Re: QA Automated Test coverage

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 24/10/2020 Carl Marcum wrote:

Slightly off topic is the QA Intro page [1] discusses TestLink which I don't 
think we use anymore


Well, it looks like Adfinis decided to kill it. That was set up in the 
recent era (Apache), so it should serve as a lesson: Adfinis contributed 
a server, got Google rank thanks to our prominent links and then moved 
away with our data. At least, all references to the Adfinis link should 
be removed.



and migrated the tests onto the wiki [2].


No, that was the manual. Tests were meant to be on Testlink, or at least 
I cannot find them in the wiki.


Manual Tests (it says outdated) are here [3]. Link to the Test Case 
Management is also a 404.


This is indeed obsolete. TCM is from the pre-Apache era, it was hosted 
by Oracle and, despite numerous requests done by myself and others 
around 2012, Oracle refused to contribute test cases to the ASF due to 
their unclear licensing and copyright. So all references to TCM are 
obsolete and there is no hope to get TCM testcases back, unfortunately: 
they provided very good coverage and helped building a QA community.


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Re: English Dictionaries held again by the administration

[Andrea Pescetti]

Marco A.G. Pinto wrote:
Two months have gone by since the last update, and again, it is not 
possible to download the 2010-01-01 version which I uploaded because it 
requires permission from an administrator.


(Moving the l10n and QA list to BCC; follow-up on the dev list in case)

Fixed now at
https://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/english-dictionaries-apache-openoffice

This is the usual problem. I did give Matthias and you moderator 
privileges, but apparently this is not enough.


Try again (both of you) at

https://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/english-dictionaries-apache-openoffice

and please check if you see the "Publish" and "Unpublish" options.

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Re: Please add me to the "qa-team"

[Andrea Pescetti]

Luca Genova wrote:

send a completly empty email to qa-subscribe


No, let's avoid confusion. Hugo asked, correctly, to be added to the "qa 
team" in Bugzilla, which is a role in the Bugzilla account. This has 
nothing to do (from a technical point of view) with this mailing list.


Hugo: nothing else to do besides the request you have already sent; 
Marcus or one of the Bugzilla administrators will add the requested role 
to your Bugzilla account.


If anyone else needs privileges in Bugzilla (called "QA team" or 
"canconfirm"), this is the place to ask for them.


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Re: Need HELP! with brute force extraction of TestLink cases...

[Andrea Pescetti]

Kay Schenk wrote:
If someone had admin options, we should be able to export ALL cases as 
XML. However, in order to use them, we'd need to create an XSLT file for 
them, then go through converting THAT to something, as we do with the 
Apache OpenOffice biz area.


A bulk export would still be convenient, so I hope we can get Adfinis to 
pay some attention (but I remember you tried to contact them already).


I'm confused about the final usage. So you are not advocating that we 
simply keep using Testlink (and storing the tests somewhere "just in 
case", as a backup), but you foresee we would have to migrate them to 
some other system, correct?


Licensing? Hmmm...since nearly all were written by the IBM crew, I just 
figured we were OK on this aspect.


Yes, let's keep it out of the picture indeed. Just, it is cleaner under 
all points of view if we manage to get a proper export rather than 
scraping our own site. But if the aim is not to have another Testlink, 
then this "copy" step might be needed anyway.


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Re: Need HELP! with brute force extraction of TestLink cases...

[Andrea Pescetti]

Kay Schenk wrote:

We will need to discuss further what to do with these  at some point.
And, if you find a better way to do this -- please let us know.


If the Adfinis guys were responsive, what would you recommend? I mean, 
if they gave you admin access to Testlink would this solve the problem?


Otherwise it's a lot of work to export everything just to import all 
testcases again somewhere else (and we haven't even touched the 
licensing side). You already did a lot, but if we can get the same in 
one shot by simply having you as a Testlink admin, I would continue to 
investigate that option.


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Re: Testing: Is there any interest in the old TestLink system and/or test cases?

[Andrea Pescetti]

Kay Schenk wrote:

On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 2:37 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

If this is the issue, that instance will have an administrator that can do
the export. Adfinis guys show up on the dev list when needed, so you might
want to ask there.

​Will do. Might it be OK to contact Adfinis directly about this?


Of course. I don't have any contacts, but maybe you can find something 
in the dev list archives.


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Re: Testing: Is there any interest in the old TestLink system and/or test cases?

[Andrea Pescetti]

Mechtilde wrote:

I don'tknow exactly which system you mean.


This discussion is about Testlink. See https://s.apache.org/HxCf for the 
archives.



But if we have any old notations about testing  this would help us to
create new one.


The idea is simply to get hold of the Testlink system and all testcases 
it already contains (so that we can make a backup of them, just in 
case). We haven't used it for years, and I personally have never used it 
at all, but apparently it is good enough and it would simply need to be 
reactivated.


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Re: Testing: Is there any interest in the old TestLink system and/or test cases?

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 01/02/2018 Kay Schenk wrote:
I can browse the test cases -- and there are a LOT of them -- but not do 
an export as described in the documentation


If this is the issue, that instance will have an administrator that can 
do the export. Adfinis guys show up on the dev list when needed, so you 
might want to ask there.


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Re: Organizing testing for 4.2.0

[Andrea Pescetti]

Kay Schenk wrote:

I know we have a number of Google tests incorporated currently. I don't
know much about how to construct these, but I'd like to help as wel​l.


Sure, this would be very nice to have!

But the discussion here (especially on the QA list) is mostly focused on 
manual testing by humans. So writing simple testcases down for the 
typical use of Writer, Calc and so on and then coordinating to execute 
them and share results.


Let's keep the discussion about automated testing for the dev list; 
indeed Damjan already enabled some them in trunk and it would be good to 
have more. But this is a matter for developers, while QA volunteers will 
stay focused on the manual part.



Any thoughts on this? I would be happy to investigate.


It would be wonderful to have automated coverage for the 4.1.4 
regressions to start with. This way we can guarantee that those bugs 
won't occur again in next releases.


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Re: Access denied on Dictionaries page

[Andrea Pescetti]

Marcus wrote:

Am 26.10.2017 um 22:23 schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

If we see users confused by the "double update" process we will have
to add an item to the Release Notes.

I don't understand what you want to write to the release notes.


I mean: if we start getting e-mails from people who say "I upgraded to 
version 4.1.4 and the upgrade failed since it still tells me that an 
update is available" then we should explain somewhere that the 
application updates and the dictionary updates are separate, and that it 
is expected that after upgrading to 4.1.4 you are notified that a newer 
English dictionary is available. If users actually read and understand 
messages, there will be no need for this.


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Re: Access denied on Dictionaries page

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 26/10/2017 Marcus wrote:

Am 26.10.2017 um 12:09 schrieb Marco A.G.Pinto:

Now I get an access error in the official page:
http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/english-dictionaries-apache-openoffice


maybe a temporary outage in the second where you have looked.
I've test now and it's working.


Besides the problem itself (I confirm I see the page normally too) this 
means that people who upgrade to OpenOffice 4.1.4 will immediately see a 
notice saying they should update their English dictionary.


This is quite annoying but there is nothing we can do about it right now.

For the next version we should probably, like we did in the past, agree 
that the English dictionary does not get updated for at least one month 
after release.


If we see users confused by the "double update" process we will have to 
add an item to the Release Notes.


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Re: Problems in Testlink's SMTP?

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 18/08/2017 Claudio Ferreira wrote:

I'm Claudio and I'm a AOO user since AOO was called StarOffice.


Hello Claudio, it's nice to see you are back!


I want to help in QA and took a look in QA's wiki. I tried to do login in
http://aootesting.adfinis-sygroup.org/, but as I haven't a account in this
site, tried to register and recover my password, and in both cases, return
a error of SMTP.


That system hasn't been used for any of the recent releases. We have, in 
practice, switched to informal approval testing. What wiki page did you 
consult? It's probably good to mark it as outdated.



In other hand, I remember that we already had a automated test system for
offline tests. Do we haven't more this system based in OO macros?


Do you mean VCLTesttool and its successors listed at 
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/test_automation_guide ? They 
probably do still exist, but honestly I haven't heard anyone using it 
for recent releases.


If you want to give it a try, it would be good to update the wiki page 
too. Just ask if you need a MWiki account (they are created on demand).


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Re: Bugzilla 4.1.3 RC1

[Andrea Pescetti]

Pedro Lino wrote:

​Yes the RC will be the same, but the file creation date and file size will
be different. On a FTP server it would be easy to see the new date and only
download when there is a new file.


If you have access to command-line tools,

$ svn ls -v 
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.3/binaries/it


(example for Italian builds) will give you everything you need, such as:

  15760 arielch 155643543 set 27 16:57 
Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.3_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_it.tar.gz


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Re: [DISCUSS] Release 4.2: General Topics

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 24/08/2016 Don Lewis wrote:

   * Updated bundled serf to fix a CVE and a WebDAV issue.  The FreeBSD
 port has been using the system version of the latest and greatest.


We've been discussing this separately. This will make the build system 
even more complex, but it does have advantages and brings to completion 
work started with 4.1.2.



   * Handle the Wiki Publisher and PDF Import extensions as integrated
 extensions:
 
 I've done some work on this in the FreeBSD port, but I haven't
 tackled the installer part for other platforms.


Can you elaborate on this? For example the fact that they shouldn't ping 
for updates looks problematic (not so bad, but it will require a 
reasonable release pace). And actually the document suggests that 
bundled dictionaries are handled as integrated extensions, which is not 
the case at the moment - and this allows users to get, for example, a 
fresh English dictionary when they wish.



Someone should fix the broken spellcheck problem.  It generates a lot of
complaints from our users.


