page, clicking on the link to ROOL produces a > cryptic error: > Warning from Netsurf > "error setting certificate verify locations:" > (Nothing after the colon) > No idea what this means. The guys at ROOL say their SSL certificate > is unchanged and valid until the end of 2013. Besides, this link is > calling http, not https. (Using an Iyonix here, OS 5.18.) Works fine here with the same NetSurf and RISC OS 5.19, ARMini. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Changes at QVC
On 25 Sep 2012 Dave Symes wrote: > Oh dear, > Fay is not a happy person at the moment, apparently QVC have re-designed > their front page, and as she uses NetSurf (r13571) to view the stuff, > suddenly she can't see menus and such like that a couple of days ago she > could. > I have to assume it's something to do with more javascript, but way > outside my paygrade so to speak. > Could someone with knowledge please have a quick look at... > http://www.qvcuk.com > It's mainly the menus down the lefthand side. I don't have knowledge, but in so far as my knowledge goes, I've done a bit of furkling. Here, the menus on the left show briefly on loading, but are then overwritten by a blank pane. Looking at the source, (F8) it seems to teem with JavaScript indeed; StrongED reports "79 hits on 49 lines". I also looked on their FAQ page, on which is: To enjoy most of our content your browser must also be set to the following options: JavaScript enabled ActiveX enabled (Internet Explorer only) Pop-ups allowed from www.qvcuk.com So it looks as if it's a Dark Side only site, and that they have done the dreaded "In the interests of product improvement we reserve the right to foul it up at any time". There is a feedback option on the page, which of course doesn't work, and also a Contact Us option at the bottom, which does, but I fear that trying to persuade them that they've sinned might activate the GM again :-) Some sites have a "mobile" option, which sometimes works with NetSurf, but I can't see such a one there. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
On 29 Sep 2012 Paul Sprangers wrote: > Hi all, > Version 3.0 (development) seems to work fine (and fast) on my RISC OS 5.18 > computer. Keep up the good work (just add java script). Also here, ARMini, RISC OS 5.19. Glad to see that test builds are available again, many thanks. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
On 29 Sep 2012 Peter Young wrote: > On 29 Sep 2012 Paul Sprangers wrote: >> Hi all, >> Version 3.0 (development) seems to work fine (and fast) on my RISC OS 5.18 >> computer. Keep up the good work (just add java script). > Also here, ARMini, RISC OS 5.19. Glad to see that test builds are > available again, many thanks. Might have spoken too soon. I sent this message using Hermes, and when NewsHound kicked in, the machine froze. The message evidently went, but is still in Messenger Pro's queue. Going back to NetSurf 2.9 for the time being, I regret. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
On 29 Sep 2012 Michael Drake wrote: > In article <46b9e6d652.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, > Peter Young wrote: >> Might have spoken too soon. I sent this message using Hermes, and when >> NewsHound kicked in, the machine froze. > Thanks, can you say what versions of Hermes and NewsHound you have? Sorry, should have said. Hermes 2.65 (11 April, 2012) NewsHound 1.42 ( Can't find the date, as it removes itself from the icon bar too quickly!) Both in NetFetch 3.65 (26 April, 2012) With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
On 1 Oct 2012 Paul Sprangers wrote: > Initially, I wrote: >> Version 3.0 (development) seems to work fine (and fast) on my RISC OS >> 5.18 computer. Keep up the good work (just add java script). > However, today I needed to reset my computer (Iyonix, 5.18). Since then > every reset resulted in horrible freezes. Then I remembered the issue with > Hermes. I managed to go through the boot process by subsequent escape key > presses, and immediately quit !NetFetch. Then, I reverted to the NetSurf > developer build from March 23. Since then, everything goes fine again. > But there's definitely something nasty going on between the latest build of > NetSurf and NetFetch (3.65), I think. >From my experience I think the problem may well be with NewsHound, which is in NetFetch. Hermes was transferring normally, but when NewsHound chipped in the freeze happened. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: User feedback requested
On 2 Oct 2012 Gavin Wraith wrote: > Platform: RISC OS > using netsurf-2012-10-02_09-33-37/zip > RO 5.18 on Iyonix > Fault: NetSurf has to quit after rendering http://www.independent.co.uk/ Same here, ARMini, RISC OS 5.19 (16 May 2012). With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
On 2 Oct 2012 Michael Drake wrote: > In article <52d6e2c396t...@netsurf-browser.org>, >Michael Drake wrote: >> CAUTION: SAVE ALL WORK BEFORE RUNNING THESE BUILDS >> We have at least one case of NetSurf freezing a >> RISC OS Iyonix such that it needs to be reset. > We think this problem may gave been fixed by updating the autobuilder to > use the GCCSDK 4.1.2 v2 release. > Please could people who had the RISC OS 5 freeze problem test the latest > build from http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/riscos/ ? Having fully understood Vincent's warning, which has just arrived here, I can report this: I've been running the version in netsurf-2012-10-02_13-35-15/zip for several hours now, and have used pretty much the full range of apps that I usually use, and haven't had a freeze yet. ARMini, RISC OS 5.19 (16 May 2012). I've kept a copy of the latest (I think) 2.9, but the new one looks good so far; many thanks for the work. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: User feedback requested
On 2 Oct 2012 Chris Newman wrote: > In article <20121002174956.gb11...@kyllikki.org>, >Vincent Sanders wrote: >> Although this message is a reply to Mr Wild *everyone* should read it >> and understand what I am saying. >> I will endeavour to be as clear as I can be. If that comes across as >> overly abrupt I apologise but before any additional misunderstanding >> occurs I wish to make these points clear. >> * The Continuous Integration (CI) builds are produced for the >>NetSurf Developers. > >> A report that the additional resources mentioned in the readme were >> missing (which is now fixed BTW) would have been fine. The exact >> version used and other information would have been nice to have. > In the info window obtained from the iconbar icon, "Version" just gives 3.0 > (development). Is there a way of checking which version/build you are using > except noting at the time of downloading? It's in the name of the zip file, I think. > Thanks for all your hard work. Seconded. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Crashes on sites with frames
On 6 Oct 2012 Chris Gransden wrote: > Platform RISC OS > OS5.19 on Pandaboard > version netsurf-2012-10-06_14-18-18/zip > browsing http://www.archivemag.co.uk > error log Same here with RISC OS 5.19 on ARMini; NetSurf-2012-10-05_23-21-14/zip With best wishes, Peter. > Running thread 0x5d13f4 > ( 5d3868) pc: 45f160 lr:871bc sp: 5d386c __write_backtrace() > ( 5d3894) pc:87120 lr: 45faac sp: 5d3898 ro_gui_signal() > ( 5d38bc) pc: 45fa94 lr: 45f788 sp: 5d38c0 __unixlib_exec_sig() > ( 5d3934) pc: 45f278 lr: 48a90c sp: 5d3938 > __unixlib_raise_signal() > ( 5d3944) pc: 48a8f0 lr: 467308 sp: 5d3948 raise() > ( 5d3958) pc: 4672cc lr:bee40 sp: 5d395c abort() > ( 5d3978) pc:bed64 lr:beeb0 sp: 5d397c _talloc_memdup() > ( 5d3990) pc:bee80 lr:53090 sp: 5d3994 talloc_strdup() > ( 5d39f0) pc:52938 lr:534a0 sp: 5d39f4 box_create_frameset() > ( 5d3a10) pc:5340c lr:5002c sp: 5d3a14 box_frameset() > ( 5d3b90) pc:4fb1c lr:9a43c sp: 5d3b94 convert_xml_to_box() > ( 5d3bb0) pc:9a3f4 lr:887d0 sp: 5d3bb4 schedule_run() > ( 5d3e6c) pc:8864c lr:35eb0 sp: 5d3e70 gui_poll() > ( 5d3e84) pc:35e8c lr: a0d4 sp: 5d3e88 netsurf_main_loop() > ( 5d3fe8) pc: 9a84 lr: 46dafc sp: 5d3fec main()
Re: Crashes on sites with frames
On 6 Oct 2012 John-Mark Bell wrote: > On Sat, 2012-10-06 at 16:31 +0100, Chris Gransden wrote: >> Platform RISC OS >> OS5.19 on Pandaboard >> version netsurf-2012-10-06_14-18-18/zip >> browsing http://www.archivemag.co.uk >> error log > Fixed. So it is. Blimey, that was quick; many thanks! With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Shrunken search box in Wikipedia.
