Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
kidstypike wrote: > Is this a reply to a previous post? :oThat's why I quoted your post before > you deleted it.[emoji3] Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
slartibartfast wrote: > Maybe it is just from Tapatalk that I can't do it then. All I can do is > edit and if I delete all the text it doesn't allow it. > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk Is this a reply to a previous post? :o *Server - LMS 8.0.0 *Pi4B 4GB/Flirc case/pCP 6.0.0 18K library, playlists & LMS cache on SSD (ntfs) *Study -* Pi3B+/pCP 5.0.0/pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/jivelite, *Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 5.0.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > AudioEngine DAC1 > AVI DM5 *Dining Room* - Squeezebox Boom *Garage* - Squeezebox Touch > Edifier R980T *Spares* - 1xTouch, 1xSB3, 1xRadio, 7xRPi kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
kidstypike wrote: > Yes it's possible to delete your *own* posts. > > 29730Maybe it is just from Tapatalk that I can't do it then. All I can do is edit and if I delete all the text or doesn't allow it. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
slartibartfast wrote: > Is it possible to delete posts? > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk Yes it's possible to delete your *own* posts. 29730 +---+ |Filename: delete.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=29730| +---+ *Server - LMS 8.0.0 *Pi4B 4GB/Flirc case/pCP 6.0.0 18K library, playlists & LMS cache on SSD (ntfs) *Study -* Pi3B+/pCP 5.0.0/pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/jivelite, *Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 5.0.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > AudioEngine DAC1 > AVI DM5 *Dining Room* - Squeezebox Boom *Garage* - Squeezebox Touch > Edifier R980T *Spares* - 1xTouch, 1xSB3, 1xRadio, 7xRPi kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
bpa wrote: > AFAICT The last mention of "proxied" in a post in this thread was in > 2017. Perhaps there was a deleted post.Is it possible to delete posts? Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
slartibartfast wrote: > Is this a reply to a previous post? AFAICT The last mention of "proxied" in a post in this thread was in 2017. Perhaps there was a deleted post. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
kellso wrote: > What are you talking about? BBC iPlayer plugin always relays data > through the LMS server, so any perceived improvement turning on/off > proxied playback is either imagined or an accidental coincidence with > some other change eg. broadband or BBC issues. "Placebo effect" is a > good shorthand for that. If you actually think something else is going > on inside LMS and the plugin then you are wrong, bpa knows what he's > talking about.Is this a reply to a previous post? Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
What are you talking about? BBC iPlayer plugin always relays data through the LMS server, so any perceived improvement turning on/off proxied playback is either imagined or an accidental coincidence with some other change eg. broadband or BBC issues. "Placebo effect" is a good shorthand for that. If you actually think something else is going on inside LMS and the plugin then you are wrong, bpa knows what he's talking about. kellso's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69129 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
mavit wrote: > If the old plugin versions dont work, then is there any reason to keep > them around? No reason on my side. User don't like change forced on them. > Is it time to copy the contents of betarelease-repo.xml over the top of > repo-short.xml? Forcing an update on a user who has a out of date URL usually results in hand holding to understand what is happening. The alternative is to delete the repo. In the past when I deleted repos - I got squeals where some users do not want to migrate of fear of the unknown and their LMS flags an error which is also upsetting. Now I try to get them to move by changing the banner message into something vaguely apocalyptic until eventually there are very few downloads - then I delete. The repo-short.xml (and a few others such as the five 1.4.10 users and the five 1.6.0 users) users are hardcore remainers and so I let sleeping dogs lie - less work for me. > Does Sourceforge support redirects or symlinks? No. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
bpa wrote: > "beta" referred to the BBC who at the time were beta testing DASH. Ah, I must admit I hadnt realised this. I see that I still have both repos configured, in the expectation that one day a non-beta release of the BBCiPlayer plugin would appear. bpa wrote: > > The plugins which are installed from the repo at the start of this > thread don't even work - which means users have installed plugins they > don't use. I have changed repo banner which appears in the plugin tab to > say it is out of date - but still it is used. If the old plugin versions dont work, then is there any reason to keep them around? Is it time to copy the contents of betarelease-repo.xml over the top of repo-short.xml? Does Sourceforge support redirects or symlinks? mavit's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10203 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
mavit wrote: > To be fair, the newer URL does have the word "beta" in it, so I can > understand why some people would assume they should be sticking with the > old one. But, I guess if you changed it you'd just end up with yet > another out of date URL. "beta" referred to the BBC who at the time were beta testing DASH. The plugins which are installed from the repo at the start of this thread don't even work - which means users have installed plugins they don't use. I have changed repo banner which appears in the plugin tab to say it is out of date - but still it is used. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
bpa wrote: > OK - just checking as the repo URL at the top of this thread is out of > date points to an old out of date version yet the repo is downloaded > over 2000 times /day. To be fair, the newer URL does have the word "beta" in it, so I can understand why some people would assume they should be sticking with the old one. But, I guess if you changed it you'd just end up with yet another out of date URL. mavit's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10203 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
mavit wrote: > Although I see that the metadata collection is different for each, this > seems to affect both. Yes but as slartibartfast points out - this issue affects many other URLs so it is not unusual behaviour in terms of LMS - not sure if that means it is not really a bug or not.. In fact it ties into the "More info" menu which has the same issue and as such is probably more significant. > Version 1.6.5, which I understand to be the latest. OK - just checking as the repo URL at the top of this thread is out of date points to an old out of date version yet the repo is downloaded over 2000 times /day. > Ill apologise now for when I forget and make the same mistake > again in six months time. Sorry. Don't worry I keep adding post to show the right thread but they get ignored. > Have you considered using a bug tracker for this sort of thing, such as > the ones built in to Sourceforge, GitHub, GitLab, etc..? Wouldn't help me. Users will still post where they like and I'd just have yet another place to check. > Indeed, I should have spelled out that this was a quick hack which > alleviated my immediate symptoms. I wanted to jot down what Id > discovered so far while it was fresh in my mind. Cross linking protocol handlers is dangerous as "iplayer://" can call "dash:// " and "dash://" can be setup to play independent of "iplayer://" (which I don't support but some users do it anyway) - there is too much opportunity for circular behaviour and crashes. The "dash" metadata handler will need to check the originating URL which caused the dash url to be used (e.g. playlist). bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
bpa wrote: > Is this live or listen again. Although I see that the metadata collection is different for each, this seems to affect both. bpa wrote: > What version of plugin are you using ? Version 1.6.5, which I understand to be the latest. bpa wrote: > This is an old thread that keeps getting resurrected. Ill apologise now for when I forget and make the same mistake again in six months time. Sorry. Have you considered using a bug tracker for this sort of thing, such as the ones built in to Sourceforge, GitHub, GitLab, etc..? bpa wrote: > > Looking at the Iplayer.pm code the first line of the getMetadataFor > routine is > > Code: > > > my ($type, $params) = $url =~ /iplayer:\/\/(live|aod)\?(.*)$/; > > > > > The process is dependent on the passed URL being "iplayer://" - I > think if I implement your changes a "dash://" url will be passed the > iPlayer getMetadataFor routine and so will not behave as expected in > all circumstances (e.g. skipping). Indeed, I should have spelled out that this was a quick hack which alleviated my immediate symptoms. I wanted to jot down what Id discovered so far while it was fresh in my mind. mavit's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10203 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
