Re: [PEDA] Seperate Systems - was Roxio, Nero, Virii and crashes
Ivan, While there certainly are reasonable limitations and exceptions, burning a CD is certainly not something that can generally be done at the same time while you are multitasking and designing a board with Protel, or even writing code, and is in fact somehting you could very easily do on at least 2 of the other 4 machines you have available right there at your desk, while you continued to work on your work machine. Certainly there may be other cad tasks that are best shared on your work machine, but not very much of an arguement can be made to say that burning CD's, for whatever reason, is one of them, especially when it is with the software under discussion as being the problem in the original posts. The primary point of my original post was to raise awareness of peoples investment in their Protel Machine / Toolbox, so as to prevent problems by needlessly trying to multitask on that machine where certain tasks, such as burning a CD, can be done so easily elsewhere. There really is no reason to invite problems on your Protel Machine /Toolbox when you do not have to. Thanks, JaMi - Original Message - From: Bagotronix Tech Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 7:15 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Seperate Systems - was Roxio, Nero, Virii and crashes JaMi: While using a separate PC for each application will certainly reduce conflicts, it should not be necessary. You see, there is this concept called multitasking - check it out! ;-) I burn CDs on my Protel workstation too. And I'm not talking about MP3 CDs. I burn CDs of our hardware drivers for our customers. So it's entirely work-related CD burning activity. That's just as important as running Protel. I already have 5 PCs (Linux server, linux client, W2K workstation, W95 miscellaneous, and a DOS/W95 hackbox) on/under/beside my desk anyway. No way I'm going to add yet another PC just to run one program which should get along with other programs anyway. I could afford to buy another PC. I just can't stand any more clutter. Behind my desk looks like an explosion in a cable factory. Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Seperate Systems - was Roxio, Nero, Virii and crashes
JaMi: The primary point of my original post was to raise awareness of peoples investment in their Protel Machine / Toolbox, so as to prevent problems by needlessly trying to multitask on that machine where certain tasks, such as burning a CD, can be done so easily elsewhere. There really is no reason to invite problems on your Protel Machine /Toolbox when you do not have to. In other news, BigMoCo announced today the existence of a flaw in the safety belt ignition interlock system on some of their 1998-2002 models. The flaw affects cars with a seating capacity of 5 persons. The rear seat middle safety belt interlock deactivates the ignition circuit when someone is buckled in. This prevents the car from starting. BigMoCo is not issuing a recall, but instead offers the following solutions: 1) Carry 4 or fewer persons in the car 2) Buy an old used car with 5-person seating, and use it only when transporting 5 people. For 4 or fewer persons, continue using your quality BigMoCo automobile. These solutions have been tested and are known to work. A BigMoCo company spokesperson said the flaw is not serious enough to warrant a recall. He apologized for the inconvenience, spoke about the high quality of their customer service, and reiterated their company policy Quality is Job Zero ;-) And my primary point is I shouldn't have to use a separate machine to work around these s/w problems. The s/w problems should just be fixed. Oh, and of my 5 boxes, only 2 have CD burners. The files I want to burn are on the W2K Protel box. What's up with the uppercase 'M' in your name? Should I start calling myself IvAn ? Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Protel - PCAD PCB
On 12:40 AM 19/03/2003, Mira said: Hi group, I'm having problems to translate a Protel99SE PCB file into PCAD2002. It loads 99% and crashes at the end due to the following error: Error (line 26230): Could not add object to layer 0 Has anyone run into this error before? There is nothing like layer 0 in the ASCII file. Thanks for your help. Mira Mira, I suggest opening the file in a text editor and seeing what is at line 26230. You could post that here and that would give a little more help in working out what the problem is. (Layer 0 may possibly refer to a layer number rather than its name.) Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] wierd blacklist message
Did anyone else get the message below? It looks as if that message was sent by me, but it wasn't. Someone is spoofing something. I sent no such message. Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: Bagotronix Tech Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Seperate Systems - was Roxio, Nero, Virii and crashes The message sender's address or IP address was found in one or more of the following Anti-Spam real time black lists. Crystal Groups Own BanList Please contact your system administrator or ISP for further information on how to be removed from these lists. If you feel this message is in error, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Hotmail blocks your email too, or you don't hear from someone withing 24-48 hours, call your contact at Crystal Group. You can find the phone number for Crystal Group at www.crystalpc.com. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] wierd blacklist message