This is with the build in netsurf-2012-10-06_21-20-50/zip and on an ARMini, RISC OS 5.19, (16 May 2012). On http://www.wikipedia.org/ the search box, to the left of the menu where you choose the language, is now rather less that two characters wide. It's the normal size using NetSurf 2.9, so this has obviously crept in with the new series of builds. Would this be easy to fix? I for one would be grateful if it were. The good news is that while running a variety of the new builds for five days now I have had no more freezes. Many thanks for this. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Could someone look at
On 8 Oct 2012 lists wrote: > Could someone else take a look at: > http://www.audon.co.uk/usb_scopes/gcr101.html > Here it looks like the page is about 200 yards wide. > Netsurf 2.9 (27th Feb 2012) Yes, here too. ARMini, RISC OS 5.19, the NetSurf build in netsurf-2012-10-06_21-20-50/zip. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: NetSurf running out of memory
On 8 Oct 2012 John Rickman Iyonix wrote: > I have hit three more pages that give the out of memory message using > the latest test version (netsurf-2012-10-07_21-57-22/zip) > click on: http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/kinder.htm > This will show a page of images. > Click on either the bicycle or the kayak and (on my Iyonix running > 5.18) a warning message pops up saying that NetSurf is running out of > memory and the URL is not displayed. > If someone can confirm that this is not unique to my setup I will post > a bug report. Yes, it does that here too, ARMini, RISC OS 5.19 and the latest test-build. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Fetching NetSurf
On 13 Oct 2012 John Williams wrote: > If anyone RISC OS-side has a need for a new downloading app, I've put > mine at: > http://petit.four.free.fr/FetchNS.zip > It saves the latest version, if not already downloaded, in the directory > where you put it. > It uses the "LATEST" file the developers have thoughtfully provided. My old > version had to parse the old Builds page! A great idea, but not working for me; ARMini, RISC OS 5.19. Initially, I get the unhelpful message: 13 Oct 17:46:20 000 0168: Error from (unknown): Unknown operand and have discovered that the only system variable needed by either Fetch_NS or cURL (yes, it's in Boot.Library) is Fetch$Dir. Flailing round wildly in my ignorance, I ran the SetLatest BASIC program, so as to set the "Previous***" system variable, and Fetch_NS now runs but falls over with: pc:9da08 sp: 207f8c ^post_signal() pc:9dd14 sp: 207fa4 __unixlib_raise_signal() pc:f9ea4 sp: 206b54 __h_cback() pc:25008 sp: 206b70 strncasecmp() pc: ba3c sp: 206b80 ?() pc:32084 sp: 206e10 ?() pc:3368c sp: 206f60 ?() pc:b3950 sp: 206f78 _main() Termination signal received: Segmentation fault * Any ideas as to what is going on would be gratefully received! With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Fetching NetSurf
On 13 Oct 2012 cj wrote: > In article , > Peter Young wrote: >> Any ideas as to what is going on would be gratefully received! > Try going in to !Fetch_NS.!Run and change the line > If NetSurf$LatestVersion <> "" THEN Set NetSurf$PreviousVersion > > to > If "" <> "" THEN Set NetSurf$PreviousVersion > > It then works OK. Not here, I'm afraid. Made that change, and still get the "Unknown operand" error. Then I tried it on VRPC, RISC OS 4.02, and got the same error. > I have always had an automated way of upgrading NetSurf. So did I, and of course it no longer works. > It is possible to extend the !Run file to keep the previous > version(s) and automatically copy !NetSurf out of the archive etc. > Obey files can be very powerful! Yes. my script did that, and also kept the three previous zips as backups. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Fetching NetSurf
On 13 Oct 2012 cj wrote: > In article , > Peter Young wrote: >> Fetch_NS >> now runs but falls over with: >> pc:9da08 sp: 207f8c ^post_signal() >> pc:9dd14 sp: 207fa4 __unixlib_raise_signal() >> pc:f9ea4 sp: 206b54 __h_cback() >> pc:25008 sp: 206b70 strncasecmp() >> pc: ba3c sp: 206b80 ?() >> pc:32084 sp: 206e10 ?() >> pc:3368c sp: 206f60 ?() >> pc:b3950 sp: 206f78 _main() >> Termination signal received: Segmentation fault > This is cURL falling over. Is it ARMv7 compatible? I haven't tried > yet on the ARMini. I suspect it isn't compatible; I'll be interested to see what you got on the ARMini. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Fetching NetSurf
On 13 Oct 2012 Frank de Bruijn wrote: > In article <52de202c94netsurf-...@aconet.nl>, >Frank de Bruijn wrote: >> That part does, yes. Unfortunately, the next hurdle is curl itself. I >> tried four different versions. The oldest one didn't know the -k switch >> and the other three reported they 'Failed writing header'. That's on an >> Iyonix, by the way. > Never mind. I switched to wget. Just changed the 'curl' bits to wget and > the three options (-s -k -o) to the single -qO (that's an uppercase O by > the way) and that works like a charm. Done all that, as far as I can see, and still get the "unknown operand" error. wget 1.12 here. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Fetching NetSurf
On 14 Oct 2012 Richard Ashbery wrote: >>> And Netsurf 3.0 (Dev C1 #463) now works well, so more thanks. >> Ditto here. Thanks for #463 & Fetch_NS > Excellent utility John - great time saver - many thanks Bewilderment continues here, I'm afraid. It seems that my previous download was corrupted somehow, and there's potential for it working on the ARMini, but it does nothing at all on VRPC running RISC OS 4.02. On the ARMini it's evident that cURL doesn't work, and falls over with the error message I posted upthread, but there are two oddities. Even though cURL is in Boot.Library, Fetch_NS reports: 14 Oct 13:48:25 000 00D6: Error from Fetch latest NetSurf: File 'curl' not found unless I open the library so that cURL is booted. Then I get the error message when cURL doesn't work, then a very odd message: 4 Oct 14:28:59 000 00CC: Error from (unknown): File name '.' not recognise, in spite of: *show Fetch$Dir Fetch$Dir : SCSI::armini.$.Internet.!Fetch_NS and if I do a Filer_OpenDir on SCSI::armini.$.Internet.!Fetch_NS.^ (without the trailing dot) the correct directory opens, but not if it does have the trailing dot. Has anyone found an ARMini-compatible cURL yet? And why should I get the above two error messages? Or is it just not something that will work with an ARMini? With best wishes, Peter (a.k.a. puzzled of Cheltenham). -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Fetching NetSurf
On 14 Oct 2012 Peter Young wrote: > On 14 Oct 2012 Richard Ashbery wrote: >>>> And Netsurf 3.0 (Dev C1 #463) now works well, so more thanks. >>> Ditto here. Thanks for #463 & Fetch_NS >> Excellent utility John - great time saver - many thanks > Bewilderment continues here, I'm afraid. But no longer! I took up Frank's suggestion of replacing cURL with wget, and it now works, very fast too; sorry to have wittered on so much! Also, I had been expecting task windows to open, which added to the mystification. If I can get a round tuit (or preferably someone who understands things better could get one of those), would there be interest in adding bits to the program, similar to the bits I had in my old script? What these did is: 1) Copy the old NetSurf as Old_NS (note the lack of pling) and then delete the old app. 2) Do sequential deletes and copies so that the last three zips are kept for backup. 3) Open the new zip and copy out the app to the directory in which the script is. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Fetching NetSurf
On 14 Oct 2012 cj wrote: > In article <8ff38ede52.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, > Peter Young wrote: >> would there be interest in >> adding bits to the program, similar to the bits I had in my old >> script? > I have a script that does that and more, although I need to extend it > to deal with the case when the latest version hasn't changed. Contact > me privately in a day or so - I may have a round tuit by then. That sounds interesting, and I will do that. I was tempted to fiddle with my script, but you know what you're doing and I don't! That all assumes, though, that the other problems get sorted by then. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Fetching NetSurf
On 14 Oct 2012 cj wrote: > In article , > Peter Young wrote: >> unless I open the library so that cURL is booted. > Are you putting the curl *binary* in to Boot:Library? If you are > putting the !cURL *application* in Boot:Library it will not work > because nothing in Boot:Library is booted at boot time. Either > extract the cURL binary from the app and put in to Library or put the > !cURL application in to eg Boot:Resources, where the app will be > booted. Yes, I wondered about that, and tried both ways; neither of them worked on the ARMini. Has anyone got cURL working on a similar machine? Even odder: I was able to make Fetch_NS work using wget before I had to go out. After coming back and re-starting the machine, it now fails again with the "File name 'SCSI::armini.$.Internet.!Fetch_NS.^.". (I managed to garble this message upthread.) Please, someone, tell me what I'm doing wrong! I'll have to go out again later this evening, so won't have time for more experiments today. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Fetching NetSurf
