Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame

2010-02-25 Thread Steven Desjardins
I think they show figure out the best star pattern for the flag and
divide Canada accordingly.  Preferably before the gold medal game.

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 What the hell Ken.  Be generous.  Give them 3 states, 51st for the
 Frenchies, 52nd for Ontario, and 53rd for the west.
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

 - Original Message - From: frank theriault
 knarftheria...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame


 On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:

 Boris wins the Grand Prize!

 A thread entitled On FF but without intent to start a flame has an
 additional 100 responses counting this one and no flames.

 No flames?  We'll see about that:

 I think all handguns should be banned, no exceptions.

 I think it's legitimate and morally right to consider abortion as a
 form of birth control.

 Obama's health care bill doesn't go nearly far enough.  Screw
 bipartisanism, he should just ram the bill through.  It's for the good
 of the people.

 God is dead.
 ***

 Discuss among yourselves...

 you forgot to add Canada becomming the 51 st state !


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Need advice on a picture (Warning: high cute kitty index)

2010-02-25 Thread Steven Desjardins
I'm submitting a picture for an SPCA charity event, i.e., if someone
buys it the SPCA keeps the money.  This will be a print.  I'd like to
hear some of your expert suggestions.

http://chemistry.wlu.edu/~desjardins/

Please ignore the title on the webpage.  I forgot to change it ;-)

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Re: Need advice on a picture (Warning: high cute kitty index)

2010-02-25 Thread Steven Desjardins
Nice catch.  I hadn't even noticed that.

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 1:16 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 From: Steven Desjardins

 I'm submitting a picture for an SPCA charity event, i.e., if someone
 buys it the SPCA keeps the money.  This will be a print.  I'd like to
 hear some of your expert suggestions.

 http://chemistry.wlu.edu/~desjardins/

 I would photoshop out the left-most catch-light, so that there is only a
 single light in each eye. The double catch-light in the other eye is joined
 together, so it appears as one light.

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Re: PESO - Bike Parking at Night

2010-02-25 Thread Steven Desjardins
Really good.

So, I guess the K-x guys are going to all be submitting shots taken in
near darkness? I find this one of the most interesting developments
for digital photography.  Maybe you could push film this hard, but
never this easily.  In some ways this changes the kind of pictures
you can take.

On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote:
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/mawz/4384094299/

 K-x, DA 18-55 II, ISO 6400, No NR whatsoever (RAW with NR turned off
 in CaptureOne).

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Re: PESO - Young Man Wearing a Hat

2010-02-25 Thread Steven Desjardins
Nice hat and awesome brows  ;-)

On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:44 PM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 A street portrait:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/02/young-man-wearing-hat.html

 Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.

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Re: Let's not bitch about Pentax... Let's bitch about Adobe.

2010-02-26 Thread Steven Desjardins
If you do punch him, tell him Steve says Hey

On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
 News flash: Besides the other installation nightmares, I just
 discovered that the CS4 suite installed itself on my C: drive even
 though the installation/setup process asked me where to install and I
 specified the D: drive. Now I have several gigabytes of application
 files clogging up a drive which until now had been reserved strictly
 for the operating system.

 If I ever meet a programmer from Adobe it'll take all my willpower to
 resist immediately punching him in the face. What assholes.


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Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame

2010-02-28 Thread Steven Desjardins
I hadn't looked at this thread in a while.  Clearly the Pentax FF
issue is far more complicated than I realized.

On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 12:11 AM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 2/27/2010 12:50 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

 From: P. J. Alling

 On 2/26/2010 9:54 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

  From: P. J. Alling

  On 2/25/2010 8:30 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

 

   I'm pretty sure they do already get to vote for President, so

  there  must be some way to count their electoral vote.

  

  For them it's a beauty contest vote.  It doesn't count they don't 
  have representation in congress so they don;t get an electoral vote.

 
  Apparently I misunderstood how it works.
 
  Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens, but residents of Puerto Rico, Guam 
  and the U.S. Virgin Islands do not vote in the national elections  
  unless
  they're registered to vote in one of the states or in DC, in  which case
  they should be able to vote an absentee ballot for the  district in 
  which
  they're registered if they happen to be back in  Puerto Rico.
 
  Persons born in Puerto Rico, Guam and the U.S. Virgin Islands are U.S.
   Citizens.
 
  Persons born in the Northern Mariana Islands and American Samoa are 
  U.S. Nationals, but are not U.S. Citizens. U.S. Nationals may reside  
  and
  work in the United States. They don't have to have a green card or  work
  permit. They are not prohibited by federal law from voting in  national
  elections, but no state permits them to do so.
 
  U.S. Nationals may apply for citizenship under the same rules as 
  resident aliens.
 
  DC doesn't get representation in Congress, but they do have 3 
  electors; the number they would be entitled to IF DC was a state.
 

 I don't know where you got that last one from but I believe it's
 incorrect.  DC has no electors, and cannot, the number of electors is
 defined in the constitution as the number of senators plus the number of
 congressmen, since DC has neither then DC has no electors.  For DC to be
 granted electors without representation in Congress would require a
 constitutional amendment, which is not likely to happen.

 Amendment 23 - Presidential Vote for District of Columbia

 1. The District constituting the seat of Government of the United States
 shall appoint in such manner as the Congress may direct: A number of
 electors of President and Vice President equal to the whole number of
 Senators and Representatives in Congress to which the District would be
 entitled if it were a State, but in no event more than the least populous
 State; they shall be in addition to those appointed by the States, but they
 shall be considered, for the purposes of the election of President and Vice
 President, to be electors appointed by a State; and they shall meet in the
 District and perform such duties as provided by the twelfth article of
 amendment.

 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate
 legislation.

 Ratified 29 Mar 1961

 Aparently I was wrong, however I happen to think this amendment is also
 wrong, it violates one of the rationals for having a federal district.
  Perhaps that's why I'd prefer to forget it.  Too bad amendments to the
 constitution can't be declared unconstitutional.

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Re: Congratulations!

2010-03-01 Thread Steven Desjardins
I wonder when this will appear on Speed.  I'm not a big fan of
motocross and that's all we have now.


On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 6:37 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Brian Walters wrote:

On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:14 -0800, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
wrote:
 Congratulations Canada on your hockey gold medal!

Congratulations New Zealand on winning the 20-20 cricket match against
Aus yesterday.

 And congratulations to Leon Haslam on winning his first World
 Superbike Championship race yesterday in Australia!


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Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame

2010-03-01 Thread Steven Desjardins
If that's true then Cotty's hat is safe.

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 8:02 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:
 It looks like it'll take an act of congress to get one.

 On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 I hadn't looked at this thread in a while.  Clearly the Pentax FF
 issue is far more complicated than I realized.

 On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 12:11 AM, P. J. Alling
 webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 2/27/2010 12:50 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

 From: P. J. Alling

 On 2/26/2010 9:54 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

  From: P. J. Alling

  On 2/25/2010 8:30 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

 

   I'm pretty sure they do already get to vote for President, so

  there  must be some way to count their electoral vote.

  

  For them it's a beauty contest vote.  It doesn't count they don't 
  have representation in congress so they don;t get an electoral vote.

 
  Apparently I misunderstood how it works.
 
  Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens, but residents of Puerto Rico, Guam 
  and the U.S. Virgin Islands do not vote in the national elections  
  unless
  they're registered to vote in one of the states or in DC, in  which 
  case
  they should be able to vote an absentee ballot for the  district in 
  which
  they're registered if they happen to be back in  Puerto Rico.
 
  Persons born in Puerto Rico, Guam and the U.S. Virgin Islands are U.S.
   Citizens.
 
  Persons born in the Northern Mariana Islands and American Samoa are 
  U.S. Nationals, but are not U.S. Citizens. U.S. Nationals may reside  
  and
  work in the United States. They don't have to have a green card or  
  work
  permit. They are not prohibited by federal law from voting in  
  national
  elections, but no state permits them to do so.
 
