Re: [Phono-L] Large Oak Cylinder Record Cabinet For Sale
hi jerry can you send some pictures thanks rob -Original Message- From: DeeDee Blais deedeebl...@yahoo.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:05 pm Subject: [Phono-L] Large Oak Cylinder Record Cabinet For Sale I am selling a large oak cylinder record cabinet for a friend. The cabinet holds 216 cylinders and all but seven of the numbered pegs are still in the cabinet. It is 21 wide, 20 deep, and stands 34.5 high and would look very nice with a Triumph or Opera. The tiger oak is very attractive and I'm happy to send photos. The price is $650 and I'm happy to deliver it to the CAPS sale. Please call 541-990-0781 or email jerry.bl...@yahoo.comThanks, Jerry Blais ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Victor VV-3X
hi all i do have a table model with the x after it and it is real around 1917 they did this in a model change it is in the victor data book for that but not sure on your model -Original Message- From: Jay Horenstein jay.horenst...@gmail.com To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thu, Aug 6, 2009 8:18 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor VV-3X I went to the Victor Victrola page and found no such animal. If it is indeed real, it's something special. -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of john9...@pacbell.net Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 9:23 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor VV-3X Very possible, they're turning up. --Original Message-- From: Steven Medved Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org To: Phono-l ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor VV-3X Sent: Aug 6, 2009 9:18 AM Chinese reproduction ID plate? Ok, this one has got me stumped, I have contacted a seller of a crank victor phonograph with a top lid (I do not have any pictures of it) who is insisting that it is a VV-3X according to the ID plate. Naturally I can find nothing about this in LFTD or the Victor Data book. Has anyone ever heard of this one? It is a real mystery to me. He says it looks like a typical Table model with a top lid, and has looked at the ID plate 3 times to confirm that Model number for me. What gives here? Bruce ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.45/2284 - Release Date: 08/05/09 18:23:00 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org hi ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] EDISON IDELIA D-2
I am in the process of thinning out my collection and have an edison idelia d-2 that i will be putting on ebay soon if anyone is interested please contact me off list before i put it up thank you zono ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] question for all on an auxetophone
thank you andy but cant find a phone number for him -Original Message- From: Andrew Baron a...@popyrus.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Wed, Aug 19, 2009 10:03 am Subject: Re: [Phono-L] question for all on an auxetophone Reid Welch in Miami would also know all about the details of this machine (if you can reach him).? ? Andy? ? On Aug 19, 2009, at 3:28 AM, zonophone2...@aol.com wrote:? ? ? hi? ? i am trying to help a museum restore and auxetophone here? ? does anyone have one? ? most of the parts are there except for a pump and the reproducer? ? at one time some one was making the pump? ? any help will be appreciated? ? thanks? ? zono? ___? Phono-L mailing list? http://phono-l.oldcrank.org? ? ___? Phono-L mailing list? http://phono-l.oldcrank.org? ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] question for all on an auxetophone
thank you for all your help all -Original Message- From: John Maeder appywan...@hotmail.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Wed, Aug 19, 2009 11:48 am Subject: Re: [Phono-L] question for all on an auxetophone Paul Baker was making pumps. From: jay.horenst...@gmail.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:35:58 -0700 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] question for all on an auxetophone Stan Stanford of Portland, and Jerry Blais of Albany Oregon each have beautifully restored Auxetophones. It might be worth a call to one of These gentlemen. -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Baron Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 7:04 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] question for all on an auxetophone Reid Welch in Miami would also know all about the details of this machine (if you can reach him). Andy On Aug 19, 2009, at 3:28 AM, zonophone2...@aol.com wrote: hi i am trying to help a museum restore and auxetophone here does anyone have one most of the parts are there except for a pump and the reproducer at one time some one was making the pump any help will be appreciated thanks zono ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.61/2312 - Release Date: 08/18/09 18:05:00 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ty ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] question for all on an auxetophone
thank you i will try to reach one or both of them -Original Message- From: Jay Horenstein jay.horenst...@gmail.com To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Wed, Aug 19, 2009 11:35 am Subject: Re: [Phono-L] question for all on an auxetophone Stan Stanford of Portland, and Jerry Blais of Albany Oregon each have beautifully restored Auxetophones. It might be worth a call to one of These gentlemen. -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Baron Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 7:04 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] question for all on an auxetophone Reid Welch in Miami would also know all about the details of this machine (if you can reach him). Andy On Aug 19, 2009, at 3:28 AM, zonophone2...@aol.com wrote: hi i am trying to help a museum restore and auxetophone here does anyone have one most of the parts are there except for a pump and the reproducer at one time some one was making the pump any help will be appreciated thanks zono ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.61/2312 - Release Date: 08/18/09 18:05:00 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ty ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Information Needed For 15.5 Regina Music Box Discs
check with porter music box -Original Message- From: kugl...@wmconnect.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:02 pm Subject: [Phono-L] Information Needed For 15.5 Regina Music Box Discs Howdy friends. I just purchased a coin operated Regina Music Box for the family. Does anoyone have any 15.5 discs that they would like to sell? Also, where is the best place to purchase reproduction discs? Any help much appreciated! Thanks. Brantley ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Pathe 16 Giant Records
hi i had mine shipping and he put them between two pieces of hard board or masonite and they came from france shipping was expensive but they came with no damage zono -Original Message- From: Glenn Longwell majesticrec...@snet.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Fri, Sep 25, 2009 10:56 pm Subject: [Phono-L] Pathe 16 Giant Records I've been contacted by someone who has two of these 16 Pathe records and two Music Service Co. Inc. records pressed by Pathe.? I'm thinking of making an offer on them but am concerned about having them shipped.? What are they made of?? Are they shellac and unlikely to make a journey through the post office?? I can guide them on shipping methods but people don't?always listen completely!? What do these go for?? Playing them will be a different dilemna but I'll deal with that later. Thanks, Glenn ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Courtesty
now lets talk diamond disk i am using pledge on them to clean them up in edisons book on disk it said they were lube before they left the factory any comments ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Never thought it would happen to Kotton Klenser
i have one i got in florida but its a 45 In a message dated 10/23/2009 9:45:28 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, appywan...@hotmail.com writes: Indiana -- where I now live -- had the highest Klan membership of any state during the 1920's Klan hey-dey. I was just in a shop in rural Indiana and spotted a 'KKK' 78rpm record. From: esrobe...@hotmail.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:19:34 + Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Never thought it would happen to Kotton Klenser Good point, Rich. Actually, Les Docks (the Record Pricing Guide guy) told me that in his native Michigan, it was what he considered a hotbed of Klan activity. I found that astounding. I suppose, just like smart, kind, and gracious people, stupid people are everywhere too! Bless their hearts. (Now THAT'S Southern.) :) r. Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 07:53:56 -0500 From: rich-m...@octoxol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Never thought it would happen to Kotton Klenser Don't limit yourself to just the south for having these views/thoughts. ...referring to individuals who live in the 60's in terms of racial prejudice, of which I encounter many in my day-to-day life here in the South, who come up with (and believe in) even wackier stuff than this. john9...@pacbell.net wrote: Oh, ok thanks! _ Windows 7: It helps you do more. Explore Windows 7. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen3:102009 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Never thought it would happen to Kotton Klenser
so true my partners are from detroit and talk about a bad attitude for prejudice but they were mugged and robbed a lot there i believe we all bleed the same In a message dated 10/23/2009 9:20:05 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, esrobe...@hotmail.com writes: Good point, Rich. Actually, Les Docks (the Record Pricing Guide guy) told me that in his native Michigan, it was what he considered a hotbed of Klan activity. I found that astounding. I suppose, just like smart, kind, and gracious people, stupid people are everywhere too! Bless their hearts. (Now THAT'S Southern.) :) r. Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 07:53:56 -0500 From: rich-m...@octoxol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Never thought it would happen to Kotton Klenser Don't limit yourself to just the south for having these views/thoughts. ...referring to individuals who live in the 60's in terms of racial prejudice, of which I encounter many in my day-to-day life here in the South, who come up with (and believe in) even wackier stuff than this. john9...@pacbell.net wrote: Oh, ok thanks! _ Windows 7: It helps you do more. Explore Windows 7. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLM TAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen3:102009 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Photos of Andy's VV-XVIII
waves has one on ebay he was offering it for 3600 at wayne In a message dated 10/23/2009 4:18:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ander...@tampabay.rr.com writes: Andy, Great score and great machine! Your lucky because you get to feel good every time you look at it! I got a couple of machines that I get that good feeling from. Steve Andersen http://www.theedisonshop.com On Oct 23, 2009, at 3:41 PM, bruce78...@comcast.net wrote: Absolutely Gorgeous !! What a splendid example of top the line Victor Cabinetry at its best !! Bruce - Original Message - From: Andrew Baron a...@popyrus.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Cc: Greg Lockwood greg.lockw...@swcp.com Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 3:13:40 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [Phono-L] Photos of Andy's VV-XVIII Hi all and many thanks for your thoughtful comments on my XVIII story. The phonograph continues to give pleasure. I overhauled the reproducer, set the speed with a strobe disc, and have played perhaps two dozen sides by now; listening as I continue to clean, polish and fuss over its cosmetic issues. This is the first time I've used an image-hosting service, so I hope it works for those interested in viewing the machine. Viewing the photos shouldn't require any kind of log-in. You can double-click each image to see it large, and also drag the entire browser window larger, which will stretch the photos even bigger. If there's something pertinent to be aware of that relates to a particular image, I've put in a brief sentence or two that should appear below some of them. You can see in the images that I borrowed the lower key escutcheon from my XVII. Still looking for one of these if anyone has one. Finally, the before series of pictures isn't a true untouched view. I had already done a quickie clean up to get the first layer of grime off when the before photos were shot. The after 1st cleanup photos show it as it looks right now. There's still work to be done as can be seen. Here's the link: http://s599.photobucket.com/albums/tt71/andybaron_photos/Victor%20VV-XVIII/ If for some reason it doesn't work for you, let me know. Best to all, Andy Baron Santa Fe ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Columbia BNW value??