On 14 Oct 2012 Peter Young wrote: [snip] > Even odder: I was able to make Fetch_NS work using wget before I had > to go out. After coming back and re-starting the machine, it now fails > again with the "File name 'SCSI::armini.$.Internet.!Fetch_NS.^.". (I > managed to garble this message upthread.) Please, someone, tell me > what I'm doing wrong! The strangeness continues! I did a re-start, and now it works again! I would have a stiff drink if I didn't have to drive later :-) A friend insists that computers are full of fairy dust, and I'm beginning to believe her! With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Fetching NetSurf
On 14 Oct 2012 Richard Ashbery wrote: > In article , Peter Young > wrote: >> On 14 Oct 2012 Richard Ashbery wrote: >>>>> And Netsurf 3.0 (Dev C1 #463) now works well, so more thanks. >>>> Ditto here. Thanks for #463 & Fetch_NS >>> Excellent utility John - great time saver - many thanks >> Bewilderment continues here, I'm afraid. It seems that my previous >> download was corrupted somehow, and there's potential for it >> working on the ARMini, but it does nothing at all on VRPC running >> RISC OS 4.02. > Peter - what I didn't clarify is that John's utility and curl works > correctly on the Iyonix (RISC OS 5.18) but not on BB (RISC OS 5.19). I > get the same "segmentation fault" you highlighted earlier. > Would be nice to see curl work on ARMv7. Thanks, and agreed, but wget is doing the business for me now, at least some of the time! If I felt stronger, I might have tried cURL under Aemulor. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Unable to access the Internet with recent RISCOS test builds
On 26 Oct 2012 Alan Leighton wrote: > In message > David Pitt wrote: >> Rob Kendrick, on 26 Oct, wrote: >>> On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 12:56:17PM +1300, Alan & Sally wrote: Hi CJ, > With all the complexes of the number of 'releases ' what issue do you > recommend for an Iyonix 5.18 to a layman like me? I use March 23 > r13571. For a 5.18 user, I'd recommend Chris Johnson's adaptation of Fetch_NS, which was mentioned in the "Fetching NetSurf" thread, and which he will send you if you ask him. This checks whether there is a new version, and, if there is, downloads, installs and runs it. This works perfectly for me. Slight warning: it doesn't look as if anything is happening till the new version suddenly springs into life. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Unable to access the Internet with recent RISCOS test builds
On 26 Oct 2012 cj wrote: > In article <7429a0e452.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, > Peter Young wrote: >> Slight warning: it doesn't look as if anything is happening till >> the new version suddenly springs into life. > If you have the directory, in which Fetch_NS is located, open, do you > not see the new zip file appear as it is downloaded, the icon change > to a zip, when the download is finished, Netsurf disappear from > iconbar, the zip file deleted, then new version reappear on the > iconbar? If there is not a new version, then certainly there is no > visible sign of action - perhaps an error box? - but then that > requires a user to dismiss it again. There will be periods of > inactivity of a few seconds, since NS does take a wee while to quit, > and to start up again. Sorry, I put it slightly misleadingly. What I meant is "unless you know what to look for, apparently nothing happens". It took me some time to realise that I could indeed see all the things you mention. It is slightly unnerving, though, to wait for the time that NS takes to quit and start up, and I thought I was getting more patient in my old age! With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Text box edit
On 27 Oct 2012 Dave Symes wrote: > In article <52e55560eerh.li...@phone.coop>, >Russell Hafter - Lists wrote: > [Snippy] >> The following failed: RBS + NatWest (UK) (unsupported >> browser), Cumberland Building Society Business Banking (UK) >> (Virtual keypad does not work), HSBC (France) (Returns to >> Login Screen), Citibank (Belgium) (Blank Screen), >> Postfinance (Switzerland) (JavaScript required). >> I imagine most others would fail too, for any number of >> reasons, not necessarily scripting. > LloydsTSB and Halifax can be added to that list Russell. Also HSBC (UK) and ING. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Strange rendering problem
On 5 Nov 2012 Richard Porter wrote: > Open the following web page: > http://www.studiospares.com/search?q=tascam&perpage=10&ivtype=soundcards > The chances are you'll see blank rectangles in the central bit. The > nav-bar down the left is probably OK. Now wipe another window over the > NetSurf window. As you move the other window aside content will be > revealed. However if you just put the window to the back it will leave > white space where it was. > #596 on RO6.16 Slight difference here, NetSurf #598 and RISC OS 5.19 on an ARMini. On loading the central content appears briefly, and is then overwritten by the blank rectangle. Putting the window to the back doesn't leave the blank rectangle in place, though. The window swipe works just as you say. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
On 22 Nov 2012 Bryan Hogan wrote: > In message <60245ff252.harr...@blueyonder.co.uk> > Harriet Bazley wrote: >> Is anyone else seeing this behaviour? > Yes, most of my Hotlist has vanished too :-( > Looking at the Hotlist file it is not corrupted, the html is > perfectly formed, it's just missing all but the first 35ish > entries. And have had that recently happen here, too. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
On 22 Nov 2012 Tony Moore wrote: > On 22 Nov 2012, Daniel Silverstone wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 10:43:24AM +, Tony Moore wrote: >>> On 22 Nov 2012, Daniel Silverstone >>> wrote: We did recently rewrite the hotlist code, >>> What was the first #number of this change? >> >> I do not recall. It was done not long after the hack weekend > That, I believe, was 3-4 Nov 2012. > Using RO6.20: > When quitting NetSurf #600 (5 Nov 2012), it consistently re-writes my > Hotlist as a 90K file. > When quitting NetSurf #659 (18 Nov 2012), it consistently re-writes my > Hotlist as an 89K file. > The difference in file-lengths seems to be caused by #600 writing & > whereas #659 writes & , however I can't persuade either NetSurf version > to truncate the Hotlist. Whereas with #665 and RISC OS 5.19 on an ARMini, while I did have the file truncated a while ago, it doesn't seem to be happening now. Not, at least, till the fairy dust that a friend is sure inhabits all computers sees this message :-) With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
On 22 Nov 2012 Peter Young wrote: [snip] > Whereas with #665 and RISC OS 5.19 on an ARMini, while I did have the > file truncated a while ago, it doesn't seem to be happening now. Not, > at least, till the fairy dust that a friend is sure inhabits all > computers sees this message :-) That happened sooner than I expected! I imported a 32K hotlist from the backup of the late Iyo, and ran NetSurf, and then quitted it. There was a bleep, and 32K suddenly became 8K. Is it something to do with the size of the hotlist perhaps? Looking back, I have had a couple of unexplained bleeps when shutting down the machine, and I now know why! With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
On 22 Nov 2012 Peter Young wrote: > On 22 Nov 2012 Peter Young wrote: > [snip] >> Whereas with #665 and RISC OS 5.19 on an ARMini, while I did have the >> file truncated a while ago, it doesn't seem to be happening now. Not, >> at least, till the fairy dust that a friend is sure inhabits all >> computers sees this message :-) > That happened sooner than I expected! I imported a 32K hotlist from > the backup of the late Iyo, and ran NetSurf, and then quitted it. > There was a bleep, and 32K suddenly became 8K. Is it something to do > with the size of the hotlist perhaps? > Looking back, I have had a couple of unexplained bleeps when shutting > down the machine, and I now know why! It gets even odder. I tried today to do something I've done many times before, so that I could search the global history. What I do is to open the global history from the icon bar icon, do menu over the history > History > Export, and drag the file to the icon bar icon. This opens the hotlist in HTML, and you can then use the search option. Today, when I got to the stage of dragging the icon to the icon bar I get the weird error message "Unable to save the hotlist", (yes, hotlist!) with a beep, but NetSurf doesn't crash. I have the logfile, and will report this on the bug-tracker, in the hope that this possibly might shed some light on what's going on. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
