Re: PESO: Ferry Emmalisa
On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:38 +1000, p...@philnortheast.com wrote: One of Hobarts's older harbor ferries heading to the dock. K10D Vivitar Series 1 35-85 f2.8 Varifocal lens. This is one of their Classic Series 1 lens from the 1970s. This one is screw mount but works fine on Av setting on Pentax DSLRs. http://philnortheast.com/aviewfinderdarkly/general/potw/Emmalisa.htm Very colourful with an interesting reflection. Great to see an old ferry still earning its keep! Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - mmm... Fastmail... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Peek into the Valley
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 16:14 -0700, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: View of the entrance to Yosemite Valley - the Merced River is winding along and you can see Bridal Veil Falls in the distance. Pentax K-x, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 55mm ISO 1600, 1/2500 sec @ f/10 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/imgp6421-1.htm That's a great photo. I think the central location of the river works well here. The silvery colour of the river is especially effective. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - IMAP accessible web-mail -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Asymetrical Finch
ever thought of sending to a birding magasine for their guess what's this bird competition ? fun . dominique Le 24/06/10 21:58, Jack Davis a écrit : Thank you, Ecke! Bit of whimsy. Jack --- On Thu, 6/24/10, eckinatoreckina...@gmail.com wrote: From: eckinatoreckina...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO: Asymetrical Finch To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, June 24, 2010, 12:25 PM Indeed. A nice change of perspective. Hey you, sort out your coattails! Thanks for sharing Ecke 2010/6/24 Jack Davisjdavi...@yahoo.com: Plinking from the patio chaise again. They always seem so fastidiously proper and together, but this made me grin. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: so how do you tell Google their maps have a town in thewrongplace?
2010/6/25 drd1...@gmail.com: This has the potential to be the mother lodi of all pun threads. I don't give any credence to that theory. yeah. It's just a lodi of crap. c'mon everyone, unlodi... lodi dodi we likes to podi we just drop puns wen don't bother nobodi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D
2010/6/25 drd1...@gmail.com: Yeah, but Congress would still base national policy on it. OK let's give these figures to BP then... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso - another stab at fireflies
2010/6/25 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: Thanks Frank. Grace has told me that they are indeed fairies. Try believing then =) They are in their very own way. Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Fascinating APOD today
Go take a look http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: World Cup
Pozdravlyayu! ;-) On 6/24/2010 7:50 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Chvála Bohu !Three Cheers for the Red, White and Blue! My Slovak brothers upset the mighty Italians! Dan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - sailing
On 6/22/2010 4:48 PM, Cotty wrote: Here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9teCclRLFfg :-) Apparently you're very sea-healthy person, sir ;-). Well done indeed. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Don't touch my flowers
Thanks everyone for viewing and commenting. Inspired by your comments I uploaded #2 to 1x.com which was promptly rejected with silly comments. I have now deleted my 1x.com account and feel much better now :) PS mr Rockwell is a honorary member of 1x! Toine On 21 June 2010 21:06, Toine to...@repiuk.nl wrote: While trying to capture some local flora and avoiding local ticks I felt watched. The lady wasn't that attractive when I tried talking to her. http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/143-dont-touch-my-flowers Toine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: so how do you tell Google their maps have a town in the wrong place?
I understand that some mapmakers put errors in their maps on purpose in order to tell if someone steals their mAps. I have no idea if google does this. SAm Sent from my iPhone On Jun 25, 2010, at 12:13 AM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: I have reported an error to Google twice a year for three years running, receiving a condescending thank you, Someone will be getting in touch with you soon if they have any questions. It is still in error - no changes have been made. Because they have a road segment missing, they route you on a long circuitous direction to get to the entrance of a county park that is only 150 feet from the end that they show. Look at the aerial (satellite) view and it is totally obvious where the road goes, but their map view does not show it. Sent them screen shots each time. Total corporate BS. On Jun 24, 2010, at 18:37 , Ann Sanfedele wrote: Thanks to all for the replies Don't know why I didn't notice the report a problem thing -- wait yes I do -- it's TINY... :-) I'm hopping right to it ann Joseph McAllister Lots of gear, not much time http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Zion Watchman
Thanks for generous comment, Frank! Jack --- On Thu, 6/24/10, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO: Zion Watchman To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, June 24, 2010, 7:31 PM On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Less dramatic lighting, but more National Park worthy Zion shot. I'll be back and make the effort again one day. Jack ME Super, Pentax 28mm (f/2.8 I think), Ectar 25 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=522 Love the colours. Another winner, Jack! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D
Hey, let's not spill the beans. On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 5:06 AM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/6/25 drd1...@gmail.com: Yeah, but Congress would still base national policy on it. OK let's give these figures to BP then... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Asymetrical Finch
Thanks for comment and suggestion. The color would be a strong clue. ;) Jack --- On Fri, 6/25/10, Madame RD romd...@orange.fr wrote: From: Madame RD romd...@orange.fr Subject: Re: PESO: Asymetrical Finch To: pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, June 25, 2010, 1:59 AM ever thought of sending to a birding magasine for their guess what's this bird competition ? fun . dominique Le 24/06/10 21:58, Jack Davis a écrit : Thank you, Ecke! Bit of whimsy. Jack --- On Thu, 6/24/10, eckinatoreckina...@gmail.com wrote: From: eckinatoreckina...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO: Asymetrical Finch To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, June 24, 2010, 12:25 PM Indeed. A nice change of perspective. Hey you, sort out your coattails! Thanks for sharing Ecke 2010/6/24 Jack Davisjdavi...@yahoo.com: Plinking from the patio chaise again. They always seem so fastidiously proper and together, but this made me grin. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: World Cup
Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Chvála Bohu !Three Cheers for the Red, White and Blue! My Slovak brothers upset the mighty Italians! Sure a well-deserved drive out! Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
T mount lens adapters - a question.
The great benefit of sticking with Pentax for me has been the continued use of M42 screw thread lenses. I use them with a small Pentax K ring to M42 thread in both my film and digital SLRs. I've recently acquired for a very small sum a 200mm M42 lens that has a T mount attached to it. As it still has a screw thread, it works perfectly with the usual mount. Is the real purpose of this mount so that you can fit a K mount to it as a permanent fixture, and then use it as you would any other K mount lens? Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: T mount lens adapters - a question.
M42 thread isn't the same as Tmount M42 is 42x1.0 and Tmount 42x0.75. If you apply some force a Tmount adapter fill fit on a M42 lens. You won't get infinity focus with this combination. Tmount are made for special lenses and other things like microscope and telescope adapters. If your 200mm does focus at infinity it's not M42 but tmount on the lens Toine On 25 June 2010 14:57, Malcolm Smith malcolmsmi...@btinternet.com wrote: The great benefit of sticking with Pentax for me has been the continued use of M42 screw thread lenses. I use them with a small Pentax K ring to M42 thread in both my film and digital SLRs. I've recently acquired for a very small sum a 200mm M42 lens that has a T mount attached to it. As it still has a screw thread, it works perfectly with the usual mount. Is the real purpose of this mount so that you can fit a K mount to it as a permanent fixture, and then use it as you would any other K mount lens? Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: T mount lens adapters - a question.
Thanks Toine, M42 thread isn't the same as Tmount M42 is 42x1.0 and Tmount 42x0.75. If you apply some force a Tmount adapter fill fit on a M42 lens. You won't get infinity focus with this combination. Tmount are made for special lenses and other things like microscope and telescope adapters. If your 200mm does focus at infinity it's not M42 but tmount on the lens I've not put it up to the camera yet, but just put the adapter ring on the mount and it spun on very easily. I think I will just take this mount off then, as I have no microscope or other special use. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D
On Jun 24, 2010, at 6:40 PM, P N Stenquist wrote: On Jun 24, 2010, at 6:04 PM, Eric Weir wrote: There's a K20D with a DA 28-55 DA lens for sale on eBay. Is a shutter count of 26000 high? I'd say that's about normal for a K20D. Thanks to all who responded with information, statistics, and cautions about the statistics. Sincerely -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
*ist DL?
