Re: [PHP] Shopping Cart Discount System
Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com wrote: Hello Everyone, Hope all are well. Quick and hopefully painless question. Is there any examples on how to build a discount system into your shopping cart out there that anyone knows of? I am using MySQL and PHP. I have built one of my own so far, but am having trouble making sense of what goes where. For example. If a product has miscellaneous charges, lets say.. glitter is extra on your shirt. How is discounts applied? I mean, as far as discounts go, lets say its 20% a shirt and this shirt has glitter. Is it best practice to apply the discount to just the shirt or the shirt and glitter as a combo discount. I know this is somewhat dependent on the owners choice of what he/she wants to give the discount on, but my question is of the programing of it. Do I build conditions for the shirt to get a discount applied then the miscellaneous charges, or combine the totals of the two, then apply the discount to the sum? Then lets say there is a cart discount also being applied. Is it best practice to apply this to the total of items then add the shipping, rush charges and tax, or to the total of the whole cart including shipping, rush charges then add the tax after applying the discount? Sorry for the run-on question, hope this makes sense enough to merit help. HNY, Best, Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com PS: Because this question could be answered by either database or general, is the only reason for the double post. Wont be making a habit of it.. :) I would apply the discounts where they made sense from a customer POV. Would you expect a t-shirt discount to be applied to only the base item or the product as a whole? I'd say tge whole thing. You could have various areas in your code that apply discounts at different levels: per item, per group of items (bogof, etc), and per basket. Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Dec 31, 2012, at 3:36 AM, Ashley Sheridan wrote: Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com wrote: Hello Everyone, Hope all are well. Quick and hopefully painless question. Is there any examples on how to build a discount system into your shopping cart out there that anyone knows of? I am using MySQL and PHP. I have built one of my own so far, but am having trouble making sense of what goes where. For example. If a product has miscellaneous charges, lets say.. glitter is extra on your shirt. How is discounts applied? I mean, as far as discounts go, lets say its 20% a shirt and this shirt has glitter. Is it best practice to apply the discount to just the shirt or the shirt and glitter as a combo discount. I know this is somewhat dependent on the owners choice of what he/she wants to give the discount on, but my question is of the programing of it. Do I build conditions for the shirt to get a discount applied then the miscellaneous charges, or combine the totals of the two, then apply the discount to the sum? Then lets say there is a cart discount also being applied. Is it best practice to apply this to the total of items then add the shipping, rush charges and tax, or to the total of the whole cart including shipping, rush charges then add the tax after applying the discount? Sorry for the run-on question, hope this makes sense enough to merit help. HNY, Best, Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com PS: Because this question could be answered by either database or general, is the only reason for the double post. Wont be making a habit of it.. :) I would apply the discounts where they made sense from a customer POV. Would you expect a t-shirt discount to be applied to only the base item or the product as a whole? I'd say tge whole thing. You could have various areas in your code that apply discounts at different levels: per item, per group of items (bogof, etc), and per basket. Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php That does make more sense now that you say. I guess I would want or expect the discount to apply to the whole thing. Thanks Ash. Best, Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Shopping Cart Discount System
On Dec 31, 2012, at 3:51 PM, tamouse mailing lists wrote: On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 2:31 AM, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com wrote: Hello Everyone, Hope all are well. Quick and hopefully painless question. Is there any examples on how to build a discount system into your shopping cart out there that anyone knows of? I am using MySQL and PHP. I have built one of my own so far, but am having trouble making sense of what goes where. For example. If a product has miscellaneous charges, lets say.. glitter is extra on your shirt. How is discounts applied? I mean, as far as discounts go, lets say its 20% a shirt and this shirt has glitter. Is it best practice to apply the discount to just the shirt or the shirt and glitter as a combo discount. I know this is somewhat dependent on the owners choice of what he/she wants to give the discount on, but my question is of the programing of it. Do I build conditions for the shirt to get a discount applied then the miscellaneous charges, or combine the totals of the two, then apply the discount to the sum? Then lets say there is a cart discount also being applied. Is it best practice to apply this to the total of items then add the shipping, rush charges and tax, or to the total of the whole cart including shipping, rush charges then add the tax after applying the discount? These sound much more like business operating questions than programming questions, per se. I think it really depends a lot on what other businesses in the same niche as yours do, or if you can find out. Once you have figured out the business practices, coding them should be easier, I'd say, but doing it the other way 'round seems like would lead to confusion. Some questions from a really non-business person: 1. Why are you offering discounts at all? What do you hope to accomplish by offering discounts? 2. Who qualifies for which discounts and why? 3. Do discounts apply to just the base merchandise, or the whole end piece, with whatever customisations it might have, and if so or if not, why? 4. Are there different discount rates applied to base merchandise and subsequent customisations, and if so, why? 5. Is there any reason to make this complicated, or instead just offer a flat rate discount on final price, before taxes and SH? My appologies if this is an OT thread. I was in the midst of coding these things when I asked it. Yes, it is a little confusing. This is a small t-shirt company a friend and I are putting together. I have thought out most of the business logic for the company and the website. The only thing I guess I forgot to plan in was these discounts and how to apply them. I currently have discounts per item and per the cart. The discounts are set up to apply on birthdays and added by admins for discounting items to clear inventory. The cart discounts are set to apply at a certain interval of purchase amounts. For eg. (and im really just throwing numbers) if someone buys $1,000 worth of merch, they are sent a 50% off your cart discount to their email. I guess the question was more how to apply the discounts to the cart. Discount item + miscellaneous or just item. Discount cart or cart + shipping + handling. I was also asking if anyone had or knew of a sample script I could pick apart. That was probably the programing part of the question. But thank you guys for taking the time to answer. I believe it helped. We will see.. :) Best, Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Shopping cart question
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Tommy Pham tommy...@gmail.com wrote: -Original Message- From: Nathan Nobbe [mailto:quickshif...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 11:40 AM To: Jack Cc: PHP Subject: Re: [PHP] Shopping cart question On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Jack jacklistm...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I'm looking to build a DB with items that are considered more of a catalog on one side of a website, and then provide those same items including the same images, descriptions etc. to a shopping cart. I don't want to re-invent all of the basic shopping cart functionality and I'm not sure I want to use something like OScommerce and inject the data into it at the same time as putting data into our database that we are writing. I was hoping someone out there has some suggestions, or even a cart module that would allow me to easily integrate into. One recommendation I can give you is to spend some time determining if Magento works for you. This is a conventional platform written on top of Zend Framework. OScommerce, and a derivative, ZenCart are ancient, and there are many nasty things about the programming practices, most notably, the 'view' layer, which is markup intermingled with logic .. its pretty bad. Magento is robust, and has a feature set that makes OScommerce look like it shipped from the third world. That said it may be overkill as well - just my 2c. -nathan Or look at opencart. It's based on MVC and jquery (1.3.2 ?) so you'll get some rich UI. The DB structure is very similar to oscommerce. I've finally had a few minutes to look around Opencart. the framework is custom, and doesn't appear to be as robust as some of the more popular ones I've come to enjoy, but there is a silver lining... I still can't say whether I'll like it or not, but after just digging around for a bit, it already feels more approachable than Magento. My hope is I can hop in and wire this up to associate its schema to a third party inventory and get order integration in place as well. I've spent a little time digging into Magento, and while it seems do-able, the completion date is no where in sight. nice tip Jack! -nathan
Re: [PHP] Shopping cart question
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Jack jacklistm...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I'm looking to build a DB with items that are considered more of a catalog on one side of a website, and then provide those same items including the same images, descriptions etc. to a shopping cart. I don't want to re-invent all of the basic shopping cart functionality and I'm not sure I want to use something like OScommerce and inject the data into it at the same time as putting data into our database that we are writing. I was hoping someone out there has some suggestions, or even a cart module that would allow me to easily integrate into. One recommendation I can give you is to spend some time determining if Magento works for you. This is a conventional platform written on top of Zend Framework. OScommerce, and a derivative, ZenCart are ancient, and there are many nasty things about the programming practices, most notably, the 'view' layer, which is markup intermingled with logic .. its pretty bad. Magento is robust, and has a feature set that makes OScommerce look like it shipped from the third world. That said it may be overkill as well - just my 2c. -nathan
RE: [PHP] Shopping cart question
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Jack jacklistm...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I'm looking to build a DB with items that are considered more of a catalog on one side of a website, and then provide those same items including the same images, descriptions etc. to a shopping cart. I don't want to re-invent all of the basic shopping cart functionality and I'm not sure I want to use something like OScommerce and inject the data into it at the same time as putting data into our database that we are writing. I was hoping someone out there has some suggestions, or even a cart module that would allow me to easily integrate into. One recommendation I can give you is to spend some time determining if Magento works for you. This is a conventional platform written on top of Zend Framework. OScommerce, and a derivative, ZenCart are ancient, and there are many nasty things about the programming practices, most notably, the 'view' layer, which is markup intermingled with logic .. its pretty bad. Magento is robust, and has a feature set that makes OScommerce look like it shipped from the third world. That said it may be overkill as well - just my 2c. -nathan I agree, this is a cart I was going to check into because it has many more features and is probably a little more if not a lot more stable than OScommerce. I just am not sure if I want to inject everything, although I may not have a choice. Thanks!