hi glen i agree with this i paid 450 for one about 7 years ago but the metal horn on this is at least 450 if it is in good shape In a message dated 10/30/2009 12:10:08 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, harveykrav...@yahoo.com writes: Hi Glen, the machine is worth around $900. It's a fairly late machine and needs a good cleaning. The BNW is a scarce machine. You don't see to many of these. I also have a late BNW and I paid $900 for mine. Hopes this will help you. Good luck with your purchase. Harvey Kravitz From: Glenn Longwell majesticrec...@snet.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thu, October 29, 2009 11:21:53 AM Subject: [Phono-L] Columbia BNW value?? Hey folks, looking for some help. I have an opportunity to acquire a Columbia BNW. What's the going rate for one of these for a fair offer? Pictures are up on my website at http://www.majesticrecord.com/columbiabnw.htm. This would be my first outside horn disc machine. So am out of touch on values. I'm also figuring it's a BNW based on Columbia Phonograph Companion by Robert Baumbach. Corrections welcome. Thanks for your help. Glenn ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Looking For The Fred Barnum Book
hi follow ebay there have been three of them on there in the last year they seem to go for about 150 now boy i am glad i got mine when it came out zono -Original Message- From: kugl...@wmconnect.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Mon, Nov 2, 2009 6:10 pm Subject: [Phono-L] Looking For The Fred Barnum Book Hi - Does anyone have or know when I can find a copy of this book? Any help very much appreciated. Thanks. Brantley ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Looking For The Fred Barnum Book
hi the book was only about 40 new at shows and on ebay i have seen it for about 150 -Original Message- From: Ray Phyllis Wilenzick wilenz...@bellsouth.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tue, Nov 3, 2009 11:42 am Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Looking For The Fred Barnum Book Is the book really worth $625 to $900? One dealer has one for $1,600!! Ray - Original Message - From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com To: Phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 8:14 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Looking For The Fred Barnum Book http://www.bookbutler.com/compare.html?searchFor=0939766167amountIn=usdshipTo=ussearchIn=uszip= From: kugl...@wmconnect.com Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 18:10:39 -0500 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Looking For The Fred Barnum Book Hi - Does anyone have or know when I can find a copy of this book? Any help very much appreciated. Thanks. Brantley ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org = ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] hello all
i just picked up on ebay a talking book from canada joan and robin you may know its the watermelon coon and the front banner is blank but the back and front are the same as the us version other than the canadian address in 1919 was canada pc in not putting the title on the front there is no erasure of the title it just was never printed on it thanks zono ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Christmas miracle
PROBABLY THE SELLER LOL ZONO In a message dated 12/4/2009 3:19:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, bruce78...@comcast.net writes: I hope they come forward and Identify themselves, we certainly need something outrageous and provocative and crazy like this to finally displace Tiger Woods from the top of the headlines every evening !! - Original Message - From: Jay Horenstein jay.horenst...@gmail.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Friday, December 4, 2009 1:39:35 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [Phono-L] Christmas miracle Well...the $70,000 shroud of Jesus Silvertone auction has ended. I wonder who the blessed winner is? ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Victor II on ebay
HI ALL it appears to me that all the nickel is off it does not appear to be gold plated zono In a message dated 12/14/2009 4:33:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, bruce78...@comcast.net writes: =370303962111 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] What did I buy? Ebay item 220523099867
brice i so agree with you ebay is cavet emptor and this machine was cheap enough even if just for parts i am sure we have all spent more than that on a meal out happy holidays to all zono -Original Message- From: brice paris antqf...@yahoo.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tue, Dec 15, 2009 11:26 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What did I buy? Ebay item 220523099867 I am a little shocked here. Not sure who is being taken, item does not seem to be misrepresented and the pictures are clear. A bidder has a responsibility to follow through on their contract win or lose. What am I missing??? From: William Buchanan ret.army...@yahoo.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 6:20:44 PM Subject: [Phono-L] What did I buy? Ebay item 220523099867 Friends, It's a hard thing to admit that you've been taken, but the good thing is that it was not for much and I have not paid him yet. But if this is at least a real Victrola I will have no problems paying him. Can somebody tell me what I purchased? Ebay item 220523099867 They said it is a Victrola VV I-90 but it's not so what is this? Thank you Bill ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org hi i ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] The last word on Diamond Discs...I think
ger _Michigan Antique Phonograph Society_ (http://www.michiganantiquephonographsociety.org/) you should go to one of the phono shows in the spring there is one in wayne new jersey and i believe lynn bilton still has one in connecticut about 50 mile south of you down rte 7 you may be able to find it on maps link In a message dated 12/26/2009 10:14:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ge...@comcast.net writes: The poor London model of Edison's Diamond Disc machine looks like it had been tortured. The vertical section was there afterall, but a cable, wood block and some other things (part going into the horn) were missing. Someone had SOLDERED the horn on the top to another piece (sloppy shiney solder), I guess to keep it from dragging...poor soul of a machine. My impression is that without ALL the parts, there would be stress on both the record grooves and the diamond reproducer, which would be forced to take on the burden of moving the heavy pieces across the record...at least that's the way it seems to me. Needless to say, the machine still sits with the seller...who is now a bit wiser, since I shared the photo and what I knew with her. She seemed not at all disappointed and actually fascinated to learn something about the poor mess. As for its WEIGHT. I've got an AH-HAH! I took the flashlight and checked out the left side where the 24 slots for records was. I could see that 2, that's TWO, thick metal weights were in place behind the slots. They went across the back, one high, one low. This was probably to balance the weight of the phono in the right-sided compartment. BOTH sides were equally heavy, and I mean heavy! I could not lift one corner. Wow, was all I could say. But again. This was a fun adventure and learning experience which didn't cost many bucks. It would not have been either without the help of this great group. :) I will, however, now keep an eye out for an Edison (table model) which could play my records! And I think I know a little bit about how these machines work...not a lot, but enough probably to just get into more trouble. LOL Oh, and I will wash the records with denatured alcohol before I put them away. One last question on STORAGE: Store records flat, right? But what do you put between them, and is a paper box OK ? Thank you all, Ger ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Hello Everyone and Cradenza backboard needed
HI BILL welcome to the list great car you have too lets get glen on the list too happy holidays rob in florida -Original Message- From: zucc...@comcast.net To: PhonoList phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 6:00 pm Subject: [Phono-L] Hello Everyone and Cradenza backboard needed Hello everyone on Phono-L: I am a new subscriber to Phono-L and would like to introduce myself. I live in Vermont and am primarily a collector of records (1920s hot dance jazz, as well as film soundtrack and early radio discs) but I have a few machines and love listening to them. Victor Credenza story: I always took with a grain of salt any story I heard about how wonderful it was to listen to early electrical records on a Victor Credenza preferring to use my nice Numark turntable, a truncated 2.5 mil stylus, my Souvenir noise reduction unit, and nice, quiet amp. I was quite vocal about this too whenever the subject of playing records and cylinders on original equipment came up for discussion. But then I heard a scroll Victor Gems from Rio Rita played on a friend's Credenza , one that had been properly restored , and I couldn't believe the warmth and depth of the sound. I bought one and restored it and while I wouldn't play my best store stock records on it, I do have several crates of late '20s scroll Victors that listen to on the big machine. That leads me to a request. I have acquired a second full-sized Credenza that is without its backboard and wonder if anyone on the list might have one available so I can complete its restoration. If you do, please contact me privately at zuccawt @comcast.net Best regards to everyone and Happy New Year. Bill Zucca ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] 1904 Edison triumph A with automatic reproducer
HOPE HE GETS IT TOO BAD ITS NOT A MOBLEY OR FLETCHER REPRODUCER M ZONO In a message dated 12/30/2009 5:37:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, steve_nor...@msn.com writes: http://cgi.ebay.com/Edison-Triumph-Model-A-Cylinder-Machine-RARE_W0QQitemZ17 0426053885 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Shipping phonographs
i agree with you steve and it took me over a year to get a settlement from them for a victor m motor that was broken in transit best to all zono In a message dated 1/1/2010 5:04:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, steve_nor...@msn.com writes: I highly recommend if anyone purchases a phono that the seller says will be sent UPS, ask them to send it Fed Ex ground. I have had 2 triumphs and an order of auto parts damaged by UPS. UPS is wonderful for small, light parts, but larger ones seem to get dropper or crushed by their automatic alligator mouth sorting system. Save a phono, use Fed Ex. Also Fed Ex is much easier to collect from if there is an accident. Steve ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Shipping phonographs
hi all on bigger items, believe it or not, i have used greyhound and not had any problem and its very cost effective i agree on the fork lift problem i had one victor one cabinet sent to me from vermont to florida that had a gaping hole in the back of it from a fork lift and ups was the provider in this case zono In a message dated 1/1/2010 10:43:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, abefed...@gmail.com writes: Hi All, I hate to tell all of you this but there is no magic bullet. I have been in the art business for 35 years and have used FedX , UPS and others and the fact is that you gotta build a box that will take just about any form of bad treatment. One of my nephews grew up working 1st for FedX -4 years and UPS-6 years and now works for a speciality shipper and freight company that deals in special shipment of special goods. The stories he told of both companies made my head hurt and no matter what shipper I use I build a box that will make it almost anywhere and my last item still did not get there. They drive a fork lift arm right through it and I used 3/4 plywood for sides. 3 months later the customer got a ck for $15000.00. But they did EVERYTHING they could to keep from paying the claim. Photos showing how the crate was put together shamed them and a bit of advice from my nephew to stay on them at least twice a week really worked. For our phono's small units well packed under normal conditions should get there. Larger units, either know someone who can get it back to you- or pay the very high price of craters and freighters. On more expensive machines it is OK but on standard ones the freight charge can make it really to expensive to purchase a machine like a c-250. I am working through that on a machine now. But bottom line on a common carrier youse pays your money and takes your chances Happy New Year Abe On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Bill Boruff boru...@flash.net wrote: Steve- FedEx does not always use kid gloves when handling packages. During this past year I shipped a banner front Edison Home in 3 boxes with each carefully packed to withstand any rough handling. One box was for the case, one for the mechanism and one for the horn. The mechanism was badly damaged when the tines of a fork lift went completely through the center of its box. The motor frame was broken into pieces and the bolts holding the motor frame to the bedplate were sheared off. It was the last time I shipped a machine via FedEx! Bill On Jan 1, 2010, at 3:34 PM, Steven Medved wrote: I highly recommend if anyone purchases a phono that the seller says will be sent UPS, ask them to send it Fed Ex ground. I have had 2 triumphs and an order of auto parts damaged by UPS. UPS is wonderful for small, light parts, but larger ones seem to get dropper or crushed by their automatic alligator mouth sorting system. Save a phono, use Fed Ex. Also Fed Ex is much easier to collect from if there is an accident. Steve ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Identify phonograph drawing
kurt nauck has them on her auction list on occassion i have about 5 they are interesting -Original Message- From: Glenn Longwell majesticrec...@snet.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:56 pm Subject: [Phono-L] Identify phonograph drawing A few months back I had mentioned on this list that I bought a Crescent phonograph. Besides a phonograph manufacturer they were a vertical cut record brand. Their phonographs were equipped to play both vertical and lateral. Talking with the granddaughter of the original owner she was fairly sure the machine was purchased in Rhode Island. Just recently said contacted me back to say she found a couple more records (no Crescents unfortunately) but there was a sleeve which I asked her to send me. I have posted the sleeve here with a separate picture of the phonograph: www.majesticrecord.com/traverssleeve.htm This likely confirms that they did buy it in Pawtucket as the woman had originally guessed. The record prices on it are pretty interesting as well as citing 8 inch double sided records. I wonder if these were Crescents, or Operaphones. What I'm interested in knowing is whether the drawing of a phonograph is identifiable as a real phonograph. It shows a reproducer set up to play vertical records. Can anyone identify it? Thanks, Glenn ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] hi just trying to get hold of the rolfs
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[Phono-L] victrola electric 18
hi all i just purchased a electrola 18 does any one have a set of instruction books for this its a different on and off control and trying to figure out how it is set up thanks zono ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Now I've seen everything. Phono shaped like a house
now i used to own a cathedral upright phono zono In a message dated 2/9/2010 3:22:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ediso...@verizon.net writes: Ah, the Chapelphone! (Cathedrola ? Kierkovox ? )Now we need to see a house shaped like a phono ! - Original Message - From: Glenn Longwell majesticrec...@snet.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Now I've seen everything. Phono shaped like a house Here's another one for your viewing pleasure... I saw this at the Claymont, DE phono show back in 2003 and took pictures. The dealer, can't remember who, wanted several thousand dollars for it. It didn't sell. I think it was the only thing this particular dealer brought. www.majesticrecord.com/phono.htm Glenn --- On Tue, 2/9/10, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote: From: Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Now I've seen everything. Phono shaped like a house To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 6:04 PM Neat! But shouldn't there be a coo coo bird there somewhere? Ron -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of john robles Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 12:04 AM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Now I've seen everything. Phono shaped like a house Good evening all Here's something interesting on eBay..a Schwarzwaldhaus phonograph. Schwarzwald means Black Forest. Item number is 270528488201. Check it out! John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Vehicle?