On Jun 23, 2010, at 2:21 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds w/smc Pentax M 40mm f2.8. This won't go on forever. There's a *ist DL with 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 on eBay and the seller's here in Atlanta. I'm interested because the camera is small, the cost is low, and the cool low light image that started the Praying at St. Michaels thread was made with a *ist Ds. Also because I'm just getting my feet wet again in photography and am not sure how much time, money, etc., I'm going to end up investing in it. My questions: What's the difference between a *1st Ds and a *1st DL? Might this be a reasonable investment for me given my circumstances and needs? What would a reasonable price for this machine? [I've asked the buyer if he has a buy now price. In response he's asking what my range would be.] Again, I promise this won't go on forever. Thanks, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
peso - young Pentxian
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4729565284/ Comments welcome! --Sasha -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso - young Pentxian
Terrific! Jack --- On Fri, 6/25/10, Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com wrote: From: Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com Subject: peso - young Pentxian To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, June 25, 2010, 6:34 AM http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4729565284/ Comments welcome! --Sasha -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: *ist DL?
taken from letsgodigital (excerpts) Pentax *ist DL digital camera review : [...] larger monitor on the Pentax *ist DL which will be available as a cheaper alternative for the *ist DS. Light weight and difference in price is interesting, some 150 euros. This low price makes the Pentax *ist DL the cheapest digital reflex camera for now (August 2005). And the smallest one [...] also lost some weight compared to the *ist DS. This loss of weight is probably due to replacing the prism for mirrors. Normally the prism is situated inside the viewfinder of a reflex camera, but in the *ist DL digital SLR the light is being diverted to the ocular through mirrors. [...] - Auto focus system [...] *ist DL uses a 3-point auto focus where as the *ist DS uses an 11-point auto focus. Also the sensor has become one step less sensitive, which won't get noticed much in practise. The internal buffer has decreased; it's capable of containing a maximum of five images. More items have been improved. The most important one is the monitor on the back of the camera. Pentax *ist DS users couldn't complain about the 2-inch sized one; let alone *ist DL users. The Pentax *istDL features a giant 2.5-inch sized monitor. [...] *ist DL continues with the familiar concept, a compact camera particularly aiming at the beginning photographer. Mixed batch I'd say... I know when I was choosing a starkist for its IR abilities (which I have yet to buy) I crossed out the DL first. HTH Ecke 2010/6/25 Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net: On Jun 23, 2010, at 2:21 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds w/smc Pentax M 40mm f2.8. This won't go on forever. There's a *ist DL with 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 on eBay and the seller's here in Atlanta. I'm interested because the camera is small, the cost is low, and the cool low light image that started the Praying at St. Michaels thread was made with a *ist Ds. Also because I'm just getting my feet wet again in photography and am not sure how much time, money, etc., I'm going to end up investing in it. My questions: What's the difference between a *1st Ds and a *1st DL? Might this be a reasonable investment for me given my circumstances and needs? What would a reasonable price for this machine? [I've asked the buyer if he has a buy now price. In response he's asking what my range would be.] Again, I promise this won't go on forever. Thanks, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: *ist DL?
On Jun 25, 2010, at 9:54 AM, eckinator wrote: Mixed batch I'd say... Thanks. I see the difference, now. Makes me a bit hesitant. There is a *ist DS2 that was released after the **1st DL that has the larger LCD. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: *ist DL?
Eric, Check with the bible - Boz's site. http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/bodies/ist_D/index.html I kept my *ist DS camera as I like how it works with Pentax flashes. The main disadvantages of the DL or DS over the K10 are 1) smaller sensor 6 Meg vs 10, and you can notice the difference. 2) smaller viewing screen, no big problem. 3) smaller camera if you have big hands - I like the smaller size! 4) also the DL has some crippled features in the buffer, continueous shooting, and flash. 5) once you know to shoot flash at ISO 200, the old Pentax TTL flashes work with the DS or DS2. They provide a cheap alternative to the new Pentax P-TTL flashes. I prefer the *ist DS or DS2 to the DL, and they are a cheap way to try digital. The K-10 will get you more detail with a 10 Meg sensor. It will add shake reduction, which really does work! And gets you a bigger screen on the back in a bigger camera body. You should also recognize that you will need some computer horsepower, storage, and software. I started with Photoshop Elements to process and organize my pictures. And added a portable hard drive to store/backup the pictures. You'll find it's cheap and easy to save nearly everything you shoot, easier than trying to weed out the maybe's. Regrds, Bob S. On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 8:19 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: On Jun 23, 2010, at 2:21 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds w/smc Pentax M 40mm f2.8. This won't go on forever. There's a *ist DL with 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 on eBay and the seller's here in Atlanta. I'm interested because the camera is small, the cost is low, and the cool low light image that started the Praying at St. Michaels thread was made with a *ist Ds. Also because I'm just getting my feet wet again in photography and am not sure how much time, money, etc., I'm going to end up investing in it. My questions: What's the difference between a *1st Ds and a *1st DL? Might this be a reasonable investment for me given my circumstances and needs? What would a reasonable price for this machine? [I've asked the buyer if he has a buy now price. In response he's asking what my range would be.] Again, I promise this won't go on forever. Thanks, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: *ist DL?
DS2 has a larger LCD and some updated software over the DS. Pentax will let you update the software on the DS to that of the DS2. Otherwise, DS and DS2 are identical and DL or DL2 are the weaker siblings. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: On Jun 25, 2010, at 9:54 AM, eckinator wrote: Mixed batch I'd say... Thanks. I see the difference, now. Makes me a bit hesitant. There is a *ist DS2 that was released after the **1st DL that has the larger LCD. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: *ist DL?
On Jun 25, 2010, at 10:36 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Check with the bible - Boz's site. http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/bodies/ist_D/index.html Thanks, Bob. Didn't know about this. I prefer the *ist DS or DS2 to the DL, and they are a cheap way to try digital. Yes, I think it'll be something from the *ist D series, and with the information I'm getting here and elsewhere, I'm definitely leaning toward DS or DS2. They seem to be rare in the used market, though. You should also recognize that you will need some computer horsepower, storage, and software. I started with Photoshop Elements to process and organize my pictures. And added a portable hard drive to store/backup the pictures. You'll find it's cheap and easy to save nearly everything you shoot, easier than trying to weed out the maybe's. I have a high-end MacBook, the one just before the solid aluminum bodies came out; a 500 GB Western Digital USB drive; and Photoshop Elements. The camera's the missing element -- a digital camera, that is. Thanks much, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Knight and Fair Maiden
Thanks, Frank and Rick. Yes, everyone enjoyed the mascots. The baseball team's mascot is Sparky, a large dog with a mustache just like that of the team's manager, Sparky Lyle, former relief pitcher for the NY Yankees. Dan On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 10:26 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Friday night our Rotary Club visited the local minor league baseball park. Also there was the Scarlet Knight, the mascot of the sports teams of Rutgers, the State University of New Jersey. Here is the knight and one of his many fans: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11157130 Comments, Suggestions, Criticisms, Advice and Abuse all Welcome. Har! What a fun photo! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Fascinating APOD today
That's a great image. Thanks for calling our attention to it. Dan On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 5:19 AM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: Go take a look http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: *ist DL?
No software update, a DS running firmware 2.x has the same software as a DS2. Slightly faster card writes and a larger LCD are the only differences between the DS and DS2 and the write speed difference is measurable but unnoticeable (it only shows up in testing). -Adam On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: DS2 has a larger LCD and some updated software over the DS. Pentax will let you update the software on the DS to that of the DS2. Otherwise, DS and DS2 are identical and DL or DL2 are the weaker siblings. Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: so how do you tell Google their maps have a town in the wrong place?
eckinator wrote: could it be a mix-up with Lodi Township, Athens County, Ohio? would that fit your description? Entirely possible. Ohio has a LOT of double place names like Lodi and Lodi Township. I never knew of so many townships as happen in Ohio (my old home state...) keith whaley -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: so how do you tell Google their maps have a town in the wrong place?
On 2010-06-25 06:03 , Sam wrote: I understand that some mapmakers put errors in their maps on purpose in order to tell if someone steals their mAps. I have no idea if google does this. i doubt google does, it buys map data from 3rd parties, so they might -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
best budget MF 100mm macro
i've been doing a lot of macro with with my 16-45, and enjoying it a lot, but also getting tired of crawling around on the ground; i've realized a 100mm (or longer) macro could save my back a bit of wear; i'm fine with manual focus, but would prefer aperture control (green button slows me down a lot), so what would people recommend as a real value in this category (sub-$100 on a good craig's list day)? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: so how do you tell Google their maps have a town in the wrong place?
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 12:32 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: i doubt google does, it buys map data from 3rd parties, so they might They used to buy map data from TeleAtlas (owned by TomTom, and I think they dropped the TeleAtlas name, as of today!). Now Google maintains their own map data. Since then, the response time to problem reports has improved tremendously for me. My Google problem reports have been addressed within a week or two, whereas I still have open TeleAtlas problem reports dating back to 12/2008. (We have determined that your report remains a problem in the 2010.06 release of Tele Atlas Map data.) Also, when Google dropped TeleAtlas, my correct home address started working. I had to fudge it to an incorrect town name to get it to work with TeleAtlas. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: *ist DL?