slartibartfast wrote: > My post was meant to show a link. > > h**p://192.168.0.10:9000/music/-142796448/cover.jpg > > Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk I understand. I think the handler has no good data so garbage is returned or there is no call to a handler and so the link to the Antenna is generated by LMS. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
bpa wrote: > I think it is garbage as there is no handler for dash metadata. The > plugin does some fancy footwork hiding playing dash:// and hls:// URLs > behind iplayer:// (which behaves as a playlist). The fancy footwork > has meant it can be tripped up in a few places. That said - try playing > a staton form a playlist ".pls" which has an icon and the same problem > arise as the playing track URL is not associated with the playlist icon > - the playlist URL is. > > I'm not going to look into this until the weekend - I'm trying to finish > up some other work.My post was meant to show a link. h**p://192.168.0.10:9000/music/-142796448/cover.jpg Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
slartibartfast wrote: > When playing Radio 2 from iPlayer the image in the left pane is > > http://192.168.0.10:9000/music/-142796448/cover.jpg > > if that helps. > > Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk I think it is garbage as there is no handler for dash metadata. The plugin does some fancy footwork hiding playing dash:// and hls:// URLs behind iplayer:// (which behaves as a playlist). The fancy footwork has meant it can be tripped up in a few places. That said - try playing a staton form a playlist ".pls" which has an icon and the same problem arise as the playing track URL is not associated with the playlist icon - the playlist URL is. I'm not going to look into this until the weekend - I'm trying to finish up some other work. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
bpa wrote: > IIRC Tune-in has a special handler so it seems ot be variation of the > smae problem > > Need to check does it happen with a plain mp3 /AAC streaming URLWhen playing > Radio 2 from iPlayer the image in the left pane is http://192.168.0.10:9000/music/-142796448/cover.jpg if that helps. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
slartibartfast wrote: > I see exactly the same thing when playing a tunein radio station so this > is not confined to the iPlayer plugin. Just play a live station then > click on it to open the context menu in the left panel of the default > web GUI and the image shown is the antenna. > > Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk IIRC Tune-in has a special handler so it seems ot be variation of the smae problem Need to check does it happen with a plain mp3 /AAC streaming URL bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
bpa wrote: > Please explain in more detail what you are doing. Is this live or > listen again. Metadata is obtained dynamically and can vary depending > on what format is available. > > My gut feeling is the solution is wrong - the dash:// protocol should > not have been called - there is an error in the handling. > > What version of plugin are you using ? > > This is an old thread that keeps getting resurrected. > In future please use the BBCiPlayer support thread. > https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109826-BBCiPlayer-V1-6-(and-higher)-amp-BBCiPlayerExtra-2-0-(and-higher)-SupportI > see exactly the same thing when playing a tunein radio station so this is not confined to the iPlayer plugin. Just play a live station then click on it to open the context menu in the left panel of the default web GUI and the image shown is the antenna. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
mavit wrote:
> I notice that when a programme is initially added to the playlist, more
> metadata is available for it than when it is playing. For example, in
> the Logitech Media Server web interface, clicking on the currently
> playing iPlayer programme in the right hand pane causes it to appear in
> the left hand pane with the programme artwork replaced by LMSs generic
> radio mast icon.
>
> This appears to be because, when a programme plays, the handler switches
> from Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer to Plugins::BBCiPlayer::DASH, and the
> latter class lacks a getMetadataFor() method. Adding the following to
> DASH.pm seems like a step in the right direction:
>
> >
Code:
> > sub getMetadataFor {
> my ($class, $client, $url) = @_;
> my $metadata = Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor(@_);
> $metadata->{'icon'} //= $class->getIcon($url);
> $metadata->{'cover'} //= $metadata->{'icon'};
> return $metadata;
> }
> >
Please explain in more detail what you are doing. Is this live or
listen again. Metadata is obtained dynamically and can vary depending
the what format is availbale.
My gut feeling is the solution is wrong - the dash:// protocol should
not have been called - there is an error in the handling.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
I notice that when a programme is initially added to the playlist, more
metadata is available for it than when it is playing. For example, in
the Logitech Media Server web interface, clicking on the currently
playing iPlayer programme in the right hand pane causes it to appear in
the left hand pane with the programme artwork replaced by LMSs generic
radio mast icon.
This appears to be because, when a programme plays, the handler switches
from Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer to Plugins::BBCiPlayer::DASH, and the
latter class lacks a getMetadataFor() method. Adding the following to
DASH.pm seems like a step in the right direction:
Code:
sub getMetadataFor {
my ($class, $client, $url) = @_;
my $metadata = Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor(@_);
$metadata->{'icon'} //= $class->getIcon($url);
$metadata->{'cover'} //= $metadata->{'icon'};
return $metadata;
}
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
bpa wrote: > Web GUI - power buttom > Remote control - power button. > > Don't use Phone apps but they must provide a way of stopping a stream or > "power off" of a player. > > Can you not stop the stream rather than just pausing it usually with a > long pause key press or clear playlist (which is only one item).Long press > probably works but I have just found that if I stop it using the Alexa skill then it does indeed stop, not pause so would be OK. Last night I think I used pause in Orange Squeeze which would explain the messages. In future I will use long press when using the app. The difference between pause and stop in normal use is so subtle it doesn't generally matter which is used except in cases like this. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
slartibartfast wrote: > I do have "Stop at power off" set and it works fine for the Radios but > how do I Power Off the Touch without using the touch screen? I normally > just pause it. Can it be powered off via a phone app? I think Power Off > may be a command in the Alexa skill. Web GUI - power buttom Remote control - power button. Don't use Phone apps but they must provide a way of stopping a stream or "power off" of a player. Can you not stop the stream rather than just pausing it usually with a long pause key press or clear playlist (which is only one item). bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
bpa wrote: > The usual fix is to change "Resume on Power on" setting to "Stop at > power off/ Remaion stopped at power on"I do have "Stop at power off" set and > it works fine for the Radios but how do I Power Off the Touch without using the touch screen? I normally just pause it. Can it be powered off via a phone app? I think Power Off may be a command in the Alexa skill. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
slartibartfast wrote: > This morning I used Alexa to tell the Touch to play not realising I had > played Radio 3 last night. Then I changed to Radio 2. So the first thing > played was Radio 3. The usual fix is to change "Resume on Power on" setting to "Stop at power off/ Remaion stopped at power on" bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
bpa wrote: > Ignore previous post - 9:30 is GMT which is 10:30 BST - so it look like > related to player pausing. > > How did you start playing this morning ? > > Power on and then select or something else. This morning I used Alexa to tell the Touch to play not realising I had played Radio 3 last night. Then I changed to Radio 2. So the first thing played was Radio 3. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
Ignore previous post - 9:30 is GMT which is 10:30 BST - so it look like related to player pausing. How did you start playing this morning ? Power on and then select or something else. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
slartibartfast wrote: > According to "What was that tune" I played Radio 3 on the touch at > 10.30pm last night ( not 9.30) and then Radio 2 at 9.26am this morning. Interesting - when did you last play R2 and how did you change ? I wonder if some info is not being deleted when channel gets changed. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
