date:20140220


On 02/20/2014 07:45 AM, Michael Hechmer wrote:
I have tried running a 9 speed chain on 8 speed rings and found it 
problematic.


YMMV.  Every one of my bikes has 8 speed rings (most have XTR M900 
cranks) and have experienced zero problems.




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Re: [RBW] Re: Just what is oversized tubing?

On 02/20/2014 07:10 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote:

At the moment, the skinnier tube, low-trail bikes are mostly the domain of custom framebuilders.
For most people, a custom frame is not a realistic option. From that perspective, the formerly
standard diameter tubing doesn't really exist. So I have a customer come in bursting with ideas out
of the latest BQ, and I have to be the bad guy and say, sorry, that stuff isn't real.
But now their current bike, which was great last week, is unsatisfactory on account of the
oversized tubing. As if the formerly standard diameter tubing, by itself, determines
whether a bike is any good or not. We all know it's not that simple.

I don't know about most people but looking around me at bike club
rides, it seems to me most of the carbon road bikes I see go for
somewhere in the $3000 - $6000 range. The stock geometry Boulder frames
-- Allroad 650B, Brevet 700C and Road Sport 700C -- all of which are
available with thin wall non-oversize tubing run roughly $1300-1500,
and it wouldn't be very difficult to source a decent $1500 build kit.
That says to me a nice standard diameter tubing framed bike is available
for those who wish it for the same money as they'd spend for a carbon
road bike at their LBS. So how is that not real?

I can understand how someone might come to the conclusion that a bike
that was perfectly satisfactory last week is now less than optimal: they
might have experienced something better since last week. One dimension
of better might be a more appropriate amount of stiffness.

This is not to say stiffness is the only dimension; but it is to say the
old adage that you can never have too much stiffness is just not so.

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Re: [RBW] bike commute meals

2014-02-20 Thread Scott Henry

I like the 99cent sausage burrito from McDonald's with the hot salsa.  Its
not truly hot, but its better than nothing and I feel dorky bringing my own
salsa to workPaired with a Stanley thermos of coffee, it a great start.
Scott
Dayton, OH



On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 11:50 AM, allenmichael allenmich...@mac.com wrote:

 My go-to is homemade muesli with lots of nuts,unsweetened dry cranberries,
 dry sour cherries, date pieces, and some oats. Each batch is a little
 different. Sometimes a little coconut or something else that looked good in
 the bulk bins. I put it in a container and pour a little maple syrup on it.
 When I get to work, I pour  hot water over the top, let it sit for about
 five minutes. I find it very satisfying.

 Michael Allen

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sugino XD600 shifting issue - jamming when downshifting

2014-02-20 Thread Avery Wilson

I use a 110 mm bottom bracket on all three of my bikes with the XD triple 
crank. I also use 8 speed cassettes and chains. All are guess-a-gear.. I mean 
friction! 

That said, I have yet to have that issue. Are you using an 8 or 9 speed rear? 
Would it be worth a $20 sram chain with the quick link and 5 minutes to swap in 
there and see if it fixes it? 

Good luck on your 400k either way! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Retrofitting Riv custom for rails to trails riding

I have about 5-700 fast and comfortable miles on my Lierres.  One tiny
puncture flat (tiny in-and-out from something, I never found the foreign
object), easily patched.

If you're really worried about flats, try the Soma Xpress, Fatty Rumpkins
or Marathon HS420s (in rough order of weight/puncture resistance).  I'll
probably try the Xpress tires when the Lierres wear out.  They make them
with red, white, and black tread, too.


On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 11:45 PM, Mike Schiller
mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote:

 If I do the Oregon Outback ride I will use Quasi Moto's or Thunder Burts.
   That is what Travis Cooper suggested as well as the VeloDirt guys.

 ~mike


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Re: [RBW] Re: Sugino XD600 shifting issue - jamming when downshifting

2014-02-20 Thread Avery E Wilson

Oops saw you're running 9 speed rear. Never mind the chain swap suggestion!
On Feb 20, 2014 8:59 AM, Avery Wilson avewil...@gmail.com wrote:

 I use a 110 mm bottom bracket on all three of my bikes with the XD triple
 crank. I also use 8 speed cassettes and chains. All are guess-a-gear.. I
 mean friction!

 That said, I have yet to have that issue. Are you using an 8 or 9 speed
 rear? Would it be worth a $20 sram chain with the quick link and 5 minutes
 to swap in there and see if it fixes it?

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Re: [RBW] About to do my first Bosco Bullmoose front end

Waterford doesn't recommend brazing for rack mounts, at least as a
retrofit.  They said that the connection isn't as strong as welding.  They
recommend welding eyelets on to the dropouts.  And even then, they say they
won't warranty it.

The best answer is forged dropouts with eyelets built in.  They'd swap the
dropouts if any would fit.

I'm still tempted to send it to them to get eyelets welded on and a
repaint.  But I'll probably hold out another couple years, and see what I
can bodge together more cheaply.

Tim


On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Philip Williamson 
philip.william...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've seen a retroreflective bike at the Oregon Manifest, and you're right,
 the daylight color isn't very attractive. Kind of a muddy fog color. BUT...
 orange reflective tape in a fat/thin 'cigar band' on a tube or two might
 spark it up. Top tube near the head tube, maybe?

 Philip
 www.biketinker.com


 On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 12:07:10 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 It looks so cool!  U-S-A!  U-S-A!

 Anyway, if I get braze ons on mine I'll probably just get it powder
 coated.  The top-secret ambition I have it to get a bike powdercoated with
 retroreflective powder.  So your whole bike is the reflector.  I already
 have a velocity wheelset that has reflective powder, but a whole frame
 would be really cool.  It's a boring gunmetal grey in the daylight, though.
  :(

 I'm with you on the orange/grey Hunqacolor.

 On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 11:48:44 AM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote:

 No prob.

 Yes, mine is red/white/blue, with huge SCHWINN lettering on each
 seatstay, fork leg, and seat tube.  (MUSA Wald front basket, too.  Reviewed
 in an old Riv Reader)  I've since added a black B17 and Acorn large
 saddlebag (black).

 They resurrected that color scheme on the 91 Series 90 PDG MTB.  A
 tri-color harlequin wrap would look phenomenal.  On yours, I think a
 black/white harlequin would look awesome, and like a checkered flag.

 Captain America is a cool--and obnoxious--color scheme; I like it.
  However, it's badly scratched from sharp metal garage hooks.  And, I want
 to have rack eyelets brazed on.

 So I should either:
 A) touch up the paint to cover up the brazing and the scratches.  wish
 me luck on color matching
 B) have it fully stripped and repainted.  but what color?

 I've thought about sending it to Waterford for the brazing and painting.
  I think it would be cool to send it back to Richard Schwinn, since this
 bike was a special project from his Greenville plant.  Of course, that
 would probably cost 5-10 purchase prices. (Anyone know what a Waterford
 restoration costs?)

 If I got it painted at Waterford, I'd probably get it done in some
 Hunqapillar-esque colorway. The kidney bean/gray and orange/gray ones are
 gorgeous, but so are the current green ones.

 Besides, all my other bikes are red, white, blue, or a combination
 thereof (red Riv, red Cannondale, blue/white Giordana, blue Schwinn 3-spd).
  I need some color variety in the stable.

 Of course, I could also add that variety with a Hunq or Bombadil.  :D

 Tim


 On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, I took your comment as tongue in cheek.  The fact that WALD stuff
 is awesome, cheap and MUSA is worth celebrating and I'm glad you reminded
 me of that fact.

 I was mainly taking the opportunity to get out what I think is an
 amusing anecdote of the customer who doesn't want to spend $100 to fix a
 $20 bike.  I think it's an amusing story.  My intent was not to say Tim is
 just as bad as these cheapskates.  I know you probably spend more than you
 should.  Haha!  I was also just trying to encourage you to Bullmoosify your
 KOM because it would look great.

 Is your's red white and blue?  Maybe a Tri-Color Harlequin wrap would
 be in order!

 On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 11:11:30 AM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote:

 I suppose I was trying to be tongue-in-cheek, Bill.  I've spent more
 on my Riv than I paid for it (I did get a great deal), and I've already
 invested more than I paid on the Schwinn.  Tires, cables, and chain went
 above $70 right away.

 However, I do use the price and/or worth (not the same thing) as a
 guide for investment.  I'm willing to try $10 handlebars on a $70 bike, to
 see if I'll like it.  Now that I love the bike, I'm willing to spend more
 to upgrade it.  For my Riv, I tend to wait and buy the best instead of
 trying the cheapo.  The cheapo Wald bars on the Schwinn have been quite
 nice, though.  And MUSA!