Hello Eric, You seem to be bouncing around between different models. Maybe you could tell us better what your target price is so that we could hone in on models and deals that would work well for you. From a practical perspective, the older models will be slower to shoot and have smaller screens on the back. For example, I started shooting with an *istD - eventually aquired a second. While shooting weddings one really big issue was write speed to the card. Basically it took about 7 seconds to write a RAW image to the card. So the buffer was about 6 images. Now with a processional with of bridesmaids and groomsmen this could be a huge issue. I would need to shoot faster than once every 7 seconds. When I upgraded to a K10D, the write speed for a RAW file was about 1 second - this becomes a very reasonable rate. So the older models are going to function much slower - meaning take the shot and how fast it comes up on screen after and how soon you can shoot again when the buffer fills. K10D and later models really don't have much issue with write speed - a really long sequence could cause problems depending on buffer size, but for most people, not really an issue. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, June 25, 2010, 7:59:48 AM, you wrote: EW On Jun 25, 2010, at 10:36 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Check with the bible - Boz's site. http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/bodies/ist_D/index.html EW Thanks, Bob. Didn't know about this. I prefer the *ist DS or DS2 to the DL, and they are a cheap way to try digital. EW Yes, I think it'll be something from the *ist D series, and with EW the information I'm getting here and elsewhere, I'm definitely EW leaning toward DS or DS2. They seem to be rare in the used market, though. You should also recognize that you will need some computer horsepower, storage, and software. I started with Photoshop Elements to process and organize my pictures. And added a portable hard drive to store/backup the pictures. You'll find it's cheap and easy to save nearly everything you shoot, easier than trying to weed out the maybe's. EW I have a high-end MacBook, the one just before the solid aluminum EW bodies came out; a 500 GB Western Digital USB drive; and Photoshop EW Elements. The camera's the missing element -- a digital camera, that is. EW Thanks much, EW -- EW Eric Weir EW Decatur, GA USA EW eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Fascinating APOD today
El 25/06/2010 11:19, eckinator escribió: Go take a look http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ Cheers Ecke Thanks for the link, Ecke. The photo is fascinating indeed and makes me remember Vladimir Bartol's novel Alamut which I read about 20 years ago. Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso - young Pentxian
Nice shot, there. It's good to start 'em young! -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, June 25, 2010, 6:34:56 AM, you wrote: SS http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4729565284/ SS Comments welcome! SS --Sasha -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Lower Falls
Lower Yosemite Falls. I like how the mist from Upper Falls is highlighted in the URH corner. Pentax K-x, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 50mm ISO 200, 1/200 sec @ f/5.0 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/imgp6552-1.htm Comments welcome -- Best regards, Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
FS Friday- Lenses and bodies
I haven't listed these in a while: K10D $300 *istD with grip $250 Olympus evolt300 wiht 14-42 lens $250 K 300 f4 $250 -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso - young Pentxian
It would make a nice ad shot. On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: Nice shot, there. It's good to start 'em young! -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, June 25, 2010, 6:34:56 AM, you wrote: SS http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4729565284/ SS Comments welcome! SS --Sasha -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: *ist DL?
Eric and Bruce, I never had much of a problem with the *ist Ds and continuous shooting. My first experience was with some nesting tree swallows, and I'd get 6 or 7 shots in a burst before the buffer filled and I had to wait. (see here) http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/NestingTreeSwallows# They were probably jpeg files, not DNG's, but that's a good option, and a faster write to the card. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: Hello Eric, You seem to be bouncing around between different models. Maybe you could tell us better what your target price is so that we could hone in on models and deals that would work well for you. From a practical perspective, the older models will be slower to shoot and have smaller screens on the back. For example, I started shooting with an *istD - eventually aquired a second. While shooting weddings one really big issue was write speed to the card. Basically it took about 7 seconds to write a RAW image to the card. So the buffer was about 6 images. Now with a processional with of bridesmaids and groomsmen this could be a huge issue. I would need to shoot faster than once every 7 seconds. When I upgraded to a K10D, the write speed for a RAW file was about 1 second - this becomes a very reasonable rate. So the older models are going to function much slower - meaning take the shot and how fast it comes up on screen after and how soon you can shoot again when the buffer fills. K10D and later models really don't have much issue with write speed - a really long sequence could cause problems depending on buffer size, but for most people, not really an issue. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, June 25, 2010, 7:59:48 AM, you wrote: EW On Jun 25, 2010, at 10:36 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Check with the bible - Boz's site. http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/bodies/ist_D/index.html EW Thanks, Bob. Didn't know about this. I prefer the *ist DS or DS2 to the DL, and they are a cheap way to try digital. EW Yes, I think it'll be something from the *ist D series, and with EW the information I'm getting here and elsewhere, I'm definitely EW leaning toward DS or DS2. They seem to be rare in the used market, though. You should also recognize that you will need some computer horsepower, storage, and software. I started with Photoshop Elements to process and organize my pictures. And added a portable hard drive to store/backup the pictures. You'll find it's cheap and easy to save nearly everything you shoot, easier than trying to weed out the maybe's. EW I have a high-end MacBook, the one just before the solid aluminum EW bodies came out; a 500 GB Western Digital USB drive; and Photoshop EW Elements. The camera's the missing element -- a digital camera, that is. EW Thanks much, EW -- EW Eric Weir EW Decatur, GA USA EW eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso - young Pentxian
Sasha, I love how her hair is blowing in the wind. She looks like an aspiring pro on assignment, except for her age! Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4729565284/ Comments welcome! --Sasha -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso - young Pentxian
To quote Lord Vader: Impressive. Awesome shot; one nit, you may want to clone out that bit of lightsaber still protruding from the camera =) Next thing, ask Pentax if they'll give you a 645D for it. My consulting fee is 10% payable in hard currency. Cheers Ecke 2010/6/25 Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4729565284/ Comments welcome! --Sasha -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: *ist DL?
I was actually more trying to help Eric understand where some of the big differences between older and newer models were. Image quality is much more subjective and so is AF speed and so on. When I go back and pick up my *istD and compare it to the K10D, K20D or K-x - what immediately jumps out at me is the slower speed of shooting (shot, write, review - including waiting on full buffer sometimes) and the tiny review screen. Most other aspects don't bother me nearly as much. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, June 25, 2010, 10:22:23 AM, you wrote: BS Eric and Bruce, BS I never had much of a problem with the *ist Ds and continuous shooting. BS My first experience was with some nesting tree swallows, and BS I'd get 6 or 7 shots in a burst before the buffer filled and I had to wait. BS (see here) BS http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/NestingTreeSwallows# BS They were probably jpeg files, not DNG's, but that's a good option, BS and a faster write to the card. BS Regards, Bob S. BS On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Bruce Dayton BS bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: Hello Eric, You seem to be bouncing around between different models. Maybe you could tell us better what your target price is so that we could hone in on models and deals that would work well for you. From a practical perspective, the older models will be slower to shoot and have smaller screens on the back. For example, I started shooting with an *istD - eventually aquired a second. While shooting weddings one really big issue was write speed to the card. Basically it took about 7 seconds to write a RAW image to the card. So the buffer was about 6 images. Now with a processional with of bridesmaids and groomsmen this could be a huge issue. I would need to shoot faster than once every 7 seconds. When I upgraded to a K10D, the write speed for a RAW file was about 1 second - this becomes a very reasonable rate. So the older models are going to function much slower - meaning take the shot and how fast it comes up on screen after and how soon you can shoot again when the buffer fills. K10D and later models really don't have much issue with write speed - a really long sequence could cause problems depending on buffer size, but for most people, not really an issue. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, June 25, 2010, 7:59:48 AM, you wrote: EW On Jun 25, 2010, at 10:36 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Check with the bible - Boz's site. http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/bodies/ist_D/index.html EW Thanks, Bob. Didn't know about this. I prefer the *ist DS or DS2 to the DL, and they are a cheap way to try digital. EW Yes, I think it'll be something from the *ist D series, and with EW the information I'm getting here and elsewhere, I'm definitely EW leaning toward DS or DS2. They seem to be rare in the used market, though. You should also recognize that you will need some computer horsepower, storage, and software. I started with Photoshop Elements to process and organize my pictures. And added a portable hard drive to store/backup the pictures. You'll find it's cheap and easy to save nearly everything you shoot, easier than trying to weed out the maybe's. EW I have a high-end MacBook, the one just before the solid aluminum EW bodies came out; a 500 GB Western Digital USB drive; and Photoshop EW Elements. The camera's the missing element -- a digital camera, that is. EW Thanks much, EW -- EW Eric Weir EW Decatur, GA USA EW eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
