Re: New Pentax bridge camera: XG-1
Sorry to be rude, but "high grade design" with crappy 20 pix viewfinder and no RAW... really? Pentax X-5 was announced approximately two years ago and I don't see much (if any) improvements except longer zoom. X-5 is currently 179 eur in Estonia, XG-1 price is announced 299 eur. BR, Margus On 15.07.2014 9:55, Dario Bonazza wrote: The reason for branding it Pentax is explained in a sentence in the international press release: 'It boasts a stylish, high-grade design resembling PENTAX-brand SLR cameras.' So it has to resemble a Pentax DSLR, hence the Pentax name on top of other details. Dario -Messaggio originale- From: John Celio Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 3:23 AM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: New Pentax bridge camera: XG-1 http://www.dpreview.com/articles/2746892255/ricoh-announces-pentax-xg-1-superzoom What confuses me about this is that I thought Ricoh was going to have the Ricoh brand on compacts and the Pentax brand on SLRs. I wonder why they decided to call this one a Pentax. John -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: So, what happens if...
On 7.04.2014 0:16, Mark Roberts wrote: Margus Männik wrote: ... you try to use a new 1.4x TC with older camera body, like K20D? Just tried out and it works fine with both screw-drive and SDM lenses! :) Even my old trusted Z-1p was able to focus and seems (sorry, can not confirm 100%) to set the correct exposure. I'm sorry but you're just not living up to the doomsaying tradition here in Pentax land. Can't you come up with something more negative to report? ;-) Well... sure. It's too small for anyone to notice that you have just spent a lots of euros or dollars. Also it doesn't make you any better photographer. So it's pretty useless, heh? ;) BRM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: So, what happens if...
Hi Dario, I was a bit "afraid"of some stupid intentional technical limitation. SR seems to work fine. I haven't done proper comparison, but DA*300 gave me nice and sharp results without tripod, which I wouldn't expect without proper SR. Metadata is correct - wide open shot with DA*300/4 is described as f=420mm, f/5.6. VBR, Margus On 7.04.2014 0:20, Dario Bonazza wrote: Hi Margus, Thanks for trying, but I wasn't expecting problems about either focusing or exposure. The big question is: what about SR? That's the area where a proper firmware could make some noticeable difference, taking into account the resulting focal length. And what about exif matadata with the K20D? Cheers, Dario -Messaggio originale- From: Margus Männik Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 11:10 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: So, what happens if... you try to use a new 1.4x TC with older camera body, like K20D? Just tried out and it works fine with both screw-drive and SDM lenses! :) Even my old trusted Z-1p was able to focus and seems (sorry, can not confirm 100%) to set the correct exposure. VBR, Margus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
So, what happens if...
... you try to use a new 1.4x TC with older camera body, like K20D? Just tried out and it works fine with both screw-drive and SDM lenses! :) Even my old trusted Z-1p was able to focus and seems (sorry, can not confirm 100%) to set the correct exposure. VBR, Margus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-100D vs K-30 -- Noise at high ISO?
You are correct, I re-checked my image bank and found some great high-ISO winter scenes that I thought were shot with K-r, but are really made with K-x. BR, Margus On 20.02.2014 0:26, Larry Colen wrote: On Feb 19, 2014, at 1:35 PM, Margus Männik wrote: Sorry for a late reply, K30 is very un-noisy compared to K100D. I just took a look at my written reviews and sample images of both cameras. K30 images at ISO3200 are quite OK. K100D images do have visible digital noise and (depending on lighting conditions) may even have visible horizontal bands. There are also big differences in color accuracy and dynamic range. I'd say that Pentax K-r was the first to have greatly improved image quality at high ISO values. And K30 is a bit better than K-r. K-x was the one that made the big leap. When I got my K-x I nearly stopped using my K20. When I got my K-5 I kept the K-x and sold the K20. The K-r has some big functional advantages over the K-x, and a lot of small performance advantages. But, anything made after the K-x will be a huge improvement over the K100. BR, Margus On 9.02.2014 4:16, Glen Berry wrote: This is going to be a difficult question to answer without showing comparison images, but can anyone give me some sort of idea how noisy a K-30 is, compared to the much older K-100D? One of the things that bugs me the most about the older cameras like the K-100D, is the very noticeable noise at higher ISO's. With every step above ISO 200, I can notice additional noise in the image. I think ISO 3200 is horrible. I've read comments from folks who had much newer DSLR's of various brands, and some of those folks seem content with ISO 3200 on THEIR camera, and I think I've even read a few mentions of folks being satisfied with ISO 6400 for certain applications. So, how good is the K-30 with regards to high ISO noise, and try to compare it to an older model like the K-100D if you can. I'm hoping the K-30 will let me shoot a few stops higher ISO without sacrificing quality. Would that likely be correct? Thanks, Glen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-100D vs K-30 -- Noise at high ISO?
Sorry for a late reply, K30 is very un-noisy compared to K100D. I just took a look at my written reviews and sample images of both cameras. K30 images at ISO3200 are quite OK. K100D images do have visible digital noise and (depending on lighting conditions) may even have visible horizontal bands. There are also big differences in color accuracy and dynamic range. I'd say that Pentax K-r was the first to have greatly improved image quality at high ISO values. And K30 is a bit better than K-r. BR, Margus On 9.02.2014 4:16, Glen Berry wrote: This is going to be a difficult question to answer without showing comparison images, but can anyone give me some sort of idea how noisy a K-30 is, compared to the much older K-100D? One of the things that bugs me the most about the older cameras like the K-100D, is the very noticeable noise at higher ISO's. With every step above ISO 200, I can notice additional noise in the image. I think ISO 3200 is horrible. I've read comments from folks who had much newer DSLR's of various brands, and some of those folks seem content with ISO 3200 on THEIR camera, and I think I've even read a few mentions of folks being satisfied with ISO 6400 for certain applications. So, how good is the K-30 with regards to high ISO noise, and try to compare it to an older model like the K-100D if you can. I'm hoping the K-30 will let me shoot a few stops higher ISO without sacrificing quality. Would that likely be correct? Thanks, Glen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Pentax 70-200mm lens upcoming
It's more like Photorumors is taking care of Pentax, not Ricoh:) At last until the official announcement. VBR, Margus On 6.02.2014 18:31, Miserere wrote: Do Ricoh care about Pentax? I think they do! http://photorumors.com/2014/02/06/new-2014-pentax-k-mount-lens-roadmap-published-with-a-new-70-200mm-lens/ Cheers, —M. \/\/o/\/\ --> http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax 1.4x converter
We'll see... I wouldn't be much surprised if it actually can be used also with older bodies, even film-eating ones. VBR, Margus On 6.02.2014 1:26, Bruce Walker wrote: So now we know: $599.95 PR from Ricoh quoted by dpreview contradicts some of asahi man's info. Won't work with cameras older than K-7. Cameras will need firmware update. http://www.dpreview.com/news/2014/02/05/ricoh-announces-hd-pentax-da-af-1-4x-aw-rear-converter On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 10:25 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Additional converter details today from "asahi man": "TC is ready and works perfect,good quality,needs no firmware update,cause all IDs are in the TC." "Works with "all Pentax cams". Source(s): http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3618741?page=2#forum-post-53048033 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3618741?page=2#forum-post-53048808 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3618741?page=2#forum-post-53049630 On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Joseph McAllister wrote: Definitely not a Pentax product shot, beta or whatever. In about two weeks we'll find out for certain. I'm pretty sure you're wrong :) -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3 mirror/shutter sound
The loudness of the K-3 shutter is almost the same as K-5, but it sounds a bit different. Nothing metallic, nothing unpleasant, the tone is just a little bit higher. BR, Margus On 11/4/2013 12:50, Dario Bonazza wrote: Hi all, this is a question to anybody owning a K-5 (or K-5II/K-5IIs) and the new K-3. How do new and older cameras compare about their shooting sound? From those online videos floating around I have a bad feeling of a sharper and more metallic click of the K-3 (sort of K20D-ish) as opposed to the softer, well-damped sound of the K-5 series. Is that true or were they just distorced sound recordings in online videos? That's a very critical issue for the kind of shooting I usually do (theater and such) and could be decisive for a possible purchase on my side. Thanks a lot, Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HD PENTAX-DA 20-40mm F2.8-4 ED Limited DC WR
Superb! I'd really like to have this lens! Now, where's my *** TC they promised already i-dont-remember-how-many years ago? BR, Margus On 11/1/2013 15:40, Darren Addy wrote: HD PENTAX-DA 20-40mm F2.8-4 ED Limited DC WR http://photorumors.com/2013/10/31/two-new-pentax-lenses-to-be-announced-soon/#ixzz2jOv0efnN Weather sealed. This doesn't really trip my trigger, but it is nice to see one of the lenses on the "2013 or later" road map getting released. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT How many of these cameras have owned/own?