HI ALL For my two cents i have a corvette and a avalanche they are both great cars and great mileage on the vette the avalanche is a great truck but the mileage is not seems all cars have some problems i e the nissans and toyotas in the news lately too its a mechanical device and like even phonographs can have some problems just my thoughts zono In a message dated 3/8/2010 12:41:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jim...@earthlink.net writes: Hybrids are not yet what they are cracked up to be.I had an 2006 Lexus Rx400h its actual mileage, both in town on the road, was consistently 6 - 8 miles below its rated mileage. I don't think hybrid technology is yet perfected. One should wait for the next generation hybrids with more efficient batteries, etc. Jim Cartwright Immortal Performances, Inc. jim...@earthlink.net [Original Message] From: Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: 07-Mar-2010 10:37:07 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Vehicle? nice, but more expensive than I can handle and it does not get great mileage. I'm not happy when I only get 28 to the gallon instead of 30. I wish I could afford a hybrid. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of john9...@pacbell.net Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 7:43 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Vehicle? I higly recommend the Suzuki XL7. Split back seats, lotsa features, I can fit a victrola xvi easily, comfortable..I love mine! John Robles --Original Message-- From: Ron L'Herault Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org To: 'Antique Phonograph List' ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Vehicle? Sent: Mar 7, 2010 12:20 PM Dang, I was hoping the Honda Fit would be big enough for a common upright Victrola. It fills all my other criteria.What about the Kia Soul? and doesn't Hyundai have a hatchback? Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of jim...@earthlink.net Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 2:47 PM To: Phono-L@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Vehicle? I am on the verge of getting a new vehicle thought I'd ask the advice of Phono-L members since, like myself, you all have need to haul antique phonographs. I'd like to have cargo capacity to transport the typical Victrola (XVI), the typical Edison Diamond Disc Phonograph (C-250) as well the Orthophonic Credenza - when I need to haul an Orthophonic changer or a Capehart, I'll continue to use my 1969 GMC pickup. I want a smaller, more economical 4 cylinder vehicle have looked at Hondas (all of which have too small a cargo area except the Element which I consider unattractive) Toyotas (Scion, Metric, RAV 4 Venza,all of which will accommodate the above mentioned machines) am leaning towards the RAV4 but thought it might be nice to get your input before making a final decision. Thanks! Jim Cartwright Immortal Performances, Inc. jim...@earthlink.net ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Fwd: Story about Ken Woodbury
From: zonophone2...@aol.com To: ladynids...@aol.com, zonophone2...@aol.com Sent: 3/16/2010 4:56:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Fwd: Story about Ken Woodbury From: ggur...@hotmail.com To: mid...@earthlink.net, zonophone2...@aol.com, d...@dgio.net, bauerk...@msn.com, na...@78rpm.com, ps...@us.ibm.com, corni...@comcast.net, l...@intertique.com, mbr...@catamountarts.org, 78rpm...@comcast.net CC: lawrence.dub...@uvm.edu, jmvill...@aol.com, big...@suscom-maine.net, musicalland...@charter.net, cfkri...@hotmail.com, mmleve...@earthlink.net, ascob...@aol.com, markely...@earthlink.net, fran...@dishmail.net, recordp...@aol.com, lkras...@optonline.net Sent: 3/16/2010 2:30:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Story about Ken Woodbury Hello, everyone. I was chatting with Ken Woodbury today about the one-month-away Wayne show. I mentioned the upcoming anniversary of Ken's heart attack at a prior April show and he led me to this link which provides some insight into what happened to him that fateful day. He was technically dead on the floor at the PAL and was brought back to happier times and a normal life, all through the experimental new cool technology described in this article. I thought some of you would enjoy reading it, as I did. Glen Gurwit _http://www.stjosephshealth.org/index.php/using-cool-technology-to-save-hear ts_ (http://www.stjosephshealth.org/index.php/using-cool-technology-to-save-hearts) _ggur...@hotmail.com_ (mailto:ggur...@hotmail.com) = ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Fwd: Fwd: Story about Ken Woodbury
From: zonophone2...@aol.com Reply-to: phono-l@oldcrank.org To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: 3/16/2010 9:41:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: [Phono-L] Fwd: Story about Ken Woodbury From: zonophone2...@aol.com To: ladynids...@aol.com, zonophone2...@aol.com Sent: 3/16/2010 4:56:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Fwd: Story about Ken Woodbury From: ggur...@hotmail.com To: mid...@earthlink.net, zonophone2...@aol.com, d...@dgio.net, bauerk...@msn.com, na...@78rpm.com, ps...@us.ibm.com, corni...@comcast.net, l...@intertique.com, mbr...@catamountarts.org, 78rpm...@comcast.net CC: lawrence.dub...@uvm.edu, jmvill...@aol.com, big...@suscom-maine.net, musicalland...@charter.net, cfkri...@hotmail.com, mmleve...@earthlink.net, ascob...@aol.com, markely...@earthlink.net, fran...@dishmail.net, recordp...@aol.com, lkras...@optonline.net Sent: 3/16/2010 2:30:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Story about Ken Woodbury Hello, everyone. I was chatting with Ken Woodbury today about the one-month-away Wayne show. I mentioned the upcoming anniversary of Ken's heart attack at a prior April show and he led me to this link which provides some insight into what happened to him that fateful day. He was technically dead on the floor at the PAL and was brought back to happier times and a normal life, all through the experimental new cool technology described in this article. I thought some of you would enjoy reading it, as I did. Glen Gurwit _http://www.stjosephshealth.org/index.php/using-cool-technology-to-save-hear ts_ (http://www.stjosephshealth.org/index.php/using-cool-technology-to-save-hear ts) _ggur...@hotmail.com_ (mailto:ggur...@hotmail.com) = ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] hello all
hi a few years ago i got some repro berliner parts from a gentleman named stilek in canada does anyone have his email thanks zono ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Vitaphone Tone Arm
its an interesting machine i have one and know of quite a few out there In a message dated 4/18/2010 7:41:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bruce78...@comcast.net writes: Good Luck with your sale Bob, I went to the link and that is really fascinating alternate sound technology for its time. Wonder how many of the actual units still survive. Bruce - Original Message - From: Bob rvu...@comcast.net To: Phono L List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:15:31 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [Phono-L] Vitaphone Tone Arm I am in the process of downsizing and am selling off miscellaneous phonograph items. I have a complete tone arm and diaphragm for a Vitaphone phonograph. I know this design was manufactured and sold in Canada from 1913 to 1916. It is unusual in that the tone arm did not contain the diaphragm. It was mounted in a stand at the rear of the arm. The arm is made of wood and it vibrated. The vibrations were transferred to the diaphragm which is mounted at the rear of the arm. My arm is similar to those shown at http://www.keithwright.ca/CAPP/Vitaphone/vitaphone.html According to this web sight the tone arm was capable of playing both lateral and vertical cut records. I can supply pictures of my parts to anyone that is seriously interested in it. I don't have an idea of the value of this piece so I will sell it to the highest offer I receive. If you are interested, email me at rvu...@comcast.net and I will provide detailed pictures of my part. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Which would you choose - Opera or Fireside?
HI JOHN you did right a triumph is a good machine but does take up alot of room if it had been an idelia that would be different but the fireside is a nice one with a good horn and more compact kudos zono -Original Message- From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:44 pm Subject: [Phono-L] Which would you choose - Opera or Fireside? Hi everyone, and a very nice Sunday to you all. I went to our Golden State Phonograph Society (California MAPS Chapter) club meeting at Ron Dethlefson's house yesterday, and as we usually offer things for sale, I took my Triumph model B with 2/4 conversion, model H reproducer and repro 14 horn and my Fireside A with orig Fireside horn in very nice condition. I had only taken the Fireside because a friend was going to bring me a Fireside crane so I could hang the horn. I took the Triumph on a whim. So what happened is that I ended up choosing between them. I sold the Triumph and kept the Fireside. The Triumph takes a huge bite out of my room with the MG horn, and I don't like it with the 14 horn. The Fireside looks great with a very nice original red horn I got recently. Lots of paint on the horn. And the machine plays great. So although the Triumph is a nice heavy duty machine, very nice condition, 2/4, I still preferred the Fireside. Now for the question - Have you ever made a choice between a more valuable and rarer machine and a less valuable and more common machine? and if so, which one did you keep? John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Which would you choose - Opera or Fireside?
my best one was when i bought my triumph and was new to collecting i was offered a mahogany triumph and a oak one for the same price and a friend convinced me to buy the oak if i had only known forty years ago lol zono -Original Message- From: Dennis Back back...@yahoo.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:05 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Which would you choose - Opera or Fireside? Opera or Fireside? Let me think about it. ;-) But seriously, yes.for my first cylinder machine, 28 years ago, I picked an Edison Standard A over a 4 clip Standard. It was pointed out to me that the particular 4 clip was a much quieter machine, not to mention probably more valuable as it was older than the Standard A. They were both the same price. As I said, I picked the Standard A because it had the nice, large Edison banner. BTWmy wife bought this for me as a wedding present 28 years ago. :-) Dennis ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Which would you choose - Opera or Fireside?
hi all i have a d2 triumph but believe it for not it never had a cygnet my cygnet is on my idelia and my concert / opera the concert is my workhouse its the best for playing ba s the idelia is a nice machine but more for show than use all it is is a glorified triumph anyway they are all fun to own best to all zono In a message dated 4/19/2010 4:57:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, harveykrav...@yahoo.com writes: In my case, I'll take my Triumph with a wood Cygnet horn. When I first started collecting over 20 years ago, my first cylinder machine was a Fireside. It plays good and is compact. I was living in the barracks at the Bremerton Navy yard. I still have that machine. I really didn't care if I had a Triumph or not I couldn't afford one. A few years down the road, I got a Triumph Model D with the oak Cygnet horn and reproducer really cheap. I like the Cygnet horn because it doesn't take up a lot of room like a Triumph morning glory horn will take. That about the closest I'll have to an Opera. Maybe I'll get lucky and stumble into an Opera. Harvey Kravitz From: Dennis Back back...@yahoo.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sun, April 18, 2010 6:05:59 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Which would you choose - Opera or Fireside? Opera or Fireside? Let me think about it. ;-) But seriously, yes.for my first cylinder machine, 28 years ago, I picked an Edison Standard A over a 4 clip Standard. It was pointed out to me that the particular 4 clip was a much quieter machine, not to mention probably more valuable as it was older than the Standard A. They were both the same price. As I said, I picked the Standard A because it had the nice, large Edison banner. BTWmy wife bought this for me as a wedding present 28 years ago. :-) Dennis ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] hello all - Berliner Repro Parts
THANK YOU i am ordering some parts but he is almost out of the business thanks rob -Original Message- From: Curt Angstman vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sun, Apr 25, 2010 12:00 am Subject: Re: [Phono-L] hello all - Berliner Repro Parts Ken, I bought some repro parts from Miroslav Stehlik in Canada. He makes the fibre gears and most, if not all of the replacement parts. His email address is: m.steh...@sentex.ca Curt Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:36:14 -0700 From: phonogra...@charter.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] hello all Hi Ken, Good to hear from you. sorry I don't have any guts for a Berliner. I have a repro case, tone arm and traveling arm. Any good finds lately? Will you be going to Bill Bailey's meeting on 5/22? Scott. Ken and Brenda Brekke kb...@charter.net wrote: Scott, Any chance you have a repro gear for a Trademark Berliner? I am looking for the one with the ratchet pawls on it. Contact me off list at kb...@charter.net. Thanks, Ken B. -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Scott Malawski Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 6:48 PM To: 'Antique Phonograph List' Subject: Re: [Phono-L] hello all Hey Rob; What parts are you looking for? I have a few repro parts here. Hope you are doing well. Scott. -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of zonophone2...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 11:54 AM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] hello all hi a few years ago i got some repro berliner parts from a gentleman named stilek in canada does anyone have his email thanks zono ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendarocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] re mirek and his prices
hello all i had planned on getting some parts from mirek be careful he raised his prices over his old catalog and is greedy on shipping as well this is our correspondence hopefully he will have the rest of his inventory for the rest of his life be careful all rob NO PROBLEM YOUR GREED ON SHIPPING TURNED ME OFF] I DIDNT MIND THE PRICES GOING UP BUT I AM SURE I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO SAID THIS TO YOU HAVE A GREAT LIFE rob -Original Message- From: Miroslav Stehlik m.steh...@sentex.ca To: zonophone2...@aol.com Sent: Wed, Apr 28, 2010 10:38 am Subject: Re: Fw: good morning Hi Rob, Thank you for taking my time for nothing! Please, do not order from me any more. Your los! Happy collecting! Mirek - Original Message - From: zonophone2...@aol.com To: m.steh...@sentex.ca Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 3:49 AM Subject: Re: Fw: good morning hi mirek i have been thinking it over and will pass on the order i cant get out during the day for the m.o. thank you rob In a message dated 4/28/2010 1:13:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, m.steh...@sentex.ca writes: Hi, Are you still interested? I sold two Zonos today! I will be in Europe most of May, leaving next Monday Mirek - Original Message - From: Miroslav Stehlik To: zonophone2...@aol.com Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 5:11 PM Subject: Re: good morning Hi, You are ordering the following : two zonophone reproducers..$330.00 2 Berliner fiber gears,148 Teeth.$ 96.00 2 Berliner hold down nuts...$ 44.00 1 long curved crank...$ 29.00 Sub Total$ 499.00 Shipping/H: Expedited Parcel ( surf.Mail traceable ).. $ 22.00 ( no insurance) $27.00* ( insured for $500.00)* Payment by International Money Order or equivalent, the Total is.. $ 512.00 or* $ 517.00* When paying by PayPal, the Total is$ 532.00 I will ship as soon as I receive the payment ( next work. day) * Note, that I can not be responsible for lost or damage to the shipment! Please comfirm your choices. Mirek = ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] re mirek and his prices
hi all it was his whole general attitude i would not buy from him again if it was free we are all consumers and if we treat our customers with a bad attitude we loose customers anyway its over and i wont deal with him or his attitude best to all and i hope i am the only one beside john who he has copped an attitude with happy collecting all rob In a message dated 4/28/2010 1:03:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, john9...@pacbell.net writes: I once dealt with Mirek and he was similarly nasty with me. John Robles Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:50:03 To: 'Antique Phonograph List'phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] re mirek and his prices Unless one knows the weight of the packed shipment, a buyer can't really tell if the shipper is off the mark with his shipping costs, and I believe he Marek in Canada, right? Shipping from Canada is always more expensive in my experience. If you want an inflated price for shipping try the $10 I was charged to ship 0.1 pounds (less than two ounces) of repro car parts from PA to MA. They use UPS. The post office would have cost under $2.00 I'll bet. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of zonophone2...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:44 AM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] re mirek and his prices hello all i had planned on getting some parts from mirek be careful he raised his prices over his old catalog and is greedy on shipping as well this is our correspondence hopefully he will have the rest of his inventory for the rest of his life be careful all rob NO PROBLEM YOUR GREED ON SHIPPING TURNED ME OFF] I DIDNT MIND THE PRICES GOING UP BUT I AM SURE I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO SAID THIS TO YOU HAVE A GREAT LIFE rob -Original Message- From: Miroslav Stehlik m.steh...@sentex.ca To: zonophone2...@aol.com Sent: Wed, Apr 28, 2010 10:38 am Subject: Re: Fw: good morning Hi Rob, Thank you for taking my time for nothing! Please, do not order from me any more. Your los! Happy collecting! Mirek - Original Message - From: zonophone2...@aol.com To: m.steh...@sentex.ca Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 3:49 AM Subject: Re: Fw: good morning hi mirek i have been thinking it over and will pass on the order i cant get out during the day for the m.o. thank you rob In a message dated 4/28/2010 1:13:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, m.steh...@sentex.ca writes: Hi, Are you still interested? I sold two Zonos today! I will be in Europe most of May, leaving next Monday Mirek - Original Message - From: Miroslav Stehlik To: zonophone2...@aol.com Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 5:11 PM Subject: Re: good morning Hi, You are ordering the following : two zonophone reproducers..$330.00 2 Berliner fiber gears,148 Teeth.$ 96.00 2 Berliner hold down nuts...$ 44.00 1 long curved crank...$ 29.00 Sub Total$ 499.00 Shipping/H: Expedited Parcel ( surf.Mail traceable ).. $ 22.00 ( no insurance) $27.00* ( insured for $500.00)* Payment by International Money Order or equivalent, the Total is.. $ 512.00 or* $ 517.00* When paying by PayPal, the Total is$ 532.00 I will ship as soon as I receive the payment ( next work. day) * Note, that I can not be responsible for lost or damage to the shipment! Please comfirm your choices. Mirek = ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L] Wayne Show Stanton Auction
