Re: a replacement flash for my sigma 430ST - a pentax af500 or 360gz
On Thu, 3 Apr 2003 20:44:09 +0930, adphoto wrote: i like a lot of the features on the af500 such as multiple flash etc but i like the 360s high speed sync does the 360 have multiple flashes? I regularly use 2 AF360FGZ flashes with my MZ-S in wireless mode. It works fine. In wireless mode you loose the flash ready indication and the correct exposure indication, but it works well. You keep high speed sync, contrast control and all other features. You even get a modeling mode which is wonderful (and controllable from the camera). My one problem with the entire pentax wireless system may simply be a camera fault and I'll discuss it in a separate message. Leon http://www.bluering.org.au http://www.bluering.org.au/leon
MZ-S Pentax Function 10
Hi, I'm after a bit of clarification as to how Pentax Function 10 works on the MZ-S, before I send mine off for repair. PF 10 controls how the popup flash will behave when used in wireless mode. The manual says: ++ During wireless operation you can set the built in flash to function as a flash or wireless controller. Pentax Function No 10 Setting No [1] Sets the built in flash to operate as a flash. [2] Sets the built in flash to operate as a wireless flash controller. Memo If the built in flash is used as a wireless flash controller, the preflash emitted by the built in flash unit does not affect the exposure, only to transmit the exposure information to the wireless flash. ++ The problem is that I am getting reflections from the the popup flash when I have PF 10 set to 2, and I don't think this should be happening (and I know for sure the reflections are from the built in flash because I have one slide with a perfect reflection of 3 flashes reflected in the glass). For those who have played with wireless flash please let me know what you think. Leon http://www.bluering.org.au http://www.bluering.org.au/leon
Good price for a pentax 28mm f2.0 a or m version
Ok i have decided on a pentax 28mm f2.0 what would be a good price for each of the version i saw an m version go on ebay for $200 plus about 3 months ago is that about the price i will pay thanks
Re: Moving on!
And you have many friends here. Good luck, Tom. We'll look forward to your return to the list. Paul Stenquist T Rittenhouse wrote: Interesting only to my friends on the list. I guess you ain't one, so ignor the thread. To those who have wished me well, a big thanks. PS: the ME Super is going with me, does that make this on topic? Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Andreas Wirtz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 2:02 PM Subject: Re: Moving on! And what truck and Pentax have in common! Go wherever You want ! This is a place where childish americans are speaking about how to buy Pentax equipment without having money while their bombs are falling on innocent children! Andreas --- T Rittenhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, I will be unsubscribing again Saturday night for an indefinate period. Going north to drive a bit in a friend's truck. Don't know if it will result in a job for sure, but it will definately get me a reference. Anyone wanting to e-mail me while I am on the road should use the [EMAIL PROTECTED] address. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com
RE: Sigma EF430 Super?
However, all that said, if anyone will be able to do it, it will probably be Metz. Watch them for new adapters, etc. Len --- -Original Message- From: Roland Mabo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 12:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Sigma EF430 Super? * Peter Farkas wrote: any experience with the Sigma EF430 Super flash? Is it any good? What about light and build quality? Are there any compatibility problems between it and an MZ-S body? No Sigma flash is compatible with P-TTL mode, wireless flash sync and high-speed-flash sync, with Pentax bodies (MZ-S, MZ-6/ZX-L and *ist). None of the 3rd party flashes are compatible with Pentax new flash system and it's features. Best wishes, Roland _ Hitta rätt köpare på MSN Köp Sälj http://www.msn.se/koposalj
Re: Digital woe - tales of the unexpected
You might want to consider buying a small power inverter. It'll take a DC wave and turn it into a square wave (IIRC). You can get them in many sizes/shapes, and they basically just plug into the socket in your car, and then have a wall jack style plug on the other end into which you can plug whatever you want. IL Bill David Mann wrote: Steve Desjardins wrote: Q: Do they make an AC adapter for your digital that runs off the lighter socket in the car? That would make it a DC adaptor :) I've realized that an AC adaptor/charger that worked this way would be most useful. You can get them for cellphones, so why not cameras? Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ -- William Kane http://www.KaneScience.com IABT Advisory Board Member http://www.iabt.net Tinley Park High School 6111 W. 175th Street Tinley Park, IL 60477 V: 708/532-1900 ext 3909 http://www.bhsd228.com
Re: Moving on!