Well, a bit over 200 currently. I'm quite proud of my collection of soviet-era cameras. Also, I do have about 20 Pentax film cameras. For shooting - K-5, K20D and W30. BR, Margus BR, MargusOn 5/2/2013 11:09, Rob Studdert wrote: http://popchartlab.com/products/a-visual-compendium-of-cameras Me, 11 consisting of: Kodak Brownie, Olympus Pen, Leica M4, Nikon F2, Pentax 6x7, Pentax K1000, Pentax Auto 110, Nikon FM2, Contax RTS III, Mamiya 7II and Pentax K20D. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax releases data
Well, ok. What level of improvement could we theoretically expect? I've tried out most of the new currently available camera bodies. Most of 'em are not much different from K-5 in terms of focusing. Cameras of the same price range are often even worse, especially in accuracy of focusing. I would say, that some C* models in particular are fast, but not very accurate. When people are talking about "superior AF of the other brands" they very often do compare apples to the oranges (as you say in English). Either they are not even touched latest Pentaxes or they compare 'em to much more expensive models. We all have to admit - C* and N* flagships do have very good AF modules, they REALLY do. I had an opportunity to play a bit with Nikon D4 - it's really stellar. Times ago I had D3x set for a month - and it was not very easy to go back to my K20D afterwards. But can we really expect the same kind of performance from whatever Pentax body with ~1000-1500 EUR/USD pricetag? Wouldn't it be the same as to expect the freshly announced SuperTele lens at no more than 2000 EUR/USD? BR, Margus On 9/12/2012 05:20, Paul Stenquist wrote: It's not bad overall. But compared to some of the best cameras it's not great n low light, and it has trouble locking on a moving object -- which would suggest it's a bit slow. It's better than any of the other Pentax DSLRs, save for the K-7, which seems to be about the same. It's good enough for me most of the time, but better would be nice. Paul On Sep 11, 2012, at 9:20 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: In what way is the K-5 deficient in auto-focus? takes too long to get there, or doesnt get it right? cf the ist-d ? ann On 9/11/2012 20:25, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Sep 11, 2012, at 7:39 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote: On Sep 10, 2012, at 20:03 , John Francis wrote: Agreed. These new cameras aren't going to tempt many people to upgrade from a K-5. They're probably not intended to. The diiferences I spot on the K-5 II are: o Better auto-focus (this is the big one from where I'm sitting) But they never say how much better. If it isn't an "Industry Breakthrough" it is probably about the same as the K-10 to K-7 "improvement". Just a little bit. Ir'a hard to quantify improvements in autofocus, but the K-5 is definitely deficient in that regard, so I expect a substantial improvement. Hope I'm right. Paul o Improved rear LCD (brighter & sharper, but same size & resolution) Retina Display? o SDXC memory card compatibility (or was that added in a K5 firware upgrade?) Don't remember. Don't have any of the XC cards, nor do I need them. Yet. Everything else looks to be the same as the K-5. Am I forgetting anything? Nothing that hasn't already been moved back behind the green curtain. (OZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K-30 experience
Larry, LiveView is definitely improved comparing to K-5. Basically, I would compare it more or less to K-01, it also has Focus Peaking function etc. I wouldn't say LV in (near) darkness is stellar, but yes, it is better than before. Myself, I do use sometimes K-5 with flashlight set to focus assist mode. BR, Margus On 8/13/2012 18:27, Larry Colen wrote: On Aug 13, 2012, at 8:09 AM, Margus Männik wrote: Now I have walked a week with (literally) K-30 in one hand and K-5 in other. I wrote a review for our local press, but obviously I'm not going to translate the whole thing, but just want to share some points (and please forgive me if my English is not good enough). Margus, When I'm shooting in extremely low light, I frequently have to use live view to focus the K-5. However, I can't leave it in LV because it takes so long to actually take a picture in LV. How is the shooting experience with the K-30 in Live View? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Pentax K-30 experience
Now I have walked a week with (literally) K-30 in one hand and K-5 in other. I wrote a review for our local press, but obviously I'm not going to translate the whole thing, but just want to share some points (and please forgive me if my English is not good enough). + Nice body. I'm not very happy with K-7/K-5 body design (especially w/o battery grip attached) and K-30 feels better. First it looks a bit suspicious, but it's really comfortable in hand, even for a long carrying/shooting. + Two-wheel user interface. I've never liked single-wheel cameras like K-r (and many other). Considering the price, it's really nice feature. + Very good viewfinder and possibility to change focusing screen. Once again, I wouldn't expect those features from less-than-top-line camera, especially Pentax (who has such a short line of cameras). + The picture quality is nearly the same compared to K-5 under ~ISO 6400. I've really compared around 100 "parallel" shots and just sometimes K-5 images seem to have a tiny bit more dynamic range. At very high ISOs K-30 noise becomes more prominent and has different nature (rougher grain). Considering that Pentax K-5 have been named as the very best APS-C SLR, it seems that now the second best is also Pentax. + Video quality is superior to K-5. It's not much surprising as K-30 utilizes the same PRIME M processor that we've already seen in K-01. Focusing in video mode has made a significant leap forward compared both to K-5 and K-01. 0 Much praised modifications to focusing system are nearly unnoticeable. K-30 may be a bit more self-confident with SDM lenses, but can not drive older ones as fast as K-5. - Battery life is not impressive and there's no battery grip either. Of course, 450 shots per charging is not THAT bad, but serious enthusiasts will definitely need a spare battery. - Shutter is noisy, about the same as K20D. Continuous drive at 6 fps sounds quite scary. - Video soundtrack is mono and camera has no external mic connector. - Image buffer could be larger. Nowadays the memory chips are inexpensive, after all. All together, we have got an really impressive camera. IQ is much better than K20D and almost the same as K-5. My personal favorite is still K-5 (I need battery grip and don't care about video), but I'm quite sure many existing pentaxians will prefer K-30. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax
Rumors? No rumors, D-FA Macros, DA 35, DA40 Limited, DA*55, DA*60-250, DA*200, DA*300 all do cover 24x36 frame without problems. I have tested 'em all quite carefully with Z-1p body. Haven't developed the film with some DA40XS shots, but most probably this lens also has no significant vignetting at corners. BRM On 6/1/2012 19:28, Christine Nielsen wrote: Can you imagine the flapping that would have ensued, had they called the new 50 a DFA lens...? The FF contingent would have exhausted themselves long ago in all the excitement. Rumor has it that the DA 60-250 also covers FF nicely, after all :) -c (hopeful, but not holding my breath...) On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 12:03 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Not a lot of thoughts really. However if Pentax was really going to announce a FF K mount camera wouldn't the latest lens, the DA 50 f1.8 which is pretty much one of their 50mm designs going back to oh, I don't know the middle of the 20th century, and probably covers 24x36mm frames admirably, be designated a DFA lens? True it doesn't have an aperture ring, but it wouldn't be the first DFA lens to be released without one. In the event of a FF camera probably wiith a list price between $2500 and $3500 it wouldn't cannibalize many sales of the FA 50 f1.4 lens with that camera as the lens cost difference would be a fraction of the total package price. So either a.) Pentax marketing has their collective heads where the sun don't shine, or b.) there really isn't a FF camera that close in the pipeline. I'll not take any bets either way, since this is not necessarily an either or proposition. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Semi-OT: Image Viewing Software that works with PEF files?
Hi, IrfanView works fine with PEF files. And it's free. To install Lightroom (or whatever else software) you can use external (USB) DVD drive. I got my Samsung 8x DVD-writer for less than 50 euros about a year ago. For sure there are also cheaper units available. BR, Margus On 5/16/2012 23:55, John Sessoms wrote: A problem with my current laptop is it's really too big to fit into my camera bag. I'm musing a Netbook. The one I'm considering has 3 USB 2.0, "802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi CERTIFIED and 10/100 Ethernet LAN connectivity", 320GB hard-drive, 4GB DDR3, a "multi-in-1" reader and Windoze7 64bit for less than $400. Processor speed is kind of slow at 1.0Ghz & it shares main memory with the video processor (256MB dedicated to an ATI Radeon HD 6290). It might be where I can finally use Lightroom. It's supposed to work better with less memory than Photoshop does, but it got me to wondering if there is other image viewing/processing software I might consider instead. Other question - there's no CD/DVD, so how the heck would I install Lightroom? ... or whatever? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
How the camera should handle
Hi everyone, I'm writing here a review of K-01 and becoming more and more convinced that Marc Newson is an *. He managed to ruin a really nice picture-taking-machine. K-01 is technically extremely capable camera, but it handles like a brick, especially with 40mm XS lens. Recently I bought a camera just because of the design, how it looks and handles. Mr. Newson - watch and learn :) Warning: The Dark Side content http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/misc/CT90_003.jpg BR, Margus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Comments on the new lenses and Optio WG-2
And once again I have to ask - where is the 1.4x SDM teleconverter? They have planned it for years, what makes it is so hard to design / produce? 560mm sounds nice in theory, but in practice I rather would carry 60-250mm or 300mm (which I do have already) + a little high-quality TC. BRM On 2/8/2012 21:31, John Celio wrote: Since I just figured out how to get Gmail to work with the PDML, I'm pretty behind on all the latest gossip. I'd just like to add my two cents about all the new products Pentax has announced lately. (item list taken from http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/02/07/Pentax_In-development_lenses) 1. smc PENTAX-D FA645 90mm F2.8 I'm glad to see Pentax is showing more support for the 645D. I'll likely never own one, but it's nice to see it's not just a flash in the pan. 2. smc PENTAX-DA 560mm F5.6 OMG I WANT THIS LENS. Even though it's a stop slower than my K 500mm 4.5, I would kill for autofocus on a long tele like this. Too bad I'll probably never be able to afford it. However, if the price isn't too horrible, I might sell the K 500 and put that money towards this one. I'd sure miss the rifle sights on the K 500, though... 3. smc PENTAX-DA 50mm F1.8 I've been waiting for a lens like this for a long time. Even though I'd prefer the 55mm 1.4, there's no way I can afford it. I'll probably sell my FA 50mm 1.4 (and maybe my A 50mm 1.2, which I never use) to get this lens. 4. Q lenses TELEPHOTO ZOOM and MOUNT CAP LENS Although I'll probably not get a Q (too expensive!), I'm intrigued by this "mount cap lens" that is described thusly: "Eye-catching “body mount cap” design, along with a toy-camera-like visual effect." Does anyone else think it sounds like a pinhole lens? 5. A lens for the PENTAX K-01 This unnamed pancake lens reminded me to give my opinion of the K-01: What an ugly brick of plastic! Get rid of that designer, Pentax, and hire someone who knows how to make a camera. 6. Adapter Q for K mount lens This product was inevitable, but I'm glad they're releasing it relatively soon after the Q's introduction. I'm curious why it needs a "built-in shutter unit," though. 7. Optio WG-2 I want this camera. Seriously, I'm going to start saving for it as soon as I get back from Melbourne this May. Pentax's waterproof cameras have always been great (for P&S cameras, of course), and this one has all the features I want. I'm particularly glad they added another light to the macro lights around the lens. Now the lighting should be a bit more even all the way around the object. As long as none of these things I hope to buy turn out to be as much of a lemon as my DA* 16-50, I'll be happy. John Celio -- http://www.jacelio.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax to Release FF DSLR and APS-C MILC in 2012
Lens roadmap??? The freshest official one I have seen was... spring 2009? Or have I missed something? BR, Margus On 12/13/2011 02:18, Paul Stenquist wrote: Doesn't make much sense given the Pentax lens roadmap, but it's a conversation starter. On Dec 12, 2011, at 6:52 PM, Miserere wrote: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=40033351 I'm more inclined to believe the Mayan prophecy for the end of the World in 2012 than I am to believe the above, but I thought I should pass it along for your entertainment. Cheers, —M. \/\/o/\/\ --> http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Language Question
In Estonian it's "kaa-viis". "Viis" will be pronounced the similar way as English word "please". BR, Margus On 10/24/2011 03:15, Larry Colen wrote: I was wondering how "K-5" is pronounced in other languages. In English it's "Kay-five". Japanese, I'm guessing is "Kay-go" because it's Romanji on it. In Hebrew is it Kay-chamesh? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: In other news, Pentax Digital Photo Utility 4.33 has been released.
Well, actually you are not that alone. This software has it's weak points, but I still like it... I have made some comparisons with PS and Lightroom and Digital Photo Utility stands very well. In some areas (especially in lens specific corrections) it's better than Adobe counterparts. So I first convert all my IMPORTANT photos from RAW to 16-bit TIFF with DPU and only then use PS for further corrections. BR, Margus On 9/28/2011 21:46, P. J. Alling wrote: Yea, I know I'm probably the only one on the list using this software, but it's the only RAW converter for Pentax that A.) supports my K20D and B.) I can still coerce to work on my desktop, as I'm still running Win2K on it, and C.), I'm cheap and don't want to help support Adobe's continued takeover of the image processing arena. Just a cursory report. The installer no longer needs a properly labeled CD in a drive to install the update, (well that actually stopped a few versions ago but it's nice to see that it hasn't come back). My hacks to get the software to run on the Win2K box still work, (I always feel a bit of trepidation about updates, never know what might break). The main stated reasons on Pentax's site for the update has mostly to do with the 645D,GPS support, and improved noise reduction. However there seems to be an improvement in the speed of most imaging operations. Time will tell. All in all despite the UI being a bit quirky it's a worthy program especially since it's essentially free if you own a Pentax Camera. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Where are the rumors?
I would better like some nice rumors on future lenses. The bodies, especially K-5 are really good enough. So, where are the h*** are the SDM-capable TCs? Long-waited supertele lenses?? Fast wide-angles ??? Or at least DA* 16-50/2.8 Mk2 without any stupid problems... BR, Margus On 6/8/2011 22:52, Leon Altoff wrote: Isn't it about time for the rumors about the K5 replacement to start appearing? The K10 had a production run of 2 years but the K20 and K7 only ran for 1 year before being replaced. On that record the K3 ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Zenit
This shelf is just a small part of my collection of soviet cameras. Speaking of Zenits, I do have couple of Olympic ones (TTL, E) as well as other commemorative versions (there have been quite plenty of "special versions" for different Communist Party Congresses, October Revolution anniversaries etc.). All of those are carefully packed away to the boxes as I do prefer "pure" cameras on display. More cameras and less ideology, if you like :) BR, Margus On 05-Mar-11 10:33 PM, mike wilson wrote: On 05/03/2011 10:37, Margus Männik wrote: Well, memories, seventies... just two steps to go, door to open and... http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/shelf.jpg :) BR, Margus Excellent! No Olympics one? Boris the mention of the Zenit film camera brings back fond memories. I had one in the 70's as a second camera to my Ricoh using cheap off-brand Pentax screw mount lenses. I came across it the other day cleaning out some closets. I don't think I would use it today but the negatives from those days are around here somewhere. hmmm. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Zenit
Well, memories, seventies... just two steps to go, door to open and... http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/shelf.jpg :) BR, Margus Boris the mention of the Zenit film camera brings back fond memories. I had one in the 70's as a second camera to my Ricoh using cheap off-brand Pentax screw mount lenses. I came across it the other day cleaning out some closets. I don't think I would use it today but the negatives from those days are around here somewhere. hmmm. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What gear is on your "short list"?
