Re: Enablement

[John Sessoms]

Yeah, well *IF* I could afford it, I wouldn't have mentioned it to you 
guys until AFTER I bought it


... like I did when the FA-600 f/4 popped up - which I also couldn't 
*really* afford, but it only took 2 years to pay off.


On 2/19/2023 12:13 AM, Larry Colen wrote:




On Feb 18, 2023, at 8:06 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:

FWIW, IF anyone is interested, KEH currently has a Pentax 400mm F/2.8 SMC A* ED 
IF Manual Focus Lens on offer.


$3522.44

https://www.keh.com/shop/pentax-smc-p-a-400mm-f2-8-ed-if-telephoto-lens.html



I lusted after this lens many years ago. I wish Pentax could offer something 
similar in an AF lens for full-frame.

I probably couldn't afford it if they did.


I can't even afford the manual focus.


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> On Feb 18, 2023, at 8:06 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> 
> FWIW, IF anyone is interested, KEH currently has a Pentax 400mm F/2.8 SMC A* 
> ED IF Manual Focus Lens on offer.

$3522.44

https://www.keh.com/shop/pentax-smc-p-a-400mm-f2-8-ed-if-telephoto-lens.html

> 
> I lusted after this lens many years ago. I wish Pentax could offer something 
> similar in an AF lens for full-frame.
> 
> I probably couldn't afford it if they did.

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FWIW, IF anyone is interested, KEH currently has a Pentax 400mm F/2.8 
SMC A* ED IF Manual Focus Lens on offer.


I lusted after this lens many years ago. I wish Pentax could offer 
something similar in an AF lens for full-frame.


I probably couldn't afford it if they did.

On 2/18/2023 4:36 PM, Bill wrote:

On 2/18/2023 2:32 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



On Feb 18, 2023, at 12:30 PM, Bill  wrote:

That's not something I'm well known for, but I'll try real hard.

We'll settle for technically excellent crap.

That's more what I'm known for...

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On Feb 18, 2023, at 12:30 PM, Bill  wrote:

That's not something I'm well known for, but I'll try real hard.

We'll settle for technically excellent crap.

That's more what I'm known for...

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Re: Enablement

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MARK!  oh wait... BRUCE!

ann

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On Feb 18, 2023, at 12:30 PM, Bill  wrote:

That's not something I'm well known for, but I'll try real hard.

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> On Feb 18, 2023, at 12:30 PM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> That's not something I'm well known for, but I'll try real hard.

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That's not something I'm well known for, but I'll try real hard.

bill

On 2/18/2023 2:21 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Sounds great!

We will anticipate some wonderful images.

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On Sat, Feb 18, 2023 at 3:08 PM Bill  wrote:


My poor old Fuji gear has been sitting bereft and alone ever since I
bought my K1 in 2016.
Unused, unloved, nearly forgotten, it sad in it's Domke bag with ever
increasing amounts of dust collecting on top.

Today I changed all that. My old XT-1 body has been supplanted by a
spiffy new XT-5 and it's 40mp of X-Trans goodness.

So far it seems nice.

That's all for now.

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We will anticipate some wonderful images.

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On Sat, Feb 18, 2023 at 3:08 PM Bill  wrote:

> My poor old Fuji gear has been sitting bereft and alone ever since I
> bought my K1 in 2016.
> Unused, unloved, nearly forgotten, it sad in it's Domke bag with ever
> increasing amounts of dust collecting on top.
>
> Today I changed all that. My old XT-1 body has been supplanted by a
> spiffy new XT-5 and it's 40mp of X-Trans goodness.
>
> So far it seems nice.
>
> That's all for now.
>
> bill
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[Bill]

My poor old Fuji gear has been sitting bereft and alone ever since I 
bought my K1 in 2016.
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increasing amounts of dust collecting on top.


Today I changed all that. My old XT-1 body has been supplanted by a 
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So far it seems nice.

That's all for now.

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Re: Enablement! New Monitor!

[P. J. Alling]

Yes, it's a very nice monitor.

On 7/20/2021 3:17 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Am 20.07.21 um 19:45 schrieb P. J. Alling:

It's a Philips 276E9QDSB/27, 124% RGB, wide viewing angles, plug and
play on Windows 7.


What a difference a screen makes... :-)

Had the same experience last year.

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Am 20.07.21 um 19:45 schrieb P. J. Alling:

It's a Philips 276E9QDSB/27, 124% RGB, wide viewing angles, plug and
play on Windows 7.


What a difference a screen makes... :-)

Had the same experience last year.

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It's a Philips 276E9QDSB/27, 124% RGB, wide viewing angles, plug and 
play on Windows 7.


So far I've been quite pleased.  There were some reviews that intimated 
that proper drivers were a problem, but so far no problems.  I'll know 
better when I run my spyder which has decided to make like it's namesake 
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Re: Enablement (and PESO)

[Rick Womer]

Alan is correct about my K5. I also have no complaints about the AF.

One thing that I have done with each of my camera purchases (Super Program, 
istD, K10D, K20D, K7, K5, a K50 for my daughter and a K70 for my wife) is 
waiting to order until at least a year after introduction, so that most of the 
bugs have been squashed.

Rick

> On Mar 15, 2021, at 10:28 AM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> On 3/15/2021 8:06 AM, Alan C wrote:
>> My K5 (ex Mark Cassino) is just great & hasn't given any problems. I'm sure 
>> Rick Womer feels the same. No buttons have fallen off & the AF is excellent. 
>> However, I believe there were some dicey K5's sold at the end of the Hoya 
>> era.
> 
> Sure, I hear that a lot from K5 owners who haven't been subjected to the 
> horrors that the K5 was prone to. It seems people just want to be in denial 
> and discount the very real problems that the K5 had.
> Pretty much all the K5s that Hoya made came with built in problems that 
> affected a very high percentage of cameras. Ricoh couldn't fix all of them 
> because there were irreparable design flaws within the camera, hence the K5II 
> and K5IIs. The IIs had no AA filter.
> 
> My K5 didn't have the sensor spots, or the falling off buttons or the dials 
> that inexplicably stopped working, or the mirror overrun, or the (I believe 
> related) mirror lock, but it did have AF that was so unreliable as to render 
> the feature useless. Hoya put out several firmware updates designed to fix 
> the AF issue, none of which did any good. Eventually, they just lost interest 
> in trying to fix the bodge that they had created and decided that ignoring 
> the problems would make them go away.
> 
> The K5 was one of the major reasons I invested heavily into the Fuji X 
> system. I decided that I needed a camera that worked.
> 
> bill
> 
>> Alan C
>> On 15-Mar-21 03:53 PM, Bill wrote:
>>> The K5II is what the K5 should have been, had there been adults in the 
>>> room. It seems to have solved all of the niggly K5 problems that were not 
>>> resolved during production, such as buttons falling off and the AF being as 
>>> reliable as a 10 year old Skoda.
>>> It is a big jump from the K10, enjoy it.
>>> 
>>> bill
>>> 
>>> On 3/15/2021 1:28 AM, David Mann wrote:
 It's been a long time since I bought anything photographic but I recently 
 found a used K5ii at a reasonable price, and it arrived today.  This is a 
 big upgrade from my K10D.
 
 I went outside and took a couple of photos just after my daughter went to 
 bed but the light was getting a bit low.  No problem, I can crank up the 
 ISO :)
 
 This was taken with the FA*200mm f/2.8 at 6400ISO, 1/125 at f/5.0 
 handheld, very much reliant on shake reduction.
 
 http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1096/#peso
 
 I'll check whether it's on the latest firmware soon.  To their credit, 
 Ricoh's website made the manual and firmware very easy to find.
 
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Re: Enablement (and PESO)

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Lovely image!

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On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 3:29 AM David Mann  wrote:

> It's been a long time since I bought anything photographic but I recently
> found a used K5ii at a reasonable price, and it arrived today.  This is a
> big upgrade from my K10D.
>
> I went outside and took a couple of photos just after my daughter went to
> bed but the light was getting a bit low.  No problem, I can crank up the
> ISO :)
>
> This was taken with the FA*200mm f/2.8 at 6400ISO, 1/125 at f/5.0
> handheld, very much reliant on shake reduction.
>
> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1096/#peso
>
> I'll check whether it's on the latest firmware soon.  To their credit,
> Ricoh's website made the manual and firmware very easy to find.
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
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[P. J. Alling]

It is what Mike Johnston, and I seldom agree with Mike Johnston, would 
call a camera at the point of "sufficiency".   Which is one of the 
things that are killing the Photo equipment manufacturing industry.  
It's got more resolution than most people need, more dynamic range than 
most people understand, decent though not spectacular auto focus and a 
solid build that feels good in the hand.  The biggest competitor to a 
manufactures new camera is that manufactures product from two too three 
generations back, and with digital gear the price drop is nothing short 
of stupefying over a couple of generations.  Oh, and a really decent 
viewfinder.


On 3/15/2021 4:01 AM, Larry Colen wrote:



On Mar 15, 2021, at 12:28 AM, David Mann  wrote:

It's been a long time since I bought anything photographic but I recently found 
a used K5ii at a reasonable price, and it arrived today.  This is a big upgrade 
from my K10D.

yes, the K-5 was the first Pentax body that I owned which I felt the sensor 
performance was over the threshold of “good enough that I would only *want* 
rather than *need* to upgrade.

I went outside and took a couple of photos just after my daughter went to bed 
but the light was getting a bit low.  No problem, I can crank up the ISO :)

This was taken with the FA*200mm f/2.8 at 6400ISO, 1/125 at f/5.0 handheld, 
very much reliant on shake reduction.

http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1096/#peso

Very nice photo.


I'll check whether it's on the latest firmware soon.  To their credit, Ricoh's 
website made the manual and firmware very easy to find.

Cheers,
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Re: Enablement (and PESO)

[Bill]

On 3/15/2021 8:06 AM, Alan C wrote:
My K5 (ex Mark Cassino) is just great & hasn't given any problems. I'm 
sure Rick Womer feels the same. No buttons have fallen off & the AF is 
excellent. However, I believe there were some dicey K5's sold at the end 
of the Hoya era.


Sure, I hear that a lot from K5 owners who haven't been subjected to the 
horrors that the K5 was prone to. It seems people just want to be in 
denial and discount the very real problems that the K5 had.
Pretty much all the K5s that Hoya made came with built in problems that 
affected a very high percentage of cameras. Ricoh couldn't fix all of 
them because there were irreparable design flaws within the camera, 
hence the K5II and K5IIs. The IIs had no AA filter.


My K5 didn't have the sensor spots, or the falling off buttons or the 
dials that inexplicably stopped working, or the mirror overrun, or the 
(I believe related) mirror lock, but it did have AF that was so 
unreliable as to render the feature useless. Hoya put out several 
firmware updates designed to fix the AF issue, none of which did any 
good. Eventually, they just lost interest in trying to fix the bodge 
that they had created and decided that ignoring the problems would make 
them go away.


The K5 was one of the major reasons I invested heavily into the Fuji X 
system. I decided that I needed a camera that worked.


bill



Alan C

On 15-Mar-21 03:53 PM, Bill wrote:
The K5II is what the K5 should have been, had there been adults in the 
room. It seems to have solved all of the niggly K5 problems that were 
not resolved during production, such as buttons falling off and the AF 
being as reliable as a 10 year old Skoda.

It is a big jump from the K10, enjoy it.

bill

On 3/15/2021 1:28 AM, David Mann wrote:
It's been a long time since I bought anything photographic but I 
recently found a used K5ii at a reasonable price, and it arrived 
today.  This is a big upgrade from my K10D.


I went outside and took a couple of photos just after my daughter 
went to bed but the light was getting a bit low.  No problem, I can 
crank up the ISO :)


This was taken with the FA*200mm f/2.8 at 6400ISO, 1/125 at f/5.0 
handheld, very much reliant on shake reduction.


http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1096/#peso

I'll check whether it's on the latest firmware soon.  To their 
credit, Ricoh's website made the manual and firmware very easy to find.


Cheers,
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Re: Enablement (and PESO)

[Alan C]

My K5 (ex Mark Cassino) is just great & hasn't given any problems. I'm 
sure Rick Womer feels the same. No buttons have fallen off & the AF is 
excellent. However, I believe there were some dicey K5's sold at the end 
of the Hoya era.


Alan C

On 15-Mar-21 03:53 PM, Bill wrote:
The K5II is what the K5 should have been, had there been adults in the 
room. It seems to have solved all of the niggly K5 problems that were 
not resolved during production, such as buttons falling off and the AF 
being as reliable as a 10 year old Skoda.

It is a big jump from the K10, enjoy it.

bill

On 3/15/2021 1:28 AM, David Mann wrote:
It's been a long time since I bought anything photographic but I 
recently found a used K5ii at a reasonable price, and it arrived 
today.  This is a big upgrade from my K10D.


I went outside and took a couple of photos just after my daughter 
went to bed but the light was getting a bit low.  No problem, I can 
crank up the ISO :)


This was taken with the FA*200mm f/2.8 at 6400ISO, 1/125 at f/5.0 
handheld, very much reliant on shake reduction.


http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1096/#peso

I'll check whether it's on the latest firmware soon.  To their 
credit, Ricoh's website made the manual and firmware very easy to find.


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Re: Enablement (and PESO)

[Bill]

The K5II is what the K5 should have been, had there been adults in the 
room. It seems to have solved all of the niggly K5 problems that were 
not resolved during production, such as buttons falling off and the AF 
being as reliable as a 10 year old Skoda.

It is a big jump from the K10, enjoy it.

bill

On 3/15/2021 1:28 AM, David Mann wrote:

It's been a long time since I bought anything photographic but I recently found 
a used K5ii at a reasonable price, and it arrived today.  This is a big upgrade 
from my K10D.

I went outside and took a couple of photos just after my daughter went to bed 
but the light was getting a bit low.  No problem, I can crank up the ISO :)

This was taken with the FA*200mm f/2.8 at 6400ISO, 1/125 at f/5.0 handheld, 
very much reliant on shake reduction.

http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1096/#peso

I'll check whether it's on the latest firmware soon.  To their credit, Ricoh's 
website made the manual and firmware very easy to find.

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> On Mar 15, 2021, at 12:28 AM, David Mann  wrote:
> 
> It's been a long time since I bought anything photographic but I recently 
> found a used K5ii at a reasonable price, and it arrived today.  This is a big 
> upgrade from my K10D.

yes, the K-5 was the first Pentax body that I owned which I felt the sensor 
performance was over the threshold of “good enough that I would only *want* 
rather than *need* to upgrade.
> 
> I went outside and took a couple of photos just after my daughter went to bed 
> but the light was getting a bit low.  No problem, I can crank up the ISO :)
> 
> This was taken with the FA*200mm f/2.8 at 6400ISO, 1/125 at f/5.0 handheld, 
> very much reliant on shake reduction.
> 
> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1096/#peso

Very nice photo.