On 22 Nov 2012 Peter Young wrote: [snip] > It gets even odder. I tried today to do something I've done many times > before, so that I could search the global history. What I do is to > open the global history from the icon bar icon, do menu over the > history > History > Export, and drag the file to the icon bar icon. > This opens the hotlist in HTML, and you can then use the search > option. Today, when I got to the stage of dragging the icon to the > icon bar I get the weird error message "Unable to save the hotlist", > (yes, hotlist!) with a beep, but NetSurf doesn't crash. I have the > logfile, and will report this on the bug-tracker, in the hope that > this possibly might shed some light on what's going on. I tried to add a comment to the bug report, and got a page saying "XSRF Attempt Detected!". What am I doing wrong? I tried to correct the wording of the error message, which is "The hotlist was unable to be saved properly". From what I can see, the already truncated hotlist seem to be intact, With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
On 22 Nov 2012 Michael Drake wrote: > In article <60245ff252.harr...@blueyonder.co.uk>, >Harriet Bazley wrote: >> Recently I've been suffering increasingly frequent corruption of my >> NetSurf hotlist > The hotlist gets truncated when it fails to save one of the entries. > Since hotlist load/save was ported from libxml to libdom it has failed to > handle HTML entities. So the hotlist will get truncated before the first > entry to contain an "unusual" character. > The beep is because NetSurf opens a warning dialogue box to report the > problem, although since it is quitting, you won't get a chance to see it > before NetSurf quits. > In article <8f7cb4f252.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, >Peter Young wrote: >> What I do is to open the global history from the icon bar icon, do menu >> over the history > History > Export, and drag the file to the icon bar >> icon. > That's the same problem. The warning mentions the hotlist because global > history and hotlist share the same code for saving. Thanks for the explanation. I imagine it's being worked on, so I will be patient. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: #670
On 23 Nov 2012 John Williams wrote: > 'Bad encoding' failure, apparent with earlier recent builds, now precludes > access to Google! > Fonts rescanned each time - perhaps a stricter font check? Not so here; ARMini RISC OS 5.19. No font scanning, and gets into http://www.google.co.uk/ with no trouble. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
BBC news site misbehaving.
I have just downloaded #672 and ran it. I was horrified at the hash it made of my homepage, which is http://m.bbc.co.uk/news I reverted to #671, and it looks the same there. It renders perfectly in Windows Firefox. The same sort of rubbish is visible on our local BBC Gloucestershire site, so presumably the BBC web-people think they've been clever again. I rather incline to thinking that it's hardly worth raising a bug report on this, but will do so if people think it's worth it. In the meanwhile, I've changed my homepage. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: BBC news site misbehaving.
On 26 Nov 2012 Michael Drake wrote: > In article <6162c5f452.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, > Peter Young wrote: >> I have just downloaded #672 and ran it. I was horrified at the hash it >> made of my homepage, which is http://m.bbc.co.uk/news > I'm not sure if I'm getting the same thing you are. I just get the mobile > version of their site. Yes, that's what I get, I think. > It seems they've started sending the mobile version if the browser's > useragent string contains "armv5l", which NetSurf's does when running on > the Iyonix hardware. Is there anything that can be done about that? I imagine not. > NetSurf on x86 linux gets the desktop site. So does Windows Firefox, as I mentioned. Thanks for the feedback, With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Unknown
On 26 Nov 2012 David Pitt wrote: > NetSurf #673 seems to have an aversion to all local html files, A "Warning > from Netsurf" box opens which just reports "Unknown". This occurs on the > ARMini and OS4.39 on VRPC. #672 is OK! > All I could find in the log is :- > (1.76) riscos/gui.c warn_user 2308: Unknown (null) > The complete log is at http://pittdj.co.uk/temp/unknown.zip with a > minimalist html file sufficient to show the problem. Up to #674 here by now (they keep coming thick and fast; many thanks!) and a local file on my HD renders fine for me. ARMini, RISC OS 5.19. No idea why. Very amateur home-brewed HTML, by the way! With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: BBC news site misbehaving.
On 26 Nov 2012 Chris Gransden wrote: > In article <7360d8f452.r...@user.minijem.plus.com>, >> I suggest we all send feedback to the BBC News site and if that >> doesn't work raise a complaint. > If you use http://m.bbc.co.uk/home/desktop you'll get the correct page > clicking on 'News'. So it does! Many thanks for pointing this out. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: BBC news site misbehaving.
On 26 Nov 2012 Richard Porter wrote: > On 26 Nov 2012 Chris Gransden wrote: >> In article <7360d8f452.r...@user.minijem.plus.com>, >>> I suggest we all send feedback to the BBC News site and if that >>> doesn't work raise a complaint. >> If you use http://m.bbc.co.uk/home/desktop you'll get the correct page >> clicking on 'News'. > I spoke too soon. I think cookies are coming into play here. It was > working OK, I deleted all the bbc cookies and it went wrong again, > even for the main bbc web site. Well, blow me down with a feather! I got in using the above URL and then going to News. I haven't deleted any cookies, and I'm now getting the "proper" site without using the desktop link. I'll have to check it again tomorrow. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: RISC OS Javascript support
On 14 Dec 2012 Vincent Sanders wrote: > Thankyou for all your feedback. [snip] > Sorry this was not more useful at this time but I do feel progress is > being made albeit slowly. At the very least it's a start, and a lot sooner than we had all expected. Many thanks for the work so far, and looking forward to progress when it's possible, and not before! With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Javascript and Fonts
On 15 Dec 2012 John Rickman Iyonix wrote: > Harriet Bazley wrote >> On 15 Dec 2012 as I do recall, >> Gavin Wraith wrote: >>> Using NetSurf 3 #739. Wonderful to have some Javascript working, >>> enough at least to show Greek text in http://memiyawanzi.wordpress.com/ . >> That's not Javascript... that's just Unicode :-) >> Seeing the same thing here in RISC OS 5 with no Javascript > Looks more complete on linux raspberry Pi Chromium Chromium browser. > On RISC OS the accented characters appear as hex couplets. It's all Greek here (and Greek to me!) on an ARMini, RISC OS 5.19. Perhaps you don't have the necessary font? With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Javascript and Fonts
On 16 Dec 2012 John Rickman Iyonix wrote: > Peter Young wrote >>> Looks more complete on linux raspberry Pi Chromium Chromium browser. >>> On RISC OS the accented characters appear as hex couplets. >> It's all Greek here (and Greek to me!) on an ARMini, RISC OS 5.19. >> Perhaps you don't have the necessary font? > Probably:-( I have DoulosSIL which I thought was a comprehensive > Unicode font. But among other things, it does not appear to have a > glyph for: " Greek Small Letter Iota with acute accent U+03AF " > What font are you using? I'm using Cyberbit here, It's a freeware TTF font that I converted to RISC OS format using !TTF2f, which app as far as I remember ran on my late Iyo; it certainly runs on this ARMini. From my hazy memory, DoulosSIL mainly deals with diacritics of languages like Czech, though this might be my mistake. I don't think it's a full Unicode font, anyway. Cyberbit has omissions, where occasionally characters appear as hex couplets, but is pretty wide-ranging. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: RISC OS Javascript support