FS Friday - simple no-name ball head
Long story short - I had ordered a ball head from Hong Kong via eBay for use on my monopod. Communication problems and shipping delays meant that it didn't get here before my trip to Costa Rica. I bought this one as an alternative. I have since received the original which has a Arca-mount on the top, more suitable for my use. So this one goes . . . Works fine, held the weight of a K20D + battery grip + DA* 50-135 without slipping. Standard female thread on the bottom to mate with monopod or tripod, standard 1/4 x 20 on the top to attach to your camera. Single screw clamp to hold the ball in place (no separate adjustment for rotation or for degree of friction as you will find on more sophisticated (i.e. expensive) heads. $25 including shipping within the U.S. Contact me off-list if interested stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS Friday - simple no-name ball head
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: Long story short - I had ordered a ball head from Hong Kong via eBay for use on my monopod. Communication problems and shipping delays meant that it didn't get here before my trip to Costa Rica. I bought this one as an alternative. I have since received the original which has a Arca-mount on the top, more suitable for my use. So this one goes . . . ... $25 including shipping within the U.S. Contact me off-list if interested Stan, I'll take it. How do you want to arrange payment? -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS Friday - simple no-name ball head
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Mat Maessen tomatoe...@gmail.com wrote: $25 including shipping within the U.S. Contact me off-list if interested Stan, Sorry about that folks. Replying off-list... -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
FS Friday OT hi-fi
My old school high end system has to go now, too =( All best offer since I don't want to waste time researching foreign market prices in case noone cares for any of this stuff (which I reckon will be the case) Revox B77 Mk II, fully functional, optical condition very good except the plastic hood (back panel one side broken off as typical for this model, front panel has a hole drilled for pen access to the counter reset button. Comes with several tapes, full and half size on Revox and 3rd party reels Revox B285, optical condition very good, fully functional but turns itself on from time to time. Tech docs for this unit are still available, according to some Danish guy on a hi-fi forum a capacitor has to be replaced somewhere. The nice thing about the B285 is it is modular so it comes apart for repair very easily. I used it with a switched power strip so this behavior didn't bother me much. Alpine AL-90 cassette deck, hewn from a solid block of lead or so it feels. Looks fine, left channel level indicator needle will not recede to zero position but only 5% above in ongoing use, this is a typical issue with this model. Akai DS-5 line switch Sony A-D converter, will post model later. I also have a pair of gorgeous Consequence Audio speakers but shipping cost will be prohibitive =( Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Fascinating APOD today
TY Carlos - `should I read that book? Cheers Ecke 2010/6/25 Carlos R carlos_r...@teleline.es: El 25/06/2010 11:19, eckinator escribió: Go take a look http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ Cheers Ecke Thanks for the link, Ecke. The photo is fascinating indeed and makes me remember Vladimir Bartol's novel Alamut which I read about 20 years ago. Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: best budget MF 100mm macro
Kiron 105/2.8 (Also sold as a Lester Dine or Vivitar) is probably your best bet for reasonably cheap and good. The Kiron and Vivitar versions can be had as A lenses, but not usually for sub-$100. This is a case where you're going to have to pick cheap or convenient. KA mount macros are almost never that cheap but plain K mount can be had. -Adam On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 12:53 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: i've been doing a lot of macro with with my 16-45, and enjoying it a lot, but also getting tired of crawling around on the ground; i've realized a 100mm (or longer) macro could save my back a bit of wear; i'm fine with manual focus, but would prefer aperture control (green button slows me down a lot), so what would people recommend as a real value in this category (sub-$100 on a good craig's list day)? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Lower Falls
Well done. One of those nature shots that make me feel small. Beautiful. Cheers Ecke 2010/6/25 Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com: Lower Yosemite Falls. I like how the mist from Upper Falls is highlighted in the URH corner. Pentax K-x, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 50mm ISO 200, 1/200 sec @ f/5.0 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/imgp6552-1.htm Comments welcome -- Best regards, Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: best budget MF 100mm macro
I don't know how good that one is but new Cosina 100/3.5 AF macros come up on eBay quite often. Over here they sell for as low as € 60 at times. Does anyone know about this lens? Cheers Ecke 2010/6/25 steve harley p...@paper-ape.com: i've been doing a lot of macro with with my 16-45, and enjoying it a lot, but also getting tired of crawling around on the ground; i've realized a 100mm (or longer) macro could save my back a bit of wear; i'm fine with manual focus, but would prefer aperture control (green button slows me down a lot), so what would people recommend as a real value in this category (sub-$100 on a good craig's list day)? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - G8/G20 silly season
On 24/6/10, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed: http://is.gd/d2IEN Hey has a Hi-Lift jack (Jack-All) so he can't be all that bad! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: best budget MF 100mm macro
Steve, That's a tough request. You need an A series lens to get past the green button, and right there you've spent $100+. Most of the 100mm macro lenses are quite good, regardless of make, but few are 'A' type. You might try extension tubes on a 100mm lens, it's cheap. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 11:53 AM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: i've been doing a lot of macro with with my 16-45, and enjoying it a lot, but also getting tired of crawling around on the ground; i've realized a 100mm (or longer) macro could save my back a bit of wear; i'm fine with manual focus, but would prefer aperture control (green button slows me down a lot), so what would people recommend as a real value in this category (sub-$100 on a good craig's list day)? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: so how do you tell Google their maps have a town in the wrong place?
2010/6/25 Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com: They used to buy map data from TeleAtlas (owned by TomTom, and I think they dropped the TeleAtlas name, as of today!). Now Google maintains their own map data. Since then, the response time to problem reports has improved tremendously for me. My Google problem reports have been addressed within a week or two, whereas I still have open TeleAtlas problem reports dating back to 12/2008. (We have determined that your report remains a problem in the 2010.06 release of Tele Atlas Map data.) Also, when Google dropped TeleAtlas, my correct home address started working. I had to fudge it to an incorrect town name to get it to work with TeleAtlas. My reason to choose NavTeq map PNAs, worked glitch free thus far. Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: best budget MF 100mm macro
I don't think a 100mm saves your back that much. maybe a cheap refconverter from china or a home made mirror on the LCD screen in combination with live view... Toine On 25 June 2010 18:53, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: i've been doing a lot of macro with with my 16-45, and enjoying it a lot, but also getting tired of crawling around on the ground; i've realized a 100mm (or longer) macro could save my back a bit of wear; i'm fine with manual focus, but would prefer aperture control (green button slows me down a lot), so what would people recommend as a real value in this category (sub-$100 on a good craig's list day)? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: best budget MF 100mm macro
2010/6/25 Toine to...@repiuk.nl: I don't think a 100mm saves your back that much. maybe a cheap refconverter from china or a home made mirror on the LCD screen in combination with live view... Seeing what day of the week it is: Maybe a /somewhat/ cheap refconverter from Germany? I still have a Pentax RefConverter M up for sale. Off list if interested. Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Fascinating APOD today
El 25/06/2010 19:44, eckinator escribió: TY Carlos - `should I read that book? Cheers Ecke I don't dare to say that you should, Ecke, but it is excellent reading, at least for my taste. Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: *ist DL?