  U.S. Nationals may apply for citizenship under the same rules as 
  resident aliens.
 
  DC doesn't get representation in Congress, but they do have 3 
  electors; the number they would be entitled to IF DC was a state.
 

 I don't know where you got that last one from but I believe it's
 incorrect.  DC has no electors, and cannot, the number of electors is
 defined in the constitution as the number of senators plus the number of
 congressmen, since DC has neither then DC has no electors.  For DC to be
 granted electors without representation in Congress would require a
 constitutional amendment, which is not likely to happen.

 Amendment 23 - Presidential Vote for District of Columbia

 1. The District constituting the seat of Government of the United States
 shall appoint in such manner as the Congress may direct: A number of
 electors of President and Vice President equal to the whole number of
 Senators and Representatives in Congress to which the District would be
 entitled if it were a State, but in no event more than the least populous
 State; they shall be in addition to those appointed by the States, but they
 shall be considered, for the purposes of the election of President and Vice
 President, to be electors appointed by a State; and they shall meet in the
 District and perform such duties as provided by the twelfth article of
 amendment.

 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate
 legislation.

 Ratified 29 Mar 1961

 Aparently I was wrong, however I happen to think this amendment is also
 wrong, it violates one of the rationals for having a federal district.
  Perhaps that's why I'd prefer to forget it.  Too bad amendments to the
 constitution can't be declared unconstitutional.

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Re: Metering - K7

2010-03-01 Thread Steven Desjardins
I wondered about this too.  A good sensor can compensate for metering
errors, at least in principle.

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:
 Your input is much appreciated.  I am somewhat surprised that you are
 seeing such a difference with center weighted metering.  It would
 seem like that is something Pentax would be able to do reasonably well
 whether it was digital or film.  I wonder if perhaps there is
 something more to do with dynamic range of the sensor on the K7.
 Earlier digital models may have had narrower range than the current
 K7 which would show up as metering inconsistencies.

 Any other experiences would be appreciated as well.


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 Bruce


 Monday, March 1, 2010, 3:15:27 PM, you wrote:


 WR - Original Message -
 WR From: Bruce Dayton
 WR Subject: Metering - K7


 WR I was never able to use matrix metering with my K10/K20, it was that bad.
 WR Center weighted was better, but by saying this, keep in mind we are 
 deciding
 WR which dog has nicer breath.
 WR I haven't used matrix on my K7, the last two cameras left too dirty a 
 taste
 WR in my mouth to even try, but the center weighted does seem very accurate,
 WR much more like what I was used to with my Nikon F2s and F3.

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Re: Congratulations!

2010-03-01 Thread Steven Desjardins
Hmmm.  I'm surprised I missed that.

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Mat Maessen tomatoe...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 I wonder when this will appear on Speed.  I'm not a big fan of
 motocross and that's all we have now.

 It was on Speed last night. My Tivo recorded both races.

 I'm sure they'll be rebroadcast later in the week.

 -Mat

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Re: GESO My little stormtrooper

2010-03-04 Thread Steven Desjardins
 All of Frank's subjects would see him coming from a mile away and hide were 
 he to carry a white camera:-)
 Paul
 Not during the winter.

It's a nice little camera.  Must resist . . .

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Re: OT: The ultimate photographic accessory

2010-03-04 Thread Steven Desjardins
It even matches the Stormtrooper Kx

On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 2:19 AM, Malcolm Smith
malcolmsmi...@btinternet.com wrote:
 Beats a tripod and a long lens to get close to your subject!


 http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Boats-marine/Motorboats/auction-274
 622678.htm

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Re: Kx buffer size- nevermind

2010-03-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
That's OK.  It's not a real Pentax until someone complains . . . ;-)

On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 1:46 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 I hate it when I shoot of my mouth (or fingers in this case) without double
 checking.

 I'm not sure why I was having troubles earlier, but they aren't happening
 now.

 On Mar 4, 2010, at 10:35 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

 I was testing out the little stormtrooper this evening, and when I was
 bracketing shots, it was really weird, it would take two of the three, then
 stall.  Later when I was testing it out at the dojo, it seemed that I could
 only take two shots.

 How big is the buffer on the Kx.  Please tell me that the Pentax engineers
 were not so braindead that they put the same size buffer as the K100 in it,
 so that it'll only hold two shots with the bigger sensor, which means you
 can't even do a three shot bracketing with it. With memory less than half
 the price of what it was when the K100 came out, nobody could be so stupid
 as to design that fatal flaw into a camera.  Could they?

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Re: GESO: Critter

2010-05-09 Thread Steven Desjardins
So you spend your weekend playing opossum?

It was good to let it go.  They are fairly harmless.  They do make a
nice stew, however, . . .

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 7:00 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 I'm making some home repairs. Squirrels have got into the attic again  I'm
 having to repair the hole they made in the fascia. Several days ago, I had
 the basement door open in the back to run extension cords outside for my
 tools.

 I saw this little guy scurry under a bush outside the basement door, but
 didn't think any more about it. I was working around the corner of the house
 where I couldn't keep an eye on the basement door.

 Today I heard a crash from the kitchen - caused by the dish soap getting
 knocked off the window ledge and onto the coffee cup I left in the sink this
 morning.

 Caught this little guy trying to hide behind the dish drainer. He must have
 come upstairs looking for a way out while I was in another room.  I guess
 he's been somewhere in the house ever since I was working outside.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/4593562848/sizes/m/

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/4592944241/sizes/m

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/4592944043/sizes/m/

 He's gone now. Animal control says Opossums don't carry rabies, so I had no
 qualms about letting him go.

 Didn't make any contact with my bare hands in any case, and don't think I
 even got saliva on my glove.

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Re: Peso April showers bring.........

2010-05-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
Nice shot.  You definitely need a K7 ;-)

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 6:28 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 ..May snow.

 Had a tiny bit of snow last night, not a whole lot, but enough to rest
 on the grass.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10994455

 Had to crop this as i could get the centre of the photo to not blow
 out, but the snow inside several other tulips were totally blown out.

 I think i need a K-7.:-)

 K10D D AF 50 f2.8

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Re: Please Ignore this Pedantic Test

2010-05-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
I think Cotty was the spurious character.

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:
 Nothing I originated last night made it to the list or achives.
 Reply-to's got through but not e-mails I composed from scratch.  Maybe
 the file had a spurious character in it somewhere.  Today my e-mail
 shows up in the archive, but Haven't seen it come back at me through
 regular mail yet.

 Tom C.

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Re: OT - They're Calling For Snow Tonight

2010-05-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
You mean it stops snowing in Canada at some point?

On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 7:53 AM, frank theriault
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 It's May!

 AAGGG!!

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Re: Please Ignore this Pedantic Test

2010-05-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
You did pretty well only getting five (well, six) responses to your
please ignore this post post.

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  Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 I tried to.

 I tried to, too.

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Re: Please Ignore this Pedantic Test

2010-05-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
Oops.  Six.

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 You did pretty well only getting five (well, six) responses to your
 please ignore this post post.

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Re: PESO - Life Stages

2010-05-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
Yeah.  Nice shot, and the background really frames it.

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 Love it.

 The background makes a nice break for the shot.

 Now as Paul says, kill it.

 Dave

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 Pentax K20D, DA* 50-135 @ 135mm
 ISO 200, 1/500 sec @ f/8, Handheld

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkdphoto_00339-1.htm

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Re: PESO: Blurry or Clear?

2010-05-11 Thread Steven Desjardins
Second.  I also agree with Igor's crop suggestion.  The first one doe
shave it's charms but the second is just a stronger image.

A K10D?  How quaint.

- a fellow tenner

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:

 Right this second, I second that second.
 :-)

 For a stronger impression, I would consider cropping it to a square -
 left of his shoulder and right of the end of the guitar neck, -
 in the area of the turning keys.