bpa wrote: > No BBCiPlayer plugin has never done that. Cancellation often happens > with "normal" MP3/AAC http streams is that if a stream is paused - TCP > and/or host server will break the connection - this behaviour can be > dependent service operator. However with chunked http over http 1.1 - > this doesn't happen as TCP connection doesn't have to persist. > > With DASH, the plugin tracks the chunks played and so if a stream is > paused and resumed - it will request the next chunk. For live stream > these are timestamped and so plugin will request a chunk that is now no > longer valid (currently more than 3 hrs old). With "Listn Again" chunk > are sequentlially numbered and playback could resume. > > Your log seems to indicates that playback was paused at 9:30pm on 2nd > Aug and resumed at about 9:25am the following day 3rd Aug - does that > seem reasonable ? According to "What was that tune" I played Radio 3 on the touch at 10.30pm last night ( not 9.30) and then Radio 2 at 9.26am this morning. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
slartibartfast wrote: > Do I remember correctly that if iPlayer is paused for more than a > certain time then the delay introduced is cancelled? No BBCiPlayer plugin has never done that. Cancellation often happens with "normal" MP3/AAC http streams is that if a stream is paused - TCP and/or host server will break the connection - this behaviour can be dependent service operator. However with chunked http over http 1.1 - this doesn't happen as TCP connection doesn't have to persist. With DASH, the plugin tracks the chunks played and so if a stream is paused and resumed - it will request the next chunk. For live stream these are timestamped and so plugin will request a chunk that is now no longer valid (currently more than 3 hrs old). With "Listn Again" chunk are sequentlially numbered and playback could resume. Your log seems to indicates that playback was paused at 9:30pm on 2nd Aug and resumed at about 9:25am the following day 3rd Aug - does that seem reasonable ? bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
bpa wrote: > The message time stamped at "18-08-03 09:25:51.3230" has a packet whose > stream time is 1533245414 which is "2 August 2018 21:30:14" > > Does your player stop or pause a stream on power off ? I have the players set to stop a stream at power off though I am not sure how this applies to the Touch as I don't use a power button and maybe only pause it. I have actually recently started using the Alexa app again and stopping playback on the Touch using that. Do I remember correctly that if iPlayer is paused for more than a certain time then the delay introduced is cancelled? Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
The message time stamped at "18-08-03 09:25:51.3230" has a packet whose stream time is 1533245414 which is "2 August 2018 21:30:14" Does your player stop or pause a stream on power off ? bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
bpa wrote: > The fix I had for invalid estimated delay was when the estimated delay > went negative due to fetching data before just as it was ready. Your > messages are different to this problem. > > 595 status code is a HTTP 1.1 is a connection problem and the message > indicates network connection to BBC broke and so fetch timed out. If > possible playback may continue but I think you'll then have a 25 sec > delay (i.e. no loss of audio). Any 5xx codes are related to BBC servers > or their CDN network. I don't understand jumping back 61 minutes after > a perhaps a few minutes delay - that feels like "time" went to GMT vs > BST. > > On a general point, BBC carries out maintenance/upgrades on weekends, > bank holiday and summer time - this usually only effects regions not > nationwide . Even though they use a CDN, big events (e.g. England world > cup, cricket, Royal weddings) especially TV can affect iPlayer delivery > and for sometime later.Here are a few examples of the "invalid delay" > messages. [18-08-03 09:25:51.3230] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor (567) Invalid estimated delay 39353 streamtime=1533245414 [18-08-03 09:25:51.3264] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor (567) Invalid estimated delay 39353 streamtime=1533245414 [18-08-03 09:25:51.5038] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor (567) Invalid estimated delay 39347 streamtime=1533245420 [18-08-03 09:25:51.8065] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor (567) Invalid estimated delay 39340 streamtime=1533245427 [18-08-03 09:25:51.8104] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor (567) Invalid estimated delay 39340 streamtime=1533245427 [18-08-03 09:25:51.8180] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor (567) Invalid estimated delay 39340 streamtime=1533245427 [18-08-03 09:25:51.8211] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor (567) Invalid estimated delay 39340 streamtime=1533245427 [18-08-03 09:25:52.8733] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor (567) Invalid estimated delay 39322 streamtime=1533245446 [18-08-03 09:25:53.1759] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor (567) Invalid estimated delay 39317 streamtime=1533245452 [18-08-03 09:25:53.1801] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor (567) Invalid estimated delay 39317 streamtime=1533245452 [18-08-03 09:25:53.1878] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor (567) Invalid estimated delay 39317 streamtime=1533245452 [18-08-03 09:25:53.1915] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor (567) Invalid estimated delay 39317 streamtime=1533245452 [18-08-03 09:26:02.0051] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor (567) Invalid estimated delay 39287 streamtime=1533245491 Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
slartibartfast wrote: > 1.5.4.5. Weirdly the other day I was listening to Radio 2 live and the > music stopped for a time, when it resumed it was delayed by 61 minutes. > Very strange. These warnings were occurring this morning with no delay. > > > I found a few other errors which may coincide with the 61 minute jump > back > > Plugins::BBCiPlayer::BBCOnAir::__ANON__ (188) error fetching BBCOnAir > data while playing so try fetching again [18-07-31 12:41:26.5131] > Plugins::BBCiPlayer::DASH::__ANON__ (797) Retrying after error fetching > [239537069] Status=595 Reason: No such device or address Fetch time > 24001 ms [18-07-31 12:41:26.9177] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::DASH::__ANON__ > (797) Retrying after error fetching [239537070] Status=595 Reason: No > such device or address Fetch time 24001 ms > > Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk The fix I had for invalid estimated delay was when the estimated delay went negative due to fetching data before just as it was ready. Your messages are different to this problem. 595 status code is a HTTP 1.1 is a connection problem and the message indicates network connection to BBC broke and so fetch timed out. If possible playback may continue but I think you'll then have a 25 sec delay (i.e. no loss of audio). Any 5xx codes are related to BBC servers or their CDN network. I don't understand jumping back 61 minutes after a perhaps a few minutes delay - that feels like "time" went to GMT vs BST. On a general point, BBC carries out maintenance/upgrades on weekends, bank holiday and summer time - this usually only effects regions not nationwide . Even though they use a CDN, big events (e.g. England world cup, cricket, Royal weddings) especially TV can affect iPlayer delivery and for sometime later. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
bpa wrote: > That is a sort of "warning" message I left in during development which > is produced when the estimated "delay" (i.e. time stamp of audio played > vs realtime) - I use it to detect when a user had paused or jumped back > so that metadata can be corrected. I allowed for some leeway and I > used to see it only occassionally - I think it was/is more prevalent > with UK higher speed listeners. I thought I updated the plugin but > perhaps only did my own. > > What version ?1.5.4.5. Weirdly the other day I was listening to Radio 2 live > and the music stopped for a time, when it resumed it was delayed by 61 minutes. Very strange. These warnings were occurring this morning with no delay. I found a few other errors which may coincide with the 61 minute jump back Plugins::BBCiPlayer::BBCOnAir::__ANON__ (188) error fetching BBCOnAir data while playing so try fetching again [18-07-31 12:41:26.5131] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::DASH::__ANON__ (797) Retrying after error fetching [239537069] Status=595 Reason: No such device or address Fetch time 24001 ms [18-07-31 12:41:26.9177] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::DASH::__ANON__ (797) Retrying after error fetching [239537070] Status=595 Reason: No such device or address Fetch time 24001 ms Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