> 
> I'll check whether it's on the latest firmware soon.  To their credit, 
> Ricoh's website made the manual and firmware very easy to find.
> 
> Cheers,
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Enablement (and PESO)

[David Mann]

It's been a long time since I bought anything photographic but I recently found 
a used K5ii at a reasonable price, and it arrived today.  This is a big upgrade 
from my K10D.

I went outside and took a couple of photos just after my daughter went to bed 
but the light was getting a bit low.  No problem, I can crank up the ISO :)

This was taken with the FA*200mm f/2.8 at 6400ISO, 1/125 at f/5.0 handheld, 
very much reliant on shake reduction.

http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1096/#peso

I'll check whether it's on the latest firmware soon.  To their credit, Ricoh's 
website made the manual and firmware very easy to find.

Cheers,
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PESO -- Circular Waterfall 2021 & an enablement.

[P. J. Alling]

I guess this is kind of and enablement post as well as a PESO. Ever 
since the destruction of my funky, 60's vintage Sigma* 12mm semi 
circular fish eye, which was pretty much a full frame fisheye on APS-C 
digital, I've been on the lookout for a good deal on a fisheye lens to 
use on my K-3 and K-5II.  A couple of weeks ago I was able to get a Like 
New in Box copy of the Pentax DA 10-17mm Fish Eye zoom and decided to 
test it out at Chatfield Hollow State Park, on their Circular Water 
Feature.  It was bitterly cold but the lens and camera didn't disappoint 
me, even if the rendering software did.


I've discovered something really annoying about DXO Optics Pro 9.  When 
applying corrections to the afore mentioned 10-17mm, it seriously 
defishes it by default.  I don't know how to tell it to not do this 
except by removing the lens correction module.  I'm going to contact DxO 
and ask them if they understand the point of a fish eye lens, because 
they apparently don't.


I'm too tired right now to try how to figure out how to get the full 
fish eye effect, so you'll just have to put up with the defished image 
for now.


http://webster26.epizy.com/peso/PESO--CircularWaterfall2021.html

Equipment: Pentax K-3 w/PENTAX DA 10-17mm f/3.5-4.5 ED (IF) Fish-Eye Zoom.

As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

* It wasn't labeled Sigma but that's who made those lenses, Waterhouse 
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Re: Enablement!

[Paul Stenquist]

I have a Pentax 12-24 that I will gladly part with.

Paul

> On Dec 3, 2020, at 6:11 PM, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> 
> I did a little research before buying and Sigma seems to have made a number 
> of similar lenses.  It looks like at least two slightly different variable 
> aperture versions from f4.0~5.6, though the only real information available 
> is on the latest one with the HSM focus motor, and the f3.5 constant aperture 
> version that I picked up.
> 
> It seems to be the best optically based on the reviews I've read, and based 
> on the pluses and minuses, probably better than the other 3rd party variable 
> aperture APS-c ultra wide zooms in the range from 10mm to 2Xmm, maybe even 
> better than the low end Nikon and Canon offerings.
> 
> So far I haven't shot anything except stupid tests.
> 
> I went out for a Drive to scenic Stonington CT., but didn't see anything I 
> wanted to get out of the car for, I can't say it's real cold here, but it 
> isn't exactly warm either...
> 
>> On 12/3/2020 2:48 PM, John wrote:
>> I have that lens. I think I have that lens - there were two versions, an f/4 
>> & an f/3.5 - f/4, but I think they're both really f/4. I don't know which 
>> "version" I have.
>> 
>> It was part of a deal where I got the 10-20mm, a 35mm f/1.4 and the "Bigma" 
>> all used for $1K.
>> 
>> It's a VERY wide angle of view at 10mm (110° IIRC).
>> 
>>> On 12/2/2020 17:37:42, P. J. Alling wrote:
>>> Fun fact, Thunderbird wants to correct Enablement to Enfeeblement, could be 
>>> more right than I want to admit.
>>> 
>>> Back to my original point.  I just received my "new", refurbished actually, 
>>> Sigma 10-20mm f3.5 from KEH.com along with a Pentax silver (MZ/ZX), strap, 
>>> with snap pockets, which are just the right size for SD cards.  Both are 
>>> now proudly on my K-3.  It's a late birthday present early Christmas 
>>> present to myself.
>>> 
>>> I'll post a mini review after I have a chance to play with it a bit.
>>> 
>>> However, my first impression is pretty favorable.  This lens is one fat 
>>> stubby little sucker.  The finish is typical Sigma, feels solid in the 
>>> hand, rubberized everywhere,  focus and zoom rings are well damped, there 
>>> are no hard stops on the focus ring.
>>> 
>>> Just off the bat, it would be nice if there was a mark on the zoom ring 
>>> where the lens is at it's minimum physical length since that's somewhere 
>>> between the 17mm and 14mm focal length marks.
>>> 
>>> I've fired a couple of shots using the K-3 just to see if everything is 
>>> working correctly and it seems to be.
>>> 
>>> So why didn't I get the Pentax DA* 11-18 f2.8 or Pentax DA 12-24 f4.0? Well 
>>> price of  course in the case of the former.  The KEH.com refurbished Sigma 
>>> was Less than a quarter the cost. The 12-24 has now become difficult to 
>>> find, and the price for a "New" Sigma lens was outstanding so  I have a new 
>>> adventure.
>>> 
>> 
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Re: Enablement!

[P. J. Alling]

I did a little research before buying and Sigma seems to have made a 
number of similar lenses.  It looks like at least two slightly different 
variable aperture versions from f4.0~5.6, though the only real 
information available is on the latest one with the HSM focus motor, and 
the f3.5 constant aperture version that I picked up.


It seems to be the best optically based on the reviews I've read, and 
based on the pluses and minuses, probably better than the other 3rd 
party variable aperture APS-c ultra wide zooms in the range from 10mm to 
2Xmm, maybe even better than the low end Nikon and Canon offerings.


So far I haven't shot anything except stupid tests.

I went out for a Drive to scenic Stonington CT., but didn't see anything 
I wanted to get out of the car for, I can't say it's real cold here, but 
it isn't exactly warm either...


On 12/3/2020 2:48 PM, John wrote:
I have that lens. I think I have that lens - there were two versions, 
an f/4 & an f/3.5 - f/4, but I think they're both really f/4. I don't 
know which "version" I have.


It was part of a deal where I got the 10-20mm, a 35mm f/1.4 and the 
"Bigma" all used for $1K.


It's a VERY wide angle of view at 10mm (110° IIRC).

On 12/2/2020 17:37:42, P. J. Alling wrote:
Fun fact, Thunderbird wants to correct Enablement to Enfeeblement, 
could be more right than I want to admit.


Back to my original point.  I just received my "new", refurbished 
actually, Sigma 10-20mm f3.5 from KEH.com along with a Pentax silver 
(MZ/ZX), strap, with snap pockets, which are just the right size for 
SD cards.  Both are now proudly on my K-3.  It's a late birthday 
present early Christmas present to myself.


I'll post a mini review after I have a chance to play with it a bit.

However, my first impression is pretty favorable.  This lens is one 
fat stubby little sucker.  The finish is typical Sigma, feels solid 
in the hand, rubberized everywhere,  focus and zoom rings are well 
damped, there are no hard stops on the focus ring.


Just off the bat, it would be nice if there was a mark on the zoom 
ring where the lens is at it's minimum physical length since that's 
somewhere between the 17mm and 14mm focal length marks.


I've fired a couple of shots using the K-3 just to see if everything 
is working correctly and it seems to be.


So why didn't I get the Pentax DA* 11-18 f2.8 or Pentax DA 12-24 
f4.0? Well price of  course in the case of the former.  The KEH.com 
refurbished Sigma was Less than a quarter the cost. The 12-24 has now 
become difficult to find, and the price for a "New" Sigma lens was 
outstanding so  I have a new adventure.






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Re: Enablement!

[John]

On 12/2/2020 17:37:42, P. J. Alling wrote:
Fun fact, Thunderbird wants to correct Enablement to Enfeeblement, could be more 
right than I want to admit.




PS: You don't want to know what Thunderbird thinks some of the names on this 
list should be.



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Re: Enablement!

[John]

I have that lens. I think I have that lens - there were two versions, an f/4 & 
an f/3.5 - f/4, but I think they're both really f/4. I don't know which 
"version" I have.


It was part of a deal where I got the 10-20mm, a 35mm f/1.4 and the "Bigma" all 
used for $1K.


It's a VERY wide angle of view at 10mm (110° IIRC).

On 12/2/2020 17:37:42, P. J. Alling wrote:
Fun fact, Thunderbird wants to correct Enablement to Enfeeblement, could be more 
right than I want to admit.


Back to my original point.  I just received my "new", refurbished actually, 
Sigma 10-20mm f3.5 from KEH.com along with a Pentax silver (MZ/ZX), strap, with 
snap pockets, which are just the right size for SD cards.  Both are now proudly 
on my K-3.  It's a late birthday present early Christmas present to myself.


I'll post a mini review after I have a chance to play with it a bit.

However, my first impression is pretty favorable.  This lens is one fat stubby 
little sucker.  The finish is typical Sigma, feels solid in the hand, rubberized 
everywhere,  focus and zoom rings are well damped, there are no hard stops on 
the focus ring.


Just off the bat, it would be nice if there was a mark on the zoom ring where 
the lens is at it's minimum physical length since that's somewhere between the 
17mm and 14mm focal length marks.


I've fired a couple of shots using the K-3 just to see if everything is working 
correctly and it seems to be.


So why didn't I get the Pentax DA* 11-18 f2.8 or Pentax DA 12-24 f4.0? Well 
price of  course in the case of the former.  The KEH.com refurbished Sigma was 
Less than a quarter the cost.   The 12-24 has now become difficult to find, and 
the price for a "New" Sigma lens was outstanding so  I have a new adventure.





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Re: Enablement!

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 02.12.20 um 23:37 schrieb P. J. Alling:


Back to my original point.  I just received my "new", refurbished
actually, Sigma 10-20mm f3.5 from KEH.com


I have the slightly slower version for a number of years and I'm still
quite fond of it.

Coincidentally, I've just posted a photo taken with it on fotocommunity,
earlier tonight.

https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/baelskaai-fotoralfbe/44603350


So why didn't I get the Pentax DA* 11-18 f2.8 or Pentax DA 12-24 f4.0?


I was before the same dilemma at the time, well for me it was the Pentax
12-24 mm. A search for my usual kind of night shots taken with the
Pentax lens on various sites revealed some strong tendency to flare
around spotlights etc. so the Sigma lens won out and I've never looked back.

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Enablement!

[P. J. Alling]

Fun fact, Thunderbird wants to correct Enablement to Enfeeblement, could 
be more right than I want to admit.


Back to my original point.  I just received my "new", refurbished 
actually, Sigma 10-20mm f3.5 from KEH.com along with a Pentax silver 
(MZ/ZX), strap, with snap pockets, which are just the right size for SD 
cards.  Both are now proudly on my K-3.  It's a late birthday present 
early Christmas present to myself.


I'll post a mini review after I have a chance to play with it a bit.

However, my first impression is pretty favorable.  This lens is one fat 
stubby little sucker.  The finish is typical Sigma, feels solid in the 
hand, rubberized everywhere,  focus and zoom rings are well damped, 
there are no hard stops on the focus ring.


Just off the bat, it would be nice if there was a mark on the zoom ring 
where the lens is at it's minimum physical length since that's somewhere 
between the 17mm and 14mm focal length marks.


I've fired a couple of shots using the K-3 just to see if everything is 
working correctly and it seems to be.


So why didn't I get the Pentax DA* 11-18 f2.8 or Pentax DA 12-24 f4.0?  
Well price of  course in the case of the former.  The KEH.com 
refurbished Sigma was Less than a quarter the cost.   The 12-24 has now 
become difficult to find, and the price for a "New" Sigma lens was 
outstanding so  I have a new adventure.


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Re: GESO: bugs, butterflies and a bike.... and an enablement

[Subash Jeyan]

Thank you Rick.

On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 14:53:05 -0400
Rick Womer  wrote:

> Subash, these are lovely. I particularly like the combination of
> colors and the compostion of the common pierrot photo.
> 
> Rick
> 
> > On Aug 22, 2020, at 7:47 AM, Subash Jeyan 
> > wrote:
> > 

> > 
> > https://something-feathered.in/2020/08/22/bugs-butterflies-and-a-bike/
> > 
> > all the photos have been taken with the k3ii and the FA100/3.5.


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Re: GESO: bugs, butterflies and a bike.... and an enablement

[Rick Womer]

Subash, these are lovely. I particularly like the combination of colors and the 
compostion of the common pierrot photo.

Rick

> On Aug 22, 2020, at 7:47 AM, Subash Jeyan  wrote:
> 
> hi,
> 
> hope you've all been safe during these testing times...
> 
> like most of  us, i've been forced to work from home from the first of
> june, chennai being one of the covid hotspots in india. that is not fun
> at all because you are on call 24x7. when lockdown restrictions were
> relaxed i have been able to go out birding/butterflying...this is a
> small collection from such  trips:
> 
> https://something-feathered.in/2020/08/22/bugs-butterflies-and-a-bike/
> 
> all the photos have been taken with the k3ii and the FA100/3.5.
> 
> the enablement is not photo-related. it is a 2013 royal enfield
> thunderbird 500cc, bought second-hand. it is not all that powerful but
> it's got plenty of torque available at a relatively lower rpm and
> that's what is needed for a ride in the himalayas. that is where i
> intend to go next summer if, and that is a big if, this covid business
> gets over by then...
> 
> hope you enjoy the photos. stay safe...
> 
> ~subash
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Re: GESO: bugs, butterflies and a bike.... and an enablement

[Subash Jeyan]

thank you Dan.

On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 08:38:14 -0400
"Daniel J. Matyola"  wrote:

> Very nicely done, Subash, especially with the butterfly images!
> I wish we had that much variety here.
> 
> Dan Matyola

> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 7:50 AM Subash Jeyan 
> wrote:

> > https://something-feathered.in/2020/08/22/bugs-butterflies-and-a-bike/



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Re: GESO: bugs, butterflies and a bike.... and an enablement

[Subash Jeyan]

thank you Alan. with a 100mm you  have to get fairly close but then
shooting with a 24mp camera gives you a lot of leeway in terms of
cropping.
do you have any links to the footprints team's sojourn in india? looks
interesting.