We've investigated it a length; it is uncommon (it seems common due to 
the huge number of users) and like Rory and Dennis wrote this is better 
fixed with an after-the-fact fix: a tool (which ideally would become a 
menu item or a first start option) that allows to start with a clean 
profile.


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Re: [DISCUSS] Release 4.2: General Topics

[Andrea Pescetti]

Resending to 3 lists... I suggest to have a "canonical" reply-to to the 
dev list for the next messages. Andrea


Andrea Pescetti wrote:

On 23/08/2016 Kay Schenk wrote:

WARNING: This is quite long!


And the discussion was even longer, but I'll start with answering this one.

And I'll first note that:

1) Work is not starting now. We have years of code already committed and
not shown in previous releases.

2) Like for every release, we make plans but at a certain point we have
to cut the release and this "wishlist" is thus a tentative guideline.


*PRIORITIES*
1. Update the localization.
We've had quite a bit of work by the localization folks since the 4.1.1
release. This was the last release, in 2014-08-21 to import localization
updates. Currently, it seems we might also add 3 new languages: Uyghur,
Sinhala, and Icelandic with the 4.2 release. This would include both UI
translations and Help translations.


Last translations import were done in 4.1.0 and not 4.1.1 (if I recall
correctly); but this is a minor detail. There are no new languages to be
expected in 4.2.0: we have new languages in Pootle, but I don't think
any of them is ready enough for being released (this may of course
improve with time). So in short 4.2.0 means that we can add strings to
the code, which means we can make them available to translators, which
in turn means we can (we have to) update all translations.


We need volunteers to lead this endeavor. I, personally, don't know
anything about this process.


I'm slowly working on this but I still have something to find/learn.
I've sent the l10n list a mail sending that I'm planning to test a first
import in early September - just to test the process.


2. Update Java requirement from Java 1.5 to *at least* Java 1.7
I am rather adamant that we change our building requirement to Java 1.7
for all platforms. I will be changing that in our Building Guide today.


Is there a real reason for it? I see this like saying (this is just an
example, not to be taken literally) "we drop support for Windows XP
since it's old and unsupported". In short: if we need work to drop Java
1.5 then we have clear advantages in raising our requirement to 1.7,
otherwise we can simply drop the requirement saying "we won't explicitly
test compatibility with Java < 1.7"; but in that case we must provide
ways to obtain a compatible JRE for all the 4 supported platforms.


3. Issues for inclusion
We need to include submitted/tested patches since 4.0.x. This should not
include UI changes which would need to undergo a much longer test period.


The version number is not a detail. We call it 4.2.0 since UI changes
are allowed. On the other hand, we don't have to include all patches;
actually, seeing all the code that already went in, I would be more on
the conservative side here.


Additionally, issue 127068, involving analytics on our source code would
surely be worth investigating.
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127068


These are automatically found defects, good for easy fixes but probably
not really important.

I'd rather suggest that we give some attention to the 4.1.2 regressions,
especially this one (the only one so far):
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126622


*BUILDBOTS AND CONFIGURATION*
1. Move to different buildbots?


Not needed. A "nice to have" if they standardize it, but buildbots (I
mean, the Linux version they use) are not so relevant for a release.


2. Configuration Issues
Add, at least the ant version we're checking for in our configuration is
not the version recommended in our Building Guide.


The this is a bug in configure, needs its own issue and must be checked.


*PRODUCTION ENVIRONMENT* ...
It has
been suggested that we use the ASF buildbots to produce our binaries
with this release.


The ASF buildbots and releases cover two different fields. I've been
misunderstood from time to time, but just to make it clear: I would
never want that we use the buildbots for releasing (at least for Linux),
since you want a recent Linux on buildbots and on old Linux on the
release VM (where this VM is hosted can be deferred to a separate thread).


Andrea has volunteered to set up a production environment for us. SEE:
http://markmail.org/message/b4dbjdeu4llczqwt


I see that discussion has been misunderstood. I'll reply there. It
suffices to say, here, that I'm not suggesting to use buildbots for the
release builds. Which basically means I agree with your point of view in
this respect.

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Re: Dailies/Nightlies

[Andrea Pescetti]

Pedro Lino wrote:

​They are matching today. Apparently​ it takes some time (a day?) for the
page to update.


It is done automatically, but I have no idea when the cron jobs run.


​Yes, that is a workaround. So the simple answer to ftp is no.


Indeed. No FTP.


BTW does the daily build mean that the exact same build (1756231) was
compiled 7 days in a row? Isn't that a waste of energy?​


Not necessarily, since the server environment changes (we upgrade 
libraries and other). So, even if we are building the same code, it is 
still important to us to check that it builds correctly.


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Re: Issues need 4.2.0 as Target Milestone

[Andrea Pescetti]

Marcus wrote:

Target milestones depend on the product in BZ. There is no 4.2.0 target
right now (except for "gsl").


I marked (in the past) several issues as target 4.2.0, not only in gsl. 
Now I see that in

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/query.cgi
the Target Milestone box contains both "4.2.0" and "AOO 4.2.0". The 
latter should not be there, whatever product one chooses.



But now there is a new flag "4.2.0_release_blocker" which can maybe help
in the meantime.


Thanks! Of course, for a 4.2.0 release, the meaning is different than in 
the past. It will mean "something that is not fixed yet and that it must 
fixed by 4.2.0" (and it will make sense to use it when closer to the 
RC). Since we have no branch for 4.2.0 yet, and we won't until we are 
close to the release, it will not mean "something that is fixed in trunk 
and should ported to the release branch" for the moment.


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Re: Introduction as QA volunteer

[Andrea Pescetti]

Benoit Goderre wrote:

I am thankful for this opportunity to join the team


Welcome!


1. Is this project still going on? When I checked the QA page, I saw
that the last entry was made in 2013.


What page? There are many outdated pages. 
http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-qa.html is quite OK.



2. If yes, which feature(s) would need the most testing, or which
feature(s) have the most chances to contain bugs (so I can contribute and
not just test rock solid, if those ever exist, features).


As soon as we get the daily builds for Windows available again, we will 
want to test new translations and several bugfixes. You are on Windows, 
right?



3. Also, in the documentation section, it is mentioned that Virtual Box
is recommended.


The page above suggests VirtualBox as a "more sophisticated approach". 
This is correct. Most volunteers are not expected to run their tests in 
a Virtual Machine. So don't worry about this technicality, you can 
perfectly start by installing development builds on your own system.


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Re: QA bug reports

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 06/11/2015 David Haigh wrote:

Do you have a small batch of reports to be assigned to me?


Welcome to the QA list! Someone, probably Marcus, will soon give the 
right privileges to you and the other volunteers who joined today.


Then you can all use the "You can get a list of unconfirmed defect 
reports" link at

http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-qa.html
to see unconfirmed issues, with no need for someone to explicitly assign 
issues to you.


If you would like someone to double-check your work, just send to this 
list the links of issues you triaged.


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Re: Release status - Please test OpenOffice 4.1.2-RC2

[Andrea Pescetti]

Pedro Lino wrote:

One quick question: why do all the exe files in AOO 4.1.2 have version
number 4.0.9780.500? (they were 4.0.9774.500 in AOO 4.1.1)
Shouldn't it be at least 4.1.9870.500 (so that it matches the 4.1 branch)?
Or better yet 4.1.2.9870.500 (so that users could ignore the exact build
but still know which version the file belongs to)?


Yes, this is a nice find! This is clearly a cosmetic issue and if the 
number is already broken in 4.1.1 we won't fix it in 4.1.2 (it would be 
too late anyway; RC3 is being uploaded right now), but it would be nice 
if you can open an issue for it and place a comment in 
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126480 with a link to it, so 
that we know that this number should be analyzed too when updating 
version numbers.


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Re: Release status - Please test OpenOffice 4.1.2-RC2

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 18/10/2015 Pedro Lino wrote:

RC1 was
AOO412m1(Build:9780)  -  Rev. 1705625
2015-09-28 12:45:04 (Mo, 28 Sep 2015)

and RC2 is
AOO412m2(Build:9781)  -  Rev. 1707648
2015-09-28 12:45:04 (Mo, 28 Sep 2015)

The date/time is the same. Is this expected or is it a Bug?


It isn't expected. So it's a bug, thank you. Not a real bug in the code 
since it depends on the build environment, but we may want to recheck it 
for the RC3 build. In my system it is correct:


AOO412m2(Build:9781)  -  Rev. 1707648
2015-10-09 09:35 - Linux x86_64

Are you using the Windows build? Since this depends on the build 
environment, it is system-specific.


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Re: Release status - Please test OpenOffice 4.1.2-RC2

[Andrea Pescetti]

Pedro Lino wrote:

the second line in the AOO About box (apparently
only under Windows) is the date in two different formats but fails to
report what the platform is (which version of Windows and if the OS is 32
or 64 bits).


This is still on the build side. I mean, mine says Linux 64-bit since it 
was BUILT for Linux 64-bit. It doesn't extract information from the real 
environment where you are running it. And since we only distribute one 
Windows version, the most we could get there is the generic "Windows" 
string.


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Re: Release status - Please test OpenOffice 4.1.2-RC2

[Andrea Pescetti]

Hemu Hemendra wrote:

how to download latest version , i found some bugs
in previous versions. can it be resolved in upcoming versions.


The latest version (to be used for tests) is available at
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.2-rc2-r1707648/binaries/ 
(English for Windows: 
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.2-rc2-r1707648/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.2_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe 
).


Remaining tests to be done are listed at http://s.apache.org/KL1 and 
most of them now contain a simple explanation of what is needed to test.