slartibartfast wrote: > I seem to have hundreds of lines in the server log about "invalid > estimated delay" or similar. I am just curious why as the app is playing > perfectly and displaying the correct metadata. That is a sort of "warning" message I left in during development which is produced when the estimated "delay" (i.e. time stamp of audio played vs realtime) - I use it to detect when a user had paused or jumped back so that metadata can be corrected. I allowed for some leeway and I used to see it only occassionally - I think it was/is more prevalent with UK higher speed listeners. I thought I updated the plugin but perhaps only did my own. What version ? bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
I seem to have hundreds of lines in the server log about "invalid estimated delay" or similar. I am just curious why as the app is playing perfectly and displaying the correct metadata. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
bpa wrote: > Is there any reason why you run both LMS 7.8 and 7.9 ? My signature is out of date: The Allo Sparky is running LMS 7.9.1 Allo Sparky, LMS 7.8.0 > Piano 2.1 + Kali, Max2Play > AudioEngine 5 Raspberry Pi > LMS 7.9.0 [Mac Mini > LMS 7.7.5: retired (okay, I broke it)] Squeezebox Classic, resting iPad mini > Squeezepad Android phone > Squeezer iPhone > iPeng Airplay Bridge > SONY-SRS-X7 speaker nitram's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63775 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
nitram wrote: > It was 15. I've increased it to 35, but it still times out. With normal connection a reply will be received within 1 sec - it was necessary to double check setting was not set too low. I feel the problem is with the network/server setup which is why a test of non-LMS application (browser, wget, curl) using network is needed. It is strange since I am assuming LMS can access squeezenetwork OK (i.e. no relevant message in log file) . The usual source for this problem is DNS or a VPN as it is very specific to this group of URLs. edit: Is there any reason why you run both LMS 7.8 and 7.9 ? bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
It was 15. I've increased it to 35, but it still times out. Allo Sparky, LMS 7.8.0 > Piano 2.1 + Kali, Max2Play > AudioEngine 5 Raspberry Pi > LMS 7.9.0 [Mac Mini > LMS 7.7.5: retired (okay, I broke it)] Squeezebox Classic, resting iPad mini > Squeezepad Android phone > Squeezer iPhone > iPeng Airplay Bridge > SONY-SRS-X7 speaker nitram's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63775 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
If it is LMS specific - then the only setting I can think of would be the WebUI Setting/Advanced/Network Radio Station Timeout - it could be too small (this is the time LMS waits for a reply to the http/GET for the BBC xml URL) . What is the current value of this setting ? bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
Yes, I understand what you're suggesting I do. I will need to install an SSH-Shell first. I'll report back when I have fresh information. Thanks :) Allo Sparky, LMS 7.8.0 > Piano 2.1 + Kali, Max2Play > AudioEngine 5 Raspberry Pi > LMS 7.9.0 [Mac Mini > LMS 7.7.5: retired (okay, I broke it)] Squeezebox Classic, resting iPad mini > Squeezepad Android phone > Squeezer iPhone > iPeng Airplay Bridge > SONY-SRS-X7 speaker nitram's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63775 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
nitram wrote: > Oh, I thought you were suggesting that the router might be blocking the > URL. I am running LMS in an Allo Sparky, with Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS and > Max2Play. To be honest I don't know how to test the URL on it. I imagine > I could run a browser from the command line, but since it's headless > that's not straightforward. The test is to etst whether the system which runs LMS can fetch the URL without timeout. If it can then the problem is within LMS, if it cannot then theproblem is with your server and local network setup. An alternative is to use a command line interface on server (e.g. telnet, ssh) which runs the LMS and then use wget (saves to a file) or curl (puts URL on output) e.g. wget http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/availability/radio2.xml curl http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/availability/radio2.xml bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
Oh, I thought you were suggesting that the router might be blocking the URL. I am running LMS in an Allo Sparky, with Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS and Max2Play. To be honest I don't know how to test the URL on it. I imagine I could run a browser from the command line, but since it's headless that's not straightforward. Allo Sparky, LMS 7.8.0 > Piano 2.1 + Kali, Max2Play > AudioEngine 5 Raspberry Pi > LMS 7.9.0 [Mac Mini > LMS 7.7.5: retired (okay, I broke it)] Squeezebox Classic, resting iPad mini > Squeezepad Android phone > Squeezer iPhone > iPeng Airplay Bridge > SONY-SRS-X7 speaker nitram's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63775 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
nitram wrote: > Sorry to take so long to reply. Yes, the BBC URLs open fine in a > browser. No, there's nothing particularly unusual in my setup, and the > last time I tried there was no problem. (That was a few months ago; I've > been using the iPlayer Radio app on an iPad to listen on demand.) > > Trying again just now, still times out 'waiting for data' on R1, R2, R3, > R4, ... > > I'm not blaming BBCiPlayer for this problem, just hunting around for a > solution. Apple ands Android devices do not usehese URLs - they are pr0vided by BBC for 3rd parties. To locate the problem please do as I asked in previous earlier - Can you open the URL in a browser tab on your system (ideally a browser on the PC which LMS is running) ? bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
Sorry to take so long to reply. Yes, the BBC URLs open fine in a browser. No, there's nothing particularly unusual in my setup, and the last time I tried there was no problem. (That was a few months ago; I've been using the iPlayer Radio app on an iPad to listen on demand.) Trying again just now, still times out 'waiting for data' on R1, R2, R3, R4, ... I'm not blaming BBCiPlayer for this problem, just hunting around for a solution. Nitram Allo Sparky, LMS 7.8.0 > Piano 2.1 + Kali, Max2Play > AudioEngine 5 Raspberry Pi > LMS 7.9.0 [Mac Mini > LMS 7.7.5: retired (okay, I broke it)] Squeezebox Classic, resting iPad mini > Squeezepad Android phone > Squeezer iPhone > iPeng Airplay Bridge > SONY-SRS-X7 speaker nitram's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63775 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
nitram wrote: > I usually listen live (from outside the UK), but I just tried to listen > on demand and received a time-out error, on R6 and on R2. I upgraded to > v.1.5.4.5, but the problem persists. Maybe it's the heat in the UK. :) > > This message from LMS: "There was an error loading the remote feed for : > (Timed out waiting for data)" > > The Log file contains this: > [11-01-07 15:35:58.4401] Slim::Formats::XML::gotErrorViaHTTP (310) > Error: getting http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/availability/radio2.xml > Timed out waiting for data > [11-01-07 15:35:58.6462] Slim::Utils::Timers::__ANON__ (273) Error: > Timer Slim::Networking::Async::_async_error failed: > [11-01-07 15:36:48.9979] Slim::Formats::XML::gotErrorViaHTTP (310) > Error: getting http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/availability/radio2.xml > Timed out waiting for data > [11-01-07 15:44:24.4233] Slim::Formats::XML::gotErrorViaHTTP (310) > Error: getting http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/availability/radio2.xml > Timed out waiting for data I am also not in the UK. This is a basic network error getting info from BBC - look at the your ssystem setup - it is not specific to plugin. Can you open the URL in a browser tab on your system ? Do you have anything odd in your network (e.g. satellite link, VPN) bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
I usually listen live (from outside the UK), but I just tried to listen on demand and received a time-out error, on R6 and on R2. I upgraded to v.1.5.4.5, but the problem persists. Maybe it's the heat in the UK. :) This message from LMS: "There was an error loading the remote feed for : (Timed out waiting for data)" The Log file contains this: [11-01-07 15:35:58.4401] Slim::Formats::XML::gotErrorViaHTTP (310) Error: getting http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/availability/radio2.xml Timed out waiting for data [11-01-07 15:35:58.6462] Slim::Utils::Timers::__ANON__ (273) Error: Timer Slim::Networking::Async::_async_error failed: [11-01-07 15:36:48.9979] Slim::Formats::XML::gotErrorViaHTTP (310) Error: getting http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/availability/radio2.xml Timed out waiting for data [11-01-07 15:44:24.4233] Slim::Formats::XML::gotErrorViaHTTP (310) Error: getting http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/availability/radio2.xml Timed out waiting for data Allo Sparky, LMS 7.8.0 > Piano 2.1 + Kali, Max2Play > AudioEngine 5 Raspberry Pi > LMS 7.9.0 [Mac Mini > LMS 7.7.5: retired (okay, I broke it)] Squeezebox Classic, resting iPad mini > Squeezepad Android phone > Squeezer iPhone > iPeng Airplay Bridge > SONY-SRS-X7 speaker nitram's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63775 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