 Igor


 Tue May 11 10:25:19 CDT 2010
 Jack Davis wrote:

 Second.

 Jack

 --- On Tue, 5/11/10, Charles Robinson charlesr at visi.com wrote:

 From: Charles Robinson charlesr at visi.com
 Subject: PESO: Blurry or Clear?
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml at pdml.net
 Date: Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 7:34 AM
 I was at a concert this weekend, and
 came up with (among other things) a pair of photos I
 couldn't decide between, so I included them both in the
 gallery.

 I usually only like photos which I can describe as being
 reasonably sharp.  Now, when shooting low-light
 high-movement subjects such as a rock concert, that's
 sometimes an unachievable goal.  Nonetheless, this is
 the first blurry shot I've taken which I actually like.

 So, I'm sorta curious: which do you prefer?  The first
 blurry shot, or the moderately-clear shot taken 5 seconds
 later?

 Blurry (1/15 sec):
 http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/honeydogs_firstave/content/IMGP1150_large.html

 Clear (1/25 sec):
 http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/honeydogs_firstave/content/IMGP1152_large.html


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Re: The evolution of a photographer

2010-05-13 Thread Steven Desjardins
I like the HDR hole.

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Re: What Makes a Good Photograph?

2010-05-13 Thread Steven Desjardins
Yeah, let's talk about what makes good pornography.  ;-)

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FS Friday

2010-05-14 Thread Steven Desjardins
Bunch of stuff:

Pentax 645 with A75 2.8   $250
Pentax *ist D with grip $250
Olympus Evolt 300 with 14-45 lens $250
Pentax k300 Lens f4  $250
K10D $300

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Re: Cleaning Sensors

2010-05-16 Thread Steven Desjardins
Lock the mirror open, lay the camera on the floor, and urinate on the
sensor. I've never heard of a single instance where this failed.
(Don't kill me Bill)


I use canned air.  It's pretty fast so unless your battery is nearly
dead you should be able to pull it off before the mirror comes back.
Obviously, don't get the tube so close to the sensor that the
cryogenic liquid actually collects on the surface of the sensor.
Also, if something were to get in there larger than dust you could
blow it around hard enough to nick the sensor.  Also be sure you don't
accidently grab the WD-40.

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 On May 16, 2010, at 4:49 PM, William Robb wrote:


 This make people cringe, but I lock the mirror up and shoot the sensor
 with canned gas.
 It seems to work, and I haven't hurt anything yet.
 I mentioned this on ForumsNeurotica and got soundly thrashed for
 recommending a cleaning method that would surely wreck the camera, so I
 challenged the good people there to come up with one single instance where
 they could verify canned gas wrecking a camera.
 The closest I got was a guy who met a guy coming out of a camera store who
 had apparently done some damage to his camera while cleaning it, but it
 wasn't really verifiable that the canned gas was the culprit...

 I didn't wreck a camera with canned air, but I did damage the mirror in my
 K100 by cleaning it with canned air.


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Re: Leica M9

2010-05-17 Thread Steven Desjardins
I assume that you do have sufficient liquid assets to take care of the
inevitable result?

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 I had the opportunity to play with one this morning.
 It and a little 35mm lens that reminded me somewhat of a Pentax Limited
 lens, except a lot nicer.
 My pusher, bless his heart, is going to try to get the company demo model
 for me so that I can have it to play with for a few days.
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Re: Leica M9

2010-05-18 Thread Steven Desjardins
This would have been my only option anyway.  ;-)

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 Jeffery,
 Well thats a word or two to the wise...
 Saves me a lot of money.
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote:
 I got flamed on the Leica Users Group forum for mentioning this, but my M8's 
 were anything but reliable. My first one died after about a week, and Leica 
 ignored all of my phone calls and emails until I finally contacted the 
 president of the company personally. If you aren't a professional 
 photographer, you can forget about customer service from Leica. You don't 
 exist. The second M8 body would not recognize any of the memory cards I 
 used. Leica blamed the memory cards and refused to repair or replace the 
 camera. I bought every different brand of memory card listed as compatible 
 on Leica's site, and all gave me a no memory card error until I removed 
 the battery, waited a few minutes, and then reinserted the battery (which 
 apparently rebooted the camera). I had to repeat this every time I wanted to 
 shoot a frame. Once the camera was turned off or turned itself off, the no 
 memory card error reappeared.  Until a new firmware upgrade appeared last 
 year, the M8 just sat in a drawer. The firmware upgrade seems to have fixed 
 the memory card problem.

 Pro photographers and photographers wealthy enough to afford an attorney get 
 good service from Leica USA. Grunts like myself (a teacher) aren't given the 
 time of day. I have refrained from mentioning my problems on the LUG except 
 when a pro photographer posts a message saying that Leica customer service 
 is absolutely the best. I then mention the problems I had and get my ass 
 flamed as a heretic. I finally unsubscribed from the LUG as it became less 
 and less a forum about photography. The die hard photojournalist types on 
 the LUG now post incessant photos of their dog, their flowers, or buildings.

 Leica film rangefinders are great, and reliable. Leica doesn't seem to know 
 anything whatsoever about digital cameras. If you want a digital camera with 
 a Leica lens, buy a Panasonic! They are great! If you can live with only 
 wide angle to normal lenses, the GF1 is a wonderful little camera.

 Jeffery



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 I worked with Leica RF cameras on and off from 1969 to 2002. I'd enjoy
 an M4-P again, but I  know I'd never work with film enough again to
 warrant the expense. I'd enjoy an M8 or M9 now.

 Have fun with it. Although it's expensive, it's just a camera ... a
 darn good one with a great lens.

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Re: Leica M9

2010-05-19 Thread Steven Desjardins
It should still bother him.  A Leica should be a dream purchase.
They charge top dollar and they are competing with some of the best
pro cameras.  The very idea that it just wouldn't work right is
almost inconceivable.  Maybe I'm just being naive here but why else
would anyone buy a Leica if not for superb if maybe eclectic
performance?  In terms of actual usage I'll bet that the Canon and
Nikon offerings in that range are better all around workhorse cameras.

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 5/18/2010 8:20 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 It's always sad to hear reports of such a mess, but I hear them about
 every manufacturer from time to time. Nikon, Canon, Panasonic, Sony,
 Pentax ... all of them. I'm just glad I've only rarely needed service.
 ;-)

 Godfrey, there seems to be a minor difference in Jeffery's case.  ...

 Just a matter of degree. I expect better service when I pay premium
 prices for things like a Leica, and to get poor service from them is
 more notable than from high volume outfits like Nikon/Canon or even
 Pentax by comparison.

 It obviously still burns for Jeffery, and his attitude seems like mine
 with regard to Sigma equipment. Only difference is that I never spent
 much money on Sigma stuff ... I never got any that was satisfactory in
 the first place.
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Re: Leica M9

2010-05-19 Thread Steven Desjardins
All that glass is pretty much worthless if the body doesn't work.

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 5/19/2010 2:33 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

 It should still bother him.  A Leica should be a dream purchase.
 They charge top dollar and they are competing with some of the best
 pro cameras.  The very idea that it just wouldn't work right is
 almost inconceivable.  Maybe I'm just being naive here but why else
 would anyone buy a Leica if not for superb if maybe eclectic
 performance?  In terms of actual usage I'll bet that the Canon and
 Nikon offerings in that range are better all around workhorse cameras.

 Steve, I am thinking that the Leica camera as a single item, say M8, is not
 a dream purchase. It is rather a key to big Pandora box of the glass that
 one will have to mount on their dream purchase. It is to say that as a
 system, Leica is mighty expensive and it is unlikely that someone would
 impulse buy their dream camera just because. Although entirely possible.

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Re: Leica M9

2010-05-20 Thread Steven Desjardins
I can get a Ducati under $10K  ;-)   It will be interesting to see how
well Pentax does with their new dream camera, the 645D.