On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 14:28:15 +0200
Alan C  wrote:

> Interesting gallery, Subash, paticularly because they all look
> familiar to me. That lens does well but it seems you have the knack
> of getting very close too.
> 
> Then, the Royal Enfield - a British make which became wholly Indian.
> The local "Voetspore" (footprints) team recently did a 3 month tour
> of India & used a variety of Royal Enfield bikes on various stages -
> a sort of promotion too. Voetspore has covered most of Africa but
> also Madagascar & India over about 10 years.
> 
> We are down to Covid stage 2 now so there is more freedom. It is
> great to venture into the Kruger Park again after being cooped up for
> so long. Hopefully we will avoid a second spike.
> 
> Alan C
> 
> On 22-Aug-20 01:47 PM, Subash Jeyan wrote:

> > https://something-feathered.in/2020/08/22/bugs-butterflies-and-a-bike/


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Re: GESO: bugs, butterflies and a bike.... and an enablement

[Subash Jeyan]

thank you Ann. hope you are keeping well...

On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 22:15:36 -0400
ann sanfedele  wrote:

> always a pleasure to view your captures in the wild.. paticularly
> like the common pierrot
> Glad you are able to get out and about to do this kind of shooting
> 
> ann
> 
> On 8/22/2020 7:47 AM, Subash Jeyan wrote:

> > https://something-feathered.in/2020/08/22/bugs-butterflies-and-a-bike/



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Re: GESO: bugs, butterflies and a bike.... and an enablement

[Subash Jeyan]

thank you Henk. it's the first time i am shooting
butterflies/dragonflies with a 100mm. until now, i have used the  DA
50-200 or the 55-300. still getting used to it...

On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 15:16:30 +0200
Henk Terhell  wrote:

> Subash, nice series of butterflies and dragonflies!
> Great to see all those species not flying around in my area.
> I usually shoot these animals at 200 mm to avoid their flying away, 
> though some don't seem to mind getting close.
> 
> Henk
> 
> 
> Op 2020-08-22 om 13:47 schreef Subash Jeyan:

> > https://something-feathered.in/2020/08/22/bugs-butterflies-and-a-bike/

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Re: GESO: bugs, butterflies and a bike.... and an enablement

[ann sanfedele]

always a pleasure to view your captures in the wild.. paticularly like 
the common pierrot

Glad you are able to get out and about to do this kind of shooting

ann

On 8/22/2020 7:47 AM, Subash Jeyan wrote:

hi,

hope you've all been safe during these testing times...

like most of  us, i've been forced to work from home from the first of
june, chennai being one of the covid hotspots in india. that is not fun
at all because you are on call 24x7. when lockdown restrictions were
relaxed i have been able to go out birding/butterflying...this is a
small collection from such  trips:

https://something-feathered.in/2020/08/22/bugs-butterflies-and-a-bike/

all the photos have been taken with the k3ii and the FA100/3.5.

the enablement is not photo-related. it is a 2013 royal enfield
thunderbird 500cc, bought second-hand. it is not all that powerful but
it's got plenty of torque available at a relatively lower rpm and
that's what is needed for a ride in the himalayas. that is where i
intend to go next summer if, and that is a big if, this covid business
gets over by then...

hope you enjoy the photos. stay safe...

~subash



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Re: GESO: bugs, butterflies and a bike.... and an enablement

[Henk Terhell]

Subash, nice series of butterflies and dragonflies!
Great to see all those species not flying around in my area.
I usually shoot these animals at 200 mm to avoid their flying away, 
though some don't seem to mind getting close.


Henk


Op 2020-08-22 om 13:47 schreef Subash Jeyan:

hi,

hope you've all been safe during these testing times...

like most of  us, i've been forced to work from home from the first of
june, chennai being one of the covid hotspots in india. that is not fun
at all because you are on call 24x7. when lockdown restrictions were
relaxed i have been able to go out birding/butterflying...this is a
small collection from such  trips:

https://something-feathered.in/2020/08/22/bugs-butterflies-and-a-bike/

all the photos have been taken with the k3ii and the FA100/3.5.

the enablement is not photo-related. it is a 2013 royal enfield
thunderbird 500cc, bought second-hand. it is not all that powerful but
it's got plenty of torque available at a relatively lower rpm and
that's what is needed for a ride in the himalayas. that is where i
intend to go next summer if, and that is a big if, this covid business
gets over by then...

hope you enjoy the photos. stay safe...

~subash




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Re: GESO: bugs, butterflies and a bike.... and an enablement

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Very nicely done, Subash, especially with the butterfly images!
I wish we had that much variety here.

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On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 7:50 AM Subash Jeyan  wrote:

> hi,
>
> hope you've all been safe during these testing times...
>
> like most of  us, i've been forced to work from home from the first of
> june, chennai being one of the covid hotspots in india. that is not fun
> at all because you are on call 24x7. when lockdown restrictions were
> relaxed i have been able to go out birding/butterflying...this is a
> small collection from such  trips:
>
> https://something-feathered.in/2020/08/22/bugs-butterflies-and-a-bike/
>
> all the photos have been taken with the k3ii and the FA100/3.5.
>
> the enablement is not photo-related. it is a 2013 royal enfield
> thunderbird 500cc, bought second-hand. it is not all that powerful but
> it's got plenty of torque available at a relatively lower rpm and
> that's what is needed for a ride in the himalayas. that is where i
> intend to go next summer if, and that is a big if, this covid business
> gets over by then...
>
> hope you enjoy the photos. stay safe...
>
> ~subash
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Re: GESO: bugs, butterflies and a bike.... and an enablement

[Alan C]

Interesting gallery, Subash, paticularly because they all look familiar 
to me. That lens does well but it seems you have the knack of getting 
very close too.


Then, the Royal Enfield - a British make which became wholly Indian. The 
local "Voetspore" (footprints) team recently did a 3 month tour of India 
& used a variety of Royal Enfield bikes on various stages - a sort of 
promotion too. Voetspore has covered most of Africa but also Madagascar 
& India over about 10 years.


We are down to Covid stage 2 now so there is more freedom. It is great 
to venture into the Kruger Park again after being cooped up for so long. 
Hopefully we will avoid a second spike.


Alan C

On 22-Aug-20 01:47 PM, Subash Jeyan wrote:

hi,

hope you've all been safe during these testing times...

like most of  us, i've been forced to work from home from the first of
june, chennai being one of the covid hotspots in india. that is not fun
at all because you are on call 24x7. when lockdown restrictions were
relaxed i have been able to go out birding/butterflying...this is a
small collection from such  trips:

https://something-feathered.in/2020/08/22/bugs-butterflies-and-a-bike/

all the photos have been taken with the k3ii and the FA100/3.5.

the enablement is not photo-related. it is a 2013 royal enfield
thunderbird 500cc, bought second-hand. it is not all that powerful but
it's got plenty of torque available at a relatively lower rpm and
that's what is needed for a ride in the himalayas. that is where i
intend to go next summer if, and that is a big if, this covid business
gets over by then...

hope you enjoy the photos. stay safe...

~subash




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GESO: bugs, butterflies and a bike.... and an enablement

[Subash Jeyan]

hi,

hope you've all been safe during these testing times...

like most of  us, i've been forced to work from home from the first of
june, chennai being one of the covid hotspots in india. that is not fun
at all because you are on call 24x7. when lockdown restrictions were
relaxed i have been able to go out birding/butterflying...this is a
small collection from such  trips:

https://something-feathered.in/2020/08/22/bugs-butterflies-and-a-bike/

all the photos have been taken with the k3ii and the FA100/3.5.

the enablement is not photo-related. it is a 2013 royal enfield
thunderbird 500cc, bought second-hand. it is not all that powerful but
it's got plenty of torque available at a relatively lower rpm and
that's what is needed for a ride in the himalayas. that is where i
intend to go next summer if, and that is a big if, this covid business
gets over by then...

hope you enjoy the photos. stay safe...

~subash

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Major enablement

[Ralf R Radermacher]

It doesn't always have to be new cameras or lenses. Just got myself a
new monitor, an EIZO CS2420, and boy am I happy with it.

My old one, also an EIZO, had almost 16,000 hours on its counter and it
was high time to get a replacement.

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Re: Enablement, (does anyone else miss these threads...)

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> On Apr 13, 2020, at 10:09 AM, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> 
> So I've finally pulled the trigger on a K-3.  KEH had one in bargain, (or as 
> anyone else would say Ex+, and I say this on having bought a "bargain" K-5II 
> from them, which not only still had the new camera smell, but had less than 
> 3000 shutter actuations),  condition.  Plus now I'll no longer have to be 
> charging two different kinds of batteries.

Congratulations.

> 
> They sent me a coupon code for 10% off, and my K20D really needs to retire as 
> backup, the poor thing is really in bad shape.

The K-3 is an incremental improvement on the K-5, and a major improvement on 
the K-20.  

> 
> So now I've joined the almost 24mp club.  Maybe I'll be able to do some 
> photography worthy of it.
> 
> P.S.  There are also a plethora of new accessories to not be able to afford.

You should have gotten a K-1, then there would be a plethora of lenses you 
can’t afford as well.


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Re: Enablement, (does anyone else miss these threads...)

[John]

Cool.

I miss being able to go out and USE my last "enablement", but I have hopes that 
someday ...


On 4/13/2020 13:09:23, P. J. Alling wrote:
So I've finally pulled the trigger on a K-3.  KEH had one in bargain, (or as 
anyone else would say Ex+, and I say this on having bought a "bargain" K-5II 
from them, which not only still had the new camera smell, but had less than 3000 
shutter actuations),  condition.  Plus now I'll no longer have to be charging 
two different kinds of batteries.


They sent me a coupon code for 10% off, and my K20D really needs to retire as 
backup, the poor thing is really in bad shape.


So now I've joined the almost 24mp club.  Maybe I'll be able to do some 
photography worthy of it.


P.S.  There are also a plethora of new accessories to not be able to afford.




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Re: Enablement, (does anyone else miss these threads...)

[Bulent Celasun]

Happy playing with that

I ilke my K3 so much because it cured my DSLR-acquision-syndrome.

Let's if it will help you in that regard.

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P. J. Alling , 13 Nis 2020 Pzt, 20:10
tarihinde şunu yazdı:
>
> So I've finally pulled the trigger on a K-3.  KEH had one in bargain,
> (or as anyone else would say Ex+, and I say this on having bought a
> "bargain" K-5II from them, which not only still had the new camera
> smell, but had less than 3000 shutter actuations),  condition.  Plus now
> I'll no longer have to be charging two different kinds of batteries.
>
> They sent me a coupon code for 10% off, and my K20D really needs to
> retire as backup, the poor thing is really in bad shape.
>
> So now I've joined the almost 24mp club.  Maybe I'll be able to do some
> photography worthy of it.
>
> P.S.  There are also a plethora of new accessories to not be able to
> afford.
>
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> idiot to use a Pentax.
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Enablement, (does anyone else miss these threads...)

[P. J. Alling]

So I've finally pulled the trigger on a K-3.  KEH had one in bargain, 
(or as anyone else would say Ex+, and I say this on having bought a 
"bargain" K-5II from them, which not only still had the new camera 
smell, but had less than 3000 shutter actuations),  condition.  Plus now 
I'll no longer have to be charging two different kinds of batteries.


They sent me a coupon code for 10% off, and my K20D really needs to 
retire as backup, the poor thing is really in bad shape.


So now I've joined the almost 24mp club.  Maybe I'll be able to do some 
photography worthy of it.


P.S.  There are also a plethora of new accessories to not be able to 
afford.


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enablement and a PESO

[Subash Jeyan]

i've just bought a new-old tokina 400/5.6 at-x sd af in exc+++
condition from ebay japan. i have of course read reviews on the net
(Mark Cassino's note on the lens with the k3 was particularly helpful
and encouraging). it has a reputation for sharpness and also CA in high
contrast situations, which most reviewers say can be handled in post. i
hope i got a sharp copy.

and while i was waiting for it i was going through my archives and
here is a birding shot, not very good, from feb 2007, taken with the
*ist DS, which i had bought towards the end of 2006, and the kit lens:

http://something-feathered.in/birding-with-the-kit-lens/

thanks for looking, subash


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Re: enablement

[Subash Jeyan]

On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 12:49:24 -0400
"P. J. Alling"  wrote:

> 

that was instructive. i don't think i'll have the stomach for it...


> I wouldn't say I've had bad luck with the lens, anyone who's seen my 
> equipment knows I don't baby it, (though in the case of the 70-210mm
> my current version looks very nice, I've been a lot more careful with
> it), the biggest problem is a lot of parts are now made of
> unobtainum, and while the outside of the lens is very robust metal or
> plastic covered metal in many cases, (though there are a lot of
> purely plastic parts), simple vibration over time, will cause some of
> the interior screws to work loose and get into places where they can
> wreak further havoc beyond the original issue of the screw coming
> loose.
> 
> The information brush is especially fragile, and is easily damaged by
> at least two different basic failures, mostly because the first
> inkling that there's something wrong with the lens is the zoom ring
> going beyond it's limits, which mangles the brush.
> 
> Once that's happened you'll have to fabricate your own brush as no 
> repairman I know of will do it for you, they don't have the tools and 
> won't improvise beyond a certain point, for fear of being blamed for 
> further problems later, and well the lens just not having that high a 
> resale value to make it worth trying to replicate such a delicate
> part.
> 
> In case you're curious, part of my information comes from partially 
> disassembling one of my lenses on my own*, part comes from the 
> information I got through email conversation with the tech who fixed
> my second lens, and part from this page
> 
> 
> 
> by a former member of this group, unfortunately now deceased, stored
> in the wayback machine.
> 
> *This not to blow my own horn by the way, I got to a point where I
> found the mangled brush and realized that I'd get no further without
> jigs and tools I just didn't have and were beyond my poor skills to
> synthesize. A shame really as the first lens was the best optically
> of the three, second being the worst, but not my much and the current
> one being somewhere between the other two, (ah, sample variation
> strikes again).
> 
> On 10/2/2018 9:00 PM, Subash Jeyan wrote:
> > i sure hope i have better luck with the lens than you've had. it
> > didn't cost much so, fingers crossed, i think it's a bargain on the
> > whole...
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 15:20:38 -0400
> > "P. J. Alling"  wrote:
> >  
> >> I've owned three of them, the biggest problem is they are getting
> >> old, first sold with the SF series bodies, (1984ish), first
> >> "successful" Pentax auto focus system.
> >>
> >> There are a number of points of failure that become more likely as
> >> the lens ages.   \
> >>
> >> The problem is that the replacement parts are all from donor lenses
> >> which have the same wear.
> >>
> >> Don't get me wrong I love the lens, but of the three I own, one is
> >> in pieces for parts to repair the second which is now jammed,
> >> which I didn't try to get repaired because I was able to buy the
> >> third, for less than the cost of the repair and shipping.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 10/2/2018 10:42 AM, Subash Jeyan wrote:  
> >>> i've just got myself an F 70-210 f4-5.6, though it'd actually be
> >>> two weeks before i get my hands on it. the reviews of the lens on
> >>> the PF were pretty good and i was curious about the images taken
> >>> with the lens. so i went to PPG to have a look. most of the
> >>> images for that lens in PPG seems to have been taken by Ken
> >>> Waller. indeed, the first 15 images or so were his. superb stuff.
> >>> recognised a few other names from the list too.
> >>>
> >>> i am glad i bought this lens though it doesn't necessary follow
> >>> that the images i make will be half as good. i was planning to
> >>> take the DA 55-300 on my trek in the himalayas next month but
> >>> wondering if i should take this lens instead (coupled with the
> >>> sigma 17-50/2.8).
> >>>
> >>> here is the PPG link for this lens if anyone else is interested:
> >>>
> >>> https://pentaxphotogallery.com/photos/gallery/query?camera==930  
> 


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Re: enablement

[P. J. Alling]

I wouldn't say I've had bad luck with the lens, anyone who's seen my 
equipment knows I don't baby it, (though in the case of the 70-210mm my 
current version looks very nice, I've been a lot more careful with it), 
the biggest problem is a lot of parts are now made of unobtainum, and 
while the outside of the lens is very robust metal or plastic covered 
metal in many cases, (though there are a lot of purely plastic parts), 
simple vibration over time, will cause some of the interior screws to 
work loose and get into places where they can wreak further havoc beyond 
the original issue of the screw coming loose.