 I agree about re-using quality accessories; my bags and racks are
 still deciding which bike to settle upon.

 I really enjoyed your build pics on your Windsor project, especially
 the detail painting!  My girlfriend is thinking about diy lug lining her
 San Marcos, and I showed her your gallery for ideas.

 I also appreciated the Windsor build-up because I had just finished a
 similar project myself.  I rebuilt my girlfriend's father's '84 Raleigh
 Marathon

Re: [RBW] About to do my first Bosco Bullmoose front end

Phil-

Reflective box pinstriping would be killer.


On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Philip Williamson 
philip.william...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've seen a retroreflective bike at the Oregon Manifest, and you're right,
 the daylight color isn't very attractive. Kind of a muddy fog color. BUT...
 orange reflective tape in a fat/thin 'cigar band' on a tube or two might
 spark it up. Top tube near the head tube, maybe?

 Philip
 www.biketinker.com


 On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 12:07:10 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 It looks so cool!  U-S-A!  U-S-A!

 Anyway, if I get braze ons on mine I'll probably just get it powder
 coated.  The top-secret ambition I have it to get a bike powdercoated with
 retroreflective powder.  So your whole bike is the reflector.  I already
 have a velocity wheelset that has reflective powder, but a whole frame
 would be really cool.  It's a boring gunmetal grey in the daylight, though.
  :(

 I'm with you on the orange/grey Hunqacolor.

 On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 11:48:44 AM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote:

 No prob.

 Yes, mine is red/white/blue, with huge SCHWINN lettering on each
 seatstay, fork leg, and seat tube.  (MUSA Wald front basket, too.  Reviewed
 in an old Riv Reader)  I've since added a black B17 and Acorn large
 saddlebag (black).

 They resurrected that color scheme on the 91 Series 90 PDG MTB.  A
 tri-color harlequin wrap would look phenomenal.  On yours, I think a
 black/white harlequin would look awesome, and like a checkered flag.

 Captain America is a cool--and obnoxious--color scheme; I like it.
  However, it's badly scratched from sharp metal garage hooks.  And, I want
 to have rack eyelets brazed on.

 So I should either:
 A) touch up the paint to cover up the brazing and the scratches.  wish
 me luck on color matching
 B) have it fully stripped and repainted.  but what color?

 I've thought about sending it to Waterford for the brazing and painting.
  I think it would be cool to send it back to Richard Schwinn, since this
 bike was a special project from his Greenville plant.  Of course, that
 would probably cost 5-10 purchase prices. (Anyone know what a Waterford
 restoration costs?)

 If I got it painted at Waterford, I'd probably get it done in some
 Hunqapillar-esque colorway. The kidney bean/gray and orange/gray ones are
 gorgeous, but so are the current green ones.

 Besides, all my other bikes are red, white, blue, or a combination
 thereof (red Riv, red Cannondale, blue/white Giordana, blue Schwinn 3-spd).
  I need some color variety in the stable.

 Of course, I could also add that variety with a Hunq or Bombadil.  :D

 Tim


 On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, I took your comment as tongue in cheek.  The fact that WALD stuff
 is awesome, cheap and MUSA is worth celebrating and I'm glad you reminded
 me of that fact.

 I was mainly taking the opportunity to get out what I think is an
 amusing anecdote of the customer who doesn't want to spend $100 to fix a
 $20 bike.  I think it's an amusing story.  My intent was not to say Tim is
 just as bad as these cheapskates.  I know you probably spend more than you
 should.  Haha!  I was also just trying to encourage you to Bullmoosify your
 KOM because it would look great.

 Is your's red white and blue?  Maybe a Tri-Color Harlequin wrap would
 be in order!

 On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 11:11:30 AM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote:

 I suppose I was trying to be tongue-in-cheek, Bill.  I've spent more
 on my Riv than I paid for it (I did get a great deal), and I've already
 invested more than I paid on the Schwinn.  Tires, cables, and chain went
 above $70 right away.

 However, I do use the price and/or worth (not the same thing) as a
 guide for investment.  I'm willing to try $10 handlebars on a $70 bike, to
 see if I'll like it.  Now that I love the bike, I'm willing to spend more
 to upgrade it.  For my Riv, I tend to wait and buy the best instead of
 trying the cheapo.  The cheapo Wald bars on the Schwinn have been quite
 nice, though.  And MUSA!

 I agree about re-using quality accessories; my bags and racks are
 still deciding which bike to settle upon.

 I really enjoyed your build pics on your Windsor project, especially
 the detail painting!  My girlfriend is thinking about diy lug lining her
 San Marcos, and I showed her your gallery for ideas.

 I also appreciated the Windsor build-up because I had just finished a
 similar project myself.  I rebuilt my girlfriend's father's '84 Raleigh
 Marathon for him this xmas.  As a 501 main triangle/hi-ten stay frame, 
 it's
 not particularly worthy.  But it's his, and he'd rather sink $600 into a
 quality steel frame (that is otherwise taking up space) than buy a new 
 bike
 for that money.  Last time, he spent $600 on a Specialized hybrid that he
 hasn't really enjoyed riding, and doesn't shift properly.  ($600 got him
 new brakes, wheels, chain, cassette, bar tape, tires, cables/housing,
 fenders, and used

[RBW] Re: How many mountain bikes do you own?

2014-02-20 Thread Chris in Redding, Ca.

Hey All,
First, I am happy to see that suspension gets the appreciation here that it 
deserves. For me it allows a bunch of good things, like really fun 
downhilling, and the ability to do 50+ mile MTB rides and still walk right.

And I have two, one full suspension and one full rigid. Both are 26rs. The 
rigid one is an 85 Stumpy Sport. My wife also has two, one full suspension 
and one full rigid. Both 26rs. Her rigid is an old Ritchey. 

All the best,
Chris
Redding, Ca.


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[RBW] Re: bike commute meals

2014-02-20 Thread David Spranger

Mason jar filled with fruit/yogurt/protein powder/whatever else looks good 
smoothy, thermos of coffee and granola bar is what I eat when I get to work 
after my 10 mile commute. Lunch is usually microwaved leftovers from 
previous dinner.

David
Charlotte, NC

On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 11:02:12 AM UTC-5, Dave wrote:

 Hey now,

 What's your go-to bike commute meal?  I've got it pretty easy in that I've 
 got a gym at work so I can shower when I finish up my 9 mile ride, but 
 could use some more ideas for my breakfast.  Generally I've been bringing a 
 piece of fruit and some pre-cooked steel-cut oats to reheat in a microwave. 
  Or some hardboiled eggs.  Let's not forget the coffee beans, hand-grinder, 
 and chemex at work.  Do you have a great meal that's easy to pack the night 
 before, transport without spilling, and satisfying enough after some 
 climbing?  My lunch depends on leftovers from the night before, or the 
 emergency stash of sardines and rice-crackers in my desk.  

 Would love to hear what you all do to make the morning motivation that 
 much easier!

 Thanks,
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[RBW] Re: bike commute meals

Nothing. Or butter (grass fed, unsalted).

With abandon,
Patrick

On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 9:02:12 AM UTC-7, Dave wrote:

 Hey now,

 What's your go-to bike commute meal?  I've got it pretty easy in that I've 
 got a gym at work so I can shower when I finish up my 9 mile ride, but 
 could use some more ideas for my breakfast.  Generally I've been bringing a 
 piece of fruit and some pre-cooked steel-cut oats to reheat in a microwave. 
  Or some hardboiled eggs.  Let's not forget the coffee beans, hand-grinder, 
 and chemex at work.  Do you have a great meal that's easy to pack the night 
 before, transport without spilling, and satisfying enough after some 
 climbing?  My lunch depends on leftovers from the night before, or the 
 emergency stash of sardines and rice-crackers in my desk.  

 Would love to hear what you all do to make the morning motivation that 
 much easier!

 Thanks,
 Dave




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Re: [RBW] Re: Sugino XD600 shifting issue - jamming when downshifting

2014-02-20 Thread Michael Hechmer

Seven speed and nine speed chains and spacing are identical; eight is 
wider.  I  commuted for quite a few years with 9 speed rings and chain and 
a seven speed freewheel.  Worked fine, even in friction mode, with the 
newer ultegra deraillers.

The history, as I remember it.  Seven speed freewheels came in the mid-late 
'80s as an upgrade from six speed and mounted on 126mm hubs.  Shimano and 
Campy both offered their first Indexing with the seven speed freewheel. 
 Unfortunately, the older deraillers required an over shift and finesse 
that made friction shifting challenging for many but the early index 
systems were also finicky.  Then came the 130 mm hub, 8 speed cassette, and 
wider spacing, which gave the industry some sizzle.  They could advertise 
the amazing 21 speed bike and reliable indexing to entice new riders into 
bike shops.  Indexing improved and they quickly introduced the 9 speed 
system which reproduced the 7 speed spacing with 130 mm cassettes and 
reliable rear shifting.  Lots of us found the indexed front on a triple a 
 PIA.  