hi all i had a friend who bought and idelia three years ago for 17 k it needed some restoration so its a matter of condition i love my idelia and would not sell it for that cheap so its up to the market place In a message dated 4/28/2010 3:15:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, valecnik57-p...@yahoo.com writes: What kind of condition was the Idelia in? $20,000 does not seem like a record price. Bruce Johnson youTube channel: www.youtube.com/user/Cylinderphonograph Phono-L] Wayne Show Stanton Auction Tuesday, April 27, 2010 6:26:59 PM From: Robin Joan Rolfs nip...@dataex.com To: Phono-L phono-l@oldcrank.org Greetings, Photo's of the Wayne Show can be found on the WIMAPS website at www.wimaps.org The show was well attended and sales were brisk. A rainy day detoured sales in the parking lot on Saturday. The show is growing and the attendance was excellent. The Stanton auction was incredible with awesome phonographs for sale. Buyers were ready to stimulate the economy and prices for rare items set some record prices. Highlights were: Eldridge Johnson Model C phonograph: $3500.00 Very rare Salter mahogany double bow front record cabinet: $6700.00 Rare lever-wind ratchet phonograph: $21,000.00 Edison Idealia Cylinder Phonograph: $20,000.00 Vogue records sold between $25.00 $35.00 with the exception of a few rare Vogues that made $100.00 Phonograph lamps were in demand with a Fairy Lamp bringing $3800.00. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] re mirek and his prices
In a message dated 4/28/2010 1:03:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, john9...@pacbell.net writes: I once dealt with Mirek and he was similarly nasty with me. John Robles Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:50:03 To: 'Antique Phonograph List'phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] re mirek and his prices Unless one knows the weight of the packed shipment, a buyer can't really tell if the shipper is off the mark with his shipping costs, and I believe he Marek in Canada, right? Shipping from Canada is always more expensive in my experience. If you want an inflated price for shipping try the $10 I was charged to ship 0.1 pounds (less than two ounces) of repro car parts from PA to MA. They use UPS. The post office would have cost under $2.00 I'll bet. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of zonophone2...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:44 AM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] re mirek and his prices hello all i had planned on getting some parts from mirek be careful he raised his prices over his old catalog and is greedy on shipping as well this is our correspondence hopefully he will have the rest of his inventory for the rest of his life be careful all rob NO PROBLEM YOUR GREED ON SHIPPING TURNED ME OFF] I DIDNT MIND THE PRICES GOING UP BUT I AM SURE I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO SAID THIS TO YOU HAVE A GREAT LIFE rob -Original Message- From: Miroslav Stehlik m.steh...@sentex.ca To: zonophone2...@aol.com Sent: Wed, Apr 28, 2010 10:38 am Subject: Re: Fw: good morning Hi Rob, Thank you for taking my time for nothing! Please, do not order from me any more. Your los! Happy collecting! Mirek - Original Message - From: zonophone2...@aol.com To: m.steh...@sentex.ca Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 3:49 AM Subject: Re: Fw: good morning hi mirek i have been thinking it over and will pass on the order i cant get out during the day for the m.o. thank you rob In a message dated 4/28/2010 1:13:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, m.steh...@sentex.ca writes: Hi, Are you still interested? I sold two Zonos today! I will be in Europe most of May, leaving next Monday Mirek - Original Message - From: Miroslav Stehlik To: zonophone2...@aol.com Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 5:11 PM Subject: Re: good morning Hi, You are ordering the following : two zonophone reproducers..$330.00 2 Berliner fiber gears,148 Teeth.$ 96.00 2 Berliner hold down nuts...$ 44.00 1 long curved crank...$ 29.00 Sub Total$ 499.00 Shipping/H: Expedited Parcel ( surf.Mail traceable ).. $ 22.00 ( no insurance) $27.00* ( insured for $500.00)* Payment by International Money Order or equivalent, the Total is.. $ 512.00 or* $ 517.00* When paying by PayPal, the Total is$ 532.00 I will ship as soon as I receive the payment ( next work. day) * Note, that I can not be responsible for lost or damage to the shipment! Please comfirm your choices. Mirek = ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] re mirek and his prices
mirek had told me he was selling out and if you look at an old catalog he raised his prices considerably when jerry madsen sold out he was not greedy and sold at fair prices mirek did make good quality items and i have bought from him in the past its just his attitude now and how to screw the customer since he wont need us anymore i have said my feeling on it and wish anyone else better luck dealing with him In a message dated 4/28/2010 3:24:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, boru...@flash.net writes: Mike - I agree with you I have purchased several parts from Mirek and have always been very satisfied with both the quality and the cost which is only a fraction of what an original part would cost - assuming you could find one. As far as shipping goes, it is expensive to ship out of the country. Shipping a 4 pound 1 ounce package from the US to Canada costs a minimum of $27.00 via USPS and it doesn't take much to weigh 4 pounds. I certainly hope that suppliers like Mirek continue their valuable contribution to our hobby. Bill On Apr 28, 2010, at 1:31 PM, Mike Stitt wrote: Whoa, Many people that make parts come and go. Good quality reproduction parts can turn a machine useful and displayable until an original part can be found if at all. I take a different view, I'm very thankful all these people do what they do and I doubt they are getting rich and perhaps in many cases just covering cost. Regardless of shipping cost or attitude I appreciate having the option. He is after all making parts for a very limited production run. Now if you pay a parts supplier and don't get your parts that is a conversation to have. Oldcranky Mike On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:47 AM, john9...@pacbell.net wrote: Agreed. I charge exact shipping and I usually have boxes onhand. If I have to buy new boxes I might charge $1 or so. Sometimes you have to pay the cost of doing business as a courtesy. I have found that it builds repeat customers. John Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: bruce78...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 17:41:53 To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] re mirek and his prices Folks who deliberately try to stuff their pockets with your money by deliberately inflating the shipping costs on an item, are nothing short of despicable . That is a fact !! - Original Message - From: Ron L'Herault lherault @bu. edu To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@ oldcrank .org Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 12:50:03 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Phono-L] re mirek and his prices Unless one knows the weight of the packed shipment, a buyer can't really tell if the shipper is off the mark with his shipping costs, and I believe he Marek in Canada, right? Shipping from Canada is always more expensive in my experience. If you want an inflated price for shipping try the $10 I was charged to ship 0.1 pounds (less than two ounces) of repro car parts from PA to MA. They use UPS. The post office would have cost under $2.00 I'll bet. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-bounces@ oldcrank .org [ mailto :phono-l-bounces@ oldcrank .org] On Behalf Of zonophone2006@ aol .com Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:44 AM To: phono-l@ oldcrank .org Subject: [Phono-L] re mirek and his prices hello all i had planned on getting some parts from mirek be careful he raised his prices over his old catalog and is greedy on shipping as well this is our correspondence hopefully he will have the rest of his inventory for the rest of his life be careful all rob NO PROBLEM YOUR GREED ON SHIPPING TURNED ME OFF] I DIDNT MIND THE PRICES GOING UP BUT I AM SURE I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO SAID THIS TO YOU HAVE A GREAT LIFE rob -Original Message- From: Miroslav Stehlik m. stehlik @ sentex .ca To: Zonophone2006@ aol .com Sent: Wed, Apr 28, 2010 10:38 am Subject: Re: Fw : good morning Hi Rob, Thank you for taking my time for nothing! Please, do not order from me any more. Your los ! Happy collecting! Mirek - Original Message - From: Zonophone2006@ aol .com To: m. stehlik @ sentex .ca Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 3:49 AM Subject: Re: Fw : good morning hi mirek i have been thinking it over and will pass on the order i cant get out during the day for the m.o. thank you rob In a message dated 4/28/2010 1:13:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, m. stehlik @ sentex .ca writes: Hi, Are you still interested? I sold two Zonos today! I will be in Europe most of May, leaving next Monday Mirek - Original Message - From: Miroslav Stehlik To: Zonophone2006@ aol .com Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 5:11 PM Subject: Re: good morning Hi, You
Re: [Phono-L] Another Stanton's update
hi ken look to steve farmer he does a great job In a message dated 4/30/2010 11:10:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, kb...@charter.net writes: As expected, the recent Stanton's auction was an exciting experience. There were many high end machines there that brought a wide variety of bidding excitement. The Edison Idelia was very impressive but brought only $20K when the presale expectations were much higher. The Edison Class M in the upright cabinet only went for a little over $10K. Music boxes were a bit soft on prices. The very nice Reginaphone went for around $4K. Many of the front mount Victors were in the $1,200 to a high of around $2,500 for the MS. If anyone has a chance to take in an auction at Stanton's, I would highly recommend it. I ended up with three more Victors for my collection along with a nice record cabinet, Edison Standard, Babson Brothers flowered cylinder horn, and many small items. One of the Victors was a Rigid Arm R. The arm has been resoldered where it attaches to the piece in the back bracket and the finish has been buffed off almost completely. The anodizing on the back bracket is weak but visible. My question is, Does anyone know anyone that restores the anodized finish on parts? Is it hard to do yourself? Thanks in advance for any advice. Ken Brekke ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Vitaphone Tone Arm
your reproductions are very nice i got a few from you with the machine at union thanks rob In a message dated 4/30/2010 11:14:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, kb...@charter.net writes: I see that there is some interest in Vitaphones here lately. If anyone is interested, I have some reprints of original Vitaphone catalogs, brochures, and factory photos. Contact me off list at kb...@charter.net if anyone would like copies. Thanks, Ken Brekke -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Keith Wright Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 5:42 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Vitaphone Tone Arm Thanks for offer Greg. If you email them to the address below, I will post them on the Vitaphone page. Cheers, Keith ke...@keithwright.ca From: gbogan...@charter.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 23:15:10 -0400 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Vitaphone Tone Arm [snip] I can't remember if Phono-L has a photo hosting page. I can furnish photos of the model 60 if someone can advise where to post them. Greg Bogantz _ Hotmail Messenger. Get them on your phone now. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9724463 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Vitaphone Tone Arm
hi ken i compared it to one of howards and its the same machine hope all is well rob In a message dated 5/1/2010 8:45:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, kb...@charter.net writes: Rob, The Vitaphone was surely an interesting machine. Did you ever determine if the one you got from me was a prototype of some sort? Ken -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of zonophone2...@aol.com Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 5:58 AM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Vitaphone Tone Arm your reproductions are very nice i got a few from you with the machine at union thanks rob In a message dated 4/30/2010 11:14:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, kb...@charter.net writes: I see that there is some interest in Vitaphones here lately. If anyone is interested, I have some reprints of original Vitaphone catalogs, brochures, and factory photos. Contact me off list at kb...@charter.net if anyone would like copies. Thanks, Ken Brekke -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Keith Wright Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 5:42 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Vitaphone Tone Arm Thanks for offer Greg. If you email them to the address below, I will post them on the Vitaphone page. Cheers, Keith ke...@keithwright.ca From: gbogan...@charter.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 23:15:10 -0400 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Vitaphone Tone Arm [snip] I can't remember if Phono-L has a photo hosting page. I can furnish photos of the model 60 if someone can advise where to post them. Greg Bogantz _ HotmailMessenger. Get them on your phone now. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9724463 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Union wish list
hi i have been several times and each time it seems like i spend at least 5k not counting the motel and plane it sure if fun and a great candy land and the donleys are great guys unfortunately i have to go to dc for my brother 60th surprise bd party that sat night oh well have fun zono In a message dated 5/26/2010 4:25:05 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, esrobe...@hotmail.com writes: Not to blow your mind or burst your bubble, but there are those among us unfortunate enough to have never been to a Union show. I've heard about them for all my adult years, but never had the money when I was available, and never available when I had the money. Maybe this will be the year! -Robert From: jnic...@fuse.net Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 22:43:55 -0400 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Union wish list Let's see, this year is the 35th annual Union phonograph show. I've only missed one, so this will be my 34th year! Hard to imagine that there might be collectors who missed the show the previous 34 years! Jim On May 25, 2010, at 10:12 PM, Ken and Brenda Brekke wrote: If you have never been to this phonograph show, I would highly recommend attending. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendarocid=PID28 326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] union
hi all i hear paul baker and kurt knauck were banned from union for setting up a new show has anyone heard of this too paul tried this five years ago i know and had to apologize to the union attendees anyone else heard this zono ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Howard Hazelcorn
hi john howard is at union this weekend but you can contact him at _mrporp...@aol.com_ (mailto:mrporp...@aol.com) rob In a message dated 6/9/2010 10:27:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, john9...@pacbell.net writes: Hello all Anyone know how to get hold of Howard Hazelcorn? I had his email address when he bought some items from me but I can't find it now. I am thinking he is my last hope of getting the linkages on this Columbia grafonola correct. This is the one where the on/off mech, the speed control and a strange looking intermediate link are not correctly set, so that none of them work. This model is the only table model made after 1924, but there were several uprights, all of which had a sort of pyramidal lid and some had two compartments on the back with doors over them. I have heard they were for storing booze during Prohibition. Any leads, as always, greatly appreciated. Thanks John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Another bargain on fleabay
yes i remember a few years ago i was at the wayne show and someone brought one up to charley hummel to appraise as i remember he was nice to the seller In a message dated 8/20/2010 7:56:50 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, edisonst...@comcast.net writes: Every now then someone will carry one of these things into a Phonograph Show to try sell to one of the Vendors, only to have their Dream s hattered when they find out the extent they or someone in the family had been taken ! Sad that it happens but seen all to often Ebay other auction outlets make it real easy ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] HELLO ALL
I JUST PICKED UP AN EDISON D STANDARD WITH THE TWO SHUT OFFS ON IT DOES ANYONE HAVE THE TOP PART THAT ATTACHES TO THE REPRODUCER ITS THE ONE THAT IS IN TIM AND GEORGES BOOK ON CONTRAPTIONS THANKS ZONO ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Repro- Let Us Not Forg. Cyl labels?
