Re: Color me skeptical
I'm what you would call a Google convert. I use google products, and tend to prefer them over others. Gmail, Android, Chrome, Google D[ocs|rive] Google Voice, G+, all have been successes for me. I get where they are going: They cannot win the desktop wars, so they are gunning to win the web. Some (or maybe most) people don't like the idea that Google can look at my docs, images, email, search history, etc. I understand this fear, but I am unsure how valid it is. I tend to believe that if somebody wanted to find something out about me, they probably could, even though I keep a relatively low profile on the internet. Without this information that they gather, they cannot offer the excellent products they provide for free, or with limited advertisements. I'm okay with that, because I (oddly) expect that all of the big tech companies do this. Even Microsoft, with their Scroogled campaign, likely uses data from Outlook.com or Bing to their advantage. Also, they are beginning to harness this information in useful ways, such as what they are doing with Google Now. The paradigm shift is the move to the web, where your browser is your operating system, and the cloud is your datastore. It's not for those with secrets, but I don't have any so it works for me. It's not like everything Google touches is golden. The Google Pixel is a high-end laptop for a low-end OS. And the Glass is defiantly what I would call beta hardware. Of course, you have all of the other Google flops as well. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:26:52 -0800 Subject: Re: Color me skeptical On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: They hit paydirt with search, don't sort and sell user data/advertising to others, not services to users. But that wasn't a paradigm shift Seems like it is mostly a discussion about what constitutes a paradigm shift, then, because I generally agree with the rest of your analysis. :-) Some of it's quite apt -- especially the bit about big companies floundering once their core competency market is saturated and they're forced to branch out. A couple small additions: Microsoft's advantage was actually APIs upon which rich ecosystems could be built by 3rd parties and enterprises. ... they lost their dominance in mobile by not understanding what their strengths really were Microsoft's big mistake in the mobile market was making something that wasn't compatible with their existing stuff. So when Apple came along with a more compelling product, there was no reason not to jump ship. It wasn't so much that the API wasn't good enough (although maybe that was a problem, too) but that it was *different*. The same will happen with Win 8, I suspect. They think that putting Windows Apps on desktop and mobile will mean tons of adoption of the new Windows Apps platform. I suspect it will actually mean a white elephant on the desktop. I don't think they have any other choice, though. Google is a search company that sells data derived, in part, from search. All these other forays into different technologies are just distracting them. Largely agree, but they've had some success with GMail and GApps. Of course, even there, a big part of GMail's success was the search function. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Dual Wan Soho High Speed Router Suggestions
Here are some options I see at your price range(Some of these have been mentioned already): PC Based using one of the following firewall distributinos: pfSense.com, IPFire.org, Clearfoundation.com Or you could try the Ubiquity Edge Router Lite, which claims 3Gbps for less then $100. Color me a bit skeptical, but wouldn't that be nice. http://www.ubnt.com/edgemax#EdgeMAXhardware --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Beach Computers Web Hosting [mailto:gro...@beachcomp.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 11:01:34 -0800 Subject: RE: Dual Wan Soho High Speed Router Suggestions Ideally $150 tops. I don't mind using a PC as I have so many laying around, but whatever I end up with would ideally be a little idiot proof as I'm no linux guru. :) From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 9:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dual Wan Soho High Speed Router Suggestions OpenBSD is a popular option in the PC router realm. As for appliances, Sophos (Astaro) and Fortinet sell very affordable devices that would handle this function as well. What's your budget? ASB http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market. On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Shane Mullins tsmulli...@gmail.com wrote: Since you mentioned using a PC based router, OpenBSD has supported failover for at least eight years. Performance is great and their security is top notch. OpenBSD uses pf as a firewall. Pf is much easier to use, for me, than iptables. FYI, Linux *can* do this too, but if I didn't have experience with either, I'd go with OpenBSD/pf, too. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Google Drive
*Shudder* Back when we were installing a lab of Windows 3.11, by hand, by 3.5 floppy... I swear MS had some kind of copy protection where you could only install MS Dos 6.22 3 times before the disk died. I was so happy when the floppy died. They hadn't been reliable for me since my Commodore 64. Those, in comparison, seemed to work forever and through all kinds of abuse. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 07:09:11 -0800 Subject: Re: Google Drive On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: I use DropBox (75%), Box.com (23%) and SkyDrive (2%) with encryption provided by BoxCryptor. I use a stack of 1.44 MB floppies I carry with me everywhere. ;-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Google Drive
I use Google Drive all the time, at least the online version. I have been trying a lot of different syncing solutions as of late, as I also have been using Dropbox and Cubby. I have the desktop client on my home PC, but it has not given me any problems. It behaves a lot better than Dropbox for me, as Dropbox likes to index every time I am forced to reboot, which seems to take an unusually long time. The client at home I use to drop in PDFs of important mailers I get (Scan to FTP, copy to Google Drive) so that I have is wherever I need them. Otherwise, it's a simple web-based word processor/spreadsheet/drawing tool that works anywhere I go. How are you trying to sync your Firefox bookmarks with Google drive? Are you using the Portable Apps version of Firefox, and seeing the problems when you are mixing the two together? (Very cool idea, BTW. I just wonder how syncing would work if you had it open on multiple computers...) Doesn't Firefox now have a native bookmark syncing feature, much like Google Chrome? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 03:37:57 -0800 Subject: Google Drive Anyone else using Google Drive and think it is a bit rubbish in general? I regularly get sync failures, errors in the software, and if I go to the online version and try to empty the Trash folder, everything simply reappears as soon as I delete it. I've been using it with Portable Apps and recently all my Firefox bookmarks just disappeared, so I am beginning to think it might not be really fit for purpose. Anyone else had similar issues, or got any feedback to report? Cheers, -- *James Rankin* Technical Consultant (ACA, CCA, MCTS) http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Google Drive
Wait for the next Service Pack... er, sorry, wrong vendor. It's odd: Microsoft is producing fewer and fewer service packs over the years. Trend? Is this a good thing, or bad? It must still be in Beta. Wait another few years. Alpha is the new Beta. Beta is the new 1.0. ;-) -- Ben --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 04:56:32 -0800 Subject: Re: Google Drive On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:37 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: Anyone else using Google Drive and think it is a bit rubbish in general? Wait for the next Service Pack... er, sorry, wrong vendor. It must still be in Beta. Wait another few years. ;-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Google Drive
Yes, you've got the idea, my portable apps (including Firefox) are installed into my Google Drive folder. The idea is, get a new machine, install Google Drive, create a shortcut and I have all my apps. I like the idea... but I don't. There are a lot of PortlableApps that don't work well unless they can see an acutal drive letter, and most of them like to be in the root of the drive (i.e.: x:\PortableApps) Here's an idea: Make robocopy script that does that sync. Use Google Drive as a backup (or Dropbox, or whatever) and viola. I try not to use them simultaneously on different machines and I have to pause the Google sync when I run FF portable, but it mostly worked OK until I lost the bookmarks that were sync-ed thru Firefox. I can only assume there was some sort of conflict. Pausing the sync? Sounds like that might be the reason you're getting issues. The issue with the reappearing Trash in the online version also spooks me, as its often the web version that causes the conflicts. Imagine if you pause the sync, then turn it back on... maybe that's why your Re-syncing your trash? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: kz2...@googlemail.com To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 10:01:31 -0800 Subject: Re: Google Drive Yes, you've got the idea, my portable apps (including Firefox) are installed into my Google Drive folder. The idea is, get a new machine, install Google Drive, create a shortcut and I have all my apps. I try not to use them simultaneously on different machines and I have to pause the Google sync when I run FF portable, but it mostly worked OK until I lost the bookmarks that were sync-ed thru Firefox. I can only assume there was some sort of conflict. The issue with the reappearing Trash in the online version also spooks me, as its often the web version that causes the conflicts. Sent from my Blackberry, which may be an antique but delivers email RELIABLY -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.org Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 09:40:19 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: Google Drive I use Google Drive all the time, at least the online version. I have been trying a lot of different syncing solutions as of late, as I also have been using Dropbox and Cubby. I have the desktop client on my home PC, but it has not given me any problems. It behaves a lot better than Dropbox for me, as Dropbox likes to index every time I am forced to reboot, which seems to take an unusually long time. The client at home I use to drop in PDFs of important mailers I get (Scan to FTP, copy to Google Drive) so that I have is wherever I need them. Otherwise, it's a simple web-based word processor/spreadsheet/drawing tool that works anywhere I go. How are you trying to sync your Firefox bookmarks with Google drive? Are you using the Portable Apps version of Firefox, and seeing the problems when you are mixing the two together? (Very cool idea, BTW. I just wonder how syncing would work if you had it open on multiple computers...) Doesn't Firefox now have a native bookmark syncing feature, much like Google Chrome? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 03:37:57 -0800 Subject: Google Drive Anyone else using Google Drive and think it is a bit rubbish in general? I regularly get sync failures, errors in the software, and if I go to the online version and try to empty the Trash folder, everything simply reappears as soon as I delete it. I've been using it with Portable Apps and recently all my Firefox bookmarks just disappeared, so I am beginning to think it might not be really fit for purpose. Anyone else had similar issues, or got any feedback to report? Cheers, -- *James Rankin* Technical Consultant (ACA, CCA, MCTS) http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http
RE: Google Drive
I really need to try SkyDrive. It's mostly my negative bias toward Microsoft that has stopped me from trying it. That, and they killed their old Live Sync. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Tobie Fysh [mailto:tobie.f...@freebridge.org.uk] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 10:25:05 -0800 Subject: RE: Google Drive If we are throwing out our fav syncing tools SkyDrive rocks, Windows, Windows RT and Windows Phone all in sync. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Matthew W. Rossmailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org Sent: 10/04/2013 18:15 To: NT System Admin Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Google Drive I use Google Drive all the time, at least the online version. I have been trying a lot of different syncing solutions as of late, as I also have been using Dropbox and Cubby. I have the desktop client on my home PC, but it has not given me any problems. It behaves a lot better than Dropbox for me, as Dropbox likes to index every time I am forced to reboot, which seems to take an unusually long time. The client at home I use to drop in PDFs of important mailers I get (Scan to FTP, copy to Google Drive) so that I have is wherever I need them. Otherwise, it's a simple web-based word processor/spreadsheet/drawing tool that works anywhere I go. How are you trying to sync your Firefox bookmarks with Google drive? Are you using the Portable Apps version of Firefox, and seeing the problems when you are mixing the two together? (Very cool idea, BTW. I just wonder how syncing would work if you had it open on multiple computers...) Doesn't Firefox now have a native bookmark syncing feature, much like Google Chrome? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 03:37:57 -0800 Subject: Google Drive Anyone else using Google Drive and think it is a bit rubbish in general? I regularly get sync failures, errors in the software, and if I go to the online version and try to empty the Trash folder, everything simply reappears as soon as I delete it. I've been using it with Portable Apps and recently all my Firefox bookmarks just disappeared, so I am beginning to think it might not be really fit for purpose. Anyone else had similar issues, or got any feedback to report? Cheers, -- *James Rankin* Technical Consultant (ACA, CCA, MCTS) http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This message has been scanned by MimeCast on behalf of Freebridge Community Housing and found to be free of viruses and not SPAM. If you have any concerns about the message contents please contact the ICT ServiceDesk. http://www.freebridge.org.uk http://twitter.com/Freebridge http://www.facebook.com/pages/Kings-Lynn-United-Kingdom/Freebridge-Community-Housing/192690183387?v=box_3 This e-mail (including any attachments), is confidential and intended only for the use of the addressee(s). It may contain information covered by legal, professional or other privilege. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Do not copy, use or disclose this e-mail. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error free. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard copy version. Freebridge Community Housing Ltd is a Charitable Industrial and Provident Society - Reg No IP29744R Registered with the Housing Corporation - No L4463. VAT Registration Number 860762121 Freebridge Community Housing, Juniper House, Austin Street, Kings Lynn, Norfolk PE30 1DZ This email message has been scanned for viruses by Mimecast. Mimecast delivers a complete managed email solution from a single web based platform. For more information please
RE: .ZIP file e-mail attachments
Don't do it! Sm:)e. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 11:46:57 -0800 Subject: RE: .ZIP file e-mail attachments My Symantec Enterprise license keys come in a 1KB ZIP file. So. No. Too risky. From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 7:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: .ZIP file e-mail attachments Clever Sent from my Windows Phone _ From: Mark Boersma Sent: 4/9/2013 10:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: .ZIP file e-mail attachments My policy is to block zip files by size. If you block all zips smaller than 500k you'll stop all the viruses. Allow zips larger than 500k and those will be the legit files. Sounds sort of silly but it absolutely works. Obviously I have scanners and such running too but that is my attachment policy. Mark - Two rules for success in life: 1. Never tell people everything you know. From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bill.m...@pittcountync.gov] Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 10:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: .ZIP file e-mail attachments We mostly rely on our appliance (IronPort) to catch them, but we do have a special rule that quarantines any password-protected ZIP files (because the appliance can't inspect those). From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 10:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: .ZIP file e-mail attachments Do any of you guys still allow this? I ask because at %formerjob% they were blocked, but %dayjob% allows them, and last week and today we've received infected .ZIP files. Last week was another autorun outbreak, today we caught it before anyone actually ran it. We keep getting latest and greatest variants First seen by VirusTotal 2013-04-09 09:51:15 UTC (4 hours, 58 minutes ago). Grr. David Lum Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Fortigate as a WIFI Controller
Has anyone used a Fortigate to manage WAP's? We received a free FAP-221A with our Fortigate 300C. It was part of their promotion, trying to sell us their APs. Using the FortiOS 4.x software, the APs were forced to be on a different subnet than our normal networks, and this was not what we wanted to do with our wireless network. Thus, we did not get much use out of our free AP. Also, our existing Ruckus wireless network was working very well, so we didn't need the additional coverage. I understand that the 5.x version of FortiOS will allow the APs to work on the same network as the rest of your LAN. I have not played with this. I'm interested to hear how well they perform. Particularly when not using Fortinet Access Points. I didn't know the Fortigate could manage 3rd party APs. Where are you getting such information? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: James Hill [mailto:falc...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Sun, 07 Apr 2013 16:08:55 -0800 Subject: Fortigate as a WIFI Controller Has anyone used a Fortigate to manage WAP's? I'm interested to hear how well they perform. Particularly when not using Fortinet Access Points. James. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Backups/deduplication
Not a device, but we are using Acronis Backup and Recovery 11.5 with the deduplication option. My review of Acronis is mixed: If you don't have crazy server configurations, it should work just fine. If you have Macs saving files on SMB shares, Macintosh file names can make a file-level backup difficult, and you can't do an image backup of a server with iSCSI mapped drives. Be aware of the memory requirements of Deduplication. Check with your vendor. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Derrenbacker, L. Jonathan [mailto:jderrenbac...@keitercpa.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 09:12:57 -0800 Subject: Backups/deduplication I searched the NT archives and I don't think this has been discussed since 2011. I'm in the market for a deduplication backup device to replace my old LTO tape library. I'm curious what everyone is using for a backup/dedupe appliance, who likes what, and if there's anything to avoid or be aware of, etc. So far I've been looking at: - EMC Data Domain 640 - Exagrid EX 7000 - Barracuda Backup 890. It seems like a lot of people I talk to like the Data Domain product, but it's a lot more money than Exagrid Any advice/input/words of wisdom? Thanks, Jon [cid:image001.png@01CDE9CA.0D1A37A0] Jon Derrenbacker | Systems Engineer | Manager | Keiter 4401 Dominion Boulevard, 2nd Floor, Glen Allen, VA 23060 phone: 804-273-6221 | fax: 804-747-3632 | keitercpa.comhttp://www.keitercpa.com/ Experience | Knowledge | Relationships | Insight Note: This communication, including any attachments, may contain privileged or other confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, or believe you have received this communication in error, do not print, copy, retransmit, disseminate, or otherwise use the information contained within. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. IRS Circular 230 Disclosure: To ensure compliance with requirements imposed by the IRS, we inform you that any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding any penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction(s) or tax-related matter(s) addressed herein. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OT: Career and Social Media
Which just is more evidence for the old point: It's not necessarily what you know, but who you know... --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 09:50:35 -0800 Subject: Re: OT: Career and Social Media Same here... *ASB **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker* **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market…*** On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: Most of my engagements today come because of social media. J ** ** And then repeat business, of course. ** ** *From:* Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] *Sent:* Friday, March 22, 2013 11:39 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: OT: Career and Social Media ** ** My last two jobs have come about because of social media. ** ** ** ** *From:* Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com sca...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, March 22, 2013 11:12 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: OT: Career and Social Media ** ** “With social media you might not have to look for a new job, it might find you” ** ** Spot on. Lately I’m always having recruiters and companies reach out to me for hire. I always ask how they find me, and they always say social media or internet presence. I haven’t published my resume anywhere (Heck, hardly even active on LinkedIn and it’s not that up to date. My Facebook is strictly personal – but I do keep a ‘clean’ presence on it). ** ** Several great offers have come my way. ** ** I take it as a sign the IT hiring is really picking up too. ** ** Sam ** ** ** ** ** ** *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org david@nwea.org] *Sent:* Friday, March 22, 2013 8:43 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: OT: Career and Social Media ** ** In case you haven’t noticed, privacy is becoming history. The current young generation by and large expects to be able to find out where there friends and family are, where they eat and shop, and where they work, and they also have no problems sharing their own information with people. As these people become older and enter the corporate world, they will expect to know quite a bit about you whether or not your resume is any good, and they will likely influence company rules… ** ** The added twist is just by having family on social media, your information becomes public “I went to my dad’s 40th birthday party yesterday, not too far from the house he was born in”. Presto, your age, date and place of birth given up in one sentence by someone else. ** ** In many ways I see keeping privacy in the same vein as not having a car or a phone. You can do it, but it takes a concerted effort and a specific lifestyle to pull it off. (Oddly, I didn’t have this view until I went to a lunch/seminar that was all about security yesterday!). ** ** I’m sure when those first came out there were people who said “who needs such a thing!”. I went without a smartphone longer than many folks, but to be relevant/competitive in my field it became necessary to get one (although I still turn off location services except for the specific times I need them) and I am better off for it as it saves me a lot of time vs. if I were to be without it. ** ** Heck cellphones are now being used to inform different service providers traffic densities, average speeds, etc. so their mapping software can tell you how to avoid traffic. Big brother is here, the difference is it’s not like The Truman Show because the participants are also getting the benefits of said information. ** ** With social media you might not have to look for a new job, it might find you. I can see in a few years the conversation being “Remember when we had so send resume’s out? How lame!”. ** ** That Dilbert is spot-on whether we like it or not. ** ** *From:* Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com kurt.b...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, March 21, 2013 7:51 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: OT: Career and Social Media ** ** +1000 I do not have a facebook account, nor any other social media account other than LinkedIn. Work and personal life are as separate as I can make them. Social media is a time stealer and a privacy invader. Kurt On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@live.com wrote:*** * I am glad I am getting close to the end of my career. I really dislike using things like Facebook for anything more than keeping in touch with family/friends. LinkedIN is about the
Re: Meraki