I would expect that a 9 speed chain would work fine with an 8 speed 
cassette, since it is the spacing, not the metal thickness that varies. 
 But apparently that is less true with rings.  I'd been told that but 
didn't believe it till I tried it and observed that slight hesitation for 
myself.  There is certainly enough variation in the ring mfg. and over time 
enough wear that it may work in some setups but not in others.

Michael

On Thursday, February 20, 2014 8:33:50 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:

 On 02/20/2014 07:45 AM, Michael Hechmer wrote: 
  I have tried running a 9 speed chain on 8 speed rings and found it 
  problematic. 

 YMMV.  Every one of my bikes has 8 speed rings (most have XTR M900 
 cranks) and have experienced zero problems. 





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Re: [RBW] Re: Just what is oversized tubing?

2014-02-20 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery

I'm sure Boulder is fine, but it's just one option, and it may or may not be 
somebody's ideal frame for other reasons. I have encouraged people to look at 
the Boulder as an option when they want those features, even though I don't 
sell that brand.

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[RBW] Re: Way too good to keep to myself.

2014-02-20 Thread Kevin Mulcahy

I going to guess that at least one of the pics is outside of Marfa, TX at 
Donald Judd's concrete installation.

Like CJ mentioned, he has a sweet instragram feed called ultraromance: 
http://instagram.com/ultraromance




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Re: [RBW] FS: SON28/LX/Dyad wheelset, BM lights, Nitto Big Front Rack

2014-02-20 Thread Scot Brooks

Updates:
The lights are sold 'n paid
The wheels are now $10 off, or $440
The rack is now $5 off, or $135

Discounts will continue until the list is satisfied :)

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[RBW] Re: How many mountain bikes do you own?

2014-02-20 Thread Montclair BobbyB

Too many mountain bikes in my life to list... although MOST of them are of 
the mid-80s variety, configured as all-rounders...

But for my roots-n-rocks-bring-it-on mountain bike I actually have 2 
virtually identical bikes: Both Niner MCRs with steel forks... I feared 
Niner would discontinue these (which they did), so I keep 2 around (just in 
case)...

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-5mYosdSbAGg/UwZEfl5E-zI/Egc/JGFL3yuefGU/s1600/Niners.jpg


On Thursday, February 20, 2014 9:27:00 AM UTC-5, Chris in Redding, Ca. 
wrote:

 Hey All,
 First, I am happy to see that suspension gets the appreciation here that 
 it deserves. For me it allows a bunch of good things, like really fun 
 downhilling, and the ability to do 50+ mile MTB rides and still walk right.

 And I have two, one full suspension and one full rigid. Both are 26rs. The 
 rigid one is an 85 Stumpy Sport. My wife also has two, one full suspension 
 and one full rigid. Both 26rs. Her rigid is an old Ritchey. 

 All the best,
 Chris
 Redding, Ca.




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[RBW] Re: BLUG bike

2014-02-20 Thread BlueRambouillet

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-R4kJnxaSRbY/UwZFoQBmqXI/AKI/0xQGMgmNBiM/s1600/2014-02-15+13.05.12.jpg

Grant on new bike. :)

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-cTTD9GG62E4/UwZFz4UW2wI/AKQ/5Hwy1r8UNPM/s1600/2014-02-19+17.38.36.jpg

It has a basket, a bell that rings and things to make it look good.

(have to go back a ways to get this reference ;)

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-J98sJ_PhtME/UwZGTVK5yzI/AKY/zGAbqglKQEs/s1600/2014-02-19+17.25.39.jpg

My rework of the wiring... couldn't just let it go with wire showing and
ty-wraps. Riv did an excellent job! I don't think this is necessarily
better, but we like it. Used waxed hemp for the rack and found this awesome
red/white hemp twine in Healdsburg last weekend (which gave me the idea).

Enjoy the bike porn!! :-)

On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 3:29:54 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote:

After the ride, my girlfriend hit me for making her ride an inferior
bike for so long. ;))

Blue:

My wife had a similar reaction after riding her Atlantis for a while, then
hopping back onto her old bike. No good deed goes unpunished :-).

What a great end to the storyand the beginning of a whole new set of
adventures. Don't neglect to post photos!

dougP

On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 10:29:05 AM UTC-8, BlueRambouillet wrote:

The bike is even more beautiful than the pictures can do justice! We took
the train out to Riv, but had to get off and ride the last 25 miles.
Reports are that it rides like a dream, just wants to go. After the ride,
my girlfriend hit me for making her ride an inferior bike for so long.
;))

Special thanks to Grant for personally taking the time to add the
head-spacer bell I brought in!! The Riv bells are excellent, but she needed
something a different tone to mine, so purchased off site. Of course *I*
couldn't get out of there without spending money on my Ram, so hopefully it
all worked out.

I am really impressed with the lighting! The SON Delux with the EDeulx II
is a marvelous combination and the rear rack light is fantastic! I was
riding close to her back tire and thought it dim... but backing off a bit,
it's REALLY bright! Awesome combination!

I'll try to get some pictures up with her new basket, bell and a special
rework on the wiring I'm thinking on.

Cheers!

On Friday, February 14, 2014 8:00:35 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote:

She did all this just so people will stop commenting on my bike.
hehehehe

Prepare to be ignored. On this bike, she will most certainly be the
center of attention, even among people who are bike clueless.

I don't think the timing of the photo was accidental. The elves in
Walnut Creek can be quite clever.

dougP

On Thursday, February 13, 2014 2:32:50 PM UTC-8, BlueRambouillet wrote:

The bike is my girlfriend's. While I would love to say it's her
Valentine's present, she ordered it almost a year ago... just good timing.
;) The bike uses Glorious lugs, similar geometry to the Betty, but longer
chainstays. Color is a dark cherry with some flake in it to make it
sparkle. She did all this just so people will stop commenting on my bike.
hehehehe Now to find her equally impressive bags for it!

On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 5:18:07 PM UTC-8, Curtis wrote:

The head tube on the BLUG bicycle is amazing. Wow!

[RBW] Yet more travel coffee questions!

2014-02-20 Thread Liesl

As a member (I think) in good standing of the Association of Caffeinated 
Wheelmen (and, I'm assuming, Wheelwomen), I am wondering if any other 
members have the solution to traveling with milk/half-n-half/cream.  I am a 
coffee enthusiast (at home I grind with a Rancilio Rocky pull daily shots 
from a La Pavoni, so I am in WAY deep) and am still tinkering with the 
travel/camp/bike set-up.  Now that my work has been taking me to the middle 
of North Dakota, I've found it's prudent to carry the whole dang 
kit-and-kaboodle with me even as I stay in hotels.  I have an Aeropress, a 
Porlex mini mill, a Trangia, and various-sized Snow Peak mugs (double and 
single-walled; 350 to 700 sizes).  I now seek the perfect means to carry, 
heat and even froth (!) milk that could nest, or come close to nesting, 
with what I have (the aforementioned list).   If any group would have 
suggestions on this worthy challenge, it's this group! 

caffeinatingly yours,
RCW in the land where the sky is about to burst with a foot of snow and we 
cheer for our Winter Olympians

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[RBW] Re: FS: Phil Track Low-Flange Polished Silver / Mavic Open Pro Silver 32H w/ IRD CNC 16T Freewheel

2014-02-20 Thread Curtis Schmitt

Price drop: $400 + s/h.


On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Curtis Schmitt curtisrschm...@gmail.comwrote:

 Still available.


 On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Curtis Schmitt 
 curtisrschm...@gmail.comwrote:

 Wheelset only has about 250 miles on it. Looking for $500 + s/h. Want to
 buy a Schmidt dynohub wheelset, so these beauties gots to go.

 http://instagram.com/p/dSKxBzvgo5/

 Curtis





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Re: [RBW] Re: BLUG bike

2014-02-20 Thread Andrew Letton

Which one's Pink?

Beautiful bike, and I like the twine wire handling.
cheers,
Andrew_who goes back far enough...