RE: [PHP] Shopping cart question
-Original Message- From: Nathan Nobbe [mailto:quickshif...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 11:40 AM To: Jack Cc: PHP Subject: Re: [PHP] Shopping cart question On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Jack jacklistm...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I'm looking to build a DB with items that are considered more of a catalog on one side of a website, and then provide those same items including the same images, descriptions etc. to a shopping cart. I don't want to re-invent all of the basic shopping cart functionality and I'm not sure I want to use something like OScommerce and inject the data into it at the same time as putting data into our database that we are writing. I was hoping someone out there has some suggestions, or even a cart module that would allow me to easily integrate into. One recommendation I can give you is to spend some time determining if Magento works for you. This is a conventional platform written on top of Zend Framework. OScommerce, and a derivative, ZenCart are ancient, and there are many nasty things about the programming practices, most notably, the 'view' layer, which is markup intermingled with logic .. its pretty bad. Magento is robust, and has a feature set that makes OScommerce look like it shipped from the third world. That said it may be overkill as well - just my 2c. -nathan Or look at opencart. It's based on MVC and jquery (1.3.2 ?) so you'll get some rich UI. The DB structure is very similar to oscommerce. Regards, Tommy -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Shopping Cart
They are all going to the same place, so what is wrong? To address your question, credit cards are not easy. As soon as you set up a site to accept them you must conform to a number of security and interface requirements. If you have never done it before, either hire someone that knows what they are doing, or hire someone to train you how to do it. The other option is to find a hosting site that provides both secure servers and credit card authorization services and put your web site on their servers. It took us nearly two years to get certification that our servers and software comply with all of the relevant PCI standards. We have two projects that are still being evaluated and don't expect final approval on them until August. There are four people here that are tasked with monitoring and managing that process. Bob McConnell -Original Message- From: Gary [mailto:gwp...@ptd.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 8:44 AM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: [PHP] Shopping Cart Sorry, the first three post was put in the wrong place... Not sure this is a direct PHP question, however I know I will get some answers here. I have a customer that I am bidding a small project for. They want to be able to accept credit card payments for enrollment into a class. Their customer will fill out a form and pay via CC on the site. Is this something that I should just look to the host for whatever shopping cart they have or is there an easy to administer software package that I should look into. Or since it is a one item cart, is this something that I could code? Thanks for your help. Gary -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Shopping Cart
Bob McConnell wrote: They are all going to the same place, so what is wrong? To address your question, credit cards are not easy. As soon as you set up a site to accept them you must conform to a number of security and interface requirements. If you have never done it before, either hire someone that knows what they are doing, or hire someone to train you how to do it. The other option is to find a hosting site that provides both secure servers and credit card authorization services and put your web site on their servers. It took us nearly two years to get certification that our servers and software comply with all of the relevant PCI standards. We have two projects that are still being evaluated and don't expect final approval on them until August. There are four people here that are tasked with monitoring and managing that process. Bob McConnell Holy duplicates batman. ;-) Just some comments regarding 'Shopping Carts' and commerce, and it being 'scary' :-). I agree that this is ideally a realm for professionals and maybe even a realm for niche professionals in many cases. However, there are 'levels'. When I hear people say that e-commerce requires multiple people in multiple rolls, and is 'brain surgery' (as tedd said), I have to disagree in some respect. I just don't think it is unattainable for a new passionate developer/WebSite owner to take on the goal of commerce. As tedd mentioned, there are canned PHP solutions that may make a good first effort. In fact, we have a canned product (not PHP, but WebDNA) that a new user need only spend an afternoon using a 'Wizzard' of sorts that both creates a site, and takes care of connecting to your Merchant Account/Payment Gateway to take payments. One afternoon! I'm sure there are similar PHP apps. Just my ¢.02 Donovan -- =o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o D. BROOKE EUCA Design Center WebDNA Software Corp. WEB: http://www.euca.us | http://www.webdna.us =o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o WebDNA: [** Square Bracket Utopia **] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Shopping Cart
At 10:37 AM +0100 5/16/09, Vernon St Croix wrote: Hi, I am pretty new to PHP and I am trying to create a shopping cart. Hi Vee: I'm new to brain surgery and every time I poke here, I see stars -- any idea of what's wrong? :-) If you are new to php, then find something simple to cut your teeth on -- shopping carts are not trivial. At best, you'll create a bunch of junk code and waste a lot of your time AND at worst, you'll create a script that ruins your client and puts you on the hook for mondo bucks. My opinion, buy a shopping cart and figure out how to install it. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Shopping Cart
On Sat, 2009-05-16 at 10:37 +0100, Vernon St Croix wrote:
Hi,
I am pretty new to PHP and I am trying to create a shopping cart.
I keep on getting the below error when trying to show the shopping list.
Any guidance that can be provided will be very much appreciated
Fatal error: Call to a member function query() on a non-object in
C:\wamp\www\draft\basket.php on line 36
basket.php
?php
include(mysql.class.php);
include (header.php);
include (mysql_connect.php);
include (functions.php);
?
div id=shopping
h2Rum Basket/h2
?php
echo writeCart();
?
/div
div id=rumlist
h2Rum on Offer/h2
?php
$sql= 'SELECT * FROM spirits BY id';
$result = $con-query($sql);
$output[]= 'ul';
while ($row = $result-fetch()) {
$output[] = 'li'.$row['name'].': pound;'.$row['price'].'br/a
href=cart.php?action=addid=
'.$row['id'].'Add to Cart/a/li';
}
$output[] = '/ul';
echo join ('', $output);
?
/div
/div
?php
include(footer.html);
?
[snip][/snip]
Many Thanks
Vee
The code you are having the error on is expecting a mysqli object, but
you are using mysql, which doesn't create objects that you access
methods and properties of.
Change the $result line in basket.php to $result = mysql_query($sql) and
in your while loop change it to use $row = mysql_fetch_array($result)
Ash
www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
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Re: [PHP] Shopping Cart
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 05:37, Vernon St Croix vstcr...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, I am pretty new to PHP and I am trying to create a shopping cart. Just as a side note: in the future, please do not cross-post on multiple lists. For general questions, this is the right place. The PHP-DB list is just for database-centric code. -- /Daniel P. Brown daniel.br...@parasane.net || danbr...@php.net http://www.parasane.net/ || http://www.pilotpig.net/ 50% Off All Shared Hosting Plans at PilotPig: Use Coupon DOW1 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Shopping Cart
Darrel St Croix wrote: Thanks for that. I have changed the code as you suggested, but there is an error on the while loop. *Warning*: mysql_fetch_array(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in *C:\wamp\www\draft\basket.php* on line *46* That's because $result is not valid because the query failed. You'd see this if you turned on error reporting. BY is not valid in your query, maybe ORDER BY? -- Thanks! -Shawn http://www.spidean.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Shopping Cart
Hi, Yes, I have and thought I was seeking the assistance of knowledgeable colleagues . The solution researched does not offer the desired features. I was not asking for code, but perhaps some solutions/ applications to explore. CK PS I don't appreciate being scolded. On Oct 27, 2006, at 3:07 AM, Chris wrote: CK wrote: Hi, A client has requested a cart with the following features, any leads on such a package, preferably open-source? Have you done any research at all? We're not going to do your work for you.. -- Postgresql php tutorials http://www.designmagick.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php On Oct 27, 2006, at 3:07 AM, Chris wrote: CK wrote: Hi, A client has requested a cart with the following features, any leads on such a package, preferably open-source? Have you done any research at all? We're not going to do your work for you.. -- Postgresql php tutorials http://www.designmagick.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Shopping Cart
I don't appreciate being scolded. Spend some time on the list and see how many times this question (or type of question) gets asked and how many people actually do *some* sort of work for themselves and you'll appreciate why people ask this straight away. If you had said I found product X Y but they don't fit what I need then we at least know you've made an effort to do a little research for yourself. -- Postgresql php tutorials http://www.designmagick.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Hi, I'm new to the list, and PHP. My assumption was others who have asked similar questions, would have, like myself, done research. So I thought no need to clarify. I'm aware these list are not a do my homework solution. However, having received a verbally abusive retort, when education was desired; I'll seek counsel elsewhere. Good Day, CK On Oct 28, 2006, at 6:13 AM, chris smith wrote: I don't appreciate being scolded. Spend some time on the list and see how many times this question (or type of question) gets asked and how many people actually do *some* sort of work for themselves and you'll appreciate why people ask this straight away. If you had said I found product X Y but they don't fit what I need then we at least know you've made an effort to do a little research for yourself. -- Postgresql php tutorials http://www.designmagick.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Shopping Cart
CK wrote: I'm new to the list, and PHP. My assumption was others who have asked similar questions, would have, like myself, done research. So I thought no need to clarify. I'm aware these list are not a do my homework solution. However, having received a verbally abusive retort, when education was desired; I'll seek counsel elsewhere. Ok, a couple of things need saying here. 1) Stating I've done this and that already but nothing helped is not only about letting us know you've not already done some research. It's also about telling us what you've already done so we don't waste our time telling you what you already know. 2) We don't owe you anything. If you decide to go elsewhere for help don't expect us to feel guilty or upset or anything but mildly amused. I would point out that you're unlikely to find a better source of help than the 'official' PHP lists, but I really don't care enough about where you go for help. -Stut -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Oct 28, 2006, at 8:52 AM, Stut wrote: CK wrote: I'm new to the list, and PHP. My assumption was others who have asked similar questions, would have, like myself, done research. So I thought no need to clarify. I'm aware these list are not a do my homework solution. However, having received a verbally abusive retort, when education was desired; I'll seek counsel elsewhere. Ok, a couple of things need saying here. 1) Stating I've done this and that already but nothing helped is not only about letting us know you've not already done some research. It's also about telling us what you've already done so we don't waste our time telling you what you already know. Be specific in stating what prior research has been done so that we may help, if possible. Point noted. 2) We don't owe you anything. If you decide to go elsewhere for help don't expect us to feel guilty or upset or anything but mildly amused. I would point out that you're unlikely to find a better source of help than the 'official' PHP lists, but I really don't care enough about where you go for help. My statement was meant as some behavioral/emotional modification, or an attempt at soliciting pity. So my lack of compassion is mutually returned. -Stut -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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CK, With the obligatory chastisement and ensuing defensiveness out of the way :) you may want to check out Zen Cart (zen-cart.com) and see if it meets your requirements. Cheers, G -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Be specific in stating what prior research has been done so that we may help, if possible. Point noted. Helping out further, you'll find that this rule applies to almost all mailing lists. 2) We don't owe you anything. If you decide to go elsewhere for help don't expect us to feel guilty or upset or anything but mildly amused. I would point out that you're unlikely to find a better source of help than the 'official' PHP lists, but I really don't care enough about where you go for help. My statement was meant as some behavioral/emotional modification, or an attempt at soliciting pity. So my lack of compassion is mutually returned. Helping out even further with another general rule of etiquette on mailing lists, keep it cool and filter the crap. For example, Chris' initial reply came across as offensive and you could have surprised him by filtering his attitude, focusing on the real issue, and responding with information about what you have researched up to this point. Speaking of which, I think that's where this thread is. Have you researched any of the options that come up from Googling php shopping cart? Which options have you dismissed and why? -Ed -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Shopping Cart