philippe_44 wrote: > Yes, as said, check that your friend has not set pacing_size at more > than 1M and if it's still 1M, reduce it to 500k. > > [edit]: this pacing_size parameters tells the plugin to stop gathering > data from the source if the player has not accept the latest N amount of > bytes. It's not exactly the same than the buffer_size because it governs > how far ahead the bridge can be from the CC. > > There is really two buffering levels happening here. CC can be greedy > himself and tell the plugin "give me more" while, on top of that, the > plugin will eat all can from the source till buffer_size is met. Setting > pacing_size might not fully solve the problem in a sense that if CC eats > a lot of data when starting, then there will still be a large amount of > data buffered in (CC buffer + pacing_size) at the beginning then a long > silence before CC starts to ask for more. You can set the pacing_size > value to a super small value, it should still work. > > Doing something different would mean starving the CC and guessing what > has been exactly consumed and I don't want to do that (lots of > timer-based programming and I always feel its wrong) Thanks Touch, Logitech Radio, Logitech UE Radio, O2 Joggler + SqpOS UPnPBridge - 2 paired Sonos Play1 speakers; Rocki - Sony SRS-BTM8 speaker; Pioneer WX-SMA1 speaker; - PURE One Flow internet radio: PURE Jongo S3x ; Jongo T2; Libratone Zipp Castbridge - Chromecast 1 + Chromecast Audio AirplayBridge - Loewe Airspeaker SB Player - Fire TV castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
castalla wrote: > Any tips? Yes, as said, check that your friend has not set pacing_size at more than 1M and if it's still 1M, reduce it to 500k LMS 7.7, 7.8 and 7.9 - 5xRadio, 3xBoom, 4xDuet, 1xTouch, 1 SB2. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBoxOne, XBMC, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, JRiver 21, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, , Pi B3, B2, Pi B+, 2xPi A+, Odroid-C1, Odroid-C2, Cubie2, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
castalla wrote: > Any tips? No - Phillipe handled it directly with the user. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
philippe_44 wrote: > Potentially the plugin is too "greedy" and gets a lot of data, then goes > dark for a large amount of time. The other end (or the tunnel) sees that > as a system that disconnected so it closes the connection. Default > "pacing size" is 1M, which is about a minute of 128kbits/s I think - > more if the flow is slower or if that parameter was increased Any tips? Touch, Logitech Radio, Logitech UE Radio, O2 Joggler + SqpOS UPnPBridge - 2 paired Sonos Play1 speakers; Rocki - Sony SRS-BTM8 speaker; Pioneer WX-SMA1 speaker; - PURE One Flow internet radio: PURE Jongo S3x ; Jongo T2; Libratone Zipp Castbridge - Chromecast 1 + Chromecast Audio AirplayBridge - Loewe Airspeaker SB Player - Fire TV castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
castalla wrote: > Okay! Thanks. I have no problems with live streams using chromecast - > so I'll need to check my settings to compare. > > Cheers bpa wrote: > IIRC The chromecast plugin acts as player which has an infinite buffer > it tries to grab as much data as possible - in early days this caused > problems with BBCiplayer livestreams so something had to be introduced > to manage the flow better. Potentially the plugin is too "greedy" and gets a lot of data, then goes dark for a large amount of time. The other end (or the tunnel) sees that as a system that disconnected so it closes the connection. Default "pacing size" is 1M, which is about a minute of 128kbits/s I think - more if the flow is slower or if that parameter was increased LMS 7.7, 7.8 and 7.9 - 5xRadio, 3xBoom, 4xDuet, 1xTouch, 1 SB2. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBoxOne, XBMC, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, JRiver 21, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, , Pi B3, B2, Pi B+, 2xPi A+, Odroid-C1, Odroid-C2, Cubie2, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
castalla wrote: > Okay! Thanks. I have no problems with live streams using chromecast - > so I'll need to check my settings to compare. IIRC The chromecast plugin acts as player which has an infinite buffer it tries to grab as much data as possible - in early days this caused problems with BBCiplayer livestreams so something had to be introduced to manage the flow better. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
bpa wrote: > IIRC there were specific setting for Chromecast plugin with BBCiPlayer > live but I can't help - I feel this is a chromecast plugin issue > possibly aggravated by Windows depending on where transcoding is done. Okay! Thanks. I have no problems with live streams using chromecast - so I'll need to check my settings to compare. Cheers Touch, Logitech Radio, Logitech UE Radio, O2 Joggler + SqpOS UPnPBridge - 2 paired Sonos Play1 speakers; Rocki - Sony SRS-BTM8 speaker; Pioneer WX-SMA1 speaker; - PURE One Flow internet radio: PURE Jongo S3x ; Jongo T2; Libratone Zipp Castbridge - Chromecast 1 + Chromecast Audio AirplayBridge - Loewe Airspeaker SB Player - Fire TV castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
castalla wrote: > Players are chromecasts via castbridge plugin > > --- > He also has the UPNP plugin running > --- IIRC there were specific setting for Chromecast plugin with BBCiPlayer live but I can't help - I feel this is a chromecast plugin issue possibly aggravated by Windows depending on where transcoding is done. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
here's the system info Windows10Pro 64-bit desktop, with an AMD PhenomII x945 processor running at 3 GHz, with 8 GB of RAM. iPlayer - 1.5.4.5 - DASH only - all other settings as default No VPN - using the non-UK menu Players are chromecasts via castbridge plugin --- He also has the UPNP plugin running --- Touch, Logitech Radio, Logitech UE Radio, O2 Joggler + SqpOS UPnPBridge - 2 paired Sonos Play1 speakers; Rocki - Sony SRS-BTM8 speaker; Pioneer WX-SMA1 speaker; - PURE One Flow internet radio: PURE Jongo S3x ; Jongo T2; Libratone Zipp Castbridge - Chromecast 1 + Chromecast Audio AirplayBridge - Loewe Airspeaker SB Player - Fire TV castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
bpa wrote: > More detailed info please - "long distance" doesn't cut it ! > > What is a long distance colleague ? Do they use a satellite link ? Are > they non UK but using a VPN to become UK ? > > The error below means that BBC replied with a requested chunk after 2292 > seconds - 38 minutes !! what is going on > > Code: > > > Plugins::BBCiPlayer:ASH::__ANON__ (779) Chunk fetch status 200 Long chunk fetch time 2292 800 > > > > > With a valid chunk being returned after 38 minutes - I think the > plugin gets confused - it looks like user has paused so chunks being > played are 38 minutes old but none of the other plugin variables match > the expected delay. > > Code: > > > [18-01-10 13:57:24.3098] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor (567) Invalid estimated delay -14 streamtime=1515610675 > > > > > The delay may be partially due to the system (e.g. XP system with slow > single core processor, small memeory with a lot of system swapping) > > Quick test would be to set "delay to start live stream" to 5 min. > > What version of a plugin > What type of system - OS, processor , memory etc > Is the user in the UK (or appears to be in UK - faster UK streams can > cause problem if not in UK) > What are the BBCiPlayer settings ? > What type of player ? Thanks! He's in the US. No idea why he doesn't sign up here for help! Hope he gets back with the system details. Touch, Logitech Radio, Logitech UE Radio, O2 Joggler + SqpOS UPnPBridge - 2 paired Sonos Play1 speakers; Rocki - Sony SRS-BTM8 speaker; Pioneer WX-SMA1 speaker; - PURE One Flow internet radio: PURE Jongo S3x ; Jongo T2; Libratone Zipp Castbridge - Chromecast 1 + Chromecast Audio AirplayBridge - Loewe Airspeaker SB Player - Fire TV castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
Raymond Woodward wrote: > He doesn't run Hitmanpro Alert by any chance? > > What you describe is *very* familiar here - finally sourced the problem > to Hitmanpro Alert anti-ransomware (which really doesn't coexist well > with the BBC iplayer plugin) ... I don't see why Hitmanpro should cause problem - more liklely it is just the usual Windows problem with transcoding. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