 From: BlueRambouillet jpl1...@gmail.com
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 10:19 AM
Subject: [RBW] Re: BLUG bike
 


Grant on new bike. :)
It has a basket, a bell that rings and things to make it look good. 
(have to go back a ways to get this reference ;)
My rework of the wiring... couldn't just let it go with wire showing and 
ty-wraps. Riv did an excellent job! I don't think this is necessarily better, 
but we like it. Used waxed hemp for the rack and found this awesome red/white 
hemp twine in Healdsburg last weekend (which gave me the idea).
Enjoy the bike porn!! :-)



On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 3:29:54 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote:
After the ride, my girlfriend hit me for making her ride an inferior bike 
for so long. ;)) 

Blue:

My wife had a similar reaction after riding her Atlantis for a while, then 
hopping back onto her old bike.  No good deed goes unpunished :-).

What a great end to the storyand the beginning of a whole new set of 
adventures.  Don't neglect to post photos!  

dougP

On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 10:29:05 AM UTC-8, BlueRambouillet wrote:
The bike is even more beautiful than the pictures can do justice! We took the 
train out to Riv, but had to get off and ride the last 25 miles. Reports are 
that it rides like a dream, just wants to go. After the ride, my girlfriend 
hit me for making her ride an inferior bike for so long. ;)) 


Special thanks to Grant for personally taking the time to add the head-spacer 
bell I brought in!! The Riv bells are excellent, but she needed something a 
different tone to mine, so purchased off site. Of course *I* couldn't get out 
of there without spending money on my Ram, so hopefully it all worked out. 


I am really impressed with the lighting! The SON Delux with the EDeulx II is 
a marvelous combination and the rear rack light is fantastic! I was riding 
close to her back tire and thought it dim... but backing off a bit, it's 
REALLY bright! Awesome combination!


I'll try to get some pictures up with her new basket, bell and a special 
rework on the wiring I'm thinking on.


Cheers!


On Friday, February 14, 2014 8:00:35 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote:
She did all this just so people will stop commenting on my bike. hehehehe

Prepare to be ignored.  On this bike, she will most certainly be the center 
of attention, even among people who are bike clueless.  

I don't think the timing of the photo was accidental.  The elves in Walnut 
Creek can be quite clever.

dougP

On Thursday, February 13, 2014 2:32:50 PM UTC-8, BlueRambouillet wrote:
The bike is my girlfriend's. While I would love to say it's her Valentine's 
present, she ordered it almost a year ago... just good timing. ;) The bike 
uses Glorious lugs, similar geometry to the Betty, but longer chainstays. 
Color is a dark cherry with some flake in it to make it sparkle. She did all 
this just so people will stop commenting on my bike. hehehehe  Now to find 
her equally impressive bags for it!

On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 5:18:07 PM UTC-8, Curtis wrote:
The head tube on the BLUG bicycle is amazing. Wow! 
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[RBW] Re: Yet more travel coffee questions!

My first response is that quality meat and dairy that is as fresh as 
possible will last far longer and at warmer temperatures than many would 
have you believe. Raw steaks lasted us for 10 days un-refridgerated and 
un-iced in the hot (100˚+ F) Utah Canyonlands on fire evacuation. Our sour 
cream got too sour for everyone but me and my sour disposition after a 
week. So, if I was to take cream (100% grass fed) rather than butter or 
ghee (gee lasting indefinitely and butter much longer) I would imagine it 
lasting 3-4 days.

But you gotta have the context that for the 2 week winter camping trip I'm 
doing, I'm taking only pemmican (1 pound a day), so my only cooking need is 
melting snow, though I'll have a coffee press/mug for black coffee should I 
want. It really is stunning how warm you get on a -30˚F pre-dawn unheated 
breakfast eating pemmican. Fat just instantly stokes the furnaces. Chunks 
of butter do the same, by the way.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, February 20, 2014 11:24:15 AM UTC-7, Liesl wrote:

 As a member (I think) in good standing of the Association of Caffeinated 
 Wheelmen (and, I'm assuming, Wheelwomen), I am wondering if any other 
 members have the solution to traveling with milk/half-n-half/cream.  I am a 
 coffee enthusiast (at home I grind with a Rancilio Rocky pull daily shots 
 from a La Pavoni, so I am in WAY deep) and am still tinkering with the 
 travel/camp/bike set-up.  Now that my work has been taking me to the middle 
 of North Dakota, I've found it's prudent to carry the whole dang 
 kit-and-kaboodle with me even as I stay in hotels.  I have an Aeropress, a 
 Porlex mini mill, a Trangia, and various-sized Snow Peak mugs (double and 
 single-walled; 350 to 700 sizes).  I now seek the perfect means to carry, 
 heat and even froth (!) milk that could nest, or come close to nesting, 
 with what I have (the aforementioned list).   If any group would have 
 suggestions on this worthy challenge, it's this group! 

 caffeinatingly yours,
 RCW in the land where the sky is about to burst with a foot of snow and we 
 cheer for our Winter Olympians


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Re: [RBW] Yet more travel coffee questions!

2014-02-20 Thread Andrew Letton

On an S24O last year with Anne Paulson, I learned from her of using sweetened 
condensed milk that comes in plastic bottles with reclosable lids (rather than 
the tin can style).  Anne said that even without refrigeration, it usually 
lasts her many days without spoilage.
Anne?  Wanna' chime in with any further details/considerations/brand names?
cheers,
Andrew





 From: Liesl li...@smm.org
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 10:24 AM
Subject: [RBW] Yet more travel coffee questions!
 


As a member (I think) in good standing of the Association of Caffeinated 
Wheelmen (and, I'm assuming, Wheelwomen), I am wondering if any other members 
have the solution to traveling with milk/half-n-half/cream.  I am a coffee 
enthusiast (at home I grind with a Rancilio Rocky pull daily shots from a La 
Pavoni, so I am in WAY deep) and am still tinkering with the travel/camp/bike 
set-up.  Now that my work has been taking me to the middle of North Dakota, 
I've found it's prudent to carry the whole dang kit-and-kaboodle with me even 
as I stay in hotels.  I have an Aeropress, a Porlex mini mill, a Trangia, and 
various-sized Snow Peak mugs (double and single-walled; 350 to 700 sizes).  I 
now seek the perfect means to carry, heat and even froth (!) milk that could 
nest, or come close to nesting, with what I have (the aforementioned list).   
If any group would have suggestions on this worthy challenge, it's this group! 

caffeinatingly yours,
RCW in the land where the sky is about to burst with a foot of snow and we 
cheer for our Winter Olympians

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[RBW] Re: About to do my first Bosco Bullmoose front end

2014-02-20 Thread Montclair BobbyB

Bill: I'd expect some way-cool DIY grips or custom tape job... no?   I've 
got a new set of Bosco Moosebars for my TyrannosaurusREK 970 rebuild.  I 
want to keep the bars mostly exposed (they look so killer), so I plan to 
start with basic foam grips (or pipe-wrap), then tape, twine and shellac 
over them.  Have done this in the past, and it creates really comfy, 
classic-looking grips.  Send pics when done.  Tom G, yours looks awesome!!

Peace,
Bobby

On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 5:39:13 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 I acquired a 1986 Schwinn Paramountain (Ned Overend signature edition) on 
 the second-hand market.  I'm setting it up with a Bosco Bullmoose.  It's 
 got front and rear suntour rollercam brakes.  

 The Bosco Bullmoose bars arrived this morning.  I felt a little bad 
 because there is really no good way to origami a small box for Bosco 
 Bullmooses.  They are huge.  I bought a few more small things to help fill 
 up the space, but it was still mostly crumpled paper in there.  

 I might run a set of griprings: 
 http://www.spurcycle.com/builder/demo_builder.html


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[RBW] Re: Retrofitting Riv custom for rails to trails riding

2014-02-20 Thread Jim

If you are doing just rail trails then I would say go wide tires on the
custom. However, if you are talking trails, with baby heads and big
roots, I would not abuse that beautiful custom. Get an older mtb with
really fat tires. Jim D Massachusetts

On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 4:54:54 PM UTC-5, Lesli Larson wrote:

A few weeks ago I wrote in seeking info on ideas for a classic, riv style
MTB bikes for trail riding. I still have my eye on a Bomdadil but now I'm
eyeballing my Riv custom rando bike as a possible makeshift trail rig. I
use a different bike now for brevets so the Riv is currently set up as more
of a commuter with porteur bars, inverse levers, Pauls centerpulls, and
basic 650x1 tires.

If I remove the fenders I'm wondering what more I would need to do to
retrofit the bike for rails to trails riding - typically rough pavement and
some hard packed dirt?

I'll be on a three day tour and might require a few more hand positions.
I anticipate riding on roads for a fair portion of the ride.

I already have pretty low, 1x1 gearing from rando riding. Shifting is via
downtube shifters and a vintage, long cage Campy derailleur.

Wondering what I might want to do about tires (go wider?) and the bars (go
back to drops or midge bars)?

Front wheel has a generator hub but that seems like a good thing for trail
riding.