good luck i paid alot for an original several years ago a good copier should work though -Original Message- From: Dennis Back back...@yahoo.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sun, Oct 24, 2010 3:02 pm Subject: [Phono-L] Repro- Let Us Not Forg. Cyl labels? A friend of mine is looking for a repro Let Us Not Forget BA cylinder top label. I can't remember who was doing these. Anyone here with a better memory than mine? :-) Thanks, Dennis ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] MBSI ARTICLE
HI ALL There is a good article by larry karp in the new mbsi journal on the chocolate records and the machine good reference to to renee if anyone else is a member zono ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Edison ALVA Phonograqph-offers invited
wow gary are you really downsizing i am impressed now to make more room for blue amberols rob In a message dated 11/4/2010 6:28:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ambe...@cox.net writes: Hello fellow phonoholics, I have decided to downsize my collection and I am starting with this wonderful machine.The ALVA is in excellent condition. I will be accepting offers via e-mail, I will not quote an asking price. I will accept phone calls with questions at 401-245-6014. I can e-mail photos upon request from ambe...@cox.net Machine Details: Model-Edison ALVA Phonograph Serial No. 71732 Horn-Original Oak Music Master Model O reproducer Very early machine Early 2 post Early electric motor Wiring updated Considerations: I will accept offers until Friday, November 12 at 12:00 am. Offers to be for purchase of machine, crane, and horn only, other details will be worked out later with regards to shipping, insurance, delivery, or pickup. Payment deposit of $2000.00 required after deal is consummated. Balance to be paid by agreed arrangements, only NO PAYPAL. Seller has the right to reject any and all offers. May the best offer win, Thanks very much, Gary Bernstein Barrington, R.I. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Vandalism
HI ALL I KNOW EDISON PUT THE SERIAL NUMBER UNDER THE IDELIA NAME PLATE GLAD TO KNOW ITS UNDER ALL -Original Message- From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com To: Phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Mon, Nov 8, 2010 9:45 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Vandalism Each Edison reproducer has its own serial number. The B D CHK and the small tops shared serial numbers, the R and S shared serial numbers, the O and N shared serial numbers. The N-56 can be found with both RS and ON serial numbers. The DD reproducers all have serial numbers, they started out with just numbers and ran through F. I saw a home on eBay with the serial number drilled off, I wonder if they knew the serial number is also under the ID plate? Edison DD reproducers have letters before the serial numbers some are codes: On the regular reproducer Edison started out with numbers and worked his way up and then started over with A and he got clear up to the letter F. On the regular DD you will note numbers A to F on the standard DD reproducer. With the DD reproducers the letter designations appear to have been changed when he made changes or improvements to the reproducers. Except for in the A series when the when the dome of the cup was made thicker resulting in about a 2 oz. weight increase and the elimination of the inner sleeve these changes are not readily noticeable visually, but the later ones have better sound. NS after the serial number is an Edisonic 7960 NS is an example of this. NS after the serial number beginning with letter is a Converted Edisonic F88690 NS is an example of this. You could trade in a regular reproducer with $6.75 and save $12.75 on an Edisonic that normally cost $19.50; Edison then modified the head with a larger limit loop and installed the heavy weight and thicker diaphragm on it. The standard diaphragm varies between .009 and .011; the Edisonic is more consistent around .0125. The cheap yellow notebook paper is .003, common white paper is .005. LG is long play LonG EM is one with Duncan stop Electric Model LD is the Dance Loud Dance NS stands for New Standard. Each phonograph and reproducer had a serial number, when the model O came out it was two days wages and Edison was serious about keeping track and control of his products mainly to protect his patents. With regards to DD serial numbers, 947, a copper oxidized is the earliest serial number I have seen, F80885 in the gun metal or antique finish is the latest and it was converted to an Edisonic so the serial number is F80885 NS. I have seen three Dance reproducers that were converted to the New Standard they have serial numbers like LD 9838 NS, LD 9476 NS, and did not have the small spring or the cross bar it was connected to above the reproducer’s cup. I have seen two with the Duncan stop that have been converted with serial numbers like EM 8497 NS. Do you have the Serial numbers or some other identifying marks on those items that were stolen. So if they show up on Craigslist or Ebay, we can trap those the sleazy Crooks that made off with the Reproducers ?? ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] (no subject)
HI ALL I THINK CHARLEY IS BACK IN BUSINESS HE HAD ADVERTISED IN THE GROOVE ABOUT THAT I BELIEVE -Original Message- From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Wed, Nov 10, 2010 11:02 pm Subject: [Phono-L] (no subject) Does anyone have any spare parts for a dancing rastus or just the top parts with chickens, boxers, etc. ? Also, since Charlie Weatherbee quit making repros, does anyone have patterns for them? Curt ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Original or restored?
interesting i have an idelia but my concert/opera is my work horse it has the best sound of all when i play some of the hot 5000 clylinders if we were talking a chipendale chair i would be more concerned with restoration but most of these phonographs were mass produced for consumption and have a lot of wear i do not like the super gloss look but many restorations can closely approximate what left the factory and if you are honest when you sell it it should not matter just a few thoughts zono In a message dated 11/13/2010 3:43:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, steve_nor...@msn.com writes: Ron said it very well. I would favor a mint machine over a restored one but I would not discriminate over a restored machine as that is the only way most people can own a mint looking machine. I would also love to have a 1795 silver dollar in uncirculated condition, but I had to settle for one with a hole that was filled in that was in average condition. I recently got a gold Exhibition in the deluxe hinged box, the mildew smell was horrible. I sprayed the inside with Lysol and I will have to treat it once more to get rid of the smell. Some people would likely be upset I got rid of the original mildew, but if you cannot enjoy what you have why collect? I cringe when someone cleans $20,000 of the value of an Idelia by polishing the copper oxidation off, but some people cringe when you restore an all brass horn to original look. Most people would prefer mint machines, but the reality is if you want to enjoy a machine that looks perfect it will most likely be restored. The only two machines that I have that are excellent is my VV-IV and my VV-VI that came in an aftermarked console which protected it. My Triumph E is one I had restored. Someone varnished over the whole thing and ruined the case, made the pin striping run, and the machine was in excellent shape until someone ruined it. I had the bedplate refinished, now it looks better than new. I enjoy the machine because it looks so nice, when I want to play records I go to my crappy looking A in a B case Triumph. I have seen people with machines that look new, unfortunately there are not enought to go around. One year a radio collector brought a Triumph A with a wooden horn and an iron and brass O to show it to people. The finish was so alligatored it acutally felt like the reptile when you touched it. The O was rusty and when I told the guy it would restore nicely he was horrified and told me he did not buy it to listen to or restore, he liked to keep things just as he found them. Steve I agree with Steve. It depends on condition and the machine itself. It can be subjective and dependent on the collector or individual as well. Do you want a common but pristine original Vic -IV, for example, or would you rather have a refurbished and refinished Edison Opera brought back to showroom beauty? Also rarity might be a consideration. Would someone wait for a near original Edison Idealia or take one that was redone? It depends...cost, rarity, the collector themselves are only a few of the considerations. I think most of us would take the rarest machine in the most original condition at the lowest cost (speaking in general terms). Cost, especially in todays economy may be a key determiner in the utlimate decision made. Ron ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Seller's Name was/ Frankenreproducer alert
hi all believe it or not i still run into eddie gibson here in florida still selling phonograph and trying to do repairs -Original Message- From: clockworkhome clockworkh...@aol.com To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sat, Dec 4, 2010 3:21 pm Subject: [Phono-L] Seller's Name was/ Frankenreproducer alert Greetings Dave: I actually don't know the Pittsburgh Phonograph Pirate's name. Whenever I have tried gently to enlighten him he responds with nasty responses telling me I don't know what I am talking about. Luckily he has never had anything I need for my collection. When I started collecting in the early 1960's there were more crooks around. Today we are far more educated thanks to MAPS, CAPS, Phono-L, etc., and that makes it much more difficult to con us. Regards to all, Al ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org hi ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Seller's Name was/ Frankenreproducer alert
yes al i even have the book i bought from you on cylinder phonos years ago that you signed you are great in more than phonos i used to correspond with george frow too and he was very informative also great guys to get information when i was green in phonos thanks to you both rob -Original Message- From: Jim Nichol jnic...@fuse.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:42 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Seller's Name was/ Frankenreproducer alert Al, you're too modest! Your book on Edison cylinder phonographs is what ORIGINALLY started saving us from crooks and ignorant sellers. Jim On Dec 4, 2010, at 3:17 PM, clockworkh...@aol.com wrote: Greetings Dave: I actually don't know the Pittsburgh Phonograph Pirate's name. Whenever I have tried gently to enlighten him he responds with nasty responses telling me I don't know what I am talking about. Luckily he has never had anything I need for my collection. When I started collecting in the early 1960's there were more crooks around. Today we are far more educated thanks to MAPS, CAPS, Phono-L, etc., and that makes it much more difficult to con us. Regards to all, Al ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Seller's Name was/ Frankenreproducer alert
SO TRUE i once bought a rare coin that was a fake and ebay and paypal would do nothing about it its cavet emptor -Original Message- From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com To: Phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Mon, Dec 6, 2010 6:18 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Seller's Name was/ Frankenreproducer alert Thanks, I did not know that. From: a...@popyrus.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 14:46:28 -0700 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Seller's Name was/ Frankenreproducer alert Hi Steve ~ The way eBay works, you can't leave a negative feedback AND get reimbursed on a bad purchase by eBay's Buyer Protection. The unsatisfactory transaction is technically cancelled as though it never happened to begin with. Even the posting below acknowledges (despite the positives) that the item could have been packed better, had additional (incorrectly mounted?) hardware, and he agrees that the seller was rude. And yet, he probably left a positive feedback. I think there must be dozens, if not hundreds of dissatisfied buyers who would rather be made whole again financially on their misrepresented/badly packed/damaged/modified or incomplete purchase, than take a loss and retain the ability to leave negative feedback on this seller, and thus warn others away from a potentially miserable experience. I'm ordinarily very careful about saying anything publicly about anyone that isn't positive (if you can't say something nice...), but based on personal experience, both my own and that of my friend and customer, I can only conclude that this seller is dangerous. He certainly doesn't appear to make any effort to play by the same rules. That's my take on it. Andy On Dec 6, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Steven Medved wrote: If you look at his ratings they are actually quite good. Hi all! I'll be be honest and say I have dealt with this individual in the past. I guess I'll provide a contrarian view to those experiences posted thus far. I purchased an Edison machine from him and it was packed relatively well. It could have been better, but all was safe. The machine was exactly as stated, but came with some extra mounting screws and springs to mount the motor to the motor board, so I'm sure someone got screwed (pun intended). I must agree that he was somehat a rude individual, but not so much that it really bothered me as he shipped very fast and everything was actually great! I just thought I'd provide another view of just my experience. I would not necessaril recommend him, but my transcation ended well thankfully after reading these posts. I do not recall his name, but I looked his phone number up and found the following information for those who wish to dig deeper. Antique Edison (412) 257-8926 301 Murray Ave Bridgeville, PA 15017 antiquedi...@aol.com ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] New Amberola Graphic
hi all i know he still lives in st johnsbury vermont i was up there for a auction with a close friend of his i will see if i can get a phone number for him from a friend of his zono In a message dated 12/23/2010 3:07:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ba...@barrykasindorf.com writes: OK, Anyone know how to contact him? He has seemed hard to reach in the past. -Barry On 12/23/2010 3:05 PM, john9...@pacbell.net wrote: I'd appreciate the effort, Barry! Just make sure Martin doesn't object! Thanks John --Original Message-- From: Barry Kasindorf Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org To: Antique Phonograph List ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] New Amberola Graphic Sent: Dec 23, 2010 11:55 AM Hi, I subscribed to this a long time ago and have most of the issues Martin printed. I am not sure if he will ever make anymore but I assume not. I can scan them and make them available online if there is any interest. It will take a while to locate them and I may need a few fills. -Barry ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Fwd: FW: Brian Rust 1922-2011
this is a sad thing Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 08:52:46 -0500 Subject: Brian Rust 1922-2011 From: jazzpr...@earthlink.net To: jazzpr...@earthlink.net We are saddened to have to inform visitors to the site, that Brian Rust died peacefully in his sleep, on January 5th. His loss is devastating to those who knew him as a true and constant friend, for many years. The world of discography and the study of early jazz history has changed completely, by his death. He leaves behind his wife of six decades, Mary; daughters Angela and Pamela; and son, Victor; plus grandchildren. As details of funeral arrangements and addresses to which condolences may be sent become available, we will update this bulletin. _http://rustbooks.com./_ (http://rustbooks.com./) = -- ATTACHMENT -- **An Attachment Was Scrubbed** Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 12257 bytes URL: http://oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20110108/a1fd2e13/attachment.jpe ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Victor R
hi all and steve farmer does a great job i have had him work on an idelia for me In a message dated 1/7/2011 6:00:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, appywan...@hotmail.com writes: Steve Farmer can replicate that finish. From: kb...@charter.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 16:42:55 -0600 Subject: [Phono-L] Victor R Jeff, The orange based stripper works well. Just try it in a small area under the turntable first. It's good to hear that there are still some good finds out there. The tone arm on my Victor Rigid arm R has been buffed by a previous owner that took off most of the nice oxidized finish. The finish behind the swing arm and on the reproducer is fine. My question for everyone on Phono-L is: Is it hard to redo the oxidized finish on a part like this? Or, is there someone that can be recommended to do this type of work? Thanks, Ken B. Wisconsin ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Victor P (WAS-Salvaging Spray Painted Victor-R)
wow neuman miller now that is a name i have not heard in a long time now what about karl frick that show how long some of us have had this sickness lol In a message dated 1/7/2011 10:18:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, back...@yahoo.com writes: While you all are talking about the bronze, oxidized Victor R...it brings back a fond memory of mine. My first front mount was a Victor P that I purchased in 1973. I really knew nothing about phonographs back then. I DID have sense enough to know that the Thorens reproducer was most likely a replacement part. Of course I later got a long necked Exhibition from Neuman Miller. As for the hardware, the horn support and motor bedplate was a dull or dirty grey/silver. It looked like spray paint. I left it as it was. Some years later...maybe in the 1980's I learned that the Victor P's (and R's) had the oxidized bronze, tiger finish. I tried a little paint remover and WALLA! I had a tiger striped, bronze oxidized Victor P after all! A belated, but sincere Happy New Year to all, Dennis ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?)