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Re: Release status - Please test OpenOffice 4.1.2-RC2

[Andrea Pescetti]

Phani Sri wrote:

I have downloaded the following link.
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/
There I have got couple of files.


The English version for Windows is here:
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.2-rc2-r1707648/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.2_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe

If you need another version, look withing the "binaries" folder.

Do you want some issues to verify? Just open

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?bug_status=CONFIRMED_status=ACCEPTED_status=REOPENED_status=RESOLVED=flagtypes.name_id=170870=substring_format=advanced=---=FIXED=4.1.2_release_blocker%2B

and comment on the issues that are RESOLVED FIXED.

For example, 126480 is very easy: Just check that the version number in 
the window you reach through the "About" menu says correctly 4.1.2.


And 126567 asks you to check that in the same window you read Copyright 
2015 and not 2014.


For every successful check, please write that you verified it with 
version 4.1.2-RC2, English, Windows (for example).


You need a Bugzilla account to post comments: register get one at 
https://bz.apache.org/ooo if you don't have one already.


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Fwd: Release status - Please test OpenOffice 4.1.2-RC2

[Andrea Pescetti]

(I'm forwarding this call for tests to the QA list and the l10n list)

It is very important to test OpenOffice 4.1.2-RC2 thoroughly: please
download it from
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/
and use it for your normal tasks but also to mark as "VERIFIED" the bugs
listed at
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem_id=170764=4.1.2_approved_and_fixed=run_id=7

Bugs marked as RESOLVED FIXED must be set to VERIFIED or REOPENED. Note
that many are still in RESOLVED FIXED state but have indeed been
verified if you read the issue. In that case it is enough to change the
issue status, but an extra verification is always helpful.

Remember, building a new Release Candidate takes time and effort, so:
- It is time to be more careful with release blockers: you can still
propose a Release Blocker, but please accept that it will likely be
denied unless we are sure that it is low-risk and important.
- I do not exclude that an RC3 will come, but we want RC2 to be fully
tested before building it, and we must definitely avoid an RC4.

These bugs are now open for a possible RC3:
- https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126586 from Damjan; nedds
more information, asked.
- https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=107619 Bug in Find & replace
with regular expression: already accepted blocker, solution was
incomplete in RC2, now supposedly fixed
- https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126582 When trying to access
a read/only share on Sharepoint an error is shown: This is new but it
addresses the same use case of the other Sharepoint fixes
- https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126573 Dictionaries were
actually not updated in some cases, probably due to a not completely
clean build, to be investigated
- https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126588 Portuguese dictionary
to be updated: I'll now ask the l10n list to suggest other possible
dictionary updates.

So: not many bugs so far, and not so bad. But we will have the full
picture only if everybody helps in testing, it's very easy to do so.

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Re: OpenOffice 4.1.2-RC2 available (and happy birthday!)

[Andrea Pescetti]

Pedro Lino wrote:

I just installed RC2 and noticed that it is not bundled with the latest
version of the dictionaries (English and Portuguese at least).


English should be OK. Please comment on 
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126573 to verify or reopen.


I don't know about Portuguese. If you can, open a new issue: product 
native-lang, component pt or pt-br depending on the affected version(s) 
and 1) put me (pescetti) in CC; 2) Set the flag "Release Blocker ?" to 
notify the dev list.


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OpenOffice 4.1.2-RC2 available (and happy birthday!)

[Andrea Pescetti]

As a small gift for the 15 years of OpenOffice (OpenOffice was released 
as Open Source on 13 October 2000, as Louis reminded us during ApacheCon 
Budapest), we now have OpenOffice 4.1.2-RC2 available.


OpenOffice 4.1.2-RC1 has been tested for more than a week without major 
bugs or regressions reported. Almost all relevant issues were tested and 
verified fixed, even though we still need help with some.


Note that, since there is still some delay for building and uploading, 
RC2 is current as of revision 1707648 (last accepted commit, see 
https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/tags/ for the SNAPSHOT change), 
so 4 days ago.


A few reported bugs on RC1:
- RC1 was missing Linux 64-bit DEB packages and had some incorrect 
scripts for source checksums; these are now fixed.
- https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126305 additional patches 
were needed, these are in RC2
- Windows installation: a user reported "Installation aborted with the 
message that I lack access to registry". See http://s.apache.org/Z6v and 
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126587 ; RC2 should not have 
any changes in this respect, but possibly Windows users can 
explain/check/guide.
- https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=107619 is not completely 
solved, a fix came when RC2 was already being prepared and it is not 
included

- Several release blockers were addressed (Bugzilla link below)

RC2 can be downloaded from
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/
open "binaries", then the language code, then you will find installers. 
If you can't download it now, it means it is still synchronizing, try 
again in a few hours.


For QA, the link to use for verifying "release blocker" bugfixes is this 
one (you will need a Bugzilla account to see it and to verify bugfixes):

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem_id=170710=4.1.2_approved_and_fixed=run_id=7

Only the issues marked as RESOLVED FIXED are still to be checked. If you 
verify that everything works as expected, please mark the issue as 
VERIFIED FIXED (or post a comment, specifying your Operating System and 
language). It is fine and useful to have two independent verifications 
of a bug, especially on two different operating systems.


Remember: testing is important since 4.1.2-RC2 can be a release we 
actually vote upon. We are seeing a few release blocker requests coming 
in but I'll wait that everything is properly tested before seeing 
whether this deserves a RC3. So if you didn't test RC1, please test RC2; 
you can actually use it for day-to-day tasks too for a few days, for 
more realistic testing.


Replies to the QA list only, if possible, thanks.

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Re: OpenOffice 4.1.2-RC1 available for testing

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On 05/10/2015 Bruce Pope wrote:

Will Apache OpenOffice make an office suite available for Android operating 
systems in the near future?


A port has been available since 2012:
http://www.openoffice.org/porting/

But this is out of scope of the current tests, which apply to the 
platforms we support directly (Windows, Mac OS X, Linux).


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OpenOffice 4.1.2-RC1 available for testing

[Andrea Pescetti]

We have the first Release Candidate of OpenOffice 4.1.2 available for 
testing. So it's time to get serious with tests. We'll run tests for at 
least a full week as agreed.


Note: we will not vote on this Release Candidate. But it should be 
widely used for tests. Volunteers are recommended to install it and 
check both common usage and the specific bugfixes.


Builds are available at
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.2-rc1-r1705606/binaries/

Once you choose the language, the filename should be rather clear. The 
English version for Windows, for example, is at

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.2-rc1-r1705606/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.2_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe

How to help: use this link provided by Kay (you may need a Bugzilla 
account; just ask in case)


https://bz.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem=run=4.1.2_approved_and_fixed_id=7

and you will find a list of fixes. Pick one that is set as "RESOLVED 
FIXED". Verify (with the RC1) that the bug is indeed fixed, and mark it 
as VERIFIED. Ask on the list (dev or qa, depending on where you see 
this; qa preferred) if you need assistance.


Known issue: Linux 64-bit builds in DEB format are missing. We will 
recover them as soon as possible. On the other hand, this week's 
optimizations will allow much faster and direct uploads in future.


Special thanks go to Juergen and Herbert for assistance and guidance, 
and to Infra for a lot of technical help.


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Re: Bulgarian Localization

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 08/07/2015 Kay Schenk wrote:

On 06/15/2015 12:50 PM, Boyan Alexiev wrote:

In Your Bulgarian localization decimal symbol is comma, but most used is
dot. Can You generate new localization that correct this issue?
I send You generated .xml locale file.

I checked Bugzilla and no issue seems to be filed for this as yet.


I couldn't see one either. So this issue was apparently forgotten, but 
it may still be relevant for 4.1.2.


I opened
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126470
to track this. There are more comments there, but in short the patch 
changes much more than what it is supposed to fix and we will want 
feedback from the l10n list about this. In the meantime, thanks for the 
patch!


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Bugzilla maintenance next Friday

[Andrea Pescetti]

Due to scheduled maintenance (hardware upgrades) Bugzilla
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/
will be down for 3 hours next Friday (13 February), starting at 21:00 UTC.

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Re: [Bugzilla] Please add version 4.1.2 to Target field

[Andrea Pescetti]

Rob Weir wrote:

Based on past pattern, we'd add 4.1.2-dev now, and 4.1.2 once that
version has released, yes?


I thought that Target (the one I'm asking for) would always be 4.1.0, 
4.1.1, 4.1.2 without -dev and that instead Version would have the 
4.1.2-dev (before release) and 4.1.2 (after release) options. I 
don't know how this works internally in Bugzilla, so if -dev is needed 
or desirable it's OK. For sure we will need a way to set Target: 4.1.2 
(or 4.1.2-dev if this is the pattern) for bugs.


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[Bugzilla] Please add version 4.1.2 to Target field

[Andrea Pescetti]

Resending again with modified subject line. Bugzilla admins, if you need 
more admins in the team just call for help.

Thanks,
  Andrea.

On 14/01/2015 Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Resending since it was probably overlooked and two weeks passed. We need
4.1.2 in Bugzilla, at least in the Target field.
Thanks,
   Andrea.

On 29/12/2014 Andrea Pescetti wrote:

(I'm BCCing the QA list for information)

So we want to release 4.1.2. The main feature will be warning-free
digitally signed installers under Windows. Other bugfixes may be
included as well, provided we can fix them soon, in a safe way and
provided they are of some significance. As explained, translation fixes
and (English) string fixes cannot be included.

First someone with Bugzilla admin privileges should add 4.1.2 to the
Target Milestone field in Bugzilla. I would not add a flag to request
a blocker, unless someone prefers to have it too.  ...