Not much, unless we are talking about P67. It would have been much more on topic if he were driving Honda Civic (with the aforementioned ME-Super). Good luck to you, Greywolf, keep the journal updates! Best, Mishka From: Andreas Wirtz Subject: Re: Moving on! -- And what truck and Pentax have in common!
Re: MZ-S Pentax Function 10
Leon, It seems that reflections off glass or some such are going to happen no matter which way you have the PF setting. I think a better way to think about it is that the popup will not contribute significantly to the illumination. Remember that the wireless system is using light from the flash to communicate, so the flash is firing, just not at full strength. For most subjects, the reflection of light from the popup is not going to be material. One thing you could try is to cover the popup with red cellophane (couple of layers) to weaken the flash even further or put a deflector in front of it to put the light upwards. Anyway, I have a feeling that the body is behaving correctly. The popup has to fire to tell the others to fire and then it has to fire again to tell the others to stop firing. The PF switch would just alter the intensity of the popup, not eliminate it. HTH, Bruce Friday, April 4, 2003, 12:04:07 AM, you wrote: LA Hi, LA I'm after a bit of clarification as to how Pentax Function 10 works on LA the MZ-S, before I send mine off for repair. LA PF 10 controls how the popup flash will behave when used in wireless LA mode. The manual says: LA ++ LA During wireless operation you can set the built in flash to function as LA a flash or wireless controller. LA Pentax Function No 10 LA Setting No LA [1] Sets the built in flash to operate as a flash. LA [2] Sets the built in flash to operate as a wireless flash controller. LA Memo LA If the built in flash is used as a wireless flash controller, the LA preflash emitted by the built in flash unit does not affect the LA exposure, only to transmit the exposure information to the wireless LA flash. LA ++ LA The problem is that I am getting reflections from the the popup flash LA when I have PF 10 set to 2, and I don't think this should be happening LA (and I know for sure the reflections are from the built in flash LA because I have one slide with a perfect reflection of 3 flashes LA reflected in the glass). For those who have played with wireless flash LA please let me know what you think. LA Leon LA http://www.bluering.org.au LA http://www.bluering.org.au/leon
Re: Moving on!
Hm, I'm driving a Citroën. I see Pentax as the Citroën of the camera world. :-) Best wishes, Roland From: Mike Ignatiev [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Moving on! Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 18:02:12 +0400 Not much, unless we are talking about P67. It would have been much more on topic if he were driving Honda Civic (with the aforementioned ME-Super). Good luck to you, Greywolf, keep the journal updates! Best, Mishka _ Hitta rätt på nätet med MSN Sök http://search.msn.se/
Re: Moving on!
Hi guys, I will be unsubscribing again Saturday night for an indefinate period. Going north to drive a bit in a friend's truck. Don't know if it will result in a job for sure, but it will definately get me a reference. Anyone wanting to e-mail me while I am on the road should use the [EMAIL PROTECTED] address. Ciao, Graywolf Have a nice trip north! I hope you get the job and take some great pics while there... Andre --
Re: Moving on!
Hm, I'm driving a Citroën. I see Pentax as the Citroën of the camera world. Best wishes, Roland Nikon the Mercedes, Canon the BMW? Then, we'll all waiting for a Citroën SM mk II... Andre --
Re: MZ-S Pentax Function 10
Hi Leon My experience with wireless flash is not with Pentax, but rather with Minolta. So you will have to decide whether my comments have any bearing on your situation. As I understand it the operation of the wireless is similiar. The communications involves your onboard flash having to flash at least twice. Once to start and another for the all stop with full TTL flash capability. The flash is not supposed to be a significant amount as to affect exposures as your manual also says. Minolta also has a ratio setting that allows the onboard flash to provide 1/3 of the required flash and the other external flash provides the rest. My gut feeling here is that you would be able to see a reflection in a mirror or a window even though you wouldn't see it in the exposure. I know you can see it with your eyes when it goes off. What I mean by this is suppose you plan to do a portrait of a person with the wireless external flash placed off to the side of a person with no reflectors to thus create a dark shadow side of the person even though the onboard flash would be aimed directly at the persons face. If the shadows occur in the proper place and exposure is correct your equipment is working correctly. I would make some more tests without mirrors or windows entering into the formula. If you get satisfactory results I think there is most likely nothing wrong with your equipment. Cheers Taz Hi, I'm after a bit of clarification as to how Pentax Function 10 works on the MZ-S, before I send mine off for repair. PF 10 controls how the popup flash will behave when used in wireless mode. The manual says: ++ During wireless operation you can set the built in flash to function as a flash or wireless controller. Pentax Function No 10 Setting No [1] Sets the built in flash to operate as a flash. [2] Sets the built in flash to operate as a wireless flash controller. Memo If the built in flash is used as a wireless flash controller, the preflash emitted by the built in flash unit does not affect the exposure, only to transmit the exposure information to the wireless flash. ++ The problem is that I am getting reflections from the the popup flash when I have PF 10 set to 2, and I don't think this should be happening (and I know for sure the reflections are from the built in flash because I have one slide with a perfect reflection of 3 flashes reflected in the glass). For those who have played with wireless flash please let me know what you think. Leon