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 5:33 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 On 19 May 2010 15:41, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 From: Steven Desjardins

 It should still bother him.  A Leica should be a dream purchase.
 They charge top dollar and they are competing with some of the best
 pro cameras.  The very idea that it just wouldn't work right is
 almost inconceivable.  Maybe I'm just being naive here but why else
 would anyone buy a Leica if not for superb if maybe eclectic
 performance?

 I think there's something in the contract you sign when you get accepted
 into Dental School.

 You are thinking of Ducati.  Or maybe Lamborghini.

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Re: Returning defective goods : was RE: Leica M9

2010-05-21 Thread Steven Desjardins
I can't help but notice that this thread about customer dishonesty
began as a thread about Leica foisting an imperfect product on
someone.  It doesn't surprise me that we have drifted into whatever
you can get away with since that attitude in part of as many
transactions between consumers and corporations.

On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 1:41 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:

 - Original Message - From: John Sessoms
 Subject: Re: Returning defective goods : was RE: Leica M9



 I understand what the single gang boxes are and about doubling to make a
 two gang box (although why not just buy a two gang box?), but I don't
 understand how you get a refund - or could expect one - from returning just
 the side plates?

 1) Be dishonest.
 2) Find a store that has trained it's people to take refunds without
 question on the theory that the bad refunds are a very small % of the total.

 Of course this leads to
 3) watch your bad refund % grow as word gets around that it is possible to
 get away with this.

 True stories:

 I was putting a cart of returned 16' deck boards back on the rack.
 There were a lot of them, probably close to 60.
 Below the second layer of new boards, the rest were used boards, complete
 with years of weathering and two screw holes every 16 inches.

 I had a 12' 2x4 come back on a cart. Except it was no longer 12', it was
 closer to 11'.
 And it had a screw sticking out of it.
 The only justice in this one was that it was an ACQ treated board, and the
 screw was on coated for ACQ, so probably by now their deck has fallen apart.

 Yesterday, a return cart of teleposts. No boxes, missing support plates and
 scew jacks.
 This one will be another write off of several hundred dollars when I get to
 it.

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Re: Returning defective goods : was RE: Leica M9

2010-05-21 Thread Steven Desjardins
The way people do business reflects their own perception of the way
they are treated. If you think that companies will do anything they
can to cheat you, they you will reply in kind.  This is especially
true if they believe that big companies are in some fundamental way
not a person and do not merit  ethical treatment.   You can't cheat
an inanimate object.

I have no love for corporations but if you allow yourself to slip into
this way of thinking then you only degrade your own sense of morality.
 You can begin to treat other individuals in this impersonal way of
doing business.  My position is that you do yourself more harm
psychologically/spiritually than you gain in the material transaction.

On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Keith Whaley keit...@dslextreme.com wrote:
 Steven Desjardins wrote:

 I can't help but notice that this thread about customer dishonesty
 began as a thread about Leica foisting an imperfect product on
 someone.  It doesn't surprise me that we have drifted into whatever
 you can get away with since that attitude in part of as many
 transactions between consumers and corporations.

 Okay.

 What’s your point?

 What do you agree with or what do you take issue with?

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Re: Didja miss me?

2010-05-22 Thread Steven Desjardins
We also all agreed to do a group buy of the 645D in hopes of getting a
volume price of $9500.

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Re: Returning defective goods : was RE: Leica M9

2010-05-22 Thread Steven Desjardins
Besides, I'm surprised cameras don't have that little dot that turns
red when it gets wet.  Cells phones all have them. I've immersed two.
Oddly, the one I quickly recovered died whereas the one I actually put
through a cycle of the washing machine dried out just fine.  I've had
lots of experience with breaking technology.

On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 4:03 AM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:
 2010/5/22 Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com:
 The way people do business reflects their own perception of the way
 they are treated. If you think that companies will do anything they
 can to cheat you, they you will reply in kind.  This is especially
 true if they believe that big companies are in some fundamental way
 not a person and do not merit  ethical treatment.   You can't cheat
 an inanimate object.

 I have no love for corporations but if you allow yourself to slip into
 this way of thinking then you only degrade your own sense of morality.
  You can begin to treat other individuals in this impersonal way of
 doing business.  My position is that you do yourself more harm
 psychologically/spiritually than you gain in the material transaction.


 Amen to that!

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Re: Returning defective goods : was RE: Leica M9

2010-05-22 Thread Steven Desjardins
Stealing from big companies doesn't  count either:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qEG9EnHnw0

;-)

On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 8:03 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Besides, I'm surprised cameras don't have that little dot that turns
 red when it gets wet.  Cells phones all have them. I've immersed two.
 Oddly, the one I quickly recovered died whereas the one I actually put
 through a cycle of the washing machine dried out just fine.  I've had
 lots of experience with breaking technology.

 On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 4:03 AM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:
 2010/5/22 Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com:
 The way people do business reflects their own perception of the way
 they are treated. If you think that companies will do anything they
 can to cheat you, they you will reply in kind.  This is especially
 true if they believe that big companies are in some fundamental way
 not a person and do not merit  ethical treatment.   You can't cheat
 an inanimate object.

 I have no love for corporations but if you allow yourself to slip into
 this way of thinking then you only degrade your own sense of morality.
  You can begin to treat other individuals in this impersonal way of
 doing business.  My position is that you do yourself more harm
 psychologically/spiritually than you gain in the material transaction.


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Re: Pentax 110 SLR

2010-05-24 Thread Steven Desjardins
lots of problems here according to the local pundits.  An EVIL DX
camera might be easier,. especially if it could accept the D lenses.

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 http://www.cameraquest.com/pentx110.htm


 As an alternative to FT and Olympus Pen, Pentax can refurbish their 110
 SLR system. Just my 2¢...



 

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Re: GESO - Quality Human Hair

2010-05-25 Thread Steven Desjardins
I really like the Leaner, the dead umbrella, and the circular widow
street scene.

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote:
 Most of these will not survive a more serious cull, but right now they don't
 make me spew.

 All taken over the too little time I had for shooting in Chicago, just a
 random collection with no thought to flow or chronological order. Friday
 night is missing until I move them from the laptop to my working computer.

 Anyway:

 http://www.alphoto.com/images/chicago2010/

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Re: OT: Eyeballing Fad

2010-05-28 Thread Steven Desjardins
Wow.  I have no idea what went wrong.  I mean, if it was deliberate I
would have used a better line.

On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 On May 27, 2010, at 21:34, Joseph McAllister wrote:

 I received three, Ken stepped in and smacked someone around, then I received 
 5 more - none since 16:21 PDT.

 Unless I erased a bunch the first time through this thread.


 I got about 30-40 of 'em.

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Re: OT: Eyeballing Fad

2010-05-28 Thread Steven Desjardins
I checked around a bit.  No sign of Gatling-Email on my end.  I sent
this from the BlackBerry and that's been fine before.  It must be
Obama's fault.

On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Wow.  I have no idea what went wrong.  I mean, if it was deliberate I
 would have used a better line.

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 On May 27, 2010, at 21:34, Joseph McAllister wrote:

 I received three, Ken stepped in and smacked someone around, then I 
 received 5 more - none since 16:21 PDT.

 Unless I erased a bunch the first time through this thread.


 I got about 30-40 of 'em.

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Re: OT: Eyeballing Fad

2010-05-28 Thread Steven Desjardins
Damn Brits.  Probably sitting around pouring Vodka into their eyeballs.

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 I checked around a bit.  No sign of Gatling-Email on my end.  I sent
 this from the BlackBerry and that's been fine before.  It must be
 Obama's fault.

 he's blaming BP

 Slick move.

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Re: Attention Doug was Re: OT: Eyeballing Fad

2010-05-28 Thread Steven Desjardins
My Butt uses a Nikon and subscribes to a different forum.


On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote:
 Ken Waller wrote:

 Doug, there appears to be a problem here.