CK wrote: Hi, A client has requested a cart with the following features, any leads on such a package, preferably open-source? Have you done any research at all? We're not going to do your work for you.. -- Postgresql php tutorials http://www.designmagick.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Shopping cart
Richard Lynch mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 10:30 AM said: Guys, don't take this wrong but... How do you think all the other PHP shopping carts got started?... Pretty much the same way. So you really need to spend the next couple months figuring out what they did wrong, why they did that, and how to avoid doing it... Finally, some sanity. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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It really looks like I will have to write this myself :( I know it will be good for experience but like someone else has pointed out, I would rather work with someone elses code for the payment parts knowing that it has been totally debugged than getting screwed later on because I missed assigning a value to a variable... Still searching though, tested OSC,ZenCart, Xcart,FishCart, now on to phpshop... Drupal seems good, but kinda large with all the modules out there... a bit intimidating, will keep that as a reserve check I think this is the reason why there are so many carts out there people just get pissed seaching for a simple one which they can use their _own_ page design, and dont find it... then they write one for themselves, see it works very well, decide to go commercial... get requests to add just one more thing and screw it up like all the others..! Cheers! Ryan --- Larry Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There may be other canned solutions that are not as bad as OSCommerce. It's the only one I've worked with other than Drupal. I've worked with Drupal extensively, but haven't used its ecommerce modules extensively. But yes, I highly recommend OSCommerce as an example of how not to write a PHP application, of any kind. On Monday 21 August 2006 15:18, Gerry D wrote: So if I understand you gentlemen correctly, these pre-builds serve as examples how NOT to do it? Gerry On 8/20/06, Larry Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 20 August 2006 20:17, Gerry D wrote: On 8/19/06, Larry Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OSCommerce is crap. Don't bother. Why do you say that, Larry? I may want to get into an app like that because I think one of my clients is ready for it. What are the cons, and what are my options? What are Drupal's limitations? I tried using it for a client last summer, because it was available free on the client's web host. It is extremely rigid. If you want a program that works the way they want and looks kinda like Buy.com with a table-based layout in 3 columns with certain visual effects, it's fine. If you want to change or customize anything, good luck. Nearly everything is hard coded with HTML and presentation PHP and business logic PHP all mixed in together. With a table based layout. Ugh. As for using pre-build vs. rolling your own, the main reason I favor ready-made is the bank hookups. Anytime financial stuff is involved, I'd rather use something someone else already debugged than roll my own. -- Larry GarfieldAIM: LOLG42 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 6817012 If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it. -- Thomas Jefferson -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- - The faulty interface lies between the chair and the keyboard. - Creativity is great, but plagiarism is faster! - Smile, everyone loves a moron. :-) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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There are many payment processing script/classes/examples available that you could use. Just google around for your gateway provider, like PHP and Authorize.net, etc, or go to their site and look for a developer, API or something like that to see if they have done some examples. On 8/22/06, Ryan A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It really looks like I will have to write this myself :( I know it will be good for experience but like someone else has pointed out, I would rather work with someone elses code for the payment parts knowing that it has been totally debugged than getting screwed later on because I missed assigning a value to a variable... Still searching though, tested OSC,ZenCart, Xcart,FishCart, now on to phpshop... Drupal seems good, but kinda large with all the modules out there... a bit intimidating, will keep that as a reserve check I think this is the reason why there are so many carts out there people just get pissed seaching for a simple one which they can use their _own_ page design, and dont find it... then they write one for themselves, see it works very well, decide to go commercial... get requests to add just one more thing and screw it up like all the others..! Cheers! Ryan --- Larry Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There may be other canned solutions that are not as bad as OSCommerce. It's the only one I've worked with other than Drupal. I've worked with Drupal extensively, but haven't used its ecommerce modules extensively. But yes, I highly recommend OSCommerce as an example of how not to write a PHP application, of any kind. On Monday 21 August 2006 15:18, Gerry D wrote: So if I understand you gentlemen correctly, these pre-builds serve as examples how NOT to do it? Gerry On 8/20/06, Larry Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 20 August 2006 20:17, Gerry D wrote: On 8/19/06, Larry Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OSCommerce is crap. Don't bother. Why do you say that, Larry? I may want to get into an app like that because I think one of my clients is ready for it. What are the cons, and what are my options? What are Drupal's limitations? I tried using it for a client last summer, because it was available free on the client's web host. It is extremely rigid. If you want a program that works the way they want and looks kinda like Buy.com with a table-based layout in 3 columns with certain visual effects, it's fine. If you want to change or customize anything, good luck. Nearly everything is hard coded with HTML and presentation PHP and business logic PHP all mixed in together. With a table based layout. Ugh. As for using pre-build vs. rolling your own, the main reason I favor ready-made is the bank hookups. Anytime financial stuff is involved, I'd rather use something someone else already debugged than roll my own. -- Larry GarfieldAIM: LOLG42 [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 6817012 If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it. -- Thomas Jefferson -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- - The faulty interface lies between the chair and the keyboard. - Creativity is great, but plagiarism is faster! - Smile, everyone loves a moron. :-) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Commercial product that is good http://www.x-cart.com/ On 8/22/06, Ryan A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It really looks like I will have to write this myself :( I know it will be good for experience but like someone else has pointed out, I would rather work with someone elses code for the payment parts knowing that it has been totally debugged than getting screwed later on because I missed assigning a value to a variable... Still searching though, tested OSC,ZenCart, Xcart,FishCart, now on to phpshop... Drupal seems good, but kinda large with all the modules out there... a bit intimidating, will keep that as a reserve check I think this is the reason why there are so many carts out there people just get pissed seaching for a simple one which they can use their _own_ page design, and dont find it... then they write one for themselves, see it works very well, decide to go commercial... get requests to add just one more thing and screw it up like all the others..! Cheers! Ryan --- Larry Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There may be other canned solutions that are not as bad as OSCommerce. It's the only one I've worked with other than Drupal. I've worked with Drupal extensively, but haven't used its ecommerce modules extensively. But yes, I highly recommend OSCommerce as an example of how not to write a PHP application, of any kind. On Monday 21 August 2006 15:18, Gerry D wrote: So if I understand you gentlemen correctly, these pre-builds serve as examples how NOT to do it? Gerry On 8/20/06, Larry Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 20 August 2006 20:17, Gerry D wrote: On 8/19/06, Larry Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OSCommerce is crap. Don't bother. Why do you say that, Larry? I may want to get into an app like that because I think one of my clients is ready for it. What are the cons, and what are my options? What are Drupal's limitations? I tried using it for a client last summer, because it was available free on the client's web host. It is extremely rigid. If you want a program that works the way they want and looks kinda like Buy.com with a table-based layout in 3 columns with certain visual effects, it's fine. If you want to change or customize anything, good luck. Nearly everything is hard coded with HTML and presentation PHP and business logic PHP all mixed in together. With a table based layout. Ugh. As for using pre-build vs. rolling your own, the main reason I favor ready-made is the bank hookups. Anytime financial stuff is involved, I'd rather use something someone else already debugged than roll my own. -- Larry GarfieldAIM: LOLG42 [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 6817012 If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it. -- Thomas Jefferson -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- - The faulty interface lies between the chair and the keyboard. - Creativity is great, but plagiarism is faster! - Smile, everyone loves a moron. :-) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 05:36 -0700, Ryan A wrote: It really looks like I will have to write this myself :( We need to create a proper one, under a decent licence as a community damnit! Maybe even a generic PEAR object that can be customized/extended to connect to whatever gateway you need to? I can start the project, any volunteers to do some code/docs etc? --Paul All Email originating from UWC is covered by disclaimer http://www.uwc.ac.za/portal/uwc2006/content/mail_disclaimer/index.