OK, I'll keep my list really short: SDM-compatible 1.5x teleconverter. Hopefully it's coming soon. BR, Margus On 23-Jan-11 2:33 AM, Larry Colen wrote: With the exception of Godfrey, who sounds like he has achieved gear nirvana and sounds like he has all the gear he needs for the photos he takes, I think that most of us often run up against the limitations of what our skill can do with the gear that we have. And if we're honest with ourselves, skill is usually the limiting factor, sometimes it's the gear, and sometimes a certain piece of kit can compensate for our own personal limitations. For example, last night I was pushing the envelope of what I could do with the K-x photographing backlit musicians in an otherwise nearly dark room. I was sorely missing the improved sensor, focus assist light, and focus indicators of the K-r. I expect that most of us have gear wishlists that would make Bill Gates credit cards cringe in terror, we also probably have "short lists" of gear that we are planning on buying in the near future. Generally gear that fills particular needs, and which would make a noticeable difference in photos that we regularly shoot, or which would allow us to get photos that we simply can't get with the gear we have. What items are on your short list, and why? At the top of my shortlist is the K-5. I often find myself in situations where even 2/3 stop of performance makes a big difference in the photos that I can take. Likewise, there are times when improved autofocus would also help. It would also be a lot more convenient for me to have all the features that I need for different scenarios, in the same camera, rather than being split between two cameras. My K-x could go back to wearing the DA40 and living in my fannypack as my "pocket camera", and the K-5 could be my primary camera, and stay in my big bag, rather than aways carrying both in the big bag. I've found that when shooting action, where people are moving around, a zoom lens can make a huge difference. When I'm photographing aikido, I find that I need wider lenses when people are defending themselves against multiple attackers, and the action covers a large portion of the mat, and moves around a lot. But when only two people are practicing, and they aren't moving around a lot, my 50mm isn't quite long enough. I suspect that a 28-105/2.8 would pretty much cover what I need, but since I don't know of one of those the 28-75/2.8 is probably the closest to what I need. Alternatively, if I were shooting with two cameras, I could get the 50-135 on one body, and the 16-50 on another. I think that the 50-135 would do also do well with the band photography I've been doing, considering how often I'm using my 77 or 135 for closeups. The runner ups for my short list are: DA35 macro : I love my DA40 for its size and sharpness, but when I carry it as a walk around lens, especially on hikes in the woods, I often find myself wishing it were a bit wider, and focused a bit closer. Samyang 85/1.4 : I'm still hurting over the A* 85/1.4 that the guys wife sold at work while I was waiting for him to get home from running his errands. I keep needing that little bit extra shutter speed. I'd love a modern f/1.4 lens in the 75-90mm range, but I doubt that I'd be able to afford it before sensors got so fast that I no longer needed that speed. Sigma 30/1.4 : My FA31/1.8 may be a better lens, but again, I often find myself wishing I had that extra 2/3 of a stop of speed, so that I could bump my shutter speed up from 1/10 to 1/15 second. Something wider than 16mm. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Russian names required.
Katastrofa :) BR, Margus On 12/08/2010 12:56 AM, drd1...@gmail.com wrote: I like Katrina. What better name for a kat? -Original Message- From: Margus Männik Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 00:26:42 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT: Russian names required. Hi, just some remarks, In russian, tsaritsa would be correct. Catherine is foreign name for russians that have been adapted as Katarina. BR, Margus On 12/07/2010 3:00 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: How about "Catherine"? Tsarina is also cute and, for a cat, probably appropriate. On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 7:25 AM, eckinator wrote: how about looking for names of famous / historically relevant russian church bells? I know many German church bells have names and many have a long and well documented history so I'd think it would be much the same for Russia cheers ecke 2010/12/7 Leon Altoff: Hi Everyone, We are about to buy a female Russian Blue cat and want a Russian name for her. We are buying her with money earned from ringing church bells for weddings and thought that a bell related name would be appropriate. The only problem is that no one we know speaks any Russian. Is there anyone on the list who speaks Russian and can provide me with the Anglicised spelling (and correct pronunciation) of Russian words for "bell", "wedding", "church" and anything related that would make a nice name for a Russian Blue cat? Many thanks in advance. Leon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Russian names required.
Hi, as I already wrote, traditional russian female names should end with an "a". BTW, a word "mig" means (besides the famous abbreviation for Mikoyan-Gurevich airplanes) "moment" in russian. BR, Margus On 12/07/2010 5:23 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: How about MIG? On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 8:18 AM, eckinator wrote: or for the Canadian list members: poutinequebelle ]=P 2010/12/7 eckinator: Putinkerbell =) 2010/12/7 Ann Sanfedele: Leon Altoff wrote: Hi Everyone, We are about to buy a female Russian Blue cat and want a Russian name for her. We are buying her with money earned from ringing church bells for weddings and thought that a bell related name would be appropriate. The only problem is that no one we know speaks any Russian. Is there anyone on the list who speaks Russian and can provide me with the Anglicised spelling (and correct pronunciation) of Russian words for "bell", "wedding", "church" and anything related that would make a nice name for a Russian Blue cat? Many thanks in advance. Leon Ninotchka would be , I think, the perfect name for a female Russian cat - certainly related to "love" at least And lots of people who don't speak Russian will still get it :-) Ann - movie fan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Russian names required.
Hi Leon, Quite a long list of russian female cat names can be found here: http://www.charodey.com/names.php?p=r Keep in mind, that actually not all of 'em are really russian names. The words you asked: Bell = kolokol. It's not good, because traditional russian female names end with "a" (with only one known exception). Wedding = svadba. Well, if you do like it... Church = cerkov / hram. Again, not good words as a name, especially female name. For Russian Blue I would suggest Zafira (sapphire in spanish, but also used as a female name in Russia) or Marina (sea blue, also very common russian female name). BTW, in russian, mother-in-law is tjoshja (can you spell it?) :) I do speak and read russian without problems, so feel free to ask if you do need more help. BR, Margus (with two Scottish Folds) On 12/07/2010 2:21 PM, Leon Altoff wrote: Hi Everyone, We are about to buy a female Russian Blue cat and want a Russian name for her. We are buying her with money earned from ringing church bells for weddings and thought that a bell related name would be appropriate. The only problem is that no one we know speaks any Russian. Is there anyone on the list who speaks Russian and can provide me with the Anglicised spelling (and correct pronunciation) of Russian words for "bell", "wedding", "church" and anything related that would make a nice name for a Russian Blue cat? Many thanks in advance. Leon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Russian names required.
Hi, just some remarks, In russian, tsaritsa would be correct. Catherine is foreign name for russians that have been adapted as Katarina. BR, Margus On 12/07/2010 3:00 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: How about "Catherine"? Tsarina is also cute and, for a cat, probably appropriate. On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 7:25 AM, eckinator wrote: how about looking for names of famous / historically relevant russian church bells? I know many German church bells have names and many have a long and well documented history so I'd think it would be much the same for Russia cheers ecke 2010/12/7 Leon Altoff: Hi Everyone, We are about to buy a female Russian Blue cat and want a Russian name for her. We are buying her with money earned from ringing church bells for weddings and thought that a bell related name would be appropriate. The only problem is that no one we know speaks any Russian. Is there anyone on the list who speaks Russian and can provide me with the Anglicised spelling (and correct pronunciation) of Russian words for "bell", "wedding", "church" and anything related that would make a nice name for a Russian Blue cat? Many thanks in advance. Leon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 Focusing Speed -- My Opinion
Hi, at least the motor spare part codes are different :) BR, Margus On 12/06/2010 5:58 PM, Miserere wrote: On 6 December 2010 10:06, P. J. Alling wrote: I read your description, otherwise I have no opinion, I'm still using a K20D. The difference in motor sound could be accounted for from the difference in body composition. I was wondering about that, but they don't sound similar. Anyone else think the different bodies can change the sound so much? —M. \/\/o/\/\ --> http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 Focusing Speed -- My Opinion
Hi, I'd like to say some words about the difference between K20D and K-5. Often I do test cameras head-to-head i.e. I do use both at the same conditions simultaneously. This time I used the other way and abandoned my "old trusty" K20D for a three days. Completely. Simply took K-5 and got used to it. Then returned to K20D and (oh boy) there WAS a difference. Human mind is strange - it doesn't notice slight (and even not-so-slight) changes to better side, but if something goes a even bit worse... In short - K20D now feels noisy, slow and loud. Focusing with SDM-lenses hunts much more and is clearly slower (16-50, 50-135, 60-250). With screw-driven lenses (FA50/1.4, DA35/2.4, DA40 Limited etc.) the difference is marginal. And still, K20D feels more comfortable in my hand than K-5. BR, Margus On 12/06/2010 4:05 PM, Miserere wrote: As part of my on-going K-5 review, I updated the focusing section: http://enticingthelight.com/2010/12/01/review-pentax-k-5/#focusing My conclusions about focusing speed seem to differe from everyone else's. Opinions welcomed! Cheers, —M. \/\/o/\/\ --> http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: White Balance on K-7
Hi, I've experienced the same problem and it seems that Tungsten WB is not fixed WB setting. Instead, it tries to adopt to lighting conditions. Shooting JPEG, try fixed K value instead - for me it have been worked fine. Of course, RAW would be the best (but a bit more time-consuming) solution. BR, Margus On 11/29/2010 9:18 PM, P N Stenquist wrote: On Nov 29, 2010, at 1:57 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Mon Nov 29 09:52:30 CST 2010 P N Stenquist wrote: On Nov 29, 2010, at 10:39 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Hi All, While shooting an argentine tango performance over the weekend I set the WB of my K-7 to "Tungsten light". I was surprised to see that while ~80% of shots were with about the right color, some considerable number of shots had a distinctive. It was not as red as it would have been if I left the WB to be on Auto, but still yellow. All the shots were taken under the same condition: in the same room, from the same point, with no light changing, just the couple moving. More over,- some series of shots were made with the the couple in place ,- and some have the WB alright, and some - are yellow. Has anybody experienced anything of this sort? What could be the reason (besides some malfunction of the camera)? What fills the frame affects white balance. If the dancers were blocking some of the light on some shots and more fully lit on others, you'll get some variation of color temp. Easy enough to correct during conversion. Paul Paul, Yes, that could do it in principle, but it doesn't make sense in the current situation. Since I _fixed_ the WB to a particular setting, very slight changes shouldn't affect the WB. To better illustrate what I observe, - let me show you this image: http://komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Mixed-2010/WB-problem-2010-11-27.jpg No WB or exposure settings were changed in this sequence. These photos were not modified. Yes, one can correct the WB, but it is not how it should work, isn't it? Igor You're right. Something is out of whack here. I never shoot anything expect AWB and RAW, so I can't tell you if my camera shares this problem. When I have time, I'll give it a try under some tungsten lighting. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Stop buying K-5s...new lens(es) !!