Ivan, any chance that your email account has been compromised? If a spammer has compromised your account somehow and is using your account for spam, then you can find that you are getting blamed. Possibly it is as simple as someone just spoofing your email as the reply address for their spam, now you get the finger pointed at you. It is also possibly just a scam to confirm your email address if you respond. I would not respond to the hotmail email address, it is probably a source for obtaining email addresses for spammers. I would figure any legitimate blacklist would not be using hotmail for their email address. Checking out the website, they sell PC equipment. Maybe it is just a rouse to up their visitor count on their site. Sincerely, Brad Velander. Lead PCB Designer Norsat International Inc. Microwave Products Tel (604) 292-9089 (direct line) Fax (604) 292-9010 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.norsat.com -Original Message- From: Bagotronix Tech Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 6:42 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] wierd blacklist message Did anyone else get the message below? It looks as if that message was sent by me, but it wasn't. Someone is spoofing something. I sent no such message. Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: Bagotronix Tech Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Seperate Systems - was Roxio, Nero, Virii and crashes The message sender's address or IP address was found in one or more of the following Anti-Spam real time black lists. Crystal Groups Own BanList Please contact your system administrator or ISP for further information on how to be removed from these lists. If you feel this message is in error, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Hotmail blocks your email too, or you don't hear from someone withing 24-48 hours, call your contact at Crystal Group. You can find the phone number for Crystal Group at www.crystalpc.com. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] wierd blacklist message
Have you insulted anyone today? Bagotronix Tech Support wrote: Did anyone else get the message below? It looks as if that message was sent by me, but it wasn't. Someone is spoofing something. I sent no such message. Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: Bagotronix Tech Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Seperate Systems - was Roxio, Nero, Virii and crashes The message sender's address or IP address was found in one or more of the following Anti-Spam real time black lists. Crystal Groups Own BanList Please contact your system administrator or ISP for further information on how to be removed from these lists. If you feel this message is in error, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Hotmail blocks your email too, or you don't hear from someone withing 24-48 hours, call your contact at Crystal Group. You can find the phone number for Crystal Group at www.crystalpc.com. -- John M. Cardone Electro-Mechanical Dsgn. Engr. Grp. M/S 125-14R Mechanical Engineering Section, 352 4800 Oak Grove Dr.NASA / Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, Ca 91109MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 818.354.5407 Fax: 818.393.4399 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] wierd blacklist message
Brad: You didn't say if you had received the same message from the Protel list. It seems to me that it would have been sent to all members of the Protel EDA list. Unless the origination address was spoofed, in which case it would look to me like it came from the PEDA list, but in fact came to me from somewhere else, and you guys would not have gotten it. I don't see how my e-mail could have been compromised. My ISP blocks e-mail sending from nets other than their own subnet. With all this blacklisting and spamming, let's take bets when e-mail will finally become unusable. I bet it's when an e-mail has a less than 50% chance of getting there. At this rate, that's by year's end... Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: Brad Velander [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] wierd blacklist message Ivan, any chance that your email account has been compromised? If a spammer has compromised your account somehow and is using your account for spam, then you can find that you are getting blamed. Possibly it is as simple as someone just spoofing your email as the reply address for their spam, now you get the finger pointed at you. It is also possibly just a scam to confirm your email address if you respond. I would not respond to the hotmail email address, it is probably a source for obtaining email addresses for spammers. I would figure any legitimate blacklist would not be using hotmail for their email address. Checking out the website, they sell PC equipment. Maybe it is just a rouse to up their visitor count on their site. Sincerely, Brad Velander. Lead PCB Designer Norsat International Inc. Microwave Products Tel (604) 292-9089 (direct line) Fax (604) 292-9010 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.norsat.com -Original Message- From: Bagotronix Tech Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 6:42 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] wierd blacklist message Did anyone else get the message below? It looks as if that message was sent by me, but it wasn't. Someone is spoofing something. I sent no such message. Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: Bagotronix Tech Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Seperate Systems - was Roxio, Nero, Virii and crashes The message sender's address or IP address was found in one or more of the following Anti-Spam real time black lists. Crystal Groups Own BanList Please contact your system administrator or ISP for further information on how to be removed from these lists. If you feel this message is in error, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Hotmail blocks your email too, or you don't hear from someone withing 24-48 hours, call your contact at Crystal Group. You can find the phone number for Crystal Group at www.crystalpc.com. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] wierd blacklist message