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Hey, There are many payment processing script/classes/examples available that you could use. Just google around for your gateway provider, like PHP and Authorize.net, etc, or go to their site and look for a developer, API or something like that to see if they have done some examples. Yeah, i guess thats also an idea, will look into it. Will also need to look into the logic of calculating shipping, something that I have never done in the past. Kind of worked out the logic of customers who bought this also bought... gotto take one step at a time... which breaks down to a problem coz dont have much time to take many steps :( Cheers! Ryan -- - The faulty interface lies between the chair and the keyboard. - Creativity is great, but plagiarism is faster! - Smile, everyone loves a moron. :-) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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I believe you can find those out there as well, most of what you need will be available out there, you will be able to find them and then take what you need to work it into your cart, probably would be a good idea to think of all the different pieces and then find the different examples/tutorials/snippets and then see how they fit. On 8/22/06, Ryan A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, There are many payment processing script/classes/examples available that you could use. Just google around for your gateway provider, like PHP and Authorize.net, etc, or go to their site and look for a developer, API or something like that to see if they have done some examples. Yeah, i guess thats also an idea, will look into it. Will also need to look into the logic of calculating shipping, something that I have never done in the past. Kind of worked out the logic of customers who bought this also bought... gotto take one step at a time... which breaks down to a problem coz dont have much time to take many steps :( Cheers! Ryan -- - The faulty interface lies between the chair and the keyboard. - Creativity is great, but plagiarism is faster! - Smile, everyone loves a moron. :-) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Another thing to remember is that you dont want to get overwhelmed with all the work when you are going to build your own, a list of 250,000 features will never get done, many have tried, many have failed, so plan what you need to start with and build the other features later. On 8/22/06, Dan McCullough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe you can find those out there as well, most of what you need will be available out there, you will be able to find them and then take what you need to work it into your cart, probably would be a good idea to think of all the different pieces and then find the different examples/tutorials/snippets and then see how they fit. On 8/22/06, Ryan A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, There are many payment processing script/classes/examples available that you could use. Just google around for your gateway provider, like PHP and Authorize.net, etc, or go to their site and look for a developer, API or something like that to see if they have done some examples. Yeah, i guess thats also an idea, will look into it. Will also need to look into the logic of calculating shipping, something that I have never done in the past. Kind of worked out the logic of customers who bought this also bought... gotto take one step at a time... which breaks down to a problem coz dont have much time to take many steps :( Cheers! Ryan -- - The faulty interface lies between the chair and the keyboard. - Creativity is great, but plagiarism is faster! - Smile, everyone loves a moron. :-) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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--- Paul Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 05:36 -0700, Ryan A wrote: It really looks like I will have to write this myself :( We need to create a proper one, under a decent licence as a community damnit! Maybe even a generic PEAR object that can be customized/extended to connect to whatever gateway you need to? I can start the project, any volunteers to do some code/docs etc? --Paul Hey Paul, I need this now more than most people so you can count me in... but first we have to start agreeing on how to do it and what features it will have etc I have done a project that connect to and interacts with the 2checkout gateway so there i can be pretty helpful and maybe documentation but other than that i have no idea if my code is really clean Never did any thing with PEAR other than try its database stuff. Cheers, Ryan -- - The faulty interface lies between the chair and the keyboard. - Creativity is great, but plagiarism is faster! - Smile, everyone loves a moron. :-) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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I believe you can find those out there as well, most of what you need will be available out there, you will be able to find them and then take what you need to work it into your cart, probably would be a good idea to think of all the different pieces and then find the different examples/tutorials/snippets and then see how they fit. Yep, I always count the jigsaw puzzle pieces before i start ;) Cheers! -- - The faulty interface lies between the chair and the keyboard. - Creativity is great, but plagiarism is faster! - Smile, everyone loves a moron. :-) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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--- Dan McCullough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another thing to remember is that you dont want to get overwhelmed with all the work when you are going to build your own, a list of 250,000 features will never get done, many have tried, many have failed, so plan what you need to start with and build the other features later. Good point, I feel into that ditch myself some time back... -- - The faulty interface lies between the chair and the keyboard. - Creativity is great, but plagiarism is faster! - Smile, everyone loves a moron. :-) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Please sign up for an account and join the project at http://gforge2.uwc.ac.za/projects/phpcart/ I have started a mailing list, which should kick in in a few hours... --Paul On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 08:47 -0700, Ryan A wrote: --- Paul Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 05:36 -0700, Ryan A wrote: It really looks like I will have to write this myself :( We need to create a proper one, under a decent licence as a community damnit! Maybe even a generic PEAR object that can be customized/extended to connect to whatever gateway you need to? I can start the project, any volunteers to do some code/docs etc? --Paul Hey Paul, I need this now more than most people so you can count me in... but first we have to start agreeing on how to do it and what features it will have etc I have done a project that connect to and interacts with the 2checkout gateway so there i can be pretty helpful and maybe documentation but other than that i have no idea if my code is really clean Never did any thing with PEAR other than try its database stuff. Cheers, Ryan -- - The faulty interface lies between the chair and the keyboard. - Creativity is great, but plagiarism is faster! - Smile, everyone loves a moron. :-) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com All Email originating from UWC is covered by disclaimer http://www.uwc.ac.za/portal/uwc2006/content/mail_disclaimer/index.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Please sign up for an account and join the project at http://gforge2.uwc.ac.za/projects/phpcart/ I have started a mailing list, which should kick in in a few hours... --Paul Hey, Signed up there, but how do i join the project? my username is ryan I think you might also want to change the project name... phpcart is just too common to think that someone else is not using for one of their products. Maybe APC (August php cart :D ) Cheers! Ryan -- - The faulty interface lies between the chair and the keyboard. - Creativity is great, but plagiarism is faster! - Smile, everyone loves a moron. :-) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 09:22 -0700, Ryan A wrote: Please sign up for an account and join the project at http://gforge2.uwc.ac.za/projects/phpcart/ I have started a mailing list, which should kick in in a few hours... --Paul Hey, Signed up there, but how do i join the project? my username is ryan I think you might also want to change the project name... phpcart is just too common to think that someone else is not using for one of their products. Maybe APC (August php cart :D ) Obviously you don't run the APC op-code cache ;) Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Hey, Signed up there, but how do i join the project? my username is ryan OK I have added you as a project admin. I think you might also want to change the project name... phpcart is just too common to think that someone else is not using for one of their products. The project name and the branding are different things. We will get a designer to pimp it up later ;) Maybe APC (August php cart :D ) Why not just call it opcode cache and be done with it? :) --Paul All Email originating from UWC is covered by disclaimer http://www.uwc.ac.za/portal/uwc2006/content/mail_disclaimer/index.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Ryan A wrote: Maybe APC (August php cart :D ) How about SPECS - Simple [PHP|Pluggable] E-Commerce System. I have a few thoughts about this idea and will put something together later today. -Stut -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Hey, Hey, Signed up there, but how do i join the project? my username is ryan OK I have added you as a project admin. Thanks I think you might also want to change the project name... phpcart is just too common to think that someone else is not using for one of their products. The project name and the branding are different things. We will get a designer to pimp it up later ;) Maybe APC (August php cart :D ) Why not just call it opcode cache and be done with it? :) OCC - not to bad, i like it. I also have some photoshop talents, so give me a shout there if needed. Cheers, Ryan -- - The faulty interface lies between the chair and the keyboard. - Creativity is great, but plagiarism is faster! - Smile, everyone loves a moron. :-) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Maybe APC (August php cart :D ) Obviously you don't run the APC op-code cache ;) :) you got me there Rob, dont have a clue about it. Sorry if I stepped on anyones toes. Cheers! Ryan -- - The faulty interface lies between the chair and the keyboard. - Creativity is great, but plagiarism is faster! - Smile, everyone loves a moron. :-) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Pretty much, yeah. And apparently the next thing not to do is to run out and start coding your own shopping cart for general release, as every damn one of them got started that way. :-) On Mon, August 21, 2006 3:18 pm, Gerry D wrote: So if I understand you gentlemen correctly, these pre-builds serve as examples how NOT to do it? Gerry On 8/20/06, Larry Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 20 August 2006 20:17, Gerry D wrote: On 8/19/06, Larry Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OSCommerce is crap. Don't bother. Why do you say that, Larry? I may want to get into an app like that because I think one of my clients is ready for it. What are the cons, and what are my options? What are Drupal's limitations? I tried using it for a client last summer, because it was available free on the client's web host. It is extremely rigid. If you want a program that works the way they want and looks kinda like Buy.com with a table-based layout in 3 columns with certain visual effects, it's fine. If you want to change or customize anything, good luck. Nearly everything is hard coded with HTML and presentation PHP and business logic PHP all mixed in together. With a table based layout. Ugh. As for using pre-build vs. rolling your own, the main reason I favor ready-made is the bank hookups. Anytime financial stuff is involved, I'd rather use something someone else already debugged than roll my own. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Like Music? http://l-i-e.com/artists.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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And if you do NEED those 250,000 features completed in 30 days, you have no choice but to suck it up and use the least-evil of the carts out there. Which brings us back (almost) to the original question... Which pre-packaged PHP shopping cart sucks least? On Tue, August 22, 2006 11:13 am, Ryan A wrote: --- Dan McCullough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another thing to remember is that you dont want to get overwhelmed with all the work when you are going to build your own, a list of 250,000 features will never get done, many have tried, many have failed, so plan what you need to start with and build the other features later. Good point, I feel into that ditch myself some time back... -- - The faulty interface lies between the chair and the keyboard. - Creativity is great, but plagiarism is faster! - Smile, everyone loves a moron. :-) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Like Music? http://l-i-e.com/artists.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Maybe APC (August php cart :D ) How about SPECS - Simple [PHP|Pluggable] E-Commerce System. I have a few thoughts about this idea and will put something together later today. -Stut What's in a name? That which we call a rose by :D Not really bothered what its called, even if its crap crab cart or crab crap cart (real tongue twisters eh) Lets get this started and pool ideas / resources and then worry about the name later... so join in Stut, i'm sure if we all pool in we can make something really good. Cheers, Ryan P.S , theres quite a bit of stuff at php classes.org that I think we can salvage for parts. (Just type in cart in the search field) -- - The faulty interface lies between the chair and the keyboard. - Creativity is great, but plagiarism is faster! - Smile, everyone loves a moron. :-) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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--- Richard Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And if you do NEED those 250,000 features completed in 30 days, you have no choice but to suck it up and use the least-evil of the carts out there. Which brings us back (almost) to the original question... Which pre-packaged PHP shopping cart sucks least? Been trying one after the other, although there are many contenters that deserve the prize for which sucks the most still have to sift through the muck to get to which sucks the least...and yes, i know, sorry...not much help. Cheers! Ryan -- - The faulty interface lies between the chair and the keyboard. - Creativity is great, but plagiarism is faster! - Smile, everyone loves a moron. :-) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Tue, August 22, 2006 11:52 am, Robert Cummings wrote: On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 09:22 -0700, Ryan A wrote: Please sign up for an account and join the project at http://gforge2.uwc.ac.za/projects/phpcart/ I have started a mailing list, which should kick in in a few hours... --Paul Hey, Signed up there, but how do i join the project? my username is ryan I think you might also want to change the project name... phpcart is just too common to think that someone else is not using for one of their products. Maybe APC (August php cart :D ) Obviously you don't run the APC op-code cache ;) Guys, don't take this wrong but... How do you think all the other PHP shopping carts got started?... Pretty much the same way. So you really need to spend the next couple months figuring out what they did wrong, why they did that, and how to avoid doing it... :-) -- Like Music? http://l-i-e.com/artists.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Cron for the mailing list has done its magic, so we can move this off the php-general list, i'm sure much to the relief of all those _not_ interested in this lot ;) Please visit http://avoir.uwc.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/phpcart-devel to subscribe. --Paul On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 10:24 -0700, Ryan A wrote: --- Richard Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And if you do NEED those 250,000 features completed in 30 days, you have no choice but to suck it up and use the least-evil of the carts out there. Which brings us back (almost) to the original question... Which pre-packaged PHP shopping cart sucks least? Been trying one after the other, although there are many contenters that deserve the prize for which sucks the most still have to sift through the muck to get to which sucks the least...and yes, i know, sorry...not much help. Cheers! Ryan -- - The faulty interface lies between the chair and the keyboard. - Creativity is great, but plagiarism is faster! - Smile, everyone loves a moron. :-) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com All Email originating from UWC is covered by disclaimer http://www.uwc.ac.za/portal/uwc2006/content/mail_disclaimer/index.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Shopping cart