On 16 Dec 2012 Vincent Sanders wrote: > OK, the CI system just built #740 with a spidermonkey 1.8.5 library > with the JIT disabled as suggested by Chris Gransden. Can this be > tried by someone with access to RISC OS? and please be aware this may > well behave very badly indeed. > If this fails I have now successfully built 1.7.0 for RISC OS (though > not run tested) so the possibility of using an older known working > version exists. > Please remember to enable javascript via the nice shiny new > configuration interface Steve Fryatt has provided. Just downloaded this build; ARMini, RISC OS 5.19, (16 May 2012). Mixed results, but not helped much because I don't really know what I'm looking for!. All my usual pages seem to work OK: www.groups.google.com/ looks as if it's repeatedly trying to load and failing; this worked with previous builds. http://www.mssociety.org.uk/near-me/branches/cheltenham-and-north-cotswold-branch (sorry, should be all one line) still doesn't format as it does in Windows Firefox; the "About us" and "Contact" should be two separate tabs; no idea if this is a JavaScript thing. http://www.metcheck.com/UK/today.asp?zipcode=GL52%203DS is still missing a lot of detail compared with Firefox, and the "Conf" icons down the right hand side deliver only a part of their content. Like many others I'm very grateful that JavaScript is being worked on, but I think there's still a way to go. If testing by an ignoramus is worth it, please suggest to me some other sites to try. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: RISC OS Javascript support
On 16 Dec 2012 John Harrison wrote: >>> OK, the CI system just built #740 >> Bad news - loops on Iyonix, needs alt-break to stop. > That's odd. 740 has been happily running here in Iyonix (5.18) since I > downloaded it earlier. Presumably it matters which home page one is using. I use http:/m.bbc.co.uk/home/desktop as suggested elsethread. I've certainly seen the failure to load that people report on google groups, but that doesn't lock the machine. ARMini, RISC OS 5.19 With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Unicode on local pages
On 16 Dec 2012 John Rickman Iyonix wrote: > Brian Howlett wrote >> On 16 Dec, Gavin Wraith wrote: >>> With NetSurf #739. If I browse >>> http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01. >>> 0173%3Atext%3DSym. it displays OK. If I save or do a full save of the >>> page, and then browse the resulting local page the Greek text displays >>> as garbage. Why is there a difference? >> All I get from that page after the header is "We're sorry, but we were >> unable to find a document matching your query." >> Iyonix, RISC OS 5.18 and NS #743. > Brian - the link is split over two lines in the Messenger mail editor. > I copied it out to StrongED and clicked on it as one line ok. Only if you include the full stop at the end of that URL. I originally got the "We're sorry..." message, as I assumed that a URL didn't usually have a full stop at the end of it! With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Serious error
On 21 Dec 2012 Dave Higton wrote: > In message <5301b9730dbbai...@argonet.co.uk> > Brian Bailey wrote: >> Serious error and crash, >> >> http://lightroomkillertips.com/2010/presets-the-trick-to-getting-good- >> prints/ >> >> RISC OS 4.02 NetSurf #749 > OK for me, #749, with Javascript enabled or not. Iyonix, 5.18, 512 MiB. Bug report submitted. Here, ARMini, RISC OS 5.19, crashes with JavaScript enabled, OK with it disabled. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Bug tracker misbehaving.
I've just wasted quite a bit of time trying and failing to report a bug using RISC OS NetSurf #749; yes, I did remember to disable JavaScript! The attempt to upload the report produced an obscure error message in a NetSurf page, and I regret I forgot to record this. The report has duly been sent via Windows Firefox. A happy New Year to the developers, whose efforts are greatly appreciated. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Bug tracker misbehaving.
On 29 Dec 2012 Martin Bazley wrote: > The following bytes were arranged on 28 Dec 2012 by Peter Young : >> The attempt to upload the report produced an obscure error message in >> a NetSurf page, and I regret I forgot to record this. > Luckily, you were not so neglectful the last time you made exactly the > same complaint on this very list: > http://vlists.pepperfish.net/pipermail/netsurf-users-netsurf-browser.o > rg/2012-November/011272.html > Data submission in general appears to have been seriously broken in the > test builds. 2.9 doesn't have these problems. Thanks for reminding me. I still have 2.9 here; now, how do I remember to use it for reporting bugs? With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Save hotlist bug fixed.
RISC OS build #755. The bug which truncated saves of the hotlist and global history has been fixed. Many thanks to jmb. My full hotlist has been restored from a backup, and has been successfully added to. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: NetSurf text area editing crashes
On 7 Jan 2013 Bryan Hogan wrote: > The problem with NetSurf crashing when editing text boxes has been > around for several years: > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2943862%20&group_id=51 > 719&atid=464312 > (and several other entries in the bug tracker) > Is it specific to NetSurf on RISC OS or does it affect all > versions? Is it being actively looked into? The simple work-round is to compose your text in your favourite text editor, save it, and drop the saved file into the text box. If you use StrongED or Zap you can then check the spelling first, which some of us are in need of doing. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Controlling Javascript -- button suggestion
On 14 Jan 2013 John Rickman Iyonix wrote: > Jim Nagel wrote >> Using build 797 at the moment, on both RiscPC 4.39 and Iyonix 5.18. > did you mean #787? Why? I'm currently on #809, downloaded this morning by the invaluable Fetch_NS. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Controlling Javascript
On 16 Jan 2013 Steve Fryatt wrote: > On 14 Jan, Harriet Bazley wrote in message > : [snip] >> Otherwise I'm not aware of any other mechanism for discerning which of the >> versions you have (other than a much larger !RunImage on disc!) > Don't the infobox strings differ? I've not got RISC OS in front of me at > present, so I can't check. No, they don't. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Toolbar Customisation
On 21 Jan 2013 "Ken Ellis" wrote: > I am trying to use Netsurf on a Raspberry Pi and I am having trouble > understanding parts of the Netsurf User Guide. There, Under Toolbar > Customisation, is this passage: > 'To move the icons around , enable toolbar edit mode by clicking > menu over the toolbar and choosing "Edit toolbar". This will > open the toolbar editing panel.' > I don't understand what is meant by 'clicking menu over the toolbar'. > All I can see above the toolbar is the usual menu list of File Edit > View Navigate and Help. I have tried a right click on the toolbar, but > nothing happens. > The other point I am having trouble with is when discussing Toolbar > Icons the guide refers to 'Adjust Click' and 'Select Click'. I have > not met these terms. Select, Menu and Adjust are the three mouse buttons, from left to right. Standard RISC OS usage; perhaps you need a RISC OS manual! With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Toolbar Customisation
On 23 Jan 2013 Jim Nagel wrote: > Ken Ellis wrote on 21 Jan: >> I am trying to use Netsurf on a Raspberry Pi ... > Essential point: which OS are you using on your Pi? Netsurf comes in > versions for RiscOS, Linux and others. > Select, Menu and Adjust are the standard RiscOS names for the three > buttons on a mouse. (If mouse has a scrollwheel, that usually serves > as the middle button, Menu.) Good point, Jim lad, but if his help file mentions Select, Adjust and Menu, then that suggests that Ken is using RISC OS :-) With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: JS not enabled message with JS enabled NetSurf
On 29 Jan 2013 lists wrote: > Going to the login page of > https://login.yahoo.com/config/login? > I enter my details and after a few moments it comes back and says "This > page requires that you have Javascrift enabled on you browser" > I am using JSon version 3.0 (Dev C1 #840) and "Disable Javascript" is not > ticked. I don't think the developers, who are doing an excellent job, would for a moment say that the JavaScript support is in any way complete. If you post a bug report about this, together with a logfile, I'm sure that would help them to discover what the problem might be. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Iconv 0.12 released
On 30 Jan 2013 Rev Dr Alan Leighton wrote: > In message <39eb151653.c.n@virgin.net> > ChrisF wrote: >> In message <1359504204.31757.24.camel@duiker> >> John-Mark Bell wrote: >>> Version 0.12 of the Iconv module is now available for download. This is >>> a recommended update for all users - new builds of NetSurf will require >>> it. >> Hi, >> I notice the Stubs folder. >> After Boot and System merging, can I remove the Stubs folder from my >> computer or should it be stored somewhere, and if so where? > Have you the down load address please It's in John-Mark's message upthread. In case this one didn;t get to you, it's http://www.netsurf-browser.org/projects/iconv/ With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: XSRF Attempt Detected!