I know about Contax, I've even tested it years ago. AX autofocus wasn't simply slow, it was a disaster. Still it doesn't mean that in-body AF couldn't be done better - especially if we consider that instead of film mechanism there's only a sensor to move. After all, weight comparison between lens (group) and sensor chip is the cornerstone of in-body SR. How many people said "it can not be done" before Pentax engineers just came and did it? BR, Margus On 11/11/2010 11:58 PM, Adam Maas wrote: 2010/11/11 Margus Männik: Want some crazy suggestion? ;) Future Pentax bodies will have in-body autofocus. It's much faster to move a light sensor than tons of glass. And you'll have AF with any K-mount lens (and others that you can mount via adapters) ever produced. Great, isn't it? Why it still has a focus-ring... hmm, well, it's for a backward compatibility and manual focus, of course. BR, Margus In body AF has been done (Contax AX), it's MUCH faster to move the glass and far less trouble to keep aligned. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Stop buying K-5s...new lens(es) !!
Want some crazy suggestion? ;) Future Pentax bodies will have in-body autofocus. It's much faster to move a light sensor than tons of glass. And you'll have AF with any K-mount lens (and others that you can mount via adapters) ever produced. Great, isn't it? Why it still has a focus-ring... hmm, well, it's for a backward compatibility and manual focus, of course. BR, Margus On 11/10/2010 2:45 AM, paul stenquist wrote: Pretty damn close. I'd guess that the lens in the photo posted by Jaume is a PhotoShopped version of the old A* lens. Can't see why Pentax would bo back to an A* designation. It doesn't appear to be a contemporary lens in any way. Paul On Nov 9, 2010, at 7:10 PM, Phil Northeast wrote: On 10/11/10 10:53 AM, paul stenquist wrote: Hmmm. It's marked Pentax A*. Doesn't sound like a new lens. But I'd like a 135/1.8. Great lens for shooting performs in clubs. Paul Oh, and keep the rumors coming. They're not the least bit tedious. On Nov 9, 2010, at 6:32 PM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote: Please, tell me if I am too tedious with this: http://k-rumors.com/pentax-lens-group-foto-unveils-new-lenses/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Here is details of an older version http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/lenses/primes/tele/A135f1.8.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Starting in Range Finder world, advise sought
Hi, Frank is right. It means that some quantity or value (like the readout of the instrument) has nothing to do (or very loose connection) with reality. I do not know the roots of this saying, but it have been used here for quite a long time. Most probably it's a translation from russian. When I studied in university (I have engineering diploma in electronics) we had also a derivative from it called Tambov Constant (or simply "tambov" in short). Only years later we found out, that Western world uses identical Skinner's Constant instead. By definition it is "That quantity which, when multiplied, divided into, added to, or subtracted from the answer you got, give you the answer you should have gotten". BR, Margus On 09/24/2010 6:06 AM, Miserere wrote: 2010/9/23 Margus Männik: Just one warning - Kiev RF lightmeters very commonly do indicate the price of firewood on Tambov market. Margus, You're going to have to explain that one! --M. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Starting in Range Finder world, advise sought
Boris, there's no actual reason to be afraid of soviet Zorki and Kiev cameras - they're actually pretty good and inexpensive (at least here in Estonia). I have a whole collection of fully working russoleicas and commucontaxes (ca. 40 different models + a long row of lenses) and I'd say - if the camera haven't been seriously abused, there's usually no problem. Very often simple CLA works wonders. My personal favourite for photographing have been one of my Zorki-4K's. Before I got it, the camera was not used for about 15 years. Despite I haven't even cleaned or lubricated anything, I've had zero problems. Other late Zorkis (like Zorki-6) and Kievs are also fine for taking pictures. Just one warning - Kiev RF lightmeters very commonly do indicate the price of firewood on Tambov market. Mechanically they're usually ok. OTOH, I would avoid FEDs. Those were designed to be as cheap as possible from the beginning and quite often do act accordingly, especially the ones from 70s to 80s. BR, Margus On 09/16/2010 2:09 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! I am thinking I should repeat my experience with the rangefinder (film) camera. Is there anyone willing to enable or even lend me(*) a camera with most basic lens, say 50/2.8 or 35/2.8, so that I could try this thing. Ideally, I'd like to avoid Russian Leica clones because I know from the first hand experience that they are very variable in their reliability. Any hints, pointers, suggestions will be most welcome. Thanks in advance. Boris (*) Of course I will pay you, if you lend me your rangefinder camera. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Opinions on the FAJ 18-35 for film use.
Hi Adam, I bought one at 2003 for my Z-1p and continued to use it with digital bodies (until the DA* series arrived). It have served fine. Of course it has more distortion and is not as sharp as top lenses, but I've never said "this lens is a crap, why did I had to spend my money". The other FAJ lenses, sorry to say, are quite crappy. First I was worried about the plastic mount, but after all those years it's still fully intact. I have also tested it head-to-head against early DA18-55 kit lens (with K10D) and liked FAJ much more then A. In a short - better geometry and less vignetting. Overall, it's surprisingly decent lens. It's much better than you would presume. BR, Margus Adam Maas wrote: I know it's cheaply built, but I've got one offered to me at a very reasonable price and it would make a nice wide zoom option for my Z-1p. Sadly funds do not currently extend to a FA 20 or FA 20-35 which would be my preferred choice. So, how is it on film? -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ultra-wide zooms
Hi there, I have tested DA15 Limited vs DA14 some time ago (wrote a review). Many have said that DA14 is better simply because it is a stop faster. Me personally, I would avoid it at f/2.8 unless absolutely necessary. Test it as much as you like - it's still soft and vignetting full open. At f/4 it's much better and outperforms DA15 Limited a bit. At f/5.6 there was no difference between 'em. Is it worth to have a MUCH larger and heavier lens, that performs quite sluggish full-open? One more thing - I never use DA14 without a hood. Never, even indoors. DA15 Limited also needs protection from side-light, but at least the hood is built-in. The conclusion? If I wouldn't already own the DA14, I'd go for DA15 Limited. BR, Margus Adam Maas wrote: All the reviews I've read indicate a slight decrease in performance for the 15/4 over the 14/2.8 at the edge, which is consistent with the design differences. While the 15 is slower, it's also a far less complex (8/6) design than the 14 is (12/11) so it will remain less well corrected. The differences in focal length is very minor and won't have a serious impact on the design complexity. -Adam On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:31 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: I read a review on the da15 and they said it outperformed the earlier da14 lens, which wouldn’t surprise me, its not as wide and slower than the da14. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Join the CD PLAYER & DISC Discussions : http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Adam Maas Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 9:12 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Ultra-wide zooms New design, optimized for size over performance. Quite a good lens, but inferior in performance to both the DA 14/2.8 and DA 12-24/4. Smaller than a FA 50/1.4 though. Like the DA 21/3.2 it's marginally inferior to the older and larger equivalent design. -Adam On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 8:51 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: what about the DA 15mm? -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Join the CD PLAYER & DISC Discussions : http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 7:32 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Ultra-wide zooms Unfortunatly it hasn't been done. Most prime designs are at least 10 years old. In the case of the DA 40mm limited it looks like it's about thirty years old, (see the M 40mm f2.8). On 4/15/2010 1:35 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: How many times do I have to tell you to make the point? A zoom has to do much more than a prime so the zoom cannot be "better" or even equal to a prime with BOTH using state of the art designs and optics, period. Whatever they do to improve zoom performance over the years can also be applied to primes. the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I-10 Review
John Sessoms wrote: From: Margus M?nnik Somewhy many people think "wow, it looks so good, so it has to be also very smart". No, I-10 is technically quite an average compact. But it still looks cool :) For me, Optio I-10 is one of the very few things (and the only camera) in my life that I have bought purely because how it looks. BR, Margus P. J. Alling wrote: > No, I didn't write it. Unfortunately it confirms pretty much what I > expected. > > http://www.neutralday.com/pentax-optio-i-10-digital-compact-camera-in-depth-review/ > > I think a lot of people see the "retro" styling and expect it to be a digital Auto-110. They're disappointed when they find out it's not. For being "digital Auto110" I-10 should have 1) interchangeable lenses, 2) decent optical viewfinder and 3) larger sensor. Right now it is just a compact camera with cool body and should be treated like one. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I-10 Review
Somewhy many people think "wow, it looks so good, so it has to be also very smart". No, I-10 is technically quite an average compact. But it still looks cool :) For me, Optio I-10 is one of the very few things (and the only camera) in my life that I have bought purely because how it looks. BR, Margus P. J. Alling wrote: No, I didn't write it. Unfortunately it confirms pretty much what I expected. http://www.neutralday.com/pentax-optio-i-10-digital-compact-camera-in-depth-review/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Optio i-10
Optio is I-10 like a fairy tale princess - a real beauty, but not too smart. Not as dumb as Amazon reviewer said, just ... a bit retarded. BR, Margus Joe Wilensky wrote: I really wanted to like this camera, but what a disappointment ... this is the review I put up on amazon.com. I'm surprised there's nothing else out there yet on this camera at all, considering the interest it sparked around the Web when the design and images of it were released back in January. But there's only my review on the black one and (oddly and separately) one person's review on the white one at amazon.com ... "Wow, I wanted to love this camera ... the aesthetics/design got me as soon as I saw the first images released back in January. I have enough old Pentaxes (including an Auto 110 Super) to really appreciate the retro look, styling and old-style logo. The form factor was actually quite nice, with a good balance, small but really nice right-hand grip, and a pleasant grippy texture. It was a bit light (plasticky) for its size. But the picture-taking experience -- slow, slow, slow, at least by 2010 standards. I think the 2004 PowerShot I have is faster. Flash photos were terribly slow because of the preflash, which seemed to add an extra second and a half to the process. And images were soft overall, but softer as you zoom anywhere near the telephoto end. Noise and speckling was apparent at nearly all ISO speeds. As far as positives about image quality, in bright daylight, at 80 ISO (the sensor's base speed), images weren't bad and the lens did show good flare resistance. Videos were technically HD, but at quality poor enough that it didn't seem to be worth the higher spec. Zoom in video mode is only available as digital zoom, which degrades image quality immediately. Sliding battery cover was very fragile and seemed prone to become misaligned and I was very, very careful with it; I would always worry about its durability. I didn't get to check out any of the really fancy features like pet face recognition. Human face recognition seemed to work reasonably well, though the photos weren't necessarily better exposed because of it. In fact, basic flash photos/snapshots seemed washed out, with very muted colors. All in all, a very big disappointment. I knew it had fairly average camera specs (fairly run-of-the mill point-and-shoot specs for a 2010 p&s) with a cool design, but the photo quality was such a step backward from anything else I'm using today that I had to return it." Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: fun stuff .. Pentax 110 lenses on Micro-FourThirds
Guys, don't blame me, you gave me this idea... If they can do it with some junky Panasonic, I can do it with Pentax. Adapter? Phew, it's for weenies :) We ALL know, DA40 Limited lenscap / shade fits K-bayonet (somehow) from its wider end and Auto110 bayonet (a bit better) from the other. What holds it all together? Fingers! Yes, as always, there are some shortcomings. Da Vincis helicopter didn't fly a bit, but everyone's thinking oldster had an ingenious idea. Focus... err... you can move the camera. No aperture... err... it's not some C, it's good right from wide open. It's... whatever, it works.:) The Image: http://nagi.ee/photos/haramount/14496591/in-set/256079/ The Monster (fingers not included): http://nagi.ee/photos/haramount/14496589/in-set/256079/ BR, Margus Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Thought some folks would get a kick out of this ... http://www.flickr.com/groups/1084...@n23/discuss/72157623543813407/ Godfrey -- a photo blog: http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Not THAT similar
Hi, you may take a look at the photos I uploaded to different server: http://nagi.ee/photos/haramount/sets/256079/?picture_type=t&start=0 Don't get me wrong - I'm not complaining and I really do like I-10. In my opinion, it is one of the few (if not the only) compacts that look like a camera, not a soapbox. Just when you take it to you hand together with Auto 110, it feels pretty much different from Auto 110. As I said, they are similar, but not THAT similar :) BR, Margus John Celio wrote: got my white Optio I-10 today. It's the first piece of photo equipment in my life that I have purchased purely because of the look. I really like it. Many people have described it as "Auto 110"'ish, but when you put it together with Auto 110, the similarity is much less than expected. http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/ The cameras can't really be that similar in size, can they? Could you post a side-by-side pic without resizing? I'd be most interested in seeing that. Thanks, John -- http://www.jacelio.com http://www.cafepress.com/jacelio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Not THAT similar
Hi, got my white Optio I-10 today. It's the first piece of photo equipment in my life that I have purchased purely because of the look. I really like it. Many people have described it as "Auto 110"'ish, but when you put it together with Auto 110, the similarity is much less than expected. http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/ BR, Margus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Optio WS80
Scott Loveless wrote: Anybody got one? Opinions? I have tested shortly (a week) both W80 and WS80. I do own W30. S stands for a Style and so it is. WS looks better, but the technically W offers more. It has better quality lens and it handles more like a real camera. I was trying to find a good reason to replace my W30 and IMNHO - I did not found one. I'll better save that money for white I-10 :) BR, Margus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Less than a month to wait...