RE: Digital Shutter lag
-Original Message- From: Taz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Heiko Hamann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 12:36 AM Subject: Re: Digital Shutter lag Hi zcaballero, on 04 Apr 03 you wrote in pentax.list: Do the pentax gigitals have fast working shutter? What about the new SLR? Will it have a fast shutter? I think most DSLRs are very usable for action photography. If you want a compact digicam, then try the Optio S. Beside its compactness it is the fastest PS digicam I've seen so far. Actually that is one of the most common defects of digitals including the DSLRS. The newest and most expensive ones on the market SUPPOSEDLY have worked through this problem, but I wonder to what degree and if your regular SLR will always have the advantage there. I heard one of the canons can do 8 frames/sec now. In order to do that it would seem it would have to be really fast. Most recent DLSR's do ok...they might be a smidgen slower then the film body they're based on, but basically the shutter lag isn't a problem. The 10D feels comparable to the MZ-S to me, more or less. The real problem comes when you outshoot the buffer capacity. tv
Re: MZ-S Pentax Function 10
One thing you could try is to cover the popup with red cellophane (couple of layers) to weaken the flash even further or put a deflector in front of it to put the light upwards. I know some have reported using a piece of already developed negative with nothing on it for this purpose with satisfactory results.
Re: Moving on!
From: Andre Langevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 09:31:19 -0500 Nikon the Mercedes, Canon the BMW? Then, we'll all waiting for a Citroën SM mk II... Hm, the Airdream might be a hint of great things to come. But isn't the Pluriel a bit like the *ist? Stylish, very compact, fun and with many functions? (Cab, cabriocoach, mini-truck). Best wishes, Roland _ Hitta rätt på nätet med MSN Sök http://search.msn.se/
For Sale: 70mm backs for Pentax 645 + viewfinder (fwd)
From the IR list, in case anyone is interested... -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 00:13:19 +0200 From: Willem-Jan Markerink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: For Sale: 70mm backs for Pentax 645 + viewfinder For Sale: - 2x 70mm back for Pentax 645-series cameras; accepts standard 70mm cartridges, filled with 15ft long rolls of 70mm perforated film. 90 exposures on one roll without changinga gift from heaven for all winter/skiing photographers[*];)) - 1 Viewfinder extension (designed for the 70mm back) Outside cosmetical condition of all items is mint, one back even appears mint/unused inside, the other shows very minor wear, probably not more than a dozen rolls. You won't find a better set on the used market. Backs are US$500 each, viewfinder US$150, buy all for US$900. Prices each are about 3/5 of BH's listings, combination is less than 1/2. Offers are welcome, but the first US$500/900 takes it;)) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [*] especially those involved with Kodak infrared filmeven though it can be cut down to 120/220, it still requires a darkload bagand that's no fun on a steep skislope:)) Also interesting, for those already owning Pentax 6x7 gear/lenses: there is an adapter to mount 6x7 lenses on 645 bodiesa nice solution to use the 6x7 (ED) tele lenses with 70mm and/or infrared -- Bye, Willem-Jan Markerink The desire to understand is sometimes far less intelligent than the inability to understand [EMAIL PROTECTED] [note: 'a-one' 'en-el'!] * *** ** * To remove yourself from this list, send: * * UNSUBSCRIBE INFRARED * * to * * [EMAIL PROTECTED]* ** * For the IR-FAQ, IR-Gallery and heaps of links: * * http://www.a1.nl/phomepag/markerink/mainpage.htm * **
RE: Digital Shutter lag
Cannot comment on the Canon or up coming Pentas DLSR Shutter speeds,just the D1 'cus i have one.I shoot mostly fast action stuff with it and it performs very well.The buffer in the camera is fairly big and i have never ran out of space if i'm blasting away lol Dave -Original Message- From: Taz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Heiko Hamann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 12:36 AM Subject: Re: Digital Shutter lag Hi zcaballero, on 04 Apr 03 you wrote in pentax.list: Do the pentax gigitals have fast working shutter? What about the new SLR? Will it have a fast shutter? I think most DSLRs are very usable for action photography. If you want a compact digicam, then try the Optio S. Beside its compactness it is the fastest PS digicam I've seen so far. Actually that is one of the most common defects of digitals including the DSLRS. The newest and most expensive ones on the market SUPPOSEDLY have worked through this problem, but I wonder to what degree and if your regular SLR will always have the advantage there. I heard one of the canons can do 8 frames/sec now. In order to do that it would seem it would have to be really fast. Most recent DLSR's do ok...they might be a smidgen slower then the film body they're based on, but basically the shutter lag isn't a problem. The 10D feels comparable to the MZ-S to me, more or less. The real problem comes when you outshoot the buffer capacity. tv
OT: Call For Beta Testers
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Is the list or digest down?