More detailed info please - "long distance" doesn't cut it ! What is a long distance colleague ? Do they use a satellite link ? Are they non UK but using a VPN to become UK ? The error below means that BBC replied with a requested chunk after 2292 seconds - 38 minutes !! what is going on Code: Plugins::BBCiPlayer:ASH::__ANON__ (779) Chunk fetch status 200 Long chunk fetch time 2292 800 With a valid chunk being returned after 38 minutes - I think the plugin gets confused - it looks like user has paused so chunks being played are 38 minutes old but none of the other plugin variables match the expected delay. Code: [18-01-10 13:57:24.3098] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor (567) Invalid estimated delay -14 streamtime=1515610675 The delay may be partially due to the system (e.g. XP system with slow single core processor, small memeory with a lot of system swapping) Quick test would be to set "delay to start live stream" to 5 min. What version of a plugin What type of system - OS, processor , memory etc Is the user in the UK (or appears to be in UK - faster UK streams can cause problem if not in UK) What are the BBCiPlayer settings ? What type of player ? bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
Raymond Woodward wrote: > He doesn't run Hitmanpro Alert by any chance? > > What you describe is *very* familiar here - finally sourced the problem > to Hitmanpro Alert anti-ransomware (which really doesn't coexist well > with the BBC iplayer plugin) ... I'll ask! Touch, Logitech Radio, Logitech UE Radio, O2 Joggler + SqpOS UPnPBridge - 2 paired Sonos Play1 speakers; Rocki - Sony SRS-BTM8 speaker; Pioneer WX-SMA1 speaker; - PURE One Flow internet radio: PURE Jongo S3x ; Jongo T2; Libratone Zipp Castbridge - Chromecast 1 + Chromecast Audio AirplayBridge - Loewe Airspeaker SB Player - Fire TV castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
castalla wrote: > I'm asking for help on behalf of a long-distance colleague.Reports > that live streams stop after 2-3 minutes, > > He doesn't run Hitmanpro Alert by any chance? What you describe is *very* familiar here - finally sourced the problem to Hitmanpro Alert anti-ransomware (which really doesn't coexist well with the BBC iplayer plugin) ... Raymond Woodward's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63990 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
I'm asking for help on behalf of a long-distance colleague. He get's the following in the sever log (below). Reports that live streams stop after 2-3 minutes, } Plugins::BBCiPlayer::DASH::__ANON__ (779) Chunk fetch status 200 Long chunk fetch time 2292 800 [18-01-10 13:57:24.3098 wrote: > Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor (567) Invalid estimated > delay -14 streamtime=1515610675 > [18-01-10 13:57:24.3104] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor > (567) Invalid estimated delay -14 streamtime=1515610675 > [18-01-10 13:57:24.3728] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor > (567) Invalid estimated delay -14 streamtime=1515610675 > [18-01-10 13:57:24.3737] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor > (567) Invalid estimated delay -14 streamtime=1515610675 > [18-01-10 13:57:24.4311] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor > (567) Invalid estimated delay -14 streamtime=1515610675 > [18-01-10 13:57:24.4325] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor > (567) Invalid estimated delay -14 streamtime=1515610675 > [18-01-10 13:57:24.4332] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor > (567) Invalid estimated delay -14 streamtime=1515610675 > [18-01-10 13:57:29.3733] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor > (567) Invalid estimated delay -15 streamtime=1515610681 > [18-01-10 13:57:29.3739] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor > (567) Invalid estimated delay -15 streamtime=1515610681 > [18-01-10 13:57:34.4479] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor > (567) Invalid estimated delay -10 streamtime=1515610681 > [18-01-10 13:57:34.4486] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor > (567) Invalid estimated delay -10 streamtime=1515610681 > Any ideas? Touch, Logitech Radio, Logitech UE Radio, O2 Joggler + SqpOS UPnPBridge - 2 paired Sonos Play1 speakers; Rocki - Sony SRS-BTM8 speaker; Pioneer WX-SMA1 speaker; - PURE One Flow internet radio: PURE Jongo S3x ; Jongo T2; Libratone Zipp Castbridge - Chromecast 1 + Chromecast Audio AirplayBridge - Loewe Airspeaker SB Player - Fire TV castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
Owen Smith wrote: > But it is the version you get with the default repos on a fresh LMS > install. I have been suggesting for a year or two that this is a bad > situation. I know it has been suggested and I also laid out some of the consequences which land at my door. 1. If you delete the 1.3 from the current - AFAICT at next startup the user current 1.3 BBCiPlayer (which if patched will be providing Listen again and live) will be automatically removed and disappear. 2. if an update is done - some users may not be supported. If a user is using 1.3 then are likely to be using LMS 7.7.* which I don't support 3. If an update is done to say 1.5 , then there may be conflicting update notices between default plugin and users who have steadfastly remained on 1.4 (12 download in last week) Either way there may be a burst of frustrated users wondering why their beloved BBC has broken and why was it done and how to fix it. The present situation means there is only the occasional user with a problem. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
bpa wrote: > V1.3.1alpha3 of the BBCiPlayer plugin is years out of date and is not > the subject of this thread. But it is the version you get with the default repos on a fresh LMS install. I have been suggesting for a year or two that this is a bad situation. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
Shellness wrote: > Thank you, it works a charm. > > I have installed the xml file in the past (not least when all of the > DASH issues arose) but had not recorded that I needed to do it again for > any reinstallation.. Good that it worked - I wasn't sure whether you needed 1.3 with OMV for some reason. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
Thank you, it works a charm. I have installed the xml file in the past (not least when all of the DASH issues arose) but had not recorded that I needed to do it again for any reinstallation. Thank you. Raspberry Pi 3 model B, Debian/Open Media Vault (OMV) 3.0.95 (Erasmus), LMS 7.9.1 - 1513951369 Squeezebox Classic Squeezebox Duet Squeezebox Radio Shellness's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17122 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
V1.3.1alpha3 of the BBCiPlayer plugin is years out of date and is not the subject of this thread. The first page of the thread summarises the situation. There is another thread tells you how to patch the 1.3 version into sort of working order if you really need to run the 1.3 version of the plugin. This thread is about a test version successor to that plugin - V1.5.* and also an update to BBCiPlayerExtra (which has its own thread) To install the 1.5.* version - follow the instruction on the first page adding the new repo to the plugins tab. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
Thanks for the rapid response. Your questions make me wonder whether I have bungled the LMS installation, somehow. Answers as follows: Any BBC plugin related message in the log file? - I dont know how to get to the log file. Reading around I need to find squeezecenter.pl, but I cant find it under /usr/local/squeezecenter, nor under /usr/share/squeezeboxserver. What repo URL have you used? - I usually keep records but on this occasion I havent. My guess is: downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/7.9/sc/a519d5e/logitechmediaserver_7.9.1~1513951369_all.deb What version of BBCiPlayer and BBCiPlayerExtra is shown in the plugins tab? - BBCiPlayer - V1.3.1alpha3 - BBCiPlayerExtra - No version as it wont install and no number shows against it under the 3rd Party Plugins listing What menu items appear on WebGUI - Everything appears normal for LMS (LMS user screen and for the Settings screens), i.e. for the user screen: My Music, Radio, My Apps, Favorites and Extras; with all of their sub-folders. What are the AAC setting in WebGUI Settings/Advanced/Filetypes? File Format - Stream Format - Decoder AAC - AAC - Native - FLAC - faad/flac - MP3 - disabled - PCM - faad - NB, Soma pls files work when posted in the Tune In URL box, e.g. https://somafm.com/dronezone130.pls, and play AAC. What is shown in BBCiPlayer Listen Again menu - Are they empty, up to date? - The Listen Again options are complete, with all of the last 7 days followed by the numerical/alphabetical listing of recent shows. Clicking on any one show (be it under the main listing or under one of the 7 days) just bring up the artwork plus the programme text. The line below the text which would give the stream rate and type just shows "0" (a zero). The timer bar just shows 0.00 on the left and 0.00 on the right. (Example programme text: Chain Reaction: Series 11: Ed Byrne interviews Al Murray Ed Byrne kicks off Series 11 by interviewing the creator of the Pub Landlord, Al Murray. Chain Reaction: Series 11: Ed Byrne interviews Al Murray) What Settiings for BBCiPlayer and BBCiPlayer plugin? - The only settings are for the BBCiPlayer plugin as the BBCiPlayerExtra plugin won't install: - Show in My Apps - Enable (blank) - Live Stream Preference - HLS>MP3>FlashAAC>FlashMP3 - On Demand Stream Preference - HLS>MP3>FlashAAC>FlashMP3 - Allow Transcoding - Enable (ticked) - Show Live Text - Enable (ticked) - Show Slide Show - Enable (blank) - Live Text - Squeezebox Classic - Top Line - NB the Live Text works on my Classic For info: - All my settings (which I save on a PC) carried over fine to the new installation. - The Radio Paradise plugin gives the message Radio Paradsie lossless streaming requires the Perl module IO::Socket::SSL. Please use your operating system's package manager to install it. - The RadioFeeds plugin works. Thanks again. Raspberry Pi 3 model B, Debian/Open Media Vault (OMV) 3.0.95 (Erasmus), LMS 7.9.1 - 1513951369 Squeezebox Classic Squeezebox Duet Squeezebox Radio Shellness's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17122 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