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Re: Bugs for 4.1.2

[Andrea Pescetti]

Resending since it was probably overlooked and two weeks passed. We need 
4.1.2 in Bugzilla, at least in the Target field.

Thanks,
  Andrea.

On 29/12/2014 Andrea Pescetti wrote:

(I'm BCCing the QA list for information)

So we want to release 4.1.2. The main feature will be warning-free
digitally signed installers under Windows. Other bugfixes may be
included as well, provided we can fix them soon, in a safe way and
provided they are of some significance. As explained, translation fixes
and (English) string fixes cannot be included.

First someone with Bugzilla admin privileges should add 4.1.2 to the
Target Milestone field in Bugzilla. I would not add a flag to request
a blocker, unless someone prefers to have it too.  ...


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Bugs for 4.1.2

[Andrea Pescetti]

(I'm BCCing the QA list for information)

So we want to release 4.1.2. The main feature will be warning-free 
digitally signed installers under Windows. Other bugfixes may be 
included as well, provided we can fix them soon, in a safe way and 
provided they are of some significance. As explained, translation fixes 
and (English) string fixes cannot be included.


First someone with Bugzilla admin privileges should add 4.1.2 to the 
Target Milestone field in Bugzilla. I would not add a flag to request 
a blocker, unless someone prefers to have it too.


Then, if developers and QA volunteers could take a look at the following 
lists of bugs we can decide what to include.


The first list is a saved search by Kay, previously posted here 
(Bugzilla account required):

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=doremlist_id=163422namedcmd=4.1.x%20regressionsremaction=runsharer_id=7
Nothing there is FIXED yet, so these issues definitely need work if we 
want to see them fixed in 4.1.2.


The second list is a list of bugs I compiled, based on the (already 
FIXED, or with a patch reviewed and ready to be committed) bugs that can 
have some relevance for 4.1.2:

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=63015
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125495
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125922
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118919
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125475
Here the assessment must be on the risk to include them or not.

Then there are these two which will be fixed with the support for 
warning-free digital signatures for internal components and the main 
installer respectively:

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119949
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119017

And this one that was asked on the l10n list and should be feasible 
(Lithuania switches to Euro):

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125980

Please take a look in the next few days, and propose new ones if 
relevant (remember: string changes are not allowed, translation fixes 
are not allowed, FIXED bugs are much more likely to be accepted), but 
then I suggest that we wrap it up and start working on the release.


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Bugzilla permissions

[Andrea Pescetti]

Forwarding to the QA list so that a Bugzilla admin can give proper 
rights to Ankit. Andrea


  ---

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=44244

Comment #19 from Ankit Kumar Tekriwal ankittekriwa...@gmail.com
I want to take this issue to resolve. I don't have the proper rights to 
Take.

So provide me the permissions to assign it to me.


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Re: Hybrid PDF

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 17/10/2014 Pedro Lino wrote:

My bad for not noticing the link to the new version. ...  it should be
given more highlight.


We can ask the administrators to improve it, but honestly I wouldn't 
know how to make it even more visible than it is now.



It works perfectly! Sorry about the noise.


OK, good.


I still think that it doesn't make sense that this is an optional download.
If creating a Hybrid PDF is a feature included in AOO what is the sense
that trying to reopen the file you just created will show you an Import
ASCII dialog?


Without the extension OpenOffice cannot create or open hybrid PDFs. With 
the extension it can do both.



I have an Hybrid PDF that crashes AOO 4.2 every time when the file is
opened/dropped
However this does not happen if the PDF import extension is installed.


This is a crash to report then. The fact that what you are opening is a 
hybrid PDF is irrelevant: you are simply opening something that makes 
OpenOffice (dev version only, but please check and mention this) crash, 
and this is a priority bug.



But what I really hope is that the extension will be included in the next
release, which would solve the bug and improve AOO ;)


There are restrictions to what we can do with that extension due to 
problematic licensing of some libraries it uses. So the reason for not 
including it in OpenOffice is legal (or better: checks to make on the 
legal side) rather than technical. OpenOffice is extremely careful about 
licensing.


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Re: Hybrid PDF

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 17/10/2014 Pedro Lino wrote:

Currently the PDF import (created by Oracle) can not be installed under AOO
4.x (it works correctly with AOO 3.4.0)


Let me understand: are you installing on OpenOffice 4.x this extension

http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/oracle-pdf-import-extension

which is named Oracle PDF Import Extension (for OpenOffice 3.x) 
instead of this one (linked from the page above as the version to use 
for OpenOffice 4.x):


http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/node/17351 ?

If your problems are related to the former, try with the latter. If you 
have problems with the latter, then please write here (Ariel maintains 
the latter, not as part of his volunteering in OpenOffice strictly 
speaking; but he does maintain it).



I think that the loss of hybrid PDF editing is a real regression for AOO


Please check with the right version and report the regressions you find. 
It's still good to know.



Furthermore, opening a PDF in AOO 4.0 or 4.1 tries to convert the document
from ASCII (which makes sense) but immediately crashes AOO 4.2


Anything that crashes OpenOffice (even if you open a totally random 
sequence of bytes named test.odt) is an OpenOffice bug. So if you have 
a file (of whatever type) that crashes OpenOffice 4.2-dev (especially if 
no extensions are installed), please open an issue, attach the file 
there and send the link here.


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Re: to get bug repositories

[Andrea Pescetti]

dhyanendra singh wrote:

I am Dhyanandra Singh. I am pursuing M. Tech.  from Jaypee Institute
of Information Technology. As my thesis Work I have chosen Automatic
Duplicate bug Detection and want to use bug repository of Apache open
office for that.
I am very thankful to you if you will share your bug repository with me.


Welcome! Indeed the OpenOffice Bugzilla is full of duplicate reports, 
even if this has improved a lot with the heuristics that suggests 
possible duplicates when one enters a bug.


What kind of access do you need? I'm not a Bugzilla admin, but this is 
important to know. Bugzilla is at https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ and you 
can register there; you will need to be assigned privileges for advanced 
operations, ask here in case; I'm not sure we can provide a full 
database dump (there are occasional security-relevant bugs that are not 
publicly visible). But say what you need exactly and then the admins can 
look at it.


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Re: to get bug repositories

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 03/10/2014 dhyanendra singh wrote:

i have created an account with username singh.cs@gmail.com
mailto:singh.cs@gmail.com at https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ as you
suggested.
now tell me how can get access to the repositories.


What do you need exactly? You already have access to all bugs by 
registering (I mean: from the website you can access every bug and make 
queries). Do you want to be able to download the full Bugzilla database 
as one file? In that case, what information can be anonymized? I'm not 
sure this can be done and for sure I can't do it since I don't have the 
required permissions, but if the request is clear we can investigate and 
see what's possible.


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Re: Progress and Quality

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 17/09/2014 Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:

openoffice.git]$ git shortlog -s -n --all
...  70  Andrea Pescetti


Not to steal the merits of others... under my name there are at least 4 
people, due to the way SVN works. If I commit work by someone else, and 
this happens for example for patches contributed through Bugzilla, SVN 
(and, as a consequence, git) attributes it to me. Same for all other SVN 
committers.


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Re: Progress and Quality

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 16/09/2014 Pedro Lino wrote:

I'm wondering if I'm missing something or development really stopped/slowed
down since the 4.1.1 release?


I can't speak for the others. But since the latest visible commit is 
mine, I've been working more on the website in recent days.



On a separate note, from a Quality perspective it would probably would be a
good idea if Apache OpenOffice code was scanned by one of these Coverity
analysis


The Apache OpenOffice code is scanned by Coverity, and (since this is 
considered security-relevant) data are privately accessible to some 
developers. If I recall correctly (I've never seen them), most of the 
reports and metrics did not seem very useful, since they included a lot 
of false positives; one could silence those warnings by writing extra 
code or extra assertions just to help the analyzer understand that 
nothing was wrong, but this would be merely to please the analyzer and 
not to enhance the real quality. I haven't read the article you linked 
to yet, but if your point was Coverity should scan Apache OpenOffice 
the answer is This is already happening.


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OpenOffice community survey - Please take it!

[Andrea Pescetti]

I've prepared, with help from other community members, a survey to 
gather some quick data about the Apache OpenOffice community. This 
information will be used for my Apache Conference talk in November, to 
assess how we have matured in these two years as a top-level Apache 
project and whether we can consider the setup phase to be closed.


It's one easy, simple page:

http://survey.openoffice.org/index.php/314592/lang-en

Please take the survey now, your feedback is needed! Please answer also 
if you are just reading this list but you are not active, and please 
answer only once even if you receive multiple copies of this message 
(via different mailing lists).


If you have any comments, follow-up to the dev list only.

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Typo in Bugzilla account registration page

[Andrea Pescetti]

There is a typo in https://issues.apache.org/ooo/createaccount.cgi

To create a Apache OpenOffice (AOO) Bugzilla account
should be
To create an Apache OpenOffice (AOO) Bugzilla account

Can someone fix it please?

(Found by Csaba, in CC).

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Re: Please update Sourceforge

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 24/08/2014 Pedro Lino wrote:

In case no one has noticed, the latest version offered by Sourceforge is
still 4.1.0
http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/


Thanks, now fixed by Samer: http://markmail.org/message/3wbjfi2zy74riosr

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Re: Full Installation vs. Language Pack

[Andrea Pescetti]

Pedro Lino wrote:

I think the sentence should be rewritten to something like
Currently dictionaries are not included in language packs, only in full
installations. ...