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Re: PESO Two Dogs, 1987 pano
BTW, you boys and girls should find out what a word "pano" means in finnish (informal) language :) Hint 1: those dogs... Hint 2: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pano BR, Margus Toine wrote: 1987? Did you shoot with a pano in mind? I remember seeing panoramas in those years and allways wondered how it was done. Nice pano, Toine On 8 February 2010 12:30, Rob Studdert wrote: Hi Team, I thought I'd share a little pano that I recently discovered. The source images were probably shot on my SuperA about 1987 as discrete images but they were made to stitch. It's the Eden Wharf at Eden which is close to the boarder of the states of NSW and Victoria on the east coast of Aus. I hadn't really noticed what was in the shots until I made the pano, gave me a chuckle at least. http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/EDEN3.jpg Enjoy Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On CD media longevity
Hi Boris, It's actually a very good result for those non-archival CD-blanks. I burned my first CDs at 1994 and all of 'em are in very good shape. It seems that we had the very first CD-burner here in Estonia - an external 1x speed Pinnacle SCSI device. That time there was no "blue" media, the "golden" ones were "noble"... and damn expensive. I should have one or two unused golden blanks still somewhere, but modern drives are not able to write to 'em. BR, Margus Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! Some 8 years ago I converted some of my CDs to MP3 and burned them onto CDs for sake of listening away from home, etc. Today finally one of these CDs bit the dust. It is marked "Feb 2002" so that it is likely almost exactly 8 years old. Since the time it's been burned, it was stored on the shelf, used in my office, thrown around at least two company cars(*) that had MP3 capable CD player, etc. Pretty tough little fellow, that CD was... It is worth mentioning here that it was made by Verbatim and has very noble and very deep bluish tint with so many a scratch on its working surface... Boris (*) Of course it was thrown around without any reasonable protection, a box or a sleeve... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Where else...
...in the world you get your prints from the largest retailer in the paper bag like this? Even if you are a C*n*n shooter... http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/ BR, Margus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax DFA Macro 100mm F2.8 WR
No, there is no adapter included. User Manual says no word about it. My best guess is, that AF160 will attach to the metal barrel (bayonet). IMO, F 100 Macro wasn't quite a tank compared to FA100 Macro. DFA 100 Macro WR is more compact and feels at least as solid as FA. VBR, Margus Toine wrote: Does it include a adapter for the af160 ringflash? The specs say it does but how does it attach, to the outer aluminium barrel or the inner plastic barrel? My F100macro is build like a tank. Is this one as solid? Toine 2010/1/30 Margus Männik : Very first impressions: + it's extremely sharp + it's very well built + it's surprisingly compact + it covers 24x36mm frame (even the box says: Digital & Film) + it's weather-proofed + the front lens is placed a bit inside the barrel (barrel end acts like a short hood) + manual focusing is smooth and firm 0 nice metal barrel screams for Limited-style front cap 0 the bayonet hood is plastic, not metal 0 49mm filter size (it seems that several quality brands start from 52mm size nowadays) - as it's screw-drive-only, the focusing is slow - there is no focus distance limiter (which makes focusing even slower) - there is no aperture ring - inner (extending) barrel is plastic BR, Margus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax DFA Macro 100mm F2.8 WR
Let me explain a bit. Those "minuses" don't mean that the lens would be unusable or bad. Aperture ring. If the box says "digital & film" it should work with (at least latest) film bodies. Yes, I do have Z-1p and therefore shouldn't actually care about, but as reviewer it is my duty to notice such details. Lack of limiter is actually a bit more serious. Macro means close-focusing ability, not that the lens is suitable for shooting little things only. They're also very good for portraits, landscapes etc. So the focus hunting in close-up range is pretty annoying. Especially in combination with such a limited-speed AF. Maybe (and once again - maybe), if the lens would have SDM, lack of the limiter would be rather irrelevant. Unfortunately I can not answer your main question - here in Estonia the new 100mm Macro WR is freely available (in stores, not order) from our Pentax dealer. Sometimes I get the new lenses and bodies a bit earlier (to review 'em before they hit outlets), but this time I got my sample the very same day as the stores. VBR, Margus Leon Altoff wrote: Margus, None of your minuses bother me, particularly the lack of a delimiter - mine will always be in the macro range (it is a macro lens after all) and aperture ring (I seem to have completely given up on film despite having an MX and MZ-S sitting looking at me all the time). My only question is where did you get it and when can I get mine? Leon 2010/1/31 Margus Männik : Very first impressions: + it's extremely sharp + it's very well built + it's surprisingly compact + it covers 24x36mm frame (even the box says: Digital & Film) + it's weather-proofed + the front lens is placed a bit inside the barrel (barrel end acts like a short hood) + manual focusing is smooth and firm 0 nice metal barrel screams for Limited-style front cap 0 the bayonet hood is plastic, not metal 0 49mm filter size (it seems that several quality brands start from 52mm size nowadays) - as it's screw-drive-only, the focusing is slow - there is no focus distance limiter (which makes focusing even slower) - there is no aperture ring - inner (extending) barrel is plastic BR, Margus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Pentax DFA Macro 100mm F2.8 WR
Very first impressions: + it's extremely sharp + it's very well built + it's surprisingly compact + it covers 24x36mm frame (even the box says: Digital & Film) + it's weather-proofed + the front lens is placed a bit inside the barrel (barrel end acts like a short hood) + manual focusing is smooth and firm 0 nice metal barrel screams for Limited-style front cap 0 the bayonet hood is plastic, not metal 0 49mm filter size (it seems that several quality brands start from 52mm size nowadays) - as it's screw-drive-only, the focusing is slow - there is no focus distance limiter (which makes focusing even slower) - there is no aperture ring - inner (extending) barrel is plastic BR, Margus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Optio I-10 sure looks cute
John Sessoms wrote: From: Charles Robinson http://www.dpreview.com/news/1001/10012505pentaxoptioi10.asp I wonder how it is to handle? I wonder if the photo quality is any good? But it sure looks neato. :-) Oh ho!! Don't guess it will take my old Auto-110 lenses though, will it. Dream on :) I have also the whole box full on of those... BTW, just compared the specs and noticed, that it's bigger than Auto110. BR, Margus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Optio I-10 sure looks cute
Damn! This is exactly how Unexpected Expense looks like... BR, Margus http://www.dpreview.com/news/1001/10012505pentaxoptioi10.asp I wonder how it is to handle? I wonder if the photo quality is any good? But it sure looks neato. :-) -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why Pentax?
It's simple - Canon consumer cameras (especialy their user interfaces) do suck even more and we can not afford comparable piles of Nikkor glass. Olympus is no-no. Sony has all the same "sucking problems" as Pentax does plus some extra. Also, we already happen to have Pentaxes and as all those brand-changes are simply a form of financial suicide, we take pictures with 'em. The most surprising part is, that we don't take any less GOOD pictures than C, N, O or S owners (at least I don't get less good shots with my K20D than all those fancy otherbranders and darksiders that I review every month). BR, Margus Igor Roshchin wrote: In view of various comments from people about K-7 and K-x, I've been thinking, - why am I shooting with Pentax? This is a summary of my thoughts - I'd like to hear what others think about this. In the past few weeks I realized that compared to other brand DSLR's Pentax DSLRs (even the "flagman" K-7) has serious problems. In crude terms: 1. The AF sucks. 2. The low-light performance sucks. 3. The P-TTL performance is inconsistent (I don't know how I-TTL/E-TTL etc. are in that regard - any comments?) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: low light autofocus
It doesn't have a dedicated light source like K-7, but the raised internal flash acts as an AF assist lamp. BR, Margus paul stenquist wrote: On Jan 10, 2010, at 3:32 PM, Margus Männik wrote: I had an opportunity to shoot in the dim winter forest with all those three bodies some weeks ago. Honestly said, K-7 is quite a small improvement in terms of low-light AF. K-x is much more significant step ahead. Does Kx have the low light autofocus assist that the K7 has? I found that for shooting events like wedding receptions in low-light the K7 autofocus is far better than the K20. With the K20 I had to resort to manual focus -- or when too dim -- focus by lens barrel markings. The K7 seems to be able to handle focus in a rather dark room. Paul BR, Margus Adam Maas wrote: On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Gonz wrote: Is there any combination of Pentax body/lens (digital) that does relatively well in low light? I took my K20D and K200D to a wedding and the autofocus sucked in a big way with the both a DA 12-24 and an FA 50 1.4. I tried to focus manually when I noticed about 1/2 of my shots were out of focus, but my eyes dont do well in bright light let alone low light. -gonz Not really. The K-7 and K-x are definite improvements but no Pentax body has really good AF. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: low light autofocus
I had an opportunity to shoot in the dim winter forest with all those three bodies some weeks ago. Honestly said, K-7 is quite a small improvement in terms of low-light AF. K-x is much more significant step ahead. BR, Margus Adam Maas wrote: On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Gonz wrote: Is there any combination of Pentax body/lens (digital) that does relatively well in low light? I took my K20D and K200D to a wedding and the autofocus sucked in a big way with the both a DA 12-24 and an FA 50 1.4. I tried to focus manually when I noticed about 1/2 of my shots were out of focus, but my eyes dont do well in bright light let alone low light. -gonz Not really. The K-7 and K-x are definite improvements but no Pentax body has really good AF. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Short tele complement to DA16-45?
Definitely get a DA70. It's amazing lens. BR, Margus gldnbearz wrote: Let's say you have a DA16-45. Love the colors, love the 16mm, don't mind the "reverse" zoom ring, but it's just a *little* short at 45mm. Already have the DA 55-300 or 50-135. Options for when I don't want to use the long tele zooms (usually I'm indoors & need just a little more reach, but I can't walk up to the subject): 1) get a DA 17-70 to replace 16-45 (pros: longer zoom range, SDM quietness, same constant f/4 as the 16-45, has a "normal" zoom ring, has a rebate since I bought the K-7; cons: heavier & larger than the 16-45, it's SDM only; long term SDM reliability, some users complain of softness btwn 50-70mm) 2) get a DA 70 (pros: small size, complements the DA 21 & DA40, slightly better in low light at f/2.4; cons: funky lens cap/hood combination, price?) If you have the DA16-45, what is your short tele option? I'm not looking to replace the 16-45; it works and it's been a great bang for the buck. I've been going back & forth on this for a bit and would like to see what others think. TIA, Pat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-x and high-ISO performance???