Have you insulted anyone today? No, I'm falling behind on my quota... Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: John M. Cardone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] wierd blacklist message * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] wierd blacklist message
Ivan, no I haven't seen it. But I don't understand exactly how you received it. The portion you supplied was addressed from you to the PEDA list, how did it arrive in your inbox? Do you know how to check the headers and see where it 'may' have really come from according to the headers? Compare the headers from other legitimate PEDA messages. I wonder if somebody at this Crystal PC was a member of the PEDA list and they are no longer employed there? Could this simply be a complex bounce back from their closed email account, aimed to cut down on unsolicited spam? Like the out of office replies we get directly from the source mailboxes when someone sets the autoreply prior to an absence form the office. With what I saw on their website, I don't think they are malicious. Try to find a phone number and give them a call, ask for their network admin and see if it is probably just some autoreply from their email server for a closed email account. Sincerely, Brad Velander. Lead PCB Designer Norsat International Inc. Microwave Products Tel (604) 292-9089 (direct line) Fax (604) 292-9010 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.norsat.com -Original Message- From: Bagotronix Tech Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 8:24 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] wierd blacklist message Brad: You didn't say if you had received the same message from the Protel list. It seems to me that it would have been sent to all members of the Protel EDA list. Unless the origination address was spoofed, in which case it would look to me like it came from the PEDA list, but in fact came to me from somewhere else, and you guys would not have gotten it. I don't see how my e-mail could have been compromised. My ISP blocks e-mail sending from nets other than their own subnet. With all this blacklisting and spamming, let's take bets when e-mail will finally become unusable. I bet it's when an e-mail has a less than 50% chance of getting there. At this rate, that's by year's end... Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] wierd blacklist message
Hi Ivan, Typically many ISP's filter mail by means of a blacklist to prevent spamming. My understanding is that Crystal has a very strict list and will blacklist more people than most ISP's. Are you still getting the error message? Call the ISP's involved if you are. They are just trying to protect the network from going down. I think they would have the best answer to your situation. Good luck. Mark At 06:42 AM 3/19/2003, you wrote: Did anyone else get the message below? It looks as if that message was sent by me, but it wasn't. Someone is spoofing something. I sent no such message. Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: Bagotronix Tech Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Seperate Systems - was Roxio, Nero, Virii and crashes The message sender's address or IP address was found in one or more of the following Anti-Spam real time black lists. Crystal Groups Own BanList Please contact your system administrator or ISP for further information on how to be removed from these lists. If you feel this message is in error, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Hotmail blocks your email too, or you don't hear from someone withing 24-48 hours, call your contact at Crystal Group. You can find the phone number for Crystal Group at www.crystalpc.com. Mark Iams-McGuire Master CAD Designs 13222 Hidden Valley Road Grass Valley, CA 95949 phone: 530-271-7078 fax: 530-271-7088 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] wierd blacklist message
Mark: I only got that wierd message once this morning. And I've posted several times to the PEDA list today. So it's probably a virus thing. But not on my end - I've scanned my machines for viruses. Didn't find any. So maybe someone else on this list has an infected machine? Some viruses will take e-mail addresses from your address book and forge fake From: headers, then spam everyone in the address book. It could be someone who has sent or received e-mail from the Crystal Group and the PEDA list. I know I have never sent/received e-mail from the Crystal Group. If you don't have antivirus s/w, you can use Symantec's free checker at http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/ Click on check for security risks. For Linux boxes, try RAV Antivirus at http://www.ravantivirus.com/index.php They have a 30-day free trial. Disclaimer: I have no financial interest in these companies, I'm just trying to solve a problem. Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: Mark Iams-McGuire [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] wierd blacklist message Hi Ivan, Typically many ISP's filter mail by means of a blacklist to prevent spamming. My understanding is that Crystal has a very strict list and will blacklist more people than most ISP's. Are you still getting the error message? Call the ISP's involved if you are. They are just trying to protect the network from going down. I think they would have the best answer to your situation. Good luck. Mark * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] wierd blacklist message