 At least 28 separate, identical emails, one every few minutes since about
 3:31 PM today.

 looks like Steve sat on his phone.

 we've been butt-mailed.

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Re: Attention Doug was Re: OT: Eyeballing Fad

2010-05-28 Thread Steven Desjardins
Damn Canadian phone built in Hungary.

This message sent from the computer in my office.

On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 5:12 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 maybe gmail suppresses messages with identical content; they
 aren't literally identical, though, each has a unique message
 id and some are reaching me through different paths


 The strain must have finally got to him. All of you with guns, hunt him down
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Re: OT: Conceptualising the bike as an object of human desire

2010-05-28 Thread Steven Desjardins
Do any of you wonder why I skip faculty meetings?

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OT: Sorry

2010-05-29 Thread Steven Desjardins
I found the smoking gun of my email barrage.  A whole set of PDML
bounces and a an email that said the equivalent of I can't get
through so I'll keep sending it.  While I normally admire
persistence, I'll try to avoid this in the future.

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Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-01 Thread Steven Desjardins
I'll speak tio what I know, i.e., my personal preferences.  I have a
MacBook and a Dell laptop.  The Mac is a nice computer but I'm not
particularly attached to it.  I also use my Blackberry/iPod Touch to
access the Internet for email, weather, etc. since they are faster
than the computer unless I leave the computer on all the time.  I can
easily see me getting a Windows based desktop system because they are
nice to work on for photos, documents, etc. and cheaper than macs.  I
would also get an iPad or similar device for Internet access because I
can sit on the couch and browse with more ease and comfort than a
laptop.  I would also have a smaller portable device that serves as a
phone and fits in my pocket.

Now the opinion:  This is what most people actually want.  The new
addition is the iPad, because many people spend a lot of time browsing
the net, going to forums, email, etc and an iPad on the couch is a
tempting arrangement.  I'm not saying Apple wins, and I'm certainly
not an Apple fanboy, but as long as everything works pretty easily the
great majority of consumers will show no loyalty whatsoever as long as
capabilities are provided.

.
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 2:21 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 6/1/2010 1:49 PM, William Robb wrote:

 On 01/06/2010 11:24 AM, steve harley wrote:

 On 2010-06-01 08:46 , P. J. Alling wrote:

 Google is a competitor with Microsoft, they both want the same thing,
 TWD, total world domination, Now Linux and Apple may want the same thing
 but for a number of reasons that's unlikely with either. Why give
 sustenance to your enemy?

 uh, Google and Apple are the more obvious sparring partners at this point


 It is possible to have more than one competitor at a time.

 My issue with Apple is simple, to a non iProduct user all the iProducts
 except the Mac look like varioations on the same thing.

 iPod, tune player that has enough software to work as a game player and PDA

 iPhone iPod with Phone capability.

 iPad Overgrown iPod with possible phone capability in the future.

 Mac, good reliable yet overpriced computer using an OS substantially
 incompatible with the OS on 80-90% of the rest of the personal computers in
 the world.

 My issue with Linux, is it's a loose consortium of Geeks both profit and
 decidedly non profit, who have two things in common, a general disdain, for
 Microsoft and all it's works, and an inveterate urge to tinker, it's product
 may be reliable, but it will also tend to be geeks have blind spots, (I know
 I do), usually leading to problems along the line of, what do you mean it's
 hard to do that, it's easy, just follow these simple steps and then...

 Much as I'd like to see Linux take off, it doesn't give me confidence, and
 Apple has been playing on MS's turf all along without making major inroads
 into their core business.

 If Microsoft gets it's act back together, easier said than done, it may make
 Google more than a bit uncomfortable.  In the past MS hasn't been above
 dirty tricks to maintain it's market share and probably wouldn't be above
 such activities in gaining market share either.  But MS has the power of
 inertia behind it.  Apple doesn't.

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Re: OT: A follow-up to the hyperthermia article

2010-06-02 Thread Steven Desjardins
I've followed most of this thread but I could have missed a few given
its length.  It strikes me that much of this could be dealt with
through education.  Most new parents have some
doctor/hospital/birthing classes contact these days.  Making people
aware that this is a real problem would help.

BTW, I mistyped birthing so badly that Gmail replaced it with
bullfighting.  Not related but it made my day.

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 On 6/1/2010 4:16 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

 Paul:

 There may be disagreement on what the appropriate remedy should be,
 but your fine articles perform a great public service by bringing
 public attention to this unfortunate problem.

 I for one am extremely proud of you.

 Dan

 What Dan said!

 Boris

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Re: 645D users moniker?

2010-06-03 Thread Steven Desjardins
Maybe The Divorced, given the price?

On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Brendan MacRae
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 The Brotherhood was taken by the 67.

 So, what will it be called?

 Because of my jealousy with those who will posses one I propose The Coven.

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Re: Mini GESO - If it has a ringtone it isnt a camera, right?

2010-06-04 Thread Steven Desjardins
This thread makes a nice counterpoint to the are cameras the new
guns thread.  What can you really do when everyone has a phone that
has a camera?  You are no longer picking on a minority.

On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 1:57 AM, Christine  Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
 I love Dumpster Diva, Ann, and nice job with the cell phone.  Your mini geso
 was fun!  cheers, Christine


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 Took these street shots with my cell phone  -- (samsung t639)    warning -
 one of them has a cat in it :-)


 http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/cell-phone-snaps/12420035_MC2ch#16764_bb8qg


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Re: equipment issues this week

2010-06-04 Thread Steven Desjardins
I did observe long ago however that I met a lot more cute women
dancing than I did either at the race track or at Linux User's Group
meetings.

C'Mon, this has to be a Mark!

On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 I did observe long ago however that I met a lot more cute women dancing
 than I did either at the race track or at Linux User's Group meetings.

 and they say girls just wanna have fun.

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Re: First the 645D now this

2010-06-07 Thread Steven Desjardins
It does makes the 645D look good at under $10K.  (Although I do
question the use of the wordsteal for any of these cameras.)

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Keith Whaley keit...@dslextreme.com wrote:
 David J Brooks wrote:


 http://reviews.photographyreview.com/blog/mamiya-rz33-medium-format-digital-camera-classic/

 A steal at $17999

 Dave


 NOTHING is a steal aat $17,999.

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White Balance Lens Cap

2010-06-08 Thread Steven Desjardins
I hadn't heard of these.  Has anyone tried them and, if so, do they work?

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Re: PESO - Eilert Mehl in deep shit

2010-06-09 Thread Steven Desjardins
Funny shot  and, uh, well done, especially given the subject.  The
FA20-35 is still one of my favorite lenses.  Light and sharp and just
makes nice pictures.

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 http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2010/06/eilert-mehl-in-deep-shit.html

 I've just enabled myself with a brand new FA 20-35/4 The intention is
 to use it as a light walk about.
 The other intention is to force myself to go closer. I definately
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Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread Steven Desjardins
Another forum I belong to (not photography ;-) has a voluntary
subscription rate of $30 per year through PayPal.  It automatically
charges me every May unless I stop it.  This takes  care of memory
issues.  Some (and I emphasize some) might be willing to so something
similar for the PDML.

2010/6/14 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de:
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 Euro!

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Re: PESO: Hunkerd Hummer

2010-06-14 Thread Steven Desjardins
Great shot.  You must have used a very high shutter speed to freeze
the wings that well.

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 I was, again, enjoying the patio chaise when the nearby garden was visited by 
 a Humming Bird. In this case, a Stellula calliope.
 She (according to my field guide?) checked out a blossom or two before 
 settling on a twig as shown.
 Am currently using a version of this image as my wallpaper and as I just now 
 brought up PDML mail was moved to share it.
 They are much easier to photograph when resting, even for however a momentary 
 time.
 Haven't been shooting much lately. Had house guests for a few days and we're 
 now experiencing 'prox 100F weather. Air conditioner is difficult to leave.