Hi; I haven't received a digest since 4/2. Is it down or is it me? (or is it Memorex?)
Re: Is the list or digest down?
The digest choked some time yesterday. I waved the chicken this morning and it should be back up and running soon. Doug list witch doc At 11:12 AM 4/4/03, throwing caution to the wind, Butch Black wrote: Hi; I haven't received a digest since 4/2. Is it down or is it me? (or is it Memorex?)
Re: Moving on!
Yep, dropped out of the US market years ago. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hm, I'm driving a Citroën. I see Pentax as the Citroën of the camera world. :-)
Re: Leaving the list for a while
Chris wrote: CB I'm trying to force myself to finish up a Master's thesis on _Dracula_, Would that be in fiction literature history or sociopathology? Yours seriously, Alin from Draculaland
Re: Moving on!
Oh God I hope not. At 04:09 PM 4/4/2003 +0200, you wrote: Hm, I'm driving a Citroën. I see Pentax as the Citroën of the camera world. :-) Best wishes, Roland From: Mike Ignatiev [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Moving on! Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 18:02:12 +0400 Not much, unless we are talking about P67. It would have been much more on topic if he were driving Honda Civic (with the aforementioned ME-Super). Good luck to you, Greywolf, keep the journal updates! Best, Mishka _ Hitta rätt på nätet med MSN Sök http://search.msn.se/ Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. --Groucho Marx
My first look at the 550 Optio
Hi all, Had the chance to play with the Optio 550 yesterday. Very nice camera: zoom is great, option dial is similar to the other Optios, but with the new features (panoramic assist, Manual, Tv and Av to start). The battery is larger than the RS cameras. It comes with a dissappointing 16 mb card, but card prices are going down. :) Focus is FAST and very little lag in making the picture. Lots of Optio features in a small package...not much bigger than the RS with 5x! Also took a look the the 33L. Nice, but on the low end. A little slow and no optical viewfinder. The screen does come with a hood though. Probably the nicest camera for the low end ($300 and under). I'd be happy to try out anything and answer any questions until more cameras become available. David --- David Spaulding Photographer Get 25MB, POP3, Spam Filtering with LYCOS MAIL PLUS for $19.95/year. http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plusref=lmtplus
Re: Moving on!
But Citroën is doing very well around the globe, PSA (Peugeot Citroen SA) is the fastest growing car maker in Europe. Citroën is the fastest growing brand in Sweden. (to find out more: http//www.citroen.com) But I thought more about things like distinctive styling and odd features, a flair of being different - introducing odd technology. Best wishes, Roland From: Bruce Rubenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 11:40:50 -0500 Yep, dropped out of the US market years ago. _ Lättare att hitta drömresan med MSN Resor http://www.msn.se/resor/
Re: My first look at the 550 Optio
David and others, I'd like to know what apertures are available in Av? Also, how many steps in manual focus? Servus, Alin David wrote: DRS Had the chance to play with the Optio 550 yesterday. Very nice DRS camera: zoom is great, option dial is similar to the other DRS Optios, but with the new features (panoramic assist, Manual, Tv DRS and Av to start). The battery is larger than the RS cameras. It DRS comes with a dissappointing 16 mb card, but card prices are going DRS down. :) DRS Focus is FAST and very little lag in making the picture. Lots of DRS Optio features in a small package...not much bigger than the RS DRS with 5x! DRS Also took a look the the 33L. Nice, but on the low end. A little DRS slow and no optical viewfinder. The screen does come with a hood DRS though. Probably the nicest camera for the low end ($300 and under). DRS I'd be happy to try out anything and answer any questions until DRS more cameras become available.