hi all we have had that problem here a lot in florida the police recommend you meet at the police dept to do your exchange if you buy from craigs list In a message dated 1/14/2011 9:08:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, vinyl.visi...@live.com writes: Beware of Craigslist also... the old saying If it sounds too good to be true... You might find a bargain, but be careful. On that note, a collector from NC just found a Regina-Phone for $1,200, so you never know. Also, if you list on Craigslist - NEVER meet someone at your house - if you are going to meet, go to McDonald's or a public place. A friend of mine had a number of high end phonographs stolen from his home because of that. Fortunately, he got the NC SBI involved and they recovered all but one, just a day before they were leaving the country. From: steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:05:43 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) Before eBay hid the buyers ID I bid on an Alva to see the final price and get photos. A man wrote and told me he had a number of Alvas in stock and would be happy to sell me one for $1500. Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 12:20:25 -0800 From: hexaph...@sbcglobal.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) I suspect the motor doesn't exist, thus I'd never get it. He keeps avoiding my request for a picture to validate whether it is a correct one. It seems there are scammers scouring the various boards on the net including phonograph forums. I prefer to keep to those I am familar with. Ron --- On Fri, 1/14/11, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote: From: Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 1:49 PM Did you ever get the motor? Is it different from the usual spring motors for Victors of that period? Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of hexaph...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 1:56 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) Hi all. On one of the phonograph forums I had a Wanted notice indicating I was looking for a Victrola Orthophonic 8-9 motor. I received a response from a Brian Kidd. His email is bra...@blumail.org . This one has all the red flags waving. He keeps spelling his own name incorrectly for one. He is located in Italy and wants a money gram or western union payment and his pricing is way out of line i.e. not even reasonable. He wanted 690 euro or more than $900 for a motor of which, of course, he had in stock. Playing along, I asked for pictures. None have been provided (surprise). Anyone else familar with this individual? I would assume he is responding to other people looking for items. Just for a final amusement, I sent him an email stating I would most certainly send a western union for the full amount once I received the product. I am waiting for my reply. Beware. Ron ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Theodore Roosevelt cylinder
hi all tell me about it i have three copies of warsaw concerto lol its still all good In a message dated 1/17/2011 2:56:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, vinyl.visi...@live.com writes: The same thing happened with my collection of Vogue Picture Records, which at the time, were as scarce as hen's teeth. For years, I spent my spare time scrounging through piles of worthless records looking for one or hours on the phone trying to find a collector that might part with a duplicate. And then, when I found one, I had to pay whatever the person wanted because you just never found them. Then along comes eBay - and now it's no harder than doing a search and sniping one at a great price and discovering that no one in America ever threw them away. That's the market of supply and demand, as well as a new generation of people who inherited a collection from their dad or grandfather and would rather have a new loud muffler on their Japanese car or a stereo to blow the body panels off... Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:41:08 -0800 From: smst...@gmail.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Theodore Roosevelt cylinder It's the economy, it's the internet. I own many records and cylinders. Many very rare. Why own a record? As a digital file it as it takes up so little space. And most of the time free or close to free. Not much disposable income out there. On the other hand if I decide to collect something different it is always at the top of the market, regardless of the economy..[?] Mike oldcranky On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:27 AM, john robles john9...@pacbell.net wrote: Hello all Well, after I had offered it here with no takers, I had listed my Theodore Roosevelt cylinder on eBay, It used to be that they went for around $100, and it only got up to $66. What's your opinion, is this cylinder (Social and Industrial Justice) just that common, or is it the economy, or what? Just wondering. I can seem to let it go for less than $85 so I think I'll keep it. John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] MG
the tr2 was great and could out run the mg great competition years ago In a message dated 1/21/2011 10:26:40 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, smst...@gmail.com writes: I owned a TR 2. Powered with a great Massy Ferguson engine. A tractor powered sports car. Gotta love the English. Oldcranky On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 1:58 AM, zonophone2...@aol.com wrote: now mine was a tr 2 a lot lot more power and the same fun stuff In a message dated 1/20/2011 6:14:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, rich-m...@octoxol.com writes: Don't forget the ultra scarce TB either. Those are 19 wire wheels and used 4.50/5.00x19 tires. On 01/20/2011 05:06 PM, Vinyl Visions wrote: an MG-TD, my ultimate dream car I love them too, but a TA, TC or TF would definitely fill the bill. I actually think I like the built in headlights of the TF better and what about the large wire wheels of the TA and TC? Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:48:43 -0800 From: majesticrec...@snet.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New Phonogram Well, if you're going to drag in the MG jokes... Q. Why do people in England drink their beer warm? A. Because their refrigerators are powered by Lucas. Boy, would I love to have an MG-TD, my ultimate dream car. Perhaps after I find that large collection of E condition Robert Johnson Vocalions, Son House Paramounts, etc. Glenn From: Richrich-m...@octoxol.com To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thu, January 20, 2011 2:24:59 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New Phonogram If there is no puddle of oil under the machine then it is out of oil and you need to add some. 1938 MG-TA leaked like a sieve. On 01/20/2011 01:08 PM, Greg Bogantz wrote: Well, the English must have eventually figgered it out. As a biker and with a brother who still owns a 1970 Norton Commando, I know what you're saying. When I was in the engineering lab at RCA Records, we purchased from England an EMI record testing machine that contained a Garrard 401 turntable, sometime in the late 1970s. I took the tester apart to check on something (which wasn't working, of course) and just busted out laughing when I spied a puddle of oil underneath the platter bearing, pooled on the bottom pan of the cabinet. Yep, it's English all right. I called all my biker buddies over to have a look at it, and we all had a good laugh over it. Greg Bogantz - Original Message - From: William Zucca rochr...@gmail.com To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New Phonogram Did you hear the one about why there was never a successful phonograph industry in England? (answer:) Because they couldn't figure out how to make the machines break down and start leaking oil every week. Ha Ha, GrnMountain Bill On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 12:32 PM,john9...@pacbell.net wrote: Did you hear about the dyslexic anorexic? She never thought she was fat enough. -Original Message- From: Tom Jordantom...@msn.com Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:25:25 To: 'Antique Phonograph List'phono-l@oldcrank.org Reply-To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New Phonogram I can't help it! :0) Did you hear about the dyslexic atheist? He laid awake at night wondering Is there a dog? -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Peter Fraser Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 11:00 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New Phonogram Dog is my copilot! Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Jan 20, 2011, at 2:48 AM, john roblesjohn9...@pacbell.net wrote: No rush..my god passed away and left me with $1600 in vet bills...my phono purchases have sort of taken a downturn for the moment... Thanks John --- On Wed, 1/19/11, D P Ingramdar...@ingram.fi wrote: From: D P Ingramdar...@ingram.fi Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New Phonogram To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 9:28 PM Hi. Still looking. Not found any (duplicates yet) but am sorting out our duplicate holdings so found a lot more other stuff (phono, gram, radio ) :) Best, Darren ¦ D P Ingram ¦ Ab Ingram Oy ¦ ¦ darren at ingram.fi ¦ www.ingram.fi ¦ ¦ ¦ MUSIC LIBRARY FINLAND - www.musiclibrary.fi ¦ ¦ +358 6 781 0275 (FIN) ¦ extn 8001 ¦ On 31 dec 2010, at 19.05, john robles wrote: Thank you Darren, no hurry. John
Re: [Phono-L] MG
the tr 2 and 3 mostly differed in the grill work and the doors and the 3 engine was 10 more horse power and i think syncromesh tranny In a message dated 1/21/2011 11:00:46 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, lhera...@bu.edu writes: I have the fondest memories of my '58 TR3, a car I owned from '68-70. I have a '73 TR-6 now but still miss the 3. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Rich Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 10:53 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] MG They were interesting engines. 4 cyl tractor engine converted to OHV. IIRC the TR-3 was a slightly larger version of a modified tractor motor. And, 3 main bearings in a 5500 rpm engine was a real stroke of brilliant engineering. They were real fun cars though. You only got damp in a rainstorm with the top down as long as you were driving 25 to 30mph, more than that and the back of your head and the inside of the windshield got wet. Black leather seats and sun On 01/21/2011 09:26 AM, Mike Stitt wrote: I owned a TR 2. Powered with a great Massy Ferguson engine. A tractor powered sports car. Gotta love the English. Oldcranky On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 1:58 AM,zonophone2...@aol.com wrote: now mine was a tr 2 a lot lot more power and the same fun stuff In a message dated 1/20/2011 6:14:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, rich-m...@octoxol.com writes: Don't forget the ultra scarce TB either. Those are 19 wire wheels and used 4.50/5.00x19 tires. On 01/20/2011 05:06 PM, Vinyl Visions wrote: an MG-TD, my ultimate dream car I love them too, but a TA, TC or TF would definitely fill the bill. I actually think I like the built in headlights of the TF better and what about the large wire wheels of the TA and TC? Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:48:43 -0800 From: majesticrec...@snet.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New Phonogram Well, if you're going to drag in the MG jokes... Q. Why do people in England drink their beer warm? A. Because their refrigerators are powered by Lucas. Boy, would I love to have an MG-TD, my ultimate dream car. Perhaps after I find that large collection of E condition Robert Johnson Vocalions, Son House Paramounts, etc. Glenn From: Richrich-m...@octoxol.com To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thu, January 20, 2011 2:24:59 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New Phonogram If there is no puddle of oil under the machine then it is out of oil and you need to add some. 1938 MG-TA leaked like a sieve. On 01/20/2011 01:08 PM, Greg Bogantz wrote: Well, the English must have eventually figgered it out. As a biker and with a brother who still owns a 1970 Norton Commando, I know what you're saying. When I was in the engineering lab at RCA Records, we purchased from England an EMI record testing machine that contained a Garrard 401 turntable, sometime in the late 1970s. I took the tester apart to check on something (which wasn't working, of course) and just busted out laughing when I spied a puddle of oil underneath the platter bearing, pooled on the bottom pan of the cabinet. Yep, it's English all right. I called all my biker buddies over to have a look at it, and we all had a good laugh over it. Greg Bogantz - Original Message - From: William Zucca rochr...@gmail.com To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New Phonogram Did you hear the one about why there was never a successful phonograph industry in England? (answer:) Because they couldn't figure out how to make the machines break down and start leaking oil every week. Ha Ha, GrnMountain Bill On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 12:32 PM,john9...@pacbell.net wrote: Did you hear about the dyslexic anorexic? She never thought she was fat enough. -Original Message- From: Tom Jordantom...@msn.com Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:25:25 To: 'Antique Phonograph List'phono-l@oldcrank.org Reply-To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New Phonogram I can't help it! :0) Did you hear about the dyslexic atheist? He laid awake at night wondering Is there a dog? -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Peter Fraser Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 11:00 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New Phonogram Dog is my copilot! Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Jan 20, 2011, at 2:48 AM, john roblesjohn9...@pacbell.net wrote: No rush..my god passed away and
Re: [Phono-L] Porsche 356
jerry the 356 is legendary what a car In a message dated 1/22/2011 12:57:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, deedeebl...@yahoo.com writes: I was going to let this British car stuff run its course but I can't help myself. You have not driven a car until you've experienced a Porsche 356. The car begged to be driven. When it turned 90,000 miles we drove it 90 mph and it wanted to go faster. It started every time and you didn't need to keep AAA on the speed dial. It did mark its spot in the garage but that was a small price to pay. Jerry Blais ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] florida show