Shellness wrote: > I have recently reinstalled LMS and I cannot get the iPlayerExtra plugin > to install. I tick the box and restart LMS, but it remains in the "3rd > party plugins" section. > > Any ideas, please? > > In case it helps, though this is perhaps slightly off-piste, I cannot > get Listen Again to work in the BBCiPlayer plugin (I get the artwork and > programme text only). And the World Service won't stream live (UK and > non-UK streams). Details please. Any BBC plugin related message in the log file ? What repo URL have you used ? What version of BBCiPlayer and BBCiPlayerExtra is shown in the plugins tab ? What menu items appear on WebGUI What are the AAC setting in WebGUI Settings/Advanced/Filetypes ? What is shown in BBCiPlayer Listen Again menu - Are they empty, up to date ?? What Settiings for BBCiPlayer and BBCiPlayer plugin ? bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
I have recently reinstalled LMS and I cannot get the iPlayerExtra plugin to install. I tick the box and restart LMS, but it remains in the "3rd party plugins" section. Any ideas, please? In case it helps, though this is perhaps slightly off-piste, I cannot get Listen Again to work in the BBCiPlayer plugin (I get the artwork and programme text only). And the World Service won't stream live (UK and non-UK streams). Raspberry Pi 3 model B, Debian/Open Media Vault (OMV) 3.0.95 (Erasmus), LMS 7.9.1 - 151395136 Squeezebox Classic Squeezebox Duet Squeezebox Radio Shellness's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17122 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
bpa wrote: > BBC do not include CBeebies in the official vendor feed used by > BBciPlayer. Also they do not appear under the A-Z of BBCiPlayer so not > in Extra by default. Since you have found the Programme pid - once you > have BBCiPlayerExtra installed and add the following line to the > menu.opml file (e.g. at the end just above ) in the BBCiPlayer > directory - then go back to top menu Radio and then BBCiPlayer - then > the updated menu.opml will be read and the CBeebies Epsiodes menu item > should be present. > > Code: > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03g64pd/episodes/player.inc?page=1; parser="Plugins::BBCiPlayerExtra::ExtraPlayerIncParser" text="CBeebies Episodes" /> > > > > > edit: > > There is something "odd" - can't seem to get programmes on Page 2 and > beyond - I'll look into it later. > > edit 2: > There was an error in the URL - now correct it needed the "Page" > parameter. > > Note for programmes on Page 4 and higher - make sure you have FlashAAC > in the On-demand setting as they are "old" and in Flash format only > not DASH or HLS.. Works like a dream, thanks very much! sutty81's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58392 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
sutty81 wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks very much for this great plugin! Does anyone else have listen > again available for Cbeebies Radio? I've got the listen live but not > that. My kids love 'listen and play' and replay them endlessly, would be > brill to have them available on the squeezebox. > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03g64pd > > Interestingly (or not) this seems to fall under the 'School Radio' > brand. > > Win10 > LMS 7.9.1 > BBCiPlayer v1.5.4.5 > BBC iPlayer Extras v2.0.0 > test release repo BBC do not include CBeebies in the official vendor feed used by BBciPlayer. Also they do not appear under the A-Z of BBCiPlayer so not in Extra by default. Since you have found the Programme pid - once you have BBCiPlayerExtra installed and add the following line to the menu.opml file (e.g. at the end just above ) in the BBCiPlayer directory - then go back to top menu Radio and then BBCiPlayer - then the updated menu.opml will be read and the CBeebies Epsiodes menu item should be present. Code: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03g64pd/episodes/player.inc; parser="Plugins::BBCiPlayerExtra::ExtraPlayerIncParser" text="CBeebies Episodes" /> bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
Hi, Thanks very much for this great plugin! Does anyone else have listen again available for Cbeebies Radio? I've got the listen live but not that. My kids love 'listen and play' and replay them endlessly, would be brill to have them available on the squeezebox. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03g64pd Interestingly (or not) this seems to fall under the 'School Radio' brand. Win10 LMS 7.9.1 BBCiPlayer v1.5.4.5 BBC iPlayer Extras v2.0.0 test release repo sutty81's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58392 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
ianf wrote: > Thanks, Im thinking the Flac has stopped in September, hopefully BBC > will do it full time If they do it may be a bit of vanity project perhaps as areplacement if (or when) FM goes away. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
bpa wrote: > The metadata for BBCstrerams has nothing to do witrh the audio stream, > there is no metadata in the audio stream. The metadata is pulled from > one of 2 other sites - one is RadioPLayer (non BBC). > > In this case R3 flac metadata was set up to be the the same as R3 AAC > (and also for the few biunaural broadcast as well) Thanks, Im thinking the Flac has stopped in September, hopefully BBC will do it full time Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ianf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2602 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
ianf wrote: > Interesting that BBC radio3 Flac stream no longer playing audio, yet > metadata is all correct? The metadata for BBCstrerams has nothing to do witrh the audio stream, there is no metadata in the audio stream. The metadata is pulled from one of 2 other sites - one is RadioPLayer (non BBC). In this case R3 flac metadata was set up to be the the same as R3 AAC (and also for the few biunaural broadcast as well) bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
Interesting that BBC radio3 Flac stream no longer playing audio, yet metadata is all correct? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ianf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2602 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
PasTim wrote: > It may be that you have lost the ability to transcode aac to something > the receiver understands, like flac. Look at your file types (Settings, > Advanced, File Types) and see what it says for aac. > > Check that under Settings, Player, Audio that the Streaming method is > Proxied Streaming (I don't actually know if this matters, but it can't > do any harm...). > > Stick with DASH first in the list. Proxied streaming does nothing with BBCiPlayer - only with plain http /MP3, http/wma or http/aac streams. First tets transcoding oif AAC on your system: Can you play ordinary http/AAC stream such as http://www.somafm.com/illstreet64.pls ? If there is no problems then As you are using Windows - increase the "live delay" setting to say 2 minutes. What is the spec of your Windows systems. Have you got security s/w ? bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
prustage1 wrote: > The BBC iplayer plugin topped working a while back. I upgraded to the > latest version of LMS, uninstalled the current iplayer plugins, > dowloaded the latest and have restarted. BBC streams still do not work. > I get the graphics and the text with stream information but no sound. > The counter gets as far as about 9 secs then reverts back to 0 and > starts again. I have repeated the install and restart a few times > including rebooting the whole PC. Here is my set up: > > Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.1 - 1505480690 @ Fri Sep 15 13:17:40 > CUT 2017 > Hostname: PHIL-PC > Server IP Address: 192.168.2.2 > Server HTTP Port Number: 9000 > Operating system: Windows 10 - EN - cp1252 > Platform Architecture: 8664 > Perl Version: 5.14.1 - MSWin32-x86-multi-thread > Audio::Scan: 0.95 > Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.34_01 (sqlite 3.7.7.1) > Total Players Recognized: 1 > > Player Model: Squeezebox Receiver > Player Type: receiver > Firmware: 77 > Player IP Address: 192.168.2.6 > Player MAC Address: 00:04:20:17:26:96 > Wireless Signal Strength: 96% > > The plugins are: > BBC iplayer 1.5.4.5 > BBC iplayer extras v2.0.0 > > I have tried various settings with HLC > first and DASH > first but it > makes no difference. None of the BBC stations are working, live or > catchup. DASH has not been disabled in the settings. Oh and I am in the > UK. > > Any ideas?? It may be that you have lost the ability to transcode aac to something the receiver understands, like flac. Look at your file types (Settings, Advanced, File Types) and see what it says for aac. Check that under Settings, Player, Audio that the Streaming method is Proxied Streaming (I don't actually know if this matters, but it can't do any harm...). Stick with DASH first in the list. LMS 7.9.1 on VortexBox Midi box, Xubuntu 17.04, FLACs 16->24 bit, 44.1->192kbps. Touch & EDO. 2nd Touch standard. LMS plugin UPnP/DLNA Bridge to MF M1 CLiC (to A308CR amp & ESLs) & Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers. Alternatively Minimserver & Upplay to same & to upmpdcli/mpd PC renderers. Squeezelite to Meridian USB Explorer DAC to PC speakers/headphones. Wireless Xubuntu 17.04 laptop firefox/upplay or Android 'phone with Squeeze-Commander/BubbleUPnP controls LMS/Minimserver. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