Which model did you get? Was this the free one they offer? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 10:45:55 -0800 Subject: Re: Meraki So, my device arrived today -- solid piece of hardware, so no complaints. As I review the setup instructions, I see a different concern than the ones that have been voiced thus far. I'm really not worried about what might happen 3 years from now, but rather how much information a cloud managed network device will provide about my whole network, and not just the device itself. The basic instructions say to logon to the website and configure the settings for the device, then put it on the network and have it download all its settings. I'm going to pay close attention to the type of traffic that this device sees fit to disclose. :) Not a complaint so much as an observation. There's always OpenWRT... *ASB **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker* **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market…*** On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@live.com wrote: Here is the question and answer from Meraki about what happens when the license expires. 1. What happens when or if the license for the Cloud Management of the device lapse?** ** **- Devices have a 90 day grace period for renewal. Beyond that, they will not be able to pass traffic. Jon -- From: jk.har...@live.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Meraki Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:35 -0400 The actual response was at the end of the contract + 90 days is when the action would take place. The action in this instance was that it would stop passing traffic. When I get to work later I will cut the actual question/answer from my email and send it to the list. I don't doubt that most larger businesses would keep this device under contract. It would be very unwise to do otherwise, although I have seen other businesses that depend on their network, not keep their high dollar network devices under contract. Like I said earlier did find the fact that unlike a lot of other IT directed businesses they seemed to be more interested in allowing their hardware, in this case, to sell themselves rather than have some sales drone push it hard. That in itself to me is a big plus for the company. Jon -- From: gswe...@acts360.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Meraki Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 22:57:46 + It doesn't stop passing traffic and right now that’s not a hard cut off. We have gone a few weeks past an expiration and we can still monitor and make changes. I am sure at some point though you would lose ability to manage it. That is the one part of the whole solution that I am concerned with, but in almost all of my clients they keep up the warranty on their devices, controllers, servers, etc because to have it fail and either the replacement cost or downtime exposure is pretty steep. The renewal cost on the licenses is paying for the service. If you factor the cost of a Rukus, Firetide, Cisco, etc by the time you pay for the AP's, the controller and license cost I am pretty sure you would be very close to the cost over 3 years. At least we were when we checked it over Ruckus on 3 years. *Greg Sweers* CEO *ACTS360.com http://www.acts360.com/*** *P.O. Box 1193* *Brandon, FL 33509* *813-657-0849 Office* *813-644-3479 Cell* From: Adam Greene maill...@webjogger.net Reply-To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013 9:27 AM To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Meraki I wonder if after 3 years you just lose the ability to manage it via the cloud. It seems pretty bad that the device itself would stop working if you don’t renew the license. *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@live.com jk.har...@live.com] *Sent:* Friday, March 15, 2013 7:57 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Meraki Yes but at the end of 3 years you have to renew the license or the device will stop passing traffic. At least that is what the sales drone told me. I still don't know a lot of homeowners or mom pop SMB's that will buy into something that requires this type of commitment or yearly price. I will know better after I do my evaluation but I don't see it happening long term. Once I am finished with my evaluation I get the lovely chore of passing my findings to my boss here at work for him to think about. We
Re: Forefront client security
Isn't Forefront the Home/SMB version? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife [mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 14:11:31 -0800 Subject: Forefront client security How is this different from SCEP? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Meraki
If they changed that to a 90 day grace period, then they will limit themselves in another way (Maybe a single SSID, or limited bandwidth, or limited antenna power, something like that...) I would feel better about it. I just hate having to deal with anything that _depends_ on a service on the internet. What if that service is retired, or the company disappears? Does that mean the hardware becomes useless after 90 days? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@live.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 20:34:33 -0800 Subject: RE: Meraki Here is the question and answer from Meraki about what happens when the license expires. 1. What happens when or if the license for the Cloud Management of the device lapse? - Devices have a 90 day grace period for renewal. Beyond that, they will not be able to pass traffic. JonFrom: jk.har...@live.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Meraki Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:35 -0400 The actual response was at the end of the contract + 90 days is when the action would take place. The action in this instance was that it would stop passing traffic. When I get to work later I will cut the actual question/answer from my email and send it to the list. I don't doubt that most larger businesses would keep this device under contract. It would be very unwise to do otherwise, although I have seen other businesses that depend on their network, not keep their high dollar network devices under contract. Like I said earlier did find the fact that unlike a lot of other IT directed businesses they seemed to be more interested in allowing their hardware, in this case, to sell themselves rather than have some sales drone push it hard. That in itself to me is a big plus for the company. Jon From: gswe...@acts360.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Meraki Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 22:57:46 + It doesn't stop passing traffic and right now that’s not a hard cut off. We have gone a few weeks past an expiration and we can still monitor and make changes. I am sure at some point though you would lose ability to manage it. That is the one part of the whole solution that I am concerned with, but in almost all of my clients they keep up the warranty on their devices, controllers, servers, etc because to have it fail and either the replacement cost or downtime exposure is pretty steep. The renewal cost on the licenses is paying for the service. If you factor the cost of a Rukus, Firetide, Cisco, etc by the time you pay for the AP's, the controller and license cost I am pretty sure you would be very close to the cost over 3 years. At least we were when we checked it over Ruckus on 3 years. Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.com P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849 Office 813-644-3479 Cell From: Adam Greene maill...@webjogger.net Reply-To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013 9:27 AM To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Meraki I wonder if after 3 years you just lose the ability to manage it via the cloud. It seems pretty bad that the device itself would stop working if you don’t renew the license. From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@live.com] Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 7:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Meraki Yes but at the end of 3 years you have to renew the license or the device will stop passing traffic. At least that is what the sales drone told me. I still don't know a lot of homeowners or mom pop SMB's that will buy into something that requires this type of commitment or yearly price. I will know better after I do my evaluation but I don't see it happening long term. Once I am finished with my evaluation I get the lovely chore of passing my findings to my boss here at work for him to think about. We are not that commited to doing wireless except for BOD and certain officers at only certain locations. This looked like something they would think about but with the yearly cost I don't know. Jon From: asbz...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 09:03:56 -0400 Subject: Re: Meraki To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com My understanding was that the devices came with a 3 YEAR cloud license... ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market… On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 12:02 AM, Jon Harris jk.har...@live.com wrote: After a little talking to a sales drone (quite
Re: Exchange mail archiving solution
I tried out Enkive and MailArchiva years ago... I wan't impressed, but times have changed since. I also see MailPiler. Those look to be your Open Source solutions. What's inexpensive? How many mailboxes? MailStore Server is fairly cheap if you have only a few mailboxes. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Tigran K [mailto:tigr...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 16:06:04 -0800 Subject: Exchange mail archiving solution I'm looking for an open source or freeware or really inexpensive email archiving solutions. Any suggestions? Running Exchange 2010 and Outlook on all clients. Thanks ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Meraki
I'll bet they have a backdoor that they're not willing to provide or outline right now. Maybe, but I doubt it. Otherwise someone would have found it and exploited it. Also, if the APs have this feature, do the switches they sell do the same thing too? Will they stop passing traffic? Also, I'll be keeping my eye out for alternative firmware as a hedge against this particular issue. Ooh, good idea. I just checked, and it looks like those crazy kids at OpenWRT already have some of the Meraki APs loading their firmware. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 09:30:18 -0800 Subject: Re: Meraki Such is life in the land of subscriptions and remote license checking. I'll bet they have a backdoor that they're not willing to provide or outline right now. Also, I'll be keeping my eye out for alternative firmware as a hedge against this particular issue. *ASB **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker* **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market…*** On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.orgwrote: If they changed that to a 90 day grace period, then they will limit themselves in another way (Maybe a single SSID, or limited bandwidth, or limited antenna power, something like that...) I would feel better about it. I just hate having to deal with anything that _depends_ on a service on the internet. What if that service is retired, or the company disappears? Does that mean the hardware becomes useless after 90 days? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@live.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 20:34:33 -0800 Subject: RE: Meraki Here is the question and answer from Meraki about what happens when the license expires. 1. What happens when or if the license for the Cloud Management of the device lapse? - Devices have a 90 day grace period for renewal. Beyond that, they will not be able to pass traffic. JonFrom: jk.har...@live.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Meraki Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:35 -0400 The actual response was at the end of the contract + 90 days is when the action would take place. The action in this instance was that it would stop passing traffic. When I get to work later I will cut the actual question/answer from my email and send it to the list. I don't doubt that most larger businesses would keep this device under contract. It would be very unwise to do otherwise, although I have seen other businesses that depend on their network, not keep their high dollar network devices under contract. Like I said earlier did find the fact that unlike a lot of other IT directed businesses they seemed to be more interested in allowing their hardware, in this case, to sell themselves rather than have some sales drone push it hard. That in itself to me is a big plus for the company. Jon From: gswe...@acts360.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Meraki Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 22:57:46 + It doesn't stop passing traffic and right now that’s not a hard cut off. We have gone a few weeks past an expiration and we can still monitor and make changes. I am sure at some point though you would lose ability to manage it. That is the one part of the whole solution that I am concerned with, but in almost all of my clients they keep up the warranty on their devices, controllers, servers, etc because to have it fail and either the replacement cost or downtime exposure is pretty steep. The renewal cost on the licenses is paying for the service. If you factor the cost of a Rukus, Firetide, Cisco, etc by the time you pay for the AP's, the controller and license cost I am pretty sure you would be very close to the cost over 3 years. At least we were when we checked it over Ruckus on 3 years. Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.com P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849 Office 813-644-3479 Cell From: Adam Greene maill...@webjogger.net Reply-To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013 9:27 AM To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Meraki I wonder if after 3 years you just lose the ability to manage it via the cloud. It seems pretty bad
Re: OT - Suggestions for using Netgear wifi and extender with Security camera setup
Questions: 1. How far away are these buildings? 2. Are both APs indoors? (I don't know if they have an option for external antennas, and if you are using them.) Do you have an option to use outdoor APs? 3. What kind of bandwidth requirements are you anticipating? How much bandwidth is the current camera system using? 4. How dependent are you on this connection? Can you handle downtime, or do you need something you can guarantee access. 5. Is there a possibility of using a wired connection between buildings? Can you dig a trench, run an aerial, or VPN? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 07:19:04 -0800 Subject: OT - Suggestions for using Netgear wifi and extender with Security camera setup Hi folks. I know this isn't a networking list, but thought I would throw this out and see what comes back. A client has installed a security camera/dvr system in their facility. They have two buildings, one is remote with no lan connectivity to anything else. The camera vendor had them buy a Netgear WNDR3400v2 router and a Netgear WN2000RPT wireless extender for the remote building. The extender is configured for the same subnet as the Netgear router - 192.168.1.x They installed them and put the remote dvr on the repeater and the main building's dvr on the prod lan. The two netgears are using their own subnet - eg 192.168.1.x and passing traffic through to the prod lan pc where management pc is installed. The DVR boxes are working and sending traffic to the management pc on the prod lan - 192.168.10.x The Netgear router has it's Internet connection plugged in to the prod lan using dhcp. Now they want to use the Netgear to provide wifi in the office. I would like to just use these to provide wifi and a bridged network between the two offices. I found settings to tell the main router to be an AP only, but when I do this, I lose connectivity from the remote office - it won't let the remote dvr talk to the prod lan anymore. Anyone have a better suggestion as how to architect this, as when I look at the netgear forums, it's all over the place about whether these things even work reliably in a business environment. Maybe I should look at more enterprise grade solutions like the Meraki, etc. ? Thanks Don K ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: apipa scripting?
We’d like to use apipa to assign a static IP address to the wifi adapters; so that we can turn off DHCP in the office, and yet allow DHCP when not in the office. Why do you not want a DHCP server? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: S Powell [mailto:powe...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 11:57:45 -0800 Subject: apipa scripting? My google-Fu has failed, does anyone know how to script apipa configuration? Automatic private IP addressing (normally it is that 169… address you get when something is wrong with your networking) We are doing this using the alternative configuration tab under ipv4 properties that is enabled when you select DHCP. I’d like to be able to script this process and not do every computer in the office by hand. We’d like to use apipa to assign a static IP address to the wifi adapters; so that we can turn off DHCP in the office, and yet allow DHCP when not in the office. Thanks. Sean ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: apipa scripting?
Do what we do: Continue to use DHCP, but reserve all addresses. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: S Powell [mailto:powe...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 13:07:26 -0800 Subject: Re: apipa scripting? We are running DHCP now, we are just looking to get rid of it as we change some things around. We're looking to tie addresses together, so that we have static ethernet addresses on the 192.168.0.x range where x = the machine ID and have the static wifi addresses be in the 192.168.1.x range So if I see something on x.x.x.45 I know at a glance that it can only be one computer. It eliminates ambiguity. On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.org wrote: We’d like to use apipa to assign a static IP address to the wifi adapters; so that we can turn off DHCP in the office, and yet allow DHCP when not in the office. Why do you not want a DHCP server? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: S Powell [mailto:powe...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 11:57:45 -0800 Subject: apipa scripting? My google-Fu has failed, does anyone know how to script apipa configuration? Automatic private IP addressing (normally it is that 169… address you get when something is wrong with your networking) We are doing this using the alternative configuration tab under ipv4 properties that is enabled when you select DHCP. I’d like to be able to script this process and not do every computer in the office by hand. We’d like to use apipa to assign a static IP address to the wifi adapters; so that we can turn off DHCP in the office, and yet allow DHCP when not in the office. Thanks. Sean ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Details of the February 22nd 2013 Windows Azure Storage Disruption
Agreed, but I also know that all released information goes through PR. I'm sure this released report was scrubbed clean of anything that could have made Microsoft liable. Heck, I'm guilty of a bit of spin. I accidentally plugged a switch back into itself, causing a loop? My internal release states A network configuration error occurred. Sm:)e. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 10:28:00 -0800 Subject: Re: Details of the February 22nd 2013 Windows Azure Storage Disruption On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Tim Evans tev...@sparling.com wrote: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/windowsazure/archive/2013/03/01/details-of-the-february-22nd-2013-windows-azure-storage-disruption.aspx I give MSFT credit for doing a good analysis and *publishing it*. A lot of companies just say Sorry, we've fixed it, and we promise it'll never happen again (and this time, we really mean it) over and over. Good on them for that. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Details of the February 22nd 2013 Windows Azure Storage Disruption
What more can be said? Having had very similar issues where I work (co-worker patched and rebooted all the production servers in a small resource domain 3 days early because he clicked the wrong box) why wouldn't you take this at face value? Because Microsoft wouldn't want to be sued by everybody who lost business during the outage. It is in their best interest to say Yup, it was a problem, and we fixed it. It is _not_ in their best interest to say Yup, it was a problem. We forgot to do something we were supposed to do. We fixed it. It's a small thing, but it's still important to those pesky lawyers. cynicAnd why wouldn't they lie, if it makes them look better anyways? Maybe they had a much more major issue. Sure, it's more likely that they had their certificate issue, but who knows./cynic --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 12:11:41 -0800 Subject: Re: Details of the February 22nd 2013 Windows Azure Storage Disruption Did you just manage to agree and also imply Sure, they released it but are probably still not telling us what 'really happened? Because that's sort of what it seems like you just did. They said they had a process and human error entered the process. Now that they know what happened they can take steps to hopefully reduce the chance of it happening again. What more can be said? Having had very similar issues where I work (co-worker patched and rebooted all the production servers in a small resource domain 3 days early because he clicked the wrong box) why wouldn't you take this at face value? Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.orgwrote: Agreed, but I also know that all released information goes through PR. I'm sure this released report was scrubbed clean of anything that could have made Microsoft liable. Heck, I'm guilty of a bit of spin. I accidentally plugged a switch back into itself, causing a loop? My internal release states A network configuration error occurred. Sm:)e. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 10:28:00 -0800 Subject: Re: Details of the February 22nd 2013 Windows Azure Storage Disruption On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Tim Evans tev...@sparling.com wrote: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/windowsazure/archive/2013/03/01/details-of-the-february-22nd-2013-windows-azure-storage-disruption.aspx I give MSFT credit for doing a good analysis and *publishing it*. A lot of companies just say Sorry, we've fixed it, and we promise it'll never happen again (and this time, we really mean it) over and over. Good on them for that. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Details of the February 22nd 2013 Windows Azure Storage Disruption
I suspect, if you check the terms of service for Azure, you wouldn't be able to sue them for anything more than whatever your SLA says you will get. I'm sure their liability is limited up front, not matter what they admit to have done or not. That doesn't stop lawyers from trying. FWIW, I thought it was a pretty straightforward explanation of what happened and the steps they took to prevent it from happening again. Agreed. I'm just being cynical today, I guess. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Tim Evans [mailto:tev...@sparling.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 13:08:08 -0800 Subject: RE: Details of the February 22nd 2013 Windows Azure Storage Disruption I suspect, if you check the terms of service for Azure, you wouldn't be able to sue them for anything more than whatever your SLA says you will get. I'm sure their liability is limited up front, not matter what they admit to have done or not. FWIW, I thought it was a pretty straightforward explanation of what happened and the steps they took to prevent it from happening again. …Tim -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 12:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Details of the February 22nd 2013 Windows Azure Storage Disruption What more can be said? Having had very similar issues where I work (co-worker patched and rebooted all the production servers in a small resource domain 3 days early because he clicked the wrong box) why wouldn't you take this at face value? Because Microsoft wouldn't want to be sued by everybody who lost business during the outage. It is in their best interest to say Yup, it was a problem, and we fixed it. It is _not_ in their best interest to say Yup, it was a problem. We forgot to do something we were supposed to do. We fixed it. It's a small thing, but it's still important to those pesky lawyers. cynicAnd why wouldn't they lie, if it makes them look better anyways? Maybe they had a much more major issue. Sure, it's more likely that they had their certificate issue, but who knows./cynic --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 12:11:41 -0800 Subject: Re: Details of the February 22nd 2013 Windows Azure Storage Disruption Did you just manage to agree and also imply Sure, they released it but are probably still not telling us what 'really happened? Because that's sort of what it seems like you just did. They said they had a process and human error entered the process. Now that they know what happened they can take steps to hopefully reduce the chance of it happening again. What more can be said? Having had very similar issues where I work (co-worker patched and rebooted all the production servers in a small resource domain 3 days early because he clicked the wrong box) why wouldn't you take this at face value? Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.orgwrote: Agreed, but I also know that all released information goes through PR. I'm sure this released report was scrubbed clean of anything that could have made Microsoft liable. Heck, I'm guilty of a bit of spin. I accidentally plugged a switch back into itself, causing a loop? My internal release states A network configuration error occurred. Sm:)e. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 10:28:00 -0800 Subject: Re: Details of the February 22nd 2013 Windows Azure Storage Disruption On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Tim Evans tev...@sparling.com wrote: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/windowsazure/archive/2013/03/01/details-of-the-february-22nd-2013-windows-azure-storage-disruption.aspx I give MSFT credit for doing a good analysis and *publishing it*. A lot of companies just say Sorry, we've fixed it, and we promise it'll never happen again (and this time, we really mean it) over and over. Good on them for that. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http
RE: Zultus VOIP?