hi all just got home from the florida show lots of great bargains and lots of sales for me there was a victor model 230 that vtla mark brought that was very nice i got a vtla second model from ron haring for a very good price a mahogany home with a repeater showed up also for a very good price along with a victor c for 3250 lots of great machines and people anyone else have any comments zono ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] florida show
HI NO I JUST SAW IT I DID NOT ASK ROB -Original Message- From: Andrew Baron a...@popyrus.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sun, Jan 23, 2011 5:00 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] florida show Do you recall what the mahogany Home with repeater was priced at? Just curious. Andy Baron On Jan 23, 2011, at 3:18 AM, zonophone2...@aol.com wrote: hi all just got home from the florida show lots of great bargains and lots of sales for me there was a victor model 230 that vtla mark brought that was very nice i got a vtla second model from ron haring for a very good price a mahogany home with a repeater showed up also for a very good price along with a victor c for 3250 lots of great machines and people anyone else have any comments zono ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Porsche 356
HEY JOE THAT IS TRUE I HAD A 1958 CORVETTE IN 69 NOW A 2006 WHAT TECHNOLOGICAL DIFFERENCES BUT BOTH FUN -Original Message- From: Joe Filer filerph...@bellsouth.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sun, Jan 23, 2011 5:36 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Porsche 356 Wait a minute, I have a 1966 Corvette. I have owned 4 Porsches, 5 MG's, 1 Triumph, 1 Rabbit. I can tell you none of them matches the excitement of a vintage Corvette. OK, the Rabbit was a pickup truck and shouldn't count. This is my 6th Corvette, and man is it fun. Joe Filer From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sun, January 23, 2011 5:02:35 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Porsche 356 It's starting to look to me like all phonograph collectors have Porsches, Triumphs and MGs...maybe we need to start Porsche-L?? :-) John --- On Sun, 1/23/11, Mike Stitt smst...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mike Stitt smst...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Porsche 356 To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Sunday, January 23, 2011, 9:30 AM Sooo Jerry, did you sell the 356 and keep the VW diesel rabbit? Inquiring minds want to know. Mike Oldcranky On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Jan and Harold dynawh...@shaw.ca wrote: I couldn't agree with you more Jerry. My ex had one. I loved driving that car. Some people called it a glorified VW, but it had power galore! There were a number of times that guys came over and opened the car door for me when I drove that carI knew it wasn't me because it never happened once when I drove the old Toyota :) Jan Victoria BC On 2011-01-21, at 9:57 PM, DeeDee Blais wrote: I was going to let this British car stuff run its course but I can't help myself. You have not driven a car until you've experienced a Porsche 356. The car begged to be driven. When it turned 90,000 miles we drove it 90 mph and it wanted to go faster. It started every time and you didn't need to keep AAA on the speed dial. It did mark its spot in the garage but that was a small price to pay. Jerry Blais ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] MG
NOW ALL WE HAD A LOCAL SINGER HERE A FRIEND OF BOB DYLAN WHO WROTE I WILL PUT A BAR IN MY CAR AND DRIVE MYSELF TO DRINK ERIC VAN SCHMIDT -Original Message- From: Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sun, Jan 23, 2011 10:52 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] MG It hurts nothing as it is clearly marked as to subject. Some people need to lighten up a bit. On 01/23/2011 09:45 PM, Ron L'Herault wrote: sorry. It really should have been taken off-list. At least there are lots of car-related records although I don't know of any that mention British sports cars. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of tuban...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 10:04 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] MG OK boys, I'm outa here. If you can't keep the rant kinda phono related I don't need to wade thru all the CAR talk. They do have forums for that. Don ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph
now the book by frow and al shows a g anyone seen a g In a message dated 1/26/2011 11:41:34 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, phonofo...@aol.com writes: The Standard F was the last of the Standard series to be produced so they will command more money, but $6100.00? I do recall a Standard F was sold by a local auction house in North Carolina in May 2009 for $900 or so not too far from where the ebay Standard F was sold. The standard F at auction was very dirty, dark and it came with the original Model S reproducer. I can't say this is the same machine. The one on ebay came with a model H and not the S it was supposed to come with. So it appears along the way the reproducer and carriage maybe were switched out. -Original Message- From: DanKj ediso...@verizon.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tue, Jan 25, 2011 11:46 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph Yes, I keep his listings on my Favorites list, because he always has interesting stuff with clear, numerous pics ! Eebae is great for collecting pics of things phonographic. I just need to resist the urge to bid for the heckuvvit, because too many times I've been surprised won something I didn't REALLY need (the $118 perfect Thinkpad and yet another disc 'Standard A' come to mind... ) - Original Message - From: Tim Gray timsanti...@northstate.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph Wow! At least I know it was a honest auction. I have bought a couple of nice machines from the seller. I live 30 minutes from him and picked them up. He allowed me to see some of his other machines and big radio collection. his items are always very nice and they bring better than average prices. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Florida repair persons?
WHAT KIND OF WORK I CAN PASS IT ON TO A FRIEND HERE IN SARASOTA ZONO -Original Message- From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tue, Feb 8, 2011 10:48 pm Subject: [Phono-L] Florida repair persons? Hi all I have a contact in Florida (near Clearwater and St, Petersburg) who needs some work done on a Diamond Disc phonograph, C-150 Sheraton. Anybody know anyone there?? Thanks John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Florida repair persons?
HI JOHN HE IS PROBABLY RIGHT BETTER TO SELL AS IS -Original Message- From: john9ten john9...@pacbell.net To: phonolist phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thu, Feb 10, 2011 10:55 am Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Florida repair persons? I'm not sure it is going to be worth it. One of my phono mentors thinks it probably needs a couple hundred dollars worth of work and she won't get that back from it in this economy. Thanks John -Original Message- From: zonophone2...@aol.com Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 04:00:10 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Florida repair persons? WHAT KIND OF WORK I CAN PASS IT ON TO A FRIEND HERE IN SARASOTA ZONO -Original Message- From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tue, Feb 8, 2011 10:48 pm Subject: [Phono-L] Florida repair persons? Hi all I have a contact in Florida (near Clearwater and St, Petersburg) who needs some work done on a Diamond Disc phonograph, C-150 Sheraton. Anybody know anyone there?? Thanks John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Horns For Sale *SOLD* Thanks
hi is it sold if so its ok if not i will take the victor berliner -Original Message- From: Wayne way...@shaw.ca To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thu, Feb 10, 2011 6:41 pm Subject: [Phono-L] Horns For Sale *SOLD* Thanks ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Phonos for sale
hi don very nice price on the 240 i love mine -Original Message- From: john9ten john9...@pacbell.net To: phonolist phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Fri, Feb 11, 2011 4:38 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phonos for sale I'll take the Reginaphone if you give me 4 years to pay. --Original Message-- From: Don Henry Kelly Peters Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org To: phonolist ReplyTo: phonolist Subject: [Phono-L] Phonos for sale Sent: Feb 11, 2011 1:09 PM Hi All: A few items going on the chopping block: Victor VI w/wood horn $4900; Edison Triumph w/wood cygnet $2700; rare Columbia paneled wood horn, needs work, $500; Zonophone Grand Opera rear mount with Green horn, $1800, Edison Spring Motor $2800, Early Edison Home w/ banner lid, $500, Reginaphone Model 240 with Lionsheads, restored $8200. Thanks. Don Henry ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] BLACK PATTI RECORDS
HI IS ANYONE FRAMILIAR WITH BLACK PATTI RECORDS AND THE RELATIVE VALUE THANKS ZONO ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] victrola number 4 a reproducer
on another note anyone know much about this reproducer other than it came out late 20s ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Black Patti record
well if you don't want it send it to florida zono In a message dated 2/25/2011 6:01:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, deedeebl...@yahoo.com writes: Mike, Didn't we find a Black Patti record in Corvallis at a garage sale on our way to a anniversary party for Dottie Ira? Jerry ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] BLACK PATTI RECORDS
my bp record is the one the minister giving a sermon i wish it was the rarer blues one In a message dated 2/25/2011 11:45:10 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, smst...@gmail.com writes: I've been looking for on over 20 years. I have many scarce records and labels, from 2 Decca's to a 7' paper label American Vitaphone. No BP tho'. Mike On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 6:39 AM, phonofo...@aol.com wrote: These recorded are valuable espeically the race recordings. There were some common of the day recordings recorded on the Black Patti, such as Dalhart, that are of lesser value than the race records. A few years back one of the 78RPM journals did a story on all the Black Patti records. -Original Message- From: Glenn Longwell majesticrec...@snet.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:46 am Subject: Re: [Phono-L] BLACK PATTI RECORDS Yes, they are very common and not valuable at all. Please send to me. Ok, just kidding. Black Patti was pressed by Starr Piano (Gennett) for Chicago ecord Company, which was started by Mayo Williams. It was a race record abel. It only existed for about 6 months in 1927 and had only 54 releases. uantities were small so the records are fairly rare and valuable. lenn rom: zonophone2...@aol.com zonophone2...@aol.com o: phono-l@oldcrank.org ent: Fri, February 25, 2011 5:22:35 AM ubject: [Phono-L] BLACK PATTI RECORDS HI S ANYONE FRAMILIAR WITH BLACK PATTI RECORDS AND THE RELATIVE VALUE HANKS ONO __ hono-L mailing list ttp://phono-l.oldcrank.org __ hono-L mailing list ttp://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Black Patti... Black Swan
NAH ITS A GUY LOMBARDO -Original Message- From: DeeDee Blais deedeebl...@yahoo.com To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:31 am Subject: [Phono-L] Black Patti... Black Swan That's right... you snatched a Black Swan out of my hands and gave me a Glen Miller saying I'd enjoy it more. Jerry ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Black Patti... Black Swan
ahhh yes the old song enjoy yourself In a message dated 2/28/2011 10:55:05 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, phonofo...@aol.com writes: I think the early Guy Lombardo's on the Okeh label from the late 1920s are not half bad actually. Same goes with Lawrence Welk from the late 1920s. -Original Message- From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com To: Phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Mon, Feb 28, 2011 10:37 am Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Black Patti... Black Swan hose are impossible to enjoy no matter what the song. ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4qcCIH0yg0 NAH ITS A GUY LOMBARDO That's right... you snatched a Black Swan out of my hands and gave me a Glen Miller saying I'd enjoy it more. Jerry __ hono-L mailing list ttp://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Black Patti... Black Swan
jerry traded me one black swan for two black pattis as i remember lol In a message dated 2/28/2011 12:59:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, steve_nor...@msn.com writes: They are not half bad they are half good. But to take a Black Patti and a Black Swan and give Jerry a Welk and a Lombardo in exchange..that is sad. I think the early Guy Lombardo's on the Okeh label from the late 1920s are not half bad actually. Same goes with Lawrence Welk from the late 1920s. -Original Message- From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com To: Phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Mon, Feb 28, 2011 10:37 am Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Black Patti... Black Swan hose are impossible to enjoy no matter what the song. ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4qcCIH0yg0 NAH ITS A GUY LOMBARDO That's right... you snatched a Black Swan out of my hands and gave me a Glen Miller saying I'd enjoy it more. Jerry __ hono-L mailing list ttp://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Zon -O -Phone
hey allen glad somebody knows the dates hope you are doing great in the north rob In a message dated 3/31/2011 12:45:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, allena...@aol.com writes: In a message dated 3/30/2011 11:06:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tom...@msn.com writes: This is a late model Zonophone Home. These were made after Victor bought the company in 1904.* - Make that purchase Sept 1903. allen ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real?