Thanks, fixed earlier today at
http://www.openoffice.org/download/full_vs_lp.html

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Re: Full Installation vs. Language Pack

[Andrea Pescetti]

Pedro Lino wrote:

http://www.openoffice.org/download/full_vs_lp.html ...
Since OpenOffice 3.4.0 dictionaries are no longer included in language
packs, only in full installations. Dictionaries are not part of the
OpenOffice project but stored on the extensions website (hosted by
Sourceforge.net). They get improved independent of the release schedule of
OpenOffice and are offered separately. They can be updated at any time when
new versions are released.
does not make *any* sense.


Well, it does! I mean, all pieces are correct, but they are juxtaposed 
in a bad way that indeed does not clarify anything and leads to wrong 
interpretations.


Aim of the text is to say:
- Full installs have bundled dictionaries
- Language packs do not (not because of any policy, but simply because 
we haven't adapted them yet to do so; the link you see in the page goes 
to a bug report, for this reason)
- All dictionaries have their independent schedule, so their updates are 
not necessarily aligned to the OpenOffice updates and their content is 
not controlled by the project.


If you want to rephrase the page to reflect these concepts in a clearer 
way, we can surely update it.



Dictionaries are allowed to be included in the
Full Install but not on the Language packs because they are not part of
the OpenOffice project???


Wrong conclusions. It is a merely technical issue, see link in the 
original page.



Is it just me who sees a double standard here?
If they are NOT part of the Project then NONE of them can be included with
the Full Install...
I think Apache needs to make this license problem clear...


There is no double standard and no ambiguity (except for the badly 
written text). You will see a huge, successfully concluded, legal 
analysis at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-117



I hope this is just some confusion and that in the next version the
Dictionaries are also included in the Language packs (and the help page is
corrected)


That's the aim. For sure, once the bug is fixed, we have no policy 
obstacles. We just need someone to take care of this bug! 
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124473


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Re: [RELEASE]: RC2 due to dictionary updates

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 07/08/2014 Pedro Lino wrote:

I just noticed that the latest version available from the people creating
the extension is in fact 14.7.4.2 from July 8th
http://natura.di.uminho.pt/download/sources/Dictionaries/openoffice/Pos-AO/
Would it still be possible to include that version in RC2 if they update it
at the Extensions site?


I see some confusion at
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/european-portuguese-dictionaries

Maintainers of bundled extensions are expected to always upload their 
releases to the Extensions site.


The site offers you to host the extension either locally or on another 
server, but dictionaries are a build dependency, so we won't include 
external download URLs (simple reason: if uminho.pt turns off their 
server, the OpenOffice binary releases can't be built).


Here I see that the maintainers uploaded a version numbered 14.7.8.2 
that is externally hosted (on uminho.pt). To fix this, they must upload 
a version with a higher number that is internally hosted (on 
extensions.openoffice.org). Otherwise, it will happen that OpenOffice 
reports an available update upon install. The latest version appearing 
at http://sourceforge.net/projects/aoo-extensions/files/1196/ is the one 
that will be included.


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Re: Marked as duplicate of a TWELVE YEAR OLD bug

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 21/07/2014 Pedro Lino wrote:

closing a new bug with more (and recent) information
is not a good idea (and is not the way to move this project forward)


Nothing to add to what Ariel wrote. It makes perfectly sense to add a 
comment to an old, dormant bug with the new information. If you are 
worried that people will not see it, remember that all changes to any 
bugs are sent to a dedicated mailing list (issues) that most of the 
active developers follow (so, even if you don't see them explicitly in 
CC, they are informed via the list). See 
http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html


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Re: Please add current testing Version to Bugzilla

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 19/07/2014 Pedro Lino wrote:

There is no option for marking a bug as Version 4.1.1 or 4.1.1dev
I'm using 4.2.0dev since it is the closest


This is quite correct. Version 4.1.1 is not released, so we will have 
4.1.1 in Bugzilla after 4.1.1 is available, and use it only for bugs 
found in the final 4.1.1.


If I now find a bug in a 4.1.1-dev snapshot, I would check with a trunk 
snapshot if this happens there too, then report it for trunk (this is 
basically what you did) and nominate it as 4.1.1 blocker if it is a 
severe bug that needs attention now and needs to be considered for the 
coming 4.1.1-RC phase. In a way, there is no 4.1.1-dev since 4.1.1 is 
4.1.0 plus some bugfixes that are all backported from trunk (4.2.0-dev).


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Re: Missing Bugzilla components

[Andrea Pescetti]

Herbert Duerr wrote:

We already had ca for Catalan though. AFAIK it is different from the
above.


Correct. We have ca, ca-XV, ca-XR.

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Missing Bugzilla components

[Andrea Pescetti]

The Native-Lang product in Bugzilla is missing some components:

ca-XV - Valencian (AVL)
ca-XR - Valencian (RACV)

Can those be added? Thanks!

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Re: Unable to install AOO4.1.1 on Ubuntu Linux 64 bit - help

[Andrea Pescetti]

Amali Praveena Soban Kumar wrote:

Has anyone tried to install AOO4.1.1 on Ubuntu Linux 64 bit? ...
the package is of bad quality.


It's this bug:
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125176
Read that page for full information (the bug is not blocking, anyway). 
Hopefully, it will be fixed in the next snapshots.


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Re: Request for student opportunity to work on Apache OpenOffice

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 23/06/2014 Sama, Sowmya wrote:

My name is Sowmya and my teammates are Keerthana
Aravamudhan(karavamud...@luc.edu) and Sathyashree Narasimha
(snarasi...@luc.edu). We are currently pursuing our degree at Loyola
University Chicago.


Welcome! OpenOffice can indeed offer you many opportunities for 
volunteering in different fields.



Keerthana Aravamudhan - I am currently persuing my MS in Computer
Science and I'm in my 3rd semester . I have about 6 years of
experience as a Quality Assurance Engineer and I'm also familiar with
Java and C . I need to contribute to an open source project for the
duration of this semester (ending in July) . So I was hoping if I
could contribute in development and QA for 5 hrs a week.


If you wish to start immediately and you have 5 hours/week, join the 
ongoing tests. Subscribe to the QA list

http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html
and then send a note saying that you would like to join the ongoing 
tests; include your preferred username so that we can create accounts 
for you, and include details on the operating system(s) you use. Then an 
optimal way to combine your development and QA skills is to port some of 
our automated tests to Google Test. See 
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Googletest but ask the dev list for 
precise instructions.



Sowmya Sama - I am co-student of Keerthana, enrolled in MS in
Software Engineering. I have around 3 years experience as C# .Net
developer and familiar with Java. I would like to contribute along
with my team for about 5 hours a week in either Development aspect or
Documentation.


Documentation is a field where you can help immediately. We have a list 
of pages that need proofreading right now. For example:
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/UserGuide/UI and 
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/UserGuide/Formatting
We can create a wiki account for you if you send the doc list (please 
subscribe, see above) your preferred username; then you'll be able to 
edit pages. As for Development, the hardest initial step is to get 
OpenOffice to build. See 
http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-development.html to get 
started.



Sathyashree Narasimha -  I am currently enrolled as a Non- Degree
student and aspiring to pursue the Masters Degree in Information
Technology. I am familiar with C# and Java. I will be glad to
contribute 10 hours per week contributing towards testing and
documentation. ?


What I wrote above about testing and documentation applies. In your 
case, you should subscribe to both the QA and Documentation lists. You 
and Keerthana could also help in confirming unconfirmed bug reports. 
This is an easy way to help with QA and very useful to the project. See 
http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-qa.html for more information.


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Re: Fwd: June 25th CFP Deadline for ApacheCon and CloudStack Collab Conference EU - Submit Now

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 18/06/2014 Andrea Pescetti wrote:

On 17/06/2014 jan i wrote:

Now we are getting close to deadline for ApacheCon Budapest.
Please submit talks ...

- Deadline is June 25 as stated in the subject; ApacheCon is November
17-21 in Budapest
- ApacheCon site:
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-europe/
- Click on Submit talk to submit a talk; you will create an account in
the process


Reminder to all lists: two days left (24 and 25 June) to submit your 
talk proposals for ApacheCon. Please do submit a talk. Don't worry that 
someone else will submit a similar talk, we will handle it in case; and 
don't think that you have nothing important to say, all contributions 
are welcome, also non-technical ones (migrations, use cases, 
localization, QA, user support...).


It's important that all talk proposals are submitted before the 
deadline, so that we can properly allocate space for OpenOffice within 
the ApacheCon. One more reason: speakers are usually entitled to free 
admission to the whole ApacheCon. Open the link above and submit a talk now!


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Re: instruction book?

[Andrea Pescetti]

Forwarding to Melanie. Melanie, use the documentation list for 
discussing documentation in future: 
http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html . Andrea


On 24/06/2014 Christophe Strobbe wrote:

Hi Melanie,

On 24/06/2014 3:18, Melanie Lightfoot wrote:

I have downloaded open office apache about a year ago.  Use it almost everyday. 
 Thank you.

What I need to know is:  is there an instruction book for Apache Open Office 
that I can buy, and what is the cost?

The OpenOffice project maintains a list of OpenOffice books at
http://www.openoffice.org/support/books.html. Most of these books date
from 2012 (OpenOffice 3.4), i.e. before the introduction of the sidebar.
I must confess I haven't read any of them, since I've been using
OpenOffice for almost ten years now.

(There are also some other electronic resources, like these for students
at http://openoffice-uni.org/.)


I hate looking at the on screen instructions.  They are confusing to me.  I'm 
used to looking at a book.

You are probably not the only person who finds the online documentation
confusing, but most people probably don't tell us about this. If you
could say a few things about what makes the documentation confusing and
how we might improve it, that could be very helpful.