As much as I love to buy new bicycles, I'm trying to shop from myself
more for project bikes or seasonal adventuring.

The question here is whether I'm forcing the Riv into a bike it is not
instead of sourcing a low budget MTB via craigslist for this kind of
specific use case.

Here's what the bike looks like in its rando state:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/61672163@N00/3588549190/in/photolist-6t7fDL-awbwTw-6178Wa-3ohQqg-zAM2h-6XcaCG-6cP5CM-6rgUtY-53fvrM-51J8Pp-35XvEa-4Pn81k-4Rh75s-4SW9xS-9WosMi-5pRHuP-4Y5aoJ-6gq2Gi-4Pn9tk-4Y5aqw

[RBW] Re: bike commute meals

2014-02-20 Thread Jon Doyle

Trail mix, consisting of nuts and dried fruit. Maybe some greek yogurt in 
the mix.

Jon
Watertown, MA

On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 11:02:12 AM UTC-5, Dave wrote:

 Hey now,

 What's your go-to bike commute meal?  I've got it pretty easy in that I've 
 got a gym at work so I can shower when I finish up my 9 mile ride, but 
 could use some more ideas for my breakfast.  Generally I've been bringing a 
 piece of fruit and some pre-cooked steel-cut oats to reheat in a microwave. 
  Or some hardboiled eggs.  Let's not forget the coffee beans, hand-grinder, 
 and chemex at work.  Do you have a great meal that's easy to pack the night 
 before, transport without spilling, and satisfying enough after some 
 climbing?  My lunch depends on leftovers from the night before, or the 
 emergency stash of sardines and rice-crackers in my desk.  

 Would love to hear what you all do to make the morning motivation that 
 much easier!

 Thanks,
 Dave




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[RBW] Re: About to do my first Bosco Bullmoose front end

2014-02-20 Thread Bill Lindsay

I plan to start with basic foam grips (or pipe-wrap), then tape, twine and 
shellac over them.

The 7-layer-dip of grips!

On Thursday, February 20, 2014 10:40:06 AM UTC-8, Montclair BobbyB wrote:

 Bill: I'd expect some way-cool DIY grips or custom tape job... no?   I've 
 got a new set of Bosco Moosebars for my TyrannosaurusREK 970 rebuild.  I 
 want to keep the bars mostly exposed (they look so killer), so I plan to 
 start with basic foam grips (or pipe-wrap), then tape, twine and shellac 
 over them.  Have done this in the past, and it creates really comfy, 
 classic-looking grips.  Send pics when done.  Tom G, yours looks awesome!!

 Peace,
 Bobby

 On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 5:39:13 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 I acquired a 1986 Schwinn Paramountain (Ned Overend signature edition) on 
 the second-hand market.  I'm setting it up with a Bosco Bullmoose.  It's 
 got front and rear suntour rollercam brakes.  

 The Bosco Bullmoose bars arrived this morning.  I felt a little bad 
 because there is really no good way to origami a small box for Bosco 
 Bullmooses.  They are huge.  I bought a few more small things to help fill 
 up the space, but it was still mostly crumpled paper in there.  

 I might run a set of griprings: 
 http://www.spurcycle.com/builder/demo_builder.html



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Re: [RBW] Re: About to do my first Bosco Bullmoose front end

For my gf's dad's Raleigh rebuild, I did innertube, then Deda leather
tape, then twine.  No shellac yet, but I told him to at least shellac or
wax the twine.


On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 I plan to start with basic foam grips (or pipe-wrap), then tape, twine
 and shellac over them.

 The 7-layer-dip of grips!


 On Thursday, February 20, 2014 10:40:06 AM UTC-8, Montclair BobbyB wrote:

 Bill: I'd expect some way-cool DIY grips or custom tape job... no?   I've
 got a new set of Bosco Moosebars for my TyrannosaurusREK 970 rebuild.  I
 want to keep the bars mostly exposed (they look so killer), so I plan to
 start with basic foam grips (or pipe-wrap), then tape, twine and shellac
 over them.  Have done this in the past, and it creates really comfy,
 classic-looking grips.  Send pics when done.  Tom G, yours looks awesome!!

 Peace,
 Bobby

 On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 5:39:13 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 I acquired a 1986 Schwinn Paramountain (Ned Overend signature edition)
 on the second-hand market.  I'm setting it up with a Bosco Bullmoose.  It's
 got front and rear suntour rollercam brakes.

 The Bosco Bullmoose bars arrived this morning.  I felt a little bad
 because there is really no good way to origami a small box for Bosco
 Bullmooses.  They are huge.  I bought a few more small things to help fill
 up the space, but it was still mostly crumpled paper in there.

 I might run a set of griprings: http://www.spurcycle.com/builder/demo_
 builder.html

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Re: [RBW] Re: BLUG bike

I'd give it to you if I could.

But I borrowed it.

Is that a House of Talents basket? I got one for my gf's bike, and it's
lovely.

On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Andrew Letton let...@flash.net wrote:

Which one's Pink?
Beautiful bike, and I like the twine wire handling.
cheers,
Andrew_who goes back far enough...

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*Subject:* [RBW] Re: BLUG bike

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-R4kJnxaSRbY/UwZFoQBmqXI/AKI/0xQGMgmNBiM/s1600/2014-02-15+13.05.12.jpg
Grant on new bike. :)

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-J98sJ_PhtME/UwZGTVK5yzI/AKY/zGAbqglKQEs/s1600/2014-02-19+17.25.39.jpg
My rework of the wiring... couldn't just let it go with wire showing and
ty-wraps. Riv did an excellent job! I don't think this is necessarily
better, but we like it. Used waxed hemp for the rack and found this awesome
red/white hemp twine in Healdsburg last weekend (which gave me the idea).
Enjoy the bike porn!! :-)

On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 3:29:54 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote:

After the ride, my girlfriend hit me for making her ride an inferior
bike for so long. ;))

Blue:

My wife had a similar reaction after riding her Atlantis for a while, then
hopping back onto her old bike. No good deed goes unpunished :-).

What a great end to the storyand the beginning of a whole new set of
adventures. Don't neglect to post photos!

dougP

On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 10:29:05 AM UTC-8, BlueRambouillet wrote:

I'll try to get some pictures up with her new basket, bell and a special
rework on the wiring I'm thinking on.

Cheers!

On Friday, February 14, 2014 8:00:35 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote:

She did all this just so people will stop commenting on my bike. hehehehe

Prepare to be ignored. On this bike, she will most certainly be the
center of attention, even among people who are bike clueless.

I don't think the timing of the photo was accidental. The elves in Walnut
Creek can be quite clever.

dougP

On Thursday, February 13, 2014 2:32:50 PM UTC-8, BlueRambouillet wrote:

On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 5:18:07 PM UTC-8, Curtis wrote:

The head tube on the BLUG bicycle is amazing. Wow!

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Re: [RBW] Re: BLUG bike

2014-02-20 Thread Leah Peterson

Wow, just wow. I suppose it would just be greedy to ask for even more photos?

Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 20, 2014, at 12:04 PM, Tim Gavin tim.ga...@littlevillagemag.com 
 wrote:
 
 I'd give it to you if I could.
 
 But I borrowed it.
 
 :)
 
 Is that a House of Talents basket?  I got one for my gf's bike, and it's 
 lovely.
 
 
 On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Andrew Letton let...@flash.net wrote:
 Which one's Pink?
 Beautiful bike, and I like the twine wire handling.
 cheers,
 Andrew_who goes back far enough...
 
 From: BlueRambouillet jpl1...@gmail.com
 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 10:19 AM
 Subject: [RBW] Re: BLUG bike
 
 
 Grant on new bike. :)
 
 It has a basket, a bell that rings and things to make it look good. 
 (have to go back a ways to get this reference ;)
 
 My rework of the wiring... couldn't just let it go with wire showing and 
 ty-wraps. Riv did an excellent job! I don't think this is necessarily 
 better, but we like it. Used waxed hemp for the rack and found this awesome 
 red/white hemp twine in Healdsburg last weekend (which gave me the idea).
 Enjoy the bike porn!! :-)
 
 
 
 
 On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 3:29:54 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote:
 After the ride, my girlfriend hit me for making her ride an inferior bike 
 for so long. ;)) 
 
 Blue:
 
 My wife had a similar reaction after riding her Atlantis for a while, then 
 hopping back onto her old bike.  No good deed goes unpunished :-).
 