On Jun 25, 2010, at 1:00 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: you seem to be bouncing around between different models. I'm a rank amateur, and a bit on the poor side, too. Maybe you could tell us better what your target price is so that we could hone in on models and deals that would work well for you. Well, I've been open to purchasing a new Kx. But lately I've been thinking something even less expensive, even very inexpensive, the best thing I could get cheaply to experiment with to see whether photography, especially digital, is going to be the thing for me it sometimes seems like it is. There's a *ist DS with lens on eBay right now with an opening price of $250, two days to go, and no bids. I wouldn't want to go much more than that for that setup. Sometimes I think, being poor, should I invest time, money, and effort in photography -- I've had enough experience to know that it has an effect on me; I start seeing things differently; I pay attention to things I wouldn't even even have noticed otherwise; I'm more engaged, in more than one respect -- or should I save the money and really buckle down to getting serious about learning to play the classical guitar I've been diddling around with for so long. Another factor is that I'm an old man. Never said that before, but it's true. From a practical perspective, the older models will be slower to shoot and have smaller screens on the back. I figured I could live with the small screen. Probably knew back there somewhere about the slower shooting, but it hadn't occurred to me. Don't know if it would be a problem for the kind of experimenting I imagine myself doing. A lot what interests me would involve still shots. I'm involved with recreational sports for kids, and could see myself shooting some action. But even six or seven shots would be more than I could get off with my film camera. I appreciate the suggestion of things to think about. Sincerely, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: best budget MF 100mm macro
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Toine to...@repiuk.nl wrote: I don't think a 100mm saves your back that much. maybe a cheap refconverter from china or a home made mirror on the LCD screen in combination with live view... Toine For those that don't already know it, the Olympus Varimagni fits perfectly on Pentax DSLRs. Regarding the original question, we should probably define our terms. What do YOU mean by Macro. A lot of zooms have macro settings but only get you to 1:4 or 1:5. Are you needing 1:1? 1:2? Or are you thinking of zoom type macro? Also, not sure what camera this is for, but the Green Button doesn't really slow you down (much at all) assuming you understand the different modes and menu settings to take advantage of them. I don't think the A price premium is worth it, especially for a true macro lens. My main macro lenses are all non-A: S-M-C Takumar 50mm f4, Tamron SP 90mm f2.5 (can be used with the SP 1.4x or 2x teleconverter to get closer than 1:2), and the legendary Vivitar 90mm f2.5 (Bokina) - also a 1:2 macro but has a matched 2x multiplier to get to 1:1. I think the Tamron is the best bang-for-the-buck macro for a Pentax DSLR, but it is still going to run you $125-150 and another $45-50 for the 2x SP converter. Under $100 for a true macro is possible, but unlikely. Have you considered a normal prime (like a 100mm f2.8) in conjunction with an automatic extension tube? Darren Addy Kearney, NE -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: best budget MF 100mm macro
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 2:19 PM, CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com wrote: I think the Tamron is the best bang-for-the-buck macro for a Pentax DSLR, but it is still going to run you $125-150 and another $45-50 for the 2x SP converter. Under $100 for a true macro is possible, but unlikely. Have you considered a normal prime (like a 100mm f2.8) in conjunction with an automatic extension tube? Darren Addy Kearney, NE Darren: The Tamron SP 90/2.5 can be an A lens if you have the KA Adaptall-2 mount instead of the P/K Adaptall-2 mount, both are available. It also has an available dedicated 1:1 tube in addition to supporting the TC's. The Tamron can be found for $125-150 but is usually more and the KA AD2 mount is generally more expensive than the P/K version. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: best budget MF 100mm macro
The glass is pretty good. The build is awful. Was also sold as the Pentax-FA 100/3.5 Macro. -Adam On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 1:48 PM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know how good that one is but new Cosina 100/3.5 AF macros come up on eBay quite often. Over here they sell for as low as € 60 at times. Does anyone know about this lens? Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: *ist DL?
I have had my DL for about 4 years and (if my file numbering is correct) over 10K photos (but that does seem a lot) I have been very happy with it, admittedly this is my only DSLR but I really don't have any complaints. Ecke, On the IR front, can I ask why you crossed out the DL? IME it is very sensitive to IR, with a standard R72 filter on the kit 3.5-5.6 lens I can comfortably hand hold even on a fairly overcast day... http://www.flickr.com/photos/rileyelf/4038560732/ or http://www.flickr.com/photos/rileyelf/2227329494/ HTH Drew. On 25/06/10 14:54, eckinator wrote: taken from letsgodigital (excerpts) Pentax *ist DL digital camera review : [...] larger monitor on the Pentax *ist DL which will be available as a cheaper alternative for the *ist DS. Light weight and difference in price is interesting, some 150 euros. This low price makes the Pentax *ist DL the cheapest digital reflex camera for now (August 2005). And the smallest one [...] also lost some weight compared to the *ist DS. This loss of weight is probably due to replacing the prism for mirrors. Normally the prism is situated inside the viewfinder of a reflex camera, but in the *ist DL digital SLR the light is being diverted to the ocular through mirrors. [...] - Auto focus system [...] *ist DL uses a 3-point auto focus where as the *ist DS uses an 11-point auto focus. Also the sensor has become one step less sensitive, which won't get noticed much in practise. The internal buffer has decreased; it's capable of containing a maximum of five images. More items have been improved. The most important one is the monitor on the back of the camera. Pentax *ist DS users couldn't complain about the 2-inch sized one; let alone *ist DL users. The Pentax *istDL features a giant 2.5-inch sized monitor. [...] *ist DL continues with the familiar concept, a compact camera particularly aiming at the beginning photographer. Mixed batch I'd say... I know when I was choosing a starkist for its IR abilities (which I have yet to buy) I crossed out the DL first. HTH Ecke 2010/6/25 Eric Weireew...@bellsouth.net: On Jun 23, 2010, at 2:21 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds w/smc Pentax M 40mm f2.8. This won't go on forever. There's a *ist DL with 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 on eBay and the seller's here in Atlanta. I'm interested because the camera is small, the cost is low, and the cool low light image that started the Praying at St. Michaels thread was made with a *ist Ds. Also because I'm just getting my feet wet again in photography and am not sure how much time, money, etc., I'm going to end up investing in it. My questions: What's the difference between a *1st Ds and a *1st DL? Might this be a reasonable investment for me given my circumstances and needs? What would a reasonable price for this machine? [I've asked the buyer if he has a buy now price. In response he's asking what my range would be.] Again, I promise this won't go on forever. Thanks, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: *ist DL?
Drew, Those are some very nice IR images. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 1:36 PM, drew riley...@rileyelf.free-online.co.uk wrote: I have had my DL for about 4 years and (if my file numbering is correct) over 10K photos (but that does seem a lot) I have been very happy with it, admittedly this is my only DSLR but I really don't have any complaints. Ecke, On the IR front, can I ask why you crossed out the DL? IME it is very sensitive to IR, with a standard R72 filter on the kit 3.5-5.6 lens I can comfortably hand hold even on a fairly overcast day... http://www.flickr.com/photos/rileyelf/4038560732/ or http://www.flickr.com/photos/rileyelf/2227329494/ HTH Drew. On 25/06/10 14:54, eckinator wrote: taken from letsgodigital (excerpts) Pentax *ist DL digital camera review : [...] larger monitor on the Pentax *ist DL which will be available as a cheaper alternative for the *ist DS. Light weight and difference in price is interesting, some 150 euros. This low price makes the Pentax *ist DL the cheapest digital reflex camera for now (August 2005). And the smallest one [...] also lost some weight compared to the *ist DS. This loss of weight is probably due to replacing the prism for mirrors. Normally the prism is situated inside the viewfinder of a reflex camera, but in the *ist DL digital SLR the light is being diverted to the ocular through mirrors. [...] - Auto focus system [...] *ist DL uses a 3-point auto focus where as the *ist DS uses an 11-point auto focus. Also the sensor has become one step less sensitive, which won't get noticed much in practise. The internal buffer has decreased; it's capable of containing a maximum of five images. More items have been improved. The most important one is the monitor on the back of the camera. Pentax *ist DS users couldn't complain about the 2-inch sized one; let alone *ist DL users. The Pentax *istDL features a giant 2.5-inch sized monitor. [...] *ist DL continues with the familiar concept, a compact camera particularly aiming at the beginning photographer. Mixed batch I'd say... I know when I was choosing a starkist for its IR abilities (which I have yet to buy) I crossed out the DL first. HTH Ecke 2010/6/25 Eric Weireew...@bellsouth.net: On Jun 23, 2010, at 2:21 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds w/smc Pentax M 40mm f2.8. This won't go on forever. There's a *ist DL with 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 on eBay and the seller's here in Atlanta. I'm interested because the camera is small, the cost is low, and the cool low light image that started the Praying at St. Michaels thread was made with a *ist Ds. Also because I'm just getting my feet wet again in photography and am not sure how much time, money, etc., I'm going to end up investing in it. My questions: What's the difference between a *1st Ds and a *1st DL? Might this be a reasonable investment for me given my circumstances and needs? What would a reasonable price for this machine? [I've asked the buyer if he has a buy now price. In response he's asking what my range would be.] Again, I promise this won't go on forever. Thanks, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: *ist DL?
2010/6/25 Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net: I'm a rank amateur, and a bit on the poor side, too. The good thing about a digital camera is it lets you experiment and practice at zero consumables cost. Sometimes I think, being poor, should I invest time, money, and effort in photography -- I've had enough experience to know that it has an effect on me; I start seeing things differently; I pay attention to things I wouldn't even even have noticed otherwise; I'm more engaged, in more than one respect -- or should I save the money and really buckle down to getting serious about learning to play the classical guitar I've been diddling around with for so long. Does playing the classical guitar have less, more or a similar effect on you? Not having tried which one would you regret more? My thoughts. Also, how much are the guitar lessons for the length of time needed to get to the desired level? Another factor is that I'm an old man. Never said that before, but it's true. I am not, my 40 years get laughed at by many on this list so you're not alone =) What criteria does your age add to your considerations? Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: *ist DL?