Why... to get to know, that K-7 successor will be worth of buying. There is technical progress going on, you know. Besides, our K20Ds didn't got any worse with appearance f K-7 and K-x... Pentax K-x has it's good sides, but in other areas it's still not comparable with K-7. BR, Margus Toine wrote: Why did I download this zip file? Now I want a K-x next to my K20D. I skipped the K7 because I hate the noise and banding of the K20. Thanks for posting. Toine 2009/12/31 Dario Bonazza : Igor Roshchin wrote: So, what is the present consensus on the subject of the high-ISO performance of K-x (besides the decrease in the number of pixels): is it mostly due to processing and hence is applicable only to JPEG, or RAW images also show considerable improvement over K-7? Judge by yourself these comparison shots for K-20D and K-x (136 MB file to download): www.dariobonazza.com/public/HighISO.zip Warning: serious risk of camera buying can result from seeing those pics! I believe the decrease in pixel count is negligible in practical use, while the improvement in high-ISO performance is so evident one could think of comparing APS to FF. And remember the K-7 high-ISO performance has not improved over the K20D, given the extra noise caused by the four-channel structure and higher transfer rate of the K-7. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: dpreview reviews the k-x....
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Margus Männik" Subject: Re: dpreview reviews the k-x Dario Bonazza wrote: Tim Bray wrote: On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Subash wrote: ...and gives it a 'highly recommended': http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentaxkx/ And says the low-light handling is better than the K-7's. Hmf. -T And a lot better! For that reason, some time ago I wrote I'd love a K-7 with the K-x sensor. Dario ... and K20D body, please! I've come to prefer the K7 body, and while I like what I am seeing in the K-x, I have no wish to go back to a 10mp camera. If they could get a 15mp chip from Sony with K-x performance, that would be nice. I don't like small-sized bodies. Nikon D3x was quite perfect for me. OK, if it can't be K20D body, then let it be at least the digital version of Z-1p. K-7 is a bit too short from left. Megapixels... as long as there's enough pixels to fill A4 (8"x12") at 300dpi, I'm happy. It's APS-C body and there's no reason to increase the sensor density without end. If I really do need more, I still have my film bodies and possibility to use Imacon scanner. No digital camera can beat 'em :) If even that's not enough, I have also some 6x6 cameras. But that's just my point of view. BR, Margus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: dpreview reviews the k-x....
Dario Bonazza wrote: Tim Bray wrote: On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Subash wrote: ...and gives it a 'highly recommended': http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentaxkx/ And says the low-light handling is better than the K-7's. Hmf. -T And a lot better! For that reason, some time ago I wrote I'd love a K-7 with the K-x sensor. Dario ... and K20D body, please! Margus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: dpreview reviews the k-x....
Tim Bray wrote: On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Subash wrote: ...and gives it a 'highly recommended': http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentaxkx/ And says the low-light handling is better than the K-7's. Hmf. -T Yes, and they're absolutely correct. I tested the camera for 3 weeks and as a result, K-7 doesn't impress me any more. It's dark here... BR, Margus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Does anybody miss the "new" equipment discussions?
I'm not Tim, but maybe I can be helpful. I hated ALL straps before I got Pentax Noeprene Strap (art. 50151). It's really worth of trying out. BR, Margus Christine Aguila wrote: No, can you recommend one, Tim? Thanks for the tip! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: "Tim Øsleby" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 7:03 PM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the "new" equipment discussions? Have you tried a good neoprene strap? It does not make the camera lighter, but it sure makes it feel lighter. -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2009/12/17 Christine Aguila : Well, some lighter would help ;-). Seriously though, when I did the camera-store-try on the K7, it felt good to hold and had a nice feel. I do understand the point about weight/steadier grip/with longer lenses--and agree, but lately the kit feels so heavy--course so does by body. Maybe I'm just so out of shape, and I'm probably not shooting enough--actually, I just checked Lightroom; I shot 5887 frames so far for 2009. I suppose by PDML standards that's pretty wimpy, but certainly not out of character for the wimp I am :-). Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: "paul stenquist" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 6:54 AM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the "new" equipment discussions? I don't know what the exact numbers are, but the K7 isn't a lot lighter than the K20. Somewhat smaller, but it's packed and well built, so it's rather hefty. I prefer a heavier camera. It makes for a steadier grip and balances substantial lenses better. The DA* 60-250 and the K7 with battery pack are a perfect match. Paul On Dec 17, 2009, at 2:07 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: I thought the same with my K20 & then I touched the K7 & heard the shutter--ahhh, that was lovely to the ears. I do want the K7, so I'm *sort of* saving for it--but mainly for the weight--I'm so tired of the weight--my own--and camera gear weight; these days I'm traveling really light, and it's still heavy. I guess I'm a wimp. A few nights ago I dreamt of my old MX, and I moved around free and easy in that dream. :-) Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: "gldnbearz" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 4:13 PM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the "new" equipment discussions? I thought the same w/ my K200D. Then I had to touch a K7 & listen to it's shutter sound. What to do with a K200D + grip? :\ - Pat On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Well, it's summer doldrums down here but I get your point I think that DSLR development has reached the point where incremental gains in performance are relatively small, so upgrading becomes a matter of trying to justify the expense when the current camera is 'good enough'. I my case, the K200D does pretty much everything I want, so I probably wont upgrade until a camera comes along with similar features but with a better high ISO performance and a sensor with a few more MP of resolution. (Oh, wait. Isn't that the K-x?) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Ammo
Bob W wrote: The gun is still smoking... http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/ BR, Margus What are they? Damn, I really knew the answer... but I'm sure I've seen those somewhere before. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Ammo
The gun is still smoking... http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/ BR, Margus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Dream Lens
Matthew Hunt wrote: 2009/12/11 Margus Männik : But of course I would also need GOOD 1.4...1.5 x weatherproof SDM/screw TC. It's not a lens, it's a converter, so hopefully I can make an additional wish :) I would like to second (actually, sixth or so by my count) the request for a 1.4x SDM TC, to go with my DA*300/4. The TC needs to tell the body of its existence, for shake reduction, AF, and EXIF purposes. I have the Tamron 1.4x, and it passes the SDM signal, but the focus oscillates about the correct point, and often fails to lock. I had the same converter some times ago. Not a stellar performer and no weatherproof at all. Basically the same story with Kenko MC7 (2x TC). BR, Margus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Dream Lens
John Celio wrote: With all the rumblings about the new D-FA 100 WR not being a lens anyone wanted, I've been wondering: What is your dream lens that does not yet exist in the current Pentax lineup? Rules for this question: - Realistic lenses only. No 5000mm 2.8 Macro WR Super-SR SDM APO Aspherical ED Extra-Crispy Tilt-Shift Low-Calorie Triple-SMC lens with 24 aperture blades, a cherry on top and a pack animal to carry it around. - Describe just one dream lens. No "I can't decide between an 8mm f/68 pinhole and a 76.4mm f/1.2 macro." One lens only. - Explain why Pentax really ought to make this lens. OK, just one lens. Not a dream toy, just a ultimate tool: SMC Pentax 32mm F1,7 AL IF SDM WR. I don't care much about f/1.4 aperture. Even f/2 would do fine - it wouldn't be portrait lens anyway (i.e very large apertures are not much needed) and cameras are getting better year to year (lower high ISO noise, better viewfinders, faster focus). So, very large aperture would make the lens simply more expensive and heavier. 49mm filter size, please. If possible, it could focus from about 0.2m. Usual Pentax lenses around 30mm "start" from 30cm and sometimes it's a BIT too far for me. But of course I would also need GOOD 1.4...1.5 x weatherproof SDM/screw TC. It's not a lens, it's a converter, so hopefully I can make an additional wish :) BR, Margus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: official: DFA 100Macro WR
John Sessoms wrote: From: eckinator >> [...] completely rounded diaphragm blade. This >> creates a natural, beautiful bokeh [...] I am beginning to think of bokeh as the marketing buzzword caramel soy chai macchiato of photography... but hey =) Remember the admonition when you were growing up? "If you can't say something nice ..." When all else fails, compliment the "creamy bokeh". Whatever other features it may have - there's no SDM. And it's almost Y2010 ot there... However, nice accessories list - it comes even with FOOD: http://www.pentax.jp/english/news/2009/200919.html must be the first lens of this kind :))) BR, Margus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT- Arsenal Factory Shuts Down.
John Sessoms wrote: From: "P. J. Alling" From the Online Photographer. I know my first thought was, they were still /manufacturing/ cameras? The end of an era... I think they were still manufacturing lenses, although the Super-Rotator TS seems to have been out of production for some time. Super Rotator is not an Arsenal product. Hartblei uses Arenal-made parts to manufacture lenses. Arsenal is a military factory, they're actually out from civilian photo products manufacturing for years. Until now they have simply sold slowly their stocks - parts, half-assembled cameras and lenses - but final assembly was finished years ago. Some time ago I used to repair quite many Kiev 6x6cm cameras and here (Tallinn, Estonia) was a ukrainian guy , who visited the factory time-to-time and brought me needed parts. BR, Margus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-x body, anyone have any experiences to pass on?
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Jaume Lahuerta" Subject: Re: K-x body, anyone have any experiences to pass on? Simple answer: lithiums. They're all but necessary in most cameras using AA-size batteries. But these are disposables...a step back IMHO. Quite honestly, we are all kinda pissing in the wind here. We don't really know what the power requirments are out of the new camera, though it is fairly safe to assume that they are fairly high. What we do know is that previous Pentaxes have had problems with NiMH batteries, and the cure has been to go to Lithiums. We also know that in North America, Pentax is packing Lithiums into the camera. We also know that the K-x doesn't seem to do well on NiMH batteries. The logical conclusion is that the camera needs something that it isn't getting from NiMH batteries, and that Pentax knows this. Perhaps the step forwards is a better NiMH battery. No, we aren't. Why should an average customer care about the power requirements? If the user manual says the camera should work with NiMH batteries (without additional requirements stated), it should work fine with ANY non-faulty NiMHs the users happen to have. Otherwise the users do feel pissed and will not buy more Pentax products. Also they will drone about it everywhere and chase away more potential buyers. That causes less profit from sales, less money for product development and I / you / we have to wait longer for next proper camera or lens. BR, Margus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-x body, anyone have any experiences to pass on?
Thibouille wrote: At least, Pentax is listening.. http://nedbunnell.blogspot.com/2009/10/k-x-battery-notes.html More like "everything's OK, use better batteries". Sorry Pentax, if Eneloops (and intelligent charger) is not good enough, then the camera definitely has a problem. Period. BR, Margus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-x body, anyone have any experiences to pass on?