 What a great end to the storyand the beginning of a whole new set of 
 adventures.  Don't neglect to post photos!  
 
 dougP
 
 On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 10:29:05 AM UTC-8, BlueRambouillet wrote:
 The bike is even more beautiful than the pictures can do justice! We took 
 the train out to Riv, but had to get off and ride the last 25 miles. Reports 
 are that it rides like a dream, just wants to go. After the ride, my 
 girlfriend hit me for making her ride an inferior bike for so long. ;)) 
 
 Special thanks to Grant for personally taking the time to add the 
 head-spacer bell I brought in!! The Riv bells are excellent, but she needed 
 something a different tone to mine, so purchased off site. Of course *I* 
 couldn't get out of there without spending money on my Ram, so hopefully it 
 all worked out. 
 
 I am really impressed with the lighting! The SON Delux with the EDeulx II is 
 a marvelous combination and the rear rack light is fantastic! I was riding 
 close to her back tire and thought it dim... but backing off a bit, it's 
 REALLY bright! Awesome combination!
 
 I'll try to get some pictures up with her new basket, bell and a special 
 rework on the wiring I'm thinking on.
 
 Cheers!
 
 
 On Friday, February 14, 2014 8:00:35 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote:
 She did all this just so people will stop commenting on my bike. hehehehe
 
 Prepare to be ignored.  On this bike, she will most certainly be the center 
 of attention, even among people who are bike clueless.  
 
 I don't think the timing of the photo was accidental.  The elves in Walnut 
 Creek can be quite clever.
 
 dougP
 
 On Thursday, February 13, 2014 2:32:50 PM UTC-8, BlueRambouillet wrote:
 The bike is my girlfriend's. While I would love to say it's her Valentine's 
 present, she ordered it almost a year ago... just good timing. ;) The bike 
 uses Glorious lugs, similar geometry to the Betty, but longer chainstays. 
 Color is a dark cherry with some flake in it to make it sparkle. She did all 
 this just so people will stop commenting on my bike. hehehehe  Now to find 
 her equally impressive bags for it!
 
 On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 5:18:07 PM UTC-8, Curtis wrote:
 The head tube on the BLUG bicycle is amazing. Wow!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Sugino XD600 shifting issue - jamming when downshifting


On 02/20/2014 10:08 AM, Michael Hechmer wrote:
Seven speed and nine speed chains and spacing are identical; eight is 
wider.


That's not what Sheldon says. http://sheldonbrown.com/cribsheet-spacing.html
Shimano 7 is 5.0mm; 8 is 4.8mm; 9 speed is 4.34 mm.  Sprocket thickness 
also goes down, from 1.85mm in the 7 speed to 1.8mm for 8 speed and 
1.78mm for Shimano 9.  Here's a copy of the chart:



   Cassette http://sheldonbrown.com/k7.html /Freewheel
   http://sheldonbrown.com/freewheels.html Spacing

Brand and model Center-to-center
Spacing Sprocket Thickness  Spacer ThicknessTotal Width
*5-speed*
Regular
5-speed 5.5 mm  2.0 mm  3.5 mm  24.0 mm
G. Caimi/Everest/Simplex
5-speed 5.35 mm 1.85 mm 3.5 mm  23.2 mm
*6-speed*
Regular
6-speed 5.5 mm  2.0 mm  3.5 mm  29.5 mm
G. Caimi/Everest/Simplex
6-speed 5.35 mm 1.85 mm 3.5 mm  28.6 mm
Sun Tour Ultra
Freewheel 6-speed   5.0 mm  1.85 mm 3.15 mm 26.9 mm
Sun Tour Accushift
XCD-6 6-speed http://www.yellowjersey.org/STCASS.JPG 	5.5 mm 	2.0 mm 
3.5 mm 	29.5 mm

*7-speed*
Shimano HG
7-speed 5.0 mm  1.85 mm 3.15 mm 31.9 mm
Shimano IG
7-speed 5.0 mm  2.35 mm 2.65 mm 32.4 mm
Sachs
7-speed 5.0 mm  1.8 mm  3.2 mm  31.8 mm
SRAM Freewheel
7-speed 5.0 mm  1.8 mm  3.2 mm  32.8 mm
Sun Tour Ultra
Freewheel 7-speed   5.0 mm  1.85 mm 3.15 mm 32.4 mm
Sun Tour
MicroDrive 7-speed http://www.yellowjersey.org/STCASS.JPG 	4.8/5.0 
mm 	2.0 mm 	3 x 2.8 mm(L)

3 x 3.0 mm(H)   31.5 mm
*8-speed*
Campagnolo
8-speed 5.0 mm  1.9 mm  3.1 mm  36.9 mm
Mavic
8-spd w/rounded dogs5.2 mm  2.0 mm  3.2 mm  37.0 mm
Shimano
8-speed 4.8 mm  1.8 mm  3.0 mm  35.4 mm
Sachs
1997 8-speed5.0 mm  1.8 mm  3.2 mm  36.8 mm
Sachs 1998+
8-speed 4.8 mm  1.8 mm  3.0 mm  35.4 mm
SRAM Cassette
8-speed 4.8 mm  1.8 mm  3.0 mm  35.4 mm
SRAM Freewheel
8-speed 5.0 mm  1.8 mm  3.2 mm  36.8 mm
Sun Tour
MicroDrive 8-speed http://www.yellowjersey.org/STCASS.JPG 	4.8/5.0 
mm 	2.0 mm 	3 x 2.8 mm(L)

4 x 3.0 mm(H)   36.5 mm
*9-speed *
Campagnolo
9-speed 4.55 mm 1.75 mm 2.8 mm  38.2 mm
Shimano
9-speed 4.34 mm 1.78 mm 2.56 mm 36.5 mm
SRAM
9-speed 4.34 mm 1.8 mm  2.54 mm 36.5 mm






















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[RBW] Re: Yet more travel coffee questions!

2014-02-20 Thread Chris Lampe 2

Would you be willing to share your pemmican recipe?  I've been fascinated 
by this since first read about it in Soldier of Fortune magazine (don't 
ask...grin) back in about 1982.  
 

On Thursday, February 20, 2014 12:35:27 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 My first response is that quality meat and dairy that is as fresh as 
 possible will last far longer and at warmer temperatures than many would 
 have you believe. Raw steaks lasted us for 10 days un-refridgerated and 
 un-iced in the hot (100˚+ F) Utah Canyonlands on fire evacuation. Our sour 
 cream got too sour for everyone but me and my sour disposition after a 
 week. So, if I was to take cream (100% grass fed) rather than butter or 
 ghee (gee lasting indefinitely and butter much longer) I would imagine it 
 lasting 3-4 days.

 But you gotta have the context that for the 2 week winter camping trip I'm 
 doing, I'm taking only pemmican (1 pound a day), so my only cooking need is 
 melting snow, though I'll have a coffee press/mug for black coffee should I 
 want. It really is stunning how warm you get on a -30˚F pre-dawn unheated 
 breakfast eating pemmican. Fat just instantly stokes the furnaces. Chunks 
 of butter do the same, by the way.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Thursday, February 20, 2014 11:24:15 AM UTC-7, Liesl wrote:

 As a member (I think) in good standing of the Association of Caffeinated 
 Wheelmen (and, I'm assuming, Wheelwomen), I am wondering if any other 
 members have the solution to traveling with milk/half-n-half/cream.  I am a 
 coffee enthusiast (at home I grind with a Rancilio Rocky pull daily shots 
 from a La Pavoni, so I am in WAY deep) and am still tinkering with the 
 travel/camp/bike set-up.  Now that my work has been taking me to the middle 
 of North Dakota, I've found it's prudent to carry the whole dang 
 kit-and-kaboodle with me even as I stay in hotels.  I have an Aeropress, a 
 Porlex mini mill, a Trangia, and various-sized Snow Peak mugs (double and 
 single-walled; 350 to 700 sizes).  I now seek the perfect means to carry, 
 heat and even froth (!) milk that could nest, or come close to nesting, 
 with what I have (the aforementioned list).   If any group would have 
 suggestions on this worthy challenge, it's this group! 

 caffeinatingly yours,
 RCW in the land where the sky is about to burst with a foot of snow and 
 we cheer for our Winter Olympians



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Re: [RBW] Re: BLUG bike

2014-02-20 Thread BlueRambouillet

Happy to... anything in particular you'd like to see?

Basket is a Linus. Was the biggest we could find that wouldn't interfere
with the light. It's lovely and light weight too. :)

On Thursday, February 20, 2014 12:14:55 PM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote:

Wow, just wow. I suppose it would just be greedy to ask for even more
photos?

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 20, 2014, at 12:04 PM, Tim Gavin
tim@littlevillagemag.comjavascript:
wrote:

I'd give it to you if I could.

But I borrowed it.

Is that a House of Talents basket? I got one for my gf's bike, and it's
lovely.