Anyone using them? Anyone heard things about them? I've never heard of them. And I have been trying to keep up with various VOIP phone systems of late... We're looking at a rough price of $13K for this. 20 users. Includes phones, switch, 20 install/training hours, hardware, software, etc. Does that seem reasonable for 20 users? That sounds expensive to me, but some of the features you mentioned are unique. (Especillaly the Click to Dial on web pages.) Also I don't know how much of that cost is the installation/training. I've been looking at FortiVoice as a much less expensive solution, recently. Of course, I've been using Shoretel for years, and still recommend them. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 08:53:41 -0800 Subject: RE: Zultus VOIP? What features are you most interested in? The wonderful feature of low costs and easy implementation :) Some others: *The ability to allow our users to one-click dial from our custom built web database. (Which this will do out of the box). Click on a number and dial. Simple as that. It's amazing how many vendors can't seem to nail this. *Remote handsets that will work over SSL (Some we've looked required a VPN connection on the user's home router - no thanks). *A great UC client. These guys nailed it. The interface is awesome, and binding your DID to any device is easy and intuitive for users. *The main driver here is to replace an ancient PBX. All the main features of a modern phone system will be a bonus for us, which I'm sure will drive up productivity - so we are excited for that as well. After looking at various solutions, these guys seem to meet all our requirements, and have a licensing model we like. (They don't try to tack on a licen$e for every feature. Everything is enabled out of the box). I really like the VAR we are working with currently, which I can't say about all the other solutions we've looked at. They also play well with other hardware vendors and don't have any proprietary requirements. It's also a true SIP system. We're looking at a rough price of $13K for this. 20 users. Includes phones, switch, 20 install/training hours, hardware, software, etc. Does that seem reasonable for 20 users? Sam From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Zultus VOIP? I haven't, but that's probably not saying much. :) What features are you most interested in? ASB http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market. On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Sam Cayze sca...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone using them? Anyone heard things about them? Any input appreciated. -Sam http://www.zultys.com/products/voip-business-phone-systems/zultys-mx250.php ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Zultys VOIP?
Some require the phone number to be prefix with the tel: hyperlink denotation, which is fine as well, as we maintain/design the database and can re-code it. Ah, well that's easy. That's a browser association of a hyperlink with a program. Much like you can associate irc:// with your favorite IRC client. I thought it was recognizing phone numbers on web pages (much like the iPhone does) and allowing you to click it to dial, no hyperlinking required. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 10:22:20 -0800 Subject: RE: Zultys VOIP? Matt, thanks for your input. If you're curious about the click to dial... Our ops team does tons of outbound calling. Numbers are stored in an online database. Users fat finger these into their phones. Time consuming; prone to errors. Want I want is to have our users click the number with their mouse to connect them to that number. Zultys's UC client has the ability to dial a number by selecting the text and hitting a hotkey, say F12. From any app. So, it's not really that fancy or unique imo. Simple, and I think all UC apps should do this by default. Some require the phone number to be prefix with the tel: hyperlink denotation, which is fine as well, as we maintain/design the database and can re-code it. -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Zultus VOIP? Anyone using them? Anyone heard things about them? I've never heard of them. And I have been trying to keep up with various VOIP phone systems of late... We're looking at a rough price of $13K for this. 20 users. Includes phones, switch, 20 install/training hours, hardware, software, etc. Does that seem reasonable for 20 users? That sounds expensive to me, but some of the features you mentioned are unique. (Especillaly the Click to Dial on web pages.) Also I don't know how much of that cost is the installation/training. I've been looking at FortiVoice as a much less expensive solution, recently. Of course, I've been using Shoretel for years, and still recommend them. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 08:53:41 -0800 Subject: RE: Zultus VOIP? What features are you most interested in? The wonderful feature of low costs and easy implementation :) Some others: *The ability to allow our users to one-click dial from our custom built web database. (Which this will do out of the box). Click on a number and dial. Simple as that. It's amazing how many vendors can't seem to nail this. *Remote handsets that will work over SSL (Some we've looked required a VPN connection on the user's home router - no thanks). *A great UC client. These guys nailed it. The interface is awesome, and binding your DID to any device is easy and intuitive for users. *The main driver here is to replace an ancient PBX. All the main features of a modern phone system will be a bonus for us, which I'm sure will drive up productivity - so we are excited for that as well. After looking at various solutions, these guys seem to meet all our requirements, and have a licensing model we like. (They don't try to tack on a licen$e for every feature. Everything is enabled out of the box). I really like the VAR we are working with currently, which I can't say about all the other solutions we've looked at. They also play well with other hardware vendors and don't have any proprietary requirements. It's also a true SIP system. We're looking at a rough price of $13K for this. 20 users. Includes phones, switch, 20 install/training hours, hardware, software, etc. Does that seem reasonable for 20 users? Sam From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Zultus VOIP? I haven't, but that's probably not saying much. :) What features are you most interested in? ASB http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market. On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Sam Cayze sca...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone using them? Anyone heard things about them? Any input appreciated. -Sam http://www.zultys.com/products/voip-business-phone-systems/zultys-mx25 0.php ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T
RE: Zultys VOIP? (oops, not spelled Zultus)
It looks like Fortinet aquired TalkSwitch in 2011. http://www.channelweb.co.uk/crn-uk/news/2046476/fortinet-makes-voip-acquisition --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 10:32:13 -0800 Subject: RE: Zultys VOIP? (oops, not spelled Zultus) FortiVoice, huh? I'll do love my FortiGate and their support staff, (Although keeping a close eye on the other thread about them). I'll have to check them out some more. Their website is a little sparse with information... How long have they been in the voice arena? -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Zultus VOIP? Anyone using them? Anyone heard things about them? I've never heard of them. And I have been trying to keep up with various VOIP phone systems of late... We're looking at a rough price of $13K for this. 20 users. Includes phones, switch, 20 install/training hours, hardware, software, etc. Does that seem reasonable for 20 users? That sounds expensive to me, but some of the features you mentioned are unique. (Especillaly the Click to Dial on web pages.) Also I don't know how much of that cost is the installation/training. I've been looking at FortiVoice as a much less expensive solution, recently. Of course, I've been using Shoretel for years, and still recommend them. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 08:53:41 -0800 Subject: RE: Zultus VOIP? What features are you most interested in? The wonderful feature of low costs and easy implementation :) Some others: *The ability to allow our users to one-click dial from our custom built web database. (Which this will do out of the box). Click on a number and dial. Simple as that. It's amazing how many vendors can't seem to nail this. *Remote handsets that will work over SSL (Some we've looked required a VPN connection on the user's home router - no thanks). *A great UC client. These guys nailed it. The interface is awesome, and binding your DID to any device is easy and intuitive for users. *The main driver here is to replace an ancient PBX. All the main features of a modern phone system will be a bonus for us, which I'm sure will drive up productivity - so we are excited for that as well. After looking at various solutions, these guys seem to meet all our requirements, and have a licensing model we like. (They don't try to tack on a licen$e for every feature. Everything is enabled out of the box). I really like the VAR we are working with currently, which I can't say about all the other solutions we've looked at. They also play well with other hardware vendors and don't have any proprietary requirements. It's also a true SIP system. We're looking at a rough price of $13K for this. 20 users. Includes phones, switch, 20 install/training hours, hardware, software, etc. Does that seem reasonable for 20 users? Sam From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Zultus VOIP? I haven't, but that's probably not saying much. :) What features are you most interested in? ASB http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market. On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Sam Cayze sca...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone using them? Anyone heard things about them? Any input appreciated. -Sam http://www.zultys.com/products/voip-business-phone-systems/zultys-mx25 0.php ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise
RE: Office 2013 retail tied to single PCs
I just downloaded LibreOffice 4 this morning, and I've been playing with it on various word documents... Thus far, it's very good. Even the stupid timesheet document (that should have been a spreadsheet) with all it's fancy frames and formatting renders correctly. Open source software will never replace proprietary software. But it does raise the bar. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Mathew Shember [mailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:34:39 -0800 Subject: RE: Office 2013 retail tied to single PCs I wonder how long before the OS is subscription based? -Original Message- From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:13 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Office 2013 retail tied to single PCs It's pushing some people to a subscription based plan all right... Just not always Microsoft's. -Original Message- From: Ben M. Schorr [mailto:b...@rolandschorr.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Office 2013 retail tied to single PCs It's true, the license is now non-transferrable. Part of their efforts to push everybody to the subscription-based plans, no doubt. Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.com -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Office 2013 retail tied to single PCs Reportedly, the licensing for Office 2013 FPP (Full Packaged Product, AKA retail box) has changed. Microsoft reportedly says it's only licensed for the first PC you install it on. Old PC dies, you buy a new PC? Better buy a new copy of Office, too. So it's like OEM, but at retail pricing. http://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/does-your-copy-of-office -2013-die-with-your-computer-20130208-2e3a1.html In addition to being evil and rude, I think this may violate the doctrine of first sale, making it an illegal provision in some jurisdictions. But if Microsoft won't activate your install, that leaves court as an alternative. Maybe we'll switch to LibreOffice for 2020. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Another Java Update to close in the wild exploits Feb 19, 2013
Doesn't JAVA stand for Just Another Vulnerability Announcement? (Courtesy of the Security Now! podcast.) --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 08:21:30 -0800 Subject: Re: Another Java Update to close in the wild exploits Feb 19, 2013 http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9236657/Oracle_to_release_yet_more_patches_for_Java?taxonomyId=17 *ASB **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker* **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market…*** On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org wrote: This is supposed to be post Update 13, which happened about a week ago. This is to fix the other flaws that Security Explorations sent to Oracle and I am sure there will be more. Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.org This electronic message and any attachments may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If you are reading this message, but are not the intended recipient, nor an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you are strictly prohibited from copying, printing, forwarding or otherwise disseminating this communication. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to the message. Then, delete the message from your computer. Thank you. -Original Message- From: Ben M. Schorr [mailto:b...@rolandschorr.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 10:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Another Java Update to close in the wild exploits Feb 19, 2013 That update was from a week ago wasn't it? Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer Roland Schorr Tower - Flagstaff Office 928-526-3970 www.rolandschorr.com * www.twitter.com/bschorr * www.facebook.com/RolandSchorr -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 8:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Another Java Update to close in the wild exploits Feb 19, 2013 Sorry included an internal group on the email, that I fubbed when sending the email. But yes Java is going to be patched again, another 50 fixes, maybe that will take care of what Security Explorations has sent to oracle. I am sure this will not be end of this. Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.org This electronic message and any attachments may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If you are reading this message, but are not the intended recipient, nor an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you are strictly prohibited from copying, printing, forwarding or otherwise disseminating this communication. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to the message. Then, delete the message from your computer. Thank you. -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 9:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Another Java Update to close in the wild exploits Feb 19, 2013 Too late. Thanks Webster -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Subject: Recall: Another Java Update to close in the wild exploits Feb 19, 2013 Ziots, Edward would like to recall the message, Another Java Update to close in the wild exploits Feb 19, 2013. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~
Re: [OT] Future of wires (was: Guest network security)
+1 Wired networking is dead! Long live wired networking. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 07:28:41 -0800 Subject: [OT] Future of wires (was: Guest network security) On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 1:21 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Just as an aside - I think that wired end-point connectivity is going the way of the dodo, except for the most demanding loads ... I disagree. Aside from demanding loads: * Security - Right or wrong, a lot of big orgs don't trust wireless due to security reasons. You can provide all the counter-arguments you want, but if some large stupid org says Thou Shalt Use Wires, then people working with that org will have to comply. * Robustness - A wireless link will never be as trouble-free as a hardline. * Power - As long as something needs to have a wire for power, you lose most of the the benefit of wireless. While plenty of end-user devices are becoming small enough to be battery powered, plenty others are not. What I think is far more likely is we'll see wireless become far more pervasive, complimenting wired networks rather than replacing them. I do expect wired end-user devices in homes and SOHOs to just about disappear, though. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Anyone heard of Meraki?
Last year, we did a comparison of Meraki, Ruckus, Aerohive, Aruba and Cisco. Meraki to be very on-par with Aerohive, as they have similar features and are both cloud managed. We figured the math, and if you wanted only a few APs, the cloud-managed solutions where very cost effective. But, as you increased your AP count, the controller based solutions started to make more sense. We ended up choosing Ruckus. Factors in our choice were: Price (When including the year-over-year costs of controllers), wifi range (beamforming, which we find very impressive), AP load (airtime fairness), and ease of use. We are using the Meraki MDM solution for our iPads, as it's free and better than a sharp stick in they eye. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 06 Feb 2013 06:02:21 -0800 Subject: Anyone heard of Meraki? Anyone heard of or use Meraki wireless? It's part of Cisco, not sure if it is a recent acquisition though. One of our consultants who the IT Director here listens to recommended it. We already have regular Cisco wireless here at HQ and at one of our plants. The other plant is scheduled for wireless this year. http://www.meraki.com/ Cloud managed wireless. There's that overused word again. Comments or thoughts welcome. Tom ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: iso mounting software for Windows Server 2008 R2
Peazip Portable. No, it doesn't mount the .iso. It just extracts the files. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 06 Feb 2013 07:02:07 -0800 Subject: iso mounting software for Windows Server 2008 R2 Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1 physical server. What is your favorite, safe, and least expensive, software for mounting an .iso file on this OS? Here are a few I've found, but have never used any: MagicISO Virtual CD/DVD-ROM (MagicDisc) http://www.magiciso.com/tutorials/miso-magicdisc-overview.htm (freeware) PowerISOhttp://www.poweriso.com/index.htm ($29.95) Virtual CloneDrive http://www.slysoft.com/en/virtual-clonedrive.html (freeware) I currently can't burn the .iso to media as we don't have a dual-layer burner available (and the disc would require one due to size). Going to have to look into that as well now. Thanks, Bonnie ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Robocopy reliability
I have never had a problem with Robocopy. It did exactly what I told it to do and gave me detailed information on what it did. I could not ask for more from a command line copy utility. I'm sensing that your Boss has a bias, perhaps due to a bad experience he had previously. If so, what does _he_ recommend? Maybe he has some awesome software I've never heard of. (It wouldn't be the first time!) --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Mon, 04 Feb 2013 09:08:33 -0800 Subject: RE: Robocopy reliability I've used it many times for file migration moves and even for permissions copies. Just this past weekend I migrated a pretty complex old Windows 2008 server shared to Windows 2008 R2 this past weekend. I didn't copy permissions since they were a mess. The only errors I've seen were my own, usually syntax or spelling. What are you trying to do? From: Tigran K [mailto:tigr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Robocopy reliability Having a discussion with the boss on how we should do something I suggested robocopy. His reply was a strict NO. Reasoning was that it's not reliable. He said I've seen it break. So my question is have you seen it break? Is robocopy any more or less reliable than built in copy? I did point out that robocopy is built in to windows as well at least for Windows7. Didn't seem to help. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Java 7 patch 13 out...
Firefox now requires you to click to play any plugin (save Flash, and only if it's the most up-to-date version): http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2414931,00.asp I don't know if this feature has shown up in any of the ESR versions of FF yet. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Mon, 04 Feb 2013 13:46:45 -0800 Subject: RE: Java 7 patch 13 out... Its been beyond ridiculous... and all the 3rd party utilities are always vulnerable (flash, Adobe, Java, etc etc) its what the exploit kits prey on to exploit things. Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.org This electronic message and any attachments may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If you are reading this message, but are not the intended recipient, nor an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you are strictly prohibited from copying, printing, forwarding or otherwise disseminating this communication. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to the message. Then, delete the message from your computer. Thank you. [Description: Description: Lifespan] From: Stephen Holtz [mailto:ste...@addisonreserve.cc] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 2:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Java 7 patch 13 out... This is getting ridiculous! If you don't need java it is getting removed. Stephen L. Holtz, MCSE, MCT Director of Information Technology Addison Reserve Country Club 7201 Addison Reserve Blvd. Delray Beach, Fl. 33446 Ph: 561-455-1220 Cell: 561-441-0646 www.addisonreserve.cchttp://www.addisonreserve.cc/ [ARLogo][PlatinumClub][DistinguishedEmerald] Proudly recognized as a 5-Star Platinum Club of America. This e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify me by replying to this message and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 2:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Java 7 patch 13 out... Good one I am sure they will bypass the protections in this version within the week, I will just wait for the Post from the Polish Team on Bugtraq. Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.orgmailto:ezi...@lifespan.org This electronic message and any attachments may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If you are reading this message, but are not the intended recipient, nor an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you are strictly prohibited from copying, printing, forwarding or otherwise disseminating this communication. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to the message. Then, delete the message from your computer. Thank you. [Description: Description: Lifespan] From: Mathew Shember [mailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 8:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Java 7 patch 13 out... O So there is only one exploit! It's Groundhog Day! Patch the exploit. It's Groundhog Day! Patch the exploit. ... From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 2:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Java 7 patch 13 out... Exploit to follow tomorrow, which is Groundhog Day. :-) On Friday, February 1, 2013, S Powell wrote: no that's it... i'm off to update... - Sub ubi semper ubi ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.comjavascript:; with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body:
Re: Java 7 patch 13 out...
There's a lot of chatter on the Mozilla Enterprise mailing list about this stuff right now. -- Ben Ooh, another list to check out... Thanks Ben. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Mon, 04 Feb 2013 15:25:29 -0800 Subject: Re: Java 7 patch 13 out... On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.org wrote: Firefox now requires you to click to play any plugin (save Flash, and only if it's the most up-to-date version): http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2414931,00.asp I don't know if this feature has shown up in any of the ESR versions of FF yet. Click-to-play doesn't and won't exist in 10.0.x. It does in 17.0.x. There's a lot of chatter on the Mozilla Enterprise mailing list about this stuff right now. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: MS site?
YES! +1 I've used this site before, but only for the sites it tracks of course: http://downrightnow.com/ --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 10:17:13 -0800 Subject: Re: MS site? On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com wrote: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/support.microsoft.com Thanks to the prevalence of cloud computing/distributed server farms, we need http://www.downforsomebutnotall.com/ -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Where to get copies of my various documentation scripts
I want to see some of your early batch files J @ECHO OFF ECHO Hello, world! ;-) I must be missing something: What does the ;-) do in batch? Is that powerscript? I don't think it's bash... --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:34:04 -0800 Subject: Re: Where to get copies of my various documentation scripts On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: I want to see some of your early batch files J @ECHO OFF ECHO Hello, world! ;-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Favorite VPN solution?