On 5 Feb 2013 Martin Bazley wrote: > The following bytes were arranged on 5 Feb 2013 by Richard Porter : >> I tried to report a bug on SourceForge and got the following response >> after submitting the form: >> >> XSRF Attempt Detected! >> >> What is an XSRF attempt? > Old, old, old bug: > http://vlists.pepperfish.net/pipermail/netsurf-users-netsurf-browser.o > rg/2012-November/011272.html > It's not just SourceForge - many other websites are similarly afflicted. > Reverting to 2.9 fixes it. It's not happening here with development builds. At least, it didn't on 31 January when I submitted a bug using build #843. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: FetchNS
On 12 Feb 2013 Brian Howlett wrote: > (Posting here because I can't remember where I got it) > I use FetchNS to download the latest versions of Netsurf, but I have > to manually finish off the installation due to this error - > Error from (unknown): Parameter expansion contains unrecognised > characters > By this time it has downloaded the latest zip file and quit NS (if > running) so I just have to manually install the latest version. > Does anyone else get this or have I missed something in the setup? It works faultlessly here. One of the problems seems to be that there are several different version of it knocking around. I can't see anything in the Help file that says I couldn't send my working copy to Brian; does anyone know better? Possibly relevant: In the Help file here, it says, "Lastly, if the variable Fetch_NS$Install$Dir is set, it will install and start the version just retrieved". Where this variable is set depends on which version you have. Here, that is set in !Fetch_NS's Choices directory, in !Boot.Choices, in the file called Settings, which is run by !Fetch_NS.!Run, and it reads: Set Fetch_NS$Install$Dir .^ but I can't remember how I set it! This installs NetSurf in the parent directory of Fetch_NS, which is where I keep all my internet stuff. It's an invaluable app, but the method of setting it up isn't obvious to the uninitiated! As supplied, the app sets a directory specific to the author in the Resources.Defaults file , and you have to comment this line out With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: FetchNS
On 13 Feb 2013 Rev Dr Alan Leighton wrote: [snip] > Hi Peter, > Mine is dated 11/2/09. Have you an up to date one as it loads March 12 Replied off-list, as it's rather off-topic. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Ctrl-arrow keys confused / Sourceforge
On 17 Feb 2013 Jim Nagel wrote: > Steve Fryatt wrote on 17 Feb: >> You've said this before; have you submitted a bug report? > Had nil response last time I said it. > Have put bug-report on Sourceforge page now. > (Sourceforge takes a little getting-head-round. A feature request I > submitted some while ago was marked "5", which in the absence of any > explanation I took to mean 5 messages in the thread, but could not > figure out how to read the thread. In fact I could not tell whether > this item in the list was the feature request I had submitted or > whether it was a similar idea from somebody else -- a lot of folks > there seem to be called Nobody.) I think the "5" is a measure of priority, on a scale of one to ten. Five seems to be the default. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Latest builds crash when opening hotlist/history pages
On 19 Feb 2013 Harriet Bazley wrote: > Builds json-904 and json-904 both crash when I double-click on a hotlist > or browsing history entry with a stack backtrace along the following > lines: Yes, confirmed that this happens on this ARMini; #898 is OK, though. Which one of us will submit a bug report? With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Latest builds crash when opening hotlist/history pages
On 19 Feb 2013 Peter Young wrote: > On 19 Feb 2013 Harriet Bazley > wrote: >> Builds json-904 and json-904 both crash when I double-click on a hotlist >> or browsing history entry with a stack backtrace along the following >> lines: > Yes, confirmed that this happens on this ARMini; #898 is OK, though. > Which one of us will submit a bug report? I've reported it, with a characteristic typo in the description field. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Latest builds crash when opening hotlist/history pages
On 20 Feb 2013 Harriet Bazley wrote: > On 19 Feb 2013 as I do recall, > Peter Young wrote: >> On 19 Feb 2013 Peter Young wrote: >> >>> On 19 Feb 2013 Harriet Bazley >>> wrote: >> >>>> Builds json-904 and json-904 both crash when I double-click on a hotlist >>>> or browsing history entry with a stack backtrace along the following >>>> lines: >> >>> Yes, confirmed that this happens on this ARMini; #898 is OK, though. >>> Which one of us will submit a bug report? >> >> I've reported it, with a characteristic typo in the description field. >> > Thanks. It's amazing how dependent on hotlists one becomes! And it's been fixed already! Many thanks to jmb. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: #910
On 19 Feb 2013 John Williams wrote: > #910 breaks Google - form submission doesn't work! Confirmed here. Whose turn is it to submit a bug report? I will run out of time today. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: #910
On 19 Feb 2013 John Williams wrote: > #910 breaks Google - form submission doesn't work! Whatever it was that was causing it (and the Google page was looking rather different when the submission didn't work) it now seems to be OK in #913. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Failure to post bug report.
I've been trying to post this to the bug tracker: [quote] NetSurf #942 and ARMini, RISC OS 5.19 (16 May 2012). Trying to access http://www.document-records.com/ fails. It gets stuck on "Fetching, Fetching, Processing"; no timeout after two minutes, after which I got bored. This is with JavaScript either on or off. It works on Windows Firefox [unquote] with a zipped logfile 10K in size. I get the dreaded "XSRF Attempt detected" message. Please, what am I doing wrong? With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Failure to post bug report.
On 24 Feb 2013 David Pitt wrote: > Peter Young, on 24 Feb, wrote: >> I've been trying to post this to the bug tracker: >> >> [quote] >> >> NetSurf #942 and ARMini, RISC OS 5.19 (16 May 2012). >> >> Trying to access http://www.document-records.com/ fails. It gets stuck on >> "Fetching, Fetching, Processing"; no timeout after two minutes, after >> which I got bored. This is with JavaScript either on or off. It works on >> Windows Firefox > This problem starts with #911, #910 renders the site promptly. > (I have failed to find a way to see changes prior to #917 on Jenkins.) Also, it seems now that you need to use an older version of NetSurf to post a bug report! I've just posted the report using a copy of #723 that I have lying around. BTW, who or what is Jenkins? With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Failure to post bug report.
On 25 Feb 2013 Chris Newman wrote: > In article , > Peter Young wrote: >> I've been trying to post this to the bug tracker: >> [quote] >> NetSurf #942 and ARMini, RISC OS 5.19 (16 May 2012). >> Trying to access http://www.document-records.com/ fails. It gets stuck >> on "Fetching, Fetching, Processing"; no timeout after two minutes, >> after which I got bored. This is with JavaScript either on or off. It >> works on Windows Firefox > Using #948 ditto with these... > http://www.georgesregisjazzband.com/ > http://www.document-records.com/ > Can others verify this, please? What's going on? BTW I managed to report the bug using an older version of NetSurf; #723 it was, which I happened to have lying around. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Failure to post bug report.