 Just for fun..of course.

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K7 at BH

2010-06-14 Thread Steven Desjardins
The K7 body is down to $764  at BH.  The Kx is $518 with the kit
lens.  This could be a tough decision.  As tempting as I find the high
iso goodness of Kx , the good metering/exposure of the K7 mihgt prove
more useful in the end.  Just venting to the only group of people who
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Re: K7 at BH

2010-06-14 Thread Steven Desjardins
From Pentax no less.  What is the world coming to?

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 SD lens.  This could be a tough decision.  As tempting as I find the high
 SD iso goodness of Kx , the good metering/exposure of the K7 mihgt prove
 SD more useful in the end.  Just venting to the only group of people who
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Re: The State of The List

2010-06-16 Thread Steven Desjardins
Remember that however pleasant it is now, for much of modern human existence
Europe was a remote and impossible place for us to get to and to live in.

That's how Americans view it now.

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 5:05 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 2010/6/16 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net:
  But it's politically correct to assume that the nasty and violent
 humans
  caused the demise of the gentle and peace-loving Neanderthals.


 I don't think it's a matter of political correctness, but of people
 retaining a belief that was current in the scientific community for a long
 time (Man the Hunter) and was used to explain this. The imagery was so
 powerful (see 2001 A Space Odyssey, for example) that the last 40-50 years
 of research has not entirely removed it from the popular imagination.

 [...]

 As BobW pointed to, combat is not the only way. Competitive exclusion
 and parasite/disease resistance would do nicely too. For all we know
 the neanderthals could have been particularly susceptible to a disease
 transferred by, as you say, procreative mingling.

 it's also entirely possible that modern people had nothing at all to do with
 the extinction of the Neandertals. They may have been on their way out
 anyway, as a result of changes to the environment to which they could not
 adapt. At the same time, modern humans were able to exploit the changing
 environment, which is why we entered Europe at the same time as the
 Neandertals were expiring. One event did not necessarily cause the other -
 they may have had the same cause.

 Remember that however pleasant it is now, for much of modern human existence
 Europe was a remote and impossible place for us to get to and to live in.
 Depending on how the evidence is interpreted, we may have got to Australia
 as much 30,000 years before we got to Europe! Yet the Neandertals thrived in
 those conditions. It should not be much of a surprise to find that when
 conditions had softened enough for us, the Neandertals came under
 environmental stress.

 I am on holiday in the Cevennes next week and the week following - I hope to
 be able to visit some sites where Cro-Magnon finds were made in the 19th C,
 including la caverne de l'homme mort, where some 50 individuals were found,
 most of whom had been trepanned. They were probably early Pentax shooters.

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Re: 645D on now on ebay fromJapan

2010-06-17 Thread Steven Desjardins
It started so well, and now it's a clash of the titems.

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 On 6/17/2010 1:33 AM, Peter Loveday wrote:

 I prefer to buy my major equipmen titems from my ocla camera shop, who
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 That's how I get my titems as well

 Hmm, you have to pay for your titems?

 - Peter

 Not me, I usually rely on the free samples.

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Re: PESO - cowboy

2010-06-21 Thread Steven Desjardins
Nice.  Visually strong.

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 http://dougbrewer.posterous.com/cowboy-215

 enjoy

 I did, thanks. Great image Doug.

 So did I - nice geometry, well seen and taken at just the right time =)
 Cheers
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Re: PESO - Parking Space for Rent

2010-06-21 Thread Steven Desjardins
The secret of the universe is in there somewhere, Frank.

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 Not what I'd hoped it would be, but it turned out to be a one shot
 deal and I couldn't re-shoot in exactly the way I wanted:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/06/parking-space-for-rent.html

 Still, I'm not unhappy with it.  Hope you enjoy.

 Comments welcome.

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Re: peso - bathing

2010-06-22 Thread Steven Desjardins
The crispness of the bird and the drops is really good.  Or maybe I
just like crispy duck ;-)

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Re: PESO: A Road Less Traveled

2010-06-23 Thread Steven Desjardins
Great shot.  Just curious: what was the weather like after that?

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 Strong image, Darren! Very well composed.

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 To: pdml@pdml.net
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Re: PESO -- Please find her.

2010-06-23 Thread Steven Desjardins
I agree it's a good albeit sad find.  It's also a good photograph,
composition and exposure wise.

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 A mile stone of sorts, the 3000th shutter activation, well at least the
 image is _imgp3000.  Close enough for for me at this point.  I'd have posted
 this anyway.

 Small tragedies seem to hurt the worst, and childhood gives them a special
 poignancy.

 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20pleasefindher.html

 Equipment:  Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 28~200mm f3.8~5.6

 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

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Re: K20D

2010-06-25 Thread Steven Desjardins
Hey, let's not spill the beans.

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 Yeah, but Congress would still base national policy on it.

 OK let's give these figures to BP then...


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FS Friday- Lenses and bodies

2010-06-25 Thread Steven Desjardins
I haven't listed these in a while:

K10D  $300
*istD with grip $250
Olympus evolt300 wiht 14-42 lens  $250
K 300 f4  $250

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Re: peso - young Pentxian

2010-06-25 Thread Steven Desjardins
It would make a nice ad shot.

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Re: K20D

2010-06-25 Thread Steven Desjardins
That's a slick idea.

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 Let's just spread oil on troubled waters...

 On 6/25/2010 8:11 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

 Hey, let's not spill the beans.

 On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 5:06 AM, eckinatoreckina...@gmail.com  wrote:


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Re: PESO - tiny dancer's curtain call

2010-06-30 Thread Steven Desjardins
What a sweetie.  Some little boy somewhere is doomed in about 12 years.

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 Since so many of you had a look at my tiny dancer pic, I thought you might
 like to see how she posed at the conclusion of her dance. She's definitely a
 born entertainer:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11129251size=lg

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Re: Lets fan the flames of 645 lust

2010-06-30 Thread Steven Desjardins
You'd need a Kx for lowlight.  Of course, the price of a Kx could be
hidden on the 645D bill.

On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote:
 Me want one, baad!!!

 Cool blog, gonna keep my eye on that one!

 Tan. :)

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 Darn. And I was just getting ready to sell my 67 lenses. Wonder if the
 leaf-shutter 165/4 would give me high-speed synch on the 645D. I'd
 guess that the answer is yes.

 Yeah, that really sukks. Now I can see a 645D in my future.

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OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-01 Thread Steven Desjardins
to all our listers north of the (US) border.  What goes on for Canada
Day?  (aside from the beer).

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Re: PESO: Tasty

2010-07-02 Thread Steven Desjardins
Or maybe she thinks you're cute.

We get deer in the yard all the time.  I think they've figured out
that the hunters can't shoot them there.

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 A fawn licking its lips after tasting a flower on my front lawn
 yesterday evening:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11211373

 Comments, Criticisms, Suggestions and Abuse all are welcome.

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PESO: Shadow Puppets

2010-07-12 Thread Steven Desjardins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/40620...@n04/4787806690/

An odd and flawed photo, but I still thought I'd share it.

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Re: Looks like I'm joining the Brotherhood

2010-07-14 Thread Steven Desjardins
Wow, I didn't know they came in flavors.

Sounds fun.It's a camera I always wanted have.  I could get one now,
but, at least for me, that time has passed.

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 selling to go to pay for it

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Re: Hey

2009-12-21 Thread Steven Desjardins

I've actually been looking at the Lumix f 1.7 20mm . . .;-)

Steve Desjardins

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On 21/12/09, drd1...@gmail.com, discombobulated, unleashed:


I thought maybe everyone was mad that I've been using the E-P1. ..


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Re: OT - Samsung NX10

2009-12-22 Thread Steven Desjardins
I will eventually buy one of these type cameras (that cheap thing  
again) but I wouldn't risk samsung for awhile yet.