We use Barracuda's SSLVPN. It is based off the old sslExplorer open source product, and does the Java-based install of their vpn client. In many ways, I think this is similar to the Sonicwall SSLVPN. The barracuda didn't have any per-user license fees. This was a major factor in our choice of VPN solutions. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:55:59 -0800 Subject: Re: Favorite VPN solution? Have you looked at any of the sslvpn options. I use a sonicwall sslvpn and like it a lot. Has clients for mac and linux as well as windows. Bill -Original Message- From: Tim Evans Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Favorite VPN solution? I was looking at OpenVPN, but it looks to me like it won't work in our environment. We have multiple subnets on our internal network, and it looks like the OpenVPN client needs admin rights on the endpoint to update routes. Our users don't have admin rights and that's not something I'm looking to change. Have you found a workaround for this or is it not an issue in your environment? ...Tim -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 8:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Favorite VPN solution? On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 7:46 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@sfgtrust.com wrote: The clients work fine, but I'm wondering if there are other solutions out there. We're using OpenVPN because (1) it's based on extremely well-tested code, (2) it's light-weight, and (3) it's free. The main UI is extremely limited. Basically an on/off indication. That can be disconcerting to users. OTOH, the log is quite detailed and useful. It provides no PKI management infrastructure of its own. We use OpenSSL. I'm told Windows Certificate Services also work. OpenVPN has nothing in the way of sophisticated management facilities. Just text config files and text log files. We only have one site/policy/config, so it's no problem for us, but in a larger environment with many differing policies that could get burdensome. Thoughts? Anyone using clientless VPN with a PIX? clientless VPNs just mean they dynamically install/run the client via a Java applet/ActiveX control. Deciding whether or not this is a good idea is left as an exercise to the reader, but I note that allowing such things in general is a common security problem. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Favorite VPN solution?
Sm:)e. Ya know it! - In all fairness, Barracuda has fixed their issue. As for Java... --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:19:08 -0800 Subject: RE: Favorite VPN solution? So Java and Barracuda? Two exploited products in one. Sweet! :) Thanks Webster -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Subject: Re: Favorite VPN solution? We use Barracuda's SSLVPN. It is based off the old sslExplorer open source product, and does the Java-based install of their vpn client. In many ways, I think this is similar to the Sonicwall SSLVPN. The barracuda didn't have any per-user license fees. This was a major factor in our choice of VPN solutions. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Favorite VPN solution?
From: Kennedy, Jim Ok, you owe the taxpayers of Elyria a new screen. I haven't CC'd like that in years. Webster: You win. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:20:00 -0800 Subject: RE: Favorite VPN solution? Ok, you owe the taxpayers of Elyria a new screen. I haven't CC'd like that in years. -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 2:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Favorite VPN solution? So Java and Barracuda? Two exploited products in one. Sweet! :) Thanks Webster -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Subject: Re: Favorite VPN solution? We use Barracuda's SSLVPN. It is based off the old sslExplorer open source product, and does the Java-based install of their vpn client. In many ways, I think this is similar to the Sonicwall SSLVPN. The barracuda didn't have any per-user license fees. This was a major factor in our choice of VPN solutions. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Networking stuff.....oo-er
+1. CentOS can also have additional packages that don't appear in Red Hat's repositories. These are disabled by default, but be aware of the possibility of their existence. See here: http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 14:23:52 -0800 Subject: Re: Networking stuff.oo-er On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:46 PM, kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: CentOS, apparently CentOS is just Red Hat Enterprise Linux with the Red Hat Inc trademarks stripped out. So find a guide on hardening RHEL, and follow that. :) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Director and Files size utility
+1 WinDirStat --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 08:43:22 -0800 Subject: Re: Director and Files size utility Windirstat? On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Stefan Jafs stefan.j...@gmail.com wrote: I currently use Treesize Pro by Jam software to check files and folders for size on my Windows 2003 fileserver, however it always seem to cause load problem on the server, even after I have turned down the Scan option to low priority for the program. Are there any other that you can recommend, that could safely be run on the server? -- Stefan Jafs ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Patch management recommendations
We looked at the KBox several years ago. Is it still extremely expensive? (I think we were quoted $20,000, which is a lot for us.) --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 04:25:03 -0800 Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations I had a conference yesterday with the Kace team and a product overview. The newest release has lots of cool features that I didn't see in the version I used previously. And if you do not already have a help desk, you can use that module (no extra cost). For small companies like mine, this sort of all-in-one product is great. Users can enter tickets, install software (system perms not logged in user), and read any internal KB docs you wish to post. KBox also comes with two Bomguard licenses, so you do not need extra GoToAssist or whatever purchases, if you just need a few licenses. Not that it may matter to the list, but I always found the Kbox agent very easy to deploy and upgrade. Tom From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations We run Kace as a Virtual appliance (K1000) with no tweaks and it handles our approx. 250 computers with no issue. John W. Cook Network Operations Manager Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations Almost all the Virginia Community colleges, dumped Altiris in favor of KACE. The latest update to Altiris was a disaster for everyone that attempted it. We were not one of the brave colleges to try, but from what I heard, the system requirements were huge, a dual socket, quad core server with 24gig ram was barely adequate to serve 3 to 400 client workstations. Ouch. We currently run both the K1000 and K2000 on a HP/Compaq dl-380 dual socket, quad core with 16gig ram under vmware 5 and it is very responsive. Also two other windows virtuals on the same host. The instructor led training was very good also. From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations I'd take a step back to wait and see on Altiris with yesterday's news. http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2013/01/16/altiris-to-become-altiris-again-symantec-dumping-it-for-less-than-it-paid/ From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 8:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Patch management recommendations Kace Altiris SCCM with SCUP One of these should fit most of your clients needs. Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture and Engineering Services Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.commailto: [cid:image001.jpg@01CDF492.11CAAC30] The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.comhttp://www.guardianlife.com/ From:Charlie Kaiser charl...@golden-eagle.orgmailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date:01/16/2013 06:04 PM Subject:Patch management recommendations I work for a consulting firm that manages a variety of SMB clients. As we increase our client load and the size of the clients (moving from the 3-10 seat to the 50-1000 seat clients) we are implementing more advanced products for a variety of tasks. We are currently looking at patch management solutions. Our current paradigm is a mix of WSUS and manual intervention, but it's not enough, obviously. I haven't used a centralized patch management system for around 5-6 years (used to use early versions of Shavlik) so I haven't been keeping up with the market. We're now looking for something that does 3rd party apps, not just MS stuff, so WSUS is off the table. Our clients are all on MS platforms, though; almost no *nix or Apple. I don't envision a one-size-fits-all product. I expect that we'll want a variety of solutions tailored to the size and complexity of the client. And I have no illusions about the ease of patch management given any product. :-) My boss would love an MSP-style of centrally managed product that can handle all our clients, but my belief is that trying to go that route is much more difficult than doing per-client implementations, especially without dedicated patch management admins.
Re: Windows 7 Sysprep, PITA
I've had issues with windows Vista/7 images. Here's one of the big gotchas: You can only sysprep an image 3 times. After that, it's no good... you'll have to start over. What that means: You make a base install of 7 and sysprep (1) image it. then you make a basic image with your usual software ans sysprep (2) that. Then you make a very specific lab image and sysprep (3) that... That's it. you can't do it anymore. If you try to modify your 3rd sysprep image and re-sysprep (4) it... game over. This is one of the ways Microsoft is trying to prevent piracy. Either that or they are trying to drive techs crazy. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: itli...@imcu.com [mailto:itli...@imcu.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 13:01:31 -0800 Subject: Windows 7 Sysprep, PITA Why is the sysprep on Windows 7 so hard to get right? I have an image that has worked for over a year. I added some software to it and reimaged. Not the original machine comes out of Sysprep just fine but the install.wim is failing on all imaged devices with a Windows failed to load please insert Windows media and try again. WTF??? Any ideas? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: FoxIT reader vulnerability
I'm no security expert, but here's a counterpoint on why Adobe Reader would be (in my mind) a bigger threat: * Everybody opens PDFs every day. * There is no did you want to open this prompt for a PDF. * There is (as far as I know) no certificated PDF, or if there is, I have never seen it used. The opposite is true for Java. * Java is used every day, but not nearly to the extent of PDF. * Java will ask if you intended to open the plugin. * Java does allow for signed certificates for validation. I am not arguing which one is worse, because I don't know. But the conversation is interesting to me. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 02:39:02 -0800 Subject: RE: FoxIT reader vulnerability By default yes Adobe renders PDF with Javascript, which allows both good and evil javascript to execute, as we all know the various flaws in adobe, this definitely leads to an attack vector which has been exploited time and time again. But seriously I still see Java as the bigger threat, and as others have said it will continue to be this for years to come. Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.org -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 6:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: FoxIT reader vulnerability Doesn't Adobe (and possibly other PDF viewers) include PDF rendering with javascript now? I just want a dumb .pdf reader. Is it just me? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 14:46:31 -0800 Subject: Re: FoxIT reader vulnerability On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.org wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/01/11/foxit_pdf_plugin_vuln/ Just now checked the FoxIT web site. The currently offered version is 5.4.4.1128, which the article mentions as being vulnerable (as are older versions). May end up having to use Adobe anyway… I strongly suspect FoxIt licenses at least their core code from Adobe. Many features and vulnerabilities seem to track on a one-to-one basis. FoxIt is a lot more lightweight, though, so it prolly has a smaller attack surface overall. It may be they just don't include all the bloat that Adobe does. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: FoxIT reader vulnerability
Doesn't Adobe (and possibly other PDF viewers) include PDF rendering with javascript now? I just want a dumb .pdf reader. Is it just me? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 14:46:31 -0800 Subject: Re: FoxIT reader vulnerability On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.org wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/01/11/foxit_pdf_plugin_vuln/ Just now checked the FoxIT web site. The currently offered version is 5.4.4.1128, which the article mentions as being vulnerable (as are older versions). May end up having to use Adobe anyway… I strongly suspect FoxIt licenses at least their core code from Adobe. Many features and vulnerabilities seem to track on a one-to-one basis. FoxIt is a lot more lightweight, though, so it prolly has a smaller attack surface overall. It may be they just don't include all the bloat that Adobe does. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: smb firewall recommendation
I've used Sonicwalls, and currently have a TZ100 in a small remote office. It works very well and has given me no trouble. The old complaint was that their support was horrible. Now that they are owned by Dell, I have no idea what the support situation is like. YMMV. We have recently moved to a FortiGate. I really like it, so I recommend that you check them out as well. Last, you can always go really cheap and get pfSense or ClearOS, or some other software-based firewall. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Jimmy Tran [mailto:jt...@teachtci.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 08:32:22 -0800 Subject: smb firewall recommendation Hi All, I'm in the market for a firewall for a small office with les that 15 users. I was looking at the Sonicwall TZ series but people are telling me to stay away from Sonicwall. Has the product improved? Any other recommendations. Would like the UTM features. Thanks, Jimmy ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: FoxIT reader vulnerability
I still have to recommend Evince. Small, Fast, Open source, and MSI installer for Windows. http://projects.gnome.org/evince/ --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Richard McClary [mailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 07:50:40 -0800 Subject: FoxIT reader vulnerability Greetings! http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/01/11/foxit_pdf_plugin_vuln/ Just now checked the FoxIT web site. The currently offered version is 5.4.4.1128, which the article mentions as being vulnerable (as are older versions). May end up having to use Adobe anyway... -- richard The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Recommended Ultrabooks?
I have some requests coming in from teachers and administrators for smaller laptops. I'm curious what the list would recommend. 11-13 (Leaning toward the 11, but there are not many of those.) Can run Windows 7 Pro. Thin and Light. Less than $1000. (The cheaper, the better, really.) I've already looked around at various HPs and Dells, but I'm more interested in real-world experiences. Most teachers/administrators look at this as Laptop vs iPad. Thanks for any suggestions. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: LAptops
Which drivers are you missing? Alas, as with Windows 2000, XP may be loosing driver support for some components. If you know exactly which components you are missing drivers for, you can sometimes go directly to the manufacturer of the components for drivers. Also, on occasion, you can find the same components in a different model of PC that does have XP versions of the drivers. YMMV. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 04 Jan 2013 07:40:52 -0800 Subject: LAptops Hi Has anyone purchased any Dell Dell Vostro 2520 laptops And put windows xp on them We run XP as we have software that will not run on windows 7 at the moment due to cost we cant upgrade this so we are stuck on XP On dells site they don't list drivers for xp (I know some of the latitude systems are supported with xp but its all down to cost as they are more expensive and I have a budget to work with) Just wondered if anyone had found xp drivers and was running one of the vostro 2520 machines with windows xp Nigel Parker Systems Engineer Ultraframe (UK) Ltd Tel: 01200 452329 Fax: 01200 452201 Web: www.ultraframe.com Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. The statements and opinions expressed in this email are my own and may not represent those of Ultraframe (UK) Ltd. This email is subject to copyright and the information contained in it is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is sent out only for intended recipient(s). Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not an intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or other use or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and unlawful. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Replacement for SteadyState
SteadyState died with Vista, as I'm sure you're aware. The top dog in this field is Deep Freeze. I also have used the products by FotresGrand, in particular Fortres 101 (which is not exactly the same as Deep Freeze or SteadyState, but they do sell a product called Clean Slate which does what you want, I believe.) --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Bambi J Saastad [mailto:bambi.j.saas...@seagate.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 04 Jan 2013 08:36:04 -0800 Subject: Replacement for SteadyState Hello I was wondering if any of you could suggest a replacement for SteadyState. I have a roomful of pc's that the factory users use for browsing etc that I am replacing with Windows 7 Pro that need to be locked down. Can anyone suggest a product that does the same thing, wipe out any changes on reboot? TIA B ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Grrr....
Questions: 1. Which SSD did you purchase? 2. Which Highpoint card did you purchase? 3. Are you trying to use the 840's swappable drive bays? Or are you plugging the SSD directly to the MB/PCI card via SATA cable? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 02 Jan 2013 08:44:54 -0800 Subject: Grrr Bought an SSD to put into an old Dell PowerEdge 840. Seems no matter what I try I can't get joy on it. The server doesn't pick it up if I plug it into one of the built-in SATA ports, and a PCI 2.0 SATAIII card (cheaper Highpoint card) causes the OS (2008 R2) to bluescreen. Anyone see anything similar and have a fix? If I use the SSD/USB transfer adapter, it works fine as a USB HDD, but an 840 only has USB 2.0 so it limits to about 50Mb/sec, kind of defeating the purpose of an SSD... David Lum Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Restore 2008 R2 including product activation
Is there a native way to do this, or are backups the reason when you look up # of activations on MS's VLSC site they list more activations available than actual licenses? I am unsure on why, exactly, there is a larger number of activations than what we have licensed on our VLSC site, but it was my understanding that it was set higher than what you need so you could do things like re-installs, re-imaging, etc. I have had to contact MS to have our activation number increased. They asked why, and I said Because we re-image the labs every year, and each re-image eats up an activation. They took that answer and us me more. I'm sure the artificial limit is there to prevent blatant theft of a VLSC product code. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 02 Jan 2013 10:59:07 -0800 Subject: Restore 2008 R2 including product activation Is there a way to do a backup/restore of 2008 r2 and not have to Windows re-activation? I found some links that use a 3rd party tool called Advanced Tokens Manager. Is there a native way to do this, or are backups the reason when you look up # of activations on MS's VLSC site they list more activations available than actual licenses? David Lum Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Restore 2008 R2 including product activation
Three letter suggestion. KMS I tried KMS back when it was implemented (Windows Server 2003 R2 days)... and it didn't work out for me. I'm guessing it's much improved; is it? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 02 Jan 2013 11:53:23 -0800 Subject: RE: Restore 2008 R2 including product activation Three letter suggestion. KMS -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 2:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Restore 2008 R2 including product activation Is there a native way to do this, or are backups the reason when you look up # of activations on MS's VLSC site they list more activations available than actual licenses? I am unsure on why, exactly, there is a larger number of activations than what we have licensed on our VLSC site, but it was my understanding that it was set higher than what you need so you could do things like re-installs, re-imaging, etc. I have had to contact MS to have our activation number increased. They asked why, and I said Because we re-image the labs every year, and each re-image eats up an activation. They took that answer and us me more. I'm sure the artificial limit is there to prevent blatant theft of a VLSC product code. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 02 Jan 2013 10:59:07 -0800 Subject: Restore 2008 R2 including product activation Is there a way to do a backup/restore of 2008 r2 and not have to Windows re-activation? I found some links that use a 3rd party tool called Advanced Tokens Manager. Is there a native way to do this, or are backups the reason when you look up # of activations on MS's VLSC site they list more activations available than actual licenses? David Lum Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Restore 2008 R2 including product activation
Yes, it's called the MS EES program. (Mirosoft Enrollment for Education Solutions) And yes, it's a deal. If you're a school (with 100+ staff members), it's well worth it. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 02 Jan 2013 12:04:38 -0800 Subject: RE: Restore 2008 R2 including product activation Three letter suggestion. KMS I tried KMS back when it was implemented (Windows Server 2003 R2 days)... and it didn't work out for me. I'm guessing it's much improved; is it? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 02 Jan 2013 11:53:23 -0800 Subject: RE: Restore 2008 R2 including product activation Three letter suggestion. KMS -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 2:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Restore 2008 R2 including product activation Is there a native way to do this, or are backups the reason when you look up # of activations on MS's VLSC site they list more activations available than actual licenses? I am unsure on why, exactly, there is a larger number of activations than what we have licensed on our VLSC site, but it was my understanding that it was set higher than what you need so you could do things like re-installs, re-imaging, etc. I have had to contact MS to have our activation number increased. They asked why, and I said Because we re-image the labs every year, and each re-image eats up an activation. They took that answer and us me more. I'm sure the artificial limit is there to prevent blatant theft of a VLSC product code. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 02 Jan 2013 10:59:07 -0800 Subject: Restore 2008 R2 including product activation Is there a way to do a backup/restore of 2008 r2 and not have to Windows re-activation? I found some links that use a 3rd party tool called Advanced Tokens Manager. Is there a native way to do this, or are backups the reason when you look up # of activations on MS's VLSC site they list more activations available than actual licenses? David Lum Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Disk encryption killer: Anyone see this?