Dario Bonazza wrote: Jaume Lahuerta wrote: It seems a very nice body, I am tempted by its size and good high ISO response. My only concern is the trouble that some people is having with rechargeable batteries (see dpreview forum threads). Having owned a Ds and owning now a K20D, I can say that, despite I much prefer the universality of AA batteries, the proprietary lithium ones seem more reliable. The Sanyo Eneloops fix problems with AA-size batteries. Nope, they don't. I'm testing the K-x right now and Eneloops are not better than Duracell NiMH's. First I tried Duracell 2300mAh's and wasn't impressed at all. After some 50 or 60 shots camera blacked out. Took Eneloops from my AF-360FGZ, charged 'em properly yesterday evening, made some 4 or 5 test shots... and got depleted battery warning today morning. Shortly after that camera simply switched off. Set of Panasonic Evoia alkalines helped me out. I put the same Eneloops (and Duracells) back to flashguns and those work fine. Now I'm trying my third set of rechargeables - Energizer 2500mAh. I didn't even charged em but just placed to camera as they came from drawer. Surprisingly they work quite OK, at least camera turns on every time. It may show red "empty battery" sign, but works fine and even charges the pop-up flash. BR, Margus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Car for photographers
As we can see, it's for Canon users :) Igor Roshchin wrote: With so many car enthusiasts on the list, I thought some might be curious to see this strange box: http://www.dcviews.com/press/daihatsu-deca-deca.htm Igor PS. For the Russian-speaking PDMLers: I'd call it "pepelatz". -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Quote of the day
The author most obviously dosn't have a smallest idea about communist block circa 1981. Windows is VERY colorful and reliable compared to this... I would even say happier. BR, Margus (from ex-soviet country) Joseph McAllister wrote: On Oct 2, 2009, at 11:24 , Bob W wrote: "Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway" http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/sep/28/charlie-brooker-microsof t-mac-windows For second place I'd like to submit, from the same article: "using Windows is like living in a communist bloc nation circa 1981" Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com “ The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.” — Kevan Olesen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax's naming system
OK then, where is my K-Z? With Z-1p body and FDP grip strap I wouldn't
even care if it's full frame or not...
BR, Margus
John Celio wrote:
So I was thinking about the K-x the other night while taking photos of
my 1.5 year old nephew trying to drink from his dad's empty bottle of
Mike's Hard Lemonade, when it occurred to me that the door is open for
Pentax to bring back all sorts of past model names for their future
dSLRs.
The K-m and K-x, as we all know, reference the KM and KX from the days
of yore, so what's to stop Pentax from making, say, a K-mx (retaining
the "K-" to fit with the current naming standard). It could be the
small, manual, barebones and super simple camera that many oldtimers
yearn for. Then, if you put in most of the full-auto features
(including a very basic autofocus system) in the same small body,
you'd have something one might call a K-me or K-zx. Make a larger,
semi-pro model that has interchangeable viewfinders and other
accessories and call it the K-lx, make a fat & ugly model and call it
the K-sfx, and make one that takes film and call it the K-istD (just
for irony's sake).
None of these things will ever happen, of course, but it's fun to
think about.
John
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Re: You may want to check Pentax news Thursday (no, no FF, no 645)
I don't really care about if it's good or bad screwing in Vietnam. Cruel but true - the more they screw plant workers, the less we (end-users) will be screwed. BRM P. J. Alling wrote: So you're intimating that there's lots of screwing going on in Pentax's Vietnam Plant? Gee, I hope it's the good kind. Margus Männik wrote: Well... no. In US or Western Europe it would be really cheaper to "hire" a robot. In rest of the world, low-paid human with screwdriver is MUCH cheaper than screwdriving machinery. I've worked for years in mobile phone assembly plant (it's LOTS of screwing) and seen many production cost calculations. Don't forget, that Pentax lenses are made (not even in Eastern Europe but) in Vietnam. BR, Margus Graydon wrote: Attaching the metal plate is a labour-intensive step. If they can avoid that, it's probably a good boost to the margin. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: You may want to check Pentax news Thursday (no, no FF, no 645)
Those cheap lenses have HUGE manufacturing tolerances. If the product itself and the production processes are designed properly, there should be literally no way to "assembly done wrong". Call it "manufactural foolproofing" if you like. In other words, "kit lenses" and "precision assembly" are from different worlds. What's about our "made in vietnam" friends? Either those lenses are not foolproof in manufacturing (burn the production engineers) or there's too weak quality control (burn the final quality controllers). Don't blame the line workers - if there's something that CAN be done wrong, they DO it wrong. Bring on the automated machinery and it will go even worse. Been there, seen that. BR, Margus Graydon wrote: That's the Vietnamese plant with the dire QA issues, no? It's not just screwing things together, that's getting optical tolerances while screwing things together. I'm sure your right about the cost of straight-up assembly, but it's pretty clear they've got issues with "assembly done right". A moulded in flange is likely cheaper than attaching the metal flange correctly. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Pentax stuff
No, they will sell you an another (brand) camera. Exactly the same as with shoes. Seems that Pentax market position is much different here. All our larger retailers DO have Pentax equipment. Even the small ones offer you at least K-m and/or couple of compacts. Magic? No, our largest retailer is simply an official Pentax partner... BR, Margus P. J. Alling wrote: It'll be like shoe shopping. If the color you want isn't in stock they'll order if for you. Hell, I haven't seen a Pentax camera in a shop, or big box store for that matter, around here in about a year. Margus Männik wrote: More like K-? we really have no idea, what to market next But K-x, with 100 different versions of the same camera, it will be a real PIA for camera retailers. "Oh, it's a crappy shop, they even don't have a yellowish-blue version in their stock..." BR, Margus Bruce Walker wrote: Bong Manayon wrote: K-x? After the K-m? Should we expect a K-2 later? They've done digits and they are well into single letters, so perhaps they'll go full circle back to punctuation? K-* *ist revisted. K-! a superlative camera Or maybe add on more letters ... K-os applies random filters to get a Polaroid feel -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: You may want to check Pentax news Thursday (no, no FF, no 645)
Well... no. In US or Western Europe it would be really cheaper to "hire" a robot. In rest of the world, low-paid human with screwdriver is MUCH cheaper than screwdriving machinery. I've worked for years in mobile phone assembly plant (it's LOTS of screwing) and seen many production cost calculations. Don't forget, that Pentax lenses are made (not even in Eastern Europe but) in Vietnam. BR, Margus Graydon wrote: Attaching the metal plate is a labour-intensive step. If they can avoid that, it's probably a good boost to the margin. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: You may want to check Pentax news Thursday (no, no FF, no 645)
No, but it ensures that you'll buy a new lens much sooner - besides the bayonet, there are more metal parts replaced to plastic ones inside. OTOH, I have had "plasticky" FAJ 18-35 for many years, and it 's still like new. BRM eckinator wrote: I don't get it - what is the big idea with the L lenses? A plastic bayonet ring? Saves like what, 10 grams? Wouldn't it be cheaper to have one production line less? 2009/9/17 Margus Männik : http://www.pentax.jp/english/news/2009/200918.html Even worse than expected... BR, Margus AlunFoto wrote: Link or vapor! :-) Jostein 2009/9/15 Thibouille : ...but interesting still. So quickly after K-7... Pentax are you mad? xD -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Pentax stuff
More like K-? we really have no idea, what to market next But K-x, with 100 different versions of the same camera, it will be a real PIA for camera retailers. "Oh, it's a crappy shop, they even don't have a yellowish-blue version in their stock..." BR, Margus Bruce Walker wrote: Bong Manayon wrote: K-x? After the K-m? Should we expect a K-2 later? They've done digits and they are well into single letters, so perhaps they'll go full circle back to punctuation? K-* *ist revisted. K-! a superlative camera Or maybe add on more letters ... K-os applies random filters to get a Polaroid feel -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: You may want to check Pentax news Thursday (no, no FF, no 645)
http://www.pentax.jp/english/news/2009/200918.html Even worse than expected... BR, Margus AlunFoto wrote: Link or vapor! :-) Jostein 2009/9/15 Thibouille : ...but interesting still. So quickly after K-7... Pentax are you mad? xD -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How precise is your K-7's spirit level?
William Robb wrote: Or, you can bitch and whine on the internet if that is what floats your boat, but it isn't as constructive. Absolutely - and that's exactly what all kind of "reviewers" will do until they got next camera or feature to chomp. Personally I don't care much - I managed to survive the Soviet age as a child and most probably a bit inaccurate level will not kill me either. Still I hate when some smart*sses will have ground for whining on a good camera like K-7. BR, Margus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How precise is your K-7's spirit level?
Joseph McAllister wrote: IF the K-7 had a bubble level inside, you could expect accurate readings. But it only has a digital IF it has a function like this, it should be accurate. At least as accurate as naked eye. K-7 is a serious tool, not a toy and inaccurate functions are decreasing it's creditability. For an average person the level is real low-tech and so they think: hey, if even the god damn level isn't accurate, there's no sense to talk about the complex functions like image processing. BRM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How precise is your K-7's spirit level?
Hi, compared the K-7 I test with my most trusted bubble level. Horizontally it's about one unit off, i.e. when the bubble sits in the middle, K-7 wants me to rotate a camera a bit counterclockwise. Vertical position is even more inaccurate (2-3 units) BR, Margus paul stenquist wrote: You should use a bubble level to test it accurately. Flat and level is not necessarily flat and level. Paul On Aug 3, 2009, at 1:31 PM, Chris Mitchell wrote: Mine's off too. It leans to the right - one whole bar on the scale. This shows up when I put the camera base on a flat and level surface and if I align the grid on live view to a horizontal plane. I'll have to think about whether it's worth taking it back or just living with it. The only other gripe so far is that the SD card is fiddly to extract - the door gets in the way when gripping the card. Perhaps it needs a magic needle system... Otherwise, I'm very happy with it from its first day of shooting though. I'll post some pictures soon. Chris -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Ralf R. Radermacher Sent: 03 August 2009 11:31 To: Pentax Mailingliste Subject: How precise is your K-7's spirit level? Mine is a good degree off. Way too much. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM
Thibouille wrote: MMm intersting as this isn't the same feedback as William's, at all. Could it be that your lens woud show an alignment problem is DPRs lens? Maybe your FA is very good :) More food for thoughts (for me)... Hard to say. The sample of DA*55 I've tested wasn't definitely a bad one, but maybe also not a stellar. OTOH, my FA50 was really selected as "best of three available" when I got it for my Z-1p (i.e. many years ago). OK then - my FA50 is very good - I like it this way ;) BR, Margus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM
William Robb wrote: The DA* does come with a very impressive lens hood. Yes, it's a real good one. I made not much less impressive hood for my FA50 myself :) You need FA35 bayonet hood (I got mine from *bay for real cheap) and 49-52mm filter conversion ring. Cut off a bayonet part and glue the ring instead. Be sure the hood stops at right position. Right shape, cut-off for polarizer and everything. Fits great also FA28. The only backside - you'll need 52mm filters instead of 49mm. Much later I discovered that also DA70L hood fits FA50. BR, Margus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM
Thibouille wrote: Margus, what are your findings about sharpness, specially wide open? Supposedly (I insist, I can't compare myself) the FA50 is soft wide open and DA*55 is quite sharp even wide open. What is your take on this? Thank you. Actually I would say they're both equally soft at max. aperture, but if you stop down to f/2.0, FA is better at corners. If you put 'em side-to-side at dpreview test, you'll see the same: http://www.dpreview.com/lensreviews/widget/Fullscreen.ashx?reviews=51,36&fullscreen=true&av=1,1&fl=55,50&vis=VisualiserSharpnessMTF,VisualiserSharpnessMTF&stack=horizontal&lock=&config=/lensreviews/widget/LensReviewConfiguration.xml%3F4 I made quite many tests as I had an opportunity to get DA* at very good price + sell immediately my FA. I still have my FA50... BR, Margus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM
Hi, actually I disagree about this "much improved" part, as FA50/1.4 is not a lens that can be much improved... I tested DA*55 when it came out and I made 4 pairs of A3 prints of the same scenes (one portrait, one town view, one flower closeup and one sunset). I still watch 'em time to time. They're a bit different, but I can not say that photos made with one or another lens are clearly better. Just one exception - background rendering on DA*55 portrait sample is smoother. The same time, if I compare non-picture qualities, FA50 wins hands down - it's much less expensive, smaller and lighter. If there are already DA*16-50 and DA* 60-250 in my camera bag, I may add FA50 (just in case, maybe I'll need it), but definitely no DA*55. BR, Margus Bruce Walker wrote: dpreview.com has released their full review of the Pentax smc DA* 55mm 1:1.4 SDM lens ... http://www.dpreview.com/lensreviews/pentax_55_1p4_p15/ Much moaning about AF; loved the lens hood. :-) General agreement that it's much improved in most ways over the FA 50. Recommended (with reservations) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Kodak DC 25 camera and files.