So if I understand you gentlemen correctly, these pre-builds serve as examples how NOT to do it? Gerry On 8/20/06, Larry Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 20 August 2006 20:17, Gerry D wrote: On 8/19/06, Larry Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OSCommerce is crap. Don't bother. Why do you say that, Larry? I may want to get into an app like that because I think one of my clients is ready for it. What are the cons, and what are my options? What are Drupal's limitations? I tried using it for a client last summer, because it was available free on the client's web host. It is extremely rigid. If you want a program that works the way they want and looks kinda like Buy.com with a table-based layout in 3 columns with certain visual effects, it's fine. If you want to change or customize anything, good luck. Nearly everything is hard coded with HTML and presentation PHP and business logic PHP all mixed in together. With a table based layout. Ugh. As for using pre-build vs. rolling your own, the main reason I favor ready-made is the bank hookups. Anytime financial stuff is involved, I'd rather use something someone else already debugged than roll my own. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Shopping cart
There may be other canned solutions that are not as bad as OSCommerce. It's the only one I've worked with other than Drupal. I've worked with Drupal extensively, but haven't used its ecommerce modules extensively. But yes, I highly recommend OSCommerce as an example of how not to write a PHP application, of any kind. On Monday 21 August 2006 15:18, Gerry D wrote: So if I understand you gentlemen correctly, these pre-builds serve as examples how NOT to do it? Gerry On 8/20/06, Larry Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 20 August 2006 20:17, Gerry D wrote: On 8/19/06, Larry Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OSCommerce is crap. Don't bother. Why do you say that, Larry? I may want to get into an app like that because I think one of my clients is ready for it. What are the cons, and what are my options? What are Drupal's limitations? I tried using it for a client last summer, because it was available free on the client's web host. It is extremely rigid. If you want a program that works the way they want and looks kinda like Buy.com with a table-based layout in 3 columns with certain visual effects, it's fine. If you want to change or customize anything, good luck. Nearly everything is hard coded with HTML and presentation PHP and business logic PHP all mixed in together. With a table based layout. Ugh. As for using pre-build vs. rolling your own, the main reason I favor ready-made is the bank hookups. Anytime financial stuff is involved, I'd rather use something someone else already debugged than roll my own. -- Larry Garfield AIM: LOLG42 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 6817012 If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it. -- Thomas Jefferson -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Shopping cart
Thanks, Will check it out. Am also looking at viart shop, any insight from someone who has used it would be helpful. Cheers! Ryan --- Larry Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OSCommerce is crap. Don't bother. obligatory plug The Drupal CMS has a complete suite of ecommerce modules that work with it. I've not worked with it recently, but if you just need a straightforward shopping cart it should be fine. http://drupal.org/ http://drupal.org/project/ecommerce All GPLed. /obligatory plug On Saturday 19 August 2006 10:37, Ryan A wrote: Hey, I have been long enough on this list to know this shopping cart question comes up real often and irritates a lot of folks, but sorry, I have checked google and hotscripts and it has come down to a recommendation from YOU guys as they are SO many options out there with each cart most of which i will never need. Feel free to mention commercial products as I have been looking at them too, but if i go in for a commercial solution I will have to cut somewhere else as this is for myself and i'm starting out...budgets low and am trying to do everything myself, but dont have time to make this myself. Will be selling spare parts. I dont want a cart to do a million things, just around 10 :) 1. Admin panel where i enter quantity and it keeps track of inventry 2. Should be *fast* (php+mysql solution) 3.Intergrate with paypal+2checkout anything more is a bonus 4. Easy to template 5. Calculates shipping (not vital, but bonus if it does) 6. Should be able to give discounts based on price and accept discount codes. 7. Should offer the customers who bought this also bought feature 8. Easy to maintain OSC is the first cart that comes to mind, followed by Zen, xcart (xcart out of my budget though) Am leaning towards OSC for the price but its got an overload of bulk and speed problems... Please recommend, even a link to any site and a go to that f***ing site (the = of a RTFM) would be appreciated. Thanks! Ryan -- - The faulty interface lies between the chair and the keyboard. - Creativity is great, but plagiarism is faster! - Smile, everyone loves a moron. :-) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Larry GarfieldAIM: LOLG42 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 6817012 If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it. -- Thomas Jefferson -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- - The faulty interface lies between the chair and the keyboard. - Creativity is great, but plagiarism is faster! - Smile, everyone loves a moron. :-) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Shopping cart
While OSC is mentioned: I use OSC (actually CRE Loaded version: http://www.creloaded.com) for a last 2-3 years and installed several shoping carts. And, they, more or less, work fine. Though, what drives me nuts, instalation sometime goes wrong with missing file, or after patc I have manually to delete some files to make it work... And, what scares me the most, on their forum you can find a tons of installation questions/problems. And most of them will stay unanswered. The reason I shoosed OSC is it was so easy make my own changes and versions, comparing to xcart (I installed two of those too and they look fine and stable to me). My question is actually, your opinion about OSC and/or CRE Loaded, safety, support and, of course, how the application is coded (as friend of mine told me once the worst code ever written that works fine :)). Thanks. -afan OSCommerce is crap. Don't bother. obligatory plug The Drupal CMS has a complete suite of ecommerce modules that work with it. I've not worked with it recently, but if you just need a straightforward shopping cart it should be fine. http://drupal.org/ http://drupal.org/project/ecommerce All GPLed. /obligatory plug On Saturday 19 August 2006 10:37, Ryan A wrote: Hey, I have been long enough on this list to know this shopping cart question comes up real often and irritates a lot of folks, but sorry, I have checked google and hotscripts and it has come down to a recommendation from YOU guys as they are SO many options out there with each cart most of which i will never need. Feel free to mention commercial products as I have been looking at them too, but if i go in for a commercial solution I will have to cut somewhere else as this is for myself and i'm starting out...budgets low and am trying to do everything myself, but dont have time to make this myself. Will be selling spare parts. I dont want a cart to do a million things, just around 10 :) 1. Admin panel where i enter quantity and it keeps track of inventry 2. Should be *fast* (php+mysql solution) 3.Intergrate with paypal+2checkout anything more is a bonus 4. Easy to template 5. Calculates shipping (not vital, but bonus if it does) 6. Should be able to give discounts based on price and accept discount codes. 7. Should offer the customers who bought this also bought feature 8. Easy to maintain OSC is the first cart that comes to mind, followed by Zen, xcart (xcart out of my budget though) Am leaning towards OSC for the price but its got an overload of bulk and speed problems... Please recommend, even a link to any site and a go to that f***ing site (the = of a RTFM) would be appreciated. Thanks! Ryan -- - The faulty interface lies between the chair and the keyboard. - Creativity is great, but plagiarism is faster! - Smile, everyone loves a moron. :-) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Larry GarfieldAIM: LOLG42 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 6817012 If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it. -- Thomas Jefferson -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Shopping cart
On 8/19/06, Larry Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OSCommerce is crap. Don't bother. Why do you say that, Larry? I may want to get into an app like that because I think one of my clients is ready for it. What are the cons, and what are my options? What are Drupal's limitations? TIA Gerry -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Granted, the shopping cart/credit card processing modules I've been required to write have not been massively complex, but I am still a bit baffled why so many fully qualified programmers automatically leap to Xcart, OSCommerce, and other such solutions when shopping carts are not at all difficult to write. I've found the third party jobbers I've looked at to be messy code-wise, and that's being polite. If you have anything custom to do, if the cart doesn't work just the way you want it, you'll spend more time trying to get OS and X doing what you want then just writing it yourself. But that's just my opinion. Gerry D wrote: On 8/19/06, Larry Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OSCommerce is crap. Don't bother. Why do you say that, Larry? I may want to get into an app like that because I think one of my clients is ready for it. What are the cons, and what are my options? What are Drupal's limitations? TIA Gerry -- Skip Evans Big Sky Penguin, LLC 61 W Broadway Butte, Montana 59701 406-782-2240 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Shopping cart
Agreed... -Original Message- From: Skip Evans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 8:25 AM To: Gerry D Cc: Larry Garfield; php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Shopping cart Granted, the shopping cart/credit card processing modules I've been required to write have not been massively complex, but I am still a bit baffled why so many fully qualified programmers automatically leap to Xcart, OSCommerce, and other such solutions when shopping carts are not at all difficult to write. I've found the third party jobbers I've looked at to be messy code-wise, and that's being polite. If you have anything custom to do, if the cart doesn't work just the way you want it, you'll spend more time trying to get OS and X doing what you want then just writing it yourself. But that's just my opinion. Gerry D wrote: On 8/19/06, Larry Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OSCommerce is crap. Don't bother. Why do you say that, Larry? I may want to get into an app like that because I think one of my clients is ready for it. What are the cons, and what are my options? What are Drupal's limitations? TIA Gerry -- Skip Evans Big Sky Penguin, LLC 61 W Broadway Butte, Montana 59701 406-782-2240 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Shopping cart