Best regards,

Christophe





Thank you for your time





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Re: Using dailies under Windows

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 12/06/2014 Pedro Lino wrote:

But this is not what I meant... Since AOO dailies install to the standard
path and use the default profile, a tester can use it as the main (and
only) installation


It's not very user friendly, but msiexec /a (or setup /a) should 
allow you to install a Windows build where you wish. See

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Run_OOo_versions_parallel
and if it works for you with 4.x ask for a wiki account here on the list 
(or the dev list), so that you can update the page with your findings!


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Re: Please disable 4.1.0 Update Info!

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 16/05/2014 Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

I submitted Issue 124913 - Disable 4.1.0 Update Info
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124913
because I think that it would be irresponsible to encourage users to
update to 4.1.0 with known issue.


I'm not sure this would give any results. Maybe OpenOffice caches the 
update information, so one would still get the update notification even 
if we retire it. But in general, 4.1.0 is the best version we can offer. 
You cite https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124717 as the 
reason but the root cause for it is an issue that has existed since 
2010, and it took a huge effort and many misunderstandings before you 
found a way to reproduce it.


I agree, though, that we should consider a 4.1.1, and maybe schedule it 
for June; we already have a couple of new languages and some bugfixes, 
we have an ongoing session of post-release tests and in a few weeks 
we'll probably be ready to wrap it up and see what's best to do.



I also think that there should be a hint in 4.1.0 Release Notes under
Known issues


Sure. I see it's there now and it's good to have it there.

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Re: AOO Post 4.1 Test Starts! Call for volunteers!

[Andrea Pescetti]

Yuzhen Fan wrote:

OpenMandriva is not listed in platform list related to AOO 4.1, then I have
assigned you 10 test cases on Redhat Linux 32bit, you can run them on your
OpenMandriva 32-bits rpm based OS.


Please include also Julia (in CC). She volunteered on this list on March 
19th for Linux Mint (apt-get based, so based on the reasoning above she 
could be assigned Debian/Ubuntu tests) and she wrote me she hasn't been 
assigned tests yet for 4.1.0-RC... so let's fix this with the current 
post-release tests!


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Re: [CWiki] Account Whitelisting!! (username-Ritu Swain)

[Andrea Pescetti]

Ritu Swain wrote:

Please add me to the people list in Confluence.


Welcome, account swain.ritu whitelisted.

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Re: New Bug reporters March 2014

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 01/04/2014 Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

in March 2014 we have got 47 new AOO Bug reporters, who reported all
together 55 bugs:


This kind of information is very useful and nice to see. I believe it's 
a nice trade-off between valuing individual merits and not insisting on 
the competition that would inevitably penalize newcomers. Well, good 
material for one of the next Weekly News if we continue the tradition!


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Re: Wework Wiki: Test Case Management

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 28/03/2014 Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Test_Case_Management
Needs some rework before we can add a Link to Bugzilla Component. I am
not familiar with that stuff.


That page has absolutely nothing good. Quaste and TCM are things from 
the past. And you know it perfectly, so maybe I don't understand what 
you are looking for.


Links to components follow this pattern:
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/enter_bug.cgi?product=Writercomponent=help
but I'm not sure this answers your question.

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Re: Newcomer

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 19/03/2014 Julia Abnora wrote:

Hi Аll. My name is Yulia. I am from Odessa, Ukraine. My education is
bachelor of Computer Science direction Automation and Control. Now, I want
to be Quality Assurance Engineer. I hope to get here practical knowledge to
become a professional in the future.
Operation systems: Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 and Linux Mint
  Bugzilla account - pan.abn...@gmail.com
  Testlink account - Abnora


Hello Yulia, I didn't see follow-up to this e-mail but I assume you were 
assigned some tests. Well, welcome to OpenOffice and it's important for 
us to know if OpenOffice runs smoothly under Linux Mint. What's your 
experience with that? Did you have the occasion to try the 4.1.0-RC 
versions on Mint?


Answers to the qa list please.

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Re: Bugzilla, how to request confirmation/release-block?

[Andrea Pescetti]

Tal Daniel wrote:

Hi, I've opened a bug about a year ago, and since then it hasn't been
confirmed.
How can I promote its confirmation, and even release-block flag?
E.g. https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121193


You set a flag for release blocker (with value: ?, which means 
requested). In the right column you should see:

Flags: None yet set (set flags)

If you cannot set the flag (due to permissions) ask here and we will 
either give you permissions or handle it while you don't have 
permissions (or, likely, we'll do both!).


Note: in this moment requested release blockers need to be really 
blocking to be accepted. But don't worry too much. Just, consider that 
release blockers can be denied due to the fact that at a certain point 
we have to release, so the bar for a bug to be a blocker raises every day!


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Re: Bugzilla, how to request confirmation/release-block?

[Andrea Pescetti]

Tal Daniel wrote:

Can't see this column, maybe due to permissions. Yes please, give me
permissions to do so.


I don't have admin rights in Bugzilla, but someone with admin rights 
will likely pick up this thread and give you privileges.



+Question: who reviews bugs who are just reported? someone is notified
about them? (i.e. who reads issues@...)


I've now marked the bug as possible blocker. The dev list is 
automatically notified. Any follow-ups should go there.


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Re: Specifications for Enhancement Requests

[Andrea Pescetti]

Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124455 ...
I think for complex requests we should create something like a short
specification where we collect all facts and thoughts, try to reach
common sense how we should proceed.
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Specification_template seems a little
oversized, too complex and so rather deterring.


Contrary to popular belief (at least in some circles), many things at 
Apache became easier, not more complex! So: for sure we won't be 
requiring that specification template any longer.


What we have seen at Apache is something like Oliver's specification for 
his work on input fields:

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Writer/Input_Fields
(and Andre and others wrote clean, easy specification pages too).

In all cases, though, this was maintained directly by the developer 
working on a feature. So I suggest that you give a real developer 
(probably Oliver in this case) the possibility to assess the idea and 
tell us if it makes sense and how complex it is to implement. Then, 
depending on his feedback and subject to availability of someone who 
knows, it can be developed by an existing developer, proposed for a 
Summer of Code project and so on.


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Re: New QA Volunteer

[Andrea Pescetti]

Rob Weir wrote:

We had some spam issues on the MWiki and new accounts were suspended.
But Andrea might be able to help you get in.


Welcome Jochen, account JochenNitschke created. You should have 
received a notification just now with instructions on how to login at 
https://wiki.openoffice.org


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Re: [RELEASE]: refined AOO 4.1 beta schedule

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 27/02/2014 jan i wrote:

just for my understanding, dont we need to vote on the beta as well as the
release. We send the beta out to general public, that would normally
require a vote (might be a fast one).


Everything has already been clarified well, i.e.,
1) We vote on a thing that Juergen proposes to make available as 
OpenOffice 4.1 beta - We make the Beta available for download
2) We vote, a few weeks later, on a thing that Juergen proposes to make 
available as OpenOffice 4.1 - We make 4.1 officially available for 
download
but, for other people reading this list (I know you know), a fast vote 
cannot be anything less than the usual 72-hours voting procedure, unless 
we are so fast to gather feedback from everybody in less than 72 hours. 
So the two votes are formally identical, even if the second one will 
surely impact more users and will require that we consider stoppers more 
carefully.


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Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: Newbie to openoffice

[Andrea Pescetti]

Kamini Bonde wrote:

Hi Andrea,
I would like to participate on  Writer module.  Kindly assign me the test
cases so that I can start with.


Hi, testcases are not assigned by me, but by volunteers on the QA list 
(in CC). I'm keeping the other messages below for context. Whoever 
replies: please CC Kamini. Kamini: consider subscribing the QA list, see 
http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html

Regards,
  Andrea.


-- Forwarded message --
From: Kamini Bonde kamini.bend...@gmail.com
Date: 11 Feb 2014 11:42
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Newbie to openoffice
To: Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org
Cc:

Hi,

Thanks for the information. Also regret for the late response from my side.
I have installed open office as suggested.
Kindly suggest the next task.

-kamini.
On 8 Feb 2014 02:43, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:


I'm not sure Kamini saw the answer. Forwarding (below). Andrea.


   ---
Re: Newbie to openoffice
Tue, 4 Feb 2014 11:09:58 +0800
From: Shenfeng Liu liush...@gmail.com
To: d...@openoffice.apache.org

Kamini,
   Sorry for the late response. It is Chinese New Year Holidays this week,
so I believe Liu Ping is enjoying her vacation now.
   Please go to: http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/#winsnap and
install Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.0_Win_x86_install_lang.exe_rev_num.exe
(
e.g. Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.0_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe_1560773.exe ).

- Shenfeng (Simon)



2014-02-02 Kamini Bonde kamini.bend...@gmail.com:

  Hi ,

I have created   account on test link and my id is -ambitious.k
Also have created account on apache bugzilla .
I have a couple of queries here.
1] Do I need to introduce to qa team.
2] What should i install on my windows7 to study the application
openoffice. Link??

Thanks
Kamini.


On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Liu Ping doneyours...@gmail.com
wrote:


Hi, KAMINI

Welcome to join in QA team

If you have interest on AOO 4.1  FVT, please send your platform and
Testlink ID (if you haven't a Testlink account, you can register
one[1]), and I will assign test cases to you.
You should also get installation sets from dev snapshot [2] and report
issues in Bugzilla [3]

[1]http://aootesting.adfinis-sygroup.org/index.php
[2]http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/#linsnap
[3] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/

Thank you!


On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Kamini Bonde 

kamini.bend...@gmail.com

wrote:


Hi,
I am kamini from India.I am an engineering graduate and have been

working

in the field of software Testing since 5 years. I found openoffice to

be

quite exciting as its an open source application development. Looking
forward to join the QA team so I learn more on testing and an

opportunity

to work with people around the globe.

Regards,
Kamini.