HI STEVE I AGREE I HAVE SEVERAL COLLECTOR FRIENDS WHO HAVE ONE OFF CASES THAT WERE DONE BY OWNERS OF THE PERIOD WITH SOME VERY FANCY EMBELISHMENTS I AGREE IT MAY HURT THE PRICE BUT THEY ARE INTERESTING JUST THE SAME ZONO -Original Message- From: The Farmers g...@usfamily.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sun, Apr 10, 2011 1:00 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real? What is the purpose of continuing to beat this seller's description? While we agree that it is highly unlikely the paint was applied at the factory, the paint is good enough that a seller without vast phonograph experience could easily think it looks as old as the machine, and therefore as far as he knows was applied at the factory. It looks like this seller sells lots of purses and boots, and is probably much more knowledgeable about those items than the average phonograph expert. If I had a purse to sell on eBay I could easily make wrong assumptions about it that the purse experts would laugh at too. And, whether painted at the factory or not, it looks very nice. If I owned it, I'd keep it and display it alongside my factory-correct Gems. -- Greg Farmer - Original Message - From: bruce78...@comcast.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2011 6:53 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real? He said that as far as he knows the paint was applied at the factor, And where pray tell did he derive that knowledge from ? Me thinks very strongly, that it is a figment of his vast imagination !! - Original Message - From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com To: Phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2011 11:16:47 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real? Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 11:55:15 -0700 From: smst...@gmail.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real? Ward an interesting comment. How would the seller know that? On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Ward Sandstrom w...@bis.midco.net wrote: I contacted the seller days ago and he said that as far as he knows the paint was applied at the factory. He didn't put my question and his answer back in his auction. Ward S. - Original Message - From: Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real? Some of these enhancements were done in the early 50s, and during the depression to improve mail order saleability of used phonos. To tell what you are looking at you would have to be doing paint analysis to date it. Does not realy look Factory though. On 04/09/2011 11:23 AM, Steve Andersen wrote: I believe it was not done at the factory. Usually the factory would put special guilt on the casting, not the case. Either a jobber or an artistic owner did this. Steve On Apr 9, 2011, at 11:20 AM, Vinyl Visions wrote: I found an auction for an Edison GEM, with rose flowered horn and decorated case which matches and appears to be old... Question: did Edison ever produce a machine with a flowered case to match the horn - seller claims it to be VERY rare? eBay Item number: 230604577714 http://cgi.ebay.com/Edison-Gem-Phonograph-Rose-Flower-Horn-Case-Very-Rare_W0QQitemZ230604577714QQcategoryZ38029QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m1374QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DPI%26its%3DC%26itu%3DUCC%26otn%3D5%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D8335346353050994345 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Reproducer Artwork
HI ALL CHARLEY HUMMEL HAD ONE A FEW YEARS AGO YOU MAY ASK HIM OR TIM OR PAUL GOOD LUCK ZONO -Original Message- From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sat, Apr 16, 2011 10:01 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Reproducer Artwork Do you have a pic of your new Pathe? On the subject of Pathe - does anyone have any idea of what a Pathe advertising plaster rooster might be worth? I found one recently, but haven't been able to convince the owner to part with it... It is a display in an old store and no one knows what it is, since it's painted black. Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 12:37:39 -0700 From: john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Reproducer Artwork Hello All I thought I would post a piece of reproducer arts and crafts for you. I received a Pathephone 40 yesterday through the kindness of a Phono-L member who responded to my search for one. The reproducer label was aged and blackened, and since it is paper you can't clean it without risking loss of the image. I found a decent picture of a reproducer online, and..well, the story is written on the before and after image at this link: http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/Pathephone%20reproducer/ Thanks John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Victor Picture Records
hi all has anyone had any luck repairing early victor picture disc when they have started to delaminate thanks zono ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Ray Wilenzick E-mail Vic III wanted
hi i just saw one sold down here in florida for about 800 with a cabinet they are pretty common zono -Original Message- From: Bob Maffit maff...@bresnan.net To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Wed, Apr 20, 2011 11:03 am Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Ray Wilenzick E-mail Vic III wanted Ray: OH! Maybe you could help by way of commenting on how prices were for Vic IIIs went. Your comments about selling your collection comes as a surprise. Later Bob -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Ray Phyllis Wilenzick Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 4:37 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Ray Wilenzick E-mail Vic III wanted Bob: Sorry I can't help, as my collection was sold at Stanton's auction. Best regards, Ray Wilenzick wilenz...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: Bob Maffit maff...@bresnan.net To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 11:29 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Ray Wilenzick E-mail Vic III wanted Phono Folks: Does anyone have Ray Wilenzick's E-mail address? I had a friend over the other day and he wants me to help him with obtaining a Vic III. A horn is not necessary, as I have a couple. I thought I would contact Ray, as he helped me in the past with a Vic II Vic Vi, for which I am very pleased. Your help with his address and or any phonographs )Vic III)for sale would be appreciated. Later Bob ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.894 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3584 - Release Date: 04/19/11 12:34:00 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Little Wonder Records and Bubble Books
hi merle i am sure its a good book i just ordered it and i am nutty like you and enjoy the childrens records including the bubble books thanks for the heads up rob In a message dated 4/21/2011 8:46:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, srsel...@aol.com writes: In a message dated 4/21/2011 8:06:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, msprin...@gmail.com writes: A little bit of shameless self-promotion. The book I co-authored with Tim Brooks, Little Wonder Records and Bubble Books: An Illustrated History and Discography, has just been released by Mainspring Press. This is good news Merle. I'd love to review it for both In The Groove and Amazon.com (I'm now a top 400 reviewer there). but, unfortunately, Allan has a policy of no review copies. (I reviewed Allan's on book - Victrola in the Home - only because Kurt Nauck gave me a copy and asked that I have folks order direct from him. And Jck Palmer sent me a copy of HIS book direct) I never understood Allan's policy for reviewers with a targeted audience, but it's his choice. Sorry you aren't coming to ARSC next month. Best, Steve Ramm In The Groove/Amazon.com ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] CURIOUS MACHINE
HI ALL I JUST PICKED UP AN OLD MACHINE THAT I KNOW ITS A MARRIAGE IN TIM AND GEORGES BOOK A WORLD OF ANTIQUE PHONOGRAPHS PICTURE 5-51 THE MACHINE I PICKED UP OR CASE IS THE ONE WITH THE TRIFID FEET BY L. OTTO REICHEL DOES ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING MORE ON THESE SOME ONE HAD PUT A GARRARD CRANK PHONO IN THE CASE NEVER KNEW GARRARD HAD BEEN AROUND THAT LONG IT ALSO HAS A GILBERT REPRODUCER THAT LOOKS LIKE AND IVORY CAP ON THE FRONT OF IT THE OAK WOOD HORN IS A RIBBED ONE WITH METAL CAPS ON THE TOP OF THE RIBS NOT A COLUMBIA HORN BUT UNSURE IF IT MIGHT BE AFTER MARKET VICTOR JUST CURIOUS WHAT THE HISTORY OF ANY OF IT MIGHT BE THANKS ZONO ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] here is the strange machine from germany
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Re: [Phono-L] here is the strange machine from germany
HI ALL DOES ANYONE HAVE A MOTOR OR TONE ARM FOR THIS THE ONE IN IT IS A GARRAD FROM THE EARLY DAYS BUT NOT CORRECT FOR IT FROM TIMS BOOK THERE IS AN AD FOR THIS MACHINE AROUND 1927 BUT NO GOOD PICTURE I THOUGHT MAYBE I MIGHT TRY AND CORRECT IT AS IT HAS A GREAT HORN AND NICE CASE THANKS ALL -Original Message- From: Zonophone2006 zonophone2...@aol.com To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:41 pm Subject: [Phono-L] here is the strange machine from germany **An Attachment Was Scrubbed** Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 36781 bytes URL: http://oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20110425/cc662b84/attachment.jpe -- ATTACHMENT -- **An Attachment Was Scrubbed** Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 37301 bytes URL: http://oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20110425/cc662b84/attachment-0001.jpe ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] here is the strange machine from germany
thanks rob In a message dated 4/26/2011 9:29:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jeff...@prevea.com writes: fwitt...@aol.com ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] merle's book
hi all just got her book today great job rob ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] HI ALL
HI I JUST SAW A SHOW WITH SCOTT CORBETT ON IT YOU DID A GOOD ROLE SCOTT ON BUYING THE EDISON FROM THE STORAGE AUCTION BUYERS KUDOS ZONO ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] HI ALL
hi you are all right but who cares zono In a message dated 5/3/2011 9:21:18 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lhera...@bu.edu writes: And the 'Period .' button does not work. RonL -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of David Dazer Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:43 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] HI ALL Was that one of those auction shows? By the way, did you know that your caps lock is on? Dave --- On Tue, 5/3/11, zonophone2...@aol.com zonophone2...@aol.com wrote: From: zonophone2...@aol.com zonophone2...@aol.com Subject: [Phono-L] HI ALL To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Tuesday, May 3, 2011, 6:28 AM HI I JUST SAW A SHOW WITH SCOTT CORBETT ON IT YOU DID A GOOD ROLE SCOTT ON BUYING THE EDISON FROM THE STORAGE AUCTION BUYERS KUDOS ZONO ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] HI ALL
hi you are so right this list is great but we don't need to get caught up in things that are not as important as the great facts we share with each other on our great hobby ...AND WE DO SHOUT IT OUT WHEN ONE OF YOUR COMPATRIOTS MAKES IT TO A TV SHOW.. scott are you here tell everyone about your experience with the show. i forget the name of the show but its the one that buys units. i believe its auction hunters. regards to all zono -Original Message- From: David Dazer dda...@sbcglobal.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tue, May 3, 2011 1:13 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] HI ALL Hi Zono, I am glad to see that you have such a good sense of humor about this! Your rsponse is a classic and shows you to be a person with great wit. Happy Collecting! By the way, you never told me where you saw Scott. Dave --- On Tue, 5/3/11, zonophone2...@aol.com zonophone2...@aol.com wrote: From: zonophone2...@aol.com zonophone2...@aol.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] HI ALL To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Tuesday, May 3, 2011, 11:51 AM hi you are all right but who cares zono In a message dated 5/3/2011 9:21:18 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lhera...@bu.edu writes: And the 'Period .' button does not work. RonL -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of David Dazer Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:43 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] HI ALL Was that one of those auction shows? By the way, did you know that your caps lock is on? Dave --- On Tue, 5/3/11, zonophone2...@aol.com zonophone2...@aol.com wrote: From: zonophone2...@aol.com zonophone2...@aol.com Subject: [Phono-L] HI ALL To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Tuesday, May 3, 2011, 6:28 AM HI I JUST SAW A SHOW WITH SCOTT CORBETT ON IT YOU DID A GOOD ROLE SCOTT ON BUYING THE EDISON FROM THE STORAGE AUCTION BUYERS KUDOS ZONO ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] HI ALL
WOW what a great story thanks for sharing zono -Original Message- From: Scott and Denise Corbett sdcorb...@earthlink.net To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tue, May 3, 2011 11:13 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] HI ALL Yes, the name of the show is Auction Hunters. They buy storage units and sell the contents to make a profit. They bring stuff to 'Experts' in a Antique Road Show fashion and instead of finding out what it's worth, they find people who will buy it. They were at the house for 4 hours to use a eight minute clip. We have been on TV many times over the years. It doesn't pay and we see little in increased business. We do it to promote the hobby. Any chance we get to expose phonographs to a national audience, we take it. We also were filmed for another new show recently which stars Ty Pennington of Extreme Home Makeover. It may air this summer. I kind of doubt the show will fly. They blew off some real antiques and got excited over a kids Dodgers bobble head collection that dated way back to 2006! My wife and I have done school assemblies as well. I believe that we all must do what we can to expose phonographs to a younger generation if we are to keep this hobby alive in years to come. If anyone wants to see The old man (me) on the show, you can view it online. Google AUCTION HUNTERS and I think it is Season 3 episode 2 (or is it season 2, episode 3?) The show also featured a second storage unit with a small speed boat if that helps. If you have cable (we don't) it airs often on the SPIKE channel. As a side note, I purchased some phonographs from a guy a few years ago who bought storage units like the show and he said the strangest thing he ever found were two dead bodies that were in a box that was sealed in layers of heavy plastic tarps. Some Asian guy killed these people and forgot to pay for his unit. The killer left the country and might have gotten away with it, but he sent a check to the storage unit people from the country he was in. The local police arrested him and he was soon executed. I think I'll stick to phonographs. -Scott Denise -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of zonophone2...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 11:58 AM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] HI ALL hi you are so right this list is great but we don't need to get caught up in things that are not as important as the great facts we share with each other on our great hobby ...AND WE DO SHOUT IT OUT WHEN ONE OF YOUR COMPATRIOTS MAKES IT TO A TV SHOW.. scott are you here tell everyone about your experience with the show. i forget the name of the show but its the one that buys units. i believe its auction hunters. regards to all zono -Original Message- From: David Dazer dda...@sbcglobal.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tue, May 3, 2011 1:13 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] HI ALL Hi Zono, I am glad to see that you have such a good sense of humor about this! Your rsponse is a classic and shows you to be a person with great wit. Happy Collecting! By the way, you never told me where you saw Scott. Dave --- On Tue, 5/3/11, zonophone2...@aol.com zonophone2...@aol.com wrote: From: zonophone2...@aol.com zonophone2...@aol.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] HI ALL To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Tuesday, May 3, 2011, 11:51 AM hi you are all right but who cares zono In a message dated 5/3/2011 9:21:18 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lhera...@bu.edu writes: And the 'Period .' button does not work. RonL -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of David Dazer Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:43 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] HI ALL Was that one of those auction shows? By the way, did you know that your caps lock is on? Dave --- On Tue, 5/3/11, zonophone2...@aol.com zonophone2...@aol.com wrote: From: zonophone2...@aol.com zonophone2...@aol.com Subject: [Phono-L] HI ALL To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Tuesday, May 3, 2011, 6:28 AM HI I JUST SAW A SHOW WITH SCOTT CORBETT ON IT YOU DID A GOOD ROLE SCOTT ON BUYING THE EDISON FROM THE STORAGE AUCTION BUYERS KUDOS ZONO ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Zonophone Travel Arm
HI JEFF The smiths sold the business but you might call them and ask. they may be able to help you zono -Original Message- From: Jeffry Young, D.O. jeff...@prevea.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Fri, May 6, 2011 7:00 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Zonophone Travel Arm Looking for a Zonophone travel arm. Smith's used to make a repro many years ago but stopped. This would be fine. Original preferred. It is for the short horn set up. (17 horn) This is the small concave metal arm, not the rod. It looks like it probable could have been pressed metal that was formed, rather than cast, but I do not know how it was made. I will pay your price. Contact me off-line at jeff...@prevea.com Thanks, Jeff Wisconsin ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