Re: Moving on!
Hello! We don't give a shit here. There are no French cars sold in this country. This country isn't your country. Somebody beam this guy some brains, so he can get the sawdust out of his head. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But Citroën is doing very well around the globe...
Re: My first look at the 550 Optio
Hi Alin, on 04 Apr 03 you wrote in pentax.list: I'd like to know what apertures are available in Av? Afaik it has 12 (!) aperture numbers. What I'm interested in is the following: A German brochure says that the 450/550 have a special night mode that reduces the noise (so it has to be something different than that of the other Optios). Can anyone confirm this? How does it work? I know that some Olympus digicams take a second picture directly after the night shot and subtract it to eliminate the noise. Cheers, Heiko
Re: Leaving the list for a while
Hi! Good luck on your thesis. Furthermore, if you are to have an oral defence of your thesis exam, good luck on this too g. --- Boris Liberman www.geocities.com/dunno57 www.photosig.com/viewuser.php?id=38625
Re: Moving on!
Har ! Brucey is wearing again the grouchy old lady dress ! ;-) cheers, caveman Bruce Rubenstein wrote: Hello! We don't give a shit here. There are no French cars sold in this country. This country isn't your country. Somebody beam this guy some brains, so he can get the sawdust out of his head.
Re: Digital woe - tales of the unexpected
On Wednesday, Apr 2, 2003, at 19:10 US/Pacific, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seriously, that is a bitch. Like you said, it's got nothing to do with digital per se, but I would've caught it with my MX or Spottie! vbg Sure it has something to do with digital. Digital cameras are the most dependent on batteries of all cameras. Even all-electronic film bodies have much longer battery lifetimes. With digital, you have to be aware of the status of the batteries much more than with film. Just a given. Of course, the fundamentals of the situation aren't all that different; a digital camera with dead or no batteries is approximately as useful as an MX or Spotmatic with no film or an unwound roll parked on exposure #37. -- David Barts Portland, OR
Re: Moving on!
Bruce, do you really have to be such a provincial dork? keith whaley Bruce Rubenstein wrote: Hello! We don't give a shit here. There are no French cars sold in this country. This country isn't your country. Somebody beam this guy some brains, so he can get the sawdust out of his head. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But Citroën is doing very well around the globe...
Re: Moving on!
Oh, come on. Something as big as a war intrudes on all aspects of your life. You have to admit, the war commands more interest than the majority of the obsessive trivia written in this newsgroup. Newsgroups are supposed to be about conversation, you can't demand to exclude topics that don't interest you. You don't have to read 'em if you don't want to. Andy Phillips - Original Message - From: Caveman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 10:26 PM Subject: Re: Moving on! Unless someone captured them on film, preferably with a Pentax camera, I'm not interested. At least not on this list. cheers, caveman Bruce Rubenstein wrote: Just remembered: the French are useless for anything other than burning down synagogues any way.
Re: Moving on!
Roland Mabo escribió: Dear Bruce, I responed to you via PDML and to my knowledge PDML is not only for U.S citizens. France is a fine country with a beautiful and pictoresque countryside, and the inhabitants are warm and friendly. I have no problems with the french, or people from other countries. I'm sorry that you have. Best wishes, Roland Roland, don't waste your politeness with Bruce Rubenstein. You'd better ignore him. He is nothing but a pathetic schizoid troublemaker. -- Carlos Royo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zaragoza (Aragon) - Spain --
Re: Moving on!
Newsgroups are supposed to be about conversation, you can't demand to exclude topics that don't interest you. But THIS mailing list is a PENTAX list, not anything else! We're here to discuss Pentax gear and photography, and not war nor political likes and dislikes. Lukasz
OT- PJ shots
Has anyone else been noticing the stills being shown on CNN from Iraq. Some really great photos coming out of there. Bill
Re: Moving on!
A.) This isn't a newsgroup. B.) We absolutely can ask that discussion be confined to the list's stated topic. We don't go to the politics list and demand to be able to discuss Pentax cameras. At 04:42 PM 4/4/03, throwing caution to the wind, Cycad wrote: Oh, come on. Something as big as a war intrudes on all aspects of your life. You have to admit, the war commands more interest than the majority of the obsessive trivia written in this newsgroup. Newsgroups are supposed to be about conversation, you can't demand to exclude topics that don't interest you. You don't have to read 'em if you don't want to. Andy Phillips
Re: Moving on!