The information brush is especially fragile, and is easily damaged by at 
least two different basic failures, mostly because the first inkling 
that there's something wrong with the lens is the zoom ring going beyond 
it's limits, which mangles the brush.


Once that's happened you'll have to fabricate your own brush as no 
repairman I know of will do it for you, they don't have the tools and 
won't improvise beyond a certain point, for fear of being blamed for 
further problems later, and well the lens just not having that high a 
resale value to make it worth trying to replicate such a delicate part.


In case you're curious, part of my information comes from partially 
disassembling one of my lenses on my own*, part comes from the 
information I got through email conversation with the tech who fixed my 
second lens, and part from this page




by a former member of this group, unfortunately now deceased, stored in 
the wayback machine.


*This not to blow my own horn by the way, I got to a point where I found 
the mangled brush and realized that I'd get no further without jigs and 
tools I just didn't have and were beyond my poor skills to synthesize.  
A shame really as the first lens was the best optically of the three, 
second being the worst, but not my much and the current one being 
somewhere between the other two, (ah, sample variation strikes again).


On 10/2/2018 9:00 PM, Subash Jeyan wrote:

i sure hope i have better luck with the lens than you've had. it didn't
cost much so, fingers crossed, i think it's a bargain on the whole...


On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 15:20:38 -0400
"P. J. Alling"  wrote:


I've owned three of them, the biggest problem is they are getting
old, first sold with the SF series bodies, (1984ish), first
"successful" Pentax auto focus system.

There are a number of points of failure that become more likely as
the lens ages.   \

The problem is that the replacement parts are all from donor lenses
which have the same wear.

Don't get me wrong I love the lens, but of the three I own, one is in
pieces for parts to repair the second which is now jammed, which I
didn't try to get repaired because I was able to buy the third, for
less than the cost of the repair and shipping.


On 10/2/2018 10:42 AM, Subash Jeyan wrote:

i've just got myself an F 70-210 f4-5.6, though it'd actually be two
weeks before i get my hands on it. the reviews of the lens on the PF
were pretty good and i was curious about the images taken with the
lens. so i went to PPG to have a look. most of the images for that
lens in PPG seems to have been taken by Ken Waller. indeed, the
first 15 images or so were his. superb stuff. recognised a few
other names from the list too.

i am glad i bought this lens though it doesn't necessary follow that
the images i make will be half as good. i was planning to take the
DA 55-300 on my trek in the himalayas next month but wondering if i
should take this lens instead (coupled with the sigma 17-50/2.8).

here is the PPG link for this lens if anyone else is interested:

https://pentaxphotogallery.com/photos/gallery/query?camera==930


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Re: enablement

[Subash Jeyan]

all 48 of them stunning. i am looking forward to the lens.


On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 14:17:37 -0400
"Ken Waller"  wrote:

> I've had the lens for over 29 years and it has never let me down.
> Probably my most used lens or right up there.
> I enjoy the relative small size and light weight. Biggest no like is
> the external focusing which conflicts with the use of a polarizer,
> but that's easily overcome by rotating the polarizer after focusing.
> Actually I counted 48 of the total 84 images were mine.
> 
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Subash Jeyan" 
> Subject: enablement
> 
> 
> > i've just got myself an F 70-210 f4-5.6, though it'd actually be two
> > weeks before i get my hands on it. the reviews of the lens on the PF
> > were pretty good and i was curious about the images taken with the
> > lens. so i went to PPG to have a look. most of the images for that
> > lens in PPG seems to have been taken by Ken Waller. indeed, the
> > first 15 images or so were his. superb stuff. recognised a few
> > other names from the list too.
> >
> > i am glad i bought this lens though it doesn't necessary follow that
> > the images i make will be half as good. i was planning to take the
> > DA 55-300 on my trek in the himalayas next month but wondering if i
> > should take this lens instead (coupled with the sigma 17-50/2.8).
> >
> > here is the PPG link for this lens if anyone else is interested:
> >
> > https://pentaxphotogallery.com/photos/gallery/query?camera==930


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[Subash Jeyan]

Yes, i saw that shot in the PPG too... i guess i'll be shooting quite a
lot when i get it because it is a "new" lens but i'll decide nearer to
the trek whether i should take it or the 55-300. expecting to do some
birding on the trek so i suspect it'll be the 55-300. 

thanks for your inputs, Igor.


On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 13:37:21 -0400 (EDT)
Igor PDML-StR  wrote:

> Subash,
> 
> I also have that lens. I've purchased it some 15 years ago, while
> looking for a better tele-zoom, to replace my Tamron 70-300, while
> still being on a limited budget. I bought it from eBay for a bit
> higher than I should have, but it was a moment when they seemed to
> have been disappearing.
> 
> It's a fine lens, and I've done a few good shots with it.
> (As a matter of fact, I believe the "cover" shot on my photo website
> was done with that lens: http://42graphy.org/  Heh! it shows up on
> PPG - from that link that you've sent)
> However, for some reason, I didn't fell in love with that lens, as
> much as I liked 60-250/2.8, which I purchased several years later,
> when I had a larger budget.
> 
> I still have that lens sitting on the shelf, but it's been ages since 
> I've used it.
> Soon after purchasing that F 70-210, I bought the first version of 
> Tamron's super-zoom (18-250) (shortly as it came on the market around 
> 2007) which I had used as a travel zoom for several years.
> The rendering of F 70-210 was good, but the focal length was a bit
> short for my needs on the tele side.
> And that lens was not faster than the Tamron zoom. I think those were 
> the factors I haven't used F 70-210 as much.
> 
> Yet, I was reluctant to get rid of it.
> 
> 
> I hope you will enjoy your new lens! Post back your results and 
> impressions, once you get to use that lens.
> 
> Igor
> 
> 
> Subash Jeyan Tue, 02 Oct 2018 07:43:25 -0700 wrote:
> 
> i've just got myself an F 70-210 f4-5.6, though it'd actually be two
> weeks before i get my hands on it. the reviews of the lens on the PF
> were pretty good and i was curious about the images taken with the
> lens. so i went to PPG to have a look. most of the images for that
> lens in PPG seems to have been taken by Ken Waller. indeed, the first
> 15 images or so were his. superb stuff. recognised a few other names
> from the list too.
> 
> 
> i am glad i bought this lens though it doesn't necessary follow that
> the images i make will be half as good. i was planning to take the DA
> 55-300 on my trek in the himalayas next month but wondering if i
> should take this lens instead (coupled with the sigma 17-50/2.8).
> 
> here is the PPG link for this lens if anyone else is interested:
> 
> https://pentaxphotogallery.com/photos/gallery/query?camera==930
> 
> 
> subash
> 


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[Subash Jeyan]

i sure hope i have better luck with the lens than you've had. it didn't
cost much so, fingers crossed, i think it's a bargain on the whole...


On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 15:20:38 -0400
"P. J. Alling"  wrote:

> I've owned three of them, the biggest problem is they are getting
> old, first sold with the SF series bodies, (1984ish), first
> "successful" Pentax auto focus system.
> 
> There are a number of points of failure that become more likely as
> the lens ages.   \
> 
> The problem is that the replacement parts are all from donor lenses 
> which have the same wear.
> 
> Don't get me wrong I love the lens, but of the three I own, one is in 
> pieces for parts to repair the second which is now jammed, which I 
> didn't try to get repaired because I was able to buy the third, for
> less than the cost of the repair and shipping.
> 
> 
> On 10/2/2018 10:42 AM, Subash Jeyan wrote:
> > i've just got myself an F 70-210 f4-5.6, though it'd actually be two
> > weeks before i get my hands on it. the reviews of the lens on the PF
> > were pretty good and i was curious about the images taken with the
> > lens. so i went to PPG to have a look. most of the images for that
> > lens in PPG seems to have been taken by Ken Waller. indeed, the
> > first 15 images or so were his. superb stuff. recognised a few
> > other names from the list too.
> >
> > i am glad i bought this lens though it doesn't necessary follow that
> > the images i make will be half as good. i was planning to take the
> > DA 55-300 on my trek in the himalayas next month but wondering if i
> > should take this lens instead (coupled with the sigma 17-50/2.8).
> >
> > here is the PPG link for this lens if anyone else is interested:
> >
> > https://pentaxphotogallery.com/photos/gallery/query?camera==930

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Re: enablement

[Subash Jeyan]

thanks Alan. because i expect to do some birding too, i think i'll take
the 55-300. but i look forward to the lens nevertheless.


On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 20:05:20 +0200
Alan C  wrote:

> Subash, I still have one from film days & I must say it's pretty
> good. However, I prefer my HD 55-300  (greater range & even better)
> so my poor F 70-210 hardly sees the light of day.
> 
> Alan C.
> 
> On 02-Oct-18 04:42 PM, Subash Jeyan wrote:
> > i've just got myself an F 70-210 f4-5.6, though it'd actually be two
> > weeks before i get my hands on it. the reviews of the lens on the PF
> > were pretty good and i was curious about the images taken with the
> > lens. so i went to PPG to have a look. most of the images for that
> > lens in PPG seems to have been taken by Ken Waller. indeed, the
> > first 15 images or so were his. superb stuff. recognised a few
> > other names from the list too.
> >
> > i am glad i bought this lens though it doesn't necessary follow that
> > the images i make will be half as good. i was planning to take the
> > DA 55-300 on my trek in the himalayas next month but wondering if i
> > should take this lens instead (coupled with the sigma 17-50/2.8).
> >
> > here is the PPG link for this lens if anyone else is interested:
> >
> > https://pentaxphotogallery.com/photos/gallery/query?camera==930

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Re: enablement

[P. J. Alling]

I've owned three of them, the biggest problem is they are getting old, 
first sold with the SF series bodies, (1984ish), first "successful" 
Pentax auto focus system.


There are a number of points of failure that become more likely as the 
lens ages.   \


The problem is that the replacement parts are all from donor lenses 
which have the same wear.


Don't get me wrong I love the lens, but of the three I own, one is in 
pieces for parts to repair the second which is now jammed, which I 
didn't try to get repaired because I was able to buy the third, for less 
than the cost of the repair and shipping.



On 10/2/2018 10:42 AM, Subash Jeyan wrote:

i've just got myself an F 70-210 f4-5.6, though it'd actually be two
weeks before i get my hands on it. the reviews of the lens on the PF
were pretty good and i was curious about the images taken with the
lens. so i went to PPG to have a look. most of the images for that lens
in PPG seems to have been taken by Ken Waller. indeed, the first 15
images or so were his. superb stuff. recognised a few other names from
the list too.

i am glad i bought this lens though it doesn't necessary follow that
the images i make will be half as good. i was planning to take the DA
55-300 on my trek in the himalayas next month but wondering if i should
take this lens instead (coupled with the sigma 17-50/2.8).

here is the PPG link for this lens if anyone else is interested:

https://pentaxphotogallery.com/photos/gallery/query?camera==930


subash



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Re: enablement

[Ken Waller]

I've had the lens for over 29 years and it has never let me down. Probably 
my most used lens or right up there.
I enjoy the relative small size and light weight. Biggest no like is the 
external focusing which conflicts with the use of a polarizer, but that's 
easily overcome by rotating the polarizer after focusing. Actually I counted 
48 of the total 84 images were mine.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: "Subash Jeyan" 

Subject: enablement



i've just got myself an F 70-210 f4-5.6, though it'd actually be two
weeks before i get my hands on it. the reviews of the lens on the PF
were pretty good and i was curious about the images taken with the
lens. so i went to PPG to have a look. most of the images for that lens
in PPG seems to have been taken by Ken Waller. indeed, the first 15
images or so were his. superb stuff. recognised a few other names from
the list too.

i am glad i bought this lens though it doesn't necessary follow that
the images i make will be half as good. i was planning to take the DA
55-300 on my trek in the himalayas next month but wondering if i should
take this lens instead (coupled with the sigma 17-50/2.8).

here is the PPG link for this lens if anyone else is interested:

https://pentaxphotogallery.com/photos/gallery/query?camera==930


subash



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Re: enablement

[Alan C]

Subash, I still have one from film days & I must say it's pretty good. 
However, I prefer my HD 55-300  (greater range & even better) so my poor 
F 70-210 hardly sees the light of day.


Alan C.

On 02-Oct-18 04:42 PM, Subash Jeyan wrote:

i've just got myself an F 70-210 f4-5.6, though it'd actually be two
weeks before i get my hands on it. the reviews of the lens on the PF
were pretty good and i was curious about the images taken with the
lens. so i went to PPG to have a look. most of the images for that lens
in PPG seems to have been taken by Ken Waller. indeed, the first 15
images or so were his. superb stuff. recognised a few other names from
the list too.

i am glad i bought this lens though it doesn't necessary follow that
the images i make will be half as good. i was planning to take the DA
55-300 on my trek in the himalayas next month but wondering if i should
take this lens instead (coupled with the sigma 17-50/2.8).

here is the PPG link for this lens if anyone else is interested:

https://pentaxphotogallery.com/photos/gallery/query?camera==930


subash




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Re: enablement

[Igor PDML-StR]

Subash,

I also have that lens. I've purchased it some 15 years ago, while looking 
for a better tele-zoom, to replace my Tamron 70-300, while still being on 
a limited budget. I bought it from eBay for a bit higher than I should 
have, but it was a moment when they seemed to have been disappearing.