I'm no security expert. But I do assume that if the physical machine is compromised, then the data it holds is as good as compromised as well, no matter what level of encryption you have. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 09:57:51 -0800 Subject: RE: Disk encryption killer: Anyone see this? I would say off the record no, if you used popular encryption software and a repeatable process, but when you lose physical security of an asset, given a reasonable amount of time and effort the encryption will be cracked and data will be obtained. Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.org From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:pa...@mmcwm.com] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 12:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Disk encryption killer: Anyone see this? Oh, great. I wonder what view CMS will take if a laptop is stolen\lost and it's encrypted. Will they still say it's a HIPAA violation? From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 12:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Disk encryption killer: Anyone see this? Comments anyone? Looks like bad news... http://thenextweb.com/insider/2012/12/20/this-299-tool-is-reportedly-cap able-of-cracking-bitlocker-pgp-and-truecrypt-disks-in-real-time/ David Lum Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Google Maps for iOS. Was: RE: iOS6 devices erroneously take ownership of meetings - Exchange Team Blog - Site Home - TechNet Blogs
It took 6 years and 3 after me reporting it for them to get my street name correct. 18 months, of them saying they have seen the error and are fixing it. Its only as good as the data used. Every mapping company has to re-invent the wheel. Why can't they share the accurate information they have gathered? Try OpenStreetMap.org. It's like Wikipedia for Maps. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:loonyto...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 09:08:29 -0800 Subject: Re: Google Maps for iOS. Was: RE: iOS6 devices erroneously take ownership of meetings - Exchange Team Blog - Site Home - TechNet Blogs Agreed but not just on the iOS app, this is on the web page as well. Poor. show. And apple get their data from Tom - Tom who own teleatlas, who is who Google get their mapping data from. It took 6 years and 3 after me reporting it for them to get my street name correct. 18 months, of them saying they have seen the error and are fixing it. Its only as good as the data used. On 14 December 2012 16:55, Guyer, Don dgu...@che.org wrote: I only looked at it for a minute last night, through bleary eyes. ** ** The few times I used it in the past, probably a few years ago, it was pretty much spot on. Oh well…. ** ** That’s what I have an actual NAV system now for. ** ** : ) ** ** Regards, * * *Don Guyer** **Catholic Health East - Information Technology* Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: *dgu...@che.org* Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 *For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.* [image: Description: Description: Description: InfoService-Logo240] ** ** *From:* Graeme Carstairs [mailto:loonyto...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, December 14, 2012 11:38 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Google Maps for iOS. Was: RE: iOS6 devices erroneously take ownership of meetings - Exchange Team Blog - Site Home - TechNet Blogs ** ** Google maps is pretty pants as well ** ** to this day it cant cirect you through aberdeen properly and frequently tells you to turn right into when the line on the map show you turning left. ** ** ** ** Nav free works much better ** ** On 14 December 2012 16:33, Free, Bob r...@pge.com wrote: Looked different than the old app on iOS5 to me First experience was an epic fail, I copied a link from the map to a Dr’s office with “send to” clipboard and pasted in appointment in calendar. Open link in calendar and it goes to a mall 40 miles away..pbbbttt That must be the apple influence on the app *From:* Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org] *Sent:* Friday, December 14, 2012 5:02 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Google Maps for iOS. Was: RE: iOS6 devices erroneously take ownership of meetings - Exchange Team Blog - Site Home - TechNet Blogs BTW, Google Maps is now back and available to download for iOS devices. Grabbed it last night. At first glance, looks the same as was the built-in version. Regards, * * *Don Guyer** **Catholic Health East - Information Technology* Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: *dgu...@che.org* Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 *For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.* [image: Description: Description: Description: InfoService-Logo240] *From:* Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org dgu...@che.org] *Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2012 3:51 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: iOS6 devices erroneously take ownership of meetings - Exchange Team Blog - Site Home - TechNet Blogs Well….the Australian Police say not to use the maps, so I won’t… http://www.redmondpie.com/australian-police-slams-ios-6-maps-recommends-using-alternatives/ Regards, * * *Don Guyer** **Catholic Health East - Information Technology* Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: *dgu...@che.org* Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 *For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.* [image: Description: Description: Description: InfoService-Logo240] *From:* Free,
Re: OT VDI in a box.
We have been looking at VDI in a Box as well, but not as a BYOD solution. I like BYOD, but I think it's not worth it in the end. If it's a Bring your device, but if it doesn't work then it's your problem, kind of BYOD, I have no problems. Otherwise, here are some bullets for shooting down this bad idea: * Will each student be expected to use the VDI-in-a-Box desktop to use Office? * Is it expected that the VDI-in-a-Box session will be where the students will be content filtered? * Will students be provided with a device if they cannot afford a laptop? (This is a question that often comes up for these kinds of ideas at our school.) * Will a student with an iPad, iPod touch or Android device have reduces productivity vs a computer with a built in keyboard? How will this be compensated for? * Will you be supporting BYOD devices after hours? Do you have the staffing for such support? * Is your wireless infrastructure up to the task of the increased workload? * Do all of your currently supported software program work under a VDI solution? * Does your school currently have the right to confiscate inappropriate material or devices? If you do, how does the student perform the necessary tasks without their BYOD? ... And I'm sure I can think of more. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 12:48:53 -0800 Subject: OT VDI in a box. We are going to have to go BYOD(oom). There is no escaping it in the public edu environment. The powers that be look at them as 'free' computers. So we are thinking a virtual desktop environment . One that is accessable via guest wireless and that can only talk to a few select servers...like their own user file servers. Then we deliver the appropriate desktop to them. This is for students, so we have to assume they are intentionally malicious/destructive/wanting to hack us. VDI in a box looks interesting. Rolls easily, runs on Hyper-V which is our virtualization software of choice Opinions and experiences gang? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: SemiOT #2: More on SAMBA 4.0
I am curious on what the list thinks about an open-source alternative to an Active Directory server means to them... I'm sure many here will shrug it off, but for smaller installs where money is tight, would you consider Samba 4.0 AD servers? I know I am. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:36:17 -0800 Subject: SemiOT #2: More on SAMBA 4.0 I like this, from the very end: Members of the Samba Team work for many of the largest companies in the software Industry and even helped Microsoft produce the protocol documentation that fully specifies the SMB/CIFS protocol. We always knew that MSFT could use help documenting things, didn't we? Kurt -- Forwarded message -- From: Jeremy Allison j...@samba.org Date: Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 9:32 AM Subject: Samba 4.0 released - The First Free Software Active Directory Compatible Server is now available ! To: sa...@samba.org, samba-techni...@samba.org, samba-annou...@samba.org Cc: j...@samba.org Samba Team Releases Samba 4.0 = December 11th 2012. The Samba Team is proud to announce the release of Samba 4.0, a major new release of the award-winning Free Software file, print and authentication server suite for Microsoft Windows clients. The First Free Software Active Directory Compatible Server == As the culmination of ten years' work, the Samba Team has created the first compatible Free Software implementation of Microsoft’s Active Directory protocols. Familiar to all network administrators, the Active Directory protocols are the heart of modern directory service implementations. Samba 4.0 comprises an LDAP directory server, Heimdal Kerberos authentication server, a secure Dynamic DNS server, and implementations of all necessary remote procedure calls for Active Directory. Samba 4.0 provides everything needed to serve as an Active Directory Compatible Domain Controller for all versions of Microsoft Windows clients currently supported by Microsoft, including the recently released Windows 8. The Samba 4.0 Active Directory Compatible Server provides support for features such as Group Policy, Roaming Profiles, Windows Administration tools and integrates with Microsoft Exchange and Free Software compatible services such as OpenChange. The Samba 4.0 Active Directory Compatible Server can also be joined to an existing Microsoft Active Directory domain, and Microsoft Active Directory Domain Controllers can be joined to a Samba 4.0 Active Directory Compatible Server, showing true peer-to-peer interoperability of the Microsoft and Samba implementations of the Active Directory protocols. Acknowledging the value of the interoperability of the Samba 4.0 Active Directory Compatible Server, Steve van Maanen, the co-founder of Starsphere LLC, an IT services company in Tokyo, said: Thanks to Samba4, I have two fully replicating Active Directory Domain controllers that boot in under 10 seconds ! It is nice to have alternatives, and Samba4 is a great one. Upgrade scripts are also provided for organizations using the previous Microsoft Windows NT Domain Controller functionality in Samba 3.x, to allow them to migrate smoothly to Samba 4.0. Suitable for low-power and embedded applications, yet scaling to large clusters, Samba 4.0 is efficient and flexible. Its Python programming interface and administration toolkit help in enterprise deployments. Created Using Microsoft Documentation = The Samba 4.0 Active Directory Compatible Server was created with help from the official protocol documentation published by Microsoft Corporation and the Samba Team would like acknowledge the documentation help and interoperability testing by Microsoft engineers that made our implementation interoperable. Active Directory is a mainstay of enterprise IT environments, and Microsoft is committed to support for interoperability across platforms, said Thomas Pfenning, director of development, Windows Server. We are pleased that the documentation and interoperability labs that Microsoft has provided have been key in the development of the Samba 4.0 Active Directory functionality. Introducing SMB2.1 File Serving Support === Samba 4.0 includes the first Free Software implementation of Microsoft's SMB2.1 file serving protocol. Building on the success of the SMB2.0 server in Samba 3.6, the Samba 4.0 file server component is an evolution of the trusted Samba file serving code that is used worldwide by vendors of file servers, such as IBM's clustered Scale Out Network Attached Storage (SONAS), and many other
RE: SemiOT #2: More on SAMBA 4.0
I have such a distaste for Samba from setting up printing *with server supplied drivers* back in the 3x days. Has 4 improved on that God awful abomination of a process? Since I am unsure of the problems you were having, I don't know. I believe it is still the same: A samba printer share is setup to the CUPS printer and the drivers are uploaded using the windows client driver interface. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 19:02:48 -0800 Subject: RE: SemiOT #2: More on SAMBA 4.0 I am curious on what the list thinks about an open-source alternative to an Active Directory server means to them... I'm sure many here will shrug it off, but for smaller installs where money is tight, would you consider Samba 4.0 AD servers? I know I am. First off, I'll state I am not a fan boy, I like MS and FOSS products equally, I run Linux both at home and work on my desktop. That being said, and with you assuming I might have a preference to Linux and Unix, I wouldn't consider such a thing. The first support need your client will face without you being on hand will cost more than the one time hit of an SBS or similar rollout. None of that abomination that is called Samba is supported by any of your client OS's vendor and lets face it, Linux admins are more difficult to find than a generic point-and-clicker that can still troubleshoot simple things. I have such a distaste for Samba from setting up printing *with server supplied drivers* back in the 3x days. Has 4 improved on that God awful abomination of a process? jlc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: I hate newegg...
I love Newegg... I can window shop _all_ _day_ _long_ if I want to. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 13:54:42 -0800 Subject: Re: I hate newegg... On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 1:47 PM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: Seems every time I buy something they give me coupon code to suck me into buying some related and irresistible item that I seem to think I really want. David Lum Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 Cry me a river, young 'un. Do you pull stuff off the endcaps and from the bins at the checkout in your grocery store, too? Seems to me your mental muscles need some work. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB
I know that you can use a VHDX over a SMB share... This can't be done with a VHD. Other than that, I'm not sure. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 13:18:24 -0800 Subject: Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB What is the benifit of the VHDX file type over VHD? On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 6:28 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: Server 2012 completely supports you just pointing to the old config files. You do not need to export/import. ** ** The major benefit you do not get is the upgrade to VHDX. ** ** *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] *Sent:* Friday, December 7, 2012 9:12 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB ** ** If the VM’s are not on the 2008R2 OS drive, is it necessary to export/import the VM’s, or could you just re-OS the 2008 R2 to 2012 and create new VM’s by pointing them to the VHD’s? I keep my guests simple with no snapshots and when I create the VM I put all the files/settings in the same folder (D:\VMs1\Server1, for example), etc. I don’t know if that will key off a reactivation of the OS or not, but it would save me about 5 hours of waiting for files to copy back and forth. ** ** iSCSI or other external storage is really looking convenient right about now…. ** ** *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com asbz...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, December 06, 2012 5:03 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB ** ** It's a cable that came with a firewall, too. But with the CAT5 staring me in the face, I made the change and was much happier for it. Live Migration peaked at about 882 Mbps during my last copy, but spent most of its time hanging out around 550 Mbps, so I was only losing 80% of my capacity before. :D ** ** I'll test it next with a VM that is off, and see how that impacts the transfer rates. *ASB **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker* **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market…* ** ** On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Art DeKneef art.dekn...@cox.net wrote:** ** Curious also what was up with the cable. Have a couple of short runs (60 feet or so) that are CAT 5 and are doing fine with gig speeds. Well getting average 550 Mbps on quick speed tests. Art *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, December 6, 2012 4:16 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB Do you know what happens if you don't pay attention and attach a **CAT5**cable to the NIC that you intend to use for Hyper-V Live Migration? Yeah, it operates at 10% of its overall potential. Thankfully, I noticed before moving a really large VM. Sigh. I was wondering what was up with the speed and then my eye caught the CAT5 marking. Off to the printer it goes. *ASB **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker* **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market…* ** ** On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: I migrated one server live and one that was shutdown from 2012 to 2012. No difference in the operation other than speed. The one that was off was smaller, which I'm sure helped, but it was faster. The one that was up continued to run without me losing more than a few pings. It was sweet. :) Now, I'm upgrading the other server with 6 VMs on it. We'll see how that goes. LOLThe one-by-one migration from 2008-R2 to 2012 was too slow for me. *ASB **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker* **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market…* ** ** On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 9:15 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: Cool. At home I have a 2008 R2 server running Hyper-V and 2 VM’s on it, think I’ll try the migration tonight myself…. Dave *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 05, 2012 3:25 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB Well, VM Host #1 just rebooted successfully after the upgrade, and it's looks like all is well. I'm going to practice moving
RE: File Services Clustering in Server 2012
I've tried the windows clustering services... years ago with Windows 2000. I never had any success with the failover. The concept is excellent: If a server fails, hardware or software, you have another server ready to pick up the services and go. VMs don't help if there is a software failure. Our problem was that when the service failed (in our case, file sharing services) the nodes did not correctly recognize the failure and promote the active server on the cluster. After a lot of failed attempts to get it to work, we abandoned all hope on windows clustering and we never looked back. My recommendation: If you want clustering, test it thoroughly before you implement it. Don't trust it until you've seen it work flawlessly. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:ken.corne...@kimball.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 08:40:32 -0800 Subject: RE: File Services Clustering in Server 2012 If the service doesn't start on one server, what makes you think it would start on the other server? If the service wouldn't start on the original server, it is probably because either the data is whacked, or there is some external resource that isn't available (user ID locked, database server not available, etc). When the service tries to start on the failover node, it is going to see the same problems. -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 10:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: File Services Clustering in Server 2012 Yep setting up a cluster just to protect against a service dying is overkill. I think that statement might be a bit to general. What if that service doesn't simply restart and 2500 people have their work impacted for 4 hours while its resolved? 2500*$30*4=$300,000.00 as an example... Does that application cluster investment still sound unrealistic? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Detecting standard desktops
I don't detect laptops/desktops... I detect the model.
I know of two ways to detect the model:
for /F delims= %%a in ('systeminfo.exe ^| findstr /c:^System Model:^') do
set var=%%a
... or ...
FOR /F tokens=2 delims== %%A IN ('WMIC csproduct GET Name /VALUE ^| FIND /I
Name=') DO SET result_model_With_spaces=%%A
...depending if you want to use WMIC or not. We use this to run driver scripts
on a machine, based on the model.
--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District
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From: Ben Scott
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To: NT System Admin Issues
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Sent: Wed, 05 Dec 2012
08:51:24 -0800
Subject: Re: Detecting standard desktops
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 11:36 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote:
http://blogs.technet.com/b/heyscriptingguy/archive/2004/09/21/how-can-i-determine-if-a-computer-is-a-laptop-or-a-desktop-machine.aspx
Whoa, like WTF are half of those returned types? This could get
interesting
And it gets better. Per the comments:
I have come across machines that DO have more than one chassis type
(Laptops on docking stations are Laptop/Notebook + Expansion Chassis)
We solved this problem by having the hostname reflect the type. So
if the hostname begins with FOOLT, it's a laptop. If it's FOOPC, it's
a desktop. Works every time. ;-)
-- Ben
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RE: Detecting standard desktops
From an old C programmer, I love to dish out *pointers; :) *groan* Sm:)e. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 05 Dec 2012 10:36:33 -0800 Subject: RE: Detecting standard desktops From an old C programmer, I love to dish out *pointers; :) Thanks Webster From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 12:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Detecting standard desktops Well in the end I seem to be getting some results from WMIC SystemEnclosure GET ChassisTypes, which just outputs the same mad set of types that the Scripting Guys used but I've managed to get quite good accuracy in the testing so far Hopefully this might do the trick Thanks for all the pointers ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: FORMAT without admin
I did a quick search, and I found this: http://blogx.co.uk/ViewItem.asp?Entry=794 It alludes to a group policy that allows users to format electable media... I hope that was the clue you were looking for! --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Mon, 03 Dec 2012 09:01:56 -0800 Subject: FORMAT without admin Is there a way to grant a user the ability to format hard disks, without granting them other permissions/privileges/rights/etc.? In particular, without Administrator rights? I want our Security dept people be able to format USB flash drives (which are considered hard disks), without needing to grant them full admin (even in a separate account). Under *nix, this is as easy as chmod g+w /dev/hd* or similar, but Windows is rather more complicated. There are things like the \Device\Hardisk*\DR* names, which allegedly have security features like ACLs, but I can't find anything useful about how to examine or change said ACLs. XP Pro SP3 and/or Vista Biz SP1. I'll take what I can get. Anyone got a clue they can spare me? -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: small office and branches setup
Cubby from Logmein is a new (beta) option: Free and unlimited if you don't use their cloud storage. Just sync it between computers. But I agree, Dropbox, Box.net or Skydrive (or, or, or...) all would be good inexpensive options for this. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 12:22:10 -0800 Subject: RE: small office and branches setup +1 Maintaining 3 home remote vpn tunnels sounds like a nightmare. Sync the dropbox to a local machine at the home office...back that up. -Original Message- From: Clark, Tommy R [mailto:tommy.r.cl...@saic.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 3:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: small office and branches setup Despite not wanting a cloud solution, a business Dropbox account, or something similar, may provide better performance than hosting a local server. It also eliminates maintenance hassles. -Original Message- From: bounce-9564627-8239...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9564627-8239...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of jesse-r...@wi.rr.com Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 2:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: small office and branches setup I'm always involved in med/large sized customers so I'm looking for input here. I have a new client that has 4 total offices across the US. Each of the 4 offices are basically a home-office with only 1 current user (potential to grow to 5-10 users at each office over the next couple years). The owner decided he would like a server at the main office location, mainly for the purpose of storing/sharing files that would be accessible between himself and users at the other 3 remote offices. Currently they send emails with attachments to share these files, which leads to versions/copies of files, and no central location for file storage (something he really wants) and onsite backups. He wants the files and data on a single server/device instead. I was imagining putting a single Dell/HP entry level file server on his site, running Windows 2008 R2 and potentially just leaving it in a Workgroup (I don't know if the user machines are Home/Pro editions of Windows yet) and sharing out the files/folders he wants. I'd have to setup a VPN tunnel between his main office and each of the 3 remote offices so the remote users had access to the server at his site. I've had good success with Mikrotik routers for this in the past with smaller sized customers. I don't think he really wants a cloud based solution so I'm just looking for input on small office file-sharing and easist ways to make it happen. I'm rusty on this, since I'm used to supporting 1000+ users typically. Input appreciated. J mail2web.com - What can On Demand Business Solutions do for you? http://link.mail2web.com/Business/SharePoint ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: small office and branches setup
Another option if you were already considering a windows server at each location: DFS-R. Perhaps others here have accomplished this? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 13:28:48 -0800 Subject: Re: small office and branches setup hosted sharepoint or other collaboration site ? On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 2:50 PM, jesse-r...@wi.rr.com jesse-r...@wi.rr.com wrote: I'm always involved in med/large sized customers so I'm looking for input here. I have a new client that has 4 total offices across the US. Each of the 4 offices are basically a home-office with only 1 current user (potential to grow to 5-10 users at each office over the next couple years). The owner decided he would like a server at the main office location, mainly for the purpose of storing/sharing files that would be accessible between himself and users at the other 3 remote offices. Currently they send emails with attachments to share these files, which leads to versions/copies of files, and no central location for file storage (something he really wants) and onsite backups. He wants the files and data on a single server/device instead. I was imagining putting a single Dell/HP entry level file server on his site, running Windows 2008 R2 and potentially just leaving it in a Workgroup (I don't know if the user machines are Home/Pro editions of Windows yet) and sharing out the files/folders he wants. I'd have to setup a VPN tunnel between his main office and each of the 3 remote offices so the remote users had access to the server at his site. I've had good success with Mikrotik routers for this in the past with smaller sized customers. I don't think he really wants a cloud based solution so I'm just looking for input on small office file-sharing and easist ways to make it happen. I'm rusty on this, since I'm used to supporting 1000+ users typically. Input appreciated. J mail2web.com – What can On Demand Business Solutions do for you? http://link.mail2web.com/Business/SharePoint ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Maps: WAS: windows phone 8
I downloaded the Here app from nokia on iOS. It's a quite decent map app, as
far as I can tell. I add it to my list of tried-and-accepted map apps:
Here
Google Maps(RIP)
Bing Maps
Waze
Mapquest
--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District
- Original Message -
From: Steven Peck
[mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
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Sent: Tue, 27 Nov 2012
08:15:06 -0800
Subject: Re: windows phone 8
Are the maps still lacking since they switched to using Nokia maps in the
back end for wp8?