--
With Regards,
Kamini Bonde










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Re: [Bug 122235] Connection fails with 502 Error reading from remote server

[Andrea Pescetti]

Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

Andrea Pescetti schrieb:

Bugzilla is not broken. There is simply a maintenance window

sarcasmI should have known. .../sarcasm


I updated https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122235 with my 
findings from the last months. I'll follow your discussion with Infra. 
Hopefully we can nail the problem and solve it.


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Re: Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz_2014-01-17_04\:11\:25_1559006.tar.gz fails to install

[Andrea Pescetti]

Andreas Säger wrote:

Another issue: Is it really necessary that my AOO 4.0.1 gets overwritten
without warning? The Sun releases could be tested in their own profile
and install directory.


I'm only addressing this issue: you can use the archive build (the arc 
file) if you are just testing functionality and not packaging.


The RPM build contains relocatable RPMs (i.e., with specific RPM options 
you can install them where you wish). Probably there is a way to 
relocate the DEB packages too. 
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Run_OOo_versions_parallel could be 
helpful: in the RPM case, it seems correct but unnecessarily complex, 
since in practice it's enough to run something like (one line)


$ rpm -ivh --dbpath $install_path/.rpm --nodeps --prefix $install_path *.rpm

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Re: recovery is not working and blocks all of my files

[Andrea Pescetti]

Forwarding Yuzhen Fan's questions (below) to Ed, who is not subscribed 
to the list. Andrea


Yuzhen Fan wrote:

Hi, thanks for reporting!

I cannot reproduce the issue you report, to make us on the same page, could
you please list the steps in sequence, as well as screenshots if necessary?
I have some questions to current problem description as below (in *blue*):


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:33 AM, lyle edward stansbury
edstansb...@msn.comwrote:


Ed Stansbury



I have many files that I can not open in OpenOffice.org Document
Recovery.



1. It's not expected to open files in window  OpenOffice.org Document
Recovery, but files to be recovered will be listed in that window. What do
you mean for open?

2. Do you want to say can not or can as you says only one file that
will not open as below, I do not quite understand



There is only one file that will not open.  It is a spread sheet and is
large.

2013 Investments November and December,  in the Status section it

states Not Recovered.  Without a recovery button on this page how



3. What buttons do you see in page now, are those Next and Cancel?
Could you please send screenshot of what you are seeing?



do I recover this file.  Unless this file is recovered or removed in some
way

the Open Office program will not open.



MY e-mail is edstansb...@msn.com.



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Re: Further test documents from POI

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 08/11/2013 Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

I have searched for test documents, especially for OOXML and stumbled
over the test-data [1] from our Apache friends of the POI project.
[1] http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/poi/trunk/test-data/


They are good resources and we can use them. We should just be careful 
in not adding those to our released materials (it's unlikely, as they 
are just test documents), since a recent discussion on legal-discuss 
showed that not all of them are under AL2. In some cases, as it may 
happen for our import issues, the file is attached to Bugzilla by a user 
and not by the original author, and it is taken from there.


See http://markmail.org/thread/hqzyykczuihm7fy4 for more.

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Re: Pre-release testing

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 18/11/2013 Institute of Goldfish - Edwin Tapiwa Mapenzauswa wrote:

Dear Apache!
Could you please include us on your pre-release testing list.


Hello Edwin, you should subscribe to this mailing list to receive calls 
for testing volunteers.


Send an empty e-mail message to qa-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org and 
respond to the confirmation request you will receive. This way you will 
receive all calls for volunteers and QA-related information about 
OpenOffice.


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Re: [BUG] XSL Stylesheet markup on CSS from Wizard

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 18/09/2013 Alexandro Colorado wrote:

I update the XSLT directly on the binary. Both stylesheets are ascii so you
can verify them here:
$[openoffice_home]/share/config/wizard/web/layouts/layoutX.xsl and
layout.xsl


Patch now committed (patched trunk, rebuilt OpenOffice, verified). It 
took a while, thanks for your patience. See

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=95765
for details.

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Re: AOO 4 unusable under Linux64?

[Andrea Pescetti]

Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

Edwin Sharp and some other users found several bugs [1] under Linux64,
in summary the conclusion seems to be that AOO currently is more or less
unusable with Linux 64.


It is usable for me. I tried to reproduce one of the problems 
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123360 and I couldn't. I 
tried to reproduce a few other ones and I can confirm them, but in the 
cases I examined these problems are in 4.0.0 too. One of them, 
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123359 is a repeatable 
crash and should definitely be addressed for 4.1.0 (too late for 4.0.1).


Edwin uses the DEB packages while everybody else here probably tested 
with the RPM packages, but if packaging is correct this difference 
shouldn't justify the bugs he sees.


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Re: [BUG] XSL Stylesheet markup on CSS from Wizard

[Andrea Pescetti]

(follow-up to dev, please)

On 16/09/2013 Alexandro Colorado wrote:

Any update on this? This fix seems simple enough to promote the patch.


The fix is indeed minimal, but let's make sure it is properly tested. 
How did you test it?


Did you build OpenOffice with the patch applied and tried the Web Page 
wizard? (This might sound overkill for a patch that simply corrects a 
CSS class name, but it doesn't harm and if you wish I can make this 
check for you, just ask).


Or did you apply the patch (and which one? the first one, the second one 
or both?) to an installed OpenOffice and tried with the Web Page Wizard?


References:
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=95765 Bug description
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/attachment.cgi?id=57656 First patch
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/attachment.cgi?id=57657 Second patch


I tried doing the commit but get an repo error:
svn: Commit failed (details follow):


We will have to check this too. But let's get the patch tested, then 
move to this.


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Re: Permission for user

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 23/08/2013 daf safaa wrote:

Hi I need 'commit rights' so I can confirm the bugs on Bugzilla.


What you need is called canconfirm rights. One of the Bugzilla 
administrators (not me) will read this e-mail and can assign rights to you.


To assign you these rights, it is important that you are already 
registered in Bugzilla at https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ with this same 
e-mail address: dafsafaa(AT)gmail.com ; if this is not the case, please 
do it or ask if you have doubts.


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Re: Some thoughts on quality

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 15/08/2013 Rob Weir wrote:

A thought experiment:   If we ran the existing test automation on
4.0.0, how many of the bugs that we're fixing in 4.0.1 do you think
would be detected?


I would expect this 4.0.1 blocker issue (wrong results in certain Calc 
functions) to be detectable by automated testing:

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122997

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Re: Issue with defining default format

[Andrea Pescetti]

Edwin Sharp wrote:

No list of formats in Tools - Options...


Tools - Options - Load/Save - General.

In the Italian version I see a writer8 in the list that is definitely 
a bug, but it will need to be investigated to see if this happens due to 
profile migration, translation issues...


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Re: Updating BZ versions for next releases

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 05/08/2013 Rob Weir wrote:

I'd love to hear your thoughts on this, even if it is just a quick +1.


Here's my quick +1, with a question: when I report a bug (typically a 
small regression) that I would like to see fixed in the possible 4.0.1 
release, shall I already set the Target to 4.0.1? In ancient times this 
was left to the developer who had accepted the bug, but we are now less 
strict in Bugzilla usage. And setting the target to 4.0.1 would help in 
evaluating if/when we need a 4.0.1.


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Re: Test on Mac

[Andrea Pescetti]

Forwarding the answer to Edoardo, who is not subscribed to the list. 
Yuzhen Fan, you might want to do the same in private for the other 
volunteers: often people who write for the first time are not subscribed 
to the list and won't read replies, so I'd recommend using Reply All 
when answering. Andrea


On 21/05/2013 Yuzhen Fan wrote:

Edoardo,

Thanks for your volunteering, I cannot figure out your Testlink ID, please
could you specify your Testlink ID, then I will assign you test executions
in TestLink (Testlink: http://aootesting.adfinis-sygroup.org/index.php).

Regards,
Yu Zhen


On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 12:19 AM, Edoardo Panfiliedoa...@aspix.it  wrote:


This is my uname -a
Darwin shadowfax.local 12.3.0 Darwin Kernel Version 12.3.0: Sun Jan  6
22:37:10 PST 2013; root:xnu-2050.22.13~1/RELEASE_**X86_64 x86_64

Do you still need volunteers to do some test on Mac?

If yes, where can I start?

greetings
Edoardo

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Re: Introducing myself

[Andrea Pescetti]

Ciao Michele, ho visto che hai scritto qualche giorno fa alla mailing 
list ooo-qa per segnalare la disponibilita' a dare una mano nei test di 
OpenOffice.


Ti consiglio di iscriverti (secondo le istruzioni in
http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-qa.html che ti hanno gia' 
segnalato) alla mailing list QA inviando un messaggio vuoto a 
qa-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org e rispondendo alla richiesta di 
conferma che riceverai. Nota che hai gia' ricevuto varie risposte al tuo 
messaggio, ma non so se sei iscritto alla lista. Le trovi su 
http://markmail.org/thread/7btzs44sylq27q4o


Consiglio anche l'iscrizione alla mailing list in italiano che usiamo 
per coordinare le attivita' dei volontari:

progetto-it-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org e stessa procedura.

In questo modo vedrai passare le varie richieste di aiuto e potrai 
scegliere come contribuire. Se servono ulteriori indicazioni scrivi pure 
a una delle due mailing list.


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Re: Start AOO 4.0 Full Regression Test - missing keyboard navigation and accelerators in test cases

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 07/05/2013 Andrea Pescetti wrote:

We do have an accelerator bug in the latest 4.x snapshot, feel free to
post to Bugzilla if confirmed. In Calc, Alt+O opens F~ormat but, within
Format, there is no accelerator for the Flip command (and anything
below it, apparently) since F, L, I, P are all taken by other commands.
This might be one of the cases where we need manual definition (for
example, mapping AutoFormat to m; or find and improve the algorithm!).