Ivan, I got one, and we may have both gotten one from the same post, since I was replying to you. Let's see if this prompts another one on my end here, as I may be the target as opposed to you. JaMi - Original Message - From: Bagotronix Tech Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 6:42 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] wierd blacklist message Did anyone else get the message below? It looks as if that message was sent by me, but it wasn't. Someone is spoofing something. I sent no such message. Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: Bagotronix Tech Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Seperate Systems - was Roxio, Nero, Virii and crashes The message sender's address or IP address was found in one or more of the following Anti-Spam real time black lists. Crystal Groups Own BanList Please contact your system administrator or ISP for further information on how to be removed from these lists. If you feel this message is in error, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Hotmail blocks your email too, or you don't hear from someone withing 24-48 hours, call your contact at Crystal Group. You can find the phone number for Crystal Group at www.crystalpc.com. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Protel - PCAD PCB
Ian, I solved the problem last night. Layer 0 is not a physical layer. The line mentioned in the error message was the end of the ASCII file and was only one bracket. Actually the problem was in some Protel pad shapes and parts with missing reference designators. PCAD does not allow patterns without designators. The problem was to locate those hidden footprints in Protel99 because they were not in the list. It appeared to be a small mark on top overlay layer used to show the first pin of some connectors. Mira --- Ian Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12:40 AM 19/03/2003, Mira said: Hi group, I'm having problems to translate a Protel99SE PCB file into PCAD2002. It loads 99% and crashes at the end due to the following error: Error (line 26230): Could not add object to layer 0 Has anyone run into this error before? There is nothing like layer 0 in the ASCII file. Thanks for your help. Mira Mira, I suggest opening the file in a text editor and seeing what is at line 26230. You could post that here and that would give a little more help in working out what the problem is. (Layer 0 may possibly refer to a layer number rather than its name.) Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Incrementing Components
What I did just a few days ago, was copy the entire board and then select 'paste special'. Now you have several option with which you can have all designators to be copied as they are. So in one design you could have more resistors with the same name (which is what you want with such a panel). Good luck, Marijn -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Ian Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: zaterdag 15 maart 2003 6:01 Aan: Protel EDA Forum Onderwerp: Re: [PEDA] Incrementing Components On 06:28 PM 14/03/2003, Z Hylton said: I need some help. I am panelizing a number of small boards, (5 caps, two SOP16 packages). I'm using DXP and when I copy the second board, all the designator's names are changed. C1 becomes C1_1, ...the third board has designator's changed from C1 to C1_2... and so on. Does anyone know how to turn this feature off? Or maybe it's best to move everything back to 99SE once again and do the work there? What I usually do is design just one board but lay up the full panel (including tooling strips, routs (and breakoff tabs) or v-grooves, etc). So my mech layer 1 (renamed Board Outline) is a complex thing showing 2.4mm routs and break off strips if I am routing the panel, or lines crossing right across the panel (and tooling strips) if I am v-grooving. (In the case of a routed board with break off tabs, I place all the breakoff holes on all tabs - I then make a note to the PCB maker that the break off holes and Mech Layer 1 and possibly some dimension layers etc are not to be stepped and repeated, while everything else should be. The breakoff holes are easily identifiable, they are the only 0.75mm unplated holes on the board). I fully dimension the step and repeat and then get the PCB maker to do the actual step and repeat. This works very well and I always have a fully checkable design. This works a treat for me. (BTW - I set the DXP board shape to just the size of my single board, not the full panel. DXP users will know what I mean.) (This method does not work when you are trying to panelise multiple different boards - in this case I would probably use the Camtastic method.) Alternatively, use Camtastic to do the panelising. This is available in DXP. The problem with panelisation in a CAE pkg is the problem of having two files to maintain - the individual PCB and the panel. In a fully panelised design, the panel is not really an editable files. I gave up on this some time ago as it was always tiresome and subject to risk. But if you really have to panelise in DXP use the same technique you have to use in P99SE, that is Paste Special then check the Duplicate designator and possibly Keep net name. There is a forum specifically targeting DXP users. It has lots of traffic and lots of Altium involvement. http://forums.altium.com Good luck, Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