It's a fine lens, and I've done a few good shots with it.
(As a matter of fact, I believe the "cover" shot on my photo website was 
done with that lens: http://42graphy.org/  Heh! it shows up on PPG - from 
that link that you've sent)
However, for some reason, I didn't fell in love with that lens, as much as 
I liked 60-250/2.8, which I purchased several years later, when I had a 
larger budget.


I still have that lens sitting on the shelf, but it's been ages since 
I've used it.
Soon after purchasing that F 70-210, I bought the first version of 
Tamron's super-zoom (18-250) (shortly as it came on the market around 
2007) which I had used as a travel zoom for several years.
The rendering of F 70-210 was good, but the focal length was a bit short 
for my needs on the tele side.
And that lens was not faster than the Tamron zoom. I think those were 
the factors I haven't used F 70-210 as much.


Yet, I was reluctant to get rid of it.


I hope you will enjoy your new lens! Post back your results and 
impressions, once you get to use that lens.


Igor


Subash Jeyan Tue, 02 Oct 2018 07:43:25 -0700 wrote:

i've just got myself an F 70-210 f4-5.6, though it'd actually be two
weeks before i get my hands on it. the reviews of the lens on the PF
were pretty good and i was curious about the images taken with the
lens. so i went to PPG to have a look. most of the images for that lens
in PPG seems to have been taken by Ken Waller. indeed, the first 15
images or so were his. superb stuff. recognised a few other names from
the list too.


i am glad i bought this lens though it doesn't necessary follow that
the images i make will be half as good. i was planning to take the DA
55-300 on my trek in the himalayas next month but wondering if i should
take this lens instead (coupled with the sigma 17-50/2.8).

here is the PPG link for this lens if anyone else is interested:

https://pentaxphotogallery.com/photos/gallery/query?camera==930


subash

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Re: enablement

[Jack Davis]

The 55-300 would have, also, been
a great companion and with more
reach on both ends.  I've, also, heard the cry that one cannot have too many 
lenses.

J

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> On Oct 2, 2018, at 7:42 AM, Subash Jeyan  wrote:
> 
> i've just got myself an F 70-210 f4-5.6, though it'd actually be two
> weeks before i get my hands on it. the reviews of the lens on the PF
> were pretty good and i was curious about the images taken with the
> lens. so i went to PPG to have a look. most of the images for that lens
> in PPG seems to have been taken by Ken Waller. indeed, the first 15
> images or so were his. superb stuff. recognised a few other names from
> the list too. 
> 
> i am glad i bought this lens though it doesn't necessary follow that
> the images i make will be half as good. i was planning to take the DA
> 55-300 on my trek in the himalayas next month but wondering if i should
> take this lens instead (coupled with the sigma 17-50/2.8).
> 
> here is the PPG link for this lens if anyone else is interested:
> 
> https://pentaxphotogallery.com/photos/gallery/query?camera==930
> 
> 
> subash
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enablement

[Subash Jeyan]

i've just got myself an F 70-210 f4-5.6, though it'd actually be two
weeks before i get my hands on it. the reviews of the lens on the PF
were pretty good and i was curious about the images taken with the
lens. so i went to PPG to have a look. most of the images for that lens
in PPG seems to have been taken by Ken Waller. indeed, the first 15
images or so were his. superb stuff. recognised a few other names from
the list too. 

i am glad i bought this lens though it doesn't necessary follow that
the images i make will be half as good. i was planning to take the DA
55-300 on my trek in the himalayas next month but wondering if i should
take this lens instead (coupled with the sigma 17-50/2.8).

here is the PPG link for this lens if anyone else is interested:

https://pentaxphotogallery.com/photos/gallery/query?camera==930


subash

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Re: Enablement (thanks to the Theta SC price drop)

[Darren Addy]

I somehow missed the earlier announcement of an upcoming Theta 4K,
which will be introduced sometime this year. If I like what I can do
with the SC, it sounds like the 4K is the one that will produce good
video and would be the one I would potentially upgrade to instead of
the S model.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1333693-REG/ricoh_theta_360_degree_camera.html
https://theta360.com/en/info/news/2017-04-21/

Also, reading reviews, it seems that people like "3rd Party" apps for
use with the Theta, than the Ricoh one. Need to do more research on
that. The App Store on my iPad Mini 4 shows a number of possibilities
when searching for "camera control for Ricoh Theta". Several apps
claim to do HDR for the Theta also.

Darren Addy
Kearney, Nebraska

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 2:57 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:
> Hadn't really seriously looked at the Theta until this: Price drop
> info 
> http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/ricoh-announces-199-price-for-theta-sc-360-camera-300479364.html
>
> Decided for this price that I should dip my toe in the waters of 360
> degree video (particularly since I can hang it from a drone). In my
> future may be a full blown S (with 25 minutes of video capability vs
> the 5 minutes of the SC). 360 degree stills might be interesting for
> Real Estate work also. It will also be another camera to have running
> JUST before totality hits on August 21st.
> :)
>
> Original announcement was only last October:
> https://www.forbes.com/sites/geoffreymorrison/2016/10/12/ricoh-theta-sc-360-camera-preview/
>
> Pentax page for the SC: https://theta360.com/uk/about/theta/sc.html
>
> I was about to order it from Amazon when my WikiBuy extension notified
> me I could save $19 by purchasing from B To my surprise, not only
> did I save the state tax, but also got to select a free Theta soft
> case (I chose the black one with a [just plain silly] $39 suggested
> retail.
>
> Darren Addy
> Kearney, NE
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> ― Yann Arthus-Bertrand, Earth from Above



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Enablement (thanks to the Theta SC price drop)

[Darren Addy]

Hadn't really seriously looked at the Theta until this: Price drop
info 
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/ricoh-announces-199-price-for-theta-sc-360-camera-300479364.html

Decided for this price that I should dip my toe in the waters of 360
degree video (particularly since I can hang it from a drone). In my
future may be a full blown S (with 25 minutes of video capability vs
the 5 minutes of the SC). 360 degree stills might be interesting for
Real Estate work also. It will also be another camera to have running
JUST before totality hits on August 21st.
:)

Original announcement was only last October:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/geoffreymorrison/2016/10/12/ricoh-theta-sc-360-camera-preview/

Pentax page for the SC: https://theta360.com/uk/about/theta/sc.html

I was about to order it from Amazon when my WikiBuy extension notified
me I could save $19 by purchasing from B To my surprise, not only
did I save the state tax, but also got to select a free Theta soft
case (I chose the black one with a [just plain silly] $39 suggested
retail.

Darren Addy
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OT: Alternative enablement

[Darren Addy]

Made a couple of boss-approved purchases yesterday that I will be
using for work (non-Pentax, thus the OT)

The first is the DJI Mavic Pro, a compact drone with 4K video
capability. For anyone interested, or considering such a thing, this
This guy may seem annoying at first, but he’s pretty funny and yet has
a lot of really good info:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPG1Xa5Uqwo

The last couple of minutes have actual footage captured on the Mavic.
You can click the gear in the YouTube player and up the YouTube
resolution to 1080p HD and make the video Full Screen to see how good
it looks.In my opinion, this is the most kick ass drone available to
the prosumer today. I got the "Fly More" package and added the $99
protection package that will replace the drone up to two times in the
first year.

For a much more attractive reviewer (from the heterosexual male
perspective) see this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPG1Xa5Uqwo
She shows lots of features that the other guy did not cover.

A lot of the shots that I use this drone for will be INDOOR shots, so
its capabilities to fly indoors (and even via WiFi) may be very useful
to me. In addition, this drone has the ability to stay up a lot longer
(27 minutes!?!) and fly in less than calm conditions (since we don't
get a lot of calm wind days in Nebraska, this is important to being
able to get the shots needed for exterior aerials shots.

The 2nd purchase was a Sony RX100 V, which is being purchased for
basically ONE capability only: It's HFR (high frame rate) which allows
for super slow motion. My employer owns three injection molding plants
and those molds sometimes have issues with ejecting parts properly,
and we have taken to using video (converted to QuickTime, so we can
"step" through the frames). I'm hopeful that the RX100 V will allow us
to get clearer images than those from our Canon Vixia HF G20. Using
the Sony's "Shoot Time Priority" the most you can shoot is 7 seconds
at 480 fps, but I believe that will be more than sufficient to capture
the part ejection event, if we time our shutter button press
appropriately. To help with that I also ordered the Sony RM-VPR1
Remote Control multi-terminal cable.
These videos shows the sort of stuff that can be done with the various
frame rates:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh01mmZTtnI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRsyIs9JfZM
(Note: previous model IV. The V has extended capabilities in this
regard, over the IV.)
If you need slow-mo video, this camera seems to be the most bang-for-the-buck.

Finally, I'm upgrading my tripod and head for video. I'm finally
getting a proper fluid head (again, being a bang-for-the-buck guy I
went with the well reviewed E-Image GH03 Fluid Head:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=invoice=details==1100020=REG
For the tripod, I went with the Manfrotto MT190CXPro4
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=invoice=details==1010693=REG

If you are in the market for a tripod, I recommend wathing the MT
Series videos on that page. I love how it converts to horizontal
column mode and can get down to just 3.2" when needed.

Darren Addy
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RE: Enablement

[Malcolm Smith]

P. J. Alling wrote:

Well if what you need is better high ISO capability, they I can't argue with
that.  I'm just pointing out that it's not particularly compact compared to
it's two immediate predecessors, but all the reviewers and Ricoh itself seem
to be making a big deal over it.

The K-3 took a pretty big hit in battery longevity over the K-5 family with
the same battery.  There seems to be a smaller hit taken with the KP with a
smaller battery, merely for the "appearance" of a smaller camera.

I'm not buying the hype about size, plus there's a lot of people who think
that keeping the same metaphor in camera controls is boring, but there's a
reason that Canon hasn't made a major change in it's camera body design in
unpteen zillion years.

If you pick up a Canon camera, and you've used an EOS built in say the last
20 years, you know pretty much know where everything is and how it works.

I've moved from a *ist-D in conjunction with a Ds, to a K20D, then to a
K-5II each time there's always been a serious period of adjustment.  I
sometimes still find myself trying to press the green button on the K-5II
and end up pressing the exposure compensation button, and the K-5II has been
my primary camera for about three years now.  I still occasionally shoot
with the K20D, and I have to get used to it all over again

__

I take your point on the size. The battery is a pain, and I'll have to order
another on Monday, as I can't swap them about.

I've not found swapping cameras about a problem, but I do use different
cameras regularly .My *ist D got used yesterday (I still like that camera,
it feels right in the hand).

Malcolm


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Re: Enablement

[P. J. Alling]

Well if what you need is better high ISO capability, they I can't argue 
with that.  I'm just pointing out that it's not particularly compact 
compared to it's two immediate predecessors, but all the reviewers and 
Ricoh itself seem to be making a big deal over it.


The K-3 took a pretty big hit in battery longevity over the K-5 family 
with the same battery.  There seems to be a smaller hit taken with the 
KP with a smaller battery, merely for the "appearance" of a smaller camera.


I'm not buying the hype about size, plus there's a lot of people who 
think that keeping the same metaphor in camera controls is boring, but 
there's a reason that Canon hasn't made a major change in it's camera 
body design in unpteen zillion years.


If you pick up a Canon camera, and you've used an EOS built in say the 
last 20 years, you know pretty much know where everything is and how it 
works.


I've moved from a *ist-D in conjunction with a Ds, to a K20D, then to a 
K-5II each time there's always been a serious period of adjustment.  I 
sometimes still find myself trying to press the green button on the 
K-5II and end up pressing the exposure compensation button, and the 
K-5II has been my primary camera for about three years now.  I still 
occasionally shoot with the K20D, and I have to get used to it all over 
again


On 2/25/2017 10:30 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote:

P. J. Alling wrote:

Alright in the first two paragraphs I already have issues with this review.
First there are the incorrect terms, the reviewer confused mechanical with
manual (as in "manual shutter"), then there's the size issue.

The reviewer talks about it's compact size.  Well go to Camera size and
compare it to the K-5II  and the
K-3  there is no significant
difference in size! It will take up exactly the same room in your bag, and
if you use the deep grip, in your hand.

Hyping how much smaller it is than a K-3, then comparing it to a mirrorless
camera is foolish, unless it's a Panasonic DMC-GH3 and even that is about
30% lighter!

It's a lower spec K-3 crippled by it's smaller battery, with a K-1-ish UI a
slightly improved AF module, and all new battery grip, the one for the K-3.
Maybe it's high ISO performance is a bit better, or maybe not.  But I'm not
excited about it.  There are too many steps backward for the two steps
forward.

_

Having now held it, I can make a reply. My cameras live in the same bag
whilst I'm out, so in the bag it doesn't matter if it's a KP or  K1 sized.
There seems to be a rush to make things smaller. The size reduction wasn't
the selling point to me, only the higher ISO capability. By making it
smaller the big trade off to me is the new battery and charger, which I
consider a negative. I like interchangeability.

Maybe there is a market for smaller cameras that I'm missing the point of. I
would still have happily bought the KP if it had been the size of the K3, or
indeed, a K1.

Anyway, that's as much as I can say about it until I've used it for a while
and learnt more about it. First impressions are that it will do the job I
wanted it too.

Malcolm





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RE: Enablement

[Malcolm Smith]

P. J. Alling wrote:

Alright in the first two paragraphs I already have issues with this review.
First there are the incorrect terms, the reviewer confused mechanical with
manual (as in "manual shutter"), then there's the size issue.

The reviewer talks about it's compact size.  Well go to Camera size and
compare it to the K-5II  and the
K-3  there is no significant
difference in size! It will take up exactly the same room in your bag, and
if you use the deep grip, in your hand.

Hyping how much smaller it is than a K-3, then comparing it to a mirrorless
camera is foolish, unless it's a Panasonic DMC-GH3 and even that is about
30% lighter!

It's a lower spec K-3 crippled by it's smaller battery, with a K-1-ish UI a
slightly improved AF module, and all new battery grip, the one for the K-3.
Maybe it's high ISO performance is a bit better, or maybe not.  But I'm not
excited about it.  There are too many steps backward for the two steps
forward.