On Sunday 20 August 2006 20:17, Gerry D wrote: On 8/19/06, Larry Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OSCommerce is crap. Don't bother. Why do you say that, Larry? I may want to get into an app like that because I think one of my clients is ready for it. What are the cons, and what are my options? What are Drupal's limitations? I tried using it for a client last summer, because it was available free on the client's web host. It is extremely rigid. If you want a program that works the way they want and looks kinda like Buy.com with a table-based layout in 3 columns with certain visual effects, it's fine. If you want to change or customize anything, good luck. Nearly everything is hard coded with HTML and presentation PHP and business logic PHP all mixed in together. With a table based layout. Ugh. As for using pre-build vs. rolling your own, the main reason I favor ready-made is the bank hookups. Anytime financial stuff is involved, I'd rather use something someone else already debugged than roll my own. -- Larry Garfield AIM: LOLG42 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 6817012 If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it. -- Thomas Jefferson -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Shopping cart
OSCommerce is crap. Don't bother. obligatory plug The Drupal CMS has a complete suite of ecommerce modules that work with it. I've not worked with it recently, but if you just need a straightforward shopping cart it should be fine. http://drupal.org/ http://drupal.org/project/ecommerce All GPLed. /obligatory plug On Saturday 19 August 2006 10:37, Ryan A wrote: Hey, I have been long enough on this list to know this shopping cart question comes up real often and irritates a lot of folks, but sorry, I have checked google and hotscripts and it has come down to a recommendation from YOU guys as they are SO many options out there with each cart most of which i will never need. Feel free to mention commercial products as I have been looking at them too, but if i go in for a commercial solution I will have to cut somewhere else as this is for myself and i'm starting out...budgets low and am trying to do everything myself, but dont have time to make this myself. Will be selling spare parts. I dont want a cart to do a million things, just around 10 :) 1. Admin panel where i enter quantity and it keeps track of inventry 2. Should be *fast* (php+mysql solution) 3.Intergrate with paypal+2checkout anything more is a bonus 4. Easy to template 5. Calculates shipping (not vital, but bonus if it does) 6. Should be able to give discounts based on price and accept discount codes. 7. Should offer the customers who bought this also bought feature 8. Easy to maintain OSC is the first cart that comes to mind, followed by Zen, xcart (xcart out of my budget though) Am leaning towards OSC for the price but its got an overload of bulk and speed problems... Please recommend, even a link to any site and a go to that f***ing site (the = of a RTFM) would be appreciated. Thanks! Ryan -- - The faulty interface lies between the chair and the keyboard. - Creativity is great, but plagiarism is faster! - Smile, everyone loves a moron. :-) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Larry Garfield AIM: LOLG42 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 6817012 If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it. -- Thomas Jefferson -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Shopping Cart, security concerns
No, I would not have prices in the hidden fields. :-) Thanks though for the concern. I do have a few questions about easiest / best way to write this. Especially as I don't have PHP experience, meaning it takes me longer to write the code and more importantly I might miss something important. == Shopping Cart display Item Qty (allow user to change or delete) Item ID (added to session variable by hidden field) Item Name (added to session variable by hidden field) Item Desc Short (added to session variable by hidden field) Item Price (hardcoded. I hate this but it would be pulled from a file or hardcoded - an if else clause. If itemID = 1 then price = x) Page 1 (Shipping Info: Name, Address...) Info forwarded to page two in hidden fields) Page 2 (Billing Address: Name, Address ...) Info forwarded to page three in hidden fields Page 3 - confirmation page Page 4 (CC info) Page 5 (Hidden from consumer Security Check Page) Qty * Price = Qty Tax recalculated Shipping recalculated Relevant data sent to merchant and distributor company Thanks -Original Message- From: Richard Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 10:52 PM To: mayo Cc: 'php' Subject: RE: [PHP] Shopping Cart, security concerns On Sat, May 14, 2005 6:30 am, mayo said: I have to say it's a pretty simple project. The don't want to keep any information in a db. (!!??!!) Info will be sent to a merchant services account and to the distributor which will process the form. Info will be kept in hidden fields input type=hidden ... and in session variables then sent off. Don't put anything you *NEED* to be correct/accurate in type=hidden The web surfer can *CHANGE* that in about 5 seconds and send whatever they want. All your prices, all you shipping costs, all the weights, etc had better be in your PHP source code, as arrays, I guess... You'd really be better off just using a database with an existing cart. The amount of code you'll have to write to do this correctly is insane. They have three products (it may rise to 5) and everything will be hardcoded as there are no size or color variations. I told them that it's not advisable to have everything hardcoded but the client insists there is no reason to pull anything from a database. The on-site graphics/web designer person will make the changes. He is competent to do that and did a good job with the basic design. But you CANNOT put your prices in type=hidden fields!!! That's EXACTLY how you get a shopping cart where the user changes the price! This is not my very first foray into PHP but first time doing something more complicated than 1. if person has this permission then show A else show B or 2. if person is on page 1 then show page 1 as bold else show page 1 as normal -- Like Music? http://l-i-e.com/artists.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Shopping Cart, security concerns
On Fri, May 13, 2005 8:26 pm, mayo said: I'm making my first shopping cart in PHP. I'm concerned about the security of my session variables, concerned about people altering data (lowering the price). Is there anything I should pay attention to. There are approximately 247 other PHP shopping carts out there. Maybe you'd be better off just installing one of them. Certainly, you should read the source code to several. Your session variables are at-risk on a shared server, usually; And not so much on a dedicated server. Or, more properly, on a dedicated server, if your session data isn't safe, you've got MUCH bigger problems than just your session data. As far as changing the price goes, just don't take the price as an INPUT from your cart/form. The only variables you need to accept from the user in the shopping cart itself are: $product_id and $quantity. For the fulfillment, maybe some location data like $country, $region, $postal to calculate shipping, and then their credit card info. Honestly, setting up a script to accept people's credit card numbers as your very first PHP project is probably not a particularly Good Idea... You can't absorb all the ins and outs of security overnight... Just my opinion. Perhaps you would be better served to install a pre-existing PHP shopping cart, and focus on making it secure and safe, rather than trying to write your own from scratch as well. -- Like Music? http://l-i-e.com/artists.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Shopping Cart, security concerns
I have to say it's a pretty simple project. The don't want to keep any information in a db. (!!??!!) Info will be sent to a merchant services account and to the distributor which will process the form. Info will be kept in hidden fields input type=hidden ... and in session variables then sent off. They have three products (it may rise to 5) and everything will be hardcoded as there are no size or color variations. I told them that it's not advisable to have everything hardcoded but the client insists there is no reason to pull anything from a database. The on-site graphics/web designer person will make the changes. He is competent to do that and did a good job with the basic design. This is not my very first foray into PHP but first time doing something more complicated than 1. if person has this permission then show A else show B or 2. if person is on page 1 then show page 1 as bold else show page 1 as normal Thanks -Original Message- From: Richard Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 1:54 AM To: mayo Cc: php Subject: Re: [PHP] Shopping Cart, security concerns On Fri, May 13, 2005 8:26 pm, mayo said: I'm making my first shopping cart in PHP. I'm concerned about the security of my session variables, concerned about people altering data (lowering the price). Is there anything I should pay attention to. There are approximately 247 other PHP shopping carts out there. Maybe you'd be better off just installing one of them. Certainly, you should read the source code to several. Your session variables are at-risk on a shared server, usually; And not so much on a dedicated server. Or, more properly, on a dedicated server, if your session data isn't safe, you've got MUCH bigger problems than just your session data. As far as changing the price goes, just don't take the price as an INPUT from your cart/form. The only variables you need to accept from the user in the shopping cart itself are: $product_id and $quantity. For the fulfillment, maybe some location data like $country, $region, $postal to calculate shipping, and then their credit card info. Honestly, setting up a script to accept people's credit card numbers as your very first PHP project is probably not a particularly Good Idea... You can't absorb all the ins and outs of security overnight... Just my opinion. Perhaps you would be better served to install a pre-existing PHP shopping cart, and focus on making it secure and safe, rather than trying to write your own from scratch as well. -- Like Music? http://l-i-e.com/artists.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Shopping Cart, security concerns
On Sat, May 14, 2005 6:30 am, mayo said: I have to say it's a pretty simple project. The don't want to keep any information in a db. (!!??!!) Info will be sent to a merchant services account and to the distributor which will process the form. Info will be kept in hidden fields input type=hidden ... and in session variables then sent off. Don't put anything you *NEED* to be correct/accurate in type=hidden The web surfer can *CHANGE* that in about 5 seconds and send whatever they want. All your prices, all you shipping costs, all the weights, etc had better be in your PHP source code, as arrays, I guess... You'd really be better off just using a database with an existing cart. The amount of code you'll have to write to do this correctly is insane. They have three products (it may rise to 5) and everything will be hardcoded as there are no size or color variations. I told them that it's not advisable to have everything hardcoded but the client insists there is no reason to pull anything from a database. The on-site graphics/web designer person will make the changes. He is competent to do that and did a good job with the basic design. But you CANNOT put your prices in type=hidden fields!!! That's EXACTLY how you get a shopping cart where the user changes the price! This is not my very first foray into PHP but first time doing something more complicated than 1. if person has this permission then show A else show B or 2. if person is on page 1 then show page 1 as bold else show page 1 as normal -- Like Music? http://l-i-e.com/artists.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Shopping Cart Solutions
As everyone has said osCommerce is a good cart program, but if you need a serious customized solution then you are going to need to either spend your time foucsing on that app and get into it, or your going to want to find something a little less polished and more just foundation, not saying osCommerce doesnt have a good foundation, its just that its more of a finished and therefore has a more defined set of rules to work with it. FreeTrade is a good app, they have moved several times you'll have to google it. PHPShop I never really liked, more of a personal decision. Anyone have suggestions for open source shopping cart apps in PHP? Thanks, Charles _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Shopping Cart Solutions
I had been doign interchange back when it first changed names to Interchange, I havent used it since it was aquired by Redhat, no particular reason just personal preference. Here is the link to FreeTrade. I believe the Restoration Hardware site started with this code, they have since gone bigger and better, but its a great starting place. This is will get you a site up and running, but this is pretty much framework. http://share.whichever.com/index.php?SCREEN=freetrade From: Stephan Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] Shopping Cart Solutions Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 14:07:33 +0200 Well take a look into interchange. http://www.icdevgroup.org This Shop Engine has a nice demo catalog called foundation. Take it, adopt it and your set for the most of all things you want to achieve. There is a lill tutorial which guides you through the basics of interchange and leaves you with a skeletton but functional catalog after 3-4 hours of reading and typing. Installation is a bit tricky but I managed it though within a couple of hours of try and error. If you eventually pass that phase of learning you could do it easyliy again within 10 minutes. One thing left to mention: It´s Perl not PHP. But I´am on the issue to wrap it into a modul .. ;) Stephan Didier McGillis [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... As everyone has said osCommerce is a good cart program, but if you need a serious customized solution then you are going to need to either spend your time foucsing on that app and get into it, or your going to want to find something a little less polished and more just foundation, not saying osCommerce doesnt have a good foundation, its just that its more of a finished and therefore has a more defined set of rules to work with it. FreeTrade is a good app, they have moved several times you'll have to google it. PHPShop I never really liked, more of a personal decision. Anyone have suggestions for open source shopping cart apps in PHP? Thanks, Charles _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Shopping Cart Solutions