Eric, You've got to know about KEH. They have a DS and DL for sale now. Their quality has been as rated, or better. See Pentax digital cameras. http://www.keh.com Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: On Jun 25, 2010, at 1:00 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: you seem to be bouncing around between different models. I'm a rank amateur, and a bit on the poor side, too. Maybe you could tell us better what your target price is so that we could hone in on models and deals that would work well for you. Well, I've been open to purchasing a new Kx. But lately I've been thinking something even less expensive, even very inexpensive, the best thing I could get cheaply to experiment with to see whether photography, especially digital, is going to be the thing for me it sometimes seems like it is. There's a *ist DS with lens on eBay right now with an opening price of $250, two days to go, and no bids. I wouldn't want to go much more than that for that setup. Sometimes I think, being poor, should I invest time, money, and effort in photography -- I've had enough experience to know that it has an effect on me; I start seeing things differently; I pay attention to things I wouldn't even even have noticed otherwise; I'm more engaged, in more than one respect -- or should I save the money and really buckle down to getting serious about learning to play the classical guitar I've been diddling around with for so long. Another factor is that I'm an old man. Never said that before, but it's true. From a practical perspective, the older models will be slower to shoot and have smaller screens on the back. I figured I could live with the small screen. Probably knew back there somewhere about the slower shooting, but it hadn't occurred to me. Don't know if it would be a problem for the kind of experimenting I imagine myself doing. A lot what interests me would involve still shots. I'm involved with recreational sports for kids, and could see myself shooting some action. But even six or seven shots would be more than I could get off with my film camera. I appreciate the suggestion of things to think about. Sincerely, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Lower Falls
That's nice, Bruce! I, also, can appreciate the upper falls spray. If you have the latitude, I'd do one in which I included more of the bottom stream at the cost of losing some of the spray. That way I believe the image would be stronger and able to stand on it's own. Jack --- On Fri, 6/25/10, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: From: Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com Subject: PESO - Lower Falls To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, June 25, 2010, 10:08 AM Lower Yosemite Falls. I like how the mist from Upper Falls is highlighted in the URH corner. Pentax K-x, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 50mm ISO 200, 1/200 sec @ f/5.0 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/imgp6552-1.htm Comments welcome -- Best regards, Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: *ist DL?
2010/6/25 drew riley...@rileyelf.free-online.co.uk: Ecke, On the IR front, can I ask why you crossed out the DL? IME it is very sensitive to IR, with a standard R72 filter on the kit 3.5-5.6 lens I can comfortably hand hold even on a fairly overcast day... http://www.flickr.com/photos/rileyelf/4038560732/ or http://www.flickr.com/photos/rileyelf/2227329494/ Gorgeous shots, Drew. I really only crossed it out looking at the feature sheets trying to decide which *ist gives most bang for the buck. Maybe I was even wrong... dunno, really. Haven't bought one yet after all. Doubt I will be able to any time soon, half a year of sick pay has driven me into illiquidity... Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: best budget MF 100mm macro - aux lenses too
Don't forget closeup auxillary lenses which screw into the front of your prime 100mm. I have a pair of pentax SMC ones that scream sharp. You definitely need multicoated on these, I think hoya made some with HMC that should be good too. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Join the CD PLAYER DISC Discussions : http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: best budget MF 100mm macro
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: Darren: The Tamron SP 90/2.5 can be an A lens if you have the KA Adaptall-2 mount instead of the P/K Adaptall-2 mount, both are available. It also has an available dedicated 1:1 tube in addition to supporting the TC's. The Tamron can be found for $125-150 but is usually more and the KA AD2 mount is generally more expensive than the P/K version. Good point Adam. Didn't think of that since I've yet to find a PK/A Adaptall mount reasonably priced for myself. When I've seen them offered they usually run between $80-95 by themselves. My adaptall mounts are all PK/M at the moment. Darren Addy Kearney, NE -- Nothing is sure, except Death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: best budget MF 100mm macro - aux lenses too
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 1:53 PM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: Don't forget closeup auxillary lenses which screw into the front of your prime 100mm. I have a pair of pentax SMC ones that scream sharp. You definitely need multicoated on these, I think hoya made some with HMC that should be good too. This is a GREAT point. If you use achromat (not your el-cheapo close-up filters) you can get some great results. Here's a handheld shot I made with a Pentax-F 70-210mm (non-macro zoom) with a 48mm Canon 450 screw-in achromat. Need a 48mm step-down ring to use it, but it was inexpensive (around $30) http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4065/4585315414_72f7c06a16_b.jpg I was awakened to the high quality of achromatic close-up lenses by John Shaw's amazing book: Closeups In Nature so a got a couple of older ones rather inexpensively. Some people say that the Canon 450 is an others that it is not an achromatic. I have two (both in 48mm filter size) and I think that one is an achromat and one is not! Both of these were handheld at the 70mm setting, but would have benefited from tripod mounting and perhaps use of the focusing stage. I hope to get time to play with them more on various lenses, such as the Takumar 135mm f3.5. Darren Addy Kearney, NE -- Nothing is sure, except Death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D
Let's just spread oil on troubled waters...
On 6/25/2010 8:11 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote:
Hey, let's not spill the beans.
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 5:06 AM, eckinatoreckina...@gmail.com wrote:
2010/6/25drd1...@gmail.com:
Yeah, but Congress would still base national policy on it.
OK let's give these figures to BP then...
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Re: *ist DL?
On 6/25/2010 9:19 AM, Eric Weir wrote:
On Jun 23, 2010, at 2:21 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds w/smc Pentax M 40mm f2.8.
This won't go on forever. There's a *ist DL with 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 on eBay and
the seller's here in Atlanta.
I'm interested because the camera is small, the cost is low, and the cool low light image
that started the Praying at St. Michaels thread was made with a *ist Ds. Also
because I'm just getting my feet wet again in photography and am not sure how much time,
money, etc., I'm going to end up investing in it.
My questions: What's the difference between a *1st Ds and a *1st DL? Might this be a
reasonable investment for me given my circumstances and needs? What would a reasonable
price for this machine? [I've asked the buyer if he has a buy now price. In
response he's asking what my range would be.]
Again, I promise this won't go on forever.
Thanks,
--
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Decatur, GA USA
eew...@bellsouth.net
The major difference between a Ds and a DL is the viewfinder, Ds is a
Pentaprism the DL is a Mirror prism, the Ds has a bigger buffer and the
same 9 point auto focus sensor as the D but the DL has a three point
system like the MZ/ZX-5n film camera IIRC.
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Re: *ist DL?
On 6/25/2010 3:09 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: On 6/25/2010 9:19 AM, Eric Weir wrote: On Jun 23, 2010, at 2:21 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds w/smc Pentax M 40mm f2.8. This won't go on forever. There's a *ist DL with 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 on eBay and the seller's here in Atlanta. I'm interested because the camera is small, the cost is low, and the cool low light image that started the Praying at St. Michaels thread was made with a *ist Ds. Also because I'm just getting my feet wet again in photography and am not sure how much time, money, etc., I'm going to end up investing in it. My questions: What's the difference between a *1st Ds and a *1st DL? Might this be a reasonable investment for me given my circumstances and needs? What would a reasonable price for this machine? [I've asked the buyer if he has a buy now price. In response he's asking what my range would be.] Again, I promise this won't go on forever. Thanks, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net The major difference between a Ds and a DL is the viewfinder, Ds is a Pentaprism the DL is a Mirror prism, the Ds has a bigger buffer and the same 9 point auto focus sensor as the D but the DL has a three point system like the MZ/ZX-5n film camera IIRC. That should be 11 points. But others already have posted that -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: best budget MF 100mm macro
On 2010-06-25 12:19 , CheekyGeek wrote: Regarding the original question, we should probably define our terms. What do YOU mean by Macro. A lot of zooms have macro settings but only get you to 1:4 or 1:5. Are you needing 1:1? 1:2? good question, the refconverter idea has me thinking too ... i probably want at least 1:2; i'm now using a 16-45, which has a fairly satisfying 1:4 for my current project -- cataloging my fairly large plant collection; but in the process i'm learning more about identification, which often means tiny details, and also i'm enjoying insects; in any case, i'm often at minimum distance (which is about 4, rather than the 0.28m (11) stamped on the focus ring -- maybe the magnification is more than advertised too? the camera is k200d i understand the green button pretty well (i've used it a lot with M 50/1.4), but i feel it does slow me down a bit; i tend to move from plant to plant and exposure changes a lot among my challenges are the crawling around, depth of field and perspective; i thought a 100mm lens would give me some working distance and improve perspective in some cases, but not help much with depth of field (i generally want more) except perhaps allow me more comfort so i can stop down more and wait for breezes to subside; i don't like the results above ISO 400 on this camera, and prefer 200 for flowers, and i'm often in shade, so i'm often at f8 and about 1/30 sec i'm basically casting about for the value option combined with best practices; maybe a refconverter and an extension tube and/or 2x teleconverter on my 50/1.4 would be a better choice for my budget suggestions so far are good food for thought, thanks all -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: T mount lens adapters - a question.