bpa wrote: > Does the iOS version of iPlayer Radio play DASH or HLS ? No idea, but it doesn't matter. If the BBC want more FLAC players, they control their own Apps and can change them to handle whatever network protocol and audio codec they want. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
The BBC iplayer plugin topped working a while back. I upgraded to the latest version of LMS, uninstalled the current iplayer plugins, dowloaded the latest and have restarted. BBC streams still do not work. I get the graphics and the text with stream information but no sound. The counter gets as far as about 9 secs then reverts back to 0 and starts again. I have repeated the install and restart a few times including rebooting the whole PC. Here is my set up: Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.1 - 1505480690 @ Fri Sep 15 13:17:40 CUT 2017 Hostname: PHIL-PC Server IP Address: 192.168.2.2 Server HTTP Port Number: 9000 Operating system: Windows 10 - EN - cp1252 Platform Architecture: 8664 Perl Version: 5.14.1 - MSWin32-x86-multi-thread Audio::Scan: 0.95 Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.34_01 (sqlite 3.7.7.1) Total Players Recognized: 1 Player Model: Squeezebox Receiver Player Type: receiver Firmware: 77 Player IP Address: 192.168.2.6 Player MAC Address: 00:04:20:17:26:96 Wireless Signal Strength: 96% The plugins are: BBC iplayer 1.5.4.5 BBC iplayer extras v2.0.0 I have tried various settings with HLC > first and DASH > first but it makes no difference. None of the BBC stations are working, live or catchup. DASH has not been disabled in the settings. Oh and I am in the UK. Any ideas?? prustage1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65836 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
slartibartfast wrote: > I can confirm there is no audio glitch with a Raspberry Pi server. The > playing time seems to reset itself when playing starts after a delay of > a few seconds but that is all. That is LMS plugin interaction as no audio chunks and some metadata are available (unlike a file or a http/MP3 stream) when play is pressed. When Play is pressed LMS starts the playtime display but plugin doesn't know all the details of the stream (e.g. duration) until it has fetched MPD etc. nor has any audio chunks been retrieved. Once MPD and few audio chunks have been received and then sent to player the plugin updates metadata etc (which is after play has been pressed) LMS then updates all the displayed info. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
bpa wrote: > Ignoring the track info issue. On Linux system with 320kbps, I suspect > the "no delay" should work without audio problems. The "delay" setting > is there to speed up playing after pressing play which is necessary for > some Windows systems. For slower streams such as 96kbps with "no delay" > there may be an audio glitch about 6-12 secs after playing starts - a > setting of 15sec delay avoids this.I can confirm there is no audio glitch > with a Raspberry Pi server. The playing time seems to reset itself when playing starts after a delay of a few seconds but that is all. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
bpa wrote: > To check this I've had to listen to Chas & Dave I forgot to apologise for forcing you to listen to Chas & Dave [emoji3]. No one deserves that. You can blame Paul Heaton, it was one of his chosen tracks. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
Owen Smith wrote: > The simplest way for the BBC to get more players is to add FLAC support > to their own iOS and Android Apps. Does the iOS version of iPlayer Radio play DASH or HLS ? bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
bpa wrote: > OK - Thanks, this make the issue clearer. Outside the UK with slower > streams (96kbps vs 320kbps) - these timing effects are slightly > different. R3 now has track details - many thanks for your guidance. SH simonheard's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57556 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
bpa wrote: > The question now is whether BBC will do another trial or decide to > provide a full R3 service. I suspect another trial hoping to stimulate > implementation of more "players". Since the Jan trial there is now VLC > and ffmpeg and maybe a few others although the user has to find the > right build. The simplest way for the BBC to get more players is to add FLAC support to their own iOS and Android Apps. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
bpa wrote: > OK - Thanks, this make the issue clearer. Outside the UK with slower > streams (96kbps vs 320kbps) - these timing effects are slightly > different.I did try the Non-UK streams with 15 seconds delay but track detail > was still missing. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
slartibartfast wrote: > Works for me as well. I also tried 5 seconds delay but that had the > same issue. OK - Thanks, this make the issue clearer. Outside the UK with slower streams (96kbps vs 320kbps) - these timing effects are slightly different. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
simonheard wrote: > That is giving me track details on R1 and R2. I'm most interested in R3, > but 'Free thinking' is on at present so no tracks. I'll check again > tomorrow and repost if effective. > > SHWorks for me as well. I also tried 5 seconds delay but that had the same issue. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
bpa wrote: > Does changing the delay from 15 to "no delay" fix the track detail > problem (even though there may be a audio glitch at start). That is giving me track details on R1 and R2. I'm most interested in R3, but 'Free thinking' is on at present so no tracks. I'll check again tomorrow and repost if effective. SH simonheard's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57556 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
simonheard wrote: > I've got seconds to delay as 15 seconds, and buffer fullness threshold > as 255. Does changing the delay from 15 to "no delay" fix the track detail problem (even though there may be a audio glitch at start). bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
bpa wrote: > Thanks. I'm looking around for any possible setup difference as this > issue could be affected by delays and even the player - what are the > "Seconds to delay live streams " and "buffer Threshold" settings. I've got seconds to delay as 15 seconds, and buffer fullness threshold as 255. simonheard's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57556 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
simonheard wrote: > Show OnAir Text > Enable - ticked > > Always display station icon > Enable - not ticked Thanks. I'm looking around for any possible setup difference as this issue could be affected by delays and even the player - what are the "Seconds to delay live streams " and "buffer Threshold" settings. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
bpa wrote: > I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 as well - the picoreplayer doesn't matter as it > is squeezelite - not the UI. I presume the plugin version is a typo > meant to be 1.5.4.5 > > What are your BBCiPlayer settings ? Thanks BPA - I think these are the relevant settings. I haven't worked out how to add the neat screen shots others post! Simon Show OnAir Text Enable Always display station icon Enable Live Text - Squeezebox Classic simonheard's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57556 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
simonheard wrote: > Yes, that is the behaviour I get as well. LMS 7.9.1 on Ubuntu 16.04.3 > server, iplayer 1.4.4.5, PicorePlayer. I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 as well - the picoreplayer doesn't matter as it is squeezelite - not the UI. I presume the plugin version is a typo meant to be 1.5.4.5 What are your BBCiPlayer settings ? bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
slartibartfast wrote: > Just tried the web UI and got this. > 23656 > > 23657 > > so It isn't working for me. Strange. I don't deny you see the problem - it's just I can't reproduce it. I'll have to go into the code and see what are the possibilties. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