loads at hotscripts.com http://www.hotscripts.com/PHP/Scripts_and_Programs/E-Commerce/index.html Adrian Teasdale wrote: Charles Try oscommerce.org - it's an open source app written in PHP that has a fantastic community and is incredibly feature-rich. I'm not associated with the project, but I have used it Best regards Ade Sourceguardian.com -Original Message- From: Charles Kline [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 September 2003 21:10 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] Shopping Cart Solutions Anyone have suggestions for open source shopping cart apps in PHP? Thanks, Charles -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Shopping Cart Solutions
I'll give a big +2 to all of this. I spent a great deal of time writing a program for customizing various aspects of osCommerce. After a while, I just dropped the project because it was becoming a tangled web of code and not at all my style. Edward Dudlik Becoming Digital www.becomingdigital.com - Original Message - From: Chris W. Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Charles Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 22 September, 2003 18:21 Subject: RE: [PHP] Shopping Cart Solutions Henrik Hudson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Monday, September 22, 2003 3:09 PM said: My 2 cents. OSCommerce is great if you want to use it out of the box, but we tried to extend it and alter some of it's functions and the code is very obtuse and making changes in one spot can lead to problems in others. +1 I messed around with it for a few days just trying to add two fields to the product table but it so difficult to find where all the mysql db errors were being generated I just gave up and decided to write my own cart from scratch. ;) I should clarify a little. I gave up after only trying to add two fields because the other features that I needed in a shopping cart were WAY more complicated than the two fields and I reasoned that if it was that difficult to add two fields it's going to be near impossible to add what I wanted. So I decided my time would be better spent developing my own cart (what learning experience it's been!!). I would be able to extend my own cart much more quickly and efficiently than I could anyone elses code. Also, it tries to throw in the kitchen-sink worth of options and if you need something slimmer or more easily configured you might be better off starting from another codebase. +1 Chris. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Shopping Cart Solutions
Anyone have suggestions for open source shopping cart apps in PHP? Check out sourceforge.net...there are many there. Also try google and you will get tons of info. -- Ray -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Shopping Cart Solutions
Charles Try oscommerce.org - it's an open source app written in PHP that has a fantastic community and is incredibly feature-rich. I'm not associated with the project, but I have used it Best regards Ade Sourceguardian.com -Original Message- From: Charles Kline [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 September 2003 21:10 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] Shopping Cart Solutions Anyone have suggestions for open source shopping cart apps in PHP? Thanks, Charles -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Shopping Cart Solutions
On Monday 22 September 2003 15:42, Adrian Teasdale wrote: Charles Try oscommerce.org - it's an open source app written in PHP that has a fantastic community and is incredibly feature-rich. I'm not associated with the project, but I have used it My 2 cents. OSCommerce is great if you want to use it out of the box, but we tried to extend it and alter some of it's functions and the code is very obtuse and making changes in one spot can lead to problems in others. Also, it tries to throw in the kitchen-sink worth of options and if you need something slimmer or more easily configured you might be better off starting from another codebase. That being said..if you're looking for an OSS program which works well for what it's meant to be..a full featured shopping cart solution..then look no further. Henrik -- Henrik Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] `If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.' --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Shopping Cart Solutions
Henrik Hudson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Monday, September 22, 2003 3:09 PM said: My 2 cents. OSCommerce is great if you want to use it out of the box, but we tried to extend it and alter some of it's functions and the code is very obtuse and making changes in one spot can lead to problems in others. +1 I messed around with it for a few days just trying to add two fields to the product table but it so difficult to find where all the mysql db errors were being generated I just gave up and decided to write my own cart from scratch. ;) I should clarify a little. I gave up after only trying to add two fields because the other features that I needed in a shopping cart were WAY more complicated than the two fields and I reasoned that if it was that difficult to add two fields it's going to be near impossible to add what I wanted. So I decided my time would be better spent developing my own cart (what learning experience it's been!!). I would be able to extend my own cart much more quickly and efficiently than I could anyone elses code. Also, it tries to throw in the kitchen-sink worth of options and if you need something slimmer or more easily configured you might be better off starting from another codebase. +1 Chris. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] shopping cart and login system
Actually you can do it the way you suggest. I'm in the process of doing it also. I have yet to test the system but it should work provided that you follow the PayPal system, I already have my cart working so I think I just need another form like this one with the PHP variables as carried from my previous cart session. Should be easy by the looks of it. (watch for wrap): http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_help-exteloc=762unique_id=02 413source_page=_homeflow= Steve Jackson Web Development and Marketing Manager Viola Systems Ltd. http://www.violasystems.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile +358 50 343 5159 -Original Message- From: electroteque [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15. kesäkuuta 2003 6:33 To: olinux; Jeff Harris Cc: Php-General Subject: RE: [PHP] shopping cart and login system yes i know about that but then the whole basket/cart system is out of your hands i prefer to send the total with the products and quantities or can you not do that ? if not i guess adding the individual items to their basket is the only way the IPN system is confusing aswell :| -Original Message- From: Jeff Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 1:31 PM To: olinux Cc: electroteque; Php-General Subject: Re: [PHP] shopping cart and login system On Jun 14, 2003, olinux claimed that: |hi | |--- electroteque [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | hi there , i am about to build a shopping cart which | will interact with a | paypal payment system , the cart will use sessions | to store the items and | basket information before checking out and posting | to the paypal form , what | i'd like to know is would the cart require a login | system to track users and | to prevent ppl from making dodgy orders , | |if pure simplicity is a goal, i dont think you need a |login for customers. who cares if they add items and |then dont purchase. obviously they would not be able |to log in again to see the previous orders or current |order status but you could always implement later. Actually, to be more simple, for paypal paying customers, I would use paypal's buy it now buttons. Let them deal with the shopping carts and sessions. http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/xcl/rec/singleitem- intro-outside -- Registered Linux user #304026. lynx -source http://jharris.rallycentral.us/jharris.asc | gpg --import Key fingerprint = 52FC 20BD 025A 8C13 5FC6 68C6 9CF9 46C2 B089 0FED Responses to this message should conform to RFC 1855. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] shopping cart and login system
hi --- electroteque [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi there , i am about to build a shopping cart which will interact with a paypal payment system , the cart will use sessions to store the items and basket information before checking out and posting to the paypal form , what i'd like to know is would the cart require a login system to track users and to prevent ppl from making dodgy orders , if pure simplicity is a goal, i dont think you need a login for customers. who cares if they add items and then dont purchase. obviously they would not be able to log in again to see the previous orders or current order status but you could always implement later. if not can a session easily be hijacked at all ? easily? i dont think so can it be done? sure better still is there anyone out there who has intergrated their users with the paypal login, so say they login to your shopping cart to start making payments they are alreayd logged into paypal aswell this would be ideal :D I'm sure you already tried hotscripts.com - maybe paypal has a developer section similar to amazon? but i would guess that they dont want people routing their passwords thru other websites. __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] shopping cart and login system
On Jun 14, 2003, olinux claimed that: |hi | |--- electroteque [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | hi there , i am about to build a shopping cart which | will interact with a | paypal payment system , the cart will use sessions | to store the items and | basket information before checking out and posting | to the paypal form , what | i'd like to know is would the cart require a login | system to track users and | to prevent ppl from making dodgy orders , | |if pure simplicity is a goal, i dont think you need a |login for customers. who cares if they add items and |then dont purchase. obviously they would not be able |to log in again to see the previous orders or current |order status but you could always implement later. Actually, to be more simple, for paypal paying customers, I would use paypal's buy it now buttons. Let them deal with the shopping carts and sessions. http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/xcl/rec/singleitem-intro-outside -- Registered Linux user #304026. lynx -source http://jharris.rallycentral.us/jharris.asc | gpg --import Key fingerprint = 52FC 20BD 025A 8C13 5FC6 68C6 9CF9 46C2 B089 0FED Responses to this message should conform to RFC 1855. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] shopping cart and login system
yes i know about that but then the whole basket/cart system is out of your hands i prefer to send the total with the products and quantities or can you not do that ? if not i guess adding the individual items to their basket is the only way the IPN system is confusing aswell :| -Original Message- From: Jeff Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 1:31 PM To: olinux Cc: electroteque; Php-General Subject: Re: [PHP] shopping cart and login system On Jun 14, 2003, olinux claimed that: |hi | |--- electroteque [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | hi there , i am about to build a shopping cart which | will interact with a | paypal payment system , the cart will use sessions | to store the items and | basket information before checking out and posting | to the paypal form , what | i'd like to know is would the cart require a login | system to track users and | to prevent ppl from making dodgy orders , | |if pure simplicity is a goal, i dont think you need a |login for customers. who cares if they add items and |then dont purchase. obviously they would not be able |to log in again to see the previous orders or current |order status but you could always implement later. Actually, to be more simple, for paypal paying customers, I would use paypal's buy it now buttons. Let them deal with the shopping carts and sessions. http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/xcl/rec/singleitem-intro-outside -- Registered Linux user #304026. lynx -source http://jharris.rallycentral.us/jharris.asc | gpg --import Key fingerprint = 52FC 20BD 025A 8C13 5FC6 68C6 9CF9 46C2 B089 0FED Responses to this message should conform to RFC 1855. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Shopping Cart