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote:
If you are outside the US, then Windows Phone is sadly lacking, compared
to iPhone and Android
I've been a big WinMo/WP user (and currently have an Omnia 7), but when I
look at the apps and info available on iPhone and Android, it's just
depressing.
Mapping is poor on WP (well, maybe not compared to the latest IOS5 :) )
and many of the apps you'd love to use as a traveller on iPhone or Android
just aren't available (e.g. apps to find local restaurants, public
transport, book taxis). Apps like Instagram and Pandora don’t exist, nor
does Google Maps. Bing search is poor (maybe not in the US, but it's just
rubbish in every other country I've tried). Everything else, there's about
one main option on WP, instead of several. If you have more than one
LiveID
(e.g. one for work, one for personal, one for Messenger), then working out
how to get these to work together on your phone is a pain.
Personally I don't care for Facebook integration with my phone contacts -
and this is probably the one thing that WP does well. And there's a trial
mode for all the games, so you don’t have to buy up-front.
Cheers
Ken
-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 27 November 2012 7:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8
Agreed, on not missing Android. I've been using Android on phone and
tablet for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win devices. I
feel liberated.
-Original Message-
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8
I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the
issues mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We
went
with different phones based on personal preference regarding size and feel
and we are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks later.
I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for
everyday use and don't even get me going on battery life.
Tim
-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8
I'm digging the 8x. Of course, it still has that new car smell, so give
me a few days to see if the coolness wears off.
-Original Message-
From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8
Just had a look at the two together. Nokia is a lot thicker and heavier
and less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO. I prefer the 920 in spec to
the 8X, but think as something to carry around all day every day I might
go
down the HTC route ...
-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8
Lots of folks complaining about it. Also complaining of reboots and hung
screens.
The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases. Mine just showed
up an hour or so ago.
-Original Message-
From: joeu...@chronic.org [mailto:joeu...@chronic.org]
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8
Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life
Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
...now these points of data make a beautiful line...
Original Message
Subject: Re: windows phone 8
From: Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 3:43 am
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
It does? Mine's been lasting a day or two. I have turned off NFC
because well, I have no NFC devices. I also avoid ad based apps, just
purchased.
My wife's been lasting as well.
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RE: windows phone 8
Agreed, on not missing Android. I've been using Android on phone and tablet for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win devices. I feel liberated. I'm curious: What's liberating? I don't have a Windows phone to play with, so I can't reference. I am still using an old iPhone 3GS (which does me just fine) and I have an HP Touchpad with Cyanogoenmod 8 on it, so I have experience with iOS 6 and ICS. What makes the Windows Phone 8 so much better? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 12:14:38 -0800 Subject: RE: windows phone 8 Agreed, on not missing Android. I've been using Android on phone and tablet for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win devices. I feel liberated. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the issues mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We went with different phones based on personal preference regarding size and feel and we are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks later. I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for everyday use and don't even get me going on battery life. Tim -Original Message- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 I'm digging the 8x. Of course, it still has that new car smell, so give me a few days to see if the coolness wears off. -Original Message- From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 Just had a look at the two together. Nokia is a lot thicker and heavier and less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO. I prefer the 920 in spec to the 8X, but think as something to carry around all day every day I might go down the HTC route ... -Original Message- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 Lots of folks complaining about it. Also complaining of reboots and hung screens. The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases. Mine just showed up an hour or so ago. -Original Message- From: joeu...@chronic.org [mailto:joeu...@chronic.org] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... ...now these points of data make a beautiful line... Original Message Subject: Re: windows phone 8 From: Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 3:43 am To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com It does? Mine's been lasting a day or two. I have turned off NFC because well, I have no NFC devices. I also avoid ad based apps, just purchased. My wife's been lasting as well. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin WARNING: The information in this email and any attachments is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the named addressee, you must not use, copy or disclose this email (including any attachments) or the information in it save to the named addressee nor take any action in reliance on it. If you receive this email or any attachments in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete the same and any copies. CLS Services Ltd × Registered in England No 4132704 × Registered Office: Exchange Tower × One Harbour Exchange Square × London E14 9GE ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to
Re: windows phone 8
And you don't think (MS|Apple|Whomever) is tracking you? Well if the WP8 interface is the same as the Window 8 RT interface, I'll be less than enthusiastic. I guess I'll have to try one out to be sure. --Matt Ross On Nov 26, 2012, at 12:55 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Android is pretty much open space to do with what you want. But, to tell you the truth, it became a chore just managing apps, and app locations, etc. Plus, there's the whole Google tracks everything you do thing. I've been down just about every tablet/phone road. Touchpad, Android, iOS. It's not something I can put my finger on, just that the Windows 8 interface makes you *want* to use it. It's really hard to describe. Windows 8 UI makes iOS and Android feel old and tired. -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 3:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 Agreed, on not missing Android. I've been using Android on phone and tablet for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win devices. I feel liberated. I'm curious: What's liberating? I don't have a Windows phone to play with, so I can't reference. I am still using an old iPhone 3GS (which does me just fine) and I have an HP Touchpad with Cyanogoenmod 8 on it, so I have experience with iOS 6 and ICS. What makes the Windows Phone 8 so much better? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 12:14:38 -0800 Subject: RE: windows phone 8 Agreed, on not missing Android. I've been using Android on phone and tablet for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win devices. I feel liberated. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the issues mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We went with different phones based on personal preference regarding size and feel and we are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks later. I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for everyday use and don't even get me going on battery life. Tim -Original Message- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 I'm digging the 8x. Of course, it still has that new car smell, so give me a few days to see if the coolness wears off. -Original Message- From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 Just had a look at the two together. Nokia is a lot thicker and heavier and less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO. I prefer the 920 in spec to the 8X, but think as something to carry around all day every day I might go down the HTC route ... -Original Message- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 Lots of folks complaining about it. Also complaining of reboots and hung screens. The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases. Mine just showed up an hour or so ago. -Original Message- From: joeu...@chronic.org [mailto:joeu...@chronic.org] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... ...now these points of data make a beautiful line... Original Message Subject: Re: windows phone 8 From: Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 3:43 am To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com It does? Mine's been lasting a day or two. I have turned off NFC because well, I have no NFC devices. I also avoid ad based apps, just purchased. My wife's been lasting as well. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana
Re: windows phone 8
Oops. I meant CM9. I typed 8. Can't wait for 10. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:48:03 -0800 Subject: Re: windows phone 8 Put CyanogenMod9 on that device, pronto. :) My touchpad is loving it. Android is quirky. Not so bad when you get the pure variants, but because of the hardware differences, even rooting is awkward. My Droid RAZR can't get a CyanogenMod9 or 10 for a while, and Eclipse, while a nice ROM, was missing some things I cared about. My Verizon updates have made things slower than not, and they just released v4.0, so who knows when I'll even see v4.1 much less v4.2? No thanks. The land of mobile anarchy is not for me. *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker** *Providing Expert Technology Consulting Services for the SMB market…* On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.orgwrote: Agreed, on not missing Android. I've been using Android on phone and tablet for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win devices. I feel liberated. I'm curious: What's liberating? I don't have a Windows phone to play with, so I can't reference. I am still using an old iPhone 3GS (which does me just fine) and I have an HP Touchpad with Cyanogoenmod 8 on it, so I have experience with iOS 6 and ICS. What makes the Windows Phone 8 so much better? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 12:14:38 -0800 Subject: RE: windows phone 8 Agreed, on not missing Android. I've been using Android on phone and tablet for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win devices. I feel liberated. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the issues mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We went with different phones based on personal preference regarding size and feel and we are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks later. I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for everyday use and don't even get me going on battery life. Tim -Original Message- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 I'm digging the 8x. Of course, it still has that new car smell, so give me a few days to see if the coolness wears off. -Original Message- From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 Just had a look at the two together. Nokia is a lot thicker and heavier and less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO. I prefer the 920 in spec to the 8X, but think as something to carry around all day every day I might go down the HTC route ... -Original Message- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 Lots of folks complaining about it. Also complaining of reboots and hung screens. The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases. Mine just showed up an hour or so ago. -Original Message- From: joeu...@chronic.org [mailto:joeu...@chronic.org] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... ...now these points of data make a beautiful line... Original Message Subject: Re: windows phone 8 From: Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 3:43 am To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com It does? Mine's been lasting a day or two. I have turned off NFC because well, I have no NFC devices. I also avoid ad based apps, just purchased. My wife's been lasting as well. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body
RE: windows phone 8
Sounds good. I hope I get the chance to play with one sometime. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 16:29:35 -0800 Subject: RE: windows phone 8 I can tell you that from my POV the People Hub (instead of Contacts) is a much nicer way to interact with people. I show my friends with Android or iOS phones how you can post to someone's Facebook wall, post to Twitter regarding them, IM them, text them, call any number of phones that they might have and more all from one spot and they start drooling all over themselves. The built in family room and other rooms is awesome for anyone with kids. Yes, I know that you can setup shared calendars and such in Google and then access them from your phone, but the way that Windows Phone has it built in and configured makes it SO much nicer and easier to use. Accessing apps is much easier with Windows Phone and the intelligence behind typing on the Windows Phone keyboard is truly amazing. The WP intelligent typing does not just suggest spelling corrections like Google or Apple phones do, it actually looks at WHAT you are typing and suggests the next work based on the entire sentence and thoughts being typed. I have sent messages where I only had to type the first letter and then tap the words in the auto-correct line. After using that feature going back to my Android phone that I use for work is very much like picking up a chisel and piece of slate. Try it, you will be amazed, and it improves with use as it gets to know you. The speech typing is far superior to Android's also in my experience. There is a lot more to it, but those are a few of the biggies. Regards, Tim -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 Agreed, on not missing Android. I've been using Android on phone and tablet for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win devices. I feel liberated. I'm curious: What's liberating? I don't have a Windows phone to play with, so I can't reference. I am still using an old iPhone 3GS (which does me just fine) and I have an HP Touchpad with Cyanogoenmod 8 on it, so I have experience with iOS 6 and ICS. What makes the Windows Phone 8 so much better? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 12:14:38 -0800 Subject: RE: windows phone 8 Agreed, on not missing Android. I've been using Android on phone and tablet for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win devices. I feel liberated. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the issues mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We went with different phones based on personal preference regarding size and feel and we are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks later. I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for everyday use and don't even get me going on battery life. Tim -Original Message- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 I'm digging the 8x. Of course, it still has that new car smell, so give me a few days to see if the coolness wears off. -Original Message- From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 Just had a look at the two together. Nokia is a lot thicker and heavier and less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO. I prefer the 920 in spec to the 8X, but think as something to carry around all day every day I might go down the HTC route ... -Original Message- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 Lots of folks complaining about it. Also complaining of reboots and hung screens. The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases. Mine just showed up an hour or so ago. -Original Message- From: joeu...@chronic.org [mailto:joeu...@chronic.org] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life Regards
RE: Window 8 on your PC
You would be correct if we were talking laptops or tablets for individual users. But I'm talking about labs of computers for students. Every 50 minutes, a new set of users must come in and they expect to get to their files and settings. For this reason, the simple action of logging off needs to be simple. Microsoft has chosen, in their infinite wisdom, to make this process difficult. Maybe not difficult for you or I, but it's not obvious to the layperson. Here are some possible scenarios: 1) Users don't log off. This causes either A) the session to be locked, making it impossible to login[1] or B) let the next student see/screw with the last user's data. Oh, I guess I could C) allow multiple log in sessions, but this is not ideal. 2) Users share desktops. If you can't log off, just stay logged in! Everybody can use the same desktop and home folder then. (Again, not ideal.) It's not that I'm against Windows 8's DCIM interface. I'm not all that thrilled by it, but I see where they are going. I see the benefit on smaller, more mobile devices. (Which, oddly, Microsoft hasn't been focusing on. Where is the 7 RT Tablet?) I am hopeful that Microsoft can make a few changes that will make it much more friendly on both Touch and Desktop interfaces. But until they do, we won't be adopting it. [1] As a side rant: Why can't Windows allow an administrator to force a logoff of a locked account locally on a machine? This was possible in XP. Starting with Vista, the only way an administrator could locally logoff a locked machine was to force a power down. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 06:43:44 -0800 Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC Also, consider that Windows 8 is built for devices that are never meant to be shut off. Why give easy access to a function that we are moving beyond? From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC You no longer have to pre-tell Windows that you want to shut down and let it handle everything for you. Windows is now hardware aware enough that you just hit the power and Windows does whatever you told it to do (Power Settings) How enlightening! We've gotten so used to the scenario where we couldn't use the power button to turn a device off that now being able to do so seems weird. What? I can use the device's power button to turn the Windows device off? That's CRAZY!. Amazing what mind shift just one sentence can make. From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 5:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC Running the same 4 here, except we went with the Samsung Slates instead of the Surface, they are excellent machines. Once I demonstrated to users that the Start Page is just where their Start Button went to they were totally onboard. It is a total mind shift (just like Office 2003 to Office 2007, but once you make that shift it is much more useful. As for Shutdown being hard to get to, what I was told by a friend at Microsoft (and which makes perfect sense once you think about it) is just use the power button on your device (whatever it might be). You no longer have to pre-tell Windows that you want to shut down and let it handle everything for you. Windows is now hardware aware enough that you just hit the power and Windows does whatever you told it to do (Power Settings). This won't work in some environments where the power button is not accessible, but for the majority of businesses it works just fine, and it is incredibly fast! Going to Sleep and waking back up take my machines on average 2 seconds. Tim From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 3:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC J I'm running all three - plus a desktop. From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:25 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC Keep the Win 8 info coming! I've been tasked with kicking it around in our environment. Laptop, Surface and a phone. Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. Description: Description: Description: InfoService-Logo240 From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues
RE: Window 8 on your PC