- Original Message - From: Cycad Subject: Re: Moving on! Haven't a clue what woooinking hybrids are, though. Offspring of dogs and pigs. William Robb
Re: Moving on!
- Original Message - From: Caveman Subject: Re: Moving on! Unless someone captured them on film, preferably with a Pentax camera, I'm not interested. At least not on this list. Nor I. Bruce, please stop woooinking. Thanks William Robb cheers, caveman Bruce Rubenstein wrote: Just remembered: the French are useless for anything other than burning down synagogues any way.
Re: Moving on!
- Original Message - From: Cycad Subject: Re: Moving on! Oh, come on. Something as big as a war intrudes on all aspects of your life. It only has to intrude on the PDML because shit for brains don't have the decency to join email lists dedicated to that subject. I know, thats a weird statement for me to make. William Robb
Re: Moving on!
Mr. Phillips, meet Mr. Brewer. This mailing list exists because of Mr. Brewer. William Robb - Original Message - From: Doug Brewer Subject: Re: Moving on! A.) This isn't a newsgroup. B.) We absolutely can ask that discussion be confined to the list's stated topic. We don't go to the politics list and demand to be able to discuss Pentax cameras. At 04:42 PM 4/4/03, throwing caution to the wind, Cycad wrote: Oh, come on. Something as big as a war intrudes on all aspects of your life. You have to admit, the war commands more interest than the majority of the obsessive trivia written in this newsgroup. Newsgroups are supposed to be about conversation, you can't demand to exclude topics that don't interest you. You don't have to read 'em if you don't want to. Andy Phillips
OT Friday silliness (was Re: Moving on!)
I'm more interested in SARS. It looks like an idiot ate a raw rat in China and then took a plane to Toronto. And now people here are dying of rat disease. Cycad wrote: Oh, come on. Something as big as a war intrudes on all aspects of your life. You have to admit, the war commands more interest than the majority of the obsessive trivia written in this newsgroup.
RE: Moving on!
Amen Lukasz, and may this be the last message on this thread. I am personally looking to add a 28 mm f:2.0 to my collection for available light photography. Is there one that has similar optical characteristics to my beloved K28,f:3.5? I am not interested in the autofocus lenses. Cheers, - Andrew. -Original Message- From: Lukasz Kacperczyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: April 4, 2003 4:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Moving on! Newsgroups are supposed to be about conversation, you can't demand to exclude topics that don't interest you. But THIS mailing list is a PENTAX list, not anything else! We're here to discuss Pentax gear and photography, and not war nor political likes and dislikes. Lukasz
Re: OT- PJ shots
A lot of the shots look like single frames of a video sequence. I think the slide shows, that have links on the home page of the NY Times, are better. At least they have PJs with the troops, unlike the 91 war. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone else been noticing the stills being shown on CNN from Iraq. Some really great photos coming out of there. Bill
Re: Moving on!
I think that this thread is a perfect send off to Tom who never believed in limiting threads to photography. Let's all raise a glass of anti-freeze tainted, French wine to him. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A.) This isn't a newsgroup. B.) We absolutely can ask that discussion be confined to the list's stated topic. We don't go to the politics list and demand to be able to discuss Pentax cameras.
300mm f4: M* or A*
Hi, I'm looking for a telephoto to use for wildlife (mainly garden birds). I have a 2x converter and I've seen both the M* and A* versions of the 300mm f/4, at the same price (£300). Which is the better value? Between us, my family have pZ-1p, MZ-5n, MZ-M, ME super and I'm excited by the idea of the *ist D, having bought a Fuji S2 for work and enjoying the experience. Are both M and A lenses likely to be compatible with the *ist D? Also, will the 300mm f/4 lenses work with the Pentax AF 1.7x converter? Andy Phillips
Re: OT- PJ shots
- Original Message - From: Bruce Rubenstein Subject: Re: OT- PJ shots At least they have PJs with the troops, Apparently, the imbedded journalists are very quickly succumbing to Patty Hearst syndrome. This is why CNN is sounding like a propaganda machine. William Robb
Re: Moving on!
- Original Message - From: Bruce Rubenstein Subject: Re: Moving on! I think that this thread is a perfect send off to Tom who never believed in limiting threads to photography. Let's all raise a glass of anti-freeze tainted, French wine to him. Bruce, it was the Germans who were doing that. The French were putting ox blood in theirs. William Robb
Re: Moving on!