Shopping Carts are pretty easy to write. Just make a new table in your mysql DB and then write a session_id together with the sku and name, color, size, quantity and maybe customer_id into the the new shoppingcart table. When you want to show the shopping carts content just do an select from the carts table. As I save the prices into an extra table I do a SELECT * FROM basket, price, item WHERE basket.sku = item.sku AND item.price = price.key Later i use a price.q1 field and multiply it with the quantity of the item to get the full price. Hope this helps you a little. Sascha - Original Message - From: Chris Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 10:35 PM Subject: [PHP] Shopping Cart Hello everybody, I am interested in designing a site with a shopping cart. I have several years of programming experience in php and perl, but I have never made a shopping cart. I was looking into some of the already made shopping carts and was wondering what peoples' experiences have been with already made shopping carts. Ultimately, I am wondering whether I should code it from scratch or not. Thanks in advance for any help, Chris _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Shopping Cart Credit Card Verification
The solution you choose for credit card verification depends on a number of things: - how much control you want over look feel - whether you are rolling your own shopping cart I happen to use Authorize.Net, which allows you to control the entire process maintain the look feel you desire: http://www.authorize.net/ But there are lots of other solutions. If you want to email me with more details of what you are looking for, I'd be glad to try to help. -- JR -Original Message- From: Josiah Peters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 01:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] Shopping Cart Credit Card Verification I sure hope this is the correct mailing list. I have been struggling with this problem for quite some time. Does anyone know a way to verify credit card information in real time with your bank over the internet in say a shopping cart? Joey Peters _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmailxAPID=42PS=47575PI=7324; DI=7474SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsgHL=1216hotmailtaglines_stopmorespam_3m f -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Shopping Cart Credit Card Verification
see at http://verisign.com two services are available: payflo link payflow pro regards, -- Few are those who see with their own eyes and feel with their own hearts. Albert Einstein - Maciek Ruckaber Bielecki On Mon, 30 Dec 2002, Josiah Peters wrote: I sure hope this is the correct mailing list. I have been struggling with this problem for quite some time. Does anyone know a way to verify credit card information in real time with your bank over the internet in say a shopping cart? Joey Peters _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmailxAPID=42PS=47575PI=7324DI=7474SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsgHL=1216hotmailtaglines_stopmorespam_3mf -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] shopping cart, inventory control, point of sale system
A web based interface is pretty slow for POS isn't it??? phpshop.org might be a good start on the other two... justin on 17/10/02 11:56 PM, Daniel Negron/KBE ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: can anyone point me in the direction of a good system that will cover all 3 of these points (Shopping Cart, Inventory Control, and Point of Sale) ? Thank you, **DAN** -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] shopping cart question
On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, Jon Feldhammer wrote: The way I see it, there are three options for maintaining state in php I've already taken the route of keeping a random session id and putting it into a database to track a user/cart So the only variable i need to track is the session id The three options I know of then are: Did I understand correctly you are implementing your own session handling? Why not use PHP's native sessions? http://wwwphpnet/manual/en/refsessionphp search engines like these) Also, with option 1 you need to have a ?php echo ?session_id=$session_id ? type line in every href which is a pain in the ass Option 2 is great, if the user uses cookies, if not, you cannot This can be automated with --enable-trans-sid -- Mika Tuupola http://wwwappelsiininet/~tuupola/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://wwwphpnet/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://wwwphpnet/unsubphp
RE: [PHP] Shopping cart search
http://www.hotscripts.com/PHP/ Jeff Oien http://www.webdesigns1.com/php/ Can someone pass on the URL for searching for PHP shopping cart programs and shopping cart related questions. Many thanks... Todd -- Todd Cary Ariste Software [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Shopping cart search
Todd Cary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone pass on the URL for searching for PHP shopping cart programs and shopping cart related questions. google.com? Or search the php list archives at http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/. Many thanks... Here are some shopping carts written in PHP. I don't know of a message board or mailing list dedicated to shopping carts. http://www.theexchangeproject.org/ http://www.fishcart.org/ -- Steve Werby President, Befriend Internet Services LLC http://www.befriend.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Shopping cart search
Many thanks to all. Exactly what I need!! Todd -- Todd Cary Ariste Software [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] Shopping cart search
You may wish to check here for comparsons: http://www.l-i-e.com/compare/ Plus, there was a discussion set up in onelist - phpcart. It's idle now but may be searchable. Best regards, Andrew Hill Director of Technology Evangelism OpenLink Software http://www.openlinksw.com Universal Data Access Data Integration Technology Providers -Original Message- From: Todd Cary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 11:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] Shopping cart search Can someone pass on the URL for searching for PHP shopping cart programs and shopping cart related questions. Many thanks... Todd -- Todd Cary Ariste Software [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] shopping cart classes
Seems to be good enough for NASA. :) -Original Message- From: Chris Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 1:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] shopping cart classes I found the same as you, I wrote some classes of my own. have you done much with postgres ? Ive used mySQL alot here and am not happy with the stability, postgres (beta) seems to be faster but havent used it in products so cant comment on stability. Im curious. -- Chris Lee Mediawaveonline.com em. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ph. 250.377.1095 ph. 250.376.2690 fx. 250.554.1120 "Randall Perry" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I've checked out the shopping cart packages available for PHP and am not thrilled by any of them. Was wondering if there are a set of classes available that could be used to support a shopping cart. I'm interested in the 'back end' -- working with the actual data, rather than the front end -- the user interface. Want to build it with php + mySQL or PostgreSQL. I want complete freedom to build the interface but don't want to reinvent the wheel for credit card validation, online credit card processing, shipping calculation, etc. I've built a simple shopping cart for a site currently under construction. This uses a combination of javascript and php, and doesn't use database (less than 1 dozen items). You can see an example (excuse the mess) by going to: http://www.bhagavati.com/trial/mainframe.htm and clicking the 'order' link in the navbar frame at the top. HINT: close movie window as soon as it opens. Randy Perry sysTame Mac Consulting/Sales -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Shopping Cart Schema - Sessions
JB wrote: I also forgot to mention. I am leaning towards using GET to send the session ids. Many people have told me that customer penatration decreases, some Which people? What facts do they have to support their claims? Is this a bigger problem than distrust in credit card security? Is it a bigger problem than poorly designed shops where people never finalizes their deals? times significantly, when requiring cookies to use the cart. How would this have an effect on my script? i will have to call the sessid in all of my links, correct? That is done automatically by PHP 4.x when using the correct settings, but I can't remember them. There might even be a method for asserting if a user digs cookies or not, and thus based on that set the correct run time status. What I really wanted to pounce on was the customer penetration mentioned. Does anyone have numbers/research on the following: How many don't like to use credit cards on line? How many turn off cookies? How many fear cookies? I feel that for the majority of people cookies are not an issue, probably due to lack of knowledge, or an attitude that it serves a purpose. If your shop is aimed towards fringe groups (like geeks) that sceptic group might be large. If your shop aims at the general population I'm pretty sure that most leave their cookies on because it makes their webmail easier to use, their accounts at amazon easier to use, etc. When in doubt, follow the stream... Check out this, Amazon uses cookies, Amazon does a lot of business. Do you really feel that Amazon misses out on a lot of customers? Do you know of any large websites doing shopping carts which doesn't rely on cookies? Finally the biggest obstacle might be credit card usage (lots of negative hype) or product cost, who wants to use cc for really cheap stuff? Even more finally, sorry that I can't shore up my thoughts with any good facts either, I just felt like questioning the statement since I feel that it isn't neccessary the full truth. -- Paul K Egell-Johnsen Utvikler/PR Manager eZ systems as http://ez.no/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Shopping Cart Schema - Sessions
JB wrote: I also forgot to mention. I am leaning towards using GET to send the session ids. Many people have told me that customer penatration decreases, some times significantly, when requiring cookies to use the cart. How would this have an effect on my script? i will have to call the sessid in all of my links, correct? Here is the info you asked for originally:) http://www.php.net/manual/ref.session.php You'll need to have the sessid in all links, php does this for you (PHP4) automatically. It also discusses the problem you mention, that browsers aren't obliged to accept cookies and that get is needed. -- Paul K Egell-Johnsen Utvikler/PR Manager eZ systems as http://ez.no/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Shopping Cart Schema - Sessions
Hi Jason!
On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Jason Beebe wrote:
Hey,
I'm looking for little information from those who have coded their own shopping cart
apps. what would you say the best way to setup a cart would be? more specificly, the
method for adding items to the cart.
eww, lost wrapping ...
say the user is broswing around. when they entered the website a new session was
created. when they go to add an item, what is the best way store variables (such as
what they bought and quantity) in the session. i have read that it is possible to put
all of your session variables in a single associative array. however, i have not had
any luck doing this myself. Under such a method of an array, how would i store each
item (product id and quantity, possibly price as well) in the cart into the session.
obviously i don't expect anyone to write an entire app. i am comfortable starting the
session, and doing th db extraction and presentation. i just need to know how to
store a variable in a session (passed through post) and how to extract it when need
be (considering it is an array). Thanks a lot!
I codded a shopping cart which allowed `thin sessions' and `fat sessions'.
Thin would mean I store only the IDs, then retrieve the rest of the
information about the product from the DB (more DB queries, but smaller
session data), while `fat' would mean I store all the data I need to display
when the user invetories his/her cart, namely name, price |short desc.,
quantity.
Some code snippets would be:
if (!$SES-isRegistered ('cart.object')) {
$CART = new Cart();
$CART-setLanguage (CART_LANGUAGE);
$SES-setAttribute ('cart.object', $CART);
}
$CART = $SES-getAttribute ('cart.object');
then go ahead and use the cart object:
...
$CART-addItem ($sku, 1, new Product($arr_attr));
$CART-dropItem ($sku);
And the Product class has among others, these two methods:
__setStorageType ($t)
{
if ($t == CART_FAT_SESS) {
$this-_slots = array_keys (get_object_vars ($this));
unset ($this-_slots['_desc']);
}
}
function __sleep ()
{
return (isset ($this-_slots) ? $this-_slots : array ('_quant'));
}
This is in the manner of Session class from PHPLIB which records what is to
be saved in the session (in this case, what attributes.)
And the Cart class has:
function __wakeup ()
{
if ($this-STORAGE == CART_THIN_SESS) {
$pr_attrs = Cart::getItemsAttr (array_keys($this-_items));
foreach ($pr_attrs as $sku = $attrs) {
$attrs['quant'] = $this-_items[$sku]-getQuantity();
$this-_items[$sku] = new Product ($attrs);
}
}
}
Note that __sleep() and __wakeup() are PHP serialisation hooks, which can customize
the marshalling/unmarshalling process (e.g. restore DB connections, etc.)
cheers,
-- teodor
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