I think what the problem is here is the default behavior of the ACPI shutdown (aka, what the computer does when the ATX/style power button is pressed.) Windows, by default, shuts down the PC. You can change the behavior of what happens when you press the power button. It's in the control panel, search for power button and you'll find it. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Mike Hoffman [mailto:m...@drumbrae.net] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 10:18:03 -0800 Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC They introduce something called an ATX power supply at about the same time as NT3.51. Before this the switch on the front was just mains (as was the cable on the back of it). You tend to learn quickly about power safety when fixing a PC with Mains in the case. Mike From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] Sent: 21 November 2012 17:31 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC We've gotten so used to the scenario where we couldn't use the power button to turn a device off that now being able to do so seems weird. Since when? I've been in IT for 12 years, never recall not being able to use the power button... I always hit the power button. It's the power button. From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC You no longer have to pre-tell Windows that you want to shut down and let it handle everything for you. Windows is now hardware aware enough that you just hit the power and Windows does whatever you told it to do (Power Settings) How enlightening! We've gotten so used to the scenario where we couldn't use the power button to turn a device off that now being able to do so seems weird. What? I can use the device's power button to turn the Windows device off? That's CRAZY!. Amazing what mind shift just one sentence can make... From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 5:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC Running the same 4 here, except we went with the Samsung Slates instead of the Surface, they are excellent machines. Once I demonstrated to users that the Start Page is just where their Start Button went to they were totally onboard. It is a total mind shift (just like Office 2003 to Office 2007, but once you make that shift it is much more useful. As for Shutdown being hard to get to, what I was told by a friend at Microsoft (and which makes perfect sense once you think about it) is just use the power button on your device (whatever it might be). You no longer have to pre-tell Windows that you want to shut down and let it handle everything for you. Windows is now hardware aware enough that you just hit the power and Windows does whatever you told it to do (Power Settings). This won't work in some environments where the power button is not accessible, but for the majority of businesses it works just fine, and it is incredibly fast! Going to Sleep and waking back up take my machines on average 2 seconds. Tim From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 3:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC :) I'm running all three - plus a desktop. From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:25 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC Keep the Win 8 info coming! I've been tasked with kicking it around in our environment. Laptop, Surface and a phone. Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.orgmailto:dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595tel:610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528tel:610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440tel:610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839tel:610-492-3839. [cid:image001.jpg@01CDC814.8BE934F0] From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC Unless all of your apps are from the Windows 8 store (with the modern UI), you practically run in desktop mode anyway. From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Window 8 on your PC Are you guys changing your Windows 8 UI to be more like Win7 or leaving it as-is and learning new tricks? David Lum Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229tel:503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764tel:503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Window 8 on your PC
We won't be deploying it this school year, that's for sure. It's just too late and we would get a lot of negative feedback. Also we tend to hold off on such deployments until the product has a little shake-down time and we get a break to do upgrades. Personally, I'm not looking forward to 8 on the desktop in a lab environment. One nitpick of my own: It's very difficult to log off, which is something every 7-18 year old in our schools will have to do. While some know that you can quickly find a logout with Ctrl-Alt-Del, most don't. Last, most of the software run by our users aren't in the DCIM* interface. So really, there isn't a feature that is yet pushing us to Win8 yet. I have seen start-button replacements, like Start8, but we like to go with the Officially supported versions of things if we can. Thus, if Microsoft makes it an option to stick people to the Desktop and give them a way to launch programs/logoff, I'll give it another try. (* DCIM - Don't call it Metro) --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 13:07:38 -0800 Subject: Window 8 on your PC Are you guys changing your Windows 8 UI to be more like Win7 or leaving it as-is and learning new tricks? David Lum Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Window 8 on your PC
...and there was much rejoicing. Yeaa! Um, is this talk written anywhere on a tech journal? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 14:50:07 -0800 Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC There is talk that the Start button will be coming back in a future update. -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 5:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Window 8 on your PC We won't be deploying it this school year, that's for sure. It's just too late and we would get a lot of negative feedback. Also we tend to hold off on such deployments until the product has a little shake-down time and we get a break to do upgrades. Personally, I'm not looking forward to 8 on the desktop in a lab environment. One nitpick of my own: It's very difficult to log off, which is something every 7-18 year old in our schools will have to do. While some know that you can quickly find a logout with Ctrl-Alt-Del, most don't. Last, most of the software run by our users aren't in the DCIM* interface. So really, there isn't a feature that is yet pushing us to Win8 yet. I have seen start-button replacements, like Start8, but we like to go with the Officially supported versions of things if we can. Thus, if Microsoft makes it an option to stick people to the Desktop and give them a way to launch programs/logoff, I'll give it another try. (* DCIM - Don't call it Metro) --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 13:07:38 -0800 Subject: Window 8 on your PC Are you guys changing your Windows 8 UI to be more like Win7 or leaving it as-is and learning new tricks? David Lum Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
iSCSI with HP/Brocade switches
Hey List. I have our new Dell/Equalogic vSphere cluster up and running, but we have been having some issues as of late with latency on switch side of the equation. When we set up the cluster, we decided to use a pair of HP 2910al-24G switches. These were not the switches recommended by our VMWare vendor (They recommended a pair of Brocade 6610 switches). Now that we have been having these latency issues, we are considering the recommended switches. So here's my questions: 1) Has anybody used HP switches (2910al-24s or similar) as the iSCSI transport? Has anyone seen similar issues, or are there some specific configurations that need to be double-checked? 2) Anybody seen any issues with the Brocade switches? (I expect the answer to be no, but it's never too late/early to ask.) --Matt Ross Ephrata School District ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: windows phone 8
As someone who doesn't have Exchange, I'm curious: What's the big killer features of Exchange Notes? What makes it so important to have on your phone? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 10:09:43 -0800 Subject: Re: windows phone 8 I have the Nokia 920 on order with Rogers here in Toronto, all the reviews I have read is that it’s big and heavy but other vice a great phone, I also use Notes quite extensively as well, for my iPad I use iMExchange2, for the free version I just have to manually updated it. For my current phone the Samsung Galaxy S III, I have not bothered with Notes yet and now I’m waiting for the Nokia so well see . . Stefan On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Guyer, Don dgu...@che.org wrote: I always trust the reviews on sites like Engadget, Gizmodo and even NewEgg. Might not be much out there yet as it’s a fairly new device but, what I’ve heard has all been pretty positive if you like Windows Phones.** ** ** ** Regards, * * *Don Guyer** **Catholic Health East - Information Technology* Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: *dgu...@che.org* Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 *For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.* [image: Description: Description: Description: InfoService-Logo240] ** ** *From:* Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] *Sent:* Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:54 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* OT: windows phone 8 ** ** Thinking about getting the nokia 920. Anyone have any reasons they’d like to share about why or why not to get this device. Also, real world how is the app situation for winphone 8? Anything you really miss from the ios or android world of apps and features? All of the official reviews always seem to miss the real details that make or break a phone for me. Thanks. Bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Stefan Jafs ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: The Ripple Effect of Windows 8 - Datamation
I read the article. I smell an agenda. Don't get me wrong: I like Linux. I also have some concerns with Windows 8 on desktops. I also believe that most of the items on Linux and do most of jobs of what you can do in Windows. But the article is a little to perfect. Too many things happend in such a short period of time... I'll call BS. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 10:07:05 -0800 Subject: Re: The Ripple Effect of Windows 8 - Datamation Windows 8 is a big change but in many other ways it's not that big. I remember the change from 'progman' to explorer (start menu). The most common joke was 'I have to go to Start to shut down?' My original first IT centric job (as opposed to also being the computer guy who did other stuff mostly) was as a grunt migrating desktops from DOS/Win3.11/Banyon vines to WinNT3.51 in an Enterprise. I remember when Windows NT 4 came out some people came unglued. However, they did a big education push after smaller trials with newsletters and documentation to prepare the user population for the change and it went from RAWR IT'S CHANGING to 'Hurry up and migrate me already!' over the course of the year. Any deployment should have some variation of this to properly manage any change, whether the interface is the same or it changes. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Guyer, Don dgu...@che.org wrote: I was expecting this article to be about an “organization”, not a “Consultancy”, using their environment as a test bed. ** ** This article would have read a lot differently if this was about a Fortune 500 company. ** ** Seems to me it was just an article lightly bashing Windows 8. ** ** No offense meant to anyone. ** ** Regards, * * *Don Guyer** **Catholic Health East - Information Technology* Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: *dgu...@che.org* Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 *For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.* [image: Description: Description: Description: InfoService-Logo240] ** ** *From:* Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, November 07, 2012 11:27 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: The Ripple Effect of Windows 8 - Datamation ** ** Sometimes it takes a disaster to make management pay attention to your goals. Sometimes you can make a disaster to achieve your goals... On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 6:37 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: He said RTM, not GA – but still. You are right. *From:* Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] *Sent:* Wednesday, November 7, 2012 12:31 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: The Ripple Effect of Windows 8 - Datamation Wow, they sure got a lot done in the week since Win 8 released. Sent from my Windows Phone -- *From: *Angus Scott-Fleming *Sent: *11/6/2012 9:04 PM *To: *NT System Admin Issues *Subject: *The Ripple Effect of Windows 8 - Datamation Fascinating article. The Ripple Effect of Windows 8 - Datamation http://www.datamation.com/applications/the-ripple-effect-of-windows-8-1.html When our firm's employees found Windows 8 too unwieldy, we transitioned to Linux Mint instead and soon found that we didn't need any Microsoft products at all. I have known the author online for a couple of years, he's an active Spiceworks user and an experienced Windows admin. Angus -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here:
Re: A question about Virtualization
Hey David. My recommendation: Start small. Find a desktop with a VM enabled chip and create a little VM server. All of the major players have a free version to use: VMWare: ESXi (The industry standard) Microsot: Hyper-V Server (Quickly gaining popularity) Citrix: XenServer (Best for Desktop Virtualization, I hear.) Linux: ProxMox VE (Web-based VM, but no Desktop Virtualization option) After you get your feet wet, you will then start to see what kind of investment you are in for. You'll have to start thinking of large servers to host VMs, with lots of processors/memory, not to mention extra networking and shared storage. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: itli...@imcu.com [mailto:itli...@imcu.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 06 Nov 2012 08:28:21 -0800 Subject: A question about Virtualization I have no experience with Virtualized anything. I have read VMware is better than Citrix. What kind of hardware do I put all of this on? A Blade server with a SAN back end? I really have no opinions or experience on any of this. Please don't flame me to badly. Thanks David ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: OT: Scour redirect virus?
I dunno. I do remember someone bringing it up on a list (perhaps this one) previously. As soon as I saw it, I printed it out. I have it hanging on my wall, and I bring it down whenever someone paranoid about security starts to freak out and ask me How do I keep them from accessing my bank account?! I realize that the 1-page is supposed to be a joke... yet it isn't. Sm:)e. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Tom Yergeau [mailto:tyerg.itm...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 08:34:42 -0800 Subject: RE: OT: Scour redirect virus? Yes! Awesome, thank you. That was exactly the poster I was thinking of when I said scissors security. I think that it might have run in eWeek or ComputerWorld years ago? Many thanks. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Scour redirect virus? LOL ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market. On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.org wrote: What's your definition of scissors security ? http://www.dumbentia.com/pdflib/scissors.pdf yuk yuk yuk! --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Tom Yergeau [mailto:tyerg.itm...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 10:50:32 -0800 Subject: RE: OT: Scour redirect virus? What's your definition of scissors security ? Cutting the internet connection, or at least running a VM on each desktop that's used for all internet access and reset to a baseline snapshot at the end of each day. Thanks for the list of products, I'll check them out. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 12:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Scour redirect virus? Hi Tom, What's your definition of scissors security ? Solutions like Bit9 Parity, CoreTrace Bouncer, Faronics Anti-Executable http://www.faronics.com/products/anti-executable/standard/ , and Savant Protection are available today, and the cost per end-point is comparable to traditional AV solutions. There's also BitLocker from Microsoft. As with virtually all other technologies, increased implementations lead to improvements in cost and refinements in the feature set. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market. http://www.point2security.com/author.asp?section_id=2075 http://www.point2security.com/author.asp?section_id=2075 http://www.point2security.com/author.asp?section_id=2075doc_id=248849 doc_id=248849 doc_id=248849 On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Tom Yergeau tyerg.itm...@gmail.com wrote: Unless we use scissors security how can we avoid things that even the experts can't isolate the code for? This article a while back brought it all into focus for me. http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9231418/Elusive_TDL4_malware_variant_ infected_Fortune_500_companies_gov_t_agencies There are some promising products out there like Bromium, but that's for large environments, very new, and probably very expensive. Where does that leave the rest of us? From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 10:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Scour redirect virus? The thing about malware is that you really have to avoid it in the first place. Yeah, seems like a Captain Obvious moment, but once the system is impacted, a sophisticated piece of malware is going to do all in its power to stay out of sight, including disabling common/popular AV products. I did see a lot of links about the Redirect Virus on AVG's community site: http://forums.avg.com/us-en/avg-forums-search You may already have run into information such as (http://www.pchell.com/support/scour_redirect.shtml), which indicates how insiduous this malware can be. The fact that it's a rootkit makes it somewhat problematic to deal with. Host-based protection needs to move away from the ubiquitous AV toolset. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market. On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Christopher Bodnar christopher_bod...@glic.com wrote: Just wondering if anyone else has had to deal with this one. Got hit with this on my home machine this week. I am by no means a security expert, so that may have been part of my problem. But was sort of surprised by the lack
Re: apple updating issue
Check that you're not blocking this somehow; Check your Firewall rules, Router config and content filter if you have it. Try to do an update outside your network (at home). If it works there, something on the local network is stopping you. For us, if something isn't reaching something else, it's usually our content filter doing its' job. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Laurence [mailto:laurence.chi...@jalapeno-bs.co.uk] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 02:39:28 -0800 Subject: apple updating issue Hi All I'm starting to see many instances of our Apple QuickTime software installs failing the updating process I have all of my machines set with the 'check for updates automatically' option unchecked as we have found it easier that way when in the QuickTime control panel applet, update tab; pressing the update button shows the error message 'A connection with Quick Time software server could not be established.' I'm seeing this on a number of client sites and across both Windows XP Pro SP3 and Windows Vista business SP2 is anybody else seeing this? if so what is the fix? regards Laurence ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: OT: Scour redirect virus?
What's your definition of scissors security ? http://www.dumbentia.com/pdflib/scissors.pdf yuk yuk yuk! --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Tom Yergeau [mailto:tyerg.itm...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 10:50:32 -0800 Subject: RE: OT: Scour redirect virus? What's your definition of scissors security ? Cutting the internet connection, or at least running a VM on each desktop that's used for all internet access and reset to a baseline snapshot at the end of each day. Thanks for the list of products, I'll check them out. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 12:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Scour redirect virus? Hi Tom, What's your definition of scissors security ? Solutions like Bit9 Parity, CoreTrace Bouncer, Faronics Anti-Executable http://www.faronics.com/products/anti-executable/standard/ , and Savant Protection are available today, and the cost per end-point is comparable to traditional AV solutions. There's also BitLocker from Microsoft. As with virtually all other technologies, increased implementations lead to improvements in cost and refinements in the feature set. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market. http://www.point2security.com/author.asp?section_id=2075 http://www.point2security.com/author.asp?section_id=2075doc_id=248849 doc_id=248849 On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Tom Yergeau tyerg.itm...@gmail.com wrote: Unless we use scissors security how can we avoid things that even the experts can't isolate the code for? This article a while back brought it all into focus for me. http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9231418/Elusive_TDL4_malware_variant_ infected_Fortune_500_companies_gov_t_agencies There are some promising products out there like Bromium, but that's for large environments, very new, and probably very expensive. Where does that leave the rest of us? From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 10:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Scour redirect virus? The thing about malware is that you really have to avoid it in the first place. Yeah, seems like a Captain Obvious moment, but once the system is impacted, a sophisticated piece of malware is going to do all in its power to stay out of sight, including disabling common/popular AV products. I did see a lot of links about the Redirect Virus on AVG's community site: http://forums.avg.com/us-en/avg-forums-search You may already have run into information such as (http://www.pchell.com/support/scour_redirect.shtml), which indicates how insiduous this malware can be. The fact that it's a rootkit makes it somewhat problematic to deal with. Host-based protection needs to move away from the ubiquitous AV toolset. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market. On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Christopher Bodnar christopher_bod...@glic.com wrote: Just wondering if anyone else has had to deal with this one. Got hit with this on my home machine this week. I am by no means a security expert, so that may have been part of my problem. But was sort of surprised by the lack of resources/info available out there from the major players (AVG, McAfee, Symantec, etc). I use AVG and it had no idea the machine was infected. and couldn't find any mention of it on their support site. Tried both TDSSKiller from Kaspersky and FixTDSS from Symantec. Neither of which worked. Finally gave in and tried ComboFix, which really looked like it was questionable, but resolved the problem for me. Luckily this was relatively harmless in the grand scheme of things. Just very annoying. Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture and Engineering Services Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.com The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to
RE: Why is it, in Notepad...