On 26 Feb 2013 Dave Higton wrote: > In message > Peter Young wrote: >> BTW I managed to report the bug using an older version of NetSurf; #723 it >> was, which I happened to have lying around. > I've just submitted a bug report using #949 json (JS enabled). Thanks. Whatever the problem is, it looks as if it's being worked on. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: BBC News websites
On 7 Mar 2013 Richard Porter wrote: > On 7 Mar 2013 Alan Calder wrote: >> Just tried using the BBC News link on Netsurf's home page (the out of the >> box version) NS 2.9. >> Works fine, taking me automatically to http://m.bbc.co.uk/news , which I >> assume to be the mobile version. Not pretty but it is usable. > That is precisely the problem. We want the desktop version, not the > mobile version. If I want m.bbc.co.uk I can request m.bbc.co.uk. FWIW the development versions access the "proper" BBC sites with no problem. I can't remember the last time I had a catastrophic failure with these versions, and the occasional failure to access a site can be useful to the developers, as long as one files a bug report. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: blank PHP output from Telephone Preference Service
On 15 Mar 2013 Jim Nagel wrote: > The Telephone Preference Service website (www.tpsonline.co.uk) > produces a blank page in Netsurf. The URL bar changes to show that > it's PHP. > Netsurf build #891 here on Iyonix 5.1 -- same behaviour whether > Javascript on or off. > The only item visible is smallprint links at the top right of the > blank acre: "Contact | Make a complaint | Privacy & cookies" and > Netsurf at bottom left reporting "Done (0.8s)". > The Google search for "telephone preference service" also shows a > half-dozen sub-pages at the TPS site -- all blank in Netsurf. Even more curious. If you look at that page in Windows Firefox it looks suspiciously like a phishing page, with links "Related searches, Loans, Mortgages, Credit Cards, Insurance". It's still a pretty skeletal page, and none of the links work, perhaps because I use Ghostery, which makes me more suspicious of this page. However, http://www.tpsonline.org.uk/tps/index.html also produces a skeletal page in NetSurf, and I've reported this on the bug-tracker. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Find !Fetch_NS
On 18 Mar 2013 John Rickman Iyonix wrote: > Michael Drake wrote >> In article <532e67d218cvj...@waitrose.com>, >>Chris Newman wrote: >>> I've lost the link to !Fetch_NS. >> Out of interest, why don't people just visit >> http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/riscos/?C=M;O=D >> And download either of the top two archives (depending on whether they >> want a JavaScript build), and run it like any other peice of software? >> At least they'll know what software they're running if they fetched it >> themselves. > Its because, on a good day**, it will automatically delete the current > version of NetSurf and replace it with the latest version if it has > changed. I totally agree with this reason for using Fetch_NS. Mind you, I think there are more than one version of it floating around; the one I have says it's version 2.10, but I can't remember who wrote this. It's certainly very different from the original version. A note in the !Run file says, "This is a seriously modified version of John Williams' Fetch_NS." > FWIW I always look at the development site to see what has changed. If > NS has changed and the change is likely to be relevant to RISC OS then > I run the fetch program. Pardon my ignorance, but where can find what has changed? I've looked for this, but have never found it, not that it would make a whole lot of sense to me, perhaps! > ** on a bad day the fetch works but the fetcher stops saying it can't > find the file it has just down loaded. (...vita brevis est) Never had that happen here! With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Find !Fetch_NS
On 18 Mar 2013 John Rickman Iyonix wrote: > Peter Young wrote >> Pardon my ignorance, but where can find what has changed? I've looked >> for this, but have never found it, not that it would make a whole lot >> of sense to me, perhaps! > http://git.netsurf-browser.org/ Thanks, I had in fact found that. I'm sure it means something to somebody, but as I rather expected ... I'll leave it all to the experts, and will continue to be grateful to the expert developers. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Find !Fetch_NS
On 18 Mar 2013 Chris Newman wrote: > In article , >John Rickman Iyonix wrote: >> Michael Drake wrote >>> In article <532e67d218cvj...@waitrose.com>, >>>Chris Newman wrote: >>>> I've lost the link to !Fetch_NS. >>> Out of interest, why don't people just visit >>> http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/riscos/?C=M;O=D >>> And download either of the top two archives (depending on whether they >>> want a JavaScript build), and run it like any other peice of software? >>> At least they'll know what software they're running if they fetched it >>> themselves. >> Its because, on a good day**, it will automatically delete the current >> version of NetSurf and replace it with the latest version if it has >> changed. > Er? My copy (2.10 of 17-12-2012) doesn't dd that. it just downloads the > latest zip file. I have to manually delete the old & instigate the new. Have > I missed something? Probably. I have that version, and it does delete the current version, and unpack and run the new one. However the (anonymous, German) author of that version, heavily modified from John's original, specifically asked that questions or comments about this version should not be posted here, but instead to c.s.a.apps. I suggest we take it there, where I will be pleased to try to explain how to configure that version, which involves changing some if its obey files. That is, if it's still of interest to anyone. It's certainly off-topic here. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Find !Fetch_NS
On 19 Mar 2013 John Williams wrote: > In article , > Peter Young wrote: >> However the (anonymous, German) author > Frank de Bruijn - Dutch, surely? Thanks for the double correction! >> of that version, heavily modified from John's original, > because I prefer to see what's going on myself and make my own decisions I can see that, but you have a lot of technical knowledge that a lot of us don't have. Some of us like to keep things simple. >> specifically asked that questions or comments about this version should >> not be posted here, but instead to c.s.a.apps > at my suggestion, IIRC. Wrath is best avoided! You probably recall correctly. However, druck is conspicuous by his absence when threads go off-topic these days. Maybe marriage has softened him up a bit :-) With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Orpheus Home page
On 1 May 2013 "Learning Partners" wrote: > The Orpheus Home page does not seem to render correctly on my set up (Iyo > 5.16). It did on 2.9 - whoops. Does anyone else have the same experience? Yes, confirmed here (NetSurf #1096, ARMini, RISC OS 5.19). It's readable, but the formatting is all wring compared with Windows Firefox. Some, but not all, of the other pages also show malformed formatting. It doesn't make any difference turning JavaScript off. > Thanks for work on the new release - text editing is so much improved. Hear, hear! > Can't get javascript to work at all though (ticked on in choices but) Seems to work here. Have you made sure that you have a JavaScript version? :-) http://javatester.org/javascript.html will tell you whether JavaScript is working or not. Here I see: JavaScript IS WORKING in your web browser Your web browser supports JavaScript version 2.2 Every web browser identifies itself to websites with a character string called the "user agent". The User Agent string for your web browser is: NetSurf/3.0 (RISC OS) With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Orpheus Home page
On 1 May 2013 "Learning Partners" wrote: > On Wed, 1 May, 2013 1:01 pm, Tony Moore wrote: >> On 1 May 2013, Peter Young wrote: Oh, no, I didn't! :-) >> John mentions the 'new release' which presumably means NS 3.0. Although >> the javatester response above mentions NetSurf/3.0, the actual response >> when using the NS 3.0 release, is a blank Test Results window, if JS is >> working, and a fail notice if not. > Yes get the blank window. Thanks >> JS setting in Choices to be lost when NS is quit/re-started. This means >> that it is necessary to re-set 'Disable JavaScript' when NS 3.0 is run. Sorry, I think I was confusing you. I was using one of the development builds; I like to keep an eye on how things are progressing, and very rarely have trouble with them. People seem to have less problems with the development builds that with the basic 3.0. In particular it remembers the JavaScript setting, unlike 3.0. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Interaction between NetSurf and Organizer
On 7 May 2013 Richard Porter wrote: > Recently I've noticed strange things happening when running NetSurf > (currently 3.1 #1108). When I load certain pages with a lot of > graphics/images the computer starts bleeping and the Organizer icon > starts alternating between black-on-cream and the reverse of that. > One such page is > http://classiccarmag.net/classic-cars-for-new-drivers/ > I've recently upgraded to Organizer 2.20 which might be relevant. That's Organizer complaining that the machine is running low on memory. It's configurable in Organiser's Choices > General; "Flash if free memory below ...". With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: BBC Ticker
On 31 May 2013 Brian Howlett wrote: > On 31 May, Brian Howlett wrote: >> On 31 May, Brian Howlett wrote: >>> Recent versions of Netsurf (currently on #1229) crash whenever I click >>> on a link on Darren Salt's BBC News Ticker (0.85). >>> RISC OS 5.18, Iyonix. >> It doesn't crash if I switch JS off. > Turns out it was all BBC pages, not just pages accessed via !Ticker. Yes, that was the bug I reported in http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3614004&group_id=51719&atid=4643 12 > However, it's fixed in #1230. It is indeed, though on the tracker page it's still marked as Resolution: None. > Hurray! And indeed to that too.! With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Remember this password