_

Having now held it, I can make a reply. My cameras live in the same bag
whilst I'm out, so in the bag it doesn't matter if it's a KP or  K1 sized.
There seems to be a rush to make things smaller. The size reduction wasn't
the selling point to me, only the higher ISO capability. By making it
smaller the big trade off to me is the new battery and charger, which I
consider a negative. I like interchangeability.

Maybe there is a market for smaller cameras that I'm missing the point of. I
would still have happily bought the KP if it had been the size of the K3, or
indeed, a K1.

Anyway, that's as much as I can say about it until I've used it for a while
and learnt more about it. First impressions are that it will do the job I
wanted it too.

Malcolm


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Re: K-1 Enablement

[John]

There is a difference between wanting a new camera and needing one.

If I bought a new camera only when I needed one, I'd probably still be
shooting with the K10D. If we all did that, Pentax - and most every
other manufacturer other than Canon & Nikon - would be out of business
by now.

On 2/24/2017 2:28 PM, Bill wrote:

On 2/24/2017 8:36 AM, Mark C wrote:



I did the upgrade to 32 gb / 8 cores / SSD last year, so I should be
prepared. I use Zerene Stacker for larger stacks and it is more
efficient with memory than is PS, though I usually combine multiple ZS
stacks in PS. I'm sure things will feel a bit more sluggish working with
K-1 files, but 6x7 scans weigh in at 560 megs so they can be demanding
as well.

Mark




FWIW, I was one of the people who kept saying FF was no big deal, APS-C
is just fine..
Until I got the K1.

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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Bill]

On 2/24/2017 2:13 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

I find it's a Really Bad Idea to keep these vintage computing
anecdotes in mind, though. All that does is hamper you when you are
deciding how to accomplish many computing tasks. If you keep on
thinking that 400 megabytes is enormous, you will miss opportunities
like stacking multiple images.


You are full of it tonight. Go have another joint. :)





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Re: K-1 Enablement

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On 2/24/2017 1:56 PM, Gonz wrote:

In the 80's, a company I worked for had the big room with raised
floors for all the computing equipment.  One day, after we had been
chronically short on disk space, a huge box came in.  It was a washing
machine sized disk drive from Fujitsu, that came with the whopping
capacity of 400Mbytes.  We were overjoyed.



I worked for a full service photo lab in the early 80s that was hooked 
up to Kodak's Technet. We had a computer that was about as big as a 
fridge. The hard drives were massive, and I have no idea how much data 
it stored. It wasn't much.
We had 2 Gretag 3140 printers. We talked to them via a teletype, the 
program was on about a hundred feet of paper tape, and I believe the old 
machine was 8K of memory, the newer machine was 16K of memory, but I 
could be wrong, they might both have been 16k.
The computer had a row of switches across the front that had to be set 
in the correct sequence for the machine to boot.
They ran about 8000 6"x4" prints per hour, approximately 15 seconds for 
a 36 exposure roll of film.




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[Bruce Walker]

And you could have sold it to one of the many folks keeping old
PDP-11's alive these days.

They really were art. They were hand-stitched and really cool looking objects.


On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Gonz  wrote:
> Haha, when they dismantled a PDP-11 with 8K core at school, I was
> thinking: hmm I should take this core memory and keep it as a memento,
> but alas, I did not.  Now I wish I had.  It was art.
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 2:13 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>> I find it's a Really Bad Idea to keep these vintage computing
>> anecdotes in mind, though. All that does is hamper you when you are
>> deciding how to accomplish many computing tasks. If you keep on
>> thinking that 400 megabytes is enormous, you will miss opportunities
>> like stacking multiple images.
>>
>> I remember how much getting a second 4K core plane (12 bit words!) did
>> for my PDP-8/e assembler programs. :)
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Gonz  wrote:
>>> In the 80's, a company I worked for had the big room with raised
>>> floors for all the computing equipment.  One day, after we had been
>>> chronically short on disk space, a huge box came in.  It was a washing
>>> machine sized disk drive from Fujitsu, that came with the whopping
>>> capacity of 400Mbytes.  We were overjoyed.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 8:36 AM, Mark C  wrote:
 On 2/23/2017 6:33 PM, Bill wrote:
>
> I've been doing a lot of focus stacked macros with pixel shift. The level
> of detail goes up quite a bit, and blown out reds seem to be a thing of 
> the
> past as well.
> The only downside is that a couple of dozen K1 pixel shift files stacked
> up in Photoshop take all 32 GB of memory and then some, so unless you 
> have a
> smokin' hot box, you may find yourself wanting to upgrade.
> I don't miss my 6x7 any more.
>
> bill


 I did the upgrade to 32 gb / 8 cores / SSD last year, so I should be
 prepared. I use Zerene Stacker for larger stacks and it is more efficient
 with memory than is PS, though I usually combine multiple ZS stacks in PS.
 I'm sure things will feel a bit more sluggish working with K-1 files, but
 6x7 scans weigh in at 560 megs so they can be demanding as well.

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Re: K-1 Enablement

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Haha, when they dismantled a PDP-11 with 8K core at school, I was
thinking: hmm I should take this core memory and keep it as a memento,
but alas, I did not.  Now I wish I had.  It was art.


On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 2:13 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> I find it's a Really Bad Idea to keep these vintage computing
> anecdotes in mind, though. All that does is hamper you when you are
> deciding how to accomplish many computing tasks. If you keep on
> thinking that 400 megabytes is enormous, you will miss opportunities
> like stacking multiple images.
>
> I remember how much getting a second 4K core plane (12 bit words!) did
> for my PDP-8/e assembler programs. :)
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Gonz  wrote:
>> In the 80's, a company I worked for had the big room with raised
>> floors for all the computing equipment.  One day, after we had been
>> chronically short on disk space, a huge box came in.  It was a washing
>> machine sized disk drive from Fujitsu, that came with the whopping
>> capacity of 400Mbytes.  We were overjoyed.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 8:36 AM, Mark C  wrote:
>>> On 2/23/2017 6:33 PM, Bill wrote:

 I've been doing a lot of focus stacked macros with pixel shift. The level
 of detail goes up quite a bit, and blown out reds seem to be a thing of the
 past as well.
 The only downside is that a couple of dozen K1 pixel shift files stacked
 up in Photoshop take all 32 GB of memory and then some, so unless you have 
 a
 smokin' hot box, you may find yourself wanting to upgrade.
 I don't miss my 6x7 any more.

 bill
>>>
>>>
>>> I did the upgrade to 32 gb / 8 cores / SSD last year, so I should be
>>> prepared. I use Zerene Stacker for larger stacks and it is more efficient
>>> with memory than is PS, though I usually combine multiple ZS stacks in PS.
>>> I'm sure things will feel a bit more sluggish working with K-1 files, but
>>> 6x7 scans weigh in at 560 megs so they can be demanding as well.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Bruce Walker]

I find it's a Really Bad Idea to keep these vintage computing
anecdotes in mind, though. All that does is hamper you when you are
deciding how to accomplish many computing tasks. If you keep on
thinking that 400 megabytes is enormous, you will miss opportunities
like stacking multiple images.

I remember how much getting a second 4K core plane (12 bit words!) did
for my PDP-8/e assembler programs. :)


On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Gonz  wrote:
> In the 80's, a company I worked for had the big room with raised
> floors for all the computing equipment.  One day, after we had been
> chronically short on disk space, a huge box came in.  It was a washing
> machine sized disk drive from Fujitsu, that came with the whopping
> capacity of 400Mbytes.  We were overjoyed.
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 8:36 AM, Mark C  wrote:
>> On 2/23/2017 6:33 PM, Bill wrote:
>>>
>>> I've been doing a lot of focus stacked macros with pixel shift. The level
>>> of detail goes up quite a bit, and blown out reds seem to be a thing of the
>>> past as well.
>>> The only downside is that a couple of dozen K1 pixel shift files stacked
>>> up in Photoshop take all 32 GB of memory and then some, so unless you have a
>>> smokin' hot box, you may find yourself wanting to upgrade.
>>> I don't miss my 6x7 any more.
>>>
>>> bill
>>
>>
>> I did the upgrade to 32 gb / 8 cores / SSD last year, so I should be
>> prepared. I use Zerene Stacker for larger stacks and it is more efficient
>> with memory than is PS, though I usually combine multiple ZS stacks in PS.
>> I'm sure things will feel a bit more sluggish working with K-1 files, but
>> 6x7 scans weigh in at 560 megs so they can be demanding as well.
>>
>> Mark
>>
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Re: K-1 Enablement

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In the 80's, a company I worked for had the big room with raised
floors for all the computing equipment.  One day, after we had been
chronically short on disk space, a huge box came in.  It was a washing
machine sized disk drive from Fujitsu, that came with the whopping
capacity of 400Mbytes.  We were overjoyed.


On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 8:36 AM, Mark C  wrote:
> On 2/23/2017 6:33 PM, Bill wrote:
>>
>> I've been doing a lot of focus stacked macros with pixel shift. The level
>> of detail goes up quite a bit, and blown out reds seem to be a thing of the
>> past as well.
>> The only downside is that a couple of dozen K1 pixel shift files stacked
>> up in Photoshop take all 32 GB of memory and then some, so unless you have a
>> smokin' hot box, you may find yourself wanting to upgrade.
>> I don't miss my 6x7 any more.
>>
>> bill
>
>
> I did the upgrade to 32 gb / 8 cores / SSD last year, so I should be
> prepared. I use Zerene Stacker for larger stacks and it is more efficient
> with memory than is PS, though I usually combine multiple ZS stacks in PS.
> I'm sure things will feel a bit more sluggish working with K-1 files, but
> 6x7 scans weigh in at 560 megs so they can be demanding as well.
>
> Mark
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Re: K-1 Enablement

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On 2/24/2017 8:36 AM, Mark C wrote:



I did the upgrade to 32 gb / 8 cores / SSD last year, so I should be
prepared. I use Zerene Stacker for larger stacks and it is more
efficient with memory than is PS, though I usually combine multiple ZS
stacks in PS. I'm sure things will feel a bit more sluggish working with
K-1 files, but 6x7 scans weigh in at 560 megs so they can be demanding
as well.

Mark



FWIW, I was one of the people who kept saying FF was no big deal, APS-C 
is just fine..

Until I got the K1.

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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Mark C]

On 2/23/2017 6:33 PM, Bill wrote:
I've been doing a lot of focus stacked macros with pixel shift. The 
level of detail goes up quite a bit, and blown out reds seem to be a 
thing of the past as well.
The only downside is that a couple of dozen K1 pixel shift files 
stacked up in Photoshop take all 32 GB of memory and then some, so 
unless you have a smokin' hot box, you may find yourself wanting to 
upgrade.

I don't miss my 6x7 any more.

bill


I did the upgrade to 32 gb / 8 cores / SSD last year, so I should be 
prepared. I use Zerene Stacker for larger stacks and it is more 
efficient with memory than is PS, though I usually combine multiple ZS 
stacks in PS. I'm sure things will feel a bit more sluggish working with 
K-1 files, but 6x7 scans weigh in at 560 megs so they can be demanding 
as well.


Mark



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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Mark C]

Glad to hear about the weight - it was one concern that I had, seems 
like a lot to lug around while traveling etc. For a general purpose zoom 
in situations where I don't want to carry a second lens I prefer the 
extra reach that the 28-105 gives.


Mark

On 2/23/2017 5:48 PM, Henk Terhell wrote:
Mark, good choice. I got mine with the 28-105  a week ago and am still 
very much in the learning curve.
I was a bit worried about the size and weight of the K-1 when walking 
around, but  so far this is acceptable.

Now I'm trying my old prime lenses, but the 28-205 is also fine.

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[Mark C]

On 2/22/2017 11:48 PM, Larry Colen wrote:


Congratulations.  The K-1 is a nice piece of kit, and I look forward 
to seeing what it can do in your hands. Although, I can't help but 
wonder if you'd be able to do more with your macros using the new K-p, 
the sample photos I saw showed it giving the K-1 a run for its money 
in high ISO, and it does have a smaller pixel pitch (24 vs 18 MP in 
APS). For just about everything else, except maybe long telephoto 
work, I expect the K-1 is still a much nicer camera though. 


I gave some thought to the K-3ii and K-P since either would also have 
pixel shift.  APS-C has some advantages for macro work in that the image 
does not have to be magnified as much to fill the frame. But ultimately 
the K-1 seemed to be the way to go. The only drawback to the K-1 that I 
see is that it might trigger an LBA relapse.


Mark

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That should read Series 1 90/2.5 macro

Paul via phone

> On Feb 23, 2017, at 8:13 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> I really liked my Vivitar Series 2 90/2.5 macro. It was a heavy metal lens, 
> the first version of this iconic lens. Wonderful bokeh and very sharp. Still 
> bummed that it's gone.
> 
> Paul via phone
> 
>> On Feb 23, 2017, at 8:07 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>> 
>> Yep. I bought one at B Found a slightly used one on eBay for $420, but 
>> decided it wasn't worth the risk, and opted to pay  $539 at B No 
>> shipping, no sales tax collected.
>> 
>> Paul via phone
>> 
>>> On Feb 23, 2017, at 7:56 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Paul Stenquist wrote:
 I think I want the 100/2.8 as well. Good reviews.
>>> 
>>> The tamron 90/2.8 is a very nice lens, but I wanted WR because I do a lot 
>>> of my macro work outside, and it is often a bit damp outside. The Pentax 
>>> 100 does seem to be just a dab more fairy dust than the Tamron 90, and is 
>>> also just a little bit sharper.
>>> 
>>> 
 
 Paul via phone
 
> On Feb 23, 2017, at 7:16 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> Bill, what macro lens do you use? I was happy with my 90/2.5 Vivitar for 
>> many years, but I think it was stolen by a painter who worked here last 
>> year. I need a new macro.
> I've got a Tamron 90/2.8 272E that I need to put up for sale. I found a 
> too good to resist offer on a 100/2.8 WR.  If you're interested, make me 
> an offer.
> 
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I really liked my Vivitar Series 2 90/2.5 macro. It was a heavy metal lens, the 
first version of this iconic lens. Wonderful bokeh and very sharp. Still bummed 
that it's gone.