Yes. You won't get any more automation, (T mounts are basically just
machined metal), but if you're using K mount lenses it's more
convenient. If it's your only K mount lens it will be less so.
On 6/25/2010 8:57 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote:
The great benefit of sticking with Pentax for me has been the continued use
of M42 screw thread lenses. I use them with a small Pentax K ring to M42
thread in both my film and digital SLRs. I've recently acquired for a very
small sum a 200mm M42 lens that has a T mount attached to it. As it still
has a screw thread, it works perfectly with the usual mount. Is the real
purpose of this mount so that you can fit a K mount to it as a permanent
fixture, and then use it as you would any other K mount lens?
Malcolm
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Re: K20D
That's a slick idea.
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 3:06 PM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
Let's just spread oil on troubled waters...
On 6/25/2010 8:11 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote:
Hey, let's not spill the beans.
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 5:06 AM, eckinatoreckina...@gmail.com wrote:
2010/6/25drd1...@gmail.com:
Yeah, but Congress would still base national policy on it.
OK let's give these figures to BP then...
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Re: best budget MF 100mm macro
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 3:14 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: On 2010-06-25 12:19 , CheekyGeek wrote: Regarding the original question, we should probably define our terms. What do YOU mean by Macro. A lot of zooms have macro settings but only get you to 1:4 or 1:5. Are you needing 1:1? 1:2? good question, the refconverter idea has me thinking too ... i probably want at least 1:2; i'm now using a 16-45, which has a fairly satisfying 1:4 for my current project -- cataloging my fairly large plant collection; but in the process i'm learning more about identification, which often means tiny details, and also i'm enjoying insects; in any case, i'm often at minimum distance (which is about 4, rather than the 0.28m (11) stamped on the focus ring -- maybe the magnification is more than advertised too? Focus distance is measured from the sensor plane, not the front of the lens. Your missing 7 is in the body and lens. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW24 - Art picture
Late thank you (I´ve been to some remote Norwegian town .-) No, I don´t know the painter. I found it on a street art market i Strasbourg and I did use some time to find the right angle. There was something funny there I just had to photograph... DagT http://www.thrane.name Den 21. juni 2010 kl. 13.40 skrev eckinator: I wouldn't mind - the paintings kinda look like someone stuck Basquiat, Dali, Hundertwasser and Kandinsky into a blender - Dag, do you know the name of the artist by any chance? Cheers Ecke 2010/6/21 Madame RD romd...@orange.fr: Le 20/06/10 20:19, eckinator a écrit : Beautiful image, scene and colors well captured absolutely true .. but to me it meant : no way ! you'll have to go through it all . ;))) dominique -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: When Lightning strikes twice
Interesting image: http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/theskyline/2010/06/sometimes-a-photographer-goes-out-in-search-of-a-good-photo--and-because-of-unforseen-circumstances-comes-back-with-a-gre.html?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+chicagotribune%2Ftheskyline+%28ChicagoTribune+-+Cityscapes%29 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: best budget MF 100mm macro
On 2010-06-25 14:31, Adam Maas wrote: Darren: The Tamron SP 90/2.5 can be an A lens if you have the KA Adaptall-2 mount instead of the P/K Adaptall-2 mount, both are available. I have this lens, without the 1:1 tube. I have it on a PK-A Adaptall-2 mount. But I've never gotten it to set f-stops properly on any camera since the LX. Maybe my mount is broken. It works great in full manual mode, though. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: best budget MF 100mm macro
On 2010-06-25 13:24 , Adam Maas wrote: Focus distance is measured from the sensor plane, not the front of the lens. Your missing 7 is in the body and lens. glad to learn that! however it doesn't fully explain it since front of lens to sensor is only about 5 1/2 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: T mount lens adapters - a question.
T-mounts have a male thread of 42mm by 0.75mm thead pitch,
M42 lenses have a 42mm by 1.0mm pitch. Don't attempt to
fit a T-mount lens onto a M42 body or M42 adapter directly.
You need to use the correct Tmount adapter with T mount
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Yes. You won't get any more automation, (T mounts are basically just
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Re: *ist DL?
On Jun 25, 2010, at 2:43 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: You've got to know about KEH. They have a DS and DL for sale now. Their quality has been as rated, or better. Thanks, Bob. Yes they do. [$205] Also a couple of 18-55 F3.5-5.6 SMC DA AL II lenses. [$89-$99] Wouldn't even have to pay for shipping. So, maybe it's crunch time. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: best budget MF 100mm macro : telephotos
telephoto lenses are physically shorter than their focal length, that may be the difference in you measurements. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Join the CD PLAYER DISC Discussions : http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of steve harley Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 3:41 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: best budget MF 100mm macro On 2010-06-25 13:24 , Adam Maas wrote: Focus distance is measured from the sensor plane, not the front of the lens. Your missing 7 is in the body and lens. glad to learn that! however it doesn't fully explain it since front of lens to sensor is only about 5 1/2 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: *ist DL?
On Jun 25, 2010, at 2:42 PM, eckinator wrote: Does playing the classical guitar have less, more or a similar effect on you? Not having tried which one would you regret more? When I'm even half-way consistent at plunking around on the guitar, and begin to get a feel for what even a modest level of mastery feels like, there's a lot of satisfaction. Hard to choose between them. Both require initiative and effort. The guitar's always around. Photography -- for me -- would require that I get out of the house. But then I love the outdoors. Photography could be the occasion. And get me into places I might not otherwise go -- like a wetlands and a state park here in metro Atlanta that apparently are great for birds, other wildlife, and flowers. Also, how much are the guitar lessons for the length of time needed to get to the desired level? I took lessons for about six months once. I'm able to learn -- up to a point -- on my own. Progress would be quicker with lessons, and help me get over critical humps. Realistically, unless i was to go really overboard on photo equipment, probably about the same. What criteria does your age add to your considerations? I'm almost 70. In good health so far, and good genes in that respect, as well. Might have another 15 to 20 years. But at this point you realize there's only so much you can fit it. There are a lot of things. They're not all possible. Don't know whether photography would be one more thing or an enhancement of one or more selected others. Regards, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso - young Pentxian
Great shot! Now teach her to keep her elbows in and braced against her chest to reduce camera shake. :-) On Jun 25, 2010, at 6:34 AM, Sasha Sobol wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4729565284/ Comments welcome! --Sasha -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: T mount lens adapters - a question.
P. J. Alling wrote: Yes. You won't get any more automation, (T mounts are basically just machined metal), but if you're using K mount lenses it's more convenient. If it's your only K mount lens it will be less so. I'm fine on the lack of automation, just trying to save swapping mounts about. I did look at getting a M42 to K mount for each lens, but there is a huge difference in price between the genuine Pentax article and copies - a look on eBay earlier found the genuine item on sale for the better part of £50 from a dealer and £5 copies. Even getting a copy often doubles what I've paid for an M42 thread lens, so it is a serious matter... Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: T mount lens adapters - a question.
J.C. O'Connell wrote: T-mounts have a male thread of 42mm by 0.75mm thead pitch, M42 lenses have a 42mm by 1.0mm pitch. Don't attempt to fit a T-mount lens onto a M42 body or M42 adapter directly. You need to use the correct Tmount adapter with T mount lenses Duly noted. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: *ist DL?