On 31 May 2013 cj wrote: > In article , >Gavin Wraith wrote: >> If not, then maybe some approximation could >> be kludged using function keys. > There is always FFiller by Kevin Wells. I have found it quite useful > in the past. Always use it for eg ROOL forum. Or if you are paranoid about having visible passwords on your system, CrypStor by Frank de Bruijn will store passwords encrypted. You can export these passwords as a text file, then drag and drop the relevant one into NetSurf, then delete the export file. It's at http://aconet.org/crypstor/ I didn't find it totally intuitive to start with, but I now find it extremely useful. Probably OT here, though. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Sourceforge
On 5 Jul 2013 Richard Porter wrote: > What's happened to Sourceforge? It's virtually unusable now. The help > page tells me to click on "Submit new" but it's nowhere to be found on > the bugs page. I don't know if you're seeing the same thing as I am, but the URL https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=add&group_id=51719&atid=464312 used to take you to the "add a bug" page (Can't remember what the correct name is), but it now takes you to the list of bugs instead. This has, as you say, no obvious way of adding a bug. I did try this URL in Windows Firefox, and the same thing happens there. Is there a way we can help the developers by reporting bugs now? With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Sourceforge
On 5 Jul 2013 "Dave Lawton" wrote: > On Fri, 5 July, 2013 12:03 pm, Peter Young wrote: >> On 5 Jul 2013 Richard Porter wrote: >> >>> What's happened to Sourceforge? It's virtually unusable now. The >>> help >>> page tells me to click on "Submit new" but it's nowhere to be found >>> on >>> the bugs page. >> >> I don't know if you're seeing the same thing as I am, but the URL >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=add&group_id=51719&atid=464312 >> used to take you to the "add a bug" page (Can't remember what the >> correct name is), but it now takes you to the list of bugs instead. >> This has, as you say, no obvious way of adding a bug. >> >> I did try this URL in Windows Firefox, and the same thing happens >> there. >> >> Is there a way we can help the developers by reporting bugs now? >> >> With best wishes, >> >> Peter. >> > Hi, > You need to 'Login', then you will find a 'Create Ticket' > button has been added on the LHS. So there is! I did try logging in to see if it made a difference, but didn't notice the "Create ticket". Presumably this means that people without a Sourceforge account can't submit bug reports any more, which is a pity, At least they now have "Save" instead of that awful "Add artifact"! With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: #1276 Page rendering
On 6 Jul 2013 Brian Howlett wrote: > On 6 Jul, Brian Bailey wrote: >> At Amazon site, >> http://www.amazon.co.uk/packaging >> Upper part of page, rendering ever so slightly a bit of a shambles. >> Seems to be confined to this particular page. >> #1276 otherwise appears to be OK. > Seems OK here - I've just had a look at a few Amazon pages and could > observe no issues, with the possible exception that the Search box is > a little high, and the text on the Go button is aligned to the top > instead of the centre. And here too, but what I get from that URL is my pre-checkout page, where I have to put in my password. Could Brian perhaps post a screenshot of what he's seeing? BTW, the box for entering the e-mail address on the pre-checkout page is very small. No problem for me, as Amazon store my address, so it's already filled in. Is that worth a bug report? With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: BBC website
On 23 Oct 2013 Peter Slegg wrote: > Hi all, > I noticed some of the headlines on the BBC website are over-written: > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/ > I am using today's daily Atari build. Looks fine in the RISC OS build, though that's not helpful to Peter! With best wishes, Another Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc W) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Site crashes NS
On 26 Dec 2013 "Richard Torrens (lists)" wrote: > www.bsbi.org.uk > seems to consistently crash NS (3.1 (Dev CI #1543)) without displaying a > thing. > Can anyone else get this site? Same here. Who is going to report the bug, now that we can once more? OK, done it! With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc W) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Site crashes NS
On 27 Dec 2013 Peter Young wrote: > On 26 Dec 2013 "Richard Torrens (lists)" > wrote: >> www.bsbi.org.uk >> seems to consistently crash NS (3.1 (Dev CI #1543)) without displaying a >> thing. >> Can anyone else get this site? > Same here. Who is going to report the bug, now that we can once more? > OK, done it! Reported fixed in #1544; wow! It certainly loads now, but is malformed in a big way Perhaps somebody else would like to file a bug report about that? It's actually quite easy with the new system, but I have other things to do. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc W) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: broken links in "RiscOS info" page
On 29 Dec 2013 Jim Nagel wrote: > Two links in http://netsurf-browser.org/documentation/roinfo are > broken: > - The one for "Acorn URI" points to http://sudden.recoil.org -- that > domain is no longer active. > - The one for "Mimemap datafile" tries to fetch > http://www.beebware.com/software/mappings/[object%20Location] -- dunno > where the strange bit in square brackets comes from or what it means, > but the attempt to load goes on forever and produces nothing. > There may be others. > Same behaviour from both Netsurf r1391 and the latest r1552. FWIW Windows Firefox gives the same "Can't find" error for the first URL, but the second one loads, via MPro and UniLaunch, the bit before the square brackets, from which the MimeMap file can be found. So it looks as if NetSurf might be able to solve the second one, if someone would like to report the bug, for such it would seem to be. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc W) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: broken links in "RiscOS info" page / Mimemap
On 29 Dec 2013 Jim Nagel wrote: > Peter Young wrote on 29 Dec: >> On 29 Dec 2013 Jim Nagel wrote: >>> Two links in http://netsurf-browser.org/documentation/roinfo are >>> broken: >>> - The one for "Acorn URI" points to http://sudden.recoil.org -- that >>> domain is no longer active. >>> - The one for "Mimemap datafile" tries to fetch >>> http://www.beebware.com/software/mappings/[object%20Location] -- dunno >>> where the strange bit in square brackets comes from or what it means, >>> but the attempt to load goes on forever and produces nothing. >>> There may be others. >>> Same behaviour from both Netsurf r1391 and the latest r1552. >> FWIW Windows Firefox gives the same "Can't find" error for the first >> URL, but the second one loads, via MPro and UniLaunch, the bit before >> the square brackets, from which the MimeMap file can be found. >> So it looks as if NetSurf might be able to solve the second one, if >> someone would like to report the bug, for such it would seem to be. > I tried deleting the squarebracked bit, but it immediately reappeared. > What does it mean anyway? > And, is this Mimemap file up to date anyway? Could well be that the > one I have (from timil, Tim Hill) is more comprehensive. I'm sure that last sentence is true! With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc W) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Grey page
On 1 Jan 2014 Richard Porter wrote: > On 1 Jan 2014 lists wrote: >> Although the home page >> http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/default.aspx >> appears to disply correctly, trying to go to any other page results in a >> completly grey page >> NetSurf 3.1 (Dev C1 #1556) >> Not tried any other version ATM. > I'm not getting a completely grey page but a large amount of grey > space either above or below the page content. (#1543) FWIW no grey that I can see here; #1558, ARMini, RISC OS 5.19. I've just looked with Windows Firefox, and the two displays are pretty similar. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc W) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: BBC web site
On 7 Jan 2014 Dave Symes wrote: > I need a bit of help please, as Fay's Netsurf is playing up.. > A while back the BBC website on Netsurf started to redirect > http://www.bbc.co.uk to http://m.bbc.co.uk > There was some solution, but I can't remember what it was (old age). > Can someone prompt me again. http://www.bbc.co.uk/ seems to work OK here now. NetSurf 3.1 #1602, ARMini. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc W) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Another site crashing NS?
On 26 Jan 2014 wrote: > As soon as I open http://www.leroyalmeridien-dubai.com/ the page opens with > part of the page loaded, and then freezes completely. I am using it from > VRPC, so need to quit RISC OS to get out of the situation. > Does this site also cause a freeze using "real" RISC OS, or is it just > VRPC? Works OK here with #1659 and RISC OS 5.19 on an ARMini With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc W) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: StreetMap
On 3 Feb 2014 Tony Moore wrote: > On 3 Feb 2014, John Williams wrote: >> Am I imagining it, or has StreetMap (without JS) decided to load all >> elements of the map each time? If so, well done! > You're right. Using NS 1602, http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newdefaulte2.htm > now renders both 3x3 and 5x5 layouts, correctly. But only with JavaScript off, as John says. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc W) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Your bugs in the tracker
On 9 Feb 2014 Richard Porter wrote: > On 9 Feb 2014 Vincent Sanders wrote: >> If you have a bug like this please, please assist us by replying with >> requested feedback or adding a note that simply says if the issue is >> still reproducible. We are trying to get on top of the bugs for the >> next release bug your assistance is appreciated. > I have now annotated all of my open bug reports as appropriate. There > are some that can now be closed. Me too. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc W) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