Paul via phone

> On Feb 23, 2017, at 8:07 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> Yep. I bought one at B Found a slightly used one on eBay for $420, but 
> decided it wasn't worth the risk, and opted to pay  $539 at B No shipping, 
> no sales tax collected.
> 
> Paul via phone
> 
>> On Feb 23, 2017, at 7:56 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>> I think I want the 100/2.8 as well. Good reviews.
>> 
>> The tamron 90/2.8 is a very nice lens, but I wanted WR because I do a lot of 
>> my macro work outside, and it is often a bit damp outside. The Pentax 100 
>> does seem to be just a dab more fairy dust than the Tamron 90, and is also 
>> just a little bit sharper.
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Paul via phone
>>> 
 On Feb 23, 2017, at 7:16 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
 
 
 
 Paul Stenquist wrote:
> Bill, what macro lens do you use? I was happy with my 90/2.5 Vivitar for 
> many years, but I think it was stolen by a painter who worked here last 
> year. I need a new macro.
 I've got a Tamron 90/2.8 272E that I need to put up for sale. I found a 
 too good to resist offer on a 100/2.8 WR.  If you're interested, make me 
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[Paul Stenquist]

Yep. I bought one at B Found a slightly used one on eBay for $420, but 
decided it wasn't worth the risk, and opted to pay  $539 at B No shipping, 
no sales tax collected.

Paul via phone

> On Feb 23, 2017, at 7:56 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> I think I want the 100/2.8 as well. Good reviews.
> 
> The tamron 90/2.8 is a very nice lens, but I wanted WR because I do a lot of 
> my macro work outside, and it is often a bit damp outside. The Pentax 100 
> does seem to be just a dab more fairy dust than the Tamron 90, and is also 
> just a little bit sharper.
> 
> 
>> 
>> Paul via phone
>> 
>>> On Feb 23, 2017, at 7:16 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Bill, what macro lens do you use? I was happy with my 90/2.5 Vivitar for 
 many years, but I think it was stolen by a painter who worked here last 
 year. I need a new macro.
>>> I've got a Tamron 90/2.8 272E that I need to put up for sale. I found a too 
>>> good to resist offer on a 100/2.8 WR.  If you're interested, make me an 
>>> offer.
>>> 
>>> 
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Paul Stenquist wrote:

I think I want the 100/2.8 as well. Good reviews.


The tamron 90/2.8 is a very nice lens, but I wanted WR because I do a 
lot of my macro work outside, and it is often a bit damp outside. The 
Pentax 100 does seem to be just a dab more fairy dust than the Tamron 
90, and is also just a little bit sharper.





Paul via phone


On Feb 23, 2017, at 7:16 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:



Paul Stenquist wrote:

Bill, what macro lens do you use? I was happy with my 90/2.5 Vivitar for many 
years, but I think it was stolen by a painter who worked here last year. I need 
a new macro.

I've got a Tamron 90/2.8 272E that I need to put up for sale. I found a too 
good to resist offer on a 100/2.8 WR.  If you're interested, make me an offer.



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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Paul Stenquist]

I think I want the 100/2.8 as well. Good reviews.

Paul via phone

> On Feb 23, 2017, at 7:16 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> Bill, what macro lens do you use? I was happy with my 90/2.5 Vivitar for 
>> many years, but I think it was stolen by a painter who worked here last 
>> year. I need a new macro.
> 
> I've got a Tamron 90/2.8 272E that I need to put up for sale. I found a too 
> good to resist offer on a 100/2.8 WR.  If you're interested, make me an offer.
> 
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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Larry Colen]

Paul Stenquist wrote:

Bill, what macro lens do you use? I was happy with my 90/2.5 Vivitar for many 
years, but I think it was stolen by a painter who worked here last year. I need 
a new macro.


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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Paul Stenquist]

Bill, what macro lens do you use? I was happy with my 90/2.5 Vivitar for many 
years, but I think it was stolen by a painter who worked here last year. I need 
a new macro.

Paul via phone

> On Feb 23, 2017, at 6:33 PM, Bill  wrote:
> 
>> On 2/23/2017 12:48 PM, Mark C wrote:
>> I've been doing some macros lately using continuous lighting and am
>> hoping that doing them in Pixel Shift mode would make a difference,
>> though the level of detail is already pretty good. I have to say that
>> for macros some of the benefits of a full frame sensor are offset by the
>> need to achieve higher overall magnification so I considered the K-3ii
>> or the K-p which also offer pixel shift.  But I think that the extra
>> megapixels and improved IQ from a full frame sensor will make it worth
>> while.
>> 
>> I also see the K-1 replacing my 6x7 for landscape work. While a have no
>> reservations about using the K-3 for landscapes I still prefer the
>> results from a 6x7 negative. From what I read the K-1 is a marvelous
>> landscape tool and I hope to put it to good use in that context as well.
> 
> I've been doing a lot of focus stacked macros with pixel shift. The level of 
> detail goes up quite a bit, and blown out reds seem to be a thing of the past 
> as well.
> The only downside is that a couple of dozen K1 pixel shift files stacked up 
> in Photoshop take all 32 GB of memory and then some, so unless you have a 
> smokin' hot box, you may find yourself wanting to upgrade.
> I don't miss my 6x7 any more.
> 
> bill
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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Bill]

On 2/23/2017 12:48 PM, Mark C wrote:

I've been doing some macros lately using continuous lighting and am
hoping that doing them in Pixel Shift mode would make a difference,
though the level of detail is already pretty good. I have to say that
for macros some of the benefits of a full frame sensor are offset by the
need to achieve higher overall magnification so I considered the K-3ii
or the K-p which also offer pixel shift.  But I think that the extra
megapixels and improved IQ from a full frame sensor will make it worth
while.

I also see the K-1 replacing my 6x7 for landscape work. While a have no
reservations about using the K-3 for landscapes I still prefer the
results from a 6x7 negative. From what I read the K-1 is a marvelous
landscape tool and I hope to put it to good use in that context as well.


I've been doing a lot of focus stacked macros with pixel shift. The 
level of detail goes up quite a bit, and blown out reds seem to be a 
thing of the past as well.
The only downside is that a couple of dozen K1 pixel shift files stacked 
up in Photoshop take all 32 GB of memory and then some, so unless you 
have a smokin' hot box, you may find yourself wanting to upgrade.

I don't miss my 6x7 any more.

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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Henk Terhell]

Mark, good choice. I got mine with the 28-105  a week ago and am still 
very much in the learning curve.
I was a bit worried about the size and weight of the K-1 when walking 
around, but  so far this is acceptable.

Now I'm trying my old prime lenses, but the 28-205 is also fine.

Henk

Op 2017-02-22 om 21:59 schreef Mark C:
I finally bit the bullet and put in an order for a K-1 today. I went 
with the 28-105 lens since the 24-70 overlaps so much with the Tamron 
28-75 that I already have. I'm looking forward to seeing how the K-1 
performs with some old film era lenses - the FA 50 f1.7, F28 f2.8, A* 
200 macro, Sigma EX 70-200 f2.8 (1st generation) and FA 20-30 f4 zoom 
in particular.  I'm hoping that the first generation SIgma lens does 
not have the mounting issue that the current version has (I found one 
comment on Pentax Forums that said it did not, but you never know). 
I'm not all that optimistic about the FA 20-35 but we'll see.


I've been doing some more stacked macros in the past couple weeks and 
the tought that I could be doing these with a much more capable camera 
than my K3 just got to be over bearing...


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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Gonz]

Awesome Mark. I only beat you by a few days.  I love it so far.  The
flexibility and configurability is overwhelming.  I've never had
aperture-bracketing before (unless I never read my previous manuals
thoroughly!), which sounds interesting.

The AF and image quality so far exceeds my expectations.  I can't wait
to take it on a good walk or a trip.  You'll be happy with it.


On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Mark C  wrote:
> I finally bit the bullet and put in an order for a K-1 today. I went with
> the 28-105 lens since the 24-70 overlaps so much with the Tamron 28-75 that
> I already have. I'm looking forward to seeing how the K-1 performs with some
> old film era lenses - the FA 50 f1.7, F28 f2.8, A* 200 macro, Sigma EX
> 70-200 f2.8 (1st generation) and FA 20-30 f4 zoom in particular.  I'm hoping
> that the first generation SIgma lens does not have the mounting issue that
> the current version has (I found one comment on Pentax Forums that said it
> did not, but you never know). I'm not all that optimistic about the FA 20-35
> but we'll see.
>
> I've been doing some more stacked macros in the past couple weeks and the
> tought that I could be doing these with a much more capable camera than my
> K3 just got to be over bearing...
>
> Mark
>
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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Mark C]

Looking forward to getting my hands on it tomorrow. I also want to test 
the Tokina ATX 400 f5.6. Its proven to be a good performer on APS-C 
bodies, we'll see WRT full frame.


On 2/22/2017 4:51 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Congratulations. I love that camera. I think Len has been using his with the A* 
200 macro. I use the K 85/1'8 now and then and the A 50/1.2. It's quite easy to 
focus manually, with the in-foxes light being quite accurate. I use the D FA 
lenses for the most part: the 24-70/2.8, the 15-30/2.8 and the 150-450/ 4-5.6. 
I also use the DA* 60-250/4 quite often. It vignettes just a bit, and I shoot 
in crop mode if I'm in a situation where I don't want to deal with that.

Paul via phone


On Feb 22, 2017, at 3:59 PM, Mark C  wrote:

I finally bit the bullet and put in an order for a K-1 today. I went with the 
28-105 lens since the 24-70 overlaps so much with the Tamron 28-75 that I 
already have. I'm looking forward to seeing how the K-1 performs with some old 
film era lenses - the FA 50 f1.7, F28 f2.8, A* 200 macro, Sigma EX 70-200 f2.8 
(1st generation) and FA 20-30 f4 zoom in particular.  I'm hoping that the first 
generation SIgma lens does not have the mounting issue that the current version 
has (I found one comment on Pentax Forums that said it did not, but you never 
know). I'm not all that optimistic about the FA 20-35 but we'll see.

I've been doing some more stacked macros in the past couple weeks and the 
tought that I could be doing these with a much more capable camera than my K3 
just got to be over bearing...

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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Ken Waller]

Thanks Mark.

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http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark C" <pdml-m...@charter.net>

Subject: Re: K-1 Enablement


I've been doing some macros lately using continuous lighting and am 
hoping that doing them in Pixel Shift mode would make a difference, 
though the level of detail is already pretty good. I have to say that 
for macros some of the benefits of a full frame sensor are offset by the 
need to achieve higher overall magnification so I considered the K-3ii 
or the K-p which also offer pixel shift.  But I think that the extra 
megapixels and improved IQ from a full frame sensor will make it worth 
while.


I also see the K-1 replacing my 6x7 for landscape work. While a have no 
reservations about using the K-3 for landscapes I still prefer the 
results from a 6x7 negative. From what I read the K-1 is a marvelous 
landscape tool and I hope to put it to good use in that context as well.


Mark



On 2/22/2017 9:19 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
Sounds good Mark, but I wonder what advantages do you expect of the 
K-1 over the K-3?


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: "Mark C" <pdml-m...@charter.net>
Subject: K-1 Enablement


I finally bit the bullet and put in an order for a K-1 today. I went 
with the 28-105 lens since the 24-70 overlaps so much with the Tamron 
28-75 that I already have. I'm looking forward to seeing how the K-1 
performs with some old film era lenses - the FA 50 f1.7, F28 f2.8, A* 
200 macro, Sigma EX 70-200 f2.8 (1st generation) and FA 20-30 f4 zoom 
in particular.  I'm hoping that the first generation SIgma lens does 
not have the mounting issue that the current version has (I found one 
comment on Pentax Forums that said it did not, but you never know). 
I'm not all that optimistic about the FA 20-35 but we'll see.


I've been doing some more stacked macros in the past couple weeks and 
the tought that I could be doing these with a much more capable 
camera than my K3 just got to be over bearing...


Mark



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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Mark C]

I've been doing some macros lately using continuous lighting and am 
hoping that doing them in Pixel Shift mode would make a difference, 
though the level of detail is already pretty good. I have to say that 
for macros some of the benefits of a full frame sensor are offset by the 
need to achieve higher overall magnification so I considered the K-3ii 
or the K-p which also offer pixel shift.  But I think that the extra 
megapixels and improved IQ from a full frame sensor will make it worth 
while.


I also see the K-1 replacing my 6x7 for landscape work. While a have no 
reservations about using the K-3 for landscapes I still prefer the 
results from a 6x7 negative. From what I read the K-1 is a marvelous 
landscape tool and I hope to put it to good use in that context as well.


Mark



On 2/22/2017 9:19 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
Sounds good Mark, but I wonder what advantages do you expect of the 
K-1 over the K-3?


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: "Mark C" <pdml-m...@charter.net>
Subject: K-1 Enablement


I finally bit the bullet and put in an order for a K-1 today. I went 
with the 28-105 lens since the 24-70 overlaps so much with the Tamron 
28-75 that I already have. I'm looking forward to seeing how the K-1 
performs with some old film era lenses - the FA 50 f1.7, F28 f2.8, A* 
200 macro, Sigma EX 70-200 f2.8 (1st generation) and FA 20-30 f4 zoom 
in particular.  I'm hoping that the first generation SIgma lens does 
not have the mounting issue that the current version has (I found one 
comment on Pentax Forums that said it did not, but you never know). 
I'm not all that optimistic about the FA 20-35 but we'll see.


I've been doing some more stacked macros in the past couple weeks and 
the tought that I could be doing these with a much more capable 
camera than my K3 just got to be over bearing...


Mark






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Re: Enablement

[P. J. Alling]

That should read "the one for the K-3 will not fit."  Oh well I get 
excited, but not about the new camera.



On 2/23/2017 11:01 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
Alright in the first two paragraphs I already have issues with this 
review.  First there are the incorrect terms, the reviewer confused 
mechanical with manual (as in "manual shutter"), then there's the size 
issue.


The reviewer talks about it's compact size.  Well go to Camera size 
and compare it to the K-5II  
and the K-3  there is no 
significant difference in size! It will take up exactly the same room 
in your bag, and if you use the deep grip, in your hand.


Hyping how much smaller it is than a K-3, then comparing it to a 
mirrorless camera is foolish, unless it's a Panasonic DMC-GH3 and even 
that is about 30% lighter!


It's a lower spec K-3 crippled by it's smaller battery, with a K-1-ish 
UI a slightly improved AF module, and all new battery grip, the one 
for the K-3.  Maybe it's high ISO performance is a bit better, or 
maybe not.  But I'm not excited about it.  There are too many steps 
backward for the two steps forward.



On 2/23/2017 3:41 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

Just after I posted this reply I ran across this review:
http://www.mycameratravels.com/pentax-kp-hands-on-experience-review/



Larry Colen wrote:



Malcolm Smith wrote:

In the hope this one finally gets through, I've seen few posts about
the KP.