Posted as https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122288

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Re: Start AOO 4.0 Full Regression Test - missing keyboard navigation and accelerators in test cases

[Andrea Pescetti]

Rob Weir wrote:

On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 3:42 PM, janI wrote:

if/when we have keyboard automated testing, it would be an easy job to
write a script that maps the keyboard and accellerators to any language.
That would allow us to run the same tests in any language.

I was hoping for something closer to present capabilities.  For
example, accelerators are defined in resource files, yes?


Accelerators are defined algorithmically by OpenOffice when not 
specified, and the algorithm avoids collisions. So the recommendation 
for translations is not to specify an accelerator unless you know what 
you are doing.


Accelerators in PO files are marked by ~: F~ormat means that the 
accelerator is the letter O.


We do have an accelerator bug in the latest 4.x snapshot, feel free to 
post to Bugzilla if confirmed. In Calc, Alt+O opens F~ormat but, within 
Format, there is no accelerator for the Flip command (and anything 
below it, apparently) since F, L, I, P are all taken by other commands. 
This might be one of the cases where we need manual definition (for 
example, mapping AutoFormat to m; or find and improve the algorithm!).


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Re: QA REPORT: spreadsheet with DDE

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 01/05/2013 Daniel Alvaro wrote:

I was watching the bug 120496
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120496: The problem is When
opening a spreadsheet containing DDE() functions, why has OOo to ask if I
want to update the style of the linked file to the model I used to create
the linked file? ...
How can I solve this bug? And what status I need to put?


It is an ENHANCEMENT. The request stays open, we patiently wait that a 
developer has time to look at it, and you might suggest an 
implementation detail (like adding a Don't ask again checkbox to the 
dialog).


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Re: Download latest version 4.0

[Andrea Pescetti]

hector jimenez wrote:

Hi, im Hector jimenez and i would like someone provide me the link to
download version 4.0 of Apache open office for testing purposes


Welcome! Download the latest snapshot from here:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds

and more precisely from this section:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshotfullsets

Please note that everybody is a volunteer here, so you needn't send the 
same request three times within a few hours. Most of the times, you will 
get a reply within a couple of days. (So, no need to repost your 
Testlink question; someone else will likely answer it soon!).


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Re: QA BUG 119023 Negative indentation leads into non-visible text-parts

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 27/04/2013 Diego Valle Rosado wrote:

I was checking the bug https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119023
I reproduced this issues and I got the same result on AOO 3.4.1 and AOO 4.0
unsing Win7, but I don't know if this is a defect.
It's similar to the bug 69537 (close-invalid).
Someone could tell me whether this bug is a defect or not?


I tend to agree with
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=69537#c2
that this is invalid. Changing the behavior might have backwards 
compatibility problems, and its probably not worth it.


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Re: QA REPORT.

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 11/04/2013 Daniel Alvaro wrote:

Hello, I'm wathing this bug:
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121325
The user is using win xp and AOO 3.4.1
The problem is open office crashes every time since he updated.
How can I help you and how can I close this bug?


The comment in that bug is probably just right. You can resolve as 
irreproducible and say it depends on the Profile related crashes issue 
(I don't have the number handy, it was opened by orw, Oliver-Rainer 
Wittman).


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Re: [QA][Weekly Report] Weekly Defect Status by 20130401

[Andrea Pescetti]

AOO Volunteer wrote:

Just for the record, I think sidebar = vertical ribbon = bad idea.


The menu is not going away anyway, so we won't be imposing a new 
approach. Many people will find the new one more convenient, but those 
who dislike it can continue using the traditional menu system.


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Re: OpenOffice 4 Beta

[Andrea Pescetti]

Giovanni Preda wrote:

My bugzilla username is: preda.giova...@gmail.com
I'm ready to recive my first 10 bug


I've seen you have already started the sidebar tests, great! They are 
very important too and have priority at the moment.


Let's proceed like this as for confirming bugs: we won't assign you 10 
precise bugs since priority goes to the sidebar testing at the moment, 
but, when and if you have extra time, you can just login to Bugzilla, 
click on new in last week, pick some bugs that are still UNCONFIRMED 
from the list, and see if you can confirm them. For any doubts, just 
write here again.


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Re: QA REPORT

[Andrea Pescetti]

Daniel Alvaro wrote:

Thank you ,  I  have other question, what it's the meaning of the phrase
FIXED ON  TRUNK or how can use it?


Fixed on trunk means that the bug is fixed in the main OpenOffice 
development line.


Periodically (every few weeks), snapshot are made available, see 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOO3.5

and (for daily builds)
http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/

Depending on when something was fixed on trunk, you should find it fixed 
in the latest stable version (3.4.1), or in the latest snapshot, or in 
the latest daily build.


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Re: Feedback on work

[Andrea Pescetti]

AOO Volunteer wrote:

Confirming bugs for quite a time now but don't know if what I do is
correct/wrong, useful/useless.
Is there a way to get feedback on the work done?


I had a look at a dozen issues you handled and everything seems good! I 
just raised the Importance (P3 - P2) in one case. We are now less 
strict on the meaning of fields, but reproducible crashes should be P2.


Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: [QA REPORT]

[Andrea Pescetti]

jdaniel.alvaro wrote:

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=115854  and he said that in
the option search and replace in calc he can't search numbers only words
in the cell. the Issue Type is a enhancement?


Yes, enhancement (though, for example, searching dates is complex due to 
the fact that we have a date, like today, internally stored as a number, 
and many possible representations of it, like 9/2/2013, 2/9/2013, 9 
Feb 2013...)


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Re: bugs being rejected or being confirmed as solved.

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 03/02/2013 janI wrote:

At the moment we have not documented how to build AOO equavilent to the
downloable binary image, something I hope will change in the future.


Aren't the switches listed at
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds
those we use for release too? If not, I agree that they should 
definitely be updated.


Regards,
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Re: Introducing Steve Culver

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 14/01/2013 Steve Culver wrote:

Thanks for giving that a try Andrea. Now the mystery is even deeper.
I'm using Windows 7. Might that be the difference?


If you repeat exactly the three steps I listed below, where does the 
behavior of your version of OpenOffice differ? The spellchecker will 
highlight the wrong word in red (in the spellchecker window, I mean); 
does the highlighting include the period?


Regards,
  Andrea.


1) New Writer document, language set to English

2) I type This text contains a wrong worrd. Testing.

3) I run the spellchecker (F7), it suggests to replace worrd with word, I click 
Change and the period is preserved.

Re: Introducing Steve Culver

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 12/01/2013 Steve Culver wrote:

To make my first QA observation, I've noted that ever since I've used
OO, when the spellchecker changes the last word in a sentence, it
deletes the period. I'd like to see that fixed.


Welcome, Steve! Actually I can't reproduce this bug with version 3.4.1.

1) New Writer document, language set to English
2) I type This text contains a wrong worrd. Testing.
3) I run the spellchecker (F7), it suggests to replace worrd with 
word, I click Change and the period is preserved.


Regards,
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Re: Confirming bug reports: Some of the things we see

[Andrea Pescetti]

Rob Weir wrote:

I'll probably turn this into a wiki page once we're in agreement, but
I wanted to get some feedback, especially from the old timers on the
project, how to treat the common categories of imperfect defect
reports we receive.  ...
Any other common cases we should talk about?


8) Valid bug reports that apply to older versions of OpenOffice but not 
to the current one, for various reasons (including bugs related to 
components that have been replaced in the meantime), We should resolve 
them as INVALID (or WORKSFORME?) and instruct the user to download a 
current version, or that anyway no bugfix releases are planned for the 
3.3.x and earlier series.


9) Bug reports that apply to anything else than this project, be it 
extension packages (including bundled dictionaries) or derivative 
products, or upstream components. It is complex to understand what to do 
here. When possible, I close them INVALID but include a link to the 
relevant issue tracker. When not possible... well, this is an 
interesting issue. Surely they are INVALID, but if someone reports a bug 
in the French dictionary we should ideally have a way to inform the 
maintainer. For the time being, one would need to open the extension 
package, lookup the relevant maintainer and e-mail him in private.


Regards,
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Re: Volunteer QA for Open Office

[Andrea Pescetti]

Forwarding Bin Guo's answer (below) to Elgar. Elgar, remember to 
subscribe to the QA mailing list if you don't want to miss answers. 
Instructions at the links below. Andrea.


Bin Guo wrote:

Welcome Elgar!
You can start from here:
New Volunteer Orientation
http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/index.html
Introduction to QA
http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-qa.html

Thanks,
Bin Guo

2013/1/3 Elgar Estebanelgareste...@hotmail.com


Hello there,

I would like to be a volunteer QA tester for Open Office. My background is
in software testing for the past 15 years. I will love to hear from you
soon.

Thanks.

Best regards,

Elgar Esteban

Re: building aoo-3.4.1 source code problem need you help

[Andrea Pescetti]

laoyi419 wrote:

Hi Andrea,
I have fixed the error about building the embedserv module.
ButI don't know how to develop the source code with VC2008


You likely missed Regina's very informative answer. Please find it at
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-qa/201212.mbox/browser

If you don't want to miss answers, you need to subscribe to this 
discussion list. The mechanism is: you send an empty mail to the 
subscribe address and then respond to the confirmation request you 
will receive. You can find a list of all subscribe addresses, for our 
many mailing lists, at

http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html
(if you want to develop, the dev list is probably better than the QA 
list, at least for advice with building OpenOffice; but you can probably 
still use the QA list until this issue is solved).


Regards,
  Andrea.