On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Andrew Letton let...@flash.netjavascript:
wrote:

Which one's Pink?
Beautiful bike, and I like the twine wire handling.
cheers,
Andrew_who goes back far enough...

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*Sent:* Thursday, February 20, 2014 10:19 AM
*Subject:* [RBW] Re: BLUG bike

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-R4kJnxaSRbY/UwZFoQBmqXI/AKI/0xQGMgmNBiM/s1600/2014-02-15+13.05.12.jpg
Grant on new bike. :)

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-cTTD9GG62E4/UwZFz4UW2wI/AKQ/5Hwy1r8UNPM/s1600/2014-02-19+17.38.36.jpg
It has a basket, a bell that rings and things to make it look good.
(have to go back a ways to get this reference ;)
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-J98sJ_PhtME/UwZGTVK5yzI/AKY/zGAbqglKQEs/s1600/2014-02-19+17.25.39.jpg
My rework of the wiring... couldn't just let it go with wire showing and
ty-wraps. Riv did an excellent job! I don't think this is necessarily
better, but we like it. Used waxed hemp for the rack and found this awesome
red/white hemp twine in Healdsburg last weekend (which gave me the idea).
Enjoy the bike porn!! :-)

On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 3:29:54 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote:

After the ride, my girlfriend hit me for making her ride an inferior
bike for so long. ;))

Blue:

My wife had a similar reaction after riding her Atlantis for a while,
then hopping back onto her old bike. No good deed goes unpunished :-).

What a great end to the storyand the beginning of a whole new set of
adventures. Don't neglect to post photos!

dougP

On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 10:29:05 AM UTC-8, BlueRambouillet wrote:

I'll try to get some pictures up with her new basket, bell and a special
rework on the wiring I'm thinking on.

Cheers!

On Friday, February 14, 2014 8:00:35 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote:

She did all this just so people will stop commenting on my bike.
hehehehe

Prepare to be ignored. On this bike, she will most certainly be the
center of attention, even among people who are bike clueless.

I don't think the timing of the photo was accidental. The elves in
Walnut Creek can be quite clever.

dougP

On Thursday, February 13, 2014 2:32:50 PM UTC-8, BlueRambouillet wrote:

On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 5:18:07 PM UTC-8, Curtis wrote:

The head tube on the BLUG bicycle is amazing. Wow!

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[RBW] Re: Yet more travel coffee questions!

2014-02-20 Thread Jim

Don't know if this fits your thinking, but in the exceedingly non-coffee 
drinking office I work in, I keep single serving/pull off the top 
containers of half-and-half around, the kind you see in your better 
diners.  They keep for a couple months.

Jim in Boulder

On Thursday, February 20, 2014 11:24:15 AM UTC-7, Liesl wrote:

 As a member (I think) in good standing of the Association of Caffeinated 
 Wheelmen (and, I'm assuming, Wheelwomen), I am wondering if any other 
 members have the solution to traveling with milk/half-n-half/cream.  I am a 
 coffee enthusiast (at home I grind with a Rancilio Rocky pull daily shots 
 from a La Pavoni, so I am in WAY deep) and am still tinkering with the 
 travel/camp/bike set-up.  Now that my work has been taking me to the middle 
 of North Dakota, I've found it's prudent to carry the whole dang 
 kit-and-kaboodle with me even as I stay in hotels.  I have an Aeropress, a 
 Porlex mini mill, a Trangia, and various-sized Snow Peak mugs (double and 
 single-walled; 350 to 700 sizes).  I now seek the perfect means to carry, 
 heat and even froth (!) milk that could nest, or come close to nesting, 
 with what I have (the aforementioned list).   If any group would have 
 suggestions on this worthy challenge, it's this group! 

 caffeinatingly yours,
 RCW in the land where the sky is about to burst with a foot of snow and we 
 cheer for our Winter Olympians


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[RBW] Re: Yet more travel coffee questions!

Short version: 100% grass fed:  half tallow, half crisp dried (at 
100-115˚F) unfatty jerky ground or pounded as close to dust as possible.
Long version: http://www.traditionaltx.us/images/PEMMICAN.pdf

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Re: BLUG bike

2014-02-20 Thread Leah Peterson

Pictures of it in sunlight! I'm dying to see how the paint looks in sun; I'm 
considering that color in the future.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 20, 2014, at 12:44 PM, BlueRambouillet jpl1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Happy to... anything in particular you'd like to see?
 
 Basket is a Linus. Was the biggest we could find that wouldn't interfere with 
 the light. It's lovely and light weight too. :)
 
 On Thursday, February 20, 2014 12:14:55 PM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote:
 Wow, just wow. I suppose it would just be greedy to ask for even more photos?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Feb 20, 2014, at 12:04 PM, Tim Gavin tim@littlevillagemag.com 
 wrote:
 
 I'd give it to you if I could.
 
 But I borrowed it.
 
 :)
 
 Is that a House of Talents basket?  I got one for my gf's bike, and it's 
 lovely.
 
 
 On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Andrew Letton let...@flash.net wrote:
 Which one's Pink?
 Beautiful bike, and I like the twine wire handling.
 cheers,
 Andrew_who goes back far enough...
 
 From: BlueRambouillet jpl...@gmail.com
 To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 10:19 AM
 Subject: [RBW] Re: BLUG bike
 
 
 Grant on new bike. :)
 
 It has a basket, a bell that rings and things to make it look good. 
 (have to go back a ways to get this reference ;)
 
 My rework of the wiring... couldn't just let it go with wire showing and 
 ty-wraps. Riv did an excellent job! I don't think this is necessarily 
 better, but we like it. Used waxed hemp for the rack and found this 
 awesome red/white hemp twine in Healdsburg last weekend (which gave me the 
 idea).
 Enjoy the bike porn!! :-)
 
 
 
 
 On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 3:29:54 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote:
 After the ride, my girlfriend hit me for making her ride an inferior 
 bike for so long. ;)) 
 
 Blue:
 
 My wife had a similar reaction after riding her Atlantis for a while, then 
 hopping back onto her old bike.  No good deed goes unpunished :-).
 
 What a great end to the storyand the beginning of a whole new set of 
 adventures.  Don't neglect to post photos!  
 
 dougP
 
 On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 10:29:05 AM UTC-8, BlueRambouillet wrote:
 The bike is even more beautiful than the pictures can do justice! We took 
 the train out to Riv, but had to get off and ride the last 25 miles. 
 Reports are that it rides like a dream, just wants to go. After the ride, 
 my girlfriend hit me for making her ride an inferior bike for so long. 
 ;)) 
 
 Special thanks to Grant for personally taking the time to add the 
 head-spacer bell I brought in!! The Riv bells are excellent, but she 
 needed something a different tone to mine, so purchased off site. Of 
 course *I* couldn't get out of there without spending money on my Ram, so 
 hopefully it all worked out. 
 
 I am really impressed with the lighting! The SON Delux with the EDeulx II 
 is a marvelous combination and the rear rack light is fantastic! I was 
 riding close to her back tire and thought it dim... but backing off a bit, 
 it's REALLY bright! Awesome combination!
 
 I'll try to get some pictures up with her new basket, bell and a special 
 rework on the wiring I'm thinking on.
 
 Cheers!
 
 
 On Friday, February 14, 2014 8:00:35 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote:
 She did all this just so people will stop commenting on my bike. hehehehe
 
 Prepare to be ignored.  On this bike, she will most certainly be the 
 center of attention, even among people who are bike clueless.  
 
 I don't think the timing of the photo was accidental.  The elves in Walnut 
 Creek can be quite clever.
 
 dougP
 
 On Thursday, February 13, 2014 2:32:50 PM UTC-8, BlueRambouillet wrote:
 The bike is my girlfriend's. While I would love to say it's her 
 Valentine's present, she ordered it almost a year ago... just good timing. 
 ;) The bike uses Glorious lugs, similar geometry to the Betty, but longer 
 chainstays. Color is a dark cherry with some flake in it to make it 
 sparkle. She did all this just so people will stop commenting on my bike. 
 hehehehe  Now to find her equally impressive bags for it!
 
 On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 5:18:07 PM UTC-8, Curtis wrote:
 The head tube on the BLUG bicycle is amazing. Wow!
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Re: [RBW] Re: BLUG bike

2014-02-20 Thread Christopher Chen

I am suddenly highly motivated to finish my dynamo light twining... :)

On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Leah Peterson jonasandle...@gmail.comwrote:

Pictures of it in sunlight! I'm dying to see how the paint looks in sun;
I'm considering that color in the future.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 20, 2014, at 12:44 PM, BlueRambouillet jpl1...@gmail.com wrote:

Happy to... anything in particular you'd like to see?