The project I'm trying to work on involves me going out at dusk in low
light
(an ongoing urban fox project), and whilst I don't expect any of the
really
high ISO images to be useful, I was surprised at how good sample
photos have
appeared. Anyway, with a very good part exchange deal on a very old 
but

working fine K100D, I pre-ordered one a week ago.



I have no idea if I'm buying into something good or bad, but the 
deed is

done. I'm told they arrive at the end of the month.


They look very promising. I look forward to hearing your thoughts on 
it.

I was very impressed by the high ISO performance I saw in the samples.











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Re: Enablement

[P. J. Alling]

Alright in the first two paragraphs I already have issues with this 
review.  First there are the incorrect terms, the reviewer confused 
mechanical with manual (as in "manual shutter"), then there's the size 
issue.


The reviewer talks about it's compact size.  Well go to Camera size and 
compare it to the K-5II  and the 
K-3  there is no significant 
difference in size! It will take up exactly the same room in your bag, 
and if you use the deep grip, in your hand.


Hyping how much smaller it is than a K-3, then comparing it to a 
mirrorless camera is foolish, unless it's a Panasonic DMC-GH3 and even 
that is about 30% lighter!


It's a lower spec K-3 crippled by it's smaller battery, with a K-1-ish 
UI a slightly improved AF module, and all new battery grip, the one for 
the K-3.  Maybe it's high ISO performance is a bit better, or maybe 
not.  But I'm not excited about it.  There are too many steps backward 
for the two steps forward.



On 2/23/2017 3:41 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

Just after I posted this reply I ran across this review:
http://www.mycameratravels.com/pentax-kp-hands-on-experience-review/



Larry Colen wrote:



Malcolm Smith wrote:

In the hope this one finally gets through, I've seen few posts about
the KP.



The project I'm trying to work on involves me going out at dusk in low
light
(an ongoing urban fox project), and whilst I don't expect any of the
really
high ISO images to be useful, I was surprised at how good sample
photos have
appeared. Anyway, with a very good part exchange deal on a very old but
working fine K100D, I pre-ordered one a week ago.



I have no idea if I'm buying into something good or bad, but the 
deed is

done. I'm told they arrive at the end of the month.


They look very promising. I look forward to hearing your thoughts on it.
I was very impressed by the high ISO performance I saw in the samples.








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RE: Enablement KP

[Malcolm Smith]

Following up my earlier reply, they are obviously already ready to go, as
I've just received a parcel tracking number!

Malcolm

Larry Colen wrote:

Just after I posted this reply I ran across this review:
http://www.mycameratravels.com/pentax-kp-hands-on-experience-review/



Thanks Larry, I'd not seen that review. More from me on this, hopefully
around the start of March.

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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Paul Stenquist]

I find that in comparison to the K-3, which is an excellent camera, the K-1 has 
better high ISO performance, better autofocus, particularly in low light, and 
all those extra pixels to play with when I want to crop a horizontal as a 
vertical. My only complaint is in regard to the overly tight clustering of the 
autofocus points.

Paul via phone

> On Feb 22, 2017, at 9:19 PM, Ken Waller <kwal...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
> 
> Sounds good Mark, but I wonder what advantages do you expect of the K-1 over 
> the K-3?
> 
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Mark C" <pdml-m...@charter.net>
> Subject: K-1 Enablement
> 
> 
>> I finally bit the bullet and put in an order for a K-1 today. I went with 
>> the 28-105 lens since the 24-70 overlaps so much with the Tamron 28-75 that 
>> I already have. I'm looking forward to seeing how the K-1 performs with some 
>> old film era lenses - the FA 50 f1.7, F28 f2.8, A* 200 macro, Sigma EX 
>> 70-200 f2.8 (1st generation) and FA 20-30 f4 zoom in particular.  I'm hoping 
>> that the first generation SIgma lens does not have the mounting issue that 
>> the current version has (I found one comment on Pentax Forums that said it 
>> did not, but you never know). I'm not all that optimistic about the FA 20-35 
>> but we'll see.
>> 
>> I've been doing some more stacked macros in the past couple weeks and the 
>> tought that I could be doing these with a much more capable camera than my 
>> K3 just got to be over bearing...
>> 
>> Mark
> 
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[Malcolm Smith]

Larry Colen wrote:

Just after I posted this reply I ran across this review:
http://www.mycameratravels.com/pentax-kp-hands-on-experience-review/



Thanks Larry, I'd not seen that review. More from me on this, hopefully
around the start of March.

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[Larry Colen]

Just after I posted this reply I ran across this review:
http://www.mycameratravels.com/pentax-kp-hands-on-experience-review/



Larry Colen wrote:



Malcolm Smith wrote:

In the hope this one finally gets through, I've seen few posts about
the KP.



The project I'm trying to work on involves me going out at dusk in low
light
(an ongoing urban fox project), and whilst I don't expect any of the
really
high ISO images to be useful, I was surprised at how good sample
photos have
appeared. Anyway, with a very good part exchange deal on a very old but
working fine K100D, I pre-ordered one a week ago.



I have no idea if I'm buying into something good or bad, but the deed is
done. I'm told they arrive at the end of the month.


They look very promising. I look forward to hearing your thoughts on it.
I was very impressed by the high ISO performance I saw in the samples.





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Re: Enablement

[Larry Colen]

Malcolm Smith wrote:

In the hope this one finally gets through, I've seen few posts about the KP.



The project I'm trying to work on involves me going out at dusk in low light
(an ongoing urban fox project), and whilst I don't expect any of the really
high ISO images to be useful, I was surprised at how good sample photos have
appeared. Anyway, with a very good part exchange deal on a very old but
working fine K100D, I pre-ordered one a week ago.



I have no idea if I'm buying into something good or bad, but the deed is
done. I'm told they arrive at the end of the month.


They look very promising.  I look forward to hearing your thoughts on 
it.  I was very impressed by the high ISO performance I saw in the samples.




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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Larry Colen]

Mark C wrote:

I finally bit the bullet and put in an order for a K-1 today. I went
with the 28-105 lens since the 24-70 overlaps so much with the Tamron
28-75 that I already have. I'm looking forward to seeing how the K-1
performs with some old film era lenses - the FA 50 f1.7, F28 f2.8, A*
200 macro, Sigma EX 70-200 f2.8 (1st generation) and FA 20-30 f4 zoom in
particular. I'm hoping that the first generation SIgma lens does not
have the mounting issue that the current version has (I found one
comment on Pentax Forums that said it did not, but you never know). I'm
not all that optimistic about the FA 20-35 but we'll see.


Congratulations.  The K-1 is a nice piece of kit, and I look forward to 
seeing what it can do in your hands. Although, I can't help but wonder 
if you'd be able to do more with your macros using the new K-p, the 
sample photos I saw showed it giving the K-1 a run for its money in high 
ISO, and it does have a smaller pixel pitch (24 vs 18 MP in APS). For 
just about everything else, except maybe long telephoto work, I expect 
the K-1 is still a much nicer camera though.




I've been doing some more stacked macros in the past couple weeks and
the tought that I could be doing these with a much more capable camera
than my K3 just got to be over bearing...

Mark




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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Alan C]

Hey, cool it man. I haven't progressed to the K5 yet, let alone a K3 or a 
K1.  Mark's old K7 is still doing OK.


Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Ken Waller

Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 4:19 AM
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Subject: Re: K-1 Enablement

Sounds good Mark, but I wonder what advantages do you expect of the K-1 over
the K-3?

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark C" <pdml-m...@charter.net>

Subject: K-1 Enablement


I finally bit the bullet and put in an order for a K-1 today. I went with 
the 28-105 lens since the 24-70 overlaps so much with the Tamron 28-75 that 
I already have. I'm looking forward to seeing how the K-1 performs with 
some old film era lenses - the FA 50 f1.7, F28 f2.8, A* 200 macro, Sigma EX 
70-200 f2.8 (1st generation) and FA 20-30 f4 zoom in particular.  I'm 
hoping that the first generation SIgma lens does not have the mounting 
issue that the current version has (I found one comment on Pentax Forums 
that said it did not, but you never know). I'm not all that optimistic 
about the FA 20-35 but we'll see.


I've been doing some more stacked macros in the past couple weeks and the 
tought that I could be doing these with a much more capable camera than my 
K3 just got to be over bearing...


Mark



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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Paul Stenquist]

My bad. Thought you made the move.

Paul via phone

On Feb 22, 2017, at 9:43 PM, Ken Waller <kwal...@peoplepc.com> wrote:

>> I meant to say, I think Ken has been using his with the A* 200 macro
> 
> I use my A*200 on a K-3, I don't have a K-1.
> 
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" <pnstenqu...@mac.com>
> Subject: Re: K-1 Enablement
> 
> 
>> I meant to say, I think Ken has been using his with the A* 200 macro.
>> 
>> Paul via phone
>> 
>>> On Feb 22, 2017, at 4:51 PM, Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@mac.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Congratulations. I love that camera. I think Len has been using his with 
>>> the A* 200 macro. I use the K 85/1'8 now and then and the A 50/1.2. It's 
>>> quite easy to focus manually, with the in-foxes light being quite accurate. 
>>> I use the D FA lenses for the most part: the 24-70/2.8, the 15-30/2.8 and 
>>> the 150-450/ 4-5.6. I also use the DA* 60-250/4 quite often. It vignettes 
>>> just a bit, and I shoot in crop mode if I'm in a situation where I don't 
>>> want to deal with that.
>>> 
>>> Paul via phone
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 22, 2017, at 3:59 PM, Mark C <pdml-m...@charter.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I finally bit the bullet and put in an order for a K-1 today. I went with 
>>>> the 28-105 lens since the 24-70 overlaps so much with the Tamron 28-75 
>>>> that I already have. I'm looking forward to seeing how the K-1 performs 
>>>> with some old film era lenses - the FA 50 f1.7, F28 f2.8, A* 200 macro, 
>>>> Sigma EX 70-200 f2.8 (1st generation) and FA 20-30 f4 zoom in particular.  
>>>> I'm hoping that the first generation SIgma lens does not have the mounting 
>>>> issue that the current version has (I found one comment on Pentax Forums 
>>>> that said it did not, but you never know). I'm not all that optimistic 
>>>> about the FA 20-35 but we'll see.
>>>> 
>>>> I've been doing some more stacked macros in the past couple weeks and the 
>>>> tought that I could be doing these with a much more capable camera than my 
>>>> K3 just got to be over bearing...
>>>> 
>>>> Mark
> 
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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Ken Waller]

I meant to say, I think Ken has been using his with the A* 200 macro


I use my A*200 on a K-3, I don't have a K-1.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Stenquist" <pnstenqu...@mac.com>

Subject: Re: K-1 Enablement



I meant to say, I think Ken has been using his with the A* 200 macro.

Paul via phone


On Feb 22, 2017, at 4:51 PM, Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@mac.com> wrote:

Congratulations. I love that camera. I think Len has been using his with 
the A* 200 macro. I use the K 85/1'8 now and then and the A 50/1.2. It's 
quite easy to focus manually, with the in-foxes light being quite 
accurate. I use the D FA lenses for the most part: the 24-70/2.8, the 
15-30/2.8 and the 150-450/ 4-5.6. I also use the DA* 60-250/4 quite 
often. It vignettes just a bit, and I shoot in crop mode if I'm in a 
situation where I don't want to deal with that.


Paul via phone


On Feb 22, 2017, at 3:59 PM, Mark C <pdml-m...@charter.net> wrote:

I finally bit the bullet and put in an order for a K-1 today. I went 
with the 28-105 lens since the 24-70 overlaps so much with the Tamron 
28-75 that I already have. I'm looking forward to seeing how the K-1 
performs with some old film era lenses - the FA 50 f1.7, F28 f2.8, A* 
200 macro, Sigma EX 70-200 f2.8 (1st generation) and FA 20-30 f4 zoom in 
particular.  I'm hoping that the first generation SIgma lens does not 
have the mounting issue that the current version has (I found one 
comment on Pentax Forums that said it did not, but you never know). I'm 
not all that optimistic about the FA 20-35 but we'll see.


I've been doing some more stacked macros in the past couple weeks and 
the tought that I could be doing these with a much more capable camera 
than my K3 just got to be over bearing...


Mark



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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Ken Waller]

Sounds good Mark, but I wonder what advantages do you expect of the K-1 over 
the K-3?


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark C" <pdml-m...@charter.net>

Subject: K-1 Enablement


I finally bit the bullet and put in an order for a K-1 today. I went with 
the 28-105 lens since the 24-70 overlaps so much with the Tamron 28-75 that 
I already have. I'm looking forward to seeing how the K-1 performs with 
some old film era lenses - the FA 50 f1.7, F28 f2.8, A* 200 macro, Sigma EX 
70-200 f2.8 (1st generation) and FA 20-30 f4 zoom in particular.  I'm 
hoping that the first generation SIgma lens does not have the mounting 
issue that the current version has (I found one comment on Pentax Forums 
that said it did not, but you never know). I'm not all that optimistic 
about the FA 20-35 but we'll see.


I've been doing some more stacked macros in the past couple weeks and the 
tought that I could be doing these with a much more capable camera than my 
K3 just got to be over bearing...


Mark



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Re: Enablement

[Steve Cottrell]

On 22/2/17, Malcolm Smith, discombobulated, unleashed:

>The project I'm trying to work on involves me going out at dusk in low light
>(an ongoing urban fox project), and whilst I don't expect any of the really
>high ISO images to be useful, I was surprised at how good sample photos have
>appeared. Anyway, with a very good part exchange deal on a very old but
>working fine K100D, I pre-ordered one a week ago.
>
> 
>
>I have no idea if I'm buying into something good or bad, but the deed is
>done. I'm told they arrive at the end of the month.

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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Philip Northeast]

The only issue I have with my  Sigma 35mm f1.4 Art lens is the K1 
automatically sets the field of view to crop mode. I just leave the 
camera on the full frame setting.




Philip Northeast

www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au

On 23/2/17 7:59 am, Mark C wrote:

I finally bit the bullet and put in an order for a K-1 today. I went
with the 28-105 lens since the 24-70 overlaps so much with the Tamron
28-75 that I already have. I'm looking forward to seeing how the K-1
performs with some old film era lenses - the FA 50 f1.7, F28 f2.8, A*
200 macro, Sigma EX 70-200 f2.8 (1st generation) and FA 20-30 f4 zoom in
particular.  I'm hoping that the first generation SIgma lens does not
have the mounting issue that the current version has (I found one
comment on Pentax Forums that said it did not, but you never know). I'm
not all that optimistic about the FA 20-35 but we'll see.

I've been doing some more stacked macros in the past couple weeks and
the tought that I could be doing these with a much more capable camera
than my K3 just got to be over bearing...

Mark




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