Oh, you did _not_ just bring up the Editor wars?! Sigh. I hope this list returns to useful posts before the end of the month... Sm:)e. BTW; pico and nano. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 15:17:35 -0800 Subject: RE: Why is it, in Notepad... Emacs FTW! vi sucks! edlin rules. :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Editor_war Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/ From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Subject: RE: Why is it, in Notepad... Vi for life! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: System Center 2012 Endpoint Protection
As of System Center 2012, only the cals cost. Management server is no extra. And that includes sql. Just curious: Did you install the System Center CM on a Windows Server 2008 R2 machine, or Windows Server 2012? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Anders Blomgren [mailto:chanks...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 17:06:14 -0800 Subject: Re: System Center 2012 Endpoint Protection As of System Center 2012, only the cals cost. Management server is no extra. And that includes sql. -Anders Sent from my iPhone On 21 sep 2012, at 18:02, Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.org wrote: Wow. We're looking for an inexpensive antivirus solution, and with our EES subscription, SCEP 2012 comes free. But the management side I haven't had a chance to look at yet. I'm not even sure if I have the licensing to run a SCCM server, or if I have to purchase said license. But it looks like I can install the client as a Stand alone and get much of the same benefit I was getting from a competing product... for free. Now I continue to look at SCCM and what it requires. 16 Gigs for only 200 computers? Ouch. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Anders Blomgren [mailto:chanks...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 01:21:13 -0800 Subject: Re: System Center 2012 Endpoint Protection Run it that way here, 200 managed computers. SCCM 2012 is the first version I'd even consider using for such a small environment. Still need 16GB ram though... -Anders On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 11:57 PM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: In a super small environment, can you get away with the app and sql server on the same host? They give it away free in OpenValue. jlc From: Brian Desmond [br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 3:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: System Center 2012 Endpoint Protection Same here - multiple happy customers. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132 -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 4:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: System Center 2012 Endpoint Protection It's a very good solution. I've got it deployed with several different clients and it gets positive reviews all 'way round. -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 5:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: System Center 2012 Endpoint Protection Hey Guys. I'm looking at System Center 2012 Endpoint Protection (What a mouthful). Anybody using this? Anybody like/dislike it compared to other solutions? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt
Re: System Center 2012 Endpoint Protection
Wow. We're looking for an inexpensive antivirus solution, and with our EES subscription, SCEP 2012 comes free. But the management side I haven't had a chance to look at yet. I'm not even sure if I have the licensing to run a SCCM server, or if I have to purchase said license. But it looks like I can install the client as a Stand alone and get much of the same benefit I was getting from a competing product... for free. Now I continue to look at SCCM and what it requires. 16 Gigs for only 200 computers? Ouch. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Anders Blomgren [mailto:chanks...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 01:21:13 -0800 Subject: Re: System Center 2012 Endpoint Protection Run it that way here, 200 managed computers. SCCM 2012 is the first version I'd even consider using for such a small environment. Still need 16GB ram though... -Anders On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 11:57 PM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: In a super small environment, can you get away with the app and sql server on the same host? They give it away free in OpenValue. jlc From: Brian Desmond [br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 3:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: System Center 2012 Endpoint Protection Same here - multiple happy customers. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132 -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 4:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: System Center 2012 Endpoint Protection It's a very good solution. I've got it deployed with several different clients and it gets positive reviews all 'way round. -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 5:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: System Center 2012 Endpoint Protection Hey Guys. I'm looking at System Center 2012 Endpoint Protection (What a mouthful). Anybody using this? Anybody like/dislike it compared to other solutions? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
SOLVED RE: Deploying Printers in Group Policy not working for non-admins
I finally figured it out. I figured that I'd share: I was sorting my labs AD Computers into OUs. I then assigned a blank group policy for the printers on that OU. Using the Printer Manager, I installed the printers and drivers as a TCP/IP printer on my print server. I then used the Deploy Printer option to configure the until now blank group policy. This was all working perfectly. I had not had any problems doing it this way. This installs the printers on the client machines as TCP/IP printers, so none of them are dependent on a print server. My mistake was that I forgot a crucial step in this kind of deployment process: I still had to share the printer from the print server. Doing this allowed the computers to install the necessary drivers from the print server. what I can't figure out is how the administrator accounts could see and use use the printers, but the non-admins could not. Is there a hidden administrative share that holds the drivers? Was Windows able to install local drivers each time? Anyways, as usual, something small and somewhat obvious was preventing it from working. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 09:24:52 -0800 Subject: RE: Deploying Printers in Group Policy not working for non-admins As student's are not admins, they don't have the option to install the printers. Especially as I'm trying to install them via IP. I'm about to install the printers via script, as they need printers working, with or without group policy. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Kelsey, John [mailto:jckel...@drmc.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 06:11:38 -0800 Subject: RE: Deploying Printers in Group Policy not working for non-admins What happens if the student tries to install the printer manually? Does it complete or does it bomb out? -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 11:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Deploying Printers in Group Policy not working for non-admins Here are some more oddities for this lab: 1) The printers are an HP Laserjet 4250 and a HP Color Laserjet 4700. We have other labs with the same model printers deployed from the same print server and this problem does not exist with them. 2) The printers show up if I log in as an administrator... but if I immediately log off, and log in as a generic student account, the printers are no longer there. Shouldn't the printers be installed already? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 05:22:56 -0800 Subject: Re: Deploying Printers in Group Policy not working for non-admins Too funny, I was just about to type up the exact same question. I ran into this same scenario last night. The only thing that I found different was between 2 different printers. In my case the printers are: Canon iR3245 HP Officejet 8600 So I deployed the iR3245 first via GPO using the Print Management method and none of the users received the mapping. But I could map the printer manually. So I finally decided to test using the 2nd printer, using the same method and the OfficeJet mapped successfully. I then went and published the iR3245 via GPO preferences, and that worked. The only thing I can think of is that for some reason its a driver issue, but I can't think of what that would be. Not sure if this is relavent, but this is a ThinClient environment. All Hyper-V hosts with RDS and clients are Wyse C10LE. All servers are Windows 2008 R2. Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture and Engineering Services Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.com The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.com From: Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.org To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: 08/30/2012 06:02 PM Subject:Deploying Printers in Group Policy not working for non-admins Good Afternoon. I'm deploying printers using Group Policy. We have Windows Server 20008 R2 Domain controllers and Windows 7 desktops. I have a new lab that I wanted to deploy the network printers. In this one lab, for some reason, Administrators see the printers. Non
Re: SOLVED RE: Deploying Printers in Group Policy not working for non-admins
Drivers would be available via the ADMIN$ share of the machine, I would expect. Okay, I'll take that answer... but then why wouldn't the printer be installed once the admin logged in? Why do the printers disappear afterwards? And why isn't there any good data about the failure in the event viewer? (Why, Microsoft? Why?) Thanks for the follow-up. Much appreciated. http://xkcd.com/979/ Ha! I'll admit that I've done some searching on the web for issues I've run into... and I found somebody who has simular issues... only to discover that it's my own post! Sm:)e. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 05:02:36 -0800 Subject: Re: SOLVED RE: Deploying Printers in Group Policy not working for non-admins Drivers would be available via the ADMIN$ share of the machine, I would expect. Thanks for the follow-up. Much appreciated. http://xkcd.com/979/ * * *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 3:52 AM, Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.orgwrote: I finally figured it out. I figured that I'd share: I was sorting my labs AD Computers into OUs. I then assigned a blank group policy for the printers on that OU. Using the Printer Manager, I installed the printers and drivers as a TCP/IP printer on my print server. I then used the Deploy Printer option to configure the until now blank group policy. This was all working perfectly. I had not had any problems doing it this way. This installs the printers on the client machines as TCP/IP printers, so none of them are dependent on a print server. My mistake was that I forgot a crucial step in this kind of deployment process: I still had to share the printer from the print server. Doing this allowed the computers to install the necessary drivers from the print server. what I can't figure out is how the administrator accounts could see and use use the printers, but the non-admins could not. Is there a hidden administrative share that holds the drivers? Was Windows able to install local drivers each time? Anyways, as usual, something small and somewhat obvious was preventing it from working. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 09:24:52 -0800 Subject: RE: Deploying Printers in Group Policy not working for non-admins As student's are not admins, they don't have the option to install the printers. Especially as I'm trying to install them via IP. I'm about to install the printers via script, as they need printers working, with or without group policy. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Kelsey, John [mailto:jckel...@drmc.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 06:11:38 -0800 Subject: RE: Deploying Printers in Group Policy not working for non-admins What happens if the student tries to install the printer manually? Does it complete or does it bomb out? -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 11:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Deploying Printers in Group Policy not working for non-admins Here are some more oddities for this lab: 1) The printers are an HP Laserjet 4250 and a HP Color Laserjet 4700. We have other labs with the same model printers deployed from the same print server and this problem does not exist with them. 2) The printers show up if I log in as an administrator... but if I immediately log off, and log in as a generic student account, the printers are no longer there. Shouldn't the printers be installed already? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 05:22:56 -0800 Subject: Re: Deploying Printers in Group Policy not working for non-admins Too funny, I was just about to type up the exact same question. I ran into this same scenario last night. The only thing that I found different was between 2 different printers. In my case the printers are: Canon iR3245 HP Officejet 8600 So I deployed the iR3245 first via GPO using the Print Management method and none of the users received the mapping. But I
Re: OT: Phone plan
My father went down the line of a refurbished iPhone 4 with the Straight Talk plan. Making the change to put it on the new carrier did not require me to unlock the phone. Thus far, he's been extremely happy with the service. He doesn't use heavy internet (say, Netflix) on Straight Talk, but he does use it for emails, iMessage texting and some web browsing. The guide we had to do the conversion for the phone noted the following: The official tag line is that the internet is unlimited. The unofficial line is that after about 100 megs or so, they will start rate limiting you. This wasn't a problem for my father's planned use of the phone. FYI --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 07:54:14 -0800 Subject: OT: Phone plan Anyone else see this? http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/04/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-for-t-mobile-299-without-contract/ Thinking about getting this for my daughter for the first month, then switching her over to the Straight talk plan. Seems like a good way to get the phone for $299. Don't thing the 100 minutes would be sufficient for her, and the $45/month straight talk plan is a better option then the other T-mobile plans ($50 and $60). Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture and Engineering Services Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.com The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.com - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Deploying Printers in Group Policy not working for non-admins
As student's are not admins, they don't have the option to install the printers. Especially as I'm trying to install them via IP. I'm about to install the printers via script, as they need printers working, with or without group policy. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Kelsey, John [mailto:jckel...@drmc.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 06:11:38 -0800 Subject: RE: Deploying Printers in Group Policy not working for non-admins What happens if the student tries to install the printer manually? Does it complete or does it bomb out? -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 11:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Deploying Printers in Group Policy not working for non-admins Here are some more oddities for this lab: 1) The printers are an HP Laserjet 4250 and a HP Color Laserjet 4700. We have other labs with the same model printers deployed from the same print server and this problem does not exist with them. 2) The printers show up if I log in as an administrator... but if I immediately log off, and log in as a generic student account, the printers are no longer there. Shouldn't the printers be installed already? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 05:22:56 -0800 Subject: Re: Deploying Printers in Group Policy not working for non-admins Too funny, I was just about to type up the exact same question. I ran into this same scenario last night. The only thing that I found different was between 2 different printers. In my case the printers are: Canon iR3245 HP Officejet 8600 So I deployed the iR3245 first via GPO using the Print Management method and none of the users received the mapping. But I could map the printer manually. So I finally decided to test using the 2nd printer, using the same method and the OfficeJet mapped successfully. I then went and published the iR3245 via GPO preferences, and that worked. The only thing I can think of is that for some reason its a driver issue, but I can't think of what that would be. Not sure if this is relavent, but this is a ThinClient environment. All Hyper-V hosts with RDS and clients are Wyse C10LE. All servers are Windows 2008 R2. Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture and Engineering Services Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.com The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.com From: Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.org To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: 08/30/2012 06:02 PM Subject:Deploying Printers in Group Policy not working for non-admins Good Afternoon. I'm deploying printers using Group Policy. We have Windows Server 20008 R2 Domain controllers and Windows 7 desktops. I have a new lab that I wanted to deploy the network printers. In this one lab, for some reason, Administrators see the printers. Non-admins do not. I am using the Print Management GUI to deploy the printers. I have them deployed via a Group Policy that is assigned to all computers in an OU, not users. The printers are being setup as TCP/IP printers and the drivers are being distributed by the print server. Now... why is this working in all of my labs that I have setup but this one? And why only Admins? Has anybody else run into this problem? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise
Re: Deploying Printers in Group Policy not working for non-admins
Here are some more oddities for this lab: 1) The printers are an HP Laserjet 4250 and a HP Color Laserjet 4700. We have other labs with the same model printers deployed from the same print server and this problem does not exist with them. 2) The printers show up if I log in as an administrator... but if I immediately log off, and log in as a generic student account, the printers are no longer there. Shouldn't the printers be installed already? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 05:22:56 -0800 Subject: Re: Deploying Printers in Group Policy not working for non-admins Too funny, I was just about to type up the exact same question. I ran into this same scenario last night. The only thing that I found different was between 2 different printers. In my case the printers are: Canon iR3245 HP Officejet 8600 So I deployed the iR3245 first via GPO using the Print Management method and none of the users received the mapping. But I could map the printer manually. So I finally decided to test using the 2nd printer, using the same method and the OfficeJet mapped successfully. I then went and published the iR3245 via GPO preferences, and that worked. The only thing I can think of is that for some reason its a driver issue, but I can't think of what that would be. Not sure if this is relavent, but this is a ThinClient environment. All Hyper-V hosts with RDS and clients are Wyse C10LE. All servers are Windows 2008 R2. Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture and Engineering Services Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.com The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.com From: Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.org To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: 08/30/2012 06:02 PM Subject:Deploying Printers in Group Policy not working for non-admins Good Afternoon. I'm deploying printers using Group Policy. We have Windows Server 20008 R2 Domain controllers and Windows 7 desktops. I have a new lab that I wanted to deploy the network printers. In this one lab, for some reason, Administrators see the printers. Non-admins do not. I am using the Print Management GUI to deploy the printers. I have them deployed via a Group Policy that is assigned to all computers in an OU, not users. The printers are being setup as TCP/IP printers and the drivers are being distributed by the print server. Now... why is this working in all of my labs that I have setup but this one? And why only Admins? Has anybody else run into this problem? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Deploying Printers in Group Policy not working for non-admins
Good Afternoon. I'm deploying printers using Group Policy. We have Windows Server 20008 R2 Domain controllers and Windows 7 desktops. I have a new lab that I wanted to deploy the network printers. In this one lab, for some reason, Administrators see the printers. Non-admins do not. I am using the Print Management GUI to deploy the printers. I have them deployed via a Group Policy that is assigned to all computers in an OU, not users. The printers are being setup as TCP/IP printers and the drivers are being distributed by the print server. Now... why is this working in all of my labs that I have setup but this one? And why only Admins? Has anybody else run into this problem? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Win8/WinSrv2012 RTM...
RTM, so all you TechNet people can get to it... But I'm still waiting for it to show up on my Volume Licensing Service Center page... If I remember what I read correctly, I'm going to be waiting a while longer... --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 11:14:26 -0800 Subject: Re: Win8/WinSrv2012 RTM... About half an hour after I started installing the CP..gr ---Blackberried -Original Message- From: Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 14:12:19 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Win8/WinSrv2012 RTM... You folks did see that these were released to manufacturing? http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2012/08/01/rumors-confirmed-windows-8-and-w indows-server-2012-release/ http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2012/08/01/when-can-i-get-my-grubby-hands-o n-windows-8-and-windows-server-2012/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: MSCHAP V2 completely broken
I don't follow the crypto world, so is there an alternative crypto for PPTP available? Just curious. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 08:20:39 -0800 Subject: MSCHAP V2 completely broken http://isc.sans.edu/diary/End+of+Days+for+MS-CHAPv2/13807 This affects both PPTP and WPA-Enterprise (if configured to use MSCHAP). PPTP has been known weak since 1999, and this just pounds the last nail in its coffin. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Active Directory and Group Policy inheritance
Greetings. Is it possible to block a single group policy from being inheritance, or is my only choice to block all inheritance at the OU level? I want one policy blocked (A software installation policy, so I don't think I can override it somehow) in a Sub-OU, but I want everything else through. Thanks. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Mountian Lion VPN issue
You probably won't find much help on this list for issues with MacOS X unless it is somehow directly related to a windows server... What are you using as your VPN on the server end? I used to be a big defender of Mac OS X on this list... Apple appeared to be making great strides in the enterprise features starting in 10.3 all the way to 10.6... but 10.7 (and now 10.8) are all reverting back to less-useful states for the enterprise desktop. Basically, they are slowly turning the desktops into iPads, and I don't like that. Eventually I would guess that they drop the entire desktop OS and run everything on iPads... And as this is the current trend, I can't recommend Mac OS X anymore. Sadly, Microsoft might be trying to do the same thing with Windows. (See: Windows 8 RT) Let's hope not. If you still need help, I recommend the Mac Enterprise mailing list: http://www.macenterprise.org/mailing-list --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Fred Sawyer [mailto:fsaw...@victuscapitalconsulting.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 08:36:16 -0700 Subject: Mountian Lion VPN issue We are doing some testing with Mountain Lion and have found that a Remote Access IPSec VPN that uses shared secret machine authentication works as it did in OSx10.7 but Remote Access IPSec VPN that uses certificate based machine authentication no longer functions. We've made no changes to the VPN config on the firewall and set up the OSx10.8 client the same way we did in OSx10.7. When looking at the client side logs we can see the vpn connection breaks down trying to establish phase 1 but I can't figure out why. Has anyone else run across this? Thanks, Fred Sawyer ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Re-cabling
Looks like Deepsurplus.com beats Monoprice.com as well, which impresses me a bit. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 07:31:07 -0700 Subject: Re: Re-cabling Thanks guys. Dave, deepsurplus.com is much cheaper than my normal vendor, cablestogo. Thanks for the info. Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com 6/20/2012 10:20 AM On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: What are your preferences? Cable color by rack, system, type, etc? It's just aesthetics but I'm looking for ideas. If you want it to look pretty, use the same color for each rack/switch. Otherwise that's more confusing than helpful. Categorizing by VLAN or type of traffic makes some sense. E.g., yellow is DMZ, blue is main LAN, green is SAN, etc. Using a rainbow spread to each rack makes some sense. Makes it easier to tell cables apart when you're hunting for or tracing a particular cable. There are some standards for cable sheath color coding, but the ones I'm aware of are all facility-wide in scope. Most of your in-datacenter cabling would be the same color under such schemes. So I wouldn't call those helpful for this. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Re-cabling
I don't know if that's still feasible for = gig. It uses all four pairs, so you'd only get 6 ports per connector. The cross-talk requirements are also much stricter, so it may flat-out violate spec. That doesn't mean some of us still don't send a Gig network over 4 pars of a Cat-5e or better 25-Pair. It's been known to happen. Sm:)e. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 10:23:27 -0700 Subject: Re: Re-cabling On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com wrote: Rather than pulling cable all the way down in to the racks, you might want to think about putting a 24 or 48 port panel in the top (back) of each rack and then running short patch cables from there. Then on the other end you can cross connect to the switch or whatever. Back in the days of = 100 meg, you could buy CAT5 cables and patch panels with 50-pin telco connectors. So you could then connect 12 ports on a patch panel using a single cable. This saved labor, cable space, and made things neater, as you only had to run one or two trunk cables to each rack. I don't know if that's still feasible for = gig. It uses all four pairs, so you'd only get 6 ports per connector. The cross-talk requirements are also much stricter, so it may flat-out violate spec. But even if one can't do the single connector method, you can buy cable assembles which bundle a bunch of 4-pair RJ-45 lines into a single outer sheath. That still might make cable management better. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Re-cabling
See this little guy, which I've used when I 'had to' make a ceiling drop for 6 computers in a shop somewhere: http://icc.com/products/products/6485-cat-5e-mobile-patch-box-6-port.aspx --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 11:23:24 -0700 Subject: Re: Re-cabling I don't know if that's still feasible for = gig. It uses all four pairs, so you'd only get 6 ports per connector. The cross-talk requirements are also much stricter, so it may flat-out violate spec. That doesn't mean some of us still don't send a Gig network over 4 pars of a Cat-5e or better 25-Pair. It's been known to happen. Sm:)e. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 10:23:27 -0700 Subject: Re: Re-cabling On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com wrote: Rather than pulling cable all the way down in to the racks, you might want to think about putting a 24 or 48 port panel in the top (back) of each rack and then running short patch cables from there. Then on the other end you can cross connect to the switch or whatever. Back in the days of = 100 meg, you could buy CAT5 cables and patch panels with 50-pin telco connectors. So you could then connect 12 ports on a patch panel using a single cable. This saved labor, cable space, and made things neater, as you only had to run one or two trunk cables to each rack. I don't know if that's still feasible for = gig. It uses all four pairs, so you'd only get 6 ports per connector. The cross-talk requirements are also much stricter, so it may flat-out violate spec. But even if one can't do the single connector method, you can buy cable assembles which bundle a bunch of 4-pair RJ-45 lines into a single outer sheath. That still might make cable management better. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Microsoft Surface
Good show, Microsoft. It was an excellent product launch event and PR. Some details are still missing. Mostly prices. The truly innovative features: 1. A super-thin Windows RT version, which competes directly with the iPad. 2. A slightly thicker Intel Windows 8 Pro version. I suspect this will be one of the best selling tablets in the enterprise. 3. The new covers that are also keyboards/touchpads... inspired. How well they wear is a question. 4. The kickstand. Yes, it's something you wish it didn't have to have attached to the device... but have you ever tried to use a tablet on a table without having it propped up somehow? Personally, I approve. Questions still to be answered: 1. Is Microsoft going to be the only seller of Windows 8 RT tablets? Did they just leave HP, Lenovo, Dell, etc, out to dry? 2. What's the battery life? No mention of this always makes me worry. 3. Vents on the Intel version. If it needs vents, it must get warm. 4. Price, price, price. The world needs to know. Not be disappointed when you let us know that the Pro version is $1000[1]. My workmate is very excited about the announcement. And if he knew what the price was, he would already be saving for it. Personally, if I wanted a laptop, i'll buy a laptop. If I want a tablet, I don't want to spend $500 for something roughly the same size as a netbook. That why I bought my HP Touchpad on firesale... the price was right. After using the 10 touchpad for almost a year, I now know that I don't want something that big... so the 7 tablets look better to me. And Android (using Cyanogenmod on my TP) does everything I need a tablet to do. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District [1] Note: This is my guess on the price of the Intel Windows 8 Pro version of Surface. - Original Message - From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 18:01:34 -0700 Subject: Microsoft Surface Is here: http://surface.com I had a chance to see the technology itself demoed back in 2010, and it was most awesome. And now, in mobile format. * * *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Free eBook: Introducing Windows Server 2012
Native reading format, vs PDF. (Resizable fonts, better graphical integration, etc) Buy it once, re-download it forever (the PDF could disappear. I do acknowledge that Amazon has pulled back eBooks before, too.) Better reading experience on e-ink readers. (Ever tried to read a PDF on a kindle?) Willingness to pay for a product, knowing a percentage of that goes back to the author. Those are just the good reasons that I could come up with. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 10:04:58 -0700 Subject: RE: Free eBook: Introducing Windows Server 2012 A couple other options, too, i.e, Kindle and paperback. http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2012/06/04/free-ebook-introducing-windows-s erver-2012/ Cheap for a book, don't you think? $0.99 for a Kindle version, and $8.00 with a prime membership for the paperback. The Kindle can read PDFs though.so I'm curious why anyone would opt for the $0.99 Kindle version. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 11:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Free eBook: Introducing Windows Server 2012 http://blogs.msdn.com/b/microsoft_press/archive/2012/06/04/free-ebook-introd ucing-windows-server-2012.aspx (From Paul Thurrott's winsupersite.com) Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://theessentialexchange.com/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