:) OK, understood. BRM P. J. Alling wrote: Drawers is a synonym for pants, often used for underwear... Margus Männik wrote: Well, unfortunately I'm not a native English speaker (and me and my first English teacher, we considered each other as complete morons) ... but hopefully you can explain me? BR, Margus P. J. Alling wrote: (it's amazing what a man can have in his drawers, isn't it?) MARK! Yes, the best quotes are out of context... Then again maybe you have to be a native English speaker pf a certain age to know just how funny this is... Margus Männik wrote: Hi Drew, if you can find suitable connectors (PC-serial is standard and IMO the camera connector is not very special either), I can find out the connection scheamatics for you. I bought Chinon ES-3000 (=DC50 in white) last winter. Paid a whole Euro for it on eBay :) Full set with card, cables, software and manual. Still, I had MUCH trouble with getting the pictures from card to computer. Damn software (which is mandatory to transfer pictures from card or camera via cable) works exclusively on W95. So I had to dig out my old Compaq Contura from cellar, install the software and transfer pics to Contura. Then I got another PCMCIA memory card (it's amazing what a man can have in his drawers, isn't it?) and transfered pics from Contura to my new laptop. After that I transfered 'em with USB stick to my desktop workstation. Was it worth it? Hardly... Was it fun? Yes! BR, Margus Drew wrote: I have a DC50... it's got zoom! it was the first digital camera my company bought. I used it extensively until we bought a 1.3Mpix Olympus. Actually I am on the lookout for a serial cable for the Kodak should anyone have one around?? Cheers, Drew. Joseph McAllister wrote: On Jul 21, 2009, at 05:27 , Bruce Walker wrote: David J Brooks wrote: I used to own this digital camera, picked it up in 1997. I have an older iomega zip drive, 100meg, that i have the dc25 files stored on. I have tried to find the software via a google search, but it seems unavailable. I have a few photos of my parents at their 50th wedding lunch i would like to try and get off the disk. Whats the chances any one on the list used the camera and has the software.??? None i suppose. I cannot remember if the zip drive(plugs into the printer port) required software or not. Dave Dave, the parallel port Zip drives required a driver for Windows. There's also an alternate cable that attaches those Zip drives to older Macs via the Mac SCSI port connector. This may be what you need for Windows ... http://www.softwarepatch.com/utilities/iomega-zip.html However, what format are the images saved in? Possibly not JPEG, but perhaps Photo-CD? I had a laugh reading the DC25 manual PDF: http://is.gd/1Gldq We've come along nicely since the DC25: 5 seconds to produce a 320x240 pixel image. Took a 2 *megabyte* CF card. Yowza! At the January 1996 MacWorld User Group Breakfast, I won a copy of the newly released "High Resolution" DC-40. The manual reveals: http://www.kodak.com/global/en/service/digCam/dc40/manual/dc40english..pdf that the same 5 secs between images, 8 seconds if you use the flash. It took 756 x 504 pixels, 24 bit color depth. Still have it somewhere, in a black and chartreuse case... Yowza indeed! If it doesn’t excite you, This thing that you see, Why in the world, Would it excite me? —Jay Maisel Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Kodak DC 25 camera and files.
Well, unfortunately I'm not a native English speaker (and me and my first English teacher, we considered each other as complete morons) ... but hopefully you can explain me? BR, Margus P. J. Alling wrote: (it's amazing what a man can have in his drawers, isn't it?) MARK! Yes, the best quotes are out of context... Then again maybe you have to be a native English speaker pf a certain age to know just how funny this is... Margus Männik wrote: Hi Drew, if you can find suitable connectors (PC-serial is standard and IMO the camera connector is not very special either), I can find out the connection scheamatics for you. I bought Chinon ES-3000 (=DC50 in white) last winter. Paid a whole Euro for it on eBay :) Full set with card, cables, software and manual. Still, I had MUCH trouble with getting the pictures from card to computer. Damn software (which is mandatory to transfer pictures from card or camera via cable) works exclusively on W95. So I had to dig out my old Compaq Contura from cellar, install the software and transfer pics to Contura. Then I got another PCMCIA memory card (it's amazing what a man can have in his drawers, isn't it?) and transfered pics from Contura to my new laptop. After that I transfered 'em with USB stick to my desktop workstation. Was it worth it? Hardly... Was it fun? Yes! BR, Margus Drew wrote: I have a DC50... it's got zoom! it was the first digital camera my company bought. I used it extensively until we bought a 1.3Mpix Olympus. Actually I am on the lookout for a serial cable for the Kodak should anyone have one around?? Cheers, Drew. Joseph McAllister wrote: On Jul 21, 2009, at 05:27 , Bruce Walker wrote: David J Brooks wrote: I used to own this digital camera, picked it up in 1997. I have an older iomega zip drive, 100meg, that i have the dc25 files stored on. I have tried to find the software via a google search, but it seems unavailable. I have a few photos of my parents at their 50th wedding lunch i would like to try and get off the disk. Whats the chances any one on the list used the camera and has the software.??? None i suppose. I cannot remember if the zip drive(plugs into the printer port) required software or not. Dave Dave, the parallel port Zip drives required a driver for Windows. There's also an alternate cable that attaches those Zip drives to older Macs via the Mac SCSI port connector. This may be what you need for Windows ... http://www.softwarepatch.com/utilities/iomega-zip.html However, what format are the images saved in? Possibly not JPEG, but perhaps Photo-CD? I had a laugh reading the DC25 manual PDF: http://is.gd/1Gldq We've come along nicely since the DC25: 5 seconds to produce a 320x240 pixel image. Took a 2 *megabyte* CF card. Yowza! At the January 1996 MacWorld User Group Breakfast, I won a copy of the newly released "High Resolution" DC-40. The manual reveals: http://www.kodak.com/global/en/service/digCam/dc40/manual/dc40english.pdf that the same 5 secs between images, 8 seconds if you use the flash. It took 756 x 504 pixels, 24 bit color depth. Still have it somewhere, in a black and chartreuse case... Yowza indeed! If it doesn’t excite you, This thing that you see, Why in the world, Would it excite me? —Jay Maisel Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Kodak DC 25 camera and files.
Hi Drew, if you can find suitable connectors (PC-serial is standard and IMO the camera connector is not very special either), I can find out the connection scheamatics for you. I bought Chinon ES-3000 (=DC50 in white) last winter. Paid a whole Euro for it on eBay :) Full set with card, cables, software and manual. Still, I had MUCH trouble with getting the pictures from card to computer. Damn software (which is mandatory to transfer pictures from card or camera via cable) works exclusively on W95. So I had to dig out my old Compaq Contura from cellar, install the software and transfer pics to Contura. Then I got another PCMCIA memory card (it's amazing what a man can have in his drawers, isn't it?) and transfered pics from Contura to my new laptop. After that I transfered 'em with USB stick to my desktop workstation. Was it worth it? Hardly... Was it fun? Yes! BR, Margus Drew wrote: I have a DC50... it's got zoom! it was the first digital camera my company bought. I used it extensively until we bought a 1.3Mpix Olympus. Actually I am on the lookout for a serial cable for the Kodak should anyone have one around?? Cheers, Drew. Joseph McAllister wrote: On Jul 21, 2009, at 05:27 , Bruce Walker wrote: David J Brooks wrote: I used to own this digital camera, picked it up in 1997. I have an older iomega zip drive, 100meg, that i have the dc25 files stored on. I have tried to find the software via a google search, but it seems unavailable. I have a few photos of my parents at their 50th wedding lunch i would like to try and get off the disk. Whats the chances any one on the list used the camera and has the software.??? None i suppose. I cannot remember if the zip drive(plugs into the printer port) required software or not. Dave Dave, the parallel port Zip drives required a driver for Windows. There's also an alternate cable that attaches those Zip drives to older Macs via the Mac SCSI port connector. This may be what you need for Windows ... http://www.softwarepatch.com/utilities/iomega-zip.html However, what format are the images saved in? Possibly not JPEG, but perhaps Photo-CD? I had a laugh reading the DC25 manual PDF: http://is.gd/1Gldq We've come along nicely since the DC25: 5 seconds to produce a 320x240 pixel image. Took a 2 *megabyte* CF card. Yowza! At the January 1996 MacWorld User Group Breakfast, I won a copy of the newly released "High Resolution" DC-40. The manual reveals: http://www.kodak.com/global/en/service/digCam/dc40/manual/dc40english.pdf that the same 5 secs between images, 8 seconds if you use the flash. It took 756 x 504 pixels, 24 bit color depth. Still have it somewhere, in a black and chartreuse case... Yowza indeed! If it doesn’t excite you, This thing that you see, Why in the world, Would it excite me? —Jay Maisel Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I've got a hole in me arsenal
It depends... I do have 'em both and actually I do use my 50-135 less and less. Yes, there are some cases that 60-250 can not cover, but I have also 50/1.4 and 135/2.8. Just an observation... BR, Margus paul stenquist wrote: The correct choice, of course, is both:-). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: :( K20D gone.
Sorry, it seems I quoted incorrect. Really sorry. BR, Margus Bob W wrote: Bob W wrote: Sony - The only Sony product I will ever buy is Playstation. :) Harsh words :) Actually Sony DSLRs aren't that bad at all. Have you tried one? Be prepared, after some period of time the only camera manufacturers will be Sony and Samsung anyway... BR, Margus I didn't write that. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: :( K20D gone.
Mitsubishi Group to be exact. Since 1988. BR, Margus William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Adam Maas" Subject: Re: :( K20D gone. Not likely, Canon and Panasonic will still be around and Nikon's part of a Sony-sized Zaibatsu as well. I read somewhere years ago that Nikon was owned by Mitsubishi Heavy Industries. Don't know if that's true or not. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: :( K20D gone.
Bob W wrote: Sony - The only Sony product I will ever buy is Playstation. :) Harsh words :) Actually Sony DSLRs aren't that bad at all. Have you tried one? Be prepared, after some period of time the only camera manufacturers will be Sony and Samsung anyway... BR, Margus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Dark side... again :)
Hi, testing some Tamron hyperzooms here and as those are not available for Pentax, I was forced to use Nikon (oldie D70s). Last friday night it was DJ Sash! (Ecuador, Adelante, Stay, Ganbareh etc.) and Scooter (Hyper Hyper, Weekend, Nessaja, Call Me Manana etc.) show in Haapsalu Episcopal Castle - perfect chance to try out Tamron 18-270 in action. Well... it was not THAT bad, but I really missed my DA*60-250. Two samples can be found here (1/3 original size): http://nagi.ee/photos/photo_sizes.php?id=11478095&size=o&album_id=194757 http://nagi.ee/photos/photo_sizes.php?id=11478103&size=o&album_id=194757 BR, Margus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ricehigh is at it again
Interesting, but where's the 30mm SDM f/whatever? BRM William Robb wrote: A "leaked" roadmap. Gleaned from ForumNeurotica http://ricehigh.blogspot.com/2009/05/new-lens-roadmap-revamped-5-new-lenses.html William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K7
Wireless would be the magic word. Cables are out, it's AD 2009 here. BR, Margus John Francis wrote: And not just for nature photography, either. I'd love to be able to use live view at a distance, and a wireless remote, for shots where you can't have a photographer standing in the best shooting position (such as sports events, for example). Perhaps more than a 2m cable would be a good idea for some of those, too. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K7
Don't be so sure :) BRM Thibouille wrote: There will be no K30D. But waiting can only reders the K-7 cheaper. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