Steve Desjardins

On Dec 22, 2009, at 2:48 AM, P. J. Alling  
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:


I wish people wouldn't abbreviate the Mini 4/3 cameras m43, I keep  
thing that someone is building a Screw Mount, digital and I just  
know that JCO is likely to get over excited about that...


On 12/22/2009 2:05 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
Yes, Brian, there is a lot going on on the net regarding seemingly  
imminent and rather close announcement by Samsung.


Interestingly in the discussion you mentioned they indicate crop  
factor of 1.57 which might mean that the sensors are this camera  
and those in Pentax are ever so slightly different.


Also, m43 is somewhat more attractive at least to me due to the  
fact that (as far as I understand) Leica takes part in the design  
of some of the lenses. Who is going to make the lenses for Samsung  
is yet unknown for me.


Though, indeed, the flood gates of smaller-than-slr changeable lens  
cameras market seem to have been completely opened.


Boris


On 12/22/2009 8:39 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

Just came across this while looking for something else.

http://forums.steves-digicams.com/pentax-samsung-dslr/163567-samsung-nx10.html


Does this have basically the same sensor as the K20/K7?

Apparently it looks bigger than it really is (if the comparison  
photos

with the Panasonic GF-1 are anything to go by)


Cheers

Brian

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Re: KX Viewfinder

2010-03-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
Go Frank, Go Frank . . .

What color is the important question.  Nighttime black or snowy white?
 Or It's so cold it's turning blue.  I won't even mention that other
color.

On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 06/03/2010, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is anyone able to compare the KX viewfinder with that of the *istD?
 The *istD's bright viewfinder is actually quite important to me and if
 the KX' is dark, that would be a real sore point with me.

 Coming from the *istD you will love what it can do Frank, it's
 perfectly suited for the type of photography that you seem to enjoy
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Re: KX Viewfinder

2010-03-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
Speaking realistically, I would like to see this camera in the hands
of one of the PDML's most productive and distinctive photographers.
Or, more to the point, I want to see the pictures he would produce.  I
am seriously curious to see what Frank would do with that high iso
capability.

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 Go Frank, Go Frank . . .

 What color is the important question.  Nighttime black or snowy white?
  Or It's so cold it's turning blue.  I won't even mention that other
 color.

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 On 06/03/2010, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is anyone able to compare the KX viewfinder with that of the *istD?
 The *istD's bright viewfinder is actually quite important to me and if
 the KX' is dark, that would be a real sore point with me.

 Coming from the *istD you will love what it can do Frank, it's
 perfectly suited for the type of photography that you seem to enjoy
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Re: PESO - Underwhelming

2010-03-06 Thread Steven Desjardins
Makes me want to drive right up there with some American Waste.

Really funny.  OTOH, it catches your attention better than MegaTireMart.

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Test

2010-03-07 Thread Steven Desjardins
Is this getting through?

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Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame

2010-03-07 Thread Steven Desjardins
Mark or not, it's true.

On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:27 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:

 - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling
 Subject: Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame


 So we're on to sex now?


 As soon as Congress got mentioned, it was pretty evident that someone was
 getting screwed.


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Re: Test

2010-03-08 Thread Steven Desjardins
Damn, I was afraid of that . . .

On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 8:27 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 No.

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Re: K-x at a concert

2010-03-09 Thread Steven Desjardins
And the legend grows.  K-x sensor and K-7 metering, anyone?

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 Larry Colen wrote:

 ran across this link on flickr:

 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sandy-henson-corso/fergie-and-my-night-as-a_b_483710.html
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 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est

 That is one brave woman. New camera in the post of Friday, shootin' on Sat.
 Excellent results. But I'm sure a BEP lighting would not be stressing the
 low light powers of her stormtrooper cam

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Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)

2010-03-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
I'd take the weight if I had the money.   Studio and Nature stuff,
with a a Kx in your pocket for the occasional rock star.

On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:04 PM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:
 It'll be to big and heavy for most PDML'ers.

 On 10/03/2010, jtainter jtain...@mindspring.com wrote:
 http://www.dpreview.com/news/1003/10031002pentax645d.asp

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Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)

2010-03-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
I'll get right on it.  Would you prefer quantum mechanics or
relativity to be violated?

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 - Original Message - From: Larry Colen Subject: Re: 645D Exists
 (Or Will Soon)



 I wonder, however, what it would take for Pentax to make a mirrorless,
  short register, EVIL, version of the the 645D, that could use either K-
 mount or 645 mount lenses.


 A rewrite of the laws of physics would be a good place to start.

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Re: 655D no kidding

2010-03-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
I love this line:

...unlike similar options from Hasselblad, this one won't actually
destroy your hopes of sending four generations of offspring to
college.

On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 1:17 AM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote:
 http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/09/pentax-gets-official-with-40-megapixel-645d-medium-format-camera/

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Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)

2010-03-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
It would be funny if Pentax just hung there with the MF and DX
sensors.  Funny in the sense of PDML threads, that is.

On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 On 10/3/10, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed:

It's a 1.3x crop factor, pretty much standard for MF Digital.

 Thanks Adam.

There's only one 645 Full-frame sensor on the market, the 60MP sensor
in the PhaseOne P65+ back and the last I'd heard that was a custom job
for PhaseOne and not available to other vendors, even if it was, it
would probably have doubled the cost of the 645D. Everyone else except
Leica is using either 1.3x or 1.1x crop sensors, depending on
availability and cost (every back maker switches between the two
sizes). Leica is using their own, slightly smaller 3:2 aspect format.

 1.3x is reasonable. I found using the 1.3x crop 1D mark II very
 comfortable and didn't have to sway too much with existing lenses to get
 what I wanted. The K15mm on that camera was formidable.

Given that the 645D-FA lenses remain able to cover 645, I expect
Pentax to move up to full-frame sensors when there are economic
options available.

 My hat is due to retire in 2025 so better be quick.



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Re: FS Friday - *istD plus accessories

2010-03-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
I actually have an *istD with a grip.  I also have a NiCad charger but
I never use it.  I usuaully prefered litthiums.  I can throw in a 512
Mb CF card as well, if you are interested.

On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:11 PM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'll definitely give it a good hard thought but to be honest I've
 never liked using a camera without a battery grip which was what
 attracted me to Steve's offer
 Cheers
 Ecke

 2010/3/10 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:
 I'll sell you mine, Only $200 US with everything in the original Box except
 the eye cup.  It disappeared sometime around the second month I owned it.
  I'd give you the one from the *ist-Ds but the dog chewed it up.  I'll even
 throw in two CF, (one dog chewed but it still works), cards, for 1.5 gigs of
 storage .  Now the bad part, the stop down metering only intermittently
 works, same with DOF which doesn't surprise me as they are both related.  It
 would cost more to fix than it's worth and I'm not yet brave enough to open
 her up to see if something simple is what's wrong.

 On 3/10/2010 11:33 AM, eckinator wrote:

 No biggie as long as you let me know next time you change your mind!

 2010/3/10 Steve Sharped...@eastlink.ca:


 Sorry, I've changed my mind! All this talk about IR photography has
 decided
 me to buy an infrared filter and to give it a try with the *istD.

 At 1:52 PM +0100 3/10/10, eckinator wrote:


 Well I'll need a month or two to raise the necessary funds but I may
 buy if it is still there (please don't hold it for me though, it is a
 firm MAY)
 Cheers
 Ecke

 2010/3/5 Steve Sharped...@eastlink.ca:


  I'm selling my *istD, battery grip, CF cards, NiMH batteries and
 charger.
  Beautiful condition, less than 3200 actuations.




 http://halifax.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-cameras-camcorders-Pentax-istD-DSLR-accessories-W0QQAdIdZ177848717

  Price for PDML people is $250...Canadian funds if you are in Canada,
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Re: FS Friday - *istD plus accessories

2010-03-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
And, in the dept. of damn, who knew  I found the AC adaptor I
thought might be useful long ago.  Also the original box and manual.
I really should check this drawer more often.