On Fri, 4 Apr 2003, William Robb wrote: Bruce, it was the Germans who were doing that. The French were putting ox blood in theirs. One more reason to stick to gin martinis. Well, two more reasons... -- http://www.infotainment.org - more fun than a poke in your eye. http://www.eighteenpercent.com- photography and portfolio.
Re: Moving on!
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/international/AP-War-Reconstruction.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just remembered: BR is useless for anything other than calling names... Andre
Re: Moving on!
Actually, it was Austria that put anti-freeze in the wine. At least the wine with ox-blood could still be described as 'organic'! Now can I divert your attention to my new thread on the M* and A* 300mm f/4 lenses? Thanks, Andy - Andy Phillips - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 11:19 PM Subject: Re: Moving on! - Original Message - From: Bruce Rubenstein Subject: Re: Moving on! I think that this thread is a perfect send off to Tom who never believed in limiting threads to photography. Let's all raise a glass of anti-freeze tainted, French wine to him. Bruce, it was the Germans who were doing that. The French were putting ox blood in theirs. William Robb
Re: Moving on!
Exclude, perhaps not. However, you could change the subject line so that the war topics are easier to skip. This line started as a message about Tom going on the road. Ed From: Cycad [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups are supposed to be about conversation, you can't demand to exclude topics that don't interest you. You don't have to read 'em if you don't want to. Andy Phillips _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: 300mm f4: M* or A*
I think the 'A' is the safer bet since the *istD might not have the aperture coupling mechamism. Or you might wait for the F/FA*300/4.5 on eBay. The prices of these lenses have come down quite a bit lately. regards, Alan Chan I'm looking for a telephoto to use for wildlife (mainly garden birds). I have a 2x converter and I've seen both the M* and A* versions of the 300mm f/4, at the same price (£300). Which is the better value? Between us, my family have pZ-1p, MZ-5n, MZ-M, ME super and I'm excited by the idea of the *ist D, having bought a Fuji S2 for work and enjoying the experience. Are both M and A lenses likely to be compatible with the *ist D? Also, will the 300mm f/4 lenses work with the Pentax AF 1.7x converter? Andy Phillips _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
Re: Moving on!
Some of us may have misjudged you as well, Lasse. That kind of comment in unwelcome no matter who it comes from. Back to Pentax photography, please.
Re: OT- PJ shots
I have to agree with you - as a matter of fact, I've seen a lot of shots from all the various new agencies that make me say, Man, I wish I'd taken that! Has anyone else been noticing the stills being shown on CNN from Iraq. Some really great photos coming out of there. Bill
RE: OT- PJ shots
Embedded PJs may have enought time to compose the shots. May be using tripods too. Ramesh -Original Message- From: Treena [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 6:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT- PJ shots I have to agree with you - as a matter of fact, I've seen a lot of shots from all the various new agencies that make me say, Man, I wish I'd taken that! Has anyone else been noticing the stills being shown on CNN from Iraq. Some really great photos coming out of there. Bill
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I have a number of items for sale. I have a big vet bill to pay and they gotta go. M 28mm f3.5 M 50mm f1.4 M 50mm f1.7 MX Damaged and may be only good for parts. It works, but the shutter release broke off! Traceflex (Diana style camera) Contact me off pdml and I will supply photos, descriptions and a price. I don't have a photo of the MX, but that can be arranged and in the meantime, I can give a better description of the problem. I may have more items later. Jim
Re: Moving on!
- Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 1:05 AM Subject: Re: Moving on! Some of us may have misjudged you as well, Lasse. That kind of comment in unwelcome no matter who it comes from. Back to Pentax photography, please. Which comment are you referring to? Bruce's repeated poitical attack on and belittleling of the French on this list, or my description of what it amounts to - a typical American moronism? In case you missed it, I didn't bring the matter up, I objected to it. So why don't you have the decency and the guts to first direct yourself to the instigator of this thread of depreciation of another people. Lasse
Re: Mark Roberts in Toronto
Brendan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark great to meet you and you'd better make sure that 43mm and MZ-S makes it back in one piece. I made it in one piece but thoroughly knackered. Got three hours sleep and thought I was feeling fine. Then around 4:30 this afternoon I lay down and was out like a light. Getting up to speed again now. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Mark Roberts in Toronto
David Chang-Sang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes Mark, very nice to meet you. Hope the drive back wasn't too treacherous. And ya.. I retract my previous statements about the MZ-S from an ergonomic standpoint. It's a nice camera to hold portrait or landscape wise.. and that limited... ah... I may have to buy more pentax gear :) Try to make it to Grandfather Mountain - there's always lots of interesting gear to play with. Perhaps even Cesar and the snakeskin LXs! BTW: At the Toronto PDBL pub meet last night we continued the tradition of making fun of Cesar even though I was the only one there who's ever met him ;-) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
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http://www.photo.net/equipment/beaters/ The good old faithful Pentax seems to be in good company there. cheers, caveman ;-)
Re: 300mm f4: M* or A*
On Fri, 4 Apr 2003 23:15:31 +0100, you wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a telephoto to use for wildlife (mainly garden birds). I have a 2x converter and I've seen both the M* and A* versions of the 300mm f/4, at the same price (£300). Which is the better value? Between us, my family have pZ-1p, MZ-5n, MZ-M, ME super and I'm excited by the idea of the *ist D, having bought a Fuji S2 for work and enjoying the experience. Are both M and A lenses likely to be compatible with the *ist D? Also, will the 300mm f/4 lenses work with the Pentax AF 1.7x converter? Andy Phillips The A* is the better value between the two mentioned above, just because of the A setting. They are the same lens except for the A setting. As for the AF Adapter, I never could get my M*300/4 to autofocus with the AF Adapter. But it worked okay with the Vivitar 2x Macro Focusing TC. For probably less than £300, the Sigma 300/4 APO Macro is worth a look. It has a lot going for it, including AF, good optics, a decent tripod collar, and the ability to focus very close. It does not report correct apertures with the Super Program but that's no big deal since it meters okay anyway. And if you can find an F* 300/4.5 for a good price, it is a very fine lens. Any of these lenses will degrade a lot with a 2x TC. But even worse could be the blur from camera shake, especially since it is often just bad enough to prevent a really sharp photo, but not bad enough to look like camera shake. A tripod collar helps reduce the shakes somewhat. -- John Mustarde www.photolin.com
Re: OT: Happy Cheese Weasel Day
Back in Wisconsin we eradicated the Cheese Weasel decades ago. Just cross the Cheddar Curtain for the best in cheese, free of weasel damage. Collin * Never give up, never surrender! --- Yes, you should watch Galaxy Quest.
Re: Moving on!
I apologise, Doug. You were right. grin Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto
Re: 300mm f4: M* or A*
On Fri, 4 Apr 2003 23:15:31 +0100, Cycad wrote: [...] I've seen both the M* and A* versions of the 300mm f/4, at the same price (300). Which is the better value? I can't speak to those lenses, since I haven't used them. I did notice that KEH (http://www.keh.com/) has an FA 300/4.5 in BGN (bargain) condition for only $275! I've bought a number of lenses in BGN condition from them, and only on one has there been any visible degradation, and that was on the hood, not the lens. Also, will the 300mm f/4 lenses work with the Pentax AF 1.7x converter? Well, I can say for sure that the A 200/4 works with it. At f/4, though, the AF isn't as fast or as accurate as it is with a faster lens. With my Tamron 90/2.5 and the 1.7 it's good, and the 1.7 with an A 50/1.4 is downright snappy. Of course, it should be quicker and more accurate on a shorter focal length lens. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
Re: Mark Roberts in Toronto
You need a vacation --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brendan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark great to meet you and you'd better make sure that 43mm and MZ-S makes it back in one piece. I made it in one piece but thoroughly knackered. Got three hours sleep and thought I was feeling fine. Then around 4:30 this afternoon I lay down and was out like a light. Getting up to speed again now. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: OT- PJ shots
Not. Dial the ASA of your DSLR up to 1600 or 3200. Tripods haven't been used for conflict photography since Matthew Brady. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: May be using tripods too.
Re: Moving on!
So you object to Bruce belittling the French, but you think it's okay for you to belittle Americans. What an interesting double standard you have. At 2:49 AM +02004/5/03, Lasse Karlsson wrote, or at least typed: - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 1:05 AM Subject: Re: Moving on! Some of us may have misjudged you as well, Lasse. That kind of comment in unwelcome no matter who it comes from. Back to Pentax photography, please. Which comment are you referring to? Bruce's repeated poitical attack on and belittleling of the French on this list, or my description of what it amounts to - a typical American moronism? In case you missed it, I didn't bring the matter up, I objected to it. So why don't you have the decency and the guts to first direct yourself to the instigator of this thread of depreciation of another people. Lasse -- Douglas Forrest Brewer Ashwood Lake Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alphoto.com