Basket is a Linus. Was the biggest we could find that wouldn't interfere
with the light. It's lovely and light weight too. :)

On Thursday, February 20, 2014 12:14:55 PM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote:

Wow, just wow. I suppose it would just be greedy to ask for even more
photos?

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 20, 2014, at 12:04 PM, Tim Gavin tim@littlevillagemag.com
wrote:

I'd give it to you if I could.

But I borrowed it.

Is that a House of Talents basket? I got one for my gf's bike, and it's
lovely.

On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Andrew Letton let...@flash.net wrote:

Which one's Pink?
Beautiful bike, and I like the twine wire handling.
cheers,
Andrew_who goes back far enough...

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*Sent:* Thursday, February 20, 2014 10:19 AM
*Subject:* [RBW] Re: BLUG bike

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-R4kJnxaSRbY/UwZFoQBmqXI/AKI/0xQGMgmNBiM/s1600/2014-02-15+13.05.12.jpg
Grant on new bike. :)

On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 3:29:54 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote:

After the ride, my girlfriend hit me for making her ride an inferior
bike for so long. ;))

Blue:

My wife had a similar reaction after riding her Atlantis for a while,
then hopping back onto her old bike. No good deed goes unpunished :-).

What a great end to the storyand the beginning of a whole new set of
adventures. Don't neglect to post photos!

dougP

On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 10:29:05 AM UTC-8, BlueRambouillet wrote:

The bike is even more beautiful than the pictures can do justice! We
took the train out to Riv, but had to get off and ride the last 25 miles.
Reports are that it rides like a dream, just wants to go. After the ride,
my girlfriend hit me for making her ride an inferior bike for so long.
;))

I am really impressed with the lighting! The SON Delux with the EDeulx
II is a marvelous combination and the rear rack light is fantastic! I was
riding close to her back tire and thought it dim... but backing off a bit,
it's REALLY bright! Awesome combination!

I'll try to get some pictures up with her new basket, bell and a special
rework on the wiring I'm thinking on.

Cheers!

On Friday, February 14, 2014 8:00:35 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote:

She did all this just so people will stop commenting on my bike.
hehehehe

Prepare to be ignored. On this bike, she will most certainly be the
center of attention, even among people who are bike clueless.

I don't think the timing of the photo was accidental. The elves in
Walnut Creek can be quite clever.

dougP

On Thursday, February 13, 2014 2:32:50 PM UTC-8, BlueRambouillet wrote:

On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 5:18:07 PM UTC-8, Curtis wrote:

The head tube on the BLUG bicycle is amazing. Wow!

[RBW] Best-of-the-Posts Snippets?

2014-02-20 Thread Liesl

 

Our threads just sparkle and snap with erudite alacrity.  Here are a few of 
my most favorite recent memorable comments...what are yours?


Would you be willing to share your pemmican recipe?

 

This frame has chirality

 

It's DYED in the wool. That is, rather than cloth that is made and then 
colored, dyed-in-the-wool cloth is made from wool that was already dyed 
before the yarn was made into fabric.


and I think my personal all-time favorite...

 

m = m sub Curtis over the square root of one minus (v sub Curtis over C) 
squared


please share your fav's!  the bonus is that it's a pretty fun hunt.

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[RBW] Yep Another Winter Sale post.

2014-02-20 Thread hsmitham

So here's what's on the block. The panniers I love but I'm going in a
different direction color wise. My bag matching/coordinating fetish is
your opportunity to pick up some of the very best panniers at a decent
price. The shoes well I've taken to heart Riv's velosophy and ride with
vans. So I know some of you out there still like to clip in. I'll also
include a pair of cleats with the commuter pair. I included a close up of
the typical wear for the point of attachment on the panniers. I have only
used them twice. More pictures upon request.

Panniers:
Arkel T28 yellow panniers pair $155 shipped.
Arkel GT18 yellow Paniers Pair $252 shipped

Bike shoes:
Shimano Commuter SH-CT 40M size EU 45, U.S. 10.5 lightly used no box no in
sole. $60 shipped
Shimano MTB SH-Mo88L Size EU 45, U.S. 10.5 also lightly used no box, no
insole $60 shipped

See images inserted. All items used so have appropriate wear. All sales
final.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-i8aMEPZY3AE/UwZuj1St6nI/AvE/Z5kXyxundAA/s1600/GT+%26T+panniers.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-MujV2UncgrY/UwZupGZTORI/AvM/17cyAXrbMhU/s1600/GT18+front.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/--4daKieazOY/UwZutD2xhiI/AvU/RjzDiHZ1bvw/s1600/GT18+rear.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Gk0vUxC8BEM/UwZuyJgPP6I/Avc/fC9_Gi62idE/s1600/GT18+sections.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ck98oxLWRPU/UwZu20wB7lI/Avk/8SsNmnGAB98/s1600/T28+CU.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-g4Ufp21xRPo/UwZu6DuI6UI/Avs/anH6klICemA/s1600/T28+front.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-MGGOqi5L0GE/UwZu93XNKxI/Av0/c4FQKL_O6M0/s1600/T28+rear.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-KkSQ0-CRUcM/UwZvFfLfhlI/Av8/4J-YdF4cBnI/s1600/Shimano+bike+shoes.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-zMcUcUj_XqQ/UwZvJZIoTkI/AwE/SRQO10slqRw/s1600/Commuter+bottom.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3wthTEG5RG8/UwZvNMTYA7I/AwM/8JsMdo5wq0s/s1600/MTB+bottom.jpg

Please contact off group. Thanks for looking.

~Hugh

[RBW] Re: Sugino XD600 shifting issue - jamming when downshifting

2014-02-20 Thread NickBull

You're not alone, Jim.

I've been running 9-speed with Sugino XD600, SRAM chains, and SRAM 
cassettes since around 2000.  This all worked fine together until I bought 
a new XD600 before PBP in 2007.  That XD600 and all of the ones I've bought 
since then have problems with chainsuck shifting from the outer ring to the 
middle ring.  I think they must have either changed the design, or there is 
wear in the molds that they're using.  As long as you remember to ease off 
as you make that downshift, it doesn't seem to be a problem.  

Nick

On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 1:07:23 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:

 I am having some problem with my chain jamming when I downshift from the 
 big ring to the middle ring on my Sugino XD600.  I have been observing 
 this, and it appears what is happening is the chain is wrapping completely 
 around the pin that is supposed to facilitate upshifting.

 Now, the XD600 is said to support 7/8 speed, and I am running a 9 speed 
 drivetrain, but from everything I've always read on here, it shoudn't pose 
 an issue.  Perhaps it is the chain I am using?  It's a SRAM PC971.  I was 
 thinking of trying a KMC or Shimano chain just to see if it eliminates the 
 problem.

 I really like this crankset otherwise, the 46/36/26 works really well for 
 the riding I do.  I just think the jamming is potentially hazardous.  For 
 now, I just really ease off the pressure when shifting chainrings, and then 
 if it does jam, it doesn't throw me for such a loop.

 Any advice?

 -- 
 Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! 


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[RBW] Re: Yet more travel coffee questions!

2014-02-20 Thread Evan

Deacon Patrick: Thanks for posting that pemmican recipe. Am intrigued and 
inspired.

Evan E.

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[RBW] Re: Yet more travel coffee questions!

2014-02-20 Thread Kevin Mulcahy

I'm not sure if you're asking how to keep milk cold in hotels or while bike 
touring? But you can use the evaporation method, like you've seen on old 
flannel wrapped canteens. After you soak the exterior, the evaporation of 
the liquid pulls the heat from the can, keeping the interior cool.

Otherwise, I've been useing the Mypressi - portable espresso maker with a 
Haro mini mill. The Mypressi uses NO2 canisters, and after a little 
practice, produces a wonderful shot, easily superior to most coffeeshops. 
It produces a shot with such generous creama, maybe you wont need to add 
frothed milk :)

Kevin
in Chicago

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[RBW] Re: Yet more travel coffee questions!

The easy (but not cheep or even as good (because it is not shelf stable) 
way:
http://www.grasslandbeef.com/Detail.bok?no=1199

They also have 2 oz bars.

With abandon,
Patrick


On Thursday, February 20, 2014 2:51:16 PM UTC-7, Evan wrote:

 Deacon Patrick: Thanks for posting that pemmican recipe. Am intrigued and 
 inspired.

 Evan E.


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[RBW] Re: Yet more travel coffee questions!

2014-02-20 Thread Roger

I keep a small carton of milk or half and half in the freezer to take with 
me on overnighters.
It thaws over time, certainly long enough to still have some ice the next 
morning, and would surely give it a longer life on longer trips.

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