On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 I actually have an *istD with a grip.  I also have a NiCad charger but
 I never use it.  I usuaully prefered litthiums.  I can throw in a 512
 Mb CF card as well, if you are interested.

 On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:11 PM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'll definitely give it a good hard thought but to be honest I've
 never liked using a camera without a battery grip which was what
 attracted me to Steve's offer
 Cheers
 Ecke

 2010/3/10 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:
 I'll sell you mine, Only $200 US with everything in the original Box except
 the eye cup.  It disappeared sometime around the second month I owned it.
  I'd give you the one from the *ist-Ds but the dog chewed it up.  I'll even
 throw in two CF, (one dog chewed but it still works), cards, for 1.5 gigs of
 storage .  Now the bad part, the stop down metering only intermittently
 works, same with DOF which doesn't surprise me as they are both related.  It
 would cost more to fix than it's worth and I'm not yet brave enough to open
 her up to see if something simple is what's wrong.

 On 3/10/2010 11:33 AM, eckinator wrote:

 No biggie as long as you let me know next time you change your mind!

 2010/3/10 Steve Sharped...@eastlink.ca:


 Sorry, I've changed my mind! All this talk about IR photography has
 decided
 me to buy an infrared filter and to give it a try with the *istD.

 At 1:52 PM +0100 3/10/10, eckinator wrote:


 Well I'll need a month or two to raise the necessary funds but I may
 buy if it is still there (please don't hold it for me though, it is a
 firm MAY)
 Cheers
 Ecke

 2010/3/5 Steve Sharped...@eastlink.ca:


  I'm selling my *istD, battery grip, CF cards, NiMH batteries and
 charger.
  Beautiful condition, less than 3200 actuations.




 http://halifax.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-cameras-camcorders-Pentax-istD-DSLR-accessories-W0QQAdIdZ177848717

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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-12 Thread Steven Desjardins
Not completely true. When I stayed at the Reuben Hotel in London they
had something called American Muffins on the continental breakfast
cart.  They were the somewhat mushroom shaped baked goods that we
simply call a muffin here in the US.  I don't know how they tasted
since they also has chocolate Croissants.

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 I know that what we call cookies, you call biscuits.

 What  do you call what we call biscuits?


 What do you call biscuits?

 American biscuits?

 No. We never attach the word American to anything that's supposed to be
 food.

 Over here a biscuit is crisp and crunchy made from short pastry and
 typically quite thinnish, except for Jaffa cakes. A cookie is fatter and
 less crunchy with a soggy middle. A bit like the difference between Mark
 Roberts and Cotty, really.

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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread Steven Desjardins
Sorry, but the government should never be given this authority.  In
the US, we have social services that will take away children if there
is proof of abuse and that's as far as you can go.  If people have to
ask permission to have children, it is just way to easy to move to
eugenics.  People have to die sometimes to maintain a free society:
sometimes it's soldiers, sometimes it's highway drivers, and sometimes
it's abused children. That sounds harsh but totalitarian states
usually begin with something for our own good.

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 9:30 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:

 - Original Message - From: Tanya Love
 Subject: RE: question for the brits American to English translation


 snip

 Were too broke and uneducated to adopt them out or to seek a termination
 (which I am adamantly against, but that's a whole other soapbox),
 /snip

 Don't take this the wrong way, but you are playing both sides of the fence
 on this.

 William Robb

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Re: Waiting for UPS

2010-03-15 Thread Steven Desjardins
I have no sympathy at all and thoroughly hate you.

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 I am sitting here today waiting for UPS. Last year at Grandfather Mountain,
 several of you made fun of me because I was reluctant to fondle the K 7
 while we were looking at it. Today, I will get to fondle it all I want.
 Sometime before 7:00pm today a box will arrive contianing a K7 for me and a
 Stormtrooper KX for my wife. This is as bad as watching the water on the
 stove waiting for my coffee in the morning. How will I wait for the battery
 to charge? Oh well, just a few more hours. Going on a photo outing with the
 Photo Society Saturday, will post something this weekend.

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Re: OT - Congrats, Tim!

2010-03-16 Thread Steven Desjardins
Nice upgrade  ;-)

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 2010/3/15 ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com:

 Somehow turning into an Android doest sound like something that merits
 congratulations...

 ann ( trying to finesse the Brits on this one)

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Re: Oh mama - 645D First Impressions and a Interview

2010-03-17 Thread Steven Desjardins
It will be really interesting to see how fast this thing depreciates.
On the one hand, the technology will age quickly like all digital
products.  On the other hand, 40 MP may be on the digital plateau in
terms of quality.  Also, there will be far less of these made so the
sued ones will be rare.

And (he says bitterly), I bet it will be an awesome camera for outdoor
photography.

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 sounds sweet... i guess i will join the crowd of people waiting for it
 to show up used on ebay for a grand...

 2010/3/17 Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au:

 http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/pentax645d-1st.shtml

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Re: Oh mama - 645D First Impressions and a Interview

2010-03-18 Thread Steven Desjardins
Since those FF cameras are also out of my range, I might as well be
picky about things I can't have.

2010/3/17 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de:
 Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:

 It will be really interesting to see how fast this thing depreciates.

 We'll be all old and grey before we can afford it, even second-hand.
 Much like fast 85 mm lenses. Everybody wants them but noone buys a new
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Re: Not THAT similar

2010-03-18 Thread Steven Desjardins
It's similar enough, given that they are wildly different kinds of
cameras.  An EVIL twin would be nice.

2010/3/18 Margus Männik mar...@eol.ee:
 Hi,

 you may take a look at the photos I uploaded to different server:
 http://nagi.ee/photos/haramount/sets/256079/?picture_type=tstart=0

 Don't get me wrong - I'm not complaining and I really do like I-10. In my
 opinion, it is one of the few (if not the only) compacts that look like a
 camera, not a soapbox. Just when you take it to you hand together with Auto
 110, it feels pretty much different from Auto 110. As I said, they are
 similar, but not THAT similar :)

 BR, Margus


 John Celio wrote:

 got my white Optio I-10 today. It's the first piece of photo equipment in
 my life that I have purchased purely because of the look. I really like it.
 Many people have described it as Auto 110'ish, but when you put it
 together with Auto 110, the similarity is much less than expected.

 http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/

 The cameras can't really be that similar in size, can they?  Could you
 post a side-by-side pic without resizing?  I'd be most interested in seeing
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FS Friday- Lenses and bodies

2010-03-19 Thread Steven Desjardins
I have for sale:

*ist Ds
K10D
FA100 2.8 macro
k300 F4

Contact me with an offer.  Thanks.

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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-19 Thread Steven Desjardins
Wow, and I've been avoiding English Muffins all these years.

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote:
 On Mar 15, 2010, at 17:38 , Keith Whaley wrote:

 Bob W wrote:

 Here's a crumpet
 http://tinyurl.com/2pth3n

 THIS is crumpet

 http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/billiepiper.jpg

 Cheers,
  Cotty

 Can you get them at a chip shop?

 I know where you can get a couple of bags for sixpence.

 So do I, but... could you take them home to Mum?

 On the other hand, chances are you wouldn't GET to take Billie home...so
 there.
 And, she definitely IS a crumpet, she is.  g


 Isn't she what we Norte Americanos call a slut?

 If it doesn’t excite you,
 This thing that you see,
 Why in the world,
 Would it excite me?
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Manual Focus 28

2010-03-19 Thread Steven Desjardins
How do the M and A 28's compare?  Is there a really good one or (more
to the point) one to avoid?

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Re: Manual Focus 28

2010-03-19 Thread Steven Desjardins
That's an M, right?

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Steven Desjardins wrote:

How do the M and A 28's compare?  Is there a really good one or (more
to the point) one to avoid?

 The 28mm f/3.5 lenses are the ones to get.


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