Eric I know how it feels as I am 67. I try to find what I am interested in and stick with it. So far, I stick with ham radio, sailboats, and photography (in no particular order. All are capable to taking up more time than I have.) Also, I have a Ds and love it.. It does what I want, even when what I want is dead wrong. I have both bought, sold and had cameras serviced by KEH. Good people! John G Eric Weir wrote: On Jun 25, 2010, at 2:42 PM, eckinator wrote: Does playing the classical guitar have less, more or a similar effect on you? Not having tried which one would you regret more? When I'm even half-way consistent at plunking around on the guitar, and begin to get a feel for what even a modest level of mastery feels like, there's a lot of satisfaction. Hard to choose between them. Both require initiative and effort. The guitar's always around. Photography -- for me -- would require that I get out of the house. But then I love the outdoors. Photography could be the occasion. And get me into places I might not otherwise go -- like a wetlands and a state park here in metro Atlanta that apparently are great for birds, other wildlife, and flowers. Also, how much are the guitar lessons for the length of time needed to get to the desired level? I took lessons for about six months once. I'm able to learn -- up to a point -- on my own. Progress would be quicker with lessons, and help me get over critical humps. Realistically, unless i was to go really overboard on photo equipment, probably about the same. What criteria does your age add to your considerations? I'm almost 70. In good health so far, and good genes in that respect, as well. Might have another 15 to 20 years. But at this point you realize there's only so much you can fit it. There are a lot of things. They're not all possible. Don't know whether photography would be one more thing or an enhancement of one or more selected others. Regards, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.830 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2962 - Release Date: 06/25/10 02:35:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: When Lightning strikes twice
How's that for timing? Jack --- On Fri, 6/25/10, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com Subject: OT: When Lightning strikes twice To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, June 25, 2010, 12:31 PM Interesting image: http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/theskyline/2010/06/sometimes-a-photographer-goes-out-in-search-of-a-good-photo--and-because-of-unforseen-circumstances-comes-back-with-a-gre.html?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+chicagotribune%2Ftheskyline+%28ChicagoTribune+-+Cityscapes%29 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso - young Pentxian
Thanks to everyone. --S On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Great shot! Now teach her to keep her elbows in and braced against her chest to reduce camera shake. :-) On Jun 25, 2010, at 6:34 AM, Sasha Sobol wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4729565284/ Comments welcome! --Sasha -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: *ist DL?
John What's your callsign? Bill KG4LOV On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 4:41 PM, John Graves jh.gra...@verizon.net wrote: Eric I know how it feels as I am 67. I try to find what I am interested in and stick with it. So far, I stick with ham radio, sailboats, and photography (in no particular order. All are capable to taking up more time than I have.) Also, I have a Ds and love it.. It does what I want, even when what I want is dead wrong. I have both bought, sold and had cameras serviced by KEH. Good people! John G Eric Weir wrote: On Jun 25, 2010, at 2:42 PM, eckinator wrote: Does playing the classical guitar have less, more or a similar effect on you? Not having tried which one would you regret more? When I'm even half-way consistent at plunking around on the guitar, and begin to get a feel for what even a modest level of mastery feels like, there's a lot of satisfaction. Hard to choose between them. Both require initiative and effort. The guitar's always around. Photography -- for me -- would require that I get out of the house. But then I love the outdoors. Photography could be the occasion. And get me into places I might not otherwise go -- like a wetlands and a state park here in metro Atlanta that apparently are great for birds, other wildlife, and flowers. Also, how much are the guitar lessons for the length of time needed to get to the desired level? I took lessons for about six months once. I'm able to learn -- up to a point -- on my own. Progress would be quicker with lessons, and help me get over critical humps. Realistically, unless i was to go really overboard on photo equipment, probably about the same. What criteria does your age add to your considerations? I'm almost 70. In good health so far, and good genes in that respect, as well. Might have another 15 to 20 years. But at this point you realize there's only so much you can fit it. There are a lot of things. They're not all possible. Don't know whether photography would be one more thing or an enhancement of one or more selected others. Regards, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.830 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2962 - Release Date: 06/25/10 02:35:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso - young Pentxian
Excellent pic. Paul On Jun 25, 2010, at 1:03 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: Nice shot, there. It's good to start 'em young! -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, June 25, 2010, 6:34:56 AM, you wrote: SS http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4729565284/ SS Comments welcome! SS --Sasha -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: *ist DL?
2010/6/25 Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net: When I'm even half-way consistent at plunking around on the guitar, and begin to get a feel for what even a modest level of mastery feels like, there's a lot of satisfaction. Hard to choose between them. Both require initiative and effort. The guitar's always around. Photography -- for me -- would require that I get out of the house. But then I love the outdoors. Photography could be the occasion. And get me into places I might not otherwise go -- like a wetlands and a state park here in metro Atlanta that apparently are great for birds, other wildlife, and flowers. Music plays a huge role in my life. It serves as an indicator of how I feel. The less music I listen to, the less I have left in me. Right now I listen to practically none. I've been having the same six meaningless CDs in the changer in my car since April. Much by the same token, the better I feel, the more creative I feel and I like to listen to music when I pack my kit and sometimes also when I use it. I can imagine it means much to you, too. Surely you will keep plunking as you say if you get a DSLR? I took lessons for about six months once. I'm able to learn -- up to a point -- on my own. Progress would be quicker with lessons, and help me get over critical humps. Realistically, unless i was to go really overboard on photo equipment, probably about the same. I have to let that stand as I have zero musical talent. I am only good at knowing what I like to listen to. And sometimes to a point to explain why. I'm almost 70. In good health so far, and good genes in that respect, as well. Might have another 15 to 20 years. But at this point you realize there's only so much you can fit it. There are a lot of things. They're not all possible. Don't know whether photography would be one more thing or an enhancement of one or more selected others. It sounds to me actually like an enhancement with a life of its own - you will do some of it for your own sake, some of it to document other things that you do and in turn some of what you see when you document will change the way you look at what you do and ultimately how you do it. I think a guitar can only give you some of that if you regularly practice in a group/buddy/friend context I don't know if any of the above helps but I know I would choose photography again any day even though I consider myself at best very modestly gifted. However, Gore Vidal called photography the art form of the untalented. So there =) Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Lower Falls
I agree. The mist works nicely for you here. Great color and light as well. I might have liked it a bit more if the lower falls were moved to the left in frame and we saw more of the mist at upper right. Of course, I wasn't there, so it's just a guess. Paul On Jun 25, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: Lower Yosemite Falls. I like how the mist from Upper Falls is highlighted in the URH corner. Pentax K-x, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 50mm ISO 200, 1/200 sec @ f/5.0 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/imgp6552-1.htm Comments welcome -- Best regards, Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: When Lightning strikes twice
Lucky spot, great timing (I question that it is more than coincidental, lightning happens faster than human reaction) but the image is to me spectacular only because of the fact depicted, not because it is overly pretty imo. Cheers Ecke 2010/6/25 Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com: How's that for timing? Jack --- On Fri, 6/25/10, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com Subject: OT: When Lightning strikes twice To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, June 25, 2010, 12:31 PM Interesting image: http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/theskyline/2010/06/sometimes-a-photographer-goes-out-in-search-of-a-good-photo--and-because-of-unforseen-circumstances-comes-back-with-a-gre.html?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+chicagotribune%2Ftheskyline+%28ChicagoTribune+-+Cityscapes%29 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Lower Falls
I wish I could have done as you suggested. Yosemite has lots of trees as well, and they just get in the way sometimes. From that same location you can see both upper and lower falls, but can't get a real nice shot of them - perhaps I'll post what I did get. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, June 25, 2010, 2:52:21 PM, you wrote: ps I agree. The mist works nicely for you here. Great color and ps light as well. I might have liked it a bit more if the lower falls ps were moved to the left in frame and we saw more of the mist at ps upper right. Of course, I wasn't there, so it's just a guess. ps Paul ps On Jun 25, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: Lower Yosemite Falls. I like how the mist from Upper Falls is highlighted in the URH corner. Pentax K-x, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 50mm ISO 200, 1/200 sec @ f/5.0 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/imgp6552-1.htm Comments welcome -- Best regards, Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D
Yeah, someone had put a thinking cap on the well...
2010/6/25 Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com:
That's a slick idea.
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Let's just spread oil on troubled waters...
On 6/25/2010 8:11 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote:
Hey, let's not spill the beans.
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 5:06 AM, eckinatoreckina...@gmail.com wrote:
2010/6/25drd1...@gmail.com:
Yeah, but Congress would still base national policy on it.
OK let's give these figures to BP then...
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A*300mm and K23mm back from repair
I posted a while ago about my A*300mm being seemingly suddenly unable to
focus on objects further away than about 200 to 300 yards, and that I
had, (horrors), dropped my A 24mm f2.8, breaking it such that it seemed
beyond repair.
Well I sent the out for repair and they're back.
I haven't been able to test the 300mm thoroughly yet, but the A24mm
focuses again! While it will never mount a filter, the threads were
completely mangled, and the focus action is just a bit rougher than it
was, (if it hadn't been so smooth before it would hardly be worth
commenting on). It seems to work amazingly well.
The cost was very reasonable. More when I shoot some test shots.
At the moment I'm a very happy camper.
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